From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 1 08:07:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828CF5AA for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@odin.blazingdot.com) Received: from odin.blazingdot.com (odin.blazingdot.com [199.48.133.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A663E89 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by odin.blazingdot.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C65C911415D; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:07:51 +0000 From: Marcus Reid To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Subject: Re: Phoronix comparision of Linux & FreeBSD kernel on Debian Message-ID: <20130301080751.GB15188@blazingdot.com> References: <50C9E3BB.8060105@quip.cz> <20130301080549.GA15188@blazingdot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130301080549.GA15188@blazingdot.com> X-Coffee-Level: nearly-fatal User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:07:52 -0000 On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:05:49AM +0000, Marcus Reid wrote: > > That's the article from December, 2012. Old news. I'm sure you'll find > some discussion if you look at the list archives from around that time. Haha, wow, I didn't realize that I had stumbled into an old mailbox and your email _was_ from Dec. 2012. Low volume list :) My apologies. Marcus From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 1 08:12:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF04711 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@odin.blazingdot.com) Received: from odin.blazingdot.com (odin.blazingdot.com [199.48.133.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9BBEDA for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by odin.blazingdot.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2F60F114155; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:05:50 +0000 From: Marcus Reid To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Subject: Re: Phoronix comparision of Linux & FreeBSD kernel on Debian Message-ID: <20130301080549.GA15188@blazingdot.com> References: <50C9E3BB.8060105@quip.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50C9E3BB.8060105@quip.cz> X-Coffee-Level: nearly-fatal User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:12:55 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 03:18:35PM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > Debian Linux vs. Debian kFreeBSD With Squeeze & Wheezy > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_wheezy_bsd > > They are comparing 4 instances of Debian. kFreeBSD versions are > running with 8.1 and 9.0 kernels. There are some improvements and some > regressions too. That's the article from December, 2012. Old news. I'm sure you'll find some discussion if you look at the list archives from around that time. It's easy to find fault with phoronix's methods but they're some of the only guys doing what they're doing, and I always look forward to new results from them. At the very least, they seem interested in analyzing non-linux platforms hoping to prove linux is superior, and hoping to find ways to improve linux. Which is just fine, but don't expect them to do a lot of tuning to match the reliability/performance tradeoff decisions that were made in linux, which tend more toward fast-and-dangerous by default. Marcus