From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 01:55:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D3C961 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@drenet.info) Received: from mail-yh0-x22d.google.com (mail-yh0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B2D36C for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i21so195399yha.32 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:55:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drenet.info; s=google; h=x-received:content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Q/3i+HKrOLi8lXeJZvSU/1Z8hFBGK8Y8EMVItf8UDCQ=; b=S1XWCDREcNw1p3I4YoCPAAarGtP9fynbBC4k3AJW12S+Z5ikc4n85ZbCBZ5okCrfr6 2ldF/FtbF/w9KCWmsOEqMwY+keKSZvOQ6esise0S1ORtDyulj9ig0DoATMLUOkxwIRwh 99a0NZw/ydCGIRyUgXbVUi5vLQ9WskOWoBnl4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-gm-message-state; bh=Q/3i+HKrOLi8lXeJZvSU/1Z8hFBGK8Y8EMVItf8UDCQ=; b=GaQGKoN6OLxDL+BnKUEhhd8ppSIGcaG3Ig4CqSX3S7QqIAHO9TbOEmW/DNzDw0l9JI yo1dEpKpoG+Lh6bWzt3OPMviixm7V6d7BDaDZI+xq2ahc/QqHuMI7KfyisAA8+iwtJcN S4xKpJHFVikRAa3RMrYINNBg5e7x1qPOr6ZII0H9eJXYNyxtCyVnxV1L8VVbf8GHE2q2 1pcykwm1WFnbBu36vsP91b45Oyd/wMyIZkZoWbWrMcgRP8yEI5Xyns2NEvAEDVhY0BTj imL8o47mrMRFYBvh85ZZ9VT36aStSurGykczQLbIp9QaqFLA5jeUxmnY7UKsFJLmUDrw 3M6g== X-Received: by 10.236.123.75 with SMTP id u51mr2949374yhh.175.1364694958679; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sideswipe.accesso.office ([68.202.42.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x71sm14506933yhg.17.2013.03.30.18.55.57 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Lowell Gilbert" Subject: Re: Proper way to update ports with svn References: <515607C1.2010701@drenet.info> <44d2uhcahf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 21:55:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Andre Goree" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <44d2uhcahf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Linux) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkogdtKLEGP3TNgsPbZGvXmsMVXO8M+gjHq/7aglLNE3b6pjKNOH/4SQjx4rNGmWVKLQ556 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:55:59 -0000 On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:56:12 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Andre Goree writes: > >> I seem to have to run 'make index' in /usr/ports after I've run 'svn up >> /usr/ports' in order to see which ports need to be updated using >> 'portversion'. This doesn't seem correct...and if so portsnap would >> seem like a much better tool. Perhaps I should be running 'make >> fetchindex' instead? I'm sure I've read about the correct way to do so, >> but it doesn't appear to be here: >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsSubversionPrimer > > Subversion is not relevant; it has not changed the use of the > index file. 'portversion' is part of the portupgrade port, and > requires not just an index but its own database version of the > index file. Building your own index will be slightly more > accurate for what is actually on your box, but fetching it will > be much faster and nearly always accurate enough. Thanks for the insight! -- Andre Goree andre@drenet.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 02:24:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E82CE4 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 02:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@drenet.info) Received: from mail-yh0-x229.google.com (mail-yh0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245955F7 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 02:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 47so199061yhr.28 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:24:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drenet.info; s=google; h=x-received:content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=0fq2iaqGKOQc2jaCA0RZMR3OX+o9DcMAKrN69SMpjNQ=; b=cOF7DlbQQyYw4hwgB4h0pQhxfFYsjGJk/fYim79FssnnMf09RJy7PUHlkwc1D0C78Y os17ZmMEfwIUcZjNMN0M0BuVa5hIQe2BMV6lI4H0bRDKwm5qV46lhlou6j0m6aVaajfC +v0opJdU4xJhJGmwr2DgBccoV3Hw3n5xYPLxg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-gm-message-state; bh=0fq2iaqGKOQc2jaCA0RZMR3OX+o9DcMAKrN69SMpjNQ=; b=cbPwA7U5oJvnA/chRTvc2+yNr0r8A5L4C9Iw+FSLnyNz9EZfTWzgZEdz3XntO918u4 WPjRy3kr+H9/+qUCUPHGfvbX4Zv6YBYG5AbHAePuADOavDKKFWSNDdW6IkFnzY+k3XL8 BWxhLTZTJ9+coUaCGktb5IevBzYTCnuUvD/v4DG/eorFk/BQxQRBsnPOihkvnJgOkxPF aibCsQflpAMUiZ+8E6wQdqfIRu2mV/yuFvTvfIs/xrFZwBPH7ruquIdY7pvdD/+nH5/9 RVwTQDsjNurdchJ6yZ0cCkuzUFYGNVM0RbBZpA6abZH123d8fsvpJ/VQAPwGsazrzBsj t6lA== X-Received: by 10.236.179.203 with SMTP id h51mr4999731yhm.10.1364694912787; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sideswipe.accesso.office ([68.202.42.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z64sm14517564yhc.24.2013.03.30.18.55.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Damien Fleuriot" Subject: Re: Proper way to update ports with svn References: <515607C1.2010701@drenet.info> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 21:55:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Andre Goree" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Linux) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmnZgxEtIdXBtyie+GggNSHHRuEo4AOPWfiJ/l2BjtG6PxRpQl8XmWgpnG8wDXINaDeAOJD Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 02:24:42 -0000 On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:52:41 -0400, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 29 March 2013 22:29, Andre Goree wrote: > >> I seem to have to run 'make index' in /usr/ports after I've run 'svn up >> >> >> /usr/ports' in order to see which ports need to be updated using >> >> 'portversion'. This doesn't seem correct...and if so portsnap would >> >> seem like a much better tool. Perhaps I should be running 'make >> >> fetchindex' instead? I'm sure I've read about the correct way to do so, >> >> but it doesn't appear to be here: >> >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsSubversionPrimer >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any advice. > > 'make index' looks good to me, it's the right way to do things imo. > > What bothers you, following 'make index', pkg version output seems dodgy > ? > > Mainly, just the amount of time it takes to run "make index", lol. And the fact that I never had to do so with portsnap. I'm thinking that perhaps portsnap runs something similar to 'make fetchindex' within the whole 'portsnap fetch update' process...? -- Andre Goree andre@drenet.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 06:36:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DC2701 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5F6D12 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMBso-0001Xk-79 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:36:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:36:56 -0000 I destroyed my zpool but forgot to take the tar backup of /home folder. I was wondering if there's any way to restore the zpool? This was a single-HDD pool. zpool import -D shows the poolname but also shows that pool is unavailable and faulted. zdb commands give "no records available for poolname" The zpool command also shows the missing device by its ID number. I have left the HDD in the untouched state, and I am hopng that zpool may accept the HDD if I can figure out a way to pass the device number zpool is looking for to the GPT partition (or whatever ID mechanism zpool looks for) on the original HDD. Is there a way to do all that with ZFS? Thanks for any help. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 06:57:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736B3856 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1443AD8E for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMCCw-0000J1-Rr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:57:38 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:57:38 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:57:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Proper way to update ports with svn Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 02:57:03 -0400 Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: <515607C1.2010701@drenet.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:57:17 -0000 Andre Goree wrote: > On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:52:41 -0400, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> On 29 March 2013 22:29, Andre Goree wrote: >> >>> I seem to have to run 'make index' in /usr/ports after I've run 'svn up >>> >>> >>> /usr/ports' in order to see which ports need to be updated using >>> >>> 'portversion'. This doesn't seem correct...and if so portsnap would >>> >>> seem like a much better tool. Perhaps I should be running 'make >>> >>> fetchindex' instead? I'm sure I've read about the correct way to do so, >>> >>> but it doesn't appear to be here: >>> >>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsSubversionPrimer >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any advice. >> >> 'make index' looks good to me, it's the right way to do things imo. >> >> What bothers you, following 'make index', pkg version output seems dodgy >> ? >> >> > > Mainly, just the amount of time it takes to run "make index", lol. And > the fact that I never had to do so with portsnap. I'm thinking that > perhaps portsnap runs something similar to 'make fetchindex' within the > whole 'portsnap fetch update' process...? > In case you find this of interest, FWIW I changed from the old csup to using portsnap. I also still use portupgrade. This is the command I do to check for ports in need of update: # portsnap fetch update && portsdb -u && pkgdb -F && portversion The portsnap fetch update portion outputs "Building new INDEX files... done." at the end of its run. Notice the three subsequent commands are from the portupgrade package. Portsnap will alter or change the INDEX-7, INDEX-8, and INDEX-9 files. As pointed out elsewhere portupgrade manages its own index database file separately and in parallel, which is the INDEX-9.db file. At first glance it would seem that running portsdb and pkgdb might appear to be semi-superfluos, but doing so will check the package database and ensure it is exactly in sync with the ports INDEX-* files. I would rather pkgdb dump out an error if something is wrong, and it will if there is something not quite right in the package database. As long as everything is good it just sails on through and portversion tells me which ports are in need of upgrade. Then I read the new UPDATING file prior to doing portupgrade -a, following any instructions which may pertain. I have been doing this for 3-4 months now and it has served me well. I was doing something very similar back in the csup days, but I had to work out some small changes to the above command line using trial and error. The above result is very fast, as compared to just trying to use the same old identical CLI switches from csup days. To start from a clean slate I wiped /usr/ports and followed the Handbook commands of portsnap fetch followed by the portsnap extract commands. Once I had a new pristine ports tree I update it and check for new ports with the above command. It has worked well. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 07:25:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC79C1B for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32216E13 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMCe2-0001Jq-HV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:25:38 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:25:38 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:25:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: databases/mysql55 to databases/mariadb Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 03:25:01 -0400 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <515442B4.1070906@gmail.com> <5156CF14.6000208@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:25:16 -0000 Andrei Brezan wrote: [snip] > Also what i've noticed is that 'p' as a suffix is for percona. Oops! And I was thinking Percona but for some reason PostgreSQL came out my fingers! DOH! -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 11:23:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EDB383; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B09C86A; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.174.46.230] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMF5P-0001ID-CB; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:02:03 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r2VA21U0017140; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:02:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r2VA204O017139; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:02:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:02:00 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with ekiga3 build Message-ID: <20130331100200.GA17107@tinyCurrent> References: <3108039.oy3zg9g7JA@zeus> <20130307060112.GA2348@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130307060112.GA2348@tinyCurrent> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.46.230 Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, Derrick Dantavious Edwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:23:56 -0000 El día Thursday, March 07, 2013 a las 07:01:12AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: > El día Wednesday, March 06, 2013 a las 04:00:36PM -0500, Derrick Dantavious Edwards escribió: > > > Hi, > > I continue to get this error when I attempt to compile ekiga3. Any ideas? > > > > FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r247527: Fri Mar 1 00:38:04 EST 2013 > > > > v/r > > > > Derrick > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/ekiga3. > > > > I can't comment on the error in question, but maybe better you compile > Ekiga (PTlib, ...) directly from the sources from git; in the Ekiga Wiki > there is a small guide (maybe outdated, if so I could update this) I've tried to build Ekiga from SVN (ptlib, opal) and git (Ekiga), but it now depends on: ... checking for GTK... no configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0 gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0) were not met: No package 'gtk+-3.0' found Requested 'gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0' but version of gnome-icon-theme is 2.30.3 So, we FreeBSD folks, have no chance to build Ekiga 4.0.x :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 11:35:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33FB5DB; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwm@rainbow-runner.nl) Received: from fep16.mx.upcmail.net (fep16.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56408CA; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge03.