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On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:08:25 +0400, =C9=D7=C1=CE =CB=D5=DA=CE=C5=C3=CF=D7 =
wrote:
> >
> >
> > i was download 135g distfiles from russian mirror on usb hdd,
> > and i have no room on laptop for this files.how to setup apps
> > from it,how to build pbi files? i was read some articles but i
> > cant.
>
> I assume it's better to ask PBI-related questions in PC-BSD's
> web forum as those are not exactly "native FreeBSD things".
>
>
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I'm not sure how building PBI files is going to help with your 135G of
files from Russia that won't seem to fit on your drive, however there is
some pbi software in ports for you to check out..

ports-mgmt/pbi-manager
sysutils/pbimaker
x11-fm/pbi-thumbnailer
sysutils/easypbi


I've experimented a bit with the software on FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT and
PC-BSD 9 machine - but I'm not an authority on the subject ;-) ... pbi
could prove to be a good way to test out stuff that needs newer glib, gtk,
etc, to avoid royally dorking up your system, like for example GIMP
development sources from cvs, as an alternative to building in a jail and
running the display through an X 'remote' connection.


Here's a wiki page i found to be a good reference.

http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PBI_Module_Builder_Guide

Waitman Gobble
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2012/9/9 Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:08:25 +0400, =C9=D7=C1=CE =CB=D5=DA=CE=C5=C3=CF=D7=
 wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > i was download 135g distfiles from russian mirror on usb hdd,
>> > and i have no room on laptop for this files.how to setup apps
>> > from it,how to build pbi files? i was read some articles but i
>> > cant.
>>
>> I assume it's better to ask PBI-related questions in PC-BSD's
>> web forum as those are not exactly "native FreeBSD things".
>>
>>
>> --
>> Polytropon
>> Magdeburg, Germany
>> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
>> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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>
>
>
> I'm not sure how building PBI files is going to help with your 135G of
> files from Russia that won't seem to fit on your drive, however there is
> some pbi software in ports for you to check out..
>
> ports-mgmt/pbi-manager
> sysutils/pbimaker
> x11-fm/pbi-thumbnailer
> sysutils/easypbi
>
>
> I've experimented a bit with the software on FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT and
> PC-BSD 9 machine - but I'm not an authority on the subject ;-) ... pbi
> could prove to be a good way to test out stuff that needs newer glib, gtk=
,
> etc, to avoid royally dorking up your system, like for example GIMP
> development sources from cvs, as an alternative to building in a jail and
> running the display through an X 'remote' connection.
>
>
> Here's a wiki page i found to be a good reference.
>
> http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PBI_Module_Builder_Guide
>
> Waitman Gobble
> San Jose California
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Sorry for offtopic, but for Ivan to know three things:
1) building software (and/or packaging it using PBI/tbz) is WAY more
complicated then just downloading distfiles from some mirror.
2) PC-BSD is BASED on but not EQUAL to FreeBSD and has it's own
mailing lists which can easily be found here -
http://lists.pcbsd.org/mailman/listinfo . Please do not think i'm
trying to be rude or get rid of new member, but sometimes one needs to
know the better way to find necessary information.
3) PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD since this deep knowledge of it
basically (i suppose) should begin with FreeBSD's Handbook which
carefully explains what ports are and how to use them. This page is a
good start (it's in Russian ;) )
-http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/ . Ports
specific information can be easily found here -
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/ports.html

Cheers!


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On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM, =F7=C9=D4=C1=CC=C9=CA =F4=D5=D2=CF=D7=C5=C3=
 <corebug@corebug.net> wrote:

> 2012/9/9 Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com>:
> > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:08:25 +0400, =C9=D7=C1=CE =CB=D5=DA=CE=C5=C3=CF=
=D7 wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > i was download 135g distfiles from russian mirror on usb hdd,
> >> > and i have no room on laptop for this files.how to setup apps
> >> > from it,how to build pbi files? i was read some articles but i
> >> > cant.
> >>
> >> I assume it's better to ask PBI-related questions in PC-BSD's
> >> web forum as those are not exactly "native FreeBSD things".
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Polytropon
> >> Magdeburg, Germany
> >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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> >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure how building PBI files is going to help with your 135G of
> > files from Russia that won't seem to fit on your drive, however there i=
s
> > some pbi software in ports for you to check out..
> >
> > ports-mgmt/pbi-manager
> > sysutils/pbimaker
> > x11-fm/pbi-thumbnailer
> > sysutils/easypbi
> >
> >
> > I've experimented a bit with the software on FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT and
> > PC-BSD 9 machine - but I'm not an authority on the subject ;-) ... pbi
> > could prove to be a good way to test out stuff that needs newer glib,
> gtk,
> > etc, to avoid royally dorking up your system, like for example GIMP
> > development sources from cvs, as an alternative to building in a jail a=
nd
> > running the display through an X 'remote' connection.
> >
> >
> > Here's a wiki page i found to be a good reference.
> >
> > http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PBI_Module_Builder_Guide
> >
> > Waitman Gobble
> > San Jose California
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>
> Sorry for offtopic, but for Ivan to know three things:
> 1) building software (and/or packaging it using PBI/tbz) is WAY more
> complicated then just downloading distfiles from some mirror.




> 2) PC-BSD is BASED on but not EQUAL to FreeBSD and has it's own
> mailing lists which can easily be found here -
> http://lists.pcbsd.org/mailman/listinfo . Please do not think i'm
> trying to be rude or get rid of new member, but sometimes one needs to
> know the better way to find necessary information.
>





> 3) PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD since this deep knowledge of it
> basically (i suppose) should begin with FreeBSD's Handbook which
> carefully explains what ports are and how to use them. This page is a
> good start (it's in Russian ;) )
> -http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/ . Ports
> specific information can be easily found here -
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/ports.html
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> ~~~
> WBR,
> Vitaliy Turovets
> Systems Administrator
> Corebug.Net
> +38(093)265-70-55
> VITU-RIPE
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>





I have installed PC-BSD on a netbook. I have not played around on it a
whole bunch, so I'm definitely not an expert. They really did a good job
with it, PC-BSD has a more compelling visual experience. For a novice
computer user it's a great way to have the experience of true Unix without
ending up resorting to angry language on the mailing lists. For more
experienced users it seems like it would be a robust platform for such as
scientific research, medical systems developers, manufacturing control,
process coordination and shop floor machine operation.

On my Eee Pc Netbook I had some difficulty with the X configuration tool,
which must be run in order to launch the desktop. I chose to install the
Xfce desktop suite of the several choices available in the selection. The
prompt display was pristine, yet the X test suffered some malfunction no
matter which setting I tried. When I was able to launch the desktop, the
display was off kilter and extremely difficult to navigate. This obstacle
was overcome by manually updating the X configuration file. There are
numerous resources available online for troubleshooting these kinds of
problems.

The system seems to be solid, so I'd be surprised if it offers the thrill
of compiling your own operating system. But there are compiling tools
available so one could presumably pull the source and do a build.

Building a PBI package does indeed seem to be much more involved than
making a package. A package build is straightforward and takes little
effort to create a Makefile in the case that your intended software does
not happen to already be in the ports collection. Also, the package system
offers a way to easily synchronize software updates across many machines.
After a package is built and verified on one machine it can
be rapidly transferred to machines in a large global cluster. I found the
idea intriguing as a method of creating 'system-safe' packages of
bleeding-edge development snapshots for experimentation.

The PBI requires more configuration, and as I understand creates larger
distribution files. However, the PBI package is designed to run
self-contained. Libraries which are not part of the standard system are
compacted into the PBI package, and are installed within the PBI
application jail. This could lend to increased application security, since
system files cannot be updated from the PBI install. A package system may
have full control of the system files.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California

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Hi,

I'm running a custom kernel so I (guess I) need svn in future to fetch
sources instead of cvsup. Should I still use portsnap then for ports or
also fetch them via svn?

Thanks, Helmut


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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:37:03 +0000 (UTC), Helmut Schneider wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running a custom kernel so I (guess I) need svn in future to fetch
> sources instead of cvsup. Should I still use portsnap then for ports or
> also fetch them via svn?

Ports and system sources are managed independently. You can
use whatever tool you want. Note that portsnap _might_ not
deliver the most current ports tree for a given point in
time. For "short time deltas", CVS has often proven to be
the better tool, but of course portsnap has significant
advantages (e. g. faster for longer pauses between ports
tree updates, better integration with "make update" target).
Depending on your updating habits, choose the tool that
works best for you.



-- 
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Polytropon wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:37:03 +0000 (UTC), Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm running a custom kernel so I (guess I) need svn in future to
> > fetch sources instead of cvsup. Should I still use portsnap then
> > for ports or also fetch them via svn?
> 
> Ports and system sources are managed independently. You can
> use whatever tool you want.

The question should read: If I need to install svn anyway, is there an
advantage of portsnap over svn to fetch ports.

> Note that portsnap might not deliver the most current ports tree
> for a given point in time. For "short time deltas", CVS has often
> proven to be the better tool, but of course portsnap has significant
> advantages (e. g. faster for longer pauses between ports
> tree updates, better integration with "make update" target).
> Depending on your updating habits, choose the tool that
> works best for you.

Currently I'm updating ports and src twice a day so I will keep using
svn for both.

Thanks.


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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 11:26:50 +0000 (UTC), Helmut Schneider wrote:
> Polytropon wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:37:03 +0000 (UTC), Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm running a custom kernel so I (guess I) need svn in future to
> > > fetch sources instead of cvsup. Should I still use portsnap then
> > > for ports or also fetch them via svn?
> > 
> > Ports and system sources are managed independently. You can
> > use whatever tool you want.
> 
> The question should read: If I need to install svn anyway, is there an
> advantage of portsnap over svn to fetch ports.

As I said, it depends. If you don't update regularly (in
short time spans), portsnap might be faster than SVN (to
incorporate all the deltas). If you feel comfortable with
this approach, you can keep using it. I don't see a general
advantage here.



> > Note that portsnap might not deliver the most current ports tree
> > for a given point in time. For "short time deltas", CVS has often
> > proven to be the better tool, but of course portsnap has significant
> > advantages (e. g. faster for longer pauses between ports
> > tree updates, better integration with "make update" target).
> > Depending on your updating habits, choose the tool that
> > works best for you.
> 
> Currently I'm updating ports and src twice a day so I will keep using
> svn for both.

Good choice, in that case you won't have any advantage using
portsnap as smaller amounts of deltas are no big deal when
using SVN (or traditional CVS).



-- 
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On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Helmut Schneider <jumper99@gmx.de> wrote:
> Currently I'm updating ports and src twice a day so I will keep using
> svn for both.

While you certainly can, isn't it a bit excessive to update so frequently?
Remember, it's not just fetching the sources and ports, you must also
compile world _and_ ports if you want to stay current. I highly doubt that
you want to do this twice a day, even on a very fast machine.

And if you don't compile twice a day, it may be better to keep sources
(and ports) with the installed binaries in sync. Just in case you need to
investigate security breaches or buggy programs -- then you'll be glad
to have the _corresponding_ sources available instead of some sources
for binaries you have not installed yet.

> Thanks.

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C. P. Ghost wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Helmut Schneider <jumper99@gmx.de>
> wrote:
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> > using svn for both.
> 
> While you certainly can, isn't it a bit excessive to update so
> frequently?  Remember, it's not just fetching the sources and ports,
> you must also compile world and ports if you want to stay current. I
> highly doubt that you want to do this twice a day, even on a very
> fast machine.

I meant I fetch sources for src and ports twice a day. While ports
helps me to track most recent changes src indeed might not require an
update twice a day.


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I'm porting existing code from Linux where a connect() to an AF_UNIX socket  
that exists, but does not have a listener, fails with ECONNREFUSED. This is  
quite agreeable with the comparable scenario in AF_INET, with a connection  
attempt to a port without a listener on it. So the same code handles both  
situations, immediately reporting an error, and without caring much about  
the type of the socket.

But on FreeBSD, according to truss, it seems that a connect() to an AF_UNIX  
socket without a listener still succeeds. A subsequent write() also  
succeeds, and read() blocks.

The fall-out is quite unfortunate, and I was hoping for a way to detect that  
my allegedly connected socket is lying to me, and it's not really connected  
to anything. How would I go about doing that? I tried using the  
LOCAL_CONNWAIT option as documented in unix(4), but that does not appear to  
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I added a label to my root fs some time ago. I really prefer the gpt
label and I have added it, but I can't figure out how to remove the
ufs label.

I boot single user and run 'tunefs -L "" /dev/ada1p2' but I get an
"unable to write superblock" error. This is before mounting the drive
RW, but it is, of course, mounted RO. I tried setting the "allow
foot-shooting" debug flag, but it did not help.

Is my only hope to boot a live system? (I have no CD, so I guess I
could try a a thumb drive.)
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Hi,

On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 17:47:43 -0700
Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com> wrote:

> I added a label to my root fs some time ago. I really prefer the gpt
> label and I have added it, but I can't figure out how to remove the
> ufs label.
> 
> I boot single user and run 'tunefs -L "" /dev/ada1p2' but I get an
> "unable to write superblock" error. This is before mounting the drive
> RW, but it is, of course, mounted RO. I tried setting the "allow
> foot-shooting" debug flag, but it did not help.
> 
> Is my only hope to boot a live system? (I have no CD, so I guess I
> could try a a thumb drive.)

as media size is growing, I started to make now every backup copy
bootable. Big devices get then the full FreeBSD system.

Erich

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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Kevin Oberman wrote:

> I added a label to my root fs some time ago. I really prefer the gpt
> label and I have added it, but I can't figure out how to remove the
> ufs label.
>
> I boot single user and run 'tunefs -L "" /dev/ada1p2' but I get an
> "unable to write superblock" error. This is before mounting the drive
> RW, but it is, of course, mounted RO.

This worked in a VM when I tested it just now.  Maybe running fsck on 
that filesystem first will help.

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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Warren Block wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
>> I added a label to my root fs some time ago. I really prefer the gpt
>> label and I have added it, but I can't figure out how to remove the
>> ufs label.
>> 
>> I boot single user and run 'tunefs -L "" /dev/ada1p2' but I get an
>> "unable to write superblock" error. This is before mounting the drive
>> RW, but it is, of course, mounted RO.
>
> This worked in a VM when I tested it just now.  Maybe running fsck on that 
> filesystem first will help.

Alternative thought: is ada1p2 actually a UFS filesystem?

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On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Warren Block wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>>
>>> I added a label to my root fs some time ago. I really prefer the gpt
>>> label and I have added it, but I can't figure out how to remove the
>>> ufs label.
>>>
>>> I boot single user and run 'tunefs -L "" /dev/ada1p2' but I get an
>>> "unable to write superblock" error. This is before mounting the drive
>>> RW, but it is, of course, mounted RO.
>>
>>
>> This worked in a VM when I tested it just now.  Maybe running fsck on that
>> filesystem first will help.

Already tried that.

I know I was able to label it originally, so it does seem like
something must have changed, but I don't know what. I did use gpart to
expand my /usr partition and then used growfs to expand the FS, but I
did nothing to root and I was able to remove the labels on all of the
other partitions.

> Alternative thought: is ada1p2 actually a UFS filesystem?

Well, the fact that it has a ufs label, fstab show ufs and fsck runs
fsck_ufs are strong hints.
2. Name: ada1p2
   Mediasize: 1073741824 (1.0G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 4096
   Stripeoffset: 0
   Mode: r1w1e2
   rawuuid: 43f0eafd-ba3a-11e0-b70a-f0def166a11e
   rawtype: 516e7cb6-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
   label: root
   length: 1073741824
   offset: 86016
   type: freebsd-ufs
   index: 2
   end: 2097319
   start: 168
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E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com

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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Kevin Oberman wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Warren Block wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I added a label to my root fs some time ago. I really prefer the gpt
>>>> label and I have added it, but I can't figure out how to remove the
>>>> ufs label.
>>>>
>>>> I boot single user and run 'tunefs -L "" /dev/ada1p2' but I get an
>>>> "unable to write superblock" error. This is before mounting the drive
>>>> RW, but it is, of course, mounted RO.
>>>
>>>
>>> This worked in a VM when I tested it just now.  Maybe running fsck on that
>>> filesystem first will help.
>
> Already tried that.
>
> I know I was able to label it originally, so it does seem like
> something must have changed, but I don't know what. I did use gpart to
> expand my /usr partition and then used growfs to expand the FS, but I
> did nothing to root and I was able to remove the labels on all of the
> other partitions.

Might there be a duplicate filesystem label of "root" on ada0 or another 
disk?

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On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Warren Block wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I added a label to my root fs some time ago. I really prefer the gpt
>>>>> label and I have added it, but I can't figure out how to remove the
>>>>> ufs label.
>>>>>
>>>>> I boot single user and run 'tunefs -L "" /dev/ada1p2' but I get an
>>>>> "unable to write superblock" error. This is before mounting the drive
>>>>> RW, but it is, of course, mounted RO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This worked in a VM when I tested it just now.  Maybe running fsck on
>>>> that
>>>> filesystem first will help.
>>
>>
>> Already tried that.
>>
>> I know I was able to label it originally, so it does seem like
>> something must have changed, but I don't know what. I did use gpart to
>> expand my /usr partition and then used growfs to expand the FS, but I
>> did nothing to root and I was able to remove the labels on all of the
>> other partitions.
>
>
> Might there be a duplicate filesystem label of "root" on ada0 or another
> disk?

No joy. I checked all ufs partitions and none are "root" except for
/dev/ada1p2. All partitions on ada0 are ntfs. (It's my Windows disk.)

But, thanks for trying, Warren. I appreciate it.
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
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Hello,

I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch:
http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch

What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that only
about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I was
wondering why it didn't take the whole 4GB up to the crash of the server
because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).

Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more then
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On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 08:10:51PM +0200, carlopmart typed:
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>  I have installed opensmtpd on my FreeBSD 8.3. All works ok, except I 
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> aliases, but smtpd sends all emails using the first IP.
> 
>  Is it possible to configure this?? I have tried to fix with hostname 
> option, without result ...

You could run smtpd inside a jail(8) with that IP address.

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Sam Varshavchik <mrsam <at> courier-mta.com> writes:

> 
> I'm porting existing code from Linux where a connect() to an AF_UNIX socket  
> that exists, but does not have a listener, fails with ECONNREFUSED. This is  
> quite agreeable with the comparable scenario in AF_INET, with a connection  
> attempt to a port without a listener on it. So the same code handles both  
> situations, immediately reporting an error, and without caring much about  
> the type of the socket.
> 
> But on FreeBSD, according to truss, it seems that a connect() to an AF_UNIX  
> socket without a listener still succeeds. A subsequent write() also  
> succeeds, and read() blocks.
> 
> The fall-out is quite unfortunate, and I was hoping for a way to detect that  
> my allegedly connected socket is lying to me, and it's not really connected  
> to anything. How would I go about doing that? I tried using the  
> LOCAL_CONNWAIT option as documented in unix(4), but that does not appear to  
> make any difference, in this situation.
> 
> 

It seems to work here:
$ uname -a
... FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 #0 ...

