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On, Sat Oct 05, 2013, Daamn M wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry if I'm asking a question that have been asked many times but I
> couldn't find an answer using google.
>
> I need to install few version of Python (at least 2.6, 2.7 and 3.3). I
> really appreciate that FreeBSD let me have many versions the same time. But
> I have a problem when I need some third party library. It turns out that I
> can have only one instance.
>
> For example: I have installed python 2.7 and then port py-someport. Then I
> installed python 3.3 and set PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION to point python 3.3. If
> I try to install port py-someport again I wll get an error message saying
> that an older version is already installed.

This is a limitation in package handling at the moment. The FreeBSD
ports tree unfortunately uses the origin (e.g. devel/py-someport) to
check, if a port was already installed, instead of e.g. the package name
(e.g. py33-someport, py27-someport, etc.).

This is something being out of scope of the FreeBSD python team, but we
hope for a change of that behaviour in the near future.

> The way a port is registered in the database suggest that there could be
> more than one version. I mean: port py-someport is registered as
> py27-someport when installed for python 2.7.
>
> Now I copy ports adding versio prefix. For example to install py-someport
> for version 3.3 I copy the port as py33-someport. I works pretty well but I
> don't find it a clean way.
>
> Could you help?

Your best chance at the moment would be to use virtualenv, if
possible. Most python packages feature pip support, so that you could

1) change to your specific virtualenv
2) pip install <python package>
   (or easy_install <python package>)
3) work in your virtualenv

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Marcus

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2013/10/6 Marcus von Appen <mva@freebsd.org>

> On, Sat Oct 05, 2013, Daamn M wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry if I'm asking a question that have been asked many times but I
> > couldn't find an answer using google.
> >
> > I need to install few version of Python (at least 2.6, 2.7 and 3.3). I
> > really appreciate that FreeBSD let me have many versions the same time.
> But
> > I have a problem when I need some third party library. It turns out that
> I
> > can have only one instance.
> >
> > For example: I have installed python 2.7 and then port py-someport. Then
> I
> > installed python 3.3 and set PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION to point python 3.3.
> If
> > I try to install port py-someport again I wll get an error message saying
> > that an older version is already installed.
>
> This is a limitation in package handling at the moment. The FreeBSD
> ports tree unfortunately uses the origin (e.g. devel/py-someport) to
> check, if a port was already installed, instead of e.g. the package name
> (e.g. py33-someport, py27-someport, etc.).
>
> This is something being out of scope of the FreeBSD python team, but we
> hope for a change of that behaviour in the near future.
>

Do you know something more about this future? Is there any real work done
to change it?
I would appreciate a link if you know.


>
> > The way a port is registered in the database suggest that there could be
> > more than one version. I mean: port py-someport is registered as
> > py27-someport when installed for python 2.7.
> >
> > Now I copy ports adding versio prefix. For example to install py-someport
> > for version 3.3 I copy the port as py33-someport. I works pretty well
> but I
> > don't find it a clean way.
> >
> > Could you help?
>
> Your best chance at the moment would be to use virtualenv, if
> possible. Most python packages feature pip support, so that you could
>
> 1) change to your specific virtualenv
> 2) pip install <python package>
>    (or easy_install <python package>)
> 3) work in your virtualenv

Cheers
> Marcus
>

I think I will do it that way. But it would be nice to manage with packages
from the OS level.

Thanks for your comment

Regards,
Putrycy

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On 06/10/2013 21:13, Marcus von Appen wrote:
> On, Sat Oct 05, 2013, Daamn M wrote:

>> For example: I have installed python 2.7 and then port py-someport. Then I
>> installed python 3.3 and set PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION to point python 3.3. If
>> I try to install port py-someport again I wll get an error message saying
>> that an older version is already installed.
>
> This is a limitation in package handling at the moment. The FreeBSD
> ports tree unfortunately uses the origin (e.g. devel/py-someport) to
> check, if a port was already installed, instead of e.g. the package name
> (e.g. py33-someport, py27-someport, etc.).

Personally I went and created my own variations, easy if you want one
or two, probably a hassle if you want a lot that constantly get updated.

eg to get py-numpy for python3.3 I duplicated py-numpy to py-numpy33
and changed PORTNAME to numpy33 and USE_PYTHON to 3.3 I made a few
other adjustments like renaming f2py to f2py33 and a quick replace in
the pkg-plist for __PYCACHE__ and 3.3 added to names.

So I end up with py27-numpy and py33-numpy33 installed



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Dear FreeBSD port maintainer:

As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in
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portname:           devel/py-psyco
description:        Python Specializing Compiler
maintainer:         python@FreeBSD.org
deprecated because: only bulds with lang/python26
expiration date:    2013-10-15
build errors:       none.
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=devel&portname=py-psyco


portname:           lang/python26
description:        Interpreted object-oriented programming language
maintainer:         python@FreeBSD.org
deprecated because: This port will reach it's EoL upstream soon, please
                    migrate to lang/python27
expiration date:    2013-10-01
build errors:       none.
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=python26


portname:           lang/python31
description:        Interpreted object-oriented programming language
maintainer:         python@FreeBSD.org
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                    migrate to lang/python33
expiration date:    2014-06-01
build errors:       none.
overview:           http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=python31


If this problem is one that you are already aware of, please accept
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Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o ports/182500 python     New Port: sysutils/py-halite (WebUI for sysutils/py-sa
o ports/182496 python     maintainer update: sysutils/py-salt
o ports/182433 python     [games/py-fife] try fix in 10-CURRENT
o ports/182392 python     make math/py-graphtool (does not build)
o ports/182332 python     python packages install packed eggs which makes them u
o ports/182327 python     multimedia/py-kaa-base: fix build problem
o ports/182313 python     [new port] finance/py-stripe: Python bindings for the 
o ports/182254 python     [Maintainer Update] devel/py-robotframework-ride versi
f ports/182200 python     mail/pyzor: missing dependency databases/py-gdbm
o ports/181992 python     New port: textproc/py-pdfminer PDF parser and analyzer
o ports/181991 python     (new port) databases/py-Pyrseas: tool for database sch
o ports/181981 python     databases/py-mysql2pgsql: fix building, add missed dep
o ports/181612 python     [New Port] devel/py-glob2
f ports/181593 python     math/py-numpy maintainer gone
o ports/180464 python     [patch] Update astro/py-pyfits to 3.1.2
o ports/180165 python     [PATCH] devel/py27-distribute: Fix install and deinsta
o ports/179558 python     Using portupgrade to (forcefully) upgrade devel/py-dis
o ports/178748 python     [patch] lang/python27: dbm module fails to build
o ports/178301 python     [patch] lang/python2[67]: SEM option is inconsistent
o ports/178242 python     bsd.python.mk injection of @exec easy_install to PLIST
f ports/178094 python     math/py-numpy dependency on atlas assumes existing ins
o ports/176714 python     games/py-fife: fixed make package
o ports/171584 python     lang/python32 built in a clean enviroment produces a p
o ports/171246 python     [patch] lang/python27: make python curses module work 
o ports/170788 python     lang/python27: PyQT applications crash Python 2.7 (cor
o ports/170566 python     update graphics/py-opengl depends on old version of gc
f ports/167530 python     [patch] security/py-fail2ban will never ever start wit
o ports/167368 python     [bsd.python.mk] [patch] Python version propagation bre
f ports/165545 python     [patch]: net-mgmt/collectd5 doesn't compile against la
o ports/163467 python     lang/python27: Ports using python 2.7 and "waf" interm
o ports/156759 python     [patch] lang/python: kevent does not accept KQ_NOTE_EX
f ports/154209 python     [PATCH] lang/python: Install symlink for ptags
o ports/149167 python     lang/python26 fails to build _ctypes on Sheevaplug (AR
o ports/146823 python     [patch] lang/python26: knob to build _ctypes module ag

34 problems total.


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Dear all,

the last couple of weeks were quite busy for the python team. We added a
new PYTHON2_DEFAULT_VERSION knob to define the default python2 version
to use, moved the whole default version magic into the new
bsd.default-version.mk, added new meta port versions (USE_PYTHON=3D2 or
USE_PYTHON=3D3), added automatic plist support for distutils based
ports as well as rm's plist replacement hack for non-distutils ports and
moved the zope magic into an own USES file.

I'm currently trying to remove lang/python from the implicitly set
BUILD_DEPENDS and RUN_DEPENDS in bsd.python.mk. This is required to

a) properly detect ports using a wrong python version (e.g. using
   python, although they only support version X.Y)
b) make bin/python and friends a user choice (where possible)
c) avoid issues with pkg

I'm testing each category and am fixing ports on the fly, when
everything breaks. The removal will happen in two runs.

In the first run, python:${PORTSDIR}/lang/python will be added as build
or run dependency to the port, so we can remove the implicit dependency
=66rom bsd.python.mk.

The second run will try to fix all ports using a wrong USE_PYTHON=3DX.Y
version (e.g. "yes" or 2.6+ or ..., although only 2.7 or 3.2 are
supported), so that we can add lang/python as implicit dependency for
ports, which are truly version agnostic. Those can use USE_PYTHON=3Dyes
afterwards.
Within that run, port maintainers also need to ensure that previously
added lang/python dependencies are either removed again and replaced
with the correct python version or that the ports are tested to ensure
that they are version agnostic.

Personally, I do not see an easier way to do this (without causing
problems for users), since too many ports rely on python in one way or
another and the majority of them only work with 2.7 (see
http://people.freebsd.org/~mva/ for fixes that are the result of testing
accessibility/, arabic/ and archivers/ and do the math for the whole
tree yourself ;-).

Once this is sorted out (hopefully in a couple of weeks), we can push
important changes to bsd.python.mk and bsd.port.mk (after agreeing with
portmrg@ about those) to enable package builds for different python
versions.

Cheers
Marcus

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Synopsis: [UPDATE] devel/py-xmltodict to 0.8.1

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http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=182934

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The following reply was made to PR ports/182934; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Edwin Groothuis <edwin@FreeBSD.org>
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Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: ports/182934: [UPDATE] devel/py-xmltodict to 0.8.1
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 20:20:10 UT

 Maintainer of devel/py-xmltodict,
 
 Please note that PR ports/182934 has just been submitted.
 
 If it contains a patch for an upgrade, an enhancement or a bug fix
 you agree on, reply to this email stating that you approve the patch
 and a committer will take care of it.
 
 The full text of the PR can be found at:
     http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/182934
 
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 Edwin Groothuis via the GNATS Auto Assign Tool
 edwin@FreeBSD.org