From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 31 06:18:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60FF367 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9CB8FC16 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBV6I30G069528 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:18:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50E12E1B.6090403@missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:18:03 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ctm-users@freebsd.org" Subject: Problems with ctm-cvs-cur X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:18:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tonight cvs-cur didn't create a delta. The reason is that cvsup deleted most of the contents of "www" without putting them into any kind of "Attic." The program that generates the delta only allows up to 2500 files to be deleted in any one delta. Presumably this is to avoid problems if huge numbers of files are deleted accidentally at the other end. And this is quite likely what really happened. I would like to encourage people to move to svn-cur. I have been testing it for quite a while now, and it seems to be working very well. cvs-cur is a rather hard set of deltas to maintain, particularly now that FreeBSD is no longer based upon cvs. Just in terms of generating deltas, it takes about 2 hours to create. Whereas the typical svn-cur delta takes less than a minute to create (the really big ones take at most 5 minutes to create). Also, cvs-cur is hard to maintain because it is the most troublesome. As I have said, I plan to get rid of cvs-cur around the end of February. And when it goes I will be very relieved. In the meantime, I really don't know what caused the last breakage, and I cannot predict if it will fix itself tomorrow, or whether it will remain broken for quite a while. As I said, I don't think the problem is at my end, Thanks, Stephen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ4S4bAAoJEC3xK9GaktgHMVsIAL35SNrWFXbJp08eA32CsTGh h1rkBsvxrPF7lAtSS6sim1SqDjAQpmBNAwS4xVetvoTqpOVXUYzw19JuLyt95ctB EU0PeuehU/s9sx0FMHF7dxj4hennPQ9sO1AgKM/oPvu3t0VcEmTasJEwdxNwDhsk W8B/bKlx/JqXS5ChaCzmTShjZfuMFJTdTGw5+j2ywpkCuu0L9/CnoJrs4IciQuuq M4J9hLUGjTk9Fs3xfgXuPoBOD43/5TMQM8jsHOypndnq8m7LXzOciXbiB9G0SJwU w1Nd9gPjozMjZvs74/DFIj3FueQY0xyni6XJdVt9QnbLuWeef74Zz948HkdApw8= =Ktkn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 31 17:52:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B84562 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AFF8FC08 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBVHq1G2054639 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:52:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50E1D0C1.3020601@missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:52:01 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Request for feedback: how many of you still use cvs-cur? References: <50E12E1B.6090403@missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <50E12E1B.6090403@missouri.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:52:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Given yesterday's problems with cvs-cur (see below), I want to know how much effort I should expend on fixing it. If everyone is now switched to svn-cur, I won't put any effort into it. So how many of you are still using cvs-cur? On 12/31/2012 12:18 AM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Tonight cvs-cur didn't create a delta. The reason is that cvsup > deleted most of the contents of "www" without putting them into > any kind of "Attic." The program that generates the delta only > allows up to 2500 files to be deleted in any one delta. Presumably > this is to avoid problems if huge numbers of files are deleted > accidentally at the other end. And this is quite likely what > really happened. > > I would like to encourage people to move to svn-cur. I have been > testing it for quite a while now, and it seems to be working very > well. > > cvs-cur is a rather hard set of deltas to maintain, particularly > now that FreeBSD is no longer based upon cvs. Just in terms of > generating deltas, it takes about 2 hours to create. Whereas the > typical svn-cur delta takes less than a minute to create (the > really big ones take at most 5 minutes to create). > > Also, cvs-cur is hard to maintain because it is the most > troublesome. As I have said, I plan to get rid of cvs-cur around > the end of February. And when it goes I will be very relieved. > > In the meantime, I really don't know what caused the last > breakage, and I cannot predict if it will fix itself tomorrow, or > whether it will remain broken for quite a while. As I said, I > don't think the problem is at my end, > > Thanks, Stephen _______________________________________________ > ctm-users@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users To unsubscribe, > send any mail to "ctm-users-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ4dDBAAoJEC3xK9GaktgHzCYH/i4gkMtcapzQszTSW+xp5rnp 8bQNvDWSC3eFVr2knzlP7IKmqphIaihRGl3preI9vFiD1xDvuvDivLOQ1wZzDPc0 f4JWZ0lg4fzuGgmToVqdp02FK8yUTkIzrDZCHy6fqVV51ELoKKn2P5CA/v8bXWXe 0Phq9mlFvOjRKJ7ozUYLNzOxlIkcno9yH95o4Rdj1ZigkBmqH4bOQLVpj2Nhtz/j bualld38tDCp8cjvBYb5Gcrw4LTg3q9D7x6choPp9QRq2A04OsVEp6XVr+w/rkbG 9meyhgxuWmEBWAllj0ZbusR273l0EJUxhMB7VnZfvlF5GKxSNBFijkpwybAmQ0Y= =r6cS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 31 18:05:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90D5918 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1E98FC13 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBVI50Yu055494 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:05:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50E1D3CC.50006@missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:05:00 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with ctm-cvs-cur References: <50E12E1B.6090403@missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <50E12E1B.6090403@missouri.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:05:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/2012 12:18 AM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Tonight cvs-cur didn't create a delta. The reason is that cvsup > deleted most of the contents of "www" without putting them into > any kind of "Attic." The program that generates the delta only > allows up to 2500 files to be deleted in any one delta. Presumably > this is to avoid problems if huge numbers of files are deleted > accidentally at the other end. And this is quite likely what > really happened. OK, I have just been informed that www and doc are no longer a part of cvs. So I will create a delta with the allowable number of files deleted set at a much higher number. I'll probably do this later today, as time-wise I am too close to the next delta creation cycle (2pm CST). P.S. I will want the feedback about how many of you are using cvs-cur. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ4dPMAAoJEC3xK9GaktgHNEcH/RJYck/21bbw9LOsZ+F9bMYg bGm9DWb9y7TTP3L55Mj/VXiSi+RP2GluYTFjGfvZ1PVXbXMYPW3i+hjLmyirQWQI CJwjEw6C2HrB5y7y6U76MbDRl8WapVy+JdyHdreG4q5wcy2A6iwlRLFK+zmVSQy+ rj6W9TkxpBSKK0SxocdYCgr1NXP4ObxXlR8lqdKDA+9wHxa3zrmmKbw0tBBvk+xZ RN12kO0pugTZ1kG1mSeFDuTwUsb2bk/CBkLR2N316oLRva7iJEEhOIb9Qs4GECVu UET5c8hgqeqAZaXoTKVfP9hAXNxmy3Ucxz4/job2ybPaABq+1L9J5r64DeMdh6A= =rz7t -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----