From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 01:03:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4879F10656BA for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 01:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C0F8FC12 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 01:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so757104wwj.1 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L00h9IMy1GO9SiTamXRs63VGZHEL6NRhTzO5rY/mM58=; b=f7Qmc6Imjrsrlwogdn/LOmGv24cP0s2LmMtQyjqo762dkjga9bMw6hTDC+rlCcWFPl 4YcA6Fw7iAJzwhH+8gA80o2p1wfC3t/1dHh4o3jcqxO1i19RLkN3XhPqjDILt2PwRqZX LiRUhNv2wCXR0m8YYq/pkPRwbqUS5pZnHb04w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A3kWf0z9PsEIT9yrZYuAP9ZVj/edsVfZJNjFp4aCY4BhaElu0U/kp66GSypNgik0a4 i1d+dLIkZRwcF05oO+BlBvoK1wCYH/Cw0VXws3A0YszOusYJHA+gKOzpdc+FZp+dEDvh tY+w5/+etK3nYmoCciHAbcCPVR6CijiPhts2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.11.129 with SMTP id 1mr1734285wex.90.1283648575284; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.169.211 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 18:02:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 20:02:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 01:03:01 -0000 On 9/4/10, Chad Perrin wrote: > What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to be > able to find in ports? I went looking for pdf2html, expecting to find > that there, but no luck. Before I spend hours sifting through, still > without knowing whether I missed something that should be obvious, I > figured I'd ask here whether anyone knows of something off the top of > his/her head. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > Chad, There might be several out there, one that I know from the top of my head is OpenOffice.org, with the pdf import option then use export to pdf? Have not used it to do the task, but I believe it can do the job. An other option without ports is to use google(gmail) and use the option (View as HTML)? Hope this helps in some way. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 02:52:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE7710656B1 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 02:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E318FC15 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 02:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so3953007wyb.13 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:52:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kL03Z0u5+hQehHYQ7Eh6Bufx9gKPnrCN+HvVxhpbi8Q=; b=iPZCsK40Wj3O4MYj7jhNMtaSwRvnYDPL3lP4KHsuUW9Tw1wfgLzUdZuActiym4Lx4h RP8nJI7hkzQpl4TB9rpDaPWzYpA+r4UvWxN/TcibAMgnaPtnGph2KNSyNTnUDFtW3ZZ6 pbmr6Hlz4aA7IRLnoNdd6DF5/N7at/pL9l9XA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=laYfz0iMcla9+JV/3zbhRANhZy2rbUpktKyXZl8TE/tU3vEViCKjBXAoy1WvtGpooO wjorxvjXRR/DMikCQgxSjwQgQzLy91n+JSHbII2sG1iV67S6h60mH5kv6Dtr6KwGUrJU QWYMvwpNbtH5TfNZfnh35xpDZtkLTo33cF+aA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.47.80 with SMTP id s58mr2369031web.15.1283655154689; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.63.146 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 19:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 02:52:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Chad Perrin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:52:36 -0000 >What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to be >able to find in ports? I went looking for pdf2html, expecting to find >that there, but no luck. Off the top of my head: OpenOffice graphics/xpdf (via pdftotext -htmlmeta, simplistic) graphics/poppler-utils (pdftohtml) I'm guessing there are others, too. Or maybe, you could use Adobe's service. From: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/access_onlinetools.html "Adobe PDF Conversion by Email Attachment If the Adobe PDF file is on local media, such as a hard drive, CD-ROM, or internal server, it can be submitted as a MIME attachment to an e-mail message. All converted Adobe PDF documents will be sent back to the sender as MIME attachments. For plain text, mail the attached PDF to pdf2txt@adobe.com. For HTML, mail the attached PDF to pdf2html@adobe.com." b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 03:19:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD2610656B1 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 03:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF7E8FC15 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 03:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb18 with SMTP id 18so1370984wwb.31 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=OWRVJ2kKdl61XeVFoKhwKwfpwcO/64KQsd7J8vU6MuA=; b=oPAinyaUG/B+DNgqo5oDWZwsEycOPOh3CJZuLpFSszwlpWCm7OtAOEA4XiFbX2VeC7 ErlWNSy5EhlO0x609eDgiyA5YaHlVQZxByzGeUnq2Y1mf0AwrG8dIqqBTP7U5ujIyf5O DTl6Zo4sMk6yzRQUm2Y4wmbuHf/Sy7SWx+NtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=NW3vbk+yVoPYEOIkFHzbx819L/ZHjlOxAoMByHtD/ZrKAH/mmdH5hezBe45WJQNp5C Jn6abJhdWeYNez5+IESi5T7UjAHUNXwQwKxW/rnD38zq/eDDrSpxTfj2G1GySFCainL0 OqZeK1tyY5qYFGXMwSSizpfNSkbHqKGeo3Vfc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.188.211 with SMTP id a61mr1136509wen.15.1283656784286; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.63.146 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 03:19:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Chad Perrin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 03:19:46 -0000 On 9/5/10, b. f. wrote: >>What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to be >>able to find in ports? I went looking for pdf2html, expecting to find >>that there, but no luck. > > Off the top of my head: > > OpenOffice > graphics/xpdf (via pdftotext -htmlmeta, simplistic) > graphics/poppler-utils (pdftohtml) > I guess that you could also use converters/pdf2djvu + djvutoxml from graphics/djvulibre[-nox11]. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 04:04:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D631065679 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 04:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7118FC08 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 04:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1538556gxk.13 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:04:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RqFBtUIah4fbAufdEx3Ud34ScauwqcYmMTZRCJWPQ8w=; b=OAEz/QADaTl3a2Aq6rErKVLjqSTtLa7yFRxockzvP0qlyFQ/vbFcNaGKsIjLs7+E01 MGI15ai3lvNAnS/lvDOrBzxwL+5b2/7Gbgpgn7LYSF2+4Khe4iqjPniCqi8wKSDZ6gYV ZV73067CBCOU606yarZjdTnjSZDTC3Sda/W8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CZqMpSl+mbhPazhJpXQCZU2pjBuZkf7LV/gE/bxDiFFCukEtEN75YgQFT39Wfx65U2 TBp8ZX44MEJgGrsCIrYpJNgUGigLfLC2BRVdtwHRdyh2NrLPob3Ms+RkQr5ALAYgrpW0 5TaKY41zE/tnhfn9JQ6A6pKW5R5K0lAQRsEBs= Received: by 10.100.153.15 with SMTP id a15mr2025734ane.179.1283659465785; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([186.125.42.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f22sm6139055anh.24.2010.09.04.21.04.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8316C5.2060906@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 01:04:21 -0300 From: Gonzalo Nemmi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-AR; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD on Compaq mini CQ10 anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 04:04:27 -0000 I just got one and was wondering if anyone was running FreeBSD on it and how well does it work out of the box. All comments are welcome. Best Regards. Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 04:25:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085BA10656C8 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 04:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8408FC20 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 04:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o854P9w8085877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 21:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o854P9VS085875 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 Sep 2010 21:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA22698; Sat, 4 Sep 10 21:14:09 PDT Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:14:02 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: "gmirror load" broken in 8.1 memstick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 04:25:10 -0000 Fixit# gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad0s2a appeared to work properly. (I didn't write down the exact message, but it said something about the metadata having been written successfully.) However: Fixit# gmirror load gmirror: Command 'load' not available. and it did not create /dev/mirror/gm0 or even the /dev/mirror directory. How do I fix this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 06:09:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C623F1065696 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 06:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83388FC16 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 06:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Os8QI-0007v8-0y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:09:50 -0700 Message-ID: <29625711.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 23:09:50 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com Subject: Can i use tmpfs to mount /tmp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 06:09:50 -0000 >cat /etc/fstab=20 # Device=09=09Mountpoint=09FStype=09Options=09=09Dump=09Pass# /dev/ad4s3b=09=09none=09=09swap=09sw=09=090=090 /dev/ad4s3a=09=09/=09=09ufs=09rw,noatime=09=091=091 /dev/ad4s3e=09=09/tmp=09=09ufs=09rw=09=092=092 /dev/ad4s3f=09=09/usr=09=09ufs=09rw=09=092=092 /dev/ad4s3d=09=09/var=09=09ufs=09rw=09=092=092 /dev/acd0=09=09/cdrom=09=09cd9660=09ro,noauto=090=090 /dev/ad4s7=09=09/media/F=09msdosfs=09rw=09=090=090 /dev/ad4s8=09=09/media/G=09ext2fs=09rw=09=090=090 The /dev/ad4s3e is used for /tmp. Now i want to use tmpfs instead of ufs as below none /tmp tmpfs size=3D64M,nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 If i can, then how to reuse the space of /dev/ad4s3e ? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 06:57:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB64110656B5 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 06:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FB88FC19 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 06:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o856vBWE035913 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:57:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 77AC0BAA1; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:57:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 06:57:13 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 05:09:20PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to be > able to find in ports? I went looking for pdf2html, expecting to find > that there, but no luck. Before I spend hours sifting through, still > without knowing whether I missed something that should be obvious,=20 Yes, you did. :-) > I > figured I'd ask here whether anyone knows of something off the top of > his/her head. Try textproc/pdftohtml=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyDP0cACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXXcgCfQEG28o6wOGoo9YH9upONG8UW ARsAnjT7wDnpAwLazlTZmBIMoAJqRIu/ =xUAR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 07:54:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94A010656A5 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054B78FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o857s1Fb014018 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:54:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C834C86.7080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:53:42 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: troy@i2bnetworks.com References: <1cko7im.9c7bda5a0b3dad896e76c5f12d237fd7@webmail.dev.i2bnetworks.com> In-Reply-To: <1cko7im.9c7bda5a0b3dad896e76c5f12d237fd7@webmail.dev.i2bnetworks.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF4B22607C7AB3917A8D4D18E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD8.1 AMD64 UFS2 file system size issues. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 07:54:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF4B22607C7AB3917A8D4D18E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/2010 20:35:02, troy@i2bnetworks.com wrote: > I am having a problem with a fresh install onto a that is 9TB in > size. during the initial install, the syste the correct disk size > and partition sizes, but after it has complete d and rebooted it > shows the the large partition as only 1TB. I am using a 3w message, > it shows that On initial install, this is Total disk size: Sep > 4 12:17:51 fi (19531038720 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1215 1G > da0s1a /&nbs 4G da0s1b &nb 2G da0s1d 36G > da0s1e &n remainder da0s1f &nbs Upon completion of insta up as > this: Filesystem&nbs on /dev/da0s1a 1012974 2 devfs > /dev/da0s1f 1094909108 4 10 /dev/da0s1e&nb /dev/da0s1d > 2026030 &n It was my understanding that UFS2 supports drive s > what I am trying to use. Is there something that I am doing > Thanks, Weird. Something seems to have eaten chunks out of your message. I suspect a less than optimal conversion from HTML -- for best results write to FreeBSD lists in plain text. Anyhow, you've got a system with 9TB disk but your big partition gets truncated? It's not the limits in the UFS2 filesystem that are biting you: that can handle individual files of up to 32 PB (with the right options) and a total filesystem size of 1 YB. You may not be familiar with Y 'Yotta' as an SI prefix: it means 10^24. That's more than enough to boil the oceans should you attempt to create a filesystem of that size[*]. I suspect that you are running into limitations of the disk label. The original Dos-derived MBR that you can manipulate with fdisk(8) is based around 32bit quantities and has an inherent limitation to 2TB per partition. There are ways around this, not least by using the new gpart(8) disk partitioning. See: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html Personally, I'd start again from scratch and install using both gpart(8) and zfs(1M). Unfortunately sysinstall(8) can't handle doing that at the moment. You need to follow a different procedure described here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror (Or the equivalent pages for RAIDZ1 or RAIDZ2 if that's what you prefer) Although ZFS's maximum size is /only/ 1 EB (individual file or whole filesystem) it should still suffice. The compelling advantage with ZFS is the built-in checksumming of every data block. That's important for large data volumes where bitwise errors can become significant. Also, no need for fsck(8). Not even background fsck. Cheers, Matthew [*] Kids: don't try this at home. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF4B22607C7AB3917A8D4D18E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyDTJkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzb0ACeJkc5Sdt2lFwpmRqFCEoIEMe9 OO4An2TGMPUXoHAoz9mCclnQj9DEoYC5 =CpTe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF4B22607C7AB3917A8D4D18E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 08:14:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51A310656B3 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0468FC0C for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o858Da2g014209 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:13:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C835129.3000106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:13:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zaxis References: <29625711.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <29625711.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFF26CED7DDAC446C41FB3697" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can i use tmpfs to mount /tmp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:14:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFF26CED7DDAC446C41FB3697 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/09/2010 07:09:50, zaxis wrote: > The /dev/ad4s3e is used for /tmp. Now i want to use tmpfs instead of uf= s as > below > none /tmp tmpfs size=3D64M,nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 >=20 > If i can, then how to reuse the space of /dev/ad4s3e ? There are two choices. Either mount your ad4s3e partition somewhere else as a regular filesystem -- you can move the mount point simply by unmounting it, editing fstab and then mounting the new partition. Do that before mounting your new tmpfs based /tmp, or you'll block access to the whole filesystem on ad4s3e. Oh, and 'chmod 755 /new/mountpoint' after you move it -- you don't want the /tmp defaults of mode 1777 on a normal filesystem. Or amalgamate the ad4s3e partition with one of the partitions neighbouring it on the drive. Use bsdlabel(8) to examine and modify the disk-level layout. If you join ad4s3e on to the end of the preceeding partition, you can use growfs(8) to expand that partition into the extra space. Otherwise you'll have to newfs(8) the expanded partition and recover the contents from backup. Either way, this sort of partition wrangling operation involves low-level fiddling in the guts of the OS and an enhanced potential for things to go horribly wrong, so make sure you've got good backups and spend some time planning exactly what you are going to do, even down to the extent of writing out all the commands you'll need beforehand. Cheers, Matthew PS. 64MB is pretty small for a /tmp -- you might want to increase the size of your tmpfs. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFF26CED7DDAC446C41FB3697 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyDUTAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxbLwCbBpBoMf0NkwxiP+PCOdvkPEEy zhwAoI5TInIwyhjRnr/YitWExkqPovW+ =FODx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFF26CED7DDAC446C41FB3697-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 08:27:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FD710656D6 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7699D8FC1E for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o858RcTR014407 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:27:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:27:32 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF5422B6E9AF7C017B391B03B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "gmirror load" broken in 8.1 memstick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:27:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF5422B6E9AF7C017B391B03B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/09/2010 05:14:02, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Fixit# gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad0s2a >=20 > appeared to work properly. (I didn't write down the exact > message, but it said something about the metadata having > been written successfully.) However: >=20 > Fixit# gmirror load > gmirror: Command 'load' not available. >=20 > and it did not create /dev/mirror/gm0 or even the /dev/mirror > directory. >=20 > How do I fix this? If you've been able to run 'gmirror label' then geom_mirror.ko is almost certainly already loaded into your kernel, making 'gmirror load' superfluous. Check using kldstat(8). The actual problem is getting /dev to update itself and show gmirror related filesystems. First of all, is /dev a mounted devfs filesystem? If it is, does playing with devfs(8) yield any enlightenment? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF5422B6E9AF7C017B391B03B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyDVHoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyWEACfapTc9Mtfu4suj3/fjKAgxAYc svoAn16lDYsnTJuQwlHbJdjSkiT/vsxP =sUoW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF5422B6E9AF7C017B391B03B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 08:32:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCACA1065670 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878E8FC1B for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-61-120.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.61.120]:38402 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1OsAdu-0000hH-9Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:32:04 +0200 Received: (qmail 83678 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2010 10:31:54 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 5 Sep 2010 10:31:54 +0200 Received: (qmail 89714 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Sep 2010 10:31:54 +0200 Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:31:54 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.61.120 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1OsAdu-0000hH-9Z. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1OsAdu-0000hH-9Z ce8bfb137d7462dfa28813159b403452 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:32:23 -0000 On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 08:57:11AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 05:09:20PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to be > > able to find in ports? I went looking for pdf2html, expecting to find > > that there, but no luck. Before I spend hours sifting through, still > > without knowing whether I missed something that should be obvious, > > Yes, you did. :-) > > > I > > figured I'd ask here whether anyone knows of something off the top of > > his/her head. > > Try textproc/pdftohtml Uhm, he said "other than pdftohtml" so I suspect he already knew about that one. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 11:30:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E33B10656C6 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.dave.jones@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051C58FC18 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so2911428vws.13 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 04:30:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BS+X+ZIK+RuTYZD72ID7pdGYlm1oirhWzh0mQL8CQuM=; b=NC4/m/znSUkNaoGfrdEk6AgJ3/Mo8V3FOo3GkNmojEuW0HCgA7oaL9I9iEHovUqUgA aOBa+mXNAdsL9VLoWnI2aD63JMoC4qoB0zWdV9+txfNpNjNsz5xx6shUe4PEXDgCX/D0 V5fsfFuP+3GqFD0wV79CCnyDOlV7yPNLSaO8U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QuuKnYhiC38Gn2RnLAZ8Mr6eyt4xfjBQZvHoQZ5WMFsaLlyXx3+9vXMu5s96JMIB5B 0EAdHRqNBGmiBN5h1Jw0awkncZxsEuh/+6oXbJ647f2n0MnkMoTxIDNSFRHRVhm5yP81 LHOX7v0d9RZ5IpK454i7vnh2rL9cGh84ZYrNo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.169.14 with SMTP id w14mr775041vcy.17.1283684691219; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 04:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.79.69 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 04:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:04:51 +0800 Message-ID: From: dave jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: ACPI questions about press power button X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:30:50 -0000 Hello, I'm running FreeBSD 8 on my desktop. I want to write a file or do something when I or someone presses power button. In devd.conf, I added the following lines for testing: notify 10 { match "system" "ACPI"; match "subsystem" "Button"; matcho "notify" "0x00" action "echo hello world"; }; But it doesn't work. Would anyone tell me how to do? Thanks. Regards, Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 13:18:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3128D1065698 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tg@gmplib.org) Received: from shell.gmplib.org (gmplib-02.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAACE8FC15 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by shell.gmplib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5CBCB6027; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:01:22 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Torbjorn Granlund Sender: tg@gmplib.org Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:01:22 +0200 Message-ID: <86d3ssl4yl.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Failure to use Adaptec 2405 with FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:18:03 -0000 I am trying to get an Adaptec 2405 to work in *any* mode with FreeBSD 8.1. I have installed FreeBSD hundreds of times, usually quiet successfully. I have just one disk, a Seagate Savvio 15k 146 GB SAS. (The reason I use a RAID controller is that it appears that FreeBSD does not support any plain SAS controllers.) I have tried configuring the controller for JBOD, and many types of RAID modes. In all tried RAID modes, FreeBSD's installation program allows me to put FreeBSD on the disk. When I reboot, the system hang or crashes during initial kernel load. (Whether it hangs or crashes seem to depend on the size of created partitions, and other such magic.) I then boot things in "fixit" mode. I can then newfs any partition without problems. I can also mount any newly newfs'ed partition except the first one on the disk. You read it right, newfs succeeds but then the partition cannot be mounted. That strange behaviour seems reproducible with any sort of array configuration. Finally, I gave up array configs. After all, I have just one disk, so any array is somewhat degenerate. And even if I could get it to appear to work, I wouldn't want to put my files on a disk subsystem that seems very buggy. In JBOD mode, FreeBSD's installation program does not allow installation to the disk. (As a sanity check of the hardware and firmware, I tried installing Debian GNU/Linux, and it works. Using Debian is not an option, I need FreeBSD.) I again start fixit mode to check dmesg. And the disk is really there! It shows up as a "Fixed Uninstalled SCSI 5" disk. The /dev/aac* devices are in place. I am stuck at this point. I have tried google for help. I have read some FreeBSD kernel sources. I have no idea why FreeBSD rejects installation to the disk, and what FreeBSD means with that the disk is "Uninstalled". System summary: Controller: Adaptec 2405 RAID SAS PCIe Disk: Seagate Savvio 15k 146 GB SAS Motherboard: ASUS M2V-MX AM2 MicroATX PCIe FreeBSD ver: 8.1 Questions: * Can Adaptec 2405 actually be used as a boot device with FreeBSD? * Is the firmware and/or FreeBSD drives for 2405 in such a shape that it can be trusted for a critical system? Are my problems due to bugs, or am I trying something that is not (yet) supported. * If Adaptec 2405 is not good with FreeBSD, what controller should I purchase instead, to allow me to use the new disk? (I do not care about RAID.) --=20 Torbj=F6rn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 15:09:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D421065695 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eduardr@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com [208.72.237.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02B48FC0C for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37712C5294 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 10:51:38 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; s=sasl; bh=o6YGPshPa60RqR8VkVq8AAfbN3M=; b=hyP +FVNQfDz/B/WY8ePSN0yCtVsX3fL+8GJhLD9qI+Mf8hVA/9YIzvOB/z2T4KKBD7m 2iJCEXUjXkK1GqlaAYaAJpuQTrr1psKxqzSeDqVJwSaS39q/oz0ZJqY8zycJJY+4 CMDXoB9Dl+KG5EYVO2pLyr/JmAK3T5age8YtfZk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; q=dns; s=sasl; b=NhfJccTXXkFtw+cQD/Fnl0+yzwC+T /GGR46kRpUxQ0RAcWm3Gf+HYb4veV6tpUWHuu/dxSjQthUYccszJKEgL94A4Uqfi tePpk/Csx20rMXN6Ry4gcU1SKBYXfJh+1sUl5t7n3PxmAVTxUEouSYD0bSWPMHMB AS4Jm8RgsjZfoc= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:09:33 -0000 Hi, I've checked the latest 8.1R hardware compatibility and don't see the = Intel 82580 ethernet chipset being supported. This is Intel's latest = ethernet chipset, released beginning of 2010 I think. Is there support = planned for this? Thanks! --Ed= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 15:18:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E91E10656A5 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175848FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1767728qyk.13 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:18:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.18.22 with SMTP id u22mr213813qaa.18.1283699894209; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.95.145 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:18:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.52.188] In-Reply-To: <20100901124948.B2607ECAA6@mf3.socket.net> References: <20100901124948.B2607ECAA6@mf3.socket.net> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 17:18:14 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: jhall@socket.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GnuPG not allowing passphrase entry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:18:15 -0000 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:49 PM, wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I an attempting to decrypt a file using the following command line. > > /usr/local/bin/gpg --output /usr/local/scripts/test. --no-default-keyring > --secret-keyring 09-2010.sec --keyring 09-2010.pub --always-trust > --decrypt --recipient Wed_Sep_1_00_01_00_CDT_2010@abc.org > /usr/local/scripts/test.gpg > > When doing so, I receive the following output. > > You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for > user: "Wed_Sep_1_00_01_00_CDT_2010 (Monthly Archive Encryption Key) > " > 1024-bit ELG key, ID E8E5F849, created 2010-09-01 (main key ID 557E7C04) > > gpg: cancelled by user > gpg: encrypted with 1024-bit ELG key, ID E8E5F849, created 2010-09-01 > =A0 =A0 =A0"Wed_Sep_1_00_01_00_CDT_2010 (Monthly Archive Encryption Key) > " > gpg: public key decryption failed: General error > gpg: decryption failed: No secret key > > While the prompt to enter a passphrase does appear, it is skipped without > allowing me to enter anything. > > gpg-agent is running. =A0I am running FreeBSD 8.0. My GnuPG version is > 2.0.14 gpg-agent (and pinentry-*) causes all sorts of trouble. Are you sure all environment variables are pointing to it when you run gpg (notably GPG_AGENT_INFO and GPG_TTY)? What about the permissions of the sockets? > I have also tried adding the public and secret keys to the default keyrin= g > and receive the same result. > > Thanks for your help. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 15:49:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E90E10656CC for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7748FC0C for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 15:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2010 11:49:07 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AOR67889; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:48:58 -0400 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2010 11:48:57 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19587.48102.141028.637665@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 11:48:54 -0400 To: Eduard Rozenberg In-Reply-To: <903DE6F0-5BA9-4EF7-9A28-37AFC6ED8A05@pobox.com> References: <903DE6F0-5BA9-4EF7-9A28-37AFC6ED8A05@pobox.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is support planned for Intel NIC I340-T4 (82580 ethernet chipset) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:49:08 -0000 Eduard Rozenberg writes: > I've checked the latest 8.1R hardware compatibility and don't see > the Intel 82580 ethernet chipset being supported. This is Intel's > latest ethernet chipset, released beginning of 2010 I think. Is > there support planned for this? The person to ask would be Jack Vogel, who has posted to various FreeBSD lists before. Intel pays Jack to (among other things) write our drivers, at which he does a very good job. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 16:03:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1001065670 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6DC8FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7B01E5F7; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:03:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o85G3XVn001705; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:03:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:03:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: zaxis Message-Id: <20100905180333.fc7336c3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <29625711.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <29625711.post@talk.nabble.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can i use tmpfs to mount /tmp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:03:37 -0000 Allow me a short comment regarding your /etc/fstab, not related to your intial question. You have the following entries: On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 23:09:50 -0700 (PDT), zaxis wrote: > /dev/ad4s7 /media/F msdosfs rw 0 0 > /dev/ad4s8 /media/G ext2fs rw 0 0 It looks like you are using the directories F and G in /media to mount other slices of your hard disk ("primary partitions") corresponding to specific "drive letters". According to "man hier", the /media subtree is not intended for that purpose. Let me quote: /media/ contains subdirectories to be used as mount points for remov- able media such as CDs, USB drives, and floppy disks This directory is often used by automounting solutions such as they appear in KDE, Gnome or Xfce. Now, where else would one instead mount them? In /mnt maybe? /mnt/ empty directory commonly used by system administrators as a temporary mount point No, doesn't seem to look right. As I didn't have any need to mount FAT/NTFS partitions in my whole life, I couldn't even suggest some directory where to mount it that does not interfere with the well-designed and intended concepts of the FreeBSD file system hierarchy. I had other kinds of partitions and disks (UFS usually) mounted under /export, but just because they were then exported via NFS right away, so the use of /export/F and /export/G would look strange, too (but possible, as FreeBSD does not have /export per se - it's a Solarism, if I remember correctly). The same way, you could create any arbitrary name (/winparts, /dos, /ntmounts or anything else) to not interfere with the expected use of /media. Maybe some "file system guru" cares to join my little sideshow and explain how it is done correctly? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 16:33:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD5110656DB for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 721AD8FC0C for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24825 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2010 09:28:44 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 24820, pid: 24821, t: 0.2829s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp1.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=13.5 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: _CMAETAG_ Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by smtp1 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2010 09:28:43 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17D23165BCA; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1283704416; bh=OBOVGeaM3LM+1Oxwrho3jSuMNa1xyvIv46QF+dXg184=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=icQemvEExrnOigUPwAoxmSRlruvzZm+39h5Bd9t9ZmSYWri9J2CFUKPa4u3zIV1CM RrXLfu/hldX89bHM8N7oPCKE4ZfidkZBi624dFOCySsmap+UTTkz7dZjEZQjLs3sUj DUot2wFUWwp3WQxhywsamIAeNTK9/h0edMI3QBWQ= Message-ID: <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:33:31 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C814262.5060504@mykitchentable.net> <4C814634.1000003@gmail.com> <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100905-0, 09/05/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:33:38 -0000 On 9/3/2010 2:12 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Hi Glen, > > Thank you for your reply. > > On 9/3/2010 12:02 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> Hi Drew, >> >> On 9/3/10 2:45 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: >>> I use procmail for mail delivery and I'm trying to concoct the right >>> regex to match From: headers and deliver to a folder. However mail is >>> sent from various addresses so I want to match all that end with >>> "famous-smoke.com>". Here's an example of a header: >>> >>> From: "Famous Smoke Shop" >>> >>> Because I also occasionally order, I don't want to catch mail from >>> anything that has the word "Orders" and "Famous" in the From field. >>> Thus here is my procmail recipe: >>> >>> # Deliver order info to inbox >>> :0 >>> *^From:.[Ff]amous.*[Oo]rder.*famous-smoke.com>$ >>> "${HOME}/Maildir/new/" >>> >> Is this supposed to be "match Famous OR Order"? This currently matches >> "Famous AND Order". > > No, I want "Famous AND Order". > >>> # Deliver other email to folder >>> :0 >>> *^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$ >>> "${HOME}/Maildir/.Shopping/Famous Smoke/Email/" >> Going by your examples, you want to catch "Famous OR Order" and place >> that in Maildir/new, and all other email from this address to go to >> Maildir/.Shopping/... >> >> Try this: >> >> # catch "famous" or "order" >> :0 >> * ^From:.*([Ff]amous|[Oo]rder).*famous-smoke.com>$ >> "$HOME/Maildir/new" >> >> # catch everything else from this sender >> :0 >> * ^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$ >> "$HOME/Maildir/.Shopping/Famous Smoke/Email/" >>> According to my procmail log, the From: header does not match. I would >>> expect the example From: header above to match the second regex and be >>> delivered to the specified folder. Where is my error? >> If my assumption above is incorrect, could you paste a snippet from your >> procmail log and point out what should be matching so we can have a >> specific example? > > This is the actual log entry from the example I used in this email: > > From Announce@email.famous-smoke.com Fri Sep 3 10:11:08 2010 > Subject: Another Must-Attend Event at Famous! > Folder: /home//Maildir/new/1283533874.95147_0.blacklamb. > 8161 > procmail: [95164] Fri Sep 3 10:13:05 2010 > procmail: Assigning "NL= > " > procmail: Assigning "LOG= > /home//Procmail/famous_smoke.rc" > > /home//Procmail/famous_smoke.rc > procmail: No match on "^From:.[Ff]amous.*[Oo]rder.*famous-smoke.com>$" > procmail: No match on "^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$" > procmail: Assigning "VERBOSE=OFF" > > > I think my problem is that I was missing a "space" between "*" and > "^From:". Your example shows a space and a reply from Brent Bloxam > suggests this is the problem as well. I don't quite understand the > difference between the two but have made the change and I'll see if it > works. I'm also going to hit Google and see if I can understand. No, still not matching. Basically, why doesn't this header: From: "Famous Smoke Shop" Match this procmail recipe: :0 * ^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$ "${HOME}/Maildir/.Shopping/Famous Smoke/Email/" From my procmail log: procmail: No match on "^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$" Thanks, Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 19:45:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FA710656A8 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3C18FC0C for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28615 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2010 19:45:23 -0000 Received: from g1.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.42]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Sep 2010 19:45:22 -0000 Message-ID: <4C83F352.1030400@speakeasy.net> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:45:22 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ASN.1 encoding ended unexpectedly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:45:25 -0000 I've upgraded to FreeBSD 8.1-R from 7.1-R. I propogated my database to my new KDC. After doing so I've deleted and recreated most of my principals to take advantage of AES. I also deleted and re-extracted keytabs on the hosts. I can acquire a TGT. When I attempt to telnet to a host, I receive this error: [ Kerberos V5 refuses authentication because Read req failed: ASN.1 encoding ended unexpectedly ] Any ideas where to start? Thanks, Jason C. Wells From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 19:49:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C792F10656DB for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (odyssey.prod.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57B68FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.128.230.77] (166-205-136-060.mobile.mymmode.com [166.205.136.60] (may be forged)) by i2bnetworks.com (8.14.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id o85JnhCC033863; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:49:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) References: <1cko7im.9c7bda5a0b3dad896e76c5f12d237fd7@webmail.dev.i2bnetworks.com> <4C834C86.7080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C834C86.7080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A293) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <02F7F25C-BF21-4B48-A3D9-809103E86D59@i2bnetworks.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A293) From: Troy Beisigl Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 12:48:41 -0700 To: Matthew Seaman X-SpacelinkPC: LL X-Spam-Status: country=** X-Spam-Report: * -100 LR_XSPACELINKPC Indicated local origination * 0.7 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) * [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom; id=troy%40i2bnetworks.com; ip=10.128.230.77; r=nospam.i2bnetworks.com] * -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 1.4 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars * -1.2 SNF4SA Message Sniffer * 0.0 LR_SPF_FAIL SPF Fails * 1.0 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on nospam.i2bnetworks.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD8.1 AMD64 UFS2 file system size issues. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:49:51 -0000 Thanks Matthew. I had to do a manual install using gpart in the fixit live c= d to partition the filesystem. Everything looks to be running great.=20 -Troy Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/09/2010 20:35:02, troy@i2bnetworks.com wrote: >=20 >> I am having a problem with a fresh install onto a that is 9TB in >> size. during the initial install, the syste the correct disk size >> and partition sizes, but after it has complete d and rebooted it >> shows the the large partition as only 1TB. I am using a 3w message, >> it shows that On initial install, this is Total disk size: Sep >> 4 12:17:51 fi (19531038720 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1215 1G >> da0s1a /&nbs 4G da0s1b &nb 2G da0s1d 36G >> da0s1e &n remainder da0s1f &nbs Upon completion of insta up as >> this: Filesystem&nbs on /dev/da0s1a 1012974 2 devfs >> /dev/da0s1f 1094909108 4 10 /dev/da0s1e&nb /dev/da0s1d >> 2026030 &n It was my understanding that UFS2 supports drive s >> what I am trying to use. Is there something that I am doing >> Thanks, >=20 > Weird. Something seems to have eaten chunks out of your message. I > suspect a less than optimal conversion from HTML -- for best results > write to FreeBSD lists in plain text. >=20 > Anyhow, you've got a system with 9TB disk but your big partition gets > truncated? >=20 > It's not the limits in the UFS2 filesystem that are biting you: that can > handle individual files of up to 32 PB (with the right options) and a > total filesystem size of 1 YB. You may not be familiar with Y 'Yotta' > as an SI prefix: it means 10^24. That's more than enough to boil the > oceans should you attempt to create a filesystem of that size[*]. >=20 > I suspect that you are running into limitations of the disk label. The > original Dos-derived MBR that you can manipulate with fdisk(8) is based > around 32bit quantities and has an inherent limitation to 2TB per > partition. There are ways around this, not least by using the new > gpart(8) disk partitioning. See: > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html >=20 > Personally, I'd start again from scratch and install using both gpart(8) > and zfs(1M). Unfortunately sysinstall(8) can't handle doing that at the > moment. You need to follow a different procedure described here: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror (Or the equivalent > pages for RAIDZ1 or RAIDZ2 if that's what you prefer) >=20 > Although ZFS's maximum size is /only/ 1 EB (individual file or whole > filesystem) it should still suffice. The compelling advantage with ZFS > is the built-in checksumming of every data block. That's important for > large data volumes where bitwise errors can become significant. Also, > no need for fsck(8). Not even background fsck. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 > [*] Kids: don't try this at home. >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 20:53:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FBE10656E1 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nekoexmachina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A991D8FC18 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so3171012vws.13 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=E8xcJfm9h3xA5IJlxv3V4RqJEux5FypzpER1H6fs5Oo=; b=PXlpbQDr6UPqqsLOv9imSb7ObG+aP32nceVCFvDEyZVBvhcUINZ1ls4WcQBceVlNFl YcSfBgTTKNEfksSX8yuwMTTmiJVmzOedletNNT/HTJx0oroxqKwxLTaqxDxGPbU52Aon QaxliUC7KAcqMuJ2G9jPEMSMFVhncqbJqZaWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=MjnuffiluIUsWNGTpdeYGWAouKATF0QKtLqxNfgjACjt8t43KKiuvM6sanKqx0PXdI X55WxVu8FyZyac9uVFtqJ0Ss6jOHS2M/0nYbBHF6ii56GuoXClwEDw6DF9iB3puviD/E sXo7IGt8j/eKwPYqVsJrsq5zk30kZ88idfT3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.129.13 with SMTP id m13mr1615795vcs.132.1283719998739; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.195 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <61270570@bb.ipt.ru> References: <61270570@bb.ipt.ru> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:53:18 +0000 Message-ID: From: Mikle Krutov To: Boris Samorodov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux emu: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:53:20 -0000 Hello, Boris! Thank you for your respond, and sorry for my long-time no-respond. It worked okay (now binaries run), but new problem here: ptrace attach: Operation not permitted What should i do to fix it? -- with best regards, Krutov Mikle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 20:59:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DF11065675 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEB38FC0A for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o85KxAV5019377; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:59:11 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o85KxAon019373; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:59:10 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 37D8533C3D; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:59:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:59:10 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Drew Tomlinson Message-ID: <20100905205910.GA82375@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4C814262.5060504@mykitchentable.net> <4C814634.1000003@gmail.com> <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:59:14 -0000 On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:33:31AM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > [snip] > > No, still not matching. Basically, why doesn't this header: > > From: "Famous Smoke Shop" > > Match this procmail recipe: > > :0 > * ^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$ > "${HOME}/Maildir/.Shopping/Famous Smoke/Email/" > > From my procmail log: > > procmail: No match on "^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$" > > Thanks, > > Drew Drew, try this: * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com I think it's not catching it because the period isn't backslash escaped. Also don't bother catching the end of line as any whitespace there will screw up your re. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 5 21:32:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B6810656CC for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153658FC2D for ; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so3713122qwg.13 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:32:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3EIFhIatdwYZu66+Jqi71xJaTptCACNLFC/EFYmU3rQ=; b=ksSCFu5q7e6HoL7EsitYR4EMhUkdUS4u7BeX0nKl20/u5z/gmL02OHHK+apr5HKgp6 0EvTYM9n+rnvQU4NIMhPv4VdgSUhiEx8R8ZGwD5EbB8TOJqFvg6CDkDmLxk2HPTKSXzX t2AoGeNeIdzMDEA88kZhItZB27nv4qIVJae/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YJWu2I5HKelZzGDWVk+JJIVK8r976Eo1tr6A0WG4ZcsZVbPJhEk0XcGFKU5F3g/1qX Bl/y9y2XOnCY1j9/zj7LvQS4UHWgqWyfRl79/pvUI3hRn9i6cQHUeztWZuonEJFZGS9B o12PZ6MgljlgwyNJ/krVYByooHer0cW3iVOmQ= Received: by 10.224.67.81 with SMTP id q17mr96150qai.120.1283722333278; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (75.97.128.170.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net [75.97.128.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r36sm4816674qcs.15.2010.09.05.14.32.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C840C59.6050704@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:32:09 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <4C814262.5060504@mykitchentable.net> <4C814634.1000003@gmail.com> <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:32:16 -0000 On 9/5/10 12:33 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > No, still not matching. Basically, why doesn't this header: > > From: "Famous Smoke Shop" > > Match this procmail recipe: > > :0 > * ^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$ Hmm.. I just noticed this - I don't think you need the trailing bracket (>). What about this: * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com$ Note that I also escaped the period before 'com'. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 00:17:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF5310656E0 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEA48FC12 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OsPOj-0003w2-FU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:17:21 -0700 Message-ID: <29627883.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 17:17:21 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4C835129.3000106@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com References: <29625711.post@talk.nabble.com> <4C835129.3000106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: Can i use tmpfs to mount /tmp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:17:22 -0000 thanks for your suggestion! >df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s3a 496M 119M 337M 26% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad4s3e 496M 18M 438M 4% /tmp /dev/ad4s3f 14G 4.8G 8.4G 37% /usr /dev/ad4s3d 1.4G 178M 1.1G 14% /var /dev/ad4s7 30G 3.6G 26G 12% /media/F /dev/ad4s8 30G 4.1G 24G 15% /media/G The /dev/ad4s3e is just 496M. so it is not worth for me to modify the disk-level layout. Matthew Seaman-2 wrote: >=20 > On 05/09/2010 07:09:50, zaxis wrote: >> The /dev/ad4s3e is used for /tmp. Now i want to use tmpfs instead of ufs >> as >> below >> none /tmp tmpfs size=3D64M,nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 >>=20 >> If i can, then how to reuse the space of /dev/ad4s3e ? >=20 > There are two choices. >=20 > Either mount your ad4s3e partition somewhere else as a regular > filesystem -- you can move the mount point simply by unmounting it, > editing fstab and then mounting the new partition. Do that before > mounting your new tmpfs based /tmp, or you'll block access to the whole > filesystem on ad4s3e. Oh, and 'chmod 755 /new/mountpoint' after you > move it -- you don't want the /tmp defaults of mode 1777 on a normal > filesystem. >=20 > Or amalgamate the ad4s3e partition with one of the partitions > neighbouring it on the drive. Use bsdlabel(8) to examine and modify the > disk-level layout. If you join ad4s3e on to the end of the preceeding > partition, you can use growfs(8) to expand that partition into the extra > space. Otherwise you'll have to newfs(8) the expanded partition and > recover the contents from backup. Either way, this sort of partition > wrangling operation involves low-level fiddling in the guts of the OS > and an enhanced potential for things to go horribly wrong, so make sure > you've got good backups and spend some time planning exactly what you > are going to do, even down to the extent of writing out all the commands > you'll need beforehand. >=20 > =09Cheers, >=20 > =09Matthew >=20 > PS. 64MB is pretty small for a /tmp -- you might want to increase the > size of your tmpfs. >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Can-i-use-tmpfs-to-moun= t--tmp---tp29625711p29627883.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 03:37:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BC210656BB for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 03:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D788FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 03:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o863bYOI046781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o863bXBB046778; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA25699; Sun, 5 Sep 10 16:02:07 PDT Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:02:07 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: frank@shute.org.uk Message-Id: <4c84216f.w2295Zjs25+GOe/F%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4C814262.5060504@mykitchentable.net> <4C814634.1000003@gmail.com> <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> <20100905205910.GA82375@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100905205910.GA82375@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: drew@mykitchentable.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:37:36 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > Drew, try this: > > * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com > > I think it's not catching it because the period isn't backslash > escaped ... Unless there's some edge case that I'm not thinking of, adding a backslash to escape a period will never convert a non-match into a match. An unescaped period in an RE matches any character, including a period. An escaped period matches only a period. Adding the backslash _does_ better represent what the OP wants to accomplish, but the lack of it is not the cause of the RE not matching. (I'm not sufficiently familiar with how procmail uses REs to figure out what _is_ causing it not to match.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 05:49:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBA210656DE for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 05:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpagnoni@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84768FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 05:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so4481119iwn.13 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wqR30XT/j1s98Yv5M5QzWHlGFgK+BC3nrWS0Iv9TQGs=; b=EEX4SoJU45hHXNlwiOlGXA2KeRVinx2pmzUTGuWflNybIapqHTV5Z9h85IdU3Tgyf/ gRr8LxpZmZaO+R3zmH9G5GcXwnredFbqS9XiDVm7MRL3/1Anai3rpe4YVHOLIKpABn5a 2qM5gOr12CS5q+zTYV8EF6pr5yAJNgmNHu6rk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RZfat1IAQFc/crWL2pfDhV+GUv1SCBZ9SHeYubhuM99pTuxACJnvhlNlFcx2ugQbQ7 hQB2Wu7b0N5MjumW9i8YLiS/0tEYGJt5Se8kaCyQljF028v4LmmYRGHizJWNHUOa7pCS RpJRFkVM8TVqUAM3atoX1waxqhjDqYIFsE3Eo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.14.140 with SMTP id g12mr5132283iba.84.1283750363212; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.34.69 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 07:19:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: Giuseppe Pagnoni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: pyglet font load segmentation fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:49:27 -0000 Dear all, I posted about this problem a few months ago and have been scouring the web ever since but I cannot find the slightest hint at a solution. Actually, it seems that nobody else has reported a similar problem, which I find really weird since the function is such a basic one in pyglet -- quoting Zoolander, "I feel like I am taking crazy pills!" The problem is that I cannot use the pyglet.font.load() function at all without causing a segmentation fault: python import pyglet arial = pyglet.font.load('Arial') Segmentation fault My system is running FreeBSD 8.1/amd64 with an Nvidia GeForce 9500GT and the latest driver from Nvidia (256.53), and with all the ports up-to-date as of today. python26-2.6.5_1 was compiled with standard options: WITH_THREADS=true WITHOUT_HUGE_STACK_SIZE=true WITHOUT_SEM=true WITHOUT_PTH=true WITH_UCS4=true WITH_PYMALLOC=true WITH_IPV6=true WITHOUT_FPECTL=true Any help would be tremendously appreciated, thanks in advance giuseppe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 06:13:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3E110656BD for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DDF8FC1D for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o866DKEm057901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 5 Sep 2010 23:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o866DJS1057900; Sun, 5 Sep 2010 23:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26533; Sun, 5 Sep 10 23:07:36 PDT Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:18:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk Message-Id: <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "gmirror load" broken in 8.1 memstick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:13:21 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > If you've been able to run 'gmirror label' then geom_mirror.ko is > almost certainly already loaded into your kernel, making 'gmirror > load' superfluous. Check using kldstat(8). Fixit# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 1 0xc0400000 bb5504 kernel It looks as if writing the metadata doesn't require geom_mirror.ko to be loaded -- which makes a certain amount of sense since the module, even if loaded, presumably shouldn't do anything to a partition that doesn't already have metadata in its last sector. The good news is that, now having an idea what to look for, I checked for geom_mirror.ko in /boot/kernel and found -- surprise! -- the /boot/kernel directory doesn't even exist in the Fixit FS (when booted from the USB stick, dunno about the CD or DVD) and this is apparently the cause of "gmirror load" reporting "Command 'load' not available." The fix is: Fixit# ln -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot after which "gmirror load" works, creating /dev/mirror/gm0{,a,b}. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 06:42:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B41F1065695 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4618FC1B for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1OsVPf-000PwX-RR; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:42:43 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: Mikle Krutov References: <61270570@bb.ipt.ru> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:42:43 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Mikle Krutov's message of "Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:53:18 +0000") Message-ID: <61230764@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux emu: ELF file OS ABI invalid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:42:46 -0000 On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:53:18 +0000 Mikle Krutov wrote: > Thank you for your respond, and sorry for my > long-time no-respond. It worked okay (now > binaries run), but new problem here: > ptrace attach: Operation not permitted > What should i do to fix it? Can't help you here. But at least you may change the subject (or post a new thread). Current subject is misleading now. And freebsd-emulation@ may be a more apropriate list. BTW, there may be some console (or /var/log/messages) messages which give some additional info. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 07:42:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B382310656AC for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 07:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com) Received: from n3-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (n3-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.23.