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.238]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20130331113545.WZWV20733.viefep16-int.chello.at@edge03.upcmail.net>; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:35:45 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([178.84.132.32]) by edge03.upcmail.net with edge id JBbk1l00y0i5fp603Bbkq9; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:35:45 +0200 X-SourceIP: 178.84.132.32 Message-ID: <51581F8F.2010600@rainbow-runner.nl> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:35:43 +0200 From: Koop Mast User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Problems with ekiga3 build References: <3108039.oy3zg9g7JA@zeus> <20130307060112.GA2348@tinyCurrent> <20130331100200.GA17107@tinyCurrent> In-Reply-To: <20130331100200.GA17107@tinyCurrent> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130331-0, 31-03-2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derrick Dantavious Edwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:35:54 -0000 On 31-3-2013 12:02, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, March 07, 2013 a las 07:01:12AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: > >> El día Wednesday, March 06, 2013 a las 04:00:36PM -0500, Derrick Dantavious Edwards escribió: >> >>> Hi, >>> I continue to get this error when I attempt to compile ekiga3. Any ideas? >>> >>> FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r247527: Fri Mar 1 00:38:04 EST 2013 >>> >>> v/r >>> >>> Derrick >>> Stop in /usr/ports/net/ekiga3. >>> >> I can't comment on the error in question, but maybe better you compile >> Ekiga (PTlib, ...) directly from the sources from git; in the Ekiga Wiki >> there is a small guide (maybe outdated, if so I could update this) Would be good to see the error. If this this problem happens on 10.0 only then you could try to add USE_GCC=any to the makefile and see if that fixes the problem. > I've tried to build Ekiga from SVN (ptlib, opal) and git (Ekiga), but it > now depends on: > > ... > checking for GTK... no > configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0 > gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0) were not met: > > No package 'gtk+-3.0' found > Requested 'gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0' but version of gnome-icon-theme is 2.30.3 > > So, we FreeBSD folks, have no chance to build Ekiga 4.0.x :-( > > matthias > I'm looking into updating the ptlib/opal/ekiga ports. So ekiga 4 will happen. Btw if you can't wait for that, gtk30 was updated to 3.6, and you can get a more recent gnome-icon-theme port from our devel repo. -Koop From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 13:30:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B799D4C; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BFCD31; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.174.46.230] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMIKq-0007p6-Fn; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:30:12 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r2VDUASW017707; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:30:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r2VDUAXZ017706; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:30:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:30:09 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Koop Mast Subject: Re: Problems with ekiga3 build Message-ID: <20130331133009.GA17674@tinyCurrent> References: <3108039.oy3zg9g7JA@zeus> <20130307060112.GA2348@tinyCurrent> <20130331100200.GA17107@tinyCurrent> <51581F8F.2010600@rainbow-runner.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <51581F8F.2010600@rainbow-runner.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.46.230 Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derrick Dantavious Edwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:30:15 -0000 El día Sunday, March 31, 2013 a las 01:35:43PM +0200, Koop Mast escribió: > > gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0) were not met: > > > > No package 'gtk+-3.0' found > > Requested 'gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0' but version of gnome-icon-theme is 2.30.3 > > > > So, we FreeBSD folks, have no chance to build Ekiga 4.0.x :-( > > > > matthias > > > > I'm looking into updating the ptlib/opal/ekiga ports. So ekiga 4 will > happen. ptlib and opal compile fine out of its SVN on my relatively old 9.0-CURRENT #1 r214444: Thu Oct 28 10:56:32 CEST 2010; > Btw if you can't wait for that, gtk30 was updated to 3.6, and > you can get a more recent gnome-icon-theme port from our devel repo. I will see if I can install x11-toolkits/gtk30 without updating all my ports tree; could you please point me to the gnome-icon-theme port; thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 13:39:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C3B105 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5804BD6E for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:39:29 -0700 Message-ID: <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:39:29 -0400 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2013 13:39:29.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B88CE60:01CE2E15] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:39:34 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 09:22:22AM -0400, Maikoda Sutter wrote: >> If I use the kernel as a basis for my own system and modify the kernel >> should I still maintain the licensing of the kernel bits, or could release >> it under it's own license? >> >> For example: I would like to rewrite the headers to be 100% POSIX compliant >> and I do like the BSD license, however I was planning on releasing my whole >> system under the Unlicense, I understand that certain headers and code that >> I do not modify has to be released under the BSD license as that is the >> original license of the code, however for headers or code that I modify can >> I release it under the Unlicense (http://unlicense.org/)? >> >> I do plan on giving credit where it is due and such to the wonderful >> developers of FreeBSD and those that wrote the original code because >> without you I would not be able to produce so rapidly that which I am >> looking to produce I just would like clarification on the extent that I >> would have to license things via the BSD license. > > You cannot yourself change the license on code you do not hold the copyright > on. Period. > > If you make changes and redistribute them then add your copyright notice > with license to the files. Do not remove the existing copyright notice(s) > and license(s). > > You hold the copyright for stuff you wrote, but the original copyright > stays for the parts that did not come from you. "Parts" means any fraction > of a file from the whole file down to small amounts. You are allowed to > add restrictions (unless the existing license says you can't), but you are > not allowed to loosen the existing restrictions (unless the existing license > says you can). Also, it follows from the copyright that your license only > applies to the parts copyrighted by you. The existing licenses are similar > in that they apply only to their parts of the file. All licenses must be > followed when the file is treated (copied, used, etc) as a whole. > > Make sure your license isn't incompatible with the license that applies > to other parts of the same file. If that happens then how it will turn out > in court is anyone's guess. The file may not be usable by the public, or > the incompatible license terms added by you may be struck down, or a judge > could cook up something else. It can't be predicted in advance so just > don't even go there. > > "Giving credit where it is due" is an important social convention, and I'm > glad to see that you aren't planning on doing anything unethical like > breaking it. But copyright comes from the law and thus must be obeyed even > if you wanted to break purely social conventions. > > Read up on copyright, and when you do pay close attention to the reliability > of the source. The issue has become very political in the past 15 years > or so. Don't be badly advised by someone who has their own agenda. Most > people, to varying degrees, have their own agenda. > > Finally, if money is at stake (directly or indirectly) I strongly advise > talking to a copyright lawyer in particular. That's just general advice. > Taking advice from random people online is not a good idea if any money > is involved, but I'd give the same advice to my best friend. The general > rule applies here as it does elsewhere: "You get what you pay for." > Does one have to file legal paper work with the government to be issued a copyright on software? Does any software not having a copyright statement or any license comments included in the source mean that it's public domain? 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[89.99.199.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q42sm15639640eem.14.2013.03.31.06.58.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515840EC.4060706@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:58:04 +0200 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, andrei693@gmail.com Subject: pkgng / poudriere oddity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:58:08 -0000 Hello list, It seems I'm experiencing some issues while trying to install packages that have dependencies that have other dependencies as well, or at least that's how I understand it. # uname -a FreeBSD host.example.com 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue Dec 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # pkg install mtr-nox11 Updating repository catalogue Repository catalogue is up-to-date, no need to fetch fresh copy The following packages will be installed: Installing gettext: 0.18.1.1_1 Installing pcre: 8.32 Installing libiconv: 1.14_1 Installing glib: 2.34.3 Installing libffi: 3.0.13 Installing perl: 5.14.2_3 Installing python27: 2.7.3_6 Installing mtr-nox11: 0.84 The installation will require 149 MB more space 0 B to be downloaded Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y Checking integrity... done Installing gettext-0.18.1.1_1...missing dependency libiconv-1.14_1 # pkg rquery "%n-%v" libiconv libiconv-1.14_1 Is there an obvious reason why gettext dependencies are not pulled in and installed? If I do "pkg install gettext" all goes well and libiconv in installed as dependency. I've already did a "poudriere bulk -j jail_name -p ports_tree -c -f pkg_list.txt" for the pkg repo to no avail. To mention that on the host using pkgng I did several pkg delete -f for all packages installed except pkg. Thank you, Andrei Brezan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 14:13:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BF4F2F; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwm@rainbow-runner.nl) Received: from fep11.mx.upcmail.net (fep11.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3B8E64; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge02.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.237]) by viefep11-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.05.05 201-2260-151-110-20120111) with ESMTP id <20130331141333.JMPT21781.viefep11-int.chello.at@edge02.upcmail.net>; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:13:33 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([178.84.132.32]) by edge02.upcmail.net with edge id JEDY1l00t0i5fp601EDY9Q; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:13:33 +0200 X-SourceIP: 178.84.132.32 Message-ID: <5158448B.70302@rainbow-runner.nl> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:13:31 +0200 From: Koop Mast User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Problems with ekiga3 build References: <3108039.oy3zg9g7JA@zeus> <20130307060112.GA2348@tinyCurrent> <20130331100200.GA17107@tinyCurrent> <51581F8F.2010600@rainbow-runner.nl> <20130331133009.GA17674@tinyCurrent> In-Reply-To: <20130331133009.GA17674@tinyCurrent> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130331-0, 31-03-2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derrick Dantavious Edwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:13:41 -0000 On 31-3-2013 15:30, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Sunday, March 31, 2013 a las 01:35:43PM +0200, Koop Mast escribió: > >>> gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0) were not met: >>> >>> No package 'gtk+-3.0' found >>> Requested 'gnome-icon-theme >= 3.0.0' but version of gnome-icon-theme is 2.30.3 >>> >>> So, we FreeBSD folks, have no chance to build Ekiga 4.0.x :-( >>> >>> matthias >>> >> I'm looking into updating the ptlib/opal/ekiga ports. So ekiga 4 will >> happen. > ptlib and opal compile fine out of its SVN on my relatively old > 9.0-CURRENT #1 r214444: Thu Oct 28 10:56:32 CEST 2010; > >> Btw if you can't wait for that, gtk30 was updated to 3.6, and >> you can get a more recent gnome-icon-theme port from our devel repo. > I will see if I can install x11-toolkits/gtk30 without updating all my > ports tree; could you please point me to the gnome-icon-theme port; http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ports/misc/gnome-icon-theme/ > > thanks > > matthias > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 14:29:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133C1250 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7943ED4 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r2VETRjf011466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:29:27 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT06.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:29:27 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Joe Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing Thread-Topic: use of the kernel and licensing Thread-Index: AQHOLUmnvQSc11hxck+VwZjf98GgzJi/QgOAgADhkYCAAAyLgA== Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:29:26 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EEC4FB@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.121] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7D7CAB9E50B83543B7D23A87778B604F@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-31_03:2013-03-29,2013-03-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: "" , "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:29:33 -0000 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Joe wrote: > kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 09:22:22AM -0400, Maikoda Sutter wrote: >>> If I use the kernel as a basis for my own system and modify the kernel >>> should I still maintain the licensing of the kernel bits, or could rele= ase >>> it under it's own license? >>>=20 >>> For example: I would like to rewrite the headers to be 100% POSIX compl= iant >>> and I do like the BSD license, however I was planning on releasing my w= hole >>> system under the Unlicense, I understand that certain headers and code = that >>> I do not modify has to be released under the BSD license as that is the >>> original license of the code, however for headers or code that I modify= can >>> I release it under the Unlicense (http://unlicense.org/)? >>>=20 >>> I do plan on giving credit where it is due and such to the wonderful >>> developers of FreeBSD and those that wrote the original code because >>> without you I would not be able to produce so rapidly that which I am >>> looking to produce I just would like clarification on the extent that I >>> would have to license things via the BSD license. >> You cannot yourself change the license on code you do not hold the copyr= ight >> on. Period. >> If you make changes and redistribute them then add your copyright notice >> with license to the files. Do not remove the existing copyright notice(s) >> and license(s). >> You hold the copyright for stuff you wrote, but the original copyright >> stays for the parts that did not come from you. "Parts" means any