From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 00:14:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E538106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-197-151.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD017150B1F; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F403EF7.2090505@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:14:47 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien Fleuriot References: <4F3E5925.8020004@my.gd> <4F3EE984.8020007@FreeBSD.org> <4F3F8A38.10303@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4F3F8A38.10303@my.gd> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: DNS - slaving the root zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:14:48 -0000 On 02/18/2012 03:23, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 2/18/12 12:57 AM, Doug Barton wrote: >> >> To clarify, almost universally the opposition to the idea centers around >> the problems of users who enable this method, and then don't notice if >> something changes/breaks, resulting in a stale zone (or zones, depending >> on what you choose to slave). I have always acknowledged that this is a >> valid concern, just not one that I think overwhelms the virtues of doing >> the slaving in the first place. >> > > Could you elaborate on the "something changes/breaks, admin doesn't > notice, results in a stale zone" bit ? Most commonly whatever auth. server the user is axfr'ing from suddenly stops offering that ability. > I fail to see the circumstances under which that could happen. I tend to agree, which is why I weight this particular objection pretty low. If you don't notice failed axfrs, you've already got deeper problems. :) To be fair however, there are a lot of people who believe (rightly or wrongly) that resolving DNS should be a "fire and forget" service. Those of us who do this for a living know that this was never true, and DNSSEC makes that even less true. However, if you happen to be one of those people, this method is not for you. > Indeed, been deleting the traditional hint file based . zone for a while > and using the slaving mechanism for over a year already, works fine > enough for us. I'm glad to hear that. Makes me feel that my efforts in this area have been worthwhile. > You have me somewhat worried with the bit about something breaking > though, thus the call for details ;) Understood. You don't seem to be the type of operator who is likely to run afoul here, FWIW. Doug -- It's always a long day; 86400 doesn't fit into a short. Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 00:15:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C381106567B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E768FC1A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7521703E; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:15:01 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4F403F04.8080502@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:15:00 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky References: <4F3DABA6.9090402@hdk5.net> <4F3DB231.7010607@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201202172115.50502.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201202172115.50502.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Da Rock Subject: Re: Is the list down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:15:02 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 17 February 2012 08:49:37 Da Rock wrote: >> On 02/17/12 11:21, Al Plant wrote: >>> I have not seen any action in 2 days. >> There's been plenty of action in the last 2 days. Maybe check your mail >> server logs for errors? > > I noticed the same thing. The missing mails arrived all meanwhile over night. > > Mails from other sources have been received normally during this period of time. > > Things like this happen once in a while. > > Erich >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha Eric, My missing mail finally come down the pipe over night too. Strange but it has happened before. Thanks for your support. Where are you located? Here in Hawaii we have military installations that suck up band with for certain projects that have in the past interfered with email flow.. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 00:41:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1B41065670 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E798FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so2606203yhf.13 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rsimmons0@gmail.com designates 10.236.72.195 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.72.195; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rsimmons0@gmail.com designates 10.236.72.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rsimmons0@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rsimmons0@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.72.195]) by 10.236.72.195 with SMTP id t43mr20929711yhd.126.1329612085398 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:41:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ak6XyUKzBjw2Kmf7wvEpFr/p1wXa2dzKO+KxfkjJPcY=; b=kzZA4F1uKD7ewvKPuUN5Xl4TA/jXhBaMCRk5AD3uh27eVJzYH3mi1o3Oq3/CyuuDzB i5GxPWCDfbvmhLHRPJveuz15PVFI1wHgYeZuCIuzs6U73AJ+s3drWIRJYUccfBsreSK+ vXnzTd5hZ8R1IsXBaF0NjBWnwAOc/aAehT7Gc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.72.195 with SMTP id t43mr16013384yhd.126.1329610318471; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.102.11 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:11:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:11:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: gpart usage during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:41:26 -0000 I'm just installing a 9.0-RELEASE instance in Virtual Box to check things out. I ran into something odd. With 8.x I install certain things into a geli encrypted partition. To do this I have to use a fixit shell and a manual install. Now, I'm trying to do the same thing in 9.0, but when I get to the partitioning stage of the install, and I select the option to setup the partitions in a shell, I get the following error from gpart. What has changed? What am I doing wrong? # gpart create -s GPT ad0 gpart: arg0 'ad0': Invalid argument From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 01:03:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E14A106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB82D8FC14 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RyvB6-0005Te-49 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:03:00 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:03:00 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:03:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:02:55 -0500 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: gpart usage during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:03:03 -0000 Robert Simmons wrote: > I'm just installing a 9.0-RELEASE instance in Virtual Box to check > things out. I ran into something odd. With 8.x I install certain > things into a geli encrypted partition. To do this I have to use a > fixit shell and a manual install. Now, I'm trying to do the same > thing in 9.0, but when I get to the partitioning stage of the install, > and I select the option to setup the partitions in a shell, I get the > following error from gpart. What has changed? What am I doing wrong? > > # gpart create -s GPT ad0 > gpart: arg0 'ad0': Invalid argument 9 is using the new ATA_CAM layer now, so your drive will look like: ada0 instead of the old ad0. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 01:07:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4C2106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F138FC15 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1J17Ggr026038; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:07:19 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: noc@hdk5.net Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:07:15 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3DABA6.9090402@hdk5.net> <201202172115.50502.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F403F04.8080502@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <4F403F04.8080502@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202190807.15682.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Da Rock Subject: Re: Is the list down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:07:31 -0000 Hi Al, On Sunday 19 February 2012 07:15:00 Al Plant wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Aloha Eric, > > My missing mail finally come down the pipe over night too. Strange but > it has happened before. > > Thanks for your support. Where are you located? Here in Hawaii we have > military installations that suck up band with for certain projects that > have in the past interfered with email flow.. > the server is in Salt Lake City but I on the other side of the globe: Indonesia. > > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 I always have one question when I hear of people from a location like yours: how is it going with the mosquitoes there? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 01:39:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26FE106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65AE8FC17 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so8021862iae.13 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 10.42.154.195 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.42.154.195; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 10.42.154.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=olivares14031@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=olivares14031@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.42.154.195]) by 10.42.154.195 with SMTP id r3mr7062947icw.36.1329615574265 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:39:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=49kwpyNrZ1cCAVF84DGLOneSbSKlkmDoOtckeaQucOc=; b=qO8pAFENO0D/QcYhviQP/leaxc+5CPpI71g1aEaBkBQaG+3ob/EEBgysTEe0vKOiIv a6HNodsBApsmOo+cmT1UzOVqyWAqUInfpx7WJYl7d9xkYcj+DxPx6Qf4YW07iguaAqD/ jtf5fFQ5kONX0Z7V6ff/aSM2rZtLor2BN330U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.154.195 with SMTP id r3mr5716493icw.36.1329615574219; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.222.227 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:39:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:39:34 -0600 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:39:35 -0000 Dear kind folks, I am getting more and more as to what is needed to keeping a system running in optimum conditions(updating ports & userland too). I was just updating ports, but neglecting the new userland tools & kernels. I have successfully run make buildworld & make installworld, and the steps to run newer userland + kernel. Also one can use freebsd-update fetch & freebsd-update install and it will install binary updates(avoid compiling). I have done this on my 8.2 amd64 machines, but somehow the finished command says that it is ready to run 8.2-RELEASE-p6, but I reboot and am still in 8.2-RELEASE-p3. Is there a way to do it, other than doing it from source(es)? through freebsd-update utitlity? I don't understand some suggestions in forum thread: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28510 I had gotten the error message: Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No such file or directory done. and overcame it with # mkdir -p /usr/src/lib/libc/gen and rerunning freebsd-update fetch and freebsd-update install but rebooting still gives -p3 kernel: [olivares@quadcore ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD quadcore.home 8.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:45:57 UTC 2011 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [olivares@quadcore ~]$ uname -r 8.2-RELEASE-p3 [olivares@quadcore ~]$ su - Password: quadcore# freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from update4.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files are affected by updates, but no changes have been downloaded because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/mergemaster.mtree No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6. quadcore# freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. quadcore# freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files are affected by updates, but no changes have been downloaded because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/mergemaster.mtree No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6. As always I thank all users for advice/suggestions/comments. I have been bailed out of many problems and am thankful to FreeBSD community. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 02:06:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8449106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E18FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:06:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so8041438iae.13 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 10.50.159.161 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.159.161; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 10.50.159.161 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=olivares14031@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=olivares14031@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.159.161]) by 10.50.159.161 with SMTP id xd1mr5261471igb.15.1329617191335 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N6a1mQYlpZn4zarhPfS6kumczFzNuntZLw8b+7jAj/0=; b=UJR47i1NFHB0DuuojdH10q03Kt1ycvvg7Gx+ss2H/yMxpUX15Gmv/8pWZ7c+Ee2OXV 6cg0Xm9s3sn8LKsC9RZ+wTA0gDUosNgzrDorfFp4l/XrHDLENNbw5LOJsfXA8b2KQeYV n/UOLbRzkyuJQpf1hKQFOmNsP+SpTZtVNOmog= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.159.161 with SMTP id xd1mr4268032igb.15.1329617191217; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.222.227 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:06:31 -0600 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:06:32 -0000 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Robert Bonomi w= rote: > > Antonio, > =A0The 'upgrade' from _P5_ to P6 did not touch the kernel, hence the kern= el ID > did not change. > > =A0Going from P3 =A0you should have seen a kernel update. > > =A0what do you see if you do "strings /boot/kernel/kernel |grep 8" It is a big file so I'll paste it to pastebin temporarily: http://pastebin.com/K1PsTa0P Thanks, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 02:34:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0262B106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93CE8FC15 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q1J2Ut8w034584; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:30:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q1J2UtPB034583; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:30:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:30:55 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20120219023055.GA34544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <4F3F8672.3090805@my.gd> <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:34:42 -0000 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 08:03:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even > > suggest just two choices. > > > yes, three options is ok. > > > [ ] all in one + swap > > Create one partition containing all subtrees > > plus one swap partition. > > > > [ ] user-defined > > Make your own partitioning selection manually. > > (Both number and size of partitions) > > with a reasonable way to specify partitions and sizes. > > The old Sysinstall way is not bad, but if it obsolete, > > then something as easy that fits the new GPT based system. > > > A normal user will use the first option here and get screwed when the file system got affected by a power failure. The second option is not an option for a general user. > > > But, that middle choice that Polytropon suggested is OK to include > > if you think it is needed. /, /tmp, /usr, /var, [/home] +swap > > Yes, I strong urge you to leave this at least as an option. > Just with a larger / slice of 1 or better 2GB. > > > > I don't see that this plan adds any significant complication or confusion. > > Nor does it prevent any of the schemes people have been advocating or > > requesting. > > You seem to forget normal users who just want to use the system. > They do not think of recovery until it actually happens. We forgot nothing. They can just select option 1 and then later when something happens so learn otherwise, if they ever do, they will have option 3 to more specifically build their system according to their newly perceived needs. ////jerry > > Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 02:37:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ECE1065670 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FC08FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FFB5C28 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:50:57 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 390515C22 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:50:57 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F405F4A.3080309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: webcamd and device numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:37:31 -0000 I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and ask for some help :) I have (I believe I have mentioned this before) 5 dvb tuners in a FreeBSD server (8.2): 1 cx88, 2 DiVico dual tuners (that totals 4 amongst just the DiVico's). I'm using webcamd to use these (thank God I can get away from Linux!), and they work fine except I have to run ln -s to link them to the right places after every reboot (Only the Divico's use webcamd). So they should look like this: $ls /dev/dvb/ adapter0 adapter1 adapter2 adapter3 instead: ls /dev/dvb/ adapter0 adapter16 adapter24 adapter8 This is a real problem because 1. MPlayer only accepts 0-4, and 2. GStreamer (including xine) only accept 1-16. I tried working out how to resolve the issue any sane way; and then I resorted to some quick hacks. I tried uding devfs.rules for links before I found out it can't do that at all. devfs.conf is no good, as it sets them up to begin with. And running some commands in rc.local didn't work: `ln -s /dev/dvb/adapter8 /dev/dvb/adapter1` and so forth. I googled and googled and there seem to be no real fix as webcamd won't work without hal and relies on it for the numbering (but borks it continuously). I've tried updates and so forth, but all to no avail. I'm not too worried about a permanent fix because hal's death bells have tolled, but I do need to fix this as it is really getting annoying now - the server is on continuously but can go down from time to time and catches the unwary :) (like when a scheduled recording which requires say adapter1 finds it no longer there) I'm using webcamd-3.2.0.2, which I recently updated. Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 01:30:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9970106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F538FC16 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1J13gin025209; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:03:44 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:03:39 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <4F3F8672.3090805@my.gd> <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:54:49 +0000 Cc: Jerry McAllister , Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:30:41 -0000 Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > > So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even > suggest just two choices. > yes, three options is ok. > [ ] all in one + swap > Create one partition containing all subtrees > plus one swap partition. > > [ ] user-defined > Make your own partitioning selection manually. > (Both number and size of partitions) > with a reasonable way to specify partitions and sizes. > The old Sysinstall way is not bad, but if it obsolete, > then something as easy that fits the new GPT based system. > A normal user will use the first option here and get screwed when the file system got affected by a power failure. The second option is not an option for a general user. > But, that middle choice that Polytropon suggested is OK to include > if you think it is needed. /, /tmp, /usr, /var, [/home] +swap Yes, I strong urge you to leave this at least as an option. Just with a larger / slice of 1 or better 2GB. > > I don't see that this plan adds any significant complication or confusion. > Nor does it prevent any of the schemes people have been advocating or > requesting. You seem to forget normal users who just want to use the system. They do not think of recovery until it actually happens. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 03:41:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB121065673 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF358FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbgn7 with SMTP id gn7so2312829wgb.1 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gobble.wa@gmail.com designates 10.180.83.97 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.83.97; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gobble.wa@gmail.com designates 10.180.83.97 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gobble.wa@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=gobble.wa@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.83.97]) by 10.180.83.97 with SMTP id p1mr7289377wiy.19.1329622872592 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:41:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Sxhh7AoaH19122EJtm1n5iAyjjVfsQpVIfIFuVDFiZQ=; b=eKMm3ZNy6eJevz1srJvos0pim6r5PSzFCgqt7KgtGY7pHpkJ2n72Xa3xkV+Fc9OHru PurTuv+EV/3rZ7eFhCqHK86bLNSLgb5rtS1mtiFSy2Luu0SfPhCnR/61Vaw8pe+xCJkg LD5i324OnaMG3Yuan4aS312Nc2fNv0/zaNpS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.97 with SMTP id p1mr6129941wiy.19.1329622872541; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.235.139 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:41:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F405F4A.3080309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4F405F4A.3080309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:41:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: webcamd and device numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:41:13 -0000 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Da Rock < freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was > determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and > ask for some help :) > > I have (I believe I have mentioned this before) 5 dvb tuners in a FreeBSD > server (8.2): 1 cx88, 2 DiVico dual tuners (that totals 4 amongst just the > DiVico's). I'm using webcamd to use these (thank God I can get away from > Linux!), and they work fine except I have to run ln -s to link them to the > right places after every reboot (Only the Divico's use webcamd). So they > should look like this: > > $ls /dev/dvb/ > adapter0 adapter1 adapter2 adapter3 > > instead: > > ls /dev/dvb/ > adapter0 adapter16 adapter24 adapter8 > > This is a real problem because 1. MPlayer only accepts 0-4, and 2. > GStreamer (including xine) only accept 1-16. > > I tried working out how to resolve the issue any sane way; and then I > resorted to some quick hacks. I tried uding devfs.rules for links before I > found out it can't do that at all. devfs.conf is no good, as it sets them > up to begin with. And running some commands in rc.local didn't work: `ln -s > /dev/dvb/adapter8 /dev/dvb/adapter1` and so forth. > > I googled and googled and there seem to be no real fix as webcamd won't > work without hal and relies on it for the numbering (but borks it > continuously). I've tried updates and so forth, but all to no avail. I'm > not too worried about a permanent fix because hal's death bells have > tolled, but I do need to fix this as it is really getting annoying now - > the server is on continuously but can go down from time to time and catches > the unwary :) (like when a scheduled recording which requires say adapter1 > finds it no longer there) > > I'm using webcamd-3.2.0.2, which I recently updated. > > Cheers > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > Hi, maybe cron job that runs once a minute and checks/fixes? maybe overkill but probably not noticeable to system performance,... . Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 03:55:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABD9106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246DD8FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1J3t8ZF031731; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:55:13 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:55:01 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120219023055.GA34544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20120219023055.GA34544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202191055.02035.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:00:28 +0000 Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:55:15 -0000 Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 09:30:55 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 08:03:39AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > > > So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even > > > suggest just two choices. > > > > > yes, three options is ok. > > > > > [ ] all in one + swap > > > Create one partition containing all subtrees > > > plus one swap partition. > > > > > > [ ] user-defined > > > Make your own partitioning selection manually. > > > (Both number and size of partitions) > > > with a reasonable way to specify partitions and sizes. > > > The old Sysinstall way is not bad, but if it obsolete, > > > then something as easy that fits the new GPT based system. > > > > > A normal user will use the first option here and get screwed when the file system got affected by a power failure. The second option is not an option for a general user. > > > > > But, that middle choice that Polytropon suggested is OK to include > > > if you think it is needed. /, /tmp, /usr, /var, [/home] +swap > > > > Yes, I strong urge you to leave this at least as an option. > > Just with a larger / slice of 1 or better 2GB. > > > > > > I don't see that this plan adds any significant complication or confusion. > > > Nor does it prevent any of the schemes people have been advocating or > > > requesting. > > > > You seem to forget normal users who just want to use the system. > > They do not think of recovery until it actually happens. > > We forgot nothing. They can just select option 1 and then later > when something happens so learn otherwise, if they ever do, they > will have option 3 to more specifically build their system according > to their newly perceived needs. where do they get the knowledge from? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 04:42:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A9D106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0C88FC14 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F495C28; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:56:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE33E5C22; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:56:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F407C9D.2050309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:37:49 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi , FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201202190316.q1J3Gxbj081369@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201202190316.q1J3Gxbj081369@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: webcamd and device numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:42:39 -0000 On 02/19/12 13:16, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 20:42:50 2012 >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +1000 >> From: Da Rock >> To: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: webcamd and device numbering >> >> I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was >> determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and >> ask for some help :) >> >> I have (I believe I have mentioned this before) 5 dvb tuners in a >> FreeBSD server (8.2): 1 cx88, 2 DiVico dual tuners (that totals 4 >> amongst just the DiVico's). I'm using webcamd to use these (thank God I >> can get away from Linux!), and they work fine except I have to run ln -s >> to link them to the right places after every reboot (Only the Divico's >> use webcamd). So they should look like this: >> >> $ls /dev/dvb/ >> adapter0 adapter1 adapter2 adapter3 >> >> instead: >> >> ls /dev/dvb/ >> adapter0 adapter16 adapter24 adapter8 >> > At least a couple of ways to approach this. > 1) (a bad idea, but simple) wrap 'webcamd' in a script that makes the > symlinks before invoking the actual executable. I don't think that will work because webcamd does the actually device attach itself. Putting in the symlinks first _cant_ happen because there is nothing to link to. > 2) look at devd.conf(5) and add stuff there to create the links for {1,2,3} Again, same problem. webcamd does the work there to attach the devices - but it uses hal to notify and obtain the numbering. I haven't found a way to turn this off as yet. Originally I don't think it used hal at all, somewhere along the line they decided to make inextricable. I may be stuck with the cron job :/ I wonder if I can get it to just happen at boot... my spidey senses are tingling. I'll have to remember where I saw that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 04:45:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2292106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572948FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20120219044554131 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:45:54 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from birch.localnet (unknown [207.55.106.132]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 68D15460785 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by birch.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67655B5D for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCB7C8F3 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q1J4jpJe054736; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:40:22 -0800 References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <4F3F8672.3090805@my.gd> <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <87wr7j1lds.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:45:55 -0000 Erich Dollansky writes: > Hi, > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >> > >> >> So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even >> suggest just two choices. >> > yes, three options is ok. > >> [ ] all in one + swap >> Create one partition containing all subtrees >> plus one swap partition. >> >> [ ] user-defined >> Make your own partitioning selection manually. >> (Both number and size of partitions) >> with a reasonable way to specify partitions and sizes. >> The old Sysinstall way is not bad, but if it obsolete, >> then something as easy that fits the new GPT based system. >> > A normal user will use the first option here and get screwed when the > file system got affected by a power failure. The second option is not > an option for a general user. What will happen in the case of a power failure? I just see an fsck when that happens, and I have been running unix and linux for about 20 years. I have always had multiple partitions in the past, but for 9.0 I went with the single partition. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 04:59:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C64C106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielsh@apache.org) Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB7328FC0C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 89364 invoked by uid 99); 19 Feb 2012 04:59:33 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daniel3.local) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username danielsh, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:33 +0000 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:59:18 +0200 From: Daniel Shahaf To: George Kontostanos Message-ID: <20120219045918.GA29638@daniel3.local> References: <20120214044816.GA18161@daniel3.local> <20120215003110.GA32543@daniel3.local> <20120215174811.GA14636@daniel3.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zroot won't mount after 9.0-RC2 -> 9.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:35 -0000 To follow-up, testkernel mounted fine using the procedure from loader.4th(8): set kernel=testkernel unload boot-conf And the OS upgrade is now done, after a few more tweaks have been ironed out (the most interesting of them is a difference between /boot/testkernel and /boot/kernel, which were supposedly generated by the same 'make' command some time apart). Thanks again for the suggestions, all. Daniel George Kontostanos wrote on Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 20:03:14 +0200: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > So far we've tried: > > > > - 'gpart bootcode -b' > > - load geom_part_gpt.ko > > - using zpool.cache from the 9.0-RELEASE CD > > > > And none of that seems to have had any effect. > > > > Additional info: from the CD environment, 'zpool import' reports an old > > 'tank' pool on devices mfid[2-5].  (The 'zroot' pool uses mfid[0-5]p3.) > > > > Any further ideas, please? > > > > Thanks for all the suggestions so far. > > You are running ZFS version 4 while the default is 5 on 9.0-RELEASE > > ---> Assuming your pool is called zroot > --->This is the way to update your zpool.cache: <--- > > Boot with 9.0-RELEASE and proceed with: > > #zpool import -o altroot=/mnt -o cachefile=/var/tmp/zpool.cache zroot > > #zfs set mountpoint=/mnt zroot > #zfs set mountpoint=/mnt/usr zroot/usr > #zfs set mountpoint=/mnt/var zroot/var > #zfs set mountpoint=/mnt/tmp zroot/tmp > > ## Ignore any warnings## > > Now export the pool: > > #zpool export -f zroot > > Import the pool back and update the zpool.cache: > > #zpool import -o cachefile=/var/tmp/zpool.cache zroot > #cp /var/tmp/zpool.cache /mnt/boot/zfs/zpool.cache > > Make sure that bootfs is set correctly: > > #zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot > > Now, unmount any ZFS datasets > > #zfs umount -af > > And fix mountpoints: > > #zfs set mountpoint=legacy zroot > #zfs set mountpoint=/tmp zroot/tmp > #zfs set mountpoint=/usr zroot/usr > #zfs set mountpoint=/var zroot/var > > That should be enough to update your zpool.cache > > If this still doesn't work then you can upgrade your ZFS version to 5. > > Make sure you have backups first!!! > > Before unmounting your datasets issue a: > > zfs upgrade -a > > -- > George Kontostanos > Aicom telecoms ltd > http://www.aisecure.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 05:26:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850A4106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4A98FC0C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1J5Qohu022358; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:26:52 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:46 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <87wr7j1lds.fsf@oak.localnet> In-Reply-To: <87wr7j1lds.fsf@oak.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202191226.47196.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Carl Johnson Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:26:54 -0000 Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 11:40:22 Carl Johnson wrote: > Erich Dollansky writes: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even > >> suggest just two choices. > >> > > yes, three options is ok. > > > >> [ ] all in one + swap > >> Create one partition containing all subtrees > >> plus one swap partition. > >> > >> [ ] user-defined > >> Make your own partitioning selection manually. > >> (Both number and size of partitions) > >> with a reasonable way to specify partitions and sizes. > >> The old Sysinstall way is not bad, but if it obsolete, > >> then something as easy that fits the new GPT based system. > >> > > A normal user will use the first option here and get screwed when the > > file system got affected by a power failure. The second option is not > > an option for a general user. > > What will happen in the case of a power failure? I just see an fsck > when that happens, and I have been running unix and linux for about 20 > years. I have always had multiple partitions in the past, but for 9.0 I > went with the single partition. it will not even boot if there is only a single slice with root and the rest on it if the background fsck cannot be run. I have to go to real remote locations once in a while where an USP is not of real help anymore as the USP is not able to charge its battery before the next power failure comes. It happened there some times that the /usr slice needs a foreground check. Of course, all can be fixed. I cannot imagine that this would still work if / is on the same slice as the rest of the data. Of course, these are rare things but with the other standards of FreeBSD in mind, I would keep at least the visible option there so people are obviously made aware that there is something to consider. What will beginners do when they are not able to restart their machine? Take a pirated Windows CD and go back to the other trouble maker as there was no difference for them. Of course, people like you and me would need this option only to safe a bit of time. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 05:41:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961A5106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAD48FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbgn7 with SMTP id gn7so2342202wgb.1 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gobble.wa@gmail.com designates 10.180.94.68 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.94.68; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gobble.wa@gmail.com designates 10.180.94.68 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gobble.wa@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=gobble.wa@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.94.68]) by 10.180.94.68 with SMTP id da4mr7726514wib.22.1329630078120 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:41:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pypjNkP1HVMOdKYTzYNc+S5uVJ6smYXl/51V9sz1eqg=; b=t2zMOsc8UvsG56UmpjfvEzoSQA4oorEQcNtthaf1Id1sr+9qC+nGx3JOw+8gaAPchb ENrxYmz8KCt73EEyLjT8d/ABe85c4LK0x3uUq3cuOylzqagtHZ/ep+bp8ifTSZuRBnSX GHzXoI68pEUEjJuSG0fRTHLFwDk739rLiJFpg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.94.68 with SMTP id da4mr6524914wib.22.1329630078066; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.235.139 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:41:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F407C9D.2050309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <201202190316.q1J3Gxbj081369@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F407C9D.2050309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:41:18 -0800 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: webcamd and device numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:41:19 -0000 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Da Rock < freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > On 02/19/12 13:16, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> From owner-freebsd-questions@**freebsd.org Sat Feb 18 20:42:50 2012 >>> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +1000 >>> From: Da Rock >>> > >>> To: FreeBSD Questions >>> > >>> Subject: webcamd and device numbering >>> >>> >>> I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was >>> determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and >>> ask for some help :) >>> >>> I have (I believe I have mentioned this before) 5 dvb tuners in a >>> FreeBSD server (8.2): 1 cx88, 2 DiVico dual tuners (that totals 4 >>> amongst just the DiVico's). I'm using webcamd to use these (thank God I >>> can get away from Linux!), and they work fine except I have to run ln -s >>> to link them to the right places after every reboot (Only the Divico's >>> use webcamd). So they should look like this: >>> >>> $ls /dev/dvb/ >>> adapter0 adapter1 adapter2 adapter3 >>> >>> instead: >>> >>> ls /dev/dvb/ >>> adapter0 adapter16 adapter24 adapter8 >>> >>> At least a couple of ways to approach this. >> 1) (a bad idea, but simple) wrap 'webcamd' in a script that makes the >> symlinks before invoking the actual executable. >> > I don't think that will work because webcamd does the actually device > attach itself. Putting in the symlinks first _cant_ happen because there is > nothing to link to. > >> 2) look at devd.conf(5) and add stuff there to create the links for >> {1,2,3} >> > Again, same problem. webcamd does the work there to attach the devices - > but it uses hal to notify and obtain the numbering. I haven't found a way > to turn this off as yet. Originally I don't think it used hal at all, > somewhere along the line they decided to make inextricable. > > I may be stuck with the cron job :/ I wonder if I can get it to just > happen at boot... my spidey senses are tingling. I'll have to remember > where I saw that. > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > I agree it's a crappy solution, (at least?) in principal. I had a drive that stubbornly refused to mount at boot, a weird harold situation and you know - like you want to throw the freaking thing out the window.. check/mount on cron was a band-aid approach, it worked. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 07:51:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C651065672 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sclists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f47.google.com (mail-qw0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44EB8FC14 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadz30 with SMTP id z30so2466101qad.13 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of sclists@gmail.com designates 10.229.137.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.229.137.18; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of sclists@gmail.com designates 10.229.137.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=sclists@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=sclists@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.229.137.18]) by 10.229.137.18 with SMTP id u18mr11636842qct.153.1329637900010 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:51:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I5ZhPGGO5bDIVE3IxcCJDEDyyusnEgOxMwkWGQ/nR4I=; b=FNctew4XBUHl8Lc1C+7Qy94iEziWQIhAciDUZw79JV9x42au60Sf2NVaMLpDg0Pzo3 /w7Z+Ikon1W0V79ehYGPIcIFjWVg1v9C6sIMTAqg14dsh5ySVX2BiKRH5C0vhpuefczp /fbPf39tZbUP7YMZxV/yiKajyMeMS9pI2Baxs= Received: by 10.229.137.18 with SMTP id u18mr9833365qct.153.1329636125862; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ool-182c6755.dyn.optonline.net. [24.44.103.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hi8sm39528964qab.3.2012.02.18.23.22.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:22:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F40A324.5090103@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:22:12 -0500 From: Stephen Cook User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <4F3F8672.3090805@my.gd> <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> In-Reply-To: <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:51:41 -0000 On 2/18/2012 8:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even >> suggest just two choices. > A normal user will use the first option here and get screwed when the file system got affected by a power failure. The second option is not an option for a general user. >> But, that middle choice that Polytropon suggested is OK to include >> if you think it is needed. /, /tmp, /usr, /var, [/home] +swap > Yes, I strong urge you to leave this at least as an option. Just with a larger / slice of 1 or better 2GB. >> I don't see that this plan adds any significant complication or confusion. >> Nor does it prevent any of the schemes people have been advocating or >> requesting. > You seem to forget normal users who just want to use the system. They do not think of recovery until it actually happens. I don't know if I count as a *normal* user but here's my two cents: Some of you think it isn't a good idea to put everything on one partition. I'm not yet ready to manually set them up. Every time I get into it I read tens of articles and blogs and they all boil down to "it depends". So some middle-ground "this guy is willing to learn but can't set it up optimally, and doesn't want a bad config because he is still somewhat confused" option should be available, and possibly labeled as such. -- Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 08:57:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F59106566C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775938FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:57:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=n7r5O3Uz2CZ0dzewj/yLmywXUzcreV6/FyBmH6kgwSM=; b=HwAIbTU76iNyVXDhjpbrUilK3+s+cz0r97JVY5Q1kM8H50/lybIE2TjUHEqfui4AybVQfwXp2bmmtC105jiaLwLeItsg/E6G1pDS4BE4VmP565OTeHoWC56BsPuda3BJMObe2Vk5yTE91Z9I5c3WNL2XgZXd3MSNvPoS5h+WVMM= Received: from [192.168.1.125] ([120.29.64.34]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:57:17 -0800 Message-ID: <4F40B964.3000605@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:57:08 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mirror-admin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Feb 2012 08:57:17.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B4A1AB0:01CCEEE4] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: 9.0 base.txz ftp download time out X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:57:17 -0000 I have a scripted ftp download for 8.x and 9.0 distribution files. Yes I have the correct paths. When I target 8.x releases it downloads the multiple distribution files. To get the complete group takes about 20 minutes and ends cleanly. But when I try to fetch the 9.0 base.txz file it says 100% completed and then times out. It also runs about 20 minutes just to download the single file. I do get the base.txz file downloaded but it ends uncleanly saying it timed out. All the mirrors issue standard login messages saying there are restrictions in effect. My question is there some restriction about time allowed per file downloaded? And now that the layout of the 9.0 distribution files has changed to a large file compared to many small files in a directory as for 8.0 is this causing the base.txz file download to time out? IE: does the ftp restrictions need to be changed for the new 9.0 distribution file? Here is log of my ftp run. 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. prompt off Interactive mode off. cd /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/i386/9.0-RELEASE 250 CWD command successful epsv4 off EPSV/EPRT on IPv4 off. mreget base.txz doc.txz local: base.txz remote: base.txz 227 Entering Passive Mode (137,189,4,14,221,218). 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for base.txz (54107736 bytes) 100% |***********************************| 52839 KiB 42.93 KiB/s 00:00 ETA 421 Service not available, remote server timed out. Connection closed. 54107736 bytes received in 21:30 (40.93 KiB/s) ftp: No control connection for command From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 10:23:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6640E106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:23:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21CD8FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1JAN4G9077827 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:23:05 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1JAN4G9077827 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329646985; bh=rpszTnhMQe/kq4T5clqIfgtTh68zcltNPOO4AL2lrdw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=Ah5bU8dmwig4t5H2MLWsK2UKq3icHMnkvGKY1LjMQQLW7F2E3ZcLfGx8EBiT6c2cf VrWE/QTHYp2JdZ5QTf5O1ErpbflhVJyTGFWWNYGg3wwrBejeHSTrcJZwmveMDD53RQ NPkM3QcP8ha0eAeOPDVqYxttzdsTOSJi5htTRv7o= Message-ID: <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:22:57 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig28B02A17AC54AFF48A34EA84" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:23:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig28B02A17AC54AFF48A34EA84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/02/2012 02:06, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> >> Antonio, >> The 'upgrade' from _P5_ to P6 did not touch the kernel, hence the ker= nel ID >> did not change. >> >> Going from P3 you should have seen a kernel update. >> >> what do you see if you do "strings /boot/kernel/kernel |grep 8" >=20 > It is a big file so I'll paste it to pastebin temporarily: >=20 > http://pastebin.com/K1PsTa0P Heh. The interesting bit is on line 4301 -- the last line of that output. A slightly more selective grep term would have been a good idea.= Anyhow, that shows the kernel on your system is 8.2-RELEASE-p3. Which implies that something ain't right somewhere. Four possibilities, roughly in order of severity: 1) None of the security patches between p3 and p6 did actually touch the kernel. You can tell if this was the case by looking at the list of modified files in the security advisory. The kernel is affected if any files under sys have been modified other than src/sys/conf/newvers.sh The last advisory that did touch the kernel was http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix.asc which should have given you 8.2-RELEASE-p4. However -- see below. 2) An oversight in the freebsd-update process upstream meaning that the operational patches were applied, but not the changes to the kernel version number when the replacement kernel was compiled. Unlikely, as newvers.sh is always updated on each of the security branches even if the update doesn't touch the kernel. 3) You've told freebsd-update not to touch your kernel. Unlikely, and not in the default config, but useful where people need to use a custom kernel and maintain the rest of the system with freebsd-update. In this case, you'ld have modified /etc/freebsd-update.conf to change: Components src world kernel to read: Components src world Also you should be expecting to have to rebuild your kernel from sources, so I doubt this is the case. 4) The kernel wasn't patched properly and hasn't been updated and you're still vulnerable. Now, I believe that in fact the situation is in fact as described in option (1) -- none of the patches since p3 have touched the kernel distributed through freebsd-update. (2) and (4) can be discounted -- if such egregious mistakes had been made, they would long ago have been noticed and corrected. Here is the thing I alluded to under option (1). The security patch for the unix domain socket problem came out in two chunks. There was an original patch to fix the actual security problem, then a later followup patch to fix a bug that exposed in the linux emulation layer. It is possible to tell this from the text of the advisory as it exists at the moment, but you might not see it unless you are looking for it. The important bit of text is this: NOTE: The patch distributed at the time of the original advisory fixed the security vulnerability but exposed the pre-existing bug in the linux emulation subsystem. Systems to which the original patch was applied should be patched with the following corrective patch, which contains only the additional changes required to fix the newly- exposed linux emulation bug: Given that the second part of the patch was actually not a security fix, there would not have been a modified kernel distributed. So you got a bundle of three advisories issued together on 2011-09-28 resulting in FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3. Then later on, at 2011-10-04 a further update was issued modifying FreeBSD-SA-11:05-unix and technically taking the system to FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4. However, as this was not a security fix, it was not applied to the freebsd-update distribution channel. As none of the updates since then have touched the kernel, it will still show -p3 even though you are in fact fully patched against all known security problems. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig28B02A17AC54AFF48A34EA84 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9AzYgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzHkwCeKvZ4L554QQufOFFk3xgRXj4m WpgAn2D4Gyl/7Ca3c6tmCm8lHpP2Xzdu =vBWp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig28B02A17AC54AFF48A34EA84-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 10:28:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBCB1065740 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB53A8FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rz40Y-0003d7-IM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:28:42 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:28:42 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:28:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 25 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: ps output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:46 -0000 Hi, It's fb9-release. Why the other ps entries do not display cron ? $ top ... PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1897 root 1 20 0 9644K 1208K nanslp 0 0:03 0.00% cron ... $ ps -ax |grep cron 1897 ?? 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:18:02 -0000 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 19/02/2012 02:06, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>> >>> Antonio, >>> =A0The 'upgrade' from _P5_ to P6 did not touch the kernel, hence the ke= rnel ID >>> did not change. >>> >>> =A0Going from P3 =A0you should have seen a kernel update. >>> >>> =A0what do you see if you do "strings /boot/kernel/kernel |grep 8" >> >> It is a big file so I'll paste it to pastebin temporarily: >> >> http://pastebin.com/K1PsTa0P > > Heh. =A0The interesting bit is on line 4301 -- the last line of that > output. =A0A slightly more selective grep term would have been a good ide= a. > > Anyhow, that shows the kernel on your system is 8.2-RELEASE-p3. =A0Which > implies that something ain't right somewhere. > > Four possibilities, roughly in order of severity: > > =A0 1) None of the security patches between p3 and p6 did actually > =A0 =A0 =A0touch the kernel. =A0You can tell if this was the case by look= ing > =A0 =A0 =A0at the list of modified files in the security advisory. =A0The > =A0 =A0 =A0kernel is affected if any files under sys have been > =A0 =A0 =A0modified other than src/sys/conf/newvers.sh > > =A0 =A0 =A0The last advisory that did touch the kernel was > =A0 =A0 =A0http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix.a= sc > > =A0 =A0 =A0which should have given you 8.2-RELEASE-p4. =A0However -- see > =A0 =A0 =A0below. > > =A0 2) An oversight in the freebsd-update process upstream meaning that > =A0 =A0 =A0the operational patches were applied, but not the changes to t= he > =A0 =A0 =A0kernel version number when the replacement kernel was compiled= . > =A0 =A0 =A0Unlikely, as newvers.sh is always updated on each of the secur= ity > =A0 =A0 =A0branches even if the update doesn't touch the kernel. > > =A0 3) You've told freebsd-update not to touch your kernel. =A0Unlikely, > =A0 =A0 =A0and not in the default config, but useful where people need to > =A0 =A0 =A0use a custom kernel and maintain the rest of the system with > =A0 =A0 =A0freebsd-update. > > =A0 =A0 =A0In this case, you'ld have modified /etc/freebsd-update.conf to > =A0 =A0 =A0change: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Components src world kernel > > =A0 =A0 =A0to read: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Components src world > > =A0 =A0 =A0Also you should be expecting to have to rebuild your kernel fr= om > =A0 =A0 =A0sources, so I doubt this is the case. /etc/freebsd-update.conf has: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dline 1 col 0 lines from top 1 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D # $FreeBSD: src/etc/freebsd-update.conf,v 1.6.2.2.6.1 2010/12/21 17:09:25 k= ensmi # Trusted keyprint. Changing this is a Bad Idea unless you've received # a PGP-signed email from telling you to # change it and explaining why. KeyPrint 800651ef4b4c71c27e60786d7b487188970f4b4169cc055784e21eb71d410cc5 # Server or server pool from which to fetch updates. You can change # this to point at a specific server if you want, but in most cases # using a "nearby" server won't provide a measurable improvement in # performance. ServerName update.FreeBSD.org # Components of the base system which should be kept updated. Components src world kernel ..... removed to save space .... > > =A0 4) The kernel wasn't patched properly and hasn't been updated and > =A0 =A0 =A0you're still vulnerable. > > Now, I believe that in fact the situation is in fact as described in > option (1) -- none of the patches since p3 have touched the kernel > distributed through freebsd-update. =A0(2) and (4) can be discounted -- i= f > such egregious mistakes had been made, they would long ago have been > noticed and corrected. > > Here is the thing I alluded to under option (1). =A0The security patch fo= r > the unix domain socket problem came out in two chunks. =A0There was an > original patch to fix the actual security problem, then a later followup > patch to fix a bug that exposed in the linux emulation layer. =A0It is > possible to tell this from the text of the advisory as it exists at the > moment, but you might not see it unless you are looking for it. =A0The > important bit of text is this: > > =A0NOTE: The patch distributed at the time of the original advisory fixed > =A0the security vulnerability but exposed the pre-existing bug in the > =A0linux emulation subsystem. =A0Systems to which the original patch was > =A0applied should be patched with the following corrective patch, which > =A0contains only the additional changes required to fix the newly- > =A0exposed linux emulation bug: > > Given that the second part of the patch was actually not a security fix, > there would not have been a modified kernel distributed. =A0So you got a > bundle of three advisories issued together on 2011-09-28 resulting in > FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3. =A0Then later on, at 2011-10-04 a further update > was issued modifying FreeBSD-SA-11:05-unix and technically taking the > system to FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4. =A0However, as this was not a security > fix, it was not applied to the freebsd-update distribution channel. =A0As > none of the updates since then have touched the kernel, it will still > show -p3 even though you are in fact fully patched against all known > security problems. I hope this is the case, but that -p3 makes me think? I am hesistant to move to 9.0-RELEASE as of yet. There will apparently be an 8.3-RELEASE and I am not sure whether I have to rebuild all ports if I update to newer release. I have read some places that one does not have to rebuild all ports, and just install compat8.x/ special port. In FreeBSD Handbook, it still recommends to rebuild all ports. It took me a while to get going last time I moved from 8.1-RELEASE to 8.2-RELEASE, so I am hesistant to do it :( And not being sure about this, I am in the thinking process of what should I do. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7 Pri= ory Courtyard > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey =A0 =A0 Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Kent, CT1= 1 9PW > Thank you very much for your kind explanation and hopefully I am in the (4) category. How does one know when a new 8.2-RELEASE-pX, has been released? where X is a number >=3D 6? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 12:01:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3F81065674 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DE78FC1A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1JC0nfW031044; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:01:05 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:54:47 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202191854.48023.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:01:17 -0000 Hi, On Sunday 19 February 2012 18:17:59 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I hope this is the case, but that -p3 makes me think? I am hesistant > to move to 9.0-RELEASE as of yet. There will apparently be an > 8.3-RELEASE and I am not sure whether I have to rebuild all ports if I you could adapt my strategy. Stay with 8 until 10 appears at the scene. You will have support for 8.x until 10.0 will be available. There is no need for you to switch to 9.x at all. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 12:44:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261301065672 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B0C8FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so3792783wib.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.104.4; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rwmaillists@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rwmaillists@googlemail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.104.4]) by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr10806123wib.17.1329655476761 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:44:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ind+CCSSHTelWnBBmCKTQImq4FKnO3/vaIY3/WTKo9A=; b=KFhgP+Sc7BmBhoKiRt3per/sFt5w8deeBxAmZ/ua9vqz5Qz2ERSjzUtxzjX4OJLatS fCIc0LJDT5htOYQaytXc+a21dzmq856qhlCnZGIpbfHD1NIhNyFN/5Rc/PYukRZUwF44 XvXq66HpkrNwGg+0OQTLXMK6FJDj/77sfKvUo= Received: by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr9140492wib.17.1329655476735; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm9442076wic.0.2012.02.19.04.44.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:44:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:44:33 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120219124433.5a297d0f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ps output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:44:38 -0000 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:29 +0000 (UTC) jb wrote: > Hi, > > It's fb9-release. > > Why the other ps entries do not display cron ? > > $ top > ... > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > COMMAND 1897 root 1 20 0 9644K 1208K nanslp 0 0:03 > 0.00% cron ... > > $ ps -ax |grep cron > 1897 ?? Is 0:03.16 /usr/sbin/cron -s > 62278 1 S+ 0:00.01 grep cron > $ ps -a |grep cron > 62337 1 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron > $ ps -aux |grep cron > If you grep for cron's pid instead of "cron" you'll see that the command is truncated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 12:59:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869EA106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C20C8FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so4312095wer.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.102.35 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.102.35; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.102.35 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rwmaillists@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rwmaillists@googlemail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.102.35]) by 10.180.102.35 with SMTP id fl3mr9511541wib.22.1329656343927 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x/lAqNL5JhEHCzH3+HB8ghPNqZQk4Dm6jMNe2uEng0A=; b=I4sgur5Q9f1UftzthmYNIg1XM30p7j3eni68jfMkzrNruWgOU8UPwRa0QaidDozgtQ 4NT8Qt9Y6W0hPHug/AZwTkiU2lj4HP5gubRZwz0HCBZHe+yYwzCKuZDO45L0zUzuLBnj zAfGXWS36hwFlgUDxlxYc2Q8zgHNm9vtKptn8= Received: by 10.180.102.35 with SMTP id fl3mr8003725wib.22.1329656343867; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id er8sm24188101wib.1.2012.02.19.04.59.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:59:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:59:00 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120219125900.37a08c5d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:59:05 -0000 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:22:57 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Four possibilities, roughly in order of severity: > > 1) None of the security patches between p3 and p6 did actually > touch the kernel. You can tell if this was the case by looking > at the list of modified files in the security advisory. The > kernel is affected if any files under sys have been > modified other than src/sys/conf/newvers.sh > > The last advisory that did touch the kernel was > http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix.asc > > which should have given you 8.2-RELEASE-p4. However -- see > below. But aren't all those changes the linux kernel module, rather than the kernel itself. I think 8.2-RELEASE-p3 looks OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 13:11:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A241065670 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153058FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228635E1D2; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:11:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.479 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.479 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.121, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id q6dCOYWttKmk; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:11:10 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from [172.17.0.140] (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CE35E1A8; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:11:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F40F4ED.4090704@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:11:09 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120219125900.37a08c5d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120219125900.37a08c5d@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:11:13 -0000 RW skrev 2012-02-19 13:59: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:22:57 +0000 > Matthew Seaman wrote: > > >> Four possibilities, roughly in order of severity: >> >> 1) None of the security patches between p3 and p6 did actually >> touch the kernel. You can tell if this was the case by looking >> at the list of modified files in the security advisory. The >> kernel is affected if any files under sys have been >> modified other than src/sys/conf/newvers.sh >> >> The last advisory that did touch the kernel was >> http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix.asc >> >> which should have given you 8.2-RELEASE-p4. However -- see >> below. > > But aren't all those changes the linux kernel module, rather than the > kernel itself. > > I think 8.2-RELEASE-p3 looks OK. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I don't know if it's the solution to your question but I asked the same a while back and the answer I got was that I had to recompile and install the kernel then you'll have p6 :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 13:25:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BF9106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D730D8FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so3810215wib.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.14.73 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.14.73; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.14.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rwmaillists@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rwmaillists@googlemail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.14.73]) by 10.180.14.73 with SMTP id n9mr9856230wic.16.1329657922861 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:25:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zYkV0gqiYziI+iZ5ia0aDgdSr+A9xWqbVMlOoCFjs+c=; b=wRqAp3a+NObdXjMZj3Rp20mj28ogG2k/uLCWSC0rFRts4RKHkxUL6oOvJvG6KJmEgT 2LziUDCB4dN33Zw2M4U5eOC22cVCylST54KgxxxPo4ODyeLY9OhQmdAt1dsa0yz18la6 SNVL4nOeGXwdlWQDCU/pG+Ol5pRYsbcPNP2cw= Received: by 10.180.14.73 with SMTP id n9mr8272403wic.16.1329657922825; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fl2sm24434462wib.4.2012.02.19.05.25.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:25:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:25:19 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120219132519.65e8b2c1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4F40F4ED.4090704@eskk.nu> References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120219125900.37a08c5d@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F40F4ED.4090704@eskk.nu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:25:24 -0000 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:11:09 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > I don't know if it's the solution to your question but I asked the > same a while back and the answer I got was that I had to recompile > and install the kernel then you'll have p6 :-) The only thing you gain by that is that uname reports p6, it's purely cosmetic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 14:20:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE59106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B248FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so8535021iae.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lumiwa@gmail.com designates 10.43.47.135 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.43.47.135; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lumiwa@gmail.com designates 10.43.47.135 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lumiwa@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=lumiwa@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.43.47.135]) by 10.43.47.135 with SMTP id us7mr19943186icb.29.1329661252804 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:20:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=pNIXpjLHrQLfpe5JW7M1qcl6HzyCJZ4nDdyGNm6Jd5s=; b=qPoCCrTnsk9B0KwxFfJiAE4aQDZe79OjFw6LF8eKFANyS7yM+VGKIuPNUsQNaJOte4 jRL2Dunm0cop25qJoCdN9OH8N5nCzZbj1/fQxYw439r8jYgw8tYFTwG3h5YGImcL6FYw 8i8Q3u9cCi7AstMY8Pm5o3g0n36k8FPm7XMT8= Received: by 10.43.47.135 with SMTP id us7mr15998713icb.29.1329661252063; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g34sm24068756ibk.10.2012.02.19.06.20.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:20:51 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:20:43 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202190820.43133.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: skype X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:20:53 -0000 Skype on my FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE and KDE 4.7.4 working but after five, sometimes more or less minutes is sound dead. I need to recall again... In /etc/rc.conf I have: linux_enable="YES" Thank you. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 14:22:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CAE106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9679F8FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1JEMbqe081538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:22:37 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1JEMbqe081538 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329661357; bh=ov8Wa6aUdQnm4+7ps6JNvDNoBxd4CXYC9Pff6aT8J1s=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=r0/6OUHzf+F62lIWJYXYb7c1OAhgLAbmg3U72GQePHiwVrRqSa+dpgeg+5SPcdQRp eCFjlrkr4kMtQ1EyfN5DgCJjFuKVgtWqCTN92EcJyeoJtgNgkpdN8Yd8zR/IFLGDTi fuzH9y01miBoI3ysYue0CVExulv01w5Ft47PaCJk= Message-ID: <4F4105A5.7050203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:22:29 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBA1D04D20FCB341889167B2E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:22:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBA1D04D20FCB341889167B2E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/02/2012 11:17, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I hope this is the case, but that -p3 makes me think? I am hesistant > to move to 9.0-RELEASE as of yet. There will apparently be an > 8.3-RELEASE and I am not sure whether I have to rebuild all ports if I > update to newer release. I have read some places that one does not > have to rebuild all ports, and just install compat8.x/ special port. > In FreeBSD Handbook, it still recommends to rebuild all ports. It > took me a while to get going last time I moved from 8.1-RELEASE to > 8.2-RELEASE, so I am hesistant to do it :( And not being sure about > this, I am in the thinking process of what should I do. If you upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 then you don't need to rebuild all your ports. There's a guarantee of ABI compatibility for all 8.x releases, meaning that with a very few exceptions, anything that runs on one 8.x version will run on any of them. The exceptions are programs that go grovelling into kernel memory -- lsof(8) is probably the only one most people will encounter. On the other hand, if you upgrade from 8.x to 9.0, then yes you will have to rebuild all your ports. If you install compat8x you can /run/ programs built for 8.x on 9.0, but you can't[*] upgrade or install a lot of programs that use shlibs from ports. Ultimately it is less hassle just to rebuild everything and be done with it. Cheers, Matthew [*] Well, unless you are a Unix guru and wize in the ways of the dynamic loader. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigBA1D04D20FCB341889167B2E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9BBawACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx73gCgisCU+FRUu1f/dS55E5N9RCMY is4Anjgs7Gp6hLRr3e/2j652VmHQn0ks =oNZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBA1D04D20FCB341889167B2E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 14:31:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4938106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EA38FC17 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBFAD4.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.250.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1JEUuAj048592; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:30:57 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1JEUgxB037870; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:30:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1JEUF9r074837; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:30:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202191430.q1JEUF9r074837@fire.js.berklix.net> To: david.robison@fisglobal.com From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:24:39 PST." <4F3EE1B7.5010905@fisglobal.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:30:15 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:31:05 -0000 "Robison, Dave" wrote: > On 02/17/2012 15:22, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > > >> Let the majority decide which layout is preferred for the default. > > No. Bad idea. Not on questions@, the list of the least clued up, > > the list raw beginners are referred to subscribe to. At least get > > a majority on hackers@ or current@ or arch@. Some answers one sees > > on questions@ are very good, but some are ... the other way. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Julian > > Actually, the discussion and ideas so far have been very interesting and > helpful. Beside the point: the Wrong list was posted to. questions@ list was created to help beginners, not to debate & invite votes to determine future design. FreeBSD lists have remits so people can read & write lists most tuned to interests. Tossing non beginner support topics in questions@ deprives other lists. Not all on hackers@ current@ & the many other list want to be on questions@ & vice versa. Please read list remits & subscribe & post most appropriate list per topic. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 16:06:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0A01065670 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02858FC15 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so8635766iae.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jrisom@gmail.com designates 10.42.144.196 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.42.144.196; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jrisom@gmail.com designates 10.42.144.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jrisom@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=jrisom@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.42.144.196]) by 10.42.144.196 with SMTP id c4mr17490935icv.39.1329667567377 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:06:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f4wkzKDyXFyuCSxL3pLwNkuvcBaXtzP4wSKjxXsuEpU=; b=JFI1wcq9HNw9iJoyAhe9yxMd1KRiHOa4PBOWYy8ODeNLNmpQ1hh5JCpxrLtPNc4r0y DZuHAfImZreGAeHiPyPGlD5xYzvUMN8PusoBSQ6bk89yUukjlDY+NI1ozAE3+nYnDu/N IdLDCqbaeSEnSDPGUqDsBshoh6qJlh22PUs+w= Received: by 10.42.144.196 with SMTP id c4mr13916981icv.39.1329667567334; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-197-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k3sm4535811igq.1.2012.02.19.08.06.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:06:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F411DDF.9020406@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:05:51 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120219124433.5a297d0f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120219124433.5a297d0f@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ps output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:06:08 -0000 On 2/19/2012 6:44 AM, RW wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:29 +0000 (UTC) > jb wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> It's fb9-release. >> >> Why the other ps entries do not display cron ? >> >> $ top >> ... >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU >> COMMAND 1897 root 1 20 0 9644K 1208K nanslp 0 0:03 >> 0.00% cron ... >> >> $ ps -ax |grep cron >> 1897 ?? Is 0:03.16 /usr/sbin/cron -s >> 62278 1 S+ 0:00.01 grep cron >> $ ps -a |grep cron >> 62337 1 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron >> $ ps -aux |grep cron >> > > > If you grep for cron's pid instead of "cron" you'll see that the > command is truncated. Or you can use the -w option twice. I use it whenever piping to another process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 16:12:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3111065670 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DC18FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3TrY57609Bz13L; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:12:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:10:57 -0500 From: Daniel Staal To: "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <201202191430.q1JEUF9r074837@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201202191430.q1JEUF9r074837@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:12:13 -0000 --As of February 19, 2012 3:30:15 PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey is alleged to have said: > Beside the point: the Wrong list was posted to. > questions@ list was created to help beginners, > not to debate & invite votes to determine future design. > > FreeBSD lists have remits so people can read & write lists most > tuned to interests. Tossing non beginner support topics in questions@ > deprives other lists. Not all on hackers@ current@ & the many other > list want to be on questions@ & vice versa. > > Please read list remits & subscribe & post most appropriate list per > topic. --As for the rest, it is mine. I don't get 'beginners' from 'User questions and technical support'. It's probably the best place for most beginner's questions, but that isn't the same as 'the list is for beginners'. Hackers@ might have been appropriate for this question, but it's not really a *technical* question: It's a *preference* question. As such asking the group of general users isn't a bad idea, as it's their preferences that the question was aimed at... It was a question for the users of FreeBSD. Adressing it to the list for user questions may be an interesting interpretation of the grammar, but it's not an invalid one. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. 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[184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d15sm24458312ibf.7.2012.02.19.08.26.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:26:25 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:26:16 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; i386; ; ) References: <201202190820.43133.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201202190820.43133.lumiwa@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202191026.16640.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: skype X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:26:27 -0000 On Sunday 19 February 2012 08:20:43 ajtiM wrote: > Skype on my FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE and KDE 4.7.4 working but after five, > sometimes more or less minutes is sound dead. I need to recall again... > > In /etc/rc.conf I have: > linux_enable="YES" > > Thank you. > > Mitja > -------- > http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa kern.hz=100 in /boot/loader.conf solved a problem. Thanks. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 17:50:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4F1106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6003A8FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fruiteater.riseup.net (fruiteater-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D76D958C5B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@fruiteater.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id DCD6E5F6 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:49:56 +0100 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120219174956.GA34784@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:50:01 -0000 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 05:17:59AM -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: > > Here is the thing I alluded to under option (1).  The security patch for > > the unix domain socket problem came out in two chunks.  There was an > > original patch to fix the actual security problem, then a later followup > > patch to fix a bug that exposed in the linux emulation layer.  It is > > possible to tell this from the text of the advisory as it exists at the > > moment, but you might not see it unless you are looking for it.  The > > important bit of text is this: > > > >  NOTE: The patch distributed at the time of the original advisory fixed > >  the security vulnerability but exposed the pre-existing bug in the > >  linux emulation subsystem.  Systems to which the original patch was > >  applied should be patched with the following corrective patch, which > >  contains only the additional changes required to fix the newly- > >  exposed linux emulation bug: > > > > Given that the second part of the patch was actually not a security fix, > > there would not have been a modified kernel distributed.  So you got a > > bundle of three advisories issued together on 2011-09-28 resulting in > > FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3.  Then later on, at 2011-10-04 a further update > > was issued modifying FreeBSD-SA-11:05-unix and technically taking the > > system to FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4.  However, as this was not a security > > fix, it was not applied to the freebsd-update distribution channel.  As > > none of the updates since then have touched the kernel, it will still > > show -p3 even though you are in fact fully patched against all known > > security problems. > > I hope this is the case, but that -p3 makes me think? I am hesistant If it will feel you more confident that everything is OK, I too have -p3 reported from the kernel, but -p6 in newvers.sh. I remember a discussion shortly after FreeBSD-SA-11:05-unix (maybe on freebsd-security@ but I'm not sure) about this confusion with patch level reported and if I remember correctly the conclusion was in agreement with what Matthew wrote above. > > Thank you very much for your kind explanation and hopefully I am in > the (4) category. How does one know when a new 8.2-RELEASE-pX, has > been released? where X is a number >= 6? > You could follow freebsd-announce@, and/or optionally freebsd-security@. All security advisories and errata patches are announced there. Alternatively, there are http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories.html and http://www.freebsd.org/security/notices.html pages along with their RSS feeds http://www.freebsd.org/security/rss.xml and http://www.freebsd.org/security/errata.xml, respectively. -- "Have you lived here all your life?" "Oh, twice that long." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 18:01:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8D1065672 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE9B8FC14 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1JI0vHY084610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:00:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1JI0vHY084610 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329674457; bh=T3UnkyMRntZ0NdjPE+QRw+nWd37ESPbp5p6deCPccbk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=jNCKjIB+cs5iJQBfOsnDlEt9j4LhgLANyCbQOI7gwimYD5+yAomH9zp5v8F2MpUY+ vqaHfv1XwI0aGLI1hvfCMw9U5v5aAlC9aeBTe9qDaZCsNr641vh3uXd68QCp1wUKGr bffTaJk5DqZtjUkkVGfFJIbxOlJHXs4Yu+osbEK8= Message-ID: <4F4138D2.30305@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:00:50 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120219174956.GA34784@sputnjik.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20120219174956.GA34784@sputnjik.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1D3410128524A39FE4D73184" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:01:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1D3410128524A39FE4D73184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/02/2012 17:49, Nikola Pavlovi=C4=87 wrote: > If it will feel you more confident that everything is OK, I too have -p= 3 > reported from the kernel, but -p6 in newvers.sh. I remember a > discussion shortly after FreeBSD-SA-11:05-unix (maybe on > freebsd-security@ but I'm not sure) about this confusion with patch > level reported and if I remember correctly the conclusion was in > agreement with what Matthew wrote above. Um... it's not really surprising that the two posts are in agreement. I certainly read that other thread, and I may even have written that other post you mention... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1D3410128524A39FE4D73184 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9BONkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwa6wCfZEfuo9tNaL87FUCHm+19VM2u Vo4An21uBmbAIFTsIo7MY+6j+bzsA6Bv =OSdL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1D3410128524A39FE4D73184-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 18:33:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666451065674 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2158FC0C for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.128.143.53]) by hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20120219163704639.WPT18006@hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:37:04 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=fNy7LOme c=1 sm=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=R5FhY6rjjCMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZaDg5-L3AAAA:8 a=zLGiIMFgNAwC-E4XiEUA:9 a=ZuI81QpqpJn80twEIcYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 204.210.114.114 Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:28688] helo=localhost) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/21-11045-2F4214F4; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:36:03 +0000 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 658C35C4B; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:43:33 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:43:33 -1000 From: parv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120219164333.GA88489@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <20120217234623.cf7e169c.freebsd@edvax.de> <3D08D03C85ACFBB1ABCDC5DA@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <4F3F1817.7030009@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F3F1817.7030009@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:33:20 -0000 I vote for multiple partitions with user specified names (or at least be able to change /home mount point to something else) & allocated space. in message <4F3F1817.7030009@herveybayaustralia.com.au>, wrote Da Rock thusly... > > On 02/18/12 12:16, Daniel Staal wrote: > > --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to > > have said: > > > >> Well, to be honest, I never liked the "old style" default > >> with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ > >> default style for separated partitions include: > >> > >> / > >> swap > >> /tmp > >> /var > >> /usr > >> /home I like having /var and/or /tmp to be separate from /, /usr, /home in case it fills up or gets damaged. For me, they are not as much as critical as the rest. > >> In special cases, add /opt or /scratch as separate partitions > >> with intendedly limited sizes. > >> > >> You can see that all user data is kept independently from > >> the rest of the system. It can easily be switched over to > >> a separate "home disk" if needed. > > > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > > > I'm in agreement with you on that I like to have /home be a > > separate partition, and not under /usr. (Of course, my current > > zfs system has 40 partitions...) Partly though I recognize that > > I like it because that's what I'm used to, and how I learned to > > set it up originally. (My first unix experience was with > > OpenBSD, over 10 years ago now.) > > > > I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having > > /home under /usr though. I figure there must be a decent reason > > why. Would anyone care to enlighten me? What are the perceived > > advantages? (Particularly if you then make a symlink to /home.) > > But seriously, for the pedantic yes, but for a desktop user (at > least) having home on /usr partition makes sense - balances space > and functionality; Give / + /usr a 1 or 2 GB for FreeBSD files; allot the rest to other partitions. > plus a lack of nodes on the disk for partitions? Limit was 8 I > think. But now with /usr/home if you want to install from ports it > can take a few gig, but that can be wasted because you're not > always installing from ports, so might as well share space with > the home directories and balance that way. Otherwise you'd need > 30G (about) for /usr/ports and all the stuff you want to install > and then that cannot be used at all for /home which could be > cleared quite easily to make room if necessary if it was on the > same partition. # df -h | egrep -v 'devfs|proc' ; echo ; swapinfo ; echo ; \ # ll -d /{var,home,tmp} /usr/{ports,local,src,obj} ; Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s4a 2.9G 1.5G 1.2G 56% / /dev/ad4s4d 989M 243M 667M 27% /var /dev/ad4s4e 275G 172G 80G 68% /misc Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/ad4s2 1044288 0 1044288 0% lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 Apr 2 2010 /home@ -> /misc/home lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Apr 2 2010 /tmp@ -> /var/tmp-root lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Apr 2 2010 /usr/local@ -> /misc/local lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Apr 2 2010 /usr/obj@ -> /misc/obj lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Apr 2 2010 /usr/ports@ -> /misc/ports lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Dec 6 20:35 /usr/src@ -> /misc/src drwxr-xr-x 27 root wheel 512 Feb 18 13:11 /var/ (There is another partition, /toybox of 8.5 GB, currently not mounted, to experiment with virtualbox.) - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 18:38:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B1F1065670 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E578FC1B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBFAD4.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.250.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1JIce28076052; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:38:41 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1JIcQAn038770; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:38:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1JIcESk076434; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:38:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202191838.q1JIcESk076434@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Daniel Staal From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:10:57 EST." Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:38:14 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:38:44 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Daniel Staal > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:10:57 -0500 > Message-id: Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of February 19, 2012 3:30:15 PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey is alleged to > have said: > > > Beside the point: the Wrong list was posted to. > > questions@ list was created to help beginners, > > not to debate & invite votes to determine future design. > > > > FreeBSD lists have remits so people can read & write lists most > > tuned to interests. Tossing non beginner support topics in questions@ > > deprives other lists. Not all on hackers@ current@ & the many other > > list want to be on questions@ & vice versa. > > > > Please read list remits & subscribe & post most appropriate list per > > topic. > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > I don't get 'beginners' from 'User questions and technical support'. I remember when & why the list was set up. See src/ etc/motd Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 18:39:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C625D1065690 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terrence@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08758FC27 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:39:52 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-Sophos: Scanned and found clean X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [46.44.172.86] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.4.2) with XMIT id 8425924; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:39:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:39:40 +0100 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4F403EF7.2090505@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: DNS - slaving the root zone Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: AczvNdaqCNEXkGZuR5C9sdw5RHc5hA== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "Doug Barton" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.54.6/1.54.0.6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_6334_00018467.00000041" Cc: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Jeremy Chadwick Subject: RE: DNS - slaving the root zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:39:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_6334_00018467.00000041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 at 01:14:47, Doug Barton wrote: > On 02/18/2012 03:23, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >> On 2/18/12 12:57 AM, Doug Barton wrote: >>> >>> To clarify, almost universally the opposition to the idea centers >>> around the problems of users who enable this method, and then don't >>> notice if something changes/breaks, resulting in a stale zone (or >>> zones, depending on what you choose to slave). I have always >>> acknowledged that this is a valid concern, just not one that I think >>> overwhelms the virtues of doing the slaving in the first place. >>> >> >> Could you elaborate on the "something changes/breaks, admin doesn't >> notice, results in a stale zone" bit ? > > Most commonly whatever auth. server the user is axfr'ing from suddenly > stops offering that ability. [snip] I'm just done converting from named.root to slaving the root, I checked whi= ch servers allow axfr (at least for me...) and added them all as masters. M= ultiple masters would substantially decrease the risk of stale zones, yes? = I have attached the relevant portion of my config, maybe it's useful. Also, I was wondering, now that I slave . and arpa, is it still beneficial = to retain the 'empty zones' that fall within those or are they redundant? I figure they are, as the comments say 'Serving the following zones locally= will prevent any queries for these zones leaving your network and going to= the root name servers.' and now my server *is* the root as far as it knows= . Thanks. -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. 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Message-Id: <785970885da14a49ad39474dba0147a8@mediamonks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: Which mailinglist is appropriate for discussing uart changes? Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: AczvMcPx6PCB5Up8ShSW7X9L8umcrw== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.54.6/1.54.0.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Which mailinglist is appropriate for discussing uart changes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:40:51 -0000 Could someone point me to the right mailinglist to discuss adding support f= or the MCS9904 chip to uart? I'm working on it, but I have some questions r= egarding FIFO sizes and how they are currently determined. Thanks. -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote relevant replies in correspondence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 18:41:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C40106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0818FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q1JIks7m089565; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:46:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:46:54 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201202191846.q1JIks7m089565@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jb.1234abcd@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: ps output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:41:59 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 19 04:35:10 2012 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > From: jb > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:29 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: ps output > > Hi, > > It's fb9-release. > > Why the other ps entries do not display cron ? Add a 'ww' -- yes, -two- 'w' characters -- to the ps switches, and see what happens. Now append the pid, '1877' to the end of the ps switches, and try the various ps commands with and without 'ww' specified. Enlightenment will follow. > > $ top > ... > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 1897 root 1 20 0 9644K 1208K nanslp 0 0:03 0.00% cron > ... > > $ ps -ax |grep cron > 1897 ?? Is 0:03.16 /usr/sbin/cron -s > 62278 1 S+ 0:00.01 grep cron > $ ps -a |grep cron > 62337 1 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron > $ ps -aux |grep cron > > man ps > -x When displaying processes matched by other options, include pro- > cesses which do not have a controlling terminal. > > jb > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 18:45:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8529F106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374318FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RzBku-0001qW-3v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:45:04 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:45:04 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:45:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <20120219124433.5a297d0f@gumby.homeunix.com> <4F411DDF.9020406@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: ps output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:45:06 -0000 Joshua Isom gmail.com> writes: > > On 2/19/2012 6:44 AM, RW wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:28:29 +0000 (UTC) > > jb wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> It's fb9-release. > >> > >> Why the other ps entries do not display cron ? > >> > >> $ top > >> ... > >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > >> COMMAND 1897 root 1 20 0 9644K 1208K nanslp 0 0:03 > >> 0.00% cron ... > >> > >> $ ps -ax |grep cron > >> 1897 ?? Is 0:03.16 /usr/sbin/cron -s > >> 62278 1 S+ 0:00.01 grep cron > >> $ ps -a |grep cron > >> 62337 1 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron > >> $ ps -aux |grep cron > >> > > > > > > If you grep for cron's pid instead of "cron" you'll see that the > > command is truncated. > > Or you can use the -w option twice. I use it whenever piping to another > process. > ... Hi guys, The same entries and their outputs on randomly larger (column-wise) terminal: $ ps -ax |less PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND ... 