From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 15:49:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE7A117 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8343BAE3 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF566.dip.t-dialin.net [87.188.245.102]) (authenticated bits=128) by flat.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0DFmnLm043974 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:48:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0DFnnq1078763 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:49:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0DFnh12031801 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:49:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201301131549.r0DFnh12031801@fire.js.berklix.net> To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Size limit for ctm pieces From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:29:13 CST." <50F04BE9.3080705@missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:49:43 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:49:05 -0000 Hi ctm-users@freebsd.org, Andrew wrote: > For example when I requested ctm-src-9 What service is this that Andrew is using ? Is it some service from mailman (like get with majordomo) ? ( Prob. not ref'd in content of last URL below *** in this email ? ) He's not fetching from eg http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ctm-svn-cur/ I'm subscribed to all lists as per: > From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith > However - there is also a ctm-src-9-fast mailing list, where you will & also when I occasionaly have a local mail failure, I 'fetch' from mirrors, eg ftp://ftp2.de.freebsd.org/ /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/cvs-cur/cvs-cur.19167.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/ports-cur/ports-cur.9700.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-4/src-4.2351.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-5/src-5.0860.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-6/src-6.1634.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-7/src-7.1676.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-8/src-8.1433.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-9/src-9.0555.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-cur/src-cur.10748.gz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/svn-cur/svn-cur.01107.xz /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/svn-ports-cur/svn-ports-cur.00109.xz but I guess Andrew is using some other fetch by mail service ? What ? ---- I think there should be a link from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html not justexisting link to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ctm_rmail&sektion=1 but also a new link to *** http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html Content of that last URL looks ancient with eg: "There is a sequence of deltas for the ports collection too, but interest has not been all that high yet" (There's been a whole load of ctm lists for maybe a decade.) Probably easiest if someone does an edit rewrite of whole page then asks Stephen to bless it as correct, & the freebsd doc team to replace whole old page, much less work than a load of small diff edits ? (Only catch is unfortunately freebsd web team work with an SGML tool chain that has over 10 years here, has almost constantly broken & conflicted with other ports, so its not just a trivial edit in HTML job. ) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 00:57:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C15340 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE1E8F5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0E0uqBx019567 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:56:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50F357D4.10204@missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:56:52 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Size limit for ctm pieces References: <201301131549.r0DFnh12031801@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201301131549.r0DFnh12031801@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:57:01 -0000 On 01/13/2013 09:49 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi ctm-users@freebsd.org, > > Andrew wrote: >> For example when I requested ctm-src-9 > > What service is this that Andrew is using ? Yes, Andrew had subscribed to the ctm-src-9 mailing list. The errors he noted really were as he described them. > Is it some service from mailman (like get with majordomo) ? Yes. When you signed up FreeBSD used majordomo. FreeBSD now uses mailman. One thing I have noticed about mailman is that it is much more reliable. majordomo used to lose some of the pieces. > ( Prob. not ref'd in content of last URL below *** in this email ? ) > > He's not fetching from eg http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ctm-svn-cur/ The ctm mailing lists are not archived. I never thought to ask that they would be, but I assume that they would take up huge amounts of space on servers around the world, that would duplicate the ftp sites. > > I'm subscribed to all lists as per: > >> From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith >> However - there is also a ctm-src-9-fast mailing list, where you will > > & also when I occasionaly have a local mail failure, I 'fetch' > from mirrors, eg ftp://ftp2.de.freebsd.org/ > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/cvs-cur/cvs-cur.19167.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/ports-cur/ports-cur.9700.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-4/src-4.2351.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-5/src-5.0860.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-6/src-6.1634.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-7/src-7.1676.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-8/src-8.1433.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-9/src-9.0555.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-cur/src-cur.10748.gz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/svn-cur/svn-cur.01107.xz > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/svn-ports-cur/svn-ports-cur.00109.xz > > but I guess Andrew is using some other fetch by mail service ? What ? Andrew was originally using the ftp sites. But in a private exchange between he and I, he found out that the ftp sites can often be half a day old. ftp-master fetches from my computer about once every 4 or 6 hours, and even after it has fetched them it takes a while to propagate. Some people used to offer ftp sites that directly fetched from my computer, and tended to be much more current. If anyone wants to offer such a service, I can open up my firewall to let them in. > > ---- > > I think there should be a link from > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html > not justexisting link to > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ctm_rmail&sektion=1 > but also a new link to > *** http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html > > Content of that last URL looks ancient with eg: > "There is a sequence of deltas for the ports collection too, > but interest has not been all that high yet" > (There's been a whole load of ctm lists for maybe a decade.) > > Probably easiest if someone does an edit rewrite of whole page then > asks Stephen to bless it as correct, & the freebsd doc team to > replace whole old page, much less work than a load of small diff > edits ? > > (Only catch is unfortunately freebsd web team work with an SGML > tool chain that has over 10 years here, has almost constantly broken > & conflicted with other ports, so its not just a trivial edit in HTML job. ) It would be totally great if someone wants to rewrite the CTM pages. The people who created CTM never anticipated it would still be used today. I have been running it for about 10 years. The University of Missouri has provided me a virtual computer on which to create the CTM deltas. It is really well hidden behind firewalls, as the person who provides me this service is very security conscious. So no-one else will be able to access it. If I ever suddenly died, I think it would be hard for someone else to pick up CTM, and my guess is that CTM would die with me. But if someone wants to get a copy of all the scripts and such like, I would be happy to give them a tar ball. I'll not give them access to the private PGP key unless I can be certain of who they are and that they won't abuse it. But whoever takes over the CTM stuff can create a new key, and as long as the FreeBSD people trust them, they will put up the new key on their mailman web sites. (I'll also not give out the private key that allows me to download from cvsup-master.freebsd.org, but since ctm-cvs-cur is due to die soon, that is moot.) From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:58:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF8471F for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168E1DBD for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE706.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.231.6]) (authenticated bits=128) by flat.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0EEwZxl048623; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:58:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0EExgWR084595; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:59:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0EExSfg099678; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:59:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201301141459.r0EExSfg099678@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Subject: Re: Size limit for ctm pieces From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:56:52 CST." <50F357D4.10204@missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:59:28 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:58:45 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > On 01/13/2013 09:49 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi ctm-users@freebsd.org, > > > > Andrew wrote: > >> For example when I requested ctm-src-9 > > > > What service is this that Andrew is using ? > > Yes, Andrew had subscribed to the ctm-src-9 mailing list. The errors he > noted really were as he described them. OK, sorry, my confusion from Andrew writing "requested", I didnt realise he meant "subscribed" I wrongly thought he was talking about some individual delta fetching by mail command (though re-reading Andrew's I see no base for my wrong assumption - blame my N. winter cold ;-) Sorry. > > Is it some service from mailman (like get with majordomo) ? > > Yes. When you signed up FreeBSD used majordomo. FreeBSD now uses > mailman. One thing I have noticed about mailman is that it is much more > reliable. majordomo used to lose some of the pieces. I lose some CTM deltas & other MIME enclosure stuff, cos it gets corrupted between my POP3 servers popd-2.2.2a_5 (on freebsd-9.1 servers) & fetchmail-6.3.8_7 - on my list to fix. > > ( Prob. not ref'd in content of last URL below *** in this email ? ) > > > > He's not fetching from eg http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ctm-svn-cur/ > > The ctm mailing lists are not archived. I never thought to ask that > they would be, but I assume that they would take up huge amounts of > space on servers around the world, that would duplicate the ftp sites. Yup, no point doing that, I was just looking around for inteterest to see what might be doing a mail order individual fetch. > > I'm subscribed to all lists as per: > > > >> From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith > >> However - there is also a ctm-src-9-fast mailing list, where you will > > > > & also when I occasionaly have a local mail failure, I 'fetch' > > from mirrors, eg ftp://ftp2.de.freebsd.org/ > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/cvs-cur/cvs-cur.19167.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/ports-cur/ports-cur.9700.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-4/src-4.2351.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-5/src-5.0860.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-6/src-6.1634.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-7/src-7.1676.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-8/src-8.1433.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-9/src-9.0555.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-cur/src-cur.10748.gz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/svn-cur/svn-cur.01107.xz > > /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/svn-ports-cur/svn-ports-cur.00109.xz > > > > but I guess Andrew is using some other fetch by mail service ? What ? > > Andrew was originally using the ftp sites. But in a private exchange > between he and I, he found out that the ftp sites can often be half a > day old. & sometimes lots more. > ftp-master fetches from my computer about once every 4 or 6 > hours, and even after it has fetched them it takes a while to propagate. > > Some people used to offer ftp sites that directly fetched from my > computer, and tended to be much more current. If anyone wants to offer > such a service, I can open up my firewall to let them in. I can offer that on my server if people want it ? > > ---- > > > > I think there should be a link from > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/synching.html > > not justexisting link to > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ctm_rmail&sektion=1 > > but also a new link to > > *** http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html > > > > Content of that last URL looks ancient with eg: > > "There is a sequence of deltas for the ports collection too, > > but interest has not been all that high yet" > > (There's been a whole load of ctm lists for maybe a decade.) > > > > Probably easiest if someone does an edit rewrite of whole page then > > asks Stephen to bless it as correct, & the freebsd doc team to > > replace whole old page, much less work than a load of small diff > > edits ? > > > > (Only catch is unfortunately freebsd web team work with an SGML > > tool chain that has over 10 years here, has almost constantly broken > > & conflicted with other ports, so its not just a trivial edit in HTML job. ) > > It would be totally great if someone wants to rewrite the CTM pages. > > > > The people who created CTM never anticipated it would still be used > today. I have been running it for about 10 years. The University of > Missouri has provided me a virtual computer on which to create the CTM > deltas. It is really well hidden behind firewalls, as the person who > provides me this service is very security conscious. So no-one else > will be able to access it. > > If I ever suddenly died, I think it would be hard for someone else to > pick up CTM, and my guess is that CTM would die with me. But if someone > wants to get a copy of all the scripts and such like, I would be happy > to give them a tar ball. I'll not give them access to the private PGP > key unless I can be certain of who they are and that they won't abuse > it. But whoever takes over the CTM stuff can create a new key, and as > long as the FreeBSD people trust them, they will put up the new key on > their mailman web sites. > > (I'll also not give out the private key that allows me to download from > cvsup-master.freebsd.org, but since ctm-cvs-cur is due to die soon, that > is moot.) It would be a good idea to have a backup site for scripts & stuff. I can offer some resources, I'll contact you off list to discuss if what I can offer is sufficient, however should also please feel free to offer stephen as they may be able to offer more server resources than I can. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 23:40:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E42A7B2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63E9305 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0FNeAmq038159 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:40:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50F5E8DA.2030105@missouri.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:40:10 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Size limit for ctm pieces References: <201301141459.r0EExSfg099678@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201301141459.r0EExSfg099678@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:40:18 -0000 OK people - I have found a way to get around the problem of the ftp servers being up to a day out of date. I am going to put up the CTM files on my website http://web.missouri.edu/~stephen/CTM/ This will exclude all the xEmpty files and any files over 500M. This way I will not go over my quota. This list will be updated hourly. This way, if you lose any emails or such like, you can quickly get the files from another source. I have only just set this up. If for some reason it isn't working, please let me know. From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 14:12:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB974B02 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:12:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daeron@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67156AFD for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cirth.localnet (pa49-176-98-74.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au [49.176.98.74] (may be forged)) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0GEC7KK005484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:12:12 +1100 From: Andrew Johnson To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Did src-9.0557 fail to assemble Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:11:58 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-STABLE; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201301170111.58064.daeron@optushome.com.au> X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=P/xiHV8u c=1 sm=1 a=XbvlWfARY4YA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lojdg71KAAAA:8 a=vGjIl1vIYAkA:10 a=jQ6ktoGGlx7JPqagI8sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=x2IZR53i1b9rT0Jj0P2WGg==:117 X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:12:14 -0000 Got the last pieces of src-9.0557.gz+001-037 But ctm_rmail failed to assemble the delta and delete the pieces, it has delivered the following two deltas to my CTM directory but not src-9.0557.gz From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 14:46:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351F8524 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC2CDCC for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0GEk8ww097937 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:46:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50F6BD30.20107@missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:46:08 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did src-9.0557 fail to assemble References: <201301170111.58064.daeron@optushome.com.au> In-Reply-To: <201301170111.58064.daeron@optushome.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:46:10 -0000 On 01/16/2013 08:11 AM, Andrew Johnson wrote: > > Got the last pieces of src-9.0557.gz+001-037 > But ctm_rmail failed to assemble the delta and delete the pieces, > it has delivered the following two deltas to my CTM directory but not src-9.0557.gz The only time I have seen this happen is when one or more of the pieces is missing. Can you send me a complete "ls" of the directory containing the pieces? Pieces do seem to somehow get lost in the mail once in a while! In the meantime, you can download src-9.0557 from the ftp or web sites (see yesterday's message where I announce a more up-to-date web site I just created: http://web.missouri.edu/~stephen/CTM/ ). However if all the pieces are present, and it still isn't assembling them properly, I would like to know about it and try to figure out what went wrong. Thanks, Stephen From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 15:11:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309CFAD0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daeron@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AA5F32 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cirth.localnet (pa49-176-98-74.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au [49.176.98.74] (may be forged)) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r0GFB07K010718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:11:01 +1100 From: Andrew Johnson To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did src-9.0557 fail to assemble Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:10:52 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-STABLE; KDE/4.8.4; i386; ; ) References: <201301170111.58064.daeron@optushome.com.au> <50F6BD30.20107@missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <50F6BD30.20107@missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201301170210.52869.daeron@optushome.com.au> X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Zty1sKHG c=1 sm=1 a=XbvlWfARY4YA:10 a=dlyZEx3kU8kA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=lojdg71KAAAA:8 a=yVVeQXFCpVIA:10 a=Ao4mqCnyQwGjtNVYuzEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=x2IZR53i1b9rT0Jj0P2WGg==:117 X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:11:04 -0000 On Thursday 17 January 2013 01:46:08 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > On 01/16/2013 08:11 AM, Andrew Johnson wrote: > > > > Got the last pieces of src-9.0557.gz+001-037 > > But ctm_rmail failed to assemble the delta and delete the pieces, > > it has delivered the following two deltas to my CTM directory but not src-9.0557.gz > > The only time I have seen this happen is when one or more of the pieces > is missing. Can you send me a complete "ls" of the directory containing > the pieces? Pieces do seem to somehow get lost in the mail once in a while! First thing I checked too, but they all seem to be there. $ ls /home/ctmpieces src-9.0550.gz+005-015 src-9.0550.gz+012-015 src-9.0557.gz+004-037 src-9.0557.gz+011-037 src-9.0557.gz+018-037 src-9.0557.gz+025-037 src-9.0557.gz+032-037 src-9.0550.gz+006-015 src-9.0550.gz+013-015 src-9.0557.gz+005-037 src-9.0557.gz+012-037 src-9.0557.gz+019-037 src-9.0557.gz+026-037 src-9.0557.gz+033-037 src-9.0550.gz+007-015 src-9.0550.gz+014-015 src-9.0557.gz+006-037 src-9.0557.gz+013-037 src-9.0557.gz+020-037 src-9.0557.gz+027-037 src-9.0557.gz+034-037 src-9.0550.gz+008-015 src-9.0550.gz+015-015 src-9.0557.gz+007-037 src-9.0557.gz+014-037 src-9.0557.gz+021-037 src-9.0557.gz+028-037 src-9.0557.gz+035-037 src-9.0550.gz+009-015 src-9.0557.gz+001-037 src-9.0557.gz+008-037 src-9.0557.gz+015-037 src-9.0557.gz+022-037 src-9.0557.gz+029-037 src-9.0557.gz+036-037 src-9.0550.gz+010-015 src-9.0557.gz+002-037 src-9.0557.gz+009-037 src-9.0557.gz+016-037 src-9.0557.gz+023-037 src-9.0557.gz+030-037 src-9.0557.gz+037-037 src-9.0550.gz+011-015 src-9.0557.gz+003-037 src-9.0557.gz+010-037 src-9.0557.gz+017-037 src-9.0557.gz+024-037 src-9.0557.gz+031-037 From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 15:28:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9513B3D1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4640EFE8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0GFSZTw000896 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:28:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50F6C723.7000902@missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:28:35 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did src-9.0557 fail to assemble References: <201301170111.58064.daeron@optushome.com.au> <50F6BD30.20107@missouri.edu> <201301170210.52869.daeron@optushome.com.au> In-Reply-To: <201301170210.52869.daeron@optushome.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:28:37 -0000 On 01/16/2013 09:10 AM, Andrew Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 17 January 2013 01:46:08 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >> On 01/16/2013 08:11 AM, Andrew Johnson wrote: >>> >>> Got the last pieces of src-9.0557.gz+001-037 >>> But ctm_rmail failed to assemble the delta and delete the pieces, >>> it has delivered the following two deltas to my CTM directory but not src-9.0557.gz >> >> The only time I have seen this happen is when one or more of the pieces >> is missing. Can you send me a complete "ls" of the directory containing >> the pieces? Pieces do seem to somehow get lost in the mail once in a while! > > First thing I checked too, but they all seem to be there. > > $ ls /home/ctmpieces > src-9.0550.gz+005-015 src-9.0550.gz+012-015 src-9.0557.gz+004-037 src-9.0557.gz+011-037 src-9.0557.gz+018-037 src-9.0557.gz+025-037 src-9.0557.gz+032-037 > src-9.0550.gz+006-015 src-9.0550.gz+013-015 src-9.0557.gz+005-037 src-9.0557.gz+012-037 src-9.0557.gz+019-037 src-9.0557.gz+026-037 src-9.0557.gz+033-037 > src-9.0550.gz+007-015 src-9.0550.gz+014-015 src-9.0557.gz+006-037 src-9.0557.gz+013-037 src-9.0557.gz+020-037 src-9.0557.gz+027-037 src-9.0557.gz+034-037 > src-9.0550.gz+008-015 src-9.0550.gz+015-015 src-9.0557.gz+007-037 src-9.0557.gz+014-037 src-9.0557.gz+021-037 src-9.0557.gz+028-037 src-9.0557.gz+035-037 > src-9.0550.gz+009-015 src-9.0557.gz+001-037 src-9.0557.gz+008-037 src-9.0557.gz+015-037 src-9.0557.gz+022-037 src-9.0557.gz+029-037 src-9.0557.gz+036-037 > src-9.0550.gz+010-015 src-9.0557.gz+002-037 src-9.0557.gz+009-037 src-9.0557.gz+016-037 src-9.0557.gz+023-037 src-9.0557.gz+030-037 src-9.0557.gz+037-037 > src-9.0550.gz+011-015 src-9.0557.gz+003-037 src-9.0557.gz+010-037 src-9.0557.gz+017-037 src-9.0557.gz+024-037 src-9.0557.gz+031-037 Is it possible that some of them are corrupted? What about "ls -l /home/ctmpieces"? And maybe you could look inside the pieces and see that they are properly constructed.