From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 00:16:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEEC1065674 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BF58FC0C for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23228 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2012 00:16:44 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 24 Jun 2012 00:16:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=4fe65c6c.xn--9vv.k1206; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=LDD6aVUNNNanaE9AjDvsXmmeRmcDKM+1ei57CZXlyUU=; b=BHA28/0EmX5zXw7VmGldAeEZNwvwwOGwrt4+rtC0vQkSFtZ5ufCy+SvFk8hHklg5deyCYXh1UIS/goGqW1ygLFo0jxOUCG1SprOvMevwysm5I6HZSg4iS/XBVJp1bUy2BhHsj4yndBLElbj4OXfgUvZG2mAP+ImULZZ9QIvK3G0= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 24 Jun 2012 00:16:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20120624001622.17052.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20120623235751.12443.qmail@joyce.lan> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: johnl@iecc.com Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:16:46 -0000 >> snafu on my part freebsd 8.3 also uses zfs pool version 28:-) > >No, 8.3 uses version 15. It's been quite stable for me. Sorry, I misread my notes, 8.2 uses v 15, 8.3 uses v 28. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 00:27:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D8C1065677 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B991B8FC16 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so4075409dad.13 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:27:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5aqevKXlX3AJady0ERsz65yJiuqSWfm8FMvW/pi5Jps=; b=ehbZWyi1cHQRHoIt47pxGdfhXJFIoHgEeBHMyeTg9zMq+kYjXT4gTOYwRXRz9QfbP/ edtzZzfU6lkqETS7VtPP6T4S3gP2VGFIFrETxr7yMoVRb6wkvJj5LunOjn3ZlzPyMJFx LvGgblicU6wWCRLQmKUHoLLgtyeYK0oPdRrV/yjqyE2ggKIZiCCWgmh2Txa+Vjg00w1D mooxJ1HhDUvM6/gJsAlZ0wZiuyvZqVToJm+Po2qf+u3XtfTBd3Rp9VDPz4laIG/387xb 0INNvsFwxqQW0s/rd+wHlzi25Xk9NHPqG+JyQjTLxQUrltHQ9DD5DUJmmwWKRL2wu2im X1ow== Received: by 10.68.217.234 with SMTP id pb10mr25027373pbc.79.1340497665293; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u5sm3681809pbu.76.2012.06.23.17.27.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE6602C.2050800@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:32:44 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Levine References: <20120624001622.17052.qmail@joyce.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120624001622.17052.qmail@joyce.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:27:46 -0000 On 06/23/2012 05:16 PM, John Levine wrote: > Sorry, I misread my notes, 8.2 uses v 15, 8.3 uses v 28. > > R's, > John yeah, I remember version 15 was really stable. Opensolaris 2009.06 last binary production ready, used version 14; i also found it to be stable Any opensource zfs pool verisons beyound that, i am not really sure about their stablity compared to UFS rock solid filesystem. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 09:59:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327291065677 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84938FC0C for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:59:35 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=86GbDLi7NS7TegNzg0A2mmhQWIv0QOIIryOgdPqEZ2g= c=1 sm=0 a=E0PmOuizPAoA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=Fr8x0r-PAAAA:8 a=KcXblVTqaASLL7XRugcA:9 a=u3ADXx2HrWQA:10 a=4g4HWHfsz2BsLMqs:21 a=_JAoLMo8NoKLs5Od:21 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:60159] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id BE/E8-12873-005E6EF4; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:59:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:59:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: USB system: FreeBSD 9-STABLE and 10-CURRENT do not recognize 64GB USB drive while Linux and Windows do X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:59:36 -0000 > Hi, > On Saturday 23 June 2012 15:08:53 Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I don't think I ever tried to connect a USB 2.0 device to 3.0 port, but I > > tried the opposite. > I have here 2 hard disks and 2 flash drives with USB 2.0. Three of them work > on FreeBSD on an USB 3.0 port. One hard disk only works on a USB 3.0 port. > One hard drive with USB 3.0 does not work on USB 3.0 but only on 2.0. > Irony is that the PCBSD installer installed PCBSD on the USB 3.0 disk but it > did not boot afterward. > > I tried to access that USB 3.0 hard drive on the new computer from USB 2.0 > > port because NetBSD has no USB 3.0 support: no go. > Let me check this out. > > But when I installed USB 2.0 brackets to USB 2.0 headers on the > > motherboard, the USB 3.0 hard drive was accessible from those USB 2.0 > > ports. > Same as in my case. > USB is more a lottery than real computing for me. > Erich I suppose I could say NetBSD is more a lottery than real computing, especially on the new computer. But some of the bugs are consistent. My USB 3.0 hard drive is not bootable (motherboard issue?), also does not show on Grub2 Super Grub Disk on the System Rescue CD menu sysresccd.org Maybe the latter could be fixed by building Grub2 from source under either Linux or FreeBSD Ports. I think I'd also like to build the gdisk port, both on main hard drive and on a bootable FreeBSD USB stick. One USB stick (PNY 1 GB) is no longer readable/mountable from FreeBSD though it is from Linux. I thought that might be corruption. Since I have all that data now on an Ativa 4 GB USB stick, I could install the latest System Rescue CD to the PNY 1 GB USB stick (runs Linux on FAT32), see if there are any problems. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 18:00:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F4067106566C for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0BF8FC0A for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5OI0Biv001958 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) From: Dennis Glatting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:00:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1340560811.1003.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q5OI0Biv001958 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com Subject: AMD Radeon CUDA under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:00:18 -0000 I found useful blogs regarding NVIDIA but nothing useful how to get CUDA installed for the AMD Radeon series chips under FreeBSD, native or Linux. Would someone please point me to a clue? Google wasn't helpful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 18:15:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF61106564A for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa14.ono.com (smtp14.ono.com [62.42.230.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F87C8FC0C for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GogPortatil.retena.com (37.11.164.89) by resmaa14.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4FA8828000C72AB9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:15:41 +0200 Message-ID: <4FA8828000C72AB9@> (added by postmaster@resmaa14.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:18:20 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eduardo Morras In-Reply-To: <1340560811.1003.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> References: <1340560811.1003.2.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 2012.0.2180 [2437/5090] Subject: Re: AMD Radeon CUDA under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:15:49 -0000 At 20:00 24/06/2012, Dennis Glatting wrote: >I found useful blogs regarding NVIDIA but nothing useful how to get CUDA >installed for the AMD Radeon series chips under FreeBSD, native or >Linux. > >Would someone please point me to a clue? Google wasn't helpful. AFAIK AMD has no official driver for freebsd. Most of the AMD GPGPU tools only work for Windows, some on Linux. You must know that AMD doesn't have a CUDA licence, only an OpenCL, so you can't use CUDA code on AMDs gpus. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 19:56:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB6A106567A for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:56:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from pop.cape.com (pop.cape.com [209.213.66.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A088FC17 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.cape.com (pop.cape.com [127.0.0.1]) by pop.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FFB1FCB7A; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209.213.65.17 (SquirrelMail authenticated user crtb) by webmail.cape.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <60166.209.213.65.17.1340567285.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:48:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chuck Bacon" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Chuck Bacon Subject: Building 9.0 failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:56:03 -0000 Running 9.0 on host, bsdinstall from CD or ftp. Fatal message: Error while extracting base.txz: Can't set user=0/group=0 for /var/empty Can't update time for /var/empty Chuck Bacon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 20:19:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A511065680 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cutulhu@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68748FC16 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so6854582obb.13 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KBP4ExsydqEzAx4wD2OwDNJY35grloEdXQOupELzfW0=; b=NiuOcb6JliTXv0J6R6FbK66syde+PCAg8/xOt4jE16hR5GNdTJ6WMtzk7VJej+A858 VQ7Pe+3/LUSmROiwCrAsq9BGdqDaeVQOm+UXrA1W0X6xzNUo5E600B6f4C4IluqlLJmY XLJFOSbOgrWypbhQoHuupCesF/1J8XlVf+gEkcZ5Ra5CwmiCREW0q/DdLinku1l2DEiI d/gM2IIfpkvOSfJur6MUOn+t4cEWRCyt3mHdys/2sMCvgzyd8GRsk/qdlslFDpZJs+Rf Pdd5rVA5eTkqiWNC/oEOHaEtKpiKylra8I3v7FKVhdDwtPxpfeAloH34VSwiI2duGH/Q mD9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.219.162 with SMTP id pp2mr6632889igc.40.1340569194262; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.64.196 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:19:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: Christian Graulund To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Understanding XDM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:19:55 -0000 Hello Guys, I just install FreeBSD 9, and after compiling Xorg, I started trying to figure out how to install a Window Manager. When Following the handbook, I suggest installing XDM. I want to use something like Openbox, as my window manager, and I can't figure out if Openbox is a replacement for XDM, or something on top of XDM. I now there are alternative to XDM directly like LightDM ect., but the same questions applies to them. So what is the function of XDM (or alternatives), and is it necessary to have to run a WM, or DE for that sake? Thanks Christian G From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 20:36:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E251065673 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265728FC17 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-5.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.5]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E413D3A9; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:36:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5OKaDmJ002316; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:36:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:36:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Chuck Bacon" Message-Id: <20120624223613.e7d437d1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <60166.209.213.65.17.1340567285.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> References: <60166.209.213.65.17.1340567285.squirrel@webmail.cape.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building 9.0 failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:36:21 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:48:05 -0400 (EDT), Chuck Bacon wrote: > Running 9.0 on host, bsdinstall from CD or ftp. > Fatal message: > Error while extracting base.txz: > Can't set user=0/group=0 for /var/empty > Can't update time for /var/empty Looks like file flags (noschg). See if you can apply "chflags noschg" for that directory and maybe try again? Should be something like this (on 8.2-STABLE/i386 here): % ll -do /var/empty dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel schg 512 2012-05-27 06:15:34 /var/empty/ ^^^^ Probably noschg? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 20:40:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38121065675 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831408FC08 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-5.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.5]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF8A3D3F6; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:40:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5OKepja002331; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:40:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:40:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Christian Graulund Message-Id: <20120624224051.a413bce6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Understanding XDM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:40:52 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:19:54 +0200, Christian Graulund wrote: > Hello Guys, > > I just install FreeBSD 9, and after compiling Xorg, I started trying to > figure out how to install a Window Manager. > When Following the handbook, I suggest installing XDM. I want to use > something like Openbox, as my window manager, and I can't figure out if > Openbox is a replacement for XDM, or something on top of XDM. Not quite. XDM is the X display manager, a "GUI replacement" for the login mechanism. It initiates the X session for the user and loads his startup file, which calls the desired window manager. > I now there > are alternative to XDM directly like LightDM ect., but the same questions > applies to them. Yes, there are other X display managers like KDM, GDM or WDM. They are designed to work with a specific environment (KDE, Gnome, WindowMaker in this example), but they can be used independently. > So what is the function of XDM (or alternatives), and is it necessary to > have to run a WM, or DE for that sake? No, it's not neccessary. You can still perform the login the traditional way (text mode console) and then call "startx" to initiate your X session with the window manager or desktop environment you want. See "man xdm" for details. Also see your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession files for controlling what to do _after_ successful login, in your example to "exec openbox" as the last step. Sidenote: I've been using both XDM and WDM with WindowMaker and XFCE (not Xfce -- XFCE means version 3, Xfce means version 4). Works great. I prefer XDM, most secure and easy to use. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 20:50:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077FD1065674 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F198FC1A for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SitlU-0002Ox-VH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:50:37 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:50:36 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:50:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 86 Message-ID: References: <26.30.12873.06EE2EF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120621230302.GB575@hemlock.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1) Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:50:46 -0000 Chad Perrin apotheon.com> writes: > > Anyway, switching from GCC to Clang has essentially nothing to do with > the kinds of problems we increasingly see in the Linux world. In fact, > one of the biggest problems in the Linux world is the fact that GNU > projects have a tendency to degrade in quality over time and pretty > thoroughly undermine the Unix philosophy in egregious ways, which means > that the sooner we can divest ourselves of GNU tools (including GCC) the > better off we will probably be (though I would still advocate a measured > approach to replacing GNU tools, rather than a headlong rush without any > forethought). > Some Linux distros are starting to integrate clang into their environment. GPL had been introduced to address certain philosophical problems felt by devs, namely how to make sure that their products do not get hijacked by people who do not want to contribute back (because they are unscrupulous, or do not share with devs the same values). Fair enough. GPL has not been challenged in court of law perhaps for a good reason yet. One could be that its enemies are content with what it represents in their view and so why should they bother trying to protect its followers from hurting themselves ? They believe that GPL is viral, but not fascist yet and anybody of different philosophy can just ignore it and go their own licensing way. Another could be that its enemies want it to reach a critical mass of participation, so when they hit, it will be big time and hopefully deadly. Things like that need time, and perhaps some errors by GPL advocates. It is also possible (why not ?) that GPL will self-destruct - there are indications that they are going down, down, down as a choice of license. I believe GPL can be confusing in its interpretation - even its followers are confused, and that's the seeds of destructions as I see it (btw, I have participated in some discussion of GPL that made me and other participant feel its current interpretation is vulnerable, and so with potential significant effect on a business model dependent on it.). GPLv3 apparently introduced a very sensitive question: Does GPLv3 apply to gcc only, or it *may* apply to code generated by gcc as well ? and until it gets answered any responsible dev or business should stay away from it. If so, then it follows that the dev or the bussiness do not want to live in a "LaLaLand according to GPL"; they want to conduct activities based on sound rules - who in her right mind would blame them for that ? So, you cut the GPL cord now and go your own way, the sooner the better. This is the most important factor, in any business - clarity of contract, license law. I would strongly disagree with Wojciech's assertion that only performance of compiler generated code really counts. >From the software purchaser's point of view, yes, she wants the app that was paid for fast, let's be realistic. But if you consider devs or software houses, that will be more subtle. I think the design and maintainability of compiler source code decides about quality of that tool in a significant way, equally or perhaps even little more than its speed or that of generated code alone - after all it is a tool on which software product depends now and in the future. And this translates into e.g. maintenance costs, a matter of interest to purchaser of software and others, in general the so called users. I am more concerned about an aspect of the language the clang tools are written in, namely the use of object-oriented paradigm of c++ (it is a phony paradigm, one that does not exist in nature or reality, which explains the failure rate of C++ OO projects historically and current usage decline). I sense that the relative slowness of generated code has to do with it. Perhaps some other attributes of that code's quality too, even if not now, then in the future. As one can see even by the test results done in 2010: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=gcc_llvm_clang&num=1 clang looked good vice gcc. There was an improvement since then, e.g.: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5Nzc Once again, in a matter like choice of tools you make your living with, you should not gamble - the more clarity you have the better. Once you decide what your philosophy, license model, and business requiremnts are, you just go and do not look back. The choice was made (perhaps GPL helped make that choice ...) - it is clang compiler tools. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 20:54:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12385106567B for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8918FC08 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 24 Jun 2012 16:54:20 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BVD30603; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:54:20 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 24 Jun 2012 16:54:20 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20455.32379.5672.398372@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:54:19 -0400 To: Christian Graulund In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Understanding XDM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:54:27 -0000 Christian Graulund writes: > I just install FreeBSD 9, and after compiling Xorg, I started trying to > figure out how to install a Window Manager. > When Following the handbook, I suggest installing XDM. Assuming we're talking about the same xdm ... your first problem is it's not window manager. It's a _display_ manager. The cenonical place to set the window manager seems to be in ~/.xinitrc. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 21:17:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC30106564A for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D0A8FC1B for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SiuBK-00069m-IE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:17:18 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:17:18 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:17:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Understanding XDM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:17:20 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:19:54 +0200, Christian Graulund wrote: > Hello Guys, > > I just install FreeBSD 9, and after compiling Xorg, I started trying to > figure out how to install a Window Manager. > When Following the handbook, I suggest installing XDM. I want to use > something like Openbox, as my window manager, and I can't figure out if > Openbox is a replacement for XDM, or something on top of XDM. I now > there are alternative to XDM directly like LightDM ect., but the same > questions applies to them. > > So what is the function of XDM (or alternatives), and is it necessary to > have to run a WM, or DE for that sake? XDM is not a window manager - it is a display manager. In short it provides a GUI login and then starts your window manager of choice. So if you want a GUI login and a GUI DE, you need both a DM and an WM. I use XDM + Openbox, and it works very well indeed for me. Vastly preferable to some heavyweight like GDM, IMHO. The handbook provides excellent guidance on installing and configuring XDM. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 21:51:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5AB106566C for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E2C8FC12 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SiuiZ-0000HF-NA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:51:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1340574699711-5721495.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <26.30.12873.06EE2EF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120621230302.GB575@hemlock.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:51:40 -0000 > I am more concerned about an aspect of the language the clang tools are > written in, namely the use of object-oriented paradigm of c++ (it is a > phony > paradigm, one that does not exist in nature or reality, which explains > the failure rate of C++ OO projects historically and current usage > decline). > I sense that the relative slowness of generated code has to do with it. > Perhaps > some other attributes of that code's quality too, even if not now, then in > the > future. Yes, this is one thing really puzzled me. Maybe it's related to Apple's affinity to Objective-C? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Why-Clang-tp5715861p5721495.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 22:38:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF01E1065670 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5298FC17 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so6162982pbb.13 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:38:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WfQHQ2PW+COjUD83C7+P/87S/ef94dgU4my07TQqT0w=; b=gd+nrzh2YnfNqd3s1AFabFt5L+TZkH2/I6VPZauXi9OWcL47ZBwOYV68LPh2SX1ayO AIoc9j48+0h/JlVaddAuvPCAdVzv5tMPHMZuS2qpvzS6j4tF0v6s6jOQBuIO8imZXiV6 Bru2vlXy+L3heWpRyriFAKiLW1XYca7k+qEmHj6Ul+UUCDchF5q7FwNBmwHpOM1TQr+7 Dd+F2r1Hiob51XyA8ZhkIrA+3fr9ORct2W0xogN0DqRscpsjYFXP9ivC/iQIUGljUx0G +ZBi2aqLr8+AlCT7/lf0/qi+3oUxlW8kckn4IR2/MiOIZZIJiKMn84+Js/r7P1ed7wcR YNtA== Received: by 10.68.134.161 with SMTP id pl1mr1133331pbb.29.1340577492246; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tq4sm6465327pbc.11.2012.06.24.15.38.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE79800.8000200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:43:12 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120624001622.17052.qmail@joyce.lan> <4FE6602C.2050800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:38:12 -0000 On 06/23/2012 10:38 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> last binary production ready, used version 14; i also found it >> to be stable >> Any opensource zfs pool verisons beyound that, i am not really sure >> about their stablity compared >> to UFS rock solid filesystem. > > No ZFS pool version can be as trusty as UFS because of ZFS on disk > structure that is plain dangerous. > > ZFS use tree-like structure for everything. If upper part of tree is > corrupted, everything below "disappears" and cannot be found. > > Having 2,3 or even 100 copies of metadata doesn't help if you would > have (maybe transient) hardware problem and bad metadata would be > writen 2,3 or even 100 times. with proper checksum of course. > > UFS uses flat structure - inodes in known places. superblocks are used > to find info about placement, and there are many copies of which only > first is updated under normal operation. > > In really unlikely case of all superblocks corrupted just use newfs on > virtual device (may be md) of same size, with same block and fragment > size, and byte per inode, and copy superblock from here. > Dont email me privately. I like ZFS design however i was only questioning v28 stability for production compared to a mature production tested UFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 22:51:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF93106564A for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0028FC1D for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4374EA70905 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3862 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2012 22:28:39 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 21473, pid: 19779, t: 0.1522s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Jun 2012 22:28:39 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CF2CF33C20; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:28:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" References: <20120623153710.36e7446f@dijkstra.cruwe.de> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:28:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20120623153710.36e7446f@dijkstra.cruwe.de> (Christopher J. Ruwe's message of "Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:37:10 +0200") Message-ID: <444nq0mjjd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing md5 hashed for sha X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:51:45 -0000 "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: > For setting the dafault hash used to hash /etc/master.passwd, it has > been recommended changing md5 for something more secure in the sense of > being more expensive to crack. > > The handbook describes the procedure used in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/crypt.html. > Allegedly, hashes which were hashed with one of the sha-functions begin > with the character $6$. > > Afer having changed my /etc/login.conf accordingly and having reset the > passwords, the given there is not md5 anymore (I have tried with md5), > but does not begin with the character $6$, but, as md5, with $1$, which > is supposed to be md5-hashed. I'm not following. Are you saying that you are resetting the passwords after setting login.conf, but new passwords aren't being created with the new hash type? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 23:06:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8451065675 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1D18FC14 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5ON6Ma1090013; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:06:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4FE79D5F.9020402@sentex.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:06:07 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" References: <20120623153710.36e7446f@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20120623153710.36e7446f@dijkstra.cruwe.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing md5 hashed for sha X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:06:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6/23/2012 9:37 AM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > For setting the dafault hash used to hash /etc/master.passwd, it > has been recommended changing md5 for something more secure in the > sense of being more expensive to crack. > > The handbook describes the procedure used in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/crypt.html. > > > Allegedly, hashes which were hashed with one of the sha-functions begin > with the character $6$. > > Afer having changed my /etc/login.conf accordingly and having > reset the passwords, the given there is not md5 anymore (I have > tried with md5), but does not begin with the character $6$, but, as > md5, with $1$, which is supposed to be md5-hashed. > > I fear I am a bit dense here, what am I getting wrong? Are you sure you ran cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf after adjusting the values in login.conf ? Also, this will only work on relatively recent versions of FreeBSD. ---Mike - -- - ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP551fAAoJEJXHwM2kc8rXS34H/j+uxWq8Pa9j0iXpehObx2iY LeeCZx7YbSv9AwGVHy/gTRtYP1uStBNn79oKV0ANSyjOT3F7l1MuygfJAqfXIKDm WdN4KX2D3tpAjVMdce1zX2rSy4OtXLYXpBXTiGmP2d/erAEtE9B8gJ8GQWDh0gWz 14CkQyefcF2YvmepSj3+9P69EzjlEm6vDMPyY/nrMlJcT8+ujtZX325+kQzQiiFX FFasbqekazHCUnKGZZY9arY01AxPKg5e2PXFZPQf3qQy3jHqOupnM3ei3D39O9aV gqJ/k2XDPjZYqAIy0gyPi99q4fCueYQFQrm2tyeTkV6+OxM8kdD5czx/FvySiG8= =FVSP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 23:41:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673FE106567D for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D984C8FC0A for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so3422420bkv.13 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=IZxq7yAFv4vOCMpzZKxYTM/qa4fYM39pmJpDGPecxfo=; b=pL8dpLWPRUtEE3ovpJldeJ5wPM6bhAs0hyYe0QE7pALVyz3d0OaXI8aY7zqiuuQcUm Wfn3Jz6Dq9K9eDQZ06Rskp/7gOHbm/M1Vhdh7uuZ5rU1DEyTBeeqmpnW7vaahaU/lqSp fjjBhVV4B/F2zz1qS+ZZEgknSA229Mp6GynXhlH0GJcpRsjkyYHY2h7iGT8hlCvEe3Ee a5Uvbl4PYQS9E082TAYgK40Xlmc6fAUjqTh3nTGLH4HJWWKQKp6bOxmK+Ny/bzAaqW1F 1MaFHGLL0RS84NkVhpHH1rAX4rWzmdBA+Jr2EOErwu0PcVO4ZA45um7JKzfLcRfQGgqm 8nrQ== Received: by 10.204.151.130 with SMTP id c2mr3471492bkw.125.1340581279698; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:41:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.205.24.131 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:40:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FE2CE38.9000100@gmail.com> <4FE32FF5.60603@ulb.ac.be> From: Ross Cameron Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:40:58 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qc_L5kjO1Rfjv5445FMbDqEzywE Message-ID: To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:41:21 -0000 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > One interesting feature of ZFS if it's block checksum: all reads and >> writes include block checksum, so it can easily detect situations where, >> for example, data is quietly corrupted by RAM. >> > > you may be shocked but you are sometimes wrong. i already demostrated it > and checksumming doesn't get any errors, and do write wrong data with right > checksums :) > > it's quite easy to explain if one understand hardware details. > > Checksumming will protect you from > > - failed SATA/SAS port, on-disk controller that returns bad data as good. > This is actually really rare case. i never seen that, but maybe it happens. > > - some types of DRAM failure - but not all. Actually just a small fraction > because DRAM failure like that would bring your system to crash so quickly > that you are unlikely to get big data corruption. > > Common case with DRAM memory is that after you write to it, keeps right > data some time and RARELY flips some bit later in spite of refresh. > > With this type you may run your machine for hours, even days or longer. > And ZFS would calculate proper checksum of wrong data and will write it to > disk. > > > This is the reason i keep few failed DIMMs - for testing how different > software behaves on broken machine. > > UFS resulted in few corrupted files after half a day of heavy work and 4 > crashes. fsck always recovered things well (of course "unexpected > softupdate inconsistency....") > > ZFS survived 2 crashes. After third it panicked on startup. > > Of course - no zfs_fsck. > And no possibility of making really good zfs_fsck because of data layout, > at least not easy. > > > > This feature is very important for databases. >> > is data integrity not important for the rest? :) > > Still - disks itself perform quite heavy ECC and both SATA and SAS ports. > While I don't dispute you're test's findings I would like to point out that you are SPECIFICALLY testing for something that the original designers of ZFS (SUN now Oracle) point out VERY clearly as being an issue that you should avoid in you're deployed environments. The filesystem is designed to protect the ON DISK data and being a highly memory intensive filesystem should ALWAYS be deployed on hardware with memory error correction build in (aka ECC RAM deployed across multiple banks). The filesystem comes from an hardware/OS environment that is HEAVILY BIASED towards "self healing" as they put it and as a result things like memory module issues would: 1) Either be corrected by the ECC modules 2) Be reported to the administrator of said system as soon as they occur (well on a system where you have such reporting setup correctly) As a result you're argument is moot....whilst you're findings are indeed still valid. UFS2 being MUCH lighter on RAM requirements is, well frankly, quite possibly not even interacting with the damaged sections of the memory modules in you're test and I am almost certain that if we were to ask around on this mailing list enough examples of UFS/UFS2 corruption due to faulty RAM are VERY VERY likely to come up. No filesystem (or other code for that matter) would be able to detect RAM content corruption (as this is NOT a filesystem's job) and correct it for you as frankly the kernel wouldn't know if the data in the buffers is correct or not without the application storing said data being coded to check for these conditions (I know of a patch to the Linux kernel that does indeed look for faulty RAM segments and works around them but I am *mostly*positive that no general purpose OS in current deployment does so as I have noticed that this behavior was VERY CPU intensive). Also (debate encouraged here) due to the COW nature of ZFS a zfs_fsck command is basically entirely unnecessary as 1) The last successfully completed write to the file will be intact and 2) Scrubbing the on disk content performs a much better filesystem maintenance than an fsck does and this can also be done online without impacting uptimes of you're systems/data availability. On my systems I specifically trigger a scrub (via the ZFS init script) whenever my systems are uncleanly shut down as I am willing to tolerate a slightly slower but available system in such conditions. While UFS2 is indeed an wonderfully reliable filesystem it (as with all things) is not suited to all tasks, there are many instances where I can see the features of ZFS far outweighing the detractions (as do I see the same for the converse state of affairs). While all the above is purely based on my understanding of ZFS (and I am one of the people working on a port to GNU/Linux - admittedly not directly but I spend a LOT of my time reading/cleaning up the code fork that I do use) and SUN's (now Oracle's) design/deployment documents,...it is still my opinion and I would encourage a debate on these opinions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 00:05:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518591065686 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F098FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2601703E for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:59:25 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:59:21 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:05:51 -0000 Aloha, I need to get an old parallel Omega Zip drive to work on a freeBSD 8.* to transfer some archives to new media. I have a problem with getting the OS to read the Omega Zip drive so it can be seen in dmesg to manually set the id correctly in /etc/fstab Flash drives and floppies show up but not Parallel Omegas. My wifes MS machine has no parallel input and my several FreeBSD boxes do but wont find the hardware. I used to use Omega Zip under FreeBSD 4.11. Thought these had been transferred years ago but they were only found recently. Any suggestions appreciated. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 00:13:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B523106564A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA2D8FC1E for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so3199344wer.13 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:13:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/FodWZowibBn5cTRviZgNAXQvOZ+fLWiap0fHVkImaM=; b=QiyTCmqXhVA0WsDokBPrj/XKhveSyfZ9w1kg2E0pFyR5MPGc40p5fAZN6FWXcYoTQX 9RgZpO9CWsSY5MKQWrJLreRQX2dLlccR3DlOEO9Y70UpT1Onh/LxZQ893nBWphPG0/DL CPOFyQg4BHu0TDLgRT/C0/BKTmMO2sTqU4xHulYtiyRdWe4KdgdEDtykQ1QrU3lWuWsp 64A3OX6UCEiIB1TmJO3FHgX5Z3YIPU47l2K5pMosh9VLHTBQE1MERa4pxVzu6gvmCp9m fh7/MhEfm2BHR/Hu6GvfBeoZvJCaqxRBuWpl40LWKCVMFkAsb1qUsAtJnAPNGg05Rl7H 4oWw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.98.39 with SMTP id ef7mr20653534wib.21.1340583180811; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.155 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:13:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:13:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: noc@hdk5.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:13:08 -0000 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Al Plant wrote: > > I need to get an old parallel Omega Zip drive to work on a freeBSD 8.* to > transfer some archives to new media. > > I have a problem with getting the OS to read the Omega Zip drive so it can > be seen in dmesg to manually set the id correctly in /etc/fstab Flash > drives and floppies show up but not Parallel Omegas. My wifes MS machine > has no parallel input and my several FreeBSD boxes do but wont find the > hardware. I used to use Omega Zip under FreeBSD 4.11. Thought these had > been transferred years ago but they were only found recently. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/zip-drive/article.html Also at /boot/kernel/vpo.ko -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 00:16:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AD1106566C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302BE8FC14 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so6220356pbb.13 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:16:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=D35wVy5XKYvQuBLjDmV0w5EjmBAxXRYfSfUjf8ZH5eQ=; b=LfV7fQJ4xnWbFY7bN+aeoYPXuljJ2m6xUkqFryd/nFiFY7xGfdbTdztfmtTzb/x5D1 FeeVFLuNPu7+YKNz8tYcHY66Sl3b9MvAyn1G/nEHj+BtC5r6xqBfNV/jzhAplFUr57t6 GpOXKcBT3kP+sWEFTppheyZmFZLvSvNKt2SOWTd/zpZ+G8Qwt7re7We5akHuzaWOH99m R0khYo5nH2cG6pfKXFyaKVo58vRKYrNDAHM6gjo3yvKMlC+cnoaGRk8TWiMJY7f8X3yj LJyxIlASE6vkOkWshHL4GSe825tmSZwLkrjSG6evprQYr/78pgkP53zFKD7xozRAs+tx VL1g== Received: by 10.68.197.198 with SMTP id iw6mr34755845pbc.36.1340583387469; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wf7sm6666467pbc.34.2012.06.24.17.16.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE7AF07.6020304@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:21:27 -0700 From: Edward M User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <20120624001622.17052.qmail@joyce.lan> <4FE6602C.2050800@gmail.com> <4FE79800.8000200@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:16:33 -0000 On 06/24/2012 04:23 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Edward M > wrote: > > Dont email me privately. > > > Don't be an ass. Standard list conventions allows for private email. > If this is simply an individual case of not liking the person who > emailed you, then it is your ethical responsibility to ask for privacy > in privacy. **Even in the case of sender being a pompous ass. If it > is your overall wish to not be emailed privately by members of this > list, then you should set that option on your list membership page > instead of attempting to force your responsibility onto others. > > -- > Adam Vande More That reply was not meant for you, so why do you care? get lost. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 00:58:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B061065670 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9292D8FC14 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2012 00:58:46 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.69] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2012 00:58:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2012 00:58:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1340585926; bh=vxKB3yfvj7IeKH+hfTH1yQkQHjYmpZD3wMc07Esp+PI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VM8T47rkOBY8xhI0k4wJhGMX5CkZjlFM5yAEFInAiD0Y/sjJkdfFYkFHRkiXqbaWbZ3NyYNfA5WSDm6zGmnKleFOpxPVK2r4xlIW7dKyXjABtDLesO2v70v+xpMVEXIo4Vaf9fwzepQYIicECbODs9JfsaCp/LhK1c8xm4Y1lhk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 532083.21453.bm@smtp106.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 28nSxQgVM1lCpqCq1kREhaaWf6rBVJGggTelhiByQ0Tg8D1 ht_A_ZpmOnzdPYObOF4aD_P48a_lyNVqodiEuRHeeQfnTwcFDXAdRtVurSSl 86hKeTXdAONM.QzkqMAew1qlD6FDqWYyOOfjZKccttiA8QLIGHkxYGRgCZ3d ghu18wjuo3xJNel9E9BluIuKDeJXiN3KWT5lZq6vAcSRiDHdou.p1aJntzLH y3D202StDyf9ufXSLBeBTKXLogrLh.8sedCl0QHND8LC4KlJXgoLiwey8tDm DlMQX0PeafTf1FKNuJSt.jyMaH1vlb6Rz1Gv8pKDfApp9HOAiJgLmK8ZXfbn CiUopdNycv2sZ229.2LNCASRzsXVPPkLxFKJ8XCW4syZdoOHpVjSj1kYh88_ OubXwTuGocGXoFFWZG.uOfeXKvxTV5aUKyrA6ZzHPj5sz.zS6IoPvKajz.Qq Wjqyei7PC X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- Received: from europa (mike.jeays@99.224.68.20 with login) by smtp106.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jun 2012 17:58:46 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:58:45 -0400 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> In-Reply-To: References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:58:53 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:13:00 -0500 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Al Plant wrote: > > > > I need to get an old parallel Omega Zip drive to work on a freeBSD 8.