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> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org  Fri Sep 14 10:32:41 2012
> From: Martyn Jansen <martyn.jansen@zynstra.com>
> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:16:32 +0000
> Subject: legal question on licence terms
>
> Sirs,
>
> I'm looking at your licence terms and conditions and particularly the 
> section on "redistribution restriction" on a number of ports.
>
> The restriction is stated as being applicable to "redistribution on mass 
> media". Could you please elaborate on what this means - clearly a number 
> of leading solutions use FreeBSD so I'm trying to properly understand 
> when and how the redistribution restrictions apply.
>
> In our own case we would be using FreeBSD as a component of managed 
> services that we would be providing to our customers. The software would 
> remain on our own server and would not be separately available to our 
> customers. We assume therefore that this in any case does not constitute 
> "redistribution".

For buiness purposes, it is _critical_ that you consult -- on a *paid*,
professional basis --with a competent legal profesional in your 
jurisdiction -- one with expertise and experience in 'IP' (intellectual 
property) matters.  That way, if the advice/opinion you get, and 'rely on',
turns out to be incorrect, you have recourse against their malpractice
insurance.

That said, there is one set of rules that applies to the FreeBSD 'base
system' -- which is owned, maintined, and distributed by the FreeBSD 
Foundation -- which allows essentially unlimited use for any reason as
long as the copyright notices and source attribution are maintained.

The 'ports collection' operates under *different* rules -- with potentially
different rules for _each_and_every_ package in the collection.  These
packages are owned and maintained by various 'third parties', who THEMSELVES
decide on the licensing requirements/restrictions they impose.

You, or your legal counsel/solicitor/barrister, will have to review the
licensing terms of _each_and_every_ such 'third party' package that you
intend to make available to your users -- to see if/how/under what conditions
you can do that.  There are some packages where the rights owner allows
FreeBSD to distribute their package to directly to 'end users', but does
*not* allow someone who gets the package from FreeBSD to redistribute it
to others.

It is *YOUR* responsibility to review the license terms in each piece of
software in the ports collection to determine what is/is not allowed by
the licence terms on that piece of software, if it is for other than 
'personal' use.




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On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Solmin Vladimir <vs@celicom.ru> wrote:

> Hi!
> Im using apache 2.2.22_6 with make options in /etc/make.conf
>
> # apache22
> .if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
> WITH_SUEXEC=            YES
> SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
> SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
> SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log
> WITH_APACHE_PERF_TUNING=yes
> .endif
>
> But after svn co /usr/ports today i'm see next:
>
> $portupgrade -arR
> ** Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
>         is marked as broken: WITH/WITHOUT parameters are obsolete. The
> port use the new options NG framework. Please read
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/**Options/OptionsNG<http://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/Options/OptionsNG>
>
> but a don't understand how i must set SUEXEC_DOCROOT, SUEXEC_USERDIR and
> SUEXEC_LOGFILE in NG framework format...
>
> Please help show me how....
>
>
I have read that instruction and I am also not clear with what the correct
syntax is for /etc/make.conf.

I have come up with this:

# apache22
.if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC
${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_DOCROOT /www
${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_USERDIR  /www/*/cgi-bin

${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_LOGFILE /var/log/suexec.log
.endif

 I cant say if that's how it should be, but I think:-)


Hopefully, Chris can help us understand the syntax better.

-- 
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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Today I'm going to have some time and will do the upgrade. 
Thanks for all of you for the support!

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On 2012. September 15. at 23:32, Robert Bonomi wrote:

> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Sat Sep 15 11:58:42 2012
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org)
> > From: Michael Powell <nightrecon@hotmail.com (mailto:nightrecon@hotmail.com)>
> > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:56:49 -0400
> > Subject: Re: 8.1 -> 8.3
> > 
> > Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey Guys,
> > > 
> > > If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
> > > installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
> > > Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org (http://freebsd.org)
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
> > stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
> > packages/ports. 
> > 
> 
> 
> Note: this is _generally_ accurate. There are *rare* exceptions -- things
> that have to be compiled against against the actual kernel in use, because
> they go rummaging through kernel internal data structures.
> 
> Historically, lsof wa one such program.
> 
> Such programs tended to have *LOUD* caveats in the build documentation,
> and run-time checks for kernel version consistency. 
> 
> In 30+ years as a sysadmin, I think I've only encoundered abouut _four_
> such programs. 
> 
> 
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Yes thank you :) I just had to remove .asoundrc and now it's working :)

Am 14.09.2012 17:39, schrieb Stephan Schindel:
> Hey guys!
> I would like to play Minecraft on my FreeBSD box, so I installed 
> games/minecraft-client. It starts, but I do not have any sound. The 
> reason for that is that Minecraft uses ALSA and ALSA does not find any 
> soundcards:
>
>    Starting up SoundSystem...
>    Initializing LWJGL OpenAL
>         (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL.  For more information, see
>    http://www.lwjgl.org)
>    AL lib: alsa.c:960: no playback cards found...
>    AL lib: alsa.c:1017: no capture cards found...
>    ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
>    ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
>    snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
>
> I am not sure what to do here and how to wrap my OSS system in an ALSA 
> system. I installed audio/alsa-lib, audio/alsa-plugins and 
> audio/alsa-utils. My asoundrc looks like this at the moment:
>
>    pcm.oss {
>         type oss
>         device /dev/dsp
>    }
>
>
> However I cannot play any MP3s via aplay. Do you have any ideas?
>
> Stephan
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On 16 September 2012 07:19, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Solmin Vladimir <vs@celicom.ru> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>> Im using apache 2.2.22_6 with make options in /etc/make.conf
>>
>> # apache22
>> .if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
>> WITH_SUEXEC=            YES
>> SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
>> SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
>> SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log
>> WITH_APACHE_PERF_TUNING=yes
>> .endif
>>
>> But after svn co /usr/ports today i'm see next:
>>
>> $portupgrade -arR
>> ** Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
>>         is marked as broken: WITH/WITHOUT parameters are obsolete. The
>> port use the new options NG framework. Please read
>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/Options/OptionsNG
>>
>> but a don't understand how i must set SUEXEC_DOCROOT, SUEXEC_USERDIR and
>> SUEXEC_LOGFILE in NG framework format...
>>
>> Please help show me how....
>>
>
> I have read that instruction and I am also not clear with what the correct
> syntax is for /etc/make.conf.
>
> I have come up with this:
>
>
> # apache22
> .if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
> ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC
> ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_DOCROOT /www
> ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_USERDIR  /www/*/cgi-bin
>
>
> ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_LOGFILE /var/log/suexec.log
> .endif
>
>  I cant say if that's how it should be, but I think:-)
>
>
> Hopefully, Chris can help us understand the syntax better.

Thanks for copying me in, I'm not on this list.

You're very close!

You need to use ${UNIQUENAME}_SET, and to find the UNIQUENAME you need to;

[crees@pegasus]~% cd /usr/ports/www/apache22
[crees@pegasus]/usr/ports/www/apache22% make -VUNIQUENAME
apache22

Now we know it's apache22, we can use:

# (No need to bother with .if ${.CURDIR} any more)

apache22_SET+= SUEXEC
SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log

I'm not sure what APACHE_PERF_TUNING is; you may find it's been
deprecated.  Check with apache@ about that.  If I've somehow missed
that, you can just add it to the apache22_SET list:

apache22_SET+= SUEXEC APACHE_PERF_TUNING

Hope that helps!

Chris

(corresponding to WITHOUT is ${UNIQUENAME}_UNSET)

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Hi Chris,

Thanks for this.

Hopefully, you can modify the Wiki to have this information and even
examples:)

Personally, I use `make config` and have never needed to do much with
/etc/make.conf as regards the ports.




On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 16 September 2012 07:19, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Solmin Vladimir <vs@celicom.ru> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >> Im using apache 2.2.22_6 with make options in /etc/make.conf
> >>
> >> # apache22
> >> .if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
> >> WITH_SUEXEC=            YES
> >> SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
> >> SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
> >> SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log
> >> WITH_APACHE_PERF_TUNING=yes
> >> .endif
> >>
> >> But after svn co /usr/ports today i'm see next:
> >>
> >> $portupgrade -arR
> >> ** Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
> >>         is marked as broken: WITH/WITHOUT parameters are obsolete. The
> >> port use the new options NG framework. Please read
> >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/Options/OptionsNG
> >>
> >> but a don't understand how i must set SUEXEC_DOCROOT, SUEXEC_USERDIR and
> >> SUEXEC_LOGFILE in NG framework format...
> >>
> >> Please help show me how....
> >>
> >
> > I have read that instruction and I am also not clear with what the
> correct
> > syntax is for /etc/make.conf.
> >
> > I have come up with this:
> >
> >
> > # apache22
> > .if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC
> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_DOCROOT /www
> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_USERDIR  /www/*/cgi-bin
> >
> >
> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_LOGFILE /var/log/suexec.log
> > .endif
> >
> >  I cant say if that's how it should be, but I think:-)
> >
> >
> > Hopefully, Chris can help us understand the syntax better.
>
> Thanks for copying me in, I'm not on this list.
>
> You're very close!
>
> You need to use ${UNIQUENAME}_SET, and to find the UNIQUENAME you need to;
>
> [crees@pegasus]~% cd /usr/ports/www/apache22
> [crees@pegasus]/usr/ports/www/apache22% make -VUNIQUENAME
> apache22
>
> Now we know it's apache22, we can use:
>
> # (No need to bother with .if ${.CURDIR} any more)
>
> apache22_SET+= SUEXEC
> SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
> SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
> SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log
>
> I'm not sure what APACHE_PERF_TUNING is; you may find it's been
> deprecated.  Check with apache@ about that.  If I've somehow missed
> that, you can just add it to the apache22_SET list:
>
> apache22_SET+= SUEXEC APACHE_PERF_TUNING
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Chris
>
> (corresponding to WITHOUT is ${UNIQUENAME}_UNSET)
>



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On 16 September 2012 09:32, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> Hopefully, you can modify the Wiki to have this information and even
> examples:)

There are examples on the Wiki page already, but in a confusing order.
 I've put in a link, and a tip on how to find UNIQUENAME.

> Personally, I use `make config` and have never needed to do much with
> /etc/make.conf as regards the ports.

True, but some people like to share their make.conf around machines :)

Chris

>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 16 September 2012 07:19, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Solmin Vladimir <vs@celicom.ru> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi!
>> >> Im using apache 2.2.22_6 with make options in /etc/make.conf
>> >>
>> >> # apache22
>> >> .if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
>> >> WITH_SUEXEC=            YES
>> >> SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
>> >> SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
>> >> SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log
>> >> WITH_APACHE_PERF_TUNING=yes
>> >> .endif
>> >>
>> >> But after svn co /usr/ports today i'm see next:
>> >>
>> >> $portupgrade -arR
>> >> ** Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
>> >>         is marked as broken: WITH/WITHOUT parameters are obsolete. The
>> >> port use the new options NG framework. Please read
>> >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/Options/OptionsNG
>> >>
>> >> but a don't understand how i must set SUEXEC_DOCROOT, SUEXEC_USERDIR
>> >> and
>> >> SUEXEC_LOGFILE in NG framework format...
>> >>
>> >> Please help show me how....
>> >>
>> >
>> > I have read that instruction and I am also not clear with what the
>> > correct
>> > syntax is for /etc/make.conf.
>> >
>> > I have come up with this:
>> >
>> >
>> > # apache22
>> > .if ${.CURDIR} == ${PORTSDIR}/www/apache22
>> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC
>> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_DOCROOT /www
>> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_USERDIR  /www/*/cgi-bin
>> >
>> >
>> > ${APACHE22}_SET=SUEXEC_LOGFILE /var/log/suexec.log
>> > .endif
>> >
>> >  I cant say if that's how it should be, but I think:-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Hopefully, Chris can help us understand the syntax better.
>>
>> Thanks for copying me in, I'm not on this list.
>>
>> You're very close!
>>
>> You need to use ${UNIQUENAME}_SET, and to find the UNIQUENAME you need to;
>>
>> [crees@pegasus]~% cd /usr/ports/www/apache22
>> [crees@pegasus]/usr/ports/www/apache22% make -VUNIQUENAME
>> apache22
>>
>> Now we know it's apache22, we can use:
>>
>> # (No need to bother with .if ${.CURDIR} any more)
>>
>> apache22_SET+= SUEXEC
>> SUEXEC_DOCROOT=         /www
>> SUEXEC_USERDIR=         /www/*/cgi-bin
>> SUEXEC_LOGFILE=         /var/log/suexec.log
>>
>> I'm not sure what APACHE_PERF_TUNING is; you may find it's been
>> deprecated.  Check with apache@ about that.  If I've somehow missed
>> that, you can just add it to the apache22_SET list:
>>
>> apache22_SET+= SUEXEC APACHE_PERF_TUNING
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> (corresponding to WITHOUT is ${UNIQUENAME}_UNSET)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
> Nairobi,KE
> +254733744121/+254722743223
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 16 September 2012 09:32, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Thanks for this.
> >
> > Hopefully, you can modify the Wiki to have this information and even
> > examples:)
>
> There are examples on the Wiki page already, but in a confusing order.
>  I've put in a link, and a tip on how to find UNIQUENAME.
>
> > Personally, I use `make config` and have never needed to do much with
> > /etc/make.conf as regards the ports.
>
> True, but some people like to share their make.conf around machines :)
>
> Chris
>

My machines are all identical too, except for parameters related to
$hostname, DNS and passwords.
I mostly used /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf before, then `make config` and
now I believe I am gonna switch to /etc/make.conf but only where I must
finely customize.
One thing has crossed my mind now: What happens with make -DWITH_* in this
new development of optionsNG?? I have manually built ports that way before.
And what about those who want to use portinstall -m WITH_OPTx=1
WITH_OPTy=1, etc?



-- 
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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On 16 September 2012 10:20, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 16 September 2012 09:32, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Chris,
>> >
>> > Thanks for this.
>> >
>> > Hopefully, you can modify the Wiki to have this information and even
>> > examples:)
>>
>> There are examples on the Wiki page already, but in a confusing order.
>>  I've put in a link, and a tip on how to find UNIQUENAME.
>>
>> > Personally, I use `make config` and have never needed to do much with
>> > /etc/make.conf as regards the ports.
>>
>> True, but some people like to share their make.conf around machines :)
>>
>> Chris
>
>
> My machines are all identical too, except for parameters related to
> $hostname, DNS and passwords.
> I mostly used /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf before, then `make config` and
> now I believe I am gonna switch to /etc/make.conf but only where I must
> finely customize.
> One thing has crossed my mind now: What happens with make -DWITH_* in this
> new development of optionsNG?? I have manually built ports that way before.
> And what about those who want to use portinstall -m WITH_OPTx=1 WITH_OPTy=1,
> etc?

Still works fine for nearly all ports, but just for apache ports there
appears to be subtle problems with the logic since it's so
complicated.  That's why Olli chose to disable the WITH_ option style
for Apache, and I think it was the right decision.

I would suggest you learn the new (just as simple) syntax and see how
you get on with it :)

Chris

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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 16 September 2012 10:20, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16 September 2012 09:32, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Chris,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for this.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully, you can modify the Wiki to have this information and even
> >> > examples:)
> >>
> >> There are examples on the Wiki page already, but in a confusing order.
> >>  I've put in a link, and a tip on how to find UNIQUENAME.
> >>
> >> > Personally, I use `make config` and have never needed to do much with
> >> > /etc/make.conf as regards the ports.
> >>
> >> True, but some people like to share their make.conf around machines :)
> >>
> >> Chris
> >
> >
> > My machines are all identical too, except for parameters related to
> > $hostname, DNS and passwords.
> > I mostly used /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf before, then `make config` and
> > now I believe I am gonna switch to /etc/make.conf but only where I must
> > finely customize.
> > One thing has crossed my mind now: What happens with make -DWITH_* in
> this
> > new development of optionsNG?? I have manually built ports that way
> before.
> > And what about those who want to use portinstall -m WITH_OPTx=1
> WITH_OPTy=1,
> > etc?
>
> Still works fine for nearly all ports, but just for apache ports there
> appears to be subtle problems with the logic since it's so
> complicated.  That's why Olli chose to disable the WITH_ option style
> for Apache, and I think it was the right decision.
>
> I would suggest you learn the new (just as simple) syntax and see how
> you get on with it :)
>
> Chris
>

I was thinking this optionsNG has already been adopted for all ports.

Thanks for the examples though. They are good enough for me to learn the
ropes..


-- 
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Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
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On 16 September 2012 10:37, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 16 September 2012 10:20, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 16 September 2012 09:32, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Chris,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hopefully, you can modify the Wiki to have this information and even
>> >> > examples:)
>> >>
>> >> There are examples on the Wiki page already, but in a confusing order.
>> >>  I've put in a link, and a tip on how to find UNIQUENAME.
>> >>
>> >> > Personally, I use `make config` and have never needed to do much with
>> >> > /etc/make.conf as regards the ports.
>> >>
>> >> True, but some people like to share their make.conf around machines :)
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > My machines are all identical too, except for parameters related to
>> > $hostname, DNS and passwords.
>> > I mostly used /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf before, then `make config`
>> > and
>> > now I believe I am gonna switch to /etc/make.conf but only where I must
>> > finely customize.
>> > One thing has crossed my mind now: What happens with make -DWITH_* in
>> > this
>> > new development of optionsNG?? I have manually built ports that way
>> > before.
>> > And what about those who want to use portinstall -m WITH_OPTx=1
>> > WITH_OPTy=1,
>> > etc?
>>
>> Still works fine for nearly all ports, but just for apache ports there
>> appears to be subtle problems with the logic since it's so
>> complicated.  That's why Olli chose to disable the WITH_ option style
>> for Apache, and I think it was the right decision.
>>
>> I would suggest you learn the new (just as simple) syntax and see how
>> you get on with it :)
>>
>> Chris
>
>
> I was thinking this optionsNG has already been adopted for all ports.
>
> Thanks for the examples though. They are good enough for me to learn the
> ropes..
>

Both syntaxes will work with old and new-style port OPTIONS.

Chris

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On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:17:55 +0100
Chris Rees articulated:

> You need to use ${UNIQUENAME}_SET, and to find the UNIQUENAME you
> need to;
> 
> [crees@pegasus]~% cd /usr/ports/www/apache22
> [crees@pegasus]/usr/ports/www/apache22% make -VUNIQUENAME
> apache22
> 
> Now we know it's apache22, we can use:

I tried this with "postfix" and the "postfix-current" port and both
returned the same unique name. Is that to be expected? I would have
though that two different ports would return different unique names.

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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:32:42 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote:
> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org  Sat Sep 15 11:58:42 2012
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > From: Michael Powell <nightrecon@hotmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:56:49 -0400
> > Subject: Re: 8.1 -> 8.3
> >
> > Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Guys,
> > > 
> > > If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update
> > > installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance?
> > > Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org
> > > 
> >
> > When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is 
> > stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party 
> > packages/ports. 
> 
> Note: this is _generally_ accurate.   There are *rare* exceptions -- things
> that have to be compiled against against the actual kernel in use, because
> they go rummaging through kernel internal data structures.
> 
> Historically, lsof wa one such program.
> 
> Such programs tended to have *LOUD* caveats in the build documentation,
> and run-time checks for kernel version consistency. 
> 
> In 30+ years as a sysadmin, I think I've only encoundered abouut _four_
> such programs. 

There may be one addition: Sometimes, programs originating
from ports become part of the OS (the base system). If I
remember correctly, that happened in the 7.x branch with
xz (becoming /usr/bin/xz). In such cases, it's good to
revier the related ports.


-- 
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*hello guys,

i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and
gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx
command, it has the following error:

failed to load module "fbdev"

when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error
occurred:
"loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object"

i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change
the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again.

anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box?
*

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Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh:
> *hello guys,
>
> i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and
> gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run startx
> command, it has the following error:
>
> failed to load module "fbdev"
>
> when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error
> occurred:
> "loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object"
>
> i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i change
> the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again.
>
> anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box?
> *
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What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed.

