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From: Craig Rodrigues To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:35:42 -0000 Hi, I am trying to fix some text in the FreeBSD docs, and am trying to build the FreeBSD docs and web pages so I can view the output HTML as I am fixing things. What is the correct procedure to do this? I am trying to follow these instructions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/the-website-build.html but those instructions didn't quite do what I wanted, i.e. they did not build all the books (such as handbook) and articles. On Freefall, I did this: mkdir -p ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2 mkdir -p ~rodrigc/public_html/doc1 cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2 svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/head doc cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 make install DOCDIR=$HOME/public_html/doc1/doc mkdir -p /tmp/ports touch /tmp/ports/INDEX cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs make NOPORTSNET=yes PORTSBASE=/tmp NO_PACKAGES_LINK=yes all The output is here: http://people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/doc1/ but it doesn't look right. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Craig From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 23:02:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185ED22D; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E881DBFA; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1ON29Pn007691; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:02:09 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1ON297Z007687; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:02:09 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:02:09 GMT Message-Id: <201302242302.r1ON297Z007687@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sergueim@gmail.com, linimon@FreeBSD.org, sam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/124253: Broken command in the handbook for configuring a wireless access point X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:02:10 -0000 Synopsis: Broken command in the handbook for configuring a wireless access point State-Changed-From-To: open->open State-Changed-By: linimon State-Changed-When: Sun Feb 24 22:58:48 UTC 2013 State-Changed-Why: Sam has not been active in some time. This is a very old PR and is probably no longer relevant. Responsible-Changed-From-To: sam->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Feb 24 22:58:48 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=124253 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 23:30:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58ED813; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45308DAE; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id p43so2039439wea.10 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:30:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=9HSZWkd3MxkADxzUBSDLv2FcpXIO6FwWNMIYPdXF9Wo=; b=EvKDmZlOLjcKW618AbI6AoaEESmn2uvlWce9t8hqy93oUqq9g4tIWOyf84jboROAja WwYJvneK4VBcLTDe4mV6pN0KpcBuF2gK9+G+vY4XAIiM9ByRaKxMG9HVi3+nEVfUPzzA wxwVg1x6WMd20ha1F+PfiqyRcBR9RxKji7BfvFoOnEagVS/0vh3DWHbMceHs1WnnubfJ tBUk4uMa+YT2HJA8xSbrBFpQ+hFueeLa1zIKKcJL2Ef6NCBb4nAOVScG5dLlaLeVAq60 GgxKd3vhS/k1nqtuylhug8hPMa/fkFhXgs5HTP5UVXB3fmHwzKezJj+DyRvlLDB26xY4 dPsg== X-Received: by 10.181.11.164 with SMTP id ej4mr8723584wid.29.1361748619355; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4sm11765010wiz.10.2013.02.24.15.30.17 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:30:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:30:13 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Craig Rodrigues Subject: Re: How to build FreeBSD doc web pages? Message-ID: <20130224233011.GA32317@saturn> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:30:21 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013-02-24 13:35, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am trying to fix some text in the FreeBSD docs, > and am trying to build the FreeBSD docs and web pages > so I can view the output HTML as I am fixing things. >=20 > What is the correct procedure to do this? >=20 > I am trying to follow these instructions: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/the-website-build.html >=20 > but those instructions didn't quite do what I wanted, i.e. > they did not build all the books (such as handbook) and articles. >=20 > On Freefall, I did this: >=20 > mkdir -p ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2 > mkdir -p ~rodrigc/public_html/doc1 > cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2 > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/head doc > cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 > make install DOCDIR=3D$HOME/public_html/doc1/doc The makefile glue for building the website assumes that DESTDIR is also set to something. Try installing with: cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2/doc cd en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs env DESTDIR=3D"$HOME/public_html/doc1" \ make install Setting DESTDIR during 'make install' for htdocs/ will automatically also set DOCDIR to $DESTDIR/data/doc so you don't have to specify it too. To speed up checks for the 'make install' run, it may also be useful to set ENLISH_ONLY=3Dyes, so you skip all the translations at first. What you did ended up installing the Handbook's index.html over the doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/index.xsl output. --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEqooMACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7b73wCgtJXazNbT1PKmSWjBqdyPKF8j WegAn3zBYZqTloGF0VcRnx3Yw/T8eZc5 =ra+5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 23:48:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F700C65; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28855E76; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1ONmIl7016717; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:48:18 GMT (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1ONmHKk016713; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:48:17 GMT (envelope-from keramida) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:48:17 GMT Message-Id: <201302242348.r1ONmHKk016713@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sergueim@gmail.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org From: keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/124253: Broken command in the handbook for configuring a wireless access point X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:48:18 -0000 Synopsis: Broken command in the handbook for configuring a wireless access point State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Sun Feb 24 23:41:28 UTC 2013 State-Changed-Why: Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Feb 24 23:41:28 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=124253 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 23:50:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AFACC0; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A5DE8A; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id p43so2046201wea.10 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:50:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=8YJRauYm+k+QH0fjuDpK4eUrydyjq4PRU3I+NaQgJvE=; b=bVfuYjP3aMUucOu8IP5+U5lXxpf+hRn8v9EKC4wISuZ1jpFkQzvzmhTBkCFbekSXuN 4Tr7BZZ949OUMJmCIDWxFWBMhZQG543B6luJZ+zdIOlZgGw1BhGpZtfYGL6HGh0sQGdj 4VlNu7q0eVs1/aUs0B1LROoZIeWgjzmDIYg4wTeJggsIlzHPPrsbExpSaijtgxPYSPWD A09BtTlxCDnXQzYUcSGYn0R2sdTFZiJr7XQJ7wp4YL2hqW9cWh189a82WpyJWEZHHg1m 4I6FEgmCz/bl6jpLrTQTzHM8xnMWvtzcF5z82zkoEGsL5WWUS6jeJNNQUWHUtJ9Hnrd8 pfUw== X-Received: by 10.194.90.168 with SMTP id bx8mr15284408wjb.59.1361749818612; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fx5sm13159485wib.11.2013.02.24.15.50.16 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:50:17 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:50:08 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/124253: Broken command in the handbook for configuring a wireless access point Message-ID: <20130224235007.GB32317@saturn> References: <201302242302.r1ON297Z007687@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201302242302.r1ON297Z007687@freefall.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sam@FreeBSD.org, sergueim@gmail.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:50:21 -0000 On 2013-02-24 23:02, linimon@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: Broken command in the handbook for configuring a wireless access point > > State-Changed-From-To: open->open > State-Changed-By: linimon > State-Changed-When: Sun Feb 24 22:58:48 UTC 2013 > State-Changed-Why: > Sam has not been active in some time. This is a very old PR and is > probably no longer relevant. > > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: sam->freebsd-doc > Responsible-Changed-By: linimon > Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Feb 24 22:58:48 UTC 2013 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=124253 I botched the first edit of this PR, and the comments went only to me, rather than me *and* the list, so here's the latest comment from the trail of the PR This used to be true, but it was fixed in svn rev 35578 by blackend, when he committed this change, among other wlan improvements: % - &prompt.root; ifconfig ath0 up scan % + &prompt.root; ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0ifconfig wlan0 up scan From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 25 07:58:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB23A2E; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crodr001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06592EE; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id n3so2006237lbo.20 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:58:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nEviNdL7qC8UgwpmsUjRq940O1YWtn8wpigUS54FmjM=; b=K5BGMLfHCGTwYyZeiB2buPVCm7UwZgTCyN/RS6YjXidLZNz4GnRz7DCuygcxAWfMf9 6xuJ2UwCEv+0UNPU0ZgoDKOv78G425kOVQ7+kOAuHOg4mahH210f6VDHPmoQgYUTMS4G xjcstqANIheJoTMsiWFsGbSo5jZFVx0L+cfeorNNbQ7mRUQFsHpwDPQ7qSwGfI8gKABG f/fLTDG1U83Ei23Jg/IicU8yee2esDQPZRJtrZT344FtBqoZCNjHAmjXkca0xzsGRSGk O14AS7HBkMXUN0V/tZ7xEUY7klaMgf5LUu5xfsUnM154Zup/HKJwLawgD3vRGw1hEah2 ktYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.37.234 with SMTP id b10mr4047112lbk.118.1361779093719; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:58:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.85.198 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:58:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130224233011.GA32317@saturn> References: <20130224233011.GA32317@saturn> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:58:13 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tWiKdQy2czIZeqvEsWXCfuPVVM8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to build FreeBSD doc web pages? From: Craig Rodrigues To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=e0cb4efe2dbe24cbbb04d687e700 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:58:21 -0000 --e0cb4efe2dbe24cbbb04d687e700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2013-02-24 13:35, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > The makefile glue for building the website assumes that DESTDIR is also > set to something. Try installing with: > > cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2/doc > cd en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs > > env DESTDIR="$HOME/public_html/doc1" \ > make install > > Setting DESTDIR during 'make install' for htdocs/ will automatically > also set DOCDIR to $DESTDIR/data/doc so you don't have to specify it > too. > > To speed up checks for the 'make install' run, it may also be useful > to set ENLISH_ONLY=yes, so you skip all the translations at first. > > What you did ended up installing the Handbook's index.html over the > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/index.xsl output. > Ah OK, thanks for the tip. Also looking at Glen Barber's script ~gjb/bin/docbuild.sh helped me understand a lot. Would it be appropriate to add an example to the fdp primer such as the one below? That would have improved my understanding of how to do this. 