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80B1B8FC0A for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 07:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [67.195.9.82] by n3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2010 07:28:19 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.97] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2010 07:28:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2010 07:28:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 530796.18664.bm@omp101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41119 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2010 07:28:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1283758099; bh=gg+3FaKVyU4AVNCTkk7qJAlr4b6hSxgZED3YKAxw4hk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PtmAemsxykQOoxocVsmj0n1UYS3XBD6dFgbHwUZ1xVDrumAcg3p893SuPIx1KZtTK9t8aH9cSM7zeX+BTruZK2EknqPVsT4lJl4qRLyqQJ9Ci8XNBZL9vC7UqUjNdkHmv6CpeelgOI86dxaxp+pTE906EimpalKi46oTu90oZ3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z9EU3H/0lF9qRfgI/SMuAxJBDrUcxyezVlqrS7Goc3j3GVJHcM4sWPi3RBW/91r70K5ezwT9ccOnyhlt6uFvHAvrwY9NnFJ6UmJRblGMUby96MXcjGAQGQZm7z9sGdFOmO680ylx6VoUR8TnsnOhEEjyfenlLbdjG4pqs2s9Xy0=; Message-ID: <291410.40127.qm@web113906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sD0tOKEVM1nxS3CCwPt34qOA7222mJs4AQQ.acgTwn6lITh 6smNqxSpJfcmW6dx91xwHRAiSFKAgLqTWZRcFDLkrPuFnwZl4byDCM2VKW0B y91v37MQ3fqVjMbjtottz7vhIJ.NYzp.SS_j9AWwU61EJRHMeMCv2HnBZcjD v.h.W47G5dhVlE5qe4tCo1ZjqFqIpugNNNB0WywH_v1EL6nEDJHx438n84ec Xfp2Vp_Lb2l9zWlBluBGPDNwfzMdK7e70pgwgbfvkHRpN2qF30HpMzjabF7w wg6PRH0iJfH_4jLy7G4v_e8O7nqRIrwr3CJC.Xeo5KfqWBL1N2ZLlqck- Received: from [116.197.178.83] by web113906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:28:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:42:04 -0000 Hi Everybody Greetings! I am new to the mailing list and working newly on the FreeBSD platform. I have some query regarding the kernel dump which i am trying to decode. #0 doadump (di=0xc0baca40, live_dump=0) at ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:444 #1 0xc0593b32 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:531 #2 0xc0593fe3 in panic (fmt=0xc0af61cc "%s: nhindex %u could not be allocated\n") at ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:897 I need help in understanding what is function doadump? what role it plays in FreeBSD. And what do i interpret from the output above. Any link which could help understand more on this and how decode kernel dumps should be useful. Thanks Regards Abhijeet.C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 08:03:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D1C1065693 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2E18FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (94.193.93.212) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.124.10) id 4C65536000A3DF2D; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:49:19 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:49:13 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com Message-ID: <20100906084913.0000120f@unknown> In-Reply-To: <291410.40127.qm@web113906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <291410.40127.qm@web113906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:03:33 -0000 On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi Everybody > > Greetings! > > I am new to the mailing list and working newly on the FreeBSD > platform. I have some query regarding the kernel dump which i am > trying to decode. > > #0 doadump (di=0xc0baca40, live_dump=0) at > ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:444 > #1 0xc0593b32 in boot (howto=260) at > ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:531 > #2 0xc0593fe3 in panic (fmt=0xc0af61cc "%s: nhindex %u could not be > allocated\n") at ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:897 > > I need help in understanding what is function doadump? what role it > plays in FreeBSD. And what do i interpret from the output above. doadump() is just the function that wrote the kernel dump: you need to look at the functions below panic() in the call stack to see what caused the crash. Already you can see that the problem was: %s: nhindex %u could not be allocated -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 09:03:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039B7106566B for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com) Received: from n2a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n2a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A872D8FC17 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.12.93] by n2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2010 08:50:37 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.82] by t1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2010 08:50:37 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.102] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2010 08:50:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2010 08:50:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 466307.60794.bm@omp106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 13525 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2010 08:50:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1283763037; bh=Dqr3ybip41gfxjQG2MI7GQ71szapufPbKHst9vzvPtQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bVh/tb/nRggM5ZdVlQhc1duS+NT90m2BT043uLD2ZlTPoBE53BWADib+izoN1/8si72zTTX99FKW6sjZafsN+Sc7ivwHjaOxVk19rCMsILowbTfCfaliwhXLWO6Ptj2SB2Z2s/ung1qtu8pmL0S0eSXKHFV3JX5ifWuJ0T5qUgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G3nNlE2hASFA54Jki8l8Yv/+jqZCjUPVunUNAvJE/4A42azvyZw6Oxtj06+G/mKf+GxfpYESKqxvfR7R7d+/BldTXzuCJmCu54/tIH71joZ47ewcEQezCLTkLMapCHwtqPwrwbC5hTuM5CS5YNy4rCbCSglMirz+uzh3WDUzRgI=; Message-ID: <383147.13442.qm@web113909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DkV_GiMVM1mRJtic3IKCDSPkLD4zmmEC52kY3.TDkaz9eH4 WUvhDaaxLIqWyDXoNDSgpnUutW05LxnViee.AMGIhftOUjCKrPTxTeSxuEg_ yyyxW9HxACVnSmfrysPjfwr26l.1HphavkupTWPhnDP5pdARRLRKBZi09uaW LLFSfmFTH0iOSaEcFjeRwS7Q878sVkX.THZ28tTQ7GRSwWXHFjoXzTgWe2YU 3m2MVwZBUIdw1uZezh_sYajPfCPUFjwHMnI6TKjm3c4RDrxA4BeLT501BgmJ WbVDmzXhhfngh2EGJDcghAQXXhx4xJulmv0KvhR11LkVXBzCKnEPsbzpa236 hjhKhFIQhX_MGBp323sf5LumRHDcC1Q-- Received: from [116.197.178.83] by web113909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:50:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <291410.40127.qm@web113906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20100906084913.0000120f@unknown> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 01:50:37 -0700 (PDT) From: vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20100906084913.0000120f@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:03:57 -0000 Hi Bruce Thanks for u r reply. So is it that doadump is the only function which is responsible for writing dump in BSD? Or thier are other fucntion which can also do this. I will be looking into the function below which called these last few func to generate the dump. I need docs or links which could help me in understanding the role of the doadump, panic and boot. Regards Abhijeet.C ----- Original Message ---- From: Bruce Cran To: vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, September 6, 2010 1:19:13 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi Everybody > > Greetings! > > I am new to the mailing list and working newly on the FreeBSD > platform. I have some query regarding the kernel dump which i am > trying to decode. > > #0 doadump (di=0xc0baca40, live_dump=0) at > ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:444 > #1 0xc0593b32 in boot (howto=260) at > ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:531 > #2 0xc0593fe3 in panic (fmt=0xc0af61cc "%s: nhindex %u could not be > allocated\n") at ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:897 > > I need help in understanding what is function doadump? what role it > plays in FreeBSD. And what do i interpret from the output above. doadump() is just the function that wrote the kernel dump: you need to look at the functions below panic() in the call stack to see what caused the crash. Already you can see that the problem was: %s: nhindex %u could not be allocated -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 09:26:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458D810656D7 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27658FC23 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA7A1CC5D; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:26:11 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 6AA7A1CC5D DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1283765171; bh=6kfcZFb3Q6gjq13+fQqL2TX5KvvZQNyTeRZUQ4NzIxU=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OSUqtEDZzY86TACtFei/kP0qeUeBmsNC/B8IsW/9lbi6rMuQYhmNs7dHdmunkdVLD /H0K4hsFeLAiYabsiVB1mrJYGvKeW7QkDd2Cefgx12ZL6cTW5uPAV24gPidK8Do9bn MQFkdm8u8HCw6O+utNdHzYbeNUy16e8Rig3LhsZg= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id QliS0q2TIGh8; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:26:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B5CE1CC5B; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:26:04 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 1B5CE1CC5B Message-ID: <25499C748E4C4414ACD97AEE6D6830A6@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "Jason C. Wells" , "freebsd general questions" References: <4C83F352.1030400@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <4C83F352.1030400@speakeasy.net> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:26:09 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: Subject: Re: ASN.1 encoding ended unexpectedly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:26:43 -0000 Sadly from = http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D147454&cat=3Dkern.=20 Heimdal in 8.0-> is seriously broken and it looks like it has been=20 left to bitrot due missing maintainer in system... -Reko -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason C. Wells" Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:45 PM To: "freebsd general questions" Subject: ASN.1 encoding ended unexpectedly > I've upgraded to FreeBSD 8.1-R from 7.1-R. I propogated my database=20 > to my new KDC. After doing so I've deleted and recreated most of my=20 > principals to take advantage of AES. I also deleted and=20 > re-extracted keytabs on the hosts. I can acquire a TGT. When I=20 > attempt to telnet to a host, I receive this error: > > [ Kerberos V5 refuses authentication because Read req failed: ASN.1=20 > encoding ended unexpectedly ] > > Any ideas where to start? > > Thanks, > Jason C. Wells > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 10:06:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ED71065779 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C558FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o86A6DjP029752; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 03:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C84BD14.8080101@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:06:12 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100815 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vbox@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: VBox-3.2.8 has screen refresh problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:06:15 -0000 When vbox window is minimized or covered by other windows and comes back on top it doesn't repaint. Resizing the window helps to refresh it. This happens on FreeBSD-8.1-STABLE amd64 with the latest NVidia driver. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 10:56:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDBE10656DF for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6338FC13 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (94.193.93.212) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.124.10) id 4C6543E700AA5463; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:56:04 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:55:56 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com Message-ID: <20100906115556.00004758@unknown> In-Reply-To: <383147.13442.qm@web113909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <291410.40127.qm@web113906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20100906084913.0000120f@unknown> <383147.13442.qm@web113909.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:56:26 -0000 On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 01:50:37 -0700 (PDT) vyaaghrah-nix@yahoo.com wrote: > So is it that doadump is the only function which is responsible for > writing dump in BSD? Or thier are other fucntion which can also do > this. doadump() is the main entry-point which triggers dumping. There's also a textdump system. > [...] > I need docs or links which could help me in understanding the role of > the doadump, panic and boot. There's information about how to do kernel debugging at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html But essentially panic() is called in kernel code when something wrong is detected so the system can stop whatever it's doing. doadump() just dumps the contents of memory to disk. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 11:12:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5E510656C9 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D66D8FC19 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o86BCmoT082519 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 04:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o86BCmjU082518 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 04:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA27393; Mon, 6 Sep 10 04:08:18 PDT Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:19:34 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4c84ce46.sHyLaI+H+UzM+J/y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4c83190a.SG+LIhPWaGtmaaeL%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C835474.7060707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4c8487cc.Rh42YL91jTIv09e0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: More gmirror problems (Re: "gmirror load" broken in 8.1 memstick) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:12:50 -0000 I wrote: > The good news is ... > > Fixit# ln -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot > > after which "gmirror load" works, creating /dev/mirror/gm0{,a,b}. and the bad news is that it still doesn't work: * "gmirror load" did create /dev/mirror/gm0{,a,b}, and it produced no output on stdout or stderr, but it appended a couple of lines to dmesg and the second does not look at all promising: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm0 launched (1/1). GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot add disk ad0s2a to gm0 (error=17). 17 is defined in sys/errno.h as EEXIST /* File exists */ What can this mean? Of course ad0s2a and gm0 exist: ad0s2a is the (so far only) provider for gm0, which was just instantiated. By a different test, that error message may be bogus (long lines reformatted): Fixit# ls -la /dev/mirror total 1 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root 0 512 Sep 6 08:18 ./ dr-xr-xr-x 8 root 0 512 Sep 6 08:08 ../ crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 78 Sep 6 08:15 gm0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 79 Sep 6 08:15 gm0a crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 80 Sep 6 08:15 gm0b Fixit# file -s /dev/mirror/* /dev/ad0s2a /dev/mirror/gm0: Unix Fast File system [v2] (little-endian) last mounted on /mnt/z, last written at Sun Sep 5 03:24:40 2010, clean flag 1, readonly flag 0, number of blocks 154976879, number of data blocks 150098746, number of cylinder groups 1648, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, average file size 16384, average number of files in dir 64, pending blocks to free 0, pending inodes to free 0, system-wide uuid 0, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, TIME optimization /dev/mirror/gm0a: Unix Fast File system [v2] (little-endian) last mounted on /mnt/z, last written at Sun Sep 5 03:24:40 2010, clean flag 1, readonly flag 0, number of blocks 154976879, number of data blocks 150098746, number of cylinder groups 1648, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, average file size 16384, average number of files in dir 64, pending blocks to free 0, pending inodes to free 0, system-wide uuid 0, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, TIME optimization /dev/mirror/gm0b: ERROR: cannot read `/dev/mirror/gm0b' (Input/Output error) /dev/ad0s2a: Unix Fast File system [v2] (little-endian) last mounted on /mnt/z, last written at Sun Sep 5 03:24:40 2010, clean flag 1, readonly flag 0, number of blocks 154976879, number of data blocks 150098746, number of cylinder groups 1648, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, average file size 16384, average number of files in dir 64, pending blocks to free 0, pending inodes to free 0, system-wide uuid 0, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, TIME optimization This sure _looks_ as if mirror/gm0 and mirror/gm0a are seeing the data on ad0s2a, so maybe it's working after all. But: * After exiting from Fixit, and having sysinstall rescan devices so as to become aware of /dev/mirror/gm0*, gm0 is not in the disk list for either Partition (slice) or Label. I even tried: Fixit# ( cd /dev && ln -s mirror/* . && ll gm* ) lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0@ -> mirror/gm0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0a@ -> mirror/gm0a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 10 Sep 6 10:48 gm0b@ -> mirror/gm0b in case sysinstall looks only in /dev itself and not in any subdirectories, and gm0 is *still* not in either list. How do I get sysinstall to see it? 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(VPS 100906-0, 09/06/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:46:55 -0000 On 9/5/2010 4:02 PM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Frank Shute wrote: > >> Drew, try this: >> >> * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com >> >> I think it's not catching it because the period isn't backslash >> escaped ... > Unless there's some edge case that I'm not thinking of, adding a > backslash to escape a period will never convert a non-match into > a match. An unescaped period in an RE matches any character, > including a period. An escaped period matches only a period. I have confirmed this. I did add the backslash but procmail is still not matching. > Adding the backslash _does_ better represent what the OP wants > to accomplish, but the lack of it is not the cause of the RE not > matching. (I'm not sufficiently familiar with how procmail uses > REs to figure out what _is_ causing it not to match.) True and thus I'll leave the backslash. However I have no idea what _is_ causing it not to match either. I'm stumped. Thanks, Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 17:48:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF53E1065698 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp3.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C27BC8FC0A for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 17:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7883 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2010 10:49:31 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 7879, pid: 7880, t: 0.1906s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp3.int.surewest.net. 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(VPS 100906-0, 09/06/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:49:00 -0000 On 9/5/2010 2:32 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On 9/5/10 12:33 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> No, still not matching. Basically, why doesn't this header: >> >> From: "Famous Smoke Shop" >> >> Match this procmail recipe: >> >> :0 >> * ^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$ > Hmm.. I just noticed this - I don't think you need the trailing bracket (>). > > What about this: > > * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com$ > > Note that I also escaped the period before 'com'. I think I'd have to have the trailing bracket when specifying the "$" at the end. However maybe the bracket is some special regex character and needs to be escaped? I'm just going to remove the bracket and the $ and see what happens. However I *would* like to understand. Thanks for your help! Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 18:16:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E58810656CC for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5568FC20 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o86IG45Y081675; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 14:16:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o86IG4qZ081672; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 14:16:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 14:16:04 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: Gautham Ganapathy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20100724084204.597b9e6f@scorpio> <20100724154644.75b1938b@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:16:06 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, Gautham Ganapathy wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Jerry wrote: > >> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 +0000 >> Paul B Mahol articulated: >> >> >>> On 7/24/10, Jerry wrote: >>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +0000 >>>> Paul B Mahol articulated: >>>> >>>>> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because >>>>> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization. >>>>> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my >>>>> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0 >>>>> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this >>>>> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done >>>>> yet... >>>>> Feel free to send patches. >>>> >>>> I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not >>>> support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure >>>> and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in >>>> FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends >>>> something to laugh about. >>> >>> And bwn(4) doesn't work at all? >> >> >> bwn -- Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11b/g wireless network driver >> >> >> You will notice that there is no 'n' in the description. In any case, >> it is limited to 'broadcom' chips. >> >> -- >> Jerry ? >> FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net >> > > Nope, bwn did not work. The man page mentioned a port that also had to be > installed. It had two modules, which I put in loader.conf one at a time > along with if_bwn.ko, but still no luck. > > The card I have has a Broadcom 4353 chipset. I think it is b/g/n. > I have a laptop with the same card. In a December 23, 2009 (in current I think) the driver maintainer said: I see that your device has LP-PHY instead of A/B/G/N PHYs so currently it's not supported by bwn(4). AFAIK linux has a weak but working implementation so we could refer to other Open Sources. At least on 8.1 bwn does not recognize the device. I can not find XP drivers. Broadcom's site does not (as far as I could find) mention the card. It does not sound like the XP driver work much better. Using the win7 drivers produces a hard loop upon doing an ifconfig. There are no PRs on either ndis or bwn so I assume this will be the state of things for a while at least. If anyone got the XP drivers to work with this card, please share the solution and how to get the drivers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 18:51:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF2D1065695 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 040688FC0A for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2182 invoked by uid 0); 6 Sep 2010 18:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2010 18:51:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=C4tBJTIMQD2mUwzQUXhv5KVupNjDQuTfI1BBfKDuqBYg9uDIfxGBiBOvGcB/H3G/bxQFRLijwu6tc82Jx5Jhq28OfnT16Cm5jSzvBSMZ28h63fL6yNl/6tQRtBqXT388; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Osgmj-0004r5-7l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:51:18 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:48:02 -0600 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:48:02 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:51:19 -0000 --Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 08:57:11AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 05:09:20PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to be > > > able to find in ports? I went looking for pdf2html, expecting to find > > > that there, but no luck. Before I spend hours sifting through, still > > > without knowing whether I missed something that should be obvious,=20 > >=20 > > Yes, you did. :-) Apparently not. See below. > >=20 > > > I > > > figured I'd ask here whether anyone knows of something off the top of > > > his/her head. > >=20 > > Try textproc/pdftohtml=20 >=20 > Uhm, he said "other than pdftohtml" so I suspect he already knew about > that one. This is indeed the case. I appreciate the several suggestions I've received, though I see in retrospect that I haven't been sufficiently specific, since I have not gotten any suitable answers. I have "inherited" a Perl script that wraps pdftohtml. The reason a wrapper is needed is that a substantial amount of cleanup work is needed to produce HTML suitable to our final needs. The output of pdftohtml is sufficiently far from "perfect" that I would like to test the output of a few other possible "back ends" for the script to see if a significant amount of work being done by the script can be eliminated. Toward that end, the simpler the tool the better -- and the tool on the "back end" should not be something that must be contacted across a network, or that cannot be redistributed freely. I wanted to start with things I have in the base system on my FreeBSD laptop (where I'm doing my development) or through ports. OpenOffice.org is quite a bit larger and more unwieldy than we would really want to deal with at this point. Using Google or Adobe tools online is well outside the range of what we need (requiring network access for the tool to work). I've started looking at the Xpdf tools as well as pdftohtml. Other suggestions from within ports would be appreciated. Additional options other than what can be found in ports might also be useful, understanding the needs I sketched out above. The script itself is Perl, in case that matters. To everyone who has replied so far: thank you for your time. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyFN2IACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX5yACgkFj+xVrwM/kyInSMNHcAKCtU NnAAn29tz1SPeY6V1jH+rD5uwZCswHvP =30/w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sr1nOIr3CvdE5hEN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 19:02:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F105410656E1 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0068FC15 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o86J27ne015262; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:02:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o86J27pT015259; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:02:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:02:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:02:11 -0000 On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: > I've started looking at the Xpdf tools as well as pdftohtml. Other > suggestions from within ports would be appreciated. Additional options > other than what can be found in ports might also be useful, understanding > the needs I sketched out above. The script itself is Perl, in case that > matters. An alternative might be to render the PDF to a relatively low-res bitmap. Then the HTML becomes just an IMG. You can do that directly with Ghostscript, or use ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 19:04:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562BF1065672 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4918FC0A for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Osgrd-000617-9Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:56:22 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:04:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:04:37 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100906190437.GB26054@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:04:42 -0000 --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 06 September 2010: > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 08:57:11AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 05:09:20PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > What PDF to HTML translators, other than pdftohtml, am I likely to = be > > > > able to find in ports? I went looking for pdf2html, expecting to f= ind > > > > that there, but no luck. Before I spend hours sifting through, sti= ll > > > > without knowing whether I missed something that should be obvious,= =20 > > >=20 > > > Yes, you did. :-) >=20 > Apparently not. See below. >=20 >=20 > > >=20 > > > > I > > > > figured I'd ask here whether anyone knows of something off the top = of > > > > his/her head. > > >=20 > > > Try textproc/pdftohtml=20 > >=20 > > Uhm, he said "other than pdftohtml" so I suspect he already knew about > > that one. >=20 > This is indeed the case. >=20 > I appreciate the several suggestions I've received, though I see in > retrospect that I haven't been sufficiently specific, since I have not > gotten any suitable answers. >=20 > I have "inherited" a Perl script that wraps pdftohtml. The reason a > wrapper is needed is that a substantial amount of cleanup work is needed > to produce HTML suitable to our final needs. The output of pdftohtml is > sufficiently far from "perfect" that I would like to test the output of a > few other possible "back ends" for the script to see if a significant > amount of work being done by the script can be eliminated. >=20 > Toward that end, the simpler the tool the better -- and the tool on the > "back end" should not be something that must be contacted across a > network, or that cannot be redistributed freely. I wanted to start with > things I have in the base system on my FreeBSD laptop (where I'm doing my > development) or through ports. OpenOffice.org is quite a bit larger and > more unwieldy than we would really want to deal with at this point. > Using Google or Adobe tools online is well outside the range of what we > need (requiring network access for the tool to work). >=20 > I've started looking at the Xpdf tools as well as pdftohtml. Other > suggestions from within ports would be appreciated. Additional options > other than what can be found in ports might also be useful, understanding > the needs I sketched out above. The script itself is Perl, in case that > matters. >=20 > To everyone who has replied so far: thank you for your time. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] How about print/p5-PDFLib and print/pecl-pdflib to roll your own? Maybe that's more work than you wanted. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMhTtEAAoJEIpckszW26+RVKoH/jVEgYohW5uY8QzVcxD4hKM4 EAC7Cvy+KVb++6sJTY9YGPJFPfhZjeMdfPaQXPk4JHdi1FHlcr2NGAYZNy8oelOo XJWgAAjN22jJFen3Y2UK+3Z2TH+0ZEEaB4TniSkDlAQob5xUz6gBnL1cnOZxoI0z h32kNmGuMj2YU6kwcl3hFEANhaEox9L10Cu/csYc6AbTts6e8sVUhBs5i8EVb3r+ APhAR7AqqS8WyJr+R9ABl9L3yXdHJYbAXS75aebEt9Mmbz0G7JbBNou7L93E9L7Z c8oU0KuMVR07VJ0NZA9hLAtTwWOJJsHTzK9WJpFinDpsua1d1kPY3RKwxAWHSJc= =oRb/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 19:33:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F1E10656C9 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf00.insightbb.com (mxsf00.insightbb.com [74.128.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79DE8FC16 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:33:23 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,326,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="902486528" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2010 15:33:22 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aus0AFPehExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACHaotejSkMAQEBATUtvTSFPQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,326,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="42233402" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2010 15:33:22 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 15:33:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009061533.21588.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Plasma omic applet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:33:23 -0000 I can't get this applet to work, following the instructions provided. Anybody else get it to work? Here are the instructions: plasmapkg -t dataengine -i wifi-engine-1.0.plasmoid which I translated to mean: plasmapkg -t dataengine -i wifi-engine-1.0.1.plasmoid Is dataengine supposed to be replaced with something?? There is no man page for plasmapkg, which would allow me to find out what the options are... Here's the output: plasmapkg(32592)/kdeui (KIconLoader) KSharedDataCache::Private::mapSharedMemory: Failed to establish shared memory mapping, will fallback to private memory -- memory usage will increase plasmapkg(32592): Session bus not found KCrash: Application 'plasmapkg' crashing... KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/root/.kde4/socket-laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org/kdeinit4__0 Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi directly drkonqi(32659)/kdeui (KIconLoader) KSharedDataCache::Private::mapSharedMemory: Failed to establish shared memory mapping, will fallback to privat drkonqi(32659): Session bus not found From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 19:35:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6736C1065694 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf03.insightbb.com (mxsf03.insightbb.com [74.128.0.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EDE8FC23 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:35:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,326,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="935981143" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2010 15:35:21 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar5JAInfhExKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACEFINWi1wBAY0pDAEBAQE1Lb1JhT0E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,326,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="42233781" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2010 15:35:21 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steven Friedrich Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 15:35:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009061535.20532.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Plasma WiFi applet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:35:23 -0000 I can't get this applet to work, following the instructions provided. Anybody else get it to work? Here are the instructions: plasmapkg -t dataengine -i wifi-engine-1.0.plasmoid which I translated to mean: plasmapkg -t dataengine -i wifi-engine-1.0.1.plasmoid Is dataengine supposed to be replaced with something?? There is no man page for plasmapkg, which would allow me to find out what the options are... Here's the output: plasmapkg(32592)/kdeui (KIconLoader) KSharedDataCache::Private::mapSharedMemory: Failed to establish shared memory mapping, will fallback to private memory -- memory usage will increase plasmapkg(32592): Session bus not found KCrash: Application 'plasmapkg' crashing... KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/root/.kde4/socket-laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org/kdeinit4__0 Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi directly drkonqi(32659)/kdeui (KIconLoader) KSharedDataCache::Private::mapSharedMemory: Failed to establish shared memory mapping, will fallback to privat drkonqi(32659): Session bus not found From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 19:35:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C8610656C2 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22CAD8FC1D for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42052 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2010 19:35:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1283801754; bh=5CziH7u74A1DDPBlw1QxQlfKlQwE9osbQXvt9PXH5mM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q+OxYTrVg5Qfda2+u/Ov0dqoknFq5RC+wcEV/YQBBj/Qk+/4E7ZRrOdonW/zbJ59ySgVqP2w2sGgoGH9UvfRTMyJH3aoSgNp8kUB9t67Vg22ekP9+GAIUkIBElcQxN3179BoRQWN61JsrpzAQEYtfbSVpABwqazsa1/ffOSktVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BKvwnghrGhQhPDkMVOQ0hwbuzAPvF4et8ejxjsrViibUbZ8c3D9XIW8Dw8I0R+JRbdQAAQEAihydsZdjycptQerq8a7TKPIlNbF+W8XoiDnc7wG2IeQwVwwNCJxuPSk4YkK5ytDbPic9RAj7qoDf5cGSL+cQRCmiguwSZ7zZABk=; Message-ID: <168438.41481.qm@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RjwW09gVM1kcj8.AZX7lUmB7_dbyXf.yEwVNmYmBW1rnV6i F6PGzp2Nvu2IdkG7cTEcgeCy8Fh3mwAF5ss_05xo8uFYt7aakg5TcQr7Jae4 ZPsuQtPBTYd0HD2wWBWxHkA3gkF9fNKyNM9keJJUrhtvjac9REtl5qOtDc2. wS4xBD5SN2hTdjH1Kmvw2D10ZsueeXugl1I4NKvHufSBPDDBZ9Bh7RbDqcyc lWvgYMlZT1NIzZ4YWCFWf7LOoeF2KGPs8vQ2pjucDwHn53gi35B9m7bMmIpi iFU9frKZUZo8w0BXXToRsdwtspw1QHMg37dGsgQ-- Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:35:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.3.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:35:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NFS Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:35:55 -0000 I have two LAN segments with a FreeBSD server on each.=20 =A0 Server A is 10.0.0.254 Server B is 192.168.0.102 =A0 I setup server A has two drives and I setup a share on drive #2 to be share= d via NFS with the both networks. I also made a symlink on drive #2 to a fo= lder on drive #1 =A0 On server B I can nfs_mount the share on server A and see the symlink. But = when I try to access the files in the symlink it shows the link is broken, = In other words no files show up. =A0 On server A I can see the files in the symlink folder just fine.=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 19:40:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C437106570C for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23BAC8FC1E for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6584 invoked by uid 0); 6 Sep 2010 19:40:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2010 19:40:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=NMVM6KQuNPgKhG/1zXz3FHIK+mDAudEYccB03ggcLggXTPnEiG9LRrgZfg4/uYFlogTrh+Gl5rVbEkMJ48D+FSDBoMhijvnHknWaab7ejGDMM3gD5EoEmgt73SaU4plL; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OshYH-0004jE-AR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:40:26 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:37:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:37:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100906193710.GA28769@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> <20100906190437.GB26054@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100906190437.GB26054@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:40:27 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 12:04:37PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > How about print/p5-PDFLib and print/pecl-pdflib to roll your own? Maybe > that's more work than you wanted. I've looked into the PDFLib and PDF modules for Perl in CPAN, but as far as I've been able to determine they don't offer any support for exporting to other formats. I'd love to find out I'm wrong. I've been meaning to sort out how to use SWISH::Filter::Pdf2HTML as a possibility, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Isn't PECL for PHP, though? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyFQuYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXewQCaAoXIOYfG9f1XwDpYcEE7zyqT x3oAoNP5IgoaYwIRo/CQU/6bxjK30GLk =dPWS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 20:35:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6548A10656B6 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FA28FC08 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsiHB-0003Lo-Jl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:26:50 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:35:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:35:05 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100906203505.GA44032@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> <20100906190437.GB26054@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100906193710.GA28769@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100906193710.GA28769@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:35:11 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 06 September 2010: > On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 12:04:37PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > > How about print/p5-PDFLib and print/pecl-pdflib to roll your own? Maybe > > that's more work than you wanted. >=20 > I've looked into the PDFLib and PDF modules for Perl in CPAN, but as far > as I've been able to determine they don't offer any support for exporting > to other formats. I'd love to find out I'm wrong. I've been meaning to > sort out how to use SWISH::Filter::Pdf2HTML as a possibility, but haven't > gotten around to it yet. >=20 > Isn't PECL for PHP, though? >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Oops, you're right. How embarrassing -- confusing Perl and PHP is like confusing, well, any beautiful thing with its cheap imitation. I could blame Google, but I have to own up to my own careless reading of its results. I think PDFLib would allow you to inspect the PDF, but you'd have to write your own corresponding HTML. SWISH::Filter::Pdf2HTML looks promising, though. Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMhVB5AAoJEIpckszW26+Rp3MH+wRULf9+eD5VMbpJYwZ48QBl jb0yVRms3hAYz9mws/4rBwNsffDSd3lzb4EOigWAvmtfnglPn7/01WxUYJIryo/s Y4IkTe7ekCAAYqKLj0g4BdaMLxYXyesoyMeTKN3QbCyGlEwyGuUU/kfJAavFunxP CL6yjz0Isf+yvdTebef7PWPCt8s3MHqJBYH1Tj5v7g1Vyq5QLXw/fOQZuqQbiBEy oKF2r69dLRVXgcbrf1b4BPendTPS58wHYzcvRtMY9gN8iGll+A4j9cx29QoBNHww YQRfo2OgFpJY92bpsfhu+U0ohCaBkTrcEFIyMj5eXmL2enLu7gHsDt9Zhd9DYcQ= =V8Z/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 23:09:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622EE10656E4 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE1E8FC1D for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3auj1f0010Fqzac5Eb9lRa; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:09:45 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3b9j1f0071f6R9u3Ub9k98; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:09:45 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:09:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:09:41 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100906230941.GA6385@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:09:46 -0000 On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:02:07 PDT Warren Block wrote: >On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: >>I've started looking at the Xpdf tools as well as pdftohtml. Other >>suggestions from within ports would be appreciated. Additional options >>other than what can be found in ports might also be useful, understanding >>the needs I sketched out above. The script itself is Perl, in case that >>matters. > >An alternative might be to render the PDF to a relatively low-res >bitmap. Then the HTML becomes just an IMG. You can do that directly >with Ghostscript, or use ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick. Which, if I correctly understand the description on freshmeat, is almost exactly what pdf2html does. http://freshmeat.net/projects/pdf2html/ I downloaded the latest version just now and tried building it. The build failed with some syntax errors in pbm2png.c, so if anyone wants to add this to ports, they'll have some cleanup work to do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 23:33:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CF210656B7 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13B08FC0A for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3WJB1f0031wpRvQ53bZMe1; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:33:21 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3bZK1f0031f6R9u3ebZKxQ; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:33:20 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:33:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 16:33:17 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100906233317.GB6385@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100904230920.GA20735@guilt.hydra> <20100905065711.GA34993@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100905083154.GA89704@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20100906184802.GC28608@guilt.hydra> <20100906230941.GA6385@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100906230941.GA6385@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: PDF to HTML translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:33:21 -0000 On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 16:09:41 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: >On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:02:07 PDT Warren Block wrote: >>On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: >>>I've started looking at the Xpdf tools as well as pdftohtml. Other >>>suggestions from within ports would be appreciated. Additional options >>>other than what can be found in ports might also be useful, understanding >>>the needs I sketched out above. The script itself is Perl, in case that >>>matters. >> >>An alternative might be to render the PDF to a relatively low-res >>bitmap. Then the HTML becomes just an IMG. You can do that >>directly >>with Ghostscript, or use ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick. > >Which, if I correctly understand the description on freshmeat, is almost >exactly what pdf2html does. > >http://freshmeat.net/projects/pdf2html/ > >I downloaded the latest version just now and tried building it. The >build failed with some syntax errors in pbm2png.c, so if anyone wants >to add this to ports, they'll have some cleanup work to do. FWIW, the syntax errors are all due to some misplaced line breaks. Re-joining all the lines that generate a warning about a missing terminating " character fixes this. (This was using gcc 4.2.1.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 00:08:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id E439F10656AE; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:08:55 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100907000855.GA20642@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: unchar and ulong typedefs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:08:56 -0000 hi there, just stumbled over PR 44365 and was wondering why FreeBSD never added unchar and ulong to types.h to increase sys v compatibility? cheers. alex -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 00:28:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A45C10656BB for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE4A8FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5880 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2010 00:28:08 -0000 Received: from g1.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.42]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Sep 2010 00:28:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4C858718.4080101@speakeasy.net> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:28:08 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Best References: <20100907000855.GA20642@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20100907000855.GA20642@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unchar and ulong typedefs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:28:09 -0000 On 09/06/10 17:08, Alexander Best wrote: > hi there, > > just stumbled over PR 44365 and was wondering why FreeBSD never added unchar > and ulong to types.h to increase sys v compatibility? > Sys V. Is that some sort of linux distribution? (only half joking) Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 01:39:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7274910656D5 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@dannysplace.net) Received: from mailgw.dannysplace.net (mailgw.dannysplace.net [204.109.56.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EC08FC19 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [203.206.171.212] (helo=[192.168.10.10]) by mailgw.dannysplace.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Osn9q-000NNU-MC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:39:35 +1000 Message-ID: <4C8597C7.7010002@dannysplace.net> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:39:19 +1000 From: Danny Carroll User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: danny X-Authenticator: plain X-Exim-Version: 4.72 (build at 12-Jul-2010 18:31:29) X-Date: 2010-09-07 11:39:34 X-Connected-IP: 203.206.171.212:64644 X-Message-Linecount: 24 X-Body-Linecount: 13 X-Message-Size: 870 X-Body-Size: 411 X-Received-Count: 1 X-Recipient-Count: 1 X-Local-Recipient-Count: 1 X-Local-Recipient-Defer-Count: 0 X-Local-Recipient-Fail-Count: 0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 203.206.171.212 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fbsd@dannysplace.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on damka.dannysplace.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mailgw.dannysplace.net) Subject: Windows XP Backup resetting unix perms. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@dannysplace.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:39:26 -0000 Today I decided to make a backup of some of my unix data to an XP machine in preparation for a migration. I set windows XP backup running and when it started backing up files in my home directory I noticed that it set u-x permissions on all of the files. Directories are unaffected. If I use XP's security dialog to set the permissions back, they are applied OK. Has anyone seen this behaviour before? -D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 01:51:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B2410656E4 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7593A8FC1C for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so6212190wyb.13 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:51:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Oo6c4X8lb2RKVeEv9/p0ky6dymDzsnhhC5e/yNOROI4=; b=GtfKXF3d8Sj+UsF1xnNkeTvguQHQJK21etkEfw8iqnaYTvwefrj0jLoChlHVS0BOUT NOjgsNd+qolb6gWR62hSzbQIrjRk8HGSXkgo7l709aYi9+kr8+0DHwz2p1d5JRxS7P1u 9PmdPyImQ17R+WnKDO62T3xxUXrJswJqMqphM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cOpYiMnSlq6dgs5AKLzSGPNTYWtVPhfjeZBBlGlPVq2tAM+p1R1qeyCtktDBqz7lnE 1Ng37qkKhu3FOGXRKBNXWfTxlmwNbo9fjEGwP/X/21iYbXCC5HxoSq9GF1cPciCuMV7B JZyFSGsGZItpTbOzR0kyajDar6klyH9siXRNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.54.202 with SMTP id i52mr4412344wec.40.1283824260237; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.169.211 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:51:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100902140113.GA69315@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20100830120007.543fa5dd@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100902140113.GA69315@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 20:51:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Frank Shute Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: George Davidovich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: killall -9 program-name does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:51:02 -0000 On 9/2/10, Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 08:32:56PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> On 8/30/10, RW wrote: >> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:14:58 +0000 >> > Antonio Olivares wrote: >> > >> >> Dear fellow FreeBSD users, >> >> >> >> I have a cron script that plays music in the morning when I arrive at >> >> work. >> >> >> >> in ~/.xalarm I have two lines, one that calls xterm and one that calls >> >> mplayer and plays a series of music files in a playlist >> >> >> >> crontab -l >> >> has the following >> >> # min hour day-of-month month day-of-week command >> >> # 0-59 0-23 1-31 1-12 0-6 0=sun 1=mon >> >> 00 07 * * 1-5 ~/.xalarm >/dev/null 2>&1 >> >> 30 07 * * 1-5 killall -9 /usr/local/bin/mplayer >/dev/null 2>&1 >> > >> > You don't need the path to mplayer. >> >> It makes no difference. This does not stop mplayer from playing :( >> >> Thanks though for trying to help. >> >> Regards, >> >> Antonio > > Use the command: > > killall -d mplayer > > & see what it's saying. ie. don't direct stout & sterr to /dev/null > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > Frank and other interested folks, Thank you for all your help. I was able to solve the problem using a script provided by George that uses sleep and kill commands respectively. #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/ xterm -e /usr/local/bin/mplayer -really-quiet -shuffle -playlist ~/.playlist & PID=$! # all in one line, then sleep 1800 # 1800 is 60*30 play music for 30 minutes, kill $PID # music stops after playing for 30 minutes. The previous commands I had worked for several versions of linux but not on FreeBSD. The above one is for home machine to play music as I wake up, and the following one for work, #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/ xterm -e /usr/local/bin/mplayer -really-quiet -shuffle -playlist ~/.playlist & PID=$! # all in one line, then sleep 180 # 180 is 60*3 play music for 3 minutes, kill $PID Thank you all for your help. I had not noticed that killall -9 /usr/bin/mplayer was not stopping mplayer, but machine was shutting down since I had programmed it using cron as root to shutdown at a certain time. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 01:51:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B1B10656CA for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987DA8FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 01:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o871pPNL010373; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:51:25 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o871pObY010369; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:51:25 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 94A7A33C3D; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:51:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:51:24 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Drew Tomlinson Message-ID: <20100907015124.GA21193@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4C814262.5060504@mykitchentable.net> <4C814634.1000003@gmail.com> <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:51:28 -0000 On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:33:31AM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > [snip] > > No, still not matching. Basically, why doesn't this header: > > From: "Famous Smoke Shop" > > Match this procmail recipe: > > :0 > * ^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$ > "${HOME}/Maildir/.Shopping/Famous Smoke/Email/" > > From my procmail log: > > procmail: No match on "^From:.*famous-smoke.com>$" > > Thanks, > > Drew > I additionally don't like the look of your Maildir. It's quoted, you should set MAILDIR in procmailrc, you should get rid of the space and it should end in "new". Result: :0 * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com .Shopping/Famous_Smoke/new I don't know what you're using for maildirmake but here's a script you can adapt: ---- #!/bin/sh # # Usage: maildirmake mkdir $1 mkdir $1/new mkdir $1/cur mkdir $1/tmp chown frank:frank $1/new chown frank:frank $1/cur chown frank:frank $1/tmp chmod 700 $1 chmod 700 $1/new chmod 700 $1/cur chmod 700 $1/tmp ---- You have to run it from where you keep your maildirs i.e MAILDIR So if you have your maildirs in Mail: $ cd ~/Mail $ mkdir .Shopping $ cd .Shopping $ maildirmake Famous_Smoke For your ref, here's my procmailrc PATH=/usr/local/bin SHELL=/bin/sh ORGMAIL=$HOME/Maildir/new PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log VERBOSE=on MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/new LOGNAME=frank INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rules Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 02:00:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363E110656E0 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04B08FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o87205AK011147; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:00:05 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o87204aS011141; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:00:04 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8882A33C3D; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:00:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:00:04 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Danny Carroll Message-ID: <20100907020004.GB21193@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4C8597C7.7010002@dannysplace.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C8597C7.7010002@dannysplace.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows XP Backup resetting unix perms. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:00:16 -0000 On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:39:19AM +1000, Danny Carroll wrote: > > Today I decided to make a backup of some of my unix data to an XP > machine in preparation for a migration. > I set windows XP backup running and when it started backing up files in > my home directory I noticed that it set u-x permissions on all of the > files. > Directories are unaffected. > > If I use XP's security dialog to set the permissions back, they are > applied OK. > > Has anyone seen this behaviour before? > Yeah, it does that because it doesn't understand unix permissions. Proper way to back up to XP is to make a tarball of your $HOME first & then copy it to XP, that way the permissions are preserved. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 02:05:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B222110656C8 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@dannysplace.net) Received: from mailgw.dannysplace.net (mailgw.dannysplace.net [204.109.56.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7128FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [203.206.171.212] (helo=[192.168.10.10]) by mailgw.dannysplace.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OsnZB-0002BL-DZ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:05:47 +1000 Message-ID: <4C859DEA.7020708@dannysplace.net> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:05:30 +1000 From: Danny Carroll User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <4C8597C7.7010002@dannysplace.net> <20100907020004.GB21193@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100907020004.GB21193@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: danny X-Authenticator: plain X-Exim-Version: 4.72 (build at 12-Jul-2010 18:31:29) X-Date: 2010-09-07 12:05:46 X-Connected-IP: 203.206.171.212:52089 X-Message-Linecount: 42 X-Body-Linecount: 28 X-Message-Size: 1604 X-Body-Size: 936 X-Received-Count: 1 X-Recipient-Count: 2 X-Local-Recipient-Count: 2 X-Local-Recipient-Defer-Count: 0 X-Local-Recipient-Fail-Count: 0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 203.206.171.212 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fbsd@dannysplace.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on damka.dannysplace.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mailgw.dannysplace.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows XP Backup resetting unix perms. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@dannysplace.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:05:38 -0000 On 7/09/2010 12:00 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:39:19AM +1000, Danny Carroll wrote: >> >> Today I decided to make a backup of some of my unix data to an XP >> machine in preparation for a migration. >> I set windows XP backup running and when it started backing up files in >> my home directory I noticed that it set u-x permissions on all of the >> files. >> Directories are unaffected. >> >> If I use XP's security dialog to set the permissions back, they are >> applied OK. >> >> Has anyone seen this behaviour before? >> > > Yeah, it does that because it doesn't understand unix permissions. > > Proper way to back up to XP is to make a tarball of your $HOME first & > then copy it to XP, that way the permissions are preserved. > Hmmm. Apart from creating a readonly share, is there a way to tell samba to disallow this? Perhaps there is an option to disallow permissions updates altogether. -D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 02:45:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B451065679 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBFA8FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 02:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o872jb96076861; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:45:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:45:36 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: dave jones In-Reply-To: <20100905120024.A5AD31065732@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100907122428.J32216@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100905120024.A5AD31065732@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACPI questions about press power button X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:45:39 -0000 Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 326, Issue 11, Message: 19 On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:04:51 +0800 dave jones wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 8 on my desktop. I want to write a file or do something > when I or someone presses power button. In devd.conf, I added the > following lines > for testing: > > notify 10 { > match "system" "ACPI"; > match "subsystem" "Button"; > matcho "notify" "0x00" > action "echo hello world"; > }; > > But it doesn't work. Would anyone tell me how to do? Thanks. I'm not sure this will do what you want anyway; devd will handle the notify but won't replace the normal action itself, ie it might power down (hopefully running shutdown actions, synching disks etc), however 'matcho' won't match 'match' :) and that line needs a trailing ';'. Whether or not it powers down (perhaps depending on BIOS setting, ie instant-off or 4-second-delay), it may be more useful logging it, say: action "logger -p kern.emerg 'power button pressed!'"; cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 03:09:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91281065697 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6358FC18 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.140] (helo=smtp9.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsoYE-0003Jj-0z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:08:50 +0200 Received: from [84.25.59.18] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp9.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsoYD-0007qq-Id for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:08:49 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC7A39856 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 05:08:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C85ACA4.80101@boosten.org> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:08:20 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C814262.5060504@mykitchentable.net> <4C814634.1000003@gmail.com> <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> <20100907015124.GA21193@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100907015124.GA21193@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OsoYD-0007qq-Id X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.314, vereist 5, BAYES_40 -0.18, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:09:02 -0000 On 7-9-2010 3:51, Frank Shute wrote: > [snip] > I additionally don't like the look of your Maildir. It's quoted, you > should set MAILDIR in procmailrc, you should get rid of the space and > it should end in "new". Result: > > :0 > * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com > .Shopping/Famous_Smoke/new I've actually never seen a recipe (either on the net, nor in the examples in procmailex suggesting this. The 'new' part is taken care of by procmail itself. > > I don't know what you're using for maildirmake but here's a script you > can adapt: > > ---- > > #!/bin/sh > # > # Usage: maildirmake > > mkdir $1 > mkdir $1/new > mkdir $1/cur > mkdir $1/tmp > chown frank:frank $1/new > chown frank:frank $1/cur > chown frank:frank $1/tmp > chmod 700 $1 > chmod 700 $1/new > chmod 700 $1/cur > chmod 700 $1/tmp > > ---- > > You have to run it from where you keep your maildirs i.e MAILDIR Also something procmail takes care of automatically. I've never created any directory structure for procmail to be able to deliver email to it. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 03:19:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D9E10656DF for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gvidals@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6148FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 03:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3204018fxm.13 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:18:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=F0HSfMoF5fH7PE9XbIS8GsAjBpJ70JDsDrFAk4PWsLc=; b=CEDZc9+o0CHNZcXomXGKwtjcA1KSBHSmr57sIgLLdxcKa4QW41UIAPnj0YQwEpCdyM zT0q1Q6+8IM2YZNZvKPcoyzzuzolkCZHsiLnom1lPGU8eLsAeDxWI7MfqSmz5oLxri+N 6tKntKdYZyD9tlMHgcCbM1+KCIXImVUClRrIY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JcSImF4/FsAJUOsYKSMvKD73uZB6W47dHn4pNy5yvKb3GJw8+X08eaQZJnvwhJ6B2u wQMfYA2WWz8Biupn0OOlp7c3BlBd3JHHjsbdP1RbEQDao1BDupOHrpnfTmiQnwDucOjk gjhuXp0AoSk4fp8BCXgXWZolQMe+3bCFsCE2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.131.11 with SMTP id 11mr138950hbl.194.1283828140744; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.180.196 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:55:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Gil Vidals To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gil@vidals.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:19:00 -0000 I'm new to both FreeBSD and ZFS and need some guidance. The only way I could get zfs to work was by installing FreeBSD directly on a freebsd-ZFS file system, which isn't supported by default by sysinstall. I had to run the zfsinstall.sh script which creates the freebsd-ZFS file system and compiles freeBSD. Whenever If I used the standard install (UFS file system), I would always get an "unsupported file system" error whenever I tried to kldload zfs.ko. Is there away to install FreeBSD on the standard UFS file system and then use the other disks on the server for ZFS? I would appreciate any hints. Thanks, Gil Vidals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 04:50:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DA810656CE for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 04:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53B68FC1E for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 04:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3226777fxm.13 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:50:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=weuxzBwLzuJA1u485RizVrQvOHNmmkgBpJB2MNRoHs0=; b=PhroJqwn1GX/6OodUT1ywThPMk/68bgo4vNnvRb9pbqyKL4fGMQHqn6kUFhHvCMKAS yxS856BviP5Nq9BMEAqDlPiV/f4n/6kpPzrcSz9wrMb8noNkNDXfcaBPmqYQE5MyLAgq xyrb/VOrRfqbcFcFNepC/L5jJ7M7wTS7Zp0Q4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=yFoa4qRQV4/KIcrwVoAu62KEKOOEiBbEClpk7gJQEigb7wqsXoefSxl2LGKCrpIXZO SwKHbw+Bmvu0jJRrO3mmuabrwE1vtMTyf0IdHbYwVVoU7M5bcDdtgn4CywKn1ip6tGp5 yI+kSiVqrZ810SswctWCtxljUBmCeKCFprzc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.120.70 with SMTP id c6mr3300769far.40.1283835003591; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:50:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:50:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: gil@vidals.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 04:50:05 -0000 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Gil Vidals wrote: > Whenever If I used the standard install (UFS file system), I would always > get an "unsupported file system" error whenever I tried to kldload zfs.ko. > That doesn't seem like a logical error, the only occurrence of the "unsupported file system" text in the src tree is in /usr/src/sbin/ggate/shared/ggate.c. Can you be more specific about the steps you are taking to reach this error, and it's exact message. Is there away to install FreeBSD on the standard UFS file system and then > use the other disks on the server for ZFS? > That's a very common approach. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 05:05:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE5F10656D7 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 05:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92728FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 05:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5CC7652A44; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: gil@vidals.net References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.3; tzolkin = 12 Akbal; haab = 16 Mol Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:05:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Gil Vidals's message of "Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:55:40 -0700") Message-ID: <8662yiywgq.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:05:41 -0000 >>>>> "Gil" == Gil Vidals writes: Gil> The only way I could Gil> get zfs to work was by installing FreeBSD directly on a freebsd-ZFS file Gil> system, which isn't supported by default by sysinstall. It *is* supported by PCBSD-8.1 installer though, and PCBSD can install a typical FreeBSD install without all of the PCBSD extra packages. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 05:07:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C2110656A3 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 05:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683DD8FC16 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 05:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so4638940bwz.13 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:07:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=W7du0eGrd7aT14Yg2tUl85Fv0Ri6KSb8ZywZ5HTlz9c=; b=n1mR0B70hAnNyNax8bJaE970fwbobs/kBn6L3NQzi8beMpWOXbKIS+cWTMhtmpEDbf q0nuBdPQQccLKzyJMsO2MRaGFzIQI8lG3EQzEbdRC/WJgnyYTk4v+oSAOSMFBB5Ffujg DUwC5Y2wgASKcZaOjpLeC6DDcpcw5I0UQVJ0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jAWNEhdMLyfpJk7V5IaCZ77p5xSgJxtDk3ql584OGC8KAwui9qOowUOBj07UbeMD+6 jTGGhyekT7mXEqRVkCnlQVRmxxhlG/G+bKiGJtwdjOvqv858DHq5+FKV1TWhDI8Vz1h1 M2ZpDFoT8kGs8yri3D2caUWNHe5sCSljCpy+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.205 with SMTP id d13mr513027bkk.93.1283836053116; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.80.167 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:07:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:07:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: dave jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACPI questions about press power button X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:07:34 -0000 2010/9/5 dave jones : > Hello, > > I'm running FreeBSD 8 on my desktop. I want to write a file or do somethi= ng > when I or someone presses power button. In devd.conf, I added the > following lines > for testing: > > =C2=A0notify 10 { > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0match "system" =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"ACPI"; > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0match "subsystem" =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0"Button"; > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0matcho "notify" =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"0x00" > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0action "echo hello world"; > =C2=A0 =C2=A0}; > > But it doesn't work. Would anyone tell me how to do? Thanks. > > Regards, > Dave. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > I think, you must first disable this setting because S5 is the default behavior when pressing the power button, it calls /etc/rc.shutdown. hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 Disable it with sysctl hw.acpi.power_button_state=3DNONE and add this line to /etc/sysctl.conf. And then maybe the power button will be released for an other purpose? Kind regards. --=20 Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 07:13:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B750010656D2 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C9F8FC16 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o877DTxp026175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o877DT1P026174; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00576; Tue, 7 Sep 10 00:10:54 PDT Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:21:26 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: merlyn@stonehenge.com Message-Id: <4c85e7f6.d5ohjgv5UwUOr6ji%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <8662yiywgq.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <8662yiywgq.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:13:30 -0000 merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > ... PCBSD can install a typical FreeBSD install without all of > the PCBSD extra packages. Is there a writeup somewhere on how to do this, much preferably involving something like memstick rather than having to burn a CD or DVD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 09:00:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3912610656B4 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8856A8FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:00:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14321237 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:00:18 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8790CRP048743 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:00:18 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8790CmA048742 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:00:12 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:00:12 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:00:22 -0000 Am I asking something unreasonable? Victor Sudakov wrote: > > What tricks do you use if you need to allow a packet and then fwd > it (or vice versa)? The search terminates and the packet quits ipfw on > "fwd" as well as on "allow". > > How do I allow a packet and then policy route it? An example ruleset > will be appreciated. > -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 10:01:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B897B10656DC for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349D88FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-68-0.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.68.0] (may be forged)) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o87A1eOU029388; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:01:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4C860D84.6080502@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:01:40 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100817 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <4C814262.5060504@mykitchentable.net> <4C814634.1000003@gmail.com> <4C8164C7.9000107@mykitchentable.net> <4C83C65B.6060508@mykitchentable.net> <20100905205910.GA82375@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4c84216f.w2295Zjs25+GOe/F%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4C852907.5000303@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4C852907.5000303@mykitchentable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:01:45 -0000 2010-09-06 19:46, Drew Tomlinson skrev: > On 9/5/2010 4:02 PM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> Frank Shute wrote: >> >>> Drew, try this: >>> >>> * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com >>> >>> I think it's not catching it because the period isn't backslash >>> escaped ... >> Unless there's some edge case that I'm not thinking of, adding a >> backslash to escape a period will never convert a non-match into >> a match. An unescaped period in an RE matches any character, >> including a period. An escaped period matches only a period. > > I have confirmed this. I did add the backslash but procmail is still not > matching. > >> Adding the backslash _does_ better represent what the OP wants >> to accomplish, but the lack of it is not the cause of the RE not >> matching. (I'm not sufficiently familiar with how procmail uses >> REs to figure out what _is_ causing it not to match.) > > True and thus I'll leave the backslash. However I have no idea what _is_ > causing it not to match either. I'm stumped. I think it is the dash. Try to escape it like so: * ^From:.*famous\-smoke\.com > Thanks, > > Drew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 10:28:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370D410656D0 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61B18FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1OsvPM-0007cE-5X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:28:08 +0100 Received: from [94.168.170.153] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1OsvPF-0002sH-HY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:28:01 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 11:23:19 +0100 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F78973929C5D4@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? Thread-Index: ActOO5GrzPLyh4QRQRO23GDff8vxhgAOx+sp References: From: "Graeme Dargie" To: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:28:11 -0000 =20 ________________________________ From: Gil Vidals [mailto:gvidals@gmail.com] Sent: Tue 07/09/2010 03:55 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? I'm new to both FreeBSD and ZFS and need some guidance. The only way I = could get zfs to work was by installing FreeBSD directly on a freebsd-ZFS file system, which isn't supported by default by sysinstall. I had to run the zfsinstall.sh script which creates the freebsd-ZFS file system and = compiles freeBSD. Whenever If I used the standard install (UFS file system), I would = always get an "unsupported file system" error whenever I tried to kldload = zfs.ko. Is there away to install FreeBSD on the standard UFS file system and = then use the other disks on the server for ZFS? I would appreciate any hints. Thanks, Gil Vidals _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org Once you have installed FreeBSD 8.0 to a ufs partition have you from = your SU account have you tried zpool create ? =20 Regards =20 Graeme =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 10:31:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF8C1065673 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahamiltonwright@mta.ca) Received: from smtpx.mta.ca (smtpx.mta.ca [138.73.1.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724D98FC14 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qemg.mta.ca ([138.73.29.51]:49160 helo=qemg.org) by smtpx.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OsvSi-0002dl-DA; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:31:36 -0300 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:31:36 -0300 (ADT) From: "A. Wright" To: Bill Tillman In-Reply-To: <168438.41481.qm@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <168438.41481.qm@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: ahamiltonwright@mta.ca Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: NFS Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:31:38 -0000 On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Bill Tillman wrote: > I have two LAN segments with a FreeBSD server on each. > > Server A is 10.0.0.254 > Server B is 192.168.0.102 > > I setup server A has two drives and I setup a share on drive #2 to be shared via NFS with the both networks. I also made a symlink on drive #2 to a folder on drive #1 > > On server B I can nfs_mount the share on server A and see the symlink. But when I try to access the files in the symlink it shows the link is broken, In other words no files show up. > > On server A I can see the files in the symlink folder just fine. This is expected NFS behaviour: NFS exports filesystems starting at a given (exported) mount point. While there are many reasons for this, think about the security issues if a user on B could create a symlink on your exported volume (because the origin of the symlink will make no difference to the server) to access any file anywhere on A. If you want both disks 1 and 2 visible, the standard solution is to export and mount both disks on B. If the paths (absolute is easiest, but relative can be made to work) are consistent between A and the mounted image of A's filesystems on B, then your symlinks will work -- that is, if you have this kind of /etc/fstab entry, mounting "/disk1" on A to "/disk1" on B: A:/disk1/somedir /disk1/somedir A:/disk2 /disk2 then a symlink in /disk1/somedir/link pointing to /disk1/something will work just fine. A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 10:42:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCA510656D2 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 109E98FC21 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Sep 2010 10:42:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [91.140.122.2] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us004) with SMTP; 07 Sep 2010 06:42:19 -0400 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18du/5ZpoYd+xs7QGpAvsquPhB7AcQ8vtoQq6mXAj G4EVG3NXLHzn9n Message-ID: <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:41:52 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:42:21 -0000 On 9/7/2010 12:00 PM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Am I asking something unreasonable? Not really, but if you ask, one could say that IPFW is a "first match wins" firewall, so a fwd or an allow action would be the terminal one. You must design your rules accordingly. There is also the skipto action which can alter the way packets flow through the rules. Could you describe in a conrete example what you're trying to achieve? HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 10:56:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF7510656B2 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahamiltonwright@mta.ca) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132358FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qemg.mta.ca ([138.73.29.51]:49214 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OsvqY-00054V-FU; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:56:15 -0300 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:56:14 -0300 (ADT) From: "A. Wright" To: Bill Tillman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <168438.41481.qm@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: ahamiltonwright@mta.ca Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: NFS Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:56:21 -0000 On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, A. Wright wrote: > your symlinks will work -- that is, if you have this kind of > /etc/fstab entry, mounting "/disk1" on A to "/disk1" on B: > > A:/disk1/somedir /disk1/somedir > A:/disk2 /disk2 > > then a symlink in /disk1/somedir/link pointing to /disk1/something > will work just fine. That should have read: then a symlink in /disk1/somedir/link pointing to /disk2/something will work just fine A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 11:00:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556D81065696 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 11:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2B78FC1D for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 11:00:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14321797 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:00:40 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o87B0YKZ051731 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:00:40 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o87B0XZj051730 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:00:33 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:00:33 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:00:43 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >Am I asking something unreasonable? > > Not really, but if you ask, one could say that IPFW is a "first > match wins" firewall, so a fwd or an allow action would be the > terminal one. You must design your rules accordingly. > > There is also the skipto action which can alter the way packets > flow through the rules. > > Could you describe in a conrete example what you're trying to > achieve? I want forwarded packets to create a dynamic "allow" rule. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 13:43:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A2510656CF for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D939F8FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Sep 2010 13:43:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [91.140.122.2] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us004) with SMTP; 07 Sep 2010 09:43:04 -0400 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/AVXg4Z8bASaDlNAF/CP6ppYk7EIuRxoNxTEo5qA DvzzmE1zYqFqnK Message-ID: <4C864145.80805@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:42:29 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:43:07 -0000 On 9/7/2010 2:00 PM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >>> Am I asking something unreasonable? >> >> Not really, but if you ask, one could say that IPFW is a "first >> match wins" firewall, so a fwd or an allow action would be the >> terminal one. You must design your rules accordingly. >> >> There is also the skipto action which can alter the way packets >> flow through the rules. >> >> Could you describe in a conrete example what you're trying to >> achieve? > > I want forwarded packets to create a dynamic "allow" rule. > You can combine fwd and keep-state. Could you be more specific? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 13:57:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7169310656E0; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9F38FC18; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A4C99.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.76.153]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o87DPUJI060732; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:25:32 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o87DPNkv013861; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:25:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o87DP1lr036742; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:25:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201009071325.o87DP1lr036742@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Linux Unix Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/cv/ In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:10:13 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100706201011.GA94757@thought.org> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:25:01 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Gary Kline , Mark , rannumgen@globaleyes.net Subject: Re: enclosed: bwerror. i'm lost. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:57:21 -0000 I believe I have seen 3 occurences of same phenomena Gary K reported, maybe same thing as also mentioned by rannumgen@globaleyes.net which was subject of a PR kern/134914 closed Sat Jun 27 05:31:16 UTC 2009 by linimon@ I'm not clear whats going on yet, I too see the problem as self clearing on 2 of 3 hosts so far, (doesnt help to define it ;-) I wish I could make a clearer statement of fact, but I can't as yet. All I can do is join these 3 observations together so far. My ongoing notes are in http://berklix.org/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/src/gen/sys/boot/i386/\ Makefile.skip_broken_zfsboot.REL=7.3-RELEASE.diff Which contains all further URLs to mails PR etc. Before people ask me "What did you do to clear it ?" I ran my patch above, & after a make ; make install ; make world , whatever I then no longer needed my patch on the cured machine. If I could be clearer I would, but it goes away. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text, Not HTML, quoted-printable & base 64 dumped with spam. Avoid top posting, It cripples itemised cumulative responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 14:52:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8C910656E5 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772738FC13 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:52:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14323076 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:52:30 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o87EqNn7056145 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:52:30 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o87EqN6P056144 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:52:23 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:52:23 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100907145223.GA55660@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C864145.80805@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C864145.80805@gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:52:33 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >>>Am I asking something unreasonable? > >> > >>Not really, but if you ask, one could say that IPFW is a "first > >>match wins" firewall, so a fwd or an allow action would be the > >>terminal one. You must design your rules accordingly. > >> > >>There is also the skipto action which can alter the way packets > >>flow through the rules. > >> > >>Could you describe in a conrete example what you're trying to > >>achieve? > > > >I want forwarded packets to create a dynamic "allow" rule. > > > > You can combine fwd and keep-state. I hope so. I just don't understand how. > Could you be more specific? A packet generated locally 1) should be forwarded by a 'fwd' rule and 2) should create a dynamic 'allow' rule for returning traffic. Could you please suggest a ruleset for this. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 15:52:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728FC1065694 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Daniel.Willacy@sch-group.com) Received: from mail78.messagelabs.com (mail78.messagelabs.com [195.245.230.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658968FC08 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:51:58 +0000 (UTC) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Daniel.Willacy@sch-group.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-78.messagelabs.com!1283873072!31440016!25 X-StarScan-Version: 6.2.4; banners=sch-group.com,-,- X-Originating-IP: [80.86.35.198] Received: (qmail 27161 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2010 15:25:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pp13kapedge01.sch.com) (80.86.35.198) by server-12.tower-78.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Sep 2010 15:25:18 -0000 Received: from JH13KEXCHHUB01.sch.com (10.32.7.176) by pp13kapedge01.sch.com (10.10.11.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.213.0; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:25:42 +0100 Received: from EXCHANGE01.sch.com ([10.32.7.125]) by JH13KEXCHHUB01.sch.com ([10.32.7.176]) with mapi; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:24:49 +0100 From: Daniel Willacy To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:24:48 +0100 Thread-Topic: FreeBSD vendors Thread-Index: ActOoM74B82vqsK8Q5GHFzyjJG5c6w== Message-ID: <3871F13F8355D549BD762579BEDDC17E01120D19B752@EXCHANGE01.sch.com> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:52:00 -0000 Hi, I have a client who uses FreeBSD on IBM X3550 M3 Servers (x86). The proble= m is that they are big supporters of both IBM and FreeBSD but they do not = seem to work too well together. They are reporting problems at the RAID an= d hence, a massive slow down in performance. I notice from your vendor list that IBM is not mentioned. Is this because = your product hasn't been tested with IBM or are there any case studies or = models that you could provide to me to show that FreeBSD can work on certa= in IBM servers. Any advice or information would be greatly received. Thanks & best regards, Danny Danny Willacy Business Development Location: 710 Birchwood Boulevard, Birchwood, Warrington, WA3 7PS Mobile: +44 (0) 7872 544 203 e-mail: daniel.willacy@scc.com web: www.scc.com **************************************************************************= ****************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be privil= eged.=20 It is intended for the addressee only. 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B11 2LE.=20 VAT Registration Number is GB 313=206516 80 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 17:03:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575491065670 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189D08FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so6185883iwn.13 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:03:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=mOBxKhsDA6Nx5UVHY79N7z4Pq7xv2KrB3sXsv9Nl14Q=; b=sDaJffglFXVlG2nUJqYIWKD1s7DVkULwVI7F7LgCWp9JwE0t6swmCX/UCOjDi2V5x9 JmTXt/XaRSRa1qic9dG0UcjYLopEnAaJ2cGnYbzxGaFXTRHxhp1Hjxe6X3qIqQ0tT81h hXVF+OzWtw/fSQPfEicHS1Rr4PRarj+Ib3FsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=ItzKlZGcWgJTZVjavrMkUtw4MdYtZ1EJ0vmTBzndkvMhHKZNNMAlZ2YIPRi19wpZMP DWNq0D+P7JW/6e3KlMB+1AEweDswbJdBUaMGYoKh+8dajhZy9RnG+JX19N6gOD+irVsc NwpYia/Z3BI4x+6HKAwPGeQNT9OjCJ09PUD/M= Received: by 10.231.59.83 with SMTP id k19mr8189039ibh.178.1283877348816; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:35:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.182.146 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:35:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3871F13F8355D549BD762579BEDDC17E01120D19B752@EXCHANGE01.sch.com> References: <3871F13F8355D549BD762579BEDDC17E01120D19B752@EXCHANGE01.sch.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:35:27 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: onQo5wVkk2Byr6Tjdyn68ckLDMA Message-ID: To: Daniel Willacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:03:44 -0000 Exactly what make/model/firmware revision of RAID card are we talking about here? Can you also include a dmesg dump for the list's perusal? "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Daniel Willacy wrote: > Hi, > > I have a client who uses FreeBSD on IBM X3550 M3 Servers (x86). The problem > is that they are big supporters of both IBM and FreeBSD but they do not seem > to work too well together. They are reporting problems at the RAID and > hence, a massive slow down in performance. > > I notice from your vendor list that IBM is not mentioned. Is this because > your product hasn't been tested with IBM or are there any case studies or > models that you could provide to me to show that FreeBSD can work on certain > IBM servers. > > Any advice or information would be greatly received. > > Thanks & best regards, > > Danny > > Danny Willacy > Business Development > Location: 710 Birchwood Boulevard, Birchwood, Warrington, WA3 7PS > Mobile: +44 (0) 7872 544 203 > e-mail: daniel.willacy@scc.com > web: www.scc.com > > > > > ******************************************************************************************************** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be > privileged. > It is intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended > recipient, please delete > this e-mail immediately. The contents of this e-mail must not be > disclosed or copied > without the sender's consent. 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B11 2LE. > VAT Registration Number is GB 313 6516 80 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 18:26:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AC110656B0 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tg@gmplib.org) Received: from shell.gmplib.org (gmplib-02.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BB48FC17 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by shell.gmplib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5FDDC176F; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:26:06 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Torbjorn Granlund Sender: tg@gmplib.org Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:26:06 +0200 Message-ID: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:26:08 -0000 Is the any PCIe SAS controller that is supported by FreeBSD 8.1 that I can purchase today? The controller should preferably be low-profile. RAID is not needed since I have just one disk, but if only RAID controllers are available, I can live with that. FreeBSD supports several controllers, but most of them seems old and impossible to purchase today. I have tried a new Adaptec 2405 but I have serious issues with data inte- grity (the beginning of the virtualised disk does not read back the same data as just written). It is unknown if this is a problem with the cont- roller or with the FreeBSD drivers. Due to technical and administrative experiences with Adaptec during this process, no other Adaptec controller will be considered, see . The Supermicro controllers listed by FreeBSD as supported seem to be rebranded Adaptec controllers, and they are therefore also disqualified. The LSI controllers FreeBSD list as supported at (with the mpt driver) are no longer in production, as far as I can tell. My hope is that some currently produced LSI controllers actually work with FreeBSD 8.1. Please help if you know something about that. --=20 Torbj=F6rn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 19:46:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639B810656B1 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90058FC1C for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.63.247) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C74CA5401722EAB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:32 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o87JkPfo029682 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C869694.7090301@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:46:28 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100805 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> In-Reply-To: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:46:34 -0000 Il 09/07/10 20:26, Torbjorn Granlund ha scritto: > Is the any PCIe SAS controller that is supported by FreeBSD 8.1 that I > can purchase today? The controller should preferably be low-profile. > RAID is not needed since I have just one disk, but if only RAID > controllers are available, I can live with that. I have never seen a non-RAID SAS controller in my life: notice I'm not saying mean they don't exist, but everyone I used was RAID capable. That said, I'm using: Adaptec SAS RAID 3405 aac0@pci0:2:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x02bb9005 chip=0x02859005 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AAC-RAID RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID Adaptec SAS RAID 3805 aac0@pci0:4:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x02bc9005 chip=0x02859005 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AAC-RAID RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID Intel SRCSASJV mfi0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x10068086 chip=0x00601000 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' device = 'SAS1078 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS' class = mass storage subclass = RAID I've also used a couple of HPs in the past: I think it was a P400, but I don't have access to those machines any more. Never had any problems with any of these; only note: I could not get access to HP management via FreeBSD, but things might possibly have changed since then. N.B. I'm using 7.x, but I see no reason why 8.1 should be more troublesome. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 23:06:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1061F10656BB for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gvidals@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9270A8FC15 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3969694fxm.13 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=C0Un09HoLzn2MjFDsX08jFbEGqVJa5BR9a2SwUnGN48=; b=U4TuIWl6dKDFwDmpACyEzFXpKDLO3T5WzD+4PH0DqKGt3oSnpWrQh8RiUyAz3Q8Muk uchFej4A6cnCiZUrIm8ENR2XuI7lCfK58c0/F30u7rxo5I9NIfN8MXSD+3Pa7VXQoBr3 +Fb/9lDDlCux7IABlZyrOJzlSO3Af2HLTNZW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=Cg6XVHvB8aHe0u+2gxHfElzpdOoCPIp2dusX76/FgfcoJqL4gqvu21CG0iPZMxnBxi Neqyoe3KfYycj3HgRcpOxIC4nUQksEj31yExGEtA6Va2eXCRXXmCFUGFDhYVUnOxngYL kMzirEuNPmsgUpwd/ECI4AvFoICiUAOte1EDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.187.144 with SMTP id l16mr230712hbh.186.1283900812306; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.180.196 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:06:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Gil Vidals To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gil@vidals.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:06:54 -0000 The exact error message I get is: linker_load_file: Unsupported file type kldload: can't load zfs.ko: Exec format error. I would appreciate any additional guidance. In the meantime, Randal Schwartz was kind of enough to suggest PC-BSD, which includes an installer that supports ZFS, so I will check them out. --Gil Vidals On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Gil Vidals wrote: > >> Whenever If I used the standard install (UFS file system), I would always >> get an "unsupported file system" error whenever I tried to kldload zfs.ko. >> > > That doesn't seem like a logical error, the only occurrence of the > "unsupported file system" text in the src tree is in > /usr/src/sbin/ggate/shared/ggate.c. Can you be more specific about the > steps you are taking to reach this error, and it's exact message. > > Is there away to install FreeBSD on the standard UFS file system and then >> use the other disks on the server for ZFS? >> > > That's a very common approach. > > -- > Adam Vande More > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 7 23:33:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B9C1065693 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57F38FC12 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so3982405fxm.13 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=D+pPbwLpQRbtRfJ8vgqvRSXZ6j9ImxxvOKAZSr8Jq2U=; b=CkZUFjjVqxtMUzX+JVozYDy6i61m6efvH1XnhdnratdtN8oVEr0iGASe9o2CEgoGfY T8yYqMzFDT1o/iGqdTcesQ7FpVnWYpQYpoD2+D12W7hLsfEDd4CkNOuElmt9ZidgfWe3 okbPFyq2rT2AMfOd1puzKOcOj+UtQ7nE1VFwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JVYQkrbg62cZ3d6Fss/jnumpFvOC9vK2vEDn00kt/EFeBHKZH3E3FpaI2yn/7/x8r1 AX7QGMgVuSarcCNRG7dKBEb8F4rjwTrtjDf8oBsb4yFX8EE5gBEcQUjHRjLN0/JaFBvT WG7vUHqIpvxJ6Eor5i498Wu6CyC4mc71/0nPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.112.202 with SMTP id x10mr70748fap.51.1283902423753; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:33:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: gil@vidals.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs enabled freebsd requires root zfs partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:33:45 -0000 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Gil Vidals wrote: > The exact error message I get is: > > linker_load_file: Unsupported file type > kldload: can't load zfs.ko: Exec format error. > > I would appreciate any additional guidance. In the meantime, Randal > Schwartz was kind of enough to suggest PC-BSD, which includes an installer > that supports ZFS, so I will check them out. > Well that error makes a lot more sense, but doesn't pinpoint the exact cause. I don't know what this is: zfsinstall.sh It's not part of the base system. Without more info, my best guess is that your zfs module is out of sync with your kernel. Two things you can do, install a clean FreeBSD, and just use zfs from there. It works. Or resync the kernel/modules by rebuilding them. Make sure your src tree is in sync, eg csup with RELENG_8_1 or whatever you're trying to run Follow these instructions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html Just rebuild with GENERIC to make sure no other vars are interfering. That means don't use the KERNCONF=MYKERNEL part of the line or at least set it to GENERIC. Once you have installed the new kernel, reboot and kldload zfs should work. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 00:58:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9113B10656AA for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6310F8FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o880uIkA002196; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:56:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:56:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009080056.o880uIkA002196@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bernt@bah.homeip.net, drew@mykitchentable.net Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:58:15 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 7 14:24:56 2010 > Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:01:40 +0200 > From: Bernt Hansson > To: Drew Tomlinson > Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail > > 2010-09-06 19:46, Drew Tomlinson skrev: > > On 9/5/2010 4:02 PM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >> Frank Shute wrote: > >> > >>> Drew, try this: > >>> > >>> * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com > >>> > >>> I think it's not catching it because the period isn't backslash > >>> escaped ... > >> Unless there's some edge case that I'm not thinking of, adding a > >> backslash to escape a period will never convert a non-match into > >> a match. An unescaped period in an RE matches any character, > >> including a period. An escaped period matches only a period. > > > > I have confirmed this. I did add the backslash but procmail is still not > > matching. > > > >> Adding the backslash _does_ better represent what the OP wants > >> to accomplish, but the lack of it is not the cause of the RE not > >> matching. (I'm not sufficiently familiar with how procmail uses > >> REs to figure out what _is_ causing it not to match.) > > > > True and thus I'll leave the backslash. However I have no idea what _is_ > > causing it not to match either. I'm stumped. > > I think it is the dash. Nope. dashes are 'special' *ONLY within a 'character class' (i.e., within square brackets). > Try to escape it like so: > > * ^From:.*famous\-smoke\.com > Z. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 01:47:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E7010656C9 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 01:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866A48FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 01:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35so2456682yxn.13 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.131.7 with SMTP id i7mr135714ybn.281.1283910423570; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:47:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.135 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:43 -0400 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:47:04 -0000 When I attempt to use the if_bwn driver I get the following messages: Is my card not supported or am I missing a step or is it something else? siba_bwn0: mem 0xf4700000-0xf4703fff irq 1 8 at device 0.0 on pci4 bwn0 on siba_bwn0 bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4312 rev 15) PHY (analog 6 type 5 rev 1) RADIO (manuf 0x17f ver 0x2062 rev 2) bwn0: DMA (64 bits) bwn0: Using 1 MSI messages bwn0: [FILTER] wlan0: Ethernet address: 00:21:00:e7:75:20 bwn_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2 bwn0: the fw file(bwn_v4_lp_ucode15) not found bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2 bwn0: the fw file(bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15) not found -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 02:25:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DA910656B6 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf01.insightbb.com (mxsf01.insightbb.com [74.128.0.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306168FC1A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:25:05 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,331,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="958966269" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2010 22:25:04 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj88AJ6QhkxKgCiCPGdsb2JhbACDGYRSi3WNLQwBAQEBNS2vU5F7gSKDJ3QE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,331,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="381590805" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 07 Sep 2010 22:25:04 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 22:24:57 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009072224.58398.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:25:06 -0000 On Tuesday 07 September 2010 21:46:43 Eitan Adler wrote: > When I attempt to use the if_bwn driver I get the following messages: > > Is my card not supported or am I missing a step or is it something else? > > > siba_bwn0: mem 0xf4700000-0xf4703fff > irq 1 8 at device 0.0 on pci4 > bwn0 on siba_bwn0 > bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4312 rev 15) PHY (analog 6 type 5 rev 1) RADIO (manuf > 0x17f ver 0x2062 rev 2) > bwn0: DMA (64 bits) > bwn0: Using 1 MSI messages > bwn0: [FILTER] > wlan0: Ethernet address: 00:21:00:e7:75:20 > bwn_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2 > bwn0: the fw file(bwn_v4_lp_ucode15) not found > bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2 > bwn0: the fw file(bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15) not found You need a package or port of: bwn-firmware-kmod-0.1.0 Broadcom AirForce IEEE 802.11 Firmware Kernel Module From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 02:42:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4055C10656D0 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redlamb@redlamb.net) Received: from ironhide.redlamb.net (ironhide.redlamb.net [216.17.90.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1098FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ironhide.redlamb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59078396C3 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:25:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ironhide.redlamb.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ironhide.redlamb.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01620-06 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ironhide.redlamb.net (Postfix, from userid 80) id B921937C17; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from c-66-41-185-162.hsd1.mn.comcast.net (c-66-41-185-162.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [66.41.185.162]) by imp.redlamb.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:25:01 -0500 Message-ID: <20100907212501.gt31sgaog0w4g4ko@imp.redlamb.net> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:25:01 -0500 From: Pete Erickson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) Subject: Exporting ZFS Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:42:01 -0000 I'm relatively new to ZFS and have been playing around with different =20 file-backed set ups to determine how I will eventually configure my =20 pools. I've recently come across a problem with exporting a pool, but =20 I'm not sure if it's a bug or just my poor understanding of ZFS. I =20 create a simple pool using 2 128MB files. After exporting the pool, I =20 am unable to import it and the pool is not found by the zpool command. =20 Any advise would be appreciated. I'm currently running 8.1 STABLE. ratchet# dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/disk1.dd bs=3D1m count=3D128 128+0 records in 128+0 records out 134217728 bytes transferred in 2.852547 secs (47051891 bytes/sec) ratchet# dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3Ddisk2.dd bs=3D1m count=3D128 128+0 records in 128+0 records out 134217728 bytes transferred in 2.740976 secs (48967128 bytes/sec) ratchet# zpool create pool /usr/tmp/disk1.dd /usr/tmp/disk2.dd ratchet# zpool list NAME SIZE USED AVAIL CAP HEALTH ALTROOT pool 246M 75K 246M 0% ONLINE - ratchet# zpool status pool: pool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: =09NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM =09pool ONLINE 0 0 0 =09 /usr/tmp/disk1.dd ONLINE 0 0 0 =09 /usr/tmp/disk2.dd ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors ratchet# zpool export pool ratchet# zpool import -d . If I then attempt to recreate the pool, I get an error indicating that =20 one of the files is a part of an exported pool. ratchet# zpool create z /usr/tmp/disk1.dd /usr/tmp/disk2.dd invalid vdev specification use '-f' to override the following errors: /usr/tmp/disk1.dd is part of exported pool 'pool' --=20 Pete Erickson redlamb _at_ redlamb _dot_ net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 05:48:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E4D10656CF for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 05:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB43F8FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 05:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A8F628420; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 01:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C8723C2.6030002@cyberleo.net> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:48:50 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100710 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrea Venturoli References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <4C869694.7090301@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4C869694.7090301@netfence.it> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:48:53 -0000 On 09/07/2010 02:46 PM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Il 09/07/10 20:26, Torbjorn Granlund ha scritto: >> Is the any PCIe SAS controller that is supported by FreeBSD 8.1 that I >> can purchase today? The controller should preferably be low-profile. >> RAID is not needed since I have just one disk, but if only RAID >> controllers are available, I can live with that. > > I have never seen a non-RAID SAS controller in my life: notice I'm not > saying mean they don't exist, but everyone I used was RAID capable. I'm currently using a Perc5i PCIe 2-port SAS controller in production on 7.2-RELEASE amd64. It's whatever came with the Dell PowerEdge 1950 I'm running, and it's been rock-solid; no RAID capabilities at all, but hosts a gmirror just fine. It identifies as such: mpt0@pci0:2:8:0: class=0x010000 card=0x1f061028 chip=0x00541000 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' device = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with 1068 -StorPort' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 06:20:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8BE1065672 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 06:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79918FC13 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 06:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EAEF928420; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C872B17.3020606@cyberleo.net> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:20:07 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100710 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete Erickson References: <20100907212501.gt31sgaog0w4g4ko@imp.redlamb.net> In-Reply-To: <20100907212501.gt31sgaog0w4g4ko@imp.redlamb.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exporting ZFS Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:20:10 -0000 On 09/07/2010 09:25 PM, Pete Erickson wrote: > I'm relatively new to ZFS and have been playing around with different > file-backed set ups to determine how I will eventually configure my > pools. I've recently come across a problem with exporting a pool, but > I'm not sure if it's a bug or just my poor understanding of ZFS. I > create a simple pool using 2 128MB files. After exporting the pool, I am > unable to import it and the pool is not found by the zpool command. Any > advise would be appreciated. I'm currently running 8.1 STABLE. Curious, neither can I (8.1-RELEASE): (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ truncate -s 256m d1 d2 (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool create pool /tmp/zp/d1 /tmp/zp/d2 (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ zpool status pool pool: pool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM pool ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/zp/d1 ONLINE 0 0 0 /tmp/zp/d2 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool export pool (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool import -d . pool: pool id: 16288839965492350952 state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices are missing from the system. action: The pool cannot be imported. Attach the missing devices and try again. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-6X config: pool UNAVAIL missing device /tmp/zp/d1 ONLINE Additional devices are known to be part of this pool, though their exact configuration cannot be determined. > If I then attempt to recreate the pool, I get an error indicating that > one of the files is a part of an exported pool. > > ratchet# zpool create z /usr/tmp/disk1.dd /usr/tmp/disk2.dd > invalid vdev specification > use '-f' to override the following errors: > /usr/tmp/disk1.dd is part of exported pool 'pool' 'zpool create' starts over from scratch, and will destroy all data on the target devices; thus, it warns you if it detects that they are part of an old pool. You must tell it that you intend to obliterate the old pool to create a fresh new one. This is intentional. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 08:00:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C525C10656AB; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A248FC15; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8880B4B009668; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:00:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8880AZj009667; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:00:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:00:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201009080800.o8880AZj009667@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, web@umich.edu, steve@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-x11 User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:00:27 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: SOLVED: serious (for me) Xorg 7.5 mouse/kbd problem in 8.1-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, web@umich.edu, steve@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:00:28 -0000 William Bulley wrote: > See below for details of solution. > [...] > This problem is known (and fixed) in newer versions of xorg-server. > > See this URL for details of the problem. > > > > I have also attached the changes I made to the dit/events.c file. Thank you very much for sharing the solution! I've been having similar problems with olvwm recently (apart from the fact that it doesn't work on amd64, but that's a different story). It keeps forgetting grabs every now and then, forcing me to restart the session. The description at the above URL sounds like it should be applicable to my problem, too. I'm going to rebuild my X server with that patch ASAP. I wish all of the recent xorg problems would be that easy to fix (such as Ctrl-Alt-Fx not working anymore). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Above all, they contribute to the genetic diversity in the operating system pool. Which is a good thing." -- Ruben van Staveren, on the question which BSD OS is the best one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 08:48:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E610510656D6 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tg@gmplib.org) Received: from shell.gmplib.org (gmplib-02.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A674C8FC12 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by shell.gmplib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 613DA677D; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:48:26 +0200 (CEST) To: Matthias Gamsjager References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> From: Torbjorn Granlund Sender: tg@gmplib.org Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:48:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Matthias Gamsjager's message of "Wed\, 8 Sep 2010 10\:20\:39 +0200") Message-ID: <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:48:28 -0000 Matthias Gamsjager writes: > > The Supermicro controllers listed by FreeBSD as supported seem to be > rebranded Adaptec controllers, and they are therefore also disqualified. > =20=20 The supermicro usas-l8i http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under FB8.1 =20=20 Thanks. Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards. (I have a Tyan S8005.) --=20 Torbj=F6rn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 08:48:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E46210656EB for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgamsjager@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5E38FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so6562266qyk.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:48:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ahwY3lxOT5t1UoSoJRpqK1wrhkLmSuygCQvvkTC1cAg=; b=SoqCUemHHxwr2YwyHif/megsK+h3V3lVaispsqeEhcekXc3j5db3WtjrlauAamrJVH AIB4atxJ7uvmaA/MiSpx3Jtb2SJEUWddY0vhIc49AkfMQumMpU8qXJ/bqaRsqOwDYaI0 zGvmuk4WWu4YsTMIs6t5ukvIsM2hSWAeBz+ak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=e/Bysm/Qn60QD0sqXs1WYR/OOmRydxRW5UleTQ/xW+6877m+n2H9Rn9H2qpCBz7p0V hEvJgM4qEhzI8zMKJuO4fcjUO9ROR5YO/w/N6xJeNave5mv2uUzOZyDRkQWQM70bp5Oh u9McX97af1OHpmeCvfl7b9JMwXTZ5cjoLv1Vc= Received: by 10.224.3.3 with SMTP id 3mr391830qal.33.1283934069306; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:21:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.213 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 01:20:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:20:39 +0200 Message-ID: To: Torbjorn Granlund Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:48:59 -0000 > > The Supermicro controllers listed by FreeBSD as supported seem to be > rebranded Adaptec controllers, and they are therefore also disqualified. > The supermicro usas-l8i http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under FB8.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 08:56:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FAE10656C0 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgamsjager@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE908FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so5937156qwg.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:56:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2scXeRD4VbeM4rwsCFiIl4WWZxX0baqEGgiw7zpMnFk=; b=AjzJzrzk7k7g7m7BR1+iN1YK60wQdOFumwZZvmfa1ZVdc+upxJsX1nM45N7yla4F+M AjU1MiSdEQBQ6Go3rMRTbHV+Sj4SoWKuugoQ6x+N8mPodcBQllbVJMsT0c4LyBoCluCw 2nSyYAPgCQ00TpL2qPIZtxmOmsNtj7JptVQfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wFYEovJ7zY6FHoh+DcL6wBjzYHk20NdSLH2rHeqZUn7PdWeyzAQBobmJjBsUDQTmAE Yf+yjfYaA+jgEXlUckarZG/9oih3r4xOFIF79gWWzEZeC+/bCjqhMu4azb0XQOvsaMSa ZD/HgwG/dH1znb/J7q/M+kfjScDZuyz/d2sW8= Received: by 10.229.182.84 with SMTP id cb20mr848738qcb.126.1283936177163; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:56:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.213 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 01:55:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:55:47 +0200 Message-ID: To: Torbjorn Granlund Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:56:18 -0000 > > Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since > they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards. > > (I have a Tyan S8005.) > > -- > Torbj=F6rn Well it's just the bracket. You can unmount it and replace it with another bracket. The card is up side down thats true but thats all. Works in every pci-e 8 slot. You can order a replacement bracket for couple of bucks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 09:01:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDFE1065695 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4958FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F0E2234D447; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:45:48 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:45:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.5.1; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Browser choices & flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:01:31 -0000 Hi One of our freebsd systems is a user terminal with desktop. We have constant difficulties with web browsing on that platform. Here is the data 1. INFO: System: freebsd 7.2-RELEASE-p3 - GENERIC amd64 Desktop: kde4.5.1 Current installed web browser stuff: konqueror 4.5.1 epiphany-2.30.2_1 firefox-3.5.11,1 flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.13_5 A GPL standalone Flash (TM) plugin for Mozilla web browser kwebkitpart-0.9.6.b1_1 Web browser component for KDE based on QtWebKit links-0.98,1 Lynx-like text WWW browser seamonkey-2.0.6 The open source, standards compliant web browser w3m-0.5.2_4 A pager/text-based WWW browser webkit-gtk2-1.2.3 An opensource browser engine 2. PROBLEMS Frequent crashing of all available browsers - seems to be flash related. 3. ADVICE PLEASE Most reliable browser combination and recomendations of specific port combinations which can deliver reliable browsing including flash capability. Thanks in advance Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 09:11:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7551065694 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgamsjager@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0A98FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so5947791qwg.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:11:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vAz4ijukTMH1EDkxbdhspBzGcqwQlxy++nbBTCI1L8Y=; b=BTunYhX2SwmFwBuaBeLVNE6v4xGVBenj5BaANGT0Exsd2Q6400IG2TDVrGRgiGTEag nA3ZPoprUnPfxKEj4TcA33fsnd5D5+bJlEOPHt2kXss5ZwGJBodFNV9u2C9YhhtOztRC sLSXpppr7lYegLwBdsYFXmibeIZ36PxLGImPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n9/0Ahf5+5RAf+XKoN03qAMzAC5tYh08p1AFMjpN/EbEQ11lM6mrocKuHoEbgJe2yc JacZtfnSlwltwnxbpmPBUqhfA1sh9ooXnN4FfUcS17Ss35Q+ALUJj3Q8n56GL6Oji1Oy L0ySBGvaO87ec+UiOM3Nbru3etD6zVKGHk/9w= Received: by 10.224.54.134 with SMTP id q6mr785190qag.377.1283937069624; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:11:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.213 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:10:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:10:39 +0200 Message-ID: To: Torbjorn Granlund Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:11:11 -0000 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since >> they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards. >> >> (I have a Tyan S8005.) >> >> -- >> Torbj=F6rn > > Well it's just the bracket. You can unmount it and replace it with > another bracket. The card is up side down thats true but thats all. > Works in every pci-e 8 slot. You can order a replacement bracket for > couple of bucks. > The bracket I was talking about: http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org/msg38227.