Stephan

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In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 432, Issue 6, Message: 15
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:26:57 +0200 Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
 > On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:05:03 +0200, suseuser04@lajt.hu wrote:
 > > Matthias, Polytropon:
[..]
 > > Thank you for your answers.
 > > I am using KDE 3.5.10. I would like to use FreeBSD as a desktop machine
 > > for replacing openSUSE if it is possible at all.
 > 
 > I don't see a reason why this shouldn't be possible. Many years
 > ago, FreeBSD 4 obsoleted Linux as my home desktop, and I do not
 > regret the choice. Depending on what _you_ actually *do* with
 > your computer, there _may_ be certain "obstacles".
 > 
 > > For clarity, I do not need exactly kinternet, I want only an GUI frontend
 > > for pppdial which possibly resides in system tray and can be used to control
 > > network connections.

 > As I said, I've heared of a tool named kppp, and according to
 > the traditional naming convention in KDE (of _that_ time), I
 > assume this is a KDE program for dealing with ppp. Even though
 > networking is done at OS level which doesn't have such a tight
 > integration with desktop environments as this is done in
 > Linux (as the "big three" desktop environments are quite
 > Linux-centric), ppp can be invoked by the user (if he has
 > been granted the required permissions by the system administrator).
 > If a KDE program can "communicate" with the ppp command line
 > tool, it should work.

Well the trouble is that KPPP only ever supported pppd, and FreeBSD had 
finally dropped pppd by 8.0.  Many users requested user ppp(8) support 
in KDE and specifically KPPP, since nearly everyone was using ppp(8) 
even while pppd was supported.  KDE folks showed no interest, and noone 
on "our side" worked on adding ppp(8) support - as I recall, anyway :)

No wonder Linux folks hide pppd operation in wrappers and tray gadgets; 
manually configuring pppd on Mandrake or Debian with half a zillion conf 
files is a job best left to robots, indeed.  It wasn't nearly so bad on 
FreeBSD, as detailed in: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ppp.html 
(for FreeBSD 7.X only) but pppd still lacked functionality that had been 
straightforward in ppp(8) since at least '98 when I set it up for ISP 
dialout and 3 dialup 33.6kbps modems .. no X on that box of course.

 > > In openSUSE kinternet is a frontend for smpppd package.
 > > smpppd requires ppp. I will try to look into it whether  smpppd  can
 > > work with FreeBSD's ppp.
 > 
 > That sounds like an interesting approach. Good luck!

On this 8.2-R system I checked /usr/ports; no mention of smpppd. 
grepping /usr/ports/net/* for pppd|PPPD found a few things, including a 
port of pppd itself, presumably one could install that.

t23% find /usr/ports -iname \*smpppd\*
t23% find /usr/ports/net -exec grep -Hi smpppd {} \;
t23% find /usr/ports/net -exec grep -Hi pppd {} \;
[.. snippets ..]
/usr/ports/net/Makefile:    SUBDIR += pppd23
[..]
/usr/ports/net/l2tpd/files/patch-Makefile: # pools to pass to pppd ...
/usr/ports/net/poptop/files/patch-pptpctrl.c:                   
  syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "CTRL: pppd speed = %s", speed);
/usr/ports/net/poptop/files/patch-pptpctrl.c:+                  
  syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "CTRL: BSD userland ppp system label = %s",
[..]
usr/ports/net/pppd23/Makefile:# New ports collection makefile for: pppd 2.3.11
[..]
/usr/ports/net/pptpclient/files/patch-aa:-PPPD = /usr/sbin/pppd
/usr/ports/net/pptpclient/files/patch-aa:+PPPD = /usr/sbin/ppp
/usr/ports/net/rp-pppoe/Makefile:# New ports collection makefile for: popular pppd pppoe client
[..]
/usr/ports/net/xisp/pkg-descr:The xisp package implements a 
  user-friendly X interface to pppd/chat

The latter might be of use with the ports pppd 2.3 (or later by now)

"The xisp package implements a user-friendly X interface to pppd/chat
and provides maximum feedback from the dial-in and login phases on a
browser screen, as well as a manual login terminal window. It also
provides greater versatility in interrupting a call in progress and in
general enhances the user's feeling of "what's going on", especially
if he/she is not all that well acquainted with the intricacies of
system log files. Xisp also has means to track your phonecosts.

WWW: http://xisp.hellug.gr/"

So if suseuser wants to stick with the familiar rather than learning to 
use FreeBSD's ppp(8), perhaps some of that may help.

 > I know that's basically possible. Many years ago, I wrote
 > a Tcl/Tk-based frontend with buttons to enable / disable
 > the connection, see the status and the elapsed time. If
 > that has been possible, chances are good that KDE in its
 > much advanced manner has something comparable.

Maybe there's something new in KDE4.  I'm sticking with 3.5 on my T23; 
I only have 768MB RAM :) and it does everything I need on the desktop.

It's not that hard to setup KDE desktop bottons to run whatever scripts 
you might need to start/stop/whatever with user ppp(8), but I've never 
bothered since mpd does a fine job of fulltime PPPoE, and gkrellm keeps 
and displays good enough traffic stats by day/week/month.

cheers, Ian

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> Can someone explainn to me what "negative group permissions" are?
>

In what context, sir?


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On 16/09/2012 19:57, Gary Aitken wrote:
> Can someone explainn to me what "negative group permissions" are?

It's where the group ownership of a file gives it fewer permissions than
are allowed for the world in general.

Suppose you have a file with these permissions and ownership:

foo bar -rwx---r-x

The owner -- foo -- has full read, write and execute permissions on the
file.  Anyone has read and execute permissions.  But the group -- bar --
has no permissions.

Now, logically, you might think that the world permissions would
override the lack of group permissions, but in fact, that's not what
happens.  Permissions like that mean 'everyone *except* members of group
bar can read and execute this.

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El dнa Sunday, September 16, 2012 a las 08:37:48PM +0100, Matthew Seaman escribiу:

> It's where the group ownership of a file gives it fewer permissions than
> are allowed for the world in general.
> 
> Suppose you have a file with these permissions and ownership:
> 
> foo bar -rwx---r-x
> 
> ...

So far so good (and correct) the theory. But, could you imagine a real
world example where this makes any sense?

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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:

> El d=EDa Sunday, September 16, 2012 a las 08:37:48PM +0100, Matthew Seama=
n
> escribi=F3:
>
> > It's where the group ownership of a file gives it fewer permissions tha=
n
> > are allowed for the world in general.
> >
> > Suppose you have a file with these permissions and ownership:
> >
> > foo bar -rwx---r-x
> >
> > ...
>
> So far so good (and correct) the theory. But, could you imagine a real
> world example where this makes any sense?
>

Group permissions are rather blunt, and if you want fine-grained access
controls, you'll need to enable ACLs.  However...

Imagine, if you will, a group entitled "guest," with the semantics you
might normally associate with that name - then using negative group
permissions on a directory effectively prevents traversal beyond that point
for members of that group.

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> Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
> > El dia Sunday, September 16, 2012 a las 08:37:48PM +0100, Matthew Seaman
> > escribio:
> >
> > > It's where the group ownership of a file gives it fewer permissions than
> > > are allowed for the world in general.
> > >
> > > Suppose you have a file with these permissions and ownership:
> > >
> > > foo bar -rwx---r-x
> > >
> > > ...
> >
> > So far so good (and correct) the theory. But, could you imagine a real
> > world example where this makes any sense?
>
> Group permissions are rather blunt, and if you want fine-grained access
> controls, you'll need to enable ACLs.  However...
>
> Imagine, if you will, a group entitled "guest," with the semantics you
> might normally associate with that name - then using negative group
> permissions on a directory effectively prevents traversal beyond that point
> for members of that group.

It's also 'convenient' for an anonymous ftp 'upload' directory -- set the 
upload directory  permissions to '-w--w-rw-' and any 'username' in the 
'anonymous' group can only upload files to that directory -- can't get
a directory listing, read any files, or change directory.  BUT, any
'non-anonymous' user _can_ do those things.

There are many kinds of "special case" scenarios where it is desirable
to make something 'generally available' to ths users, but -deny- access
to a specific group of users.  "Negative permissions" is a simple, and
simplistic, approach to the issue -- but it is a 'traditional' one, from
the days before extended access-control lists.



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Subject: [SOLVED] Upgrade to 8.3 broke pam_ldap
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Hi,

I did it...

> After upgrading from 7.3 o 8.3 pam_ldap stopped working.
> 
> LDAP server has been running on a different machine for ages, it is
> still running.
> 
> Connection to the server is still there: when I enter a wrong password
> I get a distinct error message.
> 
> When I enter the correct password, I get: 
> 
>   Sep 11 18:05:00 ufo2 login: pam_acct_mgmt(): error in service module
> 
> I recompiled openldap_client, pam_ldap and nss_ldap, but not to avail.

Stupid mistake, when I upgraded I erased the modified contents of /etc/nss_switch.conf

Olivier

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my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel?
could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from
fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i
think i should do something else to change my driver.
please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it.
thanks


On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel <sts@tp1.rub.de> wrote:
> Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh:
>> *hello guys,
>>
>> i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and
>> gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run
>> startx
>> command, it has the following error:
>>
>> failed to load module "fbdev"
>>
>> when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error
>> occurred:
>> "loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
>> object"
>>
>> i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i
>> change
>> the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again.
>>
>> anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box?
>> *
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> What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed.
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What is the method in a repository of pkg there to split packages for 
difference minor  version? At present PACKAGESSITE set to 
http://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest, where $ABI forming URL on 9.0 or 
9.1/amd64 into http://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/

How it is possible to specify necessary minor version or determine for which 
version the package. For an example, some software builds on 9.1 isn't 
compatible with 9.0 libraries ("_ThreadRuneLocale" Undefined symbol)

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Hi 

When I installed FreeBSD on my Lenovo Think Center Desktop I created a full ZFS Root file system using Matthew Seaman's excellent article:

	http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/articles/install-on-zfs/

My system now is: /home/jamie $ uname -a
FreeBSD kontrol.kode5.net 9.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE #4 r240560: Sun Sep 16 18:40:56 BST 2012     root@kontrol.kode5.net:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/KONTROL  amd64

I've been wondering about ZFS tuning and have read some articles, including the FreeBSD handbook and wiki articles and also some posts in the FreeBSD forum.

The FreeBSD handbook [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/filesystems-zfs.html], section 21.2.1.3 Loader Tunables
suggests adding tunables to /boot/loader.conf for ALL architectures - which I tested:

	vm.kmem_size="330M"
	vm.kmem_size_max="330M"
	vfs.zfs.arc_max="40M"
	vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size="5M"

However, when I rebooted, although it did boot up ok dmesg showed a complaint from ZFS about vm.kmem_size_max being less than 512mb. So I removed it. The only line relating to ZFS tunables in my /boot/loader.conf file is now: vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0

To stop this email becoming too long winded, what I'm interested in is are there entries I need/should/recommend to add to /boot/loader.conf to tune ZFS properly and/or Kernel config options I need/should/recommended to add to my custom Kernel.

I have 2GB RAM, and I've set up 2GB GEOM Mirrored Swap. I'm only using one HDD on the machine so it's a fairly basic setup on this machine. Maybe I don't need to do/add anything at all?

Would anyone be kind enough to provide some guidance about this?

Best Wishes, Jamie.

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[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Mon 17.Sep'12 at 10:09:31 +0430 ]

> my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel?
> could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from
> fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i
> think i should do something else to change my driver.
> please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it.
> thanks

My video card is also intel. At first I just used the default installation config. Then, I used Xorg -configure which created a xorg.conf.new file in /root.

I edited this and made very modifications. The relevant sections is:

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"                   # [<bool>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ColorKey"                  # <i>
        #Option     "CacheLines"                # <i>
        #Option     "Dac6Bit"                   # [<bool>]
        Option     "DRI"                        "True" # [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoDDC"                     # [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShowCache"                 # [<bool>]
        #Option     "XvMCSurfaces"              # <i>
        #Option     "PageFlip"                  # [<bool>]
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "intel"
        VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
        BoardName   "4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller"
        BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection 


Also, near to the top of the file, there is module section. I have this:

Section "Module"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "dri2"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "dri"
        Load  "extmod"
EndSection

Naturally, you can add and remove the things you don't want or need in this file. To use the new file for X, rename it (mv(1)) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .

I think that should, I hope, do it for you. 

Good luck and I hope that helps you a bit.

Best wishes, Jamie

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17.09.2012 13:36, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
> When I installed FreeBSD on my Lenovo Think Center Desktop I created a full ZFS Root file system using Matthew Seaman's excellent article:
>
> 	http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/articles/install-on-zfs/
>
> My system now is: /home/jamie $ uname -a
> FreeBSD kontrol.kode5.net 9.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE #4 r240560: Sun Sep 16 18:40:56 BST 2012     root@kontrol.kode5.net:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/KONTROL  amd64
>
> I've been wondering about ZFS tuning and have read some articles, including the FreeBSD handbook and wiki articles and also some posts in the FreeBSD forum.
>
> The FreeBSD handbook [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/filesystems-zfs.html], section 21.2.1.3 Loader Tunables
> suggests adding tunables to /boot/loader.conf for ALL architectures - which I tested:

Handbook is old and cripsy about that all thing yet provides a useful 
link to http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide

  - you don't need kmem_size/arc tuning on amd64 generally;
  - zfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0 will cause system eat more RAM then 
without it;
  - there are a lot of tunables but you should learn what you are doing 
before setting anything, for example changing recordsize for already 
running MySQL database filesystem will do nothing at all.

-- 
Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow.

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[ Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote on Mon 17.Sep'12 at 14:25:09 +0300 ]

 
> Handbook is old and cripsy about that all thing yet provides a useful 
> link to http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide
> 
>   - you don't need kmem_size/arc tuning on amd64 generally;
>   - zfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0 will cause system eat more RAM then 
> without it;
>   - there are a lot of tunables but you should learn what you are doing 
> before setting anything, for example changing recordsize for already 
> running MySQL database filesystem will do nothing at all.
 
Yes, I've seen lot's of information about ZFS tunables on FreeBSD which will give me plenty of reading.

I set zfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0 because some dmesg line suggested/implied it would benefit. I don't recall the exact output now. So, I think it's probably best I just leave things as they are as my system is functioning well enough, as far as I can tell anyway. This is the first time I've used ZFS on FreeBSD so I am still very much in the 'learning process' where that is concerned. 

Thanks for your response Volodymyr. Very much appreciated.

Best wishes, Jamie. 

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2012/9/1 David Naylor <naylor.b.david@gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.12 have been uploaded to mediafire [2].
>  The
> packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng [3] format.
>
> There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world
> (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few
> users).
>
> The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on
> installation (if the relevant files are accessible).  Please read the
> installation messages for further information.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> [1]
>  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.tbz) =
>         335ef444a2f6f375dd22cf932b651919
>  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz) =
>         e06673c4ab9a0bb82a7d48dad5b8877f
>  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz) =
>         aafe06b15176f810c25cbf708c11aabb
> [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64
> [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
> [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh
>
Hi David,

I have pkg_add wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz and run /usr/local/share/wine/patch-
nvidia.sh; everything is OK.

When running wine, the error msg is:
wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib32/wine/ntdll.dll.so: Undefined
symbol "_ThreadRuneLocale"

What shall I do? Thanks!
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On Sunday, 2 September 2012 07:37:34 alphachi wrote:
> 2012/9/1 David Naylor <naylor.b.david@gmail.com>
>=20
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.12 have been uploaded to mediafire [2].
> >=20
> >  The
> >=20
> > packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng [3] format.
> >=20
> > There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled
> > world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a
> > few users).
> >=20
> > The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run
> > on installation (if the relevant files are accessible).  Please read the
> > installation messages for further information.
> >=20
> > Regards,
> >=20
> > David
> >=20
> > [1]
> >=20
> >  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.tbz) =3D
> > =20
> >         335ef444a2f6f375dd22cf932b651919
> > =20
> >  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz) =3D
> > =20
> >         e06673c4ab9a0bb82a7d48dad5b8877f
> > =20
> >  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz) =3D
> > =20
> >         aafe06b15176f810c25cbf708c11aabb
> >=20
> > [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64
> > [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
> > [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh
>=20
> Hi David,

Hi

> I have pkg_add wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz and run
> /usr/local/share/wine/patch- nvidia.sh; everything is OK.
>=20
> When running wine, the error msg is:
> wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib32/wine/ntdll.dll.so: Undefined
> symbol "_ThreadRuneLocale"
>=20
> What shall I do? Thanks!

Could you please answer some questions:
 - Are you running FreeBSD 9 or 10?
 - When last did you update world?
 - Are you using clang for any compilation (of world, ports, etc)
 - How did you run wine?

Could please run the followings commands, and provide the output:
# uname -a
# winecfg
# regedit
also please run the program that tripped wine up. =20

Some things you could try [the following long shots] (although I have no id=
ea=20
what the root cause is til I get further information):
 - Have a look at http://markmail.org/thread/5kt24py6q2w2ageq
 - Update to the latest -stable or -current code
 - If you were using clang then switch to gcc and do a full rebuild

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OK, I have solved the problem.

1.5.10 is fine for 9.0 RELEASE. 1.5.11&1.5.12 have the same error on it.
After 9.0 RELEASE (9.0 STABLE, etc.), all version is fine.

Thanks!
=E5=9C=A8 2012-9-1 =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=8811:10=EF=BC=8C"David Naylor" <naylor.b=
..david@gmail.com>=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

> Hi,
>
> Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.12 have been uploaded to mediafire [2].
>  The
> packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng [3] format.
>
> There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled worl=
d
> (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few
> users).
>
> The patch [4] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run =
on
> installation (if the relevant files are accessible).  Please read the
> installation messages for further information.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> [1]
>  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.tbz) =3D
>         335ef444a2f6f375dd22cf932b651919
>  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz) =3D
>         e06673c4ab9a0bb82a7d48dad5b8877f
>  MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.12,1.txz) =3D
>         aafe06b15176f810c25cbf708c11aabb
> [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64
> [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
> [4] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh
>
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Now that we're switching to svn, is there a utility analogous to csup for 
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Hi,
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Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Now that we're switching to svn, is there a utility analogous to csup for 
> fetching source?  Is that utility available for 8.3?  

> (I'm assuming 
> subversion will become part of base in 9.x.)

No. Reporting what I read today in arch@freebsd.org :
Subject: Re: Fallout from the CVS discussion ...
Summary: some say subversion is changing too fast, they'll leave in ports.

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On Monday 17 September 2012 13:20:14 Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:

> I set zfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0 because some dmesg line suggested/implied
> it would benefit. I don't recall the exact output now. 

If you look in /var/run/dmesg.boot you should find the message saying "ZFS 
NOTICE: Prefetch is disabled by default if less than 4GB of RAM is present; 
to enable, add "vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0" to /boot/loader.conf."

Since you have 2GB RAM then it's best to leave things as they are with 
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[ Mike Clarke wrote on Mon 17.Sep'12 at 18:19:18 +0100 ]

> On Monday 17 September 2012 13:20:14 Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
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> > I set zfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0 because some dmesg line suggested/implied
> > it would benefit. I don't recall the exact output now. 
> 
> If you look in /var/run/dmesg.boot you should find the message saying "ZFS 
> NOTICE: Prefetch is disabled by default if less than 4GB of RAM is present; 
> to enable, add "vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0" to /boot/loader.conf."
> 
> Since you have 2GB RAM then it's best to leave things as they are with 
> prefetch disabled.

Hi Mike, yes that was the notice I saw which made me add this setting. 

Thanks for the reminder and info.

Best wishes, Jamie.

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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:45:23 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:

> Now that we're switching to svn, is there a utility analogous to csup
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> subversion will become part of base in 9.x.)

9.1-RC1 here. Subversion is still in ports at the moment.


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I'm setting up a new server and plan on migrating a Wordpress blog to it. 
Right now the server does not resolve with DNS, because the server I'm 
migrating from is still up and running.  (I'm in the setup and configure 
stage.)