* to > > transfer some archives to new media. > > > > I have a problem with getting the OS to read the Omega Zip drive so it can > > be seen in dmesg to manually set the id correctly in /etc/fstab Flash > > drives and floppies show up but not Parallel Omegas. My wifes MS machine > > has no parallel input and my several FreeBSD boxes do but wont find the > > hardware. I used to use Omega Zip under FreeBSD 4.11. Thought these had > > been transferred years ago but they were only found recently. > > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/zip-drive/article.html > > Also at /boot/kernel/vpo.ko > > > -- > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! Both mine suffered from the click of death some years ago, round about when 4.11 was current. I would get any data off them and onto a CD/DVD as soon as possible. For me, they would make nice museum exhibits, but that's it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 01:50:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEBB1065670 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0838FC18 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1E717062; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:50:18 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4FE7C3D9.3040005@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:50:17 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:50:19 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Al Plant > wrote: > > I need to get an old parallel Omega Zip drive to work on a freeBSD > 8.* to transfer some archives to new media. > > I have a problem with getting the OS to read the Omega Zip drive so > it can be seen in dmesg to manually set the id correctly in > /etc/fstab Flash drives and floppies show up but not Parallel > Omegas. My wifes MS machine has no parallel input and my several > FreeBSD boxes do but wont find the hardware. I used to use Omega Zip > under FreeBSD 4.11. Thought these had been transferred years ago but > they were only found recently. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/zip-drive/article.html > > Also at /boot/kernel/vpo.ko > > > -- > Adam Vande More ########### Thanks Adam, I read the article and made a clean physical install and I now see the vpo driver and the Omega Zip device in the dmesg as da0. I have it in the /etc/fstab file as da0s4 (which should work) I still can't access the drive or the contents but at least it shows up now. Something to work with. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 02:21:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1562B106566C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF5D8FC0A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:21:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=ERWSdQ/q+fISm0Y8EBiC0zDCE5JtJLbwvYCKgP/kBhI=; b=a62mPydvLkT7XvYX7GbQR1zoV9xFiQF+xJ0WBPLzAwBvR8RT9oBfwP7QkYX02qglv2Ntoo8PZE5pJJExRiXw+NkJhUHN5+lREXj2zxayTgvQceMojqKLj0qj1bOoTRzF; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SiyvW-000L67-6q for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:21:19 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1340590872-94480-94479/5/53; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:21:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> <4FE7C3D9.3040005@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:21:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FE7C3D9.3040005@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:21:20 -0000 Now would be an ideal time to dd the device to an image file and play with that until you get it working. If your hardware or media fails as-is you'll be rather disappointed :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 02:58:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A00F106567D for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24D58FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:58:29 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/aI/JbjowIUiyYi+xFwVfYdBahHX5Ltrf1gNbTMoTiI= c=1 sm=0 a=zPNYJ5g_VMMA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=onhi19IbAAAA:8 a=T8lsrDMCMaM03pwO6UEA:9 a=Ma507JNFj8MA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:60231] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 78/B7-22025-EC3D7EF4; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:58:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:58:22 -0400 Message-ID: <78.B7.22025.EC3D7EF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:58:30 -0000 from Mike Jeays : > I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! Both mine suffered from the click of death some years ago, round about when 4.11 was current. I would get any data off them and onto a CD/DVD as soon as possible. For me, they would make nice museum exhibits, but that's it. I never suffered the click of death as such, but my Zip drives (100 and 250, both SCSI) died in other ways. Zip 100 drive, and also SyQuest SyJet drive, got to where they would just eject the disk a few seconds after insertion. Zip 250 disk remained semi-functional after July 2001, the "semi" being that the Zip drive would not recognize a change of cartridge except by rebooting the computer, old directories would be kept. This happened with Linux, DOS and OS/2 Warp 4, so it was a hardware issue. I installed FreeDOS to a Zip 250 disk on an old computer (1995): took a bit over five hours because Zip disks are slow: glorified floppies. SCSI was Trantor T130B, apparently supported by NetBSD but not FreeBSD >= 3.0. My last chance to try to install NetBSD 4.0.1 on a Zip 250 was stopped when that old computer wouldn't power up, and with other things going/gone bad, that computer was clearly not worth the time, effort and cost of repair. So it went to the cyber waste recycling center, including the Zip drives and disks, and the SyJet drive and disks. I haven't used USB sticks as long as floppies or Iomega Zip, but USB sticks and hard drives look much better so far than Iomega Zip or floppies. If I ever tried to install FreeBSD 8.x by copying the distribution files to floppies, no way would I be able to get enough good floppy copies with no better than 20% probability of success on each diskette image. I believe Iomega discontinued the parallel-port Zip drive, subsequently the SCSI Zip drive, and the USB and ATAPI Zip drives were the last to be discontinued. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 04:23:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD6C1065672 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7F78FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126D61703E; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:23:10 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4FE7E7AE.3040101@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:23:10 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: <78.B7.22025.EC3D7EF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <78.B7.22025.EC3D7EF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:23:13 -0000 Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Mike Jeays : > >> I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! Both mine suffered from the click of death some years ago, round about when 4.11 was current. I would get any data off them and onto a CD/DVD as soon as possible. For me, they would make nice museum exhibits, but that's it. > > I never suffered the click of death as such, but my Zip drives (100 and 250, both SCSI) died in other ways. > > Zip 100 drive, and also SyQuest SyJet drive, got to where they would just eject the disk a few seconds after insertion. > > Zip 250 disk remained semi-functional after July 2001, the "semi" being that the Zip drive would not recognize a change of cartridge except by rebooting the computer, old directories would be kept. This happened with Linux, DOS and OS/2 Warp 4, so it was a hardware issue. > > I installed FreeDOS to a Zip 250 disk on an old computer (1995): took a bit over five hours because Zip disks are slow: glorified floppies. > > SCSI was Trantor T130B, apparently supported by NetBSD but not FreeBSD >= 3.0. > > My last chance to try to install NetBSD 4.0.1 on a Zip 250 was stopped when that old computer wouldn't power up, and with other things going/gone bad, that computer was clearly not worth the time, effort and cost of repair. So it went to the cyber waste recycling center, including the Zip drives and disks, and the SyJet drive and disks. > > I haven't used USB sticks as long as floppies or Iomega Zip, but USB sticks and hard drives look much better so far than Iomega Zip or floppies. > > If I ever tried to install FreeBSD 8.x by copying the distribution files to floppies, no way would I be able to get enough good floppy copies with no better than 20% probability of success on each diskette image. > > I believe Iomega discontinued the parallel-port Zip drive, subsequently the SCSI Zip drive, and the USB and ATAPI Zip drives were the last to be discontinued. > > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ######### Thanks.... Of the 4 I had to play with one literally fell apart one scsi card is throwing errors. The one I finally got working is an old IDE on a FreeBSD 10 box that I experiment with. This should work fine to archive the Omega disks we found. Again thanks for heading me on the right path. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 05:16:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C531065670 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A574D8FC0A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:16:47 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=86GbDLi7NS7TegNzg0A2mmhQWIv0QOIIryOgdPqEZ2g= c=1 sm=0 a=zPNYJ5g_VMMA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=O7UxgQScAAAA:8 a=Dcl4BXri64csokFbETYA:9 a=Os7YOVzf3-8A:10 a=fwB95NgSuesA:10 a=6oFxO6xfEfbMjei_:21 a=Vt0tJd01TYtVdqG6:21 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:59961] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id E8/AF-12873-834F7EF4; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:16:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:16:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Al Plant Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:16:48 -0000 from Al Plant : > Thanks.... > Of the 4 I had to play with one literally fell apart one scsi card is > throwing errors. The one I finally got working is an old IDE on a > FreeBSD 10 box that I experiment with. This should work fine to archive > the Omega disks we found. > Again thanks for heading me on the right path. > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 What fell apart? Was it the Iomega Zip drive, the disk, or the scsi card? I assume Omega is a typo or memory lapse for what should be Iomega? IDE has given way on modern motherboards in favor of SATA, but current OSes would still have IDE/ATAPI support. You might still be advised to backup or transfer the data on Zip disks to CDs, DVDs or USB sticks or hard drives. Remember, Zip disks are just glorified floppies. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 05:51:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70D91065687 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out8.libero.it (cp-out8.libero.it [212.52.84.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425DC8FC0A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:51:38 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0206.4FE7FC62.0152,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.41.252.156) by cp-out8.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4FB2CA0D06C814CB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:51:30 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5P5pNCb073560 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:51:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4FE7FC5B.3070808@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:51:23 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120622 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> In-Reply-To: <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:51:38 -0000 On 06/25/12 02:58, Mike Jeays wrote: > I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! I have a SCSI one and I'm using it to backup some data (can't even remember how old that is, 10 years probably, but never had any glitches). I also have a couple of customers still using two or three such drives (although they are probably fading them out). bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 05:56:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EBF106567C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out8.libero.it (cp-out8.libero.it [212.52.84.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014CF8FC15 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:56:50 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0203.4FE7FDA1.005F,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.41.252.156) by cp-out8.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4FB2CA0D06C83036 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:56:49 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5P5uOj3074547 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:56:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4FE7FD88.6090406@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:56:24 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120622 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <78.B7.22025.EC3D7EF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <78.B7.22025.EC3D7EF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: [OT] Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:56:50 -0000 On 06/25/12 04:58, Thomas Mueller wrote: > Zip 100 drive, and also SyQuest SyJet drive, got to where they would > just eject the disk a few seconds after insertion. I hope I'm remembering this correctly (this happened probably ten years ago or so): I had an internal Zip drive which showed this behaviour as soon as I mounted it, but it was very simple to fix. My Zip drive had some sort of glue tape all around it at the front; this tape was bended and locked some very small lever which ejected the disk: unbending the tape was enough to get the drive working properly again. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 06:57:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAAE1065680 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107AC8FC14 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5P6vgUw069464; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:57:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:57:42 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120625152340.X46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120621083945.E87771065694@hub.freebsd.org> <20120622153224.I46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:57:40 -0000 On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:47:48 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: > > > I thought I saw something somewhere (maybe just wishful thinking) about > > FreeBSD on the Arduino, which normally runs a sort of embedded Linux, > > that could be very interesting; the hardware is cheap (kits at Jaycar > > stores in Australia anyway), very modular design, and there are heaps of > > fascinating projects. I want the quadricopter to follow me around the > > room at parties - at my age I need something really impressive :) > > Well, there is devel/arduino. It's not emdedded Linux, but an IDE for > writing and downloading code. The Arduino is a small embedded controller > based on the Atmel AVR microcontrollers. They are quite powerful, easy to > program, and accessible for experimenters. You can skip the Arduino > environment if you like, using the same lower-level tools like avr-gcc > directly. And the Arduino board can be used as a programmer, downloading > code to plain AVR chips and avoiding the need for more Arduino boards. Talk > about the Arduino on FreeBSD is generally on the freebsd-embedded mailing > list. Thanks Warren. I got the wrong idea that Arduino ran an embedded Linux from a friend, a Linux-using Electrical Engineer, but not a programmer. I'd also (too) briefly glanced at www.arduino.cc and noted Windows, Mac and Linux references, and Linux binaries, but had no idea you had ported the GUI. Could you perhaps try pushing the FreeBSD port upstream to Arduino, so people can find out that it exists from there? I hope to explore further once I get 9.x running; this 8.2-R system is chokka, not enough remaining space for a JDK, nor even a JRE :) > The Microchip PIC microcontrollers compete with the AVR. There are some > FreeBSD ports for programming those, but there are many varying chips and the > hardware needed to program some of them differs. I don't know if there is > anything directly comparable to the Arduino IDE. ARM processors have become > so cheap that they are starting to compete in this arena also. I looked at PICs ages ago, but just wasn't enticed by their instruction set; as an old S/3[67]0 bod I've always fallen for the more orthogonal processors like the Signetics 2650 (hands up who's heard of that!), 680[59]/68K and more lately AVRs, Harvard architecture despite little- endianness. Not sure there's room left in my head for MIPS or ARM .. > > On the FreeBSD side there's advanced work, I gather, on ARM and Atmel > > MEGA 32-bit and MIPS platforms at least. Personally I consider these > > 'big iron' and far prefer writing in macro assembler for little Atmel > > Tiny25s and such, but that's strictly "Look Ma, no OS!" programming. > > Another option: the freebsd-wireless list has had some very interesting > traffic about the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND, a $50 MIPS-based wireless router with > Atheros 802.11n chipset, USB, and gigabit Ethernet which can run FreeBSD > directly. Not sure how usable it is at present. Interesting. I'm subs'd to wireless@ and embedded@ (previously small@) but obviously haven't been paying enough attention :) Thanks again. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 07:54:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACFC1065676 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (gushi-4-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:8d8::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DD18FC0C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5P7rrtE061144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:53:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1340610878; bh=9zsq8NeRJHEV+Mo5FZci96fJ5Y+A3X7T2vnDy3nO3bU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; z=Date:=20Mon,=2025=20Jun=202012=2000:53:50=20-0700=20(PDT)|From:=2 0"Dan=20Mahoney,=20System=20Admin"=20|To:=20 questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20portupgrade=20--=20is=20there=20a =20way=20to=20only=20build=20and=20update=20ports=20that=0D=0A=20a ctually=20NEED=20it?; b=jDUCOptoMdpnOVzxwSNCnaxeuXqxiUKMa52nbpp76WEqBYAg7I4ixG0gM4QfJ5y8k hVEsPx0XuOw16pxRMo/DQ== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org q5P7rrtE061144 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:user-agent: x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=hP3I4y+kf1PRtlPXkbyynZHdREcY7sQ2Q+nweIsupPU/I1vokeL82HbvpDuK1Iv93 6Yayow8LQlGDLHjgyUBFA== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5P7rrLl061143; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Subject: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:54:40 -0000 Hey there, I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix the dependent port. Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to rebuild postgres real soon. You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it." Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not exist? -Dan -- "You recreate the stars in the sky with cows?" -Furrball, March 7 2005, on Katamari Damacy --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 08:08:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97711065672 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4791B8FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so1381684eab.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:08:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=7dCxXj7pliWCDKvsatwjdERsTe3VWsUH908tD3590Sw=; b=SuoX1T/F3246nRk85+D2HY+cdBdYqoFwVVHns3s1D8hhQ2n01a+1842edXrYrZDG14 bTQGLBHwynKnPCa/LejsBPd34PYIEUQGS/PtSnNGXByymmxEHRv/lc9nhLOPxulo/R2N LcDujkJzn494YEgMNNunODfA/h7iYSkj3ZTh5ElxbW0fdSDwcF/IObmLpxhsjeoE+tPx DlcAWSenwRT7ZErmXjM4fjcYdG8u0T8Mkqpblnbi+Lz9kBRzTigeDIzPebcVhaPYtysl ZAS9Td6HkJPuEHdzDFWUlgQQZbtdV2TfWsOlXRixyuUdaHRfCRrPikqIvYLZh9hy+gFL Ci/Q== Received: by 10.14.99.200 with SMTP id x48mr2234863eef.194.1340611704844; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm136126239eem.4.2012.06.25.01.08.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE81C78.5040504@my.gd> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:08:24 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQln4O8eBjHbeCcXLKXMc6Ia2J0Tg/+T9dRuLEu2/p3oBj4O1YT3jqSOGeckzuBTE3xboKVP Subject: Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:08:27 -0000 On 6/25/12 9:53 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Hey there, > > I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 > to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. > > Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as > the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix > the dependent port. > > Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, > but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. > > Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, > rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding > apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to > rebuild postgres real soon. > > You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't > upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the > dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it." > > Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not > exist? > > -Dan > We've been happily using portmanager for ages, it does just that :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 08:11:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F2D106566B for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B34C8FC1E for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q5P8BUFu041997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q5P8BUpE041996; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18936; Mon, 25 Jun 12 01:01:38 PDT Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:00:03 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: eam1edward@gmail.com Message-Id: <4fe87cf3.F2Mc5/p9W79RTX2m%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20120624001622.17052.qmail@joyce.lan> <4FE6602C.2050800@gmail.com> <4FE79800.8000200@gmail.com> <4FE7AF07.6020304@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FE7AF07.6020304@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is ZFS production ready? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:11:31 -0000 Edward M wrote: > That reply was not meant for you, so why do you care? If it wasn't meant for everyone on the list, why was it sent to the list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 08:15:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555E5106567B for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D092B8FC0C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5P8FbvO007144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:15:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5P8FbvO007144 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q5P8FbvO007144; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FE81E1F.3050809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:15:27 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD1F2B221250C707AD5A43E86" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:15:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD1F2B221250C707AD5A43E86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/06/2012 08:53, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.= 8 > to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. >=20 > Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such a= s > the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix= > the dependent port. >=20 > Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages,= > but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. >=20 > Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, > rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding > apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to > rebuild postgres real soon. >=20 > You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't > upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the > dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it." >=20 > Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not > exist? It has been many years since I used portupgrade with any regularity, and many of those neurones have been recycled. However, I do recall that: portupgrade -a should update all out-of-date ports on your system. portupgrade -r pkgname should update pkgname (if out of date) and all packages that depend on pkgname. portupgrade -R pkgname should update everything that pkgname depends on plus pkgname (if out of date). 'portupgrade -R' sounds like what you want. I believe that the meaning of the -r and -R flags in portupgrade is reversed from pkg_info(1) which is annoyingly inconsistent. Nowadays I usually use portmaster, where: portmaster pkgname works equivalently to 'portupgrade -R pkgname' except that portmaster /always/ reinstalls pkgname even if it is up to date. ie. the standard default action of portmaster is to do exactly what you want. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:41:21 -0000 On 06/25/12 10:40, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 06/25/12 09:53, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> Hey there, >> >> I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 >> to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. >> >> Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as >> the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix >> the dependent port. >> >> Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, >> but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. > > "-r" will upgrade all dependent ports *if* a newer version is available. > "-rf" will upgrade all dependent ports unconditionally. > > > > > >> You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't >> upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the >> dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it." > > I'm not sure what you mean. > I guess you waned "portupgrade -R rt", which will upgrade all ports rt ^^^^^ wanted > is depending on. > > > > > > HTH. > > bye > av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 08:43:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D431065675 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3E58FC1A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:43:48 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0207.4FE82410.023D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.41.252.156) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4FD1B52302B5E1FE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:40:48 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5P8eXg9040885 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:40:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4FE82401.7080307@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:40:33 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120622 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:43:49 -0000 On 06/25/12 09:53, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Hey there, > > I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from rt-3.8.8 > to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. > > Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such as > the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to go fix > the dependent port. > > Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent packages, > but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. "-r" will upgrade all dependent ports *if* a newer version is available. "-rf" will upgrade all dependent ports unconditionally. > You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't > upgrade every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the > dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it." I'm not sure what you mean. I guess you waned "portupgrade -R rt", which will upgrade all ports rt is depending on. HTH. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 08:44:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB42A106564A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@produktion203.se) Received: from mail.p203.se (mail.p203.se [IPv6:2a00:1a28:1200:11::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686F08FC27 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.p203.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E718F0AD0F for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:44:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.p203.se ([80.67.12.178]) by localhost (mail.p203.se [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66802-06 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:44:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.49] (203webgroup.se [46.246.120.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: daniel@produktion203.se) by mail.p203.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 790AFF0ACC6 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:44:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FE824EF.8020305@produktion203.se> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:44:31 +0200 From: Daniel Ylitalo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Question about missing posix shared mutex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:44:34 -0000 Hi guys! According to the sphinxsearch dev-team freebsd does not support posix pthread shared mutex but later on i found this post that gave some pointers that it might been implemented into freebsd 9: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/What-is-the-status-of-thread-process-shared-synchronization-td4224458.html However 9.0-RELEASE doesnt have it so i tried out 9-STABLE but it isnt in there either. There is also a pretty long bugthread on sphinxsearch's bugtracker about it: http://sphinxsearch.com/bugs/view.php?id=1041 Basically my question is if there is work being done on this and if we will see it in 9.1? Or should i abandon freebsd for our sphinxhosts? :( Best regards Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 09:15:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303001065678 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF318FC16 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.74] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj5OV-0006YJ-J9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:15:39 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5P9Fb2s001350 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:15:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5P9FaM2001349 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:15:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:15:36 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.74 Subject: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:15:47 -0000 Hello, I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. Any idea? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 09:25:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F311065676 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0308FC15 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9AC1D3F65C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:21:18 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20120625042118.1cc42ab2@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:25:11 -0000 Howdy! Any one have any idea what is going on below? [root@shiela]/root# uname -a FreeBSD shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb 25 04:55:35 CST 2012 kitsune@shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/sheila amd64 [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Exit 1 [root@shiela]/root# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 09:25:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC0B106568D for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E656E8FC17 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5P9PLY5078059; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:25:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5P9PLOR078056; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:25:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:25:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mike Jeays In-Reply-To: <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> Message-ID: References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:25:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:25:16 -0000 >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! I have 250MB zipdrive and 100MB disks. all works properly over USB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 09:30:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDF7106567A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A730E8FC16 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 817673F658 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:32:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:33:02 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625043302.198cf5c3@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Understanding XDM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:30:49 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:19:54 +0200 Christian Graulund wrote: > The others have answered your questions concerning DM v. WM, but if you are finding XDM annoying to configure, you may possible wish to take a look at slim, x11/slim. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 09:58:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71A21065672 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03C58FC17 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj647-0007hL-1Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:58:39 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.23]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:58:38 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:58:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:56:58 -0400 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <4FE824EF.8020305@produktion203.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Question about missing posix shared mutex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:58:42 -0000 Daniel Ylitalo wrote: > Hi guys! > > According to the sphinxsearch dev-team freebsd does not support posix > pthread shared mutex but later on i found this post that gave some > pointers that it might been implemented into freebsd 9: > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/What-is-the-status-of-thread-process- shared-synchronization-td4224458.html > > However 9.0-RELEASE doesnt have it so i tried out 9-STABLE but it isnt > in there either. > > There is also a pretty long bugthread on sphinxsearch's bugtracker about > it: http://sphinxsearch.com/bugs/view.php?id=1041 > > Basically my question is if there is work being done on this and if we > will see it in 9.1? Or should i abandon freebsd for our sphinxhosts? :( > Sorry not to answer your question, but have you tried installing any of the following from the ports system to see if they work? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=sphinx&stype=all I do not use this and have no experience with it, but if these ports are indeed broken it might be nice for the port maintainer to know about. If they work, then why fuss over theoretics? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 10:10:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18011065675 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: from emailserver2.asdf456.com (emailserver2.asdf456.com [72.18.207.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 629F78FC14 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2436 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jun 2012 10:10:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO noos.larseighner.com) (71.20.75.102) by emailserver2.asdf456.com with SMTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 03:10:33 -0700 Received: by noos.larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@noos.larseighner.com; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:10:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:10:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighner.com To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:10:52 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a > Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I > could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, > but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from > our ports. > > Any idea? Thanks in advance I'll take that "Any" at face value. Did you check your printer's manual? Many printers these days can print photos stand-alone. The least hassle option might to be to load your photos on a card or memory stick, and use your printer's stand-alone functions, since I gather from your question that you are not embedding the photos in some larger document. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 10:18:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9220C1065689 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2375F8FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.74] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj6Nc-0000qq-Dr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:18:48 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PAIkxx001506 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:18:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5PAIjmW001505 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:18:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:18:45 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625101844.GA1440@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.74 Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:18:50 -0000 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 05:10:32AM -0500, Lars Eighner escribió: > > I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a > > Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I > > could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, > > but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from > > our ports. > > > > Any idea? Thanks in advance > > I'll take that "Any" at face value. Did you check your printer's manual? > > Many printers these days can print photos stand-alone. The least hassle > option might to be to load your photos on a card or memory stick, and use > your printer's stand-alone functions, since I gather from your question that > you are not embedding the photos in some larger document. I was thinking in some UNIX way to do so, like: 1. converting the 10 jpeg to 10 .eps files 2. running psmerge to bring the 10 EPS files into one PS file 3. running psnup to get the 10 pages re-arranged, 2 on one page; but psmerge does not produce something usefull; I don't know if my printer has such options or if I can get access to such stand-alone functions; it is our central printer and managed by IT; matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 10:34:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512511065673 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193428FC16 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9A1E33F656; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:36:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:37:13 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625053713.5bd88e7d@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:34:56 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:15:36 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a > Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know > I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML > file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool > from our ports. > > Any idea? Thanks in advance I would just load them up in print them in Libreoffice and print them once I was happy with how the page layout looked. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 10:53:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890B61065709 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9C38FC14 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.116] (helo=webmailfront01.ispgateway.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj6ug-0004Js-Tx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:52:58 +0200 Received: from willy.medizin.uni-ulm.de (willy.medizin.uni-ulm.de [134.60.192.14]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:52:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:52:58 +0200 Message-ID: <20120625125258.Horde.6O8kZruWis5P6EMK25pGerA@webmail.df.eu> From: Markus Hoenicka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625101844.GA1440@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20120625101844.GA1440@tiny.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H4 (5.0.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:53:41 -0000 Matthias Apitz was heard to say: > > I was thinking in some UNIX way to do so, like: > > 1. converting the 10 jpeg to 10 .eps files > 2. running psmerge to bring the 10 EPS files into one PS file > 3. running psnup to get the 10 pages re-arranged, 2 on one page; > If you're looking at 10 images, just fire up OpenOffice and make a presentation or a drawing with 2 images per page. Figure out the Unix way if you're looking at 10 images every day :-) just my 2 cc Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 11:17:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE8610656A9 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936A98FC16 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj7IP-0007AA-8m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:17:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:17:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1340623049263-5721678.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:17:29 -0000 In the next episode: Modern home video with Betamax and LaserDisc ;) -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Omega-Zip-Drives-on-FreeBSD-8-tp5721532p5721678.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 05:55:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A941065675 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ukornev@city-link.info) Received: from forward18.mail.yandex.net (forward18.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F0A8FC15 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp18.mail.yandex.net (smtp18.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.18]) by forward18.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id ECF601780B92 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:55:14 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp18.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp18.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D2A4A18A019A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:55:14 +0400 (MSK) Received: from ip-79-120-85-4.bb.netbynet.ru (ip-79-120-85-4.bb.netbynet.ru [79.120.85.4]) by smtp18.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id tEVCIotD-tEVa7JUc; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:55:14 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:55:12 +0400 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7w7eXiIN7w6Okg3vD85eLo9w==?