From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 00:20:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41E72C1 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 00:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48ABCFC for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 00:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lightning.wonkity.com (lightning.wonkity.com [10.0.0.8]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r130KKsk035975; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:20:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@lightning.wonkity.com) Received: from lightning.wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r130KKcF016729; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:20:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@lightning.wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by lightning.wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r130KJIE016726; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:20:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@lightning.wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:20:19 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, edward@rdtan.net Subject: Re: [RFC] Q&A propose to add into FAQ Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [10.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:20:20 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:20:28 -0000 > Q8: This server of mine is a public DNS and it seems to be rejecting > connections because of too many TCP connections with "TIME_WAIT" status > (from "netstat -an"). How can I reduce the timeout? > A8: In short, tune the sysctl value "net.inet.tcp.msl" to something > modern and acceptable, such as 7500. > In detail, the default timeout value for TIME_WAIT status is set to 60 > seconds. This value is based on RFC 793. Since this RFC is drafted in > year 1981, equipments & bandwidth of that time wasn't as fast as what we > have now. A 60 seconds of waiting, for TCP session to terminate is a > long time. For a busy server opening & closing TCP connections, this > value should set to a fairly short time, such as 15 seconds. > The value of "net.inet.tcp.msl" is not the usual "literal" seconds > though. In order to reduce from the default 60 seconds to 15 seconds, > convert it to milliseconds and then divide it by 2. For example, > when 15 seconds is converted to 15,000 milliseconds, it then should > divide by 2, which sums up as "7500". This will be the value for > "net.inet.tcp.msl". > Q9: I just updated /etc/newsyslog.conf. How do I check for syntax error? > A9: Use the parameter "-nvv" when executing "newsyslog". For example, > "newsyslog -nvv" would tell what are each of the lines in > /etc/newsyslog.conf would do when the time comes. While these are helpful, they are not frequently asked. They would be better suited to the Configuration and Tuning chapter of the Handbook. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 16:51:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A16F7E; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from issyl0@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18E7FF3; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r13GpTkg071876; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:51:29 GMT (envelope-from issyl0@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from issyl0@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r13GpT7a071872; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:51:29 GMT (envelope-from issyl0) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:51:29 GMT Message-Id: <201302031651.r13GpT7a071872@freefall.freebsd.org> To: issyl0@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, issyl0@FreeBSD.org From: issyl0@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/175788: FreeBSD Handbook - Dead Link X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:51:30 -0000 Synopsis: FreeBSD Handbook - Dead Link Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->issyl0 Responsible-Changed-By: issyl0 Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Feb 3 16:51:28 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=175788 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 17:37:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FAF393 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x22c.google.com (mail-ia0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FAA268 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f172.google.com with SMTP id u8so7314332iag.3 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:37:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=BfZZhijBQgwS5TpmSDP96R6GgCXXYJ9cBumoHT8oimQ=; b=uQLRQqIbIel4tPVILaXh5BwTgpf2TJNX20MMEBv9YDxnE4ZQpPTL/e87843AJmn2Mg eKPbGhtBy303akXKiGw/fCSFlsp51MLeuV2cwWq7I/Cb1jIVodCyVIiewg9Cs8/hdW15 kRpCQzlPznmb7LrIzCtbeOFAOQsq1AU5S8qd/xNP7RveUc5BZAGSe/xwZVG23KeQC1Qv mMRrBoo2kg134xsTpX4T8pU5yt3mr8Oyx+v+5ICR0d6WK48uHjydoLpYHz7QDgbtIViF /95SzZm6bWLSj+4zqZHxv2oEMj7/40OKU5RH0P49mP3XonU68bxrLWeE+Km2jFZTGwIC 1SAA== X-Received: by 10.50.161.169 with SMTP id xt9mr3203303igb.62.1359913039478; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:37:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.16.73 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:36:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:36:49 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oblgWnC9w1vubBWoA8y_SOh99zU Message-ID: Subject: Re: cvsup-master perk To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:37:19 -0000 On 2 February 2013 23:50, Eitan Adler wrote: > Anyone object to this? It seems that there are fewer and fewer perks > for being a FreeBSD developer. ;) > > commit 972354fa6197235e94123d8273e7ad9265cfe019 > Author: Eitan Adler > Date: Sat Feb 2 18:45:52 2013 -0500 > > Access to cvsup-master is not very important anymore. > > Reviewed by: doc > Approved by: ??? (mentor) > > diff --git a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > index f94bc0e..9240993 100644 > --- a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > +++ b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > @@ -4159,24 +4159,6 @@ bak/packages packages from last complete > <major_version> run on <arch& > there are at least some perks: > > > - > - > - Direct access to cvsup-master > - > - > - As a committer, you may apply to &a.kuriyama; for direct access > - to cvsup-master.FreeBSD.org, > - providing the public key output from cvpasswd > - yourusername@FreeBSD.org > - freefall.FreeBSD.org. Please note: you must > - specify freefall.FreeBSD.org on the > - cvpasswd command line even though the > - actual server is cvsup-master. Access to > - cvsup-master should not be overused as it is > - a busy machine. > - > - > - > > Free 4-CD and DVD Sets I'm not sure about the CD and DVD sets either any more :/ Chris From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 3 19:50:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343D7602 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C15828 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r13Jo01a031608 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:50:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r13Jo0HZ031607; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:50:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:50:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201302031950.r13Jo0HZ031607@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Chris Rees Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0729F514 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crees@bayofrum.net) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E4A818 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 79-75-90-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO pegasus.bayofrum.net) ([79.75.90.131]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2013 19:47:28 +0000 Received: by pegasus.bayofrum.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14B2E1EC6F; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:46:10 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <20130203194610.14B2E1EC6F@pegasus.bayofrum.net> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:46:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Rees To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/175805: Correct spelling mistake on 9.1-R release notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Rees List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:50:01 -0000 >Number: 175805 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Correct spelling mistake on 9.1-R release notes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Feb 03 19:50:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Rees >Release: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE amd64 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD pegasus.bayofrum.net 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Apr 29 12:29:02 BST 2012 root@pegasus.bayofrum.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PEGASUS amd64 >Description: Trivial spelling fix. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- errata-installtion.diff begins here --- Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/releases/9.1R/errata.html =================================================================== --- en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/releases/9.1R/errata.html (revision 40876) +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/releases/9.1R/errata.html (working copy) @@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ FreeBSD-CURRENT but was too late for inclusion in this release. An Errata Notice for 9.1-RELEASE is planned.

-

[December 25, 2012] The Installtion Instructions had the following wrong information +

[December 25, 2012] The Installation Instructions had the following wrong information about upgrading procedure. All of them have been fixed in the online version.

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[217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm25193841eej.6.2013.02.03.20.17.21 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:17:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 05:17:18 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: RFC: Dealing with version-specific docs Message-ID: <20130204041717.GA68155@kobe> References: <51065CFC.5090803@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51065CFC.5090803@FreeBSD.org> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 04:17:24 -0000 On 2013-01-28 12:11, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Hi, > > as you may know, the printed edition of FreeBSD Handbook is being > worked. In our current Handbook version, we have version-specific > information for different major releases, while the printed edition > shall concentrate on 9.X. We cannot just drop the parts that detail > older releases since they haven't yet reached EOL and there are > people out there still using these. So we have to deal somehow with > this situation. Fortunately, DocBook provides a mechanism, called > profiling, which we could use. It would also be beneficial for later > cleanup work since finding outdated information that has to do with > unsupported releases always requires big effort. I've made a draft > about how it could be done in a practical way: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/VersionSpecificDocs > > Please read it and if you have doubts, concerns or better > suggestions, please share them. I like the use of os= attributes, but I feel a bit at odds with the requirement to duplicate version information in the XML attribute *and* the contained text, e.g.: To do foobar on &os; 8.X, type bar. To do foobar on &os; 9.X, type baz. We are typing version numbers twice here, and this introduces both the possibility for error and the chance for missing important mismatches in XML attributes vs. actual text. Is there any way we can avoid typing the version numbers twice? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 09:25:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81007DE3; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 09:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC566FB; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 09:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AC614D242E; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 10:25:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Y3tjKTQfuXXy; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 10:25:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26AD514D2410; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 10:25:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <510F7E82.9000708@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 10:25:22 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: RFC: Dealing with version-specific docs References: <51065CFC.5090803@FreeBSD.org> <20130204041717.GA68155@kobe> In-Reply-To: <20130204041717.GA68155@kobe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:25:37 -0000 Em 04-02-2013 05:17, Giorgos Keramidas escreveu: > I like the use of os= attributes, but I feel a bit at odds with the > requirement to duplicate version information in the XML attribute*and* > the contained text, e.g.: > > To do foobar on &os; 8.X, type bar. > > To do foobar on &os; 9.X, type baz. > > We are typing version numbers twice here, and this introduces both the > possibility for error and the chance for missing important mismatches in > XML attributes vs. actual text. > > Is there any way we can avoid typing the version numbers twice? Theoretically, we could render the marked sections differently and then it would not require duplicated information. But in practice, this requires heavy customization of our build process. We have to customize different things: - The XSLT stylesheets used for XHTML output. This is quite easy, I can do it without problems. - Either we keep using Jade for PS/PDF generation and then we have to customize the DSSSL stylesheets. DSSSL is a dead and badly documented standard and I practically don't know anything about it so we need to find someone, who is willing to do it. It is not easy because it never became widely used and there is no free reference or documentation about it. It also raises the question whether it is worth investing time and effort in something that is so outdated. - Or we allow Java dependency just for the printed output formats (XHTML would still be generated without Java) and then we need to do the customizations in XSLT/XSL FO, which is much easier and I can do it myself. I mentioned these problems at EuroBSDCon but people were quite reluctant about the Java dependency even though the XHTML part would still work without Java. I think that I have to raise this issue again. I've been working on improving the doc tree to use up to date and better standards than the earlier ones and now I have a branch with some important updates. I've maintained compatibility with Jade but sooner or later we'll have to move away from it. The trivial way is using Fop (a Java-based XSL FO renderer), which all other open source projects do that use XML-based documentation. Some people suggested generating PDF from XHTML which imho is a bad option since XHTML is not a paper-oriented markup so we loose features in that way, so I don't believe in its success and I'm not really willing to work on botches. Now I'll bring the tree technologically up to date until the point where we can avoid Java but then we will have to choose how to go beyond. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 11:06:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EB26E0 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C32C2B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r14B643Z027877 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:06:04 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r14B63TA027875 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:06:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:06:03 GMT Message-Id: <201302041106.r14B63TA027875@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:06:04 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/175712 doc Update 'disk naming' handbook page o docs/175687 doc pthread_setschedparam(3) may fail for undocumented rea o docs/175564 doc [books/porters-handbook]: add note about port orgin f o docs/175560 doc ugen(4) man page contains incorrect device node path o docs/175349 doc "freebsdnic" email address at Intel bounces o docs/175239 doc sem_wait can be interrupted o docs/175224 doc Manpage ada(4) references ad(4) which is non-existant o docs/175123 doc [geom] gpart list/status isn't documented in usage sec o docs/174966 doc [patch] Bug in chflags(2) man page o docs/174892 doc 5.6.1 of handbook has a small problem o docs/174868 doc mount(2) doesn't do a good job at describing all possi o docs/174827 doc Porter's Handbook: Usage of CONFIGURE_ENV in 6.6 Using o docs/174792 doc synopsis for nsupdate(1) missing options -L, and -p o docs/174581 doc man page of recvmsg(2) does not mention return value 0 o docs/174433 doc man setfacl is not correct o docs/173710 doc Added section "MTP storage" to handbook o docs/173703 doc Documentation refers a port that do not exists o docs/173664 doc csup(1) manpage refers to "runsocks", which was part o o docs/173585 doc SEE ALSO in pcap(3) references nonexistent pfconfig(8) o docs/173539 doc [patch] statfs(2) man page missed the error code ENOSY o docs/173448 doc [patch] ftw.3 manual page example addition o docs/173321 doc ports(7) man page -- no info on building with debuggin o docs/173202 doc [patch] ACPICONF(8) does not have -k option documented o docs/173013 doc FreeBSD Boot Menu documentation lacks detail o docs/172927 doc ipfw manual page doesn't show simpliest NAT case o docs/172913 doc [ipsec] [patch] setkey(8) is unclear on anti-replay wi o docs/172869 doc [PATCH] Add in nifty lang icons to index.html (home) o docs/172868 doc [PATCH] fix header.ent change Introduction -> For newb o docs/172743 doc IPv6 handbooks lacks info about accepting router adver o docs/172626 doc [PATCH] modify the community/* pages to look more plea o docs/172370 doc [handbook] Handbook should be updated for Blu-Ray driv o docs/172369 doc mkisofs(8)/growisofs(1m) don't specify UDF version o docs/172368 doc mount_udf(8) doesn't specify which versions of UDF are o docs/172367 doc ata(4) man page needs an updated for Blu-Ray o docs/172330 doc [PATCH] Fix some errors introduced to announce.xml by o docs/172144 doc psignal(9) manpage is outdated for FreeBSD-9 systems o docs/172137 doc deprecated information for adduser(8) man pages o docs/171337 doc [PATCH] Add german filename conversion scheme for moun o docs/171292 doc [handbook] [patch] handbook should describe subversion o docs/171199 doc the GDB man page is outdated o docs/170691 doc Difference between zfs manpages and reality o docs/170223 doc IPv6 configuration section for 9.x is incorrect o docs/170119 doc at behaviour and man at inconsistency o docs/169712 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_TW.Big5 apache section o docs/169711 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_CN.GB2312 apache section o docs/169544 doc serial port console documentation changes s docs/169401 doc passify dead links in release links, move www to lists o docs/169377 doc [patch] ipmon(8) man page refers to a different facili o docs/169317 doc zfs umount refers to umount(1M) but should to umount(8 o docs/169158 doc [patch] iasl(8) man page is out of date o docs/168930 doc map_mincore(9) not up-to-date o docs/168915 doc size of integers used by test(1) and sh(1) is not docu o docs/168823 doc 404s in fr_FR French web pages o docs/168814 doc [patch] remove `d` negative pointer EINVAL requirement o docs/168803 doc Remove outdated smp info o docs/167742 doc Update documentation for group 5, and newgrp 1 o docs/167741 doc group(5): Group Passwords do not work and are not docu o docs/167429 doc geli(8) needs to mention unencrypted /etc/fstab requir o docs/166553 doc find(1): find -delete documentation is misleading o docs/166358 doc No networking in Jail build via: handbook/jail-tuning o conf/166330 doc [rc] [patch] Thin server configuration revision reques o docs/165657 doc Web site Features page aging o docs/165551 doc ipfw(8): no info in "ipfw pipe show" about ipv6 o docs/165249 doc Multibyte characters in manpages still not displaying o docs/164803 doc Unclear manual page for mount_unionfs(8) o docs/164620 doc Raid 1 issues o docs/164099 doc gparm(8): man page for gparm set is incorrect and inco o docs/164034 doc acl(9) documentation lacking o docs/163879 doc [handbook] handbook does not say about how to force to o docs/163830 doc device smbios: missing documentation, no manpage o docs/163149 doc [patch] Red Hat Linux/i386 9 HTML format sudo man page o docs/162765 doc [patch] lseek(2) may return successful although no see o docs/162699 doc Handbook/Upgrading instructions: should mention delete o docs/162587 doc unclear/incomplete description of per-interface statis o docs/162419 doc [request] please document (new) zfs and zpool cmdline o docs/162404 doc [handbook] IPv6 link-local address compared with IPv4 o docs/161754 doc p4tcc(4), est(4) and qpi(4) are not documented o docs/161496 doc zfs(1): Please document that sysctl vfs.usermount must o docs/160460 doc [handbook] Network setup guide suggestion o docs/160446 doc [handbook] Handbook sound setup seems outdated o docs/160445 doc [handbook] Handbook does not mention ACL o docs/160399 doc Man page for re(4) missing jumbo frames info o docs/159307 doc [patch] lpd smm chapter unconditionally installed o docs/158388 doc Incorrect documentation of LOCAL_SCRIPT in release(7) o docs/158387 doc The tree(3) man should mention the RB_FOREACH_SAFE() A o docs/157908 doc [handbook] Description of post-install should include o docs/157698 doc [patch] gpart(8) man page contains old/incorrect size o docs/157316 doc [patch] update devstat(9) man page o docs/157049 doc FreeBSD Handbook: Chapter 14 (Security) Inaccuracy o docs/156920 doc isspecial(3) is not helpful o docs/156815 doc chmod(1): manpage should describe that chmod kicks +t o docs/156689 doc stf(4) output-only documentation gives bad configurati f docs/156187 doc [handbook] [patch] Add bsnmpd to handbook o docs/156081 doc troff falls with troff.core with UTF-8 man with incorr o docs/155982 doc [handbook] reaper of the dead: remove reference to flo o docs/155149 doc [patch] don't encourage using xorg.conf outside of PRE o docs/154838 doc update cvs-tags information on releng_* to reflect sup o docs/153958 doc ksu man-page documented, but not installed a docs/153012 doc [patch] iostat(8) requires an argument to -c option o docs/151752 doc pw.conf(5) doesn't define format for file clearly o docs/150991 doc [patch] Install upgtfw using pkg_add as advised in upg o docs/150917 doc [patch] icmp.4, wrong description of icmplim and icmpl o docs/150877 doc ambiguity in newsyslog(8) man page about zfs with comp o docs/150255 doc dtrace description should mention makeoptions DEBUG=-g o docs/149574 doc [patch] update mi_switch(9) man page o docs/148987 doc [patch] {MD[245]|SHA_|SHA1_|SHA256_}{End|File|FileChun o docs/148984 doc [handbook] Mistake in section 16.15.4 of the handbook o docs/148680 doc [sysctl][patch] Document some sys/kern sysctls o docs/148071 doc Failover mode between wired and wireless interfaces o docs/147995 doc elf.5 man page has has missing reference o docs/146521 doc [handbook] Update IPv6 system handbook section to ment o docs/145699 doc hexdump(1) mutes all format qualifier output following o docs/145069 doc Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article out dated. o docs/145066 doc Update for new uart dev names for serial port. s docs/144818 doc all mailinglist archives dated 19970101 contain traili o docs/144630 doc [patch] domainname(1) manpage contains old information o docs/144515 doc [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents o docs/143850 doc procfs(5) manpage for status > controlling terminal is o docs/143472 doc gethostname(3) references undefined value: HOST_NAME_M o docs/143416 doc [handbook] IPFW handbook page issues o docs/143408 doc man filedesc(9) is missing o docs/141032 doc misleading documentation for rtadvd.conf(5) raflags se s docs/140847 doc [request] add documentation on ECMP and new route args o docs/140444 doc [patch] New Traditional Chinese translation of custom- o docs/140375 doc [UPDATE] Updated zh_TW.Big5/articles/nanobsd o docs/139336 doc [request] ZFS documentation suggestion o docs/139165 doc gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and o docs/139018 doc translation of submitting.sgml from docproj/submitting o docs/138845 doc Exceeding kern.ipc.maxpipekva refers to tuning(7) whic o docs/138663 doc system(3) man page confuses users about "return value o docs/138485 doc bpf(4) and ip(4) man pages missing important corner ca o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option o docs/135516 doc [patch] pax(1) manual not mentioning chflags unawarene o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131626 doc [patch] dump(8) "recommended" cache option confusing o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129464 doc using packages system o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/116588 doc No IPFW tables or dummynet in Handbook o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit p docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101271 doc serial console documentation implies kernel rebuild re o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/95408 doc install over serial console does not work as documente o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/81611 doc [patch] natd runs with -same_ports by default o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/57298 doc [patch] add using compact flash cards info to handbook s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/51480 doc Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pa o kern/51341 doc [ipfw] [patch] ipfw rule 'deny icmp from any to any ic o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] Add documentation on the fixit disk o docs/47594 doc [patch] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 224 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 18:41:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E354AB64 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail-gw12.york.ac.uk (mail-gw12.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9802931B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ury.york.ac.uk ([144.32.108.81]:21538) by mail-gw12.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U2Qyw-0005lt-Ng; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:41:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:41:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Gavin Atkinson X-X-Sender: gavin@thunderhorn.york.ac.uk To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: cvsup-master perk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:41:38 -0000 On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, Eitan Adler wrote: > Anyone object to this? It seems that there are fewer and fewer perks > for being a FreeBSD developer. ;) > > commit 972354fa6197235e94123d8273e7ad9265cfe019 > Author: Eitan Adler > Date: Sat Feb 2 18:45:52 2013 -0500 > > Access to cvsup-master is not very important anymore. > > Reviewed by: doc > Approved by: ??? (mentor) > > diff --git a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > index f94bc0e..9240993 100644 > --- a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > +++ b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml > @@ -4159,24 +4159,6 @@ bak/packages packages from last complete > <major_version> run on <arch& > there are at least some perks: > > > - > - > - Direct access to cvsup-master > - > - > - As a committer, you may apply to &a.kuriyama; for direct access > - to cvsup-master.FreeBSD.org, > - providing the public key output from cvpasswd > - yourusername@FreeBSD.org > - freefall.FreeBSD.org. Please note: you must > - specify freefall.FreeBSD.org on the > - cvpasswd command line even though the > - actual server is cvsup-master. Access to > - cvsup-master should not be overused as it is > - a busy machine. > - > - > - > > Free 4-CD and DVD Sets Do it. :-) Gavin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 21:19:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D943CB7; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.jr-hosting.nl (mail.jr-hosting.nl [IPv6:2a01:4f8:141:5ffd::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF062FFC; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:d701::985e:fe5b:6ef9:7e62] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:d701:0:985e:fe5b:6ef9:7e62]) by mail.jr-hosting.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53F3B38B333D; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 22:19:26 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: cvsup-master perk From: Remko Lodder In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 22:19:25 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5C7EB820-A5C5-42F6-8E41-2DD3D3716ABC@FreeBSD.org> References: To: Gavin Atkinson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:19:31 -0000 On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, Eitan Adler wrote: >=20 >> Anyone object to this? It seems that there are fewer and fewer perks >> for being a FreeBSD developer. ;) >>=20 >> commit 972354fa6197235e94123d8273e7ad9265cfe019 >> Author: Eitan Adler >> Date: Sat Feb 2 18:45:52 2013 -0500 >>=20 >> Access to cvsup-master is not very important anymore. >>=20 >> Reviewed by: doc >> Approved by: ??? (mentor) >>=20 >> diff --git a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml >> b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml >> index f94bc0e..9240993 100644 >> --- a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml >> +++ b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.xml >> @@ -4159,24 +4159,6 @@ bak/packages packages from last complete >> <major_version> run on <arch& >> there are at least some perks: >>=20 >> >> - >> - >> - Direct access to cvsup-master >> - >> - >> - As a committer, you may apply to &a.kuriyama; for direct = access >> - to cvsup-master.FreeBSD.org, >> - providing the public key output from cvpasswd >> - yourusername@FreeBSD.org >> - freefall.FreeBSD.org. Please note: you must >> - specify freefall.FreeBSD.org on the >> - cvpasswd command line even though the >> - actual server is cvsup-master. Access to >> - cvsup-master should not be overused as it = is >> - a busy machine. >> - >> - >> - >> >> Free 4-CD and DVD Sets >=20 > Do it. :-) Go for it, as we deprecating the use and actually turning it off = soon-ish.. please remove this as well. Remko >=20 > Gavin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 /"\ With kind regards, | remko@elvandar.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@FreeBSD.org X FreeBSD | = http://www.evilcoder.org / \ The Power to Serve | Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 01:20:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9FA8BC for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 01:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BE1D55 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 01:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r151KnOu000369 for ; 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b=QuCXv70mWER6T6PLUFO0MhiCBQiKflUgWU6/w8yrtfu1E62o6p+5eM930fXirOR8Jn tZ6WLqfmsGhZ8przYXEN7otj9ydZm3NskDtu2zqw4McnBoPrQKat7Rh2dfzegNN2LS8s RHrAytqjPhb/oaH7h02AF4a7dhro0kua6vm4tHHOlJCwi250pT8VWZNxuSjWnql8on9z yFUTNCBxpueACC0mDLVr6aRj+JWms1Ok4D8hWVqcpTgpTEc1CsoWIhL78R6BAjA4HDIJ WnYkA4JFsZVHEgM+Nk7UXCxWOGHcKysYacX7OiAohJi2AH2jVIDmphfX/Ziv49rgK/cv 6zeQ== X-Received: by 10.152.109.146 with SMTP id hs18mr21426937lab.8.1360032279854; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:44:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:44:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201301290928.03346.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <201301290928.03346.jhb@freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:44:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD acpi project To: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlimukS4aY4NLD3VGcbCiMsPQtRuKyEkmsoE/rQluRE1MjltUucvrSniusL9MRUVcuhAjpY Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jkim@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:44:47 -0000 On 29 January 2013 09:28, John Baldwin wrote: > On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:55:22 pm Eitan Adler wrote: >> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/acpi/ >> >> Is this still active? >> >> Should the page be removed? > > It is stale and needs updating, but some of the todo things are legitimate. > It should probably move to the wiki however. Perhaps Jung-uk Kim (cc'd) is > interested in doing that? *prod* -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 02:45:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933F95E2 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 02:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com (la-in-x0235.