I've got Wordpress installed and working with apache22, mysql 5.4, php 5.5 
and suphp.  I've migrated some of the blog over and installed some plugins 
I need.

One of the plugins is the Wordpress jetpack.  I can't figure out how to get 
this plugin to active.

This is the error message I'm getting:

Your website needs to be publicly accessible to use Jetpack: 
site_inaccessible

Error Details: The Jetpack server was unable to communicate with your site 
[IXR -32300: transport error: http_request_failed SSL certificate problem, 
verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: error:14090086:SSL 
routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed]

I assume this is a problem with the site's self-signed cert not verifying 
through curl.  I cat'd the cert into the ca-certfile, but it still doesn't 
work, so maybe I'm wrong.

Here's the path for the ca file:
# curl-config --ca
/usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt

I cat'd both the site's cert and the Jetpack site's cert into the 
ca-root-nss.crt file.  I think Jetpack is using php-curl.  I have the 
php-curl extension installed.

Is there a way to get this self-signed cert working?  Or am I going to have 
to buy a cert?

Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
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--On September 17, 2012 11:23:09 PM +0000 Walter Hurry 
<walterhurry@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:45:23 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
>> Now that we're switching to svn, is there a utility analogous to csup
>> for fetching source?  Is that utility available for 8.3?  (I'm assuming
>> subversion will become part of base in 9.x.)
>
> 9.1-RC1 here. Subversion is still in ports at the moment.
>

Does csup use subversion now?  Or do we need to use something else to fetch 
source?

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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> I'm setting up a new server and plan on migrating a Wordpress blog to it.
> Right now the server does not resolve with DNS, because the server I'm
> migrating from is still up and running.  (I'm in the setup and configure
> stage.)
>
> I've got Wordpress installed and working with apache22, mysql 5.4, php 5.5
> and suphp.  I've migrated some of the blog over and installed some plugins I
> need.
>
> One of the plugins is the Wordpress jetpack.  I can't figure out how to get
> this plugin to active.
>
> This is the error message I'm getting:
>
> Your website needs to be publicly accessible to use Jetpack:
> site_inaccessible
>
> Error Details: The Jetpack server was unable to communicate with your site
> [IXR -32300: transport error: http_request_failed SSL certificate problem,
> verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: error:14090086:SSL
> routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed]
>
> I assume this is a problem with the site's self-signed cert not verifying
> through curl.  I cat'd the cert into the ca-certfile, but it still doesn't
> work, so maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Here's the path for the ca file:
> # curl-config --ca
> /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt
>
> I cat'd both the site's cert and the Jetpack site's cert into the
> ca-root-nss.crt file.  I think Jetpack is using php-curl.  I have the
> php-curl extension installed.
>
> Is there a way to get this self-signed cert working?  Or am I going to have
> to buy a cert?

I could be off base here, and you may already have thought of this,
but is the cert tied to the IP address or the name of the server? If
it's tied to the name, and you're accessing it via the IP address,
it's been my experience that the cert will throw an error. Vice versa,
too.

Kurt

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Paul Schmehl writes:

>  Does csup use subversion now?  Or do we need to use something
>  else to fetch source?

	As I understand it, for the average user c(vs)up and subversion
serve the same function using different methods (both in terms of
identifying what files need to be fetched and actually fetching
them).  At this level of discussion they are mutually exclusive.
	I have switched from csup to subversion for ports and docs.
After modest preparation it was essentially painless.


				Robert Huff


					

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--On September 17, 2012 8:42:33 PM -0400 Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> 
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>
> Paul Schmehl writes:
>
>>  Does csup use subversion now?  Or do we need to use something
>>  else to fetch source?
>
> 	As I understand it, for the average user c(vs)up and subversion
> serve the same function using different methods (both in terms of
> identifying what files need to be fetched and actually fetching
> them).  At this level of discussion they are mutually exclusive.
> 	I have switched from csup to subversion for ports and docs.
> After modest preparation it was essentially painless.
>

Are these modest preparations documented somewhere?

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--On September 17, 2012 5:31:25 PM -0700 Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>
> wrote:
>> I'm setting up a new server and plan on migrating a Wordpress blog to it.
>> Right now the server does not resolve with DNS, because the server I'm
>> migrating from is still up and running.  (I'm in the setup and configure
>> stage.)
>>
>> I've got Wordpress installed and working with apache22, mysql 5.4, php
>> 5.5 and suphp.  I've migrated some of the blog over and installed some
>> plugins I need.
>>
>> One of the plugins is the Wordpress jetpack.  I can't figure out how to
>> get this plugin to active.
>>
>> This is the error message I'm getting:
>>
>> Your website needs to be publicly accessible to use Jetpack:
>> site_inaccessible
>>
>> Error Details: The Jetpack server was unable to communicate with your
>> site [IXR -32300: transport error: http_request_failed SSL certificate
>> problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: error:14090086:SSL
>> routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed]
>>
>> I assume this is a problem with the site's self-signed cert not verifying
>> through curl.  I cat'd the cert into the ca-certfile, but it still
>> doesn't work, so maybe I'm wrong.
>>
>> Here's the path for the ca file:
>> # curl-config --ca
>> /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt
>>
>> I cat'd both the site's cert and the Jetpack site's cert into the
>> ca-root-nss.crt file.  I think Jetpack is using php-curl.  I have the
>> php-curl extension installed.
>>
>> Is there a way to get this self-signed cert working?  Or am I going to
>> have to buy a cert?
>
> I could be off base here, and you may already have thought of this,
> but is the cert tied to the IP address or the name of the server? If
> it's tied to the name, and you're accessing it via the IP address,
> it's been my experience that the cert will throw an error. Vice versa,
> too.
>

That did not change a thing.

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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> --On September 17, 2012 5:31:25 PM -0700 Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm setting up a new server and plan on migrating a Wordpress blog to it.
>>> Right now the server does not resolve with DNS, because the server I'm
>>> migrating from is still up and running.  (I'm in the setup and configure
>>> stage.)
>>>
>>> I've got Wordpress installed and working with apache22, mysql 5.4, php
>>> 5.5 and suphp.  I've migrated some of the blog over and installed some
>>> plugins I need.
>>>
>>> One of the plugins is the Wordpress jetpack.  I can't figure out how to
>>> get this plugin to active.
>>>
>>> This is the error message I'm getting:
>>>
>>> Your website needs to be publicly accessible to use Jetpack:
>>> site_inaccessible
>>>
>>> Error Details: The Jetpack server was unable to communicate with your
>>> site [IXR -32300: transport error: http_request_failed SSL certificate
>>> problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: error:14090086:SSL
>>> routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed]
>>>
>>> I assume this is a problem with the site's self-signed cert not verifying
>>> through curl.  I cat'd the cert into the ca-certfile, but it still
>>> doesn't work, so maybe I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> Here's the path for the ca file:
>>> # curl-config --ca
>>> /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt
>>>
>>> I cat'd both the site's cert and the Jetpack site's cert into the
>>> ca-root-nss.crt file.  I think Jetpack is using php-curl.  I have the
>>> php-curl extension installed.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get this self-signed cert working?  Or am I going to
>>> have to buy a cert?
>>
>>
>> I could be off base here, and you may already have thought of this,
>> but is the cert tied to the IP address or the name of the server? If
>> it's tied to the name, and you're accessing it via the IP address,
>> it's been my experience that the cert will throw an error. Vice versa,
>> too.
>>
>
> That did not change a thing.

Hmm. Using the loopback address?

Kurt

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> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> --On September 17, 2012 5:31:25 PM -0700 Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm setting up a new server and plan on migrating a Wordpress blog to
>>>> it. Right now the server does not resolve with DNS, because the server
>>>> I'm migrating from is still up and running.  (I'm in the setup and
>>>> configure stage.)
>>>>
>>>> I've got Wordpress installed and working with apache22, mysql 5.4, php
>>>> 5.5 and suphp.  I've migrated some of the blog over and installed some
>>>> plugins I need.
>>>>
>>>> One of the plugins is the Wordpress jetpack.  I can't figure out how to
>>>> get this plugin to active.
>>>>
>>>> This is the error message I'm getting:
>>>>
>>>> Your website needs to be publicly accessible to use Jetpack:
>>>> site_inaccessible
>>>>
>>>> Error Details: The Jetpack server was unable to communicate with your
>>>> site [IXR -32300: transport error: http_request_failed SSL certificate
>>>> problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: error:14090086:SSL
>>>> routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed]
>>>>
>>>> I assume this is a problem with the site's self-signed cert not
>>>> verifying through curl.  I cat'd the cert into the ca-certfile, but it
>>>> still doesn't work, so maybe I'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the path for the ca file:
>>>> # curl-config --ca
>>>> /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt
>>>>
>>>> I cat'd both the site's cert and the Jetpack site's cert into the
>>>> ca-root-nss.crt file.  I think Jetpack is using php-curl.  I have the
>>>> php-curl extension installed.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to get this self-signed cert working?  Or am I going to
>>>> have to buy a cert?
>>>
>>>
>>> I could be off base here, and you may already have thought of this,
>>> but is the cert tied to the IP address or the name of the server? If
>>> it's tied to the name, and you're accessing it via the IP address,
>>> it's been my experience that the cert will throw an error. Vice versa,
>>> too.
>>>
>>
>> That did not change a thing.
>
> Hmm. Using the loopback address?
>

Um, no.  I'm accessing the site from my house over the web.

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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Robert Huff wrote:

>
> Paul Schmehl writes:
>
>>  Does csup use subversion now?  Or do we need to use something
>>  else to fetch source?
>
> 	As I understand it, for the average user c(vs)up and subversion
> serve the same function using different methods (both in terms of
> identifying what files need to be fetched and actually fetching
> them).  At this level of discussion they are mutually exclusive.
> 	I have switched from csup to subversion for ports and docs.
> After modest preparation it was essentially painless.

The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit history. 
A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space used by the 
svn checkout.

csup updates just the files that have changed without all the overhead. 
svn export can get a copy of all the current files, but it copies all of 
them every time, not just the changes.

An svnup program was under development, but I don't know the present 
status.

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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Paul Schmehl wrote:

> --On September 17, 2012 8:42:33 PM -0400 Robert Huff <roberthuff@rcn.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Paul Schmehl writes:
>>
>>>  Does csup use subversion now?  Or do we need to use something
>>>  else to fetch source?
>>
>> 	As I understand it, for the average user c(vs)up and subversion
>> serve the same function using different methods (both in terms of
>> identifying what files need to be fetched and actually fetching
>> them).  At this level of discussion they are mutually exclusive.
>> 	I have switched from csup to subversion for ports and docs.
>> After modest preparation it was essentially painless.
>> 
>
> Are these modest preparations documented somewhere?

For source, save any local diffs somewhere, delete /usr/src, install svn 
from ports, svn checkout the version you want, patch from the diffs. 
Same for docs.  Example checkout of 9-STABLE:
   svn checkout svn://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src

For ports, it's probably worth saving the distfile directory along with 
local diffs.  Move it back into place after the svn checkout of the 
ports tree.

After that, it's just "svn up" to update the appropriate directory.  If 
something changes in the archive that conflicts with local patches, svn 
will let you know and try to help merge the remote and local changes.
Example update of source checked out as above:
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Robert Huff wrote:
>
>>
>> Paul Schmehl writes:
>>
>>>  Does csup use subversion now?  Or do we need to use something
>>>  else to fetch source?
>>
>>
>>         As I understand it, for the average user c(vs)up and subversion
>> serve the same function using different methods (both in terms of
>> identifying what files need to be fetched and actually fetching
>> them).  At this level of discussion they are mutually exclusive.
>>         I have switched from csup to subversion for ports and docs.
>> After modest preparation it was essentially painless.
>
>
> The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit history. A
> comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space used by the svn
> checkout.
>
> csup updates just the files that have changed without all the overhead. svn
> export can get a copy of all the current files, but it copies all of them
> every time, not just the changes.
>

yea i agree with you.  i wonder if it would be worth the effort of
sharing a svn export via rsync or httpd to make fetching delta's
easier and/or more efficient from a base install?

-pete


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thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same
you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf
file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed
again and changes are applied but error is as the same before:

"loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object"

i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in
libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do
you know how i can fiix it??

thank you for your attention

On 9/17/12, Jamie Paul Griffin <jamie@kode5.net> wrote:
> [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Mon 17.Sep'12 at 10:09:31 +0430 ]
>
>> my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel?
>> could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from
>> fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i
>> think i should do something else to change my driver.
>> please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it.
>> thanks
>
> My video card is also intel. At first I just used the default installation
> config. Then, I used Xorg -configure which created a xorg.conf.new file in
> /root.
>
> I edited this and made very modifications. The relevant sections is:
>
> Section "Device"
>         ### Available Driver options are:-
>         ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
>         ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
>         ### [arg]: arg optional
>         #Option     "NoAccel"                   # [<bool>]
>         #Option     "SWcursor"                  # [<bool>]
>         #Option     "ColorKey"                  # <i>
>         #Option     "CacheLines"                # <i>
>         #Option     "Dac6Bit"                   # [<bool>]
>         Option     "DRI"                        "True" # [<bool>]
>         #Option     "NoDDC"                     # [<bool>]
>         #Option     "ShowCache"                 # [<bool>]
>         #Option     "XvMCSurfaces"              # <i>
>         #Option     "PageFlip"                  # [<bool>]
>         Identifier  "Card0"
>         Driver      "intel"
>         VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
>         BoardName   "4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller"
>         BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
> EndSection
>
>
> Also, near to the top of the file, there is module section. I have this:
>
> Section "Module"
>         Load  "glx"
>         Load  "record"
>         Load  "dri2"
>         Load  "dbe"
>         Load  "dri"
>         Load  "extmod"
> EndSection
>
> Naturally, you can add and remove the things you don't want or need in this
> file. To use the new file for X, rename it (mv(1)) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .
>
> I think that should, I hope, do it for you.
>
> Good luck and I hope that helps you a bit.
>
> Best wishes, Jamie
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[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at  9:40:16 +0430 ]

> thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same
> you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf
> file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed
> again and changes are applied but error is as the same before:
> 
> "loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object"
> 
> i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in
> libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do
> you know how i can fiix it??
 
I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there, perhaps that was a typo?

	 Did you use the command:	Xorg -configure ?

from the command prompt as the root user first?

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Warren Block schreef op :
> The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit
> history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space
> used by the svn checkout.
>
Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have
all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems
like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working
copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached
copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure.

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yes, i used "Xorg -configure" and after that "Xorg -config
xorg.conf.new -retro" as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok
and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i
don't have desktop.
i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred.

i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need
desktop on my BSD box.




On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin <jamie@kode5.net> wrote:
> [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at  9:40:16 +0430 ]
>
>> thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same
>> you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf
>> file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed
>> again and changes are applied but error is as the same before:
>>
>> "loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
>> object"
>>
>> i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in
>> libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do
>> you know how i can fiix it??
>
> I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there,
> perhaps that was a typo?
>
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[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at 12:39:43 +0430 ]

> yes, i used "Xorg -configure" and after that "Xorg -config
> xorg.conf.new -retro" as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok
> and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i
> don't have desktop.
> i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred.
> 
> i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need
> desktop on my BSD box.

Ok, that shows your graphics card will support Xorg. What options did you select when you built X server from ports?

Also, after you've installed Xorg you need to install a window manager or desktop like KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, ...

Then you need to create the file .xinitrc in your home directory; it should contain something like this:

exec spectrwm

Spectrwm is the Window Manager I use, so xinit uses the exec command to start the window manager, in my case spectrwm.

Have you done that yet?

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... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just to test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec twm in your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's working and can then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want. 

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We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a 
shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but 
the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't 
see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC 
from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also.

Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus 
driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.

em0@pci0:2:0:0:	class=0x020000 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
    device     = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
    class      = network
    subclass   = ethernet

Any other suggestions appreciated.

/glz

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	Hi,

	Did you then copy the xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? You'll
need to do that for it to be used by default.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:39:43 +0430
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> yes, i used "Xorg -configure" and after that "Xorg -config
> xorg.conf.new -retro" as a root user. it seems that every thing is ok
> and i see a gray page with mouse curser but when i restart my system i
> don't have desktop.
> i use startx command to test it and fbdevmodule error occurred.
> 
> i really don't know how to fix it:(. have you any suggestion? i need
> desktop on my BSD box.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/18/12, Jamie Paul Griffin <jamie@kode5.net> wrote:
> > [ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Tue 18.Sep'12 at  9:40:16 +0430 ]
> >
> >> thanks Jamie, i changed my driver to intel and modules are as the same
> >> you mentioned but i don't have desktop yet. after editing xorg.conf
> >> file, i restart my system to be sure that xorg.conf file is readed
> >> again and changes are applied but error is as the same before:
> >>
> >> "loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
> >> object"
> >>
> >> i looked in xorg log file and see that there is an error in
> >> libfbdevhw.so which is in /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/linux path. do
> >> you know how i can fiix it??
> >
> > I'm not sure why linux would be included in that path at the end there,
> > perhaps that was a typo?
> >
> > 	 Did you use the command:	Xorg -configure ?
> >
> > from the command prompt as the root user first?
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> We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a 
> shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but 
> the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't 
> see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC 
> from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also.
> 
> Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus 
> driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.
> 
> em0@pci0:2:0:0:	class=0x020000 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
> hdr=0x00
>     vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
>     device     = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
>     class      = network
>     subclass   = ethernet
> 
> Any other suggestions appreciated.

You could remove it from the Kernel config file and build a custom Kernel.

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No, that won't work. This is the NIC we have traffic over:
em1@pci0:3:0:0:	class=0x020000 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
    device     = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
    class      = network
    subclass   = ethernet

So to be exact, I need em0 to not be probed while em1 is probed and 
attached.

/glz

--On September 18, 2012 10:04:21 +0100 Jamie Paul Griffin <jamie@kode5.net> 
wrote:

>
>> We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a
>> shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS
>> but  the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad
>> FBSD don't  see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that
>> disables the NIC  from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI
>> also.
>>
>> Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI
>> bus  driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.
>>
>> em0@pci0:2:0:0:	class=0x020000 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00
>> hdr=0x00
>>     vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
>>     device     = '82574L Gigabit Network Connection'
>>     class      = network
>>     subclass   = ethernet
>>
>> Any other suggestions appreciated.
>
> You could remove it from the Kernel config file and build a custom Kernel.
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thanks dude, yes Steve i copied it.

thanks Jamie, ok i'll try it and inform you results.


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> ... just to quickly add, X installs a simple window manager called twm. Just
> to test further, before installing another window manager/desktop put exec
> twm in your .xinitrc file. That 'should' start twm. Then you know it's
> working and can then install the Window Manager or Desktop you want.
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Hi all, I built a jail for the first time but realised I needed to redo
the buildworld. 'make installworld DESTDIR=/usr/jail/ns2' then failed with:

install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444   libc.a /usr/jail/ns2/usr/lib
install -s -o root -g wheel -m 444   -fschg -S  libc.so.7 /usr/jail/ns2/lib
install: rename: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/INS@G4LP to /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted
*** Error code 71

# ls -lo /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  schg 1157460 Sep 17 19:40 /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7

Which I can't change in the current secure level. It seems that the original
installworld set this with the 'install -fschg' flag? Why? The host system doesn't
have these flags. These files are also affected:

# chflags -R noschg /usr/jail/ns2
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/bin/rcp: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/sbin/init: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chpass: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chfn: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/chsh: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchpass: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchfn: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/ypchsh: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/login: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/opieinfo: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/opiepasswd: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/passwd: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/yppasswd: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/rlogin: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/rsh: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/su: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/bin/crontab: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/usr/lib/librt.so.1: Operation not permitted
chflags: /usr/jail/ns2/var/empty: Operation not permitted

# uname -a
FreeBSD XXX 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Wed Sep 12 22:15:43 SAST 2012     root@XXX:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

# cat /etc/make.conf
WITHOUT_X11=yes
X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}
CFLAGS=-O -pipe
# added by use.perl 2012-09-13 20:25:18
PERL_VERSION=5.16.0

# cat /etc/src.conf
WITHOUT_PROFILE=TRUE

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Göran Löwkrantz <goran.lowkrantz <at> ismobile.com> writes:

> ... 
> Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus 
> driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help.
> ...