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 09:18:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF79F10656B4 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 713DD8FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Sep 2010 09:18:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [91.140.122.2] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us002) with SMTP; 08 Sep 2010 05:18:37 -0400 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/KuNFccD/KHFhzI04J47H4varlamEt55HsgnZUE4 Vx7JYF3AVZZ9Qs Message-ID: <4C8754CD.6030003@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:18:05 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C864145.80805@gmx.com> <20100907145223.GA55660@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20100907145223.GA55660@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:18:39 -0000 On 9/7/2010 5:52 PM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > A packet generated locally 1) should be forwarded by a 'fwd' > rule and 2) should create a dynamic 'allow' rule for returning > traffic. Could you please suggest a ruleset for this. The fw has the 10.0.0.1 IP address. The 10.0.0.100 IP address belongs to another computer running a TCP service at 9999. The IPFW rules: > fw# ipfw list > 00100 fwd 10.0.0.100 tcp from any to 10.90.10.3 dst-port 9999 keep-state > 00200 deny ip from any to any > 65535 allow ip from any to any Trying to connect to TCP 9998 fails because of rule 200: > fw# nc -v 10.90.10.3 9998 > nc: connect to 10.90.10.3 port 9998 (tcp) failed: Permission denied While trying to connect to TCP 9999 succeeds and creates a IPFW state: > fw# nc -v 10.90.10.3 9999 > Connection to 10.90.10.3 9999 port [tcp/*] succeeded! > ^Z > Suspended > fw# ipfw -d show > 00100 61 3315 fwd 10.0.0.100 tcp from any to 10.90.10.3 dst-port 9999 keep-state > 00200 45 2644 deny ip from any to any > 65535 0 0 allow ip from any to any > ## Dynamic rules (9): > 00100 2 112 (292s) STATE tcp 10.0.0.1 27320 <-> 10.90.10.3 9999 > fw# HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 09:30:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD3E10656A8 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashukaul@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B606A8FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so5758090vws.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:30:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2aRS/xJu4hT5moUH4yfz2/9ti9jUR9jgWfYU5wh/Gwc=; b=gRfOJ+ziQ7/oSS/uzpKFI3UYeOuT/682b//er06VEctOEKsD6vXSLoW6eOszORCs1d kF1QZiDNLtaoBm+p6LnZbcJhNSmAZM995OWR7Dh0t3lXQt/a5PohKKFgjicIZkVkf5g2 4Xav8uS7qo2+RF+Y6Wm84GmNw/Qm6Dee5+288= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=pW1iiU8V76tz4ORW8tjj+NxfPl9BCiWlRE91AC+3uqSXgr01FkctxUc4EPH174LVX7 yKqOyf9AuU+663eFEQDya7oVTlo0biiWbwrSqR+iLYzqTxZtleebs2VscH9Swmwdrn1I W1reqRGwdNsRdOWWW0BNfnlsp+HZGZ4DWJqN4= Received: by 10.220.127.93 with SMTP id f29mr139480vcs.127.1283936754910; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:05:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.186.69 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:05:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ashutosh Kaul Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:35:34 +0530 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:14:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Fwd: Problem :System getting hung @ Trying to mount root /dev/.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:30:10 -0000 Julian, told me to forward it to this group.. I would appreciate any help in this regard thanks, ashu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ashutosh Kaul Date: Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:58 AM Subject: Problem :System getting hung @ Trying to mount root /dev/.... To: freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org Hi All,, First I Apologize if this would be not the right forum to ask this question.I have a Freebsd 6.4 running system with disk mirrored on a HP DL . Now I am pulling one hard disk from the Server and putting in the first slot of the Second Server.(Trying to build the exact replica) The 2nd servers boots up perfectly fine but it get stuck @ "Trying to Mount root /dev/" When I try to run it in single user mode. It gives me a shell and when I run 'fsck' the keyboard just hangs and I have to hard boot the system again. Any pointers what I may be doing wrong ? Appreciate your help. regards, Ashu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 11:46:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6682310656B6 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240B78FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 07:46:54 -0400 Received: from mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.54]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id ALB85817; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:46:53 -0400 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 07:46:53 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19591.30637.289885.767759@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:46:53 -0400 To: David Southwell In-Reply-To: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> References: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Browser choices & flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:46:55 -0000 David Southwell writes: > One of our freebsd systems is a user terminal with desktop. We > have constant difficulties with web browsing on that > platform. Here is the data > 2. PROBLEMS > Frequent crashing of all available browsers - seems to be flash related. > > 3. ADVICE PLEASE > Most reliable browser combination and recomendations of specific > port combinations which can deliver reliable browsing including > flash capability. What "works" for me - doesn't crash, but sometimes can't handle the content - is: firefox-3.6.8 (or) seamonkey-2.0.6 nspluginwrapper-1.2.2_7 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r82 installed per the Handbook. A minor annoyance is the wrapper doesn't exit cleanly and tends to leave hung jobs; not noticeable resource sink, until you have 20+ of them .... Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 13:07:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B24710656D9 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163E68FC0C for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OtKN7-0000BH-Gi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:07:30 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o88D7SbM004929 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:07:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o88D7SDJ004928 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:07:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:07:28 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100908130728.GA4909@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: ports: customer database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:07:34 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for something which can be used as a small customer database to store: name, contacts, system environment, comments; it should be managed via browser; is the something in the ports or some other Open Source, ready for FreeBSD (before building something by my own based on GNATS, for example). Any ideas? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 13:44:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B527C10656BF for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fortezza@mechanicalism.net) Received: from mail.mechanicalism.net (alderaan.mechanicalism.net [69.56.179.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFD18FC13 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.mechanicalism.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0AF011C082A; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:29:11 -0500 From: Jason Fortezzo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100908132911.GA29019@alderaan.mechanicalism.net> References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:44:45 -0000 On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:20:39AM +0200, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > The supermicro usas-l8i > http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm > uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under > FB8.1 FYI, I bought one for my Supermicro X7SB3 motherboard and it didn't work. I had to end up buying an Intel SASUC8I which is just an OEM LSI SAS3081E-R. -- Jason Fortezzo fortezza@mechanicalism.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:13:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DA010656EE for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa14.ono.com (smtp14.ono.com [62.42.230.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A66B8FC0A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (193.146.183.225) by resmaa14.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4C593D22004F841A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:33:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4C593D22004F841A@> (added by postmaster@resmaa14.ono.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:01:08 +0200 From: Eduardo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:13:09 -0000 On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:48:26 +0200 Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > Matthias Gamsjager writes: > > > > > The Supermicro controllers listed by FreeBSD as supported seem to > > be rebranded Adaptec controllers, and they are therefore also > > disqualified. > > > > The supermicro usas-l8i > http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm > uses a LSI chip (LSISAS 1068E SAS controller ) and works great under > FB8.1 > > Thanks. > > Unfortunately, these cards fit just in supermicro motherboards, since > they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards. > > (I have a Tyan S8005.) > Don't know why they do that. But be careful because HTX/HNC (Hypertransport) connections are the same as PCIe but reversed and incompatible, check it before plugin anything. HTX is used to connect 2 motherboards via hypertransport (up to 51.2 GB/sec for now), connect expansion cards, etc... http://www.hypertransport.org/ http://www.hypertransport.org/default.cfm?page=ProductsHTXProducts HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:17:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99E410656D0 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgamsjager@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FDE8FC12 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so4877149qyk.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:17:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=UwOXpdC5/nrollrOZ48Omq3AOvrr4Az/TsxjbLY5nyw=; b=AydixFaKNUv6mSfQNUrOOOeTqwhRaBn6my0SULJnfgf6Le6Rn/NER0tNP+kIfVZ/ds L2CBa/Cq4DxFXf1idd+Qg6kvW6co2zz0VNzCE79SiwiaDTIXrAcYRj9zxOwVwawBYoya IYJ35lRD9cKOpDVsje6E6ty2IIovP9K9dvkA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=ZAqYTbgXqOgQ/cfUeO1mR4b0cyESrwLo+721GrGoHIIFelp24fmBPU911AMpyNrzMb 47zcLsG72+7UnC2i6MickAxf+1vEg1jx7xTLNrPhQ9m0qExzYrH1neWghzGqgkre+t+k aR33mfyeD2Kbwxm4rEK+r8BN+IMij68zUajZM= Received: by 10.229.240.145 with SMTP id la17mr2417510qcb.75.1283955440590; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:17:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.213 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:16:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100908132911.GA29019@alderaan.mechanicalism.net> References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <20100908132911.GA29019@alderaan.mechanicalism.net> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:16:50 +0200 Message-ID: To: Jason Fortezzo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:17:21 -0000 > > FYI, I bought one for my Supermicro X7SB3 motherboard and it didn't work. > I had to end up buying an Intel SASUC8I which is just an OEM LSI > SAS3081E- hmm strange because I have one running right here with the MPT driver. even mptutils works with it. And if you google it then you will find couple of positive reactions. Check the freebsd forums. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:22:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87AE1065694 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817FF8FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so44117gyg.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.99.3 with SMTP id b3mr61316ybm.97.1283955724457; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:22:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:21:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009072224.58398.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201009072224.58398.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:21:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:22:05 -0000 On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Steven Friedrich w= rote: > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 21:46:43 Eitan Adler wrote: >> When I attempt to use the if_bwn driver I get the following messages: >> >> Is my card not supported or am I missing a step or is it something else? >> ... > You need a package or port of: > =C2=A0bwn-firmware-kmod-0.1.0 Broadcom AirForce IEEE 802.11 Firmware Kern= el Module > The closest port I find is net/bwi-firmware-kmod # locate bwn-|grep ports|wc -l 0 When I searched for firmware using make quicksearch key=3D"firmware" I found net/bwn-firmware-kmod but it does not exist ls -lao /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:22:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4796010656A7 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgamsjager@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AAB8FC1C for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so42659qwg.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:22:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=tJUqns+Uzky2GE0SAcfe4Clu+SoKOZYy0O36BMjPWo4=; b=AIsEBngjX/mQyeptsNvdJSoyeF+aVjuY8QC2u8YQOPVvOWOZTmxiXYW4gE2LikCcls i+2XbUTe5AwgAEDGwJvuCuSJ26K9abv9SP2lEvjOAZ4pxyHfkTYNNrzquVqx4bKBZjrq m3aY3r1jbemx6f5c+b8an5wIc1xA2bqLWuIVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=dU8Rh0DJTi5SW9ZXDWdHAR7XoTuvKhtHc4BoUHf05c9R7lx3gZdHguFR8MS9KrLv2l 9Y0o7MJhjSjgniAWZm6C2nuBm47MEsKpr+0DzsKulSK6RNhqCxWEHl7kyvVPwGNeN2ak ov2POHYAEoppjqjzzudeTDfMgcEQzWEKivY54= Received: by 10.224.64.167 with SMTP id e39mr398695qai.271.1283955774201; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:22:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.213 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:22:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7400470299185520142@unknownmsgid> References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <7400470299185520142@unknownmsgid> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:22:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: Eduardo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:22:55 -0000 > Don't know why they do that. But be careful because HTX/HNC > (Hypertransport) connections are the same as PCIe but reversed > and incompatible, check it before plugin anything. > > HTX is used to connect 2 motherboards via hypertransport (up to 51.2 > GB/sec for now), connect expansion cards, etc... Well I think most users will see what is a HTX slot and what is a pci-e8 slot. And if you dont then check your motherboard manual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:36:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA90910656E8 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redlamb@redlamb.net) Received: from ironhide.redlamb.net (ironhide.redlamb.net [216.17.90.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BAC8FC0A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ironhide.redlamb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210443976E; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:36:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ironhide.redlamb.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ironhide.redlamb.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07144-02; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ironhide.redlamb.net (Postfix, from userid 80) id 56A273972A; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 63.231.238.145 ([63.231.238.145]) by imp.redlamb.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: <20100908093648.1vt3q2ut4wkk0g0g@imp.redlamb.net> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:36:48 -0500 From: Pete Erickson To: CyberLeo Kitsana References: <20100907212501.gt31sgaog0w4g4ko@imp.redlamb.net> <4C872B17.3020606@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4C872B17.3020606@cyberleo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exporting ZFS Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:36:49 -0000 On Wed Sep 8 01:20:07 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 09/07/2010 09:25 PM, Pete Erickson wrote: >> I'm relatively new to ZFS and have been playing around with different >> file-backed set ups to determine how I will eventually configure my >> pools. I've recently come across a problem with exporting a pool, but >> I'm not sure if it's a bug or just my poor understanding of ZFS. I >> create a simple pool using 2 128MB files. After exporting the pool, I am >> unable to import it and the pool is not found by the zpool command. Any >> advise would be appreciated. I'm currently running 8.1 STABLE. > > Curious, neither can I (8.1-RELEASE): > > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ truncate -s 256m d1 d2 > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool create pool /tmp/zp/d1 > /tmp/zp/d2 > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ zpool status pool > pool: pool > state: ONLINE > scrub: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > pool ONLINE 0 0 0 > /tmp/zp/d1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > /tmp/zp/d2 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > errors: No known data errors > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool export pool > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool import -d . > pool: pool > id: 16288839965492350952 > state: UNAVAIL > status: One or more devices are missing from the system. > action: The pool cannot be imported. Attach the missing > devices and try again. > see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-6X > config: > > pool UNAVAIL missing device > /tmp/zp/d1 ONLINE > > Additional devices are known to be part of this pool, though their > exact configuration cannot be determined. I have received this error several times as well... it appears to be =20 very inconsistent. I feel better that I'm not the only one having this =20 problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:41:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D786110656A7 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf00.insightbb.com (mxsf00.insightbb.com [74.128.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19308FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:41:38 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="903765324" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 10:41:25 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmU/ANM9h0xKgCiCO2dsb2JhbACDGZBIjTEMAQEBARkcLa1pkSKBIoMndAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="159687327" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 10:41:22 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:41:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009072224.58398.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009081041.21361.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:41:38 -0000 On Wednesday 08 September 2010 10:21:44 Eitan Adler wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 21:46:43 Eitan Adler wrote: > >> When I attempt to use the if_bwn driver I get the following messages: > >> > >> Is my card not supported or am I missing a step or is it something else? > > ... > > > You need a package or port of: > > bwn-firmware-kmod-0.1.0 Broadcom AirForce IEEE 802.11 Firmware Kernel > > Module > > The closest port I find is > > net/bwi-firmware-kmod > > > # locate bwn-|grep ports|wc -l > 0 > > When I searched for firmware using make quicksearch key="firmware" I > found net/bwn-firmware-kmod but it does not exist > > ls -lao /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod > ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=bwn-firmware-kmod+&stype=all You should have a directory under /usr/ports/net named bwn-firmware-kmod. If you don't, then you need to update your ports skeleton. You should also be able to just use a package, like: pkg_fetch bwn-firmware-kmod or with portupgrade -N bwn-firmware-kmod HTH. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:44:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF3310656B3 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf11.insightbb.com (mxsf11.insightbb.com [74.128.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784FD8FC15 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="198606003" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf11.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 10:44:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnBBAIY+h0xKgCiCO2dsb2JhbACDGYRSi3aNMQwBAQEBGRwtrVqRIoEigyd0BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="42692579" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 10:44:42 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:44:40 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009072224.58398.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009081044.41114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:44:43 -0000 On Wednesday 08 September 2010 10:21:44 Eitan Adler wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 21:46:43 Eitan Adler wrote: > >> When I attempt to use the if_bwn driver I get the following messages: > >> > >> Is my card not supported or am I missing a step or is it something else? > > ... > > > You need a package or port of: > > bwn-firmware-kmod-0.1.0 Broadcom AirForce IEEE 802.11 Firmware Kernel > > Module > > The closest port I find is > > net/bwi-firmware-kmod > > > # locate bwn-|grep ports|wc -l > 0 > > When I searched for firmware using make quicksearch key="firmware" I > found net/bwn-firmware-kmod but it does not exist > > ls -lao /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod > ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory I'm sorry, I read your post too quickly and missed where you clearly stated the problem. You said: > ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory This indicates that you need to update your ports tree. Do you know how? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:50:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8027510656D7 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520FB8FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so91409iwn.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.79 with SMTP id bd15mr2109047ibb.151.1283957425995; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:50:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:49:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009081044.41114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201009072224.58398.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <201009081044.41114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:50:27 -0000 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Steven Friedrich w= rote: > On Wednesday 08 September 2010 10:21:44 Eitan Adler wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Steven Friedrich > wrote: >> > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 21:46:43 Eitan Adler wrote: >> >> When I attempt to use the if_bwn driver I get the following messages: >> >> >> >> Is my card not supported or am I missing a step or is it something el= se? >> >> ... >> >> > You need a package or port of: >> > =C2=A0bwn-firmware-kmod-0.1.0 Broadcom AirForce IEEE 802.11 Firmware K= ernel >> > Module >> >> The closest port I find is >> >> net/bwi-firmware-kmod >> >> >> # locate bwn-|grep ports|wc -l >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 >> >> When I searched for firmware using make quicksearch key=3D"firmware" I >> found net/bwn-firmware-kmod but it does not exist >> >> ls -lao /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod >> ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory > > I'm sorry, I read your post too quickly and missed where you clearly stat= ed > the problem. > > You said: >> ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory > This indicates that you need to update your ports tree. =C2=A0Do you know= how? > [root@AlphaBeta ~ ]# !portsn [root@AlphaBeta ~ ]# portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Removing old files and directories... done. Extracting new files: Building new INDEX files... done. [root@AlphaBeta ~ ]# grep "REFUSE" /etc/portsnap.conf # can cause problems due to missing dependencies. If you have REFUSE REFUSE arabic chinese french german hungarian japanese REFUSE korean polish portuguese russian ukrainian vietnamese --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:53:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA0E10656DC for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa12.ono.com (smtp12.ono.com [62.42.230.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0978FC0A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (193.146.183.225) by resmaa12.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4C593CFD004FB8F0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: <4C593CFD004FB8F0@> (added by postmaster@resmaa12.ono.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:53:44 +0200 From: Eduardo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <861v95s94x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <86eid4sjs5.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> <7400470299185520142@unknownmsgid> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need supported SAS controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:53:54 -0000 On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:22:24 +0200 Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > > Don't know why they do that. But be careful because HTX/HNC > > (Hypertransport) connections are the same as PCIe but reversed > > and incompatible, check it before plugin anything. > > > > HTX is used to connect 2 motherboards via hypertransport (up to 51.2 > > GB/sec for now), connect expansion cards, etc... > > Well I think most users will see what is a HTX slot and what is a > pci-e8 slot. And if you dont then check your motherboard manual. I thought he doesn't know HTX slots exists and how are them, because he said "since they have they are reversed/mirrored compared to normal PCIe cards". He can shortcircuit/damage something if plugin a pcie card, so i advise him. But you are right, if in doubt read the manual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 15:04:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5384110656C7 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf12.insightbb.com (mxsf12.insightbb.com [74.128.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7BB8FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:04:24 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="160909714" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf12.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 11:04:23 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah40ADdDh0xKgCiCO2dsb2JhbACDGYRSmScMAQEBARkcLa1vkSeBIoMndAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="42697824" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 11:04:04 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:04:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009081044.41114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009081104.02996.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:04:25 -0000 On Wednesday 08 September 2010 10:49:54 Eitan Adler wrote: > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 September 2010 10:21:44 Eitan Adler wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Steven Friedrich > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > On Tuesday 07 September 2010 21:46:43 Eitan Adler wrote: > >> >> When I attempt to use the if_bwn driver I get the following messages: > >> >> > >> >> Is my card not supported or am I missing a step or is it something > >> >> else? > >> > >> ... > >> > >> > You need a package or port of: > >> > bwn-firmware-kmod-0.1.0 Broadcom AirForce IEEE 802.11 Firmware Kernel > >> > Module > >> > >> The closest port I find is > >> > >> net/bwi-firmware-kmod > >> > >> > >> # locate bwn-|grep ports|wc -l > >> 0 > >> > >> When I searched for firmware using make quicksearch key="firmware" I > >> found net/bwn-firmware-kmod but it does not exist > >> > >> ls -lao /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod > >> ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory > > > > I'm sorry, I read your post too quickly and missed where you clearly > > stated the problem. > > > > You said: > >> ls: /usr/ports/net/bwn-firmware-kmod: No such file or directory > > > > This indicates that you need to update your ports tree. Do you know how? > > [root@AlphaBeta ~ ]# !portsn > [root@AlphaBeta ~ ]# portsnap fetch update > Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. > Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.FreeBSD.org... done. > Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. > No updates needed. > Removing old files and directories... done. > Extracting new files: > Building new INDEX files... done. > [root@AlphaBeta ~ ]# grep "REFUSE" /etc/portsnap.conf > # can cause problems due to missing dependencies. If you have REFUSE > REFUSE arabic chinese french german hungarian japanese > REFUSE korean polish portuguese russian ukrainian vietnamese I'm not familiar with portsnap, so I'll let someone else troublehoot that. But I want to mention that the port was added to the tree six months ago... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 15:15:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A4B10656EA for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEB18FC21 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so89739gxk.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.209.8 with SMTP id h8mr110046ang.251.1283958924521; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:15:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:15:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009081104.02996.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201009081044.41114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <201009081104.02996.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:15:03 -0400 Message-ID: To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:15:26 -0000 > I'm not familiar with portsnap, so I'll let someone else troublehoot that. > But I want to mention that the port was added to the tree six months ago... > I checked it out from CVS and installed the port. I'll test the wireless soon. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:30:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E0410656C1 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdsfbsd@att.net) Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FC128FC16 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19172 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2010 14:03:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1283954620; bh=jrgGLNzJBF5KAaH5dTN5ZXhbiOv0la55mz5eIjLq4sQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=rP82eWaGpKa12HWlTd7n6N2Ubnc9IGCJuD443VHUrtjsXtmhtunV/kS18xm9gdnC1iAEyyY4pVBWVqb3k/enE+LtjZMbMocnr5IhoL8a1ZDIXkG0rKTy6KsOFiUOm40T+TOG2OwT079KPEN1iBV61EZM4bOAlMPQ/gq8KDOBT5k= Received: from ack5833s2.ad.service.osu.edu (bdsfbsd@128.146.175.36 with login) by smtp102.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2010 07:03:39 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: d5tX3UiswBBe7eAro3WwBCIcMc7tMmv23kUXyA-- X-YMail-OSG: 78dv.WAVM1kL7d0bNmnMMLw.TLfCoHTtnP3OKJQUbFMoQ4M VJC1xu5RKfyy6bNicO_Un8CmTEfHdhhPm0AR40ksD5GUnjunI8.Z1ix2KcH6 5ksEXL67kxPkPwnNQySTvX78Mu3wdDswcfsGCJwosLH46vz4VOI1TqYampsC xNhuTUhd6QgwF5wx8hKtG0nHTG5PDt57iOf.2.6febrMpVTcpc8pmplmkDt8 LR2pc_1lOupu7ZBLSVchdHuqE7p9fLiLMjsf85.kCqByJAvlTNSUXmTOQdWo J75jGvu1Uo0Z7dyn23AHr2Ho15jUwPyvPq6pdgycFJnbkL9BtP_OoqDIRcck y3.S6XN7USJRYIMQSO7wJud4dqIapC2A0vSOGrk_6K40- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "David Southwell" , "Robert Huff" References: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> <19591.30637.289885.767759@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:03:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <19591.30637.289885.767759@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.61 (Win32) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:35:14 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Browser choices & flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:30:26 -0000 On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:46:53 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > David Southwell writes: > [snip] >> 3. ADVICE PLEASE >> Most reliable browser combination and recomendations of specific >> port combinations which can deliver reliable browsing including >> flash capability. > > What "works" for me - doesn't crash, but sometimes can't handle > the content - is: > > firefox-3.6.8 (or) > seamonkey-2.0.6 > nspluginwrapper-1.2.2_7 > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r82 > > installed per the Handbook. A minor annoyance is the wrapper > doesn't exit cleanly and tends to leave hung jobs; not noticeable > resource sink, until you have 20+ of them .... > > > Robert Huff Here is a possible fix available to the hung jobs problem: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=91872&postcount=5 (Not my work, I'm just pointing to it.) Although instead of a cron job I actually just use a launcher on a desktop panel that does killall -9 npviewer.bin (and IIRC rm npviewer.bin.core* or something like that, sorry it isn't in front of me right now.) This works for me because I only really need it after the wife has been playing games on Facebook using Firefox. I use Opera with www/opera-linuxplugins and don't have any problems. B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 16:22:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC82810656A6 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp2.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEBDF8FC1E for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25496 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2010 09:31:36 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 25488, pid: 25491, t: 0.2410s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp2.surewest.net. X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=13.5 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=jDt-9pEAAAAA:8 a=xgoGgeL9wEaedXs90swA:9 a=RwA7gVijjcF6MUE3-LEA:7 a=qNXP3gN6he7Oqx2SiapKmVYFdgkA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=Sllw8v0m4fwA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by smtp2 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2010 09:31:36 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63CFD165687; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:22:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1283962956; bh=qPbImwl15FFB9OKVp9kig5J021duskwDKTo12q7eekE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RJ+s/unquIG5zDZSdVhGdWQM91wJ1Jn6ZqbGWDWQY4pPqUfEY1J5a0oJrK7CRYOJI 8jmQqJj4vfh7JL7W+ACuD1f6aCFgoUEmI+j1KsgsAzN9ZB6z/qBkf9kG854h7c/PWk P6IjBi7gs66xHLk1o0LJoehzStuN7y1Th3gUeca4= Message-ID: <4C87B844.4090505@mykitchentable.net> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:22:28 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201009080050.o880oZli002150@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201009080050.o880oZli002150@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100908-0, 09/08/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:22:37 -0000 On 9/7/2010 5:50 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 6 12:46:59 2010 >> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:46:47 -0700 >> From: Drew Tomlinson >> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com >> Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail >> >> On 9/5/2010 4:02 PM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> Frank Shute wrote: >>> >>>> Drew, try this: >>>> >>>> * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com >>>> >>>> I think it's not catching it because the period isn't backslash >>>> escaped ... >>> Unless there's some edge case that I'm not thinking of, adding a >>> backslash to escape a period will never convert a non-match into >>> a match. An unescaped period in an RE matches any character, >>> including a period. An escaped period matches only a period. >> I have confirmed this. I did add the backslash but procmail is still >> not matching. >> >>> Adding the backslash _does_ better represent what the OP wants >>> to accomplish, but the lack of it is not the cause of the RE not >>> matching. (I'm not sufficiently familiar with how procmail uses >>> REs to figure out what _is_ causing it not to match.) >> True and thus I'll leave the backslash. However I have no idea what >> _is_ causing it not to match either. I'm stumped. > Chances are you're 'over-specifying' what you want. take off the trailing > $, and maybe even the '>' > > There's _something_ in the header that is not what you 'think' it is, > which is what is causing the problem. the difficulty is -finding- what > that 'something' is. > > From whatever file procmail is dumping that message into, try using a > minimal text editor (something that is *NOT* language/charset aware, > delete everything _but_ that 'From: ' line, and then use that as input > to 'od -xc' to see _exactly_ what's there. > Here is that output: blacklamb> od -xc x 0000000 7246 6d6f 203a 4622 6d61 756f 2073 6d53 F r o m : " F a m o u s S m 0000020 6b6f 2065 6853 706f 2022 413c 6e6e 756f o k e S h o p " < A n n o u 0000040 636e 4065 6d65 6961 2e6c 6166 6f6d 7375 n c e @ e m a i l . f a m o u s 0000060 732d 6f6d 656b 632e 6d6f 0a3e - s m o k e . c o m > \n And this procmail recipe does *not* match: # Deliver other email to folder :0 * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com "${HOME}/Maildir/.Shopping/Famous Smoke/Email/" Do you see anything I'm missing? Thanks, Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 16:49:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF93C10656B3 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C028FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o88Gn8U6026156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:49:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o88Gn8B2029579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:49:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o88Gn8ua029574; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:49:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:49:08 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Pete Erickson Message-ID: <20100908164908.GA89940@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100907212501.gt31sgaog0w4g4ko@imp.redlamb.net> <4C872B17.3020606@cyberleo.net> <20100908093648.1vt3q2ut4wkk0g0g@imp.redlamb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100908093648.1vt3q2ut4wkk0g0g@imp.redlamb.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:49:08 -0500 (CDT) Cc: CyberLeo Kitsana , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exporting ZFS Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:49:10 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 08), Pete Erickson said: > On Wed Sep 8 01:20:07 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > > On 09/07/2010 09:25 PM, Pete Erickson wrote: > >> I'm relatively new to ZFS and have been playing around with different > >> file-backed set ups to determine how I will eventually configure my > >> pools. I've recently come across a problem with exporting a pool, but > >> I'm not sure if it's a bug or just my poor understanding of ZFS. I > >> create a simple pool using 2 128MB files. After exporting the pool, I am > >> unable to import it and the pool is not found by the zpool command. Any > >> advise would be appreciated. I'm currently running 8.1 STABLE. > > > > Curious, neither can I (8.1-RELEASE): > > > > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ truncate -s 256m d1 d2 > > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool create pool /tmp/zp/d1 /tmp/zp/d2 Try using mdconfig to attach these files as disk devices. "mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /tmp/zp/d1" and "-f /tmp/zp/d2" (you'll get two md# devices), then see if the zpool import command is any happier. It may be looking for disk devices and not files. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 16:55:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C70110656E5 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8BA8FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o88GtCwC050045; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:55:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B0D7DBA95; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:55:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:55:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: David Southwell Message-ID: <20100908165511.GA64401@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Browser choices & flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:55:14 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 09:45:48AM +0100, David Southwell wrote: > Hi > One of our freebsd systems is a user terminal with desktop. We have const= ant=20 > difficulties with web browsing on that platform. Here is the data >=20 > 1. INFO: > System: > freebsd 7.2-RELEASE-p3 - GENERIC amd64 > Desktop: > kde4.5.1 > Current installed web browser stuff: > konqueror 4.5.1 > epiphany-2.30.2_1 =20 > firefox-3.5.11,1 =20 > flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.13_5 A GPL standalone Flash (TM) plugin for Mozil= la=20 This plugin is now five years old, and doesn't seem to be in active development anymore.=20 > 3. ADVICE PLEASE > Most reliable browser combination and recomendations of specific port=20 > combinations which can deliver reliable browsing including flash capabili= ty.=20 No open source flash player works on all sites, as far as I know. If you don't mind non-free software and all the extra linux compat stuff th= at it needs, try the linux version of the Adobe flash plugin; www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 Try graphics/gnash instead if you want native software. Mind that there is a problem with the 0.8.7 version of gnash and youtube. This is fixed in 0.8.8 but that hasn't made it into ports yet. Gnash sometimes crashes, but this doesn't usualy affect firefox. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyHv+8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUxZwCcDeQsLb5Jb4ocEBXb949nhn1z IQQAnjVyuDpfV9srhEkaHSrSkowzg/3t =0uiA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 17:50:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B4210656CA for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf03.insightbb.com (mxsf03.insightbb.com [74.128.0.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014EB8FC17 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:50:39 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="937305403" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 13:50:38 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Akg0AOJph0xKgCiCO2dsb2JhbACDGYRSmSoMAQEBATUtr1aRLYEigyd0BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="42750448" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 13:50:38 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:50:37 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009081104.02996.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009081350.38069.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:50:40 -0000 On Wednesday 08 September 2010 11:15:03 Eitan Adler wrote: > > I'm not familiar with portsnap, so I'll let someone else troublehoot > > that. But I want to mention that the port was added to the tree six > > months ago... > > I checked it out from CVS and installed the port. I'll test the wireless > soon. As I recall, I had to add this line to loader.conf because it wouldn't autoload it: if_bwn_load="YES" # Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs Someone may have fixed it by now. I was doing this back during the release of 8.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 18:17:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6491065673 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109E38FC0A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so230624ywt.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.96.17 with SMTP id t17mr381685agb.36.1283969876364; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:17:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:17:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009081350.38069.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201009081104.02996.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <201009081350.38069.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:17:36 -0400 Message-ID: To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:17:58 -0000 As I recall, I had to add this line to loader.conf because it wouldn't > autoload it: > if_bwn_load=3D"YES" =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# Bro= adcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs > > Someone may have fixed it by now. =C2=A0I was doing this back during the = release of > 8.1 > I already did $kldload if_bwn && kldload bwn_v4_ucode.ko && kldload bwn_v4_lp_ucode.ko --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 18:32:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19D010656B2 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redlamb@redlamb.net) Received: from ironhide.redlamb.net (ironhide.redlamb.net [216.17.90.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC328FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ironhide.redlamb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188B5397C8; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ironhide.redlamb.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ironhide.redlamb.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09645-02; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:16:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from does.not.exist (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ironhide.redlamb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348ED39796; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:16:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:17:08 -0500 From: Pete Erickson To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20100908181708.GA15884@does.not.exist> References: <20100907212501.gt31sgaog0w4g4ko@imp.redlamb.net> <4C872B17.3020606@cyberleo.net> <20100908093648.1vt3q2ut4wkk0g0g@imp.redlamb.net> <20100908164908.GA89940@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100908164908.GA89940@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt X-GPG-Fingerprint: 60EF 3594 0953 353E ABB3 F5D0 EFF5 EAC1 A989 6169 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exporting ZFS Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:32:03 -0000 ** Dan Nelson [2010-09-08 11:49:08 -0500] ** > In the last episode (Sep 08), Pete Erickson said: > > On Wed Sep 8 01:20:07 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > > > On 09/07/2010 09:25 PM, Pete Erickson wrote: > > >> I'm relatively new to ZFS and have been playing around with different > > >> file-backed set ups to determine how I will eventually configure my > > >> pools. I've recently come across a problem with exporting a pool, but > > >> I'm not sure if it's a bug or just my poor understanding of ZFS. I > > >> create a simple pool using 2 128MB files. After exporting the pool, I am > > >> unable to import it and the pool is not found by the zpool command. Any > > >> advise would be appreciated. I'm currently running 8.1 STABLE. > > > > > > Curious, neither can I (8.1-RELEASE): > > > > > > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ truncate -s 256m d1 d2 > > > (f84104b2)[cyberleo@akisha /tmp/zp]$ sudo zpool create pool /tmp/zp/d1 /tmp/zp/d2 > > Try using mdconfig to attach these files as disk devices. "mdconfig -a -t > vnode -f /tmp/zp/d1" and "-f /tmp/zp/d2" (you'll get two md# devices), then > see if the zpool import command is any happier. It may be looking for disk > devices and not files. This seemed to work. I was able to export the pool and reimport it without a problem. I'll use this for testing, however, correct me if I'm wrong, but this should still work without attaching it as a disk device, correct? Prior to testing this, I tried using the the files again without mounting and I received the error stating that it was missing one of the files. It clearly identified disk1.dd as present, but was unable to find disk2.dd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 18:52:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D6010656D1 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from PMahan@adaranet.com) Received: from barracuda.adaranet.com (smtp.adaranet.com [72.5.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D218FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:52:26 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1283971180-5061e26e0001-jLrpzn Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([10.10.1.29]) by barracuda.adaranet.com with ESMTP id hkHKD3aryGh9wBVk for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:39:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: PMahan@adaranet.com Received: from mycroft.adaranet.com (10.10.24.100) by SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com (10.10.1.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.240.5; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:39:40 -0700 Message-ID: <4C87D984.90100@adaranet.com> X-Barracuda-BBL-IP: nil Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:44:20 -0700 From: Patrick Mahan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Burning a the 8.1 release DVD iso Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.10.1.29] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1283971180 X-Barracuda-URL: http://172.16.10.203:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at adaranet.com Subject: Burning a the 8.1 release DVD iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:52:27 -0000 I am wanting to burn the 8.1 DVD iso image onto a DVD-R disc. Previously, I did this on my Macbook Pro using OSX, but alas, my HD died on the Macbook so I am trying to do this on my Sony Vaio desktop system. Platform: Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.80 GHz w/512 MB memory HD: IBM DTLA-307075 (74 G) DVD writer: SONY DVD RW DW-U12A/2.0d OS: FreeBSD mycroft.adaranet.com 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I have the following modules loaded: Id Refs Address Size Name 1 17 0xc0400000 b6dfe0 kernel 2 1 0xc396b000 26000 linux.ko 3 1 0xc3adc000 5e000 radeon.ko 4 1 0xc3b3d000 14000 drm.ko 5 1 0xc59dd000 4000 atapicam.ko The 'camcontrol devlist' command reports: at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,cd1) at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) I have built and installed dvd+rw-tools 7.1 along with cdrtools-2.01. If I try to use 'growisofs' : mycroft# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd1=FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso :-( /dev/cd1: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0 So then I try to use 'cdrecord' and get the following: mycroft# cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd8.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 0 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'SONY ' Identifikation : 'DVD RW DW-U12A ' Revision : '2.0d' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: 0x0000 Profile: 0x001B Profile: 0x001A Profile: 0x0014 Profile: 0x0013 Profile: 0x0011 Profile: 0x0010 Profile: 0x000A Profile: 0x0009 Profile: 0x0008 cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support code. cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD. cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 8112896 = 7922 KB Drive DMA Speed: 5744 kB/s 32x CD 4x DVD FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 2199 MB Total size: 2525 MB (250:12.89) = 1125967 sectors Lout start: 2525 MB (250:14/67) = 1125967 sectors cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x00 (incompatible medium installed) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.010s timeout 40s cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk! However, I went to the ftp ftp.berlios.de and there I find a message that ProDVD has been released as of cdrtools-2.01.01a09. So obviously I am missing something. The handbook is not quite clear on this issue. And my googling has only located the issues regarding needing to load atapicam.ko module. Any help or educational experience is appreciated. Thanks, Patrick Mahan Adara Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 19:11:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEB510656D3 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175878FC15 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35so272352yxn.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GgnSIbGXCJD6gWkN+UZJSgd+gA7Kwp47nhD7hoPeATc=; b=KoNuYDT69SwUgDTS/gZ8tBIzLgjFx9j+JUmMdDVOfvFzXop9URDgwhfa2zvmrxhHfR ASCKUdqP0H14r5Qf5IyyX+VFfB2GYXBCh+lnDTHSRPCeBv+sgdDD4bLAYon/GgDVGkF5 4x1C8uXejukzd3K8psVltpv+sl4TQ5ZN/rVnM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=gunAkqakLCIyafUUATF4+/3vCy4v+rQWjxJSDi86eFobDVZCj8iUPVHNbgku3mGFX6 v4/8aVNH3mNgftPeurfkZyyPmw7Mo6nv9mexxYmrXnXpMMaIsEGtWRBystVU4V049T7D RtrbJ5MsZa+FjlF2zvd3G+K8vv8FSMQgVn+Vo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.14.143 with SMTP id g15mr4295231qca.208.1283971207677; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.239.136 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:40:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100908165511.GA64401@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> <20100908165511.GA64401@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:40:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: Henry Olyer To: Roland Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: David Southwell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Browser choices & flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:11:24 -0000 I'm about to put up 8.1. And would like (I know I'm dreaming,) to get this right, first time. Many times I've had to scrap an installation and restart from scratch because I didn't do things right. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 09:45:48AM +0100, David Southwell wrote: > > Hi > > One of our freebsd systems is a user terminal with desktop. We have > constant > > difficulties with web browsing on that platform. Here is the data > > > > 1. INFO: > > System: > > freebsd 7.2-RELEASE-p3 - GENERIC amd64 > > Desktop: > > kde4.5.1 > > Current installed web browser stuff: > > konqueror 4.5.1 > > epiphany-2.30.2_1 > > firefox-3.5.11,1 > > flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.13_5 A GPL standalone Flash (TM) plugin for > Mozilla > > This plugin is now five years old, and doesn't seem to be in active > development anymore. > > > 3. ADVICE PLEASE > > Most reliable browser combination and recomendations of specific port > > combinations which can deliver reliable browsing including flash > capability. > > No open source flash player works on all sites, as far as I know. > > If you don't mind non-free software and all the extra linux compat stuff > that > it needs, try the linux version of the Adobe flash plugin; > www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 > > Try graphics/gnash instead if you want native software. Mind that there > is a problem with the 0.8.7 version of gnash and youtube. This is fixed in > 0.8.8 but that hasn't made it into ports yet. Gnash sometimes crashes, but > this doesn't usualy affect firefox. > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 19:29:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D8710656E9 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BD98FC19 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (ppp-94-69-50-19.home.otenet.gr [94.69.50.19]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o88JSsVr021706; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:28:55 +0300 Message-ID: <4C87E3F6.30205@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:28:54 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Mahan References: <4C87D984.90100@adaranet.com> In-Reply-To: <4C87D984.90100@adaranet.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning a the 8.1 release DVD iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:29:00 -0000 On 08/09/2010 9:44 μ.μ., Patrick Mahan wrote: > > I am wanting to burn the 8.1 DVD iso image onto a DVD-R disc. Previously, > I did this on my Macbook Pro using OSX, but alas, my HD died on the > Macbook > so I am trying to do this on my Sony Vaio desktop system. > > Platform: > > Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.80 GHz w/512 MB memory > HD: IBM DTLA-307075 (74 G) > DVD writer: SONY DVD RW DW-U12A/2.0d > > OS: > > FreeBSD mycroft.adaranet.com 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat > Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 > root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > I have the following modules loaded: > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 17 0xc0400000 b6dfe0 kernel > 2 1 0xc396b000 26000 linux.ko > 3 1 0xc3adc000 5e000 radeon.ko > 4 1 0xc3b3d000 14000 drm.ko > 5 1 0xc59dd000 4000 atapicam.ko > > The 'camcontrol devlist' command reports: > > at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,cd1) > at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) > > > I have built and installed dvd+rw-tools 7.1 along with cdrtools-2.01. > > If I try to use 'growisofs' : > > mycroft# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z > /dev/cd1=FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso > :-( /dev/cd1: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0 > > So then I try to use 'cdrecord' and get the following: > > mycroft# cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data > FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd8.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 > Jörg Schilling > TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM > scsidev: '1,0,0' > scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > SCSI buffer size: 64512 > atapi: 0 > Device type : Removable CD-ROM > Version : 0 > Response Format: 2 > Capabilities : > Vendor_info : 'SONY ' > Identifikation : 'DVD RW DW-U12A ' > Revision : '2.0d' > Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. > Current: 0x0000 > Profile: 0x001B > Profile: 0x001A > Profile: 0x0014 > Profile: 0x0013 > Profile: 0x0011 > Profile: 0x0010 > Profile: 0x000A > Profile: 0x0009 > Profile: 0x0008 > cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW > support code. > cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for > cdrecord-ProDVD. > cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ > Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). > Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE > Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R > Drive buf size : 8112896 = 7922 KB > Drive DMA Speed: 5744 kB/s 32x CD 4x DVD > FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB > Track 01: data 2199 MB > Total size: 2525 MB (250:12.89) = 1125967 sectors > Lout start: 2525 MB (250:14/67) = 1125967 sectors > cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable > error > CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x00 (incompatible medium installed) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > cmd finished after 0.010s timeout 40s > cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk! > > However, I went to the ftp ftp.berlios.de and there I find a message > that ProDVD has been released > as of cdrtools-2.01.01a09. > > So obviously I am missing something. The handbook is not quite clear > on this issue. And my googling has > only located the issues regarding needing to load atapicam.ko module. > > Any help or educational experience is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Mahan > Adara Networks Nothing wrong with your growisofs line. That's what I use all the time to write DVD isos, including FreeBSD install media. It seems the drive is unable to recognize the media as a recordable one (look at the cdrecord message: incompatible medium found and growisofs: media not recognized as recordable dvd). Could you try with a different brand/type disk? Try both DVD+R and DVD-R. I've had this before: specific drives refusing to work with specific media. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 20:53:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DCB1065670 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf02.insightbb.com (mxsf02.insightbb.com [74.128.0.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2508FC12 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:52:59 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="856302701" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf02.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 16:52:58 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ajg7ACyUh0xKgCiCO2dsb2JhbACDGZBYjTEMAQEBATUtr1WROoEigyd0BIk2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,335,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="42803290" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2010 16:52:58 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:52:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <201009081350.38069.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: <201009081350.38069.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009081652.52330.