From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 00:41:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12ACA106564A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48B68FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAC420505 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:23:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=fQXcs8vzKA5K/A5zY5FuMU veAgg=; b=MDUJQL3BKcF/UyaLmda/tKlGKLDUbiyF0iJfEvaNqdoT21ty9b+1cz Btaypr9ZKsxqOsibr+RAzF/3nQmNqMt8npNWGzOW+HXTnXE4+El/zOZacMR+7XQo yoLPdYZVRC4QYsnHrvkzR1EysolrQ8K6+IduvSFnQ2WqeJ9Il3NZo= X-Sasl-enc: p5vlGBPb37RlH9kbxdAsQObltNE1s3MfcEClF7Aeq8Mt 1323563031 Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 134D98E00B8 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:23:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:23:48 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111211002348.56497fde@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE3DA85.4070903@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE3DA85.4070903@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:41:26 -0000 On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:17:41 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > > SUJ speeds up the check a lot, seconds as opposed to minutes. If > > something happens to the journal, it falls back to a standard fsck. > But fsck needs to be run manually- I have users that can't do that, > and the filesystem corrupts. Ergo gjournal; it boots up and fixes on > the fly. So SU+J needs a manual fsck before booting proper or can it > just boot and be done? It's not very different; gjournal and SU both attempt to leave the filesystem in an coherent state, but both still need a preen to recover lost space. In either case the preen can fail requiring a full fsck. Journalled SU make SU behave more like gjournal in that you can do a fast foreground check which avoids the lengthy background fsck and avoids deferring the handling of unexpected inconsistencies to the next boot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 00:06:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EDC106566B; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-7.mit.edu (DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-7.MIT.EDU [18.7.68.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D48A8FC15; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:06:03 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 12074424-b7ef76d0000008dc-10-4ee3f0669c8c Received: from mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.35]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-7.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 6D.7D.02268.660F3EE4; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id pBANp1BX014618; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:51:02 -0500 Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id pBANowCf029959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id pBANov4B027352; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:50:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:50:57 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4EE351FE.5070807@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4EDEF1FF.5020307@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111207061137.GA38900@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4EE351FE.5070807@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrOIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrJv24bGfwYv3vBZz3nxgsnj5dROL xbJHG9ks/s76w+TA4jHj03wWj1PbDzIGMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZUya+o+xYCNvxY8fV1ga GJ9ydTFyckgImEj82NbCDmGLSVy4t54NxBYS2McoMemmaxcjF5C9gVFi5tV2JgjnAJNEx6y1 rBBOA6PEibUrgTIcHCwC2hInZ4NNYhNQkZj5ZiPYJBEBfYlzTafBbGYBF4lj7XvAaoQFvCQ+ /XzFDGJzChhJPFm+AizOK2AvsXP2MkaI+b2MEj8m7mQCSYgK6Eis3j+FBaJIUOLkzCcsEEMt Jf6t/cU6gVFwFpLULCSpBYxMqxhlU3KrdHMTM3OKU5N1i5MT8/JSi3TN9XIzS/RSU0o3MYLC l91FZQdj8yGlQ4wCHIxKPLwH7z/2E2JNLCuuzD3EKMnBpCTKO+c9UIgvKT+lMiOxOCO+qDQn tfgQowQHs5II7+lOoBxvSmJlVWpRPkxKmoNFSZy3YddDPyGB9MSS1OzU1ILUIpisDAeHkgTv XZChgkWp6akVaZk5JQhpJg5OkOE8QMPBFvMWFyTmFmemQ+RPMSpKifOuBkkIgCQySvPgemHp 5RWjONArwrxLQKp4gKkJrvsV0GAmoMFfsh+ADC5JREhJNTCuY1645wDX9tDOggzeSc9i8zy/ pnNzVrrd8VH+ous/dwdb+fdkh+VMqj9lrs2/uTUjVPCoUPObbfb8pZE+Ncs6LTbP4toUw3rl WZr7XvmNvLbOuw5ltPXd1hW8Hqrx+sKv+7vPLAnT5ndeq/F/T8ukL3X9kwtyHSNeNXs9OPtF 6vb6E4u+rRdVYinOSDTUYi4qTgQA6GY9XAoDAAA= X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:59:58 +0000 Cc: Current FreeBSD , gabor@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/AMD64 (CLANG): lang/gcc46 fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:06:04 -0000 [-questions to bcc] On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 12/07/11 07:11, Steve Kargl wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 05:56:31AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> config.status: creating ada/Makefile >>> config.status: creating auto-host.h >>> config.status: executing default commands >>> gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc46/work/build' >>> gmake[1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2 >>> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc46/work/build' >>> gmake: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2 >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc46. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc46. >>> >>> ===>>> make failed for lang/gcc46 >>> ===>>> Aborting update >>> >> >> See if setting DISABLE_MAKE_JOBSi helps. >> > > This doesn't work, either. The end of the build log from that case should be more enlightening than the one you originally posted, as it is more likely to actually contain the actual error (which is not present in the snippet above). > > In /etc/src.conf, I use WITH_ICONV=YES and _WITH_BSD_GREP=YES. Switching > off WITH_ICONV seems to solve the problem on FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64. > > I do not know whether OS versions below 10.0 do support the WITH_ICONV knob. > > This maybe is a hint to the problem. iconv was only added to base in r219019 | gabor | 2011-02-24 19:04:39 -0500 (Thu, 24 Feb 2011) so it will first appear in the imminent 9.0 release. Assuming that the error remains reproducible with an up-to-date tree, the end of the build log from the DISABLE_MAKE_JOBS case would be useful to see. I've added gabor as a cc, since he seems to be doing most of the iconv work. -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 02:34:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE1C1065676 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E418FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1759F1703E; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:16:20 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4EE41272.2090100@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:16:18 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Manolis Kiagias , Al Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Printer issue on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:34:41 -0000 Aloha Gurus... I had a a print server power supply burn out and took the HD and motherboard board with it. The box I replaced it with took the install of Manolis 8.0 Release DVD ok for the base and I used portsnap to bring apfilter on board. Thats all there is on it. /etc hosts lists all boxes that were served by the old box (see below) and I am using the same server IP 192.168.1.50. /etc/ hosts.lpd host.hdk5.net 192.168.1.50 host2.intra.net 192.168.1.23 host3.intra .net 192.168.1.35 wireless_host. 192.168.1.2 (linux laptop not on printer but on the lan) The FreeBSD worked fine on the box that burned up. Printer is HP laserjet1100 ++++ Settings in /etc/printcap (on the server) lp|ljet4q|ljet4d....... :lp/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4q:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4q/log:/ :af=/var/spool/lpd/let4q/acct:\ :mx=:#0\ :sh: This all prints ok test from the server using command line lpr -P ljet4q /etc/rc.conf This does not work from any other hosts on the lan as it used to on the old server. (not working from xorg or text from command line on the hosts on the line to be clear.) I can ping from box to box and can use ftp to print from the server by sending a text file to it from the other hosts on the lan. Any help appreciated. Thanks. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 05:45:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3F71065677 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332278FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD5A25C24 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:58:00 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE442DC.7080107@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:42:52 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE3DA85.4070903@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20111211002348.56497fde@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20111211002348.56497fde@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:45:39 -0000 On 12/11/11 10:23, RW wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:17:41 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > > >>> SUJ speeds up the check a lot, seconds as opposed to minutes. If >>> something happens to the journal, it falls back to a standard fsck. >> But fsck needs to be run manually- I have users that can't do that, >> and the filesystem corrupts. Ergo gjournal; it boots up and fixes on >> the fly. So SU+J needs a manual fsck before booting proper or can it >> just boot and be done? > It's not very different; gjournal and SU both attempt to leave the > filesystem in an coherent state, but both still need a preen to > recover lost space. In either case the preen can fail requiring a full > fsck. > > Journalled SU make SU behave more like gjournal in that you can do a > fast foreground check which avoids the lengthy background fsck and > avoids deferring the handling of unexpected inconsistencies to the next > boot. > Yes, but I don't do a fsck to recover gjournal- it has a miniscule blurp for a nanosecond and prints a message at boot and thats it. Is it the same with su+j? If it does then I'll drop gjournal (and the performance hit) and I'll use su+j when I jump to 9.0. I've never done fsck on a gjournal (yet). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 06:15:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2DC106566B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B17278FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2011 06:01:40 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.48] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2011 06:01:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2011 06:01:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=prodigy.net; s=s1024; t=1323583300; bh=892HHsuwjM6kWVrivvgnPaadHcoR0gCTc2XRnvH+dBA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=Heiel/v0pxt7ERw/y7ceOd9MrLor5V/A2NiFJBIZaI/VmmnEMpw+T6TXsUvofe1DN2suz9APJT+4MsLyy/74wPw78++lTk0jdQsRXJYvKV+vFRwGv/pGT6vDC2scexNrtzk09kkPSo3BRi2voMHcaaLvoUH6M02f9v0Jnzl1onY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 73759.70375.bm@smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 7SxxP38VM1laDMXw00hGasW6A_UYNK1cXeXgHq.VyZnv30c xsi0zebcZgu9dIF3z6G98XI_8g_w2Di8qD6Lrt6wV98H.wkkCs9ZPCRtS8Mq IpN4yz.xTHf2HVk9MFj_6IiOQJW848ufzISil3fDG5XCuoodOHqeMFUYnPex uoQuHc5AaplGCUDcFUFR4xAqUjkIdVSCMr_0dtwIas1zXc6aeA9ndNSLYOZ7 eI9D548FK5NWxFPjsxDZAlUaUAZLJUTXLc6eCQ0A3gOPx76tnW9G4lDA7Ea6 9jqZ8L3Z.EdCYzfaqP8YDzZS6siJMT779PinNSwbPjggCwNTQ9egfLEeLwAh u.3It4UuhajytfaPgiesxQZJ8BBlvK4l1jpbVL_GepHHvDV2ExYqPFu0vkYc m8N6yCzY.l8Ud4sez_mN2xAJxfi7aCA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 46rcWa.swBDnY9zvhIrsU2awgPSTQgUKFFrFJjEU8wwG Received: from [192.168.0.2] (jekillen@174.30.19.138 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2011 22:01:39 -0800 PST Message-Id: <88E8118F-3B0A-4453-9E10-2BE6733E4C81@prodigy.net> From: Jeffry Killen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:01:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Installation difficulties X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:15:20 -0000 Hello; I am not new to FreeBSD, but it has been a while since I worked with it. The last version I obtained from FreeBSD Mall is 7.2. The jewel case is marked with a date of May 2009, so it is a little behind. But I expected it to boot the i386 version installer, which it did on an Intel 64 bit processor. The 64 bit version is marked 'AMD64'. I would have gotten a laptop with AMD but this particular seller (Linux Certified) did not have one available when I was ready to buy. So now I am at it because the warrantee on the laptop has expired. So, I installed x-developer and attempted to install Apache from the included ports. None of the listed version would install: error code -1. I also tried MySQL. The first time it also failed to install. But did sysinstall and tried a different version than originally selected, and it did install. Since I wanted the GUI, I ran xinit when I got a shell prompt and xwindows failed to load and run, the error is "failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist). Perhaps this is not an issue that can be addressed practically, here, which is alright with me. But short of getting another DVD and trying to install from that is there a way to deal, at least with the fbdev complaint? My experience with FreeBSD goes back to 6.0, setting up and running servers, specifically web servers. This is going to be a development server, as it had been when it had Ubuntu Linux. Thank you for time and attention; JK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 08:19:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179381065670 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rocky@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8629F8FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54BE55C24; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:32:02 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE466F5.9060706@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:16:53 +1000 From: R Skinner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffry Killen References: <88E8118F-3B0A-4453-9E10-2BE6733E4C81@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <88E8118F-3B0A-4453-9E10-2BE6733E4C81@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation difficulties X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:19:41 -0000 On 12/11/11 16:01, Jeffry Killen wrote: > Hello; > I am not new to FreeBSD, but it has been a while since I worked with it. > The last version I obtained from FreeBSD Mall is 7.2. The jewel case > is marked with a date of May 2009, so it is a little behind. But I > expected it > to boot the i386 version installer, which it did on an Intel 64 bit > processor. > The 64 bit version is marked 'AMD64'. I would have gotten a laptop > with AMD > but this particular seller (Linux Certified) did not have one > available when > I was ready to buy. So now I am at it because the warrantee on the > laptop > has expired. > > So, I installed x-developer and attempted to install Apache from the > included > ports. None of the listed version would install: error code -1. > > I also tried MySQL. The first time it also failed to install. But did > sysinstall and tried > a different version than originally selected, and it did install. > > Since I wanted the GUI, I ran xinit when I got a shell prompt and > xwindows > failed to load and run, the error is "failed to load module fbdev > (module does > not exist). > > Perhaps this is not an issue that can be addressed practically, here, > which is > alright with me. But short of getting another DVD and trying to > install from that > is there a way to deal, at least with the fbdev complaint? > > My experience with FreeBSD goes back to 6.0, setting up and running > servers, > specifically web servers. This is going to be a development server, > as it had > been when it had Ubuntu Linux. > > Thank you for time and attention; > JK I'd download at least 8.2 (amd64 if you like, but you can stick to i386), and do a basic install (no ports or packages- yet). Once running execute freebsd-update fetch install as root, then portsnap fetch extract. With that done, then go into ports and install what you want from there by entering the directory of the port you want to install (say www/apache22) and running make install clean. You'll have options to select and away you go. If you can wait a few weeks (9.0-Release guys: back me up :) ), install the disk you have there and install in the same way so you have something to play around with and get your feet wet until 9. Or try 9.0-RC3, you can get release using freebsd-update. And above all: to do that you are going to become very good friends with the FreeBSD Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 10:25:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD1D106566B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9FD8FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBBAOvnM061838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:24:58 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pBBAOvnM061838 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1323599098; bh=An2Y6pqe+FgJime/qx8rRMqOF2SH2361yO3jotZtvwY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=R/msJjnSIgSO0Ga1D2knhb/+D5KxPrY4B1Oe+0c0Lc7/k+MOdkUe6H4MiAzVK83xi Tq5mvLBNlxG391W1bmpso1Sp8TJEer6Q9766kk4eb3DArhs3HIKPDyaVhaVgAIHuid aif57y1aHiCNCE9+38GmoWivK7g06saMnuvVMpEo= Message-ID: <4EE484F9.2050403@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:24:57 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <88E8118F-3B0A-4453-9E10-2BE6733E4C81@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <88E8118F-3B0A-4453-9E10-2BE6733E4C81@prodigy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA9B29D52347EB5353EF0F344" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Installation difficulties X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:25:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA9B29D52347EB5353EF0F344 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/12/2011 06:01, Jeffry Killen wrote: > So, I installed x-developer and attempted to install Apache from the > included > ports. None of the listed version would install: error code -1. 7.2 is out of support now, see: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html Inter-alia this means that there won't be packages available on the FTP servers specifically for that version. Unless you've got all your necessary packages on your DVD you aren't going to have much luck there. > I also tried MySQL. The first time it also failed to install. But did > sysinstall and tried > a different version than originally selected, and it did install. Verb. Sap. sysinstall(8) as a system management tool is like those dinky little training wheels kids get on their first bikes. Best to learn how to use pkg_add(1) from the command line; it will give you much better results in the end, and be a lot less frustrating to debug if it goes wrong. > Since I wanted the GUI, I ran xinit when I got a shell prompt and xwind= ows > failed to load and run, the error is "failed to load module fbdev > (module does > not exist). That can optionally be installed from the x11-drives/xorg-drivers port, but it's not enabled by default, so you won't find it in a precompiled package. You'll need to install a copy of the ports tree and use it to compile from source, selecting the fbdev option in that port. However, first I'd recommend updating your system to the latest available (given it is a new install of FreeBSD). There are several possible ways of doing that -- peruse the Handbook for details -- but probably the path of least effort would be to download a new DVD or USB stick installer image and start again with that. It's free, apart from the cost of media, bandwidth and your time. Also, if you want a quick start into a desktop based system, PC-BSD is probably worth a look. That's FreeBSD underneath, but with a lot of GUI-ness layered on top as part of their standard system. You should be able to run mysql and other servers on it just as if you were on a vanilla FreeBSD setup. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA9B29D52347EB5353EF0F344 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7khPkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxGuACeMUnk9819bve7g7FIp/hRvGCB KjEAn14i4FWgGnxrnVV3xP4QB22wGpzW =8Yuk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA9B29D52347EB5353EF0F344-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 11:32:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134C106566B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D078FC17 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B343D2792FF5; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:07 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EU-iMKgd2Lwe; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.9] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FB392792FF4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:06 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20111210073017.7e24a5aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:32:00 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <707ADED8-5417-429B-8EB1-D541068BE710@d3photography.com> References: <258382C6-4904-44EE-86D4-1F8F97559983@d3photography.com> <20111209190305.c6bc60cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <49B5BAFE-22AE-4AB0-A3FD-51FF9B1722DC@d3photography.com> <20111210073017.7e24a5aa.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: OT: C|Net's Download.com adware, spyware, malware hijinkx. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:32:03 -0000 On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:05:05 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>=20 >> On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Polytropon wrote: >>=20 >>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:38:59 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>>> It's still not malware, it's bloatware. Why would you >>>> not go to the development website to get the program anyway? >>>=20 >>> Uninvitedly adding toolbars, changing web browser >>> home page and default search engine are - in my >>> opinion - malicious acts, so the term "malware" >>> may be correct here. Maybe the term "spyware" is >>> also appropriate, depending on what the "additions" >>> actually do behind the curtain. >>>=20 >>> Note an important thing: When careless users will >>> notice the change, they will maybe blame the authors >>> of the original software, not the distributor. >>> This could do damage to F/O products, at least >>> in "Windows" land. >>>=20 >>> Luckily, those who build from source or use >>> precompiled packages from a trustworthy >>> vendor don't have to care for that stuff. :-) >>=20 >> So, wait, Firefox is Malware? Did you notice that with FF4 >> they changed it so that you didn't get prompted on launch >> it overrides your default but instead it's a checkbox inside >> the installer? >=20 > I've never installed something in "Windows" so my > opinion has limited fact-backup here. I don't even > see from your post _what_ they changed in FF4 - the > default browser? The home page? Additional toolbars? > Some advertising? Hmmm=85 You no longer are prompted on first load of the program to change your = default browser. That's done for you on the installation program. Which is *EXACTLY WHAT I SAID* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 13:31:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2891065677 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44B48FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so5728296bkb.13 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:31:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=g6NhzHYbybUBDMf2xrM6g6j7WvsKGFdQELkAk4n0o6o=; b=N+rXD2FxihYeg2KVH5rpolt3C33hfZ20WMeQIvje/vWCI9cdCulzlpVYEThIRm81gc Ei9G/1L2UfVzc6FIf39Qh8VLwky6fp6+wCYiq76gn/+JxB7MHuym+btred6LxmThid6L SErT+QiY8SXVviGp6m2MmC0JIevTRWfGqBLcQ= Received: by 10.205.127.17 with SMTP id gy17mr2785380bkc.113.1323610305470; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:31:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.82.70 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:31:04 -0800 (PST) From: saeedeh motlagh Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:01:04 +0330 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: bridging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:31:47 -0000 hello everybody i have a problem in bridging my interfaces. i want to bridge my 4 interfaces and make switching in freebsd box but in doesn't work. with two interfaces the bridge works well and pass the traffic but for four interfaces in doesn't what is expected. you know i want to have a freebsd sysytem to do switching between four systems which are connected to. somebody know what's wrong? and how i can bridge my four interfaces and have switching? thanks motlagh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 13:38:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F11D106566B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dura-zell@dynamik.ddns.net) Received: from mail.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net (p57A214AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.162.20.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3B18FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from adrastea.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net (adrastea.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net [192.168.20.5]) by mail.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7653848FC for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:18:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dynamik.ddns.net Received: from mail.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net ([192.168.20.4]) by adrastea.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net (adrastea.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net [192.168.20.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ho127WmNJumn for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.23.99] (phenom2.neptun.dynamik.ddns.net [192.168.23.99]) by mail.jupiter.dynamik.ddns.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F03B63848B2 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EE4ADBB.9030501@dynamik.ddns.net> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:18:51 +0100 From: Dura Zell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:49:22 +0000 Subject: pxebooting different versions/variants of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:38:24 -0000 Hi I'm planning to setup a machine wich should provide several versions of FreeBSD and their respective amd64 and x86 variants. Addtionally the user should have the option to install the selected os(es) locally. Currently I'm using pxelinux.0 from syslinux to create a text-based menu for the user to select the desired option like this: 1. diskless boot FreeBSD 8.0 amd64 2. Install FreeBSD 8.0 amd64 locally 3. diskless FreeBSD 8.0 x86 4. Install FreeBSD 8.0 x86 locally 5. Recovery System In fact I'm planning to provide some more FreeBSD versions and some linux distros too, but there is no problem with that currently and the above example is the one I'm using for testing now. gpxelinux chains the regular /boot/pxeboot and gives it control to do the rest wich works fine and I'm able to boot into a testbed installation of FreeBSD. Unfortunately for me, pxeboot relies on the dhcp-option "root-path" to be set to know where to find where the rootfs sits. As the user should be able to select the version to install freely, I can't preconfigure this on a machine basis (by using the mac address as identifier). Is there a way to circumvent the need need of the dhcp option "root-path" and set it instead manually via a config file or as parameter? If not: How can I achieve my goal of pxebooting the different versions of FreeBSD? with kind regards, Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 13:49:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75889106568A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC7B8FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 118735C24 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:01:54 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE4B445.80904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:46:45 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bridging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 13:49:33 -0000 On 12/11/11 23:31, saeedeh motlagh wrote: > hello everybody > i have a problem in bridging my interfaces. i want to bridge my 4 > interfaces and make switching in freebsd box but in doesn't work. with two > interfaces the bridge works well and pass the traffic but for four > interfaces in doesn't what is expected. you know i want to have a freebsd > sysytem to do switching between four systems which are connected to. > somebody know what's wrong? and how i can bridge my four interfaces and > have switching? > thanks > motlagh > Can you supply information on what devices you are using for your switches? Ifconfig, pciconf -lv Which version are you using? uname -a What commands are you using to setup switching? What diagnostics have you done? How do you know it doesn't work? Good luck. I'm sure someone can help if you provide that information, although they may need more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 15:51:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFB9106566B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D3B8FC17 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcse13 with SMTP id e13so4532752qcs.13 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.52.84 with SMTP id h20mr3661414qcg.94.1323618710355; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:51:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: max@mxcrypt.com Received: by 10.229.155.198 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:51:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4CD8388C.2010703@intersonic.se> References: <4CD8388C.2010703@intersonic.se> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:51:19 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UxE59V2nH7L9knqlDGpWpVZN98E Message-ID: To: Per olof Ljungmark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Entropy Key for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:51:51 -0000 On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Hi, > > Did anyone in the community try to adopt the Entropy Key > http://www.entropykey.com/ > for use with FreeBSD? > > As a non-programmer I would not even try but perhaps someone with better > skills already did? > > FWIW MirBSD seems to have a port of the keyd. > > Thanks! I'm curious if you or anyone else pursued this topic? Does anyone know what would be required to get this particular USB RNG to work with FreeBSD 9.0 and whether it's worth the money in situations where a good source of entropy is required? - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 18:24:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD528106564A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848818FC16 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.local (206.Red-2-139-48.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [2.139.48.206]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8E581C0841 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:24:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EE4F571.60506@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:24:49 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE4ADBB.9030501@dynamik.ddns.net> In-Reply-To: <4EE4ADBB.9030501@dynamik.ddns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pxebooting different versions/variants of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:24:52 -0000 On 11/12/2011 13:18, Dura Zell wrote: > Is there a way to circumvent the need need of the dhcp option > "root-path" and set it instead manually via a config file or as > parameter? If not: How can I achieve my goal of pxebooting the different > versions of FreeBSD? Hi: No. The only thing you can do is to set root-path for each host with host declarations in your dhcpd.conf. This is useful if you know the mac of each computer and that for example certain macs correspond to 64bit systems while others to 32bit. However, in the installer you can choose the version to install if you want a different. BR, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 18:42:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FCE106564A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00A68FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBBIV7af016326; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:31:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9AB9ABACE; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:31:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:31:07 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: ajtiM Message-ID: <20111211183107.GA59858@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <201112091735.17538.lumiwa@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201112091735.17538.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: blender - python32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:42:37 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 05:35:17PM -0600, ajtiM wrote: > H! >=20 > I have fresh installed 9.0-RC3 FreeBSD 9.0-RC3 #0 and I use KDE 4. I like= to=20 > install Blender 2.6 but: > Required To Build: lang/python32 > Required To Run: lang/python32 >=20 > Installed Python on the system is 2.7. I don't like to update on 32 becau= se=20 > some problems (py27-numpy for example). Is it possible to run both versio= ns=20 > and don't have problems, please? You can run them side-by-side without problems.=20 And the current numpy whould work with 3.2 as well, although I haven't tried that yet. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7k9usACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU0JwCdEKhraipt2TQdRnBApz6PWbUD oP0An2PUDSMyepLGvfHMB6qcNPocnfIM =T05i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 18:52:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990921065673 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [69.89.24.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63BFA8FC1C for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12397 invoked by uid 0); 11 Dec 2011 18:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2011 18:25:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=XpxEnRpeW8xK6yiwyuI0NaXZTSbEmRm13c5Or+a2llk=; b=e2h9p98gRb4AqGhniIZyn2XRv1t9SGqd/1Mc4J3X9tBxBdHYi7IlgthWjQcq4+Hc0vKv3rpxgefoLiYZxGBgpj8Tff2XQaXZ82SQyrNsdN31PZBFV+f28LvfRi8RwV6e; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RZo5R-0001bp-Cx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:25:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:25:20 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111211182520.GA7023@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <258382C6-4904-44EE-86D4-1F8F97559983@d3photography.com> <20111209190305.c6bc60cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <49B5BAFE-22AE-4AB0-A3FD-51FF9B1722DC@d3photography.com> <20111210073017.7e24a5aa.freebsd@edvax.de> <707ADED8-5417-429B-8EB1-D541068BE710@d3photography.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <707ADED8-5417-429B-8EB1-D541068BE710@d3photography.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: OT: C|Net's Download.com adware, spyware, malware hijinkx. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:52:22 -0000 On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 05:32:00AM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote: > On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:05:05 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> > >> So, wait, Firefox is Malware? Did you notice that with FF4 > >> they changed it so that you didn't get prompted on launch > >> it overrides your default but instead it's a checkbox inside > >> the installer? > > > > I've never installed something in "Windows" so my > > opinion has limited fact-backup here. I don't even > > see from your post _what_ they changed in FF4 - the > > default browser? The home page? Additional toolbars? > > Some advertising? Hmmm… > > You no longer are prompted on first load of the program to change your > default browser. That's done for you on the installation program. > > Which is *EXACTLY WHAT I SAID* I understand your point, but what you said exactly was only that it "overrides your default", and not what default was overridden. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 19:49:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A77E106564A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from mail.lhr-its.com (natasha.lhr-its.com [64.204.249.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F8D8FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geonosis.vindaloo.com (ool-18e412d2.dyn.optonline.net [24.228.18.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lhr-its.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5FF35C01B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from hadar.vindaloo.com (hadar.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by geonosis.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C687CBA0A; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:31:49 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Hilton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:31:49 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Subject: ath0 + wlan0 + spa + Apple Airport Extreme => No Joy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:49:02 -0000 Good day, I'm trying to get FreeBSD going on a soekris box with an atheros based = D-Link PCI wifi card. I intend to use this combination to bridge a = difficult network back to ethernet but right now I'm just trying to get = the soekris associated to the network. The network is managed by an = Apple Airport Extreme. Note that this combination connects just fine to = my MiFi 4082. I only have a problem connecting to the Airport. The soekris box is running FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE built from source about = 11/15/2011.=20 I have this in my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: network=3D{ ssid=3D"Vindaloo" psk=3D"************" } network=3D{ ssid=3D"Vindaloo-Mobile" psk=3D"**********" } If I read the wireless setup document right I need this in my = /etc/rc.conf: wlans_ath0=3D"wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0=3D"ssid Vindaloo WPA DHCP" This box appears to associate with the network just fine but then it = doesn't receive anything except broadcast traffic. 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[184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t3sm20649844anf.0.2011.12.11.12.21.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:21:54 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: Roland Smith Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:21:39 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RC3; KDE/4.7.3; i386; ; ) References: <201112091735.17538.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20111211183107.GA59858@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20111211183107.GA59858@slackbox.erewhon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201112111421.40133.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: blender - python32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:21:56 -0000 On Sunday 11 December 2011 12:31:07 Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 05:35:17PM -0600, ajtiM wrote: > > H! > > > > I have fresh installed 9.0-RC3 FreeBSD 9.0-RC3 #0 and I use KDE 4. I like > > to install Blender 2.6 but: > > Required To Build: lang/python32 > > Required To Run: lang/python32 > > > > Installed Python on the system is 2.7. I don't like to update on 32 > > because some problems (py27-numpy for example). Is it possible to run > > both versions and don't have problems, please? > > You can run them side-by-side without problems. > > And the current numpy whould work with 3.2 as well, although I haven't > tried that yet. > > Roland Thank you very muh. I will give a try. I was not sure with numpy because it needs pythn 2.7 tou build and run as I red on freshports. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 20:57:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E8D106566B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward9.mail.yandex.net (forward9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABA38FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (smtp7.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.55]) by forward9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 94725CE0DE4 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:41:24 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1323636084; bh=mIeS+Lds361bw/sYPA3QQlostz6k51GBZfXu8mcsWhM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XO1c/s4YbG47FGudfLUZdYusGQiEmJlCLVKLTO6j7oI+AJfCPS5MDDWFdrf2E7ha1 rtnB/d4+wuAd9mimwtHxA2Z/y4uipvvzNyB2bZyNIekgrMMjlBmKEWHGiyQR4U4yhq CPrGH+Uvm+VlZ5p79AiKW6YJQURSs/QT4ffajjlA= Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6F6EE1580446 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:41:24 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1323636084; bh=mIeS+Lds361bw/sYPA3QQlostz6k51GBZfXu8mcsWhM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XO1c/s4YbG47FGudfLUZdYusGQiEmJlCLVKLTO6j7oI+AJfCPS5MDDWFdrf2E7ha1 rtnB/d4+wuAd9mimwtHxA2Z/y4uipvvzNyB2bZyNIekgrMMjlBmKEWHGiyQR4U4yhq CPrGH+Uvm+VlZ5p79AiKW6YJQURSs/QT4ffajjlA= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id fNtSC5Qp-fOt4YXVw; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:41:24 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:41:16 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <179332448.20111211224116@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: How to boot new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 20:57:21 -0000 Hi Freebsd-questions. In system two disks now: # kenv | grep dev currdev="disk1s1a:" loaddev="disk1s1a:" loader_conf_files="/boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf /boot/loader.conf.local" vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/ad8s1a" kern.devalias.ada0="ad4" kern.devalias.ada1="ad8" one was with installed FreeBSD (ad4) and second is empty (ad8) I install new system to ad8 and add to (ad4) /boot/loader.conf next line: vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/ad8s1a" so next time I booted from second hdd. But now I have problem. How to boot kernel from second device instead of first one. BIOS starts to run loader from first device (ad4) and kernel is booted from it but all other is mounted from (ad8) # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad8s1a 1G 117M 809M 13% / devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad8s1e 1G 267M 660M 29% /tmp /dev/ad8s1f 39G 23G 13G 64% /usr /dev/ad8s1d 5.8G 3.9G 1.5G 72% /var procfs 4.0k 4.0k 0B 100% /proc devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /var/named/dev so in memory I have old kenel uname -a shows that #0: Sat Nov 12 20:17:02 EET 2011 (I have compiled new kenel on 2011 12 03 ) but on disk all is new: kernel and world. How to force to load kernel from second drive (without access to machine directly)? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 01:12:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAE61065672 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30998FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pBC1CgVe063447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pBC1Cgfd063446; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00486; Sun, 11 Dec 11 17:08:15 PST Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:07:24 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4ee5b63c.ctpzeJdTyETAUTAx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <88E8118F-3B0A-4453-9E10-2BE6733E4C81@prodigy.net> <4EE484F9.2050403@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EE484F9.2050403@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Installation difficulties X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:12:44 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > 7.2 is out of support now, see: > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html > > Inter-alia this means that there won't be packages available > on the FTP servers specifically for that version ... What, exactly, _is_ the policy on retention of the -release package sets? 8.1 _is_ still supported (until sometime in 2012 IIRC), but ftp.freebsd.org seems to contain only 8.2-release and 8-stable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 02:05:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEBE1065670 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (mail.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4232A8FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3620 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 02:05:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.196?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@49.128.35.38) by mail.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 02:05:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4EE56153.8050108@extracktor.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:05:07 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE3D6DC.8000201@otenet.gr>, <4EE3D8B3.30308@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <44AC45947DA14449AEDFB13B9F6C5F7D095D33@LTCFISWMSGMB25.FNFIS.com> In-Reply-To: <44AC45947DA14449AEDFB13B9F6C5F7D095D33@LTCFISWMSGMB25.FNFIS.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:05:11 -0000 On 11/12/2011 6:21 AM, Robison, Dave wrote: > I prefer having separate partitions because it's more in line with traditional unix systems, and in particular, I don't like letting users have unlimited access to /tmp. Pardon the noob question: will using Disk Quotas work to limit the damage http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/quotas.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 02:21:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F280C106566B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (mail.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FD1D8FC0C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2251 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 01:54:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.196?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@49.128.35.38) by mail.