= Organization: =?windows-1251?B?zs7OICLKyNHPIg==?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1442117131.20120625095512@city-link.info> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:19:30 +0000 Cc: Subject: question crash #144315 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 05:55:18 -0000 Hello! We have a problem provided in - kern/144315: [ipfw] [panic] freebsd 8-s= table reboot after add ipfw rules with netgraph ng_car Our assembly of freebsd: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Sep 27 01:19:13 MSD 2010 kain@shaper:/usr= /obj/usr/src/sys/SHAPER i386 Reset occurs at different times, in not dependences on quantity of rules. Thus when restarting the same rules, but thus system are applied remains in= working condition. With adding of the new subscriber in billing the script is executed example: $n_inet_login=3D100654 /sbin/ipfw table 10 add $2 $in /sbin/ipfw table 20 add $2 $out /usr/sbin/ngctl mkpeer ipfw: car $in upper /usr/sbin/ngctl name ipfw:$in $n_inet_login /usr/sbin/ngctl connect $n_inet_login: ipfw: lower $out /usr/sbin/ngctl msg $n_inet_login: setconf { upstream=3D{ cbs=3D$o_cbs ebs= =3D$o_cbs cir=3D$n_cir greenAction=3D1 yellowAction=3D1 redAction=3D2 mode= =3D3 } downstream=3D{ cbs=3D$o_cbs ebs=3D$o_cbs cir=3D$n_cir greenAction=3D= 1 yellowAction=3D1 redAction=3D2 mode=3D3 } } To any moment simply passes system restarting. There are questions: 1) Whether there is this problem in x64? 2) Whether Esti this problem in the freebsd-9 version (i386, x64)? 3) Or can eat any decision still? --=20 =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, =CA=EE=F0=ED=E5=E2 =DE=F0=E8=E9 =DE=F0=FC=E5=E2=E8=F7 = mailto:ukornev@city-link.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 11:26:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A25C1065688 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35AE8FC0A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so1466493eab.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:26:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pWj5TlQweVuiT24F7p1sVigK0ntxpcEjja1+Bt+1/NI=; b=yDn4UmbAx7Wi1Qjo6+C93OeD49yL2cyGXR/ZE1M2nXY7myS4yIJ57omPxnqluoQJ2a 1PTDxgshNUBeNlDQyPxGinknAhbEIV3JbJrfwK5f1tTQsUtAWys31obBF4D7ZTkv45kO B7RLCc8yfb455a+Z6+6a9ZuofauJOTQnyVg0300eVOzVWZjNu2X4bM/1v68TN22N4KFQ 35RScFVLwrPc5xJ8hFsxdKHz98u0ND9Vp5pScOSjckLygTEIKP4x6U5V220T2Hpkk3bZ GBglKCgzWVXpjxBfqfG53g4cOtrLikxEs+6I/4BJHUH/jiMee2fX2GmUPKEvUOxMnLMb Px/g== Received: by 10.14.100.193 with SMTP id z41mr2234694eef.112.1340623576923; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u16sm137783968eeb.16.2012.06.25.04.26.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:26:12 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625122612.6f704f9b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120625042118.1cc42ab2@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> References: <20120625042118.1cc42ab2@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:26:18 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:21:18 -0500 Zane C. B-H. wrote: > Howdy! > > Any one have any idea what is going on below? > > [root@shiela]/root# uname -a > FreeBSD shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD > 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb 25 04:55:35 CST 2012 > kitsune@shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/sheila amd64 > [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade Looking up > update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching public key > from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from > update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from > update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Exit 1 > [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have to go from security branch to security branch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 11:28:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31101065670 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1A18FC1F for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so5494519dad.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:28:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=sQhE5IgD4DPDYB8ps622WRQlUHnNsxHIrpDP53wItV8=; b=d7LNWEnvr8UwMZnGG7qWfnvRJ1sWF6xS1C+Svto8/B7yAhLTGUmfwQ1pfFtI891QZW Q11qO4UvrAlE89/Pu5viXmAL4FJXVOsEz10E1F990cRf11E/AjAUytPSQvVhosDVaylx f9KKYraooN1Y5ZDWR++7gOZTqjGVVYHfSCM32GpaGWS7beudXMC4iPR05GrcIG3ThYaD Iw8m0QVJd+pkTY4JcWnGiigAqkoUxVtboIxzhPr1HI8WDMFV54nRj9hA8oy6C93xAOY5 WDHDR3aXlYT4qyJMOGS5ADuF3ypO41prmHVZ3QzGMRS3xdPVz2k1GT9AT4AMdmD1a06i UkYQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.195.198 with SMTP id ig6mr40005435pbc.92.1340623737258; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.74.14 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:28:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1340623049263-5721678.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> <1340623049263-5721678.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:28:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: Jakub Lach Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:28:58 -0000 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Jakub Lach wrote: > In the next episode: > > Modern home video with Betamax and LaserDisc ;) > > -- > View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Omega-Zip-Drives-on-FreeBSD-8-tp5721532p5721678.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" What's wrong with VHS and Cassette Tape? VHS has superior resolution to HD because it's analog!! :-P :-P :-P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 11:51:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEA6106566B for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9C78FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AADEA3F658 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:53:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:53:45 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625065345.56dcf2fd@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120625122612.6f704f9b@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20120625042118.1cc42ab2@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <20120625122612.6f704f9b@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:51:28 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:26:12 +0100 RW wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:21:18 -0500 > Zane C. B-H. wrote: > > > Howdy! > > > > Any one have any idea what is going on below? > > > > [root@shiela]/root# uname -a > > FreeBSD shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD > > 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb 25 04:55:35 CST 2012 > > kitsune@shiela.vulpes.vvelox.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/sheila > > amd64 [root@shiela]/root# freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade > > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > > Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching > > public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public > > key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, > > giving up. Exit 1 [root@shiela]/root# > > freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have to go > from security branch to security branch. I know it can't be used to update to stable, but I've not encountered any thing in the documentation saying it can't be used to update from stable it to a release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 12:40:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364891065687 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDED28FC16 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj8aN-0000Ow-SG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:40:08 +0200 Received: from np-19-75.prenet.pl ([np-19-75.prenet.pl]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:40:07 +0200 Received: from jb.1234abcd by np-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:40:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 81 Message-ID: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <26.30.12873.06EE2EF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120621230302.GB575@hemlock.hydra> <1340574699711-5721495.post@n5.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1) Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:40:12 -0000 Jakub Lach mailplus.pl> writes: > > > I am more concerned about an aspect of the language the clang tools are > > written in, namely the use of object-oriented paradigm of c++ (it is a > > phony > > paradigm, one that does not exist in nature or reality, which explains > > the failure rate of C++ OO projects historically and current usage > > decline). > > I sense that the relative slowness of generated code has to do with it. > > Perhaps > > some other attributes of that code's quality too, even if not now, then in > > the > > future. > > Yes, this is one thing really puzzled me. Maybe it's related to Apple's > affinity > to Objective-C? Well, let me add some more and important facts to this discussion. If it caused so much emotions and name calling, then at least everybody should know what this is all about. Clang is a compiler front-end for C, C++, Objective-C and Objective-C++ programming languages and it uses LLVM as its back-end. Both, clang and LLVM, are written in C++. LLVM provides middle layers of compilation process and is e.g. responsible for optimization of intermediate code, which next will be converted and linked into machine-dependent assembly code. Based on this source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C the Objective-C was influenced by Smalltalk's object-oriented programming model, while C++ by Simula's. This has implications for characteristics and performance of Objective-C, for example: - there are quite few important language elements in C++ that are not in Objective-C, like namespaces, multiple inheritance, operator overloading, etc - "... Objective-C applications tend to be larger than similar C or C++ applications because Objective-C dynamic typing does not allow methods to be stripped or inlined." - "... Because Objective-C uses dynamic runtime typing and because all method calls are function calls (or, in some cases, syscalls), many common performance optimizations cannot be applied to Objective-C methods (for example: inlining, constant propagation, interprocedural optimizations, and scalar replacement of aggregates). This limits the performance of Objective-C abstractions relative to similar abstractions in languages such as C++ where such optimizations are possible." - "... Objective-C is decidedly geared toward run-time decisions while C++ is geared toward compile-time decisions. The tension between dynamic and static programming involves many of the classic trade-offs in programming: dynamic features add flexibility, static features add speed and type checking." My Note: please keep in mind we are talking about language used for writing clang, a compiler tool. So, Objective-C has disadvantage with regard to size od generated code, performance, and optimization as compared to C++. But both share OO (object-oriented) paradigm, which many pros consider synthetic, or pulled out of thin air if you prefer, with negative effects on devs mental health, design, and resulting code quality. I hope I got all facts right -:) It seems to me that switching to clang was a correct strategic decision for reasons linked to GPLv3 license as described in my prior post and by other thread posters. But there seems to be some price paid related to "written in C++" facts described by me in both posts, which may make some people come to a conclusion that the decision was based more on a political factor (Apple) than on technical merits. Because I did not participate or followed FreeBSD's internal process, I can not express any opinion to what extend both factors were considered and discussed. OK. Judge for yourselves, and have fun. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 12:47:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B4C106567D for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEE38FC0C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.74] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj8hG-0006cV-7X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:47:14 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PClB2W001849 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:47:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5PClBA6001848 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:47:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:47:10 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625124710.GA1827@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625053713.5bd88e7d@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120625053713.5bd88e7d@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.74 Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:47:16 -0000 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 05:37:13AM -0500, Zane C. B-H. escribió: > > Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know > > I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML > > file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool > > from our ports. > > > > Any idea? Thanks in advance > > I would just load them up in print them in Libreoffice and print them > once I was happy with how the page layout looked. I did this with OpenOffice 3.x and you have - 10 times to Inser Picture - 10 times pic-up the correct picture from the file dialog - 10 times to move the picture to the correct place in the page - 10 times to scale the image so that two fit and adjust them a bit - 4 time Create new page it took me something like half hour to get it printed; this is not even an option if you do it only once :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 12:52:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE561065676 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66888FC0C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5PCqOF8078857; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:52:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5PCqOAX078854; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:52:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:52:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20120625124710.GA1827@tiny.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625053713.5bd88e7d@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <20120625124710.GA1827@tiny.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:52:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:52:24 -0000 > I did this with OpenOffice 3.x and you have > - 10 times to Inser Picture > - 10 times pic-up the correct picture from the file dialog > - 10 times to move the picture to the correct place in the page > - 10 times to scale the image so that two fit and adjust them a bit > - 4 time Create new page > > it took me something like half hour to get it printed; this is not even > an option if you do it only once :-( > simplest case: 1)convert them in batch to postscript. 2)place it with mpage, many on one page. there are probably other simple solutions. more complex - 1 and use TeX :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 12:56:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4410106566B for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2968FC20 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5PCuIKA078885; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:56:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5PCuH9g078882; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:56:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:56:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: jb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <26.30.12873.06EE2EF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120621230302.GB575@hemlock.hydra> <1340574699711-5721495.post@n5.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:56:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:56:13 -0000 > programming involves many of the classic trade-offs in programming: dynamic > features add flexibility, static features add speed and type checking." > My Note: please keep in mind we are talking about language used for writing > clang, a compiler tool. > > So, Objective-C has disadvantage with regard to size od generated code, > performance, and optimization as compared to C++. > > But both share OO (object-oriented) paradigm, which many pros consider > synthetic, or pulled out of thin air if you prefer, with negative effects on > devs mental health, design, and resulting code quality. > > I hope I got all facts right -:) most probably, but what does it mean if clang have multiple layers, frontend, LLVM backend, etc. etc. for normal user who just needs C compiler. It doesn't matter how it do this but what are the results. > It seems to me that switching to clang was a correct strategic decision for > reasons linked to GPLv3 license as described in my prior post and by other > thread posters. You didn't wrote anything new here. > But there seems to be some price paid related to "written in C++" facts > described by me in both posts, which may make some people come to a conclusion > that the decision was based more on a political factor (Apple) than on > technical merits. It doesn't really care how clang is written but how it works. And it was political decision because compiler itself, on GPLv3 licence, does not block anyhow distributing it's output - binaries. C++ libraries can be limiting, but... wasn't replaced. If it would be truly about removing GPLv3 code that hurts, replacing libstdc++ would be first thing to do. For now we have removed GPL code that doesn't hurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 13:02:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B260F1065680 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BE98FC1C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5PD2bGL092915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:02:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4FE8616D.2030002@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:02:37 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <26.30.12873.06EE2EF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120621230302.GB575@hemlock.hydra> <1340574699711-5721495.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:02:40 -0000 On 25/06/2012 13:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > C++ libraries can be limiting, but... wasn't replaced. > > If it would be truly about removing GPLv3 code that hurts, replacing > libstdc++ would be first thing to do. I assume you mean like the new libc++? http://wiki.freebsd.org/NewC%2B%2BStack > > For now we have removed GPL code that doesn't hurt > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 13:05:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B837106567C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024DC8FC0A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5PD5Y5g079080; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:05:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5PD5Yvq079077; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:05:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:05:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Vincent Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4FE8616D.2030002@unsane.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <4FCF9333.70201@speakeasy.org> <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <26.30.12873.06EE2EF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> <20120621230302.GB575@hemlock.hydra> <1340574699711-5721495.post@n5.nabble.com> <4FE8616D.2030002@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:05:35 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:05:29 -0000 >> >> If it would be truly about removing GPLv3 code that hurts, replacing >> libstdc++ would be first thing to do. > I assume you mean like the new libc++? > http://wiki.freebsd.org/NewC%2B%2BStack yes. this is actually GREAT MOVE! even if it's slower, object oriented languages are not about speed anyway. This should be done first, not compiler. Compiler - only after actually better would exist. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 13:12:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A61065677 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F398FC12 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so1515045eab.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:12:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=51uCgsYoLJRTeJn3oKMxbEQxNIIgBOm+aSbBTDefydE=; b=IrkC96Hqr4QsgYUHy0tUwDz7U81/ubvfV9xYAv5KhJJv38VjwW++sn2Rp4KtJVK3Uu yAbSvWdOCC128Ww9lqZ4uccEGvrWmgkbzGKfUxgzeuXaj2Knl1XFRZufd4dU6OK50pqC 5nGqcARrP0ojB1cpkFbFPyv0Bbg8wmRa2l0SC6A9zTybMwGuwfS1Cglr5J21kgqMNj6r jGTNsgETwB6159TlTM4mqAE2yhZ3l7KIxXnBD7LSuZ09vS8jKUrrr1/tDbDoLWn/MQey Kg1qtDeA1K9odr6DZb3P2V9u4dY/A0yTeFPP2tUpkg3jBwio4//53XWZqUWDb7GdhbdB Wb7g== Received: by 10.14.95.65 with SMTP id o41mr2248295eef.41.1340629959671; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x52sm138703548eea.11.2012.06.25.06.12.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:12:36 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625141236.3eb42e26@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20120625065345.56dcf2fd@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> References: <20120625042118.1cc42ab2@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <20120625122612.6f704f9b@gumby.homeunix.com> <20120625065345.56dcf2fd@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:12:41 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:53:45 -0500 Zane C. B-H. wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:26:12 +0100 > RW wrote: >=20 > > freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have to go > > from security branch to security branch. >=20 > I know it can't be used to update to stable, but I've not encountered > any thing in the documentation saying it can't be used to update from > stable it to a release. >=20 =46rom the man page: "... the FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 13:14:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06BA106566C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9610A8FC14 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.74] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sj97l-0001mE-IV; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:14:37 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PDEZgh001947; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:14:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5PDEYFC001946; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:14:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:14:33 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20120625131432.GA1872@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625053713.5bd88e7d@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <20120625124710.GA1827@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.74 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:14:40 -0000 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 02:52:24PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió: > simplest case: > > 1)convert them in batch to postscript. I did this already with: for i in *.jpg do ; convert $i $i.ps ; done this works fin; > > 2)place it with mpage, many on one page. and now a mpage -bA4 -4 *.ps > /tmp/all.ps gives a 10 page PS file, each page divided by fine lines into 4 sub pages; but on any of the 10 pages one of the slides is put into the upper left sub page area; what I'm missing? the man page of mpage says "... with the text reduced in size so that several pages appear on one sheet of paper..."; it seems it does work with images, or? matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 13:23:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEB0106568D for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3F58FC1B for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5PDNgAG079154; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:23:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5PDNghj079151; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:23:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:23:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20120625131432.GA1872@tiny.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625053713.5bd88e7d@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <20120625124710.GA1827@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625131432.GA1872@tiny.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2456600518-672430742-1340630622=:79150" X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:23:42 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:23:37 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2456600518-672430742-1340630622=:79150 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 02:52:24PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió: > >> simplest case: >> >> 1)convert them in batch to postscript. > > I did this already with: > > for i in *.jpg do ; convert $i $i.ps ; done > > this works fin; > >> >> 2)place it with mpage, many on one page. > > and now a > > mpage -bA4 -4 *.ps > /tmp/all.ps > > gives a 10 page PS file, each page divided by fine lines into 4 sub > pages; but on any of the 10 pages one of the slides is put into the > upper left sub page area; what I'm missing? -c --2456600518-672430742-1340630622=:79150-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 13:33:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE80A106566C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFB48FC18 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5808E3F65A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:35:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:35:32 -0500 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625083532.697bcf43@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <20120625141236.3eb42e26@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20120625042118.1cc42ab2@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <20120625122612.6f704f9b@gumby.homeunix.com> <20120625065345.56dcf2fd@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> <20120625141236.3eb42e26@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-update from recent 8-STABLE to 9.0-RELEASE issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:33:14 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:12:36 +0100 RW wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:53:45 -0500 > Zane C. B-H. wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:26:12 +0100 > > RW wrote: > > > > > > freebsd-update doesn't support development branches, you have > > > to go from security branch to security branch. > > > > I know it can't be used to update to stable, but I've not > > encountered any thing in the documentation saying it can't be > > used to update from stable it to a release. > > > > From the man page: > > "... the FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases > shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team" Right, that is exactly what I was referring to. 9.0-RELEASE is one of those as far as I know. It is ambiguous as to if that means being upgraded from or to and the error message given does not indicate what is being upgraded from is not supported, so I am a bit confused on if this is to be expected or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 13:37:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF54106568D; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aboyer@averesystems.com) Received: from mail.averesystems.com (50-73-27-109-cpennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.73.27.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A7A8FC16; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.averesystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E08348054D; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:37:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.averesystems.com Received: from mail.averesystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.averesystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zf-1vSwZKbWd; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riven.arriad.com (206.193.225.214.nauticom.net [206.193.225.214]) by mail.averesystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B56E74802FC; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Andrew Boyer In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:37:47 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Rick Miller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jack Vogel , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:37:55 -0000 You can probably turn hw.ixgbe.num_queues down to 2 or 4 and cut your = mbuf consumption dramatically without noticing any loss of performance. -A On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Rick Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jack Vogel wrote: >> Increase your system mbuf pool size, you do not want that failure to = happen. >=20 > Thanks, Jack. I saw a thread where you discussed this. You are > referring to kern.ipc.nmbclusters, correct? >=20 > Should I also adjust the following? >=20 > hw.ixgbe.rxd > hw.ixgbe.txd > hw.ixgbe.num_queues > hw.intr_storm_threshold -------------------------------------------------- Andrew Boyer aboyer@averesystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 14:49:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9842D1065674; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482E78FC19; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so8414353obb.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:49:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nB6QS85OOOQnD6mMJg+wpsOSZvnoLZOHp/LjqllHatc=; b=wo+3N2p7o4kofI0SpT2ylNzzLyq1qakFKZzBn1aiYJ7cXQpYI6TlhX17P+quSFh2ig 9OfhweXmieZtihv8fMtrfvaMZMIDURocY3te45O3b4oJylKTh4KT/XyCRtMxRrbFtPiR g8gbzn821AtBtMaxt1gUo6ehQQZ/3d5naZSBNFUHwSzy9MRbIcnKQAlos7cxgBUad7w2 ga6lsQZbRVbf4BGVDNMATpXMwGSyFFreBzeKL58HqnH/mGOg7DI0dS6EPZ9ZnXlF5Nki V0zmPufNxWp216s9uKO3//zXcLtUNiYCeYnqyz8d+d91aobmo21D6NhNZnpaAsyOBHvE T5MQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.45.72 with SMTP id k8mr12508056obm.51.1340635776771; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.10.34 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:49:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:49:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bpG2_x2e8TfyEUvImKMDiw-qL6Y Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Jack Vogel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , Andrew Boyer Subject: Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:49:37 -0000 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jack Vogel wrote: > Would probably be good to take care of the storm threshold if you haven't, > set it to 0 > and you disable the check, that's what we do internally. As for the queues > and number > of descriptors, that's kind of up to you, different work loads and > environments work best > with different setups. > > Hopefully, when you get rid of the rx ring setup failure you will get things > working. Thanks, Jack. I did get rid of the rx ring failure. Link status still shows no carrier. I think everything looks right from the host's perspective. -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 15:43:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C7D1065674 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2775A8FC2A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5PFhZfO098659; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:43:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5PFhZEl098656; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:43:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:43:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20120625152340.X46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20120621083945.E87771065694@hub.freebsd.org> <20120622153224.I46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120625152340.X46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:43:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:43:36 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:47:48 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > Well, there is devel/arduino. It's not emdedded Linux, but an IDE for > > writing and downloading code. The Arduino is a small embedded controller > > based on the Atmel AVR microcontrollers. They are quite powerful, easy to > > program, and accessible for experimenters. You can skip the Arduino > > environment if you like, using the same lower-level tools like avr-gcc > > directly. And the Arduino board can be used as a programmer, downloading > > code to plain AVR chips and avoiding the need for more Arduino boards. Talk > > about the Arduino on FreeBSD is generally on the freebsd-embedded mailing > > list. > > Thanks Warren. I got the wrong idea that Arduino ran an embedded Linux > from a friend, a Linux-using Electrical Engineer, but not a programmer. > I'd also (too) briefly glanced at www.arduino.cc and noted Windows, Mac > and Linux references, and Linux binaries, but had no idea you had ported > the GUI. Could you perhaps try pushing the FreeBSD port upstream to > Arduino, so people can find out that it exists from there? There was an updated entry mentioning the port in the Playground, which now seems to have reverted back to the old not-yet-working procedure for FreeBSD 6.1. And I see that 1.0.1 is out, so now the port needs to be updated. There doesn't appear to be a way for me to edit that. I can send mail to the site about mentioning the FreeBSD port on the downloads page. Or you can, if you like. Something I forgot to mention earlier is that it may now be possible to buy Arduinos or compatibles at Radio Shack stores in the US. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 15:47:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240FF1065686 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E008FC15 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 57835 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2012 15:47:41 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 25 Jun 2012 15:47:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=4fe8881d.xn--i8sz2z.k1206; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=z/KqKYt97nTB53hw6giNCXaPacTqkunPUnjh47Gf0TA=; b=iacI2j1qkDUmxNd1GZhzLZWNODg5fpO1kUj9x1YoxU3SH1U54ZTVfO1CAswNbV8wH/Le6yhaSbqC1mfefbYObw294LWF+mQ7oLKbnoXr7pir0pkcaNbKtaombIu5AJfmTUn9WQ9K2Vkmhoq5i1Y7AezfYGVcZ+YDmFsahukRvlU= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 25 Jun 2012 15:47:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20120625154719.97935.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: danm@prime.gushi.org Subject: Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:47:43 -0000 >You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't upgrade >every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I >need a newer version of a thing, then do it." The problem is that the versioning in the ports system doesn't distinguish between upgrades that present interface changes and upgrades that are just nits, new features, or minor bug fixes. Port makefiles can contain version dependency info, e.g., this port needs at least version N.M of package X, but few of them do. This has bitten me in the past with PHP and pcre. In fact, PHP5 won't work with old versions of pcre, but the PHP port maintainer refuses to put in version dependency info, because he thinks that every port should be up to date all the time. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 16:48:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4ED1065672 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD178FC12 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (mail.darkmindweb.com [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3WLbtJ1Wryz15r for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:48:24 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:48:24 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <20120625154719.97935.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20120625154719.97935.qmail@joyce.lan> Message-ID: <618a9c5055f8952c55e0004eac6b3aea@mail.magehandbook.com> X-Sender: DStaal@usa.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/RCMAIL_VERSION Subject: Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DStaal@usa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:48:31 -0000 On 2012-06-25 11:47, John Levine wrote: >>You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't >> upgrade >>every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency >> chain I >>need a newer version of a thing, then do it." > > The problem is that the versioning in the ports system doesn't > distinguish between upgrades that present interface changes and > upgrades that are just nits, new features, or minor bug fixes. > Port makefiles can contain version dependency info, e.g., this > port needs at least version N.M of package X, but few of them do. > > This has bitten me in the past with PHP and pcre. In fact, PHP5 > won't work with old versions of pcre, but the PHP port maintainer > refuses to put in version dependency info, because he thinks that > every port should be up to date all the time. There's also the issue of things like Perl modules - most of them will just work, even with a newer version of perl, but a few have sections that need to be compiled against perl itself. So if you update the Perl port, you need to at least recompile those. (I'm simplifying a bit.) But there is no good way to mark in general which ports will 'just work' with an updated dependency, and which care what version of the dependency was installed when they were compiled. This is separate from versioned dependencies: Again to use Perl modules as an example, DBI for instance is will work with any version of perl since 5.8 or so - but if you change which version of perl you are using you'll need to recompile and reinstall. Rebuilding everything is a bit overkill, but it beats missing one that needed to be rebuilt. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 18:15:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076FB1065677 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:15:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4ED68FC17 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844D61703E; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:15:06 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4FE8AAA9.30504@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:15:05 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:15:09 -0000 Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Al Plant : > >> Thanks.... > >> Of the 4 I had to play with one literally fell apart one scsi card is >> throwing errors. The one I finally got working is an old IDE on a >> FreeBSD 10 box that I experiment with. This should work fine to archive >> the Omega disks we found. > >> Again thanks for heading me on the right path. > >> ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > > What fell apart? Was it the Iomega Zip drive, the disk, or the scsi card? > > I assume Omega is a typo or memory lapse for what should be Iomega? > > IDE has given way on modern motherboards in favor of SATA, but current OSes would still have IDE/ATAPI support. > > You might still be advised to backup or transfer the data on Zip disks to CDs, DVDs or USB sticks or hard drives. > > Remember, Zip disks are just glorified floppies. > > Tom > > ############## Aloha, Iomega yes. Button on front of one unit that released the disks played fell inside when pushed and the plastic cover fell off the top. Dried out from age probably. We are going to put the diles on to flash drive and then onto cd's and DVD's as many files are .jpg or artwork video etc. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 18:23:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151EA1065672 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CB18FC1A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9DFD583 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:23:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 819D1D582; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:23:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p57BDE469.dip.t-dialin.net [87.189.228.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1536AD57F for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:23:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:22:49 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625202249.1d872edf@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <444nq0mjjd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <20120623153710.36e7446f@dijkstra.cruwe.de> <444nq0mjjd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/J2tPh7=N=DJvf7xeUd+anJL"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: changing md5 hashed for sha X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:23:11 -0000 --Sig_/J2tPh7=N=DJvf7xeUd+anJL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:28:38 -0400 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: >=20 > > For setting the dafault hash used to hash /etc/master.passwd, it has > > been recommended changing md5 for something more secure in the > > sense of being more expensive to crack. > > > > The handbook describes the procedure used in > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/crypt.html. > > Allegedly, hashes which were hashed with one of the sha-functions > > begin with the character $6$. > > > > Afer having changed my /etc/login.conf accordingly and having reset > > the passwords, the given there is not md5 anymore (I have tried > > with md5), but does not begin with the character $6$, but, as md5, > > with $1$, which is supposed to be md5-hashed. >=20 > I'm not following. Are you saying that you are resetting the passwords > after setting login.conf, but new passwords aren't being created with > the new hash type?=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Yes, you are following correctly that the hash mechanism did not appear to have changed. It was OSI-8 error on my part, as Mike Tancsa (one message later) helped me to understand. Cheers, --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ: GMT + 2h --Sig_/J2tPh7=N=DJvf7xeUd+anJL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP6KyCAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUefcQAM6ZBjgmgXpoGCQww3dToFmb ZEdCDQ2jtmhdzPozR/pH5f5aGMJslVcXW3dT9oE2qxtqXdL57sLbmo1Dfj6DxIM1 6Ef3ZPXPK7lROmO10sGOsGHUrJK5vmkp++/AvkTD7Hv9zUUmWSopIQAgT4yqzF2p Kt6RmaO8i7ueJdV3v7hGdIE4l9ZI6HEJ3F8gEzFHzj9hCfoSpquZ4QxdWOnT5HmN oVeOx8DCr/MH5gElvtfiGqVPcZE7tQBblj/gWwrTXaYpmRKJfSggl1EpUnXEbUFK mOdNvCthYlz/6adnWDP0k4MVWy+kpNz0WClXJ4+I04amXooOb6PHGci7l0OkBXeC Wof5tf6T4A+BSz+cPxuLkFuGv2ylOpFtfuNMqwlnDHzEjUUsfmE8bOLFeigMPWhg HK73yYQ1NKtyX5m1+8vqrSOJ4Dyg2Ytr1u0ys8Y5H1k9Ylvf5ZzS2KgBjRJsm+Uo +bU4JJAbkaKZ6kxDlii6LolEHw45eh3wbNIx+bQpHhiy5xYK3tPddFlCi9g2TwZJ J6XQKR4rbF5f8ZOF/GyBWipq2InZ533s+MV99aW5fVG+dFjG/S74Ctr+Zgz7dNiq 80rmy2SKp9BdEvrR0thDcsQCU+yzepjx76bDyIHfcwFHEOaRIR8CHawzgpSyNvzZ I80oxVnvXA/HeFOkWi3Y =/MuW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/J2tPh7=N=DJvf7xeUd+anJL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 18:25:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CDE1065675 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E1A8FC1A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CCD1703E; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:25:48 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4FE8AD2C.10507@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:25:48 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <4FE7A9D9.9000508@hdk5.net> <20120624205845.159470b6@europa> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mike Jeays , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:25:49 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> I am amazed anyone still has a working Zip drive! > > I have 250MB zipdrive and 100MB disks. all works properly over USB > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha Woj, How did you get the drive to work with USB? By a hardware adapter? I read there is a USB to ide on the market. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 18:53:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C2D1065670 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0F98FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF50D78F for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:53:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1F615D78E; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:53:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, MIME_BASE64_TEXT autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p57BDE469.dip.t-dialin.net [87.189.228.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6DBECD78C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:53:11 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: Message-ID: <20120625205311.492c1039@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <4FE79D5F.9020402@sentex.net> References: <20120623153710.36e7446f@dijkstra.cruwe.de> <4FE79D5F.9020402@sentex.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: changing md5 hashed for sha X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:53:27 -0000 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpvb3BzIC4u LiBmb3J3YXJkaW5nIHRvIHRoZSBsaXN0IGFsc28NCg0KDQotIC0tLS0tQkVHSU4gUEdQIFNJR05F RCBNRVNTQUdFLS0tLS0NCkhhc2g6IFNIQTENCg0KT24gU3VuLCAyNCBKdW4gMjAxMiAxOTowNjow NyAtMDQwMA0KTWlrZSBUYW5jc2EgPG1pa2VAc2VudGV4Lm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gLS0tLS1C 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1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:58:34 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:58:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 28 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:13:39 -0000 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE I think Xorg is listening on external addresses: $ sockstat -46 |grep Xorg root Xorg 1573 1 tcp6 *:6000 *:* root Xorg 1573 3 tcp4 *:6000 *:* $ netstat -a|grep x11 tcp4 0 0 *.x11 *.* LISTEN tcp6 0 0 *.x11 *.* LISTEN I'm new to FreeBSD, but if I interpret this correctly, x11 is listening for connections on port 6000 for connections from any IPv4 or IPv6 address. I don't think I'm in any immediate danger, as I am behind a router which will block incoming connection attempts, which (virtually) all seem to be on the http port (80) anyway. But it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling to stop x11 listening externally at all - I don't think I need it. How can I go about that please? In case it makes a difference, I am using XDM with standard LXDE. I do not use startx to initiate my sessions. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 19:23:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75014106566C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:23:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0BA8FC0C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.208] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjEsH-0003Wp-Cv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:23:01 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PJMw19001484 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5PJMviq001483 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625192257.GA1464@tiny.Sisis.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.208 Subject: Re: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:23:03 -0000 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 06:58:25PM +0000, Walter Hurry escribió: > $ netstat -a|grep x11 > tcp4 0 0 *.x11 *.* LISTEN > tcp6 0 0 *.x11 *.* LISTEN > > I'm new to FreeBSD, but if I interpret this correctly, x11 is listening > for connections on port 6000 for connections from any IPv4 or IPv6 > address. > > I don't think I'm in any immediate danger, as I am behind a router which > will block incoming connection attempts, which (virtually) all seem to be > on the http port (80) anyway. > > But it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling to stop x11 listening > externally at all - I don't think I need it. How can I go about that > please? $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 19:51:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4851065672 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C7D8FC18 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjFJf-0006ml-1L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:51:19 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:51:19 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:51:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <20120625192257.GA1464@tiny.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:51:23 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten Thanks for the pointer. I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? As far as I can see, XDM invokes /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession, which seems to do little more than call $HOME/.xsession. This last runs /usr/ local/bin/startlxde, which in turn invokes /usr/local/bin/lxsession (a binary). I have looked at 'man lxsession' and found it of little help. So I'm rather lost. Can you amplify a little? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 19:58:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F541065670 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF128FC14 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.208] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjFQv-0007A2-GU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:58:50 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PJweOH001686 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:58:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5PJwbAd001685 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:58:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:58:37 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625195836.GA1678@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120625192257.GA1464@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.208 Subject: Re: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:58:51 -0000 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +0000, Walter Hurry escribió: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten > > Thanks for the pointer. > > I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had > already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer > is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 20:00:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C097B1065686 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B1C8FC17 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5PK0HJ8035750; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:00:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8EE9412355; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:00:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:00:17 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20120625200017.GA9115@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120625091535.GA1324@tiny.Sisis.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:00:50 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:15:36AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a > Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I > could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, > but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from > our ports. =20 For converting to postscript: graphics/jpeg2ps-a4 or graphics/jpeg2ps-lette= r. Multiple page on one sheet with psnup from print/psutils-a4 or print/psutils-letter.=20 If you are already using it, LaTeX would also do the trick quite nicely. Especially with the Beamer class for nicely styled and formatted slides. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamer_%28LaTeX%29] Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/ow1EACgkQEnfvsMMhpyULXQCcDOi1KhAL9XRYkqDKYwPnTaqm gWIAoKWzBjJASltg0Evwo6Ti2LOv5aOB =Ddjf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 20:05:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D34106564A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5938FC15 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.208] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjFXm-0000xy-Fp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:54 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5PK5pLa001743 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5PK5oMq001742 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625200549.GA1733@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120625192257.GA1464@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625195836.GA1678@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120625195836.GA1678@tiny.Sisis.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.208 Subject: Re: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:05:57 -0000 El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +0000, Walter Hurry escribió: > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten > > > > Thanks for the pointer. > > > > I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had > > already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer > > is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? > > $ cat ~/.xserverrc > exec X -nolisten tcp -retro sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is: $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 20:17:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952F61065675 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403558FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CE3DB9A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:17:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 24FF5DB98; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:17:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p57BDE469.dip.t-dialin.net [87.189.228.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F6B9DB92 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:17:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:17:11 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: Message-ID: <20120625221711.7aec82b8@dijkstra.cruwe.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/1VVpC_JaedELNaF2kSGT7P8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: IPNAT seems to affect network performance? of jails on lo0 (10.0.0.0/24) - why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:17:23 -0000 --Sig_/1VVpC_JaedELNaF2kSGT7P8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On a KVM virtualized host, I run FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 and some qjails, 8.3-RELEASE. The jails are connected all via lo0 on 10.0.0.0. While by the large working as expected, I have noticed one pecularity I have failed to pinpoint: When launching processes with some network interaction, like sshing into one of the jails from the platform or launching emacs, the command spends ages ( ~(1-2) minutes) idling? (nothing happens) before becoming interactive. For reasons unreleated, I have enabled NAT with ipf for the jails on 10.0.0.0/24 (to the external re0 IF and some IP) and, out of the blue, logging into the jails or starting emacs became snappy again. Why? Why does ipnatting jails which should be connected via the same lo0 on 10.0.0.0 have any impact? Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining and it solved an issue which gave me kind of headaches, but I would like to understand.=20 Thanks and cheers, --=20 Christopher TZ: GMT + 2h --Sig_/1VVpC_JaedELNaF2kSGT7P8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP6MdNAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwU/D8P/3CHEmz78AqpHKP0MB08+ppS 9lGBuSq+vHzHp3T6bNC+tfG3Mi4Be5vycHt2LjXfaNA6EliycK9vjy6HF8vf74Dh Zr94p42eD1ga7rlrgv/WeBHtYQX4a5UWGSDM8O/bpysqrKD6vqtGXTwQMpX0BJmH o/SvEmAM6nlZk6kUMIIh8ZE9uQQJ8DhmJNt3ivtkx4HRTN2pb2S8Vz2s7xpbZ+WE z7qimaXC+iwztD4cEZcPuQcMy36dK7P/ZslnppV+oswhqPHU2K73ucDVVTldBfy7 V7kr6CEbDB9RfO15DboEBbK6teNO8y+U8gJ5saXn4q+xT8y4+4lz06X4d/18lc03 x17xni019j8fiDszNfW1/l0cwNpjSjH+NzA77w9tZmis3zmiWRhL8KK/ZLRydBh9 7P3JHkg7fAH7mbEwvJBJoXENz7Edzg50V2+6c91PANXfKkgJfqnUn1jqro3JBUGc D+tj3isGzwi437wx+ly6phCZ49K6LAZcTDDR+CckNmcmrjaQVKw1Zx3P6O+eGGDn vjEJD/dxHdLWYCdq/H3jnjxnrm3whBTm6gqBET0tlf53LJYMTwuavqYv1HdUgGmk POFfi8iLTmTXL9hjmwaL9WHvev1AOtOTkrkhTsvCYZ0A+9tskqICVLxKx/WTcjAC i1iPXc90BWX4rahZsOMa =+EA5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/1VVpC_JaedELNaF2kSGT7P8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 20:18:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17566106566C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848378FC15 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: <4FE8C72F.4040908@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:16:47 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2012 20:16:51.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[75161A10:01CD530F] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Subject: fetch error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:18:01 -0000 I think I messed up the fetch setting in the envelope. Running 9.0 and get this console msg. env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory When I enter env command to show all values I see nothing about fetch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 20:22:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442321065670 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emmakhaze@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BF78FC15 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so8559942lbo.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:22:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=GjBr05NPynu4PavfZVdzIUDJovgzVC4PzxVO6rYPy0Q=; b=fFkJe+wpkx9cEtZKCCamsjX09CM0X24PS652aJvSEp6s8pnT09WVSDIQb2Mt+pkUiV msGFcvWKDOO2ynkXEZvMOdYHtFneERzhdXb6C2516Q72ZWHv6Zjc/uvF+YDXk00GoyoP wjdA8muRdQ75/ZU5i+svE64iB+qIMbK+MfcNLxx2Ep53ssSq4GcEPrJKMa9asqC8Co5f BANzIhqnyp27sJ/8oYz91cdrfE/PEsyS8rXb2zPRBuqsYK3NN9IO5ED1gqVxNIE5XXaW VIywS7BQtAUX7bCNhaKTio+W/Bd2nRR5dF/Q1fLfBElBZLDikjwtbEGxIckUXp/JncLO UOIg== Received: by 10.112.23.200 with SMTP id o8mr6652927lbf.9.1340655743687; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:22:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.44.166 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:21:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Emma Haze Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:21:43 +0800 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Broken link on your website X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:22:25 -0000 Hi! Wanted to touch base real quick and see if you have had already looked into my suggested resource and decide if it's a good replacement for the broken link on your page? Let me know what you think! Emma On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Emma Haze wrote: > Hi There, > > Sorry, I'm not sure whether I've already contacted you about this, so I > apologize if I'm notifying you a second time. But I had noticed that you > have a broken link on your page at cybershade.us/freebsd/www/securitylinking to > http://www.shmoo.com/securecode/, so I wanted to inform you in case you > are not aware of this. And if you are still updating your website, I've > included a similar resource on Secure Programming that you can replace the > broken link with if you are interested. Thanks for maintaining a great site! > > Link: http://www.onlineitdegree.net/resources/secure-programming/ > > Best Regards, > Emma > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 20:33:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB54C106566C for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630AB8FC0A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SjFyW-0004GX-M2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:33:32 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:33:32 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:33:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <20120625192257.GA1464@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625195836.GA1678@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625200549.GA1733@tiny.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:35 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz > escribió: > >> El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +0000, Walter Hurry >> escribió: >> >> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> > >> > > $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten >> > >> > Thanks for the pointer. >> > >> > I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I >> > had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that >> > the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? >> >> $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro > > sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is: > > $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc > Thanks again for your assistance. I didn't have a $HOME/.xserverrc, so I created one with your contents (permissions 744). It doesn't seem to have made any difference at all, though. After restart, I am still getting the same output from netstat and sockstat. So I'm still in the dark. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 20:52:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3422B1065673 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E914A8FC1A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-5.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.5]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FDA3DD44; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5PKqQke002972; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Message-Id: <20120625225226.7a5c88db.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FE8C72F.4040908@a1poweruser.com> References: <4FE8C72F.4040908@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: fetch error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:52:34 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:16:47 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > I think I messed up the fetch setting in the envelope. > > Running 9.0 and get this console msg. > > env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory > > When I enter env command to show all values I see nothing about fetch. The "env" command is often used as a "bridge" to explicitely call commands where the actual location is not known or cannot be predicted, e. g. #!/usr/bin/env bash at the start of a bash script instead of #!/bin/bash Linuxism or when statically linked, as opposed to #!/usr/local/bin/bash default location on FreeBSD. In what operation do you receive the message? Maybe some typo in a shell script or Makefile? Examine closely: env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory ^ The leading / is missing, because "usr/bin/fetch" would only exist when $CWD is /, otherwise not; "/usr/bin/fetch" should be correct. % which fetch /usr/bin/fetch ^ Here the correct path is provided. Maybe you ran into some script that calls fetch the "bridge" way improperly? Test: % env usr/bin/fetch env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory And now properly: % env /usr/bin/fetch usage: fetch [-146AadFlMmnPpqRrsUv] ............ It seems that env is used here to "set environment and execute command"; see "man env" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 21:05:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE22A106566B for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A158A8FC08 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pHbkxZ0h8ZS9DqzPw6kOhrcCo0SfRyEK96t5CLhlwoM= c=1 sm=0 a=zPNYJ5g_VMMA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=O7UxgQScAAAA:8 a=2byvQiBnrmm14M7c_z8A:9 a=fwB95NgSuesA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:52653] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id B8/5B-02168-2A2D8EF4; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:05:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Mike Jeays , Wojciech Puchar , Al Plant Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:05:46 -0000 from Al Plant : > Aloha Woj, > How did you get the drive to work with USB? By a hardware adapter? I > read there is a USB to ide on the market. I remember specifically that Iomega produced USB Zip drives, though not when they first produced SCSI, ATAPI and parallel-port Zip drives. One problem with SCSI was so many different hardware interfaces in terms of number of holes/pins, meaning incompatibility. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu4sm425807wib.2.2012.06.25.15.08.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:08:36 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120625230836.04d76f3b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:08:48 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Hey there, > > I'm presently in the process of trying to do a portupgrade from > rt-3.8.8 to 3.8.13. By all estimations, this is a minor bump. > > Already, I've encountered several annoyances due to ABI changes, such > as the libtool2.4 fun. With normal portupgrade, this forces you to > go fix the dependent port. I don't know what you mean by that > Finally, I just applied -r, which should update all dependent > packages, but it seems to upgrade them unconditionally. That's because the revisions numbers will have been bumped, it's nothing to do with portupgrade. > Ergo, I've since built a new version of perl, a new verion of python, > rebuilt every perl module on the system, am presently rebuilding > apache22, and I'm sure the system will turn around and require me to > rebuild postgres real soon. > > You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says "don't > upgrade every single package I've got, Firstly it doesn't. Secondly no one is forcing you to do this, if you want to go through the ports and work out which need an update and which don't then portupgrade will let you do that. > but if somewhere in the > dependency chain I need a newer version of a thing, then do it." > > Am I just missing it in the manpages, or does such a thing really not > exist? > > -Dan > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 22:24:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC811065673 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E447E8FC0A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2012 18:23:57 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BVE71489; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:23:56 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2012 18:23:56 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20456.58620.356372.475182@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:23:56 -0400 To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" In-Reply-To: <20120625221711.7aec82b8@dijkstra.cruwe.de> References: <20120625221711.7aec82b8@dijkstra.cruwe.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IPNAT seems to affect network performance? of jails on lo0 (10.0.0.0/24) - why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:24:06 -0000 Christopher J. Ruwe writes: > On a KVM virtualized host, I run FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 and some > qjails, 8.3-RELEASE. The jails are connected all via lo0 on > 10.0.0.0. > > While by the large working as expected, I have noticed one > pecularity I have failed to pinpoint: When launching processes > with some network interaction, like sshing into one of the jails > from the platform or launching emacs, the command spends ages ( > ~(1-2) minutes) idling? (nothing happens) before becoming > interactive. If the number is very close to 90 seconds, my first guess would be you have a DNS problem. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 22:39:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411D11065673 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DC78FC12 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.199.104]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:39:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4FE8E887.80605@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:39:03 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4FE8C72F.4040908@a1poweruser.com> <20120625225226.7a5c88db.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120625225226.7a5c88db.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2012 22:39:06.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[544940A0:01CD5323] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: fetch error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:39:07 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:16:47 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I think I messed up the fetch setting in the envelope. >> >> Running 9.0 and get this console msg. >> >> env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory >> >> When I enter env command to show all values I see nothing about fetch. > > The "env" command is often used as a "bridge" to explicitely > call commands where the actual location is not known or cannot > be predicted, e. g. > > #!/usr/bin/env bash > > at the start of a bash script instead of > > #!/bin/bash > > Linuxism or when statically linked, as opposed to > > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > > default location on FreeBSD. > > > > In what operation do you receive the message? Maybe some typo > in a shell script or Makefile? > > Examine closely: > > env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory > ^ > > The leading / is missing, because "usr/bin/fetch" would only > exist when $CWD is /, otherwise not; "/usr/bin/fetch" should > be correct. > > % which fetch > /usr/bin/fetch > ^ > > Here the correct path is provided. Maybe you ran into some script > that calls fetch the "bridge" way improperly? > > Test: > > % env usr/bin/fetch > env: usr/bin/fetch: No such file or directory > > And now properly: > > % env /usr/bin/fetch > usage: fetch [-146AadFlMmnPpqRrsUv] ............ > > It seems that env is used here to "set environment and execute > command"; see "man env" for details. > > > I get that env error when running the new csup. A few months back I was fooling around with pf firewall and was testing different env settings to test passive mode with pf. I think i changed this environment value and made a typo leaving off the leading /. I no longer remember the environment name I used when I did the typo. Can you help me with what the name is to use? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 22:52:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CF01065673; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C268FC0A; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so9102937obb.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:52:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KcpgPPOLmrklKztezFMRCKuYboE22M8KLzztREwnRVc=; b=rwvGR1W96ynosjLiwwUn3mP1C1j2p3f+BMxXiMoiuu4Nmct/ePdwDMgAdJskCQMbJl PqHEPirRnaQaFChlrOjAW+RevbfqSRVyWRa2J9mlftwR4BfAsK+19xelrJKK0lIcS+55 Gl5jwL9glH5GQ3Zf+WrJMuU0Z0eOly0b2BKmssVNEbJHJLOYeT+7D1b4/kalRfvjYlCR osdZTNewwGlEGz4WSKKvvEItLd6iDwVoSouwUuXWTh0aMVk/PwUZ45REt9NEb2SqxgfP MKLDDqijIJpsO769P8kPjB7hj2ET61zgu25DAoYRyjwdSszr27WyGj+oobT4oxxD0HEN ufGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.136.4 with SMTP id pw4mr13908873obb.28.1340664735501; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.10.34 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:52:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:52:15 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d_zPKUB-mnE14QdtDNGivMYeAO4 Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Jack Vogel , Andrew Boyer , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:16 -0000 Turns out the gbic in the switch was bad...I didn't think there was a problem on the host, but you all still gave me some good info. I appreciate it! On 6/25/12, Rick Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jack Vogel wrote: >> Would probably be good to take care of the storm threshold if you >> haven't, >> set it to 0 >> and you disable the check, that's what we do internally. As for the >> queues >> and number >> of descriptors, that's kind of up to you, different work loads and >> environments work best >> with different setups. >> >> Hopefully, when you get rid of the rx ring setup failure you will get >> things >> working. > > Thanks, Jack. I did get rid of the rx ring failure. Link status > still shows no carrier. I think everything looks right from the > host's perspective. > > -- > Take care > Rick Miller > -- Sent from my mobile device Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 25 22:54:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B011065677; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A5E8FC1E; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so4407903wgb.31 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Shxmdu4CZ1l+cAcJY/6y6EbqTb13LRLw/+Au4WEq+n4=; b=tvMEOjK/K5dF46T8491tl4OXBDG3zxT/VYIi4udum4JUraCGNv/cnJ7e22e0sPZPPZ Z6JYvfUEFg6e/ICrveHN/g9WHp+xc91CdPQZ6bvVwnHkJaR0rJUZgZKDxKCGZs12L8fi EMNf1i92NAP10qj2lOPnj/6KkdBMkqlOSjb1OShRcI+ppTuSqpFapgH1NKiYFk53z8N+ ftrHWgBseTAzFBpVSVYrtquM3t9cKK6vyW120vVYqZ3eIDMrk4zqPjUcBPHaNKUpMiXt 5yqhJViCd/v8sIOW/Nb3ib6+CRZC6y62msKvP9kYHTv5bG1nHye9CdY+iKr8T10gLO4N V0dQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.196.147 with SMTP id r19mr7454706wen.87.1340664877271; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.232 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:54:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:54:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jack Vogel To: Rick Miller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , Andrew Boyer Subject: Re: Intel X520-DA2 Supported in stable/8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:54:40 -0000 Glad you figured it out. Cheers, Jack On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rick Miller wrote: > Turns out the gbic in the switch was bad...I didn't think there was a > problem on the host, but you all still gave me some good info. I > appreciate it! > > > > On 6/25/12, Rick Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jack Vogel wrote: > >> Would probably be good to take care of the storm threshold if you > >> haven't, > >> set it to 0 > >> and you disable the check, that's what we do internally. As for the > >> queues > >> and number > >> of descriptors, that's kind of up to you, different work loads and > >> environments work best > >> with different setups. > >> > >> Hopefully, when you get rid of the rx ring setup failure you will get > >> things > >> working. > > > > Thanks, Jack. I did get rid of the rx ring failure. Link status > > still shows no carrier. I think everything looks right from the > > host's perspective. > > > > -- > > Take care > > Rick Miller > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Take care > Rick Miller > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 00:18:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428FA1065696 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=5172738e8=Brett.Wright@cooperindustries.com) Received: from cooperlighting-sw.cooperlighting.com (cooperlighting-sw.cooperlighting.com [216.130.131.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B508FC12 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: cooperlighting-sw.cooperlighting.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,475,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="59020188" Received: from cipt0175.nam.ci.root ([10.132.108.175]) by cooperlighting-sw.cooperlighting.com with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2012 20:17:40 -0400 Received: from APEVS1.AP.CI.ROOT ([10.180.2.22]) by cipt0175.NAM.CI.ROOT with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:17:39 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-puzzleid: {459A8EB6-6C61-4C00-9DA0-C4E052C30EF2} MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AEKc ANd6 ARoQ AbXq AfDY DWf2 Da65 EeD5 FfrA FoCG HNBe Hfun HtK3 I7c3 KRoF KrZU; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {459A8EB6-6C61-4C00-9DA0-C4E052C30EF2}; YgByAGUAdAB0AC4AdwByAGkAZwBoAHQAQABjAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBpAG4AZAB1AHMAdAByAGkAZQBzAC4AYwBvAG0A; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:16:16 GMT; RABGAFMAIABhAG4AZAAgAEEAdABoAGUAcgBvAHMA Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:16:16 +0800 Message-ID: <475A4E02EFF4724A9E58F55A56AC131605F7B3D2@APEVS1.ap.ci.root> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DFS and Atheros Thread-Index: Ac1TMOdHComZ+WRvTwa+95skJjKPKg== From: "Wright, Brett" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2012 00:17:40.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[1918A1C0:01CD5331] Subject: DFS and Atheros X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:18:49 -0000 Hi All, I recently read Adrian Chadd's Blog and was delighted to see that FreeBSD has support for ETSI and FCC radar test patterns. My question is whether the DFS implementation in FreeBSD suffers from the same problem as madwifi-dfs suffered from which was a very high false-positive rate? This meant that the madwifi DFS was virtually unusable for practical purposes where high throughput was required... 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(was Xorg listening on the WAN?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 03:44:19 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:33:15 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:05:50 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 09:58:37PM +0200, Matthias Apitz >> escribió: >> >>> El día Monday, June 25, 2012 a las 07:51:02PM +0000, Walter Hurry >>> escribió: >>> >>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:22:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> > >>> > > $ man Xorg | col -b | fgrep -- -nolisten >>> > >>> > Thanks for the pointer. >>> > >>> > I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I >>> > had already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that >>> > the answer is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? >>> >>> $ cat ~/.xserverrc exec X -nolisten tcp -retro >> >> sorry, it took me some time to remember where the pointer is: >> >> $ man xinit | col -b | fgrep xserverrc >> > Thanks again for your assistance. I didn't have a $HOME/.xserverrc, so I > created one with your contents (permissions 744). > > It doesn't seem to have made any difference at all, though. After > restart, I am still getting the same output from netstat and sockstat. > > So I'm still in the dark. Of course! Looking back at the output from sockstat in my original post, X is running under root, so no amount of tinkering with files in $HOME is going to change anything. So I looked into XDM's configuration files in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm, and found what change did the trick: $ cat /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers # # Xservers file, workstation prototype # # This file should contain an entry to start the server on the # local display; if you have more than one display (not screen), # you can add entries to the list (one per line). If you also # have some X terminals connected which do not support XDMCP, # you can add them here as well. Each X terminal line should # look like: # XTerminalName:0 foreign # :0 local /usr/local/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 If there's batter way of doing this, please would someone let me know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 04:53:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A75C10656D2 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jsudin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8AA8FC18 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so8060836pbb.13 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:53:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=YIVNUOm9egUCuSw20CF6BFmAog6Of9fh4ei1aHsSpg4=; b=YGOtsaJ3Npk2PkxOOAFOJgTbKDuTqJMy5KAIBd/RNfwpbY4/7L4zDulR224qGofO5F bUViB8djXXxTTZ9gzvPUBkb12e0C55hv4FnvwNPXcaDamFbSG96n0v23bagLYn5AM/Gd t5bc3/Q07i013CP/BpbICNflvm5KCiJWU1PuNh5Jtyi/uv3A6KFHF0WG+MsGjpEHVicY 9Ix5RHScOj6DUe4iDeRPM7j+2za6if+xYbaN5PcPzR49tg96dd2S0OTqO5A9xk2CgU04 mCxgXHvQk/zwcnWvKofaBCn6XGBUaaB9ta6KybF0AaqiM5zOzq35Vw5a1RDRUC2B9vb7 QShA== Received: by 10.68.241.227 with SMTP id wl3mr47410545pbc.89.1340686426589; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from none501d0d47ee (99-45-168-11.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [99.45.168.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gg10sm10655297pbc.51.2012.06.25.21.53.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000601cd5357$a8f6d020$4007a8c0@none501d0d47ee> From: "j" To: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:53:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: files need X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:53:47 -0000 I am a newbie to linux and unix. I want to install freebsd 8.3 and want = to know what files I need to download. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 05:01:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD22D106566C for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCD88FC0C for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-5.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.5]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C9F3D820; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:01:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5Q51G2D005590; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:01:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:01:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "j" Message-Id: <20120626070116.f2e0245b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <000601cd5357$a8f6d020$4007a8c0@none501d0d47ee> References: <000601cd5357$a8f6d020$4007a8c0@none501d0d47ee> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: files need X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:01:18 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:53:37 -0700, j wrote: > I am a newbie to linux and unix. I want to install freebsd 8.3 > and want to know what files I need to download. You can find all required information on FreeBSD's website, http://www.freebsd.org/ I recommend checking "The FreeBSD Handbook" regarding installation. What files to obtain is also covered in that section (because it depends on e. g. what architecture you want to use it, what kind of media you need and how you want to download it). For example, here you'll find the installation media: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/8.3/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 05:48:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD101065670 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190888FC0C for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5Q5mAgc003494; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5Q5mAhI003491; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Walter Hurry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:48:15 -0000 Xorg -nolisten tcp to disable at all to disable wan only use firewall On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Walter Hurry wrote: > FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE > > I think Xorg is listening on external addresses: > > $ sockstat -46 |grep Xorg > root Xorg 1573 1 tcp6 *:6000 *:* > root Xorg 1573 3 tcp4 *:6000 *:* > $ netstat -a|grep x11 > tcp4 0 0 *.x11 *.* LISTEN > tcp6 0 0 *.x11 *.* LISTEN > > I'm new to FreeBSD, but if I interpret this correctly, x11 is listening > for connections on port 6000 for connections from any IPv4 or IPv6 > address. > > I don't think I'm in any immediate danger, as I am behind a router which > will block incoming connection attempts, which (virtually) all seem to be > on the http port (80) anyway. > > But it would give me a warm fuzzy feeling to stop x11 listening > externally at all - I don't think I need it. How can I go about that > please? > > In case it makes a difference, I am using XDM with standard LXDE. I do > not use startx to initiate my sessions. > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 05:48:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E893A10656D1 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F68FC0C for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5Q5mTIU003500; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5Q5mTCi003497; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Walter Hurry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120625192257.GA1464@tiny.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:48:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg listening on the WAN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:48:34 -0000 > > I'm probably being stupid here, and I should have mentioned that I had > already tried 'man Xorg' and 'man Xsession'. I appreciate that the answer > is probably to put '-nolisten tcp' somewhere, but where? > > As far as I can see, XDM invokes /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession, which at Xservers file > seems to do little more than call $HOME/.xsession. This last runs /usr/ > local/bin/startlxde, which in turn invokes /usr/local/bin/lxsession (a > binary). > > I have looked at 'man lxsession' and found it of little help. So I'm > rather lost. Can you amplify a little? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 05:49:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01ACD106566B for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8288FC27 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5Q5nBdb003506; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:49:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5Q5nBPP003503; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:49:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:49:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:49:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Mike Jeays , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant Subject: Re: Omega Zip Drives on FreeBSD 8.* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:49:16 -0000 > >> How did you get the drive to work with USB? By a hardware adapter? I i have USB drives. not an adapter >> read there is a USB to ide on the market. > > I remember specifically that Iomega produced USB Zip drives, though not when they first produced SCSI, ATAPI and parallel-port Zip drives. > > One problem with SCSI was so many different hardware interfaces in terms of number of holes/pins, meaning incompatibility. > > Tom > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 07:46:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8CE1065670; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDA18FC08; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so4693058wgb.31 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:46:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=fKHh8K8ycc52Nmu31SMqcnZGq5wyuyjA+qPOM7a2iU4=; b=oc574pboXChGJveZWLK0i3GzYOBG+2ziyxPVNsXOhWmRlX3EK5iPlkYhQ9R+fxe2Eg Ql0eT3KMSa2dL0LZsdlFGMyZsiKo5fkyvqG2CfOUatkU+5L3FCTL9YSsaPrN3oRAeGSU x5mc9M6vaTc9hKiet2811j4dggzwNlRI0HJ+tTsAbxMjGgDBhuTtFQh/+pgCrvQm/ybG wSFg8Uxa3uDnuUxYoTMkFBIQGnetSwMhynI1FhCCDdQW0dZDz77NJ42PViWZA3Ezr4O3 6sPsR5RpEqtN+59hdWELxeR2TYxDpPhUuD9LT3bWFLRN6h5GL2zjQyH7Z2FQMjWZrfEK Vfqw== Received: by 10.180.82.42 with SMTP id f10mr29051121wiy.22.1340696767597; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-0-78.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.135.0.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gb9sm2848722wib.8.2012.06.26.00.46.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:46:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:45:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.8.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2383637.ndcBmyasqS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206260946.01639.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.7 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:46:09 -0000 --nextPart2383637.ndcBmyasqS Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.7 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. Th= e=20 packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng* [3] format. =20 There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users= ). The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessible). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.7,1.tbz) =3D=20 0178e90ad6cdcdf61d22324c8ccdeab5 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.7,1.txz) =3D=20 c658144284981dbc1543365f7d644534 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.7,1.txz) =3D=20 921a5a114cc4feb75446ff491168dca5 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh * pkgng support for nVidia patching should be working properly and using a= =20 mixed mode between pkgng and pkg also works --nextPart2383637.ndcBmyasqS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk/paLkACgkQUaaFgP9pFrK4DgCgg9wYTpxvJxDAX1haiWJDT/M7 qXIAoIlbAXmRSWo+XPjE2f0SdEsEIUNL =/LIw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2383637.ndcBmyasqS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 14:17:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669741065814 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E748FC08 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5QEHYxk001936; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:17:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5QEHYpx001933; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:17:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:17:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Walter Hurry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120625192257.GA1464@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625195836.GA1678@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120625200549.GA1733@tiny.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:17:34 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SOLVED: Xorg listening on the WAN? (was Xorg listening on the WAN?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:17:40 -0000 > # look like: > # XTerminalName:0 foreign > # > :0 local /usr/local/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 > > If there's batter way of doing this, please would someone let me know. this is the right way if you use xdm. similar settings are in kdm and gdm possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 14:30:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F7F106564A for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D097B8FC20 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so2014227qab.13 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:30:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/wrjclGV6A7V5yn1vQUukiCOxx1aab60mu+IihslFl0=; b=hM5wtKVQ2O2gxQ/qbg2ODmMDzXoPQPkooFsYPiBKly1wo+L0sSbqO2m5htcGKf1zJ3 5mRFDZGPq+AUTyh9I24gVJ79SJ0JTcIDwUIMoDJcjG7Lc+jo8I/nFRG2PEgexVN4rOxm ZgquHXaB+kc2juOB0fd0vHLB1mmIaxl2dkdMM2HEo6IBz4Cm2VnvYckF3g9q37elNcmA 1I6sMTFndmYN3LgfhfbTfqG4pT9KvkYb1a27Mk4w+mVxiwjLr/z+yZJD+R4BG82MVVY6 /z4LpPZK7cDXhKeDkroPMPG2KaG8giKQBQePEbmqhPlR4/teK+riftyJCsnQgufoJOvS YPKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.47.66 with SMTP id b2mr16389604obn.2.1340721051928; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.10.34 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:30:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4PTaqlEiCY9kfOPHWiVQYw8SR_o Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: sysinstall diskPartitionEditor Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:30:53 -0000 Hi All, I'd like to set the offset/starting cylinder in install.cfg so that partitions begin on appropriate boundaries. The applicable section of install.cfg looks like the following. My assumption is that I need to make the changes in the "partition" section. Is this correct? Is the format of this value the same as a typical fdisk config file? ### Begin install.cfg snippet disk=\${disk} partition=all bootManager=standard diskPartitionEditor # root \${disk}s1-1=ufs 12582912 / # swap \${disk}s1-2=swap ${swap} none # tmp \${disk}s1-3=ufs 2097152 /tmp 1 # 2 GB var \${disk}s1-4=ufs 4194304 /var 1 # 2 GB home \${disk}s1-5=ufs 4194304 /home 1 diskLabelEditor ### End snippet -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 14:58:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C4F106566C for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C018FC19 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73297DA26 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:58:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 5ADB8DA25; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:58:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p57BDE469.dip.t-dialin.net [87.189.228.105]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6A7ADA22 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:58:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:58:25 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120626165825.000ff9d5@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20456.58620.356372.475182@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20120625221711.7aec82b8@dijkstra.cruwe.de> <20456.58620.356372.475182@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/5V+ODDXy6h7vGeQ/.V2=8dg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: IPNAT seems to affect network performance? of jails on lo0 (10.0.0.0/24) - why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:58:50 -0000 --Sig_/5V+ODDXy6h7vGeQ/.V2=8dg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:23:56 -0400 Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Christopher J. Ruwe writes: >=20 > > On a KVM virtualized host, I run FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 and some > > qjails, 8.3-RELEASE. The jails are connected all via lo0 on > > 10.0.0.0. > > =20 > > While by the large working as expected, I have noticed one > > pecularity I have failed to pinpoint: When launching processes > > with some network interaction, like sshing into one of the jails > > from the platform or launching emacs, the command spends ages ( > > ~(1-2) minutes) idling? (nothing happens) before becoming > > interactive. >=20 > If the number is very close to 90 seconds, my first guess > would be you have a DNS problem. >=20 >=20 > Robert Huff >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks for the hint. It was DNS ... I have copied a resolv.conf into the jails for future use, but did not enable NAT from the start.=20 The issue disappeared when I commented out the nameserver entries and switched NAT off again, i.e., I could login using ssh in a matter of seconds, not minutes. Now to the followup: Why does ssh and emacs! require DNS for entirely local connections or just to be started? Anyway, thanks for that hint, cheers, --=20 Christopher TZ: GMT + 2h --Sig_/5V+ODDXy6h7vGeQ/.V2=8dg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP6c4XAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUgFsP+wWzDWO0Zpa1SlhGuOPGag5b LcGo8+D8mJB+CbkU7VSXm/5MREGNKCVuutrSvGt1sU24to8pfexfPM29Mb87qg+E m5JXN0nQL/Mar43UAGbtl8oVuYqoZovh0srfNMxbpBtSTm2V3CvcLZIZd6ybGTTR XThqdm+MqUujlWduPSh3gbhBgwRo/2wWacUaICBTJXKCszvYlBpCz8Lm+uH3Ytfa bavG+rtV32oi9cIC3wfNWzHzn8IBW79wkNC81Jh8F9WBuTYYITNT7uQ8nrqV007H qBHsLAOa9S7xZ6dr47WQr6Pv9ZKlJfHk2JYB588EfRZxtDUioqngBGNRfNoJRcuu I8Sss4SnBChtNWEJrFF5aCROQ5wzF75gLEhSDzvE1Ke0ovr1wEkrK4V+qBRxsb4i EXpmHGFE2ZzBngOT1rSqRA/xDthLC6lGtu8qUznBpqXedaZ7doSohqJpgg/SZPDi 5wAkTmje1E4Z3FNtS2J/zmPzPmwMIjnqrfWPsbxbtwNSdseHB36JHy1LqQkawKCw 52u9cyR71FTXg98RKxG4RpXTrWwRdFOOVQfYjLIfgjA8JqViN4rRWBCg53LIMI7v m0afLApdyFunQetzslx8H7KCt2CYzOUPfhqx7hNXJj+oSNww9Be60TUyLg0IOeqr zgsfLAikQ+6hD8e/zZOv =pMSf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/5V+ODDXy6h7vGeQ/.V2=8dg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 15:19:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AC21065826 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@jerrymc.net) Received: from jerrymc.net (jerrymc.net [75.75.214.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EF98FC16 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jerrymc.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jerrymc.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5QFJFo1026396; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:19:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@jerrymc.net) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by jerrymc.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5QFJFmd026395; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:19:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:19:15 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: j Message-ID: <20120626151915.GB26342@jerrymc.net> References: <000601cd5357$a8f6d020$4007a8c0@none501d0d47ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601cd5357$a8f6d020$4007a8c0@none501d0d47ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: files need X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:19:44 -0000 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 09:53:37PM -0700, j wrote: > I am a newbie to linux and unix. I want to install freebsd 8.3 and > want to know what files I need to download. Go to: http://www.freebsd.org/ and study the handbook. It has complete sections on getting ISO files and doing the installation. By the way, you will not want Linux files for a FreeBSD install. FreeBSD is not Linux. It is BSD UNIX. Although it does have a Lunix compatibility mode and libraries, it is a completely different thing with somewhat different philosophy and quite a different structure from Lunix. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 22:13:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA38106566C for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843D98FC1B for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56so511696yhq.17 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:13:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=gfvFjjg9Gxv4edlij9xdkhPLsMRaQb8+X7ucZlunHN8=; b=jOH9fDKqESiyn5muZ34EA9ULByIB1PAXIekZ13jkLYD4wfFv1HRX0DKyaigCKErxE/ VpOWK8CFfmoNqMowgxaX8bGcvF2RECFyOqd4616IewwhkuEptLsMMeUkRZeKFJz9kNdq bAJlPh1Z9bM//nr/PF2cS8Pq+sH6rZvJPyfxGMvgUmGv5OAV8++RnbpDZuH2y15iYnXl xy03Gz4pUIgipEzKEpRFTSiHy7iqsqKxnagOJB7gEUq7x+5c1PNZkrR40cYoRx1HQssM MeXa3j0XbH/j21Ckd5Y7cN0qRZHBsiiuCjF6+yPLhqAEF28GRnnuv+9Rm6O4YQKGpOZN T4Aw== Received: by 10.50.156.228 with SMTP id wh4mr11147053igb.47.1340748816659; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nh8sm3643691igc.1.2012.06.26.15.13.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:13:36 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 17:13:21 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206261713.21233.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: llvm/clang 3.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:13:37 -0000 Hi! Today was upadate for llvm and clang 3.1. My system is FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3. I update the system with pormaster and llvm was updated to 3.1 but clang shows clang version 3.0 (branches/release_30 142614) 20111021 I installed lang/clang which is 3.1 and I have it in /usr/local/bin: clang version 3.1 (branches/release_31) Target: i386-portbld-freebsd9.0 In /etc/make.conf I have: CC=clang CXX=clang++ CPP=clang-cpp Today I try to build with /usr/local/bin/clang which is 3.1 and it works for graphics/opengtl but it didn't work for multimedia/cuse4bsd-kmod 0.1.24 and than I change back as I wrote above in make.conf and everythink works and I rebuilt opengtl whith clang 3.0 and it works. Is it important just update llvm to 3.1 on FreeBSD 9.0 Rel;ease, please? Do I need to pkg_delete lang/clang? Thank in advance. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 26 23:11:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2AC106566B for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD35D8FC0A for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so385449vcb.13 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:11:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FDvxSM9zY/V/9LqCKD5731lvwHibAnIs27UTcPTM/2Y=; b=AIEjPiq1DkdKNJOOv3i101cAsS+8AUNhgH0kEnSAJGcUmQnZqXmCrd37xxZccTAAKS 0g4G6jNN2AvcnfqUj9Qg+FjroIidxy+xnjfjjiYwsQAIa9pcuf7LS4+Pfs9o1Q0BKAC/ 0xR0hkzTSPTWYohrPdufE22DjSXeZVR6vbW+vFiI6IfjSAmYTVhT/iaU+g/ElQI3Lc1k Onz85q7cQ3rI1GUE3cGUueAmcafaJZxKYPUtXg8MkIICPdO3rAJmRGbr9DnfMsXs7i90 bdmZWh6r7sL5q9z2LtKGAFbbVZMyayYAQ5O0mT6f/jxEDLhJokjD0FenR3BG4jCNvx2A sZyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.28.202 with SMTP id d10mr10361518vdh.39.1340752311578; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.16.148 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:11:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Freeze when running freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:11:58 -0000 I've run into a totally reproducible freeze in 9.0. There are a number of variables involved, but I'm able to reproduce this freeze 100% of the time. I'm installing very small servers in a Xen HVM virtualization environment. Each instance has 128M memory and 4G of disk space. There is 384M of swap encrypted using geli_swap_flags="-d -l 256 -s 4096". The rest of the disk space is encrypted with "geli init -b -v -a hmac/sha256 -l 256 -s 4096 /dev/ada0p4". After I've installed a VPS in this way, I run the freebsd-update fetch command and it freezes at: Applying patches... I've been trying to diagnose the problem by running top and watching what happens during this stage. I noticed the following: 1) the box runs out of physical memory at this stage (totally expected, that's why there is sufficient swap space). 2) All the processes except 2 sleep: 31 processes: 1 running, 29 sleeping, 1 waiting 3) the box is responsive to hitting enter at the console (it produces another login: prompt) 4) sshd is asleep, so I can't ssh into the box 5) if I try to login to the console, it lets me enter a username then locks up totally, it does not present me with a password: prompt. 6) it has not run out of swap, nowhere close: Mem: 54M Active, 9524K Inact, 41M Wired, 24K Cache, 21M Buf, 32K Free Swap: 384M Total, 6452K Used, 378M Free, 1% Inuse 7) the moment it runs out of physical memory it begins being unresponsive Any idea what might be going on here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 14:22:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585C0106566C for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@devel.njit.edu) Received: from mail-gw5.njit.edu (mail-gw5.njit.edu [128.235.251.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0473B8FC08 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.maestro.njit.edu (dhcp114-27.njit.edu [128.235.114.27]) by mail-gw5.njit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5RDb5Dj016217 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:37:00 -0400 From: Tim Kellers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:22:06 -0000 I'm upgrading a 7.3 -STABLE installation to 8.x, then 9- Stable over the next few days. The hardware is a Dell 2950 that is capable of running 64 bit FreeBSD. The original installation was i386 32 bit and that is what it is running now. Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this machine to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from source. Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) on a remote install/upgrade? Tim Kellers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 14:25:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB22A106566B for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C426B8FC19 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SjtBQ-0001cJ-FU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:25:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1340807128473-5722483.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <201206261713.21233.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201206261713.21233.lumiwa@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: llvm/clang 3.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:25:29 -0000 If you really want/need clang 3.1 you should be tracking 9-STABLE, source branch not RELEASE. Port system is separate from base system, and installs things only in /usr/local/*. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/llvm-clang-3-1-tp5722315p5722483.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 14:25:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AFA106566C for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB2F8FC08 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so2015017obb.13 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yT0yzKBLI8mn9wfwrxENDsD5PPak78wv3Gk7lAdFRK0=; b=wVz1VY1kyNVQHTS14zY9r4szH110mk+SfHdkv/RHa3qSv6TZ3BBImXO2RVN0pUsH5e jY7veqCrDDDqRlgABpfyLYa/FCwmXs9w66LbpdwrbqVDb4CrPi/FGR3TrB8zG1fxYdXp 6v6zKm4adiSxyP3lzGpoAh9s420UGCO8XBtQM6beT7dhCzyzhotz2BeBtbE5LP1P+ru6 X8cJq8fiEuhDxHt58EoZY7ugs4lUwtI6U9/m5kokU09huOsldMp1GXNQhYdXMWFoqdQC 6YJmpgvJGB2TyxYGJ+bY6WoA7a4jLEPT/H1uDJ6yblsdasYzc5GceAu7hTOjAM7H82ZE umLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.110.10 with SMTP id hw10mr20752680obb.61.1340807147091; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.143.104 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:25:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aleksandr Miroslav To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: shell scripting: grepping multiple patterns, logically ANDed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:25:48 -0000 hello, I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but here goes. I have the following in a shell script: #!/bin/sh if [ "$#" -eq "0" ]; then find /foo fi if [ "$#" -eq "1" ]; then find /foo | grep -i $1 fi if [ "$#" -eq "2" ]; then find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 fi if [ "$#" -eq "3" ]; then find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 | grep -i $3 fi Is there an easier/shorter way to do this? If there are 15 arguments supplied on the command line, I don't necessarily want to build 15 if statements. Thanks in advance for your answers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 14:30:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7481310656DD for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5268FC19 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SjtGM-00029l-Vx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:30:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:30:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1340807434981-5722485.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:30:35 -0000 It has been done, it's just rally not recommended. Sorry, don't know what was exact procedure/ if it works currently. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/32-bit-to-64-bit-tp5722481p5722485.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 14:37:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB8B1065675 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76FF8FC15 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5REbLAF090623; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:37:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4FEB1A8C.7020009@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:37:00 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Kellers References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> In-Reply-To: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:37:25 -0000 On 6/27/2012 9:37 AM, Tim Kellers wrote: > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit > installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this machine > to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from > source. Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) > on a remote install/upgrade? I have seen posts of people who have done it, but when we contemplated it a while back it was more trouble than it was worth. It was easier and safer to build a new image on a separate disk, install all the apps from the ports, and then migrate the customer data over. Even if the box is remote, it might be easier to ship the drive there and have someone change it out for you. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 14:39:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CBA1065676 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB438FC1D for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so953832wer.13 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:39:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=YzJTiI88JsQFwE5LyJb0zchcdklyiudJ4e/xt8vqX74=; b=LvNDg6PKoenKaEQQ3lkH1+nwnFa2qg+ptSq+F8ZCeh+YnuKFeVw5T93sRCug4u9eBq Mu2NO5oK89p1nBEFxpYBbDWHnlXzrquXfM4PvrEOasMaO2ghmQsO4oXWO9fApZqZHmqj MKHP2F9+uD+QK0Dk01hQInIONydsrOqZupBEEW+4BklejoBOAkl+qFyULaX7P5Bo1GKY Dgy/sM9xJB4hALhtPkT4Xy2xGfDQbSV4uvbAlrADHjNgYRludd/h3yNDfFvTSIMlkeeQ kwE/qkhPUJT9aHZgfadr9UiNM7v0N1IiRZ02JwusPJF+vonSQf5Cqo3WtBFHedd+8hyp TWGw== Received: by 10.180.82.198 with SMTP id k6mr5253632wiy.20.1340807948460; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:39:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.75.151 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:38:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:38:28 +0300 Message-ID: To: Tim Kellers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:39:10 -0000 On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Tim Kellers wrote: > I'm upgrading a 7.3 -STABLE installation to 8.x, then 9- Stable over the > next few days. The hardware is a Dell 2950 that is capable of running 64 > bit FreeBSD. The original installation was i386 32 bit and that is what it > is running now. > > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit > installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this machine to > 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from > source. Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) on > a remote install/upgrade? > > Please just don't do it. Backup, Install new, restore configs and data! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 15:33:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381DD106564A for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D5C8FC0A for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.219.131.188] ([66.175.245.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5RFXahj091156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:33:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FEB27DA.1090308@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:33:46 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tundra@tundraware.com References: <4FEB25E8.6000701@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4FEB25E8.6000701@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:33:37 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q5RFXahj091156 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Aleksandr Miroslav Subject: Re: shell scripting: grepping multiple patterns, logically ANDed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:33:46 -0000 On 06/27/2012 10:25 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 06/27/2012 09:25 AM, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: >> hello, >> >> I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but here >> goes. >> >> I have the following in a shell script: >> >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> if [ "$#" -eq "0" ]; then >> find /foo >> fi >> if [ "$#" -eq "1" ]; then >> find /foo | grep -i $1 >> fi >> if [ "$#" -eq "2" ]; then >> find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 >> fi >> if [ "$#" -eq "3" ]; then >> find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 | grep -i $3 >> fi >> >> Is there an easier/shorter way to do this? If there are 15 arguments >> supplied on the command line, I don't necessarily want to build 15 if >> statements. >> >> Thanks in advance for your answers. > > The following solution relies on the fact that you can include multiple > patterns for grep to match with the '-e' argument: > > > #!/bin/sh > > PATTERNS=`echo " $*" | sed s/\ /\ -e\ /g` > > find /foo | grep $PATTERNS > > Notice that when constructing the $PATTERNS string out of the command line > args, you have to quote them with a prepended space character. That's because > the subsequent 'sed' substitution needs to find a space *before* each argument > which it then replaces with "-e ". > Whoops, I just realized that I ORed them and you want them ANDed. Hmmm ... must go think on that... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 15:40:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A61106566B for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CBF8FC12 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.219.131.188] ([66.175.245.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5RFPJC6091035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:25:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FEB25E8.6000701@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:25:28 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aleksandr Miroslav References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:25:20 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q5RFPJC6091035 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell scripting: grepping multiple patterns, logically ANDed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:40:05 -0000 On 06/27/2012 09:25 AM, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but here > goes. > > I have the following in a shell script: > > > #!/bin/sh > > if [ "$#" -eq "0" ]; then > find /foo > fi > if [ "$#" -eq "1" ]; then > find /foo | grep -i $1 > fi > if [ "$#" -eq "2" ]; then > find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 > fi > if [ "$#" -eq "3" ]; then > find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 | grep -i $3 > fi > > Is there an easier/shorter way to do this? If there are 15 arguments > supplied on the command line, I don't necessarily want to build 15 if > statements. > > Thanks in advance for your answers. The following solution relies on the fact that you can include multiple patterns for grep to match with the '-e' argument: #!/bin/sh PATTERNS=`echo " $*" | sed s/\ /\ -e\ /g` find /foo | grep $PATTERNS Notice that when constructing the $PATTERNS string out of the command line args, you have to quote them with a prepended space character. That's because the subsequent 'sed' substitution needs to find a space *before* each argument which it then replaces with "-e ". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 16:11:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C3A1065674 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6988FC1B for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.219.131.188] ([66.175.245.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5RGB36r092145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:11:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4FEB30A0.4020306@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:11:12 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4FEB25E8.6000701@tundraware.com> <4FEB27DA.1090308@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4FEB27DA.1090308@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:11:03 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: q5RGB36r092145 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Aleksandr Miroslav Subject: Re: shell scripting: grepping multiple patterns, logically ANDed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:11:12 -0000 On 06/27/2012 10:33 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 06/27/2012 10:25 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> On 06/27/2012 09:25 AM, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: >>> hello, >>> >>> I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but here >>> goes. >>> >>> I have the following in a shell script: >>> >>> >>> #!/bin/sh >>> >>> if [ "$#" -eq "0" ]; then >>> find /foo >>> fi >>> if [ "$#" -eq "1" ]; then >>> find /foo | grep -i $1 >>> fi >>> if [ "$#" -eq "2" ]; then >>> find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 >>> fi >>> if [ "$#" -eq "3" ]; then >>> find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 | grep -i $3 >>> fi >>> >>> Is there an easier/shorter way to do this? If there are 15 arguments >>> supplied on the command line, I don't necessarily want to build 15 if >>> statements. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your answers. >> >> The following solution relies on the fact that you can include multiple >> patterns for grep to match with the '-e' argument: >> >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> PATTERNS=`echo " $*" | sed s/\ /\ -e\ /g` >> >> find /foo | grep $PATTERNS >> >> Notice that when constructing the $PATTERNS string out of the command line >> args, you have to quote them with a prepended space character. That's because >> the subsequent 'sed' substitution needs to find a space *before* each argument >> which it then replaces with "-e ". >> > > Whoops, I just realized that I ORed them and you want them ANDed. Hmmm ... must > go think on that... OK, here is an ANDing version: #!/bin/sh PATMATCH=`echo " $*" | sed s/' '/' | grep '/g` eval "find ./ $PATMATCH" -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 16:25:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAC5106564A for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (mail.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A44A8FC0C for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10182 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jun 2012 16:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.172.123.228?) (bmettee@pchotshots.com@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with ESMTPA; 27 Jun 2012 16:18:45 -0000 Message-ID: <4FEB325B.5010802@pchotshots.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:18:35 -0400 From: Brad Mettee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aleksandr Miroslav References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell scripting: grepping multiple patterns, logically ANDed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:25:26 -0000 On 6/27/2012 11:25 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 06/27/2012 09:25 AM, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: >> hello, >> >> I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but here >> goes. >> >> I have the following in a shell script: >> >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> if [ "$#" -eq "0" ]; then >> find /foo >> fi >> if [ "$#" -eq "1" ]; then >> find /foo | grep -i $1 >> fi >> if [ "$#" -eq "2" ]; then >> find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 >> fi >> if [ "$#" -eq "3" ]; then >> find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 | grep -i $3 >> fi >> >> Is there an easier/shorter way to do this? If there are 15 arguments >> supplied on the command line, I don't necessarily want to build 15 if >> statements. >> >> Thanks in advance for your answers. > > The following solution relies on the fact that you can include multiple > patterns for grep to match with the '-e' argument: > > > #!/bin/sh > > PATTERNS=`echo " $*" | sed s/\ /\ -e\ /g` > > find /foo | grep $PATTERNS > > Notice that when constructing the $PATTERNS string out of the command > line > args, you have to quote them with a prepended space character. That's > because > the subsequent 'sed' substitution needs to find a space *before* each > argument > which it then replaces with "-e ". This will build a multi-grep string for any number of arguments (within reason), functionally a boolean AND search: #!/bin/sh final_cmd="find /foo" while [ $# -gt 0 ] do final_cmd="$final_cmd | grep -i $1" shift done $final_cmd May need quoting changes, but it worked on this sample, with this result: cmdline: ./testshift "1" 1 2 3 4 5 result: "find /foo | grep -i 1 | grep -i 1 | grep -i 2 | grep -i 3 | grep -i 4 | grep -i 5" HTH Brad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 17:08:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB48D106566C for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931FB8FC16 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so1357618ghb.13 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bbpILdZl0HmiW4AhQW5t4DuBPNEce30Wcv3M2EUnBBA=; b=lHZBxyPaki5qYaAVUtLMC629SBsS1nI24D7Bnl7JSPPAnmqSnWLgkruZu3Z3DybUf/ 4sm9WZPYGcC3cYJEw5zGccJ7hxfgXMqehKF6GhDWaJeoO+fYS+qrJBn8r5rXaCSu4N6l L406lYxZLZuUWpzRMEHOfpQoGKyMOPXOXr6WuOFuwBBpGL7VuDYA8CvVtpRj2/J43M3X g5zIP3+EcO+mLgtr8KRaqEPBmyhS7YLvZjLq1spnq7HudAiPzQVmP1Vq8nUTbq00s1sX JjBT5DZ9l8hHdeJ3F8NM+6y6+aMaxFQ1JCdj98YUklb1xhXdL2gKTzict/eU/RyhjOXd TmLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.22.201 with SMTP id g9mr21347468oef.8.1340816875263; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.10.34 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:07:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:07:55 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: H7mSz14s6k2zLvif_A3MXGF4e1Y Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: sysinstall diskPartitionEditor Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:08:01 -0000 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Rick Miller wr= ote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to set the offset/starting cylinder in install.cfg so that > partitions begin on appropriate boundaries. =A0The applicable section of > install.cfg looks like the following. =A0My assumption is that I need to > make the changes in the "partition" section. =A0Is this correct? =A0Is th= e > format of this value the same as a typical fdisk config file? After copious amounts of reading and experimenting. It seems as though diskPartitionEdit doesn't support specifying a starting cylinder. When I specify partition=3Dall, it starts that slice at sector 63. I'd like to start it at 64 or above. Is it feasible to include gpart in the mfsroot and use that to partition the drive before sysinstall continues with the installation? --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 17:33:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDB4106566B for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BFF8FC14 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Jun 2012 13:33:04 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BOG21563; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:33:04 -0400 Received: from 209-6-86-84.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.86.84]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Jun 2012 13:33:04 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20459.17359.830299.647106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:33:03 -0400 To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Tim Kellers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:33:11 -0000 Odhiambo Washington writes: > > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit > > installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this > > machine to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if > > I can do it from source. Has anyone tried this and succeeded > > (or failed spectacularly) on a remote install/upgrade? > > Please just don't do it. > > Backup, Install new, restore configs and data! I'd go even further: 1) replace the old disk, and jumper it to "read-only". 2) install 64-bit system on new disk. (use the opportunity to adjust partition size/layout) 3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed. 4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a year. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 17:48:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3B3106566C for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A988FC16 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5RHhF5a055334; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:43:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20120627124017.05730608@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:43:03 -0500 To: Tim Kellers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120627-0, 06/27/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q5RHhF5a055334 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:48:25 -0000 At 08:37 AM 6/27/2012, Tim Kellers wrote: >I'm upgrading a 7.3 -STABLE installation to 8.x, then 9- Stable over the >next few days. The hardware is a Dell 2950 that is capable of running 64 >bit FreeBSD. The original installation was i386 32 bit and that is what >it is running now. > >Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit >installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this machine >to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from >source. Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) on >a remote install/upgrade? > >Tim Kellers The 2950's are a bit dated, so unless you have in excess of 4GB RAM, you don't need to move to 64-bit. If you do choose to go 64-bit, I agree with the other posts, simply do a fresh install. In doing a fresh install, save off the package list you have on the i386 build and reinstall those packages on the new 64-bit system. Doing a fresh install will also save you time, since you can go right to 9, rather than doing two upgrades. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 21:56:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279281065670 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4B28FC14 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5RLtpUd003824; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:55:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5RLtopC003821; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:55:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:55:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Tim Kellers In-Reply-To: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> Message-ID: References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:55:51 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:00 -0000 > > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit > installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this machine to TARGET=amd64 > 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from source. > Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) on a remote > install/upgrade? > > Tim Kellers > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 21:56:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4C2106564A for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768C38FC0A for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5RLuGnq003830; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5RLuF9e003827; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:16 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Tim Kellers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:25 -0000 >> >> > Please just don't do it. > > Backup, Install new, restore configs and data! ???? i see no problems doing this! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 21:56:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151371065892 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795FF8FC08 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5RLueDo003836; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5RLueCw003833; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <20459.17359.830299.647106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> <20459.17359.830299.647106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:56:41 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Odhiambo Washington , Tim Kellers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:56:49 -0000 > adjust partition size/layout) > 3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed. > 4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a > year. ten years! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 22:43:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5D5106566C for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.224.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5480B8FC0A for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5RMh18E028253; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:43:02 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 05:42:59 +0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/10.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.8.3; amd64; ; ) References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> <20459.17359.830299.647106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20459.17359.830299.647106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206280542.59990.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Odhiambo Washington , Robert Huff , Tim Kellers Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:43:06 -0000 Hi, On Thursday 28 June 2012 00:33:03 Robert Huff wrote: > > Odhiambo Washington writes: > > > > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit > > > installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this > > > machine to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if > > > I can do it from source. Has anyone tried this and succeeded > > > (or failed spectacularly) on a remote install/upgrade? > > > > Please just don't do it. > > > > Backup, Install new, restore configs and data! > > I'd go even further: > > 1) replace the old disk, and jumper it to "read-only". > 2) install 64-bit system on new disk. (use the opportunity to > adjust partition size/layout) > 3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed. > 4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a > year. to learn then that cosnumer grade disk do not start anymore after a one year break? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 08:49:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52423106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreev.peter@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201D88FC14 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadv36 with SMTP id v36so2811694dad.13 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qfha7ub9ty/kdAW7XAFVmd5e84B/AJ8eLsxisXG7EUg=; b=wP0FSycLg38s6B1FaeBbTft65iZ6jW0LgDLibFrbeP0ToLZi/0wFSXLTO5dRpEnTtz YIukZpoIgtNBdViKj7btjjHygKlzqkKb+3q2xa0FaSFlgcMeXUaXO3U3EYyTuKZK98vr otePwUU5+L6mkOPEyCKk4J1YyOS9WJ2J/MmnKTQdrARHv+zw4Kry0c0LKfGcHoA83Cdt D4t6+1M+aBmJ70/O8qY6cSCO7ARIFHEXyklz3pcPqohYikWNGSbWmc/uR+Yy2SfCOeBO dyhSjyUM8MQ4f27G/TLkPo1YCGgBPAsA1w0PnrwsL81z+SKRi8jAXFAgwDEBSg0Gy7xf W7Lg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.235.68 with SMTP id uk4mr5277406pbc.52.1340873349881; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.132.194 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:49:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206280542.59990.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> <20459.17359.830299.647106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <201206280542.59990.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:49:09 +0400 Message-ID: From: Peter Andreev To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Odhiambo Washington , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tim Kellers Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:49:10 -0000 Hi, here is the step-by-step how to migrate between architectures: http://dadv.livejournal.com/143243.html It's in russian, but you could use google translate. Of course all such docs provided without any warranties. 2012/6/28 Erich Dollansky > Hi, > > On Thursday 28 June 2012 00:33:03 Robert Huff wrote: > > > > Odhiambo Washington writes: > > > > > > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit > > > > installation to build a 64 bit kernel? I'd like to upgrade this > > > > machine to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if > > > > I can do it from source. Has anyone tried this and succeeded > > > > (or failed spectacularly) on a remote install/upgrade? > > > > > > Please just don't do it. > > > > > > Backup, Install new, restore configs and data! > > > > I'd go even further: > > > > 1) replace the old disk, and jumper it to "read-only". > > 2) install 64-bit system on new disk. (use the opportunity to > > adjust partition size/layout) > > 3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed. > > 4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a > > year. > > to learn then that cosnumer grade disk do not start anymore after a one > year break? > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- AP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 10:16:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A2A1065673 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417848FC17 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5SAG9n5002344; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:16:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5SAG96m002341; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:16:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:16:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <201206280542.59990.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Message-ID: References: <4FEB0C7C.9080104@devel.njit.edu> <20459.17359.830299.647106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <201206280542.59990.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:16:10 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Odhiambo Washington , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tim Kellers Subject: Re: 32 bit to 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:16:18 -0000 >> 4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a >> year. > > to learn then that cosnumer grade disk do not start anymore after a one year break? just as "enterprise" disks, which are usually the same :) PS. Off Topic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 10:24:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1464A106566B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqbal@aroussi.name) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AF18FC12 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so3722119obb.13 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:24:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aroussi.name; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=XnhKQI2wBnEZcU6stCqvk0mU/+ppIicb1BoXjz4Urh8=; b=SR4smeho/szpSEWYrwmha2Ud+FxJ0Q8qHfRqIH5wGXEuMX9siqSw7V6Fp/D2J4LL4j CL8hqm1Z54rKL1YvX1GNuNTJHilYdbrSOzpnAxXzVZvLj+70Ckwi8ns645VC4o2V2oTf 6GSOx8eapj2zeuWv7nj/JgXZwzNhO28nyROQo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=XnhKQI2wBnEZcU6stCqvk0mU/+ppIicb1BoXjz4Urh8=; b=bmzaVTN7I+OKARd4rEk0X14SK37HUTby2PHnRdcQLmON4tAg8ZiHxMzzEv2PKb7SBV 4u65tLEMQqfzlhkwvL+DQj6/GM7cVK7WwagsRMYTmHu9a6DgIj4fk90BFqYjNUa9K34u op0FJgj6sF/x+M0fuTce4VS5yaS5fKdKNmLDL/rviYhzAICLv5KUlajuiIVMiXwj/FwV GhKL5QqDtPqC251YWex4mgSUD7TCyFDGz/F4Pg4EVWUTP9lwld080ir8N6tOuvsq735k dUgZYaGSUwrxHEsZJHdAc1hSiz2nd515yUZVFEPTtA1ObxUovAlHvAQIaefQAjNJDjIu WE8A== Received: by 10.60.1.40 with SMTP id 8mr1398316oej.70.1340879054102; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:24:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.57.39 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:23:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Iqbal Aroussi Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:23:53 +0000 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQncepDS4KFrhyIUfDO28TFQPG0e5FAQmVy0l/oEAwVwDRiwo6GSwlZxn+fxSfQCyUOJXjvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Percona55-server failing to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:24:15 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to install Percona Server but it's failign to compile. I've tried on FreeBSD 9 and FreeBSD 8.2 with no luck. Has anyone succeeded in making it work ?? It's the first package I try to install after a base OS install. There is no other MySQL server running or installed. The install process was working fine just few weeks ago. Here is what I do: portmaster databases/percona55-server Here is what I get: ===>>> Installation of devel/cmake (cmake-2.8.8) succeeded ===>>> Returning to dependency check for databases/percona55-server ===>>> Dependency check complete for databases/percona55-server ===> Cleaning for percona-server-5.5.19.24.0 ===> percona-server-5.5.19.24.0 cannot install: unknown MySQL version: 55p. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/percona55-server. ===>>> make failed for databases/percona55-server ===>>> Aborting update Terminated ===>>> Installation of devel/cmake (cmake-2.8.8) complete ===>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command line: portmaster databases/percona55-server Thanks a lot in advance. Best Regards Iqbal A. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 10:40:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BC41065672 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044CA8FC0A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5SAeAw3026298; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:40:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:40:10 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20120628181722.R46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20120621083945.E87771065694@hub.freebsd.org> <20120622153224.I46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20120625152340.X46641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: OT: Robotics or embedded or hardware programming... what is this called? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:40:06 -0000 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:43:35 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:47:48 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > > > Well, there is devel/arduino. It's not emdedded Linux, but an IDE for > > > writing and downloading code. The Arduino is a small embedded controller > > > based on the Atmel AVR microcontrollers. They are quite powerful, easy to > > > program, and accessible for experimenters. You can skip the Arduino > > > environment if you like, using the same lower-level tools like avr-gcc > > > directly. And the Arduino board can be used as a programmer, downloading > > > code to plain AVR chips and avoiding the need for more Arduino boards. Talk > > > about the Arduino on FreeBSD is generally on the freebsd-embedded mailing > > > list. > > > > Thanks Warren. I got the wrong idea that Arduino ran an embedded Linux > > from a friend, a Linux-using Electrical Engineer, but not a programmer. > > I'd also (too) briefly glanced at www.arduino.cc and noted Windows, Mac > > and Linux references, and Linux binaries, but had no idea you had ported > > the GUI. Could you perhaps try pushing the FreeBSD port upstream to > > Arduino, so people can find out that it exists from there? > > There was an updated entry mentioning the port in the Playground, which now > seems to have reverted back to the old not-yet-working procedure for FreeBSD > 6.1. And I see that 1.0.1 is out, so now the port needs to be updated. > There doesn't appear to be a way for me to edit that. I can send mail to the > site about mentioning the FreeBSD port on the downloads page. Or you can, if > you like. MAMBM .. I'd promised myself I wouldn't spend any more time on this :) That wiki is fairly messed up, but its search helps a bit; searching for 'FreeBSD' (ie googling 'FreeBSD site:http://arduino.cc/playground') turns up more than is indexed from the sidebar, including some pages not apparently accessible otherwise. It really needs the main index editing (as well as http://arduino.cc/playground/Learning/FreeBSD) to point to (say) 'Installing Arduino on other platforms' after the Linux one, but it'd be a bit of work. Yes, even just a link in the Downloads section would help, but making FreeBSD support more obvious sure wouldn't hurt. > Something I forgot to mention earlier is that it may now be possible to buy > Arduinos or compatibles at Radio Shack stores in the US. Yes they're definitely getting out there. Tandy / RS abandoned the kit market here, but Jaycar (2011 cat) has Uno-compatible boards for $40 and a Duemilanove-compatible with onboard Ethernet 'shield' for $70. Hmm. Despite indexing FreeBSD under Linux(!), anybody interested in embedded monitoring, control and/or robotics with Arduino or Atmel uCs in general should find something of interest in 'The World Famous Index of Arduino & Freeduino Knowledge' at http://www.freeduino.org/ sucked in, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 10:41:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69FD106568B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C11F8FC0A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5SAfD5R089476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:41:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q5SAfD5R089476 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q5SAfD5R089476; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FEC34C0.80500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:41:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Iqbal Aroussi References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig830A44231F98A4529EAC6390" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Percona55-server failing to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:41:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig830A44231F98A4529EAC6390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28/06/2012 11:23, Iqbal Aroussi wrote: > =3D=3D=3D> percona-server-5.5.19.24.0 cannot install: unknown MySQL ve= rsion: 55p. > *** Error code 1 >=20 It seems that the percona55-client and percona55-server ports are still a work in progress. They aren't properly hooked up to the ports tree yet, and there need to be some modifications to ${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.database.mk before it is going to work. See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dports/164072 for the story so far. Unfortunately all I can suggest at the moment is to use mysql55-server or mariadb-server[*] temporarily until the percona ports get sorted out. Cheers, Matthew [*] Which is equivalent to the unreleased mysql53 rather than mysql55. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig830A44231F98A4529EAC6390 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/sNMkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxzqgCeNXYWwIRPEyj0F/7Ww6iyWNTC XuUAnj6AWsbbbPXYed+KEXlKUQpL8j/b =uVGW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig830A44231F98A4529EAC6390-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 10:54:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82A11065672 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqbal@aroussi.name) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B9E8FC17 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so1678625wib.13 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:54:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aroussi.name; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=+ej3sXKkjl2UaE2FEWh/JkqcMifTl2EIieLnKe87yPU=; b=Wk8OfnkldVeJUNYQqfQRCJlsgXAO5DABmWh1x9hs8UYXefXoUFrcgX07K5LGNRyl0p Q0X0xhVHlrAkoT3i/4lxjI0dx5+9t4GBfiedHtrftkUVUGQF3B22AZxUBm0giVNYABHQ 341p62BII4r+AOg36sw/JzzirDsd2b/M0feVw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=+ej3sXKkjl2UaE2FEWh/JkqcMifTl2EIieLnKe87yPU=; b=Qm4Q3aAZNu5uVp9NlKz0fbjsptRSt8BOJOjGVLdGSd6QsL/4a9Y8R978k72KKPHUVj Jul/MOpKVMlK7eDk1ZX6FQIpIk/lcaBAnwiAkVEHEj9JkD5xc+FszyoDUmYse0lcjdVo +Rt3riElHpL964wmx+FhwmjzsCHtjzi087BXtiPeguF3AQrLhxm7oo7fFpuY6gb5eYHj CDE29Uh19lemLBjaGF8VsMNkL2pYqoaPy7ztDRtBWy072hruuYQpCYGFhZkrprYbvE0x EOwV2tZexJycQC1KFTXYWWZohHGTGO2jGHsNHPxE9pWcvBi983yV3ndBbIP0G6KKKNRX s7/A== Received: by 10.216.145.13 with SMTP id o13mr850767wej.95.1340880847606; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:54:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.208.6 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:53:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FEC34C0.80500@FreeBSD.org> References: <4FEC34C0.80500@FreeBSD.org> From: Iqbal Aroussi Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:53:45 +0000 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn/7ZMmOjmPXA1ByccWs3PUUyY7e78tS0FkI1DJBg1qqsbnuitfF/ehHMJPvkwfXMxUMOon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Percona55-server failing to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:54:18 -0000 Hi Matthew, Thanks a lot for the useful explanation you provided. I really appreciated it. I'm gonna try MariaDB. Best Regards Iqbal A. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 28/06/2012 11:23, Iqbal Aroussi wrote: > > ===> percona-server-5.5.19.24.0 cannot install: unknown MySQL version: > 55p. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > It seems that the percona55-client and percona55-server ports are still > a work in progress. They aren't properly hooked up to the ports tree > yet, and there need to be some modifications to > ${PORTSDIR}/Mk/bsd.database.mk before it is going to work. > > See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/164072 for the > story so far. > > Unfortunately all I can suggest at the moment is to use mysql55-server > or mariadb-server[*] temporarily until the percona ports get sorted out. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] Which is equivalent to the unreleased mysql53 rather than mysql55. > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 13:03:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37821065688 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shareplan=eurostudio.fr@mta0.sbr08.net) Received: from mta0.sbr08.net (mta0.sbr08.net [91.121.154.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A5E8FC28 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sbr08.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mta0.sbr08.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD4517C7C5F for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:03:50 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbr08.net; s=mta0; t=1340888631; i=@sbr08.net; bh=prQ95pZwQfIrrbHH2BSypbeXrV84+/D0dAtaYHc6w3Y=; h=Date:From:Sender:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:List-Unsubscribe; b=M8tp3dBTKCJQrtmXet4T+17T75+tEu+rVMLoAPqqet8p9ZNbkrWr2N0PatShNv9pe lousAxrEXgWk+dgmaA0AvS+MZVA8fiXUzh/Qp142K7+QaMxxqN9Wpl8Fti2euBCzra pY/n3WtTCK3CwSx3d6ZXMBEAeIfnZGT4g+3gbHZQ= Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:52:42 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?GAMME_AUTODESK_2013?= Sender: shareplan=eurostudio.fr@mta0.sbr08.net To: =?utf-8?Q?_?= Message-ID: <784-216-7-0000021911@mta0.sbr08.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_17554_1423090549.1340888627004" Precedence: bulk X-virtual-MTA: mta0 X-Mailer: Professional Routing Service X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?q?Maison_de_l=27Architecture_4_juillet_=3A_les_nouveaut?= =?utf-8?q?=C3=A9s_AUTODESK_2013?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?Eurostudio_sp=C3=A9cialiste_CAO_Architecture?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:03:57 -0000 ------=_Part_17554_1423090549.1340888627004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Les nouvelles versions des solutions Autodesk d=C3=A9di=C3=A9es aux m=C3=A9= tiers de la Construction sont disponibles ! 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After I upgraded to 9-STABLE r237458 it does not work any more. Were there any significant changes in 9-STABLE that broke it? Here is more detailed info: http://freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D169459 Regards, vermaden --=20 ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 15:10:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19BC106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7708FC08 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5SFA3DK062302; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:10:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4FEC73B4.1090005@sentex.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:09:40 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vermaden References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umodem/ppp/3g stopped working after update from 9.0-RELEASE to 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:10:04 -0000 On 6/28/2012 1:54 AM, vermaden wrote: > Hi, > > at the 9.0-RELEASE I have had fully working ppp/3g connection via the > Dell 5530 modem in my Dell Latitude E6400 laptop. After I upgraded > to 9-STABLE r237458 it does not work any more. > > Were there any significant changes in 9-STABLE that broke it? Did it perhaps create more serial ports for you that were not there before ? What is the output of ls -l /dev/cuaU* ---Mike > > Here is more detailed info: > http://freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169459 > > Regards, > vermaden -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 18:46:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700C41065673 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jau@iki.fi) Received: from jau.iki.fi (ip193-64-26-117.cust.eunet.fi [193.64.26.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E128FC0A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.131] (sleipnir.thunderbolt.fi [192.168.1.131]) by jau.iki.fi (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5SIkCwO077977 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:46:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from jau@iki.fi) Message-ID: <4FECA66F.3030602@iki.fi> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:46:07 +0300 From: "Jukka A. Ukkonen" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (jau.iki.fi [192.168.1.42]); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:46:19 +0300 (EEST) Cc: Subject: Wheel mouse oddity - wheel only reporting button release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:46:27 -0000 Hi, Does anyone have any idea what is going on when a ps/2 mouse with a wheel (actually a trackball) sometimes works just fine and sometimes the wheel reports button release events only? This is happening on an AMD64 system running FreeBSD-9.0. I used truss to trace moused to see how the basic 3 buttons always send "\t\0\0", "\n\0\0", or "\f\0\0" for button press and then "\b\0\0" for button release. The wheel only sends "\b\0\0" for button release. This looks awful lot like moused failed to talk to the device using level 1 or level 2 protocol, decided to fall back to level 0 protocol, and silently went on using 3 byte packets which cannot carry the data for more than 3 buttons. If this is the case and level 1 was explicitly requested, I would expect moused to complain loudly about not being able to use the requested protocol level. Has anyone else seen something similar? Can this behavior be changed using hint.psm.0.flags in /boot/device.hints? Could this be a side effect of a KVM switch getting confused and forcing the protocol to downgrade to level 0? Should I simply replace the KVM switch? --jau From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 18:58:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E61106566B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD178FC14 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.173] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SkJuu-0008Lr-Id; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:58:12 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5SIwBR2001192; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:58:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5SIwALx001191; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:58:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:58:10 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: vermaden Message-ID: <20120628185809.GA1107@tiny.Sisis.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.173 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umodem/ppp/3g stopped working after update from 9.0-RELEASE to 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:58:20 -0000 El día Thursday, June 28, 2012 a las 07:54:48AM +0200, vermaden escribió: > Hi, > > at the 9.0-RELEASE I have had fully working ppp/3g connection via the > Dell 5530 modem in my Dell Latitude E6400 laptop. After I upgraded > to 9-STABLE r237458 it does not work any more. > > Were there any significant changes in 9-STABLE that broke it? > > Here is more detailed info: > http://freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169459 I said this already: the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file you are using is completely broken and the log matches this; what should these AT cmds do in the section of 3g: 3g: set device /dev/cuaU0 set speed 38400 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR term AT+CFUN=1 AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","www.plusgsm.pl" ATD*99# matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 19:02:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134D106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8448FC14 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so2587158yen.13 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:02:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9urklgQR2li91bzololg7uQ/EyQeTKhb85fJ4ajJ4zc=; b=zmLHtIFBdL60HqDzx9NOnKNuHiDc1V6Ypv+DDqzUTtoYQIDYyeM9SjfG8wj6hVH9Id IiyUV7Ud6OsCrHQz34XG+gnWYt/PNLgv+e8KWVcJ6NSXD0KXZDM+6Rm1faD0x8V0ro7z Obo7fypvdDA1krIf1pZH3GcUlEXm7X5YQDyKDTXqAthhC3l6YU7KMOaSrmh0ySudSFeu FPNDVrshWFGhNcLkOs3YQ/ejBUNOfAALlKEWi3HOrIufew0CChlJbkqTsAmys49BH9iP jMUfzB9LQCgRIf2skuXbzVtc94m+JHmGQkdXf0KucEcNCVM60OfLn7kBjvo1orcQyO/w uKqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.126.1 with SMTP id gu1mr985804icc.6.1340910134456; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.51.5 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:02:14 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nsgvzIsZhRR-la74E2XFjX9-ZYg Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:02:15 -0000 Is there an equivalent dump/restore ap for a Linux ext4 file system? I am running the latest Slackware, and I would like to make backups like I do for my FreeBSD box. Thanks, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 19:59:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A11D106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2C98FC18 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk (vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk [10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5SJxv43005666 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:59:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4FECB7BD.6010807@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:59:57 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:59:59 -0000 We use dump to backup ext4 filesystems on linux (Centos6) at work >From the linux dump changelog Changes between versions 0.4b41 and 0.4b42 (released June 18, 2009) =================================================================== 18. Add (preliminary) ext4 support - thanks to libext2fs which does all the job for us. Thanks to Gertjan van Wingerde for the patch. Without wishing to bash Linux (I wouldnt be in my job without it,) its man pages are really not very up to date, as the manpage for dump fails to mention this. Centos 6 dump version is dump 0.4b42 (using libext2fs 1.41.12 of 17-May-2010) I havent used slackware in many years but it used to be my distro of choice until I moved to FreeBSD. Hope this helps, Vince On 28/06/2012 20:02, Chris Maness wrote: > Is there an equivalent dump/restore ap for a Linux ext4 file system? > I am running the latest Slackware, and I would like to make backups > like I do for my FreeBSD box. > > Thanks, > Chris Maness > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 20:07:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93A3106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blue.seahorse.syndicate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ECC8FC0A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so2212752vcb.13 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:07:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:date:to:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:organization:message-id:user-agent; bh=GLegPkZf7/QI0pButA9M3jGxa6L4It1RJSsSSUvc5MY=; b=0zgnK0OstHv2z19SEfdvm5C8bpaGX5CIRaGyLO/VbIX0ryhJ6UFgsoCaxL/D2Il0WQ waK3cNNbLncPZAUR3nfDK5srYTDEjLU/5ao3DUQ8Pn77RAtoc2bnvxp+3pnxcdSYvoZG ocEciY98kruiVfOiX5mhJdsP7OdHzt6lGv1Fenpjb4oiqmNa5mKkpeJ2aYR63HM6X4bU +v4Vlq4GQtJvidEq86H8gUng3L1aWmchOKs6G8+fXhkXDUEccmGxBqPQ4FZ3rdjnxvcl +2NFtXQskLNcyRkOD7FQ6Zf+MEiC1UuaOX4wD6d4OOya3Tu1J+M1uRMOgQtKNkVR7nRE bELw== Received: by 10.52.27.244 with SMTP id w20mr2225506vdg.67.1340914025535; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueleafone.quebecconnection (pool-72-73-91-167.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net. [72.73.91.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ej4sm327216vdb.0.2012.06.28.13.06.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:06:53 -0400 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lynn Steven Killingsworth Organization: Blue Seahorse Syndicate Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.60 (FreeBSD) Subject: Cannot mount storage drive in workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:07:06 -0000 Dear FreeBSD - I have broken my ability to mount my storage drive in FreeBSD installation. I am still logged in as root since I have not installed the login manager yet to KDE4. I think I managed to set my discs to mount under my username by setting the group privilege (wheel) to read/write. Then I inadvertently shut off my display while my workstation was running. When I restarted it I could not get my system to display again. So I had to shutdown my machine. Then I rebooted a couple of times. However, I can no longer get my storage drive (not my system drive) to mount by selecting it in Dolphin when I start my workstation. This is the message from Dolphin "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: mount: /dev/ada1s1a: Operation not permitted" My familiarity is the online handbook presently. So can you tell me where to start? -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 20:37:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF45106566B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9408FC0C for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:37:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=7GrM2j5oBiGlgmSCfJiiSkFPHKgxt3KQf24RG9tBJDE=; b=PmgQLcTK0IHmzN4nP7GljUfaJ5vacuh6F7Vd6f1H2MhdpJFiDrcZspoycmkBlOXBkOiGvmJQ0yEhCOJMHC1dXaHo3SnqBcd3s00U5rErFshY3diEeheAQh/14Et6VxNn; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SkLTL-000L0g-AM; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:37:51 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1340915865-94480-94479/5/73; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:37:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:37:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Lynn Steven Killingsworth Subject: Re: Cannot mount storage drive in workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:37:53 -0000 On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:06:53 -0500, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: > > So can you tell me where to start? > Can you open up a terminal and check the output of "dmesg" ? It may indicate that you need to fsck the drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 20:39:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F72106566B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440668FC1C for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (c80-217-70-175.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.175]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5SKdkbN041137; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:39:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4FECC0B8.8090803@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:38:16 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120611 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lynn Steven Killingsworth References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Cannot mount storage drive in workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:39:49 -0000 2012-06-28 22:06, Lynn Steven Killingsworth skrev: > Dear FreeBSD - > > I have broken my ability to mount my storage drive in FreeBSD installation. > > I am still logged in as root since I have not installed the login > manager yet to KDE4. I think I managed to set my discs to mount under > my username by setting the group privilege (wheel) to read/write. > > Then I inadvertently shut off my display while my workstation was > running. When I restarted it I could not get my system to display > again. So I had to shutdown my machine. Then I rebooted a couple of > times. However, I can no longer get my storage drive (not my system > drive) to mount by selecting it in Dolphin when I start my workstation. > > This is the message from Dolphin > "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: mount: /dev/ada1s1a: > Operation not permitted" > > My familiarity is the online handbook presently. > > So can you tell me where to start? > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 20:42:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445E1106567F for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023C88FC18 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-5.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.5]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C203EDE3; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:42:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5SKgfwt003578; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:42:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:42:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lynn Steven Killingsworth Message-Id: <20120628224241.eb324fc9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Cannot mount storage drive in workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:42:49 -0000 On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:06:53 -0400, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: > Then I rebooted a couple of times. That doesn't provide _any_ help to the problem. :-) > This is the message from Dolphin > "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: mount: /dev/ada1s1a: > Operation not permitted" > > My familiarity is the online handbook presently. > > So can you tell me where to start? Check all permissions that are involved: To mount a device, the user who mounts must have +w access to the device and own the target directory. Check overriding options in /etc/devfs.conf and /dev/devd.conf. Also check the vfs.usermount sysctl variable. Finally, it would be good to check this first outside of the GUI, e. g. login as user and perform the mount command. At this occassion, check the content of /etc/fstab. If it fails, please provide a command line you tried together with the full error message for better diagnostics. Also ask yourself: Do you want the storage drive mounted all the time, from system start? In this case, adjust /etc/fstab accordingly. If not, make sure all the components that X involves are set up properly. I know this seems to be more confusing than all the system-level settings. Finally relapse to the Handbook again and check the results of all the steps described. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 21:04:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639D4106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A688FC08 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-5.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.5]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6180E3ED1C; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:04:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5SL4NX2003696; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:04:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:04:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Vincent Hoffman Message-Id: <20120628230423.a650e842.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4FECB7BD.6010807@unsane.co.uk> References: <4FECB7BD.6010807@unsane.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:04:25 -0000 On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:59:57 +0100, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > We use dump to backup ext4 filesystems on linux (Centos6) at work > > From the linux dump changelog > Changes between versions 0.4b41 and 0.4b42 (released June 18, 2009) > =================================================================== > 18. Add (preliminary) ext4 support - thanks to libext2fs which does > all the job for us. Thanks to Gertjan van Wingerde > for the patch. Without even trying to start a flamewar, allow me to ask this question: Do they _really_ use file systems "over there at Linux land" without having an up-to-date dump/restore mechanism for that file systems? I can hardly believe that... > Without wishing to bash Linux (I wouldnt be in my job without it,) its > man pages are really not very up to date, as the manpage for dump fails > to mention this. That's sadly normal. I found the attitude toward documentation in Linux being different from what you would call standard in the rest of UNIX world. Man pages are often out of date (if they ever exist), and pieces of documentation is scattered across the the web, in user pages, wikis, and discussion forums. The concept behind this seems to be: "Nobody reads man pages, so we don't write them." > I havent used slackware in many years but it used to be my distro of > choice until I moved to FreeBSD. Was my first PC Linux, too. :-) > On 28/06/2012 20:02, Chris Maness wrote: > > Is there an equivalent dump/restore ap for a Linux ext4 file system? > > I am running the latest Slackware, and I would like to make backups > > like I do for my FreeBSD box. Have you tried the original tools provided by the OS? Do they perform as intended? Maybe do some testing and see if they are sufficient for dealing with ext4. That would be my first impression: Use what's there and see if it works, as it _should_ work (given fundamental UNIX basics). (Sorry, my Linux knowledge is a bit outdated as I don't use it anymore on a regular basis.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 21:40:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CEC106564A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from nk11p99mm-asmtpout009.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtp999.mac.com [17.158.233.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D0E8FC0C for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [10.164.238.159] (mobile-166-147-092-102.mycingular.net [166.147.92.102]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp999.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M6C00542HEHQD60@nk11p03mm-asmtp999.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:40:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-28_05:2012-06-28, 2012-06-28, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1206280237 References: <4FECB7BD.6010807@unsane.co.uk> In-reply-to: <4FECB7BD.6010807@unsane.co.uk> Message-id: <8CC9EB42-E6B0-4443-B9C5-A031427D0BB7@mac.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: "Peter A. Giessel" Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:39:54 -0800 To: Vincent Hoffman Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:40:15 -0000 On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:59, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > We use dump to backup ext4 filesystems on linux (Centos6) at work You can find a version of dump for Linux that supports ext4. What I have been completely unable to find is a linux boot disk that has a version of restore that supports ext4. If anyone knows of one, I would be very interested. I am very hesitant to use a backup scheme that doesn't have a clear recovery path. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 28 22:08:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3DD106566B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD8D8FC14 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk (vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk [10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5SM8AaX030884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:08:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4FECD5CA.108@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:08:10 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter A. Giessel" References: <4FECB7BD.6010807@unsane.co.uk> <8CC9EB42-E6B0-4443-B9C5-A031427D0BB7@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <8CC9EB42-E6B0-4443-B9C5-A031427D0BB7@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:08:12 -0000 On 28/06/2012 21:39, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:59, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > >> We use dump to backup ext4 filesystems on linux (Centos6) at work > You can find a version of dump for Linux that supports ext4. What I have been completely unable to find is a linux boot disk that has a version of restore that supports ext4. If anyone knows of one, I would be very interested. I am very hesitant to use a backup scheme that doesn't have a clear recovery path. Fair point. I've used the "rescue" mode on the centos boot CD before, but its not too hard to build a custom centos livecd. I made a pxe bootable version for use at work so we can ssh into it without needing an IP KVM, but I'll try and make a new ISO for you if you like. Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 04:41:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2FB106566C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B278FC12 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo305.cox.net ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120629044059.LSMA26743.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo305.cox.net> for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:40:59 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.76.239]) by eastrmimpo305.cox.net with bizsmtp id U4gy1j00D59mvxN024gzN6; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:40:59 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4FED31DB.0049,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=fSyK1E6sYbUtty9oUNQUrgsrWjUcgQQEDcSzjyRlRTI= c=1 sm=1 a=0-NC-wsuwNMA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=nJCg7m+klQzKrkQiY4doSw==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=k6uNhczgIOgKlsPbj2gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=nJCg7m+klQzKrkQiY4doSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from serene.no-ip.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5T4ewxd067265 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:40:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 23:40:53 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20120628234053.5e467406@serene.no-ip.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Messages not reaching the lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:41:06 -0000 Lately I've been noticing that almost without fail, any messages I send to the FreeBSD mailing lists never actually appear on the list. Just wondering if maybe my ISP (cox.net) has been flagged as a known spam source, or what? This is very strange! I'm still subscribed to all of the same lists I've been on for quite some time, and am receiving the lists' mail just fine. It's just my own messages that never show up here. We'll see if this one shows up. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 05:28:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875EE1065670 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5848FC0A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:28:33 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gf1CudfSVYh3XhyQAPGMwPFQ/4pzwPTMDeXC112K/mI= c=1 sm=0 a=q2t7bAFVVysA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=kLW0Gr3WAAAA:8 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=Fr8x0r-PAAAA:8 a=MmSfQHWXVgE6tVtPXAsA:9 a=Bpg2_ke_ZEUA:10 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=p91V9-deMQsA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:42422] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 52/6F-23439-46C3DEF4; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:25:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:25:56 -0400 Message-ID: <52.6F.23439.46C3DEF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: "Peter A. Giessel" , Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:28:34 -0000 On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:59, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > We use dump to backup ext4 filesystems on linux (Centos6) at work "Peter A. Giessel" responded: > You can find a version of dump for Linux that supports ext4. What I have been completely unable to find is a linux boot disk that has a version of restore that supports ext4. If anyone knows of one, I would be very interested. I am very hesitant to use a backup scheme that doesn't have a clear recovery path. I've used the System Rescue CD (sysresccd.org), which you can burn to CD or write to USB stick. I haven't checked all the features, so I don't know if it includes restore for ext4. Latest release version is 2.8.0 It ought to read/write ext4. I think it would read (BSD) ffs or ufs v1 but not v2. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 06:21:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F401065691 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6298FC15 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:02:17 +0200 From: vermaden To: guru@unixarea.de, mike@sentex.net X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: <20120628185809.GA1107@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120628185809.GA1107@tiny.Sisis.de> X-Originating-IP: 194.0.181.128 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1340949737; bh=q/8iiBwr66jyRT7Al5+pcSE+1DQxccI/SqlRfmu5Kag=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:References: X-Originating-IP:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ubp9KeD9hHn7x6j88Q+4+J2No/40zKQQYLA65GgIGMEZkno9FJ4O6Q5LOUSTTbGcN vrSIml5R0iD8mMlwsw9hjV3pZ3VO0CGze861NcPykBumagIkUAEO9qogS3BX3DtwSa dJuqKOrUTal1Yr/FRSw7b0ETVgkWh9hBgVwMUM0w= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umodem/ppp/3g stopped working after update from 9.0-RELEASE to 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:21:05 -0000 Hi, > Did it perhaps create more serial ports for you that were > not there before ? What is the output of ls -l /dev/cuaU* >=20 > ---Mike # ls -l /dev/cuaU* crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 155 2012.06.29 06:42 /dev/cuaU0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 156 2012.06.29 06:42 /dev/cuaU0.