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: BWN driver error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:53:00 -0000 On Wednesday 08 September 2010 13:50:37 Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Wednesday 08 September 2010 11:15:03 Eitan Adler wrote: > > > I'm not familiar with portsnap, so I'll let someone else troublehoot > > > that. But I want to mention that the port was added to the tree six > > > months ago... > > > > I checked it out from CVS and installed the port. I'll test the wireless > > soon. > > As I recall, I had to add this line to loader.conf because it wouldn't > autoload it: > if_bwn_load="YES" # Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs > > Someone may have fixed it by now. I was doing this back during the release > of 8.1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I'm sorry. I cut the wrong line from loader.conf. It should have been to load firmware. I know you've gotten past it, but I wanted to set the record straight, in case anyone needs help... bwn_v4_ucode_load="YES" # Broadcom BCM43XX firmware From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 21:13:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979FF10656E3 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from PMahan@adaranet.com) Received: from barracuda.adaranet.com (smtp.adaranet.com [72.5.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFAC8FC1C for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:13:59 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1283980438-5061e3af0001-jLrpzn Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([10.10.1.29]) by barracuda.adaranet.com with ESMTP id c1h3zngsEMmPgSQg; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:13:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: PMahan@adaranet.com Received: from mycroft.adaranet.com (10.10.24.100) by SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com (10.10.1.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.240.5; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:13:58 -0700 Message-ID: <4C87FDAE.3010201@adaranet.com> X-Barracuda-BBL-IP: nil Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:18:38 -0700 From: Patrick Mahan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: Burning a the 8.1 release DVD iso References: <4C87D984.90100@adaranet.com> <4C87E3F6.30205@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4C87E3F6.30205@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.10.1.29] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1283980438 X-Barracuda-URL: http://172.16.10.203:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at adaranet.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Burning a the 8.1 release DVD iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:13:59 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 08/09/2010 9:44 μ.μ., Patrick Mahan wrote: >> I am wanting to burn the 8.1 DVD iso image onto a DVD-R disc. Previously, >> I did this on my Macbook Pro using OSX, but alas, my HD died on the >> Macbook >> so I am trying to do this on my Sony Vaio desktop system. >> >> Platform: >> >> Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.80 GHz w/512 MB memory >> HD: IBM DTLA-307075 (74 G) >> DVD writer: SONY DVD RW DW-U12A/2.0d >> >> OS: >> >> FreeBSD mycroft.adaranet.com 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat >> Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 >> root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >> I have the following modules loaded: >> >> Id Refs Address Size Name >> 1 17 0xc0400000 b6dfe0 kernel >> 2 1 0xc396b000 26000 linux.ko >> 3 1 0xc3adc000 5e000 radeon.ko >> 4 1 0xc3b3d000 14000 drm.ko >> 5 1 0xc59dd000 4000 atapicam.ko >> >> The 'camcontrol devlist' command reports: >> >> at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,cd1) >> at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) >> >> >> I have built and installed dvd+rw-tools 7.1 along with cdrtools-2.01. >> >> If I try to use 'growisofs' : >> >> mycroft# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z >> /dev/cd1=FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso >> :-( /dev/cd1: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0 >> >> So then I try to use 'cdrecord' and get the following: >> >> mycroft# cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data >> FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso >> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd8.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 >> Jörg Schilling >> TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM >> scsidev: '1,0,0' >> scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 >> Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. >> SCSI buffer size: 64512 >> atapi: 0 >> Device type : Removable CD-ROM >> Version : 0 >> Response Format: 2 >> Capabilities : >> Vendor_info : 'SONY ' >> Identifikation : 'DVD RW DW-U12A ' >> Revision : '2.0d' >> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. >> Current: 0x0000 >> Profile: 0x001B >> Profile: 0x001A >> Profile: 0x0014 >> Profile: 0x0013 >> Profile: 0x0011 >> Profile: 0x0010 >> Profile: 0x000A >> Profile: 0x0009 >> Profile: 0x0008 >> cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW >> support code. >> cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for >> cdrecord-ProDVD. >> cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at >> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ >> Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). >> Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE >> Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R >> Drive buf size : 8112896 = 7922 KB >> Drive DMA Speed: 5744 kB/s 32x CD 4x DVD >> FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB >> Track 01: data 2199 MB >> Total size: 2525 MB (250:12.89) = 1125967 sectors >> Lout start: 2525 MB (250:14/67) = 1125967 sectors >> cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable >> error >> CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 >> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) >> Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 >> 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 >> Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 >> Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x00 (incompatible medium installed) Fru 0x0 >> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) >> cmd finished after 0.010s timeout 40s >> cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk! >> >> However, I went to the ftp ftp.berlios.de and there I find a message >> that ProDVD has been released >> as of cdrtools-2.01.01a09. >> >> So obviously I am missing something. The handbook is not quite clear >> on this issue. And my googling has >> only located the issues regarding needing to load atapicam.ko module. >> >> Any help or educational experience is appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Patrick Mahan >> Adara Networks > > Nothing wrong with your growisofs line. That's what I use all the time > to write DVD isos, including FreeBSD install media. > It seems the drive is unable to recognize the media as a recordable one > (look at the cdrecord message: incompatible medium found and growisofs: > media not recognized as recordable dvd). Could you try with a different > brand/type disk? > Try both DVD+R and DVD-R. I've had this before: specific drives refusing > to work with specific media. > *sigh* not on FreeBSD as well :-( I have run across this writing DVD's using Fedora Cora and Ubuntu. Especially, when the drive is a DVD+/-RW drive. I've had it writing with -R and come back the next day and it would only take +R. Should have guessed since these are basically the same tools I have tried to use under linux. This was one of the reasons I used my Mac. I've gone and gotten some DVD+R and it seems to be doing something (lights are flashing and growisofs is outputing a lot of info. Thanks, Patrick _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 22:02:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0561F10656CF for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9858FC15 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so393274gxk.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.226.16 with SMTP id y16mr559910ang.139.1283983356557; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-147-230.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.147.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w1sm613414ana.36.2010.09.08.15.02.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A705E54857 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 18:02:33 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100908180233.09ead760@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <19591.30637.289885.767759@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <201009080945.48847.david@vizion2000.net> <19591.30637.289885.767759@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Browser choices & flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:02:38 -0000 On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:46:53 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: > David Southwell writes: > > > One of our freebsd systems is a user terminal with desktop. We > > have constant difficulties with web browsing on that > > platform. Here is the data > > > 2. PROBLEMS > > Frequent crashing of all available browsers - seems to be flash > > related. > > 3. ADVICE PLEASE > > Most reliable browser combination and recomendations of specific > > port combinations which can deliver reliable browsing including > > flash capability. > > What "works" for me - doesn't crash, but sometimes can't > handle the content - is: > > firefox-3.6.8 (or) > seamonkey-2.0.6 > nspluginwrapper-1.2.2_7 > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r82 > > installed per the Handbook. A minor annoyance is the wrapper > doesn't exit cleanly and tends to leave hung jobs; not noticeable > resource sink, until you have 20+ of them .... The biggest problem with firefox is that FreeBSD does not have a compatible (current) version of Java available for it. If you don't need Java, all is well and good; otherwise, you are screwed. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 23:05:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F881065697 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjin@ubicom.com) Received: from server70.appriver.com (server70b.appriver.com [74.205.4.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7228FC08 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:05:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 9/8/2010 7:05:31 PM X-Policy: GLOBAL - ubicom.com X-Primary: gjin@ubicom.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: @ubicom.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 216.112.109.98 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: 216.112.109.98.ptr.us.xo.net X-Note-WHTLIST: gjin@ubicom.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G200 G201 G202 G203 G207 G208 G219 G307 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from dummy.name; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:05:31 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 x-cr-puzzleid: {2B65EA99-1976-44E3-849F-6656C8943B4C} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AGcE AX6g CHCM HidJ Hrnk JDC7 JkDa Jwk7 KDU0 KEAv KITw KZZr Kbki KrYW KuZ4 KxG9; 1; cQB1AGUAcwB0AGkAbwBuAHMAQABmAHIAZQBlAGIAcwBkAC4AbwByAGcA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {2B65EA99-1976-44E3-849F-6656C8943B4C}; ZwBqAGkAbgBAAHUAYgBpAGMAbwBtAC4AYwBvAG0A; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:03:20 GMT; aABvAHcAIAB0AG8AIAB0AGUAbABsACAAIgBsAHMAIgAgAG8AdQB0AHAAdQB0ACAAZABhAHQAZQAgAGkAbgAgAGQAaQBnAGkAdABhAGwA Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:03:20 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: how to tell "ls" output date in digital Thread-Index: ActPqgf7cKMa4hxiSHKj6cK/SUQX8w== From: "Guojun Jin" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:05:29 -0000 I remember that "ls" can output date in digital like following format before =20 -rw-r--r-- 1 user Domain Users 54323 2010-09-08 14:12 crash.log =20 Instead of Sep 08 2010 or Sep 08 11:07 =20 But I cannot find any option or ENV to do this under FreeBSD (6.X-R). Does anyone have knowledge about this possibility? =20 -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 23:09:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A27B1065673 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD1B8FC0A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so514797iwn.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.13.140 with SMTP id c12mr7859402iba.25.1283987351402; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:09:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:08:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:08:51 -0400 Message-ID: To: Guojun Jin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:09:12 -0000 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Guojun Jin wrote: > I remember that "ls" can output date in digital like following format ls -lD "format" check strftime(3) for details on format. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 23:18:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B592010656BC for ; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:14:55 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: how to tell "ls" output date in digital Thread-Index: ActPqoq0Te1ivyK/Qzmbwj7V5dBNYAAAO9eQ References: From: "Guojun Jin" To: "Eitan Adler" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:18:31 -0000 Tm8gRCBvcHRpb24gaW4gbHM6DQoNClsxNjJdIGJzZC1tczogbHMgLWxEICIrJUYgJUg6JU0iDQps czogaWxsZWdhbCBvcHRpb24gLS0gRA0KdXNhZ2U6IGxzIFstQUJDRkdISUxQUlNUVVdaYWJjZGZn aGlrbG1ub3BxcnN0dXd4MV0gW2ZpbGUgLi4uXQ0KDQpbMTYzXSBic2QtbXM6IHVuYW1lIC1hDQpG cmVlQlNEIGJzZC1tcyA2LjQtUkVMRUFTRSBGcmVlQlNEIDYuNC1SRUxFQVNFICMwOiBUaHUgTWFy ICA1IDExOjUxOjUwIFBTVCAyMDA5DQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9t OiBFaXRhbiBBZGxlciBbbWFpbHRvOmxpc3RzQGVpdGFuYWRsZXIuY29tXSANClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5l c2RheSwgU2VwdGVtYmVyIDA4LCAyMDEwIDQ6MDkgUE0NClRvOiBHdW9qdW4gSmluDQpDYzogcXVl c3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnDQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogaG93IHRvIHRlbGwgImxzIiBvdXRwdXQg ZGF0ZSBpbiBkaWdpdGFsDQoNCk9uIFdlZCwgU2VwIDgsIDIwMTAgYXQgNzowMyBQTSwgR3VvanVu IEppbiA8Z2ppbkB1Ymljb20uY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCj4gSSByZW1lbWJlciB0aGF0ICJscyIgY2Fu IG91dHB1dCBkYXRlIGluIGRpZ2l0YWwgbGlrZSBmb2xsb3dpbmcgZm9ybWF0DQoNCmxzIC1sRCAi Zm9ybWF0Ig0KY2hlY2sgc3RyZnRpbWUoMykgZm9yIGRldGFpbHMgb24gZm9ybWF0Lg0KDQoNCg0K DQotLSANCkVpdGFuIEFkbGVyDQo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 23:21:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672621065697 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2668FC1E for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:20:59 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8G00E88BIAG470@asmtp025.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:20:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1009080178 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-09-08_10:2010-09-08, 2010-09-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:20:34 -0700 Message-id: <3CF8B516-812C-4309-88BD-A1F346939A47@mac.com> References: To: Guojun Jin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: Eitan Adler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:21:01 -0000 Hi-- On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Guojun Jin wrote: > No D option in ls: > > [162] bsd-ms: ls -lD "+%F %H:%M" > ls: illegal option -- D > usage: ls [-ABCFGHILPRSTUWZabcdfghiklmnopqrstuwx1] [file ...] I suspect that's a GNU extention to their version of ls. Try installing /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils and see whether /usr/local/bin/ls supports this.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 23:23:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AE310656CB for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4749D8FC1A for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so530652iwn.13 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.155.212 with SMTP id t20mr10473333ibw.37.1283988205433; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:23:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.146.12 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:23:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3CF8B516-812C-4309-88BD-A1F346939A47@mac.com> References: <3CF8B516-812C-4309-88BD-A1F346939A47@mac.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:23:05 -0400 Message-ID: To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Guojun Jin Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:23:26 -0000 On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Guojun Jin wrote: >> No D option in ls: >> >> [162] bsd-ms: ls -lD "+%F %H:%M" >> ls: illegal option -- D >> usage: ls [-ABCFGHILPRSTUWZabcdfghiklmnopqrstuwx1] [file ...] > % svn log -r 177907 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ r177907 | grog | 2008-04-03 23:57:46 -0400 (Thu, 03 Apr 2008) | 2 lines Add -D option to specify exact format of date and time output with ls -l. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I just noticed your using 6.x. I'm not sure what revision 6.x was but maybe it is too old to have this option? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 23:55:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138FD10656B2 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjin@ubicom.com) Received: from server70.appriver.com (server70.appriver.com [69.20.119.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFEB8FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:55:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 9/8/2010 7:55:34 PM X-Policy: GLOBAL - ubicom.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - ubicom.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - ubicom.com X-Primary: gjin@ubicom.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: @ubicom.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 216.112.109.98 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: 216.112.109.98.ptr.us.xo.net X-Note-WHTLIST: gjin@ubicom.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G200 G201 G202 G203 G207 G208 G219 G307 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from dummy.name; 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Thu, 9 Sep 2010 00:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (smtprelay-h31.telenor.se [213.150.131.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA1B8FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 00:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B48E99D5 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 02:10:17 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiEzALfCh0xV4js3PGdsb2JhbAChIgwBAQEBNS3AMYU9BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,336,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="128398770" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2010 02:10:17 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o890AF42022740 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 02:10:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C8825E7.5080000@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:10:15 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Any way to force AHCI mode on ICH8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:10:20 -0000 I run FreeBSD 8.1 on an old Asus P5B-VM motherboard with ICH8. Its AMI BIOS lacks an option to enable AHCI mode. Intel's datasheet for the ICH8 family specifies that this feature exists on the ICH8, and the option is available in the BIOS for the identical (apart from form factor) P5B motherboard. http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/313056.pdf I've contacted Asus support for an updated BIOS but I don't have much hope I will ever see one. Would it be possible to patch the FreeBSD kernel to enable AHCI mode somehow during boot? Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 11:04:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237D210656C4 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4838FC14 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Otevr-0000TF-VN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:04:43 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:04:43 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:04:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:04:30 +0200 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <4C8825E7.5080000@pp.dyndns.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100518 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: <4C8825E7.5080000@pp.dyndns.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Subject: Re: Any way to force AHCI mode on ICH8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:04:47 -0000 On 09/09/10 02:10, Morgan Wesström wrote: > I run FreeBSD 8.1 on an old Asus P5B-VM motherboard with ICH8. Its AMI > BIOS lacks an option to enable AHCI mode. Intel's datasheet for the ICH8 > family specifies that this feature exists on the ICH8, and the option is > available in the BIOS for the identical (apart from form factor) P5B > motherboard. > > http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/313056.pdf > > I've contacted Asus support for an updated BIOS but I don't have much > hope I will ever see one. Would it be possible to patch the FreeBSD > kernel to enable AHCI mode somehow during boot? You mean except adding: ahci_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 11:51:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAD210656BE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from extmail-03.people.net.au (extmail-03.people.net.au [202.154.122.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A81198FC29 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1447 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2010 11:24:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO extmail-01.people.net.au) (202.154.123.98) by extmail-03.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 11:24:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 28616 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2010 11:24:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.185.136) by extmail-01.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 11:24:25 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BF29017104; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:24:21 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:24:21 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Guojun Jin Message-ID: <20100909112421.GA31640@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:51:07 -0000 On Wed 2010-09-08 16:03:20 UTC-0700, Guojun Jin (gjin@ubicom.com) wrote: > I remember that "ls" can output date in digital like following format > before > > -rw-r--r-- 1 user Domain Users 54323 2010-09-08 14:12 crash.log > > Instead of Sep 08 2010 or Sep 08 11:07 > > But I cannot find any option or ENV to do this under FreeBSD (6.X-R). > > Does anyone have knowledge about this possibility? In FreeBSD 7.3 I use /usr/local/bin/gls installed from the sysutils/coreutils port, and a tcsh alias for ls: ls gls --time-style=long-iso --color=auto 21:23 ozzmosis@blizzard [~]ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 512 2010-09-05 03:11 / Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 12:00:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D236710656FD for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3068FC23 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so6302196qyk.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PA5GpTKWrESpGmxyeOLGN2bMACEMCVcz0IlqUfxcd64=; b=E1OvaV1HdSLwbWx9tOaYHZdH8paI7chi4ZRTOCekcZCrWf/kAw/Dyv3rQx7h/peZoi vrRWKDBlraijhshiPjWdzQJ2+3r4inCQ9pqILozPn7jhaZ113L1fREGQCDQTGKPLbZqt 1IvHzZwquzzgKJQBi7apMDRRJRnJ9+xdI1aT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ebL7dEAX6JHKAFNaEB/DSvrYtDlqxzR0NGBofPl5Gs3dPonotF5gmEgTzvNqhNLXKx kvUdKwC1Xj6wokIe0OS0VuJ9KvHzY/GWeeNIkq0HKvfSLlYSN2ZXkkw7KDFt36BdhijV hRQc7s8jvTOlAn//49OaqIVvaVEVw9oFTkh7Q= Received: by 10.229.220.78 with SMTP id hx14mr455138qcb.148.1284033652367; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r36sm1220663qcs.27.2010.09.09.05.00.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C88CC70.6050309@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:00:48 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <201009080050.o880oZli002150@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C87B844.4090505@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4C87B844.4090505@mykitchentable.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regex Help For Procmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:00:53 -0000 On 9/8/10 12:22 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: [snip] > # Deliver other email to folder > :0 > * ^From:.*famous-smoke\.com > "${HOME}/Maildir/.Shopping/Famous Smoke/Email/" > > Do you see anything I'm missing? > Drew, I'll give this one final shot. Try this: * ^From:(.*@.*famous-smoke\.com) "$HOME/Maildir/...." Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 13:22:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C861065693 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from extmail-03.people.net.au (extmail-03.people.net.au [202.154.122.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A5668FC0A for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21550 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2010 13:22:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO extmail-01.people.net.au) (202.154.123.98) by extmail-03.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 13:22:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 7882 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2010 13:22:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.185.136) by extmail-01.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 13:22:05 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 967E51726A; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:22:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:22:05 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: "Pala, Santosh" Message-ID: <20100909132205.GA71024@ozzmosis.com> References: <20100909112421.GA31640@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , Guojun Jin Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:22:08 -0000 On Thu 2010-09-09 13:11:39 UTC+0000, Pala, Santosh (Santosh_Pala@KEANE.COM) wrote: > The ls command with -E switch will give the required output. Hmm, not in FreeBSD 7.3: 23:19 ozzmosis@blizzard [~]/bin/ls -E ls: illegal option -- E usage: ls [-ABCFGHILPRSTUWZabcdfghiklmnopqrstuwx1] [file ...] 23:19 ozzmosis@blizzard [~]/usr/local/bin/gls -E /usr/local/bin/gls: invalid option -- 'E' Try /usr/local/bin/gls --help' for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 13:30:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3777210656C7 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57DB8FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OthDJ-0003jy-QG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:30:54 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o89DUrIr005304 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:30:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o89DUr1e005303 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:30:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:30:53 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100909133052.GA5274@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: mount NTFS && can't write to it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:30:57 -0000 Hello, I'm mounting an NTFS slice on an external USB drive as: # mount -t ntfs /dev/da1s1 /mnt I can see the data there with ls(1) but can't create any dir like /mnt/dir nor touch a file like /mnt/file (ofc as root). It alwaya says /mnt/dir: No such file or directory. The man page of mount_ntfs(8) does not explain what the problem could be. This is with 8-CURRENT Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 13:39:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA6A10656E8 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Santosh_Pala@KEANE.COM) Received: from mail192.messagelabs.com (mail192.messagelabs.com [216.82.241.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972968FC1F for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:39:30 +0000 (UTC) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Santosh_Pala@KEANE.COM X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-192.messagelabs.com!1284037967!34031216!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.2.4; banners=keane.com,-,- X-Originating-IP: [115.248.191.9] Received: (qmail 11508 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2010 13:12:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MSG503.KDS.KEANE.COM) (115.248.191.9) by server-13.tower-192.messagelabs.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 13:12:50 -0000 Received: from MAIL504.KDS.KEANE.COM ([fe80::1921:c62:e8c6:b522]) by MSG503.KDS.KEANE.COM ([::1]) with mapi; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:42:47 +0530 From: "Pala, Santosh" To: andrew clarke , Guojun Jin Thread-Topic: how to tell "ls" output date in digital Thread-Index: AQHLUBVilAdv4xoKUECwBaNO2PGK45MJoOny Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:11:39 +0000 Message-ID: References: , <20100909112421.GA31640@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20100909112421.GA31640@ozzmosis.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:39:31 -0000 Hi Andrew, The ls command with -E switch will give the required output.=20 Regards, Pala. ________________________________________ From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd= .org] on behalf of andrew clarke [mail@ozzmosis.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:24 PM To: Guojun Jin Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital On Wed 2010-09-08 16:03:20 UTC-0700, Guojun Jin (gjin@ubicom.com) wrote: > I remember that "ls" can output date in digital like following format > before > > -rw-r--r-- 1 user Domain Users 54323 2010-09-08 14:12 crash.log > > Instead of Sep 08 2010 or Sep 08 11:07 > > But I cannot find any option or ENV to do this under FreeBSD (6.X-R). > > Does anyone have knowledge about this possibility? In FreeBSD 7.3 I use /usr/local/bin/gls installed from the sysutils/coreutils port, and a tcsh alias for ls: ls gls --time-style=3Dlong-iso --color=3Dauto 21:23 ozzmosis@blizzard [~]ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 512 2010-09-05 03:11 / Regards Andrew _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" ______________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use o= f the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidenti= al, legally privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicabl= e law. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 13:46:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A90210656DC for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74358FC12 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4cAe1f0020FhH24A8dmFeX; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:46:15 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4dmD1f00802K3z28UdmEBC; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:46:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20100909133052.GA5274@current.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:46:12 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20100909133052.GA5274@current.Sisis.de> To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Re: mount NTFS && can't write to it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:46:16 -0000 the default NTFS driver - a topic of much discussion here in the past = two months - does *not* support writing. Check ports for fuse-ntfs. On Sep 9, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I'm mounting an NTFS slice on an external USB drive as: >=20 > # mount -t ntfs /dev/da1s1 /mnt >=20 > I can see the data there with ls(1) but can't create any dir like > /mnt/dir nor touch a file like /mnt/file (ofc as root). > It alwaya says /mnt/dir: No such file or directory.=20 >=20 > The man page of mount_ntfs(8) does not explain what the problem could > be. This is with 8-CURRENT >=20 > Thx >=20 > matthias > --=20 > Matthias Apitz > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! > =BFSolidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? =A1No en mi = nombre! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 13:51:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB3010656B6 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (smtprelay-h31.telenor.se [213.150.131.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BCB8FC15 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43182EBF29 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:51:38 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgxAJuDiExV4js3PGdsb2JhbACDGZ4XDAEBAQE1LawmkWaBIoMndASNHA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,339,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="127647010" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2010 15:51:37 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o89DpYiW036203 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:51:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C88E666.2030208@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:51:34 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4C8825E7.5080000@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Any way to force AHCI mode on ICH8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:51:39 -0000 On 2010-09-09 13:04, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 09/09/10 02:10, Morgan Wesström wrote: >> I run FreeBSD 8.1 on an old Asus P5B-VM motherboard with ICH8. Its AMI >> BIOS lacks an option to enable AHCI mode. Intel's datasheet for the ICH8 >> family specifies that this feature exists on the ICH8, and the option is >> available in the BIOS for the identical (apart from form factor) P5B >> motherboard. >> >> http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/313056.pdf >> >> I've contacted Asus support for an updated BIOS but I don't have much >> hope I will ever see one. Would it be possible to patch the FreeBSD >> kernel to enable AHCI mode somehow during boot? > > You mean except adding: > > ahci_load="YES" > > to /boot/loader.conf ? > Yes, I meant if there was a way to programmatically switch the ICH8 into AHCI mode before loading ahci(4). The BIOS on this motherboard only provides a "legacy" and an "enhanced" option for the SATA controller. Neither option turns on AHCI mode so ata(4) attaches to the controller. There's also a JMicron controller, providing an eSATA connector, on this motherboard. It is AHCI compatible and ahci(4) attaches correctly to it. It would've been nice to be able to use NCQ and hotplug on the other SATA connectors too since the ICH8 has those features. Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 14:22:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C244D10656FB for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9348FC16 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oti1W-0004Wp-0X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:22:46 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o89EMjNj019069 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:22:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o89EMjif019068 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:22:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:22:45 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100909142245.GA19039@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD Questions References: <20100909133052.GA5274@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: mount NTFS && can't write to it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:22:48 -0000 El día Thursday, September 09, 2010 a las 08:46:12AM -0500, Ryan Coleman escribió: > the default NTFS driver - a topic of much discussion here in the past two months - does *not* support writing. Check ports for fuse-ntfs. thanks for the pointer, but this (using it) gave me a PANIC only :-( btw: do you think that one remember all what was said in the list in the last monthes? I think that a clear statement should be in the man page of mount_ntfs(8). thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 14:32:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980FF10656C0 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410EB8FC12 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o89ET8vY083400; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:29:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o89ET89k083399; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:29:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:29:08 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Pala, Santosh" Message-ID: <20100909142907.GA83383@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20100909112421.GA31640@ozzmosis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , andrew clarke , Guojun Jin Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:32:04 -0000 On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 01:11:39PM +0000, Pala, Santosh wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > The ls command with -E switch will give the required output. Doesn't for me. Says -E is an illegal option. Running FreeBSd 8.1 stock ls. On the other hand, ls -lD "%F %T %Z" does nicely. ////jerry > > Regards, > Pala. > ________________________________________ > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] on behalf of andrew clarke [mail@ozzmosis.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:24 PM > To: Guojun Jin > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital > > On Wed 2010-09-08 16:03:20 UTC-0700, Guojun Jin (gjin@ubicom.com) wrote: > > > I remember that "ls" can output date in digital like following format > > before > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 user Domain Users 54323 2010-09-08 14:12 crash.log > > > > Instead of Sep 08 2010 or Sep 08 11:07 > > > > But I cannot find any option or ENV to do this under FreeBSD (6.X-R). > > > > Does anyone have knowledge about this possibility? > > In FreeBSD 7.3 I use /usr/local/bin/gls installed from the > sysutils/coreutils port, and a tcsh alias for ls: > > ls gls --time-style=long-iso --color=auto > > 21:23 ozzmosis@blizzard [~]ls -ld / > drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 512 2010-09-05 03:11 / > > Regards > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Disclaimer: This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender, the sender's employer or such employer's parent company, affiliates or subsidiaries. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 17:10:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A6810656F2 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BF838FC1C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5943 invoked by uid 0); 9 Sep 2010 16:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 16:44:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=VJPT7OGHuDkjXHwEDE3pI+9gV3fgnsuNUkVLtW5js4ooffyFJnc6OImIbglqXL8vHqhR4yy5S4cq9uBUEDG3sXa9baSr8X6cUpU4qEipZFmDq/uhJ3qr4hLPpqQowm/p; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OtkEC-000471-IO for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:44:01 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:40:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:40:38 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: "questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20100909164038.GA57863@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "questions@freebsd.org" References: <20100909112421.GA31640@ozzmosis.com> <20100909142907.GA83383@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100909142907.GA83383@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: how to tell "ls" output date in digital X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:10:42 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 10:29:08AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 01:11:39PM +0000, Pala, Santosh wrote: >=20 > > Hi Andrew, > >=20 > > The ls command with -E switch will give the required output.=20 >=20 > Doesn't for me. > Says -E is an illegal option. It works with AT&T's version of ls, apparently. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work with either BSD ls or GNU ls, though, so I'm not sure how it ended up being mentioned in this discussion. >=20 > Running FreeBSd 8.1 stock ls. >=20 > On the other hand, ls -lD "%F %T %Z" does nicely. =2E . . and you can easily alias that to lsd for easier use (and a chuckle). Note that this doesn't work with GNU ls, because Stallman and MacKenzie in their infinite wisdom decided GNU ls needed -D to produce output tailored to some Emacs functionality. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyJDgYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWDLwCg6/4PVkQjKrhQVS+C2luGD7CL He4AoJofwA8uwTpgcZec+9s9WUzmWjFY =UcER -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 17:46:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC1010656CC for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115DE8FC24 for ; 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Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:24:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:46:58 -0000 I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and replace it with a non-symlink: To show the problem I am attempting to solve: foo: (owned by fred) arf: ack in barney's account: ln -s ~foo/ foo rm foo/arf/ack # Permissioin denied ... it should nuke the symlink and let me then do something like "touch foo/arf/ack Note there are over 500 files upto 5 dirs deep in the dir I want to symlink from.... the final application is our version control system (devel/aegis) keeps seperate repos for different source code projects (for obvious reasons) and we want to make it so in normal operation we can symlink tne source tree from one project into an other but if we want to make a local modificiation to the "foreign" source tree all we have do is (sorry for the aegis commands but I think the idea is clear): rm src/foreign/foo.c aenf src/foreign/foo.c cp ~aegis/foreign/baselins/src/forgein.c vi src/foreign/foo.c # to make local modifications And before someone suggests a ar library we purposely *DO NOT* want the modified libs to be installed until later From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 17:50:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388E210656A8 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21028FC12 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o89HoU6M069624; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:50:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4C891E66.3010405@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:50:30 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100727 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aryeh Friedman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:50:32 -0000 On 09/09/10 18:24, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and > only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if > the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and > replace it with a non-symlink: cpio -pdl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 17:52:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B793B10656A7 for ; 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Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.184.223 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:52:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C891E66.3010405@qeng-ho.org> References: <4C891E66.3010405@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:52:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: Arthur Chance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:52:21 -0000 Should of mentioned that I was using C as an example we are in fact using Java and the archives in question are jar's On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 09/09/10 18:24, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> >> I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and >> only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if >> the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and >> replace it with a non-symlink: > > cpio -pdl > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 18:01:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F7A10656BF for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AED8FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o89I1qRB069855; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:01:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4C892110.9050104@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:01:52 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100727 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aryeh Friedman References: <4C891E66.3010405@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <4C891E66.3010405@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:01:53 -0000 On 09/09/10 18:50, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 09/09/10 18:24, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and >> only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if >> the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and >> replace it with a non-symlink: > > cpio -pdl Ack! Too quick to answer. That hard links, not symlinks. (Useful in its own way though.) cd $SRCDIR; find . -type d | cpio -pd $DESTDIR will create the directory structure. Linking the files will have to be left as an exercise for the reader as I have to go out. I'd use find for the job, but I'm sure someone will come up with some Perl. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 18:13:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1B610656C9 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEB58FC0A for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc21 with SMTP id 21so87264pvc.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D1f02oH48/9chH+RLQTV0HG9CKucnfbtnpdx3DwWr88=; b=TKFpa+Oq6Q2tmjgMr96j5+1Qwvj2BSE3JJ2mxFdt4HeTgmk2e5MQ58oG78FaqShrws 9KBU9Y8doaflhrnhJC68/C7yD9DMjX3hhYlm6/3p2Wg6Nt95U4Z1Stf68+6n05+fWr6v ngu8+Npz54Xh0WQilQBsGvqi3ztEqRb5xjj7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lk6qHPbO4kYLi27VhTp8nEVURAm61H4sZViVKhfq2RoFLr7BdRvtj1U5uEFEpvfQTb FT/VKmBPIRRurLBRMdQxM9uErOavZsTg8PXgoU5U5tX6oBNjDG/w6LMeYUbTYhAoWRuB 62XMLJvGg9m1mcd+DQosOAzLf+x3pRa+iRaeA= Received: by 10.142.241.17 with SMTP id o17mr204907wfh.240.1284056000577; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-14-170-47.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.170.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm1381068ibh.16.2010.09.09.11.13.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8923BC.4080209@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:13:16 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:13:21 -0000 On 9/9/2010 12:24 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and > only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if > the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and > replace it with a non-symlink: > > To show the problem I am attempting to solve: > > foo: (owned by fred) > arf: > ack > > in barney's account: > > ln -s ~foo/ foo > rm foo/arf/ack # Permissioin denied ... it should nuke the symlink > and let me then do something like "touch foo/arf/ack This should give you at least a good start: find foo/ \( -type d -exec mkdir -p copy/'{}' \; \) -o \( -type f -exec ln -s '{}' copy/'{}' \; \) That'll copy directory foo into copy/foo and the rest is fine. You'll have to tweak the rest as you need but it'll get you started. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 18:25:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE7610656C8 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86A58FC12 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so724675pzk.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HL14xcEvDTbTGZIG07D4/uWLJhhJXisJKtPYLsGS3Jw=; b=NOQsVmNAvpCZC3DKnnQ5RKCqgcaaTbiuSaX0lB3khAZojeQoMCKmiF6wfKTlgptSHF l4p8EkWpqwxCyTBPdsy/KAd2KpvJLTjeekt4hjIzDqbmDSHR+M5e8yjoTJXNfHqvdBIh kN/9ueHNdzSaARUdUH5WZyRuyaXSEGke24Lak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wFY/5GpJYT9K+6+D/9ABWwEn/DZ9PQ5LnBEtlr6oq35RwGkobEKE5fs3RVM3mkxFKW 7iiidUqt0AMZSOLnWsyktoWNfipBkYWovkwGErNi1OAP72cN8ehTLaSz5s6ndGZui0WS qMRwb8BEeuA7DjfnqtL61jhRYDfdHHBT97QvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.231.4 with SMTP id d4mr170198wfh.222.1284056741255; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.184.223 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C8923BC.4080209@gmail.com> References: <4C8923BC.4080209@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:25:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: Joshua Isom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:25:42 -0000 After playing around here is what I came up with (cpio -l never did the links right): #!/bin/tcsh foreach i ( `find ~aegis/fnre/baseline/src/ -type d | grep -v src/build | cut -f6- -d'/'` ) mkdir $i end foreach i ( `find ~aegis/fnre/baseline/src/ -type f -name '*.java' | grep -v src/build | cut -f6- -d'/'` ) ln -s ~aegis/fnre/baseline/$i $i end On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 9/9/2010 12:24 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> >> I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and >> only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if >> the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and >> replace it with a non-symlink: >> >> To show the problem I am attempting to solve: >> >> foo: (owned by fred) >> =A0 =A0 arf: >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ack >> >> in barney's account: >> >> ln -s ~foo/ foo >> rm foo/arf/ack =A0 =A0# Permissioin denied ... it should nuke the symlin= k >> and let me then do something like "touch foo/arf/ack > > This should give you at least a good start: > > find foo/ \( -type d -exec mkdir -p copy/'{}' \; \) -o \( -type f -exec l= n > -s '{}' copy/'{}' \; \) > > That'll copy directory foo into copy/foo and the rest is fine. =A0You'll = have > to tweak the rest as you need but it'll get you started. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 18:46:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C5610656C3 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043C58FC20 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [109.41.160.76] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Otm8I-0004Xr-Np for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:46:03 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. 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(8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o89ImwJP001204 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:48:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:48:57 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100909184856.GA1195@tiny.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 109.41.160.76 Subject: Re: installing FreeBSD in VMWare-player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:46:05 -0000 I could solve the boot problem of the USB key in the older laptop of my wife by inserting into /boot/loader.conf the line kern.cam.scsi_delay="10000" (note: set kern.cam.boot_delay did not help) matthias -- Matthias Apitz «...una sola vez, que es cuanto basta si se trata de verdades definitivas.» «...only once, which is enough if it has todo with definite truth.» José Saramago, Historia del Cerca de Lisboa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 18:55:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA99C1065696 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0868C3C235=msk@blackops.org) Received: from medusa.blackops.org (medusa.blackops.org [208.69.40.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E0D8FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from medusa.blackops.org (msk@localhost.blackops.org [127.0.0.1]) by medusa.blackops.org (8.14.4/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o89IeJ5w094270 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msk@blackops.org) X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v1.0.0 medusa.blackops.org o89IeJ5w094270 Authentication-Results: medusa.blackops.org; sender-id=fail (NotPermitted) header.from=msk@blackops.org; spf=fail (NotPermitted) smtp.mfrom=msk@blackops.org X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.2.0 medusa.blackops.org o89IeJ5w094270 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=blackops.org; s=medusa3; t=1284057621; bh=GmDMWmeI1mZ6r7Zsi7oI4yzmA4VH7kPJfmvg7CsseO4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; z=X-Authentication-Warning:=20medusa.blackops.org:=20msk=20owned=20 process=20doing=20-bs|Date:=20Thu,=209=20Sep=202010=2011:40:19=20- 0700=20(PDT)|From:=20"Murray=20S.=20Kucherawy"=20|To:=20questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20freebsd-update=20question |Message-ID:=20|User-Agent:=20Alpine=202.00=20(BSF=201167=202008-08-23)|MIM E-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20TEXT/PLAIN=3B=20format=3Dflowed=3 B=20charset=3DUS-ASCII; b=0AhI+rHzJOndyX88SD3Wk8JmjcFMWlj7PitPiLA3e2Vh2GXcKKgI/bjaK3KOEA5aP npeaoUhukr792TQsWmETotldgnxNjWZ2AL++za/DlQ6+lArLfQIxSL66BxAV5ngOF0 diB2SJ9wRVcBHM+P8iCuQ9bCLNgnlwjwXoWeYmWs= Received: from localhost (msk@localhost) by medusa.blackops.org (8.14.4/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id o89IeJxn094267 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msk@blackops.org) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.blackops.org: msk owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:40:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on medusa.blackops.org Cc: Subject: freebsd-update question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:55:29 -0000 Hi, I'm reading http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html in preparation for an update of a 6.2-RELEASE machine in a colocation faciilty. However, that page says 6.3 or later is needed to do it via the freebsd-update(8) mechanism. Are there any references for using freebsd-update for a 6.2 installation, or am I looking at doing the update from source as per http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html? Thanks, -MSK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 19:31:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCC510656CD for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2068FC18 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o89JUwQv034887 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:31:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C8935EB.1050102@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:30:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8A09648AE288564DF17BE4C7" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:31:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8A09648AE288564DF17BE4C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/09/2010 19:40:19, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > I'm reading > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgr= ading-freebsdupdate.html > in preparation for an update of a 6.2-RELEASE machine in a colocation > faciilty. However, that page says 6.3 or later is needed to do it via > the freebsd-update(8) mechanism. >=20 > Are there any references for using freebsd-update for a 6.2 > installation, or am I looking at doing the update from source as per > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.htm= l? Yes. 6.2 is long out of support, so you will need to use the makeworld route to get to something more recent. 6.4 is just about to go out of support -- you should be able to buildworld to that version, and then use freebsd-update to get to something up to date. Or just use the buildworld route to get to the latest (it takes some time for all the compilation but works reliably) -- you might be able to get to 8.1 in one step, but I think that's probably unlikely. You should always be able to update from the latest version on any major branch to any version on the next branch, so 6.2 -> 6.4 -> 7.3 -> 8.1 should work. You will need to rebuild all your ports for a major version upgrade, although (if it isn't obvious) if you're going to go up two major versions, you only need to rebuild all the ports once at the end of the process of updating the system. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8A09648AE288564DF17BE4C7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyJNfIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyBPQCfZWJ9XfLyNdNfmIGH3CkIk/b8 mE8Anj3xiE7Acb/vLM3d+HPdwLv8aWOg =Y5FZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8A09648AE288564DF17BE4C7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 19:41:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8564C10656E8 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redtick@sbcglobal.net) Received: from web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29DE28FC22 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 72733 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Sep 2010 19:14:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1284059682; bh=VnEF/M3oWLdytxgxeBJqTR4eGlFSKCeIApXat2YV6+0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TKa37jW29bGF1+hvOhO2z7l8luBODPkbS1uv9TJLHbHlHwtGrjfOl3pf5IuKdZzZHGxl9jYnWhDO91k17A9zbudeQzIc1TDhDxX5P9NOlSKOVMwg3T3l49iEvRhSQtlgyzO8BuVGgUZ6uCx8Oxy9s/Q2Ruy7rnM1xkyp2SgIlMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oIzFdyyTffDvKHYywQIXDZs151UkmJmszVenQwpjKS6/bpsjPbOAcx0C0hSCy33NcfyzlEyev3LW8nBhEjcGzQljGc5n/qj6TZwdUW4vwTHRC7AHVkQn7w//WXy7DSbwguId0w7A9xhbXk5fwKuU5kTmpaAVDwV9o6QX9Rwt/XQ=; Message-ID: <923843.69747.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: itaM7awVM1kOH_KoBIJdmD9mu.9u8z4oe.NaMSA6SjpfpUu 9k4Ln0k79_7aZ_8oMm.xMa1oCI6XKamlOMssUf1m4kVvbVugk19skAEW1g3b XjJ.PvN8n0x.3BGyrurEcVQ2c2SvBdMd5pBcbGsA3lwie9UU4Fo0kjSG4qcu NVrbOyXegXp1gFdOv1KRLF_WNx6Y.CtNRy1qe7k2jCvYYTmSP5JbVyUTCcXZ Xz_114nHSb_qmOiw3mOWDLtAVXtIAMzqd5oPlTZ0z9DB9cwCGDhC9lQgsQsI XogBubaOqBzIHS2zRopBORHhvCdMBbscGd40Wm7AFg8YAFX2KVWdpS10LLgL ejR.ffKSXzXF2Y5k986dcJe2Z7kLaJQ-- Received: from [75.41.234.83] by web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:14:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:14:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: help help Subject: Re: freebsd-update question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:41:24 -0000 --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > From: Murray S. Kucherawy > Subject: freebsd-update question > To: questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 1:40 PM > Hi, >=20 > I'm reading http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/upd= ating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > in preparation for an update of a 6.2-RELEASE machine in a > colocation faciilty.=A0 However, that page says 6.3 or > later is needed to do it via the freebsd-update(8) > mechanism. >=20 > Are there any references for using freebsd-update for a 6.2 > installation, or am I looking at doing the update from > source as per > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html? >=20 > Thanks, > -MSK > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 Depending on how the computer is used, to bring it up to 8.1 I'd backup dat= a, config files, make a list of installed software and do a reinstall. The = time it takes to build world, merg files and rebuild software a fresh insta= ll may be quicker than to try the jump from 6.2 to 8.1. YMMV From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 20:05:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B90F10656A4 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF898FC08 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:05:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.5, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_05 -0.50) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: o89JmxUU005335 Received: from kobe.laptop (79.103.63.75.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [79.103.63.75]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.2) with ESMTP id o89JmxUU005335 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:49:06 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o89JmsxD098249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:48:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o89JmrMX098235; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:48:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Aryeh Friedman References: Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:48:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Aryeh Friedman's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:24:50 -0400") Message-ID: <87bp86r93u.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:05:50 -0000 On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:24:50 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and > only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if > the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and > replace it with a non-symlink: > > To show the problem I am attempting to solve: > > foo: (owned by fred) > arf: > ack > > in barney's account: > > ln -s ~foo/ foo > rm foo/arf/ack # Permissioin denied ... it should nuke the symlink > and let me then do something like "touch foo/arf/ack If you don't mind creating the local directories in one run, and then symlinking everything else, you can use something like: cd bar ( cd ~foo ; find . -type d ) | xargs mkdir -p ( cd ~foo ; find . \! -type d ) | while read fname ; do ln -s ~foo/"$fname" "$fname" done From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 20:29:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F4510656DE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp8.server.rpi.edu (smtp8.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB2B8FC19 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [128.113.124.121] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.124.121]) by smtp8.