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 01:54:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4EE55ED1.3090305@extracktor.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:54:25 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: difference between cvsup and csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:21:09 -0000 Hello guys, I notice FreeBSD is now using (and probably has been for a while) csup instead of cvsup. The parameters looking identical - at least from the no-gui perspective. Can anyone advise what the difference is, and perhaps educate me on how this came to be? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 04:31:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408001065673 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mage@mage.hu) Received: from grs.hu (grs.hu [195.56.45.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064638FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by grs.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RZxCx-0000O4-Qi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:09:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4EE57E87.40409@mage.hu> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:09:43 +0100 From: Mage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111117 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: pkg_add vs portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:31:25 -0000 Hello, why is that "pkg_add -r x11/kde4" could not install kde4 (404 not found) but "portmaster -P x11/kde4" did, however "portmaster -P xorg" didn't install xorg (it just reinstalled some modules) then "pkg_add -r xorg" installed it. I am a bit confused with these. I was reading this: http://freebsd.kde.org/ and this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html First I installed kde4 then xorg. My ports are up to date. Mage From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 04:43:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF51106566B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F49D8FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F0895C24 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:56:19 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE585E4.60006@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:41:08 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE3D6DC.8000201@otenet.gr>, <4EE3D8B3.30308@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <44AC45947DA14449AEDFB13B9F6C5F7D095D33@LTCFISWMSGMB25.FNFIS.com> <4EE56153.8050108@extracktor.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE56153.8050108@extracktor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:43:57 -0000 On 12/12/11 12:05, Foo JH wrote: > On 11/12/2011 6:21 AM, Robison, Dave wrote: >> I prefer having separate partitions because it's more in line with >> traditional unix systems, and in particular, I don't like letting >> users have unlimited access to /tmp. > Pardon the noob question: will using Disk Quotas work to limit the damage > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/quotas.html No, thats a very astute observation. Although its a lot harder to break limits when its an actual partition and everything shows exactly what there is to work with. So I'd personally still use partitioning myself. Quotas could work though, but its an added layer of admin as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 04:51:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D3F106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0098FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RZxrD-0006q0-JX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:51:19 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:51:19 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:51:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:51:19 -0500 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <4EE55ED1.3090305@extracktor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: difference between cvsup and csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:51:21 -0000 Foo JH wrote: > Hello guys, > > I notice FreeBSD is now using (and probably has been for a while) csup > instead of cvsup. The parameters looking identical - at least from the > no-gui perspective. > > Can anyone advise what the difference is, and perhaps educate me on how > this came to be? > I'm certainly not any kind of expert, but please note by examining the dependencies you will notice cvsup requires ezm3. This is a portable version of Modula-3 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modula-3 ), upon which cvsup is designed. Csup is a rewrite of cvsup in the C language, and as such can be included as part of the base operating system. It is only linked against a few system libraries. This also means it can be built using the same tools and system compiler whenever the system itself is updated. Csup is faster, built-in, and has no third party dependencies. Theoretically it should have less potential for problems. Cvsup is a third party port, which itself depends on other third party ports. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:10:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBA9106566B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@rootbsd.daleco.biz) Received: from rootbsd.daleco.biz (fi9u.x.rootbsd.net [199.48.129.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E007F8FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rootbsd.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rootbsd.daleco.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBC4k75D041156; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kevin@rootbsd.daleco.biz) Received: (from kevin@localhost) by rootbsd.daleco.biz (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id pBC4k7w1041155; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kevin) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:46:07 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey To: Foo JH Message-ID: <20111212044607.GA36872@rootbsd.daleco.biz> References: <4EE55ED1.3090305@extracktor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EE55ED1.3090305@extracktor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: difference between cvsup and csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:10:31 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 09:54:25AM +0800, Foo JH wrote: > Hello guys, > > I notice FreeBSD is now using (and probably has been for a while) csup > instead of cvsup. The parameters looking identical - at least from the > no-gui perspective. > > Can anyone advise what the difference is, and perhaps educate me on how > this came to be? csup is a re-write of cvsup that's written in C, so it can be included in the "base system" without requiring installation of Modula3 (the language cvsup was written in). There may also be licensing diffs (I'm not sure about that off the top of my head). Hope this helps. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:31:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6B9106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2828FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.5.199] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RZyUU-0007Mb-Bs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:31:54 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:31:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14116/Mon Dec 12 03:33:42 2011) Subject: Certain users can't start python X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:31:56 -0000 Hello, I am ... stuck. I've been trying to setup mercurials web frontend with apache, but apache won't start python. Not as cgi-script, not with mod_python. Investigating, I found this not only to be a problem with apache. Situation now: Users "michael" and "root" can run python. All others can't: Could not find platform independent libraries Could not find platform dependent libraries Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:] ImportError: No module named site For troubleshooting, I cloned "michael" to an new user "dummy", i. e. I created the user, copied all .dotfiles from "michael" over, adjusted permissions. "dummy" can't start python either. Changing accounts with su does not help: dummy$ su -l michael dummy$ su -m michael *both* can run python, michael$ su -l dummy michael$ su -m dummy *both* can not run python. Setting PYTHONHOME does not help -- the libraries are found (probably, the error messages disappear), the ImportError remains. It's been a couple of long days and maybe I'm missing something obvious? Any input would be greatly appreciated. 8.2 stable, python 2.7.2. As for python, I tried reinstalling. No change. TIA Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:39:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67C01065672 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FAC8FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2011 00:39:57 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BLX87728; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:39:57 -0500 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.86.84; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2011 00:39:57 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20197.37805.32580.154033@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:39:57 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <4EE55ED1.3090305@extracktor.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: difference between cvsup and csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:39:58 -0000 Michael Powell writes: > Csup is a rewrite of cvsup in the C language, and as such can be > included as part of the base operating system. It is only linked > against a few system libraries. This also means it can be built > using the same tools and system compiler whenever the system > itself is updated. > > Csup is faster, built-in, and has no third party > dependencies. Theoretically it should have less potential for > problems. Cvsup is a third party port, which itself depends on > other third party ports. I believe there are a couple of obscure functionalities that cvsup has that csup does not. If you're asking this question, you (probably) don't have to worry about them. For the general user, csup is a drop-in replacement. My expereince - as a general user - supports this. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:49:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84D1106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790B58FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so6346999bkb.13 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:49:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=tRYBoqxuipeZebbAHgG1t5EA94SG8F6xBKBBiG4c5RM=; b=ASxXiimq2E0DQCOQFBjfnU7MVkgoxnpvxf68IJhCTyUWMev5o0BzjAZ9FCNXZv9Sef 7zAultXA46lfS6s/bxyCDPEjh19ED9ljTkuqUc93D9WJWbu/wdlW/W6gKZ1AcuhbmhWX CK4ieptHuks8OCgW3Br2pxMABYAWWGATcy8Hw= Received: by 10.204.136.220 with SMTP id s28mr9353595bkt.59.1323668981339; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:49:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.82.70 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:49:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE4B445.80904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4EE4B445.80904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: saeedeh motlagh Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:19:00 +0330 Message-ID: To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bridging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 05:49:43 -0000 my freebsd is 8.2 and i have four interfaces which two of them are gbeth and two others are igb. i think the interfaces are ok beacuse when i bridge two interfaces, it works fine. i use the below command to create my bridge: ifconfig bridge0 create ifconfig bridge0 addm gbeth0 addm igb0 addm igb1 addm gbeth1 up what is wrong here? it's so necessary for me to doing this:( On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Da Rock < freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > On 12/11/11 23:31, saeedeh motlagh wrote: > >> hello everybody >> i have a problem in bridging my interfaces. i want to bridge my 4 >> interfaces and make switching in freebsd box but in doesn't work. with two >> interfaces the bridge works well and pass the traffic but for four >> interfaces in doesn't what is expected. you know i want to have a freebsd >> sysytem to do switching between four systems which are connected to. >> somebody know what's wrong? and how i can bridge my four interfaces and >> have switching? >> thanks >> motlagh >> >> Can you supply information on what devices you are using for your > switches? Ifconfig, pciconf -lv > > Which version are you using? uname -a > > What commands are you using to setup switching? > > What diagnostics have you done? How do you know it doesn't work? > > Good luck. I'm sure someone can help if you provide that information, > although they may need more. > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:11:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC57106564A; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACAA8FC12; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2F2226B3C; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:56:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69403-03; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.134] (24-246-4-43.cable.teksavvy.com [24.246.4.43]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 991C4226B3B; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:56:28 -0400 (AST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Hub- FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1323576406.11525.140661010093757@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:56:28 -0500 Message-Id: <214308D4-AB41-4FA5-BF65-4FA94793E496@hub.org> References: <1323576406.11525.140661010093757@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: antony@mawer.org, fabrizio@nldesign.com, scrappy@freebsd.org, alex@libman.us Subject: Re: Thank you for bsdstats! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:11:10 -0000 Since this may by of interest to others, including those maintaining = ports, I've just created a dump of the history data for ports and = versions reported in =85 not the reporting ports is optional, there = appears to only be about 10% of the hosts that report in port = information =85 The dump is available at http://www.bsdstats.org/ports.raw.sql.bz2 it contains a postgresql dump of three tables: ports, where id =3D=3D system id (anonymous data, but let's you group data) catid =3D=3D link to port_category (ie. net, www) sw_id =3D=3D link to port_software (ie. apache, perl) the data goes back to '07, so a fair amount of history to look at =85 For those unaware of what BSDstats is, check out http://www.bsdstats.org = *or* /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats =85 short summary: An OptIn only site that accumulates statistics on *BSD related usage =85 = as the #s show when you go to the site, it is by no means close to the # = of sites using *BSD ... We are averaging over 6k hosts reporting in each month, for 7 different = variants of *BSD: PC-BSD, FreeBSD, DesktopBSD, DragonflyBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and = MidnightBSD=20 To participate is a simple 'make install' in = /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats =85 at a minimum, just make sure you enable = it to run monthly out of periodic =85=20 The data collected and stored is done so totally anonymously =85 we = collect no IP *or* hostname information =85 each participate gets an Id = that is stored in a token file that is used for reporting, which also = allows the system to work through proxy / nat, since the individual ID = is generated the first time you connect to the system, and used going = forward =85 On 2011-12-10, at 11:06 PM, Alex Libman wrote: > Dear BSD Stats Team, >=20 > I just wanted to drop you a line and thank you for bsdstats. I run it > on my *BSD installations whenever it is feasible. I am also wondering > if it would be possible to access the aggregate data in a raw format. > I am particularly curious about the ports usage data... >=20 > Best regards, > Alex Libman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:13:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90564106566B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B0E8FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1AD05C24 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:25:55 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE5A8F5.9080807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:10:45 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE4B445.80904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bridging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:13:33 -0000 On 12/12/11 15:49, saeedeh motlagh wrote: > my freebsd is 8.2 and i have four interfaces which two of them are gbeth > and two others are igb. i think the interfaces are ok beacuse when i bridge > two interfaces, it works fine. > i use the below command to create my bridge: > ifconfig bridge0 create > ifconfig bridge0 addm gbeth0 addm igb0 addm igb1 addm gbeth1 up > what is wrong here? it's so necessary for me to doing this:( Is it any 2 interfaces? What command do you use to get the 2 interfaces working? > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Da Rock< > freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > >> On 12/11/11 23:31, saeedeh motlagh wrote: >> >>> hello everybody >>> i have a problem in bridging my interfaces. i want to bridge my 4 >>> interfaces and make switching in freebsd box but in doesn't work. with two >>> interfaces the bridge works well and pass the traffic but for four >>> interfaces in doesn't what is expected. you know i want to have a freebsd >>> sysytem to do switching between four systems which are connected to. >>> somebody know what's wrong? and how i can bridge my four interfaces and >>> have switching? >>> thanks >>> motlagh >>> >>> Can you supply information on what devices you are using for your >> switches? Ifconfig, pciconf -lv >> >> Which version are you using? uname -a >> >> What commands are you using to setup switching? >> >> What diagnostics have you done? How do you know it doesn't work? >> >> Good luck. I'm sure someone can help if you provide that information, >> although they may need more. >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:27:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A00B106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from sphinx.otenet.gr (sphinx.otenet.gr [83.235.69.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C113E8FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from panas.otenet.gr (panas.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by sphinx.otenet.gr (ESMTP) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:27:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from [192.168.0.150] (athedsl-4364788.home.otenet.gr [79.130.9.228]) by panas.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBC7RLQM018241 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:27:24 +0200 Message-ID: <4EE5ACD9.40909@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:27:21 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE55ED1.3090305@extracktor.com> <20197.37805.32580.154033@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20197.37805.32580.154033@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: difference between cvsup and csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:27:27 -0000 On 12/12/2011 7:39 πμ, Robert Huff wrote: > Michael Powell writes: > >> Csup is a rewrite of cvsup in the C language, and as such can be >> included as part of the base operating system. It is only linked >> against a few system libraries. This also means it can be built >> using the same tools and system compiler whenever the system >> itself is updated. >> >> Csup is faster, built-in, and has no third party >> dependencies. Theoretically it should have less potential for >> problems. Cvsup is a third party port, which itself depends on >> other third party ports. > I believe there are a couple of obscure functionalities that > cvsup has that csup does not. If you're asking this question, you > (probably) don't have to worry about them. > For the general user, csup is a drop-in replacement. My > expereince - as a general user - supports this. > > > Robert Huff > It used to be (some versions ago) that csup only handled checkout mode and not CVS mode (that is, a mode of operation that allows you to mirror a complete CVS repository which in effect allows you to checkout and commit locally to your copy). This was for me the only reason to keep cvsup around. But csup has caught up with this functionality eliminating the need to install and use cvsup, esp. since csup is part of the base system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:48:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2B61065677 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward1.mail.yandex.net (forward1.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAC78FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.mail.yandex.net (smtp1.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.101]) by forward1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 97B7F124263C; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:48:47 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1323676127; bh=gmdFNgvKC+a/dEL6ZjIQBheBHV2W12deEfCMl055Zj0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=REH+8Sjnrga2aPxmCphF0imGoi0WJe/fFRH3eeSlrwwiCIWyP7CZRS5WRAczk9Mip 3an9xm2LJCWKSbI5Hixy7pRly+td16/skFZ8n3AHQlTln40HcC5AT9Swku1YQRZy7/ b0mTRERYBc118UV9ezCewgyt+HxtbAczNh6NAZkE= Received: from smtp1.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 72F10AA0344; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:48:47 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1323676127; bh=gmdFNgvKC+a/dEL6ZjIQBheBHV2W12deEfCMl055Zj0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=REH+8Sjnrga2aPxmCphF0imGoi0WJe/fFRH3eeSlrwwiCIWyP7CZRS5WRAczk9Mip 3an9xm2LJCWKSbI5Hixy7pRly+td16/skFZ8n3AHQlTln40HcC5AT9Swku1YQRZy7/ b0mTRERYBc118UV9ezCewgyt+HxtbAczNh6NAZkE= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp1.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id mkGKhguC-mlGuQifH; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:48:47 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:48:46 +0200 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <786057323.20111212094846@yandex.ru> To: krad In-Reply-To: References: <179332448.20111211224116@yandex.ru> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to boot new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:48:50 -0000 HI, krad. How I can figure out the correspondence of bios drive number and freebsd numbering? > Have a look at boot.config file you should be able to do something there On Dec 11, 2011 8:57 PM, "Kon'kov Evgenij" <[1]kes-kes@yandex.ru> wrote: Hi Freebsd-questions. In system two disks now: # kenv | grep dev currdev="disk1s1a:" loaddev="disk1s1a:" loader_conf_files="/boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf /boot/loader.conf.local" vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/ad8s1a" kern.devalias.ada0="ad4" kern.devalias.ada1="ad8" one was with installed FreeBSD (ad4) and second is empty (ad8) I install new system to ad8 and add to (ad4) /boot/loader.conf next line: vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/ad8s1a" so next time I booted from second hdd. But now I have problem. How to boot kernel from second device instead of first one. BIOS starts to run loader from first device (ad4) and kernel is booted from it but all other is mounted from (ad8) # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad8s1a 1G 117M 809M 13% / devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad8s1e 1G 267M 660M 29% /tmp /dev/ad8s1f 39G 23G 13G 64% /usr /dev/ad8s1d 5.8G 3.9G 1.5G 72% /var procfs 4.0k 4.0k 0B 100% /proc devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /var/named/dev so in memory I have old kenel uname -a shows that #0: Sat Nov 12 20:17:02 EET 2011 (I have compiled new kenel on 2011 12 03 ) but on disk all is new: kernel and world. How to force to load kernel from second drive (without access to machine directly)? -- S uvazheniem, Kon'kov [2]mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru References 1. mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru 2. mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 08:14:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C701065678 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6061D8FC1A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so6495764bkb.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:14:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=B0ezk0v7qHogNJmc0hxoXOBZeF3znSPZrJ/TA4wE3QA=; b=IsK69mlrIFixpf/flg/qdpl1FhUlcKvLUO6/aiFRI1H8FBwcgt7RHtgCUoTFZy09yT qi76z8Inc6799pq5xv406ou6bXc9pCMr0VRrcSVFQUfZmd26++arbpA1FeEIzpNFkSKV 03Jk7f6lBLv8h6iXgM9be9LDzPpB+XvtyeX6M= Received: by 10.204.136.220 with SMTP id s28mr9572062bkt.59.1323677671400; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:14:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.82.70 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:13:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE5A8F5.9080807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4EE4B445.80904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE5A8F5.9080807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: saeedeh motlagh Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:43:49 +0330 Message-ID: To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bridging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:14:34 -0000 yes, with any two interfaces the bridge works well. tcpdump show these messages when i configure bridge with more than 2 interfaces: 14:52:57.771505 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, length 46 14:52:57.771519 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui Unknown), length 46 14:52:58.788076 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, length 46 14:52:58.788095 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui Unknown), length 46 14:52:59.804630 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, length 46 14:52:59.804646 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui Unknown), length 46 14:53:00.821083 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, length 46 14:53:00.821098 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui Unknown), length 46 14:53:01.837654 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, length 46 14:53:01.837672 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui Unknown), length 46 it seems that bridging just can be done by two interfaces:( i use "ifconfig bridge0 create" and "ifconfig addm igb1 addm igb2" for bridging two interfaces. i test by putting the below commands in rc.conf file: cloned_interfaces="bridge0" ifconfig_bridge0="addm igb1 addm igb2 addm gbeth1 up" but nothing changed. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Da Rock < freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > On 12/12/11 15:49, saeedeh motlagh wrote: > >> my freebsd is 8.2 and i have four interfaces which two of them are gbeth >> and two others are igb. i think the interfaces are ok beacuse when i >> bridge >> two interfaces, it works fine. >> i use the below command to create my bridge: >> ifconfig bridge0 create >> ifconfig bridge0 addm gbeth0 addm igb0 addm igb1 addm gbeth1 up >> what is wrong here? it's so necessary for me to doing this:( >> > Is it any 2 interfaces? What command do you use to get the 2 interfaces > working? > >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Da Rock< >> freebsd-questions@**herveybayaustralia.com.au> >> wrote: >> >> On 12/11/11 23:31, saeedeh motlagh wrote: >>> >>> hello everybody >>>> i have a problem in bridging my interfaces. i want to bridge my 4 >>>> interfaces and make switching in freebsd box but in doesn't work. with >>>> two >>>> interfaces the bridge works well and pass the traffic but for four >>>> interfaces in doesn't what is expected. you know i want to have a >>>> freebsd >>>> sysytem to do switching between four systems which are connected to. >>>> somebody know what's wrong? and how i can bridge my four interfaces and >>>> have switching? >>>> thanks >>>> motlagh >>>> >>>> Can you supply information on what devices you are using for your >>>> >>> switches? Ifconfig, pciconf -lv >>> >>> Which version are you using? uname -a >>> >>> What commands are you using to setup switching? >>> >>> What diagnostics have you done? How do you know it doesn't work? >>> >>> Good luck. I'm sure someone can help if you provide that information, >>> although they may need more. >>> ______________________________****_________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/****mailman/listinfo/freebsd-****questions >>> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>> >" >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 08:22:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7168E106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@canmos.ru) Received: from sta1.canmos.ru (sta1.canmos.ru [89.107.124.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64C68FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sta1.canmos.ru (sta1.canmos.ru [89.107.124.11]) by sta1.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB76127A43; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:03:06 +0400 (MSK) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:03:06 +0400 (MSK) From: "Igor V. Ruzanov" To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= In-Reply-To: <786057323.20111212094846@yandex.ru> Message-ID: References: <179332448.20111211224116@yandex.ru> <786057323.20111212094846@yandex.ru> X-GPG-PUBLIC-KEY: 1024D/494AF6DC 2008-03-20 Igor V. Ruzanov X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: A723 B6CC 11ED A4E2 1909 C4DC 6EDE 9089 494A F6DC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1800997756-1146564513-1323676986=:24648" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, krad Subject: Re[2]: How to boot new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:22:54 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1800997756-1146564513-1323676986=:24648 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA wrote: | | HI, krad. | | How I can figure out the correspondence of bios drive number and | freebsd numbering? | | > | | Have a look at boot.config file you should be able to do something | there | | On Dec 11, 2011 8:57 PM, "Kon'kov Evgenij" <[1]kes-kes@yandex.ru> | wrote: | | Hi Freebsd-questions. | | In system two disks now: | | # kenv | grep dev | | currdev=3D"disk1s1a:" | | loaddev=3D"disk1s1a:" | | loader_conf_files=3D"/boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf | /boot/loader.conf.local" | | vfs.root.mountfrom=3D"ufs:/dev/ad8s1a" | | kern.devalias.ada0=3D"ad4" | | kern.devalias.ada1=3D"ad8" | | one was with installed FreeBSD (ad4) and second is empty (ad8) | | I install new system to ad8 and add to (ad4) /boot/loader.conf next | line: | | vfs.root.mountfrom=3D"ufs:/dev/ad8s1a" | | so next time I booted from second hdd. | | But now I have problem. | | How to boot kernel from second device instead of first one. | | BIOS starts to run loader from first device (ad4) and kernel is booted | | from it but all other is mounted from (ad8) | | # df -h | | Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on | | /dev/ad8s1a 1G 117M 809M 13% / | | devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /dev | | /dev/ad8s1e 1G 267M 660M 29% /tmp | | /dev/ad8s1f 39G 23G 13G 64% /usr | | /dev/ad8s1d 5.8G 3.9G 1.5G 72% /var | | procfs 4.0k 4.0k 0B 100% /proc | | devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /var/named/dev | | so in memory I have old kenel | | uname -a shows that #0: Sat Nov 12 20:17:02 EET 2011 | | (I have compiled new kenel on 2011 12 03 ) | | but on disk all is new: kernel and world. | | How to force to load kernel from second drive (without access to | | machine directly)? | You can specify an alternative slice on the next boot: boot0cfg -s XXX adYYY where XXX - slice number, YYY - disk number +-------------------------------------------+ ! 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Ruzanov, network operational staff! ! e-Mail: igorr@canmos.ru ! +-------------------------------------------+ --1800997756-1146564513-1323676986=:24648-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 08:56:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4541065670 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6908FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so6560190bkb.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:56:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=brSzcLK38Rqeaj2FnLtCblXUxg7Mndh2WkR9jCtlCfY=; b=mkS+u9qWwf2F/GK2pAARU5T4WYpvlx2XEK9BQ5+BbUaMsnD7krLF1v96vrI3AwYn3a u8GKam2wkcWE6qUtcIvTr+bIo8GM4rq97c7cvycJlvZj+kZZJr1Xbzu484SOqIc3NFT6 +DoEUdHdFvnhzG4hBfpY7rSb9GQqHjr/GBpCM= Received: by 10.205.137.144 with SMTP id io16mr9506895bkc.23.1323680192386; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:56:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.82.70 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:55:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EE4B445.80904@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE5A8F5.9080807@herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: saeedeh motlagh Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:25:51 +0330 Message-ID: To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bridging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:56:34 -0000 i solve it:) the stp should be running on all interfaces On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, saeedeh motlagh wrote: > yes, with any two interfaces the bridge works well. tcpdump show these > messages when i configure bridge with more than 2 interfaces: > 14:52:57.771505 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, > length 46 > 14:52:57.771519 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui > Unknown), length 46 > 14:52:58.788076 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, > length 46 > 14:52:58.788095 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui > Unknown), length 46 > 14:52:59.804630 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, > length 46 > 14:52:59.804646 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui > Unknown), length 46 > 14:53:00.821083 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, > length 46 > 14:53:00.821098 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui > Unknown), length 46 > 14:53:01.837654 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.4.157 tell 192.168.4.155, > length 46 > 14:53:01.837672 ARP, Reply 192.168.4.157 is-at 00:0b:ab:4f:d4:2a (oui > Unknown), length 46 > > it seems that bridging just can be done by two interfaces:( > i use "ifconfig bridge0 create" and "ifconfig addm igb1 addm igb2" for > bridging two interfaces. i test by putting the below commands in rc.conf > file: > cloned_interfaces="bridge0" > ifconfig_bridge0="addm igb1 addm igb2 addm gbeth1 up" > but nothing changed. > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Da Rock < > freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > >> On 12/12/11 15:49, saeedeh motlagh wrote: >> >>> my freebsd is 8.2 and i have four interfaces which two of them are gbeth >>> and two others are igb. i think the interfaces are ok beacuse when i >>> bridge >>> two interfaces, it works fine. >>> i use the below command to create my bridge: >>> ifconfig bridge0 create >>> ifconfig bridge0 addm gbeth0 addm igb0 addm igb1 addm gbeth1 up >>> what is wrong here? it's so necessary for me to doing this:( >>> >> Is it any 2 interfaces? What command do you use to get the 2 interfaces >> working? >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Da Rock< >>> freebsd-questions@**herveybayaustralia.com.au> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/11/11 23:31, saeedeh motlagh wrote: >>>> >>>> hello everybody >>>>> i have a problem in bridging my interfaces. i want to bridge my 4 >>>>> interfaces and make switching in freebsd box but in doesn't work. with >>>>> two >>>>> interfaces the bridge works well and pass the traffic but for four >>>>> interfaces in doesn't what is expected. you know i want to have a >>>>> freebsd >>>>> sysytem to do switching between four systems which are connected to. >>>>> somebody know what's wrong? and how i can bridge my four interfaces and >>>>> have switching? >>>>> thanks >>>>> motlagh >>>>> >>>>> Can you supply information on what devices you are using for your >>>>> >>>> switches? Ifconfig, pciconf -lv >>>> >>>> Which version are you using? uname -a >>>> >>>> What commands are you using to setup switching? >>>> >>>> What diagnostics have you done? How do you know it doesn't work? >>>> >>>> Good luck. I'm sure someone can help if you provide that information, >>>> although they may need more. >>>> ______________________________****_________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/****mailman/listinfo/freebsd-****questions >>>> >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >>>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>>> >" >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 10:04:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A21A106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203548FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so6670565bkb.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:04:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=twIgDFY+N2+eqsoibg7iG4pV4AN++DglE3jAFDmL7QU=; b=KrvUL40lrbWUDTZAokATEWDtrS7mVwWqK1u4BvJ+wb0vtQr7oNeSaqpVQFlUWEvY74 SF8IIfE2D1j6CfUeqgD553IqTl/HWdznrnq/M9SIS8WVw1ln2v3CjqiHm4Z+B6+UHhkP SCTYROr7M7+5YTXMNLQ9DTypZA3D/4vb60NmI= Received: by 10.204.155.65 with SMTP id r1mr9165590bkw.110.1323682817760; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from green.tandem.local (utwig.xim.bz. [91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5sm30300546bkv.9.2011.12.12.01.40.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:40:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE5CBFE.9050908@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:40:14 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111111 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Mullins References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM configuration to allow passwords from both Unix and Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:04:05 -0000 10.12.2011 04:22, Matt Mullins wrote: > For my systems, the canonical source of authentication information is > a Kerberos server, but I also want to support old-fashioned Unix > passwords for a handful of users (including myself) just in case the > Kerberos system is unreachable. I'm having a bit of trouble adjusting > to the semantics of FreeBSD's PAM configuration, it seems. The > following is what I have tried in /etc/pam.d/sshd: > > auth optional pam_deny.so > auth sufficient pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass > auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass Why you just haven't changed the last line to `required`? > This does what I want: tries Unix authentication, and for most users, > then goes and tries Kerberos authentication. However, it also seems > to allow access if the module does something other than success or > failure: I hit ^D at the SSH password prompt and it grants me access! > Adding "debug" to these lines doesn't seem to get anything additional > logged, so I'm actually not sure why PAM ends up with a success code > somewhere. > > I flipped this logic around and did: > > auth sufficient pam_unix.so no_warn > auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass > auth required pam_deny.so That's not what you want. Read pam_deny(8). It has no use for real world scenarios except when something goes weird. > This does exactly what I want for services like sudo, that just use > pam_authenticate(), but since "sufficient" is equivalent to "optional" > in pam_setcred(), sshd fails all authentications with: > Dec 9 15:05:18 boron-shell sshd[66617]: fatal: PAM: pam_setcred(): > failed to retrieve user credentials > > I am completely stumped how to get this behavior working for both > pam_authenticate and pam_setcred calls. Can someone enlighten me what > a more normal way to do this would be? Why just don't get stock `/usr/src/etc/pam.d/sshd` and uncomment anything related to kerberos? That's quite simple unlike managing `su`. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 10:26:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8C61065672 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208B88FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbg20 with SMTP id g20so4986169ghb.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:26:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tDU+gkVr4xwGFC9P6ka/rn33VGXH4UuILY9PWTY6aVs=; b=S82Q8v/NTvGDvupCixbWCwuIfJURNUsGDf/iVAwXiz2WlSrfuT+XK3KT0eMI+t/nTy sJsGLWY4dz+jMQTxTgL1vAI6jobV1PFJIi9kvxjqJfcCTJM6m431zhdNNnz3nNwqQmYn rUwXIXvK6tIAekVk+YTrfRaCML1MXxKnp5j0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.189.34 with SMTP id r34mr235042anp.102.1323685607943; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.111.134 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:26:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:26:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Demelier To: Michael Ross Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Certain users can't start python X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:26:49 -0000 2011/12/12 Michael Ross : > Hello, > > I am ... stuck. > > I've been trying to setup mercurials web frontend with apache, > but apache won't start python. > Not as cgi-script, not with mod_python. > > Investigating, I found this not only to be a problem with apache. > > Situation now: > Users "michael" and "root" can run python. > All others can't: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Could not find platform independent libraries = > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Could not find platform dependent libraries > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:] > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ImportError: No module named site > > > For troubleshooting, I cloned "michael" to an new user "dummy", > i. e. I created the user, copied all .dotfiles from "michael" over, > adjusted permissions. > "dummy" can't start python either. > How did dou clone the account ? Does account has a full correct home path in /etc/passwd ? > Changing accounts with su does not help: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0dummy$ su -l michael > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0dummy$ su -m michael > *both* can run python, > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0michael$ su -l dummy > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0michael$ su -m dummy > *both* can not run python. > > Setting PYTHONHOME does not help -- the libraries are found (probably, > the error messages disappear), the ImportError remains. > > It's been a couple of long days and maybe I'm missing something obvious? > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > 8.2 stable, python 2.7.2. > As for python, I tried reinstalling. No change. > > TIA > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" cheers, --=20 Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:20:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F991065678 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2ED28FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.5.199] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra4sE-0006Eo-R2; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:20:50 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "David Demelier" References: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:20:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14116/Mon Dec 12 03:33:42 2011) Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Certain users can't start python X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:20:53 -0000 Am 12.12.2011, 11:26 Uhr, schrieb David Demelier : > 2011/12/12 Michael Ross : >> Hello, >> >> I am ... stuck. >> >> I've been trying to setup mercurials web frontend with apache, >> but apache won't start python. >> Not as cgi-script, not with mod_python. >> >> Investigating, I found this not only to be a problem with apache. >> >> Situation now: >> Users "michael" and "root" can run python. >> All others can't: >> >> Could not find platform independent libraries >> Could not find platform dependent libraries >> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:] >> ImportError: No module named site >> >> >> For troubleshooting, I cloned "michael" to an new user "dummy", >> i. e. I created the user, copied all .dotfiles from "michael" over, >> adjusted permissions. >> "dummy" can't start python either. >> > > How did dou clone the account ? Does account has a full correct home > path in /etc/passwd ? Created with adduser, copied .cshrc .profile & the lot over. Yes, it has a correct home dir. I can ssh into it from another machine without trouble. > >> Changing accounts with su does not help: >> dummy$ su -l michael >> dummy$ su -m michael >> *both* can run python, >> >> michael$ su -l dummy >> michael$ su -m dummy >> *both* can not run python. >> >> Setting PYTHONHOME does not help -- the libraries are found (probably, >> the error messages disappear), the ImportError remains. >> >> It's been a couple of long days and maybe I'm missing something obvious? >> Any input would be greatly appreciated. >> >> 8.2 stable, python 2.7.2. >> As for python, I tried reinstalling. No change. >> >> TIA >> >> Michael >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > cheers, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:53:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87678106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kowalczfbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6B8FC21 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekc50 with SMTP id c50so3197370eek.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:53:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=DrPwq4/8hJ2JC4FdxeYyTGjvBLs9SZdU6Z4Xb4PzZFg=; b=ESB0hhtDZclULSzz+/qMOCsv3ASq31UMzeMaWQDiwj//RdRiM2nU2Sd6kZKpJqEhvQ LEmGyGCkEGBxPIwXUAthcG3DKwP9TY14vx/lzxhQLgoLjCtfM+bl7OpulJ5YlGLfPOg6 dxQUB3aISGmJ8oMhhKYUBtwgHpR1fazMO4VbU= Received: by 10.14.8.16 with SMTP id 16mr2582722eeq.246.1323692557734; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from wymiot.localnet (87-207-35-49.dynamic.chello.pl. [87.207.35.