From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 00:12:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16ED106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463588FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a83-160-85-125.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.160.85.125]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q080BUuW015438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:11:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q080BUXF011365; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:11:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:11:30 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120108000709.d46ae36d.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120108000709.d46ae36d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a bootable iso for raid BIOS flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:12:08 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jan 2012, the wise Polytropon wrote: > If this is depending on the name "[BOOT]", there are > two ways to deal with special characters in file names, > if you need to specify them on the command line: > > a) use escape sequences: > -b \[BOOT\]/Bootable_HardDisk.img > > b) use quoting: > -b "[BOOT]/Bootable_HardDisk.img" I used escape sequences and that works. The "no match" error is gone. > Also read "man mkisofs" about the boot-related > options, especially -b, where > > If the boot image is not an image of a floppy, you need to add > one of the options: -hard-disk-boot or -no-emul-boot. If the > system should not boot off the emulated disk, use -no-boot. > > is mentioned. Maybe consider using -G instead of -b? I tried the -G option and removed the -hard-disk-boot option and now it created an iso without errors. The size is still 9MB though. I looked inside the original iso and the one generated by me but I really can't see any differences. -- The future is a race between education and catastrophe. -- H. G. Wells From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 00:12:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181C5106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A828FC1C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816C45C8 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:56:31 -0600 (CST) From: "Gene" To: "Freebsd Questions" Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:56:31 -0600 Message-Id: <20120107235342.M46137@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 127.0.0.1 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Subject: Installing Gambas port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:12:44 -0000 Is anyone successfully running Gambas on an amd64 system? My attempt at the port install dies because the dependency math/ldouble is 32 bit only. Any help appreciated. Gene -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 00:28:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787211065673 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward12.mail.yandex.net (forward12.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B398FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4704EC2234D for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:28:43 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1325982523; bh=+fZwqsBC/iDRPiv0evp0sK/uUZ7xQ8ubx4hlzjyZV+E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZIbAPHY+oo4Z74LQ3kp4AE5IK3ZYK6oEiuUSJzvvLM0PGcIilfn+kU1Vrn6EetevQ Ds+biD+aGwhCpsDsD78G886BlvJxmQT/nJTi0Arjh0QOmBIxyyySpLs2R3pKuGncBU Wah9+O3sHuw4uTx4qnytHfykUWEZVxMtJjCBxHY0= Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2ED9D1B603E4 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:28:43 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1325982523; bh=+fZwqsBC/iDRPiv0evp0sK/uUZ7xQ8ubx4hlzjyZV+E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZIbAPHY+oo4Z74LQ3kp4AE5IK3ZYK6oEiuUSJzvvLM0PGcIilfn+kU1Vrn6EetevQ Ds+biD+aGwhCpsDsD78G886BlvJxmQT/nJTi0Arjh0QOmBIxyyySpLs2R3pKuGncBU Wah9+O3sHuw4uTx4qnytHfykUWEZVxMtJjCBxHY0= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id SgHC5Yjj-SgHCshdi; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:28:43 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:28:40 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1663350918.20120108022840@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: No buffer space available on igb0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:28:45 -0000 Hi # uname -a FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #7: Sat Jan 7 00:24:06 EET 2012 @:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9 i386 igb stops to work. saing 'No bufferspace available' no messages in /var/log/messages.log, /var/log/console.log, dmesg is empty tcpdump -n -i igb0 shows nothing. pull out LAN cable from igb0 card: # ifconfig igb0 igb0: flags=8d43 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=401bb ether 00:1b:21:45:da:b8 inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:fe45:dab8%igb0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active but expected: 'status: no carrier' other interface in system re0 continue to work fine. CAn you help me what is wrong? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 00:43:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB58D1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD60D8FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396C11EB74; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:43:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q080hg4G002731; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:43:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:43:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Marco Beishuizen Message-Id: <20120108014342.34e464f6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20120108000709.d46ae36d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a bootable iso for raid BIOS flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:43:45 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:11:30 +0100 (CET), Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jan 2012, the wise Polytropon wrote: > > > If this is depending on the name "[BOOT]", there are > > two ways to deal with special characters in file names, > > if you need to specify them on the command line: > > > > a) use escape sequences: > > -b \[BOOT\]/Bootable_HardDisk.img > > > > b) use quoting: > > -b "[BOOT]/Bootable_HardDisk.img" > > I used escape sequences and that works. The "no match" error is gone. By using [ and ], the shell tries to expand a regular expression where [BOOT] means "one of the letters B, O, or T; neither B/Bootable_HardDisk.img, O/Bootable_HardDisk.img or T/Bootable_HardDisk.img is present, so the shell fully correctly replies with "no match". (In a similar fashion, * and ? are interpreted by the shell.) > > Also read "man mkisofs" about the boot-related > > options, especially -b, where > > > > If the boot image is not an image of a floppy, you need to add > > one of the options: -hard-disk-boot or -no-emul-boot. If the > > system should not boot off the emulated disk, use -no-boot. > > > > is mentioned. Maybe consider using -G instead of -b? > > I tried the -G option and removed the -hard-disk-boot option and now it > created an iso without errors. The size is still 9MB though. I looked > inside the original iso and the one generated by me but I really can't see > any differences. Does this image boot successfully? If you compare your ISO with the original one, file sizes should be the same for all files; are they? A reason could be that the original one contains some "metadata" that the creating program (which will very probably _not_ be mkisofs as you're using) may have stored there. Things like for example an application ID, copyright information, media name. Maybe the original program did use a different "mechanism" to create the ISO? You can easily add the file sizes inside the original ISO and compare them to your sources (which should be equal) and see where the difference comes from. I think it will be some file system metadata (remember that the ISO-9660 file system occupies "invisible" space within the ISO file). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 00:52:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B47106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward13.mail.yandex.net (forward13.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5BA8FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 859F4141E96 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:52:11 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1325983931; bh=WbHJ0BPhM1Q8G87chnoMgBcb7fK5CpGAgkg+9IJE5Mg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bc6Wnbusy+zRFOPNiT5r/irtqcR1cAz32lEt8UTf88W2r+sE6uKqgsvLQ/VEuuk0G wA0z/exmgI3NH8d5lywnoAb+7DIdCalV6IjbWDnBbkS/Xq5Lv3IvP/TUAD3AYpexqo c6bQjAG1QX807NptekuENLVe/L8WSljB5db4Kt9Q= Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5A35A7E033D; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:52:11 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1325983931; bh=WbHJ0BPhM1Q8G87chnoMgBcb7fK5CpGAgkg+9IJE5Mg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bc6Wnbusy+zRFOPNiT5r/irtqcR1cAz32lEt8UTf88W2r+sE6uKqgsvLQ/VEuuk0G wA0z/exmgI3NH8d5lywnoAb+7DIdCalV6IjbWDnBbkS/Xq5Lv3IvP/TUAD3AYpexqo c6bQjAG1QX807NptekuENLVe/L8WSljB5db4Kt9Q= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id qAViv2GS-qAVijqud; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:52:10 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:52:07 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1574705152.20120108025207@yandex.ru> To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= In-Reply-To: <1663350918.20120108022840@yandex.ru> References: <1663350918.20120108022840@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No buffer space available on igb0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:52:14 -0000 additional info sysctl -a | grep igb "IGB Core Lock","igb0:tx(0)" "igb0:tx(0)","bpf interface lock" <<<<<<<<<<<<< "igb0:tx(0)","system map" "igb0:tx(0)","UMA zone" "IGB Core Lock","igb0:tx(1)" "igb0:tx(1)","system map" "igb0:tx(1)","UMA zone" "IGB Core Lock","igb0:tx(2)" "igb0:tx(2)","bpf interface lock" <<<<<<<<<<<<< "igb0:tx(2)","UMA zone" "IGB Core Lock","igb0:tx(3)" "igb0:tx(3)","UMA zone" "IGB Core Lock","igb0:rx(3)" "igb0:rx(3)","system map" "igb0:rx(3)","UMA zone" "igb0:rx(3)","UMA boot pages" "IGB Core Lock","igb1:tx(0)" "igb1:tx(0)","bpf interface lock" <<<<<<<<<<<<<< "IGB Core Lock","igb1:tx(1)" "IGB Core Lock","igb1:tx(2)" "IGB Core Lock","igb1:tx(3)" "IGB Core Lock","igb1:rx(3)" "igb1:rx(3)","system map" "igb1:rx(3)","UMA zone" hw.igb.rx_process_limit: 100 hw.igb.num_queues: 0 hw.igb.header_split: 0 hw.igb.max_interrupt_rate: 8000 hw.igb.enable_msix: 1 hw.igb.enable_aim: 1 hw.igb.txd: 1024 hw.igb.rxd: 1024 dev.igb.0.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 2.2.5 dev.igb.0.%driver: igb dev.igb.0.%location: slot=0 function=0 dev.igb.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x10c9 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0xa01c class=0x020000 dev.igb.0.%parent: pci1 dev.igb.0.nvm: -1 dev.igb.0.enable_aim: 1 dev.igb.0.fc: 65536003 dev.igb.0.rx_processing_limit: 100 dev.igb.0.link_irq: 2 dev.igb.0.dropped: 0 dev.igb.0.tx_dma_fail: 0 dev.igb.0.rx_overruns: 0 dev.igb.0.watchdog_timeouts: 0 dev.igb.0.device_control: 1086325313 dev.igb.0.rx_control: 67141634 dev.igb.0.interrupt_mask: 4 dev.igb.0.extended_int_mask: 2147483648 dev.igb.0.tx_buf_alloc: 0 dev.igb.0.rx_buf_alloc: 0 dev.igb.0.fc_high_water: 58976 dev.igb.0.fc_low_water: 58960 dev.igb.0.queue0.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.0.queue0.tx_packets: 25405982 dev.igb.0.queue0.rx_packets: 6059861 dev.igb.0.queue0.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.0.queue0.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.0.queue0.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.0.queue1.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.0.queue1.tx_packets: 115976 dev.igb.0.queue1.rx_packets: 6541438 dev.igb.0.queue1.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.0.queue1.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.0.queue1.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.0.queue2.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.0.queue2.tx_packets: 97730 dev.igb.0.queue2.rx_packets: 13955306 dev.igb.0.queue2.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.0.queue2.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.0.queue2.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.0.queue3.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.0.queue3.tx_packets: 402421 dev.igb.0.queue3.rx_packets: 11549500 dev.igb.0.queue3.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.0.queue3.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.0.queue3.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.excess_coll: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.single_coll: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.multiple_coll: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.late_coll: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.collision_count: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.symbol_errors: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.sequence_errors: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.defer_count: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.missed_packets: 4434 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.recv_no_buff: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.recv_undersize: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.recv_fragmented: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.recv_oversize: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.recv_jabber: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.recv_errs: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.crc_errs: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.alignment_errs: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.coll_ext_errs: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.xon_recvd: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.xon_txd: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.xoff_recvd: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.xoff_txd: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_recvd: 38126667 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_recvd: 38106904 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_recvd: 10354 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_recvd: 11 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_64: 510017 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_65_127: 3263713 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_128_255: 870429 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_256_511: 313001 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_512_1023: 459884 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_1024_1522: 32689860 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_octets_recvd: 48232959266 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 8584384267 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_txd: 26021552 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 26021552 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_txd: 34 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_txd: 0 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_64: 9280722 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_65_127: 10937932 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_128_255: 701935 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_256_511: 122992 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_512_1023: 242761 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_1024_1522: 4735210 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tso_txd: 449 dev.igb.0.mac_stats.tso_ctx_fail: 0 dev.igb.0.interrupts.asserts: 50371217 dev.igb.0.interrupts.rx_pkt_timer: 38106551 dev.igb.0.interrupts.rx_abs_timer: 0 dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_pkt_timer: 0 dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_abs_timer: 38106110 dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_queue_empty: 26019865 dev.igb.0.interrupts.tx_queue_min_thresh: 0 dev.igb.0.interrupts.rx_desc_min_thresh: 0 dev.igb.0.interrupts.rx_overrun: 0 dev.igb.0.host.breaker_tx_pkt: 0 dev.igb.0.host.host_tx_pkt_discard: 0 dev.igb.0.host.rx_pkt: 353 dev.igb.0.host.breaker_rx_pkts: 0 dev.igb.0.host.breaker_rx_pkt_drop: 0 dev.igb.0.host.tx_good_pkt: 1687 dev.igb.0.host.breaker_tx_pkt_drop: 0 dev.igb.0.host.rx_good_bytes: 48232960754 dev.igb.0.host.tx_good_bytes: 8584384267 dev.igb.0.host.length_errors: 0 dev.igb.0.host.serdes_violation_pkt: 0 dev.igb.0.host.header_redir_missed: 0 dev.igb.1.%desc: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 2.2.5 dev.igb.1.%driver: igb dev.igb.1.%location: slot=0 function=1 dev.igb.1.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x10c9 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0xa01c class=0x020000 dev.igb.1.%parent: pci1 dev.igb.1.nvm: -1 dev.igb.1.enable_aim: 1 dev.igb.1.fc: 65536003 dev.igb.1.rx_processing_limit: 100 dev.igb.1.link_irq: 1 dev.igb.1.dropped: 0 dev.igb.1.tx_dma_fail: 0 dev.igb.1.rx_overruns: 0 dev.igb.1.watchdog_timeouts: 0 dev.igb.1.device_control: 1086325313 dev.igb.1.rx_control: 67141634 dev.igb.1.interrupt_mask: 4 dev.igb.1.extended_int_mask: 2147483648 dev.igb.1.tx_buf_alloc: 0 dev.igb.1.rx_buf_alloc: 0 dev.igb.1.fc_high_water: 58976 dev.igb.1.fc_low_water: 58960 dev.igb.1.queue0.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.1.queue0.tx_packets: 443 dev.igb.1.queue0.rx_packets: 0 dev.igb.1.queue0.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.1.queue0.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.1.queue0.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.1.queue1.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.1.queue1.tx_packets: 0 dev.igb.1.queue1.rx_packets: 0 dev.igb.1.queue1.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.1.queue1.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.1.queue1.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.1.queue2.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.1.queue2.tx_packets: 0 dev.igb.1.queue2.rx_packets: 0 dev.igb.1.queue2.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.1.queue2.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.1.queue2.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.1.queue3.no_desc_avail: 0 dev.igb.1.queue3.tx_packets: 0 dev.igb.1.queue3.rx_packets: 0 dev.igb.1.queue3.rx_bytes: 0 dev.igb.1.queue3.lro_queued: 0 dev.igb.1.queue3.lro_flushed: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.excess_coll: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.single_coll: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.multiple_coll: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.late_coll: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.collision_count: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.symbol_errors: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.sequence_errors: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.defer_count: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.missed_packets: 1216 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.recv_no_buff: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.recv_undersize: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.recv_fragmented: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.recv_oversize: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.recv_jabber: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.recv_errs: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.crc_errs: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.alignment_errs: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.coll_ext_errs: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.xon_recvd: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.xon_txd: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.xoff_recvd: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.xoff_txd: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.total_pkts_recvd: 2395 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.good_pkts_recvd: 533 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_recvd: 333 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_recvd: 198 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.rx_frames_64: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.rx_frames_65_127: 440 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.rx_frames_128_255: 61 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.rx_frames_256_511: 18 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.rx_frames_512_1023: 14 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.rx_frames_1024_1522: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.good_octets_recvd: 58099 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 1152 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.total_pkts_txd: 18 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 18 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_txd: 18 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_txd: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tx_frames_64: 18 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tx_frames_65_127: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tx_frames_128_255: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tx_frames_256_511: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tx_frames_512_1023: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tx_frames_1024_1522: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tso_txd: 0 dev.igb.1.mac_stats.tso_ctx_fail: 0 dev.igb.1.interrupts.asserts: 84963 dev.igb.1.interrupts.rx_pkt_timer: 533 dev.igb.1.interrupts.rx_abs_timer: 0 dev.igb.1.interrupts.tx_pkt_timer: 0 dev.igb.1.interrupts.tx_abs_timer: 2 dev.igb.1.interrupts.tx_queue_empty: 18 dev.igb.1.interrupts.tx_queue_min_thresh: 0 dev.igb.1.interrupts.rx_desc_min_thresh: 0 dev.igb.1.interrupts.rx_overrun: 0 dev.igb.1.host.breaker_tx_pkt: 0 dev.igb.1.host.host_tx_pkt_discard: 0 dev.igb.1.host.rx_pkt: 0 dev.igb.1.host.breaker_rx_pkts: 0 dev.igb.1.host.breaker_rx_pkt_drop: 0 dev.igb.1.host.tx_good_pkt: 0 dev.igb.1.host.breaker_tx_pkt_drop: 0 dev.igb.1.host.rx_good_bytes: 58099 dev.igb.1.host.tx_good_bytes: 1152 dev.igb.1.host.length_errors: 0 dev.igb.1.host.serdes_violation_pkt: 0 dev.igb.1.host.header_redir_missed: 0 tcpdump -n -i igb0 does not show anything, but netstat shows activiti on interface.... <<<<<<< netstat -W 1 igb0 packets errs idrops bytes packets errs bytes colls 34 0 0 8304 55 0 17570 0 64 0 0 9494 85 0 16490 0 42 0 0 8892 71 0 19024 0 28 0 0 7860 43 0 14152 0 42 0 0 6120 77 0 16656 0 28 0 0 7840 45 0 14358 0 30 0 0 7964 52 0 15052 0 48 0 0 6593 73 0 16041 0 1234 0 0 197017 1235 0 197309 0 18 0 0 7716 20 0 8092 0 1244 0 0 195593 1247 0 196101 0 535 0 0 87732 538 0 88220 0 3171 0 0 498347 3172 0 498639 0 2933 0 0 458011 2934 0 458307 0 3217 0 0 502663 3218 0 502959 0 1248 0 0 198764 1249 0 199056 0 rate is non zero, but total is not changing after time: # vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 6 0 irq15: ata1 234384 11 irq16: ehci0 31717 1 irq23: ehci1 42347 2 cpu0:timer 87098869 4123 irq256: igb0:que 0 27388560 1296 <<<<<< irq257: igb0:que 1 5174048 244 irq258: igb0:que 2 9057555 428 irq259: igb0:que 3 8742551 413 irq260: igb0:link 2 0 irq261: igb1:que 0 19109 0 irq262: igb1:que 1 19109 0 irq263: igb1:que 2 19109 0 irq264: igb1:que 3 19109 0 irq265: igb1:link 1 0 irq266: re0 42311640 2003 cpu1:timer 76091000 3602 cpu3:timer 50328044 2382 cpu2:timer 49857365 2360 Total 356434525 16876 # vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 6 0 irq15: ata1 234384 11 irq16: ehci0 31717 1 irq23: ehci1 42347 2 cpu0:timer 87102293 4123 irq256: igb0:que 0 27388560 1296 <<<<<<<< irq257: igb0:que 1 5174048 244 irq258: igb0:que 2 9057555 428 irq259: igb0:que 3 8742551 413 irq260: igb0:link 2 0 irq261: igb1:que 0 19109 0 irq262: igb1:que 1 19109 0 irq263: igb1:que 2 19109 0 irq264: igb1:que 3 19109 0 irq265: igb1:link 1 0 irq266: re0 42311659 2003 cpu1:timer 76093902 3602 cpu3:timer 50329746 2382 cpu2:timer 49858962 2360 Total 356444169 16876 igb1 was not connected to port. and not connected now. 128 Bucket fails # vmstat -z ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQ FAIL SLEEP UMA Kegs: 128, 0, 154, 26, 154, 0, 0 UMA Zones: 224, 0, 154, 16, 154, 0, 0 UMA Slabs: 284, 0, 2259, 9, 841726, 0, 0 UMA RCntSlabs: 544, 0, 7261, 5, 7261, 0, 0 UMA Hash: 128, 0, 1, 29, 2, 0, 0 16 Bucket: 76, 0, 276, 24, 276, 0, 0 32 Bucket: 140, 0, 204, 20, 204, 0, 0 64 Bucket: 268, 0, 265, 1, 265, 11, 0 128 Bucket: 524, 0, 741, 1, 741,1083, 0 <<< VM OBJECT: 140, 0, 11366, 1934, 5994604, 0, 0 MAP: 140, 0, 7, 49, 7, 0, 0 KMAP ENTRY: 72, 57505, 50, 745, 1713183, 0, 0 MAP ENTRY: 72, 0, 7793, 2012,12863128, 0, 0 fakepg: 72, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 mt_zone: 2060, 0, 276, 3, 276, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 30, 782, 96663, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 291, 927,18907467, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 310, 1517, 46431, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 36, 573, 60425, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 1301, 526, 213583, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 1395, 432, 59533, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 84, 322, 84, 0, 0 16: 16, 0, 2735, 513, 74265, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 7, 558, 250, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 1629, 518, 40681, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 1051, 870, 842329, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 246, 997, 120410, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 990, 6920,51399564, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 126, 778, 218338, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 2, 450, 17, 0, 0 32: 32, 0, 757, 599, 207574, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 599, 286, 2497, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 2887, 417, 4291, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 1534, 1180, 2671140, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 150, 322, 1812, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 768, 235, 2696, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 2582, 309, 127242, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 611, 215, 2406, 0, 0 64: 64, 0, 1383, 564, 4759946, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 5, 145, 8, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 1293, 14787, 1278725, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 3155, 1015, 2697920, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 273, 57, 295, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 122, 178, 500, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 1189, 311, 41526, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 213, 117, 234, 0, 0 128: 128, 0, 614, 166, 24785, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 8, 82, 206, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 586, 419, 87888, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 252, 63, 286, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 2634, 831,19974316, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 293, 187, 461844, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 102, 213, 144518, 0, 0 256: 256, 0, 6, 159, 2281, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 2, 14, 2, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 123, 109, 429, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 24, 8, 46, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 4, 84, 6965, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 641, 111, 2443, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 39, 97, 216781, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 9, 111, 19935, 0, 0 512: 512, 0, 0, 48, 9594, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 1, 7, 1, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 3, 81, 11749, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 27, 173, 771, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 4, 24, 135, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 4, 16, 6, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 45, 99, 42028, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 619, 77, 2414, 0, 0 1024: 1024, 0, 0, 28, 9218, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 2, 6, 8, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 14, 28, 40, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 4, 14, 121, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 1, 3, 1, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 5, 21, 132, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 0, 8, 4, 0, 0 2048: 2048, 0, 203, 11, 254, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 3, 2, 3, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 1, 64, 17467, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 27, 17, 49, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 151, 96, 268392, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 8, 12, 12, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 14, 63, 82051, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0 4096: 4096, 0, 2, 0, 2, 0, 0 Files: 56, 0, 725, 749,16274835, 0, 0 TURNSTILE: 72, 0, 511, 119, 511, 0, 0 umtx pi: 52, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 MAC labels: 20, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 PROC: 708, 0, 147, 103, 268386, 0, 0 THREAD: 728, 0, 348, 162, 3255, 0, 0 SLEEPQUEUE: 48, 0, 511, 197, 511, 0, 0 VMSPACE: 232, 0, 129, 194, 268366, 0, 0 cpuset: 40, 0, 10, 174, 10, 0, 0 audit_record: 824, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 mbuf_packet: 256, 0, 10298, 3782,68354830, 0, 0 mbuf: 256, 0, 2879, 846,187232403, 0, 0 mbuf_cluster: 2048, 262144, 14080, 262, 14080, 0, 0 mbuf_jumbo_page: 4096, 12800, 0, 90, 2215, 0, 0 mbuf_jumbo_9k: 9216, 6400, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 mbuf_jumbo_16k: 16384, 3200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 mbuf_ext_refcnt: 4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 NetGraph items: 36, 65549, 0, 826,32053923, 0, 0 NetGraph data items: 36, 65549, 0, 826,77319539, 0, 0 g_bio: 140, 0, 0, 588, 940679, 0, 0 ttyinq: 152, 0, 300, 116, 615, 0, 0 ttyoutq: 256, 0, 157, 128, 322, 0, 0 ata_request: 204, 0, 0, 247, 235164, 0, 0 ata_composite: 180, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 VNODE: 272, 0, 35476, 1456, 138869, 0, 0 VNODEPOLL: 60, 0, 1, 125, 1, 0, 0 S VFS Cache: 72, 0, 37281, 1462, 1826002, 0, 0 L VFS Cache: 292, 0, 5, 177, 148, 0, 0 NAMEI: 1024, 0, 0, 96,20289151, 0, 0 DIRHASH: 1024, 0, 1151, 601, 2692, 0, 0 NFSMOUNT: 532, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 NFSNODE: 460, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 pipe: 400, 0, 137, 143, 309024, 0, 0 Mountpoints: 648, 0, 7, 29, 7, 0, 0 ksiginfo: 80, 0, 240, 816, 2476, 0, 0 itimer: 220, 0, 0, 36, 1, 0, 0 KNOTE: 72, 0, 168, 362, 857851, 0, 0 socket: 416, 204804, 208, 242, 4508654, 0, 0 unpcb: 172, 204815, 148, 243, 41567, 0, 0 ipq: 32, 8249, 0, 565, 15, 0, 0 udp_inpcb: 252, 204810, 6, 174, 4457268, 0, 0 udpcb: 8, 204827, 6, 806, 4457268, 0, 0 tcp_inpcb: 252, 204810, 31, 194, 1417, 0, 0 tcpcb: 688, 204800, 31, 109, 1417, 0, 0 tcptw: 52, 27792, 0, 648, 878, 0, 0 syncache: 120, 102400, 0, 160, 231, 0, 0 hostcache: 76, 15400, 31, 219, 73, 0, 0 tcpreass: 20, 16393, 0, 507, 42, 0, 0 sackhole: 20, 0, 0, 169, 15, 0, 0 sctp_ep: 924, 25600, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 sctp_asoc: 1500, 40000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 sctp_laddr: 24, 80040, 0, 580, 17, 0, 0 sctp_raddr: 500, 80000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 sctp_chunk: 96, 400000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 sctp_readq: 76, 400000, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 sctp_stream_msg_out: 72, 400044, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 sctp_asconf: 24, 400055, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 sctp_asconf_ack: 24, 400055, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ripcb: 252, 204810, 16, 194, 8130, 0, 0 rtentry: 108, 0, 221, 6403, 6939, 0, 0 IPFW dynamic rule: 108, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 divcb: 252, 204810, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 selfd: 28, 0, 537, 860,30810068, 0, 0 SWAPMETA: 276, 121576, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ip4flow: 40, 99360, 73, 1491, 241936, 0, 0 ip6flow: 64, 99354, 0, 406, 12, 0, 0 FFS inode: 116, 0, 35278, 1187, 62134, 0, 0 FFS1 dinode: 128, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 FFS2 dinode: 256, 0, 35278, 1202, 62134, 0, 0 # netstat -m 13210/4595/17805 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 10298/4044/14342/262144 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 10298/3782 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/90/90/12800 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/6400 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/3200 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 23898K/9596K/33495K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/7/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 calls to protocol drain routines -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 01:06:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413AC106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC838FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so6696616iad.13 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:06:00 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:06:01 -0000 On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > Hit another snag, seems to be related to doxygen. Seems to be going in an > infinite loop of dependency checking. > in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen make rmconfig-recursive then make install clean went back to /usr/ports/x11-wn/xfce4 and make install clean seems to be building again, continuing on... not sure at the moment why it got stuck. :) maybe I should have tried the binary install first! Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 01:15:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015C0106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3BF8FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a83-160-85-125.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.160.85.125]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q081FAP1013859 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:15:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q081F9ml004416; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:15:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:15:09 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120108014342.34e464f6.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120108000709.d46ae36d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120108014342.34e464f6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a bootable iso for raid BIOS flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:15:48 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jan 2012, the wise Polytropon wrote: > Does this image boot successfully? I don't know yet because I've used all my cd-r's :-(. Within a few days I'm expecting some new cd-rw's and I'll let you know how things went. > If you compare your ISO with the original one, file sizes > should be the same for all files; are they? A reason could > be that the original one contains some "metadata" that the > creating program (which will very probably _not_ be mkisofs > as you're using) may have stored there. Things like for > example an application ID, copyright information, media > name. Maybe the original program did use a different > "mechanism" to create the ISO? > > You can easily add the file sizes inside the original > ISO and compare them to your sources (which should be > equal) and see where the difference comes from. I think > it will be some file system metadata (remember that the > ISO-9660 file system occupies "invisible" space within > the ISO file). I compared the original iso from Intel with the one generated by me and I really can't see any differences. My generated one is 9MB, and 8 MB of metadata seems a lot to me, or isn't it?. Don't know how Intel makes his iso's. Regards, Marco -- >From the moment I picked your book up until I put it down I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it. -- Groucho Marx, from "The Book of Insults" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 04:12:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266D81065672 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816238FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q084Bnoh025321 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:11:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:11:49 -0800 Message-ID: <1325995909.53760.11.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q084Bnoh025321 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-yoursite-MailScanner-Watermark: 1326600709.7238@mDbzOHTxyyOpaaugCluPmw Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RELENG_9 and mps driver (LSI 9211-8i) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 04:12:03 -0000 I have three LSI 9211-8i boards in my system: two flashed to T and one R. The Ts appear to work fine but the operating system doesn't see the RAID1 volume on R, but neither did RELENG_8. I am writing to ask how well R is supported, if at all. Or, since this my first case of using R under LSI+FreeBSD, perhaps there is common mistakes I may be making -- the array is stable. The boards (mps1 is the board with the RAID1 array): mps0: port 0xde00-0xdeff mem 0xfd9fc000-0xfd9fffff,0xfd980000-0xfd9bffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci1 mps0: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 mps0: IOCCapabilities: 1285c mps1: port 0x9e00-0x9eff mem 0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff,0xfde80000-0xfdebffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 mps1: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 mps1: IOCCapabilities: 185c mps2: port 0x8e00-0x8eff mem 0xfdcfc000-0xfdcfffff,0xfdc80000-0xfdcbffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6 mps2: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 mps2: IOCCapabilities: 1285c bd3# uname -a FreeBSD bd3 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 7 16:09:10 PST 2012 root@bd3:/sys/amd64/compile/BULLDOZER amd64 (i.e., the OS was csup against RELENG_9 and build today). Other data: bd3# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 7 16:09:10 PST 2012 root@bd3:/sys/amd64/compile/BULLDOZER amd64 CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8150 Eight-Core Processor (4017.99-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x1698220b AMD Features=0x2e500800 AMD Features2=0x1c9bfff,> TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) avail memory = 16508002304 (15743 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 8 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, cfca0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 cpu4: on acpi0 cpu5: on acpi0 cpu6: on acpi0 cpu7: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 mps0: port 0xde00-0xdeff mem 0xfd9fc000-0xfd9fffff,0xfd980000-0xfd 9bffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci1 mps0: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 mps0: IOCCapabilities: 1285c pcib2: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 em0: port 0xcf00-0xcf1f mem 0xfd7c0 000-0xfd7dffff,0xfd700000-0xfd77ffff,0xfd7fc000-0xfd7fffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors em0: Ethernet address: 00:1b:21:c6:d2:a0 pcib3: irq 17 at device 9.