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o89KT0At002341; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:29:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:28:59 -0400 To: Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Mailing List From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.10 () [Hold at 15.00] COMBINED_FROM X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.228 Cc: Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:29:28 -0000 At 1:24 PM -0400 9/9/10, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and >only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if >the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and >replace it with a non-symlink: > >To show the problem I am attempting to solve: > >foo: (owned by fred) > arf: > ack > >in barney's account: > >ln -s ~foo/ foo >rm foo/arf/ack # Permissioin denied ... it should nuke the symlink >and let me then do something like "touch foo/arf/ack > >Note there are over 500 files upto 5 dirs deep in the dir I want to >symlink from.... the final application is our version control system >(devel/aegis) keeps seperate repos for different source code projects >(for obvious reasons) and we want to make it so in normal operation we >can symlink tne source tree from one project into an other but if we >want to make a local modificiation to the "foreign" source tree all we >have do is (sorry for the aegis commands but I think the idea is >clear): I believe early X11-distributions had a script called "lndir" would pretty much do exactly what you want here. And then there was a companion command called "breakln" which would remove the symlink and make a copy of the original file to replace it. I don't know if X11 still has these commands (I haven't installed X11 in at least 10 years), but I have my own versions of them. Let me know if you can't find them, and I'll send you copies of my scripts. (actually, I'm not 100% sure I got these from X11. But I got them from somewhere in the mid-1990's) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 20:35:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4458710656DC for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9658FC13 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EB5011103; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Aryeh Friedman References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.6; tzolkin = 2 Cimi; haab = 19 Mol Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:35:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Aryeh Friedman's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:24:50 -0400") Message-ID: <86bp86mz9h.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:35:07 -0000 >>>>> "Aryeh" == Aryeh Friedman writes: Aryeh> I want to make it so every file is a seperate symlink in dir2 if and Aryeh> only if it is a regular file (not a dir) in dir1... the reason is if Aryeh> the file is unchanged then use symlink but I can rm the symlink and Aryeh> replace it with a non-symlink: Are you committed to symlinks? I think null-mounts would do what you're trying to do... as in, as long as you're reading, you're reading from the old stuff, but if you ever write something new, all the right bits get created in the new dir. But I'm new to null-mounts, so I could be wrong. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 20:38:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E406C10656D5 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED3E8FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B26551116; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:38:00 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Aryeh Friedman References: <86bp86mz9h.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.6; tzolkin = 2 Cimi; haab = 19 Mol Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:38:00 -0700 In-Reply-To: <86bp86mz9h.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> (Randal L. Schwartz's message of "Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:35:06 -0700") Message-ID: <867hiumz4n.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:38:01 -0000 >>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: Randal> I think null-mounts would do what you're trying to do... as in, as long Randal> as you're reading, you're reading from the old stuff, but if you ever Randal> write something new, all the right bits get created in the new dir. Randal> But I'm new to null-mounts, so I could be wrong. And I meant "mount_unionfs", not null mounts. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 20:57:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D45B10656E7 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55E098FC17 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8574 invoked by uid 0); 9 Sep 2010 20:57:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2010 20:57:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=lbnXk1BtKLCngtMgEsP4fIJJCwxqZfIMUOj5n3/DnszRdiTO7KbI4wVbyCJgB9bXCQoUGJ1Xzl9v7TIVaByjV7y+ILls9BlHblLT3tOcwKK7GIZjVRl3Zmvkau99BoSF; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OtoBn-0005Mq-4z for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:57:48 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:54:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:54:24 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100909205424.GA58499@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:57:49 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 04:28:59PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: >=20 > I believe early X11-distributions had a script called "lndir" > would pretty much do exactly what you want here. And then > there was a companion command called "breakln" which would > remove the symlink and make a copy of the original file to > replace it. lndir is in ports: > pkgsearch lndir /usr/ports/devel/lndir I'm not so sure about a "breakln" being anywhere accessible, other than whatever tools you have handy. >=20 > I don't know if X11 still has these commands (I haven't > installed X11 in at least 10 years), but I have my own > versions of them. Let me know if you can't find them, and > I'll send you copies of my scripts. I'd like to see what you have, even if the OP doesn't need them. Are they of your own making, or copied from somewhere? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyJSYAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVrFwCcDJ2SIOcfMdhDk4BIfSl7cU5r G84AoIo6g6DtlCKf7o2f1O2xKmjAdRce =o+WH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 21:34:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCC010656D8; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508868FC17; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so1874612bwz.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:34:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=tUvxLvaIpPw+6LmC3dEAXGxOtYNsQZr9VEg/N0wPUj8=; b=LgEmlW1hmlGrjNev92d4Im/IQdBeem3Xry5HI0Tc7GgBkylgNenNwifNT6ggjqmEU5 qn4a8/vrjnzhQpQT+KSdsUE9YG3PslZ5hcN6Mz9d/ZqECz6LESAsTe2Jvdqd9n+XaIE2 RGWoFUYxhYurJCIQURwiy4oczMxHGyNRMjeqo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Bv8NflsYwyNDqMnAGZ6l8FWsbjYpPaRcE2t1iPBpw1YWUzIaIQAmD2lhO4n4LzRcYc HJzfPm9XLc5+Hfu4J3z3eF72vzZyu4bhRyhzBfWIK0A1pRexpSik8ADljnBjb2Co6oTg 5ts/q/ALRs+m8GcZb/cw1w0oM/etXgjGJav9I= Received: by 10.204.59.69 with SMTP id k5mr917272bkh.195.1284066198151; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.99.205 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:02:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jules Gilbert Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:02:58 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:34:22 -0000 About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. Some questions: Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way to do this. Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting the FreeBSD community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 21:43:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303211065702 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D46D8FC1D for ; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so1509445fxm.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AO3T89bygOqYw6y97DrwP58TGak5U3/GqXftFb/ZysM=; b=ju1Qj4rZL6EUjdmb+OS8h9l7rG7uwYSz+nmEFI4KOK9KITcWj4akqqPjx9wruoO6m3 qF/2YRjbRCdF5Jt5AOpY+rZq527bS7KGF2Cb+lRkq+6BXScARbQIDk5yqca3goRqpRAM +DGZHWFYNzzg6cfAJR/hvONhXN4ux8ngAvr4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FHfZNxgcdmMhiT9eTuT/0BRtq2iy8SwCIzbZPAjzksQuHO0Wp2+ImNuvW++tf/EAkT X3h2vqJnqsIMx0j4WCUq2KiWyjSqulyepAHJ72uuSeNASZxZfNnErRH1NeSX8B0cdWqL j4R4ioS04bwgoVCBwvy9fDgb58lMMP/d9MEpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.125.131 with SMTP id y3mr349011far.9.1284068616222; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:43:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:43:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jules Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:43:38 -0000 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jules Gilbert wrote: > About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. > > Some questions: > > Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. > No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. > > I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. > Works fine for me as long as you stick with firefox35 > Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way > to do this. > > Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past > three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting > the FreeBSD community. > I believe the FreeBSD Foundation is still accepting donations. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 9 21:46:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3FF1065697; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638CC8FC17; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2A7A91272; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:46:37 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Jules Gilbert References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.6; tzolkin = 2 Cimi; haab = 19 Mol Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:46:37 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jules Gilbert's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:02:58 -0400") Message-ID: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:46:37 -0000 >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: Jules> Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look Jules> around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something Jules> that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. You mean something that looks like Java but isn't Java? That's precisely what the Oracle v. Google suit is about. Dangerous road to go down at this point. Or do you mean something that isn't even Java, but has a lot of Java-like features? I think you're describing "everything else already available in production". Plenty of choices. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 00:23:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521261065694 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:23:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp7.server.rpi.edu (smtp7.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180588FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [128.113.124.121] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.124.121]) by smtp7.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8A0NABt027493; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:23:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20100909205424.GA58499@guilt.hydra> References: <20100909205424.GA58499@guilt.hydra> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:23:09 -0400 To: Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.10 () [Hold at 15.00] COMBINED_FROM X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.227 Cc: Aryeh Friedman Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:23:59 -0000 At 2:54 PM -0600 9/9/10, Chad Perrin wrote: >On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 04:28:59PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: >> >> I believe early X11-distributions had a script called "lndir" >> would pretty much do exactly what you want here. And then >> there was a companion command called "breakln" which would >> remove the symlink and make a copy of the original file to >> replace it. > >lndir is in ports: > > > pkgsearch lndir > /usr/ports/devel/lndir > >I'm not so sure about a "breakln" being anywhere accessible, >other than whatever tools you have handy. >I'd like to see what you have, even if the OP doesn't need >them. Are they of your own making, or copied from somewhere? It looks like my 'lndir' script started out as a copy of a script named 'lndir.sh' that the XConsortium had in Oct 1988. Over the years I added a number of features to it. Looking at the 'lndir' which is installed by the port, it seems to have added some of those same features, but my script writes out it's progress in a nicer format (IMO). Given that the port is written in C and much more recent, I suspect it is the right way to go. For large directories it is much faster than my script. I should check to see how much work it'd be to add my formatting to the C version. The 'breakln' script might be something written here at RPI. Looks like the last change to it was done in 1993. It is pretty simple: #!/bin/sh # # All the arguments are turned into copies of themselves, # and write access is granted to the user. This is good # for making exceptions to trees built with lndir. # if [ $# = 0 ]; then echo "Usage: $0 files..." exit fi for f in $* ; do mv $f $f.tmpln cp -p $f.tmpln $f rm $f.tmpln chmod u+w $f done -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 00:28:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDC91065670 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A71E8FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19854 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2010 00:28:13 -0000 Received: from s4.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.122]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Sep 2010 00:28:13 -0000 Message-ID: <4C897B9A.8060908@speakeasy.net> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:28:10 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:28:14 -0000 On 09/09/10 14:02, Jules Gilbert wrote: > About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. > > Some questions: > > Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. > No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. > > I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. > > Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? > > Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way > to do this. > > cd /usr/ports/java/jdk make make install > Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past > three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting > the FreeBSD community. > Help you with what? Their silly little distribution policy is annoying. It doesn't prevent you from running java. Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 03:10:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B49B106566C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 148558FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19106 invoked by uid 0); 10 Sep 2010 03:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2010 03:10:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=CQTjg7ilK6G2iXz9zh5hLZkycweIhA7bVTcWV/uDI34btFxx/FNM1efHuexbZV7SOC46reuqK6AXEYNc5VdZ2LUBy0RJa2NLEtN/AjMBlq1HBaDUpGcNXXQuNnHF8FaM; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Otu0h-0008HI-Dt for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:10:44 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:07:19 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:07:19 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100910030719.GA59314@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100909205424.GA58499@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: how to recursively symlink every file in a dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:10:46 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 08:23:09PM -0400, Garance A Drosehn wrote: >=20 > It looks like my 'lndir' script started out as a copy of a > script named 'lndir.sh' that the XConsortium had in Oct 1988. [snip] >=20 > Given that the port is written in C and much more recent, I > suspect it is the right way to go. For large directories it > is much faster than my script. I should check to see how > much work it'd be to add my formatting to the C version. >=20 > The 'breakln' script might be something written here at RPI. > Looks like the last change to it was done in 1993. It is > pretty simple: [snip] Thanks for the information and the breakln script. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyJoOcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXX9gCfb50pM6+4dEVgL3R7xbWh0ftb 5Y8AoOk8EvhglwAAuBGiaRZdc9pWf9cj =zEgw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 03:41:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8DF1065670 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.dave.jones@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6171A8FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so2382773vws.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:41:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=29uza/4e7uWmoefSYFSnOp5QTwKxvlJ8AZPEWY6rkB4=; b=aeC3p6xyP/UQL394bC2QkYITOELlm0JHNw85X7b1G4RWoZ9PfHTgtIKeHXP3sed1cI bu19tbvPN9jwIRFAWHuSykMBqCf3F817TNlK02a/+1vq5h3cUIWvUeSvWdlGO9bv0o8g 9AqFmYP4WvBb/Ol7HyTHDbZe4wmI8qLIBKDhE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ToXS7JU07CHocXOJCFAdHJVt/alwFHUnmvr0A+pPzyF6NQT+utljSn5S81vHoAfNxV YoyC7Nl7Q6TT/OSPzM2mnmdGD2lLCMZMR5z0IV8usb3eh0IyBmYUkM25wB5UovCPGUJq 0z9krh6p3QB1M9DbZil0VmCvOz1ezknDrRr/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.159.14 with SMTP id h14mr110926vcx.115.1284090107576; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.202.138 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:41:47 +0800 Message-ID: From: dave jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Questions about setting bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:41:48 -0000 Hello, I want to setup a bridge in a ring topology since a break at any point along the ring would still leave all stations connected. My machine has two nics. In /etc/rc.conf, I have: ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0" cloned_interfaces="bridge0" ifconfig_em0="up" ifconfig_em1="up" ifconfig_bridge0="addm em0 addm em1 up" ifconfig_bridge0_alias0="192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" I tried to boot my clients using tftpd, but it seems doesn't work if I unpluged em0. If I run "ifconfig em1 inet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0" then my clients can boot via tftpd. But it's not a bridge, right? I mean should I configure the same ip for em0, em1, and bridge0? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 04:39:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2E3106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9F68FC15 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OtvOg-0005Zy-Fy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:39:34 -0700 Message-ID: <29673647.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:39:34 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com Subject: wine doesnot work after upgrading to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:39:36 -0000 The wine works great when using freebsd 8.0. Yesterday i upgrading FB 8.0 t= o 8.1, the wine cannot display window without any message even if reinstallin= g wine under FB 8.1 . >uname -a FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #1: Wed Sep 8 09:07:54 CST 2010 =20 root@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 >pkg_info|grep wine wine-1.3.2_2,1 Microsoft Windows compatibility layer for Unix-like systems Any suggestion is appreciated! ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/wine-doesnot-work-after= -upgrading-to-8.1--tp29673647p29673647.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 06:51:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3580106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AA98FC1D for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so1775181fxm.13 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:51:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vTmG/YxdmQL8O0TGvUUeDUlxMgeyVfme/Z+yJYJ4ywk=; b=Xam7x7fiGS7hQvfphUHl6h/KUjOvOckC78SFI9ATDLCKjrt+eeia5kNF3uOKryDz3L pc2c/wbGXdKUAQaixDaDn/Tkx8fOIHKKF6p5wEKeyWcyWiOQbdRPaHsjsZBTjwJqkwe5 /IVmpN0RqnHYfs5ff7Ya9wOI0b8EkZoVQgL3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Z3kRRO6yHvfpF+y1dJWeqBPEMQTG2l1G2TdC+b8/lZLloCxzYoNhFA8entMoB4eq+H GX38oPuK/eSqWL4XQ6W0BLBmQ71E0gDIeTm3PlhSpKqGAsa0cpbacL7KhhQa/7ln/umu R3bsqFHZTlPqox4Z7ipKfk2gdWuXeySq8JpPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.81 with SMTP id e17mr81622fap.28.1284101499438; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:51:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: dave jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about setting bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:51:41 -0000 > > I want to setup a bridge in a ring topology since a break at any point > along the ring would > still leave all stations connected. My machine has two nics. In > /etc/rc.conf, I have: > > ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0" > cloned_interfaces="bridge0" > ifconfig_em0="up" > ifconfig_em1="up" > ifconfig_bridge0="addm em0 addm em1 up" > ifconfig_bridge0_alias0="192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" > > I tried to boot my clients using tftpd, but it seems doesn't work if I > unpluged > em0. If I run "ifconfig em1 inet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0" then > my clients can boot via tftpd. But it's not a bridge, right? > I mean should I configure the same ip for em0, em1, and bridge0? > 192.168.1.0/24 is not a valid address. Your addressable hosts are 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254. I think you want to lagg: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-aggregation.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 09:20:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBFC106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6838FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local (lonfw01.namesco.net [195.7.254.100] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8A9KG4U091622 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:20:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C89F84F.9090409@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:20:15 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Dual booting with OSX without bootcamp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:20:19 -0000 Hi all, Work has kindly supplied a shiny new macbook pro (6,2) so I've re-partitioned it (OSX's grow/shrink partitions/filesystems online is handy) and now have an EFI partition (hidden,) OSX partition, FreeBSD / partition, ZFS partition for the rest and a swap partition. I've stuck with GPT to avoid reinstalling and the fiddly process that is installing anything but windows via bootcamp without trashing the system. FreeBSD was installed by using the DVD with the livefs, Partitioning of free space done with gpart, and install done with the shell scripts (in /dist/8.1-RELEASE/{kernel,base,whatever} adapted from the instructions here http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/3/20/installing-freebsd-onto-a-usb-stick ) The problem is booting it, my initial hope was that rEFIt would just work, but no joy. Next I looked for an EFI loader for freebsd and found http://blogs.freebsdish.org/rpaulo/2008/09/03/so-you-want-to-test-the-freebsdi386-efi-boot-loader/ but it still wont quite boot a kernel so no joy. Next came grub2 as this will boot freebsd and also has EFI support, however the EFI support doesnt support FreeBSD, so I cant find a way to boot . So currently I can only boot FreeBSD by booting a grub2 CDROM, tellit it to look at the config file on my mac partition, then booting freebsd using that, If anyone has a better suggestion I'd welcome it. Other than that it seems to be working ok, no wireless support as its a broadcom 43224 which doesn't seem to be supported, however I see that broadcom have just opensourced their linux drivers (including for the 43224) so maybe that will open the way to more support in the BSDs too. In the mean time I'll try ndiswrapper or just use a usb device, I may try take it up to 9-CURRENT so i get atp(4) and see if anything else relevant has been improved. If anyone else has a simpler way of booting (without needing to use bootcamp/the fakembr etc as I'm happy to never have to use fdisk/bsdlabel again ;) then I'd be interested to hear it, I did see if i could use grub2efi to boot grub2 (non efi), or use rEFIt to boot grub2 (non efi) from a file to avoid the cdrom but no joy. Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 09:34:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADF110656CE; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5E98FC17; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local (lonfw01.namesco.net [195.7.254.100] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8A9Y0ot092170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:34:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C89FB87.1090206@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:33:59 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jules Gilbert References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:34:02 -0000 On 09/09/2010 22:02, Jules Gilbert wrote: > About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. > > Some questions: > > Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. > No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. > > I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. Looks like you might be in luck the thread here http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gecko/2010-September/001099.html shows that there are 2 ports of icedtea including a plugin for firefox 3.6 in progress. It looks like the one at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2010-September/008806.html is in a better state at the moment. Vince > Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? > > Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way > to do this. > > Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past > three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting > the FreeBSD community. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 10:38:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCA71065679; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jules.stocks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1578FC23; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so2442325bwz.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:38:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3vaH7h1zGWS0hSOvdRgwScuZcXn+Tb8I8klfFQ59Ruw=; b=vPP70+KPh4jWcWbfPExhjln1Cou+mDTOiJ4YwOFxoxtL4dxPpwFztqc5fAplWLXAoE PXQpobls+9V5OExXvMHbIQt8j2t+caJTn89M3rIRpHEqee2bUKQfrJ4HB7OD4C3UEaAu /s9IBWp81+08lyBcfIDTKi6tlfn9+F7P/m9p4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OSDBO2J1VGonieRPvScA6IEaT1rzMxAoi7FOpkSgx/6wSb4E3jmHUCuZUBdnFnVjBx jyDZ09AfU7wnI/GgLJ635/GWjod/S7KVe0KeEbwX7Ac3RWL2satFbLfXyKp/+qvTyZgD 4iN/Wme20DYrgUidnuZ57FlgOtgKuxMsznnF8= Received: by 10.204.64.78 with SMTP id d14mr430022bki.63.1284115101194; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:38:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.99.205 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:38:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> From: Jules Gilbert Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:38:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:38:23 -0000 Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a browser. I didn't even know that Google and Oracle weren't getting along, I really am out of date. (All I do is code.) But here's the thing: almost no one can make a java enabled browser, and lot's of us need exactly that, java running on our browsers. So obviously this means that something is seriously wrong -- and worse, when I asked "how", no one came back and said "Oh, you obviously didn't install such-and-such a patch, do that and everything will work." No, and worse, the responses are all about possible solutions in the distant not-known-when-and-only-maybe future. I do think we should all get behind this Beat fellow, he's beat@freebsd.org, his work seems closest to bringing up a java-enabled browser, with zero or at least few problems. --jg On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Now an opinion. =A0If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should loo= k > Jules> around for an alternative, even inventing something else, somethin= g > Jules> that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > You mean something that looks like Java but isn't Java? > > That's precisely what the Oracle v. Google suit is about. =A0Dangerous > road to go down at this point. > > Or do you mean something that isn't even Java, but has a lot of > Java-like features? > > I think you're describing "everything else already available in > production". =A0Plenty of choices. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 00= 95 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussi= on > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Fellow Christians!, Read Galatians, chapter three, verse 14. =A0Here Paul documents that Christians have been made part of God's original promise to Abraham, and that, because of Jesus, we are tied to these same promises. But don't for a moment imagine that God is done with the Jews!, no, God is even today working to fulfill every promise he made, even to save every person in Israel -- which God declares will be the case, for he say's that "all Israel will be saved." About this business with Iran... =A0Don't fret. =A0Jeremiah, who probably wrote the most about modern day Iran, advises us, beginning in chapter 34, verse 49, that Iran is going to lose big. =A0Yes, one day both Egypt and Iran, in fact all of south-Asia be a community of Christian nations. =A0(Both Isaiah and Zechariah make similar statements.) =A0In fact Zechariah say's that Gazan's will one day be elected, freely elected by Jews, to high offices in Israel. =A0Imagine that! But as my wife just told me! when I tried this on her, people aren't saved (or even helped,) by knowledge of prophecy, no, real assistance from the God of the Bible comes only one way; =A0By tying oneself to Jesus, by asking to partner with him. =A0He is the basis of help, of love, and change that brings with it God's love and assistance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 10:48:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B73106566C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585258FC0A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1216646gxk.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.92.16 with SMTP id p16mr673635ybb.144.1284115696203; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-147-230.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.147.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q25sm2511038ybk.6.2010.09.10.03.48.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BBA1FE54857 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:48:13 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100910064813.387f4ef0@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:48:17 -0000 On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:43:36 -0500 Adam Vande More articulated: > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jules Gilbert > wrote: > > > About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. > > > > Some questions: > > > > Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with > > Java. No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. > > > > I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. > > > > Works fine for me as long as you stick with firefox35 > > > Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right > > way to do this. > > > > Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look > > around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something > > that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. > > > > Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the > > past three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's > > hurting the FreeBSD community. > > I believe the FreeBSD Foundation is still accepting donations. Excepting donations != producing results. I will be happy to donate $100 US dollars to their fund once they distribute a fully up-to-date version of JAVA, not some reworked, deprecated version, that is fully compatible with Firefox on FreeBSD. I believe the current version of Java is Version 6 Update 21. It simply goes counter to my basic business model to contribute any monetary assistance to any open ended project. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 08:11:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187C01065672 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB7718FC18 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64875 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Sep 2010 08:11:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284106268; bh=CN4ugUztu6QvMxEXq4v/EVPKn5GF8M8Lfx9gjpidiU4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ob+fONQRy/xF1zWQD8dnpe1nWK+/eOsUSvOdvJCA8eKasEoYy4yQ5oTSZ0v559FW1Mt3NEjmicBVEF6zRBSDgb9gTC9YhgHJF+uYcawNjMaovvhVuy/nKE+ItQ+DQyxob7CSD8aPUQHT/lP0C4TAju5oSxP86OE1WQRC+hsmJI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XIJ53W73A++ddkHsAFcoSWrqutuy2Iw4x6T5nqcE+ImCIGVtgiUzCnAyy9AHAokpZ1rSMiptXc+60a9Kb7tzrEo+3uegxuBZUz5hRjGlppPl5/vlVk76OtnTYqNDfSdYNVnVlTBkb0r57iw6kpPut8GHVmVuwHVZWrFIoVY3nq8=; Message-ID: <250661.64584.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BLLPvcIVM1mG4HkqiuUpTYsysbF.66SoQl1CfPjK4Cq.9l_ WTfpVzKz6jLPV8pFqb8UMqjQec3f0r6iAmj04uPfvvGN.3Tiou2je4p_XYS1 bwUStTKzul.UHMI8OKfriIv4EOAe3kfUag0vFAJWoE25ZcZZNDWPR7b7nGs9 ner076Jh73JPPaQ2MlhtHBDHDvn9sS6efKsHV1iKBAINevlx2aXXvbyzg_M4 h5O9yExwlUagGrTYjmpmtHwqddJZKplRsnayiTwP8HmQRyT3i7sxCaPlSGYa Z3bfgfu8IW1CPokXRQdloYY0IbQ-- Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:11:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:11:08 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:16:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: CNID DB vs afp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:11:09 -0000 Hi, =0A=0AI having the following problem on my afpd share: "something wrong= witht he =0Avolume's CNID DB, using temporary CNIDB DB insted. Check serve= r messages for =0Adetails. Switching to read-only mode".=0AI am using FreeB= SD 8.0 for the afpd and OS-X 10.6.4, do you have any idea what =0Ato check?= =0A=0Athx!=0AL=E1szl=F3=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 08:43:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A291065670 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason_zhoa@126.com) Received: from m15-35.126.com (m15-35.126.com [220.181.15.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0F98FC1C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jason_zhoa ( [218.22.34.186] ) by ajax-webmail-wmsvr35 (Coremail) ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:11:51 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:11:51 +0800 (CST) From: jason To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <150b04a.1188c.12afab358b4.Coremail.jason_zhoa@126.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [218.22.34.186] X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version SP_ntes V3.5 build 100812(11364.3264.3250) Copyright (c) 2002-2010 www.mailtech.cn 126com X-CM-CTRLDATA: y+099WZvb3Rlcl9odG09ODE2OjE2Mw== X-CM-TRANSID: I8qowLCbfQRH6IlMlh0GAA--.2050W X-CM-SenderInfo: pmdv005b2k0ta6rslhhfrp/1tbiwQZI-EVthdN0RQAAs8 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1U5529EdanIXcx71UUUUU7vcSsGvfC2KfnxnUU== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:16:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.83.82 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:42:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <150b04a.1188c.12afab358b4.Coremail.jason_zhoa@126.com> References: <150b04a.1188c.12afab358b4.Coremail.jason_zhoa@126.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:12:55 -0430 Message-ID: From: Alberto Mijares To: jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lots of time_wait X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:42:57 -0000 2010/9/10 jason : > hello,i have a problem: > tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.26.9939 192.168.0.195.11211 TIME_WAIT > netstat -an | awk '{if($5 ~/11200/ && $6 ~/TIME_WAIT/) print $0}' | wc -l > 64203 > > sysctl net.inet.tcp.msl > net.inet.tcp.msl: 2500 > You should check the application's idle connections time out. Regards Alberto Mijares From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 11:56:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C2D106566C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D9A8FC19 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.149] (helo=smtp17.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou1jf-00041h-RM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:25:39 +0200 Received: from [84.25.59.18] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp17.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou1jf-0001Z6-B6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:25:39 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6964839856 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:25:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C8A15A8.3040700@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:25:28 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <250661.64584.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <250661.64584.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Ou1jf-0001Z6-B6 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.5, vereist 5, BAYES_50 0.00, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: CNID DB vs afp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:56:59 -0000 On 10-9-2010 10:11, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > I having the following problem on my afpd share: "something wrong witht= he=20 > volume's CNID DB, using temporary CNIDB DB insted. Check server message= s for=20 > details. Switching to read-only mode". > I am using FreeBSD 8.0 for the afpd and OS-X 10.6.4, do you have any id= ea what=20 > to check? >=20 try dbd -r /path/to/your/volume This will rebuild the DB. Also: check if cnid_metad is running. You might need cnid_metad_enable=3D"yes" in your rc.conf --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 12:55:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73241106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0A58FC16 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:55:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14339189 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:55:41 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8ACtZZt050582 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:55:41 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8ACtZuN050581 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:55:35 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:55:34 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100910125534.GA50527@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C864145.80805@gmx.com> <20100907145223.GA55660@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8754CD.6030003@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C8754CD.6030003@gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:55:44 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >A packet generated locally 1) should be forwarded by a 'fwd' > >rule and 2) should create a dynamic 'allow' rule for returning > >traffic. Could you please suggest a ruleset for this. > > The fw has the 10.0.0.1 IP address. > The 10.0.0.100 IP address belongs to another computer running a TCP > service at 9999. > > The IPFW rules: > >fw# ipfw list > >00100 fwd 10.0.0.100 tcp from any to 10.90.10.3 dst-port 9999 keep-state > >00200 deny ip from any to any > >65535 allow ip from any to any It seems that the 'fwd ... keep-state' statement does create a useful dynamic rule. It contradicts the ipfw(8) man page but works. Thank you for enlightment. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:11:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FB5106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A7E78FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82324 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Sep 2010 13:11:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1284124315; bh=Whvyuuz9/kv7hngdcVIibu/aVblxJy9dJsGqbHiNmzs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Fda+pMvja1dZ4iMmTEeftWf55UPxjfnfMn/PQehJwqkh/Kbc1hQPg399ZFoaCuH9VqfCyj3JLSjlAQryPIPAbU1wK8Otb2AL77dtQ3Gt52xVH/zxHWMvnsB6JxkWadqWixocKavFsB/DeJjK0lvgQQyuiirMOg8amckORFd90oY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jmcMwaxAYT1Hi44TAtgiPOktf9qdid5hzhaKz+qv0ybBu0jKonwS2LelCKCj+TJ/zs4n5h+S07scjgvNBVnKFAL7lFQGWSW1TS1V7+K3d1oa93TYUrjGTC+O3CfQX10lh/xqAE3xGNE/wZ861RNWbEInV4qZaRBOd7+KiKgQFiY=; Message-ID: <586151.53696.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _q8sy5UVM1nwWyqtE54bFy8l_qCkaf1xc4ogBXvKJtXRg6N AwZl41g4FLn7X7PNR1cXlUkv7PY2BcoevKqHicvQcqOU.Zgm99FqlIUK1C4_ VDziKd1ncQ.HtR2leWGY5lAQl3byjobTBH77CoEJJ3_TMiHSdT5vnVKt4ttB zLLLryJRp9eiFC45rLuLbt4YcgW06aB2yIo0_uPBpTzv0Ap8RwJ7lky3ZPHS vN2HNwZW8t5XujnrUMhY8u5Ygo0cN7Wla.fx.37SqBRvtZiy29lI_k9R.5JI 8rAYeusYB.LOrF5mhg_UvxX_Uqiw_bU6vD.qj0ZDHgVjwhUqe2VC3cd317im G Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:11:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <250661.64584.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C8A15A8.3040700@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4C8A15A8.3040700@boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: CNID DB vs afp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:11:56 -0000 Thank you!=0A=0AActually it was a the cnid failure, it wasn't running, now = its ok :-)=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Peter Booste= n =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Fri, Sept= ember 10, 2010 1:25:28 PM=0ASubject: Re: CNID DB vs afp=0A=0AOn 10-9-2010 1= 0:11, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 wrote:=0A> Hi, =0A> =0A> I having the followin= g problem on my afpd share: "something wrong witht he =0A> volume's CNID DB= , using temporary CNIDB DB insted. Check server messages for =0A> details. = Switching to read-only mode".=0A> I am using FreeBSD 8.0 for the afpd and O= S-X 10.6.4, do you have any idea what =0A=0A> to check?=0A> =0A=0Atry=0A=0A= dbd -r /path/to/your/volume=0A=0AThis will rebuild the DB.=0A=0AAlso: check= if cnid_metad is running. You might need=0A=0Acnid_metad_enable=3D"yes"=0A= =0Ain your rc.conf=0A=0A-- =0Ahttp://www.boosten.org=0A____________________= ___________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A= http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscrib= e, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:21:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120E1106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (smtprelay-h31.telenor.se [213.150.131.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB918FC19 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A3AE8A45; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:21:44 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.226.59.55] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak8wAF7NiUxV4js3PGdsb2JhbACDGJ4oDAEBAQE1LatHkVKBIoMndASNHA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,346,1280700000"; d="scan'208";a="129037859" Received: from c-373be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.55]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 10 Sep 2010 15:21:44 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8ADLgAd036919; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:21:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4C8A30E6.5090009@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:21:42 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4C8825E7.5080000@pp.dyndns.biz> <4C88E666.2030208@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: <4C88E666.2030208@pp.dyndns.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any way to force AHCI mode on ICH8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:21:47 -0000 On 2010-09-09 15:51, Morgan Wesström wrote: > On 2010-09-09 13:04, Ivan Voras wrote: >> On 09/09/10 02:10, Morgan Wesström wrote: >>> I run FreeBSD 8.1 on an old Asus P5B-VM motherboard with ICH8. Its AMI >>> BIOS lacks an option to enable AHCI mode. Intel's datasheet for the ICH8 >>> family specifies that this feature exists on the ICH8, and the option is >>> available in the BIOS for the identical (apart from form factor) P5B >>> motherboard. >>> >>> http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/313056.pdf >>> >>> I've contacted Asus support for an updated BIOS but I don't have much >>> hope I will ever see one. Would it be possible to patch the FreeBSD >>> kernel to enable AHCI mode somehow during boot? >> >> You mean except adding: >> >> ahci_load="YES" >> >> to /boot/loader.conf ? > > Yes, I meant if there was a way to programmatically switch the ICH8 into > AHCI mode before loading ahci(4). The BIOS on this motherboard only > provides a "legacy" and an "enhanced" option for the SATA controller. > Neither option turns on AHCI mode so ata(4) attaches to the controller. > There's also a JMicron controller, providing an eSATA connector, on this > motherboard. It is AHCI compatible and ahci(4) attaches correctly to it. > It would've been nice to be able to use NCQ and hotplug on the other > SATA connectors too since the ICH8 has those features. > Cross-posting this to freebsd-hackers in case that is a more appropriate list. On page 486, in the Intel I/O Controller Hub 8 (ICH8) Datasheet, there's a description of the address map register that controls the SATA mode selection (SMS). http://www.intel.com/assets/pdf/datasheet/313056.pdf I quote note 7: "Software shall not manipulate SMS during runtime operation (i.e., the OS will not do this). The BIOS may choose to switch from one mode to another during POST." That note is probably there for a reason but what would life be without experimentation? :-) This is of course far beyond my level of expertise, but would it be possible to flip the necessary register bit very early on in the boot process to turn the SATA controller into AHCI mode? Has anyone done anything like this and what part of the kernel or boot loader would be most appropriate to patch? I have no problem applying a patch and recompiling what's needed if anyone could provide the necessary code. Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:46:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E049106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1869ea9902=cbakken@roros.net) Received: from firmanett.no (mail.firmanett.no [79.161.108.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04A88FC16 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.29.230.142] by mail.firmanett.no (MDaemon PRO v11.0.3) with ESMTP id md50020790186.msg for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:27:10 +0200 X-Spam-Processed: mail.firmanett.no, Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:27:10 +0200 (not processed: spam filter heuristic analysis disabled) X-MDPtrLookup-Result: pass dns.ptr=revex01.rev.no (ip=195.204.18.8) (mail.firmanett.no) X-MDHeloLookup-Result: hardfail smtp.helo=[172.29.230.142] (does not match 195.204.18.8) (mail.firmanett.no) X-Authenticated-Sender: cbakken@roros.net X-MDRemoteIP: 195.204.18.8 X-Return-Path: prvs=1869ea9902=cbakken@roros.net X-Envelope-From: cbakken@roros.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Th=F8rn_Bakken?= Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:27:10 +0200 Message-Id: <871506CD-C75A-4672-950C-BBEFC44F3740@roros.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IBM server SAS controller support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cbakken@roros.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:35 -0000 I understand that you, Ivan, managed to install FreeBSD on an IBM Series = x 3650 M3 server with the LSI M1015 SAS/SATA RAID controller. =20 Ivan, did you tweak something to install, or did it work "out of the = box" for you? Which FreeBSD version did you install? My main objective is to install the appliance distro SpanTitan 5.04 from = www.spamtitan.com. It's based on FreeBSD 7.3 and the manufacturer = confirms that the mfi(4) driver is compiled into the kernel. I've also tried with another (vanilla) version of FreeBSD (8.1), but = with no luck. It just says there's no disk drives found. Regards Christian T. Bakken= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:46:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433FB1065697; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1978FC14; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB7F919A7; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:46:57 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Jules Gilbert References: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:46:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Jules Gilbert's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:38:00 -0400") Message-ID: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:46:58 -0000 >>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: Jules> Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a Jules> browser. And that's why I challenged you as to "why". We needed Java to run in the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? Java had its day. Time to move on. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 13:52:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7148B1065675 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0C18FC24 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so1598766qwg.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:52:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=YsJkGlVo6V7f5J1rrqMtox3OrBKF4aFsBpzD+S2KhPI=; b=t0NUT/3tVwN4jNLoE4QLAXHT3hz7CXh49NqbjVAyiCGxHkfk0wnez8Mn6iQkJKPfAd MWCGz0b/Aip+dAEWqdHn3vXwjPnmywtQGhHpdmRJesriwZgGEWxDuR3FPR+fp25FGGhm 3elNX4sjYhQwSrfSixb6RVhp9L4FPelSAnPQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=XRZZpAcwwRvcyo42oYDJpdkRtlO05UUng9yxN+N2WOPZ3ii7I5+tT/XrtoNKBjbkak OMc2oXTLJ8chRlSfsTIF2Jkmogq2KQD04p9TXTqI+jlt9xQmvv8UW1uvTKvNb6ULgLgX iLCzHz+0RC8mAzkzjPToV1Md2hPNyUrMXM/+Y= Received: by 10.224.46.5 with SMTP id h5mr344658qaf.316.1284126731196; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:52:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.213.203 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:51:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871506CD-C75A-4672-950C-BBEFC44F3740@roros.net> References: <871506CD-C75A-4672-950C-BBEFC44F3740@roros.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:51:41 +0200 Message-ID: To: cbakken@roros.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IBM server SAS controller support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:52:12 -0000 two solutions: - compiling the kernel with the driver (device pci and device mfi in the configuration file) - mfi_load=3D"YES" in your loader.conf Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 All=E9e de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE "Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ..." Xorg.conf(5) On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Christian Th=F8rn Bakken wrote: > I understand that you, Ivan, managed to install FreeBSD on an IBM Series = x > 3650 M3 server with the LSI M1015 SAS/SATA RAID controller. > > > Ivan, did you tweak something to install, or did it work "out of the box" > for you? > Which FreeBSD version did you install? > > My main objective is to install the appliance distro SpanTitan 5.04 from > www.spamtitan.com. It's based on FreeBSD 7.3 and the manufacturer > confirms that the mfi(4) driver is compiled into the kernel. > > I've also tried with another (vanilla) version of FreeBSD (8.1), but with > no luck. It just says there's no disk drives found. > > Regards > Christian T. Bakken_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:20:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6EC106566B; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msommer@somware.com) Received: from somware.com (mail.somware.com [74.95.16.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4CA8FC12; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.3.112] (glacier.argotsoft.com [192.168.3.112]) by somware.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8ADvPWi028534; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from msommer@somware.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.26.0.100708 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600 From: Mark Sommer To: , , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: this is probably a little touchy to ask... Thread-Index: ActQ8BjhvRvLvvGWFUCPCW8l119GWw== In-Reply-To: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Disposition-Notification-To-off: "Mark Sommer" Return-Receipt-To-off: "Mark Sommer" Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.3.103 Cc: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:34 -0000 On 9/10/10 7:46 AM, "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote: >>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language > Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I > Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > Jules> browser. > > And that's why I challenged you as to "why". We needed Java to run in > the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with > HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? > > Java had its day. Time to move on. That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. ~Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:29:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CDF106564A; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C0C8FC0C; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 514601A9D; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Mark Sommer References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:29:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Mark Sommer's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600") Message-ID: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 -0000 >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Sommer writes: Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until then, we're stuck with Flash. We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good JavaScript. I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:16:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66651065673 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5808FC1B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-101-5.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.101.5] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou5D3-0007b1-6k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:08:14 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:16:51 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:16:51 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:16:56 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Friday, 10 September 2010: > >>>>> "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes: >=20 > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. >=20 > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) >=20 > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. >=20 > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > then, we're stuck with Flash. >=20 > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > JavaScript. >=20 > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. >=20 Perhaps someone could provide specific use cases for which Java is the only good solution? I don't have Flash installed on my browser, and what I lack from that is evident. I have yet to miss Java in any way. What problems would it solve for people that can't be solved using a different approach? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMikviAAoJEIpckszW26+RFA4H/RwhWNK05fFchMUBhqfH6Ya+ M4BpXg0N9lgTZ0+bCb+BQC8cZw7s9D2vKmgcguaH2UDWVh5CzfJX/gc0ZNWV2T8S 3LD+0AYOduaskyBZHzkXfTkl01U26ILykeJEE5nEa92HKVb8AiNk61pV+ip3EVKP ciFjEu1/1pHiLPwchqX/PHC0RQ+F/Pb/j8hBRctPO9Ag7PqZHzD01e1db5JD0u2A zs/G2WPbjg/ubhRB44KMu1PYFJw5IihtMGDMjqBTpBjP7k6rGFwkY/SRO+nAgFme dDXIOoK9GHSXUd+AmE7yPMBCLegcbNeTmowxvMbmQfWlDgQwu+9gHXzV42e/wLI= =VqNg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:20:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5484C1065694; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mail.anduin.net (mail.anduin.net [213.225.74.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9A48FC0A; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 140-17-9.connect.netcom.no ([89.9.17.140] helo=[10.253.159.55]) by mail.anduin.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4sz-000Lkf-Cn; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:47:31 +0200 References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: =?utf-8?Q?Eirik_=C3=98verby?= Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:47:50 +0200 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Cc: Mark Sommer , "freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-java@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:20:09 -0000 On 10. sep. 2010, at 16:29, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote= : >>>>>> "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes: >=20 > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. >=20 > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) >=20 > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. >=20 > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > then, we're stuck with Flash. >=20 > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > JavaScript. >=20 > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. You are forgetting - or conveniently ignoring - that many still NEED Java su= pport in their browsers - and not of their own choice. Banks, insurances, di= gital signature services etc. Still frequently use Java as carrier for their= services. Often this cannot be changed easily as such organizations have lo= ng turn-around times and make investments in the long term.=20 Java is still very much alive, and until html5 can validate and run signed c= ode it'll stay that way even on the client. And that is just one of the reas= ons/scenarios.=20 I'm not using FreeBSD on the desktop for just this kind o reasons. I'm sure i= t would be a great choice in an ideal world but we are unfortunately living i= n a real one. So either one takes the time to implement what people _need_ i= n addition to what you would prefer them to need, or the desktop can as well= be ditched and focus moved to improving FreeBSD for servers, where it alrea= dy excels.=20 /Eirik >=20 > --=20 > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 009= 5 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussio= n > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:31:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D5E1065673 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431E18FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-fx0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 4so2104007fxm.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jSiSpRwxDRSJ9wcHxpKETUvRuL4sKfE2UP+mr9k0s/s=; b=rRCIhFM3UQCoLvpZCl5yC8JotB5+UJFchmJA5yNDXKN5PzEI+L/Vj9cDZtRtCk1WeJ H7bDVgFafOo/vbGB7wxB879tPf58HZ60/KoTLWa3EWBesb4n4EpDY/z5AiRdDUUo9q8F 1gx4zknfkPpMI4jnW10dkF9eQdTV2oUHWp7Y8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IisX3Mx7KYVB9QlxuDMyL46t5wfcL845YfPDoDhFG2QPVWaEXZxrBMrq+xZ4h/NznG NbiOfwWAGkA+yOUEmfHBcU7HHSdGtfZ1g6ptGpcZyeyimGH3ZBGH/9MjThiLfScb8ela ay1cYi648p36Oa7yvjHkOzK4itSTeXac1RjpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.67 with SMTP id y3mr566546faq.45.1284132705956; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100910064813.387f4ef0@scorpio> References: <20100910064813.387f4ef0@scorpio> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:31:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:31:46 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Jerry wrote: > Excepting donations != producing results. I will be happy to donate > $100 US dollars to their fund once they distribute a fully up-to-date > version of JAVA, not some reworked, deprecated version, that is fully > compatible with Firefox on FreeBSD. I believe the current version of > Java is Version 6 Update 21. It simply goes counter to my basic > business model to contribute any monetary assistance to any open ended > project. > Did you contribute back when it was up to date? Or do you contribute now based on all the other features you find useful in FreeBSD? So you won't write code, you won't donate money, but constantly complain about it. I guess I fail to see the logic in your basic business model. I've donated fairly regularly, and things I've requested like HA and XEN support are at least partially here now. If you're in the US your donations are tax deductible, at least monetary donations are, so there is even less argument against donations. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 16:10:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0FD106566C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (lerwick.hopto.org [204.51.112.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330E88FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13945 invoked by uid 98); 10 Sep 2010 15:45:34 +0000 Received: from 81.187.141.93 by mailserver (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.96.1/11509. spamassassin: 3.3.1. Clear:RC:1(81.187.141.93):. Processed in 0.017425 secs); 10 Sep 2010 15:45:34 -0000 Received: from 93.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (81.187.141.93) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 10 Sep 2010 15:45:34 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Chip Camden In-Reply-To: <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:43:32 +0100 Message-ID: <1284133412.5254.5.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:10:17 -0000 On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 08:16 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Friday, 10 September 2010: > > >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Sommer writes: > > > > Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. > > Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across > > Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. > > Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. > > > > Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) > > > > There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern > > cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. > > > > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > > then, we're stuck with Flash. > > > > We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good > > JavaScript. > > > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > > > Perhaps someone could provide specific use cases for which Java is the > only good solution? > > I don't have Flash installed on my browser, and what I lack from that is > evident. I have yet to miss Java in any way. What problems would it > solve for people that can't be solved using a different approach? > One that springs to mind for me is alom/ilo/drac console redirection... It requires java unfortunately. I suspect there are a lot of legacy applications that use javaws... It will take time for them to catch up once html5 is proper mainstream if at all. Cheers Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 15:52:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C3A1065672; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CC28FC13; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so2768282bwz.