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The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/176363 doc Remove mention of 'CVSup' from "Mirroring FreeBSD arti o docs/176355 doc Attribution and correction of quote in fortune o docs/176317 doc cpuset(2) refers to nonexistent CPU_SET(3) o docs/176251 doc FreeBSD Handbook assumes too much pre-knowledge o docs/176127 doc [handbook] add information about all missing mailing l o docs/176125 doc missing summary of freebsd-jail mailing list o docs/176123 doc missing summary of freebsd-sysinstall mailing list o docs/176122 doc [handbook] [patch] annotate which mailing lists are mo o docs/176015 doc [handbook] wrong order in docs for major upgrade o docs/175995 doc Setting MALLOC_PRODUCTION stops buildworld o docs/175983 doc man zfs are missing "hold, release" from "zfs allow" o docs/175712 doc Update 'disk naming' handbook page o docs/175687 doc pthread_setschedparam(3) may fail for undocumented rea o docs/175564 doc [books/porters-handbook]: add note about port orgin f o docs/175560 doc ugen(4) man page contains incorrect device node path o docs/175349 doc "freebsdnic" email address at Intel bounces o docs/175239 doc sem_wait can be interrupted o docs/175123 doc [geom] gpart list/status isn't documented in usage sec o docs/174892 doc [handbook] 5.6.1 of handbook has a small problem o docs/174868 doc mount(2) doesn't do a good job at describing all possi o docs/174792 doc synopsis for nsupdate(1) missing options -L, and -p o docs/174581 doc man page of recvmsg(2) does not mention return value 0 o docs/173710 doc Added section "MTP storage" to handbook o docs/173703 doc Documentation refers a port that do not exists o docs/173585 doc SEE ALSO in pcap(3) references nonexistent pfconfig(8) o docs/173539 doc [patch] statfs(2) man page missed the error code ENOSY o docs/173321 doc ports(7) man page -- no info on building with debuggin o docs/173202 doc [patch] ACPICONF(8) does not have -k option documented o docs/173013 doc FreeBSD Boot Menu documentation lacks detail o docs/172927 doc ipfw manual page doesn't show simpliest NAT case o docs/172913 doc [ipsec] [patch] setkey(8) is unclear on anti-replay wi o docs/172869 doc [PATCH] Add in nifty lang icons to index.html (home) o docs/172868 doc [PATCH] fix header.ent change Introduction -> For newb o docs/172743 doc IPv6 handbooks lacks info about accepting router adver o docs/172626 doc [PATCH] modify the community/* pages to look more plea o docs/172370 doc [handbook] Handbook should be updated for Blu-Ray driv o docs/172369 doc mkisofs(8)/growisofs(1m) don't specify UDF version o docs/172368 doc mount_udf(8) doesn't specify which versions of UDF are o docs/172367 doc ata(4) man page needs an updated for Blu-Ray o docs/172330 doc [PATCH] Fix some errors introduced to announce.xml by o docs/172144 doc psignal(9) manpage is outdated for FreeBSD-9 systems o docs/172137 doc deprecated information for adduser(8) man pages o docs/171337 doc [PATCH] Add german filename conversion scheme for moun o docs/171292 doc [handbook] [patch] handbook should describe subversion o docs/171199 doc the GDB man page is outdated o docs/170691 doc Difference between zfs manpages and reality o docs/170223 doc IPv6 configuration section for 9.x is incorrect o docs/170119 doc at behaviour and man at inconsistency o docs/169712 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_TW.Big5 apache section o docs/169711 doc [patch] porters-handbook zh_CN.GB2312 apache section o docs/169544 doc serial port console documentation changes s docs/169401 doc passify dead links in release links, move www to lists o docs/169377 doc [patch] ipmon(8) man page refers to a different facili o docs/169317 doc zfs umount refers to umount(1M) but should to umount(8 o docs/169158 doc [patch] iasl(8) man page is out of date o docs/168930 doc map_mincore(9) not up-to-date o docs/168915 doc size of integers used by test(1) and sh(1) is not docu o docs/168823 doc 404s in fr_FR French web pages o docs/168814 doc [patch] remove `d` negative pointer EINVAL requirement o docs/168803 doc Remove outdated smp info o docs/167742 doc Update documentation for group 5, and newgrp 1 o docs/167741 doc group(5): Group Passwords do not work and are not docu o docs/167429 doc geli(8) needs to mention unencrypted /etc/fstab requir o docs/166553 doc find(1): find -delete documentation is misleading o docs/166358 doc No networking in Jail build via: handbook/jail-tuning o conf/166330 doc [rc] [patch] Thin server configuration revision reques o docs/165657 doc Web site Features page aging o docs/165551 doc ipfw(8): no info in "ipfw pipe show" about ipv6 o docs/165249 doc Multibyte characters in manpages still not displaying o docs/164803 doc Unclear manual page for mount_unionfs(8) o docs/164620 doc Raid 1 issues o docs/164099 doc gparm(8): man page for gparm set is incorrect and inco o docs/164034 doc acl(9) documentation lacking o docs/163879 doc [handbook] handbook does not say about how to force to o docs/163830 doc device smbios: missing documentation, no manpage o docs/163149 doc [patch] Red Hat Linux/i386 9 HTML format sudo man page o docs/162765 doc [patch] lseek(2) may return successful although no see o docs/162699 doc Handbook/Upgrading instructions: should mention delete o docs/162587 doc unclear/incomplete description of per-interface statis o docs/162419 doc [request] please document (new) zfs and zpool cmdline o docs/162404 doc [handbook] IPv6 link-local address compared with IPv4 o docs/161754 doc p4tcc(4), est(4) and qpi(4) are not documented o docs/161496 doc zfs(1): Please document that sysctl vfs.usermount must o docs/160460 doc [handbook] Network setup guide suggestion o docs/160446 doc [handbook] Handbook sound setup seems outdated o docs/160445 doc [handbook] Handbook does not mention ACL o docs/160399 doc Man page for re(4) missing jumbo frames info o docs/159307 doc [patch] lpd smm chapter unconditionally installed o docs/158388 doc Incorrect documentation of LOCAL_SCRIPT in release(7) o docs/158387 doc The tree(3) man should mention the RB_FOREACH_SAFE() A o docs/157908 doc [handbook] Description of post-install should include o docs/157698 doc [patch] gpart(8) man page contains old/incorrect size o docs/157316 doc [patch] update devstat(9) man page o docs/157049 doc FreeBSD Handbook: Chapter 14 (Security) Inaccuracy o docs/156920 doc isspecial(3) is not helpful o docs/156815 doc chmod(1): manpage should describe that chmod kicks +t o docs/156689 doc stf(4) output-only documentation gives bad configurati f docs/156187 doc [handbook] [patch] Add bsnmpd to handbook o docs/156081 doc troff falls with troff.core with UTF-8 man with incorr o docs/155982 doc [handbook] reaper of the dead: remove reference to flo o docs/155149 doc [patch] don't encourage using xorg.conf outside of PRE o docs/154838 doc update cvs-tags information on releng_* to reflect sup o docs/153958 doc ksu man-page documented, but not installed a docs/153012 doc [patch] iostat(8) requires an argument to -c option o docs/151752 doc pw.conf(5) doesn't define format for file clearly o docs/150991 doc [patch] Install upgtfw using pkg_add as advised in upg o docs/150917 doc [patch] icmp.4, wrong description of icmplim and icmpl o docs/150877 doc ambiguity in newsyslog(8) man page about zfs with comp o docs/150255 doc dtrace description should mention makeoptions DEBUG=-g o docs/149574 doc [patch] update mi_switch(9) man page o docs/148987 doc [patch] {MD[245]|SHA_|SHA1_|SHA256_}{End|File|FileChun o docs/148984 doc [handbook] Mistake in section 16.15.4 of the handbook o docs/148680 doc [sysctl][patch] Document some sys/kern sysctls o docs/148071 doc Failover mode between wired and wireless interfaces o docs/147995 doc elf.5 man page has has missing reference o docs/146521 doc [handbook] Update IPv6 system handbook section to ment o docs/145699 doc hexdump(1) mutes all format qualifier output following o docs/145069 doc Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article out dated. o docs/145066 doc Update for new uart dev names for serial port. s docs/144818 doc all mailinglist archives dated 19970101 contain traili o docs/144630 doc [patch] domainname(1) manpage contains old information o docs/144515 doc [handbook] Expand handbook Table of contents o docs/143850 doc procfs(5) manpage for status > controlling terminal is o docs/143472 doc gethostname(3) references undefined value: HOST_NAME_M o docs/143416 doc [handbook] IPFW handbook page issues o docs/143408 doc man filedesc(9) is missing o docs/141032 doc misleading documentation for rtadvd.conf(5) raflags se s docs/140847 doc [request] add documentation on ECMP and new route args o docs/140444 doc [patch] New Traditional Chinese translation of custom- o docs/140375 doc [UPDATE] Updated zh_TW.Big5/articles/nanobsd o docs/139336 doc [request] ZFS documentation suggestion o docs/139165 doc gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and o docs/139018 doc translation of submitting.sgml from docproj/submitting o docs/138845 doc Exceeding kern.ipc.maxpipekva refers to tuning(7) whic o docs/138663 doc system(3) man page confuses users about "return value o docs/138485 doc bpf(4) and ip(4) man pages missing important corner ca o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option o docs/135516 doc [patch] pax(1) manual not mentioning chflags unawarene o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131626 doc [patch] dump(8) "recommended" cache option confusing o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129464 doc using packages system o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/116588 doc No IPFW tables or dummynet in Handbook o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit p docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101271 doc serial console documentation implies kernel rebuild re o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/95408 doc install over serial console does not work as documente o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/81611 doc [patch] natd runs with -same_ports by default o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/57298 doc [patch] add using compact flash cards info to handbook s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/51480 doc Multiple undefined references in the FreeBSD manual pa o kern/51341 doc [ipfw] [patch] ipfw rule 'deny icmp from any to any ic o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] Add documentation on the fixit disk o docs/47594 doc [patch] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 229 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 25 14:11:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7DDDD7 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64194EBD for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1PEBDqm054580 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:11:13 GMT (envelope-from www@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r1PEBDM9054579 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:11:13 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:11:13 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <201302251411.r1PEBDM9054579@red.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on red.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:11:13 -0000 install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/docs/books.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/docs install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/docs/webresources.html /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/docs ===> ../../zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout ===> ../../zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout/css install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout/css/fixed.css /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/layout/css install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout/css/fixed_large.css /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/layout/css install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout/css/global.css /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/layout/css install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout/css/layout.css /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/layout/css install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout/css/navigation.css /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/layout/css install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 664 /w/www/build/head/zh_TW.Big5/htdocs/layout/css/text.css /usr/local/www/www.freebsd.org/data/zh_TW/layout/css 36.46 real 13.56 user 22.91 sys Build ended Mon Feb 25 14:01:55 UTC 2013 (110s) Build started Mon Feb 25 14:10:05 UTC 2013 U head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/advocacy/index.xml Updated to revision 41039. 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At revision 247266. ===> advocacy env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= XML_CATALOG_FILES="file:///w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/advocacy/catalog-cwd.xml file:///w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/xml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/head/share/xml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/head/share/xml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/local/bin/xmllint --xinclude --valid --noout --nonet --catalogs index.xml index.xml:35: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: li line 32 and ul ^ index.xml:89: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: ul line 31 and body ^ index.xml:90: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: body line 14 and html ^ index.xml:91: parser error : Premature end of data in tag html line 7 ^ *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/advocacy. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs. 0.12 real 0.06 user 0.04 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 25 15:23:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB8E440; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (we-in-x0236.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7C8306; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id t57so2570416wey.41 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=rSuliXb0Ct6ZmAl8298ya5DI957XAMEdF5HeulEydEE=; b=CGsUmY/8mYHjFVNF2g6IJvqif3Feq06Yfc4iZxSeD//bkeGaVuMnu3F1x7Ch1SEqOF 7Wf2OLq/oF7bXRu4/0zJlWTP5Q1Ke1kw6Y/TrveKipVWzd6ftaDhZ1latRMMyaIipD0T r1n/JV9UtyrjB1CBpQDxVmh9ITTkE3w3dQFhJ9u7wQx/TAWZH4Hc4dIk9gnMP/A5DXtr b0bRPT0STp2pz/4f7sa6NpAPxMdm5VgvA1U1MokQG9aAAz2T3kp0U+DD91mHohZ/bklN CflEnvOQsT59nX8ar9MbAC3/OsF9UIxhBNMtMKxWeLLtAz60KwDHTQhAhtuTUjo+FVAE egcg== X-Received: by 10.180.92.39 with SMTP id cj7mr12958981wib.19.1361805820217; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex15sm15533794wid.5.2013.02.25.07.23.38 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:23:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:23:32 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Craig Rodrigues Subject: Re: How to build FreeBSD doc web pages? Message-ID: <20130225152311.GA7791@saturn> References: <20130224233011.GA32317@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:23:41 -0000 On 2013-02-24 23:58, Craig Rodrigues wrote: >On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On 2013-02-24 13:35, Craig Rodrigues wrote: >> >> The makefile glue for building the website assumes that DESTDIR is also >> set to something. Try installing with: >> >> cd ~rodrigc/public_html/doc2/doc >> cd en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs >> >> env DESTDIR="$HOME/public_html/doc1" \ >> make install >> >> Setting DESTDIR during 'make install' for htdocs/ will automatically >> also set DOCDIR to $DESTDIR/data/doc so you don't have to specify it >> too. >> >> To speed up checks for the 'make install' run, it may also be useful >> to set ENLISH_ONLY=yes, so you skip all the translations at first. >> >> What you did ended up installing the Handbook's index.html over the >> doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/index.xsl output. > > Ah OK, thanks for the tip. > Also looking at Glen Barber's script ~gjb/bin/docbuild.sh helped > me understand a lot. Would it be appropriate to add an > example to the fdp primer such as the one below? > > That would have improved my understanding of how to do this. > > It looks like this: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/doc2/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/the-website-install.html I just wrote a couple of small variants of Glen's original script, to explore a few things about our new svn layout: ~keramida/bin/docbuild.sh ~keramida/bin/wwwbuild.sh Once I have run a few tests and I am confident I can explain what to do, I will try to update the fdp-primer. It seems that most of the bits are already there in my docbuild.sh and wwwbuild.sh scripts. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 07:20:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C743A4D4 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3F51C9 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1Q7K0nR050543 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1Q7K0rI050542; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:20:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:20:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201302260720.r1Q7K0rI050542@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Jason Helfman Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F000B458 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgh@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F0C19A for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1Q7CMOm049505 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:12:22 GMT (envelope-from jgh@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jgh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1Q7CMTG049504; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:12:22 GMT (envelope-from jgh) Message-Id: <201302260712.r1Q7CMTG049504@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:12:22 GMT From: Jason Helfman To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.114 Subject: docs/176435: [patch] [articles/committers-guide] update gnats mirroring section X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Helfman List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:20:00 -0000 >Number: 176435 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] [articles/committers-guide] update gnats mirroring section >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Feb 26 07:20:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jason Helfman >Release: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r245102: Sun Jan 6 15:01:33 UTC 2013 root@freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEFALL amd64 >Description: GNATS mirroring information needs to be updated, as it currently reflects deprecated methodology. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: article.xml =================================================================== --- article.xml (revision 41047) +++ article.xml (working copy) @@ -2299,33 +2299,21 @@ - You can run a local copy of GNATS, and then integrate the FreeBSD - GNATS tree in to it using CVSup. Then you can run GNATS commands - locally. - This lets you query the PR database without needing to be connected to - the Internet. + You may run a local copy of GNATS, and then integrate the FreeBSD + GNATS tree by creating an rsync mirror. + Then you can run GNATS commands locally, allowing you to query the PR + database without an Internet connection. Mirroring the GNATS Tree - It is possible to mirror the GNATS database by adding this line - to your supfile. Note that since - GNATS is not under CVS control it has no tag, so if you are adding - it to your existing supfile it should appear - before any tag= entry as these remain active once set. + It is possible to mirror the GNATS database by installing + rsync found under net/rsync in the portstree, and + executing the following: - gnats release=current prefix=/usr + &prompt.user; rsync -va rsync://bit0.us-west.freebsd.org/FreeBSD-bit/gnats . - This will place the FreeBSD GNATS tree in - /usr/gnats. You can use a - refuse file to control which categories to - receive. For example, to only receive docs PRs, - put this line in - /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/refuse - The precise path depends on the *default - base setting in your - supfile. - . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 08:02:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF299284; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2CC328; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C0A14D2508; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:02:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kalZiHb_EuQC; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:02:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [152.66.168.174] (dhcp-174.q.wlan.net.bme.hu [152.66.168.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36B2214D242D; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:02:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <512C6C15.7080705@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:02:29 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Rodrigues Subject: Re: How to build FreeBSD doc web pages? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:02:33 -0000 Em 24-02-2013 22:35, Craig Rodrigues escreveu: > I am trying to fix some text in the FreeBSD docs, > and am trying to build the FreeBSD docs and web pages > so I can view the output HTML as I am fixing things. There are three main use cases: 1, To build the whole documentation set (web and docs) cd doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs make all install DESTDIR=/home/gabor/public_html/webtest 2, To build documentation only (without web): cd doc make all install DOCDIR=/home/gabor/public_html/doc 3, Only build one specific article/book: cd doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/article/foobar make all install DOCDIR=/home/gabor/public_html/doc Note the difference in using either DESTDIR or DOCDIR. (Yes, this is confusing and should be rethought. The doc build needs some improvements.) Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 12:49:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E0519E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE01FF for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id x48so3359537wey.23 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 04:49:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition; bh=QIZp+4gCDQvfYwtBF2ajX+ZNYb/xenVlzt/4JhNPkRA=; b=f2d1U4avhzB6QX4V2djiXQ/7CT9zneQ2LWVMHyzHLxM/CkMER4PzkQaSyWVVQyu8as cVMmCQceME8DVOut1x4KUoQVaWdxsTLzhpCs9AbqEtTRBYkmtLxnVeO0ZHZjLwiX7TGT xcKu+AutVMlaxMI5TOj3tToATyIn2iUe0YD8N5YJph8cb94Ml54f1PWl0iEffYRUT3qo z/QBa5fhfe130l2z1vpJJn4pMwf+71jrv/QQBuFn4fCbcML8221lLyadjqMcCpAb51yy wALHBhomB0YChUrCnsRINkLb9+z23XXam17FCzvmE4Lf/PnyzhsKbB8RDyVvapeDqxwH wD4w== X-Received: by 10.181.12.103 with SMTP id ep7mr19083635wid.12.1361882979090; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 04:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fx5sm1725902wib.11.2013.02.26.04.49.37 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 04:49:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:49:34 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Do we care for manpage links in elements? Message-ID: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:49:40 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone, I just noticed that in all the places where a chapter <title> includes a &an.xxx.section; entity the rendering in HTML output sucks a bit. Note how there are two separate links in the 'Using rc(8) Under FreeBSD' title in the following screenshot: http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/rc8-title-link.png The <title> itself becomes an <a>...</a> element, but when a &man.xxx.y; macro is included in the title, the final rendering becomes: <a link="foo"> some text <a href="manpage link">manpage name</a> maybe more text </a> The embedded <a> terminates the first link, and the first </a> terminates the second link, so we end up with the broken rendering pf the screenshot and two _different_ links in the same sentence. Is there any way to automatically detect this and translate the embedded <a> element that &man.xxx.y; generates to something harmless, like <span>? If not, do we really care for &man.xxx.y; in titles, or should we just replace them with plain text? --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEsr1wACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7YX8ACgqJgE0IWZLlAy0E9tqw88HLqn J4AAn3znpB0IxLTv0GHJAizndnkil1vL =Ooln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 13:44:21 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D82AD31 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E515C377 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id p43so3584663wea.10 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:44:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=D38vlG2gKMzoYNyFgi9FbEWV2agyVMBAe3FKNDaVdEI=; b=KAq3KDxxlYNKIooFTXDOFL6VKOLL5piCCEeFbdypzV0CS5iKJqqOsxsfaHGeU8mzWJ sBuNHvv/FVUCtLYQtsAMUMAd1Yp5qT24blDMsZNJv2i3r8scT09bHAdLnVk+bIP60kcr re4QXrYmTuA5AQtJ3MupY80iwX9umjvV0IGQUkNrCUJG0vJnyLRLK4S2RWsiUGgTHCLP e9mTWAhGVhjfEEoGiKsnZs7eTNDCGtpIQMfhYc+43wrGwZblO0I2ngGD12LixVmieO54 rTn2fYuI8TRq48Qr6Iy9ATm/F51XOJhuMTeG1dG9iNtt1IhiGMlk5NDeTFHXEv6H/wfr 4hvA== X-Received: by 10.194.19.135 with SMTP id f7mr4242642wje.27.1361886260046; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n10sm2084322wia.0.2013.02.26.05.44.18 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:44:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas <gkeramidas@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:44:15 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do we care for manpage links in <title> elements? Message-ID: <20130226134414.GA8899@saturn> References: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:44:21 -0000 On 2013-02-26 13:49, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just noticed that in all the places where a chapter <title> includes a > &an.xxx.section; entity the rendering in HTML output sucks a bit. Note > how there are two separate links in the 'Using rc(8) Under FreeBSD' > title in the following screenshot: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/rc8-title-link.png This sort of diff fixes the title-link rendering: http://bitbucket.org/keramida/doc-work/commits/d44757193d819f1c950f0236801a37ef77d4711a But this is admittedly a "hack", and the optimal solution would be to conditionally render &man.foo.N; differently in <title> elements. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 15:49:17 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6F9E43; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.25.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC28B3F; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 1209190c-b7f046d00000094c-0f-512cd97bd8d1 Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id E5.23.02380.B79DC215; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id r1QFnFGf008594; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:49:15 -0500 Received: from multics.mit.edu (SYSTEM-LOW-SIPB.MIT.EDU [18.187.2.37]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id r1QFnDBo011953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:49:15 -0500 Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id r1QFnDre020133; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:49:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:49:13 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Do we care for manpage links in <title> elements? In-Reply-To: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> Message-ID: <alpine.GSO.1.10.1302261048430.9389@multics.mit.edu> References: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrOIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6noltzUyfQYFMDo8WpM12sFqsXezsw ecz4NJ8lgDGKyyYlNSezLLVI3y6BK2NT5xa2gheMFc+OZDYwbmLsYuTkkBAwkVj2+jYrhC0m ceHeerYuRi4OIYF9jBLXly5khnA2Mko0TvoI5Rxiknj/+i87hNPAKNH9vBFsFouAtsTq5iYW EJtNQEVi5puNbCC2iICOxLWnb8HizALSEg3rNzOB2MICdhIbp+9jBrE5gXobTrWyg9i8Ag4S b248B6sXEtCSmNi2BaxeFGjO6v1TWCBqBCVOznwCNdNS4tyf62wTGAVnIUnNQpJawMi0ilE2 JbdKNzcxM6c4NVm3ODkxLy+1SNdQLzezRC81pXQTIyg8OSV5djC+Oah0iFGAg1GJh/fHFZ1A IdbEsuLK3EOMkhxMSqK82TeAQnxJ+SmVGYnFGfFFpTmpxYcYJTiYlUR4Px4AyvGmJFZWpRbl w6SkOViUxHkvp9z0FxJITyxJzU5NLUgtgsnKcHAoSfD+ug7UKFiUmp5akZaZU4KQZuLgBBnO AzT8AUgNb3FBYm5xZjpE/hSjopQ4rzrIRQIgiYzSPLheWPp4xSgO9IowryJIFQ8w9cB1vwIa zAQ0OPEq2OCSRISUVANjitYT+x/3BZ6oVV7dd+aomuGyF9f11S3txeOVv0Xz3vDudROP4pmQ 9zrllFPPhz/6taU8RTv/W37a43k1apbtK5Wg1Z8Z1vMxRd6NXepgs04gX/tQjsHP1jM3/x/i 57QzvcQxZcX7mS0LTh7P3nx25nFz1ukLrz07r6O9TKpvg9NFUducG691lViKMxINtZiLihMB vlY5ivoCAAA= Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:49:17 -0000 On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > If not, do we really care for &man.xxx.y; in titles, or should we just > replace them with plain text? I'm inclined to say we should not use entities in titles at all. -Ben From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 16:03:31 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C58764C; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from homiemail-a90.g.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcaib.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDBDCE2; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a90.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a90.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DABA2AC18E; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 06:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lab (ip72-219-240-45.dc.dc.cox.net [72.219.240.45]) (Authenticated sender: trhodes@fbsdsecure.org) by homiemail-a90.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4D26B2AC189; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 06:45:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:45:28 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Do we care for manpage links in <title> elements? Message-Id: <20130226094528.6cff2a60.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20130226134414.GA8899@saturn> References: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> <20130226134414.GA8899@saturn> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:03:31 -0000 On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:44:15 +0100 Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On 2013-02-26 13:49, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I just noticed that in all the places where a chapter <title> includes a > > &an.xxx.section; entity the rendering in HTML output sucks a bit. Note > > how there are two separate links in the 'Using rc(8) Under FreeBSD' > > title in the following screenshot: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/rc8-title-link.png > > This sort of diff fixes the title-link rendering: > http://bitbucket.org/keramida/doc-work/commits/d44757193d819f1c950f0236801a37ef77d4711a > > But this is admittedly a "hack", and the optimal solution would be to > conditionally render &man.foo.N; differently in <title> elements. Change the title "Using Run Control (RC)" -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 17:19:14 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C386F9; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com (mail-wg0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A0E1129; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id fg15so3536221wgb.13 for <multiple recipients>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:19:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=vjHWWGtRI1d/foQzRBlDQ/5VK/BvceGZRzGfiE7bNTg=; b=CP5Kq+HkDYj87Csac461y3eb2eDPW2ohOgC5v7Cu85309EzyX9s473rlMwZJUal4mI c0mFFB11Nn0W/Fd2iYTnFW1jbpZpjjc44G3kHEhbswaBCd49LtMFZOaL5k9zxnN6WPfy YOtT2GsKJKaOsA88Lx//H7nCM6V48BwhbV4wsnArnmAeX1cHgVdDWs2d3c6OR1Agwbtl WuwDF20tBb3rfLkYyUi7yKpVr4Iomp4/EwB26BVP9G+XuVR9tPTEHxnh+96mmYiRM7LI lFRXYyR0ckOSjlXYqX0nKZvIMx4b9PiKxR7TF3P0oen57esW1p3uEWAs8iZyjZpzfW/Z Tghg== X-Received: by 10.180.105.67 with SMTP id gk3mr20782453wib.31.1361899152554; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o8sm22303456wix.7.2013.02.26.09.19.10 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:19:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas <gkeramidas@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:19:07 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> To: Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Do we care for manpage links in <title> elements? Message-ID: <20130226171905.GA10642@saturn> References: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> <20130226134414.GA8899@saturn> <20130226094528.6cff2a60.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130226094528.6cff2a60.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:19:14 -0000 On 2013-02-26 09:45, Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:44:15 +0100 Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>On 2013-02-26 13:49, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> I just noticed that in all the places where a chapter <title> includes a >>> &an.xxx.section; entity the rendering in HTML output sucks a bit. Note >>> how there are two separate links in the 'Using rc(8) Under FreeBSD' >>> title in the following screenshot: >>> >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/rc8-title-link.png >> >> This sort of diff fixes the title-link rendering: >> http://bitbucket.org/keramida/doc-work/commits/d44757193d819f1c950f0236801a37ef77d4711a >> >> But this is admittedly a "hack", and the optimal solution would be to >> conditionally render &man.foo.N; differently in <title> elements. > > Change the title "Using Run Control (RC)" This is not the only case where <title> embeds a &man.xxx.N; link, so I think we need a more general plan for all of them :-) %%% kobe:/hg/freebsd/doc-work/en_US.ISO8859-1$ grep -r '<title>.*\&man\..*\.[0-9];' . ./articles/nanobsd/article.xml: <title>Using &man.ftp.1; ./articles/nanobsd/article.xml: Using &man.ssh.1; ./articles/nanobsd/article.xml: Using &man.nc.1; ./books/arch-handbook/jail/chapter.xml: &man.jail.2; System Call ./books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.xml: <filename>.profile</filename>, for &man.sh.1; and ./books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.xml: <title><filename>.cshrc</filename>, for &man.csh.1; and ./books/handbook/bsdinstall/chapter.xml: <title>Writing the Image with &man.dd.1; ./books/handbook/config/chapter.xml: Tuning with &man.sysctl.8; ./books/handbook/config/chapter.xml: &man.sysctl.8; Read-only ./books/handbook/disks/chapter.xml: Using &man.sysinstall.8; ./books/handbook/disks/chapter.xml: Serial Access with &man.sa.4; ./books/handbook/disks/chapter.xml: Swap Encryption with &man.gbde.8; ./books/handbook/disks/chapter.xml: Swap Encryption with &man.geli.8; ./books/handbook/install/chapter.xml: Writing the Image with &man.dd.1; ./books/handbook/mac/chapter.xml: The &man.mac.seeotheruids.4; Module ./books/handbook/mac/chapter.xml: The &man.mac.bsdextended.4; Module ./books/handbook/mac/chapter.xml: The &man.mac.ifoff.4; Module ./books/handbook/mac/chapter.xml: The &man.mac.portacl.4; Module ./books/handbook/mac/chapter.xml: The &man.mac.partition.4; Module ./books/handbook/mac/chapter.xml: Error: &man..secure.path.3; cannot stat ./books/handbook/users/chapter.xml: <title>Adding a Group Using &man.pw.8; ./books/handbook/users/chapter.xml: Adding a New Member to a Group Using &man.pw.8; ./books/handbook/users/chapter.xml: Using &man.id.1; to Determine Group Membership kobe:/hg/freebsd/doc-work/en_US.ISO8859-1$ %%% If there are no serious objections I'll convert all of these to the text-only version of the same manpage(section) at first, to fix the immediate rendering problem. Then if/when I find a way to automatically do the right thing in elements, I'll do that too. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 17:45:37 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2651021B; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAF11254; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1QHjZsJ046544; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:45:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r1QHjZYe046541; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:45:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:45:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Do we care for manpage links in <title> elements? In-Reply-To: <20130226171905.GA10642@saturn> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1302261041560.46495@wonkity.com> References: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> <20130226134414.GA8899@saturn> <20130226094528.6cff2a60.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20130226171905.GA10642@saturn> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:45:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:45:37 -0000 On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2013-02-26 09:45, Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:44:15 +0100 Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>> On 2013-02-26 13:49, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> I just noticed that in all the places where a chapter <title> includes a >>>> &an.xxx.section; entity the rendering in HTML output sucks a bit. Note >>>> how there are two separate links in the 'Using rc(8) Under FreeBSD' >>>> title in the following screenshot: >>>> >>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/rc8-title-link.png >>> >>> This sort of diff fixes the title-link rendering: >>> http://bitbucket.org/keramida/doc-work/commits/d44757193d819f1c950f0236801a37ef77d4711a >>> >>> But this is admittedly a "hack", and the optimal solution would be to >>> conditionally render &man.foo.N; differently in <title> elements. >> >> Change the title "Using Run Control (RC)" > > This is not the only case where <title> embeds a &man.xxx.N; link, so I > think we need a more general plan for all of them :-) Agreed. If valid markup produces broken output, it's the toolchain's fault and should be fixed. Should man page or other entities be used in titles? Sure. Using a different term in the title than in the text only makes things less consistent for the reader. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 17:53:52 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39F34B8 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9981438 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id r6so3753801wey.5 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:53:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=pM0UM0JR49Sy8PUREDQ1uN+aXdqlhtGFEnYtBHClXuE=; b=c1cNBetsv6xrw1IzKYKTHYtCEjGKUUYpBCQCU08XuhkoYB0NsI0fEuxULKLw5ADsgL krIbSCzT/O+++xS0yKDHDUN775U6Wb4m8Px7086QZl8uqduTziiwlFdXzldVgoCIle15 C8q+Qr/gVE2oh3jjFCEnSosoDbS1OjTacLq5nfTJwjgRMdCctXE/+dSlaUHlF2vADOhT Q41eWA0Sb2l68cwNzjgfYIvixmioP0L/3nNsbH04A20X1WYToDh1MwHSy7V7ZZgLjfm+ 3SYqkWrJID0oCogv+YdHJporm+jd5c7/YReGtON/yA7b/lkH5Psh8M8CGglfFG8byqVN ylIA== X-Received: by 10.194.158.198 with SMTP id ww6mr28174267wjb.44.1361901230508; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m6sm3480715wic.2.2013.02.26.09.53.48 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:53:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas <gkeramidas@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:53:45 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Subject: Re: Do we care for manpage links in <title> elements? Message-ID: <20130226175343.GB10642@saturn> References: <20130226124932.GA7258@saturn> <20130226134414.GA8899@saturn> <20130226094528.6cff2a60.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20130226171905.GA10642@saturn> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1302261041560.46495@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1302261041560.46495@wonkity.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:53:52 -0000 On 2013-02-26 10:45, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrote: >On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2013-02-26 09:45, Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>>On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:44:15 +0100 Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>>>On 2013-02-26 13:49, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>>>>Hi everyone, >>>>>I just noticed that in all the places where a chapter <title> includes a >>>>>&an.xxx.section; entity the rendering in HTML output sucks a bit. Note >>>>>how there are two separate links in the 'Using rc(8) Under FreeBSD' >>>>>title in the following screenshot: >>>>> >>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/rc8-title-link.png >>>> >>>>This sort of diff fixes the title-link rendering: >>>>http://bitbucket.org/keramida/doc-work/commits/d44757193d819f1c950f0236801a37ef77d4711a >>>> >>>>But this is admittedly a "hack", and the optimal solution would be to >>>>conditionally render &man.foo.N; differently in <title> elements. >>> >>>Change the title "Using Run Control (RC)" >> >>This is not the only case where <title> embeds a &man.xxx.N; link, so I >>think we need a more general plan for all of them :-) > > Agreed. If valid markup produces broken output, it's the > toolchain's fault and should be fixed. > > Should man page or other entities be used in titles? Sure. Using a > different term in the title than in the text only makes things less > consistent for the reader. The 'naive' thing to do is to manually remove the &man.xxx.1; links from title elements: http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida//patch-no-title-man-links.diff Replacing the double nested <a>...</a> element does indeed fix the rendered output. I'm gonig to dig into the DSSSL code that renders <email> elements to see if I can selectively disable this when <email>'s parent element is a <title>. "It shouldn't be so hard" (famous last words). From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 20:47:02 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5121789C for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groundup2360917182914017@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61C41E6B for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hm6so5205264wib.8 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:46:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gcaDrgvYNySJnOtkbXMUjdahhqux1Qai90ZJQbEQTIc=; b=v0pFNg5MkyKFkrnx8Md6nSpcAW7aRL5vkQem1oKPoqdZNyK8MtEHfT30cvo6YE+3Fx p70gs9dzHwMjhXs2WUM2+GnRgV0YB74iQjbMRP1lxyKmGessD4z5zggO0RWoLPkJ9hTM ArHSoQ/2Qi0NTfL8ty+K+IUeo6hJDLxK+dxw969y3uDITTSaw4ZIeNLEeEZ1x06jsNKj ZB7AgefiNSnvhMolzSL1U/t11/RpFR4Gbg5RiTBrBofaYZjUWcy6K6buO7vMeH2LFEOo 4sLK333pXcMU3/IOPblmb5rQGtGHwZibqUlJJqZZsGDaWLbvVTNA8imCXBMjjL9QGOBc ALqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.19.135 with SMTP id f7mr6867273wje.27.1361911614917; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.242.207 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:46:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:46:54 -0500 Message-ID: <CAKwMmavLkipwYLT7=CtEQ4FbRUCgFfkJbvEM=fUBhCT=pLFM9g@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook From: Anthony Brown <groundup2360917182914017@gmail.com> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:47:02 -0000 Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook on freebsd 64 bit assembly language using the c standard library. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 20:50:01 2013 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09700A04 for <freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E195A1EB2 for <freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1QKo0rU069062 for <freebsd-doc@freefall.freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:50:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1QKo0Ap069056; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:50:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:50:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201302262050.r1QKo0Ap069056@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Tom <trh411@gmail.com> Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C67D9AD for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374BC1EA1 for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1QKn3El048391 for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:49:03 GMT (envelope-from nobody@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r1QKn3MQ048390; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:49:03 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201302262049.r1QKn3MQ048390@red.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:49:03 GMT From: Tom <trh411@gmail.com> To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Subject: docs/176451: (patch) Handbook Ch 25.7 typos and incidental edits X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project <freebsd-doc.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc>, <mailto:freebsd-doc-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:50:01 -0000 >Number: 176451 >Category: docs >Synopsis: (patch) Handbook Ch 25.7 typos and incidental edits >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Feb 26 20:50:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tom >Release: 9.1-RELEASE GENERIC >Organization: N/A >Environment: >Description: Suggested corrections to typos and incidental editing of FreeBSD Handbook, Chapter 25, Section 7. Ref: /en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.xml (r41051) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Patch attached. Patch attached with submission follows: --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.xml 2013-02-18 13:25:18.000000000 -0500 +++ chapter.xml 2013-02-26 14:42:20.000000000 -0500 @@ -1813,8 +1813,8 @@ up-to-date, refer to <xref linkend="synching"/> for detailed help about synchronizing to a newer version.</para> - <para>Updating the system from source is a more subtle than - it might initially seem to be, and the &os; developers have + <para>Updating the system from source is a more subtle process + than it might initially seem to be, and the &os; developers have found it necessary over the years to change the recommended approach fairly dramatically as new kinds of unavoidable dependencies come to light. The rest of this section @@ -1858,7 +1858,7 @@ </listitem> <listitem> - <para>Some configuration changes must be done before the new + <para>Some configuration changes must be made before the new world is installed, but others might break the old world. Hence, two different configuration upgrade steps are generally needed.</para> @@ -1946,7 +1946,7 @@ <para><command>mergemaster</command></para> <para>Repeated to update the remaining configuration files, - not that the new world is on disk.</para> + now that the new world is on disk.</para> </listitem> <listitem> @@ -2217,7 +2217,7 @@ <para><emphasis>Do not</emphasis> save the output in <filename class="directory">/tmp</filename> as this directory may be cleared at next reboot. A better place to save the file is - <filename class="directory">/var/tmp</filename>or in + <filename class="directory">/var/tmp</filename> or in <username>root</username>'s home directory.</para> </sect3> @@ -2234,8 +2234,7 @@ <para>To rebuild the world, use &man.make.1;. This command reads instructions from the <filename>Makefile</filename>, which describes how the programs that comprise &os; should - be rebuilt and the order in which they should be - built.</para> + be built and the order in which they should be built.</para> <para>The general format of the command is as follows:</para> @@ -2542,7 +2541,7 @@ <sect3> <title>Manual Update - To instead perform the update manually, do not just copy + To perform the update manually instead, do not just copy over the files from /usr/src/etc to /etc and expect it to @@ -2580,7 +2579,7 @@ Next, build a dummy set of directories to install the new /etc and other - files into. /var/tmp/root is a reasonable choice: @@ -2898,7 +2897,7 @@ Turn off profiling by setting NO_PROFILE=true in - /etc/make.conf). + /etc/make.conf. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 21:56:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA6B48 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494962A9 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F4D14D242F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:56:46 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id EFn7mkm60qSK for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:56:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (5403A6BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.166.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D773D14D242C for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:56:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <512D2F9C.8080403@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:56:44 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [CFR] Migrating the documentation to a real XML toolchain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:56:53 -0000 Hi, I have some improvements for the doc infrastructures in the xml-tools branch. I think that the changeset is now getting mature enough to be merged back so I'd like to ask for review. It does not affect the web pages, only books and articles. The rendered docs are available at: http://people.freebsd.org/~gabor/db45/ For every article/book, you will find there the chunked XHTML docs or if you manually enter the URL, you can access the single XHTML and PDF versions as (article|book)\.(html|pdf). The branch contains the following changes: - Upgrade to DocBook 4.5 - Use XSLT instead of DSSSL to render XHTML-based output - Fix make lint and validate the whole documentation set - Add support for XInclude in DocBook documents - Add experimental epub support - Add experimental support for XSL-FO-based printed output - Clean up obsolete SGML constructs - Clean up catalogs - Drop HTML Tidy since it is not needed any more To build the branch manually, you need docbook-450 apart from the usual docproj stuff. However, several dependencies are not needed any more and will be dropped later from the docproj port, namely: - textproc/opensp - www/tidy-lib - textproc/html - textproc/linuxdoc - textproc/docbook-xml Please let me know about bugs, comments, ideas, etc. Thanks, Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 22:30:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EE56AA for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67824684 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1QMU0KX088299 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1QMU0LF088298; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:30:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201302262230.r1QMU0LF088298@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Jason Helfman Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B4A543; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgh@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C9E62A; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1QMN4e7088088; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:23:04 GMT (envelope-from jgh@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jgh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1QMN4rx088087; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:23:04 GMT (envelope-from jgh) Message-Id: <201302262223.r1QMN4rx088087@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:23:04 GMT From: Jason Helfman To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.114 Subject: docs/176455: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag Cc: bapt@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Helfman List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:30:00 -0000 >Number: 176455 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Feb 26 22:30:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jason Helfman >Release: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r245102: Sun Jan 6 15:01:33 UTC 2013 root@freefall.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEFALL amd64 >Description: NLS section example wasn't converted to new options framework Encountered a issue when building where a closed "literal" tag was never opened. line 7608 /usr/local/bin/openjade:/home/jgh/workspace/docs/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.xml:7608:10:E: end tag for element "literal" which is not open >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: book.xml =================================================================== --- book.xml (revision 41051) +++ book.xml (working copy) @@ -5749,14 +5749,18 @@ GNU_CONFIGURE= yes -.if !defined(WITHOUT_NLS) +.include <bsd.port.options.mk> + +.if ${PORT_OPTIONS:MNLS} USE_GETTEXT= yes PLIST_SUB+= NLS="" .else CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --disable-nls PLIST_SUB+= NLS="@comment " -.endif +.endif +.include <bsd.port.mk> + The next item on your to-do list is to arrange so that the message catalog files are included in the packing list conditionally. The Makefile part of @@ -7599,6 +7603,12 @@ PKGNAMEPREFIX= ${PYTHON_PKGNAMEPREFIX} + Generally, if PKGNAMEPREFIX is set, the + port should require a py- port origin prefix. + For example, + /usr/ports/sysutils/py-myport + + Most Useful Variables for Ports That Use Python >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 22:33:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CFB745 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-src@helfman.org) Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com (mail-ve0-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FBA6B2 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 14so4533651vea.29 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:33:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=d2LmeyQpgWVn0y0KG0dEH8Nzokn/vgAB8mt2UfsvljE=; b=FMUcS0KBqddr5kg34hZKtPU3c/c+Vcxh/pEz+bSrV6SppTafifZYAsiQmfkLQjMY4h 3/n/pF/8JfIPHMR7kjPYSvJXaI93j5Xihzs03/csR7U9uBbueYHZrpOs65bAFazBHk5c RnyJzww2RJWppg32vjdJu3Zz6uyJxdsRH5JRV0viTc6Y+3XiI1KFqbjQ7QRY8daa42Ib 3Ub5iQOTkJ1JNiMB4HgSdhbAuCsBRHHZXqJ5RYbR3eWB8Sg4ORQQfno7D1Ybd35iml4u voMZ3IPtAGgt1i3I2lF0iF1oOJab+Tf6xWkZxe+fsKQkANFLlJG5XO5jbV8v7+phYzXs s2zw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.188.48 with SMTP id fx16mr12950991vec.22.1361917994799; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:33:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: bsd-src@helfman.org Received: by 10.58.223.104 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:33:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201302262230.r1QMU0vx088291@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <201302262223.r1QMN4rx088087@freefall.freebsd.org> <201302262230.r1QMU0vx088291@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:33:14 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1Ps5kt3rFpUocY0HGmXcKvciUPs Message-ID: Subject: Re: docs/176455: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag From: Jason Helfman To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, bug-followup@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmr4gAuJxLdnQXZGswQ+Tvqtg7/HYSaJeQeC+8CKu3rWw4YBpkZj2zkjc8a5YvLnnUClqPw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:33:16 -0000 Please forgive me.... This was something that I was working on that hasn't be committed, I believe at this time.... The second blob does not need to be applied. -jgh -- Jason Helfman | FreeBSD Committer jgh@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh | The Power to Serve On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:30 PM, wrote: > Thank you very much for your problem report. > It has the internal identification `docs/176455'. > The individual assigned to look at your > report is: freebsd-doc. > > You can access the state of your problem report at any time > via this link: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=176455 > > >Category: docs > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >Synopsis: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for > NLS, fix a closed literal tag > >Arrival-Date: Tue Feb 26 22:30:00 UTC 2013 > > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 22:40:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8A37F2 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C40A6EF for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1QMe14p089921 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1QMe1X3089920; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:40:01 GMT Message-Id: <201302262240.r1QMe1X3089920@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Jason Helfman Subject: Re: docs/176455: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Helfman List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:40:01 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/176455; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jason Helfman To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/176455: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:33:14 -0800 --089e01229cb64b2e1104d6a83eda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please forgive me.... This was something that I was working on that hasn't be committed, I believe at this time.... The second blob does not need to be applied. -jgh -- Jason Helfman | FreeBSD Committer jgh@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh | The Power to Serve On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:30 PM, wrote: > Thank you very much for your problem report. > It has the internal identification `docs/176455'. > The individual assigned to look at your > report is: freebsd-doc. > > You can access the state of your problem report at any time > via this link: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=176455 > > >Category: docs > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >Synopsis: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for > NLS, fix a closed literal tag > >Arrival-Date: Tue Feb 26 22:30:00 UTC 2013 > > --089e01229cb64b2e1104d6a83eda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please forgive me.... This was something that I was workin= g on that hasn't be committed, I believe at this time....

The second blob does not need to be applied.
-jgh

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:30 PM, <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org> wrote:
Thank you very much for your problem report.
It has the internal identification `docs/176455'.
The individual assigned to look at your
report is: freebsd-doc.

You can access the state of your problem report at any time
via this link:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D176455

>Category: =A0 =A0 =A0 docs
>Responsible: =A0 =A0freebsd-doc
>Synopsis: =A0 =A0 =A0 [patch][book/porters-han= dbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag
>Arrival-Date: =A0 Tue Feb= 26 22:30:00 UTC 2013


--089e01229cb64b2e1104d6a83eda-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 00:28:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B95BA0B for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-src@helfman.org) Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C9CCEB for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id hz1so54903pad.10 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:28:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :x-operating-system:organization:x-living-the-dream :x-pgp-fingerprint:x-pgp-key:user-agent:x-gm-message-state; bh=lHRlTagRiHOCO0oC6eUuqqoKO29AuPKmh/luEiMS4L8=; b=PHc9x33FeYrEyxeKyO8NW34oSo1KCXSGYhn1n4wk/Wkl9Kbqs4xMhWKbgat9JNSgYg Hh6bFP9hHbc+OSqBKsoOHyOhtQq110dLOVrNsIPngGtCRU8OcQK+qIweVHMyTFOJYv7+ LS6NDW9M449C5N2yOVPz2zeWcpmzDkyUddIAFDrWe1j7BPmu+AqAnnfUYs0mPTDiN6qI YDU421+Qx1o7BB+YNzn/OwRwNO98u615PKIW6IDJJu165Fz0wRZAcnkdkGdIlt77rkEJ VrFokVD6qK1IkLDfWMxZu6GtubJgsVj8C6BT5te8xG/3PxcFM7Do7CdPJj02a9K1apxM rgLg== X-Received: by 10.68.191.106 with SMTP id gx10mr329001pbc.151.1361924900341; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hatter (adsl-64-161-57-202.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net. [64.161.57.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w2sm3103737pax.22.2013.02.26.16.28.18 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:28:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: Jason Helfman Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:25:02 -0800 From: Jason Helfman To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/176455: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag Message-ID: <20130227002502.GA63678@hatter> References: <201302262223.r1QMN4rx088087@freefall.freebsd.org> <201302262230.r1QMU0vx088291@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201302262230.r1QMU0vx088291@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 i386 Organization: The FreeBSD Project, http://www.freebsd.org X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! X-PGP-FingerPrint: 8E0D C457 9A0F C91C 23F3 0454 2059 9A63 4150 D3DC X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh/jgh.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk4+66ko2RDSR2sejfm+KaercGHjje8W11SR6mImcI3APjdi/GK3nQWs1WbotowwWRtcStP Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:28:22 -0000 For completeness, here is the updated patch: Index: book.xml =================================================================== --- book.xml (revision 41051) +++ book.xml (working copy) @@ -5749,14 +5749,18 @@ GNU_CONFIGURE= yes -.if !defined(WITHOUT_NLS) +.include <bsd.port.options.mk> + +.if ${PORT_OPTIONS:MNLS} USE_GETTEXT= yes PLIST_SUB+= NLS="" .else CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --disable-nls PLIST_SUB+= NLS="@comment " -.endif +.endif +.include <bsd.port.mk> + The next item on your to-do list is to arrange so that the message catalog files are included in the packing list conditionally. The Makefile part of -- Jason Helfman FreeBSD Committer | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh | The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 00:30:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9B2A89 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD039D06 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1R0U1K5017492 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:30:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1R0U1IN017491; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:30:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:30:01 GMT Message-Id: <201302270030.r1R0U1IN017491@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Jason Helfman Subject: Re: docs/176455: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Helfman List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:30:01 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/176455; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jason Helfman To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/176455: [patch][book/porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:25:02 -0800 For completeness, here is the updated patch: Index: book.xml =================================================================== --- book.xml (revision 41051) +++ book.xml (working copy) @@ -5749,14 +5749,18 @@ GNU_CONFIGURE= yes -.if !defined(WITHOUT_NLS) +.include <bsd.port.options.mk> + +.if ${PORT_OPTIONS:MNLS} USE_GETTEXT= yes PLIST_SUB+= NLS="" .else CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --disable-nls PLIST_SUB+= NLS="@comment " -.endif +.endif +.include <bsd.port.mk> + The next item on your to-do list is to arrange so that the message catalog files are included in the packing list conditionally. The Makefile part of -- Jason Helfman FreeBSD Committer | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh | The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 01:24:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB6B778; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDB0F67; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1R1OXYt049487; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:24:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r1R1OX03049484; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:24:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:24:33 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: [CFR] Migrating the documentation to a real XML toolchain In-Reply-To: <512D2F9C.8080403@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <512D2F9C.8080403@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:24:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:24:34 -0000 On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > I have some improvements for the doc infrastructures in the xml-tools branch. > I think that the changeset is now getting mature enough to be merged back so > I'd like to ask for review. It does not affect the web pages, only books and > articles. The rendered docs are available at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~gabor/db45/ > > For every article/book, you will find there the chunked XHTML docs or if you > manually enter the URL, you can access the single XHTML and PDF versions as > (article|book)\.(html|pdf). Thanks for all your work on this! Noticed when looking at the English version of the Handbook: Author info is a little off. Compare the authors at the start of the bsdinstall chapter: http://people.freebsd.org/~gabor/db45/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html In the standard version, each section is rendered as a sentence, with multiple authors separated by commas. Acronyms don't have any highlights, they just look like normal text. Table rendering in the new version looks better than the old on the svn mirrors. Notes, tips, and warnings are not shown in color boxes. Examples are, though. Callout labels are missing, although the explanations below are present. See "2.4.1.3. Booting for SPARC64": http://people.freebsd.org/~gabor/db45/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html#bsdinstall-boot-loader-menu http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html#bsdinstall-boot-loader-menu Pictures (screenshots) are missing: http://people.freebsd.org/~gabor/db45/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-bsdinstall.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-bsdinstall.html Man page entities are not links, just text. are rendered in bold. Just a difference, not necessarily a problem: http://people.freebsd.org/~gabor/db45/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/GEOM-mirror.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html Thanks again! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 01:30:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225459BB for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3968F99 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1R1UTed049530; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:30:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r1R1UTlL049527; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:30:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:30:29 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Anthony Brown Subject: Re: Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:30:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:30:30 -0000 On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Anthony Brown wrote: > Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook on > freebsd 64 bit assembly language using the c standard library. Interesting. But maybe a tutorial would be better as a separate article. 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Yes! These sort of articles are very useful to new developers seeking a platform on which to practice. I'd be happy to review for documentation as well as content. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 20:47:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21003EB1; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE726E40; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1RKldcw074351; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:47:39 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1RKldUc074347; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:47:39 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:47:39 GMT Message-Id: <201302272047.r1RKldUc074347@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, eadler@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/176455: [patch][porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:47:40 -0000 Synopsis: [patch][porters-handbook] convert to optionsNG for NLS, fix a closed literal tag Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->eadler Responsible-Changed-By: eadler Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Feb 27 20:47:39 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=176455 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 20:57:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6971B216; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eadler@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413C4ED7; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1RKvADF076055; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:57:10 GMT (envelope-from eadler@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from eadler@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r1RKvAQV076051; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:57:10 GMT (envelope-from eadler) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:57:10 GMT Message-Id: <201302272057.r1RKvAQV076051@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eadler@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, eadler@FreeBSD.org From: eadler@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/176451: (patch) Handbook Ch 25.7 typos and incidental edits X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:57:10 -0000 Synopsis: (patch) Handbook Ch 25.7 typos and incidental edits Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->eadler Responsible-Changed-By: eadler Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Feb 27 20:57:09 UTC 2013 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=176451 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 21:42:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11A41D9 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ddwood@highdensity.org) Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832511F9 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id um15so632241pbc.28 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:42:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent:x-gm-message-state; bh=cKzqiWlL7jKXywgGN33Moe+EgOmKROyXXslVhPc8hEY=; b=pzlXBc9y0gyEm5I61YAogO8eFDL2FEsU6QhrKjtk6N0b4j8tUO8ByNUBHIIYFNKHUq yfoy3EatNLvaKkMbzNl+noh9KoTSMYlCOQg9Tl7b9aN+aKKhCkpoutZDvR7XOABvc6rr DEN+UCopeaBuiPosMS5dSNsrWcK8dXvVbOKTmgUlFFM7oO2D1mP8t2dAG7LSwCXO/bY+ MEaBzNzclwQJifp3Hq7foAoAX1cghJnl9mfpVLu71h2nfX87LYPZg7EU+bgk5R2DBFhq XxuX067HTnQfQRFvgSLdODzT4zQzpNi/xmAASb35k3JqLXT15Ha3igIeajq069AQeGDA m6/A== X-Received: by 10.68.252.70 with SMTP id zq6mr5683691pbc.136.1362001341674; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from yavin (ip68-231-151-161.tc.ph.cox.net. [68.231.151.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pp1sm3273408pac.7.2013.02.27.13.42.19 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:42:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:42:07 -0700 From: Derek Wood To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook Message-ID: <20130227214207.GA18227@yavin> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm8SxACGLfjVNQ9iOVhWPDxKecdKuwvn5n8tw1sAz8gk1elSUX4AR2d13fqPOoLJ+YzYt0e X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:42:27 -0000 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:30:29PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Anthony Brown wrote: > > >Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook on > >freebsd 64 bit assembly language using the c standard library. > > Interesting. But maybe a tutorial would be better as a separate > article. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I don't feel strongly about this either way, but the current assembly tutorial is already in the developer's handbook, and I don't think topic of "FreeBSD assembly language tutorial" should be split between two pages. I did a bit of digging, and there isn't really a clear picture on how the original article got there either. I did a bit of digging, and there isn't much in the way of PRs or commits, and the only mailing list post about it was a request to link to it from the tutorials page. I suspect that there wasn't a discussion about it, but if there was, it would be interesting to know the details. 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Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5BA1209 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D084614D2515; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:22:49 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bVozgGE3UuWp; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:22:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [152.66.168.85] (dhcp-85.q.wlan.net.bme.hu [152.66.168.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABCBC14D242C; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:22:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <512F13DC.80305@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:22:52 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Brown Subject: Re: Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:22:51 -0000 Em 26-02-2013 21:46, Anthony Brown escreveu: > Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook on > freebsd 64 bit assembly language using the c standard library. It would be awesome! We really need more content for developer docs. I can help out with the DocBook markup. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 28 08:27:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECCE3D8 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9D4123B for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF2314D2512 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:27:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id i3IORzqdKfRg for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:27:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [152.66.168.85] (dhcp-85.q.wlan.net.bme.hu [152.66.168.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 126D114D242C for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:27:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <512F14DA.1010009@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:27:06 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook References: <20130227214207.GA18227@yavin> In-Reply-To: <20130227214207.GA18227@yavin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:27:09 -0000 Em 27-02-2013 22:42, Derek Wood escreveu: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:30:29PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >> >On Tue, 26 Feb 2013, Anthony Brown wrote: >> > >>> > >Would enough people like a tutorial in freebsd developer handbook on >>> > >freebsd 64 bit assembly language using the c standard library. >> > >> >Interesting. But maybe a tutorial would be better as a separate >> >article. >> > I don't feel strongly about this either way, but the current assembly > tutorial is already in the developer's handbook, and I don't think > topic of "FreeBSD assembly language tutorial" should be split between > two pages. I would also prefer having it in developers' handbook. It would be really practical to have a single developer documentation just like handbook for users. I think it would be a good objective to put some efforts into this once the printed handbook is out. Gabor From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 28 18:36:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF57E6E; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE90ACB; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emphyrio.blackend.org (unknown [88.179.1.53]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3556882374; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:36:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from emphyrio.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by emphyrio.blackend.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1SIZxJi001894; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:35:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@emphyrio.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by emphyrio.blackend.org (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id r1SIZxpB001893; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:35:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:35:59 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: doc/ slush for 8.4R begins on 17 March, 2013 Message-ID: <20130228183559.GD1585@emphyrio.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gatW/ieO32f1wygP" Content-Disposition: inline X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:36:10 -0000 --gatW/ieO32f1wygP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, The doc slush will begin on 17 March, 2013. =20 The purpose of the doc slush is to slow down the rate of change in that tree in order to allow the translation teams time to finalize their work and to avoid last-minute breakage for the 8.4-RELEASE. As usual, this is not a real freeze and requires no formal commit approval procedure for your commit, but you are kindly requested not to commit large, structural changes during that period. Tagging of the doc tree is scheduled to take place on 31 March, 2012. Thank you for your cooperation and keep up the good work! --=20 Marc with doceng@ Hat --gatW/ieO32f1wygP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFRL6OOzQ9RwE+OdOgRAh7ZAKDfnkkuBu0RV99Ek59k5UV9zHJcugCfRu/4 WV/3provbh4J+U8w3tTTeiM= =pJoN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gatW/ieO32f1wygP-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 28 19:53:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7769D65; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sib@tormail.org) Received: from outgoing.tormail.org (outgoing.tormail.org [82.221.96.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78029EE4; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=internal.tormail.org) by outgoing.tormail.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UB9Xh-0002PJ-P3; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:53:29 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tormail.org; s=tm; h=Message-Id:X-TorMail-User:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Cc:To:From:Subject:Date; bh=FusOKvF6S4GcDbEwkrS+EkT1QNxybUqnP9lqeZl8WOk=; b=ms/+7cr9yGiB1a9Z2NLW7K/tWcx+tDog4ChhCF1UkqflCkGOt5wiCuPemTZVPZ777t8CfeL7807S+ATrVzIL/yRYYnwIm6RnvwAFZ9Nuhq1t/2auEdiBBCqazaAlo+ytsHQKVOLobUPd3IQcxWcze2G3atCjlkVyj8LEFIMRDes=; Received: from sib by internal.tormail.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:50:52 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:50:52 -0000 Subject: BSD For Linux Users (update) From: sib@tormail.org To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Importance: High X-TorMail-User: sib Message-Id: <1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ@internal.tormail.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:53:38 -0000 Hi -advocacy, -chat, -doc. I'm sure most of you are familiar with this page: https://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/01 Since I started using FreeBSD, it's been the go-to link to send to people asking "why should I use BSD over Linux" or "what makes FreeBSD so great?" or even just "what are the differences?" I still send this link to new users because a lot of it has withstood the test of time, and still applies to today's environment. However, there are some things that have definitely changed in our OS that I think should be added. This article really needs to be modernized to today's standards with a list of updated tools and methods. I've tried contacting the person who wrote it about getting it updated, even offering to do so myself, but never got a reply. My question to you: Would anyone here be interested in updating it (or just helping a bit) to be more accurate with the modern FreeBSD world, and has a place to host it that we can link to? I think this would really be a nice improvement and help us teach more new users about how we do things. Also, a few official pages on freebsd.org are growing a bit old (references to CVS, etc.) and might need similar treatment: FreeBSD: An Open Source Alternative to Linux https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-comparison/article.html FreeBSD Quickstart Guide for Linux Users https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/index.html Comparing BSD and Linux https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html I'm going to begin going through all of these pages in the next few days and see what needs to be updated and how much work this will be, but I would greatly appreciate any help from the community! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 1 09:50:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52DFB6B for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7C12D3 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r219o03H008337 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:50:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r219o0E5008336; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:50:00 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:50:00 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201303010950.r219o0E5008336@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Dola Marco Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4096D0 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from red.freebsd.org (red.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF11725F for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r219e5Dk094868 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:40:05 GMT (envelope-from nobody@red.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by red.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r219e51Y094867; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:40:05 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <201303010940.r219e51Y094867@red.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:40:05 GMT From: Dola Marco To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Subject: docs/176583: getifaddrs man - struct ifa_data not exist X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 09:50:01 -0000 >Number: 176583 >Category: docs >Synopsis: getifaddrs man - struct ifa_data not exist >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 01 09:50:00 UTC 2013 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dola Marco >Release: 9.1 Release >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The man page for getifaddrs(3) says: For all other address families, it contains a pointer to the struct ifa_data (as defined in include file ) which contains per‐address interface statistics. 