From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 00:26:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008D0106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D528FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EB45C44 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:33:39 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3B74F9.2010207@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:23:21 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110122213300.GA96479@thought.org> <5b8c5d7f434c514eaa41e058570f954a@mediamonks.com> <20110122232542.GB96612@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110122232542.GB96612@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:26:37 -0000 On 01/23/11 09:25, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:22:51PM +0100, Terrence Koeman wrote: > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >>> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 22:33 >>> To: FreeBSD Mailing List >>> Subject: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... >>> >>> >> [snip] >> >> >>> # telnet 10.47.0.230 >>> Trying ... >>> telnet: connect to addr n.n.n.n: Connection refused >>> telnet: Unable to connect to remotr host >>> >>> Does the "Connection refused" signify anything in the bind/dns world. >>> ? >>> >>> BEfore i portupgraded to bind97 from bind9, this kind of stuff worked. >>> >>> >> Seeing as you're not resolving any hostname it's not DNS. >> >> You also have not specified a port for telnet to connect to so it'll default to 23, which you probably don't want. Try 'telnet 10.47.0.230 80' (80 is the standard port for http). >> > > YES. I get into ethic as with a normal telnet; when i hit return, I > see index.php; the source, not the web file that lynx of firefox > shows. I'll KVM over to my desktop and cut/paste from there. > >> BTW, the 'Connection Refused' message means that the port is closed and sending a RST, which means that either nothing is listening on the port or that the system is sending RST's because of a firewall rule. If you haven't setup such rules you can assume the first to be the case. >> >> > wHat _should_ be listening on port 80 that isn't? > > > Apache or any other http server >> -- >> Regards, >> T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk >> >> MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) >> Please quote relevant replies in correspondence. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 00:28:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F65106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E462F8FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E875C44 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:35:23 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:25:05 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: follow up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:28:20 -0000 On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote: > something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for days i > seem to be getting "spammed" with multiple copies of some mail. these dup > mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to. Just strange that this mail bug > happened at the same time that my bind troubles began. > > > > Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get multiples of those even if others are replying to replied posts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 00:30:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5407710656B5 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EB18FC2B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:30:20 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-Sophos: Scanned and found clean X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [217.195.122.32] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.4c1) with XMIT id 6721642; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:30:19 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:31:21 +0100 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: <65dfb9c24084864789667a81bf7f7fef@mediamonks.com> In-Reply-To: <20110122232542.GB96612@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: Acu6lNumXw/SE4o/TkqL0ponSbF6NQ== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "Gary Kline" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.53.1/1.53.11.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 00:30:21 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 00:26 > To: Terrence Koeman > Cc: Gary Kline; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:22:51PM +0100, Terrence Koeman wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline > > > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 22:33 > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > # telnet 10.47.0.230 > > > Trying ... > > > telnet: connect to addr n.n.n.n: Connection refused > > > telnet: Unable to connect to remotr host > > > > > > Does the "Connection refused" signify anything in the bind/dns > world. [snip] > > > > Seeing as you're not resolving any hostname it's not DNS. > > > > You also have not specified a port for telnet to connect to so it'll > default to 23, which you probably don't want. Try 'telnet 10.47.0.230 > 80' (80 is the standard port for http). > > YES. I get into ethic as with a normal telnet; when i hit > return, I > see index.php; the source, not the web file that lynx of firefox > shows. I'll KVM over to my desktop and cut/paste from there. That is what is supposed to happen. This step is just to see what telnet re= turns: timeout, connection refused or some page. If you get some page then = there's a webserver on port 80 that is serving you *something* at least. > > > > BTW, the 'Connection Refused' message means that the port is closed > and sending a RST, which means that either nothing is listening on the > port or that the system is sending RST's because of a firewall rule. If > you haven't setup such rules you can assume the first to be the case. > > > > wHat _should_ be listening on port 80 that isn't? Well, if you saw page source then there's a webserver listening on port 80. -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote relevant replies in correspondence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 01:07:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94006106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubert.chadaj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1828FC16 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22so581047pvc.13 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:07:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KUgwK3N4NHs/6u3KWYuhDfO/4iaU0atPF4XDySccwvg=; b=EfEz2JisGZDHxcAWP9btoXf6MGdMfhKfEWcCYtmW3lT+xYNEdYFwkmQaHuFWv3v2qe t++/bxo8GXg7gLxSRq9M4vh/dQk1qlBYYy9Nru72bkIvh37oL7uoF7Pnz7bU4JBKtjTn Pm3l5Y6Ow4DHgTB3UBki2SwSTxJ6fD0I4WQ/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vgE25g9LVa3TpSDBCZZezNjArUZDkMFg+CatJzGwlcYWiUCDjjMCaXvb2wSyuLzKWn nnS/2fQXmMmJPotPgb6Wu0WCF5v6jGB0Wzwa8DK6Qi9tjDUzvd9zxu/s+k/WPbsCidUR +MGr4kllSDvF++3rJgrZLPfYcjzwYV097bCXI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.136.18 with SMTP id j18mr2173632wfd.39.1295743108243; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.136.3 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:38:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:38:28 +0100 Message-ID: From: Hubert Chadaj To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Configuration of Ath0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:07:31 -0000 Hello, I have a Wireless card with Atherneros chipset, a have problem with runing wlan on mode N? Can you halp me? I done instalation of that with that how to: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html, and It works on moge G. With regards, Hubert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 01:25:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70230106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93B78FC12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0N1P32S075879; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:25:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4D3B836D.9050409@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:25:01 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101213 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20110122213300.GA96479@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110122213300.GA96479@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:25:26 -0000 2011-01-22 22:33, Gary Kline: > first, i tried a telnet thought.org and it failed, but only by hanging. then > i tried a telnet of ethic by its private ip. was refused instantly:: > > i cannot cut/paste in ctwm here on ethic, but it was > > # telnet 10.47.0.230 > Trying ... > telnet: connect to addr n.n.n.n: Connection refused > telnet: Unable to connect to remotr host > > Does the "Connection refused" signify anything in the bind/dns world. ? No. It signify that n.n.n.n isn't listening on whatever port you try to connect to. > BEfore i portupgraded to bind97 from bind9, this kind of stuff worked. Check your config. thought.org does not resolve: %telnet thought.org thought.org: hostname nor servname provided, or not known ethic.thought.org DO resolve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 01:47:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1280C106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D07898FC0A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5519 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jan 2011 01:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 01:47:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=WdBfdYQ5XcMz2CzGporeOOe1QHwmMKlyNWrxZqihH3zv6JAK0r5y8SDn9wOTlE+kiPEw8izWH5I8tV1dV9jUasM8tgBG+7O+n1UK2aqLH/hkw67sN6jvUm4kEeJYAPv+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pgp2n-0008E9-W3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:47:07 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:37:47 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:37:47 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: follow up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:47:08 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:25:05AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for > >days i seem to be getting "spammed" with multiple copies of some mail. > >these dup mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to. Just strange that > >this mail bug happened at the same time that my bind troubles began. > > Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get > multiples of those even if others are replying to replied posts. More specifically, I think it's because people tend to group-reply rather than list-reply. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk07hmsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW8HgCgurvda2nou0mD2CysrWnhe0+m PZEAn14vhwTY21fKlzqaPXIexIUesgsM =tori -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 02:00:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8D81065799 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail963c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail963c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC898FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:00:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from blacky.norwickhouse.net (174-124-35-119.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.35.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail963c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0N20rb7006053 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:00:54 GMT Message-ID: <4D3B8BD4.5010606@centurytel.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:00:52 -0600 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100629 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=FaP+qPOmcLigx2VS2h1+/mVlCb38u491VNzw7+SmOLQ= c=1 sm=1 a=bxKj6HLtCKEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1kf9EuSGpTLFoLf9O9aMsA==:17 a=Gless7yqe8eRSyUhh2wA:9 a=AhiE4Z2QUzNrXnzau8Bq4HpBqiUA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=1kf9EuSGpTLFoLf9O9aMsA==:117 Subject: Colorized compiler/linker messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:00:56 -0000 Good Day, I have seen this for some time when building ports and was wondering how it was done. GCC when compiling and linking certain programs, ebook for example, emits messages in various colors. How is that done? Where does one find what the various colors are supposed to signify? Or, is it just because it's more appealing? Thank You, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 03:05:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BE3106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0997c54d95=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73248FC14 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4385 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2011 02:38:34 -0000 Received: from mail1.iecc.com (64.57.183.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 23 Jan 2011 02:38:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=4a9b.4d3b94aa.k1101; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=82aY1CxoxI1UukI6+LNJEFw6zoq3Oaj54UXCP2oDTZw=; b=K2PO/ZsgPQHj6+AFItpQ4i7x46hZHgfAV/xUy/wnkimXTes68iZIH0auBfJmpUEUsune8VpemIQ2pDAs1ySMGkCwl5SwsmktvaDGGgaeMKG1I/JeZxMNOK9ragKEEcTde241PI6cO/jP0QOKn6Q8psqIKTmKHi2HTz/F4OlFT8w= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 23 Jan 2011 02:38:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:05:17 -0000 My Lenovo laptop running 8.1 has two ordinary Intel network adapters, a wired PRO/1000 with the em driver and a WiFi PRO/Wireless 5300 with the iwn driver. They work fine, but for either one if I use ifconfig to change the MAC address, the adapter won't actually work until I change the address back to the native one. Typical symptoms are endless DHCP queries with no response. Is this a known problem? As far as I know, it's supposed to work. R's, John PS: If you were wondering, obnoxious airport wifi that cuts you off after an hour and won't let you back on until the next day, keyed by MAC address. em0: port 0x1840-0x185f mem 0xf2600000-0xf261ffff,0xf2625000-0xf2625fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 em0: Using MSI interrupt iwn0: mem 0xf2500000-0xf2501fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 iwn0: MIMO 3T3R, MoW, address 00:21:6a:b5:18:48 iwn0: [ITHREAD] iwn0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps iwn0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps iwn0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 04:00:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB231065695 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE7F8FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 444CFE8099F; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:00:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:00:47 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110123040041.GA7871@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: bind97 from /bar/log/messages.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:00:51 -0000 Can anybody spot what's messed up here and help me get back up? >From earlier errors I added and then removed an "A" address label before the "IN NS ns1.thought.org" ... That was the only thing I could think of, and things still failed. HEre is the apropos part of the log: Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: starting BIND 9.7.2-P3 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: built with '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn' '--enable-threads' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS= -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: NS 'ns1.thought.org' has no address records (A or AAAA) Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: not loaded due to errors. Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/internal: loading from master file 3bed2cb3a3acf7b6a8ef408420cc682d5520e26976d354254f528c965612054f.mkeys failed: file not found Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/external: loading from master file 3c4623849a49a53911c4a3e48d8cead8a1858960bccdea7a1b978d73ec2f06d7.mkeys failed: file not found Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: running And regarding the "managed-keys-zone" I have no clue. i do have a file named rndc.key or suchlike, but that is as close as I can come to anything to do with that string. ...So hope some of you DNS wizards know. tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 04:01:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960AD10656A6 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896C58FC12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0N47jkc026104; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:07:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:07:45 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101230407.p0N47jkc026104@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bernt@bah.homeip.net, kline@ns1.thought.org In-Reply-To: <4D3B836D.9050409@bah.homeip.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:01:20 -0000 > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:25:01 +0100 > From: Bernt Hansson > Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... > > thought.org does not resolve: 'irrelevant, and immaterial'. > %telnet thought.org > thought.org: hostname nor servname provided, or not known 'thought.org' does _not_ need to resolve. it is a 'domain-name', not a 'host'. 'r-bonomi.com' doesn't resolve either. but hosts _under_ that domain do. In the real world, this means =only= that one cannot use to reach a home page. one has to use instead From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 04:15:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2F51065670 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DB78FC13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0N4MtRo026181; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:22:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:22:55 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101230422.p0N4MtRo026181@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mnorwick@centurytel.net In-Reply-To: <4D3B8BD4.5010606@centurytel.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Colorized compiler/linker messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:15:20 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 22 20:10:21 2011 > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:00:52 -0600 > From: "Michael D. Norwick" > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Colorized compiler/linker messages > > Good Day, > > I have seen this for some time when building ports and was wondering how > it was done. GCC when compiling and linking certain programs, ebook for > example, emits messages in various colors. How is that done? "Whatever it is" that is writing the messages is putting out 'terminal control' character strings that specify the color. > Where does > one find what the various colors are supposed to signify? Read the _complete_ documentation for 'whatever it is' that is producing the messages. The colors signify 'whatever it is' that the author of that software chose to represent with that color. There are *NO* "universal standards" for such things. > Or, is it just > because it's more appealing? (A) "appealing" is in the eye of the beholder. (B) *why* 'somebody' did something/anything is known *only* to the party that actually _did_ it. You can ether ask *them* or get uninformed speculation from third parties. In broad, diagsnotic messages can be divided into a minimum of 4 'classes' (finer gradation is always possible): diagnostic -- 'gory details' of what the program is doing internally, to find out where what it is actually doing is different from what one 'expects' it to be doing. informational -- things you might 'want to know about', but do not indicate potentially incorrect operation. warning -- things which *probably* indicate a problem, but might be 'as intended' error -- something which is, without question, incorrect, and prevents proper program operation. A developer -might- use different colors for different 'classes' of messages, so that an experienced user of that program (who 'knows' what color is used for what) can tell 'at a glance' the serverity of the thing being reported. [ see (B), above, as regards applicability to -your- situationn ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 04:34:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B8B106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1E8FC0C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0N4g44D026263; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:42:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:42:04 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101230442.p0N4g44D026263@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org In-Reply-To: <20110123040041.GA7871@thought.org> Cc: Subject: Re: bind97 from /bar/log/messages.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:34:23 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 22 22:08:52 2011 > Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:00:47 -0800 > From: Gary Kline > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Cc: > Subject: bind97 from /bar/log/messages.... > > > Can anybody spot what's messed up here and help me get back up? > > >From earlier errors I added and then removed an "A" address label > before the "IN NS ns1.thought.org" ... That was the only thing I could > think of, and things still failed. > > Here is the apropos part of the log: > > > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: starting BIND 9.7.2-P3 -c > /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: built with '--localstatedir=/var' > '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' > '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--with-openssl=/usr' > '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn' '--enable-threads' > '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' > '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' > 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS= > -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface address in use > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored **PROBLEM** _something_ is already using the port named is trying to listen on, for an IPv4 address associated with interface em0 > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored **PROBLEM** _something_ is already listening on the specified port on the loopback (lo0) interface, as well. > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: not listening on any interfaces **PROBLEM** the 'something' beat this invocation of 'named' to the punch on _all_ the interfaces it was trying to listen on for queries. dead in the water. > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored **PROBLEM** _something_ is already using the 'control' port named is trying to use, for an IPv4 address associated with interface em0 > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored **PROBLEM** _something_ is already using the 'control' port named is trying to use, for an IPv4 address associated with the loopback interface. > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: NS > 'ns1.thought.org' has no address records (A or AAAA) **PROBLEM** in the config file being used. you have a line that declares "IN NS ns1.thought.org", but *NO* line "ns1.thought.org IN A {IPv4 address}" or "ns1.thought.org IN A {[IPv6 address]}" > > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: not loaded due to errors. **PROBLEM** entire zone file ignored due to errors ini it. > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/internal: loading > from master file 3bed2cb3a3acf7b6a8ef408420cc682d5520e26976d354254f528c965612054f.mkeys > failed: file not found > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/external: loading > from master file 3c4623849a49a53911c4a3e48d8cead8a1858960bccdea7a1b978d73ec2f06d7.mkeys > failed: file not found > Jan 22 19:44:54 ethic named[2069]: running Running, but doing nothing. > And regarding the "managed-keys-zone" I have no clue. i do have a file > named rndc.key or suchlike, but that is as close as I can come to > anything to do with that string. ...So hope some of you DNS wizards > know. > > tia, > > gary > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The > 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > .. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 04:45:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AB4106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7497D8FC13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0N4rVpk026352 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:53:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:53:31 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101230453.p0N4rVpk026352@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: {kline@thought.org} Your email is screwed up, AGAIN! ( Re: bind97 from /bar/log/messages....) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:45:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:42:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- kline@thought.org (reason: 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to ethic.thought.org.: >>> DATA <<< 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required. 550 5.1.1 kline@thought.org... User unknown <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 05:01:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1194106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAEB8FC15 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yszd1f00117dt5G5At1dqA; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:01:37 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yt1b1f0031f6R9u3Zt1b3s; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:01:37 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:01:33 -0800 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:01:33 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110123050133.GA87892@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3B8BD4.5010606@centurytel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3B8BD4.5010606@centurytel.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: Colorized compiler/linker messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:01:37 -0000 On Sat 22 Jan 2011 at 18:00:52 PST Michael D. Norwick wrote: >Good Day, > >I have seen this for some time when building ports and was wondering how >it was done. GCC when compiling and linking certain programs, ebook for >example, emits messages in various colors. How is that done? Where >does one find what the various colors are supposed to signify? Or, is >it just because it's more appealing? CMake can be used to generate Makefiles that produce colorized output, and I would wager that it's being used by most of the ports where you're seeing color. But there are many tools a developer might use for this. For example, I found this in my bookmarks file: http://phil.freehackers.org/pretty-make/index.html I think it's mostly aesthetics, but some people claim that using different colors for different build steps makes it easier to monitor the progress of the build. For example, if the link or install steps are a different color than the configuration or compile steps, you can see that the build is in its final stages even if you're on the other side of the room. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 05:15:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB36106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ED08FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0N4HWEg012421 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:17:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:17:32 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201101230417.p0N4HWQa012420@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: help requested in fixing disk label mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:15:39 -0000 A couple of days ago, I reorganized the internal hard drive of my machine to reclaim space that used to be occupied by another operating system for use with my now exclusively FreeBSD system. I used a stand-alone partition manager to edit the slices down to just two slices. I then attempted to bsdlabel the first slice, but made a bit of a slip. When I should have typed bsdlabel -w ad0s1 I actually typed bsdlabel -w da0s1 Oops. I went ahead with the work on the internal drive (ad0), and the system is up and running fine. Now I'd like to try to fix the damage done to the external drive that I relabeled by mistake. That drive's layout before the damage was done was a single slice, divided into two partitions (da0s1 and da0s2), each of which was then glabel'ed. The moment I rewrote the bsdlabel for the first slice by mistake, the two partitions' entries in /dev/label vanished, of course. I checked and discovered that the only external drive for which I had not kept backup copies of the bsdlabel information was that drive. :-( Fortunately, the full backups of the file systems that I needed to reload onto the internal drive were in the first partition of the external drive in question (used to be s1d, now s1a for the time being), so by mounting /dev/da0s1a I still had full access to the file system containing the backups. My hypothesis is if I can somehow rewrite a correct bsdlabel for the affected slice, that the system will then recognize the glabel metadata for the two partitions immediately, and the /dev/label entries will appear right away like magic. Unfortunately, without a backup file of the bsdlabel information, I'm unsure how to accomplish that. Is there some way that I can discover the exact size in sectors of the first partition, so that I could edit the bsdlabel information and redefine it as two partitions of the correct sizes and offsets? Is there some field in dumpfs(8) output that would give me what I need (allowing, of course, for the fact that the first partition is actually one sector longer than anything dumpfs(8) would know about due to the glabel metadata in the final sector of the partition)? Or is my hypothesis stated above actually incorrect, and if so, why/how? PLEASE send any replies to ME DIRECTLY (or at least Cc: me directly) because I receive this list in digest form and am at least a week and a half behind on my reading. :-} Thanks much in advance for any helpful ideas. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 05:20:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7971B106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F5C8FC14 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0N4M1IO012455 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:22:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:22:01 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201101230422.p0N4M14G012454@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help requested in fixing disk label mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:20:10 -0000 I just wrote: > A couple of days ago, I reorganized the internal hard drive of my machine >to reclaim space that used to be occupied by another operating system for use >with my now exclusively FreeBSD system. I used a stand-alone partition manager >to edit the slices down to just two slices. I then attempted to bsdlabel the >first slice, but made a bit of a slip. When I should have typed > > bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > >I actually typed > > bsdlabel -w da0s1 > >Oops. > I went ahead with the work on the internal drive (ad0), and the system >is up and running fine. Now I'd like to try to fix the damage done to the >external drive that I relabeled by mistake. That drive's layout before the >damage was done was a single slice, divided into two partitions (da0s1 and ^^^^^ >da0s2), each of which was then glabel'ed. The moment I rewrote the bsdlabel ^^^^^ Yet another pair of mistakes on my part. Those should have said da0s1d and da0s1e. Sorry for any confusion. >for the first slice by mistake, the two partitions' entries in /dev/label >vanished, of course. I checked and discovered that the only external drive >for which I had not kept backup copies of the bsdlabel information was that >drive. :-( Fortunately, the full backups of the file systems that I needed >to reload onto the internal drive were in the first partition of the external >drive in question (used to be s1d, now s1a for the time being), so by mounting >/dev/da0s1a I still had full access to the file system containing the backups. > My hypothesis is if I can somehow rewrite a correct bsdlabel for the >affected slice, that the system will then recognize the glabel metadata for >the two partitions immediately, and the /dev/label entries will appear right >away like magic. Unfortunately, without a backup file of the bsdlabel >information, I'm unsure how to accomplish that. Is there some way that I can >discover the exact size in sectors of the first partition, so that I could >edit the bsdlabel information and redefine it as two partitions of the correct >sizes and offsets? Is there some field in dumpfs(8) output that would give me >what I need (allowing, of course, for the fact that the first partition >is actually one sector longer than anything dumpfs(8) would know about due to >the glabel metadata in the final sector of the partition)? Or is my hypothesis >stated above actually incorrect, and if so, why/how? > PLEASE send any replies to ME DIRECTLY (or at least Cc: me directly) >because I receive this list in digest form and am at least a week and a half >behind on my reading. :-} Thanks much in advance for any helpful ideas. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 05:31:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CAB1065670 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422A98FC0C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C325C44 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:39:00 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3BBC8B.9040906@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:28:43 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Configuration of Ath0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:31:57 -0000 On 01/23/11 10:38, Hubert Chadaj wrote: > Hello, > > I have a Wireless card with Atherneros chipset, a have problem with > runing wlan on mode N? > Can you halp me? > > I done instalation of that with that how to: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html, and It > works on moge G. > Have you got an N access point? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 05:34:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981B1106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F08F8FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121015C44 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:41:57 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3BBD3C.8070007@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: follow up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:34:54 -0000 On 01/23/11 11:37, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:25:05AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >> On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote: >> >>> something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for >>> days i seem to be getting "spammed" with multiple copies of some mail. >>> these dup mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to. Just strange that >>> this mail bug happened at the same time that my bind troubles began. >>> >> Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get >> multiples of those even if others are replying to replied posts. >> > More specifically, I think it's because people tend to group-reply rather > than list-reply. > > Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 05:50:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B977106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ranceh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7888FC16 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so1346533vws.13 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:50:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VlBHRSlniR+iJzt4RWpLp98J/mVMp3RZ+3VO4vtMSZA=; b=ON9XfXtkOLo5yYm4WSdmNrQELvgJ5X6WaUisvpQjiHEYCY7RnGo+PIhGsTd+Ug9TBn sOcApYr2Fk5p50LzZwCQUM1tTu8Jg7grZzDHUKcBNHEYZ6IcBiFfcjkMN5aUG6DlGfZH UcVhS+55yHPvi6fb0rjf8qZej31PzNE4qRSxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hxK/atRzaq1hyeWHBBJUIPogGLQW260NTmHsDU96+x4eqhX/reNuWIMWnNbwf//ekR woswj/w/ziyn2IEmTx35iN3VOkNsCnnQB1KCbS9oUYAdcjOz8R1LB7+2e/xluWESTrNu vHRfBxgtFgy5n+l+hOoe3Yr4TvikxlTZ5JVHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.178.137 with SMTP id bm9mr785861vcb.98.1295760161413; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.49.68 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:22:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:22:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: Rance Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Networking problem running inside Virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:50:20 -0000 I'm trying to track down a problem that seems to have been introduced after FreeBSD 8.0. I'm trying to install FreeBSD inside a virtualbox guest whose host is a Win7 64bit box running Vbox 4.0.2 PC-BSD based on FreeBSD 8.0 works fine. But FreeBSD 8.1 does not. Here is what "does not work" means in my case. Depending on the specific network adapter emulated in Vbox for FreeBSD I get the following: PC-Net II (works) PC-Net III (no dhcp address setup) Intel Pro/1000 MT Desktop (dhcp works, but network stack somehow does not. No network connectivity after dhcp assignment.) Intel Pro/1000 T Server (same as MT Desktop) Intel Pro/1000 MT Server (same as MT Desktop) I posted this question on the virutalbox mailing list and got a reply from someone else who is tracking the same issue I am, but neither of us have an answer. Because FreeBSD 8.0 works no matter what ethernet card is simulated and because PC-Net II still does work in 8.1, I suspect that FreeBSD is the culprit, but I can't prove it. All my other OSes work fine its just FreeBSD that gives me fits. I'm willing to make this problem report better, but I don't really understand how to debug this in the vm container. What information would be helpful? Rance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 06:06:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AD6106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FDA8FC0C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970AC5C44 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:13:47 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3BC4B2.7070409@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:03:30 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110123040041.GA7871@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110123040041.GA7871@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bind97 from /bar/log/messages.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:06:45 -0000 On 01/23/11 14:00, Gary Kline wrote: > Can anybody spot what's messed up here and help me get back up? > > > From earlier errors I added and then removed an "A" address label > before the "IN NS ns1.thought.org" ... That was the only thing I > could think of, and things still failed. > > HEre is the apropos part of the log: > > Sometimes you just get to the point where you just want a straight-forward answer to things because you've had enough :) I'm there now myself, so I can relate. So... 1. Are you sure named (bind9.x's executable) is not already running? Usually if it is already running you would incant rndc reload. 2. You need an address record for named server host- ns1.thought.org. So you need in your zone file (this is taking a bit of remembering now- been a while since I had to edit mine... :) ): NS ns1.thought.org. ; don't forget the period at the end A ; OPTIONAL: this will allow users to just enter domain and go straight to the web server. You can also simply CNAME hosts with the same address. $ORIGIN thought.org. ; saves you typing - now just type in the hosts and domain will be auto added (again don't forget the period) ns1 A That should get you out of trouble. The optional stuff makes it easier for your users, and for you to maintain. Don't forget to increment your serial :) Now, I think you should be checking your mail server.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 06:59:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D231F106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8AA8FC12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0N6wqWK081356; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:59:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4D3BD1AB.7030205@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:58:51 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101213 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101230407.p0N47jkc026104@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101230407.p0N47jkc026104@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kline@ns1.thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:59:16 -0000 2011-01-23 05:07, Robert Bonomi: >> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:25:01 +0100 >> From: Bernt Hansson >> Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... >> >> thought.org does not resolve: > > 'irrelevant, and immaterial'. > >> %telnet thought.org >> thought.org: hostname nor servname provided, or not known > > 'thought.org' does _not_ need to resolve. it is a 'domain-name', not a 'host'. If you want access to that host it must resolve. > 'r-bonomi.com' doesn't resolve either. but hosts _under_ that domain do. Yes? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 07:22:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E5F106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF018FC0C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6365C44 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:29:54 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3BD689.80805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:19:37 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: My Asterisk server is trying to drive me insane X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:22:51 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 8.1 pf firewall, and a FreeBSD 8.1 system running Asterisk 1.8. I have been hammering at this for a few weeks now with little forward progress. I'm about to go nuts trying to figure out what the hell is going on. I have set up asterisk to trunk to my provider, and originally I couldn't get incoming calls working but I could ring out- I'm happy to report I can now receive incoming calls, but annoyingly now I can't ring out! In order to get incoming calls I had to upgrade from asterisk 1.4 - 1.8 and change my firewall settings: $voip = asterisk server $nodephone = provider server $voip_tcp = 5060 $voip_udp = { 5060, 4569, 5036, 2727 } nat on $ext_if inet proto { tcp, udp } from any port $voip_tcp to any -> ($ext_if) port $voip_tcp rdr on $ext_if inet proto { tcp, udp } from any to ($ext_if) port $voip_tcp -> $voip port $voip_tcp rdr on $ext_if inet proto { tcp, udp } from $voip port $voip_tcp to any port $voip_tcp -> ($ext_if) port $voip_tcp block log (all, log) block in quick on $ext_if from $no_route_ips to any block out quick on $ext_if from any to $no_route_ips pass in $log on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to $voip port $voip_tcp flags S/SA keep state pass in $log on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to $voip port $voip_udp keep state pass out $log on $int_if inet proto udp from any port $voip_udp to $voip port $voip_udp keep state pass out $log on $int_if inet proto tcp from any port $voip_tcp to $voip port $voip_tcp flags S/SA keep state pass out $log on $ext_if from $localnet to any Everything appears to work, but the provider comes back with 200 and asterisk seems to do nothing and so it times out and errors with what it says is "circuit busy" from the provider. tcpdump from both m/c's shows traffic to and from the asterisk server and the provider on port 5060, but rtp traffic (port 20000+) between the provider and asterisk only when an incoming call comes in, and between asterisk and the client. Also in the invites from asterisk to the provider it says audio at port 5060. Am I missing something? I've tried the Asterisk list but I've gotten only one miniscule reply in nearly a weeks time, and my provider will not support Asterisk and won't say boo (mainly dependent on who you talk to at the time)- the only thing I get is its working their end (yay for them... :P). Incidentally, their only response (to any problems with the service: asterisk, ata's, whatever) is to "open up all ports between our server and your server/ata". Apparently they "automagically" get around nat issues so nat is not necessary. But my main issue with that is what happens if someone spoofs their ip address? Not to mention I want to host this service (not their trunk, but my services) so I need to be able to accept from more than just their server. They don't seem to be able to track the ports they're using. The only change I can tell is the upgrade to 1.8 and firewall settings that now allow me to receive calls- am I doomed to have only one or the other :( ? Any clues before I lose all my hair guys? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 09:38:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59057106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1308FC0A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 94F07E81B30; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:38:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:38:48 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <20110123093848.GA14567@thought.org> References: <20110122213300.GA96479@thought.org> <4D3B836D.9050409@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3B836D.9050409@bah.homeip.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:38:50 -0000 On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 02:25:01AM +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2011-01-22 22:33, Gary Kline: > > >first, i tried a telnet thought.org and it failed, but only by hanging. then > >i tried a telnet of ethic by its private ip. was refused instantly:: > > > >i cannot cut/paste in ctwm here on ethic, but it was > > > ># telnet 10.47.0.230 > >Trying ... > >telnet: connect to addr n.n.n.n: Connection refused > >telnet: Unable to connect to remotr host > > > >Does the "Connection refused" signify anything in the bind/dns world. ? > > No. It signify that n.n.n.n isn't listening on whatever port you try > to connect to. > > >BEfore i portupgraded to bind97 from bind9, this kind of stuff worked. > > Check your config. > > thought.org does not resolve: > > %telnet thought.org > thought.org: hostname nor servname provided, or not known > > ethic.thought.org DO resolve. Okay, FWIW,I did send this several hours ago. Or at least so I thought. I took a time-out to see if anybody had taken my clues [below, part of /var/log/messages' output from bind97.] When I checked about ten minutes ago, nothing. --maybe i deleted it, maybe I mistyped the alias and it went to a friend. Whatever. At any ratem what I have showed the failure of bind to load properly. I _did_ add an addr ["A"] record to ns1.thought.org, but named was still unhappy. There is also the problem of the "managed-key-zone" [?] In /etc/namedb/ I have a short rndc.key file. But nothing in named.conf. +++ Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: starting BIND 9.7.2-P3 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: built with '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn' '--enable-threads' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS= -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: NS 'ns1.thought.org' has no address records (A or AAAA) Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: not loaded due to errors. Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/internal: loading from master file 3bed2cb3a3acf7b6a8ef408420cc682d5520e26976d354254f528c965612054f.mkeys failed: file not found Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/external: loading from master file 3c4623849a49a53911c4a3e48d8cead8a1858960bccdea7a1b978d73ec2f06d7.mkeys failed: file not found Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: running +++ Anybody know what's going on with the [A or AAAA] records and the missing 'managed key zone' file? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 10:17:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99666106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 068778FC0A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jan 2011 10:17:09 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-074-054-165.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni) [88.74.54.165] by mail.gmx.net (mp044) with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 11:17:09 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+c4FtDCG6c5E2tVju7xJ7OWdeqjzkNaCtLUvYTlC wJd3AeL1bH0/cI Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:16:11 +0100 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110123111611.fc13d9f7.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110122203329.ebeafb8b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110122194718.3e625aae.jan0sch@gmx.net> <20110122203329.ebeafb8b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_11_16_11_+0100_NaTiQCEswrbV1wUv" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Burning a DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:17:12 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_11_16_11_+0100_NaTiQCEswrbV1wUv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:33:29 +0100 Polytropon wrote: P> And HERE is the mistake: You need to specify the /dev/cd0 P> device which gets accessed by the ATAPICAM facility. The P> /dev/acd0 device does not understand SCSI commands. do'h. :-) Thanks for pointing out. It works now. Regards, Jens --=20 23. Hartung 2011, 11:14 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de The following statement is not true. The previous statement is true. --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_11_16_11_+0100_NaTiQCEswrbV1wUv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJNPAAjAAoJED2+SXzzbciGdS8NAJGIo0lcKXLI9uMrRtNwAEl7 1FCUJZ0Uq3N97gWjjJvNG2qAJNSWLk0uKS2YHMBy2+UjzxUmjn+r8D1RD5y90vIK RzDvmAl9bsZJybIrPCj+PwZwZd5QXao2iUqfpzRIo1cH+BSf3bPCw6EXPn72/Gnu G4gbBOUuvhtafkeObvNCtRQRJLWGJxxxFaU7/v2f8gvQBbq12CmPyjScCWfcKk0U Hn473bETCm3qA1HEqQtJ0I0P/fGLp7XacIETGj14TEINQko89562yvNrjYe/aGLb WtKo3G08yp35bJAj8MwFcn9zqgq85QmEmi0zjSXkuNwiPO91IdWf7zdv2SEb3XMt 9Zilu1dhhpF1sL1d+rBXIrBC05vOHedF0Dw+HVLPYkuCaRkfisPosVQ3U3eJjNya aLo0U2mPRCI+SItssXT8kXxpR7Es/n4sYlQhhkYOz0eM1SQAXNv4F8LIVg1PP0IE QfRtobj3ogdOT5kK5QqHA6ZWsyNzXkkFeQv7KuVg3Qni1RaU56Bqcj9Cb3y3Yioe qjY1mV6G52ViQIuSte0s =ZFM8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_11_16_11_+0100_NaTiQCEswrbV1wUv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 11:18:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718FB106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223AB8FC0A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie19 with SMTP id 19so1036700yie.13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.38.4 with SMTP id l4mr1978915anl.140.1295781521182; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10sm14469229anh.32.2011.01.23.03.18.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 03:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDC09E54809 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:18:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:18:37 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110123061837.361c6c6a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4D3BBD3C.8070007@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> <4D3BBD3C.8070007@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: follow up... 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Red Adair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 11:33:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1B9106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BD28FC12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0NBfSrf029940; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:41:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:41:28 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101231141.p0NBfSrf029940@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bernt@bah.homeip.net, bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com In-Reply-To: <4D3BD1AB.7030205@bah.homeip.net> Cc: kline@ns1.thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:33:51 -0000 > From bernt@bah.homeip.net Sun Jan 23 01:07:14 2011 > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:58:51 +0100 > From: Bernt Hansson > To: Robert Bonomi > CC: kline@ns1.thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, but.... > > 2011-01-23 05:07, Robert Bonomi: > >> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:25:01 +0100 From: Bernt > >> Hansson Subject: Re: lightbulb? prob'ly not, > >> but.... > >> > >> thought.org does not resolve: > > > > 'irrelevant, and immaterial'. > > > >> %telnet thought.org > >> thought.org: hostname nor servname provided, or not known > > > > 'thought.org' does _not_ need to resolve. it is a 'domain-name', not a > > 'host'. > > If you want access to that host it must resolve. > > > 'r-bonomi.com' doesn't resolve either. but hosts _under_ that domain > > do. > > Yes? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 13:12:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE2B106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ali64iust@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177828FC12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so3252634iyb.13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:12:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dNAOpRsEkH0sRndJs/wgHtnfKFaYfBAZjiIZigNoyHE=; b=O3bW7f+IZllWA+CGDPF7HygagZRcVIoknqexlgy4oaJ1U86YDdb7tkEl7dKDps70qT TYLpOroWAEQDcMzrQb+gSRWPX2Li6iY+oqAmFEF+GYdiwfdA/3QndPDxkawHRd+/SMUx ZxZmvbeySUoZAltwQHb78kN0FFMF/OlPTi9ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TENP2TM2x0Mipa0ZmIAB7+0N/lAwEds5u0pPvnsMW/r8nMwhY/t3CaSamlgJofFsQ7 pplPVyEL60vD/ycCbaJLcmTKEFUoSNZy1mCxJd7PeAAPZyS2uHZYwUDY++dw8MLtvw1W To6Jcsz7TVlm2CzQWuDZaNsGsGTc/L8HD3/U8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.177.6 with SMTP id bg6mr3406105icb.173.1295786649628; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.178.74 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:44:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:14:09 +0330 Message-ID: From: alireza imani To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: how can i use 1)des.h 2)socket in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:12:49 -0000 hello dear i have some question about freebsd. how can i use des.h methods in kernel mode? and how can i use socket in kernel mode? can you give me some source code about this or help me? thanks a lot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 13:58:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D63F106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail929c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail929c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1178FC12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:58:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from blacky.norwickhouse.net (174-124-35-119.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.35.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail929c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0NDwKV8027810 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:58:21 GMT Message-ID: <4D3C33FC.8080804@centurytel.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:58:20 -0600 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100629 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201101230422.p0N4MtRo026181@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101230422.p0N4MtRo026181@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=E3YmrImrbVzCsewRu2LD0J6o5AgjjaGC6gFBqrQdipw= c=1 sm=1 a=Futu29cXXscA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1kf9EuSGpTLFoLf9O9aMsA==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=dynt39AsAAAA:8 a=rpjR8HG_wTME9VHisZcA:9 a=esbvRm6GPQAT_sCOG0kA:7 a=FIpe46_ew7mFiWqFFx5AR7a7t9oA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=Jw29t_AgHPoA:10 a=1kf9EuSGpTLFoLf9O9aMsA==:117 Subject: Re: Colorized compiler/linker messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:58:24 -0000 On 01/22/2011 22:22, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 22 20:10:21 2011 >> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:00:52 -0600 >> From: "Michael D. Norwick" >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Colorized compiler/linker messages >> >> Good Day, >> >> I have seen this for some time when building ports and was wondering how >> it was done. GCC when compiling and linking certain programs, ebook for >> example, emits messages in various colors. How is that done? >> > "Whatever it is" that is writing the messages is putting out 'terminal > control' character strings that specify the color. > > >> Where does >> one find what the various colors are supposed to signify? >> > Read the _complete_ documentation for 'whatever it is' that is producing > the messages. The colors signify 'whatever it is' that the author of that > software chose to represent with that color. There are *NO* "universal > standards" for such things. > > >> Or, is it just >> because it's more appealing? >> > (A) "appealing" is in the eye of the beholder. > (B) *why* 'somebody' did something/anything is known *only* to the party > that actually _did_ it. You can ether ask *them* or get uninformed > speculation from third parties. > > In broad, diagsnotic messages can be divided into a minimum of 4 'classes' > (finer gradation is always possible): > diagnostic -- 'gory details' of what the program is doing internally, to > find out where what it is actually doing is different from what one > 'expects' it to be doing. > informational -- things you might 'want to know about', but do not > indicate potentially incorrect operation. > warning -- things which *probably* indicate a problem, but might be > 'as intended' > error -- something which is, without question, incorrect, and prevents > proper program operation. > > > A developer -might- use different colors for different 'classes' of messages, > so that an experienced user of that program (who 'knows' what color is used > for what) can tell 'at a glance' the serverity of the thing being reported. > [ see (B), above, as regards applicability to -your- situationn ] > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Sounds like you had a bad day yesterday. I'm sorry, I will try to scan any further e-mails for the appropriate intelligence. Isn't that why it's called FreeBSD-questions and not abuse@freebsd.org? And, yes, I read the docs. Thank You, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 14:10:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD8C106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68AA8FC0A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTLAPTOP) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph0e4-0008yH-Qk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:10:20 -0500 Message-ID: <7186153209294859990C5839A572C20F@GRANTLAPTOP> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:10:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Subject: Logrotate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:10:22 -0000 Hi all, Not sure if there is a better list to ask this, so here goes. I use logrotate to rotate the apache log files within each domains log directory. They are in the home directory as such: /home/domain1.com/logs/access_log /home/domain2.com/logs/access_log /home/domain3.com/logs/access_log ... In the home directory, I also have symlinks that point to specific domain directories, example cd /home domain1.ca -> domain1.com domain1.net -> domain1.com domain1.org -> domain1.com someothername.com -> domain1.com ... All this have beein said, when I use logrotate, it rotates the logs within the directories that have sym links pointing to them over and over again. In the case of domain1.com, the log would be rotated 5 times. I am using a logrotate.conf container that looks like so: # more logrotate.conf ... /home/*/logs/access_log { missingok rotate 14 daily create 644 root } ... So, obviously because I am using a wildcard within the container logrotate is going through the symlinks and rotating the logs over and over. Is there a way or method to ignore the symlinks (or a workaround) that anyone knows of, other than making a logrotate.conf container for each individal directory. Thanks all, -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 14:20:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97DE106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2FC8FC0C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so1841985qyk.13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:20:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=89zvi9OnMdOAcUYaLE12dwNt7+wPYfptJI+Vhv5tdNk=; b=DfAY8Z1M3mpcMVF0XLecK8Ne/oIfa2kPju40SQv1i+k41J1qnQhoqxEewcKkNMA7bN L7aYwCwe6e65ftMuP1bggbThOtF8AWgo4+zoMlxtPECu84KMEY/Pa7feCaHHF0gXctVT ovhsViCtji7kuCSRTP1EdJdGl1wn135/ymYXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gKiePRIfmbYBdkCpP2ALkJwbecM3Utxl2/FTeAYtHqXOqD0RrHkIQULmpbP6HB2RUb Fr0r7NEMiAewAkse8NKwRQxkdRUxFS7V9BEY+gyyoua28oQUbJTBErjlQ226pTt0lE3q KEoxvtmaZWFEceXYxNzrv/ywYCLHKOku4/+Ck= Received: by 10.224.74.83 with SMTP id t19mr2958179qaj.285.1295792455629; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:20:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.175.141 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:20:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> From: Paul B Mahol Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:20:35 +0100 Message-ID: To: John Levine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:20:57 -0000 On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:38 AM, John Levine wrote: > My Lenovo laptop running 8.1 has two ordinary Intel network adapters, > a wired PRO/1000 with the em driver and a WiFi PRO/Wireless 5300 with > the iwn driver. =A0They work fine, but for either one if I use ifconfig > to change the MAC address, the adapter won't actually work until I > change the address back to the native one. =A0Typical symptoms are > endless DHCP queries with no response. > > Is this a known problem? =A0As far as I know, it's supposed to work. How you change MAC address? With "ether" command? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 14:38:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 7A7B71065670; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:38:56 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110123143856.GA31687@freebsd.org> References: <20110105012434.GA8563@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110105012434.GA8563@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: /usr/local/man/man1 wiped out X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:38:56 -0000 On Wed Jan 5 11, Alexander Best wrote: > hi there, > > i'm not sure what happend here. i updated a few ports the other day using > 'portupgrade -a'. nothing special really. today however i notice some manual > pages like gcc46 are missing. so i checked the contents of /usr/local/man/man1 > and this is what i found: i was finally able to figure out the reason. the latest clang version (svn snapshot) was responsible for it. the uninstall target completely removes /usr/local/man/man1 for some reason. i sent a message to cfe-dev@cs.uiuc.edu and hopefully they're going to fix this. cheers. alex > > total 1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 4 Jan 14:00 . > drwxr-xr-x 39 root wheel 1024 3 Jan 03:27 .. > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2075 4 Jan 13:59 ImageMagick.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1304 4 Jan 13:59 Magick++-config.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 671 4 Jan 13:59 Magick-config.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 674 4 Jan 13:59 MagickCore-config.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 679 4 Jan 13:59 MagickWand-config.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 674 4 Jan 13:59 Wand-config.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1999 4 Jan 13:59 animate.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1852 4 Jan 14:00 bdftopcf.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1538 4 Jan 13:59 compare.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2200 4 Jan 13:59 composite.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 895 4 Jan 13:59 conjure.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4587 4 Jan 13:59 convert.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2661 4 Jan 13:59 display.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1656 4 Jan 13:59 identify.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2105 4 Jan 13:59 import.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4665 4 Jan 13:59 mogrify.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2562 4 Jan 13:59 montage.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2129 4 Jan 04:06 portaudit.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1357 4 Jan 13:59 stream.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2431 3 Jan 03:39 xdg-desktop-icon.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4345 3 Jan 03:39 xdg-desktop-menu.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1790 3 Jan 03:39 xdg-email.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2512 3 Jan 03:39 xdg-icon-resource.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2509 3 Jan 03:39 xdg-mime.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 951 3 Jan 03:39 xdg-open.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1326 3 Jan 03:39 xdg-screensaver.1.gz > > i have over 500 ports installed and now every manual page which was installed > before running 'portupgrade -a' has been wiped out. :( > > can the following have caused some kind of problems? > > otaku% file /usr/local/share/man > /usr/local/share/man: symbolic link to `../man' > otaku% file /usr/local/man > /usr/local/man: directory > > manual pages in other directories, like /usr/local/man/man8 don't seem to have > been scrubbed. only the section 1 manuals. > > cheers. > alex > > -- > a13x -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 14:47:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793C91065672 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0997c54d95=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEEB8FC13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43118 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2011 14:47:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=a86d.4d3c3f69.k1101; i=johnl@submit.iecc.com; bh=dqoMVPzk85Y9/5/GPhLtiVATok0jcyeHQEbE6d+S9LY=; b=TvTQZnxm4yE9Hq4fUfe82nYceWsorIgoQyeFRTl/RcmS52zDEzxj8v8S5xzRLyhG5mprouMlyKnDNmLYMaxxqQ8oAarvgZcOPzYWVCLauKiKD9h6uqnymxnPSk9oYZ0TulMWRE1wzqgBGkrG5gGH1dBIqJ6F6Qbc+Fog3Bee4I4= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd johnl@64.57.183.62) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 14:46:42 -0000 Date: 23 Jan 2011 09:47:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Paul B Mahol" In-Reply-To: References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3825401791-867889017-1295794024=:93018" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:47:06 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3825401791-867889017-1295794024=:93018 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE >> Is this a known problem? =C2=A0As far as I know, it's supposed to work. > > How you change MAC address? With "ether" command? # ifconfig em0 ether 01:17:a4:8f:04:5d Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummi= es", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly --3825401791-867889017-1295794024=:93018-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 15:00:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB591065673 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDDD8FC2A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0NF0RlE074909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:00:27 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p0NF0RlE074909 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1295794827; bh=hk+Hd0cToMeM6OEgoQ41gUqzl++tj8YZR83W2ZBZGFU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D3C4284.6010506@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2023=20Jan=202011=2015:00:20=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Grant=20Peel=20|CC:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Logrotate|References:=20<71861532 09294859990C5839A572C20F@GRANTLAPTOP>|In-Reply-To:=20<718615320929 4859990C5839A572C20F@GRANTLAPTOP>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|Open PGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg= 3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D =0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigD0087EEBB9472B65245A9630"; b=kX+HgalX8G+g2lwzkgvasCsqyx6pAG55lH+xjFAp1D+DV15er0dSR+otNr5Kolxzq fI6Vebk0JV8HnhZS/7dH2G3zNTIq7oOpmi+OiZznd31fbkR0KTMeTjK/OYef4UY2F7 +EFnlhekCy3sigKSSTsr+yM4X1z0rJqJ8p8eiDbY= Message-ID: <4D3C4284.6010506@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:00:20 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <7186153209294859990C5839A572C20F@GRANTLAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <7186153209294859990C5839A572C20F@GRANTLAPTOP> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD0087EEBB9472B65245A9630" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logrotate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:00:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD0087EEBB9472B65245A9630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/01/2011 14:10, Grant Peel wrote: > Is there a way or method to ignore the symlinks (or a workaround) that > anyone knows of, other than making a logrotate.conf container for each > individal directory. Use something other than logrotate? Three possibilities: * rotatelogs This is a utility that comes with Apache. To use it, you need to modify your apache config to change the logging directives. Instead of (eg.) CustomLog "/var/log/httpd-access.log" common You'ld use: CustomLog "|/usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs \ /var/log/httpd-access.log 86400" common which will generate a new log file every day at midnight, labelled by the date as the standard seconds-since-the-epoch unit time. (Other time formats can be applied) * cronolog -- in ports as sysutils/cronolog This is rotatelogs on steroids -- it lets you use strftime(3) format codes to build the path and/or filename the logfile is saved as, so you could have a scheme giving paths like: /var/logs/apache22/2011/01/23/virtual-host-name/access_log [One advantage of rotatelogs or cronolog for busy sites -- you get log file rotation without any requirement to restart apache at all. One disadvantage: neither of these programs *delete* over-aged log files. You'll need to write a very small cron job to do that bit.] * newsyslog -- part of the base system. You can use wildcards to match a range of different file names. If you rotate the logs based on age or size, it /should/ only do one cycle per invocation. (Not tested -- so may be completely bogus). Something like: /home/*/logs/access_log 644 14 * 24 GJ /var/run/httpd.pid 30 added to /etc/newsyslog.conf should get you log files rotated once every 24h with two weeks worth kept on hand. Otherwise, you could rearrange your directory structure to give you a unique path distinguishable by globbing. So, instead of having: /home/domain1.com as the real directory and sym-linking domain1.net -> domain1.com domain1.org -> domain1.com Make the directory be: /home/_domain1/ and create symlinks: domain1.com -> _domain1 domain1.net -> _domain1 domain1.org -> _domain1 Then you can wildcard as '/home/_*/logs/access_log' [Note '_' was chosen because that character is specifically disallowed in host / domain names: it's guaranteed not to accidentally collide] Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD0087EEBB9472B65245A9630 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk08QooACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzGwwCghuhZoU1ZuTMD1eOYgHAuUH+C uPwAn1RMlw3fL8Qpe69wrL9X5s1/aZid =MPBe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD0087EEBB9472B65245A9630-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 15:26:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CD71065695 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFA98FC0C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so3112976qwj.13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:26:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xgNSQo8kuqqrYJcjDhiF0Xjihfbk9SFLZJLX4a0pVro=; b=S8gMDTni/LhWBSjdOJmbPbOItfVeOshlo8GbTcywSf2B3TYIkQ+MTjG84Ya86KgfD8 OfE4wclVgtJsQYi1wtMOgILz4yplTTM3XVYN0bgDIO7J2T7Kmq+pdCTi05NCDc7RMRzn xqKX2NFVAOYf24AEZ6lVJcnjUkccfe07aPjwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WUPga4bbXqCXACosjw+OuHaoi4lKh2IpUQ4J86rQuYzbiOKtRKAaDOhUyPMnF+ya8s EFg8EzYX63SXnOQMKIGchdGp9bUxmLihAj7tv1afq6ouv7h0v75Cv42s2lC/Z204XvMi BC2PNRIpJ7Aik9be8IrNWiRy7uOQ6L1ro0/xw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.209 with SMTP id c17mr3020353qab.266.1295796365798; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:26:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:56:05 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: ATI Radeon 4350 Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:26:07 -0000 Hi FreeBSD people all over the world, I've installed FreeBSD 8.1 on a system which has ATI Radeon 4350 (I tried both 32bit and 64bit architectures, in both situations the problem persists). After enabling HALD and DBUS my system runs X Window System (GNOME, ...) very well without any problem or instability. But when I exit the X Window System to the TCSH (e.g. through the System>Logout in GNOME), my system suddenly reboots when I try to get into the X Window System again. During a single bootup, my system can start the X Window System only once and just reboots (not a proper reboot/one of these sudden without-saving-anything/without-syncing-disks boots). As the system runs (that single time) X Window System properly without any problems I do not think there is a driver problem. What should I do? I think it needs one of these compile-your-kernel-again-with-this-little-option tricks!!! Has anyone managed to get ATI 4350 working on 8.1-RELEASE? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 16:53:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9C1106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F0B88FC15 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jan 2011 16:53:15 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-074-054-165.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni) [88.74.54.165] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 17:53:15 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+JjalCVjmJfbKIZLSlrniO1YtTtcN98TTiq47nvQ H1lcVErAe4qq2s Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:52:56 +0100 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110123175256.db21ca34.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_17_52_56_+0100_SiYruE9EXHh=Mao." X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: ATI Radeon 4350 Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:53:18 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_17_52_56_+0100_SiYruE9EXHh=Mao. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I had similar problems wiht my ATI 3450 card and in addition to that random freezes of X. After building the driver directly from the source (stable branch) the problems where gone. http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo Regards, Jens --=20 23. Hartung 2011, 17:51 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de Two can Live as Cheaply as One for Half as Long. -- Howard Kandel --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_17_52_56_+0100_SiYruE9EXHh=Mao. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJNPFz5AAoJED2+SXzzbciGDQUNAIV19ZTm0ZOia5BDKNkPNHBo SR0oBOG5RRNBxyYvcuPEZpoSihyWX1HpoZ0OU5p3piMhSEfjOUqrzSdc7i+13AOb QUJSf4f/0C6fe8wtiFuqdmQbGlqJw1lJnZd+Bm7vr2AI942yLZt35ZZJaw9gPqlB VF6ngvDykPuZXipdqIUu/BzeE4qE8TdEcArRI460WQalIZuVqqtYEuPczk7eyLeZ JLdTJjv1ph1fO7NMwhx51MjH1PzpZDm9mFx8KJVOF2gRgb1+p0HbKNV395JPDieV zI9Is0hqhBNpTmb9UMXfcEpFXJDxcaFpzsjcVd4LzkaPbeIlB1BJWYtHE8oacE5V T6pqKHYV42gqeyYdD0by3uhfjJ3wVz5JVyQPpNDrDHDwXTETgRgXRthV6jZEehuJ YrZmgo3bbXXEE+fTOJt4B9If+8wU6msfaZSQAjK5Fdw69+EMsNxitmkhw+s1jwWB uNF/xaa97J3G6mgvA6gayEMHqBaEigj12JX/Au9WjuZ9DpgH76ArkJG2DtYPKyi9 435yXCQbCDFYSWYQiSOC =CExp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_17_52_56_+0100_SiYruE9EXHh=Mao.-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 17:11:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADA5106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04FD8FC0A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0NHBXcf041199; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:11:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0NHBXLw041196; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:11:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:11:33 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:11:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Duplicate mails (was Re: follow up...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:11:35 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jan 2011, Da Rock wrote: > On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote: >> something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for days >> i seem to be getting "spammed" with multiple copies of some mail. these dup >> mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to. Just strange that this mail bug >> happened at the same time that my bind troubles began. >> > Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get multiples of > those even if others are replying to replied posts. % man procmailex | less +/duplicate shows an effective way to filter out duplicates, if you use or can use mail/procmail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 17:16:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8701065697 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910B08FC1B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0NHG628041219; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:16:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0NHG65w041216; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:16:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:16:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Bahman Kahinpour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:16:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATI Radeon 4350 Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:16:07 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jan 2011, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > Hi FreeBSD people all over the world, > > I've installed FreeBSD 8.1 on a system which has ATI Radeon 4350 (I > tried both 32bit and 64bit architectures, in both situations the > problem persists). After enabling HALD and DBUS my system runs X > Window System (GNOME, ...) very well without any problem or > instability. But when I exit the X Window System to the TCSH (e.g. > through the System>Logout in GNOME), my system suddenly reboots when I > try to get into the X Window System again. > > During a single bootup, my system can start the X Window System only > once and just reboots (not a proper reboot/one of these sudden > without-saving-anything/without-syncing-disks boots). > > As the system runs (that single time) X Window System properly without > any problems I do not think there is a driver problem. What should I > do? I think it needs one of these > compile-your-kernel-again-with-this-little-option tricks!!! Has anyone > managed to get ATI 4350 working on 8.1-RELEASE? It should Just Work. Did you addeWITHOUT_NOUVEAU=yes to /etc/make.conf before installing xorg and xf86-video-ati? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 17:43:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32EB1065673 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814BA8FC14 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.104]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1762560D3 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.104]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36474-08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sagan.local (cpe-76-83-7-25.socal.res.rr.com [76.83.7.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AEA042560D2 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D3C68A2.5010804@networktest.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:58 -0800 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: portmaster upgrade of p5-IO-Socket-SSL fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:43:00 -0000 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 The command 'portmaster security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL' fails because the module is not found in any archive. I've pasted the error output below. The file /usr/ports/UPGRADING doesn't mention any problem with this module. Thanks in advance for clues on getting this upgrade to work. dn dnewman@merckx ~ 503$ sudo portmaster security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL ===>>> Currently installed version: p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.37 ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL ===>>> Gathering distinfo list for installed ports ===>>> Launching 'make checksum' for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL in background ===>>> Gathering dependency list for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL from ports ===>>> Initial dependency check complete for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL ===>>> Starting build for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== ===>>> All dependencies are up to date ===> Cleaning for p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.38 ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.37 => IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.37 => IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://ring.nict.go.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ring.nict.go.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: 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fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: 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access) => Attempting to fetch from http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://ring.nict.go.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ring.nict.go.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://ring.nict.go.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: 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Attempting to fetch from http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL <<<=== fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.37 => IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://ring.nict.go.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ring.nict.go.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ring.riken.jp/archives/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://backpan.cpan.org/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Operation timed out => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Attempting to fetch from http://cpan.nctu.edu.tw/modules/by-module/IO/. fetch: http://cpan.nctu.edu.tw/modules/by-module/IO/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/IO-Socket-SSL-1.38.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles// and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL. ===>>> make failed for security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command line: portmaster security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 17:46:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6CC10656A6 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellyremo@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1038FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:46:09 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; b=ZLYsZWAv6uvu96a9QE6L5Vazz7bClfcYxzU1K7AwM9RMlbabTvgO3zrgLEQ5BBMc/nX0h6Jd5Vvb H+Ncohx8uFQfmOxP/w3PuOWRxWyLuwmnCeUB4TWEfCx4NbigcGCH Received: from 172.29.247.244 (172.29.247.244 [172.29.247.244]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1295790443901234.3300990633544; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:47:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:47:23 -0800 From: kellyremo To: "FreeBSD" Message-ID: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Status: RO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:46:10 -0000 "to memory" means: mounting a ~2 GByte filesystem [ tmpfs?, or ramfs? ], and put the "/tmp" on it. [ e.g.: 4 GByte ram in the pc ]. what to write in the "/etc/fstab"? I would like to collect the [ answers too:P ]: Advantages: - Memory is way faster then HDD/SSD, so it could speed things up - "SSD amortization" is less Disadvantages: - Security? [ how to set this up to be secure? any clear howtos/links regarding it? :O ] Really thank you for any good help... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 18:12:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D718106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDDCD8FC12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jan 2011 18:12:40 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-074-054-165.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni) [88.74.54.165] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 19:12:40 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/q3ctEV67qIfK6shiPRjNDbpJkx7I+cRt3r72/7K m5ODzsLbjV8Pvi Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:12:23 +0100 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110123191223.f24430f8.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4D3C68A2.5010804@networktest.com> References: <4D3C68A2.5010804@networktest.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_19_12_23_+0100_r0O0Qh7eOi0Wy=LU" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: portmaster upgrade of p5-IO-Socket-SSL fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:12:43 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_19_12_23_+0100_r0O0Qh7eOi0Wy=LU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:58 -0800 David Newman wrote: DN> FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 DN>=20 DN> The command 'portmaster security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL' fails because the DN> module is not found in any archive. I've pasted the error output DN> below. I had this issue on 8.1-RELEASE amd64 but after round about a day the module showed up in the archives queried. Regards, Jens --=20 23. Hartung 2011, 19:11 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de That's one small step for a man; one giant leap for mankind. -- Neil Armstrong --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_19_12_23_+0100_r0O0Qh7eOi0Wy=LU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJNPG+WAAoJED2+SXzzbciG9PYNALTMY+SyXY4Qs8rd3q2MwU0Q dw3FdWpfeJY1xbbC7n/6daHnbGXoizwm7K9/AacRPjK4Yh9c68kZPWvcMqUn18U2 YW8kn8EuLivPfnE5+BaFk4A8lgu4SypW+2FjFI5xC39Bic/9XaE8Q3TqmcLFb9EQ 7iIyUzn8WqLRv0OWmYO5Kgy2wPa6qjA4svxcO4yMl31/z9wlYts3xUa4T/CJDBP3 ebCom8oqDuTT2O51kDFRX/JlgzdtSNzbu4T6myuLWzpf5yEuyFNBadND4UT/bfLy hPKvxUaTsTG0IVLJm/Q5YgzUma7yqjxvHhoRV4mRrI6K2s0srVpJ/u//f5R80TKa kIPdA+Ez8KFuOWWouA00eo8Yc5qYWVdil83d9VWY37NDtTirAesePQPeQ1hHGL9J b9ojeMWkxBmnasomJEIynghA/9VCNFVHEou5YJFYEL9Ejgx7xDlWiM5JmT1aiB84 Em+XD6bI0qSmRbZNCe6wGQVRohMHAQlFezxsKFLCQDFnLLxu/RwCAxIG8FS40kdb XKRHlZs6q49TeDt3g5gX =3uFs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__23_Jan_2011_19_12_23_+0100_r0O0Qh7eOi0Wy=LU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 19:12:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A26106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3015E8FC17 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:12:24 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-Sophos: Scanned and found clean X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [217.195.122.32] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.4c1) with XMIT id 6721996; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:12:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:13:23 +0100 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: putting "/tmp" to memory Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: Acu7MZqrBJ0WnrXNRV+E3AQkj744pQ== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "kellyremo" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.53.1/1.53.11.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: RE: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:12:25 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of kellyremo > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 14:47 > To: FreeBSD > Subject: putting "/tmp" to memory > Importance: High > > > "to memory" means: mounting a ~2 GByte filesystem [ tmpfs?, or ramfs? > ], and put the "/tmp" on it. [ e.g.: 4 GByte ram in the pc ]. what to > write in the "/etc/fstab"? > > I would like to collect the [ answers too:P ]: > > Advantages: > - Memory is way faster then HDD/SSD, so it could speed things up > - "SSD amortization" is less > > Disadvantages: > - Security? [ how to set this up to be secure? any clear howtos/links > regarding it? :O ] > > Really thank you for any good help... > In rc.conf: tmpmfs=3D"YES" tmpsize=3D"2G" tmpmfs_flags=3D"-S" That'll do it :) -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote relevant replies in correspondence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 19:56:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4D1106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8348F8FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:56:34 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [10.1.2.24] ([173.200.178.70]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LFH00LYLRD9OC70@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:55:58 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-23_07:2011-01-21, 2011-01-23, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101230085 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:55:57 -0800 Message-id: <51A6B79C-A031-4077-8C8D-0416E978D7E8@mac.com> References: To: alireza imani X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how can i use 1)des.h 2)socket in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:56:34 -0000 On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:44 AM, alireza imani wrote: > i have some question about freebsd. > how can i use des.h methods in kernel mode? > and how can i use socket in kernel mode? > > can you give me some source code about this or help me? "man 9 crypto" and "man 9 socket" describe kernel interfaces to crypto (including CRYPTO_DES_CBC & CRYPTO_3DES_CBC) and kernel-level sockets. However, if it's possible to do whatever it is that you want to do in userland rather than in the kernel, then you should avoid doing stuff inside the kernel unless you have compelling reasons. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 20:21:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEDD106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7518FC13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id z8DZ1f0041vXlb85B8M3w9; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:21:03 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id z8M11f00J1f6R9u3d8M2Aj; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:21:03 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:21:00 -0800 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:21:00 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20110123202100.GD27690@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:21:03 -0000 On Sun 23 Jan 2011 at 11:13:23 PST Terrence Koeman wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of kellyremo >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 14:47 >> To: FreeBSD >> Subject: putting "/tmp" to memory >> Importance: High >> >> >> "to memory" means: mounting a ~2 GByte filesystem [ tmpfs?, or ramfs? >> ], and put the "/tmp" on it. [ e.g.: 4 GByte ram in the pc ]. what to >> write in the "/etc/fstab"? >> >> I would like to collect the [ answers too:P ]: >> >> Advantages: >> - Memory is way faster then HDD/SSD, so it could speed things up >> - "SSD amortization" is less >> >> Disadvantages: >> - Security? [ how to set this up to be secure? any clear howtos/links >> regarding it? :O ] >> >> Really thank you for any good help... >> > >In rc.conf: > >tmpmfs="YES" >tmpsize="2G" >tmpmfs_flags="-S" > >That'll do it :) For other tmpmfs_flags, man mdmfs(8). My rc.conf, for example, has: tmpmfs_flags="-m 0 -o async, noatime -S -p 1777" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 20:23:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4B31065670 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0242E8FC0A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4854 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jan 2011 20:23:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 20:23:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=GvwN8IqEcEwDJsZ4e7UJA2eGkjUQrT56mrz+iN+T9qdz681WfN8Ke57Ddhx+OXL3yQ9QuZv6OJbfJnhPCoSXmotj8HJJ+XCO+xQ4OhcOdxWrfGboXid3RB1WqrI8JE/6; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph6TL-00087m-61 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:23:40 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:14:18 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:14:18 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110123201418.GA56598@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> <4D3BBD3C.8070007@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123061837.361c6c6a@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110123061837.361c6c6a@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: follow up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:23:41 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000 > Da Rock articulated: >=20 > > Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only > > get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts > > only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue= =20 > > receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts. >=20 > consensus >=20 > Meaning: > : a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is > shared by all the people in a group [singular] >=20 > OK, when was the vote on this issue taken? I must have been out of > town that week. You and me both. I loathe getting multiples of emails. I'm on the list, so I already get a copy. I have no problem doing a group reply by request when someone's not on the list or only gets digest mails, though, or getting duplicates as a side-effect of that -- again, *by request*. Just spamming people with duplicates all the time for no good reason is a mite annoying, though. If I was aware of a vote, I would have voted "list reply". --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk08jBoACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWnKACgkMDEELDfwSHW53iwjdehFI4n ZkIAoLPgP2siBMm+n3nQd/FLy7Mk99eu =DWU+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 20:33:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BAC1065673 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33BD48FC19 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21675 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jan 2011 20:33:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 20:33:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ciQzCwwhGb+oIhWm4YfB9nW4M6VH+9bH/pezqfhbeb3qs5WWoBk69AaKEX9s62FSEICAdEIUZfLB9DyVbxtRNKjv+EMBgpIv2r7qhhsftT89ZOfAwdf/fEZ8DGvQHIb/; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph6cZ-0001C0-MN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:33:12 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:23:50 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:23:50 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110123202350.GA56677@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: missing uwacom.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:33:13 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE, on a ThinkPad x60 tablet, there is an input-wacom package already installed. Unfortunately, it lacks probably the most important part of the package: the uwacom driver: # /usr/local/rc.d/wacom start Starting wacom. kldload: can't load /boot/modules/uwacom.ko: No such file or directory I brought up this same problem a few months ago on this list, but ultimately got no resolution, and set it aside for a while. It was not very critical at the time. I have more use for the laptop now, though, so I decided to try installing it from scratch again, and the exact same problem has arisen. There is simply no .ko file on the system for Wacom drivers at all. It occurred to me to try reinstalling the input-wacom package from ports, but unfortunately the port is identified as broken. Has anyone else gotten the uwacom.ko driver on their systems? If so, how? Are you using 8.1-RELEASE or something else? Is there a work-around for this problem? Google, thus far, has proven useless to me on this subject. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk08jlYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWs/ACeL8lvTJViwModXNahlgyCm3i5 VUwAoJh/4NG7si2JFom2YziZtCXP0IST =dwrW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 20:38:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEDA106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0507C8FC16 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph6i0-0000ko-HC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:38:49 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:38:48 -0800 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:38:48 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110123203848.GC58619@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> <4D3BBD3C.8070007@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123061837.361c6c6a@scorpio> <20110123201418.GA56598@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110123201418.GA56598@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: follow up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:38:54 -0000 --lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 23 January 2011: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000 > > Da Rock articulated: > >=20 > > > Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only > > > get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts > > > only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue= =20 > > > receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts. > >=20 > > consensus > >=20 > > Meaning: > > : a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is > > shared by all the people in a group [singular] > >=20 > > OK, when was the vote on this issue taken? I must have been out of > > town that week. >=20 > You and me both. I loathe getting multiples of emails. I'm on the list, > so I already get a copy. I have no problem doing a group reply by > request when someone's not on the list or only gets digest mails, though, > or getting duplicates as a side-effect of that -- again, *by request*. >=20 > Just spamming people with duplicates all the time for no good reason is a > mite annoying, though. If I was aware of a vote, I would have voted > "list reply". >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] +1 --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com --lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNPJHYAAoJEIpckszW26+RG+YH/jzFw2z7T0TXiBT7kowoFdvi 8u6Xt+GcSbnZue4ZDVvO4E7Z88ESW+CE0G9LCDT2316lv7d9heBvCwYjwbwocB68 cAkwmHF8vSyF05ZOs2Ixwhk0uHYPRz49EGrSLhSJt/Q2BHgdfTmI2yIDo4WfSzVu AuRo2JkxNI/xhm6NwvmwGdZj+I8BteYxohE8ccaSxj7bD6u+vDcJIlFU38SIqVUM N/mVExC+wofuegOWNwb4yh5xhrNOPExkNIj4qhE4Qzt5FhG8u1tqYdDLLdbpW+XU 2mSIAR5HTT8kYXWd/tuipOwCovrFWbTg+SzL5JCzPHoN6YXkF/DXpPkkYfsq5Os= =DcXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lCAWRPmW1mITcIfM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 21:04:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AFD106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E90F8FC1B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [81.218.219.122]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9233F5A83 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:46:45 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:04:10 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110123210410.GA5172@external.screwed.box> References: <20110123202350.GA56677@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110123202350.GA56677@guilt.hydra> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: missing uwacom.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:04:33 -0000 Como esta, FreeBSD? 2011/01/23 13:23:50 -0700 Chad Perrin => To FreeBSD Questions : CP> On a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE, on a ThinkPad x60 tablet, CP> there is an input-wacom package already installed. Unfortunately, it CP> lacks probably the most important part of the package: the uwacom driver: CP> CP> # /usr/local/rc.d/wacom start CP> Starting wacom. CP> kldload: can't load /boot/modules/uwacom.ko: No such file or CP> directory CP> CP> I brought up this same problem a few months ago on this list, but CP> ultimately got no resolution, and set it aside for a while. It was not CP> very critical at the time. I have more use for the laptop now, though, CP> so I decided to try installing it from scratch again, and the exact same CP> problem has arisen. There is simply no .ko file on the system for Wacom CP> drivers at all. CP> CP> It occurred to me to try reinstalling the input-wacom package from ports, CP> but unfortunately the port is identified as broken. CP> CP> Has anyone else gotten the uwacom.ko driver on their systems? If so, CP> how? Are you using 8.1-RELEASE or something else? Is there a CP> work-around for this problem? Google, thus far, has proven useless to me CP> on this subject. I used to drop my wacom problems here. Last time I've seen no uwacom.ko in /boot/modules was because of /boot was on a read-only mounted volume. Aother kind of my problem is: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=151596 Anyway, my best result for my wacom is with 7.3-release ports.tgz. I have a separate chroot for my Xorg-6.5 server and my X11 clients use TCP to connect to it. Let's see your problem by points: 1. Broken port. Is there any explanation why it's broken? anyway, there should be the way to override this although this may may not be a solution depending on the reason for port to be broken. 2. No uwacom.ko. Are you sure that it doesn't exist in your input-wacom/work directory when you successfully built the port? 3. You may note that ums(4) compiled into GENERIC statically, should not be present in your kernel before you try to kldload uwacom http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-January/189857.html And... ain't too much expectation from just a web search service ? ;-) 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 21:17:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE9D106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C01698FC17 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30954 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jan 2011 21:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 21:17:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=lZP4UKwdp5Cv82toJmCYpx94DEVZ5uDB9jJLp7MKBc165x4Gje19qmEoE78erUZE7C1bPSOx+tKNDik9Z1Pdzf54lBspEwKuNCuRgetusK+FmfL5dyo9TYlyv9VEpFFl; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph7J6-0008AK-R5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:17:10 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:07:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:07:47 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110123210747.GA56832@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20110123202350.GA56677@guilt.hydra> <20110123210410.GA5172@external.screwed.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110123210410.GA5172@external.screwed.box> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: missing uwacom.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:17:11 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:04:10AM +0300, Peter Vereshagin wrote: >=20 > I used to drop my wacom problems here. > Last time I've seen no uwacom.ko in /boot/modules was because of /boot wa= s on a > read-only mounted volume. The /boot directory is on the / partition, with 755 permissions at present. > Aother kind of my problem is: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr= =3D151596 > Anyway, my best result for my wacom is with 7.3-release ports.tgz. I have= a > separate chroot for my Xorg-6.5 server and my X11 clients use TCP to conn= ect to > it. > Let's see your problem by points: > 1. Broken port. Is there any explanation why it's broken? anyway, there s= hould > be the way to override this although this may may not be a solution depen= ding > on the reason for port to be broken. I haven't looked into this in too much depth yet. The error message just says it's marked as broken, though. > 2. No uwacom.ko. Are you sure that it doesn't exist in your input-wacom/w= ork > directory when you successfully built the port? I didn't build the port. It got installed as part of the OS install process, which surprised the heck out of me. I wonder if I accidentally selected something I did not intend to install when I was selecting what sources to include. In any case, after building the locate database, no uwacom shows up in the system at all. > 3. You may note that ums(4) compiled into GENERIC statically, should not = be > present in your kernel before you try to kldload uwacom > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-January/189857.= html I'm not sure this makes any difference when there's no wacom kernel module at all. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk08mKMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVJpQCg9mFB+i8RShvikSuN6Jdcq9hS IucAn15C/bH2DjZYaHXcUvoXtsn6zut6 =znhY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 21:58:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35D1106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from queueout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569B28FC16 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110123214201.MMAJ19887.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:42:01 +0000 Received: from [81.105.212.225] (helo=ideapad.piggybox) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph7hB-0001T4-An for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:42:01 +0000 Received: from ideapad.piggybox (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ideapad.piggybox (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0NMf7F6010088 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:41:07 GMT (envelope-from peter@ideapad.piggybox) Received: (from peter@localhost) by ideapad.piggybox (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0NMf6t4010087 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:41:06 GMT (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:41:06 +0000 From: Peter Harrison To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110123224106.GA9019@ideapad.piggybox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=NN4i2iftnIMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=H1h56kaChyTU6FG0TycA:9 a=UdPN4mlAfUU5O65nuYwUbVB0U_QA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: Subject: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:58:17 -0000 Hello list, I've just started messing around with my new Proliant. I've installed ESXi 4.1 and have a VM up and running with 8.2-RC2 using the (Windows only) vSphere client. I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. What are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD laptop? I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is there a command line or X-Windows option for remotely management? Any tips or suggestions gratefully receivied! TIA. Peter Harrison. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 21:58:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7ED10656C8 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0C08FC25 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor-exit-readme.hands.com [83.142.228.14]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E1AD5A83 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:40:47 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:58:07 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110123215806.GB5172@external.screwed.box> References: <20110123202350.GA56677@guilt.hydra> <20110123210410.GA5172@external.screwed.box> <20110123210747.GA56832@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110123210747.GA56832@guilt.hydra> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: missing uwacom.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:58:36 -0000 Como esta, FreeBSD? 2011/01/23 14:07:47 -0700 Chad Perrin => To FreeBSD Questions : CP> > read-only mounted volume. CP> The /boot directory is on the / partition, with 755 permissions at It can have any mode and at the same time the volume can be mounted read-only. CP> > 1. Broken port. Is there any explanation why it's broken? anyway, there should CP> > be the way to override this although this may may not be a solution depending CP> > on the reason for port to be broken. CP> I haven't looked into this in too much depth yet. The error message just CP> says it's marked as broken, though. I forgot it's a freebsd-8.x at yours, I tried and could not have a wacom deteced on a 8.x ... The author promises to take a driver upstream in the bas esystem, but it seems to be a long way. At the moment it seems that only Intuos/Graphire series are supported. CP> > 2. No uwacom.ko. Are you sure that it doesn't exist in your input-wacom/work CP> > directory when you successfully built the port? CP> I didn't build the port. It got installed as part of the OS install CP> process, which surprised the heck out of me. I wonder if I accidentally CP> selected something I did not intend to install when I was selecting what CP> sources to include. But somehow you get an error message. And this message is the one word: "Broken". Look, it is explicitly noted in the x11-drivers/inpuit-wacom port option: no uwacom.ko for 8.x. CP> > 3. You may note that ums(4) compiled into GENERIC statically, should not be CP> > present in your kernel before you try to kldload uwacom CP> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-January/189857.html CP> I'm not sure this makes any difference when there's no wacom kernel CP> module at all. There should be a uhid.ko on a 8.x? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 22:30:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6511065670 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76F038FC17 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11377 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jan 2011 22:30:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2011 22:30:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=d59oFmL+70Xc2+zvprLfeFiv5LClIc+LyzNLylSUzwCwafFHFDY8GLye96/NaLfouMLdBegHa8p6Oyctv8PMTlBIc/jK0eRVtH2sQ5Ub2IIzDrJhdaHUbTzrhgbhjdWR; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph8S2-0006XE-HV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:30:27 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:21:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:21:05 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110123222105.GA57069@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20110123202350.GA56677@guilt.hydra> <20110123210410.GA5172@external.screwed.box> <20110123210747.GA56832@guilt.hydra> <20110123215806.GB5172@external.screwed.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110123215806.GB5172@external.screwed.box> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: missing uwacom.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:30:28 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:58:07AM +0300, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Como esta, FreeBSD? > 2011/01/23 14:07:47 -0700 Chad Perrin =3D> To FreeB= SD Questions : > CP> > read-only mounted volume. > CP> The /boot directory is on the / partition, with 755 permissions at >=20 > It can have any mode and at the same time the volume can be mounted read-= only. Sorry -- I figured it would be understood that the / partition is not mounted read-only in this case. >=20 > CP> > 1. Broken port. Is there any explanation why it's broken? anyway, t= here should > CP> > be the way to override this although this may may not be a solution= depending > CP> > on the reason for port to be broken. > CP> I haven't looked into this in too much depth yet. The error message = just > CP> says it's marked as broken, though. >=20 > I forgot it's a freebsd-8.x at yours, I tried and could not have a wacom= deteced on a 8.x ... > The author promises to take a driver upstream in the bas esystem, but it = seems to be a long way. > At the moment it seems that only Intuos/Graphire series are supported. So . . . basically I'm screwed for FreeBSD with that machine. Right? >=20 > CP> > 2. No uwacom.ko. Are you sure that it doesn't exist in your input-w= acom/work > CP> > directory when you successfully built the port? > CP> I didn't build the port. It got installed as part of the OS install > CP> process, which surprised the heck out of me. I wonder if I accidenta= lly > CP> selected something I did not intend to install when I was selecting w= hat > CP> sources to include. >=20 > But somehow you get an error message. And this message is the one word: "= Broken". > Look, it is explicitly noted in the x11-drivers/inpuit-wacom port option: > no uwacom.ko for 8.x. I'm not sure what you're saying here. Config includes something about a USB module -- which appears to be the module it wants to use -- but this is an integrated tablet that, as far as I know, does not actually use USB for anything. Seems a little odd to me that this whole thing would fail just because it doesn't have USB support when I'm not plugging anything in to a USB port. Do ThinkPad X-series tablets use USB? >=20 > CP> > 3. You may note that ums(4) compiled into GENERIC statically, shoul= d not be > CP> > present in your kernel before you try to kldload uwacom > CP> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-January/1= 89857.html > CP> I'm not sure this makes any difference when there's no wacom kernel > CP> module at all. >=20 > There should be a uhid.ko on a 8.x? There is. =2E . . and? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk08qdEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVSxQCgwts1ZzFCMSVdOli5nEy8Mj1n MzIAn1ZGDNZ1Q9V3mwSPyLnF+dAg+p3Y =8cFO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 22:41:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C795106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292B68FC13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B1767; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:41:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 7dFSKWV-6qaz; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:41:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from snifi.laptop (87-205-85-131.adsl.inetia.pl [87.205.85.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0949030; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:41:43 +0100 (CET) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:41:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <4D3BBC8B.9040906@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4D3BBC8B.9040906@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201101232341.39107.milu@dat.pl> Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: Re: Configuration of Ath0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:41:46 -0000 Sunday 23 of January 2011 06:28:43 Da Rock napisa=B3(a): > On 01/23/11 10:38, Hubert Chadaj wrote: > > Hello, > >=20 > > I have a Wireless card with Atherneros chipset, a have problem with > > runing wlan on mode N? > > Can you halp me? > >=20 > > I done instalation of that with that how to: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html, and It > > works on moge G. >=20 > Have you got an N access point? Currently the 11n mode is unsupported. The 802.11n mode for ath is work in= =20 progress. Regards, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 22:52:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE50106566C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D208FC0C for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F1F4BE81C07; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:52:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:52:09 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110123225209.GA30339@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: enclosed:: bind97 errors. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:52:11 -0000 ----- Forwarded message from Gary Kline ----- Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:48:33 +0000 From: Gary Kline Subject: no mail...... To: FreeBSD Mailing List Last night mail was getting thru; but when I tried earlier. I'm pretty sure thetrouble is the new bind97. Did anybody get my last posting with the bind9.7 output? I'll paste it below if I can. Foward at 14:51: Thanks only to some namserver tricks in resolv.conf on ethic, my two computers are back on life support. BElow is the output from /var/log/messages of the new bind. I've tried to fix these errors: nothing. Does anybody onlist know how I can build in the /contrib/bind/*/*? What flags to set in the /usr/src/Makefile? Or:: howt o fix this mess below? Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: starting BIND 9.7.2-P3 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: built with '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn' '--enable-threads' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS= -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: NS 'ns1.thought.org' has no address records (A or AAAA) Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: zone thought.org/IN/internal: not loaded due to errors. Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/internal: loading from master file 3bed2cb3a3acf7b6a8ef408420cc682d5520e26976d354254f528c965612054f.mkeys failed: file not found Jan 23 01:07:14 ethic named[3229]: managed-keys-zone ./IN/external: loading from master file 3c4623849a49a53911c4a3e48d8cead8a1858960bccdea7a1b978d73ec2f06d7.mkeys failed: file not found Would be it possible to use the bind9 in /usr/contrib? Any insights welcome. gary -- Gary Kline Seattle BSD Users' Group (seabug) | kline@magnesium.net Thought Unlimited Org's Alternate Email Site http://www.magnesium.net/~kline To live is not a necessity; but to live honorably...is a necessity. -Kant ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 23:25:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF12106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from w3.lemis.com (w3.lemis.com [208.86.224.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F58E8FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dereel.lemis.com (1032.x.rootbsd.net [208.86.224.149]) by w3.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A317E3BB08; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dereel.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDCFBA1019; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:08:37 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:08:37 +1100 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Mike Adams , Polytropon Message-ID: <20110123230837.GA43766@dereel.lemis.com> References: <5C1EBEF3-44BF-43C4-A654-9FF95103C5E2@transamtrucking.com> <20110121125125.7de151aa.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C1EBEF3-44BF-43C4-A654-9FF95103C5E2@transamtrucking.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110121125125.7de151aa.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C1EBEF3-44BF-43C4-A654-9FF95103C5E2@transamtrucking.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-3-5346-1370 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't open serial line /dev/cuaa0: no such file or direcotry (2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:25:26 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [format recovered] On Friday, 21 January 2011 at 0:04:12 +0000, Mike Adams wrote: > To whom it may concern: I'm using a programme called tempcontrol > from Greg Lehey on a Dell pentium running BSD 6. Do you mean FreeBSD 6.x? I'm assuming so in the following. > When I run the programme, I get the above error. ls /dev shows that > there is no cuaa0, only cuad0. I see that this was changed to > standardize naming conventions. I've tried sh makedev cuaa0, but > get the errorCan't open makedev: no such file or directory. makedev is obsolete. > I should be most grateful if someone can get me over this problem The device you're looking for is either /dev/ttyd0 or (probably) /dev/cuad0. Quite possibly either would work. Set it in your temperaturecontrolrc file. Let me know if it works, and I'll update the sources. On Friday, 21 January 2011 at 12:51:25 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:04:12 +0000, Mike Adams = wrote: > >> I've tried sh makedev cuaa0, but get the errorCan't open >> makedev: no such file or directory. > > I think "sh MAKEDEV" would be the correct call. =46rom MAKEDEV(8): DESCRIPTION The MAKEDEV script was deprecated by devfs(5) and removed from FreeBSD after devfs(5) became mandatory. Basically, it can't work because the meaning of major and minor numbers has changed. > You could try to add a line like > > link cuad0 cuaa0 > > to /etc/devfs.conf and then > > # /etc/rc.d/devfs restart That would be the wrong solution. Programs that come in source can be modified, and in this case the program provides for alternative device names. > but I may be possible that the program you're intending to use does > require the "conventional" serial driver ... I'm not aware of any such program. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. 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If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk08tPUACgkQIubykFB6QiO82wCgiEI7jjtt1aO7EH30s5UZDGLQ pLAAnjZ0zZ4RdiRBHWj2bpzulK/5US0G =qW9d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 23:29:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A064A106564A for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markjdb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638AC8FC08 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3554143iwn.13 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:29:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=u/L8ZfDm+yGCiYQm+HEtp6GSi1byMm0tfmJ29PO9GA8=; b=iaSCx0YlBAv4HV2CmCDfUrxb7wsvE3pow5uTukU8Us1fBRcWv6YLeDqZtzo95sRd/a sa+EkZLmpGjFJmQZm+rTaK5jJkssictATRXFNF0UG8yWOUtoH9lXYqWc2lQ3Gl9Rufgh OUfp2pe/kZDTjhO+kNAHo8pOOZ5OUhwV4U6v0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=kfwGS36YVUssSUD0cpXWG6o/4NevqinNUC5WByDM3DuhBClD3/Oe5caxsokybch+In f7LGnB1MSR5iIbdhaZKi0X4phe9+O8AJ9DB/H5Vtp8rFHQEqfEPT471Cee2OVz3fNprb OBasU9uaZ3ZXUAlU+1NvqP7eRTSt5EqG0FPoU= Received: by 10.42.175.3 with SMTP id ay3mr2579770icb.13.1295823983201; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mark-debian.phub.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE00044b162033-CM00111ae61918.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.236.163.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id he5sm9385588icb.10.2011.01.23.15.06.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:06:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:07:33 -0500 From: Mark Johnston To: "Michael D. Norwick" Message-ID: <20110123230733.GA24421@mark-debian.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <4D3B8BD4.5010606@centurytel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3B8BD4.5010606@centurytel.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Colorized compiler/linker messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:29:04 -0000 On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 08:00:52PM -0600, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Good Day, > > I have seen this for some time when building ports and was wondering > how it was done. GCC when compiling and linking certain programs, > ebook for example, emits messages in various colors. How is that > done? Where does one find what the various colors are supposed to > signify? Or, is it just because it's more appealing? > > Thank You, > > Michael I'm not sure about ebook specifically, but there's a wrapper for gcc called colorgcc which colorizes the diagnostics and errors that gcc emits. The idea is that one can just do something like "CC=colorgcc make" when building. I'm sure there are other programs out there that do something similar, but colorgcc is the most common I think. Apparently there are similar wrappers for make and diff as well. -Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 23 23:45:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA0B106566B for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF07E8FC14 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BA15C44 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:52:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3CBCBE.9040001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:41:50 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> <4D3BBD3C.8070007@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123061837.361c6c6a@scorpio> <20110123201418.GA56598@guilt.hydra> <20110123203848.GC58619@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20110123203848.GC58619@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: follow up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:45:01 -0000 On 01/24/11 06:38, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 23 January 2011: > >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000 >>> Da Rock articulated: >>> >>> >>>> Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only >>>> get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts >>>> only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue >>>> receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts. >>>> >>> consensus >>> >>> Meaning: >>> : a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is >>> shared by all the people in a group [singular] >>> >>> OK, when was the vote on this issue taken? I must have been out of >>> town that week. >>> >> You and me both. I loathe getting multiples of emails. I'm on the list, >> so I already get a copy. I have no problem doing a group reply by >> request when someone's not on the list or only gets digest mails, though, >> or getting duplicates as a side-effect of that -- again, *by request*. >> >> Just spamming people with duplicates all the time for no good reason is a >> mite annoying, though. If I was aware of a vote, I would have voted >> "list reply". >> >> -- >> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] >> > +1 > > Now I'm feeling very alone... :) Mind you I was on your side when it was decided- where are all the old listers? It was a few years ago now. I thought one of the original deciders would have chimed in by now, but it appears quite a few have now moved on- I'm not even getting as many posts these days. In times past it was hard to keep up with it all, a fulltime job to read them all- let alone reply! Well arguments were: reply-list replies are posted back anyway duplicates taking up space etc reply-all posters don't have to subscribe so they won't receive list posts digesters won't keep up with replies -questions@ is meant to be first port of call, user friendly, easy access for help I'm happy to list post. I was talked around last time the vote was taken :) I suppose it depends more on the configuration of the list itself... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 00:59:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C38D106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail938c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail938c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03088FC15 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:59:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from blacky.norwickhouse.net (174-124-35-119.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.35.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail938c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0O0xVH2006668 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:59:33 GMT Message-ID: <4D3CCEF3.5050005@centurytel.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:59:31 -0600 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100629 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3B8BD4.5010606@centurytel.net> <20110123230733.GA24421@mark-debian.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <20110123230733.GA24421@mark-debian.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=EPoj7wgUeVyKjaH7/GZrAFhdP9HMntg8E2U5jSAgPVE= c=1 sm=1 a=Futu29cXXscA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1kf9EuSGpTLFoLf9O9aMsA==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=iInTPrwVVoWiH2aKt6EA:9 a=vEP6OVz6utb0cMO_11cA:7 a=V7mWGeGcfQcAwsBtvfwk3V9P6Y0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=1kf9EuSGpTLFoLf9O9aMsA==:117 Subject: Re: Colorized compiler/linker messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:59:35 -0000 On 01/23/2011 17:07, Mark Johnston wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 08:00:52PM -0600, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > >> Good Day, >> >> I have seen this for some time when building ports and was wondering >> how it was done. GCC when compiling and linking certain programs, >> ebook for example, emits messages in various colors. How is that >> done? Where does one find what the various colors are supposed to >> signify? Or, is it just because it's more appealing? >> >> Thank You, >> >> Michael >> > I'm not sure about ebook specifically, but there's a wrapper for gcc called > colorgcc which colorizes the diagnostics and errors that gcc emits. The idea is > that one can just do something like "CC=colorgcc make" when building. > > I'm sure there are other programs out there that do something similar, > but colorgcc is the most common I think. Apparently there are similar > wrappers for make and diff as well. > > -Mark > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Thank You, I'll look up the man pages for colorgcc and see if it is installed on my system. This explains a lot. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 01:16:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D25106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2F88FC08 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8A6E3E81C7E; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:16:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:16:52 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20110124011652.GA2298@thought.org> References: <20110122214356.GA96562@thought.org> <4D3B7561.6040601@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123013747.GA53062@guilt.hydra> <4D3BBD3C.8070007@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110123061837.361c6c6a@scorpio> <20110123201418.GA56598@guilt.hydra> <20110123203848.GC58619@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4D3CBCBE.9040001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3CBCBE.9040001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: follow up... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:16:54 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 09:41:50AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 01/24/11 06:38, Chip Camden wrote: > >Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 23 January 2011: > >>On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > >>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000 > >>>Da Rock articulated: > >>> > was decided- where are all the old listers? It was a few years ago > now. I thought one of the original deciders would have chimed in by > now, but it appears quite a few have now moved on- I'm not even > getting as many posts these days. In times past it was hard to keep > up with it all, a fulltime job to read them all- let alone reply! > > Well arguments were: > > reply-list > replies are posted back anyway > duplicates taking up space etc > > reply-all > posters don't have to subscribe so they won't receive list posts > digesters won't keep up with replies > -questions@ is meant to be first port of call, user friendly, > easy access for help > > I'm happy to list post. I was talked around last time the vote was > taken :) I suppose it depends more on the configuration of the list > itself... Hm. Hopefully, more help when it is Monday [in my locale :)] I've tried addring "A" records all over the place. Back to square -1. "not loaded due to errors" I's >> tuckered out... -g -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 02:02:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266C91065674 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suportearu@engeplus.com.br) Received: from srv1.engeplus.com.br (srv1.engeplus.com.br [189.28.176.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BF68FC2A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alexandre (unknown [189.124.120.51]) by srv1.engeplus.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9ED1C10E4A3 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:42:15 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <000601cbbb67$f2909ba0$0202a8c0@alexandre> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Suporte_Ararangu=E1_-_Engeplus_Telecom_Ltda?= To: Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:42:23 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:22:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:02:14 -0000 good night, I wonder if I can ultilizar a network card with about a 1000 = aliases rl0_alias1 rl0_alias100 Atenciosamente Alexandre Pidhorodeckyj Coordenador T=E9nico NetSystem (48)3524-0700 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 06:56:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1D81065673 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5036C8FC1D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.104]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46A32560D3 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.104]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.104]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81169-01 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sagan.local (cpe-76-83-7-25.socal.res.rr.com [76.83.7.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99B232560D2 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:56:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D3D22A7.5020308@networktest.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:56:39 -0800 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3C68A2.5010804@networktest.com> <20110123191223.f24430f8.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110123191223.f24430f8.jan0sch@gmx.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portmaster upgrade of p5-IO-Socket-SSL fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:56:41 -0000 On 1/23/11 10:12 AM, Jens Jahnke wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:58 -0800 > David Newman wrote: > > DN> FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64 > DN> > DN> The command 'portmaster security/p5-IO-Socket-SSL' fails because the > DN> module is not found in any archive. I've pasted the error output > DN> below. > > I had this issue on 8.1-RELEASE amd64 but after round about a day the > module showed up in the archives queried. Thanks. It only occurred to me after posting to email the maintainer for this port, who responded that there was a mistake in posting a bad update. Refreshing ports and rerunning portmaster works fine now. dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 07:45:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEA1106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C449E8FC0C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9EB1EAD0 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:45:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p0O7ji8s001512 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:45:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:45:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20110124084544.579885f9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TV test image generator using mencoder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:45:47 -0000 For an amateur TV (ham) project, I'm searching for a convenient way to create a test image DVD or CD using FreeBSD's port mencoder. But I can't get this working. Maybe somebody on list has an idea of how to accomplish this. Input: a still image (jpg, gif, png) of a test picture, as shown on TV, already available Output: a VCD-compatible MPEG video file which shows the picture (which does not change) and plays a 1 kHz testing sound (sine wave); the length of "video" should be given in minutes More: a DVD-compatible output could be provided for better quality if needed The idea is this: With a set of, let's say 5 of such MPEG files, each lasting 10 minutes, I want to burn a VCD because that's what the player in use can play best. If it plays the in "repeat mode", every 10 minutes the test image will change, the sound will stay the same. The VCD can be done with mkvcdfs, I've already done that for other purposes, works good. As this player is a stand-alone device, there's no trouble getting a TV (video or even antenna) signal out of a PC. :-) Background: The test VCD can be played in continuous loop while the transmitter is running. This way, receiving tests can be done, as there is a good testing signal for making statements about video and audio quality. The combination of both, also using something standar- dized (instead of a camera input, showing the town from above or a look out of the window across the street) is buch better for making QUALIFIED statements about signal quality. Adjustments to the equipment can be done more easily. I've tried to do this with mencoder, but can't get any usable results. How would you suggest to get this done? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 09:55:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B81D106567A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ali64iust@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0870D8FC12 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3916336iwn.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:55:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gt327wWRbKdG7IljJXcXGWnXkabgPkp1ILIELphw6vk=; b=CPWMrsMlsM5nOjU8BermS3Xv+WF+PLyCqqRUg04DONPxEwd1bjjv9WelqTe5GkDMR4 tvN8+dwhTTwftP/mzxyopP+XHvvMApE98kgoVriIXLDg8jHCBM6xKDfmSZXwO2WDJ4io 21PPQf56qytSMGJ26EWXtI5buzKwO4qwDNlaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Z/kyIJyx0vzuua1Pf7dKGUqMosqMijT1iuLYtTY+BNJ9Snjt33LHi82o50BxYnmSNP cXitRa4DDxZGuLOfuU9nTQajBn3QYQEYeO1iy1KoiiBXNATdFDZIQmYddbOgb3T3OxdN VVkq49T/XKVmNEv9K4/hBkxZYQtYDgJO/uVoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.228.3 with SMTP id jc3mr4515052icb.307.1295862914329; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.178.74 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:55:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:14 +0330 Message-ID: From: alireza imani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: using openssl in kernel module that are loaded at runtime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:55:15 -0000 I've got a quick question about using openssl within custom kernel modules that are loaded at runtime. Is openssl designed to be used within kernel modules? Specifically I want to use some the des and aes encryption routines. I have a kernel module (for an embedded system) that includes . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 10:17:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB5B106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19ED8FC15 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC63D5C44 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:24:06 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3D50E4.8070604@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:13:56 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110124084544.579885f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110124084544.579885f9.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TV test image generator using mencoder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:17:04 -0000 On 01/24/11 17:45, Polytropon wrote: > For an amateur TV (ham) project, I'm searching for a > convenient way to create a test image DVD or CD using > FreeBSD's port mencoder. But I can't get this working. > Maybe somebody on list has an idea of how to accomplish > this. > > Input: a still image (jpg, gif, png) of a test picture, > as shown on TV, already available > > Output: a VCD-compatible MPEG video file which shows the > picture (which does not change) and plays a 1 kHz > testing sound (sine wave); the length of "video" > should be given in minutes > > More: a DVD-compatible output could be provided for > better quality if needed > > The idea is this: With a set of, let's say 5 of such > MPEG files, each lasting 10 minutes, I want to burn a > VCD because that's what the player in use can play best. > If it plays the in "repeat mode", every 10 minutes the > test image will change, the sound will stay the same. > The VCD can be done with mkvcdfs, I've already done > that for other purposes, works good. As this player > is a stand-alone device, there's no trouble getting > a TV (video or even antenna) signal out of a PC. :-) > > Background: The test VCD can be played in continuous loop > while the transmitter is running. This way, receiving > tests can be done, as there is a good testing signal > for making statements about video and audio quality. > The combination of both, also using something standar- > dized (instead of a camera input, showing the town > from above or a look out of the window across the > street) is buch better for making QUALIFIED statements > about signal quality. Adjustments to the equipment > can be done more easily. > > I've tried to do this with mencoder, but can't get any > usable results. > > How would you suggest to get this done? > > > > http://mplayerhq.hu The docs cover all that, and mencoder can output in vcd or dvd format. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 10:48:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230CC10656A5 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C2E8FC1D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so3921703wyf.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:48:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EdPHkqHFDeWqx1iRDfHQP5lWzwnfWd7IqjKNWvnEK8A=; b=dSyMLA9ZtivAYVc71yX7q8+G/OnNH7hjiPUerAzwp9dvgAGGCRTMFN2L7LRq+Cq04v /8q/EHKK9Gan1ajQLeRaHuNaQDtSXd9nvcF8sl4SzRjZh5ov/kqQ0aD+tftuqebwvGJN 3BcnB+BO5P+PcRVST0VduW6xkgrqdkEQa51pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kckYq9UDbvhZndk70ZlS9RUtrc4wIlynSAt1d9PC8dS3Ix0eFT6tc9SiZ3se1+Yh3Y UDI6lYNqeQrkfr16DElcckimTmZUWpVR8vLsjcMFgcHgcmgTrQiLGRhOIm1iwngpxtLE dyI+g0bvQIrlCW7qA66To48TMDD0iHq4hPIeI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.19 with SMTP id f19mr3226356wea.88.1295864553599; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.167.199 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:22:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110123224106.GA9019@ideapad.piggybox> References: <20110123224106.GA9019@ideapad.piggybox> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:22:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Peter Harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:48:49 -0000 On 23 January 2011 22:41, Peter Harrison wrote: > Hello list, > > I've just started messing around with my new Proliant. I've installed ESX= i 4.1 and have a VM up and running with 8.2-RC2 using the (Windows only) vS= phere client. > > I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. Wha= t are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD lap= top? I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is th= ere a command line or X-Windows option for remotely management? > > Any tips or suggestions gratefully receivied! > > TIA. > > > > Peter Harrison. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > There are command line tools for linux I believe, not sure if they will work on freebsd though. However what I have done on my esx is install a freebsd host, that has 2x virtual nics. One has a public ip and the other goes into the vmware management lan. I then enabled ssh on the esxi host. I can then get a shell and do all manner of wonderful things 8). The freebsd box provided the security for the esxi host by locking down access with pf and a limited number of accts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 11:40:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D37106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EBC8FC21 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so3797253qyk.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:40:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ijch4LCUzH7o6I5lu46k+MJoxGyZE02O2lRZTqtyO5Q=; b=Hfllv75NBbhAtUdMefSqCUXXM8BNWOdr3153mJtkLNrAD4n2uLqwcAIEzpBtpqsKK9 VLGWUrywaLqNFvKCLRnnvL2Ltyw+UkHdDOWCMmCwbsfJwx2aDEa9Xhw/EDSB3xdcz+6d aZ/wC2OZarrtgMMDLwlnT7cF5JiFh84S5fThU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=K2gqfi11SUIFP4QX6I/7Inu2XRzrGomsu8ndT4EKc9LW5tJhJVyyqYGzbAR/LOtmnu aubMaPZ1z0T7+DJW7vG4x3BLepxUtGk5xRH+ThSGyZHsXa1ZvmYje6kxsSCHwrC9B02L TtcKrFFMxl9lqYEln7fBDaG7GAnAGgc6zx44I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.192.76 with SMTP id dp12mr3769148qcb.65.1295869207135; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:40:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:10:07 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 & FreeBSD 8.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:40:08 -0000 Hello FreeBSD people all over the world, There is an onboard Intel SATA controller on Intel DH55HC motherboard. I have tried FreeBSD version 7.3 and 8.1 on this motherboard, it recognizes the SATA controller but recognizes the hard disk as IDE devices. How can this happen? $ uname -a FreeBSD mail.freebsdsystem.net 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 23 19:28:28 IRST 2011 root@mail.freebsdsystem.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 $ dmesg | grep SATA atapci1: port 0xf090-0xf097,0xf080-0xf083,0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf020-0xf03f mem 0xfe725000-0xfe7257ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s ad10: 476940MB at ata5-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s ad12: 476940MB at ata6-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s acd0: DVDR at ata7-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s $ I did everything to prevent the FreeBSD kernel from recognizing the hard drives as IDE. I turned off all IDE emulation options in the BIOS. How can I fix that? Thanks Bahman Kahinpour From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 11:47:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E7A1065672 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D6C8FC12 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so3802236qwj.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:47:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HcGyk/H7r8SvDTw7IVssGQuq4ULsqcluI1EYl+S0+7c=; b=mKHYrpM3Ynu6/Adxbp4vqxgXJURofJpIBWnhHVS964r5JPvapApIX7Vb3YKuWOv4u3 MJD8t/17HlAUiI1+GQV6UT4GKPJbkANtXzThCf03qdOQU5+a0NlPeKXbIvrAwWb59TAC pP7oR6nsL1fb8420QlnsJs/vkikFa3ZRaHyRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Wmy3+lkPP0JqysM9wf7NvZi2+h1O5HW1EzO3D6wBeKbi7d1ih2BYQUgDe8grY5wCwf ogl/hB+hQDDbb7oz7y/yrH4tgMYLJfYEcbg1yCBytarhHt9rcIPsenrMWFIMqJPOfO0p 1jm11pKPO2x5Us4g/Nuacu10EZAxZW7Q/5ebs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.192.76 with SMTP id dp12mr3774946qcb.65.1295869644913; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 03:47:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:17:24 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ATI Radeon 4350 Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:47:26 -0000 Hi, Thanks for your reply. I compiled them after doing a "portsnap fetch extract" again today but the problem still persists. The problem exists also in the 7.3-release both 32-bit and 64-bit architectures. Do you think I shall test CURRENT (devel) version and report the bug if it is still there? On 1/23/11, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2011, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > >> Hi FreeBSD people all over the world, >> >> I've installed FreeBSD 8.1 on a system which has ATI Radeon 4350 (I >> tried both 32bit and 64bit architectures, in both situations the >> problem persists). After enabling HALD and DBUS my system runs X >> Window System (GNOME, ...) very well without any problem or >> instability. But when I exit the X Window System to the TCSH (e.g. >> through the System>Logout in GNOME), my system suddenly reboots when I >> try to get into the X Window System again. >> >> During a single bootup, my system can start the X Window System only >> once and just reboots (not a proper reboot/one of these sudden >> without-saving-anything/without-syncing-disks boots). >> >> As the system runs (that single time) X Window System properly without >> any problems I do not think there is a driver problem. What should I >> do? I think it needs one of these >> compile-your-kernel-again-with-this-little-option tricks!!! Has anyone >> managed to get ATI 4350 working on 8.1-RELEASE? > > It should Just Work. Did you addeWITHOUT_NOUVEAU=yes to > /etc/make.conf before installing xorg and xf86-video-ati? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 12:18:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B6F1065679 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED72C8FC17 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so3995424wyf.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:18:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TgJiSPW2vzxxLzh/ZJPAnoez1ucf8dFHbJ2nXVVLUDs=; b=OV67fPuOKWBaKUrzcpXtsPciN4cPx7364lgG+tIq1FdrdMBq0GSF4Jc0GmoxOi5I2P uyGK8T7h7iYZFYo7ZN0de6iCGbYEaUJEfERqQ4gh0k1gBXsirL98yYTGjvhqwoDZCDwv f9vN7MFJKAU4Qqosh3xJCydiZ/OyRPx03q538= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NoxxY0AX+taK2ldZPK+MZPkTj0drX5ClO5rXFlKYNuWM055apFiDj4WSx+BGRm/NMi jvou9lrL4tsl+UEJqGoV7nNqZwtOI7NIP840WlbrdaeAw5RERsjE+kBHoLu/7JIBcy6e pAbtWY04ViQHu4hdkGY5gK2JDgINlOi9CHp6A= Received: by 10.227.209.9 with SMTP id ge9mr578097wbb.81.1295871514974; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 11sm9234910wbi.0.2011.01.24.04.18.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:18:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:21 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:36 -0000 On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:47:23 -0800 kellyremo wrote: > > "to memory" means: mounting a ~2 GByte filesystem [ tmpfs?, or > ramfs? ], and put the "/tmp" on it. [ e.g.: 4 GByte ram in the pc ]. > what to write in the "/etc/fstab"? I have tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,size=4280000000 I would suggest you don't use tmpmfs="YES" in rc.conf unless you are being very conservative with a production server. tmpfs is nominally experimental, but it seems to be very stable, and it's much more memory efficient than md devices. > Advantages: > - Memory is way faster then HDD/SSD, so it could speed things up It's not all that much faster due caching and soft-updates on hard disks. > Disadvantages: > - Security? [ how to set this up to be secure? any clear > howtos/links regarding it? :O ] Do you have any particular concerns? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 12:38:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8D91065670 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E878FC12 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424E7E8329; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:17 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=kwvzBuvgy3Q8 nFPEE6AP7NQZ9ms=; b=qolq7TjrUrkmKxEh+1d0WF2acnCrhEx4D78vzQH6AWc+ /ktzba/Oybx8qos/vFDTyQA8TC/QEHUYBYxMcKIR8TgPI9e9uiVmObPrGq/xXFmv cLBi+c/WOUKbVMq6vEnE2Z3DzhbLWchPb7dkBXQCjyk4Olvb/njAU4oPF6ypbEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=CTeey6 +0H7tt4bPzMg4sTj5Y4sGWUacXp9Ja+Ywxl2OEG3dz3HgNI0Hxz5qeLEJoXOSFYh 8snKqV79TbLGhqUupsHyEALoQzPvVmqiiQGL16nRrB8PDIwNUBRi33izdPQgXvpk lMCyOi18HXu802SsvAskiDebaQFrWd/oxlSVk= Received: from unknown (client-86-23-95-6.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.23.95.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03E5DE8324; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:16 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:10 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: RW Message-ID: <20110124123810.00004aaf@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:18 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:21 +0000 RW wrote: > tmpfs is nominally > experimental, but it seems to be very stable, and it's much more > memory efficient than md devices. But it doesn't work well with ZFS. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 12:52:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381941065673 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE38D8FC0C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1327121gyf.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.206.12 with SMTP id d12mr4598568ybg.40.1295873528042; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm8605511yba.2.2011.01.24.04.52.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 04:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6F68E5485F for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:52:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:52:05 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110124075205.4632d037@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:52:09 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:21 +0000 RW articulated: > I have > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,size=4280000000 > > I would suggest you don't use tmpmfs="YES" in rc.conf unless you are > being very conservative with a production server. tmpfs is nominally > experimental, but it seems to be very stable, and it's much more > memory efficient than md devices. On a FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE, I have the following: cat /etc/fstab | grep -i "tmpfs" tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,mode=01777 0 0 It works very well and I have not noticed any problems whatsoever. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Critics are like eunuchs in a harem: they know how it is done, they have seen it done every day, but they are unable to do it themselves. Brendan Behan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 13:09:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AAD106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282F08FC18 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie19 with SMTP id 19so1334662yie.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.39.20 with SMTP id r20mr5314183yaj.25.1295874548189; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c30sm16235430anc.0.2011.01.24.05.09.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE830E5485F for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:09:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:09:05 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110124080905.0746bf1f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110124123810.00004aaf@unknown> References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110124123810.00004aaf@unknown> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:09:09 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:10 +0000 Bruce Cran articulated: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:21 +0000 > RW wrote: > > > tmpfs is nominally > > experimental, but it seems to be very stable, and it's much more > > memory efficient than md devices. > > But it doesn't work well with ZFS. I had not heard about that. What problems does its use exhibit when used in conjunction with ZFS? -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ I never take work home with me; I always leave it in some bar along the way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 13:22:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6456106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672A58FC14 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0ODMLIO093310 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:22:21 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4D3D7D0D.6090700@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:22:21 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101218 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virtualbox - no /dev/acd0 in VM even if it's booting from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:22:23 -0000 I just upgraded to virtualbox-ose-3.2.12 (ditto the vbox kmod port), and then tried to install a new VM. It booted from the CD fine but sysinstall reported that it couldn't find a CD drive to install from. Booting another VM that already existed showed the same problem - /dev/ad0 exists but /dev/acd0 doesn't and there's no sign of it during the device detection part of the boot. Anyone else seeing this problem? Details: The host machine is amd64, running 8.1-RELEASE-p2 GENERIC. The new VM is booting FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso The old VM is running i386 8.1-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC, and can't see /dev/acd0 regardless of whether or not an ISO is attached to it. -- "Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like." -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 13:25:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFE21065670 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721638FC17 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E1BE8329; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:11 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=sq+XHYGyK67b 0IrLhkIrb4btLZs=; b=ZNMbECglLbvxOkn/I7qWRfVxLgrwnsfaguKnqCtAzKw8 p14nZ1OX6/BQwQv6g1U8pCEnjmRYJ8BmG4OnnZa//62PeNG+YoK1br9QuSZWKW9T 0ntZZqzzfG+el2R6Zjfi10u7iglk0JDbwHV/EDFdd4LBD/S2FIVRU8E/H2FxpRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=ntOI1s /HTrDd0yQr/e3JvbU6RxlzUArot+RJk5ig2h6M6UjKUX1s/PnaJsT32yT4ZBONGm soD1hX9au48mAgzsIaZi5MeuYW3VN2aH/xKqddfTM6BzjqywjffddOoANeBiwu8g OQbhjv7JfJdRJSjAom0muZFONQyYbZHk2OwMQ= Received: from unknown (client-86-23-95-6.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.23.95.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57D29E8324; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:05 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110124132505.000073ca@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110124080905.0746bf1f@scorpio> References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110124123810.00004aaf@unknown> <20110124080905.0746bf1f@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd.user@seibercom.net Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:12 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:09:05 -0500 Jerry wrote: > I had not heard about that. What problems does its use exhibit when > used in conjunction with ZFS? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-January/060867.html -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 14:01:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707DB106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4098FC0C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so3933350qwj.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:01:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=s71f4yTlV9xSJu7gxlg8YBsSAAo+jPKHpg6Hf/mGU44=; b=AUXvj8O/EYTRZNg/LYAdG3mS0CPomlUCWrrLAPthMwrCrjVo2m81Zru7G27KpYw+AI Ak0LjM4X5xFXCPykFaxvJ5fOw4FKlCfcnlF1qKmlEL+78tdp7DxvKz7HgEaOFv5nOJNx 5JU1LJ7toFvhjLL33vjnhdjmIvpO9WgHae610= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hVsP4rd1dZ6UkCSzvlMwSd4ugfQQrAdtrWojFUfIIdVxI7ofNgFPBsJfyZgKDBxDrr b0EgWXDoKfAEiVsTOsPjrKoUMyK5RnfXxypHBWAbbFpNJW755oBe6ULjV59ZMBye0eQW Jit2GsSYPcN0B5dFRLCLywhdXNcGtpKArvyO8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.209 with SMTP id c17mr4169182qab.266.1295877674948; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:01:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:01:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201101241323.p0ODNJgx042895@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201101241323.p0ODNJgx042895@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:31:14 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 & FreeBSD 8.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:01:16 -0000 Do you mean that both traditional IDE drives and these new SATA drives both begin with "ad" in FreeBSD? I am new to FreeBSD, I have just migrated from Linux. In Linux, traditional IDE drives used to begin with "hd" and these new SATA drives began with "sd" and recognized as SCSI devices. I expected this new SATA drives to begin with "da" in FreeBSD. Do you mean I am wrong and both IDE and SATA devices begin with "ad"? On 1/24/11, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 24 05:48:21 2011 >> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:10:07 +0330 >> From: Bahman Kahinpour >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 >> & >> FreeBSD 8.1) >> >> Hello FreeBSD people all over the world, >> >> There is an onboard Intel SATA controller on Intel DH55HC motherboard. I >> have tried FreeBSD version 7.3 and 8.1 on this motherboard, it recognizes >> the SATA controller but recognizes the hard disk as IDE devices. How can >> this happen? >> >> $ uname -a >> FreeBSD mail.freebsdsystem.net 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Sun >> Jan 23 19:28:28 IRST 2011 >> root@mail.freebsdsystem.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >> $ dmesg | grep SATA >> atapci1: port >> 0xf090-0xf097,0xf080-0xf083,0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf020-0xf03f mem >> 0xfe725000-0xfe7257ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 >> ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA >> 3Gb/s >> ad10: 476940MB at ata5-master UDMA100 >> SATA 3Gb/s >> ad12: 476940MB at ata6-master UDMA100 >> SATA 3Gb/s >> acd0: DVDR at ata7-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s >> $ >> >> I did everything to prevent the FreeBSD kernel from recognizing the hard >> drives as IDE. I turned off all IDE emulation options in the BIOS. >> >> How can I fix that? > > what are you -expecting- to see? ATA drives, either PATA or SATA _are_ > IDE interface. the boot messages show they're being regocnises as SATA, > at 3 gigabit/sec. Everything looks right to me. :) > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 14:08:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A0D1065670 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEDE8FC19 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84E52DF065 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:08:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id BA8C3105441D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:08:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3204105441A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:08:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D3D87E3.2000708@esiee.fr> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:08:35 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Partitions greater than 1TB ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:08:37 -0000 Hello I'm trying to install a new server ( HP Proliant 380 G7 ) which has a 2.5 TB RAID Array. It seems impossible to use the Freebsd sysinstall to partition this raid array disks. I get an error message when running the partitionner Error mounting /mnt/dev/da1s1e on /mnt/.user : input/output error Anyone has infos about this problem ? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 14:16:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DA41065675 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ADC8FC13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588C05C44 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:23:39 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3D8909.7040408@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:13:29 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201101241323.p0ODNJgx042895@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 & FreeBSD 8.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:16:36 -0000 On 01/25/11 00:01, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > Do you mean that both traditional IDE drives and these new SATA drives > both begin with "ad" in FreeBSD? I am new to FreeBSD, I have just > migrated from Linux. In Linux, traditional IDE drives used to begin > with "hd" and these new SATA drives began with "sd" and recognized as > SCSI devices. I expected this new SATA drives to begin with "da" in > FreeBSD. Do you mean I am wrong and both IDE and SATA devices begin > with "ad"? > > I believe so, yes. I have several SATA systems running FreeBSD, as well as some ATA. Only difference is the numerical start- ad0 as opposed to ad4, but I believe that is mainboard bios dependent. > On 1/24/11, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 24 05:48:21 2011 >>> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:10:07 +0330 >>> From: Bahman Kahinpour >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 >>> & >>> FreeBSD 8.1) >>> >>> Hello FreeBSD people all over the world, >>> >>> There is an onboard Intel SATA controller on Intel DH55HC motherboard. I >>> have tried FreeBSD version 7.3 and 8.1 on this motherboard, it recognizes >>> the SATA controller but recognizes the hard disk as IDE devices. How can >>> this happen? >>> >>> $ uname -a >>> FreeBSD mail.freebsdsystem.net 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Sun >>> Jan 23 19:28:28 IRST 2011 >>> root@mail.freebsdsystem.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >>> $ dmesg | grep SATA >>> atapci1: port >>> 0xf090-0xf097,0xf080-0xf083,0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf020-0xf03f mem >>> 0xfe725000-0xfe7257ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 >>> ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA >>> 3Gb/s >>> ad10: 476940MB at ata5-master UDMA100 >>> SATA 3Gb/s >>> ad12: 476940MB at ata6-master UDMA100 >>> SATA 3Gb/s >>> acd0: DVDR at ata7-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s >>> $ >>> >>> I did everything to prevent the FreeBSD kernel from recognizing the hard >>> drives as IDE. I turned off all IDE emulation options in the BIOS. >>> >>> How can I fix that? >>> >> what are you -expecting- to see? ATA drives, either PATA or SATA _are_ >> IDE interface. the boot messages show they're being regocnises as SATA, >> at 3 gigabit/sec. Everything looks right to me. :) >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 14:19:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD3D106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF288FC08 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so4154919iyb.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.173.6 with SMTP id p6mr4845589icz.183.1295878789896; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:19:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.202 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:19:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D3D7D0D.6090700@qeng-ho.org> References: <4D3D7D0D.6090700@qeng-ho.org> From: Chris Brennan Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:19:29 -0500 Message-ID: To: Arthur Chance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Virtualbox - no /dev/acd0 in VM even if it's booting from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:19:50 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: > I just upgraded to virtualbox-ose-3.2.12 (ditto the vbox kmod port), and > then tried to install a new VM. It booted from the CD fine but sysinstall > reported that it couldn't find a CD drive to install from. Booting another > VM that already existed showed the same problem - /dev/ad0 exists but > /dev/acd0 doesn't and there's no sign of it during the device detection part > of the boot. > > Anyone else seeing this problem? > > Details: > > The host machine is amd64, running 8.1-RELEASE-p2 GENERIC. > > The new VM is booting FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > > The old VM is running i386 8.1-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC, and can't see /dev/acd0 > regardless of whether or not an ISO is attached to it. > > Did you try editing your VBox config for your VM? Make sure the CD-ROM is attached to the VM? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 14:43:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A773106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A43E8FC15 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so1363362gyf.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.200.21 with SMTP id x21mr4707285ybf.298.1295880179104; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3sm8749689ybe.23.2011.01.24.06.42.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1570EE5485F for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:42:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:42:55 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110124094255.5a29f6e6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110124132505.000073ca@unknown> References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110124123810.00004aaf@unknown> <20110124080905.0746bf1f@scorpio> <20110124132505.000073ca@unknown> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:43:00 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:25:05 +0000 Bruce Cran articulated: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:09:05 -0500 > Jerry wrote: > > > I had not heard about that. What problems does its use exhibit when > > used in conjunction with ZFS? > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-January/060867.html Thanks for the link. I don't use ZFS so it does not directly concern me; although, it is a good thing to know. FreeBSD, at least from what I can ascertain, really does not have good support for ZFS anyway. I question whether releasing a product of dubious functionality is an intelligent thing to do. The old axiom of only getting one chance to make a good first impression would seem to be apropos to the situation. Just my 2¢. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ No one has a higher opinion of him than he has. Greg Lehey, FreeBSDcon 1999 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 15:14:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE63106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F578FC1A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so4009110qwj.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:14:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZPaNDGg025SV7FDCv8cu2ugmRYdu6cU4JmcGrugqY1I=; b=IimKS0tTgn+ozyt2tc/iPq2ZTjJJ1R1NpAu3ZNha8BqK0Mm82nZ6NTIKKgBrhTTN3I W4DlnJWF1h2gfz2glxjOsVpBd+N04vomgb3GdHqID8m3pudo7zEc8IW/tluTO7iyOB73 QxKdovEa3lTl3BRIXeRuSWrXbFGwYY0BCY/E8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xhPtHOXg6lysqoMRNx1tdz+CIKrOraPDSTDvfcyxw+hVkCplQpGfZofle8Ir8r80ME WO6Gq/M0srz0V1AhHuyzv5dHfg4Mvp1azwT6s3K9dXBzHzs1pF0p+zpMvblhG3mD0Sl+ ERrIW5+AYywZFj5vbxkiqyERYATJspq39gSg0= Received: by 10.229.81.12 with SMTP id v12mr3899462qck.132.1295882074337; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:14:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.175.141 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:14:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> From: Paul B Mahol Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:14:14 +0100 Message-ID: To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:14:35 -0000 On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:47 PM, John R. Levine wrote: >>> Is this a known problem? =A0As far as I know, it's supposed to work. >> >> How you change MAC address? With "ether" command? > > # ifconfig em0 ether 01:17:a4:8f:04:5d Well, if it does not work it can be driver bug. In iwn case try to set MAC address of iwn before creating wlan or you will need to set same MAC on wlanX and iwn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 15:40:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3EA106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68B38FC08 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F505C45 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:47:41 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3D9CBC.7060700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:37:32 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:40:38 -0000 On 01/25/11 01:14, Paul B Mahol wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:47 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > >>>> Is this a known problem? As far as I know, it's supposed to work. >>>> >>> How you change MAC address? With "ether" command? >>> >> # ifconfig em0 ether 01:17:a4:8f:04:5d >> > Well, if it does not work it can be driver bug. > > In iwn case try to set MAC address of iwn before creating wlan or > you will need to set same MAC on wlanX and iwn. > Actually I can confirm that. I use lagg for failover, and I remember now you have to set the 'real' interface to the MAC of the other lagg member, not a 'psuedo-device' or it won't work. Same principle applies here. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 15:49:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9E11065670 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DE18FC22 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A191E8329; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:49:50 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=oloMKse664Vo Wa1z3xxnzXHjjM4=; b=v5hmo+87YbotrZ9ZX+wJfpx06RdyeTQZ2346POUyzUZV YnOQg1NKO2XophafdgPKByiAVVLedH+ZVm/u39ds4zI1DtHaXB6fxz7yJpkyWVz2 FVfb+wHXX99FxFKCrzA6E5G871Xkt9KB1Cxukk2odzaxAznO6oUJ7L/tfeJCnaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=mXevp+ y+Ddw2H9ydyshlJ0KJyuj2VL+DW2TqkSKrvR7ViDFGdr93o/TMmcOINsN2S/vaeB FxIig9yCJBK3qdaM/qTUSz5sARNA8WKk2S6UQjhHb4djo//sds/sRMPqJE4Hngju SqONqVCdXESq8SlpCJ0O64jRNmeeharHMKD/0= Received: from unknown (client-86-23-95-6.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.23.95.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB75AE8324; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:49:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:49:41 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110124154941.0000428e@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110124094255.5a29f6e6@scorpio> References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110124123810.00004aaf@unknown> <20110124080905.0746bf1f@scorpio> <20110124132505.000073ca@unknown> <20110124094255.5a29f6e6@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd.user@seibercom.net Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:49:51 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:42:55 -0500 Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD, at least from what > I can ascertain, really does not have good support for ZFS anyway. I > question whether releasing a product of dubious functionality is an > intelligent thing to do. The old axiom of only getting one chance to > make a good first impression would seem to be apropos to the > situation. =46rom what I can ascertain and having actually used it, ZFS has great support on FreeBSD. --=20 Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 15:54:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9422C1065696 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2AC8FC17 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0OFsYhZ001996; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:54:35 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4D3DA0BA.6020602@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:54:34 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101218 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Brennan References: <4D3D7D0D.6090700@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Virtualbox - no /dev/acd0 in VM even if it's booting from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:54:37 -0000 On 01/24/11 14:19, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: > >> I just upgraded to virtualbox-ose-3.2.12 (ditto the vbox kmod port), and >> then tried to install a new VM. It booted from the CD fine but sysinstall >> reported that it couldn't find a CD drive to install from. Booting another >> VM that already existed showed the same problem - /dev/ad0 exists but >> /dev/acd0 doesn't and there's no sign of it during the device detection part >> of the boot. >> >> Anyone else seeing this problem? >> >> Details: >> >> The host machine is amd64, running 8.1-RELEASE-p2 GENERIC. >> >> The new VM is booting FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso >> >> The old VM is running i386 8.1-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC, and can't see /dev/acd0 >> regardless of whether or not an ISO is attached to it. >> >> > Did you try editing your VBox config for your VM? Make sure the CD-ROM is > attached to the VM? Well, as I booted from a release CD ISO in order to install FBSD into a new VM, I'm pretty certain it was attached. :-) Much the same happens attempting to boot an Ubuntu ISO - it boots fine but then goes catatonic when I say I want to run it as a live CD. I've been playing about some more using my old installed VM. If under the storage settings I make the CD device the IDE secondary master it doesn't show up. If I make it the primary slave, at boot time immediately after ad0 has been detected I get the following pair of messages ata0: timeout waiting to issue command ata0: error issuing ATA PACKET command repeated 15 times, with acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA100 appearing after 5 message pairs. However, if after that I try to access the ISO attached to it, I get 5 pairs of timeout/error messages and an input error. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 15:58:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB991065674 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0998a9c099=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B748FC1E for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87954 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2011 15:31:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=15791.4d3d9b48.k1101; i=johnl@submit.iecc.com; bh=ZNHT6LMGJCRy9gwu6GHvwTjit3FfaskHk+CNTcoZafE=; b=RUEZRvEOq9yM2MxHDY90W2BCp+1oRpWZ7PpOIF4ijUibi96K01ZZvW7JqR/yfweWyD9S/MtaLQnIuLy9gBXRDPqD7Z7emI40lwfubLpXvL3+hi9Grb4NN/7qsWrHJrjqGlfQlo73X70dtxVZi4KyhnHJta/xqlx3gMO6+pe6aos= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd johnl@64.57.183.62) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 24 Jan 2011 15:30:58 -0000 Date: 24 Jan 2011 10:31:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Paul B Mahol" In-Reply-To: References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3825401791-2001123133-1295883080=:63850" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:58:02 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3825401791-2001123133-1295883080=:63850 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE >>>> Is this a known problem? =C2=A0As far as I know, it's supposed to work= =2E > Well, if it does not work it can be driver bug. Well, yes, that's what I'm asking. Is it a known driver bug? > In iwn case try to set MAC address of iwn before creating wlan or > you will need to set same MAC on wlanX and iwn. Done that, doesn't help. 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Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3AC8FC08 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8E7B6E80950; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:59:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:59:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110124165912.GA20783@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: need help with bind; either the originial, or the new X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:59:17 -0000 release. Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. Guys, I need some feedback from those DNS wizards onlist. The trouble I've been having has to do with bind/named. My server failed when the old bind9 reached its end-of-life. Thr new bind97 is not a drop-in replacement and from the troubles I See in my /var/log/messages, I don't understand why things are suddenly breaking. Can I go back to the original, builtin bind in /contrib? Else, how can I go to the dns/bind9 that has worked for years? thanks for any insights, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 17:04:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D938B10656C1 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388428FC12 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110124170438.OUWV19887.