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:52:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PYRcB9zHTSFLKkedWdf+hyDHBu8q57oRzKN6qcEIU3c=; b=fnPFyzmUmxseMbqVfAqA3w9I1TTrutxhsm7pxEBMFLIAwtkljoTwKRLlFcovH1QsMO omKTdBv6l45wUqXzYb5ETkRq+Y7QTSdqZgd81SCDPacE9pjjEFuT8FGS6O8O1N4patcN H1fL4bafq+Jb8EtjZqPVfVR9mO125vcpATDnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VTxpl02uqSE1MTxMWYCkYAOYIMnnhFiaBKVic0rpRQsoUK0sXNvrAkJGJrFROtlzmJ CAvvniCzdqR4Vopcy82miObWW4zZhGR3L/5QDs52BFmNG8bhwxAU4QZm/6xL+oodWGkZ TAG1qKNQocCSxsRhTHPV6Fm0BusFo1KvolYkk= Received: by 10.204.59.9 with SMTP id j9mr642775bkh.150.1284132523575; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecs ([213.8.162.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d27sm2094036bku.22.2010.09.10.08.28.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c8a4eaa.5b8bcc0a.7880.62d3@mx.google.com> From: four.harrisons@googlemail.com To: ltning@anduin.net, merlyn@stonehenge.com Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:24:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:14:24 +0000 Cc: msommer@somware.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:52:09 -0000 -----------------------------=0D=0AFrom:=09"Eirik =C3=98verby" =0D=0ASubject:=09Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...=0D= =0ADate:=09=0910th September 2010 16:20=0D=0A=0D=0AOn 10. sep. 2010, at 1= 6:29, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:=0D=0A=0D=0A>>>>>>= "Mark" =3D=3D Mark Sommer writes:=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A>= Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5.=0D= =0A> Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across=0D= =0A> Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly.= =0D=0A> Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser.=0D= =0A>=20=0D=0A> Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (F= lash too.)=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A> There are darn few things either of these do = that a good modern=0D=0A> cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do= instead.=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A> Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes a= s well. And yes, until=0D=0A> then, we're stuck with Flash.=0D=0A>=20=0D= =0A> We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good=0D=0A= > JavaScript.=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to mov= e on.=0D=0A=0D=0AYou are forgetting - or conveniently ignoring - that man= y still NEED Java support in their browsers - and not of their own choice= =2E Banks, insurances, digital signature services etc. Still frequently u= se Java as carrier for their services. Often this cannot be changed easil= y as such organizations have long turn-around times and make investments = in the long term.=20=0D=0A=0D=0AJava is still very much alive, and until = html5 can validate and run signed code it'll stay that way even on the cl= ient. And that is just one of the reasons/scenarios.=20=0D=0A=0D=0AI'm no= t using FreeBSD on the desktop for just this kind o reasons. I'm sure it = would be a great choice in an ideal world but we are unfortunately living= in a real one. So either one takes the time to implement what people _ne= ed_ in addition to what you would prefer them to need, or the desktop can= as well be ditched and focus moved to improving FreeBSD for servers, whe= re it already excels.=20=0D=0A=0D=0A/Eirik=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AI've been run= ning FreeBSD as my sole desktop since 5.2.1. I bank and shop online. I do= not have either Java or Flash installed. I have yet to find any function= ality missing because of the lack of Java. Some sites make accessing them= difficult without Flash, but I consider that their problem and move on.=0D= =0A=0D=0AFreeBSD isn't just good for servers.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0APeter Harr= ison=0D=0Awww.4harrisons.blogspot.com=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A>=20=0D= =0A> --=20=0D=0A> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, In= c. - +1 503 777 0095=0D=0A> =0D=0A> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writi= ng, Comedy, etc. etc.=0D=0A> See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for S= malltalk and Seaside discussion=0D=0A> __________________________________= _____________=0D=0A> freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list=0D=0A> http://= lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java=0D=0A> To unsubscribe, se= nd any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0D=0A>=20=0D=0A____= ___________________________________________=0D=0Afreebsd-questions@freebs= d.org mailing list=0D=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd= -questions=0D=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsub= scribe@freebsd.org"=0D=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 16:40:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEE4106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1869ea9902=cbakken@roros.net) Received: from firmanett.no (mail.firmanett.no [79.161.108.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDDC8FC17 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.22] by mail.firmanett.no (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (MDaemon PRO v11.0.3) with ESMTP id md50020793581.msg for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:38:39 +0200 X-Spam-Processed: mail.firmanett.no, Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:38:39 +0200 (not processed: spam filter heuristic analysis disabled) X-Authenticated-Sender: cbakken@roros.net X-MDRemoteIP: 195.204.18.80 X-Return-Path: prvs=1869ea9902=cbakken@roros.net X-Envelope-From: cbakken@roros.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <871506CD-C75A-4672-950C-BBEFC44F3740@roros.net> From: =?utf-8?Q?Christian_Th=C3=B8rn_Bakken?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1B268A40-90D4-467F-95B0-D3380BE35C85@roros.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:39:25 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Subject: Re: IBM server SAS controller support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cbakken@roros.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:40:31 -0000 Sorry about the blank post... As I wrote in my former post, SpamTitan claims that the driver is already co= mpiled into the kernel. Even if that is correct, it wouldn't hurt to try the loader.conf approach, w= ould it? Can I just edit the loader.conf file in a loop mounted .iso, and t= hen just burn the .iso to a bootable CD? Regards Christian T Bakken Den 10. sep. 2010 kl. 15:51 skrev Samuel Mart=C3=ADn Moro : > two solutions: > - compiling the kernel with the driver (device pci and device mfi in the > configuration file) > - mfi_load=3D"YES" in your loader.conf >=20 >=20 > Samuel Mart=C3=ADn Moro > {EPITECH.} tek4 > CamTrace S.A.S > (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 > 1 All=C3=A9e de la Venelle > 92150 Suresnes > FRANCE >=20 > "Nobody wants to say how this works. > Maybe nobody knows ..." > Xorg.conf(5) >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Christian Th=C3=B8rn Bakken > wrote: >=20 >> I understand that you, Ivan, managed to install FreeBSD on an IBM Series x= >> 3650 M3 server with the LSI M1015 SAS/SATA RAID controller. >>=20 >>=20 >> Ivan, did you tweak something to install, or did it work "out of the box"= >> for you? >> Which FreeBSD version did you install? >>=20 >> My main objective is to install the appliance distro SpanTitan 5.04 from >> www.spamtitan.com. It's based on FreeBSD 7.3 and the manufacturer >> confirms that the mfi(4) driver is compiled into the kernel. >>=20 >> I've also tried with another (vanilla) version of FreeBSD (8.1), but with= >> no luck. It just says there's no disk drives found. >>=20 >> Regards >> Christian T. Bakken_______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 16:46:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE001065679 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1869ea9902=cbakken@roros.net) Received: from firmanett.no (mail.firmanett.no [79.161.108.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB978FC16 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.22] by mail.firmanett.no (Cipher TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (MDaemon PRO v11.0.3) with ESMTP id md50020793491.msg for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:28:46 +0200 X-Spam-Processed: mail.firmanett.no, Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:28:46 +0200 (not processed: spam filter heuristic analysis disabled) X-Authenticated-Sender: cbakken@roros.net X-MDRemoteIP: 195.204.18.80 X-Return-Path: prvs=1869ea9902=cbakken@roros.net X-Envelope-From: cbakken@roros.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <871506CD-C75A-4672-950C-BBEFC44F3740@roros.net> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <3A1A5CA0-D55E-421A-9895-4F7D4F2E0791@roros.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: =?utf-8?Q?Christian_Th=C3=B8rn_Bakken?= Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:29:34 +0200 To: "faust64@gmail.com" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: IBM server SAS controller support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cbakken@roros.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:46:46 -0000 Mvh Christian Th=C3=B8rn Bakken Infonett R=C3=B8ros as Mob. 40 40 83 38 Tel. 72 41 48 17 www.rev.no | www.roros.net Den 10. sep. 2010 kl. 15:51 skrev Samuel Mart=C3=ADn Moro : > two solutions: > - compiling the kernel with the driver (device pci and device mfi in the > configuration file) > - mfi_load=3D"YES" in your loader.conf >=20 >=20 > Samuel Mart=C3=ADn Moro > {EPITECH.} tek4 > CamTrace S.A.S > (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 > 1 All=C3=A9e de la Venelle > 92150 Suresnes > FRANCE >=20 > "Nobody wants to say how this works. > Maybe nobody knows ..." > Xorg.conf(5) >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Christian Th=C3=B8rn Bakken > wrote: >=20 >> I understand that you, Ivan, managed to install FreeBSD on an IBM Series x= >> 3650 M3 server with the LSI M1015 SAS/SATA RAID controller. >>=20 >>=20 >> Ivan, did you tweak something to install, or did it work "out of the box"= >> for you? >> Which FreeBSD version did you install? >>=20 >> My main objective is to install the appliance distro SpanTitan 5.04 from >> www.spamtitan.com. It's based on FreeBSD 7.3 and the manufacturer >> confirms that the mfi(4) driver is compiled into the kernel. >>=20 >> I've also tried with another (vanilla) version of FreeBSD (8.1), but with= >> no luck. It just says there's no disk drives found. >>=20 >> Regards >> Christian T. Bakken_______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 16:59:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95272106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joannem@juniper.net) Received: from exprod7og115.obsmtp.com (exprod7og115.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582858FC19 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob115.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTIpkAkWb3GNC2e2lY7GcJg6EC2kDG0Ag@postini.com; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:59:47 PDT Received: from EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::18fe:d666:b43e:f97e]) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::fc92:eb1:759:2c72%11]) with mapi; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:42:42 -0700 From: Joanne McClintock To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:42:00 -0700 Thread-Topic: question on access to res utility Thread-Index: ActRBxcktQuYssyaTmO8jmyY5MsEag== Message-ID: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:59:47 -0000 I'm helping a new writer use tech pubs lab routers. In trying to use the re= s utility, he gets the following: -bash-2.05b$ res show tp5 -bash: res: command not found In giving the uname -a command he gets: -bash-2.05b$ uname -a FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon= Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile= /bigpink i386 We are wondering if perhaps this is an access problem. Any ideas? Need any = other information? Thanks. Joanne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 17:21:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532C11065670 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91FE8FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:21:31 -0400 References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> Message-Id: <2C0A4329-41B2-4116-850B-97898006447E@olivent.com> From: mikel king To: Joanne McClintock In-Reply-To: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:21:18 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:21:36 -0000 Joanne, I did a quick which and search of the ports that yielded nothing concrete regarding this command. I believe that this a proprietary Juniper utility. I found similar reference to this at this url: http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?23,124019,124019 As much as I hate passing the buck, I'd have to punt this back to someone familiar with the changes to FreeBSD made in JunOS. Regards, Mikel King Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Joanne McClintock wrote: > I'm helping a new writer use tech pubs lab routers. In trying to use > the res utility, he gets the following: > > -bash-2.05b$ res show tp5 > -bash: res: command not found > > In giving the uname -a command he gets: > > -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 > #0: Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/ > src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 > > We are wondering if perhaps this is an access problem. Any ideas? > Need any other information? Thanks. > > Joanne > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 17:23:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC2D1065670 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849C18FC0C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so1135822gwb.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:23:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=p+9+zNzGZRAB04OL+g6w+oyWrDQbi8ZbyDP6pFJ2Dkw=; b=mv9P/xXZj5ASyVC7pRHWfYUArVswV2tJySbI+cCl3reDntUcWOUvXm4S6ifiKXrmQG FV6xOrHfxZGDf2+fCs32D6B8OnQVTALLaTyd2NmRmX3LgIG9qcJPO7PMFZgbsiVAMU3+ x4vIeYFYGc1gG0spsrF81e7na3nLNacxcdqlU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=YJ32ar1PT4mhdxsbZkj2EUt8QMrSSy2bZVbC2uBJhn2EgOItLDXTfKbnjd0K/hEyOk w8d25kuwN/kDBHmQcC+NKbrPbOTz4l2I2CJTNcohf18Dc7q74CzGEtViy1nagKTOO6aM XA1CrndQPcrOx5AE9HusonYVjHMq6Lhw0HDGM= Received: by 10.90.72.3 with SMTP id u3mr937155aga.171.1284139431398; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:23:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.182.146 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:23:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:23:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xb7BqQNwKg4kD2Urreb4niObPng Message-ID: To: Joanne McClintock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:23:52 -0000 As an !!! employee !!! of Juniper I would expect that you would know that the "res" command is part of the JunOS shell and NOT part of the underlying FreeBSD OS. Most especially since you're "helping" what sounds like a member of the press, therefore you SHOULD have / SOME / idea of what you are doing. What respect I had for Juniper's products has been ruined of last as this is NOT the first time that a Juniper employee has posted such completely idiotic emails to this list. Please do tell what are the employment requirements? Know how to press the "ON" button on a kettle? "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Joanne McClintock wrote: > I'm helping a new writer use tech pubs lab routers. In trying to use the > res utility, he gets the following: > > -bash-2.05b$ res show tp5 > -bash: res: command not found > > In giving the uname -a command he gets: > > -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink > i386 > > We are wondering if perhaps this is an access problem. Any ideas? Need any > other information? Thanks. > > Joanne > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 18:28:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A07B1065674 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DCE8FC0C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so1526600gyg.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Eg+M0reRVZl77CFm2/+gSvipy1hikDSlm6VoWk/A1D0=; b=Cza+B0pGnWMt/aXndilPfXwJfR8VIMPcTLB3A5FS8MRnfXUxjElgKnnWfX744xHrpc FP7213BjadqW6xo2INqmG5ytzJHdmYYnhU1phWNjZIWR3wV5AmHiGRktk5VYGwg2/c9R w9BiBfzviCe55ZCDhZoy7HYhbnDviVU0ZnV0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SZp4vLCrvimgHaR4YZ1Lg5UoJi1IeHe8iKtve7sovbmjfZWV84pKJhGZc+FH+0iZU7 laH1PNmYvdTaCxsIZEB5XF8NCA5PMOW1t0/0w9GoGnea+HPYjVyKXZnS+gTdlnKJJmJM vqlCACMsPEIheTWA4jHVefUBkqrF0onOMKHBE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.101.15 with SMTP id y15mr891352agb.143.1284143300758; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.197.76 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86pqwmlhdu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:28:41 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 06:46, Randal L. Schwartz w= rote: >>>>>> "Jules" =3D=3D Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Look, I'm just a user. =C2=A0I'm not a Java developer, not a langu= age > Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. =C2=A0But folks, we got prob= lems! =C2=A0I > Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > Jules> browser. > > And that's why I challenged you as to "why". =C2=A0We needed Java to run = in > the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. =C2=A0But wi= th > HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? > > Java had its day. =C2=A0Time to move on. Why Java? I've worked with several SSL VPNs (SonicWall, Juniper, Aventail) for $WORK, and they all require a java-enabled browser - so unless you're suggesting that DHTML and HTML5 can replace that, I need a java-enabled browser. Aside from that, there are some really nice apps written in Java - including Data Crow, which is a pretty decent cataloging utility for my books and movies and such, and I haven't seen anything nearly as good as that written in a cross-platform language, so that I can move it between my FreeBSD machine and my family's Windows machines. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 18:59:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3E9106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186A78FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so1264219pxi.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=nWCZLOhXYfwBe8Rpo0TJ8dozU8HPHE+sjB573XrVNI4=; b=M/DYyC7EGNrs4N3n2DCxGwc38zqLoDv22Q8C1xaOPqGtC9rv8Nca4yFk6KTZK6Qo0r eISSdmYI5Ee5soHovxuru/I/3Mobe5vDUS21WkDlmqhwAENmq+NkvaEDIxQ8H3Jpayhb 6OocK+Nfz9X4Xb9QVU2ToIROqTGfoQGsb4ihM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=gAqYgR+hCW8/w0Nl/DYeeisVGuHiH6SqsuyOMu4Sd7cuoucFuoOECa+aHdR/NqSxIU UltxY2kc9uRdvXK6ETArA4qg7bfu4jcjro6j3niUqj7ITyrZYRHIoJ1nSAEsxTYMacHl QFT2gSAyPgU0pSkLT+SWtwn+NUMTsOQ+HXlVs= Received: by 10.114.92.20 with SMTP id p20mr1359260wab.65.1284145146381; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.182.146 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:58:46 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0YlBa0oiPIDnC4cHxjU5BH7U-y8 Message-ID: To: Alessandro Dellavedova Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Joanne McClintock Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:59:07 -0000 It's not the first time that almost word for word the same question has been asked by someone from that domain..... "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Alessandro Dellavedova < alessandro.dellavedova@ifom-ieo-campus.it> wrote: > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Ross Cameron wrote: > > > As an !!! employee !!! of Juniper I would expect that you would know that > > the "res" command is part of the JunOS shell and NOT part of the > underlying > > FreeBSD OS. > > > > Most especially since you're "helping" what sounds like a member of the > > press, therefore you SHOULD have / SOME / idea of what you are doing. > > > > What respect I had for Juniper's products has been ruined of last as this > is > > NOT the first time that a Juniper employee has posted such completely > > idiotic emails to this list. > > Please do tell what are the employment requirements? Know how to press > > the "ON" button on a kettle? > > Please don't be so rude, maybe she's a Press Office employee, looking for a > bit of help here. > Working at Juniper does not mean being a JunOS developer or a tech guru. > > It's just one e-mail on hundreds that you get per day, and it does not > hurt. > > Just my opinion, peace > > Alessandro > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Joanne McClintock >wrote: > > > >> I'm helping a new writer use tech pubs lab routers. In trying to use the > >> res utility, he gets the following: > >> > >> -bash-2.05b$ res show tp5 > >> -bash: res: command not found > >> > >> In giving the uname -a command he gets: > >> > >> -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > >> FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > >> Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 root@bigpink.juniper.net: > /usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink > >> i386 > >> > >> We are wondering if perhaps this is an access problem. Any ideas? Need > any > >> other information? Thanks. > >> > >> Joanne > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 19:16:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEFE106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alessandro.dellavedova@ifom-ieo-campus.it) Received: from lupin.ifom-ieo-campus.it (lupin.ifom-ieo-campus.it [85.239.175.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081B8FC0C for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17230 invoked by uid 811); 10 Sep 2010 18:49:31 -0000 Received: from 93-35-119-113.ip54.fastwebnet.it by lupin.ifom-ieo-campus.it (envelope-from , uid 803) with qmail-scanner-2.06 (clamdscan: 0.96/10941. spamassassin: 3.3.0. Clear:RC:1(93.35.119.113):. Processed in 0.017741 secs); 10 Sep 2010 18:49:31 -0000 Received: from 93-35-119-113.ip54.fastwebnet.it (HELO 1-64-130-049.static.netvigator.com) (adellave@[93.35.119.113]) (envelope-sender ) by lupin.ifom-ieo-campus.it (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 10 Sep 2010 18:49:31 -0000 References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Alessandro Dellavedova Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:49:30 +0200 To: Ross Cameron X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Joanne McClintock Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:16:29 -0000 On Sep 10, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Ross Cameron wrote: > As an !!! employee !!! of Juniper I would expect that you would know = that > the "res" command is part of the JunOS shell and NOT part of the = underlying > FreeBSD OS. >=20 > Most especially since you're "helping" what sounds like a member of = the > press, therefore you SHOULD have / SOME / idea of what you are doing. >=20 > What respect I had for Juniper's products has been ruined of last as = this is > NOT the first time that a Juniper employee has posted such completely > idiotic emails to this list. > Please do tell what are the employment requirements? Know how to = press > the "ON" button on a kettle? Please don't be so rude, maybe she's a Press Office employee, looking = for a bit of help here. Working at Juniper does not mean being a JunOS developer or a tech guru. It's just one e-mail on hundreds that you get per day, and it does not = hurt. Just my opinion, peace Alessandro >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Joanne McClintock = wrote: >=20 >> I'm helping a new writer use tech pubs lab routers. In trying to use = the >> res utility, he gets the following: >>=20 >> -bash-2.05b$ res show tp5 >> -bash: res: command not found >>=20 >> In giving the uname -a command he gets: >>=20 >> -bash-2.05b$ uname -a >> FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 = #0: >> Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 = root@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink >> i386 >>=20 >> We are wondering if perhaps this is an access problem. Any ideas? = Need any >> other information? Thanks. >>=20 >> Joanne >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 19:22:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE54106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A879A8FC0A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so2335871fxm.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:22:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=iSFPXP6WZorTJmO0XmskL7Fza2v+NvDSk5D0YBUpfyw=; b=Mb6YCYzcEqyYunvR2VYAAnwTLi8YWqKsA1xE/iPevfSBw39/hCrlavZWqd4O5zDJRl HZgemJPbd+dX3nbZbjklhLQCAQZQblmxKN+cQVAcCEaY1ERZK0l6RYHpEKMG7ktuFGYI K3N5NHrVuUy05MwhTT532E/nZ//0plqdNcB40= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=gzVNU9IxYRtXtWqEaTGFuVSwbRJzneTwbCE9C7iRBYDvp2DUO0qlWgiK488yzKKwxY As4+pjGcO/gFfX9SOVAGCOchWPv+yZUh7vvAsEb0OwJOfjkPO6K40oRrsEe7S4GBC6MW YsEMQc706PcpP8w3MldAwM2Z7XLoWtfhCsCTw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.124.4 with SMTP id s4mr807563far.31.1284146554787; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:22:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ross Cameron Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Alessandro Dellavedova , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Joanne McClintock Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:22:36 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Ross Cameron wrote: > It's not the first time that almost word for word the same question has > been > asked by someone from that domain..... > True but juniper has given a great of IP to BSD. Gracefully handling some runoff seems appropriate. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 19:31:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD041065675 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C098FC15 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o8AJSxKF090371; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:28:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o8AJSxxm090370; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:28:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:28:59 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ross Cameron Message-ID: <20100910192859.GB90329@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Alessandro Dellavedova , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Joanne McClintock Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:31:59 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:58:46PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > It's not the first time that almost word for word the same question has been > asked by someone from that domain..... > And not the first time some idiot rude reply caused much more harm than good. ////jerry > > "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in > overalls and looks like work." > Thomas Alva Edison > Inventor of 1093 patents, including: > The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. > > > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Alessandro Dellavedova < > alessandro.dellavedova@ifom-ieo-campus.it> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Ross Cameron wrote: > > > > > As an !!! employee !!! of Juniper I would expect that you would know that > > > the "res" command is part of the JunOS shell and NOT part of the > > underlying > > > FreeBSD OS. > > > > > > Most especially since you're "helping" what sounds like a member of the > > > press, therefore you SHOULD have / SOME / idea of what you are doing. > > > > > > What respect I had for Juniper's products has been ruined of last as this > > is > > > NOT the first time that a Juniper employee has posted such completely > > > idiotic emails to this list. > > > Please do tell what are the employment requirements? Know how to press > > > the "ON" button on a kettle? > > > > Please don't be so rude, maybe she's a Press Office employee, looking for a > > bit of help here. > > Working at Juniper does not mean being a JunOS developer or a tech guru. > > > > It's just one e-mail on hundreds that you get per day, and it does not > > hurt. > > > > Just my opinion, peace > > > > Alessandro > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Joanne McClintock > >wrote: > > > > > >> I'm helping a new writer use tech pubs lab routers. In trying to use the > > >> res utility, he gets the following: > > >> > > >> -bash-2.05b$ res show tp5 > > >> -bash: res: command not found > > >> > > >> In giving the uname -a command he gets: > > >> > > >> -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > > >> FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: > > >> Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 root@bigpink.juniper.net: > > /usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink > > >> i386 > > >> > > >> We are wondering if perhaps this is an access problem. Any ideas? Need > > any > > >> other information? Thanks. > > >> > > >> Joanne > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 19:45:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAB81065672 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34BB8FC19 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:44:55 -0400 References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> Message-Id: <1DAF4911-4B84-414A-9B5B-08D73DF4F734@olivent.com> From: mikel king To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:44:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: Alessandro Dellavedova , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Joanne McClintock Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:45:06 -0000 I'm glad that I am not the only one who felt that was a bit extreme. This is a BSD, not Linux, list after all. Regards, Mikel King Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Ross Cameron > wrote: > >> It's not the first time that almost word for word the same question >> has >> been >> asked by someone from that domain..... >> > > True but juniper has given a great of IP to BSD. Gracefully > handling some > runoff seems appropriate. > > -- > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 19:59:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B95B106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D728FC14 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so1571201gyg.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:59:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=OeD+xi8EvjITtAtCVpCu5/W5FfWcfdiI0vD6VrbqK08=; b=e7lu/XP7x+X+PKp0gN4jLLYfXalMsGCAeCyXGtSp4EUV+OkVF5GrycZ0tiJs64luA/ APqXZ4armrR97RgKn91nJgXcsrvUhw5Z9WaOzhjR9FmdgkBzHFDf4UB06vrpJ08+hzZS ntjj1lVLUDvlbJs4JpRaE9DwTtOjydZ5OYUak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=FJfxcSJG9/Hffo8O5mrow9eqkKiLIsoco3WaPB+jcFxkUhVHpZOy5jypRLDFUw/sAc K915SASyXxZjFC9Wg377xyA2SAbm/lgvUmMYy4EW99nvglCdeH9r1AOvZNrO3KXGOhi7 LUzhZ5WBe3rDjzPlR/4S8l2MLEppcHftjwrJg= Received: by 10.150.158.3 with SMTP id g3mr1446658ybe.5.1284148770376; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:59:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.182.146 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:59:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1DAF4911-4B84-414A-9B5B-08D73DF4F734@olivent.com> References: <3E6CB99C2F38864E95D6AA1B707C0C70573C2BE99C@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> <1DAF4911-4B84-414A-9B5B-08D73DF4F734@olivent.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:59:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CHHWLGq3qKpvHPSQGqDHdpbv08M Message-ID: To: mikel king Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Alessandro Dellavedova , Adam Vande More , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Joanne McClintock Subject: Re: question on access to res utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:59:31 -0000 2seconds spent Googling the phrase pulls up my much more polite answer to exactly the same question from a month ago. Absolutely no effort was made, that much is OBVIOUS. In my defense when I realised the the OP thought that this was a Juniper support list I did offer to try help. "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:44 PM, mikel king wrote: > I'm glad that I am not the only one who felt that was a bit extreme. > > This is a BSD, not Linux, list after all. > > > Regards, > Mikel King > Senior Editor, BSD News Network > Columnist, BSD Magazine > 6 Alpine Court, > Medford, NY 11763 > o: 631.627.3055 > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking > http://twitter.com/mikelking > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Ross Cameron >> wrote: >> >> It's not the first time that almost word for word the same question has >>> been >>> asked by someone from that domain..... >>> >>> >> True but juniper has given a great of IP to BSD. Gracefully handling some >> runoff seems appropriate. >> >> -- >> Adam Vande More >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 20:47:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7370D1065672 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=8623f0649=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D8F8FC20 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchh1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.20]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 10 Sep 2010 22:17:52 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by exchh1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:17:52 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8AKHqUo036039 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:17:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8AKHqPm036035 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:17:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:17:52 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100910201751.GA17386@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: sysutils/eiciel - can't portupgrade but dependencies to gnome2-power-tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:47:20 -0000 Hi, Upon upgrading my ports I ran into a problem: When portupgrade comes to upgrading sysutils/eiciel it stops with the following message: ===> eiciel-0.9.8 is marked as broken: does not compile. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/eiciel. # However eiciel is needed by gnome2-power-tools. # pkg_info -Rx eiciel | more Information for eiciel-0.9.6.1_6: Required by: gnome2-power-tools-2.30.2_1 # So how can I do a portupgrade for gnome2-power-tools when a port that it depends on can't be upgraded? Thanks much in advance for any hint! -ewald PS: System im question is freebsd 7.3, AMD64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 20:58:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D211065674 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C6F8FC17 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8AKwgAr025569 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:58:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201009102058.o8AKwgAr025569@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25566.1284152322.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:58:42 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: How to Best Prevent Unwanted named installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:58:58 -0000 After successfully installing bind97 from a package on to a new server, I do a cvs-sup of the system to get the latest patches in to the kernel. After discovering that bind97 had been replaced with bind9.6.1, I looked in /usr/src and there is a contrib/bind9 directory. What is the safest way to disable that build without adversly effecting the rest of the update? The reason for doing these things in this order is that I would like to get bind running as quickly as possible since it takes a couple of hours or more to get the world built when we could be doing DNS. Since I am not using that version of bind, not getting it built is no problem. I don't even care if it gets built so long as it does not end up in /usr/sbin to clobber the new bind9.7. This is not really a complaint. I just want to prevent the installation of the old bind over the new one as simply as possible. Thanks. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 21:03:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29368106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:80:80::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF968FC15 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8AL2smL076708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:02:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8AL2rfl082248; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:02:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <201009102102.o8AL2rfl082248@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:02:46 -0400 To: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <201009102058.o8AKwgAr025569@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201009102058.o8AKwgAr025569@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: Subject: Re: How to Best Prevent Unwanted named installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:03:03 -0000 At 04:58 PM 9/10/2010, Martin McCormick wrote: >contrib/bind9 directory. What is the safest way to disable that >build without adversly effecting the rest of the update? Hi, Take a look at the man page for src.conf (and make.conf for completeness). You can control parts of what gets built and installed. ---Mike > The reason for doing these things in this order is that >I would like to get bind running as quickly as possible since it >takes a couple of hours or more to get the world built when we >could be doing DNS. > > Since I am not using that version of bind, not getting >it built is no problem. I don't even care if it gets built so >long as it does not end up in /usr/sbin to clobber the new >bind9.7. > > This is not really a complaint. I just want to prevent >the installation of the old bind over the new one as simply as >possible. > > Thanks. > >Martin McCormick >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 22:52:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46FE106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702AC8FC08 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so3039511iwn.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:52:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=xhpHbqeCDvuE1ZyPF/oyAYYqV0F3IRMHBDN/wuZbBFc=; b=ARzJkvdTNO52mRZezoV8IKVE58+627SyxMDo2pDREUYf1+DuqeHWeaQbrSUGOK5ddq bc5fDxhKmC6mI35TrgOeJOXwLolTVQw4XBy/vpZEN67me9yNE11Td406Zea9AjuXhu8a 6zoQxAL5jYRlo1EVO7LI+rUXphaTPzqkUaB+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XMw8WbrV7/JbRTP3RURBfOBMCvE9WVnRdYPcjvytlkLZExfKq+i3uJrowVlKomH5gH KAlScbcMMkRbTO4NyUmsuQpeK5unxCQZvHYq6BK0C6f/eo+PtLhf2nzR4DHK6Y5VywNw JLXQ7z2So5Qxjbr/Ihpo6KNC5KPvJ5DXOnH20= Received: by 10.231.14.5 with SMTP id e5mr1615258iba.175.1284157697369; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:28:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.189.29 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: cronfy Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:27:46 +0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: fsck reports errors on clean filesystem (mounted rw) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:52:51 -0000 Hello. I ran fsck on my filesystems while system was running (partitons were mounted rw with moderate FS usage). fsck reported there were errors (INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT and others). I decided to reboot to single mode and check all filesystems. But in single mode fsck did not find any errors. 1. Can I be sure my filesystem is consistent? 2. If fsck reports nonexistent errors (and probably will try to fix them if asked), isn't it even danger to run fsck on running system? 3. How can I check (not fix) filesystems while partitions are mouted rw and are under usage? FreeBSD 7.3/kernel, 7.2/world. Thanks in advance. -- // cronfy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 23:04:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191EF106566B for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005238FC20 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:04:25 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8K008L003D1T50@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1009100159 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-09-10_10:2010-09-10, 2010-09-10, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:04:25 -0700 Message-id: <5FCC3CB1-D40F-47C2-946C-4095506D0091@mac.com> References: To: cronfy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: fsck reports errors on clean filesystem (mounted rw) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:04:26 -0000 On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:27 PM, cronfy wrote: > 1. Can I be sure my filesystem is consistent? Reasonably. > 2. If fsck reports nonexistent errors (and probably will try to fix > them if asked), isn't it even danger to run fsck on running system? Running fsck in foreground mode on a mounted filesystem is not recommended. > 3. How can I check (not fix) filesystems while partitions are mouted > rw and are under usage? fsck -B...? See "man fsck_ffs". Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 23:25:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDB11065697 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf11.insightbb.com (mxsf11.insightbb.com [74.128.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B10D8FC2E for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:25:52 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,348,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="200583546" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf11.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Sep 2010 19:25:51 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag00AKJbikxKgCiCO2dsb2JhbACUBo1BDAEBAQE1LcEPhT0E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,348,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="160512088" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Sep 2010 19:25:51 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:25:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009101925.44908.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Unable to create plasma widget per tutorial X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:25:52 -0000 There is a tutorial at: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/GettingStarted My tutorial1 widget doesn't appear in the add widgets box. Any ideas? -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 23:53:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC19D1065670 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 847D38FC25 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30566 invoked by uid 0); 10 Sep 2010 23:53:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2010 23:53:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=JOMR+hruIRyTs2qq3Wh5Kb5n8LQlc+tucwtcVjIUS47kqbhDbFla93+rcKak1pRpjn2O0PuCZBNQnqp2wF7NeaO9IRt+ZUpwtXpUSObJ7rqIjqPtH2PisQqF/KMlmFPR; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuDPG-0007a7-Lx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:53:23 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:49:56 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:49:56 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100910234956.GB63239@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:53:25 -0000 --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:16:51AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > Perhaps someone could provide specific use cases for which Java is the > only good solution? I guess the only answer to that is "running applications someone wrote in Java" -- but I know that's *not* what you meant. >=20 > I don't have Flash installed on my browser, and what I lack from that is > evident. I have yet to miss Java in any way. What problems would it > solve for people that can't be solved using a different approach? I have intentionally avoided installing Java for a long time. This has caused some issues with getting OpenOffice.org running, but the single use I've had for it in the last year (give or take) dried up a couple months or so ago, so that reason to care went away. I sure as heck have never actually *needed* Java in my browser, for any reason. Who still uses Java in the browser without some alternative for those who don't have it, these days? These days, it seems like the only places people *really* think they still need Java are smartphones and "enterprise" systems running on overpriced servers -- neither of which makes a difference for Firefox on the desktop. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyKxCQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW85QCfUTcIephJGYeLPcLKOqKli1gG 7f0AoIC9XR5Nyd2qy50IW/3lhCBapdcJ =40+c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 00:58:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851211065672 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A278FC16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so3689462qyk.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:58:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=E+hyiRR/PNC4oGHVyF3FkXuj1nPFkik4ZDtuvrEy/R8=; b=Mczcz52zsMlYaZXWXMOEOgz12SZh3QVOFfOhm9tODMR7ZZ48NiQvtCYd8SjsogmEOw vs5iXeAx73Bbe+nIYwtO4xcUuNsdvci+HBBRvvGCOpdhAW1770ArhPD4KmMVth7BM/+A VAHbFdxV78bj8wva74yge0VtMGwQM8/hvBe+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=gtkOS+8OUOojfjypvnaPgYUiW2Dmrv1VUPu0GELjw1wzVxZRehh0R1xnhj0EjPujBC CE4+rxnZm/UC2F+Xe2LAfs/vFy3cq9AbC5xfUzl17fum6Fda3HyuncC7bX2UHFQgO1xL 7KOdB+glIjMWho1o9+1g3MMPq76l6t0ON0CaY= Received: by 10.229.182.3 with SMTP id ca3mr1207391qcb.173.1284166709168; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:58:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.213.203 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:57:59 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kernel replacement in installation media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:58:30 -0000 Hi, I bought a QNAP ts-509. I'ld like to set up a gate, with a RAID ; I'm still waiting for the disks, 5*2T - Samsung, ecogreen, 5400rpm - to be delivered. I've seen managing a RAID may be quite difficult. That's my first one. I don't want to loose everything 'cause of a mistake. I've read zfs, and RAID-Z, may be helpfull, since there's no risk to loose data on read, and since zfs handle variable blob (is that the correct word?= ) size The thing is, it only have a 128M flash disk (seen as /dev/da0) GENERIC needs almost 250M. I though about using mfsBSD. But I'm not sure my drivers would be there (since at least the RAID one is quite new in FB-8). I tried to build nanoBSD in a 128M disk, without configuring that much (hoping it would be nano out-of-the-box), and it failed saying "no more space on device" Moreover, every small BSD with zfs I found was a custom FreeBSD. So I decided to make mine. First, from a USB stick, I installed FreeBSD on an other USB stick. Then, I looked at what I would have to get in the kernel (mainly: da, usb, ehci, kbd, vga, bge, ...) So I build a custom kernel, deleting some lines from the GENERIC configuration file. As my USB stick doesn't seem to handle write access that well, I had to compile the kernel on a VM, and the to send/extract the tarball on the NAS. But once installed, I still have a lot of .ko in boot/kernel. I'm not sure = I actually removed something, except symbols. Whatever, it worked I haven't that much time. Once I'll get some, I'll also try to reduce the /usr size. Then, I replaced the kernel from the installation stick with mine, updated the .mtree and checksums files, ... But, I didn't understood, what's the generic.inf file? How can I update it? In doubt, I deleted it. And maybe I shouldn't have. (or is it because my kernel is not called "GENERIC" any more, but "QNAP"?!) The thing is, the install failed, I finished it with the Fixit shell, untar my kernel, ... it's now "working" So, first question, how can I be sure I removed modules from my kernel? is there something to add to the config file? how can I have so much if_*.ko, while I deleted almost all device lines? Second one, how to generate .inf files for distribs? (I may have to do it a= t least for base too) And even if it's a dirty way to do it, is it ok to update a .img file (or the created stick)? or should I rebuild everything? (on my VM...) Regards, Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek4 CamTrace S.A.S From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 01:20:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD37106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB2A8FC08 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31864 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2010 01:20:10 -0000 Received: from g1.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.42]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Sep 2010 01:20:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:20:10 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Sommer , freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:20:11 -0000 On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > Java is not just for browsers. Regards, Jason C. Wells From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 01:23:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60BE106566B; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD23C8FC0C; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC86B1C29; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:23:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> (Jason C. Wells's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:20:10 -0700") Message-ID: <86vd6df4yx.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Mark Sommer , freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:23:35 -0000 >>>>> "Jason" == Jason C Wells writes: Jason> On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> >> I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. >> >> Jason> Java is not just for browsers. Indeed. And I still stand by my statement. Java makes everyone equally incompetent, which is why managers like it. It helps the beginner, hurts the advanced. Managers can swap programmers in and out strictly on head count, not on experience. Friends don't let friends make greenstarts with Java. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 02:37:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D5F106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8FC8FC12 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so4162141wyb.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:37:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zFuE+lRlkVa4F/IvKp6Xpr1UqKrKbSdRxkc4+dFzcos=; b=Sx2FBaROWT9OMH290IUGdeD55Ekro/Jk9BGLLUuu/DsSiqvmo6JK7GsWRQmxnOIOmZ C7buvEnxKL5KGy1CK9GA0fBu0sTbOodGj7/yBThdOsGDDjQRx8vogH81Po6wUzOnfIld IJ+BPAd+2kLREZ748nKYiikqXHuJm7pcsbiYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f/Q53G2MbUWwKQvy/ML4V8+B9zmBJLlNmes/iw1fymdjValFk1JGpvsKgAmYRUklTy E0h6vKAy0Me4T57b1VMMemza9xbg7bZ7Uz/enA6/UwiPeQgA6xthmV48AQZ58BE9zngZ hBiUh72ejKtHl3U2JuxcHP3FB47QkuQIMHHjs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.5.21 with SMTP id 21mr49452wek.20.1284172655244; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.169.211 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:37:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201008021920.o72JK9It005114@anthesphoria.net> References: <201007251607.o6PG6xaB078142@anthesphoria.net> <201008021920.o72JK9It005114@anthesphoria.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:37:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: =?ISO-8859-2?B?Tmlrb2xhIExl6Gnm?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:37:41 -0000 On 8/2/10, Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:54:43 +0000 > Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> Sorry to ask, but you mention that the new TeXLive 2010 will be >> released this summer. Do you know *when exactly* it will be released? > > TeX Live and FreeBSD share the same principle: a release will be out > when it is ready. No deadlines: > > http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-July/026779.html > > TL2010 pretest is currently at the stage of final testings. > >> I am also hoping that if use either the pretest one, or the official >> release, that *it*(The install procedure) also setup the paths, >> otherwise one has to do this manually :( >> [...] > > Ok, so you would like an installation procedure without need to change > PATH and other env vars and without installing binaries manually? The > following comes to mind (unfortunately, you must deinstall all traces > of teTeX from FreeBSD ports first, but I think you can easily maintain a > teTeX-free installation): > > (1) download TL2010 pretest tree: > rsync -a --delete --exclude=3D"mactex*" > rsync://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/tlpretest . > (don't forget the final dot) > > (2) run > ./install-tl -gui > (you'll need x11-toolkits/p5-Tk for GUI) > > (3) find the last option, "Create symlinks in system > directories" (which is "no" by default) and click "Change"; in the > small window, check "create symlinks in standard directories". > > (4) Click "Install TeX Live". > > That's all. You'll have FreeBSD binaries; no need to change PATH since > all TL binaries, manpages, etc. will be linked from /usr/local/bin/ etc. > > Hope this helps, > - -- @Nikola, Roland, & others that offered advice and suggestions TeXLive 2010 has officially been released: http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/Images/texlive2010.iso.xz Did not know, I hope to download it as soon as I can and try to install it, I might just set the symlinks manually since the required packages might not be there. Hope that there are no problems. BTW, do you know if this release has the editor (TeXWorks)? Why? The package found on the updates depends on TeTeX, while Kile and TeXMaker also do. This way I may avoid using them?, otherwise compile them from source(not through ports*tetex is a dep*) Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 03:01:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982C6106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717018FC1C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65DE628420; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C8AF124.5050808@cyberleo.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:01:56 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100710 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel replacement in installation media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:01:59 -0000 On 09/10/2010 07:57 PM, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: > Hi, > ... > The thing is, it only have a 128M flash disk (seen as /dev/da0) > GENERIC needs almost 250M. I have run into something similar, while building a ZFS install to run on an Intel SS4200EHW NAS device. Utilizing a series of scripts I have developed[1], I was able to compact an entire functional FreeBSD system into 4.6MB /boot and 84MB root with mkisofs and mkuzip, without permanently tying up a bunch of the machine's limited RAM with an MFS, and with acceptable performance despite the IDE channel's speed limit of 1.6MB/sec. Plus, boot and root are read-only, so the CompactFlash card won't wear out prematurely. You can make use of src.conf(5) while building world and kernel to eliminate a lot of unnecessary userland components, and MODULES_OVERRIDE and WITHOUT_MODULES to control what modules get built, as the kernel build process will build all modules regardless of what might be in your kernel config. Be prepared to perform lots of testing, though, as a missed critical dependency can appear to succeed, but leave something else broken. [1] http://git.cyberleo.net/Mosi.git -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 03:29:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2615D106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:29:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.dave.jones@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D6A8FC1B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so3649686vws.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:29:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BIgYe/J9KXJt3L33xhzDSlPkEEvejEBY1fH7woLmExE=; b=NKHR+ksOcUPCFgrtOQvHF84cFAomTol7S31RHyYzYf5NUI6ljDVL/VW2fh5kOPWCoP Xpv6b7t/SymbT5dWOz+wKYlIuiS/hI7IJVK5OejRqCj88vlwuoxkrqkPFtMpVEttaPR4 v75Ewy1CMoVJ6stfJ7sZ2yxBYIN6TTbjAjgrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DGyDK27tMGepAGErbjxMNsS15dHNK75UX6a9v85jzGFHeNOVCXCBjyswv+IuUabrrY WUsaR97RgHRn48E+kEO/n6aj7CkvDnBjXEL2lRHp2YH5Yn2EWbyXnXwgrSkvSTtWTpvr dukI7xwYWp0WdwyplNQ7bLd3HSTtPvsTE3nMM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.125.9 with SMTP id w9mr914013vcr.222.1284175770058; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.202.138 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:29:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:29:29 +0800 Message-ID: From: dave jones To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about setting bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:29:31 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: >> I want to setup a bridge in a ring topology since a break at any point >> along the ring would >> still leave all stations connected. My machine has two nics. In >> /etc/rc.conf, I have: >> >> ifconfig_em0=3D"inet 192.168.1.0 =A0netmask 255.255.255.0" >> cloned_interfaces=3D"bridge0" >> ifconfig_em0=3D"up" >> ifconfig_em1=3D"up" >> ifconfig_bridge0=3D"addm em0 addm em1 up" >> ifconfig_bridge0_alias0=3D"192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" >> >> I tried to boot my clients using tftpd, but it seems doesn't work if I >> unpluged >> em0. If I run "ifconfig em1 inet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0" then >> my clients can boot via tftpd. But it's not a bridge, right? >> I mean should I configure the same ip for em0, em1, and bridge0? > > 192.168.1.0/24 is not a valid address.=A0 Your addressable hosts are > 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254. Oops, typo. Should be 192.168.1.1 > > I think you want to lagg: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-aggregation.html In Winodws, I setup a bridge with no problems. But in FreeBSD, it seems doesn't work :( > > -- > Adam Vande More > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 03:56:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637CF106566C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8048FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15747 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2010 03:56:38 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-120.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.120]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Sep 2010 03:56:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4C8AFDF6.5030205@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:56:38 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CyberLeo Kitsana References: <4C8AF124.5050808@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4C8AF124.5050808@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel replacement in installation media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:56:39 -0000 On 09/10/10 20:01, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 09/10/2010 07:57 PM, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: > >> Hi, >> ... >> The thing is, it only have a 128M flash disk (seen as /dev/da0) >> GENERIC needs almost 250M. >> > I have run into something similar, while building a ZFS install to run > on an Intel SS4200EHW NAS device. Utilizing a series of scripts I have > developed[1], I was able to compact an entire functional FreeBSD system > into 4.6MB /boot and 84MB root with mkisofs and mkuzip, without > permanently tying up a bunch of the machine's limited RAM with an MFS, > and with acceptable performance despite the IDE channel's speed limit of > 1.6MB/sec. Plus, boot and root are read-only, so the CompactFlash card > won't wear out prematurely. > > You can make use of src.conf(5) while building world and kernel to > eliminate a lot of unnecessary userland components, and MODULES_OVERRIDE > and WITHOUT_MODULES to control what modules get built, as the kernel > build process will build all modules regardless of what might be in your > kernel config. Be prepared to perform lots of testing, though, as a > missed critical dependency can appear to succeed, but leave something > else broken. > I do believe you can omit the *.symbols files. I plan to try it myself. Would someone please confirm this? And you might look at resurrecting the picobsd method of crunching binaries into one single statically linked binary with hard links of differing file names if you want to get really small. I used to do this when compactflash was only 128MiB. Thanks, Jason C. Wells From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 04:30:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CF91065670 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7CF8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so2595364fxm.