1891 ?? Is 0:00.43 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clie ntmqueue (sendmail) 1897 ?? Ss 0:03.56 /usr/sbin/cron -s ... $ ps -aux |less USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND ... smmsp 1891 0.0 0.1 11324 2404 ?? Is Thu12PM 0:00.43 sendmai l: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/client root 1897 0.0 0.1 9644 1208 ?? Is Thu12PM 0:03.56 /usr/sb in/cron -s ... I think the current application of terminal window size is incorrect. command1 | command2 Right now it is: command1 -> fd (stdout) -> win size "filter" -> | -> display It should be: command1 -> fd (stdout) -> | -> win size "filter" -> display jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 19:23:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04100106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from innervisionnetwork@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4378FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcwo16 with SMTP id wo16so8264369obc.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of innervisionnetwork@gmail.com designates 10.60.0.195 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.60.0.195; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of innervisionnetwork@gmail.com designates 10.60.0.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=innervisionnetwork@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=innervisionnetwork@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.60.0.195]) by 10.60.0.195 with SMTP id 3mr7993874oeg.2.1329679393226 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iFqsq742IFuUoHe1V47nXJCrYEx4nqkYmiussN58ByI=; b=M0q9WZxdMJP7amuBQ7ktQGbgX+FyUWGOqZTXXGwX/YxzoE/YkH7mbuwLeg0h1JdW8C 1hckPLgcB/cn6djvvtEG1L90qO8St3BXDUWOaPm7IBWacq3gvyCnUomkhGrJlx6R8VkX zmKpm+8bukuR9EaCRZ+7cFM2EbSXgU5AFaEUM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.0.195 with SMTP id 3mr6845719oeg.2.1329679393195; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.165.70 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:23:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Daniel Lewis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:39:01 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:23:14 -0000 I just install free bsd 8.2 and i can send mail out but cant recieve. From recipient end its combining the hostname and domain name. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 19:27:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D2F106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from innervisionnetwork@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E788FC19 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcwo16 with SMTP id wo16so8267204obc.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of innervisionnetwork@gmail.com designates 10.182.15.5 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.182.15.5; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of innervisionnetwork@gmail.com designates 10.182.15.5 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=innervisionnetwork@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=innervisionnetwork@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.182.15.5]) by 10.182.15.5 with SMTP id t5mr11561767obc.2.1329679633614 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:27:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CsR85LW4mqP8zWuRapAOZ3asmZCMXmWcXE7JiqC6QMw=; b=gqmRXxSGKSjLiM5bipPu17a//1xAL0S0PEBofo5kZjtFpVTdmIvqqGk0T94x9/fO+1 RCidqZeWQN8RXe0FMDUN2xDeq1XbFFhxcRtXSDxKTTSW3YAi6LEyrIqwG1gwNVOE2z/M HGHMvq8LuiI5u2V/e6iV6v0m8yYnbL42GaOhI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.15.5 with SMTP id t5mr9786438obc.2.1329679633568; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.165.70 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:27:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:27:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Daniel Lewis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:39:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:27:14 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Daniel Lewis Date: Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM Subject: Mail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org I just install free bsd 8.2 and i can send mail out but cant recieve. From recipient end its combining the hostname and domain name. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 19:58:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52EC106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC018FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RzCti-0003qE-T9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:58:15 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:58:14 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:58:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:58:19 -0000 Daniel Lewis gmail.com> writes: > > I just install free bsd 8.2 and i can send mail out but cant recieve. From > recipient end its combining the hostname and domain name. > ... Check sendmail in /etc/hosts.allow jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 20:43:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A95106564A for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0188FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fulvetta.riseup.net (fulvetta-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39A6958CEB for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@fulvetta.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id 61DD51D5 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:43:40 +0100 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120219204340.GA35127@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202190204.q1J24gJx080884@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4F40CD81.1000708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120219174956.GA34784@sputnjik.localdomain> <4F4138D2.30305@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4F4138D2.30305@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p6 but still on 8.2-RELEASE-p3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:43:44 -0000 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 06:00:50PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 19/02/2012 17:49, Nikola Pavlović wrote: > > If it will feel you more confident that everything is OK, I too have -p3 > > reported from the kernel, but -p6 in newvers.sh. I remember a > > discussion shortly after FreeBSD-SA-11:05-unix (maybe on > > freebsd-security@ but I'm not sure) about this confusion with patch > > level reported and if I remember correctly the conclusion was in > > agreement with what Matthew wrote above. > > Um... it's not really surprising that the two posts are in agreement. I > certainly read that other thread, and I may even have written that other > post you mention... > Sorry if I wasn't clear, I did not intend to question your answer (which, as usual, was thorough and most helpful) in any way, but only to point out, because Antonio expressed some doubt, that it isn't mere speculation and that the issue is known, and that he isn't the only one with "strange" -pX reported by uname (i.e. he can be confident that his system is up to date, as far as this is concerned). I don't remember who wrote what (and laziness prevents me from searching the archives), only that people who never use Linux emulation need not apply the follow up patch in which case -p3 is correct. -- About the only thing we have left that actually discriminates in favor of the plain people is the stork. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 20:52:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E34106566B for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECA38FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10so2212953eaa.13 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 10.14.47.68 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.14.47.68; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 10.14.47.68 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=odhiambo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=odhiambo@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.14.47.68]) by 10.14.47.68 with SMTP id s44mr8959497eeb.11.1329684772563 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:52:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=gsxsx+8ULTWY4gmrwKF8+as8VbnBBMys+yIXe7BXLgY=; b=v4vCEXqW2vAx/0dKeSyKtMLYSuZdqcCWmn1WZbLfWTGemEHKdpqLEaIvX6CT3RlxPa mdVTyMgEd68KqhX1OW1GyO8cc07zlQdf8SBKUa52V5M1G+NOPLlrBcOHRVZS9dxvlxqp zKrYtq517SSbOVgo/tyadBW2/SETQvikarBj8= Received: by 10.14.47.68 with SMTP id s44mr7134413eeb.11.1329682899849; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:21:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.108.76 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:20:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:20:59 +0300 Message-ID: To: Daniel Lewis Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=90e6ba5bbb75e8d2ee04b956ecd1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:52:54 -0000 --90e6ba5bbb75e8d2ee04b956ecd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 22:23, Daniel Lewis wrote: > I just install free bsd 8.2 and i can send mail out but cant recieve. From > recipient end its combining the hostname and domain name. > > Hi Daniel, In order to be able to "receive" e-mails on your server, a lot more is involved than just installing the box. Your domain name (e.g. danlewis.name) must be published in the web. I mean, you must have a registered domain name. After it being registered, it must have some special records published (DNS) and these records are called MX (Mail eXchanger) records. They must point back to your server's *public *IP address if it is the one you want to receive mail from. That public IP address needs to be static/permanent or some other special DNS (dynamic DNS) records need to come into play. Once all that is done, you will need to setup a fully-fledged mail server that can receive mail and let people retrieve it. In that case, you will need to run two applications - one is an SMTP server (the one that receives and places the mail into a 'mailbox') and the other being a POP3/IMAP4 server (the one that allows a user with a valid username and password to "retrieve" their e-mail from the mailbox). I suggest you start looking at Exim , Postfix(for SMTP) and Dovecot (for POP3/IMAP). There are several primers for setting these up, and so be prepared to start reading all those and making decisions on what you need to do - because now you are an aspiring "Server Administrator" (mail server for starters, and I know soon you'll be becoming a web server, database server, etc administrator, for that is the life you have chosen:)) May I start by pointing you to the following primers: 1. Exim+Dovecot - http://exim4u.org/ 2. Postfix+Dovecot - http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 The above two include using MySQL database as backend and have a GUI to manage, which means you will soon be getting your hands dirty with MySQL and Apache, and PHP - I feel so sad for you because of this, but it's life:-) 3. http://rob0.nodns4.us/howto/ - This one was just posted to this list today. It's about Postfix+Dovecot using SQLite database as backend. I guess there is no GUI to manage this. Remember, when faced with difficulties, a good sysadmin reads log files for the different applications s/he runs and tries to figure it out using Google, then when stuck, can post a question to a general mailing list like this one, or to a specific mailing list dealing with the particular application. Welcome to FreeBSD, and to being a Systems Administrator. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. --90e6ba5bbb75e8d2ee04b956ecd1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 19 22:52:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313181065674 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-197-151.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA6F15118C; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F417D39.2010606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:52:41 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terrence Koeman References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: DNS - slaving the root zone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:52:42 -0000 On 02/19/2012 10:39, Terrence Koeman wrote: > I'm just done converting from named.root to slaving the root, I > checked which servers allow axfr (at least for me...) and added them > all as masters. Given that some of the root server operators don't really like people doing this routinely it would be net.friendlier to list the ICANN servers first. They are just as up to date as the live root servers. > Multiple masters would substantially decrease the > risk of stale zones, yes? Yes. > Also, I was wondering, now that I slave . and arpa, is it still > beneficial to retain the 'empty zones' that fall within those or are > they redundant? They are not redundant, and yes, they are still beneficial. Doug -- It's always a long day; 86400 doesn't fit into a short. Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 03:19:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9EC106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CEB8FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1K3JX6B014983; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:33 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-172-52.as13285.net [92.22.172.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1K3JWVJ014975; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:32 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7269133C1F; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:32 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Terrence Koeman Message-ID: <20120220031932.GA66847@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <785970885da14a49ad39474dba0147a8@mediamonks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <785970885da14a49ad39474dba0147a8@mediamonks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Which mailinglist is appropriate for discussing uart changes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:36 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:10:30PM +0100, Terrence Koeman wrote: > > Could someone point me to the right mailinglist to discuss adding > support for the MCS9904 chip to uart? I'm working on it, but I have > some questions regarding FIFO sizes and how they are currently > determined. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk Hi Terrence, Looking at the list of mailing lists, I'd say your best bet is to send an e-mail to freebsd-net@ asking them if it's appropriate to ask the question there and if not where. uarts and FIFOs sounds like it's network stack to me and I'd guess someone on that list might be able to supply you with an answer. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk9Bu8EACgkQHduKvUAgeK4eswCfbdYPdq4xcazP3H//IU3gCaNU OisAoI8RyFhnebKD+BMmDnnbb0lRnj18 =3/jR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 03:31:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839C3106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068E98FC16 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1K3VcVh024284 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:31:38 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-172-52.as13285.net [92.22.172.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1K3VbVf024275 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:31:37 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43A0D33C1F; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:31:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:31:37 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20120220033137.GB66847@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4F405F4A.3080309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F405F4A.3080309@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Subject: Re: webcamd and device numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:31:40 -0000 --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:32:42PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > I've been struggling with this on my own for ages now, and I was=20 > determined to try and sort it myself. But I'll now eat my humble pie and= =20 > ask for some help :) >=20 > I have (I believe I have mentioned this before) 5 dvb tuners in a=20 > FreeBSD server (8.2): 1 cx88, 2 DiVico dual tuners (that totals 4=20 > amongst just the DiVico's). I'm using webcamd to use these (thank God I= =20 > can get away from Linux!), and they work fine except I have to run ln -s= =20 > to link them to the right places after every reboot (Only the Divico's=20 > use webcamd). So they should look like this: >=20 > $ls /dev/dvb/ > adapter0 adapter1 adapter2 adapter3 >=20 > instead: >=20 > ls /dev/dvb/ > adapter0 adapter16 adapter24 adapter8 >=20 > This is a real problem because 1. MPlayer only accepts 0-4, and 2.=20 > GStreamer (including xine) only accept 1-16. >=20 > I tried working out how to resolve the issue any sane way; and then I=20 > resorted to some quick hacks. I tried uding devfs.rules for links before= =20 > I found out it can't do that at all. devfs.conf is no good, as it sets=20 > them up to begin with. And running some commands in rc.local didn't=20 > work: `ln -s /dev/dvb/adapter8 /dev/dvb/adapter1` and so forth. >=20 > I googled and googled and there seem to be no real fix as webcamd won't= =20 > work without hal and relies on it for the numbering (but borks it=20 > continuously). I've tried updates and so forth, but all to no avail. I'm= =20 > not too worried about a permanent fix because hal's death bells have=20 > tolled, but I do need to fix this as it is really getting annoying now -= =20 > the server is on continuously but can go down from time to time and=20 > catches the unwary :) (like when a scheduled recording which requires=20 > say adapter1 finds it no longer there) >=20 > I'm using webcamd-3.2.0.2, which I recently updated. >=20 > Cheers The manpage seems to indicate that HAL is an option for webcamd(8): -H Register device by the HAL daemon. If you still have problems you might want to post on multimedia@ as the author of webcamd hangs out there (hselasky@). Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk9BvpcACgkQHduKvUAgeK6mXQCgolSzaXXIsWrQtinpem8RnmFM csMAn0rZrG6g4zoGyuD3BbrD+YyOae/V =ujAv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 12:18:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDBC106566B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (mail1.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F41D8FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asahi-net.jp (g036058.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [211.132.36.58]) by mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A2112D1B3 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:58:28 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:58:28 +0900 From: WATANABE Kazuhiro To: freebsd-questions User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20120220115829.03A2112D1B3@mail1.asahi-net.or.jp> Subject: fvwm-2.6.4 dumps core on 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:18:54 -0000 Hi, all. I have updated my window manager (x11-wm/fvwm2) from 2.6.3 to 2.6.4. It compiled on 9.0-RELEASE/i386 with the default option settings. After the update, fvwm2 crashes randomly and dumps core. Does anyone have a similar problem? Here is the stack trace: capricorn:~ {1} gdb /usr/local/bin/fvwm fvwm.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Core was generated by `fvwm'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXft.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXft.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXrender.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXrender.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXinerama.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXinerama.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.5 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXcursor.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXcursor.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.9...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.9 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.7...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so.0...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.5 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libbz2.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libbz2.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXfixes.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXfixes.so.3 Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0 0x28561c54 in free () from /lib/libc.so.7 (gdb) bt #0 0x28561c54 in free () from /lib/libc.so.7 #1 0x281b745c in XFreeStringList () from /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 #2 0x080ee215 in FlocaleFreeNameProperty (ptext=0x289b3008) at Flocale.c:2358 #3 0x08095e42 in free_window_names (fw=0x289b3000, nukename=0, nukeicon=1) at add_window.c:3171 #4 0x080e664f in EWMH_WMIconName (fw=0x289b3000, ev=0x812d000, style=0x0, any=0) at ewmh_names.c:175 #5 0x080c8ce5 in EWMH_ProcessPropertyNotify (exc=0x28903180) at ewmh_events.c:1620 #6 0x0807c773 in HandlePropertyNotify (ea=0xbfbfe474) at events.c:3617 #7 0x0807d426 in dispatch_event (e=0xbfbfe498) at events.c:4124 #8 0x0807d52b in HandleEvents () at events.c:4168 #9 0x080a2898 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbfbfe7ac) at fvwm.c:2588 (gdb) quit capricorn:~ {2} --- WATANABE Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 13:12:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7647D106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE168FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF514.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.245.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1KDCB3i092583; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:12:12 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1KDC7h7044169; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:12:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1KDBlRF007102; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:11:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q1KDBfUt007100; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:11:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:11:41 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <201202201311.q1KDBfUt007100@fire.js.berklix.net> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: add see also swapinfo to man df X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:12:16 -0000 >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Julian H. Stacey >Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Linux Unix Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen. >Confidential: no >Synopsis: add see also swapinfo to man df >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: bin >Class: change-request >Release: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE amd64 >Environment: System: FreeBSD fire.js.berklix.net 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 2 23:10:13 CEST 2011 jhs@blak.js.berklix.net:/ad6s4/release/8.2-RELEASE/src/sys/amd64/compile/FIRE64.small amd64 >Description: In response to: > From: Jim Pazarena > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:54:18 -0800 (Sat 00:54 CET) > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > is there a command which can show the size of the hard drive swap? > A "df" seems to avoid the swap area. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** 8.2-RELEASE/src/bin/df/df.1 Mon Feb 20 13:57:00 2012 --- new-generic/src/bin/df/df.1 Mon Feb 20 13:57:52 2012 *************** *** 158,163 **** --- 158,165 ---- .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr lsvfs 1 , .Xr quota 1 , + .Xr swapinfo 1 , + .Xr pstat 1 , .Xr fstatfs 2 , .Xr getfsstat 2 , .Xr statfs 2 , From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 13:23:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426201065673 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:23:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC8E8FC17 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF514.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.245.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1KDNnFE092678; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:23:52 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1KDNdq2044217; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:23:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1KDNLqN007231; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:23:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202201323.q1KDNLqN007231@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Frank Shute From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:19:32 GMT." <20120220031932.GA66847@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:23:21 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Terrence Koeman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Which mailinglist is appropriate for discussing uart changes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:23:59 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:10:30PM +0100, Terrence Koeman wrote: > > > > Could someone point me to the right mailinglist to discuss adding > > support for the MCS9904 chip to uart? I'm working on it, but I have > > some questions regarding FIFO sizes and how they are currently > > determined. > >=20 > > Thanks. > >=20 > > -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk > > Hi Terrence, > > Looking at the list of mailing lists, I'd say your best bet is to send > an e-mail to freebsd-net@ asking them if it's appropriate to ask the > question there and if not where. > > uarts and FIFOs sounds like it's network stack to me and I'd guess > someone on that list might be able to supply you with an answer. No, net@ is net protocols. Getting a new uart working is driver work, for that http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo shows (though I'm not familiar with that list) http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-drivers As fallback, try hackers@ for normal developing based on a release, or current@ if you want more developers on the bleeding edge. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 13:40:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0357106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6687A8FC16 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so10101706iae.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ndhertbsd@gmail.com designates 10.43.44.202 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.43.44.202; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ndhertbsd@gmail.com designates 10.43.44.202 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ndhertbsd@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=ndhertbsd@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.43.44.202]) by 10.43.44.202 with SMTP id uh10mr6446846icb.3.1329745241006 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4Rd2ZBVo2tHOjD6RtN0KO7uRreBh6ivWhlt+6KE7AFg=; b=UYchcgMdzpnWuvpsoUyEMuPxHDiCEHp9C3Htzham0Ii+qgA89iI4r7qpUFYhBLDmId sCQKL4I0Enl7aY+CSszohNHFPpbTCr8iAA8I8fYGaRvmYJ9qlPyRgJsDlCot3ZviYyRt PU3tmocG8+AU0Lw3LizpH0wRc9Ci6FBIR7M90= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.44.202 with SMTP id uh10mr5210177icb.3.1329745240928; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.158.65 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:40:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:40:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: libxul-1.9.2.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:40:41 -0000 During a ports upgrade, I had an upgrade from libxul also. this took quite a long time to build and used lots of CPU power and made response time slow ... just for curiosity, I checked # pkg_info | grep libxul libxul-1.9.2.27 Mozilla runtime package that can be used to bootstrap XUL+X # pkg_info -R libxul-1.9.2.27 Information for libxul-1.9.2.27: (that is: nothing depends on it) I can't exactly remember how it got installed, but I was I think with (from /usr/ports/UPDATING) 20090917: AFFECTS: users of www/epiphany, x11/yelp, graphics/librsvg2, x11/toolkits/py-gnome-extras, and www/epiphany-extensions AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org The default Gecko provider has been changed from www/firefox to www/libxul. Firefox 2.x is now marked FORBIDDEN for security reasons, and libxul is new, stable, and preferred Gecko provider. Libxul uses the same Gecko engine as Firefox 3.0.x. Some ports may fail to upgrade or run when both www/firefox and libxul are installed on the same system. To make sure everything runs smoothly, uninstall www/firefox, then install libxul, then upgrade the affected ports. I have librsvg2 # pkg_info | grep librsvg2 librsvg2-2.34.1 Library for parsing and rendering SVG vector-graphic files But it does not use libxul (any more?) # pkg_info -r librsvg2-2.34.1 | grep xul (nothing) Can I safely do a # pkg_delete libxul-1.9.2.27 ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 14:30:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6109106566C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940B58FC15 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so10172896iae.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ndhertbsd@gmail.com designates 10.43.44.202 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.43.44.202; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ndhertbsd@gmail.com designates 10.43.44.202 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ndhertbsd@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=ndhertbsd@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.43.44.202]) by 10.43.44.202 with SMTP id uh10mr6661985icb.3.1329748203274 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:30:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=or6j4xEldt06VyGtKNWNjRKlfgyPgp3xW/7w9d3ObzE=; b=CyGNbBxHS7ph5EKIdLH3yMU8zbOnzfdJtg8LkhKl2iFaom3312fJxddUiz8Drwd8+B JKyOBG8qyLijDlPTBSfxinC7x3zYmPi4nRBrZS4mIO+J3PJm9/1yyqsku9oHRsuzfSs/ Ke/qmWrwL1qnKwkX/Og4wVePZEjfdDJ5X6ijY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.44.202 with SMTP id uh10mr5388685icb.3.1329748203223; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.158.65 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:30:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:30:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: htpd going wild X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:30:06 -0000 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE, all sucerity patches applied, all ports updated to the latest version (every week) In the last 6 months I have experienced 3 or 4 times the httpd deamon (apache-2 latest version) going 'wild', that is: an ever increasing number of httpd processes is being launched. In a top (shows default the 18 most consuming processes), after a short time all the 18 top processes are httpd It shows a load of 30, 40, and ever increasing interactive response, loggin-in, etc... gets very slow... I can only try to do # apachectl stop (which takes long to type, and get processed also :-( ) I already installed the FreeBSD port mod_limitipconn and specify in my Virtual hosts: Servername mysubdom.subdom.topdom DocumentRoot "my__document__root" MaxConnPerIP 3 # exempting images from the connection limit is often a good # idea if your web page has lots of inline images, since these # pages often generate a flurry of concurrent image requests NoIPLimit image/* But seems no help ... I can't figure out what can be the cause... My apache is the latest for FreeSBD, I don't think it's a bug in Apache, Is it some external websurfer/crawler that causes this huge load ?? I looked in the log files but can't find a 'smoking gun' Any one ideas how to find the cause and how to deal with it ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 14:49:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12BA106566C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725138FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CDF5C28 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:03:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10C045C22 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:03:00 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F425C5B.3040005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:44:43 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <3D08D03C85ACFBB1ABCDC5DA@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <201202181447.32623.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> In-Reply-To: <201202181447.32623.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:49:34 -0000 On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday 18 February 2012 13:05:49 Lars Eighner wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: >> >>> I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under /usr >>> though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone care to >>> enlighten me? What are the perceived advantages? (Particularly if you then >>> make a symlink to /home.) >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to have several disks to run a serious system. > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users on several 5MB disks. > > Erich Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax your memory as to when? I came across an 80M disk a few years ago (at a time when 120G was the largest), and I was thinking I could use that to prop up my swap space by about 1 or 2% ;) That one was a quantum I think... During my tertiary education we used to get 2M of space as a user, I was always filling it up in a few sessions. But I digress... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 14:51:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC71D106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23128FC1D for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q1KElkBc040355; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:47:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q1KElkkg040354; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:47:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:47:46 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20120220144746.GA40329@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120219023055.GA34544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201202191055.02035.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201202191055.02035.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:51:40 -0000 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:55:01AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > Nor does it prevent any of the schemes people have been advocating or > > > > requesting. > > > > > > You seem to forget normal users who just want to use the system. > > > They do not think of recovery until it actually happens. > > > > We forgot nothing. They can just select option 1 and then later > > when something happens so learn otherwise, if they ever do, they > > will have option 3 to more specifically build their system according > > to their newly perceived needs. > > where do they get the knowledge from? Same as always throughout history - from experience. They can use the default until they discover what suits them better. ////jerry > > Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 14:57:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8582A1065672 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6C98FC1B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjg1 with SMTP id jg1so6295900bkc.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.10.70 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.10.70; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.10.70 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ml@my.gd Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.10.70]) by 10.204.10.70 with SMTP id o6mr7109509bko.38.1329749829936 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.10.70 with SMTP id o6mr5666660bko.38.1329749829729; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y9sm39786402bkw.5.2012.02.20.06.57.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:57:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F425F43.1060202@my.gd> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:57:07 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl+FD6KlJdm/GQtZn56mqqd2uQITwNvImvL1tPdonZ6v33gEApt1vdqDN0eSlZ8vrRZzfnR Subject: Re: htpd going wild X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:57:11 -0000 On 2/20/12 3:30 PM, n dhert wrote: > FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE, all sucerity patches applied, all ports updated to the > latest version (every week) > > In the last 6 months I have experienced 3 or 4 times the httpd deamon > (apache-2 latest version) going 'wild', > that is: an ever increasing number of httpd processes is being launched. > In a top (shows default the 18 most consuming processes), after a short > time all the 18 top processes are httpd > It shows a load of 30, 40, and ever increasing > Next time this happens, get an apache2ctl fullstatus This should show the top current queries. Obviously, there's one (or a handful) that block the others, possibly DB related stuff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 14:59:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8896F1065675 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E37D8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q1KEtapJ040399; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:55:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q1KEtaJJ040398; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:55:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:55:36 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Stephen Cook Message-ID: <20120220145536.GB40329@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <4F3F8672.3090805@my.gd> <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <4F40A324.5090103@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F40A324.5090103@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:59:26 -0000 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 02:22:12AM -0500, Stephen Cook wrote: > On 2/18/2012 8:03 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >On Sunday 19 February 2012 04:34:17 Jerry McAllister wrote: > >>I don't see that this plan adds any significant complication or confusion. > >>Nor does it prevent any of the schemes people have been advocating or > >>requesting. > >You seem to forget normal users who just want to use the system. They do > >not think of recovery until it actually happens. > > I don't know if I count as a *normal* user but here's my two cents: > > Some of you think it isn't a good idea to put everything on one > partition. I'm not yet ready to manually set them up. Every time I get > into it I read tens of articles and blogs and they all boil down to "it > depends". > > So some middle-ground "this guy is willing to learn but can't set it up > optimally, and doesn't want a bad config because he is still somewhat > confused" option should be available, and possibly labeled as such. So, then, you like the Polytropon schema of three options: two with fairly reasonable generic options for those who do not wish to work out any more usage specific pattern plus one for the person willing and needful of something more specific to their use - which you never need to study if one of the first two is satisfactory for you. ////jerry > > -- Stephen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 15:02:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33504106566C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44078FC08 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q1KEwlUA040428; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:58:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q1KEwjmZ040427; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:58:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:58:45 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20120220145845.GC40329@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <201202191838.q1JIcESk076434@fire.js.berklix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201202191838.q1JIcESk076434@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Daniel Staal , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:02:39 -0000 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:38:14PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Daniel Staal > > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:10:57 -0500 > > Message-id: > > Daniel Staal wrote: > > --As of February 19, 2012 3:30:15 PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey is alleged to > > have said: > > > > > Beside the point: the Wrong list was posted to. > > > questions@ list was created to help beginners, > > > not to debate & invite votes to determine future design. > > > > > > FreeBSD lists have remits so people can read & write lists most > > > tuned to interests. Tossing non beginner support topics in questions@ > > > deprives other lists. Not all on hackers@ current@ & the many other > > > list want to be on questions@ & vice versa. > > > > > > Please read list remits & subscribe & post most appropriate list per > > > topic. > > > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > > > I don't get 'beginners' from 'User questions and technical support'. > > I remember when & why the list was set up. > See src/ etc/motd Wow, you must be old. I don't see how this is so OT for a general questions list - regardless of verbiage about its charter. A general question was asked and many people responded in various ways, hopefully all to the benefit of the FreeBSD system and community. ////jerry > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com > Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. > Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 15:16:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6E61065676 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ueber@roladder.net) Received: from mail.roladder.net (roladder.net [46.4.18.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5088FC20 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.roladder.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 67B6825555B3; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:58:41 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on roladder.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from localhost (p57B0FFD6.dip.t-dialin.net [87.176.255.214]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.roladder.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07C89255557B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:58:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:58:40 +0100 From: Florian Unglaub To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120220145840.GA45802@mars.foo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Problems with linprocfs(5) and htop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:16:39 -0000 I compiled sysutils/htop from the ports collection and noticed that it does not display any process information as it's supposed to do. Instead I get a blank screen (see [0]). htop relies on linprocfs(5) to gather process statistic. linprocfs is mounted: linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) There's also a thread on the FreeBSD forums [1], but no solution to the issue so far. Similar issues appear when using utop [2]. This looks like a general linux-emulation/linprocfs issue to me. Does anyone have any ideas what might cause those issues or how to resolve them? Regards Florian. [0]: http://roladder.net/~flo/picdump/htop.jpg [1]: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=26951 [2]: http://github.com/jeffwar/utop From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 15:48:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E343D106566C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@skuhra.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C678FC17 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCB020B38 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.211]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skuhra.net; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:subject:reply-to:date:in-reply-to:references; s= mesmtp; bh=Xr2A+6sFH66cGzLmXFgB53lK0xQ=; b=ec0QRNNjj74GMz+mO+1eC AA/2tkVNrUpDC+uSmwltu1hbZG5Yw7ZSlEfq5/ydHJPyZVzPU8Gw4JqAhVGZ5sfz DV2znJyxc6QunYMXGNM0kfyZp24nvKQdaHmVX5nKQ/tm5K83hxGf1k61VHdjOtA3 5/1FkRrk29G2zGNdC9A/is= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:reply-to:date :in-reply-to:references; s=smtpout; bh=Xr2A+6sFH66cGzLmXFgB53lK0 xQ=; b=NAOr/NLVJYOguq8qxU9otdOhRVmGBqt7Gk60F0sy/SfG2Q1GvWVs5WXee O8J49WWcBOnzaYoCZWyAzK8llKVxVbFMlG7urU6iTPfWmkAlZm0HYee7Qr/djO7K 71/jdv2evMNgIzNhSuFSWD3fyoCatPHrGBrT/8lNxgAA027mBs= Received: by web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4D068A000A0; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1329751811.17948.140661038911701@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: YNcAB+68EvW14kH636XGUDfbQLQ3ABoi/kLMs+/OZko4 1329751811 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface X-Me-Sendcharset: UTF-8 X-Me-Originalunqmsg: f16069905u45769 X-Me-Message-Id: <1329749647.27962.140661038897309.6FD25BE3@messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:30:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20120216024408.GA57917@sputnjik.localdomain> X-Me-Replymode: replyList References: <20120215165738.75518ea9@cox.net><20120216024408.GA57917@sputnjik.localdomain> X-Me-Draftunqmsg: f15856153u2649 Subject: Re: How to prevent gam_server from running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:07 -0000 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 03:44, Nikola Pavlovi=C4=87 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:57:38PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Lately, I've been hovering hither and thither when it comes to which > > desktop environment I choose when logging in, but several of them seem > > to insist on starting gam_server, which is just a real CPU hog, and > > once this thing is started, there's no stopping it. > >=20 >=20 > PolicyKit is like that too. :) >=20 > > I've looked and looked and still can't figure out how to disable it. I > > can't even figure out where exactly it's being started from. Whether > > it's GNOME or XFCE or what-have-you, at login, some add-on tool > > somewhere is launching this thing, and I just plain don't want it! :-) >=20 > It's not just desktop environments, a huge amount of 'normal' ports > depend on > it. I'm running a bare bones window manager and can't get rid of it. > At first I thought polkit and gam_server were some kind of leftovers > from a couple of months long experiment with KDE4, but after I made sure > every last bit of KDE was gone from the system (it was like trying > to kill those packs of core hounds in Molten Core[1]; older WoW players > will appreciate the analogy) and tired to remove them, this is what I > got (and still get; some of the more amusing dependants marked): Hmm, maybe glib20/_glib20 is wrongly used in Mk/bsd.gnome.mk and/or the po= rt Makefiles. e.g: accessibility/atk, devel/gobject-introspection and graph= ics/cairo list glib20 (instead of _glib20) in USE_GNOME. So you can't even = install accessibility/atk without devel/gamin. :-(=20 --=20 Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 15:48:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E561065670 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@skuhra.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BAE8FC16 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5520CB9 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.211]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skuhra.net; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:subject:reply-to:date:in-reply-to:references; s= mesmtp; bh=Xr2A+6sFH66cGzLmXFgB53lK0xQ=; b=NCt64fL72gSym+E5no7h7 ZwE0AU/OG+kojsn24KaKKFg0ixBw0PsUDB8e+6TqRwMqxApUhhh5idauooQT454Z agLArxC1y88LNRaso2XuG9x4nz9dbXCh9Of2z+TOLG6N65qBqgPTdt9MlMxfA5lh 2HYTaND1uKx7UDuqyb4Mq8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:reply-to:date :in-reply-to:references; s=smtpout; bh=Xr2A+6sFH66cGzLmXFgB53lK0 xQ=; b=kgY0ehk0nU9VZiHp/Djun7is5K/8cvYy9n4Z/1EIzLMmYOhIFIZWxDHYY 0J7wUXzRKj0qFta+QLQbD72+TI7Pcn62tvon2a2SWd0W5eKp0QQN1FdTkpxGWX2K VMjywO4rYZPQFr3xNmZx7YGBNh+SqegWUIyHUIE+GUR7OEQtRk= Received: by web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4B527A000A0; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1329751810.17948.140661038911689@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: 6hfl8/e52WC38zWrduHBM3rKtEqOALcWJFCb74GdirVP 1329751810 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface X-Me-Sendcharset: UTF-8 X-Me-Originalunqmsg: f16069905u45769 X-Me-Message-Id: <1329749647.27962.140661038897309.6FD25BE3@messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:30:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20120216024408.GA57917@sputnjik.localdomain> X-Me-Replymode: replyList References: <20120215165738.75518ea9@cox.net><20120216024408.GA57917@sputnjik.localdomain> X-Me-Draftunqmsg: f15856153u2649 Subject: Re: How to prevent gam_server from running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:07 -0000 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 03:44, Nikola Pavlovi=C4=87 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:57:38PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Lately, I've been hovering hither and thither when it comes to which > > desktop environment I choose when logging in, but several of them seem > > to insist on starting gam_server, which is just a real CPU hog, and > > once this thing is started, there's no stopping it. > >=20 >=20 > PolicyKit is like that too. :) >=20 > > I've looked and looked and still can't figure out how to disable it. I > > can't even figure out where exactly it's being started from. Whether > > it's GNOME or XFCE or what-have-you, at login, some add-on tool > > somewhere is launching this thing, and I just plain don't want it! :-) >=20 > It's not just desktop environments, a huge amount of 'normal' ports > depend on > it. I'm running a bare bones window manager and can't get rid of it. > At first I thought polkit and gam_server were some kind of leftovers > from a couple of months long experiment with KDE4, but after I made sure > every last bit of KDE was gone from the system (it was like trying > to kill those packs of core hounds in Molten Core[1]; older WoW players > will appreciate the analogy) and tired to remove them, this is what I > got (and still get; some of the more amusing dependants marked): Hmm, maybe glib20/_glib20 is wrongly used in Mk/bsd.gnome.mk and/or the po= rt Makefiles. e.g: accessibility/atk, devel/gobject-introspection and graph= ics/cairo list glib20 (instead of _glib20) in USE_GNOME. So you can't even = install accessibility/atk without devel/gamin. :-(=20 --=20 Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 15:48:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8211065672 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hskuhra@fastmail.fm) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E598D8FC19 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9912220CEE for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.211]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:subject:in-reply-to:date:references; s=mesmtp; bh= iUD/ssYO5LaQ22lw18mIyl3jGWA=; b=VD22JeV40HwsMmVOtp6fKQlvE2B/rY+P 6n8AuQoW5xWNsgh55wUOpbqhli691YW1nNXgIBb7eK+rjpYLDkjiCy/Dm0l8vokG Qk3Pah9NFUE6g/NUsCLRc0jGLsi1Oj/P1GCcJ4ED2XOu9Qmu8VMP/y9pjkkVXV/A q+oX+x/83cQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:in-reply-to:date :references; s=smtpout; bh=iUD/ssYO5LaQ22lw18mIyl3jGWA=; b=VFvj6 z4ewN9R+laFelFOdxb9d95OX2tk6wVmLUTgd/0uoDuWh8Avs+rp+qcZwIefRJqA9 3RVlaDgXU+AgV/pJxXE62N3u7IhU8APRiBz8XikE18ts34VLCEkMqtuxGAWiBImx 5wRmx4u02K2NT6ehjytcc0O4icY4RALl0a9iUs= Received: by web1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 695C6A000A1; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1329751811.17948.140661038912057@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: YNcTBfG4B/Or+Uby16XGUDfbQLQ3ABoi/kLMs+/OZko4 1329751811 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface In-Reply-To: <20120216024408.GA57917@sputnjik.localdomain> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:30:11 +0100 References: <20120215165738.75518ea9@cox.net><20120216024408.GA57917@sputnjik.localdomain> Subject: Re: How to prevent gam_server from running? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:48:07 -0000 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 03:44, Nikola Pavlovi=C4=87 wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:57:38PM -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Lately, I've been hovering hither and thither when it comes to which > > desktop environment I choose when logging in, but several of them seem > > to insist on starting gam_server, which is just a real CPU hog, and > > once this thing is started, there's no stopping it. > >=20 >=20 > PolicyKit is like that too. :) >=20 > > I've looked and looked and still can't figure out how to disable it. I > > can't even figure out where exactly it's being started from. Whether > > it's GNOME or XFCE or what-have-you, at login, some add-on tool > > somewhere is launching this thing, and I just plain don't want it! :-) >=20 > It's not just desktop environments, a huge amount of 'normal' ports > depend on > it. I'm running a bare bones window manager and can't get rid of it. > At first I thought polkit and gam_server were some kind of leftovers > from a couple of months long experiment with KDE4, but after I made sure > every last bit of KDE was gone from the system (it was like trying > to kill those packs of core hounds in Molten Core[1]; older WoW players > will appreciate the analogy) and tired to remove them, this is what I > got (and still get; some of the more amusing dependants marked): Hmm, maybe glib20/_glib20 is wrongly used in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.gnome.mk and/or the port Makefiles. e.g: accessibility/atk, devel/gobject- introspection and graphics/cairo list glib20 (instead of _glib20) in USE_GNOME. So you can't even install accessibility/atk without devel/gamin. :-( --=20 Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 16:14:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AD8106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BDA8FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF514.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.245.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1KGEtrT094115; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:14:56 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1KGElkI045000; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:14:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1KGEZ2r009997; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:14:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202201614.q1KGEZ2r009997@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Jerry McAllister From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:58:45 EST." <20120220145845.GC40329@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:14:35 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:14:59 -0000 > > I remember when & why the list was set up. > > See src/ etc/motd > > Wow, you must be old. Unless you are clueless, it's trivial to find when questions@ was created, & easy to find when motd pointed to questions, those dates are insufficient to predicate age. > I don't see how this is so OT for a general questions list - regardless > of verbiage about its charter. A general question was asked and > many people responded in various ways, hopefully all to the benefit > of the FreeBSD system and community. FreeBSD thrives on co-operation. Conforming to FreeBSD lists remits is part of the co-operation, & a requirement to post to lists. Read, memorise & conform by posting to list with most appropriate remit on a per thread basis. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 16:36:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5011065670 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2CE8FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa02 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q1KGQiYM005884; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:36:36 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 133ruqr7vd-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:36:36 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:36:35 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: "'Jerry McAllister'" , "'Damien Fleuriot'" References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <4F3F8672.3090805@my.gd> <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20120218213417.GB33662@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:36:38 -0800 Message-ID: <029301ccefed$d1da6420$758f2c60$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIQVcbiHxAZ45udkmdcvfmJBlTk1AKPnMyuAlWMHEmVmAX9sA== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-20_03:2012-02-20, 2012-02-20, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:36:38 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry McAllister > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:34 PM > To: Damien Fleuriot > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: One or Four? > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > > > > On 2/17/12 11:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: > > > Hiya, > > [snip] > > > We realize that one can use bsdinstall to create as many partitions as > > > one wants. However, the new default is for one partition and swap. We > > > want to know if people would prefer the older style default with four > > > partitions and swap when selecting "Guided Partitioning" and "Use Entire > > > Disk". > > > > > > Let the majority decide which layout is preferred for the default. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > Seeing as people using the default are likely to be novices, I vote in > > favor of ONE. > > > > The reasoning being that novices are less likely to be able to correctly > > size their /usr and /var than a seasoned sysadmin. > > So, we have now had scads of 'discussion' about schemes for disk > partitioning and there were a bunch, plus arguments about which is > the best with each person convinced that theirs is. > > As far as I can see, this all leads to the conclusion that the one > design that gives a reasonable and simple set of choices for all fits > the FreeBSD model that of providing a well made system and allowing > the user/sysadmin to configure it the way [s]he wants/needs rather than > imposing a common usage on everyone. Next we'll be arguing about which > windows manager is mandatory for users to include at install time. > > So, Polytropon's three choice pattern is good. Or, I could even > suggest just two choices. > > [ ] all in one + swap > Create one partition containing all subtrees > plus one swap partition. > > [ ] user-defined > Make your own partitioning selection manually. > (Both number and size of partitions) > with a reasonable way to specify partitions and sizes. > The old Sysinstall way is not bad, but if it obsolete, > then something as easy that fits the new GPT based system. > > But, that middle choice that Polytropon suggested is OK to include > if you think it is needed. /, /tmp, /usr, /var, [/home] +swap > Choosing the "2 option scheme" which removes the "legacy option" in my mind is not an option. It's "3 option scheme" (which includes the server/legacy option) or revert back to the legacy scheme (period). -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 16:57:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353AD106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egoitz@ramattack.net) Received: from proxypop04.sare.net (proxypop04.sare.net [194.30.0.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF668FC18 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.saremail.com (unknown [194.30.0.100]) by proxypop04.sare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D5959DC43F for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:40:05 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:40:05 +0100 From: egoitz@ramattack.net To: Message-ID: <3482104913a381c2c0b8d34eb5b7be1c@ramattack.net> X-Sender: egoitz@ramattack.net User-Agent: Saremail/0.6-svn Subject: Jumpstart on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:57:49 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to upgrade my Jumpstart services for provisioning machines, but I'm founding that in FreeBSD 9.0 things are become slightly different than in previous releases. For example... tar -C ... -pxvf does not work with some files (althout you can mount iso and later do an rsync preserving file flags....), another change is that you don't see a mfsroot for using in the service... perhaps in this release you need to create by you're own... has anyone see this problems I'm talking about in this new release?? If I rebuild the release isos... (from source) could I pass something (or can do something) for getting the commented mfsroot?. Any experience on this area you could comment out... please? Thanks a lot for you're time. Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:04:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BB4106566C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F088FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so5295643wer.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.78.98 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.78.98; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.78.98 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.78.98]) by 10.180.78.98 with SMTP id a2mr18855574wix.17.1329757444593 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:04:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1M8P2w3eU68UfNfqpNx3txSsMlflcGE00PvuTIo7A/I=; b=xEOEevwDWHfpC6YKrlaOaDM1bh95w4n3p5+4jo4fToxPA9e9vreE3SbZvO6aP58nc4 Vuf9XPvZPcL/fwQcn2B6EO+vYQxVCuDw6xuQNqAv1ioMvXabYsJaGuV5Wx2JUhx1Ve2o aw5uxO29KORWF3DLhzAU5s4paIGYBSW8rKsF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.78.98 with SMTP id a2mr15695012wix.17.1329757444352; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:04:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: newsyslog-local.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:04:06 -0000 s# tail -1 /etc/newsyslog.conf /etc/newsyslog-local.conf s# cat /etc/newsyslog-local.conf /var/log/squid/access.log squid:squid 640 7 * @T00 J /var/run/squid/squid.pid /var/log/squid/cache.log squid:squid 640 7 * @T00 J s# ls -la /var/log/squid/ total 95672 drwxr-x--- 2 squid squid 512 Jan 13 04:23 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 Feb 6 00:00 .. -rw-r----- 1 squid squid 97804783 Feb 20 16:32 access.log -rw-r----- 1 squid squid 111481 Feb 20 16:29 cache.log s# nothing gets rotated:( what am I doing wrong? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:05:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8641065675 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E808FC20 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q1KGZ710040797; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:35:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q1KGZ5H4040796; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:35:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:35:05 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20120220163505.GA40690@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20120220145845.GC40329@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <201202201614.q1KGEZ2r009997@fire.js.berklix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201202201614.q1KGEZ2r009997@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:05:20 -0000 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:14:35PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > I remember when & why the list was set up. > > > See src/ etc/motd > > > I don't see how this is so OT for a general questions list - regardless > > of verbiage about its charter. A general question was asked and > > many people responded in various ways, hopefully all to the benefit > > of the FreeBSD system and community. > > FreeBSD thrives on co-operation. Conforming to FreeBSD lists remits > is part of the co-operation, & a requirement to post to lists. > Read, memorise & conform by posting to list with most appropriate remit > on a per thread basis. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Yes. I have read this and find that this thread conforms to what is described on that page. This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. So, the OP posted a question about normal and/or preferred use of FreeBSD and people responded. Or do you consider this thread to be too technical? Maybe the discussion could fit in Hackers. ////jerry > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com > Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. > Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:24:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39861106566B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEF28FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1KHOX5J018284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:24:33 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1KHOX5J018284 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329758674; bh=5Wz1Wqw5P5nG77Xlq0Tn6q+45/nVV2dJTJV+EVwI29Y=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=YsNAQ/EGfHjC9ucniNpaJYi4Gh1M3EzBmLH9PilG6G7KVwalek7EbH7pZW91DozzK CNBjr3qxHfjaTB1SGgiqg01L6kUl6MRDopG8MEifNiAoh34pmozZMMELHbSD1q33Zb TOnCRE58aNX3o+oJM723scqNNKwoaMLNq4vnHsqE= Message-ID: <4F4281C9.9060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:24:25 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7A2AB61FB142FACAC8DD971D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: newsyslog-local.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:24:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7A2AB61FB142FACAC8DD971D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/02/2012 17:04, alexus wrote: > s# tail -1 /etc/newsyslog.conf > /etc/newsyslog-local.conf > s# cat /etc/newsyslog-local.conf > /var/log/squid/access.log squid:squid 640 7 * @T00 J > /var/run/squid/squid.pid > /var/log/squid/cache.log squid:squid 640 7 * @T00 J > s# ls -la /var/log/squid/ > total 95672 > drwxr-x--- 2 squid squid 512 Jan 13 04:23 . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 Feb 6 00:00 .. > -rw-r----- 1 squid squid 97804783 Feb 20 16:32 access.log > -rw-r----- 1 squid squid 111481 Feb 20 16:29 cache.log > s# >=20 > nothing gets rotated:( what am I doing wrong? >=20 Hmmm... nothing leaps out at me as obviously wrong. What does running 'newsyslog -n -v' tell you? 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Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:29:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F4281C9.9060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4F4281C9.9060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:29:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsyslog-local.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:29:30 -0000 s# newsyslog -n -v Processing /etc/newsyslog.conf Found: /etc/newsyslog-local.conf Processing /etc/newsyslog-local.conf /var/log/all.log <7J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/amd.log <7J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/auth.log <7J>: size (Kb): 4 [100] --> skipping /var/log/console.log <5J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/cron <3J>: size (Kb): 44 [100] --> skipping /var/log/daily.log <7J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/debug.log <7J>: size (Kb): 4 [100] --> skipping /var/log/kerberos.log <7J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/lpd-errs <7J>: size (Kb): 4 [100] --> skipping /var/log/maillog <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 2012 /var/log/messages <5J>: size (Kb): 24 [100] --> skipping /var/log/monthly.log <12J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/pflog <3J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/ppp.log <3J>: size (Kb): 4 [100] --> skipping /var/log/security <10J>: size (Kb): 4 [100] --> skipping /var/log/sendmail.st <10>: age (hr): 439 [168] --> trimming log.... rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.10 rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.10.gz rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.10.bz2 rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.10.xz rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.9 rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.9.gz rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.9.bz2 rm -f /var/log/sendmail.st.9.xz mv /var/log/sendmail.st.3 /var/log/sendmail.st.4 chmod 640 /var/log/sendmail.st.4 mv /var/log/sendmail.st.2 /var/log/sendmail.st.3 chmod 640 /var/log/sendmail.st.3 mv /var/log/sendmail.st.1 /var/log/sendmail.st.2 chmod 640 /var/log/sendmail.st.2 mv /var/log/sendmail.st.0 /var/log/sendmail.st.1 chmod 640 /var/log/sendmail.st.1 ln /var/log/sendmail.st /var/log/sendmail.st.0 chmod 640 /var/log/sendmail.st.0 Start new log... mktemp /var/log/sendmail.st.zXXXXXX chmod 640 /var/log/sendmail.st.zXXXXXX mv /var/log/sendmail.st.zXXXXXX /var/log/sendmail.st newsyslog: pid file doesn't exist: /var/run/syslog.pid /var/log/utx.log <3>: --> will trim at Thu Mar 1 05:00:00 2012 /var/log/weekly.log <5J>: does not exist, skipped. /var/log/xferlog <7J>: size (Kb): 4 [100] --> skipping /var/log/squid/access.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 2012 /var/log/squid/cache.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 2012 Signal all daemon process(es)... sleep 10 s# one thing that I noticed: newsyslog: pid file doesn't exist: /var/run/syslog.pid s# grep ^syslogd /etc/rc.conf syslogd_enable=3D"NO" s# does syslogd has be run for newsyslog to operate? On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 20/02/2012 17:04, alexus wrote: >> s# tail -1 /etc/newsyslog.conf >> /etc/newsyslog-local.conf >> s# cat /etc/newsyslog-local.conf >> /var/log/squid/access.log =C2=A0 =C2=A0 squid:squid =C2=A0 =C2=A0 640 = =C2=A07 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0@T00 =C2=A0J >> /var/run/squid/squid.pid >> /var/log/squid/cache.log =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0squid:squid =C2=A0 =C2=A0 6= 40 =C2=A07 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0@T00 =C2=A0J >> s# ls -la /var/log/squid/ >> total 95672 >> drwxr-x--- =C2=A02 squid =C2=A0squid =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 512 Jan 13 04:= 23 . >> drwxr-xr-x =C2=A03 root =C2=A0 wheel =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01024 Feb =C2=A0= 6 00:00 .. >> -rw-r----- =C2=A01 squid =C2=A0squid =C2=A097804783 Feb 20 16:32 access.= log >> -rw-r----- =C2=A01 squid =C2=A0squid =C2=A0 =C2=A0111481 Feb 20 16:29 ca= che.log >> s# >> >> nothing gets rotated:( what am I doing wrong? >> > > Hmmm... nothing leaps out at me as obviously wrong. > > What does running 'newsyslog -n -v' tell you? > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers, > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 7 Priory Courtyard > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kent, CT11 9PW > --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:01:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F331065679 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from riccardo.garzelli@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC718FC1B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcwo16 with SMTP id wo16so9583841obc.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of riccardo.garzelli@gmail.com designates 10.60.20.38 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.60.20.38; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of riccardo.garzelli@gmail.com designates 10.60.20.38 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=riccardo.garzelli@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=riccardo.garzelli@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.60.20.38]) by 10.60.20.38 with SMTP id k6mr10099772oee.21.1329757275192 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zTq5RuKkTef4GSDxkVvGKAgyNvK5GhBTZUFXebGYTUc=; b=ow9AdfOYT7ysrbKK6SD4YDCTiGvkXsG54zceB0qk9YaaGNhGROMHWfHJdKD0ahBVOx yjTTQoJ2pTYTO7PBWJh9fxn3EOhpqHUQKKIw/Iay86rryRiYvPevxGEnc5vsXltUMhl1 W3siCY5S7A04osi9oNqRXYbU/UgB8DjVyHBrQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.38 with SMTP id k6mr8613040oee.21.1329755743540; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.150.68 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:35:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: Riccardo Garzelli To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:36:49 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:01:15 -0000 Dear Information service I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a compatibility list? Thanks in advance Rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:44:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6FD106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006B38FC17 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF514.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.245.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1KHiOUc094793; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:44:25 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1KHiFAl045376; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:44:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1KHi3Ar010784; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:44:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202201744.q1KHi3Ar010784@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Jerry McAllister From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:35:05 EST." <20120220163505.GA40690@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:44:03 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:44:27 -0000 Jerry wrote: > So, the OP posted a question about normal and/or preferred use > of FreeBSD and people responded. Or do you consider this thread > to be too technical? Maybe the discussion could fit in Hackers. Yes, hackers@ Would have been a better choice. sysinstall@ Perhaps yet better, arch@ Perhaps might consider it too trivial for them. current@ If poster intended to get new code committed to current. For most topics on questions, that aren't of the "Help! I'm a struggling lost newbie" class, there's a range of lists tuned to topics. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:46:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86432106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EA08FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RzXK6-0002J7-7y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:46:50 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:46:50 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:46:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <20120220145840.GA45802@mars.foo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: Problems with linprocfs(5) and htop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:46:52 -0000 Florian Unglaub roladder.net> writes: > ... > htop relies on linprocfs(5) to gather process statistic. linprocfs is > mounted: > > linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) > ... $ cat /etc/fstab ... linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:47:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798F0106564A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward4.mail.yandex.net (forward4.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A158FC1C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4.mail.yandex.net (smtp4.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.104]) by forward4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id CEBBB501B7F for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:47:08 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329760028; bh=lMhBbu16KKGNwRe6WnJd6U4mdFacnc/8Ap4USu19JyI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tkh9EBAwaFGjNXjE4ZqsRfy+DFBsNtA3hunmi4jDlYS0t09dR6PJ4SkXlb3A9u+8S I8d3TWEjQBzjR5BdZnT2I0fYv6ps7QU5XCq4g7JbQU4zmN8voFNaZOzG4c0mKD3q1b ltSGSdDdkhdYv13Bge90/iNHny2Kg9V58fr+wDFQ= Received: from smtp4.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B39345C0365 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:47:08 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329760028; bh=lMhBbu16KKGNwRe6WnJd6U4mdFacnc/8Ap4USu19JyI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tkh9EBAwaFGjNXjE4ZqsRfy+DFBsNtA3hunmi4jDlYS0t09dR6PJ4SkXlb3A9u+8S I8d3TWEjQBzjR5BdZnT2I0fYv6ps7QU5XCq4g7JbQU4zmN8voFNaZOzG4c0mKD3q1b ltSGSdDdkhdYv13Bge90/iNHny2Kg9V58fr+wDFQ= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp4.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id l8Mm6Fmx-l8MSK27w; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:47:08 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:47:08 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <367959862.20120220194708@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: some problems to enable journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:11 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Freebsd-questions. # uname -a FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #1 r231881: Fri Feb 17 17:20:09 UTC 2012 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 #gjournal load # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 4 0xffffffff80100000 ebb5c8 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff81012000 ad84 geom_journal.ko #gjournal label -f -s 256M /dev/ad10s1e # gjournal clear /dev/ad10s1e Cannot clear metadata on /dev/ad10s1e: Operation not permitted. gjournal: Not fully done. # gjournal list Geom name: gjournal 729355407 ID: 729355407 Providers: 1. Name: ufsid/4e84463b2331f144.journal Mediasize: 805305856 (768M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: ufsid/4e84463b2331f144 Mediasize: 1073741824 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 0 Stripeoffset: 2952756736 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 1073741312 Jstart: 805305856 Role: Data,Journal # newfs -O 2 -J /dev/ad10s1e.journal newfs: /dev/ad10s1e.journal: could not find special device # newfs -O 2 /dev/ad10s1e newfs: /dev/ad10s1e: failed to open disk for writing Only #newfs -O 2 -J ufsid/4e84463b2331f144.journal helps, but: # mount ufsid/4e84463b2331f144.journal mount: ufsid/4e84463b2331f144.journal: unknown special file or file system # ls acpi ad8s1g geom.ctl random ttyvb ad10 ata io stderr ttyvc ad10s1 atkbd0 kbd0 stdin ttyvd ad10s1a audit kbd1 stdout ttyve ad10s1b bpf kbdmux0 sysmouse ttyvf ad10s1d bpf0 klog ttyv0 ufsid ad10s1e console kmem ttyv1 ugen0.1 ad10s1f consolectl log ttyv2 ugen0.2 ad10s1g ctty mdctl ttyv3 ugen1.1 ad8 da0 mem ttyv4 ugen1.2 ad8s1 dcons nfslock ttyv5 ugen1.3 ad8s1a devctl null ttyv6 urandom ad8s1b devstat pass0 ttyv7 usb ad8s1d dgdb pci ttyv8 usbctl ad8s1e fd ptmx ttyv9 xpt0 ad8s1f fido pts ttyva zero only adding geom_journal_load="YES" to /boot/loader and reboot helps x# ls acpi ad8s1g io stdin ttyve ad10 ata kbd0 stdout ttyvf ad10s1 atkbd0 kbd1 sysmouse ufsid ad10s1a audit kbdmux0 ttyv0 ugen0.1 ad10s1b bpf klog ttyv1 ugen0.2 ad10s1d bpf0 kmem ttyv2 ugen1.1 ad10s1e console log ttyv3 ugen1.2 ad10s1e.journal consolectl mdctl ttyv4 ugen1.3 ad10s1f ctty mem ttyv5 urandom ad10s1g da0 nfslock ttyv6 usb ad8 dcons null ttyv7 usbctl ad8s1 devctl pass0 ttyv8 xpt0 ad8s1a devstat pci ttyv9 zero ad8s1b dgdb ptmx ttyva ad8s1d fd pts ttyvb ad8s1e fido random ttyvc ad8s1f geom.ctl stderr ttyvd Please FIX handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-gjournal.html -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:47:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96471065672 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634ED8FC1A for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1KHltPc018722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:56 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1KHltPc018722 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329760076; bh=qfrC2O9VhTfcxwTX7/hWtcgTeKEYP27c0zLFCbPm6sE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=JjC/Dsec5RhsGaq+/k1ieSRJTX8qeyFWx7T9lze8kI0+rmrZw8cDMCxzkqf1XQXJJ iou4t8flj+gj6LwmQztIcVuXSvChGrFR4QwbW76smod7DfA8IR1pmsAoQFfXD7ZYxt zj09UL0yywNGf8wZBszUDuyt6MJmnfoh9ZPKWt1A= Message-ID: <4F42874B.3010404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:55 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alexus References: <4F4281C9.9060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1D6DE4CAC3795264874F323B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsyslog-local.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:48:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1D6DE4CAC3795264874F323B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/02/2012 17:29, alexus wrote: > /var/log/squid/access.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 20= 12 > /var/log/squid/cache.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 201= 2 OK -- this looks fine. It should cycle the log files overnight. Presumably you first setup the cycling of the squid logfiles yesterday and your post was prompted by the logs not being recycled last night? (Yes, that's insultingly obvious, but worth eliminating as a possibility.= ) > Signal all daemon process(es)... > sleep 10 > s# >=20 > one thing that I noticed: > newsyslog: pid file doesn't exist: /var/run/syslog.pid >=20 > s# grep ^syslogd /etc/rc.conf > syslogd_enable=3D"NO" > s# >=20 > does syslogd has be run for newsyslog to operate? No, syslogd doesn't /need/ to be running, but newsyslog assumes that a logfile is generated by syslogd unless configured otherwise -- ie. to signal the pid of a different process. You'll get errors like you've seen if syslogd isn't running, but they should be innocuous. Mind you, not running syslogd is a pretty unusual management decision; I'd turn it on if I were you, as it's the first recourse whenever anything goes wrong. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1D6DE4CAC3795264874F323B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9Ch0sACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyT6QCeNw/yMV6/ayhWRGpEzKMF6H9Q AukAoJO35lrSOc8556mtv6pLFjHXN5XJ =+TU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1D6DE4CAC3795264874F323B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 17:52:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAF9106566B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C778F8FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so4824838wib.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.104.4; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.104.4]) by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr20273789wib.17.1329760325846 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:52:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=toJXnnudx12JIfS+wa+5L/qr5ShNkUIV2LMJpxFNBpA=; b=LH8frAXAeeunVLvvr1nW5GNTJDJMtmTI2Uu2YcvJ6FPtfO54wwoS32JzehYlshAYFq HiIDMOxPMG6hAZ0PwR2zAYjlUr9KUuRj1RxtvJjtMM3dOQo0jzCGp9CywIebjIWoyRX8 smpsKipqYFjcyEMVDrPnV+8O1TjYhmAbwqj4w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr16966035wib.17.1329760325767; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:52:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F42874B.3010404@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4F4281C9.9060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4F42874B.3010404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:52:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsyslog-local.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:52:07 -0000 what else I can do then? i don't need syslogd.. this is vm, it runs nothing but squid, squid generates its own logging, so no reason to run syslogd On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 20/02/2012 17:29, alexus wrote: >> /var/log/squid/access.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 201= 2 >> /var/log/squid/cache.log <7J>: --> will trim at Tue Feb 21 00:00:00 2012 > > OK -- this looks fine. =C2=A0It should cycle the log files overnight. > > Presumably you first setup the cycling of the squid logfiles yesterday > and your post was prompted by the logs not being recycled last night? > (Yes, that's insultingly obvious, but worth eliminating as a possibility.= ) > >> Signal all daemon process(es)... >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 sleep 10 >> s# >> >> one thing that I noticed: >> newsyslog: pid file doesn't exist: /var/run/syslog.pid >> >> s# grep ^syslogd /etc/rc.conf >> syslogd_enable=3D"NO" >> s# >> >> does syslogd has be run for newsyslog to operate? > > No, syslogd doesn't /need/ to be running, but newsyslog assumes that a > logfile is generated by syslogd unless configured otherwise -- ie. to > signal the pid of a different process. =C2=A0You'll get errors like you'v= e > seen if syslogd isn't running, but they should be innocuous. > > Mind you, not running syslogd is a pretty unusual management decision; > I'd turn it on if I were you, as it's the first recourse whenever > anything goes wrong. > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers, > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 7 Priory Courtyard > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kent, CT11 9PW > --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 18:16:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BF71065675 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ABB8FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1KIGFmG054212; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:16:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 155DC12357; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:16:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:16:15 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: WATANABE Kazuhiro Message-ID: <20120220181615.GA47889@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120220115829.03A2112D1B3@mail1.asahi-net.or.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120220115829.03A2112D1B3@mail1.asahi-net.or.jp> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: fvwm-2.6.4 dumps core on 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:16:49 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:58:28PM +0900, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote: > Hi, all. >=20 > I have updated my window manager (x11-wm/fvwm2) from 2.6.3 to 2.6.4. > It compiled on 9.0-RELEASE/i386 with the default option settings. >=20 > After the update, fvwm2 crashes randomly and dumps core. > Does anyone have a similar problem? No problems on 9.0-RELEASE/amd64, with the following options; =E2=94=82 Options for fvwm 2.6.4 = =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=90 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] ICONS Install default icon set = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] ICONV Enable iconv character conversion = support =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] STROKE Enable support for mouse gestures = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] RPLAY Enable RPlay support in FvwmEvent = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[*] SESSION_MGMT Enable Session Management support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[*] PNG Build with PNG graphics support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[*] SVG Build with SVG graphics support us= ing librsvg2=E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] BIDI Enable Asian bi-directional text s= upport =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] NLS Enable National Language Support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] IMLIB Enable imlib library (requires gtk= 12) =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82[ ] GNOME Enable GNOME desktop support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =20 Through the years FVWM2 has proven rock-solid for me. I can't recall that it ever crashed. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk9Cje8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWy9wCfR0KbC9iHXxezEzjtbWGC9fx0 0VYAnjRXyOzWgeCGEO4yzk0IGhjkoGlc =wFDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 18:20:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EB2106566B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8682F8FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1KIJaAT087647; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:19:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5E4CC12357; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:19:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:19:36 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Riccardo Garzelli Message-ID: <20120220181936.GB47889@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WhfpMioaduB5tiZL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:20:09 -0000 --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:35:43PM +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: > Dear Information service >=20 > I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD > OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can > run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. The best way to check is to take a LiveCD to the store and ask if you can b= oot the laptop that you'd like from that. > Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a > compatibility list? GIYF: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk9CjrgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW3wwCfbJPYJraL6oKckGk91gpH1gAf jucAn2xzTxmN3sHhgrVO3YCy/pqE0T6/ =WvR0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 19:11:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ED2106566B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A5E8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1KJBE8L020086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:11:15 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1KJBE8L020086 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329765075; bh=Mmzm8nuYwlT4VoyzE8Q4EiL6XwP/IJQEFdm27ztFvZo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=UDNT55/pm01FSFTrZBvKfpjYwBOFRkWrOEFOFFRfOXECdNcq5wzNjtUNGJNq3gbg7 MtwVeBclr2ipkBDTsLnvB44XV7QKr+2PApbdlwHZ4LyUBiXTCqlpLxdztEuUAkPUId El6yMqaaqMyqO/2qGHA+bhimqbcU9G869ur+Zv5o= Message-ID: <4F429ACB.7010302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:11:07 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alexus References: <4F4281C9.9060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4F42874B.3010404@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig13EF09925A1576B694D1C013" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsyslog-local.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:11:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig13EF09925A1576B694D1C013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/02/2012 17:52, alexus wrote: > what else I can do then? Wait until tomorrow and see what happens. > i don't need syslogd.. >=20 > this is vm, it runs nothing but squid, squid generates its own > logging, so no reason to run syslogd Well, it's up to you, but syslogd logs a lot more than the output of one application. Even if the machine is intended to run squid as its only core function, there's still a lot of other data of interest from other parts of the system. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig13EF09925A1576B694D1C013 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9CmtIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzdmQCfUpsvbo7tknQLFN1VIJQIbF9w E4AAn2aEfs6u+Zxb79c5u2yQqzQm24vu =PMgi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig13EF09925A1576B694D1C013-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 19:12:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDA21065677 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe08.c2i.net [212.247.154.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090388FC24 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:12:15 +0000 (UTC) X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50 Received: from [176.74.208.111] (account mc467741@c2i.net HELO laptop002.hselasky.homeunix.org) by mailfe08.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTPA id 243026132; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:02:11 +0100 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: Da Rock Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:00:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) X-Face: 'mmZ:T{)),Oru^0c+/}w'`gU1$ubmG?lp!=R4Wy\ELYo2)@'UZ24N@d2+AyewRX}mAm; Yp |U[@, _z/([?1bCfM{_"B<.J>mICJCHAzzGHI{y7{%JVz%R~yJHIji`y>Y}k1C4TfysrsUI -%GU9V5]iUZF&nRn9mJ'?&>O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202202000.23431.hselasky@c2i.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: webcamd and device numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:12:16 -0000 Hi, Use the -v option to enforce a custom Video device number. Match the USB adapters by VID+PID and serial number in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/webcamd --HPS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 19:35:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B6F106566B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD808FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-75-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.75.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B65E3CA5B; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:35:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1KJZFdW001983; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:35:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:35:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Riccardo Garzelli Message-Id: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:35:17 -0000 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: > I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD > OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can > run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. > Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a > compatibility list? Check the hardware compatibility list to find out which devices are compatible to FreeBSD, also see the release notes regarding version 9.0 of the OS. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html It's also a good idea to prepare a FreeBSD CD or DVD (or USB stick) that you can launch a FreeBSD system from (e. g. live file system with some diagnostic tools, to see if the hardware is supported). Ask if you can boot the system you're interested in buying with that test media, it shouldn't be a problem. You could also _ask_ for how the FreeBSD support is, but don't expect any useful answers from an average salesperson. :-) "Does it run FreeBSD?" - "Yes, you can click on the Internet with it, it's very shiny and comes with a wireless cable." =^_^= -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:06:55 -0000 vlan74: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3 ether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 inet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd inet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 inet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active vlan: 74 parent interface: re0 ifconfig vlan74 delete 10.1.26.1 will delete these static routes from route table: 10.3.0.1 10.7.26.2 UGHS 8 367 vlan74 10.1.6.0/23 10.7.26.2 UGS 275 166969 vlan74 Does this a bug? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 21:09:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F71106566B for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1513C8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so4971372wib.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:09:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.80.35 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.80.35; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rwmaillists@googlemail.com designates 10.180.80.35 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rwmaillists@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rwmaillists@googlemail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.80.35]) by 10.180.80.35 with SMTP id o3mr20519632wix.5.1329772196828 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:09:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jJAAO4CvYHoDri2P92QGGx8U/FupiGkvg9WQBxZMGDw=; b=oI49J0blhXfxX6c3EYj+urJ6OsJJ2KmYZTN9saTgRNa5v6h1YuxZcUNhwiVIQcsNVW NWSu/9jzrCq2wXWiPlOjzJs2I+PF1RElmm/Sy/c4G/JvVQ9T62G9k68BKYu12ggJ9Lf2 g+jBklw9Ei3aERFxkHZFaqkbPRfvCkyyfTBLc= Received: by 10.180.80.35 with SMTP id o3mr17046821wix.5.1329772196785; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:09:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm18722028wic.0.2012.02.20.13.09.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:09:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:09:53 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120220210953.581e5b99@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <367959862.20120220194708@yandex.ru> References: <367959862.20120220194708@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: some problems to enable journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:09:59 -0000 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:47:08 +0200 Êîíüêîâ Åâãåíèé wrote: > #gjournal label -f -s 256M /dev/ad10s1e > You aren't supposed to use -f and -s together: -f May be used to convert an existing file system to use gjournal, but only if the journal will be configured on a separate provider ... -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider is used for both data and journal. ... But I think the error should have been handled better, so I'd suggest you file a PR. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 21:44:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF430106566C for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F758FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa02 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q1KLWw7L026157 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:44:19 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 133x6g80yr-7 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:44:19 -0600 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.62) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:43:44 -0600 Message-ID: <4F42BE8E.3050304@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:43:42 -0800 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <201202201744.q1KHi3Ar010784@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201202201744.q1KHi3Ar010784@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.62] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-20_03:2012-02-20, 2012-02-20, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:44:21 -0000 On 02/20/2012 09:44, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Jerry wrote: > >> So, the OP posted a question about normal and/or preferred use >> of FreeBSD and people responded. Or do you consider this thread >> to be too technical? Maybe the discussion could fit in Hackers. > Yes, > hackers@ Would have been a better choice. > sysinstall@ Perhaps yet better, > arch@ Perhaps might consider it too trivial for them. > current@ If poster intended to get new code committed to current. > > For most topics on questions, that aren't of the "Help! I'm a struggling > lost newbie" class, there's a range of lists tuned to topics. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo > > Cheers, > Julian Hiya, We discussed this beforehand and decided questions was the better venue. I wanted to get some good general opinions, and definitely got some. I had hoped to avoid any type of descent into intellectual elitism, and on this point I failed. Dave -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 23:06:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C69B1065673 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE528FC08 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46874EFA for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C57374EF9; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:47:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p5B37A1B9.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.161.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B5DFA4EF6 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:46:52 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: Message-ID: <20120220234652.024cb492@dijkstra.cruwe.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/7xosvZ2v+qacWe9Lyr1csBb"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:06:23 -0000 --Sig_/7xosvZ2v+qacWe9Lyr1csBb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to get CUPS 1.5.2 from ports working with my printer and I encounter a problem exactly like a bug described in http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4008, albeit with a Kyocera 1030-D instead of= =20 a kyocera 2000. In essence, CUPS 1.5.+ is sending corrupted data to some printers and the remedies suggested by the CUPS-people do not work ... not in his case and neither in mine. As I cannot get CUPS 1.5.2 to work, I would like to test my assumption of a buggy 1.5.+ with an older version, preferably 1.4.8 which I have in a working state with that printer on a Solaris machine. Is there any documentation available on how to retrieve old ports from the cvs-attic? I just don't know how, so that I could test my assumption that CUPS 1.4.x should be working for my setup. Thanks and cheers, -- Christopher=20 TZ GMT + 1h --Sig_/7xosvZ2v+qacWe9Lyr1csBb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPQs1uAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwU2DAQAIvOf5Hl2MPqgV9Z4gNgwx+Z 4YYRKmu+y3b3aGIJDCyNwqkhj47OVhx285CkIYnYGjJhA2Zt4ZWdQjujDcrXUQ+j RNiBoS8nVUFJCcAiWfCvnCBtdBy/NVhzC4pYzp4ZFJqaIxmz9FAsMavOUEkxXdHu KJQD650x47TsYLc0ZhQt625vcZm98SWEK1U/LRc65+5SfD+oLXFpIzrSFYjDwBG2 8zWDbZ4yMEFoMLDKSHRYwVUNGAnBnd+lsCVl4rFuGjqBUxG3sZyJAJGw/DqMR+4T 6wjQ3ZK2Sq9k/N4N+ZmLF+x9aF1zvnS/Znb6zzl90cZHLy16L82J/PMwdfFWrGUh 1ULWoXzIQp7SETWkXOpO4yue1Yzc984+7kq6eUKEf5P4P8PVVHdLgrtRVECc1RTg 5khC5B6hOraigjc3rNKU6iZ0zEYwwzSygDgHrOJasqfgXJ1g06352Nl6EP2U+xHZ OhLZd1vNtav7OJ8uQcOTgy1eQV45jkHN4vwXiPNz/o+ETlEB8hKDbrw70CMRA3O7 rkWSyUvxfXB6o+qVgrC4Ur2F52dXMzTqALqlo+QB7haxPqCuy3K08dFgcKoJHVOE 9EeUJe8JzOnsvIJZmSDK+puLeEOrfNXlvZmLXLB1vkR38h6bHful8kaoubAgowv3 xTQajyuZfEPd5JlyLSPW =JMqe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/7xosvZ2v+qacWe9Lyr1csBb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 23:23:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF37C106594E for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F25A8FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-75-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.75.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54BA3D2C9; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:23:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1KNNJdS016663; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:23:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:23:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" Message-Id: <20120221002319.b7e645dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120220234652.024cb492@dijkstra.cruwe.de> References: <20120220234652.024cb492@dijkstra.cruwe.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:23:21 -0000 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:46:52 +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > Is there any documentation available on how to retrieve old ports from > the cvs-attic? I just don't know how, so that I could test my assumption > that CUPS 1.4.x should be working for my setup. There's a port to do so: portdowngrade. You can use it to obtain older versions of a port. (I've been using it successfully to downgrade xzgv to a working version.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 20 23:28:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D0C1065B39 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tim.j.stewart@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F41E8FC19 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so5570518wer.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of tim.j.stewart@gmail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.104.4; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of tim.j.stewart@gmail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=tim.j.stewart@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=tim.j.stewart@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.104.4]) by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr22080956wib.17.1329780515657 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:28:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZWqcrxdc0Wgq0rBDTm2mdz5uiJ9ws6H/kIZhssqct74=; b=aRuXydSXnVl8Nzv5ZzzI4o7TAA90ocfnptVWgU/7S+0TPDQMhKcuOo4pdbEDHgooHV BXMXpooJPFfgNqj/Cp76OzUzPFlEtHKeFf4eZRLiCH7w/g04a3wgEgLN3sgKzSTIAS2A jVZHupXHEKg2Fkb5WBx3vUBgOupIL3q00dwEw= Received: by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr18387318wib.17.1329778865190; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:01:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.173.11 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:00:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Stewart Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:00:45 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:55:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: netmap support in default kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:28:37 -0000 Hi, I just heard about netmap today and it seems like it's not baked into the default FreeBSD kernel at the moment. Are there plans to integrate netmap into the default FreeBSD kernel? If so, what is an estimated time line for its inclusion in the default kernel? Thanks. Tim Stewart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 00:49:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC291065672 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253518FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301295C28 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:03:23 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 599545C22 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:03:23 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:05 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:49:58 -0000 On 02/21/12 05:35, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:35:43 +0100, Riccardo Garzelli wrote: >> I was thinking of purchasing a new laptop and I wanted to go for FreeBSD >> OS. Unfortunately I'm no brainer in Unix so I'd like to find a PC that can >> run FreeBSD 9.0 out of the box. >> Could you either tell me which hardware are suitable or a link to a >> compatibility list? > Check the hardware compatibility list to find out which > devices are compatible to FreeBSD, also see the release > notes regarding version 9.0 of the OS. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/hardware.html > > It's also a good idea to prepare a FreeBSD CD or DVD (or > USB stick) that you can launch a FreeBSD system from (e. g. > live file system with some diagnostic tools, to see if the > hardware is supported). Ask if you can boot the system > you're interested in buying with that test media, it shouldn't > be a problem. You could also _ask_ for how the FreeBSD support > is, but don't expect any useful answers from an average > salesperson. :-) > > "Does it run FreeBSD?" - "Yes, you can click on the Internet > with it, it's very shiny and comes with a wireless cable." =^_^= LOL. I like that - I ended up selling a mobile phone to someone in a major retailer while a clueless salesperson attempted to answer their questions. When the salesperson came back to me to see what I wanted, I realised he wasn't going to know the answer either... To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now thanks to Adrianns work. Find one you like and run with it. If you have any issues post here and see if people have some answers that will make it work. I hang out here a lot for starters. Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons: 1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and error like crazy only once you start to use it. 2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play with that either. All the laptops (and possibly branded desktops) are getting the Window$ "virus". If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better. I did this with a touch screen years ago and "wowed" the salesperson - they generally have no clue about these things :) My advice: buy one and wing it... it will be alright mostly. My current laptops with FreeBSD: HP Compaq Presario CQ62 HP Compaq Presario CQ62 Asus A52N From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 01:08:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3E0106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5652E8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dagger.cc.vt.edu (dagger.cc.vt.edu [198.82.163.114]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1KM5skX004146 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:05:54 -0500 Received: from auth3.smtp.vt.edu (EHLO auth3.smtp.vt.edu) ([198.82.161.152]) by dagger.cc.vt.edu (MOS 4.3.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id TYE96510; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmather.tower.lib.vt.edu (pmather.tower.lib.vt.edu [128.173.51.28]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth3.smtp.vt.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1KM5rEB011819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:05:53 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Paul Mather In-Reply-To: <20120218104914.3811510656DB@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:05:53 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120218104914.3811510656DB@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 198.82.161.152 auth3.smtp.vt.edu paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu 5 none X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=dagger.cc.vt.edu X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A02020A.4F42C3C2.003B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:08:23 -0000 On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:39:53, Matthew Seaman = wrote: > On 17/02/2012 22:17, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Robison, Dave wrote: >>>> We'd like a show of hands to see if folks prefer the "old" style >>>> default with 4 partitions and swap, or the newer iteration with 1 >>>> partition and swap. >=20 >> For a user/desktop machine, I prefer one root partition. For other >> roles like a server, I prefer multiple partitions which have been >> sized for the intended usage. >=20 > I thought the installer switched to the one-partition style based on > disk size? Whatever. Personally I much prefer using one big = partition, > even for servers -- this applies to /, /usr, /usr/local, /var -- > standard OS level bits, and not to application specific bits like > partitions dedicated to RDBMS data areas (particularly if the > application needs to write a lot of data). Having /tmp on a separate > memory backed fiesystem is important though: if sshd can't create its > socket there, then you won't be able to login remotely and fix things. >=20 > The reasoning is simple: running out of space in any partition = requires > expensive sys-admin intervention to fix. The root partition has > historically been a particular problem in this regard. Even if it is > just log files filling up /var -- sure you can just remove some files, > but why would you keep the logs in the first place if they weren't > important? Splitting space up into many small pieces means each piece > has limited headroom in which to expand. Having effectively one = common > chunk of free space makes that scenario much less likely[*]. >=20 > Yes, in principle you can fill up the entire disk like this. However, > firstly, on FreeBSD that doesn't actually tend to kill the server > entirely, unless the workload is write-heavy (but see the caveat above > about application specific partitions) and the system will generally > carry on perfectly happily if you can get rid of some files and create > space. [Note: this is not true of most OSes -- FreeBSD is = particularly > good in this regard.] Secondly, typical server grade hardware will = have > something like 80--120GB for system drives nowadays. FreeBSD + a > selection of server applications takes under 5GB. Even allowing for = a > pretty large load of application data, you're going to have tens of Gb > of free space there. Generally your monitoring is going to flag that > the disk is filling up well before the space does run out. Yes, I = know > there are disaster scenarios where the disk fills up in minutes; = you're > screwed whatever partitioning scheme you use in those cases, just a = few > seconds slower than in the multiple partitions case. I'm coming into this thread part way through, so maybe this has been = pointed out already, but, if so, I didn't see it. It seems from reading this thread that the focus has been on the running = out of space aspect. Using multiple partitions has a value that goes = beyond that: it can afford extra protection and help enhance security = and even performance. Separate partitions can have different mount = options. (Even in the Linux world they recognise this: the NSA = hardening tips for RHEL 5 = [http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/os/redhat/rhel5-pamphlet-i731.pdf] = suggests putting areas with user-writeable directories on = separately-mounted file systems and to use mount options to limit user = access appropriately.) Options like noexec and nosuid may help improve = security. Options like noatime and async may help improve performance. Using multiple partitions is very helpful if you are backing up using = dump. It can also help segregate areas of high file system churn, e.g., = /usr/ports; /usr/obj; /usr/src; etc. I like to keep these on separate = file systems so I can treat them differently to system areas I consider = to be more stable and valuable. > [*] Mostly I prefer ZFS nowadays, which renders this whole argument > moot, as having one common pool of free space is exactly how ZFS = works. I almost always use ZFS-only installs these days, for exactly the = reasons you mention. You get the best of both worlds: pooled storage = (meaning not having to agonize over partition sizes) and fine-grained = control over file sets (meaning being able to tune attributes to enhance = security and performance). Cheers, Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 02:10:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD5F106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B898FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1L2AOgj022644; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:10:27 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:10:20 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202181447.32623.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <4F425C5B.3040005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F425C5B.3040005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:21:31 +0000 Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:10:30 -0000 Hi, On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to have several disks to run a serious system. > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users on several 5MB disks. > > > > Erich > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax > your memory as to when? it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was removable. This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. RL .. something like this was the disk name. The disks were all from DEC too. This was late 79, early 80. Yes, it was some time ago. The machine ran normally with 256KB of RAM with the whole institute as potential users. > > I came across an 80M disk a few years ago (at a time when 120G was the > largest), and I was thinking I could use that to prop up my swap space > by about 1 or 2% ;) > > That one was a quantum I think... > > During my tertiary education we used to get 2M of space as a user, I was > always filling it up in a few sessions. But I digress... The figures changed really very much in IT, but the concepts did not. Except when you are listening to marketing people. It was all invented yesterday only. On the side, I have had my first contact with some world wide net in 85 on a AT&T unix machine. The machine was connected directly to a 155MBit/s ATM line. Man, all of my later Internet lines have been slower. And I did not even realise what potential is in this technology. It was just too normal to be available at the university there. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 05:26:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA35106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17BA8FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RziEh-0003Vb-Ps for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:25:36 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:26:03 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:26:03 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120221052603.GC6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202181447.32623.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <4F425C5B.3040005@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:26:08 -0000 --Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > Hi, >=20 > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: >=20 > > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical -= trying > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine h= as had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to h= ave several disks to run a serious system. > > > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users o= n several 5MB disks. > > > > > > Erich > > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax=20 > > your memory as to when? >=20 > it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was remov= able. This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. RL= .. something like this was the disk name. >=20 I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB removable RL02, which we used for software distribution. We resold them to our customers at $170 each. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPQyrrAAoJEIpckszW26+R/ZcH/09hD7yRHPzFjSCAMhwsQ+FP ntqxeDDPmL2kbvSH9ZRwEZ8+TcGbqTL0zGpspPnc5XM4bWOu3IoPZZ9FVYfAvPCx Aa0kdInf2i8uVwy5+QSMzfasmu+1EgFOW3wSxWmH1tIEYPpEFmssygfpgkyxU+fa wPGvEAaqeXsEPZkDQMm/GBTdrVhuHqomC0LJ8dhhO+1PNYici1quwco9QLVmalzE SzCz+muVW8wbmEkhiodVK4a0kT5tD+BFgAmv6Eqhm0O+sOu5i8SmNumNtC6lt+0v N+lWS9HCuUpIjADfOvBLzXWBz8lerOOuwebWuRvcvWg4bTme99WMat++yGmU5Dc= =eZhB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Ycz6tD7Th1CMF4v7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 06:06:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D315106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE368FC16 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q1L66vQO003582; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:06:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:06:57 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201202210606.q1L66vQO003582@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: erich@alogreentechnologies.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:06:42 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to have several disks to run a serious system. > > > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users on several 5MB disks. > > > > > > Erich > > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax > > your memory as to when? > > it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was removable. > This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. RL .. > something like this was the disk name. AHA. probably an 'RL-05', cousin to the better known "RK-05" 14" media, in a 'cartridge'. I -think- it was an 'SMD' interface From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 06:20:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B123106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8548FC16 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rzj55-0000rC-Bq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:19:44 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:20:11 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:20:11 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120221062011.GE6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221052603.GC6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201202211240.53859.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K/NRh952CO+2tg14" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201202211240.53859.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:20:16 -0000 --K/NRh952CO+2tg14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > Hi, >=20 > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: > > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > > Hi, > > >=20 > > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > >=20 > > > > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophic= al - trying > > > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machi= ne has had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > > > > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need = to have several disks to run a serious system. > > > > > > > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 use= rs on several 5MB disks. > > > > > > > > > > Erich > > > > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And ta= x=20 > > > > your memory as to when? > > >=20 > > > it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was r= emovable. This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system= . RL .. something like this was the disk name. > > >=20 > >=20 > > I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB removable > > RL02, which we used for software distribution. We resold them to our > > customers at $170 each. >=20 > yes, this sound familiar. The RL02 came later. >=20 > I think that tapes were much more common for software distribution those = days. >=20 > I still remember the responsiveness of RSX-11 even compared to FreeBSD un= der all circumstances. Real time is real time. >=20 > Erich > >=20 Oh man -- we wrote process control software in Fortran-77 on RSX-11M to automate our software distribution processes. That was the best! DECNET to communicate between systems. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --K/NRh952CO+2tg14 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPQzebAAoJEIpckszW26+RlGMIAJcw9e469rha0O8BfmJtfUrY Srm5AiurmgJkFPU1jKm7y3cZHGd7Nx8rlc0Gkbn2AtwCSwmWyHOAx1XkHj+WZOPD 9dJYuefNTYiUbllSKBqjQj4o1B5C9+yOyyNOPbgV7MrHkn8YsM+ilVDzNu2LkELr 6LmJwEPNiP9DnA7Zg5nYXoeqTu07VgUt1Wayz5WoTTmX1z2xpWMnZjzuyBor137F GWlEhYtO0sz7ie3eEKq4GoKaTyEWZllRqVlpqaaOm78nYnY68InKrhuv5RDmxjB1 xCnlVJlPbkYSGjmniLasBL1rek48xSl7bqz6u4ADIg31jF2kgRole2b3DadV6j4= =udBa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K/NRh952CO+2tg14-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 06:53:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E18106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3838FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-96-229-186-65.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [96.229.186.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1L6rA6f049562; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20120221062011.GE6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:53:10 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2585F37E-7B1F-4E76-8925-838B40C0F4DE@lafn.org> References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221052603.GC6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201202211240.53859.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221062011.GE6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> To: Chip Camden X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:53:15 -0000 On 20 February 2012, at 22:20, Chip Camden wrote: >>> I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB = removable >>> RL02, which we used for software distribution. We resold them to = our >>> customers at $170 each. >>=20 >> yes, this sound familiar. The RL02 came later. >>=20 >> I think that tapes were much more common for software distribution = those days. >>=20 >> I still remember the responsiveness of RSX-11 even compared to = FreeBSD under all circumstances. Real time is real time. >>=20 >> Erich >>>=20 >=20 > Oh man -- we wrote process control software in Fortran-77 on RSX-11M = to > automate our software distribution processes. That was the best! = DECNET > to communicate between systems. RSX-11D was slicker than greased lightning. Used it for a number of = systems. The first 30 pages of the kernel source were the = documentation. The description of every table and the values for every = field. What each module did was documented at the top of the module. I = made numerous improvements to the kernel most of which were adopted by = DEC. However, it was nowhere near a fully featured OS. It was quite = bare bones. Great for real-time requirements. There was a guaranteed = maximum time that interrupts were disabled and it was very small. We = interfaced a number of instruments to it and none of them ever saw any = delays. Most of them automatically fed data to the computer. There was = no triggering of that. The instruments just pushed the data. The RK05 had one removable platter in a plastic housing. It used a = voice coil movement mechanism that had to be aligned every week or you = would lose your data. It didn't hold much and was quite slow. We used = those at first but the system couldn't quite meet its performance = requirements. I still have one of those platters on my wall at home. = Departure present from the unit. That particular platter had a head = crash so the remaining oxide had to be sanded off to sanitize it. The = timing side is out with lettering on it now. We used 4 RK05s in one = rack and each was mounted as a separate disk. The controller was single = threaded so you couldn't get any performance improvement with creative = disk assignments. We switched to 5 platter drives RP04s which were extremely reliable and = didn't need frequent maintenance. They also ran much faster than the = RK05s and held more than 10 times the data. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 07:29:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3666F106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.knezel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0C58FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so10695499lag.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of peter.knezel@gmail.com designates 10.152.115.40 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.115.40; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of peter.knezel@gmail.com designates 10.152.115.40 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=peter.knezel@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=peter.knezel@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.115.40]) by 10.152.115.40 with SMTP id jl8mr17881456lab.45.1329809355472 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NMO7I6WztC//HZsfq8EZ72bNpfkW8jH9hZ8hlFl/SD8=; b=iVpVaT/Vuv5w6O3y5ccR8ad/BUY+/AKUqAMbm8CDkzOrnButVXrhPSC6v7VpooFkkZ bllcoUR5wyeaoc/Zmw0hHKlcnMT5tSPX0AEm8nXHprZ7tagSFYtk1OmoMGHO+LXUj2J6 XD/BiSa+xZe07cfqMEw1TSPBLPXR24sNrtaPg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.115.40 with SMTP id jl8mr14982395lab.45.1329809353673; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.131.67 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:29:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F3CC11D.1080105@my.gd> References: <4F314AFB.8080901@my.gd> <4F3BEA73.9060005@my.gd> <4F3CC11D.1080105@my.gd> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:29:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: peter knezel To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:29:17 -0000 Hello Damien, preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or any CARP interface on master goes down, slave becomes master (but only on the CARP interface if only that went down). Can you have a look at my previous question??: if the different carp interfaces are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? Thanks and kind regards, Peter On 16/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Preemption is used to ensure that, if a CARP interface goes down on host > A, host B will then assume mastership for all interfaces. > > It prevents the nasty situation where you'd have, for example: > > Public IP: master on host A > Private IP: master on host B > > servers behind firewalls hosts A and B: > - traffic arrives on host A which creates a PF state > - servers reply via their default gateway, the CARP IP now master on host B > > Host B doesn't have a state for the traffic, drops it. > > > To enable preemption you need to run sysctl net.inet.carp.preempt=1 and > add the corresponding line to your sysctls file in etc. > > > On 2/15/12 7:04 PM, peter knezel wrote: >> Well, >> >> I am not fully familiar with CARP, but if the different carp interfaces >> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >> >> BTW, what is CARP preemption and how is it possible to enable it? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Peter >> >> On 15 February 2012 18:25, Damien Fleuriot > >> wrote: >> >> Sorry about the late reply, didn't see yours. >> >> What about enabling CARP preemption to ensure that when a carp >> interface >> goes down, the whole set does ? >> >> >> On 2/7/12 9:13 PM, peter knezel wrote: >> > Hello Damien, >> > >> > I did read your example but cannot get idea from it. >> > For three interfaces you have much more possibilities. >> > >> > Imagine you start the server from uuu state which is equal to >> > net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >> "ifconfig -a -u >> > |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp2 > >> /dev/null" >> > every 3)' >> > >> > Now you put down one carp interface - so system is in state : >> > *state one:* >> > (duu) || (udu) || (uud) <----which is same as !$net >> > run script1.sh >> > go to twoff >> > >> > now imagine, you put down any other carp interface: >> > *state twoff: * >> > (dud) || (ddu) || (udd) >> > run script2.sh >> > go to two >> > >> > *state two: * >> > put all interfaces up >> > run script3.sh >> > go to state one >> > >> > it means, this is one of the possibilities system can behave (this >> > situation does not describe all possible states - I have taken this >> > special example.) >> > >> > Now if you want to put up after putting down one carp interface, you >> > fail since it is in state twoff. >> > Only of you put down second carp interface it goes to state two and >> if >> > you put both up, it will go to state one. >> > >> > This is where my ifstated.conf fails to work. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > Peter Knezel >> > >> > >> > On 7 February 2012 17:02, Damien Fleuriot > >> >> > wrote: >> > >> > On 2/7/12 3:36 PM, peter knezel wrote: >> > > Hello all, >> > > >> > > I would like to ask somebody to explain me how the ifstated >> works >> > according to >> > > the following configuration file. >> > > I have three virtual carp interfaces carp0,carp1 and carp2. >> > > >> > > I try to understand the following setting: >> > > The server is in state one (all carp interfaces are up) and >> if there >> > > is carp down of any: >> > > one (carp0 or carp1 or carp2), >> > > two ([carp0 and carp1] or [carp0 and carp2] or [carp1 and >> carp2]), >> > > three interfaces (carp 0 and carp1 and carp2), server >> > > runs the script testdown.sh and put the server into state two. >> > > If all carp interfaces are up, the server runs the testup.sh >> and set >> > > the state to one. >> > > >> > >> > That is my understanding. >> > >> > >> > > Is it the way the system works? >> > > Or am I wrong? >> > > >> > > === >> > > init-state one >> > > >> > > net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >> > "ifconfig -a -u >> > > |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep >> carp2 > >> > /dev/null" >> > > every 3)' >> > > >> > > state one { >> > > if ( ! $net ) { >> > > run "/usr/local/testdown.sh" >> > > set-state two >> > > } >> > > } >> > > >> > > state two { >> > > if ( $net ) { >> > > run "/usr/local/testup.sh" >> > > set-state one >> > > } >> > > } >> > > === >> > > >> > > Is there any possibility to define and set ifstated.conf that >> > reacts when: >> > > >> > > any one of the carp interfaces is down - followed by >> another any >> > > other carp interface down >> > > >> > > >> > > I tried to define states: >> > > >> > > duu ="!carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >> > > udu ="carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >> > > uud ="carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >> > > ddu ="!carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up" >> > > dud ="!carp0.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >> > > udd ="!carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >> > > >> > > and used them but somehow I cannot incorporate all state >> changes and >> > > include it in ifstated.conf. >> > > >> > >> > >> > Works fine here, did you not have any luck with the file I >> posted >> > earlier ? 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[88.165.130.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id df3sm7811987wib.1.2012.02.20.23.43.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:43:46 -0800 (PST) References: <4F314AFB.8080901@my.gd> <4F3BEA73.9060005@my.gd> <4F3CC11D.1080105@my.gd> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:43:04 +0100 To: peter knezel X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkJPq/LTErbo+BUqmdRzjMu7NHAnswtHgXliGtuGdspHKRRTjvHVVfJgc/tP0LU2sD6lZOc Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:43:49 -0000 To be honest, I'm not sure it's a good idea to use different *interfaces*. Why don't you set multiple IPs on a single carp interface instead ? On 21 Feb 2012, at 08:29, peter knezel wrote: > Hello Damien, >=20 > preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or > any CARP interface on master > goes down, slave becomes master (but only on the CARP interface if > only that went down). >=20 > Can you have a look at my previous question??: > if the different carp interfaces > are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to > put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >=20 >=20 > Thanks and kind regards, >=20 > Peter >=20 > On 16/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Preemption is used to ensure that, if a CARP interface goes down on host >> A, host B will then assume mastership for all interfaces. >>=20 >> It prevents the nasty situation where you'd have, for example: >>=20 >> Public IP: master on host A >> Private IP: master on host B >>=20 >> servers behind firewalls hosts A and B: >> - traffic arrives on host A which creates a PF state >> - servers reply via their default gateway, the CARP IP now master on host= B >>=20 >> Host B doesn't have a state for the traffic, drops it. >>=20 >>=20 >> To enable preemption you need to run sysctl net.inet.carp.preempt=3D1 and= >> add the corresponding line to your sysctls file in etc. >>=20 >>=20 >> On 2/15/12 7:04 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>> Well, >>>=20 >>> I am not fully familiar with CARP, but if the different carp interfaces >>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>>=20 >>> BTW, what is CARP preemption and how is it possible to enable it? >>>=20 >>> Kind regards, >>>=20 >>> Peter >>>=20 >>> On 15 February 2012 18:25, Damien Fleuriot > >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Sorry about the late reply, didn't see yours. >>>=20 >>> What about enabling CARP preemption to ensure that when a carp >>> interface >>> goes down, the whole set does ? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 2/7/12 9:13 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>> Hello Damien, >>>>=20 >>>> I did read your example but cannot get idea from it. >>>> For three interfaces you have much more possibilities. >>>>=20 >>>> Imagine you start the server from uuu state which is equal to >>>> net =3D '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp2 > >>> /dev/null" >>>> every 3)' >>>>=20 >>>> Now you put down one carp interface - so system is in state : >>>> *state one:* >>>> (duu) || (udu) || (uud) <----which is same as !$net >>>> run script1.sh >>>> go to twoff >>>>=20 >>>> now imagine, you put down any other carp interface: >>>> *state twoff: * >>>> (dud) || (ddu) || (udd) >>>> run script2.sh >>>> go to two >>>>=20 >>>> *state two: * >>>> put all interfaces up >>>> run script3.sh >>>> go to state one >>>>=20 >>>> it means, this is one of the possibilities system can behave (this >>>> situation does not describe all possible states - I have taken this >>>> special example.) >>>>=20 >>>> Now if you want to put up after putting down one carp interface, you >>>> fail since it is in state twoff. >>>> Only of you put down second carp interface it goes to state two and >>> if >>>> you put both up, it will go to state one. >>>>=20 >>>> This is where my ifstated.conf fails to work. >>>>=20 >>>> Kind regards, >>>>=20 >>>> Peter Knezel >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 7 February 2012 17:02, Damien Fleuriot >> >> >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On 2/7/12 3:36 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>> Hello all, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I would like to ask somebody to explain me how the ifstated >>> works >>>> according to >>>>> the following configuration file. >>>>> I have three virtual carp interfaces carp0,carp1 and carp2. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I try to understand the following setting: >>>>> The server is in state one (all carp interfaces are up) and >>> if there >>>>> is carp down of any: >>>>> one (carp0 or carp1 or carp2), >>>>> two ([carp0 and carp1] or [carp0 and carp2] or [carp1 and >>> carp2]), >>>>> three interfaces (carp 0 and carp1 and carp2), server >>>>> runs the script testdown.sh and put the server into state two. >>>>> If all carp interfaces are up, the server runs the testup.sh >>> and set >>>>> the state to one. >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> That is my understanding. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> Is it the way the system works? >>>>> Or am I wrong? >>>>>=20 >>>>> =3D=3D=3D >>>>> init-state one >>>>>=20 >>>>> net =3D '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep >>> carp2 > >>>> /dev/null" >>>>> every 3)' >>>>>=20 >>>>> state one { >>>>> if ( ! $net ) { >>>>> run "/usr/local/testdown.sh" >>>>> set-state two >>>>> } >>>>> } >>>>>=20 >>>>> state two { >>>>> if ( $net ) { >>>>> run "/usr/local/testup.sh" >>>>> set-state one >>>>> } >>>>> } >>>>> =3D=3D=3D >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there any possibility to define and set ifstated.conf that >>>> reacts when: >>>>>=20 >>>>> any one of the carp interfaces is down - followed by >>> another any >>>>> other carp interface down >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> I tried to define states: >>>>>=20 >>>>> duu =3D"!carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>> udu =3D"carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>> uud =3D"carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>> ddu =3D"!carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up" >>>>> dud =3D"!carp0.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>> udd =3D"!carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>=20 >>>>> and used them but somehow I cannot incorporate all state >>> changes and >>>>> include it in ifstated.conf. >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Works fine here, did you not have any luck with the file I >>> posted >>>> earlier ? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> >>> >> > >>>> mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>> >>>> >> >" >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 07:43:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BCC106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B3B8FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1L7hq9t009449; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:43:54 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:43:50 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202211240.53859.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221062011.GE6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20120221062011.GE6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202211443.51096.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Chip Camden Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:43:59 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:20:11 Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: > > > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > > > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying > > > > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to have several disks to run a serious system. > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users on several 5MB disks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Erich > > > > > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax > > > > > your memory as to when? > > > > > > > > it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was removable. This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. RL .. something like this was the disk name. > > > > > > > > > > I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB removable > > > RL02, which we used for software distribution. We resold them to our > > > customers at $170 each. > > > > yes, this sound familiar. The RL02 came later. > > > > I think that tapes were much more common for software distribution those days. > > > > I still remember the responsiveness of RSX-11 even compared to FreeBSD under all circumstances. Real time is real time. > > > > Erich > > > > > Oh man -- we wrote process control software in Fortran-77 on RSX-11M to > automate our software distribution processes. That was the best! DECNET > to communicate between systems. I developed hardware for the Q bus but hardly wrote any software for the PDP 11. I worked later in industrial automation where many PDP 11 have been used those days. Erich > > -- > .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com > ..O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com > OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 08:02:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953F91065673 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108BA8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1L822gM035435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:02:02 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1L822gM035435 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329811322; bh=4zFp6QOJbwUWOjB9YrsHOQnt1TddWgst5mmliMypeI0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=cHJPnHRBP9LKcw+Dv87JbN53MbXVjp1eFzHhym1Uhb7pj7nvIFUhY31XRnvwQepxK DbTFB55hR7r4RCpYBW6f0e246xy/Lfk0vetraA094lveA75c/FMpgDCTjNK/t/zIEX MoyfjmdVRi7eZ2ypK8PaZvF+lkyTGRIpy4JyOnIo= Message-ID: <4F434F71.9010004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:01:53 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig27DD0A891555D3FC6DD26C4A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: netmap support in default kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:02:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig27DD0A891555D3FC6DD26C4A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/02/2012 23:00, Tim Stewart wrote: > I just heard about netmap > today and it seems like > it's not baked into the default FreeBSD kernel at > the moment. >=20 > Are there plans to integrate netmap into the default FreeBSD kernel? >=20 > If so, what is an estimated time line for its inclusion in the default > kernel? Given the performance figures quoted in that article, I certainly hope so. Actually, looking at the system sources: worm:/usr/src:% find . -iname '*netmap*' =2E/sys/net/netmap_user.h =2E/sys/net/netmap.h =2E/sys/dev/netmap =2E/sys/dev/netmap/ixgbe_netmap.h =2E/sys/dev/netmap/if_em_netmap.h =2E/sys/dev/netmap/netmap.c =2E/sys/dev/netmap/if_igb_netmap.h =2E/sys/dev/netmap/netmap_kern.h =2E/sys/dev/netmap/if_lem_netmap.h =2E/sys/dev/netmap/if_re_netmap.h =2E/tools/tools/netmap =2E/share/man/man4/netmap.4 Looks like it's already available in stable/9, but not in versions earlier than 9.x. Closer inspection shows that would have to be compiled into a custom kernel in order to be used. Note that each different network adaptor needs special coding in order to support netmap, so judging by the above, you'ld need any of ixgbe(4), em(4), igb(4) or re(4). Or whatever lem is -- doesn't have a man page, but it seems to be some sort of variant on em(4). On your specific question of when it might become part of a default kernel, I can't say. However, you might get a more knowledgeable answer if you ask on freebsd-hackers@... or freebsd-net@... 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[88.165.130.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h19sm20874643wiw.9.2012.02.21.00.15.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:15:37 -0800 (PST) References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <6A522128-E07D-46E4-B6B5-10C1F91CEE43@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:14:56 +0100 To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl4DfkRdVWgS8L4hc+dJfzNYDgGKfN4II/i6aEGJATTmTVfffnVUD3TCHPUKzrtoRZ1BWUi Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:15:39 -0000 On 20 Feb 2012, at 21:06, =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=95=D0= =B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9 wrote: >=20 > vlan74: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1= 500 > options=3D3 > ether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 > inet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd > inet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 > inet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 > nd6 options=3D29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > vlan: 74 parent interface: re0 >=20 > ifconfig vlan74 delete 10.1.26.1 >=20 > will delete these static routes from route table: >=20 > 10.3.0.1 10.7.26.2 UGHS 8 367 vlan74 > 10.1.6.0/23 10.7.26.2 UGS 275 166969 vlan74 >=20 > Does this a bug? >=20 I don't know if it's a bug or intended, but I do know you should use /32 ali= ases for additional IPs, not your original netmask.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 08:34:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2620106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E5E8FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1L8YS4D036160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:34:28 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1L8YS4D036160 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329813268; bh=vfNku2pBxJZuD7ctbQmeFNfDZ+s7k10cCGAfmqSldWk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=Ada9BuNsVLjAmQgj/pKDLOsUhIsj3Xig/z52/QeEjPU/q+Dq7BngyBPduykrfMWGM Jx8seV+DC9Nk12oBBbGjaxvGuPTzZypEiVtHR+xfPZaPerKaflW1DealcilJOBwNsy NbfKs2dddeT3rLLs1mcFISy6xpG6VG1DEcAvlcE0= Message-ID: <4F43570D.7050402@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:34:21 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> <6A522128-E07D-46E4-B6B5-10C1F91CEE43@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <6A522128-E07D-46E4-B6B5-10C1F91CEE43@my.gd> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7DB4C880848C25734249435B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:34:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7DB4C880848C25734249435B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/02/2012 08:14, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > I don't know if it's a bug or intended, but I do know you should use > /32 aliases for additional IPs, not your original netmask. Actually, it's optional nowadays. Either way works. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7DB4C880848C25734249435B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9DVxQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzGoACcD+eL6I+/MpxjjndZo+/lAIHL cdwAn3FtrbtIvyRaafe6Ue9FG8XxqAzU =AK0n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7DB4C880848C25734249435B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 09:06:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354BA106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3A48FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjg1 with SMTP id jg1so6993348bkc.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.136.197 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.136.197; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.136.197 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ml@my.gd Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.136.197]) by 10.204.136.197 with SMTP id s5mr13269304bkt.9.1329815169046 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.136.197 with SMTP id s5mr10674521bkt.9.1329815168866; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jc4sm44008802bkc.7.2012.02.21.01.06.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:06:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F435E7E.60801@my.gd> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:06:06 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> <6A522128-E07D-46E4-B6B5-10C1F91CEE43@my.gd> <4F43570D.7050402@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F43570D.7050402@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmH9VUkr410dvHmQP01CfQb0Y6/fRq9ZJ4lQ+UZDwAxnAKFmMz49HWrzv7kAt59LIovVT7B Subject: Re: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:06:12 -0000 On 2/21/12 9:34 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 21/02/2012 08:14, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> I don't know if it's a bug or intended, but I do know you should use >> /32 aliases for additional IPs, not your original netmask. > > Actually, it's optional nowadays. Either way works. > Well idk, seeing his post I'm not sure it works that well ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 10:48:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B961065672 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.knezel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320EE8FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so11000057lag.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of peter.knezel@gmail.com designates 10.152.109.193 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.109.193; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of peter.knezel@gmail.com designates 10.152.109.193 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=peter.knezel@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=peter.knezel@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.109.193]) by 10.152.109.193 with SMTP id hu1mr18412406lab.38.1329821295923 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:48:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2AriPKwV3/40GHZqMCHBc/Z1zSGJa3T4GKzFkay4D0U=; b=ZaeTrmU7x+VCzcBKwaW5ppCpGdmevbMhb/qPiU/RQTt9+Qe1j9NMnMzMWS0k7dbjdL ndPxDyBZ8D1L6TO1FnsAXUIfaRyY6DshG/kAQbJce4iyc55HAFKvletaBabtbPqGjVbV 1aV7+hvEYGL4KgF1KqZL+3RPDaxizfZsnSuCQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.109.193 with SMTP id hu1mr15412980lab.38.1329821295836; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.131.67 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:48:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F314AFB.8080901@my.gd> <4F3BEA73.9060005@my.gd> <4F3CC11D.1080105@my.gd> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:48:15 +0100 Message-ID: From: peter knezel To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:48:17 -0000 Do ypu mean that only carp0 is defined on both servers and it has three different IPs? How is it possible to define them so they are set for ftp, tftp and scp separately for the defined IPs? Kind regards, Peter On 21/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > To be honest, I'm not sure it's a good idea to use different *interfaces*. > > Why don't you set multiple IPs on a single carp interface instead ? > > On 21 Feb 2012, at 08:29, peter knezel wrote: > >> Hello Damien, >> >> preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or >> any CARP interface on master >> goes down, slave becomes master (but only on the CARP interface if >> only that went down). >> >> Can you have a look at my previous question??: >> if the different carp interfaces >> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >> >> >> Thanks and kind regards, >> >> Peter >> >> On 16/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>> Preemption is used to ensure that, if a CARP interface goes down on host >>> A, host B will then assume mastership for all interfaces. >>> >>> It prevents the nasty situation where you'd have, for example: >>> >>> Public IP: master on host A >>> Private IP: master on host B >>> >>> servers behind firewalls hosts A and B: >>> - traffic arrives on host A which creates a PF state >>> - servers reply via their default gateway, the CARP IP now master on host >>> B >>> >>> Host B doesn't have a state for the traffic, drops it. >>> >>> >>> To enable preemption you need to run sysctl net.inet.carp.preempt=1 and >>> add the corresponding line to your sysctls file in etc. >>> >>> >>> On 2/15/12 7:04 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>> Well, >>>> >>>> I am not fully familiar with CARP, but if the different carp interfaces >>>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>>> >>>> BTW, what is CARP preemption and how is it possible to enable it? >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On 15 February 2012 18:25, Damien Fleuriot > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry about the late reply, didn't see yours. >>>> >>>> What about enabling CARP preemption to ensure that when a carp >>>> interface >>>> goes down, the whole set does ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/7/12 9:13 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>> Hello Damien, >>>>> >>>>> I did read your example but cannot get idea from it. >>>>> For three interfaces you have much more possibilities. >>>>> >>>>> Imagine you start the server from uuu state which is equal to >>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp2 > >>>> /dev/null" >>>>> every 3)' >>>>> >>>>> Now you put down one carp interface - so system is in state : >>>>> *state one:* >>>>> (duu) || (udu) || (uud) <----which is same as !$net >>>>> run script1.sh >>>>> go to twoff >>>>> >>>>> now imagine, you put down any other carp interface: >>>>> *state twoff: * >>>>> (dud) || (ddu) || (udd) >>>>> run script2.sh >>>>> go to two >>>>> >>>>> *state two: * >>>>> put all interfaces up >>>>> run script3.sh >>>>> go to state one >>>>> >>>>> it means, this is one of the possibilities system can behave (this >>>>> situation does not describe all possible states - I have taken this >>>>> special example.) >>>>> >>>>> Now if you want to put up after putting down one carp interface, you >>>>> fail since it is in state twoff. >>>>> Only of you put down second carp interface it goes to state two and >>>> if >>>>> you put both up, it will go to state one. >>>>> >>>>> This is where my ifstated.conf fails to work. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Peter Knezel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7 February 2012 17:02, Damien Fleuriot >>> >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2/7/12 3:36 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to ask somebody to explain me how the ifstated >>>> works >>>>> according to >>>>>> the following configuration file. >>>>>> I have three virtual carp interfaces carp0,carp1 and carp2. >>>>>> >>>>>> I try to understand the following setting: >>>>>> The server is in state one (all carp interfaces are up) and >>>> if there >>>>>> is carp down of any: >>>>>> one (carp0 or carp1 or carp2), >>>>>> two ([carp0 and carp1] or [carp0 and carp2] or [carp1 and >>>> carp2]), >>>>>> three interfaces (carp 0 and carp1 and carp2), server >>>>>> runs the script testdown.sh and put the server into state two. >>>>>> If all carp interfaces are up, the server runs the testup.sh >>>> and set >>>>>> the state to one. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is my understanding. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Is it the way the system works? >>>>>> Or am I wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> === >>>>>> init-state one >>>>>> >>>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep >>>> carp2 > >>>>> /dev/null" >>>>>> every 3)' >>>>>> >>>>>> state one { >>>>>> if ( ! $net ) { >>>>>> run "/usr/local/testdown.sh" >>>>>> set-state two >>>>>> } >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> state two { >>>>>> if ( $net ) { >>>>>> run "/usr/local/testup.sh" >>>>>> set-state one >>>>>> } >>>>>> } >>>>>> === >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any possibility to define and set ifstated.conf that >>>>> reacts when: >>>>>> >>>>>> any one of the carp interfaces is down - followed by >>>> another any >>>>>> other carp interface down >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried to define states: >>>>>> >>>>>> duu ="!carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>> udu ="carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>> uud ="carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>> ddu ="!carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up" >>>>>> dud ="!carp0.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>> udd ="!carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>> >>>>>> and used them but somehow I cannot incorporate all state >>>> changes and >>>>>> include it in ifstated.conf. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Works fine here, did you not have any luck with the file I >>>> posted >>>>> earlier ? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>>> >>>>> >>> >" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 10:54:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9331065672 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AADC8FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjg1 with SMTP id jg1so7085798bkc.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.148.90 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.148.90; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.148.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ml@my.gd Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.148.90]) by 10.204.148.90 with SMTP id o26mr9726247bkv.121.1329821644252 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.148.90 with SMTP id o26mr7791071bkv.121.1329821643345; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x20sm44613167bka.9.2012.02.21.02.54.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:54:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F4377C9.5090804@my.gd> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:54:01 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter knezel References: <4F314AFB.8080901@my.gd> <4F3BEA73.9060005@my.gd> <4F3CC11D.1080105@my.gd> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQndsVzRxT0bENRtkIguSGV2qr6aml4++HeCsVJiQKg3DzL5D45bi16vtfoNk3YVjkVgFNKF Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:54:05 -0000 Yes, I do mean you can have several IPs on a single CARP interface, see the example below: carp17: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 inet 46.182.41.72 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.76 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.77 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.78 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.79 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.80 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.81 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.82 netmask 0xffffffff inet 46.182.41.83 netmask 0xffffffff carp: MASTER vhid 117 advbase 1 advskew 100 See the rc.conf bit where I set the IPs: # WAN CARP ipv4_addrs_carp17="46.182.41.72/32 46.182.41.76/32 46.182.41.77/32 46.182.41.78/32 46.182.41.79/32 46.182.41.80/32 46.182.41.81/32 46.182.41.82/32 46.182.41.83/32" ifconfig_carp17="vhid 117 pass [removed] advskew 100" Regarding dedicating a given IP to a given service, you are supposed to do that in the service's configuration, when telling it which IP address to bind to. You can also use pf or ipfw to filter the services allowed on a given IP. On 2/21/12 11:48 AM, peter knezel wrote: > Do ypu mean that only carp0 is defined on both servers and it has > three different IPs? > How is it possible to define them so they are set for ftp, tftp and > scp separately for the defined IPs? > > Kind regards, > > Peter > > On 21/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> To be honest, I'm not sure it's a good idea to use different *interfaces*. >> >> Why don't you set multiple IPs on a single carp interface instead ? >> >> On 21 Feb 2012, at 08:29, peter knezel wrote: >> >>> Hello Damien, >>> >>> preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or >>> any CARP interface on master >>> goes down, slave becomes master (but only on the CARP interface if >>> only that went down). >>> >>> Can you have a look at my previous question??: >>> if the different carp interfaces >>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>> >>> >>> Thanks and kind regards, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On 16/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>>> Preemption is used to ensure that, if a CARP interface goes down on host >>>> A, host B will then assume mastership for all interfaces. >>>> >>>> It prevents the nasty situation where you'd have, for example: >>>> >>>> Public IP: master on host A >>>> Private IP: master on host B >>>> >>>> servers behind firewalls hosts A and B: >>>> - traffic arrives on host A which creates a PF state >>>> - servers reply via their default gateway, the CARP IP now master on host >>>> B >>>> >>>> Host B doesn't have a state for the traffic, drops it. >>>> >>>> >>>> To enable preemption you need to run sysctl net.inet.carp.preempt=1 and >>>> add the corresponding line to your sysctls file in etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/15/12 7:04 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>> Well, >>>>> >>>>> I am not fully familiar with CARP, but if the different carp interfaces >>>>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>>>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>>>> >>>>> BTW, what is CARP preemption and how is it possible to enable it? >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> On 15 February 2012 18:25, Damien Fleuriot > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sorry about the late reply, didn't see yours. >>>>> >>>>> What about enabling CARP preemption to ensure that when a carp >>>>> interface >>>>> goes down, the whole set does ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/7/12 9:13 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>> Hello Damien, >>>>>> >>>>>> I did read your example but cannot get idea from it. >>>>>> For three interfaces you have much more possibilities. >>>>>> >>>>>> Imagine you start the server from uuu state which is equal to >>>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp2 > >>>>> /dev/null" >>>>>> every 3)' >>>>>> >>>>>> Now you put down one carp interface - so system is in state : >>>>>> *state one:* >>>>>> (duu) || (udu) || (uud) <----which is same as !$net >>>>>> run script1.sh >>>>>> go to twoff >>>>>> >>>>>> now imagine, you put down any other carp interface: >>>>>> *state twoff: * >>>>>> (dud) || (ddu) || (udd) >>>>>> run script2.sh >>>>>> go to two >>>>>> >>>>>> *state two: * >>>>>> put all interfaces up >>>>>> run script3.sh >>>>>> go to state one >>>>>> >>>>>> it means, this is one of the possibilities system can behave (this >>>>>> situation does not describe all possible states - I have taken this >>>>>> special example.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Now if you want to put up after putting down one carp interface, you >>>>>> fail since it is in state twoff. >>>>>> Only of you put down second carp interface it goes to state two and >>>>> if >>>>>> you put both up, it will go to state one. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is where my ifstated.conf fails to work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter Knezel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 February 2012 17:02, Damien Fleuriot >>>> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/7/12 3:36 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to ask somebody to explain me how the ifstated >>>>> works >>>>>> according to >>>>>>> the following configuration file. >>>>>>> I have three virtual carp interfaces carp0,carp1 and carp2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I try to understand the following setting: >>>>>>> The server is in state one (all carp interfaces are up) and >>>>> if there >>>>>>> is carp down of any: >>>>>>> one (carp0 or carp1 or carp2), >>>>>>> two ([carp0 and carp1] or [carp0 and carp2] or [carp1 and >>>>> carp2]), >>>>>>> three interfaces (carp 0 and carp1 and carp2), server >>>>>>> runs the script testdown.sh and put the server into state two. >>>>>>> If all carp interfaces are up, the server runs the testup.sh >>>>> and set >>>>>>> the state to one. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is my understanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it the way the system works? >>>>>>> Or am I wrong? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> === >>>>>>> init-state one >>>>>>> >>>>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep >>>>> carp2 > >>>>>> /dev/null" >>>>>>> every 3)' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> state one { >>>>>>> if ( ! $net ) { >>>>>>> run "/usr/local/testdown.sh" >>>>>>> set-state two >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> state two { >>>>>>> if ( $net ) { >>>>>>> run "/usr/local/testup.sh" >>>>>>> set-state one >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> === >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there any possibility to define and set ifstated.conf that >>>>>> reacts when: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> any one of the carp interfaces is down - followed by >>>>> another any >>>>>>> other carp interface down >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried to define states: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> duu ="!carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>>> udu ="carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>>> uud ="carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>> ddu ="!carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up" >>>>>>> dud ="!carp0.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>> udd ="!carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and used them but somehow I cannot incorporate all state >>>>> changes and >>>>>>> include it in ifstated.conf. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Works fine here, did you not have any luck with the file I >>>>> posted >>>>>> earlier ? >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > >>>>>> mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 11:23:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6075106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.knezel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3026A8FC18 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so11057626lag.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of peter.knezel@gmail.com designates 10.112.25.225 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.25.225; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of peter.knezel@gmail.com designates 10.112.25.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=peter.knezel@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=peter.knezel@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.25.225]) by 10.112.25.225 with SMTP id f1mr9322051lbg.6.1329823427894 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:23:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vDSNTrW9+SQNZ6+sKLmoyGH0AD+OkqvaSsuO0PXKSAw=; b=kuOkSw5881jTDb7OUTL/Ezl8wn5wwdSZfme9Kl1HOHFazMZXoqbiUNYhj11USsTGDz rbCwenzMLL6nGHjSWBH6k/UmklfuyO6Hq/Mw7kKxmNsvrzPz97o4LsV0Q0fY0wtKlLa2 Uto2Kj2GK78SvK+59PsSVT0wbMwX/Wy4V3Ung= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.25.225 with SMTP id f1mr7803156lbg.6.1329823427816; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.131.67 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:23:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F4377C9.5090804@my.gd> References: <4F314AFB.8080901@my.gd> <4F3BEA73.9060005@my.gd> <4F3CC11D.1080105@my.gd> <4F4377C9.5090804@my.gd> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:23:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: peter knezel To: Damien Fleuriot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:23:49 -0000 Thanks Damien for the example. In this case when I have only one carp interface, it is much easier to define the states in ifstated, isn't? It is either up or not and no other states are needed to check. Regards, Peter On 21/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Yes, I do mean you can have several IPs on a single CARP interface, see > the example below: > > carp17: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 > inet 46.182.41.72 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.76 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.77 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.78 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.79 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.80 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.81 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.82 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 46.182.41.83 netmask 0xffffffff > carp: MASTER vhid 117 advbase 1 advskew 100 > > > > See the rc.conf bit where I set the IPs: > # WAN CARP > ipv4_addrs_carp17="46.182.41.72/32 46.182.41.76/32 46.182.41.77/32 > 46.182.41.78/32 46.182.41.79/32 46.182.41.80/32 46.182.41.81/32 > 46.182.41.82/32 46.182.41.83/32" > ifconfig_carp17="vhid 117 pass [removed] advskew 100" > > > > Regarding dedicating a given IP to a given service, you are supposed to > do that in the service's configuration, when telling it which IP address > to bind to. > > You can also use pf or ipfw to filter the services allowed on a given IP. > > > On 2/21/12 11:48 AM, peter knezel wrote: >> Do ypu mean that only carp0 is defined on both servers and it has >> three different IPs? >> How is it possible to define them so they are set for ftp, tftp and >> scp separately for the defined IPs? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Peter >> >> On 21/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>> To be honest, I'm not sure it's a good idea to use different >>> *interfaces*. >>> >>> Why don't you set multiple IPs on a single carp interface instead ? >>> >>> On 21 Feb 2012, at 08:29, peter knezel wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Damien, >>>> >>>> preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or >>>> any CARP interface on master >>>> goes down, slave becomes master (but only on the CARP interface if >>>> only that went down). >>>> >>>> Can you have a look at my previous question??: >>>> if the different carp interfaces >>>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks and kind regards, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On 16/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>>>> Preemption is used to ensure that, if a CARP interface goes down on >>>>> host >>>>> A, host B will then assume mastership for all interfaces. >>>>> >>>>> It prevents the nasty situation where you'd have, for example: >>>>> >>>>> Public IP: master on host A >>>>> Private IP: master on host B >>>>> >>>>> servers behind firewalls hosts A and B: >>>>> - traffic arrives on host A which creates a PF state >>>>> - servers reply via their default gateway, the CARP IP now master on >>>>> host >>>>> B >>>>> >>>>> Host B doesn't have a state for the traffic, drops it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To enable preemption you need to run sysctl net.inet.carp.preempt=1 and >>>>> add the corresponding line to your sysctls file in etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/15/12 7:04 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>> Well, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not fully familiar with CARP, but if the different carp >>>>>> interfaces >>>>>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>>>>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, what is CARP preemption and how is it possible to enable it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> On 15 February 2012 18:25, Damien Fleuriot >>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry about the late reply, didn't see yours. >>>>>> >>>>>> What about enabling CARP preemption to ensure that when a carp >>>>>> interface >>>>>> goes down, the whole set does ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/7/12 9:13 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Damien, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did read your example but cannot get idea from it. >>>>>>> For three interfaces you have much more possibilities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Imagine you start the server from uuu state which is equal to >>>>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp2 > >>>>>> /dev/null" >>>>>>> every 3)' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now you put down one carp interface - so system is in state : >>>>>>> *state one:* >>>>>>> (duu) || (udu) || (uud) <----which is same as !$net >>>>>>> run script1.sh >>>>>>> go to twoff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> now imagine, you put down any other carp interface: >>>>>>> *state twoff: * >>>>>>> (dud) || (ddu) || (udd) >>>>>>> run script2.sh >>>>>>> go to two >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *state two: * >>>>>>> put all interfaces up >>>>>>> run script3.sh >>>>>>> go to state one >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it means, this is one of the possibilities system can behave (this >>>>>>> situation does not describe all possible states - I have taken this >>>>>>> special example.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now if you want to put up after putting down one carp interface, you >>>>>>> fail since it is in state twoff. >>>>>>> Only of you put down second carp interface it goes to state two and >>>>>> if >>>>>>> you put both up, it will go to state one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is where my ifstated.conf fails to work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter Knezel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7 February 2012 17:02, Damien Fleuriot >>>>> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/7/12 3:36 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to ask somebody to explain me how the ifstated >>>>>> works >>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>> the following configuration file. >>>>>>>> I have three virtual carp interfaces carp0,carp1 and carp2. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I try to understand the following setting: >>>>>>>> The server is in state one (all carp interfaces are up) and >>>>>> if there >>>>>>>> is carp down of any: >>>>>>>> one (carp0 or carp1 or carp2), >>>>>>>> two ([carp0 and carp1] or [carp0 and carp2] or [carp1 and >>>>>> carp2]), >>>>>>>> three interfaces (carp 0 and carp1 and carp2), server >>>>>>>> runs the script testdown.sh and put the server into state two. >>>>>>>> If all carp interfaces are up, the server runs the testup.sh >>>>>> and set >>>>>>>> the state to one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is my understanding. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is it the way the system works? >>>>>>>> Or am I wrong? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> === >>>>>>>> init-state one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>>>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep >>>>>> carp2 > >>>>>>> /dev/null" >>>>>>>> every 3)' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> state one { >>>>>>>> if ( ! $net ) { >>>>>>>> run "/usr/local/testdown.sh" >>>>>>>> set-state two >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> state two { >>>>>>>> if ( $net ) { >>>>>>>> run "/usr/local/testup.sh" >>>>>>>> set-state one >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>> === >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there any possibility to define and set ifstated.conf that >>>>>>> reacts when: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> any one of the carp interfaces is down - followed by >>>>>> another any >>>>>>>> other carp interface down >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried to define states: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> duu ="!carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>> udu ="carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>> uud ="carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>> ddu ="!carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up" >>>>>>>> dud ="!carp0.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>> udd ="!carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and used them but somehow I cannot incorporate all state >>>>>> changes and >>>>>>>> include it in ifstated.conf. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Works fine here, did you not have any luck with the file I >>>>>> posted >>>>>>> earlier ? >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> mailing list >>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 11:51:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1084E1065673 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF0E8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjg1 with SMTP id jg1so7138166bkc.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.157.17 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.157.17; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.157.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ml@my.gd Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.157.17]) by 10.204.157.17 with SMTP id z17mr12996155bkw.37.1329825097885 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.157.17 with SMTP id z17mr10448784bkw.37.1329825097625; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w15sm45067960bku.0.2012.02.21.03.51.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:51:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F438546.7080101@my.gd> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:51:34 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter knezel References: <4F314AFB.8080901@my.gd> <4F3BEA73.9060005@my.gd> <4F3CC11D.1080105@my.gd> <4F4377C9.5090804@my.gd> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmJJzbAyI/3zDJahcPJHb/Qx4GwDfvl1SHw2sJSbLcKU/ADZSHG7TGmvo95Pc+o6uNV33OE Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: From analysis of a simple ifstated.conf to more compex example X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:51:40 -0000 Yes, that would enormously simplify your ifstated setup. I encourage you to try with a single interface and multiple IPs on it. Be careful to use /32 netmasks for your aliased IPs, people have run into trouble for using longer prefixes, like /24 for example. Also be careful when adding/removing IPs to the carp interfaces. If you don't have exactly the same IPs on both carp interfaces (server A and server B), then the hosts will consider them to be different CARP instances and they'll be MASTER on both firewalls. You don't want this, obviously. On 2/21/12 12:23 PM, peter knezel wrote: > Thanks Damien for the example. > In this case when I have only one carp interface, it is much easier to > define the states > in ifstated, isn't? It is either up or not and no other states are > needed to check. > > Regards, > > Peter > > On 21/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Yes, I do mean you can have several IPs on a single CARP interface, see >> the example below: >> >> carp17: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 >> inet 46.182.41.72 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.76 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.77 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.78 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.79 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.80 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.81 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.82 netmask 0xffffffff >> inet 46.182.41.83 netmask 0xffffffff >> carp: MASTER vhid 117 advbase 1 advskew 100 >> >> >> >> See the rc.conf bit where I set the IPs: >> # WAN CARP >> ipv4_addrs_carp17="46.182.41.72/32 46.182.41.76/32 46.182.41.77/32 >> 46.182.41.78/32 46.182.41.79/32 46.182.41.80/32 46.182.41.81/32 >> 46.182.41.82/32 46.182.41.83/32" >> ifconfig_carp17="vhid 117 pass [removed] advskew 100" >> >> >> >> Regarding dedicating a given IP to a given service, you are supposed to >> do that in the service's configuration, when telling it which IP address >> to bind to. >> >> You can also use pf or ipfw to filter the services allowed on a given IP. >> >> >> On 2/21/12 11:48 AM, peter knezel wrote: >>> Do ypu mean that only carp0 is defined on both servers and it has >>> three different IPs? >>> How is it possible to define them so they are set for ftp, tftp and >>> scp separately for the defined IPs? >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On 21/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>>> To be honest, I'm not sure it's a good idea to use different >>>> *interfaces*. >>>> >>>> Why don't you set multiple IPs on a single carp interface instead ? >>>> >>>> On 21 Feb 2012, at 08:29, peter knezel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Damien, >>>>> >>>>> preemption is set on both systems, so when master server goes down or >>>>> any CARP interface on master >>>>> goes down, slave becomes master (but only on the CARP interface if >>>>> only that went down). >>>>> >>>>> Can you have a look at my previous question??: >>>>> if the different carp interfaces >>>>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>>>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> On 16/02/2012, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>>>>> Preemption is used to ensure that, if a CARP interface goes down on >>>>>> host >>>>>> A, host B will then assume mastership for all interfaces. >>>>>> >>>>>> It prevents the nasty situation where you'd have, for example: >>>>>> >>>>>> Public IP: master on host A >>>>>> Private IP: master on host B >>>>>> >>>>>> servers behind firewalls hosts A and B: >>>>>> - traffic arrives on host A which creates a PF state >>>>>> - servers reply via their default gateway, the CARP IP now master on >>>>>> host >>>>>> B >>>>>> >>>>>> Host B doesn't have a state for the traffic, drops it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To enable preemption you need to run sysctl net.inet.carp.preempt=1 and >>>>>> add the corresponding line to your sysctls file in etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/15/12 7:04 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>>> Well, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not fully familiar with CARP, but if the different carp >>>>>>> interfaces >>>>>>> are used for different purpose (ftp, tftp, scp), is it a good idea to >>>>>>> put down all of them, if they are able to serve their purpose? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW, what is CARP preemption and how is it possible to enable it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15 February 2012 18:25, Damien Fleuriot >>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry about the late reply, didn't see yours. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What about enabling CARP preemption to ensure that when a carp >>>>>>> interface >>>>>>> goes down, the whole set does ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/7/12 9:13 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Damien, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did read your example but cannot get idea from it. >>>>>>>> For three interfaces you have much more possibilities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Imagine you start the server from uuu state which is equal to >>>>>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>>>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp2 > >>>>>>> /dev/null" >>>>>>>> every 3)' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now you put down one carp interface - so system is in state : >>>>>>>> *state one:* >>>>>>>> (duu) || (udu) || (uud) <----which is same as !$net >>>>>>>> run script1.sh >>>>>>>> go to twoff >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now imagine, you put down any other carp interface: >>>>>>>> *state twoff: * >>>>>>>> (dud) || (ddu) || (udd) >>>>>>>> run script2.sh >>>>>>>> go to two >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *state two: * >>>>>>>> put all interfaces up >>>>>>>> run script3.sh >>>>>>>> go to state one >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it means, this is one of the possibilities system can behave (this >>>>>>>> situation does not describe all possible states - I have taken this >>>>>>>> special example.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now if you want to put up after putting down one carp interface, you >>>>>>>> fail since it is in state twoff. >>>>>>>> Only of you put down second carp interface it goes to state two and >>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> you put both up, it will go to state one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is where my ifstated.conf fails to work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Peter Knezel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 February 2012 17:02, Damien Fleuriot >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2/7/12 3:36 PM, peter knezel wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to ask somebody to explain me how the ifstated >>>>>>> works >>>>>>>> according to >>>>>>>>> the following configuration file. >>>>>>>>> I have three virtual carp interfaces carp0,carp1 and carp2. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I try to understand the following setting: >>>>>>>>> The server is in state one (all carp interfaces are up) and >>>>>>> if there >>>>>>>>> is carp down of any: >>>>>>>>> one (carp0 or carp1 or carp2), >>>>>>>>> two ([carp0 and carp1] or [carp0 and carp2] or [carp1 and >>>>>>> carp2]), >>>>>>>>> three interfaces (carp 0 and carp1 and carp2), server >>>>>>>>> runs the script testdown.sh and put the server into state two. >>>>>>>>> If all carp interfaces are up, the server runs the testup.sh >>>>>>> and set >>>>>>>>> the state to one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is my understanding. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is it the way the system works? >>>>>>>>> Or am I wrong? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> === >>>>>>>>> init-state one >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> net = '( "ifconfig -a -u |grep carp0 > /dev/null" every 3 && >>>>>>>> "ifconfig -a -u >>>>>>>>> |grep carp1 > /dev/null" every 3 && "ifconfig -a -u |grep >>>>>>> carp2 > >>>>>>>> /dev/null" >>>>>>>>> every 3)' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> state one { >>>>>>>>> if ( ! $net ) { >>>>>>>>> run "/usr/local/testdown.sh" >>>>>>>>> set-state two >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> state two { >>>>>>>>> if ( $net ) { >>>>>>>>> run "/usr/local/testup.sh" >>>>>>>>> set-state one >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> === >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is there any possibility to define and set ifstated.conf that >>>>>>>> reacts when: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> any one of the carp interfaces is down - followed by >>>>>>> another any >>>>>>>>> other carp interface down >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried to define states: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> duu ="!carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>>> udu ="carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up && carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>>> uud ="carp0.link.up && carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>>> ddu ="!carp0.link.up && !carp1.link.up" >>>>>>>>> dud ="!carp0.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>>> udd ="!carp1.link.up && !carp2.link.up" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and used them but somehow I cannot incorporate all state >>>>>>> changes and >>>>>>>>> include it in ifstated.conf. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Works fine here, did you not have any luck with the file I >>>>>>> posted >>>>>>>> earlier ? >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mailing list >>>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 05:20:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C539106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sengflex@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D420F8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl12 with SMTP id l12so3206118yen.13 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of sengflex@gmail.com designates 10.236.175.162 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.175.162; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of sengflex@gmail.com designates 10.236.175.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=sengflex@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=sengflex@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.175.162]) by 10.236.175.162 with SMTP id z22mr33880279yhl.119.1329801650153 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:20:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/vXOWwtMB6poE1ryi4XKN/643LVh/dn8q424ScFSDWo=; b=R9WMyGnHEovaGbWD0SRUgjnU9H36Mn5so8dpRbYZKCuuOxgtsvv5txAygk/XXL/dIw veRxXnimBt4fY1z4kM8MtqNM9crz6FQgHH8MylwTfqMIrI2k9lRaMvJaFQmevzGTpanl jTYjMG+DqkZtC+OxolU1rPdEOWvfHTTwKij8c= Received: by 10.236.175.162 with SMTP id z22mr26216521yhl.119.1329799920429; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [186.207.137.150] ([186.207.137.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20sm30655708ang.7.2012.02.20.20.51.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:51:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F4322ED.1040604@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:51:57 -0400 From: Danilo Almeida User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:06:43 +0000 Subject: re: advanced programming unix environment (pracct.c:31: error: storage size of 'acdata' isn't known) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:20:51 -0000 I think I found the reason for the reported error. In the file 'pracct.c' variable 'acdata' is declared as 'struct acct'. This structure must be in header 'acct.h', in sub-directory '/usr/include/sys'. But it is not. In that header there are two similar structures instead: 'struct acctv2' and 'struct acctv1'. Thus, 'pracct.c' is outdated. The question is which of the two structures replaces the 'struct acct' above. Forgive for my English. I am using google translator. My native language is Portuguese. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 12:10:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC668106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366B68FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1LCAiOA080847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:10:45 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1LCAiOA080847 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329826245; bh=qvULxBj6F4OtOrwW/P7Z3HhysxFyZ6X9J3YDgJw+1zM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=gyiI1EohyXRtXrB/HXDZDC+S64Hz1f0QzFVZXfs3W+gLfTnvKqGGwvKzEENFbZHUD kj7fd2mS5Kpw4PuxUO//n65bIRZtChmDnHWPtcvWJNhve0of+Hbu94enizCbixZs1X HpO280BJRvT5+6g+KLuDKCzzHwyyXq1UGqkY2LPU= Message-ID: <4F4389BD.6040205@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:10:37 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB2F72D26359EB1D61B072265" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:10:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB2F72D26359EB1D61B072265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/02/2012 20:06, =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wrote: >=20 > vlan74: flags=3D8843 metric 0 m= tu 1500 > options=3D3 > ether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 > inet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd > inet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 > inet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 > nd6 options=3D29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > vlan: 74 parent interface: re0 >=20 > ifconfig vlan74 delete 10.1.26.1 >=20 > will delete these static routes from route table: >=20 > 10.3.0.1 10.7.26.2 UGHS 8 367 vlan74 > 10.1.6.0/23 10.7.26.2 UGS 275 166969 vlan74 >=20 > Does this a bug? Hmmm... how have you managed to have a next hop address of 10.7.26.2 on your vlan74 interface, when the local network appears to be 10.1.26.0/23 ? What's the route to 10.7.26.2 -- presumably this is also accessible on vlan74 ? It certainly seems odd that your routes have disappeared, but I'm wondering if they were culled from the routing table because the system thought they weren't logically connected to the local system? Given that they have seen traffic, perhaps this was connected to a different change that the deletion of 10.1.26.1 that you highlighted? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigB2F72D26359EB1D61B072265 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9DicQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxnAwCfZrRBXzaOKlV5TqByMIC0RrII W7IAn1v6yPj8eWFVAoz+QVtZuWUgXJ6A =rXPj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB2F72D26359EB1D61B072265-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 05:41:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC244106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22B98FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1L5esTV013357; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:40:57 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:40:53 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221052603.GC6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20120221052603.GC6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202211240.53859.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:31:58 +0000 Cc: Chip Camden Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:41:01 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > Hi, > > > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > >> There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying > > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to have several disks to run a serious system. > > > > > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users on several 5MB disks. > > > > > > > > Erich > > > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax > > > your memory as to when? > > > > it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was removable. This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. RL .. something like this was the disk name. > > > > I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB removable > RL02, which we used for software distribution. We resold them to our > customers at $170 each. yes, this sound familiar. The RL02 came later. I think that tapes were much more common for software distribution those days. I still remember the responsiveness of RSX-11 even compared to FreeBSD under all circumstances. Real time is real time. Erich > > -- > .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com > ..O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com > OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 07:38:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8672106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C45C8FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1L7bxbV008000; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:38:02 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:37:56 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201202210606.q1L66vQO003582@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201202210606.q1L66vQO003582@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202211437.57176.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:32:10 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:38:05 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:06:57 Robert Bonomi wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to have several disks to run a serious system. > > > > > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users on several 5MB disks. > > > > > > > > Erich > > > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax > > > your memory as to when? > > > > it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was removable. > > This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. RL .. > > something like this was the disk name. > > AHA. probably an 'RL-05', cousin to the better known "RK-05" > > 14" media, in a 'cartridge'. I -think- it was an 'SMD' interface 14" could be true as it just fitted into a 19" rack. SMD? I have no idea. It was something others did not use I have known then. SCSI came only later, ST506? Did it exist already? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 12:38:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146561065670 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59F48FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q1LCd0eR008307 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:39:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:39:00 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201202211239.q1LCd0eR008307@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201202211437.57176.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:38:39 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:06:57 Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > > > > On 02/18/12 17:47, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > > > > when I got my hands for the first time on a BSD system, the machine has had several 5MB hard disks. > > > > > > > > > > I assume that what now is called partitioning came from the need to have several disks to run a serious system. > > > > > > > > > > And yes, it was possible to boot and run BSD with at least 20 users on several 5MB disks. > > > > > > > > > > Erich > > > > Erich, can I be so bold as to ask what brand the disks were? And tax > > > > your memory as to when? > > > > > > it was DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was removable. > > > This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. RL .. > > > something like this was the disk name. > > > > AHA. probably an 'RL-05', cousin to the better known "RK-05" I had a memory fault -- the RLs were the RL-01 and RL-02. > > > > 14" media, in a 'cartridge'. I -think- it was an 'SMD' interface > > 14" could be true as it just fitted into a 19" rack. Virtually all 'removable platter' or 'removable pack' storage of the day was 14" media. :) There were some "high-capacity" _non-removable-media_ drives that used much larger media. A friend had a coffee table made from a 45" disk platter. > SMD? I have no idea. It was something others did not use I have known then. SMD ("torage odule evice") was a relatively standard interface for 'minicomputer' type disks. It dates from 1973, and is derived from DEC's "RP-0X" interface, used on their bigger systems. Some machines used a 'manfacturer proprietary' interface, A little digging seems to indicate that the smaller DEC drives =were= mamufacturer proprietary' > SCSI came only later, ST506? Did it exist already? The PDP-11 was there first. Seagate Technologies developed the ST506 drive (5mb, 5-1/4" 'full height' form- factor) in 1980. The interface definition was extended to support the ST412 (10mb, same form-factor)) drive option used in the original IBM PC/XT. All the 'smarts' for data handling lived on the controller card, so, by changing the controller card, you could change the dats storage caapacity of the drive. drives were generally rated their capacity using a MFM controller -- the data encoding used by the first seagate controllers. Later a form of elementary data compression -- 'run-length-limited' coding -- allowed one to incrreas the data stored on any given drive by about 50% relative to the MFM encoding. There was a third encoding method -- proprietary to a company named Priam -- that roughly doubled the MFM storage capacity on a given drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 12:46:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18841065670 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egoitz@ramattack.net) Received: from proxypop04.sare.net (proxypop04.sare.net [194.30.0.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853038FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.saremail.com (unknown [194.30.0.100]) by proxypop04.sare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2A149DC53F for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:46:21 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:46:21 +0100 From: egoitz@ramattack.net To: Message-ID: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> X-Sender: egoitz@ramattack.net User-Agent: Saremail/0.6-svn Subject: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:46:23 -0000 Good morning, Previously I was doing a : 'tar -C /expert/netboot/freebsd8 -pxvf 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso' for extracting iso files. Now due to a different way of creating iso files in this new release... have read this is not recommended and in fact it does not work pretty good. The matter because I wanted to make this extraction is for an unattended installation system of FreeBSD (Jumpstart basically) so I need a consistent way of extracting it, preserving the most properties of the iso files content. So, could anyone advice me a proper way of doing what I was doing before, with the new iso files?. Best regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 13:34:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50391065672 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E0B8FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1LDY4rd034928 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:34:04 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1LDY4rd034928 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329831244; bh=YhvM1uFsrXAV0AP7pBGV5ukzRMawoD05Cw+AhRT2m6o=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=FaOzsY6Gbm9UzROvP6TPVlQCSZRBPqV4jq/Snv45w3jMXxcb/lFjOw+vTuzjbFLNU t9GN8tzvrtkxsnbHSnAvTavb8VFfjEeMaGUMjSy5hRL4JxuQhRTvJfv3rvJD8gSG0Y 0j+XTYnR+g1iJ/vZEIW6W76YsCdu+1TmXYAI1tRw= Message-ID: <4F439D44.7030304@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:33:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> In-Reply-To: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDF259E9A2F051E3FE1ABFEF9" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:34:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDF259E9A2F051E3FE1ABFEF9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/02/2012 12:46, egoitz@ramattack.net wrote: > Previously I was doing a : 'tar -C /expert/netboot/freebsd8 -pxvf > 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso' for extracting iso files. Now due to a > different way of creating iso files in this new release... have read > this is not recommended and in fact it does not work pretty good. The > matter because I wanted to make this extraction is for an unattended > installation system of FreeBSD (Jumpstart basically) so I need a > consistent way of extracting it, preserving the most properties of the > iso files content. So, could anyone advice me a proper way of doing wha= t > I was doing before, with the new iso files?. Using tar to extract the contents of a .iso should work. You might end up with oddities to do with file ownership and permissions, but you should be able to fix that by suitable application of mtree(1). Alternatively you can grab the actual installation images from the install media -- that's any of the .txz files under /usr/freebsd-dist for 9.0. These are actually rather easier to use than the equivalents under 8.x or earlier: you get about 5 .txz files, not all of which are necessary to boot the new system. For a minimal install on a 64bit platform you'ld need base.txz, lib32.txz and kernel.txz. Just untar those in the root directory of the system you're building (preserving permissions and ownership) and you should be good to go. [Assuming you've already done all the partitioning and creating filesystems and installing boot-blocks stuff required, of course.] Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDF259E9A2F051E3FE1ABFEF9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9DnUsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxVfgCaA3DlvDiw1jtRvCA3xR/BI/v0 OiMAnitgCtFcCDNBGdWKAv0uIobtca4O =p/Yt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDF259E9A2F051E3FE1ABFEF9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 13:47:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414171065670 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CFF8FC1B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjg1 with SMTP id jg1so7245027bkc.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.151.196 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.151.196; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.204.151.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ml@my.gd Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.151.196]) by 10.204.151.196 with SMTP id d4mr13518882bkw.29.1329832028766 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.151.196 with SMTP id d4mr10921603bkw.29.1329832028533; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x22sm45570775bkw.11.2012.02.21.05.47.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:47:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F43A059.90000@my.gd> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:47:05 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmaVtpM1BmklcY+EmvJA8RiN9uYvQ+HP5N+98O5qHkmIqFtPpHZ3E6JX0RWfZJEd83pJV7G Cc: Subject: JAIL - building perl 5.1? fails on 8.2-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:47:10 -0000 Hello list, I'm trying to build perl5.12 in a jail running on 8.2-STABLE, to ultimately build php5. I'm getting the following error: Running Mkbootstrap for threads::shared () chmod 644 shared.bs rm -f ../../lib/auto/threads/shared/shared.so cc -shared -L/usr/local/lib -fstack-protector shared.o -o ../../lib/auto/threads/shared/shared.so chmod 755 ../../lib/auto/threads/shared/shared.so cp shared.bs ../../lib/auto/threads/shared/shared.bs chmod 644 ../../lib/auto/threads/shared/shared.bs LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/s/portbuild/usr/ports/lang/perl5.12/work/perl-5.12.4 ./perl -f -Ilib pod/buildtoc --build-toc -q LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/s/portbuild/usr/ports/lang/perl5.12/work/perl-5.12.4 ./miniperl -Ilib minimod.pl > lib/ExtUtils/Miniperl.pm cd x2p; LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/s/portbuild/usr/ports/lang/perl5.12/work/perl-5.12.4 make s2p "makefile", line 163: Need an operator "makefile", line 166: Need an operator No closing parenthesis in archive specification There are a LOT MORE of these: "makefile", line XXX: Need an operator See the pastebin below for the full list: http://pastebin.com/qAk4qXte I've also tried perl5.10 and am getting the same errors: written lib/Config.pod updated lib/Config.pm updated lib/Config_heavy.pl LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/s/portbuild/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10/work/perl-5.10.1 ./miniperl -Ilib lib/lib_pm.PL Extracting lib.pm (with variable substitutions) AutoSplitting perl library LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/s/portbuild/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10/work/perl-5.10.1 ./miniperl -Ilib -MAutoSplit -MFile::Find -e 'find ({no_chdir=>1, wanted => sub {autosplit_lib_modules($_) if /\.pm$/}}, "lib")' make lib/re.pm "makefile", line 1050: Need an operator "makefile", line 1053: Need an operator The jail's world was built and installed yesterday, although I can't really tell when I last csup'd, possibly last week. The config for perl5.12 is: PERL_64BITINT PTHREAD USE_PERL These are the mounts, seen from the host: data/jail on /data/jail (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) /data/jail/j/mroot on /data/jail/j/nanaya (nullfs, local, read-only) /data/jail/js/nanaya on /data/jail/j/nanaya/s (nullfs, local) The mount seen from the jail: /data/jail/j/mroot on / (nullfs, local, read-only) Anyone ever run into this kind of problem ? I have to say I followed the procedure from the handbook regarding having 1 "template" readonly jail with the world, and separate jails with readwrite portions (etc, ports build...). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 14:25:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA96E1065676 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egoitz@ramattack.net) Received: from proxypop04.sare.net (proxypop04.sare.net [194.30.0.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF138FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.saremail.com (unknown [194.30.0.100]) by proxypop04.sare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA3469DC57F for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:25:15 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:25:15 +0100 From: egoitz@ramattack.net To: In-Reply-To: <4F439D44.7030304@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> <4F439D44.7030304@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: X-Sender: egoitz@ramattack.net User-Agent: Saremail/0.6-svn Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:25:17 -0000 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:33:56 +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/02/2012 12:46, egoitz@ramattack.net wrote: >> Previously I was doing a : 'tar -C /expert/netboot/freebsd8 -pxvf >> 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso' for extracting iso files. Now due to a >> different way of creating iso files in this new release... have read >> this is not recommended and in fact it does not work pretty good. >> The >> matter because I wanted to make this extraction is for an unattended >> installation system of FreeBSD (Jumpstart basically) so I need a >> consistent way of extracting it, preserving the most properties of >> the >> iso files content. So, could anyone advice me a proper way of doing >> what >> I was doing before, with the new iso files?. > > Using tar to extract the contents of a .iso should work. You might > end > up with oddities to do with file ownership and permissions, but you > should be able to fix that by suitable application of mtree(1). > > Alternatively you can grab the actual installation images from the > install media -- that's any of the .txz files under /usr/freebsd-dist > for 9.0. These are actually rather easier to use than the > equivalents > under 8.x or earlier: you get about 5 .txz files, not all of which > are > necessary to boot the new system. For a minimal install on a 64bit > platform you'ld need base.txz, lib32.txz and kernel.txz. Just untar > those in the root directory of the system you're building (preserving > permissions and ownership) and you should be good to go. [Assuming > you've already done all the partitioning and creating filesystems and > installing boot-blocks stuff required, of course.] > > Cheers, > > Matthew Hi all!!, And could be possible... doing something like : mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /tmp/bootable.iso -u 0 # mount -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt And later an rsync -av (rsync compiled preserving file flags) /mnt /expert/netboot/freebsd90... ?? and the most important thing... could this content in /expert/netboot/freebsd90 be consistent for using it for an unattended installation system? Thanks a lot!! Best regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 15:18:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF44D1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9568FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-75-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.75.202]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B200D24751; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:18:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1LFIcwx001964; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:18:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:18:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Doug Hardie Message-Id: <20120221161838.07c09ef5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2585F37E-7B1F-4E76-8925-838B40C0F4DE@lafn.org> References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221052603.GC6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201202211240.53859.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221062011.GE6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <2585F37E-7B1F-4E76-8925-838B40C0F4DE@lafn.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:18:41 -0000 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:53:10 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > The RK05 had one removable platter in a plastic housing. Please compare the images of the drive and the media. Does it look similar? Removable platters types EC 5269 in plastic cartridge: http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/komponenten/datentraeger.htm#wechselplatte Drive ISOT 1370 with one fixed platter and one removable platter: http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/zubehoer/wechselplatten.htm#isot1370 Drive CM 5400 with removable platter only: http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/zubehoer/wechselplatten.htm#cm5400 (Historical note: K1600 series minicomputers are basically PDPs.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 15:44:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDF0106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11908FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-75-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.75.202]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9991E867; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:44:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1LFiAYP002051; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:44:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:44:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:44:13 -0000 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:05 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances > of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more > laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were > wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now > thanks to Adrianns work. Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless devices. > Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons: > 1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work > in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know > about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and > error like crazy only once you start to use it. The main idea of using such a system is to most precisely determine the _present_ hardware to allow further investigations (e. g. web searches and mailing list questions). The OS from disc or stick can help to identify the hardware. If you're running a live file system from a USB stick, you can do things like: # dmesg # pciconf -lv # usbconfig # sysctl -a If you start the system by "boot -v" (verbose logging), dmesg will contain some more lines than usual. If you have a USB stick, you can easily save the output of those commands to persistent files. If you have X in the mix, you can also check the support for the display and obtain other information that might be important later on (especially GPU info): # glxinfo # xvinfo Log files worth saving are in /var/log, as well as Xorg.0.log for X-related things. If you prepare some programs, you can also do some testing, e. g. multimedia, gaming, 3D support, networking and so on. > 2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung > laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play > with that either. Depends. If you're interested in buying one of the more expensive ones, they will offer you a "test ride" which includes that you have a look at the CMOS setup (which is something very typical for you as an IT professional). You can say: "The BIOS is defective, it doesn't allow me to boot a standard OS. Let's see... for 100$ less, I would still do you a favour and buy it." :-) > If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf > -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to > use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better. USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow you to store files (as the results of your investigation). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 15:57:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3A2106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FC18FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q1LFvW5i045877; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:57:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id q1LFvVuV045876; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:57:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:57:31 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20120221155731.GE45597@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <201202211437.57176.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <201202211239.q1LCd0eR008307@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201202211239.q1LCd0eR008307@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:57:32 -0000 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 06:39:00AM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > > > > > AHA. probably an 'RL-05', cousin to the better known "RK-05" > > I had a memory fault -- the RLs were the RL-01 and RL-02. > > > > > > 14" media, in a 'cartridge'. I -think- it was an 'SMD' interface > > > > 14" could be true as it just fitted into a 19" rack. > > Virtually all 'removable platter' or 'removable pack' storage of the day > was 14" media. :) > > There were some "high-capacity" _non-removable-media_ drives that used > much larger media. A friend had a coffee table made from a 45" disk > platter. Control Data Corp made the drives with the large platters - 45" sounds about right. It was the 808 Disk drive. It was built on a huge heavy cast aluminum frame (to counteract vibration)and the heads were 'loaded' and positioned hydraulicly. There was a large and noisy pump unit right next to it. It was quite fast at read/write. Here one was set up to only use a couple of cylinders to reduce seek time and then used as a swap disk. CDC was actually a major disk manufacturer in their day. I also used that DEC setup with the removable disk cartridges on a PDP-11 an later on a 8650. The 8650 had lots of other disk, but a cartridge was still used for the system controller that did things like controlling the boot, etc. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 17:38:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF06106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067438FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so6365391wer.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of amvandemore@gmail.com designates 10.180.92.226 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.92.226; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of amvandemore@gmail.com designates 10.180.92.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=amvandemore@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=amvandemore@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.92.226]) by 10.180.92.226 with SMTP id cp2mr27612365wib.10.1329845934977 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:38:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BxMKw+30eVjpIf0H2UsrZqyYhtvcvuaGUWiZOWzylS0=; b=odZObXescv3k+sbeNBd7Ax9gIBXu5XtN27S1o9/5JiZeXKIDE1KWqkKzYR5fP76qfQ Lvl4oTkF7CJ7Em6hjTt4VKF+3kM4BfhWWe7Iit3/GG0UOf7af+mOuWt86c6h9MAF5GDm ZFiPcx4FqcrI5r1bi3kG7vPhHQoVY7IF1+9nI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.92.226 with SMTP id cp2mr22983535wib.10.1329845934933; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.93.138 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:38:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:38:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:38:56 -0000 2012/2/20 =EB=CF=CE=D8=CB=CF=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5=CE=C9=CA > > vlan74: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > options=3D3 > ether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 > inet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd > inet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 > inet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 > nd6 options=3D29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > vlan: 74 parent interface: re0 > > ifconfig vlan74 delete 10.1.26.1 > > will delete these static routes from route table: > > 10.3.0.1 10.7.26.2 UGHS 8 367 vlan74 > 10.1.6.0/23 10.7.26.2 UGS 275 166969 vlan74 > > Does this a bug? > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D128954&cat=3Dbin --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 17:53:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76830106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348C68FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rztth-00038I-Nt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:53:05 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:53:05 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:53:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:53:07 -0000 ramattack.net> writes: > > Good morning, > > Previously I was doing a : 'tar -C /expert/netboot/freebsd8 -pxvf > 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso' for extracting iso files. > ... There is a simple way to access contents of an iso file: # mount -o loop some.iso /mnt jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 18:02:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BF5106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF4A8FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa02 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q1LHQwuM006417; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:02:38 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 134f7tra1p-2 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:02:38 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:02:36 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: "'jb'" , References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:02:42 -0800 Message-ID: <006b01ccf0c3$0263b6c0$072b2440$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHsHIm8O7oKNxzWWqIj3M6QjIbxxAHsSoXTlfnok+A= Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-21_06:2012-02-21, 2012-02-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Subject: RE: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:02:40 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of jb > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:53 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 > > ramattack.net> writes: > > > > > Good morning, > > > > Previously I was doing a : 'tar -C /expert/netboot/freebsd8 -pxvf > > 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso' for extracting iso files. > > ... > > There is a simple way to access contents of an iso file: > # mount -o loop some.iso /mnt > That works on FreeBSD? I commonly use that (daily even) on Linux, but was not aware that would work on FreeBSD. Here's the method I use on [modern] FreeBSD: mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 99 -f $ISOFILE mount -t cd9660 /dev/md99 /mnt And here's the method I would use on LEGACY FreeBSD: cd /dev && sh MAKEDEV vn99 vnconfig -c vn99 $ISOFILE mount -t cd9660 /dev/vn99c /mnt Or, you can just download this script which works on both Linux and FreeBSD: http://druidbsd.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/src/tools/mou nt_iso.sh?view=log Usage: ./mount_iso.sh $ISOFILE /mnt Don't forget that when you're done, you have to deconfigure the device... On [modern] FreeBSD: umount /mnt mdconfig -d -u 99 And here's the method for LEGACY FreeBSD: umount /mnt vnconfig -u vn99c Or, you can just download this script which works on both Linux and FreeBSD: http://druidbsd.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/src/tools/umo unt_iso.sh?view=log Usage: ./umount_iso.sh /mnt -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 18:14:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADE8106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4666B8FC18 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q1LIEJjl096813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q1LIEJkD096812; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19405; Tue, 21 Feb 12 10:06:42 PST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:06:43 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <4f443fa3.wAf6vgzbnqrf5Hve%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202210910.20658.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221052603.GC6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201202211240.53859.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <20120221062011.GE6294@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <2585F37E-7B1F-4E76-8925-838B40C0F4DE@lafn.org> <20120221161838.07c09ef5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120221161838.07c09ef5.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:14:24 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:53:10 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > > The RK05 had one removable platter in a plastic housing. > > Please compare the images of the drive and the media. > Does it look similar? > > Removable platters types EC 5269 in plastic cartridge: > > http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/komponenten/datentraeger.htm#wechselplatte That looks like pictures I've seen of an RL cartridge. (I never dealt with actual RL hardware.) The RK-05 was front-loaded, not top-loaded. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 18:14:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EEA1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egoitz@ramattack.net) Received: from proxypop04.sare.net (proxypop04.sare.net [194.30.0.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DF08FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.saremail.com (unknown [194.30.0.100]) by proxypop04.sare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14D629DC448 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:14:23 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:14:22 +0100 From: egoitz@ramattack.net To: In-Reply-To: <006b01ccf0c3$0263b6c0$072b2440$@fisglobal.com> References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> <006b01ccf0c3$0263b6c0$072b2440$@fisglobal.com> Message-ID: <4d1b4484fdf4aef1a8a267f05f71f450@ramattack.net> X-Sender: egoitz@ramattack.net User-Agent: Saremail/0.6-svn Subject: RE: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:14:25 -0000 > umount /mnt > vnconfig -u vn99c > > Or, you can just download this script which works on both Linux and > FreeBSD: > > > http://druidbsd.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/src/tools/umo > unt_iso.sh?view=log > > Usage: > ./umount_iso.sh /mnt Hello all, And thanks a lot really for you're answers. Yes... I know the way you can mount an iso image (I have done a couple of times yesterday in fact)... but I'm really worried about how making a consistent copy of it like I did with tar... as I said this is for an unattended installation system... so I cannot be depending on having the cd mounted on the operating system... with tar the -p option was important for preserving permissions, flags, and so... perhaps now... should mount like you said before for example.... and later having an rsync compiled with file flag preserving support do an rsync -av /cd-mount-point /disk-place-to-copy-cd-content ?? this last is the real question... I have played previously several times with memory disks mappings, mdconfig and those staff.... but how to make a consistent copy of the cd for the unattended installation system... Thanks again, Best regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 18:17:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C8F106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1138FC20 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RzuHX-00087v-49 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:17:43 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:17:43 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:17:43 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> <006b01ccf0c3$0263b6c0$072b2440$@fisglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:17:44 -0000 Devin Teske fisglobal.com> writes: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions freebsd.org] On Behalf Of jb > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:53 AM > > To: freebsd-questions freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 > > > > ramattack.net> writes: > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > Previously I was doing a : 'tar -C /expert/netboot/freebsd8 -pxvf > > > 8.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso' for extracting iso files. > > > ... > > > > There is a simple way to access contents of an iso file: > > # mount -o loop some.iso /mnt > > > > That works on FreeBSD? I commonly use that (daily even) on Linux, but was not > aware that would work on FreeBSD. > ... Well, old habits never die :-) But, actually, why not on FreeBSD ? Btw, mdconfig(8) ... To create an md(4) device out of an ISO 9660 CD image file (-a and -t vnode are implied), using the first available md(4) device, and then mount the new memory disk: mount -t cd9660 /dev/`mdconfig -f cdimage.iso` /mnt ... jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 18:28:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C0B106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEE68FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa03 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q1LIRD6p006553; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:28:38 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 134fmhg8u0-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:28:38 -0600 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.15) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:28:37 -0600 From: Devin Teske To: , References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> <006b01ccf0c3$0263b6c0$072b2440$@fisglobal.com> <4d1b4484fdf4aef1a8a267f05f71f450@ramattack.net> In-Reply-To: <4d1b4484fdf4aef1a8a267f05f71f450@ramattack.net> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:28:43 -0800 Message-ID: <007001ccf0c6$a4a920c0$edfb6240$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHsHIm8O7oKNxzWWqIj3M6QjIbxxAHsSoXTAe7SuycCLsPg6pXZA4YQ Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.15] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-21_07:2012-02-21, 2012-02-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Cc: Subject: RE: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:28:40 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of egoitz@ramattack.net > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:14 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: New iso format on 9.0 >=20 > > umount /mnt > > vnconfig -u vn99c > > > > Or, you can just download this script which works on both Linux and > > FreeBSD: > > > > > > > http://druidbsd.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/src/to= ols/ > umo > > unt_iso.sh?view=3Dlog > > > > Usage: > > ./umount_iso.sh /mnt >=20 >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > And thanks a lot really for you're answers. Yes... I know the way you > can mount an iso image (I have done a couple of times yesterday in > fact)... but I'm really worried about how making a consistent copy of it > like I did with tar... as I said this is for an unattended installation > system... so I cannot be depending on having the cd mounted on the > operating system... with tar the -p option was important for preserving > permissions, flags, and so... perhaps now... should mount like you said > before for example.... and later having an rsync compiled with file flag > preserving support do an rsync -av /cd-mount-point > /disk-place-to-copy-cd-content ?? >=20 > this last is the real question... I have played previously several > times with memory disks mappings, mdconfig and those staff.... but how > to make a consistent copy of the cd for the unattended installation > system... Why can't you mount the disc on /mnt and then use tar after mounting the di= sk to copy the files from /mnt to /destdir ... tar cpf - -C /mnt . | tar xvpf - -C /destdir That will preserve hard links, symlinks, permissions, and times (and doesn'= t require rsync). There are other methods involving cpio, but I find tar to be nice. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 19:08:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192D4106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A9B8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8675F4190 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 69462418F; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:08:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p5B37A706.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.167.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AFA3F4186; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:08:28 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120221200828.2f431df7@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20120221002319.b7e645dd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120220234652.024cb492@dijkstra.cruwe.de> <20120221002319.b7e645dd.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:08:37 -0000 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:23:19 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:46:52 +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > > Is there any documentation available on how to retrieve old ports > > from the cvs-attic? I just don't know how, so that I could test my > > assumption that CUPS 1.4.x should be working for my setup. > > There's a port to do so: portdowngrade. You can use > it to obtain older versions of a port. > > (I've been using it successfully to downgrade xzgv > to a working version.) > Thanks a lot. In my case, it meant finding out that you have to rebuild INDEX, downgrading the cups-base and cups-client port to 1.4.8 and then rebuidling the chain. Boiled down to 5m of actual work and some more waiting for the compile ... I have now cups 1.4.8 and am functional with a Kyocera 1030D connected via usb. So, thank you again, hava a nice week, cheers -- Christopher TZ GMT +1h From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 19:31:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F555106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FB08FC16 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa04 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q1LJQ5dl009243 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:31:25 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 134guwr5ma-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:31:25 -0600 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.62) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:31:24 -0600 Message-ID: <4F43F10B.4020803@fisglobal.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:31:23 -0800 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net> <006b01ccf0c3$0263b6c0$072b2440$@fisglobal.com> <4d1b4484fdf4aef1a8a267f05f71f450@ramattack.net> <007001ccf0c6$a4a920c0$edfb6240$@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <007001ccf0c6$a4a920c0$edfb6240$@fisglobal.com> X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.62] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-21_07:2012-02-21, 2012-02-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:31:26 -0000 On 02/21/2012 10:28, Devin Teske wrote: > Why can't you mount the disc on /mnt and then use tar after mounting the disk to copy the files from /mnt to /destdir ... > > tar cpf - -C /mnt . | tar xvpf - -C /destdir > > That will preserve hard links, symlinks, permissions, and times (and doesn't require rsync). > > There are other methods involving cpio, but I find tar to be nice. Just FYI, a trick using cpio which Julian once taught me: find . -depth | cpio -pdmluv /destination/dir/here -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 19:48:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4F4106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B638FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbgn7 with SMTP id gn7so4288221wgb.1 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gull@gull.us designates 10.180.95.1 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.95.1; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gull@gull.us designates 10.180.95.1 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gull@gull.us Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.95.1]) by 10.180.95.1 with SMTP id dg1mr28462361wib.21.1329853701523 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:48:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.95.1 with SMTP id dg1mr23673376wib.21.1329853701450; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.103.137 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:48:21 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.211] In-Reply-To: <201202191226.47196.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202190803.39548.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <87wr7j1lds.fsf@oak.localnet> <201202191226.47196.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:48:21 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlPk2vCpCSOklr2/FEnXxTfNaKl3ULyG0AnpUhfSvu9rnwovVZ697/ZZwI1XVqw4QC5ESOC Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:48:23 -0000 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > it will not even boot if there is only a single slice with root and the r= est on it if the background fsck cannot be run. > > I have to go to real remote locations once in a while where an USP is not= of real help anymore as the USP is not able to charge its battery before t= he next power failure comes. It happened there some times that the /usr sli= ce needs a foreground check. Of course, all can be fixed. > > I cannot imagine that this would still work if / is on the same slice as = the rest of the data. Why not? / gets mounted read-only, foreground fsck is run on /, system boo= ts... Maybe I'm just not understanding the problem here. I suppose in theory your root filesystem could be so corrupt that it won't even mount read-only, but I've never actually seen that happen except in the case of an outright disk failure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 20:24:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE071065672 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward10.mail.yandex.net (forward10.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716F88FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (smtp6.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.56]) by forward10.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C971C1022A94; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:24:02 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329855842; bh=hr30E5AVHy40EQa0R81ewRfiO2Cx6vjbRITvMwx+3aY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ne3DOCTus3a9VRV1GN3VA1EJ38ngKIHRj2Seqr7RInZqX0tcD0/oxYcirNOr/6JSm a+DFnTqxNlmSBcdWaqCf1qbbe8cnpf9Ms+SibvJfI1o4huqZKCNsoX8tVTD6/xss8j hxcoHaWcwbTAXz8ymKK/y7FGrapTmSrJzXVfk4x8= Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A2B6416403CF; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:24:02 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329855842; bh=hr30E5AVHy40EQa0R81ewRfiO2Cx6vjbRITvMwx+3aY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ne3DOCTus3a9VRV1GN3VA1EJ38ngKIHRj2Seqr7RInZqX0tcD0/oxYcirNOr/6JSm a+DFnTqxNlmSBcdWaqCf1qbbe8cnpf9Ms+SibvJfI1o4huqZKCNsoX8tVTD6/xss8j hxcoHaWcwbTAXz8ymKK/y7FGrapTmSrJzXVfk4x8= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id O2I4oHPH-O2IqlwoX; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:24:02 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:24:00 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1449343157.20120221222400@yandex.ru> To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4F4389BD.6040205@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> <4F4389BD.6040205@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:24:05 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Matthew. Âû ïèñàëè 21 ôåâðàëÿ 2012 ã., 14:10:37: MS> On 20/02/2012 20:06, Êîíüêîâ Åâãåíèé wrote: >> >> vlan74: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 >> options=3 >> ether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 >> inet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd >> inet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 >> inet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 >> nd6 options=29 >> media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) >> status: active >> vlan: 74 parent interface: re0 >> >> ifconfig vlan74 delete 10.1.26.1 >> >> will delete these static routes from route table: >> >> 10.3.0.1 10.7.26.2 UGHS 8 367 vlan74 >> 10.1.6.0/23 10.7.26.2 UGS 275 166969 vlan74 10.3.0.1 10.1.26.2 UGHS 8 367 vlan74 10.1.6.0/23 10.1.26.2 UGS 275 166969 vlan74 I had mistake. >> >> Does this a bug? MS> Hmmm... how have you managed to have a next hop address of 10.7.26.2 on MS> your vlan74 interface, when the local network appears to be 10.1.26.0/23 MS> ? What's the route to 10.7.26.2 -- presumably this is also accessible MS> on vlan74 ? MS> It certainly seems odd that your routes have disappeared, but I'm MS> wondering if they were culled from the routing table because the system MS> thought they weren't logically connected to the local system? Given MS> that they have seen traffic, perhaps this was connected to a different MS> change that the deletion of 10.1.26.1 that you highlighted? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 20:46:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C016E106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4358D8FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjg1 with SMTP id jg1so7785544bkc.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com designates 10.112.85.137 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.85.137; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com designates 10.112.85.137 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.85.137]) by 10.112.85.137 with SMTP id h9mr10393927lbz.51.1329857172068 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:46:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QD/Jm1+hGKE8+yUdsihA60IluKUQpcRP4X4thDmrwJM=; b=N3vOcn3YyRNpVc60C9j//UW7K0USXj/JCosHVwLOoe6ZtujTKPvvjq3UzECHzrefA/ 8rm/wmegvkwag+Nwr141lPi0WiiggMfbBa1KaFeHq7u9bhleQyVkDMpqZQU0R6sANL8U Q3NNwvFKRlZTLFYiYcT3KIvGTRMH9cvEyKUMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.85.137 with SMTP id h9mr8626843lbz.51.1329855521454; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.13.72 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:18:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:18:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Current way of downloading sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:46:13 -0000 Hi all, Before 9.0 I used to use sysinstall to download sources for several distributions including kernel and libraries. However, this doesn't seem to work anymore. Whatever source distribution I try to download I get the error that it doesn't exist in the server. The handbook[1] still says sysinstall can be used to do the job. Is it right? If so, what could be my mistake. Thanks. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 20:56:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F07106567D; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net (forward16.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF85A8FC1E; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (smtp19.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.19]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 19B7CD22E53; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:56:00 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329857760; bh=/WtycYFbajrDWMxhQHqoyCSz8jQM3dQ6+ODHwG8BlAE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HvPM5Vkfi52XaeIp1nbghI2/bVxVYnQGzk77PYRaquNXz1Ce9Srs2oBAVyXf0k827 Kz9meXO59n5RB4zJgLeAeTNxccnx3JJk38U2ph6Ctu5Jxefwh7TScuAHgAWjpLixGw pGxFK9muaatmfoZilbzCKri2umT+IIsXI11XJg9Y= Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DA156BE0193; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:55:59 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329857759; bh=/WtycYFbajrDWMxhQHqoyCSz8jQM3dQ6+ODHwG8BlAE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ep6Mp+SUVO20wtmqcEQtVp9VM+sW50IiWOm+CaUqBvOBtjRdL6G1a/QcrOhYXUAt4 jvEAuBReuJG57//XY+QKlr0xyJYqXF0AcWeCXs3LIIsPrLzg4oXXNuvlnUKlaTCBlM vMgRRHmK/j0wUmpwLmRN8wpn+9/MPXq6awTPQifg= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id txhmDvDJ-txhWZ7qq; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:55:59 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:55:58 +0200 From: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?koi8-r?B?/vAg68/O2MvP1ywgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <323151470.20120221225558@yandex.ru> To: Ivan Ivanyuk In-Reply-To: References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:56:02 -0000 úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊÔÅ, Ivan. ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 21 ÆÅ×ÒÁÌÑ 2012 Ç., 0:45:33: II> 2012/2/20 ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ : >> >> vlan74: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 >> š š š šoptions=3 >> š š š šether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 >> š š š šinet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd >> š š š šinet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 >> š š š šinet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 >> š š š šnd6 options=29 >> š š š šmedia: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) >> š š š šstatus: active >> š š š švlan: 74 parent interface: re0 >> >> ifconfig vlan74 delete 10.1.26.1 >> >> will delete these static routes from route table: >> >> 10.3.0.1 š š š š š 10.1.26.2 š š š š šUGHS š š š š8 š š š367 vlan74 >> 10.1.6.0/23 š š š š10.1.26.2 š š š š šUGS š š š 275 š 166969 vlan74 >> >> Does this a bug? >> II> See here: II> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2012-February/031404.html II> It should be fixed, I asked Andrew and he said it was fixed as well. II> If latest code still has this problem, than yes it's a bug. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128954&cat=bin it is repeatable on # uname -a FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #1 r231881: Fri Feb 17 17:20:09 UTC 2012 @:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 # ifconfig vlan7 vlan7: flags=8002 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 vlan: 0 parent interface: # ifconfig vlan7 vlan 7 vlandev re0 # ifconfig vlan7 vlan7: flags=8842 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3 ether 14:da:e9:b8:5a:76 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active vlan: 7 parent interface: re0 # ifconfig vlan7 add 10.3.0.1/24 # ifconfig vlan7 add 10.3.0.2/24 # route add 10.4.0.0/24 10.3.0.3 add net 10.4.0.0: gateway 10.3.0.3 # netstat -nr Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 10.11.6.1 UGS 0 0 re0 10.0.0.0/8 10.11.6.1 UGS 1 241 re0 10.3.0.0/24 link#7 U 0 0 vlan7 10.3.0.1 link#7 UHS 0 0 lo0 10.3.0.2 link#7 UHS 0 0 lo0 10.4.0.0/24 10.3.0.3 UGS 0 0 vlan7 10.5.0.18 link#5 UH 0 0 lo0 10.11.6.0/28 link#2 U 0 6161 re0 10.11.6.7 link#2 UHS 0 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 link#5 UH 0 53 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 ::1 ::1 UH lo0 ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 link#5 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#5 UHS lo0 ff01::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 -------------------------------- # ifconfig vlan7 delete 10.3.0.1 # netstat -nr Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 10.11.6.1 UGS 0 0 re0 10.0.0.0/8 10.11.6.1 UGS 0 334 re0 10.3.0.0/24 link#7 U 0 0 vlan7 10.3.0.2 link#7 UHS 0 0 lo0 10.5.0.18 link#5 UH 0 0 lo0 10.11.6.0/28 link#2 U 0 6161 re0 10.11.6.7 link#2 UHS 0 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 link#5 UH 0 53 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 ::1 ::1 UH lo0 ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 link#5 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#5 UHS lo0 ff01::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 # ifconfig vlan7 vlan7: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3 ether 14:da:e9:b8:5a:76 inet 10.3.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.3.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active vlan: 7 parent interface: re0 NOTICE: that '10.4.0.0/24' is still reachable through 10.3.0.3 via vlan7 but route 10.4.0.0/24 10.3.0.3 UGS 0 0 vlan7 was deleted while deleting IP from vlan -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ëÏÎØËÏ× mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 20:57:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3D0106564A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net (forward16.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B918FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C8502D22F87 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:57:55 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329857875; bh=8UdRyzPnK+dQSLIfiLsVmEpvmBWxQ0za5MhGFEfdHEo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VJan47BMdN7VEptta7LBgIWX7r+LKJCS5W2GnkehYEGaFxy+rDnw3uLNBuAn9Smve uuB8MSGVNReYghlIS4/8DcXmawbcVtZ94iRVvraQQxypSK2++/6EINI1PEDKzd41EP +cMBopR8ZmtprOX4HbJSELbTDdDDe8GMeJZdB+NQ= Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AE7881900214 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:57:55 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1329857875; bh=8UdRyzPnK+dQSLIfiLsVmEpvmBWxQ0za5MhGFEfdHEo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VJan47BMdN7VEptta7LBgIWX7r+LKJCS5W2GnkehYEGaFxy+rDnw3uLNBuAn9Smve uuB8MSGVNReYghlIS4/8DcXmawbcVtZ94iRVvraQQxypSK2++/6EINI1PEDKzd41EP +cMBopR8ZmtprOX4HbJSELbTDdDDe8GMeJZdB+NQ= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id vtSCBK9u-vtSCFUYf; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:57:55 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:57:54 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! 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(v4.0.24) Professional Organization: ?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU?X-Priority: 3 (No= rmal) Message-ID: <47346273.20120219153713@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charsetwindows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: freebsd sends arp queries for IP's in not it subnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 21:33:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DBA1065674 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9884E8FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-75-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.75.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC203D53F; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:33:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1LLXNiE002793; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:33:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:33:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fernando =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Apestegu=EDa?= Message-Id: <20120221223323.a3ccc492.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Current way of downloading sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:33:25 -0000 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:18:41 +0100, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Before 9.0 I used to use sysinstall to download sources for several > distributions including kernel and libraries. However, this doesn't seem = to > work anymore. Whatever source distribution I try to download I get the > error that it doesn't exist in the server. >=20 > The handbook[1] still says sysinstall can be used to do the job. Is it > right? If so, what could be my mistake. The easiest way to get the RELEASE sources is to download them using FTP: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.0-RELEASE/src.txz (and for amd64 architecture respectively) Leaving the discussion "old vs. new installer" aside, this method should always work. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 22:10:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0DE1065673 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2ABD8FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so12100652lag.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com designates 10.152.110.102 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.110.102; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com designates 10.152.110.102 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.110.102]) by 10.152.110.102 with SMTP id hz6mr22607058lab.21.1329862244592 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1y80qm85qHJWKHpn/lk2XMXk5v48LhQkP/hZgfI/PVA=; b=SKPxLwjZT9TLhfHs7JIo89KDR/86qne2YxJd1mLNRXDQBOrdZ5baJwGxQYEBc5wy0W zn5Kw1+THQKSD4UlBPM7AVH9nih32nedo9kdQCXS8uh5hT09Mh3iSBrBw9DjvAwYGKqs Z4iDRjrHE34lxntaMNRa+63qBnh0zRA5yPB3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.110.102 with SMTP id hz6mr18927911lab.21.1329862244551; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.13.72 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120221223323.a3ccc492.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120221223323.a3ccc492.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:10:44 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Current way of downloading sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:10:46 -0000 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:18:41 +0100, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Before 9.0 I used to use sysinstall to download sources for several > > distributions including kernel and libraries. However, this doesn't see= m > to > > work anymore. Whatever source distribution I try to download I get the > > error that it doesn't exist in the server. > > > > The handbook[1] still says sysinstall can be used to do the job. Is it > > right? If so, what could be my mistake. > > The easiest way to get the RELEASE sources is to download > them using FTP: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.0-RELEASE/src.txz > > (and for amd64 architecture respectively) > > Leaving the discussion "old vs. new installer" aside, this > method should always work. > Thanks for the URL. Should I file a PR about the handbook issue? > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 22:33:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE20310656D6 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD338FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108BC5081B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:33:05 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:33:05 -0800 Message-ID: <15808.1329863585@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:33:13 -0000 So, um, I just came into possession of a brand spankin' new Brother MFC-7860DW all-in-one multifunction machine, and 'me having some fun exploring it. Unlike the multifunction machine this is replacing (which had only an old centronics/parallel port and a USB port) this new Brother machine has only USB and Ethernet ports. (Well, um, it apparently can be spoken to wirelessly, via 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, also, but I'm studiously ignoring that.) Anyway, I needed to hook this thing to a single Windows 2000 machine and a single FreeBSD (8.x) machine. I couldn't immediately figure out how to make FreeBSD talk to it over ethernet so I just used the USB port for that connection, and (fortunately) the supplied software that came with the machine allows Windows 2000 to talk to the thing over the ethernet connection. I've run simple printing tests and this setup is all working just dandy, for both plain text and Postscript. One thing that I learned is that (contrary to the setup instructions) when you first wire the thing up to your ethernet hub/router/whatever, you have to power cycle the Brother machine in order to get it to initiate DHCP and pull an IP address for itself (and other stuff) from your router. (I have a nice old reliable Linksys WRT54g and this worked fine with no problem.) But like any new high-tech toy, I can't help being curious about the thing, so I ran a TCP port scan and here's what I came up with: 25 23 21 80 515 631 9100 54921 54922 54923 Very interesting! I'm damn glad the thing is behind a nat box, elsewise I can well imagine all sorts of mischief that outsiders could get into with this thing. I wasn't familiar with any of the ports above 80, so I had to look those up. Port 515 is apparently implementing the "LPR" protocol described in RFC 1179. There is apparently some info available on using this with FreeBSD here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-lpr-freebsd.html and when I get a bit more un-lazy I'll delve into that more deeply. Port 631 apparently implements "IPP" (Internet Printing Protocol) which is summarized here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol and which apparently has a bleep-load of relevant RFCs. It also appears to me (from some quick googling) that the CUPS printing system can speak IPP. Regarding port 9100, my local /etc/services file says: jetdirect 9100/tcp #HP JetDirect card so I guess that Brother has probably implemeted an emulation of an HP JetDirect thingy on port 9100. The 5492x ports are all an enigma to me. If anybody knows what those are for, please let me know. Port 80 is running a web server, and this thing can be configured with a web browser via that port. (This seems to be the way that EVERYTHING is going these days.) Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely acts like an SMTP server. However it appears to me that it only accepts e-mail for one very specific email address, <...@example.com>, where the '...' part is actually a long (unique?) string of letter and numbers that I found on one of the config printout pages that I generated when I was installing this thing. I have no idea what this is all about. I successfully sent a short test e-mail to that address, manually typing in all of the necessary SMTP commands (via telnet to port 25) and nothing whatsoever happened. I had kind-of been expecting that what I sent (via SMTP) would be printed, but it just didn't happen. Maybe I need to sent it a MIME-encoded message instead (?) It was pretty much the same story for port 23 (telnet). I telnetted to it and it answered/connected, but then it didn't print anything at all... no banner, no greeting, no prompt, nothing. So then I typed some gibberish (which didn't echo, BTW) and then exited telnet and I expected what I had typed to print but nothing happened. Port 21 (ftp) was a nice surprise however. Apparently you can FTP to this multifunction machine, log in as "anonymous" and then whatever files you PUT to the thing get printed. This apparently works for both plain text and Postscript. That's all. I just wanted to share all this info in case it might be useful to anyone. But I'm also curious still about those 5492x ports, and the functionality (if any) that is being implemented on ports 25 and 23. If anybody happens to know about that stuff, let me know. Oh! And also one last question: Other than CUPS (which I don't particularly like very much) are there any low-level tools that are available on FreeBSD and that speak the LPR protocol or the IPP protocol or the JetDirect protocol? (I don't really NEED that, since my current setup allows me to do everything I need to do already, but I'd sort-of like to get my FreeBSD box talking to this new machine via the ethernet connection, you know, just on principal.) Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 22:49:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032B51065670 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EFC8FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9345C28 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:02:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D84825C22 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:02:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F441E38.5090406@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:44:08 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:49:04 -0000 On 02/22/12 01:44, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:45:05 +1000, Da Rock wrote: >> To the OP, check the pages Polytropon has linked here, but the chances >> of getting exactly that are nil to impossible. I've run about 6 or more >> laptops now without too much trouble. The biggest problems were >> wireless, but that was the bad old days... most support is there now >> thanks to Adrianns work. > Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all > the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not > switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless > devices. I've never used, so I hadn't thought of it. That doesn't work for desktop either does it? One thing I have tested is the backlight turns off when you close the lid and the power button will do a proper shutdown. I haven't heard of the others working - at the very least you need to script it for your own needs. >> Having a live disk is not likely to help for several reasons: >> 1. there aren't really the tools to see if something will actually work >> in a production environment (unless pc-bsd have a disc I don't know >> about). For instance, wifi maybe recognised but not actually work and >> error like crazy only once you start to use it. > The main idea of using such a system is to most precisely > determine the _present_ hardware to allow further investigations > (e. g. web searches and mailing list questions). The OS from > disc or stick can help to identify the hardware. If you're > running a live file system from a USB stick, you can do > things like: > > # dmesg > # pciconf -lv > # usbconfig > # sysctl -a > > If you start the system by "boot -v" (verbose logging), dmesg > will contain some more lines than usual. If you have a USB > stick, you can easily save the output of those commands to > persistent files. > > If you have X in the mix, you can also check the support for > the display and obtain other information that might be important > later on (especially GPU info): > > # glxinfo > # xvinfo > > Log files worth saving are in /var/log, as well as Xorg.0.log > for X-related things. > > If you prepare some programs, you can also do some testing, > e. g. multimedia, gaming, 3D support, networking and so on. Fair comment. I had in mind mostly a CD, but I admit a USB will be far better. I also had in mind the livefs system produced by the releases, which doesn't give much at all. X would be very helpful and implies a full system on the disk - this _will_ do most tests for a production environment, like test whether components actually work or are just recognised. >> 2. The BIOS will get in your way - see recent thread regarding samsung >> laptop not installing. I don't think the salespeople will let you play >> with that either. > Depends. If you're interested in buying one of the more > expensive ones, they will offer you a "test ride" which > includes that you have a look at the CMOS setup (which is > something very typical for you as an IT professional). > > You can say: "The BIOS is defective, it doesn't allow me > to boot a standard OS. Let's see... for 100$ less, I would > still do you a favour and buy it." :-) You are a devious one Polytropon :) That would depend on the sales enviornment and country your in. Here they have the systems running with a lease on and a screenlock, and try to show you as little as possible to buy the thing... or you buy online. I'd love to try that trick of yours though.... >> If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf >> -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to >> use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better. > USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow > you to store files (as the results of your investigation). Definitely agreed. But you'd need a full on system to do this, preferably with X - watch the Vid cards. That said you can always use vesa anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 23:13:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BDA106566B for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9FE8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09085C28 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E9A15C22 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:34 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F4423DE.3030204@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:08:14 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <15808.1329863585@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <15808.1329863585@tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:13:09 -0000 On 02/22/12 08:33, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > So, um, I just came into possession of a brand spankin' new Brother > MFC-7860DW all-in-one multifunction machine, and 'me having some fun > exploring it. > > Unlike the multifunction machine this is replacing (which had only an > old centronics/parallel port and a USB port) this new Brother machine > has only USB and Ethernet ports. (Well, um, it apparently can be spoken > to wirelessly, via 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, also, but I'm studiously ignoring that.) > > Anyway, I needed to hook this thing to a single Windows 2000 machine and > a single FreeBSD (8.x) machine. I couldn't immediately figure out how > to make FreeBSD talk to it over ethernet so I just used the USB port for > that connection, and (fortunately) the supplied software that came with > the machine allows Windows 2000 to talk to the thing over the ethernet > connection. I've run simple printing tests and this setup is all working > just dandy, for both plain text and Postscript. > > One thing that I learned is that (contrary to the setup instructions) when > you first wire the thing up to your ethernet hub/router/whatever, you have > to power cycle the Brother machine in order to get it to initiate DHCP and > pull an IP address for itself (and other stuff) from your router. (I have > a nice old reliable Linksys WRT54g and this worked fine with no problem.) > > But like any new high-tech toy, I can't help being curious about the thing, > so I ran a TCP port scan and here's what I came up with: > > 25 > 23 > 21 > 80 > 515 > 631 > 9100 > 54921 > 54922 > 54923 > > Very interesting! I'm damn glad the thing is behind a nat box, elsewise I > can well imagine all sorts of mischief that outsiders could get into with > this thing. > > I wasn't familiar with any of the ports above 80, so I had to look those > up. > > Port 515 is apparently implementing the "LPR" protocol described in RFC 1179. > There is apparently some info available on using this with FreeBSD here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/corp-net-guide/printserving-lpr-freebsd.html > > and when I get a bit more un-lazy I'll delve into that more deeply. > > Port 631 apparently implements "IPP" (Internet Printing Protocol) which is > summarized here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol > > and which apparently has a bleep-load of relevant RFCs. It also appears to > me (from some quick googling) that the CUPS printing system can speak IPP. > > Regarding port 9100, my local /etc/services file says: > > jetdirect 9100/tcp #HP JetDirect card > > so I guess that Brother has probably implemeted an emulation of an HP JetDirect > thingy on port 9100. Not necessarily. That could be accurate, but a lot of networks were using 9100 on an enterprise level to assist with a "global" print solution, printing across the internet and vpn's and such. I'm not sure how relevant it is today, but over a decade ago it _was_ a new thing. Before IPP there was this :) > The 5492x ports are all an enigma to me. If anybody knows what those are > for, please let me know. Probably some brother specific protocol to tell the app more specifically whats happening. Also to assist setup. > Port 80 is running a web server, and this thing can be configured with a > web browser via that port. (This seems to be the way that EVERYTHING is > going these days.) > > Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely acts > like an SMTP server. However it appears to me that it only accepts e-mail > for one very specific email address,<...@example.com>, where the '...' > part is actually a long (unique?) string of letter and numbers that I found > on one of the config printout pages that I generated when I was installing > this thing. I have no idea what this is all about. I successfully sent > a short test e-mail to that address, manually typing in all of the necessary > SMTP commands (via telnet to port 25) and nothing whatsoever happened. I had > kind-of been expecting that what I sent (via SMTP) would be printed, but it > just didn't happen. Maybe I need to sent it a MIME-encoded message instead (?) > > It was pretty much the same story for port 23 (telnet). I telnetted to it and > it answered/connected, but then it didn't print anything at all... no banner, > no greeting, no prompt, nothing. So then I typed some gibberish (which didn't > echo, BTW) and then exited telnet and I expected what I had typed to print but > nothing happened. Not everything is to just print. That said the ftp was nice... Telnet specifically is for setting up the unit, and also implementing some "hacks" that may be required. Don't expect it to print. Perhaps try $ help. You said the machine was multifunction. Does that include fax? Then that is what the smtp is for. If not then there may be a sibling with it and they share similar code. > Port 21 (ftp) was a nice surprise however. Apparently you can FTP to this > multifunction machine, log in as "anonymous" and then whatever files you PUT > to the thing get printed. This apparently works for both plain text and > Postscript. > > That's all. I just wanted to share all this info in case it might be useful > to anyone. But I'm also curious still about those 5492x ports, and the > functionality (if any) that is being implemented on ports 25 and 23. If > anybody happens to know about that stuff, let me know. > > Oh! And also one last question: Other than CUPS (which I don't particularly > like very much) are there any low-level tools that are available on FreeBSD > and that speak the LPR protocol or the IPP protocol or the JetDirect protocol? > (I don't really NEED that, since my current setup allows me to do everything > I need to do already, but I'd sort-of like to get my FreeBSD box talking to > this new machine via the ethernet connection, you know, just on principal.) Cups uses the base LPR, so there you have it. Ethernet is usually the easiest to use and setup - excepting maybe parallel, but who's using that these days? (and before I hear an outcry, I mean the manufacturers - Canon, for instance, have a policy of no more parallel as of around 2004) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 23:19:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FD6106566C for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108EF8FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-75-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.75.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14DF3DFFD; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:19:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1LNJD8r003017; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:19:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:19:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20120222001913.284b65c6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4F441E38.5090406@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F441E38.5090406@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:19:16 -0000 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:44:08 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On 02/22/12 01:44, Polytropon wrote: > > Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all > > the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not > > switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless > > devices. > I've never used, so I hadn't thought of it. That doesn't work for > desktop either does it? If you can show me how to close a desktop's or minitower's lid... :-) When APM was the standard for those functionalities, it worked perfectly at the time APM had been obsoleted. I assume the same thing regarding ACPI will be the same: When it works, it gets replaced by something else. > One thing I have tested is the backlight turns off when you close the > lid and the power button will do a proper shutdown. I haven't heard of > the others working - at the very least you need to script it for your > own needs. Depends. Sometimes you might intend that closing the lid doesn't cause _any_ action, and the power button to be the power button (causing a shutdown). Exanple: You are using the laptop with external keyboard, mouse and screen. To avoid the internal keyboard to become dusty, closing the laptop would be nice. And if you're done with the work - also applies when used "normally" - press the power button, close the lid, and the device will power down in few seconds. Modern laptops don't seem to be able to perform like that. If you press the power button, maybe they shutdown. If you close the light right after that, it will go into some sleep or hibernate mode _during_ the shutdown. As far as I know, many of such functionalities depends on the ACPI implementation. Here, manufacturers often do a crappy job, not caring for specifications and standards. This may often render parts of the device useless. > Fair comment. I had in mind mostly a CD, but I admit a USB will be far > better. I also had in mind the livefs system produced by the releases, > which doesn't give much at all. X would be very helpful and implies a > full system on the disk - this _will_ do most tests for a production > environment, like test whether components actually work or are just > recognised. Live file systems like FreeSBIE produced good results when the underlying OS was recent. 3D and current drivers might be a problem today. > >> If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf > >> -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to > >> use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better. > > USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow > > you to store files (as the results of your investigation). > Definitely agreed. But you'd need a full on system to do this, > preferably with X - watch the Vid cards. That said you can always use > vesa anyway. Of course, but if you are interested in utilizing the new system's full functionality, being able to also load kernel drivers (such as nVidia and ATI) could also be a benefit. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 21 23:36:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011501065674 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7182E8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC8A5C28 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:49:30 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1421A5C22 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:49:30 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F44293E.9080003@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F441E38.5090406@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120222001913.284b65c6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120222001913.284b65c6.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:36:05 -0000 On 02/22/12 09:19, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:44:08 +1000, Da Rock wrote: >> On 02/22/12 01:44, Polytropon wrote: >>> Today's problems seem to be suspend/resume/hibernate (all >>> the variations of "it's not switched on, but also not >>> switched off entirely") and some specific sorts of wireless >>> devices. >> I've never used, so I hadn't thought of it. That doesn't work for >> desktop either does it? > If you can show me how to close a desktop's or minitower's > lid... :-) > > When APM was the standard for those functionalities, it > worked perfectly at the time APM had been obsoleted. I > assume the same thing regarding ACPI will be the same: > When it works, it gets replaced by something else. Kinda like 802.11n and flash... >> One thing I have tested is the backlight turns off when you close the >> lid and the power button will do a proper shutdown. I haven't heard of >> the others working - at the very least you need to script it for your >> own needs. > Depends. Sometimes you might intend that closing the lid > doesn't cause _any_ action, and the power button to be > the power button (causing a shutdown). Exanple: You are > using the laptop with external keyboard, mouse and screen. > To avoid the internal keyboard to become dusty, closing > the laptop would be nice. And if you're done with the > work - also applies when used "normally" - press the > power button, close the lid, and the device will power > down in few seconds. > > Modern laptops don't seem to be able to perform like that. > If you press the power button, maybe they shutdown. If > you close the light right after that, it will go into some > sleep or hibernate mode _during_ the shutdown. > > As far as I know, many of such functionalities depends > on the ACPI implementation. Here, manufacturers often > do a crappy job, not caring for specifications and standards. > This may often render parts of the device useless. Most of it all can be scripted using devd. I don't know of any acpi laptops that have it builtin, it all has to implemented in the OS. Except the lid and backlight. The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it suspended! Grr! >> Fair comment. I had in mind mostly a CD, but I admit a USB will be far >> better. I also had in mind the livefs system produced by the releases, >> which doesn't give much at all. X would be very helpful and implies a >> full system on the disk - this _will_ do most tests for a production >> environment, like test whether components actually work or are just >> recognised. > Live file systems like FreeSBIE produced good results > when the underlying OS was recent. 3D and current drivers > might be a problem today. > > > >>>> If you do this *and* get it to boot, you want to get a copy of pciconf >>>> -lv which will give you the best idea on whats what. You may be able to >>>> use a linux live disk (if you can get it to boot) to accomplish this better. >>> USB sticks seem to be the best solution as they can allow >>> you to store files (as the results of your investigation). >> Definitely agreed. But you'd need a full on system to do this, >> preferably with X - watch the Vid cards. That said you can always use >> vesa anyway. > Of course, but if you are interested in utilizing the > new system's full functionality, being able to also load > kernel drivers (such as nVidia and ATI) could also be a > benefit. Unfortunately merely loading the drivers won't tell you much without X. They can conflict (or not) only when run by X. These days, though, its not just video to worry about like this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 00:20:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97953106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317F58FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1M0KpwC047575; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:20:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id q1M0Gqs2011893; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:16:52 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:16:52 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120222 #7046018, check: 20120222 clean Subject: tnftpd conversions feature X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:20:54 -0000 I have been trying to use tnftpd's conversion feature with programs of my own design instead of gzip or tar. However, it seems for every program I write, when the conversion feature is called for I get the following response: 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||19158|) This doesn't happen when I just "get" a file, unless the conversion feature is invoked. Also, my program is in fortran, and if I include a "getarg" command, the following message is returned by my ftp client: 226-Command returned an exit status of 1 226-Command error messages: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: environment corrupt; missing value for a"( /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: environment corrupt; aborting 226 Transfer complete. instead of the standard output of my conversion. Running under 7.1 I got the same message, but also the correct file was transferred. Under 8.1 I don't get the file. I am running tnftpd in a chroot environment, and the program works fine if I login to the server and do: chroot /var/ftp cd tmp ./program Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280DB1065670 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C308FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1M0i0DT008143; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:44:02 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:43:58 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <2585F37E-7B1F-4E76-8925-838B40C0F4DE@lafn.org> <20120221161838.07c09ef5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120221161838.07c09ef5.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202220743.59140.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Subject: Re: /usr/home vs /home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:44:08 -0000 Hi, On Tuesday 21 February 2012 22:18:38 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:53:10 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > > The RK05 had one removable platter in a plastic housing. > > Please compare the images of the drive and the media. > Does it look similar? > > > > Removable platters types EC 5269 in plastic cartridge: > > http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/komponenten/datentraeger.htm#wechselplatte > it looks like the DEC media. > > > Drive ISOT 1370 with one fixed platter and one removable platter: > > http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/zubehoer/wechselplatten.htm#isot1370 > This is what we have had. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 00:50:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E7F106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE9E8FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1M0obrp009572; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:50:39 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:50:42 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F3ECF23.5000706@fisglobal.com> <201202191226.47196.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202220750.42925.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: David Brodbeck Subject: Re: One or Four? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:50:43 -0000 Hi, On Wednesday 22 February 2012 02:48:21 David Brodbeck wrote: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > it will not even boot if there is only a single slice with root and the rest on it if the background fsck cannot be run. > > > > I have to go to real remote locations once in a while where an USP is not of real help anymore as the USP is not able to charge its battery before the next power failure comes. It happened there some times that the /usr slice needs a foreground check. Of course, all can be fixed. > > > > I cannot imagine that this would still work if / is on the same slice as the rest of the data. > > Why not? / gets mounted read-only, foreground fsck is run on /, system boots... > > Maybe I'm just not understanding the problem here. I suppose in > theory your root filesystem could be so corrupt that it won't even > mount read-only, but I've never actually seen that happen except in > the case of an outright disk failure. it happened to me under very strange circumstances. I was in a location with extremely bad power supply where even an USP has had problems recharging far enough to allow for a decent shutdown. I believe that main cause was that the last power failure occurred when fsck was running shortly after a reboot. As a result, only / got mounted. I have had to run a foreground fsck on the affected slices. It did not just happen once but several times. It did not happen to me since the switch to 6 many years ago. So, it is something rare, but it exists. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 00:56:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B431065686 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AEB8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so13010033iae.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:56:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.208.1 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.208.1; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.208.1 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jkikpole@cairodurham.org Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.208.1]) by 10.50.208.1 with SMTP id ma1mr27478235igc.4.1329872176008 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:56:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.208.1 with SMTP id ma1mr22338154igc.4.1329870844710; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:34:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.20.158 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:34:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:34:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime Kikpole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZMka/g/DS1D7EgltAmZFA7BoTcPqircKNdUNnfj50vXMiDCybY/KkRM+fBd4ToibHwpWY Subject: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:56:16 -0000 I'm attempting to upgrade Request Tracker manually. (I know that there is a port, but I'd like to preserve my data, thus I'm doing this "the old fashioned way." :) ) When I run the "make fixdeps" step described in the directions, it attempts to load ExtUtil::MakeMaker from CPAN -- even though its already installed. This wouldn't be so bad, but it actually hangs and uses 100% of CPU time (according to "top") like its in an infinite loop. This is the output just before it hangs: [...cut...] Manifying blib/man3/File::Temp.3 Manifying blib/man3/ExtUtils::MM_Any.3 MSCHWERN/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.62.tar.gz /usr/bin/make -- OK CPAN: YAML loaded ok (v0.68) Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/00compile.t ............. ok t/arch_check.t ............ ok t/backwards.t ............. ok t/basic.t ................. ok t/build_man.t ............. ok t/cd.t .................... ok t/config.t ................ ok t/dir_target.t ............ ok t/FIRST_MAKEFILE.t ........ ok t/fix_libs.t .............. ok t/fixin.t ................. ok t/hints.t ................. ok t/INST.t .................. ok t/INST_PREFIX.t ........... ok t/INSTALL_BASE.t .......... 3/20 I've found references to this on the web. They seem to indicate that its something with the FreeBSD port and that its fixed in version 6.63. Unfortunately, only version 6.62 is in the ports collection. Anyone know what to do to get past this? Thanks in advance, Jaime -- Network Administrator Cairo-Durham Central School District http://cns.cairodurham.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 00:57:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA021065674 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40158FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1071 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2012 00:57:56 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2012 00:57:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=4f443d94.xn--hew.k1202; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=enZsZi1z5Z6T3xjX6D+pvFsWa13701HB/1mHOphUY6I=; b=XnaOBSGTp/Z/unc4jyOABN4+Up627oRhPVnJbAyqJ8/59QeWLNqdfIcCLf0858lpH7C7ptK0GJEpZrcWVpk5l6idFUJ+dzJMeQtaku31wHj0hfr5nsLUKmjIFPNkg1pCCXHUg620Qjq7l+sNB+xuG/zoOgBJ3DLLyQbIikMKCOA= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 22 Feb 2012 00:57:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20120222005734.1353.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15808.1329863585@tristatelogic.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com Subject: Re: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:57:58 -0000 >Port 515 is apparently implementing the "LPR" protocol described in RFC 1179. Right. See the "rp" option in /etc/printcap. You can also use CUPS. >Port 631 apparently implements "IPP" (Internet Printing Protocol) which is >summarized here: Works great with CUPS, which is vastly overimplented, but surprisingly easy to use. >Regarding port 9100, my local /etc/services file says: > jetdirect 9100/tcp #HP JetDirect card That's typically known as "socket". Works great with CUPS. >Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely acts >like an SMTP server. Why not read the manual and find out? Click the Support tab on Brother's web site and you can find lots and lots of documentation for that printer. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 01:14:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF03106566B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F66B8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so6200723wib.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.78.98 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.78.98; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.78.98 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.78.98]) by 10.180.78.98 with SMTP id a2mr30492850wix.17.1329873241331 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:14:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=REQ4FbsLCYR0Dj+jQsT7S6QK3pQq7g42CP5Dsv/7Q6o=; b=OLQ6fwWf1f/1vaAj/QPeNpgIjM/CBNgV3wvQlHNbbOX52RgJ0pbfyyIAkLXEKbcoKo PRHSUpMdj0hfKkByYHK4fgOB9wwdKPfHiky7gGtIQFiIQti7CXH3TjvNKKTKj1oq2l99 2bBV9APwwqZPFHqIowI7hFuInYqcPp1RtjjJg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.78.98 with SMTP id a2mr25395954wix.17.1329873241174; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:14:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:14:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: apache22 + php5 (package not ports) ~ spawn-fcgi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:14:03 -0000 is there a way to make apache22 w/ php5 without using /usr/ports? just using pkg_add -r apache22 && pkg_add -r php5 maybe through spawn-fcgi somehow? anyone have a good example/docs how to do it? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 01:20:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76A71065670 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB738FC24 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:20:26 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZR00DN2T210350@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:20:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-21_09:2012-02-21, 2012-02-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1202210301 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:20:25 -0800 Message-id: References: To: alexus X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache22 + php5 (package not ports) ~ spawn-fcgi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:20:26 -0000 On Feb 21, 2012, at 5:14 PM, alexus wrote: > is there a way to make apache22 w/ php5 without using /usr/ports? Yes, you could download and build the sources yourself without using ports. It wouldn't be any faster or easier, though. > just using pkg_add -r apache22 && pkg_add -r php5 No. The precompiled php5 package doesn't come with mod_php Apache module, in part because there are many apache versions against which it might be compiled. > maybe through spawn-fcgi somehow? I suppose, or just normal CGI mechanism. > anyone have a good example/docs how to do it? http://www.fastcgi.com/drupal/node/6 Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 01:31:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A98106566B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4896E8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so6712306wer.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.104.4; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.104.4 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.104.4]) by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr31593958wib.17.1329874296162 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:31:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=scS8YXJkMAZkHy9GYLmSNdDOgo0861ZM2RhEU/BQimw=; b=I5d9jK40RNjmdE8WUHbKr4pSWmYNXWcpZyANHSmjpHV8XEXmXYy6X0tTxUdRX8k8a+ jIyeUZoPPs0hewm8AT9Z6tuCNpsrEgN9xziyqdmz/3x6Z3+cj1G8sMwtVI+yuM/oZDoN c8GCh9u7jQSWOZx+aBgfpfjNZMvZlnlUjf2iM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.104.4 with SMTP id ga4mr26395364wib.17.1329874296099; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:31:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:31:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache22 + php5 (package not ports) ~ spawn-fcgi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:31:37 -0000 I dont think you really grasping what I was asking.. I am aware that I can build from source, yet I'm trying to stay away from that route due to a lot of overhead going forward... I'm also aware that php5 or actually apache22 doesn't come with mod_php as well, and as alternative I'm willing to go spawn-fcgi route instead, and this is what I'm interested in. I'm looking for some blog/howtos of people already done it on freebsd and not just a general fastcgi.com site :) So, if anyone have an experience or know a good resources that may be useful for me at this point of time, I'd highly appreciate if you can post it here. Thank you in advance. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Feb 21, 2012, at 5:14 PM, alexus wrote: >> is there a way to make apache22 w/ php5 without using /usr/ports? > > Yes, you could download and build the sources yourself without using port= s. > It wouldn't be any faster or easier, though. > >> just using pkg_add -r apache22 && pkg_add -r php5 > > No. =C2=A0The precompiled php5 package doesn't come with mod_php Apache m= odule, > in part because there are many apache versions against which it might be = compiled. > >> maybe through spawn-fcgi somehow? > > I suppose, or just normal CGI mechanism. > >> anyone have a good example/docs how to do it? > > =C2=A0http://www.fastcgi.com/drupal/node/6 > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 03:49:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229361065692 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8958FC1B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C5B5081D for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:49:43 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20120222005734.1353.qmail@joyce.lan> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:49:43 -0800 Message-ID: <18564.1329882583@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:49:45 -0000 In message <20120222005734.1353.qmail@joyce.lan>, John Levine wrote: >>Regarding port 9100, my local /etc/services file says: >> jetdirect 9100/tcp #HP JetDirect card > >That's typically known as "socket". Works great with CUPS. As Robert Bonomi was kind enough to relate to me, this is the most simple & trivial way to send a document to the printer... just connect to port 9100 and then just push the file out to the printer, e.g. using `nc'. I tried it and it works great. >>Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely acts >>like an SMTP server. > >Why not read the manual and find out? Thanks John. The question is ``Which one?'' There's at least five different manuals for this thing on the Brother site. And, ah, even if I was just to peruse the default (main user's manual) that thing is like 200+ pages. Yes, OK, call me lazy. Much simpler to just ask the helpful folks here. >Click the Support tab on Brother's >web site and you can find lots and lots of documentation for that printer. Yea, that's part of my point. Too much of a good thing. Anyway, just in case anybody is interested, so far this thing (MFC-7860DW) seem to be working good for me. I haven't tried using _every_ feature (yet), and specifically I haven't even tried the duplex printing or the Wi-Fi connectivity or the scanning (to PeeCee), but for printing (via USB & ethernet) and sending and receiving FAXes it all seems to work well. The only glitches so far are: 1) You gotta make a point of smushing your pages well and truly down into the ADF or else the machine won't know they are there (apparently) and will get confused, thinking that maybe you are trying to FAX something directly off the flatbed. 2) As several reviewers on Amazon reported, the thing is a bit noisy... well... not really. It's just different from my prior multifunction in that it has a 80mm fan on the side, and it seems to want to run it a lot... whether the thing really needs some cooling or not. And in an office environment, that fan seems noisy. The good news is that you can set the sleep timeout in the web interface down to 1 minute, whereupon the fan only stays on for 1 minute after actual activity and then the machine goes dead slient (``deep sleep''). Regards, rfg P.S. I just tried using the scan-to-FTP feature. Works like a charm. Way cool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 03:56:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57A71065673 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCA68FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so6282215wib.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.93.232 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.93.232; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.180.93.232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.93.232]) by 10.180.93.232 with SMTP id cx8mr32352053wib.14.1329883013191 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:56:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=esk3O79RiPSqMaKwNYsj/YTm3y9jvTZtZR3Q+FonFw0=; b=vv3vE9mDVWEz75zZ12YDGToiWDB8YFGSn32ojYe0jU8viHE6CjK9LM2nVu3mTgsdZr 5fqJur/iQqbWQD6a7pAuHYhBQOTiGQjlB0UdQP/Tz+9yGBoHqtDiH54LlCHWqGkyAnry Ylqv4vk1UpIeiPFB45PqaCR9gQ1WqFic8YGew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.93.232 with SMTP id cx8mr27001239wib.14.1329883013071; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:56:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201202030915.42976.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201202030915.42976.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:56:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd package update / upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:56:54 -0000 f9# portupgrade --use-packages-only -av ---> Session started at: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:44:07 -0500 [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 23025 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6= 000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.....= ....12000.........13000.........14000.........15000.........16000.........1= 7000.........18000.........19000.........20000.........21000.........22000.= ........23000 ..... done] ---> Checking for the latest package of 'x11/xcb-util' ** No such file or directory - /usr/ports/packages/All ---> Fetching the package(s) for 'xcb-util-0.3.6,1' (x11/xcb-util) ---> Fetching xcb-util-0.3.6,1 ++ Will try the following sites in the order named: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org//pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/ ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradezRNyMfFc/xcb-util-0.3.6,1.tbz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/xcb= -util-0.3.6,1.tbz' fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/A= ll/xcb-util-0.3.6,1.