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:38 +0000 Received: from [82.132.139.242] (helo=[10.124.72.161]) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PhPqG-0008Pz-6x; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:38 +0000 From: "Peter Harrison" To: Kevin Wilcox Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:05:40 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: i-default Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=IfncbQh3aqgA:10 a=tOnwS5-cS8YA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=JHWqwNXN8Di6H5CoN_4A:9 a=CTNb2jEkTs24RmMl7rh9ygGSxAUA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:10:15 +0000 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Peter Harrison List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:40 -0000 Kevin, Sorry for top posting - my phone makes it awkward. I hadn't thought of running a Windows vm. Do you think that would work as a = vm on the server with a connection via RDP? Disappointing that the tools are so Windows-centric. Happy to consider Xen = - is that harder to deploy though? Thanks, Peter. -original message- Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... From: Kevin Wilcox Date: 23/01/2011 22:46 On 23 January 2011 17:41, Peter Harrison = wrote: > I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. = What are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD = laptop? I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is = there a command line or X-Windows option for remotely management? I don't have SSH access to our ESX servers at work but I do have vSphere access. I've found that the easiest thing for me to do is to just keep a Windows VM via VirtualBox. Sadly, it looks like XenServer has the same issue - the really nice GUI is basically Windows only. At least Xen still has a rich CLI option, my understanding is that as VMWare does away with the = console, they're going GUI/Windows-management only. kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 17:16:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07634106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13A78FC18 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so1857942vws.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:16:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i5yXBfDy1ZCFFVKnFgscJYVlyvCvkjqQHlr1Sl4hxrw=; b=T02RYU3xcIsFWQX07su97a0DtdAUmIMVHAeJFEsmfGg8hThCoCXDjetj67yeixePPN MW8j/WmXIOBkzLVpyVns2oO95UXmef3S8BzW3nZIqYdRmxPOwlNo1UouTOLybA4ilfZ9 ruZHf2tSfigHsNiBQIMkj+zW9WTaxt9r4sgWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NKNTxqARyTbIltH5EJog1mmE0tttX0YOv/dLr+utCrStnipEEoitA3FCK/t4+bYvA9 VTYeER8FdKrUFLJFOGH629hqEd3NMblYecO2sfTuNFJLspUFVffdvUS6iSGiI9bsUkfE 0ban+XT1VQxjvilP7dDMdXQlLWsZBntB7uRUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.216.143 with SMTP id hi15mr4064411qcb.27.1295889364641; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:16:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F827@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> References: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F827@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:46:04 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: Graeme Dargie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 & FreeBSD 8.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:16:06 -0000 Oh man, I really liked your answer, thanks so much. I disabled all legacy options in the BIOS (SATA controller is in AHCI mode which I do not know what it is) and added this little ahci_load="YES" thing to /boot/loader.conf and now my hard drives are recognized as: (and changed fstab and of course after a few little errors in the boot process): ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada2: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada2: Command Queueing enabled ada2: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a I think it's good now. And the order of recognition of drives is the same as Linux (I mean ada0=sda ada1=sdb ada2=sdc). Is AHCI mode the best mode for SATA controller? (highest speed, utilizing all fancy features, ...) Good luck On 1/24/11, Graeme Dargie wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bahman Kahinpour [mailto:bahman.linux@gmail.com] > Sent: 24 January 2011 11:40 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 & > FreeBSD 8.1) > > Hello FreeBSD people all over the world, > > There is an onboard Intel SATA controller on Intel DH55HC motherboard. > I have tried FreeBSD version 7.3 and 8.1 on this motherboard, it > recognizes the SATA controller but recognizes the hard disk as IDE > devices. How can this happen? > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD mail.freebsdsystem.net 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Sun > Jan 23 19:28:28 IRST 2011 > root@mail.freebsdsystem.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 > $ dmesg | grep SATA > atapci1: port > 0xf090-0xf097,0xf080-0xf083,0xf070-0xf077,0xf060-0xf063,0xf020-0xf03f > mem 0xfe725000-0xfe7257ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 > ad8: 476940MB at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA > 3Gb/s > ad10: 476940MB at ata5-master UDMA100 > SATA 3Gb/s > ad12: 476940MB at ata6-master UDMA100 > SATA 3Gb/s > acd0: DVDR at ata7-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s > $ > > I did everything to prevent the FreeBSD kernel from recognizing the > hard drives as IDE. I turned off all IDE emulation options in the > BIOS. > > How can I fix that? > > Thanks > Bahman Kahinpour > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > This is very motherboard dependent, if your board supports AHCI, putting the > sata controller in to that mode will result in the drives starting as ada > rather than ad. You will also need to load the AHCI driver in > /etc/loader.conf ahci_load="YES" > > > ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA/ATAPI-7 SATA 2.x device > ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers > ada0: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada0: Native Command Queueing enabled > > I pulled that from one of my systems, the data drives are sata the boot disk > is IDE so for me changing to AHCI had no effect on the system booting, if > you boot from a SATA drive I suspect you might need to tweak fstab to allow > the system to boot correctly. > > Regards > > Graeme > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 17:08:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748771065694 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02478FC14 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110124170814.OZOB19887.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:08:14 +0000 Received: from [82.132.139.242] (helo=[10.124.72.161]) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PhPti-00061n-TJ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:08:14 +0000 From: "Peter Harrison" To: krad Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:09:13 +0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: i-default Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=IfncbQh3aqgA:10 a=tOnwS5-cS8YA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=HhzozNPfCIbFE1E_RfIA:9 a=DsNmx1Qmug6LLk5bU9sA:7 a=m9WWRZ6hDx33K1nTNi7fgft7mLsA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=OOVWesQKT47lQFf-:21 a=rVficswc47ADWdTn:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:19:41 +0000 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Peter Harrison List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:08:16 -0000 Krad, Sorry for top posting - my phone makes it awkward. Thanks - although I don't intend to admin this over the internet, just = within my home network. Are there any pre-built appliances specifically to = admin the host? Thanks again, Peter. -original message- Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... From: krad Date: 24/01/2011 10:22 On 23 January 2011 22:41, Peter Harrison = wrote: > Hello list, > > I've just started messing around with my new Proliant. I've installed = ESXi 4.1 and have a VM up and running with 8.2-RC2 using the (Windows only) = vSphere client. > > I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. = What are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD = laptop? I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is = there a command line or X-Windows option for remotely management? > > Any tips or suggestions gratefully receivied! > > TIA. > > > > Peter Harrison. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > There are command line tools for linux I believe, not sure if they will work on freebsd though. However what I have done on my esx is install a freebsd host, that has 2x virtual nics. One has a public ip and the other goes into the vmware management lan. I then enabled ssh on the esxi host. I can then get a shell and do all manner of wonderful things 8). The freebsd box provided the security for the esxi host by locking down access with pf and a limited number of = accts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 18:32:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8511065675 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp194.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923968FC1A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp49.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CC9E219055F for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp49.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 8C934190533 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:33 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.1.0.101012 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:29 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: FreeBSD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Running two daemon instances -- rc.d or not? Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Running two daemon instances -- rc.d or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:32:04 -0000 I need to set up a server with two instances of SphinxSearch searchd (listening on different ports, of course). What's a good way to do it? Copying /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sphinxsearch to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sphinxsearch2 and editing that doesn't feel very attractive. tnx tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 18:54:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D036106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEFC8FC12 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so2137188ewy.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:54:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FkQbZnE/JQSxqix8fMYZLRnFaLFG94ZtjKpHWBsL3jA=; b=QOzWSDBwRhg9GoMwuz8vjp41pVoql4u7w5wyLCxNxDyLaqFBrGJh/9lhsqUx6NTaJ1 oSilqqH6QW8uaiK/nSPq2muQsGH5HebJT8jCb1lHyANsuZNpnKM4fqGyZ47gcakI/cUE aTHZkH5rLP4Ro+cIFG6Pqwm1mwSr+uvFFvZos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OeRzGj4OP7RShoyEWcwgVGVtJpanFdsVPE0pNyFInFoHsXQEcok3EPtbjsMlXRuLbR WLwcgaAP6VjjT03gOfvOKioHHL6Fohl3Im43GMFHoxwZXqLIYkbg8u58fzpr1v1btVG5 PbfCOOgge6ci0pHG4PVVj/jPmRa90xCTqusk8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.17.193 with SMTP id j41mr4693068eej.38.1295894534271; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.48.75 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:42:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:42:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: Peter Harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Kevin Wilcox , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:54:29 -0000 loose ESucksXi and install XCP 1.0 and for management xencenter / openxencenter will run on FreeBSD, On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Peter Harrison wrote: > Kevin, > > Sorry for top posting - my phone makes it awkward. > > I hadn't thought of running a Windows vm. Do you think that would work as a > vm on the server with a connection via RDP? > > Disappointing that the tools are so Windows-centric. Happy to consider Xen > - is that harder to deploy though? > > Thanks, > > > Peter. > > -original message- > Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... > From: Kevin Wilcox > Date: 23/01/2011 22:46 > > On 23 January 2011 17:41, Peter Harrison > wrote: > > > I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. > What are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD > laptop? I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is > there a command line or X-Windows option for remotely management? > > I don't have SSH access to our ESX servers at work but I do have > vSphere access. I've found that the easiest thing for me to do is to > just keep a Windows VM via VirtualBox. > > Sadly, it looks like XenServer has the same issue - the really nice > GUI is basically Windows only. At least Xen still has a rich CLI > option, my understanding is that as VMWare does away with the console, > they're going GUI/Windows-management only. > > kmw > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 19:00:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A651106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46C3E8FC23 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5918 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2011 18:49:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jan 2011 18:49:59 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 771eKpfY6jz0 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:49:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 5902 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2011 18:49:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 24 Jan 2011 18:49:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4D3DC87E.1010400@blakemfg.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:44:14 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> <4D3D9CBC.7060700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4D3D9CBC.7060700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:00:04 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > On 01/25/11 01:14, Paul B Mahol wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:47 PM, John R. Levine wrote: >> >>>>> Is this a known problem? As far as I know, it's supposed to work. >>>>> >>>> How you change MAC address? With "ether" command? >>>> >>> # ifconfig em0 ether 01:17:a4:8f:04:5d >>> >> Well, if it does not work it can be driver bug. >> >> In iwn case try to set MAC address of iwn before creating wlan or >> you will need to set same MAC on wlanX and iwn. >> > Actually I can confirm that. I use lagg for failover, and I remember > now you have to set the 'real' interface to the MAC of the other lagg > member, not a 'psuedo-device' or it won't work. Same principle applies > here. > > HTH > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Ethernet MAC addresses are assigned by the manufacturer of the equipment. Each unit gets a unique address which generally can't be changed and shouldn't be changed. The manufacturer buys a block of addresses from the IEEE. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 19:01:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7291106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edgargvaldes@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EC68FC19 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so4422365iwn.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:01:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ot9bo8i16rxQBbYCKzMDuSRQeIilSAmW5kEB1YwQXV0=; b=hsO9YFhB6mkj58Tn2U9Q+Bjotnf8Yy28IQm2ecplGkNCN773bi43R9xzgJHlT5fGCU wqjePVCk3b/vuJDVWgWYLtKbfet7u3/IZJCO/eL6O5f9BZOw6ZC2XeHZfyfqj4haPPoV 3duID8NlJ2VEbIl1/qRXrn/QrxEOoXqNKsdDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wU2cRqiWYb/6Z3LG6M4j31368cF2dcpBZlU8asvUXxYLD98UlQ+OzS/8O8Xbia5FNn 3mWFEVqP1gfiN6ch+OVehqdWEK0BLaGVvLJD9O4GXrB5g9B9eDqjpHc29w/lVO3N1QnO m0kt17P4NOuiKuhZ3Xh2a1KmohdN/NCO16FeQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.31.4 with SMTP id w4mr5214717ibc.140.1295893976859; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.146.144 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:32:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:32:56 -0800 Message-ID: From: Edgar Valdes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Apache22 Roadblock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:01:06 -0000 Hello everyone. Having a good head scratchier this morning. This morning I powercycled the server only to find that apache would no longer start. mind you this server was put together last week and was running without issue over the weekend. the only thing that had changed was the ip. so I did what anyone else would of done when apache does not start: #apachectl start >/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started Huh... ok... So next thing to do is to check the error logs: >tail /var/log/httpd-error.log >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/zlib.so: Undefined symbol "OnUpdateInt" It's at this point I'm stuck at. Been googling around for the past 2 hours and have not found anything specific to this problem. Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Regards, Edgar V. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 19:33:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CAA106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98F78FC14 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0OJXSuQ059883 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:33:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p0OJXSbk059882 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:33:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:33:28 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, NO_DNS_FOR_FROM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:33:36 -0000 oKay, since my prev question caught no wixards, how about looking at the errors from bind-9.3.6? [I rebuilt this from the src tarball; it finally installed; I fixed some obvious errors, but several remain. Here is the log file where bind9 fails on "em0", my NIC in my server. This is one failure that is simply over my head. +++ Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: running +++ Can anybody explain why (eg) the lo0 failed or was ignored. And why bind9--now offically at its EOLife--has trouble creating an IPv4 interface with my NIC, em0? Do I have to do some very simple? like rebooting? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 19:45:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D6B106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout021.mac.com (asmtpout021.mac.com [17.148.16.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D148FC0C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:45:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp021.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LFJ00EN3LJLIAJ0@asmtp021.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:45:22 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-24_08:2011-01-24, 2011-01-24, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101240125 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4D3DC87E.1010400@blakemfg.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:45:21 -0800 Message-id: <68D41D76-35A9-447F-BB6F-6822E3B05589@mac.com> References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> <4D3D9CBC.7060700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4D3DC87E.1010400@blakemfg.com> To: Fred X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:45:39 -0000 On Jan 24, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Fred wrote: > Ethernet MAC addresses are assigned by the manufacturer of the equipment. Each unit gets a unique address which generally can't be changed and shouldn't be changed. The manufacturer buys a block of addresses from the IEEE. Yes, although folks can set the locally administered bit in the 6-byte MAC address instead of using globally administered addresses & vendor-assigned blocks from IEEE OUI... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 19:46:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DFD1065672 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691F78FC17 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10027166; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:46:01 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10027161 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:45:41 -0500 Message-ID: <4D3DD6E5.1050507@radel.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:45:41 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000401040609000507020406" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:46:02 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000401040609000507020406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/24/11 2:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > oKay, since my prev question caught no wixards, how about looking at > the errors from bind-9.3.6? [I rebuilt this from the src tarball; it > finally installed; I fixed some obvious errors, but several remain. > > Here is the log file where bind9 fails on "em0", my NIC in my server. > This is one failure that is simply over my head. > > +++ > > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c /var/name= d/etc/namedb/named.conf > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: add= ress in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed;= interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: add= ress in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed;= interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.= 0.1#953: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel ::1#95= 3: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: add= ress in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed;= interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: add= ress in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed;= interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: running > +++ > > Can anybody explain why (eg) the lo0 failed or was ignored. And > why bind9--now offically at its EOLife--has trouble creating an > IPv4 interface with my NIC, em0? Do I have to do some very simple? > like rebooting? > It appears to be complaining that you're already running another piece=20 of software that is listening on all those ports. I'd be guessing another copy of bind. Try: ps uxwwa | grep named and see what all is running. If you're dealing with a bind from base=20 and bind from ports I could see you trying to start both of them. Do you have named files in both=20 /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d? --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms000401040609000507020406-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 19:49:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFB6106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B758FC1A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so1956688vws.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=fCWIO/r11XYlmMWmAsK0uM3p9ozVG3iXxgvQ6z4QtBc=; b=GisRNAJHwIHLwM2VFgvPYgCRn5xaz7XF3b7Ew563f6c4fgxrghkkBmBk8XPjus7Rns maz/uN0f4/aavbqaqnAh/KeOa8CEwtXRMEE8Ert2pq+G2614BRxUCGsT84XdF9CzCVFd u/pPAkPo5LJU0CvwambWh/51RVciFHj4H1cCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=JW0dL1oMSX1O/EbKhNEDsw6dQ9OSzlf2Gh3KwDo0Xo1mR5acMqJkW6Im9Nzeg58x3x mncR8umAyOB0PLc6Fs/ZlYsub83bIYK0d7GDNgEt1znXy+81A1UTKP1f9qMIOhtPREM+ YrIpkJUs7C+WwLok1Anqj9pcDgApUeMFI9FAE= Received: by 10.229.95.81 with SMTP id c17mr4149567qcn.99.1295898587360; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:48:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:48:46 +0300 Message-ID: To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:49:48 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > oKay, since my prev question caught no wixards, how about looking at > the errors from bind-9.3.6? [I rebuilt this from the src tarball; it > finally installed; I fixed some obvious errors, but several remain. > > Here is the log file where bind9 fails on "em0", my NIC in my > server. > This is one failure that is simply over my head. > > +++ > > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c > /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel > 127.0.0.1#953: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: > address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: running > +++ > > Can anybody explain why (eg) the lo0 failed or was ignored. And > why bind9--now offically at its EOLife--has trouble creating an > IPv4 interface with my NIC, em0? Do I have to do some very simple? > like rebooting? > > You already have another instance of Bind running, so you cannot have TWO !!! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 20:02:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB208106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jarrod.sl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C32A8FC1A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi1 with SMTP id 1so876588pxi.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:02:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fp8IUXaK87MjYNLUlSQn/X4EU541dfVgCy2Jy+OZsag=; b=TK/MWEYyu64R70ip+Qg64bRhSGqcmXwYqcSqJbwSZhucZfKlaVCPzWPaxVlIXy1jEN Jx2Wy1jpClhXQq+zmztZsX45NM7TEGFUT16QH3cxnj7OchdFqFOn1d/gSUAy57BfkUip ABENplnvU5gBTY4K7aOR2Z5uSFfO3kUJwSF2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vm40FDMxgi4USr50aKHgidzFFr1a0aPjfhW/CW92GrGBKm/8prFgfScN125FB4BcF3 3Io4ablgSeLy1U5mWsvao8ZFuq+mkAQtLNn8BqCTDC8pX/ZxpsIAdVcKw5Ps5+jQavMC yEcBPiG9aBIabe1VkuJKCE10hes3CsjEnyYDw= Received: by 10.142.172.21 with SMTP id u21mr1913735wfe.339.1295898007766; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from jarrod-slicks-macbook.local ([206.123.101.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y42sm17816915wfd.10.2011.01.24.11.39.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:39:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D3DD582.6040004@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:39:46 -0700 From: Jarrod Slick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:02:51 -0000 On 1/24/11 12:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > oKay, since my prev question caught no wixards, how about looking at > the errors from bind-9.3.6? [I rebuilt this from the src tarball; it > finally installed; I fixed some obvious errors, but several remain. > > Here is the log file where bind9 fails on "em0", my NIC in my server. > This is one failure that is simply over my head. > > +++ > > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: running > +++ > > Can anybody explain why (eg) the lo0 failed or was ignored. And > why bind9--now offically at its EOLife--has trouble creating an > IPv4 interface with my NIC, em0? Do I have to do some very simple? > like rebooting? > > > > > I think the issue probably lies in the "address in use" part of your error output. Try a sockstat/netstat to see what's bound on port 953. If it's an old instance of bind, kill it and then try restarting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 20:08:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749AE1065670 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498388FC17 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8FC84E82090; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:08:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:08:23 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Edgar Valdes Message-ID: <20110124200823.GA24455@thought.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache22 Roadblock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:08:25 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:32:56AM -0800, Edgar Valdes wrote: > Hello everyone. > > Having a good head scratchier this morning. This morning I powercycled the > server only to find that apache would no longer start. mind you this server > was put together last week and was running without issue over the weekend. > the only thing that had changed was the ip. > > so I did what anyone else would of done when apache does not start: > #apachectl start > >/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started > > Huh... ok... So next thing to do is to check the error logs: > >tail /var/log/httpd-error.log > >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/zlib.so: Undefined symbol > "OnUpdateInt" > > It's at this point I'm stuck at. Been googling around for the past 2 hours > and have not found anything specific to this problem. Can anyone point me in > the right direction please? > > > Regards, > > Edgar V. Bear in mind this caveat: that I have been having and still Am having a series of networking [and releated] problems. Taking this a bit further, my experience has been that one's web server and DNS stuff are the bane of existance. That's just the blunt truth when you run a high-end OS like FBSD. Okay, off-soapbox. The first place you should check is php5-extensions. Do a ``# make config'' and checkmark zlib.so [or similar]. Build and install this extensions port and check the initiations [.ini] file in /usr/local/etc/php/ to be sure it lists zlib.so; then reboot. Better to let the system re-init everything from scratch. good luck!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 20:13:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E503106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E53F8FC15 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1PhSnC-0006tX-Cf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:13:38 +0000 Received: from [94.168.170.153] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PhSnA-0003Vb-OX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:13:36 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:13:36 -0000 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F828@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 In-Reply-To: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Jon Radel (sorry no other way to do this) Thread-Index: Acu7/avZ9nauc+/YT9mtAqk48Xkr9AABEC5g References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> From: "Graeme Dargie" To: Subject: Jon Radel (sorry no other way to do this) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:13:40 -0000 Now I know I am going to get hung out to dry on this one, but I am having a problem with Jon Radel and his encrypted mails to this list. I cannot open them, I cannot get his address from the mail to talk to him directly, or get the address so I can filter it. Yes it is not the end of the world, but the possibility does exist he is saying something useful, if only I could see it. I have no other problems at all with emails from anyone else.=20 If anyone has any useful advice off list please. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 20:23:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3001065672 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FD38FC0A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:23:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LFJ001BNNB4GX80@asmtp026.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:23:29 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-24_09:2011-01-24, 2011-01-24, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1101240132 From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:23:28 -0800 Message-id: <64E7C15B-F13C-4750-AB70-554BDA9C19BE@mac.com> To: Graeme Dargie X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jon Radel (sorry no other way to do this) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:23:40 -0000 On Jan 24, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Graeme Dargie wrote: > Now I know I am going to get hung out to dry on this one, but I am > having a problem with Jon Radel and his encrypted mails to this list. I > cannot open them, I cannot get his address from the mail to talk to him > directly, or get the address so I can filter it. Yes it is not the end > of the world, but the possibility does exist he is saying something > useful, if only I could see it. His address is Jon Radel , and is using S/MIME plugin to Mozilla Thunderbird. You should be able to view the text portion just fine, even if your MUA doesn't understand the smime.p7s attachment. I gather you're using Outlook, perhaps it's having problems? Regards, -- -Chuck Return-path: Received: from smtpin129-bge351000 ([10.150.68.129]) by ms301.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 64bit)) with ESMTP id <0KE8003XMSL590H0@ms301.mac.com> for cswiger@mac.com; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:00:41 -0800 (PST) Original-recipient: rfc822;cswiger@mac.com Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([69.147.83.53]) by smtpin129.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 4 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KE800LADSL5KS00@smtpin129.mac.com> for cswiger@mac.com (ORCPT cswiger@mac.com); Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:00:41 -0800 (PST) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAUA= Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8421A9660; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:00:29 +0000 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED851065717; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:00:29 +0000 Delivered-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CFB1065672 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:00:14 +0000 (UTC envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5133A8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:00:14 +0000 (UTC envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8332562; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:00:13 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8332559; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:00:08 -0500 Message-id: <4981E097.4060705@radel.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:00:07 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: utisoft@gmail.com References: In-reply-to: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=------------ms000605000401000906080501 X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail DNS strangeness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-to: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000605000401000906080501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Rees wrote: > For about four days now, I've had these emails stuck in my mailqueue, > and I don't understand what the problem is. Sure it says it has a DNS > failure, but what does it mean? > > > Jan 29 16:03:19 amnesiac sm-mta[38492]: n0RM2Hlj021695: to=<******>, > ctladdr= (80/80), delay=1+18:01:02, > xdelay=00:00:14, mailer=esmtp, pri=8221553, > relay=mail2.ukrhosting.com. [91.196.0.5], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: > 451 DNS temporary failure (#4.3.0) > > > I've disabled the firewall, I have a known working named on localhost, > and resolv.conf is pointing to localhost. Any ideas? Too much sanitation makes it hard to figure out your problem. 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15:31:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:31:01 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Chuck Swiger Message-Id: <20110124153101.ee447aba.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <64E7C15B-F13C-4750-AB70-554BDA9C19BE@mac.com> References: <64E7C15B-F13C-4750-AB70-554BDA9C19BE@mac.com> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Graeme Dargie Subject: Re: Jon Radel (sorry no other way to do this) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:31:04 -0000 In response to Chuck Swiger : > On Jan 24, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Graeme Dargie wrote: > > Now I know I am going to get hung out to dry on this one, but I am > > having a problem with Jon Radel and his encrypted mails to this list. I > > cannot open them, I cannot get his address from the mail to talk to him > > directly, or get the address so I can filter it. Yes it is not the end > > of the world, but the possibility does exist he is saying something > > useful, if only I could see it. > > His address is Jon Radel , and is using S/MIME plugin to Mozilla Thunderbird. > > You should be able to view the text portion just fine, even if your MUA doesn't understand the smime.p7s attachment. I gather you're using Outlook, perhaps it's having problems? Furthermore, Jon's emails are not encrypted, they're simply cryptographically signed. Don't know what your MUA thinks it's doing, but it's doing wrong by you. If you can find a setting to frob to get your MUA to display at text instead of thinking so hard, you'll be able to read Jon's emails. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 20:40:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE32D1065702 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E598FC20 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so2225607ewy.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:40:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.11.147 with SMTP id 19mr4910069eex.14.1295901496421; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.47.66 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:16 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.150] In-Reply-To: References: <16949_1294438428_4D27901C_16949_495_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF9102@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:38:16 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: which syslog??? (rsyslog? syslog-ng? or default?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:40:16 -0000 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:52 PM, krad wrote: > Ive used syslog-ng for central logging in the past. It support tcp, > encryption and logging to a db. To be honest though the most useful feature > was that you can expand log files paths to include the date and hostname. > This makes backing up of the files far more efficient as you dont have to > use newsyslog to rotate them, which is a good thing for backups especially > if you use rsync I'm a bit late on this one, I know, but I also use syslog-ng. My favorite feature is the ability to split log files for different hosts into different directories. Very handy for centralized logging. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 20:48:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECFF1065693 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811118FC1D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0OKm5FU060324; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p0OKm4uj060323; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:48:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:48:04 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Jarrod Slick Message-ID: <20110124204804.GA60244@thought.org> References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> <4D3DD582.6040004@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3DD582.6040004@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, NO_DNS_FOR_FROM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:48:15 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:39:46PM -0700, Jarrod Slick wrote: > On 1/24/11 12:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > oKay, since my prev question caught no wixards, how about looking at > > the errors from bind-9.3.6? [I rebuilt this from the src tarball; it > > finally installed; I fixed some obvious errors, but several remain. > > > > Here is the log file where bind9 fails on "em0", my NIC in my server. > > This is one failure that is simply over my head. > > > >+++ > > > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c > >/var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel > >127.0.0.1#953: address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: running > >+++ > > > > Can anybody explain why (eg) the lo0 failed or was ignored. And > > why bind9--now offically at its EOLife--has trouble creating an > > IPv4 interface with my NIC, em0? Do I have to do some very simple? > > like rebooting? > > > > > > > > > > > I think the issue probably lies in the "address in use" part of your > error output. Try a sockstat/netstat to see what's bound on port 953. > If it's an old instance of bind, kill it and then try restarting. > HMMM: Here's what the log shows: --sorry for the overage; i cannot cut/paste here on ethic]. Looks like same thing. Jan 24 12:14:56 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 12:14:56 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 24 12:15:09 ethic root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x17f6 product 0x0709 bus uhub4 Jan 24 12:15:09 ethic kernel: ukbd1: on uhub4 Jan 24 12:15:09 ethic kernel: kbd3 at ukbd1 Jan 24 12:15:39 ethic sm-mta[60106]: p0OKD6D2060106: SYSERR(root): collect: I/O error on connection from mx2.freebsd.org, from= Jan 24 12:33:50 ethic ntpd[862]: kernel time sync status change 6001 Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: running > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:00:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80617106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFEC8FC15 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: David Southwell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/libsoup-2.32.2 Compile error _md5 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:00:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 1/21/11 1:59 PM, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Greg Larkin wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> Please post some compiler output with the error message here, and that >> might help someone troubleshoot the problem. >> >> > I ran portmaster -a again this morning *just* so I could reproduce this > error :D > > checking whether Python support is requested... checking whether > /usr/local/bin/python2.6 version >= 2.5... yes > checking for /usr/local/bin/python2.6 version... 2.6 > checking for /usr/local/bin/python2.6 platform... freebsd7 > checking for /usr/local/bin/python2.6 script directory... > ${prefix}/lib/python2.6/site-packages > checking for /usr/local/bin/python2.6 extension module directory... > ${exec_prefix}/lib/python2.6/site-packages > checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found > configure: error: Python headers not found > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from > "http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh", which will diagnose the > problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot > solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at > gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach (a) > "/usr/ports/devel/gobject-introspection/work/gobject-introspection-0.9.12/config.log", > (b) the output of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer > output. > Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages > installed > on your system (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any > website, copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use > send-pr(1) with the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the > mailing list (gnome@FreeBSD.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD > mailing > lists are usually discarded by the mailing list software. > *** Error code 1 Hi Chris, The config.log file should provide some clues, and from time to time, I have seen spurious problems occur in the configure phase during port building. It can be caused by a number of things, and the config.log file should provide clues. For instance, this looks suspect: > checking for /usr/local/bin/python2.6 script directory...${prefix}/lib/python2.6/site-packages > checking for /usr/local/bin/python2.6 extension module directory...${exec_prefix}/lib/python2.6/site-packages I'm not 100% sure, but I would expect ${prefix} and ${exec_prefix} to be replaced with /usr/local in each of those messages. That might indicate a misconfiguration in your build system or an error in the port. [...] > Like I said before, it's a similar issue relating to python, but I think > there are still larger implications here about the move from py25 to py26. I > followed /usr/ports/UPDATING first when it came to python and things still > took a hike on me. Now if I use either the portmaster or portupgrade options > mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING it still dies, on either devel/py-dbus > or devel/gobject-introspection, both with the same error, I followed the > instructions and gnomelogalyzer.sh wasn't all that helpful. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk096E0ACgkQ0sRouByUApB09ACgqr36hZJNUH+fefwOWRfO2FCb jL8AnA5W32p/OmSM9BiRCwmjJAHAKfCv =l3MD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:04:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02296106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jarrod.sl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471CD8FC0C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22so888643pvc.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:04:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hHlpTn2Fq2HxCMn6LFFV+Pj/ycEVj9aU1E8nNrl6AX4=; b=yC8TFgOe5udb5K6gtlx2YbnxneRud8UWGWqIOoshllNrtIzYLgzwgB/lPmIM6K+Tqo 4+wYvyC4c8zsfpaqQaiyEOvXXdo//l7dhaWKBD+vPCA++XkojL+j7IAcgxhlHWDrEu8P ZoRIyLFahRYGa2WLAGceiaWoMwgg8eZW0raKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cPWTt3WYgFgDXq7oBqt3ip78okZFjqM8oJodbQxzIMSsF+40uxNxx4REMmD2J7yXWq og2MBCilOHWsrmWqHuU8OXBvPMv1TQ2LSBiHI9rDueDWgxJ/Alm7L3YOc1adscbASkhI 0NZ1H7JNDbs70q3ygO77i5jrCUzNuQQCKGo3Y= Received: by 10.142.193.2 with SMTP id q2mr4298612wff.409.1295903050619; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from jarrod-slicks-macbook.local ([206.123.101.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x35sm17905946wfd.1.2011.01.24.13.03.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D3DE938.9000503@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:03:52 -0700 From: Jarrod Slick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> <4D3DD582.6040004@gmail.com> <20110124204804.GA60244@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110124204804.GA60244@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:04:12 -0000 On 1/24/11 1:48 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:39:46PM -0700, Jarrod Slick wrote: >> On 1/24/11 12:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >>> oKay, since my prev question caught no wixards, how about looking at >>> the errors from bind-9.3.6? [I rebuilt this from the src tarball; it >>> finally installed; I fixed some obvious errors, but several remain. >>> >>> Here is the log file where bind9 fails on "em0", my NIC in my server. >>> This is one failure that is simply over my head. >>> >>> +++ >>> >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c >>> /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: >>> address in use >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; >>> interface ignored >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: >>> address in use >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; >>> interface ignored >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel >>> 127.0.0.1#953: address in use >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: >>> address in use >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: >>> address in use >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; >>> interface ignored >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: >>> address in use >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; >>> interface ignored >>> Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: running >>> +++ >>> >>> Can anybody explain why (eg) the lo0 failed or was ignored. And >>> why bind9--now offically at its EOLife--has trouble creating an >>> IPv4 interface with my NIC, em0? Do I have to do some very simple? >>> like rebooting? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I think the issue probably lies in the "address in use" part of your >> error output. Try a sockstat/netstat to see what's bound on port 953. >> If it's an old instance of bind, kill it and then try restarting. >> > > HMMM: Here's what the log shows: > > --sorry for the overage; i cannot cut/paste here on ethic]. Looks like same > thing. > > > Jan 24 12:14:56 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 12:14:56 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces > Jan 24 12:15:09 ethic root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x17f6 product 0x0709 bus uhub4 > Jan 24 12:15:09 ethic kernel: ukbd1: on uhub4 > Jan 24 12:15:09 ethic kernel: kbd3 at ukbd1 > Jan 24 12:15:39 ethic sm-mta[60106]: p0OKD6D2060106: SYSERR(root): collect: I/O error on connection from mx2.freebsd.org, from= > Jan 24 12:33:50 ethic ntpd[862]: kernel time sync status change 6001 > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: not listening on any interfaces > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: address in use > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: could not listen on UDP socket: address in use > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored > Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: running > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Okay, but what exactly did you do? I guess my instruction to, "restart," was a bit ambiguous. I meant after killing whatever is running on port 953 you should restart __bind__, preferably by executing your desired binary manually, not the system itself. You may be executing two instances of bind at startup as another respondent suggested. To recap, see what's bound on port 953: netstat -ntpl | grep 953 kill whatever is bound on 953 (you should be able to get the pid from the netstat output) kill -9 start your desired named: /path/to/bind If that leaves you with a working named installation, remove the extraneous startup script and reboot to confirm that your issue is fixed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:10:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2472310656A3 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE578FC08 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0OLAleg060494; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:10:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p0OLAllV060493; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:10:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:10:47 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Jon Radel Message-ID: <20110124211046.GB60244@thought.org> References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> <4D3DD6E5.1050507@radel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3DD6E5.1050507@radel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:10:52 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 02:45:41PM -0500, Jon Radel wrote: > On 1/24/11 2:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > oKay, since my prev question caught no wixards, how about looking at > > the errors from bind-9.3.6? [I rebuilt this from the src tarball; it > > finally installed; I fixed some obvious errors, but several remain. > > > > Here is the log file where bind9 fails on "em0", my NIC in my server. > > This is one failure that is simply over my head. > > > >+++ > > > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c > >/var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: not listening on any interfaces > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel > >127.0.0.1#953: address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: couldn't add command channel ::1#953: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface em0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: could not listen on UDP socket: > >address in use > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > >interface ignored > >Jan 24 11:14:55 ethic named[59747]: running > >+++ > > > > Can anybody explain why (eg) the lo0 failed or was ignored. And > > why bind9--now offically at its EOLife--has trouble creating an > > IPv4 interface with my NIC, em0? Do I have to do some very simple? > > like rebooting? > > > > It appears to be complaining that you're already running another piece > of software that is listening > on all those ports. I'd be guessing another copy of bind. Try: > > ps uxwwa | grep named > > and see what all is running. If you're dealing with a bind from base > and bind from ports I could > see you trying to start both of them. Do you have named files in both > /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d? > > -- > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > > There is only one /etc/rc.d/named script; in fact, I have neven seen one from bind9-3 or bind9-7 [in /usr/local/etc/rc.d]. You're right about dup instances of named going! I'll kill9 and see what happens when i restart. Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 24 12:37:04 ethic named[60266]: running Jan 24 12:59:32 ethic named[60411]: starting BIND 9.3.6-P1 -c /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf Jan 24 12:59:32 ethic named[60411]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Jan 24 12:59:32 ethic named[60411]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Jan 24 12:59:32 ethic named[60411]: running You're good, Jon! Somebody mentioned this yesterday but i had already KILLED my named. Just by script. So, should I follow the FBSD tradition of: if it works, why upgrade? Or should I try buind97 again? .... tHe reason for all this caution is that bind97 output a trucloak of errors that well way the hell over my head. And I really do need UDP. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:11:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEF0106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4888FC25 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:11:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: p0OLBHP9003338 Received: from gkeramidas-glaptop.linux.gr (217-162-216-74.dynamic.hispeed.ch [217.162.216.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id p0OLBHP9003338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:11:33 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Worster References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:11:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Tom Worster's message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:29 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Running two daemon instances -- rc.d or not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:11:46 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:16:29 -0500, Tom Worster wrote: > I need to set up a server with two instances of SphinxSearch searchd > (listening on different ports, of course). > > What's a good way to do it? > > Copying /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sphinxsearch to > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sphinxsearch2 and editing that doesn't feel very > attractive. It should work, though. If it's "the simplest thing that could possible work"[1], why not go for it? [1] http://c2.com/xp/DoTheSimplestThingThatCouldPossiblyWork.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:13:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F3D106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E9D8FC16 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so4349635wwf.31 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:13:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=uOz+FHu2H8X5tVr4BtxZvXCfVhTSYZQfPFd8t7tKbzY=; b=ViYNJ0rnpDVTwX+jUqxmsrJ8LvzJSXRZEXV3R9YfuryEic0o+14cy5wdPE4guzwKTd QKM/ZfT9XlykcLon8AsWAwre8PEmkx17jJT1+xS96yUTN2R0DsNaM63d4USXS45GU7Bp gN9OE/Db3r7OVKdVxKuWvKga+VcEytwq7SSyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=k8Ht1fTO+Y8b2swbAqGabfqIatFs+Wc6ATVOUJyUpUB/wMUwpCT/d9GjG1wRFvk2wM W+uqehcyWCPWMwII+O8l592DyzbCtlZCw3ukHRQZU28GtGQMbdU4JlnOdMz/VJuhEzWA GDimKBZQMD6/uoW5EA713PCtveKpo0Bc1t4QQ= Received: by 10.227.183.198 with SMTP id ch6mr4992084wbb.227.1295902032622; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-25-222.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.25.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m13sm9573045wbz.9.2011.01.24.12.47.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:47:11 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor To: FreeBSD Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:46:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.4; amd64; ; ) References: <12db3210cd2.-2509072410058136592.-3952788888916668261@zoho.com> <20110124121821.107c2061@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110124075205.4632d037@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110124075205.4632d037@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1481622.SUHsuLPYD3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201101242247.01839.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Subject: Re: putting "/tmp" to memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:13:58 -0000 --nextPart1481622.SUHsuLPYD3 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 24 January 2011 14:52:05 Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:21 +0000 >=20 > RW articulated: > > I have > >=20 > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,size=3D4280000000 > >=20 > > I would suggest you don't use tmpmfs=3D"YES" in rc.conf unless you are > > being very conservative with a production server. tmpfs is nominally > > experimental, but it seems to be very stable, and it's much more > > memory efficient than md devices. >=20 > On a FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE, I have the following: >=20 > cat /etc/fstab | grep -i "tmpfs" > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,mode=3D01777 0 0 >=20 > It works very well and I have not noticed any problems whatsoever. I have noticed that editors/openoffice.org-3 will fail to build if /tmp is= =20 tmpfs. Other than that it has been stable for me. =20 --nextPart1481622.SUHsuLPYD3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk095UUACgkQUaaFgP9pFrIoAQCeI6FyEvNJPf0mB3OyooUPmuH6 4+8An1Mg/ueCfDpBB56PNyHwEvLyUxGg =Eu77 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1481622.SUHsuLPYD3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:26:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CBB106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D9D8FC0A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0OLQ4ra060641; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:26:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p0OLQ3Or060640; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:26:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:26:03 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20110124212603.GD60244@thought.org> References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:26:11 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:48:46PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > You already have another instance of Bind running, so you cannot have TWO > !!! Yes indeed. So, since things are working again, as before I did a blind upgrade, do I want to upgrade to bind97? --There were about triple the errors in the messages logfile. HMMmmm, what would you do? gary > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Damn!! -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:42:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC7D1065672 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward9.mail.yandex.net (forward9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C8D8FC16 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (smtp8.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.54]) by forward9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6A1B014D8399 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:42:54 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1295905374; bh=DyZUZ7+UZWv7MBlK5AErhYBwSOYfqDdJbi0U9hgGl8U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OKjM+mMOfly7wMj5o5TCsMcY2CwzWQNgqVayY368eT5y1IDEC5HAwLsFh2HW+ugIa rZoWOg9tPqkTchBS4ILNsyfrtnXq/1e+XiNxku9NrvGTRmeaJ6F9+qyMBxyzZ+4sQF gvrZ52mrvwUWvLSdiowzHxNF+VuNSoZc2bElh4Hg= Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.52.5]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 37186202809B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:42:54 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:42:55 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <193173521.20110124234255@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Mounting from (...) failed with error 19 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:42:56 -0000 Hi, Freebsd-questions. I try to make up my own LiveCD mkisofs -V FreeBSD -RJ -iso-level 3 -no-emul-boot -o bootcd.iso relesase I copy bootcd.iso to flash and install grub to flash. then boot from flash in GRUB: map (hd0,0)/iso/bootcd.iso (hd32) map --hook chainloader (hd32) boot press key lsdev shows that there is CD0 device. 'show' shows that currdev=cd0: and rootdev=cd0: 'boot' boot process starts system ....... Mounting from (...) failed with error 19 when I press '?' sign it show no CD0 device. It seems that memory device was destroyd by 'kernel' and on this stage 'mapped by grub to memory iso file' does not exists How can I fix it? I do not undestand what to write to 'vsf....' variables. -- , mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:44:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8493E106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087558FC12 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4140642bwz.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:44:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fOx4j2JtEqVv2/q/G5gdkeOc9vkcLAgEJkoHgKJZZNQ=; b=xVBg+/chenY/YWt+InhJBxYQmNmD8oyg+/Q/Ds9AIIt1UunLU+pxbrWEeSCsMvLvsB MOxQByXDQyMJR3GoClA/47jzXxE5zn4pILuR0Fh7LclDQBGyKc2y+qs+AL/uArRBxE4T 1okNtYMFQ1dNRL2JuFkoOf5KRhOM1SOhLotj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SjhyITEqtjdj5aF34jALu4u8HUXdxX8mNQTyCloHXw20H5M8aY/VkW+c654bTJMd2i BpTTR7Wl/+ZRuQejDB/CZq3l9nM/zwWVaVMv78TadZzaOPtr3dZu6giPTVXgAdV8NVVI 99Yg5K/33xfUGM7RJFwUbiwcpfYRb98zbwhPg= Received: by 10.204.104.15 with SMTP id m15mr4283245bko.108.1295905444757; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from limbo.lan ([193.33.173.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v25sm6417855bkt.6.2011.01.24.13.44.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:44:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D3DF2A1.8030403@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:44:01 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110119 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arthur Chance References: <4D3D7D0D.6090700@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <4D3D7D0D.6090700@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Virtualbox - no /dev/acd0 in VM even if it's booting from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:44:08 -0000 24.01.2011 15:22, Arthur Chance wrote: > I just upgraded to virtualbox-ose-3.2.12 (ditto the vbox kmod port), and > then tried to install a new VM. It booted from the CD fine but > sysinstall reported that it couldn't find a CD drive to install from. > Booting another VM that already existed showed the same problem - > /dev/ad0 exists but /dev/acd0 doesn't and there's no sign of it during > the device detection part of the boot. > > Anyone else seeing this problem? > > Details: > > The host machine is amd64, running 8.1-RELEASE-p2 GENERIC. > > The new VM is booting FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > > The old VM is running i386 8.1-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC, and can't see > /dev/acd0 regardless of whether or not an ISO is attached to it. VBoxManage showvminfo machine | grep Storage Most likely you are using ICH6 based IE controller. Try switching to PIIX4. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 21:57:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D635D106566B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBE58FC0C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxh35 with SMTP id 35so1540440yxh.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:57:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZSdKFLXgyXkvMUhSy8rJeuygUS6mQp/ETFkDjl5Jr04=; b=McANj6nrnfggeolEdrpy6tcqhi+OoaRlZjWbQnY4I7Q/oRJJUMgdsA4xEAmR5g8bLj 1gnmoA+wkrpe2tQ4kSTnmHWpRJn+Ty6EmKoFdqcAlLk2os6AMXwR8bYDPWKjgpo+WEkV tgJeYsPeqPnIg0uaXH4OG3UMth4zeDf6xx9nc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O6RbTn7rdgZJ+zDSI/Bd+fO7ZltNtKr1nC6dINZNnisy2KDsBm3GekAAdRGewKzxhe Qp9O3sQbTDDi0tJCl64RdnhNOtyxprz9nJ7s691sWLrzTQp3fGcUdPOrtSI/wkMokktH liCBqaMlFGeIX1NymfOBHYRL3n6nShDIXgf6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.72.5 with SMTP id u5mr5599290aga.114.1295904698786; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.79.10 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:31:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:31:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: Outback Dingo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Peter Harrison Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:57:53 -0000 On 24 January 2011 13:42, Outback Dingo wrote: > loose ESucksXi and install XCP 1.0 and for management xencenter / > =C2=A0openxencenter will run on FreeBSD, I wish I could recommend XCP and/or Xen to the average user but trying to install FreeBSD 8.1-amd64 in Xen, even running in HVM, doesn't come close to the "boot and go" ease of FreeBSD in VMWare products. That opinion may change once I get a template similar to the provided Linux templates but until then, as far as I'm concerned, Xen can't touch ESXi. I would *love* for someone like RootBSD, who specialises in FreeBSD on Xen, to come through with tips on how they get it to work so well. In a stock install, running in an HVM environment, I get boot failures approximately two-thirds of the time, *usually* right after the ACPI APIC TABLE line but it does vary. By "boot failure" I mean vCPU usage drops to 0% for at least 10 - 15 minutes before I give up and reboot. kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 22:06:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00907106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CFF8FC14 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so2268040eyf.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2AKdJfJ6reEGp8wZMM0eGr5cBMzdGZi48ZCp2cpEHhs=; b=T25FC12VFZ8WgSw0WPyBN0eP+04HC33RDVfEdHtfIoYqBMhP9y8A+FX7rq+hDClaTQ tXkfqxsWXZPLrbSTrtAfLZTVROKCgHYYDITGsrU+pbp+BXPTWvxYeqOUcwzRJJJEE01q d/iD5inKC49Ag42djOHYiF/MMd3dmfj6xM9Nc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uR/m0fnjI9GUMac/KPa3dE9UjcUXAVT7QHQs9WGkN0EUJG7jD4vHIMkMNKwI/UA5ER G/+dacZWHOpgXcLnx1VOb9G9jY1Rc3CTFGeMS5eZLbhsoHcYyTGg7vPWY7qARBjAAnHx +OvVoc1i/r0CcL2jYT7jjMOv0KITe7gRVjrHk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.10.208 with SMTP id 56mr4970606eev.31.1295906766381; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.48.75 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:06:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: Kevin Wilcox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Peter Harrison Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:06:09 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 24 January 2011 13:42, Outback Dingo wrote: > > > loose ESucksXi and install XCP 1.0 and for management xencenter / > > openxencenter will run on FreeBSD, > > I wish I could recommend XCP and/or Xen to the average user but trying > to install FreeBSD 8.1-amd64 in Xen, even running in HVM, doesn't come > close to the "boot and go" ease of FreeBSD in VMWare products. That > opinion may change once I get a template similar to the provided Linux > templates but until then, as far as I'm concerned, Xen can't touch > ESXi. > > I would *love* for someone like RootBSD, who specialises in FreeBSD on > Xen, to come through with tips on how they get it to work so well. In > a stock install, running in an HVM environment, I get boot failures > approximately two-thirds of the time, *usually* right after the ACPI > APIC TABLE line but it does vary. By "boot failure" I mean > vCPU usage drops to 0% for at least 10 - 15 minutes before I give up > and reboot. > > kmw > hrmmm thats strange, we simply uploaded the iso in xcp and created a VM in the UI, using the iso as install media pretty much the same as you would in VirtualBox or Vmware, odd you have had so many issues, ive been running FreeBSD under XEN since 6.2.... never had any issues getting it working, im sure though its dauting when you dont have a UI to manage it, though its also quite doable, but there is openxencenter now From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 22:27:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FB01065670 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311558FC16 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:37:09 -0500 From: "Michael J. Kearney" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:35:59 -0500 Thread-Topic: Apache22 Roadblock Thread-Index: Acu7+o9zJBNPGS81Qlu8QIEihv3CywAHCFe4AAAYgkQ= Message-ID: <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD23903EBA90F4284@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> References: , <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD23903EBA90F4282@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> In-Reply-To: <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD23903EBA90F4282@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Apache22 Roadblock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:27:52 -0000 ________________________________________ From: Michael J. Kearney Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:33 PM To: Edgar Valdes Subject: RE: Apache22 Roadblock could be the binary with the distribution .... apache installs in /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl lol I had the same problem ... Michael Kearney Computer Assistant mkearney@nvita.org http://www.nvita.org ________________________________________ From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.= org] On Behalf Of Edgar Valdes [edgargvaldes@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:32 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Apache22 Roadblock Hello everyone. Having a good head scratchier this morning. This morning I powercycled the server only to find that apache would no longer start. mind you this server was put together last week and was running without issue over the weekend. the only thing that had changed was the ip. so I did what anyone else would of done when apache does not start: #apachectl start >/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started Huh... ok... So next thing to do is to check the error logs: >tail /var/log/httpd-error.log >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/zlib.so: Undefined symbo= l "OnUpdateInt" It's at this point I'm stuck at. Been googling around for the past 2 hours and have not found anything specific to this problem. Can anyone point me i= n the right direction please? Regards, Edgar V. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 23:04:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388F5106566C for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34138FC08 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C799B5C44 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:11:11 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3E04B0.2070902@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:01:04 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apache22 Roadblock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:04:08 -0000 On 01/25/11 04:32, Edgar Valdes wrote: > Hello everyone. > > Having a good head scratchier this morning. This morning I powercycled the > server only to find that apache would no longer start. mind you this server > was put together last week and was running without issue over the weekend. > the only thing that had changed was the ip. > > so I did what anyone else would of done when apache does not start: > #apachectl start > >> /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start: httpd could not be started >> > Huh... ok... So next thing to do is to check the error logs: > >> tail /var/log/httpd-error.log >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/zlib.so: Undefined symbol >> > "OnUpdateInt" > > It's at this point I'm stuck at. Been googling around for the past 2 hours > and have not found anything specific to this problem. Can anyone point me in > the right direction please? > > > Regards, > > Edgar V. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > php-extensions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 23:05:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07862106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5ED8FC08 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so4631022wyf.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:05:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sn5iDXUArP7an8ZFpbPwv1xZzsOEiZ05t9MIDLw3xqM=; b=o4jCDHmWBZqVOH++LyWIjJIoWX9tl5JnCOKwZK+WKy1TL8Pfoc397nmL+Li5ELqyDv K+VV7AXryFifJ8is/QcN0Zp2NGHiTbWGlsO6/vNed48ArRMJ1VpDffilN4j7VPkLoQGa FOCVZrgZ21DrpQB9w+dtdVePZB3kPGB2g58p8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vfWwKH2q2O44DHG6HAqwskDgpAJJQ94SkAmlDs5bz/FYboRfKKMUpOJgFcHVvuxp8n sDUgdifHxAH4TYDf7ZmV3T9af3vWyzM6llWWMqp5ALmTPj9CZeuVCck58sNqTOoDMcAO EgXZzYF4RM4JMwrXXgG4gT3NAy7UDCBYiwN1A= Received: by 10.227.133.15 with SMTP id d15mr5096038wbt.76.1295910310441; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q18sm9667744wbe.5.2011.01.24.15.05.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:05:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:05:05 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110124230505.4764fd57@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <64E7C15B-F13C-4750-AB70-554BDA9C19BE@mac.com> References: <64E7C15B-F13C-4750-AB70-554BDA9C19BE@mac.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Jon Radel (sorry no other way to do this) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:05:12 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:23:28 -0800 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jan 24, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Graeme Dargie wrote: > > Now I know I am going to get hung out to dry on this one, but I am > > having a problem with Jon Radel and his encrypted mails to this > > list. I cannot open them, I cannot get his address from the mail to > > talk to him directly, or get the address so I can filter it. Yes it > > is not the end of the world, but the possibility does exist he is > > saying something useful, if only I could see it. > > His address is Jon Radel , and is using S/MIME plugin > to Mozilla Thunderbird. > > You should be able to view the text portion just fine, even if your > MUA doesn't understand the smime.p7s attachment. I gather you're > using Outlook, perhaps it's having problems? > It looks like the list has stripped the actual signature, but left the main Content-Type header unmodified, leaving the mime in an inconsistent state. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 23:06:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691B6106564A for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1678FC17 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52C65C45 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:13:12 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3E0529.8090404@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:03:05 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110123023834.19098.qmail@joyce.lan> <4D3D9CBC.7060700@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4D3DC87E.1010400@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: <4D3DC87E.1010400@blakemfg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:06:09 -0000 On 01/25/11 04:44, Fred wrote: > Da Rock wrote: >> On 01/25/11 01:14, Paul B Mahol wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:47 PM, John R. Levine wrote: >>>>>> Is this a known problem? As far as I know, it's supposed to work. >>>>> How you change MAC address? With "ether" command? >>>> # ifconfig em0 ether 01:17:a4:8f:04:5d >>> Well, if it does not work it can be driver bug. >>> >>> In iwn case try to set MAC address of iwn before creating wlan or >>> you will need to set same MAC on wlanX and iwn. >> Actually I can confirm that. I use lagg for failover, and I remember >> now you have to set the 'real' interface to the MAC of the other lagg >> member, not a 'psuedo-device' or it won't work. Same principle >> applies here. >> >> HTH >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > Ethernet MAC addresses are assigned by the manufacturer of the > equipment. Each unit gets a unique address which generally can't be > changed and shouldn't be changed. The manufacturer buys a block of > addresses from the IEEE. > > Best regards, > Fred Yes, but for lagg to work both adapters need the same MAC- otherwise routing wouldn't work properly (long story short). BTW, my wifi is iwn and I have had no trouble. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 23:21:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034C01065672 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1AD8FC1B for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8D95C44 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:28:46 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3E08CF.5050402@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:18:39 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110124193325.GA59781@thought.org> <20110124212603.GD60244@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110124212603.GD60244@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: questions on bind9-3.6-P1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:21:44 -0000 On 01/25/11 07:26, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:48:46PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> >> You already have another instance of Bind running, so you cannot have TWO >> !!! >> > > Yes indeed. So, since things are working again, as before I did a > blind upgrade, do I want to upgrade to bind97? --There were about > triple the errors in the messages logfile. HMMmmm, what would you do? > > gary > Gary, deinstall bind97 and run make config and install as base. It may solve the problem you're having. If you have 2 instances of named on the system it could be having a hissy fit and tying to load both. As far as I can see the rest of the errors can be resolved easily. I've only done a base install so I've never actually seen an error like this, but unless someone else can provide better insight I'd go with that :) If it all does fail in the long run (but I seriously doubt it) you only need to update your sources and rebuild world to return to bind9. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 00:07:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5DE106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D5378FC19 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3948 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jan 2011 00:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2011 00:07:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=HPJ2ponbLXm0nC5FlYWgKkbad4G3zbeSIlrt2nE9z8+nMW8/igJoBbo6GQa6WNTlmwDiTyDyuLhL+J7KqbI6XpAzQ54ZJ6S9fFtgkHvnxzssHB6RNDwTkxOqJZWbyLje; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PhWR6-00028w-Ix for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:07:05 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:57:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:57:40 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:07:06 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm running a two-core laptop that, once in a great while, shows approximately 250% CPU usage by a single process in top. How exactly does that work? Note: It's not entirely surprising that this particular process is consuming a lot of resources. It's just surprising to me that it's consuming more than CPUs * 100%. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEUEARECAAYFAk0+EfQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWA4ACVGQvNgv0WworFCAIF5S32h/r9 3gCfQDsKSgAf4ACq9ZEMVR1lXs9Oan8= =hzZd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 00:31:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598C2106566B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D128FC14 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so4716566iyb.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.32.11 with SMTP id a11mr5628796ibd.55.1295913789398; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:03:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.178.195 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:02:49 -0500 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: computer panics when wifi settings are touched. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:31:33 -0000 Recently I tried to connect to the same AP described in the following thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg238799.html It worked relatively well until now. Whenever I try to use ifconfig, wpa_supplicant, dhclient, or any related tool on the wlan0 interface it results in a system freeze. The only way to get out of this is to hard reset the computer - but I do not see the typical backtrace associated with a panic (even when X is not running). What debugging information is needed to help solve the problem? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 01:29:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6451A106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (lerwick.hopto.org [204.51.112.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14E08FC18 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 70675 invoked by uid 98); 25 Jan 2011 01:09:55 +0000 Received: from 81.187.141.93 by mailserver (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.96.1/11509. spamassassin: 3.3.1. Clear:RC:1(81.187.141.93):. Processed in 0.016084 secs); 25 Jan 2011 01:09:55 -0000 Received: from 93.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (81.187.141.93) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 25 Jan 2011 01:09:54 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> References: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:02:46 +0000 Message-ID: <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:29:37 -0000 On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 16:57 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > I'm running a two-core laptop that, once in a great while, shows > approximately 250% CPU usage by a single process in top. How exactly > does that work? > > Note: It's not entirely surprising that this particular process is > consuming a lot of resources. It's just surprising to me that it's > consuming more than CPUs * 100%. Hi Chad Its to do with top using weighted CPU percentage... for some reason this show peaks as more usage than 100% -- maybe something to do with the top averaging out over a specific time. I find that raw CPU mode gives a more accurate representation. raw mode is toggled by passing the -C argument to top. Regards Craig Butler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 01:30:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380FD10656A5 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mailoutltc.fnis.com (mailoutltc.fnis.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0451D8FC1B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SBHFISLREXT03 ([10.132.254.62]) by SCSFISLTC02 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0ONsI5N009772; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:54:18 -0600 Received: from SBHFISLTCGW04.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.123]) by SBHFISLREXT03 with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:54:51 -0600 Received: from [192.82.228.132] ([10.132.254.135]) by SBHFISLTCGW04.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:54:18 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: Frank Bonnet In-Reply-To: <4D3D87E3.2000708@esiee.fr> References: <4D3D87E3.2000708@esiee.fr> Organization: FIS Global, Inc. Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:51:00 -0800 Message-ID: <1295913060.14172.1.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2011 23:54:18.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[038E04A0:01CBBC22] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitions greater than 1TB ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:30:16 -0000 On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 15:08 +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > I'm trying to install a new server ( HP Proliant 380 G7 ) which has > a 2.5 TB RAID Array. > > It seems impossible to use the Freebsd sysinstall to partition this > raid array disks. Correct. Currently sysinstall can only perform MBR partitioning (partitions limited to 2TB max). You want GPT partitioning. See gpart(8) -- Devin > > I get an error message when running the partitionner > > Error mounting /mnt/dev/da1s1e on /mnt/.user : input/output error > > Anyone has infos about this problem ? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 02:00:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788B01065672 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546DE8FC0C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localdomain.local (24-158-157-74.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [24.158.157.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 742871B5D9 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4F2FB2844E; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:42:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:42:23 -0600 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:00:29 -0000 I have an encrypted partition, /dev/da0s1d. I can use geli attach da0s1d and obtain a device /dev/da0s1d.eli, which is a UFS filesystem. All that works just fine. I'd like to label /dev/da0s1d so that I don't have to refer to the exact drive number, etc., which might change if I reboot with a USB stick in the system or whatever. But glabel puts the label in the last sector, which is where GELI stores metadata. So, how do I make this work? -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 03:16:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63AD106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 801CC8FC14 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18427 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jan 2011 03:16:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2011 03:16:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=jQHiM6Y6LJLIyb8ZHSQ3hPnl43hD2D/cczVZfX1f4wLrbnNMXsV8Qkk4t6nBvogknq/jv1TlPuypODbkSo3O82RPN1ZpESYw6gfvKO71E55Hq1KdInq8+Rb7vgaDzSaG; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PhZOj-0001wN-MM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:16:50 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:07:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:07:25 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110125030725.GA62670@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:16:51 -0000 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 01:02:46AM +0000, Craig Butler wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 16:57 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > I'm running a two-core laptop that, once in a great while, shows > > approximately 250% CPU usage by a single process in top. How exactly > > does that work? > >=20 > > Note: It's not entirely surprising that this particular process is > > consuming a lot of resources. It's just surprising to me that it's > > consuming more than CPUs * 100%. >=20 > Hi Chad >=20 > Its to do with top using weighted CPU percentage... for some reason this > show peaks as more usage than 100% -- maybe something to do with the top > averaging out over a specific time. > I find that raw CPU mode gives a more accurate representation.=20 >=20 > raw mode is toggled by passing the -C argument to top. Do you have a reference to a relatively simple explanation of how that weighting works (and why)? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk0+Pm0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVCdgCgv9cvXg/TTYLhL7cmQfa3thnO bWIAoL1FfqVgBT3X4AeBmjdcc3TPUyBv =mPjG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 07:16:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1442A1065672 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47F58FC13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884975C44 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:23:56 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3E782F.5040203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:13:51 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Tracing packets - asterisk issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:16:54 -0000 I have been trying to get some pointers on my asterisk issues and I've only been hearing crickets chirping (Asterisk list and here). I need a pointer or two so I can fix this issue, so I'll try another angle. How do I trace IP packets across the network (pf firewall included)? And would it be possible to read it visually (human readable)? Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:00:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3BD106566C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1278FC12 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p0P80u5T022875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p0P80ueW022874; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA26352; Mon, 24 Jan 11 23:48:20 PST Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:47:21 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bahman.linux@gmail.com Message-Id: <4d3e8009.+rl5dhd0VYFFD+rx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F7897392904F827@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, arab@tangerine-army.co.uk Subject: Re: Onboard SATA Controller of Intel DH55HC Motherboard (FreeBSD 7.3 & FreeBSD 8.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:00:59 -0000 Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > Is AHCI mode the best mode for SATA controller? > (highest speed, utilizing all fancy features, ...) In general, probably yes, provided the combination of hardware and driver actually works properly _all_ the time :) AHCI is new enough that the occasional hardware erratum or driver bug might be more likely than with an older technology such as IDE or ATA. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:15:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB26D106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF368FC12 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0P8Frvi018530; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:15:54 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4D3E86B9.8090809@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:15:53 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101218 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <4D3E782F.5040203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4D3E782F.5040203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tracing packets - asterisk issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:15:57 -0000 On 01/25/11 07:13, Da Rock wrote: > I have been trying to get some pointers on my asterisk issues and I've > only been hearing crickets chirping (Asterisk list and here). I need a > pointer or two so I can fix this issue, so I'll try another angle. > > How do I trace IP packets across the network (pf firewall included)? And > would it be possible to read it visually (human readable)? 1: tcpdump on every machine the packets go through? 2: wireshark (in /usr/ports/net/wireshark). A very nice tool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 08:46:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0280106566B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44AD08FC1A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2011 08:46:09 -0000 Received: from adsl-193.79.107.89.tellas.gr (EHLO moby.local) [79.107.89.193] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2011 09:46:09 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19wV+A3pOhw80Uqf/652zKDw5a3hhspx2yDs242jU absNpvKpskF4iQ Message-ID: <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:45:52 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100313) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Porter Clark" References: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:46:12 -0000 J. Porter Clark wrote: > I have an encrypted partition, /dev/da0s1d. I can use geli > attach da0s1d and obtain a device /dev/da0s1d.eli, which is a > UFS filesystem. All that works just fine. > > I'd like to label /dev/da0s1d so that I don't have to refer to > the exact drive number, etc., which might change if I reboot > with a USB stick in the system or whatever. But glabel puts the > label in the last sector, which is where GELI stores metadata. You don't have to worry about this. geli uses the last sector for its metadata and creates a device with one sector less to its clients. The original device is 2048 sectors, the device geli provides is 2047 sectors: > moby# diskinfo /dev/md0 /dev/md0.eli > /dev/md0 512 1048576 2048 0 0 > /dev/md0.eli 512 1048064 2047 0 0 There is no way for the "internal" GEOM to mess with the "external's" metadata. > So, how do I make this work? > glabel apart from the generic device labeling, supports UFS labels which are *part* of the filesystem, that is, you *don't* have external metadata living in a sector outside the filesystem. Check tunefs manual page and specifically the -L option. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 09:00:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12656106566C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ibrahim.harrani@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49968FC15 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so5029607iwn.13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:00:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DU36+vLaoNNZKXKGUn+s6OCkq780chcM1/luACLpd4o=; b=p6ONHkGgyps4ZvQHFMQfbEXdGa01utf2ULJv0tK05SHXEOsbug6RK9gRnmxnHo8QPt /KBoKHiD7hsy84xXy+J+VgU+f8dvMyx/yBwK93DKDdXHpM1eN+9iWLiFksOYk47PO8R2 4gqdUdlC0u4OkVL0x3D1HqOLVTwtlkXll7e0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XCx3IdUaejpiV6RMReHV3wSVmJoP3BO4ng6gGIKYs7iYakAfUCPiFAj8vlNJxArB/6 NAVGttlUr13l7R788RwuzxVOGCnKZGeH1O4jy13zf+cJaHx7B6S6XIHjknrvPEHZuX6r cwaf7Lk/orEV2W/3RfmG5Y0bVcnGwyvLPTeXA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.178.68 with SMTP id bl4mr6235613icb.92.1295946011758; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.177.135 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:00:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:00:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: Ibrahim Harrani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Building FreeBSD virtual appliance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:00:14 -0000 Hello I would like to create a vm appliance based on FreeBSD 8 for Vmware enviroment. I would like to use vmware studio but it does not support FreeBSD. I can install FreeBSD in a usual way and export this virtual machine. But I am looking for alternative solutions. D you have any idea? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 09:05:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5E5106566B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from baywinds.org (dsl092-017-098.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF548FC1E for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.92.17.195] (rr-iii [66.92.17.195]) by baywinds.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id p0P8k2h7000428 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:46:04 -0800 Message-ID: <4D3E8DCA.1020304@baywinds.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:46:02 -0800 From: Bruce Ferrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125 SUSE/3.0.11 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3E782F.5040203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4D3E782F.5040203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Tracing packets - asterisk issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:05:48 -0000 On 01/24/2011 11:13 PM, Da Rock wrote: > I have been trying to get some pointers on my asterisk issues and I've > only been hearing crickets chirping (Asterisk list and here). I need a > pointer or two so I can fix this issue, so I'll try another angle. > > How do I trace IP packets across the network (pf firewall included)? > And would it be possible to read it visually (human readable)? > > Cheers Use tcpdump to do a capture file. something like this: tcpdump -i eth0 -n -s 1500 -w sip.cap then feed sip.cap to wireshark filter for SIP and observe the SIP conversation It's also possible to decode the RTP stream From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 10:00:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6A4106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E7F8FC08 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141E82DF1DF for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:00:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id EFCE6105441D for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:00:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC81105441A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:00:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D3E9F4D.1030608@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:00:45 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3D87E3.2000708@esiee.fr> <1295913060.14172.1.camel@dt.vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <1295913060.14172.1.camel@dt.vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Partitions greater than 1TB ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:00:48 -0000 It does the trick, thank you this could help http://romain.blogreen.org/Blog/Updating_FreeBSD_7_%28i386%29_to_8_%28amd= 64%29 On 01/25/2011 12:51 AM, Devin Teske wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 15:08 +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I'm trying to install a new server ( HP Proliant 380 G7 ) which has >> a 2.5 TB RAID Array. >> >> It seems impossible to use the Freebsd sysinstall to partition this >> raid array disks. > > Correct. Currently sysinstall can only perform MBR partitioning > (partitions limited to 2TB max). > > You want GPT partitioning. > > See gpart(8) > -- > Devin > > >> I get an error message when running the partitionner >> >> Error mounting /mnt/dev/da1s1e on /mnt/.user : input/output error >> >> Anyone has infos about this problem ? >> >> Thanks >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org" > > > _____________ > > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confide= ntial. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the mess= age and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message i= n any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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Thank you. > _____________ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" --=20 Frank BONNET 01.45.92.66.17 Service des Moyens Informatique Generaux ESIEE PARIS Cit=E9 Descartes / BP 99 93162 NOISY-LE-GRAND Cedex http://www.esiee.fr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 10:28:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8C6106566B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4912C8FC17 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0PASQ32020690; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:26 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4D3EA5CA.7060704@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:26 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101218 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Volodymyr Kostyrko References: <4D3D7D0D.6090700@qeng-ho.org> <4D3DF2A1.8030403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D3DF2A1.8030403@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Virtualbox - no /dev/acd0 in VM even if it's booting from CD [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:28 -0000 On 01/24/11 21:44, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > 24.01.2011 15:22, Arthur Chance wrote: >> I just upgraded to virtualbox-ose-3.2.12 (ditto the vbox kmod port), and >> then tried to install a new VM. It booted from the CD fine but >> sysinstall reported that it couldn't find a CD drive to install from. >> Booting another VM that already existed showed the same problem - >> /dev/ad0 exists but /dev/acd0 doesn't and there's no sign of it during >> the device detection part of the boot. >> >> Anyone else seeing this problem? [snip] > > VBoxManage showvminfo machine | grep Storage > > Most likely you are using ICH6 based IE controller. Try switching to PIIX4. That's fixed it. Many thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 10:35:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61F2106566B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.adams2009@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5B68FC0A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxh35 with SMTP id 35so1728111yxh.13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:35:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6TbnsOt54Zbq+U5VUloIpRNhCKZHzgr7MLDB6dYHquk=; b=fpP3vEVksr37E/RUtQMnL1Z4sKwrBOT8ar2ts8/dSVy0185qmkeFzxDFF6BJfYLtLZ Ymbb6CP8iISc3wa+jzPq7xRzErZc6J8eV1rYKIPRIitwaPlVwoGAyEgTw7FJUe5gsIbW 6nQ9c2Lx5ki1SOuauKX3VuLZM4iy5bKnum/E4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=L2cnLR1XXCtDtQ8NHQaxn3iRpKcwm8lSM6Yz+bfmrpwla42luO+koMt0bzj7fEGJ9m 5h5stlIT9798LIUCrzAVTZTgXE+Ce9wUQZciJCChQ8ujTqHbDErxIqdihNGyFBa8KU8B AHnaSunE0y4FqMORQeEV9Ul4eZ6NsNVyx7rhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.154.3 with SMTP id g3mr6155762ybo.239.1295951715923; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.137.6 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:35:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110123230837.GA43766@dereel.lemis.com> References: <20110121125125.7de151aa.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C1EBEF3-44BF-43C4-A654-9FF95103C5E2@transamtrucking.com> <20110123230837.GA43766@dereel.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:35:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: Michael Adams To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't open serial line /dev/cuaa0: no such file or direcotry (2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:35:18 -0000 Dear Greg, Thanks for your reply. I've avoided contacting you because I've been "doing my homework" in an attempt to get up to speed. However, I'm delighted to hear from you, and must congratulate you on your work with Tempcontrol. In fact, I've overcome the problem with port nomenclature in exactly the way you suggested, and the error no longer appears. I simply changed the value in .temperaturecontrolrc to /dev/cuad0. I do, however, have other problems with the programme: regardless of the values that I pass to endtemp, none of the solenoids are responding and I get no output on screen. May I discuss this with you further? Your program seems to be precisely what I need, but unlike you, my problem in chilly East Anglia is keeping the fermentation temperature up, not down, for most of the year! Regards, Michael Adams On 23 January 2011 23:08, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > [format recovered] > > On Friday, 21 January 2011 at 0:04:12 +0000, Mike Adams wrote: > > To whom it may concern: I'm using a programme called tempcontrol > > from Greg Lehey on a Dell pentium running BSD 6. > > Do you mean FreeBSD 6.x? I'm assuming so in the following. > FreeBSD 7.3 now. > > > When I run the programme, I get the above error. ls /dev shows that > > there is no cuaa0, only cuad0. I see that this was changed to > > standardize naming conventions. I've tried sh makedev cuaa0, but > > get the errorCan't open makedev: no such file or directory. > > makedev is obsolete. > > > I should be most grateful if someone can get me over this problem > > The device you're looking for is either /dev/ttyd0 or (probably) > /dev/cuad0. Quite possibly either would work. Set it in your > temperaturecontrolrc file. Let me know if it works, and I'll update > the sources. > > On Friday, 21 January 2011 at 12:51:25 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:04:12 +0000, Mike Adams > wrote: > > > >> I've tried sh makedev cuaa0, but get the errorCan't open > >> makedev: no such file or directory. > > > > I think "sh MAKEDEV" would be the correct call. > > From MAKEDEV(8): > > DESCRIPTION > The MAKEDEV script was deprecated by devfs(5) and removed from FreeBSD > after devfs(5) became mandatory. > > Basically, it can't work because the meaning of major and minor > numbers has changed. > > > You could try to add a line like > > > > link cuad0 cuaa0 > > > > to /etc/devfs.conf and then > > > > # /etc/rc.d/devfs restart > > That would be the wrong solution. Programs that come in source can be > modified, and in this case the program provides for alternative device > names. > > > but I may be possible that the program you're intending to use does > > require the "conventional" serial driver ... > > I'm not aware of any such program. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > This message is digitally signed. See > http://www.lemis.com/grog/email/signed-mail.php for more details. > If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read > http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 10:44:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9F71065670 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834818FC08 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (unknown [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105E55C44 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:51:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3EA8C4.2030204@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:41:08 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3E782F.5040203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4D3E8DCA.1020304@baywinds.org> In-Reply-To: <4D3E8DCA.1020304@baywinds.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Tracing packets - asterisk issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:44:10 -0000 On 01/25/11 18:46, Bruce Ferrell wrote: > On 01/24/2011 11:13 PM, Da Rock wrote: > >> I have been trying to get some pointers on my asterisk issues and I've >> only been hearing crickets chirping (Asterisk list and here). I need a >> pointer or two so I can fix this issue, so I'll try another angle. >> >> How do I trace IP packets across the network (pf firewall included)? >> And would it be possible to read it visually (human readable)? >> >> Cheers >> > Use tcpdump to do a capture file. something like this: > > tcpdump -i eth0 -n -s 1500 -w sip.cap > > then feed sip.cap to wireshark > > filter for SIP and observe the SIP conversation > > It's also possible to decode the RTP stream > I've been using tcpdump on the asterisk server and both interfaces of the firewall as well as the log interface. Unfortunately, its not giving me the answers I want so far. Follow a stream from beginning to end, so to speak, but I've been having trouble matching it up; especially with the log. Is it possible with wireshark to do this kind of matching if I capture on all these interfaces? Thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 11:33:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3411065693 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E7B8FC13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0PBXUmC021835; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:33:30 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4D3EB50A.5030803@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:33:30 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101218 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <4D3E782F.5040203@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4D3E8DCA.1020304@baywinds.org> <4D3EA8C4.2030204@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4D3EA8C4.2030204@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tracing packets - asterisk issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:33:32 -0000 On 01/25/11 10:41, Da Rock wrote: > On 01/25/11 18:46, Bruce Ferrell wrote: >> On 01/24/2011 11:13 PM, Da Rock wrote: >>> I have been trying to get some pointers on my asterisk issues and I've >>> only been hearing crickets chirping (Asterisk list and here). I need a >>> pointer or two so I can fix this issue, so I'll try another angle. >>> >>> How do I trace IP packets across the network (pf firewall included)? >>> And would it be possible to read it visually (human readable)? >>> >>> Cheers >> Use tcpdump to do a capture file. something like this: >> >> tcpdump -i eth0 -n -s 1500 -w sip.cap >> >> then feed sip.cap to wireshark >> >> filter for SIP and observe the SIP conversation >> >> It's also possible to decode the RTP stream > I've been using tcpdump on the asterisk server and both interfaces of > the firewall as well as the log interface. Unfortunately, its not giving > me the answers I want so far. Follow a stream from beginning to end, so > to speak, but I've been having trouble matching it up; especially with > the log. > > Is it possible with wireshark to do this kind of matching if I capture > on all these interfaces? From the wireshark manual page: INTERFACE MENU ITEMS File:Open File:Open Recent File:Merge Merge another capture file to the currently loaded one. The File:Merge dialog box allows the merge "Prepended", "Chronologically" or "Appended", relative to the already loaded one. Looks like doing a chronological merge is what you need. Your machines had better have the same idea of what the time is though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 13:27:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BAD1065672; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192658FC1A; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Phiw6-0001Ug-RP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:27:55 +0100 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0PDRwwr003541; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:27:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p0PDRwge003540; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:27:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:27:58 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110125132757.GA3479@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: Subject: snd_es137x && no recording from headset micro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:27:57 -0000 Hello, I run FreeBSD 8.x in a VMWare hosted on Win7. The VM presents the Intel HDA sound card of the laptop as AudioPCI ES1371-A and I have to use the driver snd_es137x(4) which works fine with only the problem that I can not manage to record from the headset micro. The headset micro works fine in Win7 and it switches between the laptop build-in micro and the headset micro on plug-in; as well while running FreeBSD before as host system on this laptop I could record from both micro (using the snd_hda(4) driver. The output of /dev/sndstat is: $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x2040 irq 16 kld snd_es137x [MPSAFE] (2p:4v/1r:4v channels duplex default) i.e. there is only pcm0 and no pcm1 (should it?) I also tried setting: # sysctl dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 # sysctl dev.pcm.0.rec.vchans=4 # sysctl hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 mixer(1) says: $ mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 85:85 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer line is currently set to 90:90 Mixer mic is currently set to 83:83 Mixer cd is currently set to 83:83 Mixer rec is currently set to 72:72 Mixer igain is currently set to 90:90 Mixer line1 is currently set to 83:83 Mixer phin is currently set to 86:86 Mixer video is currently set to 86:86 Recording source: mic and I tried changing to all available recording devices: $ mixer bla ... rec devices: vol, line, mic, cd, line1, phin, phout, video with no luck; any idea how could I record from headset micro? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 13:37:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E73106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED578FC13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785125C44 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:44:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3ED160.1010305@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:34:24 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110125132757.GA3479@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20110125132757.GA3479@current.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: snd_es137x && no recording from headset micro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:37:25 -0000 On 01/25/11 23:27, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I run FreeBSD 8.x in a VMWare hosted on Win7. The VM presents the Intel > HDA sound card of the laptop as AudioPCI ES1371-A and I have to use the driver > snd_es137x(4) which works fine with only the problem that I can not > manage to record from the headset micro. > > The headset micro works fine in Win7 and it switches between the laptop > build-in micro and the headset micro on plug-in; as well while running > FreeBSD before as host system on this laptop I could record from both micro (using the > snd_hda(4) driver. > > The output of /dev/sndstat is: > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x2040 irq 16 kld snd_es137x [MPSAFE] (2p:4v/1r:4v channels duplex default) > > i.e. there is only pcm0 and no pcm1 (should it?) > > I also tried setting: > > # sysctl dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 > # sysctl dev.pcm.0.rec.vchans=4 > # sysctl hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 > > mixer(1) says: > > $ mixer > Mixer vol is currently set to 85:85 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer line is currently set to 90:90 > Mixer mic is currently set to 83:83 > Mixer cd is currently set to 83:83 > Mixer rec is currently set to 72:72 > Mixer igain is currently set to 90:90 > Mixer line1 is currently set to 83:83 > Mixer phin is currently set to 86:86 > Mixer video is currently set to 86:86 > Recording source: mic > > and I tried changing to all available recording devices: > > $ mixer bla > ... > rec devices: vol, line, mic, cd, line1, phin, phout, video > > with no luck; any idea how could I record from headset micro? > > I can't remember too much from Winblow$, but can you tell if VMWare is using wdm? Could it be a case of hardware already in use? Alternatively, could the mixer settings be muted using wdm and the sound not coming through? HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 13:50:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68076106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitri@momus.net) Received: from na3sys009aog110.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog110.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF19C8FC08 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from source ([209.85.214.52]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob110.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTT7VPJ8D7uoa+P/PRF14R3LAv3Lk5lWU@postini.com; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:50:52 PST Received: by mail-bw0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 4so371663bwz.25 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.123.12 with SMTP id n12mr5028011bkr.174.1295961622619; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:20:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.232.3 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:20:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110125030725.GA62670@guilt.hydra> References: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> <20110125030725.GA62670@guilt.hydra> From: Dmitri Brengauz Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 06:20:02 -0700 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:50:53 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 01:02:46AM +0000, Craig Butler wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 16:57 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > I'm running a two-core laptop that, once in a great while, shows > > > approximately 250% CPU usage by a single process in top. How exactly > > > does that work? > > > > > > Note: It's not entirely surprising that this particular process is > > > consuming a lot of resources. It's just surprising to me that it's > > > consuming more than CPUs * 100%. > > > > Hi Chad > > > > Its to do with top using weighted CPU percentage... for some reason this > > show peaks as more usage than 100% -- maybe something to do with the top > > averaging out over a specific time. > > I find that raw CPU mode gives a more accurate representation. > > > > raw mode is toggled by passing the -C argument to top. > > Do you have a reference to a relatively simple explanation of how that > weighting works (and why)? > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > man 1 ps: %cpu The CPU utilization of the process; this is a decaying average over up to a minute of previous (real) time. Since the time base over which this is computed varies (since processes may be very young) it is possible for the sum of all %cpu fields to exceed 100%. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 14:07:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F9C106566C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604148FC13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localdomain.local (24-158-157-74.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [24.158.157.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8365B1B5D9 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:07:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F6A12844E; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:07:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:07:05 -0600 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110125140705.GA20041@auricle.charter.net> References: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:07:12 -0000 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:45:52AM +0200, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > J. Porter Clark wrote: > > I have an encrypted partition, /dev/da0s1d. I can use geli > > attach da0s1d and obtain a device /dev/da0s1d.eli, which is a > > UFS filesystem. All that works just fine. > > > > I'd like to label /dev/da0s1d so that I don't have to refer to > > the exact drive number, etc., which might change if I reboot > > with a USB stick in the system or whatever. But glabel puts the > > label in the last sector, which is where GELI stores metadata. > > You don't have to worry about this. geli uses the last sector for > its metadata and creates a device with one sector less to its clients. > The original device is 2048 sectors, the device geli provides is 2047 > sectors: > > moby# diskinfo /dev/md0 /dev/md0.eli > > /dev/md0 512 1048576 2048 0 0 > > /dev/md0.eli 512 1048064 2047 0 0 > > There is no way for the "internal" GEOM to mess with the "external's" > metadata. That's fine, but I want to label the "external" /dev/md0, not the "internal" /dev/md0.eli. What I eventually want to do is to "geli attach" the device using a name that doesn't depend on drive numbering. -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 14:29:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D581065672 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw5.surf-town.net (mail7.surf-town.net [212.97.132.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F64A8FC18 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 643351FE77; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:29:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD9F1FF6E; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:29:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw5.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw5.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw5.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cYz6MvxXrD0Q; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-4d80e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.132.158]) by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DD0EF1FF72; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:29:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D3EDE51.6070404@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:29:37 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110117 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Porter Clark" References: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> <20110125140705.GA20041@auricle.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <20110125140705.GA20041@auricle.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:29:48 -0000 2011-01-25 15:07, J. Porter Clark skrev: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:45:52AM +0200, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >> J. Porter Clark wrote: >>> I have an encrypted partition, /dev/da0s1d. I can use geli >>> attach da0s1d and obtain a device /dev/da0s1d.eli, which is a >>> UFS filesystem. All that works just fine. >>> >>> I'd like to label /dev/da0s1d so that I don't have to refer to >>> the exact drive number, etc., which might change if I reboot >>> with a USB stick in the system or whatever. But glabel puts the >>> label in the last sector, which is where GELI stores metadata. >> >> You don't have to worry about this. geli uses the last sector for >> its metadata and creates a device with one sector less to its clients. >> The original device is 2048 sectors, the device geli provides is 2047 >> sectors: >>> moby# diskinfo /dev/md0 /dev/md0.eli >>> /dev/md0 512 1048576 2048 0 0 >>> /dev/md0.eli 512 1048064 2047 0 0 >> >> There is no way for the "internal" GEOM to mess with the "external's" >> metadata. > > That's fine, but I want to label the "external" /dev/md0, not > the "internal" /dev/md0.eli. > > What I eventually want to do is to "geli attach" the device > using a name that doesn't depend on drive numbering. > Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. You need to first label da0s1d e.g. like so glabel label data da0s1d then geli init the labeled device e.g. like so geli init -l 256 -s 4096 label/data then geli attach label/data That will give you a device node called /dev/label/data.eli, that you can newfs and mount. Unfortunately, since you already encrypted da0s1d, you may have to back it up, and restore the data after you've redone it. I had this problem a few years ago, and I had to back up and restore, but perhaps it's been made simpler now? Though I doubt it. Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 15:06:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64461065670 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yurius.r@yandex.ru) Received: from forward3.mail.yandex.net (forward3.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A008FC18 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web59.yandex.ru (web59.yandex.ru [77.88.46.50]) by forward3.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6B66D56D8A6E; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:06:39 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1295967999; bh=ijR62B3/RSiQEYNNxBri6o/IAgWGwRPNF8R59Cyuxak=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=Ty/RLCvol/22p5yJYPycG+HZag6jV3Y+zseNzZETkmy294RqpAUZHygyfNNG5eSza o0jopjlqQqqwduEx68sanJ2q//TGzV6goNl6gzrxB/OhjQbMn7HHrtODhRPnYbLMNH o3vXt6bCuu1Lb7NhGgOT7Zjm84HvMFaop34yC8dw= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web59.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 58E9B59803B; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:06:39 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [194.50.169.22] ([194.50.169.22]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:06:38 +0300 From: Radomskiy Yuriy Envelope-From: yurius.r@yandex.ru To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: References: <998111295618056@web50.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <181471295967999@web59.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:06:38 +0200 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading a dozen of servers from 7.0 to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:06:42 -0000 Hello. Thank you and everyone who answered. I will share my experinece to the list when I walk my way throught the upgrade ) 21.01.2011, 17:13, "Odhiambo Washington" : > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Radomskiy Yuriy ; wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> I have around 15 servers running FreeBSD 7.0 across the country. >> I would like to upgrade them to 7.3 or even 8.1 using binary updates. >> They are primary mail servers all running apache-2.0 + php5-5.2.10, >> mysql-server-5.1, exim-4.69, dovecot-1.1 >> They are almost identical - they were identical a couple of years ago, but >> now they have some minor differences (soft, settings, scripts) >> Hardware is all the same. >> All the servers are in production. >> >> The steps I have to do and the questions about them i have: >> 1. update all soft to current versions (including change of config files) >> apache - goto v2.2 >> php - goto v5.3 >> mysql - stick with 5.1 >> exim - goto 4.73 >> dovecot - goto 1.2.16 >> q's: >> how can upgrading to apache 2.2 + php5.3 be done with minimal downtime? > > portupgrade -o lang/php52 lang/php5 > > That will upgrade your php from 5.2.10 to 5.2.17. Please stick with > php-5.2.x unless you are sure php-5.3 will not break some web apps you are > running. > > upgrade php-extensions the same way. > > can i upgrade or is it better to rebuild it from the scratch (because of > >> major version changes)? > > You can upgrade. Please follow the instructions from > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-7x-8x.txt > > Just note one thing I noticed while upgrading my servers: > > s/compat7x-`uname -m`-7.2.702000.200906.1.tbz/compat7x-`uname > -m`-7.3.703000.201008.tbz/g > >> 2. do a binary upgrade of OS according to handbook >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > > You can do that, but I personally prefer > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-7x-8x.txt. > I have never used freebsd-update on any system I run, but that is out of > choice, not any other reason! > >> 3. rebuil all the software again >> portupgrade -af > > If you follow > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-7x-8x.txt, > there will not be any urgency in doing portupgrade -af. .. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 18:13:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A35106566C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229B38FC13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localdomain.local (24-158-157-74.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [24.158.157.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 62B8F1B5D9 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:13:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6F43F2844E; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:13:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:13:39 -0600 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110125181339.GA21203@auricle.charter.net> References: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> <20110125140705.GA20041@auricle.charter.net> <4D3EDE51.6070404@lazlarlyricon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3EDE51.6070404@lazlarlyricon.com> Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:13:41 -0000 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:29:37PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > > Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. > You need to first label da0s1d > > e.g. like so > > glabel label data da0s1d > > then geli init the labeled device > > e.g. like so > > geli init -l 256 -s 4096 label/data Unfortunately, this step overwrites the label. If I try to repeat the glabel command, then the geli metadata is overwritten. > That will give you a device node called /dev/label/data.eli, that you > can newfs and mount. Unfortunately, since you already encrypted da0s1d, > you may have to back it up, and restore the data after you've redone it. > I had this problem a few years ago, and I had to back up and restore, > but perhaps it's been made simpler now? Though I doubt it. I think that this is the problem. -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 18:28:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD1D1065670 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9BE8FC1C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lenovo.syrec.org (tusclv-g1.tuscanylasvegas.com [216.241.48.231]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0PIQXm2000395; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4D3F165B.9090309@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:28:43 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101212 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul B Mahol References: <4D30F633.8000009@rawbw.com> <4D346A81.9080407@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ndis-based network driver fails to load at boot (8.2-PRERELEASE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:28:49 -0000 > Does reverting: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_usb.c.diff?r1=1.19.2.3;r2=1.19.2.4;f=h > > fixed problem? > Hi Paul, So did the find that this particular checkin caused the problem led to some resolution? Is it fixed now in 8.X or 9.X? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 18:29:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B371065674 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw18.surf-town.net (mail12.surf-town.net [212.97.132.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892618FC19 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw18.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C4A271A004; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:29:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw18.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142731A127; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:28:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw18.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw18.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw18.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bZ-+MBPLbGVx; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:28:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-4d80e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.132.158]) by mailgw18.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 113651A01D; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:28:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D3F1649.9000608@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:28:25 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110117 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Porter Clark" References: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> <20110125140705.GA20041@auricle.charter.net> <4D3EDE51.6070404@lazlarlyricon.com> <20110125181339.GA21203@auricle.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <20110125181339.GA21203@auricle.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:29:12 -0000 2011-01-25 19:13, J. Porter Clark skrev: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:29:37PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. >> You need to first label da0s1d >> >> e.g. like so >> >> glabel label data da0s1d >> >> then geli init the labeled device >> >> e.g. like so >> >> geli init -l 256 -s 4096 label/data > > Unfortunately, this step overwrites the label. It does not. I just tested it with a file backed md device, and hexdumped it after each step (creating the file, mdconfig it, label the md device and encrypting it). After the first two steps, I got just zeros, after labeling it, I got the last sector containing the label, and after encrypting it, I got the second last sector (i.e. the last sector of the labeled device) containing the eli data and the last secor still containing the label. If it does overwrite the label, you most likely specified the da0s1d to the geli init command. You need to specify label/data (replace "data" with the name you choose). If I try > to repeat the glabel command, then the geli metadata is > overwritten. > >> That will give you a device node called /dev/label/data.eli, that you >> can newfs and mount. Unfortunately, since you already encrypted da0s1d, >> you may have to back it up, and restore the data after you've redone it. >> I had this problem a few years ago, and I had to back up and restore, >> but perhaps it's been made simpler now? Though I doubt it. > > I think that this is the problem. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 18:37:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB37106564A for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D01E8FC13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localdomain.local (24-158-157-74.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [24.158.157.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2A891B5DA for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:37:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C6C992844E; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:37:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:37:09 -0600 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110125183709.GA22024@auricle.charter.net> References: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> <20110125140705.GA20041@auricle.charter.net> <4D3EDE51.6070404@lazlarlyricon.com> <20110125181339.GA21203@auricle.charter.net> <4D3F1649.9000608@lazlarlyricon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D3F1649.9000608@lazlarlyricon.com> Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:37:12 -0000 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 07:28:25PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > X-Spam-Level: > > 2011-01-25 19:13, J. Porter Clark skrev: > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:29:37PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > >> > >> Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. > >> You need to first label da0s1d > >> > >> e.g. like so > >> > >> glabel label data da0s1d > >> > >> then geli init the labeled device > >> > >> e.g. like so > >> > >> geli init -l 256 -s 4096 label/data > > > > Unfortunately, this step overwrites the label. > > It does not. I just tested it with a file backed md device, and > hexdumped it after each step (creating the file, mdconfig it, label the > md device and encrypting it). > After the first two steps, I got just zeros, after labeling it, I got > the last sector containing the label, and after encrypting it, I got the > second last sector (i.e. the last sector of the labeled device) > containing the eli data and the last secor still containing the label. > > If it does overwrite the label, you most likely specified the da0s1d to > the geli init command. You need to specify label/data (replace "data" > with the name you choose). Ah! That is, in fact, exactly what I did. I didn't realize that the glabeled device was actually shrunk by 1 sector. Thanks! -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 18:45:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABB4106566B for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 723698FC17 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15083 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jan 2011 18:45:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2011 18:45:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=hJICSWHBJEJfuLc0e/0yiqUa1OET07cpX2XYRTN3XF3X1Ia9r5+l2YDNZ6CIvupQd7vKiJ1zVWbcVkBchjH51o+8AxlnG7lp23Z+CBZYlqjbw296gYlKjA1LnFyon55V; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Phnth-0002Gy-LM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:45:46 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:36:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:36:19 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110125183619.GA65845@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> <20110125030725.GA62670@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:45:47 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 06:20:02AM -0700, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > Do you have a reference to a relatively simple explanation of how that > > weighting works (and why)? >=20 > man 1 ps: >=20 > %cpu The CPU utilization of the process; this is a decaying average > over up to a minute of previous (real) time. Since the time > base over which this is computed varies (since processes may be > very young) it is possible for the sum of all %cpu fields to > exceed 100%. Unfortunately, that doesn't explain why. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk0/GCMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVrXQCghfLZNdXR8GAqgeNLfFEVQ1Yo DUEAn1iTACPP4nze3PLEGBQ6+fQZytc0 =T7Ih -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 21:33:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6F81065673 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F1B8FC17 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C25739869 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:16:04 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 97R-318lCt7K for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:16:02 +0200 (EET) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id 8E15B3985C; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:16:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from 179.37.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee (179.37.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee [90.190.37.179]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:16:01 +0200 Message-ID: <20110125231601.208016q0mtd9ajdw@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:16:01 +0200 From: Toomas Aas To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 90.190.37.179 Cc: Subject: dhcpd does not log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:33:28 -0000 Hello! I have isc-dhcp41-server-4.1.2,1 installed on FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 and it is working well, except that it generates no log. In dhcpd.conf I have this line: log-facility local4; and in syslog.conf: local4.* /var/log/dhcpd The file /var/log/dhcpd exists with permissions 0600, owned by root. I have restarted dhcpd and syslogd and the entire server, but this has no effect. I have also tried removing the log-facility line from dhcpd.conf expecting that after restarting dhcpd the log messages appear in /var/log/messages, but they don't. dhcpd is running with these arguments, as seen by ps: /usr/local/sbin/dhcpd \ -q -cf /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf \ -lf /var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases \ -pf /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid \ -user dhcpd -group dhcpd -chroot /var/db/dhcpd em0 -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 25 23:54:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED9C106566C for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F1A8FC19 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0PNsOBh069779 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p0PNsOTt069778 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:54:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:54:24 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110125235413.GA69716@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: Streams fail, more/less. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:54:35 -0000 The _last_ thing that I need to resolve--or at least to understand, is why streams suddenly stopped working about two weeks ago. With all the other hassles, I didn't want to check and see if streams worked here on my server --they don't. The streams stall after a few seconds or a few minutes on my Ubuntu desktop. The youtube streams always worked before. No more. Meanwhile I have no trouble downloading source or packages at 110 to 170kpbs . But the streams fail: both audio and video. I have zero idea even where to begin looking to fix this problem. Anybody know? thanks in advance, gary PS: some audio will streams at very slow rate ... but usually stops after a few minutes. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 00:37:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98741065673 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw21.surf-town.net (mail6.surf-town.net [212.97.132.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800018FC0C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw21.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 2325643FD; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw21.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7BF4054 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw21.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw21.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw21.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vUaW+nyTrCrv for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-4d80e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.132.158]) by mailgw21.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 79EA2442E for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D3F6914.3000000@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:40 +0100 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110117 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110125014223.GA13385@auricle.charter.net> <4D3E8DC0.9060605@gmx.com> <20110125140705.GA20041@auricle.charter.net> <4D3EDE51.6070404@lazlarlyricon.com> <20110125181339.GA21203@auricle.charter.net> <4D3F1649.9000608@lazlarlyricon.com> <20110125183709.GA22024@auricle.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <20110125183709.GA22024@auricle.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to label a GELI device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:37:57 -0000 2011-01-25 19:37, J. Porter Clark skrev: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 07:28:25PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> X-Spam-Level: >> >> 2011-01-25 19:13, J. Porter Clark skrev: >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:29:37PM +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >>>> >>>> Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. >>>> You need to first label da0s1d >>>> >>>> e.g. like so >>>> >>>> glabel label data da0s1d >>>> >>>> then geli init the labeled device >>>> >>>> e.g. like so >>>> >>>> geli init -l 256 -s 4096 label/data >>> >>> Unfortunately, this step overwrites the label. >> >> It does not. I just tested it with a file backed md device, and >> hexdumped it after each step (creating the file, mdconfig it, label the >> md device and encrypting it). >> After the first two steps, I got just zeros, after labeling it, I got >> the last sector containing the label, and after encrypting it, I got the >> second last sector (i.e. the last sector of the labeled device) >> containing the eli data and the last secor still containing the label. >> >> If it does overwrite the label, you most likely specified the da0s1d to >> the geli init command. You need to specify label/data (replace "data" >> with the name you choose). > > Ah! That is, in fact, exactly what I did. I didn't realize > that the glabeled device was actually shrunk by 1 sector. > > Thanks! > You're welcome. Hope you got it working in the end. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 01:40:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3F01065670 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA80A8FC16 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7045C44 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:48:00 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:37:58 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gmake format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:40:56 -0000 You'll have to excuse my ignorance (and my curious mind...), but I can't seem to find a straight answer to this. I know linux uses gmake, and gmake is installed via ports on FreeBSD, but does that mean gmake will only create linux binaries using the abi compatibility? Is it possible to translate the Makefile to use make instead and build as a native binary instead? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 02:03:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35090106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit5.lizardhill.com (kermit5.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CEB8FC1B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip68-104-23-65.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.23.65] helo=Mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1PhtfE-000O8u-O5 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:55:12 -0800 From: "Don O'Neil" To: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:56:49 -0800 Message-ID: <065101cbbcf3$e9fb81c0$bdf28540$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acu88+nBKuKmLyD9Qw+41FZ6xfqdTg== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Best RAID setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:03:36 -0000 I'm getting ready to setup a new FreeBSD 8.1 64 bit server and wanted to know everyone's thoughts on which way to go. software RAID 5 (or 10) or hardware RAID 5 (or 10). I currently have a 3Ware card in one of my servers and it works great, but I haven't really been keeping up on what the latest RAID support is. How is the ZFS support these days? Is it production ready? What about hardware RAID, is there a compatibility list somewhere with what hardware (or pseudo hardware) RAID controllers are supported? I'm just looking for the most stable, and production ready RAID that can handle at least 1 TB disks and create volumes in the 3-4 TB range. Any thoughts, feedback, caveats, etc. are welcomed. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 02:05:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93420106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256D78FC08 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so453868wwf.31 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:05:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5SZfuJja8ySIwkedOXa8W193v9glbEoAlENUp3v5wMk=; b=amx+BU3PwBvXJ3JBNNr4vsNxeFBj6/m8w0B7r07ByNd0jO2vQEgrx1K/LK4LNb1JsK vbbajoGlEdn+BWu2Pr/5WM2nPQtYdM2qQat6J1oZibRbErwOlpFTZmzh/oHXW3bPPh3K KWwwdx50tURrV6kwUVdhUPWlFuoJF3Ul5yDW0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tbAN9DtjQI9enL08dEnyAS7ZnILujKLtxgM2Vi4tNKoJEfaP0nBy//goabFgXYIgqG b1ie8bOjuBaC1SrwRSn9tLhrrB0twftJj820F7i0ZKgBZvS048PGHQ8kzGMZOqbSPGuo qRK595D5JUlAAtT7CrG2fYupuTRUeWe0yliIc= Received: by 10.227.132.69 with SMTP id a5mr6745738wbt.123.1296007541936; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m13sm10582262wbz.21.2011.01.25.18.05.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:05:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:05:37 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110126020537.4b12345b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gmake format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:05:43 -0000 On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:37:58 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > You'll have to excuse my ignorance (and my curious mind...), but I > can't seem to find a straight answer to this. I know linux uses > gmake, and gmake is installed via ports on FreeBSD, but does that > mean gmake will only create linux binaries using the abi > compatibility? > No. Broadly speaking ports that build from source install native binaries, and binaries that use the linux ABI are installed by the port from linux binary packages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 02:13:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1AB106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457F58FC1B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7365C44 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:21:00 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3F82B2.8000802@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:10:58 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20110126020537.4b12345b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20110126020537.4b12345b@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gmake format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:13:56 -0000 On 01/26/11 12:05, RW wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:37:58 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > > >> You'll have to excuse my ignorance (and my curious mind...), but I >> can't seem to find a straight answer to this. I know linux uses >> gmake, and gmake is installed via ports on FreeBSD, but does that >> mean gmake will only create linux binaries using the abi >> compatibility? >> >> > No. > > Broadly speaking ports that build from source install native binaries, > and binaries that use the linux ABI are installed by the port from > linux binary packages. > > Ok, thanks guys. The clears up that question for me, but I'm still about as clear as mud on what I'm trying to achieve :) I am determined to succeed though... it won't beat me! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 02:18:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EEF106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898708FC08 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so5942424iyb.13 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:18:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IDLk9gabc0dT8z7qJlfPKBTxTIzK7tK3K3ubpSVQZqc=; b=NSUF02IUZD0uIpKI81wOrBOIEBsw3krtL210BIKRyASYQxLEJcJvnoFPA185niFCoY sYyivSS7f6ojTeJAOt/T/WxzwVPttMThk0B10ccX4MLARl1dOB+gtvr6Wej36aEAGq+S H2vlMsyEzK6CA/8+y0g6lql/tAvYT4bqe+3qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=K5hU3OXnQZlBWf6h8aDETbis9oZrniABxZxYEEyw1sgv2JCvx2L92kgiLIlVCkB3fI 6jTVRj9enCrUJTvZqyXCxKwgjqi2OhfiriRoMRYwImkpYkVQZWIiFkLQIUzxsJAeN52B 4fDzoYAGhxcsQWN+VLjfYf7iAoh2Rpfs2Eqgo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.224.3 with SMTP id im3mr7612469icb.341.1296006709986; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.174.68 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:51:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:51:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: APseudoUtopia To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmake format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:18:19 -0000 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Da Rock wrote: > You'll have to excuse my ignorance (and my curious mind...), but I can't > seem to find a straight answer to this. I know linux uses gmake, and gmake > is installed via ports on FreeBSD, but does that mean gmake will only create > linux binaries using the abi compatibility? > > Is it possible to translate the Makefile to use make instead and build as a > native binary instead? No, gmake can make binaries that work on freebsd. For example, the Atheme IRC services require gmake, not make on freebsd (at least, last I checked). It's just a difference in the format of the Makefile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 04:16:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97614106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1378FC14 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB435C44 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:23:36 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3F9F6F.9020603@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:13:35 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: include file not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:16:32 -0000 Ok, I'm here again... next question (same quest). FWIW this is about getting a l2tp vpn working for android connections. I have come across a carrier grade system called l2tpns which I'm trying to build to see if it will work. I've built libcli (but without clitest) and it has installed the header files under /usr/local/include. When I build l2tpns I get: gcc -Wall -Wformat-security -Wno-format-zero-length -g -O3 -I. -DLIBDIR='"/lib/l2tpns"' -DETCDIR='"/etc/l2tpns"' -DSTATISTICS -DSTAT_CALLS -DRINGBUFFER -DHAVE_EPOLL -DBGP -c -o arp.o arp.c In file included from arp.c:8: /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:88: error: field 'arp_pa' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:89: error: field 'arp_ha' has incomplete type In file included from arp.c:9: /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:96: error: field 'sin_addr' has incomplete type /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:97: error: field 'sin_srcaddr' has incomplete type In file included from arp.c:11: l2tpns.h:15:20: error: libcli.h: No such file or directory In file included from arp.c:11: l2tpns.h:772: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list l2tpns.h:772: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want l2tpns.h:773: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list l2tpns.h:774: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list l2tpns.h:797: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list arp.c:20: error: 'ETH_ALEN' undeclared here (not in a function) arp.c: In function 'sendarp': arp.c:29: error: storage size of 'sll' isn't known arp.c:54: error: 'PF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) arp.c:54: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once arp.c:54: error: for each function it appears in.) arp.c:54: error: 'ETH_P_RARP' undeclared (first use in this function) arp.c:57: error: 'AF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) arp.c:29: warning: unused variable 'sll' gmake: *** [arp.o] Error 1 Incidentally I changed the include in arp.c from linux/if_packet.h to netinet/if_ether.h. My problem lies in the file not found error for libcli.h, though. ls /usr/local/include shows libcli.h there as expected with the same permissions as the other header files there. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 04:22:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6834C1065674 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2ADD8FC13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDE35C44 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:29:44 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D3FA0DF.5080108@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:19:43 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3F9F6F.9020603@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4D3F9F6F.9020603@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: include file not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:22:41 -0000 On 01/26/11 14:13, Da Rock wrote: > Ok, I'm here again... next question (same quest). > > FWIW this is about getting a l2tp vpn working for android connections. > I have come across a carrier grade system called l2tpns which I'm > trying to build to see if it will work. > > I've built libcli (but without clitest) and it has installed the > header files under /usr/local/include. When I build l2tpns I get: > > gcc -Wall -Wformat-security -Wno-format-zero-length -g -O3 -I. > -DLIBDIR='"/lib/l2tpns"' -DETCDIR='"/etc/l2tpns"' -DSTATISTICS > -DSTAT_CALLS -DRINGBUFFER -DHAVE_EPOLL -DBGP -c -o arp.o arp.c > In file included from arp.c:8: > /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:88: error: field 'arp_pa' has incomplete type > /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:89: error: field 'arp_ha' has incomplete type > In file included from arp.c:9: > /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:96: error: field 'sin_addr' has > incomplete type > /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:97: error: field 'sin_srcaddr' has > incomplete type > In file included from arp.c:11: > l2tpns.h:15:20: error: libcli.h: No such file or directory > In file included from arp.c:11: > l2tpns.h:772: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list > l2tpns.h:772: warning: its scope is only this definition or > declaration, which is probably not what you want > l2tpns.h:773: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list > l2tpns.h:774: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list > l2tpns.h:797: warning: 'struct cli_def' declared inside parameter list > arp.c:20: error: 'ETH_ALEN' undeclared here (not in a function) > arp.c: In function 'sendarp': > arp.c:29: error: storage size of 'sll' isn't known > arp.c:54: error: 'PF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) > arp.c:54: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > arp.c:54: error: for each function it appears in.) > arp.c:54: error: 'ETH_P_RARP' undeclared (first use in this function) > arp.c:57: error: 'AF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) > arp.c:29: warning: unused variable 'sll' > gmake: *** [arp.o] Error 1 > > Incidentally I changed the include in arp.c from linux/if_packet.h to > netinet/if_ether.h. My problem lies in the file not found error for > libcli.h, though. ls /usr/local/include shows libcli.h there as > expected with the same permissions as the other header files there. > > Any ideas? Sorry- scratch that. My output now looks like: gcc -Wall -Wformat-security -Wno-format-zero-length -g -O3 -I. -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include -DLIBDIR='"/lib/l2tpns"' -DETCDIR='"/etc/l2tpns"' -DSTATISTICS -DSTAT_CALLS -DRINGBUFFER -DHAVE_EPOLL -DBGP -c -o arp.o arp.c In file included from arp.c:8: /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:88: error: field 'arp_pa' has incomplete type /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:89: error: field 'arp_ha' has incomplete type In file included from arp.c:9: /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:96: error: field 'sin_addr' has incomplete type /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:97: error: field 'sin_srcaddr' has incomplete type arp.c:20: error: 'ETH_ALEN' undeclared here (not in a function) arp.c: In function 'sendarp': arp.c:29: error: storage size of 'sll' isn't known arp.c:54: error: 'PF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) arp.c:54: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once arp.c:54: error: for each function it appears in.) arp.c:54: error: 'ETH_P_RARP' undeclared (first use in this function) arp.c:57: error: 'AF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) arp.c:29: warning: unused variable 'sll' gmake: *** [arp.o] Error 1 I'll try and work it out on my own, but if anyone wants to chip it'd be very welcome. Sorry for the cruft :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 06:49:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455DC1065670 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208748FC0C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08FCCE805A0; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:49:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:49:40 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Could any port be sucking up bandwidth? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:49:42 -0000 Guys, Before the 11th of January I was streaming both audio and video streams with little to zero wait time. In other words, I could stream about 50 minutes of audio with only a second or two of pause time delay [[AKA congestion]]. After that date there was a steep decline in streaming performance and I went at upgrading my server with a vengeance to see if that fixed things. Upgrading my 700 ports only led to other things breaking. I am wondering if anyone else in North America has a DSL connection and has seen the kind of degradation in performance after doing (something) to their FreeBSD servers. I have around 1Mb down and 864Kb up ... according to the telco. Any ideas will be much appreciated. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 07:22:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D65106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206E38FC15 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0Q7MHLI028757 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:22:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:22:17 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201101260722.p0Q7MHPR028756@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: REPOST: Re: help requested in fixing disk label mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:22:19 -0000 A few days ago, I posted here regarding damage resulting from a typing error and, a few minutes later, posted a followup to correct an error in my description of the problem. Thus far I've gotten no responses. In case the lack of response is simply due to the message having gotten lost in the flow, I'm reposting it below. I hope that someone who is more familiar with the details of bsdlabels and glabels can help me understand how to correct the problem because I'm loath at this point to embark upon an ill-informed trial- and-error experimentation program to recover label and file system(s). Scott ............................repost follows......................... I just wrote: > A couple of days ago, I reorganized the internal hard drive of my machine >to reclaim space that used to be occupied by another operating system for use >with my now exclusively FreeBSD system. I used a stand-alone partition manager >to edit the slices down to just two slices. I then attempted to bsdlabel the >first slice, but made a bit of a slip. When I should have typed > > bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > >I actually typed > > bsdlabel -w da0s1 > >Oops. > I went ahead with the work on the internal drive (ad0), and the system >is up and running fine. Now I'd like to try to fix the damage done to the >external drive that I relabeled by mistake. That drive's layout before the >damage was done was a single slice, divided into two partitions (da0s1 and ^^^^^ >da0s2), each of which was then glabel'ed. The moment I rewrote the bsdlabel ^^^^^ Yet another pair of mistakes on my part. Those should have said da0s1d and da0s1e. Sorry for any confusion. >for the first slice by mistake, the two partitions' entries in /dev/label >vanished, of course. I checked and discovered that the only external drive >for which I had not kept backup copies of the bsdlabel information was that >drive. :-( Fortunately, the full backups of the file systems that I needed >to reload onto the internal drive were in the first partition of the external >drive in question (used to be s1d, now s1a for the time being), so by mounting >/dev/da0s1a I still had full access to the file system containing the backups. > My hypothesis is if I can somehow rewrite a correct bsdlabel for the >affected slice, that the system will then recognize the glabel metadata for >the two partitions immediately, and the /dev/label entries will appear right >away like magic. Unfortunately, without a backup file of the bsdlabel >information, I'm unsure how to accomplish that. Is there some way that I can >discover the exact size in sectors of the first partition, so that I could >edit the bsdlabel information and redefine it as two partitions of the correct >sizes and offsets? Is there some field in dumpfs(8) output that would give me >what I need (allowing, of course, for the fact that the first partition >is actually one sector longer than anything dumpfs(8) would know about due to >the glabel metadata in the final sector of the partition)? Or is my hypothesis >stated above actually incorrect, and if so, why/how? > PLEASE send any replies to ME DIRECTLY (or at least Cc: me directly) >because I receive this list in digest form and am at least a week and a half >behind on my reading. :-} Thanks much in advance for any helpful ideas. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 07:39:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B9D106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BEB8FC0C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 07fa1g0030EPchoA47fq2u; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:39:50 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 07fo1g0051f6R9u8M7foB6; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:39:49 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:39:48 -0800 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:39:48 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110126073948.GF27690@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Cc: Subject: Re: Could any port be sucking up bandwidth? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:39:51 -0000 On Tue 25 Jan 2011 at 22:49:40 PST Gary Kline wrote: >Guys, > >Before the 11th of January I was streaming both audio and video >streams with little to zero wait time. In other words, I could >stream about 50 minutes of audio with only a second or two of pause >time delay [[AKA congestion]]. After that date there was a steep >decline in streaming performance and I went at upgrading my server >with a vengeance to see if that fixed things. Upgrading my 700 >ports only led to other things breaking. I am wondering if anyone >else in North America has a DSL connection and has seen the kind of >degradation in performance after doing (something) to their FreeBSD >servers. > >I have around 1Mb down and 864Kb up ... according to the telco. Any >ideas will be much appreciated. This kind of random fishing expedition is unlikely to succeed. You need to take a more methodical approach to the problem. Luckily, Kris Kennaway did a presentation a while ago that teaches you the *right* way to fish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfb5_uG7BCA Learn what diagnostic tools are available, where they're appropriate, and how to use them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 08:59:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E55D106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06698FC16 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Pi0xe-0003MD-JP>; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:42:42 +0100 Received: from e178009220.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.9.220] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Pi0xe-0004Pr-Gj>; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:42:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:42:42 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101218 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.9.220 Subject: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:59:04 -0000 I've got a problem. For performance reasons I use two 1TB harddrives as a single pool, and as far as I know, ZFS on recent FreeBSD 9/amd64 treats suchs pools 'striped'. Well, I can measure a performance gain in writing and reading. Well, for backup, I use an additional 2TB disk, ZFS, compressed, the backup is done manually via rsync (i'm looking for more suitable simple backup solutions). My question is: is it possible to migrate the two-disk pool without data loss into a mirrored pool by adding the one 2TB-disk? Comments appreciated, thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 09:21:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D50106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463CA8FC15 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi1 with SMTP id 1so37197pxi.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=B0XgQg5dRArmz2YlqTthp9IMdcdEKB4qSbBUBFNuubQ=; b=FYlYbyDIAPxKo12cNh947uSDTe27sGOalcO9F7yaCuA6zFuTEHQuV9nAnUMspwCc6x tRR/Qhrhq7cK34qndg+VNAGtXargyxmJ9ILsn/CTKFIZFdNAkkwKaax6TtfFjs/sET0i xVvzP2FmVhY82h80hH8Ugfqs5IKVU9YO+1E7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=U0yXvKstKmWE8T3a0hBtAiEMra7++e2MqN6P1JYpGOZ2Sr438hL3FTIfZEjkx3rJ2b 4JagK1wZocyIHKc7UC7z4ng+9r5kSNZbfttjfiPmeWUj0cb/R7eAI0jb4ADmG/Qxqv53 55zNoDkWhCmDHwYrMFApqnjRUjbrUg08Mxn5Y= Received: by 10.142.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr109233wff.12.1296033713678; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.72.2 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:21:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:21:33 +0100 Message-ID: To: "O. Hartmann" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:21:54 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > My question is: is it possible to migrate the two-disk pool without data > loss into a mirrored pool by adding the one 2TB-disk? > No, you cant create a two-way mirror of three disks with ZFS. The only way of doing what you want by creating a gmirror (or by hardware raid) of the two 1TB disks. -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 09:31:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4F5106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sa@mbg.se) Received: from server3.mbg.se (c-7-202-233-83.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.202.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAE28FC08 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dator1.hbg.mbg.se (server7 [83.233.202.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server3.mbg.se (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0Q9VAeK077657 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:31:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sa@mbg.se) Message-ID: <4D3FE9DE.8070203@mbg.se> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:31:10 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sven-=C5ke_Svensson?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101216 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on server3.mbg.se Subject: Monting nfs at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:31:16 -0000 Hi I have some workstations where I mount working directories at boot. The directories that should be mounting are in /etc/fstab. All workstations are FreeBSD 8.1 and there are both i386 and amd64. On the i386 machines it works very well. But on the amd64 something happends. When booting amd64 it looks like it try to mount the nfs directories before the network is up. On the screen I can see that it try to mount and then there is a line telling that the network interface is up. There it locks up for some minutes before it continue and mounting. When the system is up it all works well but it's annoying to wait nearly five minutes for an workstation to came up. These amd64 machines are from different vendors and have different network devices. Maybe there are some easy configuration fix, but I can't find it. Best regards Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 09:50:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797901065672 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01EF8FC0A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: p0Q9nwoQ011542 Received: from gkeramidas-glaptop.linux.gr ([74.125.57.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id p0Q9nwoQ011542 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:50:05 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Da Rock References: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:49:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4D3F7AF6.9020701@herveybayaustralia.com.au> (Da Rock's message of "Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:37:58 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmake format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:19 -0000 On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:37:58 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > You'll have to excuse my ignorance (and my curious mind...), but I > can't seem to find a straight answer to this. I know linux uses gmake, > and gmake is installed via ports on FreeBSD, but does that mean gmake > will only create linux binaries using the abi compatibility? gmake itself does not produce anything in the form of binary files. It merely 'drives' other tools to create them. So if a makefile calls 'gcc' to compile something and there is a native 'gcc' version in your local system, a properly written makefile should still work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 11:42:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C15106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383B98FC0C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D512185D; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:42:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p0QBgMrQ001561; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:42:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:42:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sven-=C5ke?= Svensson Message-Id: <20110126124222.341dcad0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4D3FE9DE.8070203@mbg.se> References: <4D3FE9DE.8070203@mbg.se> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monting nfs at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:42:25 -0000 On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:31:10 +0100, Sven-=C5ke Svensson wrote: > When booting amd64 it looks like it try to mount the nfs directories=20 > before the network is up. On the screen I can see that it try to mount=20 > and then there is a line telling that the network interface is up. There= =20 > it locks up for some minutes before it continue and mounting. > [...] > Maybe there are some easy configuration fix, but I can't find it. Check out the -l option of mount, and the corresponding keyword "late" in /etc/fstab. See "man mount" for details. Also see /etc/rc.d/mountlate to learn how it works (and if it fits your requirements). --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 12:17:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B778106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFB68FC21 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so5130923wwi.1 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:17:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JL+K116oIQd9UWg/nF5PcFL3sTS9+QuggXfs3znmSh0=; b=NvzzTx6d2CV+jICFMErz+7UvY9id+IxX+zQ2atqJ4+gQr+h4+lyJT0nSDRWcUxe4m5 w3xdiQIqf4GKBmNuNG0Z/yYr2o7QoI4Hc+2V9nCNa9UdOPkqJ+7MBtwrC4zuXZjswkWG GUky6c2og+eQkH95vqnjDatuFrf98djTjFzgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J+U5g4vfH31NvPKdabFs+zMlTNZwRzSmMCs7KJDEHb7oSujLNeDnrhdfagIq0AIAHE zoC6P+gX0PoFPlEx1X9OsLJp370iIvumBulhsMQtnHSAgYO5cbTLCKmy8flb5552s0L2 mc3UCHNX/LxptTd621GosUcYVxcdfNP8uNXdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.208.230 with SMTP id q80mr4767306weo.103.1296044267798; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.0.8 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 04:17:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:17:47 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Christer Solskogen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:17:49 -0000 On 26 January 2011 09:21, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 AM, O. Hartmann > wrote: > >> My question is: is it possible to migrate the two-disk pool without data >> loss into a mirrored pool by adding the one 2TB-disk? >> > > No, you cant create a two-way mirror of three disks with ZFS. The only > way of doing what you want by creating a gmirror (or by hardware raid) > of the two 1TB disks. > > -- > chs, > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > ive not tried it but wouldn't you want to gstripe the two disks together and then add the geom device to the pool? It sounds a bit horrible to me and with the price of 2TB disks being ~ =A365-70 here in the uk I wouldn't bother. Remember you will get a speed boost for reads on a mirror. WIth regards to the backup, the most efficient way would probably to use zfs send and receive between the pools From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 13:15:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A65106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9092C8FC0A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so898850wyf.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:15:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=g6fslpIei04K86QccmLVmv6GPI63QaO51Uga7x05tVk=; b=j21pgIkw0b7BKJiah1nOCQ8gFbjPPi8BgiZz/c1NfWExNEkuXZ2+Pw4RM3Lh7JTKGm R+6qPGKGadb92BjSHmxTodqOB4Ta+GttRKMIbGz8OoCPUUMWZohOZVMHxBj9KPNOpGjS mPtufOjBRIB1+Vrld0VwEBxVm4e5wtIKGTLHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NtpUEUp881F+cQbY+QxC9VAF3i8Wjw+gkG9QADcUQOc89TsdtTJPI/ukjYT4VU917C 5SUJnsHg0bahqwOm/CG30nCxqK0igFU2uijteVLRZYTQ8JGhZg/1Hn3JDzcdzH9/VBB4 HZNV9W7VETa7KeABVbVKX+NaAVTiKqL9Cnh3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.9 with SMTP id f9mr7489309wbv.209.1296047719427; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:15:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.20.73 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:15:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:15:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Installing gnome2 problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:15:21 -0000 List, I tried to install gnome2 today, but failed. I first tried using pkg_add, but ran into a conflict where 'tdb-1.2.0 conflicts with samba3.0.37_1,1'. I *need* samba3 as I use it for other network services. So, I tried to build gnome2 from ports after disabling MAPI. It *almost* worked, but the build still failed. I ran gnomelogalyzer.sh as instructed, but it said the cause was unknown. Before I built anything, I updated my ports tree via 'portsnap fetch && portsnap update'. I'm on FreeBSD 8.1 RELEASE on amd64. Any suggestions? Thanks! -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 13:40:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8C31065698; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3A8FC27; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pi5bU-0005wX-Ku; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:08 +0100 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0QDeGZL001778; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p0QDeFRf001777; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:15 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110126134015.GA1709@current.Sisis.de> References: <20110125132757.GA3479@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20110125132757.GA3479@current.Sisis.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: Subject: Re: snd_es137x && no recording from headset micro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:40:11 -0000 El día Tuesday, January 25, 2011 a las 02:27:58PM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > Hello, > > I run FreeBSD 8.x in a VMWare hosted on Win7. The VM presents the Intel > HDA sound card of the laptop as AudioPCI ES1371-A and I have to use the driver > snd_es137x(4) which works fine with only the problem that I can not > manage to record from the headset micro. > > The headset micro works fine in Win7 and it switches between the laptop > build-in micro and the headset micro on plug-in; as well while running > FreeBSD before as host system on this laptop I could record from both micro (using the > snd_hda(4) driver. > > The output of /dev/sndstat is: > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x2040 irq 16 kld snd_es137x [MPSAFE] (2p:4v/1r:4v channels duplex default) > > i.e. there is only pcm0 and no pcm1 (should it?) I did some more tests and have now a clear picture: 1) in Win7 you can control (System-control-->Sound-->Input) the input devices (build-in micro ./. headset micro), you can test them there and you can define which one is the default; if you set 'headset micro' as default and pull it out, the default switches to build-in micro and back again if you plug it in again; 2) if you start the VM while a) headset micro is pluged-in and b) set as default, the recording in Skype works from headset micro; YES, it works! 3) if you pull out the headset micro, the recording (also in the VM with Skype) falls back to build-in micro; but you can't switch back by pluging it in again, is stays with build-in micro; even a FreeBSD guest system reboot does not change it back; only a restart of VMWare bring the headset micro again as default; It looks like a bug in VMWare or Win7, I think, and nothing we could address here in FreeBSD world, or? Just for the record, se also http://communities.vmware.com/thread/300335 Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 14:21:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEC71065674 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB418FC1E for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21so151170gwj.