From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 1 17:30:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27A8D2 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 17:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5878FC08 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 17:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id fp12so4970575lab.41 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E+CVfahmxlgtPS5t2LJz4th2tGG/BC/9YYCB6HaUyyo=; b=CTRsMRN36mWdBpsSVSBAxp4zoAZwCMLtYrXm8PNWRpSMsFwDq/2lXXf4Ln8VD1X/ri z7yTAyGXB15rfZHLmU2gAnqxMQz6kvNzbk4FdQ6BoJH3yA3lWxQaGVTKyT8LA93B+C46 8fwN8q97YyoouRgpIzieOwoC1wbRyDZLMv2fE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=E+CVfahmxlgtPS5t2LJz4th2tGG/BC/9YYCB6HaUyyo=; b=O5T+RVP9VPAsVXKZOO8kTj0wq7xterz8QH+nIRKYoOHZm0KS+pITNCIFt6evKhYTAI wL3fwykqdzo4oMd3RRSu1JIz1Gyejqa803OFygbRXaq5SbClq3hbHV030YbWu1A09/XL jsb1YqhEojxe6nutY/PV34p9knYcuNVUXRLTjSRs34EEj/EDrtsdZfsSzb1YWvFW/vDG ZxQXlPkD9XfBFWs5+qeKbRVSoECSF8o+E6IhgxCmfnFHdMV3nbIjc0qNRhPucB5heEQq ejJvahynMn4cA1s1BtxZigfQIXC/0Bc+xFpqCaHm/2nOKucymA4hPc0QcR+w4KqQYN8L SUSQ== Received: by 10.112.101.232 with SMTP id fj8mr16650096lbb.83.1357061399500; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.87.102 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 09:29:29 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 12:29:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: supporting AR8161/8165 To: yongari@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQki5dyiGUB6mZGzLR5oZwpKou3rptJURpIKxYTm1PRrzx6lLV53tbvG88uWsl8tr/PwkL/q X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 17:30:01 -0000 Hey, Are there any plans to support the AR8161/8165 chipset? [ none2@pci=E2=80=A6 class=3D0x02000 card=3D0x397917aa chip=3D0x10911969 re= v=3D0x08 hdr=3D0x00 ] --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 2 01:26:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FBB18F; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 01:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A9B8FC08; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 01:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id mc8so7541722pbc.4 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 17:26:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:date:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=FHXbFH1wTyjAqP7zaEGTJkrCVtwNnnNmYFNbAW9N6TE=; b=Zg6RHP6Za63H9t4Z1EfLYX/46rAfwdwxLEZMOyGWxw4sB4IknlpOFfM2fFcUrNt8LX eipYvqO6HmlEE7rJs23+wTSW0SwPKyJkrWZSsQOeHJZEfr2XlVX7K6yP+94yxLcYz2Yy IF1OAXkpyR304WOnrjtkZJcSjbfKhJ5OjHeFIGBYybq2AjLHWbN7/ciBUa10pC3EB3Ka +EPC6gSew3bkul5VWqElBew8kxsZvsEfSqDV4D0a7dmegAsD/VgjH3xdc2oApUGyz326 QJaW/gUpHKSYEY/UJUBEofP7TqUqeH+IbYQp8oyNf0wiaW9Mpe8JLWqaOytL4ptJP/MW d8DQ== X-Received: by 10.68.138.137 with SMTP id qq9mr142059794pbb.74.1357089977675; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 17:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pyunyh@gmail.com (lpe4.p59-icn.cdngp.net. [114.111.62.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a4sm28308859paw.21.2013.01.01.17.26.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 17:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by pyunyh@gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:26:05 +0900 From: YongHyeon PYUN Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:26:04 +0900 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: supporting AR8161/8165 Message-ID: <20130102012604.GA6382@michelle.cdnetworks.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, yongari@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 01:26:23 -0000 On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:29:29PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hey, > > Are there any plans to support the AR8161/8165 chipset? > [ none2@pci… class=0x02000 card=0x397917aa chip=0x10911969 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 ] > Don't know about AR8165 but your controller looks like AR8161 (L1F) Gigabit Ethernet. When I contacted QAC(Qualcomm Atheros Communications) to get an engineering board for AR8161/AR8162 I was told that QAC is working on unified driver for Linux/FreeBSD. It seems their plan was to release a Linux/FreeBSD driver that supports all AR81xx family. However it appears their endeavor was not successful and Linux wanted to pick up the new driver for L1F/L2F controllers only rather than replacing existing drivers with QAC's new one. This decision made QAC to overhaul Linux driver (alx) to follow Linux's decision and their priority was to get a stable Linux driver. It was long time ago and I don't know current status. QAC already donated a couple of engineering samples so I guess it wouldn't take a long time for me to write a driver for AR816x/AR817x but I still have mixed feelings about writing a driver at this moment. > -- > Eitan Adler > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 2 02:48:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C08FE for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 02:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0EC8FC08 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 02:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id fe20so5439024lab.1 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 18:48:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=65ML6VVFe59MkZPUzAD8VRmskMQngACabYQzSg0RSPM=; b=JI6Ppo+SQthzfG6V/jTgeW+eF1l86kTclKCFHr/se5nFZIPy9ukg14B+fgiD1bNqch dhuTrO2Hx7yHdSyWyzRrUOEOOkCC4VPuNA/tpRx1cVkCvbQWnm00L/4vcHwmgK9SkPwX 4vsWP40Yl5QpbXt15esA6oTMqI8Xwz/Ne/7zU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=65ML6VVFe59MkZPUzAD8VRmskMQngACabYQzSg0RSPM=; b=oO8Coj0LFrNzhz+3DY/FbT6dgwpMXfTOLvTgL9jIHN6JtBQMA4cBUXambAX9Z1LpLd PqvEzpwEMjnvCbpPNqA5FebYLHT7B45ZMQ9eOlhBW+0dzzbleWq3zWuCzsku7P99RJMu f6SS7nixcQOTeI2rw4jJm3Tj5PaG40YvdxONakz/w0owOEwBFOthWNMs1zil8h+o1XV/ ah919DhiIaDz7m7x5u1eMAUvuzlt/7oxsmF6+juzi5mRQTojT1d3uak4wu4T7IM/vpCm BbZyV2eWQ3yI/CU6rsz/FY1lypwUGgG1O2Qk5IiozK+DK22Upk5F8dxMfNjm6TyUYZ1Z 4ZrA== Received: by 10.152.114.65 with SMTP id je1mr43097656lab.33.1357094879892; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 18:47:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.87.102 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jan 2013 18:47:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130102012604.GA6382@michelle.cdnetworks.com> References: <20130102012604.GA6382@michelle.cdnetworks.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 21:47:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: supporting AR8161/8165 To: pyunyh@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlnph1DlLXq/HpzSLfl2T44I25pz7W1hocneXnX2e4hn0SfUkCAguFcVk14Ui8JUjlnc662 Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, yongari@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 02:48:02 -0000 On 1 January 2013 20:26, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:29:29PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: >> Hey, >> >> Are there any plans to support the AR8161/8165 chipset? >> [ none2@pci=E2=80=A6 class=3D0x02000 card=3D0x397917aa chip=3D0x10911969= rev=3D0x08 hdr=3D0x00 ] >> > This decision made QAC to overhaul Linux driver > (alx) to follow Linux's decision and their priority was to get a > stable Linux driver. It was long time ago and I don't know current > status. :( > QAC already donated a couple of engineering samples so I guess it > wouldn't take a long time for me to write a driver for > AR816x/AR817x but I still have mixed feelings about writing a > driver at this moment. Why the mixed feelings? The more hardware we support out of the box the more likely it is that users will stick with FreeBSD. If I could tell people that "yes, this laptop completely works with FreeBSD" that would be awesome. --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 2 03:37:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C846870 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 03:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f171.google.com (mail-gg0-f171.google.com [209.85.161.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBF68FC08 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 03:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gg0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 4so2110436ggm.16 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 19:37:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7pG49HJLL0Cq2wTMYQx3jN6hz2Uw1idB6b7lQUy0DWM=; b=PDhF/PVpZ6rZJEAwamlXd/+JD8avtDGdBGRFtQgNxXIvefyzU78oCfOP4hiLq4AlVI AjoAhd6M4b++sVDrEaaQQokq5+20N6Jhc6+785rxlIxsU3ZkVwsbB52xqF5nlzHKVR2o 50RhEX03l2dSDVHPIgQd6VX2/zvS3kI9y1LqIqIrKssZQSEc4qkJvyes/f7wIOLJJIwl l/BCXUm5jcuXE0jxS5HXlIeisfiKE3wtzil6Hi5ewCZPKirb9kSXXOIpc8iSb90c1uDk d33aAAXzdl5tCyW2pZRjLNUgesuqpM6vCdMpW3A7zcW2vAgGx69V0vJosOxz+sW6eUdD s1sg== X-Received: by 10.236.121.207 with SMTP id r55mr38534074yhh.75.1357096148731; Tue, 01 Jan 2013 19:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. [204.116.254.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f14sm38197245anl.0.2013.01.01.19.09.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 19:09:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50E3A4D1.1020209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 21:09:05 -0600 From: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: supporting AR8161/8165 References: <20130102012604.GA6382@michelle.cdnetworks.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 03:37:14 -0000 On 01/01/13 20:47, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 1 January 2013 20:26, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:29:29PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: >>> Hey, >>> >>> Are there any plans to support the AR8161/8165 chipset? >>> [ none2@pci… class=0x02000 card=0x397917aa chip=0x10911969 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 ] >>> >> > This decision made QAC to overhaul Linux driver >> (alx) to follow Linux's decision and their priority was to get a >> stable Linux driver. It was long time ago and I don't know current >> status. > > :( > >> QAC already donated a couple of engineering samples so I guess it >> wouldn't take a long time for me to write a driver for >> AR816x/AR817x but I still have mixed feelings about writing a >> driver at this moment. > > Why the mixed feelings? The more hardware we support out of the box > the more likely it is that users will stick with FreeBSD. > > If I could tell people that "yes, this laptop completely works with > FreeBSD" that would be awesome. > If I might jump in, I would love to tell people I know the same thing, but I cannot because /my/ wifi card isn't supported (and, as I understand it, mine is because the hw vendor apparently likes it like that). I am finding FreeBSD to be great on a desktop/server, but I need to be mobile with my laptop and not tied to an ethernet card or a ndist hack that may or may not cause a kernel panic. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. 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[114.111.62.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n10sm17919551pav.18.2013.01.01.20.32.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Jan 2013 20:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by pyunyh@gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:32:49 +0900 From: YongHyeon PYUN Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:32:49 +0900 To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: supporting AR8161/8165 Message-ID: <20130102043249.GA1453@michelle.cdnetworks.com> References: <20130102012604.GA6382@michelle.cdnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, yongari@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 04:33:07 -0000 On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 09:47:29PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 1 January 2013 20:26, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:29:29PM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> Hey, > >> > >> Are there any plans to support the AR8161/8165 chipset? > >> [ none2@pci… class=0x02000 card=0x397917aa chip=0x10911969 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 ] > >> > > > This decision made QAC to overhaul Linux driver > > (alx) to follow Linux's decision and their priority was to get a > > stable Linux driver. It was long time ago and I don't know current > > status. > > :( > > > QAC already donated a couple of engineering samples so I guess it > > wouldn't take a long time for me to write a driver for > > AR816x/AR817x but I still have mixed feelings about writing a > > driver at this moment. > > Why the mixed feelings? The more hardware we support out of the box > the more likely it is that users will stick with FreeBSD. Having direct vendor support has huge benefit to FreeBSD community and the vendor used to express their willingness to support FreeBSD. I'm afraid the vendor loses interests on supporting FreeBSD if the vendor find a community maintained driver. > > If I could tell people that "yes, this laptop completely works with > FreeBSD" that would be awesome. > > -- > Eitan Adler > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 2 15:02:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AAB4BA for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CEC8FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so6204864lab.3 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:02:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Wdy1G4dMR8vyG2F7Jqo9D2G8TdQmJc/4xBo/2wCilTM=; b=au79lHIoq6Sm6WgyRUKwLSU8LaSFOIIadniwfKpUe7NVTKfYeAT6FG5PTnUz4pnDdE oZxwFcH8GdfmBYZaYkxLffQ/q0CpO/rcnqu2XLqBJZNSVkLO2ORKAKkBxJSr3aOWGR25 hgqHYFsz+IUcgN8gnaRiLCY3qJo/oGKcXs7Gc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Wdy1G4dMR8vyG2F7Jqo9D2G8TdQmJc/4xBo/2wCilTM=; b=bGWq2RzIAIGJx64z6ENCBWN3zKj7TaIUBLGaX211K+wAUNf7fs4lu7ANVqITzSXuH1 bQGqAkQy19Yqmnir0Wj60h7EEeucXswMwbet7o9kcXs1HKNMPmS5CRjV4ssbDtXHAxbb V3SoSxNSL81KliRYIYkGRNjBAYdrQs9HlqBUU74wCf5VJK+DVucYeR2BjBabFsalTJDf 8+vRE/TmhqJ+vgJ44iOLx7auudVMKIMmLngry2Sdn3kHjp1ElDmG3I5uBLLrKjD0bFWJ UtMJwPSlYp73ZvmLApR2tVsTdasSx59Ko5UrCOVshIhyS/sHc8xB83PFPp0Ng/EsHY98 pJvA== Received: by 10.112.10.232 with SMTP id l8mr18911386lbb.69.1357138927205; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:02:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.75.200 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 07:01:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130102043249.GA1453@michelle.cdnetworks.com> References: <20130102012604.GA6382@michelle.cdnetworks.com> <20130102043249.GA1453@michelle.cdnetworks.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:01:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: supporting AR8161/8165 To: pyunyh@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlfTHZq8r0kh9on6H9EXqj24RhogcxPu6WVSqPPBHkyNp+mPWlSxqTwQmsCn0u7lCXd4tkt Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, yongari@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:02:14 -0000 On 1 January 2013 23:32, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > Having direct vendor support has huge benefit to FreeBSD community > and the vendor used to express their willingness to support > FreeBSD. I'm afraid the vendor loses interests on supporting > FreeBSD if the vendor find a community maintained driver. This is a valid concern. Perhaps we could reach out to them and find out what their current interest level is? -- Eitan Adler