$ ls -al /tmp/server 
srwxr-xr-x  1 jb  wheel  0 Sep 10 14:22 /tmp/server
$ ps auxww |grep -i server-af_unix
$ ./client-af_unix 
client af_unix: connect() errno = 61
connect() failed: No such file or directory
$ grep 61 /usr/include/errno.h
#define	ECONNREFUSED	61		/* Connection refused */
$

Client code:
...
      rc = connect(sd, (struct sockaddr *)&serveraddr, SUN_LEN(&serveraddr));
      if (rc < 0)
      {
         printf("client af_unix: connect() errno = %d\n", errno);
         perror("connect() failed");
...

jb



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On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Pierre-Luc Drouin <pldrouin@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> so I have been having problems using portsnap lately. I always get a "Bad
> file descriptor" message when trying using it on one of my i386 machine:
>
> Looking up portsnap5.freebsd.org mirrors... none found.
> Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.freebsd.org... done.
> Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
> Fetching snapshot generated at Mon Sep  3 20:04:44 EDT 2012:
> 86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb949  0% of   67 MB    0  Bps
> fetch:
> http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz:
> Bad file descriptor
> fetch:
> 86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz: Bad
> file descriptor
>
> I tried fsck -y the /var, /tmp and /usr partitions and everything seems
> fine. What could the problem be?
>
> Thanks!
>

Hi,

Anyone has an idea about what could be causing this problem?

Thank you!

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Hi,

it seems that the ftp2.ca.freebsd.org mirror has not been updating since
August 3rd. At least this is the case for the files in
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-9

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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Ruben de Groot <mail25@bzerk.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 08:10:51PM +0200, carlopmart typed:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  I have installed opensmtpd on my FreeBSD 8.3. All works ok, except I
>> can't bind smtpd to specific IP address ... In this box, I am using 3 ip
>> aliases, but smtpd sends all emails using the first IP.
>>
>>  Is it possible to configure this?? I have tried to fix with hostname
>> option, without result ...
>
> You could run smtpd inside a jail(8) with that IP address.
>
> --

Yes it is an option, but too fat option ... This is a vm under ESXi
with only 512 MB RAM ...

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:56:29 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Pierre-Luc Drouin <pldrouin@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > so I have been having problems using portsnap lately. I always get a "Bad
> > file descriptor" message when trying using it on one of my i386 machine:
> >
> > Looking up portsnap5.freebsd.org mirrors... none found.
> > Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.freebsd.org... done.
> > Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
> > Fetching snapshot generated at Mon Sep  3 20:04:44 EDT 2012:
> > 86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb949  0% of   67 MB    0  Bps
> > fetch:
> > http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz:
> > Bad file descriptor
> > fetch:
> > 86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz: Bad
> > file descriptor
> >
> > I tried fsck -y the /var, /tmp and /usr partitions and everything seems
> > fine. What could the problem be?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anyone has an idea about what could be causing this problem?

I'm not familiar enough with portsnap (I use CVS) so I can just
throw some guesses around:

The message "Bad file descriptor" is issued by fetch and seems
to be for _your_ side of the connection, and I assume it is
regarding the place where the requested file will be fetched
to. I don't exactly know _where_ that is. It could be in
the ports tree or in a temporary location (from where the
results are then written to /usr/ports). The manpage mentions
a default workdir of /var/db/portsnap which is on the /var
partition. You checked that, no errors.

Just check what /var/db/portsnap contains. In worst case,
remove portsnap/ and recreate that directory. I have no
idea what it is supposed to contain, maybe make a copy of
it. You could also try to manually create the file, e. g.
by issuing

	# touch /var/db/portsnap/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz

Look if the file is there. Use

	# stat /var/db/portsnap/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz

to check if everything is okay.

You could also try to manually fetch the file using fetch or
maybe even wget, just to see if it can be downloaded and
written properly, to a different location, e. g.

	# cd /tmp
	# fetch http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz

or

	# cd /tmp
	# wget http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz

That should be _no_ problem (with the correct file name of course).

Again, "Bad file descriptor" is often seen in relation to file
system trouble. I've seen that in the past myself.




-- 
Polytropon
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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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Hi,

Yes, files are written to the /var filesystem. I have tried fetching the
file manually and I have even tried to newfs the partition again and to
copy the files back. I also tried to delete the portsnap directory
completely. None of this fixed the error. Note that I access the web
through a proxy, but I tried untaring the file
86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz<http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz>and
I did not get any error from tar, so I guess the file I got is not
corrupted.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:56:29 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Pierre-Luc Drouin <pldrouin@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > so I have been having problems using portsnap lately. I always get a
> "Bad
> > > file descriptor" message when trying using it on one of my i386
> machine:
> > >
> > > Looking up portsnap5.freebsd.org mirrors... none found.
> > > Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap5.freebsd.org... done.
> > > Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
> > > Fetching snapshot generated at Mon Sep  3 20:04:44 EDT 2012:
> > > 86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb949  0% of   67 MB    0  Bps
> > > fetch:
> > >
> http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz
> :
> > > Bad file descriptor
> > > fetch:
> > > 86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz:
> Bad
> > > file descriptor
> > >
> > > I tried fsck -y the /var, /tmp and /usr partitions and everything seems
> > > fine. What could the problem be?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anyone has an idea about what could be causing this problem?
>
> I'm not familiar enough with portsnap (I use CVS) so I can just
> throw some guesses around:
>
> The message "Bad file descriptor" is issued by fetch and seems
> to be for _your_ side of the connection, and I assume it is
> regarding the place where the requested file will be fetched
> to. I don't exactly know _where_ that is. It could be in
> the ports tree or in a temporary location (from where the
> results are then written to /usr/ports). The manpage mentions
> a default workdir of /var/db/portsnap which is on the /var
> partition. You checked that, no errors.
>
> Just check what /var/db/portsnap contains. In worst case,
> remove portsnap/ and recreate that directory. I have no
> idea what it is supposed to contain, maybe make a copy of
> it. You could also try to manually create the file, e. g.
> by issuing
>
>         # touch
> /var/db/portsnap/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz
>
> Look if the file is there. Use
>
>         # stat
> /var/db/portsnap/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz
>
> to check if everything is okay.
>
> You could also try to manually fetch the file using fetch or
> maybe even wget, just to see if it can be downloaded and
> written properly, to a different location, e. g.
>
>         # cd /tmp
>         # fetch
> http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz
>
> or
>
>         # cd /tmp
>         # wget
> http://portsnap5.freebsd.org/s/86abb3c6f24b24e7fdadda42805f9ae38f487177dcb9493f5e0cb4f792490b2f.tgz
>
> That should be _no_ problem (with the correct file name of course).
>
> Again, "Bad file descriptor" is often seen in relation to file
> system trouble. I've seen that in the past myself.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Polytropon
> Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
>

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Hi,
Reference:
> From:		Pierre-Luc Drouin <pldrouin@gmail.com> 
> Date:		Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:13:27 -0400 
> Message-id:	<CANT0rcsX6NDMF4zgd8G8LdNZwa+MG3RfofJCAn_qJPze-aRPPg@mail.gmail.com> 

Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it seems that the ftp2.ca.freebsd.org mirror has not been updating since
> August 3rd. At least this is the case for the files in
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/src-9

To find who is ftp master for that domain,
try contacting probably in this order eg
	ftp@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org
	ftp-bugs@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org
	ftpmaster@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org		(*)
	root@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org
	hostmaster@ftp2.ca.freebsd.org
	ftp@ca.freebsd.org
	ftp-bugs@ca.freebsd.org
	ftpmaster@ca.freebsd.org		(*)
	root@ca.freebsd.org
	hostmaster@ca.freebsd.org

	See also (from 8.3-release/src/etc/mail/aliases )
		RFC 2142, `MAILBOX NAMES FOR COMMON SERVICES, ROLES
		AND FUNCTIONS', May 1997
		http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2142

	(*) ftpmaster@ is not normal, far as I know, but I added
	it to my domains to be analagous to webmaster@ so maybe
	others do similar)

Alternately & probably less usefuly there is a list for discussions,
(not error reports such as this) for all global FreeBSD mirror admins
You can find it via mailman, but that will get you lots of other admins
who aren't responsible for the server you want to report,

In case your admin is on holiday, or otherwise absent, try top @
addresses first, cos if that admin. is on hol, their stand in
colleague may be getting a copy of their host error mails, but not
a copy of freebsd subscription mails.

Cheers,
Julian
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Thank you very much for the quick reply.
Can you please point me to the link where I can download the /usr/src
tarball to download the code.

Thank you again.


On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Patrick Lamaiziere <patfbsd@davenulle.org>w=
rote:

> Le Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:46:53 +0530,
> SivaReddy Obili <sivareddy.obili@gmail.com> a =E9crit :
>
> Hello,
>
> > Recently I've downloaded the FreeBSD 8.3 Release ISO Image
> > (FreeBSD-8.3-RELEASE-i386-dvd1 (1).iso) and installed in our machine.
> > Actually our requirement is to check the TCP MD5 support on
> > FreeBSD8.3 .
> >
> > But we were not able to configure BGP MD5 on that machine.
>
> I've used TCP-MD5 signature for bgp between a FreeBSD 8.x and OpenBSD,
> using setkey(8) to enforce the signature between the peers. That
> worked (of course, then you shouldn't use tcp-md5 in openbgd).
>
> setkey(8):
> add -4 peer1 peer2 tcp 0x1000 -A tcp-md5 "PASSWORD";
> add -4 peer2 peer1 tcp 0x1000 -A tcp-md5 "PASSWORD";
>
> kernconf:
> # In order to enable IPSEC you MUST also add device crypto to
> # your kernel configuration
> options IPSEC  #IP security (requires device crypto)
> device  crypto
> options TCP_SIGNATURE #include support for RFC 2385
>
> You should check that the signature is checked (ie if the signature is
> bad, bgpd rejects the connection), I've not test this.
>
> HTH.
> Regards.
>

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	mhonarc is a mime message archiver that is used with nmh
and possibly other applications. I used pkg_add -r mhonarc to
install it on a new system I was building and then discovered
that attempts to reply to messages produced no quoted output and
a spew of perl warnings about "defined" being deprecated. The
messages tell you what line and in what application the
offending directives live and one must then edit out the word
defined from those lines.

	The current port of mhonarc, however, is fine so I first
did make deinstall in the /usr/ports/www/mhonarc directory and
then did make install from the port and things are now perking
along nicely.

	If there is a better place to send this message, I will
certainly be glad to send it. All somebody needs to do is create
the mhonarc.tbz package from the most current port for both 32
and 64-bit systems. Who knows; I may be the only one in the
world who is still using nmh, but it is useful when you want
scripts to send mail, etc.

Martin McCormick

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Enviorment is FreeBSD 8.3,  i386

I'm currently running a stipped-down custom kernal with all superfluous 
devices/options removed.

I'm trying to add the 'ndis' device back in, but when I follow the directions
on the ndis(4) manpage, and add:
    options NDISAPI
    device  ndis
and try to re-compile the kernel (config, cd, make depend, make), linking 
fails, with:
    if_ndis.o(.text+0x1104): In function 'ndis_detach':
    : undefined reference to 'ndis_free_amem'
    if_ndis.o(.text+0x1194): In function 'ndis_attach':
    : undefined reference to 'ndis_alloc_amem'

Obviously, the config file is missing 'something'  -- does anybody have
any ideat _what_ that something is?



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> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:32:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: trouble building 'ndis' device driver into stripped-down custom kernel.
> From: Gardner Bell <gardnerbell@gmail.com>
>
> On 10 September 2012 15:23, Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Enviorment is FreeBSD 8.3,  i386
> >
> > I'm currently running a stipped-down custom kernal with all superfluous 
> > devices/options removed.
> >
> > I'm trying to add the 'ndis' device back in, but when I follow the 
> > directions on the ndis(4) manpage, and add:
> >     options NDISAPI device  ndis
>
> Is device wlan still part of your config ?

Yup. I'm just changing which wireless card I'm using.

Thanks for the thought.

> > and try to re-compile the kernel (config, cd, make depend, make), 
> > linking fails, with:
> >     if_ndis.o(.text+0x1104): In function 'ndis_detach':
> >     : undefined reference to 'ndis_free_amem'
> >     if_ndis.o(.text+0x1194): In function 'ndis_attach':
> >     : undefined reference to 'ndis_alloc_amem'
> >
> > Obviously, the config file is missing 'something'  -- does anybody have 
> > any ideat _what_ that something is?




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Hello,

I am thinking about creating a port for SOGo[1]. Is there already someone working on it?

Kind regards,
Matthias


[1] http://www.sogo.nu/english.html

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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:55:22PM +0200, Matthias Petermann wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I am thinking about creating a port for SOGo[1]. Is there already someone=
 working on it?
>=20
> Kind regards,
> Matthias
>=20
>=20
> [1] http://www.sogo.nu/english.html
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I have done:=20
http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/sogo.tar.gz
and
http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/sope.tar.gz
One year ago.

I have given up working on it :)
Feel free to use it, or start from scratch.

Regards,
Bapt

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After a upgrading to 15, and subsequently firefox-15.0.1,1 this morning, 
all menus (menu bar, right click context menu, etc) have a fully 
transparent background rendering it nearly useless.  I've tried starting 
with a new profile and that doesn't fix it as well as with qt4/gtk2 to 
now avail.  The system is running kde-4.8.4 desktop.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix?  I was planning to migrate to 
chrome anyway but would like to have a functional firefox.  The last 
14.x release in the ports tree worked fine.

-Kelsey

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(This is probably a bit techical for 'questions' -- I'd welcome a suggesstion
of a more appopriae forum.)

Is there a detailed description anywhere of the mechanics of *how* config(8) 
does what it doess?

I'm looking fo the gory detail of how, sayi, 'device bpf' causes the
creation of the file 'opt_bpf.h' containing '#define DEV_BPF 1"

_Part_ of the magic is the sys/conf/files* and sys/conf/options* files,
but their format/content isn't defined anywhee I've found.


rerason for asking -- I want to addd a cutom device driver into the
kernel.  I have sources, and can build the .o,   if i convert it to
a .ko, it loads and run.  *BUT* I want to embed it in the kernel at
build time.

"Somewhere", I have do define 'device foo', specify that that name
adds 'myfoo_sys.o' to the kernel object-files list, and that 
myfoo_sys.o depends on a list of source files, and requires a 
particular sequence of commands to build from those shources.

I know the 'what', just not the 'where' or 'how'.

Any pointers appreciated.




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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>wrote:

>
> Enviorment is FreeBSD 8.3,  i386
>
> I'm currently running a stipped-down custom kernal with all superfluous
> devices/options removed.
>
> I'm trying to add the 'ndis' device back in, but when I follow the
> directions
> on the ndis(4) manpage, and add:
>     options NDISAPI
>     device  ndis
> and try to re-compile the kernel (config, cd, make depend, make), linking
> fails, with:
>     if_ndis.o(.text+0x1104): In function 'ndis_detach':
>     : undefined reference to 'ndis_free_amem'
>     if_ndis.o(.text+0x1194): In function 'ndis_attach':
>     : undefined reference to 'ndis_alloc_amem'
>
> Obviously, the config file is missing 'something'  -- does anybody have
> any ideat _what_ that something is?
>
>
It seems you need

device pccard

and whatever that depends upon if anything.

Another solution is here:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/042586.html

although it seems only lines 1083/4 need to go in my version.

-- 
Adam Vande More

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This is now solved after an update to pecl-APC-3.1.13




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On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:37:03 +0000 (UTC), Helmut Schneider wrote:
> Hi,

> I'm running a custom kernel so I (guess I) need svn in future to fetch
> sources instead of cvsup. Should I still use portsnap then for ports or
> also fetch them via svn?

Polytropon responded:

> Ports and system sources are managed independently. You can
> use whatever tool you want. Note that portsnap _might_ not
> deliver the most current ports tree for a given point in
> time. For "short time deltas", CVS has often proven to be
> the better tool, but of course portsnap has significant
> advantages (e. g. faster for longer pauses between ports
> tree updates, better integration with "make update" target).
> Depending on your updating habits, choose the tool that
> works best for you.

One question comes up that I didn't think of immediately.

How do you use svn on a fresh install of FreeBSD, no ports yet?

svn/subversion is not part of the base system.

How do you get the ports tree or svn in that case if not using portsnap?

Tom

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Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Robert Bonomi 
> <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > Enviorment is FreeBSD 8.3,  i386
> >
> > I'm currently running a stipped-down custom kernal with all superfluous 
> > devices/options removed.
> >
> > I'm trying to add the 'ndis' device back in, but when I follow the 
> > directions on the ndis(4) manpage, and add:
> >     options NDISAPI device  ndis and try to re-compile the kernel 
> >     (config, cd, make depend, make), linking fails, with: 
> >     if_ndis.o(.text+0x1104): In function 'ndis_detach':
> >     : undefined reference to 'ndis_free_amem'
> >     if_ndis.o(.text+0x1194): In function 'ndis_attach':
> >     : undefined reference to 'ndis_alloc_amem'
> >
> > Obviously, the config file is missing 'something'  -- does anybody have 
> > any ideat _what_ that something is?
> >
> >
> It seems you need
>
> device pccard
>
> and whatever that depends upon if anything.

This was also pointed out to me privately by another respondant.

Adding just  'device pccard'  did solve the problem.

I've filed a bug report on the code in question -- the _run-time_ check
for a PCMCIA/Cardbus/PC-card device should be bracketed with a COMPILE-TIME
check for pccard support in the kernel.  



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> How do you get the ports tree or svn in that case if not using portsnap?

You use pkg_add (or the youngest newcomer pkg)


-- 
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Thomas Mueller wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:37:03 +0000 (UTC), Helmut Schneider wrote:
> > Hi,
> 
> > I'm running a custom kernel so I (guess I) need svn in future to
> > fetch sources instead of cvsup. Should I still use portsnap then
> > for ports or also fetch them via svn?
> 
> Polytropon responded:
> 
> > Ports and system sources are managed independently. You can
> > use whatever tool you want. Note that portsnap might not
> > deliver the most current ports tree for a given point in
> > time. For "short time deltas", CVS has often proven to be
> > the better tool, but of course portsnap has significant
> > advantages (e. g. faster for longer pauses between ports
> > tree updates, better integration with "make update" target).
> > Depending on your updating habits, choose the tool that
> > works best for you.
> 
> One question comes up that I didn't think of immediately.
> 
> How do you use svn on a fresh install of FreeBSD, no ports yet?

You install ports from CD/DVD. Or use pkg_add -r subversion. :)

> svn/subversion is not part of the base system.
> 
> How do you get the ports tree or svn in that case if not using
> portsnap?

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/


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On 11/09/2012 01:30, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> (This is probably a bit techical for 'questions' -- I'd welcome a suggesstion
> of a more appopriae forum.)
If you dont get any joy, try freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org


Vince
> Is there a detailed description anywhere of the mechanics of *how* config(8) 
> does what it doess?
>
> I'm looking fo the gory detail of how, sayi, 'device bpf' causes the
> creation of the file 'opt_bpf.h' containing '#define DEV_BPF 1"
>
> _Part_ of the magic is the sys/conf/files* and sys/conf/options* files,
> but their format/content isn't defined anywhee I've found.
>
>
> rerason for asking -- I want to addd a cutom device driver into the
> kernel.  I have sources, and can build the .o,   if i convert it to
> a .ko, it loads and run.  *BUT* I want to embed it in the kernel at
> build time.
>
> "Somewhere", I have do define 'device foo', specify that that name
> adds 'myfoo_sys.o' to the kernel object-files list, and that 
> myfoo_sys.o depends on a list of source files, and requires a 
> particular sequence of commands to build from those shources.
>
> I know the 'what', just not the 'where' or 'how'.
>
> Any pointers appreciated.
>
>
>
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Hi,

After upgrading from 7.3 o 8.3 pam_ldap stopped working.

LDAP server has been running on a different machine for ages, it is
still running.

Connection to the server is still there: when I enter a wrong password
I get a distinct error message.

When I enter the correct password, I get: 

  Sep 11 18:05:00 ufo2 login: pam_acct_mgmt(): error in service module

I recompiled openldap_client, pam_ldap and nss_ldap, but not to avail.

Any help is most welcome.

Best regards,

Olivier

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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:15:24 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> One question comes up that I didn't think of immediately.
> 
> How do you use svn on a fresh install of FreeBSD, no ports yet?
> 
> svn/subversion is not part of the base system.
> 
> How do you get the ports tree or svn in that case if not using portsnap?

As this is an O(1) kind of problem, I'd suggest the easiest
way: Use the package for svn. Install svn via

	# pkg_add -r svn

(or however the svn package is called) and then use it to
incorporate the full ports tree (and maybe also bring your
OS sources to the branch you want, patched RELEASE, STABLE
or HEAD).

Afterwards, upgrade svn with the version from the ports tree
which will possibly be newer. Then continue using ports to
install software as usual.

When CVS was not part of the OS, I went the same way by
installing cvsup-without-x11 (or how the package was called)
to be able to update ports and sources via CVS. Today this
is not needed anymore, as CVS (as csup) is part of the OS.



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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:15:50 +0200, suseuser04@lajt.hu wrote:
> Hello FreeBSD users:
> 
> I am new to FreeBSD. I've been using openSUSE for 8 years but would
> like to try something different.
> I have installed FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE from DVD and configured
> KDE3. I also configured DSL (pppoe) connection that automatically
> connects the computer to the network.
> In openSUSE I have kinternet (and its alternative qinternet), an application
> which incorporates into KDE system tray and indicates whether network
> connection is active or not. It can also be used by the desktop user to
> disconnect and connect from/to the network (eg. for getting new dynamic
> IP address or test downloaded web pages offline).
> Is there a similar program in FreeBSD? I could not find kinternet or qinternet
> in ports database or by googling.

I'm not aware of a tool that integrates both with KDE _and_
the FreeBSD operating system. KDE is quite Linux-centric,
and FreeBSD is a different operating system. A PPPoE
connection can be controlled via userland ppp tools
(e. g. "ppp> dial" by the user) to control the connection.
And checking the connectivity of the respective interface
should also be possible. So it might be that there is some
KDE component that can help. Maybe kppp? As I've never
really used KDE for such things, sorry... I can't provide
better suggestions.

However, there was some tool mainly aiming at wireless LAN
use which was considered an abomination. I sadly cannot
remember its name... networkmanager???



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El día Tuesday, September 11, 2012 a las 02:56:07PM +0200, Polytropon escribió:

> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:15:50 +0200, suseuser04@lajt.hu wrote:
> > Hello FreeBSD users:
> > 
> > I am new to FreeBSD. I've been using openSUSE for 8 years but would
> > like to try something different.
> > I have installed FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE from DVD and configured
> > KDE3. I also configured DSL (pppoe) connection that automatically
> > connects the computer to the network.
> > In openSUSE I have kinternet (and its alternative qinternet), an application
> > which incorporates into KDE system tray and indicates whether network
> > connection is active or not. It can also be used by the desktop user to
> > disconnect and connect from/to the network (eg. for getting new dynamic
> > IP address or test downloaded web pages offline).
> > Is there a similar program in FreeBSD? I could not find kinternet or qinternet
> > in ports database or by googling.
> 
> I'm not aware of a tool that integrates both with KDE _and_
> the FreeBSD operating system. KDE is quite Linux-centric,
> and FreeBSD is a different operating system. ...

FreeBSD (as Linux) is a OS, while KDE is just a desktop which works fine
on FreeBSD and SuSE; I'm using kde-3.5.10 and tested kde-4.x (which
did not do what I expected; that's why I stay with 3.5.10 which is now
unmaintained, but still compiling as a port;

the OP did not say in which KDE version he used 'kinternet',  but it
seems that the component is not in the port; the best way would be to
check in openSUSE what 'kinternet' is (i.e. where the sources come from)
and check in the FreeBSD KDE project the status of a port;

	matthias
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[HEADS UP] merging projects/pf into head

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Some good news:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pf/2012-September/006740.html

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> I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch
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> What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that only
> about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I was
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> because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).
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> Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more then
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limits(1)?

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I have an SSD driver, rather new, and "camcontrol identify" reports it
supports data set management (TRIM).

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BSD labes a and b with geli providers. On these geli providers I did
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Does the trim BIO_DELETE commands fall thru to the SSD, if the
filesystem decides a sector inside the geli provider is free to be reused?

In short: does UFS -t and thus BIO_DELETE work with geli as expected?

I have checked dmesg but did not catch any errors, so I have no way of
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I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
got files that are decades old... 

tx, guys.

gary



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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> got files that are decades old... 

Maybe it's possible to tar the directory (without
compression of course) and obtain a checksum of
the tar archive?

	% tar cf - <director> | cksum

But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
like

	% cksum <directory>

and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
different result was printed.

Tested on OS version 8.2-STABLE/i386, one year old.


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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > 
> > I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> > ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> > them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> > got files that are decades old... 
> 
> Maybe it's possible to tar the directory (without
> compression of course) and obtain a checksum of
> the tar archive?
> 
> 	% tar cf - <director> | cksum
> 
> But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> like
> 
> 	% cksum <directory>
> 
> and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> different result was printed.
> 
> Tested on OS version 8.2-STABLE/i386, one year old.
> 


	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
	I think I did

	% cksum foodir/*

	and had to compare each file from another file I was copying from.
	it was tiresome to check each of dozens of files tho. I was here at 
	desk for something obscene -- over 12 hrs. getting my new [slightly
	used:)] computer back to normal.  

	if there isn't anything that can compare entire dirs, it looks like
	it's time to hack a small program.  tx, polyt.

	gary


> 
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:24:08 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> > > ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> > > them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> > > got files that are decades old... 
> > 
> > Maybe it's possible to tar the directory (without
> > compression of course) and obtain a checksum of
> > the tar archive?
> > 
> > 	% tar cf - <director> | cksum
> > 
> > But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> > like
> > 
> > 	% cksum <directory>
> > 
> > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > different result was printed.
> > 
> > Tested on OS version 8.2-STABLE/i386, one year old.
> > 
> 
> 
> 	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> 	I think I did
> 
> 	% cksum foodir/*

That lets the shell expand * to the content of foodir, making
a final command line like "cksum foodir/file1 foodir/file2"
and so on. If you omit the /* part, the directory will be
checksummed entirely. If you then remove a file or change
it, a different checksum will be printed. At least that is
my interpretation of what I've tested.



> 	if there isn't anything that can compare entire dirs, it looks like
> 	it's time to hack a small program.  tx, polyt.

The Midnight Commander has a function to compare directories
which will also identify _which_ files have changed (unlike
the command "cksum foodir" that will tell you _that_ a file
has been changed) and use the "mark file" function to highlight
those files. It can be accessed by putting one directory into
the left, the other one into the right panel, and then F9 C C
(or Ctrl-X D). You are then presented a selection:

	+---------------- Compare directories -----------------+
	| Select compare method:                               |
	|                                                      |
	|  [ Quick ]  [ Size only ]  [ Thorough ]  [ Cancel ]  |
	+------------------------------------------------------+

Quick = file names, Size only = file sizes, Thorough = file
content.



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On 9/11/2012 7:48 PM, Polytropon wrote:
>
> 	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> 	I think I did
>
> 	% cksum foodir/*
> That lets the shell expand * to the content of foodir, making
> a final command line like "cksum foodir/file1 foodir/file2"
> and so on. If you omit the /* part, the directory will be
> checksummed entirely. If you then remove a file or change
> it, a different checksum will be printed. At least that is
> my interpretation of what I've tested.


I think that command checksums the *directory block*, not the same
as a combined checksum of all the files, and probably not useful for
verifying if all files have been copied/moved correctly to a
different directory.


> The Midnight Commander has a function to compare directories
> which will also identify _which_ files have changed (unlike

Yes, much more promising.



  -- Noel Jones

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:24:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> > > ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> > > them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> > > got files that are decades old... 
> > 
> > Maybe it's possible to tar the directory (without
> > compression of course) and obtain a checksum of
> > the tar archive?
> > 
> > 	% tar cf - <director> | cksum
> > 
> > But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> > like
> > 
> > 	% cksum <directory>
> > 
> > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > different result was printed.
> > 
> > Tested on OS version 8.2-STABLE/i386, one year old.
> > 
> 
> 
> 	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> 	I think I did
> 
> 	% cksum foodir/*
> 
> 	and had to compare each file from another file I was copying from.
> 	it was tiresome to check each of dozens of files tho. I was here at 
> 	desk for something obscene -- over 12 hrs. getting my new [slightly
> 	used:)] computer back to normal.  
> 
> 	if there isn't anything that can compare entire dirs, it looks like
> 	it's time to hack a small program.  tx, polyt.
> 
> 	gary
> 
> 
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This works for me:

$ find foo/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5 >> foo.md5

Maybe for you as well? Hope I could help.

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:48:54AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:24:08 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> > > > ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> > > > them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> > > > got files that are decades old... 
> > > 
> > > Maybe it's possible to tar the directory (without
> > > compression of course) and obtain a checksum of
> > > the tar archive?
> > > 
> > > 	% tar cf - <director> | cksum
> > > 
> > > But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> > > like
> > > 
> > > 	% cksum <directory>
> > > 
> > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > different result was printed.
> > > 
> > > Tested on OS version 8.2-STABLE/i386, one year old.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> > 	I think I did
> > 
> > 	% cksum foodir/*
> 
> That lets the shell expand * to the content of foodir, making
> a final command line like "cksum foodir/file1 foodir/file2"
> and so on. If you omit the /* part, the directory will be
> checksummed entirely. If you then remove a file or change
> it, a different checksum will be printed. At least that is
> my interpretation of what I've tested.
> 
> 
> 
> > 	if there isn't anything that can compare entire dirs, it looks like
> > 	it's time to hack a small program.  tx, polyt.
> 
> The Midnight Commander has a function to compare directories
> which will also identify _which_ files have changed (unlike
> the command "cksum foodir" that will tell you _that_ a file
> has been changed) and use the "mark file" function to highlight
> those files. It can be accessed by putting one directory into
> the left, the other one into the right panel, and then F9 C C
> (or Ctrl-X D). You are then presented a selection:
> 
> 	+---------------- Compare directories -----------------+
> 	| Select compare method:                               |
> 	|                                                      |
> 	|  [ Quick ]  [ Size only ]  [ Thorough ]  [ Cancel ]  |
> 	+------------------------------------------------------+
> 
> Quick = file names, Size only = file sizes, Thorough = file
> content.
> 


	I'm not concerned about a file having been changed, just whether

	   % cp -rp /home/klinebak/foodir   /home/kline/

	is 100% reliable.  down to the bit!  a friend has volunteered
	to take over my system admin chores.  he left my drive fragmented 
	and while I am going over /home/klinebak with extreme caution--
	getting rid of dross while coping everything valid to my new 
	/home/ dir.  im hoping that the cp utility is flawless and/or 
	that the drive to this duo/dual-CPU computer is good.   I'm 
	buying a new Dell 4-CPU new.  Should have everything setup in a
	couple weeks.  Oh, and in addition to klinebak, there are 
	fragments of my backup systems all over the place.

	Higgsbo, give me strength!
> 
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:18 PM,  <kpneal@pobox.com> wrote:

> It's a real shame Unix doesn't have a really good tool for comparing
> two directory trees. You can use 'diff -r' (even on binaries), but that
> fails if you have devices, named pipes, or named sockets in the
> filesystem. And diff or cksum don't tell you if symlinks are different.
> Plus you may care about file ownership, and that's where the stat
> command comes in handy.

Solaris and a least a few versions of Linux have a "dircmp" command
that is in reality a wrapper for diff that handles special files. The
problem with it is that it tends to be slow (I had to validate
millions of files).

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>         I'm not concerned about a file having been changed, just whether
>
>            % cp -rp /home/klinebak/foodir   /home/kline/
>
>         is 100% reliable.  down to the bit!

If "cp" is not reliable (down to the bit), then you have much bigger problems.

    On the other hand, hard drives do have uncorrectable errors and
they report the read operation as valid even though they returned bad
data. That is part of why ZFS was created and ported to FreeBSD, it
checksums the data so a bad bit coming from a drive does not corrupt a
file.

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As long as you are not moving files across mount points, you could always do something
like this:

    cd $SOURCE_DIR && find . -print | cpio -dplm $DEST_DIR
    rm -rf $SOURCE_DIR

That will create hard links from one directory to the other so you don't have to worry
about any file corruption since the data is never actually moved around on the disk.  It
should also be a whole lot faster than actually moving or copying the data and you don't
have to worry about running out of disk space half way through a copy.

-M


On 12-09-11 3:38 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
> I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> got files that are decades old... 
>
> tx, guys.
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Paul Kraus <paul@kraus-haus.org> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:18 PM,  <kpneal@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a real shame Unix doesn't have a really good tool for comparing
>> two directory trees. You can use 'diff -r' (even on binaries), but that
>> fails if you have devices, named pipes, or named sockets in the
>> filesystem. And diff or cksum don't tell you if symlinks are different.
>> Plus you may care about file ownership, and that's where the stat
>> command comes in handy.
>
> Solaris and a least a few versions of Linux have a "dircmp" command
> that is in reality a wrapper for diff that handles special files. The
> problem with it is that it tends to be slow (I had to validate
> millions of files).

It's not clear what the danger profile is supposed to be here; dircmp
(and recursing 'diff' applications) can handle many cases, but mtree(8)
(with appropriate options) covers more pathological problems. Even so,
analysis of changes in file nodes like named sockets will usually
require some understanding of the application.

I suspect that either a recursive diff or an mtree specification is a
good solution for the original poster's problem, but we don't have
enough information to be more sure than that.

Be well.
        Lowell

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> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:24:08 -0700
> From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> Subject: Re: cksum entire dir??
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> > > ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> > > them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> > > got files that are decades old... 
> > 
> > Maybe it's possible to tar the directory (without
> > compression of course) and obtain a checksum of
> > the tar archive?
> > 
> > 	% tar cf - <director> | cksum
> > 
> > But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> > like
> > 
> > 	% cksum <directory>
> > 
> > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > different result was printed.
> > 
> > Tested on OS version 8.2-STABLE/i386, one year old.
> > 
>
>
> 	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> 	I think I did
>
> 	% cksum foodir/*
>
> 	and had to compare each file from another file I was copying from.
> 	it was tiresome to check each of dozens of files tho. I was here at 
> 	desk for something obscene -- over 12 hrs. getting my new [slightly
> 	used:)] computer back to normal.  

If you'd say _what_ you are trying to accomplish, as distinct from
_how_ you are attempting to do things,  people might be able to 
suggest a "sensible" answer.

Taking what you asked _literally_, 'tar . -cf - | cksum' answers the question.
Although 'find . -exec cat {} \; | cksum' may be closer.

However, if you just want to etablish that the contents of two directories
are identical, the 'diff -r -q {dir1} {dir2} might be appropriate.



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Hi,

If anyone has used a Dazzle DVC100 with Freebsd, or knows how to
capture video with this on Freebsd, I'd appreciate some advice.  

Thanks!
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 09:18:13PM -0400, kpneal@pobox.com wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:24:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> > > like
> > > 
> > > 	% cksum <directory>
> > > 
> > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > different result was printed.
>  
> > 	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> > 	I think I did
> > 
> > 	% cksum foodir/*
> > 
> > 	and had to compare each file from another file I was copying from.
> > 	it was tiresome to check each of dozens of files tho. I was here at 
> > 	desk for something obscene -- over 12 hrs. getting my new [slightly
> > 	used:)] computer back to normal.  
> > 
> > 	if there isn't anything that can compare entire dirs, it looks like
> > 	it's time to hack a small program.  tx, polyt.
> 
> Unix was originally created to do text manipulation. No need for a new
> program when you can do it from the command line.
> 
> cd dir1 ; cksum * | sort > /tmp/dir1-cksum
> cd dir2 ; cksum * | sort > /tmp/dir2-cksum
> 
> diff /tmp/dir?-cksum
> 
> Don't forget to remove temporary files when you are done.
> 
> Other useful commands:
> cut
> paste
> 
> You can use awk to pull out and rearrange columns:
> cksum * | awk '{ print $3, $1, $2; }' | sort
> 
> This gives you a little easier diff in case you do have changes.
> 
> Friendly tip: if you did comparisons by hand for 12 hours then you
> may have missed something.


	no, it was several other tasks that I had t  o do very carefully
	by hand.  I was going to write an awk script.  I figured there
	were others ways.

	my desktop is a flavor of linux that i don't  know.  it seems to be
	lacking in many common unix binaries; md5 is one that I spent
	an hour checking.  zero.

	your first way works very well and will serve.   many thanks.
	now I can listen to:

	/Lectures on the Critique of Pure Reason

	which is now safely in my home directory in several mp3 files.
	
> 
> It's a real shame Unix doesn't have a really good tool for comparing
> two directory trees. You can use 'diff -r' (even on binaries), but that
> fails if you have devices, named pipes, or named sockets in the
> filesystem. And diff or cksum don't tell you if symlinks are different.
> Plus you may care about file ownership, and that's where the stat
> command comes in handy.


	right.  these are things you only discover the hard way.   
>  
> Not that I'm volunteering, mind you. I ended up instead writing a
> Python script to do copies of filesystems off of old machines I'm
> putting to pasture. It's amazing how badly old versions of dump and
> tar behave. 


	REmember CP/M and MP/M?  I started out with a dual 8085/80888 box 
	with MP/Mand wrote notes and letters that were stored on 8"
	twin floppies.  circa mid-1980's I transferred a boatload of floppies
	onto my 386 with SVR2 with uucp and others C programs on the 8088 box. 
	it took forever and things keep faulting, but I got it done.
	eventually.

> -- 
> Kevin P. Neal                                http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/
> 
>    "I like being on The Daily Show." - Kermit the Frog, Feb 13 2001

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 09:55:33PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:24:08 -0700
> > From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> > Subject: Re: cksum entire dir??
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.
> > > > ive read the man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed 
> > > > them.  no joy.  anybody know of a utility to do this?  I've 
> > > > got files that are decades old... 
> > > 
> > > Maybe it's possible to tar the directory (without
> > > compression of course) and obtain a checksum of
> > > the tar archive?
> > > 
> > > 	% tar cf - <director> | cksum
> > > 
> > > But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> > > like
> > > 
> > > 	% cksum <directory>
> > > 
> > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > different result was printed.
> > > 
> > > Tested on OS version 8.2-STABLE/i386, one year old.
> > > 
> >
> >
> > 	I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> > 	I think I did
> >
> > 	% cksum foodir/*
> >
> > 	and had to compare each file from another file I was copying from.
> > 	it was tiresome to check each of dozens of files tho. I was here at 
> > 	desk for something obscene -- over 12 hrs. getting my new [slightly
> > 	used:)] computer back to normal.  
> 
> If you'd say _what_ you are trying to accomplish, as distinct from
> _how_ you are attempting to do things,  people might be able to 
> suggest a "sensible" answer.
> 
> Taking what you asked _literally_, 'tar . -cf - | cksum' answers the question.
> Although 'find . -exec cat {} \; | cksum' may be closer.





	below, is what is easiest to script ... this was kevin's idea, simple
	and straight foreward.  the only trick is that in several cases I have
	to type [[ ot     alias ]] prefix strings like
	"/home/ethic/usr/home/kline" before I get into the breadth or depth of
	my directories ...

> 
> However, if you just want to etablish that the contents of two directories
> are identical, the 'diff -r -q {dir1} {dir2} might be appropriate.
> 
> 

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On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> 	% cksum <directory>
>=20
> and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> different result was printed.

That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
associated metadata only, not file content.  In theory you could edit a
file without modifying any of the timestamps, and that wouldn't result
in any change to the directory checksum.  Also, modifying things a few
layers down the filesystem hierarchy won't have any effect either.

Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'

Also, sum and cksum have way too small a key size for this to be
reliable, since you can't tell a true result from a hash collision.  Use
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On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:05 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Micka=C3=ABl Can=C3=A9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
>=20
> > I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch:
> > http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch
> >
> > What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that only
> > about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I was
> > wondering why it didn't take the whole 4GB up to the crash of the serve=
r
> > because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).
> >
> > Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more then
> > 500MB of data in swap ?
>=20
> limits(1)?
>=20
Thank you for your answer.

Here is the result of limits:

limits
Resource limits (current):
  cputime              infinity secs
  filesize             infinity kB
  datasize             33554432 kB
  stacksize              524288 kB
  coredumpsize         infinity kB
  memoryuse            infinity kB
  memorylocked         infinity kB
  maxprocesses             5547
  openfiles               11095
  sbsize               infinity bytes
  vmemoryuse           infinity kB
  pseudo-terminals     infinity
  swapuse              infinity kB

swapuse is set to unlimited, but stacksize is set to 512MB.
Is it the stacksize setting that prevent my kernel to swap more then
512MB ?
If so, are there any side effect of raising the stack (except exhaust
the swap space on the system) to give me more time to react by
restarting NFS or export/import Zpools for example in the case of NAMEI
memory leak before the kernel crashes ?

Thanks,
Micka=C3=ABl

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On Wednesday 12 September 2012 08:31:45 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > 	% cksum <directory>
[snip]
>
> That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
> associated metadata only, not file content.
[snip]
> Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'

Wouldn't suitable applications of mtree(8) also do what's wanted?

Jonathan

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> Wouldn't suitable applications of mtree(8) also do what's wanted?

TIMTOWTDI.

	Cheers,

	Matthew



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Regarding my question,

How do you get the ports tree or svn in that case if not using portsnap?

Helmut Schneider had two suggestions:

> You install ports from CD/DVD. Or use pkg_add -r subversion. :)

> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/

I guess I could use the latter and then build subversion among other ports, then subsequently switch to svn.

This would also work, I would guess, if ports tree is installed by bsdinstall or sysinstall.

Question arises whether the ports tree as downloaded in tarball by ftp would be compatible/in sync with portsnap or svn.

If in any doubt, either delete /usr/ports/* or move to /usr/ports-by-ftp and then restart fresh with svn.

I noticed the FreeBSD Handbook ports section was not up-to-date on the use of subversion with the ports tree.

Maybe with subversion now being elevated in importance for updating system source code and ports tree, it could become part of the base system.

Tom

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hi,

i'm trying to mount some NFSv4 shares served by a Solaris 10 server on  
our FreeBSD boxes. On FreeBSD 8.2, the mounts succeeded after  
explicitly specifying the "resvport" mount option (the Solaris NFSd  
refuses requests from unprivileged ports).

On 8.3, mount requests are denied no matter what option i specify. The  
server always complains about the client issuing requests from an  
unprivileged port.

is mount_nfs no longer honoring the "resvport" option in 8.3?
anything else i might be missing?

tia,
tom.

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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 01:20:47PM +0000, C. L. Martinez typed:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Ruben de Groot <mail25@bzerk.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 08:10:51PM +0200, carlopmart typed:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>  I have installed opensmtpd on my FreeBSD 8.3. All works ok, except I
> >> can't bind smtpd to specific IP address ... In this box, I am using 3 ip
> >> aliases, but smtpd sends all emails using the first IP.
> >>
> >>  Is it possible to configure this?? I have tried to fix with hostname
> >> option, without result ...
> >
> > You could run smtpd inside a jail(8) with that IP address.
> >
> > --
> 
> Yes it is an option, but too fat option ... This is a vm under ESXi
> with only 512 MB RAM ...

What do you mean, fat? You can jail <only> the smtpd process, using the
same / for root filesystem. Something like

jail / <hostname> <specific IP> /path/to/smtpd

instead of your normal startup command. This is as lean and mean as it gets.

Ruben


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Micka=EBl Can=E9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:

> On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:05 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>> Micka=EBl Can=E9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
>>=20
>> > I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch:
>> > http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch
>> >
>> > What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that only
>> > about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I was
>> > wondering why it didn't take the whole 4GB up to the crash of the serv=
er
>> > because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).
>> >
>> > Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more then
>> > 500MB of data in swap ?
>>=20
>> limits(1)?
>>=20
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> Here is the result of limits:
>
> limits
> Resource limits (current):
>   cputime              infinity secs
>   filesize             infinity kB
>   datasize             33554432 kB
>   stacksize              524288 kB
>   coredumpsize         infinity kB
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>   maxprocesses             5547
>   openfiles               11095
>   sbsize               infinity bytes
>   vmemoryuse           infinity kB
>   pseudo-terminals     infinity
>   swapuse              infinity kB
>
> swapuse is set to unlimited, but stacksize is set to 512MB.
> Is it the stacksize setting that prevent my kernel to swap more then
> 512MB ?

No, I don't think so. datasize was the parameter I was most
suspecting; and it assumes that a particular process was causing the
crash (which is unlikely; the OS is supposed to protect you against
it).=20

Most likely, the crash was not directly caused by a shortage of virtual
memory. You would have to diagnose through crash dumps, but it could be
that some more specific resource was exhausted. Or perhaps the memory
leak left dangling references in a vnode.

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Micka=EBl Can=E9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:

> On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:05 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>> Micka=EBl Can=E9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
>>=20
>> > I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch:
>> > http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch
>> >
>> > What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that only
>> > about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I was
>> > wondering why it didn't take the whole 4GB up to the crash of the serv=
er
>> > because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).
>> >
>> > Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more then
>> > 500MB of data in swap ?
>>=20
>> limits(1)?
>>=20
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> Here is the result of limits:
>
> limits
> Resource limits (current):
>   cputime              infinity secs
>   filesize             infinity kB
>   datasize             33554432 kB
>   stacksize              524288 kB
>   coredumpsize         infinity kB
>   memoryuse            infinity kB
>   memorylocked         infinity kB
>   maxprocesses             5547
>   openfiles               11095
>   sbsize               infinity bytes
>   vmemoryuse           infinity kB
>   pseudo-terminals     infinity
>   swapuse              infinity kB
>
> swapuse is set to unlimited, but stacksize is set to 512MB.
> Is it the stacksize setting that prevent my kernel to swap more then
> 512MB ?

No, I don't think so. datasize was the parameter I was most
suspecting; and it assumes that a particular process was causing the
crash (which is unlikely; the OS is supposed to protect you against
it).=20

Most likely, the crash was not directly caused by a shortage of virtual
memory. You would have to diagnose through crash dumps, but it could be
that some more specific resource was exhausted. Or perhaps the memory
leak left dangling references in a vnode.

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On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 10:03 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Micka=C3=ABl Can=C3=A9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
>=20
> > On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:05 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> >> Micka=C3=ABl Can=C3=A9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
> >>=20
> >> > I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch:
> >> > http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch
> >> >
> >> > What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that only
> >> > about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I was
> >> > wondering why it didn't take the whole 4GB up to the crash of the se=
rver
> >> > because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).
> >> >
> >> > Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more the=
n
> >> > 500MB of data in swap ?
> >>=20
> >> limits(1)?
> >>=20
> > Thank you for your answer.
> >
> > Here is the result of limits:
> >
> > limits
> > Resource limits (current):
> >   cputime              infinity secs
> >   filesize             infinity kB
> >   datasize             33554432 kB
> >   stacksize              524288 kB
> >   coredumpsize         infinity kB
> >   memoryuse            infinity kB
> >   memorylocked         infinity kB
> >   maxprocesses             5547
> >   openfiles               11095
> >   sbsize               infinity bytes
> >   vmemoryuse           infinity kB
> >   pseudo-terminals     infinity
> >   swapuse              infinity kB
> >
> > swapuse is set to unlimited, but stacksize is set to 512MB.
> > Is it the stacksize setting that prevent my kernel to swap more then
> > 512MB ?
>=20
> No, I don't think so. datasize was the parameter I was most
> suspecting; and it assumes that a particular process was causing the
> crash (which is unlikely; the OS is supposed to protect you against
> it).=20
>=20
> Most likely, the crash was not directly caused by a shortage of virtual
> memory. You would have to diagnose through crash dumps, but it could be
> that some more specific resource was exhausted. Or perhaps the memory
> leak left dangling references in a vnode.
>=20

OK,

Thanks a lot for your explanations.

Cheers,
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On Sep 11, 2012 10:10 PM, "Gary Kline" <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 09:18:13PM -0400, kpneal@pobox.com wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:24:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:14:43AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > > But I also tried cksum directly with a directory
> > > > like
> > > >
> > > >   % cksum <directory>
> > > >
> > > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > > different result was printed.
> >
> > >     I think I tried something like your second example last night.
> > >     I think I did
> > >
> > >     % cksum foodir/*
> > >
> > >     and had to compare each file from another file I was copying from=
.
> > >     it was tiresome to check each of dozens of files tho. I was here
at
> > >     desk for something obscene -- over 12 hrs. getting my new
[slightly
> > >     used:)] computer back to normal.
> > >
> > >     if there isn't anything that can compare entire dirs, it looks
like
> > >     it's time to hack a small program.  tx, polyt.
> >
> > Unix was originally created to do text manipulation. No need for a new
> > program when you can do it from the command line.
> >
> > cd dir1 ; cksum * | sort > /tmp/dir1-cksum
> > cd dir2 ; cksum * | sort > /tmp/dir2-cksum
> >
> > diff /tmp/dir?-cksum
> >
> > Don't forget to remove temporary files when you are done.
> >
> > Other useful commands:
> > cut
> > paste
> >
> > You can use awk to pull out and rearrange columns:
> > cksum * | awk '{ print $3, $1, $2; }' | sort
> >
> > This gives you a little easier diff in case you do have changes.
> >
> > Friendly tip: if you did comparisons by hand for 12 hours then you
> > may have missed something.
>
>
>         no, it was several other tasks that I had t  o do very carefully
>         by hand.  I was going to write an awk script.  I figured there
>         were others ways.
>
>         my desktop is a flavor of linux that i don't  know.  it seems to
be
>         lacking in many common unix binaries; md5 is one that I spent
>         an hour checking.  zero.
>
>         your first way works very well and will serve.   many thanks.
>         now I can listen to:
>
>         /Lectures on the Critique of Pure Reason
>
>         which is now safely in my home directory in several mp3 files.
>
> >
> > It's a real shame Unix doesn't have a really good tool for comparing
> > two directory trees. You can use 'diff -r' (even on binaries), but that
> > fails if you have devices, named pipes, or named sockets in the
> > filesystem. And diff or cksum don't tell you if symlinks are different.
> > Plus you may care about file ownership, and that's where the stat
> > command comes in handy.
>
>
>         right.  these are things you only discover the hard way.
> >
> > Not that I'm volunteering, mind you. I ended up instead writing a
> > Python script to do copies of filesystems off of old machines I'm
> > putting to pasture. It's amazing how badly old versions of dump and
> > tar behave.
>
>
>         REmember CP/M and MP/M?  I started out with a dual 8085/80888 box
>         with MP/Mand wrote notes and letters that were stored on 8"
>         twin floppies.  circa mid-1980's I transferred a boatload of
floppies
>         onto my 386 with SVR2 with uucp and others C programs on the 8088
box.
>         it took forever and things keep faulting, but I got it done.
>         eventually.
>
> >

oh yeah, I remember the Kaypro =ABportable=BB which was as big as a sampson=
ite,
and despite being built like a tank probably couldn't handle a wrangling by
a gorilla.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California



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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > 	% cksum <directory>
> > 
> > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > different result was printed.
> 
> That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
> associated metadata only, not file content.  In theory you could edit a
> file without modifying any of the timestamps, and that wouldn't result
> in any change to the directory checksum.  Also, modifying things a few
> layers down the filesystem hierarchy won't have any effect either.
> 
> Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'
> 
> Also, sum and cksum have way too small a key size for this to be
> reliable, since you can't tell a true result from a hash collision.  Use
> md5 or sha1 or sha256 for best results.
> 

	So this sha256 is *real*??  I have no md5 on my "fedora"
	that is on my desktop and m having trouble getting used to.  
	but the gentleman who recommened cpio was right on the money.

	note that I am loathe to spam this list with the following mail from my
	files in sept, 1988, but here it is.  if I had only gr -r -w cpio
	around in all my directories, I would have found this, sent to one Dirm
	Myers across the pond ::


	===

>From kline Sat Sep  5 11:52:20 1998
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  Yesterday morning I began composing the next two Q's and A's
  in my mailer.  Last night in the wee hours there was a power
  glitch and I lost the mail.

  Enclosed is the first//next Q/A.  I'll send along another one
  or two later today.  One that I was playing around with *failed*
  and I'm trying to figure out why.

  -----

  How can I uise my FBSD floppy drive to copy files to it (in this case,
  at work), and retrieve the files on my FBSD systtem at home.  So far
  I've only seen examples that used floppies with a filesystem on them.
  Is there a simplr, more direct way?

  You can treat the 'raw' floppy device as if it is a tape drive, and
  use typically UNIX tape tools to read/write, such as tar and  cpio.
  For instance, to copy the current directory onto a floppy to
  take home at night:

        (put the floppy in the drive, and cd to the directory where
         the files are; then )

        % tar -cvf /dev/rfd0 .

  To read it when you get home:

        (put the floppy in the drive at home; and extract the tarball
         wherever you want the files)

        % tar -xvf /dev/rfd0

  The flags -c and -x indicate create and extract mode, the ``v''
  specifies verbose mode, and the ``f'' tells tar that the following
  argument is the file or device that tar acts upon.  Here, it is
  the floppy devide.


  With cpio:

        (chdir to the directory where the files are)

        % ls | cpio -oc > /dev/rfd0

       To read a cpio archive from a tape drive:

       % cpio -icd < /dev/rfd0


       The flags -i and -o indicate copy-in or extract mode and
       copy-out or create archive mode.   The ``c'' tells cpio
       to use the old, portablr ASCII archive format.  And the
       ``d'' flag tells cpio to create directories where necessary.

       Do a

       % man cpio

       for much greater detail on this utility.

  -----

  There are another one or two of the simpler Q/A's and one or two
  more involved.

  Then, for this month only, I want to write a paragraph or two
  about who I am and where I'm coming from.  Since you are sharing
  the by-line you might want to consider this too.

  gary

  PS:   Next month we get a break!!

--
   Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service uNix

	====
	as you can see, this dealt with my olden tape drive.  a 250meg
	QIC drive, I think.    but this was about the earliest reference 
	I could find re my use of cpio.  there are others in my journal 
	dir that reference my running out of hard drive and using cpio rather
	that a straight cp -rp.  [this was back when a 130meg drive was Huge
	and made me feel rick.]



> 	Cheers,
> 
> 	Matthew
> 
> -- 
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
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> 



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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > >     % cksum <directory>
> > >
> > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > different result was printed.
> >
> > That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
> > associated metadata only, not file content.  In theory you could edit a
> > file without modifying any of the timestamps, and that wouldn't result
> > in any change to the directory checksum.  Also, modifying things a few
> > layers down the filesystem hierarchy won't have any effect either.
> >
> > Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> > copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'
> >
> > Also, sum and cksum have way too small a key size for this to be
> > reliable, since you can't tell a true result from a hash collision.  Use
> > md5 or sha1 or sha256 for best results.
> >
>
>         So this sha256 is *real*??  I have no md5 on my "fedora"
>         that is on my desktop and m having trouble getting used to.
>         but the gentleman who recommened cpio was right on the money.
>



are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my GNU/Linux
machines.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California USA




>
>         note that I am loathe to spam this list with the following mail
> from my
>         files in sept, 1988, but here it is.  if I had only gr -r -w cpio
>         around in all my directories, I would have found this, sent to one
> Dirm
>         Myers across the pond ::
>
>
>         ===
>
> >From kline Sat Sep  5 11:52:20 1998
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> To: dirkm@buster.dhis.eu.org (Dirk Myers)
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
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>
>   Yesterday morning I began composing the next two Q's and A's
>   in my mailer.  Last night in the wee hours there was a power
>   glitch and I lost the mail.
>
>   Enclosed is the first//next Q/A.  I'll send along another one
>   or two later today.  One that I was playing around with *failed*
>   and I'm trying to figure out why.
>
>   -----
>
>   How can I uise my FBSD floppy drive to copy files to it (in this case,
>   at work), and retrieve the files on my FBSD systtem at home.  So far
>   I've only seen examples that used floppies with a filesystem on them.
>   Is there a simplr, more direct way?
>
>   You can treat the 'raw' floppy device as if it is a tape drive, and
>   use typically UNIX tape tools to read/write, such as tar and  cpio.
>   For instance, to copy the current directory onto a floppy to
>   take home at night:
>
>         (put the floppy in the drive, and cd to the directory where
>          the files are; then )
>
>         % tar -cvf /dev/rfd0 .
>
>   To read it when you get home:
>
>         (put the floppy in the drive at home; and extract the tarball
>          wherever you want the files)
>
>         % tar -xvf /dev/rfd0
>
>   The flags -c and -x indicate create and extract mode, the ``v''
>   specifies verbose mode, and the ``f'' tells tar that the following
>   argument is the file or device that tar acts upon.  Here, it is
>   the floppy devide.
>
>
>   With cpio:
>
>         (chdir to the directory where the files are)
>
>         % ls | cpio -oc > /dev/rfd0
>
>        To read a cpio archive from a tape drive:
>
>        % cpio -icd < /dev/rfd0
>
>
>        The flags -i and -o indicate copy-in or extract mode and
>        copy-out or create archive mode.   The ``c'' tells cpio
>        to use the old, portablr ASCII archive format.  And the
>        ``d'' flag tells cpio to create directories where necessary.
>
>        Do a
>
>        % man cpio
>
>        for much greater detail on this utility.
>
>   -----
>
>   There are another one or two of the simpler Q/A's and one or two
>   more involved.
>
>   Then, for this month only, I want to write a paragraph or two
>   about who I am and where I'm coming from.  Since you are sharing
>   the by-line you might want to consider this too.
>
>   gary
>
>   PS:   Next month we get a break!!
>
> --
>    Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service
> uNix
>
>         ====
>         as you can see, this dealt with my olden tape drive.  a 250meg
>         QIC drive, I think.    but this was about the earliest reference
>         I could find re my use of cpio.  there are others in my journal
>         dir that reference my running out of hard drive and using cpio
> rather
>         that a straight cp -rp.  [this was back when a 130meg drive was
> Huge
>         and made me feel rick.]
>
>
>
> >       Cheers,
> >
> >       Matthew
> >
> > --
> > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
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>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

G> I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.  ive read the
G> man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed them.  no joy.  anybody
G> know of a utility to do this?  I've got files that are decades old...

   I wouldn't use CRC32 to check file integrity; use SHA1 or MD5 at the
   very least.  See http://home.comcast.net/~bretm/hash/8.html for details.

>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:17:25 -0700, 
>> Colin Barnabas <colin.barnabas@gmail.com> replied:

   Are you by any chance a "Dark Shadows" fan?

C> This works for me:
C> $ find foo/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5 >> foo.md5

   I do something similar when copying files to a backup server; it's not
   unheard of for SSH to drop a session or a drive to have a bad spot.

