From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 26 00:07:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596A1586 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 00:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu (wmauth2.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A28F88 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 00:07:56 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.01(7.0.4.27.0) 64bit (built Aug 30 2012)) id <0MND00E00MEHB700@smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 May 2013 18:07:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-2, Version=6.0.2.2308539, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2013.5.25.230019, SenderIP=0.0.0.0 X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=0.0.0.0 Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (adsl-76-208-69-84.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net [76.208.69.84]) by smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.01(7.0.4.27.0) 64bit (built Aug 30 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MND0047UMX1FL20@smtpauth2.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 May 2013 18:07:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <51A14445.4060305@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 18:07:49 -0500 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130410 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction References: <51A0DC3F.9030301@cran.org.uk> <51A1025A.2020607@cran.org.uk> In-reply-to: <51A1025A.2020607@cran.org.uk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 00:07:57 -0000 On 05/25/13 13:26, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 25/05/2013 17:15, Matt Olander wrote: >> From my vague recollection, we discussed improving bsdinstall by tying >> it in with pc-sysinstall, which we've been threatening to do for at >> least a year. Also, there was much discussion about Devin's bsdconfig >> perhaps tying in with a Google SoC Project. >> >> I think Devin was nominated for most of the work, since he was unable >> to defend himself :P > > Thanks. From previous discussions with Devin I think he has other > plans for the installer that don't involve pc-sysinstall. But since it > seems the future is all sh(1) code, I won't be able to contribute. > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/PCBSDInstallMerge lists a few limitations > with pc-sysinstall - are these being fixed? > I'm not aware of any movement there (on either side of the table). I'd personally be very suspicious of an all-sh(1) future -- by far the cleanest parts of bsdinstall are in C -- and this is especially true for interacting with geom. That said, since I've lost nearly all of my free time and ability to work on bsdinstall, I won't get in the way of anyone else working on things -Nathan