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:21:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UKa9Kpm5H2tZj8YmgZki2RMVxj/p82X9koqvuLO+2wM=; b=mUxW0pNjC3q0gRhhlnpbsvkRd5WEk+OWrrfqyFpOkhh3Vc1mWE/cZE17gNk8VuVK9S +aGOtDElV9DfsSk0gjlgFNVi/ySilcFLYVjBdZMgypNL0DOnkGaXTzbdu/59lBgbvNAI MmsCY4qW/YCwqTSbqhw8PMNVItHJj+huOKMeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=IW1h/2ae6EAGn9MkefyArHPmnbhtsjIFM5Fq3eoBJpjCo928rK983wPDyCv/I+6E7T WtHp/r+lh5PPcV5GPmyLtyDJluA/bWQZ0FU/OzGZWB4JojkEB0BqLowE2z03YDhICVo+ 1YdxzRQnWa0rjYSiWaJSkPCOTvLZTq4KB0FOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.111.43 with SMTP id v31mr2651822yhg.23.1296051660131; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.105.197 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:21:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:21:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: include file not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:21:02 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > gcc -Wall -Wformat-security -Wno-format-zero-length -g -O3 -I. > -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include -DLIBDIR='"/lib/l2tpns"' > -DETCDIR='"/etc/l2tpns"' -DSTATISTICS -DSTAT_CALLS -DRINGBUFFER > -DHAVE_EPOLL -DBGP -c -o arp.o arp.c > In file included from arp.c:8: > /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:88: error: field 'arp_pa' has incomplete type > /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:89: error: field 'arp_ha' has incomplete type You seem to be missing definitions of struct sockaddr, so probably sys/socket.h is needed. > In file included from arp.c:9: > /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:96: error: field 'sin_addr' has > incomplete type > /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:97: error: field 'sin_srcaddr' has > incomplete type Here it looks like you're missing struct in_addr, which is in sys/netinet/in.h (and also arpa/inet.h). > arp.c:20: error: 'ETH_ALEN' undeclared here (not in a function) > arp.c: In function 'sendarp': > arp.c:29: error: storage size of 'sll' isn't known > arp.c:54: error: 'PF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) > arp.c:54: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > arp.c:54: error: for each function it appears in.) > arp.c:54: error: 'ETH_P_RARP' undeclared (first use in this function) > arp.c:57: error: 'AF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) Some of these missing parameters are Linux-specific. > arp.c:29: warning: unused variable 'sll' > gmake: *** [arp.o] Error 1 As you can see, porting requires some care. It's not only a matter of including different headers; there are some other differences that may require patches, and we won't be able to go through this step-by-step on the list. You can see what FreeBSD headers a similar FreeBSD application needs by looking at src/usr.sbin/arp, and you can get some help with the Linux->FreeBSD part by looking at /sys/compat/linux, http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/projects/ofed/head/sys/ofed/include/ and http://fxr.watson.org/ ; and you might be able to cheat a bit by using a compatibility layer like devel/gnulib, but you're going to have to go through this carefully on your own. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 14:32:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B92106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (lerwick.hopto.org [204.51.112.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFC68FC08 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4834 invoked by uid 98); 26 Jan 2011 14:39:33 +0000 Received: from 81.187.141.93 by mailserver (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.96.1/11509. spamassassin: 3.3.1. Clear:RC:1(81.187.141.93):. Processed in 0.024733 secs); 26 Jan 2011 14:39:33 -0000 Received: from 93.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (81.187.141.93) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 26 Jan 2011 14:39:33 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20110125183619.GA65845@guilt.hydra> References: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> <20110125030725.GA62670@guilt.hydra> <20110125183619.GA65845@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:32:32 +0000 Message-ID: <1296052352.64846.2.camel@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:32:29 -0000 On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 11:36 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 06:20:02AM -0700, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > > Do you have a reference to a relatively simple explanation of how that > > > weighting works (and why)? > > > > man 1 ps: > > > > %cpu The CPU utilization of the process; this is a decaying average > > over up to a minute of previous (real) time. Since the time > > base over which this is computed varies (since processes may be > > very young) it is possible for the sum of all %cpu fields to > > exceed 100%. > > Unfortunately, that doesn't explain why. > Chad, ASK GOOGLE !!! a quick google search gave me - http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1296052256266+28353475&threadId=57634 happy reading.. Regards Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 14:40:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BFE1065670 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (lerwick.hopto.org [204.51.112.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A988FC08 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5299 invoked by uid 98); 26 Jan 2011 14:47:31 +0000 Received: from 81.187.141.93 by mailserver (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.96.1/11509. spamassassin: 3.3.1. Clear:RC:1(81.187.141.93):. Processed in 0.025248 secs); 26 Jan 2011 14:47:31 -0000 Received: from 93.141.187.81.in-addr.arpa (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (81.187.141.93) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 26 Jan 2011 14:47:31 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <1296052352.64846.2.camel@main> References: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> <20110125030725.GA62670@guilt.hydra> <20110125183619.GA65845@guilt.hydra> <1296052352.64846.2.camel@main> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:27 +0000 Message-ID: <1296052827.64846.4.camel@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:40:26 -0000 > > > > > > %cpu The CPU utilization of the process; this is a decaying average > > > over up to a minute of previous (real) time. Since the time > > > base over which this is computed varies (since processes may be > > > very young) it is possible for the sum of all %cpu fields to > > > exceed 100%. > > > > Unfortunately, that doesn't explain why. > > > > Chad, > > ASK GOOGLE !!! > > a quick google search gave me - > > http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1296052256266+28353475&threadId=57634 > > happy reading.. > > Regards > > Craig B > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" copied from above link -- In summary: The %WCPU is just a 'forecast' value for the process. It really has no real world value. It's value is totally controlled by the scheduler. The man page for top(1) indicates that %CPU is the "Raw CPU percentage. This field is used to sort the top processes". Well, the %CPU is the total percentage without the 'forecast' factor built-in, such as a 'raw value.' Regards Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 15:08:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31A9106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F238FC1C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so994023iwn.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.179.137 with SMTP id bq9mr560379icb.384.1296054538739; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:08:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.202 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:08:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Brennan Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: To: Modulok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installing gnome2 problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:08:59 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Modulok wrote: > List, > > I tried to install gnome2 today, but failed. I first tried using > pkg_add, but ran into a conflict where 'tdb-1.2.0 conflicts with > samba3.0.37_1,1'. Samba's backend changed, you'll need to make sure that all of Samba3's deps are installed/upgraded correctly. > I *need* samba3 as I use it for other network > services. So, I tried to build gnome2 from ports after disabling MAPI. > It *almost* worked, but the build still failed. I ran > gnomelogalyzer.sh as instructed, but it said the cause was unknown. > > Where did it fail, what was the error? Can you post the relevant part of the failure to the list? > Before I built anything, I updated my ports tree via 'portsnap fetch > && portsnap update'. I'm on FreeBSD 8.1 RELEASE on amd64. > > 'portsnap fetch extract' or 'portsnap fetch update' ... saves yourself some keystrokes. I tend to alias these to 'pfe' and pfu', saves even more keystrokes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 15:42:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661ED1065672 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379BF8FC13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22so92558pvc.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:42:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=fo6XYbv1hH6TAP4pQC8ju8zTTAfPxtslbAig/hqOFto=; b=rGodN2yfMXmfx7Y8zXyTWLfi76AqGbO0vt3ZWWRqeebg+TUz+IrMJMuzEbGFNtZcPj 8gxXIwu96equCYAxYUXXBukGdfM+L8KxAL3jBR1LGiLvGQXMPPk+nnfdfd7xlRpRPYd3 CFDcoTRwZSVxG8VfjGEm2UvGjQ1Yl8LVG6swo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=i4KxKmxebT3f9iA68KDlfFrXmDOOhHfAIhBaqzui4Qx/YWQXWxbaup86j3S9vyeGSa ctjztLHCB837NtdGQyJ4CgCpwJEHDGC8L00wX+0nBDM4sbo7Kd6yM23PzhDIc+AH2FuF hX/YaNwEUrYOWAqzn78ksOjtBU+lfoxgwdyJc= Received: by 10.142.214.16 with SMTP id m16mr421652wfg.365.1296054795329; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from subhro-2.tserv15.lax1.dyn.he.net ([184.104.84.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v19sm20377332wfh.12.2011.01.26.07.13.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:13:13 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Subhro Kar In-Reply-To: <065101cbbcf3$e9fb81c0$bdf28540$@com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:43:05 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <87CFBD9A-4AC0-4FAD-9D9A-FBDF73FE6296@gmail.com> References: <065101cbbcf3$e9fb81c0$bdf28540$@com> To: Don O'Neil X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best RAID setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:42:28 -0000 On 26-Jan-2011, at 6:26 AM, Don O'Neil wrote: > I'm getting ready to setup a new FreeBSD 8.1 64 bit server and wanted = to > know everyone's thoughts on which way to go. software RAID 5 (or 10) = or > hardware RAID 5 (or 10). If you need to select between software and hardware RAID, then by all = means go for hardware RAID. RAID 10 is always faster than RAID5 and the = difference really stands out when writing data. > I currently have a 3Ware card in one of my servers > and it works great, but I haven't really been keeping up on what the = latest > RAID support is. All RAID cards (that I have come across) support both RAID 10 and RAID5. = So there is a fair chance that your card will not disappoint you. > How is the ZFS support these days? Is it production ready? ZFS is fine. I use it on my prod boxes and so far there have been no = issues. > What about hardware RAID, is there a compatibility list somewhere with = what > hardware (or pseudo hardware) RAID controllers are supported?=20 Didn't get this question though. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I'm just looking for the most stable, and production ready RAID that = can > handle at least 1 TB disks and create volumes in the 3-4 TB range. Any > thoughts, feedback, caveats, etc. are welcomed. You need to RTFM. Thanks -- Subhro Kar Visit my Blog: http://blog.80386.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 15:50:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9FA1065670 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14058FC1D for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi1 with SMTP id 1so101071pxi.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:50:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2cLYtBF+rIuD2O+HVTRYqYv+g99/MxbXimn6fQLhqkE=; b=sKfaxXqve+GLeJFC5qV6YKSpB6JRYY2Dp1L7qy/Nbx3q64nkWk/LU9j3Pxkz07g1ZR Y3deGPkM4FFSbJZdWWcaO3+9dr9mMLxDwAZ33tiEBOU0FhG5uNVR28JUmq8MPfSZFWnx bPg7RR3DcOc+TwOZRIT6MYBysAESsVkXPxdVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=eqvg7rJyPnJdYApmJ6RziM7PBRv+ATH9itelTXbacjDize3BFuUpvSQvUXuTPMjw/x CXFj4qx5LDVl7hmfZsLNREUF2tjmZkVTrRe3GnVkvHajMr8eUbDWwrgSnS4mLv+zsGNk Q+sC4/480ztv6NJIlh1NKQ34UCDMT8PB3YFcY= Received: by 10.142.51.8 with SMTP id y8mr487792wfy.183.1296057059227; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:50:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.72.2 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:50:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <065101cbbcf3$e9fb81c0$bdf28540$@com> References: <065101cbbcf3$e9fb81c0$bdf28540$@com> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:50:39 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Don O'Neil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Best RAID setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:51:00 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Don O'Neil wrote: > > I'm just looking for the most stable, and production ready RAID that can > handle at least 1 TB disks and create volumes in the 3-4 TB range. Any > thoughts, feedback, caveats, etc. are welcomed. > ZFS. You want it. -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 16:12:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946071065670 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EC78FC17 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QGC1rJ054537; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:12:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0QGC1Gu054534; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:12:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:12:01 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110126124222.341dcad0.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4D3FE9DE.8070203@mbg.se> <20110126124222.341dcad0.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-259877112-1296058321=:54489" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:12:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Sven-=C5ke_Svensson?= Subject: Re: Monting nfs at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:12:07 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-259877112-1296058321=:54489 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:31:10 +0100, Sven-ke Svensson wrote: >> When booting amd64 it looks like it try to mount the nfs directories >> before the network is up. On the screen I can see that it try to mount >> and then there is a line telling that the network interface is up. There >> it locks up for some minutes before it continue and mounting. >> [...] >> Maybe there are some easy configuration fix, but I can't find it. > > Check out the -l option of mount, and the corresponding > keyword "late" in /etc/fstab. See "man mount" for details. > Also see /etc/rc.d/mountlate to learn how it works (and > if it fits your requirements). Using SYNCDHCP instead of just DHCP in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig lines may also help. ---902635197-259877112-1296058321=:54489-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 16:14:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA30910656C6 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frlinux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746018FC17 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so1041230wwf.31 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UtVYs5HimwaYmHQgC7khMQtNvXj67herFjcDG5cBiJU=; b=g1OKRywJYLT7AWrPCs7Ye/UxDaEpLPctYxSmMEPwDPevKH9ZpYZW6Znwzx9uhnHdpZ FDpiQxkTvh+IAgM9uSGyWrNORO951BSQEKVdD16lhc4ukXd28naLUzyEryucv388MMxR uJt+PAbKHpDy4d23vHnaiA1OGxyXeoDTW5/2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X44YDfQMxXscQxejp2Mf7/14B02CXjjkqlORc34ExqDnU0B8L3/kt320Td/zlTILsc 8D6VhTaUlMC2+P66M4EP9xra4aartiA7GcAV3g9OsLFdxvrv5znytpU4DIE4cS3+GKPq zhE75zbszQpAFg1KqlW8e1HHAl4IHc3aAKe4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.132.143 with SMTP id b15mr7732325wbt.9.1296058492119; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.203.133 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:14:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: FRLinux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: interrupt storm detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:14:53 -0000 Hello All, I have a server running FreeBSD 8.2-RC1 with a 3ware 9650 24ports controller. Every now and then I am seeing the interrupt storm message. I have increased the following according to the list: hw.intr_storm_threshold=4000 but it still happens. Any advice? interrupt storm detected on "irq16:"; throttling interrupt source interrupt storm detected on "irq16:"; throttling interrupt source fsync: giving up on dirty 0xffffff0007c7e000: tag devfs, type VCHR usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 1133 mountedhere 0xffffff00079f9000 flags () v_object 0xffffff0007be40d8 ref 0 pages 12087 lock type devfs: EXCL by thread 0xffffff0007504000 (pid 7) dev da0.journal GEOM_JOURNAL: Cannot suspend file system /mnt/backups (error=35). fsync: giving up on dirty 0xffffff0007c7e000: tag devfs, type VCHR usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 1386 mountedhere 0xffffff00079f9000 flags () v_object 0xffffff0007be40d8 ref 0 pages 13771 lock type devfs: EXCL by thread 0xffffff0007504000 (pid 7) dev da0.journal GEOM_JOURNAL: Cannot suspend file system /mnt/backups (error=35). fsync: giving up on dirty 0xffffff0007c7e000: tag devfs, type VCHR usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 1578 mountedhere 0xffffff00079f9000 flags () v_object 0xffffff0007be40d8 ref 0 pages 20487 lock type devfs: EXCL by thread 0xffffff0007504000 (pid 7) dev da0.journal GEOM_JOURNAL: Cannot suspend file system /mnt/backups (error=35). fsync: giving up on dirty 0xffffff0007c7e000: tag devfs, type VCHR usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 571 mountedhere 0xffffff00079f9000 flags () v_object 0xffffff0007be40d8 ref 0 pages 20407 lock type devfs: EXCL by thread 0xffffff0007504000 (pid 7) dev da0.journal GEOM_JOURNAL: Cannot suspend file system /mnt/backups (error=35). interrupt storm detected on "irq16:"; throttling interrupt source fsync: giving up on dirty 0xffffff0007c7e000: tag devfs, type VCHR usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 2331 mountedhere 0xffffff00079f9000 flags () v_object 0xffffff0007be40d8 ref 0 pages 27599 lock type devfs: EXCL by thread 0xffffff0007504000 (pid 7) dev da0.journal GEOM_JOURNAL: Cannot suspend file system /mnt/backups (error=35). fsync: giving up on dirty 0xffffff0007c7e000: tag devfs, type VCHR usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 2681 mountedhere 0xffffff00079f9000 flags () v_object 0xffffff0007be40d8 ref 0 pages 20055 lock type devfs: EXCL by thread 0xffffff0007504000 (pid 7) dev da0.journal GEOM_JOURNAL: Cannot suspend file system /mnt/backups (error=35). fsync: giving up on dirty 0xffffff0007c7e000: tag devfs, type VCHR usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 2690 mountedhere 0xffffff00079f9000 flags () v_object 0xffffff0007be40d8 ref 0 pages 19631 lock type devfs: EXCL by thread 0xffffff0007504000 (pid 7) dev da0.journal GEOM_JOURNAL: Cannot suspend file system /mnt/backups (error=35). interrupt storm detected on "irq16:"; throttling interrupt source Thanks! Steph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:00:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8143E1065673 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5D78FC19 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so1241640fxm.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:00:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gG+MmYZNNr/9zvSJ2IS1YEFO0VJN82E5CaFyDBEk6Mk=; b=scP8Et8BfvbS2LjDQap2OdM/azCrTojD7qJpJfuRgTjTCAIwFE1J/Bs/hKWvqgH9fl MKIxlaNMkkD+EIepSt4+NSe9yMe52jHqfqFNqzv94EqrnslKsSqJti2cKwtIIlKXMqHs 7PqMCogZAF2UOWn6mRySESWcWrIw7KaiBDxb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CRAEeP2a7mDfWbkFxV6LC2i9xgRLzioSAlWJbguco3A6E07GYIg4DHiGH5Q6gurqJS ngp/reJ5uNPk2JtqueTI21xdZKuoHxnUvbX8YmKqnJtNGdXOV6nuRspchysv9RFvzPr8 4jhJL4sXAMbCCJ+ffJnPsTcqaV0r+lyPzaqpw= Received: by 10.223.81.76 with SMTP id w12mr7517426fak.26.1296061132721; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a17sm7604444bku.23.2011.01.26.08.58.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:58:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D4052C3.9090106@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:58:43 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110125 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> <20110113232321.5857ad0f@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110114153212.GA21418@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <87sjwv2uj7.fsf@oak.localnet> In-Reply-To: <87sjwv2uj7.fsf@oak.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:00:54 -0000 On 14/01/2011 19:46, Carl Johnson wrote: > Chip Camden writes: > >> Quoth Carl Chave on Friday, 14 January 2011: >>>> I'd suggest looking at the Btimes of top level directories >>>> >>>> stat -f "%SB %N" /* >>> >>> Or how about just / as this ~15 minutes earlier than most of the >>> remaining top level directories >>> >>> >>> sodserve# stat -f "%SB %N" /* >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /COPYRIGHT >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /bin >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /boot >>> Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 /dev >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /etc >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /lib >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /libexec >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /media >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /mnt >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /proc >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /rescue >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /root >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /sbin >>> Jan 9 04:54:21 2011 /sys >>> Jan 9 04:48:39 2011 /tmp >>> Jan 9 04:48:45 2011 /usr >>> Jan 9 04:49:39 2011 /var >>> >>> sodserve# stat -f "%SB %N" / >>> Jan 9 04:39:59 2011 / >> >> For me, that gets the Nov 21 2009 date, which is earlier than my >> install date. >> >> So far, /etc/hostid and the /home symlink seem to be the winners. > > On my system /etc/hostid is several days later than my actual install > date, so that isn't always reliable. You might want to create a file > with the timestamp you want. The most likely time appears to me to be > the 'Created' time in /etc/rc.conf, as someone suggested earlier. The > following code will extract that and create a file with that timestamp. > I have checked it on my system, but use at your own risk. > > file=/etc/install_date > date=$(grep '^# Created: ' /etc/rc.conf | cut -c 12-80) > tdate=$(date -j -f "%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Y" "$date" "+%Y%m%d%H%M.%S") > echo $date> $file > touch -t $tdate $file > chmod -w $file > chflags schange $file > I finally agreed for /home symlink. I've made a mistake. To be sure the link and not the directory /usr/home is touched the best to do is : # chflags -h uchg /home -h means "not following links" -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:04:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2031065675 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71F8FC17 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so5188145qyk.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:04:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kFXlNTeIz2Ekx22QFK/YyM2IdAWjsPsqrpYshE2E4jI=; b=sAcdaweal/IiY1aauTRL6y+thODFG+TP7//Yx8phciFSelz0LwYIsQWiobfPCcFljr FRd3mMIzaMJeoVc3QEQwuMq9sijswcshLAde0wyiydCf/RZhWWK1ik5gY76opwu6j/i7 qTsgdQvQRxhW/Uq5Vv9fjyr+4FuL7TJvPdNpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lYitQC5006yv9O89l9YkHpgpMX33CO2bjMdjiODwFfrkUK+Hl6AOGUFNXXay7SjNan YEbhqdLFYdKZGqzFG0gNqspb6Glsn5CJTZmDyt+mlDxsGMxOHOIxJg22dTsU/m1XEFif jYbz+m5PYMNq7qm8jLOAPIxaw+VMqpO+ANUkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.37.20 with SMTP id v20mr617684qad.216.1296061490966; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:04:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:34:50 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: HPLIP 3.10.9 problems on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:04:52 -0000 Hi FreeBSD people, I am trying to make my HP LaserJet P1102 work on FreeBSD 8.1 and towards that goal I installed HPLIP 3.10.9 from the Ports Collection. But there are two problems: 1.First, when I try to run HPLIP in the GUI (GNOME), it closes once it's opened. It remains open for less than a second. 2.Second, it does not recognize my printer. When I use the command-line tools it just simply does not recognize my printer. This is while the printer is recognized on the USB bus, I confirm it by using "usbconfig". mail# uname -a FreeBSD mail.freebsdsystem.net 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 24 23:09:14 IRST 2011 root@mail.freebsdsystem.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 mail# usbconfig ugen0.1: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON ugen1.1: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON ugen0.2: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen1.2: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE ugen1.3: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON ugen1.4: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON ugen1.5: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON mail# Can you give me a little help? Has anyone ever managed to get this printer (HP P1102) working on FreeBSD? Good Luck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:41:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2FD106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw19.surf-town.net (mail11.surf-town.net [212.97.132.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251948FC12 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw19.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C68FC111788; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:41:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw19.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227281117C5; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:41:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw19.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw19.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw19.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1D1juTBbWZyW; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:41:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-4d80e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.132.158]) by mailgw19.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 88261111789; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:41:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D405CC5.1080505@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:41:25 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110117 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bahman Kahinpour References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HPLIP 3.10.9 problems on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:41:37 -0000 2011-01-26 18:04, Bahman Kahinpour skrev: > Hi FreeBSD people, > I am trying to make my HP LaserJet P1102 work on FreeBSD 8.1 and > towards that goal I installed HPLIP 3.10.9 from the Ports Collection. > But there are two problems: > 1.First, when I try to run HPLIP in the GUI (GNOME), it closes once > it's opened. It remains open for less than a second. > 2.Second, it does not recognize my printer. When I use the > command-line tools it just simply does not recognize my printer. This > is while the printer is recognized on the USB bus, I confirm it by > using "usbconfig". > > mail# uname -a > FreeBSD mail.freebsdsystem.net 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon > Jan 24 23:09:14 IRST 2011 > root@mail.freebsdsystem.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > mail# usbconfig > ugen0.1: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH > (480Mbps) pwr=ON > ugen1.1: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH > (480Mbps) pwr=ON > ugen0.2: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST > spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE > ugen1.2: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST > spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE > ugen1.3: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW > (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON > ugen1.4: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST > spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON > ugen1.5: at usbus1, > cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON > mail# > > Can you give me a little help? Has anyone ever managed to get this > printer (HP P1102) working on FreeBSD? > > Good Luck > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I've never used that specific printer, but the first thing that comes to mind is the lack of ulpt entries. Do you have device ulpt in your kernel config file, or ulpt_load="YES" in your /boot/loader.conf ? If not, try one of them. Hm. I just checked the output of my usbconfig, and it also shows no ulpt, though I do have it. And I also checked the GENERIC config file, and it does include ulpt, at least for 8.2-PRERELEASE amd64. So, you may actually have it. But that's still the first thing I'd look for if I were you. Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:50:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B541065672 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1768FC15 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so1165505qyk.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=fdZwyPmYqfDlHkjEuo35+4FKSDy9nVzWXTtKL6GB2BA=; b=YdHQ43/SsIDWraYkxakRxmshrupJQ/kp4Y/xlCka4HQMogJD4GNbr+OJT7vgFHju2O mzBpUJHGmsq+qXL4jRkfeNcvfOaFdFnCSSk73BwwfRSOhgKIocx1kq73u2YAQ2PS7L/j czJ4F3twTy+4GrRaL0F11VwJFRoNg6VJ9CB/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=TJ0pMnJrBHRrGPBramj5D3oROZ0KWZoLRa6tu1pVgj+ODANEF6cru4vxc7Wd80fyrJ bJrKmZBdbA9/uOq/2wKQ3VQy4KRdvVfMCH4dSsCNFo7aotuVeislS1ZJHc1klWT096xJ W2YP5SXsCo817hdtjR9gNPvqJKtvGUpTBP258= Received: by 10.229.81.12 with SMTP id v12mr616171qck.132.1296064229982; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.175.141 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:50:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D3F165B.9090309@rawbw.com> References: <4D30F633.8000009@rawbw.com> <4D346A81.9080407@rawbw.com> <4D3F165B.9090309@rawbw.com> From: Paul B Mahol Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: To: yuri@rawbw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ndis-based network driver fails to load at boot (8.2-PRERELEASE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:50:31 -0000 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Yuri wrote: > >> Does reverting: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_usb.c.diff?r1=1.19.2.3;r2=1.19.2.4;f=h >> >> fixed problem? >> > > Hi Paul, > > So did the find that this particular checkin caused the problem led to some > resolution? Is it fixed now in 8.X or 9.X? Should be fixed in 9.0 aka CURRENT and I hope in 8.2 (PRE)RELEASE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:52:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8D9106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479B88FC1A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6F25C44 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:59:24 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D405EA6.2020606@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:49:26 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: include file not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:52:20 -0000 On 01/27/11 00:21, b. f. wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > >> gcc -Wall -Wformat-security -Wno-format-zero-length -g -O3 -I. >> -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include -DLIBDIR='"/lib/l2tpns"' >> -DETCDIR='"/etc/l2tpns"' -DSTATISTICS -DSTAT_CALLS -DRINGBUFFER >> -DHAVE_EPOLL -DBGP -c -o arp.o arp.c >> In file included from arp.c:8: >> /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:88: error: field 'arp_pa' has incomplete type >> /usr/include/net/if_arp.h:89: error: field 'arp_ha' has incomplete type >> > You seem to be missing definitions of struct sockaddr, so probably > sys/socket.h is needed. > Got that one. > >> In file included from arp.c:9: >> /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:96: error: field 'sin_addr' has >> incomplete type >> /usr/include/netinet/if_ether.h:97: error: field 'sin_srcaddr' has >> incomplete type >> > Here it looks like you're missing struct in_addr, which is in > sys/netinet/in.h (and also arpa/inet.h). > And that one- missed arpa/inet.h though :) > >> arp.c:20: error: 'ETH_ALEN' undeclared here (not in a function) >> arp.c: In function 'sendarp': >> arp.c:29: error: storage size of 'sll' isn't known >> arp.c:54: error: 'PF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) >> arp.c:54: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >> arp.c:54: error: for each function it appears in.) >> arp.c:54: error: 'ETH_P_RARP' undeclared (first use in this function) >> arp.c:57: error: 'AF_PACKET' undeclared (first use in this function) >> > Some of these missing parameters are Linux-specific. > > >> arp.c:29: warning: unused variable 'sll' >> gmake: *** [arp.o] Error 1 >> > As you can see, porting requires some care. It's not only a matter of > including different headers; there are some other differences that may > require patches, and we won't be able to go through this step-by-step > on the list. You can see what FreeBSD headers a similar FreeBSD > application needs by looking at src/usr.sbin/arp, and you can get some > help with the Linux->FreeBSD part by looking at /sys/compat/linux, > Yes, I was thinking of asking that question. linux/packet.h system, is there a compatible bsd version to this (even deprecated?)? Mind you, from what I've read it could even be deprecated itself :) It was released in 2002 after all. According to some references, you're supposed to be using kernel/if_ether.h. The code I'm building doesn't appear to have changed much in nearly a year, so I don't know. > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/projects/ofed/head/sys/ofed/include/ > > and > > http://fxr.watson.org/ > > ; and you might be able to cheat a bit by using a compatibility layer > like devel/gnulib, but you're going to have to go through this > carefully on your own. > I'm hoping to win this one myself; I've been trying to get a better handle on the internals of FreeBSD so I can do more patching when things go wrong and be able to submit those instead of complaining its just 'broke'. This just might help me 'cut my teeth'. I might ask just a few dumb questions along the way though :) One thing I don't understand, though, apparently this code just builds on FreeBSD according to the site I'm following (7.2). I'm going to have a closer look at that and see whats up... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:55:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A521065740 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149278FC08 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so5238918qyk.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:55:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PvQB6H12nmt2PkM86UmcAgGaFbWjCAyHkd2907KwJUc=; b=DIuIUiyOX0lYVAYSoWOY7V9ab8mv3BR+5IFWVQGh/KF+TTaKu1DSiCwLLTKVp/LfpO FeTlclyp5WKPcBf4A2WfgK2iayce7YMXekbngCVzmbNPW3HWNQ63s5q/wCoTnn6ai37S WC23dEOJvmHZ1mjb7zMSmO7UQoyOlDMUFCQLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NjXmnD9GqekElb38Si9qxhlwEi1zNeKZPSEnZ0nGTQR6xr7nuy2BVQ9iLIcl/vYTuC Uxi3hk87QAy1PQiuwVTrgOX3wJXPNuZaZ2TJd9PEwQ6mMEwOCD0wlFWogyf+UPS3SdTZ F62DgwwCvEpEyfuVDQQFxy9bE/U3CROGwZ02c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.37.20 with SMTP id v20mr656807qad.216.1296064517151; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:55:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:25:17 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Simplest way to print to a HP USB Printer without HPLIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:55:18 -0000 Hello, How can I print to a HP printer without installing HPLIP? I know the exact filter needed to print to the printer (foo2zjs according to OpenPrinting.org) If it were PARALLEL or SERIAL I could use the handbook but handbook doesn't have any info. about printing to a USB printer. Thanks for help From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 17:59:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF751065674 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413C48FC08 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F2D39888; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:59:37 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rT+99JfkJleo; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:59:36 +0200 (EET) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id DD0D93988D; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:59:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from 179.37.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee (179.37.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee [90.190.37.179]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:59:35 +0200 Message-ID: <20110126195935.179265ug0ms0s3gg@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:59:35 +0200 From: Toomas Aas To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101252210.p0PMAls9059876@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101252210.p0PMAls9059876@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 90.190.37.179 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:13:03 +0000 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dhcpd does not log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:59:38 -0000 Hello, Robert! > I don't think syslog understands '.*' for priority. Actually, according to syslog.conf(5) it should: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- An asterisk (``*'') can be used to specify all facilities, all levels, or all programs. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Try using 'local4.debug' -- that will log anything at 'debug' *OR*HIGHER*. I tried that, but it didn't help. Actually, I have several other daemons logging to various localX facilities and they do work with '*' level in syslog.conf Thanks for taking the time to respond. -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 18:45:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077C4106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0A18FC14 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QIjjJh055100; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:45:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0QIjjmF055097; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:45:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:45:45 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Bahman Kahinpour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:45:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simplest way to print to a HP USB Printer without HPLIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:45:47 -0000 On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > How can I print to a HP printer without installing HPLIP? I know the > exact filter needed to print to the printer (foo2zjs according to > OpenPrinting.org) If it were PARALLEL or SERIAL I could use the > handbook but handbook doesn't have any info. about printing to a USB > printer. The only difference is the device, using /dev/ulpt0 or /dev/unlpt0. My "lpd Printing With FreeBSD" demonstrates: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html But a foo2zjs printer may require a firmware download before it is even detected as a printer, and then foo2zjs probably requires CUPS. There are some threads on forums.freebsd.org that may help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 18:56:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECB2106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA5688FC0C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15381 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2011 18:56:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2011 18:56:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=KinEBaRHVNK1COQriFLl236K+o5fKBCuwuxhgcllixfXypOujZ/WvIyOjGAGT1BIkRjY7si/fRzvtkxPW90EpF/9niVT/509Kd+6FXlMDXRZjDL6GNuev3m+m8lOeIua; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiAXX-0005Lq-1N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:56:24 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:46:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:46:54 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110126184654.GA70914@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20110124235740.GA62134@guilt.hydra> <1295917366.59721.2.camel@main> <20110125030725.GA62670@guilt.hydra> <20110125183619.GA65845@guilt.hydra> <1296052352.64846.2.camel@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1296052352.64846.2.camel@main> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: more CPU being used than I have (?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:56:25 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 02:32:32PM +0000, Craig Butler wrote: >=20 > ASK GOOGLE !!! I DID !!! I must have used a less effective search string than you. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1AbB4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU75wCfZ7nXYQ8Yoycvyhm/BYg7PmkA IQsAoKH6nI8LGwCdNgv5nf8p49CrJxGt =vQ+m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 19:08:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD53E106567A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from 28dayslater.mr.itd.umich.edu (28dayslater.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.12.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A3F8FC14 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) By 28dayslater.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4D406CC5.36E10.28118 ; 26 Jan 2011 13:49:41 EST Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4D406CC3.E9EC2.9209 ; Authuser web; 26 Jan 2011 13:49:39 EST Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:45:52 -0500 From: William Bulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110126184552.GA72717@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:08:41 -0000 Everything up to this point builds okay. Then this happens: Making all in common gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tpo -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory file-pdf.c:70: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:77: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:80: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token file-pdf.c:83: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c: In function 'run': file-pdf.c:330: error: 'PopplerDocument' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:330: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once file-pdf.c:330: error: for each function it appears in.) file-pdf.c:330: error: 'doc' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:331: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code file-pdf.c:356: warning: implicit declaration of function 'open_document' file-pdf.c:364: warning: implicit declaration of function 'load_dialog' file-pdf.c:380: error: 'PopplerPage' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:380: error: 'test_page' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:380: warning: implicit declaration of function 'poppler_document_get_page' file-pdf.c:405: warning: implicit declaration of function 'load_image' file-pdf.c:449: error: 'page' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:453: warning: implicit declaration of function 'poppler_page_get_size' file-pdf.c:458: warning: implicit declaration of function 'get_thumbnail' file-pdf.c:458: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast file-pdf.c: At top level: file-pdf.c:515: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token file-pdf.c:570: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:680: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:729: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'PopplerDocument' file-pdf.c: In function 'thumbnail_thread': file-pdf.c:762: warning: implicit declaration of function 'poppler_document_get_n_pages' file-pdf.c:762: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'document' file-pdf.c:768: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'selector' file-pdf.c:772: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'document' file-pdf.c:773: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast file-pdf.c:777: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'stop_thumbnailing' file-pdf.c: At top level: file-pdf.c:785: error: expected ')' before '*' token gmake[3]: *** [file_pdf-file-pdf.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp. And poppler.h exists here: /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/poppler.h and here: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h and here: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler-gtk/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h and they are all identical. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 19:29:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8869106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC6C8FC18 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so1290635qwj.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:29:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0pSIZqRaamFp4ekJ34ivxUeiEpkVyn6jSJdUzUMpQUI=; b=Tb0Saa+8SiDfJgGfKYVk81gkn/bfyLrRpC/tzOKqssgC9OMAo8+0eXSMbLwowoV5X3 BvpxLBKHuhv/r/n/83Z9iF4rS+5Z0jktd9I0fRi4M8Fnm0qPLHS9xAAedT+AG4j9AVB+ r7rJR3T0DZuuszK67Zy4vyluWHShijxsKt3xY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=A06mVv/SPfk7USH5DLrXxu+7ya3gTwBZI8pLuxed5JAtJfBKZjpmSm8WyV0Q4a24Rc 8ZWjbAeoFfTxu7iV+pitIPvQ7b6a4Tjyxt3QiRkzRZGLNn0eRZ4GJPZeRBJ5w/atnRCS mivqcOk1HIW6GjzCvxDPfoN+INvV1qYyiVuDE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.10 with SMTP id k10mr701165qcm.141.1296070156047; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:29:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:59:16 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: ulpt0 Not Recognized! (HP LaserJet P1102) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:29:17 -0000 Hello, Your guide was very advantageous (thanks a lot) and also I downloaded some of your other guides. So far I understood that the data port for a USB printer becomes /dev/ulpt0 instead of /dev/lpt0 which is for a PARALLEL printer. But, when I turn on my HP printer there is no /dev/ulpt0 while the printer is recognized on the USB bus (checked with usbconfig). Then, the problem is: What should I do so that lpt0 appears in /dev or a HP printer. (I don't really like fancy features of CUPS and HPLIP) I simply need printing! Thanks for help On 1/26/11, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > >> How can I print to a HP printer without installing HPLIP? I know the >> exact filter needed to print to the printer (foo2zjs according to >> OpenPrinting.org) If it were PARALLEL or SERIAL I could use the >> handbook but handbook doesn't have any info. about printing to a USB >> printer. > > The only difference is the device, using /dev/ulpt0 or /dev/unlpt0. My > "lpd Printing With FreeBSD" demonstrates: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html > > But a foo2zjs printer may require a firmware download before it is even > detected as a printer, and then foo2zjs probably requires CUPS. There > are some threads on forums.freebsd.org that may help. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 19:40:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3F31065670 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD648FC22 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1735843bwz.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:39:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7gGUurQEK33yIS/B6LHch35oEO3w27wWlfBptlfnIc0=; b=cANoWfzmmerC4qneexbxD+kzrUMBnVhqplrP2PNqOpqfas38tykLWfE06q4DbH1EAO GWvdx99Kft21tiYb21rNDhSZmQeb59JdufuisAip1oLmBvoHZ4wKmVP3NTPr0rqT9jfu 9r4tesYYoNE4KWc0r5bKu8j5Ml0V9Lthim76E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LtvQ5+NhKHXvkD0eF8L6rvXXgibPAJuaMW21GECadslNd2KijWCtUYUEXXU/FJIUHz 6NbzNTuOMUP4BY/3GeMkim0rCp45eEPpEC8pZS217bae0dPUwarSjElPIMw+YOQF6SeY DqLKiaa0sm2t05SeGPQbZmKbVLKBJnXIzGMhg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.47.227 with SMTP id o35mr775982bkf.132.1296069504391; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.60.205 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:18:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D405CC5.1080505@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <4D405CC5.1080505@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:18:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Rolf Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bahman Kahinpour Subject: Re: HPLIP 3.10.9 problems on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:40:21 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > I am trying to make my HP LaserJet P1102 work on FreeBSD 8.1 and >> towards that goal I installed HPLIP 3.10.9 from the Ports Collection. >> But there are two problems: >> 1.First, when I try to run HPLIP in the GUI (GNOME), it closes once >> it's opened. It remains open for less than a second. >> 2.Second, it does not recognize my printer. When I use the >> command-line tools it just simply does not recognize my printer. This >> is while the printer is recognized on the USB bus, I confirm it by >> using "usbconfig". >> > It seems to me hplip is in a lot of ways just an extension of CUPS. I've had mixed luck with hplip although not with your specific issue. I would try to run the hplip utility you're using from the command line to see where it is failing but you should be able to administer most functions from the cups web interface. I had one printer that was said to be supported which I spend approximately 6 months on and off trying to get to work and never did(the printer did work on a Mac, just not FreeBSD). After replacing it with a different model, it worked immediately and very smoothly. I have hplip installed at other locations and it works well. > If not, try one of them. Hm. I just checked the output of my usbconfig, and it also shows no ulpt, > though I do have it. And I also checked the GENERIC config file, and it does > include ulpt, at least for 8.2-PRERELEASE amd64. So, you may actually have > it. But that's still the first thing I'd look for if I were you. Easy way to check if module is in kernel is "kldstat -v" -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 19:58:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CA7106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066868FC14 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QJw0Hc044580 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:58:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QJw0Ji034505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:58:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0QJw0lu034504; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:58:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:58:00 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Christer Solskogen Message-ID: <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.4 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:58:01 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:58:02 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 26), Christer Solskogen said: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > > My question is: is it possible to migrate the two-disk pool without data > > loss into a mirrored pool by adding the one 2TB-disk? > > No, you cant create a two-way mirror of three disks with ZFS. The only way > of doing what you want by creating a gmirror (or by hardware raid) of the > two 1TB disks. You can, if you partition the 2tb disk into two smaller volumes, each the same size as one of the 1tb disks, then add one of those as a mirror of each original disk. You'll end up with two mirrored vdevs in the pool. Performance probably won't be as good as a real mirror, though, since zfs doesn't know that two of its physical disks share a spindle. Original: pool1 da0 da1 New: pool1 mirror da0 da2p1 mirror da1 da2p2 -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 20:13:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956F3106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EBF8FC15 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22so148677pvc.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:13:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Tmpr5orqzuEObRmMdq6SWSsXEv9AvsT+406ZTNxU7E=; b=XH6SYUJmQt/dwXj002jEQEzXHfQL1IWvf2WBVADppOiRNyoHZVCXdcxYvLphS+cy61 gkohCRA2pKa31Q3r//pPcoVwP4HJh1TZP+fE2lf8okoYJxv6kWDyEJGV61sQUEmmIQk0 eOo3QAU6LHyKO+N5rrCjYfFb/n+qTB9em8sxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NUHtfgZWoLh3d6S1MVtL52p+Bhe6YT1ZGvoaqyMxlRvDomor/lLBkT5vdYVbogFp70 5lqOD4xS6PwJkhQO8CpnpQMwM6AAolztkbHa0K7j0RmHdpnn9iw7GV0W5YNVtbgLA3Vi nzqr4ba2JqSMS+IAV1WsanWDVuV1S5L8vf+/s= Received: by 10.142.156.18 with SMTP id d18mr874014wfe.69.1296072800963; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:13:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.72.2 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:12:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:57 +0100 Message-ID: To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:13:21 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Dan Nelson wrote= : > In the last episode (Jan 26), Christer Solskogen said: >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: >> > My question is: is it possible to migrate the two-disk pool without da= ta >> > loss into a mirrored pool by adding the one 2TB-disk? >> >> No, you cant create a two-way mirror of three disks with ZFS. The only w= ay >> of doing what you want by creating a gmirror (or by hardware raid) of th= e >> two 1TB disks. > > You can, if you partition the 2tb disk into two smaller volumes, each the > same size as one of the 1tb disks, then add one of those as a mirror of e= ach > original disk. =A0You'll end up with two mirrored vdevs in the pool. > Performance probably won't be as good as a real mirror, though, since zfs > doesn't know that two of its physical disks share a spindle. > Rememer that he also asked to do this without data loss. As far as I know you cant remove devices from a vdev. If he is willing to accept data loss there are a lots of ways of doing it. --=20 chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 20:42:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD28106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC058FC18 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QKgXai048949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:42:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QKgXon056774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:42:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0QKgX77056769; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:42:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:42:33 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Christer Solskogen Message-ID: <20110126204233.GN75125@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.4 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:42:34 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:42:35 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 26), Christer Solskogen said: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Jan 26), Christer Solskogen said: > >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> > My question is: is it possible to migrate the two-disk pool without > >> > data loss into a mirrored pool by adding the one 2TB-disk? > >> > >> No, you cant create a two-way mirror of three disks with ZFS. The only > >> way of doing what you want by creating a gmirror (or by hardware raid) > >> of the two 1TB disks. > > > > You can, if you partition the 2tb disk into two smaller volumes, each > > the same size as one of the 1tb disks, then add one of those as a mirror > > of each original disk.  You'll end up with two mirrored vdevs in the > > pool. Performance probably won't be as good as a real mirror, though, > > since zfs doesn't know that two of its physical disks share a spindle. > > Rememer that he also asked to do this without data loss. As far as I know > you cant remove devices from a vdev. If he is willing to accept data loss > there are a lots of ways of doing it. ZFS lets you add and detach mirrors on the fly, since you're not changing the capacity of the pool itself. Sure, you're going to lose the contents of the large 2TB drive, but that's sort of assumed. You can't convert 4TB of non-mirrored disks into 2TB of mirrored disks without losing 2TB of space. Just make sure you have less than 2TB total used data on all volumes, and copy the data off the 2TB filessytem onto the striped 1+1TB one before repartitioning and adding the mirrors. zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device Attaches new_device to an existing zpool device. The existing device cannot be part of a raidz configuration. If _device_ is not currently part of a mirrored configuration, _device_ automatically transforms into a two-way mirror of _device_ and _new_device_. If _device_ is part of a two-way mirror, attaching _new_device_ creates a three-way mirror, and so on. In either case, _new_device_ begins to resilver immediately. (Do not confuse with zpool add, which adds a whole new vdev to the pool. vdevs cannot be removed once added) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 20:47:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777391065673 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483A48FC18 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so154140pzk.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:47:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cz0QJFXWyXrAlErIlTSncqJ6ZoGS2SmzTltdJpgqCwI=; b=P7oqcO4wf8Jmj+WTK1XgeivdbLhowyXk/bp1qXwDSGJRzxs+6e/IfzLVylleBTKl0b M4QyNezHVpn8EgFQcz9sEUcw04xuC8KppARY6sj9Z4WYusqV7BxBnPM15ft14GFuYd5p 9ahsFxbahbTujN5XaZLYTCZDObOIIePcNfKSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G3sh8o6Pki43RssaBIgKiPFnA9JMXhXVu8gNfByvdNsF72H1wsojajsxa/ZUA0HcSF O+vwO21yQ2wLiubEdtqZfQdSgkFGxpMbxB0fIqBfCJZoMcCb4H8kakrM58CO42ynpxLl LE5Yr31GJzKAAaUqKN7TiJWAk1jcPmg7p6XcU= Received: by 10.142.51.8 with SMTP id y8mr905572wfy.183.1296074855687; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:47:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.72.2 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:47:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110126204233.GN75125@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> <20110126204233.GN75125@dan.emsphone.com> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:47:15 +0100 Message-ID: To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:47:36 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Dan Nelson wrote= : > ZFS lets you add and detach mirrors on the fly, since you're not changing > the capacity of the pool itself. =A0Sure, you're going to lose the conten= ts of > the large 2TB drive, but that's sort of assumed. =A0You can't convert 4TB= of > non-mirrored disks into 2TB of mirrored disks without losing 2TB of space= . > Just make sure you have less than 2TB total used data on all volumes, and > copy the data off the 2TB filessytem onto the striped 1+1TB one before > repartitioning and adding the mirrors. > > =A0zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device > The problem is that you cant attach a drive to a vdev that consists of two striped disks. --=20 chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 21:00:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FAC710656A3 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg29.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C878FC17 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (188-221-77-161.zone12.bethere.co.uk [188.221.77.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg29.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QL0oX8030976; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:00:52 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4D408B81.3080000@ifdnrg.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:00:49 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20110125235413.GA69716@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110125235413.GA69716@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Streams fail, more/less. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:00:55 -0000 On 25/01/2011 23:54, Gary Kline wrote: > The _last_ thing that I need to resolve--or at least to understand, is why > streams suddenly stopped working about two weeks ago. With all the other > hassles, I didn't want to check and see if streams worked here on my server > --they don't. The streams stall after a few seconds or a few minutes on my > Ubuntu desktop. The youtube streams always worked before. No more. > > Meanwhile I have no trouble downloading source or packages at 110 to 170kpbs . > But the streams fail: both audio and video. I have zero idea even where to > begin looking to fix this problem. > > Anybody know? > > thanks in advance, > > gary > > > PS: some audio will streams at very slow rate ... but usually stops after a > few minutes. > > this is probably just an insufficient bandwidth problem, check the bitrate of the streams you are listening, try lower bitrate ones ( 64kbps or even 32kbps) to verify that there's no other problem. Check your residential dsl package speed ( i use www.speedtest.net but there might be a better one near you, google dsl speed test). Test it against a local POP that you think hosts streams, ie soemwhere where there's lot of data centers. You will get different download speeds from different services online depending on how they and you are connected, but in general, 170Kbps isn't very fast, especially as a lot of streaming stattions will be 128 or poss even 192Kbps. Paul. ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 21:57:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D160106564A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AFE8FC0A for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1PiDMj-0001Wb-0y>; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:57:25 +0100 Received: from e178018247.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.18.247] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1PiDMi-0000tI-TZ>; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:57:24 +0100 Message-ID: <4D4098C4.6000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:57:24 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101218 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christer Solskogen References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> <20110126204233.GN75125@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.18.247 Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:57:27 -0000 On 01/26/11 21:47, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > >> ZFS lets you add and detach mirrors on the fly, since you're not changing >> the capacity of the pool itself. Sure, you're going to lose the contents of >> the large 2TB drive, but that's sort of assumed. You can't convert 4TB of >> non-mirrored disks into 2TB of mirrored disks without losing 2TB of space. >> Just make sure you have less than 2TB total used data on all volumes, and >> copy the data off the 2TB filessytem onto the striped 1+1TB one before >> repartitioning and adding the mirrors. >> >> zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device >> > > The problem is that you cant attach a drive to a vdev that consists of > two striped disks. > All right, I see there is no way without any kind of trade-off. My thinking was simple, I thought since the two physical 1TB disks build one joint pool of 2TB overall capacity, I could simply 'mirror' this pool to another disk of the same capacity. Is there a way to 'send' via ZFS the data of the pool to the backup disk, like a snapshot from one pool to another one? Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 22:00:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CA910656C8 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8008FC0C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QM0jpx056258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:00:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QM0jYR061487 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:00:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0QM0jDY061486; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:00:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:00:45 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Christer Solskogen Message-ID: <20110126220045.GO75125@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> <20110126204233.GN75125@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.4 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:00:45 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:00:48 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 26), Christer Solskogen said: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > > ZFS lets you add and detach mirrors on the fly, since you're not > > changing the capacity of the pool itself.  Sure, you're going to lose > > the contents of the large 2TB drive, but that's sort of assumed.  You > > can't convert 4TB of non-mirrored disks into 2TB of mirrored disks > > without losing 2TB of space. Just make sure you have less than 2TB > > total used data on all volumes, and copy the data off the 2TB filessytem > > onto the striped 1+1TB one before repartitioning and adding the mirrors. > > > >  zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device > > The problem is that you cant attach a drive to a vdev that consists of two > striped disks. We may have to defer back to Oliver to see exactly how his disks are set up ("zpool status pool1" and "pool2" would be nice), but if he did two "zpool add" commands, he has two independant vdevs in one zpool, and he can mirror each of them with a "zpool attach" command. ZFS doesn't have a "stripe" vdev type. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 22:10:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DBD106566C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FADD8FC12 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0QMAXvb001645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:10:33 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p0QMAXvb001645 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1296079833; bh=OyOZ3jbOvhV87QFg1w0I9V4a7sCEK+ewjY/DTtwubXk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D409BD2.6080201@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2026=20Jan=202011=2022:10:26=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20FreeBSD=20 9/ZFS:=20Striped=20Pool=20(2=20disks)=20migrating=20to=20mirror=20 (onto=0D=0A=20additional=20disk)|References:=20<4D3FDE82.4000105@m ail.zedat.fu-berlin.de>=09=09<20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.co m>=09=09<20110126204233.GN75125@dan.emsphone.com>=09=20<4D4098C4.600 0105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de>|In-Reply-To:=20<4D4098C4.6000105@mai l.zedat.fu-berlin.de>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D 60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3 B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bounda ry=3D"------------enigA7C435896036D539CE274801"; b=YPIMK28BTObuidMGheIE1BTIe5kbqncKyPle5kj5DVvcaXMMGSkgs5Hrj7rwdGYDX Jo3n1UDxqRC+Ie9nsVocEOYzDYmf6LwlFknytqti8/S/UF+S7oj4fL+rE1shFlQTzY /XuhaaabumPq+5ebaZ2pP5CltMlBGmA3Nnp9A0ks= Message-ID: <4D409BD2.6080201@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:10:26 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3FDE82.4000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110126195800.GM75125@dan.emsphone.com> <20110126204233.GN75125@dan.emsphone.com> <4D4098C4.6000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4D4098C4.6000105@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA7C435896036D539CE274801" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9/ZFS: Striped Pool (2 disks) migrating to mirror (onto additional disk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:10:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA7C435896036D539CE274801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/01/2011 21:57, O. Hartmann wrote: > My thinking was simple, I thought since the two physical 1TB disks buil= d > one joint pool of 2TB overall capacity, I could simply 'mirror' this > pool to another disk of the same capacity. > Is there a way to 'send' via ZFS the data of the pool to the backup > disk, like a snapshot from one pool to another one? Yes. Predictably enough the command is 'zfs send ...' -- with a counterpart 'zfs receive ...' See zfs(1) for details. You have to send a snapshot, or the delta between a previous snapshot and a more recent one. However, it's not to difficult to turn that into effectively sending the state of a live filesystem so long as there aren't too many changes going on. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA7C435896036D539CE274801 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1Am9kACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzmjQCdFAtJxfiP6cWELKC3kzktOfJs ogsAoIb6ditIo+i6ESUqi35wFy3N7KLs =aBc1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA7C435896036D539CE274801-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 22:20:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C28106564A; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77EE8FC15; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so1455779qwj.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:20:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FxD0sGdYvENBUuh403cTZ2volsVYaiaMtDTRTtGuk6U=; b=qUKABGO2FGerZI1EmkKrWyPk8d0HXRtgTUQdvj6h+FT4quip5FZ5IevvmD7VmaOUPM zciMF6mYVkuqLnuo08iyn/5v3VuWFgkRkxt0k8RBxMWSV558Kix6RDGi0CzY90skAmqo nyDt6KKpt5LrN5reY/o9El/1g8zuDAPHlR+cI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ppd4z1lLEJqkVKjI5WBmfOIRowbA9VmwfypbJlP2fsz8xEGM9JGpm+VHEE5TK+j2et HG0NxVLGmQlch9HnDtNR2hcvy7NZj4MPgdMse3ywD7YflnFcXSSZ0p2BtpOmGwDzBnJW mfh2ZonGA0fju1XNdIAg9yWxqhLFzIQ9x659g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.65 with SMTP id l1mr855578qac.316.1296080417003; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:20:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:50:16 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Very Important Note on HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:20:18 -0000 Hi dear FreeBSD people, After spending a lot of time on making my HP LaserJet P1102 work on FreeBSD, I found out what the problem is!!! Please tell this to anybody who has problems with HP P1102 on FreeBSD! The problem with this HP model is that it has a fake CD-ROM which contains the Windows drivers. The USB must actually be switched from the CD-ROM mode to the Printer mode in order to work. Otherwise, the printer will not work whatever you do. /dev/ulpt0 will not show up either. ---> The workaround is this: You must (unfortunately) connect the printer to a Windows system and run SIUtility.exe or SIUtility64.exe from the UTIL folder in the Driver CD-ROM (physical CD-ROM that comes with the printer not the fake one) and completely disable this "HP Smart Install" feature. After disabling this feature, everything will be fine on FreeBSD and life will be more beautiful. * Please pass this info on blogs, wikis, ... . I do not want other FreeBSD fans suffer this pain. Good luck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 23:47:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11DB106566B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43258FC0C for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 29F20E801D7; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:47:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:47:55 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: <20110126234755.GB8694@thought.org> References: <20110125235413.GA69716@thought.org> <4D408B81.3080000@ifdnrg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D408B81.3080000@ifdnrg.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Streams fail, more/less. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:47:56 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 09:00:49PM +0000, Paul Macdonald wrote: > On 25/01/2011 23:54, Gary Kline wrote: > >The _last_ thing that I need to resolve--or at least to understand, is why > >streams suddenly stopped working about two weeks ago. With all the other > >hassles, I didn't want to check and see if streams worked here on my server > >--they don't. The streams stall after a few seconds or a few minutes on my > >Ubuntu desktop. The youtube streams always worked before. No more. > > > >Meanwhile I have no trouble downloading source or packages at 110 to 170kpbs . > > But the streams fail: both audio and video. I have zero idea even where to > > begin looking to fix this problem. > > > > Anybody know? > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > gary > > > > > > PS: some audio will streams at very slow rate ... but usually stops after a > > few minutes. > > > > > > this is probably just an insufficient bandwidth problem, check the > bitrate of the streams you are listening, try lower bitrate ones ( > 64kbps or even 32kbps) to verify that there's no other problem. > > Check your residential dsl package speed ( i use www.speedtest.net > but there might be a better one near you, google dsl speed test). > Test it against a local POP that you think hosts streams, ie > soemwhere where there's lot of data centers. > > You will get different download speeds from different services > online depending on how they and you are connected, but in general, > 170Kbps isn't very fast, especially as a lot of streaming stattions > will be 128 or poss even 192Kbps. > I'll check for my mean d/load speed; according to the telco, I've got 1meg down and 864k up. I was watching a youtube stream that went beautifully and quit after 10 minutes. Prior to when things broke, I was able to stream NOVA and lots more video non-stop; and of course no problem with the slower audio. (*sigh*) thanks much. gary PS: I'm seriously/SERIOUSLT thinking of giving up the ghost after ten years and letting Real system admins host my domain. I don't know where to start ....' > Paul. > ------------------------- > > Paul Macdonald > IFDNRG Ltd > Web and video hosting > ------------------------- > t: 0131 5548070 > m: 07534206249 > e: paul@ifdnrg.com > w: http://www.ifdnrg.com > ------------------------- > IFDNRG > 40 Maritime Street > Edinburgh > EH6 6SA > ------------------------- > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 02:56:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F71106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:56:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@weif.net) Received: from maxwell.cjones.org (mail.cjones.org [69.146.226.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B532F8FC16 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by maxwell.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5DA354A64BF; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:36:05 -0700 (MST) From: Keith Seyffarth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:36:05 -0700 Message-ID: <84r5bz13ai.fsf@maxwell.cjones.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Issue upgrading to 7.4, looking for guidance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:56:03 -0000 I recently was having problems with Firefox crashing, which appear to be related to a requirement for semaphore support for Firefox after the upgrade to the new version of GTK. Anyway, this left me with a 7.4 kernel and a 7.2 world. Which I understand is supposed to work. However, this broke CUPS for printing, and I need to be able to print to pdf. This error is generated if I try to build cups, or when cups tries to load on startup: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: ./mantohtml: invalid PT_PHDR >From looking around on-line, it looks like somewhere between 7.2 and 7.4 there was an incompatibility that causes this error in a number of places (printing, samba, etc.) So, it looks like I need to upgrade the rest of the way. But I can't get the upgrade to work. I thought this was where to start: # freebsd-update -r 7.4-RELEASE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. So I ran uname -a to find that this is 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD janet.weif.net 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Jan 20 19:39:15 MST 2011 weif@janet.weif.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JANET i386 so I tried this: # freebsd-update -r 7.4-PRERELEASE upgrade freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.4-PRERELEASE to itself so, um, what do I need to do to address this error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: ./mantohtml: invalid PT_PHDR Keith S. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 02:48:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EF2106566C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C2F8FC0C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so1573040wwf.31 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:48:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RRhH/fp4iE+F+bte3KVXhUoChuS9L3mjfPCSrHjqG/w=; b=YXJHl93tlMM/7DCqf08RXweMe34+0hoZvdoG5cyQZd4tHqoGy55h7YxJqNzXDt/hYT 8K4Mk/dVwxI4o8z+nH0klm65PchcGJRu+Qu8F8mKtYpAfq+hqsj+u3UuMsDGUWoqgvMR /RKvGbVU2dO2+vxzjS/q/xgzUCA5ubZoJnOVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BkkpIVObD82b5Z0Hx4rJMmY1E/HU/Q/+JOTwhk4Xtr5oI4+pNHLgscWiRAZyKJxEAC AyplJaKbhDW7QT3Y50OtZPDGNXDJbti0qXuFnQQ0/S3/DuVP+ruErJ/XM1Q6U10hF17a 8u+gMnlR6lbDwpPNKDEoUzz1AowdGG/pSvLRU= Received: by 10.227.175.4 with SMTP id v4mr330036wbz.204.1296095107067; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.179.238.203] ([212.183.128.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f27sm562802wbf.13.2011.01.26.18.25.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:25:01 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> In-Reply-To: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:36:35 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:48:59 -0000 On 25/01/11 10:11, Daniel Andersson wrote: > Is there a package for doing surveys? Preferably a web solution. > > Any suggestions? Sorry for coming late to the thread with this one. I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website at: http://www.tibble.net/ Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! 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Simon Tibble simon@tibble.net -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 06:03:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462F0106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193058FC12 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D716E803D1; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:03:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:03:42 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Paul Macdonald Message-ID: <20110127060342.GA13612@thought.org> References: <20110125235413.GA69716@thought.org> <4D408B81.3080000@ifdnrg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D408B81.3080000@ifdnrg.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Streams fail, more/less. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:03:44 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 09:00:49PM +0000, Paul Macdonald wrote: > On 25/01/2011 23:54, Gary Kline wrote: > >The _last_ thing that I need to resolve--or at least to understand, is why > >streams suddenly stopped working about two weeks ago. With all the other > >hassles, I didn't want to check and see if streams worked here on my server > >--they don't. The streams stall after a few seconds or a few minutes on my > >Ubuntu desktop. The youtube streams always worked before. No more. > > > >Meanwhile I have no trouble downloading source or packages at 110 to 170kpbs . > > But the streams fail: both audio and video. I have zero idea even where to > > begin looking to fix this problem. > > > > Anybody know? > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > gary > > > > > > PS: some audio will streams at very slow rate ... but usually stops after a > > few minutes. > > > > > > this is probably just an insufficient bandwidth problem, check the > bitrate of the streams you are listening, try lower bitrate ones ( > 64kbps or even 32kbps) to verify that there's no other problem. > > Check your residential dsl package speed ( i use www.speedtest.net > but there might be a better one near you, google dsl speed test). > Test it against a local POP that you think hosts streams, ie > soemwhere where there's lot of data centers. > > You will get different download speeds from different services > online depending on how they and you are connected, but in general, > 170Kbps isn't very fast, especially as a lot of streaming stattions > will be 128 or poss even 192Kbps. > > Paul. > ------------------------- Well, according to the results from speedtest.net, I have a download rate of 1.31Mb/s, an uplad rate of 0.70Mb.s, and ping at 61ms from nearby renton. Seems plenty fast. What's wrong with my streaming? (I did get some warning that my new Ubuntu 10.10 needs flash, but I can't figure that out. ---BEsides, I primarily care about audio streams which shouldn't relay on anything flash.) So:: still a question. gary > > Paul Macdonald > IFDNRG Ltd > Web and video hosting > ------------------------- > t: 0131 5548070 > m: 07534206249 > e: paul@ifdnrg.com > w: http://www.ifdnrg.com > ------------------------- > IFDNRG > 40 Maritime Street > Edinburgh > EH6 6SA > ------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 07:25:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8C11065672 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AF78FC19 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiME4-0002uh-Me for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:25:04 +0100 Received: from office.cellnetrix.com ([80.243.14.38]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:25:04 +0100 Received: from konstantin.vasiliev by office.cellnetrix.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:25:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Konstantin Vasilyev Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:19:32 +0300 Lines: 50 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: office.cellnetrix.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Subject: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: konstantin.vasiliev@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:25:07 -0000 Hi all! I have installed %uname -a FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #3: Tue Jan 25 19:19:34 MSK 2011 kvasilev@ota2.cellnetrix.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I have @daily freebsd-update cron in root's crontab. Why does freebsd-update mail me the following? > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 7.3-RELEASE from update4.FreeBSD.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > The following files are affected by updates, but no changes have > been downloaded because the files have been modified locally: > /var/db/mergemaster.mtree > > The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.3-RELEASE-p4: > /boot/kernel/kernel > /boot/kernel/kernel.symbols > /boot/kernel/nfsclient.ko > /boot/kernel/nfsclient.ko.symbols > /usr/lib/libbz2.a > /usr/lib/libbz2_p.a > /usr/lib/libopie.a > /usr/lib/libopie_p.a > /usr/lib/libssl.a > /usr/lib/libssl_p.a > /usr/lib/libstand.a > /usr/share/man/man2/mount.2.gz > /usr/share/man/man2/nmount.2.gz > /usr/share/man/man2/unmount.2.gz > /usr/src/contrib/opie/libopie/readrec.c > /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/mount.2 > /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh > /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c > /usr/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_vfsops.c Who can give me ideas what's happening? -- With best regards, Konstantin Vasilyev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 08:35:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1E91065694 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from briandef@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com) Received: from jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (c-76-102-204-22.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.204.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E9E8FC1A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0R7uIrQ053233; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:56:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from briandef@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com) Received: (from briandef@localhost) by jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0R7uIGw053232; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:56:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from briandef) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:56:18 -0800 From: Brian DeFreitas To: Konstantin Vasilyev Message-ID: <20110127075618.GA53094@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:35:53 -0000 Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: > Hi all! > > I have installed > %uname -a > FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #3: > Tue Jan 25 19:19:34 MSK 2011 > kvasilev@ota2.cellnetrix.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > I have > @daily freebsd-update cron > in root's crontab. > > Why does freebsd-update mail me the following? [...] > Who can give me ideas what's happening? Have you checked the man page for freebsd-update(8) ? cron Sleep a random amount of time between 1 and 3600 seconds, then download updates as if the fetch command was used. If updates are downloaded, an email will be sent (to root or a different address if specified via the -t option or in the configuration file). Sounds exactly like the expected behavior to me. So, the cron subcommand only does the 'fetch' part of freebsd-update. You'll still need to run 'freebsd-update install' to actually install the updates. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 08:37:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514441065675 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1139F8FC08 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so540914gxk.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/2WKjSawGpTgRb1oXyGGeJr7ofjeG5eyfm9bLO7lRvk=; b=X6R6wglugmnW+xW9xcu2JTtAib3aRVW4s1r5lCooJDalCzdxHJRYZmK2Z18GFsEN9V V1rgGeo/U7KEmBvIh3PwpIjfbicfMcp0BDNQEOSBNhoyRKV8FOSp9ALnsFJ1C5kdvzzo u4Ty16nIV+N0DlD4964kiKyM/tZDIO5eii484= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kD9ePzFXsfBe6kYk2jr3MSXX86Krrb8hH8X6934SvBHebiRj+/G/alxugvIVT+IoTH v8alk1KZa+4vOsAk0aPct8mXvLWyPfL1uCQnRxkgYzgsoxrjcPi3Huu2OpqSsYCNSB6Q HcFXVvYwq2IxPQGgZTeXQaeKwx3VAEVaWbyJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.109.146 with SMTP id s18mr1365106yhg.28.1296117454092; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.110.10 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:37:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:37:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: OT: How to set a timeout for a process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:37:35 -0000 I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the script (no harm done if it fails) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 09:02:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEEC106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32318FC15 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiNkj-0000Uj-Kz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:02:53 +0100 Received: from office.cellnetrix.com ([80.243.14.38]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:02:53 +0100 Received: from konstantin.vasiliev by office.cellnetrix.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:02:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Konstantin Vasilyev Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:02:13 +0300 Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <20110127075618.GA53094@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: office.cellnetrix.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 In-Reply-To: <20110127075618.GA53094@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> Subject: Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: konstantin.vasiliev@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:02:57 -0000 I know about how freedsd-update work. I use for a long time. But I don't understand why is freebsd-update going to update > FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 to > The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.3-RELEASE-p4:... -- With best regards, Konstantin Vasilyev 27.01.2011 10:56, Brian DeFreitas : > Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> I have installed >> %uname -a >> FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #3: >> Tue Jan 25 19:19:34 MSK 2011 >> kvasilev@ota2.cellnetrix.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >> I have >> @daily freebsd-update cron >> in root's crontab. >> >> Why does freebsd-update mail me the following? > [...] >> Who can give me ideas what's happening? > > Have you checked the man page for freebsd-update(8) ? > > cron Sleep a random amount of time between 1 and 3600 seconds, > then download updates as if the fetch command was used. If > updates are downloaded, an email will be sent (to root or a > different address if specified via the -t option or in the > configuration file). > > Sounds exactly like the expected behavior to me. > > So, the cron subcommand only does the 'fetch' part of freebsd-update. > You'll still need to run 'freebsd-update install' to actually install > the updates. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 09:27:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF5A106566C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexandrsushko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC868FC18 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so1002699eyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:27:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8wu7P8dUUPWz3R1eGwFHhF/W+pxIKIyo1kc6NHt7lV0=; b=uX2uZzRC4zdmE6yFn7MIcAGaTwWYQQP8OHGPHq8QDJQbOvIaguDZZK7UEezNienVPZ 1sGOmDCYvJtfyKszmOZNqTzfJ8meylygGpuzOVPN0z+/Uh/94KMSctvXZg7vfFnXNLWb qPb5HESoPyh+OEP+1/3zpwtrrRHjPrqdtbq+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZCffkqvQ05hhYlK059h531g114AesyhQwxBm85fChWlvA2wYyTGI1jRq0IZ55JlyPL hi18IDumI+u1MLJjjPiRI2fvMu5GKLPQQsEnhlE6RBQQg5YZAa97pHPRxCJmYv3ceRBj ObKxXfP/ci+QbGsY5p8kUrrqIX/mNZmEkxYL0= Received: by 10.14.37.138 with SMTP id y10mr1718445eea.43.1296118607387; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([77.41.95.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x54sm12750940eeh.17.2011.01.27.00.56.