fracti= on >> of a file from the whole file down to small amounts. You are allowed to >> add restrictions (unless the existing license says you can't), but you a= re >> not allowed to loosen the existing restrictions (unless the existing lic= ense >> says you can). Also, it follows from the copyright that your license only >> applies to the parts copyrighted by you. The existing licenses are simi= lar >> in that they apply only to their parts of the file. All licenses must be >> followed when the file is treated (copied, used, etc) as a whole. >> Make sure your license isn't incompatible with the license that applies >> to other parts of the same file. If that happens then how it will turn o= ut >> in court is anyone's guess. The file may not be usable by the public, or >> the incompatible license terms added by you may be struck down, or a jud= ge >> could cook up something else. It can't be predicted in advance so just >> don't even go there. >> "Giving credit where it is due" is an important social convention, and I= 'm >> glad to see that you aren't planning on doing anything unethical like >> breaking it. But copyright comes from the law and thus must be obeyed ev= en >> if you wanted to break purely social conventions. >> Read up on copyright, and when you do pay close attention to the reliabi= lity >> of the source. The issue has become very political in the past 15 years >> or so. Don't be badly advised by someone who has their own agenda. Most >> people, to varying degrees, have their own agenda. >> Finally, if money is at stake (directly or indirectly) I strongly advise >> talking to a copyright lawyer in particular. That's just general advice. >> Taking advice from random people online is not a good idea if any money >> is involved, but I'd give the same advice to my best friend. The general >> rule applies here as it does elsewhere: "You get what you pay for." >=20 > Does one have to file legal paper work with the government to be issued a= copyright on software? >=20 No, copyrights are more like artists signing their work -- in a standardize= d way -- but every bit as legally binding. They are "first come" priority in the court of law and if-ever disputed, of= ten require correlative evidentiary proof to show true ownership (a notariz= ed copy of the work mailed to yourself kept in an unopened envelope perhaps= ). > Does any software not having a copyright statement or any license comment= s included in the source mean that it's public domain? >=20 Be careful here. The answer to your question is NO. If a work lacks a license in the source, it may be on the website. If you c= an't find a license, you must always contact the author(s) before forking s= omething. If you can neither find the license nor the contact info, it's al= ways best to assume it is not for reuse. Even the, if you used code that wa= s from an unknown origin with no license and no author, you should indicate= as such in the header of such source files. Essentially what it boils down to, is that in the court of law (if someone = indicts or brings a civil suit) you may have to account for the origin of e= very line -- so that's why: 1. If a file has an inline license (beerware, gpl, bsd, apple, or even one = you make up all your own), it must stay there to mark the origins 2. If a file is lacking an inline license, it is often because the license = is too long or unwieldy to embed and it is in a COPYING file distributed wi= th the source code OR in a terms of agreement on the website (in which case= you should download it and place it into a COPYING file). In either case, = you must package up the same COPYING file or EULA (if allowed; the file/agr= eement must be read to know if the fork is even permitted). 3. For source files which do not have an inline license and you cannot find= a separate license, add a note to the top saying how you acquired the sour= ce (feel free to put this in a separate file but it must appear somewhere o= r be readily available upon simple request to anybody and everybody). Then,= if you make modifications to the source (of unknown origin), you then slap= on your own license for your modifications. And as the last reply mentioned, if money is involved -- ask a cooyright la= wyer (the same people in the profession of defending works in the court of = law if issues arise). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 14:31:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C136A2F0 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE69EE6 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF893249D1; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:31:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2VEVhIT001890; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:31:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:31:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Joe Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing Message-Id: <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:31:45 -0000 On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:39:29 -0400, Joe wrote: > Does one have to file legal paper work with the government to be issued > a copyright on software? With _which_ government? :-) Basic understanding of copyright is: The stuff _you_ write happens "automatically" under _your_ copyright, because you are the creator. There is nothing you need to do to achieve the copyright - it's yours by acting. At the moment you write something like "(C) Joe Sixpack 2012" it's "set in stone". There might be other ways to prove (!) copyright, e. g. when one of your files appears in someone else's work, but now with the originator line saying "(C) Nick Nosewhite 2013". In case of a court trial which involves copyright, you can prove from your CVS "log of creation" (or whatever source management system or even file system you use) that _you_ have been writing that code, nobody else. > Does any software not having a copyright statement or any license > comments included in the source mean that it's public domain? I would assume this. Imagine a snippet of code with no author mentioned in it (or in the source it comes from, or any file it is accompanied by), how would you be able to conclude something _else_ than this is public domain with _no_ copyright holder? Note that copyright and license are two different things. A skilled lawyer will be able to explain it more precisely and show you how it applies for the jurisdiction you're living in. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 14:43:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510344DF for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166F8F31 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.248.47] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1UMJTn-0006jE-UG; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:43:32 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Joe , Polytropon Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:43:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.6/16933/Sun Mar 31 12:39:42 2013) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:43:39 -0000 On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:31:43 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:39:29 -0400, Joe wrote: >> Does one have to file legal paper work with the government to be issued >> a copyright on software? > > With _which_ government? :-) > > Basic understanding of copyright is: The stuff _you_ write > happens "automatically" under _your_ copyright, because you > are the creator. There is nothing you need to do to achieve > the copyright - it's yours by acting. At the moment you > write something like "(C) Joe Sixpack 2012" it's "set in > stone". > > There might be other ways to prove (!) copyright, e. g. when > one of your files appears in someone else's work, but now > with the originator line saying "(C) Nick Nosewhite 2013". > In case of a court trial which involves copyright, you can > prove from your CVS "log of creation" (or whatever source > management system or even file system you use) that _you_ > have been writing that code, nobody else. > > > >> Does any software not having a copyright statement or any license >> comments included in the source mean that it's public domain? > > I would assume this. Imagine a snippet of code with no author > mentioned in it (or in the source it comes from, or any file > it is accompanied by), how would you be able to conclude > something _else_ than this is public domain with _no_ > copyright holder? I think you are wrong here. quoting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_software: "Under the Berne Convention, which most countries have signed, an author automatically obtains the exclusive copyright to anything they have written, and local law may similarly grant copyright, patent, or trademark rights by default. The Berne Convention also covers programs. Therefore, a program is automatically subject to a copyright, and if it is to be placed in the public domain, the author must explicitly disclaim the copyright and other rights on it in some way." Note the wording "explicitly disclaim". While German law has something like a "triviality threshold" which may well apply to very small code snippets, i'd say "no included license" by default means "all rights reserved". Regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 15:08:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0D96BB for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5C0FA0 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08FE24BFA; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:08:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2VF92SX002018; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:09:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:09:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing Message-Id: <20130331170902.bbcd8179.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Michael Ross X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:08:57 -0000 On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:43:27 +0200, Michael Ross wrote: > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:31:43 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:39:29 -0400, Joe wrote: > >> Does one have to file legal paper work with the government to be issued > >> a copyright on software? > > > > With _which_ government? :-) > > > > Basic understanding of copyright is: The stuff _you_ write > > happens "automatically" under _your_ copyright, because you > > are the creator. There is nothing you need to do to achieve > > the copyright - it's yours by acting. At the moment you > > write something like "(C) Joe Sixpack 2012" it's "set in > > stone". > > > > There might be other ways to prove (!) copyright, e. g. when > > one of your files appears in someone else's work, but now > > with the originator line saying "(C) Nick Nosewhite 2013". > > In case of a court trial which involves copyright, you can > > prove from your CVS "log of creation" (or whatever source > > management system or even file system you use) that _you_ > > have been writing that code, nobody else. > > > > > > > >> Does any software not having a copyright statement or any license > >> comments included in the source mean that it's public domain? > > > > I would assume this. Imagine a snippet of code with no author > > mentioned in it (or in the source it comes from, or any file > > it is accompanied by), how would you be able to conclude > > something _else_ than this is public domain with _no_ > > copyright holder? > > I think you are wrong here. > > quoting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_software: > "Under the Berne Convention, which most countries have signed, an author > automatically obtains the exclusive copyright to anything they have > written, and local law may similarly grant copyright, patent, or trademark > rights by default. The Berne Convention also covers programs. Therefore, a > program is automatically subject to a copyright, and if it is to be placed > in the public domain, the author must explicitly disclaim the copyright > and other rights on it in some way." > > Note the wording "explicitly disclaim". This exactly expresses my interpretation, maybe I didn't find the right words. "Obtaining" copyright is implicit (by creating stuff), giving up copyright is an explicit act. Copyright information and licensing statements don't have to be neccessarily included in the file in question, they could also be in a file "coming with" the file in question, such as a LICENSE text file or AUTHORS, or in a manpage refering to a specific program (even though it's quite common to place that information at least as comments in source files). No not finding this information in the source and therefor _assuming_ there is no copyright holder or no license (and therefor "all rights granted") is wrong. An exception might actually be code snippets "below the 'triviality threshold'" (as you mentioned is at least known in Germany) which have been published anonymously. In this case, neither an author or a license can be found, and in the absence of _both_, the assumption of the snippet being in the public domain would at least be undertandable. If it is _valid_ under all circumstances and in all juristictions, that's a totally different questions, to be answered by two lawyers with three opinions. :-) > While German law has something like a "triviality threshold" which may > well apply to very small code snippets, > i'd say "no included license" by default means "all rights reserved". As for licenses (copyright aside), this may very well be. If no rights are explicitely granted (even the "do whatever you want" right), it could be invalid to simply _assume_ such a right. The "no license included" approach, on the other hand, could also show the authors attitude as "I don't care", also a valid standpoint... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[89.99.199.