From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 19 19:21:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC9E8B9 for ; Sun, 19 May 2013 19:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chagin.dmitry@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22b.google.com (mail-la0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7559676 for ; Sun, 19 May 2013 19:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id ez20so4522344lab.2 for ; Sun, 19 May 2013 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=iD3n4ln5rKv+nVmy9SwxA4zaTU1orgAIQ2uqSX8W1NE=; b=Wuc1KXJWWn0CY8lRDXNZhAbI3itaJesmw8kSpHkzGgz7YX49a1XZi5JIbLO0J26Qmm sIKYw3aaApm/uBC4iLY2HQ9UjUwAwZ9ewlJZ0CGs+MaGIUaaw7NtgzyOdLXRxZ7sgftL JaZovNT8+/EJw7Vnev85N00ciqWUUcYtLpaPx0aavr29kpFXYgzqb7NGkBQjQ5juFb4h SNaecCx+P6/FPnAz+v38J0KCSTcIo2hRN+PgI248cMPMpuRBPv+KSlJN6Tv6UR6Er1HX R4rdkXYSJ3ypjXYUJobqxY5kDgaHIhoeTmLerTw5d2xSDZl+3Pvr9X0fXbTGhPckG2qV YUgQ== X-Received: by 10.112.137.9 with SMTP id qe9mr26262617lbb.64.1368991276599; Sun, 19 May 2013 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dchagin.static.corbina.net (dchagin.static.corbina.ru. [78.107.232.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f9sm3170549lbf.4.2013.05.19.12.21.15 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 May 2013 12:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Dmitry Chagin Received: from dchagin.static.corbina.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dchagin.static.corbina.net (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r4JJLEvk007727; Sun, 19 May 2013 23:21:14 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from dchagin@dchagin.static.corbina.net) Received: (from dchagin@localhost) by dchagin.static.corbina.net (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id r4JJLDr9007726; Sun, 19 May 2013 23:21:13 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from dchagin) Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 23:21:13 +0400 From: Chagin Dmitry To: Zaphod Beeblebrox Subject: Re: Linux and Steam and libc.so.6 Message-ID: <20130519192113.GA7704@dchagin.static.corbina.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 19:21:18 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 03:25:33AM -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > As far as I can tell, our current linux emulation platform is based on > Fedora "10." As far as I can tell, this was released in November 2008 > (going on 5 years ago) and was EOL as of December 2009 (my source is > wikipedia). Wow. >=20 try $FSVN/base/user/dchagin/lemul I can provide f18 port for u. > Until now, I have ignored (mostly) where the linux emulation came from --- > most binaries distributed for linux are substantially pessimistic about > what linux you're running. >=20 > Enter Steam for Linux. It seems to depend on _very_ recent linux. If > you're using Debian, you must run "unstable" Wheezy rather than whatever > stable is called. Worse, Steam servers ... long running on some of my > FreeBSD servers, are now converting to the new Steam linux world ... and > are now starting to not run under FreeBSD's old linux port. >=20 > Some questions... >=20 > 1. Most of the hoopla seems to be over libc.so.6 --- is there any chan= ce > we can have that with or without upgrading to a newer copy of fedora (= or > whatever) in ports? > 2. I notice that newer fedora releases are using 3.x linux kernels. A= re > binaries using 3.x kernels a problem for FreeBSD's linux kernel mod? > 3. Are there some quick patches to running l4d/l4d2/tf2 and/or > killingfloor servers on FreeBSD? >=20 > I realize, with the state of our 3D stuff, expecting Steam games to run m= ay > be too much --- but the servers have always been and should always be easy > to support. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Have fun! chd --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlGZJikACgkQ0t2Tb3OO/O1t5wCfWVgHspvcOqzFAWKq8fCXRV/g 0KMAoLs+aSfni18cN8AhRIdoPOcMda2v =Z5Eu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW--