From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 11:54:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2631065670 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148B8FC12 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD8E2.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.216.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p7ABrxsV068540; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:54:00 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7ABrng9034224; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:53:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7ABrTFo076427; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:53:45 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201108101153.p7ABrTFo076427@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Mason Loring Bliss From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:11:47 EDT." <20110803031147.GF3896@blisses.org> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:53:29 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:54:04 -0000 Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > Attached, Not attached. (Mailman discards attachments on various lists). > please find a screenshot of the current front page of Netcraft. > This can be seen here: > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2011/07/08/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-june-2011.html Not top page now, Never was a copy of top page, but an archived copy of Part of what was top page. > I thought it might be worth a mention on the freebsd.org front page. Not chance on _front_ page, IMO. It would have to come off again next month. Nice idea to put a reference somewhere to top 3 all being FreeBSD that month. Run send-pr & provide text diff & specify which www sub page it should apply to, to achieve what you suggest. Just posting this list will not achieve it. > I'm not subscribed to advocacy@, so if you want to reply to me, please do so > explicitly. Done Mason Loring Bliss Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 16:38:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4405F106567A for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3988FC1B for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD8E2.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.216.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p7AGc1MD070593; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:38:08 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7AGbs2X035372; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:37:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7AGbiUb081811; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:37:49 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201108101637.p7AGbiUb081811@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Mason Loring Bliss From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:47:25 EDT." <20110810144725.GB2242@blisses.org> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:37:44 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:38:32 -0000 Hi, I restored cc:advocacy@freebsd.org which Mason Loring Bliss dropped. Reference: > From: Mason Loring Bliss > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:47:25 -0400 > Message-id: <20110810144725.GB2242@blisses.org> Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:53:29PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Not attached. (Mailman discards attachments on various lists). > > I was referring to my message's state on leaving my system. I of course can't > speak to what external software does to it. > > > > > please find a screenshot of the current front page of Netcraft. > > > > Not top page now, > > Again, I used the word "current" to denote something with a temporal aspect. > > > > Never was a copy of top page, > > Is a photograph of a person still a photograph of that person if it only > shows their face, or their upper torso? Pedantry can be amusing, but only > when it's unassailably accurate. Please file a precise proposal via send-pr, what text should change from what to what on which FreeBSD page. Else your post achieves nothing. > > Nice idea to put a reference somewhere to top 3 all being FreeBSD that month. > > Agreed. > > > > Run send-pr & provide text diff > > I'd have to install FreeBSD or some portion of it to have a send-pr that > knows to talk to FreeBSD project servers. Wrong. There's also a live web interface running on FreeBSD server, 2 clicks from top page http://www.FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html > This is slightly more effort than > the good feeling of helping the advocacy effort is worth to me, as it turns > out. > > Just posting this list will not achieve it. > > In that case, it won't happen, and I'll think nothing more of it! But, in any > event, thank you for your reply. If you will not install FreeBSD, Use http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html , Do neither to prove yourself irrelevant to FreeBSD as no page would change. > -- > Mason Loring Bliss mason@blisses.org Ewige Blumenkraft! > (if awake 'sleep (aref #(sleep dream) (random 2))) -- Hamlet, Act III, Scene I Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 16:57:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9895106566B for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mason@blisses.org) Received: from phlegethon.blisses.org (phlegethon.blisses.org [50.56.97.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD33F8FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blisses.org (c-68-58-147-105.hsd1.in.comcast.net [68.58.147.105]) by phlegethon.blisses.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C64B1C00C9; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:57:30 -0400 From: Mason Loring Bliss To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20110810165730.GD2242@blisses.org> References: <20110810144725.GB2242@blisses.org> <201108101637.p7AGbiUb081811@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201108101637.p7AGbiUb081811@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:57:32 -0000 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 06:37:44PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I restored cc:advocacy@freebsd.org Posting something sent privately to a public list is inappropriate and in general considered rude. Perhaps you've not been using the Internet terribly long, so I'll forgive it this time, but look into netiquette sometime. Here's a good start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette > Please file a precise proposal via send-pr, what text should change from > what to what on which FreeBSD page. No. Now, go away. I was trying to be helpful, but now you've driven out any vague interest I had in this. > Do neither to prove yourself irrelevant to FreeBSD as no page would change. Is the advocacy list filled with morons? I saw something that should be of interest to the freebsd-advocacy folks. I sent an email about it. If you have an interest in using it, do your own work. If not, forget about it. But either way, get a god damned clue. -- The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which. - G. Orwell From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 18:01:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FF5106566C for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from question+advocacy@closedsrc.org) Received: from dalek.closedsrc.org (dalek.closedsrc.org [72.1.133.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C0D8FC17 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dalek.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 5000) id 2AB12CF0F2; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:43:00 -0700 From: Linh Pham To: Mason Loring Bliss Message-ID: <20110810174300.GB30715@closedsrc.org> References: <20110810144725.GB2242@blisses.org> <201108101637.p7AGbiUb081811@fire.js.berklix.net> <20110810165730.GD2242@blisses.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110810165730.GD2242@blisses.org> Organization: closedsrc.org Mail-Copies-To: poster X-PGP-Key: http://closedsrc.org/~lpham/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:01:32 -0000 On 2011-08-10 12:57 -0400, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > Posting something sent privately to a public list is inappropriate and in > general considered rude. Perhaps you've not been using the Internet terribly > long, so I'll forgive it this time, but look into netiquette sometime. Here's > a good start: Perhaps you don't know who you are replying to, so I'll forgive it this time, but look research Julian Stacey sometime. Here's a good start: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/cv/ He's definitely not a newbie to the Internet or FreeBSD... particularly the latter. -- Linh Pham question+advocacy@closedsrc.org From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 19:53:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EF2106564A for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE728FC18 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD8E2.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.216.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p7AJrXCN072098; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:53:34 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7AJrSRi036066; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:53:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7AJrIVJ082965; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:53:28 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201108101953.p7AJrIVJ082965@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Mason Loring Bliss From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:57:30 EDT." <20110810165730.GD2242@blisses.org> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:53:18 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:53:39 -0000 Mason Loring Bliss cc advocacy@ > From: Mason Loring Bliss > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:57:30 -0400 > Message-id: <20110810165730.GD2242@blisses.org> Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 06:37:44PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > I restored cc:advocacy@freebsd.org > > Posting something sent privately to a public list is inappropriate and in > general considered rude. Perhaps you've not been using the Internet terribly > long, so I'll forgive it this time, but look into netiquette sometime. Here's > a good start: No one else explained to you how to contribute your info. to FreeBSD So I tried, as I just knew it would get buried in mail archive, & FreeBSD would not benefit from your posting unless you bothered to send-pr & identify a particular FreeBSD web page where we could incorporate a text & link. So you wrote: 1 You don't use FreeBSD, 2 You are not subscribed to advocacy@freebsd.org, 3 You do not want to contribute, 4 You called me a pedant. Well I'm easy on (4), I don't know you, & don't need your opinion after 1,2,3. But then 5) You moan about restoral of CC advocacy@, but 1,2,3 are relevant to the list thread, as it's thus clear one of us should do work you refuse. Ref.: > If you will not install FreeBSD, Use http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html , > Do neither to prove yourself irrelevant to FreeBSD as no page would change. Now 6 You insult advocacy@freebsd.org > Is the advocacy list filled with morons? Please do not abuse list advocacy@freebsd.org -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 21:46:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD58106564A for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhyous@yahoo.com) Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ED638FC08 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2011 21:32:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2011 21:32:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2011 21:32:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 839896.59751.bm@omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 446 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2011 21:32:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1313011969; bh=OGcZy1p4NqLb+rBL4R8/HplNrgI6o/VOBNcEHiQoWe0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Mlt7IfsbIBZSq4f5lU/ZTHnpzrgzcarlSzLIWm3t5LuKX4y5x4OyoQvyLVrGiCtwNrQDJc210SZ9rFBc+AV0nTgVNJvaaduHjBNAt5IbFUwZvIOLbpYq8aVt8wvQKGUjkbNWv8PS34AylQFbQoR4x+F4dneuQUFKFGGPtza/LPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PpYVPLEe3zjVnoxztPw3u5lWp8DH9dgwrxTjQhsTug5BFggXyCkb/NbahEslrVoVaezWliwpjxwkBf+GX5QsDYmp4V1eZG6M4RTNcq5sxBWAOWZSTHD0FkivdzE/KoRnyIG8Fo0oISIBQKk+FOMR4VYtprSd//tLm0iwFxNZq6Q=; X-YMail-OSG: lXlQnLsVM1nnBcEMg1EbC67QH4XxHuOEsoIVU6g4qJgNx1b lB32v5jDLviejNWtx64EJAyvFfWsSmnnK5TREEq6XpD7lBi3LTHF4ABzgp.L XkK.UTTn25S5D5DVPzlbmRR_qGhwEOvQQuSvRkC3R1WWDQg4BEB.T4EY6hax jBKBpNy3Si2Ez0szO09L8o1WGrftI6GkJIIM4RET.Csq3by5YNWaAGX7lYHI WpQ1QqEmtjDqgGj58Fn4kSqZ8xu5yTHys8vsi7wcCyNelxv.0OwBLqr60Zhh F7U.EgAtqbD12R_E_1Ofi74kthTt1sgRDS5JiE4vx5ti7fOJBRNaiYEB9Twg Ajtovw5iLKjTzqRborFh32XfiM4D6qeVWKXUPs.q_tCOz5slCBWunUA_hpbe bbG3LQ9B_DsANIMyK679cPEpQngjkBO.SbImiFW4ptF89GF40OLcmz0V10ZF Q__DNim3A5qQUUARHdLEsKRyecqPwU71529zKMrWnnpen7.9GDDJkKz6B02P CvWK85XzMNI.i_ya5gTLpVH.ju_CWGyNEbexi56tvi9Gye.cljTY_XtAxWaq bNxog Received: from [192.206.100.4] by web130211.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:32:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.313619 References: Your message "Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:57:30 EDT." <20110810165730.GD2242@blisses.org> <201108101953.p7AJrIVJ082965@fire.js.berklix.net> Message-ID: <1313011969.95613.YahooMailNeo@web130211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jared Barneck To: "Julian H. Stacey" , Mason Loring Bliss In-Reply-To: <201108101953.p7AJrIVJ082965@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "advocacy@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jared Barneck List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:46:04 -0000 Mason,=0A=0AThank you for your suggestion. It was definitely appropriate to= email this list with it, regardless of whether the decision to display thi= s information on the FreeBSD's home page goes either way.=0A=0ASometimes sh= ort answers come across as rude unintentionally and so responses turn into = nasty-grams.=0AObviously this post escalated into nasty-grams, which is unf= ortunate. Also, sometimes their is a "do it yourself" attitude that came ac= ross in the wrong way and seemed to more attack you than provide you a proc= ess to do it yourself.=0A=0ALet me apologize for all of us who have more te= chnical skills than social skills. I hope your experience with FreeBSD is n= ot going to be defined by one negative email exchange.=0A=0AIf you have any= questions, don't hesitate to contact me directly. I can help submit a PR i= f necessary or any of the other tasks.=0A=0ALet's start over with this resp= onse:=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 Thanks for the suggestion.=A0 =0A=A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0=A0= =A0 It might not go far if a problem report (PR) is not submitted. A PR can= be submitted here: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html.=0A=A0=A0=A0 =0A=A0= =A0=A0 Would you like to submit the PR yourself or are you hoping someone o= n this list does it?=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0AJared=0Ahttp://www.rhyous.com/freebs= d-friday/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 22:24:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF09106566C for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60698FC21 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD8E2.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.216.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p7AMOJoi073184 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:24:19 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7AMOFCO036796 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:24:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7AMOAiq086170 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:24:15 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201108102224.p7AMOAiq086170@fire.js.berklix.net> To: advocacy@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:53:18 +0200." <201108101953.p7AJrIVJ082965@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:24:10 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:24:21 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > as it's thus clear one of us should do > work you refuse. > Ref.: > > If you will not install FreeBSD, Use http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html , > > Do neither to prove yourself irrelevant to FreeBSD as no page would change. I found a freebsd.org page where it could be added, & ran a send-pr I'll post ID when I get auto reply. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. 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Stacey" , "advocacy@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <201108102224.p7AMOAiq086170@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jared Barneck List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:57:53 -0000 > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote:=0A=0A>=0A> I found a freebsd.org page where it = could be added, & ran a send-pr=0A> I'll post ID when I get auto reply.=0A>= =0A> Cheers,=0A> Julian=0A> -- =0A> Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys En= g Consultants Munich http://berklix.com=0A> Reply below, not above;=A0 Inde= nt with "> ";=A0 Cumulative like a play script.=0A> Format: Plain text. No= t HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable.=0A=0AThanks Julian= ! From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 10 23:21:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB22106564A for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A2F8FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (pD9FBFCDA.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.252.218]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p7ANLiAM073459; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:21:45 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7ANJcq8037058; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:19:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7ANJUPA086586; Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:19:35 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201108102319.p7ANJUPA086586@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Jared Barneck From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:44:08 PDT." <1313016248.47386.YahooMailNeo@web130201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 01:19:30 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: "advocacy@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Netcraft reliability survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:21:47 -0000 Jared Barneck wrote: > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > I found a freebsd.org page where it could be added, & ran a send-pr > > I'll post ID when I get auto reply. > > Thanks Julian! Thanks to you too Jared, I see you were next volunteer up to bat, well done :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=159664 Now awaits a commiter presumably from freebsd-www@ If any of you want to add text / whatever, One can click on "Submit Followup" Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 11 18:39:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E211065673 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dracosplace.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEA58FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yib19 with SMTP id 19so1811659yib.13 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:39:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.23.9 with SMTP id u9mr2564564yhu.43.1313086126512; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.136.11 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:08:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Dan Rowe To: advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Press Release / Case Study Opportunity X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:39:15 -0000 I work at a large e-commerce company that is in the process of moving our entire web-farm from Windows over to FreeBSD and re-branding in the process. With all the press and news we are going to be pumping out next month i figured it would be a good opportunity for positive exposure and PR for FreeBSD being used in a large, successful, online business. Do you think there would be interest in making something like this happen? If so who would be the best person to discuss about a Press Release or Case Study? I did find the argentina.com casestudy from a while back. I can definitely just put a pr in to add a couple pages to the docs section with our data if that's the preferred method. Just didn't know what other opportunities / options would be available. -Dan From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 11 21:06:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD54B106564A for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from c-0500.emailmediator.com (c-0500.emailmediator.com [64.85.162.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8578FC1D for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pool-71-164-190-204.dllstx.fios.verizon.net ([71.164.190.204] helo=reedmedia.net) by c-0500.emailmediator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qrbt8-0004bp-VC; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:29:59 -0400 Received: from reed@reedmedia.net by reedmedia.net with local (mailout 0.17) id 8345-1313094599; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:30:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:29:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" X-X-Sender: reed@t1.m.reedmedia.net To: Dan Rowe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (NEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Press Release / Case Study Opportunity X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:06:15 -0000 On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Dan Rowe wrote: > I work at a large e-commerce company that is in the process of moving > our entire web-farm from Windows over to FreeBSD and re-branding in > the process. > > With all the press and news we are going to be pumping out next month > i figured it would be a good opportunity for positive exposure and PR > for FreeBSD being used in a large, successful, online business. That sounds great. > Do you think there would be interest in making something like this happen? > If so who would be the best person to discuss about a Press Release or > Case Study? Yes. I think this list will be fine. I will be glad to help edit, write, provide feedback, as needed. > I did find the argentina.com casestudy from a while back. > I can definitely just put a pr in to add a couple pages to the docs > section with our data if that's the preferred method. > Just didn't know what other opportunities / options would be available. I will let others comment on that (link to outside case study / press release versus hosting own). From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 11 21:06:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48311106566B for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from c-0500.emailmediator.com (c-0500.emailmediator.com [64.85.162.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258438FC1E for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pool-71-164-190-204.dllstx.fios.verizon.net ([71.164.190.204] helo=reedmedia.net) by c-0500.emailmediator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qrbtm-0006Z0-5L; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:30:38 -0400 Received: from reed@reedmedia.net by reedmedia.net with local (mailout 0.17) id 2526-1313094638; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:30:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:30:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" X-X-Sender: reed@t1.m.reedmedia.net To: Dan Rowe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (NEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Press Release / Case Study Opportunity X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:06:16 -0000 I just realized this was the public list :) I will reply to you with a different email address.