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm16065805eej.6.2013.03.31.08.14.25 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515852CF.9000604@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:14:23 +0200 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CyberLeo Kitsana Subject: Re: pkgng / poudriere oddity References: <515840EC.4060706@gmail.com> <51584318.1050000@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <51584318.1050000@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:14:27 -0000 On 03/31/13 16:07, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 03/31/2013 08:58 AM, Andrei Brezan wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> It seems I'm experiencing some issues while trying to install packages >> that have dependencies that have other dependencies as well, or at least >> that's how I understand it. >> >> # uname -a >> FreeBSD host.example.com 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue >> Dec 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 >> root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> >> # pkg install mtr-nox11 >> Updating repository catalogue >> Repository catalogue is up-to-date, no need to fetch fresh copy >> The following packages will be installed: >> >> Installing gettext: 0.18.1.1_1 >> Installing pcre: 8.32 >> Installing libiconv: 1.14_1 >> Installing glib: 2.34.3 >> Installing libffi: 3.0.13 >> Installing perl: 5.14.2_3 >> Installing python27: 2.7.3_6 >> Installing mtr-nox11: 0.84 >> >> The installation will require 149 MB more space >> >> 0 B to be downloaded >> >> Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y >> Checking integrity... done >> Installing gettext-0.18.1.1_1...missing dependency libiconv-1.14_1 >> >> # pkg rquery "%n-%v" libiconv >> libiconv-1.14_1 >> >> Is there an obvious reason why gettext dependencies are not pulled in >> and installed? >> If I do "pkg install gettext" all goes well and libiconv in installed as >> dependency. >> >> I've already did a "poudriere bulk -j jail_name -p ports_tree -c -f >> pkg_list.txt" for the pkg repo to no avail. >> >> To mention that on the host using pkgng I did several pkg delete -f for >> all packages installed except pkg. > Try turning PARALLEL_JOBS to 1 in poudriere.conf and then rebuilding all > the packages. > > This sounds very similar to a behaviour I was witnessing with non-pkgng > repos constructed by Poudriere, whereby the INDEX was ending up > incomplete, and so the dependencies were never installed by pkg_add -r. > I would imagine a similar race condition could be affecting pkgng as > well. I just haven't had time to troubleshoot it very far, and the above > seemed to alleviate the issue. > # By default MAKE_JOBS is disabled to allow only one process per cpu # Use the following to allow it anyway ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=yes This one enabled was the reason behind it, disabling it and rebuilding the whole repo fixed it. I've left PARALLEL_JOBS to default, # of core's. Thanks for the pointer, Andrei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 22:25:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7973CD for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ye0-f172.google.com (mail-ye0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BBD357 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l13so299814yen.31 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=IHZKl5F0jjSL+v5fQcZTGcCCFn+81QQhxjD61O2As+M=; b=nEnEQHhYP4ekTCslJF8bU2STYq81x+yAf+1AcHaYxXcqRU2iqhHL6ThUCBaiqHOw7C I5veI6foqm7z84Iv5ypvUPd8YR2D4H+qffGoXnTNQXtvNXL5vlUkyqN+f6p5SpYF5p+Y iGDNcSE2vyIH/t0nuvtU0POYnvI3c+BcmMi1wh7Lo2tfh5ALEkIV5LvCUWaj388oHzpa /zd8zS8Hh7XnJGTcEJs6Obho3XND2llpfQhtqkdq85bl4ybaegMN0MBLVRffeMl39kA+ tyI/8GTYeN0nZtvJ9/oNCsXTYfmud5RWQKI+9ZDoYK7o7zo3yamGB0qxPaHq/9y0nV0q Isbg== X-Received: by 10.236.152.230 with SMTP id d66mr7443872yhk.200.1364768744837; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (CPE-65-30-199-101.wi.res.rr.com. [65.30.199.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i78sm22077640yhf.14.2013.03.31.15.25.43 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:25:43 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: smartd Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:25:32 -0500 Message-ID: <1669088.nIVdxTbFxh@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.10.1 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.10.1; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:25:46 -0000 Hi! I installed smartmontools, "start_smartd=yes" I have in rc.conf and I edited /usr/local/etc/smart.conf where I have: /dev/ada0 -a -d auto -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -m root When I use top there are no smartd and if I run smartd again than top shows me smartd for few seconds and than it gone. smartctl -d auto -i /dev/ada0 show: smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE i386] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Caviar SE Device Model: WDC WD800JB-00FSA0 Serial Number: WD-WCAJD1048022 Firmware Version: 77.07W77 User Capacity: 80,026,361,856 bytes [80.0 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ATA/ATAPI-6 (minor revision not indicated) Local Time is: Sun Mar 31 17:11:23 2013 CDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled ps auxww | grep smartd shows: root 1342 0.0 0.1 11004 2304 ?? I 11:32AM 0:00.02 /usr/local/sbin/smartd -c /usr/local/etc/smartd.conf -p /var/run/smartd.pid root 1659 0.0 0.1 11004 2340 ?? I 11:33AM 0:00.02 smartd root 1668 0.0 0.1 11004 2340 ?? I 11:35AM 0:00.02 smartd root 7553 0.0 0.1 11004 2364 ?? I 11:41AM 0:00.02 smartd root 8589 0.0 0.2 11004 3476 ?? I 3:48PM 0:00.01 smartd root 8936 0.0 0.1 9636 1688 1 S+ 5:22PM 0:00.00 grep smartd Are my settings correct, please? Is it good that I put in /etc/periodic.conf: daily_status_smart_devices="/dev/ada0 Thanks in advance. Mitja ---------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 22:39:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D7631A for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F845EA for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6503CA92; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:39:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2VMdrTI003044; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:39:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:39:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: ajtiM Subject: Re: smartd Message-Id: <20130401003953.1b6403ed.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1669088.nIVdxTbFxh@luna.wi.rr.com> References: <1669088.nIVdxTbFxh@luna.wi.rr.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:39:54 -0000 On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:25:32 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > I installed smartmontools, "start_smartd=yes" I have in rc.conf Without further investigation - shouldn't that be smartd_enable="YES" conforming to the syntax of other service start commands? At least that might be the reason why smartd doesn't automatically start. Sadly I can't find a reference to how to edit rc.conf in "man smartd"; at least the manual explains the options well... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 23:25:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD75D26 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621C87D1 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMRd0-0003gY-8T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:25:34 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:25:34 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:25:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: smartd Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:24:49 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <1669088.nIVdxTbFxh@luna.wi.rr.com> <20130401003953.1b6403ed.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:25:17 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:25:32 -0500, ajtiM wrote: >> I installed smartmontools, "start_smartd=yes" I have in rc.conf > > Without further investigation - shouldn't that be > > smartd_enable="YES" > > conforming to the syntax of other service start commands? > At least that might be the reason why smartd doesn't > automatically start. Sadly I can't find a reference to > how to edit rc.conf in "man smartd"; at least the manual > explains the options well... ;-) This is correct, as per: /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools/files/pkg-message.in Don't know if it's a typo in his email but he was missing a " on the: daily_status_smart_devices="/dev/ada0" line as well. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 23:33:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CBDEF4 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f173.google.com (mail-gh0-f173.google.com [209.85.160.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC980824 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gh0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g16so302094ghb.18 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:33:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=YvnG3ceB0iW6tc1MZR39tidl7rgEyU4kQ+ocANmL/BA=; b=0DNiMrDJ1G9Q6tBpwkqMre8wU2n5Su7k+UCkJsXIb7xveiqBdAKNIfzaqqymT5enZM lfV/FYr1vqZyvi921vlTeemQT0JPyc8KK6gABvOMxFnznhWgU9CWy1pZOYLEXhkST4u5 eKmGZ8rUJfEglx1fRdaK8Gld6UwLTtbTWeeBSFd2rKLbL4oRGgCSc0p8E5EKm8003z6T Yk3gHRJQrUZNr6Vv05PP6jf6UgS6zPzAZMZ63mk7t1NSq9BNqiyI2B5i1oKenNKUWLWL IlV6It8ric8lWh2KjSHYvGjFXG0b4kdcbfzJ1k+HKGdTpHw0oiY5uXJJPrrF40Z0XjNZ f/Eg== X-Received: by 10.236.162.193 with SMTP id y41mr7803062yhk.148.1364772817023; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (CPE-65-30-199-101.wi.res.rr.com. [65.30.199.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t27sm22531358yhm.20.2013.03.31.16.33.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:33:36 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: Polytropon Subject: Re: smartd Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4440166.VnFqenzef9@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.10.1 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.10.1; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20130401003953.1b6403ed.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1669088.nIVdxTbFxh@luna.wi.rr.com> <20130401003953.1b6403ed.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:33:43 -0000 On Monday, April 01, 2013 00:39:53 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:25:32 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > > I installed smartmontools, "start_smartd=yes" I have in rc.conf > > Without further investigation - shouldn't that be > > smartd_enable="YES" > > conforming to the syntax of other service start commands? > At least that might be the reason why smartd doesn't > automatically start. Sadly I can't find a reference to > how to edit rc.conf in "man smartd"; at least the manual > explains the options well... ;-) About smart_enable I red in the bellow link: http://www.freebsddiary.org/smart.php and also here is one: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=29503 Thank you. 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[65.30.199.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v48sm22583656yhi.26.2013.03.31.16.37.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nightrecon@hotmail.com Subject: Re: smartd Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:37:08 -0500 Message-ID: <1481333.sZQEoo4nyW@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.10.1 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.10.1; i386; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1669088.nIVdxTbFxh@luna.wi.rr.com> <20130401003953.1b6403ed.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:44:54 -0000 On Sunday, March 31, 2013 19:24:49 Michael Powell wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:25:32 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > >> I installed smartmontools, "start_smartd=yes" I have in rc.conf > > > > Without further investigation - shouldn't that be > > > > smartd_enable="YES" > > > > conforming to the syntax of other service start commands? > > At least that might be the reason why smartd doesn't > > automatically start. Sadly I can't find a reference to > > how to edit rc.conf in "man smartd"; at least the manual > > explains the options well... ;-) > > This is correct, as per: > > /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools/files/pkg-message.in > > Don't know if it's a typo in his email but he was missing a " on the: > > daily_status_smart_devices="/dev/ada0" line as well. > > -Mike Yes, it was a typo and I don't have yet in periodic.conf. Thank you. Mitja ---------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 00:55:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29ED0A7C for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3BCA44 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B17632E2BD for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:50:48 -0400 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: shotwell fails to build Message-ID: <20130401005048.GA8174@whisperer.chthonixia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 00:55:46 -0000 Greetings... I checked at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi and found no open bug-reports; and nothing on -questions for March. Maybe it's confined to my system, or I missed an UPDATING notice; if not, I'll go to the maintainer and/or file a bug report. Before I do that are there any clues here WRT this failure? Shotwell fails to build with the following error: ===> Configuring for shotwell-0.11.6_3 Configured. Type 'make' to build, 'make install' to install. ===> Building for shotwell-0.11.6_3 valac -c -g --enable-checking --thread --fatal-warnings --vapidir=plugins/ -X -DGETTEXT_PACKAGE='"shotwell"' -X -I. --pkg=gobject-2.0 --pkg=glib-2.0 --pkg=gdk-2.0 --pkg=gtk+-2.0 --includedir=plugins --vapi=plugins/shotwell-plugin-dev-1.0.vapi --header=plugins/shotwell-plugin-dev-1.0.h src/plugins/SpitInterfaces.vala src/plugins/TransitionsInterfaces.vala src/plugins/PublishingInterfaces.vala gtk+-2.0.vapi:5802.40-5802.42: warning: Gtk is deprecated. Use gtk+-3.0 Compilation failed: 0 error(s), 1 warning(s) gmake: *** [plugins/shotwell-plugin-dev-1.0.vapi] Error 1 *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/shotwell. uname -a FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #0 r248932: Sat Mar 30 18:08:33 EDT 2013 root@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER amd64 Thanks, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 01:28:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4306DC1 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 01:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout08.t-online.de (mailout08.t-online.de [194.25.134.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24E9B03 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 01:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd52.aul.t-online.de (fwd52.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout08.t-online.de with smtp id 1UMTJA-0005Zy-Rx; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 03:13:12 +0200 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (XZS4ywZOwhlv0CWH4B+aUXecRdZuO6SZnkR0rIenBZzKgqzNMmJlleCLvZmsHPPQLg@[84.128.231.208]) by fwd52.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1UMTJA-4LzHBg0; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:13:12 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r311D7NB090209; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:13:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r311D7Xs090208; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:13:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:13:07 +0200 From: Sabine Baer To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: OT: The future of USENET? Message-ID: <20130401011307.GA67589@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <51535897.3000901@gmail.com> <20130327212004.GA1571@tiny.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130327212004.GA1571@tiny.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: XZS4ywZOwhlv0CWH4B+aUXecRdZuO6SZnkR0rIenBZzKgqzNMmJlleCLvZmsHPPQLg X-TOI-MSGID: 029a08d8-6137-4fa4-b371-be5e18e6a7b3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:28:26 -0000 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:20:05PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: [...] > I'm using since some years http://www.aioe.org/ which has no binary > groups (i.e. no porn or warez) and a cache of 25 days. Just works. The remaining users of de.