DEVICE.HINTS(5)

The format is:
hint.driver.unit.keyword="value"
The keyword may be:
...
disabled  can be set to "1" to disable the device.
       ^
Note the wording "^" here.

jb



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2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev:
> my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel?
> could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from
> fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i
> think i should do something else to change my driver.
> please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it.
> thanks


Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again.


>
>
> On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel <sts@tp1.rub.de> wrote:
>> Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh:
>>> *hello guys,
>>>
>>> i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11 and
>>> gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run
>>> startx
>>> command, it has the following error:
>>>
>>> failed to load module "fbdev"
>>>
>>> when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error
>>> occurred:
>>> "loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
>>> object"
>>>
>>> i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i
>>> change
>>> the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again.
>>>
>>> anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box?
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>> What video card do you have? You need to have the correct driver installed.
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Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at all.=20
That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity. And it=20
still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still disappeared=20
when the probing started. The serial port worked up until beasty.

/glz

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> G=C3=B6ran L=C3=B6wkrantz <goran.lowkrantz <at> ismobile.com> writes:
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>> ...
>> Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI
>> bus  driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=3D1 but it does not help. =
...
>
> DEVICE.HINTS(5)
>
> The format is:
> hint.driver.unit.keyword=3D"value"
> The keyword may be:
> ...
> disabled  can be set to "1" to disable the device.
>        ^
> Note the wording "^" here.
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Göran Löwkrantz <goran.lowkrantz <at> ismobile.com> writes:

> 
> Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at all. 
> That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity. And it 
> still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still disappeared 
> when the probing started. The serial port worked up until beasty.

Well, there is something you could try (I have not tested it myself and
I am not sure if this does not apply to post-boot device discovery only):

devd(8), devd.conf(5), DEVFS.RULES(5)
See examples:
$ cat /etc/devd.conf 
...
# An entry like this might be in a different file, but is included here
# as an example of how to override things.  Normally 'ed50' would match
# the above attach/detach stuff, but the value of 100 makes it
# hard wired to 1.2.3.4.
attach 100 {
      device-name "ed50";
      action "ifconfig $device-name inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0xffff0000";
};
detach 100 {
      device-name "ed50";
};
...

So, just thinking loudly:
  attach 100 {
        device-name "em0";
        action "??? some action e.g. ifconfig $device-name down :-) ???";
  };
etc.
   
jb



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We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-)

- M

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>> The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit
>> history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space
>> used by the svn checkout.
>>
> Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have
> all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems
> like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working
> copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached
> copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure.
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Well, I already tested this in rc.conf:

ifconfig_em0=3D"down"

and it didn't help.

There is an new IPMI 2.66 vs. my running 2.64 that I will test but unless=20
someone has any other idea, it seems like I am stuck.

/glz

--On September 18, 2012 11:49:17 +0000 jb <jb1234abcd@gmail.com> wrote:

> G=C3=B6ran L=C3=B6wkrantz <goran.lowkrantz <at> ismobile.com> writes:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the correction but getting the hint to work didn't help at
>> all.  That removed both interfaces and thus all network connectivity.
>> And it  still didn't work with the IPMI as the remote console still
>> disappeared  when the probing started. The serial port worked up until
>> beasty.
>
> Well, there is something you could try (I have not tested it myself and
> I am not sure if this does not apply to post-boot device discovery only):
>
> devd(8), devd.conf(5), DEVFS.RULES(5)
> See examples:
> $ cat /etc/devd.conf
> ...
># An entry like this might be in a different file, but is included here
># as an example of how to override things.  Normally 'ed50' would match
># the above attach/detach stuff, but the value of 100 makes it
># hard wired to 1.2.3.4.
> attach 100 {
>       device-name "ed50";
>       action "ifconfig $device-name inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 0xffff0000";
> };
> detach 100 {
>       device-name "ed50";
> };
> ...
>
> So, just thinking loudly:
>   attach 100 {
>         device-name "em0";
>         action "??? some action e.g. ifconfig $device-name down :-) ???";
>   };
> etc.
>
> jb
>
>
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:00:08 -0700
Michael Sierchio articulated:

> We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
> disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
> bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
> I know of will have moved from subversion to git.

If you are going to make a sweeping change anyway, it makes no sense to
do it in a half–assed manned. However, it does appear that in all too
many instances, FreeBSD plays follow the leader rather then taking the
bulls by the horns and getting ahead of the curve. I am sure I'll be
hearing from the "baby steps" choir now. In any event, a comprehensive
side-by-side evaluation of the two should be done by an impartial party.

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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:00:08 -0500, Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com>  
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> We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
> disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
> bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
> I know of will have moved from subversion to git.

Git is available in a hush-hush unsupported fashion for ports and source.  
I'll warn you: it will take you forever to pull it.

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Jerry schreef op :
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:00:08 -0700
> Michael Sierchio articulated:
>
>> We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
>> disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
>> bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious 
>> project
>> I know of will have moved from subversion to git.
>
> If you are going to make a sweeping change anyway, it makes no sense 
> to
> do it in a half–assed manned. However, it does appear that in all too
> many instances, FreeBSD plays follow the leader rather then taking 
> the
> bulls by the horns and getting ahead of the curve. I am sure I'll be
> hearing from the "baby steps" choir now. In any event, a 
> comprehensive
> side-by-side evaluation of the two should be done by an impartial 
> party.
>
We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two 
different
workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle, and 
the
former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not 
really
have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more 
about
the production cycle you want to have.
If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) 
be in
control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested 
changesets
by the community of developers. This community would be more free in 
the
manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong
differentiation between "committers" and other people suggesting 
updates. On
the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of 
committers
and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the 
schedule
and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely simplified.)
It is a matter of taste.

On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a 
complete
repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite 
"heavy-weight".

Stas


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On 09/18/12 13:00, Michael Sierchio wrote:
> We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
> disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
> bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
> I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-)

It's worth reading this

http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitDrawbacks


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Göran Löwkrantz <goran.lowkrantz <at> ismobile.com> writes:

> ... 
> There is an new IPMI 2.66 vs. my running 2.64 that I will test but unless 
> someone has any other idea, it seems like I am stuck.

You may consider updating BIOS as well if needed:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/ich9/x7spa.cfm?typ=h&ipmi=y

jb



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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Stas Verberkt wrote:

> Warren Block schreef op :
>> The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit
>> history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space
>> used by the svn checkout.
>> 
> Although I believe the checkouts are bigger, I do not think they have
> all the commit history. This is where SVN and CVS differ from systems
> like Git or Mercury, which have all the history in a local working
> copy. I think the overhead of SVN consists of backups and cached
> copies of the previous revision, but I am not quite sure.

You're right.  'svn blame', for instance, retrieves the history from the 
repository.  So it's not as bad as it could be... but that 700M number 
was from a ports tree checkout.  My source checkout shows 869M in .svn. 
That's a pretty large chunk of bandwidth for data that is useless to 
someone who just wants to do a buildworld, as opposed to actually 
working on the source.

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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, pete wright wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
>>
>> csup updates just the files that have changed without all the overhead. svn
>> export can get a copy of all the current files, but it copies all of them
>> every time, not just the changes.
>>
>
> yea i agree with you.  i wonder if it would be worth the effort of
> sharing a svn export via rsync or httpd to make fetching delta's
> easier and/or more efficient from a base install?

It's an interesting idea.  If the repository files were directly 
accessible in a filesystem, that filesystem could be shared with rsyncd 
and some exclude settings without needing an export at all.  With svn 
bdb, the files are not directly accessible, but I don't know for fsfs. 
Probably not, so a periodic export would still be required.

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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:44:46 +0200
Stas Verberkt articulated:

> We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two 
> different
> workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle,
> and the
> former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not 
> really
> have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more 
> about
> the production cycle you want to have.
> If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) 
> be in
> control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested 
> changesets
> by the community of developers. This community would be more free in 
> the
> manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong
> differentiation between "committers" and other people suggesting 
> updates. On
> the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of 
> committers
> and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the 
> schedule
> and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely
> simplified.) It is a matter of taste.
> 
> On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a 
> complete
> repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite 
> "heavy-weight".

I found the information at this URL
<http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitConversion> quite interesting, especially
the numbers under the "Speed Comparisons" heading at the end.

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Hi all;

i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : "make freebsd=1"

and it give me :
 "Makefile", line 14: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 16: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 21: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 23: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 43: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 50: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 51: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 57: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 63: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 64: Need an operator
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

can any one help me please,Thank you.

Best regards
Ahmed el ouadrhiri

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> Hi all;
> 
> i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : "make freebsd=1"
> 
> and it give me :
>  "Makefile", line 14: Need an operator

	At a guess you need to use gmake (you may need to install it first
from the ports).

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Warren Block writes:

>  You're right.  'svn blame', for instance, retrieves the history
>  from the repository.  So it's not as bad as it could be... but
>  that 700M number was from a ports tree checkout.  My source
>  checkout shows 869M in .svn.  That's a pretty large chunk of
>  bandwidth for data that is useless to someone who just wants to
>  do a buildworld, as opposed to actually working on the source.

	Having no idea about what's inside the black box ... it would
be nice to be able to specify a default level of commit retireval
with overrides on a per-subtree basis.


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Göran Löwkrantz <goran.lowkrantz <at> ismobile.com> writes:

> 
> We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a 
> shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS but 
> the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad FBSD don't 
> see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that disables the NIC 
> from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI also.
> ...

I assume you should be able to configure the NIC thru IPMI (quote from
Google-found thread:
... "go to ipmi panel and choose "share" for "Lan Interface" ...).

Btw, after you finished resolving the issue and collecting facts, please 
consider filing a Problem Report with FreeBSD - that device hint disabling em0
and bringing down both em0 and em1 interfaces should be looked at by devs,
I guess - after all, they should be two independent net ports, as they have
two distinct MACs.
I believe you said em0 is LAN, and em1 is IPMI.
 
jb



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No, that does not work. On a different host, that has an dedicated IPMI=20
NIC, I have a dropdown with the alternatives Dedicated, Share and Failover=20
but on this I only have a grayed out Share, no alternatives and no choices. =

So this seems to be something hardwired in the MB.

I will do a PR on the hit stuff.


/glz

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> G=C3=B6ran L=C3=B6wkrantz <goran.lowkrantz <at> ismobile.com> writes:
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>>
>> We have a system based on Supermicro X7SPA-HF with IPMI connected via a
>> shared 82574L NIC. We are not using this NIC for anything from the OS
>> but  the probing and device attach breaks the IPMI connection so bad
>> FBSD don't  see any screen during boot. There is no BIOS flag that
>> disables the NIC  from the OS, only a HW strap but that dsables the IPMI
>> also.
>> ...
>
> I assume you should be able to configure the NIC thru IPMI (quote from
> Google-found thread:
> ... "go to ipmi panel and choose "share" for "Lan Interface" ...).
>
> Btw, after you finished resolving the issue and collecting facts, please
> consider filing a Problem Report with FreeBSD - that device hint
> disabling em0 and bringing down both em0 and em1 interfaces should be
> looked at by devs, I guess - after all, they should be two independent
> net ports, as they have two distinct MACs.
> I believe you said em0 is LAN, and em1 is IPMI.
>
> jb
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>>>>> "Stas" == Stas Verberkt <legolas@legolasweb.nl> writes:

Stas> On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a complete
Stas> repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite
Stas> "heavy-weight".

The entire history of the Linux kernel since switching to git 5 years
ago is stored in a repo that is *less than half the size* of a single
current checkout.

The entire history of the XFree86 project ended up being a repo that was
only 2-3 times the size of the current checkout.

Seriously, don't be afraid of git simply because "it has all the
history".  SVN is already worse because it has a single local backup
copy for every live file, 2x right there.

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On 18-09-2012 14:00, Michael Sierchio wrote:
> We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
> disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
> bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
> I know of will have moved from subversion to git. ;-)

I have both a git and svn checkout of FreeBSD current and while git
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FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
apache22

Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are 
plenty here who know how to do this.

On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into a 
new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 referrers 
still linking to the old location.

If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
how would we redirect to www.newplace.html

Appreciate advice....

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On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote:
> FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
> apache22
>
> Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there are 
> plenty here who know how to do this.
>
> On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into 
> a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 
> referrers still linking to the old location.
>
> If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
> how would we redirect to www.newplace.html
>
> Appreciate advice....
>
I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about a 
dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and 
redirect to the new "www.newplace.html"

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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:15 -0500
Jack Stone <jacks@sage-american.com> wrote:

> On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote:
> > FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
> > apache22
> >
> > Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there
> > are plenty here who know how to do this.
> >
> > On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into 
> > a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100 
> > referrers still linking to the old location.
> >
> > If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
> > how would we redirect to www.newplace.html
> >
> > Appreciate advice....
> >
> I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about
> a dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and 
> redirect to the new "www.newplace.html"

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301

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On 9/18/2012 1:35 PM, Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:15 -0500
> Jack Stone <jacks@sage-american.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/18/2012 12:37 PM, Jack Stone wrote:
>>> FreeBSD mail.sagedata.net 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10
>>> apache22
>>>
>>> Sorry if this belongs on a different mail list, but figure there
>>> are plenty here who know how to do this.
>>>
>>> On one of our web sites, some 4 years ago we moved the content into
>>> a new directory, but after all this time there are some 100
>>> referrers still linking to the old location.
>>>
>>> If the incoming link doesn't direct one to www.myweb.com/
>>> how would we redirect to www.newplace.html
>>>
>>> Appreciate advice....
>>>
>> I should have mentioned, those old links are being directed to about
>> a dozen various directories. I want the referrer to ignore those and
>> redirect to the new "www.newplace.html"
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301
>
Thanks for the help but I figured it out and doesn't even notify a 301 
that place has been moved which I like. Slick!!

Here's examples of dirs and pages using rewrite in the .htaccess file:

RewriteEngine on
# dirs
RewriteRule ^a10 lbc_signup.html [PT]

# pages
RewriteRule ^abook.html lbc_signup.html [PT]


-- 
--
All the best,
Jack


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On Tue 2012-09-18 (11:30), Gareth de Vaux wrote:
> The host system doesn't have these flags.

I was mistaken, they do.

Looking at /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk and /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk -
bins and libs get installed with schg if PRECIOUSPROG and PRECIOUSLIB are
set respectively in their makefiles, both of which can be overridden by
setting NO_FSCHG, presumably in /etc/make.conf.

Without this doing jail maintenance/upgrades is a nightmare on a host with
a securelevel of 1 but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere.

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thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and
displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have
desktop yet.
you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too.

please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my
problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore.

thanks

On 9/18/12, Bernt Hansson <bah@bananmonarki.se> wrote:
> 2012-09-17 07:39, saeedeh motlagh skrev:
>> my video card is intel, you mean i should change my driver to intel?
>> could you please tell me how to do that? i change my driver type from
>> fbdev to vesa in xorg.conf file but it has the fbdevhw error yet. i
>> think i should do something else to change my driver.
>> please let me know if i'm making mistake and how to fix it.
>> thanks
>
>
> Try to deinstall /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev. Then try startx again.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On 9/16/12, Stephan Schindel <sts@tp1.rub.de> wrote:
>>> Am 16.09.2012 13:59, schrieb saeedeh motlagh:
>>>> *hello guys,
>>>>
>>>> i installed freebsd8.2 and upgraded my portsnap.then i installed X11
>>>> and
>>>> gnome2 and configured x11 but it does not work correctly. when i run
>>>> startx
>>>> command, it has the following error:
>>>>
>>>> failed to load module "fbdev"
>>>>
>>>> when i install fbdev from /x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev the other error
>>>> occurred:
>>>> "loadmodule: module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data
>>>> object"
>>>>
>>>> i try to change my driver from fbdev to vesa. in order to do that, i
>>>> change
>>>> the name of driver in Xorg.conf but the same error happend again.
>>>>
>>>> anybody knows how i should solve it to have desktop on my freebsd box?
>>>> *
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Hi:

Does bsnmp use mib files or I should translate to def files

Also, I detect that bsnmpwalk return 0 when a timeout conecction ocurred

I am using PC-BSD

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I was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if I could get a 
system booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from my FreeNAS 
box.

I got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live CD, created a 
/tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, connected to 
the target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and just a 
single / volume using remianing space.  Copied the bootcode, created the 
file system, extracted the system etc.  Created a loader.conf file, 
added the iscsi_initiator_load="YES" option, copied my /tmp/iscsi.conf 
file to the new file system at /etc/iscsi.conf created a /etc/fstab file 
using the gpart labels to mount / and swap partitions.

Booted the system from the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration 
options, connected to the iscsi volume, and booted from it.  It does 
launch the bootcode, as expected, and then breaks failing to mount root.

Whoch I actually expected, I have proved I can install to an iSCSI 
volume, I can connect to that iSCSI volume prior to loading the kernel, 
and load the kernel from it.

What I can't seem to find any information on is how to mount iSCSI 
volumes at boot on FreeBSD, so that the kernel can mount the root 
partition.  Does anyone have any idea how to do this, or if its even 
possible?

-- 
Thanks,
    Dean E. Weimer
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merlyn@stonehenge.com schreef op :
>>>>>> "Stas" == Stas Verberkt <legolas@legolasweb.nl> writes:
>
> Stas> On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to
> download a complete
> Stas> repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite
> Stas> "heavy-weight".
>
> The entire history of the Linux kernel since switching to git 5 years
> ago is stored in a repo that is *less than half the size* of a single
> current checkout.
>
> The entire history of the XFree86 project ended up being a repo that 
> was
> only 2-3 times the size of the current checkout.
>
> Seriously, don't be afraid of git simply because "it has all the
> history".  SVN is already worse because it has a single local backup
> copy for every live file, 2x right there.
>
I may have been influenced here by the fact that, in KDE, the size 
became
a problem, due to the large amounts of binary content in the 
repositories
(artwork), which is, of course, not the case for FreeBSD.

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thank you a lot Steve;

it's worked very well.

Best regards

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> > Hi all;
> >
> > i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : "make freebsd=1"
> >
> > and it give me :
> >  "Makefile", line 14: Need an operator
>
>         At a guess you need to use gmake (you may need to install it first
> from the ports).
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> --
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I have or had a problem with a file system (FreeBSD UFS2) messed up, either by errant software or system freeze/crash.

I successfully cross-compiled, from FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE, a NetBSD 5.1_STABLE i386 system to install on 8 GB USB stick.

I have both the NetBSD system source as well as pkgsrc and the FreeBSD ports tree on a FreeBSD partition originally used for FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1, hence I use /BETA1 as the mount point.  This partition is /dev/ada0p9 in FreeBSD and /dev/dk6 in NetBSD.

I subsequently built modular-xorg for this NetBSD installation, installating to USB stick but doing the heavy compiling on the hard-drive partition.

NetBSD, especially with X, is rather freeze/crash-prone, meaning file system is not cleanly umounted.

I then tried to cross-compile, from same NetBSD source tree, NetBSD 5.1_STABLE amd64 but was thrown in the debugger (db>), not really knowing what to do there.  Choosing reset did not provide clean file-system unmount.

I had to run "fsck /dev/ada0p9" on the reboot, got unreadable sectors and eventually a prompt to run fsck again.  I did this but got to an infinite loop, where I got the same prompt again to run fsck again, with the same unreadable blocks.

I got the same thing booting a backup installation of FreeBSD 9.0_STABLE amd64 on a USB stick.