   An easy-to-automate way is: get a list of files, use the hash of your
   choice to generate signatures, sort the signature file by the hash, and
   then get the hash value of the signature file.  Here's an example using
   my bin directory:

     me% ls
     aline       dir         hist        makecfg     mx          ro
     authlog     diskused    isodate     makekey     mylook      setperm
     avg         dline       kernlog     makepass    n32         sha
     buildenv    dnslog      lastdom     mb          n64         sshlog
     cline       dosrc       linkdups    md5path     nr          sulog
     cmdlog      dot         ll          memuse      ntplog      syslog
     conlog      dp          lsl         mgrep       pathinfo    tc
     core        f           lslm        mk          ping        tcv
     cronlog     fixhist     lsn         mkdtree     plog        tl
     daemonlog   fmt         lsnm        mkproto     pwgen       tr0
     dblog       getperm     lss         mkrcs       r           tx
     dbrun       google      lssm        mongolog    rand        vi
     dh          haval       lst         month       range       zp
     dig         help2man    lstm        mv2inode
     
     me% find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5 -r | sort > /tmp/dir.md5
     
     me% cat /tmp/dir.md5
     01328aeb4fd0eb3d998f4d7ad407a73f ./setperm
     017d6d622fb93bf7f23c0fb7b96b16eb ./core
     0287839688bd660676582266685b05bd ./mkrcs
     0b97494883c76da546e3603d1b65e7b2 ./pwgen
     ...
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./authlog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./cmdlog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./conlog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./cronlog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./daemonlog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./kernlog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./ntplog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./sulog
     ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./syslog
     ...
     fdff1fd84d47f76dbd4954c607d66714 ./dbrun
     ff5e24efec5cf1e17cf32c58e9c4b317 ./tr0

   The *log files are hard-linked, hence the duplicate MD5 values.
     
     me% md5 -r /tmp/dir.md5
     fdc34a5a5df7807d4fc45739d2d3039f /tmp/dir.md5

   If I copy these files elsewhere, I can repeat the steps and just compare
   the final hash; if it's anything other than 'fdc34...3039f', something's
   wrong.

-- 
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:55:57 -0700
Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > > On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > > >     % cksum <directory>
> > > >
> > > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > > different result was printed.
> > >
> > > That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
> > > associated metadata only, not file content.  In theory you could edit a
> > > file without modifying any of the timestamps, and that wouldn't result
> > > in any change to the directory checksum.  Also, modifying things a few
> > > layers down the filesystem hierarchy won't have any effect either.
> > >
> > > Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> > > copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'
> > >
> > > Also, sum and cksum have way too small a key size for this to be
> > > reliable, since you can't tell a true result from a hash collision.  Use
> > > md5 or sha1 or sha256 for best results.
> > >
> >
> >         So this sha256 is *real*??  I have no md5 on my "fedora"
> >         that is on my desktop and m having trouble getting used to.
> >         but the gentleman who recommened cpio was right on the money.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my GNU/Linux
> machines.
> 
> Waitman Gobble
> San Jose California USA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >         note that I am loathe to spam this list with the following mail
> > from my
> >         files in sept, 1988, but here it is.  if I had only gr -r -w cpio
> >         around in all my directories, I would have found this, sent to one
> > Dirm
> >         Myers across the pond ::
> >
> >
> >         ===
> >
> > >From kline Sat Sep  5 11:52:20 1998
> > Subject: lost mail file...
> > To: dirkm@buster.dhis.eu.org (Dirk Myers)
> > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
> > Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <>
> > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)]
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> >
> >
> >   Yesterday morning I began composing the next two Q's and A's
> >   in my mailer.  Last night in the wee hours there was a power
> >   glitch and I lost the mail.
> >
> >   Enclosed is the first//next Q/A.  I'll send along another one
> >   or two later today.  One that I was playing around with *failed*
> >   and I'm trying to figure out why.
> >
> >   -----
> >
> >   How can I uise my FBSD floppy drive to copy files to it (in this case,
> >   at work), and retrieve the files on my FBSD systtem at home.  So far
> >   I've only seen examples that used floppies with a filesystem on them.
> >   Is there a simplr, more direct way?
> >
> >   You can treat the 'raw' floppy device as if it is a tape drive, and
> >   use typically UNIX tape tools to read/write, such as tar and  cpio.
> >   For instance, to copy the current directory onto a floppy to
> >   take home at night:
> >
> >         (put the floppy in the drive, and cd to the directory where
> >          the files are; then )
> >
> >         % tar -cvf /dev/rfd0 .
> >
> >   To read it when you get home:
> >
> >         (put the floppy in the drive at home; and extract the tarball
> >          wherever you want the files)
> >
> >         % tar -xvf /dev/rfd0
> >
> >   The flags -c and -x indicate create and extract mode, the ``v''
> >   specifies verbose mode, and the ``f'' tells tar that the following
> >   argument is the file or device that tar acts upon.  Here, it is
> >   the floppy devide.
> >
> >
> >   With cpio:
> >
> >         (chdir to the directory where the files are)
> >
> >         % ls | cpio -oc > /dev/rfd0
> >
> >        To read a cpio archive from a tape drive:
> >
> >        % cpio -icd < /dev/rfd0
> >
> >
> >        The flags -i and -o indicate copy-in or extract mode and
> >        copy-out or create archive mode.   The ``c'' tells cpio
> >        to use the old, portablr ASCII archive format.  And the
> >        ``d'' flag tells cpio to create directories where necessary.
> >
> >        Do a
> >
> >        % man cpio
> >
> >        for much greater detail on this utility.
> >
> >   -----
> >
> >   There are another one or two of the simpler Q/A's and one or two
> >   more involved.
> >
> >   Then, for this month only, I want to write a paragraph or two
> >   about who I am and where I'm coming from.  Since you are sharing
> >   the by-line you might want to consider this too.
> >
> >   gary
> >
> >   PS:   Next month we get a break!!
> >
> > --
> >    Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service
> > uNix
> >
> >         ====
> >         as you can see, this dealt with my olden tape drive.  a 250meg
> >         QIC drive, I think.    but this was about the earliest reference
> >         I could find re my use of cpio.  there are others in my journal
> >         dir that reference my running out of hard drive and using cpio
> > rather
> >         that a straight cp -rp.  [this was back when a 130meg drive was
> > Huge
> >         and made me feel rick.]
> >
> >
> >
> > >       Cheers,
> > >
> > >       Matthew
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
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My Linux system has both md5sum and md5deep. They give the same result, except that md5sum quotes the file name in the current directory, and md5deep gives the fully-qualified name. I have been using md5deep - I didn't know md5sum existed.

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Does anyone have any experience with these cards ? We are looking for a
controller that has a little more gas than the twa based cards which
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experience with 3ware/LSI's cards that use the tws driver.  Has anyone
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 September 2012 08:31:45 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > > 	% cksum <directory>
> [snip]
> >
> > That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
> > associated metadata only, not file content.
> [snip]
> > Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> > copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'
> 
> Wouldn't suitable applications of mtree(8) also do what's wanted?
> 
> Jonathan
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	how, with mtree, could I tell  whether dir1 == dir2 or not?

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:57AM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > > On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > > >     % cksum <directory>
> > > >
> > > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > > different result was printed.
> > >
> > > That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
> > > associated metadata only, not file content.  In theory you could edit a
> > > file without modifying any of the timestamps, and that wouldn't result
> > > in any change to the directory checksum.  Also, modifying things a few
> > > layers down the filesystem hierarchy won't have any effect either.
> > >
> > > Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> > > copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'
> > >
> > > Also, sum and cksum have way too small a key size for this to be
> > > reliable, since you can't tell a true result from a hash collision.  Use
> > > md5 or sha1 or sha256 for best results.
> > >
> >
> >         So this sha256 is *real*??  I have no md5 on my "fedora"
> >         that is on my desktop and m having trouble getting used to.
> >         but the gentleman who recommened cpio was right on the money.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my GNU/Linux
> machines.
> 
> Waitman Gobble
> San Jose California USA
> 

	yup, you be right.  altho we have no md5 [[does FBSD?]], fedora 
	does have md5sum.  makes me wonder why this flavor didnt do at least a
	symlink.   oh well.    

	thankee much.

	[[ 
	    axeing to save BW
	]]


> 
> > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
> > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
> > >
> > >
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:57AM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > > > On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > > > >     % cksum <directory>
> > > > >
> > > > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > > > different result was printed.
> > > >
> > > > That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names
> and
> > > > associated metadata only, not file content.  In theory you could
> edit a
> > > > file without modifying any of the timestamps, and that wouldn't
> result
> > > > in any change to the directory checksum.  Also, modifying things a
> few
> > > > layers down the filesystem hierarchy won't have any effect either.
> > > >
> > > > Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> > > > copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'
> > > >
> > > > Also, sum and cksum have way too small a key size for this to be
> > > > reliable, since you can't tell a true result from a hash collision.
>  Use
> > > > md5 or sha1 or sha256 for best results.
> > > >
> > >
> > >         So this sha256 is *real*??  I have no md5 on my "fedora"
> > >         that is on my desktop and m having trouble getting used to.
> > >         but the gentleman who recommened cpio was right on the money.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my GNU/Linux
> > machines.
> >
> > Waitman Gobble
> > San Jose California USA
> >
>
>         yup, you be right.  altho we have no md5 [[does FBSD?]], fedora
>         does have md5sum.  makes me wonder why this flavor didnt do at
> least a
>         symlink.   oh well.
>
>         thankee much.
>
>         [[
>             axeing to save BW
>         ]]
>
>
> >
> > > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
> > > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey
> > > >
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> > >
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cat /usr/src/sbin/md5
/*
 * Derived from:
 *
 * MDDRIVER.C - test driver for MD2, MD4 and MD5
 */

/*
 *  Copyright (C) 1990-2, RSA Data Security, Inc. Created 1990. All
 *  rights reserved.
 *
 *  RSA Data Security, Inc. makes no representations concerning either
 *  the merchantability of this software or the suitability of this
 *  software for any particular purpose. It is provided "as is"
 *  without express or implied warranty of any kind.
 *
 *  These notices must be retained in any copies of any part of this
 *  documentation and/or software.
 */



on my fedora machine, md5sum is from GNU coreutils (on FreeBSD this is in
ports/sysutils/coreutils)

FreeBSD
$ md5 messages
MD5 (messages) = cfbeddecf1a699471c8135a331aac589

Fedora
# md5sum messages
ece159dd0b47c7a7592ceb036745a474  messages


if you gotta have md5.c, could probably pull the src and build on fedora or
maybe something like http://www.efgh.com/software/md5.htm

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:11:05PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:38:04 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> G> I'm trying to checksum directories as I move them around.  ive read the
> G> man page for sum and cksum ... or maybe skimmed them.  no joy.  anybody
> G> know of a utility to do this?  I've got files that are decades old...
> 
>    I wouldn't use CRC32 to check file integrity; use SHA1 or MD5 at the
>    very least.  See http://home.comcast.net/~bretm/hash/8.html for details.


[root@ethos klinebak]# yum install sha1
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
adobe-linux-x86_64                                       |  951 B     00:00     
rpmfusion-free-updates                                   | 3.3 kB     00:00     
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates                                | 3.3 kB     00:00     
updates/metalink                                         |  18 kB     00:00     
No package sha1 available.
Error: Nothing to do
[root@ethos klinebak]# 

	see, nothing; I tried to install sha256 as  well. zip.  but md5sum
	I have, so that will serve.

> 
> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:17:25 -0700, 
> >> Colin Barnabas <colin.barnabas@gmail.com> replied:
> 
>    Are you by any chance a "Dark Shadows" fan?


	I havent a clue what that is; if it's a tv show, no.  
	same w/ movies.

> 
> C> This works for me:
> C> $ find foo/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5 >> foo.md5
> 
>    I do something similar when copying files to a backup server; it's not
>    unheard of for SSH to drop a session or a drive to have a bad spot.
> 
>    An easy-to-automate way is: get a list of files, use the hash of your
>    choice to generate signatures, sort the signature file by the hash, and
>    then get the hash value of the signature file.  Here's an example using
>    my bin directory:
> 
>      me% ls
>      aline       dir         hist        makecfg     mx          ro
>      authlog     diskused    isodate     makekey     mylook      setperm
>      avg         dline       kernlog     makepass    n32         sha
>      buildenv    dnslog      lastdom     mb          n64         sshlog
>      cline       dosrc       linkdups    md5path     nr          sulog
>      cmdlog      dot         ll          memuse      ntplog      syslog
>      conlog      dp          lsl         mgrep       pathinfo    tc
>      core        f           lslm        mk          ping        tcv
>      cronlog     fixhist     lsn         mkdtree     plog        tl
>      daemonlog   fmt         lsnm        mkproto     pwgen       tr0
>      dblog       getperm     lss         mkrcs       r           tx
>      dbrun       google      lssm        mongolog    rand        vi
>      dh          haval       lst         month       range       zp
>      dig         help2man    lstm        mv2inode
>      
>      me% find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5 -r | sort > /tmp/dir.md5
>      
>      me% cat /tmp/dir.md5
>      01328aeb4fd0eb3d998f4d7ad407a73f ./setperm
>      017d6d622fb93bf7f23c0fb7b96b16eb ./core
>      0287839688bd660676582266685b05bd ./mkrcs
>      0b97494883c76da546e3603d1b65e7b2 ./pwgen
>      ...
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./authlog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./cmdlog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./conlog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./cronlog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./daemonlog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./kernlog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./ntplog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./sulog
>      ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./syslog
>      ...
>      fdff1fd84d47f76dbd4954c607d66714 ./dbrun
>      ff5e24efec5cf1e17cf32c58e9c4b317 ./tr0
> 
>    The *log files are hard-linked, hence the duplicate MD5 values.
>      

	right.


>      me% md5 -r /tmp/dir.md5
>      fdc34a5a5df7807d4fc45739d2d3039f /tmp/dir.md5
> 
>    If I copy these files elsewhere, I can repeat the steps and just compare
>    the final hash; if it's anything other than 'fdc34...3039f', something's
>    wrong.


	well, the full story is my new system admin left my desktop 3/4 or 7/8
	or 15/16ths in shardes.  I have to-be-made-whole files/dirs in
	/home/kline.  copies from two primary computers are scattered all
	over.  I/  it won't be the-end if I lose a few favorite songs, but 
	I  wantto make certain that my devel and journal and writing dirs 
	and a few others are md5sum flawless.     

	thanks for youw howto across machines, karl.  I'll save this in my
	howto file.  my present desktop is temp; I'll turn it into a server
	---just-in-case.  then will use my server for backups.  gotta 
	match up.

> 
> -- 
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
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	[[ ...]]
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> My Linux system has both md5sum and md5deep. They give the same result, except that md5sum quotes the file name in the current directory, and md5deep gives the fully-qualified name. I have been using md5deep - I didn't know md5sum existed.

I did a yum install md5* and got deep! :_)

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Hi All,

Is it possible to write FreeBSD 8.x installation logs onto a resulting
FreeBSD 8.x host via sysinstall or some scripting method?  I am
interested in output one sees during a normal installation plus any
warning/error conditions.  Ideally, this information will end up on
the installed host in a directory within /var.  sysinstall docs don't
seem to explain any sort of facility to accomplish this.  Perhaps
there is someone out there who has done something similar that might
be able to share their knowledge?

-- 
Take care
Rick Miller

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> > are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my
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> 	yup, you be right.  altho we have no md5 [[does FBSD?]],
> fedora does have md5sum.  makes me wonder why this flavor didnt do at
> least a symlink.   oh well.    

FreeBSD's md5 and GNU's md5sum don't behave the same. Specifically when
reading from stdin (as in a pipeline) md5 sensibly just outputs the hash
and a newline, whereas md5sum follows the hash with a "-" to indicate
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> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
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>         [[ ...]]
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> > My Linux system has both md5sum and md5deep. They give the same result,
> except that md5sum quotes the file name in the current directory, and
> md5deep gives the fully-qualified name. I have been using md5deep - I
> didn't know md5sum existed.
>
> I did a yum install md5* and got deep! :_)
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also "maybe???" of interest.. it's pretty quick & easy to hack the 'find'
function in /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ with md5 capability..
not sure if it's helpful..


copy /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ somewhere, then edit function.c,

#include <md5.h>

int
f_print(PLAN *plan __unused, FTSENT *entry)
{
        char * md5sum[32];
        (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));
        (void)puts(entry->fts_path);
        return 1;
}


and edit Makefile (change exec name,

PROG=   md5find
LDADD+= -lmd

then "make"..

run it:

./md5find .
224df9d178aa35cb532664ea37875791 .
bfe464b3ac942e85d8b818a9441e2286 ./find.o
0fc28847bb344166ff0f7f4c12d6e4ed ./Makefile
beb4c49ba914f62da0b57b16778c1772 ./extern.h
8895f62adaa15b194dec6f15e4c5956b ./find.1
8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./find.c
99fade54bb9baf0d3b4d8822d53800b3 ./find.h
23f43527a2bdc3abf1e8eaa1aca68f26 ./function.c
1d25eb09d42261b28cc783a6b48e39ac ./getdate.y
fce6f5ec314eaea09170b79a0711d07e ./ls.c
75d64926376a5440b7e23b295417a6cc ./main.c
2599f1f22d557b076ff1cde9b17cff55 ./misc.c
2c4e3bb00a37b839d9ac0dc0e12a88bc ./operator.c
3157efe1ed3821e96fec71f1ca4b2306 ./option.c
7ea8adb4cb549b118b903238f43afd37 ./function.o
12f6a75a82f817e1306c323fdddbff59 ./ls.o
e97d015d2e5fbeb3fdff4fa22b76f0e2 ./main.o
2a5100f2c5ed4c9408ab51d6e2a848cc ./misc.o
6360e963e0f285fe3dc170309a2ae219 ./operator.o
68c47f622cb1d4d8f58ff7b2ef2c8312 ./option.o
47a8978565c6cb8b0280c231679847ba ./getdate.c
7eb3a4e4984e4696347501eeba2e0566 ./getdate.o
e406e4422cf29f3b42484596524b71c1 ./find
e3ea95347aa5efd7030103536c23a8d3 ./find.1.gz
4b1fd4eb69577f53bd97d8cd2159c8eb ./md5find
03d161fcb84fb38aad6ccd8ce0cafeaf ./testdir
8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./testdir/find.c


....etc

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:39:46PM +0100, RW wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:47:04 -0700
> Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:57AM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
>  
> > > are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my
> > > GNU/Linux machines.
> > > 
> > > Waitman Gobble
> > > San Jose California USA
> > > 
> > 
> > 	yup, you be right.  altho we have no md5 [[does FBSD?]],
> > fedora does have md5sum.  makes me wonder why this flavor didnt do at
> > least a symlink.   oh well.    
> 
> FreeBSD's md5 and GNU's md5sum don't behave the same. Specifically when
> reading from stdin (as in a pipeline) md5 sensibly just outputs the hash
> and a newline, whereas md5sum follows the hash with a "-" to indicate
> stdin as the "filename".
o


	ah shit.  well, I spent at least ten years porting stuff--everything
	F'ing thing...    So I'll  have to find the md5 src and port it.
	
	then follow karl's example.  and others'.  [[[ See, this is just one
	example of taken proven code and adding something and breaking 
	something ... ]]]

	
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[ no response on mozilla@ list, trying questions@ ]

I have a problem with various parts of web pages stopping
before getting completely downloaded. Links has a useful retries
setting (setup->network options->retries) which seems to fix
this. I need a similar fix for firefox 3.6.2

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:58:00PM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
> > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:55:57 -0700
> > > Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> >         [[ ...]]
> > >
> > > My Linux system has both md5sum and md5deep. They give the same result,
> > except that md5sum quotes the file name in the current directory, and
> > md5deep gives the fully-qualified name. I have been using md5deep - I
> > didn't know md5sum existed.
> >
> > I did a yum install md5* and got deep! :_)
> >
> > t.y
> >
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> 
> 
> also "maybe???" of interest.. it's pretty quick & easy to hack the 'find'
> function in /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ with md5 capability..
> not sure if it's helpful..
> 
> 
> copy /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ somewhere, then edit function.c,
> 
> #include <md5.h>
> 
> int
> f_print(PLAN *plan __unused, FTSENT *entry)
> {
>         char * md5sum[32];
>         (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));
>         (void)puts(entry->fts_path);
>         return 1;
> }
> 
> 
> and edit Makefile (change exec name,
> 
> PROG=   md5find
> LDADD+= -lmd
> 
> then "make"..
> 
> run it:
> 
> ./md5find .
> 224df9d178aa35cb532664ea37875791 .
> bfe464b3ac942e85d8b818a9441e2286 ./find.o
> 0fc28847bb344166ff0f7f4c12d6e4ed ./Makefile
> beb4c49ba914f62da0b57b16778c1772 ./extern.h
> 8895f62adaa15b194dec6f15e4c5956b ./find.1
> 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./find.c
> 99fade54bb9baf0d3b4d8822d53800b3 ./find.h
> 23f43527a2bdc3abf1e8eaa1aca68f26 ./function.c
> 1d25eb09d42261b28cc783a6b48e39ac ./getdate.y
> fce6f5ec314eaea09170b79a0711d07e ./ls.c
> 75d64926376a5440b7e23b295417a6cc ./main.c
> 2599f1f22d557b076ff1cde9b17cff55 ./misc.c
> 2c4e3bb00a37b839d9ac0dc0e12a88bc ./operator.c
> 3157efe1ed3821e96fec71f1ca4b2306 ./option.c
> 7ea8adb4cb549b118b903238f43afd37 ./function.o
> 12f6a75a82f817e1306c323fdddbff59 ./ls.o
> e97d015d2e5fbeb3fdff4fa22b76f0e2 ./main.o
> 2a5100f2c5ed4c9408ab51d6e2a848cc ./misc.o
> 6360e963e0f285fe3dc170309a2ae219 ./operator.o
> 68c47f622cb1d4d8f58ff7b2ef2c8312 ./option.o
> 47a8978565c6cb8b0280c231679847ba ./getdate.c
> 7eb3a4e4984e4696347501eeba2e0566 ./getdate.o
> e406e4422cf29f3b42484596524b71c1 ./find
> e3ea95347aa5efd7030103536c23a8d3 ./find.1.gz
> 4b1fd4eb69577f53bd97d8cd2159c8eb ./md5find
> 03d161fcb84fb38aad6ccd8ce0cafeaf ./testdir
> 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./testdir/find.c
> 
> 
> ....etc
> 
> Waitman Gobble
> San Jose California
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	where, Sir, is the header?!
		

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:58:00PM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:55:57 -0700
> > > > Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > >         [[ ...]]
> > > >
> > > > My Linux system has both md5sum and md5deep. They give the same
> result,
> > > except that md5sum quotes the file name in the current directory, and
> > > md5deep gives the fully-qualified name. I have been using md5deep - I
> > > didn't know md5sum existed.
> > >
> > > I did a yum install md5* and got deep! :_)
> > >
> > > t.y
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > also "maybe???" of interest.. it's pretty quick & easy to hack the 'find'
> > function in /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ with md5 capability..
> > not sure if it's helpful..
> >
> >
> > copy /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ somewhere, then edit function.c,
> >
> > #include <md5.h>
> >
> > int
> > f_print(PLAN *plan __unused, FTSENT *entry)
> > {
> >         char * md5sum[32];
> >         (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));
> >         (void)puts(entry->fts_path);
> >         return 1;
> > }
> >
> >
> > and edit Makefile (change exec name,
> >
> > PROG=   md5find
> > LDADD+= -lmd
> >
> > then "make"..
> >
> > run it:
> >
> > ./md5find .
> > 224df9d178aa35cb532664ea37875791 .
> > bfe464b3ac942e85d8b818a9441e2286 ./find.o
> > 0fc28847bb344166ff0f7f4c12d6e4ed ./Makefile
> > beb4c49ba914f62da0b57b16778c1772 ./extern.h
> > 8895f62adaa15b194dec6f15e4c5956b ./find.1
> > 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./find.c
> > 99fade54bb9baf0d3b4d8822d53800b3 ./find.h
> > 23f43527a2bdc3abf1e8eaa1aca68f26 ./function.c
> > 1d25eb09d42261b28cc783a6b48e39ac ./getdate.y
> > fce6f5ec314eaea09170b79a0711d07e ./ls.c
> > 75d64926376a5440b7e23b295417a6cc ./main.c
> > 2599f1f22d557b076ff1cde9b17cff55 ./misc.c
> > 2c4e3bb00a37b839d9ac0dc0e12a88bc ./operator.c
> > 3157efe1ed3821e96fec71f1ca4b2306 ./option.c
> > 7ea8adb4cb549b118b903238f43afd37 ./function.o
> > 12f6a75a82f817e1306c323fdddbff59 ./ls.o
> > e97d015d2e5fbeb3fdff4fa22b76f0e2 ./main.o
> > 2a5100f2c5ed4c9408ab51d6e2a848cc ./misc.o
> > 6360e963e0f285fe3dc170309a2ae219 ./operator.o
> > 68c47f622cb1d4d8f58ff7b2ef2c8312 ./option.o
> > 47a8978565c6cb8b0280c231679847ba ./getdate.c
> > 7eb3a4e4984e4696347501eeba2e0566 ./getdate.o
> > e406e4422cf29f3b42484596524b71c1 ./find
> > e3ea95347aa5efd7030103536c23a8d3 ./find.1.gz
> > 4b1fd4eb69577f53bd97d8cd2159c8eb ./md5find
> > 03d161fcb84fb38aad6ccd8ce0cafeaf ./testdir
> > 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./testdir/find.c
> >
> >
> > ....etc
> >
> > Waitman Gobble
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>         where, Sir, is the header?!
>
> which header?

this example I just copied /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ (entire directory
contents) to my home directory then "added".

#include <md5.h> to the top of function.c (with the other includes, order
/may/ matter.. i did after the sys/ includes but before the others)

md5.h is in /usr/include, it's basically a wrapper around
/usr/include/sys/md5.h


then changed the function int f_print, added two lines
char * md5sum[32];
        (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));

then changed the two lines in Makefile, PROGNAME so i don't end up with
'find' executable and the other is -lmd so i get the library with md5
routines.

I think maybe I wasn't clear that i was editing function.c, and that there
is more to function.c than my example code.

I can put the source on git if you want, but it's pretty basic. Also i'd
have to research the second parameter in MD5File function, i don't actually
think that's what i thought it was. it is returning the correct hash, and
printing it out, as returned from the function.

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California

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> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:47:04 -0700
> From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> Subject: Re: cksum entire dir??
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:57AM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> >
[sneck]
> >
> > are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my 
> > GNU/Linux machines.
> >
>
>  yup, you be right.  altho we have no md5 [[does FBSD?]], fedora does 
>  have md5sum.  makes me wonder why this flavor didnt do at least a 
>  symlink.   oh well.

to find out what you do have, try 'apropos'.
e.g.
   apropos checksum
   apropos md5
   apropos sha

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 05:42:43PM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:58:00PM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:55:57 -0700
> > > > > Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > >         [[ ...]]
> > > > >
> > > > > My Linux system has both md5sum and md5deep. They give the same
> > result,
> > > > except that md5sum quotes the file name in the current directory, and
> > > > md5deep gives the fully-qualified name. I have been using md5deep - I
> > > > didn't know md5sum existed.
> > > >
> > > > I did a yum install md5* and got deep! :_)
> > > >
> > > > t.y
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > also "maybe???" of interest.. it's pretty quick & easy to hack the 'find'
> > > function in /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ with md5 capability..
> > > not sure if it's helpful..
> > >
> > >
> > > copy /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ somewhere, then edit function.c,
> > >
> > > #include <md5.h>
> > >
> > > int
> > > f_print(PLAN *plan __unused, FTSENT *entry)
> > > {
> > >         char * md5sum[32];
> > >         (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));
> > >         (void)puts(entry->fts_path);
> > >         return 1;
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > and edit Makefile (change exec name,
> > >
> > > PROG=   md5find
> > > LDADD+= -lmd
> > >
> > > then "make"..
> > >
> > > run it:
> > >
> > > ./md5find .
> > > 224df9d178aa35cb532664ea37875791 .
> > > bfe464b3ac942e85d8b818a9441e2286 ./find.o
> > > 0fc28847bb344166ff0f7f4c12d6e4ed ./Makefile
> > > beb4c49ba914f62da0b57b16778c1772 ./extern.h
> > > 8895f62adaa15b194dec6f15e4c5956b ./find.1
> > > 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./find.c
> > > 99fade54bb9baf0d3b4d8822d53800b3 ./find.h
> > > 23f43527a2bdc3abf1e8eaa1aca68f26 ./function.c
> > > 1d25eb09d42261b28cc783a6b48e39ac ./getdate.y
> > > fce6f5ec314eaea09170b79a0711d07e ./ls.c
> > > 75d64926376a5440b7e23b295417a6cc ./main.c
> > > 2599f1f22d557b076ff1cde9b17cff55 ./misc.c
> > > 2c4e3bb00a37b839d9ac0dc0e12a88bc ./operator.c
> > > 3157efe1ed3821e96fec71f1ca4b2306 ./option.c
> > > 7ea8adb4cb549b118b903238f43afd37 ./function.o
> > > 12f6a75a82f817e1306c323fdddbff59 ./ls.o
> > > e97d015d2e5fbeb3fdff4fa22b76f0e2 ./main.o
> > > 2a5100f2c5ed4c9408ab51d6e2a848cc ./misc.o
> > > 6360e963e0f285fe3dc170309a2ae219 ./operator.o
> > > 68c47f622cb1d4d8f58ff7b2ef2c8312 ./option.o
> > > 47a8978565c6cb8b0280c231679847ba ./getdate.c
> > > 7eb3a4e4984e4696347501eeba2e0566 ./getdate.o
> > > e406e4422cf29f3b42484596524b71c1 ./find
> > > e3ea95347aa5efd7030103536c23a8d3 ./find.1.gz
> > > 4b1fd4eb69577f53bd97d8cd2159c8eb ./md5find
> > > 03d161fcb84fb38aad6ccd8ce0cafeaf ./testdir
> > > 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./testdir/find.c
> > >
> > >
> > > ....etc
> > >
> > > Waitman Gobble
> > > San Jose California
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> >         where, Sir, is the header?!
> >
> > which header?
> 
> this example I just copied /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ (entire directory
> contents) to my home directory then "added".
> 
> #include <md5.h> to the top of function.c (with the other includes, order
> /may/ matter.. i did after the sys/ includes but before the others)
> 
> md5.h is in /usr/include, it's basically a wrapper around
> /usr/include/sys/md5.h


	sounds reasonable.  if you have this compiler on fedsora, I'd like to
	see it for myself.  I think I have gcc* installed.

	so, whenever you have time... .


> 
> 
> then changed the function int f_print, added two lines
> char * md5sum[32];
>         (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));
> 
> then changed the two lines in Makefile, PROGNAME so i don't end up with
> 'find' executable and the other is -lmd so i get the library with md5
> routines.
> 
> I think maybe I wasn't clear that i was editing function.c, and that there
> is more to function.c than my example code.
> 
> I can put the source on git if you want, but it's pretty basic. Also i'd
> have to research the second parameter in MD5File function, i don't actually
> think that's what i thought it was. it is returning the correct hash, and
> printing it out, as returned from the function.
> 
> Waitman Gobble
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> > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:47:04 -0700
> > From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> > Subject: Re: cksum entire dir??
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:57AM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> > >
> [sneck]
> > >
> > > are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my 
> > > GNU/Linux machines.
> > >
> >
> >  yup, you be right.  altho we have no md5 [[does FBSD?]], fedora does 
> >  have md5sum.  makes me wonder why this flavor didnt do at least a 
> >  symlink.   oh well.
> 
> to find out what you do have, try 'apropos'.
> e.g.
>    apropos checksum
>    apropos md5
>    apropos sha


	this was the second thing I did.  I have basically 
	cksum and sum

	on this fedora box.

	oh, and now, md5sum.

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 05:42:43PM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:58:00PM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Mike Jeays wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:55:57 -0700
> > > > > > Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Gary Kline <
> kline@thought.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > >         [[ ...]]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My Linux system has both md5sum and md5deep. They give the same
> > > result,
> > > > > except that md5sum quotes the file name in the current directory,
> and
> > > > > md5deep gives the fully-qualified name. I have been using md5deep
> - I
> > > > > didn't know md5sum existed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did a yum install md5* and got deep! :_)
> > > > >
> > > > > t.y
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > also "maybe???" of interest.. it's pretty quick & easy to hack the
> 'find'
> > > > function in /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ with md5 capability..
> > > > not sure if it's helpful..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > copy /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ somewhere, then edit function.c,
> > > >
> > > > #include <md5.h>
> > > >
> > > > int
> > > > f_print(PLAN *plan __unused, FTSENT *entry)
> > > > {
> > > >         char * md5sum[32];
> > > >         (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));
> > > >         (void)puts(entry->fts_path);
> > > >         return 1;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > and edit Makefile (change exec name,
> > > >
> > > > PROG=   md5find
> > > > LDADD+= -lmd
> > > >
> > > > then "make"..
> > > >
> > > > run it:
> > > >
> > > > ./md5find .
> > > > 224df9d178aa35cb532664ea37875791 .
> > > > bfe464b3ac942e85d8b818a9441e2286 ./find.o
> > > > 0fc28847bb344166ff0f7f4c12d6e4ed ./Makefile
> > > > beb4c49ba914f62da0b57b16778c1772 ./extern.h
> > > > 8895f62adaa15b194dec6f15e4c5956b ./find.1
> > > > 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./find.c
> > > > 99fade54bb9baf0d3b4d8822d53800b3 ./find.h
> > > > 23f43527a2bdc3abf1e8eaa1aca68f26 ./function.c
> > > > 1d25eb09d42261b28cc783a6b48e39ac ./getdate.y
> > > > fce6f5ec314eaea09170b79a0711d07e ./ls.c
> > > > 75d64926376a5440b7e23b295417a6cc ./main.c
> > > > 2599f1f22d557b076ff1cde9b17cff55 ./misc.c
> > > > 2c4e3bb00a37b839d9ac0dc0e12a88bc ./operator.c
> > > > 3157efe1ed3821e96fec71f1ca4b2306 ./option.c
> > > > 7ea8adb4cb549b118b903238f43afd37 ./function.o
> > > > 12f6a75a82f817e1306c323fdddbff59 ./ls.o
> > > > e97d015d2e5fbeb3fdff4fa22b76f0e2 ./main.o
> > > > 2a5100f2c5ed4c9408ab51d6e2a848cc ./misc.o
> > > > 6360e963e0f285fe3dc170309a2ae219 ./operator.o
> > > > 68c47f622cb1d4d8f58ff7b2ef2c8312 ./option.o
> > > > 47a8978565c6cb8b0280c231679847ba ./getdate.c
> > > > 7eb3a4e4984e4696347501eeba2e0566 ./getdate.o
> > > > e406e4422cf29f3b42484596524b71c1 ./find
> > > > e3ea95347aa5efd7030103536c23a8d3 ./find.1.gz
> > > > 4b1fd4eb69577f53bd97d8cd2159c8eb ./md5find
> > > > 03d161fcb84fb38aad6ccd8ce0cafeaf ./testdir
> > > > 8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./testdir/find.c
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ....etc
> > > >
> > > > Waitman Gobble
> > > > San Jose California
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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> > > o
> > >         where, Sir, is the header?!
> > >
> > > which header?
> >
> > this example I just copied /usr/src/usr.bin/find/ (entire directory
> > contents) to my home directory then "added".
> >
> > #include <md5.h> to the top of function.c (with the other includes, order
> > /may/ matter.. i did after the sys/ includes but before the others)
> >
> > md5.h is in /usr/include, it's basically a wrapper around
> > /usr/include/sys/md5.h
>
>
>         sounds reasonable.  if you have this compiler on fedsora, I'd like
> to
>         see it for myself.  I think I have gcc* installed.
>
>         so, whenever you have time... .
>
>
I'm not sure it's a good use of time (?) considering, as someone mentioned
previously, mtree is already working. In the case of doing the find/md5
tinkering project on Fedora or other GNU/Linux distributions, it would
likely IMHO be best to use non-BSD, ie Liinux 'find' and 'md5' sources.

I do think mtree (already mentioned) is the best way to go.... You dump the
checksum, etc into a file and use the file to verify the other path.

 example:

$ mtree -K sha256digest,uname,gname -c -p . > structure.mtree

$ cat structure.mtree
#          user: waitman
#       machine: hunny.waitman.net
#          tree: /usr/home/waitman/find/find
#          date: Wed Sep 12 22:44:38 2012

# .
/set type=file uname=root uid=0 gname=wheel gid=0 mode=0644 nlink=1
flags=none
.               type=dir mode=0755 nlink=3 size=512 \
                time=1347515078.000000000
    Makefile    size=246 time=1347489991.000000000 \

sha256digest=76ad379ec19abe85a2b0b102a97a629cee4a7002526243893785d4d7223e6cd4
    extern.h    size=3432 time=1344701404.000000000 \

sha256digest=ef2c12d8a8d9c6e1be8bfc368d4b3c359820d98e31710471469303f17fda0d29
    find        mode=0755 size=61285 time=1347489971.000000000 \

sha256digest=f9a0e343bdca72839d025fe364c008cc77c0f3ef195bcc748327e623fd4b1211




Verify / Compare

# mtree -p . < structure.mtree
. changed
    modification time expected Wed Sep 12 22:44:38 2012 found Wed Sep 12
22:44:57 2012
structure.mtree changed
    size expected 0 found 3023
    SHA-256 expected
e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855 found
ad52a8d8c35dbdfd75bed88a6590bf75fadf55113f5288fa0acca9e11c8bdba1
./structure.txt missing


Was there a reason not to use mtree?

Waitman Gobble
San Jose California





> >
> >
> > then changed the function int f_print, added two lines
> > char * md5sum[32];
> >         (void)printf("%s ",MD5File(entry->fts_accpath,md5sum));
> >
> > then changed the two lines in Makefile, PROGNAME so i don't end up with
> > 'find' executable and the other is -lmd so i get the library with md5
> > routines.
> >
> > I think maybe I wasn't clear that i was editing function.c, and that
> there
> > is more to function.c than my example code.
> >
> > I can put the source on git if you want, but it's pretty basic. Also i'd
> > have to research the second parameter in MD5File function, i don't
> actually
> > think that's what i thought it was. it is returning the correct hash, and
> > printing it out, as returned from the function.
> >
> > Waitman Gobble
> > San Jose California
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Dieter BSD <dieterbsd <at> engineer.com> writes:

> 
> [ no response on mozilla@ list, trying questions@ ]
> 
> I have a problem with various parts of web pages stopping
> before getting completely downloaded. Links has a useful retries
> setting (setup->network options->retries) which seems to fix
> this. I need a similar fix for firefox 3.6.2

Firefox 15
URL: about:config
search: retry
network.http.connection-retry-timeout;250

jb





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Hi all,

 I am having troubles using sphinxsearch 2.0.5 under a freebsd 8.3
hosts ... Daniel Ylitalo asked the same question a few months ago:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-June/242875.html

 and my response to Michael Powell about using from the ports system
is negative ...