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:56:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D41334D.3040103@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:56:45 +0300 From: Alexandr Sushko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101230 Lanikai/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:27:43 -0000 On 01/13/2011 11:28 PM, David Demelier wrote: > Hello folks, > > I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation > date. We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the > FreeBSD kernel is possible. > > I think searching a file absolutely not touched ever in the system can > helps but which one? > > markand@Melon ~ $ ls -l /root/.cshrc > -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 798 19 Jul 04:17 /root/.cshrc > > It seems that this file has the FreeBSD dist access time so can't > refers to neither. > > Do you have any clue? > > Cheers, > Try to use not ls -l, but ls -lc. It will show you file creation time. ls -lcd /bin/, for example drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Dec 10 00:31 /bin/ -- Best regards, Alexandr Sushko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 09:31:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858E71065675 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from briandef@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com) Received: from jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (c-76-102-204-22.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.204.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3659D8FC20 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0R9Vt5Z055319; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:31:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from briandef@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com) Received: (from briandef@localhost) by jackstaff.jumbobrian.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0R9VtpC055318; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:31:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from briandef) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:31:55 -0800 From: Brian DeFreitas To: Konstantin Vasilyev Message-ID: <20110127093155.GA54987@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> References: <20110127075618.GA53094@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:31:56 -0000 Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: > I know about how freedsd-update work. > I use for a long time. > But I don't understand why is freebsd-update going to update > > FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 > to > > The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.3-RELEASE-p4:... Ah, I see the problem now. The only thing I can think of is that your kernel and world might be out of sync, but if you're used to freebsd-update that seems unlikely. What's the output of 'freebsd-update IDS' ? I've had luck running that to see what freebsd-update thinks is going on with the system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 11:49:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A271065679; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D59D8FC17; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so1416210iyb.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:49:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BU2K6ydXz7OEecB4Z474Uy0ZrIMM+wRYHLtv27BsTtA=; b=ONTLUz9lK/Uj9/UxD9047a6o9AZY0DCYIQwRRfWJ6ZLveEl6NAVjdfyzmwm3YfGxxN R9sbP73Clb6Lw0nZcWIeiTWsDClTxA6BzTNIRItaes3lsPC4GV8QtQQlEN86LgYX/9vD ETYEo3Gvu5QN6oma0XmHhf9L52yfc5YLn0cuA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TiaA1xhwiVo8+QTU8yup2AE6ZAZPKEjrkDFobyrOU5FukXRsESBKSlkx0WYQqWIaYG OONjYc3xZfmY8gd7gsj8CpHaq3/IWSPDpeNFKXnZ7tPbMmlBLakKONoF34XiCFPn9W81 uxnka/uUt3Z0Teo53M0jJ5QFFH7qsZTu2Kv7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.35.204 with SMTP id q12mr727480ibd.191.1296127491502; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.162.79 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:24:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:24:51 -0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" To: Bahman Kahinpour Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very Important Note on HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:49:02 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > Hi dear FreeBSD people, > After spending a lot of time on making my HP LaserJet P1102 work on > FreeBSD, I found out what the problem is!!! Please tell this to > anybody who has problems with HP P1102 on FreeBSD! > The problem with this HP model is that it has a fake CD-ROM which > contains the Windows drivers. The USB must actually be switched from > the CD-ROM mode to the Printer mode in order to work. Otherwise, the > printer will not work whatever you do. /dev/ulpt0 will not show up > either. > ---> The workaround is this: You must (unfortunately) connect the > printer to a Windows system and run SIUtility.exe or SIUtility64.exe > from the UTIL folder in the Driver CD-ROM (physical CD-ROM that comes > with the printer not the fake one) and completely disable this "HP > Smart Install" feature. After disabling this feature, everything will > be fine on FreeBSD and life will be more beautiful. > * Please pass this info on blogs, wikis, ... . I do not want other > FreeBSD fans suffer this pain. > Good luck First of all, I must make clear that regardless the fact that I work for HP and have been working on Laserjet printer firmware for more that five years -- though not on this particular printer model -- I'm speaking for myself, not for the company. >From my own experience, you will probably achieve much better results from HP printers if you choose the network-enabled models (those whose names have a "n" or "w" suffix), not the host-based ones. This is especially true regarding printer management, since the net-enabled printers have an embedded web server. They also support management and monitoring via SNMP, which is very helpful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 12:10:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04881065670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985938FC0A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so1968074iwn.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:10:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=Z5ibBwhCExkJTJUXrD8YlDRl4EM+2E7xxSQQXrJF9SQ=; b=Lucf1fqYEPZyoouNmihlDvnnRvhWbF/UrwVyXH/5PWQRNu8AXMJat/FJ8HWaT9yUmZ MINPJz8W9jJD5Iq8hCtXkRfo5yu8G7N0kHVbHd/MNIEVxgbx5/rrz9dVcsJt+ylxtZtI G83turoPK7Xh2uwrkT2H7GXzQBnsF5uGgwYv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=mykUuIbm4ehXjoGsB3uG3zo+uYaFDekq5iax98oSAhQzEeMpJmvmzDaP8uUPqJZqe+ gZV+NphlKlfNwPGj7T8vIRrc7Sob6PLyJafIMrYhvPLEgwi6IkG4/eHm4AGlZPieWMnt LWtWHZw0Gyj1ofFQXCA9wIw4xoDgPUIWBc3GA= Received: by 10.42.221.133 with SMTP id ic5mr2027528icb.212.1296130208940; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d13sm6802123ice.4.2011.01.27.04.10.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:10:08 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:09:58 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201101270609.59227.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: future of the desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:10:09 -0000 "Thanks to Solid's new UPower, UDev and UDisks backends, the deprecated HAL is no longer needed to manage hardware on Linux. Applications do not need to be updated to make use of these new backends. The HAL backend is still available for systems that do not support UPower. " It happened with XFCE and now the same story with KDE. Is GNOME next? How looks like the future of desktop on FreeBSD or is time to install Linux here? Thanks in advance. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 12:19:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184161065672 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sa@mbg.se) Received: from server3.mbg.se (c-7-202-233-83.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.202.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9401F8FC1F for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dator1.hbg.mbg.se (server7 [83.233.202.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server3.mbg.se (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0RCJlCR093403 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sa@mbg.se) Message-ID: <4D4162E3.90504@mbg.se> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:47 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sven-=C5ke_Svensson?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101216 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3FE9DE.8070203@mbg.se> <20110126124222.341dcad0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on server3.mbg.se Subject: Re: Monting nfs at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:19:53 -0000 2011-01-26 17:12, Warren Block skrev: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:31:10 +0100, Sven-ke Svensson wrote: >>> When booting amd64 it looks like it try to mount the nfs directories >>> before the network is up. On the screen I can see that it try to mount >>> and then there is a line telling that the network interface is up. There >>> it locks up for some minutes before it continue and mounting. >>> [...] >>> Maybe there are some easy configuration fix, but I can't find it. >> >> Check out the -l option of mount, and the corresponding >> keyword "late" in /etc/fstab. See "man mount" for details. >> Also see /etc/rc.d/mountlate to learn how it works (and >> if it fits your requirements). > > Using SYNCDHCP instead of just DHCP in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig lines may > also help. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi That solved it. When I changed from a fixed ip-address to SYNCDHCP it started up as it should. I don't really understand why it don't work with a fixed address. But it does not matter as long as I don't have to wait five minutes for a startup. Thank you for your help. Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 12:20:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BA81065672 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12DA8FC20 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161FB3D058; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:20:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p0RCK6vc002086; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:20:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:20:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" Message-Id: <20110127132005.0b6ae2b8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bahman Kahinpour Subject: Re: Very Important Note on HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:20:09 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:24:51 -0200, "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" wrote: > From my own experience, you will probably achieve much better results > from HP printers if you choose the network-enabled models (those whose > names have a "n" or "w" suffix), not the host-based ones. I can just encourage ANYONE who wants easy printing, be it at home or in the office, to STAY AWAY from USB printers. Networking printers give you much more flexibility and advantages, and even if their price tag is different from what you might know from the consumer crap shelf in the local store, they are worth their money. Using HP printers myself, I was always lucky chosing those that can be used via network. I may also repeat one of my older statements: If you don't mind using USED hardware, get used OFFICE printers for cheap. They are still good and in most cases FULLY sufficient for home use. I'm using a HLP Laserjet 4000 duplex myself here at home for some years now, and it works PERFECTLY since first try - an experience NOT common to "modern" printers. > This is > especially true regarding printer management, since the net-enabled > printers have an embedded web server. They often do also have a built-in printer queue, so basically you're querying the PRINTER with the lp* commands - in most cases very efficient. > They also support management and > monitoring via SNMP, which is very helpful. Maybe not at home, but in any office setting, it's a welcome help. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 12:24:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD6F106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4DA8FC17 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3283D0A1; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p0RCONJj002103; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: ajtiM Message-Id: <20110127132423.cdb66a2a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201101270609.59227.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201101270609.59227.lumiwa@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: future of the desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:24:25 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:09:58 -0600, ajtiM wrote: > "Thanks to Solid's new UPower, UDev and UDisks backends, the deprecated HAL is > no longer needed to manage hardware on Linux. Applications do not need to be > updated to make use of these new backends. The HAL backend is still available > for systems that do not support UPower. " > > It happened with XFCE and now the same story with KDE. Is GNOME next? > How looks like the future of desktop on FreeBSD or is time to install Linux > here? Well, it's not that "desktop == Xfce || desktop == KDE". :-) Maybe the Linux folks won't be happy with the U* either as it will surely be depricated at the moment it fully works. Regarding your question: I think it will be possible to keep Xfce and KDE running, but they won't be in fully functional state then. I'm not a KDE user (and not a Xfce user anymore), so I can't be more specific. Keep in mind that all the "magic" the U* are doing on Linux have been done by FreeBSD's devd for many years now. Maybe this is the chance to revert to a WORKING and STABLE infra- structure on FreeBSD. Just remember: FreeBSD had "hotplug capabilities" and "automounter" for many years, even BEFORE HAL and DBUS came to desktop land. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 12:19:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC126106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654A58FC1A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiQpJ-0002qE-By for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:49 +0100 Received: from office.cellnetrix.com ([80.243.14.38]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:49 +0100 Received: from konstantin.vasiliev by office.cellnetrix.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Konstantin Vasilyev Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:19:17 +0300 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <20110127075618.GA53094@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> <20110127093155.GA54987@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: office.cellnetrix.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 In-Reply-To: <20110127093155.GA54987@jackstaff.jumbobrian.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:45:02 +0000 Subject: Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: konstantin.vasiliev@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:19:50 -0000 Ok. Things a not good :-( freebsd-update produce a lot of output like this > /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c has SHA256 hash 893beadfcf15784f31553ea142867c2949422d6937cb61f11a0f42ae3d7727fc, but should have SHA256 hash ce374f0d9434d08ee35769f8cbad7ca074506b814394b30d19d2aebcf3b2a29c. > /usr/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_vfsops.c has SHA256 hash 7a69b307a5df13994c8c229946e3f20cdb22268ca967f596c70477c82250c7d2, but should have SHA256 hash 397e464eea58b339597b4a3ee6117ad9b58827814462131153070c2a067e357d. > /usr/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_vfsops.c has SHA256 hash 7a69b307a5df13994c8c229946e3f20cdb22268ca967f596c70477c82250c7d2, but should have SHA256 hash c54c0c265e22fdb7a323680ccbc25859fc171ebec485a68a06eae774683321ab. > /usr/src/usr.bin/lex/mkskel.sh has 0755 permissions, but should have 0744 permissions. > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/tkpkg has 0755 permissions, but should have 0754 permissions. My system is out of sync now. Question is How can I sync my system? -- With best regards, Konstantin Vasilyev 27.01.2011 12:31, Brian DeFreitas : > Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: >> I know about how freedsd-update work. >> I use for a long time. >> But I don't understand why is freebsd-update going to update >>> FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 >> to >>> The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.3-RELEASE-p4:... > > Ah, I see the problem now. > > The only thing I can think of is that your kernel and world might be out > of sync, but if you're used to freebsd-update that seems unlikely. > > What's the output of 'freebsd-update IDS' ? I've had luck running that > to see what freebsd-update thinks is going on with the system. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 13:34:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D52D106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D695E8FC13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so1505754iyb.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.35.68 with SMTP id o4mr932463ibd.118.1296135297989; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:34:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.143.1 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:34:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:34:37 -0500 Message-ID: To: Aryeh Friedman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: How to set a timeout for a process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:34:59 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are > unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to > say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the > script (no harm done if it fails) If you are willing to be bash specific: http://www.bashcookbook.com/bashinfo/source/bash-4.0/examples/scripts/timeout3 I'm not exactly sure how to do it in a normal POSIX shell. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 13:39:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50091106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0684B8FC0C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so639739gyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:39:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=omUHXBBAFE+IY6K8E+IjZ+QFolYQGnnf5XWZFxHYZvk=; b=cbye865QrguJhR+BgeFOsXRVB7vnDQScCLll4qvrrtc90MzMT/NLIY46z5+71wE3uU lb2C5dAkCp88G0uEKZpNkk/LIGN4/0/kWjXqiQ1GLQ9oetBvBh8imIAV82ikD/VDXhAL UcgYSc9ZzBDI0s/uo1JQm4bVEUBPOlgyvOlKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=rHLCbqX6uHBGwoVAsOFlEHAjvjnYA3jqG9fP7eDqMcffHg3ilEq15OSAJeep4lcyaD 0YmPRrfdrT8EE7jtRRoGjmmfvyCsj9LNgnR7Jgu8PjGglQWLt5joEBV0q0eEor/zUQsE FkWjyweR11BjWyS6zA93+0BbXN8wFELA6ZOJk= Received: by 10.150.240.4 with SMTP id n4mr2647166ybh.449.1296135580212; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.166.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q31sm10898299yba.6.2011.01.27.05.39.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:39:39 -0800 (PST) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: ajtiM In-Reply-To: <201101270609.59227.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201101270609.59227.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0200 Message-ID: <1296135575.2036.22.camel@z6000.lenzinote> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: future of the desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:39:41 -0000 Em Qui, 2011-01-27 às 06:09 -0600, ajtiM escreveu: > "Thanks to Solid's new UPower, UDev and UDisks backends, the deprecated HAL is > no longer needed to manage hardware on Linux. Applications do not need to be > updated to make use of these new backends. The HAL backend is still available > for systems that do not support UPower. " > > It happened with XFCE and now the same story with KDE. Is GNOME next? > How looks like the future of desktop on FreeBSD or is time to install Linux > here? Just my thoughts... I was looking at the Netbsd, it has been slow for eons, till money came.. I think that is the same with FreeBSD. I have a company here in Brazil that makes FreeBSD servers, and IP telephony using asterisk and gatekeepers (to router video). It has been around for about a year now, I must make a step forward, so I try to hire some people or to teach them to program in gtk, and build some parts that freebsd is missing: (webcam, wireless network manage, printers, ...) I realize that it is very difficult and would take a lot of time. The solution :I will try is to make money selling servers, and cryptography (gely) virtual desktops using vnc, access to remote windows running on virtualboxes... and with this money, hire people in the internet (or in the freeBSD community) to finish the missing parts, and than donate the code back to freebsd... That is not a lot of money, for what I see, about US$5000.00 a month would fix a lot of things. and is is cheaper that hire employees here and pay all the costs... This way, I can make what I do best: the Servers, virtualboxes, selling, support, databases. and let the other things (printers, wireless network manager=wicd, printer, scanner, webcam, ekiga, some crap notebooks...) to a stuff hired in internet... Here I can pay them as "tecnological apport" and deduce the money from the IRS... Am I right or am I wrong??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 13:47:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED24106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234338FC1B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so1518359iyb.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.206.1 with SMTP id fs1mr924527ibb.193.1296136047497; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:47:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.143.1 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:47:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:47:07 -0500 Message-ID: To: Aryeh Friedman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: How to set a timeout for a process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:47:28 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are > unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to > say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the > script (no harm done if it fails) or in addition to my previous answer use /usr/ports/sysutils/timelimit -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 14:25:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11651065673 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan0sch@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F84D8FC1E for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Jan 2011 14:25:39 -0000 Received: from dslb-088-072-205-116.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO magni) [88.72.205.116] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 15:25:39 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1545395 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/zbE4Z3qHzkAPn6vfGbbbo47cy4X65rGwpK3hMBo jOkseHb/7b6vqQ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:24:53 +0100 From: Jens Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110127152453.8377cc77.jan0sch@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110127132423.cdb66a2a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201101270609.59227.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20110127132423.cdb66a2a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: &?!P`87-36gaG)/K:yi&ixw=uy]y'?$vrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__27_Jan_2011_15_24_53_+0100_Hl.XiGfuDknK6uY=" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: future of the desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:25:42 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__27_Jan_2011_15_24_53_+0100_Hl.XiGfuDknK6uY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:23 +0100 Polytropon wrote: P> Keep in mind that all the "magic" the U* are doing on Linux P> have been done by FreeBSD's devd for many years now. Maybe P> this is the chance to revert to a WORKING and STABLE infra- P> structure on FreeBSD. Just remember: FreeBSD had "hotplug P> capabilities" and "automounter" for many years, even BEFORE P> HAL and DBUS came to desktop land. Amen. :-) --=20 27. Hartung 2011, 15:24 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de The gentlemen looked one another over with microscopic carelessness. --Signature=_Thu__27_Jan_2011_15_24_53_+0100_Hl.XiGfuDknK6uY= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQG8BAEBCgAGBQJNQYBaAAoJED2+SXzzbciGB60NAJPKIhbjMeR18OucKJUe0rZL zarPPT3WqZ3wDnz9nZGIXawi+wmXFemQ6sljyF2wNJH+X4jPVSmwXtYQJqI3Fs2P 6PmUepE3doOs7hR/X1fCz6D+uBTbqPAUPRfd3n6TZLs9mH0U5DRPNMPCI3dUFOLD 3+fQDfmXUAOeESI+KxyHVDJa7cAc4CyffPo+S9k6V8yTIi8DktjKlOhGKHmrwXiO yWFogANXy0buzoAd5+k/bQpaPiYQ6Nb3Xt6FVdn1hEvJxBOgJ9XhM+7P/dtpX6eX M8li9rVRIzxDa22m4jOH/ZRy+cjKEO1SLmNidSBrJmZcuOtgsjUpiymCyDv/7gUN RgEcY8Jj2PEts5NOgRFDkKoSleAlCnsRe9XxwPLhraY6j7dyiXhLsyZz/IKSyAzQ 5fquG8PM2YePD5PiGh54cgpd3Cv903oPQfWNOra0/Sj82B0bvMag+uyomp7K3IKd Qf6VAkp+tuHsXQQYl7ijDyrD2f9e4SUxka4gyF/0JCqBUVRhE0Yq8qUk1KyPzqqw +QorXW32bycUH8d8kSBi =Z8K+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__27_Jan_2011_15_24_53_+0100_Hl.XiGfuDknK6uY=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 14:56:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E318106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350F68FC1D for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so2121482iwn.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:56:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KJf6ngWNgSd+7nnsc9aQRBiVEATj4NPAji7aGlszRvk=; b=SsLjH++6V9+zdyIVMMRmbJq7lB7Jkd0i/qMgbLvswMNecmfaqDhNxnARC9fSOOLSRn nYq+Uvz7wKt9hNwMkAzLy9mxPiebj7GMx5rpoNXo+TgbcW4k6jdEW9mVC3a/e95aSyVH HbPdkuPU7WFmxOrA+og+bWkEWxi7wTp1PTURU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TE/Gcth3rfjp6wBklUOs341f04hyUHqtojpd1Lv2dxfZtYfQHa44KZkP4hXDBT3one HDX//WtutL6IpoEQFjtW7M+G+npVSvwZuA/qTsLDzOw2gaJh+dzRnmxNaSPrfzta09o/ i8+RAOG3z1xvEf5i+ea3/4bRlZ1LcMWMeRhjY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.180.130 with SMTP id bu2mr2314002icb.18.1296140184066; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.131.69 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110127152453.8377cc77.jan0sch@gmx.net> References: <201101270609.59227.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20110127132423.cdb66a2a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110127152453.8377cc77.jan0sch@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:56:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Jens Jahnke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: future of the desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:56:26 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jens Jahnke wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:23 +0100 > Polytropon wrote: > > P> Keep in mind that all the "magic" the U* are doing on Linux > P> have been done by FreeBSD's devd for many years now. Maybe > P> this is the chance to revert to a WORKING and STABLE infra- > P> structure on FreeBSD. Just remember: FreeBSD had "hotplug > P> capabilities" and "automounter" for many years, even BEFORE > P> HAL and DBUS came to desktop land. > > Amen. :-) Yes, but DBus is a generic IPC system. It is just slightly related to automounting and hotpluging. I mean, DBus is an easy way for communicating processes that provides, among other things, activation of well-known services. That's it's goal. On the other side, I think HAL is not necessary at all since devd is enough to do that. Cheers > > -- > 27. Hartung 2011, 15:24 > Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de > > The gentlemen looked one another over with microscopic carelessness. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 14:59:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3E5106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au) Received: from mail.affinityvision.com.au (ns1.affinityvision.com.au [58.96.65.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5D88FC0C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s241.affinityvision.com.au ([192.168.0.241] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mail.affinityvision.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiT3i-000119-IZ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:42:52 +1100 Message-ID: <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:41:24 +1100 From: Andrew McGlashan Organization: Affinity Vision Australia Pty Ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: elbbit References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110127-0, 27/01/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Authenticated-User: Yes X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.0.241 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on www.affinityvision.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.affinityvision.com.au) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:59:13 -0000 Hi Simon, elbbit wrote: > I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website at: > http://www.tibble.net/ > > Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... > For anyone who is half in the know about the goings on in the world, and > are aware of Project Venus or the Zeitgeist Movement, you will > understand that there is a growing concern over many global issues: > - over-population of the planet > - resources might run out (as a result of too many people) > - money is a form of slavery > - the choices available to us are set by corporations/governments, not > by us the people > ... the list goes on. The problem with many "leading" questions [as per your site] is that you can't agree / disagree with the question properly as there are grey areas. You might somewhat agree with each argument, so you are unable to choose b/w either given answer in a simple y/n situation. There are often at least three answers to a question, "your" answer, an "opposing" answer and the "correct" answer; however that trivializes the fact that multiple answers could be equally correct for different people with or without further argument -- but if you define the question to rigidly, you can't give fair license to get the answer that is truly relevant for the responder. I think back to the good old Eliza program, back in my late primary school days in the era of the TRS-80 and Apple ][e computers. The program asks a simple question, then depending on your response, it will ask further questions along the way to get to an artificial point of "knowing" the answer. Not sure if this helps, but along those lines, you could perhaps ask simple questions and build a tree to allow people to always give very short and un-ambiguous answers which they can agree with and not end up on the shelf trying to decide an impossible "right" answer for them based on the question which doesn't give them enough scope to answer properly and therefore let the asker know what is really thought by the responder. Inevitably, many forum polls have the same problem. Limit the available choices and you can't get appropriate or meaningful results. There are always other options that aren't seen in the poll. This might give you an idea: http://www.mobygames.com/game/trs-80/eliza -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:03:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD44106566C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404748FC1E for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiUK8-0006Qo-I2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:03:54 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:03:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:03:50 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110127160349.GA72285@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:03:59 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth elbbit on Thursday, 27 January 2011: >=20 > Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! >=20 Saying it's not spam doesn't make it not spam. >=20 > Please forward this message to everyone, even if you know full well they > probably won't read or understand it. This message must travel the > matrix in order to flourish. >=20 This is a call to join your spam army. No thanks. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNQZdlAAoJEIpckszW26+R4uEIAJOHXiopJzd27mlXuYLVp+nj fs5H/6+MwUQ/ta9cAx8PK1e+dEXVWp885befCaL9hDEMVFtelngA81YpVaN6f5ld sElh+6gJLxeYdJryGQKZ4yALNN0iFkbUr3U1Mnf678qOrPpYlyIgdT+dHHdjzW/z N2H7Qz0kchuG2O7gGFlTSpIFloknw4WFMLu1HQm4pL/nvm1fOpqDynMAEU97Wfam tib1rFN21FV8yxI9p9SSY0uuRpznekbCzCMwo9U2rA6IbfTrmv8PnA1pLIsbWU1q XqiSOdwqeCUP6tP0mk8QqT+KffP0IHCFG4qusGM81wqeY+ubCKDDba8nqYDAloM= =Vrg3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:04:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BF01065673 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF7F8FC12 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13911 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2011 16:04:10 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Jan 2011 16:04:10 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CA5C650822; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:04:08 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110126184552.GA72717@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:04:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20110126184552.GA72717@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> (William Bulley's message of "Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:45:52 -0500") Message-ID: <44hbcu5o5j.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:04:11 -0000 William Bulley writes: > Everything up to this point builds okay. Then this happens: > > Making all in common > gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tpo -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c > file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory [...] > And poppler.h exists here: > > /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/poppler.h > > and here: > > /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h > > and here: > > /usr/ports/graphics/poppler-gtk/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h > > and they are all identical. Only the first counts, and it's the one that should be used. You may be doing something strange in the build; you don't mention how you started the build. Definitely make sure you do a "make clean" before restarting it, and make sure that poppler shows up up in the list of installed ports ("pkg_info"). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:21:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FF41065670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1C08FC17 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so1665524iyb.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.230.137 with SMTP id jm9mr2368725icb.317.1296145280114; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:21:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.202 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:20:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D41334D.3040103@gmail.com> References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> <4D41334D.3040103@gmail.com> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:20:59 -0500 Message-ID: To: Alexandr Sushko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:21:21 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Alexandr Sushko wrote: > Try to use not ls -l, but ls -lc. It will show you file creation time. > > > ls -lcd /bin/, for example > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Dec 10 00:31 /bin/ > > I ran this and the earliest date I found was Oct 12, 2008 which seems to be around when I migrated from 7.2 to 7.3 and this box has been alive since 6.0-RELEASE, it's a good 5-6 yrs old.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:26:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3441065670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9A58FC26 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4D419CC1.3E551.6702 ; Authuser web; 27 Jan 2011 11:26:41 EST Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:22:54 -0500 From: William Bulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110127162254.GD93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lowell Gilbert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:26:45 -0000 According to Lowell Gilbert on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:04: > William Bulley writes: > > > Everything up to this point builds okay. Then this happens: > > > > Making all in common > > gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' > > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tpo -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c > > file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory > > [...] > > > And poppler.h exists here: > > > > /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/poppler.h > > > > and here: > > > > /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h > > > > and here: > > > > /usr/ports/graphics/poppler-gtk/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h > > > > and they are all identical. > > Only the first counts, and it's the one that should be used. Just wanted to show that the include file was present. > You may be doing something strange in the build; you don't mention how > you started the build. Definitely make sure you do a "make clean" > before restarting it, and make sure that poppler shows up up in the list > of installed ports ("pkg_info"). I start the build in graphics/gimp followed by "make install" freebsd% pkg_info | grep -i poppler poppler-0.14.5 A PDF rendering library poppler-data-0.4.4 Poppler encoding data poppler-gtk-0.14.5 Gtk bindings to poppler Same results doing a "make install" after a "make clean"... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:39:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5628106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF108FC17 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so2264352wyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:39:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FkHxAnqKOtjdf+WIxVdROwOGXua+NEovHiaxVSf90rI=; b=g8PGg0IRFs82H8NDnXKP/PX7rl+uUw3SOuJAgtHeVWwilRdvnvIQww7WD24zFR6+FM oolzL6G5tl1bxuHZh5I1jGetgyIRhAGNNTkTpjrIKmJorAZZvfaRAlmEH1/lmlOwn2qw W1n2Nisc2BUfnfMPrtx90xCRaVMfDysAWRFxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NX4Ilbk+DYCqZwsFf9VhZNC6mhHoeB3oXYs6GOQ97Q+w/hhVp9m6+68D8J8hf8NgAq B5qvxLQWp8+O1Ebl442Q1iA+ZA285bwGpBF1IHDQBN4190428kWl9d0VQoypYAmMFGxX rFKG0V3hblDY+hO8eUqTT2Fg7hW9tzBoXXh0Q= Received: by 10.227.182.68 with SMTP id cb4mr1279267wbb.218.1296146343892; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.46.210] ([212.183.128.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6sm277556wbo.21.2011.01.27.08.39.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:39:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:38:57 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew McGlashan References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:39:06 -0000 On 27/01/11 14:41, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi Simon, Thanks for taking the time to reply Andrew. > elbbit wrote: >> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website at: >> http://www.tibble.net/ >> >> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! > Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. >> For anyone who is half in the know about the goings on in the world, and >> are aware of Project Venus or the Zeitgeist Movement, you will >> understand that there is a growing concern over many global issues: >> - over-population of the planet >> - resources might run out (as a result of too many people) >> - money is a form of slavery >> - the choices available to us are set by corporations/governments, not >> by us the people >> ... the list goes on. > The problem with many "leading" questions [as per your site] is that you > can't agree / disagree with the question properly as there are grey > areas. You might somewhat agree with each argument, so you are unable > to choose b/w either given answer in a simple y/n situation. There are > often at least three answers to a question, "your" answer, an "opposing" > answer and the "correct" answer; however that trivializes the fact that > multiple answers could be equally correct for different people with or > without further argument -- but if you define the question to rigidly, > you can't give fair license to get the answer that is truly relevant for > the responder. My argument to this is a physics one. Nothing is static. There is no grey area. This so called "in between" black and white is a myth which is perpetuated to stop us from deciding. Let me analogise: everything in real matter is in a state of change. In a car which has cruise control, the internal computer either adds braking force or increases the airflow in the combustion process to allow acceleration. The speedometer might "perceptively" appear to be "stuck" at the specified speed, but in fact, even at the microscopic level, you are either speeding up or slowing down. Using this as a guide, and from all the understandings I have gleaned from texts about psychology & human relations, technology & science, history and predictions: I deduce that everything is definitive. Just like the binary bit, your answer can only ever be 1 or 0. You are alive or dead. You either breathe in or out. Your brain either receives information or it does not. Your computer has electricity fed to it or not. There is no middle ground and any variance on the polar choice will be avoided at all costs. > I think back to the good old Eliza program, back in my late primary > school days in the era of the TRS-80 and Apple ][e computers. The > program asks a simple question, then depending on your response, it will > ask further questions along the way to get to an artificial point of > "knowing" the answer. Aah, the old Turing test chestnut. Artificial intelligence *will* happen, but not in the way we have previously thought it. > Inevitably, many forum polls have the same problem. Limit the available > choices and you can't get appropriate or meaningful results. There are > always other options that aren't seen in the poll. Just like I can switch my transistor half on? Simon -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:39:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564C01065693 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAED68FC0C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so2203692wwf.31 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:39:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+acei4pykoqUPmM9Bou0jclpTkcEYX5WiLXQlMavNEM=; b=hGCKr7GSKdtJla9JDLKIv6wjBYvAgzwQbRIeQlJH7+0/FT/4w2pyaECRFlcWH99bcM 1jJcP6iqFkgtBdLOxIW1RX4TWN+1e5vdQeeOhBbRg8hQbzpyoqCrhSsFpayGmLZ/I8nu Pm9KC3FPYiqIQk5qIocWYT1dlX1NYIZoRrhZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xP74cV3cIgxPI5aXvtkV9ktR4Z+2mlqYmZG5fPryyoQnoVI0fDIgZs/wTbgZXf2gHo rZ+WAwOPBQDufm6Gq33xjo+h3AKdBYV67r0XIG0u+zQ0Q5J/vJtwVIH0fmG+tHDmzit7 LtoW7wRco5t+ygaACrX1E5AULCMvrZdxQPGXg= Received: by 10.227.156.5 with SMTP id u5mr1348334wbw.28.1296146347642; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from Abricot.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm6801375wbd.22.2011.01.27.08.39.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:39:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D419FAC.5080208@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:39:08 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110126 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110127162254.GD93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <20110127162254.GD93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:39:09 -0000 On 27/01/2011 17:22, William Bulley wrote: > According to Lowell Gilbert on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:04: >> William Bulley writes: >> >>> Everything up to this point builds okay. Then this happens: >>> >>> Making all in common >>> gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' >>> cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tpo -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c >>> file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory >> It seems that gmake does not call `pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler`. do you have pkg-config and poppler installed correctly? /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc These files must be installed by poppler. In your case I will reinstall graphics/poppler by hand and verify that pkg-config finds it. Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 16:59:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAEC106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D2D8FC12 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4D41A455.21605.14215 ; Authuser web; 27 Jan 2011 11:59:01 EST Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:55:14 -0500 From: William Bulley To: David Demelier Message-ID: <20110127165514.GG93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:59:02 -0000 According to David Demelier on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:39: > > It seems that gmake does not call `pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler`. > do you have pkg-config and poppler installed correctly? > > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc > > These files must be installed by poppler. In your case I will reinstall > graphics/poppler by hand and verify that pkg-config finds it. You mention gmake, yet I use "# make install" all the time. Is this really gmake under the covers? I see both executables and they differ: freebsd% ls -l /usr/local/bin/gmake /usr/bin/make -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 378392 Jan 25 10:12 /usr/bin/make -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 156592 Jan 25 11:29 /usr/local/bin/gmake This is what I found when looking for those four above files: freebsd% ls -l /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc ls: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc: No such file or directory -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 304 Jan 27 11:43 /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 222 Jan 27 11:43 /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 222 Jan 27 11:43 /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc I rebuilt (make deinstall; make clean; make install) graphics/poppler. It made and installed cleanly (as did pkg-config earlier this week). I have these packages: poppler-0.14.5 A PDF rendering library poppler-data-0.4.4 Poppler encoding data poppler-gtk-0.14.5 Gtk bindings to poppler pkg-config-0.25_1 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries Which is the correct port to install this "poppler-cairo" file? I see two copies in the ports tree: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/poppler-cairo.pc and /usr/ports/graphics/poppler-gtk/work/poppler-0.14.5/poppler-cairo.pc When I run this: # pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler I see this: -I/usr/local/include/poppler -L/usr/local/lib -lpoppler Is that to be expected? Note that the file "poppler.h" exists here: /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/poppler.h so would that not imply that -I/usr/local/include/poppler is wrong and instead should be: -I/usr/local/include/poppler/glib ?? Thanks for all the suggestions, but I am still in a pickle... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 17:04:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3051065730 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A418B8FC18 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21so746628gwj.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.176.5 with SMTP id bc5mr2401162icb.451.1296147854619; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:04:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.202 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:03:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110127165514.GG93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> References: <20110127165514.GG93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:54 -0500 Message-ID: To: David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:04:16 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:55 AM, William Bulley wrote: > You mention gmake, yet I use "# make install" all the time. Is this > really gmake under the covers? I see both executables and they differ: > > gmake is GNU Make, some applications don't talk nice w/ bsdmake ('make' on your bsd system). If your installing GIMP from ports then you should be correctly using something like 'make install clean'. The only time I've invoked gmake was when building something by hand vs letting a ports makefile do the footwork for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 17:14:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D1A106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAE08FC1B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4D41A7DA.C5D47.803 ; Authuser web; 27 Jan 2011 12:14:02 EST Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:10:16 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Chris Brennan Message-ID: <20110127171016.GJ93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Brennan , David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:14:04 -0000 According to Chris Brennan on Thu, 01/27/11 at 12:03: > > gmake is GNU Make, some applications don't talk nice w/ bsdmake ('make' on > your bsd system). If your installing GIMP from ports then you should be > correctly using something like 'make install clean'. The only time I've > invoked gmake was when building something by hand vs letting a ports > makefile do the footwork for me. Okay, thanks. However I still have a broken poppler (somehow) which means I am unable to build the Gimp from the ports tree. What should I next look for? I have re-built/installed graphics/poppler and also graphics/gimp (using "make install") but I still get the same error. :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 17:38:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C871065670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1AE8FC21 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.132] (port=50289) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PiVnt-00084D-LC; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:38:43 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Aryeh Friedman In-Reply-To: References: Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:38:48 +0000 Message-ID: <1296149928.20060.31.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: 72e9d3c6856f0c2b84fc3ccec67b7fdd X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Devin Teske , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: How to set a timeout for a process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:38:44 -0000 On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 03:37 -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are > unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to > say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the > script (no harm done if it fails) #!/bin/sh # -*- tab-width: 4 -*- ;; Emacs # vi: set tabstop=4 :: Vi/ViM ############################################################ GLOBALS # Global exit status variables SUCCESS=0 FAILURE=1 ############################################################ FUNCTIONS # timeout_watcher $nsecs # # No need to call directly. Used by eval_timeout in the following manner: # eval_timeout $nsecs $cmd ... | timeout_watcher $nsecs # timeout_watcher() { local timeout="$1" tPID tALIVE read tPID while :; do kill -INFO $tPID 2> /dev/null || break read -t "$timeout" tALIVE if [ ! "$tALIVE" ]; then # The SIGINFO trap didn't respond in the given timeout... # ... assume the sub-shell has hung and kill it. kill -9 $tPID break fi sleep $timeout done } # eval_timeout $nsecs $cmd ... # eval_timeout() { local timeout="$1" [ "$timeout" ] || return $FAILURE shift cat <<-EOF | sh -T | timeout_watcher $timeout trap 'echo still alive' INFO echo \$\$ eval "$@" 2>&1 EOF } ############################################################ MAIN eval_timeout "$@" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 17:51:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D59D1065670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:51:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55B98FC1C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so2370780qwj.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:51:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QGHGtOWJg5a0cE9O+s9cnL7OVojo1+mqWQQbrseQjAg=; b=UammnSyp0hXuU/vKw6nybTmFOTRzAKI97h28Au6Oemx1ddzvUtiDzaF9nmZxJHHAZt qAFh/mrCWdYPi3KZ1IeQSy/kWMMOzWaBzTcwEtMXa28dRZRrRN3EKCJYHH8EckbIcYEo 1c4ZV+S90pc+zPvTnZ5MwogBaSQP0dTdoEjNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rTvPLT4tblSXCDHhowNBJScG8qwC28+tUezAUAUGy6yj0JjUZvWj85T1oVWsRiZY4K ctsXdbI3iz8H3wwtKn8eAPKeQajHwbGj4CP4/eAAuEgl0BgfT0tsQhfMpoNNMk4j96ux 1dmbI4nFGOiqVRUJss3jslTwiHfs63HJtr0Ow= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.229.68 with SMTP id jh4mr1782051qcb.103.1296150708798; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:51:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:21:48 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:51:50 -0000 Hello FreeBSD fans, After a lot of work, I managed to get my printer work with CUPS with appropriate filters. Now, I can print the test page using http://localhost:631 and also I can print any postscript file from command-line. cat ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps | /usr/local/bin/lp Note that I can not print using simple "lp" command as there a "lp" in /bin/lp. How can I print from inside the applications? Take Firefox or gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using File>Print menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from File>Menu. There are only two choices "Printer to File" and "Print to LPR". Printing to LPR does not work at all as I think it references /bin/lpr instead of /usr/local/bin/lpr. (Snapshot attached) How can I add more options in this dialog? Right now, in order to print I choose Print to File "as PostScript" and use command line cat PostScriptFile | /usr/local/bin/lp to print. Thanks for Help Bahman Kahinpour From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 18:22:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A97106566C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D298FC15 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12D41DE9A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:22:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p0RIMXS8002619; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:22:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:22:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bahman Kahinpour Message-Id: <20110127192233.5a67b38e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:22:37 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:21:48 +0330, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > Note that I can not print using simple "lp" command as there a "lp" in > /bin/lp. FreeBSD uses the standard interface /usr/bin/lp*, while CUPS brings its own commands at /usr/local/bin/lp*; it also differs in the amount of commands (e. g. additional lpstat command). > How can I print from inside the applications? CUPS should provide a default printer ("lp" is the default name, but it can be anything else). You can define the environment variable PRINTER to point to the desired default printer which will be addressed whenever you print from inside an application. In my case, % echo $PRINTER Laserjet shows that all lp* commands will address "Laserjet", and all application data will go to that printer spool. > Take Firefox or > gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using File>Print > menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from File>Menu. No. You don't need an individual printer driver for each application. :-) Basically, printing from an application means that this program will create the print content in PS format and send it to the printer spool (identified by the default printer name). From there on, the printer filter (CUPS in your case) will pick up the PS data and hand it to the printer, or convert it to the printer's language (e. g. PCL) and then send this result to the printer. When I go File -> Print... in Firefox, "PostScript/default" is the name of the printer. Set properties if needed (e. g. A4 paper size, margins, whatever you need). After pressing Enter, the print job should show up in your printer queue. % lpq Laserjet is ready and printing Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1st poly 541 (standard input) 555466 bytes Note that CUPS may require "lpstat", not the standard "lpq". Some applications provide a temporary file name, or the name of the input file; in case of Firefox you can see that the printing content has been sent to the printer spool via standard input. > There are only two choices "Printer to File" and "Print to LPR". This should be correct. > Printing to LPR does not work at all as I think it references /bin/lpr > instead of /usr/local/bin/lpr. If you use CUPS, you need to use its print job entry tools, /usr/local/bin/lp*. In the "properties" dialog window, the print command of my Firefox (2.0.0.20_9,1) is: lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} This is the lpr found FIRST in the path. % which lpr /usr/bin/lpr For CUPS, it does have to be the other lpr. If you use CUPS *INSTEAD* of the default system tools, there's an option in "make config" that allows you to overwrite the system tools in the default location. You can, however, work with symlinks to "redirect" the commands to their location in the local/ subtree, or simply rename the system tools lp* to lp*.sys. > (Snapshot attached) Nothing attached. :-) > How can I add more > options in this dialog? No need. You just have to use the correct tools (CUPS's tools) to address your default print queue. > Right now, in order to print I choose Print to File "as PostScript" > and use command line cat PostScriptFile | /usr/local/bin/lp to print. This is what Firefox does itself. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 18:54:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0685C10656A6 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FB7E8FC1A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11353 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2011 18:54:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 18:54:07 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CVb39QSYemZ1 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:54:06 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 11343 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2011 18:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 27 Jan 2011 18:54:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:48:22 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:54:09 -0000 Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 18:58:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69947106564A; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@ddteam.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58608FC17; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so2419091wyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.46.135 with SMTP id r7mr6805394web.21.1296153256972; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rnote.ddteam.net (136-192-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net [95.133.192.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b54sm4405897wer.21.2011.01.27.10.34.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:34:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:34:06 +0200 From: Aleksandr Rybalko To: Bahman Kahinpour Message-Id: <20110127203406.0bb769a5.ray@ddteam.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very Important Note on HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:58:14 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:50:16 +0330 Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > Hi dear FreeBSD people, > After spending a lot of time on making my HP LaserJet P1102 work on > FreeBSD, I found out what the problem is!!! Please tell this to > anybody who has problems with HP P1102 on FreeBSD! > The problem with this HP model is that it has a fake CD-ROM which > contains the Windows drivers. The USB must actually be switched from > the CD-ROM mode to the Printer mode in order to work. Otherwise, the > printer will not work whatever you do. /dev/ulpt0 will not show up > either. > ---> The workaround is this: You must (unfortunately) connect the > printer to a Windows system and run SIUtility.exe or SIUtility64.exe > from the UTIL folder in the Driver CD-ROM (physical CD-ROM that comes > with the printer not the fake one) and completely disable this "HP > Smart Install" feature. After disabling this feature, everything will > be fine on FreeBSD and life will be more beautiful. > * Please pass this info on blogs, wikis, ... . I do not want other > FreeBSD fans suffer this pain. > Good luck > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, seems ZeroCD technology now touching printers :) Bahman, can you try UQ_MSC_EJECT_* quirks on -CURRENT, maybe this can switch without booting into Win? If not, maybe googling some info about your printer with usb_modeswitch can help. WBW -- Aleksandr Rybalko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 19:08:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D353010656A4 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jarrod.sl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BEF8FC1F for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi10 with SMTP id 10so575102pwi.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:08:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EVHFDh9tSMply+nZyNji/6P+0pJCNE96sqD2cyVg+UA=; b=sRfC+5KqNvqR2pzynWQqIOFRn+KTo/r8GFemIZwzaiT/xSfIRQe/H6chwmFOJLcOZd ZymTS9DC7tk3byd6HaoDHVPxLVs78ByGeIHQyJaTZZlTH6sUiZemWJJCkjv3UDS/0Mxq rl9p6w5cQXpTA0D5fg8BXAhVHstuM4nsq+JsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=swFgDrO+C0liJhoclLI4DjD6RtrB5uImE3VoLIWTRCtQyV7aIKztIwdld35GDOT+P3 YuspASsSjm4gYIGDHPwztLA6sglardIbTz6hcvm7D66G8jIRKK+ob1dKA/TqCn49M9Oa R8C+OvoBbpxt7tbaAweCgOydJ/2U7zoT+n81s= Received: by 10.142.14.20 with SMTP id 20mr1613325wfn.326.1296155293081; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from jarrod-slicks-macbook.local ([206.123.101.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w14sm22140243wfd.18.2011.01.27.11.08.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:08:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D41C298.7030709@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:08:08 -0700 From: Jarrod Slick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:13 -0000 On 1/27/11 11:48 AM, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a > PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only > runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth > excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using > wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a > supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be > better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? > > Best regards, > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Chaining emulators just sounds like a bad idea; I would guess that your risk of complications increases exponentially when doing this, and I would bet anything that your performance decreases exponentially as well. Also, I doubt the company that sells the commercial version of wine would support their software when running on untested platforms (e.g., FBSD w/ Linux Emulation). Further, that company probably has a list of supported software and won't vouch for their product's ability to run anything outside of that list. If you absolutely must run it under a *nix, I would go with Linux for this project. If you'd set dogma aside, though, you would probably see that Windows is your best bet for this project. A close second (if you had all the time in the world) would be writing drivers yourself for your desired platform. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 19:08:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10A51065696 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6728FC0A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so2430130wyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:08:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=L71yfzyK1AkBNKrRFZpSzP6CafYp3zqAj86KazlTOEI=; b=B3qALFBRCJpPou1qvjrBStxlYsVC5LQs5kKaLEVA9VptFOgkyj6zGEHmRIwwgOr/Ft y7lhG/OazEGl6fkhxR80cQS8iosKVvgnel25R+GJxroTl4SXdXlEw3ji8t6VOXYtS5aa 6w+Jli9kW0oaNHwG48Y8fwjPCuS2UCO7yeNGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sB+YsNJEgntsOhg8ScpJJ7p4GJUjtEHStHQSV2V1fisNMhEYpD5qgqN8Vo9p4S6d5e jXmnESAe5n3ivnm1w7BZQBuADIbI8UiVkrO/TPpgroN1CmdX+68DyHY44WAfwnRpcX87 1JOOnIu2/VMBOGPGycn9SiywZPZdxM9f3WNMc= Received: by 10.227.129.79 with SMTP id n15mr1526596wbs.134.1296155293556; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.46.210] ([212.183.128.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f27sm1164718wbf.13.2011.01.27.11.08.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:08:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:06 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:15 -0000 On 27/01/11 17:04, Bill Moran ... Thank you for taking the time to reply Bill. I am glad you challenge me. Someone needs to! > In response to elbbit : >> On 27/01/11 14:41, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> Hi Simon, >> Thanks for taking the time to reply Andrew. >> >>> elbbit wrote: >>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new >>>> website at: http://www.tibble.net/ >>>> >>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! >>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... >> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for >> being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming >> for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of >> global self awareness is too important to worry about whether or >> not we like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of >> a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going >> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It >> is why I have been born. > > You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. I forgive you. > If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another > thread without changing the subject? With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too important to worry about whether or not my particular message fits into a defined category. The survey thread I chose to reply to is the closest match I could find that was both recent and relevant to OUR cause. By "our" I mean all people in the world, not just those involved with me. To highlight some facts here: a) original poster asked about conducting a survey b) original poster wants to gather the opinion using the internet c) I am conducting a survey of all people on all views, sorted by most active vote/talk thread d) my survey is being conducted on the internet > It's because you don't really care if anyone on the list reads it, Naturally, when you understand the significance of everyone being able to vote, and then being able to change their vote at any time, and being able to vote on anything - completely unrestricted, unmoderated, clear-cut decision. Take a second to imagine in your mind, and call it fiction if you will, that it is wholly possible that all people can vote in this way. Now, seeing as we are dealing with fiction, and made up ideas, you must remember that money is a made up idea. Someone thought it up. Let's continue... > you just want the message to be in the multitude of web archives that > archive this mailing list so you'll have more links back to your page > so search engines are more likely to rank you highly. I expect > you've got some scheme in mind that eventually involves making > yourself money once you've got enough traffic. I am not hostile. I care. I love. Yes, you read me right. I have nothing but love for you all, and whilst you might think I am going to fail without the use of money - I think you will find that there is a growing trend where people are starting to question why we have all believed in money. Money is the religion of today, if you open your eyes to see it for yourself. I am not here to make money. I am here to see what the world decides for itself. > I sent a complaint to your ISP about the spamming. If enough other > people do the same, you'll find your site shut down eventually. I > wish you poor luck and misery. I forgive you [again] for thinking that I am hostile. I am not hurting anybody. No blood is being spilt because I am "asking for your opinion." Go ahead and annoy the ISP if you want, but if they shut Tibble down it will just appear somewhere else, maybe even being written by someone new. I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it is out here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the famous movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal with is money and those who make it. They use it to control you. Do your own research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am crazy...or am I? Simon -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 19:23:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35FA106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jarrod.sl@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F438FC1B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so355342pzk.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:23:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=x1C6ptSJzNvr9+SLQzLqHR3sqlgEV6RcLfKqkEBrYIo=; b=iR3kjyts/D4G0sjv2P2ypbZL/EIUNEMuHv5DAJLN/TuFnRmHUcO8XDww1EJ/ds28SY xfzVhGd40+/otFQ+U/gfaOpWETkAsTkgWaLEC+W7t2quV/Evg6VckjmCzwFjc6Yu4cKd hpnM24vmbx272JA/KzrVMus+50Xeo0HNoFFUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DSeBUvObrnd3EmkR2E88xe4MroKzrbAhT2NCp57xHNZub9ZlyphxVkhrK6PnfS0HFo ZkuM7PZgklgunJOhvNMWHBx8lCqfbwHTPcJjT3MgqiIAvnDO3EqbsToz/Zuy1eRFg50U Xn/ZTeCa4kW2PJKoj6/7beOR0n8AHMlWzRtxE= Received: by 10.142.237.2 with SMTP id k2mr2157572wfh.438.1296156213829; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from jarrod-slicks-macbook.local ([206.123.101.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q13sm22155641wfc.17.2011.01.27.11.23.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:23:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D41C61C.4080907@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:23:08 -0700 From: Jarrod Slick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: elbbit References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:23:34 -0000 On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: > I am not going > >> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It > >> is why I have been born. You sound like a sociopath. > I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it is out > here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the famous > movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal with is money > and those who make it. They use it to control you. Do your own > research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am crazy...or am I? Nevermind, you actually just sound like a normal 14 year old with Hollywood inspired delusions of grandeur. Hope your website works out for you and ends social injustice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 19:43:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB3D1065674 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F5E8FC15 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so2464431wyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:43:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7NTfs3kNmG8PC6aQM8KhgtivtsDjHNFFDZw10H+RgHY=; b=Wnwjo6NgAF7M24ysqFUuzxswLkb9yhBHFS17/CwY7xnyNd7J/Wc0aX5OKo8Sxz8o/Q q6bmAgm4LHRSNnzNzVfvMa0GAEXq9sjV+EeE2cQaG2Q3MNYxY1ywJXMz3f6lTK/Pr356 OyswxrAuJYgkpnDbk0YD3a8wTLLcpo94X546Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JXe/h7vuVMN09/LcNvOf0cQQIC97cCx4HaKlh1Y/bt+Q02q7SPrZSahSuA0cvYQGS1 aOVfMTeJ8vvYBlYJYt9WeMYLPehQ13dcWf4ohhGDW7E93MvoCxrPF7KguSEQIu/tgH80 IPHiqlTR28r5H2Mw+sIhWHCYw6HUNnI+BXQqI= Received: by 10.227.69.84 with SMTP id y20mr1601783wbi.86.1296157396731; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.46.210] ([212.183.128.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w25sm1008647wbd.23.2011.01.27.11.43.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:43:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D41CACD.9050900@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:43:09 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jarrod Slick References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> <4D41C61C.4080907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D41C61C.4080907@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:43:18 -0000 On 27/01/11 19:23, Jarrod Slick wrote: Thank you for taking the time to reply Jarrod. I appreciate your argument. > On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: >> I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my >> presence. It is why I have been born. > You sound like a sociopath. You sound like you are just putting me in a box marked "crazy people" without inquiring how I came to this conclusion. Your mind is closed. Only by asking questions will you learn anything new. Sure, I have answers, and so does Google. You can ask either or not at all. >> I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it >> is out here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the >> famous movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal >> with is money and those who make it. They use it to control you. >> Do your own research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am >> crazy...or am I? > > Nevermind, you actually just sound like a normal 14 year old with > Hollywood inspired delusions of grandeur. It is widely accepted that Hollywood is based on real life, as a starting reference point in any fiction, and then distorted to a point. A screen writer then fills in the gaps with dramatization and dialogue. If my perception of the creativity industry is flawed, please educate me. > Hope your website works out for you and ends social injustice. I forgive you. I accept the ridicule and sarcasm, because I have already accepted in advance, that it is the price I must pay in order free humanity from the control of a few powerful men, and give the power to the people themselves. If you are unable to see (in advance) how global voting is going to change the world, I think you need to get up from that keyboard and go ponder about the possibilities whilst staring out of a window. Simon -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 19:45:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868AE1065672 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420168FC1A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so817688gyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:45:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hnpumWK3kkl+4e34YzdvcqSu4ne9rySVnjINarkUDdM=; b=t9VDwKcM4Fvy3Df2W/xoU2eb4aGPRRZRx1jGlsuEEAXqKrNBKLysR/34x16w27qV8y HJae3l+Usbh2QObLiQDHofLeZqT5sJVWd98KCSylybr3yOdNdOfmT7QNIySkkZOpJTQO xd8RDzANabtgTVOhNuCCv2qwOEXIo+zcIz2wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=EYBGFMvUEqXkAceow6pYGB7+DYw66AjeLZHGunhvcEZAuyGorV8AFxWE5arp5beFkF p1LbNCpj0n2T5JQgYigYGEVv9RopkaHsgWFczL9EXoNeNkLNof7tYE/btEyLkgVDB7l8 B35esIPZ7LW/Z95qLlN2S/IOpzTNjbNntx2yU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.239.15 with SMTP id q15mr880015mur.15.1296155863010; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.74 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:17:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D41C298.7030709@gmail.com> References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> <4D41C298.7030709@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:17:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: Jarrod Slick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:45:14 -0000 "Linux emulation" on FreeBSD is not really emulation, in the sense that it does not create virtual hardware. Some linux softwares run even faster on FreeBSD than Linux... My worry would be more to make sure that USB communication works through the "emulation" layers... On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jarrod Slick wrote: > On 1/27/11 11:48 AM, Fred wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC >> through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on >> Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS >> which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of >> programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial >> version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and >> running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? >> >> Best regards, >> Fred >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Chaining emulators just sounds like a bad idea; I would guess that your > risk of complications increases exponentially when doing this, and I would > bet anything that your performance decreases exponentially as well. Also, I > doubt the company that sells the commercial version of wine would support > their software when running on untested platforms (e.g., FBSD w/ Linux > Emulation). Further, that company probably has a list of supported software > and won't vouch for their product's ability to run anything outside of that > list. > > If you absolutely must run it under a *nix, I would go with Linux for this > project. > > If you'd set dogma aside, though, you would probably see that Windows is > your best bet for this project. A close second (if you had all the time in > the world) would be writing drivers yourself for your desired platform. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 19:47:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8CB106566C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E3B8FC0C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiXoh-0006NJ-0F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:47:40 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:47:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:47:39 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110127194738.GD72285@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qGV0fN9tzfkG3CxV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:47:44 -0000 --qGV0fN9tzfkG3CxV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth elbbit on Thursday, 27 January 2011: > On 27/01/11 17:04, Bill Moran ... >=20 > Thank you for taking the time to reply Bill. I am glad you challenge > me. Someone needs to! >=20 > > In response to elbbit : > >> On 27/01/11 14:41, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >>> Hi Simon, > >> Thanks for taking the time to reply Andrew. > >>=20 > >>> elbbit wrote: > >>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new > >>>> website at: http://www.tibble.net/ > >>>>=20 > >>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! > >>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... > >> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for > >> being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming > >> for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of > >> global self awareness is too important to worry about whether or > >> not we like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of > >> a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going > >> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It > >> is why I have been born. > >=20 > > You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. > I forgive you. >=20 > > If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another > > thread without changing the subject? > With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent > these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too important > to worry about whether or not my particular message fits into a defined > category. The survey thread I chose to reply to is the closest match I > could find that was both recent and relevant to OUR cause. By "our" I > mean all people in the world, not just those involved with me. >=20 > To highlight some facts here: > a) original poster asked about conducting a survey > b) original poster wants to gather the opinion using the internet > c) I am conducting a survey of all people on all views, sorted by most > active vote/talk thread > d) my survey is being conducted on the internet >=20 > > It's because you don't really care if anyone on the list reads it, > Naturally, when you understand the significance of everyone being able > to vote, and then being able to change their vote at any time, and being > able to vote on anything - completely unrestricted, unmoderated, > clear-cut decision. Take a second to imagine in your mind, and call it > fiction if you will, that it is wholly possible that all people can vote > in this way. Now, seeing as we are dealing with fiction, and made up > ideas, you must remember that money is a made up idea. Someone thought > it up. Let's continue... >=20 > > you just want the message to be in the multitude of web archives that > > archive this mailing list so you'll have more links back to your page > > so search engines are more likely to rank you highly. I expect > > you've got some scheme in mind that eventually involves making=20 > > yourself money once you've got enough traffic. > I am not hostile. I care. I love. Yes, you read me right. I have > nothing but love for you all, and whilst you might think I am going to > fail without the use of money - I think you will find that there is a > growing trend where people are starting to question why we have all > believed in money. Money is the religion of today, if you open your > eyes to see it for yourself. I am not here to make money. I am here to > see what the world decides for itself. >=20 > > I sent a complaint to your ISP about the spamming. If enough other=20 > > people do the same, you'll find your site shut down eventually. I=20 > > wish you poor luck and misery. > I forgive you [again] for thinking that I am hostile. I am not hurting > anybody. No blood is being spilt because I am "asking for your > opinion." Go ahead and annoy the ISP if you want, but if they shut > Tibble down it will just appear somewhere else, maybe even being written > by someone new. >=20 > I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it is out > here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the famous > movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal with is money > and those who make it. They use it to control you. Do your own > research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am crazy...or am I? >=20 > Simon >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > elbbit As I was reading this, I couldn't help picturing the speaker as King Julian from the Madagascar movies. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com --qGV0fN9tzfkG3CxV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNQcvaAAoJEIpckszW26+R81sH/3GjRf3zxxRi7DQ6ZSMNWfVb Lv3CPj15gZMaWS7iFsyTISytE5v3+rAzfgz/bPy9Wvti7lveL41U5xBZ1oQ1Cr4f +g5EoZ7NWpCWWytl+Cg6X+aOSfc+nRXfd+OVWBU0qyc1HWlYqbwy4F9zn4zHjo8M YoRl2COgPE2y43DXjDhcYR57ZkfYVwTY5npS9Omi/4G+YHKz3ieZtyU33OPwWZ6p uNKbx+R+IrjF+nLk8+4T9bMGbEjyO4dcBEmFT8nXidtiWS771FibFPsUYrymc5MP Ph/vREoTtVhHZKJPjwj/vMBx8+2Jmb40VgHMjYIBiSo0TahZVrSru8D1Z1KxcQ8= =3WRQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qGV0fN9tzfkG3CxV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 20:26:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAF3106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77D6F8FC16 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9339 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2011 20:26:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 20:26:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=A1r/ubTNON/F5g6k+7vyxIsFfLCXjJaBevr4trh2rhQ30QEkfooZKhLuSLvZ2t8lI1bWyxaU9FdUEnUoMzjRWLq17RkHS9YKDQP8OZkbUdfBL61rMTGj+1yjvbe2qtfM; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiYQK-0007YP-ME for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:26:33 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:17:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:17:01 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110127201701.GB75822@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:26:34 -0000 --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 04:38:57PM +0000, elbbit wrote: >=20 > I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for being > so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming for > teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global self > awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we like to > know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in > my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world > will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. It's spam, no matter how good you think the cause may be. Spam alienates people. It does *not* sway them to your point of view. Being spammy is a great way to *discourage* people from whatever you want to encourage them to do. I recommend you stop. You have already convinced many on this list, I am certain, that visiting your site will be a complete waste of time, because spammy behavior is a very strong indicator of scammy ideas. > > > > I think back to the good old Eliza program, back in my late primary > > school days in the era of the TRS-80 and Apple ][e computers. The > > program asks a simple question, then depending on your response, it will > > ask further questions along the way to get to an artificial point of > > "knowing" the answer. =20 > > Aah, the old Turing test chestnut. Artificial intelligence *will* > happen, but not in the way we have previously thought it. This is completely irrelevant to the point about Eliza. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1B0r0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV8DACgqrNsMz4H/tCy+Y+m5cs9HaN2 2pIAn0PX5qatxR9m8ThJWT/BhW2p/F0z =+B0m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 20:29:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD8C106566C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34F828FC22 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10507 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2011 20:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 20:29:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Cd1YlmhhJMF66/8YKyNltG5C7fvJtSjkbvKC9yR+1p5P9zmOvtAP6BRuMgdqKaVi/VT/z3WydRSStZmnKF8YLousFaiJ3adQbcCpVefxabOOc67GgAPBEK8kYdBtVuID; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiYTD-0003Et-Fv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:29:32 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:59 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110127201959.GC75822@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> <4D41C61C.4080907@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H8ygTp4AXg6deix2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D41C61C.4080907@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:29:34 -0000 --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Jarrod Slick wrote: > On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: > >I am not going > >>> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It > >>> is why I have been born. > You sound like a sociopath. Actually, the correct term in this case is "megalomaniac". The part that makes him sound like a sociopath is the part where he says he's going to spam people because he thinks his desires are more important than living peacefully with other people. I'm not likely to actually think he's a sociopath or megalomaniac at this point, however. He may merely be misguided. I do not have enough information to diagnose him. He may even be a she, but I need to pick a pronoun, so there it is (and for some reason people object when I use "it" for people whose genders are unknown to me). --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1B028ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX7BACg9FgexTGj8kVXv3X4qxZOkcLN i+UAn3KXCuAWZIdWhTlb/Am9iXBsTrv7 =fJh/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 20:32:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F06E1065675 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 569DF8FC13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12075 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2011 20:32:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 20:32:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=DSY3k8FD+cF96krfx+vOR9lWc9sdNb8BU4IKjKagw0bCF4wqgU0fwHs1bWy2wpzGwWzPhbgdkQ7nKtJnqmTxyeVkfW+6rAyeGYUMBVgyZn+xBAaHv8CKq0QGsvsVjPR9; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiYVm-0007CK-LB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:32:11 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:22:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:22:39 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110127202239.GD75822@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> <4D41C61C.4080907@gmail.com> <4D41CACD.9050900@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D41CACD.9050900@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:32:12 -0000 --n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 07:43:09PM +0000, elbbit wrote: > On 27/01/11 19:23, Jarrod Slick wrote: > > On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: > >> I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my > >> presence. It is why I have been born. > > You sound like a sociopath. > You sound like you are just putting me in a box marked "crazy people" > without inquiring how I came to this conclusion. Your mind is closed. > Only by asking questions will you learn anything new. Sure, I have > answers, and so does Google. You can ask either or not at all. =2E . . and you sound like a shady door-to-door salesman just trying to get the foot in the door to sell someone a set of overpriced kitchen knives he doesn't need. I suggest you take a different approach that does not alienate the people you think you want to convince to join you. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1B1A8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXsHACdED2M6BRzOTXA+L2ECsIp9RiR chgAn32Vx+l70UUgFQFUFIGk9ZOQME+5 =hfhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 20:39:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFADA10656B8 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32258FC29 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (emlpfilt2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E2950A0C; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:39:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CA165789D2; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:39:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267975789D1; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:39:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.174]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:39:29 -0600 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Chad Perrin' , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:39:28 -0600 Thread-Topic: Any package for surveys? Thread-Index: Acu+YQ2ctJ2NVgJARUuoTyJQF0acWgAARptg Message-ID: <8421_1296160770_4D41D802_8421_39_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499AF0FA625@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <4D3EA1C8.9030403@daniel-gr-andersson.com> <4D40D77D.1000200@gmail.com> <4D418414.7010803@affinityvision.com.au> <4D419FA1.2060608@gmail.com> <20110127120408.dc13f52b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> <4D41C61C.4080907@gmail.com> <20110127201959.GC75822@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110127201959.GC75822@guilt.hydra> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:39:41 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chad Perrin Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:20 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Jarrod Slick wrote: > On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: > >I am not going > >>> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It > >>> is why I have been born. > You sound like a sociopath. Actually, the correct term in this case is "megalomaniac". The part that makes him sound like a sociopath is the part where he says he's going to spam people because he thinks his desires are more important than living peacefully with other people. I'm not likely to actually think he's a sociopath or megalomaniac at this point, however. He may merely be misguided. I do not have enough information to diagnose him. He may even be a she, but I need to pick a pronoun, so there it is (and for some reason people object when I use "it" for people whose genders are unknown to me). --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I don't object to "it" for unknown's of any kind - feel free, I won't be of= fended - and since I'm the only one that matters you're good to go!
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 20:45:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62401065673 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitri@momus.net) Received: from na3sys009aog106.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog106.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AFDA8FC08 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from source ([209.85.161.48]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob106.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTUHZYi5An6ys+waFiPG07jJQq7nUPRtC@postini.com; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:45:23 PST Received: by mail-fx0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 2so2947970fxm.21 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.95.199 with SMTP id e7mr1416406fan.39.1296160669142; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:37:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.133 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:37:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> From: Dmitri Brengauz Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:37:23 -0700 Message-ID: To: Fred Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:45:24 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC > through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on > Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS > which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of > programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial > version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and > running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? > > Best regards, > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Have you tried VirtualBox? You still have to shell out for a Windows license, but at least the Gates virus will be contained securely on your computer. For me, Virtual Box + FreeBSD has been running better than VMWare + OS X. Once again, free software, more than worth the price. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 20:49:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D0E106566C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E0818FC0A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7297 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2011 20:49:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 20:49:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ahY3UJi2JLp/ZmWOxm47n6K6KCUUFq4JsWmu5oDpLphhxMm9c5VLjKO3dsOce80fvubVHnX+xggKaWGhWbjT7Bc3KmYv+8iInm1ZQVPnfJGV/HWE9YadU2cjHa7pLoAS; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiYm3-0005hx-P8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:49:00 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:39:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:39:28 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD - Message-ID: <20110127203928.GE75822@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD - References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> <20110113204525.GB3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <579FC70C-5B5B-43B4-9E71-D765887FAF6F@mac.com> <20110113210319.GD3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <1294955182.10908.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2062F50F-5D14-496C-A97A-FC4CDB3FDD3F@mac.com> <1294955858.10908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1294955858.10908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:49:01 -0000 --WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: >=20 > You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a > system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when the > box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here. >=20 > What _is_ the definition of "built" ??? When the hardware pieces were > coalesced into a single chassis? If that's the case, I'd be looking at > model numbers of internal parts. I suspect that at this point you are just being pedantic, and that you know what the question actually means; you just want to dismiss the question as immaterial. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1B2AAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWESgCg2L9ZBMPdlNH1B8CXrIsvVE3o ZbgAn2qjeQMgf2YeOFWzVVLFPS+TZy3k =9OTD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 21:09:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8950D1065670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4D08FC15 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.132] (port=51125) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PiZ67-0008Jq-1E; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:09:44 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20110127203928.GE75822@guilt.hydra> References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> <20110113204525.GB3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <579FC70C-5B5B-43B4-9E71-D765887FAF6F@mac.com> <20110113210319.GD3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <1294955182.10908.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2062F50F-5D14-496C-A97A-FC4CDB3FDD3F@mac.com> <1294955858.10908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20110127203928.GE75822@guilt.hydra> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:09:52 +0000 Message-ID: <1296162592.20060.41.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: b33a05b2664869ea37197335591d72c9 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:09:45 -0000 On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: > > > > You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a > > system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when the > > box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here. > > > > What _is_ the definition of "built" ??? When the hardware pieces were > > coalesced into a single chassis? If that's the case, I'd be looking at > > model numbers of internal parts. > > I suspect that at this point you are just being pedantic, Correct. I get paid to be pedantic. It's a staple of my tenure-track position. > and that you > know what the question actually means Correct. Going back to the OP's e-mail, he indeed clarified that he was only interested in the install-date of FreeBSD. > ; you just want to dismiss the > question as immaterial. Incorrect and perceptually [unrightly] indignent. The above statements (which you've taken out of context) were not to the OP but a reply-thread between Chuck Swiger and myself. -- Devin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 21:41:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BB7106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C748C8FC18 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0RLfGWr060263; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:41:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0RLfGKR060260; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:41:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:41:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: William Bulley In-Reply-To: <20110127165514.GG93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: References: <20110127165514.GG93736@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:41:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:41:18 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, William Bulley wrote: > According to David Demelier on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:39: >> >> It seems that gmake does not call `pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler`. >> do you have pkg-config and poppler installed correctly? >> >> /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc >> /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc >> /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc >> /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc >> >> These files must be installed by poppler. In your case I will reinstall >> graphics/poppler by hand and verify that pkg-config finds it. > > You mention gmake, yet I use "# make install" all the time. Is this > really gmake under the covers? I see both executables and they differ: gmake is used transparently by the ports system when a port needs it, typically marked by USE_GMAKE= yes in the port Makefile (graphics/gimp-app, in this case). > poppler-0.14.5 A PDF rendering library > poppler-data-0.4.4 Poppler encoding data > poppler-gtk-0.14.5 Gtk bindings to poppler > pkg-config-0.25_1 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries > > Which is the correct port to install this "poppler-cairo" file? poppler-0.14.5 Be sure to clean it before rebuilding and installing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 21:46:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908F21065673 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B2B88FC1B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19546 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2011 21:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 21:46:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=WOc9y4KICsJG5M3+233A+pyW5O9eX1sJ+RcqwaizclrxPqo1poAHV5cPn/8AR+SR2wrnSph/UywuT7mJIRfT/A5thdWG7vVNWPEAG6v0L3KlKBmN+IP9jC/7Ur9hmgfO; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiZfF-0007rP-1w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:46:02 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:36:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:36:29 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD - Message-ID: <20110127213629.GA76332@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD - References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> <20110113204525.GB3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <579FC70C-5B5B-43B4-9E71-D765887FAF6F@mac.com> <20110113210319.GD3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <1294955182.10908.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2062F50F-5D14-496C-A97A-FC4CDB3FDD3F@mac.com> <1294955858.10908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20110127203928.GE75822@guilt.hydra> <1296162592.20060.41.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1296162592.20060.41.camel@dt.vicor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:46:03 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:09:52PM +0000, Devin Teske wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: > > >=20 > > > You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a > > > system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when t= he > > > box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here. > > >=20 > > > What _is_ the definition of "built" ??? When the hardware pieces were > > > coalesced into a single chassis? If that's the case, I'd be looking at > > > model numbers of internal parts. > >=20 > > I suspect that at this point you are just being pedantic, >=20 > Correct. I get paid to be pedantic. It's a staple of my tenure-track > position. Do you get paid to read carefully? I did not simply say you're being pedantic. I said you're *just* being pedantic, which is considerably less useful or respectable. >=20 > > and that you > > know what the question actually means >=20 > Correct. Going back to the OP's e-mail, he indeed clarified that he was > only interested in the install-date of FreeBSD. >=20 > > ; you just want to dismiss the >=20 > Incorrect and perceptually [unrightly] indignent. s/indignent/indignant/ (just being pedantic; pardon me) If that is not your intent, please enlighten me, because it *still* seems to be your intended meaning, and this only looks like backpedaling in the absence of any clarification of intended meaning. >=20 > The above statements (which you've taken out of context) were not to the > OP but a reply-thread between Chuck Swiger and myself. =2E . . and yet, they're on the public list, so (it seems) there must be some desire for them to be consumed by the general readership. If that desire is not rooted in an interest in publicly humiliating someone, the next most likely reason seems to be to make comments in the general context of the discussion thread hearkening back to the OP. A third most likely does not immediately spring to mind. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1B5V0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWNegCgtbPJkuNsVy3fYmbaHINb+qER 24YAoNCzWrKYa0geNnQi6sChCNTDHsJN =cHRM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 21:48:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4501065694 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFDA8FC0A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0RLmnnv060301; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:48:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0RLmnKe060298; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:48:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:48:49 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Bahman Kahinpour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:48:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:48:50 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > After a lot of work, I managed to get my printer work with CUPS with > appropriate filters. Now, I can print the test page using > http://localhost:631 and also I can print any postscript file from > command-line. > > cat ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps | /usr/local/bin/lp UUOC: % /usr/local/bin/lp ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps > Note that I can not print using simple "lp" command as there a "lp" in > /bin/lp. How can I print from inside the applications? Take Firefox or > gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using File>Print > menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from File>Menu. CUPS chose to use identical names for their printing commands. Sometimes people delete the system lpr (/usr/bin/lpr) so that only the CUPS version is found, or link one to the other. The system lpr will come back if you rebuild the system, unless you take other actions. The CUPS article talks about this near the end: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cups/index.html There may also be options in your "desktop environment" preferences to select which printing system will be used. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 21:48:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6753F106564A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03988FC15 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22E8B1.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.232.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0RLmpTc003537; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:48:53 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0RLmkCs018646; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:48:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0RLmcfW060164; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:48:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201101272148.p0RLmcfW060164@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Fred From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:48:22 MST." <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:48:38 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:48:59 -0000 Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC > through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs > on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse > for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What > type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, > commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off > buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? > > Best regards, > Fred FreeBSD has a special list for this topic: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation PS main issue might be USB support within emulators from what I've read. ALL, Note FreeBSD has Lots of lists: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Questions@ is/was for general simple beginners questions IMO, some traffic here belongs on other more advanced lists. Decide yourself, browse the list above, click a few & read list remits. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 22:02:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71229106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CBB8FC14 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0RM2cpW060362; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:02:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0RM2cho060359; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:02:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:02:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Fred In-Reply-To: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> Message-ID: References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:02:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:02:42 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: > I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC > through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on > Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS > which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of > programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial > version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and > running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? If you were to be more specific about the device you're considering, someone may be able to suggest specifics. Sometimes Wine is surprising. This was the case when I managed to run the Arduino software on Wine under FreeBSD. That software speaks to the microcontroller via serial or USB-to-serial: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AVR/ArduinoWINE If your device speaks serial like that, it might work well. If it wants to do low-level hardware or anything uncommon, it probably will not work in Wine. If you have to get the device anyway, there's little harm in trying it on Wine. If it doesn't work, you've lost nothing but time, and probably not much of that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 22:30:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54AE106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from web161612.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (web161612.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.211.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 366EB8FC0C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82761 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jan 2011 22:03:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296165827; bh=Ggsben+hCfOwXrFIE6R9c8xFlKPbpnE9l8Owi8wrrP8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UTy5ItjJCtrC1nP02BotCzUPrEFvjwYWKifNTan5ij0CIqBDQ65DyLZDjh/j3gjWiCOPLyCrjCc/Ai5U1yXHx4HSQ9X4NUCnyYQZlz+MvS9hg4Q9fdd46F+Titgj8M2XgM95o5CAacjfago7DtWkQTmbSI4hb5FTXiG6clAzGJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DmChgLof2gcZ4Ek/PCwquuEkDMHBmIWyCwgED46XW9zOd3XSQnzjayKmc2Ztg7xovVb6kGWnzcRRlgIiriVM6wBTSDPlNfTNz9wVHqWqTsJ4UfmSG5bVJ3+U0kHi2hehvbh48ubyme3M2Mg633xcrBtUod/M+Fp3xGv7OiEZ4tk=; Message-ID: <966378.82740.qm@web161612.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _TWX7pgVM1lbBvks69KHbM9KGS0R_6gtwcHCIwvwNJmgPeP XW.HT8K1ZaQp9RhnC3rMzNHxtSxk2oRXzgH4zKLaEF1oLlr2yZHpEO53LNdV H6bv0LLabd5eVdUVPSXCNlmvOuJs2xeflMfrZgRpgKHpA9hQWuIGzSW8xpi5 Bxb8i6OBOFOS2PmrWXGRWQMv3VEPxgqlFyRNTErhH_zYUmrnkqCwwgEdp4FU YofRo7MrbtxxnbC93MjmDGCBEYtb_8S9Yf7GFoq0ljuyMXWaO04D1InI2q7s gYS2XJvM- Received: from [97.115.228.120] by web161612.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:03:47 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:03:47 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: can shift hold be enabled in hal? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:30:29 -0000 I have to type one-handed. I wish to hit the shift key so the next letter I type is upper case and the next is lower case. Here is my current x11-input.fdi us dvorak-r ====== "What did you do?" the man holding the flashlight asked. "I put down a spider," he said, wondering why the man didn't see; in the beam of yellow light the spider bloated up larger than life. "So it could get away." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 22:56:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CB31065694 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC28FC0C for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0RN5DZg084469; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:05:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:05:13 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101272305.p0RN5DZg084469@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bahman.linux@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:56:31 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 27 12:01:23 2011 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:21:48 +0330 > From: Bahman Kahinpour > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS > > Hello FreeBSD fans, > > After a lot of work, I managed to get my printer work with CUPS with > appropriate filters. Now, I can print the test page using > http://localhost:631 and also I can print any postscript file from > command-line. > > cat ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps | /usr/local/bin/lp > > Note that I can not print using simple "lp" command as there a "lp" in > /bin/lp. How can I print from inside the applications? Take Firefox or > gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using File>Print > menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from File>Menu. > > There are only two choices "Printer to File" and "Print to LPR". Printing > to LPR does not work at all as I think it references /bin/lpr instead of > /usr/local/bin/lpr. (Snapshot attached) How can I add more options in > this dialog? > > Right now, in order to print I choose Print to File "as PostScript" and > use command line cat PostScriptFile | /usr/local/bin/lp to print. > > Thanks for Help Bahman Kahinpour > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 23:19:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8613A1065670 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104968FC13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:19:48 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlkFAN+FQU3Unw4T/2dsb2JhbACWYY4cc7w9hU8E Received: from outmx04.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2011 22:50:33 +0000 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Piafh-0000wH-3O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:50:33 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Piaff-0001jF-Ng for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:50:31 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:50:31 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201101272250.31601.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:19:49 -0000 On Thursday 27 January 2011, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Fred wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to > > a PC through USB. [snip] > Have you tried VirtualBox? You still have to shell out for a > Windows license, but at least the Gates virus will be contained > securely on your computer. For me, Virtual Box + FreeBSD has been > running better than VMWare + OS X. Once again, free software, more > than worth the price. But VirtualBox OSE doesn't support USB. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 23:24:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC561065673 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:24:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7F28FC14 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so908774gyf.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:24:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LCP9+mnmLDf85odZFKe05J6U5rHlk/tSpLpYaK20Gvc=; b=PbKojxV4uau0XZ8bP2gis/xeeN24iA+MjjG8N76hziqAxxyDu7dO47vMOHjyvc4Ih5 atGjCdxyMTriEepcMgc/v/3gvwhBwkKIlsy4QnfJhbZkpC8rpkMt7Tg228ejZmN77X9y ZBvaqg+8CJ7wNwzCyM6p8KSk1m07mKSzkl3YI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xsmPixDFkcpZl3nI/6NVLmctnbZgJVFFov+NNBGUqchvPUWXq/qU2txPZeeBia/x+5 DWJtcDIjQXsPQwYg2ajMPe057ocdF3C3vCAXiB1JNl5xfxO0ZJzRRqhSUsd9s984eDt6 MqhbixACcx3R3+HStXe/G7pQFsd+wDJjfK8Qk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.105.1 with SMTP id d1mr1072266anc.12.1296170658070; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.133.9 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:24:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201101272250.31601.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> <201101272250.31601.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:24:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: Mike Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:24:19 -0000 > But VirtualBox OSE doesn't support USB. VirtualBox 4 does. http://www.virtualbox.org/changeset/33813 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 23:51:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CED8106566B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62198FC15 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so1319227ewy.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:51:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=rwoGi22KN/2Lc9u/9jNaRlgm8hxjrmPPVu0UVGli+JE=; b=uZS2Vk+ztmCIeACuJvAtzpunIvr0gGHEW0Po7Cfb5hW2ZXzAQg9aVc0dheOEmoDjca EP919Qcq5wQluOdCrOMcWoht/MrOf86djh04vX4rESNYQleDEJNH8hF23WkDLrfG+d54 6mEQhJgazO6aPBs/zPceV0MCedVlA7QCXcwa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=jTmhxEK9CPsL1prmpZDVFoAHlw3DX3mPmTBBOMOKxMa5/tMImP0HKNjYw9g14F1Ome eWGIfUtws29NLyuppsnS95uftmLNZWK1GQSEeVsGtDtivMTpR5k+PlTotAQsNJHdlfzn 13NY/H4vUE5VB6cu9hRlhuwn2aB8dOwZhoYO8= Received: by 10.213.7.67 with SMTP id c3mr3882859ebc.68.1296170535837; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.org.ru ([213.132.76.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b52sm13322579eei.19.2011.01.27.15.22.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0RNMCxa078491; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:22:12 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0RNMCeB078490; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:22:12 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:22:12 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: Mike Clarke Message-ID: <20110127232212.GD63800@darklight.org.ru> References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> <201101272250.31601.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201101272250.31601.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:51:19 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:50:31PM +0000, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Thursday 27 January 2011, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Fred wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to > > > a PC through USB. > > [snip] > > > Have you tried VirtualBox? You still have to shell out for a > > Windows license, but at least the Gates virus will be contained > > securely on your computer. For me, Virtual Box + FreeBSD has been > > running better than VMWare + OS X. Once again, free software, more > > than worth the price. > > But VirtualBox OSE doesn't support USB. VirtualBox 4 *seems* to support USB (I have the option in the GUI, haven't tried it though). It's available for testing from http://svn.bluelife.at/ at the moment. > > -- > Mike Clarke HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 23:52:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409F8106567A for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerald@pfeifer.com) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF4778FC21 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 49403 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2011 23:25:47 -0000 Received: from 195.135.221.2 (HELO d95.suse.de) (195.135.221.2) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 23:25:47 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 195.135.221.2 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:25:51 +0100 (CET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Rob Farmer , Zbigniew Komarnicki In-Reply-To: <201010271215.48697.cblasius@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <201010271009.13356.cblasius@gmail.com> <201010271215.48697.cblasius@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install - Octave, SuiteSparse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:52:29 -0000 On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote: >> This is probably a GCC problem. What exact version are you using >> (pkg_info | grep gcc)? There is another recent report of issues with >> the latest update to lang/gcc45: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2010-October/064212.html >> >> Perhaps the maintainer knows more (cc'd) or you could try rolling back >> temporarily - I've successfully built suitesparse with 4.5.2.20101014 >> on amd64 current recently. > # pkg_info | grep gcc > gcc-4.4.6.20101012 GNU Compiler Collection 4.4 > gcc-4.5.2.20101021 GNU Compiler Collection 4.5 > gccmakedep-1.0.2 Create dependencies in makefiles using 'gcc -M' Sorry, I just realized I totally missed this question. Are you still seeing the problem? Looking at the web archive of this thread, I do not see anything stand out. What happens if you remove gcc-4.4.6.20101012 and try to build everything with GCC 4.5? It may be worthwhile doing a 'portupgrade -a' or similar and rebuild all ports with one and the same compiler before trying again. Gerald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 01:33:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C4106566C for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 088148FC15 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29904 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2011 01:33:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2011 01:33:34 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E-aBAlYahA5z for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:33:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 29893 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2011 01:33:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 28 Jan 2011 01:33:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4D421B95.1070909@blakemfg.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:27:49 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:33:36 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: > >> I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a >> PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go >> only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the >> Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok >> using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There >> is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would >> I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? > > If you were to be more specific about the device you're considering, > someone may be able to suggest specifics. > > Sometimes Wine is surprising. This was the case when I managed to run > the Arduino software on Wine under FreeBSD. That software speaks to > the microcontroller via serial or USB-to-serial: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AVR/ArduinoWINE > > If your device speaks serial like that, it might work well. If it > wants to do low-level hardware or anything uncommon, it probably will > not work in Wine. > > If you have to get the device anyway, there's little harm in trying it > on Wine. If it doesn't work, you've lost nothing but time, and > probably not much of that. > > > I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. I believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters and the file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer directly or otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask Xeltek if they will give a refund if I can't get the unit working in a reasonable time. If it doesn't work I would otherwise be out of $1500. I will not use Windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 03:47:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CEF1065670 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196698FC0A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0S3lGqC061486; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:47:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0S3lGfN061483; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:47:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:47:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Fred In-Reply-To: <4D421B95.1070909@blakemfg.com> Message-ID: References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> <4D421B95.1070909@blakemfg.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:47:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:47:19 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: >> > I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork > stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. I > believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters and the > file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer directly or > otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask Xeltek if they will > give a refund if I can't get the unit working in a reasonable time. If it > doesn't work I would otherwise be out of $1500. I will not use Windows. There's a downloadable version of the software on the site. If that works acceptably, the final hurdle would be whether it can communicate with the programmer by USB. The site says it's USB 2.0 and installs drivers on Windows, which doesn't bode well for the Wine/FreeBSD setup. It may work, although you have to expect that any support call will blame problems on the non-standard setup. It might be easier to start with open software and choose a programmer that is supported by it. For instance, devel/avrdude supports some faster programmers. Depends on what you need. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 04:08:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0595B1065670 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FC78FC0A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so2887453qwj.13 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:07:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.37.7 with SMTP id v7mr2460223qad.91.1296187679828; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.198.138 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:07:59 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.126] In-Reply-To: References: <201010271009.13356.cblasius@gmail.com> <201010271215.48697.cblasius@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:07:59 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Gerald Pfeifer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Zbigniew Komarnicki , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install - Octave, SuiteSparse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:08:01 -0000 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 15:25, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > Sorry, I just realized I totally missed this question. =A0Are you > still seeing the problem? > > Looking at the web archive of this thread, I do not see anything > stand out. =A0What happens if you remove gcc-4.4.6.20101012 and try > to build everything with GCC 4.5? > > It may be worthwhile doing a 'portupgrade -a' or similar and rebuild > all ports with one and the same compiler before trying again. > > Gerald > IIRC, there was a problematic version of gcc45 somewhere in that time period but it was corrected next time the port was updated. I would suggest the reporter try again with a recent version - I suspect it will work fine. --=20 Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 06:47:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC531065670 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E48D18FC14 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4826 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jan 2011 06:47:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2011 06:47:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=cVbFsCGf0A2wsgI4AvL/QNDE7S73JLBdSE8GuQAkpxfdrizXRg0ZdanfwRofKSoqU0SkKZKHQV6iJ0V4uQKwfWoNUdii1NoL9aPp7nt7kfbroi2Qi/aYipGZ60xNE3Od; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pii6o-0005gB-4Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:47:03 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:37:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:37:29 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD - Message-ID: <20110128063729.GA77721@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD - References: <20110113204525.GB3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <579FC70C-5B5B-43B4-9E71-D765887FAF6F@mac.com> <20110113210319.GD3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <1294955182.10908.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2062F50F-5D14-496C-A97A-FC4CDB3FDD3F@mac.com> <1294955858.10908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20110127203928.GE75822@guilt.hydra> <1296162592.20060.41.camel@dt.vicor.com> <20110127213629.GA76332@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110127213629.GA76332@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:47:04 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried responding to an off-list message. Delivery failed for some reason. I just don't want the sender of the message to which I tried to reply to think I'm ignoring him, so I elected to send this to the list. Thanks for your patience. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1CZCkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXVhACghQ88ehjjLtYRh1pjNf4Nhr3N ov0AoLZWuZREpWPsa4J7elyqMykgh8bj =2s6v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 08:19:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E501065673 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009E28FC0A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:19:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 15725211 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:19:31 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0S8JVaY089334 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:19:31 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p0S8JVSp089333 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:19:31 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:19:31 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110128081931.GA89151@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Cannot remove filesystem ACLs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:19:39 -0000 Colleagues, I don't understand why I cannot completely remove the ACLs from a directory. Please look: # setfacl -b /home/dogovor.common/ # setfacl -k /home/dogovor.common/ # ls -ald !$ ls -ald /home/dogovor.common/ drwxrwx---+ 4 nastenkoea dogovor 3584 13 09:35 /home/dogovor.common/ # getfacl !$ getfacl /home/dogovor.common/ # file: /home/dogovor.common/ # owner: nastenkoea # group: dogovor user::rwx group::rwx mask::rwx other::--- # Why are the "+" sign and the mask entry still there? How do I get rid of them completely? TIA for any input. FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2 i386 -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 09:51:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557B81065670 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackmails@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A5D8FC13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1068299gxk.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:51:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aSw5gK3mfGRk3bZ44fZlmnrcLtlU4f4gMbfVi8qGii4=; b=Mzn63nSgdStx6xLC9CKqolkJBEIyMCTUGMXCyLSe2CIqDEqX3fSDNXiNHIMvSurKra XhqN2UadzbJqWBjvlDamQngmFddYJ4fvJ+EhevdGpUIPOJnPaJEXqXksVGrtflj1EkIj 0rFTEHn+VaO00jGDD7upDeaASvuQErn4lm1BQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ELpJsxNilZVt+pq9dgW9Wo8s9rKXkZYbWyL/IMfvH7H7gfiMUFcO+2ASWCKv0SgE9n RVsq9xmazFecLAJD3yLjkHyQRnBtvyDvy/AipT02V+swFZo4LbWka/TC8y2lP4+t6/aw 6CoWIxZqdJK0+NU4A5eMvzXWMa1W8tczgY210= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.26.24 with SMTP id d24mr4446953agj.160.1296206550269; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.197.6 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 01:22:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:22:30 +0000 Message-ID: From: Jerrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Custom php.ini file not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:51:51 -0000 Hi, i have a freebsd 7.3 server running apache2. php is configured to work with the apache fcgid module. i need to have a custom php.ini file for some websites,the fcgidwrapper script that i use is like this #!/bin/sh PHPRC=/usr/home/somefolder export PHPRC PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN=0 export PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN export PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS=40 #export PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS exec /usr/local/bin/php-cgi a custom php.ini file is here /home/somefolder/php.ini the phpinfo page shows the Loaded Configuration File as /usr/home/somefolder/php.ini Configuration File (php.ini) Path /usr/local/etc Loaded Configuration File /usr/home/somefolder/php.ini Scan this dir for additional .ini files /usr/local/etc/php but the changes made in the /usr/home/somefolder/php.ini doesn't shows up on the phpinfo page. changes made to /usr/local/etc/php.ini also won't show up. only the changes made to the php.ini file in /usr/local/etc/php/php.ini is working. Thank you Rihaz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 10:20:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EFD106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E802B8FC08 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0SAK4Jx003845 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:20:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:20:03 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201101281020.p0SAK33X003843@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] REPOST: Re: help requested in fixing disk label mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:20:07 -0000 I wrote: > A few days ago, I posted here regarding damage resulting from a typing >error and, a few minutes later, posted a followup to correct an error in my >description of the problem. Thus far I've gotten no responses. In case the >lack of response is simply due to the message having gotten lost in the flow, >I'm reposting it below. I hope that someone who is more familiar with the >details of bsdlabels and glabels can help me understand how to correct the >problem because I'm loath at this point to embark upon an ill-informed trial- >and-error experimentation program to recover label and file system(s). > > Scott > ............................repost follows......................... > I just wrote: >> A couple of days ago, I reorganized the internal hard drive of my machine >>to reclaim space that used to be occupied by another operating system for use >>with my now exclusively FreeBSD system. I used a stand-alone partition manager >>to edit the slices down to just two slices. I then attempted to bsdlabel the >>first slice, but made a bit of a slip. When I should have typed >> >> bsdlabel -w ad0s1 >> >>I actually typed >> >> bsdlabel -w da0s1 >> >>Oops. >> I went ahead with the work on the internal drive (ad0), and the system >>is up and running fine. Now I'd like to try to fix the damage done to the >>external drive that I relabeled by mistake. That drive's layout before the >>damage was done was a single slice, divided into two partitions (da0s1 and > ^^^^^ >>da0s2), each of which was then glabel'ed. The moment I rewrote the bsdlabel > ^^^^^ > Yet another pair of mistakes on my part. Those should have said da0s1d >and da0s1e. Sorry for any confusion. > >>for the first slice by mistake, the two partitions' entries in /dev/label >>vanished, of course. I checked and discovered that the only external drive >>for which I had not kept backup copies of the bsdlabel information was that >>drive. :-( Fortunately, the full backups of the file systems that I needed >>to reload onto the internal drive were in the first partition of the external >>drive in question (used to be s1d, now s1a for the time being), so by mounting >>/dev/da0s1a I still had full access to the file system containing the backups. >> My hypothesis is if I can somehow rewrite a correct bsdlabel for the >>affected slice, that the system will then recognize the glabel metadata for >>the two partitions immediately, and the /dev/label entries will appear right >>away like magic. Unfortunately, without a backup file of the bsdlabel >>information, I'm unsure how to accomplish that. Is there some way that I can >>discover the exact size in sectors of the first partition, so that I could >>edit the bsdlabel information and redefine it as two partitions of the correct >>sizes and offsets? Is there some field in dumpfs(8) output that would give me >>what I need (allowing, of course, for the fact that the first partition >>is actually one sector longer than anything dumpfs(8) would know about due to >>the glabel metadata in the final sector of the partition)? Or is my hypothesis >>stated above actually incorrect, and if so, why/how? >> PLEASE send any replies to ME DIRECTLY (or at least Cc: me directly) >>because I receive this list in digest form and am at least a week and a half >>behind on my reading. :-} Thanks much in advance for any helpful ideas. Well, I didn't get any responses, so I ended up testing what I had surmised. First, I edited the bsdlabel for the s1 slice to replace the s1a partition with s1d and s1e partitions. I used "dumpfs -m" to see the sector count that had been used by newfs(8) in creating the file system in the s1d partition and used that value as the size of the s1d partition and that value plus the offset of the s1d partition as the offset of the s1e partition. I took the size of the s1c partition (i.e., the whole slice) minus the offset of the s1e partition as the size of the s1e partition. I rewrote the label and then checked /dev/label for the missing entries. No dice. So I added 1 sector to the size of s1d and the offset of s1e and subtracted 1 sector from the size of s1e, rewrote the label, and checked again. Still nothing. Guessing that there might well have been some leftover sectors in s1d when newfs(8) had created the file system there, I began repeating the process just described. Eventually, on the fifteenth or sixteenth iteration, voila! The missing device files in /dev/label had suddenly reappeared. :-) I then immediately saved a copy of the corrected bsdlabel where I keep copies of the other bsdlabels on my system. So all is now well. I'm posting this result, so that if someone else runs into the same trouble someday, perhaps they will find this method in the list archives and be able to apply it successfully to recover from it, too. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 11:56:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5881065674 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD3A8FC08 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:56:06 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvAFAN02Qk1UXebj/2dsb2JhbACWYY4fc7tfhU8E Received: from outmx01.plus.net ([84.93.230.227]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2011 11:27:07 +0000 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PimTr-0004Ud-5G; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:27:07 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PimTp-0000xi-Pl; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:27:05 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:27:05 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> <201101272250.31601.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <20110127232212.GD63800@darklight.org.ru> In-Reply-To: <20110127232212.GD63800@darklight.org.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201101281127.05679.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Yuri Pankov Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:56:07 -0000 On Thursday 27 January 2011, Yuri Pankov wrote: > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:50:31PM +0000, Mike Clarke wrote: [snip] > > But VirtualBox OSE doesn't support USB. > > VirtualBox 4 *seems* to support USB (I have the option in the GUI, > haven't tried it though). It's available for testing from > http://svn.bluelife.at/ at the moment. That's very welcome news. I have a USB printer (Canon iP4500) which works very well with FreeBSD as far as printing is concerned but it's a bit of a pain having to move it over to a Windows PC if I want to run any of the utilities like checking ink levels or head cleaning. USB support with VirtualBox would be very useful for that. I'm usually rather hesitant when it comes to experimenting with 'bleeding edge' versions of software but I'm seriously tempted to give this one a try. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 12:19:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F32B106566C for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAC88FC14 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0SCSm1q090264; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:28:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:28:48 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: elbbit@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:19:56 -0000 > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:08:06 +0000 > From: elbbit > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? > > On 27/01/11 17:04, Bill Moran ... > > Thank you for taking the time to reply Bill. I am glad you challenge me. > Someone needs to! > > > In response to elbbit : > >> On 27/01/11 14:41, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >>> Hi Simon, > >> Thanks for taking the time to reply Andrew. > >> > >>> elbbit wrote: > >>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website > >>>> at: http://www.tibble.net/ > >>>> > >>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! > >>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... > >> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for > >> being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming for > >> teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global self > >> awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we like to > >> know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in > >> my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world > >> will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. > > > > You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. > > > If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another > > thread without changing the subject? > With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent > these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too important > to worry about whether or not my particular message fits into a defined > category. And you think it's OK to *STEAL* other people's resources to get "your" message out, apparently. The people who run the mailing lists _pay_ for that equipment and network connectivity, and provide it to others for a specific use. You _are_ a thief, and as already stated "a bad liar, and a delusional dipshit." Doing what you did is *expressly* against The AUP of your hosting services provider, Webfusion, Ltd. That said, you've _made_ your rules, and now *you8 get to live by them. Since _you_ believe it is "OK" to inflict your 'important' message on those you do not know, and who have _not_ consented to hear it, you =cannot= object if the 'world' decides to do the same to _you_ and your mailbox. Russian brides, pharmaceutcals, watches, lottery winnings, money sharing, and whatever else people decide is 'too important' for _you_ not to be informed of. Annoying people who *run* mail-servers is a _really_ stupid thing to do. But, then, you're a spammer. And have just re-proven the validity of Rule #3, and Kruegers Corrolary thereunto, of the "Rules of Spam". see: So, I guess, it's not _all_ that surprising. email: simon@tibble.net Domain name: TIBBLE.NET Registrant: Simon Tibble 74 Park Street Penrhiwceiber Mountain Ash, Rhondda Cynon Taff CF45 3YL GB 07767650385 Fax: 07767650385 Registration Service Provider: services@123-reg.co.uk 08712309525 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 12:30:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D0C1065673 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DC48FC1B for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so690735qyk.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:30:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.248.212 with SMTP id mh20mr918386qcb.89.1296217807332; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.102.19 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:30:07 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.175.76] In-Reply-To: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> References: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:30:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Could any port be sucking up bandwidth? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:30:08 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, > > Before the 11th of January I was streaming both audio and video > streams with little to zero wait time. =A0In other words, I could > stream about 50 minutes of audio with only a second or two of pause > time delay [[AKA congestion]]. Try sockstat(1) and watch for other processes' connections. And remember: sometimes, it's the network provider doing traffic shaping, i.e. throttling your line based on the kind of traffic you're generating. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 12:42:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1138B1065673 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DB68FC19 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxh35 with SMTP id 35so1094625yxh.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.95.17 with SMTP id o17mr5194192yhf.10.1296218538051; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a79sm2608396yhd.45.2011.01.28.04.42.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CF36E54824 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:42:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:42:11 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110128074211.0a8c3dc6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:42:21 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:28:48 -0600 (CST) Robert Bonomi articulated: > But, then, you're a spammer. And have just re-proven the validity of > Rule #3, and Kruegers Corrolary thereunto, of the "Rules of Spam". > > see: I would, except all I keep getting are: 404 - Not Found error messages. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 14:06:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50E2106566C for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D8D8FC14 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10033286; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:06:14 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10033284 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:05:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4D42CD44.9040806@radel.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:05:56 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D41C296.8020605@gmail.com> <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110128074211.0a8c3dc6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110128074211.0a8c3dc6@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:06:15 -0000 On 1/28/11 7:42 AM, Jerry wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:28:48 -0600 (CST) > Robert Bonomi articulated: > >> But, then, you're a spammer. And have just re-proven the validity of >> Rule #3, and Kruegers Corrolary thereunto, of the "Rules of Spam". >> >> see: > > I would, except all I keep getting are: > > 404 - Not Found > > error messages. > Remove the spurious "d" from the end of the URL. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 14:24:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37E61065679 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D088FC1D for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so3226996wwf.31 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:24:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+6w5/L3yNnFI4S9KOE9g+i0ZvmMBuyshK/3aBIf4xd4=; b=L613P+Q7t/+Ug/6j/9uPA6PQBvXQzg+OkEnKu5HN5wgP787a17lXcDdsYfc2E8tpX9 ah8CR6WQHeR5tZk/ELA23gBrYQUa/mrsWbIRDgL9dikT911E2rhSkCKbTHEyVorrUxpf lUC/qwqKbgRTqLH3cCB1JrNi6ETeoj4m0TlqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BRcL98k96dZeKCKKC2I99f9Pz9hhLAvt0QYcdeNs6woAJ3cakslfVq59H8JS4FFnmo T9d3NpX1b0LfX8ydg2cHgNq4eNbKWRXwZ8EArG/3euQkebbbR5MwTpGoSHOtOzwiaNvj MDTn4Zt/csC7WsK4haiIgwsiCsY8XW1wEL5Pw= Received: by 10.227.151.65 with SMTP id b1mr2702617wbw.163.1296224653658; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.58.223] ([212.183.128.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f35sm12730774wbf.2.2011.01.28.06.24.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:24:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:05 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:16 -0000 On 28/01/11 12:28, Robert Bonomi wrote: Thank you for taking the time to reply Robert. I value your opinion. >>>>> elbbit wrote: >>>>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new >>>>>> website at: http://www.tibble.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! >>>>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... >>>> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded >>>> for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop >>>> spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the >>>> importance of global self awareness is too important to worry >>>> about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This >>>> is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here >>>> to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become >>>> self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. >>> >>> You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. >> >>> If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack >>> another thread without changing the subject? >> With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who >> frequent these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is >> too important to worry about whether or not my particular message >> fits into a defined category. > > And you think it's OK to *STEAL* other people's resources to get > "your" message out, apparently. Hmm. Stealing. Taking without consent. Consent from whom? The network operator? According to the Debian website: "There are many world-open mailing lists, meaning anyone can read everything that is posted, and participate in the discussions. Everyone is encouraged..." - Under the heading Introduction: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ Hmm. I assumed the service was being offered to me. If I am wrong, I would like more people to confirm if Robert is right. > The people who run the mailing lists _pay_ for that equipment and Pay... with money... which is a made up idea... > network connectivity, and provide it to others for a specific use. ...in this case, communication... which we are doing :-) > You _are_ a thief, and as already stated "a bad liar, and a > delusional dipshit." My opinion is that according to the instruction provided to it, your computer did all it can to send me your information. I did not steal it. You gave it to me. You offered, you know - where you make a motion towards me? > Doing what you did is *expressly* against The AUP of your hosting > services provider, Webfusion, Ltd. > Yes. Words. Somehow, it is commonly accepted that just because something is written in words that it is "right." My emails challenge that. > That said, you've _made_ your rules, and now *you8 get to live by > them. I do not understand this statement. Please clarify. > Since _you_ believe it is "OK" to inflict your 'important' message on > those you do not know, and who have _not_ consented to hear it, you > =cannot= object if the 'world' decides to do the same to _you_ and > your mailbox. I agree, with everything that is me. But does this also not apply to you, also? I think you have made an error by joining a "world-open mailing list" if you are unable to tolerate other people's words. > Russian brides, pharmaceutcals, watches, lottery winnings, money > sharing, and whatever else people decide is 'too important' for > _you_ not to be informed of. You see, the people who raise awareness of their product or service are after one thing - to increase the number which is displayed on their ATM machine. I do not want money. I do not promote a service or product. In fact, I promote an IDEA - the notion that we can abandon money altogether. > Annoying people who *run* mail-servers is a _really_ stupid thing to > do. Unfortunately, any one who is part of the growing movement realises that ridicule, torture or even certain death are requirements of changing the world. John F. Kennedy, one of your own president's, paid dearly simply for saying some words. I say some words, and you too, want to kill me. I forgive you for being so misguided. > But, then, you're a spammer. Try not to think of me as someone different. I am someone the same. I have two arms, two legs, two eyes, I breathe air, I eat food, I use the toilet, I have sex - I do all the normal thing you do too. You and I are not as different you think. The only major difference between us all is how we spend our time. Hence, I do not think of people in "groups" or stereotypes. I see that some people choose to learn about the world around them, and others do not. Some people take the word of others to be the absolute truth - because they trust them. Who do you trust? You certainly don't trust me - and with good cause. The idea I suggest (abandoning money) is too big for your brain to comprehend... not because you lack the processing ability to deal with it, but because you refuse to think about a world without money. Try it. You and I are probably never going to meet in all this random stuff which is going on in the world. But just imagine... no money? Working in co-operation? Just like open-source? How about an open-source world, and not just limited to software? Can you imagine that? I know you can, we all can. And some of us already do. > And have just re-proven the validity of Rule #3, and Kruegers > Corrolary thereunto, of the "Rules of Spam". Rules. Laws. All pointless. You see, if a car is travelling a road and it hits another car, the operator of the vehicle is blamed, and then a public outcry occurs. The people standing up saying "this can not be tolerated, something must be done" which is when they turn to someone looking to lead them. Up steps a politician, who takes your authority and says "hmm, yes, we make a rule that all cars must not exceed XX speed." The problem with rules and laws is that they are often ignored. Why don't we just harness technology, using our abilities that we have TODAY to just enable cars to have radar as part of their on board computers to stop collisions occurring? Why don't we do this? Because of the money? What, that made-up-idea again? Please! This is insanity! > see: I removed the "d". Not too sure about the flying kids, looks a bit porno-related to me. Hmm, I think it's biased too. This is just my opinion though. > So, I guess, it's not _all_ that surprising. No, it's not all that surprising that we could have a different world. The solution is that everyone must decide to stop using money and create a better world. Simple. You have to choose to make it better. Don't scared. The fact you include my address does not scare me. I'm not scared of anyone. I am not living in fear (like you) I am living in love - and I have nothing but love for all humans. I love you, and your words, and every one, and if you wonder how this came to be, just start searching Google for yourself. The answers are out there. How are you going to spend your time from now on? With the kindest of regards from, Simon Tibble 74 Park Street Mountain Ash CF45 3YL GREAT BRITAIN EUROPE THE PLANET EARTH THE MILKY WAY THE UNIVERSE ^^^ Don't you see .... we share this planet. Let's work together to make it a better place :-) > > > > > email: simon@tibble.net > > Domain name: TIBBLE.NET > > Registrant: Simon Tibble 74 Park Street Penrhiwceiber Mountain Ash, > Rhondda Cynon Taff CF45 3YL GB 07767650385 Fax: 07767650385 > > Registration Service Provider: services@123-reg.co.uk 08712309525 > > > > -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 14:50:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424C41065672 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57578FC14 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so3347411wyf.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:50:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QjnNBPT45T+ANZyU3nOCtrGDg0skWXKdGzROrk35uz4=; b=BTK5R2rsq63TkYYd/9S/uLWnDSdIcsfBQZ2WORO3o/HFZ9KzzSM/QFsDSVTwF228Kk IVkiXbhyM39XIuqY2xKH8mZGWLava2DGk7mWkn5Qwxzb4YsiXDUE+H0c/HZ1J8KqMPv9 NkTpr5IYsmRqA/WUkRcUCFO3siTpHTL7OJZK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wsC2Ky2JLVtM3x8eclX/YRBgLWFoe00VLBOSeFPpGC9MOsJNc3rl64MltoRVTr2L74 ElcEJ6lziKZy5yT0iysI1u4bIEAuf3YgstDWIrXWnPzPDLpx+Y206vS18tSRIUEnWpf2 2h6PyID0fJpDyqD8Es9+zsDnsj9H7oVbklIso= Received: by 10.227.129.17 with SMTP id m17mr2767892wbs.79.1296226217556; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.58.223] ([212.183.128.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm7617929wbd.22.2011.01.28.06.50.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:50:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42D7A4.3010506@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:50:12 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:50:20 -0000 > On 28/01/11 12:28, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> see: > I removed the "d". Not too sure about the flying kids, looks a bit > porno-related to me. Hmm, I think it's biased too. This is just my > opinion though. > Further to my email earlier, I present to you my logical analysis of your link, analysed by item: > Rule #0: Spam is theft. Mail servers are offering a service. If you don't want to receive spam stop offering the service. > Angel's Commentary: Spammers believe it's okay to steal a little bit > from each person on the Internet at once. Stealing... taking without consent... hey, you offered to deliver some mail for me. > Rule #1: Spammers lie. Assumptive. Just like when you lose something you assume it may be gone for ever, but wait, no, there it is, you left it in your pocket. Assumptions can be wrong as well as right. > Russel's Admonition: Always assume that there is a measurable chance > that the entity you are dealing with is a spammer. Sounds like an instruction. Maybe, it would be better as a guideline: "There is a chance a person is attempting to deliver mail, which the sender may want people to read. The words contained in the message are series of numbers and letters which may communicate an idea which you do not agree with." > Lexical Contradiction: Spammers will redefine any term in order to > disguise their abuse of Internet resources. It is true that some people lie and cheat and say whatever is neccessary for the own personal gain. Most of these lies are to do with a personal motivation to make money. Money, which is a made up idea. > Sharp's Corollary: Spammers attempt to re-define "spamming" as that > which they do not do. Hmm. As I continue my analysis it seems that you are defining a "spammer" as any one who has an idea which you do not like. Just because an idea is not to your liking does not mean that it does not exist. > Finnell's Corollary: Spammers define "remove" as "validate." Probably true. Did you ask them? The have phones and watch YouTube, just like you do. > Rule #2: If a spammer seems to be telling the truth, see Rule #1. I don't understand this one. You think that because I read it once I did not absorb the information on your web page into my brain and compute for myself an assessment of it's content? Wow. > Crissman's Corollary: A spammer, when caught, blames his victims. Well, I'm sure that if no blood is being spilt that forgiveness is possible. Maybe you could forgive "spammers" for being so misguided? > Moore's Corollary: Spammers' lies are seldom questioned by mainstream > media. Agreed. This is probably because both "spammers" (as you define them) and the "mainstream media" are the same goal -> MONEY. So, you see, why don't we just stop using money and maybe some of these problems might go away? > Rule #3: Spammers are stupid. Assumptive. I think anyone who is able to reverse-engineer a mail filter is educated enough to know enough about the world in order to "abuse" it. If we stop using money, people the make the mail filters and those who make the "spam" could use their skill differently. > Krueger's Corollary: Spammer lies are really stupid. Lies always are. All lies are exposed eventually. > Pickett's Commentary: Spammer lies are boring. I disagree. Some stories are fascinating; they draw you in with a lure and promise of something great - even if it is just a story. Like the story of money. Of yeah, we made that up didn't we. > Russell's Corollary: Never underestimate the stupidity of spammers. If it were my web page (which I don't think it would, but hey, work with me here), instead of that I would probably write: "Never assume people spend their time in the same way you do, and accept that people will choose to do different things with their time." > Spinosa's Corollary: Spammers assume everybody is more stupid than > themselves. Assumptive. I don't assume, I *KNOW* everybody spends their time differently. > Spammer's Standard of Discourse: Threats and intimidation trump facts > and logic. Facts and logics: an excellent argument. > Rule #4: The natural course of a spamming business is to go bankrupt. Bankrupt... to end a process or time with no money... oh dear. Not money again. Hmm. > Rules-Keeper Shaffer's Refrain: Spammers routinely prove the Rules of > Spam are valid. Humans never cease to amaze me at how wonderful our collective effort has become. Simon Tibble UK > > How are you going to spend your time from now on? > > With the kindest of regards from, > > Simon Tibble > 74 Park Street > Mountain Ash > CF45 3YL > GREAT BRITAIN > EUROPE > THE PLANET EARTH > THE MILKY WAY > THE UNIVERSE > > ^^^ Don't you see .... we share this planet. Let's work together to > make it a better place :-) > >> >> >> >> >> email: simon@tibble.net >> >> Domain name: TIBBLE.NET >> >> Registrant: Simon Tibble 74 Park Street Penrhiwceiber Mountain Ash, >> Rhondda Cynon Taff CF45 3YL GB 07767650385 Fax: 07767650385 >> >> Registration Service Provider: services@123-reg.co.uk 08712309525 >> >> >> >> > > -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 15:21:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71A4106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5C98FC12 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so3286236wwf.31 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:21:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DfxB0TxTGuGcAqgHkxqSCAqW0+bvdGWIGtDPHlc6vaY=; b=gEXQczsxE5RtgGa1tkZl4PLyyiPDtM5jZgEgCetKWmy+oWJB/IHLzc+RW42qZ2jYSY XtQZ5zgMUFcZCm4Xk3vHL2BckbblpyX4WLpdsHUPdRchsqgVYPl/O7RiCVzfiAolci7Y 6Ip5pdyfj89/5HM5ts0lRPSpcBOcJ23/SbBk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A31GAm73F8iv5J167ucEnvlIcCJmffbxv/tD0lXUkdmrdqxG2bHSnjcvAjg5+MpSUL RdhF3Pi0BufrI1/d3klpakKnvBpD328R+vKtxWEIJY3MUeJ8UbR1bMQUTbIpJz9DTJN1 eNy1CLckul3Y6cRbM1JKs/70ufNWsaZiN0yys= Received: by 10.227.93.32 with SMTP id t32mr2787203wbm.158.1296228118206; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from prime.nonspace ([82.132.211.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w25sm1719726wbd.17.2011.01.28.07.21.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 07:21:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42DF1B.7080604@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:22:03 +0000 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101215 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: syslog and chrooted isc-dhcpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:21:59 -0000 Hello, I'm running my isc-dhcp41-server with chroot option. Is it possible to get it working with syslog? I don't know how to let chrooted dhcpd to talk with my syslog. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 16:07:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960FA106566B for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D018FC12 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95B45088A; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:07:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id AF3645788DD; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:07:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CF85788DC; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:07:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.174]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:07:12 -0600 From: Gary Gatten To: 'elbbit' , Robert Bonomi Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:07:11 -0600 Thread-Topic: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) Thread-Index: Acu++r1GfrIsvhGXS/qkrw/0ttarHwACTbWw Message-ID: <17160_1296230832_4D42E9B0_17160_167_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499AF0FA62F@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> <4D42D7A4.3010506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D42D7A4.3010506@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "debian-user@lists.debian.org" Subject: RE: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:07:23 -0000 OMFG... how much longer are "we" going to keep commenting on this worthless= thread? And now the debian list too? That's great... Dear Hijacker: You are the superior one, all others are inferior. You are= right, all others are wrong. Please go away. Perhaps preach your "wisdom= " to a more receptive audience, such as your stuffed toy animals. You know= , the ones you keep in your Mommies basement where you live? Thank you for enlightening all of us with your superior wisdom. Have a gre= at life. G
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 16:17:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5360C106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC668FC1A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0SGQHUq091539; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:26:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:26:17 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101281626.p0SGQHUq091539@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com, elbbit@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:17:22 -0000 > From elbbit@gmail.com Fri Jan 28 08:33:17 2011 > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:05 +0000 > From: elbbit > To: Robert Bonomi > CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? > > On 28/01/11 12:28, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Thank you for taking the time to reply Robert. I value your opinion. > >>>>> elbbit wrote: > >>>>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website > >>>>>> at: http://www.tibble.net/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! > >>>>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... > >>>> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for > >>>> being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming > >>>> for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global > >>>> self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we > >>>> like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a > >>>> hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going > >>>> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is > >>>> why I have been born. > >>> > >>> You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. > >> > >>> If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another > >>> thread without changing the subject? > >> With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent > >> these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too > >> important to worry about whether or not my particular message fits > >> into a defined category. > > > > And you think it's OK to *STEAL* other people's resources to get > > "your" message out, apparently. > Hmm. Stealing. Taking without consent. Consent from whom? The network > operator? According to the Debian website: "There are many world-open > mailing lists, meaning anyone can read everything that is posted, and > participate in the discussions. Everyone is encouraged..." - Under the > heading Introduction: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ Yes, *STEALING*. When you 'hijack' the resources the mailing-list owner/ operator has provided _for_a_specific_purpose_, for somethin *unrelated* to that purpose, you _are_ stealing. > Hmm. I assumed the service was being offered to me. If I am wrong, I > would like more people to confirm if Robert is right. > > > The people who run the mailing lists _pay_ for that equipment and > Pay... with money... which is a made up idea... > > > network connectivity, and provide it to others for a specific use. > ...in this case, communication... which we are doing :-) > > > You _are_ a thief, and as already stated "a bad liar, and a delusional > > dipshit." > My opinion is that according to the instruction provided to it, your > computer did all it can to send me your information. I did not steal it. > You gave it to me. You offered, you know - where you make a motion > towards me? > > Doing what you did is *expressly* against The AUP of your hosting > > services provider, Webfusion, Ltd. > > > Yes. Words. Somehow, it is commonly accepted that just because > something is written in words that it is "right." My emails challenge > that. You _agreed_, _contractually_, to abide by those 'words' when you signed up for services with that provider. They 'took your word' that you were telling the truth. Do not be surprised if you find that they choose not to do any further business with you when they find out you -lied- to them. > > > That said, you've _made_ your rules, and now *you8 get to live by them. > I do not understand this statement. Please clarify. > > > Since _you_ believe it is "OK" to inflict your 'important' message on > > those you do not know, and who have _not_ consented to hear it, you > > =cannot= object if the 'world' decides to do the same to _you_ and your > > mailbox. > I agree, with everything that is me. But does this also not apply to > you, also? I think you have made an error by joining a "world-open > mailing list" if you are unable to tolerate other people's words. > > > Russian brides, pharmaceutcals, watches, lottery winnings, money > > sharing, and whatever else people decide is 'too important' for > > _you_ not to be informed of. > You see, the people who raise awareness of their product or service are > after one thing - to increase the number which is displayed on their ATM > machine. I do not want money. I do not promote a service or product. In > fact, I promote an IDEA - the notion that we can abandon money > altogether. So What? If you believe you can decide what is 'appropriate' for for _my_ mail box, others can do the same for *yours*. > > Annoying people who *run* mail-servers is a _really_ stupid thing to > > do. > Unfortunately, any one who is part of the growing movement realises that > ridicule, torture or even certain death are requirements of changing the > world. John F. Kennedy, one of your own president's, paid dearly simply > for saying some words. I say some words, and you too, want to kill me. > I forgive you for being so misguided. > > > But, then, you're a spammer. > Try not to think of me as someone different. You _are_ different. *PROVEN* by your actions. And someone I do -not_ care to associate with. > I am someone the same. Demonstratably incorrect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 16:22:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E971065672 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4758FC1F for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so3346030wwf.31 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:22:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=S1KJ0hhhi8gCw6ZwVyi5ZLU4CH95/SIExOqGyqBPCCQ=; b=Dm7Gf671ALL8Mihvu9LuH63ijrEqARrBbWh7J/poSTBjugvm2QQwD+ldXDnOZzztvL wHe6NfJy1hFzDVKDH8RUHdQP2W244GHxdpWNglIpy+Ask1QmvvIZvKdOKHwPb+e85jL1 mHY9g7CdsI7qt5iGjngBMwLzjqVk2aUmFsyLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hCGIIwYarsoZ+7UT2443grvbjKb47P0kZsI9tfYZblxBF10M6DLOGoZEg/Y7Sgc3Fa /O7yLqWT0pjw5pwfi+yfzx6j5pEpIDXNAhjXyQBq/tpF86LN5Kpaxj5kh5sI67WMzqIC 0n4nL2ad+wSgXVXI50QFSwqOkGxNc1l6haVm0= Received: by 10.227.155.66 with SMTP id r2mr2897969wbw.73.1296231726353; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.58.223] ([212.183.128.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6sm1156006wbo.3.2011.01.28.08.22.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:22:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42ED28.5000602@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:22:00 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101281615.p0SGFjEw091476@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101281615.p0SGFjEw091476@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:29:50 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:22:08 -0000 On 28/01/11 16:15, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From elbbit@gmail.com Fri Jan 28 08:59:21 2011 >>> On 28/01/11 12:28, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>>> see: >>> Rule #0: Spam is theft. >> Mail servers are offering a service. If you don't want to receive >> spam stop offering the service. >>> Angel's Commentary: Spammers believe it's okay to steal a little >>> bit from each person on the Internet at once. >> Stealing... taking without consent... hey, you offered to deliver >> some mail for me. > LIE. What? Now you are saying that you didn't offer to send the mail for me? You just received THIS email so you are STILL offering the service of reception to me. > The mailing list operator offered to deliver mail for a SPECIFIC > PURPOSE. You _disregarded_ that purpose. Please identify the purpose if it is not "discussion." We are discussing "spam," are we not? >>> Rule #1: Spammers lie. >> Assumptive. Just like when you lose something you assume it may be >> gone for ever, but wait, no, there it is, you left it in your >> pocket. Assumptions can be wrong as well as right. > Your are a spammer. Assumptive. I could label you back, but I am able to control my emotions. > you lied. see above. Q.E.D. I'm not going to repeat something which has already been done. This is the equivalent of making a journey from my office to the mail box twice just to deliver a single envelope. > The rest of your 'analysis' simply proves Shar's Commentary. Who is Shar? And what did they comment? A reference please. I tried a Google search for this, but it is too vague. > Enjoy the fruits of your labors. I don't "work" like you do. I live in a world without money, without rules and restrictions, without deadlines and targets. I don't labour anything - I leisure everything. Simon -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 16:50:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235D7106566B for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AA38FC14 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3331461iwn.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.173.10 with SMTP id p10mr4137595icz.49.1296233451007; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:50:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.202 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:50:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D42ED28.5000602@gmail.com> References: <201101281615.p0SGFjEw091476@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4D42ED28.5000602@gmail.com> From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:50:30 -0500 Message-ID: To: elbbit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:50:52 -0000 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM, elbbit wrote: > I don't "work" like you do. I live in a world without money, without > rules and restrictions, without deadlines and targets. I don't labour > anything - I leisure everything. > So Simon, you must be the poor man I pass on the street every day and give Quarters to for coffee? Here is a label for you to chew on YOU ARE A SPAMMER! *THIS* list is for FreeBSD-related questions not for you to shove your inflammatory words down our throats. You've made your point, now please go away. No one *ON THIS LIST* wants to read your words, we no longer care about your opinion or what it means because you clearly don't care about our opinion for you to change the subject and get on a topic for this list. Speaking of topics ... just because a mailing list is open for you to send mail to DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN SPAM IT WITH NONSENSE!!!!! freebsd-questions has a purpose and it would be wise for you to adhere to it, there are also rules of etiquette which you should also adhere to. Each piece of mail you have sent has been reported to your ISP/Carrier. Each piece of mail you continue to send will lodge you yet another complaint. I will continue to do this till I piss your ISP/Carrier off SO bad, they are left with two choices .... nullroute me or deal with you .... since I have many thousands of domains at my disposal, I think, from a business perspective, they will choose to cut you off, cold-turkey then deal w/ the technical resources required to continue to block me, also if enough other people from both the freebsd and debian lists complain, your ISP/Carrier may even choose to seek legal action from you. You *are* in violation of your agreement, a legally binding contract in your country of origin and the ISP/Carrier. Simon, do not reply, we no longer wish to here your dribble and we so desperately wish for you to crawl back into the hole whence you came. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 16:54:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953E0106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35E28FC1B for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22E12F.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.225.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0SGruXF022300 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:53:58 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0SGrr1a024576 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:53:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0SGrl3A073491 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:53:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201101281653.p0SGrl3A073491@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:07:11 CST." <17160_1296230832_4D42E9B0_17160_167_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499AF0FA62F@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:53:47 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:54:03 -0000 Hi, > OMFG... how much longer are "we" going to keep commenting on this > worthless thread? And now the debian list too? That's great... Agreed :-) Debian list dropped as cross posting bad. Individual cc's dropped as one is the troll, & other don't need copies. For those new to this FreeBSD list who may not know yet, there are generaly 3 ways of rescuing FreeBSD lists: - People reply to troll: "Please move to " - Or post to list: "Please don't feed the troll" (Then others cease replying). - &/Or report to , asking that the troll be added to black list, as postings not relevant to FreeBSD list. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 16:43:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1961065674 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993C58FC15 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so3367748wwf.31 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:43:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UYnc+mlDk8ITbVSuA+QyBl2ubTEnPJfjGpfzuH4JiIU=; b=rzHn6BZ3NbEpQavtoo0UKCj2Y5cugI4GEa0Yy7y2ApFSVP2bkC48VkqLco3fhwnI0l /Q/avbxN6qGZ+TmPLZrswmnOhb3h6L/WYM/XAWM/Wo5Hwb5WxcPHSDXWbvFxzzLCuIyd ZPEfO3GHsNE+d5MGnjz3azaWQlTVPtMr8crfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=f3U9Nv0Pd+b5jFmm+ymH23bkBeh2boHfHaJOiMClnpGddrGE1EI1vcVrWanhYS0XCf yKwTqMDl84CdfPQkDETNV0NwQmye+DEmX/h2NGCTyIVqSwxh4A6E2OOIUHqDEMKBuW5D nMLGlmd+XwSgl+aSSkpTBFqnoZdelSVsDdzSc= Received: by 10.227.132.206 with SMTP id c14mr2903939wbt.124.1296233006509; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.58.223] ([212.183.128.