I eventually ran with "script" to capture the output onto another USB stick, sorry about all those ASCII 13s at the ends of the lines:

Script started on Wed Sep 19 04:15:02 2012
fsck_ffs /dev/ada0p9
** /dev/ada0p9
** Last Mounted on /BETA1
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes

CANNOT READ BLK: 7584192
CONTINUE? [yn] y

THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 7584318, 7584319,
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
1475900 files, 4638292 used, 21162419 free (61643 frags, 2637597 blocks, 0.2% fragmentation)

***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY *****

***** PLEASE RERUN FSCK *****

Script done on Wed Sep 19 04:17:27 2012


Would this indicate a software bug, or is my Western Digital Caviar Green 3 TB hard drive failing?

I booted that USB stick with NetBSD 5.1_STABLE i386, successfully mounted that partition, /dev/dk6 in NetBSD, but got the message about dirty flag.

So I umounted and ran NetBSD fsck_ffs, and after removing some files, mainly in /pkgsrc directory, and salvaging some stuff, got apparent success, and now that file system is again accessible in both NetBSD 5.1_STABLE i386 and FreeBSD 9.0_STABLE amd64.

Now I wonder if the file system is really fixed, with possibly some files in /pkgsrc subdirectories lost, or if the hard drive is starting to fail.

Tom

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:05:06 -0400
"Thomas Mueller" <mueller23@insightbb.com> wrote:

> THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 7584318, 7584319,
> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
> 1475900 files, 4638292 used, 21162419 free (61643 frags, 2637597 blocks,
> 0.2% fragmentation)
> 
> ***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY *****
> 
> ***** PLEASE RERUN FSCK *****
> 
> Script done on Wed Sep 19 04:17:27 2012
> 
> 
> Would this indicate a software bug, or is my Western Digital Caviar Green
> 3 TB hard drive failing?

	Either something was referencing sectors off the end of the disc,
or the drive is failing. I'd be inclined to copy the data off somewhere
safe and subject the disc to extensive tests with smartctl from
smartmontools, then if it passes recreate the fileystem(s) and restore the
data.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith <ateve@sohara.org>

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Hi,

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:05:06 -0400
"Thomas Mueller" <mueller23@insightbb.com> wrote:

> Script started on Wed Sep 19 04:15:02 2012
> fsck_ffs /dev/ada0p9

just to make sure: the partition was not mounted when you started fsck?

> Now I wonder if the file system is really fixed, with possibly some
> files in /pkgsrc subdirectories lost, or if the hard drive is
> starting to fail.

You see it soon. I would not bother about a single problem like this. I
have had it over and over again at a location with bad power supply
with a normal PC without UPS.

The hard disk is - one year later - still working in a different
location without any new problems.

Erich

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2012-09-19 07:23, saeedeh motlagh skrev:
> thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and
> displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have
> desktop yet.
> you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too.
>
> please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my
> problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore.
>
> thanks

Try this;

cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers && make rmconfig

Then when you run make double check you do not have fbdev marked.


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On Tue 2012-09-18 (23:31), Gareth de Vaux wrote:
> Looking at /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk and /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk -
> bins and libs get installed with schg if PRECIOUSPROG and PRECIOUSLIB are
> set respectively in their makefiles, both of which can be overridden by
> setting NO_FSCHG, presumably in /etc/make.conf.
> 
> Without this doing jail maintenance/upgrades is a nightmare on a host with
> a securelevel of 1 but I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere.

For the record the override works, except with /usr/bin/passwd. There seems
to be a missing 'if !defined(NO_FSCHG)' condition around the afterinstall
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Folks,

Seems that those (like me) concerned about 9.1 release branch activity 
not having been exported to CVS, requiring moving to SVN and abandoning 
c*sup source updating 'all of a sudden', can relax migration schedules a 
bit, for now .. though it's been a good 'gee-up' for me, at least.

Probably worth mentioning that this only ever affected RELENG_9_1, ie 
9.1 BETAs and RCs, not RELENG_9 (ie 9-STABLE) sources.

Thanks Bjoern!

cheers, Ian

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On Thu, 23 Aug 2012, Ken Smith wrote:

Hi,

let me reply to the very initial email in this monster of public thread.

> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been
> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS.  So
> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC1.
> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1.

RELENG_9_1 is now exported the CVS as well and will be for as long as
things will be exported to CVS.   It will take another few hours to
get near your local mirror as they'll all be chewing on each other the
next 12 hours.  Enjoy!

Any further discussions on src export I'll leave to other people
wearing hats.

/bz

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, pete wright wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> csup updates just the files that have changed without all the overhead.
>>> svn
>>> export can get a copy of all the current files, but it copies all of them
>>> every time, not just the changes.
>>>
>>
>> yea i agree with you.  i wonder if it would be worth the effort of
>> sharing a svn export via rsync or httpd to make fetching delta's
>> easier and/or more efficient from a base install?
>
>
> It's an interesting idea.  If the repository files were directly accessible
> in a filesystem, that filesystem could be shared with rsyncd and some
> exclude settings without needing an export at all.  With svn bdb, the files
> are not directly accessible, but I don't know for fsfs. Probably not, so a
> periodic export would still be required.

i did some tinkering with this last night, with the thought of storing
an export in a zfs filesystem and eventually making it available
publicly via a jail.  my findings were that an export of the 9.1 relng
branch consumed ~750MB while a svn co consumed ~1.4G of disk space and
a full export took roughly 10-15mins.  i eventually decided that what
I was doing wasn't really needed by the wider end-user community.

after mulling this move from cvs/csup for a bit i came to the
conclusion that really the need for a source checkout is not as
important as it may have been several years ago.  freebsd-update is a
really great tool, and i reckon for a majority of users out there not
having to rebuild the kernel+world to get updates is a good thing(tm).
 i also reckon running a GENERIC kernel is appropriate in maybe %90 of
use-cases out there as well (i haven't had a need to build a custom
kernel on various server and workstation platforms since 2008'ish
frankly).

in this context, going the binary distribution route seems like a
really smart decision.  having a majority of your users basically
running the same builds of the world and kernel *should* decrease the
amount of support bandwidth needed to get people updated and running
current code.  i also reckon having more people running the same
binaries would be helpful in finding reproducible bugs and hopefully
squash them.

so back to my original point...for sites running many systems, or
sites requiring specific builds - mirroring the source tree locally is
still very doable, and fortunately there are many well known ways to
do this (svn co, svn export, skv, etc..).  you could even argue that
having a svn checkout may make patching bugs easier as you could just
import a svn diff, rebuild and test.  i also feel, personally, that it
is nice to allow someone else build the kernel+world and let me grab
binary updates as needed.  now i can spend my clock cycles on more
important tasks, like building packages for my pkgng repo :)


-pete

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Stas Verberkt <legolas@legolasweb.nl> wrot=
e:
> Jerry schreef op :
>
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:00:08 -0700
>> Michael Sierchio articulated:
>>
>>> We are really behind the curve here.  Git assumes (correctly) that
>>> disk space is inexpensive, much cheaper per byte than network
>>> bandwidth.  By the time we adopt SVN completely, every serious project
>>> I know of will have moved from subversion to git.
>>
>>
>> If you are going to make a sweeping change anyway, it makes no sense to
>> do it in a half=96assed manned. However, it does appear that in all too
>> many instances, FreeBSD plays follow the leader rather then taking the
>> bulls by the horns and getting ahead of the curve. I am sure I'll be
>> hearing from the "baby steps" choir now. In any event, a comprehensive
>> side-by-side evaluation of the two should be done by an impartial party.
>>
> We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two differe=
nt
> workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle, and th=
e
> former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not reall=
y
> have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more abo=
ut
> the production cycle you want to have.
> If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) be =
in
> control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested changese=
ts
> by the community of developers. This community would be more free in the
> manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong
> differentiation between "committers" and other people suggesting updates.=
 On
> the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of committers
> and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the schedule
> and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely simplified.)
> It is a matter of taste.
>

+1

one thing worth noting is that developers have been using mercurial
for quite a bit of time now for FreeBSD development(1), to take
advantage of the distributed model of that SCM.  yet having the main
tree under CVS in the past, and SVN currently, makes sense to me.  i
feel that it results in a cleaner public tree that is easier to
navigate.  so fortunately the project has been able to take advantage
of both of of these philosophies of SCM.

-pete

(1) http://wiki.freebsd.org/LocalMercurial


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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:26:45 -0600, Warren Block wrote:

> For ports, it's probably worth saving the distfile directory along with
> local diffs.  Move it back into place after the svn checkout of the
> ports tree.

PMFJI. Newbie here: What's wrong with using SVN for src, and portsnap for 
ports?

Thanks.


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Walter Hurry writes:

>  PMFJI. Newbie here: What's wrong with using SVN for src, and
>  portsnap for ports?

	_Wrong_?  Nothing.
	But a lot of people like the idea of using the same tool to
solve nearly identical problems.
	Your experience may diverga.



					Robert Huff


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Hi list!

I must warn you, I'm quite new to FreeBSD (I'm mostly using Linux
otherwise). I have inherited an old (yes, very old) BSD 4.7 machine on
my work that I need to clone. I've setuped an identical copy of the
slices on the target machine, ran dump the source machine and restore
on the target machine, edited /etc/fstab to match the filesystems. I'm
also running the GENERIC-kernel, I've done this using the FreeSBIE
live CD.

However, when I boot I get to BTX loader (so I guess boot0 and boot2
is correct), that can't load kernel nor kernel.old. see attached
img1.png . I can't ls, as the loader says there is no such file or
directory (also seen in img1.png).
lsdev gives a correct answer, all slices are there with their correct
size. echo $currdev returns disk1s1a as it should (see attached
img2.png).

Mounting the disks works, and their content is correct, with all file
params set.

Any ideas how to get this target machine to boot?

Thanks in advance,
Fritiof Hedman

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:28:30 +0200, Fritiof Hedman wrote:
> Hi list!
> 
> I must warn you, I'm quite new to FreeBSD (I'm mostly using Linux
> otherwise). I have inherited an old (yes, very old) BSD 4.7 machine on
> my work that I need to clone. I've setuped an identical copy of the
> slices on the target machine, ran dump the source machine and restore
> on the target machine, edited /etc/fstab to match the filesystems. I'm
> also running the GENERIC-kernel, I've done this using the FreeSBIE
> live CD.

What procedure did you use to clone? There basically is
the "one" way, using dump + restore on partitions (not
slices!), or dd on either partitions, slices, or the
whole disk.



> However, when I boot I get to BTX loader (so I guess boot0 and boot2
> is correct), that can't load kernel nor kernel.old. see attached
> img1.png .

Images cannot be attached to list messages. :-(



> I can't ls, as the loader says there is no such file or
> directory (also seen in img1.png).

You can use "echo *" in the loader stage, if I remember
correctly. Enter "?" for a list of the available loader
commands (or was it "help"?).



> lsdev gives a correct answer, all slices are there with their correct
> size. echo $currdev returns disk1s1a as it should (see attached
> img2.png).

Good, so the copy you've created seems to be okay.



> Mounting the disks works, and their content is correct, with all file
> params set.
> 
> Any ideas how to get this target machine to boot?

Maybe you just missed to prepare the "boot attributes" of the
new disk properly?

I suggest having a look at those documents:

Disk Setup On FreeBSD
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html

Backup Options For FreeBSD
dump(8)/restore(8)
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_em_dump_8_em_em_restore_8_em

I'm almost sure that you will need to re-initialize something
within the boot chain (guess without further diagnostics)...




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:26:45 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
>
>> For ports, it's probably worth saving the distfile directory along with
>> local diffs.  Move it back into place after the svn checkout of the
>> ports tree.
>
> PMFJI. Newbie here: What's wrong with using SVN for src, and portsnap for
> ports?

That's another way.  If there are any local changes to the ports tree, 
portsnap will overwrite them.  I also find portsnap slower than either 
csup or svn.

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On 19 September 2012 23:37, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:28:30 +0200, Fritiof Hedman wrote:
>> Hi list!
>>
>> I must warn you, I'm quite new to FreeBSD (I'm mostly using Linux
>> otherwise). I have inherited an old (yes, very old) BSD 4.7 machine on
>> my work that I need to clone. I've setuped an identical copy of the
>> slices on the target machine, ran dump the source machine and restore
>> on the target machine, edited /etc/fstab to match the filesystems. I'm
>> also running the GENERIC-kernel, I've done this using the FreeSBIE
>> live CD.
>
> What procedure did you use to clone? There basically is
> the "one" way, using dump + restore on partitions (not
> slices!), or dd on either partitions, slices, or the
> whole disk.
>

I maybe not so sure about the nomenclature that is used in FreeBSD.
However, I dumped /  on the source machine, and restored on /mnt/tmp
on the source machine.


>
>
>> However, when I boot I get to BTX loader (so I guess boot0 and boot2
>> is correct), that can't load kernel nor kernel.old. see attached
>> img1.png .
>
> Images cannot be attached to list messages. :-(
>

Oh, I see. It essentilally says something like:

BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
Console: internal video/keyboard
BIOS drive A: is disk0
BIOS drive C: is disk1
BIOS 638kB/1046464kB available memory

FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8
(root@builder.freebsdmall.com, Wed Oct 9 12:33:26 GMT 2002)
\
Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
Booting [kernel]
can't load 'kernel'
can't load 'kernel.old'

Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
ok ls
open '/' failed: no such file or directory
ok

>
>> I can't ls, as the loader says there is no such file or
>> directory (also seen in img1.png).
>
> You can use "echo *" in the loader stage, if I remember
> correctly. Enter "?" for a list of the available loader
> commands (or was it "help"?).
>
echo * just prints a pretty asterisk :)

>
>
>> lsdev gives a correct answer, all slices are there with their correct
>> size. echo $currdev returns disk1s1a as it should (see attached
>> img2.png).
>
> Good, so the copy you've created seems to be okay.
>
>
>
>> Mounting the disks works, and their content is correct, with all file
>> params set.
>>
>> Any ideas how to get this target machine to boot?
>
> Maybe you just missed to prepare the "boot attributes" of the
> new disk properly?
>
> I suggest having a look at those documents:
>
> Disk Setup On FreeBSD
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html
>
> Backup Options For FreeBSD
> dump(8)/restore(8)
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_em_dump_8_em_em_restore_8_em
>
> I'm almost sure that you will need to re-initialize something
> within the boot chain (guess without further diagnostics)...

It was more or less that way I did id,  the difference were that I
mounted /usr under /, and not unmount each partition every time. I'm
rerunning as the first document says that I should do (ie unmount the
partition that I've just dumped and restored). I've  justed tested to
do as described in the document, with the very same result.

Yeah, that's my guess as well. Maybe I should do the minimal install
of the FreeBSD image first, boot into  a live mode and then restore
everything upon the disks? That would keep any boot flags on the disks
right. But the thing that is annoying is that the loader can't browse
the content of the disk. I guess that's the main issue here.

Cheers,
Fritiof


>
>
>
>
> --
> Polytropon
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:26:45 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
>
>> For ports, it's probably worth saving the distfile directory along with
>> local diffs.  Move it back into place after the svn checkout of the
>> ports tree.
>
> PMFJI. Newbie here: What's wrong with using SVN for src, and portsnap for
> ports?
>

my personal issue is the fact that csup and portsnap are both part of
the base system whereas svn would require installation via ports or
the pkg utility.  it is frankly a minor inconvenience - and hopefully
there will be a csup like utility for svn available in base one day.

-pete

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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:22:20 +0200, Fritiof Hedman wrote:
> On 19 September 2012 23:37, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:28:30 +0200, Fritiof Hedman wrote:
> >> Hi list!
> >>
> >> I must warn you, I'm quite new to FreeBSD (I'm mostly using Linux
> >> otherwise). I have inherited an old (yes, very old) BSD 4.7 machine on
> >> my work that I need to clone. I've setuped an identical copy of the
> >> slices on the target machine, ran dump the source machine and restore
> >> on the target machine, edited /etc/fstab to match the filesystems. I'm
> >> also running the GENERIC-kernel, I've done this using the FreeSBIE
> >> live CD.
> >
> > What procedure did you use to clone? There basically is
> > the "one" way, using dump + restore on partitions (not
> > slices!), or dd on either partitions, slices, or the
> > whole disk.
> >
> 
> I maybe not so sure about the nomenclature that is used in FreeBSD.

The terminology is simple and as follows:

A disk is a disk, e. g. /dev/ad0.

A slice is a "DOS primary partition" on the disk, e. g. /dev/ad0s1.

A partition is a subdivision of a slice, e. g. /dev/ad0s1a.

Partitions can be used without a slice that encloses them,
e. g. /dev/ad0a; this is called "dedicated mode" (because
some obscure operating systems may have problems accessing
something they cannot even understand).

Tools like dump and restore operate on partitions.

Tools like dd operate on everything.



> However, I dumped /  on the source machine, and restored on /mnt/tmp
> on the source machine.

I assume you did dump and restore via network?

Like this?
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_tt_dump_tt_via_ssh

Or this?
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_copying_filesystems

Or did you have both disks in the same machine and transfer
from one disk to the other?

Anyway, if you have already reliably (!) confirmed that all
data is in the location they are supposed to be, your
copying procedure should have been fine.



> >> However, when I boot I get to BTX loader (so I guess boot0 and boot2
> >> is correct), that can't load kernel nor kernel.old. see attached
> >> img1.png .
> >
> > Images cannot be attached to list messages. :-(
> >
> 
> Oh, I see. It essentilally says something like:
> 
> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
> Console: internal video/keyboard
> BIOS drive A: is disk0
> BIOS drive C: is disk1
> BIOS 638kB/1046464kB available memory
> 
> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8
> (root@builder.freebsdmall.com, Wed Oct 9 12:33:26 GMT 2002)
> \
> Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
> Booting [kernel]
> can't load 'kernel'
> can't load 'kernel.old'
> 
> Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
> ok ls
> open '/' failed: no such file or directory
> ok

Did you try "echo *" and "echo /boot/*" (and related important
directories) to make sure? Note that the "*" is _required_ in
this specific case.




> >> I can't ls, as the loader says there is no such file or
> >> directory (also seen in img1.png).
> >
> > You can use "echo *" in the loader stage, if I remember
> > correctly. Enter "?" for a list of the available loader
> > commands (or was it "help"?).
> >
> echo * just prints a pretty asterisk :)

I'm not sure if this is really the proper command at the "ok"
prompt (which is the state prior to loading the kernel); I
could shutdown my machine to check...

As I'm not very often sitting at the "low level prompts",
"Ok" and "boot:", I'm not really sure.



> It was more or less that way I did id,  the difference were that I
> mounted /usr under /, and not unmount each partition every time.

That's not required as long as your CWD within the hierarchy
for restoring is correct, and the mountpoints you want to
restore to are correctly accessible. For example, if you
missed to mount /mnt/usr to (let's say) /dev/ad1s1e (the
partition that would be /usr soon), stuff would go to the
wrong place.

Did you transfer a multi-partition system (typically /, /var,
/tmp, /usr and /home) or do you have everything in one big /
partition?



> I'm
> rerunning as the first document says that I should do (ie unmount the
> partition that I've just dumped and restored). I've  justed tested to
> do as described in the document, with the very same result.

You should not mount the partition you _dump from_ (even
though it's possible); only the partition you _restore to_
has to be (!) mounted. It doesn't basically matter _where_
it is mounted. As you could already locate the data at the
correct places, we can assume that you did everything correct.

To be sure, you could fsck the destination disks's partitions.
Make sure they are not mounted. That should be no problem from
a FreeSBIE disc (which I also consider a very good tool).



> Yeah, that's my guess as well. Maybe I should do the minimal install
> of the FreeBSD image first, boot into  a live mode and then restore
> everything upon the disks?

As a lazyness graduate, this is what I do (when I don't have
a scripted solution, e. g. for only _one_ use). :-)

Make sure you have set all the required boot code (fdisk and
bsdlabel), for example with the target disk already being in
its desired position. Note that you can add labels to avoid
trouble with device names.

Examples here:
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_old_standard_way_tt_fdisk_8_tt_and_tt_bsdlabel_8_tt

And in The FreeBSD Handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html



> That would keep any boot flags on the disks
> right. But the thing that is annoying is that the loader can't browse
> the content of the disk. I guess that's the main issue here.

