From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 11 21:33:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E46106564A for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounceback@info.idgenterprise.com) Received: from mail02.info.idgenterprise.com (mail02.info.idgenterprise.com [204.92.22.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6E38FC08 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: NetworkWorld To: chat@freebsd.org Date: 11 Apr 2011 17:03:10 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?q?PCI_2=2E0=3A_What=E2=80=99s_New=3F_What_Matters=3F_Wha?= =?utf-8?b?dOKAmXMgTGVmdD8=?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: NetworkWorld List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:33:13 -0000 DQoNCk5ldHdvcmtXb3JsZCBoYXMgYSBuZXcgcmVzb3VyY2UgYXZhaWxhYmxlIGluIG91ciB3 aGl0ZXBhcGVyIGxpYnJhcnkuIFdlIGludml0ZSB5b3UgdG8gZG93bmxvYWQgaXQgbm93Lg0K DQoiQVNULTAwMjQzNzlfU0FOU19QQ0lfMi4wXy1fV2hhdF9zX05ldyIgW2h0dHA6Ly9hcHAu aW5mby5pZGdlbnRlcnByaXNlLmNvbS9lL2VyLmFzcHg/cz0xODU2JmxpZD03NSZlbHE9ZjQz ZDBjODc4NGEzNGFmMTlmMjhiYmYwOWM2Njk4YThdDQoNClBDSSAyLjA6IFdoYXTigJlzIE5l dz8gV2hhdCBNYXR0ZXJzPyBXaGF04oCZcyBMZWZ0Pw0KDQpUaGUgaW5jbHVzaW9uIG9mIHZp cnR1YWxpemF0aW9uIGluIFBDSSAyLjAgZGVtb25zdHJhdGVzIHRoYXQgdGhlIFBDSSBEU1Mg ICAgICAgICBzdGFuZGFyZCBjYW4ga2VlcCBwYWNlIHdpdGggbmV3IHRlY2hub2xvZ2llcy4g VGhpcyBwYXBlciBkaXNjdXNzZXMgICAgICAgICB3aGF04oCZcyBuZXcgaW4gUENJIDIuMCBh bmQgb2ZmZXJzIGd1aWRhbmNlIG9uIGNsb3NpbmcgZ2FwcyB0aGF0IHN0aWxsICAgICAgICAg bmVlZCBhdHRlbnRpb24gcGFydGljdWxhcmx5IGluIHRoZSBhcmVhcyBvZiBzdG9yYWdlIGVu Y3J5cHRpb24sIHdpcmVsZXNzICAgICAgICAgbmV0d29ya2luZywgYW5kIHBoeXNpY2FsIHNl Y3VyaXR5Lg0KDQpodHRwOi8vcmVzb3VyY2VzLm5ldHdvcmt3b3JsZC5jb20vc2hvdy8yMDAw MDIwMTkvMDAxOTc3NTAwMjQzNzlOV1dCWVlGMUNTUUYyLyBbaHR0cDovL2FwcC5pbmZvLmlk Z2VudGVycHJpc2UuY29tL2UvZXIuYXNweD9zPTE4NTYmbGlkPTc1JmVscT1mNDNkMGM4Nzg0 YTM0YWYxOWYyOGJiZjA5YzY2OThhOF0NCg0KDQoNCkZvcndhcmQgdGhpcyB0byBhIEZyaWVu ZCA+Pj4gW2h0dHA6Ly9mb3J3YXJkdG9mcmllbmQubnd3LmNvbS9mMmYuYXNweD9tPSUlb3V0 bWFpbC5tZXNzYWdlaWQlJSZmPSUlZW1haWxBZGRyXyUlJnM9b25saW5lJmI9bnd3Jm10PXBy XSANCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCg0KU1VCU0NSSVBUSU9OIFNFUlZJQ0VTIC0g WW91IGFyZSBjdXJyZW50bHkgc3Vic2NyaWJlZCBhcyBjaGF0QGZyZWVic2Qub3JnIElmIHlv dSBkbyBub3Qgd2lzaCB0byByZWNlaXZlIGZ1dHVyZSBtYWlsaW5ncyBmcm9tIE5ldHdvcmsg V29ybGQgT25saW5lIFJlc291cmNlcywgbmVlZCB0byBjaGFuZ2UgeW91ciBlbWFpbCBvciBv dGhlciBwcmVmZXJlbmNlLCBwbGVhc2UgdmlzaXQ6IGh0dHA6Ly9vcHRvdXRzLm53dy5jb20v aW5kZXguaHRtbD9kZXB0X2lkPTU1JmVtaWQ9Y2hhdEBmcmVlYnNkLm9yZyBbaHR0cDovL29w dG91dHMubnd3LmNvbS9pbmRleC5odG1sP2RlcHRfaWQ9NTUmZW1pZD0lJWZpZWxkXzVfJSVd DQoNCklmIHRoZSBhYm92ZSBVUkwgaXMgbm90IGVuYWJsZWQgYXMgYSBsaW5rLCBwbGVhc2Ug Y29weSBpdCBpbiB0byB5b3VyIGJyb3dzZXIgd2luZG93IHRvIGFjY2VzcyBvdXIgU3Vic2Ny aXB0aW9uIFBhZ2UuDQoNClZpZXcgTmV0d29yayBXb3JsZCdzIG9ubGluZSBwcml2YWN5IHBv bGljeSBbaHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZXR3b3Jrd29ybGQuY29tL3Rvcy5odG1sXS4NCg0KQ29weXJp Z2h0IDIwMTEgfCBOZXR3b3JrIFdvcmxkIHwgNDkyIE9sZCBDb25uZWN0aWN1dCBQYXRoIHwg RnJhbWluZ2hhbSBNQSAwMTcwMSB8IHd3dy5uZXR3b3Jrd29ybGQuY29tIFtodHRwOi8vd3d3 Lm5ldHdvcmt3b3JsZC5jb20vXQ0KDQo= From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 15 05:23:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2B0106566C for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7D88FC0A for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so1234169yie.13 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:23:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WIUGyANhVpTCmpseeFGRW1K/V7/8ir9PtfZiejO+wJw=; b=QaAzAHMsaxCfz9Y3LzDiA6yi8Cy9XzRxW9D1c2VwklJyAb7v6vQC/fczQWvOZSdigq OA0LngXBGEcavNBjQ7FvsVeFVxYj15xHW8Wshi3ZdxWQrKfyJ5Q5udWYJdxDV0j2ry6u Zlz8catCH2R1Y6nvcRZ9ngR8MszRslQGOM4tI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ckilb1bMT/eWL+mLFydHAhe45Jjtfm79SFKR3upFd9Yx5OshKRsanUrnyxKSXqZOc1 gvVbNk3lK0bnOqS/qkJv3HdRp1xLOUWPKVXj1k8rId5ZWG7S9gZCYQsC1oAWqT2zP689 eS+6vAsLMYiu+pbSRjevlPxoGG/Hoq9BN6D+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.127.228 