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE63FA0 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 02:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id fr10so5211242lab.40 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:45:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=zkwTirK5H8dFde1mKxuQP8biE2tjDlHmj9DtV0bugUU=; b=NmkjpOqpL4k4e06K6X57TWXj+OqZfdNppF86twB9InZWNDtsCN56TXwyYqaoFbclrQ jD/VK8eWBsz1PvFOsFsoM78e4rtpCopDo0Q4jwMzyfWxzN/eSHHPXXhbYGlZ5R8eNGY/ YHiAtIHRJqRxpCR2Lqz2jR1O3eQEd6q9FPrCg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=zkwTirK5H8dFde1mKxuQP8biE2tjDlHmj9DtV0bugUU=; b=ENYuAuX86DQlQxPsBx5vbm6ahc1PsLF1dH1vw2KcbFqRmmZGcHqhS6w0If+nPRBuxL oi0x2g0/u9ulXGL98k6zczCvzUiyWxwxP+xmoS+CquN1UyBHzGJ1JgkqS4LGVs4zKlX+ ZPIOGQXAoO1x2HWu0rDqLasm+uV3VQ+tAJRqLzNQqyk88uddJn/aECDis7nPleh9Wzxm T66yQCWf0h3vE+Du+4bwJRKeK6BOBCrYuAa3931pXbVijtNDM2qwm9kwEfuj608U086l D5RjLb7rEN3foW5nI09c3AlXk0X3olOW4vaJtYUtaXWrF2yWxdLrc8OIPdQJwSl6GAej EUlg== X-Received: by 10.152.108.195 with SMTP id hm3mr21328302lab.17.1360032349609; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:45:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:45:19 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:45:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: netperf project page To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmkkGEvHMBmYxQ0I2O4Rr3qmkvnnipDM7bjjHbBypL6GKVLgE0Ald6k7y6EGp9dH5cAbIA/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:45:51 -0000 Is the following page still useful? 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Would there be any objection to removing it? http://www.freebsd.org/projects/busdma/index.html -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 02:49:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C891379D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 02:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F88FD7 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 02:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id gm6so7079727lbb.26 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:49:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ANl7F0X4orqi2P3jXiAnJAUzhSk0lQ4X9zs7WO6WmCU=; b=mCeIxeEkxAlsFWObH/f4XjWzUfj2L3z9WEtlT4pEM0pLuyhE7eHvIqPISyAHwIs7vr C1BD3sctlygFf+mkNInPsJLjwy2OLyDX6XktCfJYyF124PgfHhJ7fv7RGpHPDPcijHcn U8VFT0POjbLLVKPGw38m6exISBB7eLbfibf5Y= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ANl7F0X4orqi2P3jXiAnJAUzhSk0lQ4X9zs7WO6WmCU=; b=YGo20acygcUiN3k1jLLd/xMYIMtWf9ckJOyQsjoAjEK8CEjy3XuLaXYMBwHn8eKxZt nyjQbj7kpdgaImdZvsnvQQ6skzX7Rz1vv11GjrLSJeEdYwaP44UFkV5rK0JSUroLwWTe kCom1ABGcUwqofYMWPJqoeryCXMT9izwuJM9SkD31vbl8XjGPgvUaGhyYgaxo8Y5GHm8 Q1Ut3gNRORUpqQ55yKTC2W257ItFjbyCmzNTT1UJWhp88+wNTsO2kz/Tw5KTgUBAiOAD Yy3IWMauMuinBVHkChk1lic05ODWfxkoJr0kFgR0k4VVFKJIkUGubtuxglT/GQqSqZWP li8Q== X-Received: by 10.152.147.103 with SMTP id tj7mr21447060lab.54.1360032545104; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:49:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:48:35 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:48:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: c99 project To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk3rmM4h2+T3QlkAuJ08rwiJCyjLAMm9OkF+PeIxOnJateCr986PVZTKyHllJpC1++xbc5f X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:49:06 -0000 Is the following page still useful? Would there be any objection to me removing it? http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 03:08:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8A0EC9; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 03:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (we-in-x0234.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEDE1A0; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 03:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id k14so5260461wer.25 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:08:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q9hMiToWvFZIIxeSWq2bP2L53FfqA4hRYR1VKKnMXVI=; b=hXYn2dbeY/E9IbdraWZkMTK0otPOYx0/wrE5ApQ0/h6A77cGfTjsAcoDBex2SFTBeK pAIfnpgYbHVsbCwhQ4nELNRTdYQtTHPTjP6a0eS7y6ihWGbMNhL3LhchhFdYRsXQAbO0 Qx8UXcxBq57yy+rnyEIIHC1ovqPI8cn0y0ZWxwTqxHSU1ATe03TpxWCGwAwMS1HvZDrH VF4PyO+Z/S9EnU1fLU+wj8kfharPyDxzKD71zfR/F5GJVeHiETliYN/UQYl4rnNQCrQT iPfSfeTKcIb7rIwLxlRYPNsJNRLZXHBGh7xB4xa1xCvSfpO9EvgwN3fQPlzZyXl9WJOS qWZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.108.101 with SMTP id hj5mr39239819wjb.6.1360033726048; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:08:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.236.88 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:08:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:08:45 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e0nl0aPfDxkfI_VLtfcwDverZNo Message-ID: Subject: Re: c99 project From: Adrian Chadd To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:08:47 -0000 .. is it actually completed? Adrian On 4 February 2013 18:48, Eitan Adler wrote: > Is the following page still useful? > > Would there be any objection to me removing it? > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html > > -- > Eitan Adler > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 03:12:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C60A2BE for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 03:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920AB1DF for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 03:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id gm6so7280569lbb.12 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:12:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=0MJPIS060YVwAdmkhCvCLt4uKdON6pDijpE52rS97E0=; b=HyVZ4lx3Gte8EIJjnlv8vO75WSos0aVTxXj/GDqiSoSqVmo3bmNMKUnUHXjvONWEg+ MaUu6DcKh4ir6Pn2kWAR6Z4AT+d96P8AqyvvHGvzJx6hMg7YZDT23JOcjNzCijt2+Cd3 wfFdfLmgWzf+ndVXwdml2VDJK6Hc46s1rtIvU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=0MJPIS060YVwAdmkhCvCLt4uKdON6pDijpE52rS97E0=; b=F0TTCW76cM2lwUada/4t79Ng1ehXvGqT5zgyDbzAiuyGmADWubfBeokPzMM1rZqzeZ lVuWhZtxUe2DO5wafVN6hOc+C8hDzPUfR7hu3qtoEnqpR+5wTrVMQIhy2DVRwKkVzy94 r13NKw252rhxG6rCyKlgBGeBkyboPDfdSxwK0EEnS/VjDZiXPkyxC68I53hLHrxLMBbd 32Xu5HVOBTR/y2cEstfpiUPDqJGt2v9tEzc9PSTx6AnueDU3TZuj5QmsoDlXW2d3Ms3+ S+Bxut47Tc2h/bg/ENVogFmuPE9RkmuRv8QnhqN+R4+aGlIKWRZm44TPXwMceMFkEVG1 GNGw== X-Received: by 10.112.87.66 with SMTP id v2mr9339396lbz.130.1360033924192; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:12:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:11:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 22:11:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: c99 project To: Adrian Chadd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQngzKG1xLIvIQHYvIGS70mbnmVYJsMUBxRXCmRDtmTIhgUZzYkchMdUQNi2j96ZhgITmrjH Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:12:06 -0000 On 4 February 2013 22:08, Adrian Chadd wrote: > .. is it actually completed? No idea, hence my question ;) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 04:11:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66544FC for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 04:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2193A7 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 04:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id gg6so7299408lbb.13 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:11:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=fu7afLGf0z6ZaOih7yUsT4Ay94PrhlDUriin+t+fjtQ=; b=LKKiqd9kzxsP8CXmOYYMHqOHwApHiNZshyL9ItK2jkhhk+uELTVr71AlYye55iPscf Ww+MOBBwFkFbVGsHkRyFQT6gUVM+vbm6qharj1/zJY2MZiZP4seSJzq412W4oA/tOp4E DVvBAnfCo61TYbUh9aJ40Mxr/N3rBYn+3sQTA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fu7afLGf0z6ZaOih7yUsT4Ay94PrhlDUriin+t+fjtQ=; b=BiCrKdO6d0SX/DHsGPmTYjRo/RM498MolYuADGbqNmskhoHbl/dZz9qxQYyVeyi9zD jxRrCzKL/ZGfDFinLVTcOphb+wFoiNevHS3xvE6zUs5VtBIol4iWTQoQnF8TpkS1Spml 23mUSnem/JX2uHq3RvVaC6Qo0IHU9sL5BRRfMYiHwS5Cc2IkSJ4Ud2sD+GFF9W+MbpKB cIbfjztn8PjQRa9/jaoxE+PDuyrpR3ED5Vyf/A9vus25/pkcme5F5TnRbUsDOlODWwyE 666aLENhq9xo9kKe+AcoBN+0W8bmx8YHRtASKlvzxczT9T/Z7POKCGIBOr2Ei1QQtX1s ynOQ== X-Received: by 10.112.17.137 with SMTP id o9mr9399279lbd.15.1360037484882; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:11:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:10:54 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:10:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: old FAQ location To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlhaDRVWFKl3r/PpO0gjVAX5bul6rnMGbVPEyBKcIFVL1UjcsmvR+CLIkRWoimdxyoH9Q1b X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:11:27 -0000 Does anyone believe we still need to retain the redirect from http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/ ? 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-- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 04:29:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B623412 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 04:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com (mail-lb0-f171.google.com [209.85.217.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D207566D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 04:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id gg13so7170698lbb.2 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:29:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=U5/vFGsOSgPEyQ8pG6dvXVCrKd3vh/BP7w4Dj59pcdU=; b=MLZEbWBMTLrqxetTaLQ6gHeXCzORZjTGKjZpws3AKERPM0aU6ngSdEtF44LFPq5V83 XxKADNPntB2UIYI84ZNrYEiOGj0755JRv9elgtyBeLcPRcMiP+BHjMHneojnBXdV5Gee xWBUpflscJFT2UeqrElLFK7kltuIWc4Xr1/vc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=U5/vFGsOSgPEyQ8pG6dvXVCrKd3vh/BP7w4Dj59pcdU=; b=cY2o6ErJJfVw77sxjt7VPTEhrl67Vk/bHQjC2S2m7gersRUbV/gNE4pCBFmp3uPXfi 1G4nxsBrx+KoFC2Uu4TZAX84T4xou9DCozR11J1hqIMiMsF221tA4kw+G+C5ICfsOah1 eDlIYPru/x8pDUNBO+ScrueV2Bn4pZMrZuRlAWsagFE2B9jqGpgK7Hv28k7o/QoZyIfA 5P1+XhqAiEPK7V2OGKl2yJ/3RZv8jaClyMId+h+atBN9R/2wfi/PiTi67fsjjRdHh/bU JRlj41oA420iZaRaeLkGDIORfYuoCjwrRlE9mVhkgDbZaYrNBeNwxqBoz6FZPeeeGvZd 2dhw== X-Received: by 10.152.106.5 with SMTP id gq5mr21668829lab.5.1360038580298; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:29:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:29:10 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:29:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: todo page To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmmYz0xW97mDammEzkE5NetLdsYovgH+rDsKj/y0kwG1Ihtis0eiN6fRDNM4DntE4HjRsQQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:29:47 -0000 I intend to remove http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/todo.html It is described as "an up-to-date list of documentation issues" here: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html I intend to remove that paragraph too. Any objections? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 08:53:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4010ABC; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5246DF86; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0023814D2507; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:53:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Tl4n7GXsRfdZ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:53:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 601C314D2410; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:53:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5110C878.5080706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:53:12 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: c99 project References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:53:23 -0000 Em 05-02-2013 03:48, Eitan Adler escreveu: > Is the following page still useful? Yes. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 08:55:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E59AC22 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB5AFB5 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C98014D2462; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:55:11 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vLdRcmV_PkJ1; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:55:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EDA714D2410; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:55:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5110C8EF.3080905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:55:11 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: todo page References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:55:12 -0000 Em 05-02-2013 05:29, Eitan Adler escreveu: > I intend to removehttp://www.freebsd.org/docproj/todo.html > > It is described as "an up-to-date list of documentation issues" here: > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html > > I intend to remove that paragraph too. There are still valuable entries there. It should be merged to the wiki ideas list or somewhere else instead of removing. G. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 10:20:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BECFCFA; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f46.google.com (mail-bk0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD476B16; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id j5so3184823bkw.5 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:20:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=CfkkPkUa9nKXz0DJK0G3mwH9Jm64sbNLpmXcSq83Yag=; b=diMj7FjM6nLxZ4G9QyIFt+1M4SKmMuCOXo5kkOvg6+9Z2HxYR4ioBnucZhW9HEsHoe Fd7ZwZYrdQXXroTzxXZX2tuhNLvFORI+kQETR3GskYhpN3+Nx9Gzumdl9sP5TUvQJVGn ChBqiB4NNwut2nb3aTBNQLB+njJR+Mcg6uc7Ahfr5T78esE24GCXUgrO/5PqQUoZqiMV S75hnyzONsp5JnUGdo8RhAp5BlE2nT2zYzZbAhnFfREm2GBAb4FaRPR18bc5jcf5RqYI 0Yreo9ZcmEM05HKgxc3o+DcHHbmeX7L6HYn/SYteJlJTVWpSULfIDJUv2pTc1DHP6wbX 2dQA== X-Received: by 10.204.147.143 with SMTP id l15mr6478527bkv.28.1360059638440; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x18sm2233710bkw.4.2013.02.05.02.20.37 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:20:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:20:35 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: RFC: Dealing with version-specific docs Message-ID: <20130205102033.GA28045@saturn> References: <51065CFC.5090803@FreeBSD.org> <20130204041717.GA68155@kobe> <510F7E82.9000708@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <510F7E82.9000708@FreeBSD.org> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:20:45 -0000 On 2013-02-04 10:25, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: >Em 04-02-2013 05:17, Giorgos Keramidas escreveu: >> I like the use of os= attributes, but I feel a bit at odds with the >> requirement to duplicate version information in the XML attribute*and* >> the contained text, e.g.: >> >> To do foobar on &os; 8.X, type bar. >> >> To do foobar on &os; 9.X, type baz. >> >> We are typing version numbers twice here, and this introduces both the >> possibility for error and the chance for missing important mismatches in >> XML attributes vs. actual text. >> >> Is there any way we can avoid typing the version numbers twice? > > Theoretically, we could render the marked sections differently and > then it would not require duplicated information. But in practice, > this requires heavy customization of our build process. We have to > customize different things: > > - The XSLT stylesheets used for XHTML output. This is quite easy, I > can do it without problems. > > - Either we keep using Jade for PS/PDF generation and then we have > to customize the DSSSL stylesheets. DSSSL is a dead and badly > documented standard and I practically don't know anything about it > so we need to find someone, who is willing to do it. It is not easy > because it never became widely used and there is no free reference > or documentation about it. It also raises the question whether it is > worth investing time and effort in something that is so outdated. > > - Or we allow Java dependency just for the printed output formats > (XHTML would still be generated without Java) and then we need to do > the customizations