If you can use "lsdev" to properly identify your desired
boot device, you could try to directly boot the kernel:

	boot /dev/disk0s1a/boot/kernel/kernel

(if disk0s1a is the / partition of your installation).

That is what rootdev= should be set to in /boot/loader.conf,
if not the default.

You can find more information in The FreeBSD Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html

And of course: "man 8 boot" as well as "man 8 loader" which
indicates that "ls" is the correct command, not "echo *" (which
must therefor be a correct command somewhere else). :-)


-- 
Polytropon
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:18:02 -0600, Warren Block wrote:

> I also find portsnap slower than either
> csup or svn.

That surprises me. Once the initial download and extract is done, I find 
"portsnap fetch update" to be miles faster than csup. However, each to 
his own, I suppose.


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day, September 19, 2012 1:53 AM=0ASubject: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot=
 with iSCSI?=0A=0AI was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if=
 I could get a system booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from m=
y FreeNAS box.=0A=0AI got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live=
 CD, created a /tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, co=
nnected to the target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and jus=
t a single / volume using remianing space.=A0 Copied the bootcode, created =
the file system, extracted the system etc.=A0 Created a loader.conf file, a=
dded the iscsi_initiator_load=3D"YES" option, copied my /tmp/iscsi.conf fil=
e to the new file system at /etc/iscsi.conf created a /etc/fstab file using=
 the gpart labels to mount / and swap partitions.=0A=0ABooted the system fr=
om the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration options, connected to the =
iscsi volume, and booted from it.=A0 It does launch the bootcode, as expect=
ed, and then breaks failing to mount root.=0A=0AWhoch I actually expected, =
I have proved I can install to an iSCSI volume, I can connect to that iSCSI=
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Interesting project you've got there. I can't say mine is similar but I do =
have a machine which I'm using as a router which boots disklessly. Running =
8.3-STABLE amd64, in fact I just rebuilt the world on both the server which=
 serves this puppy it's OS and the /diskless partition where this puppy get=
's it's boot up from. Booting by pxe is not an easy thing to do. The docs a=
re terrible and out of synch with the latest versions of the OS. I think th=
ere may have been some improvments on that end but it's still kind of a sea=
t of the pants operation. I had several contacts in #FreeBSD on FreeNode wh=
o told me they had many diskless servers running yet when pressed for how t=
hey did it the answers they gave were vague and ambiguous, that is if they =
answered at all. I did finally find a site which explained most of it in an=
 almost clear manner, but even that site was filled with typos and out of d=
ate information. The router I've built is great...no disks at all
 and until the reboot a few weeks ago it had been running 24/7 for 276 days=
...without one failure. We watch lots of NetFlix movies here, sometimes two=
 or three at a time with my teenage kids here with their laptops. And I can=
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	I just discovered a knowledge deficiency on my part that
I can't seem to resolve.

	If one writes a loop of the following form:

#!/usr/local/bin/bash 
ls -LF |grep \/ >/tmp/files
while read dirname; do
cd $dirname
#Do whatever commands to be repeated in each directory.
done < /tmp/files

	This works quite well but it is shall we say sloppy
because it creates a file that then must be cleaned up and its
name needs to be made unique, etc.

	The standard output of the `ls -LF |grep \/` command
needs to look like a file and all should be well. I thought the
< redirection would pickup the standard output.

Thanks for ideas.

Martin McCormick

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:03:11 -0500 Martin McCormick wrote:
> #!/usr/local/bin/bash=20
> ls -LF |grep \/ >/tmp/files
> while read dirname; do
> cd $dirname
> #Do whatever commands to be repeated in each directory.
> done < /tmp/files
>=20

How about:

   ls -LF | grep \/ | while read dirname; do
   cd $dirname
   # do stuff
   done

or:

   find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | while read dirname; do
   cd $dirname
   # do stuff
   done

or even:

   find . -maxdepth 1 -type d ! -name ".*" | while read dirname; do
   cd $dirname
   # do stuff
   done

--=20
Mihai Don=C8=9Bu

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:03:11 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> 	I just discovered a knowledge deficiency on my part that
> I can't seem to resolve.
> 
> 	If one writes a loop of the following form:
> 
> #!/usr/local/bin/bash 

Just a sidenote: If you're not using bash-specific functionality
and intend to make your script portable, use #!/bin/sh instead.



> ls -LF |grep \/ >/tmp/files
> while read dirname; do

Attention: "dirname" (/usr/bin/dirname) is a binary!



> cd $dirname
> #Do whatever commands to be repeated in each directory.
> done < /tmp/files
> 
> 	This works quite well but it is shall we say sloppy
> because it creates a file that then must be cleaned up and its
> name needs to be made unique, etc.

Correct. You could use different approaches which may or may
not fail due to the directory names you will encounter (like
directories with spaces or special characters).

	#!/bin/sh
	for DIR in `ls -LF | grep \/`; do
		cd ${DIR}
		# do stuff
	done

Or you can use piping:

	#!/bin/sh
	ls -LF | grep \/ | while read DIR; do
		cd ${DIR}
		# do stuff
	done

I'm quite confident there are even more elegant and fault-
tolerant solutions. You would maybe have to tweak the ls
command or play with IFS (space or newline).



> 	The standard output of the `ls -LF |grep \/` command
> needs to look like a file and all should be well. I thought the
> < redirection would pickup the standard output.

No, the > and < redirections basically operate on files,
while pipes redirect strandard output to standard input.
So for example,
	
	somecommand < /tmp/somefile

refers to a file that has to exist, while

	somecommand < `someothercommand`

does not take someothercommand's output (stdout), but instead
interprets it as a file specification and then reads from that
files (if existing).




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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On 19/09/2012 23:59, Polytropon wrote:
> The terminology is simple and as follows:
>=20
> A disk is a disk, e. g. /dev/ad0.
>=20
> A slice is a "DOS primary partition" on the disk, e. g. /dev/ad0s1.
>=20
> A partition is a subdivision of a slice, e. g. /dev/ad0s1a.
>=20
> Partitions can be used without a slice that encloses them,
> e. g. /dev/ad0a; this is called "dedicated mode" (because
> some obscure operating systems may have problems accessing
> something they cannot even understand).
>=20
> Tools like dump and restore operate on partitions.
>=20
> Tools like dd operate on everything.

What Polytropon says is perfectly correct, and accurate for setups using
MBR, fdisk(8) and bsdlabel(8).  However nowadays, the move is towards
using gpart(8) and the terminology is different there.  It looks like thi=
s:

% gpart show -p da0
=3D>       34  134217661    da0  GPT  (64G)
         34        128  da0p1  freebsd-boot  (64k)
        162    4194304  da0p2  freebsd-swap  (2.0G)
    4194466  130023229  da0p3  freebsd-zfs  (62G)

'da0' is the disk -- this is from a VM emulating a SAS controller, hence
'da' as the disk device.  That's not gpart specific, and you'll also
commonly see 'ad' or 'ada' for disk devices, plus some others specific
to certain hardware RAID controllers.

The disk has three partitions: da0p1, p2 and p3 of the indicated types.
There's also a freebsd-ufs type for those that don't want ZFS.

That's really all there is to it for all practical purposes.  There's no
need for 'partitions inside slices' or 'logical partitions' or any of
that malarkey.  I believe you could create partitions inside partitions
recursively to your heart's content but never cared enough to try that
out -- I think the device names would come out like 'da0p3p1' but I
could be wrong.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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> ***** PLEASE RERUN FSCK *****

> > Script done on Wed Sep 19 04:17:27 2012


> > Would this indicate a software bug, or is my Western Digital Caviar Green
> > 3 TB hard drive failing?

>         Either something was referencing sectors off the end of the disc,
> or the drive is failing. I'd be inclined to copy the data off somewhere
> safe and subject the disc to extensive tests with smartctl from
> smartmontools, then if it passes recreate the fileystem(s) and restore the
> data.

> Steve O'Hara-Smith <ateve@sohara.org>

I went looking to see if there was something more powerful than fsck in the ports tree, category sysutils, but didn't find anything.

I wonder why NetBSD fsck was able to revive the partition when FreeBSD fsck got stuck in a loop, though I easily got out of said loop by not re-rerunning fsck.
Maybe NetBSD fsck was better than FreeBSD fsck for repairing NetBSD mischief?

It might be good to build, from ports, not only smartmontools but also subversion, on my backup 8 GB FreeBSD USB stick.

I might also want to rerun "cvs up -dP" on the NetBSD pkgsrc and system-source directories before using again, hoping to retrieve anything that might have been lost. 

> > Script started on Wed Sep 19 04:15:02 2012
> > fsck_ffs /dev/ada0p9

> just to make sure: the partition was not mounted when you started fsck?

> > Now I wonder if the file system is really fixed, with possibly some
> > files in /pkgsrc subdirectories lost, or if the hard drive is
> > starting to fail.

> You see it soon. I would not bother about a single problem like this. I
> have had it over and over again at a location with bad power supply
> with a normal PC without UPS.

> The hard disk is - one year later - still working in a different
> location without any new problems.

> Erich

I remembered not to run fsck on a mounted partition.

When I booted into NetBSD, I mounted the partition, /dev/dk6, and found it didn't look trashed, though there was a warning regarding the dirty flag.

Then I umounted before running fsck_ffs, successfully.

It was not a power problem, I have Opti-UPS.

NetBSD crashed a few times with the partition in question mounted.

Starting X and exiting X are high-crash-risk in NetBSD.

Maybe using the same partition by both FreeBSD and NetBSD induces file system errors?  Or maybe it's the NetBSD system crash.

I could be sure to not have any partition on 3 TB hard disk mounted unnecessarily when running NetBSD: umount when finished and before running X.



Tom

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On 09/20/2012 04:29, Polytropon wrote:
> Correct. You could use different approaches which may or may
> not fail due to the directory names you will encounter (like
> directories with spaces or special characters).
>
> 	#!/bin/sh
> 	for DIR in `ls -LF | grep \/`; do
> 		cd ${DIR}
> 		# do stuff
> 	done
>
> Or you can use piping:
>
> 	#!/bin/sh
> 	ls -LF | grep \/ | while read DIR; do
> 		cd ${DIR}
> 		# do stuff
> 	done
>
> I'm quite confident there are even more elegant and fault-
> tolerant solutions. You would maybe have to tweak the ls
> command or play with IFS (space or newline).

Even if you start quoting "${DIR}", the first one will fail at least for 
names containing spaces, the second one at least for names starting with 
spaces. As you said, you would have to change IFS to maybe slash and 
newline, assuming that you do not have names containing newlines, in 
which case the approach cannot work.

I understand that you want all directories and links to directories not 
starting with a period. How about trying all files not starting with a 
period and skipping the non directories:

#!/bin/sh
for DIR in *
do
     cd "$DIR" >/dev/null 2>&1 || continue
     pwd
     cd - > /dev/null
done

This one works with names containing spaces or even newlines and does 
not even need to spawn external commands or subshells. It may have other 
caveats, though.

Cheers,
Jan Henrik

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thank you every body for your answers. i understand that my garphic
card is NVIDIA not intel therefore i installed nvidia driver from
port. now it seems that everything is ok. there is no error in
Xorg.log file and when i run startx command, no errors occurred. but
when i restart my system,i don't have desktop yet.

i don't know what to do and search for what, because there is no error.
please tell me if you have any idea about it.

thanks

On 9/19/12, Bernt Hansson <bah@bananmonarki.se> wrote:
> 2012-09-19 07:23, saeedeh motlagh skrev:
>> thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and
>> displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have
>> desktop yet.
>> you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too.
>>
>> please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my
>> problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore.
>>
>> thanks
>
> Try this;
>
> cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers && make rmconfig
>
> Then when you run make double check you do not have fbdev marked.
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of saeedeh =
motlagh
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:49 AM
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Cc: Stephan Schindel; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: have desktop on freebsd

thank you every body for your answers. i understand that my garphic card =
is NVIDIA not intel therefore i installed nvidia driver from port. now =
it seems that everything is ok. there is no error in Xorg.log file and =
when i run startx command, no errors occurred. but when i restart my =
system,i don't have desktop yet.

i don't know what to do and search for what, because there is no error.
please tell me if you have any idea about it.

Thanks

-------------------------------------------------

Are you saying that X doesn=E2=80=99t work after reboot or are you =
saying that X doesn=E2=80=99t automatically launch after reboot?

If it=E2=80=99s the latter, you need to enable it, either by turning =
tty8 on or by adding line to startup config.



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Many thanks! The for loop was what was needed.

Polytropon writes:
> Just a sidenote: If you're not using bash-specific functionality
> and intend to make your script portable, use #!/bin/sh instead.

I always start out that way for that very reason. I needed some
random number functions and arithmetic for another part of the
script so I ended up going to bash.

> > while read dirname; do
> 
> Attention: "dirname" (/usr/bin/dirname) is a binary!

You are so correct!  Thank you.

Continuing;

> Correct. You could use different approaches which may or may
> not fail due to the directory names you will encounter (like
> directories with spaces or special characters).

In this application, all the directories will be
non-problematic, but point well taken.

> 
>         #!/bin/sh
>         for DIR in `ls -LF | grep \/`; do
>                 cd ${DIR}
>                 # do stuff
>         done

That works perfectly. Again many thanks.

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Pcbsd is always an option.
On Sep 20, 2012 2:50 AM, "saeedeh motlagh" <saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com>
wrote:

> thank you every body for your answers. i understand that my garphic
> card is NVIDIA not intel therefore i installed nvidia driver from
> port. now it seems that everything is ok. there is no error in
> Xorg.log file and when i run startx command, no errors occurred. but
> when i restart my system,i don't have desktop yet.
>
> i don't know what to do and search for what, because there is no error.
> please tell me if you have any idea about it.
>
> thanks
>
> On 9/19/12, Bernt Hansson <bah@bananmonarki.se> wrote:
> > 2012-09-19 07:23, saeedeh motlagh skrev:
> >> thanks Bernt, i deinstall it and then try startx. startx works and
> >> displays graphical page. but when i restart me system i do not have
> >> desktop yet.
> >> you know, startx displays graphical page when fbdev is installed too.
> >>
> >> please let me know if you have any idea or hint that can solved my
> >> problem becuase i don't have any idea anymore.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >
> > Try this;
> >
> > cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers && make rmconfig
> >
> > Then when you run make double check you do not have fbdev marked.
> >
> >
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On 19/09/2012 06:53, dweimer wrote:
> I was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if I could get
> a system booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from my
> FreeNAS box.
>
> I got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live CD, created a
> /tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, connected to
> the target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and just a
> single / volume using remianing space.  Copied the bootcode, created
> the file system, extracted the system etc.  Created a loader.conf
> file, added the iscsi_initiator_load="YES" option, copied my
> /tmp/iscsi.conf file to the new file system at /etc/iscsi.conf created
> a /etc/fstab file using the gpart labels to mount / and swap partitions.
>
> Booted the system from the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration
> options, connected to the iscsi volume, and booted from it.  It does
> launch the bootcode, as expected, and then breaks failing to mount root.
>
> Whoch I actually expected, I have proved I can install to an iSCSI
> volume, I can connect to that iSCSI volume prior to loading the
> kernel, and load the kernel from it.
>
> What I can't seem to find any information on is how to mount iSCSI
> volumes at boot on FreeBSD, so that the kernel can mount the root
> partition.  Does anyone have any idea how to do this, or if its even
> possible?
>
Sounds like you need this
http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/iSCSI-boot-driver-0-2-5-isboot-ko-has-been-released-td5736301.html


Vince

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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:16:40 +0200, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:
> On 09/20/2012 04:29, Polytropon wrote:
> > Correct. You could use different approaches which may or may
> > not fail due to the directory names you will encounter (like
> > directories with spaces or special characters).
> >
> > 	#!/bin/sh
> > 	for DIR in `ls -LF | grep \/`; do
> > 		cd ${DIR}
> > 		# do stuff
> > 	done
> >
> > Or you can use piping:
> >
> > 	#!/bin/sh
> > 	ls -LF | grep \/ | while read DIR; do
> > 		cd ${DIR}
> > 		# do stuff
> > 	done
> >
> > I'm quite confident there are even more elegant and fault-
> > tolerant solutions. You would maybe have to tweak the ls
> > command or play with IFS (space or newline).
> 
> Even if you start quoting "${DIR}", the first one will fail at least for 
> names containing spaces, the second one at least for names starting with 
> spaces. As you said, you would have to change IFS to maybe slash and 
> newline, assuming that you do not have names containing newlines, in 
> which case the approach cannot work.

You are fully correct: In order to create an iterator that
provides "valid" directory names, even for the cases where
"unusual" characters (which are _valid_ characters for file
names and directory names) are included, is not trivial.

Allow me to point to those two articles which mention different
approaches and show why they are wrong. :-)

David A. Wheeler:
Filenames and Pathnames in Shell: How to do it correctly
http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/filenames-in-shell.html

David A. Wheeler:
Fixing Unix/Linux/POSIX Filenames:
Control Characters (such as Newline), Leading Dashes, and Other Problems
http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html



> I understand that you want all directories and links to directories not 
> starting with a period. How about trying all files not starting with a 
> period and skipping the non directories:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> for DIR in *
> do
>      cd "$DIR" >/dev/null 2>&1 || continue
>      pwd
>      cd - > /dev/null
> done
> 
> This one works with names containing spaces or even newlines and does 
> not even need to spawn external commands or subshells. It may have other 
> caveats, though.

It will work - it delegates resolving * to the shell instead
of having a different program (ls | grep, find) doing that.





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Hi,

I'm using a ZFS mirror, and had a disc fail. I had a spare unused disc
in the case, and just switched over to that, after partitioning it
with gpart. ZFS is great, just have to say that.

But I'm not sure about the correct way to bring the new swap partition
online. Do I use gmirror label, as I did when I created it? Or gmirror
insert?  Or something else. I'm using the round-robin balancing
algorithm, if that matters.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Scott
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Scott Ballantyne <sdb@ssr.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using a ZFS mirror, and had a disc fail. I had a spare unused disc
> in the case, and just switched over to that, after partitioning it
> with gpart. ZFS is great, just have to say that.
>
> But I'm not sure about the correct way to bring the new swap partition
> online. Do I use gmirror label, as I did when I created it? Or gmirror
> insert?  Or something else. I'm using the round-robin balancing
> algorithm, if that matters.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Scott
>
>
The handbook or man page on gmirror cover this exact scenario.

-- 
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Finally.  Turns out I had done something really dumb;
the problem had nothing to do with screen blanking or X.

Because I send and receive mail via another server, 
I had disabled sending mail in rc.conf.
  don't do dat.
I wasn't getting the system messages targeted at root,
and eventually /var/spool/mqueue filled up.
With /var full, things don't work too well.
I didn't know /var was full because I wasn't getting the messages...
bad administrator.  bad! bad!  don't do dat ever again!