with SMTP id d64mr341141yhi.480.1302843120158; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.10 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:52:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: FreeBSD chat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: gmail vs freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:23:19 -0000 I for what ever reason do not trust my self to store my critical digital information locally and thus store it all on these different free services that have a long duration (they or their parent organization) such as gmail and other such first gen on line file stores for the masses sites... well the issue is I am running out of disk room on gmail after 5 years of a no delete policy (10's is 100's of thousands emails) and I need to filter out and delete the ones I will truely never read from those that I might read and those that for a lack of a better phrase "OMG HOW DID I FORGET THIS ONE".... large numbers of these can be filtered out by some short of fairly trivial regular expression (a DFA that has no sub FA that is a NFA level RE's).... I can do this with some fancy download and store your local machine as a system in box and use procmail or something to do this... for personal reasons we dislike the idea of having download and then upload and are looking for a solution that can be completely in gmail.... namely we want to sort the archived mail into categories or do the same but sorted by sender... we then want to use it by googls good ad-hoc search allows us to comb the archieve while getting rid of email that will never be dealt with by with a human this requries some fancy gmail configs also... I do not expected anyone here to be but can anyone point me to a good site to start my studys on advanced gmail use From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 15 08:46:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD154106566C for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mx.critical.ch (cl-8.zrh-02.ch.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:1620:f00:7::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579798FC08 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wiggles.bwns.ch (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.critical.ch (8.14.4/8.14.4/critical-1.0) with SMTP id p3F8kWmt025225; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:46:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:46:32 +0200 From: Emanuel Haupt To: Aryeh Friedman Message-Id: <20110415104632.febdc84a.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD chat Subject: Re: gmail vs freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:46:35 -0000 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I for what ever reason do not trust my self to store my critical > digital information locally and thus store it all on these different > free services that have a long duration (they or their parent > organization) such as gmail and other such first gen on line file > stores for the masses sites... well the issue is I am running out of > disk room on gmail after 5 years of a no delete policy (10's is 100's > of thousands emails) and I need to filter out and delete the ones I > will truely never read from those that I might read and those that for > a lack of a better phrase "OMG HOW DID I FORGET THIS ONE".... large > numbers of these can be filtered out by some short of fairly trivial > regular expression (a DFA that has no sub FA that is a NFA level > RE's).... I can do this with some fancy download and store your local > machine as a system in box and use procmail or something to do this... > for personal reasons we dislike the idea of having download and then > upload and are looking for a solution that can be completely in > gmail.... namely we want to sort the archived mail into categories or > do the same but sorted by sender... we then want to use it by googls > good ad-hoc search allows us to comb the