From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 05:20:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112D2D87 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 05:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin.kelly4000@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1118FC14 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 05:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n9so2984303oag.13 for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 21:20:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4UZerF3AmxOmIuMqxOtIMVjV3c7Jwz9qiir+rvv2XVw=; b=TZU+l8gdrpmMJ4+kRQrcMcsIFwV563qOiqY6AU89N3GWCl7p1HfGSRv+qtyW14kcAh /ODhIH3fpQ6YGVNUp0c258sjk9saH35AWT3DkJ2eV5633A3ihtsTFLwQGbS13eP8x5VV bOME2abwg5+D6ddz7eFLQ//dZKv2vUnX8Ns/dVcHzZi225eOeZIqvICkysxDqypRXLzs VcTVTDONMPpxYiT418Ph5CAUwmFDTi3n4/2MXvRTRGcdwxY0vzcGuKV0cX35lGPtU/8M N3G6R8kWTpKar62ZpATaFGMCTIFobU9A4uBZVBcTsb9l3Cseg7jWjK0bdHyh+73oBK3M kFdg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.170.114 with SMTP id al18mr7441919oec.56.1354512050288; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 21:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.76.233 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 21:20:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1352882728.28075.140661153435965.302F0E4C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87a9tw5qju.fsf@inbox.ru> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:20:50 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: Unified BSD? From: Martin To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, users@dragonflybsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:20:51 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Martin Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Unified BSD? To: Aleksej Saushev I can see how you could misunderstand what i said. My point was about that each of the BSD's use pkgsrc in a different way and the releases from FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD or DflyBSD don't all rely on the exact same packages for every release (i.e. NetBSD 6 and FreeBSD 9 do not use the same version of GNOME-2 desktop; poor example), and that generally per BSD release they generally blob the binaries that are compatible for that release together. While each of the aformentioned distros run on a different release schedule (i.e. FreeBSD will release a new version a lot quicker than per-say NetBSD). These two things in combination with each other make it harder for one to update even if all BSD's had certain standardized components related to binaries and compatibility. That was not saying one can't use pkgsrc to update or install packages on an earlier version of BSD persay FreeBSD 6 or how pkgsrc releases binaries and source. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Aleksej Saushev wrote: > Martin writes: > > > The biggest fault i see with this idea is updates. Pkgsrc is generally > just > > one large blob of binaries or source that have been deemed stable and > > compatible with that current release of whichever BSD in question > > (generally archived by date). > > Sorry? This is just lie. pkgsrc is generally compatible with a lot more > than just current FreeBSD release. I have successfully used it on FreeBSD 6 > when it was forgotten upstream. > > > That means in its current form with each BSD > > on a different release schedule there would be incompatibilities for > those > > BSDs that don't update as frequently (namely NetBSD, OpenBSD & > > DragonflyBSD). Which means a change of how source and binaries are > archived > > not to mention pooled together. > > pkgsrc release cycle is shorter than that of any of all those operating > systems > you listed. > > > -- > HE CE3OH... > >