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[68.231.151.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm13736704pax.23.2013.03.01.09.34.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Mar 2013 09:34:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:33:57 -0700 From: Derek Wood To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD For Linux Users (update) Message-ID: <20130301173357.GA3267@yavin> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ@internal.tormail.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ@internal.tormail.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlpZQS8Htncy2Qc8wlgWtffd13S3kk04oQnphTby7t12gadLECw8rpmarSZquLdhlcbE6kW X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:34:09 -0000 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 07:50:52PM -0000, sib@tormail.org wrote: > My question to you: Would anyone here be interested in updating it (or > just helping a bit) to be more accurate with the modern FreeBSD world, and > has a place to host it that we can link to? I think this would really be a > nice improvement and help us teach more new users about how we do things. > > Also, a few official pages on freebsd.org are growing a bit old > (references to CVS, etc.) and might need similar treatment: > > FreeBSD: An Open Source Alternative to Linux > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-comparison/article.html > FreeBSD Quickstart Guide for Linux Users > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/index.html > Comparing BSD and Linux > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html > > I'm going to begin going through all of these pages in the next few days > and see what needs to be updated and how much work this will be, but I > would greatly appreciate any help from the community! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" My suggestion would be to host it on wiki.freebsd.org and then eventually convert it into an article or chapter of the handbook. If you don't have an account for the wiki you can drop by #bsddocs or #bsdports on efnet and someone will get you sorted. As for the article, I think it would be most productive to examine which of those you linked can be replaced with the document you intend to write, then make sure that the new document includes the information of the outgoing documents. We don't really need >3 "Linux vs FreeBSD" articles, just one really good one. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 1 19:09:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D1BCA3 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from db@db.net) Received: from diana.db.net (unknown [IPv6:2620:64:0:1:223:7dff:fea2:c8f2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E2A1077 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from night.db.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by diana.db.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C1C2AA630 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:09:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by night.db.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 717571CC43; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:08:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:08:48 -0500 From: Diane Bruce To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD For Linux Users (update) Message-ID: <20130301190848.GA10978@night.db.net> References: <1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ@internal.tormail.org> <20130301173357.GA3267@yavin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130301173357.GA3267@yavin> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:09:56 -0000 On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 10:33:57AM -0700, Derek Wood wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 07:50:52PM -0000, sib@tormail.org wrote: > > My question to you: Would anyone here be interested in updating it (or > > just helping a bit) to be more accurate with the modern FreeBSD world, and > > has a place to host it that we can link to? I think this would really be a > > nice improvement and help us teach more new users about how we do things. > > I've been wanting this done for quite some time. I'm spread very thin. Please do it. :-) > > Also, a few official pages on freebsd.org are growing a bit old > > (references to CVS, etc.) and might need similar treatment: > > > > FreeBSD: An Open Source Alternative to Linux > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-comparison/article.html > > FreeBSD Quickstart Guide for Linux Users > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/index.html > > Comparing BSD and Linux > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html > > > > I'm going to begin going through all of these pages in the next few days > > and see what needs to be updated and how much work this will be, but I > > would greatly appreciate any help from the community! > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > My suggestion would be to host it on wiki.freebsd.org and then > eventually convert it into an article or chapter of the handbook. If > you don't have an account for the wiki you can drop by #bsddocs or > #bsdports on efnet and someone will get you sorted. > > As for the article, I think it would be most productive to examine > which of those you linked can be replaced with the document you intend > to write, then make sure that the new document includes the > information of the outgoing documents. We don't really need >3 "Linux > vs FreeBSD" articles, just one really good one. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Diane -- - db@FreeBSD.org db@db.net http://www.db.net/~db From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 1 19:49:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C83AF89 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CCE124D for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r21Jcwi4053417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:38:58 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <513103D2.7000502@fjl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:38:58 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD For Linux Users (update) References: <1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ@internal.tormail.org> <20130301173357.GA3267@yavin> <20130301190848.GA10978@night.db.net> In-Reply-To: <20130301190848.GA10978@night.db.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:49:20 -0000 On 01/03/2013 19:08, Diane Bruce wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 10:33:57AM -0700, Derek Wood wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 07:50:52PM -0000, sib@tormail.org wrote: >>> My question to you: Would anyone here be interested in updating it (or >>> just helping a bit) to be more accurate with the modern FreeBSD world, and >>> has a place to host it that we can link to? I think this would really be a >>> nice improvement and help us teach more new users about how we do things. >>> > I've been wanting this done for quite some time. I'm spread very thin. > > Please do it. :-) > > >>> Also, a few official pages on freebsd.org are growing a bit old >>> (references to CVS, etc.) and might need similar treatment: >>> >>> FreeBSD: An Open Source Alternative to Linux >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-comparison/article.html >>> FreeBSD Quickstart Guide for Linux Users >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/linux-users/index.html >>> Comparing BSD and Linux >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html >>> >>> I'm going to begin going through all of these pages in the next few days >>> and see what needs to be updated and how much work this will be, but I >>> would greatly appreciate any help from the community! >>> > Thank you. > > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> My suggestion would be to host it on wiki.freebsd.org and then >> eventually convert it into an article or chapter of the handbook. If >> you don't have an account for the wiki you can drop by #bsddocs or >> #bsdports on efnet and someone will get you sorted. >> >> As for the article, I think it would be most productive to examine >> which of those you linked can be replaced with the document you intend >> to write, then make sure that the new document includes the >> information of the outgoing documents. We don't really need >3 "Linux >> vs FreeBSD" articles, just one really good one. >> _______________________________________________ >> I've been thinking about this since it was posted yesterday. The old article was a little subjective where I'd have preferred if it were not. He does say he's a FreeBSD fan, that it was a rant, and that the article is justifying this point of view, so I can hardly complain to the author. I wrote something similar to this a long while back, but I can't find it. I think it was for print, so Google hasn't helped. It strikes me that different people use FreeBSD (and Linux) in completely different ways. I always talk to it using ssh, so comparisons about X-Window, desktops and graphics cards are irrelevant. If a new universal article was produced it would need input from different perspectives. There are also important technical differences that seem to have arisen since the original article. For example, IIRC, Linux still uses block devices (i.e. block cached) whereas I remember reading a rant somewhere in the FreeBSD manual explaining that this was probably introduced to the UNIX kernel by Beelzebub himself and FreeBSD was now well rid of it due to the well known difficulty reporting errors to the process that performed a write, and the fact it was confusing the character-level driver code. The minutia of this argument is beyond me, but I can't help feeling that modern (caching) disk subsystems mean that we're actually no better off from a safety standpoint, and might be seeing a performance hit. And is having ZFS a trump card? Another big plus about compiling from source code - I've just got BIND 9.9 running on an ARM-based Raspberry Pi. It didn't take long, and I didn't have to do anything much different from a familiar RELEASE i386 system. (If anyone else wishes to try this, 9.8 is easier...) Linux may be cross-platform too, but the binary packages aren't! (And that's before we get to x86 CPU-specific optimisations compiled in). And don't forget SMP. The original blog post contained spirited praise of the concept of a base system, ports and releases; in my mind a tad over-done. I think it would benefit from explanation of other technical differences too, of the type that only a wider team could assemble. So if anyone's doing this, please count me and my perspective in. It will give me something to do while I locate my missing Zip drive collection ;-) Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 2 00:59:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CED87BC; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 00:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (server.infocus-llc.com [206.156.254.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53EE1F8B; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 00:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-75-65-60-66.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [75.65.60.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5AAD137B4E4; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 18:53:34 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 3ZHps93xR4zDcp; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 18:53:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 18:53:33 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: sib@tormail.org Subject: Re: BSD For Linux Users (update) Message-ID: <20130302005333.GI22008@over-yonder.net> References: <1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ@internal.tormail.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1UB9VE-0002eY-EQ@internal.tormail.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-fullermd.4 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:59:23 -0000 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 07:50:52PM -0000 I heard the voice of sib@tormail.org, and lo! it spake thus: > > However, there are some things that have definitely changed in our > OS that I think should be added. This article really needs to be > modernized to today's standards with a list of updated tools and > methods. I've tried contacting the person who wrote it about getting > it updated, even offering to do so myself, but never got a reply. "'e's not dead, 'e's resting." It is on my todo list to do a round of updates on it. Sadly, it has been for a while; I've been kept too busy lately to do much more than get through the day. On the upside, I don't expect it to be a huge amount of work to update. By its nature, it's oriented on the broad sweeps and philosophical differences, and those don't change. The history is rather flown by, and there are a few details that call for update, to be sure. But by and large, the points I wanted to make with it are just the same now (near a decade later) as they were at the time; FreeBSD is still FreeBSD, and Linux is still Linux. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. 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