From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 08:08:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3DA1065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EC08FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p5Q7aRHX027404; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:36:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:36:27 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20110625191708.GA1182@tiny> Message-ID: <20110626165210.P72504@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110625182502.GF29050@albert.catwhisker.org> <20110625191708.GA1182@tiny> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-130588093-1309073787=:72504" Cc: Bastian Rieck , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:08:21 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-130588093-1309073787=:72504 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:17:08 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Saturday, June 25, 2011 a las 11:25:02AM -0700, David Wolfskill escribió: > > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 07:34:24PM +0200, Bastian Rieck wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > > > I need to replace my old IBM Thinkpad R50e, which is running FreeBSD > > > 8.2. Currently, my favoured replacement is a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E520. > > > .... > > > > I rather like the laptop I've been using for the past several months: a > > Dell Precision M4400. I track stable/8 & head (in different slices) on > > it daily; it normally takes about an hour to take care of both of those. > > I run a bunch of laptops/netbooks, all with some older 8-CURRENT or now > 9-CURRENT (head): > > Acer Aspire One D250 > Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M1437G > Asus EeePC 900 > Dell M4400 How well does suspend/resume work on these? An absolute must for me. My Thinkpad T23s always resumed 100% reliably through 6.x and 7.x, still does at 7.4-R, but since 8.0-R through to 8.2-R they completely freeze for an even 60 seconds on resume, after which I often get a bunch of 'time went backwards' errors - sometimes on every process running - so I've never felt able to really trust it after resuming. Noone seems to know about that issue; probably no developers have i386 laptops anymore. > Ofc, every laptop has its own problem, for example with sound, and needs > special attention (read: finding a solution); > > concerning graphic, it's not an FreeBSD issue, but havin support in Xorg > for the chipset; > > the best way, if youd dealer allows it, would be to boot the laptop in > question with a recent Knoppix DVD to see in detail what is in the box > and then check the FreeBSD man(4) pages if it is supported; The PC-BSD 8.2 memstick might be a good option for that sort of testing. Unlike the FreeBSD memsticks it's a full DVD-sized image on a proper MBR slice, so you can write eg a verbose dmesg.boot and sysctl -a to another slice for later evaluation on an 8GB+ stick, from the fixit boot. Guess I should try booting it on my daughter's EeePC, 1050 as I recall. > > And it has a 1920x1200 display -- as well as 2 sets of 3 mouse buttons > > each (each of which works as expected). > > > > I have found that I sometimes manage to slide the "WiFi disable" switch > > to an unwanted setting accidentally, and the power connection slips out > > a little too easily, but those are about the worst things I can think of > > with respect to the hardware. > > I have the same problem with the M4400 :-) it's just a bad hardware/case > design; I suppose that's not a problem as long as it then behaves ok on battery. I've never much fancied Dells but with the demise of 'proper' IBM/Lenovo laptops, I'm trying to keep an open mind to others. How's that Fujitsu? cheers, Ian --0-130588093-1309073787=:72504--