From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 26 11:07:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96C10656D4 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B88D8FC1E for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8QB7CDI088292 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:07:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8QB7BuQ088290 for freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:07:11 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:07:11 GMT Message-Id: <201109261107.p8QB7BuQ088290@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:07:12 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o bin/157635 sysinstall sysinstall(8): "none" Do not install a boot manager - o bin/157117 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Add ftp4.se.freebsd.org to list of IPv6 o bin/154788 sysinstall sysinstall(8) crashes if no network interface found o bin/154613 sysinstall sysinstall(8) does not rescan USB automatically o bin/151229 sysinstall sysinstall(8) - shift-tab doesn't work as expected o bin/150995 sysinstall sysinstall(8): corruption of partition table s bin/150237 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Suggestion: installer should suggest th o bin/148805 sysinstall [hang] FreeBSD 7.2, 8.0, and 9.0 hang during install a f bin/148220 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 9.0-current gets "Cannot resolv hostnam o bin/148201 sysinstall sysinstall(8): core dump (Error 10) while trying to in o bin/148053 sysinstall sysinstall(8) labeling o bin/146299 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot create slice o bin/145735 sysinstall sysinstall(8) trashes Vista-created partition tables o bin/145027 sysinstall Remove all sysinstall(8) references to floppy and slip o bin/144278 sysinstall [install] Fixit from USB dont work o bin/142867 sysinstall sysinstall(8): in a custom installation re-entering th o misc/142335 sysinstall Download of Release 8.0 LIVE is NOT a "live" from CD p o bin/140843 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot software install from usb o bin/140842 sysinstall sysinstall(8): destroyed ncurses interface with FBSD8. o bin/140595 sysinstall [request] sysinstall(8): Replace "Country Selection" w o bin/138423 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Installer (and sade) get wrong number o o bin/138025 sysinstall sysinstall(8) fails to create big partition o bin/137864 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): add possibility to shutdown/pow o bin/137713 sysinstall sysinstall(8): installer partition editor generates in o bin/134425 sysinstall sysinstall(8) custom distributions select all and dese o bin/129762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) doesn't seem to support GPT for EFI boar s bin/123304 sysinstall sysinstall(8): missing sensible and user friendly prog o bin/121503 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 7.0 upgrade doesn't let me mount all of a bin/121124 sysinstall sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR pa o bin/119077 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) - reading packages from index is o bin/113682 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) warns for invalid geometry which o bin/112757 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8): in the FDISK tool we can o bin/110151 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8) don't respects install ro o bin/108191 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Disklabel editor help text (by F1 key) o bin/107830 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Change Units (Z) in fdisk doesn't work p bin/102638 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): custom dist set always install o bin/102498 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Cursor doesn't track sysinstall hilight a bin/101762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) does not obey /usr/ports symlink while i o bin/97108 sysinstall sysinstall(8): write failure on transfer (wrote -1 byt o bin/93275 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Failure to install after restarting ins o bin/90656 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 6.0-RELEASE (i386) cannot be installed s bin/86859 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Installer should ask about Linux earlie o bin/86454 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall terminates with signal 10 if o bin/79910 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Cannot escape from failed port/package o bin/79840 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Partitioning and formating a new disk f o bin/79621 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8) does not create a device o bin/78964 sysinstall sysinstall(8): can not write labels to hdd on installa s bin/73617 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fdisk editor unmarks active partition o bin/73410 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall could not allocate disklabel o bin/72895 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall generates invalid partition o bin/70002 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fails to locate FTP dirs if the OS has o bin/69986 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] no job control in fixit shell o o bin/69942 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall changes /etc/rc.conf after i o bin/69723 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] allow to continue from packag o bin/62702 sysinstall sysinstall(8): backup of /etc and /root during sysinst o bin/62367 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 5.2.1-RC installation problems o bin/61890 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fdisk(8) uses incorrect calculations fo o bin/61603 sysinstall sysinstall(8): wrong geometry guessed o bin/60632 sysinstall sysinstall(8): UI bug in partition label screen in sys o bin/53341 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] dump frequency in sysinstall is o bin/48989 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall's partition editor gets con s bin/48341 sysinstall sysinstall(8): changes the active slice flag when it p o bin/46905 sysinstall sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 5.x cannot be installed from mu f bin/46235 sysinstall sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updatin o bin/42162 sysinstall sysinstall(8): after restart, installation crashes, md o bin/41949 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall sorts /etc/rc.conf during ne o bin/41850 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall fails to create root filesys f bin/40260 sysinstall sysinstall(8): hang when detecting devices (No CD/DVD s conf/39580 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] more secure mount options o bin/38854 sysinstall sysinstall(8): resetting during setup causes the targe s bin/38609 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] sysinstall should know the si o bin/38478 sysinstall sysinstall(8): In Choose Distributions screen, it's di o bin/38057 sysinstall sysinstall(8): "install" document doesn't display corr o bin/38056 sysinstall sysinstall(8): User (creation)'s "Member groups" item o bin/38055 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Groups (creation) item should be before o bin/37710 sysinstall sysinstall(8): LAN interface in wrong state after atte a bin/32375 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall doesn't respect User generat o bin/31363 sysinstall sysinstall(8): "partition editor" silently corrects pa a bin/30737 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall leaks file descriptors on re o bin/29375 sysinstall sysinstall(8): disk editor gets confused by slices tha a bin/23402 sysinstall sysinstall(8): upgrade ought to check partition sizes o bin/16948 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall/disklabel: bad partition tab o bin/15038 sysinstall sysinstall(8): easy to not notice that selection lists s bin/7232 sysinstall sysinstall(8): suggestion for FreeBSD installation dia 84 problems total. From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 27 21:06:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C34106564A for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2728FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:06:34 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LS700B006IY5H00@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (i3-user-nat.