Gary

On 08/21/12 21:28, Gary Aitken wrote:
> Aargh...
> So my 9.0 RELEASE system no longer totally hangs when sitting idle...
> it seems to run quite a bit longer, waking up from screen blanking in general
> even after long (overnight) periods of sitting idle.  However, not always.
> 
> X (screen was allowed to blank after 10 min, I'm testing w/ that off now.)
> blanked the screen.
> I come back after a few hrs of the system doing nothing (leaving a lot of stuff open, esp in firefox) and the screen is blank (expected) but doesn't wake up.
> 
> I can ping from another machine, but not rlogin (no response).
> That seems weird.
> /var/log/messages shows no activity around attempted rlogin time
> Previously, before I turned off memory hole mapping in bios,
> it would go totally dead, but now it's clearly breathing.
> Power switch doesn't do a soft reboot,
> but I haven't tested it independently to see if it works at all.
> Will do that on next reboot.
> 
> Question:
> 
> If one does <ctl><alt>D to get out of X,
> how does that affect things?
> i.e. Since there is no active X display,
> what happens if a process tries to repaint?
> Does this effectively take display hardware out of the picture
> for troubleshooting?
> 
> Output from "last":
> 
> garya      pts/5    nightmare              Tue Aug 21 18:26 - 18:26  (00:00)
> garya      pts/3    :0                     Tue Aug 21 17:12   still logged in
> garya      pts/2    :0                     Tue Aug 21 17:12   still logged in
> garya      pts/0    :0                     Tue Aug 21 17:12   still logged in
> garya      pts/1    :0                     Tue Aug 21 17:12   still logged in
> garya      pts/4    :0                     Tue Aug 21 17:12   still logged in
> garya      ttyv0                           Tue Aug 21 17:08   still logged in
> boot time                                  Tue Aug 21 17:06
> garya      pts/3    :0                     Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22)
> garya      pts/4    :0                     Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22)
> garya      pts/2    :0                     Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22)
> garya      pts/1    :0                     Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22)
> garya      pts/0    :0                     Sun Aug 19 15:44 - crash (2+01:22)
> root       ttyv4                           Sun Aug 19 15:42 - crash (2+01:23)
> garya      pts/4    :0                     Sun Aug 19 15:15 - 15:41  (00:25)
> 
> I discovered the system was hung and rebooted around Aug 21 17:06.
> Why is no crash recorded on Aug 21?
>    The system was working (behaving normally) until at least ~ Aug 21 15:00
>    Since I could ping it around Aug 21 17:00,
>    but then did a forced power down in order to reboot,
>    shouldn't that show as a crash or something?
> Why is there no boot recorded soon after Aug 19 15:44?  (I did reboot)
> Why does the first entry for garya after boot show still logged in?
>    Is this because the records are based on the utx.log file,
>    and the system crashed, so it looks like I'm still logged in?
> 
> /var/log/cron shows:
> 
> Aug 21 13:11:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10699]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy)
> Aug 21 13:15:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10717]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
> Aug 21 13:20:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10719]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
> Aug 21 13:22:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10721]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy)
> Aug 21 13:25:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[10733]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
> Aug 21 17:10:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[1878]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun)
> Aug 21 17:11:00 breakaway /usr/sbin/cron[1882]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy)
> 
> So it appears the system went south around Aug 21 13:25
> 
> Anything else I should look at for hints?
> Any suggestions for how to narrow this down further other than:
>    disabling X screen blanking
>    <ctl><alt>D to get out of X prior to leaving machine idle
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> 
> gary
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On 20 September 2012 00:59, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:22:20 +0200, Fritiof Hedman wrote:
>> On 19 September 2012 23:37, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:28:30 +0200, Fritiof Hedman wrote:
>> >> Hi list!
>> >>
>> >> I must warn you, I'm quite new to FreeBSD (I'm mostly using Linux
>> >> otherwise). I have inherited an old (yes, very old) BSD 4.7 machine on
>> >> my work that I need to clone. I've setuped an identical copy of the
>> >> slices on the target machine, ran dump the source machine and restore
>> >> on the target machine, edited /etc/fstab to match the filesystems. I'm
>> >> also running the GENERIC-kernel, I've done this using the FreeSBIE
>> >> live CD.
>> >
>> > What procedure did you use to clone? There basically is
>> > the "one" way, using dump + restore on partitions (not
>> > slices!), or dd on either partitions, slices, or the
>> > whole disk.
>> >
>>
>> I maybe not so sure about the nomenclature that is used in FreeBSD.
>
> The terminology is simple and as follows:
>
> A disk is a disk, e. g. /dev/ad0.
>
> A slice is a "DOS primary partition" on the disk, e. g. /dev/ad0s1.
>
> A partition is a subdivision of a slice, e. g. /dev/ad0s1a.
>
> Partitions can be used without a slice that encloses them,
> e. g. /dev/ad0a; this is called "dedicated mode" (because
> some obscure operating systems may have problems accessing
> something they cannot even understand).
>
> Tools like dump and restore operate on partitions.
>
> Tools like dd operate on everything.

Thanks for the clarification!

>
>
>
>> However, I dumped /  on the source machine, and restored on /mnt/tmp
>> on the source machine.
>
> I assume you did dump and restore via network?
>
> Like this?
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_tt_dump_tt_via_ssh
>
> Or this?
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html#_copying_filesystems

A combination of those...

dump -C16 -b64 -0uan -h0 -f - /    |  ssh -c blowfish user@otherhost
(cd /tmp && restore -ruf -)


>
> Or did you have both disks in the same machine and transfer
> from one disk to the other?
>
> Anyway, if you have already reliably (!) confirmed that all
> data is in the location they are supposed to be, your
> copying procedure should have been fine.
>
>
>
>> >> However, when I boot I get to BTX loader (so I guess boot0 and boot2
>> >> is correct), that can't load kernel nor kernel.old. see attached
>> >> img1.png .
>> >
>> > Images cannot be attached to list messages. :-(
>> >
>>
>> Oh, I see. It essentilally says something like:
>>
>> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
>> Console: internal video/keyboard
>> BIOS drive A: is disk0
>> BIOS drive C: is disk1
>> BIOS 638kB/1046464kB available memory
>>
>> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8
>> (root@builder.freebsdmall.com, Wed Oct 9 12:33:26 GMT 2002)
>> \
>> Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
>> Booting [kernel]
>> can't load 'kernel'
>> can't load 'kernel.old'
>>
>> Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
>> ok ls
>> open '/' failed: no such file or directory
>> ok
>
> Did you try "echo *" and "echo /boot/*" (and related important
> directories) to make sure? Note that the "*" is _required_ in
> this specific case.
>

As you saw, the prompt just returns *.

>
>
>
>> >> I can't ls, as the loader says there is no such file or
>> >> directory (also seen in img1.png).
>> >
>> > You can use "echo *" in the loader stage, if I remember
>> > correctly. Enter "?" for a list of the available loader
>> > commands (or was it "help"?).
>> >
>> echo * just prints a pretty asterisk :)
>
> I'm not sure if this is really the proper command at the "ok"
> prompt (which is the state prior to loading the kernel); I
> could shutdown my machine to check...
>
> As I'm not very often sitting at the "low level prompts",
> "Ok" and "boot:", I'm not really sure.
>
>
>
>> It was more or less that way I did id,  the difference were that I
>> mounted /usr under /, and not unmount each partition every time.
>
> That's not required as long as your CWD within the hierarchy
> for restoring is correct, and the mountpoints you want to
> restore to are correctly accessible. For example, if you
> missed to mount /mnt/usr to (let's say) /dev/ad1s1e (the
> partition that would be /usr soon), stuff would go to the
> wrong place.
>
Everything got to the new place, so that should not be the problem.
> Did you transfer a multi-partition system (typically /, /var,
> /tmp, /usr and /home) or do you have everything in one big /
> partition?

Multi-partiton system

>
>
>> I'm
>> rerunning as the first document says that I should do (ie unmount the
>> partition that I've just dumped and restored). I've  justed tested to
>> do as described in the document, with the very same result.
>
> You should not mount the partition you _dump from_ (even
> though it's possible); only the partition you _restore to_
> has to be (!) mounted. It doesn't basically matter _where_
> it is mounted. As you could already locate the data at the
> correct places, we can assume that you did everything correct.
>
> To be sure, you could fsck the destination disks's partitions.
> Make sure they are not mounted. That should be no problem from
> a FreeSBIE disc (which I also consider a very good tool).
>
>
>
>> Yeah, that's my guess as well. Maybe I should do the minimal install
>> of the FreeBSD image first, boot into  a live mode and then restore
>> everything upon the disks?
>
> As a lazyness graduate, this is what I do (when I don't have
> a scripted solution, e. g. for only _one_ use). :-)
>
> Make sure you have set all the required boot code (fdisk and
> bsdlabel), for example with the target disk already being in
> its desired position. Note that you can add labels to avoid
> trouble with device names.
>
> Examples here:
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_old_standard_way_tt_fdisk_8_tt_and_tt_bsdlabel_8_tt
>
> And in The FreeBSD Handbook:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html
>
>
>
>> That would keep any boot flags on the disks
>> right. But the thing that is annoying is that the loader can't browse
>> the content of the disk. I guess that's the main issue here.
>
> If you can use "lsdev" to properly identify your desired
> boot device, you could try to directly boot the kernel:
>
>         boot /dev/disk0s1a/boot/kernel/kernel
>
> (if disk0s1a is the / partition of your installation).

That doesn't work either
>
> That is what rootdev= should be set to in /boot/loader.conf,
> if not the default.
>
> You can find more information in The FreeBSD Handbook:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html
>
> And of course: "man 8 boot" as well as "man 8 loader" which
> indicates that "ls" is the correct command, not "echo *" (which
> must therefor be a correct command somewhere else). :-)
>

HOWEVER, It seems that FreeSBIE is the thing that makes things up. It
seems that FreeSBIE uses somewhat newer versions of something about
the fs that the old machine can't read.

I installed the very mini thing from the FreeBSD 4.7 CD, and then
restored every partition again.
On boot the system complains about the other partitions that is NOT
set as newfs by the installer. I made a newfs, restored those
partitions again and then it worked. Note that this is on my virtual
system, I'm going to test at work tomorrow.

And yes, the complaint was that the vas a bad magic number on the
super block on each partition.

Thank you very much for your time!

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On 2012-09-20 09:42, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
> On 19/09/2012 06:53, dweimer wrote:
>> I was just trying some proof of concept testing to see if I could 
>> get
>> a system booting with no local disk using iSCSI running from my
>> FreeNAS box.
>>
>> I got started, by first booting a 9.1-RC1 CD, into live CD, created 
>> a
>> /tmp/iscsi.conf used kldload to load the iscsi initiator, connected 
>> to
>> the target, created a gpt boot partition, swap partition and just a
>> single / volume using remianing space.  Copied the bootcode, created
>> the file system, extracted the system etc.  Created a loader.conf
>> file, added the iscsi_initiator_load="YES" option, copied my
>> /tmp/iscsi.conf file to the new file system at /etc/iscsi.conf 
>> created
>> a /etc/fstab file using the gpart labels to mount / and swap 
>> partitions.
>>
>> Booted the system from the iPXE.iso, ran the necessary configuration
>> options, connected to the iscsi volume, and booted from it.  It does
>> launch the bootcode, as expected, and then breaks failing to mount 
>> root.
>>
>> Whoch I actually expected, I have proved I can install to an iSCSI
>> volume, I can connect to that iSCSI volume prior to loading the
>> kernel, and load the kernel from it.
>>
>> What I can't seem to find any information on is how to mount iSCSI
>> volumes at boot on FreeBSD, so that the kernel can mount the root
>> partition.  Does anyone have any idea how to do this, or if its even
>> possible?
>>
> Sounds like you need this
> 
> http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/iSCSI-boot-driver-0-2-5-isboot-ko-has-been-released-td5736301.html
>
>
> Vince

That's looking promising, I had actually ran across an earlier version 
of this last night, of course that was all dealing with 8.1.  Will 
definitely do more looking into it, however it doesn't seem to be at a 
point I would consider running anything more than a test environment 
from it.

My actual goal with this project if the proof of concept panned out was 
to replace the old aging internal SATA Mirrored drives in my Home 
web/email server (They are showing a decent number of smart pre-fail 
indicators, but still working for now).  I have fairly new SATA drives 
in my FreeNAS box, and thought maybe since my Gig network is barely 
being taxed, that I could save some cash for new disk drives, to be put 
towards future upgrades to the FreeNAS box instead.

However I am not ruling out the possibility altogether yet, and am 
going to run some tests with booting from a very minimal set of required 
files on a USB thumb Drive, and mounting everything else from iSCSI.  I 
am already running all my VMware Test Virtual Machines on my workstation 
from an iSCSI volume mounted from my FreeNAS box, and know that it 
performs well enough in my network to handle the small amount of traffic 
to my website and my email without any problems.

-- 
Thanks,
    Dean E. Weimer
    http://www.dweimer.net/

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Hello,

If I need to recompile pfctl and snmp_pf, would I run 'make clean',
'make', and 'make install' in /usr/src/usr.sbin/bsnmpd/modules/snmp_pf
and /usr/src/sbin/pfctl?  Is either of the directories incorrect
or some other combination of make calls required there?

Thank you,
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> Hello,
>
> If I need to recompile pfctl and snmp_pf, would I run 'make clean',
> 'make', and 'make install' in /usr/src/usr.sbin/bsnmpd/modules/snmp_pf
> and /usr/src/sbin/pfctl?  Is either of the directories incorrect
> or some other combination of make calls required there?
>

Oh, forgot to mention.  The machine has been updated to -current, has 
"zpool-features" instead of "28" and with the new boot code.

Mergemaster has been run and I am waiting to reboot until after the pfctl 
modules are updated as mentioned but not described in /usr/src/UPDATING.

Darrel

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Hi all,

I know this is a bit off-topic, but I'm looking for suggestions.

In one of my corporate sites, I've got a Tandberg Magnum 2x24 dual 
10-slot tape backup device that I feel is on its way out.

The storage amount for this site is adequate with the existing device 
and so is the performance, but I'm just curious to find out others 
opinions on what they use for tape backup machines nowadays before I 
purchase something new. I back up between 2 and 4 TB per day at this 
particular site.

Off-list replies if you don't feel comfortable specifying vendors 
publicly are welcome.

Steve

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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Steve Bertrand
<steve.bertrand@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know this is a bit off-topic, but I'm looking for suggestions.
>
> In one of my corporate sites, I've got a Tandberg Magnum 2x24 dual 10-slot
> tape backup device that I feel is on its way out.
>
> The storage amount for this site is adequate with the existing device and so
> is the performance, but I'm just curious to find out others opinions on what
> they use for tape backup machines nowadays before I purchase something new.
> I back up between 2 and 4 TB per day at this particular site.
>
> Off-list replies if you don't feel comfortable specifying vendors publicly
> are welcome.
>
> Steve

We've had good luck with our Spectralogic T50 with DLT3 drives, and
mediocre luck with our Dell 124T with a DLT4 drive that replaced the
Spectralogic. If I had to choose, I'd stick with the Spectralogic..

Kurt

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>> I have a problem with various parts of web pages stopping
>> before getting completely downloaded. Links has a useful retries
>> setting (setup->network options->retries) which seems to fix
>> this. I need a similar fix for firefox 3.6.2

> Firefox 15
> URL: about:config
> search: retry
> network.http.connection-retry-timeout;250

3.6.2 doesn't have network.http.connection-retry-timeout,
but I found network.http.max-connections and friends,
reducing those should reduce the timeouts. В So far so good.

I would have never guessed to type "about:config" as a URL.
Very useful to know. В Thank you.

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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:52:27 -0400, Dieter BSD wrote:
> I would have never guessed to type "about:config" as a URL.
> Very useful to know. =A0Thank you.

Allow me a sidenote: This also works in Opera and provides
access to configuration and functionality that has no usable
GUI equivalent.



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Hello-

I'm having troubling installing apcupsd 3.4.10 on a FreeBSD 9.0 machine. Th=
is is what I get:

aries# pwd
/usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd
aries# make install clean
=3D=3D=3D>  Building for apcupsd-3.14.10
        src
        src/lib
        src/drivers
        src/drivers/apcsmart
        src/drivers/dumb
        src/drivers/net
        src/drivers/pcnet
        src/drivers/usb
        src/drivers/usb/generic
        src/libusbhid
  LD    src/apcupsd
/usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd/work/apcupsd-3.14.10/src/lib/libapc.a(astring.o=
): In function `astring::assign(char const*, int)':
astring.cpp:(.text+0xbb): undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigned i=
nt)'
/usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd/work/apcupsd-3.14.10/src/lib/libapc.a(astring.o=
): In function `astring::realloc(unsigned int)':
astring.cpp:(.text+0x23c): undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigned =
int)'
/usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd/work/apcupsd-3.14.10/src/lib/libapc.a(astring.o=
): In function `astring::vformat(char const*, char*)':
astring.cpp:(.text+0x4a5): undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigned =
int)'
gmake[2]: *** [apcupsd] Error 1
gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 2
gmake: *** [src_DIR] Error 2
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd.
aries#


This system was compiled from svn sources. The ARIES kernel conf is as foll=
ows:

aries# less /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ARIES
#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the config(5) manual page,
# and/or the handbook section on Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig=
-config.html
#
< ..snip.. >
#
# $FreeBSD: releng/9.0/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC 227305 2011-11-07 13:40:54Z ma=
rius $

include         GENERIC
nocpu           I486_CPU
nocpu           I586_CPU
ident           ARIES

options         KVA_PAGES=3D512   # increase system memory usage from 1GB t=
o 2GB for ZFS usage

nodevice        eisa
nodevice        fdc    =20


Contents of make.conf:

aries# less /etc/make.conf
# added by DSS 2/23/09
#.if $(.CURDIR:M*/sysutils/bacula-client) || \
#    $(.CURDIR:M*/sysutils/bacula-client)
#CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D--enable-static-fd
#.endif

WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes
# added by use.perl 2012-09-21 10:18:17
PERL_VERSION=3D5.14.2

~Doug

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> I'm having troubling installing apcupsd 3.4.10 on a FreeBSD 9.0 machine.
> This is what I get:
>=20
> aries# pwd
> /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd
> aries# make install clean
> =3D=3D=3D>  Building for apcupsd-3.14.10
>         src
>         src/lib
>         src/drivers
>         src/drivers/apcsmart
>         src/drivers/dumb
>         src/drivers/net
>         src/drivers/pcnet
>         src/drivers/usb
>         src/drivers/usb/generic
>         src/libusbhid
>   LD    src/apcupsd
> /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd/work/apcupsd-
> 3.14.10/src/lib/libapc.a(astring.o): In function `astring::assign(char
> const*, int)':
> astring.cpp:(.text+0xbb): undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigned
> int)'
> /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd/work/apcupsd-
> 3.14.10/src/lib/libapc.a(astring.o): In function
> `astring::realloc(unsigned int)':
> astring.cpp:(.text+0x23c): undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigne=
d
> int)'
> /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd/work/apcupsd-
> 3.14.10/src/lib/libapc.a(astring.o): In function `astring::vformat(char
> const*, char*)':
> astring.cpp:(.text+0x4a5): undefined reference to `operator new[](unsigne=
d
> int)'
> gmake[2]: *** [apcupsd] Error 1
> gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 2
> gmake: *** [src_DIR] Error 2
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd.
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd.
> aries#
>=20
>=20
> This system was compiled from svn sources. The ARIES kernel conf is as
> follows:
>=20
> aries# less /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ARIES
> #
> # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
> #
> # For more information on this file, please read the config(5) manual
> page,
> # and/or the handbook section on Kernel Configuration Files:
> #
> #    http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-
> 1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
> #
> < ..snip.. >
> #
> # $FreeBSD: releng/9.0/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC 227305 2011-11-07 13:40:54Z
> marius $
>=20
> include         GENERIC
> nocpu           I486_CPU
> nocpu           I586_CPU
> ident           ARIES
>=20
> options         KVA_PAGES=3D512   # increase system memory usage from 1GB=
 to
> 2GB for ZFS usage
>=20
> nodevice        eisa
> nodevice        fdc
>=20
>=20
> Contents of make.conf:
>=20
> aries# less /etc/make.conf
> # added by DSS 2/23/09
> #.if $(.CURDIR:M*/sysutils/bacula-client) || \
> #    $(.CURDIR:M*/sysutils/bacula-client)
> #CONFIGURE_ARGS+=3D--enable-static-fd
> #.endif
>=20
> WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes
> # added by use.perl 2012-09-21 10:18:17
> PERL_VERSION=3D5.14.2
>=20

I played around with the selecting/deselecting config options and got apcup=
sd to install. Previously I had the following options selected:

aries# make showconfig
=3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for apcupsd-3.=
14.10:
     APCSMART_DRV=3Don: Compile APC SmartUPS serial driver
     APCDUMB_DRV=3Don: Compile dumb UPS driver
     CLIENT_ONLY=3Doff: Only NIS client (no network server or drivers)
     CGI=3Doff: Compile with CGI programms to show status
     PCNET_DRV=3Don: Compile PowerChute Network Shutdown driver
     USB=3Don: Compile with USB Support driver
     SNMP_DRV=3Don: Compile with SNMP driver
     SNMP_DRV_OLD=3Doff: Compile with old SNMP driver
     TCP_WRAPPERS=3Don: Compile with TCP_WRAPPERS support
     TEST_DRV=3Doff: Compile TEST driver
     GAPCMON=3Doff: Build GTK GUI front-end
=3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings
aries#

The install with the above options failed. Next I ran make with the followi=
ng options:

aries# make showconfig
=3D=3D=3D> The following configuration options are available for apcupsd-3.=
14.10:
     APCSMART_DRV=3Don: Compile APC SmartUPS serial driver
     APCDUMB_DRV=3Doff: Compile dumb UPS driver
     CLIENT_ONLY=3Doff: Only NIS client (no network server or drivers)
     CGI=3Doff: Compile with CGI programms to show status
     PCNET_DRV=3Don: Compile PowerChute Network Shutdown driver
     USB=3Doff: Compile with USB Support driver
     SNMP_DRV=3Doff: Compile with SNMP driver
     SNMP_DRV_OLD=3Doff: Compile with old SNMP driver
     TCP_WRAPPERS=3Don: Compile with TCP_WRAPPERS support
     TEST_DRV=3Doff: Compile TEST driver
     GAPCMON=3Doff: Build GTK GUI front-end
=3D=3D=3D> Use 'make config' to modify these settings
aries#

This time make succeeded and I was able to install.

What appears to be missing from my kernel file? Since the UPS is a SmartUPS=
 450SC, I really do not need the USB option. Nor do I need the APCDUMB_DRV =
option. This leaves the SNMP_DRV as a potential culprit. Does the kernel ne=
ed to be compiled with SNMP?

I was able to install apcupsd on other FreeBSD machines. The only differenc=
e is that these other machines are running the RELEASE version kernel inste=
ad of a compiled kernel.

~Doug
=20

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=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0AFrom: Paul Wootton <casper@caspersworl=
d.co.uk>=0ATo: Bill Tillman <btillman99@yahoo.com>=0ACc: =0ASent: Thursday,=
 September 20, 2012 4:08 AM=0ASubject: Re: Anyone Tried to use iPXE to boot=
 with iSCSI?=0A=0AOn 09/20/12 01:42, Bill Tillman wrote:=0A> Interesting pr=
oject you've got there. I can't say mine is similar but I do have a machine=
 which I'm using as a router which boots disklessly. Running 8.3-STABLE amd=
64, in fact I just rebuilt the world on both the server which serves this p=
uppy it's OS and the /diskless partition where this puppy get's it's boot u=
p from. Booting by pxe is not an easy thing to do. The docs are terrible an=
d out of synch with the latest versions of the OS. I think there may have b=
een some improvments on that end but it's still kind of a seat of the pants=
 operation. I had several contacts in #FreeBSD on FreeNode who told me they=
 had many diskless servers running yet when pressed for how they did it the=
 answers they gave were vague and ambiguous, that is if they answered at al=
l. I did finally find a site which explained most of it in an almost clear =
manner, but even that site was filled with typos and out of date informatio=
n. The router I've built is great...no disks at all=0A>=A0  and until the r=
eboot a few weeks ago it had been running 24/7 for 276 days...without one f=
ailure. We watch lots of NetFlix movies here, sometimes two or three at a t=
ime with my teenage kids here with their laptops. And I can still enjoy a q=
uick download or two in my lab while all this bandwidth is being served.=0A=
> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-questions@fre=
ebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd=
-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr=
ibe@freebsd.org"=0A=0AHi Bil,,=0A=0AI am actually looking at doing somethin=
g very similar with my soekris box. Currently it boots from a CF card, but =
the card is getting old and I think it is coming to the end of it's life.=
=0A=0ACan you please shed a little light on what you did?=0A=0A=0ACheers=0A=
Paul=0A=0A=0A=0AThis is the website where I found the best and most accurat=
e information on diskless booting. =0A=0Ahttp://www.nber.org/sys-admin/Free=
BSD-diskless.html=0A=0AThe authors appear to have updated this just a=A0few=
 months ago as well. I had=A0trouble with it until I understood what the=A0=
conf/=A0folders were all about. It's easy for a novice to read this and get=
 confused because the authors assume the reader knows as much about it as t=
hey do or they are=A0just lazy hacks like me and don't want to type all the=
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thanks Sean, no X doesn't work correctly for me.

thanks Brian, but this freebsd box is my develop system and i have to
work with it and no other OS.

thanks Michael, i compiled X11 and Gnome from ports.

I'm thinking to install everything from the beginning if i can not fix
it in two days.

thank you every body for your answers




On 9/22/12, Michael L. Squires <mikes@siralan.org> wrote:
> I've always installed everything from the CD - choosing one of the
> install options that installs the base, sources, X11, Gnome or
> KDE, and then let the install program walk me through the X11 setup.
>
> This installs the startup files correctly for your system.
>
> Did you install the base 8.2 and then install X11 and Gnome from ports, or
> did you compile it from ports?  That procedure hasn't worked for me.
>
> You will need to know what specific video hardware you have so you can
> choose the right video driver.
>
> I've also had problems with video boards which were not yet supported by
> Xorg.
>
> Mike Squires
>
>

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[ saeedeh motlagh wrote on Sat 22.Sep'12 at  9:55:47 +0330 ]

> thanks Sean, no X doesn't work correctly for me.
> 
> thanks Brian, but this freebsd box is my develop system and i have to
> work with it and no other OS.
> 
> thanks Michael, i compiled X11 and Gnome from ports.
> 
> I'm thinking to install everything from the beginning if i can not fix
> it in two days.
> 
> thank you every body for your answers

You proven already that X is supported on your system when you used the Xorg -configure command. You got to the default screen that is shown whenusing that method of testing the X server. You have simply just not used the correct driver or you have not set up your X config file properly. 

Do you really need to have Gnome as well? It is a rather bloated destop and you can have a really good development environment without all of the Gnome components. It is, of course, your choice but, personally I'd go for an X environment that is less hassle.

I found a link for you on google, it might be of some use to you. This person has set up Gnome and provided some examples of configuring the system in a way that could help:

	https://cooltrainer.org/2012/01/02/a-freebsd-9-desktop-how-to/

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Hello.
I'm trying to deploy this:
http://chesar.echa.europa.eu/

I'm using tomcat7 (but tried tomcat6) and JDK 1.6 (that's the only 
allowed version).

When I start Tomcat, I get:
> Sep 22, 2012 11:36:05 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext listenerStart
> SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance of class org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener
> org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean with name 'org.springframework.security.config.http.UserDetailsServiceInjectionBeanPostProcessor#0': BeanPostProcessor before instantiation of bean failed; nested exception is org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean with name 'org.springframework.transaction.config.internalTransactionAdvisor': Cannot resolve reference to bean 'org.springframework.transaction.annotation.AnnotationTransactionAttributeSource#0' while setting bean property 'transactionAttributeSource'; nested exception is org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean with name 'org.springframework.transaction.annotation.AnnotationTransactionAttributeSource#0': Initialization of bean failed; nested exception is java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: warning no match for this type name: substance [Xlint:invalidAbsoluteTypeName]
>         at org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:452)
>         at org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory$1.getObject(AbstractBeanFactory.java:291)
>         at org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultSingletonBeanRegistry.getSingleton(DefaultSingletonBeanRegistry.java:222)
>         at org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.doGetBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:288)
>         at org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:194)
>         at org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.registerBeanPostProcessors(AbstractApplicationContext.java:722)
>         at org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractApplicationContext.java:410)
>         at org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoader.createWebApplicationContext(ContextLoader.java:276)
>         at org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoader.initWebApplicationContext(ContextLoader.java:197)
>         at org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener.contextInitialized(ContextLoaderListener.java:47)
>         at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.listenerStart(StandardContext.java:4790)
>         at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.startInternal(StandardContext.java:5284)
>         at org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleBase.start(LifecycleBase.java:150)
>         at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:899)
>         at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:875)
>         at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:618)
>         at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployWAR(HostConfig.java:963)
>         at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig$DeployWar.run(HostConfig.java:1600)
>         at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:441)
>         at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:303)
>         at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:138)
>         at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:885)
>         at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:907)
>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)

Any hint on this?
Of course they support Red Hat Linux, not FreeBSD, but I though Java and 
Tomcat were Java and Tomcat...

Thanks in advance.

  bye
	av.

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	One quick question:

	I've converted from csup to subversion for ports and docs.
Ports works fine, but for docs, I get messages like:

Skipped 'mn_MN.UTF-8' -- Node remains in conflict

	Deleting the tree and pulling a fresh chackout has not helped.
	Any suggestions?


				Robert Huff


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Hi

This morning at about 7 am, I noticed to commits to stable/9 that I wanted to pull in and so did and then rebuilt from source. 

Just now, I noticed this: svn commit: r240807 - in stable/9/contrib/bind9: . lib/dns lib/dns/include/dns

I really can't be bother to requildworld again, can I just go into /usr/src/contrib/bind9 and make, build, install that bit? It does affect me do I should really update to this commit, up to now i've only rebuilt the entire system from source rather than individual code commits.

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Looking for howto on configuring a
Cisco Linksys AE2500 USB wifi stick.
When I plug it in all I get is the USB msg
"ugen3.2: <Cisco> at usbus3".
FreeBSD handbook does not have section on usb wifi setup.




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On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> wrote:
> Hello.
> I'm trying to deploy this:
> http://chesar.echa.europa.eu/
>
> I'm using tomcat7 (but tried tomcat6) and JDK 1.6 (that's the only allowed
> version).

It actually took some effort for me to get a working java/tomcat
framework.  Which version and architecture  of FreeBSD?

I'm using tomcat-6.0.35 and openjdk6-b24_4, if that helps.

- M
>
> When I start Tomcat, I get:
>>
>> Sep 22, 2012 11:36:05 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>> listenerStart
>> SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance
>> of class org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener
>> org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating
>> bean with name
>> 'org.springframework.security.config.http.UserDetailsServiceInjectionBeanPostProcessor#0':
>> BeanPostProcessor before instantiation of bean failed; nested exception is
>> org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating bean
>> with name
>> 'org.springframework.transaction.config.internalTransactionAdvisor': Cannot
>> resolve reference to bean
>> 'org.springframework.transaction.annotation.AnnotationTransactionAttributeSource#0'
>> while setting bean property 'transactionAttributeSource'; nested exception
>> is org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error creating
>> bean with name
>> 'org.springframework.transaction.annotation.AnnotationTransactionAttributeSource#0':
>> Initialization of bean failed; nested exception is
>> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: warning no match for this type name:
>> substance [Xlint:invalidAbsoluteTypeName]
>>         at
>> org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:452)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory$1.getObject(AbstractBeanFactory.java:291)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultSingletonBeanRegistry.getSingleton(DefaultSingletonBeanRegistry.java:222)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.doGetBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:288)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:194)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.registerBeanPostProcessors(AbstractApplicationContext.java:722)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractApplicationContext.java:410)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoader.createWebApplicationContext(ContextLoader.java:276)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoader.initWebApplicationContext(ContextLoader.java:197)
>>         at
>> org.springframework.web.context.ContextLoaderListener.contextInitialized(ContextLoaderListener.java:47)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.listenerStart(StandardContext.java:4790)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.startInternal(StandardContext.java:5284)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleBase.start(LifecycleBase.java:150)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:899)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:875)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:618)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployWAR(HostConfig.java:963)
>>         at
>> org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig$DeployWar.run(HostConfig.java:1600)
>>         at
>> java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:441)
>>         at
>> java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:303)
>>         at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:138)
>>         at
>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:885)
>>         at
>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:907)
>>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
>
>
> Any hint on this?
> Of course they support Red Hat Linux, not FreeBSD, but I though Java and
> Tomcat were Java and Tomcat...
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>  bye
>         av.
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On 09/22/12 17:04, Michael Sierchio wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> wrote:
>> Hello.
>> I'm trying to deploy this:
>> http://chesar.echa.europa.eu/
>>
>> I'm using tomcat7 (but tried tomcat6) and JDK 1.6 (that's the only allowed
>> version).
>
> It actually took some effort for me to get a working java/tomcat
> framework.

I did this on other occasions; in fact I have at least other 3 Tomcat 
setups working.



> Which version and architecture  of FreeBSD?

8.3/amd64.



> I'm using tomcat-6.0.35 and openjdk6-b24_4, if that helps.

I'll try openjdk either with tomcat6 or 7.

Still I'd like to get some insight on the error I get and what could 
cause it.



  bye & Thanks
	av.

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On 22.09.2012 16:26, Fbsd8 wrote:
> Looking for howto on configuring a
> Cisco Linksys AE2500 USB wifi stick.
> When I plug it in all I get is the USB msg
> "ugen3.2: <Cisco> at usbus3".
> FreeBSD handbook does not have section on usb wifi setup.
>
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Is your USB stick or Chip on hardware list?
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/hardware.html#WLAN
rum and ural driver are for some wifi usb sticks.

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lokadamus@gmx.de wrote:
> On 22.09.2012 16:26, Fbsd8 wrote:
>> Looking for howto on configuring a
>> Cisco Linksys AE2500 USB wifi stick.
>> When I plug it in all I get is the USB msg
>> "ugen3.2: <Cisco> at usbus3".
>> FreeBSD handbook does not have section on usb wifi setup.
>>
>>
>>
> Is your USB stick or Chip on hardware list?
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/hardware.html#WLAN
> rum and ural driver are for some wifi usb sticks.
> 
> 
NO

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Robert Huff <roberthuff <at> rcn.com> writes:

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> 	One quick question:
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> 	I've converted from csup to subversion for ports and docs.
> Ports works fine, but for docs, I get messages like:
> 
> Skipped 'mn_MN.UTF-8' -- Node remains in conflict
> 
> 	Deleting the tree and pulling a fresh chackout has not helped.
> 	Any suggestions?

Change to your top-most working copy dir (the one you obtained with checkout):
$ cd working-copy-dir
$ svn status
If you have done no local edits yet or do not care of loosing them (save it
otherwise), then do the following:
$ svn update --accept theirs-full
$ svn status

Did it help ?
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On 22.09.2012 19:14, Fbsd8 wrote:
> lokadamus@gmx.de wrote:
>> On 22.09.2012 16:26, Fbsd8 wrote:
>>> Looking for howto on configuring a
>>> Cisco Linksys AE2500 USB wifi stick.
>>> When I plug it in all I get is the USB msg
>>> "ugen3.2: <Cisco> at usbus3".
>>> FreeBSD handbook does not have section on usb wifi setup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Is your USB stick or Chip on hardware list?
>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/hardware.html#WLAN
>> rum and ural driver are for some wifi usb sticks.
>>
>>
> NO
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Have you load bwi driver?
it looks like Linksys AE2500 USB use BMC4323 chipset.
https://www.google.de/search?q=Cisco+Linksys+AE2500+chipset

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lokadamus@gmx.de wrote:
> On 22.09.2012 19:14, Fbsd8 wrote:
>> lokadamus@gmx.de wrote:
>>> On 22.09.2012 16:26, Fbsd8 wrote:
>>>> Looking for howto on configuring a
>>>> Cisco Linksys AE2500 USB wifi stick.
>>>> When I plug it in all I get is the USB msg
>>>> "ugen3.2: <Cisco> at usbus3".
>>>> FreeBSD handbook does not have section on usb wifi setup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Is your USB stick or Chip on hardware list?
>>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/hardware.html#WLAN
>>> rum and ural driver are for some wifi usb sticks.
>>>
>>>
>> NO
>>
> Have you load bwi driver?
> it looks like Linksys AE2500 USB use BMC4323 chipset.
> https://www.google.de/search?q=Cisco+Linksys+AE2500+chipset
> 
I am running 9.1-RC1 and have no boot loader.conf for any wifi modules.
Is there some usb.conf file where I can add statement for my USB linksys 
AE2500 wifi stick so the kernel modules will get auto loaded at first 
use time?
If not, what are the boot loader statements I need to add?

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On 22.09.2012 20:59, Fbsd8 wrote:
> lokadamus@gmx.de wrote:
>> On 22.09.2012 19:14, Fbsd8 wrote:
>>> lokadamus@gmx.de wrote:
>>>> On 22.09.2012 16:26, Fbsd8 wrote:
>>>>> Looking for howto on configuring a
>>>>> Cisco Linksys AE2500 USB wifi stick.
>>>>> When I plug it in all I get is the USB msg
>>>>> "ugen3.2: <Cisco> at usbus3".
>>>>> FreeBSD handbook does not have section on usb wifi setup.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Is your USB stick or Chip on hardware list?
>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/hardware.html#WLAN
>>>> rum and ural driver are for some wifi usb sticks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> NO
>>>
>> Have you load bwi driver?
>> it looks like Linksys AE2500 USB use BMC4323 chipset.
>> https://www.google.de/search?q=Cisco+Linksys+AE2500+chipset
>>
> I am running 9.1-RC1 and have no boot loader.conf for any wifi modules.
> Is there some usb.conf file where I can add statement for my USB 
> linksys AE2500 wifi stick so the kernel modules will get auto loaded 
> at first use time?
> If not, what are the boot loader statements I need to add?
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Create loader.conf self.
cd /boot/
edit loader.conf
/autoboot_delay/="3"
When you reboot your system and you see, that you only have 3 or 2 
seconds instead 10 your loader.conf will be load.
When i remeber right, put bwi_load="YES" in loader.conf

 From command line you can make "kldload bwi" to load and test it 
without reboot.

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On 22.09.2012 20:59, Fbsd8 wrote:
> I am running 9.1-RC1 and have no boot loader.conf for any wifi modules.
> Is there some usb.conf file where I can add statement for my USB 
> linksys AE2500 wifi stick so the kernel modules will get auto loaded 
> at first use time?
> If not, what are the boot loader statements I need to add?
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To load bwi in loader.conf put

if_bwi_load="YES"
in it.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bwi&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE



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El dнa Saturday, September 22, 2012 a las 02:59:39PM -0400, Fbsd8 escribiу:

> > Have you load bwi driver?
> > it looks like Linksys AE2500 USB use BMC4323 chipset.
> > https://www.google.de/search?q=Cisco+Linksys+AE2500+chipset
> > 
> I am running 9.1-RC1 and have no boot loader.conf for any wifi modules.
> Is there some usb.conf file where I can add statement for my USB linksys 
> AE2500 wifi stick so the kernel modules will get auto loaded at first 
> use time?
> If not, what are the boot loader statements I need to add?

How about

$ man bwi
$ man loader.conf

HIH

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Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El dнa Saturday, September 22, 2012 a las 02:59:39PM -0400, Fbsd8 escribiу:
> 
>>> Have you load bwi driver?
>>> it looks like Linksys AE2500 USB use BMC4323 chipset.
>>> https://www.google.de/search?q=Cisco+Linksys+AE2500+chipset
>>>
>> I am running 9.1-RC1 and have no boot loader.conf for any wifi modules.
>> Is there some usb.conf file where I can add statement for my USB linksys 
>> AE2500 wifi stick so the kernel modules will get auto loaded at first 
>> use time?
>> If not, what are the boot loader statements I need to add?
> 
> How about
> 
> $ man bwi
> $ man loader.conf
> 
> HIH
> 
> 	matthias


After reading the man bwi I see that driver is just for b/g not n.
I bought my AE2500 because it supports "n" mode which gives you 3 times 
faster connection wifi speed.

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I have 3 usb wifi sticks.
One supports b/g standard only and it configures with no problems.
The other 2 support the "n" standard for faster connection speed between 
the usb stick and the network AP.
These 2 usb wifi sticks do not configure no mater what I do.
Thinking the Freebsd wifi drivers have not been updated for "n" standard 
yet. My Cisco Linksys AE2500 USB wifi stick does not work with the bwi 
driver. Has any body gotten this device to work?