archieve while getting rid of > email that will never be dealt with by with a human this requries some > fancy gmail configs also... I do not expected anyone here to be but > can anyone point me to a good site to start my studys on advanced > gmail use Gmail offers standard IMAP - you might be able to script something with ports/mail/imaptools. Emanuel From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 15 22:52:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF9A1065672 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexsm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB848FC0C for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3448052bwz.13 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:52:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=zCZOnNRA9UTjYatGYhO8bot353xorISdzlwaXEyC/ek=; b=mI/pq246R4GL+5s8LDgDAIynwYYFe/Cy546s3lDequuhjduwOYdUpU0A6ZV6m6OaqQ JvOegJ8f9Du4UpWSuFzkbBFS/Sw+Y9dnhm9zp9GXPQxC/oeidHP26xPuKTZJFamtZ887 NYCSly7sk30GjgCi20S5nOSh+A6GKINsYgwbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=CWAP17lbL1otgA1VxNsEKi1dsCojXwv/pRkWZvMnCijn1Y/MfLsQsGBOrI1rxlJbig aoaRJB+iiVDHCiTD9Q2pzEsklg8EX0YJawnD1HChH69vyxV19ZuditOZ5vpFiqTOXdYl Jo44B2eSVpqRxor0gtFLq7eSj23frniAocoY8= Received: by 10.204.14.137 with SMTP id g9mr1942518bka.134.1302906453135; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:27:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.100.134 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:27:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alex Moura Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:27:13 -0300 Message-ID: To: Aryeh Friedman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD chat Subject: Re: gmail vs freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:52:13 -0000 2011/4/15 Aryeh Friedman > I for what ever reason do not trust my self to store my critical > digital information locally and thus store it all on these different > free services that have a long duration (they or their parent > organization) such as gmail and other such first gen on line file > stores for the masses sites... well the issue is I am running out of > disk room on gmail after 5 years of a no delete policy (10's is 100's > of thousands emails) and I need to filter out and delete the ones I > will truely never read from those that I might read and those that for > a lack of a better phrase "OMG HOW DID I FORGET THIS ONE".... large > numbers of these can be filtered out by some short of fairly trivial > regular expression (a DFA that has no sub FA that is a NFA level > RE's).... I can do this with some fancy download and store your local > machine as a system in box and use procmail or something to do this... > for personal reasons we dislike the idea of having download and then > upload and are looking for a solution that can be completely in > gmail.... namely we want to sort the archived mail into categories or > do the same but sorted by sender... we then want to use it by googls > good ad-hoc search allows us to comb the archieve while getting rid of > email that will never be dealt with by with a human this requries some > fancy gmail configs also... I do not expected anyone here to be but > can anyone point me to a good site to start my studys on advanced > gmail use > Maybe it is possible to achieve what you look for using Gmail's advanced search operators, filters and labels. Particularly useful are the Gmail Lab's features: - SmartLabels - Nested labels - Go to label - Import/Export filters - Search autocomplete Pointers: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7190 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=guide.cs&guide=1075350&topic=1075367&answer=1075381 http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/02/gmail-adds-folders-by-improving-label.html http://lifehacker.com/#!276499/build-advanced-gmail-filters-and-persistent-searches http://www.gtricks.com/gmail-tricks/gmail-transfer-email-accounts/ Alex