From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 08:18:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AFF1065672; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5308FC08; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1S8IkmV024918; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:18:46 GMT (envelope-from brucec@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brucec@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1S8Ik9N024914; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:18:46 GMT (envelope-from brucec) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:18:46 GMT Message-Id: <201102280818.p1S8Ik9N024914@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brucec@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org From: brucec@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/152892: sysinstall(8): Not updating /etc files in installer FreeBSD-8.2-BETA1-i386-memstick.img X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:18:47 -0000 Synopsis: sysinstall(8): Not updating /etc files in installer FreeBSD-8.2-BETA1-i386-memstick.img Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-sysinstall Responsible-Changed-By: brucec Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Feb 28 08:18:26 UTC 2011 Responsible-Changed-Why: sysinstall PR. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=152892 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 11:07:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3F2106567F for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78B98FC2A for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1SB78ka012105 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:07:08 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1SB78sc012103 for freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:07:08 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:07:08 GMT Message-Id: <201102281107.p1SB78sc012103@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:07:08 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o bin/154788 sysinstall sysinstall(8) crashes if no network interface found o bin/154613 sysinstall sysinstall(8) does not rescan USB automatically o bin/151229 sysinstall sysinstall(8) - shift-tab doesn't work as expected o bin/150995 sysinstall sysinstall(8): corruption of partition table s bin/150237 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Suggestion: installer should suggest th o bin/148805 sysinstall [hang] FreeBSD 7.2, 8.0, and 9.0 hang during install a f bin/148220 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 9.0-current gets "Cannot resolv hostnam o bin/148201 sysinstall sysinstall(8): core dump (Error 10) while trying to in o bin/148053 sysinstall sysinstall(8) labeling o bin/146299 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot create slice o bin/145735 sysinstall sysinstall(8) trashes Vista-created partition tables o bin/145027 sysinstall Remove all sysinstall(8) references to floppy and slip o bin/144278 sysinstall [install] Fixit from USB dont work o bin/142867 sysinstall sysinstall(8): in a custom installation re-entering th o misc/142335 sysinstall Download of Release 8.0 LIVE is NOT a "live" from CD p o bin/140843 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot software install from usb o bin/140842 sysinstall sysinstall(8): destroyed ncurses interface with FBSD8. o bin/140595 sysinstall [request] sysinstall(8): Replace "Country Selection" w o bin/138423 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Installer (and sade) get wrong number o o bin/138025 sysinstall sysinstall(8) fails to create big partition o bin/137864 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): add possibility to shutdown/pow o bin/137713 sysinstall sysinstall(8): installer partition editor generates in f bin/136161 sysinstall sysinstall(8) installs wrong architecture on amd64 o bin/134425 sysinstall sysinstall(8) custom distributions select all and dese o bin/129762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) doesn't seem to support GPT for EFI boar s bin/123304 sysinstall sysinstall(8): missing sensible and user friendly prog o bin/121503 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 7.0 upgrade doesn't let me mount all of a bin/121124 sysinstall sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR pa o bin/119077 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) - reading packages from index is o bin/113682 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) warns for invalid geometry which o bin/112757 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8): in the FDISK tool we can o bin/110151 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8) don't respects install ro o bin/108191 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Disklabel editor help text (by F1 key) o bin/107830 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Change Units (Z) in fdisk doesn't work p bin/102638 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): custom dist set always install o bin/102498 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Cursor doesn't track sysinstall hilight a bin/101762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) does not obey /usr/ports symlink while i o bin/97108 sysinstall sysinstall(8): write failure on transfer (wrote -1 byt o bin/93275 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Failure to install after restarting ins o bin/90656 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 6.0-RELEASE (i386) cannot be installed s bin/86859 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Installer should ask about Linux earlie o bin/86454 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall terminates with signal 10 if o bin/80371 sysinstall cannot install 5.4-RC3 from DOS partition o bin/79910 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Cannot escape from failed port/package o bin/79840 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Partitioning and formating a new disk f o bin/79621 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8) does