From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 05:40:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0647586 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AA2280 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id oi10so3466633obb.40 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:40:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CDqkvCEFXp8XOtdl43Ehwih7AON4hSD2pE1yktpGA+s=; b=qo5Ptqmxg4KVfQU4C+PAeZRIDuwSUdrQUjKAbXSl3r3D0iBNwlvTmmV2w/Z7doTVSh 3xd22liH2daoEpTDU72K87CUVScj2cKo2Ou18ksswk2JMbp8bZ9SWnmhBFIZaA8lo3WF D6wxeZ3y6ifeGENTu/5VMKebdTIxraKrc4EYMIKnD9NXfqd4osVGYr1ks2z5wJhMMb6I dRV4r33X3KVXCLafvEP6OErtZzdeMOIDo79cStLo07Z2Y6kzI6rvzBW6c3da5rY/JQ7q NKHDNnMbuyd0GMorHKsh5TjoXNzwmBSJI2kzsOMvkaXWoI8D5inq5bWiJW/WtTkCtZmV elLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.182.101 with SMTP id ed5mr18359292obc.23.1358142047030; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.160.99 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:40:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:40:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Stupid questions on installing From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:40:48 -0000 Are there any special steps in using the usb-image for installing? I am aware that Open Firmware does booting from CD9660 and HFS file systems. Can a serial install be done or even monitored using rl0 to gem0 with a standard ethernet cable? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 11:06:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0FB4DD for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF90656 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0EB6q7f086497 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:06:52 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r0EB6qNe086495 for freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:06:52 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:06:52 GMT Message-Id: <201301141106.r0EB6qNe086495@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:06:52 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o power/175151 ppc Loader fails to load modules on PPC64 o power/170340 ppc Enabling geom-mirror on 9.1-powerpc64 prevents the sys o power/164225 ppc Boot fails on IBM 7028-6E1 (heap memory claim failed) o power/161947 ppc multimedia/libdvdnav builds broken binaries on big end o power/161045 ppc X doesn't detect ADB mouse up event until another even o power/149009 ppc sysinstall(8) on powerpc fails to install manpages, so o power/140241 ppc [kernel] [patch] Linker set problems on PowerPC EABI o power/135576 ppc gdb cannot debug threaded programs on ppc o power/133503 ppc [sound] Sound stutter after switching ttys o power/133382 ppc [install] Installer gets signal 11 o power/131548 ppc ofw_syscons no longer supports 32-bit framebuffer 11 problems total. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 20:35:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C46D7A for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mages.simon@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f46.google.com (mail-bk0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A458EC for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q16so2260560bkw.33 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:35:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5vZL0A1GzP9AojLWkr9vVzdELtdV7mNr19lT1pRweic=; b=c/gsmVCIACyejafFZRYyNg81G/9y+RqpHZYdty6Th9ROs2aRQRmZPwg/XIFSNqcIJa NB91MaQ27hQJYUJAdik6jQv6wmp6aK5LoXFcQFH1SyWclIfOmwaRUFEHH/zTLdXbSnEc uGX9Zg0VXaFpdMMVG8jR2dXNikA+HOS9SjtOPOTQAzSRLKzObX/sPpGnw7cNbxrGBG9n dmseC8oUrYX0H998uYoxVaLiKRdq6CE+POSuZan7PUYmgRUoOkLcUN3qLmB4FWqY6sH9 uvkmIq+oQGg2fSrNbrvnbnPcvRkE3sf3rQMskiEv8DWl8b5uffAXYKnlTjbHdIn9PkL3 P3zA== X-Received: by 10.204.12.206 with SMTP id y14mr39062389bky.132.1358195705291; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from beelzebub (p5499B571.dip.t-dialin.net. [84.153.181.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z5sm11103897bkv.11.2013.01.14.12.35.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:35:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:35:00 +0100 From: Mages Simon To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: PowerMac G5 late 2005 - Nvidia GForce 6600 - only have X Message-ID: <20130114213500.26fbe357@beelzebub> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:35:12 -0000 Hi, i installed Xorg and Gnome2. After that i stated gdm with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm onestart without success. I used X -configure to create a xorg.conf and copied the file to /etc/X11/. After that gdm came up, but X only displays the halve of the gdm. After that i used the NoAccel in the xorg.conf to fix that Problem with the nv driver but without success. Any Ideas? 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[84.153.181.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hm8sm11162727bkc.10.2013.01.14.13.00.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:00:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:00:29 +0100 From: Mages Simon To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PowerMac G5 late 2005 - Nvidia GForce 6600 - only have X Message-ID: <20130114220029.586e856a@beelzebub> In-Reply-To: <20130114213500.26fbe357@beelzebub> References: <20130114213500.26fbe357@beelzebub> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:00:44 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:35:00 +0100 Mages Simon wrote: > Hi, > > i installed Xorg and Gnome2. > > After that i stated gdm with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm onestart without > success. > > I used X -configure to create a xorg.conf and copied the file > to /etc/X11/. > > After that gdm came up, but X only displays the halve of the gdm. > > After that i used the NoAccel in the xorg.conf to fix that Problem > with the nv driver but without success. > > Any Ideas? im using FreeBSD 9.1 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 00:06:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CFEDA6 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aladedragon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D336C0 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so4547172lab.17 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:06:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jTgA1nO4IV86wnX4OjJcQBLyIm29m0LmyUTBg1QOBwQ=; b=UEzyIeOImGA6R0fiPe1dDBnKSqIAH/Dug54HHQM98EGt+mvt/v5EdQhkXhRIi89mIk ySZJBPCAGwWy7bi8LzrAfJeYjb3WFTzwHyKsabaQ69G4ZBB4qX/M8pH6EDlSQMvu7wNF Rp00fZ8sKOjAQVbcnwlovzLYWvv6CDvXxrmUQRNChM5dGnTsVYhAN6zRzkAViQkoaw+/ 0BMHch89QieHSx2Tn5tDCWfKWrlsZvvQxo8eGov6/qnlL+2rG2swVAjHJ6ekAiNwhnSp kZqRr/YPsNUKM7ENHNrt5pIo7uUf+LUg/nw/aNP8aiRc7gUxbglIOz5ri1el57QKfvrJ NcIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.29.10 with SMTP id f10mr35442671lbh.4.1358208389157; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.4.69 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:06:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130114220029.586e856a@beelzebub> References: <20130114213500.26fbe357@beelzebub> <20130114220029.586e856a@beelzebub> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:06:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PowerMac G5 late 2005 - Nvidia GForce 6600 - only have X From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ala_de_Drag=F3n?= To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:06:36 -0000 Hi :D 2013/1/14, Mages Simon : > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:35:00 +0100 > Mages Simon wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> i installed Xorg and Gnome2. >> >> After that i stated gdm with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/gdm onestart without >> success. >> >> I used X -configure to create a xorg.conf and copied the file >> to /etc/X11/. >> >> After that gdm came up, but X only displays the halve of the gdm. >> >> After that i used the NoAccel in the xorg.conf to fix that Problem >> with the nv driver but without success. >> >> Any Ideas? > > im using FreeBSD 9.1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Sorry, my English isn't good so... I was having a problem like you but I didn't solve it: Change the Dvi wire from one connector in the nvidia on to the other connector. My problem was Xorg was unable to know in witch connector was the wire and it use Half screen in one dvi and the other half on to the other dvi. Unplug, boot and plug was my solution. -- "El cielo es para los dragones lo que el agua es para las ninfas" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 02:21:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41186286 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AC6C20 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.54]) by vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0F2Bkxb018633; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:11:46 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix-local-10025) with ESMTP id 69CF3A8434; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:11:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1626.29181.a1); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:11:46 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (pLs7Ar5tVpqm5RiU5xG7pkwxAyR2Bho0cx8/I185DTogX3ovBGM8FZU6YFQ0NyE8) Message-ID: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:11:39 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:21:15 -0000 Hi, I just got a Mac G5 (PowerMac11,2 Dual-core G5 2.0GHz) and I installed FreeBSD 9.1 on it (using a 9.1-release iso image). The problem is that the machine freezes at random(?) times, sometimes sooner, sometimes later. Often, the hang can be accelerated by performing I/O operations (like copying files). Sometimes it won't even start booting after the OF messages---the screen goes blank and no text is shown. What "helps" it boot is typing 'set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"', followed by "boot -v", although I suspect that this is similar to the "more magic" switch, since "sysctl -a" doesn't show any string containing "acpi". The box has 16GB of memory. It passed all ASD tests. What happens is that the LED#7 goes on, the machine freezes (without any kernel message) and shortly after that the fans go at full power until I turn the computer off. I have managed to compile subversion (and the machine survived the compilations), but then it would repeatedly hang while checking out the ports tree. Actually, it hung enough many times to finally corrupt the filesystem causing kernel panic. Since it generally works for a while after booting, I can provide more information, but I don't know where to look. This is meant to be a "server-like" box, so there are some things that I would consider disabling in the kernel, if that would get it to become stable. Any input as to what to do next will be appreciated. -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 03:37:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3B1A16 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD40F12B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:37:31 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (rrcs-24-39-139-99.nyc.biz.rr.com [24.39.139.99]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGN0064QE2APT30@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:37:25 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-3, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2013.1.15.32715, SenderIP=24.39.139.99 X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=24.39.139.99 X-Wisc-Sender: whitehorn@wisc.edu Message-id: <50F4CEF2.6040906@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:37:22 -0800 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org, kristof@swissmail.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> In-reply-to: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:37:31 -0000 On 01/14/13 18:11, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > Hi, > > I just got a Mac G5 (PowerMac11,2 Dual-core G5 2.0GHz) and I installed > FreeBSD 9.1 on it (using a 9.1-release iso image). The problem is that > the machine freezes at random(?) times, sometimes sooner, sometimes > later. Often, the hang can be accelerated by performing I/O operations > (like copying files). Sometimes it won't even start booting after the > OF messages---the screen goes blank and no text is shown. What "helps" > it boot is typing 'set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"', followed by "boot -v", > although I suspect that this is similar to the "more magic" switch, > since "sysctl -a" doesn't show any string containing "acpi". > > The box has 16GB of memory. It passed all ASD tests. > > What happens is that the LED#7 goes on, the machine freezes (without any > kernel message) and shortly after that the fans go at full power until I > turn the computer off. > > I have managed to compile subversion (and the machine survived the > compilations), but then it would repeatedly hang while checking out the > ports tree. Actually, it hung enough many times to finally corrupt the > filesystem causing kernel panic. > > Since it generally works for a while after booting, I can provide more > information, but I don't know where to look. This is meant to be a > "server-like" box, so there are some things that I would consider > disabling in the kernel, if that would get it to become stable. > > Any input as to what to do next will be appreciated. > Have you tried removing some RAM? I have the same machine, but with 5.5 GB, and it's been my daily-use work desktop under FreeBSD for the last 2.5 years with no trouble. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 03:39:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD98C78; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-stable.sentex.ca (freebsd-stable.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:3::6502:9b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E817F163; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freebsd-stable.sentex.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd-stable.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0F3dlrh057794; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:39:47 GMT (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from tinderbox@localhost) by freebsd-stable.sentex.ca (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r0F3dlLU057789; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:39:47 GMT (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:39:47 GMT Message-Id: <201301150339.r0F3dlLU057789@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca> X-Authentication-Warning: freebsd-stable.sentex.ca: tinderbox set sender to FreeBSD Tinderbox using -f Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Subject: [releng_9 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:39:48 -0000 TB --- 2013-01-15 00:46:08 - tinderbox 2.10 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-01-15 00:46:08 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.3-STABLE FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 16 17:37:58 UTC 2012 mdtancsa@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2013-01-15 00:46:08 - starting RELENG_9 tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2013-01-15 00:46:08 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2013-01-15 00:46:08 - checking out /src from svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 TB --- 2013-01-15 00:46:08 - cd /tinderbox/RELENG_9/powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2013-01-15 00:46:08 - /usr/local/bin/svn cleanup /src TB --- 2013-01-15 00:47:10 - /usr/local/bin/svn update /src TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - building world TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - SRCCONF=/dev/null TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - cd /src TB --- 2013-01-15 00:48:53 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Tue Jan 15 00:48:54 UTC 2013 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> World build completed on Tue Jan 15 03:36:23 UTC 2013 TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - /usr/sbin/config -m LINT TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - building LINT kernel TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - CROSS_BUILD_TESTING=YES TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - SRCCONF=/dev/null TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - cd /src TB --- 2013-01-15 03:36:23 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Tue Jan 15 03:36:23 UTC 2013 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies >>> stage 3.2: building everything [...] cc -c -O -pipe -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -Wa,-many -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -mno-altivec -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9001/ar9160_attach.c -I/src/sys/dev/ath -I/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal cc -c -O -pipe -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -Wa,-many -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -mno-altivec -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9002/ar9280_attach.c -I/src/sys/dev/ath -I/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal cc -c -O -pipe -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -Wa,-many -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -mno-altivec -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9002/ar9280_olc.c -I/src/sys/dev/ath -I/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal cc -c -O -pipe -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -Wa,-many -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -mno-altivec -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9002/ar9285_attach.c -I/src/sys/dev/ath -I/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9002/ar9285_attach.c: In function 'ar9285Attach': /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9002/ar9285_attach.c:144: error: 'ath_hal_EepromDataRead' undeclared (first use in this function) /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9002/ar9285_attach.c:144: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar9002/ar9285_attach.c:144: error: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/powerpc.powerpc/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2013-01-15 03:39:47 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2013-01-15 03:39:47 - ERROR: failed to build LINT kernel TB --- 2013-01-15 03:39:47 - 7829.75 user 846.78 system 10418.46 real http://tinderbox.freebsd.org/tinderbox-releng_9-RELENG_9-powerpc-powerpc.full From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 03:41:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0136ADC5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sendtomatt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31C3187 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id bj3so2671572pad.28 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zeG7EZP5A5IqkraHVPQYtDMjp6I51JVHPLesHqtYvLY=; b=JqfzlJTHiYKSKsBC9+nTscEHyw7V22zBV1L5yURnlBVATWaMLJgh6tdqOr+XQRakXq okXwiRu2YMMfUrrxZvLsE2T4RcSyZXk5udelQtlLqNdGBhkwBroBWO0JhMy38yKCSHlH xI3zBYBpf2m2x0NenPoZEJyuesMqN3gX4PM5GHhC+0YjBznoNxtAz2YaPO7fS27ItD+E Pjd3ersgYZ87Bye4HcVIzS2eDxqM+MyDEbqzAoSSP36a7o3TcX5TNXSQpNFeuzi8jw/N 1wKwOidsHa+3QnGJ2AU3xYD/DGln4KOyew2enFl+C4aX1+gr2ZoNoQs3zU5o1uInvkdg hpWA== X-Received: by 10.68.125.195 with SMTP id ms3mr259587035pbb.149.1358221285296; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from flatline.local (70-36-223-239.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net. [70.36.223.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wh4sm3888640pbc.18.2013.01.14.19.41.22 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F4CFDB.60006@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:41:15 -0800 From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krzysztof Parzyszek , freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4C398.3010206@gmail.com> <50F4C604.9080000@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: <50F4C604.9080000@swissmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:41:26 -0000 On 01/14/2013 18:59, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > > There are no white crystals anywhere, no traces of liquid or any > suspicious sounds. The processors are enclosed in a massive radiator > into which copper pipes are connected from behind. > > I can't try make buildworld, because at this point the /usr filesystem > is not 100% usable, but when I started it without the fans, it hung > very quickly, except with more LEDs lit (LED#7 included). > > What is SMU recalibrate? > > Thanks, > -Krzysztof The good news is that your machine is aircooled, as far as I can tell...only 2.5ghz + was liquid cooled. Sorry for assuming the worst. Thermal calibration is an option in ASD. If you google for "Service Source g5 filetype:pdf" you will find your service manual, instructions were somewhere around page 92. Matt From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 03:45:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3EEF61 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chmeeedalf@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2191C2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fc26so4379961vbb.3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:45:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JLU7aXw9M8m05E2nfdX09WlAe+1Hj5lvzN52gCttnwY=; b=bCI4o5uo7G3TXqhylq2U2ysDIRJKTITLCAmczLsSktN4G0tNgypDjdNiaq7RQPnIxv jOc//2PXII/0x1be/pmkoZqwqe++453RX/XwvsT1og562flezRrEBz0Vi3qfsfYTjGF9 ThHy1yOJqhPk0xxytoWxDqaiYxXAFzG5R1vOJxV7bhASMXqQx6U+zlJjRqvWEerFFb4k nWlbwaoxua/KIoWbPnOAOyKcbRZBXt9l6CaaiLq/WvEFaManK6viB43zzioyKIMcL7x+ KaI2YHy+AhRdYaMvRGqeXBfET3unCfVrDtvi/VWt3nEyUXtk6bAzHo6uk5o/eg1qd6Y8 H0oA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.140.143 with SMTP id i15mr102960449vcu.15.1358221523436; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:45:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: chmeeedalf@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.213.74 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.213.74 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:45:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:45:23 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DTg_r55OE1C_XTaA4nvpxMdncIs Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 From: Justin Hibbits To: Krzysztof Parzyszek Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:45:24 -0000 Hi, I actually had the same problem with a nearly identical machine, but less memory. I think it may be a bad interrupt controller, and was planning to tackle interrupt routing for it, as I think MacOSX routes all non-IPI interrupts to core 0. I do have a 2.3GHz machine of the same family that runs FreeBSD perfectly, though, so my motivation is lacking right now. - Justin On Jan 14, 2013 7:21 PM, "Krzysztof Parzyszek" wrote: > Hi, > > I just got a Mac G5 (PowerMac11,2 Dual-core G5 2.0GHz) and I installed > FreeBSD 9.1 on it (using a 9.1-release iso image). The problem is that the > machine freezes at random(?) times, sometimes sooner, sometimes later. > Often, the hang can be accelerated by performing I/O operations (like > copying files). Sometimes it won't even start booting after the OF > messages---the screen goes blank and no text is shown. What "helps" it > boot is typing 'set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"', followed by "boot -v", > although I suspect that this is similar to the "more magic" switch, since > "sysctl -a" doesn't show any string containing "acpi". > > The box has 16GB of memory. It passed all ASD tests. > > What happens is that the LED#7 goes on, the machine freezes (without any > kernel message) and shortly after that the fans go at full power until I > turn the computer off. > > I have managed to compile subversion (and the machine survived the > compilations), but then it would repeatedly hang while checking out the > ports tree. Actually, it hung enough many times to finally corrupt the > filesystem causing kernel panic. > > Since it generally works for a while after booting, I can provide more > information, but I don't know where to look. This is meant to be a > "server-like" box, so there are some things that I would consider disabling > in the kernel, if that would get it to become stable. > > Any input as to what to do next will be appreciated. > > -Krzysztof > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@**freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 04:27:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCACC19 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7593F67D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.54]) by vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0F4OciT018026; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:24:38 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix-local-10025) with ESMTP id A4853A8434; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:26:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1626.29181.a1); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:26:31 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (FW4rAJGn1oilliXSOAFSMAFgGmYSJTglWRE9IkIlH2FzFy0iVAJgKQAZCggpJxFq) Message-ID: <50F4DA74.4050209@swissmail.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:26:28 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4C398.3010206@gmail.com> <50F4C604.9080000@swissmail.org> <50F4CFDB.60006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50F4CFDB.60006@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:27:49 -0000 On 1/14/2013 9:41 PM, matt wrote: > > The good news is that your machine is aircooled, as far as I can > tell...only 2.5ghz + was liquid cooled. > Sorry for assuming the worst. > > Thermal calibration is an option in ASD. > If you google for "Service Source g5 filetype:pdf" you will find your > service manual, instructions were somewhere around page 92. Oh, I see. In the meantime, I found some information about resetting the SMU (by pressing a button on the motherboard), and so far the system seems to be running ok, even with buildkernel going on. The a0/a1 sensors indicate ~50C and they were never more than 5C apart (I'm running a script that shows them from sysctl every 10 seconds). Maybe it was as simple as that... Keeping fingers crossed. Just a moment ago "svn checkout" of /usr/ports finished succesfully---an operation that would previously invariably lead to a hang, so I'm beginning to be optimistic. :) Thanks! -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 04:31:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9F6CEA for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9309F6AF for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (vm-smtp2.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.55]) by vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0F4SxcS018085; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:28:59 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS-local-10025) with ESMTP id D608D4A003; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:30:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1506.5356.a1); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:30:52 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (/dXa7Y69Z+YljHGucSA+iQw2VDZuFzsfXzkxCHIHACY6AD06AUY/IUZEThZNHj01) Message-ID: <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:30:49 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:31:12 -0000 On 1/14/2013 9:45 PM, Justin Hibbits wrote: > > I actually had the same problem with a nearly identical machine, but > less memory. I think it may be a bad interrupt controller, and was > planning to tackle interrupt routing for it, as I think MacOSX routes > all non-IPI interrupts to core 0. I do have a 2.3GHz machine of the same > family that runs FreeBSD perfectly, though, so my motivation is lacking > right now. Seems like pressing the "SMU reset" button helped, at least for now. The computer is actually working quite well compared to what it used to be. About the interrupt routing---was this going to be a software solution (e.g. kernel driver)? Is there a documentation about how all these things work on a PPC? -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 00:40:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E822EE1D for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA4392A for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (vm-smtp2.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.55]) by vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0G0cVUL007555; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:38:31 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS-local-10025) with ESMTP id 217614A004; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:40:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1506.2201.a1); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:40:25 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (8Lo9kuXGa5sik5f2QTNdf0g4H3y+TiclWRE9IkIlH2FzFzYc3mEmPREhQRct0hJp) Message-ID: <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:40:20 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:40:33 -0000 On 1/14/2013 10:30 PM, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > > Seems like pressing the "SMU reset" button helped, at least for now. The > computer is actually working quite well compared to what it used to be. That was yesterday... Today, I'm back to square one. :( -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 01:42:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1A13E8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:42:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sendtomatt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com (mail-pa0-f43.google.com [209.85.220.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A957CCFB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id fb10so465847pad.2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:42:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+1S02aer8uN+HZowYSs04saguYwmshJ9CYbs/X5AS5E=; b=bBqwrHX/udD9xPF26nBgdGi14t+AIYK27z+k7E3l5AiJhoHWI1izZK8PZtfWassiyw YwbNG+X9jE+kvIxsuvOYPwgvjIwjzduk6ok2ZjEnJLFpq2CsjYsgHEOxJQCud3mNdp3u 4fPeQSw4UX0y1kAT+w59MOoY7aZr7bYrY43b9XvydFjLaTtWG6vXzHD4aG6xDlyspQHi 4nUrGqKRegpFDRg3L6LJqEX/T1Ovdj1ILGvv6GdNHDocUKHjMmoBV/WIk2Mj6PiQ+J2p 03QTcx8rMhTZCV9mRhF4l/qTsQq3Q3XEUWDNup2dMWRNe2tZLJZP7xWVuG/muePrO3EM 8tVw== X-Received: by 10.68.135.133 with SMTP id ps5mr267469621pbb.132.1358300526083; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from flatline.local (70-36-223-239.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net. [70.36.223.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kl5sm11211259pbc.74.2013.01.15.17.42.03 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:42:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:41:56 -0800 From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krzysztof Parzyszek Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:42:06 -0000 On 01/15/2013 16:40, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > On 1/14/2013 10:30 PM, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: >> >> Seems like pressing the "SMU reset" button helped, at least for now. The >> computer is actually working quite well compared to what it used to be. > > That was yesterday... > > Today, I'm back to square one. :( > > -Krzysztof > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Does it freeze in OS X still? Replace PRAM battery, reset SMU, do a thermal recalibration via ASD. Every time the SMU crashes it starts eating battery...usually a few days before it's spent (although it may still read a reasonab le voltage). Replace all RAM, I think Nathan's on to something, I think DDR is the least reliable type of RAM. PC100 was usually durable, DDR2+ is usually durable, but I have 10 sticks of bad DDR at least. Otherwise, the Service Source would probably say replace CPU, if issue persists replace system board. There is also a PowerPC version of memtest available somewhere, the ASD test is not that good. Matt From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 01:51:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D555E3 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C787D6F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.54]) by vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0G1pkhG010864; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:51:46 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix-local-10025) with ESMTP id 155CEA889F; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:51:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1626.6353.a1); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:51:46 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (kX0IFoiK+FdXQsq0TRldyXM3RCYXE0ALlS1rYQLtDXbqyTM4AFsjMx0XBlYGUw0v) Message-ID: <50F607AD.3080201@swissmail.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:51:41 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:51:49 -0000 On 1/15/2013 7:41 PM, matt wrote: > > Does it freeze in OS X still? I don't have OS X. I bought it without any OS. > Replace PRAM battery, reset SMU, do a thermal recalibration via ASD. > Every time the SMU crashes it starts eating battery...usually a few days > before it's spent (although it may still read a reasonab le voltage). Ok, I'll try that. > Replace all RAM, I think Nathan's on to something, I think DDR is the > least reliable type of RAM. PC100 was usually durable, DDR2+ is usually > durable, but I have 10 sticks of bad DDR at least. Ouch. I paid more for the RAM than I paid for the rest of the computer. Ok, I'll try with some of the sticks removed and see if the problem still happens. -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 01:52:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B781D808 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@kryptos-security.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786A2D84 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n11so838490vch.30 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:52:24 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=7YW8syTZkBN8Ei2lKwgqh/gCxGn7LisS7bu4Kq9hi6M=; b=jDXEFT5m79vuIQnS9QOzwWYUxHLnqnEKSJ1PijUIfUxfN1GV89BT26vfdSY7IiEs14 MlF/0iqtpAdj9xccpqRghrA9WGvrUcJD9MQ3/wayMYZIsUUxU8I02Q6GxY6t+ykML6Tp Ohu3UlweQdNLnZtCOd/q1k/6RAVmLJlSYuAOC0w7KEv2SrHoEQU7hM4WrIgL/qP5f48e oGxgj8P5uPs9wCHWPxVQV+Ve2db12zGLBhMeeCi85T8CpEUnncDTc+Qq+gPrOxcKDAXc 6FVa14g1KzipikvYC2Vs1P04wB2gypfg+dFdUqqdUNXRaD1srLqFVH63KRJQvwJq3wj+ ekBQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.92.131 with SMTP id cm3mr94037176vdb.110.1358301144593; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.22.105 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:52:24 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [98.231.6.79] In-Reply-To: <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:52:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 From: Michael Copeland To: matt X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk9mQk8ctXsFdcofummIWKbUjgQlrjapNpFJDcTGNmhFJMcdxbINEc9rQA2ogJRDWOlAAgD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:52:30 -0000 Those of you that saw my posts from a few months ago regarding the same machine as the one in question, I had the same issues he is having. The fans would go full blast, the system would hang without any form of console message. It all stopped when I ran the pmu/smu/fan script that some people in this mailing list have used. So I'm thinking it is definitely an issue with the smu driver or the smu itself on this machine. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 02:19:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA557B2C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sendtomatt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-f45.google.com (mail-da0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91611E5D for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f45.google.com with SMTP id w4so327714dam.32 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:19:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9jdGo2nQNni8I4r8xgqTDCSMPvFd5ZBbUPWuS0UVU5Y=; b=rGo1mLLF8Kh9SqGk3KQYIN9SrLZUp2pfEMIzbbZfdOkmQ4l04iPKGYSNKDV5tHPekm zclD30wGcdIcbWVgK8ilHz3Dw6i38J7x1Yom7oW/f3rwcVtECPlytSjCN351iy59H0GP sljBQeovhLMWG4E+xHUDHi/T3FJU//QTsa4YKN3tVOA4TMHQ8h4TRS06lpUVyu5sWJzl VSdsdpgRrxSk3ozbb1n3eI+Kz3PvcF+s9o6h2n3pze2rOp9cgkxNX/DSi4VnYtkGQBqp q0NZteVue8L3cBeQJ/K7LzpwRfuEPaRicV9+XZQHeWCrb9WquDPsXiaNa/MiHIPLbUUo kjAA== X-Received: by 10.68.222.232 with SMTP id qp8mr91147097pbc.99.1358302775510; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from flatline.local (70-36-223-239.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net. [70.36.223.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x2sm11945553paw.8.2013.01.15.18.19.33 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:19:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F60E2D.4060407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:19:25 -0800 From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Copeland Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:19:42 -0000 On 01/15/2013 17:52, Michael Copeland wrote: > Those of you that saw my posts from a few months ago regarding the > same machine as the one in question, I had the same issues he is > having. The fans would go full blast, the system would hang without > any form of console message. It all stopped when I ran the pmu/smu/fan > script that some people in this mailing list have used. So I'm > thinking it is definitely an issue with the smu driver or the smu > itself on this machine. That also makes sense, but I assumed Nathan's comment meant that it's probably not always a problem on this model. I know the only air-cooled G5 I ever repaired under warranty came in with these exact symptoms under OS X. That is just a single sample, of course. In my mind there are 4 major systems that can produce these symptoms in an OS agnostic manner: 1. Power supply (Apple used AcBel...they had major issues with the G4s for example) 2. CPU (IBM was reducing die reliability and increasing clock speed, on an expensive separate production run...) 3. RAM 4. SMU...it can fail to operate fans properly (I can't remember if it also controls voltages) which produce symptoms in any of the above The way to rule out the above is to see the machine working fine under Tiger (10.4). 10.5 had some of its own issues, it's not the gold standard of PPC reliability usually. If the problem can only be reproduced on FreeBSD, it's very likely smu related (or at least fixable there by increasing cooling). You have to understand Apple was reeling after the "Windtunnel" G4 noise problems...they wanted to have a powerful but quiet machine, so fan control became much more complex. The SMU is at the heart of that matter, and I'm sure most of the machine's thermal design assumes it is working properly and in full control of the fans. Matt From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 02:29:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF160210 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@kryptos-security.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f49.google.com (mail-vb0-f49.google.com [209.85.212.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C59F01 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:29:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id s24so842968vbi.8 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:29:49 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Ri6lUyZTR0CTl+rwbyUKb0gIWUSRfRSvx9yjGnzLCF4=; b=hXg4hiVY5GydYaTqE1EJ4n+GbnytA2spqYFZN4fsTNV4OA83SKEzHIl4+TXAe8gD7R diogwL1bfmlZQfjgfGNxVzWa7kG0f1snaVuvXiSNnjcQhvxkLcT99lhntqqU2yRxwTM2 hB9cp3iIY0fm++1CuNvTJiPKa2pTj9/tm2XqD8p0oieXTJ8ztACR6txECPfQpewMiTyp 4VGPToXB8MoE9Diknw8ZBaQ4FlCRUBZ79x48SbGnFhtfaUkOwg40OZBh2k+uVYnTSCrZ tuw3L9/pd5lIQRRIQe/PFD4cO0DOa81q965CL738UCk3CN7ACNTQ+oaLY0pA8VjRUhjK lp1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.228.1 with SMTP id jc1mr106343012vcb.74.1358303389725; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.22.105 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:29:49 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [98.231.6.79] In-Reply-To: <50F60E2D.4060407@gmail.com> References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> <50F60E2D.4060407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:29:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 From: Michael Copeland To: matt X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmoJXle6rkPJEVU1sTAsffupTCorwLsJ3fgdIXIuJSdHyS4jYnaD9FKaHJ86D0wC202wvVD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:29:55 -0000 Well, this machine works just fine under all supported versions of OS X and Linux. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 02:41:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B10342; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F2DF74; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (vm-smtp2.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.55]) by vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0G2fljm011494; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:41:47 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS-local-10025) with ESMTP id 398684A002; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:41:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1506.12067.a1); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:41:47 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (kPXm/J4JD2ToIPwnyFINH3YdHR4j09V/TggmOEU+FjNyXjNlOXR1PzUyBhdNNxdz) Message-ID: <50F61368.60401@swissmail.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:41:44 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4CEF2.6040906@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <50F4CEF2.6040906@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:41:54 -0000 Hi Nathan, I found this little program on your website: http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/powermac112-fancontrol.c Has this been integrated into the SMU driver? Is this something that I should be running on my machine? -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 02:45:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4A34B1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@kryptos-security.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D48FFAE for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id l22so868961vbn.28 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:45:51 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=z3QvKLI7OPvm+qwbchCGXJc3HqYyz3p12hg/bcqrTlw=; b=T2Dc04a+KWi37/NJ4VELHC2OwDSAxfle4myEvv3iLXfgBewzjoBJ1rHV05yACtt5FB vGz90OlLCU8x+cDBVf681WBgN+mAEbFlE0MXvhS7nw3kIzqnHVCYFiyWocK0Rix7NTTy C3KEDN7zP/AoVA9QvO5psgq6ukfTIG/eQBGSU5V92qdJ37KNdmhQGbJvMar9z2ccJ581 3CCNsLyikU/vudh4WnPpuNHyxHwMFUF0bU4dgel04sVkHgtgJOy286sDG7uhZ4G3o255 gAL7+5IyXIb+wKrR65e+7NJV/OhgWogn2VHxkH3SrkcG8KECA+nXqVHb/tmyZ06ZS27q I3mg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.149.69 with SMTP id s5mr108137839vcv.23.1358304351315; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.22.105 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:45:51 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [98.231.6.79] In-Reply-To: <50F61368.60401@swissmail.org> References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4CEF2.6040906@freebsd.org> <50F61368.60401@swissmail.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:45:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 From: Michael Copeland To: Krzysztof Parzyszek X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmLTpeOZXY8G0Qwm00JvQUQGknvGtNgNeRm4JTB3Mu+MbMuolOgXckGqV1liqsbDCNIhsmD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:45:52 -0000 I'm using a modified version of this. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > Hi Nathan, > I found this little program on your website: > http://people.freebsd.org/~**nwhitehorn/powermac112-**fancontrol.c > > Has this been integrated into the SMU driver? Is this something that I > should be running on my machine? > > -Krzysztof > > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@**freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 02:52:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F83720 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from argol.doit.wisc.edu (argol.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915F2FF9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:52:12 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (rrcs-24-39-139-99.nyc.biz.rr.com [24.39.139.99]) by smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGP00JU26MSGL00@smtpauth3.wiscmail.wisc.edu> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:52:06 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-3, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2013.1.16.23624, SenderIP=24.39.139.99 X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=24.39.139.99 X-Wisc-Sender: whitehorn@wisc.edu Message-id: <50F615D3.1020702@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:52:03 -0800 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: Krzysztof Parzyszek Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4CEF2.6040906@freebsd.org> <50F61368.60401@swissmail.org> In-reply-to: <50F61368.60401@swissmail.org> Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:52:12 -0000 On 01/15/13 18:41, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > Hi Nathan, > I found this little program on your website: > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/powermac112-fancontrol.c > > Has this been integrated into the SMU driver? Is this something that I > should be running on my machine? > > -Krzysztof > This is something that is now part of the SMU driver; it's left over from the very early days of FreeBSD on G5s. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 08:06:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BF4578 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0FD187 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so1091321obc.29 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:05:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lmtsH717aYdMw+yrykM3yQHm+xWKzl0AxZy88en5vxQ=; b=sMQWXxMdpLMr4MTfZK0/clT2uPNU3vsmXW9xr7O9oCK1HEhIEGdk7BRkZpnGWcpntA NZO1rKx3tWqP2uVetJtSo2CTGetjKD7tZWkABttv4f7LNaj5iAEUZp67gLp2ZlRjPVoC XgOtFDrl6NtZk/cjQiQDtBSCEGCQE9c2Ko5hZrebrFihDGpiYps0wFNiKcsylnUDWllk D3CEsvP8mqTrJNFQU5WTVr/fctR3LGAuBbZs/BJIbSeAa7ceRladmDUV6wYgwN40nfrP jw7xGcdiiLMFKj4trncpLYZTA4Vwef/58/VZf7bQhdXe7NWeryIkg53XTB2pcZk/9nNE n//w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.32.69 with SMTP id g5mr191957oei.21.1358323555699; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.160.99 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:05:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:05:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:06:01 -0000 I'm pushing this question a second time. The last usb-key that I tried using to dd the image was effectively destroyed. The DVD-ROM drive is basically shot on the Powerbook Titanium. I'd like to know if anyone has used the memstick image to install FreeBSD to a PowerpC32 machine and what was done to the usb device with the dd command. The process will also need to be started in qemu with the -nographic option. Using gpart did not allow me to create more than four or five partitions: <- Has this been fixed &/or what is the work around? The 9.1-RELEASE images in the snapshot directories are crashing in qemu with kernel entry at 0x1000e0. This also occurs on the real machine. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Super Bisquit wrote: > Are there any special steps in using the usb-image for installing? I > am aware that Open Firmware does booting from CD9660 and HFS file > systems. > > Can a serial install be done or even monitored using rl0 to gem0 with > a standard ethernet cable? 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[70.36.223.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oi2sm11920843pbb.62.2013.01.16.01.01.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:01:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:01:24 -0800 From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Super Bisquit Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:01:41 -0000 On 01/16/2013 00:05, Super Bisquit wrote: > I'd like to know if anyone has used the memstick image to > install FreeBSD to a PowerpC32 machine and what was done to the usb > device with the dd command. > Yes, G4 MDD FW400. Also boots OS9, NetBSD, OpenBSD this way. OS X might work, didn't care to try. pv -ptre memstick.img | dd of=/dev/da0 obs=2M pv just for the progress bar because I hate dd's reticence. 2M because it was fastest for that particular usb stick. Otherwise nothing fancy. Booting with option sometimes worked. Sometimes claim failed or it would spit out other nonsense (I thought adler was a german bird...) Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\\:tbxi caused screen corruption for a moment and sometimes worked Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\ppc\boot1.elf worked every time Where blah is usb@X[,Y] Since you can redirect OF to telnet, at least this stage can be easier if you can blind type those commands and have a telnet client available on another machine. Naturally installing is quite slow over usb 1.1, with a random NEC based USB2.0 card I was also able to install much faster. No idea about serial console, I only have the weird internal modem connector and I haven't figured out how to get a TTL console on it yet. No pinout appears available, although the traces seem to indicate some likely pins... Do you have something like a G4port on the Titanium? I assume G4 modem header 5v/3.3v TTL maybe? Matt From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 09:26:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81005FA9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D527AC for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 16so1115715obc.41 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:26:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Zuogfamko59FY9u4Qr+vjOaXV8B+xP+LZ6GbBzfNq50=; b=qwq1MS39mx/jY3umi/Ca+JKSo435pXpqdiTxGFSmeiaV2TMYIwSGeOuESXEOMftfLZ RBhfjuPwK6OszTk5s/0n1bBdy4sALSAptMoBAi9r88gvXI/rGHY23cnXrxgZCft0zP8V 3RSKWEMgb6EdItaEZv16UcnqyE2xiS2dJ+lW/KQ43X+Czj+OsnOGyblDlmNokvnCANXR PGm80nCD3TXojb7AMj8dd6UrCn2MZ+5di+fDkmAurUOR9QP4GHjXK2NULsTf10z9tJP+ FB3vyBGZy3o/SZJUtsSHWDDxuIauw1grI3ESTlx1/CSdiE6SPwIzdvTpU0LVHllxkipp QjJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.13.73 with SMTP id f9mr250690oec.131.1358328378457; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.160.99 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:26:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> References: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:26:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing From: Super Bisquit To: matt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:26:19 -0000 On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, matt wrote: > On 01/16/2013 00:05, Super Bisquit wrote: >> I'd like to know if anyone has used the memstick image to >> install FreeBSD to a PowerpC32 machine and what was done to the usb >> device with the dd command. >> > Yes, G4 MDD FW400. Also boots OS9, NetBSD, OpenBSD this way. OS X might > work, didn't care to try. > > pv -ptre memstick.img | dd of=/dev/da0 obs=2M > > pv just for the progress bar because I hate dd's reticence. 2M because > it was fastest for that particular usb stick. Otherwise nothing fancy. I'll use the reference that you have here to run the dd command. Still, did you need to format it to hfs or not? > > Booting with option sometimes worked. Sometimes claim failed or it would > spit out other nonsense (I thought adler was a german bird...) > Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\\:tbxi caused screen corruption > for a moment and sometimes worked > Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\ppc\boot1.elf worked every time > Where blah is usb@X[,Y] > > Since you can redirect OF to telnet, at least this stage can be easier > if you can blind type those commands and have a telnet client available > on another machine. Will I need to add the dhcp server to the second machine in order to run the telnet interface? > > Naturally installing is quite slow over usb 1.1, with a random NEC based > USB2.0 card I was also able to install much faster. > I know that debian has a ttyUSBX available but that doesn't seem to be the issue with FreeBSD. > No idea about serial console, I only have the weird internal modem > connector and I haven't figured out how to get a TTL console on it yet. > No pinout appears available, although the traces seem to indicate some > likely pins... > > Do you have something like a G4port on the Titanium? I assume G4 modem > header 5v/3.3v TTL maybe? I'm not sure. I'll see what the OF commands say when I run them at the forth prompt. > > Matt > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 11:29:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A0FC89 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adutkowski@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BC4EF2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id o6so1239808oag.25 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:29:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KN+g3j5xFtZqOHAV/keENcxpVuIp9+s7hZK0npZd+TU=; b=pOlftZh2oRfQLoSV3ecfx9KlxFNnH+yRBRCSjrgeM/W0kXVmyETfs8Mmvvd6ffY3Nk 5YobyUB7bLqdyC//at1STz/Kn4aa/KPiCHwuKTwG3Dr5RlKY0m5IYwBzyDKkFTXd8eE6 QdnwxH2Pk7SK4H3tmlpdF9ditaOFfkufbqweff5CDmXPWiERyhJsqiqxJMsi1gMAvcY8 WfMvs8CJTz5o7gba24/0i1vN37IFCYTqfDdEcXktenrAabGM6IkphpWRFeo8p1iMdvdE HDkUScMonMB7rTrayYJvLYjjaqTwzjldBLaq8ZLN7j+OAFgs8ziQAVy719wjd71kjttA yiFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.172.113 with SMTP id bb17mr524839oec.110.1358335782494; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:29:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: adutkowski@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.135.103 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:29:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:29:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NjVhTs-En_HxHiD791Hhi72aCUw Message-ID: Subject: booke pmap.c bugfix From: Aleksander Dutkowski To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:29:43 -0000 hello! Every occurence of variable bp_ntlbls is in #ifdef SMP macro. The only pmap_bootstrap_ap function call is also in #ifdef SMP macro. So the definition and declaration of function pmap_bootstrap_ap should also be in this macro, otherwise, complation crashes without option SMP diff --git a/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c b/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c index f6e5f9c..f30e99d 100644 --- a/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c +++ b/sys/powerpc/booke/pmap.c @@ -264,7 +264,9 @@ static vm_offset_t ptbl_buf_pool_vabase; /* Pointer to ptbl_buf structures. */ static struct ptbl_buf *ptbl_bufs; +#ifdef SMP void pmap_bootstrap_ap(volatile uint32_t *); +#endif /* * Kernel MMU interface @@ -1271,7 +1273,7 @@ mmu_booke_bootstrap(mmu_t mmu, vm_offset_t start, vm_offset_t kernelend) debugf("mmu_booke_bootstrap: exit\n"); } - +#ifdef SMP void pmap_bootstrap_ap(volatile uint32_t *trcp __unused) { @@ -1292,6 +1294,7 @@ pmap_bootstrap_ap(volatile uint32_t *trcp __unused) set_mas4_defaults(); } +#endif /* * Get the physical page address for the given pmap/virtual address. -- regards aleek From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 17:41:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EF3B03 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sendtomatt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f51.google.com (mail-pb0-f51.google.com [209.85.160.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F6BD86 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ro12so846144pbb.24 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:41:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=mDXAnSQENrHwXY8UaEPHnDLpvdU5qNwQwEra5Q1LQiM=; b=n702HC8SaSoKg9+E0eQ3k5+su/phcTiG/hgtsosii3oGK2XUmFe+11y26G2JC/LaUT eKmo4BCPJeS35OcW2hGJhcpxgLCmwMcMqkMkgsjk3aBs07A59j2POvqc98/QahKaxF9V l4JBJNsnB4VoinvDbkY05XWiN+8b177LDC9KK4S6RLNmb96BCJrKljQ8DOcEpZWMvp+g NxUVPUOn053s8dODXWEFVpRf3tIUwn8ZkrSS7iN8a9k+BGdDuojVc5dZvFWUPBWUfPAk 3oz02U9JH5OQQ5RvHQtqAe0n+OSGKjJCALpn9OQR6I0UXMVziZ1O6YLNc+Q5jmuIcQ1m pNOQ== X-Received: by 10.66.79.74 with SMTP id h10mr5697503pax.25.1358358093404; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from flatline.local (70-36-223-239.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net. [70.36.223.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5sm13346159paz.32.2013.01.16.09.41.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:41:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:41:22 -0800 From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Super Bisquit Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing References: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:41:39 -0000 On 01/16/2013 01:26, Super Bisquit wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, matt wrote: >> On 01/16/2013 00:05, Super Bisquit wrote: >>> I'd like to know if anyone has used the memstick image to >>> install FreeBSD to a PowerpC32 machine and what was done to the usb >>> device with the dd command. >>> >> Yes, G4 MDD FW400. Also boots OS9, NetBSD, OpenBSD this way. OS X might >> work, didn't care to try. >> >> pv -ptre memstick.img | dd of=/dev/da0 obs=2M >> >> pv just for the progress bar because I hate dd's reticence. 2M because >> it was fastest for that particular usb stick. Otherwise nothing fancy. > I'll use the reference that you have here to run the dd command. > Still, did you need to format it to hfs or not? >> Booting with option sometimes worked. Sometimes claim failed or it would >> spit out other nonsense (I thought adler was a german bird...) >> Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\\:tbxi caused screen corruption >> for a moment and sometimes worked >> Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\ppc\boot1.elf worked every time >> Where blah is usb@X[,Y] >> >> Since you can redirect OF to telnet, at least this stage can be easier >> if you can blind type those commands and have a telnet client available >> on another machine. > Will I need to add the dhcp server to the second machine in order to > run the telnet interface? >> Naturally installing is quite slow over usb 1.1, with a random NEC based >> USB2.0 card I was also able to install much faster. >> > I know that debian has a ttyUSBX available but that doesn't seem to be > the issue with FreeBSD. >> No idea about serial console, I only have the weird internal modem >> connector and I haven't figured out how to get a TTL console on it yet. >> No pinout appears available, although the traces seem to indicate some >> likely pins... >> >> Do you have something like a G4port on the Titanium? I assume G4 modem >> header 5v/3.3v TTL maybe? > I'm not sure. I'll see what the OF commands say when I run them at the > forth prompt. >> Matt >> >> I may have gotten slightly confused between the couple messages. I thought a hardware serial port was involved. As far as OpenFirmware via telnet: http://www.fenestrated.net/~macman/mirrors/Apple%20Technotes%20(As%20of%202002)/tn/tn2004.html No DHCP server is necessary, but you'll have to type the commands mentioned in the technote blind. Once you're in, you can possibly set the boot-command to the correct telnet command or put it in an nvramrc. Did we ever have an OF-only syscons for FreeBSD (probably early on)? I wonder if it would also go over telnet... Personally I would do a DESTDIR= install over firewire in target disk mode preferably in this situation, then chroot to it on the host and configure it to get sshd running... Once setup just reboot the titanium and ssh in. This should be possible from any FreeBSD system with firewire since we can cross-build world and kernel. As far as USB: I didn't format anything. I tested 9.1-RC3, I can test release tomorrow. I just dd the image onto the stick, I may have zeroed the first couple megabytes first to "clean" off any junk. My G4 will not always try to boot from USB, it has to be directed to do so via the Option menu. It might try if there was no other bootable disk, can't remember. USB is *not* hotplug for Openfirmware, so put the stick in before you turn on the machine. I did have a variety of errors trying to boot the stick directly at times, especially with different releases and even other BSDs. The most reliable way to boot it was to type the full path to the boot1.elf in OF. If it fails you have to reboot to get OF clean again. Matt From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 00:29:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBC3CC6; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB92AA1; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id eh20so2034167obb.9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:29:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Pp4914b872bZYM/UdU4HGOfk7zUlJVQ7A68rM0QROyw=; b=IbcSqASs/3DptF/t/lhnO5FskRTdR8S8K8kPTcXtS3Cqpr0vmX9WSwiejJC5DZrZMh oUNq5EJXJv1T83d6BpRbprJwcCnSQyhj6aW6rCj8Hds2EndFxX34FhN6zUAaG/HA6hHS qmbkFr1xEDJHrPcdwCvbeYVQ4kW+bPPpZwjayROj088UXVJlzZtg2otLQJxJG0sCZN7I xejh4xYh2ow2SC8+fjLoruM0+4UGzsEhpHBoaPs4iWkuhPl3QGHDecs7VD3BUP7Yl1O/ 03Y9nAKXYrZsQd3udT0otbnGM6xNScg9y0jGxTkpDz4x30F8M5GOeBYfYMKW7zMhwHCj /Vcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.38.69 with SMTP id e5mr2483972obk.79.1358382585342; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.160.99 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:29:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> References: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:29:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing From: Super Bisquit To: matt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:29:51 -0000 The output-device needs to be reset to screen. I tested 9.0-RELEASE both iso and memstick and they don't fully boot. Nathan, have you tested the images in qemu recently? They seem to be crapping out some. I also need someone with a powerboo or an ibook to tell me what the output-device is: is it output-device screen or output-device-1 screen? I wanted to use 9.0 being that I already have a small repository built for that release. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, matt wrote: > On 01/16/2013 01:26, Super Bisquit wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, matt wrote: > > On 01/16/2013 00:05, Super Bisquit wrote: > > I'd like to know if anyone has used the memstick image to > install FreeBSD to a PowerpC32 machine and what was done to the usb > device with the dd command. > > Yes, G4 MDD FW400. Also boots OS9, NetBSD, OpenBSD this way. OS X might > work, didn't care to try. > > pv -ptre memstick.img | dd of=/dev/da0 obs=2M > > pv just for the progress bar because I hate dd's reticence. 2M because > it was fastest for that particular usb stick. Otherwise nothing fancy. > > I'll use the reference that you have here to run the dd command. > Still, did you need to format it to hfs or not? > > Booting with option sometimes worked. Sometimes claim failed or it would > spit out other nonsense (I thought adler was a german bird...) > Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\\:tbxi caused screen corruption > for a moment and sometimes worked > Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\ppc\boot1.elf worked every time > Where blah is usb@X[,Y] > > Since you can redirect OF to telnet, at least this stage can be easier > if you can blind type those commands and have a telnet client available > on another machine. > > Will I need to add the dhcp server to the second machine in order to > run the telnet interface? > > Naturally installing is quite slow over usb 1.1, with a random NEC based > USB2.0 card I was also able to install much faster. > > I know that debian has a ttyUSBX available but that doesn't seem to be > the issue with FreeBSD. > > No idea about serial console, I only have the weird internal modem > connector and I haven't figured out how to get a TTL console on it yet. > No pinout appears available, although the traces seem to indicate some > likely pins... > > Do you have something like a G4port on the Titanium? I assume G4 modem > header 5v/3.3v TTL maybe? > > I'm not sure. I'll see what the OF commands say when I run them at the > forth prompt. > > Matt > > > I may have gotten slightly confused between the couple messages. I thought a > hardware serial port was involved. > > As far as OpenFirmware via telnet: > http://www.fenestrated.net/~macman/mirrors/Apple%20Technotes%20(As%20of%202002)/tn/tn2004.html > > No DHCP server is necessary, but you'll have to type the commands mentioned > in the technote blind. > Once you're in, you can possibly set the boot-command to the correct telnet > command or put it in an nvramrc. > > Did we ever have an OF-only syscons for FreeBSD (probably early on)? I > wonder if it would also go over telnet... > > Personally I would do a DESTDIR= install over firewire in target disk mode > preferably in this situation, then chroot to it on the host and configure it > to get sshd running... > Once setup just reboot the titanium and ssh in. > This should be possible from any FreeBSD system with firewire since we can > cross-build world and kernel. > > As far as USB: > > I didn't format anything. I tested 9.1-RC3, I can test release tomorrow. I > just dd the image onto the stick, I may have zeroed the first couple > megabytes first to "clean" off any junk. > > My G4 will not always try to boot from USB, it has to be directed to do so > via the Option menu. It might try if there was no other bootable disk, can't > remember. > USB is *not* hotplug for Openfirmware, so put the stick in before you turn > on the machine. > > I did have a variety of errors trying to boot the stick directly at times, > especially with different releases and even other BSDs. The most reliable > way to boot it was to type the full path to the boot1.elf in OF. If it fails > you have to reboot to get OF clean again. > > Matt > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 00:52:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD6C31F; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20836BE5; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id ta14so2046330obb.33 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:52:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kWv3/eX0vKPzRWUY37PFfQhKrKfAsl/qyWMa9XU7fUg=; b=YDYI5QXIfkq0La9qBBJ3luldoLr6QK15p9bBFXZ7BUHKJQMwoSuteX+EqkemAqEb5c II3rGeouCuc71XpRpT12YhG+y1I0yFqTXEQMzBud0S+dMt/86ndOJB6LpeMp230uQBx0 5qmyCr+7LEJGQG0OlklkTLRXo5wnD+QgCy0/mU2/CDF4tNJY00GMKod2/pwDtgk0GEEf fUg5kAPQleVDruCE+04PYPLU+/JfcEZ6Mwui6APyAXMSTZXZp9uTLRzjfwvUzmMJ23+M kq7QonpZ4H+3vGWSi/1NbBn4r3a75Y+Y3gLbcYpJGbMJV7P2Kdh6IQgzMvExcuM6qbr6 V3wQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.88.38 with SMTP id bd6mr2567527obb.19.1358383937468; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.160.99 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:52:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:52:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing From: Super Bisquit To: matt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:52:18 -0000 Everything is done at home and then I get a few miles walk to connect to the internet. Ok: Do I need to reset with ctrl+opt+p+r? Thanks for the help and patience. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Super Bisquit wrote: > The output-device needs to be reset to screen. > I tested 9.0-RELEASE both iso and memstick and they don't fully boot. > Nathan, have you tested the images in qemu recently? They seem to be > crapping out some. > > I also need someone with a powerboo or an ibook to tell me what the > output-device is: is it output-device screen or output-device-1 > screen? > > I wanted to use 9.0 being that I already have a small repository built > for that release. > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, matt wrote: >> On 01/16/2013 01:26, Super Bisquit wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:01 AM, matt wrote: >> >> On 01/16/2013 00:05, Super Bisquit wrote: >> >> I'd like to know if anyone has used the memstick image to >> install FreeBSD to a PowerpC32 machine and what was done to the usb >> device with the dd command. >> >> Yes, G4 MDD FW400. Also boots OS9, NetBSD, OpenBSD this way. OS X might >> work, didn't care to try. >> >> pv -ptre memstick.img | dd of=/dev/da0 obs=2M >> >> pv just for the progress bar because I hate dd's reticence. 2M because >> it was fastest for that particular usb stick. Otherwise nothing fancy. >> >> I'll use the reference that you have here to run the dd command. >> Still, did you need to format it to hfs or not? >> >> Booting with option sometimes worked. Sometimes claim failed or it would >> spit out other nonsense (I thought adler was a german bird...) >> Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\\:tbxi caused screen corruption >> for a moment and sometimes worked >> Booting with /pci@f2000000/blah/disk@1:,\ppc\boot1.elf worked every time >> Where blah is usb@X[,Y] >> >> Since you can redirect OF to telnet, at least this stage can be easier >> if you can blind type those commands and have a telnet client available >> on another machine. >> >> Will I need to add the dhcp server to the second machine in order to >> run the telnet interface? >> >> Naturally installing is quite slow over usb 1.1, with a random NEC based >> USB2.0 card I was also able to install much faster. >> >> I know that debian has a ttyUSBX available but that doesn't seem to be >> the issue with FreeBSD. >> >> No idea about serial console, I only have the weird internal modem >> connector and I haven't figured out how to get a TTL console on it yet. >> No pinout appears available, although the traces seem to indicate some >> likely pins... >> >> Do you have something like a G4port on the Titanium? I assume G4 modem >> header 5v/3.3v TTL maybe? >> >> I'm not sure. I'll see what the OF commands say when I run them at the >> forth prompt. >> >> Matt >> >> >> I may have gotten slightly confused between the couple messages. I thought a >> hardware serial port was involved. >> >> As far as OpenFirmware via telnet: >> http://www.fenestrated.net/~macman/mirrors/Apple%20Technotes%20(As%20of%202002)/tn/tn2004.html >> >> No DHCP server is necessary, but you'll have to type the commands mentioned >> in the technote blind. >> Once you're in, you can possibly set the boot-command to the correct telnet >> command or put it in an nvramrc. >> >> Did we ever have an OF-only syscons for FreeBSD (probably early on)? I >> wonder if it would also go over telnet... >> >> Personally I would do a DESTDIR= install over firewire in target disk mode >> preferably in this situation, then chroot to it on the host and configure it >> to get sshd running... >> Once setup just reboot the titanium and ssh in. >> This should be possible from any FreeBSD system with firewire since we can >> cross-build world and kernel. >> >> As far as USB: >> >> I didn't format anything. I tested 9.1-RC3, I can test release tomorrow. I >> just dd the image onto the stick, I may have zeroed the first couple >> megabytes first to "clean" off any junk. >> >> My G4 will not always try to boot from USB, it has to be directed to do so >> via the Option menu. It might try if there was no other bootable disk, can't >> remember. >> USB is *not* hotplug for Openfirmware, so put the stick in before you turn >> on the machine. >> >> I did have a variety of errors trying to boot the stick directly at times, >> especially with different releases and even other BSDs. The most reliable >> way to boot it was to type the full path to the boot1.elf in OF. If it fails >> you have to reboot to get OF clean again. >> >> Matt >> >> From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 02:31:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C926A82; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sendtomatt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f48.google.com (mail-pb0-f48.google.com [209.85.160.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB75017F; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id rq13so1088242pbb.35 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:31:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5RCHSwUT44pHww0q+96XvYoOl5M/+/78K1c0QQiJjUc=; b=Lo92nBx8x0PzJUguh9770c9sotcese2SeZ7IsL57cLLKdfbpTSvgpx9zrSZe1XaDMx RDgYgONgq2M+SlgYrcWzJaWKJ+q/7PYC2W1MUTX5KNmKRVr7v6RbGVP0MacZClCJ7lM4 9X+SoU4Bw7wjqafBuLv4aYDpoOfxQ8I1PU4LBtPeet+ngZanh38PFs7URFAJs5fftBlA SnONpnL+Q4cw3Er90LMlcNcX04E7ejWbsmC91+4CMxFoCL7C5a3aLwERDAFcJJ2s8R5R e7ch3WoDIs7LPFyR119a3btTXV5MHAz0LX2c5XiWUvwMZG4nSRFBahiihd2EJ+HUgCm+ jF0w== X-Received: by 10.68.223.131 with SMTP id qu3mr8716452pbc.89.1358389879378; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from bakeneko.local (108-213-216-134.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.213.216.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ti9sm94164pbc.16.2013.01.16.18.31.17 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:31:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F76245.1000108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:30:29 -0800 From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.11) Gecko/20121203 Thunderbird/10.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Super Bisquit Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing References: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:31:20 -0000 On 01/16/13 16:52, Super Bisquit wrote: > Everything is done at home and then I get a few miles walk to connect > to the internet. > Ok: Do I need to reset with ctrl+opt+p+r? > > Thanks for the help and patience. > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Super Bisquit wrote: >> Cmd-Opt P R will reset all of OF to as clean as it can get, so it can't hurt. Rebooting is usually all that is necessary usually if loader (or any other OF program) aborts but leaves OF in a messed up state. Supposedly the "right" incorrect value for load-base can permanently fry OF, that may be model specific though or a rumor. I think some powerbooks had a bug where recent OF changes were not persistent until reset-all (which actually just reboots...) was issued, unfortunately I can't remember where I heard that or which models. It may have been an iBook thing. Also, I'm not sure how bad your screen is, but if you reseat the LVDS cable and the screen is still black it may be the inverter. If it's just the inverter, you're still in luck, look at the screen with a bright flashlight. You may be able to make out the text. I did see a few panels outright fail on these, but a lot more times the inverter or backlight would fail. Matt From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 02:37:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CA7B61 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from alto.onthenet.com.au (alto.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6876F1BC for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by alto.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63A9511C67; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:37:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from vpn2ntap-492130.vpn.netapp.com (pos-ext.netapp.com [198.95.226.40]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id BJJ46389 (AUTH peterg@ptree32.com.au); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:37:09 +1000 Message-ID: <50F763D0.3080209@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:37:04 -0700 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing References: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:37:12 -0000 Hi Matt, > Did we ever have an OF-only syscons for FreeBSD (probably early on)? I > wonder if it would also go over telnet... Early development was done with the OF console, but due to issues (maybe now fixed?) with the context switch to OF from FreeBSD, I abandoned it and went for a syscons framebuffer console made to look a lot like a PC. The OF console does still work if you boot under the gdb psim emulator. Not sure if telnet would work - FreeBSD is going to collide with access to the gem ethernet and also the decrementer interrupt. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 14:51:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEF6BC0 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC9C366 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (vm-smtp2.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.55]) by vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0HEpaZa014809; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:51:36 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS-local-10025) with ESMTP id 8CB144A002; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:51:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1506.15575.a1); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:51:36 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (vd5w00Ya1wG3nbwL48e8YUI7FX9yKBcAYRdrP0Y83vI6AD06AUY/IUZEThFQPCps) Message-ID: <50F80FF1.8020603@swissmail.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:51:29 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> <50F607AD.3080201@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: <50F607AD.3080201@swissmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:51:43 -0000 On 1/15/2013 7:51 PM, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > On 1/15/2013 7:41 PM, matt wrote: >> >> Replace PRAM battery, reset SMU, do a thermal recalibration via ASD. >> Every time the SMU crashes it starts eating battery...usually a few days >> before it's spent (although it may still read a reasonab le voltage). > > Ok, I'll try that. Update. I replaced the PRAM battery and I got the same symptoms. As a next step, I pressed the SMU reset on the motherboard, and reset the PRAM (Alt-Option-P-R) at boot. From that time on, things seem to work. I successfully built my own kernel. I left it overnight to build world. The ramdisk I created for /usr/obj was too small, so the build failed, but there were no hangs. The machine was still up and running in the morning. Thanks again! -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 19:29:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AB0642 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15619CC9 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (vm-smtp2.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.55]) by vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0HJRiO9016752; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:27:44 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos2.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS-local-10025) with ESMTP id 1E0784A003; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1506.13419.a1); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:29:39 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (qqhDf5+8gcuOnWmKcctE3Uk9Qjp8MAI2REYOK299DDEkFyQhG0EkKBRFBx8D11N2) Message-ID: <50F85120.90602@swissmail.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:29:36 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> <50F607AD.3080201@swissmail.org> <50F80FF1.8020603@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: <50F80FF1.8020603@swissmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:29:47 -0000 Another update... The machine failed again with the same symptom. I hate this rollercoaster. :( I have ordered MacOS Tiger, replacement video card and a replacement CPU. I'll try to reseat the existing CPU first and see if that helps. I'll try the Tiger when I get it. Sigh... :| -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 20:59:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA3FDF for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrezny@hexaneinc.com) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9347EBA for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:59:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 10.0.10.73 Received: from localhost (front3-v.mgt.gandi.net [10.0.10.73]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2456A80B4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:12 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Webmail Message-ID: <7700.1358456352@hexaneinc.com> To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Origin: 81.90.254.28 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:12 +0100 Subject: PowerMac G5 spurious sensor readings From: Matthew Rezny Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthew Rezny List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:59:30 -0000 I have a G5 of the first model (PowerMac7,2) on which I've been using FreeB= SD/ppc64 for over a year. Today, it suddenly rebooted. Not the first time b= y any means, but this is the first time I found the following log message: Jan 17 17:32:19 powermac kernel: WARNING: Current temperature (MLB MAX6690 = AMB:127.8 C) exceeds critical temperature (80.0 C)! Shutting down! This is the first time I have seen such a message. After reboot, that senso= r shows a temperature near 30C, which seems appropriate. The reading of 127= .8C looks suspiciously like a max value. My only guess is there was a bad r= ead that resulted in=20 the sensor value going over the threshold. That raises a question in my min= d as to whether there is any filtering or sanity checking of the data. Coul= d a single bad read cause the threshold to be exceeded and trigger shutdown= immediately, or would=20 the excessive value have to be returned from that sensor multiple times for= it to be believed an acted upon? $ uname -a FreeBSD powermac 9.1-RC1 FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 #0: Thu Aug 16 00:43:39 UTC 2012 = root@anacreon.physics.wisc.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC64 powerpc The build is a bit old, though I wouldn't expect too much change to the cod= e in question since then. I will update to 9.1-RELEASE or -STABLE in the ne= xt few days, but as this is a problem that has happened once in over a year= , I wouldn't call it=20 resolved just by a quick failure to reproduce after updating. I was already planning to do an update after the box has completed it's cur= rent task. I noticed a problem with excessive output causing the console to= hang. A couple days ago I found the machine apparently hung in that the ke= yboard and mouse were=20 not responsive, but I found it was still alive on the network and I could s= sh in to reboot. The only clues were no buffer space for dmesg to output an= ything before reboot, and a rather full /var/log/messages file which had ex= hausted the drive.=20 Under the same workload (and after freeing some drive space), the problem r= eoccurred in a matter of hours, but this time with me watching. While runni= ng ddrescue against a drive with some bad sectors, read errors flood the co= nsole in spurts. When=20 some dozens of read errors are displayed at once, the console scrolls whole= pages by in a fraction of a second, and then goes dead. Messages that shou= ld go to console are not shown on screen but are in the log. Attempts to sw= itch virtual console or=20 to reboot are not successful, but ssh access continues to work and the box = is clearly still processing other workloads. The only sign of life from the= console are the messages about flushing buffers just before completion of = the reboot commanded=20 via ssh. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 00:02:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BA9E74 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1994E4A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so3340288oag.0 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:02:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JF/2b5FvmDrwUCw0Y7+W5n8AdDtmHZS42EaJOB+wswA=; b=q14rRqfb3wUqbxN3oZUBDRa0ou2y9BhpYQGcRX5bSpD+hgg+waVc8/z5GOG4pP4slS rxf6+s0D4ShbT7f0OZxw636DT73PhCD5lvrrSf+eTCds25CQf9EWGFIl53LpLuO7QHrw yAwhNvMNy09HLYYDgDMwy2kiJTLp8xweeYJubjaBSaa6JAv7YwUr5aX/JzSbKoTZ4Mv2 89RlXh2UlQKFaiwTwdY/C1ZGUK6RWN2N8RneFnJg47wEWz1pU6ssjfXBS0VUlQsJlNHg 3oQ5PTvlXPJo8i1p36dnZ6A4hvCp5drHMQ5Ffrk7O83yqHMOgH8IK4Px70nQE8SlukeB v4Sg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.10.170 with SMTP id j10mr5631608oeb.15.1358467370800; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.220.4 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:02:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F763D0.3080209@freebsd.org> References: <50F66C64.9090008@gmail.com> <50F6E642.5070100@gmail.com> <50F763D0.3080209@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:02:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stupid questions on installing From: Super Bisquit To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:02:57 -0000 Apologies for busting up the party. Does anyone else have a PowerBook Titanium with a G4 500MHz processor? I need the address to the monitor/VGA output. Printenv states the output-device-1 is screen. Does anyone have an output-device-2 on theirs? The screen lasts for a few minutes before the Vertical Stripes show airs. Also, again, do I need to format the usb key to hfs to boot it or do I need to have a hfs partition followed by a ufs partition? The i386 installation doesn't have support for the APM gpart option. Will it need to be compiled with it? On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Matt, > > >> Did we ever have an OF-only syscons for FreeBSD (probably early on)? I >> wonder if it would also go over telnet... > > > Early development was done with the OF console, but due to issues (maybe > now fixed?) with the context switch to OF from FreeBSD, I abandoned it and > went for a syscons framebuffer console made to look a lot like a PC. > > The OF console does still work if you boot under the gdb psim emulator. > > Not sure if telnet would work - FreeBSD is going to collide with access to > the gem ethernet and also the decrementer interrupt. > > later, > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 01:06:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B7C9F7 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A1B120 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.54]) by vm-mailout2.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0I151Er023187; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:05:01 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix-local-10025) with ESMTP id 24E764A002; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:06:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1626.10378.a1); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:06:56 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (JXxRaanBOLokP25BghaTaRclXS8yJDQPTggmOEU+FjNyXjMLA3xnATJbfzVZGCIg) Message-ID: <50F8A02E.8080703@swissmail.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:06:54 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> <50F607AD.3080201@swissmail.org> <50F80FF1.8020603@swissmail.org> <50F85120.90602@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: <50F85120.90602@swissmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:06:58 -0000 The situation took a turn for the worse. I tried reseating the processor and now I have the LED#7 blinking upon power on, and there is no chime. Tried removing and reseating the processor again, tightening the screws, etc., but to no avail... -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 01:23:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C355B74 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristof@swissmail.org) Received: from vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org [212.25.22.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612A719D for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org [192.168.173.54]) by vm-mailout1.vm.swissmail.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r0I1Njcp026656; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:23:45 +0100 Received: from vm-pemfos1.intra.swissmail.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix-local-10025) with ESMTP id 328754A002; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:23:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (PEmFoS/1626.6228.a1); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:23:45 +0100 (CET) X-Pemfos-Policyd: accepted (Ie4Ii1/BUg07uY4beagIyhLzIhYYPhEJe1IOY4YpExY6AD06AUY/IUZETkXWGyY7) Message-ID: <50F8A41E.3050103@swissmail.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:23:42 -0600 From: Krzysztof Parzyszek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt , FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 freezes randomly on G5 References: <50F4BADB.5@swissmail.org> <50F4DB79.4050900@swissmail.org> <50F5F6F4.9070803@swissmail.org> <50F60564.8060307@gmail.com> <50F607AD.3080201@swissmail.org> <50F80FF1.8020603@swissmail.org> <50F85120.90602@swissmail.org> <50F8A02E.8080703@swissmail.org> In-Reply-To: <50F8A02E.8080703@swissmail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:23:47 -0000 On 1/17/2013 7:06 PM, Krzysztof Parzyszek wrote: > The situation took a turn for the worse. I tried reseating the > processor and now I have the LED#7 blinking upon power on, and there is > no chime. Tried removing and reseating the processor again, tightening > the screws, etc., but to no avail... Sorry about this email storm, but I hope that this may help someone else out some day. I found out that the G5s with serial numbers in these ranges have faulty power supplies: CK539xxxxxx - CK608xxxxxx G8539xxxxxx - G8608xxxxxx YM539xxxxxx - YM608xxxxxx RM539xxxxxx - RM608xxxxxx Mine is G855xxxxxxx. I just ordered a replacement on eBay. -Krzysztof From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 04:38:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58AB4F0 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrezny@hexaneinc.com) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E02FBDB for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:38:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Originating-IP: 10.0.10.71 Received: from localhost (front1-v.mgt.gandi.net [10.0.10.71]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87CB172090 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:38:30 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Webmail Message-ID: <51169.1358483910@hexaneinc.com> To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Origin: 81.90.254.28 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:38:30 +0100 Subject: Re: PowerMac G5 spurious sensor readings From: Matthew Rezny Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthew Rezny List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:38:42 -0000 On Thu 13/01/17 21:59 , Matthew Rezny wrote:: >I have a G5 of the first model (PowerMac7,2) on which I've been using Free= BSD/ppc64 for over a year. Today, it suddenly rebooted. Not the first time = by any means, but this is the first time I found the following log message: >Jan 17 17:32:19 powermac kernel: WARNING: Current temperature (MLB MAX6690= AMB:127.8 C) exceeds critical temperature (80.0 C)! Shutting down! > >This is the first time I have seen such a message. After reboot, that sens= or shows a temperature near 30C, which seems appropriate. The reading of 12= 7.8C looks suspiciously like a max value. My only guess is there was a bad = read that resulted in=20 >the sensor value going over the threshold. That raises a question in my mi= nd as to whether there is any filtering or sanity checking of the data. Cou= ld a single bad read cause the threshold to be exceeded and trigger shutdow= n immediately, or would=20 >the excessive value have to be returned from that sensor multiple times fo= r it to be believed an acted upon? > >$ uname -a >FreeBSD powermac 9.1-RC1 FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 #0: Thu Aug 16 00:43:39 UTC 2012 = root@anacreon.physics.wisc.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC64 powerpc > >The build is a bit old, though I wouldn't expect too much change to the co= de in question since then. I will update to 9.1-RELEASE or -STABLE in the n= ext few days, but as this is a problem that has happened once in over a yea= r, I wouldn't call it=20 >resolved just by a quick failure to reproduce after updating. > >I was already planning to do an update after the box has completed it's cu= rrent task. I noticed a problem with excessive output causing the console t= o hang. A couple days ago I found the machine apparently hung in that the k= eyboard and mouse were=20 >not responsive, but I found it was still alive on the network and I could = ssh in to reboot. The only clues were no buffer space for dmesg to output a= nything before reboot, and a rather full /var/log/messages file which had e= xhausted the drive.=20 >Under the same workload (and after freeing some drive space), the problem = reoccurred in a matter of hours, but this time with me watching. While runn= ing ddrescue against a drive with some bad sectors, read errors flood the c= onsole in spurts. When=20 >some dozens of read errors are displayed at once, the console scrolls whol= e pages by in a fraction of a second, and then goes dead. Messages that sho= uld go to console are not shown on screen but are in the log. Attempts to s= witch virtual console or=20 >to reboot are not successful, but ssh access continues to work and the box= is clearly still processing other workloads. The only sign of life from th= e console are the messages about flushing buffers just before completion of= the reboot commanded=20 >via ssh. > Just a few hours later, it strikes again. Jan 17 23:06:11 powermac kernel: WARNING: Current temperature (MLB MAX6690 = AMB: 127.0 C) exceeds critical temperature (80.0 C)! Shutting down! I took a peek in smu.c and powermac_thermal.c. In the former, smu_sensor_re= ad() has a check for an error returned from smu_run_cmd() but no checks on = the returned data. In the later, pmac_therm_manage_fans() invokes smu_senso= r_read() and considers the returned value as valid if greater than zero. No= other sanity checks are performed. Looking at the datasheet[1] for max6690, I see that 127C is the maximum rea= dable temperature, which is represented as 01111111. The value 10000000 is = documented as representing a diode fault. As there is no upper range check,= the diode fault condition will be interpreted as slightly over 127C. I thi= nk it would be appropriate to treat as invalid any raw sensor value with th= e MSB set. Additionally, the check on line 105 of pmac_therm_manage_fans sh= ould really be "if (temp >=3D 0)" rather than just "if (temp > 0)" as a val= ue of 0 is a valid value for zero degrees and all actual errors are represe= nted as a value of -1. I have not looked at the datasheets for other relevant sensors, but being t= hat there are no range checks in any of the cases in smu_sensor_read(), I c= urrently consider them all suspect pending review. [1] http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX6690.pdf (Page 11, Table= 2)