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=53dtY6IqMARgpMlpEgDzXVCL9zxOU7weLfsRqmhwTT8=; b=RuCa0RnFPygs35+9vSYfFw2L08Jtz3iqnCPV6V3LKTHDTwj+yMdEbnuuWBbWtgAU1c aAlmZRPl/Q6MuuZGHMesMav/mDMojniKXgJbOSjjcIMKf8QQSkEstnLL0IgX2yhDi6Rm EKhax7uwFTVL8bUvuU6Khy5GCfxwzfWg4wYS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Fi2allB8xRQ3ooN1g2pqZ5sb4o4b1KURNqio1NiWTRYAuG2NpHGxt0WAxGmaOQBwvg p+huVrREiZAM2ZchW/YHOhKvNgu+eR2ZIqHKUz9fl7K8fOhfotHmG9fHhOztw2ki+YHH Q6wsZgJsdS8zgreXrOvJp/Rjp4OJ9Ajh2UVWY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.104.199 with SMTP id q7mr1201476fao.6.1284179429243; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:30:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: dave jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about setting bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:30:31 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:29 PM, dave jones wrote: > > > > I think you want to lagg: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-aggregation.html > > In Winodws, I setup a bridge with no problems. But in FreeBSD, it > seems doesn't work :( It does work quite well, Many, many people do it. Windows generally refers to this as network teaming, Linux nic bonding, and FreeBSD does lagg. If you bother to read the handbook link I sent, you'll see a way to accomplish your goal. Your bridge setup also has another error: ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0" You should not set an ip address on a member interface. The bridge interface should get the real ip, no alias. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 04:58:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9E8106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33328FC08 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so2601865fxm.13 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:58:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BH7gKUsNKOwVbm96xeKRIcUWVITSVF1TbPkoGYAMSh4=; b=OCLoH2rLYSV5gy3FK+JZ5VWvYexQMngM/aBFALCZKLMsXhdo1aJmCirYZ8Lbze+kiW yIxS9BzTUJ2wQMOdK+Teux+zAkVcHQH7sYjk3d88t171NLdtr5oPicQQOVNMtSYXYeUO Zo9rUY5Y+WoANWZDfOD4lb/N/VfnVHodDepsc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aOa5SqP3w0gT8I/Hot8E8QlnpnoWBqfg3+7B/37uZ9yCAN/XwKmya8X0XOUi/JOkn3 eNW2+Mx98vFReoCHu2DPRminvJ1qu4eLGi+la6Z/B0YZt9POWQuvcHIRu1v2RioAVqRd xiTxfgHTF+hBYObocF24olWv1RTsIZ3QqoZ74= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.118.69 with SMTP id u5mr1188302faq.32.1284181102705; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:58:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C8AFDF6.5030205@speakeasy.net> References: <4C8AF124.5050808@cyberleo.net> <4C8AFDF6.5030205@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:58:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "Jason C. Wells" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: CyberLeo Kitsana , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel replacement in installation media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:58:24 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote > > I do believe you can omit the *.symbols files. I plan to try it myself. > Would someone please confirm this? > Yes you can remove them safely. > > And you might look at resurrecting the picobsd method of crunching binaries > into one single statically linked binary with hard links of differing file > names if you want to get really small. I used to do this when compactflash > was only 128MiB. > /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd/ /usr/src/tools/tools/tinybsd/ -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 06:00:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4E91065696 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BBE8FC17 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821D83D598 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:00:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8B60BuA001542 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:00:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:00:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20100911080011.99b2d379.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4c8a4eaa.5b8bcc0a.7880.62d3@mx.google.com> References: <4c8a4eaa.5b8bcc0a.7880.62d3@mx.google.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:00:14 -0000 Preface: Sorry for messing up the quotes and all, this message got a bit untidy so that even *I* am unsure who I am currently replying to. :-) On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:24:31 +0000, four.harrisons@googlemail.com wrote: > On 10. sep. 2010, at 16:29, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > > Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until > > then, we're stuck with Flash. Sadly not. While HTML5 standardizes the embedding of video content, there still seems to be a problem with codec to use. All this idiotic crap of patenting, licensing, and all the fee-loaded lawyer-stuff that has NO need to exist in a technical discussion brought "Flash" where it is today: "Flash" is abused as a replacement of HTML, mostly by "professional program managers" and script kiddies. HTML5 browsers would need to be able to play video content out of the box, WITHOUT the need for installing additional codecs "that are illegal to use in my country" - you know what I mean. It's like requiring a plugin at OS kernel level to display text in bold face, or showing a PNG image in a web page! > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > You are forgetting - or conveniently ignoring - that many still > NEED Java support in their browsers - and not of their own choice. I think the initial suggestion to move on was directed exactly at the reasons you mentioned in the next sentence: > Banks, insurances, digital signature services etc. Still frequently > use Java as carrier for their services. Often this cannot be changed > easily as such organizations have long turn-around times and make > investments in the long term. Good software can always be changed easily. :-) > Java is still very much alive, and until html5 can validate and run > signed code it'll stay that way even on the client. And that is just > one of the reasons/scenarios. It's also very famous in education. For example, basic programming courses (not BASIC programming courses!) often use Java to teach the basics of programming. This produces bad programmers. :-) > I'm not using FreeBSD on the desktop for just this kind o reasons. I'm using FreeBSD *exclusively* on the desktop since version 4.0. I never had issues with Java - it always worked. I admit that it wasn't very easy in the first years due to Sun's licensing politics (again, politics are the enemy of every educated technical consi- deration), but it worked. Both in Opera (my main browser) and Firefox, among many "testing bed" browsers I had to use in the past. Since "Flash" works on FreeBSD, I also tried this out. After one week, I removed it. Reason: No need for it. You are right that Java is still needed in some places on the web, but it's far more easy to deal with Java problems than with "Flash" problems, I think. > So either one takes the time to implement what people _need_ in > addition to what you would prefer them to need, or the desktop > can as well be ditched and focus moved to improving FreeBSD for > servers, where it already excels. First of all, please see the big difference between "what people need" and "what people want", and who those people are. I'm sure I don't have to elaborate on this. :-) Second, FreeBSD is an excellent MULTI-purpose operating system that can be used on terminals, workstations, servers, and on all kinds of mixed forms. I would be sad to lose only one of those functionalities. For a more desktop-centric FreeBSD that has all the stuff "what people need", refer to PC-BSD. > Some sites make accessing them difficult without Flash, but I > consider that their problem and move on. Yes, same here. > FreeBSD isn't just good for servers. As I said. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 06:10:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4021065670 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9998FC17 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE34C3D266; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8B6AqNS001556; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:10:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:10:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100911081052.d08cc39e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100910234956.GB63239@guilt.hydra> References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100910234956.GB63239@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:10:54 -0000 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:49:56 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > These days, it seems like the only places > people *really* think they still need Java are smartphones and > "enterprise" systems running on overpriced servers -- neither of which > makes a difference for Firefox on the desktop. Let me add another field: There are applicances like "all-in-one DSL modem telephone splitter router DHCP server NAT firewall boxes" that are very common in german households. Those usually use Java to present their control elements to the user; "Applet loading" is often seen when connected to that box in order to change some setting. I think the initial developers found it better to put a Java applet in there than some PHP generated HTML served by a little web server... they could have used an efficient and professional programming language, too, but that's something you won't find in home consumer crap devices. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 08:11:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BC91065675 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431C68FC16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8B8B0Gv051025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8B8B0cO051024; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA16235; Sat, 11 Sep 10 01:09:07 PDT Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:05:29 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru Message-Id: <4c8b3849.mx6rDwHZtDT6N5YR%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100822052550.GA42346@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100907090012.GA48608@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8616F0.5010401@gmx.com> <20100907110033.GA51618@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C864145.80805@gmx.com> <20100907145223.GA55660@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4C8754CD.6030003@gmx.com> <20100910125534.GA50527@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20100910125534.GA50527@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw fwd and ipfw allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:11:02 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > ... the 'fwd ... keep-state' statement does create a useful > dynamic rule. It contradicts the ipfw(8) man page but works ... Hopefully someone who understands all this will submit a patch for the man page :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 08:17:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B600106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAFE8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so3464174iwn.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:17:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P2Y2s87yN3lJiyIy9rz94NATEg1nzb9/r5geXQp1fcw=; b=xP6rVh0O2R7HD0RCTCwU9fGdaaY3IBWbb1aJWEzWggz9KZX31GUSVBsHNTUg2iCH1F KyQTc/FuFDDk0Z9ZJ6YliuoCBgnrMSVC1ClsvnhJbuBmIRCREKBnCBYvFCspKcikM0iI 35VJVKILOyp9YtlY2OY0D1E+nhNrqSyHBPOAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WvpOtuYby7jVfrIEWfvoq7UWqlhh/OquPtunajVr3PV/2tW/q9aR4wUWxsgGWuSJ1j MHlBgplljNDz9xkeQsVqBYUo1Bzz+cQ7lKg38Qas+mHKgiTAbmM0vVUgWLhqiAjaKKdd tzfRwdwOpxbSkfI7BP1P6wtylB5+JV+uEc+dY= Received: by 10.231.14.140 with SMTP id g12mr2273934iba.84.1284193070445; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-24-14-170-47.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.170.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm3319026ibh.16.2010.09.11.01.17.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8B3B2D.4010803@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:17:49 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100910234956.GB63239@guilt.hydra> <20100911081052.d08cc39e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100911081052.d08cc39e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:17:51 -0000 On 9/11/2010 1:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: > Let me add another field: There are applicances like "all-in-one > DSL modem telephone splitter router DHCP server NAT firewall boxes" > that are very common in german households. Those usually use Java > to present their control elements to the user; "Applet loading" > is often seen when connected to that box in order to change some > setting. I think the initial developers found it better to put > a Java applet in there than some PHP generated HTML served by > a little web server... they could have used an efficient and > professional programming language, too, but that's something you > won't find in home consumer crap devices.:-) > > So to configure your router, you need a java enabled browser, and odds are you get the jar file from the router, so it has an http server, and probably another server just to process configuration requests? Now your router has two servers running, one to get the jar, one to deal with config, instead of one http server with one cgi script. Java has/had its uses, but I don't recall the last time I ran something using java. At the moment when it comes to the browser, flash is more important and that's only for all the websites that want to stream instead of give you a file like they used to. I remember years and years ago starting to learn java. I got really frustrated by spending a few hours going through documentation to find the "proper" way to read a text file. Writing the gui seemed easy, the rest wasn't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 08:28:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2826C106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA54D8FC18 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391AF3DCBE; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8B8S0nl001909; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:28:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:28:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Joshua Isom Message-Id: <20100911102800.c24ac84a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4C8B3B2D.4010803@gmail.com> References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100910234956.GB63239@guilt.hydra> <20100911081052.d08cc39e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4C8B3B2D.4010803@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:28:03 -0000 On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:17:49 -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: > So to configure your router, you need a java enabled browser, and odds > are you get the jar file from the router, so it has an http server, and > probably another server just to process configuration requests? Now > your router has two servers running, one to get the jar, one to deal > with config, instead of one http server with one cgi script. Yes, such complicated devices exist. Accessing it with Java switched off, you can't do anything. Very overcomplicated, and slow. > Java has/had its uses, but I don't recall the last time I ran something > using java. As it has been mentioned, Java is often required in online banking, but as far as I've noticed, it's also less and less important in those fields. I'm not using online banking myself so my opinion is very little substanciated. > At the moment when it comes to the browser, flash is more > important and that's only for all the websites that want to stream > instead of give you a file like they used to. Not only that. Whole suites of development tools are arranged around "Flash" in order to replace dealing with HTML at all. Navigational elements, as well as non-AV content is enclosed in "Flash" to limit accessibility (which of course makes the web less barrier-free, but who cares except cripples - they don't count, majority wins). Also "content protection" is a field where "Flash" is heavily used, like "No, you can't select this text and copy it somewhere else!" What animated GIFs were in the past, that's "Flash" today, but much more ressource-intensive, proprietary, dangerous, and annoying. > I remember years and years ago starting to learn java. It was hard for me to "learn" Java at university when I had already years of C experience. :-) > I got really > frustrated by spending a few hours going through documentation to find > the "proper" way to read a text file. I didn't know there was one. :-) > Writing the gui seemed easy, the > rest wasn't. That's the basic idea: Make it "look good" on the outside, so it appeals to users using the "first sight effect". Don't care for the internals, nobody can see them anyway. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 09:28:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4998106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 09:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9001D8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 09:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1OuMNt-0006KW-F4>; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:28:33 +0200 Received: from e178019247.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.19.247] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1OuMNt-00007q-7R>; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:28:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4C8B4BC0.1000900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:28:32 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100908 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.19.247 Subject: Compiling software with different compiler than cc or clang results in unusable output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 09:28:34 -0000 Dear Sirs, you see me a kind of desperate. I wrote my own a small piece of software in C, calculating the orbit and position of astronomical objects, astroids, in a heliocentric coordinate system from Keplerian orbital elements. So far. The software calculates the set of points of an ellipse based upon ephemeridal datas taken from the Minor Planet Cataloge. Again, so far, everything all right. The set of points of an orbit is all right and correct. But when it comes to positions at a specific time, then I loose hair! Compiling this piece of software with FreeBSD's gcc (V4.2) and clang (clang devel) on my private and lab's FreeBSD boxes (both most recent FreeBSD 8.1/amd64), this program does well, the calculated orbital positions are very close to professional applications or observational checks. But when compiling the sources with gcc44 or gcc45 (same source, same CFLAG setting, mostly no CFLAGS set), then there is a great discrepancy. Sometimes when plotting positions, the results plotted seconds before differs from the most recent. The ellipses are allways correct, but the position of a single point at a specific time isn't correct. I use the GNU autotools to build the package. I suspekt miscompilations in memory alloction or in some time- or mathematical functions like sin, cos. before I digg deeper I'd like to ask the community for some hints how to hunt down such a problem. regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 10:10:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1EB106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brampton@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0168FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so248862qyk.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:10:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=K386+iibZDq8LZTov2KsA4D2Pyda5eMwkuwMaVB86JA=; b=HrZS7ajLYrD0hLZDC/CLKwNgyihkAI3vfb2dCmAIe/xM2FxEF6j7klQeDhu4kPNdOa hnJmMWcxLjtY6iT3WprQ5L3CQ2aFyNIpFHKcVG25AVUA45lP84ZP90LL2xRAtjNz28b+ HLCCHvg+tdRMEV8utnwxlCFN/Cc2o+s4agJxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DK2FaHEimmneuRTIOOfk//cs1Uo8PktvNR0OWS/vy9POAbPYZvfh4wC20VF2UMq+sO qPRQcZqWmf7pP0tRfwCnWmnV1wfA3shXKlyETnPcqdTYSJ5AOUWllS+Dh3tvfBkgNY9H guUXPbgpaIPJbDVIMWDv1ZgidECOo0VrfIngA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.78.233 with SMTP id m41mr1189331qak.27.1284198212574; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: brampton@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.110.7 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:43:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C8B4BC0.1000900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4C8B4BC0.1000900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:43:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: n6npPm4_u8OIjJVg81Kwgvrqxgk Message-ID: From: Andrew Brampton To: "O. Hartmann" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling software with different compiler than cc or clang results in unusable output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:10:45 -0000 On 11 September 2010 10:28, O. Hartmann wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > > you see me a kind of desperate. I wrote my own a small piece of =C2=A0sof= tware in > C, calculating the orbit and position of astronomical objects, astroids, = in > a heliocentric coordinate system from Keplerian orbital elements. So far. > The software calculates the set of points of an ellipse based upon > ephemeridal datas taken from the Minor Planet Cataloge. Again, so far, > everything all right. The set of points of an orbit is all right and > correct. But when it comes to positions at a specific time, then I loose > hair! > > Compiling this piece of software with FreeBSD's gcc (V4.2) and clang (cla= ng > devel) on my private and lab's FreeBSD boxes (both most recent FreeBSD > 8.1/amd64), this program does well, the calculated orbital positions are > very close to professional applications or observational checks. But when > compiling the sources with gcc44 or gcc45 (same source, same CFLAG settin= g, > mostly no CFLAGS set), then there is a great discrepancy. Sometimes when > plotting positions, the results plotted seconds before differs from the m= ost > recent. The ellipses are allways correct, but the position of a single po= int > at a specific time isn't correct. > > I use the GNU autotools to build the package. > > I suspekt miscompilations in memory alloction or in some time- or > mathematical functions like sin, cos. > > before I digg deeper I'd like to ask the community for some hints how to > hunt down such a problem. > > regards, > Oliver Sounds a cool project. I suspect you are miss-using a feature of C or are using uninitialised memory, and with gcc44/45's more aggressive optimisations it is getting it wrong. I have three suggestions 1) Use valgrind to check if it finds anything wrong when running your program. Check both the good and the bad builds. 2) If your program is made up of multiple C files, then try compiling all of the C files with gcc42, but just one at a time with gcc44. This way will help you track down exactly which C file has "the bug". 3) Finally do some printf debugging to find the first line of code that is generating the wrong value. I hope these suggestions help. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 12:26:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4ED106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E20E8FC15 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so3869103vws.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:26:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=u68YTeTBRwsMapAOnWUTfGm+bZufr4HU0rNjaXyM+EY=; b=Fmrrepuja0nSx36ueWP2wo5s8t3WT0BtnAvSn2WGSmrUps7FC7bzoCvDSafDJg3kf8 24DF/C4u7LR7LKL/G2dz1aCBWzj50L0EwZVWk3jg9gokGAMEeHkr4iiYsTcb9F+Md5bO 8yjVY1vJZGFyC1Pn9cJ1HpbLAo1N5cqmanvWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fUCtGCE6WzNWFuRERa6V7eBHh2nWsB2lod2gWyFUiDmn16xbV42mw32qT/1mTYBInv 1WNmJTqFRu0cVFyneWqYeokqj+47eK8ooOJeHPdhuDvZyBGuZe1KuyS3TWiS5be5dDHk mWQYHyg01bOSGRwX1+Jgj32oZMXLRsXCJQNXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.63.78 with SMTP id a14mr1250992vci.225.1284207972009; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.45.147 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:26:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C8B4BC0.1000900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:26:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Andrew Brampton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling software with different compiler than cc or clang results in unusable output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:26:13 -0000 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Andrew Brampton > wrote: > On 11 September 2010 10:28, O. Hartmann > wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > you see me a kind of desperate. I wrote my own a small piece of software > in > > C, calculating the orbit and position of astronomical objects, astroids, > in > > a heliocentric coordinate system from Keplerian orbital elements. So far. > > The software calculates the set of points of an ellipse based upon > > ephemeridal datas taken from the Minor Planet Cataloge. Again, so far, > > everything all right. The set of points of an orbit is all right and > > correct. But when it comes to positions at a specific time, then I loose > > hair! > > > > Compiling this piece of software with FreeBSD's gcc (V4.2) and clang > (clang > > devel) on my private and lab's FreeBSD boxes (both most recent FreeBSD > > 8.1/amd64), this program does well, the calculated orbital positions are > > very close to professional applications or observational checks. But when > > compiling the sources with gcc44 or gcc45 (same source, same CFLAG > setting, > > mostly no CFLAGS set), then there is a great discrepancy. Sometimes when > > plotting positions, the results plotted seconds before differs from the > most > > recent. The ellipses are allways correct, but the position of a single > point > > at a specific time isn't correct. > > > > I use the GNU autotools to build the package. > > > > I suspekt miscompilations in memory alloction or in some time- or > > mathematical functions like sin, cos. > > > > before I digg deeper I'd like to ask the community for some hints how to > > hunt down such a problem. > > > > regards, > > Oliver > > Sounds a cool project. I suspect you are miss-using a feature of C or > are using uninitialised memory, and with gcc44/45's more aggressive > optimisations it is getting it wrong. I have three suggestions > > 1) Use valgrind to check if it finds anything wrong when running your > program. Check both the good and the bad builds. > > 2) If your program is made up of multiple C files, then try compiling > all of the C files with gcc42, but just one at a time with gcc44. This > way will help you track down exactly which C file has "the bug". > > 3) Finally do some printf debugging to find the first line of code > that is generating the wrong value. > > I hope these suggestions help. > Andrew > > Another check may be to use Sun Studio C and or Fortran compilers . These can be used in Linux ( Linux version of Sun Studio ) and/or OpenSolaris or Solaris ( Solaris version of SunStudio ( both in x86 , x86_64 , Sparc ) ( all of them are ( Solaris , OpenSolaris , Sun Studio , Linux ) free ) . All of them are freely downloadable from www.sun.com and/or www.opensolaris.com ( these sites or their pages may be redirected to www.oracle.com owned pages ) . Personally I tried GCC compilers , but I found that they are very unreliable . Now I am using Sun Studio compilers in OpenSolaris and Linux , and never GCC compilers . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 12:58:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C17A106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F8A8FC15 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-109-73.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.109.73] helo=[192.168.33.1]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH g8kbv) (Exim 4.69) id 1OuOyN-0005OG-c1 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:14:23 +0000 From: "Dave" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:14:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4C8B729D.17841.13524491@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> References: , <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.52) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:58:01 -0000 On 10 Sep 2010 at 18:20, Jason C. Wells wrote: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... > On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > > > > Java is not just for browsers. > > Regards, > Jason C. Wells > I can't help wondering if half of you are talking about the "JavaScripting" language that runs in a browser, while the rest are talking about the "Java Run Time Engine" that some (cross platform) standalone app's (and some browser apps) use. All I know is they are very different beasts. dit dit. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 13:04:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC3C106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1808FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-109-73.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.109.73] helo=[192.168.33.1]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH g8kbv) (Exim 4.69) id 1OuOz9-00029I-XT for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:15:11 +0000 From: "Dave" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:15:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4C8B72CE.5719.13530735@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> References: , <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <4C8AD94A.9060404@speakeasy.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.52) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:04:56 -0000 On 10 Sep 2010 at 18:20, Jason C. Wells wrote: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... > On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. > > > > > Java is not just for browsers. > > Regards, > Jason C. Wells > I can't help wondering if half of you are talking about the "JavaScripting" language that runs in a browser, while the rest are talking about the "Java Run Time Engine" that some (cross platform) standalone app's (and some browser apps) use. All I know is they are very different beasts. dit dit. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 13:59:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F4014106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAAD8FC18 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1OuQbv-000161-JM>; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:59:19 +0200 Received: from e178019247.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.19.247] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1OuQbv-0003aa-7z>; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:59:19 +0200 Message-ID: <4C8B8B36.9040601@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:59:18 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100908 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Brampton References: <4C8B4BC0.1000900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 85.178.19.247 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling software with different compiler than cc or clang results in unusable output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:59:21 -0000 On 09/11/10 11:43, Andrew Brampton wrote: > On 11 September 2010 10:28, O. Hartmann > wrote: >> >> Dear Sirs, >> >> you see me a kind of desperate. I wrote my own a small piece of =C2 so= ftware in >> C, calculating the orbit and position of astronomical objects, astroid= s, in >> a heliocentric coordinate system from Keplerian orbital elements. So f= ar. >> The software calculates the set of points of an ellipse based upon >> ephemeridal datas taken from the Minor Planet Cataloge. Again, so far,= >> everything all right. The set of points of an orbit is all right and >> correct. But when it comes to positions at a specific time, then I loo= se >> hair! >> >> Compiling this piece of software with FreeBSD's gcc (V4.2) and clang (= clang >> devel) on my private and lab's FreeBSD boxes (both most recent FreeBSD= >> 8.1/amd64), this program does well, the calculated orbital positions a= re >> very close to professional applications or observational checks. But w= hen >> compiling the sources with gcc44 or gcc45 (same source, same CFLAG set= ting, >> mostly no CFLAGS set), then there is a great discrepancy. Sometimes wh= en >> plotting positions, the results plotted seconds before differs from th= e most >> recent. The ellipses are allways correct, but the position of a single= point >> at a specific time isn't correct. >> >> I use the GNU autotools to build the package. >> >> I suspekt miscompilations in memory alloction or in some time- or >> mathematical functions like sin, cos. >> >> before I digg deeper I'd like to ask the community for some hints how = to >> hunt down such a problem. >> >> regards, >> Oliver > > Sounds a cool project. I suspect you are miss-using a feature of C or > are using uninitialised memory, and with gcc44/45's more aggressive > optimisations it is getting it wrong. I have three suggestions > > 1) Use valgrind to check if it finds anything wrong when running your > program. Check both the good and the bad builds. > > 2) If your program is made up of multiple C files, then try compiling > all of the C files with gcc42, but just one at a time with gcc44. This > way will help you track down exactly which C file has "the bug". > > 3) Finally do some printf debugging to find the first line of code > that is generating the wrong value. > > I hope these suggestions help. > Andrew Hello Andrew. Thanks for your comments, they are worth trying out. I will do so ... item 2) oh, yes, a very good idea ... item 3) I did already, the whole software is built up by those printf's. The problem boiled down to be some problem in the UNIX time routines. I=20 use localtime(3), time(3) and a strftime(3) and strptime(3). I use a 'wikipedia'-algorithm converting the actual time string into an=20 'epoch' used in astronomical calculations. Compiling this routine with=20 gcc42 and clang everything is all right, compiling it with gcc44 or=20 gcc45 it returns 10 times higher values. I use very 'primitive' cutoffs=20 for casting a double value into an int - I need the integrale value, not = the remainings after the decimal point. I will check this again and look = forward for a cleaner solution. But isn't this a 'bug'? I'll try the BETA of the new FreeBSD PathScale compiler if I get some. Well, I'll report ... Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 14:26:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AFF106566C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CD68FC20 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy4 with SMTP id 4so2608236ewy.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:26:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2aPQyw7705TLp7ORv5p8eBUXTTecKwxDPH7Qna0W0xg=; b=RRrgRFRMwcxIBpOAQZTUNWS+voOKKAX+3ggmyc64LY64K9yxV8ddNp2fb0dwjtQPnn /UIaTe6baCWj+GQZbFIGx9GX6HWrBS6dBCR3nUiPedQOfz5cBZ3/YZJTTRO1g4Xr5I3E BA/Slx+a74QPX4l/0RbYJmLcsfMxVb1CJugTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gV4ZUsqiQRPGHPDabEtqhS6gZh8efh9ORpgmvt6UUv91w9KVFRLv7+qGK7M3+Ws9V8 Rdj3OYdMHPqU9qEWx7I42BuI904V+s2zTi2VKWPK8vC74+jUy8jqpex6l/B/HAT2FlsJ 2J0xKM+s7kmy1sTU10bshTFiXIoHAdGA5r1ZA= Received: by 10.213.4.80 with SMTP id 16mr363891ebq.57.1284215161309; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm5798060eeh.5.2010.09.11.07.26.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:25:58 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100911152558.27153c31@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gjournal+geli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:26:02 -0000 I'm planning to use gjournal+geli on a 2TB drive in a USB enclosure. What I've read about this suggest that the order should be: geli-gjournal-ufs. I was wondering if it's possible to do it in the order gjournal-geli-ufs, which should be much more efficient. I've read that ufs should go directly on gjournal, but I just wanted to check that that is needed. I was also wondering about the journal size, and whether there are any performance optimizations to be made to mitigate the extra encryption/decryption in the journal. The man page suggests a size of at least 2xmemory which would be 2x1.5GB now, or maybe 2x16GB to allow for potential upgrades. It seems very large. The disk will hold fairly static data so it will be mostly be long sustained writes as files are copied in. Currently coping from geli to geli with soft-updates is slightly cpu limited. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 15:25:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A321065670 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB658FC1C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so2626576eyx.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:25:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h/670zA6a8gLgpy3cdlUlg7QaKpN0izPcL99/udj/kM=; b=k/Vq9W8PylhFLU9TnX4kM93inyWEokra6cAsItVE2XRHGD4x2utxtS0Q2+6RvpFgKR 8VJUznhnzVj0XQAeknzcPBH8NQGZUb5P+J/1wAc8HocvdY0noBYW/ejjLX5PkszvxXR8 Nx7ejwqPqLmUJRMIbZ0SOlNIXEP/XUAVVmo2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xV2eS41dzL+loFYifw8N9kUdWPYICIEl1m+sJoZo2KEAj0Xgo1F1Wmf1uF3RFqjJ8K nJ9yVWkvfexwu+rfCnSS2WtWgHqWK1f3qsYOG7qEAR88GhPj2onjVMS/d+q4PgofqgyN S/dVILKc2YUMNjWh4BXcvBt78A3Np+YoLvn/I= Received: by 10.213.43.80 with SMTP id v16mr393708ebe.80.1284218749128; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z55sm5877787eeh.3.2010.09.11.08.25.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:25:45 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100911162545.1e2049ca@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201009102058.o8AKwgAr025569@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201009102058.o8AKwgAr025569@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to Best Prevent Unwanted named installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:25:50 -0000 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:58:42 -0500 Martin McCormick wrote: > After successfully installing bind97 from a package on > to a new server, I do a cvs-sup of the system to get the latest > patches in to the kernel. After discovering that bind97 had been > replaced with bind9.6.1, Presumably that's because you explicitly configured the port version to install in the same place as the system version. It doesn't do that by default. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 14:05:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB52E1065673 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D46C8FC25 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1OuQiA-0001cz-H6>; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:05:46 +0200 Received: from e178019247.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.19.247] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1OuQiA-0003rB-5Z>; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:05:46 +0200 Message-ID: <4C8B8CB9.4010104@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:05:45 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100908 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk References: <4C8B4BC0.1000900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 85.178.19.247 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:35:43 +0000 Cc: Andrew Brampton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling software with different compiler than cc or clang results in unusable output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:05:47 -0000 On 09/11/10 14:26, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Andrew Brampton > > wrot= e: > > On 11 September 2010 10:28, O. Hartmann > > wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > you see me a kind of desperate. I wrote my own a small piece of > =C2 software in > > C, calculating the orbit and position of astronomical objects, > astroids, in > > a heliocentric coordinate system from Keplerian orbital elements= =2E > So far. > > The software calculates the set of points of an ellipse based up= on > > ephemeridal datas taken from the Minor Planet Cataloge. Again, s= o > far, > > everything all right. The set of points of an orbit is all right= and > > correct. But when it comes to positions at a specific time, then= > I loose > > hair! > > > > Compiling this piece of software with FreeBSD's gcc (V4.2) and > clang (clang > > devel) on my private and lab's FreeBSD boxes (both most recent > FreeBSD > > 8.1/amd64), this program does well, the calculated orbital > positions are > > very close to professional applications or observational checks.= > But when > > compiling the sources with gcc44 or gcc45 (same source, same > CFLAG setting, > > mostly no CFLAGS set), then there is a great discrepancy. > Sometimes when > > plotting positions, the results plotted seconds before differs > from the most > > recent. The ellipses are allways correct, but the position of a > single point > > at a specific time isn't correct. > > > > I use the GNU autotools to build the package. > > > > I suspekt miscompilations in memory alloction or in some time- o= r > > mathematical functions like sin, cos. > > > > before I digg deeper I'd like to ask the community for some hint= s > how to > > hunt down such a problem. > > > > regards, > > Oliver > > Sounds a cool project. I suspect you are miss-using a feature of C = or > are using uninitialised memory, and with gcc44/45's more aggressive= > optimisations it is getting it wrong. I have three suggestions > > 1) Use valgrind to check if it finds anything wrong when running yo= ur > program. Check both the good and the bad builds. > > 2) If your program is made up of multiple C files, then try compili= ng > all of the C files with gcc42, but just one at a time with gcc44. T= his > way will help you track down exactly which C file has "the bug". > > 3) Finally do some printf debugging to find the first line of code > that is generating the wrong value. > > I hope these suggestions help. > Andrew > > > > Another check may be to use Sun Studio C and or Fortran=C2 compilers .= > These can be used in Linux ( Linux version of Sun Studio )=C2 and/or > OpenSolaris or Solaris ( Solaris version of SunStudio ( both in x86 , > x86_64 , Sparc )=C2 ( all of them are ( Solaris , OpenSolaris , Sun > Studio , Linux =C2 ) =C2 free ) . All of them are freely downloadable f= rom > www.sun.com and/or www.opensolaris.com > ( these sites or their pages may be > redirected to www.oracle.com owned pages ) . > > Personally I tried GCC compilers , but I found that they are very > unreliable . Now I am using Sun Studio compilers in OpenSolaris and > Linux , and never GCC compilers .=C2 > > Thank you very much . > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > > > > =C2 Hello. Well, the only other architectures I have access to are Linux boxes. clang ist a very nice compiler since its syntax checking is formidable.=20 But its code is slow and there seems no OpenMP support at the moment. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 15:47:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAA8106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A778FC08 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm4 with SMTP id 4so2794379fxm.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:47:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BcK1kLo/cHDDzgegepNwAMNxRC8LTIi2YNxogia5QTs=; b=CuCe/Ga223Rx6HXbP+AzHC51o+lTSzLVJ7zGv6eBhIQj5rnGLafs91R1mmtyRvO+Pl cWn58/cps92rKgN6Sq8InaHGVB6NEaJwRnshYi2uEAHJuVP10hdwBCZOUX8LVzZ/YS99 9WYgQ2Q3PTjC+cgj0jOCjdGz0XDfVPTgYy3NU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PxY1Q5GoSQNNHItZt8y5ckgsJuRCz/Km7NCjq3stOSJXYcsX3bmVIZP9i7clXitrKi k+mdWDu7qrRfCU3ls0t6x50M/i7AuDcJRxwmWTnwzmDk4NyUqTgjmel0F1Oo93gPee2H yq7aQNSfmwpd/iHQRqcNVb/msSMsAp7z7fguw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.122.196 with SMTP id m4mr1646391far.20.1284220023943; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:47:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100911152558.27153c31@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20100911152558.27153c31@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:47:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gjournal+geli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:47:06 -0000 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:25 AM, RW wrote: > > I'm planning to use gjournal+geli on a 2TB drive in a USB enclosure. > > What I've read about this suggest that the order should be: > geli-gjournal-ufs. I was wondering if it's possible to do it in > the order gjournal-geli-ufs, which should be much more efficient. I've > read that ufs should go directly on gjournal, but I just wanted to > check that that is needed. > > I was also wondering about the journal size, and whether there are any > performance optimizations to be made to mitigate the extra > encryption/decryption in the journal. The man page suggests a size of at > least 2xmemory which would be 2x1.5GB now, or maybe 2x16GB to allow for > potential upgrades. It seems very large. The disk will hold fairly > static data so it will be mostly be long sustained writes as files are > copied in. Currently coping from geli to geli with soft-updates is > slightly cpu limited. > AFAIK, ufs must be on top of gjournal. Specific changes were made to allow ufs to be aware of the journal and I think sticking geli in-between would destroy that relationship. IME, gjournal is more sensitive to load as the man page also suggests. I have one production server with moderate load, and a 5 GB problem. I think something like 5 -10 GB journal would be more than enough for almost all loads, but that's just a guess. It's easy to test though, just run blogbench or some other io benchmark for a sustained period of time. If it doesn't panic, you're golden. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 16:25:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016DA1065672 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818468FC17 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8BGPcmD028596; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:25:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4C8BAD82.8020907@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:25:38 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100727 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <201009102058.o8AKwgAr025569@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <201009102058.o8AKwgAr025569@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to Best Prevent Unwanted named installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:25:55 -0000 On 09/10/10 21:58, Martin McCormick wrote: > After successfully installing bind97 from a package on > to a new server, I do a cvs-sup of the system to get the latest > patches in to the kernel. After discovering that bind97 had been > replaced with bind9.6.1, I looked in /usr/src and there is a > contrib/bind9 directory. What is the safest way to disable that > build without adversly effecting the rest of the update? > > The reason for doing these things in this order is that > I would like to get bind running as quickly as possible since it > takes a couple of hours or more to get the world built when we > could be doing DNS. > > Since I am not using that version of bind, not getting > it built is no problem. I don't even care if it gets built so > long as it does not end up in /usr/sbin to clobber the new > bind9.7. If your ports version of named is in /usr/sbin you must have enabled the REPLACE_BASE option in the port. From man src.conf > WITHOUT_BIND > Setting this variable will prevent any part of BIND from being > built. When set, it also enforces the following options: [list of sub options snipped] Add WITHOUT_BIND= true into /etc/src.conf, and the next time you rebuild the world the base system bind will be left out of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 18:42:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50D0106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf13.insightbb.com (mxsf13.insightbb.com [74.128.0.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31478FC14 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:42:51 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,352,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="196246427" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf13.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 11 Sep 2010 14:42:50 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao81AN9pi0xKgCiCO2dsb2JhbACHaowdjUAMAQEBATUtvi2FPQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,352,1280721600"; d="scan'208";a="382628937" Received: from 74-128-40-130.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.128.40.130]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 11 Sep 2010 14:42:50 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:42:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:42:51 -0000 Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... admin@laptop2(/dev/pts/1)/usr/home/admin 106% apropos mysql mysql(1) - the MySQL command-line tool mysql.server(1) - MySQL server startup script mysql_config(1) - get compile options for compiling clients mysql_install_db(1) - initialize MySQL data directory mysql_tzinfo_to_sql(1) - load the time zone tables mysql_upgrade(1) - check tables for MySQL upgrade mysql_waitpid(1) - kill process and wait for its termination mysqladmin(1) - client for administering a MySQL server mysqlbinlog(1) - utility for processing binary log files mysqlbug(1) - generate bug report mysqlcheck(1) - a table maintenance program mysqld_safe(1) - MySQL server startup script safe_mysqld - MySQL server startup script mysqldump(1) - a database backup program mysqlimport(1) - a data import program mysqlshow(1) - display database, table, and column information mysqltest(1) - program to run test cases mysqltest_embedded - program to run embedded test cases slapd-ndb(5) - MySQL NDB backend to slapd mysql(1) - the MySQL command-line tool mysql.server(1) - MySQL server startup script mysql_config(1) - get compile options for compiling clients mysql_install_db(1) - initialize MySQL data directory mysql_tzinfo_to_sql(1) - load the time zone tables mysql_upgrade(1) - check tables for MySQL upgrade mysql_waitpid(1) - kill process and wait for its termination mysqladmin(1) - client for administering a MySQL server mysqlbinlog(1) - utility for processing binary log files mysqlbug(1) - generate bug report mysqlcheck(1) - a table maintenance program mysqld_safe(1) - MySQL server startup script safe_mysqld - MySQL server startup script mysqldump(1) - a database backup program mysqlimport(1) - a data import program mysqlshow(1) - display database, table, and column information mysqltest(1) - program to run test cases mysqltest_embedded - program to run embedded test cases slapd-ndb(5) - MySQL NDB backend to slapd -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s): kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5 X.Org X Server 1.7.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 19:32:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04538106566C for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A068FC1A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so4094203vws.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:32:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pgCZ1GXoLXZIfRT1tx1LnXn5P5XmVDw86ny4RlhcyTE=; b=gNDF8Ok514P9/RAwEPlogI0HUxJECrXamtfYfd65MhEk4wyN/vxDCSD3uXZxuVTPK6 KO67wzI321ju3wSKzwwBT//xZNgFQK3w77taX/JGySptCf/Hr8//1Yg6J8i/anhqiSlP jcbHxjKEmDaz2I0rY/zYceLH85hxZIUKfGjek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lyhSb2H/5d1GB9VtCXjBhPpJ8xfrfSbzbLj4ZRovkj01Xyh386lGNNb4VuagFkBbQQ dJHq9i+qIOxzWduTOnnaXcxAeRYJgZTLYLzWntwSxbZa1ABrtdcRFxPxi2uo/LRt37bO zcNzilU1gnitI9N5uAa12HMWHmozz8qjE4BJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.87.69 with SMTP id v5mr1515186vcl.273.1284233560904; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.45.147 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:32:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C8B8CB9.4010104@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4C8B4BC0.1000900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4C8B8CB9.4010104@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:32:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: "O. Hartmann" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Andrew Brampton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling software with different compiler than cc or clang results in unusable output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:32:42 -0000 On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, O. Hartmann < ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > > Hello. > Well, the only other architectures I have access to are Linux boxes. > > clang ist a very nice compiler since its syntax checking is formidable. But > its code is slow and there seems no OpenMP support at the moment. > > Oliver > > The following pages may be useful : www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/downloads/index-jsp-141149.html www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/downloads/index-jsp-136197.html www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/documentation/express-june2010-137081.html ( Please notice Support for OpenMP 3.0 features in the C, C++, and Fortran compilers: ) This means that you may use Oracle Solaris Studio on Linux with OpenMP 3.0 support immediately . I do not know whether they can be used in FreeBSD as Linux programs or not , because I did not study such a possibility . For me , using Linux directly is easy . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 20:45:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DBD106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@gmail.com) Received: from smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.84.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D29EF8FC20 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55811 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2010 20:19:17 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.21] (jguojun@76.199.106.73 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2010 13:19:16 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: _W3S2iKswBDfBNwPef2o8yCDuz1I0bm75RGhmNP4m1vG X-YMail-OSG: k5cgBZsVM1kTcMZfFVxa80e9pt_uzTc.TssyaGBvDos9LSp 87qN.V4NfFg41L8ne_zCjgYLo_rIoE78ipB5PUSEWqDjeWJS2EXCJ4QF.Av6 EF_BB_sWeL0LS.1Zmfe6jc8Mf1joiT7AqujFuOSOETFLQvThBgEJNJzij8XY A4JvTYdyapWQedeEFmozXrAKJsQYxI02vTd2pCNCjzJ91.vA0D6TMHJ1o8Gt fw3c31laZBBu5n24zuje4tsW8Z.FPeI4LzPnj05sb1tfrNew- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4C8BE43C.8050200@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:19:08 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun\[VFF\]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20100630 X-Accept-Language: en, zh, zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:29:14 +0000 Cc: Subject: gs-8-8.71 under 8.1-Release missing x11 devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:45:58 -0000 gs 8-8.71 under FreeBSD 8.1-R seems missing x11 device. When use ghostview, it complains "/unknown device x11" /By tracing around, I found it was caused by gs 8-8.71. As typing "gs --help", it shows much less devices supported than gs 8-8.62 under FreeSBD 6.4-R. By searching on the Internet, one message says that this could be resulted by build config. Is this true? or can gs be dynamically configured to use x11 device? Hopefully, users do not have to recompile ghostscript. -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 21:32:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2305D1065670 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E170C8FC08 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so4120090iwn.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=J93tcmgto5vtCgKCwXaK17Z02epNxz9aQlNayogyMtE=; b=Ur0ny6G5BcUjDY8HP60ME4HRU1yAxa1eZObEW1Hd1SQhNjqfR4/0eA28gWU7qrM+1M 1QBVTYNsrGj1TnOA2tZ5yd+4BB55AMbTEHmMWWYsPQFTCh9k1vsEJp4Ee4FX9/ejEXM/ 09wPvE6/YPHdh50QMh4aLE3BpeYFkfNaomq48= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fGr/vkA0NPJ/WelG4nSGu/pPSM+i9bprOyrkq7FxsgSN2Ne1BNAbxW2nSryW5XvTYt cNdyqK/AuNIdSKreTq9q91E8up7e5RufzKDfK/O29C7MUhjY23/9Q/vXi1gyUNnUdvwQ W6kmp0bwYEoTvKiaqx39pu8DNQRlMbUfNMcss= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.161.80 with SMTP id q16mr3308156ibx.142.1284239106243; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.151.204 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:05:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: xvidtune and nouveau video driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:32:28 -0000 Ever since Debian went to the "nouveau" video driver for Nvidia, I have not been able to adjust my horizontal screen position with xvidtune. The application runs, but when I try to reset the "HSyncStart" value I get an error dialog box that says, "Sorry: You have requested a mode-line that is not possible, or not supported by your hardware configuration." This didn't happen with the old "nv" driver. Does anyone know a fix other than reinstalling "nv"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 22:47:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCFA106564A for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B70F8FC15 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so5295157wyb.13 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:47:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=suU/16u1jVrQqEWS1C/Vilx0Igw5EwTzTYB2U6CHCo4=; b=T/llV13scQBIz+fRAZuebjeJwPaNIOeN0ieM+dNDPjyJWNiLjVbzWv/9Mubsru+rz1 sQvQNAD8tALHEyvjQgXVOZwLXs9Efg7SJiQ1AJMDr48b98VkzJTN55vatMF6kx+5OqRS k5u4DWuPk9OfUN15GyBs4nBBgPzm8z/36aIZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J80iRvyPemFRP58dTAbC0Qlxh4V6aMZsPekjrL4BaUnq9uXM6Pr/yS7HUxxPXqGCuJ GAdOlDDMdDJqIWqUbKJrMNP6eeDSwiHFSyonYMk3oFtFerkOUaohOT1cLmvNsfznUtML t4FWdQ6V86dDziU4cBgQeJ1q6qZbbNwenmjS4= Received: by 10.227.157.77 with SMTP id a13mr1368331wbx.177.1284243737581; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.52] ([85.105.64.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m25sm3631313wbc.19.2010.09.11.15.22.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8C0110.20801@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:22:08 +0300 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgrading packages - portupgrade confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:47:46 -0000 Hi, I have 2 servers one production and another test. The test machine's packages however, seem to be older then the production machines one's even though I built the production system a few months ago. I used the: portupgrade command in order to try to upgrade the ports nad re-install the packages only the same versions seem to be compiling??? I ran: portupgrade -ai on the base system as the system where these packages are installed into is a FreeBSD jail. The ports in question are these: tomcat-6.0.29 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 6.x branch postgresql-client-8.2.17_1 PostgreSQL database (client) postgresql-server-8.2.17_1 The most advanced open-source database available anywhere Which on my newer test system show up as such: postgresql-client-8.2.13 PostgreSQL database (client) postgresql-server-8.2.13 The most advanced open-source database available anywhere tomcat-6.0.20_1 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 6.x branch I don't understand this 100%??? I would like the versions to be the same as the production system since I have a postgres-Tomcat connector which doesn't work on the test setup as my Tomcat webapp isn't being displayed!! Can I do anything about this?? I don't even know why it is like this although I must admit that it has been an exceptionally long day and am really suffering from fatigue now which might be a contributor but I can't tell..... Can anyone give me any advise?? Many thanks and best regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 23:52:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17730106566B for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F048FC08 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:52:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from [192.168.1.12] (174-124-5-227.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.5.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8BLNXne019862 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:23:35 GMT Message-ID: <4C8BF21C.2090706@centurytel.net> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:18:20 -0500 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=L7wfYzyIJxjDpiTuTjlbBA+N3e3WohDDIf2/DEMr2IU= c=1 sm=1 a=6tzaRX78V-AA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=sfYg6hIXqQ1nZ+1YuDYenw==:17 a=-sc6ZKV-WlFR02fujRkA:9 a=e8eNOPu-io-Btr4DN6IA:7 a=yrvd_BH76YF0NMoPWZA_s9JSA40A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=sfYg6hIXqQ1nZ+1YuDYenw==:117 Cc: Subject: portupgrade -a stops at building gnome-menus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:52:10 -0000 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #>uname -a FreeBSD ****@****.net 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1 RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Aug 12 08:43:46 CDT 2010 ****@****.net:/usr/obj/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Running on VirtualBox Version 3.2.8 r64453 running on current Debian 'lenny', Pentium 4 2.4 GHz. 4G ram. portsnap update on 09/08/2010. Trying to do 'portupgrade -a', initially had a portupgrade stop at '/usr/ports/graphviz' an error about 'dot' and doxygen. Built doxygen and graphiz from the individual /usr/ports/*** directories after 'portsclean -DLP' and individual 'make clean' in the respective /usr/ports directories. Had the "/usr/local/include/python2.6/pth.h link to /usr/local/include/pth/pth.h" issue. Fixed that and portupgrade borked at building gnome-menus. '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpth'. Did ln -s /usr/local/lib/pth/libpth.a /usr/local/lib/ and ln -s /usr/local/include/pth/pth.h /usr/local/include/python2.6/ - again. Ran make install clean from /usr/ports/x11/gnome-menus after executing make clean. Still no joy. Yeah, I'm a 15 year linux guy, but, I've installed and used FreeBSD around the 5.0-RELEASE days so I don't think I'm totally clueless. I'm running it as a virtual machine because I would like to install it on a new machine once I get past the test drive and checkout. Tried to build a new kernel a week or two ago and that went awry. Deleted the VM and reinstalled from the RELEASE dvd.iso. What am I doing wrong? Michael D. Norwick PS: I've R.T.F.M'd and Googled. Filed a bug report on the graphviz issue but now I don't think it was a problem with the graphviz build.