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) ** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1 ** Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/xcb-= util-0.3.6,1.tbz ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradezRNyMfFc/xcb-util-0.3.6,1.txz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/xcb= -util-0.3.6,1.txz' fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/A= ll/xcb-util-0.3.6,1.txz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) ** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1 ** Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/xcb-= util-0.3.6,1.txz ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradezRNyMfFc/xcb-util-0.3.6,1.tgz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/xcb= -util-0.3.6,1.tgz' fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/A= ll/xcb-util-0.3.6,1.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) ** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1 ** Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/xcb-= util-0.3.6,1.tgz ** Failed to fetch xcb-util-0.3.6,1 ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! xcb-util-0.3.6,1 (fetch error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed ---> Fetching the latest package(s) for 'xcb-util' (x11/xcb-util) ---> Fetching xcb-util ++ Will try the following sites in the order named: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org//pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/ ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradev3WY15SS/xcb-util.tbz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/Latest/= xcb-util.tbz' /var/tmp/portupgradev3WY15SS/xcb-util.tbz 100% of 72 kB 71 kBps ---> Downloaded as xcb-util.tbz ---> Identifying the package /var/tmp/portupgradev3WY15SS/xcb-util.tbz ---> Saved as /usr/ports/packages/All/xcb-util-0.3.6_1.tbz ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) + xcb-util@ ---> Packages processed: 1 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed ---> Found a package of 'x11/xcb-util': /usr/ports/packages/All/xcb-util-0.3.6_1.tbz (xcb-util-0.3.6_1) ---> Located a package version 0.3.6_1 (/usr/ports/packages/All/xcb-util-0.3.6_1.tbz) ** Ignoring the package, which is the same version as is installed (0.3.6_1= ) ** No package available: x11/xcb-util ---> ** Upgrade tasks 5: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed ---> Checking for the latest package of 'devel/pcre' ---> Fetching the package(s) for 'pcre-8.21_1' (devel/pcre) ---> Fetching pcre-8.21_1 ++ Will try the following sites in the order named: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org//pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/ ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradeY26QDgh7/pcre-8.21_1.tbz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pcr= e-8.21_1.tbz' fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/A= ll/pcre-8.21_1.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) ** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1 ** Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pcre= -8.21_1.tbz ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradeY26QDgh7/pcre-8.21_1.txz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pcr= e-8.21_1.txz' fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/A= ll/pcre-8.21_1.txz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) ** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1 ** Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pcre= -8.21_1.txz ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradeY26QDgh7/pcre-8.21_1.tgz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pcr= e-8.21_1.tgz' fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/A= ll/pcre-8.21_1.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) ** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1 ** Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pcre= -8.21_1.tgz ** Failed to fetch pcre-8.21_1 ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! pcre-8.21_1 (fetch error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed ---> Fetching the latest package(s) for 'pcre' (devel/pcre) ---> Fetching pcre ++ Will try the following sites in the order named: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org//pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/ ---> Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o '/var/tmp/portupgradeTCONbart/pcre.tbz' 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/Latest/= pcre.tbz' /var/tmp/portupgradeTCONbart/pcre.tbz 100% of 780 kB 216 kBps ---> Downloaded as pcre.tbz ---> Identifying the package /var/tmp/portupgradeTCONbart/pcre.tbz ---> Saved as /usr/ports/packages/All/pcre-8.20.tbz ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) + pcre@ ---> Packages processed: 1 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed ---> Found a package of 'devel/pcre': /usr/ports/packages/All/pcre-8.20.tbz (pcre-8.20) ---> Located a package version 8.20 (/usr/ports/packages/All/pcre-8.20.tbz= ) ** Ignoring the package, which is the same version as is installed (8.20) ** No package available: devel/pcre ---> ** Upgrade tasks 5: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 2 failed ---> Skipping 'devel/glib20' (glib-2.28.8_2) because a requisite package 'pcre-8.20' (devel/pcre) failed (specify -k to force) ---> ** Upgrade tasks 5: 0 done, 0 ignored, 1 skipped and 2 failed ---> Skipping 'security/snort' (snort-2.9.1.2) because a requisite package 'pcre-8.20' (devel/pcre) failed (specify -k to force) ---> ** Upgrade tasks 5: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 2 failed ---> Skipping 'security/nmap' (nmap-5.61.t2) because a requisite package 'pcre-8.20' (devel/pcre) failed (specify -k to force) ---> ** Upgrade tasks 5: 0 done, 0 ignored, 3 skipped and 2 failed ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! x11/xcb-util (xcb-util-0.3.6_1) (package not found) ! devel/pcre (pcre-8.20) (package not found) * devel/glib20 (glib-2.28.8_2) * security/snort (snort-2.9.1.2) * security/nmap (nmap-5.61.t2) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 3 skipped and 2 failed ---> Session ended at: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:45:00 -0500 (consumed 00:00:52) f9# i dont understand output it seemed like portupgrade tried downloading xcb-util from few place first unsuccessful but later on stumble upon a place to download it and then didnt install it because i already have this package installed, then it moved to pcre (same story here) and last part is totally looses me, it sees that I have pcre yet it something isn't good... i do have pcre installed f9# pkg_info | grep ^pcre pcre-8.20 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions library f9# all I want is to update these f9# portaudit -a Affected package: python27-2.7.2_3 Type of problem: Python -- DoS via malformed XML-RPC / HTTP POST request. Reference: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/b4f8be9e-56b2-11e1-9fb7-003067b2972= c.html Affected package: sudo-1.8.3_1 Type of problem: sudo -- format string vulnerability. Reference: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/7c920bb7-4b5f-11e1-9f47-00e0815b8da= 8.html Affected package: ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 Type of problem: Multiple implementations -- DoS via hash algorithm collisi= on. Reference: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/91be81e7-3fea-11e1-afc7-2c4138874f7= d.html 3 problem(s) in your installed packages found. You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediately. f9# P.S. why is it pkg_add installing vulnerable versions at the first place? i just installed ruby and already is a problem?? On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 03 February 2012 08:52:07 alexus wrote: >> What's the procedure on updating packages (not ports), can someone >> point me (preferably in a handbook) or else where is fine too... > > it is also done with portupgrade. You just have to use -P or -PP. > > Check the manual to find out more. > > Erich >> >> -- >> http://alexus.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> >> --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 05:02:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417AF106566B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB208FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S04Ls-00045R-0C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:02:52 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:02:51 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:02:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:03:09 -0500 Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: apache22 + php5 (package not ports) ~ spawn-fcgi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:02:54 -0000 alexus wrote: > I dont think you really grasping what I was asking.. > I am aware that I can build from source, yet I'm trying to stay away > from that route due to a lot of overhead going forward... > I'm also aware that php5 or actually apache22 doesn't come with > mod_php as well, and as alternative I'm willing to go spawn-fcgi route > instead, and this is what I'm interested in. > I'm looking for some blog/howtos of people already done it on freebsd > and not just a general fastcgi.com site :) > So, if anyone have an experience or know a good resources that may be > useful for me at this point of time, I'd highly appreciate if you can > post it here. You do not need spawn-fcgi wrt to PHP. I install software by compiling through the ports system, as it is just so much more maintainable in the long run. Also, you are more able to select build options which are better suited to your needs and environment. I have built Apache outside the ports tree in the long-ago past, so I do understand how. It's just there really is not a great reason to do so. In my case, I utilize the apache-event MPM in conjunction with FastCGI. Originally I began with mod_fcgi, and it seemed to work well. When I learned that mod_fastcgi was supposed to work better with PHP-FPM I switched to it when I made the change to PHP-FPM. PHP-FPM runs on it's own at boot and has it's own startup scripts. You can set the options to do this when you build the base PHP port by choosing WITH_CLI=true, WITH_CGI=true, WITH_FPM=true and you will not need spawn- fcgi; PHP-FPM supplies this functionality [e.g 'long-running process'] by design. Also there is a .conf you can use to adjust your PHP CGI pools in a much more granular way than with spawn-fcgi. Irregardless of which MPM you run Apache with, the next step is to connect Apache through mod_fastcgi to these running instance(s) of PHP. Here is an example from httpd.conf for this: [...] LoadModule fastcgi_module libexec/apache22/mod_fastcgi.so [...] Alias /php-cgi /usr/local/www/fastcgi/php-cgi #FastCGIExternalServer /usr/local/www/fastcgi/php-cgi -flush -host 127.0.0.1:9000 FastCGIExternalServer /usr/local/www/fastcgi/php-cgi -flush -socket /tmp/php- fm.sock AddType application/x-httpd-php .php Action application/x-httpd-php /php-cgi Order deny,allow Deny from all Order allow,deny Allow from all Notice I use a socket, and this socket is configured in the php-fpm.conf. The normal default is to use the TCP loopback. This also is probably not the best config available, but it supplies my very basic needs. If you are trying to set up Apache with mod_fastcgi, go with PHP-FPM as your CGI version of the PHP port build (set in the make config options) and it will be easy. IMHO this is a better way to go than spawn-fcgi, especially wrt to PHP specifically. --Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 05:13:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576EB106566C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7668FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so6320024wib.13 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.131.234; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.131.234]) by 10.216.131.234 with SMTP id m84mr10325376wei.24.1329887611761 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:13:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bVITBwUdZI+oc7IZIuh9JbF+Keger68c0n2tiNeclKo=; b=tGvqZdzKxJc9ae6tZ7JkwfuEXMvXUzBSbpeiETu9pUm7yfBkGxKMmHmxzR/VFkq6x8 JBGMIWcKfpID7X0QvS5dml7QibHbH1bnjbn3xhC3+25halI/CbSq4N47TJ8sOsncFNxi z1AxKBjV6gIPgGNdhoydSK50MyEl8Gy4D9QRE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.131.234 with SMTP id m84mr8465950wei.24.1329887611670; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:13:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:13:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache22 + php5 (package not ports) ~ spawn-fcgi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:13:33 -0000 thank you for your respond - that's my plan b i'd like to know if i can exercise my plan a first: i already have installed apache22, php5 as package (pkg_add) without having them build through /usr/ports (i know how everyone likes ports around here). i want to see if it's possible to have a link between apache22 and php5 with using packages only (i.e. without /usr/ports) and since mod_php is mia for whatever reason(s) i want to see if fastcgi can be used and PHP-FPM isn't available in packages too (i'm start thinking packages sucks comparing to /usr/ports) basically my last resort (at least that i know of to try) is to go with spawn-fcgi. i dont have alot of requirements but i do need apache22 + php5 to talk to each others and i want to know if it can be done with pkg_add vs /usr/ports On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Michael Powell w= rote: > alexus wrote: > >> I dont think you really grasping what I was asking.. >> I am aware that I can build from source, yet I'm trying to stay away >> from that route due to a lot of overhead going forward... >> I'm also aware that php5 or actually apache22 doesn't come with >> mod_php as well, and as alternative I'm willing to go spawn-fcgi route >> instead, and this is what I'm interested in. >> I'm looking for some blog/howtos of people already done it on freebsd >> and not just a general fastcgi.com site :) >> So, if anyone have an experience or know a good resources that may be >> useful for me at this point of time, I'd highly appreciate if you can >> post it here. > > > You do not need spawn-fcgi wrt to PHP. I install software by compiling > through the ports system, as it is just so much more maintainable in the > long run. Also, you are more able to select build options which are bette= r > suited to your needs and environment. I have built Apache outside the por= ts > tree in the long-ago past, so I do understand how. It's just there really= is > not a great reason to do so. > > In my case, I utilize the apache-event MPM in conjunction with FastCGI. > Originally I began with mod_fcgi, and it seemed to work well. When I lear= ned > that mod_fastcgi was supposed to work better with PHP-FPM I switched to i= t > when I made the change to PHP-FPM. > > PHP-FPM runs on it's own at boot and has it's own startup scripts. You ca= n > set the options to do this when you build the base PHP port by choosing > WITH_CLI=3Dtrue, WITH_CGI=3Dtrue, =C2=A0WITH_FPM=3Dtrue and you will not = need spawn- > fcgi; PHP-FPM supplies this functionality [e.g 'long-running process'] by > design. Also there is a .conf you can use to adjust your PHP CGI pools in= a > much more granular way than with spawn-fcgi. > > Irregardless of which MPM you run Apache with, the next step is to connec= t > Apache through mod_fastcgi to these running instance(s) of PHP. Here is a= n > example from httpd.conf for this: > > [...] > LoadModule fastcgi_module =C2=A0 =C2=A0 libexec/apache22/mod_fastcgi.so > > [...] > > > Alias /php-cgi /usr/local/www/fastcgi/php-cgi > #FastCGIExternalServer /usr/local/www/fastcgi/php-cgi -flush -host > 127.0.0.1:9000 > FastCGIExternalServer /usr/local/www/fastcgi/php-cgi -flush -socket /tmp/= php- > fm.sock > =C2=A0AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > =C2=A0Action application/x-httpd-php /php-cgi > > =C2=A0 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Order deny,allow > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Deny from all > =C2=A0 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Order allow,deny > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Allow from all > =C2=A0 > =C2=A0 > > > Notice I use a socket, and this socket is configured in the php-fpm.conf.= The > normal default is to use the TCP loopback. This also is probably not the > best config available, but it supplies my very basic needs. If you are tr= ying > to set up Apache with mod_fastcgi, go with PHP-FPM as your CGI version of > the PHP port build (set in the make config options) and it will be easy. = IMHO > this is a better way to go than spawn-fcgi, especially wrt to PHP > specifically. > > --Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 05:52:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D551065672 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417FD8FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1M5qU9b046125; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:52:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F448285.7010804@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:52:05 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alexus References: <201202030915.42976.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd package update / upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:52:33 -0000 2012-02-22 04:56, alexus skrev: > all I want is to update these > > f9# portaudit -a > Affected package: python27-2.7.2_3 > Type of problem: Python -- DoS via malformed XML-RPC / HTTP POST request. > Reference: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/b4f8be9e-56b2-11e1-9fb7-003067b2972c.html portupgrade -iR (use p also if you want to build a package) python27 > Affected package: sudo-1.8.3_1 > Type of problem: sudo -- format string vulnerability. > Reference: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/7c920bb7-4b5f-11e1-9f47-00e0815b8da8.html portupgrade -iR(p) sudo > Affected package: ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 > Type of problem: Multiple implementations -- DoS via hash algorithm collision. > Reference: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/91be81e7-3fea-11e1-afc7-2c4138874f7d.html portupgrade -iR(p) ruby > 3 problem(s) in your installed packages found. > > You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediately. > f9# > > P.S. why is it pkg_add installing vulnerable versions at the first > place? i just installed ruby and already is a problem?? Because pakages are built for *-RELEASE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 06:54:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECACA1065672 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03D68FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:54:47 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [10.1.2.182] (unknown [173.200.187.194]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZS00F0Z8J9E160@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:54:47 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-22_01:2012-02-21, 2012-02-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1202210404 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:54:45 -0800 Message-id: <33E68F43-2611-4E3B-A25F-F8A07BF7CB13@mac.com> References: To: alexus X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache22 + php5 (package not ports) ~ spawn-fcgi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:54:48 -0000 On Feb 21, 2012, at 5:31 PM, alexus wrote: > I dont think you really grasping what I was asking.. With respect, of course I understand what you were asking. > I am aware that I can build from source, yet I'm trying to stay away > from that route due to a lot of overhead going forward... OK. You cannot expect someone else's precompiled binaries to precisely match your particular circumstances, so you're choosing to give that up in favor of convenience, but that is a reasonable decision if the value of configuring the webserver well for the site is less than the value of a few hours of your (or someone's) time. > I'm also aware that php5 or actually apache22 doesn't come with > mod_php as well, and as alternative I'm willing to go spawn-fcgi route > instead, and this is what I'm interested in. OK. > I'm looking for some blog/howtos of people already done it on freebsd > and not just a general fastcgi.com site :) You haven't indicated anything so far which would suggest the general documentation was insufficient. What have you tried? > So, if anyone have an experience or know a good resources that may be > useful for me at this point of time, I'd highly appreciate if you can > post it here. With respect, I can recall when Brian Behlendorf and Andrew Wilson and some other folks started collecting a bunch of patches to the NCSA webserver, which became known as Apache-0.60 back around 1994, and later was publicly released in 1995 as Apache-0.70 or so. Well, there are other folks who deal with webservers at sites for which the cost of downtime is measured in the millions of dollars per hour from whom you can seek advice.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 07:42:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91496106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egoitz@ramattack.net) Received: from proxypop04.sare.net (proxypop04.sare.net [194.30.0.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA148FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.saremail.com (unknown [194.30.0.100]) by proxypop04.sare.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6B409DC56B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:42:26 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:42:26 +0100 From: egoitz@ramattack.net To: In-Reply-To: <4F43F10B.4020803@fisglobal.com> References: "\"<201045320adcd61af12f6d6df2ffdd4e@ramattack.net>" " <006b01ccf0c3$0263b6c0$072b2440$@fisglobal.com> <4d1b4484fdf4aef1a8a267f05f71f450@ramattack.net> <007001ccf0c6$a4a920c0$edfb6240$@fisglobal.com> <4F43F10B.4020803@fisglobal.com> Message-ID: X-Sender: egoitz@ramattack.net User-Agent: Saremail/0.6-svn Subject: Re: New iso format on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:42:28 -0000 On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:31:23 -0800, Robison, Dave wrote: > On 02/21/2012 10:28, Devin Teske wrote: >> Why can't you mount the disc on /mnt and then use tar after mounting >> the disk to copy the files from /mnt to /destdir ... >> >> tar cpf - -C /mnt . | tar xvpf - -C /destdir >> >> That will preserve hard links, symlinks, permissions, and times (and >> doesn't require rsync). >> >> There are other methods involving cpio, but I find tar to be nice. > > > Just FYI, a trick using cpio which Julian once taught me: > > find . -depth | cpio -pdmluv /destination/dir/here > > > -- > Dave Robison > Sales Solution Architect II > FIS Banking Solutions > 510/621-2089 (w) > 530/518-5194 (c) > 510/621-2020 (f) > daver@vicor.com > david.robison@fisglobal.com > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > confidential. 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Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks a lot this one and the previous advice using tar was what I was looking for :) :) Thanks a lot really :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 09:26:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DA8106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E048FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1M9QooZ009932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:50 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1M9QooZ009932 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q1M9QooZ009932; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F44B4D3.1070004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:43 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1F839C9FFA1B12336A6C76D9" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1F839C9FFA1B12336A6C76D9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/2012 00:34, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > I'm attempting to upgrade Request Tracker manually. (I know that > there is a port, but I'd like to preserve my data, thus I'm doing this > "the old fashioned way." :) ) Speaking as the rt40 port maintainer, I feel you may be making your life unnecessarily difficult here. The port won't touch your data: it does precisely nothing to the database. It does let you set default values for DB connection parameters at install time, but that's not required and you can just use the normal configuration files to the same effect. Unless you've made lots of local tweaks to the code, and not by using the recognised extension method, using the port should not be damaging to your setup. If you find otherwise, I'd like very much to hear about it so I can fix the problem. > When I run the "make fixdeps" step described in the directions, it > attempts to load ExtUtil::MakeMaker from CPAN -- even though its > already installed. This wouldn't be so bad, but it actually hangs and > uses 100% of CPU time (according to "top") like its in an infinite > loop. This is the output just before it hangs: >=20 > [...cut...] > Manifying blib/man3/File::Temp.3 > Manifying blib/man3/ExtUtils::MM_Any.3 > MSCHWERN/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.62.tar.gz > /usr/bin/make -- OK > CPAN: YAML loaded ok (v0.68) > Running make test > PERL_DL_NONLAZY=3D1 /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/arch" "-Iblib/lib" > "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', > 'blib/arch')" t/*.t > t/00compile.t ............. ok > t/arch_check.t ............ ok > t/backwards.t ............. ok > t/basic.t ................. ok > t/build_man.t ............. ok > t/cd.t .................... ok > t/config.t ................ ok > t/dir_target.t ............ ok > t/FIRST_MAKEFILE.t ........ ok > t/fix_libs.t .............. ok > t/fixin.t ................. ok > t/hints.t ................. ok > t/INST.t .................. ok > t/INST_PREFIX.t ........... ok > t/INSTALL_BASE.t .......... 3/20 >=20 >=20 > I've found references to this on the web. They seem to indicate that > its something with the FreeBSD port and that its fixed in version > 6.63. Unfortunately, only version 6.62 is in the ports collection. >=20 > Anyone know what to do to get past this? Hmmm... well, the port doesn't use 'make fixdeps' because it's the ports job to ensure that all the required dependencies are fulfilled. However, if I try it manually, everything works just fine. This is on a system with only the version of E::MM that comes bundled with perl-5.12 (which is version 6.56). The make fixdeps output looks completely different though -- what version of RT are you trying to use? lucid-nonsense:/tmp/rt-4.0.5:# make fixdeps /usr/bin/perl ./sbin/rt-test-dependencies --verbose --install --with-SQLi= te perl: >=3D5.8.3(5.12.4) ...found users: rt group (www) ...found bin owner (root) ...found libs owner (root) ...found libs group (bin) ...found web owner (www) ...found web group (www) ...found CLI dependencies: Term::ReadKey ...found Getopt::Long >=3D 2.24 ...found HTTP::Request::Common ...found Term::ReadLine ...found Text::ParseWords ...found LWP ...found CORE dependencies: DateTime >=3D 0.44 ...found Class::ReturnValue >=3D 0.40 ...found Text::Quoted >=3D 2.02 ...found Regexp::IPv6 ...found CSS::Squish >=3D 0.06 ...found Encode >=3D 2.39 ...found DateTime::Locale >=3D 0.40 ...found Module::Versions::Report >=3D 1.05 ...found MIME::Entity >=3D 5.425 ...found Digest::SHA ...found List::MoreUtils ...found DBI >=3D 1.37 ...found Locale::Maketext::Lexicon >=3D 0.32 ...found Devel::StackTrace >=3D 1.19 ...found Digest::base ...found Text::Password::Pronounceable ...found Devel::GlobalDestruction ...found Time::ParseDate ...found File::Temp >=3D 0.19 ...found Locale::Maketext >=3D 1.06 ...found Tree::Simple >=3D 1.04 ...found Text::Template >=3D 1.44 ...found Scalar::Util ...found HTML::Quoted ...found HTML::Scrubber >=3D 0.08 ...found File::Spec >=3D 0.8 ...found DBIx::SearchBuilder >=3D 1.59 ...found Sys::Syslog >=3D 0.16 ...found Mail::Mailer >=3D 1.57 ...found File::ShareDir ...found Regexp::Common ...found Digest::MD5 >=3D 2.27 ...found Cache::Simple::TimedExpiry ...found File::Glob ...found Class::Accessor >=3D 0.34 ...found Locale::Maketext::Fuzzy ...found Time::HiRes ...found Text::Wrapper ...found Regexp::Common::net::CIDR ...found Net::CIDR ...found Log::Dispatch >=3D 2.23 ...found UNIVERSAL::require ...found Email::Address ...found DASHBOARDS dependencies: HTML::RewriteAttributes >=3D 0.04 ...found MIME::Types ...found GD dependencies: GD::Text ...found GD ...found GD::Graph ...found GPG dependencies: PerlIO::eol ...found GnuPG::Interface ...found ICAL dependencies: Data::ICal ...found MAILGATE dependencies: Pod::Usage ...found HTML::TreeBuilder ...found Getopt::Long ...found HTML::FormatText ...found LWP::UserAgent ...found MASON dependencies: Storable >=3D 2.08 ...found CSS::Squish >=3D 0.06 ...found Apache::Session >=3D 1.53 ...found Errno ...found Devel::StackTrace >=3D 1.19 ...found IPC::Run3 ...found CGI::Cookie >=3D 1.20 ...found Text::WikiFormat >=3D 0.76 ...found XML::RSS >=3D 1.05 ...found HTML::Mason >=3D 1.43 ...found Digest::MD5 >=3D 2.27 ...found JSON ...found PSGI dependencies: CGI::Emulate::PSGI ...found CGI >=3D 3.38 ...found CGI::PSGI >=3D 0.12 ...found HTML::Mason::PSGIHandler >=3D 0.52 ...found Plack >=3D 0.9971 ...found Plack::Handler::Starlet ...found SMTP dependencies: Net::SMTP ...found SQLITE dependencies: DBD::SQLite >=3D 1.00 ...found USERLOGO dependencies: Convert::Color ...found All dependencies have been found. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:08:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig20B88836C0538065876E1AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/2012 05:13, alexus wrote: > thank you for your respond - that's my plan b > i'd like to know if i can exercise my plan a first: > i already have installed apache22, php5 as package (pkg_add) without > having them build through /usr/ports (i know how everyone likes ports > around here). > i want to see if it's possible to have a link between apache22 and > php5 with using packages only (i.e. without /usr/ports) and since > mod_php is mia for whatever reason(s) i want to see if fastcgi can be > used and PHP-FPM isn't available in packages too (i'm start thinking > packages sucks comparing to /usr/ports) basically my last resort (at > least that i know of to try) is to go with spawn-fcgi. i dont have > alot of requirements but i do need apache22 + php5 to talk to each > others and i want to know if it can be done with pkg_add vs /usr/ports It is true that packages are really quite lacking compared to ports. I doubt that it would ever be possible to create pre-compiled packages that provide the same level of flexibility and configurability as you get with ports, but that doesn't mean there are not a large number of improvements that could be made. That packages are not really up to the required standard is well known amongst FreeBSD users, but somehow always seems to come as an unpleasant surprise to new users. If there is a certain detectable note of asperity in the way we say "just use the ports -- it's easy, and fun for all the family" that's because we keep on having to say the same thing over and over. Eventually we'll get fed up with telling people there's no demand, and provide a pkg system more in line with their expectations. Moves are already afoot -- http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng -- but it's going to take some time before that has any material effects on end-user experience. As to your specific problem: yes, it is a cause of contention that mod_php is not enabled in the default php5 package. I don't entirely understand why the port maintainer made that decision. php-fpm is not enabled by default either, because it is still considered experimental code in the currently available php5-5.3.10_1 -- I read that it will no longer be considered experimental in php 5.4 but you're going to have to wait until that gets released. Have you considered nginx + spawn-fcgi? Or lighttpd (with its built-in fastcgi support)? I think those should work entirely through available packages, and should be at least competitive in performance with apache + whatever-PHP. Usually nginx or lighttpd pretty much smoke apache performance-wise, but they are lot simpler and much smaller applications so not quite as capable of doing everything apache can. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig20B88836C0538065876E1AB0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9EvokACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxB7ACeLOSNVQNoD4jd5KhRtUt5ir1O Z2oAn3Ok9kalPpCLNav2wCv2GmjwUaBQ =b+uz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig20B88836C0538065876E1AB0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 12:38:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C945106566C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aydin.demirel@endersys.com) Received: from nusret.endersys.com (nusret.endersys.com [77.92.112.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E0C8FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (surmail 7894 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2012 12:12:04 -0000 Received: from 95.9.132.220.static.ttnet.com.tr (HELO AuthenticatedHELO) (aydin.demirel@[Authenticated]) (envelope-sender ) by nusret.endersys.com (surmail-1.0) with SMTP for ; 22 Feb 2012 12:12:04 -0000 Message-ID: <4F44DB74.1050607@endersys.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:11:32 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?QXlkxLFuIERlbWlyZWw=?= Organization: Emdersys Ltd. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBsd 8.2 and Hyper-V X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aydin.demirel@endersys.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:38:31 -0000 Hi; Is there aynone that can install the freebsd 8.2 with Hyper-V? Regards -- *Aydın Demirel Endersys Ltd. Sistem Destek Mühendisi/ System Support Engineer* * *<> Phone : +90 216 470 9423 | GSM : +90 530 401 8203 Fax : +90 216 470 9508 | Web : http://www.endersys.com Blog : http://blog.endersys.com Twitter : http://www.twitter.com/endersys LPI : The #1 Linux Certification for IT Professionals LPI (Linux Professional Institute) Turkey http://www.lpi-turkey.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 12:48:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE10106566C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68978FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcuy19 with SMTP id uy19so22127542obc.30 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.203.33 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.203.33; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.203.33 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jkikpole@cairodurham.org Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.203.33]) by 10.50.203.33 with SMTP id kn1mr26318134igc.1.1329914924309 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:48:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.203.33 with SMTP id kn1mr21325569igc.1.1329914922407; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.20.158 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:48:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F44B4D3.1070004@FreeBSD.org> References: <4F44B4D3.1070004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:48:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime Kikpole To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkLnN58cGrGcpxC8JB4JHmg6GdmW140czTYng8i8Pqrwi69UqK1oZXEjxy4Weaz9lMmnv9h Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:48:45 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote= : > Speaking as the rt40 port maintainer, I feel you may be making your life > unnecessarily difficult here. =A0The port won't touch your data: it does > precisely nothing to the database. =A0It does let you set default values > for DB connection parameters at install time, but that's =A0not required > and you can just use the normal configuration files to the same effect. I had no idea. I assumed that it could only attempt to setup a new DB. Thank you. That will be a big help. Does the rt40 port make a new MySQL database by the name of rt4? My current data is in a MySQL database named rt3, which is why I ask. How would you recommend getting the migrated data over to the new version? As a side note, it seems that I've put off the Apache 1.3.x to 2.x upgrade for far too long. The rt40 port requires p5-Log-Dispatch which requires some Apache port. Since apache13 was deprecated in November, I'll have to upgrade Apache itself first. I'm thinking that I'll do that today and go with the apache22 port. I'm open to advise on the Apache upgrade if anyone has any. > Hmmm... well, the port doesn't use 'make fixdeps' because it's the ports > job to ensure that all the required dependencies are fulfilled. That is very good news. Thank you. > However, if I try it manually, everything works just fine. =A0This is on = a > system with only the version of E::MM that comes bundled with perl-5.12 > (which is version 6.56). =A0The make fixdeps output looks completely > different though -- what version of RT are you trying to use? RT 4.0.5. Perl 5.8.9. Thanks so much for the help. Its one of the great things about the open source community that I'm not at the mercy of a "help desk" that say things like "OK, why don't you go ahead and reinstall it, then?" Jaime --=20 Network Administrator Cairo-Durham Central School District http://cns.cairodurham.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 12:50:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34561065674 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCB78FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcwo16 with SMTP id wo16so12907265obc.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com designates 10.60.11.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.60.11.234; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com designates 10.60.11.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.60.11.234]) by 10.60.11.234 with SMTP id t10mr14517264oeb.27.1329915036056 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:50:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mZSHIFYvvmeXNXNNKaxuwvQmNF0fz99y29uC8HC17R4=; b=moXYhFFVmw2qm6sFyafVi5PH5/bKLaV41jyphXiYU/JhjjuOtln92qYdL+n8TXXZE4 8fkAK/JvafU0rYMiaVoZ1ffcvkCMWkAAJoTCpVIMy12e+zKObrWNqc7ln75OUuZ2hd6k 9ErFb6qxFZnrVcCo2EQb3a0O48kcSJrwB83bw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.11.234 with SMTP id t10mr12378513oeb.27.1329915035173; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:50:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.38.38 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:50:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F44DB74.1050607@endersys.com> References: <4F44DB74.1050607@endersys.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: aydin.demirel@endersys.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBsd 8.2 and Hyper-V X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:50:36 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Ayd=C4=B1n Demirel wrote: > Hi; > > Is there aynone that can install the freebsd 8.2 with Hyper-V? > > Regards > > -- > > *Ayd=C4=B1n Demirel > Endersys Ltd. > Sistem Destek M=C3=BChendisi/ System Support Engineer* > > * > *< http://www.europe.redhat.com/**partners/endersys/ > >> > Phone : +90 216 470 9423 | GSM : +90 530 401 8203 > Fax : +90 216 470 9508 | Web : http://www.endersys.com < > http://www.endersys.com/> > > Blog : http://blog.endersys.com > Twitter : http://www.twitter.com/**endersys > LPI : The #1 Linux Certification for IT Professionals > LPI (Linux Professional Institute) Turkey http://www.lpi-turkey.com < > http://www.lpi-turkey.com/> > > http://www.bimel.com.tr/tr/hizmetler Server (UNIX / Linux / NT / 2000 alt=C4=B1nda WEB / DNS / MAIL / FTP / Fire= wall / Proxy) Windows, Linux, Unix =C4=B0=C5=9Fletim Sistemleri Kurulumu http://www.bim.net.tr/tr/sunucu-kurulumu Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 12:54:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFC61065672 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845288FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.86] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1MCsJiD077966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:54:21 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4F44E576.5000006@ifdnrg.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:54:14 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120208 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <15808.1329863585@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <15808.1329863585@tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:54:24 -0000 On 21/02/2012 22:33, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely acts > like an SMTP server. However it appears to me that it only accepts e-mail > for one very specific email address,<...@example.com>, where the '...' > part is actually a long (unique?) string of letter and numbers that I found > on one of the config printout pages that I generated when I was installing > this thing. I have no idea what this is all about. I successfully sent > a short test e-mail to that address, manually typing in all of the necessary > SMTP commands (via telnet to port 25) and nothing whatsoever happened. I had > kind-of been expecting that what I sent (via SMTP) would be printed, but it > just didn't happen. Maybe I need to sent it a MIME-encoded message instead (?) Some of these printers have scan and email functionality, you can usually set this up in the web admin. You'll want to change the example.com address to your own and it might want to talk to an external smart host. I doubt you can email it print jobs, but there are utilities which i've seen that can do that, (monitors a pop account and sends a job to printer if something comes in to that address, eg a taxi bookings firm i know does this). Paul. > > Regards, > rfg > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546< Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB1C106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w3@langhans.com.pl) Received: from mail.langhans.com.pl (host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl [194.126.238.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BDB8FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.langhans.com.pl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BCDE2234EBB7; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:04:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:04:12 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> References: <20120221223326.9EAE51065814@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120221223326.9EAE51065814@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Installation troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:04:15 -0000 Hi Daemons, yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31. Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible. Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer? The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD. All ideas welcome, thank you herb langhans From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 14:07:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A55B106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3488FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1ME7bwC025075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:07:37 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1ME7bwC025075 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q1ME7bwC025075; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F44F6A1.9080202@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:07:29 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4F44B4D3.1070004@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9E46995C5209587C7783CDC3" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:07:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9E46995C5209587C7783CDC3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/2012 12:48, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Matthew Seaman w= rote: >> Speaking as the rt40 port maintainer, I feel you may be making your li= fe >> unnecessarily difficult here. The port won't touch your data: it does= >> precisely nothing to the database. It does let you set default values= >> for DB connection parameters at install time, but that's not required= >> and you can just use the normal configuration files to the same effect= =2E >=20 > I had no idea. I assumed that it could only attempt to setup a new > DB. Thank you. That will be a big help. It's a FreeBSD ports thing -- ports generally do not provide pre-packaged configurations, on the basis that is what sysadmins are for.= > Does the rt40 port make a new MySQL database by the name of rt4? My > current data is in a MySQL database named rt3, which is why I ask. > How would you recommend getting the migrated data over to the new > version? No -- as I said, the port doesn't touch the database at all. What it does do is print out a message with some instructions on what to do next. Actually, these are pretty much a condensed version of what is in the README in the rt-4.0.5 sources. To create a brand-new empty database and associated userid and password for rt-4.0.5 run: /usr/local/sbin/rt-setup-database --action create,acl \ --prompt-for-dba-password This will use the defaults specified when you built the port, prompting you for the password for the privileged DBA login used to do the schema modification bits. (While you can set that at build time, I don't recommend it on the basis that it will store the password internally in plain text.) You may need to do other dba related bits, like editing the pg_hba.conf file to allow the new user appropriate access levels. For upgrades from rt-3.x to rt-4.x, the procedure would be to start with a copy of your rt3 DB loaded into a new rt4 DB instance -- ie. by using mysqldump and mysql client to load, or pg_dump and psql to load or the equivalent for whatever RDBMS you prefer. Then use rt-setup-database to apply the required schema updates. Note: although the rt40 port defaults to using MySQL, personally, I'd choose PostgreSQL for a new install. (Pg supports full-text indexing natively, whereas MySQL needs external software and more to do so.) Switching RDBMSes as part of the upgrade is not a trivial operation, so unless you have good reason, just stick with whatever DB you've already g= ot. The DB default of MySQL is what was there historically, and I didn't think my arbitrarily changing that was justified. > As a side note, it seems that I've put off the Apache 1.3.x to 2.x > upgrade for far too long. The rt40 port requires p5-Log-Dispatch > which requires some Apache port. Since apache13 was deprecated in > November, I'll have to upgrade Apache itself first. I'm thinking that > I'll do that today and go with the apache22 port. I'm open to advise > on the Apache upgrade if anyone has any. >=20 rt40 can be run with any web server supported by PSGI, which is rather more than just Apache. (There's even a built-in pure-perl one, but that's really not suitable for any sort of serious usage level.) While apache22 is the default, p5-Log-Dispatch doesn't have any apache dependencies that I can see... How hard the apache upgrade is for you depends on what else you serve with your apache13 instance currently. If this is a server dedicated to RT, then it should be pretty simple. For a dedicated RT VHOST (or a dedicated apache instance), and assuming a) you're using mod_perl and b) you want to use HTTPS, the rt-related config should look something like this: ServerName rt.example.org SSLEngine on SSLCertificateFile www/apache22/certs/rt.example.org-cert.pem SSLCertificateKeyFile www/apache22/certs/rt.example.org-key.pem AddDefaultCharset UTF-8 DocumentRoot "/usr/local/share/rt40/html" Order Allow,Deny Allow from 192.0.2.0/24 SetHandler modperl PerlResponseHandler Plack::Handler::Apache2 PerlSetVar psgi_app /usr/local/sbin/rt-server use Plack::Handler::Apache2; Plack::Handler::Apache2->preload("/usr/local/sbin/rt-server"); (Just drop the lines starting SSL and change the port number to 80 if you prefer plain text HTTP.) There are some more examples in the RT supplied documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/rt40/web_deployment.pod >> Hmmm... well, the port doesn't use 'make fixdeps' because it's the por= ts >> job to ensure that all the required dependencies are fulfilled. >=20 > That is very good news. Thank you. >=20 >=20 >> However, if I try it manually, everything works just fine. This is on= a >> system with only the version of E::MM that comes bundled with perl-5.1= 2 >> (which is version 6.56). The make fixdeps output looks completely >> different though -- what version of RT are you trying to use? >=20 > RT 4.0.5. Perl 5.8.9. I think there may well be moves to drop perl-5.8 support from ports in the relatively near future. If you're going to be having an update-fest anyhow, then I'd recommend switching to perl-5.12 instead. > Thanks so much for the help. Its one of the great things about the > open source community that I'm not at the mercy of a "help desk" that > say things like "OK, why don't you go ahead and reinstall it, then?" Thank you. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig9E46995C5209587C7783CDC3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9E9qkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIypQACffDD4NZuUTIduDOGgZ6G84FaI kggAoJNTiC4mbTt3XCOMPYILqHVvIIhU =wTAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9E46995C5209587C7783CDC3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 14:36:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59264106566B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail1.dur1.host-h.net (mail1.dur1.host-h.net [196.7.18.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E219A8FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.7.147.49] (helo=[192.168.1.86]) by mail1.dur1.host-h.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0DIs-00074y-6O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:36:22 +0200 Message-ID: <4F44FD65.9000807@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:36:21 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20120216 Icedove/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/14494/Wed Feb 22 05:33:10 2012) Subject: ps3mediaserver working on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:36:26 -0000 Hiya I cant find any reference to this asked before on this mailinglist. Anyone get ps3mediaserver working on FreeBSD? If so, please will you advise me on your steps. Currently using Mediatomb, but I find it doesnt always work for every avi. I tried Ushare, but avi's, dont get listed on Playstation. Thanks Brent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 14:51:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C097106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C63C8FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BD55C28 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:04:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 109725C22 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:04:55 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F44FFC9.102@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:46:33 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120221223326.9EAE51065814@hub.freebsd.org> <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> In-Reply-To: <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installation troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:51:29 -0000 On 02/23/12 00:04, herbert langhans wrote: > Hi Daemons, > yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31. > > Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to > such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel > scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible. > > Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over > another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed > harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff > what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer? > > The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD. Interesting. Could it be some setting in the bios? USB legacy option or such that could be stopping it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 14:58:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17514106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7A48FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-75-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.75.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAA63D40A; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:58:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1MEwbSA002048; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:58:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:58:36 +0100 From: Polytropon To: herbert langhans Message-Id: <20120222155836.c8766cc6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> References: <20120221223326.9EAE51065814@hub.freebsd.org> <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:58:58 -0000 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:04:12 +0100, herbert langhans wrote: > Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over > another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed > harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff > what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer? I've done this with a very old laptop (where I did install its 2.5" disk using an adapter in a "normal" PC). After that, booting performed normally. I've also used a 5.4-p12 PATA disk on a system that previously ran 7-STABLE during a data recovery session - it also booted fine, except X didn't come up (xorg.conf had hardcoded S3, system had an ATI card). But the OS never did anything strange. The only issue I say _may_ be boot loading device names (e. g. if the disk will be ad0 in the run-laptop, but ad4 in the install-laptop); using GPT partitioning or labels should avoid this problem. FreeBSD is totally agnostic of "this is not the system I've been installed to". Hardware detection will take place when you boot it, _not_ when you install it. After you have installed the OS, see if it properly boots (or if scanning the USB ports causes a kernel lock again). Do any further installs (ports / packages) from the new laptop. It's also worth mentioning that you need to have the capability to run the same architecture (i386 or amd64) on both machines, and use the proper install image (e. g. don't try to install amd64 version of the OS on a system that doesn't run it). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 15:54:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1236C106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48438FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so116235ggn.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.50.179.6 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.179.6; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.50.179.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aimass@yabarana.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.179.6]) by 10.50.179.6 with SMTP id dc6mr27455401igc.15.1329926052249 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:54:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.179.6 with SMTP id dc6mr22243154igc.15.1329926051962; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:54:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:54:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:54:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nc5sCWN2FK1oGOZ3dVcMGi2C2Yg Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Jaime Kikpole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl15QX0qbs+vS37IneXntRAjUQHpgO2woCPTHpMRggccNA/ROE0+FGOhyLVwFTe1cnaj3vD Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:54:14 -0000 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Jaime Kikpole w= rote: > I'm attempting to upgrade Request Tracker manually. =A0(I know that > there is a port, but I'd like to preserve my data, thus I'm doing this > "the old fashioned way." =A0:) ) > > When I run the "make fixdeps" step described in the directions, it > attempts to load ExtUtil::MakeMaker from CPAN -- even though its > already installed. =A0This wouldn't be so bad, but it actually hangs and > uses 100% of CPU time (according to "top") like its in an infinite > loop. =A0This is the output just before it hangs: > Your post makes me very happy to know I wasn't crazy: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D918414 This is a pain in the ass and I don't know if it's a FBSD CPAN problem or a CPAN dependency problem but it does happen, and it's really annoying. I don't have a fix but a workaround. It will always hang on the same test, so just ^C and "look" into the module. remove the test and go back to the cpan shell. It won't bother you again for the whole CPAN session. --=20 Alejandro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 16:20:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC518106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548B88FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdq11 with SMTP id dq11so185496wgb.31 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of illoai@gmail.com designates 10.180.92.71 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.92.71; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of illoai@gmail.com designates 10.180.92.71 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=illoai@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=illoai@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.92.71]) by 10.180.92.71 with SMTP id ck7mr46018141wib.3.1329927604087 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:20:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/zmrbFuB2FPjNBEsMzJbseGcWyz8ZJ4+1I41onqCK94=; b=UCBZ7BBoCNYJmfW2FsRDknoQ+25poSDScJ79aL7qF6QBXBtosA5lSAg8w4Oc0kAYu+ lxJPnUhc8EZcf6uEpKKGanssl/6hB34Nt9hbxFdew+mAS/RN52A1kq0Q9SmrrrqsayqP lE4d93H7ETpd5RhrSH1CEbIhkpvpz5AmFNzc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.92.71 with SMTP id ck7mr38031648wib.3.1329927604022; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.5.142 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:20:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> References: <20120221223326.9EAE51065814@hub.freebsd.org> <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:20:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: herbert langhans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:20:07 -0000 On 22 February 2012 09:04, herbert langhans wrote: > Hi Daemons, > yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31. > > Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to > such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel > scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible. > > Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over > another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed > harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff > what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer? > > The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD. " http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X31 " has a lot of good advice, though it tends to be a bit more linux-centric. I bought a cheap ATA -> USB adapter that had a lap-top style 44-pin connector (in addition to the usual 40-pin IDE) and installed i386 on an old X40 from a running copy of amd64 (make TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld make TARGET_ARCH=i386 installworld DESTDIR=/mnt/x40disk &cet after setting up and mounting the proper partitions) It worked fine, outside of the flaky intel 2100 wireless chip. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 15:32:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3315E106566B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568A88FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1MFWAvA023318; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:32:12 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:32:15 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <20120221223326.9EAE51065814@hub.freebsd.org> <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> In-Reply-To: <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202222232.15911.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:26:33 +0000 Cc: herbert langhans Subject: Re: Installation troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:32:16 -0000 Hi, On Wednesday 22 February 2012 21:04:12 herbert langhans wrote: > Hi Daemons, > yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31. > > Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to > such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel > scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible. > > Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over > another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed > harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff > what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer? > > The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD. > > All ideas welcome, thank you > herb langhans > I did this several times before but I used to connect the hard disk via USB. Just get an USB case for the disk. It is much easier this way as you keep one notebook intact. You have to check the drives in fstab and rc.conf. If I remember right the rest was ok. Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 16:35:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F20106567A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A548FC1E for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl12 with SMTP id l12so165564yen.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:35:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.50.236.3 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.236.3; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.50.236.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aimass@yabarana.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.236.3]) by 10.50.236.3 with SMTP id uq3mr27829251igc.11.1329928547675 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:35:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.236.3 with SMTP id uq3mr22546154igc.11.1329928546149; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:35:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:35:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:35:46 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8SSBhzvS8h8PxFqRKgYX7jzFP1M Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Jaime Kikpole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkKL1cIh6zKQTJ6IvHMss0Tcx7lNv60o18Zp7E97pICjO53SnyBNyQ230h95837cjDCrqj+ Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:35:49 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Your post makes me very happy to know I wasn't crazy: > > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=918414 > > This is a pain in the ass and I don't know if it's a FBSD CPAN problem > or a CPAN dependency problem but it does happen, and it's really > annoying. I don't have a fix but a workaround. It will always hang on > the same test, so just ^C and "look" into the module. remove the test > and go back to the cpan shell. It won't bother you again for the whole > CPAN session. > > -- > Alejandro This person says the problem is in BSDPAN::ExtUtils::Packlist - maybe someone could help the maintainer solve this problem! It is _really_, _really_ annoying. I sadly don't have the time right now and only deal with problem from time to time, but if someone has the time it would be really great to fix!!! http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=922671 -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 16:36:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A83A106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF108FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1MGaTfw029032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:36:29 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1MGaTfw029032 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329928589; bh=0ecUGn1WcEYX83nEkdZTC2w/uZ9htCpAiiC/+78UR8E=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=iMoTBkBc5+1WuRuUoRPfjTplZ3+GbQ72qc/H/TqtK1SJ4eWTfT08NlAXdagL467YY oUFN23HDM1GWe8drVGnOOUDouAY+iCHusyzlhEhrYuKcywzMrighTKsi9GlW0GEHM9 wKlScnftGTxxOXcq2dKrx+1hJ5gLyLTCIalALsQQ= Message-ID: <4F451986.3010808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:36:22 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC67C912D91A1D3BA8FF4024D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:36:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC67C912D91A1D3BA8FF4024D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/2012 15:54, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Jaime Kikpole wrote: >> I'm attempting to upgrade Request Tracker manually. (I know that >> there is a port, but I'd like to preserve my data, thus I'm doing this= >> "the old fashioned way." :) ) >> >> When I run the "make fixdeps" step described in the directions, it >> attempts to load ExtUtil::MakeMaker from CPAN -- even though its >> already installed. This wouldn't be so bad, but it actually hangs and= >> uses 100% of CPU time (according to "top") like its in an infinite >> loop. This is the output just before it hangs: > Your post makes me very happy to know I wasn't crazy: >=20 > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D918414 >=20 > This is a pain in the ass and I don't know if it's a FBSD CPAN problem > or a CPAN dependency problem but it does happen, and it's really > annoying. I don't have a fix but a workaround. It will always hang on > the same test, so just ^C and "look" into the module. remove the test > and go back to the cpan shell. It won't bother you again for the whole > CPAN session. >=20 Actually, the problem as highlighted in that Perlmonks article was with BSDPAN::ExtUtils::Packlist. A fix has been applied to the perl5.10, perl5.12 and perl5.14 ports. Anyone still using perl5.8 should take this as a broad hint that it might be time to upgrade... Cheers, Matthew=09 --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigC67C912D91A1D3BA8FF4024D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9FGY0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzv7wCgi76JhFpKPRu+UoLSXUDxG9uR iL4AoI+rvBz9Sl2UvBQ4ihfFJQ/8tqxk =vFmw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC67C912D91A1D3BA8FF4024D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 16:40:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DDF1065670 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13ED48FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1MGeVna029121 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:31 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1MGeVna029121 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1329928831; bh=PgBKs8XQL/I6sWsSpE0UZ4UFLKqBUPlWP0hRv/lJy8A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=jXAhWVISKi7RLLH9Fx11zO45CZyJS1xKlZTv7DDvlRxeKf/tWH18bfdv7TknJBivw uoGpMEyjJl8TJaMHjg5mvSM8GhHDDrteaHj6jWWu3ay1iS471aFa1L9e36InC1L+3c 7tyf2c1niXj0SLP7VXQhrisZBYk+3cSFjurCrwsg= Message-ID: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:31 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDC80522FA2256EC5F0F16E56" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDC80522FA2256EC5F0F16E56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/2012 16:35, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote:= >> Your post makes me very happy to know I wasn't crazy: >> >> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D918414 >> >> This is a pain in the ass and I don't know if it's a FBSD CPAN problem= >> or a CPAN dependency problem but it does happen, and it's really >> annoying. I don't have a fix but a workaround. It will always hang on >> the same test, so just ^C and "look" into the module. remove the test >> and go back to the cpan shell. It won't bother you again for the whole= >> CPAN session. >> >> -- >> Alejandro >=20 > This person says the problem is in BSDPAN::ExtUtils::Packlist - maybe > someone could help the maintainer solve this problem! It is _really_, > _really_ annoying. I sadly don't have the time right now and only deal > with problem from time to time, but if someone has the time it would > be really great to fix!!! >=20 > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D922671 >=20 It's already been fixed in 3 of the 4 perl ports: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D162151 The remaining port (lang/perl5.8) hasn't been modified in 7 months, and I believe it may well be deprecated and removed fairly soon. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDC80522FA2256EC5F0F16E56 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9FGn8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyuDgCgh2NPa1i1YLFGU04ESnYzfSTE 6j4AnRFx84EhHXGuawXUQrUK5Lq5+MeQ =+1cz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDC80522FA2256EC5F0F16E56-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 16:40:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94FA1065674 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A1D8FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbg15 with SMTP id g15so173260ghb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.50.159.161 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.159.161; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.50.159.161 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aimass@yabarana.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.159.161]) by 10.50.159.161 with SMTP id xd1mr27728788igb.15.1329928858739 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.159.161 with SMTP id xd1mr22450335igb.15.1329928858658; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:40:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F451986.3010808@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4F451986.3010808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:40:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2IC-9zI_9Ae9zgfwqTohBkbqC8k Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnPXYhapBA7YzHiEzw6O2e2leRnkI3gRRxU/K5Uw8FOhuMRxdzi9hvIMQ+mQmkYH7Cld5l9 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:59 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/02/2012 15:54, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Jaime Kikpole wrote: [...] > Actually, the problem as highlighted in that Perlmonks article was with > BSDPAN::ExtUtils::Packlist. =A0A fix has been applied to the perl5.10, > perl5.12 and perl5.14 ports. > I'm pretty sure I've seen this in 5.10 but I can't say for sure since I upgraded all my systems to 5.12. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen it in 5.12 though. The problem is that I got so used to it that I stopped paying attention to it and just fixed in on the spot, so I can't really say for sure the last time I encountered the problem. --=20 Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 16:55:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3E91065676 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844C18FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so350045iae.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.42.156.7 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.42.156.7; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 10.42.156.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aimass@yabarana.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.42.156.7]) by 10.42.156.7 with SMTP id x7mr33697716icw.56.1329929743957 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:55:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.156.7 with SMTP id x7mr26994196icw.56.1329929743872; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:55:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.77.5 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:55:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:55:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TtaM26-wwuGN6q2ZrMKKpLGrksM Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQma501YK/yS40BaK76Q2piOIPe1QK2KH/1Hps0o3d6gaadPcpVp4YmUpbxvVJXb0b74N9sY Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:55:44 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/02/2012 16:35, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> Your post makes me very happy to know I wasn't crazy: >>> >>> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D918414 >>> [...] > > It's already been fixed in 3 of the 4 perl ports: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D162151 > > The remaining port (lang/perl5.8) hasn't been modified in 7 months, and > I believe it may well be deprecated and removed fairly soon. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Matthew > Thanks for the detailed info Matthew - I guess it's time for me to stop whining about it ;-) It's just that I got excited to see someone else complaining about this problem and after almost being burned at the stake on PM ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 17:59:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B9B1065674 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.moore@holidaycompanies.com) Received: from hcmx.holidaycompanies.com (mail.holidaycompanies.com [209.98.45.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C6158FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from HCExchFE.holidaycompanies.com ([10.0.19.56]) by hcmx.holidaycompanies.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:47:36 -0600 Received: from HCEXCH01.holidaycompanies.com ([fe80::608e:6fbd:76f0:e317]) by HCExchFE.holidaycompanies.com ([fe80::74d0:eab3:ac1c:5789%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:47:36 -0600 From: Joe Moore To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Thread-Topic: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? Thread-Index: Aczxig4zWUgqzFXdQGmRaEZqx+ok3Q== Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:47:35 +0000 Message-ID: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.0.8.70] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2012 17:47:36.0541 (UTC) FILETIME=[1022F8D0:01CCF18A] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:59:38 -0000 I need to upgrade a server from 7.4 stable to 8.x stable. I running buildworld as I write this, and plan to build a GENERIC kernel. The root disk partition is 248 MB which was probably the auto default size = when the server was originally built. I remember having to do some scrambli= ng during the last update to free up enough space for a new kernel and I re= ally don't want that to happen again. I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've already = moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp. What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some executa= bles in /rescue. "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but that can't= be right. Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 18:15:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16477106566B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968278FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so346094wib.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of amvandemore@gmail.com designates 10.180.99.100 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.99.100; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of amvandemore@gmail.com designates 10.180.99.100 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=amvandemore@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=amvandemore@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.99.100]) by 10.180.99.100 with SMTP id ep4mr37807483wib.7.1329934547661 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:15:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WGdk71mtZ1DlH3kniAI0mgyd3Fjjdei/abymmjy4mr4=; b=SLjBfoo/4VdTS00DhwR65YymQZhHuQCgDjpbIcRWXQ/UC9Ty21FOK3yZtB6Wzi3dhR nek0oDcjFqQrbfdP9UJZug62NRceuqAp/sovG7UycAvuhM7L+JBk99pbGfmhjlN+yCoj 3LRtsAZ+QN/Q7tm91YZo5t8tJsMdPfXlNF3Do= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.99.100 with SMTP id ep4mr31319377wib.7.1329934547616; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.93.138 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:15:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> References: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:15:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Joe Moore Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:15:49 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Joe Moore wrote: > > I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've already > moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp. > > What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some > executables in /rescue. "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but > that can't be right. > I don't know the specific numbers of what you'll need but you can probably delete the *.symbol files(they aren't needed by default). i386 also produces smaller files/mem imprint than most equivalent amd64 bins. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 18:21:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09CB1065673 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.moore@holidaycompanies.com) Received: from hcmx.holidaycompanies.com (mail.holidaycompanies.com [209.98.45.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E7D38FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from HCExchFE.holidaycompanies.com ([10.0.19.56]) by hcmx.holidaycompanies.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:21:15 -0600 Received: from HCEXCH01.holidaycompanies.com ([fe80::608e:6fbd:76f0:e317]) by HCExchFE.holidaycompanies.com ([fe80::74d0:eab3:ac1c:5789%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:21:15 -0600 From: Joe Moore To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Thread-Topic: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? Thread-Index: AQHM8Y4BPnCuZ8pqokiJNh4I2X4cW5ZJOYZQ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:21:14 +0000 Message-ID: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E4C1@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> References: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.0.8.70] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2012 18:21:15.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3A5BA10:01CCF18E] Subject: RE: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:21:16 -0000 From: Adam Vande More [mailto:amvandemore@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:16 PM To: Joe Moore Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Joe Moore wrote: I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've already = moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp. What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some executa= bles in /rescue. "ls -l" =A0shows most of them being =A04MB each but that c= an't be right. I don't know the specific numbers of what you'll need but you can probably = delete the *.symbol files(they aren't needed by default).=A0 i386 also prod= uces smaller files/mem imprint than most equivalent amd64 bins. --=20 Adam Vande More Thanks Adam. I should have mentioned that I am running 32 bit i386. .jgm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 18:32:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F14D1065687 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D9B8FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70100A714AB for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32685 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2012 18:32:50 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 19888, pid: 241, t: 0.1453s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Feb 2012 18:32:50 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1370733C32; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9B73C39830; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:32:43 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Joe Moore References: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:32:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> (Joe Moore's message of "Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:47:35 +0000") Message-ID: <44hayizpkl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:32:52 -0000 Joe Moore writes: > What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some executables in /rescue. "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but that can't be right. Since they are all links to the same executable, you won't save anything unless you delete all of them, which would not be recommended. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 18:32:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA771065707 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEE78FC1B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1MIWuse019788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:32:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1MIWujJ085240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:32:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1MIWuxj085239; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:32:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:32:56 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Joe Moore Message-ID: <20120222183256.GB59682@dan.emsphone.com> References: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:32:57 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:32:59 -0000 In the last episode (Feb 22), Joe Moore said: > I need to upgrade a server from 7.4 stable to 8.x stable. > > I running buildworld as I write this, and plan to build a GENERIC kernel. > > The root disk partition is 248 MB which was probably the auto default size > when the server was originally built. I remember having to do some > scrambling during the last update to free up enough space for a new kernel > and I really don't want that to happen again. > > I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've already > moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and /tmp. I did a 5.5 -> 8.1 upgrade (no intermediate installs!) on a system with a 256MB root a few years ago and didn't have any problems. As Adam said, get rid of any /boot/*/*.symbol files. With symbols, a kernel directory could be 50-70 MB, but without, you're looking at only 5-15 MB. My root is only 90MB used, so there should be quite a bit of space you should be able to free up still. Try deleting web browser cache dirs or ccache trees in ~root. > What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some > executables in /rescue. "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but > that can't be right. All the files in /rescue is hardlinked to each other, so they only consume 4MB total. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 18:42:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA831065670 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.moore@holidaycompanies.com) Received: from hcmx.holidaycompanies.com (mail.holidaycompanies.com [209.98.45.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BEC18FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from HCExchFE.holidaycompanies.com ([10.0.19.56]) by hcmx.holidaycompanies.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:42:56 -0600 Received: from HCEXCH01.holidaycompanies.com ([fe80::608e:6fbd:76f0:e317]) by HCExchFE.holidaycompanies.com ([fe80::74d0:eab3:ac1c:5789%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:42:56 -0600 From: Joe Moore To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Thread-Topic: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? Thread-Index: Aczxig4zWUgqzFXdQGmRaEZqx+ok3QAOKF0AAAxXN0A= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:42:55 +0000 Message-ID: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E4F9@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> References: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> <20120222183256.GB59682@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20120222183256.GB59682@dan.emsphone.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.0.8.70] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2012 18:42:56.0416 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAEFB200:01CCF191] Subject: RE: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:42:57 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Dan Nelson [mailto:dnelson@allantgroup.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:33 PM To: Joe Moore Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? In the last episode (Feb 22), Joe Moore said: > I need to upgrade a server from 7.4 stable to 8.x stable. >=20 > I running buildworld as I write this, and plan to build a GENERIC kernel. >=20 > The root disk partition is 248 MB which was probably the auto default=20 > size when the server was originally built. I remember having to do=20 > some scrambling during the last update to free up enough space for a=20 > new kernel and I really don't want that to happen again. > > I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've=20 > already moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and = /tmp. I did a 5.5 -> 8.1 upgrade (no intermediate installs!) on a system with a 2= 56MB root a few years ago and didn't have any problems. As Adam said, get = rid of any /boot/*/*.symbol files. With symbols, a kernel directory could = be 50-70 MB, but without, you're looking at only 5-15 MB. My root is only = 90MB used, so there should be quite a bit of space you should be able to fr= ee up still. Try deleting web browser cache dirs or ccache trees in ~root. =20 > What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some=20 > executables in /rescue. "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but=20 > that can't be right. All the files in /rescue is hardlinked to each other, so they only consume = 4MB total. --=20 Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com I deleted /boot/kernel/*symbols and that freed up another 90+ MB. I've got 159MB free so I'm good to go. Thanks to all responders! ...jgm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 18:41:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F9D106566C; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DD98FC19; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so360989wer.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:41:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=1vPdWGZunQyQP0Zugokw95kcmmhu3azMnP8mS7R/Q3s=; b=Oh4cJFpCdxKX1fEJ2UezEi++ND1jRHNHVzH20X5+R6LRA1NH0xw+ikn7WNLZgu/kYB Ov99QddQ1enVcoITsBCq5j27V4fRqQU8A4uCY6Cs4hrA7/Sumjcz/dZJ24HfLdxQgigr Hlx/itWOUvD7bCapRlNQFENhI5GauGPLrctJ8= Received: by 10.180.102.35 with SMTP id fl3mr31162626wib.22.1329936083168; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ultra.dg ([41.48.27.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m8sm74721447wia.11.2012.02.22.10.41.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:44:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RC1; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1799756.gC4bI1mq1r"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202222044.15474.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:53:44 +0000 Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.4.rc4 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:41:25 -0000 --nextPart1799756.gC4bI1mq1r Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc4 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users). The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc4,1.tbz) = aa6a8af686c8df34d14ccfaa8d8f2f9e MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc4,1.txz) = 582b3b70cfb77008d753e676cdef52e2 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh --nextPart1799756.gC4bI1mq1r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk9FN38ACgkQUaaFgP9pFrK/kwCfZDEzQNDa6fDSgG7qlAYaLE8E E1wAoIuT68g4u1jAQpu/tdbKoDa31hsC =mGEw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1799756.gC4bI1mq1r-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 19:30:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF221065674 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923CD8FC1B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so571382iae.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.193.195 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.193.195; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.193.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jkikpole@cairodurham.org Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.193.195]) by 10.50.193.195 with SMTP id hq3mr28973403igc.18.1329939036010 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.193.195 with SMTP id hq3mr23490253igc.18.1329939035933; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.98.53.150] (mobile-166-137-138-097.mycingular.net. [166.137.138.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id em2sm14121781igc.0.2012.02.22.11.30.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:30:35 -0800 (PST) References: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jaime Kikpole Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:48:51 -0500 To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmNFWNyEvu/grn+Ut2jbEMKj4ATVBefr6eF57rNoUduauFVvBf0SRaqNlLsWGGuDtmUcmGu Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:30:36 -0000 On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > The remaining port (lang/perl5.8) hasn't been modified in 7 months, and > I believe it may well be deprecated and removed fairly soon. Good to know. What version comes with FreeBSD if you don't install a port o= f Perl? Is there some way to just "yank" the installed port and revert to t= he default installed version? I'm only running 5.8.9 because once upon a time I wanted to use a port (poss= ibly RT) that required it. So I installed it from the ports as a way to run= the latest version available at that time. Thanks, Jaime= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 19:34:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F062E1065670 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout020.mac.com (asmtpout020.mac.com [17.148.16.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65178FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:34:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by asmtp020.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LZT00CQF7PR0640@asmtp020.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:34:39 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7361,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-22_05:2012-02-21, 2012-02-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1202220200 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:34:38 -0800 Message-id: <1DDE63D6-027F-4050-884F-4A5B1AF09195@mac.com> References: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> To: Jaime Kikpole X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:34:40 -0000 On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> The remaining port (lang/perl5.8) hasn't been modified in 7 months, and >> I believe it may well be deprecated and removed fairly soon. > > Good to know. What version comes with FreeBSD if you don't install a port of Perl? None. > Is there some way to just "yank" the installed port and revert to the default installed version? You can uninstall the port, yes. If you do, there wouldn't be any perl installed. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 19:43:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBD8106566B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE168FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281705081D for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:43:41 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4F44E576.5000006@ifdnrg.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:43:41 -0800 Message-ID: <27398.1329939821@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:43:42 -0000 In message <4F44E576.5000006@ifdnrg.com>, Paul Macdonald wrote: >On 21/02/2012 22:33, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely acts >> like an SMTP server. However it appears to me that it only accepts e-mail >> for one very specific email address,<...@example.com>, where the '...' >> part is actually a long (unique?) string of letter and numbers that I found >> on one of the config printout pages that I generated when I was installing >> this thing. I have no idea what this is all about. I successfully sent >> a short test e-mail to that address, manually typing in all of the necessary >> SMTP commands (via telnet to port 25) and nothing whatsoever happened. I ha >d >> kind-of been expecting that what I sent (via SMTP) would be printed, but it >> just didn't happen. Maybe I need to sent it a MIME-encoded message instead >(?) >... >I doubt you can email it print jobs... Well, I can't think of any other reason why the printer would be running an SMTP _server_. I mean it isn't as if it is going to be handling outgoing e-mail for anybody. Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 20:21:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6971065673 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C058FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qaea17 with SMTP id a17so735453qae.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:20:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=92wh+tftSB+Fu7tnRBE8hmZsrCvvVNPx+PaeGpd8fXY=; b=obaWEfH0Q96FyeEtP7HNySEdXxiBVG3xb05APNuA9vxhGuj6qJYd0Cf1vUTRwKb/kn gBh+meRFGPleuz420+yIyzxGYnhlPR8zjQy7DPmdZQSTLhgEWxMjGUzM5sXnvjXuW3ld wrylNzW6+cM0AkZrs36vLYk96Vpqn/OFmURsE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.135.10 with SMTP id l10mr20352588qct.14.1329942059280; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.24.81 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:20:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:20:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: Omer Faruk SEN To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:21:00 -0000 Hi, I am trying to install FreeBSD 8.3-BETA1 to a system with ssd disk recognized as ad6. At fixit mode i can dd device but at installer (sysinstall) when I configured disk and using "w" installer is unable to format devices stating that "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad6s1b in dev. The creation of file systems will be aborted" any suggestion on what may be the reason for that or is it a bug on installer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 20:23:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A684106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F98FC1F for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1MKNWCc079599; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:23:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q1MKNWL4079596; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:23:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:23:32 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <27398.1329939821@tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <27398.1329939821@tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:23:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:23:33 -0000 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <4F44E576.5000006@ifdnrg.com>, > Paul Macdonald wrote: > >> On 21/02/2012 22:33, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>> Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely acts >>> like an SMTP server. However it appears to me that it only accepts e-mail >>> for one very specific email address,<...@example.com>, where the '...' >>> part is actually a long (unique?) string of letter and numbers that I found >>> on one of the config printout pages that I generated when I was installing >>> this thing. I have no idea what this is all about. I successfully sent >>> a short test e-mail to that address, manually typing in all of the necessary >>> SMTP commands (via telnet to port 25) and nothing whatsoever happened. I ha >> d >>> kind-of been expecting that what I sent (via SMTP) would be printed, but it >>> just didn't happen. Maybe I need to sent it a MIME-encoded message instead >> (?) >> ... >> I doubt you can email it print jobs... > > Well, I can't think of any other reason why the printer would be running > an SMTP _server_. I mean it isn't as if it is going to be handling > outgoing e-mail for anybody. Scan to email would use it. Possibly also it could email supplies status messages also, even to an arbitrary non-local address. "Dear owner, hope your vacation is going well. Just wanted to remind you I'm low on yellow toner. Also, I think I heard a noise downstairs. It's probably nothing." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 20:24:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9071065675 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9278FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1MKOrjx072131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:24:53 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1MKOrjx072131 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q1MKOrjx072131; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4F454F0E.9000403@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:24:46 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaime Kikpole References: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig247545FBAC6DC1739A83453F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:24:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig247545FBAC6DC1739A83453F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/2012 18:48, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > Good to know. What version comes with FreeBSD if you don't install a > port of Perl? Is there some way to just "yank" the installed port and > revert to the default installed version? Umm.... there isn't perl bundled with the system now. That was removed many years ago. You're expected to install perl from ports if you want it on your system. The default version that the ports would install as a dependency (assuming you had done nothing to select a different one) or that you would get by installing from packages is perl-5.12.4 at the moment. To upgrade to a different version, you need to do something like this: # portmaster -o lang/perl5.12 perl-5.8.9_7 # portmaster -R -r perl-5.14.2_1 You have to rebuild / reinstall all perl modules and everything that embeds perl or that uses perl at run-time when going up such a jump in versions -- the simple moving things around trick using perl-after-upgrade is not sufficient here. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig247545FBAC6DC1739A83453F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9FTxUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwBKACgj7VJSB6h5C6If2WRX5KJBoXO VgoAnjMOvWxZfIgKrK7v104N+dh+nlEq =XraP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig247545FBAC6DC1739A83453F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 20:27:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDDD1065670; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30218FC0A; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1MKROS0079648; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:27:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q1MKROOP079645; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:27:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:27:24 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Omer Faruk SEN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:27:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Subject: Re: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:27:25 -0000 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > I am trying to install FreeBSD 8.3-BETA1 to a system with ssd disk > recognized as ad6. At fixit mode i can dd device but at installer > (sysinstall) when I configured disk and using "w" installer is unable to > format devices stating that > > "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad6s1b in dev. The creation of file > systems will be aborted" > > any suggestion on what may be the reason for that or is it a bug on > installer Using "W"rite is one of the causes for that. Don't Write, just choose Quit after making selections. (There are other causes, like old partitioning information on the disk. Removing that with gpart destroy or just dd-ing zeros over it is the cure in that case.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 20:36:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB4F106566C for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from pop.cape.com (pop.cape.com [209.213.66.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF77E8FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.cape.com (pop.cape.com [127.0.0.1]) by pop.