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 xhci0: mem 0xfd5f8000-0xfd5fffff irq 17 at d evice 0.0 on pci3 xhci0: 64 byte context size. usbus0 on xhci0 pcib4: irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 ahci0: port 0xaf00-0xaf07,0xae00-0xae03, 0xad00-0xad07,0xac00-0xac03,0xab00-0xab0f mem 0xfcbff000-0xfcbff1ff irq 18 at de vice 0.0 on pci4 ahci0: AHCI v1.00 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 pcib5: irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 mps1: port 0x9e00-0x9eff mem 0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff,0xfde80000-0xfd ebffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 mps1: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 mps1: IOCCapabilities: 185c pcib6: irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 mps2: port 0x8e00-0x8eff mem 0xfdcfc000-0xfdcfffff,0xfdc80000-0xfd cbffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6 mps2: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 mps2: IOCCapabilities: 1285c pcib7: irq 17 at device 13.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 vgapci0: port 0xee00-0xeeff mem 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0 xfdac0000-0xfdadffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci7 hdac0: mem 0xfdafc000-0xfdaffff f irq 18 at device 0.1 on pci7 ahci1: port 0xff00-0xff07,0xfe00-0xfe03,0xfd00 -0xfd07,0xfc00-0xfc03,0xfb00-0xfb0f mem 0xfdfff000-0xfdfff3ff irq 19 at device 1 7.0 on pci0 ahci1: AHCI v1.20 with 4 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported ahcich2: at channel 0 on ahci1 ahcich3: at channel 1 on ahci1 ahcich4: at channel 2 on ahci1 ahcich5: at channel 3 on ahci1 ohci0: mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffefff irq 18 at devic e 18.0 on pci0 usbus1: on ohci0 ehci0: mem 0xfdffd000-0xfdffd0ff irq 17 at d evice 18.2 on pci0 usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 usbus2: on ehci0 ohci1: mem 0xfdffc000-0xfdffcfff irq 18 at devic e 19.0 on pci0 usbus3: on ohci1 ehci1: mem 0xfdffb000-0xfdffb0ff irq 17 at d evice 19.2 on pci0 usbus4: EHCI version 1.0 usbus4: on ehci1 pci0: at device 20.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177, 0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f at device 20.1 on pci0 ata0: at channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: at channel 1 on atapci0 isab0: at device 20.3 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pcib8: at device 20.4 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 ohci2: mem 0xfdffa000-0xfdffafff irq 18 at devic e 20.5 on pci0 usbus5: on ohci2 pcib9: at device 21.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 re0: port 0x6e00-0x6ef f mem 0xfd0ff000-0xfd0fffff,0xfd0f8000-0xfd0fbfff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci9 re0: Using 1 MSI-X message re0: Chip rev. 0x2c800000 re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 miibus0: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX , 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX- master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow re0: Ethernet address: 50:e5:49:45:55:8e pcib10: at device 21.1 on pci0 pci10: on pcib10 xhci1: mem 0xfcff8000-0xfcffffff irq 17 at d evice 0.0 on pci10 xhci1: 64 byte context size. usbus6 on xhci1 pcib11: at device 21.2 on pci0 pci11: on pcib11 ahci2: port 0x3f00-0x3f07,0x3e00-0x3e03, 0x3d00-0x3d07,0x3c00-0x3c03,0x3b00-0x3b0f mem 0xfcdff000-0xfcdff1ff irq 17 at de vice 0.0 on pci11 ahci2: AHCI v1.00 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS ahcich6: at channel 0 on ahci2 ahcich7: at channel 1 on ahci2 ohci3: mem 0xfdff9000-0xfdff9fff irq 18 at devic e 22.0 on pci0 usbus7: on ohci3 ehci2: mem 0xfdff8000-0xfdff80ff irq 17 at d evice 22.2 on pci0 usbus8: EHCI version 1.0 usbus8: on ehci2 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff irq 0,8 on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 on acpi0 Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd5000-0xdafff,0xdb000-0xdbfff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range hwpstate0: on cpu0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hdac0: HDA Codec #0: ATI R6xx HDMI pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus5: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus6: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 usbus7: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus8: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: <0x1b6f> at usbus0 uhub0: <0x1b6f XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 ugen5.1: at usbus5 uhub5: on usbus5 ugen6.1: <0x1b6f> at usbus6 uhub6: <0x1b6f XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus6 ugen7.1: at usbus7 uhub7: on usbus7 ugen8.1: at usbus8 uhub8: on usbus8 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub7: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered uhub1: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered uhub6: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered uhub8: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered uhub4: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered ugen1.2: at usbus1 ukbd0: on usbus1 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: on usbus1 ada0 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 85857MB (175836528 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad8 ada1 at ahcich3 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 57241MB (117231408 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1: Previously was known as ad10 ada2 at ahcich4 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 ada2: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada2: Command Queueing enabled ada2: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada2: Previously was known as ad12 da7 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 7 lun 0 da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da7: 300.000MB/s transfers da7: Command Queueing enabled da7: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da3 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 3 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da3: 300.000MB/s transfers da3: Command Queueing enabled da3: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da0 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da0: 300.000MB/s transfers da0: Command Queueing enabled da0: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da9 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 1 lun 0 da9: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da9: 300.000MB/s transfers da9: Command Queueing enabled da9: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da10 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 2 lun 0 da10: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da10: 300.000MB/s transfers da10: Command Queueing enabled da10: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da8 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 da8: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da8: 300.000MB/s transfers da8: Command Queueing enabled da8: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da11 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 3 lun 0 da11: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da11: 300.000MB/s transfers da11: Command Queueing enabled da11: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da6 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 6 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da6: 300.000MB/s transfers da6: Command Queueing enabled da6: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da4 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 4 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da4: 300.000MB/s transfers da4: Command Queueing enabled da4: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da5 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 5 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da5: 300.000MB/s transfers da5: Command Queueing enabled da5: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da1 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da1: 300.000MB/s transfers da1: Command Queueing enabled da1: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) da2 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da2: 300.000MB/s transfers da2: Command Queueing enabled da2: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 15695275 Hz quality 1000 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/gpt/disk0 [rw]... ZFS filesystem version 5 ZFS storage pool version 28 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 04:52:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543A0106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BAE8FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 04:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20120108045228409 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 04:52:28 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from maple.localnet (unknown [207.55.106.132]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BF274924A2 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [IPv6:2001:1938:266::6f:616b]) by maple.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A48161F12 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B0CCCA8 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q084qJCE095916; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:52:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120107150555.BYL92929@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <20120108003225.dc64798a.freebsd@edvax.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:52:19 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20120108003225.dc64798a.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Sun, 8 Jan 2012 00:32:25 +0100") Message-ID: <8762gm6bjw.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD ver. 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 04:52:29 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:05:55 -0800 (PST), leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net wrote: >> (1) Does anyone know how to get FreeBSD to read the >> motherboard name? This name, on an xw4400, starts with >> "HP" followed by a eleven digits, and is given in Windows >> XP as "Full Computer Name" on the "Computer Name" tab >> of the "System Properties" window. Among other purposes, >> this name is used by Novell network operating system to >> distinguish hosts on a subnet. > > The OS provides the output of dmesg and maybe the > output of pciconf -lv, as well as the sysctl value > dev.acpi.0.%desc which may contain the required > information. However, I'm sure there is a program > in the ports collection that can be used to obtain > that kind of information. > > Try: > > dmesg | grep "HP" > sysctl -a | grep "HP" > pciconf -lv | less > > and see if there's such a number mentioned. Maybe > you can also use acpidump to retrieve that information > from the ACPI datasets. The 'kenv' command seems to have the board name available as 'smbios.system.product'. The 'kenv' command without arguments will show all values, so you can make sure that is the proper variable. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 10:50:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14316106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from budiyt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f47.google.com (mail-qw0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C662B8FC1F for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadb17 with SMTP id b17so506700qad.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:50:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zh6suZlJZT94Hd+QWQdgL7pqU5SEGWRzCl+/O1pAsAo=; b=kwdeyr0p8tKdGzFeNbB0sD3UryuKu3wNyO+RCf3WO0NEMmNLNY8OT/FMsPashIKASM bA0uQYHXA3mtHNf2vwy0yY7j7w5piT2iUZNyVwWZfVpImr1UNhTKmQXqb/hERGWDCdM7 UQQSx9TrAEounNrLZAIuwga3oy39f8v6IE06M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.33.65 with SMTP id g1mr14431438qad.98.1326019827917; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.246.133 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:50:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120108165159.M3704@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120107201823.H3704@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120108165159.M3704@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:50:27 +0700 Message-ID: From: budsz To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW transparent VS dummynet rules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:50:29 -0000 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, budsz wrote: > [..] > =A0> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 keyword instead of an explicit address. = =A0The search terminates if > =A0> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 this rule matches. > =A0> > > =A0> > Note particularly the last sentence. =A0You'll have to do your dum= mynet > =A0> > piping first, if it is to apply also to forwarded packets. > =A0> > > =A0> > (sysctl) > =A0> > =A0 =A0 =A0net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass: 1 > =A0> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 When set, the packet exiting from the dumm= ynet pipe or from > =A0> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ng_ipfw(4) node is not passed though the f= irewall again. =A0Other- > =A0> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 wise, after an action, the packet is reinj= ected into the firewall > =A0> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 at the next rule. > =A0> > > =A0> > It seems that you may have one_pass set to 1. =A0Set to 0, packets= will > =A0> > continue through the ruleset on exit from pipe/s, so to your fwd r= ule. > =A0> > > =A0> > cheers, Ian > =A0> > =A0> Thank you very much, lazy to read ipfw(8) :) > =A0> > =A0> pipe pipe_nr > =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Pass packet to a dummynet ``pipe'' (for b= andwidth limitation, > =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0delay, etc.). =A0See the TRAFFIC SHAPER (= DUMMYNET) CONFIGURATION > =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Section for further information. =A0The s= earch terminates; however, > =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0on exit from the pipe and if the sysctl(8= ) variable > =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass is not set, the p= acket is passed again to > =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the firewall code starting from the next = rule. > =A0> > =A0> > =A0> -- > =A0> budsz > > No problem. =A0However it's considered good form to also copy responses > cc'd back to the two lists this thread appears on, for the archives. > > Not that I need the credit, but it shows that the advice was useful, and > that other list members need not also respond, thinking it unresolved. > > cheers, Ian OK,thank you for reminding me :) TIA --=20 budsz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 10:52:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D4B106566C; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A118E8FC08; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjqM7-00016D-14; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:52:09 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjqLh-00047W-KH; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:51:37 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q08ApbiM010367; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:51:37 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q08Apbkd010366; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:51:37 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 10:51:37 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120108105137.GA10320@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: anybody close to Bristol, UK, wants to give a talk on FreeBSD and numerical analysis to UG students? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:52:17 -0000 Introduction: I'll be teaching computer based modelling to year 1 mechanical engineering students. The unit is based around Matlab, which is not ideal, in my opinion, but is beyond my control. The unit is pretty low level - I have to start from loops and conditional statements, but ultimately I want them to be able to tackle numerical solution of algebraic and diff. equations and a bit of graphics. I want to complement Matlab by several lectures giving students a broader view of numerical computing and related subjects. For example, I'll probably talk about vector vs raster graphics and related software, precision of floating point calculations, intro to latex, importance of standards in software, etc. What I'm looking for: I'd like to have one lecture on FreeBSD and what it can do for numerical analysis. I'm looking for somebody who can come to Bristol on a Tuesday between 31-FEB-2012 and 20-MAR-2012 and give a 50 min lecture from 1400 to 1450 to about 120-150 students. The exact details of the talk are not that important. Some of them would've heard of linux, probably not of FreeBSD. Some of them would've used macs, but unlikely any software beyound MS office. The talk can just raise the students' awareness that numerical analysis tools available via FreeBSD ports are an alternative to Matlab. I'll pay the travel expences (have to double check with the finance office) but cannot pay for the talk itself. If you are interested, or have another idea, please get in touch directly. Thanks Anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 14:55:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D421106566C; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward6.mail.yandex.net (unknown [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202:22cf:30ff:fe6b:6ebc]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D958FC08; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (smtp7.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.55]) by forward6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BDD3011217AC; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:55:38 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1326034538; bh=+3KKySS7yIW1gdfARr2aBs/hy7Od1urpGrAeo9VfGcA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=G/Z+ilsDCzNwg4WM+REUm1ipzhFu+0/toJ/xmTZlKV4iIuW6Sap2X+CpLG9ymflGg KYhmwTREKpBhSo6+OJDO2q6S6BYrcsnQd6PcyiMxeawDf5m3wJ/QTmaDK/2GCXHRPH sAxB5R1Me4DctlsgGkTTBIaktebGCI7qJZli+g4w= Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9233A1580509; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:55:38 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1326034538; bh=+3KKySS7yIW1gdfARr2aBs/hy7Od1urpGrAeo9VfGcA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=G/Z+ilsDCzNwg4WM+REUm1ipzhFu+0/toJ/xmTZlKV4iIuW6Sap2X+CpLG9ymflGg KYhmwTREKpBhSo6+OJDO2q6S6BYrcsnQd6PcyiMxeawDf5m3wJ/QTmaDK/2GCXHRPH sAxB5R1Me4DctlsgGkTTBIaktebGCI7qJZli+g4w= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id tb3eU3YI-tc3SUhOF; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:55:38 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:55:34 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1332691712.20120108165534@yandex.ru> To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= In-Reply-To: <1863129064.20120105223118@yandex.ru> References: <9110154891.20111226214424@yandex.ru> <201112262154.pBQLsxJt038471@mail.r-bonomi.com> <1863129064.20120105223118@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[9]: high load system do not take all CPU time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:55:40 -0000 Also I notice next: in case of overload 'ping localhost' or any IP this router has get timeouts about 50-100ms, pinging any external host on LAN or Internet get normal results: 5ms LAN, 40ms Internet. I do not think this issue related to re0 interface or its driver. This is related to kernel and its structures. -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 15:25:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA0B106566C; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward18.mail.yandex.net (forward18.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C238FC0A; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward18.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1B1871782113; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:25:06 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1326036306; bh=JOXgkqGixz+wRhtTuZHkXaslEPHl3cw5RRQK2xcU+UM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AMe5FsIwSzWT61PGA1vHf/E/ML8A2DwQMr0HAvIF9yAE1vPNKMsoZFeiKnYqIQQrj zEbjhwlnQ6gs8/khV6ilQemcJ/dNXiAUYfJ1FwLDqRbhEc75JRbzPpzwJ8mmO40V5N r3/9y7gM5EzTVTKlzbDy8tvdPkzprqBG1LwnSmos= Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E22F51900194; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:25:05 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1326036306; bh=JOXgkqGixz+wRhtTuZHkXaslEPHl3cw5RRQK2xcU+UM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AMe5FsIwSzWT61PGA1vHf/E/ML8A2DwQMr0HAvIF9yAE1vPNKMsoZFeiKnYqIQQrj zEbjhwlnQ6gs8/khV6ilQemcJ/dNXiAUYfJ1FwLDqRbhEc75JRbzPpzwJ8mmO40V5N r3/9y7gM5EzTVTKlzbDy8tvdPkzprqBG1LwnSmos= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.22]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id P5OORYxX-P5OaEXWb; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:25:05 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:25:02 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <819444292.20120108172502@yandex.ru> To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= In-Reply-To: <1332691712.20120108165534@yandex.ru> References: <9110154891.20111226214424@yandex.ru> <201112262154.pBQLsxJt038471@mail.r-bonomi.com> <1863129064.20120105223118@yandex.ru> <1332691712.20120108165534@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[10]: high load system do not take all CPU time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 15:25:09 -0000 КЕ> Also I notice next: КЕ> in case of overload 'ping localhost' or any IP this router has get КЕ> timeouts about 50-100ms, pinging any external host on LAN or Internet КЕ> get normal results: 5ms LAN, 40ms Internet. КЕ> I do not think this issue related to re0 interface or its driver. КЕ> This is related to kernel and its structures. details: which system queues or buffers can cause such bad results for localhost pinging? # ping 127.0.0.1 PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=122.377 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=53.025 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=36.214 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=85.151 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=105.704 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1.145 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=26.240 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=37.532 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=20.161 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=7.876 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=36.441 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.840 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=45.483 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=29.629 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=0.025 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=86.228 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=141.489 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=118.011 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=14.077 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=0.599 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=0.041 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=59.191 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=22 ttl=64 time=36.222 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=23 ttl=64 time=3.278 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=24 ttl=64 time=153.970 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=25 ttl=64 time=71.832 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=26 ttl=64 time=0.740 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=27 ttl=64 time=22.389 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=28 ttl=64 time=6.637 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=29 ttl=64 time=2.888 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=30 ttl=64 time=27.595 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=31 ttl=64 time=59.914 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=32 ttl=64 time=8.892 ms ^C --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics --- 33 packets transmitted, 33 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.025/43.086/153.970/43.818 ms last pid: 34214; load averages: 4.02, 4.13, 4.38 up 8+20:50:08 17:18:01 276 processes: 6 running, 251 sleeping, 16 waiting, 3 lock CPU 0: 16.5% user, 0.0% nice, 12.2% system, 48.9% interrupt, 22.3% idle CPU 1: 12.2% user, 0.0% nice, 13.7% system, 60.4% interrupt, 13.7% idle CPU 2: 8.6% user, 0.0% nice, 8.6% system, 68.3% interrupt, 14.4% idle CPU 3: 10.8% user, 0.0% nice, 4.3% system, 72.7% interrupt, 12.2% idle Mem: 638M Active, 2804M Inact, 313M Wired, 135M Cache, 112M Buf, 8736K Free Swap: 4096M Total, 16M Used, 4080M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 12 root -72 - 0K 160K *per-i 3 67.7H 95.26% {swi1: netisr 3} 12 root -72 - 0K 160K CPU1 1 46.5H 84.62% {swi1: netisr 1} 12 root -72 - 0K 160K *per-i 2 24.5H 36.57% {swi1: netisr 2} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 0 139.3H 34.81% {idle: cpu0} 12 root -72 - 0K 160K *per-i 3 19.6H 32.57% {swi1: netisr 0} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 1 141.2H 19.48% {idle: cpu1} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU2 2 140.2H 17.43% {idle: cpu2} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU3 3 141.5H 15.92% {idle: cpu3} 12 root -92 - 0K 160K WAIT 0 26.4H 13.09% {irq256: re0} 93929 root 24 0 15392K 5616K select 0 86:57 6.88% snmpd 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 2 599:49 4.83% {ng_queue1} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 2 600:32 4.20% {ng_queue0} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 3 600:57 3.86% {ng_queue3} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 0 600:05 3.76% {ng_queue2} 34145 cacti 27 0 12000K 3096K select 0 0:00 1.22% snmpwalk 34185 cacti 52 0 32256K 16604K nanslp 2 0:00 0.93% php 86746 root 20 0 139M 57632K select 2 17:09 0.29% {mpd5} 86746 root 20 0 139M 57632K select 0 0:00 0.29% {mpd5} 86746 root 20 0 139M 57632K select 2 0:00 0.29% {mpd5} 32865 freeradius 20 -20 151M 123M usem 3 1:31 0.24% {radiusd} 32865 freeradius 20 -20 151M 123M usem 2 1:31 0.24% {radiusd} 32865 freeradius 20 -20 151M 123M usem 0 1:25 0.24% {radiusd} 1 users Load 4.88 4.34 4.45 Jan 8 17:18 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 883556 12112 3211480 38276 159236 count 24 All 1086936 19504 5456924 92620 pages 26 Proc: Interrupts r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt 534 cow 36566 total 1 199 126k 4667 12k 20k 13k 2280 765 zfod 43 ata0 14 157 ozfod 1 ehci0 16 8.2%Sys 62.7%Intr 2.8%User 0.0%Nice 26.3%Idle 20%ozfod 2 ehci1 23 | | | | | | | | | | | daefr 4127 cpu0:timer ====+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>> 826 prcfr 20188 re0 256 155 dtbuf 2434 totfr 4096 cpu1:timer Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 142271 desvn react 4032 cpu3:timer Calls hits % hits % 48240 numvn pdwak 4077 cpu2:timer 12498 12492 100 34644 frevn pdpgs intrn Disks ad0 da0 pass0 320468 wire KB/t 16.85 0.00 0.00 632440 act tps 43 0 0 2879156 inact MB/s 0.70 0.00 0.00 132996 cache %busy 3 0 0 26376 free 114976 buf -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 16:43:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75791065672 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from outbound.icp-osb-irony-out7.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-osb-irony-out7.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0140A8FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:43:57 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EABHHCU98lKav/2dsb2JhbABCrEWBBYFyAQEFOj8QCw0oERQYRLx7iHeCN2MElQiFPzOMXA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,476,1320595200"; d="scan'208";a="66379367" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.148.166.175]) by outbound.icp-osb-irony-out7.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2012 00:43:56 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D9244490; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 03:43:55 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 03:43:55 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net Message-ID: <20120108164355.GA68248@ozzmosis.com> References: <20120107150555.BYL92929@ms5.mc.surewest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120107150555.BYL92929@ms5.mc.surewest.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD ver. 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:43:58 -0000 On Sat 2012-01-07 15:05:55 UTC-0800, leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net (leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net) wrote: > (5) What device driver must be installed for the sound board to be > able to receive a m.i.d.i. over u.s.b. signal? This signal would be > generated by a musician's keyboard, and would control a music > synthesizer application, to be installed. I could find no mention of > this topic in the Handbook. There are USB to MIDI in/out hardware devices available. Last I looked they were selling for about US$25 on eBay. I bought one about two years ago and use it in Ubuntu Linux. I don't think I ever tested if it worked in FreeBSD but I suspect it would. I also have a Casio WK3300 keyboard with USB output. I don't think it was supported by FreeBSD, but Ubuntu Linux (10.04 Lucid) recognised it. The sound card you use is irrelevant as to whether you can use MIDI over USB. In fact MIDI can be used for non-audio applications, for example lighting rigs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 16:59:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212B81065673 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19B78FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q08GxqnQ026878; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:59:53 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-125-39.as13285.net [92.22.125.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q08GxqmJ026866; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:59:52 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1520B33C52; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:59:52 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:59:52 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20120108165952.GC1715@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20120107150555.BYL92929@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <20120108003225.dc64798a.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jousvV0MzM2p6OtC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120108003225.dc64798a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD ver. 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:59:56 -0000 --jousvV0MzM2p6OtC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 12:32:25AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:05:55 -0800 (PST), leeoliveshackelford@surewest.ne= t wrote: > > (1) Does anyone know how to get FreeBSD to read the > > motherboard name? This name, on an xw4400, starts with > > "HP" followed by a eleven digits, and is given in Windows > > XP as "Full Computer Name" on the "Computer Name" tab > > of the "System Properties" window. Among other purposes, > > this name is used by Novell network operating system to > > distinguish hosts on a subnet. >=20 > The OS provides the output of dmesg and maybe the > output of pciconf -lv, as well as the sysctl value > dev.acpi.0.%desc which may contain the required > information. However, I'm sure there is a program > in the ports collection that can be used to obtain > that kind of information. >=20 > Try: >=20 > dmesg | grep "HP" > sysctl -a | grep "HP" > pciconf -lv | less >=20 > and see if there's such a number mentioned. Maybe > you can also use acpidump to retrieve that information > from the ACPI datasets. >=20 >=20 >=20 > > (2) I cannot get the "find" command to locate files > > that I believe were installed at the time of sysinstall.=20 > > If I understand the Handbook correctly, when one runs > > "find" from the "/" directory, it is supposed to inspect > > all directories and subdirectories of all partitions, > > which it is not doing. What concept am I missing here? >=20 > It would be easier to answer if you could provide > the find command line you've been running. :-) >=20 > See "man find" for more information. Basically, > "find / -name -type f" should be sufficient > to access all partitions currently mounted to search > for specified regular files. >=20 >=20 >=20 > > (3) I thought that I would obtain a better understanding > > of the file system by running "man heir." This command > > runs fine under "sh." When I switch to my preferred shell, > > which is "bash," I type, and receive echo on the screen, > > "man hei." As soon as I depress "r," the entire previously > > entered command echos to the screen, starting where the > > "r" should have appeared. In checking the bash manual, it > > says that this response is correct for "control-r." I > > could not find "non-shift-r" to be called out as a command.=20 > > Am I doing something wrong? Is this a hardware bug? Is > > this a software bug? Is there something that needs to be > > defined or undefined in a configuration file? =20 >=20 > No, bash's configuration files provided after install > should be fine. >=20 > However, I think you have a typo. The command you're > intending to run is "man hier" ("hierarchy"). I've > tested both csh and bash here, both allow the command > to be entered without any interruption. When I type > "man hei" followed by Ctrl+R, I get the following > output: "(reverse-i-search)`': man hei". >=20 >=20 >=20 > > (4) Not having very good luck with the "find" command, > > I thought I would try to use the "locate" command.=20 > > To use this command, one must create a database.=20 > > On www.us-webmasters.com, I read that this database > > could be constructed by running the command > > "#usr/libexec/locate.updatedb."=20 >=20 > The required task is usually executed by the system's > "night job" at 3:00 once a week. The script that will > be run is /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate which you > could run manually. It will deal with the correct > call of /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb (instead of > running it as root!). The thing to run is periodic(8): # periodic weekly That will also update other useful stuff. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --jousvV0MzM2p6OtC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk8Jy4cACgkQHduKvUAgeK6F/QCffTG/3/IoDwox5cQ6+M8znDJJ KdAAoJ/HrroM4YJxi+UUQ5DpP1REnY/S =yAAD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jousvV0MzM2p6OtC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 18:12:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF65106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@ftfl.ca) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0838FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so3626596vcb.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:12:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.28.238 with SMTP id e14mr6093175vdh.96.1326045014055; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.187.97 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [129.173.34.203] Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 13:50:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joseph Mingrone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: problem with terminal capabilities when using terminal from within emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:12:56 -0000 >From within emacs, if I invoke a new multi-term buffer with C-c c, the TERM environment variable is set to eterm-color and a TERMCAP variable is also set and everything works fine. However, if I ssh to a remote host from within this buffer, only the TERM variable remains set and the keybindings don't work. If I manually set the TERMCAP variable nothing changes. Is there a way to ssh to a remote host from within a multi-term buffer and have the terminal capabilities work out? I'm running emacs 23.3 on 8-STABLE. Thanks. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key: http://gly.ath.cx/pub_key.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 19:42:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D95D106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278558FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjydF-0005Cm-Cv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:42:17 +0100 Received: from pool-108-35-58-254.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([108.35.58.254]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:42:17 +0100 Received: from rvclayton by pool-108-35-58-254.nycmny.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:42:17 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: rvclayton@verizon.net (R. Clayton) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:42:01 -0500 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <87zkdy6kxi.fsf@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-108-35-58-254.nycmny.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6R0j56wsxA0LHXXOX+0jD4iKc3g= Subject: OpenBSD disk on FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:42:20 -0000 I have a usb external hard drive from a dead OpenBSD x86 system, and I want to mount the drive on $ uname -a FreeBSD AngkorWat 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ fdisk on the FreeBSD system looks like Disk name: da0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 20023 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 321669495 sectors (157065MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 321669432 321669494 da0s4 4 OpenBSD FFS 166 = 321669495 3465 321672959 - 12 unused 0 The OpenBSD fstab is gone, and the backup copy is (of course) on the disk I want to mount. How do I go about mounting this disk on FreeBSD? The following don't work: # mount /dev/da0 mnt mount: /dev/da0 : Invalid argument # mount /dev/da0s4 mnt mount: /dev/da0s4 : Operation not permitted # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 19:51:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E65C106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EA88FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270803CEE6; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:51:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q08JpbDc002413; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:51:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:51:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: rvclayton@verizon.net (R. Clayton) Message-Id: <20120108205137.a0bf2877.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <87zkdy6kxi.fsf@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> References: <87zkdy6kxi.fsf@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD disk on FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:51:40 -0000 On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:42:01 -0500, R. Clayton wrote: > The OpenBSD fstab is gone, and the backup copy is (of course) on the disk I > want to mount. How do I go about mounting this disk on FreeBSD? The following > don't work: > > # mount /dev/da0 mnt > mount: /dev/da0 : Invalid argument > > # mount /dev/da0s4 mnt > mount: /dev/da0s4 : Operation not permitted According to http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html you can address the partitions on that slice (da0s4) like you would access them on FreeBSD. # mount -o ro -t ufs /dev/da0s4a /mnt This will give you the root partition. Other partitions can be mounted separately (or in sequence, after unmounting /mnt), or they can be mounted into the /mnt tree to their original locations, e. g. # mount -o ro -t ufs /dev/da0s4e /mnt/tmp # mount -o ro -t ufs /dev/da0s4f /mnt/var # mount -o ro -t ufs /dev/da0s4g /mnt/usr # mount -o ro -t ufs /dev/da0s4h /mnt/home I would suggest you _first_ mount each partition individually and see from its content what it has been designated to. If you can find a copy of the original /etc/fstab somewhere on one of the partitions, you can use its content to avoid guessing. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 19:57:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9451106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr12.networksolutionsemail.com (omr12.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA348FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr7 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr12.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q08Jvmli025876 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 14:57:48 -0500 Authentication-Results: cm-omr7 smtp.user=racerx@makeworld.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authenticated-UID: racerx@makeworld.com Received: from [50.44.158.56] ([50.44.158.56:55658] helo=[192.168.222.24]) by cm-omr7 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 2A/1D-03964-B35F90F4; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 14:57:48 -0500 To: "=?utf-8?B?ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc=?=" Message-ID: <2A.1D.03964.B35F90F4@cm-omr7> From: "Chris" Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 13:57:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Mounting (read/write) ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:57:49 -0000 Q2FuIHRoZSB1cGNvbWluZyBGcmVlQlNEIDkgbW91bnQgZXh0NCBmaWxlIHN5c3RlbXMgb3V0IG9m IHRoZSBib3g/CgpTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgSFRDLg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 20:11:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49FC106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A92E8FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjz5p-0002M8-11 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:49 +0100 Received: from c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com ([82.209.158.57]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:49 +0100 Received: from mc by c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Cardell Widerkrantz Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:32 +0100 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 34 Message-ID: <86wr92kl8r.fsf@kropotkin.hack.org> References: <201112302138.pBULcZfw076474@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <4EFF94CA.3050304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101064247.3e8b0b56@scorpio> <4F00580D.1060208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101091420.117aa8f3@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ra8MQN7E2yh0dPqyieMmNpEelPo= Subject: Re: sour grapes .. was FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:11:50 -0000 "C. P. Ghost" , 2012-01-01 20:30 (+0100): > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:41 PM, doug wrote: >> That said, FreeBSD has a giant disadvantage in the desktop world. In trying >> to find if there will be any sort for my current laptop I came across a >> comment from Robert Noland saying that Xorg is becoming more and more Linux >> centric. That is a problem the FreeBSD project can not overcome. > > Did he mean frameworks like evdev(4) and so? > > http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/evdev.4.html That man-page really doesn't explain what has changed. The new thing is that X.org has done away with hald. > Stuff like this really ought to be backported to FreeBSD, either > directly or by providing more Linuxisms on our side. It also seems rather easy, considering we already have devd which could be used to feed evdev with information about input devices. > There's no /technical/ reason why it can't be done. True. He probably also meant stuff like Kernel mode-setting (KMS) and GEM. All this is being worked on in FreeBSD as well: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU -- http://hack.org/mc/ Warning! Plain text e-mail, please. HTML e-mail deleted unread. OpenPGP: 673B 563E 3C78 1BA0 6525 2344 B22E 2C10 E4C9 2FA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 22:00:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C1D106567A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282938FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E1A1EACC; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q08M05w2002768; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:00:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:00:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: rvclayton@verizon.net (R. Clayton) Message-Id: <20120108230005.f5856dd1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120108211338.AD33F5DC4@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> References: <87zkdy6kxi.fsf@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> <20120108205137.a0bf2877.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120108211338.AD33F5DC4@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD disk on FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:00:08 -0000 On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:13:38 -0500 (EST), R. Clayton wrote: > Thanks for your reply to my message. > > you can address the partitions on that slice (da0s4) like you would access them > on FreeBSD. > > "mount /dev/da0s4a" didn't work. However, looking in dmesg I saw > > WARNING: R/W mount of /mnt/backups denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck If you're intending to copy data FROM the disk, i. e. you want to _recover_ data, do _not_ mount something R/W (because you don't have to). Always use "-o ro", at least in early stages. The denial of the mount is justified due to file system errors which are correctly detected (and then corrected by fsck). > After running "fsck -t ufs /dev/da0s4", "mount /dev/da0s4a" still didn't > work, but > > # mount /dev/da0s4 mnt > > did work: > > # cat mnt/angkor-wat/etc/fstab > # fs-spec mount-point type options frequency pass-no > /dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1 > /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 > /dev/wd0d /tmp ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 > /dev/wd0g /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2 > /dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 > /dev/sd0a /mnt/backups ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 > /dev/sd0d /mnt/storage ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 > /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > # > > However, I can only mount the sd0a (OpenBSD) partition; [...] That is the root partition /, and suffixes d, e, g, h should be available. > [...] the sd0d partition is > nowhere to be found: > > $ sudo fsck -t ufs /dev/da0s4d > ** /dev/da0s4d > Cannot find file system superblock > ioctl (GCINFO): Inappropriate ioctl for device > fsck_ufs: /dev/da0s4d: can't read disk label > > $ > > On the other hand, > > $ sudo fsck -t ufs /dev/da0s4a > ** /dev/da0s4a > Cannot find file system superblock > ioctl (GCINFO): Inappropriate ioctl for device > fsck_ufs: /dev/da0s4a: can't read disk label > > $ > > so maybe the partition names are wrong. Can you obtain partitioning information via bsdlabel (disklabel) for the s4 slice to check if FreeBSD can identify the other partitions properly. If you visit the mailing list archives, you will find hints to procedures and software to do a deeper analysis of the structures that need to be accessed, such as disk labels, file system data and other stuff. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 22:13:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E2F1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvclayton@verizon.net) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB378FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from UlanBator.myhome.westell.com ([unknown] [108.35.58.254]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LXI00H5E0AQUHX0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 15:13:39 -0600 (CST) Received: by UlanBator.myhome.westell.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD33F5DC4; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:13:38 -0500 (EST) From: rvclayton@verizon.net (R. Clayton) To: Polytropon In-reply-to: <20120108205137.a0bf2877.freebsd@edvax.de> (message from Polytropon on Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:51:37 +0100) References: <87zkdy6kxi.fsf@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> <20120108205137.a0bf2877.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-id: <20120108211338.AD33F5DC4@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:13:38 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD disk on FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:13:53 -0000 Thanks for your reply to my message. you can address the partitions on that slice (da0s4) like you would access them on FreeBSD. "mount /dev/da0s4a" didn't work. However, looking in dmesg I saw WARNING: R/W mount of /mnt/backups denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck After running "fsck -t ufs /dev/da0s4", "mount /dev/da0s4a" still didn't work, but # mount /dev/da0s4 mnt did work: # cat mnt/angkor-wat/etc/fstab # fs-spec mount-point type options frequency pass-no /dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 /dev/wd0d /tmp ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 /dev/wd0g /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2 /dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 /dev/sd0a /mnt/backups ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 /dev/sd0d /mnt/storage ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 /dev/cd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 # However, I can only mount the sd0a (OpenBSD) partition; the sd0d partition is nowhere to be found: $ sudo fsck -t ufs /dev/da0s4d ** /dev/da0s4d Cannot find file system superblock ioctl (GCINFO): Inappropriate ioctl for device fsck_ufs: /dev/da0s4d: can't read disk label $ On the other hand, $ sudo fsck -t ufs /dev/da0s4a ** /dev/da0s4a Cannot find file system superblock ioctl (GCINFO): Inappropriate ioctl for device fsck_ufs: /dev/da0s4a: can't read disk label $ so maybe the partition names are wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 23:22:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82932106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B2B8FC18 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pippin.unsane.co.uk (pippin.unsane.co.uk [10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q08NMagI038772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:22:36 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4F0A253C.9050205@unsane.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:22:36 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1325995909.53760.11.camel@btw.pki2.com> In-Reply-To: <1325995909.53760.11.camel@btw.pki2.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RELENG_9 and mps driver (LSI 9211-8i) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:22:39 -0000 On 08/01/2012 04:11, Dennis Glatting wrote: > I have three LSI 9211-8i boards in my system: two flashed to T and one > R. The Ts appear to work fine but the operating system doesn't see the > RAID1 volume on R, but neither did RELENG_8. > > I am writing to ask how well R is supported, if at all. Or, since this > my first case of using R under LSI+FreeBSD, perhaps there is common > mistakes I may be making -- the array is stable. I dont have one handy to test but the manpage says in the BUGS section BUGS This driver is still in development, it has only been tested on the amd64 architecture and has some known shortcomings: o No IR (Integrated RAID) support. o No userland utility support (e.g. mptutil(8).) o Sometimes the driver gets into a state where devices arrive and depart multiple times, without user intervention. o The error recovery code isn't complete. This along with this thread http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-4505.html Indicates the R isnt fully supported, from what i can gather its fine as JBOD so you can use zfs or one of the geom software RAIDs though. Vince > The boards (mps1 is the board with the RAID1 array): > > mps0: port 0xde00-0xdeff mem > 0xfd9fc000-0xfd9fffff,0xfd980000-0xfd9bffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci1 > mps0: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > mps0: IOCCapabilities: > 1285c > mps1: port 0x9e00-0x9eff mem > 0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff,0xfde80000-0xfdebffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 > mps1: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > mps1: IOCCapabilities: > 185c > mps2: port 0x8e00-0x8eff mem > 0xfdcfc000-0xfdcfffff,0xfdc80000-0xfdcbffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6 > mps2: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > mps2: IOCCapabilities: > 1285c > > > > bd3# uname -a > FreeBSD bd3 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 7 16:09:10 PST > 2012 root@bd3:/sys/amd64/compile/BULLDOZER amd64 > > (i.e., the OS was csup against RELENG_9 and build today). > > > Other data: > > > bd3# dmesg > Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 7 16:09:10 PST 2012 > root@bd3:/sys/amd64/compile/BULLDOZER amd64 > CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8150 Eight-Core Processor (4017.99-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 > Stepping = 2 > > Features=0x178bfbff MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT> > > Features2=0x1698220b XSAVE,AVX> > AMD Features=0x2e500800 > AMD > Features2=0x1c9bfff BS,XOP,SKINIT,WDT,LWP,FMA4,NodeId,Topology,,> > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) > avail memory = 16508002304 (15743 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 8 core(s) > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 > cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 > cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 > cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000, cfca0000 (3) failed > Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 > acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > cpu2: on acpi0 > cpu3: on acpi0 > cpu4: on acpi0 > cpu5: on acpi0 > cpu6: on acpi0 > cpu7: on acpi0 > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) > pcib1: irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > mps0: port 0xde00-0xdeff mem > 0xfd9fc000-0xfd9fffff,0xfd980000-0xfd > 9bffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci1 > mps0: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > mps0: IOCCapabilities: > 1285c tReplay,HostDisc> > pcib2: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib2 > em0: port 0xcf00-0xcf1f mem > 0xfd7c0 > 000-0xfd7dffff,0xfd700000-0xfd77ffff,0xfd7fc000-0xfd7fffff irq 16 at > device 0.0 > on pci2 > em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors > em0: Ethernet address: 00:1b:21:c6:d2:a0 > pcib3: irq 17 at device 9.0 on pci0 > pci3: on pcib3 > xhci0: mem 0xfd5f8000-0xfd5fffff irq > 17 at d > evice 0.0 on pci3 > xhci0: 64 byte context size. > usbus0 on xhci0 > pcib4: irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 > pci4: on pcib4 > ahci0: port > 0xaf00-0xaf07,0xae00-0xae03, > 0xad00-0xad07,0xac00-0xac03,0xab00-0xab0f mem 0xfcbff000-0xfcbff1ff irq > 18 at de > vice 0.0 on pci4 > ahci0: AHCI v1.00 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS > ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 > ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 > pcib5: irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 > pci5: on pcib5 > mps1: port 0x9e00-0x9eff mem > 0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff,0xfde80000-0xfd > ebffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 > mps1: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > mps1: IOCCapabilities: > 185c > pcib6: irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 > pci6: on pcib6 > mps2: port 0x8e00-0x8eff mem > 0xfdcfc000-0xfdcfffff,0xfdc80000-0xfd > cbffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6 > mps2: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > mps2: IOCCapabilities: > 1285c tReplay,HostDisc> > pcib7: irq 17 at device 13.0 on pci0 > pci7: on pcib7 > vgapci0: port 0xee00-0xeeff mem > 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0 > xfdac0000-0xfdadffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci7 > hdac0: mem > 0xfdafc000-0xfdaffff > f irq 18 at device 0.1 on pci7 > ahci1: port > 0xff00-0xff07,0xfe00-0xfe03,0xfd00 > -0xfd07,0xfc00-0xfc03,0xfb00-0xfb0f mem 0xfdfff000-0xfdfff3ff irq 19 at > device 1 > 7.0 on pci0 > ahci1: AHCI v1.20 with 4 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported > ahcich2: at channel 0 on ahci1 > ahcich3: at channel 1 on ahci1 > ahcich4: at channel 2 on ahci1 > ahcich5: at channel 3 on ahci1 > ohci0: mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffefff irq 18 > at devic > e 18.0 on pci0 > usbus1: on ohci0 > ehci0: mem 0xfdffd000-0xfdffd0ff irq > 17 at d > evice 18.2 on pci0 > usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 > usbus2: on ehci0 > ohci1: mem 0xfdffc000-0xfdffcfff irq 18 > at devic > e 19.0 on pci0 > usbus3: on ohci1 > ehci1: mem 0xfdffb000-0xfdffb0ff irq > 17 at d > evice 19.2 on pci0 > usbus4: EHCI version 1.0 > usbus4: on ehci1 > pci0: at device 20.0 (no driver attached) > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177, > 0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f at device 20.1 on pci0 > ata0: at channel 0 on atapci0 > ata1: at channel 1 on atapci0 > isab0: at device 20.3 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > pcib8: at device 20.4 on pci0 > pci8: on pcib8 > ohci2: mem 0xfdffa000-0xfdffafff irq 18 > at devic > e 20.5 on pci0 > usbus5: on ohci2 > pcib9: at device 21.0 on pci0 > pci9: on pcib9 > re0: port > 0x6e00-0x6ef > f mem 0xfd0ff000-0xfd0fffff,0xfd0f8000-0xfd0fbfff irq 17 at device 0.0 > on pci9 > re0: Using 1 MSI-X message > re0: Chip rev. 0x2c800000 > re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 > miibus0: on re0 > rgephy0: PHY 1 on > miibus0 > rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, > 100baseTX-FDX > , 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, > 1000baseT-FDX- > master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow > re0: Ethernet address: 50:e5:49:45:55:8e > pcib10: at device 21.1 on pci0 > pci10: on pcib10 > xhci1: mem 0xfcff8000-0xfcffffff irq > 17 at d > evice 0.0 on pci10 > xhci1: 64 byte context size. > usbus6 on xhci1 > pcib11: at device 21.2 on pci0 > pci11: on pcib11 > ahci2: port > 0x3f00-0x3f07,0x3e00-0x3e03, > 0x3d00-0x3d07,0x3c00-0x3c03,0x3b00-0x3b0f mem 0xfcdff000-0xfcdff1ff irq > 17 at de > vice 0.0 on pci11 > ahci2: AHCI v1.00 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS > ahcich6: at channel 0 on ahci2 > ahcich7: at channel 1 on ahci2 > ohci3: mem 0xfdff9000-0xfdff9fff irq 18 > at devic > e 22.0 on pci0 > usbus7: on ohci3 > ehci2: mem 0xfdff8000-0xfdff80ff irq > 17 at d > evice 22.2 on pci0 > usbus8: EHCI version 1.0 > usbus8: on ehci2 > attimer0: port 0x40-0x43 on acpi0 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 > hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff irq 0,8 > on acpi0 > Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 > atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 on acpi0 > Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 > orm0: at iomem > 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd5000-0xdafff,0xdb000-0xdbfff > on isa0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on > isa0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range > hwpstate0: on cpu0 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > hdac0: HDA Codec #0: ATI R6xx HDMI > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 > usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > usbus5: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus6: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 > usbus7: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus8: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > ugen0.1: <0x1b6f> at usbus0 > uhub0: <0x1b6f XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on > usbus0 > ugen1.1: at usbus1 > uhub1: on usbus1 > ugen2.1: at usbus2 > uhub2: on usbus2 > ugen3.1: at usbus3 > uhub3: on usbus3 > ugen4.1: at usbus4 > uhub4: on usbus4 > ugen5.1: at usbus5 > uhub5: on usbus5 > ugen6.1: <0x1b6f> at usbus6 > uhub6: <0x1b6f XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on > usbus6 > ugen7.1: at usbus7 > uhub7: on usbus7 > ugen8.1: at usbus8 > uhub8: on usbus8 > uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub7: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > uhub1: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > uhub6: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > uhub8: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > uhub4: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > ugen1.2: at usbus1 > ukbd0: > on usbus1 > kbd2 at ukbd0 > uhid0: > on usbus1 > ada0 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device > ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: Command Queueing enabled > ada0: 85857MB (175836528 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada0: Previously was known as ad8 > ada1 at ahcich3 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device > ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > ada1: 57241MB (117231408 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada1: Previously was known as ad10 > ada2 at ahcich4 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 > ada2: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device > ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada2: Command Queueing enabled > ada2: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada2: Previously was known as ad12 > da7 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 7 lun 0 > da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da7: 300.000MB/s transfers > da7: Command Queueing enabled > da7: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da3 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 3 lun 0 > da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da3: 300.000MB/s transfers > da3: Command Queueing enabled > da3: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da0 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da0: 300.000MB/s transfers > da0: Command Queueing enabled > da0: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da9 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 1 lun 0 > da9: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da9: 300.000MB/s transfers > da9: Command Queueing enabled > da9: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da10 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 2 lun 0 > da10: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da10: 300.000MB/s transfers > da10: Command Queueing enabled > da10: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da8 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 > da8: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da8: 300.000MB/s transfers > da8: Command Queueing enabled > da8: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da11 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 3 lun 0 > da11: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da11: 300.000MB/s transfers > da11: Command Queueing enabled > da11: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da6 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 6 lun 0 > da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da6: 300.000MB/s transfers > da6: Command Queueing enabled > da6: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da4 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 4 lun 0 > da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da4: 300.000MB/s transfers > da4: Command Queueing enabled > da4: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da5 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 5 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da5: 300.000MB/s transfers > da5: Command Queueing enabled > da5: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da1 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da1: 300.000MB/s transfers > da1: Command Queueing enabled > da1: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > da2 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 2 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > da2: 300.000MB/s transfers > da2: Command Queueing enabled > da2: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! > Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 15695275 Hz quality 1000 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/gpt/disk0 [rw]... > ZFS filesystem version 5 > ZFS storage pool version 28 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to 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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120108-1, 01/08/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: How To Enable ls Color? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:09:07 -0000 I've installed 9.0-RC3 amd64. I'm trying to enable color output for ls. I've issued the basic 'ls -Gla' but output is not colored. Yet if I can get colorized output by providing color codes (echo ^[[34mhello^[[37m produces a blue "hello") at the command line so I know my terminal is capable. Is there some other secret? This is a new install and I'm just trying to set things up. Thanks, Drew -- Like card tricks? Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse to learn card magic secrets for free! http://alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 00:14:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCF3106567E for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE808FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916AD1E14E; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:14:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q090E8Uj003294; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:14:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:14:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Drew Tomlinson Message-Id: <20120109011408.a52e33de.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F0A2F01.9020100@mykitchentable.net> References: <4F0A2F01.9020100@mykitchentable.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How To Enable ls Color? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:14:11 -0000 On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:04:17 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I've installed 9.0-RC3 amd64. I'm trying to enable color output for > ls. I've issued the basic 'ls -Gla' but output is not colored. Yet if > I can get colorized output by providing color codes (echo > ^[[34mhello^[[37m produces a blue "hello") at the command line so I know > my terminal is capable. > > Is there some other secret? This is a new install and I'm just trying > to set things up. Put setenv LSCOLORS ExGxdxdxCxDxDxBxBxegeg in the csh's initialisation file (typically ~/.cshrc for local use, /etc/csh.cshrc for global effect) and maybe setup an alias: alias ls 'ls -FG' alias ll 'ls -laFG' However, ls should provide colored output even if you don't set the $LSCOLORS variable. It should work with the default terminal emulation (cons25 or cons25l1). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 00:15:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC561065672 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969498FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so8199021iad.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0eXw8y8IvwhNpmskshcYZj6OM65HP43fHfBmSro1eE8=; b=ZItPT5fgTMXP3KdOQAOkBmUOyiiim7pTzlUOPA/65JbrighXjNuCpsWLesPK44B8wy xRV6FGlWL8ZS1VKA8G6fjMEmTcnYLyuBks2bgLeeXkJ9hzzcO1DoZtXZO7hapnW9frf5 u5VvoFJotve7aqg+skUBgvxV5hBZI3TLxXYNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.145.136 with SMTP id f8mr13735361icv.3.1326068126942; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.31.65 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:15:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2A.1D.03964.B35F90F4@cm-omr7> References: <2A.1D.03964.B35F90F4@cm-omr7> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:15:26 -0800 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Mounting (read/write) ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:15:28 -0000 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Chris wrote: > Can the upcoming FreeBSD 9 mount ext4 file systems out of the box? > > Trying USB external disk that has ext4 partition /dev/da0s1 and NTFS partition /dev/da0s2, at the moment ext4 doesn't appear to work 'out of the box' - or my mount command is boo-boo [root@p00ntang /usr/home/waitman]# uname -a FreeBSD p00ntang 9.0-RC3 FreeBSD 9.0-RC3 #0: Sun Dec 4 08:01:02 UTC 2011 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 [root@p00ntang /usr/home/waitman]# mount -t ext2fs -o ro /dev/da0s1 /mnt/linux mount: /dev/da0s1 : Invalid argument da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 476940MB (976773167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) WARNING: mount of da0s1 denied due to unsupported optional features [root@p00ntang /usr/home/waitman]# mount /dev/ada0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0s2 on /mnt/music (ntfs, local) checking to see, maybe need kernel support for ext compiled in (which doesn't sound so much "out of the box") Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 00:19:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E004B106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD4B8FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.237.120] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rk2xe-0006H7-DV; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:19:38 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Drew Tomlinson" , Polytropon References: <4F0A2F01.9020100@mykitchentable.net> <20120109011408.a52e33de.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:19:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20120109011408.a52e33de.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14274/Sun Jan 8 23:24:57 2012) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How To Enable ls Color? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:19:41 -0000 Am 09.01.2012, 01:14 Uhr, schrieb Polytropon : > On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:04:17 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> I've installed 9.0-RC3 amd64. I'm trying to enable color output for >> ls. I've issued the basic 'ls -Gla' but output is not colored. Yet if >> I can get colorized output by providing color codes (echo >> ^[[34mhello^[[37m produces a blue "hello") at the command line so I know >> my terminal is capable. >> >> Is there some other secret? This is a new install and I'm just trying >> to set things up. > > Put > > setenv LSCOLORS ExGxdxdxCxDxDxBxBxegeg > > in the csh's initialisation file (typically ~/.cshrc > for local use, /etc/csh.cshrc for global effect) > and maybe setup an alias: > > alias ls 'ls -FG' > alias ll 'ls -laFG' > > However, ls should provide colored output even > if you don't set the $LSCOLORS variable. It > should work with the default terminal emulation > (cons25 or cons25l1). > > > setenv TERM vt220-color setenv CLICOLOR for me to work with my ssh client. No LSCOLORS. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 01:15:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB763106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-announce@chthonic.com) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82398FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (cpe-66-65-69-148.nyc.res.rr.com [66.65.69.148]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 383B52E2D4 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:57:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:58:18 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120109005818.GB80256@whisperer.chthonixia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Error in building documentation from source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:15:54 -0000 Greetings... I've some sort of image error in building the docs from source. I've copied it below, and wonder how it might be fixed? Sometimes, the issue causes many runs of make in the directory /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 before all errors are exhausted and other times (like the most recent) only one or two errors occur. *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> articles/building-products (all) /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER -dDELAYSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox -sOutputFile=/dev/null /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.ps > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps 2>&1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. Followed by: ===> articles/building-products (all) /usr/bin/perl /usr/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -offset 100 100 /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps | /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4 -dEPSCrop -r100x100 -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pnm -sOutputFile=- -g`/usr/bin/perl /usr/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -geom 100 100 /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps` - | /usr/local/bin/pnmtopng > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png Error: no BoundingBox found. Error: no BoundingBox found. pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. For both images in the /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/ directory, the result displayed in my browser is an image that contains this text: The image "file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png" cannot be displayed because it contains errors. A similar condition exists for other image directories: file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom/striping.png All images in: file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/ file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum/ file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/ Unless someone here knows the fix, I think that a bug report should go to the doc project mailing list; is that correct? Regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 01:17:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC34106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokomull@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CB18FC1E for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdt14 with SMTP id dt14so1030128wgb.1 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:17:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eMj4zueYgiy3Khn2jU/95Wh66fuVVGv+q9tWaD+F4uY=; b=BJH2Zn78U5HhcFrfPTV/jAwMD7P16SMR/ct8vp+3yPvbeZkuduZpdivMzWB1HCTUJq MnPPe0xK6/86tUtmu6a26ohvl1xLZiokdYVtdNLLJ+lZXaCzkOJxv1747yrWmoZATNnK ThycO22VZNW25iGuW1W6+pcs2jV4GFq0fy4XA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.101.3 with SMTP id fc3mr1409555wib.22.1326071851040; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.156.65 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:17:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F08684C.2070809@mykitchentable.net> References: <4F08684C.2070809@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:17:30 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Mullins To: Drew Tomlinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Root Won't Mount - Unknown Filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:17:34 -0000 On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Drew Tomlinson wr= ote: > I'm attempting a new install of 9.0-RC3 amd64. =A0My system has 4 500 GB > drives. =A0Using this tutorial as a guide: > > http://www.aisecure.net/2011/11/28/root-zfs-freebsd9/ When I built my ZFS-root system, I did most of these things, except I had a slightly different setup for the root filesystem itself. What I did is akin to: # zpool import -o altroot=3D/target -o cachefile=3D/tmp/zpool.cache zroot # zfs set mountpoint=3D/ zroot # cp -a /tmp/zpool.cache /target/boot/zfs/zpool.cache I did not manually set mountpoints for anything but the root filesystem. It sounds like manually-set mountpoints are the way most people do it, but you can try to clear the mountpoints by doing: # zfs inherit mountpoint zroot/fs for each filesystem in your root pool. > I created a boot and a freebsd-zfs partition on each drive. =A0Then I cre= ated > a raid1z pool using all 4 drives. =A0I followed the rest of the tutorial > exactly and ensured that I copied the zpool.cache to boot/zfs. > > When I try to boot my new system, it all goes fine up until it's time to > mount zfs:zroot. =A0It fails with an "error 2" "unknown filesystem" error= . =A0I > don't know if this means anything but at the mountfrom prompt, the system > will not accept any keyboard input. =A0Same keyboard works fine when boot= ed > into LiveCD. I had that same problem with mine for a while, and it turned out that importing with the "altroot" option implies "cachefile=3Dnone"; until I realized I needed to also specify "cachefile=3D/some/path", I had accidentally ended up with a /boot/zpool.cache that didn't actually reference any zpools. > Unfortunately because I can't figure out how to get a LiveCD type > environment with sshd running, I can't copy and paste exact error message= s > or command outputs. I was using PXE/NFS booting to install this machine, so unfortunately I can't help you here. > I've searched and the two things that seem to be important are that there= 's > a zpool.cache file and that the zfs partitions are correct. =A0A 'gpart s= how > -l' shows my partitions something close to this: > > 34 =A0 =A0ada0 =A0 =A0GPT (456G) > 34 =A0 =A0128 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 null (128K) > 162 =A0 2 =A0 =A0 =A0 disk0 (456G) > > What have I done wrong and what do I need to do to get my zfs:zroot pool > mounted as root? It sounds like you're almost there! My guess is that the cache file is what is missing/incorrect. Reading over some man pages, make sure you don't do a "zpool export" before you copy the cache file; exporting the array removes it from the cache and/or deletes the cache file entirely. If you end up with a LiveCD that lets you copy these things, it might help to see # zpool list -o name,altroot,cachefile # zpool status # zfs list -o name,mountpoint,mounted Hope some of this helps. -- Matt Mullins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 01:31:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200F8106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mokomull@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A237C8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr1 with SMTP id hr1so3517304wib.