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 157 2012.06.29 06:42 /dev/cuaU0.lock crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 161 2012.06.29 07:55 /dev/cuaU1 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 162 2012.06.29 06:42 /dev/cuaU1.init crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 163 2012.06.29 06:42 /dev/cuaU1.lock I have tried both cuaU0 and cuaU1 but same result. > I said this already: the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file you are > using is completely broken and the log matches this; >=20 > what should these AT cmds do in the section of 3g: >=20 > 3g: > set device /dev/cuaU0 > set speed 38400 > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 > add default HISADDR > term > AT+CFUN=3D1 > AT+CGDCONT=3D1,"IP","www.plusgsm.pl" > ATD*99# >=20 > matthias I did not knew that its broken, I used the '3g' profile to connect, like that: # ppp -ddial 3g It worked very well without errors on 9.0-RELEASE and it stopped working after the update to the 9-STABLE, what is broken there? Regards, vermaden --=20 ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 06:44:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B131065670 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E0E8FC0C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5T6i155043078; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:44:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5T6i0Ej043063; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:44:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:44:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lynn Steven Killingsworth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:44:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Cannot mount storage drive in workstation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:44:11 -0000 >From time when i was still using linux i cannot remember a case that linux dump utilities actually worked. tar was usable, gnu tar can do SOMEWHAT like incremental backups too. On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: > Dear FreeBSD - > > I have broken my ability to mount my storage drive in FreeBSD installation. > > I am still logged in as root since I have not installed the login manager yet > to KDE4. I think I managed to set my discs to mount under my username by > setting the group privilege (wheel) to read/write. > > Then I inadvertently shut off my display while my workstation was running. > When I restarted it I could not get my system to display again. So I had to > shutdown my machine. Then I rebooted a couple of times. However, I can no > longer get my storage drive (not my system drive) to mount by selecting it in > Dolphin when I start my workstation. > > This is the message from Dolphin > "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: mount: /dev/ada1s1a: > Operation not permitted" > > My familiarity is the online handbook presently. > > So can you tell me where to start? > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 06:52:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8863B106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from nk11p99mm-asmtpout007.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtp997.mac.com [17.158.233.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695DF8FC0A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:52:43 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [192.168.0.146] (115-133-237-24.static.gci.net [24.237.133.115]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp997.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M6D00FIS6ZO41B0@nk11p03mm-asmtp997.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:52:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-29_02:2012-06-28, 2012-06-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1206280405 References: <52.6F.23439.46C3DEF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> In-reply-to: <52.6F.23439.46C3DEF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Message-id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: "Peter A. Giessel" Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:52:35 -0800 To: Thomas Mueller Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0000 > I haven't checked all the features, so I don't know if it includes restore for ext4. According to: http://www.sysresccd.org/Detailed-packages-list It does not contain any version of restore. There are a lot of Linux boot disks out there. I haven't found one yet that includes an ext4 compatible restore. Debian lets you roll your own, but you need to do that before a disaster. It doesn't include useful rescue CDs like FreeBSD does. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 07:30:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC2B1065670 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188698FC1B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.139.52] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SkVei-0005U8-11; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:30:16 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5T7UCgA001352; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:30:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id q5T7UBqr001351; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:30:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:30:10 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: vermaden Message-ID: <20120629073009.GA1321@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120628185809.GA1107@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.139.52 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mike@sentex.net Subject: Re: umodem/ppp/3g stopped working after update from 9.0-RELEASE to 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:30:21 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit El día Friday, June 29, 2012 a las 08:02:17AM +0200, vermaden escribió: > > I said this already: the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file you are > > using is completely broken and the log matches this; > > > > what should these AT cmds do in the section of 3g: > > > > 3g: > > set device /dev/cuaU0 > > set speed 38400 > > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 > > add default HISADDR > > term > > AT+CFUN=1 > > AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","www.plusgsm.pl" > > ATD*99# > > > > matthias > > I did not knew that its broken, I used the '3g' > profile to connect, like that: # ppp -ddial 3g > > It worked very well without errors on 9.0-RELEASE > and it stopped working after the update to the > 9-STABLE, what is broken there? I can't imagine that 9-STABLE delivers such a broken file (already because the "www.plusgsm.pl" entry in your file); I do not know how you did the update and if maybe this is the result of some kind of broken merging; I'm attaching the original file out of SVM (CURRENT) and mine which have a working entry 'umts'; try to rebuild from both a workin one by hand; matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ppp.conf" ################################################################# # PPP Sample Configuration File # Originally written by Toshiharu OHNO # Simplified 5/14/1999 by wself@cdrom.com # # See /usr/share/examples/ppp/ for some examples # # $FreeBSD: head/etc/ppp/ppp.conf 203943 2010-02-16 01:07:06Z jkim $ ################################################################# default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port # for your modem. (cuau0 = COM1, cuau1 = COM2) # set device /dev/cuau1 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 180 # 3 minute idle timer (the default) enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) papchap: # # edit the next three lines and replace the items in caps with # the values which have been assigned by your ISP. # set phone PHONE_NUM set authname USERNAME set authkey PASSWORD set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ppp.conf" # # $Id: ppp.conf,v 1.1 2011/11/20 06:07:03 guru Exp $ # # APN (AT+CGDCONT value): pinternet.interkom.de # # # default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command umts: set device /dev/cuaU0.0 # device name in CURRENT set speed 921600 # set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATZ OK \ AT+CFUN=1 OK \ AT+COPS=0 OK \ AT+CGDCONT=1,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"pinternet.interkom.de\\\" OK \ \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set logout "ABORT BUSY ABORT ERROR TIMEOUT 30 \"\" +++ATH O ATH OK" # NAT (not used by me) # nat enable yes # alias enable yes # nat port tcp 192.168.0.0:ftp ftp # nat port tcp 192.168.0.0:http http nat enable yes nat port udp 127.0.0.1:1024-1030 1024-1030 nat port tcp 127.0.0.1:22 22 set phone *99*1\# set authname "xxxxx" set authkey "xxxxx" set timeout 300 set ifaddr 10.64.64.64/0 10.64.64.64/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 # add default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route enable dns disable ipv6cp # disable deflate # disable pred1 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 08:14:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1724D106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp3.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14D38FC15 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:14:35 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gf1CudfSVYh3XhyQAPGMwPFQ/4pzwPTMDeXC112K/mI= c=1 sm=0 a=q2t7bAFVVysA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=Fr8x0r-PAAAA:8 a=4zw0eNALg9Cb68DJ7YAA:9 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:39209] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 31/6B-23439-AE36DEF4; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:14:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:14:34 -0400 Message-ID: <31.6B.23439.AE36DEF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: "Peter A. Giessel" Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:14:36 -0000 "Peter A. Giessel" responded: > According to: > http://www.sysresccd.org/Detailed-packages-list > It does not contain any version of restore. > There are a lot of Linux boot disks out there. I haven't found one yet that includes an ext4 compatible restore. Debian lets you roll your own, but you need to do that before a disaster. It doesn't include useful rescue CDs like FreeBSD does. You could try http://www.sysresccd.org/System-tools Some recovery tools are listed, including FSArchiver and Partimage. Maybe one of those listed recovery tools might fit your need? Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 08:30:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E27C1065672 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgeorge.ml2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FD58FC12 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so2584296vcb.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:30:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fdug64yd9zwaIRJba6Wd1soSSkOTt219Uceww+ijA04=; b=AXi4FLyaOd8Xgu7XkzDuP4fOMgTTTtGA0BXS3hqY9LaqDXAb94XozMGegE5+vq/QPO MA8m88sgPEhUrMp/CPptfoIUY9/xg00hJQqFgUKEO5v9+MfZK7WtSC9PE4HV8FOBHsYC kxbfh9iQuKbc67AsIkjvam/8SiYrAcY2iHiLnyKGPs47kAJQHbP1XwEPycEpYHLLfCqT tBumfiYwGcYq0PRFsn1w8nIbsiAHj/a1vm7tTvv54ITKqIDUrh71tpa2mgegmNRz3kpJ Izd+HsO3BY1/30+AKmJwr44DeJofQwSaO+z4XV6QC9Q/rpqQE6Dm+xowEUPXKEZXQnsr kdXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.47 with SMTP id o15mr308624vdi.73.1340958650428; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.20.102 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:00:50 +0530 Message-ID: From: Siju George To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:30:56 -0000 Hi, Can some body comment on these tests? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_wheezybsd_freeze&num=1 Are these tests skewed in some way to make Linux look better? Thanks --Siju From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 08:53:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2541065673 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32FD8FC0A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5T8rAuH043639; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:53:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5T8rAsL043636; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:53:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:53:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Siju George In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:53:10 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:53:16 -0000 Most probably all filesystems were used with defaults. MAYBE softupdates, but not even sure for this. Compare this to linux which is async-like. Comparing with UFS+async would be more fair. Still - FreeBSD default MAXPHYS in param.h is far too low. i change it to 2048*1024 (default is 128*1024) and improvement on handling large files is huge. I run that setting everywhere. No problems. I already talked about it on forum but was ignored. As for scientific processing it should not depend much from OS at all, but for sure it depends on crappy compiler that Juniper wanted... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:01:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA221065672 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred.morcos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15BD8FC1A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm11 with SMTP id hm11so605041wib.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:01:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=pJOz96cfd+NpdjOAhzQ7/bWrFn67XPLF2h0xGuXovfs=; b=Y9gBTIE8rX/3lr4wktt1XecldNl2nyZ0r4kIHGlijD9fhC7tqv6YUtQQYJCY9hTdvz h2zn7wTYhsUADnZsAs8i1RF1OFlsJUHZo7XoDw0kq8I/6/VO4sgFM4KOb6cKgQT7fXgV 2oRUM9ty7Q6WZgetnyhk9WqoY0Lvxfh0l3HVJNd5nxmqH/Oe2MktyKLZW6dPAMjq41i1 rx2sdhP8RZ/Vw1xHYYNPzBNf8FVeQpCwAeZ+prSkzoFlMmd9iIrKx1vJKiK64vOWU4IG TDw9HU7VTldtjfSX6sdEHRg+uwR7bCUWbuxq4K8WrUqz+2zonUmpAE633JQEb7MGg9iS 03XQ== Received: by 10.180.102.228 with SMTP id fr4mr2966478wib.6.1340960478673; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:01:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.52.4 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:00:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Fred Morcos Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:00:58 +0200 Message-ID: To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Siju George , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:01:20 -0000 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Most probably all filesystems were used with defaults. > > MAYBE softupdates, but not even sure for this. Compare this to linux which > is async-like. Comparing with UFS+async would be more fair. > > Still - FreeBSD default MAXPHYS in param.h is far too low. i change it to > 2048*1024 (default is 128*1024) and improvement on handling large files is > huge. I run that setting everywhere. No problems. > > I already talked about it on forum but was ignored. > > As for scientific processing it should not depend much from OS at all, but > for sure it depends on crappy compiler that Juniper wanted... > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I would not worry too much about what this guy says. Judging from his interpretations of the plots, he doesn't seem to know much about the benchmarks he is running and why they behave that way on the different systems. I think he just runs and publishes everything that says benchmark on it, without truly understanding what's going on or even going through the effort of providing fair comparisons. That said, I think that the Linux kernel performs better simply due to wider adoption (larger developer base, wider set of use-cases, etc) and thus a higher chance of getting performance improvements. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:04:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB64C1065680 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366E58FC12 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5T94DCW043827; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:04:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5T94D9E043824; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:04:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:04:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Siju George In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:04:14 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:04:18 -0000 when properly configured FreeBSD is quite good. if that company: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExNDM chose FreeBSD in spite of hype-overloaded linux it must be a reason. As well as it seems they know what they are doing, storage configuration is IMGO an example how such things should be done to get the best of. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:07:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349B9106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF96A8FC0C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:07:52 +0200 From: vermaden To: Matthias Apitz X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: <20120629073009.GA1321@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <20120628185809.GA1107@tiny.Sisis.de> <20120629073009.GA1321@tiny.Sisis.de> X-Originating-IP: 77.115.234.196 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1340960872; bh=LHIjmt9+0gEELy8ZXXXyH6ibxfq94uPhd2ghwv8T3Tk=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:References: X-Originating-IP:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rTw90jYheehOjgT9Dpx9BtN5EZqWel51RczU7DOi348WNjm9mVOEd+NnefZkcajn5 dA2LrbtnyaF00gKc96WYQjPpmkR3/oN6EdwC5S81H6GgtyzTwWbWLTQ72R3uRbpM7S rf38KljqaA3t1KztHIFxQEgV8HsH1sTM4R88Px9w= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mike@sentex.net Subject: Re: umodem/ppp/3g stopped working after update from 9.0-RELEASE to 9-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:07:54 -0000 Thanks You, now I understand how badly it was broken (the config of course), I confirm that using the config You send everything works like a charm now, for the record, here is mine complete config: | default: | set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command |=20 | 3g: | set device /dev/cuaU0 | set speed 921600 |=20 | set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ | \"\" AT OK-AT-OK \ | AT+CFUN=3D1 OK \ | AT+COPS=3D0 OK \ | AT+CGDCONT=3D1,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"www.plusgsm.pl\\\" OK \ | \dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" |=20 | set logout "ABORT BUSY ABORT ERROR TIMEOUT 30 \"\" +++ATH O ATH OK" |=20 | set phone *99\# | set timeout 300 | set ifaddr 10.64.64.64/0 10.64.64.64/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 | add default HISADDR | enable dns | disable ipv6cp I am going to send update to the PR to close it ;) Thanks again, vermaden "Matthias Apitz" pisze: > El d=C3=ADa Friday, June 29, 2012 a las 08:02:17AM +0200, vermaden escrib= i=C3=B3: >=20 > > > I said this already: the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file you are > > > using is completely broken and the log matches this; > > >=20 > > > what should these AT cmds do in the section of 3g: > > >=20 > > > 3g: > > > set device /dev/cuaU0 > > > set speed 38400 > > > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 > > > add default HISADDR > > > term > > > AT+CFUN=3D1 > > > AT+CGDCONT=3D1,"IP","www.plusgsm.pl" > > > ATD*99# > > >=20 > > > matthias > >=20 > > I did not knew that its broken, I used the '3g' > > profile to connect, like that: # ppp -ddial 3g > >=20 > > It worked very well without errors on 9.0-RELEASE > > and it stopped working after the update to the > > 9-STABLE, what is broken there? >=20 > I can't imagine that 9-STABLE delivers such a broken file (already > because the "www.plusgsm.pl" entry in your file); I do not know how you > did the update and if maybe this is the result of some kind of broken > merging; I'm attaching the original file out of SVM (CURRENT) and mine > which have a working entry 'umts'; try to rebuild from both a workin one > by hand; >=20 > matthias >=20 > --=20 > Matthias Apitz > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) > UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 >=20 --=20 ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:13:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299F6106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from basarevych@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F758FC0A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so1516511eab.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:13:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=r/80/FoQ6SkIc5f77ytVZ+IsZLXKP7UZNmD9FpfOG8M=; b=M9GeAC9TBWyV3vCC062iWTDZfEL2nh/CQpUfUiJNBM105rolG/Fn+vSM06NjKtvtQ2 1Li5Wef9+XDfOIvPjzUv+nEC8TflqND7nSfPgCBUg5oorTMf4eMHFr1PCrUm+iIuINZh teMlBNXVZqEv7Lz4i9GVrvAnMXHLJftpg7MxBIMzF6kU0VzO8QAmVCzCkBF5NSN6JMQh HsQtWx4d1ksQgC2ouzjIbpWi7Qng6cC1aJhg9BUmuHrLBFDG3V8qBzq75h/JSnElEdGP +jioRGme6ONS6Q5lJBkb8J5ab3Mv0HwohkXPvVIZ1LkXbp5m1lFQt1GJv5tuFIyRL5Vl qtZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.98.202 with SMTP id v50mr423634eef.80.1340961207674; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.53.7 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:13:27 +0300 Message-ID: From: Ross To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: sshd and Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:13:29 -0000 Hello. I setup NIS, Kerberos and Kerberized NFS (v3) server. All the required daemons are running. /usr/home is exported from the server with sec=krb5i And there is a client machine. I uncommented these two lines in /etc/pam.d/system and sshd: auth sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass password sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass Now, if I do a local login to the client (on the text console) everything works fine, I get the Kerberos tickets and have access to mounted /usr/home But if I ssh into the client from server I do log in, but I don't get any ticket and access to /usr/home is denied. How to make sshd pam module create Kerberos tickets on login? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:25:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063D106566C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE468FC12 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so1521011eab.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:24:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=3+VLh7MUlwX7aAKIyGc2TRxXp7nxZJOzFqtzomsvy+E=; b=ZQtc61b0iUofhW53ifXYbGdgpC1a7HqtI0aCFb/QqAXjZJhllvNCeKpRBNdFUB47uo 13B19mBEodnde4c4ESai0mIbYRb3SObBhQYBCc6cfqRY+ZHg0dp6hQpsFropV33JC8ML cgLawp9jrfH/6p1wPaGrKx0dG345985+kJRRynteLhLMo0w6DGNo9qqAzwoGlhh8GSMN Y6isyzH+XR3jrpCkdIAByNztscYwOW8S/EsoVXEhfLclL/+DR2rBmT4Pdcj3myKZfzJs ffrIXJkoFxzjVS0E7eTPsN4L2MvP/t5Nl8McDrGXsQLLYn1IX+ygnXOnT1JH44AyTCdC f3VQ== Received: by 10.14.100.72 with SMTP id y48mr414754eef.106.1340961899014; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q53sm5914706eef.8.2012.06.29.02.24.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FED7468.4060000@my.gd> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:24:56 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120628234053.5e467406@serene.no-ip.org> In-Reply-To: <20120628234053.5e467406@serene.no-ip.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmLfm0HejQEbvOVEJP3rLXrhW8jZTojxztM85nGBEuj9zjQZWuA45MocyuHwdIc7RWG0Bfc Subject: Re: Messages not reaching the lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:25:00 -0000 On 6/29/12 6:40 AM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > Lately I've been noticing that almost without fail, any messages I send > to the FreeBSD mailing lists never actually appear on the list. > > Just wondering if maybe my ISP (cox.net) has been flagged as a known > spam source, or what? > > This is very strange! I'm still subscribed to all of the same lists > I've been on for quite some time, and am receiving the lists' mail just > fine. It's just my own messages that never show up here. > > We'll see if this one shows up. :-) > I've been experiencing the same issue for a long time. My messages are sent, people seem to actually receive them, but I don't, although my subscription options state that I should receive copies of my own messages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:41:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB43A106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543678FC19 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:41:48 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBAOh27U+kD30E/2dsb2JhbAANOIVatA4BAQEEAQEBICsgEAsLGAkhAgIPAhYBCSYOBQIEAQEBARkEh3WmAopRiQSLNxqCVIIKgRIDjkeBH4MjgzuEMY0hgV0 Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2012 11:40:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:40:37 +0200 From: Julien Cigar Organization: Belgian Biodiversity Platform User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120503 Thunderbird/12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030502030902090407050408" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:41:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030502030902090407050408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/29/2012 11:00, Fred Morcos wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >> Most probably all filesystems were used with defaults. >> >> MAYBE softupdates, but not even sure for this. Compare this to linux which >> is async-like. Comparing with UFS+async would be more fair. >> >> Still - FreeBSD default MAXPHYS in param.h is far too low. i change it to >> 2048*1024 (default is 128*1024) and improvement on handling large files is >> huge. I run that setting everywhere. No problems. >> >> I already talked about it on forum but was ignored. >> >> As for scientific processing it should not depend much from OS at all, but >> for sure it depends on crappy compiler that Juniper wanted... >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I would not worry too much about what this guy says. Judging from his > interpretations of the plots, he doesn't seem to know much about the > benchmarks he is running and why they behave that way on the different > systems. I think he just runs and publishes everything that says > benchmark on it, without truly understanding what's going on or even > going through the effort of providing fair comparisons. > > That said, I think that the Linux kernel performs better simply due to > wider adoption (larger developer base, wider set of use-cases, etc) > and thus a higher chance of getting performance improvements. Note that stability matters too. I remembered a bench on PostgreSQL where Linux was faster, but at some point the machine had to be rebooted because it became unresponsive. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --------------030502030902090407050408-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:43:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A8A106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893578FC19 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SkXjm-0005xS-TU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:43:38 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:43:38 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:43:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20120628234053.5e467406@serene.no-ip.org> <4FED7468.4060000@my.gd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Messages not reaching the lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:43:48 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:24:56 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 6/29/12 6:40 AM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >> Lately I've been noticing that almost without fail, any messages I send >> to the FreeBSD mailing lists never actually appear on the list. >> >> Just wondering if maybe my ISP (cox.net) has been flagged as a known >> spam source, or what? >> >> This is very strange! I'm still subscribed to all of the same lists >> I've been on for quite some time, and am receiving the lists' mail just >> fine. It's just my own messages that never show up here. >> >> We'll see if this one shows up. :-) >> >> > > I've been experiencing the same issue for a long time. > > My messages are sent, people seem to actually receive them, but I don't, > although my subscription options state that I should receive copies of > my own messages. I'm reading both your messages on gmane vi a newsreader (Pan) - my preferred method. No issues whatever. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 09:55:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691A2106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF4E8FC0C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q5T9tpVn097268 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:55:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:55:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201206290955.q5T9tpVn097268@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4FED7468.4060000@my.gd> Subject: Re: Messages not reaching the lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:55:23 -0000 Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 6/29/12 6:40 AM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > Lately I've been noticing that almost without fail, any messages I send > > to the FreeBSD mailing lists never actually appear on the list. > > > > We'll see if this one shows up. :-) > > I've been experiencing the same issue for a long time. > > My messages are sent, people seem to actually receive them, but I don't, > although my subscription options state that I should receive copies of > my own messages. One 'obvious' thing to try -- Change the options so as to _not_ get copies of your own messages. *SAVE* changes. Change the options back. Save again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 10:55:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CE1106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B473E8FC18 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120629105546.TMQX26743.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net>; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:55:46 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.76.239]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id UAva1j00S59mvxN02Avgov; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:55:45 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4FED89B1.01B6,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=E28Ey9/+jaWq7MvGfrgt2lwZFHB7lPtgJ9ggT+L96qY= c=1 sm=1 a=3rOsmGPDhH8A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=nJCg7m+klQzKrkQiY4doSw==:17 a=lM4-zUH5AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=O8T7lnNYdB1ZlwNEl78A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=jEf1h08QM1dPr6Fs:21 a=E31F10Ez7IeqG6kW:21 a=nJCg7m+klQzKrkQiY4doSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from serene.no-ip.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5TAtPZ3071274; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:55:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:55:20 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20120629055520.1b8b1e61@serene.no-ip.org> In-Reply-To: <201206290955.q5T9tpVn097268@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <4FED7468.4060000@my.gd> <201206290955.q5T9tpVn097268@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Messages not reaching the lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:55:47 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:55:51 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 6/29/12 6:40 AM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > > Lately I've been noticing that almost without fail, any messages > > > I send to the FreeBSD mailing lists never actually appear on the > > > list. > > > > > > We'll see if this one shows up. :-) > > > > I've been experiencing the same issue for a long time. > > > > My messages are sent, people seem to actually receive them, but I > > don't, although my subscription options state that I should receive > > copies of my own messages. > > One 'obvious' thing to try -- > Change the options so as to _not_ get copies of your own messages. > *SAVE* changes. > Change the options back. > Save again. Yes, I went and checked my options for questions@ and saw at the top of the page that they had had a number of bounced e-mails from my address recently. My computer was down for about a week or so earlier this month (had to be repaired). I'm not sure what this means exactly in terms of how the list server manages my subscription, but perhaps it's being tentatively cautious and just not sending any of my list submissions back to me(?). I don't know. I didn't actually change any settings while I was there, but that might be worth a try. We'll see if that helps. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 11:01:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FA5106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A728FC08 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SkYwa-0006HG-5s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:00:56 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:00:56 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:00:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:01:00 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:40:37 +0200, Julien Cigar wrote: > On 06/29/2012 11:00, Fred Morcos wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >>> Most probably all filesystems were used with defaults. >>> >>> MAYBE softupdates, but not even sure for this. Compare this to linux >>> which is async-like. Comparing with UFS+async would be more fair. >>> >>> Still - FreeBSD default MAXPHYS in param.h is far too low. i change it >>> to 2048*1024 (default is 128*1024) and improvement on handling large >>> files is huge. I run that setting everywhere. No problems. >>> >>> I already talked about it on forum but was ignored. >>> >>> As for scientific processing it should not depend much from OS at all, >>> but for sure it depends on crappy compiler that Juniper wanted... >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >>> unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> I would not worry too much about what this guy says. Judging from his >> interpretations of the plots, he doesn't seem to know much about the >> benchmarks he is running and why they behave that way on the different >> systems. I think he just runs and publishes everything that says >> benchmark on it, without truly understanding what's going on or even >> going through the effort of providing fair comparisons. >> >> That said, I think that the Linux kernel performs better simply due to >> wider adoption (larger developer base, wider set of use-cases, etc) >> and thus a higher chance of getting performance improvements. > > Note that stability matters too. > I remembered a bench on PostgreSQL where Linux was faster, but at some > point the machine had to be rebooted because it became unresponsive. > Unscientific, anecdotal and entirely subjective, but here's my 2c. I run both FreeBSD and Linux on the same machine in a multi-boot configuration. Each has its default disk configuration (UFS + SJ vs. Ext4 with journalling). Linux is noticeably faster, but the performance of both is satisfactory, and I prefer FreeBSD. To echo Julien, benchmarks aren't everything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 11:05:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819D5106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A098FC1D for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SkZ1B-0004jR-0Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:05:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1340967941011-5722964.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:05:47 -0000 At least he should have used one or at very least identical systems, not 3 different, albeit similar. And I do not care If it would change results or not, comparing different systems invalidates benchmarks period. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Anatomy-of-Perfomance-tests-tp5722932p5722964.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 11:12:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C2F106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED758FC0C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5TBCkLe044366; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:12:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5TBCk4q044363; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:12:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:12:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Julien Cigar In-Reply-To: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: References: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:12:46 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:12:50 -0000 what i would like to see too is how these systems compare on such test: - run lots of heavy disk I/O tests, many different in the same time, including ones doing many writes to different places. - turn off power while doing this, by unplugging from wall plug. - compare amount of loss and destruction that happened to filesystem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 11:25:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202AF10656D3 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred.morcos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26F48FC1C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so2532924wer.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:25:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=+2yEivokI+4CKNQPGFGI21MJmwFHZrdg5pZGocgo5OY=; b=CEcb1eWl+UxC5j/ERhtPKQ0eWmMuypWa39giTs3eNK0zxB5NCf05inmruHqLupujqJ L/OBx6skBjQAu7R4dEu2gAYTqeei+0a4OYYeBK0hhCxSPwukenSGLbIvH66C36YN6lOf ivo9bi4hufDJwUQWcChU4L10MLJcWTtRygP60MPucQaHOPvdIcc0oTxyWldXFBt6ftQc hPlLOrMIhJS9JgMvfWwhwhpHxBYY/UDOVObxgljgTbHGW7gTBftDd9sksVLDMENW2Vut l89nSZTRyvI43jAVDalWJ0Pt19oCa0CTazva5I2RbNYnRz2CdpumW3RE+GcnVn1Ou+F5 EUpg== Received: by 10.180.93.99 with SMTP id ct3mr4012893wib.13.1340969131003; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:25:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.52.4 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:25:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> From: Fred Morcos Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:25:10 +0200 Message-ID: To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:25:38 -0000 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > what i would like to see too is how these systems compare on such test: > > - run lots of heavy disk I/O tests, many different in the same time, > including ones doing many writes to different places. > > - turn off power while doing this, by unplugging from wall plug. > > - compare amount of loss and destruction that happened to filesystem. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It would be very interesting to see the results of stress-testing systems. I cannot think of a scenario that isn't possible with a virtual machine. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p29sm5052044yhl.19.2012.06.29.04.53.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WNx7d4zJQz2CG4F for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:53:01 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120629075301.50d01e2c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120629055520.1b8b1e61@serene.no-ip.org> References: <4FED7468.4060000@my.gd> <201206290955.q5T9tpVn097268@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120629055520.1b8b1e61@serene.no-ip.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlLZ1GyDsozHljmB22yrrOVMwNDuvYK2E3GQYJWY5bfv/FgNXTQJTe+E1jwJsDNtfjbziDi Subject: Re: Messages not reaching the lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:53:07 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:55:20 -0500 Conrad J. Sabatier articulated: > Yes, I went and checked my options for questions@ and saw at the top > of the page that they had had a number of bounced e-mails from my > address recently. My computer was down for about a week or so > earlier this month (had to be repaired). I'm not sure what this > means exactly in terms of how the list server manages my > subscription, but perhaps it's being tentatively cautious and just > not sending any of my list submissions back to me(?). I don't know. Now this is the reason that you should have had some sort of backup plan in place in case your mail server goes down. There are methods of handling this problem and I am sure if you started a new thread and requested help that many knowledgeable users would be willing to lend you their expertise. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Revenge is a form of nostalgia. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 12:04:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5DD1065670 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAF48FC0C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5TBA1WU044337; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:10:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5TBA1ao044334; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:10:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:10:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Julien Cigar In-Reply-To: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: References: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:10:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:04:08 -0000 >> That said, I think that the Linux kernel performs better simply due to >> wider adoption (larger developer base, wider set of use-cases, etc) >> and thus a higher chance of getting performance improvements. > > Note that stability matters too. of course - this is what i pointed out at first. the second is clear team managing a kernel, and support. What i recently get when getting FreeBSD crash problems is something that you'll not get from linux. It found out to be my fault. I would generally call properly configured FreeBSD as rock-stable. The filesystem performance was close, and comparing dangerous linux filesystem to UFS isn't good. i would recommend comparing -o async mounted UFS with that test. Second - i would like to see how responsive linux server is WHILE performing that tests ;) high latencies under load was a problem i always had with linux when still using it. But scientific computing task results are FreeBSD fault, and the some reason is clang compiler,. With recent gcc-recompiled binaries it would be similar result. Similar as with compute-bound processes OS doesn't have much to change. Maybe, if there were more threads run than available, scheduler could matter. And i think FreeBSD scheduler would clearly win. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 13:13:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65AF1065676 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BEC8FC0C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (unknown [82.246.30.233]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3114C80BD for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:13:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: by che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 86B6D28568; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:13:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:13:27 +0200 From: Harald Weis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120629131327.GA7237@pollux.local.