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7084C1890BE6; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:16:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209.213.65.17 (SquirrelMail authenticated user crtb) by webmail.cape.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:16:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <13844.209.213.65.17.1329941763.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:16:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Chuck Bacon" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Chuck Bacon Subject: where is linux-f10-flashplugin ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:36:02 -0000 Looks like FreeBSD mirrors have been hacked; more than one has an empty pub/FreeBSD directory, and those which have a ports/distfiles directory don't have an linux directory at all. I've faithfully followed the FreeBSD handbook for 8.2, and it says the last port is that one. Help, please? Chuck Bacon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 20:56:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B231065670 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCC88FC18 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk (vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk [10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1MKuI2C073040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:56:19 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4F455672.2030202@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:56:18 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Bacon References: <13844.209.213.65.17.1329941763.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> In-Reply-To: <13844.209.213.65.17.1329941763.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where is linux-f10-flashplugin ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:56:27 -0000 On 22/02/2012 20:16, Chuck Bacon wrote: > Looks like FreeBSD mirrors have been hacked; more than one has an empty > pub/FreeBSD directory, and those which have a ports/distfiles directory > don't have an linux directory at all. I've faithfully followed the > FreeBSD handbook for 8.2, and it says the last port is that one. Help, > please? > Chuck Bacon from the makefile MASTER_SITES= http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/${PORTVERSION:C/r/\./}/:plugin \ ftp://ftp.ipt.ru/pub/download/ but for me "cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11; make fetch" worked. vince > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 21:36:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152341065673 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w3@langhans.com.pl) Received: from mail.langhans.com.pl (host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl [194.126.238.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF41C8FC1B for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.langhans.com.pl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F393234EBB7; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:36:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:36:00 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120222213600.GA1293@manul.langhans.com.pl> References: <20120221223326.9EAE51065814@hub.freebsd.org> <20120222140412.GA10673@manul.langhans.com.pl> <20120222155836.c8766cc6.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120222155836.c8766cc6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: Installation troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:36:02 -0000 Thanks for all the hints - now I have some point to go on. First I try to use 8.2 from the memstick. If that fails I get such a little adapter and install it from a normal PC (using the CD). I'll let you know after my homework is done. Good to know that FreeBSD has some neutral kernel and chooses all drivers when it boots. Late on! herb langhans From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 22:33:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27CC1065676 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3798FC23 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbg15 with SMTP id g15so410556ghb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 10.236.184.196 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.184.196; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 10.236.184.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jerry@seibercom.net Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.184.196]) by 10.236.184.196 with SMTP id s44mr47907311yhm.9.1329949985765 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.184.196 with SMTP id s44mr37635999yhm.9.1329949985618; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a47sm66151074yhj.12.2012.02.22.14.33.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3TtYP85Nk1z2CG47 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:33:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:33:00 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120222173300.0071f734@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4F44293E.9080003@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F441E38.5090406@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120222001913.284b65c6.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F44293E.9080003@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQloOGOBcQh+RgmNy/UKmcI20YQ7f/3cz4rMXMJceU53gigoNKzHu42C22NYdeMxGXXlfnQz Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:33:06 -0000 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000 Da Rock articulated: > The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I > was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by > playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it > suspended! Grr! That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing, enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to RTFM. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 23:27:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F32106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E556C8FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0Laj-0002d7-Sp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:27:21 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:27:21 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:27:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:27:14 -0500 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:27:26 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > >> I am trying to install FreeBSD 8.3-BETA1 to a system with ssd disk >> recognized as ad6. At fixit mode i can dd device but at installer >> (sysinstall) when I configured disk and using "w" installer is unable to >> format devices stating that >> >> "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad6s1b in dev. The creation of file >> systems will be aborted" >> >> any suggestion on what may be the reason for that or is it a bug on >> installer > > Using "W"rite is one of the causes for that. Don't Write, just choose > Quit after making selections. > > (There are other causes, like old partitioning information on the disk. > Removing that with gpart destroy or just dd-ing zeros over it is the > cure in that case.) If you need to clear the old MBR the "old way", use a LiveFS or Fixit shell and do this (as root): sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 where x equals your drive number. This will zero out any old MBR. A time or two when I've seen this error this fixed it up and the install proceeds as normal. As Warren said before, don't use the "W", just Q and sysinstall will queue and issue all the commands at a later point. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 23:35:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69944106564A for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B238FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0Lim-0008Lt-Lo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:35:40 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:35:40 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:35:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:35:33 -0500 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <7DC5CF25DDD70D4A845DDC2F96E116B2A0E467@hcexch01.holidaycompanies.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: How much space do I need on "/" for a 7.4 to 8 stable upgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:35:43 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Joe Moore > wrote: > >> >> I have 65MB of free space on "/". Is that going to be enough? I've >> already moved tftpboot to /usr, cleaned out /root, /boot/kernel.old, and >> /tmp. >> >> What else could I clean out if I need more space? I'm thinking some >> executables in /rescue. "ls -l" shows most of them being 4MB each but >> that can't be right. >> > > I don't know the specific numbers of what you'll need but you can probably > delete the *.symbol files(they aren't needed by default). i386 also > produces smaller files/mem imprint than most equivalent amd64 bins. > I did this and the only i386 box I have left uses 96MB on / while the amd64 ones hover around 105MB, give or take a few. I believe adding WITHOUT_PROFILE= true to /etc/src.conf prevents them from being built/installed in subsequent builds. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 00:29:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94681065674 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4C08FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 34CAAE8081D; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:29:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:29:41 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20120223002933.GA29699@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Aha, just thought of a solution.... Games: src for gtk! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:29:43 -0000 guys, as some of you know i have been learning gtk by actually doing and by asking help. i need help now with the range slider widgets. i need to have the user select at least four things rat range from 1 to 100. i have found at updated one gtk v 1.2 demo to at least v 2.0. i would still like to see more examples. i have already found one game that got me on the right page for one thing. all that's left is my Options and File. The file asks whether to "Save" things to disk or two quit. the options sets things like "words-per-minute",pitch, and amplitude or volume.... does anybody know of any game that uses gtk in C that shows how to do multiple ranges? of course, the port does have to be a game, but that seems most likely. thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 02:02:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D27C1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AF28FC15 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5F15C28 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:15:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB4365C22 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:15:57 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F459D10.7030506@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:57:36 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F441E38.5090406@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120222001913.284b65c6.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F44293E.9080003@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120222173300.0071f734@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120222173300.0071f734@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:02:32 -0000 On 02/23/12 08:33, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000 > Da Rock articulated: > >> The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I >> was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by >> playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it >> suspended! Grr! > That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing, > enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to > RTFM. Yes it is configurable, especially in FBSD, which is exactly my point to the OP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 02:12:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFBE1065677 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8388FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1D05C28 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:26:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E0E75C22 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:26:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F459F79.9090402@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:07:53 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27398.1329939821@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Info and questions about Brother[tm] multifunction machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:12:49 -0000 On 02/23/12 06:23, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> >> In message <4F44E576.5000006@ifdnrg.com>, >> Paul Macdonald wrote: >> >>> On 21/02/2012 22:33, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>>> Port 25 is apparently implementing _something_ that sort-of vaguely >>>> acts >>>> like an SMTP server. However it appears to me that it only accepts >>>> e-mail >>>> for one very specific email address,<...@example.com>, where the '...' >>>> part is actually a long (unique?) string of letter and numbers that >>>> I found >>>> on one of the config printout pages that I generated when I was >>>> installing >>>> this thing. I have no idea what this is all about. I successfully >>>> sent >>>> a short test e-mail to that address, manually typing in all of the >>>> necessary >>>> SMTP commands (via telnet to port 25) and nothing whatsoever >>>> happened. I ha >>> d >>>> kind-of been expecting that what I sent (via SMTP) would be >>>> printed, but it >>>> just didn't happen. Maybe I need to sent it a MIME-encoded message >>>> instead >>> (?) >>> ... >>> I doubt you can email it print jobs... >> >> Well, I can't think of any other reason why the printer would be running >> an SMTP _server_. I mean it isn't as if it is going to be handling >> outgoing e-mail for anybody. > > Scan to email would use it. Possibly also it could email supplies > status messages also, even to an arbitrary non-local address. "Dear > owner, hope your vacation is going well. Just wanted to remind you > I'm low on yellow toner. Also, I think I heard a noise downstairs. > It's probably nothing." Scanning to email and status updates don't require a server as such, and in the interests of security they generally don't. What I have noted before (despite my brainfart on 9100, excuse me; I was sure I had known it by another name) is that IF the machine is multifunction and can fax, then it would need a smtp server to email to fax. To do this it needs to _receive_ email, not just send. There is usually a driver utility that knows how to speak to it though, but it should be easy to hack. As evidence I checked my printer and it can send email status messages and has no smtp server. Telnet is normal (it is usually secured and used by a qualified technician), and is used to configure other options and nvram settings that may not be available on the menu. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 04:01:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2581065675 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE938FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5545C28 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:15:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E4FB5C22 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:14:59 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F45B8F6.6070400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:56:38 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120220203515.185b038d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F42E911.1010202@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120221164410.447b4676.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F441E38.5090406@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120222001913.284b65c6.freebsd@edvax.de> <4F44293E.9080003@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120222173300.0071f734@scorpio> <4F459D10.7030506@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F459D10.7030506@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:01:34 -0000 On 02/23/12 11:57, Da Rock wrote: > On 02/23/12 08:33, Jerry wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:31:10 +1000 >> Da Rock articulated: >> >>> The most annoying for me was when they're running Win7 (blah!) and I >>> was trying to burn a cd _and_ keep the kids from interrupting by >>> playing on the keyboard. I closed the lid like I do with FBSD and it >>> suspended! Grr! >> That behavior is totally configurable. You can change it to do nothing, >> enter hibernation, activate the screen saver, etc. You just have to >> RTFM. > Yes it is configurable, especially in FBSD, which is exactly my point > to the OP. Oh, and I might add: what manual? 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(v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1454516861.20120223091945@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: VERY slow performance on igb+FreeBSD8.2+mpd5.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:19:49 -0000 #uname FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #2 r231881: Thu Feb 23 00:53:28 UTC 2012 è Version 5.6 (root@ 10:03 20-Feb-2012) http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790445113.png try to reconnect to mpd 10-20times and you get next: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790454801.png mpd has no any sessions except this one. net.graph.recvspace=524288 net.graph.maxdgram=524288 net.inet.ip.dummynet.io_fast=1 net.inet.ip.dummynet.pipe_slot_limit=1000 dev.igb.0.rx_processing_limit=4096 dev.igb.1.rx_processing_limit=4096 dev.igb.2.rx_processing_limit=4096 dev.igb.3.rx_processing_limit=4096 net.route.netisr_maxqlen=4096 hw.igb.rxd=4096 hw.igb.txd=4096 hw.igb.max_interrupt_rate=32000 net.isr.defaultqlimit=4096 net.link.ifqmaxlen=10240 net.graph.maxdata=32768 net.graph.maxalloc=32768 net.inet.tcp.tcbhashsize=4096 # tcb hash size net.inet.tcp.syncache.hashsize=1024 # syncache hash size net.inet.tcp.syncache.bucketlimit=100 # syncache bucket limit net.isr.bindthreads=0 # do not bind threads to CPUs net.isr.direct=0 # interrupt handling via multiple CPU net.isr.direct_force=0 # " net.isr.maxthreads=4 # Max number of threads for NIC IRQ balancing (4 cores in box) vmstat -z | grep Gra ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS FAILURES NetGraph items: 72, 32770, 0, 377, 143887, 0 NetGraph data items: 72, 32770, 0, 435, 241884, 0 -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 10:36:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DE8106566C; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.64.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8308FC12; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1NAab6h019606; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:36:37 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1NAabsc019605; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:36:37 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:36:37 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: =?koi8-r?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= Message-ID: <20120223103637.GS92625@FreeBSD.org> References: <376001325.20120220220651@yandex.ru> <323151470.20120221225558@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <323151470.20120221225558@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Ivan Ivanyuk Subject: Re: deleting an alias from interface cause the static route to be deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:36:39 -0000 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:55:58PM +0200, ëÏÎØËÏ× å×ÇÅÎÉÊ wrote: ë> >> vlan74: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ë> >> š š š šoptions=3 ë> >> š š š šether f4:6d:04:7c:7b:d3 ë> >> š š š šinet6 fe80::f66d:4ff:fe7c:7bd3%vlan74 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xd ë> >> š š š šinet 10.1.26.1 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 ë> >> š š š šinet 10.1.26.3 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 10.1.27.255 ë> >> š š š šnd6 options=29 ë> >> š š š šmedia: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) ë> >> š š š šstatus: active ë> >> š š š švlan: 74 parent interface: re0 ë> >> ë> >> ifconfig vlan74 delete 10.1.26.1 ë> >> ë> >> will delete these static routes from route table: ë> >> ë> >> 10.3.0.1 š š š š š 10.1.26.2 š š š š šUGHS š š š š8 š š š367 vlan74 ë> >> 10.1.6.0/23 š š š š10.1.26.2 š š š š šUGS š š š 275 š 166969 vlan74 ë> >> ë> >> Does this a bug? It is. The problem is that our routing table support only a single route for a prefix (yep, there is RADIX_MPATH, but it serves other needs). Thus, every time we add or delete a prefix we need to do a lot of sanity checking: running through interfaces list, seek for other origin for this prefix, etc. All suggested patches do this, and from my viewpoint these are crutches. I'd prefer to have something like this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2012-February/031468.html -- Totus tuus, Glebius. 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A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:53:45 -0000 Hi, My name is Roy Mathew. I am new to FreeBSD. I had a look at the history of your operating system. I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the unnecessary picture right in front of your website. The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that you should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in your website. Please visit http://www.freebsd.org/ to see the logo and the picture, both of which I strongly recommend that you remove. I am highly educated and qualified. From Roy Mathew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 13:34:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2230106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4912C8FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10so557114eaa.13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 10.213.108.83 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.213.108.83; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 10.213.108.83 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=odhiambo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=odhiambo@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.213.108.83]) by 10.213.108.83 with SMTP id e19mr458812ebp.46.1330004093301 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:34:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=XzY+sqRqX5EDHP9Pl9v5GmEDfPcX7HDEdCp83EveLls=; b=dvORA3zgTZ7cW6nuqfFSFA9gv493qqA/XSGg7WEGZlAD2UEXVV3IkPIb6dfTj+Xm28 3fDDWmCFnd5sRFzlhOJmRGzbW0nY4YwUo6W4R+zm0p9moZiQT1/uTCRmMUUQaGt16bet cnaiqfl5JOMayVocQlengpXF2UPzJRPSNFH5U= Received: by 10.213.108.83 with SMTP id e19mr361113ebp.46.1330004093172; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:34:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.108.76 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:34:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:34:12 +0300 Message-ID: To: Al Hadith Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174be7a285fdc504b9a1b57f X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:34:54 -0000 --0015174be7a285fdc504b9a1b57f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2012/2/23 Al Hadith > Hi, > > My name is Roy Mathew. I am new to FreeBSD. I had a look at the history of > your operating system. > > I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the > unnecessary picture right in front of your website. > > The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big > companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that you > should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in your > website. > > Please visit http://www.freebsd.org/ to see the logo and the picture, both > of which I strongly recommend that you remove. > > I am highly educated and qualified. > > Hi Al Hadith (alias Roy Mathew), What is it in particular that you don't like about the logo and the picture? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. 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Please take care your Client is configured correctly. Greetings Michelle. X-Disclaimer-DE: Eine weitere Verwendung oder die Veroeffentlichung dieser Mail oder dieser Mailadresse ist nur mit der Einwilligung des Autors gestattet. X-Disclaimer-EN: What are you looking here? X-Disclaimer-FR: Quest ce tu regarder ici? Organization: Tamay Dogan Network X-Operating-System: Linux work1 2.6.32-5-686 X-Homepage: http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:37:48 -0000 This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages. --=_storage000-28087-1330003145-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Al Hadith, > I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the > unnecessary picture right in front of your website. What are you talking about? The little Devil ist the Maskot of BSD and will never changed! > The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big > companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that you > should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in your websi= te. Are you jokeing? > I am highly educated and qualified. I can't believe! > From > Roy Mathew Hmmm, why does your Name in the E-Mail differ from your signature? You can not be serious! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack --=20 ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ###################### Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux Internet Service Provider, Cloud Computing itsystems@tdnet Jabber linux4michelle@jabber.ccc.de Owner Michelle Konzack Gewerbe Strasse 3 Tel office: +49-176-86004575 77694 Kehl Tel mobil: +49-177-9351947 Germany Tel mobil: +33-6-61925193 (France) USt-ID: DE 278 049 239 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ --=_storage000-28087-1330003145-0001-2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.pgp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFPRj5WC0FPBMSS+BIRArrWAJ4/aRBfAABebR4csKVW8AB5bMMeWwCdFGKF Z4Xrm7NrFT2Zz1RDKsOCpxo= =diqQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_storage000-28087-1330003145-0001-2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 13:51:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DBD1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from akirchhoff135014@comcast.net) Received: from omr3.networksolutionsemail.com (omr3.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F718FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr7 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr3.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id q1NDONsC017222 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:24:23 -0500 Authentication-Results: cm-omr7 smtp.user=adamk@mckella280.com; auth=pass (CRAM-MD5) X-Authenticated-UID: adamk@mckella280.com Received: from [50.78.52.49] ([50.78.52.49:33654] helo=[192.168.0.35]) by cm-omr7 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 0D/D5-06986-70E364F4; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:24:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4F463E09.7060508@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:24:25 -0500 From: Adam K Kirchhoff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120131 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: DRI for Radeon HD5450 on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:51:51 -0000 > Dear list, > > I own a radeon HD5450 and I would like to know how well it is supported > by freeBSD 9, in partocular DRI and 3D accelaeration. > > I have a fresh 9.0/amd64 on my machine and Xorg fails to initialise the > DRI. It says (from Xorg-0.log): > > (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable > (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable > (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so > (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0 > (II) RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 338 x 270 > > As the last line of the snippet displays it, I use radeon(4x) as driver. > > I used the page > > http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/troubleshooting.html > > to try to diagnose the problem and it seems that none of the driver agp > radeondrm and drm is able to initaialize correctly. > > Can you enable DRI for HD5450 on FreeBSD 9.0 ? > Do you have some useful documentation to show me? > > In any of these cases, I would say ``thanks!'' > -- > Best regards, > Michael Neither 2D nor 3D acceleration are supported on any HD5xxx or higher GPU. Nor will they be supported till radeon KMS is implemented. Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 14:11:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E19E106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ADE8FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1NEBin5009936 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:45 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4F464920.2030308@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:44 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:47 -0000 DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! Not only is "Al Hadith" the Islamic term for the teachings and acts of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, but the To: field had 388 other addresses in it. It's a nasty troll. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 14:37:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EAE1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53D78FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1NEbYKa096437; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:37:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F464F15.3050402@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:37:09 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Hadith , FreeBSD Mailing List References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:37:39 -0000 2012-02-23 13:29, Al Hadith skrev: > I am highly educated and qualified. Not really, no. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 15:14:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC30106567A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F4F8FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90606544; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ACCFB8B40; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:54:54 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Al Hadith References: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:54:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Al Hadith's message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:29:12 +0400") Message-ID: <86zkc98url.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:14:48 -0000 Al Hadith writes: > I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the > unnecessary picture right in front of your website. >=20=20 > The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big > companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that > you should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in > your website. I'm sorry you feel that way. There are plenty of other operating systems with more palatable mascots and logos; perhaps you will be happier with one of those than with FreeBSD. I wish you all the best. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 16:49:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E021065673 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipluta@wp.pl) Received: from mx4.wp.pl (mx4.wp.pl [212.77.101.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D12B8FC15 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 6670 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2012 17:22:32 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wp.pl; s=1024a; t=1330014152; bh=FVVy/mHDdLdgrD6s0WEbsDJX76AiI7JdKDSP6VKSuuk=; h=From:To:CC:Subject; b=SI/FFXR6vKdMo+fvpoaVUZAS7OV/ijzYZFm4bCzqbu9Hsgu53VIGNkCPr55k88Q29 taUfeSltWEFcGqAhsuoI62is/RLqLsgYy7qEy3VpWx6qYwRcWOcdIcwa8nAkOflDU9 /DyIKGIiOgDP6RNcDHU7F0Qa+PAXOZf7elTnfFx0= Received: from dmz40.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [10.0.0.65]) (ipluta@[83.24.81.40]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 23 Feb 2012 17:22:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4F4667BF.9030507@wp.pl> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:22:23 +0100 From: Ireneusz Pluta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaime Kikpole References: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO 0000000 [kcNE] Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:49:14 -0000 W dniu 2012-02-22 19:48, Jaime Kikpole pisze: > Is there some way to just "yank" the installed port and revert to the default installed version? The perl itself even from ports is OK, the BSDPAN part is the problem. If you only want a (temporary) solution for the subject problem, you may ( possibly s/5.8.8/5.8.9/ for your case ): mv /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN.bad so perl falls with its @INC to the original ExtUtils::, because: $ perl -e 'print join "\n", @INC' /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 and $ find /usr/local/lib/perl5 | grep ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm But then you loose what /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm says: DESCRIPTION BSDPAN is the collection of modules that provides tighter than ever integration of Perl into BSD Unix. Currently, BSDPAN does the following: o makes p5− FreeBSD ports PREFIXâ€clean; o registers Perl modules with FreeBSD package database. BSDPAN achieves this by overriding certain functionality of the core Perl modules, ExtUtils::MM_Unix, and ExtUtils::Packlist. BSDPAN module itself just provides useful helper functions for the rest of the modules in BSDPAN collection. You soon should be upgrading to 5.14.x (mee to :-), so do you care? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 17:06:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7C81065670 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from cc-smtpout3.netcologne.de (cc-smtpout3.netcologne.de [IPv6:2001:4dd0:100:1062:25:2:0:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C994B8FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cc-smtpin1.netcologne.de (cc-smtpin1.netcologne.de [89.1.8.201]) by cc-smtpout3.netcologne.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9071112952; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:06:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from llea.celt.neu (xdsl-89-0-157-88.netcologne.de [89.0.157.88]) by cc-smtpin1.netcologne.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 67E0D11DBE; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:06:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F46721B.9090107@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:06:35 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111228 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam K Kirchhoff References: <4F463E09.7060508@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4F463E09.7060508@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DRI for Radeon HD5450 on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:06:38 -0000 Hi Adam, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > Neither 2D nor 3D acceleration are supported on any HD5xxx or higher > GPU. Nor will they be supported till radeon KMS is implemented. Thank you for pointing this out… it is actually stated on the relevant wiki page http://wiki.freebsd.org/DriDrivers but I overlooked this many times. Luckily, I also have an ATI Radeon HD 4250, that works like a charm! -- Regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 17:09:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD2A106566B for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward9.mail.yandex.net (forward9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683E18FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (smtp8.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.54]) by forward9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 60F06CE0500 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:09:18 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330016958; bh=7DJKUxQs3m5h7cSIogSA2CTCT9iao7s6zHuIjupYKWI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wXKs54ToBHyATf4HiT0za21mRNZ6yma3x5Q3HCaTEjvyg6IWfihwsUPGcZm11UWsO l/Yv2m29l/dNXiwgEZ21vDjoD6M9gKfEnSCGlYTl2Qspds72qyYwi5N1mCfLMqRmCY Djsloeqo3Gc8VZqKKMuy3hT441KJJliKKmQjsgbc= Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3F8091B60514; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:09:18 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330016958; bh=7DJKUxQs3m5h7cSIogSA2CTCT9iao7s6zHuIjupYKWI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wXKs54ToBHyATf4HiT0za21mRNZ6yma3x5Q3HCaTEjvyg6IWfihwsUPGcZm11UWsO l/Yv2m29l/dNXiwgEZ21vDjoD6M9gKfEnSCGlYTl2Qspds72qyYwi5N1mCfLMqRmCY Djsloeqo3Gc8VZqKKMuy3hT441KJJliKKmQjsgbc= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 9Heqj9p5-9HeeEe0p; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:09:18 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:09:17 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1002485010.20120223190917@yandex.ru> To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= In-Reply-To: <1454516861.20120223091945@yandex.ru> References: <1454516861.20120223091945@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VERY slow performance on igb+FreeBSD8.2+mpd5.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:09:21 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Êîíüêîâ. Âû ïèñàëè 23 ôåâðàëÿ 2012 ã., 9:19:45: ÊÅ> #uname FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #2 r231881: Thu Feb 23 00:53:28 UTC 2012 ÊÅ> è Version 5.6 (root@ 10:03 20-Feb-2012) ÊÅ> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790445113.png ÊÅ> try to reconnect to mpd 10-20times and you get next: ÊÅ> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790454801.png ÊÅ> mpd has no any sessions except this one. ÊÅ> net.graph.recvspace=524288 ÊÅ> net.graph.maxdgram=524288 ÊÅ> net.inet.ip.dummynet.io_fast=1 ÊÅ> net.inet.ip.dummynet.pipe_slot_limit=1000 ÊÅ> dev.igb.0.rx_processing_limit=4096 ÊÅ> dev.igb.1.rx_processing_limit=4096 ÊÅ> dev.igb.2.rx_processing_limit=4096 ÊÅ> dev.igb.3.rx_processing_limit=4096 ÊÅ> net.route.netisr_maxqlen=4096 ÊÅ> hw.igb.rxd=4096 ÊÅ> hw.igb.txd=4096 ÊÅ> hw.igb.max_interrupt_rate=32000 ÊÅ> net.isr.defaultqlimit=4096 ÊÅ> net.link.ifqmaxlen=10240 ÊÅ> net.graph.maxdata=32768 ÊÅ> net.graph.maxalloc=32768 ÊÅ> net.inet.tcp.tcbhashsize=4096 # tcb hash size ÊÅ> net.inet.tcp.syncache.hashsize=1024 # syncache hash size ÊÅ> net.inet.tcp.syncache.bucketlimit=100 # syncache bucket limit ÊÅ> net.isr.bindthreads=0 # do not bind threads to CPUs ÊÅ> net.isr.direct=0 # interrupt handling via multiple CPU ÊÅ> net.isr.direct_force=0 # " ÊÅ> net.isr.maxthreads=4 # Max number of threads for ÊÅ> NIC IRQ balancing (4 cores in box) ÊÅ> vmstat -z | grep Gra ÊÅ> ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS FAILURES ÊÅ> NetGraph items: 72, 32770, 0, 377, 143887, 0 ÊÅ> NetGraph data items: 72, 32770, 0, 435, 241884, 0 Can any one help to debug that problem? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 17:47:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5509210656FA; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ache@vniz.net) Received: from vniz.net (vniz.net [194.87.13.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805BC8FC24; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vniz.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1NHRAHT092993; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:10 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from ache@vniz.net) Received: (from ache@localhost) by localhost (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1NHR9uD092992; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:09 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Al Hadith Message-ID: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Al Hadith , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ?Ariff Abdullah , ?Thomas Abthorpe , Eitan Adler , ?Shunsuke Akiyama , Doug Ambrisko , ?Shaun Amott , Henrik Brix Andersen , ?Jonathan Anderson , Matthias Andree , ?Will Andrews , ?Dimitry Andric , ?Marcus von Appen , ?Marcelo Araujo , ?Mathieu Arnold , ?Gavin Atkinson , "?Joseph S. 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Peron" , ?Robert Watson , ?Stacey Son , ?Kirk McKusick , ?Max Khon , Yi-Jheng Lin , ?Shteryana Shopova , ?Ulrich Sp?rlein , ?Beat G?tzi , ?Maxim Sobolev , ?Martin Matuska , "?Wojciech A. Koszek" , ?Philippe Charnier , ?Philippe Audeoud , ?Warner Losh Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:47:32 -0000 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 04:29:12PM +0400, Al Hadith wrote: > > I am highly educated and qualified. Thanks for clarification. Since you are so intelligent, there is no sense mocking you. You got us. We are Shaitan worshippers. Our Symbol intentionally looks so childish to bring innocent souls to the Evil side. Never underestimate the power of the Symbol! 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[98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id va6sm2879429igc.4.2012.02.23.10.18.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:18:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F4682D9.5070404@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:18:01 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Hadith References: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> In-Reply-To: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:18:08 -0000 On 2/23/2012 11:27 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > there is no sense mocking you. > You got us. We are Shaitan worshippers. > Our Symbol intentionally looks so childish to bring innocent souls to the > Evil side. > Never underestimate the power of the Shaitan or seitan? To the original poster, because of FreeBeastie's licensing, you're free to fork it(much like the trident) and change to logo to a group of imams. Be sure to change all references of daemons in the source code to something else. 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=?windows-1252?Q?=95Beat_G=E4tzi?= Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:34:16 -0000 2012/2/23 Al Hadith : > Hi, > > My name is Roy Mathew. I am new to FreeBSD. I had a look at the history o= f > your operating system. > > I suggest to=A0everyone of=A0you that you recommend to change/replace the > unnecessary picture right in front of your website. > > The reasons you all have done hard-work and has become successful (big > companies use ur project). In that case, this is not the symbol that you > should be keeping in front of your website neither anywhere in your websi= te. > > Please visit http://www.freebsd.org/=A0to see the logo and the picture, b= oth > of which I strongly recommend that you remove. > > I am highly educated and qualified. > > From > Roy Mathew Your signature doesn't match your gecos. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 18:49:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79592106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063268FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdq11 with SMTP id dq11so1369447wgb.31 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:49:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of sulfurfff@gmail.com designates 10.180.101.228 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.101.228; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of sulfurfff@gmail.com designates 10.180.101.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=sulfurfff@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=sulfurfff@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.101.228]) by 10.180.101.228 with SMTP id fj4mr5779893wib.4.1330022963881 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:49:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CNQ/zSWB8ZVENpAp8tMw5ZwJoJeXVC+Ss4VzPMxN154=; b=Ksy+BkOcEWy5yyUWiWTOIJqsF8J1g9EGxNvr6xDr/zc3iQ0ONlNLIj0Z6tWTTVPsZh u7Vn7Cfj5GlHiW3G97CyxA66Oj+rgegtEwgSUa8cxbk1xrJzszUz2fEyS98rdylshbsZ JC6nSHwlLPGR4k/OnU1Hoi4ztgFd14MM3KWmM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.101.228 with SMTP id fj4mr4723675wib.4.1330022963646; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:49:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.24.162 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:49:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120223131923.66586a6b@scorpio> References: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> <20120223131923.66586a6b@scorpio> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:49:23 -0600 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ismael_Farf=C3=A1n?= To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:50:54 -0000 (Background) I have a script that uses dialog or cdialog (system, not devel,) to prompt for network settings on my FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE box. =A0When I make certain changes with the script, a reboot is required. =A0But, this would not be necessary if I ran the script during boot, before networking is setup. =A0I've hooked up my script to the rc boot system. (Issue) The trouble is that when the rc.d system runs the script, instead of the proper dialog boxes working as expected, all I get is a cleared out black screen with a white arrow locked dead center that won't move. =A0After boot, the script works normally. =A0I even have the script running in getty on a virtual console, where it works like a champ. So, what is the hangup? =A0Are there dependencies that (c)dialog needs which aren't started yet? (Troubleshooting) If I simply run dialog --msgbox "Test message" 6 25 in the rc.d file, instead of having it call my script, I get the same bad behavior. =A0That suggests that it is not my script, but the environment ... right? I have played with the order of when the test dialog message (my rc.d file) is ordered and even when it goes way at the end, after cron starts up, (which is getting pretty close to the end,) no improvement. I've seen this work on an older FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE box. =A0But, when I cranked one of those up and tried the same simple dialog test directly out of the rc.d script, it yielded a black and white ascii only version of the message box. =A0That was an improvement over what I'm getting on my current FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE version. =A0But, I wish I knew what the former magic was. Does anyone out there see what I'm missing? Thank you, Robarrght From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 18:58:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E4E1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE288FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa04 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q1NIaRfL022000 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:58:49 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 135tv982bf-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:58:49 -0600 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.62) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:58:48 -0600 Message-ID: <4F468C67.1010309@fisglobal.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:58:47 -0800 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> In-Reply-To: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.62] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-23_07:2012-02-23, 2012-02-23, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:58:50 -0000 On 02/23/2012 09:27, Andrey Chernov wrote: > Never underestimate the power of the Symbol! Hail Satan! So mote it be! -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 19:01:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0394106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A218FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF78D.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.247.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1NJ1cSd050937; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:01:38 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1NJ1Qit064443; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:01:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1NJ1D4g043370; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:01:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202231901.q1NJ1D4g043370@fire.js.berklix.net> To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:44 GMT." <4F464920.2030308@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:01:13 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Arthur Chance Subject: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:01:40 -0000 Arthur Chance wrote: > DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! Well spotted & said :-) > Not only is "Al Hadith" the Islamic term for the teachings and acts of > the Islamic prophet Muhammad, but the To: field had 388 other addresses > in it. It's a nasty troll. Those 388 probably explain why I just saw on a FreeBSD-6.4 host: ] fetchmail: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) ] fetchmail: mail from MAILER-DAEMON@........ bounced to owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ] fetchmail: SMTP listener refused delivery My sympathies go to postmaster@ team who are probably already receiving lots of bounces & noise on this. PS Yes I realise I should upgrade that 6.4 box to 8.2 (as headers made it through the more modern SMTP of list server), but my local tech. constraints etc delay me ). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 19:44:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9901106566C for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E178FC15 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0A5A72D70 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6626 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2012 19:44:16 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 13914, pid: 1942, t: 0.1306s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Feb 2012 19:44:16 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4124633C35; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:44:16 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: FreeBSD References: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> <20120223131923.66586a6b@scorpio> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:44:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20120223131923.66586a6b@scorpio> (jerry@seibercom.net's message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:19:23 -0500") Message-ID: <441uplbai7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:44:18 -0000 Jerry writes: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400 > Andrey Chernov articulated: > > {snip} > > 1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post? Me. Should I feel left out? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 19:51:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC57E1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898F48FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5669829B48; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:51:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4F4698D8.7090402@cyberleo.net> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:51:52 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120204 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robarrght References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (c)dialog working differently during boot in script called by rc system than after boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:51:54 -0000 On 02/23/2012 12:21 PM, Robarrght wrote: > Does anyone out there see what I'm missing? Setting TERM in your script's environment? To my knowledge, the boot scripts have a VERY minimal environment. Tried on 9.0-RELEASE: $ dialog --msgbox "Test message" 6 25 shows a message, whereas $ TERM="" dialog --msgbox "Test message" 6 25 shows a black screen. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 20:16:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CFB1065676 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C97B8FC15 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 20:02:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.67] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 20:02:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2012 20:02:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1330027343; bh=qek7IP+eEWSX21UUFQa0vPkgSqWz1hB72Ptv2F2qRdw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zHcj20NT7wJ52UQTPDd0k9Kk7GPQOblucpB1zNWv7s/sWZxCdwlmQ+RGLU+GpE3oOT4GL9tObVc8Vbd3wE7D9+xcCpea0t0OBf6Zu1FrHU3TaPyie5G3hQWKpADCmuY7L/AylY2tn1IiiVueaVvDWl/yC/meHCBffUkIfnJiQaw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 784313.63124.bm@smtp104.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: AOoZWSEVM1kf8qIpXSJ06UvQ_aSwPcitAvzcoaQzV482H8L wUmJZ_GtZoJLtwiXDuhOj4CZri9vGrpG9KiId0APowAZcPR1qHt.gmvehzPl aC4hHf_mdj8X5x1l0bHN2KXnpt4f8qfm3j_5glk6sNJZhnmZD48hrPYDnhf2 0XRkkfbS8TyRqYXQp4.mczN6p0CNUsRMdFy6Avts4uT0EguTvYU95WdAnu4C jk8g02hGlh.H8qRqeZ9QNcWrXsQhEzzhzWzPpPnP696MVe6QyL.XlIftyrgx ccggjV9bdNPaMxrLsOVOh6lOVrY0h_QMCm5KxdrVsncpY.m0_3OQz75z42nb e7_FPI.UDbeCR7nJkw.AJ1rAEWfyWH4rHcWC_spxz2cWaLd2MzmNMc7LQJgn aXQp78SyllxGvdJadyot0Q5gPxkhIipmIiLOpkccMMMASPQflxQ7HbsXxJ6S .HB2jsVEiudBrO3Lm1IzErp.FJIOICKmqZaJHLOTKkY3bKt2NMtSRmSWxUsK DJnkxwkFm.ayRRBDQ X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- Received: from europa (mike.jeays@99.224.68.20 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2012 12:02:23 -0800 PST Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:02:23 -0500 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120223150223.095f8c13@europa> In-Reply-To: <441uplbai7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> <20120223131923.66586a6b@scorpio> <441uplbai7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:16:20 -0000 On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:44:16 -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jerry writes: > > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400 > > Andrey Chernov articulated: > > > > {snip} > > > > 1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post? > > Me. Should I feel left out? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Me too. I think you had to have a freebsd.org mailing address to get the special treatment. Is there a way to find out how many people are on these mailing lists? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 20:51:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF26106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6618FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (www.darkmindweb.net [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Tv75r00pWzlt for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 152.121.16.252 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:51:44 -0500 Message-ID: <412116ccd8627bfa2e1b8ed440a8f553.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <201202231901.q1NJ1D4g043370@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201202231901.q1NJ1D4g043370@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:51:44 -0500 From: "Daniel Staal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:51:45 -0000 On Thu, February 23, 2012 2:01 pm, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Those 388 probably explain why I just saw on a FreeBSD-6.4 host: > > ] fetchmail: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) > ] fetchmail: mail from MAILER-DAEMON@........ bounced to > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > ] fetchmail: SMTP listener refused delivery > > My sympathies go to postmaster@ team who are probably already > receiving lots of bounces & noise on this. > > PS Yes I realise I should upgrade that 6.4 box to 8.2 > (as headers made it through the more modern SMTP of list > server), but my local tech. constraints etc delay me ). Sounds like it's working as a decent spam filter to me. What setting to I have to change to make it do that again? ;) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 21:44:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526FA106566C for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@buildingonline.com) Received: from mail.buildingonline.net (mail.buildingonline.net [12.130.64.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D788FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.208] ([206.127.77.66]) by mail.buildingonline.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q1NLWcLP043410; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:32:38 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Dan Busarow In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:32:38 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Robarrght X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (c)dialog working differently during boot in script called by rc system than after boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:44:35 -0000 On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Robarrght wrote: > (Background) > I have a script that uses dialog or cdialog (system, not devel,) to > prompt for network settings on my FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE box. When I > make certain changes with the script, a reboot is required. But, this > would not be necessary if I ran the script during boot, before > networking is setup. I've hooked up my script to the rc boot system. >=20 > (Issue) > The trouble is that when the rc.d system runs the script, instead of > the proper dialog boxes working as expected, all I get is a cleared > out black screen with a white arrow locked dead center that won't > move. After boot, the script works normally. I even have the script > running in getty on a virtual console, where it works like a champ. Looks like your TERM variable is not set when booting. Not a big = surprise really. Try setting TERM=3Dcons25 in your script before it calls dialog Dan >=20 > So, what is the hangup? Are there dependencies that (c)dialog needs > which aren't started yet? >=20 > (Troubleshooting) > If I simply run > dialog --msgbox "Test message" 6 25 > in the rc.d file, instead of having it call my script, I get the same > bad behavior. That suggests that it is not my script, but the > environment ... right? > I have played with the order of when the test dialog message (my rc.d > file) is ordered and even when it goes way at the end, after cron > starts up, (which is getting pretty close to the end,) no improvement. >=20 > I've seen this work on an older FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE box. But, when I > cranked one of those up and tried the same simple dialog test directly > out of the rc.d script, it yielded a black and white ascii only > version of the message box. That was an improvement over what I'm > getting on my current FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE version. But, I wish I knew > what the former magic was. >=20 > Does anyone out there see what I'm missing? >=20 > Thank you, > Robarrght > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 23:00:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFE8106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FFD8FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FFC5C28 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:13:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 360945C22 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:13:31 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F46C3CC.3050703@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:55:08 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202231901.q1NJ1D4g043370@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201202231901.q1NJ1D4g043370@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:00:06 -0000 On 02/24/12 05:01, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Arthur Chance wrote: >> DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! > Well spotted& said :-) > > >> Not only is "Al Hadith" the Islamic term for the teachings and acts of >> the Islamic prophet Muhammad, but the To: field had 388 other addresses >> in it. It's a nasty troll. > Those 388 probably explain why I just saw on a FreeBSD-6.4 host: > > ] fetchmail: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) > ] fetchmail: mail from MAILER-DAEMON@........ bounced to owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > ] fetchmail: SMTP listener refused delivery > > My sympathies go to postmaster@ team who are probably already > receiving lots of bounces& noise on this. > > PS Yes I realise I should upgrade that 6.4 box to 8.2 > (as headers made it through the more modern SMTP of list > server), but my local tech. constraints etc delay me ). However misguided they are, they may believe strongly in this; so I'm not sure there is a troll per se. The evidence is that they have only targeted freebsd.org addresses, and only the questions list. If they were trolling, why not include all the other lists? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 23:00:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32801106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E28FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1NN0RCf020615 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:00:30 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:17:54 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202232217.54685.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:00:33 -0000 Hi, what effort was it to collect the nearly 400 addresses? On Thursday 23 February 2012 19:29:12 Al Hadith wrote: > > My name is Roy Mathew. I am new to FreeBSD. I had a look at the history of > your operating system. > Al, Mathew? > I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the > unnecessary picture right in front of your website. Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy. Don't you like sex toys? > > I am highly educated and qualified. In what? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 23 23:18:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE4C106564A for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.bertrand@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACCA8FC15 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so2915229iae.13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of steve.bertrand@gmail.com designates 10.50.36.230 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.36.230; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of steve.bertrand@gmail.com designates 10.50.36.230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=steve.bertrand@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=steve.bertrand@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.36.230]) by 10.50.36.230 with SMTP id t6mr611029igj.5.1330039098834 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:18:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r9pbcq958mCZFgwHCsnaVpukcxovAFc6CZlpwmsuXmk=; b=S63G4pJdcjlMJVq+42wJ3UMGDzvAsZKQM3G7jRvk4eSr5NOJGOWnC7u1aVhYCjlxEq Oiy5gmkpIhka0ueueNd4AiMz1+H/Iw3TJaKOdhNPZ8sYIG8Pgsp38yiI++3vxAlAGGTn /eI8RNlKXGrOpyN7qXVYTgFIP3aVvCAOXBxQ0= Received: by 10.50.36.230 with SMTP id t6mr517666igj.5.1330039098796; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (dyn-dsl-to-76-75-112-136.nexicom.net. [76.75.112.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r1sm3637587igb.0.2012.02.23.15.18.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:18:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F46C938.6000508@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:18:16 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky References: <201202232217.54685.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201202232217.54685.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:18:19 -0000 On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the >> unnecessary picture right in front of your website. > > Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy. Don't you like sex toys? lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid 2000's. I see some things just stick ;) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 02:10:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E99106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robarrght@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789A08FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so1737469wer.13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of robarrght@gmail.com designates 10.216.135.37 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.135.37; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robarrght@gmail.com designates 10.216.135.37 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=robarrght@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=robarrght@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.135.37]) by 10.216.135.37 with SMTP id t37mr35719wei.44.1330049410575 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:10:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3dyLo3N40dKtxTcjZrZTdNRGLvXmAGR6P3pxo7+/Fwk=; b=hTlxr3w0/YKPG4pZo8BEDtUH9vJcDyQ5Z1BdjasTqZFTmaPh8EnGu3hK8gYDJOZx4z bnpo5IO+blDUyF8O+mXidOCpyefxQgJ0GUJmIFywvnM0j+oeH4+bihwMTl+P5+a7/ASh hlGOXXR5rEjKc53xCndhUQm3BP1jlauGnORkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.135.37 with SMTP id t37mr29593wei.44.1330049410466; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.143.75 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:10:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:10:10 -0600 Message-ID: From: Robarrght To: Dan Busarow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (c)dialog working differently during boot in script called by rc system than after boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:10:12 -0000 Thank you, Dan. That was exactly what I was missing. I added: export TERM=3Dcons25 to the rc.d script and now my script works as it should, when I want it to do so. I appreciate your help, very much! Robarrght On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dan Busarow wrote= : > > On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Robarrght wrote: > >> (Background) >> I have a script that uses dialog or cdialog (system, not devel,) to >> prompt for network settings on my FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE box. =A0When I >> make certain changes with the script, a reboot is required. =A0But, this >> would not be necessary if I ran the script during boot, before >> networking is setup. =A0I've hooked up my script to the rc boot system. >> >> (Issue) >> The trouble is that when the rc.d system runs the script, instead of >> the proper dialog boxes working as expected, all I get is a cleared >> out black screen with a white arrow locked dead center that won't >> move. =A0After boot, the script works normally. =A0I even have the scrip= t >> running in getty on a virtual console, where it works like a champ. > > Looks like your TERM variable is not set when booting. =A0Not a big surpr= ise really. =A0Try setting > > TERM=3Dcons25 > > in your script before it calls dialog > > Dan > > > >> >> So, what is the hangup? =A0Are there dependencies that (c)dialog needs >> which aren't started yet? >> >> (Troubleshooting) >> If I simply run >> dialog --msgbox "Test message" 6 25 >> in the rc.d file, instead of having it call my script, I get the same >> bad behavior. =A0That suggests that it is not my script, but the >> environment ... right? >> I have played with the order of when the test dialog message (my rc.d >> file) is ordered and even when it goes way at the end, after cron >> starts up, (which is getting pretty close to the end,) no improvement. >> >> I've seen this work on an older FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE box. =A0But, when I >> cranked one of those up and tried the same simple dialog test directly >> out of the rc.d script, it yielded a black and white ascii only >> version of the message box. =A0That was an improvement over what I'm >> getting on my current FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE version. =A0But, I wish I knew >> what the former magic was. >> >> Does anyone out there see what I'm missing? >> >> Thank you, >> Robarrght >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 02:46:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40698106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rg.lists@rzweb.com) Received: from flabnapple.net (flabnapple.net [216.129.104.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318E08FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.flabnapple.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flabnapple.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E221CC056 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:28:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:28:42 -0800 From: "Ron (Lists)" To: Message-ID: <631608cd19bd65498b82506c300cab16@flabnapple.net> X-Sender: rg.lists@rzweb.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.7 Cc: Subject: NetAddr/IP.pm, p5-GSSAPI and FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:46:21 -0000 I did a port upgrade last week and now I'm seeing a lot of errors like this in spamassassin and the like: Can't locate NetAddr/IP.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.9 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9) at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.14.2/Mail/SpamAssassin/NetSet.pm line 25. The problem seems to be in or related to: ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/security/p5-GSSAPI ===>>> This port is marked BROKEN ===>>> Does not work on FreeBSD 7.x ===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again. ===>>> Update for p5-GSSAPI-0.28 failed ===>>> Aborting update I won't be able to upgrade my machine to the lastest freeBSD for a couple of weeks. Is this a temp solution I can use to get this compiling and spamassassin working? I'm not sure why it's not able to find these other .pm files, it might be due to a failed portmaster update? I've tried re-updating p5-*, but I am always stopped by the BROKEN error. I haven't tried removing the BROKEN line yet, as I don't know if doing that will cause even worse problems. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 03:53:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8182C106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FCC8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdq11 with SMTP id dq11so1662538wgb.31 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.131.234; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.131.234]) by 10.216.131.234 with SMTP id m84mr249464wei.24.1330055605267 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:53:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pLshXPbP9G9lePkzfLhb0fhhJopbrDYFE0OZW0xX9UI=; b=YhWf0y+1H0shSV/qiBIGlNIHM3z3sGWhQyKbt7r2HFrJBKOQlWjFdyIKjbYvE+UigF TMCPXlZwbBUceXhNAPVuIj89yNVMexfzIPAyFQDWDA1J1oY5mROyvoub0TysDYwwxHCi K5HbcdH4G8qj586JCPklXtx3TPzMq4LMgByOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.131.234 with SMTP id m84mr208861wei.24.1330055605193; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:53:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:53:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: apache22 + spawn-fcgi + php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:53:26 -0000 LoadModule fastcgi_module libexec/apache22/mod_fastcgi.so AddHandler php5-fastcgi .php FastCgiExternalServer /usr/local/www/apache22/data/ -socket /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock wx3# ls -al /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock srwxrwxrwx 1 www www 0 Feb 24 02:41 /var/run/spawn_fcgi.sock wx3# when I try to access my IP I'm getting following on my screen I get: No input file specified. error_log: [Fri Feb 24 03:43:56 2012] [notice] Apache/2.2.21 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/0.9.8q DAV/2 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.7.2 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 configured -- resuming normal operations access_log: 74.90.214.65 - - [24/Feb/2012:03:50:03 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 404 25 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_3) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.39 Safari/535.19" and when I'm trying to hit my ip/phpinfo.php (phpinfo();) my browser just downloads phpinfo.php to my computer access_log 74.90.214.65 - - [24/Feb/2012:03:52:17 +0000] "GET /phpinfo.php HTTP/1.1" 200 20 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_7_3) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.39 Safari/535.19" any ideas? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 06:55:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD15106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA3D8FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1O6swZM000471; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:55:01 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:54:54 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <20120223172708.GA92864@vniz.net> <20120223131923.66586a6b@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120223131923.66586a6b@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201202241354.55076.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:55:03 -0000 Hi, On Friday 24 February 2012 01:19:23 Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:27:08 +0400 > Andrey Chernov articulated: >=20 > {snip} >=20 > 1) Was there anyone NOT CC'd in that last post? it was only 400 of yours. So, not so bad. >=20 > 2) Why are we feeding this troll? To have some fun trolling the troll. Erich >=20 > .:\:/:. > +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:. > | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.: > | FEED THE TROLLS | :=3D.' - - '.=3D: > | | '=3D(\ 9 9 /)=3D' > | Thank you, | ( (_) ) > | Management | /`-vvv-'\ > +-------------------+ / \ > | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \ > | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\ > @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW > \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__ > \||/ | | | (______Y______) > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jerry =E2=99=94 >=20 > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. > Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. > __________________________________________________________________ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 06:59:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5DE106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C6A8FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1O6xNXN001356; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:59:25 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:59:18 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201202232217.54685.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F46C938.6000508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F46C938.6000508@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202241359.19031.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:59:27 -0000 Hi, On Friday 24 February 2012 06:18:16 Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > >> I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the > >> unnecessary picture right in front of your website. > > > > Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy. Don't you like sex toys? > > lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid > 2000's. I see some things just stick ;) yes, he spoke it out loud. I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the horns. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 06:59:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5171065686 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C038FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekd17 with SMTP id d17so102365eek.13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 10.213.108.83 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.213.108.83; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 10.213.108.83 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=odhiambo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=odhiambo@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.213.108.83]) by 10.213.108.83 with SMTP id e19mr349190ebp.46.1330066783270 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:59:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=loQHdc9Z1Sjr8RasamIBflqZ0wn7zA1c7kYCU6QFBJc=; b=n6pLaYJcY6JYgIqRL5HCCQGP58hJixDO+ZPW6jcLXZ740ydqC7JgXGqOJLQ5aU5zaj rshHgPByB2YmUc4HKJzVKr/rnCk6Bm+P//+xvK3d9jUoVnuFdbxISfVlBMnGEtAcI6yb r9vEbDVNtuiBotBLfVqWr1BXFTbLYarBkSc3U= Received: by 10.213.108.83 with SMTP id e19mr260765ebp.46.1330066783155; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:59:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.108.76 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:59:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F46C938.6000508@gmail.com> References: <201202232217.54685.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F46C938.6000508@gmail.com> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:59:03 +0300 Message-ID: To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174be7a22336df04b9b04e58 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:59:45 -0000 --0015174be7a22336df04b9b04e58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:18, Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > I suggest to everyone of you that you recommend to change/replace the >>> unnecessary picture right in front of your website. >>> >> >> Are you talking about this ugly ball? Some say that it is a sex toy. >> Don't you like sex toys? >> > > lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid > 2000's. I see some things just stick ;) > > And now that someone has mentioned Ted Mittelstaedt, I really miss Ted. He made me love FreeBSD because of all the assistance he'd give. Where is he?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. --0015174be7a22336df04b9b04e58-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 07:14:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCE71065672 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246718FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1O7EcCt037063 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:14:38 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1O7EcCt037063 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1330067678; bh=l7kChMCUk/MH2HZgpzMzYeJ8MsMqGcMCsWxs5aNqnH8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=EGhXLVxz1Zage2WngMyPBh/8bip9DlD55BepVwf7y6l0DgmBfqajZ+ZZheS0M8c12 /HipP6OpjMb8qJby6vL9MUldlzTZsBZz4dk41bQLIsbcZi4KjvOX4xWDIKJWlKUfiT ZDVnBJIDzPrUdMGACuXBGXd/sR7feYlIeFWdtZ2o= Message-ID: <4F4738D8.9060900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:14:32 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202232217.54685.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F46C938.6000508@gmail.com> <201202241359.19031.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201202241359.19031.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig71FBF6CB745DD0E982231A8E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:14:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig71FBF6CB745DD0E982231A8E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the= horns. That would be what most people call a "ball." They have them in the west too... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig71FBF6CB745DD0E982231A8E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9HON0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxLHgCgjQvALMVOG9iyuNSds4n+4/3t xr4AnAie1geUzdUI+3RXzaacsrUEwTYu =z2wf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig71FBF6CB745DD0E982231A8E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 07:37:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D96C106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65928FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1O7bdVs037407 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:37:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1O7bdVs037407 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1330069060; bh=a7NVPWNHRuc3FJ0jbJG8dzcq+oa63taq4ip3UOK++Tk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=YbDlHewvbkUPcv0tdA73W4yUx5hj8InizLWxmxzhSK1W9K73Q7o7eBQolVjqEkvUK QZvTPvbHn0JPNn6rWFbw6X5v+iw8GsQpxsfJbK55OSbLRgUBRRiKKKi9sCpEZWolMx rtqNBu/xlYP6SbD+VNot6/l3qoxdYQyyfQtjs4ig= Message-ID: <4F473E43.4030104@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:37:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky References: <201202241359.19031.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F4738D8.9060900@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201202241432.29069.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> In-Reply-To: <201202241432.29069.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig00E3EAC4EB78B4D9F548F9E0" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:37:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig00E3EAC4EB78B4D9F548F9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/02/2012 07:32, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>> I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without t= he horns. >> >> That would be what most people call a "ball." They have them in the >> west too... >> > do they vibrate when they get moved? >=20 > The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which ma= ke them vibrate. I bow to your superior knowledge of the seamier side of hardware. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig00E3EAC4EB78B4D9F548F9E0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9HPkMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwwyACeIG388I6FpFY2hDLFD3PDpMDD 4HkAn1K3GitTI0DOEIaWX2bxCOeB7Vp1 =NDTx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig00E3EAC4EB78B4D9F548F9E0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 07:41:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7CF106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F225C8FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1O7ZXLA010588; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:35:38 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:35:28 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F46C938.6000508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202241435.29415.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Odhiambo Washington , Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:41:07 -0000 Hi, On Friday 24 February 2012 13:59:03 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:18, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > > On 2012-02-23 10:17, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > lol iirc, Ted Mittelstaedt started the sex-toy thing sometime in the mid > > 2000's. I see some things just stick ;) > > > > > And now that someone has mentioned Ted Mittelstaedt, I really miss Ted. He > made me love FreeBSD because of all the assistance he'd give. Where is he?? > he actually has had written a book which made me return to BSD after a long absence. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 07:51:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD8B106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f47.google.com (mail-qw0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66628FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadz30 with SMTP id z30so145869qad.13 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of omerfsen@gmail.com designates 10.229.78.159 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.229.78.159; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of omerfsen@gmail.com designates 10.229.78.159 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=omerfsen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=omerfsen@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.229.78.159]) by 10.229.78.159 with SMTP id l31mr1062449qck.114.1330069880185 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:51:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CeRy+43y9dFwFKIEsqZZvITzQpmTrmGcAUTHo494b2o=; b=xW0iMn9UT008L7Gue1vbqyPNa261Pbo3oQRxxFFHKS0LjV5q4pY8fAIGQJQfgpqGxm sQGvcIbXfARBJiD8ivjTPaBJXzMPZ+cs0+Psh2kQnAaYU+0QpVPZYWaGnrVymFw1VIfJ XQ1/Keobo3OThV3iiRIUPmpuhtZY9+yGDEFo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.78.159 with SMTP id l31mr872860qck.114.1330069879729; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.24.81 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:51:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:51:19 +0200 Message-ID: From: Omer Faruk SEN To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:51:21 -0000 Already done that but still habe the same issue. I can dd and sysctl but after installing without using W at disk label screen still no luck. I have also done sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 on fixit and restarted installation but still getting the same error. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > > > >> I am trying to install FreeBSD 8.3-BETA1 to a system with ssd disk > >> recognized as ad6. At fixit mode i can dd device but at installer > >> (sysinstall) when I configured disk and using "w" installer is unable to > >> format devices stating that > >> > >> "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad6s1b in dev. The creation of file > >> systems will be aborted" > >> > >> any suggestion on what may be the reason for that or is it a bug on > >> installer > > > > Using "W"rite is one of the causes for that. Don't Write, just choose > > Quit after making selections. > > > > (There are other causes, like old partitioning information on the disk. > > Removing that with gpart destroy or just dd-ing zeros over it is the > > cure in that case.) > > If you need to clear the old MBR the "old way", use a LiveFS or Fixit shell > and do this (as root): > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > where x equals your drive number. This will zero out any old MBR. > > A time or two when I've seen this error this fixed it up and the install > proceeds as normal. As Warren said before, don't use the "W", just Q and > sysinstall will queue and issue all the commands at a later point. > > -Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 08:10:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825B2106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B0F8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjg1 with SMTP id jg1so2352342bkc.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of c.kworr@gmail.com designates 10.204.156.219 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.156.219; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of c.kworr@gmail.com designates 10.204.156.219 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=c.kworr@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=c.kworr@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.156.219]) by 10.204.156.219 with SMTP id y27mr539477bkw.110.1330071015999 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:10:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x+4HSE2vmaW+yxz5WpxNNmH6ua11WxnFhvwjyIYQKJA=; b=yFIVUCu6tzBj3YOj8y6WpU1bSJKJ6Ea3q+OtvFMP/gEWxVNP94Yh9SuD83CnO4rkss FYbkaLnxTh09GVN7NVbTMJFIxgBW6yIO0eIhk8Ye9VbyOmhaoWfN0c9SbWHeQsWy3IUW xrtD4ah3CWFH7R5pcSM5NG2178Pnk3J0x1j88= Received: by 10.204.156.219 with SMTP id y27mr448274bkw.110.1330071015911; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from green.tandem.local (204-18-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net. [95.132.18.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7sm7068728bkw.16.2012.02.24.00.10.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:10:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F4745E4.8080002@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:12 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120220 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= References: <1454516861.20120223091945@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <1454516861.20120223091945@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VERY slow performance on igb+FreeBSD8.2+mpd5.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:10:22 -0000 Коньков Евгений wrote: > > #uname FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #2 r231881: Thu Feb 23 00:53:28 UTC 2012 > и Version 5.6 (root@ 10:03 20-Feb-2012) > http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790445113.png > try to reconnect to mpd 10-20times and you get next: > http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790454801.png Used server differs in your images. Would you please track down assigned IP's? -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 09:08:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AC51065674 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7170A8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0r8y-0001vH-Vc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:49 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0r8y-0005bT-SJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:48 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1O98mux031911 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:48 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1O98mXC031909 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:48 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:48 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:08:50 -0000 Recently I started seeing this line in daily security output: Checking negative group permissions: 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq I've a parallel printer attached to a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. What does it mean? Should I be worried? Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 09:34:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169DF106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9195A8FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1O9Y21m091003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:34:02 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1O9Y21m091003 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1330076042; bh=UPWHF8t8/TMP3zUowtt03aa+H+UbNmDrwLkhWEzWiYo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=sZfyMYE+L4W3CGLwYYDnvFaO/+AmolXTB/aMmbSxzPc/CE8RxBp7UEhTv8pMAGqtE O3PwRYQ8BAPcA5GXVLtSgDkiWBqZO63baHnYgsWujlqDPdVjm94yg22LTMTl8Qv6MH cwcv38lrAM75rlOr+1nxQO4lF4oOQ9HkK3OSEyUQ= Message-ID: <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:34:02 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB7F81C226EEEF35A9897EE2F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:34:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB7F81C226EEEF35A9897EE2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/02/2012 09:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Recently I started seeing this line > in daily security output: >=20 > Checking negative group permissions: > 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/o= utput/lpd/.seq >=20 > I've a parallel printer attached to > a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. >=20 > What does it mean? This means that non-root users in group daemon have only read permissions on that file. Users that aren't root and that aren't in group daemon have execute permission only. It does look a bit odd, and I believe that file would just contain a job number (IIRC -- haven't dealt much with lpd or lprng much recently) so executing it doesn't really achieve anything. This is the standard idiom to allow access for 'everyone, except members of a particular group.' One way you can get weird permissions is if you happen to use decimal for permissions bitmaps rather than octal. A umask of '77' is not the same thing at all as a umask of '077'. (It's effectively 0115, which doesn't make much sense to me.) Most shells nowadays will assume you mean octal whether you include the leading zero or not: the same is not true if you use umask(2) to set the mask programatically. Ditto for other places you can set permissions like open(2) with O_CREAT or mkdir(2= ). > Should I be worried? No more than a normal level of paranoia is indicated here. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigB7F81C226EEEF35A9897EE2F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9HWYoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzGPACdGQycjk07uzER+GJa8pJu8DPI 74UAoIc3D19Hhi6mzvaH/azHyBULcSAT =CcL/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB7F81C226EEEF35A9897EE2F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 09:41:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0421065670 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743668FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q1O9fgxI056624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:41:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q1O9fgps056623 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02880; Fri, 24 Feb 12 01:37:24 PST Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:37:22 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4f47bcc2.i0iNgy94hupdyGb5%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Converting C++ to C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:41:43 -0000 Some early implementations of C++ operated as preprocessors that emitted C code. Is there any current tool that will do that? I didn't recognize any such option in the g++ manpage, although I suppose it's possible that one of the -fdump-tree- options would come close enough. Reason: I want to make what I think would be a fairly minor change to a small (1100-line) C++ program, but I don't know C++ -- only C -- and I don't understand the program well enough to mess with it. I suspect I would be able to figure out an equivalent C program. In case it matters, I'm using FreeBSD 8.1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 10:10:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9F51065686 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C028FC1E for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-56-229.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.56.229] helo=[192.168.42.23]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1S0s6Y-0001C2-cB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:22 +0000 From: "Dave" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: , X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:24 -0000 Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to" settings. Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 (was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list. Might the list settings need tweaking a bit? Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server somewhere. Regards. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 10:42:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EB1106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA658FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-56-229.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.56.229] helo=[192.168.42.23]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1S0sbw-0003SC-Xl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:42:48 +0000 From: "Dave" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:42:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F4769A7.7840.55D4BD7@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <201202241728.19666.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> References: , <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <201202241728.19666.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:42:50 -0000 On 24 Feb 2012 at 17:28, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote: > > Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to" > > settings. > > I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all. > > > > Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 > > (was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list. > > Wasn't it 389? :-) > > > > Might the list settings need tweaking a bit? > > > > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, > > are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some > > server somewhere. > > Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org? > > Erich Indeed, so some settings might do with a tweak, to at least obfuscate posters addresses, so that at least script kiddies are flumoxed. I never intentionaly use any "Reply to All" function. In fact, this mailer doesn't even have a button for that. You have to select where the reply goes, after you hit the "reply" button, from a list of available addresses in the incoming message header, that the mailer has recognised. Just a thought as this problem is not going to go away. Dave B. PS: How about a "regional Beastie" wearing a headscarf and carring an assault rifle instead of a trident? That's me targeted then.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 11:08:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6E11065674 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E148FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OB8qvq013680; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:08:52 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4F476FC4.9060401@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:08:52 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120219 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202231901.q1NJ1D4g043370@fire.js.berklix.net> <4F46C3CC.3050703@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F46C3CC.3050703@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:08:55 -0000 On 02/23/12 22:55, Da Rock wrote: > On 02/24/12 05:01, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> Arthur Chance wrote: >>> DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! >> Well spotted& said :-) [snip] > However misguided they are, they may believe strongly in this; so I'm > not sure there is a troll per se. > > The evidence is that they have only targeted freebsd.org addresses, and > only the questions list. If they were trolling, why not include all the > other lists? A reasonable question but the discrepancies between > My name is Roy Mathew. and > From: Al Hadith seem a typical indication of a troll. The sometimes mangled English after claiming an Anglo-Saxon name and the non sequitur final line also suggest troll. Finally, as far as I understand it, many followers of Islam would find the use of "Al Hadith" as an adopted name to be provocative. Yes, the OP may be a genuine seeker after truth, but my money's on troll. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 11:35:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F3B1065674 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FB88FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0tQS-0003N3-KE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:00 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:00 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:34:35 -0500 Lines: 87 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:35:02 -0000 Omer Faruk SEN wrote: [edited to relocate top post] [snip] >> >> If you need to clear the old MBR the "old way", use a LiveFS or Fixit >> shell and do this (as root): >> >> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 >> >> where x equals your drive number. This will zero out any old MBR. >> >> A time or two when I've seen this error this fixed it up and the install >> proceeds as normal. As Warren said before, don't use the "W", just Q and >> sysinstall will queue and issue all the commands at a later point. > Already done that but still habe the same issue. I can dd and sysctl but > after installing without using W at disk label screen still no luck. I > have also done > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 on fixit and restarted installation but > still getting the same error. > I apologize over minor language difficulties, as I'm as guilty as anyone. But I do find the above slightly confusing, as I cannot tell for certain whether you have executed the commands correctly, or not. I can easily assume that you did and the problem indeed is somewhere else. The purpose of the sysctl command is to make it so that the subsequent dd can actually complete it's write to zero the MBR. If you were to examine this sector in a hex editor you would see all zeroes if the dd was successful. If it's anything other than all zeroes the write did not happen. If the write didn't happen then the problem would remain. Historically, I had this problem when I pulled an old backup disk off the shelf to swap into a box with a failed drive. The old disk still had the previous install of version 6.2 on it. I'm not certain exactly what changed, but some fuzzy glint of memory seems to make me think it was some kind of change in partition labeling between 6.2 and 7.x which rendered 7.x unable to properly read and modify the disk. Trying to install 7.x over the old 6.2 continually failed with exactly the same error as you describe until I booted from a LiveFS CD and did the above 2 commands. Another difference is that I have _not_ done this procedure in a FIXIT shell; I'm just assuming here that it would work the same way but could be wrong. There are several other things that jump out at me that I will include for ideas. A RAID controller sometimes will store it's metadata on the last sector of a disk. I doubt that this would cause a problem until or unless you were trying to use a GEOM class like gmirror which does the same thing and would clash. If so, you'd need to zero this sector as well. I doubt that this is the situation. You could also play around with BIOS controller configurations as well. For example, you would not want to be using Intel MatrixRAID. So "NO" to setting the controller to any kind of RAID setting in BIOS - and for an SSD you really want to select AHCI. The only other choice is Legacy support. I'm also a little apprehensive of installing to ad6 - you might try as an experiment unplugging any/all other drives you don't want to take chances with and plug up the SSD as ad0 to see if this changes anything. I have FBSD 9 installed in a VM for testing, and I believe it has switched to the new ATA_CAM layer as default now. I have also configured my 8.2 machines the same way so the drives are now ada0 instead of the old ad0 naming scheme. I do not know if this change has gone into the 8.3 Beta you are having trouble with. Examine your dmesg output and you can determine this. If your drive(s) are showing up as ada0 then possibly sysinstall doesn't know how to deal with this. I thought this was supposed to start with 9, and do not really know anything about 8.3 Beta. One thing I'd try is to see if installing 8.2 RELEASE would work. If it did, then the devs probably need some kind of PR filed so they will be aware. I won't see 8.3 until it becomes RELEASE, as I run production machines and I just am not interested in any potential upgrade until 8.3 achieves RELEASE status. But if attempting to install 8.2 RELEASE does the same thing it would circle me back to believing the crux of the problem is whatever was on the drive previously - and that needs to be successfully erased before your install will proceed. You should also reboot the box after doing these 2 commands, don't just try and continue on with sysinstall - reboot first. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 11:37:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AB3106567A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A348FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECF36947; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F6B18BF4; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:37:08 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Dave" References: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:37:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> (dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:21 -0000") Message-ID: <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:37:09 -0000 "Dave" writes: > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are=20 > they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server=20 > somewhere. It is public information: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-comm= itters.html DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 07:32:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051BB106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4378FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1O7WWQ7009868; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:32:34 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:32:28 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201202241359.19031.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F4738D8.9060900@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F4738D8.9060900@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202241432.29069.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:54:46 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:32:40 -0000 Hi, On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the horns. > > That would be what most people call a "ball." They have them in the > west too... > do they vibrate when they get moved? The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which make them vibrate. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 11:55:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A5D1065673 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0058FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBFFE4.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.255.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1OBsudo066889 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:54:58 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1OBsiVP069595 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1OBscgC061818 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202241154.q1OBscgC061818@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:37:07 +0100." <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:38 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:55:00 -0000 =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: > "Dave" writes: > > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are > > they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server > > somewhere. > > It is public information: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-committers.html Also http://www.freebsd.org/internal/homepage.html Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 12:07:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972F2106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB6F8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBFFE4.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.255.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1OC7YRV066997; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:07:35 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1OC7Nv5069661; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:07:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1OC75HG062038; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:07:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202241207.q1OC75HG062038@fire.js.berklix.net> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:37:22 PST." <4f47bcc2.i0iNgy94hupdyGb5%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:07:05 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Converting C++ to C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:07:38 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Some early implementations of C++ operated as preprocessors > that emitted C code. Is there any current tool that will do > that? I didn't recognize any such option in the g++ manpage, > although I suppose it's possible that one of the -fdump-tree- > options would come close enough. > > Reason: I want to make what I think would be a fairly minor > change to a small (1100-line) C++ program, but I don't know C++ > -- only C -- and I don't understand the program well enough > to mess with it. I suspect I would be able to figure out an > equivalent C program. > > In case it matters, I'm using FreeBSD 8.1. One of the lists recently (maybe 2/3 weeks ago) carried a thread listing many C compilers past & present. It started by discussing Clang V. GCC I can't remember which list, I don't think it was questions@ maybe hackers@ or current@. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 12:10:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D61F10656D0 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronnyma@volatile.no) Received: from na3sys010aog110.obsmtp.com (na3sys010aog110.obsmtp.com [74.125.245.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFADA8FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f176.google.com ([209.85.214.176]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys010aob110.postini.com ([74.125.244.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT0d+NGd8OwMgRDIiRlo1MpC6QxCuMJVC@postini.com; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:10:28 PST Received: by mail-tul01m020-f176.google.com with SMTP id wd18so4002891obb.35 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ronnyma@volatile.no designates 10.60.27.6 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.60.27.6; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ronnyma@volatile.no designates 10.60.27.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ronnyma@volatile.no; dkim=pass header.i=ronnyma@volatile.no Received: from mr.google.com ([10.60.27.6]) by 10.60.27.6 with SMTP id p6mr895579oeg.36.1330085428244 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:10:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=volatile.no; s=google; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oOzLOWwVamN7EY/6KyaAhOBh0ZVeX0Ki6DCZYtOxLjo=; b=upxLliOMOs5rWdVw5eaAre6bisCbPM3RCCJgNZqRN1w0O3re+q821oaimvxWZ0QE50 k7XCEFbhwMtbskCTmt0ZDeCHaNd5CSjb178kJWa8AJeTNH8fnOOtO4kOeOicABUA2LP+ nd/Gux2EtX/ndN28fIUunq4wW+521E7d9v8G0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.27.6 with SMTP id p6mr736208oeg.36.1330083562989; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.20.1 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:39:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:39:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ronny Mandal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6sN1b1r6/WfO7m3Q/JzLst5Iy9oVhoh5/fKx7zorehSIA4fVc7U9VzD2Sy4cCFQX99ibv Subject: 9.0, Samba and two NICs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:10:29 -0000 Hi! I have been running Samba on FreeBSD 9.0 with a wireless card. A share is connected to my W7 computer. To get more speed between the computers, I decided to activate the 1GBit- Ethernet on the FreeBSD and establish a direct connection (cross-link) to the W7. I gave the new connection a static IP/subnet: 10.0.0.2/255.0.0.0 for the FreeBSD and 10.0.0.1/255.0.0.0 for the W7. SSH works fine, however Samba is utilizing the wireless card. My smb.conf looks something like this: .. ;The 192-address is the wireless, ath0. 10.0.0.2 is age0 interfaces = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.232 10.0.0.2 bind interfaces only = yes ; the two latter is the IPs of the W7 hosts allow = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.117 10.0.0.1 If I remove the 192* in the hosts allow, my W7 looses access via smb. netstat tells me that it is listening to both interfaces. What might be wrong? Thanks. -- Best regards, Ronny Mandal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 10:28:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD25A106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3138FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1OASM9H015071; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:28:24 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:28:19 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202241728.19666.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:11:37 +0000 Cc: Dave Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:28:26 -0000 Hi, On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote: > Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to" settings. I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all. > > Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 (was > it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list. Wasn't it 389? > > Might the list settings need tweaking a bit? > > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, are > they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some server > somewhere. Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 12:21:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E543106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735AF8FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBFFE4.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.255.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1OCL41r067099; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:21:05 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1OCKpdf069782; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:20:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1OCKg5D062431; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:20:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202241220.q1OCKg5D062431@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Erich Dollansky From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:32:28 +0700." <201202241432.29069.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:20:42 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:21:14 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the horns. > > > > That would be what most people call a "ball." They have them in the > > west too... > > > do they vibrate when they get moved? > > The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which make them vibrate. Yes there's an acoustic element to them I recall, about 3.5 cm (2.54 cm = 1") diameter, pack of 2. Pick one up & it feels like an outer stainless steel shell, connected by springs to an inner weight. Reflex was to want to saw it apart to see what was inside, & how they assembled the 2 halves. I suppose spot welding, then circular rim welding, then polishing then stainless steel finish ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm7508542anu.6.2012.02.24.04.27.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3TvWsm2bJMz2CG47 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:27:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:27:26 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120224072726.4d72d2c1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4F473E43.4030104@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <201202241359.19031.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F4738D8.9060900@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201202241432.29069.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <4F473E43.4030104@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/l37NdTWYC49UzcjM=WMNaFc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkCWTJlYH0xA2YDjOUw2DrN7PI4s0qxojfG+WawLxwf17cO3BPn2dk/nEONp6itVmDXH+kG Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:43 -0000 --Sig_/l37NdTWYC49UzcjM=WMNaFc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:37:39 +0000 Matthew Seaman articulated: > On 24/02/2012 07:32, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >>> I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just > >>> without the horns. > >> > >> That would be what most people call a "ball." They have them in > >> the west too... > >> > > do they vibrate when they get moved? > >=20 > > The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside > > which make them vibrate. >=20 > I bow to your superior knowledge of the seamier side of hardware. In a past life, I worked in radio "traffic analysis". It is really a rather fascinating exercise in how things can evolve or fit together. Here we started out with a "TROLL" inquiring about a FreeBSD symbol and have evolved into the discussion of "Ben Wa balls". Truly amazing. You will notice that I did not CC what I have been told was 400 recipients. A month or so ago I was arguing against the use of CC'ing in a mail forum. That example so very clearly demonstrated why. .:\:/:. +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:. | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.: | FEED THE TROLLS | :=3D.' - - '.=3D: | | '=3D(\ 9 9 /)=3D' | Thank you, | ( (_) ) | Management | /`-vvv-'\ +-------------------+ / \ | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \ | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\ @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__ \||/ | | | (______Y______) /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ --=20 Jerry =E2=99=94 Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ ASCII a stupid question, you get an EBCDIC answer. --Sig_/l37NdTWYC49UzcjM=WMNaFc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPR4I7AAoJEF2rWD2do7dN+6IIAMAlSBP1QJd/9c443FazFiyr PUKzwcCO7GYN1h8JdTZ5Vdu9OAHn+r6MwQyTQH2VjwvnjZnPJzQAVXwxWP2t09gh m8TMKyVe3UI4xpqCGwbcAG94w10e9aoiI4ouqMqHLt7QJ4PUn6LFbg0C5lmA/vNh P9kYdEdKc4VO9z8fdeVCplk7/hzGCWupcxhNJw53sXbflWYdreveT03tM/HIvj8O 91uG8/sutItLSemDg7Lef7PIzjoBXuvOr+mlG3RiX3Si2HB+9/CFBg0QGoAqYzuR GKAnD+eRJ+u+ClgDbpNTINyDMJZVQH3eWrIJR/w93NbUQKw/gUpJ52BmM2G0rnI= =1LjP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/l37NdTWYC49UzcjM=WMNaFc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 12:51:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1500D10656D8 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70E48FC1D for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcwo16 with SMTP id wo16so3655681obc.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com designates 10.182.51.73 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.182.51.73; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com designates 10.182.51.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.182.51.73]) by 10.182.51.73 with SMTP id i9mr850517obo.17.1330087903243 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:51:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pWoYP7Zrf6bkpk0B7wGfVqxqkZtTV3oVZ/igm9PRIl4=; b=yDWyqjefVvrWeNNlVlQqjDaDufS9klAWYMEAS2EH6oPCa0ARvouUTjv9nsRqlIcGUy oy/n+MP0nsbv1sS1GHJ+hrLOmXEUYr+rvI/HjG3lV0PG9UGViOiJ/IYZT1hIMCMVal1L VYOMhHvyMIyfdyuwTOsfwYrToZysQnBGy8Y2s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.51.73 with SMTP id i9mr745822obo.17.1330087903057; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.38.38 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:51:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4f47bcc2.i0iNgy94hupdyGb5%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4f47bcc2.i0iNgy94hupdyGb5%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Converting C++ to C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:51:44 -0000 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:37 AM, wrote: > Some early implementations of C++ operated as preprocessors > that emitted C code. Is there any current tool that will do > that? I didn't recognize any such option in the g++ manpage, > although I suppose it's possible that one of the -fdump-tree- > options would come close enough. > > Reason: I want to make what I think would be a fairly minor > change to a small (1100-line) C++ program, but I don't know C++ > -- only C -- and I don't understand the program well enough > to mess with it. I suspect I would be able to figure out an > equivalent C program. > > In case it matters, I'm using FreeBSD 8.1. > http://www.comeaucomputing.com/ http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout/ http://www.comeaucomputing.com/faqs/genfaq.html#ccompiler http://stackoverflow.com/questions/737257/code-convert-from-c-to-c Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 12:54:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDEB106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978338FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0ufP-0004Te-CD; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:31 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0ufP-00017e-4v; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:31 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OCsURL008084; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:30 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1OCsUGN008083; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:30 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:30 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54:33 -0000 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:34:02AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/02/2012 09:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Recently I started seeing this line > > in daily security output: > > > > Checking negative group permissions: > > 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq > > > > I've a parallel printer attached to > > a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. > > > > What does it mean? > > This means that non-root users in group daemon have only read > permissions on that file. Users that aren't root and that aren't in > group daemon have execute permission only. > > It does look a bit odd, and I believe that file would just contain a job > number (IIRC -- haven't dealt much with lpd or lprng much recently) > so executing it doesn't really achieve anything. > > This is the standard idiom to allow access for 'everyone, except members > of a particular group.' yes, I get this. > One way you can get weird permissions is if you happen to use decimal > for permissions bitmaps rather than octal. A umask of '77' is not the > same thing at all as a umask of '077'. (It's effectively 0115, which > doesn't make much sense to me.) Most shells nowadays will assume you > mean octal whether you include the leading zero or not: the same is not > true if you use umask(2) to set the mask programatically. Ditto for > other places you can set permissions like open(2) with O_CREAT or mkdir(2). # umask 0022 # pwd /var/spool/output/lpd # ls -al total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:43 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 21 12:54 lock -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 21 12:54 status # Then I print something: % pwd | lpr Then this .seq file appears with weird permissions: # ls -al total 10 drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:46 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 24 12:45 .seq -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 24 12:45 lock -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 24 12:45 status # # cat .seq 001 # So presumably lpd(8) created this file, but I'm still unsure why permissions are so strange. But interests me more, is why I didn't see it until about 1-2 months ago? Has something chaged in -current, e.g. in open(2) like you suggest? Or has I messed up with my setup? Or maybe it was always like this, but the security check didn't pick it up? > > > Should I be worried? > > No more than a normal level of paranoia is indicated here. Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 12:45:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39E2106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615528FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1OCix1i012805; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:45:03 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:44:52 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.3-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <201202241220.q1OCKg5D062431@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201202241220.q1OCKg5D062431@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201202241944.53699.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:10:10 +0000 Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:45:08 -0000 Hi, On Friday 24 February 2012 19:20:42 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without the horns. > > > > > > That would be what most people call a "ball." They have them in the > > > west too... > > > > > do they vibrate when they get moved? > > > > The Asian balls are more like bells. There is something inside which make them vibrate. > > Yes there's an acoustic element to them I recall, about 3.5 cm (2.54 it sounds like on some, it doesn't sound like in others. There are different diameters available. They are also a good tool to massage your own hands, get your back massages and - coming to the subject - do what people do with a thing looking like the famous logo. > cm = 1") diameter, pack of 2. Pick one up & it feels like an outer > stainless steel shell, connected by springs to an inner weight. > Reflex was to want to saw it apart to see what was inside, & how > they assembled the 2 halves. I suppose spot welding, then circular > rim welding, then polishing then stainless steel finish ? I also wanted to do the same too but I never did. I have no idea how they are really manufactured. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 13:15:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545FB106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C438FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-56-229.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.56.229] helo=[192.168.42.23]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH g8kbv) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.69) id 1S0v07-0000m1-Ym for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:15:55 +0000 From: "Dave" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:15:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4F478D8B.31307.5E97C34@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: , <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> (dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:10:21 -0000"), <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:15:57 -0000 On 24 Feb 2012 at 12:37, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > "Dave" writes: > > Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, > > are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some > > server somewhere. > > It is public information: > > http://www.freebsd. org/doc/en_ US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff > -committers.html > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no > > Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address harvesting bots won't get anything usable. Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info, you have to re-type it manually. Most other similar websites have done that sort of thing with great success. I can't believe in this day and age, info like that is still presented in a way that makes it harvister-bot friendly. Regards. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 13:42:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B90106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE1C8FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1ODfi7C010023 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:41:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q1ODfiES010020; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:41:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:41:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-1676597965-1330090904=:47275" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:42:07 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-1676597965-1330090904=:47275 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:34:02AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 24/02/2012 09:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > Recently I started seeing this line > > > in daily security output: > > > > > > Checking negative group permissions: > > > 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq > > > > > > I've a parallel printer attached to > > > a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. > > > > > > What does it mean? > > > > This means that non-root users in group daemon have only read > > permissions on that file. Users that aren't root and that aren't in > > group daemon have execute permission only. > > > > It does look a bit odd, and I believe that file would just contain a job > > number (IIRC -- haven't dealt much with lpd or lprng much recently) > > so executing it doesn't really achieve anything. > > > > This is the standard idiom to allow access for 'everyone, except members > > of a particular group.' > > yes, I get this. > > > > One way you can get weird permissions is if you happen to use decimal > > for permissions bitmaps rather than octal. A umask of '77' is not the > > same thing at all as a umask of '077'. (It's effectively 0115, which > > doesn't make much sense to me.) Most shells nowadays will assume you > > mean octal whether you include the leading zero or not: the same is not > > true if you use umask(2) to set the mask programatically. Ditto for > > other places you can set permissions like open(2) with O_CREAT or mkdir(2). > > # umask > 0022 > # pwd > /var/spool/output/lpd > # ls -al > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:43 . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 21 12:54 lock > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 21 12:54 status > # > > Then I print something: > > % pwd | lpr > > Then this .seq file appears with weird permissions: > > # ls -al > total 10 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:46 . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 24 12:45 .seq > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 24 12:45 lock > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 24 12:45 status > # > > # cat .seq > 001 > # > > So presumably lpd(8) created this file, but I'm still > unsure why permissions are so strange. But interests > me more, is why I didn't see it until about 1-2 months > ago? Has something chaged in -current, e.g. in open(2) > like you suggest? Or has I messed up with my setup? > Or maybe it was always like this, but the security > check didn't pick it up? > > > > > > Should I be worried? > > > > No more than a normal level of paranoia is indicated here. Looking at usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c at around line 847 (RELENG_9): (void) snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s/.seq", pp->spool_dir); seteuid(euid); if ((fd = open(buf, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0661)) < 0) { printf("%s: cannot create %s\n", progname, buf); exit(1); } if (flock(fd, LOCK_EX)) { printf("%s: cannot lock %s\n", progname, buf); exit(1); } It remains a mystery why these files are created with mode 0661. Mode 0660 should be more than sufficient. Maybe it's because of flock(2), but the manpage for flock(2) does not mention the execute bit at all. The lpc enable/disable commands seem to affect only the group execute bit of the lock file. I haven't found any other source files where .seq files are created or being used. Feel free to prove me wrong. :D -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. dir. 61 14 54 39, | Office.....: +47 61 14 54 39, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-1676597965-1330090904=:47275-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:04:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226061065670 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75238FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0vkn-0001ZF-K1; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:09 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0vkn-0003ky-BT; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:09 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OE49gU008441; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:09 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1OE48AB008440; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:08 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:08 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Trond Endrest?l Message-ID: <20120224140408.GA8384@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Trond Endrest?l , Anton Shterenlikht , Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD questions References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04:20 -0000 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:41:44PM +0100, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:34:02AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On 24/02/2012 09:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > Recently I started seeing this line > > > > in daily security output: > > > > > > > > Checking negative group permissions: > > > > 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq > > > > > > > > I've a parallel printer attached to > > > > a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. > > > > > > > > What does it mean? > > > > > > This means that non-root users in group daemon have only read > > > permissions on that file. Users that aren't root and that aren't in > > > group daemon have execute permission only. > > > > > > It does look a bit odd, and I believe that file would just contain a job > > > number (IIRC -- haven't dealt much with lpd or lprng much recently) > > > so executing it doesn't really achieve anything. > > > > > > This is the standard idiom to allow access for 'everyone, except members > > > of a particular group.' > > > > yes, I get this. > > > > > > > One way you can get weird permissions is if you happen to use decimal > > > for permissions bitmaps rather than octal. A umask of '77' is not the > > > same thing at all as a umask of '077'. (It's effectively 0115, which > > > doesn't make much sense to me.) Most shells nowadays will assume you > > > mean octal whether you include the leading zero or not: the same is not > > > true if you use umask(2) to set the mask programatically. Ditto for > > > other places you can set permissions like open(2) with O_CREAT or mkdir(2). > > > > # umask > > 0022 > > # pwd > > /var/spool/output/lpd > > # ls -al > > total 8 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:43 . > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 21 12:54 lock > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 21 12:54 status > > # > > > > Then I print something: > > > > % pwd | lpr > > > > Then this .seq file appears with weird permissions: > > > > # ls -al > > total 10 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:46 . > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 24 12:45 .seq > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 24 12:45 lock > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 24 12:45 status > > # > > > > # cat .seq > > 001 > > # > > > > So presumably lpd(8) created this file, but I'm still > > unsure why permissions are so strange. But interests > > me more, is why I didn't see it until about 1-2 months > > ago? Has something chaged in -current, e.g. in open(2) > > like you suggest? Or has I messed up with my setup? > > Or maybe it was always like this, but the security > > check didn't pick it up? > > > > > > > > > Should I be worried? > > > > > > No more than a normal level of paranoia is indicated here. > > Looking at usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c at around line 847 (RELENG_9): > > (void) snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s/.seq", pp->spool_dir); > seteuid(euid); > if ((fd = open(buf, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0661)) < 0) { > printf("%s: cannot create %s\n", progname, buf); > exit(1); > } > if (flock(fd, LOCK_EX)) { > printf("%s: cannot lock %s\n", progname, buf); > exit(1); > } > > It remains a mystery why these files are created with mode 0661. Mode Isn't .seq above has mode 641? % chmod 641 z % ls -al z -rw-r----x 1 mexas wheel 0 Feb 24 13:59 z % -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:21:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2EE1065676 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA598FC1B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136675C28 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:35:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73A3C5C22 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:35:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F479BD5.6010908@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:16:53 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: , <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk>, <201202241728.19666.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> <4F4769A7.7840.55D4BD7@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4F4769A7.7840.55D4BD7@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:21:48 -0000 On 02/24/12 20:42, Dave wrote: > On 24 Feb 2012 at 17:28, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Friday 24 February 2012 17:10:21 Dave wrote: >>> Can I please request, you all check your mail client "reply to" >>> settings. >> I think, some - like me too - reply here always to all. >>> Many of the "replies" to this thread, have also been sent to the 388 >>> (was it) addresses in the original To: field, as well as the list. >> Wasn't it 389? > :-) > >>> Might the list settings need tweaking a bit? >>> >>> Also, just where did he originaly harvest all those addresses from, >>> are they publicly available, or is there a gaping hole in some >>> server somewhere. >> Just collect all addresses from the list ending with freebsd.org? >> >> Erich > Indeed, so some settings might do with a tweak, to at least obfuscate > posters addresses, so that at least script kiddies are flumoxed. Actually, they're all the addresses found in the committers section of the site. No scripting required. As I've mentioned before, I'm not sure this is a troll as such. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:26:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4DF1065673 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C813B8FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OEPrGV010514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:25:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q1OEPrG2010511; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:25:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:25:52 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20120224140408.GA8384@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120224140408.GA8384@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-565157545-1330093553=:47275" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:26:15 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-565157545-1330093553=:47275 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:41:44PM +0100, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:34:02AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > On 24/02/2012 09:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > Recently I started seeing this line > > > > > in daily security output: > > > > > > > > > > Checking negative group permissions: > > > > > 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq > > > > > > > > > > I've a parallel printer attached to > > > > > a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. > > > > > > > > > > What does it mean? > > > > > > > > This means that non-root users in group daemon have only read > > > > permissions on that file. Users that aren't root and that aren't in > > > > group daemon have execute permission only. > > > > > > > > It does look a bit odd, and I believe that file would just contain a job > > > > number (IIRC -- haven't dealt much with lpd or lprng much recently) > > > > so executing it doesn't really achieve anything. > > > > > > > > This is the standard idiom to allow access for 'everyone, except members > > > > of a particular group.' > > > > > > yes, I get this. > > > > > > > > > > One way you can get weird permissions is if you happen to use decimal > > > > for permissions bitmaps rather than octal. A umask of '77' is not the > > > > same thing at all as a umask of '077'. (It's effectively 0115, which > > > > doesn't make much sense to me.) Most shells nowadays will assume you > > > > mean octal whether you include the leading zero or not: the same is not > > > > true if you use umask(2) to set the mask programatically. Ditto for > > > > other places you can set permissions like open(2) with O_CREAT or mkdir(2). > > > > > > # umask > > > 0022 > > > # pwd > > > /var/spool/output/lpd > > > # ls -al > > > total 8 > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:43 . > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 21 12:54 lock > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 21 12:54 status > > > # > > > > > > Then I print something: > > > > > > % pwd | lpr > > > > > > Then this .seq file appears with weird permissions: > > > > > > # ls -al > > > total 10 > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:46 . > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > > -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 24 12:45 .seq > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 24 12:45 lock > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 24 12:45 status > > > # > > > > > > # cat .seq > > > 001 > > > # > > > > > > So presumably lpd(8) created this file, but I'm still > > > unsure why permissions are so strange. But interests > > > me more, is why I didn't see it until about 1-2 months > > > ago? Has something chaged in -current, e.g. in open(2) > > > like you suggest? Or has I messed up with my setup? > > > Or maybe it was always like this, but the security > > > check didn't pick it up? > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > No more than a normal level of paranoia is indicated here. > > > > Looking at usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c at around line 847 (RELENG_9): > > > > (void) snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s/.seq", pp->spool_dir); > > seteuid(euid); > > if ((fd = open(buf, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0661)) < 0) { > > printf("%s: cannot create %s\n", progname, buf); > > exit(1); > > } > > if (flock(fd, LOCK_EX)) { > > printf("%s: cannot lock %s\n", progname, buf); > > exit(1); > > } > > > > It remains a mystery why these files are created with mode 0661. Mode > > Isn't .seq above has mode 641? > > % chmod 641 z > % ls -al z > -rw-r----x 1 mexas wheel 0 Feb 24 13:59 z > % It sure is, in all cases quoted above. All handling of the .seq files seems to be contained within the mktemps() function of usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c. The call to open(2) with the mode set to 0661 has been there since CVS revision 1.1 of usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c?annotate=1.45.2.1.2.1 No calls to chmod(2) of the .seq files anywhere else, as far as I can tell. I usually keep tight permissions on the spool directories, mode 0770. It's still a mystery. Thus it's time to bring in people with more knowledge on lpr and friends. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. dir. 61 14 54 39, | Office.....: +47 61 14 54 39, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-565157545-1330093553=:47275-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:44:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9381065689 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C728FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1335C28; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:58:05 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72C4F5C22; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:58:05 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F47A130.4000008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:39:44 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arthur Chance References: <201202231901.q1NJ1D4g043370@fire.js.berklix.net> <4F46C3CC.3050703@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F476FC4.9060401@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <4F476FC4.9060401@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMTP error: 552 5.6.0 Headers too large (32768 max) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:44:39 -0000 On 02/24/12 21:08, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 02/23/12 22:55, Da Rock wrote: >> On 02/24/12 05:01, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>> Arthur Chance wrote: >>>> DO NOT FEED THE TROLL! >>> Well spotted& said :-) > > [snip] > >> However misguided they are, they may believe strongly in this; so I'm >> not sure there is a troll per se. >> >> The evidence is that they have only targeted freebsd.org addresses, and >> only the questions list. If they were trolling, why not include all the >> other lists? > > A reasonable question but the discrepancies between > > > My name is Roy Mathew. > > and > > > From: Al Hadith > > seem a typical indication of a troll. The sometimes mangled English > after claiming an Anglo-Saxon name and the non sequitur final line > also suggest troll. Finally, as far as I understand it, many followers > of Islam would find the use of "Al Hadith" as an adopted name to be > provocative. Yes, the OP may be a genuine seeker after truth, but my > money's on troll. Agreed. But something doesn't smell right... The name, the address, the introduced name, the Islamic connotations; weird. The english sounded like some english teenagers, so thats no clue. The islamic name and the claim that the icon was offensive is the only aspect of this email that could ring true. There is more to this than meets the eye here, I'd say. Seeker of truth? Doubt it... no offense to those of the islamic (or others as well - christian specifically included) persuasion at all - this directed at the originator of the message, but truth is a matter of perspective. The sooner _all_ get that, the sooner life can move on and gain stability. This is just to clarify my comment - not to start a flame or further digression. Leave it alone and wait and see if nothing further happens... then we'll know whats what. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:47:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7AF106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF038FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033175C28 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:01:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98BC45C2D for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:01:06 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F47A1E6.8070705@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:42:46 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201202241207.q1OC75HG062038@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201202241207.q1OC75HG062038@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Converting C++ to C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:47:40 -0000 On 02/24/12 22:07, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> Some early implementations of C++ operated as preprocessors >> that emitted C code. Is there any current tool that will do >> that? I didn't recognize any such option in the g++ manpage, >> although I suppose it's possible that one of the -fdump-tree- >> options would come close enough. >> >> Reason: I want to make what I think would be a fairly minor >> change to a small (1100-line) C++ program, but I don't know C++ >> -- only C -- and I don't understand the program well enough >> to mess with it. I suspect I would be able to figure out an >> equivalent C program. >> >> In case it matters, I'm using FreeBSD 8.1. > One of the lists recently (maybe 2/3 weeks ago) carried a thread > listing many C compilers past& present. It started by discussing > Clang V. GCC I can't remember which list, I don't think it was > questions@ maybe hackers@ or current@. Questions. I started it... :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:49:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DEA106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838578FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0wS1-0002QT-De; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:48:59 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0wRe-0005mt-Tt; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:48:26 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OEmQW1004210; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:48:26 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q1OEmQmk004187; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:48:26 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:48:26 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Trond Endrest?l Message-ID: <20120224144826.GA72595@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Trond Endrest?l , Anton Shterenlikht , FreeBSD questions References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120224140408.GA8384@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:49:06 -0000 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 03:25:52PM +0100, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:41:44PM +0100, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:34:02AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > > On 24/02/2012 09:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > > Recently I started seeing this line > > > > > > in daily security output: > > > > > > > > > > > > Checking negative group permissions: > > > > > > 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a parallel printer attached to > > > > > > a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > This means that non-root users in group daemon have only read > > > > > permissions on that file. Users that aren't root and that aren't in > > > > > group daemon have execute permission only. > > > > > > > > > > It does look a bit odd, and I believe that file would just contain a job > > > > > number (IIRC -- haven't dealt much with lpd or lprng much recently) > > > > > so executing it doesn't really achieve anything. > > > > > > > > > > This is the standard idiom to allow access for 'everyone, except members > > > > > of a particular group.' > > > > > > > > yes, I get this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > One way you can get weird permissions is if you happen to use decimal > > > > > for permissions bitmaps rather than octal. A umask of '77' is not the > > > > > same thing at all as a umask of '077'. (It's effectively 0115, which > > > > > doesn't make much sense to me.) Most shells nowadays will assume you > > > > > mean octal whether you include the leading zero or not: the same is not > > > > > true if you use umask(2) to set the mask programatically. Ditto for > > > > > other places you can set permissions like open(2) with O_CREAT or mkdir(2). > > > > > > > > # umask > > > > 0022 > > > > # pwd > > > > /var/spool/output/lpd > > > > # ls -al > > > > total 8 > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:43 . > > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 21 12:54 lock > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 21 12:54 status > > > > # > > > > > > > > Then I print something: > > > > > > > > % pwd | lpr > > > > > > > > Then this .seq file appears with weird permissions: > > > > > > > > # ls -al > > > > total 10 > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:46 . > > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > > > -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 24 12:45 .seq > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 24 12:45 lock > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 24 12:45 status > > > > # > > > > > > > > # cat .seq > > > > 001 > > > > # > > > > > > > > So presumably lpd(8) created this file, but I'm still > > > > unsure why permissions are so strange. But interests > > > > me more, is why I didn't see it until about 1-2 months > > > > ago? Has something chaged in -current, e.g. in open(2) > > > > like you suggest? Or has I messed up with my setup? > > > > Or maybe it was always like this, but the security > > > > check didn't pick it up? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > > > No more than a normal level of paranoia is indicated here. > > > > > > Looking at usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c at around line 847 (RELENG_9): > > > > > > (void) snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s/.seq", pp->spool_dir); > > > seteuid(euid); > > > if ((fd = open(buf, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0661)) < 0) { > > > printf("%s: cannot create %s\n", progname, buf); > > > exit(1); > > > } > > > if (flock(fd, LOCK_EX)) { > > > printf("%s: cannot lock %s\n", progname, buf); > > > exit(1); > > > } > > > > > > It remains a mystery why these files are created with mode 0661. Mode > > > > Isn't .seq above has mode 641? > > > > % chmod 641 z > > % ls -al z > > -rw-r----x 1 mexas wheel 0 Feb 24 13:59 z > > % > > It sure is, in all cases quoted above. > > All handling of the .seq files seems to be contained within the > mktemps() function of usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c. > > The call to open(2) with the mode set to 0661 has been there since CVS > revision 1.1 of usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c, see > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c?annotate=1.45.2.1.2.1 > > No calls to chmod(2) of the .seq files anywhere else, as far as I can > tell. > > I usually keep tight permissions on the spool directories, mode 0770. It seems I need 755, otherwise dialer and smmsp will not have access: # ls -al /var/spool/ total 28 drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Nov 21 2009 . drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 512 Jan 31 02:03 .. drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 512 Feb 24 03:39 clientmqueue drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Jan 31 02:04 lock drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Nov 21 2009 lpd drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 14336 Feb 24 03:40 mqueue drwx------ 2 root daemon 512 Nov 21 2009 opielocks drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 output # > > It's still a mystery. Thus it's time to bring in people with more > knowledge on lpr and friends. sure -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:50:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73DC106566B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8840C8FC15 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE565C28 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:04:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F44D5C22 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:04:02 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F47A295.6020200@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:45:41 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0, Samba and two NICs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:50:35 -0000 On 02/24/12 21:39, Ronny Mandal wrote: > Hi! > > I have been running Samba on FreeBSD 9.0 with a wireless card. A share > is connected to my W7 computer. To get more speed between the > computers, I decided to activate the 1GBit- Ethernet on the FreeBSD > and establish a direct connection (cross-link) to the W7. I gave the > new connection a static IP/subnet: 10.0.0.2/255.0.0.0 for the FreeBSD > and 10.0.0.1/255.0.0.0 for the W7. SSH works fine, however Samba is > utilizing the wireless card. > > My smb.conf looks something like this: > > .. > ;The 192-address is the wireless, ath0. 10.0.0.2 is age0 > interfaces = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.232 10.0.0.2 > bind interfaces only = yes > ; the two latter is the IPs of the W7 > hosts allow = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.117 10.0.0.1 > > > If I remove the 192* in the hosts allow, my W7 looses access via smb. > > netstat tells me that it is listening to both interfaces. > > What might be wrong? What address is the w7 using? If it is using 192.X, that could be the problem. That or some variation... such as the w7 using wireless and 192.x? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 15:33:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8B7106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DAE8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OFXLo9096863; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:33:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q1OFXLTM096860; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:33:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:33:21 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Omer Faruk SEN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:33:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:33:22 -0000 On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > Already done that but still habe the same issue. I can dd and sysctl but > after installing without using W at disk label screen still no luck. I have > also done > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 on fixit and restarted installation but > still getting the same error. [Please don't top-post, it makes responding more difficult.] >> If you need to clear the old MBR the "old way", use a LiveFS or Fixit shell >> and do this (as root): >> >> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 The sysctl is not necessary. The dd may not erase enough of the disk. It will erase a bsdlabel, but not the MBR/PMBR. As always, be warned that this will erase the partition table on that disk, so make sure it's the correct target disk and that you have full backups: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adX bs=512 count=34 Replace X with the correct drive number. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 15:37:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4A61065670 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FF78FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OFaAMK098051 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:36:10 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1OFaAMK098051 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1330097770; bh=c5u4FIvVIHBNcs9L5j41fcckwLFeAzg8OLuqEhN9P7o=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=xlPXIxYHURuD2iVGA4spBXYrPId46PrLKJlNWxGSS/Kp/Ne5HmAK1wo1PVdrUhD2K kctdfiqVp/mgC4mSw4AiN7zEvD/5VgNTdwAV2IRwRprDk/q8tSw3na5QzHU6YlHXpp LmOtruYFEutWMsEEDk8IC9oSQm6P+QnzNtL4XRIc= Message-ID: <4F47AE59.3090305@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:35:53 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trond Endrest?l , Anton Shterenlikht , FreeBSD questions References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120224140408.GA8384@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120224140408.GA8384@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEC6EDE06532514B2F5A15901" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:37:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEC6EDE06532514B2F5A15901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/02/2012 14:04, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> Looking at usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c at around line 847 (RELENG_9): >> >=20 >> > (void) snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s/.seq", pp->spool_dir);= >> > seteuid(euid); >> > if ((fd =3D open(buf, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0661)) < 0) { >> > printf("%s: cannot create %s\n", progname, buf); >> > exit(1); >> > } >> > if (flock(fd, LOCK_EX)) { >> > printf("%s: cannot lock %s\n", progname, buf); >> > exit(1); >> > } >> >=20 >> > It remains a mystery why these files are created with mode 0661. Mod= e=20 > Isn't .seq above has mode 641? >=20 > % chmod 641 z > % ls -al z > -rw-r----x 1 mexas wheel 0 Feb 24 13:59 z > % A umask setting of 022 would explain that. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigEC6EDE06532514B2F5A15901 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9HrmkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyqxACfV7WFbNn7R1UWCwYYIsYfLwJK 4icAnigJUj7sCJD7uaDVis2ckqtIJiXK =dFs6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEC6EDE06532514B2F5A15901-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 15:56:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FFD106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB6A8FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0xVk-0006BR-OX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:56:45 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:56:44 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:56:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 6 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: mount options display (detailed) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:56:48 -0000 Hi, how can I display detailed mount options, e.g. rw, async, acls, atime, ... This regarding local fs or NFS. 'mount' does not do that. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 16:08:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEFD1065680 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EC58FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OG8YFD099054 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:08:34 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1OG8YFD099054 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1330099714; bh=7lXOI4Z7PVEyj1goTGgeBk/PESM+2pX8MyM0+O/JBeI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=xW2WJOYrsE4mMeQr9VlrmWvgnnn5YeRzi07Z7oVwsBDAat67Mbe7VnPTfswViuOHV q/ruwBHcqVJNGleoJA/5jbKUsGPLWS8wZt5OIzmsfWXkdVQbAaYQ8s7+Y02bIzx8Of BIoj6pjLBKwOMadrpS4gV+S/qyszmSJA/9HroIfM= Message-ID: <4F47B5FB.2000307@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:08:27 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2118CCCBB773E7ABE8ABC6B4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: mount options display (detailed) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:08:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2118CCCBB773E7ABE8ABC6B4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/02/2012 15:56, jb wrote: > how can I display detailed mount options, e.g. rw, async, acls, atime, = =2E.. > This regarding local fs or NFS. > 'mount' does not do that. mount -p This is actually something you could in theory have worked out from the mount(8) man page, so long as you knew what 'fstab format' meant. Perhaps that page could do with a little editing so that it doesn't assume so much prior knowledge of its readers. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2118CCCBB773E7ABE8ABC6B4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9HtgIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwWvACdEQxYP1doMOQ2P79ocEOXk6FV auoAnR1nw6fKzkw4AlY1b/Fa6pfkQ4oN =TPz4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2118CCCBB773E7ABE8ABC6B4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 17:57:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F81106567D for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8198FC2B for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdq11 with SMTP id dq11so2296079wgb.31 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.131.234; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alexus@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alexus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alexus@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.131.234]) by 10.216.131.234 with SMTP id m84mr2159167wei.24.1330106235941 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:57:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T8w+BcGsAR1m1vEYQ/AQgCwgesvPlp8XSpVf05MkBcc=; b=xCbYmpVvIWpUFo3v8s79Zbo6rmz2viw2cTincubw8RutojGCytsK64NPIRto8QJjKr QDgjZ1/+cTZ1qQdeZrK+qTwJ92DJIHOFnVclIeT67ajXRztSnNZxfPdMKTgfkXsHpb+T wnmS5z2BYHrzYkx1XKVc2+9iLWs3zwJXcuYOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.131.234 with SMTP id m84mr1764105wei.24.1330106235867; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.186.141 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:57:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:57:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:57:17 -0000 I can't install phpMyAdmin on my FreeBSD-9.0 wx3# pkg_add -r phpMyAdmin Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/Latest/phpMyAdmin.tbz... Done. Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pdflib-7.0.4.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pecl-pdflib-2.1.8.tbz... Done. pkg_add: could not find package pdflib-7.0.4 ! pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'pecl-pdflib-2.1.8' failed! wx3# -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 18:11:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D35106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9F48FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S0zbg-0004W7-7s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:11:00 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:11:00 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:11:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:11:03 -0500 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:11:02 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > >> Already done that but still habe the same issue. I can dd and sysctl but >> after installing without using W at disk label screen still no luck. I >> have also done >> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 on fixit and restarted installation but >> still getting the same error. > > [Please don't top-post, it makes responding more difficult.] > >>> If you need to clear the old MBR the "old way", use a LiveFS or Fixit >>> shell and do this (as root): >>> >>> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: >>> >>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > The sysctl is not necessary. The dd may not erase enough of the disk. > It will erase a bsdlabel, but not the MBR/PMBR. As always, be warned > that this will erase the partition table on that disk, so make sure it's > the correct target disk and that you have full backups: > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adX bs=512 count=34 ^^^^^^^^ Excellent idea here. It covers GPT too, for as if a Linux distro was on the disk previously, or anything else using GPT. For me I only needed the one because my problem was only a change from FBSD 6.2 to 7.x something, no GPT involved - my problem was only disklabel related. > Replace X with the correct drive number. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 18:15:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBA6106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134C28FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF1CD.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.241.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q1OIEwZt069879 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:14:59 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1OIEfjr072135 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:14:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1OIEab1001576 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:14:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201202241814.q1OIEab1001576@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:44:52 +0700." <201202241944.53699.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:14:36 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:15:02 -0000 > > cm = 1") diameter, pack of 2. Pick one up & it feels like an outer > > stainless steel shell, connected by springs to an inner weight. > > Reflex was to want to saw it apart to see what was inside, & how > > they assembled the 2 halves. I suppose spot welding, then circular > > rim welding, then polishing then stainless steel finish ? > > I also wanted to do the same too but I never did. I have no idea how they are really manufactured. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_wa_balls Has nothing on welding/ manufacturing, just usage. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 18:25:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA67810656D1 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2156A8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1OIOurV029777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:24:56 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1OIOurV029777 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1330107896; bh=N9z/nta1KuE2YBGmJzlh+sGJdpWCvUY4iNy9KEY3l98=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=Zg5AqgnhuWB6WiggE8mAglGHs7cqQ+JXnO3yxqV24YSXk0LUhVT7gxyxn9HY6Hvhg bD3lqKBiS6+CQ1EKWDpiRBt3QZCor6gwsMyzKXPQpyBNnYyCZYKBuqVOhOXZQNOcqz qJp1OAiS5OWcYn0u7evQJGPiekccmnMVpsqCYVMw= Message-ID: <4F47D5F2.6070801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:24:50 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEF3403D942E2CB7D4100EC8B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:25:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEF3403D942E2CB7D4100EC8B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/02/2012 17:57, alexus wrote: > I can't install phpMyAdmin on my FreeBSD-9.0 >=20 > wx3# pkg_add -r phpMyAdmin > Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-rel= ease/Latest/phpMyAdmin.tbz... > Done. > Error: Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/= pdflib-7.0.4.tbz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-rel= ease/All/pecl-pdflib-2.1.8.tbz... > Done. > pkg_add: could not find package pdflib-7.0.4 ! > pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'pecl-pdflib-2.1.8' failed! > wx3# That's because print/pdflib has this statement in the port: RESTRICTED=3D many odd restrictions on usage and distribution which means packages for that port may not be available. Two options I can suggest: i) Install print/pdflib from ports -- everything else can come from packages, but pdflib is just painful and the licensing forces you to build from source. ii) Install phpmyadmin from ports, changing the options to turn off usage of pdflib. You won't be able to export stuff like DB schema to PDF files, but the rest of phpmyadmin's functionality will be there. Note: as phpmyadmin is pure PHP code, installing the port is just a matter of copying the files into place: hardly any difference to installing via package. Why can't pdflib just use a standard opensource license that eveyone knows how to deal with? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigEF3403D942E2CB7D4100EC8B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9H1fcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwehACfZp290NVrtKdXOMg0J1yWIBd/ sF8An3Tac4jSHnh1xxenXIAmebluUE+a =6Myi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEF3403D942E2CB7D4100EC8B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 18:31:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC77D1065672 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8718FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so4391597iae.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.88.161 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.88.161; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jkikpole@cairodurham.org designates 10.50.88.161 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jkikpole@cairodurham.org Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.88.161]) by 10.50.88.161 with SMTP id bh1mr5869032igb.4.1330108267923 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.88.161 with SMTP id bh1mr4612018igb.4.1330108267785; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.20.158 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:31:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F4667BF.9030507@wp.pl> References: <4F451A7F.6070200@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4F4667BF.9030507@wp.pl> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jaime Kikpole To: Ireneusz Pluta Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmr7fy5P8ZBnAkOCZ4fHIJRrcPEce7t/0njRfPjx6vmhbjfspAdCEPxRKPMMh8sB4N3FniI Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: CPAN hanging on ExtUtils::MakeMaker even if installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:31:08 -0000 I want to thank everyone who helped me out. I can confirm that the original issue (infinite delay and 100% CPU use while installing ExtUtils::MakeMaker from CPAN) is gone after upgrading to Perl 5.12. For some reason, the upgrade to 5.14 didn't work. Using "portupgrade -o lang/perl-5.14 perl-5.8.9" (or something similar, but I can't remember it now) just reinstalled Perl 5.8. Using "portupgrade -o lang/perl-5.12 perl-5.8.9" (or something similar) did work, though. I ended up using the www/rt40 port. Its nice to know that someone is putting in the effort on a port. Thanks to Matthew for that. And now I'm back to upgrading security/amavisd-new and mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin and other Perl based ports. :) I'm really glad that portupgrade exists on FreeBSD. Thanks all! Jaime -- Network Administrator Cairo-Durham Central School District http://cns.cairodurham.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 19:13:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D33106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D038FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q1OJDWLp052080 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:13:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:13:32 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201202241913.q1OJDWLp052080@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201202241207.q1OC75HG062038@fire.js.berklix.net> Subject: Re: Converting C++ to C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:13:02 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote; > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Reason: I want to make what I think would be a fairly minor > > change to a small (1100-line) C++ program, but I don't know C++ > > -- only C -- and I don't understand the program well enough > > to mess with it. I suspect I would be able to figure out an > > equivalent C program. > > > > In case it matters, I'm using FreeBSD 8.1. > > One of the lists recently (maybe 2/3 weeks ago) carried a thread > listing many C compilers past & present. It started by discussing > Clang V. GCC I can't remember which list, I don't think it was > questions@ maybe hackers@ or current@. There _was_ a recent discussion on 'questions' -- I'm the 'guilty party' responsible for naming a lot of the 'historical' ones. That aside, for the OP: C code generated from C++ will _not_ be very readable. Basically, -everything- in C++ would get turned into a function invocation in the generated C. With the _name_ of each such function having an encoded representation of the type of each argument to that function (see 'function name mangling). And the "simple" elementary data types tend to end up as something like: "**struct foo {bar value; (*(**struct foo)baz())[];}". Some of the mayhem: _everything_ is 'double indirect' pointers, to support run-time automatic garbage collection; 'methods' of acting on data elements are pointers to functions, embedded in the data-element structure, even basic 'four function calculator' arithmetic ops (they can be 'overlaid' to do differnt things on different data types -- the '+' operator may mean 'concatenation' when applied to two strings, or '+=' maay mean 'append item to list, in the contest of 'list += item', even though both would *still* mean 'addition' when used with numeric items.) One would be far better off spending some time to learn the basics of C++ syntax -- to be able to 'read' the existing code and understand what it's doing. After that, if what you want to modiy -is- truely a 'minor' change, adding some 'C-tyee' code to implement it is probably not that bad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 21:24:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EC610656D0 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B728F8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so781231qcs.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of omerfsen@gmail.com designates 10.229.114.210 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.229.114.210; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of omerfsen@gmail.com designates 10.229.114.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=omerfsen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=omerfsen@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.229.114.210]) by 10.229.114.210 with SMTP id f18mr3114159qcq.54.1330118659353 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:24:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=uoauJ5EHxFV/HchBxG1nuAAbfQoPOMmVkGar90evhI8=; b=mUscwJP+4fcjrI+c+7df0gaZKqObcMEk/J6iw++s2SD1Q5DMRpAZJJp8bVJ3FQ/VTC 85kW3YMTWsquORY49nNagp/7a49RwZIRyfWpgiMJGSDSs108eOy7nM8AjplRmzcs0YQP r07mcxwEY1gza/ySmn39EVrYWYS/nGS/itfBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.114.210 with SMTP id f18mr2586339qcq.54.1330118659066; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.24.81 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:24:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:24:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: Omer Faruk SEN To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.3-BETA1 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:24:20 -0000 I have done a simple dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 count=100 bs=1m which i think covers all. But still no luck. Regards. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > > > >> Already done that but still habe the same issue. I can dd and sysctl but > >> after installing without using W at disk label screen still no luck. I > >> have also done > >> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 on fixit and restarted installation but > >> still getting the same error. > > > > [Please don't top-post, it makes responding more difficult.] > > > >>> If you need to clear the old MBR the "old way", use a LiveFS or Fixit > >>> shell and do this (as root): > >>> > >>> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: > >>> > >>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > > > The sysctl is not necessary. The dd may not erase enough of the disk. > > It will erase a bsdlabel, but not the MBR/PMBR. As always, be warned > > that this will erase the partition table on that disk, so make sure it's > > the correct target disk and that you have full backups: > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adX bs=512 count=34 > > ^^^^^^^^ > Excellent idea here. It covers GPT too, for as if a Linux distro was on the > disk previously, or anything else using GPT. For me I only needed the one > because my problem was only a change from FBSD 6.2 to 7.x something, > no GPT involved - my problem was only disklabel related. > > > Replace X with the correct drive number. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 22:09:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333D3106564A for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5DD8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 1D4CF180ED5; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:51:55 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D23C180ECF for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B88AB18914 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 24 Feb 2012 16:52:45 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 x-vipre-scanned: 01BA3F68002D4201BA40B5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:52:43 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure Thread-Index: AczzPYuDF2Ixtma/Tm2zIkipOa9vdw== From: "Bender, Chris" To: X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33012-47614) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:09:30 -0000 Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about. Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to send to another machine. The senmail locally looks to deliver email to a que and the que looks= to forward to another machine. =20 However this looks to break.....Can somebody help me diagnose and repair. =20 It may be the remote machine never gets the email and thusly never delivers the email.=20 =20 Here is local machine response to my sending the following command.... =20 echo "test email from ccl `date` " | mailx -s "test email from ccl `date` " c.b@cell.com =20 The que message show the following.. =20 Running /var/spool/mqueue/q1OKcmpH017170 (sequence 1 of 20) ... Connecting to tools.wms.cellularatsea.com. via relay... ... Deferred: Connection timed out with tools.wms.cell.com. =20 =20 I can ping this machine via=20 ping tools =20 Is there supposed to be some type of handler on tools to accept messages. How would I know if it were postfix or sendmail? Is this possible to be on remote machine.=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 CB =20 Thanks =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 22:22:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40B61065672 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D138FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (ltcfislmsgpa07 [127.0.0.1]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q1OLUKVH021865 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:22:38 -0600 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com with ESMTP id 136jh1g5k9-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:22:38 -0600 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.62) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:22:37 -0600 Message-ID: <4F480DAC.3000806@fisglobal.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:22:36 -0800 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: In-Reply-To: X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.62] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7498, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-02-24_07:2012-02-24, 2012-02-24, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:22:39 -0000 On 02/24/2012 13:52, Bender, Chris wrote: > Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about. > > Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to > send to another machine. > > The senmail locally looks to deliver email to a que and the que looks to > forward to another machine. > > > > However this looks to break.....Can somebody help me diagnose and > repair. > > > > It may be the remote machine never gets the email and thusly never > delivers the email. > > > > Here is local machine response to my sending the following command.... > > > > echo "test email from ccl `date` " | mailx -s "test email from ccl > `date` " c.b@cell.com > > > > The que message show the following.. > > > > Running /var/spool/mqueue/q1OKcmpH017170 (sequence 1 of 20) > > ... Connecting to tools.wms.cellularatsea.com. via > relay... > > ... Deferred: Connection timed out with > tools.wms.cell.com. > > > > > > I can ping this machine via > > ping tools > > > > Is there supposed to be some type of handler on tools to accept > messages. How would I know if it were postfix or sendmail? > > Is this possible to be on remote machine. > > > > > > > > > > > > CB > > > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > telnet remote_machine 25 does it connect to a mailer daemon? -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 00:51:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF32E106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1128FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1P0pEhR077128; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:51:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: "Robison, Dave" In-Reply-To: <4F480DAC.3000806@fisglobal.com> Message-ID: References: <4F480DAC.3000806@fisglobal.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:51:22 -0000 On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Robison, Dave wrote: > On 02/24/2012 13:52, Bender, Chris wrote: >> >> Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to >> send to another machine. ...snip... >> echo "test email from ccl `date` " | mailx -s "test email from ccl >> `date` " c.b@cell.com >> >> The que message show the following.. >> >> Running /var/spool/mqueue/q1OKcmpH017170 (sequence 1 of 20) >> >> ... Connecting to tools.wms.cellularatsea.com. via >> relay... >> >> ... Deferred: Connection timed out with >> tools.wms.cell.com. >> >> I can ping this machine via >> >> ping tools >> >> Is there supposed to be some type of handler on tools to accept >> messages. How would I know if it were postfix or sendmail? > telnet remote_machine 25 > > does it connect to a mailer daemon? How you would know: You should see something like this: $ telnet remote_machine 25 Trying 192.168.1.1... Connected to remote_machine.mydomain.com Escape character is '^]'. 220 remote_machine.mydomain.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.3/8.14.3; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:44:05 -0500 (EST) Note the 'Sendmail'. I don't have a postfix server handy, but presumably it would not emit the S word. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 01:21:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D1C10656EF for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FF08FC18 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q1P1L0Vi077193; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:21:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:21:00 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4F47B5FB.2000307@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <4F47B5FB.2000307@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount options display (detailed) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:21:05 -0000 On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/02/2012 15:56, jb wrote: >> how can I display detailed mount options, e.g. rw, async, acls, atime, ... >> This regarding local fs or NFS. >> 'mount' does not do that. > > mount -p > > This is actually something you could in theory have worked out from the > mount(8) man page, so long as you knew what 'fstab format' meant. > Perhaps that page could do with a little editing so that it doesn't > assume so much prior knowledge of its readers. >From the man page: -p Print mount information in fstab(5) format. Implies also the -v option. 'mount -p' shows me something that looks a lot like my own /etc/fstab. It appears to be showing me what's mounted right now, but it does not display any mount options. This is on 8.0-STABLE; maybe things have changed in the Brave New World of Nine. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 02:03:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A388106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3108FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so2657250wer.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gull@gull.us designates 10.181.11.227 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.181.11.227; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gull@gull.us designates 10.181.11.227 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gull@gull.us Received: from mr.google.com ([10.181.11.227]) by 10.181.11.227 with SMTP id el3mr9771452wid.18.1330135395862 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:03:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.11.227 with SMTP id el3mr7827674wid.18.1330135395798; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.78.138 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:03:15 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.221] In-Reply-To: <4F478D8B.31307.5E97C34@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> References: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4F478D8B.31307.5E97C34@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:03:15 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQle191ZTOi1MonADdl7RHHcnd/Uwq1WwAZy/AVvtfpQgbEDTvimfF+uhunrJrXf71cNq/gR Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:03:17 -0000 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Dave wrote: > Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address > harvesting bots won't get anything usable. > > Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info, > you have to re-type it manually. I really don't recommend that. Keep in mind not everyone can use the "Mk1 eyeball." Websites need to be accessible to blind people using screen reader software, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 02:16:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5541065673 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cybernautape@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2BE8FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so4992157lag.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:16:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cybernautape@gmail.com designates 10.112.9.40 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.9.40; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cybernautape@gmail.com designates 10.112.9.40 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cybernautape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=cybernautape@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.9.40]) by 10.112.9.40 with SMTP id w8mr1859127lba.103.1330136189887 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:16:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=jUYHOjNwJJ7khstLCzj1O/aKnka3Y0lumdcXJ9gu5zE=; b=wV8mJnX261NRNcbI/dPFAfaQooGjoVzydFoqtaFWkthtfG9Micmdlf/MpGmdhq0yNo MWA89WqrXsX9v40Y/xVsOHq6sPI5QXShq5Y9AkSo4/cf/3iT1IXnyzcCpf13JOmOdT/M nywJbXNW+JAxPaMh2JHtyaeVmN8qc+1Yg+2fc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.9.40 with SMTP id w8mr1496410lba.103.1330134325727; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.13.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:45:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:45:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Edgar Rodolfo To: alexus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:16:31 -0000 2012/2/24, alexus : > I can't install phpMyAdmin on my FreeBSD-9.0 > > wx3# pkg_add -r phpMyAdmin > Fetching > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/Latest/phpMyAdmin.tbz... > Done. > Error: Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pdflib-7.0.4.tbz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > Fetching > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.0-release/All/pecl-pdflib-2.1.8.tbz... > Done. > pkg_add: could not find package pdflib-7.0.4 ! > pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'pecl-pdflib-2.1.8' failed! > wx3# > Hello, you can install phpmyadmin using .tar.gz, download the .tar.gz then put it in the path of your web server and use it, is very easy, you need: php, mysql, phpmysqli, php-mbstring, is enough http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/downloads.php > > > -- > http://alexus.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Edguitar ;) http://espejobinario.blogspot.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 04:32:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637341065672 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FC38FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (bell.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.40]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFBE5C28 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:46:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F258B5C22 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:46:05 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F486340.7040907@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:27:44 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4F478D8B.31307.5E97C34@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:32:39 -0000 On 02/25/12 12:03, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Dave wrote: >> Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address >> harvesting bots won't get anything usable. >> >> Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info, >> you have to re-type it manually. > I really don't recommend that. Keep in mind not everyone can use the > "Mk1 eyeball." Websites need to be accessible to blind people using > screen reader software, too. And therein lies the problem. How do you maintain accessibility while preventing bots from harvesting? You can't have your cake and eat it too... :) Only solution lies in a security gate of good filters and blocklists. But occasionally one or two will still pass. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 07:00:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51595106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifexor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187788FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcwo16 with SMTP id wo16so4783825obc.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of artifexor@gmail.com designates 10.60.21.38 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.60.21.38; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of artifexor@gmail.com designates 10.60.21.38 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=artifexor@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=artifexor@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.60.21.38]) by 10.60.21.38 with SMTP id s6mr2253711oee.50.1330153251687 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:00:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=38wjWZijGB4/BCMEkrIiUGKsYoT75Kq3Ab7HF2RfWtg=; b=G0txczzg2duWxB424pptbgy4ms/DdewacVV1bCwURYkEamHEpm6omwUpPidnbiBHvQ ElcAfpuglKB9QCYttykdOIeXmTUBw+K0V5FaimPkuwbJJAguadyygpfp39C66RrJawql cv9354NTofc9hlqEhPI+i340CMq9rNvZ9ULpk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.21.38 with SMTP id s6mr1942386oee.50.1330151619189; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.15.161 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:33:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:33:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: Artifex Maximus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: clang vs gcc linking problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:00:52 -0000 Hello! Absolutely not a flame war but would like to switch to clang in a project. Project uses ncurses. gcc works well but the executable fails when compiled other than -O0. Then I think I should change to clang which will becomes the default compiler in FreeBSD. With clang at linking time I got the following error: /usr/local/bin/ld: display/libsub_display.a(canvas.o): undefined reference to symbol 'keypad' /usr/local/bin/ld: note: 'keypad' is defined in DSO /usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.6.0 so try adding it to the linker command line /usr/local/lib/libtinfow.so.6.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) *** Error code 1 With exactly the same flags gcc links successful. Any idea where is the problem and what is the solution? Thanks, a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 07:38:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC75106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D808FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1P7c1r5027670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:38:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q1P7c1QB027667; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:38:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:38:00 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20120224144826.GA72595@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <20120224090848.GA28104@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4F47598A.9080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120224125430.GB8026@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120224140408.GA8384@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120224144826.GA72595@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-2137972197-1330155481=:47275" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: negative group permissions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:38:25 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-2137972197-1330155481=:47275 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:48-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 03:25:52PM +0100, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:04-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:41:44PM +0100, Trond Endrest?l wrote: > > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:54-0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:34:02AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > > > On 24/02/2012 09:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > > > Recently I started seeing this line > > > > > > > in daily security output: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checking negative group permissions: > > > > > > > 70834 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 21 12:54:02 2012 /var/spool/output/lpd/.seq > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've a parallel printer attached to > > > > > > > a 9.9-CURRENT #2 r230787M box. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does it mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > This means that non-root users in group daemon have only read > > > > > > permissions on that file. Users that aren't root and that aren't in > > > > > > group daemon have execute permission only. > > > > > > > > > > > > It does look a bit odd, and I believe that file would just contain a job > > > > > > number (IIRC -- haven't dealt much with lpd or lprng much recently) > > > > > > so executing it doesn't really achieve anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the standard idiom to allow access for 'everyone, except members > > > > > > of a particular group.' > > > > > > > > > > yes, I get this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One way you can get weird permissions is if you happen to use decimal > > > > > > for permissions bitmaps rather than octal. A umask of '77' is not the > > > > > > same thing at all as a umask of '077'. (It's effectively 0115, which > > > > > > doesn't make much sense to me.) Most shells nowadays will assume you > > > > > > mean octal whether you include the leading zero or not: the same is not > > > > > > true if you use umask(2) to set the mask programatically. Ditto for > > > > > > other places you can set permissions like open(2) with O_CREAT or mkdir(2). > > > > > > > > > > # umask > > > > > 0022 > > > > > # pwd > > > > > /var/spool/output/lpd > > > > > # ls -al > > > > > total 8 > > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:43 . > > > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 21 12:54 lock > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 21 12:54 status > > > > > # > > > > > > > > > > Then I print something: > > > > > > > > > > % pwd | lpr > > > > > > > > > > Then this .seq file appears with weird permissions: > > > > > > > > > > # ls -al > > > > > total 10 > > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Feb 24 12:46 . > > > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 .. > > > > > -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 24 12:45 .seq > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 41 Feb 24 12:45 lock > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 25 Feb 24 12:45 status > > > > > # > > > > > > > > > > # cat .seq > > > > > 001 > > > > > # > > > > > > > > > > So presumably lpd(8) created this file, but I'm still > > > > > unsure why permissions are so strange. But interests > > > > > me more, is why I didn't see it until about 1-2 months > > > > > ago? Has something chaged in -current, e.g. in open(2) > > > > > like you suggest? Or has I messed up with my setup? > > > > > Or maybe it was always like this, but the security > > > > > check didn't pick it up? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > > > > > No more than a normal level of paranoia is indicated here. > > > > > > > > Looking at usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c at around line 847 (RELENG_9): > > > > > > > > (void) snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%s/.seq", pp->spool_dir); > > > > seteuid(euid); > > > > if ((fd = open(buf, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0661)) < 0) { > > > > printf("%s: cannot create %s\n", progname, buf); > > > > exit(1); > > > > } > > > > if (flock(fd, LOCK_EX)) { > > > > printf("%s: cannot lock %s\n", progname, buf); > > > > exit(1); > > > > } > > > > > > > > It remains a mystery why these files are created with mode 0661. Mode > > > > > > Isn't .seq above has mode 641? > > > > > > % chmod 641 z > > > % ls -al z > > > -rw-r----x 1 mexas wheel 0 Feb 24 13:59 z > > > % > > > > It sure is, in all cases quoted above. > > > > All handling of the .seq files seems to be contained within the > > mktemps() function of usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c. > > > > The call to open(2) with the mode set to 0661 has been there since CVS > > revision 1.1 of usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c, see > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/lpr/lpr/lpr.c?annotate=1.45.2.1.2.1 > > > > No calls to chmod(2) of the .seq files anywhere else, as far as I can > > tell. > > > > I usually keep tight permissions on the spool directories, mode 0770. > > It seems I need 755, otherwise dialer and smmsp > will not have access: > > # ls -al /var/spool/ > total 28 > drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Nov 21 2009 . > drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 512 Jan 31 02:03 .. > drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 512 Feb 24 03:39 clientmqueue > drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Jan 31 02:04 lock > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Nov 21 2009 lpd > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 14336 Feb 24 03:40 mqueue > drwx------ 2 root daemon 512 Nov 21 2009 opielocks > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Mar 9 2010 output > # I meant the printer spool directories, sorry for not being clearer. E.g. /var/spool/output/lpd, as in your case, or in my case, /var/spool/lpd/*. trond@enterprise:~>ll /var/spool/lpd total 153 drwxr-xr-x 18 root daemon - 18B Jan 10 14:15 ./ drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel - 11B Jan 10 14:15 ../ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp1160-223/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp1200-235/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp1320-241/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp1320-a/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp1320-b/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp1320nw/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp2015-154/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp2025-216a/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp2420-104/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 5B Feb 20 10:01 hp2430-226/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp3005-105/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp3505-223/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 5B Mar 22 2010 hp3505-225/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 5B Jan 8 19:38 hp4000-165/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp4v-243/ drwxrwx--- 2 root daemon - 2B Oct 1 2009 hp5550-221/ However only these .seq files exist on the particular system shown above: Checking negative group permissions: 94 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Feb 20 10:01:50 2012 /var/spool/lpd/hp2430-226/.seq 98 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Mar 22 13:39:44 2010 /var/spool/lpd/hp3505-225/.seq 103 -rw-r----x 1 root daemon 4 Jan 8 19:38:02 2012 /var/spool/lpd/hp4000-165/.seq > > It's still a mystery. Thus it's time to bring in people with more > > knowledge on lpr and friends. > > sure I wouldn't worry about these strange permissions, but I think it's well past the time to clean up lpr.c. Should we submit a PR? -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. dir. 61 14 54 39, | Office.....: +47 61 14 54 39, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-2137972197-1330155481=:47275-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 08:14:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B81106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F58B8FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:fa1e:dfff:feda:c0bb]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q1P8Drc8052469 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:13:53 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q1P8Drc8052469 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1330157633; bh=PVgT3nBCqoRLqaRFmVNNndwXksiyvYxMns5N5jfihO0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=UxCMuLl6gC8WenN1vOIPJrgvPwSpAtgYh691Yh8hy/Hc8hkapN9LXS8MJKq25Uo7r TYinnuBWW38LRx4r4nXya0JvgRGRfuDyRK/znRkLkzw9/xFR6dC6pT+V3ld9kH9knW YVnLwy2bG2uYaCTqdP862tvj6M3QnMmEz93C/rjs= Message-ID: <4F489838.3000803@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:13:44 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hill References: <4F47B5FB.2000307@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8B131792B012EBFB4E319C26" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount options display (detailed) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:14:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8B131792B012EBFB4E319C26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/02/2012 01:21, Chris Hill wrote: > 'mount -p' shows me something that looks a lot like my own /etc/fstab. > It appears to be showing me what's mounted right now, but it does not > display any mount options. This is on 8.0-STABLE; maybe things have > changed in the Brave New World of Nine. No, things are exactly the same in this regard in 9.x. Yes, 'mount -p' shows you the fstab(5) file corresponding to the current state of your system. Although nowadays you wouldn't necessarily want to have /etc/fstab containing exactly that data -- ZFS has a lot of this stuff built in, and jails etc. are frequently configured using a separate fstab file. I don't understand what you are asking for, if it isn't the mount options in the 4th column of the fstab(5) file. If you mean "what mount options are available to use," then I suggest reading the mount(8) man page (for the generic options, and those relating to UFS) and the filesystem specific versions such as mount_cd9660, mount_nfs, mount_nullfs etc. To see what mount related man pages are available: man -k mount_ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8B131792B012EBFB4E319C26 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9ImEAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw21ACfdUL6IV8eKlvWrjCe06xMJb8q xWYAnjNgrErwHTdpl3c4AAbYgy3eG5Wn =LRe+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8B131792B012EBFB4E319C26-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 08:46:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41713106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ueber@roladder.net) Received: from mail.roladder.net (roladder.net [46.4.18.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA09B8FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.roladder.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 51DCB2555938; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:46:25 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on roladder.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from localhost (Debian-50-lenny-64-LAMP [46.4.18.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.roladder.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 003C725553C3 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:46:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:46:24 +0100 From: Florian Unglaub To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120225084624.GA7973@roladder.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120220145840.GA45802@mars.foo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Problems with linprocfs(5) and htop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:46:27 -0000 > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:46:35PM +0000, jb wrote: > Florian Unglaub roladder.net> writes: > > > ... > > htop relies on linprocfs(5) to gather process statistic. linprocfs is > > mounted: > > > > linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) > > ... > > $ cat /etc/fstab > ... > linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 I used to have it mounted there until people on the forums repeatedly told me it should be mounted under /usr/compat/linux/proc. However, I just moved the whole compat directory to /usr and made a symlink to /usr/compat. Nevertheless, in neither configurations the tool is working. Regards, Florian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 10:42:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA4D106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62068FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (188-221-77-161.zone12.bethere.co.uk [188.221.77.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1PAfxlM076361; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:42:00 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:41:58 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bender, Chris" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:42:14 -0000 On 24/02/2012 21:52, Bender, Chris wrote: > Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about. > > Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to > send to another machine. Check /var/log/maillog on both boxes, you should see a log message on the origin machine and the onward machine of the form (I've replaced actual names with CAPS) Feb 25 10:37:32 SERVER1 sm-mta[74139]: q1OIevSE033413-*MSGID*: to=, delay=15:56:34, xdelay=00:01:15, mailer=esmtp, pri=2919788, relay=SOME.RELAY. [X.X.86.167], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation timed out with [SERVER] What does the Stat say on the first box, if its anything other than Sent Ok, then it'll say why. ( deferred, refused etc). Check the logs on the 2nd server for the same message. Post extracts from both boxes if you need further help good luck Paul. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 10:47:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CC0106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649A48FC16 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S1FAG-0005Gz-TX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:47:44 +0100 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:47:44 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:47:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <4F47B5FB.2000307@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4F489838.3000803@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1) Subject: Re: mount options display (detailed) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:47:48 -0000 Matthew Seaman infracaninophile.co.uk> writes: > > On 25/02/2012 01:21, Chris Hill wrote: > > 'mount -p' shows me something that looks a lot like my own /etc/fstab. > > It appears to be showing me what's mounted right now, but it does not > > display any mount options. This is on 8.0-STABLE; maybe things have > > changed in the Brave New World of Nine. > ... > I don't understand what you are asking for, if it isn't the mount > options in the 4th column of the fstab(5) file. > ... Read this and follow few remaining posts in the thread: http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd-fs/2011-01/msg00169.html jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 11:32:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1551065673 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EA78FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1PBWOpr020441; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:32:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id q1PBSLo7026260; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:28:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:28:21 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4F486340.7040907@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: References: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4F478D8B.31307.5E97C34@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <4F486340.7040907@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120225 #7086908, check: 20120225 clean Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:32:28 -0000 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: > On 02/25/12 12:03, David Brodbeck wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Dave wrote: >>> Those address links need changing to graphic's, so that most address >>> harvesting bots won't get anything usable. >>> >>> Mk1 eyeball can still see what's what, but if you have to use the info, >>> you have to re-type it manually. >> I really don't recommend that. Keep in mind not everyone can use the >> "Mk1 eyeball." Websites need to be accessible to blind people using >> screen reader software, too. > And therein lies the problem. How do you maintain accessibility while > preventing bots from harvesting? You can't have your cake and eat it too... > :) > > Only solution lies in a security gate of good filters and blocklists. But > occasionally one or two will still pass. An email address can be hidden from bots without violating section 508, for instance: feenberg is at nber dot org or some variant won't be picked up by a robot. But is it really practical to treat an email address as a secret, when it will be shared with hundreds of correspondents? I have mostly thought that was hopeless. We do it on our website because we don't want to bother arguing with people. daniel feenberg feenberg@nber.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 13:11:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5EB106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF6B8FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so5466478iae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cpghost@cordula.ws designates 10.50.214.36 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.214.36; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cpghost@cordula.ws designates 10.50.214.36 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cpghost@cordula.ws Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.214.36]) by 10.50.214.36 with SMTP id nx4mr2470158igc.2.1330175465886 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:11:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.214.36 with SMTP id nx4mr1994279igc.2.1330175465660; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.8.30 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:11:05 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.198] In-Reply-To: References: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4F478D8B.31307.5E97C34@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <4F486340.7040907@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:11:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Daniel Feenberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnYRB5GomYIP8vNPDk1Age5iMU+GvQeEcNZzKgndj4TlrjICgY+wroj6M+s2DLQ4emGa0J8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:11:06 -0000 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote= : > An email address can be hidden from bots without violating section 508, f= or > instance: > > =A0feenberg is at nber dot org > > or some variant won't be picked up by a robot. Most bots use some rather sophisticated regexp pattern matching nowadays, including some primitive JavaScript parsing to defeat the most popular JS-based obfuscations. This one is very, very obvious and among the easiest ones (including the "is" variation). You couldn't hide from them this way. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 13:41:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298A0106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2BB8FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id F3F4B180E01; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:40:27 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 84949180D66; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 84A2EB18973; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 25 Feb 2012 08:41:19 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-vipre-scanned: 051EAFC9002D45051EB116 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure Thread-Index: AczzqiMk7k4VI9/sQH+Xel62sq6D+QAFcjpQ References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> From: "Bender, Chris" To: "Paul Macdonald" X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: paul@ifdnrg.com X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33017-48044) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:41:36 -0000 Hi Paul, =20 What is happening is mail is coming from machine A--=E0 sent to a middle= machine X which I think is acting as a delivery machine(as I see postfi= x as a processes) which iisn't the recipient of the mail just Deliverer. It is also a jails machine. Anyway the logs on system A say= the following when sending a mail to me through X. =20 Feb 25 13:04:17 ccl_imagpsm sendmail[25091]: q1OFs7e0007106: to=3D, ctladdr=3D (500/500),= delay=3D21:10:07, xdelay=3D00:00:00, mailer=3Drelay, pri=3D4080533,=20 relay=3Dtools2.wms.cell.com., dsn=3D4.0.0, stat=3DDeferred: Connection= timed out with tools2.wms.cell.com. =20 I did a tcp dump on system X and I did see packets coming in and out fro= m X on port 25 but nothing came in on the maillog. =20 I then sent the same email I attempted on system A but from system X. That worked and here is the log. =20 Feb 25 13:33:44 tools2 postfix/pickup[20706]: F0986628D: uid=3D0 from=3D= Feb 25 13:33:44 tools2 postfix/cleanup[21660]: F0986628D: message-id=3D<= 20120225133344.F0986628D@tools2.wms.cell.com> Feb 25 13:33:44 tools2 postfix/qmgr[20707]: F0986628D: from=3D, size=3D441, nrcpt=3D1 (queue active) Feb 25 13:33:45 tools2 postfix/smtp[21675]: F0986628D: to=3D, relay=3Dwmsexg01.corp.cell.com[10.200.104.15]:25, delay=3D0= .16, delays=3D0.03/0.01/0.01/0.11, dsn=3D2.0.0, status=3Dsent (250 2.0.0= Ok: queued as DC069B18973) Feb 25 13:33:45 tools2 postfix/qmgr[20707]: F0986628D: removed =20 I am loosing much info as many machines are attempting to deliver email. Not sure what to do need a mentor on this. =20 Please help =20 Thanks =20 =20 =20 From: Paul Macdonald [mailto:paul@ifdnrg.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:42 AM To: Bender, Chris Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure =20 On 24/02/2012 21:52, Bender, Chris wrote:=20 Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about. =20 Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to send to another machine. Check /var/log/maillog on both boxes, you should see a log message on the origin machine and the onward machin= e of the form (I've replaced actual names with CAPS) Feb 25 10:37:32 SERVER1 sm-mta[74139]: q1OIevSE033413-MSGID: to=3D , delay=3D15:56:34, xdelay=3D00:01:= 15, mailer=3Desmtp, pri=3D2919788, relay=3DSOME.RELAY. [X.X.86.167], dsn= =3D4.0.0, stat=3DDeferred: Operation timed out with [SERVER] What does the Stat say on the first box, if its anything other than Sent= Ok, then it'll say why. ( deferred, refused etc). Check the logs on the 2nd server for the same message. Post extracts from both boxes if you need further help good luck Paul. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebs= d.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-que= stions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@f= reebsd.org" =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 14:11:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071E21065673 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3E48FC15 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.86] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1PEBm3s025761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:11:48 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:11:45 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bender, Chris" References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:11:56 -0000 On 25/02/2012 13:41, Bender, Chris wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > What is happening is mail is coming from machine A--àsent to a middle > machine*X* which I think is acting as a delivery machine(as I see > postfix as a processes) which iisn't the recipient of the mail just > > Deliverer. It is also a jails machine. Anyway the logs on system A say > the following when sending a mail to me through X. > > Feb 25 13:04:17 ccl_imagpsm sendmail[25091]: q1OFs7e0007106: > to=, ctladdr= > (500/500), delay=21:10:07, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4080533, > > relay=tools2.wms.cell.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection timed > out with tools2.wms.cell.com. > > I did a tcp dump on system X and I did see packets coming in and out > from X on port 25 but nothing came in on the maillog. > Ok, i don't know Postfix so someone else might have to pick up here. It sounds like there might be a local mailer (submission queue) running on X, but not SMTP. The message from A was that it couldn't connect to X. (Deferred: Connection timed out with tools2.wms.cell.com) what do you get if you try telnetting from A to X telnet tools2.wms.cell.com 25 (if you get a connection, good, try following these instructions to send a mail manually via telnet) http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html If not, have you tried restarting postfix on X? Paul. > *From:*Paul Macdonald [mailto:paul@ifdnrg.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:42 AM > *To:* Bender, Chris > *Cc:* freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > *Subject:* Re: Email issues, relay failure > > On 24/02/2012 21:52, Bender, Chris wrote: > > Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about. > > Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to > send to another machine. > > > Check /var/log/maillog on both boxes, > > you should see a log message on the origin machine and the onward > machine of the form > > (I've replaced actual names with CAPS) > > Feb 25 10:37:32 SERVER1 sm-mta[74139]: q1OIevSE033413-*MSGID*: > to= , delay=15:56:34, > xdelay=00:01:15, mailer=esmtp, pri=2919788, relay=SOME.RELAY. > [X.X.86.167], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation timed out with [SERVER] > > What does the Stat say on the first box, if its anything other than > Sent Ok, then it'll say why. ( deferred, refused etc). > > Check the logs on the 2nd server for the same message. > > Post extracts from both boxes if you need further help > > good luck > > Paul. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546< Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2401106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9047B8FC1D for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id BF662180D8F; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:25:49 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 47E06180CCE; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:25:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E18DB1885D; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 25 Feb 2012 10:26:40 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-vipre-scanned: 057F22A9002D45057F23F6 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:26:38 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure Thread-Index: AczzzFpZ0D3y2jYgTzmFYHMNP7hN7AABP4Yg References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> From: "Bender, Chris" To: "Paul Macdonald" X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: paul@ifdnrg.com X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33018-48106) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:27:15 -0000 Hi Paul =20 I restarted postfix several times on system X. I even restarted the enti= re system. The DNS isn't an issue I tried the IP address. I was wondering if there= was certificate or Some password issue, is that possible? Something isn't connecting betwee= n the two. On telnet w IP it says unable to connect. =20 I know nothing about postfix either. It is weird that I can email from= X though.=20 I tried postfix status from MAN and postfix flush but that didn't reveal= much. =20 Its weird that the delivery on A says deferred connection timed out but= on tcpdump I see the port 25 Traffic seemingly working on system X. =20 =20 Thanks,=20 =20 any postfix/mail braniacs out there? =20 =20 Regards =20 =20 From: Paul Macdonald [mailto:paul@ifdnrg.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 9:47 AM To: Bender, Chris Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure =20 i just tried a dns lookup on tools2.wms.cell.com and got nothing so it= looks like you're dns entries are on a local network. If you try telnettting to the IP of X on port 25, you can rule out a DNS= issue. Paul. On 25/02/2012 14:35, Bender, Chris wrote:=20 Hi Paul=20 Interesting I hadn't thought if that.=20 =20 Telnetting to port 25 has no results whatsoever. Does it matter that mac= hine X doesn't support telnet though. It only allows SSH. telnet: connect to address 0.0.4.41: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused =20 =20 thanks From: Paul Macdonald [mailto:paul@ifdnrg.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 9:12 AM To: Bender, Chris Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure =20 On 25/02/2012 13:41, Bender, Chris wrote:=20 Hi Paul, =20 What is happening is mail is coming from machine A--=E0 sent to a middle= machine X which I think is acting as a delivery machine(as I see postfi= x as a processes) which iisn't the recipient of the mail just Deliverer. It is also a jails machine. Anyway the logs on system A say= the following when sending a mail to me through X. =20 Feb 25 13:04:17 ccl_imagpsm sendmail[25091]: q1OFs7e0007106: to=3D , ctladdr=3D (500/500)= , delay=3D21:10:07, xdelay=3D00:00:00, mailer=3Drelay, pri=3D4080533,=20 relay=3Dtools2.wms.cell.com., dsn=3D4.0.0, stat=3DDeferred: Connection= timed out with tools2.wms.cell.com. =20 I did a tcp dump on system X and I did see packets coming in and out fro= m X on port 25 but nothing came in on the maillog. =20 Ok, i don't know Postfix so someone else might have to pick up here. It sounds like there might be a local mailer (submission queue) running= on X, but not SMTP. The message from A was that it couldn't connect to= X. (Deferred: Connection timed out with tools2.wms.cell.com) what do you get if you try telnetting from A to X telnet tools2.wms.cell.com 25 (if you get a connection, good, try following these instructions to send= a mail manually via telnet) http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html If not, have you tried restarting postfix on X? Paul. =20 From: Paul Macdonald [mailto:paul@ifdnrg.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:42 AM To: Bender, Chris Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure =20 On 24/02/2012 21:52, Bender, Chris wrote:=20 Hi, I am responsible for a system I know little about. =20 Sendmail all of a sudden stopped working...the sendmial is supposed to send to another machine. Check /var/log/maillog on both boxes, you should see a log message on the origin machine and the onward machin= e of the form (I've replaced actual names with CAPS) Feb 25 10:37:32 SERVER1 sm-mta[74139]: q1OIevSE033413-MSGID: to=3D , delay=3D15:56:34, xdelay=3D00:01:= 15, mailer=3Desmtp, pri=3D2919788, relay=3DSOME.RELAY. [X.X.86.167], dsn= =3D4.0.0, stat=3DDeferred: Operation timed out with [SERVER] What does the Stat say on the first box, if its anything other than Sent= Ok, then it'll say why. ( deferred, refused etc). Check the logs on the 2nd server for the same message. Post extracts from both boxes if you need further help good luck Paul. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebs= d.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-que= stions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@f= reebsd.org" =20 =20 --=20 ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 < Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9335106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F678FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so5663838iae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jrisom@gmail.com designates 10.50.236.5 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.236.5; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jrisom@gmail.com designates 10.50.236.5 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jrisom@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=jrisom@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.236.5]) by 10.50.236.5 with SMTP id uq5mr3151620igc.13.1330187147255 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:25:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SwKkKLB0K+PPyNdaXNnx0Rz4q0cPhH4LLz9yG0w6+UA=; b=iE1Zt53fpa/zi31gSwOXpu+4PXCdXsQWWqVjdP8AVhz90k2suMI/Xl0UioHOm82Yn6 EQWoD1YsEgVGn0JDfjpZiEBGinMGPT1hkjFkh9TQiauIMBdCkJXsjq2HEARpXOyvUSmc UXU4jvyWNJIlXBgZrFpAqPSoQN2kznAjx/EbY= Received: by 10.50.236.5 with SMTP id uq5mr2570050igc.13.1330187147217; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-197-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k3sm5080923igq.1.2012.02.25.08.25.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:25:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F490B81.3050106@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:25:37 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F47620D.24859.53F9A2B@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <868vjs8nto.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4F478D8B.31307.5E97C34@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> <4F486340.7040907@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Security? [Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:25:47 -0000 On 2/25/2012 7:11 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >> An email address can be hidden from bots without violating section 508, for >> instance: >> >> feenberg is at nber dot org >> >> or some variant won't be picked up by a robot. > > Most bots use some rather sophisticated regexp pattern > matching nowadays, including some primitive JavaScript > parsing to defeat the most popular JS-based obfuscations. > This one is very, very obvious and among the easiest ones > (including the "is" variation). You couldn't hide from them > this way. > > -cpghost. > What happens if the person going to the website doesn't speak any english and uses a translating service? The username or domain name could be mangled to something different. 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If you are having a problem with Postfix, the absolute best place to get help with your problem is the Postfix forum. TO REPORT A PROBLEM see http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail Output from "postconf -n". Please do not send your main.cf file, or 500+ lines of postconf output. Better, provide output from the postfinger tool. This can be found at http://ftp.wl0.org/SOURCES/postfinger. Depending on your version of Postfix, "postconf -Mf" & "postconf -nf" will output all the information required. Just copy it and submit it the Postfix forum. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 18:39:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA03106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43928FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id C16B4180D93; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:38:13 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 96D2F180D88; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C7689B18E64; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 25 Feb 2012 13:39:08 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja Received: from 10.200.104.30 ([10.200.104.30]) by wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:39:08 +0000 References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Bender, Chris" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure Thread-Index: Aczz7MHDLxE2q12lQKSKYR7ZxfY69w== In-Reply-To: <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:39:02 -0500 To: "Jon Radel" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: jon@radel.com X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33019-48258) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:39:41 -0000 Hi Jon Thanks. There aren't any firewalls between the devices but they are far= apart. I can telnet from x to a and I can ssh from a to x.=20 I think you are right in focusing on the connection time out from A to= X , i looked on X for a service that isnt running Which makes this fail but I am not sure=20 Which services. I see postfix and sendmail running and I have restarted= them. I never see mail delivery from A in mailog on X Thanks On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:03 PM, "Jon Radel" wrote: > On 2/25/12 10:26 AM, Bender, Chris wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On telnet w IP it says unable to connect. > ... >> Its weird that the delivery on A says deferred connection timed out= but on tcpdump I see the port 25 >=20 >=20 > If you can't establish a TCP connection from A to your relay server= on port 25, I'd expect all of the above. If you can't establish a TCP= connection to port 25 at all from A, I'd stop focusing on the details= of the e-mail server on the relay machine (as they're likely to be besi= de the point) and start focusing on what is blocking the traffic from= A. Have you audited all the firewalls involved? To be really focused,= if you see traffic (both ways) at the relay server when A tries to talk= to port 25, but A is convinced that no TCP connection is established,= either you're stomping on things at the relay server (do your attempts= to telnet to port 25 fail immediately or just sit there for a good long= time and then fail?), the reply packets from relay to A are getting mis= -routed, or A is ignoring the packets coming in from the relay. Can you= ping from the relay to A? >=20 > There's a distinct difference between failure to establish a TCP conne= ction (look to the network stuff) and the e-mail server giving you an= error response rejecting your attempt to transfer mail or just quietly= loosing the mail (look to the e-mail servers). >=20 > --=20 > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 19:03:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93544106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDA88FC1E for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10569571; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:03:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.246] (account jon@radel.com HELO winesap.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10569565; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:03:15 -0500 Message-ID: <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:03:14 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bender, Chris" References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070607080608030900060107" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:03:25 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070607080608030900060107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/25/12 10:26 AM, Bender, Chris wrote: > > On telnet w IP it says unable to connect. =2E.. > Its weird that the delivery on A says deferred connection timed out but= on tcpdump I see the port 25 If you can't establish a TCP connection from A to your relay server on=20 port 25, I'd expect all of the above. If you can't establish a TCP=20 connection to port 25 at all from A, I'd stop focusing on the details of = the e-mail server on the relay machine (as they're likely to be beside=20 the point) and start focusing on what is blocking the traffic from A.=20 Have you audited all the firewalls involved? To be really focused, if=20 you see traffic (both ways) at the relay server when A tries to talk to=20 port 25, but A is convinced that no TCP connection is established,=20 either you're stomping on things at the relay server (do your attempts=20 to telnet to port 25 fail immediately or just sit there for a good long=20 time and then fail?), the reply packets from relay to A are getting=20 mis-routed, or A is ignoring the packets coming in from the relay. Can=20 you ping from the relay to A? There's a distinct difference between failure to establish a TCP=20 connection (look to the network stuff) and the e-mail server giving you=20 an error response rejecting your attempt to transfer mail or just=20 quietly loosing the mail (look to the e-mail servers). --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms070607080608030900060107-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 19:18:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CF7106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DE18FC20 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S1N8v-0003TV-LN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:18:53 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:18:53 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:18:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:19:07 -0500 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:18:57 -0000 Jon Radel wrote: > On 2/25/12 10:26 AM, Bender, Chris wrote: > >> >> On telnet w IP it says unable to connect. > ... >> Its weird that the delivery on A says deferred connection timed out but >> on tcpdump I see the port 25 > > > If you can't establish a TCP connection from A to your relay server on > port 25, I'd expect all of the above. If you can't establish a TCP > connection to port 25 at all from A, I'd stop focusing on the details of > the e-mail server on the relay machine (as they're likely to be beside > the point) and start focusing on what is blocking the traffic from A. > Have you audited all the firewalls involved? To be really focused, if > you see traffic (both ways) at the relay server when A tries to talk to > port 25, but A is convinced that no TCP connection is established, > either you're stomping on things at the relay server (do your attempts > to telnet to port 25 fail immediately or just sit there for a good long > time and then fail?), the reply packets from relay to A are getting > mis-routed, or A is ignoring the packets coming in from the relay. Can > you ping from the relay to A? > > There's a distinct difference between failure to establish a TCP > connection (look to the network stuff) and the e-mail server giving you > an error response rejecting your attempt to transfer mail or just > quietly loosing the mail (look to the e-mail servers). > It can also depend on a difference between residential vs business account at the ISP between them. If it was working fine and absolutely nothing was changed at either end, one posibility is an ISP implemented a policy of forcing mail submission to port 587, and whatever blocking they then started on port 25 is what broke the connection. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 20:00:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A791106567C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward7.mail.yandex.net (forward7.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263928FC19 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (smtp8.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.54]) by forward7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 678681C1E1D; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:00:39 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330200039; bh=dt3rC0nm/IQXn8MfGKM5EKzei4GBxB6lgHK61z8wZ3Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WfeUEeTE6t6PDkinO4SJT5bKizEznK/9iZRaRtlC+VwKQaHvhSkVRzGpC8xuLCCh7 mzLjspwDZ3+tvqhH5YXjrjJQjF8jsYere2hoPmT0912Hy0Pjn7vFuH7epvsQUFsID0 LC1v4OXGoR007f3aBrPsOXN3AAa1HFFn4IPrALh4= Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3E62E1B604C7; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:00:39 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330200039; bh=dt3rC0nm/IQXn8MfGKM5EKzei4GBxB6lgHK61z8wZ3Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WfeUEeTE6t6PDkinO4SJT5bKizEznK/9iZRaRtlC+VwKQaHvhSkVRzGpC8xuLCCh7 mzLjspwDZ3+tvqhH5YXjrjJQjF8jsYere2hoPmT0912Hy0Pjn7vFuH7epvsQUFsID0 LC1v4OXGoR007f3aBrPsOXN3AAa1HFFn4IPrALh4= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 0ceer8xi-0ce810cW; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:00:39 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:00:36 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! 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Ð’Ñ‹ пиÑали 24 Ñ„ÐµÐ²Ñ€Ð°Ð»Ñ 2012 г., 10:10:12: VK> Коньков Евгений wrote: >> >> #uname FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #2 r231881: Thu Feb 23 00:53:28 UTC 2012 >> и Version 5.6 (root@ 10:03 20-Feb-2012) >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790445113.png >> try to reconnect to mpd 10-20times and you get next: >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790454801.png VK> Used server differs in your images. Would you please track down assigned VK> IP's? I have load video on youtube. When low performance occur top -SHP shows next: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU2 2 222:21 100.00% idle{idle: cpu 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU1 1 222:11 100.00% idle{idle: cpu 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU3 3 222:07 100.00% idle{idle: cpu 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K RUN 0 221:39 98.73% idle{idle: cpu0 12 root -32 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 1:30 0.00% intr{swi4: cloc 0 root -68 0 0K 384K - 3 1:03 0.00% kernel{dummynet 0 root -16 0 0K 384K sched 0 0:44 0.00% kernel{swapper} 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:31 0.00% intr{swi1: neti 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:11 0.00% intr{swi1: neti 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 2 0:07 0.00% intr{irq263: ig 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 0:06 0.00% intr{swi1: neti 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 2 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 0 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 2 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:05 0.00% intr{irq276: re it seems like no ticks are given to new subsystem what is comming on you can see on video (there are also shown netstat, vmstat etc) see video #3 this is best video then #2 then #1 http://youtu.be/f90nMtNdKB8 -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 20:12:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C831065670 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward8.mail.yandex.net (forward8.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934A98FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (smtp8.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.54]) by forward8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DEF1BF6266F; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:12:39 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330200759; bh=r7ponMsXJK8LOA+K+auC5yuqjJO8yUI3i4mcLqKTsb8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B2aGBivM7lBC8vyRrZvOlqrRmQBq7/gOGglRFrX1m1aAHWcMt8UUYG3vS5KB8gPQX Kj/IVrHUCSsY7UwyMETeb9z8ZcJOrGZ9H2cUWGC7HwoEwX71CzQSByHnhZGQx7HNOR kXtFzxfZHJFgBV5Mpfd87Od1NPs8/b6cDfkr1gjU= Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B852E1B603E4; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:12:39 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330200759; bh=r7ponMsXJK8LOA+K+auC5yuqjJO8yUI3i4mcLqKTsb8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B2aGBivM7lBC8vyRrZvOlqrRmQBq7/gOGglRFrX1m1aAHWcMt8UUYG3vS5KB8gPQX Kj/IVrHUCSsY7UwyMETeb9z8ZcJOrGZ9H2cUWGC7HwoEwX71CzQSByHnhZGQx7HNOR kXtFzxfZHJFgBV5Mpfd87Od1NPs8/b6cDfkr1gjU= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id CdeeQFuR-CdeGsYlv; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:12:39 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:12:37 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4421523.20120225221237@yandex.ru> To: Robert Bonomi In-Reply-To: <201112262154.pBQLsxJt038471@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <9110154891.20111226214424@yandex.ru> <201112262154.pBQLsxJt038471@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[8]: high load system do not take all CPU time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:12:42 -0000 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Robert. Âû ïèñàëè 26 äåêàáðÿ 2011 ã., 23:54:59: RB> [drivelectomy -- 200+ lines] RB> You've been told the following, *repeatedly*: RB> Your hardware is not capable of keeping up with the level of network traffic RB> it is being subjected to. RB> Reaaltek cards and the 're' device driver are a *BAD*CHOICE* for systems with RB> heavy network traffic. They're merely 'medium lousy' on a lightly-loaded RB> system, but you don't notice the problems under light loads. RB> You have two choices: RB> 1) "live with" the crappy performance RB> 2) get a better quality network card. better card do not change situation http://youtu.be/f90nMtNdKB8 full video you can download http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/316076/1.rar igb3@pci0:1:0:3: class=0x020000 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet 12 root -32 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 1:38 0.00% intr{swi4: cloc 0 root -68 0 0K 384K - 3 1:08 0.00% kernel{dummynet 0 root -16 0 0K 384K sched 2 0:44 0.00% kernel{swapper} 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:31 0.00% intr{swi1: neti 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:11 0.00% intr{swi1: neti 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 2 0:07 0.00% intr{irq263: ig 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 2 0:06 0.00% intr{swi1: neti 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:05 0.00% intr{irq276: re 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:04 0.00% intr{swi1: neti 14 root -16 - 0K 16K - 0 0:04 0.00% yarrow 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 0:01 0.00% intr{irq262: ig 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 0:01 0.00% intr{irq257: ig 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 0 0:01 0.00% intr{irq261: ig 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 2 0:01 0.00% intr{irq258: ig 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:01 0.00% intr{irq274: ig 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:01 0.00% intr{irq264: ig -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 20:26:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A27106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8068FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so5899987iae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cpghost@cordula.ws designates 10.42.46.76 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.42.46.76; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cpghost@cordula.ws designates 10.42.46.76 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cpghost@cordula.ws Received: from mr.google.com ([10.42.46.76]) by 10.42.46.76 with SMTP id j12mr8094388icf.22.1330201608917 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:26:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.46.76 with SMTP id j12mr6486204icf.22.1330201608857; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.8.30 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:26:48 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.198] In-Reply-To: <201202241432.29069.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> References: <201202241359.19031.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F4738D8.9060900@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201202241432.29069.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:26:48 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkmd8SCBygUro0DOt6h6ZbMTom6yACZW9y9BZ4w4Xwv+73Nxl5tl2TVVte/JdyrJy74X2L7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is this Symbol in the front of your website. A humble request. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:26:49 -0000 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Friday 24 February 2012 14:14:32 Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 24/02/2012 06:59, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> > I live in Asia and they really have these things here. Just without th= e horns. >> >> That would be what most people call a "ball." =A0They have them in the >> west too... > > do they vibrate when they get moved? Yes, but only if they run FreeBSD, and only if they have the hw.balls.vibrating sysctl(8) set to 1. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 20:53:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3D1106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csbender@bellsouth.net) Received: from nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44BDA8FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2012 20:39:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.71] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2012 20:39:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2012 20:39:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 589579.60403.bm@omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 87718 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Feb 2012 20:39:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1330202399; bh=WqF0EuMOfWvcyvowyRJn5ITTI+euLNDkZ0LN+Rp+nmQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uJ+Ry1bqe/krCNo7XwYtNGyDPhr98Cug5IpNmrnY3CLKeNLLX2m/YwVvxhWUQjLg4yYRxfgSa5kHuM2/uSxMC1O76EgcC/SOAySHXlNyaS7qotHmO7jqtr/HV20T5SY2/hm+lNC68YVNrmORmbMWzX1mbRqTTR7J/y+bXVPCnMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=bellsouth.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HGe/O+KfPLjS7uJK6w/zOMDM00PlwO2jPxaOhWaelVgrg8iNquJp8+Drixt6Dq3/QwS3WKcCV2iUwvHQkllE4WoHzsCwmOWEqXuecQvyEWNWX7qx4B0juVLREFGu3PS0LOwOVJ+F7lxdPUpAFPGrGM8HQ3Nv3XzGNcF29LOhKmE=; X-YMail-OSG: sIk9BP0VM1m4EF2o.527M6ZdPNxeNIMa0orbjPYSuaI6hac EVtXiYp1PnAplloIdFtlmsD7WpcPTMoNSmnVS1Lx23NX3.LYQ1hQfsbJiSPk cPLoYMZ25tHUTf.97xLtFuutcPnjAPlI5MRWBqUH218pc0ML9ETgQIcP3ZDF AZq6BkhBgeyRey.GinTcjz61wXUYud.HQXdOqlXQ2XXvR6R_FZVpLT0Jv9z5 In8hBixXb74jURPhEVJfyru8Q7vrD7EsRRP9ZIUIk58KXSWKL38oIIvK9TpQ y2_Duawx6Awoe0pm.Hk1L.HcXHskcwOq51JGFv5TBDfGmm13WlLvXeEMiZG2 1TbGykTZLAs7SdYC29PMWyeaE.qJxveQ5yNw.WENIIK9q3.TxZ0FuFBvRpj3 IlHpnc7tEbcI7nQiGSn8mDBJaUQapduspDKJ6aKAupUevZug- Received: from [12.199.110.20] by web180705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:39:59 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 Message-ID: <1330202399.87318.YahooMailRC@web180705.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: csbender To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: postfix knowledgable folks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:53:36 -0000 I need to bid out some work, =0A=0A=0AIs there anybody who is good at postf= ix with freebsd 8.2. =0AI am willing to pay an expert if he can assist me a= s I am having issue with my =0Asystem.=0A=0A=0AWhat is happening is mail is= coming from machine A--=C3=A0 sent to a middle machine X =0Awhich I think = is acting as a delivery machine(as I see postfix as a processes) =0Awhich i= isn=E2=80=99t the recipient of the mail just Deliverer. It is also a jails = =0Amachine. Anyway the logs on system A say the following when sending a ma= il to me =0Athrough X.=0A =0AFeb 25 13:04:17 ccl_imagpsm sendmail[25091]: q= 1OFs7e0007106: =0Ato=3D, ctladdr=3D (500/500), =0Adelay=3D21:10:07, xdelay=3D00:00:00, mailer= =3Drelay, pri=3D4080533, =0Arelay=3Dtools2.wms.cell.com., dsn=3D4.0.0, stat= =3DDeferred: Connection timed out with =0Atools2.wms.cell.com.=0A =0AI did = a tcp dump on system X and I did see packets coming in and out from X on = =0Aport 25 but nothing came in on the maillog.=0A =0AI attempted telnet to= IP address of system X on port 25 from A. Connection =0Atimes out. =0A=0AT= he DNS isn=E2=80=99t an issue I tried the IP address as well.=0A =0AOn syst= em X I see postfix running. I restarted postfix several times on system =0A= X. I even restarted the entire system.=0A =0AI know nothing about postfix e= ither. It is weird that I can email from X though. =0A=0AI tried postfix st= atus from MAN and postfix flush but that didn=E2=80=99t reveal much.=0A =0A= Its weird that the delivery on A says deferred connection timed out but on = =0Atcpdump I see the port 25 Traffic seemingly working on system X.=0A =0AT= hat=E2=80=99s what I know which is very little about this.=0A=0Aplease call= 561 312 4848 ask for scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:14:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F66106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666B98FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08EB1E44B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1PLEXrh006641 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:14:35 -0000 I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 web-based configuration, none of the methods that are supposed to be used for installing a printer works. The "Add Printer" button leads to this: Add Printer ----------- Local Printers: Discovered Network Printers: Other Network Printers: o Internet Printing Protocol (http) o Internet Printing Protocol (ipp) o LPD/LPR Host or Printer o AppSocket/HP JetDirect [ Continue ] No local printers can be selected (even though the printer is connected, switched on and woken up). And "Find New Printers" shows this: Available Printers ------------------ No printers found. Excellent auto detection. :-) The corresponding device for the printer is this: ulpt0: on usbus4 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode ugen4.2: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON crw-rw---- 1 root cups 0, 142 Feb 25 21:42 /dev/ulpt0 I have installed all packages I can imagine: cups-1.4.6 cups-base-1.4.6_6 cups-client-1.4.6 cups-image-1.4.6 cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_6 gutenprint-cups-5.2.4_2 foo2zjs-20110609 foomatic-db-20090530_2 foomatic-db-engine-4.0.7,2 gutenprint-foomatic-5.2.4_2 foo2zjs-20110609 I also have the CLX-216xsplc.ppd PPD file available which I think I'd like to hand over to CUPS somewhere. ALTERNATIVE: If someone could explain how it's easier to make a lpr filter (for the system's printer service), I'd also appreciate this. I've already tried this: # foo2xqx-wrapper cupstest.ps > cupstest.xqx # cat cupstest.xqx > /dev/ulpt0 It causes the LED of the printer to blink, but nothing is printed, even though the printer startes to make sounds (involving the print mechanism, but not the sheet feeder). If I use # foo2qpdl-wrapper cupstest.ps > cupstest.xqx # cat cupstest.xqx > /dev/ulpt0 the CUPS test page is printed, but not in color (only b/w). After looking into the manpage, # foo2qpdl-wrapper -p 2 -c cupstest.ps > cupstest.xqx # cat cupstest.xqx > /dev/ulpt0 makes the printer print properly. Okay, it works. How am I supposed to use a PPD file with CUPS when no local printer is shown? I "need" CUPS (or at least my programs seem to think that), how should it be done? Okay, I could make a simple printer filter. I could then integrate that with /etc/printcap (as I do with my PCL HP Laserjet 4000d). I think it should be possible to code that similar to a parallel printer (with ulpt instead of lpt device specification for the lp= parameter... What am I doing wrong? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:25:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0622C106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBE18FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1PLP6G8082555; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:25:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:24:43 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bender, Chris" References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:25:21 -0000 2012-02-25 19:39, Bender, Chris skrev: > There aren't any firewalls between the devices but they are far apart. I can telnet from x to a and I can ssh from a to x. Have you tried the correct IP from A to X? Try dig -x and dig . Can you ping X from A? Try telnet to X from A with the hostname of X. Have X changed IP-address? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:26:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596CD1065672 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187E08FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so5949842iae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 10.50.87.201 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.87.201; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of olivares14031@gmail.com designates 10.50.87.201 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=olivares14031@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=olivares14031@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.87.201]) by 10.50.87.201 with SMTP id ba9mr10175455igb.30.1330205189465 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:26:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R/I/c+NkMeQ9QUEzlbtbDXF9pfmZagw8zgnMajAZXFQ=; b=lOlgI72qyerlcZzNRK10lc+v9UfSPeDOkUj/k6zr9MWQIyA34cQCBkOXxj24eEcRsv AkQ2iUel2vFHTmc7lza4v6S8/hF2oKldXlFXMXdEBWoSpX9kxj/5Z40xkgmg2Sd0JpNz rQHNreIKU7o/BLxy2XFGOYqMj3GHj4/hzqpvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.87.201 with SMTP id ba9mr8129556igb.30.1330205189399; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.187.137 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:26:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:26:29 -0600 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:26:30 -0000 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > supposed to be used for installing a printer works. > > The "Add Printer" button leads to this: > > > > Add Printer > ----------- > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Local Printers: > Discovered Network Printers: > =A0 =A0 Other Network Printers: o Internet Printing Protocol (http) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 o Internet Printi= ng Protocol (ipp) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 o LPD/LPR Host or= Printer > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 o AppSocket/HP Je= tDirect > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [ Continue ] > > No local printers can be selected (even though the > printer is connected, switched on and woken up). > > > > And "Find New Printers" shows this: > > > > Available Printers > ------------------ > No printers found. > > > > Excellent auto detection. :-) > > > > The corresponding device for the printer is this: > > ulpt0: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2> on usbus4 > ulpt0: using bi-directional mode > > ugen4.2: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0at usbus4, cfg=3D0 md=3DHOST spd=3DHIGH (480Mbps) pwr=3DON > > crw-rw---- =A01 root =A0cups =A0 =A00, 142 Feb 25 21:42 /dev/ulpt0 > > I have installed all packages I can imagine: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cups-1.4.6 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cups-base-1.4.6_6 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cups-client-1.4.6 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cups-image-1.4.6 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_6 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gutenprint-cups-5.2.4_2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0foo2zjs-20110609 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0foomatic-db-20090530_2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0foomatic-db-engine-4.0.7,2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gutenprint-foomatic-5.2.4_2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0foo2zjs-20110609 > > I also have the CLX-216xsplc.ppd PPD file available > which I think I'd like to hand over to CUPS somewhere. > > ALTERNATIVE: If someone could explain how it's easier > to make a lpr filter (for the system's printer service), > I'd also appreciate this. > > I've already tried this: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# foo2xqx-wrapper cupstest.ps > cupstest.xqx > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# cat cupstest.xqx > /dev/ulpt0 > > It causes the LED of the printer to blink, but nothing is > printed, even though the printer startes to make sounds > (involving the print mechanism, but not the sheet feeder). > > If I use > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# foo2qpdl-wrapper cupstest.ps > cupstest.xqx > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# cat cupstest.xqx > /dev/ulpt0 > > the CUPS test page is printed, but not in color (only b/w). > After looking into the manpage, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# foo2qpdl-wrapper -p 2 -c cupstest.ps > cupstest.xqx > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# cat cupstest.xqx > /dev/ulpt0 > > makes the printer print properly. > > Okay, it works. > > How am I supposed to use a PPD file with CUPS when no > local printer is shown? > > I "need" CUPS (or at least my programs seem to think > that), how should it be done? > > Okay, I could make a simple printer filter. I could then > integrate that with /etc/printcap (as I do with my PCL > HP Laserjet 4000d). I think it should be possible to code > that similar to a parallel printer (with ulpt instead > of lpt device specification for the lp=3D parameter... > > What am I doing wrong? :-) > > > > > -- Polytropon Hope this can help: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D27666 There are many things that could be interfering? - Create /etc/devfs.rules with the following, which sets the permissions and associates print devices with the cups group: [system=3D10] add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups - Add root and other users to cups group in /etc/group - Enable CUPS and the above rules at startup by adding these lines to /etc/rc.conf: cupsd_enable=3D"YES" devfs_system_ruleset=3D"system" Then hopefully the printer shows up in cups http://localhost:631 :) If none of this works, you may try adding the apsfilter port and use it to configure the printer? But see if the above helps. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:29:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA78106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward19.mail.yandex.net (forward19.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154318FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (smtp16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.16]) by forward19.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 688AF1121FBD; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:29:46 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330205386; bh=nL5YhowgLths9/lxJg9X44chxFaEh+H09iUviUzEa0o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jzO/Rn4HMoUMpUv8TyDimKr+EPh8qPc1K/TEh8xcrmg0D9FqIEouqC3BBQFXPTkwu j0GFpjwTLxQXiwvoxUhKeWMxmmJ3alBRT6RV4YT9FfmXVhyrMsWVqlQ+XPr1Suqfdk 14c+ZUBayrySSOZQADaNSJpWr/G7aVs3ML9z5A28= Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 37AAA6A0195; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:29:46 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1330205386; bh=nL5YhowgLths9/lxJg9X44chxFaEh+H09iUviUzEa0o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jzO/Rn4HMoUMpUv8TyDimKr+EPh8qPc1K/TEh8xcrmg0D9FqIEouqC3BBQFXPTkwu j0GFpjwTLxQXiwvoxUhKeWMxmmJ3alBRT6RV4YT9FfmXVhyrMsWVqlQ+XPr1Suqfdk 14c+ZUBayrySSOZQADaNSJpWr/G7aVs3ML9z5A28= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id TjrqCnGx-TjrSJHGl; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:29:45 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:29:43 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KfQnyDQmtC+0L3RjNC60L7QsiwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1114911301.20120225232943@yandex.ru> To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= In-Reply-To: <1088424644.20120225220036@yandex.ru> References: <1454516861.20120223091945@yandex.ru> <4F4745E4.8080002@gmail.com> <1088424644.20120225220036@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Volodymyr Kostyrko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[3]: VERY slow performance on igb+FreeBSD8.2+mpd5.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:29:49 -0000 ЗдравÑтвуйте, Коньков. Ð’Ñ‹ пиÑали 25 Ñ„ÐµÐ²Ñ€Ð°Ð»Ñ 2012 г., 22:00:36: КЕ> ЗдравÑтвуйте, Volodymyr. КЕ> Ð’Ñ‹ пиÑали 24 Ñ„ÐµÐ²Ñ€Ð°Ð»Ñ 2012 г., 10:10:12: VK>> Коньков Евгений wrote: >>> >>> #uname FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #2 r231881: Thu Feb 23 00:53:28 UTC 2012 >>> и Version 5.6 (root@ 10:03 20-Feb-2012) >>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790445113.png >>> try to reconnect to mpd 10-20times and you get next: >>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1790454801.png VK>> Used server differs in your images. Would you please track down assigned VK>> IP's? КЕ> I have load video on youtube. КЕ> When low performance occur top -SHP shows next: КЕ> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND КЕ> 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU2 2 222:21 100.00% idle{idle: cpu КЕ> 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU1 1 222:11 100.00% idle{idle: cpu КЕ> 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU3 3 222:07 100.00% idle{idle: cpu КЕ> 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K RUN 0 221:39 98.73% idle{idle: cpu0 КЕ> 12 root -32 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 1:30 0.00% intr{swi4: cloc КЕ> 0 root -68 0 0K 384K - 3 1:03 0.00% kernel{dummynet КЕ> 0 root -16 0 0K 384K sched 0 0:44 0.00% kernel{swapper} КЕ> 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:31 0.00% intr{swi1: neti КЕ> 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:11 0.00% intr{swi1: neti КЕ> 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 2 0:07 0.00% intr{irq263: ig КЕ> 12 root -44 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 0:06 0.00% intr{swi1: neti КЕ> 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 2 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que КЕ> 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 0 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que КЕ> 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 2 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que КЕ> 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:06 0.00% ng_queue{ng_que КЕ> 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:05 0.00% intr{irq276: re КЕ> it seems like no ticks are given to new subsystem КЕ> what is comming on you can see on video (there are also shown netstat, vmstat etc) КЕ> see video #3 this is best video then #2 then #1 КЕ> http://youtu.be/f90nMtNdKB8 when setting up values: net.isr.bindthreads: 1 net.isr.direct: 1 net.isr.direct_force: 1 seems have another problem: dummynet take 1/4 of system CPU even when no traffic at all (<10Kbit/s) bwm-ng v0.6 (probing every 0.500s), press 'h' for help input: getifaddrs type: rate | iface Rx Tx Total ============================================================================== igb0: 2.96 Kb/s 1.93 Kb/s 4.89 Kb/s igb1: 2.09 Kb/s 1.93 Kb/s 4.02 Kb/s igb2: 0.00 b/s 0.00 b/s 0.00 b/s igb3: 2.80 Kb/s 0.00 b/s 2.80 Kb/s re0: 956.18 b/s 9.28 Kb/s 10.21 Kb/s ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ total: 8.78 Kb/s 13.13 Kb/s 21.91 Kb/s last pid: 37916; load averages: 0.01, 0.04, 0.06 up 0+00:11:43 23:20:40 148 processes: 5 running, 104 sleeping, 39 waiting CPU 0: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU 1: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 97.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 2.7% idle CPU 2: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU 3: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Mem: 92M Active, 14M Inact, 260M Wired, 308K Cache, 23M Buf, 3474M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU3 3 11:37 100.00% idle{idle: cpu3} 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU2 2 11:31 100.00% idle{idle: cpu2} 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K RUN 0 11:29 100.00% idle{idle: cpu0} 0 root -68 0 0K 384K - 1 0:05 82.23% kernel{dummynet} 11 root 171 ki31 0K 64K CPU1 1 11:34 20.12% idle{idle: cpu1} 12 root -32 - 0K 624K WAIT 0 0:05 0.10% intr{swi4: clock} 0 root -16 0 0K 384K sched 0 0:44 0.00% kernel{swapper} 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 2 0:02 0.00% intr{irq263: igb1:que} 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 0:01 0.00% intr{irq262: igb1:que} 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:01 0.00% ng_queue{ng_queue3} 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:01 0.00% ng_queue{ng_queue1} 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 0 0:01 0.00% ng_queue{ng_queue2} 13 root -16 - 0K 64K sleep 1 0:01 0.00% ng_queue{ng_queue0} 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% intr{irq276: re0} 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 0 0:00 0.00% intr{irq261: igb1:que} 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 3 0:00 0.00% intr{irq264: igb1:que} 14 root -16 - 0K 16K - 1 0:00 0.00% yarrow 5292 root 44 -10 43876K 13760K select 1 0:00 0.00% mpd5{mpd5} 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% intr{irq257: igb0:que} 4070 root 44 0 5248K 3212K select 2 0:00 0.00% devd 12 root -68 - 0K 624K WAIT 2 0:00 0.00% intr{irq258: igb0:que} 2301 root 44 0 14548K 6968K select 2 0:00 0.00% bgpd 5226 bind 44 0 59228K 30092K ucond 0 0:00 0.00% named{named} # ipfw show | grep queue 26275 1193 227000 queue 54 ip from any not 80,110 to any in recv vlan492 # ipfw show | grep pipe # ipfw pipe show 00051: 170.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0 q131123 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 65587 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 sched 65587 type FIFO flags 0x1 64 buckets 0 active mask: 0x00 0xffffffff/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 00054: 60.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0 q131126 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 65590 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 sched 65590 type FIFO flags 0x1 64 buckets 0 active mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0xffffffff/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 00053: 60.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0 q131125 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 65589 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 sched 65589 type FIFO flags 0x1 64 buckets 0 active mask: 0x00 0xffffffff/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 00052: 170.000 Mbit/s 0 ms burst 0 q131124 50 sl. 0 flows (1 buckets) sched 65588 weight 0 lmax 0 pri 0 GRED w_q 0.001999 min_th 10 max_th 30 max_p 0.099991 sched 65588 type FIFO flags 0x1 64 buckets 0 active mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0xffffffff/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp # netstat -m 65778/1557/67335 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 65776/790/66566/262144 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 65776/784 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/44/44/12800 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/6400 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/3200 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 147996K/2145K/150141K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/0/0 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 calls to protocol drain routines -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:44:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FC7106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743578FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id CF401180D92; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:43:08 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B83B5180D7E; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 07F5CB18E64; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 25 Feb 2012 16:44:02 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-vipre-scanned: 06D89FCB002D4506D8A118 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:44:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure Thread-Index: Acz0A/xMZgX2Apn3RtGI5tb7RYlueAAAivqQ References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> <7409DAB4-F76A-493B-9A50-A663E6F6802E@cellularatsea.com> <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> From: "Bender, Chris" To: "Bernt Hansson" X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: bah@bananmonarki.se X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33020-48371) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: RE: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:44:23 -0000 NP on all counts..... Names and IPs are same results using both digson A and resolving. In fact both are identical results on A and B. I can easily ssh user@X-Username >From a too.=20 The issue doesn't appear be at getting to X the issues is something to do with the service on X. I amnot sure if postfix has certs, or password. I don't see anything on the maillog of X when the email from A Is sent to it. Maillog on A says connection timed out.=20 Thanks Regards -----Original Message----- From: Bernt Hansson [mailto:bah@bananmonarki.se]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:25 PM To: Bender, Chris Cc: Jon Radel; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure 2012-02-25 19:39, Bender, Chris skrev: > There aren't any firewalls between the devices but they are far apart. I can telnet from x to a and I can ssh from a to x. Have you tried the correct IP from A to X? Try dig -x and dig . Can you ping X from A? Try telnet to X from A with the hostname of X. Have X changed IP-address? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:53:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1726106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8118FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1PLr1F3083224; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:53:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F495826.5010709@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:52:38 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bender, Chris" References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> <7409DAB4-F76A-493B-9A50-A663E6F6802E@cellularatsea.com> <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:53:05 -0000 2012-02-25 22:44, Bender, Chris skrev: > NP on all counts..... > > Names and IPs are same results using both digson A and resolving. > In fact both are identical results on A and B. I can easily ssh > user@X-Username >> From a too. > > The issue doesn't appear be at getting to X the issues is something to > do with the service on X. > I amnot sure if postfix has certs, or password. I don't see anything on > the maillog of X when the email from A > Is sent to it. Maillog on A says connection timed out. What is the output on X for ps ax|grep libexec/postfix/smtpd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:55:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E9D1065674 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD548FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so665265ggn.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 10.236.197.74 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.197.74; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 10.236.197.74 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jerry@seibercom.net Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.197.74]) by 10.236.197.74 with SMTP id s50mr13036194yhn.127.1330206939337 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.197.74 with SMTP id s50mr9794855yhn.127.1330206939243; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm14974271anl.17.2012.02.25.13.55.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3TwNQc56l6z2CG4D for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:55:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:55:36 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120225165536.082b0b4e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkxcNkwlhNO135Gwmn4IhUFiX3j3VYmjweSnccURxDrKqyainQnFFaNQSnKBv7983EyIFFV Subject: Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:55:40 -0000 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > supposed to be used for installing a printer works. USB sucks on FreeBSD. Sorry, I don't care who gets pissed off about that remark. Apparently, your printer only supports USB. If you have just purchased it, I might recommend returning it and getting one that is wireless ready. Believe me, you will appreciate the flexibility that offers. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:56:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EB010656B0 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9B28FC15 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13023E580; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:56:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1PLuhMd007038; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:56:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:56:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20120225225643.32e0cd21.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:56:45 -0000 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:26:29 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Hope this can help: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=27666 > > There are many things that could be interfering? Done as explained in the thread. Even # cp /usr/local/share/examples/cups/ulpt-cupsd.conf /usr/local/etc/devd has been done. > - Create /etc/devfs.rules with the following, which sets the > permissions and associates print devices with the cups group: > > [system=10] > add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups > add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups > add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups Checked and already present. I think I should not have to fiddle with the ugen* devices? Note: The scanner is currently not interesting to me, but sane-find-scanners reports it: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04e8 [Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.], product=0x3425 [CLX-216x Series]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen4.2 The printer should be on a similar address, but it does already pop up as ulpt device which should be good. :-) An additional ulpt0: output error message appear in the system log after the device is recognized (plugged in). I also made a comparable set of settings in /etc/devfs.conf if the printer is detected at boot time. own ulpt0 root:cups perm ulpt0 0666 own unlpt0 root:cups perm unlpt0 0666 That should be fine. > - Add root and other users to cups group in /etc/group Done. > - Enable CUPS and the above rules at startup by adding these lines to > /etc/rc.conf: > > cupsd_enable="YES" > devfs_system_ruleset="system" Also already done. I'm already running CUPS to address the HP Laerjet 4000d via LAN (what a waste, I know). > Then hopefully the printer shows up in cups http://localhost:631 :) No auto-detection, no local printers to be configured. :-( > If none of this works, you may try adding the apsfilter port and use > it to configure the printer? But see if the above helps. I've been using apsfilter in the past happily as it could even to things like % lpr sometext.txt but CUPS truncates the output as soon as an Umlaut or Eszett appears. Great multilingual tool. :-) As I said, I "have" (note the quotes) to use CUPS because many programs say so. For example, Opera doesn't play with system's lpr anymore, Gimp has hardcoded stuff in it, and I believe many programs will follow this road... Anyway, I will surely dump CUPS as it doesn't work for me. Brings no benefit, even the simplest things (adding a printer by specifying port and type) is _impossible_). I'll begin to write a lpr printer filter instead. That has been proven to work (see initial message). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 21:57:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E39106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F068FC1D for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id D3F23180D9C; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:56:23 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AF8C4180D8F; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B730B1885D; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 25 Feb 2012 16:57:19 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-vipre-scanned: 06E4C8DE002D4506E4CA2B Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:57:17 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4F495826.5010709@bananmonarki.se> Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure Thread-Index: Acz0B9rcG3S3g6ONT4Clbslv1uNZ1AAAGMxA References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> <7409DAB4-F76A-493B-9A50-A663E6F6802E@cellularatsea.com> <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFC11@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F495826.5010709@bananmonarki.se> From: "Bender, Chris" To: "Bernt Hansson" X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: bah@bananmonarki.se X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33020-48376) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: RE: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:57:37 -0000 tools2# ps ax|grep libexec/postfix/smtpdps ax|grep libexec/postfix/smtpd tools2# ps ax|grep libexec/postfix/smtpd 53297 20 R+J 0:00.00 grep libexec/postfix/smtpd tools2# ps -af | grep smtp 53300 20 R+J 0:00.00 grep smtp tools2# ps -af | grep postfix 53305 20 R+J 0:00.00 grep postfix tools2# ps -ax| more PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 20417 ?? SsJ 0:00.09 /usr/sbin/syslogd -ss 20482 ?? SsJ 0:00.45 /usr/local/libexec/vsftpd 20603 ?? IsJ 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/squid -D 20610 ?? SJ 0:01.97 (squid) -D (squid) 20699 ?? SsJ 0:00.26 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master I don't see sendmail or smtp=20 -----Original Message----- From: Bernt Hansson [mailto:bah@bananmonarki.se]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:53 PM To: Bender, Chris Cc: Jon Radel; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure 2012-02-25 22:44, Bender, Chris skrev: > NP on all counts..... > > Names and IPs are same results using both digson A and resolving. > In fact both are identical results on A and B. I can easily ssh=20 > user@X-Username >> From a too. > > The issue doesn't appear be at getting to X the issues is something= to > do with the service on X. > I amnot sure if postfix has certs, or password. I don't see anything=20 > on the maillog of X when the email from A Is sent to it. Maillog on= A > says connection timed out. What is the output on X for ps ax|grep libexec/postfix/smtpd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 22:04:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B2A1065672 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442A58FC16 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F693DBB5 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:03:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1PM3wMR007077 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:03:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:03:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20120225230358.096ceeb9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120225165536.082b0b4e@scorpio> References: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120225165536.082b0b4e@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:04:00 -0000 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:55:36 -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0100 > Polytropon articulated: > > > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > > supposed to be used for installing a printer works. > > USB sucks on FreeBSD. In regards to some devices - yes, I fully agree. > Sorry, I don't care who gets pissed off about > that remark. I don't. It's not the first time I get annoyed by USB. :-) > Apparently, your printer only supports USB. Sadly yes, it's the "no-letter" variant (no N for networked or W for wireless). CUPS seems to be unable to detect that printer even though it is connected (as I could print to it without CUPS successfully). However, CUPS always seemed to have some trouble with connected _local_ printers, I remember that it was impossible to install a locally connected parallel printer (needed for specific forms), and it was also impossible to install a printer that's _currently_ not connected (even though I knew all its paramters). > If you have > just purchased it, I might recommend returning it and getting one that > is wireless ready. No such deal, I got this printer as "payment" (others would say, for free), just purchased new toner cartridges, and the "press button and make a color copy" function works quite well. As I've mostly used this printer as a "dull copier", I thought I could _easily_ (in CUPS's terminology!) use it as a printer. Ha ha. :-) I _never_ would buy a USB printer, and I would also never buy something that doesn't talk PS (or at least PCL). > Believe me, you will appreciate the flexibility that > offers. Regular wired networking printer would have been fine too. I use my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex that way - works like a charm, out of the box, no fiddling with annoying details. However, that HP is _office_ equipment, while the Samsung is for living room use. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 22:07:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419A6106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A768FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so5982039iae.13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cpghost@cordula.ws designates 10.42.46.76 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.42.46.76; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cpghost@cordula.ws designates 10.42.46.76 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cpghost@cordula.ws Received: from mr.google.com ([10.42.46.76]) by 10.42.46.76 with SMTP id j12mr8314834icf.22.1330207656567 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:07:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.46.76 with SMTP id j12mr6665975icf.22.1330207656466; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.8.30 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:07:36 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.198] In-Reply-To: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:07:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl5YQonZPQooxUmCGzJoVb7mztYAAO1hOVzCRdvlcznaOZocY7SKHia75ijpI28x/nne3uN Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:07:37 -0000 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > supposed to be used for installing a printer works. (... snip ...) > What am I doing wrong? :-) Have you heeded *all* the advices here? /usr/ports/print/cups-base/pkg-message Permissions are usually the culprit when CUPS doesn't work. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 22:09:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882FB1065670 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A458FC15 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1PM9loa083815; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:09:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F495C14.4050909@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:09:24 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bender, Chris" References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> <7409DAB4-F76A-493B-9A50-A663E6F6802E@cellularatsea.com> <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> <4F495826.5010709@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4F495826.5010709@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:09:51 -0000 2012-02-25 22:52, Bernt Hansson skrev: > 2012-02-25 22:44, Bender, Chris skrev: >> NP on all counts..... >> >> Names and IPs are same results using both digson A and resolving. >> In fact both are identical results on A and B. I can easily ssh >> user@X-Username >>> From a too. >> >> The issue doesn't appear be at getting to X the issues is something to >> do with the service on X. >> I amnot sure if postfix has certs, or password. I don't see anything on >> the maillog of X when the email from A >> Is sent to it. Maillog on A says connection timed out. > > What is the output on X for ps ax|grep libexec/postfix/smtpd Also try, on X, netstat -aptcp | grep smtp. It should be something along the line of; tcp4 0 0 *.smtp *.* LISTEN Is the postfix machine running freebsd? Found this on postfix.org http://www.postfix.org/smtpd.8.html "As of Postfix version 2.3, the SMTP server refuses to receive mail from the network when it runs with non $mail_owner privileges" $mail_owner = http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mail_owner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 22:14:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4E7106566C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597128FC14 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-185-71.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.185.71]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784453D6FE; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:14:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q1PME9jB007341; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:14:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:14:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-Id: <20120225231409.fdd67bff.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20120225221433.cba3d0dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:10 -0000 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:07:36 +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > > supposed to be used for installing a printer works. > > (... snip ...) > > > What am I doing wrong? :-) > > Have you heeded *all* the advices here? > /usr/ports/print/cups-base/pkg-message > > Permissions are usually the culprit when CUPS doesn't work. Done (even with the variation of 0660 vs. 0770 as suggested in that file): [system=10] add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'usb/4.2.*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'usb*' mode 0770 group cups Same result == no result. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <243663009.20120226001601@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: A problem internal to GDB has been detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:16:06 -0000 # gdb GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd". (gdb) attach 0 Attaching to process 0 ptrace: Invalid argument. (gdb) attach 12 Attaching to process 12 ptrace: Invalid argument. (gdb) attach 9058 Attaching to process 9058 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/libgdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/solib-svr4.c:1443: internal-error: legacy_fetch_link_map_offsets called without legacy link_map support enabled. A problem internal to GDB has been detected, further debugging may prove unreliable. Quit this debugging session? (y or n) y /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gdb/libgdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/solib-svr4.c:1443: internal-error: legacy_fetch_link_map_offsets called without legacy link_map support enabled. A problem internal to GDB has been detected, further debugging may prove unreliable. Create a core file of GDB? (y or n) y Abort (core dumped) (gdb) core gdb.core Core was generated by `gdb'. Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. #0 0x0000000800e23aac in ?? () bt shows long list and fineshed as: #999 0x0000000000000001 in ?? () #1000 0x00007fffffffebc8 in ?? () #1001 0x0000000000000017 in ?? () Cannot access memory at address 0x800000000000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 22:30:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BA11065670 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DC88FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 68365180CC1; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:28:56 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FB08180B3D; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 18AE4B18944; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 25 Feb 2012 17:29:51 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-vipre-scanned: 0702911C002D4607029269 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:29:48 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4F495C14.4050909@bananmonarki.se> Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure Thread-Index: Acz0Cjfgv2QUir6DT8ibF8sIv276wgAALLKA References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> <7409DAB4-F76A-493B-9A50-A663E6F6802E@cellularatsea.com> <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> <4F495826.5010709@bananmonarki.se> <4F495C14.4050909@bananmonarki.se> From: "Bender, Chris" To: "Bernt Hansson" X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: bah@bananmonarki.se X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33020-48394) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: RE: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:30:06 -0000 Hi Brent,=20 Thanks for that, I am still digesting it. tools2# uname -a FreeBSD tools2 8.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p2 # So I put a 0 in the first two octets of the ip address below, but that IP address is A. I am not sure what that means. I was horsing around and tried to start sendmail On X then I tried to send an email from A. I have no idea what all that means.=20 Here is netstat results: netstat: kvm not available: /dev/mem: No such file or directory tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp 0.0.81.10.33679 SYN_RCVD tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp *.* LISTEN What is non $mail_owner privileges or how to determine that? tools2# postconf -d | grep mail_version mail_version =3D 2.7.0 milter_macro_v =3D $mail_name $mail_version I am still not sure about the non mail owner issue yet, but I would think because this has run in the past that it wouldn't have changed. And how do I run smtp as a non mail user when I am root? Hopfully we are getting somewhere..... Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Bernt Hansson [mailto:bah@bananmonarki.se]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:09 PM To: Bender, Chris Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Jon Radel Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure 2012-02-25 22:52, Bernt Hansson skrev: > 2012-02-25 22:44, Bender, Chris skrev: >> NP on all counts..... >> >> Names and IPs are same results using both digson A and resolving. >> In fact both are identical results on A and B. I can easily ssh=20 >> user@X-Username >>> From a too. >> >> The issue doesn't appear be at getting to X the issues is something=20 >> to do with the service on X. >> I amnot sure if postfix has certs, or password. I don't see anything=20 >> on the maillog of X when the email from A Is sent to it. Maillog on= A >> says connection timed out. > > What is the output on X for ps ax|grep libexec/postfix/smtpd Also try, on X, netstat -aptcp | grep smtp. It should be something along the line of; tcp4 0 0 *.smtp *.* LISTEN Is the postfix machine running freebsd? Found this on postfix.org http://www.postfix.org/smtpd.8.html "As of Postfix version 2.3, the SMTP server refuses to receive mail from the network when it runs with non $mail_owner privileges" $mail_owner =3D http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mail_owner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 23:11:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04675106564A for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407D78FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q1PNB8ji085448; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:11:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4F496A74.8070209@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:10:44 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111229 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bender, Chris" References: <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBAE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48BAF6.9070204@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBE7@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48EC21.7040805@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBEE@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F48F45F.4080304@ifdnrg.com> <863259E16B6C464DAD1E9DD10BB31154059CFBF4@wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com> <4F492262.5090505@radel.com> <7409DAB4-F76A-493B-9A50-A663E6F6802E@cellularatsea.com> <4F49519B.7050701@bananmonarki.se> <4F495826.5010709@bananmonarki.se> <4F495C14.4050909@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:11:14 -0000 2012-02-25 23:29, Bender, Chris skrev: > Hi Brent, > Thanks for that, I am still digesting it. > > tools2# uname -a > FreeBSD tools2 8.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p2 # > > So I put a 0 in the first two octets of the ip address below, but that > IP address is A. > I am not sure what that means. I was horsing around and tried to start > sendmail > On X then I tried to send an email from A. I have no idea what all that > means. > > Here is netstat results: > netstat: kvm not available: /dev/mem: No such file or directory > tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp 0.0.81.10.33679 SYN_RCVD > tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp *.* LISTEN Ok. I'm stabbing in the dark here, but didn't you say that X was a jail system? Is every postfix process in a jail? I have never used a jailed system. So my WILD guess it's a something with jail, or jail setup. > What is non $mail_owner privileges or how to determine that? > > tools2# postconf -d | grep mail_version > mail_version = 2.7.0 > milter_macro_v = $mail_name $mail_version > > I am still not sure about the non mail owner issue yet, but I would > think because this has run in the past that it wouldn't have changed. > And how do I run smtp as a non mail user when I am root? > > Hopfully we are getting somewhere..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 25 23:55:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4524A106566B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris_bender@cellularatsea.com) Received: from wireless.icgws.com (wireless.icgws.com [198.211.94.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC9E8FC1B for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 58AC7180D4E; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:53:52 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on wireless.icgws.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (unknown [10.200.250.42]) by wireless.icgws.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EA0BD180D14; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmstp.corp.cellularatsea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AF71B18947; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com ([10.200.104.15] helo=wmsexg01.corp.cellularatsea.com) by wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com with SMTP (ASSP 1.9.1.1); 25 Feb 2012 18:54:45 -0500 X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-vipre-scanned: 07505018002D4607505165 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Email issues, relay failure, perhaps Jails is causing it. Thread-Index: Acz0GLnxUeXmQ3tvTFuT4bQM7AITFw== From: "Bender, Chris" To: "Bernt Hansson" X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes () X-Assp-Envelope-From: chris_bender@cellularatsea.com X-Assp-Intended-For: bah@bananmonarki.se X-Assp-Passing: 10.200.104.15 in acceptAllMail X-Assp-ID: wmstp.corp.wms.cellularatsea.com (33021-48477) X-Assp-Version: 1.9.1.1(1.0.00) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: RE: Email issues, relay failure, perhaps Jails is causing it. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:55:18 -0000 Hi Brent Yes the system we are calling X, is jailed by another system.=20 Here is the jailer system: zs1# netstat -aptcp | grep smtp tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp 10.156.31.20.45081 SYN_RCVD tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 rt3.smtp *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 npims.smtp *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 wiki.smtp *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 localhost.smtp *.* LISTEN I see smtp running on several systems it has jailed including system X. I see above a smtp conversation between system X and 10.156.31.20. But that is never delivered from what I have seen. I am not sure about the queues Or how to see in postfix what exactly is happening? I think a lot of this stopped working after we rebooted the jailer system. Jails really should have no affect on This it is a virtual machine essentially, at least that is my thoughts. What happen to your thought that snmp needs to run as a non mailer system? Thanks regards -----Original Message----- From: Bernt Hansson [mailto:bah@bananmonarki.se]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:11 PM To: Bender, Chris Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Jon Radel Subject: Re: Email issues, relay failure 2012-02-25 23:29, Bender, Chris skrev: > Hi Brent, > Thanks for that, I am still digesting it. > > tools2# uname -a > FreeBSD tools2 8.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p2 # > > So I put a 0 in the first two octets of the ip address below, but =20 > that IP address is A. > I am not sure what that means. I was horsing around and tried to start > sendmail On X then I tried to send an email from A. I have no idea=20 > what all that means. > > Here is netstat results: > netstat: kvm not available: /dev/mem: No such file or directory > tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp 0.0.81.10.33679 SYN_RCVD > tcp4 0 0 tools2.smtp *.* LISTEN Ok. I'm stabbing in the dark here, but didn't you say that X was a jail system? Is every postfix process in a jail? I have never used a jailed system. So my WILD guess it's a something with jail, or jail setup. > What is non $mail_owner privileges or how to determine that? > > tools2# postconf -d | grep mail_version mail_version =3D 2.7.0=20 > milter_macro_v =3D $mail_name $mail_version > > I am still not sure about the non mail owner issue yet, but I would=20 > think because this has run in the past that it wouldn't have changed. > And how do I run smtp as a non mail user when I am root? > > Hopfully we are getting somewhere.....