not create a device o bin/78964 sysinstall sysinstall(8): can not write labels to hdd on installa s bin/73617 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fdisk editor unmarks active partition f bin/73511 sysinstall sysinstall(8): SCSI drive install failure - RC2 o bin/73410 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall could not allocate disklabel o bin/72895 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall generates invalid partition o bin/70002 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fails to locate FTP dirs if the OS has o bin/69986 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] no job control in fixit shell o o bin/69942 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall changes /etc/rc.conf after i o bin/69723 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] allow to continue from packag o bin/62702 sysinstall sysinstall(8): backup of /etc and /root during sysinst o bin/62367 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 5.2.1-RC installation problems o bin/61890 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fdisk(8) uses incorrect calculations fo o bin/61603 sysinstall sysinstall(8): wrong geometry guessed o bin/60632 sysinstall sysinstall(8): UI bug in partition label screen in sys o bin/53341 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] dump frequency in sysinstall is o bin/48989 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall's partition editor gets con s bin/48341 sysinstall sysinstall(8): changes the active slice flag when it p o bin/46905 sysinstall sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 5.x cannot be installed from mu f bin/46235 sysinstall sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updatin o bin/42162 sysinstall sysinstall(8): after restart, installation crashes, md o bin/41949 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall sorts /etc/rc.conf during ne o bin/41850 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall fails to create root filesys f bin/40260 sysinstall sysinstall(8): hang when detecting devices (No CD/DVD s conf/39580 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] more secure mount options o bin/38854 sysinstall sysinstall(8): resetting during setup causes the targe s bin/38609 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] sysinstall should know the si o bin/38478 sysinstall sysinstall(8): In Choose Distributions screen, it's di o bin/38057 sysinstall sysinstall(8): "install" document doesn't display corr o bin/38056 sysinstall sysinstall(8): User (creation)'s "Member groups" item o bin/38055 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Groups (creation) item should be before o bin/37710 sysinstall sysinstall(8): LAN interface in wrong state after atte a bin/32375 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall doesn't respect User generat o bin/31363 sysinstall sysinstall(8): "partition editor" silently corrects pa a bin/30737 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall leaks file descriptors on re o bin/29375 sysinstall sysinstall(8): disk editor gets confused by slices tha a bin/23402 sysinstall sysinstall(8): upgrade ought to check partition sizes o bin/16948 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall/disklabel: bad partition tab o bin/15038 sysinstall sysinstall(8): easy to not notice that selection lists s bin/7232 sysinstall sysinstall(8): suggestion for FreeBSD installation dia 85 problems total. From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 14:49:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E99C106564A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CE58FC13; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:49:11 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LHC0070415Y9K00@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:49:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-75-50-89-165.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [75.50.89.165]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHC0045K15VVV10@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:49:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:49:07 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current , FreeBSD Arch Message-id: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-13, Version=5.6.0.2009776, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.2.28.143914, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101214 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Cc: Subject: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:49:11 -0000 BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a future merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace sysinstall on the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would like to pull this switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make release must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get non-sysinstall media): http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff Test ISOs for amd64 and i386 can be found here: http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110222.iso.bz2 http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110224.iso.bz2 More recent test ISOs, as well as ones for other architectures, may be available at: http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall Bug reports would be very appreciated at this time. There are three known bugs currently, which will be fixed soon, so please don't report these: error reporting is not graceful if there are no writable disks in the system, you must select at least one optional component, and the doc build is not currently connected to the releases. There are some changes to the distribution format involved in this patch, which are outlined below, and about which I would also appreciate feedback: - The src tree is not split up into pieces (e.g. ssbin) as with sysinstall - Distfiles are not chunked, but are single xz-compressed archives - There is only one CD image produced, which is always also a