From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 02:00:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544C7106564A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65FB8FC0A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so18565897iwn.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yO+TOJx3oSxHDXq9STUcJKJKVcPiPDb+eHr61Xc56SQ=; b=OFw9XhO/FCbAeoebONoCH33Y3YEs1Gpcfk6Ww0Mr+SwuBydW7BTJ8Ctucpe2M4k626 i2xqV8FG+2TgyrpffeRCh3ga6KAfausfjKymNSGQu1JoKarFLQFynFoFoRDy6TClt/sL S7AQDpIqE0pIEGkhfmAtHXuUWAdaqJWNXtQZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VTbyUmdcxxkbQuiHe/wTLrtQ22O80VSZonCKjb0c5Id+L1VxTU60a7uGw86+Lx9kiY 2IX1BYWvWYCHKd3VmBmorrSv4oH4It3bLPoLk56zGtcXQkcqIOkjot1dnP7k0a5bnvag fBqZ5CYB0CqQlEKQyvQkK2tV37fS37b7juiOw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.35.1 with SMTP id n1mr11125780ibd.0.1294538405134; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.79.197 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:00:06 -0000 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wr= ote: > I've spent some time integrating bsdinstall into startup of install CDs, > mostly related to building useful live-CD-based installers. An i386 image > can be found here (other architectures may follow, as my very slow DSL li= ne > permits): > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110108.iso.bz2 > > The source for this can be found at: > > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/user/nwhitehorn/bsdinstall > > The bits related to live CD usage are the testsystem.sh and rc.local file= s. > Instead of running sysinstall as an init replacement, I have written a sm= all > rc.local script that gives the user the option to either start the > installer, open a single-user-mode style shell, or to continue to boot to= a > multi-user live CD. Also, instead of the md root used by sysinstall, this > just boots from the CD directly. This prevents the need for sysinstall's > media selection, since the distribution files are in the mounted root fil= e > system. > > I would appreciate any comments or test results. > -Nathan > I tried to install the .iso . Here is my steps . The main board : Intel DG 945 WHMKR PS/2 mouse PS/2 keyboard Samsung Syncmaster 2233SN 1920 x 1080 LCD ( VGA port ) monitor . No hard disk attached ( Power disconnected ) Installer started . After displaying Welcome ... Installer , Shell , Live C= D , keyboard and mouse are frozen . The computer started with Reset button . Mouse cursor disappeared , but keyboard worked on install Welcome dialog . Before starting installation , Seagate Desktop Expansion Hard Disk has been attached to a USB port . ugen2.2 ... umass0 ... da0 ... messages have overwrite =C2=B4Installer , Shell , Live CD=C2=B4 line of dia= log . By pressing Left Arrow and Right Arrow , recovered the dialog selection lin= e . Installer has been selected . Host name has been asked , but any name structure is not explained , such a= s a single name or with another name . ( For personal installs , there is no administrator other than installer , there is no other person to ask anything . ) A single word is given and reached to the Partition Editor . In the Seagate Expansion drive , there was Mandriva Linux as installed . ( Pressing red letters in the Partition Editor is not working . It is necessary to come over the item to be selected and press Enter . ) When Create is selected Add Partition dialog displayed . Label : This is a known concept . A more descriptive sentence may be used = . Mount Point : What is =C2=A8Mount Point" ? I assumed / would be correct . Pressing Ok displayed Error : Invalid argument . Size =C2=B4195454664=C2=B4 Ok I have deleted / symbol from =C2=A8Mount point=C2=A8 and pressed Enter . The above error displayed . I have selected Edit . Warning displayed . I have selected Yes . Partition Scheme menu displayed . I thought =C2=B4BSD labels=C2=B4 would be good . I have selected it . Returned to Partition Editor . I have pressed Create . Displayed Add Partition dialog . Pressing Ok , displayed the above error message . By entering =C2=B4Edit=C2=B4 , I have deleted existing partitions . I have pressed Finished . Dialog =C2=B4Confirmation=C2=B4 displayed . Yes entered . Initialize dialog displayed . After that =C2=B4Abort=C2=B4 dialog displayed : You canceled ... Restart entered . After repeating the above steps , Exit selected because =C2=B4Abort=C2=B4 d= ialog . Result : Failure . My suggestions : 1. Please select an audience of installer : Elementary school students . High school school students . University students . University graduates Computer engineers . FreeBSD experts , or others . Use a language and steps that these may be easily followed by the installer= s 2. Before displaying a menu for selection , please check the validity of items to be selected , and display only VALID items . Doing display first , and making checks after selection is causing complete failures sometimes . 3. Please use explanatory sentences as sufficiently long . On the screen , there are at least 80 x 25 =3D 2000 characters available . 4. Lowering the level of prior knowledge about FreeBSD will increase adoption of it by more inexperienced users . 5. Studying installation of other operating systems may be helpful . It is not necessary to copy their copy-righted material , but ideas may utilized = . In that respect , my first suggestions , in order of easiness would be Mandriva , Fedora , Debian Linux , PC-BSD . Thank you very much for your efforts and contributions . Please accept my ideas only for toward contribution to remedy difficulties and to make a mor= e easily usable installer . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk