From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 07:38:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12793106566B; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EDE8FC12; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id JAA05203; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:20:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Pyfav-000082-4T; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:20:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4D7C7024.3030506@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:20:04 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110308 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=X-VIET-VPS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: kernel with DDB for installation/live ISOs X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:38:17 -0000 Nathan, since you are working on a new installer and changing some things about what installation image is and how release is made, I would like to propose/discuss the following change. What about adding option DDB to the kernels booted from installation images? While adding DDB to installed kernels (GENERIC) would/could be a POLA violation and a potential security issue, having DDB in installation kernels would help a lot with debugging issues where users can't even get installation system to boot. Thank you for your work! -- Andriy Gapon