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.12]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LS7007KT6IXSX10@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:06:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:06:33 -0500 From: Nathan Whitehorn To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Message-id: <4E822CC9.2060604@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=128.104.255.12 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-9, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.9.27.200015, SenderIP=128.104.255.12 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110917 Thunderbird/6.0.2 Subject: Removing sysinstall from 10.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:06:35 -0000 For the 9.x branch, we're keeping all 3 installers in the base system, but I'd like to remove sysinstall from 10.x now that the releng/9 branch has been made, along with its associated forest of crufty old dependencies (libdisk, libftpio, etc.). Does anyone have strong reasons not to do this? Otherwise I'll consign sysinstall to the attic on Friday 30 Sept. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 28 00:30:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D351106567C; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E561B8FC13; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CC8E6C00; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:30:13 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=subject :mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=mail; bh= IWqXiq5SM1VF994uUTn6cK+BPOQ=; b=bl3HjdKaRplS2qZrCPvAyEDywrTRMC+G gRsnNK9VhZ3PPbpM1spF6YQyNRm32adx2KfIWVARDLfGDOcn2rkNybLl9TpAii9G VXPB+fuX5MWhSEAlJpKkcPot+uYcXLP4I68+lf8Ch3EMWpzCPGYe6lPPURB9nR8m 49u9cYd4oQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=subject :mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s= mail; b=FFZcUqf0CvC2fOfbh5ejloi5BIfnYUhqZmfOw7F6epK8UMiEnHrhxXF0 wSHwnjvh+NK/rpXngLhCy+Z3lOh8Yj5tcdAGcCtQ+IJ6ZEH+cXhFX2amlbx9RWz3 t08DGLOmXg3Pyc0YtO+lReGN6J5es32pE/RYcRRKiNJbt//wElo= Received: from [10.64.87.224] (70-90-212-91-saltlake.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.90.212.91]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5389DE6A01; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:30:13 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <4E822CC9.2060604@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:30:11 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1830421F-CF9A-4ED6-A6E2-898A0218C94C@cran.org.uk> References: <4E822CC9.2060604@freebsd.org> To: Nathan Whitehorn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing sysinstall from 10.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 00:30:15 -0000 On 27 Sep 2011, at 14:06, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > For the 9.x branch, we're keeping all 3 installers in the base system, = but I'd like to remove sysinstall from 10.x now that the releng/9 branch = has been made, along with its associated forest of crufty old = dependencies (libdisk, libftpio, etc.). Does anyone have strong reasons = not to do this? Otherwise I'll consign sysinstall to the attic on Friday = 30 Sept. What's the 3rd? I know of sysinstall and bsdinstall. --=20 Bruce Cran= From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 28 01:41:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68481106566C; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@ixsystems.com) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (newknight.ixsystems.com [206.40.55.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB718FC13; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ixsystems.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F56A66432; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ixsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78158-05; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkbsd.divinix.org (unknown [10.8.0.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C0B9A66404; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:23:07 -0700 From: John Hixson To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20110928012307.GD2797@thinkbsd.divinix.org> References: <4E822CC9.2060604@freebsd.org> <1830421F-CF9A-4ED6-A6E2-898A0218C94C@cran.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1830421F-CF9A-4ED6-A6E2-898A0218C94C@cran.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing sysinstall from 10.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:41:09 -0000 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 06:30:11PM -0600, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 27 Sep 2011, at 14:06, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > > For the 9.x branch, we're keeping all 3 installers in the base system, but I'd like to remove sysinstall from 10.x now that the releng/9 branch has been made, along with its associated forest of crufty old dependencies (libdisk, libftpio, etc.). Does anyone have strong reasons not to do this? Otherwise I'll consign sysinstall to the attic on Friday 30 Sept. > > What's the 3rd? I know of sysinstall and bsdinstall. pc-sysinstall > > -- > Bruce Cran_______________________________________________ > freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sysinstall > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-sysinstall-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 28 06:18:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CA9106564A; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D4F8FC14; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so6567836wyj.13 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:18:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rt9Yjypk8YoWwHmsVvgOZvOi2x5PgBnLYkX633ROxY0=; b=W4qAYC04a4aNKxePJe3JxBdsZ0EEh4glb02JM1kqFHxJON+W9ZMeFgvqVQhbIa4l2X KRuyzzBJP9fcFwyOUG5uOc2LuuFe1yGkW/L9KypOTFt01wfw379uK4AIdadeZVaq7BBv YZslxCtOFcL4TVg+b8c/qBsnv+vRc1/D0i8wE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.200 with SMTP id n8mr10093784wbj.19.1317188872689; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.180.106.131 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:47:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E822CC9.2060604@freebsd.org> References: <4E822CC9.2060604@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:47:52 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -wYarj15_VHQJ9ZajDRreg1Za0I Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing sysinstall from 10.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:18:35 -0000 The only reason I see this being a problem is for the handful of users that will continue to rely on it for their automated roll-outs. -- randi On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > For the 9.x branch, we're keeping all 3 installers in the base system, but > I'd like to remove sysinstall from 10.x now that the releng/9 branch has > been made, along with its associated forest of crufty old dependencies > (libdisk, libftpio, etc.). Does anyone have strong reasons not to do this? > Otherwise I'll consign sysinstall to the attic on Friday 30 Sept. > -Nathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sysinstall > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-sysinstall-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 28 14:40:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C901065673; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF138FC12; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SBHFISLREXT03 ([10.132.254.62]) by SCSFISLTC01 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8SDshm2013467; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:54:43 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.121]) by SBHFISLREXT03 with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:55:16 -0500 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:54:43 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.103] (10.14.152.54) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:54:39 -0500 References: <4E822CC9.2060604@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <205F87C5-8465-4FCC-A01A-A634937F953D@fisglobal.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Devin Teske Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:54:24 -0700 To: Randi Harper X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.54] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2011 13:54:43.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CE818A0:01CC7DE6] Cc: "" Subject: * Re: Removing sysinstall from 10.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:40:50 -0000 On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Randi Harper wrote: > The only reason I see this being a problem is for the handful of users > that will continue to rely on it for their automated roll-outs. >=20 > -- randi I'm envisioning 2-3 years from now, we'll either: a) rewrite our installer to use the new automation (and if it can't do the = job we'll patch it), or... b) roll 10.x release into a split-tarball so sysinstall can lay it down (as= suming that we're still using UFS1/2 as a filesystem for the OS (one of the= shortcomings of sysinstall). Either way, shouldn't be too much of a problem. I for one welcome our new b= sdinstall and/or pc-sysinstall overlord. > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: >> For the 9.x branch, we're keeping all 3 installers in the base system, b= ut >> I'd like to remove sysinstall from 10.x now that the releng/9 branch has >> been made, along with its associated forest of crufty old dependencies >> (libdisk, libftpio, etc.). 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Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 29 04:09:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116A91065674; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9F18FC0C; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8T49amr049617; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:09:36 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8T49a1v049613; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:09:36 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:09:36 GMT Message-Id: <201109290409.p8T49a1v049613@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kirma@cs.hut.fi, eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/46235: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:09:37 -0000 Synopsis: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: eadler State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 29 04:09:36 UTC 2011 State-Changed-Why: These servers appear to be working to me as well. If this is still an issue please reply and I will re open http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 29 05:53:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CE3106564A for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirma@cs.hut.fi) Received: from mail.cs.hut.fi (mail.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE138FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi ([130.233.192.10]) by mail.cs.hut.fi with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.54) id 1R996a-0005h8-2Z; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:24:20 +0300 Received: from localhost (kirma@localhost) by hutcs.cs.hut.fi (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p8T5OJ4H021891; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:24:19 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: hutcs.cs.hut.fi: kirma owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:24:19 +0300 (EEST) From: Jari Kirma X-X-Sender: kirma@hutcs To: eadler@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <201109290409.p8T49a1v049613@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <201109290409.p8T49a1v049613@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (GSO 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/46235: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:53:59 -0000 On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, eadler@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating > > State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed > State-Changed-By: eadler > State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 29 04:09:36 UTC 2011 > State-Changed-Why: > These servers appear to be working to me as well. If this is still an > issue please reply and I will re open > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 keso.fi is a domain for a regional technical college in Finland - which actually is no more, after merging with another one. These kinds of organizations usually don't have maintenance of NTP services very high on the list of their priorities. They have moved their web presence under a different domain, and eventually when the old one expires, it may well be gone forever. Considering the pace this PR changes, that is happening quite soon. Mikes (as mentioned in the original PR), offers public NTP service, and neither the organization, domain nor the services are likely to suddenly disappear, as they are official maintainers of time standards in Finland. (... and more than that, as their front page tells: "MIKES metrology realises the SI system measurement units in Finland.") These official time standards are not freely available, but stratum 2 service is offered at as best effort service. This is described at http://www.mikes.fi/frameset.aspx?url=page.aspx?contentID=318 (Mikes: "Julkinen NTP-palvelu"), which Google can translate to bearable English. From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 29 15:49:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823A3106566C; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B00E8FC13; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8TFnvJg032679; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:49:57 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8TFnuab032675; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:49:56 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:49:56 GMT Message-Id: <201109291549.p8TFnuab032675@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kirma@cs.hut.fi, eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/46235: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:49:57 -0000 Synopsis: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating State-Changed-From-To: closed->open State-Changed-By: eadler State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 29 15:49:56 UTC 2011 State-Changed-Why: Additional feedback recieved http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235