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:31:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qL7aSQlG1L91pf1FwKW643qcY2717UPJXALNqUcoqEM=; b=nzQp+n4gf01Kozj+XcpOc1o7wpmKOmcEafE1/b9pD7/+6h+0HjOFcPDQqVHBtHegRq KMTWSQTWgcp7LVbqQ3Q56E7ah40xr/ShviYU9N4+LrczYwo4CGov/m3rj6IHKWigZ83U LEaxcjlWiXFca2kAvnmq7V7dC+folajZRGDXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.98.193 with SMTP id ek1mr1675576wib.1.1326072684560; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.156.65 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:31:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F088283.7070407@mykitchentable.net> References: <4F08684C.2070809@mykitchentable.net> <4F088283.7070407@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 17:31:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Mullins To: Drew Tomlinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Mark Felder , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: ZFS Root Won't Mount - Unknown Filesystem -- SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:31:26 -0000 Whoops, I missed this message before posting my reply a few minutes ago. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Drew Tomlinson wr= ote: > Yes, although I've read that 'zfs set mountpoint=3D/ zroot' is acceptable= as > well. =A0I set mine to "/" after trying to import pool with '-o altroot= =3D/mnt' > in LiveCD. =A0When mountpoint was "legacy", altroot didn't work right. > =A0Opinions on "/" vs. "legacy"? Most of the FreeBSD guides seem to think "legacy" is the way to go, but I much prefer "/" myself. The main difference is with "legacy", one sets a mountpoint option on each filesystem under it (which does, indeed, undermine the altroot facility), whereas "/" lets the other filesystems inherit their mountpoint from their path in the zpool. "/" seems to be a little closer to its Solaris usage, which is still the majority of the documentation you'll find on ZFS on the internet (and even in the man pages distributed with FreeBSD). -- Matt Mullins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 01:35:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F8106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936658FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA7D02841D; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:35:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4F0A447B.8080905@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:35:55 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111204 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1251?Q?=CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2_=C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9?= References: <364237998.20120106233952@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <364237998.20120106233952@yandex.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to force 'device' sources to not compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:35:57 -0000 On 01/06/2012 03:39 PM, Коньков Евгений wrote: > I have errors while compile kernel > > ===> et (all) > cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -g -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-sse -mno-mmx -msoft-float -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -c /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c: In function 'et_dma_alloc': > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:782: error: 'ET_RING_ALIGN' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:782: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:782: error: for each function it appears in.) > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:790: error: 'ET_STATUS_ALIGN' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:845: error: 'struct et_softc' has no member named 'sc_rx_mini_tag' > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:854: error: 'struct et_softc' has no member named 'sc_rx_tag' > /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:864: error: 'struct et_softc' has no member named 'sc_tx_tag' > > how to disable 'et' from compiling? This error is from the kernel build process attempting to build the code for a kernel module. Define either MODULES_OVERRIDE or WITHOUT_MODULES as detailed in make.conf(5) to avoid building the if_et module. Note that the syntax of the MODULES_OVERRIDE and WITHOUT_MODULES variables consists of a space-delimited list of directory names found under sys/modules/ and not the canonical module names as found in /boot/kernel/, so some footwork is necessary. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 02:07:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73CD106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8798A8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 02:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-98-228-136-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net [98.228.136.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q091b2ki022327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:37:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hemi@puresimplicity.net) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at just.puresimplicity.net Message-ID: <4F0A44BB.2050607@puresimplicity.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:36:59 -0600 From: Josh Tolbert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F0A2F01.9020100@mykitchentable.net> <20120109011408.a52e33de.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120109011408.a52e33de.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (just.puresimplicity.net [68.77.126.251]); Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:37:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: How To Enable ls Color? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:07:40 -0000 On 1/8/2012 6:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:04:17 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> I've installed 9.0-RC3 amd64. I'm trying to enable color output for >> ls. I've issued the basic 'ls -Gla' but output is not colored. Yet if >> I can get colorized output by providing color codes (echo >> ^[[34mhello^[[37m produces a blue "hello") at the command line so I know >> my terminal is capable. >> >> Is there some other secret? This is a new install and I'm just trying >> to set things up. > Put > > setenv LSCOLORS ExGxdxdxCxDxDxBxBxegeg > > in the csh's initialisation file (typically ~/.cshrc > for local use, /etc/csh.cshrc for global effect) > and maybe setup an alias: > > alias ls 'ls -FG' > alias ll 'ls -laFG' > > However, ls should provide colored output even > if you don't set the $LSCOLORS variable. It > should work with the default terminal emulation > (cons25 or cons25l1). > From here: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/misc.html CLICOLOR="YES"; export CLICOLOR LSCOLORS="ExGxFxdxCxDxDxhbadExEx"; export LSCOLORS I last updated that page a while ago...But it still seems to be working for me. :) You shouldn't really have to muck around with term type or anything... Cheers, Josh -- Josh Tolbert hemi@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. 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Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 02:10:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF1B106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 02:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BDA8FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 02:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q0929mDe062759; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 18:09:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: Vincent Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4F0A253C.9050205@unsane.co.uk> References: <1325995909.53760.11.camel@btw.pki2.com> <4F0A253C.9050205@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:09:48 -0800 Message-ID: <1326074988.53760.30.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q0929mDe062759 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-yoursite-MailScanner-Watermark: 1326679789.03437@3NDw3SXIYw9t2tPrCkd6BQ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_9 and mps driver (LSI 9211-8i) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:10:07 -0000 A question for folks along the hardware RAID (SATA 2/3) line of thinking. I have systems with bunches of disks where I use ZFS for the arrays but I prefer my OS to be hardware RAID (please, no arguments --it's my bias). My OS disks are usually different and smaller (usually 1TB) than my ZFS array disks (2-3 TB) and they don't see the kind of activity where I'm concerned about performance. My swap is usually a SSD. What are folks bias in terms of simple hardware RAID (RAID1) devices? All I need is a RAID1 device, therefore two ports. I'm looking through various documentation and component sites and there are lots of options. For hardware RAID I have been using Areca 1880i although not yet supported by FreeBSD, expensive, and quirky (I've killed two of them; otherwise it's a nice board). Here these are legacy boards (i.e., they were previously used elsewhere), which is the only reason they make sense in my applications. I have used the HighPoint RocketRAID boards and I must say, collectively (I've had several), I hate them. I've used MB hardware RAID devices, which often work but folks sneer at. In general I run FreeBSD amd64 RELENG_8 but will be migrating to 9, and have done so in several cases. On Sun, 2012-01-08 at 23:22 +0000, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > On 08/01/2012 04:11, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > I have three LSI 9211-8i boards in my system: two flashed to T and one > > R. The Ts appear to work fine but the operating system doesn't see the > > RAID1 volume on R, but neither did RELENG_8. > > > > I am writing to ask how well R is supported, if at all. Or, since this > > my first case of using R under LSI+FreeBSD, perhaps there is common > > mistakes I may be making -- the array is stable. > I dont have one handy to test but the manpage says in the BUGS section > BUGS > This driver is still in development, it has only been tested on the > amd64 > architecture and has some known shortcomings: > o No IR (Integrated RAID) support. > o No userland utility support (e.g. mptutil(8).) > o Sometimes the driver gets into a state where devices arrive and > depart multiple times, without user intervention. > o The error recovery code isn't complete. > > > This along with this thread > http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-4505.html > Indicates the R isnt fully supported, from what i can gather its fine as > JBOD so you can use zfs or one of the geom software RAIDs though. > > > Vince > > > The boards (mps1 is the board with the RAID1 array): > > > > mps0: port 0xde00-0xdeff mem > > 0xfd9fc000-0xfd9fffff,0xfd980000-0xfd9bffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci1 > > mps0: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > > mps0: IOCCapabilities: > > 1285c > > mps1: port 0x9e00-0x9eff mem > > 0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff,0xfde80000-0xfdebffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 > > mps1: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > > mps1: IOCCapabilities: > > 185c > > mps2: port 0x8e00-0x8eff mem > > 0xfdcfc000-0xfdcfffff,0xfdc80000-0xfdcbffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6 > > mps2: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > > mps2: IOCCapabilities: > > 1285c > > > > > > > > bd3# uname -a > > FreeBSD bd3 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 7 16:09:10 PST > > 2012 root@bd3:/sys/amd64/compile/BULLDOZER amd64 > > > > (i.e., the OS was csup against RELENG_9 and build today). > > > > > > Other data: > > > > > > bd3# dmesg > > Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. > > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > > reserved. > > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > > FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 7 16:09:10 PST 2012 > > root@bd3:/sys/amd64/compile/BULLDOZER amd64 > > CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8150 Eight-Core Processor (4017.99-MHz > > K8-class CPU) > > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 > > Stepping = 2 > > > > Features=0x178bfbff > MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT> > > > > Features2=0x1698220b > XSAVE,AVX> > > AMD Features=0x2e500800 > > AMD > > Features2=0x1c9bfff > BS,XOP,SKINIT,WDT,LWP,FMA4,NodeId,Topology,,> > > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > > real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) > > avail memory = 16508002304 (15743 MB) > > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 > > ACPI APIC Table: > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs > > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 8 core(s) > > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 > > cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 > > cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 > > cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > > cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 > > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > > acpi0: on motherboard > > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > > acpi0: reservation of 100000, cfca0000 (3) failed > > Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 > > acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 > > cpu0: on acpi0 > > cpu1: on acpi0 > > cpu2: on acpi0 > > cpu3: on acpi0 > > cpu4: on acpi0 > > cpu5: on acpi0 > > cpu6: on acpi0 > > cpu7: on acpi0 > > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > > pci0: on pcib0 > > pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) > > pcib1: irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci0 > > pci1: on pcib1 > > mps0: port 0xde00-0xdeff mem > > 0xfd9fc000-0xfd9fffff,0xfd980000-0xfd > > 9bffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci1 > > mps0: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > > mps0: IOCCapabilities: > > 1285c > tReplay,HostDisc> > > pcib2: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 > > pci2: on pcib2 > > em0: port 0xcf00-0xcf1f mem > > 0xfd7c0 > > 000-0xfd7dffff,0xfd700000-0xfd77ffff,0xfd7fc000-0xfd7fffff irq 16 at > > device 0.0 > > on pci2 > > em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors > > em0: Ethernet address: 00:1b:21:c6:d2:a0 > > pcib3: irq 17 at device 9.0 on pci0 > > pci3: on pcib3 > > xhci0: mem 0xfd5f8000-0xfd5fffff irq > > 17 at d > > evice 0.0 on pci3 > > xhci0: 64 byte context size. > > usbus0 on xhci0 > > pcib4: irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 > > pci4: on pcib4 > > ahci0: port > > 0xaf00-0xaf07,0xae00-0xae03, > > 0xad00-0xad07,0xac00-0xac03,0xab00-0xab0f mem 0xfcbff000-0xfcbff1ff irq > > 18 at de > > vice 0.0 on pci4 > > ahci0: AHCI v1.00 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS > > ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 > > ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 > > pcib5: irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 > > pci5: on pcib5 > > mps1: port 0x9e00-0x9eff mem > > 0xfdefc000-0xfdefffff,0xfde80000-0xfd > > ebffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 > > mps1: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > > mps1: IOCCapabilities: > > 185c > > pcib6: irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 > > pci6: on pcib6 > > mps2: port 0x8e00-0x8eff mem > > 0xfdcfc000-0xfdcfffff,0xfdc80000-0xfd > > cbffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6 > > mps2: Firmware: 12.00.00.00 > > mps2: IOCCapabilities: > > 1285c > tReplay,HostDisc> > > pcib7: irq 17 at device 13.0 on pci0 > > pci7: on pcib7 > > vgapci0: port 0xee00-0xeeff mem > > 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0 > > xfdac0000-0xfdadffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci7 > > hdac0: mem > > 0xfdafc000-0xfdaffff > > f irq 18 at device 0.1 on pci7 > > ahci1: port > > 0xff00-0xff07,0xfe00-0xfe03,0xfd00 > > -0xfd07,0xfc00-0xfc03,0xfb00-0xfb0f mem 0xfdfff000-0xfdfff3ff irq 19 at > > device 1 > > 7.0 on pci0 > > ahci1: AHCI v1.20 with 4 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported > > ahcich2: at channel 0 on ahci1 > > ahcich3: at channel 1 on ahci1 > > ahcich4: at channel 2 on ahci1 > > ahcich5: at channel 3 on ahci1 > > ohci0: mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffefff irq 18 > > at devic > > e 18.0 on pci0 > > usbus1: on ohci0 > > ehci0: mem 0xfdffd000-0xfdffd0ff irq > > 17 at d > > evice 18.2 on pci0 > > usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 > > usbus2: on ehci0 > > ohci1: mem 0xfdffc000-0xfdffcfff irq 18 > > at devic > > e 19.0 on pci0 > > usbus3: on ohci1 > > ehci1: mem 0xfdffb000-0xfdffb0ff irq > > 17 at d > > evice 19.2 on pci0 > > usbus4: EHCI version 1.0 > > usbus4: on ehci1 > > pci0: at device 20.0 (no driver attached) > > atapci0: port > > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177, > > 0x376,0xfa00-0xfa0f at device 20.1 on pci0 > > ata0: at channel 0 on atapci0 > > ata1: at channel 1 on atapci0 > > isab0: at device 20.3 on pci0 > > isa0: on isab0 > > pcib8: at device 20.4 on pci0 > > pci8: on pcib8 > > ohci2: mem 0xfdffa000-0xfdffafff irq 18 > > at devic > > e 20.5 on pci0 > > usbus5: on ohci2 > > pcib9: at device 21.0 on pci0 > > pci9: on pcib9 > > re0: port > > 0x6e00-0x6ef > > f mem 0xfd0ff000-0xfd0fffff,0xfd0f8000-0xfd0fbfff irq 17 at device 0.0 > > on pci9 > > re0: Using 1 MSI-X message > > re0: Chip rev. 0x2c800000 > > re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000 > > miibus0: on re0 > > rgephy0: PHY 1 on > > miibus0 > > rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, > > 100baseTX-FDX > > , 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, > > 1000baseT-FDX- > > master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow > > re0: Ethernet address: 50:e5:49:45:55:8e > > pcib10: at device 21.1 on pci0 > > pci10: on pcib10 > > xhci1: mem 0xfcff8000-0xfcffffff irq > > 17 at d > > evice 0.0 on pci10 > > xhci1: 64 byte context size. > > usbus6 on xhci1 > > pcib11: at device 21.2 on pci0 > > pci11: on pcib11 > > ahci2: port > > 0x3f00-0x3f07,0x3e00-0x3e03, > > 0x3d00-0x3d07,0x3c00-0x3c03,0x3b00-0x3b0f mem 0xfcdff000-0xfcdff1ff irq > > 17 at de > > vice 0.0 on pci11 > > ahci2: AHCI v1.00 with 2 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported with FBS > > ahcich6: at channel 0 on ahci2 > > ahcich7: at channel 1 on ahci2 > > ohci3: mem 0xfdff9000-0xfdff9fff irq 18 > > at devic > > e 22.0 on pci0 > > usbus7: on ohci3 > > ehci2: mem 0xfdff8000-0xfdff80ff irq > > 17 at d > > evice 22.2 on pci0 > > usbus8: EHCI version 1.0 > > usbus8: on ehci2 > > attimer0: port 0x40-0x43 on acpi0 > > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > > Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 > > hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff irq 0,8 > > on acpi0 > > Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 > > atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 on acpi0 > > Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 > > orm0: at iomem > > 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd5000-0xdafff,0xdb000-0xdbfff > > on isa0 > > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on > > isa0 > > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > > kbd0 at atkbd0 > > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range > > hwpstate0: on cpu0 > > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > > hdac0: HDA Codec #0: ATI R6xx HDMI > > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > > usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 > > usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > > usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > > usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > > usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > > usbus5: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > > usbus6: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 > > usbus7: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > > usbus8: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > > ugen0.1: <0x1b6f> at usbus0 > > uhub0: <0x1b6f XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on > > usbus0 > > ugen1.1: at usbus1 > > uhub1: on usbus1 > > ugen2.1: at usbus2 > > uhub2: on usbus2 > > ugen3.1: at usbus3 > > uhub3: on usbus3 > > ugen4.1: at usbus4 > > uhub4: on usbus4 > > ugen5.1: at usbus5 > > uhub5: on usbus5 > > ugen6.1: <0x1b6f> at usbus6 > > uhub6: <0x1b6f XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on > > usbus6 > > ugen7.1: at usbus7 > > uhub7: on usbus7 > > ugen8.1: at usbus8 > > uhub8: on usbus8 > > uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > > uhub7: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > > uhub1: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > > uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > > uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > > uhub6: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > > uhub8: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > > uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > > uhub4: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered > > ugen1.2: at usbus1 > > ukbd0: > > on usbus1 > > kbd2 at ukbd0 > > uhid0: > > on usbus1 > > ada0 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 > > ada0: ATA-8 SATA 3.x device > > ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > > ada0: Command Queueing enabled > > ada0: 85857MB (175836528 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > > ada0: Previously was known as ad8 > > ada1 at ahcich3 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 > > ada1: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device > > ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > > ada1: 57241MB (117231408 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > > ada1: Previously was known as ad10 > > ada2 at ahcich4 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 > > ada2: ATA-8 SATA 2.x device > > ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > > ada2: Command Queueing enabled > > ada2: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > > ada2: Previously was known as ad12 > > da7 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 7 lun 0 > > da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da7: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da7: Command Queueing enabled > > da7: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da3 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 3 lun 0 > > da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da3: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da3: Command Queueing enabled > > da3: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da0 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da0: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da0: Command Queueing enabled > > da0: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da9 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 1 lun 0 > > da9: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da9: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da9: Command Queueing enabled > > da9: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da10 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 2 lun 0 > > da10: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da10: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da10: Command Queueing enabled > > da10: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da8 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 > > da8: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da8: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da8: Command Queueing enabled > > da8: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da11 at mps2 bus 0 scbus4 target 3 lun 0 > > da11: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da11: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da11: Command Queueing enabled > > da11: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da6 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 6 lun 0 > > da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da6: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da6: Command Queueing enabled > > da6: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da4 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 4 lun 0 > > da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da4: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da4: Command Queueing enabled > > da4: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da5 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 5 lun 0 > > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da5: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da5: Command Queueing enabled > > da5: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da1 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 1 lun 0 > > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da1: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da1: Command Queueing enabled > > da1: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > da2 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 2 lun 0 > > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device > > da2: 300.000MB/s transfers > > da2: Command Queueing enabled > > da2: 2384658MB (4883781168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 304001C) > > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > > SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! > > SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! > > SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! > > SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > > SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! > > SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! > > Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 15695275 Hz quality 1000 > > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/gpt/disk0 [rw]... > > ZFS filesystem version 5 > > ZFS storage pool version 28 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 08:04:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B170106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD77A8FC1A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so8759373iad.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:04:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yHStyWuBKovajX9JXBSkBG2t6bcU+7X9Ye7M5+RyuvY=; b=N+e+YT/fqGmSHSUJU1ZkSd7ZsGP0wJSjWoYJS6fA+0mTLFzYOH2UhJsz8Y3Qtnv6bc M4CKcNKjO1TVJYStBIphsLjo8MdA0koCQOQ2KRnTjtXZ3dJLhDY0PJ8pOksPk5pQ7lhA d4D/QuawFLyY/KhxEe0FIwBCTcN8LcBDm8AII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.164.71 with SMTP id f7mr14697478icy.49.1326094593713; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:36:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.158.65 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:36:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:36:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: sunpoet@FreeBSD.org Subject: p5-Version-Requirements, p5-CPAN-Meta X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:04:48 -0000 /usr/ports/UPDATING 20120108 contains instructions # portmaster -o devel/p5-CPAN-Meta devel/p5-Version-Requirements # pkg_delete p5-Version-Requirements-\* I don't use portmaster. What are the equivalent instructions for portupgrade ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 09:04:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0051065687 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6018FC25 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE70AA; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:48:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zQk9wEc7Hm63; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:48:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from snifi.localnet (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E802987; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:48:00 +0100 (CET) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: <1661369.9tCDJfuqir@snifi> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.4 (Linux/3.1.6-1-ARCH; KDE/4.7.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Cc: n dhert Subject: Re: p5-Version-Requirements, p5-CPAN-Meta X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:04:45 -0000 Dnia poniedzia=C5=82ek, 9 stycznia 2012 08:36:33 n dhert pisze: > /usr/ports/UPDATING >=20 > 20120108 contains instructions > # portmaster -o devel/p5-CPAN-Meta devel/p5-Version-Requirements > # pkg_delete p5-Version-Requirements-\* > I don't use portmaster. > What are the equivalent instructions for portupgrade ? Probably similar to subversion example: # portupgrade -o devel/subversion devel/subversion-freebsd # portupgrade -r devel/subversion portupgrade -o devel/p5-Version-Requirements devel/p5-CPAN-Meta pkg_delete p5-Version-Requirements-\* Be aware that as I don't use portupgrade I haven't tested that. Greetings, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 09:48:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57FA1065672 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F55B8FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhjj52 with SMTP id j52so607295yhj.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:48:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZI2Z+CxOTvNsp478fjfF03oqHGggsUM/lfOXiUA/KLA=; b=HCE7yhcktIF8P0lfoaeCAXLeKc5uk4lrR3VZCQcVJ1q04owNAbMLaX/nXeMggI2EQb exyEF6HjUSxZYJS4uxOg9pFSzjDeeooOVg6iQSxCmbCWWbdxhagyRDImgQTjvQmWE/k8 Y+ZU1qaaEFN+8DQsCLAZJIlROHPiaRHq5Os98= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.145.33 with SMTP id o21mr5257264yhj.56.1326100869196; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.139.193 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 01:21:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F08684C.2070809@mykitchentable.net> <4F088283.7070407@mykitchentable.net> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:21:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Matt Mullins Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Drew Tomlinson , Mark Felder , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: ZFS Root Won't Mount - Unknown Filesystem -- SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:48:11 -0000 On 9 January 2012 01:31, Matt Mullins wrote: > Whoops, I missed this message before posting my reply a few minutes ago. > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Drew Tomlinson > wrote: > > Yes, although I've read that 'zfs set mountpoint=/ zroot' is acceptable > as > > well. I set mine to "/" after trying to import pool with '-o > altroot=/mnt' > > in LiveCD. When mountpoint was "legacy", altroot didn't work right. > > Opinions on "/" vs. "legacy"? > > Most of the FreeBSD guides seem to think "legacy" is the way to go, > but I much prefer "/" myself. The main difference is with "legacy", > one sets a mountpoint option on each filesystem under it (which does, > indeed, undermine the altroot facility), whereas "/" lets the other > filesystems inherit their mountpoint from their path in the zpool. > "/" seems to be a little closer to its Solaris usage, which is still > the majority of the documentation you'll find on ZFS on the internet > (and even in the man pages distributed with FreeBSD). > -- > Matt Mullins > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you need to be careful with that as opensolaris does do that as you say but it also uses it in conjunction with the canmount property. If you have multiple root filesystems like i do (modeling opensolaris boot enviroments) you could get undesirable file system mounting happening if you have multiple / mountpoint specified. $ zfs get -r canmount rpool/ROOT NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE rpool/ROOT canmount off local rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-13 canmount noauto local rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-14 canmount noauto local rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-14@2010-11-17-11:38:57 canmount - - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 10:23:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6821065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80948FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so1781603lah.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.103.71 with SMTP id fu7mr6521006lab.31.1326104630997; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jn4sm71996144lab.16.2012.01.09.02.23.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:23:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0AC033.4090306@my.gd> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:23:47 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <364237998.20120106233952@yandex.ru> <06fc01ccccbc$264e10b0$72ea3210$@fisglobal.com> <219337455.20120106234609@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <219337455.20120106234609@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: how to force 'device' sources to not compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:23:53 -0000 On 1/6/12 10:46 PM, лПОШЛПЧ еЧЗЕОЙК wrote: > ъДТБЧУФЧХКФЕ, Devin. > > чЩ РЙУБМЙ 6 СОЧБТС 2012 З., 23:42:54: > > > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >>> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of ??????? ??????? >>> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:40 PM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: how to force 'device' sources to not compile? >>> >>> I have errors while compile kernel >>> >>> ===> et (all) >>> cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc - >>> DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include >>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq > DT> -finline- >>> limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 - >>> fno-common -g -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v9 -mno-align-long-strings - >>> mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-sse -mno-mmx -msoft-float -ffreestanding - >>> fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls - >>> Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith - >>> Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions - >>> Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -c >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c: In function 'et_dma_alloc': >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:782: error: 'ET_RING_ALIGN' >>> undeclared (first use in this function) >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:782: error: (Each undeclared >>> identifier is reported only once >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:782: error: for each function it >>> appears in.) >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:790: error: 'ET_STATUS_ALIGN' >>> undeclared (first use in this function) >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:845: error: 'struct et_softc' has > DT> no >>> member named 'sc_rx_mini_tag' >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:854: error: 'struct et_softc' has > DT> no >>> member named 'sc_rx_tag' >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/et/../../dev/et/if_et.c:864: error: 'struct et_softc' has > DT> no >>> member named 'sc_tx_tag' >>> >>> how to disable 'et' from compiling? > > DT> Try adding: > > DT> nodevice et > > DT> To a custom kernel config. > > I have tryed to remove 'device et', 'nodevice et', 'device et' same > results =( > You've removed the device just fine. What problem you get is while compiling the kernel *module* for said device. Disable it by adding in /etc/make.conf: WITHOUT_MODULES=et From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 12:54:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415D5106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D668FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:54:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:54:44 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0AE394.1000802@ose.nl> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:54:44 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111220 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 8.1-RELEASE-px freebsd-update buildkernel installkernel question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:54:48 -0000 Hi Since a while I notice on some 8.1-RELEASE machines that after a buildkernel and installkernel, besides the old kernel being moved to /boot/kernel.old, it also seems to get copied /boot/kernel.old1. I update most servers with freebsd-update which also update the sources from which the new kernel is being built. With ls -l I can see this kernel.old1 directory is no symlink nor the files in it are symlinks. Does anyone know why this is happening? A second question is why does is the output from du different for kernel.old1 like shown below? qa:/usr/src # du -h /boot/kernel.old1/ 41M /boot/kernel.old1/ qa:/usr/src # du -h /boot/ 24K /boot/defaults 2.0K /boot/firmware 41M /boot/kernel 2.0K /boot/modules 2.0K /boot/zfs 245M /boot/GENERIC 41M /boot/kernel.old 12K /boot/kernel.old1 329M /boot/ qa:/usr/src # uname -a FreeBSD qa.ose.nl 8.1-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p7 #4: Tue Jan 3 08:32:42 CET 2012 Freebee@qa.ose.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QA amd64 Thanks in advance. Bas Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 14:56:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E327106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvclayton@verizon.net) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11098FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from UlanBator.myhome.westell.com ([unknown] [108.35.58.254]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LXJ00604DINF0C0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:56:48 -0600 (CST) Received: by UlanBator.myhome.westell.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B845B5DC4; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:56:46 -0500 (EST) From: rvclayton@verizon.net (R. Clayton) To: Polytropon In-reply-to: <20120108230005.f5856dd1.freebsd@edvax.de> (message from Polytropon on Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:00:05 +0100) References: <87zkdy6kxi.fsf@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> <20120108205137.a0bf2877.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120108211338.AD33F5DC4@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> <20120108230005.f5856dd1.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-id: <20120109145646.B845B5DC4@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:56:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD disk on FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:56:59 -0000 Can you obtain partitioning information via bsdlabel (disklabel) for the s4 slice to check if FreeBSD can identify the other partitions properly. Sorta: $ sudo bsdlabel da0s4 # /dev/da0s4: 16 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 146801907 63 4.2BSD 0 0 1 c: 321672960 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 174870990 146801970 4.2BSD 0 0 1 partition c: partition extends past end of unit bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities partition d: partition extends past end of unit $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 16:04:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE930106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.kosht@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B953E8FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dakp5 with SMTP id p5so3046261dak.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:04:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MuCOqTi4gsZsw7XeJ5J5jhwgNKh6Xg5O0Kx3IeVR4cE=; b=F9MKF9kAN5GLS9rUohuVf+cFmMbDOyf/GgXtOFXKsQLcCDeUt1xm1Pl89UdpP4/f0L hVuIrmzAclDQdOTN7odOWyNoa42cfyDZuKftSnch0UbTAGRLhWc83RkBWQ/9B4tGi1Ip WpPmM1xymF0ASN6uoYlVTd91i12lQD5SYXI0A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.116.102 with SMTP id jv6mr37857342pbb.15.1326123476451; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 07:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.14.228 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 07:37:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:37:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: Matt Kosht To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Windows XP ssh client to FreeBSD 5.3/pf issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:04:35 -0000 Perplexed by an issue connecting a Windows 7 client to an old FreeBSD 5.3 server. On Windows XP clients SecureCRT gets "The semaphore timeout period has expired". PuTTY gets "Network error: Software caused connection abort". I have no issues connecting to newer 6.x, 7.x, 8.x, 9.x BSD servers though from Windows 7. If I switch to an XP client on same network (192.168.0.0/16) it works. If I shutoff pf on the 5.3 server Win 7 clients can connect. So it must be pf, but I don't see how pf would be affected by a windows OS version. pf.conf follows -Matt **/etc/pf.conf (Public IPs have been obscured) # define variables ext_if="fxp0" KubraIPs="{x.x.x.x/32, x.x.x.x/32, x.x.x.x/32, x.x.x.x/32, x.x.x.x/32}" whitelist="{192.168.0.0/16}" # normalize packets scrub in all # Translation Rules: # KUBRA Translations rdr proto tcp from $KubraIPs to $ext_if port 443 -> 192.168.203.145 port 8443 nat from any to 192.168.203.145 port 8443 -> x.x.x.x # Filter Rules: # KUBRA Filters pass in quick log on $ext_if from any to 192.168.203.145 keep state flags S/SA # stop all IPv6 trafic block in quick inet6 all block out quick inet6 all # pass everything on loopback (lo0) pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all # block all badguys table persist file "/var/db/ssh-bruteforce" pass in log quick proto tcp from $whitelist to any port ssh block in log quick proto tcp from to any port ssh # setup a default deny policy block in all block out all # allow DNS connections from anywhere pass in quick on $ext_if proto udp from any to any port domain pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port domain flags S/SA # allow ssh connections from anywhere pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port ssh keep state flags S/S A # allow SNMP connections anywhere pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port 161 pass in quick on $ext_if proto udp from any to any port 161 pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port 162 pass in quick on $ext_if proto udp from any to any port 162 # allow ntp from anywhwere pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port 123 pass in quick on $ext_if proto udp from any to any port 123 # allow www from anywhere pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port www flags S/SA # allow ftp from anywhere pass in quick log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port ftp flags S/SA pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port 6666 flags S/SA # allow ICMP from inside pass in quick on $ext_if proto icmp from any to any # allow https from anywhere for redirection pass in quick log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port 443 keep state flags S/SA # allow tcp/udp/icmp out keeping state pass out quick on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any keep state pass out on $ext_if proto {udp, icmp} all keep state From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 17:36:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69EA106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward11.mail.yandex.net (forward11.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF778FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (smtp13.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.68]) by forward11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B802EE831E8; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:36:45 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1326130605; bh=w2xeig9OrG7rznoq3g4t5IrGiw9DcSN8ulNC0TKZhhg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rEJT7BxzaqqupoySujQMwPCXjcoSy3PcqneGzHSeOvoRHnS7UoOvsh4AzPVaA1BS7 AvTbPsZxqlYPWA6Zf5SZdzQsz0yFnaSJjbJ1VTZ4/cFv8Nf3VpreMEgJluMNPW/tZO 1B99jvvXn5xMDuITGFu5qFXnvVg0r5y3xeu2i8yg= Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 92F5CE403AD; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:36:45 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1326130605; bh=w2xeig9OrG7rznoq3g4t5IrGiw9DcSN8ulNC0TKZhhg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rEJT7BxzaqqupoySujQMwPCXjcoSy3PcqneGzHSeOvoRHnS7UoOvsh4AzPVaA1BS7 AvTbPsZxqlYPWA6Zf5SZdzQsz0yFnaSJjbJ1VTZ4/cFv8Nf3VpreMEgJluMNPW/tZO 1B99jvvXn5xMDuITGFu5qFXnvVg0r5y3xeu2i8yg= Received: from unknown (unknown [176.8.25.138]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id aj2uTS6f-aj2iGdgq; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:36:45 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:36:43 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <628532874.20120109193643@yandex.ru> To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201112262154.pBQLsxJt038471@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <9110154891.20111226214424@yandex.ru> <201112262154.pBQLsxJt038471@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[8]: high load system do not take all CPU time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:36:47 -0000 Здравствуйте, Robert. Вы писали 26 декабря 2011 г., 23:54:59: RB> [drivelectomy -- 200+ lines] RB> You've been told the following, *repeatedly*: RB> Your hardware is not capable of keeping up with the level of network traffic RB> it is being subjected to. RB> Reaaltek cards and the 're' device driver are a *BAD*CHOICE* for systems with RB> heavy network traffic. They're merely 'medium lousy' on a lightly-loaded RB> system, but you don't notice the problems under light loads. RB> You have two choices: RB> 1) "live with" the crappy performance RB> 2) get a better quality network card. # uname -a FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0 r229830: Mon Jan 9 02:53:51 EET 2012 :/usr/obj/usr/src.svn/9.0.0/sys/KES_KERN_v9 i386 I get Intel card, but with FreeBSD 9 Release it dont work at all! Hangs up after one or two hours of work. any suggestions? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/163903 -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 17:42:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9CA106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B154D8FC18 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr1 with SMTP id hr1so4319744wib.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:42:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kwBn/0xFDeB+XsAr/rsy6+ZPtyZud0rAgrixEdxjSkU=; b=T4MzDjcDGUCNMrVZ/cYAAdM+ROqFyqHty+SiQYVnJEcMTElNT6bgZPkkXxPe2/zd3F cLf53WoIJdKMVqQaj8abX8ZHcIOJzWap+eaolWCdDEFwIb8x/8IRfmvuko59zwA4OPfV ZcNjQ8ATT9Y+eekO4RI/+Vet4SfJLc8kaMD2c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.104 with SMTP id p8mr6197568wiy.4.1326129457878; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.94.101 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:17:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:17:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:42:48 -0000 Ports vs Packages? /usr/ports vs pkg_* pros/cons -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:06:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D4F1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FE88FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnp1 with SMTP id p1so2001150ggn.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:06:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.142.129 with SMTP id s1mr14035872icu.42.1326132387769; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:06:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:06:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:06:27 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: z8lwqNzhxE8pJDYeuhWs6Mk6VO0 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: alexus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:06:30 -0000 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM, alexus wrote: > Ports vs Packages? > > /usr/ports vs pkg_* > > pros/cons The beauty of FBSD: they ultimately update the same DB, heck even Perl modules installed via the FBSD CPAN shell get updated to that same db. My rule of thumb: use ports for everything, compile with your own options, etc. Use pre-built binary packages to install very large stuff like Gnome, Open Office, etc. -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:08:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070191065672 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:08:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1CD8FC22 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB8B3C9F9; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:08:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q09I8ecT002134; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:08:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:08:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: alexus Message-Id: <20120109190840.9f4db334.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:08:43 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:17:37 -0500, alexus wrote: > Ports vs Packages? > > /usr/ports vs pkg_* > > pros/cons In short: ports: pro: most current, if properly updated build from source (security!) apply optimization (speed!) apply compile-time options (functionality!) highly configurable easy updating of installed stuff cons: requires time requires disk space requires CPU packages: pro: fast installation less typing works good on low resource systems cons: not "bleeding edge" not all ports available as packages primarily means of "first time installation" The list could go on for hours. Consensus: Use a port management tool (such as portmaster or even portupgrade) if you don't want to deal with "bare ports". Furthermore, consult the mailing list archives for more elaborate answers and discussions. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:11:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BD7106567B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7568B8FC20 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEB03CE9D; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:11:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q09IBYYK002161; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:11:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:11:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Alejandro Imass Message-Id: <20120109191134.bc1cc68e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:11:36 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:06:27 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Use pre-built binary packages to install very large > stuff like Gnome, Open Office, etc. Not an option if your required language settings or the inclusion or exclusion of desktop bindings (KDE, Gnome, CUPS) don't match the default options from wich the package has been built. Also may apply to X.org (HAL and DBUS dependencies, if they're not desired or basically useless). Otherwise, no objections. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:15:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98791065679 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5188FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roxette.lamaiziere.net (79.176.97.84.rev.sfr.net [84.97.176.79]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 067ACFAA2D08; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:15:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roxette.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32321A4BE; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:15:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:15:21 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Joe Altman Message-ID: <20120109191521.5a310222@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20120109005818.GB80256@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20120109005818.GB80256@whisperer.chthonixia.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error in building documentation from source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:15:24 -0000 Le Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:58:18 -0500, Joe Altman a йcrit : > Greetings... Hello, > I've some sort of image error in building the docs from source. I've > copied it below, and wonder how it might be fixed? Sometimes, the > issue causes many runs of make in the directory > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 before all errors are exhausted and other > times (like the most recent) only one or two errors occur. I've just tried without problem. Well, have you the port textproc/docproj installed (of course)? Be sure that the source are up to date too. > Unless someone here knows the fix, I think that a bug report should go > to the doc project mailing list; is that correct? You can ask on doc@ or fill or a bug report within the doc section. (I would ask doc@ because it works for me, not sure if there is a bug) Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:15:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1A91065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423228FC1D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (rackstore.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B4E27F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from 152.121.16.254 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:15:41 -0500 Message-ID: <7e3c30c3cf201598b71b0be94da34bc6.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:15:41 -0500 From: "Daniel Staal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:15:42 -0000 On Mon, January 9, 2012 12:17 pm, alexus wrote: > Ports vs Packages? > > /usr/ports vs pkg_* > > pros/cons Ports: Compiled to *your* specs, for *your* machine. Faster/smaller downloads. More options available for customization. Can apply your own patches. Packages: Faster installs. Known configurations, that have been tested by others. Less resources needed on your machine. (Don't need to spend time compiling.) They can work together, in many situations. (Where some apps are installed one way, and some are installed the other.) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:16:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C9310656D0; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CF68FC22; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdt14 with SMTP id dt14so1795899wgb.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:16:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=3J91wM8haOdinhrsTBvcGa4AvK2QKBPemFEa4wmGxds=; b=m4QyvpbBk/tV3Zq0p2nu+aV1SpBAZY2hIi86axHAefzcDK5G1s2UbJxCXxqcvkJ9dO S2UhuI4KmyNLaez9E3LQ34nec3oYQr/Io268Sm98I2ea10+gqGqj0VF0gDWXYycUjJDv b6zt4eS8vTEvhFFUcR8XwBYFi85yXiOHm+Kaw= Received: by 10.180.95.199 with SMTP id dm7mr6569551wib.9.1326132963183; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-148-93.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.135.148.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm46071369wbo.6.2012.01.09.10.16.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:16:02 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:17:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RC2; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4108101.g2rYJc9dk8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201201092017.19776.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:16:05 -0000 --nextPart4108101.g2rYJc9dk8 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.36 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. =20 There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world= =20 (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). =20 The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on= =20 installation (if the relevant files are accessable). Please read the=20 installation messages for further information. =20 Regards, David [1]=20 MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.36,1.tbz) =3D 019cdde0ff7fad7dc877ed1e3bc3c= 481 MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.36,1.txz) =3D 7fe1bbd75c8c6af1d3fe6f0a03841= fa2 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh --nextPart4108101.g2rYJc9dk8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk8LLy8ACgkQUaaFgP9pFrKrpwCfVS8oG8EBEd/sQCFZ8BYfTMGE SAsAn0CRy0f7FX1RCg2qqLQ3EaygwD8s =S9Wh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4108101.g2rYJc9dk8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:19:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2531065672 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F998FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa04 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q09HQaRL027325; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:19:21 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 1284000dax-3 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:19:20 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:19:18 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: "'alexus'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:19:21 -0800 Message-ID: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQMkpFC46PmcWZVRqNXh8u/yLSzln5NUrFDw Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-09_06:2012-01-09, 2012-01-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Cc: Subject: RE: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:19:22 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of alexus > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:18 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: ports vs packages >=20 > Ports vs Packages? >=20 > /usr/ports vs pkg_* >=20 > pros/cons >=20 For a very serious production environment, here's our recipe... 1. Always and forever packages first 2. If you can't find it in the pre-compiled packages for your release... th= en use ports 3. But if the port wants too many dependencies, ... we build our own packag= e. Your mileage may vary, but the reason we've adopted this scheme is because = precompiled binary packages already have their dependencies set in stone. O= pposed to ports, if you pull two related packages from the ports-tree at tw= o different times (months apart), then the dependencies may have "floated" = away from your release and therefore, you may end up installing 30+ package= dependencies when it may not absolutely be necessary to do so. We've been doing things this way since FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE (migrated from= 2.2.2 to 4.4, then 4.8, then 4.11, then stuck on 4.11 for some years, and = now 8.1). Of course, this is explicit to rather serious production environments. Desk= top and casual usage ... ports may serve you better if you like to stay up-= to-date rather than only upgrading once every 1-2 years. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:19:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324C21065680 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A570A8FC26 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so2090355lah.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:19:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KfYlPMwBDjWq12pmFPqM13O9y3INw5KbIfT6CEHCB7I=; b=v1DT6XpLKnXO7RnysS+p0vfzrbuRMvmECfrreXvfEJV/4RSQ4DF1S2yJY5C/JKknI+ VUYlFQ4g42ygPN2OzCKJlGdFFIV1am9J9vESxji7Xcbhi1c2xKvxGUu0qWscnIkYcELM u1XeVskL+mkiTqFwYRjEYTGo7ehej2h45Co6c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.103.167 with SMTP id fx7mr3599472lbb.48.1326131302492; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.20.202 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:48:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:48:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: alexus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:19:26 -0000 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:17 PM, alexus wrote: > Ports vs Packages? > > /usr/ports vs pkg_* > > pros/cons > > -- > http://alexus.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you google-ing vs you google-ing pro/cons ? -- Best regards, Claudiu Vasadi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 18:22:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220B9106568B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64268FC27 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q09IMVbw031187; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:22:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q09IMVp1031184; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:22:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:22:31 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120109190840.9f4db334.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120109190840.9f4db334.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:22:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:22:35 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:17:37 -0500, alexus wrote: >> Ports vs Packages? >> >> /usr/ports vs pkg_* >> >> pros/cons > > In short: > > ports: > pro: > most current, if properly updated > build from source (security!) > apply optimization (speed!) > apply compile-time options (functionality!) > highly configurable > easy updating of installed stuff > cons: > requires time > requires disk space > requires CPU > packages: > pro: > fast installation > less typing > works good on low resource systems > cons: > not "bleeding edge" > not all ports available as packages > primarily means of "first time installation" Don't forget that ports build based on installed libraries. Packages have been built on another system and may expect different versions than are present on the target system. A pretty good analogy is custom-tailored versus off-the-rack. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 19:02:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AE01065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09C18FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:02:35 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LXJ005UJOVSCH20@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:02:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-09_06:2012-01-09, 2012-01-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201090177 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <2A.1D.03964.B35F90F4@cm-omr7> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:02:16 -0800 Message-id: <23FF6E64-DB78-426F-8B96-A5C8413CB7FA@mac.com> References: <2A.1D.03964.B35F90F4@cm-omr7> To: Chris X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Mounting (read/write) ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:02:35 -0000 On Jan 8, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Chris wrote: > Can the upcoming FreeBSD 9 mount ext4 file systems out of the box? Probably no. There's ext2 backwards-compatibility, but from what I recall, as soon as someone uses extents under the ext4 filesystem it is no longer backwards-compatible with ext2/3. On the other hand, installing sysutils/fusefs-ext4fuse or sysutils/e2fsprogs ought to be straightforward. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 19:13:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A681C106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440598FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so2063106wgb.31 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.24.198 with SMTP id w6mr11552545wif.19.1326136395235; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p2sm80334544wbh.22.2012.01.09.11.13.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:13:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0B3C49.3060506@my.gd> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:13:13 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:13:16 -0000 On 1/9/12 6:48 PM, claudiu vasadi wrote: > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:17 PM, alexus wrote: > >> Ports vs Packages? >> >> /usr/ports vs pkg_* >> >> pros/cons >> >> -- >> http://alexus.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > you google-ing vs you google-ing > > pro/cons ? > Now posting in a legendary thread. Also, http://fail.my.gd/legendary_thread.jpg Although, I have to say your reply is a bit blunt ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 19:36:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD621065677 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9618FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so9675351iad.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:36:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.117.193 with SMTP id u1mr19029364icq.24.1326137791444; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:36:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:36:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:36:31 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3aYbKo7YVs_Tz1x4GhSN8Ga6l7U Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:36:32 -0000 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- [...] > Of course, this is explicit to rather serious production environments. Desktop and casual usage ... ports may serve you better if you like to stay up-to-date rather than only upgrading once every 1-2 years. We think the opposite. Serious production environments should use specifically compiled ports for your needs and create packages from those. In fact we combine this approach with the use of EzJail and flavours. So I guess it all depends on the needs and what a serious production environment means for each company or individual. -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 19:47:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304CA106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EC78FC18 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa04 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q09JSZCU028266; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:47:08 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 1286drr2sp-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:47:07 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:47:06 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: "'Alejandro Imass'" References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:47:09 -0800 Message-ID: <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQMkpFC46PmcWZVRqNXh8u/yLSzlnwMuAi2IAj1W/F+TKWlusA== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-09_06:2012-01-09, 2012-01-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: 'alexus' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:47:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: aimass@yabarana.com [mailto:aimass@yabarana.com] On Behalf Of > Alejandro Imass > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:37 AM > To: Devin Teske > Cc: alexus; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ports vs packages > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Devin Teske > wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > [...] > > > Of course, this is explicit to rather serious production environments. Desktop > and casual usage ... ports may serve you better if you like to stay up-to-date > rather than only upgrading once every 1-2 years. > > We think the opposite. Serious production environments should use specifically > compiled ports for your needs and create packages from those. In fact we > combine this approach with the use of EzJail and flavours. So I guess it all depends > on the needs and what a serious production environment means for each > company or individual. Thanks for the nod ... indeed it varies from each company and individual. Another thing to watch out for with ports is architecture-dependent optimizations. Usually it's pretty safe so-long-as you don't heavily pollute your make.conf or heavily dip-into the various config options for each port. In our case, the concern is that if you optimize and then deliver to older hardware, something goes awry. You can often mitigate such things by using the "lowest common denominator" amongst your clients hardware pool, and/or mandating a minimum-set of base requirements that you target. Stating these requirements explicitly to your customer base in a prominent section of the release-notes for each release should assuage such problems, but it's also very important to get that list (especially if there are big changes in the requirements from one release to the next) to your customers in a timely manner *before* the actual release, so that they can inventory their hardware pool (determining the "damage" if you will and perhaps giving them time to perform a "tech refresh" to get up to speed with the [potentially] new requirements). Above all else, it's also paramount that (if you use ports heavily to compile binary packages from which machines are subsequently built) should you ever change out your compilation hardware, that you notify your customers of the specs of your new build machine (considering that your build machine should usually be representative of the lowest-common-denominator within the scope of production hardware still in-use). -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 19:52:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932FB106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4428FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werb13 with SMTP id b13so4460959wer.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:52:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RwCrhXoV3eCrLwetx+HFlXDnchEEEXYUjcC5170OpoM=; b=ZUvIKe03ghZVemJMWXmFzJObdTwVwd48KoOaMQK7psKz6CJenUMWHNCwSYuE0jceo1 9VBKKDBSDYZecK2L04axm1U27S0lHZcIWwluzxGIF41nwhScgFzMfJ2lGAqq2mr7tcud 0GSXgmtd6PNphSTKzZGlppm+Lus0kkTL2Myc8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.104 with SMTP id p8mr7121148wiy.4.1326138744921; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.94.101 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:52:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:52:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:52:26 -0000 I created a jail and within a jail I did pkg_add -r apache22 pkg_add -r php5 now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:02:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ADB106567B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from poshta.pknet.net (poshta.pknet.net [216.241.167.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D045C8FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 71381 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jan 2012 20:02:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO pop.pknet.net) (127.0.0.1) by poshta.pknet.net with ESMTP; 9 Jan 2012 20:02:02 -0000 Received: from 74.63.162.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by pop.pknet.net with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:02:02 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:02:02 -0700 From: "Peter" To: "alexus" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:02:04 -0000 > I created a jail and within a jail I did > > pkg_add -r apache22 > pkg_add -r php5 > > now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, > I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 > > -- > http://alexus.org/ I don't think the package has the apache module by default: pkbsd:#pwd /usr/ports/lang/php5 pkbsd:#make config [ ] APACHE Build Apache module That is unchecked. You'll have to select that and build the port. ...Or you can use the CGI version which is included in the package: [*] CGI Build CGI version ]Peter[ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:02:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9597106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3A48FC1A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr1 with SMTP id hr1so4471518wib.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:02:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nafjiXt8GNRlRskQQlYTk9scq7FaS+6ZObspvYM63xE=; b=ULUgq6SlZ13RpuriPjNL8egVVSCrH56GkAZ3o4gLXTGX+KqPW9u7UWEWJfOKxrDb1Z 6zr0bTGgCguMM6Nhy/2bSgCJMcipnG2OQclmXxU/gtEZvl9o2bdJA/08+Xih3XiVezTe RxXX5mxd+Q1yxb2oDFo69teyyl4g/9QptAGW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.69 with SMTP id o5mr30860798wiy.1.1326139377333; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.94.101 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:02:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Peter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:02:58 -0000 there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Peter wrote: >> I created a jail and within a jail I did >> >> pkg_add -r apache22 >> pkg_add -r php5 >> >> now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, >> I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 >> >> -- >> http://alexus.org/ > > I don't think the package has the apache module by default: > pkbsd:#pwd > /usr/ports/lang/php5 > pkbsd:#make config > [ ] APACHE =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Build Apache module > > That is unchecked. You'll have to select that and build the port. > ...Or you can use the CGI version which is included in the package: > [*] CGI =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Build CGI version > > > ]Peter[ > --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:05:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFD71065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4A98FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa02 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q09JUvF6011169 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:05:46 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 1286f5r4ra-53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:05:46 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:05:09 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:05:12 -0800 Message-ID: <084901cccf09$ff5704d0$fe050e70$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AczPCUW/gNxAote7Tyi+tJ/2G7yyIQ== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-09_06:2012-01-09, 2012-01-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Broken amd64 packages: cvsup-without-gui and sup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:05:48 -0000 Hi all, Running FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p6 here, we've noticed that both the amd64 build of "supfilesrv" as installed by the "sup-2.0.20060802" package AND the amd64 build of "cvsupd" as installed by the "cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_4" package, both segmentation fault immediately upon connection. The easiest solution we've found is to simply use the i386 builds provided by packages of the same name (works fine so-long-as the lib32 compat libraries are installed). Has anybody else noticed that these two binaries seem to be misbehaving in a normal RELEASE (no jails, no vimages, just standard setup)? -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:06:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3B41065677 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E4D8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LXJ00KCWRUBLD30@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:06:12 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-09_06:2012-01-09, 2012-01-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1201090198 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:06:10 -0800 Message-id: References: To: alexus X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org ML" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:06:12 -0000 On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote: > there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the precompiled package you got used. While many people want PHP in the form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:18:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B47F1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christoph@christoph-egger.org) Received: from 1und1.siccegge.de (cl-1281.dus-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:198:200:500::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1268FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dsl01.212.114.250.149.ip-pool.nefkom.net ([212.114.250.149] helo=localhost) by 1und1.siccegge.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkLfq-0004sJ-0o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:18:31 +0100 From: Christoph Egger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Privat Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:20:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87obuciq68.fsf@hepworth.siccegge.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: 2 distinct DSL lines with same endpoint (8-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:18:32 -0000 Hi all! I'm having a FreeBSD 8 gateway that is supposed to do NAT/firewall stuff with internet coming through 2 distinct DSL modems from the same carrier. Unfortunately I can only run ppp on one of these lines as the endpoint address for both lines are the same so bringing up the second line fails in | PPp ON elephant> Warning: tun1: AIFADDR X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y returns -1 | Warning: iface add: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR, X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y): File exists | Error: ipcp_InterfaceUp: unable to set ip address Where Y.Y.Y.Y is already also used for the other ppp connection. This seems to be a known Problem with FreeBSD ppp (google turns up some results) but I haven't found any usefull workarounds. Can anyone suggest some way to get this kind of setup working? Regards Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9 D49A E731 Debian Developer | Lisp Hacker | CaCert Assurer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:36:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1184C1065680 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@ftfl.ca) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50748FC27 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbbfr13 with SMTP id fr13so4698581vbb.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:36:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.28.238 with SMTP id e14mr8147256vdh.96.1326141390963; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.187.97 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:36:30 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [129.173.34.203] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:36:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Joseph Mingrone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: problem with terminal capabilities when using terminal from within emacs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:36:32 -0000 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 13:50, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > From within emacs, if I invoke a new multi-term buffer with C-c c, the > TERM environment variable is set to eterm-color and a TERMCAP variable > is also set and > everything works fine. =C2=A0However, if I ssh to a remote host from with= in > this buffer, only the TERM variable remains set and the keybindings > don't work. =C2=A0If I manually set the TERMCAP variable nothing changes. > > Is there =C2=A0a way to ssh to a remote host from within a multi-term > buffer and have the terminal capabilities work out? > > I'm running emacs 23.3 on 8-STABLE. > I think I have a solution for anyone running into the same problem. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Add the entry for eterm-color (copied below) to /usr/share/misc/termcap. # cd /usr/share/misc && mv /usr/share/misc/termcap.db /usr/share/misc/termcap.db.bak # cap_mkdb termcap # Termcap entry for eterm-color eterm-color|Emacs term.el terminal emulator term-protocol-version 0.96:\ :am:bs:mi:pt:xn:\ :Co#8:co#166:li#48:pa#64:\ :@7=3D\E[4~:AB=3D\E[4%dm:AF=3D\E[3%dm:AL=3D\E[%dL:DC=3D\E[%dP:\ :DL=3D\E[%dM:DO=3D\E[%dB:IC=3D\E[%d@:LE=3D\E[%dD:RI=3D\E[%dC:\ :UP=3D\E[%dA:al=3D\E[L:bl=3D^G:cb=3D\E[1K:cd=3D\E[J:ce=3D\E[K:\ :cl=3D\E[H\E[J:cm=3D\E[%i%d;%dH:cr=3D^M:cs=3D\E[%i%d;%dr:dc=3D\E[P:= \ :dl=3D\E[M:do=3D^J:ei=3D\E[4l:ho=3D\E[H:im=3D\E[4h:kD=3D^[[3~:\ :kN=3D\E[6~:kP=3D\E[5~:kb=3D^?:kd=3D\EOB:kh=3D\E[1~:kl=3D\EOD:\ :kr=3D\EOC:ku=3D\EOA:le=3D^H:md=3D\E[1m:me=3D\E[m:mk=3D\E[8m:mr=3D\= E[7m:\ :nd=3D\E[C:op=3D\E[39;49m:r1=3D\Ec:rc=3D\E8:sc=3D\E7:se=3D\E[27m:sf= =3D^J:\ :so=3D\E[7m:ta=3D^I:ue=3D\E[m:\ :up=3D\E[A:us=3D\E[4m: --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key: http://gly.ath.cx/pub_key.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:37:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF50E1065677 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0748FC18 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so2183282lah.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:37:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6CyhSQbGQY7uLGZbIwyL4ikcayxtfBZBp6GXdbTuBe8=; b=H8PmrMnDttHfrdEzKtYExdGIizNIdBSW0o54FeW+RSlS3YZrd6fVIgcwqHPT2+1Pok ZXA5UCTDt1b62lbJ+NXUcKrSL6uqCLVcPlxzSuYH7O6sdrfPnDnl4IWuT2t1MgCUhsL3 M6n81VPjDqhD8DdwWOZ8QXwhEgnnimXxmvTek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.105.113 with SMTP id gl17mr7421008lab.25.1326141450840; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.97.50 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:37:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <4EFF94CA.3050304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101064247.3e8b0b56@scorpio> <4F00580D.1060208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101091420.117aa8f3@scorpio> <20120102065526.GA16481@hemlock.hydra> <20120102083114.6c09d839@scorpio> <20120102193319.GA31717@hemlock.hydra> <20120103020611.GA22209@chancha.local> <4F02A306.5060501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:37:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Jackson To: Alejandro Imass , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:37:32 -0000 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock > wrote: > > On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > >>> > >>> Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its > >>> zeal to make things "just work" in a particular manner, it seems > > I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour > software, why does it run half the Internet? > > > http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2011/12/apache-software-foundation-testimonial.html > > -- > Alejandro Imass > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I Never said that FreeBSD was not a good OS to use on a server, if you just want to install it and use it, its a really great OS on a server. My concerns, and this is entirely sincere and a result of my own attempts to read the source, that rarely, if ever, have I ever seen C code that is self documenting and where additional textual descriptions would not speed up learning of the source code to be able to work on the source code of the kernel. There is very little documentation of kernel internals and the source code comments are, really quite honest, do not really do a good job of explaining things.An example of somewhat better source code commenting can be seen in Minix. this makes it really hard, and it takes much longer than it should to become acquinted with the kernel and it is just an unproductive and bad coding style to not document source code, not necessarily in the file but it can be in a wiki of some sort. Document your stuff is really important and a well known good coding practice, Ubuntu got some things right but has gone awry on one thing the HORRIBLE Unity UI which most everyone i talk to hates it. The good thing about Ubuntu is with apt-get installing and maintaining up to date packages is easy and things usually come in an working out of the box state. If you dont like how Ubuntu is configured it is a real Unix system and one can get into the configuration files and change anything that one needs to. I used to use FreeBSD a lot but since Linux tends to support more hardware and plays better with Virtualbox I have had to use that more. I actually was considering starting my own project to develop some sort of driver compatability layer that would allow Darwin and or Linux drivers to be loaded on FreeBSD, and provide a stable binary ABI, in a kernel module. This is one reason I have started to look at the FreeBSD source code and noticed how difficult it really is to understand anything due to lack of documents. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:47:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C7C106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55208FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.237.120] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkM88-0006jy-34; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:47:44 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Christoph Egger" References: <87obuciq68.fsf@hepworth.siccegge.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:47:24 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87obuciq68.fsf@hepworth.siccegge.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14280/Mon Jan 9 16:31:14 2012) Cc: Subject: Re: 2 distinct DSL lines with same endpoint (8-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:47:51 -0000 Am 09.01.2012, 21:20 Uhr, schrieb Christoph Egger : > Hi all! > > I'm having a FreeBSD 8 gateway that is supposed to do NAT/firewall > stuff with internet coming through 2 distinct DSL modems from the same > carrier. Unfortunately I can only run ppp on one of these lines as the > endpoint address for both lines are the same so bringing up the second > line fails in > > | PPp ON elephant> Warning: tun1: AIFADDR X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y returns -1 > | Warning: iface add: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR, X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y): File exists > | Error: ipcp_InterfaceUp: unable to set ip address > > Where Y.Y.Y.Y is already also used for the other ppp connection. > > This seems to be a known Problem with FreeBSD ppp (google turns up > some results) but I haven't found any usefull workarounds. Can anyone > suggest some way to get this kind of setup working? > > Regards > > Christoph > Maybe netgraph will do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:50:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A25310656D2 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535598FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.237.120] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkMAb-00073T-9u; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:50:17 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Christoph Egger" , "Michael Ross" References: <87obuciq68.fsf@hepworth.siccegge.de> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:49:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14280/Mon Jan 9 16:31:14 2012) Cc: Subject: Re: 2 distinct DSL lines with same endpoint (8-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:50:18 -0000 Am 09.01.2012, 21:47 Uhr, schrieb Michael Ross : > Am 09.01.2012, 21:20 Uhr, schrieb Christoph Egger > : > >> Hi all! >> >> I'm having a FreeBSD 8 gateway that is supposed to do NAT/firewall >> stuff with internet coming through 2 distinct DSL modems from the same >> carrier. Unfortunately I can only run ppp on one of these lines as the >> endpoint address for both lines are the same so bringing up the second >> line fails in >> >> | PPp ON elephant> Warning: tun1: AIFADDR X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y returns -1 >> | Warning: iface add: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR, X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y): File >> exists >> | Error: ipcp_InterfaceUp: unable to set ip address >> >> Where Y.Y.Y.Y is already also used for the other ppp connection. >> >> This seems to be a known Problem with FreeBSD ppp (google turns up >> some results) but I haven't found any usefull workarounds. Can anyone >> suggest some way to get this kind of setup working? >> >> Regards >> >> Christoph >> > > Maybe netgraph will do? Part two of message: ng_one2many http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ng_one2many&sektion=4&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE or maybe ng_bridge http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ng_bridge&sektion=4&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 20:56:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689741065675 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A308FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:56:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so2200952lah.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:56:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Rvd8O1yLg9xeEwGMIiewkJnik0QR6sGaSUmlbT1Uppo=; b=ITQyZABLc8myarKrse/UVmOaQ8f/NdAfKqw32cYK7U6dTGlItZlU+p4et23dY2rNF7 1kJYOL6CnZx2S61YxRQyp3Lhs/z9AiCj0MkfDDSszsw3ofdJwgjolB5VHLAVdi9uOjwz RUnblh3fsXlsqpds5iVRJ7GY4Gh4F82ViZ8L0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.26.6 with SMTP id h6mr3790759lbg.6.1326142599611; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.97.50 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 12:56:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120102214243.GA86702@sputnjik.localdomain> References: <201112302138.pBULcZfw076474@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <20120102214243.GA86702@sputnjik.localdomain> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:56:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Jackson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:56:41 -0000 > And that's just the way it is now. Try replicating the wealth of > information you get in various config files in FreeBSD in a GUI. Just > how hard it is to open a simple text file in an editor and just fracking > do what it tells you to in comments?! And it's not just the base > system, any decent third party program has this wonderfull feature. How > hard can it be?! Seriously. Sure, sometimes things can get confusing > but that's the nature of any complex system, you can't make it go away > with a GUI. > > I absolutely agree that no one should be required to use a GUI. it should be there for those that want to use it. But you should be able to directly use config files if you would like, the GUI in any case would just be a front end to config files that, you would not need to use the GUI if you do not want to. A GUI for some users can improve useability. > > > > I think that we should be pragmatic about binary drivers and that it > better > > to accept and welcome binary drivers from hardware companies. Open source > > drivers should of course be developed, then users can use the open source > > drivers as they become available, but, until then, they can use the > binary > > driver, or use a binary driver for more rare and unusual hardware. > > > > You are either confusing FreeBSD with OpenBSD or just plain trolling. > > I would never troll. Everything I say is my sincere view, I do not say anything to offend people. As for my idea for a driver compatability layer of some sort, I have looked into doing that myself, Its not something i have asked anyone to do, that is the reason I have been studying the freebsd kernel. I think that, a description, some sort overview of how the kernel is put together, where things are, such as the location of the PCI system in the source tree and so on and how things fit together overall is something that I was sort of looking for as far as documentation, especially. in my comparison of source code, it seems like FreeBSD is about the same as far as source code comment quality, and Minix has much more descriptive source code comments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 21:01:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D4F106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39CE8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadj38 with SMTP id j38so9800884iad.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:01:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.117.193 with SMTP id u1mr19553461icq.24.1326142864016; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:01:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:01:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <4EFF94CA.3050304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101064247.3e8b0b56@scorpio> <4F00580D.1060208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101091420.117aa8f3@scorpio> <20120102065526.GA16481@hemlock.hydra> <20120102083114.6c09d839@scorpio> <20120102193319.GA31717@hemlock.hydra> <20120103020611.GA22209@chancha.local> <4F02A306.5060501@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:01:03 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KY-GyGg9eOkUMTBPyiigsn3Ln9Q Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: David Jackson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:01:05 -0000 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, David Jackson wrote= : > > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock >> wrote: >> > On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. =A0In = its >> >>> zeal to make things "just work" in a particular manner, it seems >> >> I would just like to add that is FreeBSD was so crappy open sour >> software, why does it run half the Internet? >> >> >> http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2011/12/apache-software-foundation= -testimonial.html >> >> -- >> Alejandro Imass [...] > I Never said that FreeBSD was not a good OS to use on a server, if you ju= st > want to install it and use it, its a really great OS on a server. Sorry, my post wasn't an answer to you directly but to the direction the thread was taking and to the open sore comments etc. I just happen to pick the last mail on the thread and it was yours. But I should have checked first and answer to the specific place on the thread, My apologies! --=20 Alejandro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 21:11:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E5D106567D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEBA8FC1D for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa01 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q09Kvw5H031504 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:11:01 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 12877w873k-10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 15:11:01 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:10:58 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" References: <084901cccf09$ff5704d0$fe050e70$@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <084901cccf09$ff5704d0$fe050e70$@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:11:01 -0800 Message-ID: <089b01cccf13$313050c0$9390f240$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKUk3AAuQpmaF5qqlYOm9CdIBBik5R0/sXw Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.5.7110, 1.0.211, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-01-09_06:2012-01-09, 2012-01-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: RE: Broken amd64 packages: cvsup-without-gui and sup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:11:03 -0000 Update. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Devin Teske > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:05 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Broken amd64 packages: cvsup-without-gui and sup > > Hi all, > > Running FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p6 here, we've noticed that both the amd64 build > of "supfilesrv" as installed by the "sup-2.0.20060802" package Oops. Above is a non-truth (can be ignored). Turns out to be a system administration problem. The sup-2.0.20060802 package is just fine. > AND the amd64 > build of "cvsupd" as installed by the "cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_4" package, both > segmentation fault immediately upon connection. This one is real (exactly as stated). Still remains... anyone noticed this? > > The easiest solution we've found is to simply use the i386 builds provided by > packages of the same name (works fine so-long-as the lib32 compat libraries are > installed). > Still the "accepted solution" with-respect to cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_4 on 8.1-RELEASE-p6. -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 21:14:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7AB106567A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E01E58FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Jan 2012 21:14:45 -0000 Received: from adsl-67.46.190.30.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [46.190.30.67] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu002) with SMTP; 09 Jan 2012 22:14:45 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19rU/YjKJdrt20svF12pU0HJd+jHL/DK7+4vg/5+9 KQ5Bur8jG8zsuf Message-ID: <4F0B58BA.4010405@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:14:34 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Egger References: <87obuciq68.fsf@hepworth.siccegge.de> In-Reply-To: <87obuciq68.fsf@hepworth.siccegge.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 distinct DSL lines with same endpoint (8-STABLE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:14:58 -0000 On 1/9/2012 10:20 PM, Christoph Egger wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm having a FreeBSD 8 gateway that is supposed to do NAT/firewall > stuff with internet coming through 2 distinct DSL modems from the same > carrier. Unfortunately I can only run ppp on one of these lines as the > endpoint address for both lines are the same so bringing up the second > line fails in > > | PPp ON elephant> Warning: tun1: AIFADDR X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y returns -1 > | Warning: iface add: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR, X.X.X.X -> Y.Y.Y.Y): File exists > | Error: ipcp_InterfaceUp: unable to set ip address > > Where Y.Y.Y.Y is already also used for the other ppp connection. > > This seems to be a known Problem with FreeBSD ppp (google turns up > some results) but I haven't found any usefull workarounds. Can anyone > suggest some way to get this kind of setup working? > You need equal cost multipath routing support to do this. The *correct* way is to build a kernel with option RADIX_MPATH and then add more than one routing entries to the same destination, in your case: a.b.c.d -> e.f.g.h i.j.k.l -> e.f.g.h 0.0.0.0/0 via tun0 0.0.0.0/0 via tun1 There is also a hackish way to achieve the same thing by: changing the peer's address to something else arbitrary and using a firewall to forward there packets. The first ppp on tun0 will be: a.b.c.d -> e.f.g.h You'll change it to a.b.c.d -> 192.168.90.1 The second ppp on tun1 will be: i.j.k.l -> e.f.g.h Then you'll use your favorite firewall to send packets to 192.168.90.1 and e.f.g.h. HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 22:00:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D50E106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D188FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so2230834wgb.31 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=75jD/3m6thizJTrlfKvkF8OpG9AwFIO9li1PNS+frfU=; b=oUmYvQ9WnJlE3gG4KESNELsTsvg69w0h0HXS9tSK0liAwUloW3LK2Y0Zmt13iwS6kJ MX3Cj290rEOEZAKIod3W7CvV+qHB9jAz0fPIiEHmuXB9lBdMlX2A+04toqTbN3XDrT+C 6I84CxfN0zmGxBy6NfGB8qj3OJvckpslBUeQA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.11.163 with SMTP id ej3mr7809769wid.4.1326146433730; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.94.101 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 14:00:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:00:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:00:35 -0000 Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback! One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are somewhat limited vs ports... For example: I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5, php5 doesn't have libphp5.so that links Apache and PHP together... so unless I'm doing something entirely wrong I basically must use ports and nothing else to get the functionality i need... -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 22:37:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC02D106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282C58FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A2AD5C21 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:50:17 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F0B6B4E.9030204@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:33:50 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120107150555.BYL92929@ms5.mc.surewest.net> In-Reply-To: <20120107150555.BYL92929@ms5.mc.surewest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD ver. 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:37:48 -0000 On 01/08/12 09:05, leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net wrote: > Greetings, dear FreeBSD enthusiast. I am tearing my hair out trying to get FreeBSD 8.2 operating on my Hewlett-Packard xw4400 workstation. I am a newcomer to FreeBSD. This workstation is used by several different people. Normally, only one of them is logged in at any given time. I have several questions and concerns. > > (1) Does anyone know how to get FreeBSD to read the motherboard name? This name, on an xw4400, starts with "HP" followed by a eleven digits, and is given in Windows XP as "Full Computer Name" on the "Computer Name" tab of the "System Properties" window. Among other purposes, this name is used by Novell network operating system to distinguish hosts on a subnet. If you are running Xwindows you could also try "lshal" at the cmd line. > > (2) I cannot get the "find" command to locate files that I believe were installed at the time of sysinstall. If I understand the Handbook correctly, when one runs "find" from the "/" directory, it is supposed to inspect all directories and subdirectories of all partitions, which it is not doing. What concept am I missing here? > > (3) I thought that I would obtain a better understanding of the file system by running "man heir." This command runs fine under "sh." When I switch to my preferred shell, which is "bash," I type, and receive echo on the screen, "man hei." As soon as I depress "r," the entire previously entered command echos to the screen, starting where the "r" should have appeared. In checking the bash manual, it says that this response is correct for "control-r." I could not find "non-shift-r" to be called out as a command. Am I doing something wrong? Is this a hardware bug? Is this a software bug? Is there something that needs to be defined or undefined in a configuration file? > > (4) Not having very good luck with the "find" command, I thought I would try to use the "locate" command. To use this command, one must create a database. On www.us-webmasters.com, I read that this database could be constructed by running the command "#usr/libexec/locate.updatedb." I entered "cd" to get to this directory, I entered "ls -lt" to read the directory and to verify that it contained a file named "locate.updatedb," which it did. But when I entered "locate.updatedb" at the command prompt, I received the response "command not found." Why can the command shell not find the command when "ls" clearly indicates it to exist in the current directory? How do I, as a user, distinguish an executable binary file from a data file? FreeBSD does not seem to use file extension labels for this purpose. > > (5) What device driver must be installed for the sound board to be able to receive a m.i.d.i. over u.s.b. signal? This signal would be generated by a musician's keyboard, and would control a music synthesizer application, to be installed. I could find no mention of this topic in the Handbook. You will need to load the kernel module "uaudio". That will take care of OSS drivers for you, most apps will require Jack, though. There is an application in the ports that apparently reads midi and writes to Jack- I've yet to try it myself, but in theory it could work :) > > (6) In the book "Absolute FreeBSD" by Urban and Tiemann, I found a two line command to cause the bash prompt to display the file path and current directory. Unfortunately, the text is quite unclear as to the name of the file to which these line are to be added, or the directory in which this file is located. I assume that somewhere there must be login configuration files, bearing each user's name, that give his or her shell configuration instructions. What are the names of such files, and where are they located? > > Any and all comments and instruction on these points are sorely needed and will be much appreciated. Special thanks to those who responded to my previous message on this general topic. Sincerely, --Lee HTH. Good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 00:27:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633C3106567D for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from PMahan@adaranet.com) Received: from barracuda.adaranet.com (smtp.adaranet.com [72.5.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C248FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:27:47 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1326155267-06a314a40001-jLrpzn Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([10.10.1.29]) by barracuda.adaranet.com with ESMTP id AKSeKBdfx3Pkoqur for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:27:47 -0800 (PST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: PMahan@adaranet.com Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523]) by SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523%14]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:27:47 -0800 From: Patrick Mahan X-Barracuda-BBL-IP: fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523 X-Barracuda-RBL-IP: fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:27:47 -0800 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Problems building world with 9.0 RC3 Thread-Topic: Problems building world with 9.0 RC3 Thread-Index: AQHMzy6tAMi3gG2hH0WmPQRGGitHhg== Message-ID: <32AB5C9615CC494997D9ABB1DB12783C02D6525716@SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.10.1.29] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1326155267 X-Barracuda-URL: http://172.16.10.203:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at adaranet.com Subject: Problems building world with 9.0 RC3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:27:48 -0000 All, I am having an issue with getting buildworld to work for me. It is failing while building zfs - cc -DADARA_OS -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../.= ./../cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libzpool/common -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_i= pr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/compat/opensolaris/include -I/= data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/compat/o= pensolaris/lib/libumem -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/= zfs/../../../sys/cddl/compat/opensolaris -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr= 9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contrib/opensolaris/head -I/data/pmahan= /devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contrib/opensolaris= /lib/libuutil/common -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zf= s/../../../cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libzfs/common -I/data/pmahan/devel/= pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/li= bumem/common -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../= ../cddl/contrib/opensolaris/lib/libnvpair -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ip= r9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common -I/= data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/cont= rib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs -I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src= /cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/sys -I/data= /pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/contrib/= opensolaris/common/zfs -DNEED_SOLARIS_BOOLEAN -std=3Dgnu89 -fstack-protecto= r -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-unknown-pragmas -o zfs zfs_main.o zfs_iter.o -lbs= dxml -lgeom -lm -lnvpair -lsbuf -lumem -lutil -luutil -lzfs /lib/libthr.so.3: undefined reference to `__pselect@FBSDprivate_1.0' /data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/amd64/obj/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/i= pr9.0/src/tmp/usr/lib/libzfs.so: undefined reference to `openat@FBSD_1.2' Now, when I take a look at libpthr.so.3 I for '__pselect' I find - pmahan@libthr 90 > readelf --symbols libthr.so.3 | grep "__pselect" = =20 455: 000000000000c000 120 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 11 ___pselect@@FBSD= private_1.0 624: 000000000000c000 120 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 11 ___pselect So I see the symbol there but with a double "@" not a single. I don't see = any errors generated when libthr.so.3 is being built so I'm a bit of a loss to understand this. = I saw in my googling that the wacky symbol naming was introduced sometime in 8.x, but I I couldn't fi= nd anything explaining the symbol generation. So I am looking for pointers on how to track this one down. Is this a comp= iler issue? Thanks, Patrick= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 01:26:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383B5106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030718FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so91851iaz.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:26:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.180.233 with SMTP id dr9mr367849igc.11.1326158791470; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:26:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:26:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:26:31 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Qh6vsltE4lqRfapAZtVjg5GB0c8 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: alexus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:26:33 -0000 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:00 PM, alexus wrote: > Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback! > > One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are > somewhat limited vs ports... > > For example: > > I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5, > php5 doesn't have libphp5.so that links Apache and PHP together... so > unless I'm doing something entirely wrong I basically must use ports > and nothing else to get the functionality i need... > The port in lang/php52 has a build apache module option. Seems weird to me that the module is not built with the binary distro of the php52 package. It also seems weird that in the port, the apache module option is not selected by default. Maybe it's because the PHP crowd seems to have a grudge against the apache module and the maintainer follows that sentiment? What good is php52 if not to run with Apache :-) Yeah I don't like php that much, but IMHO the apache module should be selected by default if it's detected that Apache is installed on the system. Maybe you should write the port maintainer and get his take on the matter. -- Alejandro Imass > http://alexus.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 02:55:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C9910657C4 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-announce@chthonic.com) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45468FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (cpe-66-65-69-148.nyc.res.rr.com [66.65.69.148]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 442A22E2D0; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:55:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:56:48 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Patrick Lamaiziere Message-ID: <20120110025648.GB83134@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20120109005818.GB80256@whisperer.chthonixia.net> <20120109191521.5a310222@davenulle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120109191521.5a310222@davenulle.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Re: Error in building documentation from source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:55:58 -0000 On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:15:21PM +0100, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:58:18 -0500, > > Hello, > > > I've just tried without problem. Well, have you the port > textproc/docproj installed (of course)? The equivalent, AIUI: docproj-nojadetex. > Be sure that the source are up to date too. Yes, they are. > You can ask on doc@ or fill or a bug report within the doc section. > (I would ask doc@ because it works for me, not sure if there is a > bug) I'll ask there; thanks. Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 07:44:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70B6106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B568FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.9] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RkWNv-0005V0-51 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:44:43 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0A7j5nY001117 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:45:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q0A7j4qo001116 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:45:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:45:04 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120110074504.GA1101@tiny> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.9 Subject: starting firefox3 with defined geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:44:45 -0000 Hello, Is there some way to start firefox3 in a defined geometry, something like $ firefox3 -geometry 1024x768 The desktop in question is KDE3, if this does matter, but I don't think so; thanks the background of this is: I have to prepare some HTML based presentation (in S5, http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/) and will do this for a screen/beamer of this resolution, while my normal desktop has 1920x1200; matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 08:19:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7605106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2648FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcc3 with SMTP id c3so3625688pbc.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:19:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=1hI6xVGErA1v25FRG32DyYoLWs6EQ/Sm8/KMUoQn6Rw=; b=YzsCm7dPgiwrG3LFnesy1+tS6y/U008E5VBDYMj83bVqahT9Jj2N3I3fHidHfTjfR7 wvlWNsSWUyZuW7d07H3kAXfXwI4/2FYrwYQHAODbiDoFfC5gxOxU4VZ/XzBExrKxK56U c+rK/4Nf959Qq51/MrYvUS87lX/Z9H0byX5+0= Received: by 10.68.192.5 with SMTP id hc5mr48747662pbc.62.1326181914393; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:51:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.4.18 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 23:51:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> From: n j Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:51:33 +0100 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:19:57 -0000 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Devin Teske wrote: >> Of course, this is explicit to rather serious production environments. Desktop and casual usage ... ports may serve you better if you like to stay up-to-date rather than only upgrading once every 1-2 years. > > We think the opposite. Serious production environments should use > specifically compiled ports for your needs and create packages from > those. In fact we combine this approach with the use of EzJail and > flavours. So I guess it all depends on the needs and what a serious > production environment means for each company or individual. I would tend to agree. For specific use cases, one is usually better off having complete control over the entire build/compile process i.e. using ports. However, for (IMHO) majority of users the default options are usually OK and using packages is highly desired. That is why I really look forward to improvements of (again IMHO) obsolete binary package format (pkg-*) and hope that either pkgng (http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng) or new PBI format in PC-BSD (http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PBI9_Format) will gain more traction in the community. Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 08:25:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5E2106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C767F8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8281E547; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:25:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q0A8Psdw005768; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:25:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:25:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Message-Id: <20120110092554.d3001ca5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120110074504.GA1101@tiny> References: <20120110074504.GA1101@tiny> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting firefox3 with defined geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:25:57 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:45:04 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > Is there some way to start firefox3 in a defined geometry, something > like > > $ firefox3 -geometry 1024x768 Answer: Yes, but it's not as easy as it could have been. Unlike nearly every other X11 program, notably the "old" and "outdated" ones, Firefox does _not_ seem to support the _standard_ -geometry WxH+X+Y parameter. However, you can define the window width and height with command line parameters: % firefox -width 1024 -height 768 I've tested this with the Firefox installation I have here (which is v6.0.1). Positioning of the window is not possible by this means. Also note that those parameters do not show up when you try % firefox -h to get some help, and "man firefox" is of course fully futile. :-) There is a "workaround" for the lack of standard geometry support: You could have Firefox execute JavaScript instructions at startup window.moveTo(100, 100); window.resizeTo(1024, 768); Those can even be provided on the command line. However, that's a bad excuse for not supporting what users expect working for 30 years. > UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) PDP-11 or K1600? Oh, and EC1056 here (OS/ES SVM OP1). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 08:56:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF9B106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA868FC1F for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.9] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RkXUu-0007Al-8e; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:56:00 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0A8uM2M001223; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:56:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q0A8uLll001222; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:56:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:56:21 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20120110085620.GA1186@tiny> References: <20120110074504.GA1101@tiny> <20120110092554.d3001ca5.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120110092554.d3001ca5.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.9 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting firefox3 with defined geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:56:02 -0000 El dнa Tuesday, January 10, 2012 a las 09:25:54AM +0100, Polytropon escribiу: > Answer: Yes, but it's not as easy as it could have been. > > Unlike nearly every other X11 program, notably the "old" > and "outdated" ones, Firefox does _not_ seem to support > the _standard_ -geometry WxH+X+Y parameter. > > However, you can define the window width and height > with command line parameters: > > % firefox -width 1024 -height 768 does not work with firefox-3.5.18 (from ports) on 9-CURRENT; > ... > There is a "workaround" for the lack of standard > geometry support: You could have Firefox execute > JavaScript instructions at startup > > window.moveTo(100, 100); > window.resizeTo(1024, 768); will try this in the page source; > Those can even be provided on the command line. > However, that's a bad excuse for not supporting > what users expect working for 30 years. yes! > > UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) > > PDP-11 or K1600? Oh, and EC1056 here (OS/ES SVM OP1). :-) both, PDP-11 and the clone; have you ever driven a UNIX by punch cards? does PSU ring a bell? http://cvs.laladev.de/index.html/P8000/WEGA/contrib/ingres/dbs/tmp/ing_Vortrag?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 09:06:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6706E106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from php-sender-it-style.ru@undeliverable.masterhost.ru) Received: from relay2.shared.masterhost.ru (relay-out2.shared.masterhost.ru [90.156.201.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD4B8FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gen49.hs.int.shared.masterhost.ru ([10.8.3.59] helo=gen49.hs.shared.masterhost.ru) by relay2.shared.masterhost.ru with esmtp envelope from message id 1RkXSv-000NYU-Fe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:53:57 +0400 Received: from u288908 by gen49.hs.shared.masterhost.ru with local (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RkXBC-0002JO-HF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:35:38 +0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-PHP-Script: it-style.ru/templates/beez/men.php for 41.248.109.135, 41.248.109.135 X-PHP-Originating-Script: 5069:men.php Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:35:38 +0400 From: Skype Message-ID: <10a8e640bca6b93c9fddc5cade49564a@it-style.ru> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version ] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: php-sender-it-style.ru@undeliverable.masterhost.ru X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 28721 [Jan 10 2012] X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: 7-bit header Content-Type found with 8-bit header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Info: {REPLY-TO: empty} X-SpamTest-Info: {Content: Spam} X-SpamTest-Method: content [main] X-SpamTest-Rate: 100 X-SpamTest-Status: SPAM X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: spam X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0284], KAS30/Release MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Skype Security Service X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:06:07 -0000 [img_top.gif] [img_skype_logo.gif] [img_left_border.gif] [spacer50.gif] Dear Skype Member: As part of our security measures, we regularly screen activity in the Skype system.We recently contacted you after noticing an issue on your account This is the Last reminder to log in to Skype as soon as possible. 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Desktop and casual usage ... ports may serve you better if you like to stay up-to-date rather than only upgrading once every 1-2 years. > > > > We think the opposite. Serious production environments should use > > specifically compiled ports for your needs and create packages from > > those. In fact we combine this approach with the use of EzJail and > > flavours. So I guess it all depends on the needs and what a serious > > production environment means for each company or individual. > > I would tend to agree. For specific use cases, one is usually better > off having complete control over the entire build/compile process i.e. > using ports. > > However, for (IMHO) majority of users the default options are usually > OK and using packages is highly desired. That is why I really look > forward to improvements of (again IMHO) obsolete binary package format > (pkg-*) and hope that either pkgng (http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng) or > new PBI format in PC-BSD (http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PBI9_Format) > will gain more traction in the community. > > Regards, > -- > Nino Would be nice to know if there any plans on switching to pkgng or any other pkg management system in a future. -- Dmitry Sarkisov <--\ <---+---------- <--/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 10:16:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078E0106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADA48FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q0AAGEsJ072229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:16:15 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q0AAGEsJ072229 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1326190575; bh=1gpJGrwXJi6iPyUZ27NSOPKadVaylpjrc6ilMTdIXt8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=EELEJZRYyYfWJgWdc/PqPCeFSmxOsyVP6ip4j2l5uCYSGtifhvt5Kv7X6p/XPa8bC r1NSiqeveLCxWGSD2F4gqSaLg1Kup3fII4ncx+PnyE7ZUCbsnbcaqfSVYZe+5nAIJE 9GoOgJOfoXYNjqvwLa94LnH0EigsZLcMPJcvC8iI= Message-ID: <4F0C0FE6.6040002@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:16:06 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <20120110092307.GA87677@aperturescience.org> In-Reply-To: <20120110092307.GA87677@aperturescience.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB9B96161D8D79DCF54455FE6" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:16:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB9B96161D8D79DCF54455FE6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/01/2012 09:23, Dmitry Sarkisov wrote: > Would be nice to know if there any plans on switching to pkgng or any o= ther pkg management=20 > system in a future. pkgng is under active development with the stated aim of replacing the current packaging system. If you want to get involved, check out the #pkgng channel on irc.freenode.net It's still too early in the pkgng development cycle for a decision to have been made about if and when it becomes the new standard packaging system. Given it is such a major infrastructure change the switch over will have to be carefully managed and I'd expect there to be a lot of activity over on freebsd-ports@ while it is all in beta. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigB9B96161D8D79DCF54455FE6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8MD+4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzbfACfV2+qJnu99jJGAiXAF43BUZQi UscAn2MZARblUPKVqEu+AUBAHxirIOSk =ZR73 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB9B96161D8D79DCF54455FE6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 10:49:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1122106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EB38FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (a83-160-85-125.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.160.85.125]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q0AAnDCL066789 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:49:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q0AAnDs4003104; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:49:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:49:13 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120108014342.34e464f6.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120108000709.d46ae36d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120108014342.34e464f6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a bootable iso for raid BIOS flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:49:46 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jan 2012, the wise Polytropon wrote: > Does this image boot successfully? > Unfortunately this is also a no go. I think Intel has done something special to their iso's, considering that I'm missing 7MB of data. Regards, Marco -- Men have as exaggerated an idea of their rights as women have of their wrongs. -- Edgar W. Howe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 11:00:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517E0106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096A68FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.134] (helo=smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYfc-0005so-Cn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:11:08 +0100 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYfc-0000OD-5D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:11:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 1092B7; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:14:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0C0EBC.3010401@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:11:08 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-Ziggo-spambar: ++ X-Ziggo-spamscore: 2.8 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_40=-0.001, CM_META_TB_NOARR=0.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.665, HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.657, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:00:22 -0000 Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef: > On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote: >> there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? > The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the precompiled package you got used. While many people want PHP in the form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth... Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only *buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 11:02:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8951065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8C38FC22 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.134] (helo=smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYda-0003XX-Rv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:09:02 +0100 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYda-0007jR-8p for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:09:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 16441B; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:12:51 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0C0E3D.7010906@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:09:01 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-Ziggo-spambar: +++ X-Ziggo-spamscore: 3.6 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_50=0.8, CM_META_TB_NOARR=0.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.665, HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.657, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:02:42 -0000 Op 9-1-2012 21:02, alexus schreef: > there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Peter wrote: >>> I created a jail and within a jail I did >>> >>> pkg_add -r apache22 >>> pkg_add -r php5 >>> >>> now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, >>> I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 >>> >>> -- >>> http://alexus.org/ >> I don't think the package has the apache module by default: >> pkbsd:#pwd >> /usr/ports/lang/php5 >> pkbsd:#make config >> [ ] APACHE Build Apache module >> >> That is unchecked. You'll have to select that and build the port. >> ...Or you can use the CGI version which is included in the package: >> [*] CGI Build CGI version >> Yes there is no other way. Personally I find this unchecking rather weird. To me apache/PHP are a happily married couple. It makes building a webserver on packages only *not* possible and that's stupid imo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 11:17:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3879A1065673 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E0A8FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.139] (helo=smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYge-0005U8-RP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:12:12 +0100 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkYge-0007RU-LN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:12:12 +0100 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 33A232; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:16:02 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:12:12 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-Ziggo-spambar: +++ X-Ziggo-spamscore: 3.6 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_50=0.8, CM_META_TB_NOARR=0.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.665, HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.657, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:17:30 -0000 Op 9-1-2012 23:00, alexus schreef: > Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback! > > One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are > somewhat limited vs ports... > > For example: > > I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5, > php5 doesn't have libphp5.so that links Apache and PHP together... so > unless I'm doing something entirely wrong I basically must use ports > and nothing else to get the functionality i need... > As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 11:30:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1697106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ait_mlist@rocc.ru) Received: from mail.rocc.ru (rocc.ru [194.84.224.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F528FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freebsd.tele2.loc ([10.77.44.133]) by mail.rocc.ru (peer1) with ESMTP id q0ABUBr2082723; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:30:12 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from ait_mlist@rocc.ru) Received: from freebsd.tele2.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd.tele2.loc (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q0ABUBW7051381; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:30:11 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from ait_mlist@rocc.ru) Received: (from ait@localhost) by freebsd.tele2.loc (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q0ABUB5C051380; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:30:11 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from ait_mlist@rocc.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: freebsd.tele2.loc: ait set sender to ait_mlist@rocc.ru using -f Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:30:11 +0400 From: Dmitry Sarkisov To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20120110113011.GA47338@aperturescience.org> Mail-Followup-To: Dmitry Sarkisov , Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <20120110092307.GA87677@aperturescience.org> <4F0C0FE6.6040002@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F0C0FE6.6040002@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-RC3 amd64 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:30:24 -0000 On 10-01-2012, Tue [10:16:06], Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 10/01/2012 09:23, Dmitry Sarkisov wrote: > > Would be nice to know if there any plans on switching to pkgng or any other pkg management > > system in a future. > > pkgng is under active development with the stated aim of replacing the > current packaging system. If you want to get involved, check out the > #pkgng channel on irc.freenode.net > > It's still too early in the pkgng development cycle for a decision to > have been made about if and when it becomes the new standard packaging > system. Given it is such a major infrastructure change the switch over > will have to be carefully managed and I'd expect there to be a lot of > activity over on freebsd-ports@ while it is all in beta. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Thanks for the info, Matthew! It's really good to see some moving forward once in a while. -- Best wishes, Dmitry Sarkisov <--\ <---+---------- <--/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 12:05:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EE0106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CFE8FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so2813873wgb.31 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:05:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:x-virus-scanned:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-operating-system:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z4grHL3uEDJC5yxLqCQ8PnT4xfiAL3sTgpDwE4MH2VI=; b=v5RoOlpum3kPpQrkT3COSISR9wxXsCuAfrSVAXwz9pkujDo54AtB00fDSv8Vy8eilN XlCRQj5EwOGySUP+yJ5RFWopS+xFixdjVPm91wg/vy9b1PeSMuKMEywcbo1fuQfAB0SM CPZA3WO+PUxrQy2EG506GvmsfUTk7bkvLYiRo= Received: by 10.180.90.136 with SMTP id bw8mr11392659wib.1.1326195395864; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:36:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr. [217.128.200.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eb2sm1125748wib.0.2012.01.10.03.36.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:36:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: Eric Masson Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B0DCF1A3; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:36:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.associated-bears.org Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org ([127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5K5Lr84D7QF3; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:36:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 03BB8CF0D4; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:36:27 +0100 (CET) To: Dick Hoogendijk From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> (Dick Hoogendijk's message of "Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:12:12 +0100") References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p5 amd64 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:36:26 +0100 Message-ID: <8662gjrdqd.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:05:39 -0000 Dick Hoogendijk writes: Hi, > As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. *You* think it's stupid. There's not one true way to serve php pages, more and more platforms use a lightweight httpd daemon like nginx and php-fpm for example. If you manage many servers, you can build custom packages with options you need and then deploy. If you tinker with your home server, using the ports isn't that a problem... Йric Masson -- je comprend pas ce a quoi sert ce site ou cette boite a lettre.J'y voit plein de messages et autres anneries alors si tu pouvais m'aider et me repondre pour m'expliquer a qui et a quoi servent toutes ses phrases -+- DD in http://www.le-gnu.net : Allo Huston, nous avons un neuneu. -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 12:30:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75FA1065675 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801AB8FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.135] (helo=smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkaZQ-0007O3-F6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0100 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkaZQ-0003Ip-8Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 2E0369; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:16:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0C2B44.7050408@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:12:52 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Masson References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> <8662gjrdqd.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> In-Reply-To: <8662gjrdqd.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.4 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.665, HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.657, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:30:10 -0000 Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: > Dick Hoogendijk writes: > > Hi, > >> As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. > *You* think it's stupid. Yes, as I wrote: "stupid imo" But thanks again for your reply. You may be right but I still feel it's better to *have* the pache module and disable it than to *have to* use ports just to get it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:03:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708E5106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8A68FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so1355074iaz.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:03:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.162.197 with SMTP id z5mr21845265icx.48.1326204215963; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:03:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:03:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F0C2B44.7050408@nagual.nl> References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> <8662gjrdqd.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> <4F0C2B44.7050408@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:03:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SXyCuU3qEb3hz4fVwrp4ViOYDRo Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Dick Hoogendijk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Eric Masson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:03:37 -0000 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: > >> Dick Hoogendijk =A0writes: >> >> Hi, >> >>> As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. >> >> *You* think it's stupid. > > Yes, as I wrote: "stupid imo" > But thanks again for your reply. You may be right but I still feel it's > better to *have* the pache module and disable it than to *have to* use po= rts > just to get it. > IMO it's stupid as well and I second Dick's opinion. The module doesn't hurt anyone, and reduces confusion. I think that PHP is still more heavily deployed on mod_php than on anything else. The Apache module should be built by default unless there is a really strong argument as to why it shouldn't. --=20 Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:06:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B108106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4008FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fruiteater.riseup.net (fruiteater-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 230BE59890 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@fruiteater.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id 269C77FF Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:05:53 +0100 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120110140553.GA34108@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201112302138.pBULcZfw076474@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <20120102214243.GA86702@sputnjik.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:06:00 -0000 On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 03:56:39PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: > > And that's just the way it is now. Try replicating the wealth of > > information you get in various config files in FreeBSD in a GUI. Just > > how hard it is to open a simple text file in an editor and just fracking > > do what it tells you to in comments?! And it's not just the base > > system, any decent third party program has this wonderfull feature. How > > hard can it be?! Seriously. Sure, sometimes things can get confusing > > but that's the nature of any complex system, you can't make it go away > > with a GUI. > > > > > > I absolutely agree that no one should be required to use a GUI. it should > be there for those that want to use it. But you should be able to directly > use config files if you would like, the GUI in any case would just be a > front end to config files that, you would not need to use the GUI if you do > not want to. A GUI for some users can improve useability. > Well, as I said, there's PC-BSD. I haven't tried it, and don't have a need for it, but as far as I can tell people who like that sort of stuff seem to enjoy it. And if one would like to work on such tools, it's the place to do it because a) it exists and that's its purpose, and b) because of a) FreeBSD should be then left free of such complications and focused on substance. One problem with your approach is that it never stops at "just being a front end to config files". I don't know why this is so, but in practice it seems that every time you try such a thing it becomes a mandatory unmaintainable mess. At lest that's how it ends up on Unix(-like) OSes. Or it ends up sort of working, but you're stuck with GUI developers' assumptions on how stuff works and should be done. I think that FOSS community just needs to accept that different categories of users have different needs and one single OS can't be everything to every person. "World domination" ideas are just silly and pointless, or as Bill Joy said: "What was the goal of the Linux community--to replace Windows? One can imagine higher aspirations." I think recent developments with tablet computers are showing that most people kinda don't need, or even want, a full blown workstation/desktop computer and OS overhead that comes with it. I have my serious reservations on where this trend will lead us, and I'm not really comfortable with it (fortunately, people are becoming aware of these issues, see various discussions on the decline of general purpose computer and similar on the net and meatspace), but on the other hand I can't deny it makes sense. Fortunately this battle is not yet lost and projects like CyanogenMod are extremely important, as is strong activism towards mobile hardware vendors to make their devices open and standardized the way PC architecture (for the most part) is. HTC decided to sell easily unlockable phones because of consumer pressure, so it can be done. On the other hand, I don't think people who can help improve FreeBSD and make it continually viable for it's real purpose (server and professional workstation) are scared of config files and vi. On the contrary. (Same goes for other two major BSDs). > > > > > > > I think that we should be pragmatic about binary drivers and that it > > better > > > to accept and welcome binary drivers from hardware companies. Open source > > > drivers should of course be developed, then users can use the open source > > > drivers as they become available, but, until then, they can use the > > binary > > > driver, or use a binary driver for more rare and unusual hardware. > > > > > > > You are either confusing FreeBSD with OpenBSD or just plain trolling. > > > > > I would never troll. Everything I say is my sincere view, I do not say > anything to offend people. > I believe you, but seriously, AFAIK FreeBSD has never been too hostile to binary blobs. Most of the time when a blob is necessary and nonexistant it's the case of a vendor being lazy or incompetent. Or they just sell mass market junk hardware and are only interested in Windows no matter what you do. Some printer vendors are perfect examples of retarded--printers don't even need a kernel space driver, or at least shouldn't need one, all that is required is a filter you can plug into pretty much standardized Unix printing schemes; hell, even Apple insists that printers have no place inside the kernel. If they are such bottom feeders that they are incapable of making a program to convert Postscript input to their stupid proprietary control language, I'm afraid there's not much FreeBSD can do about that. > As for my idea for a driver compatability layer of some sort, I have looked > into doing that myself, Its not something i have asked anyone to do, that > is the reason I have been studying the freebsd kernel. > I've taken a quick look at I/O Kit docs when you mentioned it (it's an interesting idea). IANA kernel developer, but it doesn't seem viable. Apple cites ireconcilable differences[1] :), unfortunately. And there's of course the problem of C++ not being an option for kernel developement so it would have to remain outside the base system even if you could hack something. > > I think that, a description, some sort overview of how the kernel is put > together, where things are, such as the location of the PCI system in the > source tree and so on and how things fit together overall is something that > I was sort of looking for as far as documentation, especially. in my > comparison of source code, it seems like FreeBSD is about the same as far > as source code comment quality, and Minix has much more descriptive source > code comments. It's not a surprise considering that Minix is basically a teaching OS. Its whole purpose is to be well documented and easy to understand. It helps if you're doing an academic exercise and you're not constrained by deadlines, grants and, usually, real life. :) Have you looked at Reading the FreeBSD Kernel[2], by R. Watson? It seems like a nice overview. There's also a list of docs on the forums[3] and others have already mentioned "Design and Implementation of..." books. BSDConferences channel on Youtube[4] also tends to have informative stuff. ---- [1]: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/DeviceDrivers/Conceptual/IOKitFundamentals/Features/Features.html [2]: http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/reading/ [3]: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1566 [4]: http://www.youtube.com/user/bsdconferences -- The worst part of having success is trying to find someone who is happy for you. -- Bette Midler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:06:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F88106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@925.dk) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D988FC26 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd49 with SMTP id d49so231037eek.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.31.196 with SMTP id z4mr3957936ebc.142.1326202622126; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.4] ([90.185.151.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 76sm304379064eeh.0.2012.01.10.05.37.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: Martin Koch Andersen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:59 +0100 Message-Id: <6D57A974-1235-461E-A164-DBFC798A8560@925.dk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: freebsd-update auto merge fails on trivial VC lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:06:36 -0000 Hello, When upgrading from FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE using = freebsd-update, I'm asked to merge, what seems like, everything in /etc = manually. And all of the merges are trivial version controls lines. E.g. my /etc/amd.map (which I never modified) begins with: # $FreeBSD: releng/8.2/etc/amd.map 164015 2006-11-06 01:42:11Z obrien $ And this file (and line) freebsd-update asks me to manually merge. I = wonder why that is. Kind regards, --=20 Martin Koch Andersen http://925.dk= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:09:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293F31065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0748FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so1364715iaz.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:09:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.193.229 with SMTP id hr5mr2536862igc.15.1326204586017; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:09:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:09:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F0C0E3D.7010906@nagual.nl> References: <4F0C0E3D.7010906@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:09:45 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CaVqS56yxyuvp_JOV0RDkVRz4bI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Dick Hoogendijk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:09:47 -0000 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Op 9-1-2012 21:02, alexus schreef: >> >> there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? >> >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Peter =A0wrote: >>>> >>>> I created a jail and within a jail I did >>>> >>>> pkg_add -r apache22 >>>> pkg_add -r php5 >>>> >>>> now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, >>>> I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://alexus.org/ >>> >>> I don't think the package has the apache module by default: >>> pkbsd:#pwd >>> /usr/ports/lang/php5 >>> pkbsd:#make config >>> [ ] APACHE =A0 =A0 Build Apache module >>> >>> That is unchecked. You'll have to select that and build the port. >>> ...Or you can use the CGI version which is included in the package: >>> [*] CGI =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Build CGI version >>> > Yes there is no other way. Personally I find this unchecking rather weird= . > To me apache/PHP are a happily married couple. It makes building a webser= ver > on packages only *not* possible and that's stupid imo. > +1 I second you again here! I've read in some PHP forums to stay away from Apache and mod_php and to use FCGI instead. Maybe this is a trend in the PHP community, but I couldn't care less because IMO it hurts FBSD in the long run, not to have the module built by default. --=20 Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:10:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15871065670 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E30E8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaan12 with SMTP id n12so301248eaa.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:10:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=cdCRzeYz1b1Q07rzVmWAseC1lBtEQsixlQwWz2WcAvM=; b=O4/0tPuB/J+y8v6v492nZ+gt/fwgj6JbvO1ou8/onFpUQo+CDkxT8IB2Zb4LGGxgm+ e9N9EKsOcj2mNVIuJ4bHd7fXIZqpIfgI/Tyerj2FpB6pEesZolKozEhlrNFSG38UkTt1 WEUw4c5UUxL9NbD3wmJ5IwmTj/NYHFa6afCts= Received: by 10.213.34.135 with SMTP id l7mr4111423ebd.42.1326202735243; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:38:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.114.68 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:38:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:38:14 +0300 Message-ID: To: alexus Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174c3fe4ef338c04b62ca2ee X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:10:12 -0000 --0015174c3fe4ef338c04b62ca2ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 22:52, alexus wrote: > I created a jail and within a jail I did > > pkg_add -r apache22 > pkg_add -r php5 > > now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, > I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 > > `grep php /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf ` [wash@jaribu ~]$ grep php /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache22/libphp5.so DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html index.htm index.shtml index.phtml index.inc index.pl index.cgi index.jsp index.txt AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps The last two lines are very important. However, I seriously doubt this documentation that you read, as it lied to you so badly. Which one is it?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. --0015174c3fe4ef338c04b62ca2ee-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:30:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAF91065670 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0005F8FC15 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr1 with SMTP id hr1so5388434wib.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.106.165 with SMTP id gv5mr34868834wib.18.1326205811765; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hv1sm1569066wib.1.2012.01.10.06.30.