Will FreeBSD 9.1 support posix pthread shared mutex??

Thanks

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On Wednesday 12 September 2012 22:29:45 Gary Kline wrote:

> 	how, with mtree, could I tell  whether dir1 =3D=3D dir2 or not?

=46rom the manpage:

``The mtree utility compares the file hierarchy rooted in the
current directory against a specification read from the standard
input.  Messages are written to the standard output for any files
whose characteristics do not match the specifications, or which
are missing from either the file hierarchy or the specification.''

So you run mtree twice, once against dir1 with the -c option to output the=
=20
specification for the directory tree to stdout (which you can capture to a=
=20
file, or pipe straight into the second invocation) and once against dir2 wi=
th=20
the output of the first one as input (either in a pipeline, or by using -f=
=20
with the filename of the captured output).

Jonathan

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Perhaps this would be a question best asked in a Linux Forum or on a Fedora list in that
case.  This is, after all, the FreeBSD Questions mailing list.


On 12-09-12 9:12 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 08:17:16PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>>> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:47:04 -0700
>>> From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
>>> Subject: Re: cksum entire dir??
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:57AM -0700, Waitman Gobble wrote:
>> [sneck]
>>>> are you sure it's not 'md5sum' ? ... that seems to be on all my 
>>>> GNU/Linux machines.
>>>>
>>>  yup, you be right.  altho we have no md5 [[does FBSD?]], fedora does 
>>>  have md5sum.  makes me wonder why this flavor didnt do at least a 
>>>  symlink.   oh well.
>> to find out what you do have, try 'apropos'.
>> e.g.
>>    apropos checksum
>>    apropos md5
>>    apropos sha
>
> 	this was the second thing I did.  I have basically 
> 	cksum and sum
>
> 	on this fedora box.
>
> 	oh, and now, md5sum.
>
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What I'm wanting to do is build/installworld from my workstation to a
remote machine but both have different /etc/src.conf and kernel
configuration files.  Is there a way to define seperate files so I can
perform this upgrade without any errors?

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Seems slight issue with an intel X540T2 card at 10Gb, we have a
Fujitsu X0440 10/40Gb switch, however the card only seems to negotiate
1Gb
ifconfig -m ix0
ix0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=401bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,VLAN_HWTSO>
        capabilities=1505bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,LRO,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,NETMAP>
        ether a0:36:9f:0e:ae:8c
        inet6 fe80::a236:9fff:fe0e:ae8c%ix0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
        inet 192.168.1.246 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
        nd6 options=29<PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
        status: active
        supported media:
                media autoselect
                media 10Gbase-T
# ifconfig ix0 media 10Gbase-T
ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Invalid argument
# ifconfig ix0 media autoselect


and it doesnt seem to support the ifconfig ix0 media 10Gbase-T any ideas

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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:23:47AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 September 2012 22:29:45 Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> > 	how, with mtree, could I tell  whether dir1 == dir2 or not?
> 
> From the manpage:
> 
> ``The mtree utility compares the file hierarchy rooted in the
> current directory against a specification read from the standard
> input.  Messages are written to the standard output for any files
> whose characteristics do not match the specifications, or which
> are missing from either the file hierarchy or the specification.''
> 
> So you run mtree twice, once against dir1 with the -c option to output the 
> specification for the directory tree to stdout (which you can capture to a 
> file, or pipe straight into the second invocation) and once against dir2 with 
> the output of the first one as input (either in a pipeline, or by using -f 
> with the filename of the captured output).
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	I'm having unexpected troubles with my old BSD server.  ...

	I've seen Waitman's examples, and your paragraphs above--[thankx, both
	of you, BTW].  I'Ve got several hours of piecing the fragments of my
	original *desktop* back together.  Following that, I'll be back.

	gary


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Here's a simple, system-independent way to find duplicate files.  All you
need is something to generate a digest you trust (MD5, SHA1, whatever) plus
normal Unix stuff: awk, expand, grep, join, sort, and uniq.

Generate the signatures:

  me% cd ~/bin
  me% find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5 -r | sort > /tmp/sig1

  me% cat /tmp/sig1
  0287839688bd660676582266685b05bd ./mkrcs
  0b97494883c76da546e3603d1b65e7b2 ./pwgen
  ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./authlog
  ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./cmdlog
  fdff1fd84d47f76dbd4954c607d66714 ./dbrun
  ff5e24efec5cf1e17cf32c58e9c4b317 ./tr0

Find duplicate signatures:

  me% awk '{print $1}' /tmp/sig1 | uniq -c | expand | grep -v "^  *1 "
        2 ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c

  me% awk '{print $1}' /tmp/sig1 | uniq -c | expand | grep -v "^  *1 " |
      awk '{print $2}' > /tmp/sig2

Associate the duplicates with files:

  me% join /tmp/sig[12]
  ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./authlog
  ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./cmdlog

If your filenames contain whitespace, you can URL-encode them, play some
games with awk, or use perl.

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:29:47 -0400, Gardner Bell wrote:
> What I'm wanting to do is build/installworld from my workstation to a
> remote machine but both have different /etc/src.conf and kernel
> configuration files.  Is there a way to define seperate files so I can
> perform this upgrade without any errors?

I assume that you run i386 _or_ amd64 on both systems.
It's easy to copy the remote machine's /etc/src.conf
to the system you're building on and to _temporarily_
replace the /etc/src.conf of that system. Also copy
the kernel configuration file and put it into the
correct location (/sys/i386/conf or /sys/amd64/conf).

Make sure /usr/obj is empty.

Then use the build and install parameter DESTDIR=
and pay attention to other upgrading steps as listed
in the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile.

Also see The FreeBSD Handbook, section 25.7:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

Rgarding /etc/rc.conf, I'm not aware of specifying
a _different_ file name than the default one (i. e.,
what KERNCONF= does to override GENERIC), so maybe
maybe dealing with a symlink in /etc/ would be the
least painful way: src.conf -> src.conf.local (fits
the machine you build on) _or_ -> src.conf.remote
(fits the machine you build for). You could also
create symlinks pointing to their location on the
NFS file system (that the remote machine promotes
to the build system): src.conf -> src.conf.local
(fits the machine you build on) _or_ (now mounted
via NFS) -> /mnt/remotehost/etc/src.conf (fits the
machine you build for); and a similar symlink for
/sys/i386/conf/REMOTE -> /mnt/remotehost/sys/i386/conf/MYKERNEL.

I know that looks ugly, but it's the easies solution
that currently occurs to my mind. :-)



-- 
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Hi Gardner

Polytropon wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:29:47 -0400, Gardner Bell wrote:
> > What I'm wanting to do is build/installworld from my workstation to a
> > remote machine but both have different /etc/src.conf and kernel
> > configuration files.  Is there a way to define seperate files so I can
> > perform this upgrade without any errors?

I fairly often do make installs over amd+nfs,
a few gotchas to avoid getting caught on:
- I saw my link count break in /rescue so du exploded 
	(up by presumably about (137-1 x 4.7M )
  (Cant remember why, I just fixed it)
- Chflags bit me (maybe I didnt have the right stuff in
  /etc/exports on target. (I hate chflags. & often run chflags -R noschg / )
- If both might be i386, & target might < 686 eg 586 etc
  avoid source host having any files lurking in /usr/obj  
  that were built while /etc/make.conf (& included files)
  had a CFLAGS += -march=i686

Maybe practice on a local host first, where you can reach reset knob.

Cheers,
Julian
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 10:46:25 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On 12/09/2012 00:14, Polytropon wrote:
> > > 	% cksum <directory>
> > > 
> > > and could obtain a checksum - so it _seems_ to work.
> > > After alteration of one file within the hierarchy a
> > > different result was printed.
> > 
> > That will give you a checksum on the directory inode -- file names and
> > associated metadata only, not file content.  In theory you could edit a
> > file without modifying any of the timestamps, and that wouldn't result
> > in any change to the directory checksum.  Also, modifying things a few
> > layers down the filesystem hierarchy won't have any effect either.
> > 
> > Generally I find the best test for differences between old and new
> > copies of a filesystem is 'rsync -avx -n ...'
> > 
> > Also, sum and cksum have way too small a key size for this to be
> > reliable, since you can't tell a true result from a hash collision.  Use
> > md5 or sha1 or sha256 for best results.
> > 
> 
> 	So this sha256 is *real*??  I have no md5 on my "fedora"
> 	that is on my desktop and m having trouble getting used to.  
> 	but the gentleman who recommened cpio was right on the money.
> 
> 	note that I am loathe to spam this list with the following mail from my
> 	files in sept, 1988, but here it is.  if I had only gr -r -w cpio
> 	around in all my directories, I would have found this, sent to one Dirm
> 	Myers across the pond ::
> 
> 
> 	===
> 
> From kline Sat Sep  5 11:52:20 1998
> Subject: lost mail file...
> To: dirkm@buster.dhis.eu.org (Dirk Myers)
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
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> 
>   Yesterday morning I began composing the next two Q's and A's
>   in my mailer.  Last night in the wee hours there was a power
>   glitch and I lost the mail.
> 
>   Enclosed is the first//next Q/A.  I'll send along another one
>   or two later today.  One that I was playing around with *failed*
>   and I'm trying to figure out why.
> 
>   -----
> 
>   How can I uise my FBSD floppy drive to copy files to it (in this case,
>   at work), and retrieve the files on my FBSD systtem at home.  So far
>   I've only seen examples that used floppies with a filesystem on them.
>   Is there a simplr, more direct way?
> 
>   You can treat the 'raw' floppy device as if it is a tape drive, and
>   use typically UNIX tape tools to read/write, such as tar and  cpio.
>   For instance, to copy the current directory onto a floppy to
>   take home at night:
> 
>         (put the floppy in the drive, and cd to the directory where
>          the files are; then )
> 
>         % tar -cvf /dev/rfd0 .
> 
>   To read it when you get home:
> 
>         (put the floppy in the drive at home; and extract the tarball
>          wherever you want the files)
> 
>         % tar -xvf /dev/rfd0
> 
>   The flags -c and -x indicate create and extract mode, the ``v''
>   specifies verbose mode, and the ``f'' tells tar that the following
>   argument is the file or device that tar acts upon.  Here, it is
>   the floppy devide.
> 
> 
>   With cpio:
> 
>         (chdir to the directory where the files are)
> 
>         % ls | cpio -oc > /dev/rfd0
> 
>        To read a cpio archive from a tape drive:
> 
>        % cpio -icd < /dev/rfd0
> 
> 
>        The flags -i and -o indicate copy-in or extract mode and
>        copy-out or create archive mode.   The ``c'' tells cpio
>        to use the old, portablr ASCII archive format.  And the
>        ``d'' flag tells cpio to create directories where necessary.
> 
>        Do a
> 
>        % man cpio
> 
>        for much greater detail on this utility.
> 
>   -----
> 
>   There are another one or two of the simpler Q/A's and one or two
>   more involved.
> 
>   Then, for this month only, I want to write a paragraph or two
>   about who I am and where I'm coming from.  Since you are sharing
>   the by-line you might want to consider this too.
> 
>   gary
> 
>   PS:   Next month we get a break!!
> 
> --
>    Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service uNix
> 
> 	====
> 	as you can see, this dealt with my olden tape drive.  a 250meg
> 	QIC drive, I think.  

Really? I think /dev/rfd0 refers to fd - floppy disk. Even
though I know there are floppy-controller connected tape
drives (still have one myself!), the examples shown seem
to indicate work with a floppy disk, used in a "non-fs'ed"
manner, just as I did in the past with "tar, the most
universal file system that isn't even a filesystem" to
transfer files across different UNIX / BSD / Linux boxes
via floppy (because they've not been networked). Still the
examples look fully valid when applied to a tape drive, as
both floppy and tape can be (ab)used as "linear fs-less
media". :-)



>  but this was about the earliest reference 
> 	I could find re my use of cpio.  there are others in my journal 
> 	dir that reference my running out of hard drive and using cpio rather
> 	that a straight cp -rp. 

I've been using cpio as a means of backup in combination
with a "chain" of 650 MB CD-R's.





-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Micka=EBl Can=E9vet <canevet@embl.fr> wrot=
e:
> On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 10:03 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>> Micka=EBl Can=E9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:05 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>> >> Micka=EBl Can=E9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch:
>> >> > http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch
>> >> >
>> >> > What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that onl=
y
>> >> > about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I wa=
s
>> >> > wondering why it didn't take the whole 4GB up to the crash of the s=
erver
>> >> > because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more th=
en
>> >> > 500MB of data in swap ?
>> >>
>> >> limits(1)?
>> >>
>> > Thank you for your answer.
>> >
>> > Here is the result of limits:
>> >
>> > limits
>> > Resource limits (current):
>> >   cputime              infinity secs
>> >   filesize             infinity kB
>> >   datasize             33554432 kB
>> >   stacksize              524288 kB
>> >   coredumpsize         infinity kB
>> >   memoryuse            infinity kB
>> >   memorylocked         infinity kB
>> >   maxprocesses             5547
>> >   openfiles               11095
>> >   sbsize               infinity bytes
>> >   vmemoryuse           infinity kB
>> >   pseudo-terminals     infinity
>> >   swapuse              infinity kB
>> >
>> > swapuse is set to unlimited, but stacksize is set to 512MB.
>> > Is it the stacksize setting that prevent my kernel to swap more then
>> > 512MB ?
>>
>> No, I don't think so. datasize was the parameter I was most
>> suspecting; and it assumes that a particular process was causing the
>> crash (which is unlikely; the OS is supposed to protect you against
>> it).
>>
>> Most likely, the crash was not directly caused by a shortage of virtual
>> memory. You would have to diagnose through crash dumps, but it could be
>> that some more specific resource was exhausted. Or perhaps the memory
>> leak left dangling references in a vnode.
>>

We also had a some what similar experience - swap partition was not
being fully utilized (but no NFS in use). Found that the size of
SWAPMETA limits the total usable swap space. This is more likely with
a custom config and tweaked limits.

vmstat -z | egrep "LIMIT|SWAPMETA"

--- sriram


>
> OK,
>
> Thanks a lot for your explanations.
>
> Cheers,
> Micka=EBl

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On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:35 PM, <kpneal@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 03:18:43PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote:
> > Here's a simple, system-independent way to find duplicate files.  All you
> > need is something to generate a digest you trust (MD5, SHA1, whatever)
> plus
> > normal Unix stuff: awk, expand, grep, join, sort, and uniq.
> >
> > Generate the signatures:
> >
> >   me% cd ~/bin
> >   me% find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5 -r | sort > /tmp/sig1
> >
> >   me% cat /tmp/sig1
> >   0287839688bd660676582266685b05bd ./mkrcs
> >   0b97494883c76da546e3603d1b65e7b2 ./pwgen
> >   ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./authlog
> >   ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c ./cmdlog
> >   fdff1fd84d47f76dbd4954c607d66714 ./dbrun
> >   ff5e24efec5cf1e17cf32c58e9c4b317 ./tr0
> >
> > Find duplicate signatures:
> >
> >   me% awk '{print $1}' /tmp/sig1 | uniq -c | expand | grep -v "^  *1 "
> >         2 ddbed53e795724e4a6683e7b0987284c
>
> you% awk '{print $1}' /tmp/sig1 | uniq -d
>
> But in both your and my code the uniq will frequently fail because the
> input is not sorted. The uniq command only works when the lines to compare
> are adjacent. So...
>
> you% awk '{print $1}' /tmp/sig1 | sort | uniq -d
> --
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Hi,

But what happens when, like in my 'md5 file' tinkering example above,
there's one or more identical files along the path which may or may not
exist in both hierarchies? For example, the BSD License file. In my
previous message I purposely made a 'testdir' and copied a file into that
dir... they have the same hash.

Anyway I was thinking if I had proceeded with the tinker example, using
sys/tree.h and creating an associative array and using the relative path
and filename, along with the md5 hash, as the key. So the keys would be
like

[8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./find.c]
[8d3986a5e8747ae89b3c5f82f22bc402 ./testdir/find.c]

then you'd have path A and path B to compare, which i think basically add 1
for A and 2 for B, so you'd know a "1" would be in "A" only, or "2" would
be in "B" only, and "3" would be in both A and B.

[e406e4422cf29f3b42484596524b71c1 ./find] => 1 //A only
[e3ea95347aa5efd7030103536c23a8d3 ./find.1.gz] => 3 //OK
[4b1fd4eb69577f53bd97d8cd2159c8eb ./md5find] => 3 //OK
[03d161fcb84fb38aad6ccd8ce0cafeaf ./testdir] => 2 //B only



But again I have to say that mtree already does this very well...

Here's an example of mtree for Gary to compare two paths, hopefully helpful.


set up two things to compare, A and B

# mkdir A B
# touch A/1 A/2 A/3 A/4
# find A
A
A/1
A/2
A/3
A/4

# rsync -av A B
sending incremental file list
A/
A/1
A/2
A/3
A/4

sent 236 bytes  received 92 bytes  656.00 bytes/sec
total size is 0  speedup is 0.00

# find B
B
B/A
B/A/1
B/A/2
B/A/3
B/A/4


compare with mtree

# mtree -K sha256digest,uname,gname -c -p A | mtree -p B/A

{no output = OK they match, default: only report situations}


now mess up B

# rm B/A/3
# touch B/A/2
# touch B/A/extrabonusfile


compare again

# mtree -K sha256digest,uname,gname -c -p A | mtree -p B/A

. changed
    modification time expected Thu Sep 13 22:33:02 2012 found Thu Sep 13
22:43:46 2012
2 changed
    modification time expected Thu Sep 13 22:33:02 2012 found Thu Sep 13
22:38:01 2012
extrabonusfile extra
./3 missing


Waitman Gobble
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Hello.

2012/09/05 09:06:36 +0700 Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su> => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :
VS> > Depending on a task I think the most interactive user-friendly solution here is
VS> > a minicom(s) each in its own ssh'ed jail(s).
VS> 
VS> There is special Windows software for managing Natex MUXes. It works

[..]

VS> Solution 2. Using an existing networked FreeBSD box sitting next to
VS> the MUX, it already has COM ports. Advantage: cheap, no additional

ok. no interactivity. But I'm still optimistic about virtualization.

emulators/qemu at the least should be able to run that software and use
com-ports from the master freebsd system at the same time. Then you can you can
use remote access features for workstation access to the software.