live CD - There are no packages on this CD. There is about 100 MB of free space on it right now, so it might make sense to keep it this way and to make a separate packages CD/DVD. Removing packages from disc1 also makes cross-building release ISOs possible. Thanks to everyone who has provided testing and feedback over the last two months! -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 14:57:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFA2106564A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C656B8FC08; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF226E8C98; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:56:58 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=ko5NawVPNZTq xLxKJkSTPyXgQv8=; b=XD4UZR7r2GnnTfgXoPHUGFyvor7kOmsEDeu9OYz945nn LQZibmAxC1JWZiOum167v59a41RJQyd+/H41XXZtPnvbh4cHznwkjdtODGim4umf Zl0xGVdC374G0iAq4Jl2OF3MWkQy3H4E5p30nnRNTDRet5GqWBx0/LBfqJrIMvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=l+vjhY m9/45Rq4S9QHOAVK+TktPhW3zcJb142Iap+vFp2GqsE85Uzt8oJ22w7tUKPd6Mlt jEM6e+9oUpE1+KE4L1ZYqxqO87f9+1tVEpA8G5B4HhdVVUFbt7FSEwteanArBg+g kLvkXWGtbyHPKvJ9d5qIgpy+kmxsA3oRuVg6c= Received: from unknown (client-86-31-236-253.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.236.253]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83C9DE8C7C; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:56:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:56:33 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <20110228145633.00005f7d@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8cvs9 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current Current , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Arch Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:57:02 -0000 On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:49:07 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > - There is only one CD image produced, which is always also a live CD It would be really useful if a netinstall ISO could be made too - people still have slow Internet connections where having a bootonly disc is nice. For example Debian's 35 MB business-card CD is great when you can only download at 50 kB/s. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 15:21:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464F51065672; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160498FC0A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:21:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LHC00A082O42R00@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:21:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-75-50-89-165.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [75.50.89.165]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHC004W52O2VV20@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:21:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:21:38 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <20110228145633.00005f7d@unknown> To: Bruce Cran Message-id: <4D6BBD82.2080800@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-14, Version=5.6.0.2009776, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.2.28.151514, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> <20110228145633.00005f7d@unknown> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101214 Thunderbird/3.1.7 Cc: freebsd-current Current , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Arch Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:21:41 -0000 On 02/28/11 08:56, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:49:07 -0600 > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> - There is only one CD image produced, which is always also a live CD > It would be really useful if a netinstall ISO could be made too - > people still have slow Internet connections where having a bootonly > disc is nice. For example Debian's 35 MB business-card CD is great when > you can only download at 50 kB/s. Yes, I agree. The netinstall stuff is only really useful once the FTP mirrors start carrying the new distribution format, so it isn't hooked up yet. I've been keeping track of (and minimizing) the tools used by the installer, which should help select what things should do on this disk and in case we also want to produce some super-minimal TFTP-able MFS root in the future. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 28 15:28:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2281106564A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E1B8FC29; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 285E246B2E; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.10]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BBE8E8A01B; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:20:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.4-CBSD-20110107; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201102281020.12599.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:28:04 -0500 (EST) Cc: FreeBSD Arch , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:28:05 -0000 On Monday, February 28, 2011 9:49:07 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a future > merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace sysinstall > on the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would like to pull > this switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. > > A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make > release must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get > non-sysinstall media): > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff Hmm, does your installed world include the pre-built mergemaster database? That should really be preserved. It happens here in the old release Makefile: # Install the system into the various distributions. release.2: cd ${.CURDIR}/.. && ${CROSSMAKE} distrib-dirs DESTDIR=${RD}/trees/base cd ${.CURDIR}/.. && ${CROSSMAKE} ${WORLD_FLAGS} distributeworld \ DISTDIR=${RD}/trees sh ${.CURDIR}/scripts/mm-mtree.sh -F "${CROSSENV}" -D "${RD}/trees/base" touch ${.TARGET} I use a one-line patch locally to bootstrap etcupdate into the worlds I package up at work via a similar one-liner. > Test ISOs for amd64 and i386 can be found here: > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110222.iso.bz2 > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110224.iso.bz2 > > More recent test ISOs, as well as ones for other architectures, may be > available at: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall > > Bug reports would be very appreciated at this time. There are three > known bugs currently, which will be fixed soon, so please don't report > these: error reporting is not graceful if there are no writable disks in > the system, you must select at least one optional component, and the doc > build is not currently connected to the releases. > > There are some changes to the distribution format involved in this > patch, which are outlined below, and about which I would also appreciate > feedback: > - The src tree is not split up into pieces (e.g. ssbin) as with sysinstall I would at least like to have src split up into two pieces: 1) would be equivalent of sbase and ssys of old distributions, so you could choose to just install kernel sources along with the top-level Makefile bits to build kernels. I commonly install this subset on production machines so I can install a custom kernel in a pinch. 2) would be everything else in the source tree. > - Distfiles are not chunked, but are single xz-compressed archives > - There is only one CD image produced, which is always also a live CD > - There are no packages on this CD. There is about 100 MB of free space > on it right now, so it might make sense to keep it this way and to make > a separate packages CD/DVD. Removing packages from disc1 also makes > cross-building release ISOs possible. Packages were always optional on disc1 anyway, but moving them completely off is probably ok. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 2 15:37:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E45B106564A; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from adsum.doit.wisc.edu (adsum.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07B28FC12; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:37:04 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LHF00M0KSPSJA00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 09:37:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-75-50-89-165.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [75.50.89.165]) by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHF0082KSPM8T60@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 09:36:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 09:36:58 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <201102281020.12599.jhb@freebsd.org> To: John Baldwin Message-id: <4D6E641A.4060109@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-13, Version=5.6.0.2009776, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.3.2.152715, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> <201102281020.12599.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110301 Thunderbird/3.1.8 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Arch Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:37:05 -0000 On 02/28/11 09:20, John Baldwin wrote: > On Monday, February 28, 2011 9:49:07 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a future >> merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace sysinstall >> on the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would like to pull >> this switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. >> >> A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make >> release must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get >> non-sysinstall media): >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff > Hmm, does your installed world include the pre-built mergemaster database? > That should really be preserved. > > It happens here in the old release Makefile: > > # Install the system into the various distributions. > release.2: > cd ${.CURDIR}/..&& ${CROSSMAKE} distrib-dirs DESTDIR=${RD}/trees/base > cd ${.CURDIR}/..&& ${CROSSMAKE} ${WORLD_FLAGS} distributeworld \ > DISTDIR=${RD}/trees > sh ${.CURDIR}/scripts/mm-mtree.sh -F "${CROSSENV}" -D > "${RD}/trees/base" > touch ${.TARGET} > > I use a one-line patch locally to bootstrap etcupdate into the worlds I > package up at work via a similar one-liner. And this is why sending out patches for review is a good idea. I've updated my code to call into this script, though it would be nice if, say, make distribution handled this. Thanks for pointing it out. >> Test ISOs for amd64 and i386 can be found here: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110222.iso.bz2 >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110224.iso.bz2 >> >> More recent test ISOs, as well as ones for other architectures, may be >> available at: >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall >> >> Bug reports would be very appreciated at this time. There are three >> known bugs currently, which will be fixed soon, so please don't report >> these: error reporting is not graceful if there are no writable disks in >> the system, you must select at least one optional component, and the doc >> build is not currently connected to the releases. >> >> There are some changes to the distribution format involved in this >> patch, which are outlined below, and about which I would also appreciate >> feedback: >> - The src tree is not split up into pieces (e.g. ssbin) as with sysinstall > I would at least like to have src split up into two pieces: > > 1) would be equivalent of sbase and ssys of old distributions, so you could > choose to just install kernel sources along with the top-level Makefile bits > to build kernels. I commonly install this subset on production machines so I > can install a custom kernel in a pinch. > > 2) would be everything else in the source tree. This is a little bit tricky, since it involves inter-distribution dependencies which don't currently exist (e.g. you need sbase for ssys to be useful, and for severythingelse to be useful). I suppose that the top-level Makefile bits are small and could end up in both archives, where one can overwrite the other with the same thing. Would that solve your problem? -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 2 16:06:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E31D106567F; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nyan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sakura.ccs.furiru.org (sakura.ccs.furiru.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:8060::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7298FC1D; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (authenticated bits=0) by sakura.ccs.furiru.org (unknown) with ESMTP id p22G6TL3047133; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:06:32 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from nyan@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:06:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20110303.010628.59640143160060699.nyan@FreeBSD.org> To: nwhitehorn@freebsd.org From: TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro In-Reply-To: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:06:37 -0000 In article <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> Nathan Whitehorn writes: > BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a > future merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace > sysinstall on the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would > like to pull this switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. > > A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make > release must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get > non-sysinstall media): > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff In Makefile.bsdinstall: +cdrom: + echo kernel_options=\"-C\" > ${DISTDIR}/release/boot/loader.conf + sh /usr/src/release/${TARGET}/mkisoimages.sh -b FreeBSD_Install ${DISTDIR}/release.iso ${DISTDIR}/release + rm ${DISTDIR}/release/boot/loader.conf ${TARGET} must be ${TARGET_ARCH} because pc98 and sunv4 don't have mkisoimages.sh script. Do you have a plan to add a floppy support as boot device? Pc98 machines which can boot from CD-ROM are very limited. So we usually use FD for boot media to install. --- TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 2 16:12:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC32106564A; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8448FC08; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:12:00 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LHF00100UBZAS00@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:11:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-75-50-89-165.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [75.50.89.165]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHF00DILUBNXY70@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:11:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:11:47 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <20110303.010628.59640143160060699.nyan@FreeBSD.org> To: TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro Message-id: <4D6E6C43.4010101@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-12, Version=5.6.0.2009776, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.3.2.160315, SenderIP=75.50.89.165 References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> <20110303.010628.59640143160060699.nyan@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110301 Thunderbird/3.1.8 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:12:01 -0000 On 03/02/11 10:06, TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro wrote: > In article<4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> > Nathan Whitehorn writes: > >> BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a >> future merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace >> sysinstall on the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would >> like to pull this switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. >> >> A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make >> release must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get >> non-sysinstall media): >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff > In Makefile.bsdinstall: > > +cdrom: > + echo kernel_options=\"-C\"> ${DISTDIR}/release/boot/loader.conf > + sh /usr/src/release/${TARGET}/mkisoimages.sh -b FreeBSD_Install ${DISTDIR}/release.iso ${DISTDIR}/release > + rm ${DISTDIR}/release/boot/loader.conf > > ${TARGET} must be ${TARGET_ARCH} because pc98 and sunv4 don't have > mkisoimages.sh script. I was thinking of just copying the i386/mkisoimages.sh and making the -G behavior the default. It seems to me to make more sense to use MACHINE than MACHINE_ARCH for this, since pc98 seems to have different requirements than i386. We could just copy the sparc64 install script for sun4v. > Do you have a plan to add a floppy support as boot device? Pc98 > machines which can boot from CD-ROM are very limited. So we usually > use FD for boot media to install. No, I hadn't thought about this. If there aren't any machines you care about that don't have a CD drive at all, we could try a CD-bootloader-on-a-floppy as a solution. I think a totally floppy based install would be very difficult to arrange, however. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 2 16:47:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D774106564A; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289738FC14; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B49F446B06; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.10]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 202598A027; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:47:52 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Nathan Whitehorn Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:45:33 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.4-CBSD-20110107; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> <201102281020.12599.jhb@freebsd.org> <4D6E641A.4060109@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4D6E641A.4060109@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103021145.33376.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 02 Mar 2011 11:47:52 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Arch Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:47:53 -0000 On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:36:58 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 02/28/11 09:20, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Monday, February 28, 2011 9:49:07 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a future > >> merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace sysinstall > >> on the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would like to pull > >> this switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. > >> > >> A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make > >> release must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get > >> non-sysinstall media): > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff > > Hmm, does your installed world include the pre-built mergemaster database? > > That should really be preserved. > > > > It happens here in the old release Makefile: > > > > # Install the system into the various distributions. > > release.2: > > cd ${.CURDIR}/..&& ${CROSSMAKE} distrib-dirs DESTDIR=${RD}/trees/base > > cd ${.CURDIR}/..&& ${CROSSMAKE} ${WORLD_FLAGS} distributeworld \ > > DISTDIR=${RD}/trees > > sh ${.CURDIR}/scripts/mm-mtree.sh -F "${CROSSENV}" -D > > "${RD}/trees/base" > > touch ${.TARGET} > > > > I use a one-line patch locally to bootstrap etcupdate into the worlds I > > package up at work via a similar one-liner. > > And this is why sending out patches for review is a good idea. I've > updated my code to call into this script, though it would be nice if, > say, make distribution handled this. Thanks for pointing it out. > > >> Test ISOs for amd64 and i386 can be found here: > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110222.iso.bz2 > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110224.iso.bz2 > >> > >> More recent test ISOs, as well as ones for other architectures, may be > >> available at: > >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall > >> > >> Bug reports would be very appreciated at this time. There are three > >> known bugs currently, which will be fixed soon, so please don't report > >> these: error reporting is not graceful if there are no writable disks in > >> the system, you must select at least one optional component, and the doc > >> build is not currently connected to the releases. > >> > >> There are some changes to the distribution format involved in this > >> patch, which are outlined below, and about which I would also appreciate > >> feedback: > >> - The src tree is not split up into pieces (e.g. ssbin) as with sysinstall > > I would at least like to have src split up into two pieces: > > > > 1) would be equivalent of sbase and ssys of old distributions, so you could > > choose to just install kernel sources along with the top-level Makefile bits > > to build kernels. I commonly install this subset on production machines so I > > can install a custom kernel in a pinch. > > > > 2) would be everything else in the source tree. > > This is a little bit tricky, since it involves inter-distribution > dependencies which don't currently exist (e.g. you need sbase for ssys > to be useful, and for severythingelse to be useful). I suppose that the > top-level Makefile bits are small and could end up in both archives, > where one can overwrite the other with the same thing. Would that solve > your problem? Hmm, my thinking is ssys would include sbase, and severythingelse would require ssys. That is already true since libc needs syscall.mk from the kernel sources anyway. From a user perspective you end up with three choices: no sources, kernel sources, or all sources. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 3 09:10:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECD91065673; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nyan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sakura.ccs.furiru.org (sakura.ccs.furiru.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:8060::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3A68FC1B; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (authenticated bits=0) by sakura.ccs.furiru.org (unknown) with ESMTP id p239AkWK051515; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:10:48 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from nyan@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:10:45 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20110303.181045.59640143227211744.nyan@FreeBSD.org> To: nwhitehorn@freebsd.org From: TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro In-Reply-To: <4D6E6C43.4010101@freebsd.org> References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> <20110303.010628.59640143160060699.nyan@FreeBSD.org> <4D6E6C43.4010101@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:10:50 -0000 In article <4D6E6C43.4010101@freebsd.org> Nathan Whitehorn writes: >> Do you have a plan to add a floppy support as boot device? Pc98 >> machines which can boot from CD-ROM are very limited. So we usually >> use FD for boot media to install. > > No, I hadn't thought about this. If there aren't any machines you care > about that don't have a CD drive at all, we could try a > CD-bootloader-on-a-floppy as a solution. I think a totally floppy > based install would be very difficult to arrange, however. The boot-only-floppy image is very useful for us. --- TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 3 17:19:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270DC106566C; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jh@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28EB8FC19; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p23HJoac017334; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:19:50 GMT (envelope-from jh@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p23HJoLY017330; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:19:50 GMT (envelope-from jh) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:19:50 GMT Message-Id: <201103031719.p23HJoLY017330@freefall.freebsd.org> To: marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com, jh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org From: jh@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/73511: sysinstall(8): SCSI drive install failure - RC2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:19:51 -0000 Synopsis: sysinstall(8): SCSI drive install failure - RC2 State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: jh State-Changed-When: Thu Mar 3 17:19:50 UTC 2011 State-Changed-Why: Feedback timeout. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=73511 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 4 20:46:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F7B106564A; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC728FC12; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so1024950yxl.13 for ; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:46:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=28W+1CaOA1qxqlTmUv491BCcjp0g+/UfrKW6Yj4ILhs=; b=MwJu/PjqtmGLi1+yGO18bSBhNCKaeSqb3IW4/JIx6jCGuaXTfdTO5ZHa0sY7tld16C PokK8UI6bXsbJo6ibj6aQLtZ9hZjfUvu2jVhkWfTm7zpWoEDyeL+VQ2Qx3lznzg6IYoC Z0grPa8+2C7iwsE12PhnmDeOgrEM2roM8GdOk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cdkEI9MEg/ltrIzf5AiGj+J+3T1e/Lq1JFfxamXO/OZVbsIUpdWJGb/PZXSBU7NbkA Y6RfWVfrrDRFphOiRLDyJZcCHWzNZ9QVgVvOPPBR7Afa/nE9rqdtHBrN5iyu6AoAn4Om kqVUwx0aZASoCbVHSOmENFXjni11YGDVfVWFI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.102.11 with SMTP id e11mr450842anm.60.1299270260113; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.171.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:24:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:24:20 -0800 Message-ID: From: Freddie Cash To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-current Current , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 20:46:06 -0000 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a future > merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace sysinstall on > the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would like to pull this > switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. > > A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make release > must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get non-sysinstall > media): > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff > > Test ISOs for amd64 and i386 can be found here: > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110222.iso.bz2 > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110224.iso.bz2 > > More recent test ISOs, as well as ones for other architectures, may be > available at: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall Any chance of a memstick.img version being made available? Or, does anyone have instructions on how to convert the ISO images into memstick images? Preferably using a Linux station, not a FreeBSD station. I have a beautiful 24-drive system here just crying out for testing 9-CURRENT and ZFSv28, but it doesn't have any bootable media except USB sticks. And the 2011-01-* memstick snapshot of 9-CURRENT fails with "can't create device node in /dev" errors when trying to newfs the CompactFlash disk that will be /. -- Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 4 21:05:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384991065675; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAEF8FC12; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mac2.unsane.co.uk (mac2.unsane.co.uk [10.10.10.191] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p24L5ooD024992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:05:50 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4D71542C.6040607@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:05:48 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freddie Cash References: <4D6BB5E3.6020408@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current Current , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for review/testing: switching the default installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:05:52 -0000 On 04/03/2011 20:24, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: >> BSDinstall has acquired at this point its final form (prior to a future >> merge with pc-sysinstall), and I believe is ready to replace sysinstall on >> the 9.0 snapshot ISOs. Barring any objections, I would like to pull this >> switch 2 weeks from today, on the 14th of March. >> >> A patch to the release infrastructure code can be found here (make release >> must be run with Makefile.bsdinstall using this patch to get non-sysinstall >> media): >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-release.diff >> >> Test ISOs for amd64 and i386 can be found here: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-amd64-20110222.iso.bz2 >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110224.iso.bz2 >> >> More recent test ISOs, as well as ones for other architectures, may be >> available at: >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall > Any chance of a memstick.img version being made available? > > Or, does anyone have instructions on how to convert the ISO images > into memstick images? Preferably using a Linux station, not a FreeBSD > station. > > I have a beautiful 24-drive system here just crying out for testing > 9-CURRENT and ZFSv28, but it doesn't have any bootable media except > USB sticks. And the 2011-01-* memstick snapshot of 9-CURRENT fails > with "can't create device node in /dev" errors when trying to newfs > the CompactFlash disk that will be /. > Its always worth having a go with the images from http://pub.allbsd.org/FreeBSD-snapshots http://pub.allbsd.org/FreeBSD-snapshots/amd64-amd64/9.0-HEAD-20110304-JPSNAP/cdrom/FreeBSD-9.0-HEAD-20110304-JPSNAP-amd64-amd64-memstick.img for example. Vince