in XSLT/XSL FO, which is much easier and I can do > it myself. I think it's a worthy goal to avoid the huge size of Java dependency for a while, and I've seen that there are efforts to write alternatives to tools like Saxon. For example there was a time that I saw even xmlroff being discussed for PDF output. I don't recall right now if it was you, Gabor, that brought xmlroff to my attention. Modernizing the entire toolchain behind textproc/docproj is a large project though. It may require a great upfront investment of time and effort. So I'm not sure if it makes sense to gate other work on this being completed first. If we can do our work with the current tools, even if it means we have a bit of duplication like the one you proposed, I think we should go for this instead of going the Java way. Then if we can find a PDF output toolchain better than DSSSL (for values of 'better' like 'more modern', 'easier to grok', 'faster' or some other possibility) we can adapt the tools later. > I mentioned these problems at EuroBSDCon but people were quite > reluctant about the Java dependency even though the XHTML part would > still work without Java. I think that I have to raise this issue > again. I've been working on improving the doc tree to use up to date > and better standards than the earlier ones and now I have a branch > with some important updates. I've maintained compatibility with Jade > but sooner or later we'll have to move away from it. The trivial way > is using Fop (a Java-based XSL FO renderer), which all other open > source projects do that use XML-based documentation. > Some people suggested generating PDF from XHTML which imho is a bad > option since XHTML is not a paper-oriented markup so we loose features > in that way, so I don't believe in its success and I'm not really > willing to work on botches. Now I'll bring the tree technologically up > to date until the point where we can avoid Java but then we will have > to choose how to go beyond. XHTML is definitely a very bad option as an intermediate format for PDF output. PDF has all these typographically appealing capabilities that we instantly lose just by going through XHTML. It would make more sense to transform docbook-xml to some other intermediate format, e.g. even plain LaTeX, or even to explore the possibility of using ConTeXt for XML->PDF output: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/XML I admit I have only done very simple things with ConTeXt and XML, so it's probably a wild idea. I'm just mentioning it as a more output-quality oriented way of producing PDF output, instead of losing pretty much everything in an XHTML temporary stage. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 10:35:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ED61C4; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D347CCB2; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j10so3171870bkw.26 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:35:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=UgyGzeF1PcrG30wWgQPgWmyVx/u9ig1RMr/V6UJcmLo=; b=N0yjmidDo2OMHdusTGexthfp6c3RvvCAxkiKp3cugQGHMhC1imiFkxkpVBaqvH8UiX fx+SMncXWljNdH/MJe7Re6bx0qbJwq2vLmUA1ICHcP4tPrEwytNBnFikmtAgz0OWHE9Q /ooX9jyrzraHfqJskK/ljGwraqFziATPCP+F50MvIQ59Vgct1Djc3p3X2jmVoyA+xhP4 GCNn1iCJ9PHMJ1N2MD+TaGliI7QVtZywmObYRuMbfHrDF2JbOwIqbxKeKrjz3nqB3vN9 E0MarbSn+kbiMZZjfHji3s9U2JcG7KgH+LncOC7f7zEgOlLV8apfi1Zy+tfVRQd3/gYm C4og== X-Received: by 10.204.149.140 with SMTP id t12mr1251949bkv.123.1360060513298; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r17sm6252748bkw.21.2013.02.05.02.35.12 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:35:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:35:10 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: c99 project Message-ID: <20130205103509.GB28045@saturn> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:35:20 -0000 On 2013-02-04 21:48, Eitan Adler wrote: > Is the following page still useful? > Would there be any objection to me removing it? > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html I think this is useful until we have full C99 support in at least one compiler toolchain. To the best of my knowledge this is not entirely true for either GCC or LLVM. So we should keep the page alive, until the project is done or canceled. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 11:03:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB078BE; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9096E23; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E750514D2436; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:03:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id p8MvhSUNvj6l; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:03:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E2BB14D2410; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:03:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5110E702.2040201@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:03:30 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: RFC: Dealing with version-specific docs References: <51065CFC.5090803@FreeBSD.org> <20130204041717.GA68155@kobe> <510F7E82.9000708@FreeBSD.org> <20130205102033.GA28045@saturn> In-Reply-To: <20130205102033.GA28045@saturn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 11:03:37 -0000 Em 05-02-2013 11:20, Giorgos Keramidas escreveu: > I think it's a worthy goal to avoid the huge size of Java dependency for > a while, and I've seen that there are efforts to write alternatives to > tools like Saxon. For example there was a time that I saw even xmlroff > being discussed for PDF output. I don't recall right now if it was you, > Gabor, that brought xmlroff to my attention. It was me and that time xmlroff wasn't mature enough and it isn't actively developed since then so no changes there... But yes, it is one alternative and if someone could work on improving it (maybe with some support from the Foundation), that would be a nice option. But typesetting is a very specific field so developing an XSL FO renderer is not a trivial work. > > Modernizing the entire toolchain behind textproc/docproj is a large > project though. It may require a great upfront investment of time and > effort. So I'm not sure if it makes sense to gate other work on this > being completed first. > > If we can do our work with the current tools, even if it means we have a > bit of duplication like the one you proposed, I think we should go for > this instead of going the Java way. Then if we can find a PDF output > toolchain better than DSSSL (for values of 'better' like 'more modern', > 'easier to grok', 'faster' or some other possibility) we can adapt the > tools later. FOP is already better, it generates modern output where you don't feel that typewriter feeling that you feel with our current PDF docs. :) It also generates significantly smaller files, yet the generation is slower and more resource intensive but this factor nowadays is probably not that important since PDF isn't generated with that frequency as XHTML. > >> >I mentioned these problems at EuroBSDCon but people were quite >> >reluctant about the Java dependency even though the XHTML part would >> >still work without Java. I think that I have to raise this issue >> >again. I've been working on improving the doc tree to use up to date >> >and better standards than the earlier ones and now I have a branch >> >with some important updates. I've maintained compatibility with Jade >> >but sooner or later we'll have to move away from it. The trivial way >> >is using Fop (a Java-based XSL FO renderer), which all other open >> >source projects do that use XML-based documentation. >> >Some people suggested generating PDF from XHTML which imho is a bad >> >option since XHTML is not a paper-oriented markup so we loose features >> >in that way, so I don't believe in its success and I'm not really >> >willing to work on botches. Now I'll bring the tree technologically up >> >to date until the point where we can avoid Java but then we will have >> >to choose how to go beyond. > XHTML is definitely a very bad option as an intermediate format for PDF > output. PDF has all these typographically appealing capabilities that > we instantly lose just by going through XHTML. It would make more sense > to transform docbook-xml to some other intermediate format, e.g. even > plain LaTeX, People say Java is heavy-weight but isn't LaTeX almost as heavy? Besides, we have good Java support but we cannot affirm the same about LaTeX. TeXLive is still not officially supported in ports/packages, which is quite a big problem. I've also thought of a possible LaTeX conversion but this is also problematic because of the lack of support and the big dependency. Besides, the XSLT stylesheets have been developed for several years and it raises the question if we can develop high quality LaTeX stylesheets in a reasonable timeframe if people have been working on other format for various years? > or even to explore the possibility of using ConTeXt for > XML->PDF output: > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/XML > > I admit I have only done very simple things with ConTeXt and XML, so > it's probably a wild idea. I'm just mentioning it as a more > output-quality oriented way of producing PDF output, instead of losing > pretty much everything in an XHTML temporary stage. I didn't know this but will take a look, thanks! Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 14:38:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A6470D for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2048D6E for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q12so281464lbc.11 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 06:38:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=EAlfoB6eloeFuyIBdmQ9Tq/ccjIsF4oHyNWYzt9lhg8=; b=ZNu9DOGzjcuBDFX+n0CevsyGMNGv8z4/onqlLUakDsm+VNIN455un7eO3tF4eoCbQh mURja3Y8rwgcIQePOEmPui/1dVDejVCRI72a4JP1oVhBS+J5+z9Il9rmCtDr/y885ngY As5zt6gTOQYu9I8+WPHs6p2KswMVN+SIrVBZk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=EAlfoB6eloeFuyIBdmQ9Tq/ccjIsF4oHyNWYzt9lhg8=; b=FsY4VgjTncwfhL/BFQ7v7hf3RhlikDiP8hJOxd+ejcKfRKObWKngG0YZzlX4m5qaKl B0ySo2lnSoWD0KY5hss7VPbG/p0FJaO2AVjrGap7t9n5V05YDLNsUiVp18z4DXggR81s aG1o9rKwgvCOccRJcv6Id2p47QHQtfNRbb7NClCr2cDUmwcwuzZIbmLhtYX2LEmO5knI lP+BNdd3vWxd7GL4ICR5AjzYMRSszIRCA9Sl8RLJih4rY/0qVvt1EJ8O9X1I4YrTasJa Tppbsmv8/VISOjpDuZHeWRUkHibYcvvxsRRoO7aGprt8ftKaGgoGdyudfMKhbKcmPEFI 3s6Q== X-Received: by 10.152.106.5 with SMTP id gq5mr23317206lab.5.1360075137294; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 06:38:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:38:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5110C8EF.3080905@FreeBSD.org> References: <5110C8EF.3080905@FreeBSD.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:38:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: todo page To: Gabor Kovesdan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmfeDB0UiDC7tjEvg2tTOxOA/l7z0Au3jlGJlONFrqLLumN6VBiIHyDGMF+aHi9xIFOF4nb Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:38:59 -0000 On 5 February 2013 03:55, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 05-02-2013 05:29, Eitan Adler escreveu: >> >> I intend to removehttp://www.freebsd.org/docproj/todo.html >> >> >> It is described as "an up-to-date list of documentation issues" here: >> http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html >> >> I intend to remove that paragraph too. > > There are still valuable entries there. It should be merged to the wiki > ideas list or somewhere else instead of removing. Handbook is covered by PublishedFormat FAQ is covered by ThwackAFAQ This page talks about 5.x as if we still care. Which ideas are valuable? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 15:01:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F69329; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryusuke@FreeBSD.org) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [IPv6:2001:218:422:1::15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B502EC8; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6p2+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id r15F1AR91545; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 00:01:10 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ryusuke@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:01:04 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20130206.000104.193782451.ryusuke@jp.FreeBSD.org> To: lists@eitanadler.com Subject: Re: todo page From: Ryusuke SUZUKI In-Reply-To: References: <5110C8EF.3080905@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.1 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Wed_Feb__6_00_01_04_2013_453)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, gabor@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:01:15 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Feb__6_00_01_04_2013_453)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: todo page Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:38:27 -0500 > On 5 February 2013 03:55, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > > Em 05-02-2013 05:29, Eitan Adler escreveu: > >> > >> I intend to removehttp://www.freebsd.org/docproj/todo.html > >> > >> > >> It is described as "an up-to-date list of documentation issues" here: > >> http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html > >> > >> I intend to remove that paragraph too. > > > > There are still valuable entries there. It should be merged to the wiki > > ideas list or somewhere else instead of removing. > > Handbook is covered by PublishedFormat > FAQ is covered by ThwackAFAQ > > This page talks about 5.x as if we still care. > > Which ideas are valuable? As far as I know, gjb is the person responsible for converting docproj/todo.html to the DocIdeaList. ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Feb__6_00_01_04_2013_453)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlERHrAACgkQG5rRvmPSlyS5rACgglzBbN48ODDsb27UBis6th7V n0kAoKvywlyLr1lrOX08SfqsA4Zie7c5 =BPht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Wed_Feb__6_00_01_04_2013_453)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 15:49:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42D929B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFA9251 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9304F14D2436; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:49:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pACqMOBVoEvy; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:49:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C82614D2410; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:49:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <51112A02.1000009@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:49:22 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: todo page References: <5110C8EF.3080905@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:49:24 -0000 Em 05-02-2013 15:38, Eitan Adler escreveu: > On 5 February 2013 03:55, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: >> >Em 05-02-2013 05:29, Eitan Adler escreveu: >>> >> >>> >>I intend to removehttp://www.freebsd.org/docproj/todo.html >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>It is described as "an up-to-date list of documentation issues" here: >>> >>http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html >>> >> >>> >>I intend to remove that paragraph too. >> > >> >There are still valuable entries there. It should be merged to the wiki >> >ideas list or somewhere else instead of removing. > Handbook is covered by PublishedFormat > FAQ is covered by ThwackAFAQ > > This page talks about 5.x as if we still care. > > Which ideas are valuable? Is the installation chapter up to date? Do we have a printer setup example? Are USB printers also covered? And what about USB audio? Are all of the mentioned manual pages completed? These should all be checked before removing these items. The fact that they were not completed for the initial deadline (5.X) which passed a long time ago, does not mean they should never be completed. For example, arch-handbook still lacks content. The website rendering issue may still persist since there hasn't been any layout change since then. But you could remove the "Done" items since they are no use any more. Also, the toolchain items are also done despite not marked as such. The rest should only be removed if properly verified. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 16:41:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD59775F for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (la-in-x0232.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EFF7F1 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 16:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so381823lab.37 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:41:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=lCQdJ8pJo8DLdVXSQH2Syouzq4kfGuFCx+wGB/ZsMn4=; b=IK5OLcc5mhfTSJvMLo2IEmZ+Wo21creCx3s4O2Tl0dIJ2k5jTthEMIjf/F1Jp3ZMAR 7xLVkFRt5jEQa16FQyPj5j0hJDlUDGtDTVUfZqnQxjoVY+dyxyectgUPBluGnkL6ze6c vIhzPJhwOCRKVCoYkN/aXuTC78Z1u4PIVXa/8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=lCQdJ8pJo8DLdVXSQH2Syouzq4kfGuFCx+wGB/ZsMn4=; b=B8n4YGm+zlkb/2aKLzz1fNeRRscUrDrx2mLQrVWv0pg+wgP4D9yqqAJt9YOo3+fg8F d7fDFDMmcv1TPXID7fB3ag6AnFSS0io0XzOUaKtjcQgp7buGnEhJuKbu8AcT8IAVet5M GCoYLY6stA3tv0k5MdGKlmUlVKhSKFM5xqJGtNGrZg7NoSZqBhPiCvDcT1N8/v3Ncxx+ u4Ba3UGCzyVOu1mmLDsduLHN/XCuWUEp1Hp4SZ5JqTBnD/EX1U/En8I+sJ16BriRJK1H eW9Hmwj3ViylZ0n9QJff93D+EwLUjuEM4OwrO6o/ge0bFU4sWMNHVYXUKtZ/brfozZEx G6RQ== X-Received: by 10.112.87.66 with SMTP id v2mr10305572lbz.130.1360082507861; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:41:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 08:41:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51112A02.1000009@FreeBSD.org> References: <5110C8EF.3080905@FreeBSD.org> <51112A02.1000009@FreeBSD.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: todo page To: Gabor Kovesdan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmSFLr5ePhoMMpMT6uP8Ob+Fy/v2PLCJPSAW8wqNbRwgxw5sChuPP5cli1jvx1Pj4cLseET Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:41:49 -0000 On 5 February 2013 10:49, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Em 05-02-2013 15:38, Eitan Adler escreveu: > >> On 5 February 2013 03:55, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: >>> >>> >Em 05-02-2013 05:29, Eitan Adler escreveu: >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>I intend to removehttp://www.freebsd.org/docproj/todo.html >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>It is described as "an up-to-date list of documentation issues" here: >>>> >>http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html >>>> >> >>>> >>I intend to remove that paragraph too. >>> >>> > >>> >There are still valuable entries there. It should be merged to the wiki >>> >ideas list or somewhere else instead of removing. >> >> Handbook is covered by PublishedFormat >> FAQ is covered by ThwackAFAQ >> >> This page talks about 5.x as if we still care. >> >> Which ideas are valuable? > > Is the installation chapter up to date? Do we have a printer setup example? > Are USB printers also covered? And what about USB audio? Are all of the > mentioned manual pages completed? These should all be checked before > removing these items. The fact that they were not completed for the initial > deadline (5.X) which passed a long time ago, does not mean they should never > be completed. For example, arch-handbook still lacks content. The website > rendering issue may still persist since there hasn't been any layout change > since then. But you could remove the "Done" items since they are no use any > more. Also, the toolchain items are also done despite not marked as such. > The rest should only be removed if properly verified. All such ideas are already listed here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/DocIdeaList -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 17:01:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1449A742 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D05943 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pakbsde14.localnet (unknown [38.105.238.108]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F0FFB91E; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:01:36 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netperf project page Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:50:25 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p22; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201302051150.25556.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:01:36 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:01:37 -0000 On Monday, February 04, 2013 9:45:19 pm Eitan Adler wrote: > Is the following page still useful? > > Is there any objection if I remove it? > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/netperf/index.html You need to be e-mailing the correct people. doc@ is not the correct people for these e-mails. For netperf I'd ask gnn@ and rwatson@. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 17:01:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DAD748 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A94945 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pakbsde14.localnet (unknown [38.105.238.108]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BDADB946; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smpng project Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:52:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110714-p22; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201302051152.48013.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:01:41 -0000 On Monday, February 04, 2013 9:46:52 pm Eitan Adler wrote: > Is the following page useful? > > Would there be any objection to removing it? > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/busdma/index.html Hmmm, it needs some updating, but it is possibly still useful. It would probably work better as a wiki page. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 17:06:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0379A4 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (mail-lb0-f173.google.com [209.85.217.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8832987 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id gf7so415152lbb.32 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:06:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=SAv8QKudPJ3PyrBWbXYC1r4JKuDb4ew2H2XXPRdilEg=; b=JrfQPaylI+yk2d2uNtCmaOL1sJe/psFGhpNo/favqmg+an1+1vLO+6fRlH1VfNboCt nz8tA/Y2VkjD/mR1laLKJRDS39sJFG68so8lPoWkMBDEc+CBQ8rxqVqSvvzQDPrHAsR2 sHlM6IXU+oEv5nSGKgkwGydyZu+dt+W/EC+wc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=SAv8QKudPJ3PyrBWbXYC1r4JKuDb4ew2H2XXPRdilEg=; b=nEQr5OCWxfcT1AsfVluypZravl6JtKjVvUMENTZksCrIacdaptOuByFcvzlaDWgcU4 n1q/W14AQyEHzNOCtwx9vOEu4WJIyczMfooFmsSV7LByj8pWktg0bYyk1L0r7fzFI5df UjZtPOcq2NwAbiGYJTSoZvaHRsMAMCcAkgXsO6EP0MQkthmpRsRvmYpIMpGmr23WN8mC mKSpPHMa9aRBSgkCZsJb6UNPyi9NdZZpegQfBtar24VQYg+DAvLLu8L9TNBaJk7I+qDh ZDwGiooOfNk8ulizkq63PY+sxsAiv36Lxbm8JH190RAAswhX0NuobGW4iFdSoBNgtA3V yXaw== X-Received: by 10.152.109.146 with SMTP id hs18mr23783301lab.8.1360083995603; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:06:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:06:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201302051150.25556.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <201302051150.25556.jhb@freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:06:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: netperf project page To: John Baldwin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmDT8RN/Gq0QhaRTHNWOK7tTPPEZmW6nuL37LdiyU2ls+PtG7FlfNA3jYIXJEyy9g/+QiJc Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:06:37 -0000 On 5 February 2013 11:50, John Baldwin wrote: > On Monday, February 04, 2013 9:45:19 pm Eitan Adler wrote: >> Is the following page still useful? >> >> Is there any objection if I remove it? >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/netperf/index.html > > You need to be e-mailing the correct people. doc@ is not the correct people > for these e-mails. For netperf I'd ask gnn@ and rwatson@. I CCed hackers@ for a couple of them which it made sense to do so. I wasn't sure who to email for this one. I've forwarded the mail to rwatson/gnn. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 17:11:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0359B47; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hammer.pct.niksun.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334A89D5; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51113CEC.4060301@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:10:04 -0500 From: Jung-uk Kim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130128 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: FreeBSD acpi project References: <201301290928.03346.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:11:37 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-02-04 21:44:08 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 29 January 2013 09:28, John Baldwin wrote: >> On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:55:22 pm Eitan Adler wrote: >>> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/acpi/ >>> >>> Is this still active? >>> >>> Should the page be removed? >> >> It is stale and needs updating, but some of the todo things are >> legitimate. It should probably move to the wiki however. Agreed. >> Perhaps Jung-uk Kim (cc'd) is interested in doing that? Unfortunately, I am pretty busy ATM. Maybe Andriy Gapon (cc'd) can help me out here? > *prod* Sorry for the late reply, Jung-uk Kim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRETzrAAoJECXpabHZMqHOoF8IAIIpHGMYycQEx7lOQbmey7ZJ eVUIHZU/qVbCo6e6sCQQKFGO1u9jFOoJsFiZz6ES31Q6Fv1nLztLawqEBliv43nY CrJPnbhjvx0ehLo3Pxx/ip9YWZbqSzTYwdVMZn3ZP1j5tC5LuKQkfzX6jqJgVKzQ ekF6s7MK4kV/KtvU2LMDrm85nzr00L2xzNKKIY+N41YzkIR0uYWY81Frm4AULO8V vI7u3tVX4j53qXEi7RI7PBvNDwLe8JEPsXGcLbZGJ5LuLRBv0MwAfrLJsvAaV+dm /f8jmiyICzY+XmRA3Zbq66pTRbTopJsuZcl8zMq6fUBXI8bMzGIEHRJPU223BOY= =N9RS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 17:33:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B62B72F for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6893B38 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fj20so445910lab.34 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=XiMIYRSOHJV2DGc09uZXV0ZRrwfx4UVFsl7L7HqL/To=; b=kq2MX6fm9bDhh8tzAemUN001JRLpuBkg8W2BsvZqVI4xbDulUvV34z72wQNTmgo6Le Vg+/2IxoEN1Y/LNNcLWQPYkHXYo2jrH7g7l5xMJD4irwd6/1XDyK8R/4fs08yCd8STtr 8kcrJkylhCQzZUepKugXXBP/WliyQn1Wn4hBo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=XiMIYRSOHJV2DGc09uZXV0ZRrwfx4UVFsl7L7HqL/To=; b=Vt97/6BG3nA1pCaM6ftJndAddsTQPHD8uA35w0AfIsINs9S+CSHhFHYIo7naL/RBmB voUhLll+K9AjtiRCdSF4l1oYEMzO/ENhse3d/wF79ProYQmHqjIMZHFEkYGWo1LdPmHH lx4rcRgebOJKvkLkcsCLzp2qgzM/fVabFPYoa30SVGHWhCvxcXZIpmHEAKF9A1Do9ANJ YIiBp+TBkg2SHimpswusdED89Pf3ZAph+qdgBHZNg9oW+pVVxPWWn+I2XCtR2Z34i/rE iZQlFMgu59BvQBlLMV3ujar+WOr2ayDHXQUeLdAgMy66x7qAPtbYhUR9rpITzDVciu/8 JhHQ== X-Received: by 10.112.51.175 with SMTP id l15mr9891654lbo.5.1360085635659; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:33:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:33:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Documenting snapshots To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmXIfv4m1N8vsTeKuvX2shU+dIeRirpL78lFRn7/xTkI7795MPy8nHLqmWfWzEeNRVWJXIk X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:33:57 -0000 On 26 January 2013 13:54, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hey all, > > The questions release-freq, where-get, define-snap-release in the FAQ > all mention releases or snapshots and need to be updated for a modern > version of the question. > > Can someone please take a stab at these? I'm willing to commit patches, but it is impossible for me to write all the FAQ documentation. Can someone ("you") please take a look? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 00:25:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3DE324 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 00:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B60B11D for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 00:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id m4so736401lbo.14 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:25:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jwVl2H8KN8qj60FBVvXk7cuThWKRXnQFQGcr+XVNdtE=; b=LFuPYcURYkM8E4O/cztZWnJ8KARpgnuy387M82zUqOkP3e6qVaHvhJdbxfS6MJHX1q 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freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnP7Qf6YXCOlsGm5zfa8Rt+6HP7iDvRSxINzKWc62X6t24qFCQvH8BMbKlCiwtyNsffFhCV X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:25:10 -0000 It would be very helpful if you could write a patch to fix these: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/marcel@FreeBSD.org ( parent page: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/announce.html ) http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.4R/marcel@FreeBSD.org ( parent page: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.4R/announce.html ) http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.3R/nyan@FreeBSD.org ( parent page: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.3R/announce.html ) http://www.freebsd.org/es/support/bugreports.html ( parent page: http://www.freebsd.org/es/ ) http://www.freebsd.org/es/events/ ( parent page: 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http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/announce.html ) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 08:10:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F8EBFE; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-f176.google.com (mail-ea0-f176.google.com [209.85.215.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F8C69B; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f176.google.com with SMTP id a13so475601eaa.21 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:09:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=srFr1qA5LsGabtU0cm3xRnt0AsSv4Pu5E4h87qgxKJM=; b=X3X7J6C9Qyux3Q1Ph00gniKLiBUJI/lGCEJN4w7GC6fbOLIDZGt6Vq5PUnfoX5nIlp 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list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:10:07 -0000 On 2013-02-05 12:33, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 26 January 2013 13:54, Eitan Adler wrote: > > Hey all, > > The questions release-freq, where-get, define-snap-release in the FAQ > > all mention releases or snapshots and need to be updated for a modern > > version of the question. > > > > Can someone please take a stab at these? > > I'm willing to commit patches, but it is impossible for me to write > all the FAQ documentation. > > Can someone ("you") please take a look? I remember that gjb has a snapshot setup with regularly updated images. The snapshot images are live at: https://snapshots.glenbarber.us/Latest/ Maybe you should get at least Glen to review the questions and see if he wants something written for them. I can help with writing the necessary patches, but we should loop gjb into this, as I suspect his knowledge of what the currently 'official' snapshot setup looks like is more current. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 13:11:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3331D4F0; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042E68E5; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id PAA16328; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:11:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <51125675.5000205@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:11:17 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130206 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jung-uk Kim Subject: Re: FreeBSD acpi project References: <201301290928.03346.jhb@freebsd.org> <51113CEC.4060301@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51113CEC.4060301@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:11:21 -0000 on 05/02/2013 19:10 Jung-uk Kim said the following: > Unfortunately, I am pretty busy ATM. Maybe Andriy Gapon (cc'd) can > help me out here? My plate seems to be full, figuratively speaking, at the moment. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 17:52:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931EBAB4; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3FADBF; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (75-146-225-65-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [75.146.225.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BD0123F669; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:52:20 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 onyx.glenbarber.us 4BD0123F669 Authentication-Results: onyx.