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a60sm74681460eeb.4.2011.12.12.04.22.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:22:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tomasz Kowalczyk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:22:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201112121322.33850.kowalczfbsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Certain users can't start python X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:53:13 -0000 On Monday 12 of December 2011 06:31:46 Michael Ross wrote: > Hello, > > I am ... stuck. > > I've been trying to setup mercurials web frontend with apache, > but apache won't start python. > Not as cgi-script, not with mod_python. > > Investigating, I found this not only to be a problem with apache. > > Situation now: > Users "michael" and "root" can run python. > All others can't: > > Could not find platform independent libraries > Could not find platform dependent libraries > Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:] > ImportError: No module named site > > > For troubleshooting, I cloned "michael" to an new user "dummy", > i. e. I created the user, copied all .dotfiles from "michael" over, > adjusted permissions. > "dummy" can't start python either. Is user 'dummy' in same groups that 'michael' is ? I think it can be something with permissions, maybe files in /local/lib/python2.7/ got strange permissions ? Basically module 'site' (site.py in detail) is loaded by interpreter on early start, so if it can't read it , python will raise this error. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 13:26:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C705106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131BD8FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.5.199] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ra5tO-0005tP-0V; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:26:06 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Tomasz Kowalczyk" References: <201112121322.33850.kowalczfbsd@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:25:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201112121322.33850.kowalczfbsd@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14116/Mon Dec 12 03:33:42 2011) Cc: Subject: Re: Certain users can't start python X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:26:07 -0000 Am 12.12.2011, 13:22 Uhr, schrieb Tomasz Kowalczyk : > On Monday 12 of December 2011 06:31:46 Michael Ross wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am ... stuck. >> >> I've been trying to setup mercurials web frontend with apache, >> but apache won't start python. >> Not as cgi-script, not with mod_python. >> >> Investigating, I found this not only to be a problem with apache. >> >> Situation now: >> Users "michael" and "root" can run python. >> All others can't: >> >> Could not find platform independent libraries >> Could not find platform dependent libraries >> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:] >> ImportError: No module named site >> >> >> For troubleshooting, I cloned "michael" to an new user "dummy", >> i. e. I created the user, copied all .dotfiles from "michael" over, >> adjusted permissions. >> "dummy" can't start python either. > > Is user 'dummy' in same groups that 'michael' is ? No, it wasn't. I forgot to add it to the "wheel" group. ("Missing something obvious" alright). > I think it can be something with permissions, maybe files in > /local/lib/python2.7/ got strange permissions ? That was it: /usr/local/lib/python2.7 was chmodded 770. No idea why. Thanks! > Basically module 'site' (site.py in detail) is loaded by interpreter on > early > start, so if it can't read it , python will raise this error. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:39:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16652106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83368FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local ([10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBCHdrIQ057497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:39:53 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4EE63C67.6090704@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:39:51 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ath0 + wlan0 + spa + Apple Airport Extreme => No Joy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:39:56 -0000 On 11/12/2011 19:31, Christopher Hilton wrote: > Good day, > > I'm trying to get FreeBSD going on a soekris box with an atheros based D-Link PCI wifi card. I intend to use this combination to bridge a difficult network back to ethernet but right now I'm just trying to get the soekris associated to the network. The network is managed by an Apple Airport Extreme. Note that this combination connects just fine to my MiFi 4082. I only have a problem connecting to the Airport. > > The soekris box is running FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE built from source about 11/15/2011. > > I have this in my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: > > network={ > ssid="Vindaloo" > psk="************" > } > > network={ > ssid="Vindaloo-Mobile" > psk="**********" > } > > If I read the wireless setup document right I need this in my /etc/rc.conf: > > wlans_ath0="wlan0" > ifconfig_wlan0="ssid Vindaloo WPA DHCP" > > This box appears to associate with the network just fine but then it doesn't receive anything except broadcast traffic. > If you then manually run dhclient wlan0 once its booted and associated do you get a DHCP address? Vince > > Chris Hilton e: chris /at/ vindaloo /dot/ com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "All I was doing was trying to get home from work!" > -- Rosa Parks > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 18:10:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661191065670 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50F38FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so7407421bkb.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:09:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YZNSqrk9mVkAZmIiySrd2bbzNx30RWnCKwwAdp13gO0=; b=csYa9fPr28RTi6hePqUqqM8YWLd/QMj6H/Y7y+LVwicuUdwrGPC+fAXSyayq2nw3ZZ rssQFQiUDLA+ZhWvTzWkYJGrhmFwxV1PnUiSGkIGkg2ZCB4Hr0wubplu+MPC0+lG/YJi RYFHtA65QUM9ugf56UdR0DBiO3IYqDfvtkbjg= Received: by 10.205.131.13 with SMTP id ho13mr10837992bkc.41.1323713398636; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d2sm33779833bky.11.2011.12.12.10.09.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:09:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:09:53 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111212180953.2bc4af97@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE442DC.7080107@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE3DA85.4070903@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20111211002348.56497fde@gumby.homeunix.com> <4EE442DC.7080107@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:10:00 -0000 On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:42:52 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > On 12/11/11 10:23, RW wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:17:41 +1000 > > Da Rock wrote: > > > > > >>> SUJ speeds up the check a lot, seconds as opposed to minutes. If > >>> something happens to the journal, it falls back to a standard > >>> fsck. > >> But fsck needs to be run manually- I have users that can't do that, > >> and the filesystem corrupts. Ergo gjournal; it boots up and fixes > >> on the fly. So SU+J needs a manual fsck before booting proper or > >> can it just boot and be done? > > It's not very different; gjournal and SU both attempt to leave the > > filesystem in an coherent state, but both still need a preen to > > recover lost space. In either case the preen can fail requiring a > > full fsck. > > > > Journalled SU make SU behave more like gjournal in that you can do a > > fast foreground check which avoids the lengthy background fsck and > > avoids deferring the handling of unexpected inconsistencies to the > > next boot. > > > Yes, but I don't do a fsck to recover gjournal- it has a miniscule > blurp for a nanosecond and prints a message at boot and thats it. If the filesystem is mounted via fstab the fsck is normally done automatically. You may not have noticed this because if nothing needs doing fsck_ufs can mark a gjournal filesystem clean instantaneously. There are two other possibilities. The first is that it may spend some time recovering orphaned files; this is much faster that a full fsck but it's still seconds or minutes. The second is that the journal sync may have failed in which case fsck terminates with "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY" which requires a full fsck. This is similar to SU. In either case you only need a full fsck when things haven't worked out in line with the theory. > Is > it the same with su+j? If it does then I'll drop gjournal (and the > performance hit) and I'll use su+j when I jump to 9.0. The SU equivalent of the journal sync is done before the crash happens. With SU you can have an instantaneous foreground fsck by deferring the recovery of lost files until the background check that runs after bootup. Journalling SU eliminates the few minutes of sluggish disk IO that that can cause. I've been disappointed by gjournal, the performance hit isn't as bad as background fsck but it is substantial and permanent, rather than a few minutes hare and there. I was hoping that gjournal would be more robust, but I've seen the occassional "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY" just like I have with SU. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 18:35:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F95B106575D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokomull@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028298FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so11887113wgb.31 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s+XIMunYez3jx0GilTiJpj8L8fzOOknjHpXUJk27L2c=; b=G4uH4NcczEF0vBbcfovD4HKY6tFCYMgzSV+GTEyVctG2QITye3pe8wSlyxU/x+w8sN 0ZLqGo/UnOQlr5/mJkzUTIdiha+LlSLvGWGvo6JiDNPVVZM+bcgt2yeNvLSpP7lNNDH2 P4IXoW6nmaAuYI/n+6cRNYWL5RnwafMWBYWqI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.182.193 with SMTP id o43mr3363499wem.87.1323714953930; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.154.135 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE5CBFE.9050908@gmail.com> References: <4EE5CBFE.9050908@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:53 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Mullins To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM configuration to allow passwords from both Unix and Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:35:55 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wro= te: > 10.12.2011 04:22, Matt Mullins wrote: >> auth optional =A0 pam_deny.so >> auth sufficient pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass >> auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass > > > Why you just haven't changed the last line to `required`? I did try that, but I omitted it due to completely failing behavior. pam_krb5.so returns failure during pam_setcred() if the user did not log in with Kerberos credentials, whereas pam_unix.so succeeds as long as the uid exists (I'm using nss_ldap for that part, so all the uids do indeed exist). Thus, pam_unix.so will work with "required", but pam_krb5.so won't. > Why just don't get stock `/usr/src/etc/pam.d/sshd` and uncomment anything > related to kerberos? That's quite simple unlike managing `su`. That's pretty much what I did. I'm a little unhappy since pam_krb5.so is before pam_unix.so in the list, so if the KDC goes down I have to wait for a time-out to log in to my system... but that's always better than letting anyone in :) Thanks for your help, Matt Mullins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:18:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6F4106566B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pulley@dabus.com) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8DC8FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (localhost.dabus.com [127.0.0.1]) by aegir.dabus.com (Processor) with ESMTP id 955605F2CD for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:00:30 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; b=aMEDvs8NKtLMejtbll1KAKDw1VLNt1zB6qWgvPtWOf9/SK5gZlsFcvqXuBcleLc//1udjz2Hy6YdNk0GofJEK2LOudLPqUK/YZc3hbHLhBB0BoHOFP73Bat5xQSPY8dSxZcnCHcxorBqYuERud1kROK/a58o0oezqcn40vwj0L4=; c=nofws; d=dabus.com; q=dns; s=aegir1 Received: from webmail.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by aegir.dabus.com (Dabus) with ESMTPA id 9ED9C5F2B6 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:00:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from 131.77.1.84 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pulley) by webmail.dabus.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:00:29 -0700 Message-ID: <4989a3ebb7810ed26951cbbd23b7645c.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:00:29 -0700 From: "Eric S Pulley" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:18:38 -0000 > > As for one big / partition- linux may be using it: and its their biggest > failing! I've had a system lockup due to lack of space. Never a problem > with bsd as logs will only fill up var, a user won't break it with > filling up usr, etc. And root always stays protected! Its saved my life > a number of times... I can quickly fill TB's of data in no time, and if > something goes bang the logs can be a silent killer too. My 2c's anyway... > _______________________________________________ > And along those lines for security of the system, this is the U.S. DoD recommendations (well mandates really) including ZFS. Not that the DoD doesn’t have security problems... but I’m not big fan of the one or two mount point solution either… never understood why other OS packagers think is okay to just dump it all under / Per the DISA STIG (Security Technical Implementation Guide) / (obviously) / /var /tmp / should all be separate mount points "The use of separate file systems for different paths can protect the system from failures resulting from a file system becoming full or failing"... in addition... All local file systems must employ journaling or another mechanism that ensures file system consistency. Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does not contain approved device files must be mounted with the "nodev" option. Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does not contain approved setuid files must be mounted with the "nosuid" option. The nosuid option must be enabled on all NFS client mounts. and so on... you can find a copy of the UNIX STIG online and some of it is just crazy paranoia and makes your life a pain, but there are a lot of good practices in it too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:58:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B619E106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from innervisionnetwork@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7213B8FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbbfr13 with SMTP id fr13so7002765vbb.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:58:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mH7LHe2/lMdt0rypdN4kZolHxO37kV2v3xG+5s20F/I=; b=Z12ItC6e+mdxUxdXdNRwzQ2IBsCkAjuhF2DYUZHDWOU6zPpwLjWlAcKGiVBU8amVWS sarnLRrtl9cWEC8QbbU6P/Jp76pkRfnkScLkqnH0DGBjOq2UkLWDH/v0d2MyZzEAvk89 p3Ct3OUGXlxe2YLI3uKcPOAGU/faTqRz+YFDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.222.106 with SMTP id ql10mr3370989obc.53.1323722164651; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.11.40 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:36:04 -0600 Message-ID: From: Daniel Lewis To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:58:02 -0000 Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:05:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D0C106568D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF1C8FC1C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id pBCL0SRJ042561; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:00:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id pBCL0S2g042560; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:00:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:00:28 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Daniel Lewis Message-ID: <20111212210028.GB42429@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:05:39 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:36:04PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It > was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. > Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. > Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? Well, the .iso files you get from the FreeBSD distribution are ISO image files that need to be burned directly to a disk. There is no other processing or formatting that may be done. I do not know what you mean by 'unzipped to a cd rom'. I have never done anything that sounded like that. You should just download the .iso file and burn in to a fresh cd and fixate it. Then boot it. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:10:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7C410656A7 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99E78FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3so1592205pbc.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dB6ahPZfU9h8Qcz9RqNEtOMHv2Ups/EbQLwqkGQb2ME=; b=jL+6udiSa5DUeXEZj+1jdAiJLisq82M+ZSdDwUtiSnaHiFFhf79P5t1UPi+CBqSwRK R+i3OCJhmz1xb+iznPOL44sq/25AUUFVUzLhwtdoo8IE3zCyWG4PK9He99q7+ezYK+7U NubyxZm+i+hiLaw18uPkuV/Mdb4EkrqVyRot4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.120.72 with SMTP id la8mr37730134pbb.56.1323724229409; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: pldrouin@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.0.131 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111212210028.GB42429@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20111212210028.GB42429@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:10:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ammpQrOW4u29e2zAUg0rZdH1qns Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: Daniel Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:10:30 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:36:04PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > >> Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It >> was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. >> Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. >> Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? > > Well, the .iso files you get from the FreeBSD distribution are ISO > image files that need to be burned directly to a disk. =A0There is no > other processing or formatting that may be done. > > I do not know what you mean by 'unzipped to a cd rom'. =A0I have never > done anything that sounded like that. > > You should just download the .iso file and burn in to a fresh cd > and fixate it. =A0Then boot it. > > ////jerry Yeah, there is nothing to "unzip". You need to simply burn the ISO image on a CD/DVD. Once it is burned you should look at the content of the CD/DVD and you should see the files that are part of the ISO image... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:56:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79655106566B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linnemannr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527C68FC19 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dakp5 with SMTP id p5so7562714dak.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:56:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QDycGl5xdnsFZeGxWTE3qRxzSQB6c4+zSDalN+AHO5M=; b=WJmRD8ydVX1nQpVKwdeBccBdIHee4kQqSxNep4FIsu++OMYKz7b8+aJe5S5n4QHgU+ Nbz/ob5eelLWCZFWQXfqUYkrJe0t04sa94eQgHMzKjn204Mo8kh7HJSdqKZFOUrvJax0 3vENIBcFLO9TRGDBskvi06HzalDBkQILveSeA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.72.100 with SMTP id c4mr37962244pbv.55.1323725668754; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:34:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: linnemannr@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.195.13 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:34:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111208164533.GA67774@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20111208164533.GA67774@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:34:28 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 20lJU5qqHdwnCQXAb9SAQo8Yi3Y Message-ID: From: Reid Linnemann To: "Michael W. Lucas" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:56:57 -0000 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > Hi, > > I'm attempting to hook security/pam_ssh_agent_auth into sudo, and have > learned that PAM doesn't work the way I thought it did. > > I'm running FreeBSD-9/i386, with sudo 1.7.2.6. > > My goal is that sudo pass all auth requests back to the users' SSH > agent. =A0Sudo should never use passwords for authentication. If the > user doesn't have an SSH agent, or if the SSH agent breaks somehow, > the sudo request is denied. > > With my current config, sudo requests are accepted without a password > even if the users' environment has no $SSH_AUTH_SOCK. I'm obviously > doing something wrong. > > Here's my pam.d/sudo. I removed password settings and required the > pam_ssh_agent_auth library. > > --- > #auth =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 include =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 system > auth =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0required =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/usr/local/lib/pam_ss= h_agent_auth.so file=3D~/.ssh/authorized\ > _keys > > # account > account =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 include =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 system > > # session > # XXX: pam_lastlog (used in system) causes users to appear as though > # they are no longer logged in in system logs. > session =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 required =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0pam_permit.so > > # password > #password =A0 =A0 =A0 include =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 system > --- > > Any suggestions what I'm doing wrong? > > Thanks, > =3D=3Dml > > -- > Michael W. Lucas > http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ > Latest book: Network Flow Analysis http://www.networkflowanalysis.com/ > mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org, Twitter @mwlauthor Make sure your sudoers file has Defaults env_keep +=3D "SSH_AUTH_SOCK" Also, make sure your matching rule for your user doesn't have NOPASSWD set. It seems that since you've already authenticated to the system, sudo still knows the user and/or group credentials without the pam module's help - all it does is authenticate the public and private keys. If you have NOPASSWD, sudo doesn't even think it needs to refer to the authentication mechanism because according to sudoers it needs no password for the user issuing the request. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 22:07:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BFE1065676 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mage@mage.hu) Received: from grs.hu (grs.hu [195.56.45.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25488FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by grs.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RaE2E-0001BZ-9w for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:07:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4EE67B31.2080101@mage.hu> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:07:45 +0100 From: Mage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111117 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: connection speed (Rails performance) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:07:48 -0000 Hello, it is my second attempt to switch from Gentoo to FreeBSD because: - if you google for FreeBSD you get sexy images of girls in red wear (turn safe search off) - I am a bit tired to upgrade my hardened servers - zfs supposed to work better and faster However I'am stuck at the same issue where I gave up half year ago. After setting up Ruby on Rails 3 (with rvm), Apache22 and Postgres, I ran some apache benchmarks and figured out that while FreeBSD wins at slow pages, at faster pages FreeBSD (for me) is way slower than Gentoo. A dynamic page: Gentoo: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 655654 $> Requests per second: 169.88 [#/sec] (mean) FreeBSD: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 655654 $> Requests per second: 59.31 [#/sec] (mean) A static page: $ echo hello > public/index.html Gentoo: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 655654 $> Requests per second: 25047.59 [#/sec] (mean) FreeBSD: # ab -n 1000 -c 12 http://randi7/ This is ApacheBench, Version 2.3 <$Revision: 655654 $> Requests per second: 6160.29 [#/sec] (mean) The faster the page is generated the bigger the difference is in requests per seconds. I experienced the very same results half year ago at my first attemp to migrate to FreeBSD. All tests were done with more or less current kernels (both systems). This is a totally fresh install on a different computer. Half year ago I tried all of apache, thin, mongrel, nginx and the outcome was same. I guess it might be something with the connection but I don't know what. Of course all tests were ran on localhosts. How could I improve this? Mage From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:21:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9519B1065673 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dermidio@holguin.inf.cu) Received: from mail2.ceniai.inf.cu (ceniai1.net.cu [169.158.128.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9178FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.ceniai.inf.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05AF2CA112 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.ceniai.inf.cu Received: from mail2.ceniai.inf.cu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.ceniai.inf.cu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tqm0mbeTu108 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.holguin.inf.cu (mail.holguin.inf.cu [169.158.142.196]) by mail2.ceniai.inf.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5252C9FA3 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [169.158.137.135] (unknown [169.158.137.135]) by mail.holguin.inf.cu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86875530421 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:43:32 -0500 (CST) Message-ID: <4EE69239.8040405@holguin.inf.cu> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:46:01 -0500 From: "Dermidio A.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101221 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111212210028.GB42429@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:21:49 -0000 Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:36:04PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: >> >>> Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It >>> was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. >>> Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. >>> Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? >>> >> Well, the .iso files you get from the FreeBSD distribution are ISO >> image files that need to be burned directly to a disk. There is no >> other processing or formatting that may be done. >> >> I do not know what you mean by 'unzipped to a cd rom'. I have never >> done anything that sounded like that. >> >> You should just download the .iso file and burn in to a fresh cd >> and fixate it. Then boot it. >> >> ////jerry >> > Yeah, there is nothing to "unzip". You need to simply burn the ISO > image on a CD/DVD. Once it is burned you should look at the content of > the CD/DVD and you should see the files that are part of the ISO > image... > > Hello, Daniel Lewis: If you come from Windows world, probably by "unzipping to a cd rom" you mean double-clicking the .iso file and burning to a cd the displayed content of the iso file. Please, don't do that. Just look for " burn image" in your cd burning program, navigate to your just downloaded .iso file and select it for burning. If you want to install 8.2 version, you only need to download and burn the file: FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and later, maybe you will need to burn (in the same way, better in different disks) the files: FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso and FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso Then (Backup all your data) insert the first cd (-disc1.iso), restart your PC and select booting from the cd drive. But first! Please read more detailed instructions, and *Warnings* in: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/install-pre.html Good luck, dermidio. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:30:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE351065676 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931E88FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id pBCN5TKY042979 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:05:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id pBCN5TEX042978 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:05:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:05:29 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:30:06 -0000 First of all, always include the list in a response to something from the list. Other people will be reading and may well know more than me or any other person who responds. eg, don't just send the follow-on question back to the one responding. Send it to the list. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:26:06PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > do direct ftp to disk? And what do you mean by fixate? No. You ftp the file down to the local machine and then use a CD burning utility to burn file to the CD. On FreeBSD there is one called 'burncd'. I am not familiar with the ones on a MS system, but there are several available. Maybe someone else will suggest one or there is probably some information in the handbook. Fixate is something that finishes writing a terminal record on the CD image or something like that. I don't really know in detail. I think some burner utilities do it automatically with no choice. The burncd utility needs to have you specify it. ////jerry > > On 12/12/11, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:36:04PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > > > >> Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It > >> was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. > >> Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. > >> Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? > > > > Well, the .iso files you get from the FreeBSD distribution are ISO > > image files that need to be burned directly to a disk. There is no > > other processing or formatting that may be done. > > > > I do not know what you mean by 'unzipped to a cd rom'. I have never > > done anything that sounded like that. > > > > You should just download the .iso file and burn in to a fresh cd > > and fixate it. Then boot it. > > > > ////jerry > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:57:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A630C1065673 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E6D8FC15 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 988B25C24 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:09:51 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE6943E.40400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:54:38 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4989a3ebb7810ed26951cbbd23b7645c.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> In-Reply-To: <4989a3ebb7810ed26951cbbd23b7645c.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:57:29 -0000 On 12/13/11 06:00, Eric S Pulley wrote: >> As for one big / partition- linux may be using it: and its their biggest >> failing! I've had a system lockup due to lack of space. Never a problem >> with bsd as logs will only fill up var, a user won't break it with >> filling up usr, etc. And root always stays protected! Its saved my life >> a number of times... I can quickly fill TB's of data in no time, and if >> something goes bang the logs can be a silent killer too. My 2c's anyway... >> _______________________________________________ >> > And along those lines for security of the system, this is the U.S. DoD > recommendations (well mandates really) including ZFS. Not that the DoD > doesn’t have security problems... but I’m not big fan of the one or two > mount point solution either… never understood why other OS packagers think > is okay to just dump it all under / > > Per the DISA STIG (Security Technical Implementation Guide) > > / (obviously) > / > /var > /tmp > / > > should all be separate mount points "The use of separate file systems for > different paths can protect the system from failures resulting from a file > system becoming full or failing"... > > in addition... > > All local file systems must employ journaling or another mechanism that > ensures file system consistency. > > Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does not > contain approved device files must be mounted with the "nodev" option. > > Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does not > contain approved setuid files must be mounted with the "nosuid" option. > > The nosuid option must be enabled on all NFS client mounts. > > and so on... you can find a copy of the UNIX STIG online and some of it is > just crazy paranoia and makes your life a pain, but there are a lot of > good practices in it too. > > I don't think any of it crazy paranoia. A PITA, maybe, but not paranoid. Do you have a link to the original of it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:58:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58390106564A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960288FC18 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBCNwYNO031130; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:34 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-125-39.as13285.net [92.22.125.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBCNwXUE031123; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:33 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5A94E33C1F; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:33 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20111212235833.GC69009@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:58:37 -0000 --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:05:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > First of all, always include the list in a response to something > from the list. Other people will be reading and may well know > more than me or any other person who responds. eg, don't just=20 > send the follow-on question back to the one responding. Send it > to the list. >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:26:06PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: >=20 > > do direct ftp to disk? And what do you mean by fixate? >=20 > No. You ftp the file down to the local machine and then use a CD burning= =20 > utility to burn file to the CD. On FreeBSD there is one called 'burncd'. > I am not familiar with the ones on a MS system, but there are several > available. Maybe someone else will suggest one or there is probably > some information in the handbook. >=20 > Fixate is something that finishes writing a terminal record on > the CD image or something like that. I don't really know in > detail. I think some burner utilities do it automatically with > no choice. The burncd utility needs to have you specify it. >=20 > ////jerry >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > On 12/12/11, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:36:04PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > > > > > >> Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It > > >> was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. > > >> Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. > > >> Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? > > > > > > Well, the .iso files you get from the FreeBSD distribution are ISO > > > image files that need to be burned directly to a disk. There is no > > > other processing or formatting that may be done. > > > > > > I do not know what you mean by 'unzipped to a cd rom'. I have never > > > done anything that sounded like that. > > > > > > You should just download the .iso file and burn in to a fresh cd > > > and fixate it. Then boot it. > > > > > > ////jerry > > > I've used Nero in the past on a Windows system to burn an ISO. You can download it (probably timebombed) from http://www.tucows.com/ I think. Instructions on burning and fixating are here: http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7mlSgACgkQHduKvUAgeK7SBwCeNRCXi3Va6K+POcLaQJyHGboT ROQAoLp0e+prbBmBMOTRqF3ylncUMUc9 =bxSc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tqI+Z3u+9OQ7kwn0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:06:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF481065678 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD8B8FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 747A65C24 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:18:37 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE6964D.8080201@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:03:25 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE3DA85.4070903@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20111211002348.56497fde@gumby.homeunix.com> <4EE442DC.7080107@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20111212180953.2bc4af97@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20111212180953.2bc4af97@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:06:15 -0000 On 12/13/11 04:09, RW wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:42:52 +1000 > Da Rock wrote: > >> On 12/11/11 10:23, RW wrote: >>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:17:41 +1000 >>> Da Rock wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> SUJ speeds up the check a lot, seconds as opposed to minutes. If >>>>> something happens to the journal, it falls back to a standard >>>>> fsck. >>>> But fsck needs to be run manually- I have users that can't do that, >>>> and the filesystem corrupts. Ergo gjournal; it boots up and fixes >>>> on the fly. So SU+J needs a manual fsck before booting proper or >>>> can it just boot and be done? >>> It's not very different; gjournal and SU both attempt to leave the >>> filesystem in an coherent state, but both still need a preen to >>> recover lost space. In either case the preen can fail requiring a >>> full fsck. >>> >>> Journalled SU make SU behave more like gjournal in that you can do a >>> fast foreground check which avoids the lengthy background fsck and >>> avoids deferring the handling of unexpected inconsistencies to the >>> next boot. >>> >> Yes, but I don't do a fsck to recover gjournal- it has a miniscule >> blurp for a nanosecond and prints a message at boot and thats it. > > > If the filesystem is mounted via fstab the fsck is normally done > automatically. You may not have noticed this because if nothing needs > doing fsck_ufs can mark a gjournal filesystem clean instantaneously. > > There are two other possibilities. The first is that it may spend some > time recovering orphaned files; this is much faster that a full fsck > but it's still seconds or minutes. The second is that the journal sync > may have failed in which case fsck terminates with "UNEXPECTED > INCONSISTENCY" which requires a full fsck. This is similar to SU. In > either case you only need a full fsck when things haven't worked out in > line with the theory. > > >> Is >> it the same with su+j? If it does then I'll drop gjournal (and the >> performance hit) and I'll use su+j when I jump to 9.0. > The SU equivalent of the journal sync is done before the crash > happens. With SU you can have an instantaneous foreground fsck by > deferring the recovery of lost files until the background check that > runs after bootup. Journalling SU eliminates the few minutes > of sluggish disk IO that that can cause. > > I've been disappointed by gjournal, the performance hit isn't as bad as > background fsck but it is substantial and permanent, rather than a few > minutes hare and there. I was hoping that gjournal would be more robust, > but I've seen the occassional "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY" just like I > have with SU. > This is going to sound odd, I know, but what does your fstab look like with gjournal? I've only done /var and /usr like this: /dev/ad4s1e.journal /usr ufs rw,async 2 2 The only message that comes up for me after a crash is "consistent" or "clean". No wait, no fsck. The performance isn't exactly lightning though... :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:14:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C44E1065673 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A288FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD3BB5C26 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:26:58 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE69843.1040108@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:11:47 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20111212235833.GC69009@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20111212235833.GC69009@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:14:36 -0000 On 12/13/11 09:58, Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:05:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> First of all, always include the list in a response to something >> from the list. Other people will be reading and may well know >> more than me or any other person who responds. eg, don't just >> send the follow-on question back to the one responding. Send it >> to the list. >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:26:06PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: >> >>> do direct ftp to disk? And what do you mean by fixate? >> No. You ftp the file down to the local machine and then use a CD burning >> utility to burn file to the CD. On FreeBSD there is one called 'burncd'. >> I am not familiar with the ones on a MS system, but there are several >> available. Maybe someone else will suggest one or there is probably >> some information in the handbook. >> >> Fixate is something that finishes writing a terminal record on >> the CD image or something like that. I don't really know in >> detail. I think some burner utilities do it automatically with >> no choice. The burncd utility needs to have you specify it. >> >> ////jerry >> >> >>> On 12/12/11, Jerry McAllister wrote: >>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:36:04PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: >>>> >>>>> Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It >>>>> was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. >>>>> Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. >>>>> Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? >>>> Well, the .iso files you get from the FreeBSD distribution are ISO >>>> image files that need to be burned directly to a disk. There is no >>>> other processing or formatting that may be done. >>>> >>>> I do not know what you mean by 'unzipped to a cd rom'. I have never >>>> done anything that sounded like that. >>>> >>>> You should just download the .iso file and burn in to a fresh cd >>>> and fixate it. Then boot it. >>>> >>>> ////jerry >>>> > I've used Nero in the past on a Windows system to burn an ISO. You can > download it (probably timebombed) from http://www.tucows.com/ I think. > > Instructions on burning and fixating are here: > > http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm > > > Regards, > Depending on your windows (xp and later) it should be built-in (only a very basic one though). Double click and it should give an option to burn the disk. Once its completed, voila! You have the ultimate weapon in the computing world! Sorry... got carried away, but nearly accurate though :) - you have a bootable disk to install FreeBSD 8.2. Mostly you'll only need disk 1. The others have pkg files for certain applications, but you can download those as you need them automatically using pkg_add -r and connected to the internet. That way you get the updated versions as well. Better yet: try the ports instead. For more info on either check out the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/. Good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:15:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3DC1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noeldude@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F148FC1D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnp1 with SMTP id p1so8402355ggn.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:15:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X0E1pPylsrpdIYDbzdUFapLlREL90prBHn3AW3BWvsA=; b=xy6Tn6ZX+923BsbT2Zq7lWbgVD9rtowrxRKWNhzrG4OZYWlr1LQaApwdVXDDVJjCyS JNYDmjIIMQIYJgyIC56VgN9JTZ2QuLAHLS8KwTr2eCUUZxIof/RHclLLcDpbRUeeiVq5 aCG7Kodl4GPz1udCAJmRWWcMJPyb2DAThLJys= Received: by 10.236.153.226 with SMTP id f62mr457711yhk.62.1323733729688; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.70.197] ([12.107.221.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11sm23320821anc.11.2011.12.12.15.48.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:48:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE692DF.1000604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:47 -0600 From: Noel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:15:35 -0000 On 12/12/2011 5:05 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:26:06PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: >> do direct ftp to disk? And what do you mean by fixate? > No. You ftp the file down to the local machine and then use a CD burning > utility to burn file to the CD. Daniel, An ISO file is basically a "snapshot" of a CD (or DVD or BlueRay) disc. You need special software to burn the image to a CD. Do NOT open the ISO file and copy the contents to a CD; that won't work. Windows 7 includes the ability to burn an iso; right-click the .iso file and pick "Burn disc image". For WinXP/Vista (or if you want a little more control in Win7), you need an iso burner program. Here's a free one I've used this in the past: http://www.ntfs.com/iso_burner_free.htm -- Noel Jones From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 01:45:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DC4106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwinlculp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670958FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so8066240bkb.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:45:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iTaD0XBPtqnJckaArth2ROMT/dsAHRwn/d+wVqkB5LI=; b=mFh/HcJdMAVPHR4J947zU5aFS/eCjS3h7EyZ1nPl1mfbIDBLbT/aJG7sUP7UkOlZKI r1GOcrYusuXb1uTS2LnUTIO7CpqOx1usYfzV43dyqD0I9wibfARDyfvkcCpBywlUKUTz LKM3hU0w/dlsHPLXsJbFKcS7u2T1r1S1P0+dQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.25 with SMTP id z25mr9579050bkw.37.1323740717779; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.41.65 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:45:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE692DF.1000604@gmail.com> References: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4EE692DF.1000604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:45:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Edwin L. Culp W." To: Noel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:45:20 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Noel wrote: > On 12/12/2011 5:05 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > =A0On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:26:06PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: >>> do direct ftp to disk? And what do you mean by fixate? >> No. =A0You ftp the file down to the local machine and then use a CD burn= ing >> utility to burn file to the CD. > > > Daniel, > > An ISO file is basically a "snapshot" of a CD (or DVD or BlueRay) > disc. =A0You need special software to burn the image to a CD. =A0 Do NOT > open the ISO file and copy the contents to a CD; that won't work. > > Windows 7 includes the ability to burn an iso; right-click the .iso > file and pick "Burn disc image". > > For WinXP/Vista (or if you want a little more control in Win7), you > need an iso burner program. =A0Here's a free one I've used this in the > past: > http://www.ntfs.com/iso_burner_free.htm > > > > > =A0-- Noel Jones > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I usually use k3b, think it is great for all cd -dvd burning and I have also followed the Handbook and used sysutils/cdrtools-devel and worked perfectly and didn't need kde. ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 02:52:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393A31065673 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0459E8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcse13 with SMTP id e13so6035308qcs.13 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.75.221 with SMTP id z29mr157973qcj.128.1323744730202; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:52:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.155.198 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:51:39 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Implementation details of altq hfsc scheduler in pf 4.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:52:11 -0000 I've read everything I could find on the topic of configuring hfsc altq in pf (4.5, FreeBSD 9), but I still have no clear idea of how it is actually implemented. I even started looking through the source code, but that might take a while. My main questions are: 1. Difference between 'realtime' and 'linkshare'? 2. In service curve configuration (m1, d, m2), what is 'd' relative to? 3. Are priorities actually used for anything? For question 1, both settings seem to set a minimum guarantee. What is their relationship? For example, what will be the behavior of the following configuration: altq on $wan hfsc bandwidth 25Mb queue {one, two} queue one bandwidth 70% hfsc(default, realtime 20%) queue two bandwidth 30% hfsc(realtime 60%) I know that the sum of realtime options cannot exceed 80% and that 'bandwidth' is an alias for 'linkshare' when using a linear service curve (m2). So the question is, how will this configuration behave as both queues start to exceed their realtime allocations (total traffic is consuming more than 20Mb of bandwidth)? Question 2 comes out of the following phrase, which is repeated almost verbatim on every site I found: "For the first d milliseconds the queue gets the bandwidth given as m1, afterwards the value given in m2." First 'd' milliseconds starting from when? Is it per-connection (i.e. time when the state is created)? That's what everyone seems to imply, but it's a per-queue configuration option ("the queue gets..."). Who gets what and when? How is the bandwidth shared between multiple connections, started at different times, within the same queue? Suppose I change my configuration as follows: altq on $wan hfsc bandwidth 25Mb queue {std, web} queue std bandwidth 70% hfsc(default, realtime 60%) queue web bandwidth 30% hfsc(realtime (20%, 10000, 10%)) Queue 'std' will be used for all general outgoing traffic and is currently being fully utilized (at 25 Mb/s). Queue 'web' will be used for traffic from my web server. At T=0, a client outside of my network connects to the web server and begins downloading a large file. I assume that the 'std' queue is now throttled back to 70%, and the web client will receive about 30% of the total bandwidth. Is it the case that at T=10 seconds, the web traffic is reduced from 30% to 10% and std traffic goes up to 90%? This also goes back to the relationship between realtime and linkshare. The 'std' queue is only guaranteed 60%, no? Next, what happens if a second web client connects at T=15 seconds and begins downloading the same file? You now have packets for two separate connections, which were started at different times, being queued in 'web' with a non-linear service curve. What will each client receive (in terms of bandwidth) and when? Finally, the purpose of queue priorities is also not clear. Some sites advise to leave them out because hfsc relies entirely on bandwidth limits, while others specify priorities in a fashion similar to priq. What is actual effect of different queue priorities on hfsc scheduling? - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 05:39:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285121065680 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=03216a5577=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3378FC1A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98257 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 05:12:42 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2011 05:12:42 -0000 Date: 13 Dec 2011 05:12:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20111213051220.45894.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: What's wrong with this code? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:39:24 -0000 This tiny routine is in a .so loadable module I use. (It's part of the mailfront SMTP daemon.) static const char* date_string(void) { static char datebuf[64]; time_t now = time(0); struct tm* tm = gmtime(&now); strftime(datebuf, sizeof datebuf - 1, "%d %b %Y %H:%M:%S -0000", tm); return datebuf; } I was getting bogus dates. Running it under GDB, time() is returning -1, and setting errno to 22, which is EINVAL. Changing the call to time to time(NULL) or time(&now) made no difference. I changed it to a call to gettimeofday(), which works fine. But what could the problem have been? When I splice this routine into a tiny test program that calls it and prints out the result, it works fine. The obvious problem, since it's in a .so, is that it's linking to something other than the system library time() function, but I did an nm on the .so, and it said this, which sure looks like the system time() function to me: U time@@FBSD_1.0 Setting a breakpoint in gdb gets a complaint about trying to set a breakpoint in /lib/libc.so.7. Any ideas what the problem was? R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 06:07:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAE61065672 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5F28FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBD67tJi077552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:07:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBD67sur033979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:07:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pBD67sPE033978; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:07:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:07:54 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: John Levine Message-ID: <20111213060754.GG53453@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20111213051220.45894.qmail@joyce.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111213051220.45894.qmail@joyce.lan> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:07:55 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's wrong with this code? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:07:59 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 13), John Levine said: > This tiny routine is in a .so loadable module I use. (It's part of the > mailfront SMTP daemon.) > > static const char* date_string(void) > { > static char datebuf[64]; > time_t now = time(0); > struct tm* tm = gmtime(&now); > strftime(datebuf, sizeof datebuf - 1, "%d %b %Y %H:%M:%S -0000", tm); > return datebuf; > } > > I was getting bogus dates. Running it under GDB, time() is returning 1, > -and setting errno to 22, which is EINVAL. Changing the call to > time to time(NULL) or time(&now) made no difference. The manpage says that time() can fail for any of the reasons described in gettimeofday(2), but time() actually calls clock_gettime(CLOCK_SECOND), which technically could return EINVAL if the first argument isn't a valid clock_id. CLOCK_SECOND is valid, though, so in practice it should never fail with EINVAL. You could try adding a printf to sys/kern/kern_time.c:kern_clock_gettime() to see if it's really failing there. > I changed it to a call to gettimeofday(), which works fine. But what > could the problem have been? When I splice this routine into a tiny test > program that calls it and prints out the result, it works fine. > > The obvious problem, since it's in a .so, is that it's linking to > something other than the system library time() function, but I did an nm > on the .so, and it said this, which sure looks like the system time() > function to me: > > U time@@FBSD_1.0 > > Setting a breakpoint in gdb gets a complaint about trying to set a > breakpoint in /lib/libc.so.7. Setting a breakpoint in a llibc should work fine, since time() is a regular function and not a syscall stub. Have you built a libc with debugging symbols? ( easy way: add DEBUG_FLAGS=-g to the top of /usr/src/lib/libc/Makefile, and run "make obj && make clean && make depend && make && make install" in that directory ) > Any ideas what the problem was? -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 06:36:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484E01065676 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F178FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pBD6chAw002637; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:38:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:38:43 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201112130638.pBD6chAw002637@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, johnl@iecc.com In-Reply-To: <20111213051220.45894.qmail@joyce.lan> Cc: Subject: Re: What's wrong with this code? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:36:39 -0000 From: "John Levine" wrote: > > This tiny routine is in a .so loadable module I use. (It's part of the > mailfront SMTP daemon.) > > static const char* date_string(void) > { > static char datebuf[64]; > time_t now = time(0); > struct tm* tm = gmtime(&now); > strftime(datebuf, sizeof datebuf - 1, "%d %b %Y %H:%M:%S -0000", tm); > return datebuf; > } > > I was getting bogus dates. Running it under GDB, time() is returning > -1, and setting errno to 22, which is EINVAL. Changing the call to > time to time(NULL) or time(&now) made no difference. > > I changed it to a call to gettimeofday(), which works fine. But what > could the problem have been? When I splice this routine into a tiny > test program that calls it and prints out the result, it works fine. how about a tiny .so that includes -only- that routine, and a 3-line or so main() that links against -that- .so? > The obvious problem, since it's in a .so, is that it's linking to something > other than the system library time() function, but I did an nm on the .so, > and it said this, which sure looks like the system time() function to me: > > U time@@FBSD_1.0 > > Setting a breakpoint in gdb gets a complaint about trying to set a > breakpoint in /lib/libc.so.7. > > Any ideas what the problem was? The errorno value you report is *NOT* a defined return code for date(3). The libc date(3) will return only EFAULT, or EPERM, per the manpage. This lends credence to the possibility of a run-time linker issue. HOWEVER, there is also the possiblity of memory getting trashed -- in just the 'right' wrong way -- *elsewhere* in the code. OR a corrupted .so Mentioning O/S release level, and CPU architecture would be a good idea :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 06:38:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE66106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3466F8FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26089 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2011 06:38:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=65e8.4ee6f2e0.k1112; bh=OBdhKhepmCbTOZawtE/HYcTaww1PdY06JOsO0HkzIi8=; b=rnJLok5/MnE48FW8/tyavLdh9RvONOtmJNnDR3Yp6iaCdC+oLp1f9qrSOkBIDABpibVueIsCfh+Um4Gh22d9bV2+x3UgWkNnKtdN6qN3e9A0Te8pOAeD7PpR0yAFHJf3f3X1LJBBT/bBNsbd/qxbEoNG6xP/aLaAA7JWbx0zLNg= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 06:38:02 -0000 Date: 13 Dec 2011 01:38:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Robert Bonomi" In-Reply-To: <201112130638.pBD6chAw002637@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201112130638.pBD6chAw002637@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's wrong with this code? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:38:25 -0000 > how about a tiny .so that includes -only- that routine, and a 3-line or so > main() that links against -that- .so? not a bad idea. > Mentioning O/S release level, and CPU architecture would be a good idea :) Oh sorry, FreeBSD 8.2 release, AMD64 R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 08:58:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269F0106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA8A8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaaf13 with SMTP id f13so1353268eaa.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:58:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+mMpGlnwzDnsy9ufh2ZuHKLBVJNH5GGLV2jvZsBY4aE=; b=S7ryxR6aUW0nbFvfEWR++QywFp0bn2bUODG6qRvsHiubqJOCdgdWpo/kKMtVAF41mb Sop2tdpwecZBFBFHeFoLnA1RkiTO89v6bsX/MVyKJLThd/vlOZlhtqC/9uv7WM4PWPKM vFtpLheFNLtdrFn8vBMha6BdamflL8678KkwM= Received: by 10.14.19.3 with SMTP id m3mr3987935eem.3.1323766712620; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from green.tandem.local (utwig.xim.bz. [91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 54sm7830570eeo.10.2011.12.13.00.58.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:58:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE713B3.7000401@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:58:27 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111111 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Mullins References: <4EE5CBFE.9050908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM configuration to allow passwords from both Unix and Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:58:34 -0000 12.12.2011 20:35, Matt Mullins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> 10.12.2011 04:22, Matt Mullins wrote: >>> auth optional pam_deny.so >>> auth sufficient pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass >>> auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass >> >> >> Why you just haven't changed the last line to `required`? > > I did try that, but I omitted it due to completely failing behavior. > pam_krb5.so returns failure during pam_setcred() if the user did not > log in with Kerberos credentials, whereas pam_unix.so succeeds as long > as the uid exists (I'm using nss_ldap for that part, so all the uids > do indeed exist). Thus, pam_unix.so will work with "required", but > pam_krb5.so won't. > >> Why just don't get stock `/usr/src/etc/pam.d/sshd` and uncomment anything >> related to kerberos? That's quite simple unlike managing `su`. > > That's pretty much what I did. I'm a little unhappy since pam_krb5.so > is before pam_unix.so in the list, so if the KDC goes down I have to > wait for a time-out to log in to my system... but that's always better > than letting anyone in :) So how about: auth sufficient pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass auth required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 09:15:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EBC1065672 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@kontrol.kode5.net) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F358FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB96B6784B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:51:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kontrol.kode5.net Received: from kontrol.kode5.net ([127.0.0.1]) by kontrol.kode5.net (kontrol.kode5.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sUh4tBv__PmM for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:51:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: by kontrol.kode5.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3374D6784A; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:51:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:51:27 +0000 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111213085127.GB6068@kontrol.kode5.net> References: <20111212230529.GC42821@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20111212235833.GC69009@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111212235833.GC69009@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:15:41 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:58:33PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:05:29PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > First of all, always include the list in a response to something > > from the list. Other people will be reading and may well know > > more than me or any other person who responds. eg, don't just > > send the follow-on question back to the one responding. Send it > > to the list. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:26:06PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > > > > > do direct ftp to disk? And what do you mean by fixate? > > > > No. You ftp the file down to the local machine and then use a CD burning > > utility to burn file to the CD. On FreeBSD there is one called 'burncd'. > > I am not familiar with the ones on a MS system, but there are several > > available. Maybe someone else will suggest one or there is probably > > some information in the handbook. > > > > Fixate is something that finishes writing a terminal record on > > the CD image or something like that. I don't really know in > > detail. I think some burner utilities do it automatically with > > no choice. The burncd utility needs to have you specify it. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/11, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:36:04PM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > > > > > > > >> Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It > > > >> was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. > > > >> Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. > > > >> Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? > > > > > > > > Well, the .iso files you get from the FreeBSD distribution are ISO > > > > image files that need to be burned directly to a disk. There is no > > > > other processing or formatting that may be done. > > > > > > > > I do not know what you mean by 'unzipped to a cd rom'. I have never > > > > done anything that sounded like that. > > > > > > > > You should just download the .iso file and burn in to a fresh cd > > > > and fixate it. Then boot it. > > > > > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > I've used Nero in the past on a Windows system to burn an ISO. You can > download it (probably timebombed) from http://www.tucows.com/ I think. > > Instructions on burning and fixating are here: > > http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > I recall having some trouble finding a decent ISO burner for Windows that didn't require paying but came across ActiveISO Burner. It's pretty decent, it's incredibly simple to use and has a clearly labeled option to burn ISO images. This was Windows 7 although it will be fine to use on most earlier versions. As others have mentioned you only need FreeBSD Disc1. I personally just use the "User" installation option which only installs binaries and man pages and docs. I don't install the sources and ports collection at that stage, I find it's best to add that later. Then I'd recommend updating your system using 'freebsd-update', at that point you can add the ports collection with 'portsnap' and install loads of cool stuff, like X and a window manager. Personally I use xfce4. I used to use fvwm2 but I just like to have things operational quickly without fiddling with config files. 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11:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.41.35.220] (helo=[192.168.16.86]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1RaQZN-0003oj-Wn; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:30:49 +0000 From: "Dave" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:30:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4EE73767.10522.AD99C1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: Daniel Lewis Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:51:46 -0000 > Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It > was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. > Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer startup. > Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing problems? > > Daniel.. The "Windows format" has nothing to do with the problem. You need to take the .ISO image files, and burn a CD from it, not extract or copy it to a CD.. For Windows, I use this:- http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm It works very well, and the price is right (free.) Very easy to use. If you already have "Nero Buring Rom" installed, that will also take a .ISO file, and use it to burn a CD. Slightly more complex to use, but does a good job. (You need to select "Burn an image to disk" option, then go look for the .ISO file to use, it's not the default!) There are many similar tools for the job, but just unzipping the file to a cd will not make a bootable disk. Contrary to what some have said, Windows (certainly XP and earlier) do not recognise the .ISO format natively, so no ammount of clicking or double clicking on it will help. You do of course, also have to configure your PC's bios to boot from a CD, or know the hotkey to interupt it's normal boot sequence, and tell it to boot from an alternative drive. Hope this helps. Regards. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 12:57:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C678106564A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from remailer.privacy.at (remailer.privacy.at [212.124.141.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084798FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by remailer.privacy.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A807F75B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:29:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20111213085127.GB6068@kontrol.kode5.net> Message-ID: <73a56af552a5e553aabffee7354b57fd@remailer.privacy.at> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:29:36 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:57:12 -0000 > I recall having some trouble finding a decent ISO burner for Windows that > didn't require paying but came across ActiveISO Burner. If Freeburner is still available it works pretty well on Winbloze. Alternatively have a friend burn it for you or boot a Linux live CD like Knoppix or Slax and use K3B since it's very user friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:15:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBB0106564A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848D48FC1D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so7863009vcb.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:15:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HSO9vHt8QTH5Fo3VRizXFIqBSP2z9J7dZhEVBZEhke8=; b=vVvnejgmq+dJmgOYerzowEMU3LVZ77IRNuDhmDs+cNYKAVCY3jWeejXln/gAF+JMan WvGrdcPlSttzlF+pBPam2qPQuEDKYkJ6xHN0dplpCgJNlGjxc/dmGNSD1cozy6hI5g+l zUTADi3ukxi4mICYST0079aQVYc7gaEocs890= Received: by 10.220.227.72 with SMTP id iz8mr1386884vcb.67.1323782152122; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dg8sm7967164vdb.4.2011.12.13.05.15.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:15:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:15:47 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111213131547.27bda580@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Implementation details of altq hfsc scheduler in pf 4.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:15:53 -0000 On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:51:39 -0500 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > I've read everything I could find on the topic of configuring hfsc > altq in pf (4.5, FreeBSD 9), but I still have no clear idea of how it > is actually implemented. I even started looking through the source > code, but that might take a while. My main questions are: > > 1. Difference between 'realtime' and 'linkshare'? It's about latency, realtime has priority over non-realtime. > 2. In service curve configuration (m1, d, m2), what is 'd' relative > to? It looks like it's a leaky-bucket algorithm. It's not really relative to anything except for special cases like a traffic step-function. > 3. Are priorities actually used for anything? Priority determines which queue is serviced next when more than one is under its limit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:17:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE343106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexzhuk@mail.ru) Received: from fallback7.mail.ru (fallback7.mail.ru [94.100.176.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE88FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp24.mail.ru (smtp24.mail.ru [94.100.176.177]) by fallback7.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 6F6E07765023 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:56:24 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=nNsaivGUfjuAJ0s7fIvSjy8i7IK6oUhnEUcchi8iyFw=; b=DW4ImPgLaxb7/vRsnX8U4pxShNaR5jCUe6mFTZjSfJqIKf/p7utJ1lZmTiX7qSYrp+if4VRh4jj35PLdcaQyCbrF6McZNPtckvgsiJqdragl1P+wlf/BsC1UhHgk11Sm; Received: from [76.10.153.42] (port=4474 helo=[192.168.121.11]) by smtp24.mail.ru with asmtp id 1RaRu9-0005py-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:56:21 +0400 Message-ID: <4EE74B72.10406@mail.ru> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:56:18 -0500 From: Alex User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EDE37A1.5030306@ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <4EDE37A1.5030306@ulb.ac.be> X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Mras: Ok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: AHCI timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:17:04 -0000 On 12/6/2011 10:41 AM, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running 9.0-RC3 on a HP Proliant Microserver (N40L). A disk died > in my graid3 array and I replaced it with a new one, and now have tons > of: > > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 5 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00003f60 rs 00003f60 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000ed17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 0 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00000003 rs 00000003 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000e117 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 1 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 000003fe rs 000003fe tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000e917 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 16 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00030000 rs 00030000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f217 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 15 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00018000 rs 00018000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f017 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 19 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00780000 rs 00780000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f617 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 11 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 000ff800 rs 000ff800 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f317 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 13 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00006000 rs 00006000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000ef17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 11 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 001ff800 rs 001ff800 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f417 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 19 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00380000 rs 00380000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f517 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 29 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss e000001f rs e000001f tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000e417 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 27 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 18000000 rs 18000000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000fc17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 4 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00001ff0 rs 00001ff0 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000ec17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 28 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 70000000 rs 70000000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000fe17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 8 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 0000ff00 rs 0000ff00 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000ef17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 29 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 60000000 rs 60000000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000ff17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 16 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00070000 rs 00070000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f217 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 19 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00780000 rs 00780000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f617 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 7 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00007f80 rs 00007f80 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000ee17 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 16 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00070000 rs 00070000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f217 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 0 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00000007 rs 00000007 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000e217 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 20 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 01b00000 rs 01b00000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f817 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 20 port 0 > ahcich3: is 00000000 cs 00000000 ss 00b00000 rs 00b00000 tfd 40 serr > 00000000 cmd 0000f717 > ahcich3: Timeout on slot 15 port 0 > > (...) > > Those are Seagate disks: > > jcigar@backup conf % sudo camcontrol devlist > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,ada0) > at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,ada1) > at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,ada2) > at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,ada3) > > The controller is: > > ahci0@pci0:0:17:0: class=0x010601 card=0x1609103c chip=0x43911002 > rev=0x40 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' > device = 'SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]' > class = mass storage > subclass = SATA > > jcigar@backup conf % vmstat -i > interrupt total rate > irq17: ehci0 ehci1+ 2 0 > irq18: ohci0 ohci1+ 30 0 > irq256: bge0 31354 4 > irq257: ahci0 19012658 2477 > irq258: hpet0:t0 4926229 641 > irq259: hpet0:t1 4635261 603 > Total 28605534 3727 > > > Any idea what could be the cause of this ... ? > > > Thanks, > Julien > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I had very similar situation with AHCI timeouts. SMART was not showing any problem, but finally I decided to remove drive and perform low level tests. I have found very long access time to some sectors (I use HDDScan for windows). I have replaced drive with working fine and my problem are gone (so far). Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:17:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A0010656D2 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E5D8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC6445C24 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:30:09 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE74FD0.8030107@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:14:56 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SD card readers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:17:47 -0000 I've spent years fiddling and waiting for support for the ricoh drivers- finally they came up with support by 8.2 yay! and my laptops had died by that time :( Ohhh, the irony... I have new laptops, and HP have got the picture and are using usb based devices. But one has these: none1@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x088000 card=0x1a071043 chip=0x2382197b rev=0x80 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device = 'SD/MMC Host Controller' class = base peripheral sdhci0@pci0:3:0:2: class=0x080501 card=0x1a071043 chip=0x2381197b rev=0x80 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device = 'Standard SD Host Controller' class = base peripheral subclass = SD host controller none2@pci0:3:0:3: class=0x088000 card=0x1a071043 chip=0x2383197b rev=0x80 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device = 'MS Host Controller' class = base peripheral none3@pci0:3:0:4: class=0x088000 card=0x1a071043 chip=0x2384197b rev=0x80 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp.' device = 'xD Host Controller' class = base peripheral As you can see I have possibly got a sdhci working (untested yet, but recognised- good start), and the rest are a wash. Any clues on what's needed to make these work? BTW kldstat: cuse4bsd.ko mmc.ko sdhci.ko mmcsd.ko smbus.ko And this 9.0-RC3. I'd rather not wait with non-functioning devices till the unit dies again :) Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:34:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5B71065670 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E86B8FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfq46 with SMTP id q46so477510yhf.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.131.40 with SMTP id l28mr3535045yhi.72.1323783250206; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w68sm36178828yhe.14.2011.12.13.05.34.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3T2hp70qhzz2CG5v for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:34:07 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:34:06 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111213083406.2999693e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4EE73767.10522.AD99C1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> References: <4EE73767.10522.AD99C1@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Installing free bsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:34:12 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:30:47 -0000 Dave articulated: > > Im new to FreeBSD and did a FTP of 8.2 and unzipped to a cd rom. It > > was an ISO Version. I then FTP the CDROM BOOT file and un zipped it. > > Unfortunately It wont auto start when i put disk in computer > > startup. Need support.. Is the windows format on disk causing > > problems? > > > > > > Daniel.. > > The "Windows format" has nothing to do with the problem. > > You need to take the .ISO image files, and burn a CD from it, not > extract or copy it to a CD.. > > For Windows, I use this:- > http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm It works very well, and the > price is right (free.) Very easy to use. > > If you already have "Nero Buring Rom" installed, that will also take > a .ISO file, and use it to burn a CD. Slightly more complex to use, > but does a good job. (You need to select "Burn an image to disk" > option, then go look for the .ISO file to use, it's not the default!) > > There are many similar tools for the job, but just unzipping the file > to a cd will not make a bootable disk. > > Contrary to what some have said, Windows (certainly XP and earlier) > do not recognise the .ISO format natively, so no ammount of clicking > or double clicking on it will help. > > You do of course, also have to configure your PC's bios to boot from > a CD, or know the hotkey to interupt it's normal boot sequence, and > tell it to boot from an alternative drive. I don't remember if the OP listed the version of Windows that they were using. If it is Windows 7, then all they need do to burn an ISO image in Windows 7 is simply right-click on an ISO image and choose "Burn disc image". A menu will pop up giving the user the option of choosing where to burn the image and if they want to verify the burn. It couldn't get any simpler. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:52:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998581065675 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA318FC1B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10471271; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:52:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10471269; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE758A4.6070709@radel.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:52:36 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Diljot kor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Diljot kor wants to chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:52:51 -0000 On 12/13/11 8:23 AM, Diljot kor wrote: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Diljot kor wants to stay in better touch using some of Google's coolest new > products. 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Be careful out there. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 14:09:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723B8106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas-2-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:b9c::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110E8FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.4/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBDE9lWG094993; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:09:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org (8.14.4/8.14.5/Submit) id pBDE9lhF094992; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:09:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:09:47 -0500 From: "Michael W. Lucas" To: Reid Linnemann Message-ID: <20111213140947.GB94954@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20111208164533.GA67774@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:09:47 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:09:48 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 03:34:28PM -0600, Reid Linnemann wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Michael W. Lucas > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm attempting to hook security/pam_ssh_agent_auth into sudo, and have > > learned that PAM doesn't work the way I thought it did. > > > > I'm running FreeBSD-9/i386, with sudo 1.7.2.6. > > > > My goal is that sudo pass all auth requests back to the users' SSH > > agent. ?Sudo should never use passwords for authentication. If the > > user doesn't have an SSH agent, or if the SSH agent breaks somehow, > > the sudo request is denied. > > > > With my current config, sudo requests are accepted without a password > > even if the users' environment has no $SSH_AUTH_SOCK. I'm obviously > > doing something wrong. > > > > Here's my pam.d/sudo. I removed password settings and required the > > pam_ssh_agent_auth library. > > > > --- > > #auth ? ? ? ? ? include ? ? ? ? system > > auth ? ? ? ? ? ?required ? ? ? ?/usr/local/lib/pam_ssh_agent_auth.so file=~/.ssh/authorized\ > > _keys > > > > # account > > account ? ? ? ? include ? ? ? ? system > > > > # session > > # XXX: pam_lastlog (used in system) causes users to appear as though > > # they are no longer logged in in system logs. > > session ? ? ? ? required ? ? ? ?pam_permit.so > > > > # password > > #password ? ? ? include ? ? ? ? system > > --- > > > > Any suggestions what I'm doing wrong? > > > > Thanks, > > ==ml > > > > -- > > Michael W. Lucas > > http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ > > Latest book: Network Flow Analysis http://www.networkflowanalysis.com/ > > mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org, Twitter @mwlauthor > > Make sure your sudoers file has > > Defaults env_keep += "SSH_AUTH_SOCK" > > Also, make sure your matching rule for your user doesn't have NOPASSWD > set. It seems that since you've already authenticated to the system, > sudo still knows the user and/or group credentials without the pam > module's help - all it does is authenticate the public and private > keys. If you have NOPASSWD, sudo doesn't even think it needs to refer > to the authentication mechanism because according to sudoers it needs > no password for the user issuing the request. Hi, Thanks for answering! Turns out my problem was that sudo caches the last time the user authenticated. For future reference, I blogged how to set this up at http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1106 ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ Latest book: Network Flow Analysis http://www.networkflowanalysis.com/ mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org, Twitter @mwlauthor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 14:28:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617D4106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A988FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so13871115wgb.31 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:28:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.138.13 with SMTP id z13mr153382wei.37.1323786505832; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.105.73 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:28:25 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [87.223.147.130] Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:28:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: osm2pgsql abort trap 6 !? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:28:27 -0000 Hi all, I've compiled converters/osm2pgsql from ports (FreeBSD 9.0-RC1) and when I try to run it I get: "Abort trap: 6" I'm trying to see if I have any problem with missing dynamic libraries or whatever, but when I do a ldd `which osm2pgsql` I get: /usr/local/bin/osm2pgsql: /usr/local/bin/osm2pgsql: signal 6 I've already performed a sysctl security.bsd.map_at_zero="1" (as seen in previous posts) without success. Any other ideas I could try? Thanks in advance, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:10:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D74106564A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pulley@dabus.com) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980E78FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (localhost.dabus.com [127.0.0.1]) by aegir.dabus.com (Processor) with ESMTP id E18365F2CD for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:10:06 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; b=QEMnj2iY45c7vwcHKhpsWQdH73x1wOp0RMZ3omWBfNJFVydHunVIZySBwtrkw245pc0TQN9w7XOp1w4B+xotLALUJcc15QaMfA+TDrKdvyuPPiDP+zOLo9JNOVV4zVlEgKqNycKTF9szSGXf08pGEVMekJpRQJXBVtI7oUhHZ3M=; c=nofws; d=dabus.com; q=dns; s=aegir1 Received: from [192.168.10.3] (unknown [192.168.10.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aegir.dabus.com (Dabus) with ESMTPSA id 886C35F2B1 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:10:05 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:10:09 -0700 From: Eric S Pulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8B656B09F7042883DDF10EA6@[192.168.10.3]> In-Reply-To: <4EE6943E.40400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4989a3ebb7810ed26951cbbd23b7645c.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> <4EE6943E.40400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:10:09 -0000 --On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 09:54:38 AM +1000 Da Rock=20 wrote: > On 12/13/11 06:00, Eric S Pulley wrote: >>> As for one big / partition- linux may be using it: and its their = biggest >>> failing! I've had a system lockup due to lack of space. Never a problem >>> with bsd as logs will only fill up var, a user won't break it with >>> filling up usr, etc. And root always stays protected! Its saved my life >>> a number of times... I can quickly fill TB's of data in no time, and if >>> something goes bang the logs can be a silent killer too. My 2c's >>> anyway... _______________________________________________ >>> >> And along those lines for security of the system, this is the U.S. DoD >> recommendations (well mandates really) including ZFS. Not that the DoD >> doesn=E2=80=99t have security problems... but I=E2=80=99m not big fan of = the one or >> two mount point solution either=E2=80=A6 never understood why other OS >> packagers think is okay to just dump it all under / >> >> Per the DISA STIG (Security Technical Implementation Guide) >> >> / (obviously) >> / >> /var >> /tmp >> / >> >> should all be separate mount points "The use of separate file systems = for >> different paths can protect the system from failures resulting from a >> file system becoming full or failing"... >> >> in addition... >> >> All local file systems must employ journaling or another mechanism that >> ensures file system consistency. >> >> Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does not >> contain approved device files must be mounted with the "nodev" option. >> >> Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does not >> contain approved setuid files must be mounted with the "nosuid" option. >> >> The nosuid option must be enabled on all NFS client mounts. >> >> and so on... you can find a copy of the UNIX STIG online and some of it >> is just crazy paranoia and makes your life a pain, but there are a lot = of >> good practices in it too. >> >> > I don't think any of it crazy paranoia. A PITA, maybe, but not paranoid. > > Do you have a link to the original of it? Sure, Lots more there than just UNIX too. I find that the newer "SRG" xml files=20 are easier to just load into a browsers and read the recommendations rather = than pouring through the big sections in the STIGs. Or just do the checklists. There are no *BSD specific ones but the the=20 generic UNIX STIG works good (probably because at this point *BSD is=20 basically the reference implementation of UNIX or at least it should be...=20 damn Linux) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:09:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A571065677 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxisone@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE0F8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dakp5 with SMTP id p5so8501618dak.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:09:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=PbUoF+16pchZ3ur2DUJUZUElncoEXMaSvb3RyYGM0pI=; b=F28P2nTL4dxQwUTU1qKooEwOGAgxGRC5VS0tQjHCMnGurq26NpuG8QcN/NaLtJgGL4 81Izs6ZRFZDarbzfG/jTEOapI+DV/B4F8oT3Vp3oPs0O2P+LAu8Ancjzzess5HY/P46D cHFZebkvKw7GfdK8ViU/qhvlLjqxV8GCgfFhA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.75.135 with SMTP id c7mr44570241pbw.112.1323787601394; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:46:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: linuxisone@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.58.135 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:46:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:46:41 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5bnLiGJHRjagGlfUkP7JgXewDdU Message-ID: From: LinuxIsOne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:15:25 +0000 Subject: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:17 -0000 hi, Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word 'free' is it like this? 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4EE758A4.6070709@radel.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:20:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Diljot kor wants to chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:20:41 -0000 > The "invite everyone in your address book" feature is evil, yes? Don't blame the invite feature, *google* is evil. "Don't be evil?" Your ass! Fuck you google! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:30:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AFF106564A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF92F8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBDFULcZ027130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:21 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pBDFULcZ027130 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1323790221; bh=a0wzwpR26+bcJBBGfdht+KoyJZzHo916ZO0TAMM3l3I=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=b8FjhlZjOrqpQB0Khiyo6+XSNC1shOPSObtK9u8zgfS9G+bAPxlrJWTEK3H++FHAQ 3A0mPwMb5Uz5MKu6oe2twUSs9M+yjP9TpZlo6jpRjV98sICQlAVBn7AgUelLC+0sAL L8ht6VwqZj8qKkCxm/bLEjaNC4EVwSw+K5HfK19s= Message-ID: <4EE76F8D.1010908@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:21 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig47A7CE7D79A9630A3AE31FFD" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig47A7CE7D79A9630A3AE31FFD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/12/2011 14:46, LinuxIsOne wrote: > Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word > 'free' is it like this? Yes, it is really BSD: it is the direct lineal descendant of Unix code released by the University of California, Berkeley. The beginnings of the FreeBSD project were based on the 386BSD code that ultimately came out of BSD 4.3 and 4.4. See here, for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.svg "Free" in the sense of "available to use in any way the user may see fit and without onerous licensing terms or fees" -- that's implicit in the BSD part of the name[*]. Still, no harm in repeating ourselves. Besides, it was necessary to distinguish this project from NetBSD and later OpenBSD (plus various other more recent BSD variants). Cheers, Matthew [*] Although you can still be BSD, even under commercial licensing terms and closed source, but in that case, the name tends not to contain those letters. eg. SunOS (before v5), NeXTSTEP, MacOS X. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig47A7CE7D79A9630A3AE31FFD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7nb40ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwaiQCeOcnSix0Dc/R6GzaOTGm7xtuz tyEAnjzI6qg9/nc5f6oZarb4wP4LjK7+ =H09C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig47A7CE7D79A9630A3AE31FFD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:59:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190651065670 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9DD8FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local ([10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBDFxZgw028986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:59:35 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4EE77667.9060501@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:59:35 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Disabling geom_journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:59:37 -0000 Hi all, I'm sure I have seen this come up before but a google doesnt help. I am trying to disable gjournal on a disk so i can move to suj as part of moving on to the 9.x series, I have umounted the FS but when i try to stop the journal it automatically starts it on the gtpid of the device and if i stop that it goes back to the original device name. [root@ostracod ~/doc]# gjournal list Geom name: gjournal 2909580316 ID: 2909580316 Providers: 1. Name: ada1p2.journal Mediasize: 494739118080 (460G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: ada1p2 Mediasize: 495812860416 (461G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 17408 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 495812859904 Jstart: 494739118080 Role: Data,Journal [root@ostracod ~/doc]# gjournal stop ada1p2.journal [root@ostracod ~/doc]# gjournal list Geom name: gjournal 2909580316 ID: 2909580316 Providers: 1. Name: gptid/9e1798be-b5f3-11de-a1eb-00012e273257.journal Mediasize: 494739118080 (460G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: gptid/9e1798be-b5f3-11de-a1eb-00012e273257 Mediasize: 495812860416 (461G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 17408 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 495812859904 Jstart: 494739118080 Role: Data,Journal Any idea how to stop this without setting kern.geom.label.gptid.enable=0 in my loader.conf and rebooting? Thanks, Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:01:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F251106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D023A8FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pBDG421N008072; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:04:02 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201112131604.pBDG421N008072@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, reallife@hmamail.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:01:57 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 13 09:18:00 2011 > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:46:41 -0500 > From: LinuxIsOne > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: freebsd is really bsd? > > hi, > > Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word > 'free' is it like this? > Any of the '*BSD' named operating systems trace their ancestery to various software released by the C.S.R.G. at the University of California at Berkeley, under the name of a 'Berkeley Software Distributin', or "BSD" for short. None of the ancestor software used in this way was a complete, runnable and working working Operating System. Any 'runnable' O/S distributed by UCB/CSRG under the 'BSD' name also required a license from AT&T. FreeBSD _is_ free from any licensing 'encumberments' that would prevent one from using it 'as they see fit', subject *only* to retaining certain accreditations aind copyright notices in the source code, and in any docucmentationt that accompines a 'binary'/'executable'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:53:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B5B1065675 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxisone@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B858FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3so437150pbc.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CS49+PUxsnFX80zGM1jSbUNN2F8zjaZoh2vS1UavYMQ=; b=Fw66mZ3vKNv1vct09/6V2ESFfczOE0J71vMxLMlRgGGScqWjY8RU0akJRgFaCz0Jtb o7YM7FFQDrZPZJznt/tTTcSgOunuIfSzbryHWUWB91Qfqo7kd+B6vUZtdoGaViAss7kG IGjQB9TqBy1FSjiha2yCKPJIAhadU5hj50QLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.212.68 with SMTP id ni4mr46276281pbc.44.1323795212441; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.58.135 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE76F8D.1010908@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4EE76F8D.1010908@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:53:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: LinuxIsOne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:53:33 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Yes, it is really BSD: it is the direct lineal descendant of Unix code > released by the University of California, Berkeley. =A0The beginnings of > the FreeBSD project were based on the 386BSD code that ultimately came > out of BSD 4.3 and 4.4. =A0See here, for instance: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.svg > "Free" in the sense of "available to use in any way the user may see fit > and without onerous licensing terms or fees" -- that's implicit in the > BSD part of the name[*]. =A0Still, no harm in repeating ourselves. > Besides, it was necessary to distinguish this project from NetBSD and > later OpenBSD (plus various other more recent BSD variants). > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Matthew > [*] Although you can still be BSD, even under commercial licensing terms > and closed source, but in that case, the name tends not to contain those > letters. =A0eg. =A0SunOS (before v5), NeXTSTEP, MacOS X. Oh I see. Thanks for the explanation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:54:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F0A1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxisone@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6758FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dakp5 with SMTP id p5so8630576dak.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s10iXDnW4X1upXjIDlTywY1E6Yzu3e4Q3AHZm5vsRZM=; b=bXE9OU1TrcRsrVLbF3Eu16gmM7w2E2NeJF4Th6WuRK7ma8FpNhs1Um3Ze85Jyu8E3G 3LRH0jGfv5u8SWCVcZiMhqVmykLxEibXu8dzucA1/zajQnoKVAnPdyRDy5DAo7j6G5GT +BM1SMC9HNhiWmnORhi5xyhz1Pf4lDgJrvvIs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.191.231 with SMTP id hb7mr45783822pbc.10.1323795284385; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.58.135 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201112131604.pBDG421N008072@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201112131604.pBDG421N008072@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:54:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: LinuxIsOne To: Robert Bonomi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:54:45 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Any of the '*BSD' named operating systems trace their ancestery to variou= s > software released by the C.S.R.G. at the University of California at > Berkeley, under the name of a 'Berkeley Software Distributin', or "BSD" > for short. =A0None of the ancestor software used in this way was a comple= te, > runnable and working working Operating System. =A0 Any 'runnable' O/S > distributed by UCB/CSRG under the 'BSD' name also required a license from > AT&T. > FreeBSD _is_ free from any licensing 'encumberments' that would prevent > one from using it 'as they see fit', subject *only* to retaining certain > accreditations aind copyright notices in the source code, and in any > docucmentationt that accompines a 'binary'/'executable'. Oh I see. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:55:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828271065672 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCF88FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa03 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id pBDGQZ0g018515; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:55:00 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 11p9xcr825-39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:55:00 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.39) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:54:39 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: "'Da Rock'" , References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4989a3ebb7810ed26951cbbd23b7645c.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> <4EE6943E.40400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4EE6943E.40400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:54:23 -0800 Message-ID: <006a01ccb9b7$df4f1f40$9ded5dc0$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIaTP0Ww/XzDMFQN7I1i1Dohb1TNgHC2PDbAYy6fusBzVCa+wHze5sNAW6AjMKU+t5CUA== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.39] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2011-12-13_03:2011-12-13, 2011-12-12, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Subject: RE: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:55:01 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Da Rock > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:55 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling > > On 12/13/11 06:00, Eric S Pulley wrote: > >> As for one big / partition- linux may be using it: and its their > >> biggest failing! I've had a system lockup due to lack of space. Never > >> a problem with bsd as logs will only fill up var, a user won't break > >> it with filling up usr, etc. And root always stays protected! Its > >> saved my life a number of times... I can quickly fill TB's of data in > >> no time, and if something goes bang the logs can be a silent killer too. My 2c's > anyway... > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > > And along those lines for security of the system, this is the U.S. DoD > > recommendations (well mandates really) including ZFS. Not that the DoD > > doesn't have security problems... but I'm not big fan of the one or > > two mount point solution either. never understood why other OS > > packagers think is okay to just dump it all under / > > > > Per the DISA STIG (Security Technical Implementation Guide) > > > > / (obviously) > > / > > /var > > /tmp > > / > > > > should all be separate mount points "The use of separate file systems > > for different paths can protect the system from failures resulting > > from a file system becoming full or failing"... > > > > in addition... > > > > All local file systems must employ journaling or another mechanism > > that ensures file system consistency. > > > > Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does > > not contain approved device files must be mounted with the "nodev" option. We're seeing in 8.1-RELEASE that "nodev" is an invalid option for NFS mounts that causes your system to boot into single-user mode. Is this still the case in 9.0-RC2/3 or has the option been re-added? "nodev" was a valid option in 4.11-RELEASE, not sure why it was removed (and/or made invalid). -- Devin > > > > Removable media, remote file systems, and any file system that does > > not contain approved setuid files must be mounted with the "nosuid" option. > > > > The nosuid option must be enabled on all NFS client mounts. > > > > and so on... you can find a copy of the UNIX STIG online and some of > > it is just crazy paranoia and makes your life a pain, but there are a > > lot of good practices in it too. > > > > > I don't think any of it crazy paranoia. A PITA, maybe, but not paranoid. > > Do you have a link to the original of it? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:55:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390A81065673 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxisone@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40A8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3so438227pbc.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:55:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mrx8ncUZ3FTO/10rCCU+4vWCV1mKuCvzGFN6mNyeSPw=; b=B4tea+8fe7QNSiHUw49lv7xDuBc6Oozh3s6B1rtPWWEGDgOqtXCDK3OjzlOy44F3Cb uOr6B8Tya/Qgt+hb8GRr7Bec9LZKcOYLbewmiWJoxkdxVYUMeUumQo8eXLcwRYch8W8T K++8X04idFEtxrX9Jj8Ggc5RLwQgkwB+HNGNM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.75.135 with SMTP id c7mr45289302pbw.112.1323795327732; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:55:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: linuxisone@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.58.135 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:55:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201112131604.pBDG421N008072@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201112131604.pBDG421N008072@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:27 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G7NB57fRBY5ZLj5XG-LYQ_YWy1k Message-ID: From: LinuxIsOne To: Robert Bonomi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:55:28 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Any of the '*BSD' named operating systems trace their ancestery to various > software released by the C.S.R.G. at the University of California at > Berkeley, under the name of a 'Berkeley Software Distributin', or "BSD" > for short. None of the ancestor software used in this way was a complete, > runnable and working working Operating System. Any 'runnable' O/S > distributed by UCB/CSRG under the 'BSD' name also required a license from > AT&T. > FreeBSD _is_ free from any licensing 'encumberments' that would prevent > one from using it 'as they see fit', subject *only* to retaining certain > accreditations aind copyright notices in the source code, and in any > docucmentationt that accompines a 'binary'/'executable'. Oh I see. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:07:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47E71065676 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9898FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY165-DS14 ([65.54.190.125]) by bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:55:21 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [174.255.18.41] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "'LinuxIsOne'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:55:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJON432gsx4QOG3v+Cfp4tJYIz+wZTXEQDQ Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2011 17:55:21.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[61EBBB40:01CCB9C0] Cc: Subject: RE: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:07:24 -0000 -----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of LinuxIsOne >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:47 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: freebsd is really bsd? > >hi, > >Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word 'free' is it like this? > >Thanks _______________________________________________ The best explanation I have ever seen to give people fresh to the BSD project is the following youtube clip from years ago. It traces all the way back to its origins and gives nice examples of some of the "small" companies that use BSD derived code in their programs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0&feature=relmfu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:13:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5531065672 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B258FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaaf13 with SMTP id f13so1804409eaa.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:13:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nfav6XPLc434Nl/qKZcIL8fSINZ1g+TmxptgaO1dGKc=; b=fypQYnhlGAtfPm3R0SLU3N83XKS6ZSQ9SCrPE+oN9yAd5Xvi2CBHqjVO9zNgB2N4Zu 702VJgt8upBjGi8j98g9uCufqLgq/blTFYWIMZ6ILZQKfjO9PuEl74yMiXF8Q3TcK5kj VXK0oypsY2pmaMmfuhrypwXGqs0HSYbHBPRqY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.122.70 with SMTP id gf6mr6774998bkc.48.1323800018336; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.26.6 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:13:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:13:38 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: LinuxIsOne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:13:39 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:46 AM, LinuxIsOne wrote: > hi, > > Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word > 'free' is it like this? > /usr/src/share/misc/bsd-family-tree -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:17:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55A41065675 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kryukdmitriy@rambler.ru) Received: from mxb.rambler.ru (mxb.rambler.ru [81.19.66.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727F58FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maild.rambler.ru (maild.rambler.ru [81.19.66.33]) by mxb.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD6610284 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:59:58 +0400 (MSK) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (unknown [178.74.103.228]) (Authenticated sender: kryukdmitriy@rambler.ru) by maild.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B588F84497 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:59:55 +0400 (MSK) Message-ID: <4EE79220.8050007@rambler.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:57:52 +0700 From: Dmitriy Kryuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20111004 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Free memory exhausted by networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:17:49 -0000 I'm running Transmission (http://www.transmissionbt.com/), а BitTorrent client on my FreeBSD 7.2 box. It requests large recieve buffers for its network connections. This leaves my system with absolutely no free memory. If some process frees a large amount of memory, it gets consumed about 1.5 megabytes per second until it drops to zero. I don't seem to have any problems like denied network connections or memory allocation, but it makes my system swap in and out often. As top shows: CPU: 24.9% user, 0.0% nice, 27.2% system, 33.1% interrupt, 14.8% idle Mem: 217M Active, 143M Inact, 105M Wired, 25M Cache, 59M Buf, 8K Free Swap: 4352M Total, 236K Used, 4352M Free I wasn't able to reproduce this problem with any other program, but it clearly disappears when I stop Transmission. The amount of free memory rarely drops below 5 MB without Transmission running. netstat -m shows nothing criminal: 4642/983/5625 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 3380/214/3594/65536 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 3380/103 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 346/93/439/8480 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/4240 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/2120 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 9304K/1045K/10350K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/5/4496 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 calls to protocol drain routines My sysctl tunes: vfs.usermount=1 kern.ipc.nmbclusters=65536 kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=4194304 kern.ipc.maxsockets=204800 net.tcp.sendbuf_inc=16384 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=131072 net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=1 net.inet.tcp.tcbhashsize="4096" How do I make FreeBSD keep some memory free (and so avoid swapping) with Transmission running? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:25:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAFC106566B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A645F8FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaaf13 with SMTP id f13so1820062eaa.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:25:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5eI5K9/3UzjCn3G22UJ1BX4EwD/cX7Gk5v0UWJ5SBjk=; b=EKJWcmrHNVgLvpBO2NvBE4F/Yl0A7+8MKr+OYCpDy8h2XfW8+YGZ5JkMT3cgpYNs6F 50jJbCzv1F78MR+Sxy2pX6AcMlpmUlMNdCk6ILkjfboKc/CoRLnSvK6B3vNFYkLtlJWN xQqHFjSbf7ejhff3/NDO56hizkyX9zq5olecw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.112.6 with SMTP id eq6mr14106040bkc.16.1323800711181; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.26.6 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:25:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE79220.8050007@rambler.ru> References: <4EE79220.8050007@rambler.ru> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:25:11 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Dmitriy Kryuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free memory exhausted by networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:25:14 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Dmitriy Kryuk wrote: > > How do I make FreeBSD keep some memory free (and so avoid swapping) with > Transmission running? > Your top(1) output doesn't indicate to me that swapping is a problem. There were some performance problems with Transmission on FreeBSD. Are you sure they have been resolved? https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11687 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:55:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5CF1065679 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pulley@dabus.com) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512638FC1B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (localhost.dabus.com [127.0.0.1]) by aegir.dabus.com (Processor) with ESMTP id B72D75F2D5 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:48 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; b=NH2LX+ad8XlxIRFMfAFilCtDeMXnd/f2W5ECtCmrGcBiEXzWRzF5F1CeZ/8aTFnIyVx9wRybUm1ErM6O1jWnwlg2OXW2aqYHSzPwomR7cNx3GKw57dn5BESgvNywtU0OY5pLYbce9iiL7xeyLRLpbWg0ojHtHSZYq9vxzDnN9CQ=; c=nofws; d=dabus.com; q=dns; s=aegir1 Received: from [192.168.10.3] (unknown [192.168.10.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aegir.dabus.com (Dabus) with ESMTPSA id 665025F2C7 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:51 -0700 From: Eric S Pulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <506EC8D7CA7BD1EA739F7B6D@[192.168.10.3]> In-Reply-To: <006a01ccb9b7$df4f1f40$9ded5dc0$@fisglobal.com> References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4989a3ebb7810ed26951cbbd23b7645c.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> <4EE6943E.40400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <006a01ccb9b7$df4f1f40$9ded5dc0$@fisglobal.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: RE: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:55:50 -0000 --On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 08:54:23 AM -0800 Devin Teske wrote: > We're seeing in 8.1-RELEASE that "nodev" is an invalid option for NFS > mounts that causes your system to boot into single-user mode. Is this > still the case in 9.0-RC2/3 or has the option been re-added? "nodev" was > a valid option in 4.11-RELEASE, not sure why it was removed (and/or made > invalid). > -- > Devin > No that was just a guideline for generic unix security practices if nodev isn't support by the filesystem there is nothing you can do about it. Not a FreeBSD specific issue. Sorry for the confusion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:34:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7576B1065677 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF3798FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2011 19:34:34 -0000 Received: from adsl-11.109.242.89.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.194]) [109.242.89.11] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 20:34:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19k98BEsdZk+5p754mQpO+saRCtJ9yVWIKXKkBjOG oEFFzoIkyY2ME/ Message-ID: <4EE7A8BC.1080402@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:34:20 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Hoffman References: <4EE77667.9060501@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EE77667.9060501@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disabling geom_journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:34:36 -0000 On 12/13/2011 5:59 PM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > Hi all, > I'm sure I have seen this come up before but a google doesnt > help. I am trying to disable gjournal on a disk so i can move to suj as > part of moving on to the 9.x series, I have umounted the FS but when i > try to stop the journal it automatically starts it on the gtpid of the > device and if i stop that it goes back to the original device name. > > [root@ostracod ~/doc]# gjournal list > Geom name: gjournal 2909580316 > ID: 2909580316 > Providers: > 1. Name: ada1p2.journal > Mediasize: 494739118080 (460G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ada1p2 > Mediasize: 495812860416 (461G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Stripesize: 0 > Stripeoffset: 17408 > Mode: r1w1e1 > Jend: 495812859904 > Jstart: 494739118080 > Role: Data,Journal > > [root@ostracod ~/doc]# gjournal stop ada1p2.journal > [root@ostracod ~/doc]# gjournal list > Geom name: gjournal 2909580316 > ID: 2909580316 > Providers: > 1. Name: gptid/9e1798be-b5f3-11de-a1eb-00012e273257.journal > Mediasize: 494739118080 (460G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > Consumers: > 1. Name: gptid/9e1798be-b5f3-11de-a1eb-00012e273257 > Mediasize: 495812860416 (461G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Stripesize: 0 > Stripeoffset: 17408 > Mode: r1w1e1 > Jend: 495812859904 > Jstart: 494739118080 > Role: Data,Journal > > > Any idea how to stop this without setting kern.geom.label.gptid.enable=0 > in my loader.conf and rebooting? You don't have to reboot, just set kern.geom.label.gptid.enable to zero, gjournal stop ada1p2, gjournal clear ada1p2 and re-enable gptid labels. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:55:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86941065670 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linnemannr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9278E8FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3so540516pbc.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rqTOu9ZXj70ZF8wgmDVf7/fQ8WL28DcPLcNQeXk0xaM=; b=q70ohu1k50RgMspQDYKYD1k2FQow7diP6DFtSmhYi6aQGRFxCgA9tLXKdNbzIE4UBe pTbUOXFyzHEuBWRkcnt4mHgIG0w4xBlk+EBPMMzNNjJxu6AhIGYxUc9Vy/zsZ5x6aVpA GYQdaGCEZ4Z/CZpPkLK74Ltn8jjq3n+BVYDGk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.74.4 with SMTP id p4mr45961128pbv.123.1323806156989; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: linnemannr@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.195.13 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:55:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE57E87.40409@mage.hu> References: <4EE57E87.40409@mage.hu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:55:56 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SzZ6Kdtr2qtFzG5WHMtmfrbb0hM Message-ID: From: Reid Linnemann To: Mage Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add vs portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:55:57 -0000 On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Mage wrote: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Hello, > > why is that > > "pkg_add -r x11/kde4" could not install kde4 (404 not found) but "portmas= ter > -P x11/kde4" did, however > "portmaster -P xorg" didn't install xorg (it just reinstalled some module= s) > then "pkg_add -r xorg" installed it. > > I am a bit confused with these. > > I was reading this: > http://freebsd.kde.org/ > and this: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html > > First I installed kde4 then xorg. My ports are up to date. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mage > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I think what you're running into here is a difference in semantics between the pkg_* tools and the ports tools. When using pkg_add -r, you do not need to specify the category. pkg_add will determine the proper objformat and release to fetch from ftp, so in this case "pkg_add -r xorg" will work just fine. When you use portmaster, it's the opposite. You do need to tell it 'x11/xorg' so it knows you want a specific port in /usr/ports instead of a glob pattern of an existing port in /var/db/pkg - see this in the SYNOPSIS section of the man page portmaster(8) ... portmaster [Common Flags] full name of port directory in /var/db/pkg portmaster [Common Flags] full path to /usr/ports/foo/bar portmaster [Common Flags] glob pattern of directories from /var/db/pkg ... Does that make more sense? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:23:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3992106566B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345C08FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so462655wgb.31 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:23:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mIiFA4P5EGpLrpCswepj7FUe8S/p2bfVwnhwpD3pyvc=; b=AJalLbG7n5F0cIjf9+XTGBHAgGGltVjSrGeNjAcea+rniyfOsMmTmEEMq07kn1eje3 HVElwl31RduuinHd9s76n/jmD/bECLgH73NpmdjbfCBlmV8mD8X88V3jifAbNhk3XAwI QJp/+tj2wGPIKYCn/3L1hMnrjArAVoJ1PuiaM= Received: by 10.180.73.193 with SMTP id n1mr1151927wiv.1.1323822206196; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v10sm1018412wiy.23.2011.12.13.16.23.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:23:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:23:22 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111214002322.09da0955@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE79220.8050007@rambler.ru> References: <4EE79220.8050007@rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Free memory exhausted by networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:23:27 -0000 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:57:52 +0700 Dmitriy Kryuk wrote: > I'm running Transmission (http://www.transmissionbt.com/), =D0=B0 > BitTorrent client on my FreeBSD 7.2 box. It requests large recieve > buffers for its network connections. This leaves my system with > absolutely no free memory. If some process frees a large amount of > memory, it gets consumed about 1.5 megabytes per second until it > drops to zero. I don't seem to have any problems like denied network > connections or memory allocation, but it makes my system swap in and > out often. As top shows: >=20 > CPU: 24.9% user, 0.0% nice, 27.2% system, 33.1% interrupt, 14.8% idle > Mem: 217M Active, 143M Inact, 105M Wired, 25M Cache, 59M Buf, 8K Free > Swap: 4352M Total, 236K Used, 4352M Free Swapping doesn't have much to do with low free memory. There's actually very little swap use, but only 2 pages of free memory. I think that means that the memory is being used for interrupt handling, because anything else would allocate from the cache queue well before that happened.=20 You might try switching the interface to polling or increasing both of the free memory watermarks vm.v_free_min and vm.v_free_target.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:57:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25CF1065670 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0272E8FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local ([10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBE0uv46070609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:56:58 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4EE7F457.80000@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:56:55 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <4EE77667.9060501@unsane.co.uk> <4EE7A8BC.1080402@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE7A8BC.1080402@gmx.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disabling geom_journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:57:01 -0000 On 13/12/2011 19:34, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > On 12/13/2011 5:59 PM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: >> Hi all, >> I'm sure I have seen this come up before but a google doesnt >> help. I am trying to disable gjournal on a disk so i can move to suj as >> part of moving on to the 9.x series, I have umounted the FS but when i >> try to stop the journal it automatically starts it on the gtpid of the >> device and if i stop that it goes back to the original device name. >> > You don't have to reboot, just set kern.geom.label.gptid.enable to zero, > gjournal stop ada1p2, gjournal clear ada1p2 and re-enable gptid labels. > > HTH, Nikos Thanks Nikos, I assumed it was a boot time only option for some reason. That worked a treat. Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:45:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EC01065675 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3290F8FC12 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBE3jfX6060894 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:45:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:45:41 -0800 Message-ID: <1323834341.50157.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: pBE3jfX6060894 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-yoursite-MailScanner-Watermark: 1324439143.05593@Zrg3eWlCYYIyDDkJc6W+CA Subject: Forward error correction routines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 03:45:47 -0000 I am looking for /any/ forward error correction code under FreeBSD, whether Hamming Codes, Golay Codes, Reed-Solomon, BCH codes, etc. or convolution encoders/decoders. All I've found is: * libfec, which only runs under i386 (I am 64 bit), and * reed-solomon, which is merely a library and no executables. Is there any usable utilities? Clue please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:10:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12711065673 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9ADF8FC12 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:10:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 22577289 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:10:00 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBE59xbF035072 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:09:59 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pBE59xmY035071 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:09:59 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:09:59 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111214050959.GA34547@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: carp(4) on FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:10:11 -0000 Colleagues, Are there any success stories or known issues with carp(4) on FreeBSD 8.2? I have configured a carp interface: router1# ifconfig le0 le0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 08:00:27:aa:6a:bd inet 10.14.135.88 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.14.135.255 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active router1# router1# ifconfig carp0 carp0: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 inet 10.14.134.99 netmask 0xfffffe00 carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 0 router1# But for some reason I can ping 10.14.135.88, but cannot ping 10.14.134.99. There seem to be ARP responses however: $ arp -an | grep 10.14.134.99 ? (10.14.134.99) at 00:00:5e:00:01:01 on re0 [ethernet] This looks like a VRRP MAC address for sure. And this MAC address is present in the switch forwarding table: Core5>sh mac-address-table | i 0000.5e00.0101 1 0000.5e00.0101 DYNAMIC Fa0/18 What is even more strange, tcpdump on le0 does not even see ICMP echo requests addressed to 10.14.134.99. What am I doing wrong? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:49:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B238D1065673 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxisone@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2768FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3so795303pbc.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:49:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=893L5oqtP3u3nNFM63bMLfNx+2uSBXCti2iuWG1kKXo=; b=n5IyBpSvl2vwRiVWCPLu4jkgG6QdolgRp83pZeNOgHpRvuMfHAQBCWfN7clcs67Uyo A1nx95B4YHlajQvlE2DSO7f3kHPDi2vlnpOs4marxJJGyOarCafs0RxFeQybPlMLxyB9 t9Z9YaY9XRIwWcKP2htK93cbDdsR6yRxAYyqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.197.138 with SMTP id iu10mr1867319pbc.27.1323845364150; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:49:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: linuxisone@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.58.135 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:49:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:49:24 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UOSkBo4XrmLKUEooMS8bLxm6Zro Message-ID: From: LinuxIsOne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:49:24 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0&feature=relmfu Cool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:49:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531011065672 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxisone@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C71F8FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dakp5 with SMTP id p5so507989dak.13 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:49:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TjkqYM4fHUWVB0px9bsYSQDDDMRGG5u7azLPcaMHKO4=; b=uf9I0VHxuEiZhN9q7qetxMogMzYaeAcUhQrbkIC89v7bu2RARzvv17JOw4Ieq9taJh yHFBPNn77mqRgwh/AsQlypdMVTSX7VlhFBTxLPhYhBWLzbx/qjd9jj/OO91fgmcAhev/ 0C80M4AuQRl1iDppa7PLtEt4fykbfbr1B0UPk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.75.135 with SMTP id c7mr1740984pbw.112.1323845383944; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:49:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: linuxisone@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.58.135 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:49:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:49:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 97VrrGldHACrpFt8-NTMI8LLCBE Message-ID: From: LinuxIsOne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:49:45 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > /usr/src/share/misc/bsd-family-tree Oh Yes, thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 07:06:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBACD1065673 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skat@aport.ru) Received: from sovam.com (mail.email.ru [194.67.1.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519D38FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:06:17 +0000 (UTC) X-SO-Flag: NO X-Spam-Yversion: Caramba_v1.0 Received: from [188.232.79.69] (account skat@aport.ru) by mail-be03.sovam.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.20) with HTTP id 10419199 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:06:05 +0400 From: "Oleg simonoff" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.20 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:06:05 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8;format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: What unix program for a check the kernel file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:06:18 -0000 Hi to users of UNIX! What unix program is available for a check of a configuration file of the kernel? I`ve got some trouble with configuration of my new kernel.... but i`d like to find my mistakes myself.... But if those mistakes will't be eliminated independently, i will write to you again. Yours Oleg.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 07:59:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2C7106566B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@canmos.ru) Received: from sta1.canmos.ru (sta1.canmos.ru [89.107.124.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7673C8FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sta1.canmos.ru (sta1.canmos.ru [89.107.124.11]) by sta1.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEFF127A43; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:59:13 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:59:11 +0400 (MSK) From: "Igor V. Ruzanov" To: Oleg simonoff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: X-GPG-PUBLIC-KEY: 1024D/494AF6DC 2008-03-20 Igor V. Ruzanov X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: A723 B6CC 11ED A4E2 1909 C4DC 6EDE 9089 494A F6DC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What unix program for a check the kernel file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:59:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Oleg simonoff wrote: | |Hi to users of UNIX! | |What unix program is available for a check of a configuration file of the |kernel? | |I`ve got some trouble with configuration of my new kernel.... but i`d like to |find my mistakes myself.... |But if those mistakes will't be eliminated independently, i will write to you |again. | Please read the handbook - great thing to become FreeBSD guru: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html 9-th section: Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel +-------------------------------------------+ ! CANMOS ISP Network ! +-------------------------------------------+ ! Best regards ! ! Igor V. Ruzanov, network operational staff! ! e-Mail: igorr@canmos.ru ! +-------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iD8DBQFO6FdRbt6QiUlK9twRApn6AJwNwevR7J1uASBVf0/5C8EWwNls5QCgr0nU xn6FF1QHSBWYDwbC1/s+a/g= =HvC4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:01:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80CF106564A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB4A8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekc50 with SMTP id c50so548361eek.13 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:01:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MMRg1sgZ9krI18kESaEmiGZqIdOagnE/q6SVvKXlY4E=; b=fL/u8idV28FZzqaCkPJACTwpdnb3tLupqSAQq05C3uYItEE/cPIkLsaqYhVvSGYh4q NxsNXGiHMQt/cRhjY4/eLLn9GeQUFf8/LpXYTTRLDd8J7MLumokKJWesMvQdWbj2pIHI u1pBge9O3PiXQEC0wYKBMsZV9pTZQASfS9PME= Received: by 10.14.99.132 with SMTP id x4mr994693eef.74.1323849686161; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.50.104] (double-l.xs4all.nl. [80.126.205.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f1sm3133242eea.3.2011.12.14.00.01.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:01:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE857D3.2060504@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:01:23 +0100 From: Johan Hendriks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20111214050959.GA34547@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20111214050959.GA34547@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Victor Sudakov Subject: Re: carp(4) on FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:01:27 -0000 Victor Sudakov schreef: > Colleagues, > > Are there any success stories or known issues with carp(4) on FreeBSD > 8.2? I have configured a carp interface: > > router1# ifconfig le0 > le0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 08:00:27:aa:6a:bd > inet 10.14.135.88 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.14.135.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect > status: active > router1# > router1# ifconfig carp0 > carp0: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 > inet 10.14.134.99 netmask 0xfffffe00 > carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 0 > router1# > > But for some reason I can ping 10.14.135.88, but cannot ping > 10.14.134.99. There seem to be ARP responses however: > > $ arp -an | grep 10.14.134.99 > ? (10.14.134.99) at 00:00:5e:00:01:01 on re0 [ethernet] > > This looks like a VRRP MAC address for sure. And this MAC address is > present in the switch forwarding table: > Core5>sh mac-address-table | i 0000.5e00.0101 > 1 0000.5e00.0101 DYNAMIC Fa0/18 > > What is even more strange, tcpdump on le0 does not even see ICMP echo > requests addressed to 10.14.134.99. > > What am I doing wrong? Can you show your relevant rc.conf settings. For both master and slave machine, also the relevant sysctl.conf settings could help. regards Johan Hendriks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 09:12:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E92106564A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FC868FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Dec 2011 09:12:31 -0000 Received: from adsl-11.109.242.89.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.194]) [109.242.89.11] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu006) with SMTP; 14 Dec 2011 10:12:31 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18WpFkgqk0WpKFmkUackUw7dQNEo4iIev/14AUY+P iDD6CTWXK3meap Message-ID: <4EE86870.7000501@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:12:16 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Glatting References: <1323834341.50157.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> In-Reply-To: <1323834341.50157.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forward error correction routines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:12:33 -0000 On 12/14/2011 5:45 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: > I am looking for /any/ forward error correction code under FreeBSD, > whether Hamming Codes, Golay Codes, Reed-Solomon, BCH codes, etc. or > convolution encoders/decoders. > > All I've found is: > > * libfec, which only runs under i386 (I am 64 bit), and > * reed-solomon, which is merely a library and no executables. > > Is there any usable utilities? Clue please. You could try this: http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/rsbep.html It is meant to be used with storage devices and does interleaving so it can recover a lost sector. Hint: the decoded output contains garbage at the end, you have to use the included utility(or dd) to get the correct file size. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 09:26:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2221065670 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86B38FC14 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:25:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 22584203 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:25:57 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBE9PvUZ040503 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:25:57 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pBE9Pv8q040502 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:25:57 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:25:57 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111214092557.GB38586@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20111214050959.GA34547@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4EE857D3.2060504@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EE857D3.2060504@gmail.com> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: carp(4) on FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:26:00 -0000 Johan Hendriks wrote: > > > > Are there any success stories or known issues with carp(4) on FreeBSD > > 8.2? I have configured a carp interface: [dd] > > But for some reason I can ping 10.14.135.88, but cannot ping > > 10.14.134.99. There seem to be ARP responses however: [dd] > > What am I doing wrong? > Can you show your relevant rc.conf settings. What settings are relevant? I really did not use rc.conf to configure carp. I just did manually ifconfig carp0 create ifconfig carp0 vhid 1 pass XXXXXXXXX 10.14.134.99/23 and the same on the other host. > For both master and slave machine, also the relevant sysctl.conf > settings could help. sysctl.conf is really empty, these are just vanilla boxes in a lab. router1# sysctl -a | grep carp net.inet.ip.same_prefix_carp_only: 0 net.inet.carp.allow: 1 net.inet.carp.preempt: 0 net.inet.carp.log: 1 net.inet.carp.arpbalance: 0 net.inet.carp.suppress_preempt: 0 router1# ipfw list 65535 allow ip from any to any Well, _almost_ vanilla boxes. They have custom kernels: include GENERIC ident FW device carp device lagg options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #packet destination changes options IPFIREWALL_NAT #ipfw kernel nat support options LIBALIAS options QUOTA #enable disk quotas options ROUTETABLES=4 # $Header: svn://big/configs/kernels/trunk/FW 2967 2011-12-13 10:08:29Z sudakov $ -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 12:36:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27B91065676 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skat@aport.ru) Received: from sovam.com (mail.email.ru [194.67.1.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757958FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:36:18 +0000 (UTC) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Dec 14 16:36:16 2011 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.8764 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-AttachExt: boot X-AttachExt: 2011-10-12 X-SO-Flag: NO X-Spam-Yversion: Caramba_v1.0 Received: from [188.232.15.224] (account skat@aport.ru) by mail-be04.sovam.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.20) with HTTP id 11295894 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:36:07 +0400 From: "Oleg simonoff" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.20 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:36:07 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_===11295894====mail-be04.sovam.com===_" Subject: some troble with compilation of newkernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:36:20 -0000 This is a multi-part MIME message --_===11295894====mail-be04.sovam.com===_ Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8;format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi users! I`ve got freeBSD8.2 system. Before the assemblage of a kernel the file has been checked up by config. The syntax of a file was correct. But the compilation was not completed .......................................... Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/newkernel. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ............................... About the error see in compile_err lile, and remaining information about the hardware and the kernel file see the attached files. 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X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:20:30 -0000 I am running FreeBSD-8.2-STABLE-amd64, last update was a few weeks ago. I r= un Samba-3.6 on this server and it has served me well for my Windows client= s to store and share files. All was working fine until recently I've began = to notice that whenever I save a file to this server, they always end up wi= th permissions which force me to open them in RO mode when I access them la= ter. The message I'm seeing on the Windows clients is that the file is lock= ed by another user. I check and the owners of the file are root:my_user_acc= ount. The permissions are set to rwxr-xr-x. I'm not sure why the root accou= nt shows up in the ownership and like I said this was working fine before.= =A0=A0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 16:11:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408C11065672 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0F18FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (87.194.237.233) by april.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E261E72047B335E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:11:27 +0000 Message-ID: <4EE8CAAF.3020500@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:11:27 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1323040542.64352.YahooMailNeo@web122218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EDCBB72.9070502@onetel.com> <4EDCC89F.9010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EDCC89F.9010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I am FreeBSD user. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:11:30 -0000 On 05/12/2011 13:35, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/12/2011 12:39, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> I thought the odd bit was >> >> ssuuddoo --VV | --hh | --ll | --LL | --vv | --kk | --KK | --ss | [ --HH >> ] [--PP ] [--SS ] [ --bb ] >> | [ --pp prompt ] [ --cc class|- ] [ --aa auth_type ] [ --uu >> username|#uid ] >> >> from the first link. >> >> Does anyone else see that or is it my browser? firefox-3.6.10,1 > > No -- your eyes are perfectly fine. It's a failure to render that text > properly as bold. On an ancient teletype that would have been done by > retyping the same character on top of the first one, which is ultimately > where all those doubled characters come from. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > I know it's trivial but I sent a PR (163149) with a patch (of sorts). Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:47:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D081065673 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokomull@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E76E8FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faaf16 with SMTP id f16so2324772faa.13 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:47:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RhRM7C7wmHQ2gxBC18G7Q2zrY1hl0h9cMMSLAPvun2Y=; b=FbmiEGVrihoeWArdhCupmO+DeuqquO61bdYUrgpBOjxxc1LNYZU1WbMaARbfUGiV/J VqPzBbqyC3SXy/n/wiBJ+RXC0UqVLfBi/viKqsjcaRE2WiTkGcyqae45/1KhxANAt9uC I39wMut0hV89XX0j9NWisAFvzWz01ipSEKVbw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.90.234 with SMTP id bz10mr7674557wib.46.1323892020116; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.154.135 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:47:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111214092557.GB38586@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20111214050959.GA34547@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4EE857D3.2060504@gmail.com> <20111214092557.GB38586@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:47:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Mullins To: Victor Sudakov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: carp(4) on FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:47:01 -0000 I've used carp very successfully in the past, both in the standard mode and ARP load-balancing mode, to build fail-over sets of firewalls. It worked well enough that one of our firewalls was down for a week before we noticed (and none of our clients did). I just did a mock-up of your scenario on a system at home (using the GENERIC kernel), and it seemed to work for me. I see you have a managed switch; you might see if some features like port security are disabled for that port. > What is even more strange, tcpdump on le0 does not even see ICMP echo > requests addressed to 10.14.134.99. That is strange. You might try "tcpdump -nevvv -i host 10.14.134.99" on the sending system and see if it's even sending the packets at all. If there's a remote chance that something else is using carp or VRRP on that network, you might try using a different VHID. Hope I can help, Matt Mullins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:06:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83FA106564A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829AB8FC19 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo305.cox.net ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111214200624.HTGN4752.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo305.cox.net>; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:06:24 -0500 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.80.83]) by eastrmimpo305.cox.net with bizsmtp id 986P1i0041nrG4q0286PmW; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:06:24 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020B.4EE901C0.00A7,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vqFyDM7axfrKYTz0ga6AfZB2D203zBxOT0Bd/A5efjk= c=1 sm=1 a=ORWRGUcNLPgA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bP8/21xuPmjjKiboDxlPZA==:17 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=KLowZ4P8FasMKFLaHcEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=bP8/21xuPmjjKiboDxlPZA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBEK6Mrv038083; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:06:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:06:17 -0600 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Sean Cavanaugh Message-ID: <20111214140617.0e86c44f@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'LinuxIsOne' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd is really bsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:06:31 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:55:14 -0500 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > > The best explanation I have ever seen to give people fresh to the BSD > project is the following youtube clip from years ago. It traces all > the way back to its origins and gives nice examples of some of the > "small" companies that use BSD derived code in their programs. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0&feature=relmfu Thanks for providing that link; I really enjoyed watching it. :-) To everyone else: if you're interested in the history of BSD, with a lighthearted, humorous and entertaining presentation, check out the above. Fun stuff! A lot of similarly entertaining and interesting links will turn up in the process as well. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:18:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2901D106564A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05C428FC1B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18565 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 21:18:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.131.50.227) by p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.105) with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2011 21:18:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4EE912BC.502@midsummerdream.org> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:18:52 -0600 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4ED98E9F.9010401@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA489B.9060503@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AHCI driver and static device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@midsummerdream.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:18:55 -0000 On 12/3/11 11:04 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > To answer your question, though: You cannot combine GPT with glabel (or > any other geom class that writes data to the first or last 34 sectors of > a disk, like gmirror) due to layout conflicts. MBR and BSD schemes can > be used, since they occupy only the first sectors of the device, and > their monikers will be appended to the label. Thus, labeling a > single-slice MBR disk (/dev/ada0) with 'test' would produce /dev/ada0, > /dev/ada0s1, /dev/label/test, and /dev/label/tests1; nesting a BSD table > within s1 would add /dev/ada0s1a and /dev/label/tests1a as well. Do gpt labels work the same as glabel, ie provide a static device name that can be acted upon with /etc/fstab, zfs, gmirror, etc? >> The other option seems to be to use tunefs or a partitioning tool to >> label each partition, which is even more ugly imo. > > Ugly how? Labels appear a lot more semantically elegant than the opaque > 'ada4s1a' moniker. Ugly in that the driver has created a situation where we need workarounds to perform the tasks we need. *nix systems have always relied upon static device nodes, and using dynamic names without updating the relating tools/methods is ugly. The workarounds also could fail if someone forgets to perform them (specifically labels), since it's not necessary on just about any other *nix system. It's perfectly within reason to assume people will forget to apply a label when replacing a disk. Case in point. I have a system with 15 drives in it. I decided I wanted to install on the 2nd device instead of the 1st, but I partitioned all the other 14 drives. I completed installation and when to boot the system and it failed. Stupid me, the GPT boot loader found disk1 with a partitioning scheme but no fs. So, I popped out disk 1 and when to boot again. Hey, now it starts to boot only to fail to find the root fs because it's looking on ada1 and the fs is on ada0. That is a mess. This is not necessarily common, but also not uncommon. More likely is the case where you add a drive to the system and the above scenario plays out because the device names get re-ordered. I'm not sure the problem the dynamic device nodes intends to solve, but it's certainly caused all sorts of pain and the need for the 2 (that I know of) workarounds. I dislike the idea of having to use labels to get static functionality (increases the likelihood of something going wrong for a disk replace operation if I forget to label), but I'll give gpt labels a try. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:20:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1CE1065714 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4BEF8FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2217 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 21:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.131.50.227) by p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.103) with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2011 21:20:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4EE91308.8050300@midsummerdream.org> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:20:08 -0600 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4ED98E9F.9010401@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA489B.9060503@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> <4edb4b48.LvOhZvvsP1inJeps%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4edb4b48.LvOhZvvsP1inJeps%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cyberleo@cyberleo.net, ryallsd@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI driver and static device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@midsummerdream.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:20:13 -0000 Can glabels, gpt, and zfs all work together? I have a system where I have disks with 4 gpt partitions. Partitions 2 and 3 are part of gmirror arrays, and partition 4 is part of a zfs pool. glabel says it writes to the end of the partition, which I believe zfs also writes to doesn't it? Rob On 12/4/11 4:28 AM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> You cannot combine GPT with glabel (or any other geom class >> that writes data to the first or last 34 sectors of a disk, >> like gmirror) due to layout conflicts. > > This is overstated. Since a GPT ordinarily is intended to be booted > from, and so must be recognized by the BIOS, it must be written > directly on the actual drive -- the "rank 1 provider" in GEOM terms > -- because that is the only way for the GPT metadata to be located > where the BIOS expects to find it (at both the beginning and the end > of the drive). > > It is, however, possible to combine GPT with gmirror, gjournal, > etc. by using GPT partitions, rather than drives, as providers > for the other geoms. For example, create a mirror from ad0p1 > and ad2p1 rather than from ad0 and ad2. Similarly, it "should" > be possible to glabel a GPT partition -- although this seems > unlikely to be useful in practice since GPT provides its own > labelling scheme. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:00:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA881065673 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@suiyuan.de) Received: from mail.a4a.de (mail.a4a.de [178.63.189.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF118FC12 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web.a4a.de ([178.63.189.68]) by mail.a4a.de with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RayZ5-0007TB-PN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:48:53 +0100 Received: from www-data by web.a4a.de with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RayZ4-00040R-8h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:48:46 +0100 To: X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:func.inc Received: from host-188-174-189-254.customer.m-online.net ([188.174.189.254]) by webmail.a4a.de with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:48:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:48:46 +0100 From: Ouyang Xueyu Message-ID: <1713141ab96978d89b2fa4d2ef2a6c76@mail.a4a.de> X-Sender: freebsd@suiyuan.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5.3 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, SPF_FAIL, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Subject: acpi problem on dell latitude d830 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:00:41 -0000 Hello! I`ve just installed freebsd 8.2 i386 stable on a Dell Latitude D830. I`m using gnome 2 with HAL and DBUS successfully. My notebook is not able to go into sleeping mode, it doesn`t work when I use "acpiconf -s 3" or "acpiconf -s 4". Mode S3 gets it into sleep mode, but it freezes after wake-up with a distorted screen. In mode S4 (suspend-to-disk) it isn`t even able to get into sleeping mode. I want to initiate S4 state by closing the lid. I also want to use the docking station. I would like to use the hot-docking functionality. The docking station has a power switch, which functions properly. It also has an undocking-button, which causes a freeze of the system. The audio-out on the docking-station is also not working. PS/2 keyboard, ethernet and USB on the docking-station is working. My kernel was compiled with acpi_dock. dmesg says: acpi_dock0: on acpi0 acpi_dock0: _DCK failed Xueyu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:42:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D98A10656D3 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FB98FC12 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D3622E80662; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:42:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:42:31 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20111215004227.GA9075@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:42:33 -0000 hi y'all:) i am making steady progress in learning gtk. i'll spare the list my usual rambling and get rt to the point. is the a way of starting off vim or gvim and be able to type into the editor _without_ first typing: a,i,o,O,I,A, or any other character? or is this just one more thing to include in my brief tutorial? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:09:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FA8106566B for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B112B8FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pBF1BKuB022106; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:11:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:11:20 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201112150111.pBF1BKuB022106@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org In-Reply-To: <20111215004227.GA9075@thought.org> Cc: Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:09:12 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 14 18:46:46 2011 > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:42:31 -0800 > From: Gary Kline > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Cc: > Subject: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? > > > hi y'all:) > > i am making steady progress in learning gtk. i'll spare the list my > usual rambling and get rt to the point. > > is the a way of starting off vim or gvim and be able to type into > the editor _without_ first typing: > > a,i,o,O,I,A, or any other character? Did you bother to look at the manpage for the program in question, *BEFORE* mailing the list?? If so, what did you find? What did you try? And what were the results? If not, *WHY*NOT*?? be specific. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:16:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9460E1065670 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DD48FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73FB028405; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:16:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE94A78.1030506@cyberleo.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:16:40 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111204 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lists@midsummerdream.org References: <4ED98E9F.9010401@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA489B.9060503@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> <4edb4b48.LvOhZvvsP1inJeps%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4EE91308.8050300@midsummerdream.org> In-Reply-To: <4EE91308.8050300@midsummerdream.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ryallsd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI driver and static device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:16:42 -0000 On 12/14/2011 03:20 PM, Rob wrote: > Can glabels, gpt, and zfs all work together? I have a system where I > have disks with 4 gpt partitions. Partitions 2 and 3 are part of gmirror > arrays, and partition 4 is part of a zfs pool. glabel says it writes to > the end of the partition, which I believe zfs also writes to doesn't it? Yup. However, all nestable geoms protect their metadata (when it exists) by providing a device that is smaller, so any nested consumer never even sees the provider's metadata. The end of the glabel device to which zfs writes its metadata in your implied example is actually several sectors prior to the end of the device or partition to which glabel writes its metadata. Explicit glabels are not strictly necessary with the GPT partitioning scheme, since the glabel module can peek into the GPT data structure, extract label names from there, and automatically create appropriate /dev/gpt/ entries for those labels. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 02:05:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA37106564A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DBA8FC13 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC16428405; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:05:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE955E7.4010708@cyberleo.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:05:27 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111204 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lists@midsummerdream.org References: <4ED98E9F.9010401@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA489B.9060503@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> <4EE912BC.502@midsummerdream.org> In-Reply-To: <4EE912BC.502@midsummerdream.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI driver and static device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:05:30 -0000 On 12/14/2011 03:18 PM, Rob wrote: > On 12/3/11 11:04 AM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: >> To answer your question, though: You cannot combine GPT with glabel (or >> any other geom class that writes data to the first or last 34 sectors of >> a disk, like gmirror) due to layout conflicts. MBR and BSD schemes can >> be used, since they occupy only the first sectors of the device, and >> their monikers will be appended to the label. Thus, labeling a >> single-slice MBR disk (/dev/ada0) with 'test' would produce /dev/ada0, >> /dev/ada0s1, /dev/label/test, and /dev/label/tests1; nesting a BSD table >> within s1 would add /dev/ada0s1a and /dev/label/tests1a as well. > > Do gpt labels work the same as glabel, ie provide a static device name > that can be acted upon with /etc/fstab, zfs, gmirror, etc? Yes. It's actually handled by the same geom class. >>> The other option seems to be to use tunefs or a partitioning tool to >>> label each partition, which is even more ugly imo. >> >> Ugly how? Labels appear a lot more semantically elegant than the opaque >> 'ada4s1a' moniker. > > Ugly in that the driver has created a situation where we need > workarounds to perform the tasks we need. *nix systems have always > relied upon static device nodes, and using dynamic names without > updating the relating tools/methods is ugly. The workarounds also could > fail if someone forgets to perform them (specifically labels), since > it's not necessary on just about any other *nix system. It's perfectly > within reason to assume people will forget to apply a label when > replacing a disk. Anything fails if you forget to do it. Administrative failure should not be confused with technical failure. Static device nodes are appropriate when the topology is fixed and can be reasonably anticipated. With variable topologies, such as USB, iSCSI, multipath, and PCI hotswap, the disk controllers may not even exist at boot, or may be reordered based on probe order, or the order in which the remote units respond; and that's before the kernel even gets around to setting up the devices attached to those controllers. You cannot reasonably expect the system to statically allocate device nodes for every possible configuration that may exist for all technologies that might be added to a machine, so why offer the expectation when the system cannot possibly hope to fulfill it for even a fraction of the common cases? > Case in point. I have a system with 15 drives in it. I decided I > wanted to install on the 2nd device instead of the 1st, but I > partitioned all the other 14 drives. I completed installation and when > to boot the system and it failed. Stupid me, the GPT boot loader found > disk1 with a partitioning scheme but no fs. So, I popped out disk 1 and > when to boot again. Hey, now it starts to boot only to fail to find the > root fs because it's looking on ada1 and the fs is on ada0. That is a > mess. Sounds like a bug in the BIOS or boot loader. The boot loader should be able to ask the BIOS for the device from which it read the boot code, and use that instead of just naively using the the first available device in the system; the only instances where I've seen this fail have been on machines that should've been put down years ago. Which isn't to say it doesn't still happen. > This is not necessarily common, but also not uncommon. More likely is > the case where you add a drive to the system and the above scenario > plays out because the device names get re-ordered. I'm not sure the > problem the dynamic device nodes intends to solve, but it's certainly > caused all sorts of pain and the need for the 2 (that I know of) > workarounds. How about when you add a PATA drive to a machine, but the cable is blocking the last available bay; so you have to move an existing drive to a different position on the cable to make room for the one you're installing? Static device numbering won't save you now. Or how about those silly BIOSes that assume that you must really want to boot to the new disk you just attached to the machine, so helpfully rearrange your boot order for you so now you're booting to a strange disk with who knows what on it? Honestly, there's so much that can go wrong. That's what sysadmins are for. > I dislike the idea of having to use labels to get static functionality > (increases the likelihood of something going wrong for a disk replace > operation if I forget to label), but I'll give gpt labels a try. I find that labels solve more problems than they introduce, when applied properly. The semantic meaning given to the devices often mean I can discover what's on a particular disk in my pile'o'drives just by plugging it in and looking at the kernel log; no mounting necessary. Likewise, when juggling disks or controllers around, I don't have to worry about remembering to update the fstab, since the labels follow the data. This is a lot better than my Linux machine, where I have to do some rather interesting hacks in the initrd just to make sure the root mirror is assembled regardless of where its disks might have attached this boot. If you're worried that you'll forget steps during a disk replacement, I have found that detailing a runbook beforehand helps a lot. I have several I keep on a wiki so that I can remember all the steps needed to set up a new installation, replace a disk, or perform other maintenance tasks that are too intermittent for my poor memory to suffice. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 02:06:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633AF106566B for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hg@queue.to) Received: from pickle.queue.to (pickle.queue.to [71.180.69.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AC38FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33628 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2011 21:06:16 -0500 Received: from cally.queue.to (172.16.0.6) by pickle.queue.to with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2011 21:06:16 -0500 Message-ID: <4EE95618.1040404@queue.to> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:06:16 -0500 From: Howard Goldstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@pki2.com References: <1323834341.50157.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> In-Reply-To: <1323834341.50157.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [PATCH] Re: Forward error correction routines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:06:17 -0000 On 12/13/2011 22:45, Dennis Glatting wrote: > I am looking for /any/ forward error correction code under FreeBSD, > whether Hamming Codes, Golay Codes, Reed-Solomon, BCH codes, etc. or > convolution encoders/decoders. > > All I've found is: > > * libfec, which only runs under i386 (I am 64 bit), and Here are patches allowing libfec to compile on amd64. I'll submit a pr. *** libfec/Makefile.orig 2011-12-14 20:34:24.653733990 -0500 --- libfec/Makefile 2011-12-14 20:50:52.306036812 -0500 *************** *** 22,31 **** GNU_CONFIGURE= yes USE_GMAKE= yes USE_LDCONFIG= yes ! ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 PLIST_FILES= include/fec.h lib/libfec.so lib/libfec.a post-patch: @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|gcc|${CC}|g' ${WRKSRC}/makefile.in .include --- 22,35 ---- GNU_CONFIGURE= yes USE_GMAKE= yes USE_LDCONFIG= yes ! ONLY_FOR_ARCHS= i386 amd64 PLIST_FILES= include/fec.h lib/libfec.so lib/libfec.a post-patch: @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|gcc|${CC}|g' ${WRKSRC}/makefile.in .include + + .if ${ARCH} == "amd64" + CFLAGS+= -fPIC + .endif *** /dev/null 2011-12-14 20:57:48.000000000 -0500 --- libfec/files/patch-dotprod.c 2011-12-14 20:44:01.336529860 -0500 *************** *** 0 **** --- 1,12 ---- + *** dotprod.c 2006-10-12 21:10:53.000000000 -0400 + --- ../../foowork/fec-3.0.1/dotprod.c 2011-12-14 20:43:00.132752233 -0500 + *************** + *** 54,59 **** + --- 54,60 ---- + switch(Cpu_mode){ + case PORT: + default: + + return feedp_port(p); + #ifdef __i386__ + case MMX: + case SSE: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 03:33:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A694D106566B for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F968FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B80CCE8059D; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:33:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:33:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20111215033334.GA10875@thought.org> References: <20111215004227.GA9075@thought.org> <201112150111.pBF1BKuB022106@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201112150111.pBF1BKuB022106@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:33:35 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 07:11:20PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:11:20 -0600 (CST) > From: Robert Bonomi > Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org > Cc: > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 14 18:46:46 2011 > > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:42:31 -0800 > > From: Gary Kline > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Cc: > > Subject: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? > > > > > > hi y'all:) > > > > i am making steady progress in learning gtk. i'll spare the list my > > usual rambling and get rt to the point. > > > > is the a way of starting off vim or gvim and be able to type into > > the editor _without_ first typing: > > > > a,i,o,O,I,A, or any other character? > > > Did you bother to look at the manpage for the program in question, *BEFORE* > mailing the list?? > > If so, what did you find? What did you try? And what were the results? > > If not, *WHY*NOT*?? be specific. of course i checked the man page; that doesnt mean there is some undocumented method that someone here found. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 04:14:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B69106564A; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB128FC14; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so3044650wgb.31 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:14:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=KWZTJPPg5EnTNm6+SXPQfJgTq8dy9UXIbEc7gf0r6TM=; b=AMPqcB9GDPvpSVOyoivlp8Fmndm7ajLCNUzKAofEXXlm5uTHUYsPCEcOdQNsUdkyWj EJMUusJLUx3yJ+1TaTcW0/20qHyUfn5eyX0Ffo4c+3TCMPWfBuwEMu1aSE1y//JvxnpU uPWhxl4d9VNFojXyiMWqSjs4Y0BWLrQRPNaWU= Received: by 10.216.133.106 with SMTP id p84mr557996wei.5.1323922496567; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-148-93.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.135.148.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hq5sm6549910wib.7.2011.12.14.20.14.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:14:55 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:15:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RC2; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1864485.uQkocZYE5C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201112150615.49952.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.34 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:14:58 -0000 --nextPart1864485.uQkocZYE5C Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.34 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. =20 There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world= =20 (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). =20 The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on= =20 installation (if the relevant files are accessable). 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:17:51 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote= : > To everyone else: if you're interested in the history of BSD, with a > lighthearted, humorous and entertaining presentation, check out the > above. =A0Fun stuff! =A0A lot of similarly entertaining and interesting > links will turn up in the process as well. I already told cool! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 05:24:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85857106564A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 603B18FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11744 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 05:24:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.131.50.227) by p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.82) with ESMTP; 15 Dec 2011 05:24:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4EE98482.1030509@midsummerdream.org> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:24:18 -0600 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4ED98E9F.9010401@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA489B.9060503@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> <4EE912BC.502@midsummerdream.org> <4EE955E7.4010708@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4EE955E7.4010708@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: AHCI driver and static device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@midsummerdream.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:24:20 -0000 On 12/14/11 8:05 PM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: >>>> The other option seems to be to use tunefs or a partitioning tool to >>>> label each partition, which is even more ugly imo. >>> >>> Ugly how? Labels appear a lot more semantically elegant than the opaque >>> 'ada4s1a' moniker. >> >> Ugly in that the driver has created a situation where we need >> workarounds to perform the tasks we need. *nix systems have always >> relied upon static device nodes, and using dynamic names without >> updating the relating tools/methods is ugly. The workarounds also could >> fail if someone forgets to perform them (specifically labels), since >> it's not necessary on just about any other *nix system. It's perfectly >> within reason to assume people will forget to apply a label when >> replacing a disk. > > Anything fails if you forget to do it. Administrative failure should not > be confused with technical failure. When you're changing a paradigm that is known to administrators for decades, it's unreasonable not to expect a decent degree of failure. Especially when the reason for the technical change isn't clear and the new method isn't at all like the old (ie no disk is guaranteed to get the same id). > Static device nodes are appropriate when the topology is fixed and can > be reasonably anticipated. With variable topologies, such as USB, iSCSI, > multipath, and PCI hotswap, the disk controllers may not even exist at > boot, or may be reordered based on probe order, or the order in which > the remote units respond; and that's before the kernel even gets around > to setting up the devices attached to those controllers. You cannot > reasonably expect the system to statically allocate device nodes for > every possible configuration that may exist for all technologies that > might be added to a machine, so why offer the expectation when the > system cannot possibly hope to fulfill it for even a fraction of the > common cases? I grant you variable topologies makes things incredibly hairy, but there's no need to take that mess and inject it into how the fixed topology (the physical hw in the box) is handled. Trying to handle all topology types in a single space can be messy. This problem wouldn't exist if a fixed topology used the old naming (adXX) and the variable topologies used the new naming (adaXX). Even this is less than ideal because your variable topologies provide no guarantee of anything being the same, thus your system could boot 1 day and fail the next because someone added a new piece of hardware to the network. That's probably more the name of the game in variable topologies (adminA changes the configuration on $ImportantBootDevice and stuff breaks), but I certainly don't want that uncertainty with the hardware in a machine. I stated that updating the device naming w/o updating the methodologies that rely upon that device naming is asking for trouble. I can't say I know a solution nor that I'm an expert, but this seems like it will cause many more problems than it will solve. >> Case in point. I have a system with 15 drives in it. I decided I >> wanted to install on the 2nd device instead of the 1st, but I >> partitioned all the other 14 drives. I completed installation and when >> to boot the system and it failed. Stupid me, the GPT boot loader found >> disk1 with a partitioning scheme but no fs. So, I popped out disk 1 and >> when to boot again. Hey, now it starts to boot only to fail to find the >> root fs because it's looking on ada1 and the fs is on ada0. That is a >> mess. > > Sounds like a bug in the BIOS or boot loader. The boot loader should be > able to ask the BIOS for the device from which it read the boot code, > and use that instead of just naively using the the first available > device in the system; the only instances where I've seen this fail have > been on machines that should've been put down years ago. Which isn't to > say it doesn't still happen. No bug in the BIOS at all. It's simply a case of device boot order, and being that I installed on disk 2 but put a bootloader on disk 1 with no OS the result was expected. >> This is not necessarily common, but also not uncommon. More likely is >> the case where you add a drive to the system and the above scenario >> plays out because the device names get re-ordered. I'm not sure the >> problem the dynamic device nodes intends to solve, but it's certainly >> caused all sorts of pain and the need for the 2 (that I know of) >> workarounds. > > How about when you add a PATA drive to a machine, but the cable is > blocking the last available bay; so you have to move an existing drive > to a different position on the cable to make room for the one you're > installing? Static device numbering won't save you now. This is not the same thing at all. If I move a physical cable, or a drive on a cable, then yes I should expect things to change. I have made a physical change to the disk's connections, and I should expect something to come out of it. In my case, I have not moved the cabling of a disk at all and thus expect the device name to stay the same. All I have done is add a new disk to the controller. I have a reasonable expectation that that action should not re-order the device nodes and screw up god knows what (ALL mounts could break, and the system could even fail to boot). This is how things used to work, and in fact still do work in Linux and other *nix. > Or how about those silly BIOSes that assume that you must really want to > boot to the new disk you just attached to the machine, so helpfully > rearrange your boot order for you so now you're booting to a strange > disk with who knows what on it? > > Honestly, there's so much that can go wrong. That's what sysadmins are for. None of those are related to my point. If a something breaks before I boot the system, that's a whole other issue. I am talking about breaking filesystem mounting by changing an age old methodology. >> I dislike the idea of having to use labels to get static functionality >> (increases the likelihood of something going wrong for a disk replace >> operation if I forget to label), but I'll give gpt labels a try. > > I find that labels solve more problems than they introduce, when applied > properly. The semantic meaning given to the devices often mean I can > discover what's on a particular disk in my pile'o'drives just by > plugging it in and looking at the kernel log; no mounting necessary. > Likewise, when juggling disks or controllers around, I don't have to > worry about remembering to update the fstab, since the labels follow the > data. If you want to use labels then by all means use them. I can seem advantages to using them. What I'm saying is that it is broken to have to use them in order to fix issues with the ahci driver using dynamic device names. The fact that you have to use them to ensure your system doesn't break horribly when you do something simple like add a disk is a clear indication of a broken design in the ahci driver imho. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 05:35:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F66106564A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05F68FC1D for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:35:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 22609379 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:35:32 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBF5ZW4m060262 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:35:32 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pBF5ZWSb060261 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:35:32 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:35:32 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111215053532.GA60131@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20111214050959.GA34547@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4EE857D3.2060504@gmail.com> <20111214092557.GB38586@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: carp(4) on FreeBSD 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:35:35 -0000 Matt Mullins wrote: > I've used carp very successfully in the past, both in the standard > mode and ARP load-balancing mode, to build fail-over sets of > firewalls. It worked well enough that one of our firewalls was down > for a week before we noticed (and none of our clients did). I just > did a mock-up of your scenario on a system at home (using the GENERIC > kernel), and it seemed to work for me. > > I see you have a managed switch; you might see if some features like > port security are disabled for that port. It turned out even more interesting. The lab is virtual, and promiscuous mode was prohibited in the virtual NICs' properties on the hypervisor. Thanks to all who responded. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 09:11:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAE3106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3138FC12 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pBF9BIY4014872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:11:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pBF9BI2O014871; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00771; Thu, 15 Dec 11 01:03:04 PST Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:02:09 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: cyberleo@cyberleo.net Message-Id: <4eea1a01.qEj3VB/DCaWfmK+8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4ED98E9F.9010401@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA489B.9060503@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> <4EE912BC.502@midsummerdream.org> <4EE955E7.4010708@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4EE955E7.4010708@cyberleo.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lists@midsummerdream.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI driver and static device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:11:21 -0000 CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 12/14/2011 03:18 PM, Rob wrote: > > Case in point. I have a system with 15 drives in it. I decided > > I wanted to install on the 2nd device instead of the 1st, but > > I partitioned all the other 14 drives. I completed installation > > and when to boot the system and it failed. Stupid me, the GPT > > boot loader found disk1 with a partitioning scheme but no fs. > > So, I popped out disk 1 and when to boot again. Hey, now it > > starts to boot only to fail to find the root fs because it's > > looking on ada1 and the fs is on ada0. That is a mess. > > Sounds like a bug in the BIOS or boot loader. The boot loader > should be able to ask the BIOS for the device from which it > read the boot code, and use that instead of just naively using > the first available device in the system ... The BIOS does pass the BIOS disk number (0x80, 0x81, ...) to the bootloader. That's fine as long as the bootloader is using BIOS calls to read the disk, but how does the BIOS disk number get mapped, reliably, to an OS device identification? The BIOS can't do it, because it knows nothing about the OS, so the OS would have to do it => the OS must know a lot of detail about every BIOS on which it will ever run. This does not seem very practical, and that's at least part of the reason why labels were invented. I suppose if someone wanted to track down the "official" way of solving this problem, they could look into how Windows handles it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 10:55:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1771065678 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@fstaals.net) Received: from isp-bos-01.edutel.nl (isp-bos-02.edutel.nl [88.159.1.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BC18FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isp-aos-01.edutel.intern (unknown [10.115.3.110]) by isp-bos-01.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0992C62FB; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:39:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by isp-aos-01.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0F03DC434; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:39:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at isp-aos-01.edutel.intern Received: from isp-aos-01.edutel.intern ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (isp-aos-01.edutel.intern [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wzP5gVHy5dpM; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:39:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from fstaals.net (104-208.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl [88.159.208.104]) by isp-aos-01.edutel.intern (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C61C23DC317; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:39:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from fstaals.net (localhost.FStaals.LAN [127.0.0.1]) by filter.fstaals.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF49997046; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:39:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dyn-81-82.cs.uu.nl [131.211.81.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: frank) by fstaals.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E82D96ECC; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:39:21 +0100 (CET) From: Frank Staals To: Ouyang Xueyu References: <1713141ab96978d89b2fa4d2ef2a6c76@mail.a4a.de> User-Mail-Address: frank@fstaals.net Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:39:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1713141ab96978d89b2fa4d2ef2a6c76@mail.a4a.de> (Ouyang Xueyu's message of "Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:48:46 +0100") Message-ID: <87wr9yp19m.fsf@Shanna.FStaals.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi problem on dell latitude d830 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:55:16 -0000 Ouyang Xueyu writes: > Hello! > > I`ve just installed freebsd 8.2 i386 stable on a Dell Latitude D830. > I`m using gnome 2 with HAL and DBUS successfully. > > My notebook is not able to go into sleeping mode, it doesn`t work when I use > "acpiconf -s 3" or "acpiconf -s 4". Mode S3 gets it into sleep mode, but it > freezes > after wake-up with a distorted screen. > In mode S4 (suspend-to-disk) it isn`t even able to > get into sleeping mode. I want to initiate S4 state by closing the lid. I have a Latitude D630, which is basically the smaller brother of the D830. When it ran FreeBSD I had success in getting the D630 to sleep (s3) and resume. This was a while ago on 8-STABLE with amd64. At least back then, you would need an amd64 install to get this working (something with acpi being better in amd64 then it was in i386). I am not sure that is still the case, but I would not be surprised if it is. However, before you run off and reinstall: (again back then) both the bge and wpi driver (i.e. LAN and WLAN) did not work properly after resuming. This basically made sleeping the laptop useless. I'm not sure this is such good news, but I hope it is informative. If you manage to get it working let me know. Regards, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 11:47:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204EF10656D0 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5088FC16 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9F8A28405; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:47:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EE9DE43.4050402@cyberleo.net> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:47:15 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111204 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4ED98E9F.9010401@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA489B.9060503@midsummerdream.org> <4EDA56A3.6090108@cyberleo.net> <4EE912BC.502@midsummerdream.org> <4EE955E7.4010708@cyberleo.net> <4eea1a01.qEj3VB/DCaWfmK+8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4eea1a01.qEj3VB/DCaWfmK+8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lists@midsummerdream.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AHCI driver and static device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:47:18 -0000 On 12/15/2011 10:02 AM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > I suppose if someone wanted to track down the "official" way of > solving this problem, they could look into how Windows handles it. To my knowledge, Windows (XP, at least; probably others) labels the boot filesystem on install, and just probes all disks every boot for a filesystem with the given label. This is why you can move a Windows disk around with relative impunity (as long as the controller drivers are installed); but simply copying all those files to another filesystem (a-la dump/restore on BSD) never results in a bootable OS, even if you put them back in the same place. This is also why booting with two attached clones of the same Windows system disk is so fun. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 12:26:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799C2106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from innervisionnetwork@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4988D8FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwd18 with SMTP id wd18so300090obb.13 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:26:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h42aSt9R/yYUabjxsx1mEW+rBGhGrjti3Fu3LXbKGeo=; b=p3XQrrUQivgPIUynA/DXQCHSTBpKF5vhpE8nUbh1g8VL5GI0ZbBoukZ0jbo44Vei3l Aaeij9eftU8+vcQo8fS8nmab3W9xTHe+QfvgkKIGnmfyiKlCdgTudkyUzJrsnssxJBSF UrdXsqdJFPDFeHjr1bpqSSIIBTBFcVeqC+2FE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.88.99 with SMTP id bf3mr1413515obb.73.1323951969834; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.11.40 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:26:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:26:09 -0600 Message-ID: From: Daniel Lewis To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Enabling FTP and Telnet access for root and users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:26:10 -0000 How do I enable Telnet and ftp access for root and users? I turned on ftp and telnet in inetd but when at telenet or ftp prompt access is denied. Im using free bsd 8.2 Thanks, Daniel lewis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 13:20:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2561065673 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@frank.uvena.de) Received: from uvena.de (unknown [IPv6:2001:4d88:1ffc:463::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CE98FC19 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [141.35.39.175] (c319808.zuv.uni-jena.de [141.35.39.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uvena.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF0BD254017 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EE9F405.6000103@frank.uvena.de> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:20:05 +0100 From: Frank Lanitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: df with ZFS vs. zpool list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:20:06 -0000 Hi folks, I'm a bit confused about a thing. I did create a zpool using zpool create storage ada1 ada2 ada3 Each of SATA-drives is about 80G in size. When using df -h I'm only receiving storage 145G 42k 145G 0% /storage where I expected something like 220GB (due to the ²-issue). However, freebsd-test# zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT storage 222G 9.10M 222G 0% 1.00x ONLINE - is giving the expcted output. Can somebody clear the fog a bit ;) Cheers, Frank P.S. It's a 9.0RC3 P.P.S. freebsd-test# zpool status pool: storage state: ONLINE scan: resilvered 8.50K in 0h0m with 0 errors on Wed Dec 14 17:07:38 2011 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM storage ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada2 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada3 ONLINE 0 0 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:06:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AFC1065670 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D16CD8FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2011 13:40:02 -0000 Received: from port-92-206-81-27.dynamic.qsc.de (EHLO Core2Duo) [92.206.81.27] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 15 Dec 2011 14:40:02 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/9SxhxubX9sycYgpmj8LufjzFbBWUZ2WU6JFwMA5 LQ834gkrV92vv6 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:39:57 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Frank Lanitz Message-Id: <20111215143957.b2f30a13.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4EE9F405.6000103@frank.uvena.de> References: <4EE9F405.6000103@frank.uvena.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.2 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__15_Dec_2011_14_39_57_+0100_M9DcKVVuc1=wFFX+" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df with ZFS vs. zpool list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:06:45 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__15_Dec_2011_14_39_57_+0100_M9DcKVVuc1=wFFX+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:20:05 +0100 Frank Lanitz wrote: > I'm a bit confused about a thing. I did create a zpool using > zpool create storage ada1 ada2 ada3 > storage 145G 42k 145G 0% /storage > freebsd-test# zpool list > NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT > storage 222G 9.10M 222G 0% 1.00x ONLINE - > P.P.S. > freebsd-test# zpool status > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > storage ONLINE 0 0 0 > raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ^^^^^^ > ada1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada2 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada3 ONLINE 0 0 0 Hi, everything look fine. The pool consists of 3 80GB hds, on them you created a RAIDZ1 filesystem. In your case a third of the pool is used for parity information. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Thu__15_Dec_2011_14_39_57_+0100_M9DcKVVuc1=wFFX+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAk7p+K0ACgkQ8P3NNypXNWV6fQCeOpZc41rO819N9zSm2HmX2coR ncYAn2ePYnVFCCa4YdMI8wcvucePnMyH =zypO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__15_Dec_2011_14_39_57_+0100_M9DcKVVuc1=wFFX+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:31:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B6E1065670 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (client-82-26-221-87.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com [82.26.221.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B1A8FC13 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RbC6A-000CeF-F0 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:15:50 +0000 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:15:50 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20111215141550.GA3768@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-PRERELEASE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Cc: Subject: Re: Enabling FTP and Telnet access for root and users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:31:57 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 06:26:09AM -0600, Daniel Lewis wrote: > How do I enable Telnet and ftp access for root and users? > I turned on ftp and telnet in inetd but when at telenet or ftp prompt > access is denied. Can we see the error message? Are you sure inetd is running? Using the right username/password combination? In all honesty, you're better off enabling sshd instead, which encrypts your communication, and offers numerous other security enhancements over plain telnet and ftp. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7qARYACgkQixf5fBYiFmpWtACfarphdqFAwtNjGAV9ozAbyuQc efUAoK3MHttDqI4pR+kxTTTXtBIOGfhW =mIQD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:35:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF37106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linnemannr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4564A8FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dakp5 with SMTP id p5so2137390dak.13 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:35:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xV1HK/nnzsIaOH34qVvbag6kvtJsZaqQpvtDIBUUQFE=; b=kpGWQ8lOL+g0S4k/DF5JrN/9lJqXUAcqNAozLEt6RfHOVUCZCoYABob/vlKRkNpLnE UI+d1CSIWjrcTh9u96HL3nOmdGcwVphR88ehC3Y6q4wM+joNFjpV4guRFuX1nc3kZIxw bwT0xKKYBSdF8fiXRKGjdZ46dGIpEKi7skiaQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.74.4 with SMTP id p4mr10186163pbv.123.1323959722908; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:35:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: linnemannr@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.195.13 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:35:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:35:22 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7PN0u_aGxTLb0tmei4lezF5sCFA Message-ID: From: Reid Linnemann To: Daniel Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enabling FTP and Telnet access for root and users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:35:23 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: > How do I enable Telnet and ftp access for root and users? > =A0I turned on ftp and telnet in inetd but when at telenet or ftp prompt > access is denied. > > Im using free bsd 8.2 > > > > Thanks, > Daniel lewis > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Disclaimer: Why in God's name would you want to enable root access through insecure means such as telnet and ftp? Do you have a specific requirement for these two protocols? For many years now ssh/sftp/scp have been able to securely provide analogous services, and I would recommend you take advantage of them before opening yourself up to the woes of root access on ftp and telnet. That being said, Are you not able to authenticate any users or just root? Are your ftpd and telnetd services being wrapped by inetd? Can you show inetd.conf? /etc/ftpusers contains a list of usernames that will be denied access through ftp, root and its alias toor are both in there by default From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:41:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD18A1065670 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@frank.uvena.de) Received: from uvena.de (unknown [IPv6:2001:4d88:1ffc:463::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9908FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [141.35.39.175] (c319808.zuv.uni-jena.de [141.35.39.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uvena.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 778B8254017 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EEA0733.7060104@frank.uvena.de> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:41:55 +0100 From: Frank Lanitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4EE9F405.6000103@frank.uvena.de> <20111215143957.b2f30a13.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20111215143957.b2f30a13.cyb.@gmx.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: df with ZFS vs. zpool list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:41:56 -0000 Am 15.12.2011 14:39, schrieb Andreas Rudisch: > On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:20:05 +0100 > Frank Lanitz wrote: > >> I'm a bit confused about a thing. I did create a zpool using >> zpool create storage ada1 ada2 ada3 > >> storage 145G 42k 145G 0% /storage > >> freebsd-test# zpool list >> NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT >> storage 222G 9.10M 222G 0% 1.00x ONLINE - > >> P.P.S. >> freebsd-test# zpool status >> NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM >> storage ONLINE 0 0 0 > >> raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ^^^^^^ >> ada1 ONLINE 0 0 0 >> ada2 ONLINE 0 0 0 >> ada3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > > everything look fine. The pool consists of 3 80GB hds, on them you > created a RAIDZ1 filesystem. In your case a third of the pool is used > for parity information. Seems to make sense. Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:49:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C36106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linnemannr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE9A8FC17 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dakp5 with SMTP id p5so2151261dak.13 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:49:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UjuRL+ynr/sXqkA33LiG7gq9u6oNHerST5JjpB8TKgw=; b=l0IehGirN5VEYQ79uJ66xx0/SReXemceembNt09D5uJzhUVNF7nIi6lDjwSNFPAKmM l0VO1DgzesEDrfPmhzhtUx/Sh2IXIn0qrjLSCDUAfkW5BIUGPt+3H+6gpLRjbWbuEdMG oCO6ZQQafy0+mGnd9kM0nnW6YUf4Fp8JhAPF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.190.106 with SMTP id gp10mr10290700pbc.89.1323960576501; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:49:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: linnemannr@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.195.13 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:49:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:49:36 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zhGTSQm3yHFiR05bTTHMHicptAE Message-ID: From: Reid Linnemann To: Daniel Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enabling FTP and Telnet access for root and users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:49:38 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Reid Linnemann wrot= e: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Daniel Lewis > wrote: >> How do I enable Telnet and ftp access for root and users? >> =A0I turned on ftp and telnet in inetd but when at telenet or ftp prompt >> access is denied. >> >> Im using free bsd 8.2 >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Daniel lewis >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > > Disclaimer: > Why in God's name would you want to enable root access through > insecure means such as telnet and ftp? Do you have a specific > requirement for these two protocols? For many years now ssh/sftp/scp > have been able to securely provide analogous services, and I would > recommend you take advantage of them before opening yourself up to the > woes of root access on ftp and telnet. > > That being said, > > Are you not able to authenticate any users or just root? > > Are your ftpd and telnetd services being wrapped by inetd? Can you > show inetd.conf? > > /etc/ftpusers contains a list of usernames that will be denied access > through ftp, root and its alias toor are both in there by default Also, telnetd will never authenticate root unless your ttyp* terminals are set secure in /etc/ttys, which is also not recommended. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:37:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CBC106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B816E8FC17 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (srds2011.vserver.softronics.ch [91.214.169.108]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 785725ADE for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:01:17 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:36:49 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111215153648.GB18909@external.screwed.box> References: <1323040542.64352.YahooMailNeo@web122218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EDCBB72.9070502@onetel.com> <4EDCC89F.9010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4EE8CAAF.3020500@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EE8CAAF.3020500@onetel.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: I am FreeBSD user. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:37:04 -0000 Hello. 2011/12/14 16:11:27 +0000 Chris Whitehouse => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : CW> >> ssuuddoo --VV | --hh | --ll | --LL | --vv | --kk | --KK | --ss | [ --HH CW> > properly as bold. On an ancient teletype that would have been done by CW> > retyping the same character on top of the first one, which is ultimately CW> > where all those doubled characters come from. CW> I know it's trivial but I sent a PR (163149) with a patch (of sorts). I find that kernel log messages about killed processes are doubling the characters just like that (on an SMP machine). Probably thay are getting killed simultaneously and the kernel writes msg about that one-by-one character. Should I file a PR on this? Have no idea how could I reproduce a situation. but it's regularly sent from 'periodic daily' several kernel log messages collected for a day. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:12:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FAE1065670 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8678FC12 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:12:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 22627444 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:12:46 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBFGCjOF072367 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:12:46 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pBFGCjjQ072366 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:12:45 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:12:45 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111215161245.GA72313@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20111215004227.GA9075@thought.org> <201112150111.pBF1BKuB022106@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111215033334.GA10875@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111215033334.GA10875@thought.org> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:12:48 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > > is the a way of starting off vim or gvim and be able to type into > > > the editor _without_ first typing: > > > > > > a,i,o,O,I,A, or any other character? I use all the time: $ echo $SVN_EDITOR vim -c startinsert -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:37:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721B106564A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585648FC14 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBFGbK43065083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:37:22 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pBFGbK43065083 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1323967043; bh=4Lnkrfflr4xnBYqv4ERUG7RZhcHMtlPuKbGL/xvIUwo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=eNnGPhXmxN9WdVkcqGgcMy9dn3+8Wqt1e8d83rY4E/cxoXvzfxgXWrBf1dD632hT7 Dp4Q9pKqv3gBehcxJQVN4FZz8j6aughNJBR3myax0sZ5fNgzYgCdxOmrv1iymch1wQ UjzK1/WE8ea9ADZ26ZOP9rUxNR74aEBHYozjYfXI= Message-ID: <4EEA2238.3010900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:37:12 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1323040542.64352.YahooMailNeo@web122218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EDCBB72.9070502@onetel.com> <4EDCC89F.9010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4EE8CAAF.3020500@onetel.com> <20111215153648.GB18909@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20111215153648.GB18909@external.screwed.box> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5E982C99D28A3D1B6123204D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: I am FreeBSD user. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:37:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5E982C99D28A3D1B6123204D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/12/2011 15:36, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > I find that kernel log messages about killed processes are doubling the= > characters just like that (on an SMP machine). Probably thay are gettin= g killed > simultaneously and the kernel writes msg about that one-by-one characte= r. >=20 > Should I file a PR on this? Have no idea how could I reproduce a situat= ion. but > it's regularly sent from 'periodic daily' several kernel log messages c= ollected > for a day. What OS version? There was a similar problem experienced on multi-core machines where some of the boot messages were getting interleaved like that. It was harmless, other than being aesthetically unpleasing -- I believe it has been fixed in 8.2-RELEASE or later. If you can demonstrate the problem on a recent version of the OS, and it is definitely not the another instance of problem I describe above, then yes, that's certainly worth an e-mail to freebsd-stable@... and possibly a PR as well. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig5E982C99D28A3D1B6123204D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7qIj8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy+iQCdEuOBFLTm/z22sJJKJlBxj306 BmMAnAwF7pcO2LubjWnsL+IQRRvQeEhY =j54z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5E982C99D28A3D1B6123204D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:51:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94C6106566B for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7408FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (bolobolo.torservers.net [173.254.192.35]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 681805AE5 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:15:24 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:50:54 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111215165054.GC18909@external.screwed.box> References: <1323040542.64352.YahooMailNeo@web122218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EDCBB72.9070502@onetel.com> <4EDCC89F.9010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4EE8CAAF.3020500@onetel.com> <20111215153648.GB18909@external.screwed.box> <4EEA2238.3010900@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EEA2238.3010900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: I am FreeBSD user. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:51:10 -0000 Hello. 2011/12/15 16:37:12 +0000 Matthew Seaman => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : MS> On 15/12/2011 15:36, Peter Vereshagin wrote: MS> > I find that kernel log messages about killed processes are doubling the MS> > characters just like that (on an SMP machine). Probably thay are getting killed MS> > simultaneously and the kernel writes msg about that one-by-one character. MS> > MS> > Should I file a PR on this? Have no idea how could I reproduce a situation. but MS> > it's regularly sent from 'periodic daily' several kernel log messages collected MS> > for a day. MS> MS> What OS version? There was a similar problem experienced on multi-core MS> machines where some of the boot messages were getting interleaved like MS> that. It was harmless, other than being aesthetically unpleasing -- I MS> believe it has been fixed in 8.2-RELEASE or later. ~ 7.2-release-p3 It was suspicious to me as it's like a someone is trying to turn logs into a mess therefore hiding an intrusion traces. MS> If you can demonstrate the problem on a recent version of the OS, and it I can't at least because I have no SMP machine accesible for such a trial by hand. ;-) MS> is definitely not the another instance of problem I describe above, then MS> yes, that's certainly worth an e-mail to freebsd-stable@... and possibly MS> a PR as well. ok, I see it's a known issue, just wanted to assure. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:30:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C604106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0323add93e=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1118FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10782 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2011 17:03:32 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 15 Dec 2011 17:03:32 -0000 Date: 15 Dec 2011 17:03:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20111215170309.89270.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4EE9F405.6000103@frank.uvena.de> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: frank@frank.uvena.de Subject: Re: df with ZFS vs. zpool list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:30:16 -0000 >Each of SATA-drives is about 80G in size. When using df -h I'm only >receiving > >storage 145G 42k 145G 0% /storage > >where I expected something like 220GB (due to the ²-issue). However, It's raidz. The third disk is parity for the first two. > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > storage ONLINE 0 0 0 > raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada1 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada2 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada3 ONLINE 0 0 0 R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:39:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7081065675 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458A78FC18 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so1603361lah.13 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Gvq/IsxJvyKtE6yDv+53chYXpkM0RBR+OCgJT8tJ/X8=; b=CmNCex7uefey/v9vn1hOARm0k8vcf1DhEKPHiFnUFvMXFsHrOxvBV5iIglv2oaGKOQ HXLeWp88WOlhR0Amsyj3sM23HiQGTNmFeiMfMql3MkVQ7fwIVvlNyU5ZRD8O3XeJeCbD tokD5IX1e/RBcUK4/hgHuF45uR5U+dejP+tfI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.145.74 with SMTP id c10mr1767490bkv.62.1323970785766; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.36.198 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: APseudoUtopia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: PF/ALTQ - Stable TSC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:39:47 -0000 Hello, I'm setting up pf with altq support in my kernel on freebsd 9.0-Stable (soon to switch to the -RELEASE once it's available). The system is a quad-core Xeon E31220, running amd64. I've done a bit of googling and found various results. I know the freebsd handbook says ALTQ_NOPCC is required on SMP systems. My kern.timecounter.smp_tsc=1, which says the TSC is safe to use in SMP mode. Is it still required to use ALTQ_NOPCC on _ALL_ smp systems? Basically I'm just seeing very different answers with my own research, which is why I'm posting to this list. Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:52:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEF11065701 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7638FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg14 with SMTP id g14so1775570qab.13 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.216.197 with SMTP id hj5mr7239656qab.15.1323971566218; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:52:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.155.198 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111213131547.27bda580@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20111213131547.27bda580@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:52:15 -0500 Message-ID: To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Implementation details of altq hfsc scheduler in pf 4.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:52:47 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:15 AM, RW wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:51:39 -0500 > Maxim Khitrov wrote: > >> I've read everything I could find on the topic of configuring hfsc >> altq in pf (4.5, FreeBSD 9), but I still have no clear idea of how it >> is actually implemented. I even started looking through the source >> code, but that might take a while. My main questions are: >> >> 1. Difference between 'realtime' and 'linkshare'? > > It's about latency, realtime has priority over non-realtime. I sort of understand this, but I can't figure out how that would apply to my example: altq on $wan hfsc bandwidth 25Mb queue {one, two} queue one bandwidth 70% hfsc(default, realtime 20%) queue two bandwidth 30% hfsc(realtime 60%) If realtime and linkshare priorities are reversed, what happens as total bandwidth utilization approaches 100%? >> 2. In service curve configuration (m1, d, m2), what is 'd' relative >> to? > > It looks like it's a leaky-bucket algorithm. It's not really relative > to anything except for special cases like a traffic step-function. Can you please clarify what you mean? I'm familiar with the leaky bucket algorithm, but it still doesn't answer what triggers the switch from m1 to m2 and whether it's a per-queue or per-connection setting. >> 3. Are priorities actually used for anything? > > Priority determines which queue is serviced next when more than one is > under its limit. Understood, thanks. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 19:00:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133E6106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward20.mail.yandex.net (forward20.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633BD8FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward20.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 81C391042BB2 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:00:52 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1323975652; bh=yxqY1leSqHtsduDamtq2FRbbvkoICFG+52q1Uq5ft+Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tlKnLtkyh2LZVCSVo1+elzUq1vi5ADVNLNGkyjlSQ+SvCjAVvzF3LXgZ6ZCdVHG8j mTfG+Q4gE4/EVsBmdjfv3ZV+XzuSN+CPL4dGVg+0qQOMOy7GQ/OCz2Oy1gGboKEWto tVNv99c0WXz2kWRyRJijoNT7a9OOKWNarC0WElkA= Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5F23C19001D2 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:00:52 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1323975652; bh=yxqY1leSqHtsduDamtq2FRbbvkoICFG+52q1Uq5ft+Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tlKnLtkyh2LZVCSVo1+elzUq1vi5ADVNLNGkyjlSQ+SvCjAVvzF3LXgZ6ZCdVHG8j mTfG+Q4gE4/EVsBmdjfv3ZV+XzuSN+CPL4dGVg+0qQOMOy7GQ/OCz2Oy1gGboKEWto tVNv99c0WXz2kWRyRJijoNT7a9OOKWNarC0WElkA= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 0pOOAqHN-0qOCmXAF; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:00:52 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:00:50 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1118838194.20111215210050@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: problem with stoping process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:00:55 -0000 I am trying to stop process /usr/local/etc/rc.d/radiusd top Stopping radiusd. Waiting for PIDS: 27618 top 27618 freeradius 2 20 -20 333M 295M STOP 0 4:42 0.00% radiusd ps aux freeradius 27618 0.0 7.4 341144 302528 ?? T Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68108106566C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234958FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBFLKI5L061423; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@ethic.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id pBFLKI4h061422; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:20:18 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Victor Sudakov Message-ID: <20111215212018.GA61355@thought.org> References: <20111215004227.GA9075@thought.org> <201112150111.pBF1BKuB022106@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111215033334.GA10875@thought.org> <20111215161245.GA72313@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111215161245.GA72313@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:45:15 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:12:45PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:12:45 +0700 > From: Victor Sudakov > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > is the a way of starting off vim or gvim and be able to type into > > > > the editor _without_ first typing: > > > > > > > > a,i,o,O,I,A, or any other character? > > I use all the time: > $ echo $SVN_EDITOR > vim -c startinsert > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru this works for gvim too, although gvim takes awhile to fork. I'll try kate in vi-mode. thanks much. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org server ethic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 22:56:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F51C106564A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B9F8FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pBFMuhOH012609 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:56:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id pBFMuhqH012605 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:56:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:56:43 -0500 (EST) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:56:44 -0500 (EST) Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 8.2 + Ironlake revisted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:56:45 -0000 I have a laptop with Xorg 7.5 and FreeBSD 8.2 both updated as of a few weeks ago. The laptop has an Intel Ironlake card that Xorg 7.5 apparently recognizes as such creating, what I assume is a correct, modline for it. However the default install selects the vesa drive which will only support a screen resolution of 1024x768. My question is: can a higher resolution be suported in 8.2? I assume there is a technical or implementation reason why vesa only does 1024x768 rather than configuring to the highest resolution the card supports. Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 01:03:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97284106564A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6768FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pBG15SkV033045 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:05:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:05:28 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201112160105.pBG15SkV033045@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with stoping process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:03:17 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 15 13:04:04 2011 > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:00:50 +0200 > From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: problem with stoping process > > I am trying to stop process > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/radiusd stop > Stopping radiusd. > Waiting for PIDS: 27618 > > top > 27618 freeradius 2 20 -20 333M 295M STOP 0 4:42 0.00% radiusd > > ps aux > freeradius 27618 0.0 7.4 341144 302528 ?? T > nothing is happen The process is shown as being in the STOPPED state. What did you _expect_ to happen. > > Why process do not stop? It *did* stop. --pBG145MU033027.1323997445/mail.r-bonomi.com-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 02:15:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0762C1065670 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B676D8FC15 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RbNK6-0007tS-Az for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:14:58 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:14:58 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:14:58 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:14:50 -0500 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: PF/ALTQ - Stable TSC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:15:00 -0000 APseudoUtopia wrote: > Hello, > I'm setting up pf with altq support in my kernel on freebsd 9.0-Stable > (soon to switch to the -RELEASE once it's available). > The system is a quad-core Xeon E31220, running amd64. > I've done a bit of googling and found various results. I know the > freebsd handbook says ALTQ_NOPCC is required on SMP systems. My > kern.timecounter.smp_tsc=1, which says the TSC is safe to use in SMP > mode. Is it still required to use ALTQ_NOPCC on _ALL_ smp systems? > Basically I'm just seeing very different answers with my own research, > which is why I'm posting to this list. > In the /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES on an 8.2 box it has this to say: "ALTQ requires a stable TSC so if yours is broken or changes with CPU throttling then you must also have the ALTQ_NOPCC option." I take this to mean that if your TSC is absolutely rock solid and does not vary or adjust when CPU throttling kicks in you may very well get away with not having it. My take on this is it probably doesn't hurt to leave it in, as it would be a safety net in place for a "just in case" scenario in which case it would enhance stability. Cheap insurance. I suspect the Handbook line you were referring to might date back to the 5.x days, with the quote above being recent. A lot of work in the three timecounters available went as water under the bridge some time ago. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 04:44:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55D3106564A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.net) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4EB8FC16 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pBG4iv6B011618 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:44:57 -0500 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id pBG4ivMP011617; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:44:57 -0500 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 23F7FBF66; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:44:15 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20111215033334.GA10875@thought.org> (message from Gary Kline on Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:33:34 -0800) Organization: Array Infotech X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Array Infotech. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: <20111215004227.GA9075@thought.org> <201112150111.pBF1BKuB022106@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111215033334.GA10875@thought.org> Message-Id: <20111216044416.23F7FBF66@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:44:15 -0500 (EST) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:44:58 -0000 >> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:42:31 -0800 >> Gary Kline may have said: G> is the a way of starting off vim or gvim and be able to type into the G> editor _without_ first typing: a,i,o,O,I,A, or any other character? The command vim --cmd start /some/file works for new files, and puts you into insert mode on the first line of an existing file. If you want to have vim start by appending to an existing file, use something like echo >> /some/file vim + --cmd start /some/file to append a line first, or your session will start in "insert" mode with the cursor at the beginning of the last line. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Leighton Meester beats her mom in court --Dec 2011 headline that really could have been phrased better From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 08:09:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2BF106566B for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763E78FC1A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CC8CCE8060F; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 00:09:20 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Karl Vogel Message-ID: <20111216080920.GA22786@thought.org> References: <20111215004227.GA9075@thought.org> <201112150111.pBF1BKuB022106@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111215033334.GA10875@thought.org> <20111216044416.23F7FBF66@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111216044416.23F7FBF66@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:09:22 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:44:15PM -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:44:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Karl Vogel > Subject: Re: opening vim with a flag: ready to write? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:42:31 -0800 > >> Gary Kline may have said: > > G> is the a way of starting off vim or gvim and be able to type into the > G> editor _without_ first typing: a,i,o,O,I,A, or any other character? > > The command > vim --cmd start /some/file > works for new files, and puts you into insert mode on the first line of > an existing file. > > If you want to have vim start by appending to an existing file, use > something like > echo >> /some/file > vim + --cmd start /some/file i was thinking about something your second option; but i've tried victor's suggestion. it works. > > to append a line first, or your session will start in "insert" mode with > the cursor at the beginning of the last line. i am putting my /bin/sh script into gtk a`short program to help the speech impaired or mute. i posted my script last month to show how with espeak -f . i'll use gvim or kate because of the abbrfev feature. my last question is: is there any way of ending textfile1 with one keystroke unstead of the standard "ECS:x[]" --yeah, i've got the src, but i'd rather not. > > -- > Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company > > Leighton Meester beats her mom in court > --Dec 2011 headline that really could have been phrased better > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 10:27:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C411065677 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqbal@aroussi.name) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10028FC17 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwd18 with SMTP id wd18so670189obb.13 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:27:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aroussi.name; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=eSojScvifzqWfC4qb+JP6nO4F+5WBkD2mT+SZH+HAHM=; b=eTXVoOewi2/JxT6fQAma4Ro2J0NtRl4eGw3yE+GkKQjT9d9kdAhP0y13fGlDt7U6zr uZB5Skan4peBXWIF3E9wZCVbi5E60Q6IjsOMrbubEL2EqZd4FyANHuP1BNFUtpEOcK/c RrG1scgrx5mlN6ZTdjCaPX0t8zfe1rU8ZBGhM= Received: by 10.182.75.72 with SMTP id a8mr3606617obw.17.1324029912311; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:05:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.12.69 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:04:51 -0800 (PST) From: Iqbal Aroussi Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:04:51 +0000 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Replacing FreeBSD Base System's BIND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:27:31 -0000 Hi, After installing FreeBSD 8.2, I noticed it's using BIND 9.6 but in ports collection there is newer versions 9.7 and 9.8. I'd like to know if there is any advantages in upgrading BIND to 9.8 instead of using the base install version. I'd really appreciate if you can give me some hints of the best way to do it for future needs while retaining all the advantages of the base install configuration. I found this article on the net " http://static.closedsrc.org/articles/dn-articles/bind9.html" but it's seems to be outdated * PS: I'm new FreeBSD convert user coming from Linux world :) -- * *Iqbal Aroussi* *+212 665 025 032* *iqbal@aroussi.name* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 12:22:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7247E106566C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBB38FC0C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pBGCMDqP085243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:16 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pBGCMDqP085243 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1324038137; bh=hBhRa338TEh/kp11Z2BrqxRDEwrWqzebaIki+8cHAxs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=xw19qvimIJ9e55nj8dcTQCA+dP0nVgoGIjSDSp+ZXZNAmXXjmsnKcF6abCI0iMSIP OB/k0YhDY5mBIF/OtsFrCgCZaq9O/p4GIoFxNOrJsHuNOyaF10s07cPKg8YS3GiJf+ 0laYZ4HaxXkIo7HzTz3o/VimcQpwkPeKD5DpqNaI= Message-ID: <4EEB37EE.6010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:06 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Iqbal Aroussi References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEB14C4E06F2E5F6291267D0D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing FreeBSD Base System's BIND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:22:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEB14C4E06F2E5F6291267D0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16/12/2011 10:04, Iqbal Aroussi wrote: > After installing FreeBSD 8.2, I noticed it's using BIND 9.6 but in port= s > collection there is newer versions 9.7 and 9.8. > I'd like to know if there is any advantages in upgrading BIND to 9.8 > instead of using the base install version. > I'd really appreciate if you can give me some hints of the best way to = do > it for future needs while retaining all the advantages > of the base install configuration. > I found this article on the net " > http://static.closedsrc.org/articles/dn-articles/bind9.html" but it's s= eems > to be outdated > * >=20 > PS: I'm new FreeBSD convert user coming from Linux world :) It depends what you're using bind for. If you are serving domains to the public in something more than a trivial way, then yes, using the latest ports version is recommended. Otherwise, there's little to choose one way versus the other. Using the base system bind is less effort, and you'll get automatic patching of any significant problems assuming you're keeping the system up to date by any of the recognised methods. Also, if you do choose to use the ports version, to keep things simple, I'd recommend not *replacing* the base system bind. This means you'll still be able to use services like freebsd-update(8) without any hassle. Simply install the ports version dns/bind98 under /usr/local, and then something like this in your /etc/rc.conf will switch to using that version. Note -- still uses the standard /etc/rc.d/named startup script.= named_enable=3D"YES" named_program=3D"/usr/local/sbin/named" You'll tend to get the base system version of applications like dig(1) with this unless you tweak $PATH or some such. However, there's very little difference between the client-side apps in recent bind versions, and if you do happen to run into an area where there are significant changes, all you need to do is run /usr/local/bin/dig instead. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigEB14C4E06F2E5F6291267D0D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7rN/QACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwdqgCdGueZnY9eoxXDToXxeWpr2UoE gPEAoITMzhJ8eD1fXgvZz5z3VaD6WOG1 =Wc05 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEB14C4E06F2E5F6291267D0D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:14:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF7C106566C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqbal@aroussi.name) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF6F8FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnp1 with SMTP id p1so4204824ggn.13 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:14:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aroussi.name; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=+pMyCn7XrQnavhO9UQTg/K3IcVtHu/JMs4/YuyWoIWk=; b=jBknbUi9XXQ3Q2ls0MWOyVHqdQB7YmCKos4r89ppN/wKx9SBT4nEJssY5HZAPdWvxS kFenBoj3/H8bPs/darx+XhAS8A7HdphoZkTwFNuRx9BK2aYQtdu2y8Jpt/1GEq3VSdd0 DJPmarEVoDpqnS3mRc6v1eerCq9/63qzNMIdQ= Received: by 10.182.216.105 with SMTP id op9mr3834227obc.57.1324041265338; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:14:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.12.69 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:14:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EEB37EE.6010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4EEB37EE.6010904@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Iqbal Aroussi Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:14:04 +0000 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing FreeBSD Base System's BIND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:14:26 -0000 Hi Matthew, thanks a lot for your detailed reply, as I will be using BIND for standard task. regular SOA for domain names no domain keys or DNSSEC. I think I'll stick with the version that comes pre-installed. Best Regards * -- * *Iqbal Aroussi* *+212 665 025 032* *iqbal@aroussi.name* On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:22, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > On 16/12/2011 10:04, Iqbal Aroussi wrote: > > After installing FreeBSD 8.2, I noticed it's using BIND 9.6 but in ports > > collection there is newer versions 9.7 and 9.8. > > I'd like to know if there is any advantages in upgrading BIND to 9.8 > > instead of using the base install version. > > I'd really appreciate if you can give me some hints of the best way to do > > it for future needs while retaining all the advantages > > of the base install configuration. > > I found this article on the net " > > http://static.closedsrc.org/articles/dn-articles/bind9.html" but it's > seems > > to be outdated > > * > > > > PS: I'm new FreeBSD convert user coming from Linux world :) > > It depends what you're using bind for. > > If you are serving domains to the public in something more than a > trivial way, then yes, using the latest ports version is recommended. > > Otherwise, there's little to choose one way versus the other. Using the > base system bind is less effort, and you'll get automatic patching of > any significant problems assuming you're keeping the system up to date > by any of the recognised methods. > > Also, if you do choose to use the ports version, to keep things simple, > I'd recommend not *replacing* the base system bind. This means you'll > still be able to use services like freebsd-update(8) without any hassle. > Simply install the ports version dns/bind98 under /usr/local, and then > something like this in your /etc/rc.conf will switch to using that > version. Note -- still uses the standard /etc/rc.d/named startup script. > > named_enable="YES" > named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" > > You'll tend to get the base system version of applications like dig(1) > with this unless you tweak $PATH or some such. However, there's very > little difference between the client-side apps in recent bind versions, > and if you do happen to run into an area where there are significant > changes, all you need to do is run /usr/local/bin/dig instead. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 03:12:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA84A106564A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firmdog@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92548FC0A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3so2919291pbc.13 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:12:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9sv490w2h9G/BOFviVx23v588//AXKseEt3q6ybmdHs=; b=jRJJXQW7mv5idzLMdcNvjt/8kANqyuB6URYgHt3hiIECLJwkwHggc8zf/+3zUvv9tG 0ccwtiq1/XzbBMyNg+icaTeKf+ARSLYmkBAlYJQikz7dulmRULG+W29Y+Su9CLi84NAa fe2qcwWnNWRTon5ILgQ4/ULTWzYF/Xb3416hQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.75.165 with SMTP id d5mr20326607pbw.24.1324089721239; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.56.38 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:42:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:42:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "firmdog@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: FreeBSD on Amazon AWS EC2 for production servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:12:23 -0000 Hi, Amazon AWS offers a free tier service for the first year, for one running instance of FreeBSD (and other OS's) It's a great place to experiment for free if you don't have any spare hardware. I have installed a few FreeBSD servers up there and it seems to work fine, and I would like to take some servers up in the AWS system. Here is some information to look at: http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-on-ec2/ I posted the following on the AWS EC2 forum with no response, therefore asking here to see if anyone is using EC2: Is anyone running production servers using the FreeBSD 8.2 AMI on EC2? I want to take my servers up to AWS and run DNS, email, web, mysql, apache, ssl, etc... mainly to have reliable power and I like the versatility at AWS. For those on FreeBSD up here in AWS, how is it working? Stable? Reliable? Any gotchas or knows issues you can share? Any comments or feedback would be awesome to read! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 03:13:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A81106564A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC86B8FC08 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:13:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=jpS86mWZM9MPYU9A8dgwmZOWQS0EjvK/PGzt1ZTjLvg=; b=QHE/nQMTyRF6avwOyiXNLNdgNep4/BbFHoHr7eoMFA0e8QN2uLq13QHE+7gni5OFW1EgGdXRAhdaXyIfcD0x/mH130paUm6btPldxPyKBgbc7gvCTfW/KmQ5oWcCXWMW2W7X+wQJjzoAez04TRMWnzrOwzZqAEHOeT4Dx9r1i38= Received: from [192.168.1.124] ([120.29.67.226]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:13:50 -0800 Message-ID: <4EEC08E8.80501@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:13:44 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2011 03:13:50.0948 (UTC) FILETIME=[E65F1240:01CCBC69] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: Graphic /boot/loader menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:13:51 -0000 What ever happened to the project to add an graphic boot/loader option menu? http://wiki.freebsd.org/OliverFromme/BootLoader From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 08:29:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A14106564A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward2.mail.yandex.net (forward2.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB5F8FC08 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.mail.yandex.net (smtp2.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.102]) by forward2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2948012A269A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:29:45 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1324110585; bh=1GuYxtZ/HZqNRwEkXrKjJ892MBiXFeIZ+uyH1nhf1Hw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C7CsqviPJuuF4FqXzwC3ZSKlR5i8d2AQ+kMPOhFZlDEl2J3REcZmOpK27ROnLqUTY SQMBrgLQSX8d5P1qh7MPVUPCWh6bXHxWSkojRyBpLfqHkrrGqG6CgpXR6IasSe0rc3 bOCDLDJR9ysJgl9bENLAmDoCcSqz2ylEz1pJRYwo= Received: from smtp2.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 10DEDE20341 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:29:45 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1324110585; bh=1GuYxtZ/HZqNRwEkXrKjJ892MBiXFeIZ+uyH1nhf1Hw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C7CsqviPJuuF4FqXzwC3ZSKlR5i8d2AQ+kMPOhFZlDEl2J3REcZmOpK27ROnLqUTY SQMBrgLQSX8d5P1qh7MPVUPCWh6bXHxWSkojRyBpLfqHkrrGqG6CgpXR6IasSe0rc3 bOCDLDJR9ysJgl9bENLAmDoCcSqz2ylEz1pJRYwo= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp2.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id TiG8EuUO-TiGut40d; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:29:44 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:29:42 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1374625746.20111217102942@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: high load system do not take all CPU time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:29:48 -0000 How to debug why system do not use free CPU resouces? On this pictures you can see that CPU can not exceed 400tics http://piccy.info/view3/2368839/c9022754d5fcd64aff04482dd360b5b2/ http://piccy.info/view3/2368837/a12aeed98681ed10f1a22f5b5edc5abc/ http://piccy.info/view3/2368836/da6a67703af80eb0ab8088ab8421385c/ On these pictures you can see that problems begin with trafic on re0 when CPU load rise to "maximum" http://piccy.info/view3/2368834/512139edc56eea736881affcda490eca/ http://piccy.info/view3/2368827/d27aead22eff69fd1ec2b6aa15e2cea3/ But there is 25% CPU idle yet at that moment. # sysctl -a net.isr net.isr.numthreads: 4 net.isr.maxprot: 16 net.isr.defaultqlimit: 256 net.isr.maxqlimit: 10240 net.isr.bindthreads: 0 net.isr.maxthreads: 4 net.isr.direct: 0 net.isr.direct_force: 0 # sysctl -a kern.smp kern.smp.forward_signal_enabled: 1 kern.smp.topology: 0 kern.smp.cpus: 4 kern.smp.disabled: 0 kern.smp.active: 1 kern.smp.maxcpus: 32 kern.smp.maxid: 3 # uname -a FreeBSD flux 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #4: Fri Jun 10 01:30:12 UTC 2011 :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PAE_KES i386 sysctl.conf #ngctl: can't create node: No buffer space available #kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=8388608 #ngctl: send msg: No buffer space available net.graph.recvspace=524288 #Íóæíî ëè òþíèòü? net.graph.maxdgram=524288 #×òîáû ïîñëå ïàéïà ïàêåò øåë äàëüøå ïî ôàéðâîëó net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=0 #Èëè ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü êîìàíäó: ipfw disable one_pass #man ipfw: Fast mode allows certain packets to bypass dummynet scheduler if packet flow does not exceed pipe's bandwidth net.inet.ip.dummynet.io_fast=1 ## ## https://calomel.org/network_performance.html ## kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=16777216 # kernel socket buffer space kern.ipc.nmbclusters=262144 # kernel mbuf space raised 275MB of kernel dedicated ram kern.ipc.somaxconn=32768 # size of the listen queue for accepting new TCP connections kern.ipc.maxsockets=204800 # increase the limit of the open sockets #kern.randompid=348 # randomized processes id's net.inet.icmp.icmplim=50 # reply to no more than 50 ICMP packets per sec net.inet.ip.process_options=0 # do not processes any TCP options in the TCP headers net.inet.ip.redirect=0 # do not allow ip header redirects net.inet.ip.rtexpire=2 # route cache expire in two seconds net.inet.ip.rtminexpire=2 # " net.inet.ip.rtmaxcache=256 # route cache entries increased #net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1 # drop icmp redirects #net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2 # drop any TCP packets to closed ports net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0 # no need to delay ACK's net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin=1 # drop TCP packets which have SYN and FIN set net.inet.tcp.msl=15000 # close lost tcp connections in 7.5 seconds (default 30) net.inet.tcp.nolocaltimewait=1 # do not create TIME_WAIT state for localhost #net.inet.tcp.path_mtu_discovery=0 # disable MTU path discovery net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 # TCP receive buffer space net.inet.tcp.recvspace=8192 # decrease buffers for incoming data net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 # TCP send buffer space net.inet.tcp.sendspace=16384 # decrease buffers for outgoing data #net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 # drop any UDP packets to closed ports security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 # keeps users segregated to their own processes list security.bsd.see_other_gids=0 # " net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=1 #allow packet to leave packet without latency if bandwidth not exceed net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen=1024 #256 #interrupt queue length #FireBird kern.ipc.shmall=32768 kern.ipc.shmmax=134217728 kern.ipc.semmap=256 as you can see net.isr.maxthreads=4 # Max number of threads for NIC IRQ balancing (4 cores in box) and there is really 4 netisr #top -SIHP last pid: 93050; load averages: 1.45, 1.41, 1.29 up 9+16:32:06 10:28:43 237 processes: 5 running, 210 sleeping, 2 stopped, 20 waiting CPU 0: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 8.7% system, 17.7% interrupt, 72.8% idle CPU 1: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 9.1% system, 20.1% interrupt, 70.9% idle CPU 2: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 9.4% system, 19.7% interrupt, 70.5% idle CPU 3: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 6.3% system, 22.4% interrupt, 70.1% idle Mem: 843M Active, 2476M Inact, 347M Wired, 150M Cache, 112M Buf, 80M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 15M Used, 4080M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 2 155.8H 77.59% {idle: cpu2} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU3 3 158.1H 75.98% {idle: cpu3} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU0 0 150.5H 71.14% {idle: cpu0} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU1 1 157.2H 63.87% {idle: cpu1} 12 root -72 - 0K 160K WAIT 1 65.0H 28.56% {swi1: netisr 3} 12 root -92 - 0K 160K WAIT 0 26.2H 16.41% {irq256: re0} 12 root -72 - 0K 160K WAIT 2 42.5H 13.67% {swi1: netisr 1} 12 root -72 - 0K 160K WAIT 3 22.2H 12.06% {swi1: netisr 2} 12 root -72 - 0K 160K WAIT 3 18.0H 11.62% {swi1: netisr 0} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 3 535:58 3.81% {ng_queue2} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 0 535:52 3.71% {ng_queue1} 13474 root 22 0 15392K 5932K select 0 12:36 3.66% snmpd 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 0 536:48 3.12% {ng_queue3} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 1 536:19 2.98% {ng_queue0} 5587 root 20 -20 276M 200M select 2 171:55 0.10% {mpd5} 12637 freeradius 23 0 31844K 23436K select 2 15:29 0.05% {initial thread} but why in time of load it do not exceed 400tics? (75%) loader.conf ## ## https://calomel.org/network_performance.html ## autoboot_delay="3" # reduce boot menu delay from 10 to 3 seconds loader_logo="beastie" # old FreeBSD logo menu net.inet.tcp.tcbhashsize=4096 # tcb hash size net.inet.tcp.syncache.hashsize=1024 # syncache hash size net.inet.tcp.syncache.bucketlimit=100 # syncache bucket limit net.isr.bindthreads=0 # do not bind threads to CPUs net.isr.direct=0 # interrupt handling via multiple CPU net.isr.direct_force=0 # " net.isr.maxthreads=4 # Max number of threads for NIC IRQ balancing (4 cores in box) #vm.kmem_size=512M #1G # physical memory available for kernel (320Mb by default) #FireBird kern.ipc.semmni=256 kern.ipc.semmns=512 kern.ipc.semmnu=256 # sysctl -a | grep cpu cpu I686_CPU device cpufreq kern.ccpu: 0 kern.sched.cpusetsize: 4 0, 1, 2, 3 0, 1, 2, 3 0, 1 2, 3 kern.smp.cpus: 4 kern.smp.maxcpus: 32 net.inet.tcp.per_cpu_timers: 0 debug.cpufreq.verbose: 0 debug.cpufreq.lowest: 0 debug.kdb.stop_cpus: 1 debug.PMAP1changedcpu: 2785232 hw.ncpu: 4 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 machdep.hlt_cpus: 0 machdep.hlt_logical_cpus: 0 machdep.logical_cpus_mask: 10 security.jail.param.cpuset.id: 0 dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P000 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.freq: 3100 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 3100/65000 3000/62000 2900/59000 2800/56000 2700/54000 2600/51000 2500/49000 2400/46000 2300/44000 2200/41000 2100/39000 2000/37000 1900/35000 1800/32000 1700/30000 1600/28000 1400/24500 1200/21000 1000/17500 800/14000 600/10500 400/7000 200/3500 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/104 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 28us dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/104 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 44us dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002 dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/104 dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 79us dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003 dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/104 dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% 0.00% last 68us dev.acpi_perf.0.%parent: cpu0 dev.acpi_perf.1.%parent: cpu1 dev.acpi_perf.2.%parent: cpu2 dev.acpi_perf.3.%parent: cpu3 dev.est.0.%parent: cpu0 dev.est.1.%parent: cpu1 dev.est.2.%parent: cpu2 dev.est.3.%parent: cpu3 dev.cpufreq.0.%driver: cpufreq dev.cpufreq.0.%parent: cpu0 dev.cpufreq.1.%driver: cpufreq dev.cpufreq.1.%parent: cpu1 dev.cpufreq.2.%driver: cpufreq dev.cpufreq.2.%parent: cpu2 dev.cpufreq.3.%driver: cpufreq dev.cpufreq.3.%parent: cpu3 dev.p4tcc.0.%parent: cpu0 dev.p4tcc.1.%parent: cpu1 dev.p4tcc.2.%parent: cpu2 dev.p4tcc.3.%parent: cpu3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 10:41:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1C7106564A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EA38FC0A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8077728405; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:41:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EEC71C5.7090701@cyberleo.net> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 04:41:09 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111204 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4EE38454.3020307@otenet.gr> <4EE3D1F0.60500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4989a3ebb7810ed26951cbbd23b7645c.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> <4EE6943E.40400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <006a01ccb9b7$df4f1f40$9ded5dc0$@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <006a01ccb9b7$df4f1f40$9ded5dc0$@fisglobal.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Da Rock' Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:41:11 -0000 On 12/13/2011 10:54 AM, Devin Teske wrote: > We're seeing in 8.1-RELEASE that "nodev" is an invalid option for NFS mounts > that causes your system to boot into single-user mode. Is this still the case in > 9.0-RC2/3 or has the option been re-added? "nodev" was a valid option in > 4.11-RELEASE, not sure why it was removed (and/or made invalid). Since the advent of devfs, device nodes no longer function anywhere other than a devfs-backed filesystem; so 'nodev' is, in a sense, the default. Try it yourself: ----8<---- amani# dd if=/dev/zero count=1 | hd 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes transferred in 0.000046 secs (11126858 bytes/sec) 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| * 00000200 amani# mknod zero c 0 26 amani# dd if=./zero count=1 | hd dd: ./zero: Inappropriate ioctl for device amani# ----8<---- -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 13:49:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41975106566C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D188FC15 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fruiteater.riseup.net (fruiteater-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A268059DEE; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@fruiteater.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id 8D3DD6DD Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:31:06 +0100 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: "firmdog@gmail.com" Message-ID: <20111217133106.GA41356@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: "firmdog@gmail.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Amazon AWS EC2 for production servers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:49:43 -0000 On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 09:42:01PM -0500, firmdog@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Amazon AWS offers a free tier service for the first year, for one > running instance of FreeBSD (and other OS's) It's a great place to > experiment for free if you don't have any spare hardware. I have > installed a few FreeBSD servers up there and it seems to work fine, > and I would like to take some servers up in the AWS system. Here is > some information to look at: > > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-on-ec2/ > > I posted the following on the AWS EC2 forum with no response, > therefore asking here to see if anyone is using EC2: > > Is anyone running production servers using the FreeBSD 8.2 AMI on EC2? > I want to take my servers up to AWS and run DNS, email, web, mysql, > apache, ssl, etc... mainly to have reliable power and I like the > versatility at AWS. For those on FreeBSD up here in AWS, how is it > working? Stable? Reliable? Any gotchas or knows issues you can share? > Any comments or feedback would be awesome to read! >From how I understood a Twit podcast on the subject featuring cperciva@ who did the porting, http://tarsnap.com runs on FreeBSD. Since it's a commercial service I can only assume it works good enough(tm), but I really have no first hand experience so consider this post wrapped in disclaimers :). -- If the meanings of "true" and "false" were switched, then this sentence would not be false. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 14:04:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B0B1065670 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxime.etienne@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9902B8FC17 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Dec 2011 14:04:01 -0000 Received: from host154-73-static.25-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it (EHLO [192.168.1.85]) [87.25.73.154] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu006) with SMTP; 17 Dec 2011 15:04:01 +0100 X-Authenticated: #50204219 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19W29wYJLJWfzt+yR8ROk4SffaeHTi6qDojSvpWny vsKWKWFJuSZiia From: Maxime-Etienne de Gier To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:04:00 +0100 Message-ID: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:04:04 -0000 I am really interested in Freebsd or PC-BSD but unfortunately every time when I download an ISO of either of them and try to boot up (from the DVD-ROM) my machine will not boot up (Laptop PackardBell). Any insight? Thanks and much regard. Maxime. -- Maxime-Etienne de Gier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 14:10:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1803106564A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlisten@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AAF8FC13 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekc50 with SMTP id c50so4721322eek.13 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:10:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DRL00nY4ny2h2XTP78juGcuURnqO8kVoRMfWnOX71VM=; b=DZEzM7yempUDrUt/BsINRbSxKfq1WTvnYAZECwGbJdXPnr6E+R+eyT/7pFTdhKYvuD FA99hdpCQjKcoTPrb+3IctcnN6hkyzPkeLrjX1yNAtwAezjz8ZE1QwimhIxPok0pIlJD 4zggqexNP6EE14c3oRlE5U1vftXMe0CbP+PTs= Received: by 10.213.28.140 with SMTP id m12mr3539142ebc.139.1324131045156; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.105] ([89.47.83.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q28sm15677971eea.6.2011.12.17.06.10.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:10:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EECA2DD.2000501@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:10:37 +0200 From: Rares Aioanei User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111114 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxime-Etienne de Gier References: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> In-Reply-To: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:10:46 -0000 On 12/17/2011 04:04 PM, Maxime-Etienne de Gier wrote: > I am really interested in Freebsd or PC-BSD but unfortunately every time > when I download an ISO of either of them and try to boot up (from the > DVD-ROM) my machine will not boot up (Laptop PackardBell). > Any insight? Thanks and much regard. > > > Maxime. > > What errors do you get, if any? Is the BIOS set accordingly? -- Rares Aioanei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 15:13:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7707106566B for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm32-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EEBD8FC13 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2011 14:59:47 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.166] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2011 14:59:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2011 14:59:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 271614.22633.bm@omp1022.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 53705 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 2011 14:59:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1324133986; bh=L+LJyKT+ZAzPObp/RkENlR2FaBz6cp3Me2Z42fcOSn0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2gk9zNhclV0i21CAUANZsVeLHYVw8u+/dx4fshfutpHG1hmAQOH7h6T0HXs+vOdriRAvw44Vp2ROmDhmzkORNAOnxlyMBENcbnHfaQ93IUMGY4e94aSWCAThgqxlPSSFQpyd/wT5aRM6quGueJkNqV+Ww2t9bVgGxlVwOtkbel4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SyXYQcFlDZ+lTMsJxp7tUSXFh4olRlgErWoN1Aj82Wn4M+77Dd0ABbIXxelRUyoTHTQWntFM9hoDIr0/bJ0aXDufW84p6z6gWpGMG4+tgtAkmd2qT0OszbfnDrvz+VlmEe7I8VeGmsTqyCNapQM7D7oAlaC8lHYE+Gd35pPmy3o=; X-YMail-OSG: HUnDbOIVM1kst.450N00iG07wzmGRVt53EoGsr9dySmY01E lBpqbtpLEBm6d4yYi042AlSNtf01XT0TEWOGAXqcx7a8TkggWyGN4TMcPoDp rx7ytwRGmLFmcLiRJw9oXzDa93Jdo4CF7_5QyG6jlDKuZMVPKnrUo7fqzaNo Bd.FxMUfIzm4MY3B8hA0WIBagIjxWw8ZJFH0onbHPK_oXBS14skwrdlr2dRw OpurVLTG_syec6qgBEhXRbMLsRstQ3kO8ZlTPIC.thl_yb.NQU3o5TI1PGMf S6qDVoVa2nQ8HZ.7C_pMeNx074l0iYj2by1.8fOYR7tVNFoId20djG2CbTLk hWKj8Zc4DKjI4Jt78OUF8jEtF7rZfqa..PfQ.66C46aqfwi5IhZm_KQvwPPG fCmw0uiyz9KdJuvSF9SfnNatdfargi8BCDp7gtIWOUyAD_lHfd50twWbdgly uJFr2 Received: from [98.203.44.66] by web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:59:46 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> Message-ID: <1324133986.49548.YahooMailNeo@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:59:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Tillman To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" In-Reply-To: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bill Tillman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:13:09 -0000 =A0=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: Maxime-Etienne de Gier= =0ATo: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org =0ASent: Satu= rday, December 17, 2011 9:04 AM=0ASubject: booting=0A=0A=0AI am really inte= rested in Freebsd or PC-BSD but unfortunately every time=0Awhen I download = an ISO of either of them and try to boot up (from the=0ADVD-ROM) my machine= will not boot up (Laptop PackardBell).=0AAny insight?=A0 Thanks and much r= egard.=0A=0A=0AMaxime.=0A=0A=0A-- =0AMaxime-Etienne de Gier =0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-qu= estions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinf= o/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-u= nsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0AWe have to start with the basics here:=0A=0A1.= You say you download the iso but you don't indicate that your burn the iso= to DVD. Sorry, don't mean to cast any doubts on your ability but we get lo= ts of posts from new users who simply copy the iso file to a DVD and then e= xpect it to boot. The iso file must be translated by a program like Nero, o= r burncd in order to make it bootable.=0A=0A2. What exactly are the error m= essages you are seeing on the screen at the time it attempts to boot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 16:23:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D9B1065670 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from constellation.thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68AC8FC0A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=thenetnow.com) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RbwpG-000NF1-80; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:09:30 -0500 From: "gpeel" To: Rares Aioanei , Maxime-Etienne de Gier Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:09:30 -0500 Message-Id: <20111217160814.M86052@thenetnow.com> In-Reply-To: <4EECA2DD.2000501@gmail.com> References: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> <4EECA2DD.2000501@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 198.208.159.20 (gpeel@thenetnow.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:23:14 -0000 On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:10:37 +0200, Rares Aioanei wrote > On 12/17/2011 04:04 PM, Maxime-Etienne de Gier wrote: > > I am really interested in Freebsd or PC-BSD but unfortunately every time > > when I download an ISO of either of them and try to boot up (from the > > DVD-ROM) my machine will not boot up (Laptop PackardBell). > > Any insight? Thanks and much regard. > > > > > > Maxime. > > > > > What errors do you get, if any? Is the BIOS set accordingly? > > -- > Rares Aioanei > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Are you burning the ISO image corectly i.e. making a bootable CD/DVD or are you just copying the ISO file to the DVD? If the latter, you need to get a ISO image burner (software) and burn it properly. -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 16:34:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AA5106566B for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juvix88@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8088FC15 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so8026963wgb.31 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:34:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IHpFWQWWqM3pzn970280c+7JOQH86SANj/jOSg3XTXU=; b=BMkNloQwQgglCaqhY7vgn+CIp8ggg82D93oYtfL5xPfzv8R+M1G/sRq2TYFfyCJhjn oKDDiU66EXLdzJk5mzqmTEgY33a2baqx0et2qAf44V67I6B2dIUHFSZQivsUzG/h5KF7 kAOl6u6/yL2iyJ30Fdx121vb1Y7e0xax53Ohw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.74.211 with SMTP id w19mr18798537wiv.7.1324139690746; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.92.231 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.92.231 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:34:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> References: <1324130640.3098.3.camel@maxime-laptop> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:34:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Vomacka To: Maxime-Etienne de Gier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:34:52 -0000 On Dec 17, 2011 9:04 AM, "Maxime-Etienne de Gier" wrote: > > I am really interested in Freebsd or PC-BSD but unfortunately every time > when I download an ISO of either of them and try to boot up (from the > DVD-ROM) my machine will not boot up (Laptop PackardBell). > Any insight? Thanks and much regard. > > > Maxime. > > > -- > Maxime-Etienne de Gier > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Any errors? What is the experience when you try to boot? We can not map a problem to an entire manufacturer since the only mentioned was that it was a Packard bell. I know this might sound like a stupid question, but did you verify the md5sum of the download before you burned the iso?. please give us detailed information so we can help you out. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 16:35:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33AA1065679 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skat@aport.ru) Received: from sovam.com (mail.email.ru [194.67.1.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9468FC0A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:35:27 +0000 (UTC) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Dec 17 20:35:25 2011 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.8507 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-AttachExt: boot X-AttachExt: octet-stream Received: from [188.232.117.252] (account skat@aport.ru) by mail-be04.sovam.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.20) with HTTP id 11325667 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:35:24 +0400 From: "Oleg simonoff" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.20 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:35:24 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_===11325667====mail-be04.sovam.com===_" Cc: Subject: some troble with compilation of newkernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:35:30 -0000 This is a multi-part MIME message --_===11325667====mail-be04.sovam.com===_ Content-Type: text/plain;charset=koi8-r;format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi users! I`ve got freeBSD8.2 system. Before the assemblage of a kernel the file has been checked up by config. The syntax of a file was correct. But the compilation was not completed About the error see the log lile, and the remaining information about the hardware and the kernel file see the attached files. 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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D562106566C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4398C8FC13 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pBHIXjpr048816; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:33:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:33:45 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201112171833.pBHIXjpr048816@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, skat@aport.ru In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: some troble with compilation of newkernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:31:45 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 17 10:38:44 2011 > From: "Oleg simonoff" > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:35:24 +0300 > Cc: > Subject: some troble with compilation of newkernel > > Hi users! > > I`ve got freeBSD8.2 system. Before the assemblage of a kernel the file > has been checked up by config. The syntax of a file was correct. > But the compilation was not completed > About the error see the log lile, and the remaining information about > the hardware and the kernel file You are missing one or more 'options' or 'device' specifications from the configuration file. The "dependencies" involving configuration options are not well documented, And there are a few options that are -not- really 'optional', despite their name. You should start with the 'GENERIC' kernel config, and make 'small' changes, *testing* with a compile attempt after each such change, until you get to the kernel configuration you need. >From the error messages, it appears you are missing 'options LIBALIAS', a keyboard-related device, and something to do with the clock.