VS> doubts ... English is so poor

coffee is your friend (c)

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On Fri, 2012-09-14 at 08:36 +0530, Sriram Gorti wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Micka=C3=ABl Can=C3=A9vet <canevet@embl.=
fr> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 10:03 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> >> Micka=C3=ABl Can=C3=A9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:05 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> >> >> Micka=C3=ABl Can=C3=A9vet <canevet@embl.fr> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I was impacted by a memory leak that has been fixed by this patch=
:
> >> >> > http://people.freebsd.org/~rmacklem/namei-leak.patch
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I noticed when the server was paging is that it seems that o=
nly
> >> >> > about 500MB of my 4GB swap partition was used before crashing. I =
was
> >> >> > wondering why it didn't take the whole 4GB up to the crash of the=
 server
> >> >> > because of lake of memory (that would let me more time to react).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is there such king of setting that prevent a process to put more =
then
> >> >> > 500MB of data in swap ?
> >> >>
> >> >> limits(1)?
> >> >>
> >> > Thank you for your answer.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the result of limits:
> >> >
> >> > limits
> >> > Resource limits (current):
> >> >   cputime              infinity secs
> >> >   filesize             infinity kB
> >> >   datasize             33554432 kB
> >> >   stacksize              524288 kB
> >> >   coredumpsize         infinity kB
> >> >   memoryuse            infinity kB
> >> >   memorylocked         infinity kB
> >> >   maxprocesses             5547
> >> >   openfiles               11095
> >> >   sbsize               infinity bytes
> >> >   vmemoryuse           infinity kB
> >> >   pseudo-terminals     infinity
> >> >   swapuse              infinity kB
> >> >
> >> > swapuse is set to unlimited, but stacksize is set to 512MB.
> >> > Is it the stacksize setting that prevent my kernel to swap more then
> >> > 512MB ?
> >>
> >> No, I don't think so. datasize was the parameter I was most
> >> suspecting; and it assumes that a particular process was causing the
> >> crash (which is unlikely; the OS is supposed to protect you against
> >> it).
> >>
> >> Most likely, the crash was not directly caused by a shortage of virtua=
l
> >> memory. You would have to diagnose through crash dumps, but it could b=
e
> >> that some more specific resource was exhausted. Or perhaps the memory
> >> leak left dangling references in a vnode.
> >>
>=20
> We also had a some what similar experience - swap partition was not
> being fully utilized (but no NFS in use). Found that the size of
> SWAPMETA limits the total usable swap space. This is more likely with
> a custom config and tweaked limits.
>=20
> vmstat -z | egrep "LIMIT|SWAPMETA"
>=20
> --- sriram
>=20
>=20
> >
> > OK,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your explanations.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Micka=C3=ABl
>=20

I have this:

# vmstat -z | egrep "LIMIT|SWAPMETA"
ITEM                   SIZE  LIMIT     USED     FREE      REQ FAIL SLEEP
SWAPMETA:               288, 116519,    1610,    6437,  559839,   0,   0

If this number (116519) correspond to the number of memory pages and as
I have 4k page size (pagesize command reports 4096), SWAPMETA is limited
to 466076 kB which is pretty close to the "about" 500MB I can see on my
monitoring graphs.

If this is the explanation of what happens, how can I tune this ? Should
I use larger pages (superpages seems to be enable by default on
FreeBSD9-amd64) ? Is there a way to increase the limit of swapmeta ?

Thanks,
Micka=C3=ABl

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Matthias,=20Polytropon:

I=20have=20answered=20to=20your=20messages=20using=20"reply=20to"=20but=20=
my=20messages
haven't=20reached=20the=20mailing=20list.=20I=20am=20posting=20now=20my=20=
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new=20(not=20reply=20to)=20mail.

Thank=20you=20for=20your=20answers.
I=20am=20using=20KDE=203.5.10.=20I=20would=20like=20to=20use=20FreeBSD=20=
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for=20replacing=20openSUSE=20if=20it=20is=20possible=20at=20all.

For=20clarity,=20I=20do=20not=20need=20exactly=20kinternet,=20I=20want=20=
only=20an=20GUI=20frontend
for=20pppdial=20which=20possibly=20resides=20in=20system=20tray=20and=20c=
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network=20connections.

In=20openSUSE=20kinternet=20is=20a=20frontend=20for=20smpppd=20package.
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work=20with=20FreeBSD's=20ppp.

Thanks,

Istvan

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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:05:03 +0200, suseuser04@lajt.hu wrote:
> Matthias, Polytropon:
> 
> I have answered to your messages using "reply to" but my messages
> haven't reached the mailing list. I am posting now my answer in a
> new (not reply to) mail.

Check your mail client for reply options. I'm using Sylpheed
here and have:
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	- Reply to sender
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I assume this is decided upon the headers From:, Reply-To:,
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so whatever you use, check for such reply options. Even
"old-fashioned" tools like (al)pine have then. :-)



> Thank you for your answers.
> I am using KDE 3.5.10. I would like to use FreeBSD as a desktop machine
> for replacing openSUSE if it is possible at all.

I don't see a reason why this shouldn't be possible. Many years
ago, FreeBSD 4 obsoleted Linux as my home desktop, and I do not
regret the choice. Depending on what _you_ actually *do* with
your computer, there _may_ be certain "obstacles".



> For clarity, I do not need exactly kinternet, I want only an GUI frontend
> for pppdial which possibly resides in system tray and can be used to control
> network connections.

As I said, I've heared of a tool named kppp, and according to
the traditional naming convention in KDE (of _that_ time), I
assume this is a KDE program for dealing with ppp. Even though
networking is done at OS level which doesn't have such a tight
integration with desktop environments as this is done in
Linux (as the "big three" desktop environments are quite
Linux-centric), ppp can be invoked by the user (if he has
been granted the required permissions by the system administrator).
If a KDE program can "communicate" with the ppp command line
tool, it should work.



> In openSUSE kinternet is a frontend for smpppd package.
> smpppd requires ppp. I will try to look into it whether  smpppd  can
> work with FreeBSD's ppp.

That sounds like an interesting approach. Good luck!

I know that's basically possible. Many years ago, I wrote
a Tcl/Tk-based frontend with buttons to enable / disable
the connection, see the status and the elapsed time. If
that has been possible, chances are good that KDE in its
much advanced manner has something comparable.




-- 
Polytropon
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[ suseuser04@lajt.hu wrote on Fri 14.Sep'12 at 11:05:03 +0200 ]

> Matthias, Polytropon:
> 
> I have answered to your messages using "reply to" but my messages
> haven't reached the mailing list. I am posting now my answer in a
> new (not reply to) mail.
> 
> Thank you for your answers.
> I am using KDE 3.5.10. I would like to use FreeBSD as a desktop machine
> for replacing openSUSE if it is possible at all.
 
May I just say, that some years ago I did just as you are doing now and started to use FreeBSD 6.x in place of Linux. I was used to KDE3 and so naturally tried to get that up and running. Since then, my needs have changed and discovered it was so much better to do away with these GUI tools such as the one(s) you refer to. Working from the command line in FreeBSD is SO much better, more flexible and powerful, and so ditched KDE altogether and now use a simple tiling window manager. You really don't need KDE or Gnome, ... , you can benefit much more from a BSD UNIX system without that crap. 

It's your choice naturally but IMO you will have a much nicer experience without KDE. All of your networking needs can be achieved from the command line and you won't fill your system with thousands of libraries and other code that you simply just don't need. 

Of course I'm biased but my experience since I changed to FreeBSD will no doubt be similar to yours should you choose to stick with it so I hope my comments have been of some use.

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2012.=20szeptember=2011.=2015:26=20napon=20Matthias=20Apitz=20<guru@unixa=
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>=20El=20d=C3=ADa=20Tuesday,=20September=2011,=202012=20a=20las=2002:56:0=
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>=20>=20On=20Tue,=2011=20Sep=202012=2011:15:50=20+0200,=20suseuser04@lajt=
.hu=20wrote:
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>=20>=20>=20I=20am=20new=20to=20FreeBSD.=20I've=20been=20using=20openSUSE=
=20for=208=20years=20but=20would
>=20>=20>=20like=20to=20try=20something=20different.
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>=20>=20>=20which=20incorporates=20into=20KDE=20system=20tray=20and=20ind=
icates=20whether=20network
>=20>=20>=20connection=20is=20active=20or=20not.=20It=20can=20also=20be=20=
used=20by=20the=20desktop=20user=20to
>=20>=20>=20disconnect=20and=20connect=20from/to=20the=20network=20(eg.=20=
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>=20>=20>=20IP=20address=20or=20test=20downloaded=20web=20pages=20offline=
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>=20>=20>=20Is=20there=20a=20similar=20program=20in=20FreeBSD?=20I=20coul=
d=20not=20find=20kinternet=20or=20qinternet
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>=20
>=20FreeBSD=20(as=20Linux)=20is=20a=20OS,=20while=20KDE=20is=20just=20a=20=
desktop=20which=20works=20fine
>=20on=20FreeBSD=20and=20SuSE;=20I'm=20using=20kde-3.5.10=20and=20tested=20=
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>=20did=20not=20do=20what=20I=20expected;=20that's=20why=20I=20stay=20wit=
h=203.5.10=20which=20is=20now
>=20unmaintained,=20but=20still=20compiling=20as=20a=20port;
>=20
>=20the=20OP=20did=20not=20say=20in=20which=20KDE=20version=20he=20used=20=
'kinternet',=20=20but=20it
>=20seems=20that=20the=20component=20is=20not=20in=20the=20port;=20the=20=
best=20way=20would=20be=20to
>=20check=20in=20openSUSE=20what=20'kinternet'=20is=20(i.e.=20where=20the=
=20sources=20come=20from)
>=20and=20check=20in=20the=20FreeBSD=20KDE=20project=20the=20status=20of=20=
a=20port;
>=20
>=20=09matthias
>=20

Matthias,=20Polytropon:

Thank=20you=20for=20your=20answers.
I=20am=20using=20KDE=203.5.10.=20I=20would=20like=20to=20use=20FreeBSD=20=
as=20a=20desktop=20machine
for=20replacing=20openSUSE=20if=20it's=20possible=20at=20all.

For=20clarity,=20I=20do=20not=20need=20exactly=20kinternet,=20I=20want=20=
only=20an=20GUI=20frontend
for=20pppdial=20which=20possibly=20resides=20in=20system=20tray=20and=20c=
an=20be=20used=20to
control=20network=20connections.

In=20openSUSE=20kinternet=20is=20a=20frontend=20for=20smpppd=20package,=20=
and
smpppd=20requires=20ppp.=20I=20will=20try=20to=20look=20into=20it=20wheth=
er=20smpppd=20=20can
work=20with=20FreeBSD=20ppp.

Thanks,

Istvan


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>=20=09matthias

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Thank=20you=20for=20your=20answers.
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as=20a=20desktop=20machine=20replacing
openSUSE=20if=20it=20possible=20at=20all.

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nly=20an=20GUI=20frontend=20for=20pppdial=20which
possibly=20resides=20in=20system=20tray=20and=20can=20be=20used=20to=20co=
ntrol=20network=20connections.

In=20openSUSE=20kinternet=20is=20a=20frontend=20for=20smpppd=20package.
smpppd=20requires=20ppp.=20I=20will=20try=20to=20look=20into=20it=20wheth=
er=20=20and=20smpppd=20=20can=20work=20with
FreeBSD=20ppp.

Thanks,

Istvan



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Sirs,



I'm looking at your licence terms and conditions and particularly the secti=
on on "redistribution restriction" on a number of ports.



The restriction is stated as being applicable to "redistribution on mass me=
dia". Could you please elaborate on what this means - clearly a number of l=
eading solutions use FreeBSD so I'm trying to properly understand when and =
how the redistribution restrictions apply.



In our own case we would be using FreeBSD as a component of managed service=
s that we would be providing to our customers. The software would remain on=
 our own server and would not be separately available to our customers. We =
assume therefore that this in any case does not constitute "redistribution"=
.



Many thanks.


Regards,
Martyn
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Hey guys!
I would like to play Minecraft on my FreeBSD box, so I installed 
games/minecraft-client. It starts, but I do not have any sound. The 
reason for that is that Minecraft uses ALSA and ALSA does not find any 
soundcards:

    Starting up SoundSystem...
    Initializing LWJGL OpenAL
         (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL.  For more information, see
    http://www.lwjgl.org)
    AL lib: alsa.c:960: no playback cards found...
    AL lib: alsa.c:1017: no capture cards found...
    ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
    ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
    snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory

I am not sure what to do here and how to wrap my OSS system in an ALSA 
system. I installed audio/alsa-lib, audio/alsa-plugins and 
audio/alsa-utils. My asoundrc looks like this at the moment:

    pcm.oss {
         type oss
         device /dev/dsp
    }


However I cannot play any MP3s via aplay. Do you have any ideas?

Stephan

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K> But in both your and my code the uniq will frequently fail because the
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I am trying to install FreeBSD stable - either 8.3 or 9.0  - on a Dell  
420 with Perc H310 LSI PCI Express SAS Rain controllers.

Although the physical disks are present and recognized by the BIOS the  
sysinstall does not see the disks.  I think the issue is mfi driver  
and was added to the stable release May 18, 2012.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mfi&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD+8.3-RELEASE

I do not have an environment to download the source and make my own  
installation disk.  The 8.3 image on the ftp site is dated April 9,  
2012 and the 9.0 is Jan 2012.

Is there some place I can download an amd63 iso that was includes the  
mfi driver update done on May 18, 2012?

Or perhaps that is not really the issue at all - any help that anyone  
can provide will be welcome!

Thanks,

Jean


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Kevin,

Thank you for your response.  It is great to get confirmation and I  
will try with 9.1-RC1

I DO have on board Broadcom 5720 NIC.  Nice to know what my next  
problem is likely to be.  Hopefully that will be easy to solve if I  
install another NIC card.

Thanks!

Jean


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On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:14 PM, kpneal@pobox.com wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 04:45:49PM -0700, Jean Christofferson wrote:
>> I am trying to install FreeBSD stable - either 8.3 or 9.0  - on a  
>> Dell
>> 420 with Perc H310 LSI PCI Express SAS Raid controllers.
>>
>> Although the physical disks are present and recognized by the BIOS  
>> the
>> sysinstall does not see the disks.  I think the issue is mfi driver
>> and was added to the stable release May 18, 2012.
>
> Yup, the 12G machines came out when the paint was drying on 8.3. So  
> there
> isn't a -stable release with the updated driver.
>
> The new mfi driver is in 9.1-RC1 if you are OK with a pre-release.
>
> I hope you don't have the Broadcom 5720 NIC like the R620. The FreeBSD
> driver (bge) isn't finished yet. At least, I don't remember seeing  
> it go
> into the tree. It's known to _not_ work on the R620 and I believe  
> R720.
> -- 
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Hello Martyn,

14.09.2012 19:16, Martyn Jansen пишет:
> 
> I'm looking at your licence terms and conditions and particularly the section on "redistribution restriction" on a number of ports.
> 

FreeBSD ports system is a set of tools to deal with software created
elsewhere. The information about licences, permissions, etc. should
be looked at the original site, asked to original authors. The source
files may be used for the referrence.

As a starting point I'll suggest using the file pkg-descr at the
port's directory. This file usially hes a refference to the
original site.

Thank you for your interest at the FreeBSD Operating System.
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List,

I've been seeing a lot of this recently when I try to install new ports. The
following is on a fresh install of FreeBSD 9.0 Release, when I tried to install
linux-f10-flashplugin11 from ports. (It happens with several other packages
too)::

    Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin11.

        pkgconf-0.8.9 conflicts with installed package(s):
        pkg-config-0.25_1

So, I try this::

    pkg_delete pkg-config-0.25_1

But of course I can't deinstall it because several hundred already installed
require it.

Suggestions?
-Modulok-

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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:33:09 -0500, <modulok@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> But of course I can't deinstall it because several hundred already  
> installed
> require it.

The required instructions to fix your problem are in /usr/ports/UPDATING.  
Just serarch for pkgconf.


Cheers!

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Hey Guys, 

If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update installed packages?
One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance? Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org

Thx!
Laszlo

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On 2012/09/15 17:16, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update installed packages?

no

> One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance? Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org

i think you mean

http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup

BR
Oli

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Thx!
Yeah, I totally screwed up my last sentence, sorry :)

On 2012. September 15. at 18:23, kron wrote:

> On 2012/09/15 17:16, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
> > Hey Guys,
> > 
> > If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update installed packages?
> 
> no
> 
> > One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance? Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org (http://freebsd.org)
> 
> i think you mean
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup
> 
> BR
> Oli
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Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

> Hey Guys,
> 
> If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
> installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
> Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org
> 

When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
packages/ports. It becomes necessary to rebuild/update whenever changing 
from one major release to another, such as from 8.x to 9.x for example.

If you use csup and a supfile to update src, just use tag=RELENG_8_3 to pull 
in the security maintenance release bits. Currently it is at P4.

-Mike




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Great Mike, 
May I ask what is ABI?

-- 
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On 2012. September 15. at 18:56, Michael Powell wrote:

> Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
> 
> > Hey Guys,
> > 
> > If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
> > installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
> > Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org (http://freebsd.org)
> > 
> 
> 
> When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
> stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
> packages/ports. It becomes necessary to rebuild/update whenever changing 
> from one major release to another, such as from 8.x to 9.x for example.
> 
> If you use csup and a supfile to update src, just use tag=RELENG_8_3 to pull 
> in the security maintenance release bits. Currently it is at P4.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> 
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Stephan Schindel <sts@tp1.rub.de> writes:

>    AL lib: alsa.c:960: no playback cards found...
>    AL lib: alsa.c:1017: no capture cards found...
>    ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
>    ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
>    snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
[...]
>
>    pcm.oss {
>         type oss
>         device /dev/dsp
>    }

Remove ~/.asoundrc, /usr/local/etc/asound.conf defaults to OSS plugin.
And when not using NATIVE_LIBS the following issue may affect you

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/169896

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Am trying to upgrade fbsd-7.4 to 8.3. I get all the way through the 
usual procedure using sources, including installworld, when I attempt 
to run mergemaster as the final step, I get this fatal error.

I've searched the list and google, but don't find the right answer. 
What am I possibly doing wrong and what should I do to get around this?

The error:
mail# mergemaster -viF

*** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot
  *** /var/tmp/temproot ready for use
  *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot

  *** Press the [Enter] or [Return] key to continue

   *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src and install files to
       the temproot environment

-- 
--
All the best,
Jack


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Thanks! Everything works now. I should have read UPDATING before posting.

-Modulok-

On 9/15/12, Mark Felder <feld@feld.me> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:33:09 -0500, <modulok@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> But of course I can't deinstall it because several hundred already
>> installed
>> require it.
>
> The required instructions to fix your problem are in /usr/ports/UPDATING.
> Just serarch for pkgconf.
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>
> Cheers!
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:41:22 -0500
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> stop

You didn't say, "Simon says."

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Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

> Great Mike,
> May I ask what is ABI?
> 
ABI is short for Application Binary Interface, and is a low-level interface 
between programs and the operating system [kernel] they run on.

You may have seen API as well - short for Application Programming Interface. 
This generally/usually is relevant to programs talking to other programs.

In FreeBSD, if changes to the ABI are deemed necessary, this will generally 
serve as a demarcation point between one major version revision and the next 
one coming along, e.g 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, and so on.

-Mike
  


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Hi!
Im using apache 2.2.22_6 with make options in /etc/make.conf

# apache22
.if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
WITH_SUEXEC=            YES
SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log
WITH_APACHE_PERF_TUNING=yes
.endif

But after svn co /usr/ports today i'm see next:

$portupgrade -arR
** Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
         is marked as broken: WITH/WITHOUT parameters are obsolete. The 
port use the new options NG framework. Please read 
http://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/Options/OptionsNG

but a don't understand how i must set SUEXEC_DOCROOT, SUEXEC_USERDIR and 
SUEXEC_LOGFILE in NG framework format...

Please help show me how....

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> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org  Sat Sep 15 11:58:42 2012
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> From: Michael Powell <nightrecon@hotmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:56:49 -0400
> Subject: Re: 8.1 -> 8.3
>
> Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
>
> > Hey Guys,
> > 
> > If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
> > installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
> > Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org
> > 
>
> When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
> stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
> packages/ports. 

Note: this is _generally_ accurate.   There are *rare* exceptions -- things
that have to be compiled against against the actual kernel in use, because
they go rummaging through kernel internal data structures.

Historically, lsof wa one such program.

Such programs tended to have *LOUD* caveats in the build documentation,
and run-time checks for kernel version consistency. 

In 30+ years as a sysadmin, I think I've only encoundered abouut _four_
such programs. 


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