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:52:19 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Documenting snapshots Message-ID: <20130206175219.GA24622@glenbarber.us> References: <20130206080954.GA12602@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130206080954.GA12602@saturn> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:52:22 -0000 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:09:55AM +0100, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2013-02-05 12:33, Eitan Adler wrote: > > On 26 January 2013 13:54, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > The questions release-freq, where-get, define-snap-release in the FAQ > > > all mention releases or snapshots and need to be updated for a modern > > > version of the question. > > > > > > Can someone please take a stab at these? > > > > I'm willing to commit patches, but it is impossible for me to write > > all the FAQ documentation. > > > > Can someone ("you") please take a look? >=20 > I remember that gjb has a snapshot setup with regularly updated images. > The snapshot images are live at: https://snapshots.glenbarber.us/Latest/ >=20 The snapshots produced that are available there are also available from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/. I do not understand what the "modern version of the question" is. I did update the ancient bits I found when snapshots were again available from FreeBSD.org. If something is still outdated, I'll need specifics. Glen --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJREphTAAoJEFJPDDeguUajZaYH/0/R+35VQY+cmt4Uo+Y4PnQY d3kpij1s63ZG3yHfx/yVA+3/S7EDQPZFsiYnjO7gzNy788LTR/Yip9zpd9rkJdTD nbEeyJWW0ZBbwN51I13IJ7lF8Kvqfd+tMD7xz99aRKl7cUyID6b2mHC0O17mNNu9 WBp/Jjf/h1SLxjHyePMxSQgUqsZn1EOCV4r/w8hczU20le50VvFGP4zNDlDXHAoq WojCKk0xbjI002Q/0TyXjQ4haC8A699oSsDvgLafzQnqQu/BmrLgq7j+dgAnj7Ck ZOXSKqVegOGJZfNXADpQiJFXuoy+cdVhjdQm3mMGqp5DTh03emGkd8//o5G7Iss= =xfv8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 18:05:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB942CE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 18:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (la-in-x022d.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637E8E97 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 18:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id er20so1707323lab.32 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:05:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8QIra3fqsJaBSYJ3s9Kat9s3WGl6udzvIcBDm7hVbUM=; b=cOIqkByfk+2w3YouBiCJHH1fbCDKjqk7oX8mr/X/biSsLjOWTK7RwzMUECdH922ZNr lNagO3PQCahDWn69MgoTDBHf7k/4HWpwzZgv443a9kiZ+dgI1m7AfEGdaoxTzS84xm77 v1xlR7X3XAOzq/5hmZWyRf6CSJ5fw+wY0A25w= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=8QIra3fqsJaBSYJ3s9Kat9s3WGl6udzvIcBDm7hVbUM=; b=UEs+SCk83W6KuSwvkxozXPPR53zC2HKVJnnPDE+rg+gOQ5+1rDDyoMxzm9fkAbNTvY KHFNBqjHl4+9WqttUEyI+aYrxXWyTxKF/ZcfVoWXtxRXjYSESZz+lR3EAJ/N61aNxpAk 9JwahzeIfOGG2NXHnou2Tq37WMVqssI0anQByLZ0ydDT7UDX52JQCcJSMErTMY1xyUb5 yfChb7sKifoitOZ+B15TDbrJhGNFh1YO0X+HLKnyqQxOlVqXo/+4SqTMyHxCSRCjwWxh Dc7dB0zvA845Zin1vFNhIW4h0zC56xeFetP78q3xwYOa5sANq7eNvsI+ukrl37U5g1/m ko/w== X-Received: by 10.152.109.146 with SMTP id hs18mr27590687lab.8.1360173943870; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:05:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:05:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130206175219.GA24622@glenbarber.us> References: <20130206080954.GA12602@saturn> <20130206175219.GA24622@glenbarber.us> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:05:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Documenting snapshots To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlHXD++FBJ3nh7DfT3ziVp0WWRG0F2+p28XzxKURxX/lfBj+DbJ+EwyJRUuH+a5HOgk3TGu Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:05:45 -0000 On 6 February 2013 12:52, Glen Barber wrote: > I do not understand what the "modern version of the question" is. I did > update the ancient bits I found when snapshots were again available from > FreeBSD.org. If something is still outdated, I'll need specifics. - How often are they generated? Some say daily, some say monthly. - Who generates them? IIRC some mentioned allbsd, others mentioned re@ In general can you review the question for correctness? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 01:00:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FC25BE for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 01:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A208C894 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 01:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r17100TV063500 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 01:00:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r17100T7063499; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 01:00:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 01:00:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201302070100.r17100T7063499@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joe Barbish Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D498E58C for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 00:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC81D880 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 00:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r170w6ol063622 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 00:58:06 GMT (envelope-from nobody@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r170w6u5063621; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 00:58:06 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201302070058.r170w6u5063621@red.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 00:58:06 GMT From: Joe Barbish To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Subject: docs/175907: handbook section 16.6.1.1 Warning message update X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 01:00:00 -0000 >Number: 175907 >Category: docs >Synopsis: handbook section 16.6.1.1 Warning message update >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Feb 07 01:00:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joe Barbish >Release: 9.1-RELEASE >Organization: none >Environment: >Description: Following the first paragraph is a pink box which says this Warning: This setup requires advanced experience with FreeBSD and usage of its features. If the presented steps below look too complicated, it is advised to take a look at a simpler system such as sysutils/ezjail, which provides an easier method of administering FreeBSD jails and is not as sophisticated as this setup. Change it to read this. Warning: This setup requires advanced experience with FreeBSD and usage of its features. If the presented steps below look too complicated, it is advised to take a look at a simpler system such as sysutils/ezjail or sysutils/qjail which provides an easier method of administering FreeBSD jails and is not as sophisticated as this setup. Qjail is ezjail grownup. It basic functions are identical to ezjail but qjail has been continually enhanced and has far superior documentation. Since you mention ezjail in this warning qjail should also be mentioned. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 04:04:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DCFEBA for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 04:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ddwood@highdensity.org) Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86419F48 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 04:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e20so983546dak.28 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:04:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent:x-gm-message-state; bh=ZxqC7q0ZTppED1o4xPVOwrAvJd7WslFQG8/WojI4MG4=; b=VEnDSZ4mj5+B8/yJXtuTqbsH0KoZPo80Se1NmbQDCmFMUPtKguP3v6hjdvDKgSiotk fxzDYIeiD1uI57p19ccs+o0RDu64KjX3gQOf1WZ3a3n5zggZbNORs43DnghJzIyhl948 JWKXQK48J+e1Qc9wOk8eNZh5EDLnshCKe0QIaN7GoxJ5wQBlRJ7gIXimjEk5K9HaGJBc Sh0jkxgIYyAQMlWHNmOYx9VnohFEIwykIkF0VhCl8VeYbAL5qBZ8G/H5CAn61YmOJGj8 0e03b/+0/93h7wDnukBSYCSh7Zn5jlyesJVRanYrPpz7Js+2uTb0G8com2+7zJrugIdb ODfA== X-Received: by 10.66.79.231 with SMTP id m7mr1196273pax.76.1360209865082; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from yavin (ip68-231-151-161.tc.ph.cox.net. [68.231.151.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d1sm42569707pav.6.2013.02.06.20.04.22 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:04:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 21:04:17 -0700 From: Derek Wood To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: old FAQ location Message-ID: <20130207040417.GA8868@yavin> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnZ+WEvFoviyW1/mqdHRhPGe2aFaZ97pOLJY1ZyI6dnt8eB81pJ1y9U1QkAE52LppweVk3p X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:04:31 -0000 On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 11:10:54PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > Does anyone believe we still need to retain the redirect from > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/ ? > > -- > Eitan Adler > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Can it be made context-insensitive and the redirect transparent? The short handbook redirect is useful in IRC and conversation, and if this FAQ redirect was less unwieldy it would be equally useful. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 04:19:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE54F85 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 04:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CFFF97 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 04:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id l12so1806438lbo.19 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:19:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=wSRneV5wblpPJay+SrKrt/AUJLoVWLfwVg/yRncqTE0=; b=EnbBYwqUzIOo/4Xurqv94wDesYPOXRKCh+nEYHrPp5HjJVToz8RWzXNsZztGJZPEFK IQm/2Qpjs+5F667/RHSdJhZGi65uWEsMj10x71IiaREGvJ4iOAVD0X9nsgOKhm576eM+ gscVu2LJne6y86IHbCrnDdV/o3CswtF4RJdzw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=wSRneV5wblpPJay+SrKrt/AUJLoVWLfwVg/yRncqTE0=; b=OehDqYNqu/unsoSZU3pMA9wCxhqaQiHGVsLIU2/ByIBsxU9/muK/fuHECtISW+H2UY bHN3qCduYbRYqum9ZwOrTNw6UdisUEOFAap7wdqQzVwiGmFX7VJq7LdqskN04xznrW8m kE7ytszhG+LAghXAKjldTxaB/rD2bd2GbKtXTOh0UYV2FX9/6znneRcvP413cFfM9vCF DxdYPJ8MM1EoWGoQQJb75Pqf/T8BEIk0CF5JIiMw/MsSkE0OQR2o+1M8hE6d+nJhdv3s Wq4EYl2hO8ycuis6vV4bLUJiSsHw3ZTR3l75LBuxo/PlRfwEUL5w0jcn0217+S6l9+DJ 2Yvg== X-Received: by 10.112.87.66 with SMTP id v2mr141827lbz.130.1360210751763; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:19:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.91.164 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:18:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130207040417.GA8868@yavin> References: <20130207040417.GA8868@yavin> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 23:18:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: old FAQ location To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkpNR1yoxbIf77WGNrCiJkoVB39tU2coxoMDSU3uTYVhmWSQ3pZZ9VKxuu7Ud+UdZOJrH56 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:19:13 -0000 On 6 February 2013 23:04, Derek Wood wrote: > Can it be made context-insensitive and the redirect transparent? The > short handbook redirect is useful in IRC and conversation, and if this > FAQ redirect was less unwieldy it would be equally useful. Good point. I agree. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 10:07:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB32489; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C3D231; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r17A7FsB069710; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:07:15 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r17A7FXu069706; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:07:15 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:07:15 GMT Message-Id: <201302071007.r17A7FXu069706@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org From: keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/175907: handbook section 16.6.1.1 mention qjail in update message X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 10:07:15 -0000 Synopsis: handbook section 16.6.1.1 mention qjail in update message Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Feb 7 10:06:57 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=175907 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 13:50:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B6615E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AE7F65; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r17Do14F011098; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:50:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r17Do1b2011097; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:50:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:50:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201302071350.r17Do1b2011097@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Cc: Steven Hartland Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Christoph Mallon Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2021EFC4 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christoph.mallon@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB8AF24 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.1]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M7nFW-1Upn9421ei-00vMck for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:44:46 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Feb 2013 13:44:46 -0000 Received: from p5B132387.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO rotluchs.lokal) [91.19.35.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 07 Feb 2013 14:44:46 +0100 Received: from tron by rotluchs.lokal with local (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1U3RmO-0006xW-3p for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:44:44 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:44:44 +0100 From: Christoph Mallon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.114 X-GNATS-Notify: Steven Hartland Subject: docs/175925: [Patch] Add smh@ to doc X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Christoph Mallon List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 13:50:01 -0000 >Number: 175925 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Add smh@ to doc >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Feb 07 13:50:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christoph Mallon >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: smh@ is missing his entries in the documentation. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following patch. Preferably smh@ does it himself, so I phrased the suggested commit log this way. --- 0001-Add-myself.patch begins here --- >From 6a3a001cb1e31e7299a68cf9a6f65b46c02f0131 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Steven Hartland Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:58:58 +0100 - Add my author entity, and list myself as a developer - Add myself to the contributors list - Add a news entry about me --- en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/contrib.committers.xml | 4 ++++ share/xml/authors.ent | 2 ++ share/xml/developers.ent | 1 + share/xml/news.xml | 9 +++++++++ 4 files changed, 16 insertions(+) diff --git a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/contrib.committers.xml b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/contrib.committers.xml index 42ea20a..6bf4fbc 100644 --- a/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/contrib.committers.xml +++ b/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/contrib.committers.xml @@ -520,6 +520,10 @@ + &a.smh; + + + &a.ehaupt; diff --git a/share/xml/authors.ent b/share/xml/authors.ent index 1d8c6ec..1b9b4c0 100644 --- a/share/xml/authors.ent +++ b/share/xml/authors.ent @@ -1206,6 +1206,8 @@ smace@FreeBSD.org"> +smh@FreeBSD.org"> + smkelly@FreeBSD.org"> smpatel@FreeBSD.org"> diff --git a/share/xml/developers.ent b/share/xml/developers.ent index 0012d13..5aa7f68 100644 --- a/share/xml/developers.ent +++ b/share/xml/developers.ent @@ -585,6 +585,7 @@ $FreeBSD$ + diff --git a/share/xml/news.xml b/share/xml/news.xml index 8ec8e88..d88320c 100644 --- a/share/xml/news.xml +++ b/share/xml/news.xml @@ -250,6 +250,15 @@ + 18 + + +

    New committer: + Steven Hartland (src)

    +     +     + + 17 -- 1.8.1.2 --- 0001-Add-myself.patch ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 17:21:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F22F877 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677EBF7A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r17HLJMw086330 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:21:19 GMT (envelope-from www@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r17HLJ37086329 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:21:19 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:21:19 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <201302071721.r17HLJ37086329@red.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on red.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:21:20 -0000 ===> doc/articles/portbuild (all) ===> doc/articles/pr-guidelines (all) ===> doc/articles/problem-reports (all) ===> doc/articles/rc-scripting (all) ===> doc/articles/relaydelay (all) ===> doc/articles/releng (all) ===> doc/articles/releng-packages (all) ===> doc/articles/remote-install (all) ===> doc/articles/serial-uart (all) ===> doc/articles/solid-state (all) ===> doc/articles/vm-design (all) ===> doc/articles/wp-toolbox (all) ===> doc/books (all) ===> doc/books/arch-handbook (all) ===> doc/books/design-44bsd (all) ===> doc/books/dev-model (all) ===> doc/books/developers-handbook (all) ===> doc/books/faq (all) Index is disabled or no index to generate. /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/head/share/xml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V biblio-xref-title -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -D /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/images/books/faq -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq -c /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/xml/catalog -c /w/www/build/head/share/xml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/dtds/decls/xml.dcl /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.xml /usr/bin/sed -i "" -e 's/ /\ /g' $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest) Index is disabled or no index to generate. *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/head/share/xml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V biblio-xref-title -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -D /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/images/books/faq -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq -c /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/xml/catalog -c /w/www/build/head/share/xml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/dtds/decls/xml.dcl /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.xml > book.html || (/bin/rm -f book.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -i "" -e 's/ /\ /g' book.html /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml book.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> doc/books/fdp-primer (all) ===> doc/books/handbook (all) /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/bin/collateindex.pl -i doc-index -N -o index.xml /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-index -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/head/share/xml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -i chap.index -i chap.audit -i chap.bsdinstall -i chap.dtrace -i chap.advanced-networking -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i chap.boot -i chap.config -i chap.cutting-edge -i chap.desktop -i chap.disks -i chap.eresources -i chap.firewalls -i chap.filesystems -i chap.geom -i chap.install -i chap.introduction -i chap.jails -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.l10n -i chap.linuxemu -i chap.mac -i chap.mail -i chap.mirrors -i chap.multimedia -i chap.network-servers -i chap.pgpkeys -i chap.ports -i chap.ppp-and-slip -i 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[76.26.237.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h44sm48830596yhn.2.2013.02.07.12.27.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:28:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:27:50 -0400 From: nmz To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Compression of freebsd iso images Message-Id: <20130207152750.74a933452e9c0c4a52304332@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:58:53 -0000 this saves bandwidth which is of course precious in third world countries and so on (not to mention places with caps) An Example: FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso ISO -- 150M 7z -- 40M gzip -- 56M maybe this could be an extra option? if it is a hassle. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 21:00:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3191C344 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yerenkow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5FFD69 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 21:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id dr12so2350351wgb.23 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 13:00:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HK/5t71cQUbvv2OTIeAsdVq072179wqNCsUIhgFnv+Q=; b=vXvIADUYYggwBUJKh4+BKzTDizsSvzt6EMsgzAlfB1d3bTN8snNjzKUNot91LCtBMn DWPcI6VYlV95cnuYoS2wdbHjD+C6PX8XSoe2B1AdIBYr++QJyi/RdjPM23UIkHK6PhTU UPwWIXqiyVDj1bGEMF4Xu6ZPMMrBnQOfTwd4G4eqbrSiZcJYPNZQX/uCYyZFcEnc2a2F X/oStPOPYcMU7CYD+7VLitEARN6t7KCwrX3JNYBvotfwVE35cEXWALv3vcbfKnF6r9gH EW6KZJltswduD8itHOOJnhcpWqQhvYk/i5mYFEHPXBur8ZGs9UGbpDb4/tTt4qsHriTb x/HA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.227 with SMTP id t3mr5532215wiy.2.1360270810207; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 13:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.168.228 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:00:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130207152750.74a933452e9c0c4a52304332@gmail.com> References: <20130207152750.74a933452e9c0c4a52304332@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 23:00:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compression of freebsd iso images From: Alexander Yerenkow To: nmz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:00:17 -0000 2013/2/7 nmz > this saves bandwidth which is of course precious in third world countries > and so on (not to mention places with caps) > > An Example: > FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso > ISO -- 150M > 7z -- 40M > gzip -- 56M > please try also xz and xz -9e > > maybe this could be an extra option? if it is a hassle. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Alexander Yerenkow From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 05:53:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D4DC6D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-f171.google.com (mail-ea0-f171.google.com [209.85.215.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AF76D1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f171.google.com with SMTP id c13so1500889eaa.16 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:53:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition; bh=KDGnCEDKxmJNk2CJi+NGcZQYeezi2elQrYVTHxTkW44=; b=ifypSUEJg35dOOoFuTxDKXCjXrF2maCQ1dOHON1NQCFJwADtzZvRYnvi4UB3H5iGJH RxNinFOArvvc4VuPMZjGQyDTq9HLG8SdsBEE7dv6/w93ySVUrkhG4rtQg8bieqwQa8Oh U/SKZ1rjXrfbFLvbNJlqxteFFF4nfYf7eFEa7ZB6w5HD3Ww8AKWV9EiwQ/CeOPgSqDu7 PTbhzssat7M8NSsWBjR0bvEHY86skWuDjcO5cyMDMVGfcxHpMaTc1cOON3BSVQ9aqpA8 YH5SgAQbq+0nEye4UOB3ZztSKX7ZOL4/lnJvMGM/C5sNVgWLKVAC6/HhrD31H4eYnHDB DBLw== X-Received: by 10.14.178.196 with SMTP id f44mr12474564eem.14.1360302793461; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h5sm45432545eem.1.2013.02.07.21.53.11 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 21:53:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:53:10 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Do we really need articles/cvs-freebsd anymore? Message-ID: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:53:20 -0000 Hi everyone, Now that everything (src, ports, doc) has moved off CVS, does it make sense to keep articles/cvs-freebsd around anymore? I think it's probably better to point people away from ncvs/dcvs-style setups. It may also be worth replacing the cvs-freebsd article with something that talks about subversion, or even some of the git repositories mentioned in https://wiki.freebsd.org/GitWorkflow - but this can be done separately. So what do you think, is it ok to 'svn rm' the cvs-freebsd/ article and then look into replacing it with something more modern? - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 05:58:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70069CCE; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2637D6E6; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (kaos.glenbarber.us [71.224.221.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A54F623F669; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:58:07 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 onyx.glenbarber.us A54F623F669 Authentication-Results: onyx.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:57:55 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Do we really need articles/cvs-freebsd anymore? Message-ID: <20130208055755.GE81339@glenbarber.us> References: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4f28nU6agdXSinmL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:58:09 -0000 --4f28nU6agdXSinmL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 06:53:10AM +0100, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > Now that everything (src, ports, doc) has moved off CVS, does it make > sense to keep articles/cvs-freebsd around anymore? I think it's > probably better to point people away from ncvs/dcvs-style setups. >=20 > It may also be worth replacing the cvs-freebsd article with something > that talks about subversion, or even some of the git repositories > mentioned in https://wiki.freebsd.org/GitWorkflow - but this can be done > separately. >=20 > So what do you think, is it ok to 'svn rm' the cvs-freebsd/ article and > then look into replacing it with something more modern? >=20 My personal preference is to ensure we have a matching svn replacement before removing the cvs-freebsd/ bits, so we do not leave people straggling with converting from one source control system to another, or worse, newcomers that cannot find any documentation on the current source control system. Glen --4f28nU6agdXSinmL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJRFJPjAAoJEFJPDDeguUaj4/4H/07c/Gwq3OGCBchhsAnumMUz h1ma+KPKtyO2S7higIYgs4iLL40QcKwcliSoDbVe3kTp1cJsYm9iM1bTkjvBfkf7 CGgkBFlPIwWuNoJJKdUlUJbDVToZtztu1IJ6xVtSIsfcyOpwCJsYnWRJzWRrJQyM 3MJoEnH96ZSf+Rc9E2V6IWnBHiUHef/evl6uAQUC/VRRt7XTU+5gypmbZTxCdzel UiYRAnPUIGCWlQTRkyQGOzVcrEqPphtkV1zsKi4yu5Geoffdvx6g0ISLXkbUFiyQ JjRuGOb+mQDZzI7u+NNvNn8y4If3ZJPWtoKpooXUNz6eV8ZrHAGFOEe1hv9GBGI= =lbZ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4f28nU6agdXSinmL-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 06:05:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914A8F12; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from anubis.delphij.net (anubis.delphij.net [IPv6:2001:470:1:117::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688B971B; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Xins-MacBook-Pro-2.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:83bf:0:409a:fe1:5d8d:55ad]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by anubis.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D1611C3B7; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 22:05:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=delphij.net; s=anubis; t=1360303514; bh=5SsnPrKc/gQoPDnY61Za5z8hu34ccdRaOqEaFTVB2Uc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=eDzg3tZiCup9pePV1dsnrjWTKrrrPj9zDq5Cv4O9zraIcGrTIp/uwRuZjDtD6tRei UDt2QwArGN3+28elkFos03dgU+G2sQnH7tfANWv7Gf0NAFir0foBK8glG4s3FmiMUC AtWLymt/BbO8TTS7F5j8cLhmfysk4G1QTbMfYLCE= Message-ID: <51149599.7060503@delphij.net> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:05:13 -0800 From: Xin Li Organization: The FreeBSD Project MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Do we really need articles/cvs-freebsd anymore? References: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> In-Reply-To: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@delphij.net List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:05:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2/7/13 9:53 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Now that everything (src, ports, doc) has moved off CVS, does it > make sense to keep articles/cvs-freebsd around anymore? I think > it's probably better to point people away from ncvs/dcvs-style > setups. > > It may also be worth replacing the cvs-freebsd article with > something that talks about subversion, or even some of the git > repositories mentioned in https://wiki.freebsd.org/GitWorkflow - > but this can be done separately. > > So what do you think, is it ok to 'svn rm' the cvs-freebsd/ article > and then look into replacing it with something more modern? CVS is still being used in internal repositories including re@ and secteam@, it's easy to set up and works fine for small groups. I think writing new articles should take higher priority than removing old ones, especially when there is no new article that acts similar role of the old ones... Just my $0.02 Cheers, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJRFJWZAAoJEG80Jeu8UPuzXXcH/1OjHM7lwiBuMlGtel9PCcNf zSxX5V4rKWa5VRmNSkpyl9S/ZzRMRGq+bdsU6roexklg9Y91adVSmGD2gLg+0MCy JcWP8JOBIL/+XPOF3c8lyp1HfqusO9eoJF4HhwIKo2f32S4dcHSDf69NhMoPvVIY xSPRQgMkH0tCySlP2cGpQ2P4/4mPe5RyIHFilfagTCaaWHywhWQl8fV64KLkHDiL 8IaR2Dwt0dCAQMOkqXa6YXGv5J4qHOgZOkgWBLOb11X4adDgtRSfCWJAfy+xXRpp rqwGTdZAmGypT8kxfseJniT9B3Rnq/8DT5O/B5p7RcbmLGbsFDWdsC49gpZDmD4= =Yua0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 06:08:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9426F84; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F362735; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f54.google.com with SMTP id c41so1871743eek.13 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:08:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=6OXHr3ZgXT1M0DEwbWRh2Aj3XukXY7XdWhjctwqHOjY=; b=DB7PYRUIiC+HsgxuP2BJYuH0PaPHD7qJ4kq4EGYCrscer9tdZqtExZ5RC70TuIMA8V PI6CIhr4F7qbhcKbm/cizudg4+qWgN6AiIRIRb18jhcrpTdJmYYMgCOK9BvB2mvSXOl1 alQrCiFtyOZARVHxjHupcuSylD/2KCZXwgNI2/Dw0px6ToebxxYywV+5YEUJFHCNLsk2 wLyVPfmKSGdHy+xLYAJ8r1akbxvs8BSlWkLvfCD6yQauHFTwymaKUqazn6T4lM45JzQO ySDMlOrj4eDrO++hkp+oLGLP/VCNmM3qE2VV7k5wtIpm9uactnYzpfWPfWn0cHZJPddm MANg== X-Received: by 10.14.179.5 with SMTP id g5mr12451427eem.41.1360303681821; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2sm45461833eep.9.2013.02.07.22.08.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:08:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:07:58 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: Do we really need articles/cvs-freebsd anymore? Message-ID: <20130208060757.GA30828@saturn> References: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> <20130208055755.GE81339@glenbarber.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130208055755.GE81339@glenbarber.us> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:08:09 -0000 On 2013-02-08 00:57, Glen Barber wrote: >On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 06:53:10AM +0100, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> Now that everything (src, ports, doc) has moved off CVS, does it make >> sense to keep articles/cvs-freebsd around anymore? I think it's >> probably better to point people away from ncvs/dcvs-style setups. >> >> It may also be worth replacing the cvs-freebsd article with something >> that talks about subversion, or even some of the git repositories >> mentioned in https://wiki.freebsd.org/GitWorkflow - but this can be done >> separately. >> >> So what do you think, is it ok to 'svn rm' the cvs-freebsd/ article and >> then look into replacing it with something more modern? > > My personal preference is to ensure we have a matching svn replacement > before removing the cvs-freebsd/ bits, so we do not leave people > straggling with converting from one source control system to another, > or worse, newcomers that cannot find any documentation on the current > source control system. Fair enough. The main point of this article is to help people replicate the CVS setup that FreeBSD uses. I can work on describing how someone can replicate the subversion setup of FreeBSD, including access-control and email notifications, and _then_ we can de-orbit the article and the cvs-freebsd setup. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 06:13:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C32D5; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BCD75D; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (kaos.glenbarber.us [71.224.221.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDD9223F669; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 01:13:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 onyx.glenbarber.us EDD9223F669 Authentication-Results: onyx.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 01:13:43 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Do we really need articles/cvs-freebsd anymore? Message-ID: <20130208061343.GF81339@glenbarber.us> References: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> <20130208055755.GE81339@glenbarber.us> <20130208060757.GA30828@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YH9Qf6Fh2G5kB/85" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130208060757.GA30828@saturn> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:13:57 -0000 --YH9Qf6Fh2G5kB/85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 07:07:58AM +0100, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > My personal preference is to ensure we have a matching svn replacement > > before removing the cvs-freebsd/ bits, so we do not leave people > > straggling with converting from one source control system to another, > > or worse, newcomers that cannot find any documentation on the current > > source control system. >=20 > Fair enough. The main point of this article is to help people replicate > the CVS setup that FreeBSD uses. I can work on describing how someone > can replicate the subversion setup of FreeBSD, including access-control > and email notifications, and _then_ we can de-orbit the article and the > cvs-freebsd setup. Yes, this is what I meant. Sorry if that was not clear. I seem to recall an email from Peter a few months ago (likely to -doc@) with a rough synopsis of what is needed to seed and run a local svn mirror. I will need to look for the email, but he had a nice outline of what should be included, and how to do it. Glen --YH9Qf6Fh2G5kB/85 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJRFJeXAAoJEFJPDDeguUajxlkH/iiB0pFIlbrWLNRSHEqYDpxO HyAMaBZ+UT7/OY10akkXr2skM0lLPYj9fPUOcJx01/WDS2yNgnkla02UotYXG5E2 iPwO3caxIxT45EH3Wphb+fSdTwwGxu/Liu9ozmagNzMTRKutOQNLhsWmZcNMHBoC hbvLSM0Sj2VzmCbI+IOLfsIKOdZBfMhTvB+s4375dgUwq4PaYowqbESgcD8IlOCo PHWkgO8mOmcd1iyGyoPn6b9baE38Ja8hOG2LKZBI0qx7GHamgmpGJq1lk/psrU7q VCkStixNTrQVVK63+y4VDp+8zBXwMK5cAidu6LHSG5kd6UeBrcCaLSbJ0FQdXaY= =3+J1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YH9Qf6Fh2G5kB/85-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 06:17:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675DB131; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f49.google.com (mail-ee0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA373773; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f49.google.com with SMTP id d4so1678995eek.36 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:17:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=HzvRIzCjRMMft/R/tsCq26ZquplLtH4wIeftGc01Zrg=; b=QBCpvS3iWmV0CdfQdl7y2rHppI5ndVePFhvnh5ej8F7D8ViixN67mzS5R60SF15uNq Ytmf4XWmlBO+ypWlfKgbVNLzqComV9uQ3PvfyWeytPjnZKD7MuQ1t7+Z0vJ/WmtFxDaQ xS+v6GmtDavFSKINUdELMWwrlx0SHlc/SdP7xzGYIzJcLXhUAXMAuDlVZL7qhon3iJqP ZGOEJ7/3o6AUsdUJJmUS2MTEK6bs7fOef7SJnGkBqGKcV8t9h4FzNEBTFYeGbFnpirvy i40iQZD/GhSv+D1V0VvjSlN4+jjXbWYLXn9FCuN5Zgwxp6WCAF221xqizVPF9gYieFIg j2Xg== X-Received: by 10.14.2.196 with SMTP id 44mr12542968eef.25.1360304220485; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3sm45486619eeo.13.2013.02.07.22.16.59 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:16:59 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:16:57 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: Do we really need articles/cvs-freebsd anymore? Message-ID: <20130208061656.GB30828@saturn> References: <20130208055308.GA30647@saturn> <20130208055755.GE81339@glenbarber.us> <20130208060757.GA30828@saturn> <20130208061343.GF81339@glenbarber.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130208061343.GF81339@glenbarber.us> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:17:02 -0000 On 2013-02-08 01:13, Glen Barber wrote: >On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 07:07:58AM +0100, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> My personal preference is to ensure we have a matching svn replacement >>> before removing the cvs-freebsd/ bits, so we do not leave people >>> straggling with converting from one source control system to another, >>> or worse, newcomers that cannot find any documentation on the current >>> source control system. >> >> Fair enough. The main point of this article is to help people replicate >> the CVS setup that FreeBSD uses. I can work on describing how someone >> can replicate the subversion setup of FreeBSD, including access-control >> and email notifications, and _then_ we can de-orbit the article and the >> cvs-freebsd setup. > > Yes, this is what I meant. Sorry if that was not clear. > > I seem to recall an email from Peter a few months ago (likely to -doc@) > with a rough synopsis of what is needed to seed and run a local svn > mirror. I will need to look for the email, but he had a nice outline of > what should be included, and how to do it. I got that email already; thanks. I recently reinstalled my CURRENT test machine, and mirrored svn/base and svn/doc from scratch, so I can write that part easily. The more important bits that I will have to dig out of svnadmin/ is how to replicate the setup we use for 'admin' stuff, so that people can have a non-FreeBSD subversino repository that uses all the extra goodies we have on top of a plain-svn repo. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 08:40:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF3310D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5E2FC0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r188e1wt031858 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r188e1Kh031857; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:40:01 GMT Message-Id: <201302080840.r188e1Kh031857@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Subject: docs/167741 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:40:02 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/167741; it has been noted by GNATS. From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: docs/167741 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:32:59 +0100 newgrp(1) fails because it is not setuid root out of the box. You have to "chmod u+s /usr/bin/newgrp". This is intentional, cf. the last paragraph of the man page. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:20:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADDC735 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B348BF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r18EK0wB094944 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r18EK0wa094940; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:00 GMT Message-Id: <201302081420.r18EK0wa094940@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Subject: Re: docs/167741: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:20:01 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/167741; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/167741: commit references a PR Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Author: des Date: Fri Feb 8 14:14:00 2013 New Revision: 246553 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/246553 Log: Print a warning if not setuid root. Document the need for the setuid bit and how to set it. Explain why it isn't set by default, and suggest simply adding users to groups instead. PR: docs/167741 MFC after: 3 weeks Modified: head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c Modified: head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 ============================================================================== --- head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 Fri Feb 8 14:11:12 2013 (r246552) +++ head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.1 Fri Feb 8 14:14:00 2013 (r246553) @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd May 23, 2002 +.Dd February 8, 2013 .Dt NEWGRP 1 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -90,6 +90,15 @@ A utility appeared in .At v6 . .Sh BUGS +For security reasons, the +.Nm +utility is normally installed without the setuid bit. +To enable it, run the following command: +.Bd -literal -offset indent +chmod u+s /usr/bin/newgrp +.Ed +.Pp Group passwords are inherently insecure as there is no way to stop -users obtaining the crypted passwords from the group database. +users obtaining the password hash from the group database. Their use is discouraged. +Instead, users should simply be added to the necessary groups. Modified: head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c ============================================================================== --- head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c Fri Feb 8 14:11:12 2013 (r246552) +++ head/usr.bin/newgrp/newgrp.c Fri Feb 8 14:14:00 2013 (r246553) @@ -73,7 +73,8 @@ main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int ch, login; - euid = geteuid(); + if ((euid = geteuid()) != 0) + warnx("need root permissions to function properly, check setuid bit"); if (seteuid(getuid()) < 0) err(1, "seteuid"); _______________________________________________ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:20:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126FD738 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057748C1 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r18EK1Pe094955 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r18EK15M094954; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:20:01 GMT Message-Id: <201302081420.r18EK15M094954@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Subject: Re: docs/167741: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:20:02 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/167741; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/167741: commit references a PR Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Author: des Date: Fri Feb 8 14:11:12 2013 New Revision: 246552 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/246552 Log: Cross-reference newgrp(1), and document the use of pw(8) to set the group password. PR: docs/167741 MFC after: 3 weeks Modified: head/share/man/man5/group.5 Modified: head/share/man/man5/group.5 ============================================================================== --- head/share/man/man5/group.5 Fri Feb 8 12:53:29 2013 (r246551) +++ head/share/man/man5/group.5 Fri Feb 8 14:11:12 2013 (r246552) @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ .\" From: @(#)group.5 8.3 (Berkeley) 4/19/94 .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd September 29, 1994 +.Dd February 8, 2013 .Dt GROUP 5 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ may still have this limit. .It Pa /etc/group .El .Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr newgrp 1 , .Xr passwd 1 , .Xr setgroups 2 , .Xr crypt 3 , @@ -156,9 +157,14 @@ file format appeared in .At v6 . Support for comments first appeared in .Fx 3.0 . -.Sh BUGS +.Sh IMPLEMENTATION NOTES The .Xr passwd 1 command does not change the .Nm passwords. +The +.Xr pw 8 +utility's +.Cm groupmod +command should be used instead. _______________________________________________ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 8 20:40:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF954B4C; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trasz@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB96FEAE; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r18KeUxf064488; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:40:30 GMT (envelope-from trasz@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trasz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r18KeU4f064484; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:40:30 GMT (envelope-from trasz) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:40:30 GMT Message-Id: <201302082040.r18KeU4f064484@freefall.freebsd.org> To: trasz@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trasz@FreeBSD.org From: trasz@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/174433: man setfacl is not correct X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:40:30 -0000 Synopsis: man setfacl is not correct Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trasz Responsible-Changed-By: trasz Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Feb 8 20:40:30 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: Fixed in 10-CURRENT, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=174433 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 00:13:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6A2915; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E9CB07; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r190DSYT011672; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:13:28 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r190DSgd011666; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:13:28 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:13:28 GMT Message-Id: <201302090013.r190DSgd011666@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, eadler@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/174966: [patch] Bug in chflags(2) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 00:13:28 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] Bug in chflags(2) man page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->eadler Responsible-Changed-By: eadler Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Feb 9 00:13:28 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=174966 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 00:39:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AE12B7; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CF8D0C; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r190dieZ015707; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:39:44 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r190dih2015703; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:39:44 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:39:44 GMT Message-Id: <201302090039.r190dih2015703@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, eadler@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/173664: csup(1) manpage refers to "runsocks", which was part of net/socks5, which doesn't exist now X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 00:39:44 -0000 Synopsis: csup(1) manpage refers to "runsocks", which was part of net/socks5, which doesn't exist now Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->eadler Responsible-Changed-By: eadler Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Feb 9 00:39:44 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=173664 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 06:44:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44879673 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 06:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@tripit.com) Received: from mx.tripit.com (mx.tripit.com [12.129.29.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DA5AC3 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 06:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tripit.com (ceweb3.captura.net [12.129.29.90]) by mx.tripit.com with ESMTP id BD9BCE21A7C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 22:44:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 22:44:28 -0800 To: doc@freebsd.org From: Support at TripIt Subject: Problem with your TripIt submission Message-ID: <5df27b2d9ebf8781d60d3b56c7f5e9cc@tripit.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: TripitMail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: do-not-reply@tripit.com List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 06:44:35 -0000 Hello doc3030, There's a problem with your TripIt submission. 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