From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 12:00:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612E4106566C for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 12:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4B18FC0A for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 12:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so5383849bwz.13 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 05:00:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4kCj3evQpix6QrLjvXIV7QaSGeXe9wmay378GTmm53Y=; b=p1NdrPnGZMhFkIIDeZ3NnnCqT2lFabp8rcEn93ywa8bHCNkIO4tGeXlUOH7xb33un1 TebdENmRw3YeuL2ydQ9SuLeZtuLyAuGpDXK2n7htGuzahJMuBBeWs0bn+1GwcN4RrZP4 zD/mK3TY2z/4kdCWjJi6UaEqFWDhDMjTjeJko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=k8yDMtXUpoPgz4eMyQoHxQqlzWGbKelIZf1ZcuR6LPdJPPXOGuAO5JLVE/gvK9QIWi WKO1SrcIdP0Jcoprjt55ldn16LKeY2M439uOtRpKfSp7REkE+bXvU7bAE4QYqJNEO86b 1oIulp7KOhL9A76OS+eXNCUe+SFqfzbYvOh3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.32.65 with SMTP id sj1mr435251bkb.36.1305545671873; Mon, 16 May 2011 04:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.3 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2011 04:34:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <00b601cc11d5$5c83f5c0$158be140$@vicor.com> <24057187-9777-4CFF-92D1-1D6103B35280@vicor.com> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:34:31 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Evans To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Devin Teske Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:00:29 -0000 On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > My main idea is that the present Boot-Loader Menu -- version 1.5 is a very > good menu . Instead of destroying its elegant structure , the already > available FreeBSD Boot Loader ( actually Kernel selection ) menu could be > improved and may be used IF IT IS SUITABLE for the USER ( otherwise the user > may not select it during installation ) . > I disagree entirely, the boot loader knows nothing of kernels, it only presents the bootable drives/partitions as the BIOS sees it. Calling the boot loader a kernel selection menu is disingenuous, since this is simply a by-product of having different kernels on different drives/partitions, whilst the most commonly desired kernel selection (kernel vs kernel.old) is not available via this method. Cheers Tom