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:30:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0C4B71.8060606@my.gd> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:30:09 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F0C0EBC.3010401@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <4F0C0EBC.3010401@nagual.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:30:13 -0000 On 1/10/12 11:11 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef: >> On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote: >>> there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? >> The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the >> precompiled package you got used. While many people want PHP in the >> form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth... > Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and > disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only > *buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package. > Yeah, no thank you. What about those people that don't even *use* apache and want to install PHP ? We get stuck with a useless module ? Really, *no thank you* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:32:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5431065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E138FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so2979478wgb.31 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.93.132 with SMTP id cu4mr3668154wib.9.1326205944245; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ga4sm67817851wbb.4.2012.01.10.06.32.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:32:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0C4BF6.6030401@my.gd> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:32:22 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F0C0E3D.7010906@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:32:25 -0000 On 1/10/12 3:09 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> Op 9-1-2012 21:02, alexus schreef: >>> >>> there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Peter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I created a jail and within a jail I did >>>>> >>>>> pkg_add -r apache22 >>>>> pkg_add -r php5 >>>>> >>>>> now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php, >>>>> I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://alexus.org/ >>>> >>>> I don't think the package has the apache module by default: >>>> pkbsd:#pwd >>>> /usr/ports/lang/php5 >>>> pkbsd:#make config >>>> [ ] APACHE Build Apache module >>>> >>>> That is unchecked. You'll have to select that and build the port. >>>> ...Or you can use the CGI version which is included in the package: >>>> [*] CGI Build CGI version >>>> >> Yes there is no other way. Personally I find this unchecking rather weird. >> To me apache/PHP are a happily married couple. It makes building a webserver >> on packages only *not* possible and that's stupid imo. >> > > +1 > I second you again here! > > I've read in some PHP forums to stay away from Apache and mod_php and > to use FCGI instead. Maybe this is a trend in the PHP community, but I > couldn't care less because IMO it hurts FBSD in the long run, not to > have the module built by default. > And that's your MO. Mine is, as I pointed out in my earlier reply to Dick, that people who don't even *use* apache shouldn't get stuck with a *useless apache module* just because they installed PHP. A possible alternative that would keep everyone happy would be *another* package that actually includes the module, like for example a package called "mod_php5", it would install the stuff from php5 + the apache module. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:36:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55BE1065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from poshta.pknet.net (poshta.pknet.net [216.241.167.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A3B8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 305 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jan 2012 14:36:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO pop.pknet.net) (127.0.0.1) by poshta.pknet.net with ESMTP; 10 Jan 2012 14:36:12 -0000 Received: from 74.63.162.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by pop.pknet.net with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:36:12 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> <8662gjrdqd.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> <4F0C2B44.7050408@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:36:12 -0700 From: "Peter" To: "Alejandro Imass" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Eric Masson , Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:36:14 -0000 > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef: >> >>> Dick Hoogendijk  writes: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>>> As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo. >>> >>> *You* think it's stupid. >> >> Yes, as I wrote: "stupid imo" >> But thanks again for your reply. You may be right but I still feel it's >> better to *have* the pache module and disable it than to *have to* use >> ports >> just to get it. >> > > IMO it's stupid as well and I second Dick's opinion. The module > doesn't hurt anyone, and reduces confusion. I think that PHP is still > more heavily deployed on mod_php than on anything else. The Apache > module should be built by default unless there is a really strong > argument as to why it shouldn't. > > -- > Alejandro Imass When I do pkg_add -r php I'm supposed to install apache as a dependency to that package ? Then people will ask why apache and all its glory is installed and we'll be back to this same argument but in reverse. ]Peter[ All my stuff runs on 'cheap' hardware, so I build most items, removing crud I don't need and will never use. [portmaster, list all the dependencies, then do 'pkg_add' on the ones I made no change in 'make-config']. Lean mean serving machine vs. everything and the kitchen sink all purpose serving machine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 14:42:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E6D1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FCF8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so2995670wgb.31 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:42:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:x-virus-scanned:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-operating-system:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b//yE9K49x4jMcV6ewWhZvml2zbtZTh7OEOXlD0GawI=; b=t7cAyILxAAXiU1ZoDr9gruHwDASHV2ghtCLoRdiyKM64Rm7H5qREOYL+GOWJanIqEf D0rEVtnQl0TI3cPruCkighaMkpgKA75ZSfpqeiV9Homfh/Awd8Oo3rv/SkR957XAbhUW vdqoXs2XciRM3dPqxq53vG88ulQ1YuRzBv/MU= Received: by 10.180.85.4 with SMTP id d4mr35013340wiz.0.1326206565473; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr. [217.128.200.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p2sm83594160wbh.22.2012.01.10.06.42.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:42:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: Eric Masson Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1026CF339; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:42:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.associated-bears.org Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org ([127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aKUwqIB5WZY5; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:42:36 +0100 (CET) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4DB77CF0D2; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:42:36 +0100 (CET) To: Alejandro Imass From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: (Alejandro Imass's message of "Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:03:35 -0500") References: <07e401cccefb$364338b0$a2c9aa10$@fisglobal.com> <083a01cccf07$79fd35e0$6df7a1a0$@fisglobal.com> <4F0C0EFC.401@nagual.nl> <8662gjrdqd.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> <4F0C2B44.7050408@nagual.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p5 amd64 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:42:36 +0100 Message-ID: <861ur7r543.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports vs packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:42:47 -0000 Alejandro Imass writes: Hi, > IMO it's stupid as well and I second Dick's opinion. You're at least two, great. > The module doesn't hurt anyone, and reduces confusion. I think that > PHP is still more heavily deployed on mod_php than on anything else. > The Apache module should be built by default unless there is a really > strong argument as to why it shouldn't. And then someone will pop here telling that he doesn't need mod_php and doesn't understand why it's packaged by default and that his own configuration should be the default instead... Йric Masson -- Ce personnage doit probablement avoir des qualitйs cachйes (bien cachйes) pour ne pas avoir йtй rejetй par ces paires. Ou bien зa s'apelle l'esprit de corps. -+- FrF in : GNU - Il a les couilles chevillйes au corps -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 15:35:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE5A106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7938FC18 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so1502152iaz.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:35:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.147.72 with SMTP id m8mr22512275icv.56.1326209721191; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:35:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:34:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F0C4BF6.6030401@my.gd> References: <4F0C0E3D.7010906@nagual.nl> <4F0C4BF6.6030401@my.gd> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:34:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0WY9uN12V3vh6t3ZrnzhpXb3PbY Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:35:22 -0000 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > [...] > > Mine is, as I pointed out in my earlier reply to Dick, that people who > don't even *use* apache shouldn't get stuck with a *useless apache > module* just because they installed PHP. > > > A possible alternative that would keep everyone happy would be *another* > package that actually includes the module, like for example a package > called "mod_php5", it would install the stuff from php5 + the apache module. Could be, something like mod_perl, but contrary from Perl, PHP is not very useful without Apache anyway. -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 16:01:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E830A1065673 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21F58FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.139] (helo=smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rke8Y-0005zz-8u for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:01:22 +0100 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rke8X-0000cK-LX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:01:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 1B3B0B; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:05:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0C60D1.6010604@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:01:21 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F0C0EBC.3010401@nagual.nl> <4F0C4B71.8060606@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4F0C4B71.8060606@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-Ziggo-spambar: +++ X-Ziggo-spamscore: 3.6 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_50=0.8, CM_META_TB_NOARR=0.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.665, HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.657, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:01:24 -0000 Op 10-1-2012 15:30, Damien Fleuriot schreef: > > On 1/10/12 11:11 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef: >>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote: >>>> there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? >>> The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the >>> precompiled package you got used. While many people want PHP in the >>> form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth... >> Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and >> disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only >> *buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package. >> > Yeah, no thank you. > > What about those people that don't even *use* apache and want to install > PHP ? > > We get stuck with a useless module ? > > Really, *no thank you* Wow, that really IS bad.. considering the price of drivespace.. No it really is much better to *force* everyone who wants to run apache/PHP to *build* from source. No pkgadd for those guys.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 16:02:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5DB106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557058FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.139] (helo=smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rke9u-0005WO-Al for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:02:46 +0100 Received: from 524944af.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.73.68.175] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rke9u-0001V5-62 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:02:46 +0100 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by yanta (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 244586; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:06:35 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0C6126.2010305@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:02:46 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F0C0E3D.7010906@nagual.nl> <4F0C4BF6.6030401@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4F0C4BF6.6030401@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-Ziggo-spambar: +++ X-Ziggo-spamscore: 3.6 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_50=0.8, CM_META_TB_NOARR=0.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.665, HELO_MISC_IP=0.001, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.657, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:02:47 -0000 Op 10-1-2012 15:32, Damien Fleuriot schreef: > A possible alternative that would keep everyone happy would be > *another* package that actually includes the module, like for example > a package called "mod_php5", it would install the stuff from php5 + > the apache module. That is the way CentOS handles things and that works very well too. So +1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 16:14:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C177B106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564C08FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr1 with SMTP id hr1so5518538wib.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.20.39 with SMTP id k7mr4336859wie.6.1326212073174; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fo18sm83927036wbb.12.2012.01.10.08.14.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:14:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0C63E6.6020604@my.gd> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:14:30 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass References: <4F0C0E3D.7010906@nagual.nl> <4F0C4BF6.6030401@my.gd> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:14:34 -0000 On 1/10/12 4:34 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >> > > [...] > >> >> Mine is, as I pointed out in my earlier reply to Dick, that people who >> don't even *use* apache shouldn't get stuck with a *useless apache >> module* just because they installed PHP. >> >> >> A possible alternative that would keep everyone happy would be *another* >> package that actually includes the module, like for example a package >> called "mod_php5", it would install the stuff from php5 + the apache module. > > Could be, something like mod_perl, but contrary from Perl, PHP is not > very useful without Apache anyway. > > And who are you to claim that "php is not very useful w/o apache anyway" ? I mean, just because it falls within your needs doesn't mean it's a good option for everyone. In the same way, I could claim that rsyslogd should replace syslogd in the base system because I find it better, so everyone should use it. We use PHP here in a production environment on many servers that have never seen, and will never ever see, apache. On some it runs daemons, on some it runs scripts, on yet some others it's served by either nginx or lighttpd, not to mention dedicated fastcgi servers that don't have a web server running to begin with. IMO the best option would be a separate package, enforcing an apache module on people that will never ever use it is just plain dumb. This also seems to be the opinion of the port's manager, seeing mod_php is unselected by default. Just my 2 cents. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 16:17:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842E8106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5018FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so3117547wgb.31 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.85.4 with SMTP id d4mr35617901wiz.0.1326212223975; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm83948608wby.3.2012.01.10.08.17.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:17:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0C647D.9080206@my.gd> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:17:01 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F0C0EBC.3010401@nagual.nl> <4F0C4B71.8060606@my.gd> <4F0C60D1.6010604@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <4F0C60D1.6010604@nagual.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:17:05 -0000 On 1/10/12 5:01 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Op 10-1-2012 15:30, Damien Fleuriot schreef: >> >> On 1/10/12 11:11 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >>> Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef: >>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote: >>>>> there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports? >>>> The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the >>>> precompiled package you got used. While many people want PHP in the >>>> form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so >>>> forth... >>> Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and >>> disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only >>> *buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package. >>> >> Yeah, no thank you. >> >> What about those people that don't even *use* apache and want to install >> PHP ? >> >> We get stuck with a useless module ? >> >> Really, *no thank you* > Wow, that really IS bad.. considering the price of drivespace.. No it > really is much better to *force* everyone who wants to run apache/PHP to > *build* from source. No pkgadd for those guys.. > It's not about disk space, it's about the philosophy behind it. Following the same line of thinking, the CGI binary should also be included, along with spawn-fcgi, php-fpm and so on. A separate package would be ideal, it'd be the same as php5 but would also include the apache module. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 18:27:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BEF1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467118FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-82.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.82]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A643C3C97F; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:27:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q0AIRj0X002330; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:27:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:27:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Message-Id: <20120110192745.1f6cd928.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120110085620.GA1186@tiny> References: <20120110074504.GA1101@tiny> <20120110092554.d3001ca5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120110085620.GA1186@tiny> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting firefox3 with defined geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:27:47 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:56:21 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Tuesday, January 10, 2012 a las 09:25:54AM +0100, Polytropon esc= ribi=F3: >=20 > > Answer: Yes, but it's not as easy as it could have been. > >=20 > > Unlike nearly every other X11 program, notably the "old" > > and "outdated" ones, Firefox does _not_ seem to support > > the _standard_ -geometry WxH+X+Y parameter. > >=20 > > However, you can define the window width and height > > with command line parameters: > >=20 > > % firefox -width 1024 -height 768 >=20 > does not work with firefox-3.5.18 (from ports) on 9-CURRENT; Oh the joy of modern software. :-) > > ...=20 > > There is a "workaround" for the lack of standard > > geometry support: You could have Firefox execute > > JavaScript instructions at startup > >=20 > > window.moveTo(100, 100); > > window.resizeTo(1024, 768); >=20 > will try this in the page source; You can also provide those as command line parameters and have Firefox execute them on startup % firefox javascript:%20resizeTo\(500,500\) This works with v6.0.1 running on WindowMaker. As you said you're running KDE, why not try to compensate Firefox's inabilities to support standard -geometry parameters? I found this tool: http://tomas.styblo.name/wmctrl/ Maybe it also works with KDE which manages the Firefox window? The program can be found at x11/wmctrl in the ports collection. KDE uses kwin as its window management subsystem which (according to the documentation) should be compatible. It's really annoying that one has to jump through such hoops just to get a 30 year old standard functionality that every other program has... Hey, even Opera can do it! And now back to history. :-) > > > UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) > >=20 > > PDP-11 or K1600? Oh, and EC1056 here (OS/ES SVM OP1). :-) >=20 > both, PDP-11 and the clone; Our clone or the KFKI clone? http://hampage.hu/tpa/e_tpa1140.html Did you run MUTOS or SVP on that thing? > have you ever driven a UNIX by punch cards? No, but I'm familiar with the concept of input redirection in batch mode. Even TSO could be fed via punch cards as it was represented as a batch job. :-) > does PSU ring a bell? > http://cvs.laladev.de/index.html/P8000/WEGA/contrib/ingres/dbs/tmp/ing_Vo= rtrag?rev=3D1.1&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup Yes, it does. And I even know this text - which is easy as the material found on the Internet about this topic is very limited. :-) Do you know VMX, a UNIX running as a virtual machine on SVM? (I've also been running UNIX System III "WEGA" on a P8000 here.) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 19:20:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2B7106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044F58FC1F for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr11 with SMTP id dr11so3335380wgb.31 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:20:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5CQuIrdQBolFofacJTEmbFcjHHNKcx9Qac0iUBECKzU=; b=klRyNMKBiGa3gsUEtm/AfY748cHTY/YzJ0QhQ+nd0qMfB8bX/9u2KZA0gC/17yChgE bPcE2b+UtiRVm+0bIJZyCYG/264BCKiSOs0GMz+g5v3jbp99dzEUYxF71DIVl9CoCdTi FiNS+ePuzw9okovPHYUm2a/8zMMKdTq6GHLvM= Received: by 10.180.91.42 with SMTP id cb10mr5603567wib.15.1326223249028; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (197.21.102.84.rev.sfr.net. [84.102.21.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m13sm84572672wbh.0.2012.01.10.11.20.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:20:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0C817B.4090209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:20:43 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120105 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Old UFS label complains on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:20:50 -0000 Hello, I've just updated my laptop from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE, everything worked but the kernel complains about labels see : g_dev_taste: make_dev_p() failed (gp->name=vol/root, error=17) g_dev_taste: make_dev_p() failed (gp->name=vol/root, error=17) g_dev_taste: make_dev_p() failed (gp->name=vol/var, error=17) g_dev_taste: make_dev_p() failed (gp->name=vol/var, error=17) g_dev_taste: make_dev_p() failed (gp->name=vol/tmp, error=17) g_dev_taste: make_dev_p() failed (gp->name=vol/tmp, error=17) The labels works because my fstab relies on them. How can I fix that? Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 20:05:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A440106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476968FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q0AK591b006998; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:05:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q0AK59ZJ006995; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:05:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:05:09 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120110192745.1f6cd928.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120110074504.GA1101@tiny> <20120110092554.d3001ca5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120110085620.GA1186@tiny> <20120110192745.1f6cd928.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-1898889873-1326225909=:6968" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:05:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting firefox3 with defined geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:05:12 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-1898889873-1326225909=:6968 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:56:21 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> El dнa Tuesday, January 10, 2012 a las 09:25:54AM +0100, Polytropon escribiу: >> >>> Answer: Yes, but it's not as easy as it could have been. >>> >>> Unlike nearly every other X11 program, notably the "old" >>> and "outdated" ones, Firefox does _not_ seem to support >>> the _standard_ -geometry WxH+X+Y parameter. >>> >>> However, you can define the window width and height >>> with command line parameters: >>> >>> % firefox -width 1024 -height 768 >> >> does not work with firefox-3.5.18 (from ports) on 9-CURRENT; > > Oh the joy of modern software. :-) > > > >>> ... >>> There is a "workaround" for the lack of standard >>> geometry support: You could have Firefox execute >>> JavaScript instructions at startup >>> >>> window.moveTo(100, 100); >>> window.resizeTo(1024, 768); >> >> will try this in the page source; > > You can also provide those as command line parameters > and have Firefox execute them on startup > > % firefox javascript:%20resizeTo\(500,500\) Another option is x11-wm/devilspie. ---902635197-1898889873-1326225909=:6968-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 20:13:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D171065675 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE1E8FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.154.35] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rki4s-00055l-TZ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:13:51 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0AKE88x001292; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:14:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q0AKE7u9001291; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:14:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:14:07 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20120110201406.GA1278@tiny> References: <20120110074504.GA1101@tiny> <20120110092554.d3001ca5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120110085620.GA1186@tiny> <20120110192745.1f6cd928.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120110192745.1f6cd928.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.154.35 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting firefox3 with defined geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:13:53 -0000 El dнa Tuesday, January 10, 2012 a las 07:27:45PM +0100, Polytropon escribiу: > And now back to history. :-) > > > > > UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) > > > > > > PDP-11 or K1600? Oh, and EC1056 here (OS/ES SVM OP1). :-) > > > > both, PDP-11 and the clone; > > Our clone or the KFKI clone? > > http://hampage.hu/tpa/e_tpa1140.html I don't remember the exact name, it was one from USSR, maybe a CMC1420(?), or was it from Chech? > > Did you run MUTOS or SVP on that thing? no, I never used them; I only booked slots of time in the night to do UNIX ports and tests on the hardware, booting my own tapes or disks; > > does PSU ring a bell? > > http://cvs.laladev.de/index.html/P8000/WEGA/contrib/ingres/dbs/tmp/ing_Vortrag?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup > > Yes, it does. And I even know this text - which is > easy as the material found on the Internet about > this topic is very limited. :-) > > Do you know VMX, a UNIX running as a virtual machine > on SVM? I did the port of the driver of the 7906 terminal in the VMX project :-) > (I've also been running UNIX System III "WEGA" on > a P8000 here.) me too; it was a two mini-tower system, wasn't it? we are gooing OT and maybe even to much into history of old stories; matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 10 22:52:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF90106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from PMahan@adaranet.com) Received: from barracuda.adaranet.com (smtp.adaranet.com [72.5.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05408FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:52:28 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1326235947-586e010b0002-jLrpzn Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([10.10.1.29]) by barracuda.adaranet.com with ESMTP id 4jzAxQygUgwHEZoQ for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:52:28 -0800 (PST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: PMahan@adaranet.com Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523]) by SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523%14]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:32:12 -0800 From: Patrick Mahan X-Barracuda-BBL-IP: fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523 X-Barracuda-RBL-IP: fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523 To: Patrick Mahan , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:32:09 -0800 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: Problems building world with 9.0 RC3 [SOLVED] Thread-Topic: Problems building world with 9.0 RC3 [SOLVED] Thread-Index: AQHMzy6tAMi3gG2hH0WmPQRGGitHhpYGL13A Message-ID: <32AB5C9615CC494997D9ABB1DB12783C02D67D3A72@SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com> References: <32AB5C9615CC494997D9ABB1DB12783C02D6525716@SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com> In-Reply-To: <32AB5C9615CC494997D9ABB1DB12783C02D6525716@SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.10.1.29] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1326235948 X-Barracuda-URL: http://172.16.10.203:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at adaranet.com Cc: Subject: RE: Problems building world with 9.0 RC3 [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:52:29 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Mahan >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:28 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Problems building world with 9.0 RC3 > >All, > >I am having an issue with getting buildworld to work for me. It is failin= g >while building zfs - > >cc -DADARA_OS - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contr= ib >/opensolaris/lib/libzpool/common - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/compa= t/ >opensolaris/include - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/compa= t/ >opensolaris/lib/libumem - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/c= om >pat/opensolaris - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contr= ib >/opensolaris/head - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contr= ib >/opensolaris/lib/libuutil/common - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contr= ib >/opensolaris/lib/libzfs/common - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contr= ib >/opensolaris/lib/libumem/common - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../cddl/contr= ib >/opensolaris/lib/libnvpair - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/c= on >trib/opensolaris/uts/common - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/c= on >trib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/c= on >trib/opensolaris/uts/common/sys - >I/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/src/cddl/sbin/zfs/../../../sys/cddl/c= on >trib/opensolaris/common/zfs -DNEED_SOLARIS_BOOLEAN -std=3Dgnu89 -fstack- >protector -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-unknown-pragmas -o zfs zfs_main.o >zfs_iter.o -lbsdxml -lgeom -lm -lnvpair -lsbuf -lumem -lutil -luutil -lzfs >/lib/libthr.so.3: undefined reference to `__pselect@FBSDprivate_1.0' >/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/ipr9.0/amd64/obj/data/pmahan/devel/pm_ipr9.0/= ip >r9.0/src/tmp/usr/lib/libzfs.so: undefined reference to `openat@FBSD_1.2' > >Now, when I take a look at libpthr.so.3 I for '__pselect' I find - > >pmahan@libthr 90 > readelf --symbols libthr.so.3 | grep "__pselect" > 455: 000000000000c000 120 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 11 >___pselect@@FBSDprivate_1.0 > 624: 000000000000c000 120 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 11 ___pselect > >So I see the symbol there but with a double "@" not a single. I don't see >any errors generated >when libthr.so.3 is being built so I'm a bit of a loss to understand this. >I saw in my googling that >the wacky symbol naming was introduced sometime in 8.x, but I I couldn't >find anything explaining >the symbol generation. > >So I am looking for pointers on how to track this one down. Is this a >compiler issue? > I figured this out today, thanks to a colleague who was building just fine. It turns out that I had LD_LIBRARY_PATH set in my environment (no particula= r reason, just left over environmental stuff from years of abuse). It pointed to '/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib' So I'm guessing the it was picking up a library "outside" of the buildworld sandbox. Looking at the failed command I notice that there are no "-L" directives. Wouldn't this have over-ridden my LD_LIBRARY_PATH? In any cas= e I have removed that from my shell environment and everything is now buildin= g. Thanks, Patrick ---------------------------------------------------- Patrick Mahan Lead Technical Kernel Engineer Adara Networks Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are solely the responsibility of th= e author and are not to be construed as an official opinion of Adara Networks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 11 00:53:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E67C106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gdd80911@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAFD8FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwd18 with SMTP id wd18so338379obb.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:53:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hjVZm4dEu+ZaR7WaRu3LlXw8FFa4e73UO4E4bskHtjg=; b=I8BmaxItqwzfbsxWe7hIqzGPu0MXdk+/3LFJhgvfdjoLMXJVaE3dFwiMaUpAvlj9tZ C0a88Bb36U9J6guu2/Jw6JAnl0l9ukaj6/dxx5ydmIRYeZbAmmd+JcDl/Y4ziVd9Cgvi CEj/xKUyJz5suorAxnG2FrB+NZnXZxlaSkObw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.226.9 with SMTP id ro9mr1637865obc.36.1326241557256; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.45.163 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:25:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:25:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Glen Davenport To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:18:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:53:33 -0000 My name is Glen Davenport. I am trying to download freebsd but haven't a clue as to how the FTP function works.When I go to download I am given a directory listing. Needless to say, I have never downloaded anything for UNIX/LIINUX. Can you help? My e-mail address is gdd80911@gmail.com. Thanks. Glen Davenport GDD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 11 02:43:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66B8106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlisten@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437878FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd49 with SMTP id d49so102800eek.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:43:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mvw38B7SYeX4H5Df2sweTlyXcc+zIdtHXynf3uH9lKo=; b=GcLw/YJdJmE0WvNAxfaRNpiXbxYg1fb3Mjd2I03+i1uWBahQI1HcAlQDaWXXeMsZs7 Md8lYzfYM7Jd9/yvvkzqUdNs8PX1nz43PpKWF/vxLm3PCqbp0VRthQcQgMY2oRHRHtfW g1+8racFU8GWM5aXPLA3YVlTL6oTQsVqK9XuE= Received: by 10.14.9.204 with SMTP id 52mr8369340eet.14.1326249786480; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.105] ([89.47.83.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x43sm13195697eef.8.2012.01.10.18.43.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:43:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0CF737.5060404@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:43:03 +0200 From: Rares Aioanei User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111114 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Davenport References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:43:08 -0000 On 01/11/2012 02:25 AM, Glen Davenport wrote: > My name is Glen Davenport. I am trying to download freebsd but haven't a > clue as to how the FTP function works.When I go to download I am given a > directory listing. Needless to say, I have never downloaded anything for > UNIX/LIINUX. Can you help? > > My e-mail address is gdd80911@gmail.com. Thanks. > > Glen Davenport > GDD > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Glen, Assuming you have a 32-bit PC, here's the link to the disc image you need: http://ftp.dk.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/8.2/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso . Burn it on a CD as image, not directly, then boot from CD and, with the help of the excellent Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/) you will have a shiny BSD system installed. Feel free to ask if you get stuck, but it's recommended you take a look at the Handbook first. 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(VPS 120110-1, 01/10/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: mpd5 up-script Example? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:57:53 -0000 I've installed mpd5 and am using it to access a pptp VPN server at work. I've got the config working but am trying to use the 'set iface up-script