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: video buffer location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:13:35 -0000 In contrast to firefox, there is no decent video download helper for opera. HOWTO find the video buffer location if it is not /tmp ? Thank you in advance, -- Harald Weis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 13:43:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EE6106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979B78FC08 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:43:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=yKjTF8idOsdBPL69zBRodmdYdNGkbuWtbxZzLx/hlH0=; b=DbhbeD0wyoeOLsnzDC6VK1jw3TC+oXlrSujBUgxCYeVo5MXADf/6FoDyWj3UIWoxINDAWaZ4OCshG2c3kFaAYXvwRs70I/LrhSHo5hxh10Er6FYt75BQMbxrX75UBrEC; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SkbUF-0002bM-7B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:43:56 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1340977430-94480-94479/5/78; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:43:50 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <52.6F.23439.46C3DEF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:43:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: OT: Linux EXT4 dump/restore equivalent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:43:56 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:52:35 -0500, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > > There are a lot of Linux boot disks out there. I haven't found one yet > that includes an ext4 compatible restore. Debian lets you roll your own, > but you need to do that before a disaster. It doesn't include useful > rescue CDs like FreeBSD does. I've always had great success in the past with RIP Rescue live-cd. It was one of the early live-cds with ext4 support. I wonder if the guy who makes it was smart enough to add restore.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 14:06:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A95106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick@wholesum.net) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2758FC14 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.27.2.50] (fl-71-49-226-180.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.49.226.180]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LvVAB-1RlBUk0UpH-00zxdv; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:06:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4FEDB654.7010506@wholesum.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:06:12 -0400 From: Nikolai Wendorf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:vAymummKmVkMgwcBrDNJVDdMMTRhsiTQjmGYgeeORrz pM8fEapT+Un2pk7jWOBMYMhr1kew/eC++5gPmdfnJaHPU2wdZP xviq4/0KdgoLoRpVAh2fhBJAbv6sB6s0vx0DgXpNvZUQlRMpE7 Bsx23mDDmaSoflf/dLyMMPw6spigxTa+m8to0wuDQsZOXkN+9o GwkhePE/YwzfwD1NGmiLUMF+HBffvCxMVAsOEey9gWgnErP8ZS jZfrombfJ+gFpPgpL/78QY2YkfT7XIJPwSMS90YdMxgftBvMA7 fe8zbEDq9arIOifEvddxyMp3GvkO5A0xtIZat/Wz4fe4AUBaAU yn21+g+8i1+yufQLJzxo= Cc: Subject: (inkscape-0.48.1_4) (missing header) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:06:15 -0000 All, Recent csup introduced this error a few week ago - I noticed nothing in UPDATING and several following csup did not resolve. a snippet from the build log: CXX extension/implementation/script.o CXX extension/implementation/xslt.o CXX extension/internal/wpg-input.o extension/internal/wpg-input.cpp:58:44: error: libwpg/WPGStreamImplementation.h: No such file or directory extension/internal/wpg-input.cpp: In member function 'virtual SPDocument* Inkscape::Extension::Internal::WpgInput::open(Inkscape::Extension::Input*, const gchar*)': extension/internal/wpg-input.cpp:73: error: expected type-specifier extension/internal/wpg-input.cpp:73: error: cannot convert 'int*' to 'WPXInputStream*' in initialization extension/internal/wpg-input.cpp:73: error: expected ',' or ';' I wonder if anyone else is seeing this? FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Thu Jun 28 12:56:46 EDT 2012 thanks, Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 14:16:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA4F106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick@wholesum.net) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14F78FC14 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.27.2.50] (fl-71-49-226-180.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.49.226.180]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MF4yZ-1SeEM131YJ-00Fuzi; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:16:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4FEDB8D6.4040202@wholesum.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:16:54 -0400 From: Nikolai Wendorf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:eeJclMV3qv4rKAFLXx2YmsiGDkfNciE50Kl8Hc90l06 0xXbHbatjY/57Qs5b/xbOSdJgtOSuiy2tHVSKRlmgsmnCJxRJS OzwB1Jzbv7iBI/Sb9DhlGJzhlMknmnKbXhkFA+jUKghL3Rxlsz TfS7H7xKqhkN63kItTw5rKcrbZsJ/TX2GgiZghwI+/49KsAh8d wtQU8ZDX8/UJoz7t/7uJ0PR3bymdCg3chGESGhE1QjAJ36imiL GuCt2AlPk8WnYnPu7dTC/02G5eGoECmgXP5m2i5x67rDPYZX2p PIZd8sCnEQHt7kFxvD4TQBEoZAcyOPIC9TUftpivuL2ZeXZgZH qD6NqRZfR79fH+1j9KMQ= Cc: Subject: (gstreamer-plugins-0.10.35_1,3) (compiler error) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:16:57 -0000 All, Recent csup introduced this error ===> Building for gstreamer-plugins-0.10.36,3 . . gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/work/gst-p lugins-base-0.10.36/gst/audioresample' CC libgstaudioresample_la-gstaudioresample.lo CC libgstaudioresample_la-speex_resampler_int.lo CC libgstaudioresample_la-speex_resampler_float.lo In file included from resample.c:134, from speex_resampler_float.c:26: resample_sse.h: In function 'inner_product_single': resample_sse.h:46: error: '__m128' undeclared (first use in this function) resample_sse.h:46: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once resample_sse.h:46: error: for each function it appears in.) resample_sse.h:46: error: expected ';' before 'sum' resample_sse.h:49: error: 'sum' undeclared (first use in this function) resample_sse.h:49: warning: implicit declaration of function '_mm_add_ps' resample_sse.h:49: warning: nested extern declaration of '_mm_add_ps' resample_sse.h:49: warning: implicit declaration of function '_mm_mul_ps' resample_sse.h:49: warning: nested extern declaration of '_mm_mul_ps' resample_sse.h:49: warning: implicit declaration of function '_mm_loadu_ps' the final complaint from portupgrade was ! multimedia/gstreamer-plugins (gstreamer-plugins-0.10.35_1,3) (compiler error) FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Thu Jun 28 12:56:46 EDT 2012 thanks, Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 14:50:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE5B106564A; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8648FC17; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eabm6 with SMTP id m6so1661481eab.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:50:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=styK9Yo+0+iyhwyq36SRdsK4P3PZGbEY2Rq0FJjt3qQ=; b=eJSiGRm7PzC4A/cibc7zZagIeT45cRvf4xzAUacVmdgb6CQbScqPKjw7FaYT2QsFAU vXbBG2XTM6BC0ieVsAq0BDUA6vTCHVrU2s9c/ZMs0XZC4lUC7TC8aMPl/TExQfPyT/Kl urppDj/LfjOI6UtW1clFd5pPs5PRzPwn4ZKRXiaUY8UK1QCD5dJDrk3t5kdJuQKdpY/H 9eDfdyZuQndm0033mzeAfJ2jqdzl3HZYw9EfzIgeYbsQsdZ/LBDnAIWup9kik0lavAcv KI2hnslqKFCrSx2JFND4aeiuB2yynbm0rDH+xsAQ1+wZaamstaGfyWlw0Rh6Xc86MD93 rb0w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.102.137 with SMTP id fo9mr2250701lab.35.1340981452737; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.14.104 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:50:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3MPzWqniTPxWTxLoyxvFsjYzVD0 Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 8-STABLE on R620 w/ X520-DA2/Intel 82599 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:50:55 -0000 Hi All, I have 2 hosts, HP DL360 G8 and Dell R620. Both have the X520-DA2/Intel 82599 10G Fiber NIC. Both also have the same FreeBSD 8-STABLE image. The Dell displays the following in dmesg and we are unable to configure the ix0 or ix1 interfaces where the HP works just fine. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? pci4: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pci4: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 14:58:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30FA106566B; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aboyer@averesystems.com) Received: from mail.averesystems.com (50-73-27-109-cpennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.73.27.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF538FC15; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.averesystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B19A4802F5; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:58:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.averesystems.com Received: from mail.averesystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.averesystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EpRRrhI6ye3W; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riven.arriad.com (206.193.225.214.nauticom.net [206.193.225.214]) by mail.averesystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 661F54802DF; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Andrew Boyer In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:58:14 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8AA7930A-9E81-4479-8333-FB28C4036E08@averesystems.com> References: To: Rick Miller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8-STABLE on R620 w/ X520-DA2/Intel 82599 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:58:17 -0000 Please post the output of pciconf -lvc for these devices. -Andrew On Jun 29, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi All, > > I have 2 hosts, HP DL360 G8 and Dell R620. Both have the > X520-DA2/Intel 82599 10G Fiber NIC. Both also have the same FreeBSD > 8-STABLE image. The Dell displays the following in dmesg and we are > unable to configure the ix0 or ix1 interfaces where the HP works just > fine. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? > > pci4: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > pci4: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) > > > -- > Take care > Rick Miller > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -------------------------------------------------- Andrew Boyer aboyer@averesystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 15:14:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C31106566C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward11.mail.yandex.net (forward11.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FC58FC16 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (smtp13.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.68]) by forward11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 007FEE810E3; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:14:07 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D3DB7E40408; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:14:07 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 87.249.28.58.tel.ru (87.249.28.58.tel.ru [87.249.28.58]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id E790xlUb-E79WuZWZ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:14:07 +0400 X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: nick@wholesum.net X-Yandex-Rcpt-Suid: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <4FEDC63F.2010905@passap.ru> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:14:07 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120620 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolai Wendorf References: <4FEDB654.7010506@wholesum.net> In-Reply-To: <4FEDB654.7010506@wholesum.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (inkscape-0.48.1_4) (missing header) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:14:10 -0000 29.06.2012 18:06, Nikolai Wendorf пишет: > Recent csup introduced this error a few week ago - I noticed nothing in > UPDATING and several following csup did not resolve. There is something strange with your system. If you have a recent ports tree then you should have inkscape-0.48.2. And then you may be interested at record "20120109: AFFECTS: users of graphics/inkscape". -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 15:51:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8593106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A948FC14 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5TFpjQR045182; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:51:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5TFpjPD045179; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:51:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:51:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fred Morcos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4FED7815.10102@ulb.ac.be> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anatomy of Perfomance tests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:51:49 -0000 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > It would be very interesting to see the results of stress-testing > systems. I cannot think of a scenario that isn't possible with a > virtual machine. quite but not really. if tested OS does not force hard disk to commit writes at right time, as FreeBSD do, virtual machine will not catch all things. anyway abruptly stopping virtual machine is a good test. use LARGE memory for tested OS. Funny but this is the case when linux is actually worse as it could delay more writes and then issue them in any order. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 15:53:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141031065674 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5802F8FC17 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5TFrO2A045188 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:53:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5TFrOxY045185 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:53:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:53:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:53:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: "binary diff" utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:53:27 -0000 i have many windows images running over virtualbox. each takes several gigabytes. i use flat image format. each differs by very little. Is there any program that can do "diff" and keep just a difference between each of them instead copy of whole VM disk?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 15:57:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86111065670; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (mail.in-addr.com [IPv6:2001:470:8:162::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFCD8FC14; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SkdYW-000Pi4-9S; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:56:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:56:24 -0400 From: Gary Palmer To: Rick Miller Message-ID: <20120629155624.GC14487@in-addr.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: gpalmer@freebsd.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on noop.in-addr.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8-STABLE on R620 w/ X520-DA2/Intel 82599 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:57:10 -0000 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:50:52AM -0400, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi All, > > I have 2 hosts, HP DL360 G8 and Dell R620. Both have the > X520-DA2/Intel 82599 10G Fiber NIC. Both also have the same FreeBSD > 8-STABLE image. The Dell displays the following in dmesg and we are > unable to configure the ix0 or ix1 interfaces where the HP works just > fine. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? > > pci4: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > pci4: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) Please see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2012-June/032579.html it may be of some assistance. It looks like adding the Dell specific PCI IDs may be all thats required. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 16:01:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F49106566C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ariel.burbaickij@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270718FC15 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds11 with SMTP id ds11so3139978wgb.31 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:01:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=c2s4F+U6r4l546C+2Qb7h8qpV7sLC38vtnzrajtNLtY=; b=hxNgVvV4CZRnKChYdwOyLEaXHTJzrSLilYnHQCZBBbVIGgR/H3VccfpXnaz7/L4bj1 mfoPGt1inCCV6bYXEjMQLNvADBwhdcXIUGsOZJThEkbMhb5ZjJDOpw8KClG+8NIWjXxi v17eAI1oRwL0Tda+QnYTXEYxH3Co1M6NPAz2OmlLlhI54ecjnLfNYiTMvTGcIAGujRYN oz3KmjdjKrSM8BnIec1zqEmboNkkXAHThFG8Ybs7ENjlUwEdW4T6fP5SwaqNmBnTWo61 wKzf2rhpUZBFKJHvSTY5j7HVgwXDtEzZ+Xr1CqqvnzohGM98tIwgZl+p6lfntmxLSFhr OdEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.197.38 with SMTP id s38mr1024144wen.205.1340985668068; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.100.105 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:01:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:01:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: Ariel Burbaickij To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "binary diff" utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:01:09 -0000 Xdelta if I correctly understood what you want. /wbr Ariel Burbaickij On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i have many windows images running over virtualbox. each takes several > gigabytes. i use flat image format. > > each differs by very little. > > Is there any program that can do "diff" and keep just a difference between > each of them instead copy of whole VM disk?? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 16:05:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B9510656F9 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453A08FC17 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5TG4xBn006850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:05:02 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.101] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:05:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:04:53 -0700 Message-ID: <54320F22-40C5-43E9-AAA0-799058F1EECB@fisglobal.com> References: To: Wojciech Puchar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-29_04:2012-06-29, 2012-06-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "binary diff" utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:05:04 -0000 On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i have many windows images running over virtualbox. each takes several gi= gabytes. i use flat image format. >=20 > each differs by very little. >=20 > Is there any program that can do "diff" and keep just a difference betwee= n each of them instead copy of whole VM disk?? Try libxdiff=85 http://www.freshports.org/textproc/libxdiff/ >From the pkg-descr: The LibXDiff library implements basic and yet complete functionalities to create file differences/patches to both binary and text files. The library uses memory files as file abstraction to achieve both performance and portability. For binary files, LibXDiff implements (with some modification) the algorithm described in File System Support for Delta Compression by Joshua P. MacDonald, while for text files it follows directives described in An O(ND) Difference Algorithm and Its Variations by Eugene W. Myers. Memory files used by the library are basically a collection of buffers that store = the file content. There are two different requirements for memory files when pa= ssed to diff/patch functions. Text files for diff/patch functions require that a single line do not have to spawn across two different memory file blocks. Binary diff/patch functions require memory files to be compact. A compact memory files is a file whose content is stored inside a single block. WWW:=20 http://www.xmailserver.org/xdiff-lib.html --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 16:07:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073E0106566B for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB168FC20 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5TG7o1J023687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:07:50 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.101] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:07:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:07:40 -0700 Message-ID: <90611590-45A3-4280-B260-B9F6B1E41F48@fisglobal.com> References: To: Ariel Burbaickij X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-29_04:2012-06-29, 2012-06-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "binary diff" utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:07:51 -0000 On Jun 29, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Ariel Burbaickij wrote: > Xdelta if I correctly understood what you want. >=20 vbindiff might also fit the bill=85 http://www.freshports.org/textproc/vbindiff/ >From the pkg-descr: Visual Binary Diff (VBinDiff) displays files in hexadecimal and ASCII (or EBCDIC). It can also display two files at once, and highlight the differences between them. Unlike diff, it works well with large files (up to 4 GB). WWW:=20 http://www.pobox.com/~cjm/vbindiff/ --=20 Devin > /wbr > Ariel Burbaickij >=20 > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >> i have many windows images running over virtualbox. each takes several >> gigabytes. i use flat image format. >>=20 >> each differs by very little. >>=20 >> Is there any program that can do "diff" and keep just a difference betwe= en >> each of them instead copy of whole VM disk?? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 16:21:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BFD1065715 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12938FC0C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5TGLX4S009613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:21:33 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.101] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:21:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:21:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <498CBB31-AF44-42F1-BB64-6C78778B1FC3@fisglobal.com> References: To: Wojciech Puchar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-29_05:2012-06-29, 2012-06-29, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "binary diff" utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:21:38 -0000 On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i have many windows images running over virtualbox. each takes several gi= gabytes. i use flat image format. >=20 > each differs by very little. >=20 > Is there any program that can do "diff" and keep just a difference betwee= n each of them instead copy of whole VM disk?? Der, someone over my shoulder highlights the fact that there's "bsdiff" and= "bspatch" in the base system for diffing/patching binary files. But your mileage may vary with such large files. Something from ports that'= s already been recommended may work better. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 16:35:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04989106564A; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158AC8FC15; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj5 with SMTP id j5so1926006bkw.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:35:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=r2UXhs96EukskRsG27D6nsm7Y4nzV5YK0YEluv/KcGI=; b=HhsrClihirSF0Ap10eOJRM8uDaNPrAIAwgp/4ciogiN2QjLVKIuWASRPdFNYq6hL0Y 6rHb64oNns1SJxx2aNUKs2JVU/CaoF3dIDx92af6d82sxdomrbeaslmz95oA8/7goFhx tQIrkF1sPQx4VNy3dV3ZsYN/V5oLQNcd2Y6pbWVvmVhBXcwcXJpz/T+r6bjz1NpzEK2F Tv55TGLu/w9VpdFYKJESAuDvFA01MIMbKSENujGk4GGkwUeXX0NlGT4rbMdLZ4nIy5ee E7960mcoQHqn7+j+yrvcbtNjNpeX8bl4NHQrn9ZLcDb4/q+eUukVroJuDq6K6Pl5qgOg Yoeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.103.11 with SMTP id fs11mr2617648lab.23.1340987715846; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.14.104 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:35:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120629155624.GC14487@in-addr.com> References: <20120629155624.GC14487@in-addr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:35:15 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: L1pfpGvYKSsuCvuNO91MrVHc16c Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Gary Palmer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8-STABLE on R620 w/ X520-DA2/Intel 82599 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:35:18 -0000 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Gary Palmer wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:50:52AM -0400, Rick Miller wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have 2 hosts, HP DL360 G8 and Dell R620. =A0Both have the >> X520-DA2/Intel 82599 10G Fiber NIC. =A0Both also have the same FreeBSD >> 8-STABLE image. =A0The Dell displays the following in dmesg and we are >> unable to configure the ix0 or ix1 interfaces where the HP works just >> fine. =A0Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? >> >> pci4: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) >> pci4: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) > > Please see > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2012-June/032579.html > > it may be of some assistance. =A0It looks like adding the Dell specific > PCI IDs may be all thats required. Hrmm, very interesting indeed. How do I identify if/when/where the source has been updated? --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 16:39:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A31106566B; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2368FC16; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so955210wib.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=at9HY28eUpceSvaDQXKmFBI8KY22zeeAsvnlEnAZ0nw=; b=ceQe2JUsR/D1xWwNieA1WYjgYFMZboXx2U8cf6MPOuxuhAIdJU6Jh7Avd8sjfLR1d2 EeYYhMdIqrDf+vzzUemONz3cj9co0Pp6XXnDCyPbp2hfoPIxbIW7mxTMJuIosdR53OGi jbtgamDnA9/aOi5FfSHbhzG8En8kF93ReXGRzxxi/r3BCPV94dZn+8h+E3QclsUjobq+ I3MYLMeX1PhjaU211Ej3P70xTYLDnYjy+WtjSJDCYar13vpRqwDQ83MFIBsFxi63pBYb My9UKe9MKSL5F6BdEvEPvlxv3wKeFdkTaL8HwMG+IY9yMY1OtAozRYjthRcjUhu908YT 94yw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.105.6 with SMTP id gi6mr6162114wib.4.1340987948638; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.232 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120629155624.GC14487@in-addr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:39:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jack Vogel To: Rick Miller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Palmer , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8-STABLE on R620 w/ X520-DA2/Intel 82599 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:39:10 -0000 Be patient, a new version will hit HEAD soon with the ID added. Jack On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Rick Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Gary Palmer wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:50:52AM -0400, Rick Miller wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I have 2 hosts, HP DL360 G8 and Dell R620. Both have the > >> X520-DA2/Intel 82599 10G Fiber NIC. Both also have the same FreeBSD > >> 8-STABLE image. The Dell displays the following in dmesg and we are > >> unable to configure the ix0 or ix1 interfaces where the HP works just > >> fine. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? > >> > >> pci4: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > >> pci4: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) > > > > Please see > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2012-June/032579.html > > > > it may be of some assistance. It looks like adding the Dell specific > > PCI IDs may be all thats required. > > Hrmm, very interesting indeed. > > How do I identify if/when/where the source has been updated? > > -- > Take care > Rick Miller > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 18:28:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD7210656AC; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827078FC15; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so6190471lbo.13 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:28:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MEcdh2lvPPmm5w8TzoFX7Un8P/AK+De7C26xYU/CERY=; b=mAQXqD6hLYwvrok0aWYqCTHgvcVxhhOUj3x56GlhOdEY0Qrv6/HITm9Netg+Z9Gh/Z BbowodwatgX1LhSpCYJj32Bgv7JkHELXx/DDacVnqcLcj5npqQHQq5HeiOIJRRFZSmsl GtB8GFIk+pD6PYkG/GBjE6QpxsT+oLoZNZJbm1/gVBPEKSCJoRDCqI4w5307bF5WP9eN ic74Rqw69YpK7t/JsnbW6rk3D8Q8OA/GRJLyR3lEzElJL/4RSGAKz4+mvvoViy8qeTvj wHloDmxVB5PNJSALNwXM1xGCJM7SJnxaTzSDtRuz0IW7pdV5xA9eL3OjWjFmfkBkIpaR qSIw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.102.234 with SMTP id fr10mr3015745lab.32.1340994505516; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.14.104 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:28:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120629155624.GC14487@in-addr.com> References: <20120629155624.GC14487@in-addr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:28:25 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: V95eYMRFVku2o6rU82Nx_3x8CvU Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Gary Palmer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8-STABLE on R620 w/ X520-DA2/Intel 82599 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:28:27 -0000 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Gary Palmer wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:50:52AM -0400, Rick Miller wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have 2 hosts, HP DL360 G8 and Dell R620. =A0Both have the >> X520-DA2/Intel 82599 10G Fiber NIC. =A0Both also have the same FreeBSD >> 8-STABLE image. =A0The Dell displays the following in dmesg and we are >> unable to configure the ix0 or ix1 interfaces where the HP works just >> fine. =A0Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? >> >> pci4: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) >> pci4: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) > > Please see > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2012-June/032579.html > > it may be of some assistance. =A0It looks like adding the Dell specific > PCI IDs may be all thats required. We removed an Intel branded equivalent from the DL360 and tried it in the R620. It detected it no problem. Only problem was we could not see it in the BIOS, not a huge deal to us. -- Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 19:55:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482AB106566C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CB58FC1C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-5.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.5]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AE527D36; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:54:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q5TJsxE4001946; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:54:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:54:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Harald Weis Message-Id: <20120629215459.bf2cb6f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120629131327.GA7237@pollux.local.net> References: <20120629131327.GA7237@pollux.local.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video buffer location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:55:07 -0000 On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:13:27 +0200, Harald Weis wrote: > In contrast to firefox, > there is no decent video download helper for opera. Oh, there _is_, even though it's not integrated in Opera. :-) For YouTube, check out the port "youtube-dl". For most of everything else, see http://github.com/monsieurvideo/get-flash-videos for details. > HOWTO find the video buffer location if it is not /tmp ? I would assume there's some temporary storage either in ~/.opera or ~/.macromedia (for the "Flash" plugin). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 29 20:00:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6FD106564A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick@wholesum.net) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825DF8FC0A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.27.2.50] (fl-71-49-226-180.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.49.226.180]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LqhuU-1SFVXd0YfS-00ddvV; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:00:28 -0400 Message-ID: <4FEE0959.7070609@wholesum.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:00:25 -0400 From: Nikolai Wendorf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4FEDB654.7010506@wholesum.net> <4FEDC63F.2010905@passap.ru> In-Reply-To: <4FEDC63F.2010905@passap.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:XyA9uBTN8UabgL0zVkNE3sgO9JacrZVj39BkgQtAJL6 X6ckfSxegCAcRhbPXevnwe90yvn4jrPshSACWyk31OAdQMekWw 6fSr0I7Peh1VV80wPq3fx2Qn7bHWYAJHsYYlMQM7x6GK0KREjm lEhaufR+BUPj1mrLCYwOogZAS6mOSVgjDpcYQA5Mm6OROQqpa+ vxu08Z0vFE0iqpcZoRm9iLfAg6e4eVGYElx6NAgOm/bgwGTxrh XpR4oFzz8P1D0LwPSSEob4Wq1WbSFhkHId207FVCw2DPcei2zI qPfU/gyqI6PWdFati8LkZ9koVSqvDC1mkAnkbsgpi9W99Whne+ qvIKxLsWWMa3fatmGORg= Cc: Subject: Re: (inkscape-0.48.1_4) (missing header) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:00:35 -0000 many thanks Boris! failure to read UPDATING also using output of portupgrade summary is bad idea - inkscape-0.48.1_4 is what I was upgrading from I'll quit using that and use the ---> Upgrading 'inkscape-0.48.1_4' to 'inkscape-0.48.2_2' (graphics/inkscape) line instead compiles fine after pkg_delete per 20120109 On 6/29/2012 11:14 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > 29.06.2012 18:06, Nikolai Wendorf пишет: > >> Recent csup introduced this error a few week ago - I noticed nothing in >> UPDATING and several following csup did not resolve. > > There is something strange with your system. If you have a recent ports > tree then you should have inkscape-0.48.2. And then you may be > interested at record "20120109: AFFECTS: users of graphics/inkscape". > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 30 00:20:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C037C1065672 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 00:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AC8FC12 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 00:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-98-112-217-228.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [98.112.217.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q5U07Eip076672 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:07:14 -0700 Message-Id: <3BFFBC01-AF69-401F-AAB7-6F10781007B7@lafn.org> To: "questions@FreeBSD.org Questions" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 9.0 hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 00:20:35 -0000 I have a 9.0 p3 system that is in production for about a week and it = just plain hung this morning. The console had the last two messages as: link_eif symbol atm_event undefined KLD if_en.ko: depends on utopia - not available or version mismatch. I haven't found anything relevant on those through Google. if_en.ko os = present as is utopia.ko. I don't understand why the kernel would try to = load if_en as I don't have any of those devices. There are em0 and dc0 = ethernet interfaces. This is almost a generic kernel. The config file = contains: include GENERIC ident LAFN nocpu i486_CPU nocpu i586_CPU options QUOTA #device atapicam options ALTQ # Enable ALTQ. options ALTQ_CBQ # Build the ``Class Based Queuing'' = discipline. options ALTQ_NOPCC # Required for SMP build I couldn't find any relevant log messages that would indicate why this = module was trying to be loaded. However, even so, I would think it = should load ok. 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[203.141.138.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id np8sm7993972pbc.71.2012.06.30.04.14.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FEEDF77.7040005@sormarken.no> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:13:59 +0900 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Christian_S=F8rmarken?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmNn97PEah8Wo7CH8N/O4WARW6F0emrFenyMsW956GkjwnryvYMB+EZHXn2ZyAfh7oBfcB9 Subject: libtorrent-rasterbar fails with "Could not link against boost_thread-boost_thread" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:14:04 -0000 Dear community, While attempting to build libtorrent-rasterbar net-p2p/libtorrent-rasterbar-15, it fails make config. The last output is as following: Checking for boost libraries: checking for boostlib >= 1.36... yes checking whether the Boost::System library is available... yes checking for exit in -lboost_system... yes checking whether the Boost::Filesystem library is available... yes checking for exit in -lboost_filesystem... yes checking whether the Boost::Thread library is available... yes checking for exit in -lboost_thread... no checking for exit in -lboost_thread-boost_thread... no configure: error: Could not link against boost_thread-boost_thread ! ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. I am currently running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE, and compiling with lang/gcc (version 4.6). I have the following in make.conf: WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES WITHOUT_X11=yes CPUTYPE?=native .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports/*) && exists(/usr/local/bin/gcc46) CC=gcc46 CXX=g++46 CPP=cpp46 .endif # added by use.perl 2012-06-30 08:15:47 PERL_VERSION=5.12.4 and the following in /etc/libmap.conf libgcc_s.so.1 gcc46/libgcc_s.so.1 libgomp.so.1 gcc46/libgomp.so.1 libobjc.so.3 gcc46/libobjc.so.3 libssp.so.0 gcc46/libssp.so.0 libstdc++.so.6 gcc46/libstdc++.so.6 Any idea why libtorrent-rasterbar is unable to link against boost_thread-boost_thread? Python27 is compiled WITH "THREADS Threading support" and WITHOUT "PTH Use GNU Pth for threading/multiprocessing". Am I simply overlooking something here? 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Something from ports that's already been recommended may work better. > -- > Devin > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 30 19:14:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792971065677 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4518FC1A for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5UJEaZo001775; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:14:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5UJEaQm001772; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:14:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:14:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ariel Burbaickij In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:14:36 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "binary diff" utility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:14:41 -0000 > Xdelta if I correctly understood what you want. > except it plain doesn't work :( it generated diff which was similarly sized to original file. 2 files does not differ much. 2 Virtualbox images in flat format, changed computer name, IP number and login password in windoze, rest the same > /wbr > Ariel Burbaickij > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >> i have many windows images running over virtualbox. each takes several >> gigabytes. i use flat image format. >> >> each differs by very little. >> >> Is there any program that can do "diff" and keep just a difference between >> each of them instead copy of whole VM disk?? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 30 20:24:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB641065787 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1C28FC1A for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so1925899eek.13 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:24:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=NhkMEB5hnPywNq/+qyqihR+VOb/tZt1C5VLAk2ZcL2E=; b=gZSlrC1ybiQCOU39g3KPSyfriwkkPD5pgfLGH6J81WzcxK4W2ltc3zxO4DPlngcQTG nO765zFL97hnBSIiDKD2Frp93mNvl3143Gk+strrKcH9OGKTvt2kEfhv/xjiE58b9IRE GY8M2WydGizA5Sc74CR5ZoYaXp6txz5WZnLK8xxqd0p/alvqNxLCl7G1VgYY0Yb+/Xkc Tt/6B8seMC1aHFQ0/05k0Tv7Fxh0bMu7wHzmTVCWPuYeK1+5ZizNoHLMs9UNn8qj8XZl CBfjsUudBlf/uQqgm0R9B+eOBtlnjPdarn4/fKbOWYZHe2+5F+pU5PUTsgnKf+SKVsMd NF0g== Received: by 10.14.95.6 with SMTP id o6mr1580626eef.144.1341087840158; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kobe.gmail.com (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y54sm19367947eef.10.2012.06.30.13.23.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Aleksandr Miroslav References: Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:23:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Aleksandr Miroslav's message of "Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:25:46 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell scripting: grepping multiple patterns, logically ANDed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:24:08 -0000 On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:25:46 -0400, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > hello, > > I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this question, but here > goes. > > I have the following in a shell script: > > #!/bin/sh > > if [ "$#" -eq "0" ]; then > find /foo > fi > if [ "$#" -eq "1" ]; then > find /foo | grep -i $1 > fi > if [ "$#" -eq "2" ]; then > find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 > fi > if [ "$#" -eq "3" ]; then > find /foo | grep -i $1 | grep -i $2 | grep -i $3 > fi > > Is there an easier/shorter way to do this? If there are 15 arguments > supplied on the command line, I don't necessarily want to build 15 if > statements. The solutions proposed so far are ok, if you really *have* to stick to a shell script. For safer regexp pattern construction I'd probably convert the script to some language that makes it less easy to shoot yourself in the foot because you missed a quote or because you happened to choose "'" as the quoting character and one of the patterns includes it too. I'd write this sort of logic in python, constructing 'regexp' patterns on the go from the command-line arguments: #!/usr/bin/env python import sys import re if __name__ == '__main__': pattern = '^.*$' # Match everything by default matcher = None if len(sys.argv) > 1: pattern = ( r'^.*(' + '|'.join(map(lambda part: r'' + part, sys.argv[1:])) + ').*$') try: # print 'pattern = %s' % pattern matcher = re.compile(pattern) except: sys.stderr.write('invalid pattern: %s' % pattern) sys.exit(1) for line in sys.stdin.readlines(): # print '# line = "%s", match = %s' % ( # line.rstrip(), matcher.match(line)) if matcher.match(line): line = line.rstrip() print '%s' % line This should be able to match even patterns with quotes embedded, e.g.: 0630 22:21 kobe:~$ ./foo.py "it's dark" When it's dark, the world is normally a quieter place When it's dark ^D When it's dark, When it's dark 0630 22:22 kobe:~$ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 30 20:39:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5308C1065672 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6FA8FC0A for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5UKcqq3001781; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:38:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5UKcpkV001778; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:38:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:38:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120629215459.bf2cb6f9.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20120629131327.GA7237@pollux.local.net> <20120629215459.bf2cb6f9.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:38:52 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Harald Weis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video buffer location X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:39:00 -0000 > For YouTube, check out the port "youtube-dl". For most of everything > else, see http://github.com/monsieurvideo/get-flash-videos for > details. > xpi-unplug firefox plugin is useful too.