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6sm1169980wbo.15.2011.01.28.08.43.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:43:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42F220.1050900@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:43:12 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Gatten References: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> <4D42D7A4.3010506@gmail.com> <17160_1296230832_4D42E9B0_17160_167_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499AF0FA62F@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <17160_1296230832_4D42E9B0_17160_167_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499AF0FA62F@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:55:42 +0000 Cc: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:43:28 -0000 On 28/01/11 16:07, Gary Gatten wrote: > Oh dear. > OMFG... how much longer are "we" going to keep commenting on this > worthless thread? Hmm. Worthless... without value... an entity lacking substance. Hmm. This thread was started by me. Now let me see, yes, I still have my arms and legs. Which must logically mean I have substance. And I have spent my time since birth learning about the world around me and embracing it. From all the information I have learnt about life and other people, I believe I have substance. And, as a result, my creations (my emails) are born from that substance. I forgive you. > And now the debian list too? That's great... I think you underestimate the size of the problem I am highlighting: forgetting money. > Dear Hijacker: You are the superior one, all others are inferior. You are incorrect. I am the same as everyone else, just as you are. > You are right, all others are wrong. Try not to see things as a case of right or wrong. Instead, try to realise the truth: people spend their time differently. Your brain is only as reliable as the information you have fed into it, and based on that information, you make decisions. > Please go away. You may succeed in silencing me as an individual, but you will not silence the growing Zeitgeist movement which is happening all around us. > Perhaps preach your "wisdom" to a more receptive audience, I think some people on these lists are questioning this thread, maybe even doing their own Google searches to learn for themselves. These are the people who will embrace the new world without money, whilst others who close their minds and only accept the old will be left behind. Just as the horse gave way to the motor car, so will money be left behind. > such as your stuffed toy animals. I don't own any, though my woman has a few. It's a girl thing I think. > You know, the ones you keep in your Mommies basement where you live? I live in my own house, I eat my own food and I am very happy with my life. Making assumptions is not a reliable way to make decisions and learn new information. > Thank you for enlightening all of us with your superior wisdom. I am not superior. I have spent my time differently. > Have a great life. I already have a great life, and together, we could make it even better. > "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient > and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email > and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender > by return email and delete this email from your system." ^^^ How can I delete your words from the internal memory in my brain, once I have read them? Simon -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 17:03:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF9F106566B for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BFB8FC12 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4D42F6D8.96845.7583 ; Authuser web; 28 Jan 2011 12:03:20 EST Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:59:34 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20110128165934.GA72065@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:03:22 -0000 According to Warren Block on Thu, 01/27/11 at 16:41: > > > >Which is the correct port to install this "poppler-cairo" file? >=20 > poppler-0.14.5 >=20 > Be sure to clean it before rebuilding and installing. Thanks for the reply. I did a "make deinstall" in /usr/ports/graphics/poppler and it claimed an include directory was not able to be deleted. I deleted this directory by hand - something about the packing list being incorrect or something. Then I did a "make clean" in the same graphics/poppler directory. I followed this with a "make install" and when that completed with success, I issued this: # ls -l /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc ls: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc: No such file or direc= tory This from the Makefile therein: PORTNAME=3D poppler PORTVERSION=3D 0.14.5 PORTREVISION?=3D 0 So something is clearly wrong here. The /var/db/ports/poppler/OPTIONS file had: WITHOUT_CAIRO=3Dyes inside, so I changed that to WITH_CAIRO=3Dyes and repeated the above steps. The file /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc is now there! However, I still get this error when I attempt to rebuild the Gimp using "make clean" and "make install" inside /usr/ports/graphics/gimp: cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/l= ocal/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/= atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/u= sr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/= include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/= usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/in= clude -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE = -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/poppl= er/glib -I/usr/local/include/poppler -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/l= ocal/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/g= tk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0= -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/fr= eetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ = -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissi= ng-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-styl= e-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tp= o -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory file-pdf.c:70: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:77: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:80: error: expected '=3D', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' be= fore '*' token file-pdf.c:83: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c: In function 'run': file-pdf.c:330: error: 'PopplerDocument' undeclared (first use in this func= tion) file-pdf.c:330: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once file-pdf.c:330: error: for each function it appears in.) file-pdf.c:330: error: 'doc' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:331: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code file-pdf.c:356: warning: implicit declaration of function 'open_document' file-pdf.c:364: warning: implicit declaration of function 'load_dialog' file-pdf.c:380: error: 'PopplerPage' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:380: error: 'test_page' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:380: warning: implicit declaration of function 'poppler_document= _get_page' file-pdf.c:405: warning: implicit declaration of function 'load_image' file-pdf.c:449: error: 'page' undeclared (first use in this function) file-pdf.c:453: warning: implicit declaration of function 'poppler_page_get= _size' file-pdf.c:458: warning: implicit declaration of function 'get_thumbnail' file-pdf.c:458: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a ca= st file-pdf.c: At top level: file-pdf.c:515: error: expected '=3D', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' b= efore '*' token file-pdf.c:570: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:680: error: expected ')' before '*' token file-pdf.c:729: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'PopplerDoc= ument' file-pdf.c: In function 'thumbnail_thread': file-pdf.c:762: warning: implicit declaration of function 'poppler_document= _get_n_pages' file-pdf.c:762: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'document' file-pdf.c:768: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'selector' file-pdf.c:772: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'document' file-pdf.c:773: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a ca= st file-pdf.c:777: error: 'ThreadData' has no member named 'stop_thumbnailing' file-pdf.c: At top level: file-pdf.c:785: error: expected ')' before '*' token gmake[3]: *** [file_pdf-file-pdf.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/= plug-ins/common' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/= plug-ins' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gimp. Investigating this I found poppler.h in this directory: /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/ on another system recently upgraded where the Gimp had built successfully. This directory did not exist here! That directory was the one I had to manually delete earlier when "making clean" for graphics/poppler. Since this directory was not recreated (coupled with the fact that it wasn't removed via "make deinstall") indicates there may be a problem with the packing list of graphics/poppler. I found the missing include files in this directory: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/ After I copied them to /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/ (having made it with mkdir) I was successfully able to build the Gimp. All this is very strange... Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 17:15:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6F5106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA96B8FC08 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so1231462wwi.1 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=W3W8LYK/3pfwz6Oyhezh5dz1C0vdLE+3B5GcedqY1pI=; b=OFxR2o34WfPRobVY5X/nF24hrQ1VBhiIl3oN/oTuDyfWCKaPvArBr/DDCm1s019e3x w8bGVaRNMHFFXm7P6UxVxxt0ZqJanMt6H9sryLIRzHxwpgd1vinJYdW95JQALjqYbHM1 7am0LPJEePL1JyHvXWxnRSuRD8wNSey9W2Ud0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=RfdAKemxXzf7nmP0U9B5O0NU4t7J/BPY4cDnrkKqhqWqwefakeomren1asi6oUqM3P W3ODBP0fmuHK8tw3SUhnLbGke0K2FiNO0PZCzHYv4Y01Q/yQVapfkg3i6Rr8Htnv96nV M/zJGvhi+oSV4RrgO6o5+ordsk+tTohNFuRJs= Received: by 10.227.181.138 with SMTP id by10mr2950245wbb.216.1296234901169; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.58.223] ([212.183.128.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm2748486wbg.6.2011.01.28.09.14.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42F987.9050101@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:14:47 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101281626.p0SGQHUq091539@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101281626.p0SGQHUq091539@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:15:03 -0000 On 28/01/11 16:26, Robert Bonomi wrote: Robert, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I am not the only one who is interested in this argument. >>>>>>> elbbit wrote: >>>>>>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website >>>>>>>> at: http://www.tibble.net/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! >>>>>>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... >>>>>> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for >>>>>> being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming >>>>>> for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global >>>>>> self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we >>>>>> like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a >>>>>> hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going >>>>>> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is >>>>>> why I have been born. >>>>> >>>>> You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. >>>> >>>>> If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another >>>>> thread without changing the subject? >>>> With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent >>>> these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too >>>> important to worry about whether or not my particular message fits >>>> into a defined category. >>> >>> And you think it's OK to *STEAL* other people's resources to get >>> "your" message out, apparently. >> Hmm. Stealing. Taking without consent. Consent from whom? The network >> operator? According to the Debian website: "There are many world-open >> mailing lists, meaning anyone can read everything that is posted, and >> participate in the discussions. Everyone is encouraged..." - Under the >> heading Introduction: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > Yes, *STEALING*. When you 'hijack' the resources the mailing-list owner/ > operator has provided _for_a_specific_purpose_, for somethin *unrelated* > to that purpose, you _are_ stealing. I would like to invite the mail list administrator to participate in this discussion (if desired) and clarify for all whether this argument is "OK." If it is not "OK," I request some clarification. >>> Doing what you did is *expressly* against The AUP of your hosting >>> services provider, Webfusion, Ltd. >>> >> Yes. Words. Somehow, it is commonly accepted that just because >> something is written in words that it is "right." My emails challenge >> that. > > You _agreed_, _contractually_, to abide by those 'words' when you signed > up for services with that provider. They 'took your word' that you were > telling the truth. Do not be surprised if you find that they choose not > to do any further business with you when they find out you -lied- to them. In fact, I did not agree to that. The agreement is between me and another company who I obtain the service from. Obviously, the company you mention are the ones who provide the actual service, and the brand I used is clearly a middle-man. If they are in violation, I do not know about it. Still, this is irrelevant as it has nothing to do with my ability to post to these lists. >>> That said, you've _made_ your rules, and now *you8 get to live by them. >> I do not understand this statement. Please clarify. You didn't clarify. >>> Russian brides, pharmaceutcals, watches, lottery winnings, money >>> sharing, and whatever else people decide is 'too important' for >>> _you_ not to be informed of. >> You see, the people who raise awareness of their product or service are >> after one thing - to increase the number which is displayed on their ATM >> machine. I do not want money. I do not promote a service or product. In >> fact, I promote an IDEA - the notion that we can abandon money >> altogether. > > So What? If you believe you can decide what is 'appropriate' for for _my_ > mail box, others can do the same for *yours*. No, that's not what I am saying. Everyone has the right to control what appears in their mail box. Only by raising awareness of the possibility that a world without money can exist will it ever come to fruition, and by speaking or writing to others on this planet I am able to let them know they can still educate themselves. >>> But, then, you're a spammer. >> Try not to think of me as someone different. > > You _are_ different. *PROVEN* by your actions. I am the same as you. We are both sending mail to these lists, and we are discussing. Your actions are not that different from mine. > And someone I do -not_ care to associate with. Then don't reply to my emails. >> I am someone the same. > Demonstratably incorrect. Thank you for teaching me to expand the context of my sentences. I value when people teach me the error of my ways, and I do not see it as damaging to my ego. Instead, I feel enlightened, knowing full well that I am now aware of what I was doing wrong, and I can make a change inside of me. Simon -- elbbit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 17:17:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9561065674 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8477C8FC12 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2245B5C44 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:24:44 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D42F966.5080908@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:14:14 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:17:41 -0000 On 01/29/11 00:24, elbbit wrote: > On 28/01/11 12:28, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Thank you for taking the time to reply Robert. I value your opinion. > > >>>>>> elbbit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new >>>>>>> website at: http://www.tibble.net/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... >>>>>> >>>>> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded >>>>> for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop >>>>> spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the >>>>> importance of global self awareness is too important to worry >>>>> about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This >>>>> is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here >>>>> to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become >>>>> self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. >>>>> >>>> You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. >>>> >>> >>>> If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack >>>> another thread without changing the subject? >>>> >>> With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who >>> frequent these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is >>> too important to worry about whether or not my particular message >>> fits into a defined category. >>> >> And you think it's OK to *STEAL* other people's resources to get >> "your" message out, apparently. >> > Hmm. Stealing. Taking without consent. Consent from whom? The > network operator? According to the Debian website: > "There are many world-open mailing lists, meaning anyone can read > everything that is posted, and participate in the discussions. Everyone > is encouraged..." - Under the heading Introduction: > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > Hmm. I assumed the service was being offered to me. If I am wrong, I > would like more people to confirm if Robert is right. > Ok. For starters you quoted Debian's list on participation. Try quoting the right list according to your posting. I get your message- I do. Many here would not agree with it, and neither do I, though. If you want to preach, do it in the right forum. This forum is for people who want to resolve issues with a _free_ open source OS- not global opinions. Each forum is centered on a specific topic, find one that suits your message. This here will not get the response you desire, birds of a feather _will_ flock together- these here have a different feather than your message. Find your own flock... :) You preach respect for others view on time, money, etc; then respect this. > >> The people who run the mailing lists _pay_ for that equipment and >> > Pay... with money... which is a made up idea... > > >> network connectivity, and provide it to others for a specific use. >> > ...in this case, communication... which we are doing :-) > > >> You _are_ a thief, and as already stated "a bad liar, and a >> delusional dipshit." >> > My opinion is that according to the instruction provided to it, your > computer did all it can to send me your information. I did not steal > it. You gave it to me. You offered, you know - where you make a motion > towards me? > Money is an idea, so is temperature, distance, and luminosity. It is a resource, and is given a value. You think a lot like my wife, she believes in bartering and what not. I agree, but _any_ transaction is a transfer of _value_ - something you need to come to grips with here. Yes, there will come a time when money will lose its importance, and maybe even value, but this now, and it does carry a high importance to many _now_. They will not change their mind overnight- you need to respect this. The time for change is not yet. I doubt that money will disappear completely myself, but I do believe it will lessen in importance. What you fail to grasp in what people are trying to communicate here is that you are wasting resources, valuable resources in these times. This is a worthy project (so is Debian) providing a stable system that will be a catalyst towards the very change you are looking for. Everything has a value, monetary or not, and while you are like some others at one end of the extreme trying to distance yourself as far as you can from the other (corporations, etc), it is not sustainable in the long term. Resources will _always_ have a value, and with resources being very limited in these projects, they cannot afford to have you waste them. They would probably not object as strongly if you only addressed them individually, but you have raised ire collectively- and across 2 lists! Respect peoples wishes, and respect the value of resources- they are never infinite. Otherwise you are no better than what it is you despise. > >> Doing what you did is *expressly* against The AUP of your hosting >> services provider, Webfusion, Ltd. >> >> > Yes. Words. Somehow, it is commonly accepted that just because > something is written in words that it is "right." My emails challenge that. > > >> That said, you've _made_ your rules, and now *you8 get to live by >> them. >> > I do not understand this statement. Please clarify. > > >> Since _you_ believe it is "OK" to inflict your 'important' message on >> those you do not know, and who have _not_ consented to hear it, you >> =cannot= object if the 'world' decides to do the same to _you_ and >> your mailbox. >> > I agree, with everything that is me. But does this also not apply to > you, also? I think you have made an error by joining a "world-open > mailing list" if you are unable to tolerate other people's words. > The list/forum is on a specific topic, therefore the consent is in relation to that topic- not yours. > >> Russian brides, pharmaceutcals, watches, lottery winnings, money >> sharing, and whatever else people decide is 'too important' for >> _you_ not to be informed of. >> > You see, the people who raise awareness of their product or service are > after one thing - to increase the number which is displayed on their ATM > machine. I do not want money. I do not promote a service or product. > In fact, I promote an IDEA - the notion that we can abandon money > altogether. > > >> Annoying people who *run* mail-servers is a _really_ stupid thing to >> do. >> > Unfortunately, any one who is part of the growing movement realises that > ridicule, torture or even certain death are requirements of changing the > world. John F. Kennedy, one of your own president's, paid dearly simply > for saying some words. I say some words, and you too, want to kill me. > I forgive you for being so misguided. > > >> But, then, you're a spammer. >> > Try not to think of me as someone different. I am someone the same. I > have two arms, two legs, two eyes, I breathe air, I eat food, I use the > toilet, I have sex - I do all the normal thing you do too. You and I > are not as different you think. The only major difference between us > all is how we spend our time. Hence, I do not think of people in > "groups" or stereotypes. I see that some people choose to learn about > the world around them, and others do not. Some people take the word of > others to be the absolute truth - because they trust them. Who do you > trust? You certainly don't trust me - and with good cause. The idea I > suggest (abandoning money) is too big for your brain to comprehend... > not because you lack the processing ability to deal with it, but because > you refuse to think about a world without money. Try it. You and I are > probably never going to meet in all this random stuff which is going on > in the world. But just imagine... no money? Working in co-operation? > Just like open-source? How about an open-source world, and not just > limited to software? Can you imagine that? I know you can, we all can. > And some of us already do. > I refer to my comments earlier- if you wish to support the ideals, then don't waste its resources. Besides which you'd be preaching to the converted, wouldn't you? > >> And have just re-proven the validity of Rule #3, and Kruegers >> Corrolary thereunto, of the "Rules of Spam". >> > Rules. Laws. All pointless. You see, if a car is travelling a road > and it hits another car, the operator of the vehicle is blamed, and then > a public outcry occurs. The people standing up saying "this can not be > tolerated, something must be done" which is when they turn to someone > looking to lead them. Up steps a politician, who takes your authority > and says "hmm, yes, we make a rule that all cars must not exceed XX speed." > > The problem with rules and laws is that they are often ignored. Why > don't we just harness technology, using our abilities that we have TODAY > to just enable cars to have radar as part of their on board computers to > stop collisions occurring? Why don't we do this? Because of the money? > What, that made-up-idea again? Please! This is insanity! > Bit more to it than that, but anyway.. > >> see: >> > I removed the "d". Not too sure about the flying kids, looks a bit > porno-related to me. Hmm, I think it's biased too. This is just my > opinion though. > > >> So, I guess, it's not _all_ that surprising. >> > No, it's not all that surprising that we could have a different world. > The solution is that everyone must decide to stop using money and create > a better world. Simple. You have to choose to make it better. Don't > scared. The fact you include my address does not scare me. I'm not > scared of anyone. I am not living in fear (like you) I am living in > love - and I have nothing but love for all humans. I love you, and your > words, and every one, and if you wonder how this came to be, just start > searching Google for yourself. The answers are out there. > IF you have love and respect for others (and the planet- see your PS) then take heed and stop wasting resources. You don't take any stock in monetary value, so I will respect that and kindly point you to the real value of things. Up to this point I'd say you're the devil in disguise, if you really are of love then you will take my point and take appropriate action and in that way prove otherwise. But the resources of this project will not be wasted so that you can preach a message where it does not belong or wanted. It is not up to you to create change, and you never will. It takes time, and people are driven to change when they are ready. It is now up to you to decide which side you are on. I now digress a little and refer to an earlier post of yours about there being only black and white. Allow me to debunk your theory here and now- in love even :) Grey exists everywhere. There is no simple black and white, that was merely enough to get us to the point of understanding logic. The mathematician Lotfi Zadeh was given the inspiration for "fuzzy logic" (or greyness), and was tormented and ridiculed by his colleagues until he finally died. It took off in places where science wasn't so tied down to fanaticism, and in engineering. Finally, after Zadeh had died a bright musical mathematical prodigy tore down the fanaticism broke open the closed minds by proving that all their 'current' theories were actually contained within fuzzy logic. It encompassed them all. You can't accurately do anything without grey, there is no on off except in a light (and even that is debatable). Describe how fish swim in a school, or birds flock- you can't with just binary logic. Nothing worth doing with computers these days use _just_ binary logic. Life is indescribable without shades of grey. Even the recognised "father of logic", Aristotle, who was given the inspiration for logic realised and alluded to the fact that there had to be more than just yes/no, black/white in logic. Incidentally it is corporations and governments that wish for a yes/no black/white society. It boxes things up to make it easier for them to control things. The very society you wish to change. With that I will bid you adeiu. Don't bother attempting to contact via the list if you have further contentions to what I have written. > How are you going to spend your time from now on? > > With the kindest of regards from, > > Simon Tibble > 74 Park Street > Mountain Ash > CF45 3YL > GREAT BRITAIN > EUROPE > THE PLANET EARTH > THE MILKY WAY > THE UNIVERSE > > ^^^ Don't you see .... we share this planet. Let's work together to > make it a better place :-) > > >> >> >> >> email: simon@tibble.net >> >> Domain name: TIBBLE.NET >> >> Registrant: Simon Tibble 74 Park Street Penrhiwceiber Mountain Ash, >> Rhondda Cynon Taff CF45 3YL GB 07767650385 Fax: 07767650385 >> >> Registration Service Provider: services@123-reg.co.uk 08712309525 >> >> >> >> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 17:27:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C898106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447BD8FC16 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:27:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so1207729vws.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:27:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.28.149 with SMTP id m21mr1134787qcc.203.1296235655492; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.102.19 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:27:35 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.175.76] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:27:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:27:38 -0000 Hello list, are there any emulators out there that can run the non-x86 versions of FreeBSD on a FreeBSD/i386 or FreeBSD/amd64 host? I'm especially interested in trying FreeBSD/sparc64 port, but I'd also like to test the FreeBSD/powerpc and the FreeBSD/arm ports on an emulator, before seeking real hardware. Oh, and btw, what kind of affordable SPARC-based desktops with newish SPARC processors (i.e. above UltraSparc IIIi) would you recommend for testing? I've read this page: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/sparc.html but I'm at a loss as to what vendor, model etc. to get. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 18:27:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35CC1065670 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EDD8FC1A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0SIRfh6074849; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:27:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p0SIRfkJ074846; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:27:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:27:41 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: William Bulley In-Reply-To: <20110128165934.GA72065@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: References: <20110128165934.GA72065@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:27:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: David Demelier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:27:43 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, William Bulley wrote: > > So something is clearly wrong here. The /var/db/ports/poppler/OPTIONS > file had: > > WITHOUT_CAIRO=yes > > inside, so I changed that to WITH_CAIRO=yes and repeated the above steps. > > The file /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc is now there! The right way to do that is # cd /usr/ports/graphics/poppler # make config You can reset the options with "make rmconfig". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 18:34:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7361065697 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (host-120.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9C68FC16 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p0SIhLTU092639; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:43:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:43:21 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201101281843.p0SIhLTU092639@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:34:29 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 28 11:37:00 2011 > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:27:35 +0100 > From: "C. P. Ghost" > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports? > > Hello list, > > are there any emulators out there that can run the non-x86 versions of > FreeBSD on a FreeBSD/i386 or FreeBSD/amd64 host? Such things, by definition, are a 'simulator', not an 'emulator'. They exist, they are *pricey* (think "5 figures", left of the decimal point) and they are =SLOW= (very, VERY slow!) compared to the real hardware. > I'm especially interested in trying FreeBSD/sparc64 port, but I'd also > like to test the FreeBSD/powerpc and the FreeBSD/arm ports on an > emulator, before seeking real hardware. Pick up some low-end used hardware, it's _lots_ cheaper, and will give you a better feel for how it works. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 18:35:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D31065675 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@mingrone.org) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7988D8FC18 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1264575gxk.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:35:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.95.17 with SMTP id o17mr5921763yhf.10.1296237782837; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.17 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:03:02 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [24.138.79.206] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:03:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joseph Mingrone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Exiting Xorg / fluxbox causes system to freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:35:56 -0000 Hello, All is working well with the latest hald, dbus, Xorg and fluxbox compiled from ports. I'm not using a configuration file for Xorg and my /var/log/Xorg.0.log can be found here: http://gly.ath.cx/misc/Xorg.0.log. Some lines from the log file that look suspicious to me are: drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri! 2: No such file or directory Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or directory drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or directory drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) drmOpenDevice: Open failed Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Joey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 18:56:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D5C1065670 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B948FC0C for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so1765023ewy.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:56:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.25.70 with SMTP id y46mr4115471eey.49.1296241007816; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.47.66 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:56:47 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.198] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:56:47 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:56:50 -0000 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > Hello list, > > are there any emulators out there that can run the non-x86 versions of FreeBSD > on a FreeBSD/i386 or FreeBSD/amd64 host? > > I'm especially interested in trying FreeBSD/sparc64 port, but I'd also like to > test the FreeBSD/powerpc and the FreeBSD/arm ports on an emulator, before > seeking real hardware. QEMU claims PowerPC and ARM emulation support, but I don't know if it's good enough to run FreeBSD. PearPC is another PowerPC emulator, but it was mainly targeted at running MacOS and the project appears to have been stagnant since 2005. It depends a bit on what you're trying to determine. If you're looking to test stability or performance, the results you get from an emulator are unlikely to have any real comparison to what you get on real hardware. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 19:07:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EFC106566C for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A60A98FC12 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13381 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2011 19:07:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2011 19:07:32 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SICAiHNcD+eT for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:07:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 13368 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2011 19:07:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 28 Jan 2011 19:07:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4D43129B.1090703@blakemfg.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:01:47 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091021) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D41BDF6.5080904@blakemfg.com> <4D421B95.1070909@blakemfg.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wine questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:07:34 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: >>> >> I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork >> stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. >> I believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters >> and the file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer >> directly or otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask >> Xeltek if they will give a refund if I can't get the unit working in >> a reasonable time. If it doesn't work I would otherwise be out of >> $1500. I will not use Windows. > > There's a downloadable version of the software on the site. If that > works acceptably, the final hurdle would be whether it can communicate > with the programmer by USB. The site says it's USB 2.0 and installs > drivers on Windows, which doesn't bode well for the Wine/FreeBSD > setup. It may work, although you have to expect that any support call > will blame problems on the non-standard setup. > > It might be easier to start with open software and choose a programmer > that is supported by it. For instance, devel/avrdude supports some > faster programmers. Depends on what you need. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Hi Warren, I will try installing the Xeltek software as you suggest and go from there. If I get it to work ok I will post what I did. I use 680x0 and 8051 so the avr program isn't useful at this time. I need to program SPLDs and flash. Best regards, Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 19:17:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5751065673 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FD68FC0A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3462857iwn.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.173.6 with SMTP id p6mr4317160icz.183.1296242222777; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:17:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.202 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:16:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D430343.4040700@gmail.com> References: <201101281615.p0SGFjEw091476@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4D42ED28.5000602@gmail.com> <4D430343.4040700@gmail.com> From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 19:17:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C54E1065696 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19F48FC17 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP135 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:05:14 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [71.70.216.68] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([71.70.216.68]) by BLU0-SMTP135.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:05:13 -0800 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7AFE0E54824 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:05:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:05:11 -0500 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2011 19:05:14.0170 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B3241A0:01CBBF1E] Subject: PCRE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:17:17 -0000 I have used Regexbuddy successfully under Windows. Is there a comparable tool available in the ports system? I have not been able to locate one. Thanks! -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 19:24:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41E91065672 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865AE8FC13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so3617436qwj.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.184.7 with SMTP id ci7mr1223154qcb.241.1296242686914; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.102.19 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:24:46 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.175.76] In-Reply-To: <201101281843.p0SIhLTU092639@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201101281843.p0SIhLTU092639@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:24:49 -0000 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Robert Bonomi w= rote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =A0Fri Jan 28 11:37:00 2011 >> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:27:35 +0100 >> From: "C. P. Ghost" >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List >> Subject: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports? >> >> Hello list, >> >> are there any emulators out there that can run the non-x86 versions of >> FreeBSD on a FreeBSD/i386 or FreeBSD/amd64 host? > > Such things, by definition, are a 'simulator', not an 'emulator'. =A0They > exist, they are *pricey* (think "5 figures", left of the decimal point) > and they are =3DSLOW=3D (very, VERY slow!) compared to the real hardware. Okay, let it be a simulator then. ;) I don't care that they're slow (I know how emulators work under the hood). As I've used Bochs on SPARC back then to run x86 OS, it was slow too, but that didn't matter either. The only multiplatform simulators I've seen right now belong to the qemu family: /usr/local/bin/qemu /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-mipsel /usr/local/bin/qemu-img /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-ppc /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-arm /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-ppc64 /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-cris /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-ppcemb /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-m68k /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-sh4 /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-microblaze /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-sh4eb /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-mips /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-sparc /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-mips64 /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-sparc64 /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-mips64el /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 But they don't emulate enough of a real system to run the FreeBSD ports, AFAICT. That's why I'm asking for other (more specialized?) emulators/simulators. >> I'm especially interested in trying FreeBSD/sparc64 port, but I'd also >> like to test the FreeBSD/powerpc and the FreeBSD/arm ports on an >> emulator, before seeking real hardware. > > Pick up some low-end used hardware, it's _lots_ cheaper, and will give > you a better feel for how it works. Yep, that's always an option. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 19:34:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856FD106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BFA8FC14 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so3627427qwj.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:34:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.81.206 with SMTP id y14mr3106192qck.127.1296243274737; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.102.19 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:34:34 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.175.76] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:34:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: David Brodbeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Emulators to test non-x86 FreeBSD ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:34:36 -0000 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:56 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> are there any emulators out there that can run the non-x86 versions of F= reeBSD >> on a FreeBSD/i386 or FreeBSD/amd64 host? >> >> I'm especially interested in trying FreeBSD/sparc64 port, but I'd also l= ike to >> test the FreeBSD/powerpc and the FreeBSD/arm ports on an emulator, befor= e >> seeking real hardware. > > QEMU claims PowerPC and ARM emulation support, but I don't know if > it's good enough to run FreeBSD. =A0PearPC is another PowerPC emulator, > but it was mainly targeted at running MacOS and the project appears to > have been stagnant since 2005. I'll check it out, thanks. > It depends a bit on what you're trying to determine. =A0If you're > looking to test stability or performance, the results you get from an > emulator are unlikely to have any real comparison to what you get on > real hardware. Basically, I'm interested in assembly language programming on those platforms. So if they ran in an emulator, that would be ideal, but I wouldn= 't mind a couple of real hardware boxes if there's no software alternative. BTW, have you guys any experience with emulators/gxemul? It doesn't cover sparc but claims to implement a complete arm and powerpc machine, at least for the corresponding netbsd ports. Thanks, -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 21:18:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C447106566B; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahman.linux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032168FC12; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so3720479qwj.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:18:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JYSFXbivtjAeVpWEcNPVqGg2KlZybVu5G3AYQtLPp1U=; b=OsHNM3Q97j5sOZ4USphUaLmgTkXQjm/E2V4YJv7BkWs4J9GlSFx92S+qpLkCDe6ayQ ZX6++AWT2j4oNGsLZv9tjnejWYr/nZpw/O7BcF087ops+P7GJsPKc7dRwrFiOg4u5OZ8 CaxU1e0hwlB6AJokC/LUGTMi+UtkGopt3uoDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=E3H1y78MKoNlP0U3ijsXNxzo3rWtAX3NFveL6kODOFDdTfQT5KMVm/rBXMjxKrUYBE ti6DTPpqKLsc7jZVd04/aA3cn4e1XnTXjeqbSr32O0BuLz9mUEO9wSZJ11ZDjoX80AIj 4yyGW/7MF6m1g95zN1B+rubyM0Ti+VvrPAA+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.37.20 with SMTP id v20mr3267390qad.216.1296249511925; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.195.137 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:18:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:48:31 +0330 Message-ID: From: Bahman Kahinpour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Instructions on Installing HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD 8 (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:18:33 -0000 After going through a hard time on installing HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD 8.1, I decided to write this. *** Installing HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD 8.1 *** Note: HPLIP 3.10.9 doesn't work for this printer. ** PART ONE: Disable the fake CD-ROM feature ** The printer has a built-in fake CD-ROM feature which prevents it from working correctly on non-Windows PCs. Once it is connected to a Windows PC, a CD-ROM appears containing Windows drivers. In order for HP LaserJet P1102 to work correctly on a FreeBSD PC, you must disable this feature. 1.Connect the printer to a Windows PC. (Unfortunately you have to connect it to a Windows PC which is too bad.) 2.Insert the original driver CD. (The physical CD-ROM that ships with the product, NOT THIS FAKE CD-ROM). 3.Run SIUtility.exe or SIUtility64.exe from UTIL folder to disable this fake CD feature. (It's called =E2=80=9CHP Smart Install=E2=80=9D Now, life becomes easier. Connect your HP LaserJet P1102 to your FreeBSD PC. Printer should be recognized and /dev/ulpt0 appears. ** PART TWO: Install CUPS and FOOMATIC-FILTERS ** 1.Update your Ports Collection tree. 2.Install Common Unix Printing System (CUPS). # cd /usr/ports/print/cups # make install clean 3.Add cupsd_enable=3D=E2=80=9DYES=E2=80=9D to /etc/rc.conf # ee /etc/rc.conf 4.Start CUPS now. (You do not need to restart your FreeBSD) # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd start 4.Install Foomatic Filters. # cd /usr/ports/print/foomatic-filters # make install clean ** PART THREE: Install FOO2ZJS from FOO2ZJS.RKKDA.COM ** foo2zjs in the Ports Collection is a little old and it does not work with HP LaserJet P1102. (Checked Jan 29,2011) Go to foo2zjs.rkkda.com and download http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz. # cd ~ # wget http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz # gzip -dc foo2zjs.tar.gz | tar -xvf - # cd foo2zjs # gmake # gmake install # gmake install-hotplug # ./freebsd-install Please note that you do not need any firmware download for this printer. (Any of these ./getweb stuff) Now restart the CUPS. # gmake cups Now, make sure that your printer is recognized on your FreeBSD system. Check dmesg and verify that printer is recognized. Make sure that /dev/ulpt0 exists. Plug out your printer and plug it in again. (In order for the permission in the devfs to be correct. They should be writable for the printer nodes in the /dev) Now, open your browser and goto http://localhost:631. Click on the Administration and Add Printer. Your printer should be recognized and also there is a special filter (driver) for that in the next pages. Use /dev/ulpt0 as the URI. Good Luck Bahman Kahinpour From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 21:31:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7A91065672; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC418FC18; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A523CF2D; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:31:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p0SLVis9003575; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:31:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:31:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bahman Kahinpour Message-Id: <20110128223143.64cc7f2f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Instructions on Installing HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD 8 (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:31:47 -0000 Allow me a little sidenote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:48:31 +0330, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > ** PART THREE: Install FOO2ZJS from FOO2ZJS.RKKDA.COM ** > > foo2zjs in the Ports Collection is a little old and it does not work > with HP LaserJet P1102. (Checked Jan 29,2011) Go to foo2zjs.rkkda.com > and download http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz. > > # cd ~ The ~ is not needed. The command "cd" without any parameters will bring you to your home directory. For more typing, use "cd $HOME". :-) And of course: > The printer has a built-in fake CD-ROM feature which prevents it from > working correctly on non-Windows PCs. Once it is connected to a > Windows PC, a CD-ROM appears containing Windows drivers. In order for > HP LaserJet P1102 to work correctly on a FreeBSD PC, you must disable > this feature. Correct: You must work around this bug (it's not a feature). :-) > 1.Connect the printer to a Windows PC. (Unfortunately you have to > connect it to a Windows PC which is too bad.) This would be reason enough for me to kick the thing out of the window. :-) > 2.Insert the original driver CD. (The physical CD-ROM that ships with > the product, NOT THIS FAKE CD-ROM). > 3.Run SIUtility.exe or SIUtility64.exe from UTIL folder to disable > this fake CD feature. (It's called “HP Smart Install” Yeah, very smart. Deliver incompatible (defective!) stuff and require a proprietary program for an obscure OS imitation to fix the thing... refer to "kick out of the window" for further proceeding. :-) > Plug out your printer and plug it in again. (In order for the > permission in the devfs to be correct. They should be writable for the > printer nodes in the /dev) A more technical note, or question: If I remember correctly, CUPS introduces a "cups" or "usb" group to the system. Did you check if it is needed to work with that group in order to get the required permissions for the ulpt device? I will definitely NOT buy this printer, but good to know that it is at least possible (with hard work not common to UNIX operations) to make it work. Thank you for your little HOWTO, I will keep it in mind - and hope I *never* will have to deal with such a "printer". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 21:47:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281C7106566B; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A2B8FC08; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22E12F.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.225.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0SLlq3w025463; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:47:53 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0SLlpXR025955; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:47:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0SLlfNG019849; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:47:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201101282147.p0SLlfNG019849@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Bahman Kahinpour From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:48:31 +0330." Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:47:41 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Instructions on Installing HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD 8 (solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:47:55 -0000 Bahman Kahinpour wrote: > After going through a hard time on installing HP LaserJet P1102 on > FreeBSD 8.1, I decided to write this. > > *** Installing HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD 8.1 *** Nice, Well done for documenting :-) I dont have such a printer myself, but seems valuable, probably applies to similar printers too). Text should not just rot as mail hard to find in the archive, but be submitted with send-pr. But to which section ? For ports ? for print/cups/files/README.something ? Or more likely for www ? for under http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing.html Or in ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-advanced.html Please run send-pr so it gets saved somewhere :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 22:28:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC067106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from web161619.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (web161619.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.211.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 620628FC08 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 41292 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jan 2011 22:28:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296253689; bh=bebFBzT5e+uZiPRWW4PrHyhTrx36D6Gw2sl10J5EA68=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Tcm+UFOEh/jZIci3075kUfVzM8iJ4F3yqpKNE0fEI57K4jMvcq5c5cExNcHt6WwZHWOdoAtqOScC36KwIRkEnZxWdpRdsBB4z2jP5X3sGPg6ZJzB3egjCU0ynhuEv+1IlghxxPKYh5UGPrshCC89gY4e0+J+ESaz6oEQXs7Ig+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ewVEZPh6mccIcpqCL39c8sZYGGKebJ5qhqcoia9VOs8flpaQJAUrvp521cV81+6hC5p5do/6aLMlWNsoW5Bvzvc1izSPg6AMW1F8xkOeDV04Lcr6AZHskuQcGHOhoPkrHzQnz0bYqMY+zh6SnMvBx0P3YRJV9NPuQ1pUXP7A/RI=; Message-ID: <741360.40372.qm@web161619.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1zLOQi4VM1nOLhcVLZ6dz9dRs4VFXVI2JGlef6W2BDYLjZ3 GICSEB78dYwn86qdQLwpVLtu2JiqzjHLeB8Dy4XrY0IwGjhLTh0jF0dzTMGA HfEmuKRPK4VuQZOKUJMJzgL3JIAeZqpTZKLgYofyMBDzqBEznuLpowNtZPUH V4qRKmY5FlGM_ygw6y0hy1cItll1mRsg55RPfePfGMIZ2UW2GpgvTXBy.2_M YQjHTABfBmVgkIFZAQ3oTGJUT42Q7ZB.EKeUbLhS7OIBiKoZlZrtB1YlXFhT udHqe3w-- Received: from [97.115.228.6] by web161619.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:28:09 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:28:09 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: missing us.dvorakr.kbd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:28:10 -0000 us.dvorakr.kbd is missing from /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/ I found one on the web; but wonder if it's been fixed. $ uname -a FreeBSD carmen.opera 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #2: Wed Oct 13 20:48:24 MST 2010 neshort@carmen:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CARMEN amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 22:45:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A1F106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543B08FC08 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so1842659ewy.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:45:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.11.147 with SMTP id 19mr4366841eex.14.1296254709177; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.47.66 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:45:09 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.222] In-Reply-To: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> References: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:45:09 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Could any port be sucking up bandwidth? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:45:10 -0000 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Before the 11th of January I was streaming both audio and video > streams with little to zero wait time. =A0In other words, I could > stream about 50 minutes of audio with only a second or two of pause > time delay [[AKA congestion]]. =A0After that date there was a steep > decline in streaming performance and I went at upgrading my server > with a vengeance to see if that fixed things. =A0Upgrading my 700 > ports only led to other things breaking. =A0I am wondering if anyone > else in North America has a DSL connection and has seen the kind of > degradation in performance after doing (something) to their FreeBSD > servers. > > I have around 1Mb down and 864Kb up ... according to the telco. > Any ideas will be much appreciated. iftop will tell you how much bandwidth you're actually consuming, to what hosts, and on what ports. This may help you narrow down the problem, if there is in fact something using it up. You may want to try one of the "internet speed test" sites (e.g., speedtest.net) to see if you're actually getting the bandwidth you think you should be getting. I had a similar problem and quickly found my DSL upstream bandwidth had dropped by a third. After some calls to the service provider I was able to get it resolved. You may also want to see if your streaming video site changed something. The trend is to upgrade to higher-bandwidth streams for the benefit of people who have fast cable modem connections, but it can lead to a lot of buffering delays for us DSL customers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 00:50:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFD31065674 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owens@netptc.net) Received: from smtp09.netptc.net (smtp09.netptc.net [209.234.196.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CB98FC17 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from netptc.net (unverified [209.234.196.22]) by mail.netptc.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 9.0.1) with SMTP id ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:38:02 -0800 Message-ID: <380-2201116290382575@netptc.net> X-Priority: 3 From: owens@netptc.net To: elbbit@gmail.com, Ggatten@waddell.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:38:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:50:11 -0000 > > > >---- Original Message ---- >From: elbbit@gmail=2Ecom >To: Ggatten@waddell=2Ecom >Subject: Re: Spam Rules, per argument (Re: Any package for surveys=3F) >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:43:12 +0000 > >>On 28/01/11 16:07, Gary Gatten wrote: >>> >>Oh dear=2E >> >>> OMFG=2E=2E=2E how much longer are "we" going to keep commenting on th= is=20 >>> worthless thread=3F >>Hmm=2E Worthless=2E=2E=2E without value=2E=2E=2E an entity lacking sub= stance=2E=20 >Hmm=2E >>This thread was started by me=2E Now let me see, yes, I still have my >>arms and legs=2E Which must logically mean I have substance=2E And I >have >>spent my time since birth learning about the world around me and >>embracing it=2E From all the information I have learnt about life and >>other people, I believe I have substance=2E And, as a result, my >>creations (my emails) are born from that substance=2E I forgive you=2E= >> >>> And now the debian list too=3F That's great=2E=2E=2E >>I think you underestimate the size of the problem I am highlighting: >>forgetting money=2E >> >>> Dear Hijacker: You are the superior one, all others are inferior=2E >>You are incorrect=2E I am the same as everyone else, just as you are=2E= >> >>> You are right, all others are wrong=2E >>Try not to see things as a case of right or wrong=2E Instead, try to >>realise the truth: people spend their time differently=2E Your brain >is >>only as reliable as the information you have fed into it, and based >on >>that information, you make decisions=2E >> >>> Please go away=2E >>You may succeed in silencing me as an individual, but you will not >>silence the growing Zeitgeist movement which is happening all around >us=2E >> >>> Perhaps preach your "wisdom" to a more receptive audience, >>I think some people on these lists are questioning this thread, >maybe >>even doing their own Google searches to learn for themselves=2E These >are >>the people who will embrace the new world without money, whilst >others >>who close their minds and only accept the old will be left behind=2E=20= >Just >>as the horse gave way to the motor car, so will money be left >behind=2E >> >>> such as your stuffed toy animals=2E >>I don't own any, though my woman has a few=2E It's a girl thing I >think=2E >> >>> You know, the ones you keep in your Mommies basement where you >live=3F >>I live in my own house, I eat my own food and I am very happy with >my >>life=2E Making assumptions is not a reliable way to make decisions >and >>learn new information=2E >> >>> Thank you for enlightening all of us with your superior wisdom=2E >>I am not superior=2E I have spent my time differently=2E >> >>> Have a great life=2E >>I already have a great life, and together, we could make it even >better=2E >> >>> "This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended >recipient >>> and may contain information that is privileged and/or >confidential=2E >>> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified >that >>> any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this >email >>> and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited=2E If you have=20= >>> received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender >>> by return email and delete this email from your system=2E" >> ^^^ How can I delete your words from the internal memory in my >brain, >>once I have read them=3F >> >>Simon >> >> >>--=20 >> >>elbbit >> I too am tired of this tripe=2E However, in a world without money, how do you pay your ISP=3F L >> >>--=20 >>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists=2Edebian=2Eorg=20 >>with a subject of "unsubscribe"=2E Trouble=3F Contact >listmaster@lists=2Edebian=2Eorg >>Archive: http://lists=2Edebian=2Eorg/4D42F220=2E1050900@gmail=2Ecom >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 02:42:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C618106564A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3641A8FC14 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.186]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163145C44 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:49:46 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D437DD6.4030202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:39:18 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PF firewall rules and documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:42:42 -0000 I spent some time playing with pf and pf.conf, and followed the directions in the handbook. It redirected me to the openbsd site for pf.conf, and recommended it as the most comprehensive documentation for pf. Firstly, I didn't find that. I had to translate the instructions into the current version used in FreeBSD, OpenBSD appears to be further advanced than this based on the current docs. Secondly, some of the rules don't appear to be following. From my understanding based on the documentation in the handbook and on the site pf is default allowing traffic. So explicit rules to block should be set first and then rules set to allow what is needed in. Some assumptions are made in the rules by the interpreter, so according to OpenBSD one can (even in the older versions) simply state block and it is interpreted as 'block on $interfaces all'. This turned out to not be the case. I know this has come up before, but I think it might be time to document pf.conf properly. It seems to be a bit of security risk not to. Users may be mistaken in their belief of their security on the network using pf, and may be less likely to trust again when it breaks. Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 03:55:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576A1106566B for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED69E8FC0A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0T3t8E5023689; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:55:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p0T3t8R3023688; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:55:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:55:08 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-ID: <20110129035507.GA23613@thought.org> References: <20110126064936.GA7273@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Could any port be sucking up bandwidth? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:55:15 -0000 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 01:30:07PM +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > > > Before the 11th of January I was streaming both audio and video > > streams with little to zero wait time. In other words, I could > > stream about 50 minutes of audio with only a second or two of pause > > time delay [[AKA congestion]]. > > Try sockstat(1) and watch for other processes' connections. > > And remember: sometimes, it's the network provider doing > traffic shaping, i.e. throttling your line based on the kind of > traffic you're generating. > > -cpghost. tHe problem with streams turned out to NOT have anything to do with software. Not in the FBSD ports, not in the Ubuntu packages. I found a clue via google; it worked. The problem was that my modem/router needed to be reset to its factory defaults. iftop sometimes stalled for several moments--enough to cause streams to timeout if they did, in fact, get started. Now I can connect even to bbc4 in a couple seconds instead of a minutes. If anybody else has had trouble connected to distant sites, I suggest you check your routers. Might find that you get much better response times. --gary > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 04:42:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3765106564A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 04:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net) Received: from smtp2.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8794A8FC0A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 04:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27926 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2011 20:15:23 -0800 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 27922, pid: 27923, t: 0.1932s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp2.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=13.5 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3mlRQx_bzFAA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=nseUUMFd9aSthF4D4WAA:9 a=KxKeGxQCJLjHQdRYSVjgtc1TnhcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpAS2.mc.surewest.net) (66.60.130.4) by smtp2 with SMTP; 28 Jan 2011 20:15:23 -0800 Received: (qmail 10094 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2011 20:38:03 -0800 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 10090, pid: 10091, t: 0.1071s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb Received: from unknown (HELO ms5.mc.surewest.net) (64.30.98.104) by smtpAS2 with SMTP; 28 Jan 2011 20:38:03 -0800 Received: (from ms5.mc.surewest.net [192.168.60.20]) by ms5.mc.surewest.net (MOS 4.1.8-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id BBC86827 (AUTH leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:15:23 -0800 (PST) From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 4.1.8-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20110128201523.BBC86827@ms5.mc.surewest.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:15:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: 8.1-release Western Digital My Book Mirror Edition u.s.b. 2.0 drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 04:42:05 -0000 Good evening, dear FreeBSD enthusiast. I seem to be flummoxed by the FreeBSD website. I am trying to discover the list of supported devices for 8.1-release, which I know exists, but I do not seem to be able to find. In particular, does this version of FreeBSD support a Western Digital My Book Mirror Edition u.s.b. 2.0 external hard drive? It is a RAID-1 drive, although I have not been able to determine if the RAID is created in software or hardware. If 8.1-release does not support this device, what is the most similar u.s.b. RAID drive that it does support, if any? Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated. Thank you in advance. L e e O l i v e S h a c k e l f o r d AT S u r e W e s t DOT n e t. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 05:08:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE6D106564A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EF98FC0A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shell.eskimo.com (root@shell.eskimo.com [204.122.16.72]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0T58XiY014843 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:08:33 -0800 Received: from shell.eskimo.com (joji@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0T58boL026647 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:08:37 -0800 Received: (from joji@localhost) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.12.10/Submit) id p0T58aSe026646 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:08:36 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:08:36 -0800 From: Joseph Olatt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110129050836.GA26596@shell.eskimo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: /usr/ports/x11-wm/awesome problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:08:38 -0000 Hi, Anybody on the list having recent problems with the awesome window manager? I get the following error when I try to run awesome: W: awesome: image_new_from_file:288: cannot load image /usr/local/share/awesome/icons/awesome16.png: unknown error, that's really bad /usr/local/share/awesome/lib/awful/menu.lua:221: attempt to compare number with nil W: awesome: image_new_from_file:288: cannot load image /usr/local/share/awesome/icons/awesome16.png: unknown error, that's really bad /usr/local/share/awesome/lib/awful/menu.lua:221: attempt to compare number with nil /usr/local/share/awesome/icons/awesome16.png exists, is readable and can be displayed fine with display(1). I did csup the ports tree and recompiled both awesome and imlib2, but did not succeed. The entire output of startx is: X.Org X Server 1.7.5 Release Date: 2010-02-16 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD mint 8.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Jan 21 05:05:00 CST 2011 root@mint:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MINT i386 Build Date: 27 January 2011 07:56:40PM Current version of pixman: 0.18.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jan 28 21:43:23 2011 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) NTSC XRANDR name: VGA-0 Connector: VGA CRT1: INTERNAL_DAC1 DDC reg: 0x60 XRANDR name: DVI-0 Connector: DVI-D DFP1: INTERNAL_TMDS1 DDC reg: 0x64 XRANDR name: LVDS Connector: LVDS LCD1: INTERNAL_LVDS DDC reg: 0x6c XRANDR name: S-video Connector: S-video TV1: INTERNAL_DAC2 DDC reg: 0x0 finished output detect: 0 finished output detect: 1 finished output detect: 2 finished output detect: 3 finished all detect Entering TV Save Save TV timing tables saveTimingTables: reading timing tables TV Save done disable primary dac disable FP1 disable TV init memmap init common init crtc1 init pll1 restore memmap restore common restore crtc1 restore pll1 set RMX set LVDS enable LVDS disable primary dac disable FP1 disable TV record: RECORD extension enabled at configure time. record: This extension is known to be broken, disabling extension now.. record: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20500 W: awesome: image_new_from_file:288: cannot load image /usr/local/share/awesome/icons/awesome16.png: unknown error, that's really bad /usr/local/share/awesome/lib/awful/menu.lua:221: attempt to compare number with nil W: awesome: image_new_from_file:288: cannot load image /usr/local/share/awesome/icons/awesome16.png: unknown error, that's really bad /usr/local/share/awesome/lib/awful/menu.lua:221: attempt to compare number with nil E: awesome: main:505: couldn't find any rc file waiting for X server to shut down xmessage: not found xmessage: not found finished PLL2 finished PLL1 Entering Restore TV Restore TV PLL Restore TVHV Restore TV Restarts Restore Timing Tables Restore TV standard Leaving Restore TV From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 05:34:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1F6106566B for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947B18FC0C for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so4218977fxm.13 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:34:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KxiUViinwkjifzAUhy8hQU0kpzkKpE8yVzXG/RUBEj4=; b=oTN/BXse8VCXNiHE/A0qrhTsyuMLlOabgi2S0C8y2FTVVDvFfA/jPVEn9CMNi/u+Tb iE50SfYDddJ8vKlLsYb/XNbMtdP8xLITgaVcvEwfGF7YAEqktDf3H9h/jXBKPMLWAA49 o3lE2fpz+U6O4qbHiVtpsIbxSl2nw2ml8oa9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NsulAehKieWgTlWMNy37VcngGmVJ5IOz9sJ/GS83hNE0aksiF0RHZssYBkL7FmDZZY uHzi0OzlTKOWaAkX0Ec2dgxWvlif6qP6BDOlBKTDAJ5eONrMgtDJpjKSK8DCkit0erZV 19H1JLtu1ABzCAJId3mLaelpwNG/TP1M+hHnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.87.5 with SMTP id u5mr1503777fal.48.1296279292228; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.101.132 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 21:34:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110128201523.BBC86827@ms5.mc.surewest.net> References: <20110128201523.BBC86827@ms5.mc.surewest.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1-release Western Digital My Book Mirror Edition u.s.b. 2.0 drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:34:54 -0000 On 28 January 2011 23:15, wrote: >=A0I am trying to discover the list of supported devices for 8.1-release, > which I know exists, but I do not seem to be able to find. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/hardware.html > In particular, does this version of FreeBSD support a Western Digital > My Book Mirror Edition u.s.b. 2.0 external hard drive? I doubt an exhaustive list of USB wazzits, frobdars, & dimsum will ever be written even for Winders or Linus, let alone FBSD. Seeing as how the RAID controller, whether hard or soft, is going to be behind a USB adapter, I doubt it's going to be visible as anything but a pass(4) & a da(4), though I doubt any bundled "RAID management software" for that device does much more than check for grotty platters & forcibly sync the drives (even to their detriment) if even that. Also, does it have a battery to run on if it needs to finish syncing after it's been unplugged? --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 09:21:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73405106566B for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309128FC08 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so1495699qyk.13 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:21:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jybSipb+T0hQN/gOPf4b0zSFailA8KGrYqSIhdJZdds=; b=WKyYnraJlrHwsIEGvMfA0v5qvY8+mKg7ITd3cW2dZKt1ylAK1fJpfeNwL9Mezfx5rw uUDx5aUuSnO66pzcHAmXHYtOHFBtlKYAhpJdEBOTPUOxmeVIdz/4sENFzDz5mCly1LYh C+XNtkvDptmLLtam9AT0lgtS1bCkyAntpb+0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=aoRJfeAX4Jyi6AsxtmKwyRNj3xVOOMJ0RwiTYwQUEu/B5wFWwB+FD00zVOE2c6E/jr f9bBnAXG0D1XaMkG7NYx6lG0KZpYV/ePLC0RaMR2MIA+ujmrgZytqVzCVnmoXjKdzea7 4r/Z75s0pMkO1y6lrPcZd5Y9ivK3WTfxc4UCY= Received: by 10.229.211.206 with SMTP id gp14mr3525490qcb.289.1296292770725; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:19:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:19:00 -0800 (PST) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:19:00 +0300 Message-ID: To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 8.2-RC Kernel build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:21:40 -0000 cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/jme/if_jme.c *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GW. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 09:49:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B880D1065672 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F08C8FC08 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so3981559qyk.13 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:49:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=yy268Ns/pGOY+gfmWUBNBFVNM5YcBIMZk94BH7B13Hw=; b=FFFQGxZvBBiIf8GcUN6OxcsKjC6TwmQWpwoLxcIWduCxDKjvruwRyYe2sfwoquwOeW u4949ussvAoP/4IFnjTsSf9ynXj8jjcx/+M7CE5Dj/l0anNbY0MeqXPQCrVaa22oq21L q9HtrpM0+gTK0z53dtBPJDsAEYR6GAh1cDnG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=atG87nVcOd+EjJ5x+jJcVPpZUGUFfEFClmELi7n2WEa123LNUv+c44y/FXWW0eM7Qu d7bIsUsyX5WJiEp9ikB3iRBBfXEc9bU+sXSxec6CasJL8P+WtCgxk1NQ/EeFtuQwcPli 88H8OeVKIdeZEihLJdGYWhhOzmTvMxabV3/VU= Received: by 10.229.89.78 with SMTP id d14mr3561354qcm.251.1296294580421; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:49:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:49:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <14688993@bb.ipt.ru> References: <14688993@bb.ipt.ru> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:49:10 +0300 Message-ID: To: Boris Samorodov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: 8.2-RC Kernel build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:49:41 -0000 On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:19:00 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes > -Wpointer-arith > > -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions > > -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL > > -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common > > -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param > > large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings > > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 > > -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror > > /usr/src/sys/dev/jme/if_jme.c > > *** Error code 1 > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GW. > > *** Error code 1 > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > It's always a good idea to show a command one used. And assuming you use > "-j X" the log is useless since the actual error was way earlier. Please, > remove the flag, add "-DNO_CLEAN" and show the command and a tail of > the output. > I always use `make kernel KERNCONF=MY_KERNEL`. No special flags. The whole output is here - http://62.8.64.102/~wash/kernel-20110129.log.txt -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 10:09:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154EB106566B for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C807B8FC17 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Pj78g-000AaN-Lh; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:30:38 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: Odhiambo Washington References: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:30:38 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Odhiambo Washington's message of "Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:19:00 +0300") Message-ID: <14688993@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: 8.2-RC Kernel build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:09:25 -0000 On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:19:00 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions > -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL > -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common > -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param > large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 > -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror > /usr/src/sys/dev/jme/if_jme.c > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GW. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. It's always a good idea to show a command one used. And assuming you use "-j X" the log is useless since the actual error was way earlier. Please, remove the flag, add "-DNO_CLEAN" and show the command and a tail of the output. > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Damn!! Yep. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 10:21:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C19106564A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE518FC08 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Pj7vQ-000Adq-69; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:21:00 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: Odhiambo Washington References: <14688993@bb.ipt.ru> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:20:59 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Odhiambo Washington's message of "Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:49:10 +0300") Message-ID: <48605972@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: 8.2-RC Kernel build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:21:01 -0000 On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:49:10 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:19:00 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > > cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes > > -Wpointer-arith > > > -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions > > > -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL > > > -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common > > > -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param > > > large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings > > > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 > > > -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/jme/if_jme.c > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GW. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > It's always a good idea to show a command one used. And assuming you use > > "-j X" the log is useless since the actual error was way earlier. Please, > > remove the flag, add "-DNO_CLEAN" and show the command and a tail of > > the output. > I always use `make kernel KERNCONF=MY_KERNEL`. No special flags. > The whole output is here - http://62.8.64.102/~wash/kernel-20110129.log.txt > As for me, I've seen that for the first time... First I'll try to cleandir and redo the build. If fail -- build GENERIC, if fail -- GENERIC with null make.conf. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 10:45:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333FC106564A for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A162F8FC12 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4085667bwz.13 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:45:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ik/3ljN4yNEsVbx0RHQIpOwxKeyhUWEeoGQNYm3AN5U=; b=wdpilWdl7NBGeXWzFediD3/L4FtHiGay/XYyJ+vctVrN9dmiCn4PCGi3+sQTQp1FrM cJ7XHVjlcIouoyYybFT0QMxQZ6DXY4nHeO7q6kojaFhAm7YZKdU3AJZzWfbbhHhgKeJZ ruNfm9pOhtMubLFRDk9VeXUu4aogI4bYsHP9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GnVRRYJAUvtq1f9bP5dKrdT7mVz7M7hCBv5TFrDSPGs2hkgWZ8rBzLrC/dKXTcZY5s AY40zQjcdAVP1HBfIXFcVNMM6ANVIP5hg7lpLlrSZsgFUeLeDcWidQI83CPzXBqpR7cu cXnDgRh1gap7ZlCaIehbuCIcPWlSk82GWPQwQ= Received: by 10.204.78.72 with SMTP id j8mr3411895bkk.113.1296296040333; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.jennejohn.org (p578E2244.dip.t-dialin.net [87.142.34.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q18sm9156323bka.15.2011.01.29.02.13.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:13:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:13:57 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Neil Short Message-ID: <20110129111357.7d9083bc@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <741360.40372.qm@web161619.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <741360.40372.qm@web161619.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: missing us.dvorakr.kbd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 10:45:32 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:28:09 -0800 (PST) Neil Short wrote: > us.dvorakr.kbd is missing from /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/ > > > I found one on the web; but wonder if it's been fixed. > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD carmen.opera 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #2: Wed Oct 13 20:48:24 MST 2010 neshort@carmen:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CARMEN amd64 > Actually it's already present in /usr/src/share/syscons/keymaps, but for some reason it doesn't get installed. -- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 13:36:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683CB1065693 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DEC8FC08 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00EF929720; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:36:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4D4417E5.1040807@cyberleo.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 07:36:37 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101218 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael References: <4D42DF1B.7080604@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D42DF1B.7080604@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslog and chrooted isc-dhcpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:36:39 -0000 On 01/28/2011 09:22 AM, Michael wrote: > I'm running my isc-dhcp41-server with chroot option. > Is it possible to get it working with syslog? I don't know how to let > chrooted dhcpd to talk with my syslog. Apparently, you can either provide the -l flag via rc.conf (syslogd_flags) or add the full log socket path to /var/run/syslogd.sockets on the host. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 16:43:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD320106566B for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjkenyon@stny.rr.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889D78FC14 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.128.143.53]) by hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20110129163239866.KVLK18851@hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:32:39 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=+c36koQ5Dcj/1qolKHjtkYAGXvrVJRRiKMp+84F5sLg= c=1 sm=0 a=CO2N1FxY/t3foFxQgS2yIQ==:17 a=jq0RcXzk4Ijzha48wG4A:9 a=myAIplbe59sJkMIL_lUA:7 a=vSYqpe39IGIk4mg5-3TChWJYTDQA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HLERYw56t5j-tULuRNoA:9 a=5O2geapnNx_-hMHzg-UA:7 a=hx9YUO469lTdVOub2aPBNjwQfDwA:4 a=CO2N1FxY/t3foFxQgS2yIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 69.205.211.238 Received: from [69.205.211.238] ([69.205.211.238:50758] helo=homecomputer) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 78/76-24070-8E0444D4; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:31:37 +0000 Message-ID: <8A13AA7A9D8E4E49A2A7944C0C50AA44@homecomputer> From: "Joe & Millie" To: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:31:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: pop-up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:43:16 -0000 I keep getting a pop-up on my computer that reads unexpected error = has occurred ESOAPHTTP exception a connection w/ server could not be = established Url:http bootstrap developement how can i remove as pop up thank you JJkenyon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 29 19:13:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8593F106566C for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE498FC08 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tim-kellerss-macbook-pro.local (springfling73.org [96.57.143.21]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0LFS00988S0VLUJ0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:43:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:43:43 -0500 From: Tim Kellers To: freebsd general questions Message-id: <4D445FDF.6000108@wallnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 Subject: bigbluebutton X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:13:46 -0000 I've managed to build a partially working bigbluebutton (bigbluebutton-0.71_1) conference server on 9.0-Current, 8.2 Pre-Release and 7.3 stable platforms. On all versions of FreeBSD, I'm having the same issues, they are: 1. audio conferencing between web-joined users only works with asterisk 14. (14.39.1 sources --14.37 in ports is flagged for a security problem) I have no conference audio with asterisk16 or asterisk18 2. In the presentation module, Only one page of a document is ever displayed and only one thumbnail is ever created. The video camera sharing, the Desktop sharing, the whiteboard, and the built in text chat all seem to work fine. Does anyone have any similar experiences or solutions? Thanks Tim Kellers