* often say they filter postings injected over this server because it has no rules against forging personalities. Sabine -- Der Schoepfer schoepft die Zeit aus dem unendlichen Quell des Nichts. Mensch befoerdert seine Zeit wieder dorthin. Klar, gaaanz einfach. Sozusagen ein Kreislauf der Zeit durchs Nichts. (horst-d.winzler in dst) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 01:36:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7125FA for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 01:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from smtp174.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp174.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF60B4E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 01:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 44C4D188959 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:28:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: from smtp156.ord.emailsrvr.com (smtp156.ord.emailsrvr.com [173.203.6.156]) by smtp17.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTPS id 2608C18893E for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp28.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DC077160097 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:28:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp28.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: gpeel-AT-thenetnow.com) with ESMTPA id 9F56C160090 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Grant Peel" To: Subject: gpart Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:28:40 -0400 Message-ID: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac4ueDgyOTpY5o4XTXG2Sui18CaJKA== Content-Language: en-ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:36:43 -0000 Hi all, I am in the midst of setting up the framework for new servers using FreeBSD 9.1. I used the bsdinstall and Manual`` option when setting up the disk geometry using GPT - graphical setup. The idea will be to eventually dump the 4 file systems, (/, /usr /var and /home) and restore them on other servers when the time comes. I am reading everything there is about GPT at this point as I have never used it before. It seems gpart is the tool to use. I have done several test runs setting the drive geometry using this as a guide: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Which worked well. But as yet I do not have dumps to test with. I was wondering in anyone sees any issues creating the drive geometry using this method, with the intent of restoring dumped filesystems to to, including the root filesystem. I am yet to use 9.1 to do so, so any tips would be appreciated. -G From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 01:54:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774743C5 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 01:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2D6C3F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 01:54:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=136cqpR1gXlciK2wcxPVa5H91XFjHotBvvu96/wjBkY=; b=p1CSChh08klAHBgT3+Bi9BO7G+mzU/OCLghCVeTh3+q9Ir6t2nnYkHTLFTbe9vExgfDMmtkZrHHcwytlIUEMIyGJjDdgUfJVKC6jDW45Mt6z2GHvyPD65qPdxgmA8ZJhlcE+DsVbyEswzCkx7rLrUOUYiD24QzmbvOVpX3MJF7Y=; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=14779 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UMTxS-002I2f-So; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:54:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:54:47 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Grant Peel" Subject: Re: gpart Message-ID: <20130401085447.5f7bef64@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> References: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:54:52 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:28:40 -0400 "Grant Peel" wrote: > I am in the midst of setting up the framework for new servers using > FreeBSD 9.1. I used the bsdinstall and Manual`` option when setting > up the disk geometry using GPT - graphical setup. > > The idea will be to eventually dump the 4 file systems, (/, /usr /var > and /home) and restore them on other servers when the time comes. > using a separated home is a very good idea. > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html I have had only one problem with this description. I could not boot from a GPT setup on my machine done as described there. But I have a disk done with PCBSD based on 9.0 which booted well. I cannot tell you if this is a problem caused by a later chance on the side of FreeBSD. > Which worked well. But as yet I do not have dumps to test with. If all worked well for you, I do not see any problems coming for you then. > > I was wondering in anyone sees any issues creating the drive geometry > using this method, with the intent of restoring dumped filesystems to > to, including the root filesystem. I have some drives which partitioning I did according to this. The only problem I have is booting. The rest is all working perfectly. > > I am yet to use 9.1 to do so, so any tips would be appreciated. > If you want this for serious servers, you might even consider 8.3, if your hardware is supported. Nothing beats the robustness of the older FreeBSD versions. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 02:06:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DA166F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-f52.google.com (mail-qe0-f52.google.com [209.85.128.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3ABD21 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f52.google.com with SMTP id jy17so1013012qeb.11 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:06:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4jVldK++dRKoq619WugbRo2oXIuzz9cIyiNgCK4cGFY=; b=AJRALN1Cx9QOt4VsZF3Th15jLY1lpWpfrnRCl+J1nB3eSLD6rmb5wK5ItMr1dXuEuq UMwnRCq8uqp1to8vweL87aG6VgyCwQQ808Nq1gn1i2SZGGnQAnWBX7o9/OyRdOBQRq0z m331VAyN77bUPF+BDLpoACvTyCt35ouGP5LMQgY0f17EH1oquln9hC/MbpYPXMQsNPZO 87EBi68N+siWpuP8e8cPr03HPaHFB9kYcP4DUTK/PxkQdcKPgXYHaXijzK5FnNHUQEBy EWBoVyVkl5WhnYWT3Atl1f1rLeKEKjIGu6JLRSsSbVuiCgNSCPHUUR6j247OSE+eY4uu eoQQ== X-Received: by 10.229.93.71 with SMTP id u7mr4343222qcm.44.1364781991339; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k8sm18757117qej.2.2013.03.31.19.06.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5158EBA0.9010000@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:06:24 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart References: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> <20130401085447.5f7bef64@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130401085447.5f7bef64@X220.ovitrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 02:06:38 -0000 On 3/31/2013 8:54 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > I have had only one problem with this description. I could not boot > from a GPT setup on my machine done as described there. But I have a > disk done with PCBSD based on 9.0 which booted well. I cannot tell you > if this is a problem caused by a later chance on the side of FreeBSD. Did you make sure to install the gpt bootloader instead of the standard bootloader? I believe I have the gptzfsboot, so I have no UFS partitions and everything's partitioned with GPT. There's no guarantee it will fix it, bios quirks happens. 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[98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4sm9168930qai.5.2013.03.31.19.09.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5158EC6C.2050608@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:09:48 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart References: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> In-Reply-To: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 02:09:56 -0000 On 3/31/2013 8:28 PM, Grant Peel wrote: > I was wondering in anyone sees any issues creating the drive geometry using > this method, with the intent of restoring dumped filesystems to to, > including the root filesystem. Geometry or partition size? If it's geometry, and you need to worry about it, buy a new system. Nowadays it's making sure your 4k block hard drive has everything aligned to 4k blocks when the drive reports 512b blocks. If it's partition size, no. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 02:13:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F391D898 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout08.t-online.de (mailout08.t-online.de [194.25.134.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD4BDC8 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de (fwd11.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout08.t-online.de with smtp id 1UMUFq-0005oQ-C8; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:13:50 +0200 Received: from amd.mersam.homelinux.org (XdNCXOZ1YhShDaN7bMIOS+I9ABCEH50QbxafeOj9x8zjI9ddNWO5hHugSh-HCe0Qek@[84.128.231.208]) by fwd11.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1UMUFl-1p79Ki0; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:13:45 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.mersam.homelinux.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r312DfE4090634; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:13:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r312DfLf090633; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:13:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:13:40 +0200 From: Sabine Baer To: grarpamp Subject: Re: OT: The future of USENET? Message-ID: <20130401021340.GB67589@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Mail-Followup-To: grarpamp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: XdNCXOZ1YhShDaN7bMIOS+I9ABCEH50QbxafeOj9x8zjI9ddNWO5hHugSh-HCe0Qek X-TOI-MSGID: 16d5f465-bb91-48c3-964d-a36a2059bf82 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 02:13:52 -0000 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 02:12:06PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: [...] > Back then you had to have brains to be on the net, now everyone is > web 2.0, and they're satisfied with ridiculous web forums. Any > brains today are all but forced to use them because the population > is so slim anywhere else. Usenet has suffered its generational > penalty. > > Usenet is still viable long term as a free/donation service, as is > irc, if operators do not carry the binary groups. Its new hope lies > with the opensource, hackerspace, anonymous, and related communities > of all sorts. No. I have contacts to the german Pirate Party. They have an own Newsserver where Mails an forum entries are mirrored. (https://github.com/Shirk/SynFU/blob/master/doc/_static/intro.rst http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Syncom) They mostly communicate - if not using www-2.0 shit - over Mailing Lists. They have different mailreader and no netiquette, they write as their program will do, html of course and attachments of different kind. I don't know how many use the news server but for sure they are very few. > As a giant distributed mailing list, it's an awesome service that > these communities really should look at more closely. They don't. I thought they should see usenet as best medium for a free, worldwide, non censored and not destroyable communication. But they are Nerds, they use facebook, twitter, google+, write to mailing lists, mostly using "webmail services" (I think so), own forums and write blogs. Oh, and etherpads and videos on youtube. It's all diversified, atomized, very difficult to find. But - they are mobile people and when I began 'advertizing' usenet or nntp, they asked if they can reach it with ervery computer from everywhere. Well, i couldn;t answer that, it is a real negativum of today's usenet. I didn't give up and created a newsgroup free.de.thalassa, but without success. It's on nntp.aioe.org and news.eternal-september.org and since a few days on news.individual.net (without the older postings). No, those civil rights activists are unable to understand the benefits of usenet or nntp in general. They prefere the services of private companies which ideed are more colourful and have more gimmicks. > Its future is up to you... will you run a server and list it as > a communication method (even primary) for your project, or not? > Will you donate a server to the public, or not? I tried to install (very easy under FreeBSD) an configure (not easy at all) an INN but I gave up. No, that's not trivial, I am using news.individual.net, a very fine server (10,- EUR a year) an have accounts at nntp.aioe.org and news.eternal-september.org. But a server doesn't generate traffic if there's a lack of people using it. Sorry for my bad English, Sabine, who didn't find yet something better than NNTP -- Der Schoepfer schoepft die Zeit aus dem unendlichen Quell des Nichts. Mensch befoerdert seine Zeit wieder dorthin. Klar, gaaanz einfach. Sozusagen ein Kreislauf der Zeit durchs Nichts. (horst-d.winzler in dst) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 02:23:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B7BB3A for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5312CE29 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mbook.home (pool-68-237-170-18.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [68.237.170.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r312A2mE051279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: gpart From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:09:56 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <18C62C2F-FB61-4146-A84F-ECAB3B779709@lafn.org> References: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> To: Grant Peel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 02:23:05 -0000 On 31 March 2013, at 18:28, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am in the midst of setting up the framework for new servers using = FreeBSD > 9.1. I used the bsdinstall and Manual`` option when setting up the = disk > geometry using GPT - graphical setup. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The idea will be to eventually dump the 4 file systems, (/, /usr /var = and > /home) and restore them on other servers when the time comes. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am reading everything there is about GPT at this point as I have = never > used it before. It seems gpart is the tool to use. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I have done several test runs setting the drive geometry using this as = a > guide: >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html >=20 >=20 >=20 > Which worked well. But as yet I do not have dumps to test with. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I was wondering in anyone sees any issues creating the drive geometry = using > this method, with the intent of restoring dumped filesystems to to, > including the root filesystem. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am yet to use 9.1 to do so, so any tips would be appreciated. I just finished doing exactly that. Worked fine. I installed 9.1 on a = drive and it had boot problems. Apparently the drive was previously a = part of a raid and graid would get involved during boot and wait and = wait and wait. To get rid of that, I formatted another drive using = gpart and then used dump-restore to move the data from the first drive = to the second. The new drive is now the master drive for the system. = The original drive has been returned to a spare drive pool. The new = drive boots fine and just works. I did a complete zero of the drive = before starting the partitioning though as I have no way of knowing if = that drive was previously in a raid array. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 03:36:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED6A4DB for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7BD268 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip68-104-24-10.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.24.10] helo=Mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1UMVVo-0006xP-HL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:34:24 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" Sender: "Don O'Neil" To: Subject: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:34:07 -0700 Message-ID: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4uiZT4k6+P7qWtQa+VSsuGziYXWQ== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 03:36:55 -0000 Hi everyone. recently my server started having issues with DNS and FTP sessions either not resolving or timing out. I've tracked the issue down to IPFW. if I issue a 'sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0' then my issues go away. I have the basic rules like this for dns; 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state When I try an nslookup sometimes they fail, sometimes they get through, even if I change my DNS server to google, my ISP, or even OpenDNS. the firewall seems to be causing the issue. I have about 65 rules in all. Any ideas what could be causing this? My server load is low, usually hovering around .2 How can I look at the actual amount of traffic that the IPFW module is processing and track down potential performance issues? My server isn't pushing much data, only around 4-5 Mbps sustained. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 03:37:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C212556B for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D99271 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip68-104-24-10.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.24.10] helo=Mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1UMVUX-0006uW-RH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:33:05 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: Subject: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:32:48 -0700 Message-ID: <049501ce2e89$95446d90$bfcd48b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4uiZT4k6+P7qWtQa+VSsuGziYXWQ== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 03:37:12 -0000 Hi everyone. recently my server started having issues with DNS and FTP sessions either not resolving or timing out. I've tracked the issue down to IPFW. if I issue a 'sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0' then my issues go away. I have the basic rules like this for dns; 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state When I try an nslookup sometimes they fail, sometimes they get through, even if I change my DNS server to google, my ISP, or even OpenDNS. the firewall seems to be causing the issue. I have about 65 rules in all. Any ideas what could be causing this? My server load is low, usually hovering around .2 How can I look at the actual amount of traffic that the IPFW module is processing and track down potential performance issues? My server isn't pushing much data, only around 4-5 Mbps sustained. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 03:58:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7837C7B2 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22a.google.com (mail-ob0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A07F321 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 03:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wc20so1606645obb.1 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:58:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=dYpslKA9zwGC26eSkfM3LKG6I4BgWX+LHL3fcrB1OgI=; b=UUgc6Cm8IFI10bZsVMN7qo6nE8IpyJQO4rLOPyJ6VlaZvgUOAOj98T/SLbP9FhZJ2O bxwV7qKXe6HiL8Ewtvzmiq3fudviG8Y973i4VoEgR7k0dC1c0U8PpnBjaVmR7ghFOC7+ cH9Q7YxD053i6q5GxIBfU7KzHBwfyT+eIEsdQWY8ZgF6av3a6SuzWQW/hnkyHFPMO+oQ 6bCgfld9dZcSsMvLHiS06gtq9xmrDR9lB9pp32e4PChVquhGWyvoBfa9bm1A1iq6nJPi GPj0glDE1mat+zeYSa0usambBT2vdWfUTFTKrgLk6heXtUMsMAa3uoybcK0Qh5XGC77y 0cbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.24.197 with SMTP id w5mr3462079oef.6.1364788688644; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.92.37 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:58:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:58:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions From: Michael Sierchio To: "Don O'Neil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm9WS7kb8F4ZOn/tSNluv3ZU81g5QoYxDypSsgAOyCO0EsmGfTvbCwIM3C3qtzRouPKrZm3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 03:58:09 -0000 It would be really helpful if you'd post the ruleset. At first glance, your stateful rules seem rather wrong, unless there's a check-state above. Also, in and out aren't discriminating enough - every packet is seen by the ruleset more than once. You should think in terms of interfaces, direction, etc. Are you doing NAT? Stateful rules with NAT are indeed possible, but subtle. Your problem has nothing to do with server load, and probably everything to do with not-terribly-well-conceived ruleset. Please post yours here. - M On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Don O'Neil wrote: > Hi everyone. recently my server started having issues with DNS and FTP > sessions either not resolving or timing out. I've tracked the issue down to > IPFW. if I issue a 'sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0' then my issues go away. > > > > I have the basic rules like this for dns; > > > > 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state > > 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state > > 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state > > 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state > > > > When I try an nslookup sometimes they fail, sometimes they get through, even > if I change my DNS server to google, my ISP, or even OpenDNS. the firewall > seems to be causing the issue. > > > > I have about 65 rules in all. > > > > Any ideas what could be causing this? My server load is low, usually > hovering around .2 > > > > How can I look at the actual amount of traffic that the IPFW module is > processing and track down potential performance issues? My server isn't > pushing much data, only around 4-5 Mbps sustained. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 04:14:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AB2B87 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [216.226.128.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494565EA for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [216.80.73.130]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D2ED3D34B; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 10:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51584318.1050000@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:07:20 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130228 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Brezan Subject: Re: pkgng / poudriere oddity References: <515840EC.4060706@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <515840EC.4060706@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:14:31 -0000 On 03/31/2013 08:58 AM, Andrei Brezan wrote: > Hello list, > > It seems I'm experiencing some issues while trying to install packages > that have dependencies that have other dependencies as well, or at least > that's how I understand it. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD host.example.com 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue > Dec 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 > root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > # pkg install mtr-nox11 > Updating repository catalogue > Repository catalogue is up-to-date, no need to fetch fresh copy > The following packages will be installed: > > Installing gettext: 0.18.1.1_1 > Installing pcre: 8.32 > Installing libiconv: 1.14_1 > Installing glib: 2.34.3 > Installing libffi: 3.0.13 > Installing perl: 5.14.2_3 > Installing python27: 2.7.3_6 > Installing mtr-nox11: 0.84 > > The installation will require 149 MB more space > > 0 B to be downloaded > > Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y > Checking integrity... done > Installing gettext-0.18.1.1_1...missing dependency libiconv-1.14_1 > > # pkg rquery "%n-%v" libiconv > libiconv-1.14_1 > > Is there an obvious reason why gettext dependencies are not pulled in > and installed? > If I do "pkg install gettext" all goes well and libiconv in installed as > dependency. > > I've already did a "poudriere bulk -j jail_name -p ports_tree -c -f > pkg_list.txt" for the pkg repo to no avail. > > To mention that on the host using pkgng I did several pkg delete -f for > all packages installed except pkg. Try turning PARALLEL_JOBS to 1 in poudriere.conf and then rebuilding all the packages. This sounds very similar to a behaviour I was witnessing with non-pkgng repos constructed by Poudriere, whereby the INDEX was ending up incomplete, and so the dependencies were never installed by pkg_add -r. I would imagine a similar race condition could be affecting pkgng as well. I just haven't had time to troubleshoot it very far, and the above seemed to alleviate the issue. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 04:34:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D27E1C for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D5C6C4 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip68-104-24-10.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.24.10] helo=Mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1UMWRM-000AqN-4L; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:33:52 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: "'Michael Sierchio'" References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:33:34 -0700 Message-ID: <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4ujRGMynDGUY1tQ0ezVG30TvRMvQABIZLw Content-Language: en-us Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:34:17 -0000 Thanks for the response... here's my full rullset: # ipfw list 00100 check-state 00101 allow tcp from any to any established 00102 allow ip from any to any out keep-state 00103 allow icmp from any to any 00201 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00202 allow ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00203 allow ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 00204 deny tcp from any to any frag 00301 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions rr 00302 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions ts 00303 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions lsrr 00304 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions ssrr 00305 deny log logamount 50 tcp from any to any tcpflags syn,fin 00306 deny log logamount 50 tcp from any to any tcpflags syn,rst 01110 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 20 in 01111 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 20 out 01112 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 21 in 01113 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 21 out 01114 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 990 in 01115 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 990 out 01116 allow udp from any to any dst-port 990 in 01117 allow udp from any to any dst-port 990 out 01118 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 989 in 01119 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 989 out 01120 allow udp from any to any dst-port 989 in 01121 allow udp from any to any dst-port 989 out 01122 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 1024-65000 keep-state 01125 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 22 in 01126 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 22 out 01130 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 25 in 01131 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 25 out 01132 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 587 in 01133 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 587 out 01134 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2525 in 01135 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2525 out 01140 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 110 in 01141 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 110 out 01142 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 995 in 01143 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 995 out 01144 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2110 in 01145 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2110 out 01150 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 143 in 01151 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 143 out 01152 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 993 in 01153 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 993 out 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state 01170 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 80 in 01171 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 80 out 01172 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 443 in 01172 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 443 out 01180 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2222 in 01181 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2222 out 65535 deny ip from any to any I've tried these rules; 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out Without the keep-state option, and the problem is still persisting... The weird thing is that I've run these rules for a number of years without any issues until just recently. I've checked my interface stats to make sure there aren't a bunch of fragmented packets or errors, and there aren't. I'm not running NAT, it's a publically accessible IP address. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sierchio [mailto:kudzu@tenebras.com] Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:58 PM To: Don O'Neil Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions It would be really helpful if you'd post the ruleset. At first glance, your stateful rules seem rather wrong, unless there's a check-state above. Also, in and out aren't discriminating enough - every packet is seen by the ruleset more than once. You should think in terms of interfaces, direction, etc. Are you doing NAT? Stateful rules with NAT are indeed possible, but subtle. Your problem has nothing to do with server load, and probably everything to do with not-terribly-well-conceived ruleset. Please post yours here. - M On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Don O'Neil wrote: > Hi everyone. recently my server started having issues with DNS and FTP > sessions either not resolving or timing out. I've tracked the issue > down to IPFW. if I issue a 'sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0' then my issues go away. > > > > I have the basic rules like this for dns; > > > > 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state > > 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state > > 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state > > 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state > > > > When I try an nslookup sometimes they fail, sometimes they get > through, even if I change my DNS server to google, my ISP, or even > OpenDNS. the firewall seems to be causing the issue. > > > > I have about 65 rules in all. > > > > Any ideas what could be causing this? My server load is low, usually > hovering around .2 > > > > How can I look at the actual amount of traffic that the IPFW module is > processing and track down potential performance issues? My server > isn't pushing much data, only around 4-5 Mbps sustained. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 04:39:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBDAF13 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB016FB for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMWXR-00062k-7J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 06:40:09 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 06:40:09 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 06:40:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 00:39:32 -0400 Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:39:47 -0000 Don O'Neil wrote: > Hi everyone. recently my server started having issues with DNS and FTP > sessions either not resolving or timing out. I've tracked the issue down > to IPFW. if I issue a 'sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0' then my issues go > away. > [snip] I'm probably not smart enough to be able to help directly with your problem but I'd like to add that there is a snowballing DNS Amplification ddos attack against SpamHaus going on which is spilling over. I was looking at some weird stuff my Suricata was reporting today when I noticed a large majority of it was coming from CloudFlare CDN. They use anycast packet traffic to deflect and diffuse such attacks for their customers. I'm wondering if your box has just been sitting there doing it's thing and you've made zero changes to it so it is essentially 'steady state' and this problem just sort of came up seemingly out of nowhere. Consider a possibility that the cause may be external and what you're seeing is just IPFW's reaction to it. A friend of mine is on a nearby Verizon subnet and he uses their DNS servers. He noticed minimal hiccup while I have my DNS pointed at OpenDNS and it took them almost a day to get their situation under control. Once they did traffic seemed to return to normal, then I noticed Suricata alerting on return traffic in my pf DNS firewall rule. All the traffic Suricata was complaining about was coming from the CloudFlare CDN. I've never seen this before, so I'm not completely certain what to make of it. My hypothesis is OpenDNS subscribed to CloudFlare's "protection", and since it is legit return traffic from my DNS server's lookups the firewall never touched it. I would never have noticed if it wasn't for Suricata. I just don't know enough about it all, just that I was having some flaky DNS stalling and hanging and when it seemed like it returned to normal I began to see this weird stuff from CloudFlare CDN on my DNS traffic. Just would like to point out it may be possible your problem is somehow just a reflection of some noise going on outside your box. As for exactly what you might do about it is for smarter people than me. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 04:59:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B049D for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22d.google.com (mail-ob0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F9B81C for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id dn14so1624703obc.18 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=EaRYcNTqv0d88ruR2ExEzwjWZizHhLyDuIPY40YrXoc=; b=LhuOqC+c031MYugwnqVtv70VmfI0MWV9vNw53DDDeGpI1b9d5i8Ojo4YAxQpaFkDLq dfQYFzPvq/QApAV2DR+w+b4p1TPMxk+y9Cy5BFrd8bdYoCZNEszD7hGy4SrsfUM95TVi 7LOfEcBf3H4KcC8E0ccSgxBMBpdqKYOxm1Qg88B9FTkx+xos2lL7BC8CazMCg2k5XxkM blNZLhQfbPoGqex7QcLm+HciH5tsdoDKu9vdo32WwHu1ogcryZAJZ8OdNKpz09U9xI9+ hGGJHu2+qCXVKRFn/FMndi9ApKhVJfQUeh91eyAI+L2wv3TWdkykPL+rvCRv+vFRiNwn FpWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.192.3 with SMTP id hc3mr3517464obc.41.1364792345698; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.92.37 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions From: Michael Sierchio To: "Don O'Neil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnu9i5TC7PDE0/XyMfR5Q9bWXqHZO5eLiKc36C6re8szKI1PgbyDNcWr1CN76veLPbY9nZx Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:59:06 -0000 I'll give you a more cogent reply tomorrow - if you use keep-state rules, you want to be a little more specific - for tcp, you want "allow tcp from X to Y setup keep-state" - i.e. you start the stateful rule on packets that have the SYN flag set. There are some other oddities here - I'm guessing that the firewall rules are there to protect this box itself... in which case your stateful rules really need only to consider "outbound" traffic, and to allow replies. Let me know if that assumption is erroneous. More later. Time for ZZZZ - M On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Don O'Neil wrote: > Thanks for the response... here's my full rullset: > > # ipfw list > 00100 check-state > 00101 allow tcp from any to any established > 00102 allow ip from any to any out keep-state > 00103 allow icmp from any to any > 00201 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00202 allow ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 > 00203 allow ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any > 00204 deny tcp from any to any frag > 00301 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions rr > 00302 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions ts > 00303 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions lsrr > 00304 deny log logamount 50 ip from any to any ipoptions ssrr > 00305 deny log logamount 50 tcp from any to any tcpflags syn,fin > 00306 deny log logamount 50 tcp from any to any tcpflags syn,rst > 01110 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 20 in > 01111 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 20 out > 01112 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 21 in > 01113 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 21 out > 01114 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 990 in > 01115 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 990 out > 01116 allow udp from any to any dst-port 990 in > 01117 allow udp from any to any dst-port 990 out > 01118 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 989 in > 01119 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 989 out > 01120 allow udp from any to any dst-port 989 in > 01121 allow udp from any to any dst-port 989 out > 01122 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 1024-65000 keep-state > 01125 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 22 in > 01126 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 22 out > 01130 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 25 in > 01131 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 25 out > 01132 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 587 in > 01133 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 587 out > 01134 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2525 in > 01135 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2525 out > 01140 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 110 in > 01141 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 110 out > 01142 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 995 in > 01143 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 995 out > 01144 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2110 in > 01145 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2110 out > 01150 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 143 in > 01151 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 143 out > 01152 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 993 in > 01153 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 993 out > 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state > 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state > 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state > 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state > 01170 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 80 in > 01171 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 80 out > 01172 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 443 in > 01172 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 443 out > 01180 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2222 in > 01181 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 2222 out > 65535 deny ip from any to any > > > I've tried these rules; > > 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in > 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in > 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out > 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out > > Without the keep-state option, and the problem is still persisting... > > The weird thing is that I've run these rules for a number of years without > any issues until just recently. I've checked my interface stats to make sure > there aren't a bunch of fragmented packets or errors, and there aren't. I'm > not running NAT, it's a publically accessible IP address. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Sierchio [mailto:kudzu@tenebras.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:58 PM > To: Don O'Neil > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions > > It would be really helpful if you'd post the ruleset. > > At first glance, your stateful rules seem rather wrong, unless there's a > check-state above. Also, in and out aren't discriminating enough - every > packet is seen by the ruleset more than once. You should think in terms of > interfaces, direction, etc. > > Are you doing NAT? Stateful rules with NAT are indeed possible, but subtle. > > Your problem has nothing to do with server load, and probably everything to > do with not-terribly-well-conceived ruleset. Please post yours here. > > - M > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Don O'Neil wrote: >> Hi everyone. recently my server started having issues with DNS and FTP >> sessions either not resolving or timing out. I've tracked the issue >> down to IPFW. if I issue a 'sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0' then my issues > go away. >> >> >> >> I have the basic rules like this for dns; >> >> >> >> 01160 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state >> >> 01161 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 in keep-state >> >> 01162 allow udp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state >> >> 01163 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 53 out keep-state >> >> >> >> When I try an nslookup sometimes they fail, sometimes they get >> through, even if I change my DNS server to google, my ISP, or even >> OpenDNS. the firewall seems to be causing the issue. >> >> >> >> I have about 65 rules in all. >> >> >> >> Any ideas what could be causing this? My server load is low, usually >> hovering around .2 >> >> >> >> How can I look at the actual amount of traffic that the IPFW module is >> processing and track down potential performance issues? My server >> isn't pushing much data, only around 4-5 Mbps sustained. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 05:02:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22806656 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 05:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x230.google.com (mail-ob0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8302872 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 05:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id er7so1607728obc.35 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:02:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=zbdRRsLQHgtMRBhLqF/WFGK9OzNxrQn5NkqPi/nApA0=; b=lSAx+dfXjAkvvoGskNlyQ5f94NlmBmrsLP6E0Vf+FE6zWJJ0T42qT7wb8Age1xGyIu Q06M/SOwoBiv30Q72RLucxTaCbsbxACw2uaNZVVLMjThDyOTYjwDm9eBUQjZFTkSDLSs Z4U+gIJTx3OHGFFK6BuQi8pf/URg1lYY8vJpfa1+yYqoTgTpIxbrF829u5OyGn13BgMX 63UMYaLU/4E/wh8em1rv8GNWuPPRD9oQUVFkNCIpWyzDhb6A20MTy25DfBXoHmLMlbCn K3q5EPibXr3OS+L0uM+mfOM+4QwEblRbyNJnlOkk500JxTTWSYhQiQYWwxmpqN6tgIIA 9ROw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.50.102 with SMTP id b6mr3505190oeo.46.1364792544565; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.92.37 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:02:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:02:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions From: Michael Sierchio To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlPSesKf2XraQlM6eGV55PTQ8JWwkX9HN3YijG7hd89gB0bCTG1DmVTcY5WhhukbvypJ9ka Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:02:25 -0000 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > I'm probably not smart enough to be able to help directly with your problem > but I'd like to add that there is a snowballing DNS Amplification ddos > attack against SpamHaus going on which is spilling over Yes, this is very much true. The ICANN servers are dropping packets like mad, and many of the .com servers as well. I am mirroring the root zone locally to mitigate. It works to forward DNS to Google's servers (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4.) EXCEPT - they are blocking some net blocks (issuing spurious negative responses) because of large numbers of nets with hosts in the botnet participating in the attack. - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 05:03:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BE3714 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 05:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F3A88F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 05:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id k14so1661548oag.25 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=GcB1rd5HasCG13s4qX62UdMdje9Vfbujqc+h0YpQZPo=; b=Tm0k1tXbg4YyshoYnDsluuJ5GnpKGA2vrUtYpbpknAAHmWxodga9B90X3EwXsqzhew /6y8aQhEpF1dLL8TAqYSBrYkQpzkEwr53LOXJIE+otaXZx8EpTqccZnHt1Y6fPmLWaW0 ZIznCm+rKmcTRIldUrJ41VVvr0jLr/etq9OGJkiPPUQxBtEhXNg4dF6CXTHf1N955iXY 060kioM5j69q9kA6PhzDTGUw0/kkAsm5XBbTFMoZiYYa8/x2tpS7PfdQAX1xzhOCQA2x 3bKsRf1Lg0zlhRpvGzWLHl6PAAKwIa3GIs1SciDJJ94IWheeI0T62EpVPNA9Zjmt++j8 IFDQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.24.197 with SMTP id w5mr3513245oef.6.1364792613504; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.92.37 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:03:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:03:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions From: Michael Sierchio To: "Don O'Neil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm0Bk3KaC+lhV6k+8nhC6bmge3WWKuqF45dCC1nPd0QuVPo5pB/CJVwcHXYGKqt7WpXRq6W Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:03:39 -0000 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime ? net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_udp_lifetime ? You might want to increase these, given the current state of things... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 05:37:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B075D3E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 05:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2B8AFE for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 05:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A314B2003 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:37:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.34 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.34 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.729, BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id T-c537b0sdN4 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:37:27 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.53.111]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D9C4B2002 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:37:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51591D14.9060606@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:37:24 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130309 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving to pkg References: <5156867D.4040807@eskk.nu> <5156966C.9060300@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5156966C.9060300@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:37:39 -0000 Are pkg dependent on FreeBSD Version? I've moved two 9.1 machines and I have one 8.2 that I would like to move to pkg. So can I move the 8.2 machine also? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 06:13:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9804C01 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 06:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE4AE05 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 06:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.15.65] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMXzW-0001XK-KK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:13:14 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r316DDg4002426 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:13:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r316DCqB002425 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:13:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:13:12 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: The future of USENET? Message-ID: <20130401061312.GA2404@tinyCurrent> References: <51535897.3000901@gmail.com> <20130327212004.GA1571@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130401011307.GA67589@amd.catfish.ddns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130401011307.GA67589@amd.catfish.ddns.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.15.65 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 06:13:16 -0000 El día Monday, April 01, 2013 a las 03:13:07AM +0200, Sabine Baer escribió: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:20:05PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > [...] > > > I'm using since some years http://www.aioe.org/ which has no binary > > groups (i.e. no porn or warez) and a cache of 25 days. Just works. > > The remaining users of de.* often say they filter postings injected > over this server because it has no rules against forging > personalities. Hi, Could you please explain a bit more what the issue is, or point me to a thread in some group? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 06:22:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41B1D52 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 06:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DB3E6A for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 06:22:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=ph7YIqCkNx+vAk8McWJUwTn0hw4ca402z9zT+wnnwOw=; b=ewjA/lE1jmnR/mOHa+xmaGoDw8e4UE8zmARut51l/SXx4maBHsei+3P+XjVlLX6Kd22yolY7hAFhGT4X69Sm7+SuJr6mjI+M07a0VpIVGyrbu8MoUoo7Ay4bDs1WbDyq+YdqOFC6h+Gwk36+AhBHeNvoRA68kVmOapp42uBewEs=; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=24479 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UMY81-003fHS-J6; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 00:22:02 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:21:58 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Joshua Isom Subject: Re: gpart Message-ID: <20130401132158.241b8199@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <5158EBA0.9010000@gmail.com> References: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> <20130401085447.5f7bef64@X220.ovitrap.com> <5158EBA0.9010000@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 06:22:02 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:06:24 -0500 Joshua Isom wrote: > On 3/31/2013 8:54 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > I have had only one problem with this description. I could not boot > > from a GPT setup on my machine done as described there. But I have a > > disk done with PCBSD based on 9.0 which booted well. I cannot tell > > you if this is a problem caused by a later chance on the side of > > FreeBSD. > > Did you make sure to install the gpt bootloader instead of the > standard bootloader? I believe I have the gptzfsboot, so I have no > UFS partitions and everything's partitioned with GPT. There's no > guarantee it will fix it, bios quirks happens. it is a real weird thing. As I installed a PCBSD on that disk originally, I have had a running system. It stopped working after some FreeBSD update. As this is an external disk, I do not boot often from it. I use it mainly for backup purpose. I stopped working on this problem for some time but I will have to go back soon after other work is finished. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 06:45:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7242B5 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 06:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF298FCC for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 06:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r316jTem030981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:45:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r316jTem030981 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r316jTem030981; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <51592D01.5080004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:45:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving to pkg References: <5156867D.4040807@eskk.nu> <5156966C.9060300@FreeBSD.org> <51591D14.9060606@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <51591D14.9060606@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2VNIIXILJPCBMKXTXIGBX" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 06:45:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2VNIIXILJPCBMKXTXIGBX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/04/2013 06:37, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Are pkg dependent on FreeBSD Version? >=20 > I've moved two 9.1 machines and I have one 8.2 that I would like to mov= e > to pkg. >=20 > So can I move the 8.2 machine also? Yes, you can. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey ------enig2VNIIXILJPCBMKXTXIGBX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFZLQgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwLogCfU/Ok8t/IyPnikZP2DJDwhxl7 CR8An1+NV9I9B4JnkUxRB8lYQOA3LU0s =j/xS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2VNIIXILJPCBMKXTXIGBX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 07:44:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABBFE92 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8BF5F5 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.15.65] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMZPl-0000aL-LY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:44:25 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r317iOEf002652 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:44:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r317iNvm002651 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:44:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:44:23 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: The future of USENET? Message-ID: <20130401074423.GA2583@tinyCurrent> References: <51535897.3000901@gmail.com> <20130327212004.GA1571@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130401011307.GA67589@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20130401061312.GA2404@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130401061312.GA2404@tinyCurrent> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.15.65 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:44:27 -0000 El día Monday, April 01, 2013 a las 08:13:12AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > > I'm using since some years http://www.aioe.org/ which has no binary > > > groups (i.e. no porn or warez) and a cache of 25 days. Just works. > > > > The remaining users of de.* often say they filter postings injected > > over this server because it has no rules against forging > > personalities. > > Hi, > > Could you please explain a bit more what the issue is, or point me to a > thread in some group? Thanks (Thanks for the explanation in German off-list). I do not participate in newsgroups or discussions where someone would have interests in fake and use my identity. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 09:23:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0051AB9 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65BDE16 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r319Ngxi000449; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:23:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:23:42 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qjail fork attribution was Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique (fwd) Message-ID: <20130401200221.T56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Dirk Engling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:23:58 -0000 Posted so people following -questions can gather what Joe Barbish is fishing for in the present thread regarding copyright and licensing. cheers, Ian ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:26:16 -0400 From: Fbsd8 To: Dirk Engling Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re:qjail fork attribution was Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique Dirk Engling wrote: > Dear JoeB, > > since you just threatened me via private email to expose my evil plans > of preventing your ubercool project from taking FreeBSD by storm, I > would like to comment on your views and your project publicly > > On 22.03.13 23:12, Fbsd8 wrote: > > > On the subject of qjail being a fork of ezjail, of course it is. > > So, you've decided to run along with an existing code base to fork a > project. Congratulations. > > You surely must have had reasons, like including features that the > original author told you never to implement. Like you found the project > abandoned and no one replied to your requests. > > Well, except you did not. I found out about your fork by chance, after > someone directed my attention to your constant bragging and nagging. > Why, after all, would you ever feel the need to talk to me directly > about the fork? After all, what common interests might we possibly share? > > So I think the only reason to rip off ezjails code was to boost your ego > with some impressive looking column of shell script you obviously had > trouble understanding, which comes as no surprise as you _still_ seem to > have trouble grasping even the basic concepts of shell scripting: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/248558.html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/247723.html > > Reading this I find it very disturbing that you try to lure users into > using your bumbling hack that pokes in one of the core security features > of FreeBSD. To put it more plainly: What you do is dangerous. Stop doing > it. You're putting your users at risk. > > > British member concluded that the author of ezjail must be British based > > solely on the spelling of the flavour directory. He also convinced us > > that his Beerware license was British humor, a joke, and should not be > > taken serous. In our review of other jail ports we did not see this > > Then tell your "British member" to read up on some contemporary > literature, maybe Wikipedia > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware > > so he has a chance to understand what connects Beerware and FreeBSD. Do > not use your confused team member as pretext to violate the terms of > license you obviously found by yourself and chose to ignore. > > > file. It was inserted in the front like they have. We though that was > > how you make software opensource which was the intention. There are no > > formal copyright documents; it's just a extrapolation from the FreeBSD > > comments. > > Besides completely failing to see the point what the difference between > open source and public domain is, you do not have the slightest idea, > what a community of people sharing their code as open source is about. > > The simple fact that you resort to Windows and IIS to serve your web > site should have warned me, that you do not actually have any connection > to the scene besides your gimme-gimme-gimme attitude. > > To make my point clear: Open source software is about attribution. For > multiple reasons, most important to me: getting to socialize. Beerware > is not so much about getting the actual beer, but to have a chance to > sit together and talk with people sharing common interests. Now you rob > me of the chance to ever hear from people using my code disguised as yours. > > Another reason, of course, is the pride we take in spending nearly ten > years on ezjail and we definitely do not like some script kiddie running > around adorn himself with plumes plucked from our asses. > > > section is not appropriate to include qjail under Freebsd opensource > > type of license, then we can change the comments to say "totally free to > > do as you wish as opensource" and leave it at that. If something else is > > needed, please inform what that is by private email. To continue this > > this subject in public is not appropriate. Please respect our wish in > > this matter. > > No, I will not respect your wishes, as you chose to ignore mine. You are > not totally free to do as you wish with the ezjail authors' code and you > can not grant that rights to someone else. > > Regarding your fork: I can not and I will not prevent forks from > happening. So I wish you good luck with it. Maybe you learn some shell > on the way. > > The qjail port has been marked RESTRICTED by the ports managers and I > will withdraw my concerns once you find a proper way to indicate > original authorship in a humble way. > > Regards, > > erdgeist > > Dear Dirk Engling I feel sorry for you. I man with such talent and respect has fallen to such a level of self induced public humiliation. This outburst only confirms my suspicion that your suffering from dementia caused by advancing age. I tried to give you a way to save face as I purposed in my private email to you. But now that you have moved things into the public light you force me to publicly point out just how confused your thinking is. The FACT is the ezjail-3.2.3 port currently in the port system contains NO verbiage concerning any type of license. Even the ezjail Makefile doesn't invoke the BSD license. Even after I informed you of this fact by private email (which I have inserted below) you choose to publicly attack me in this manner. In this post you cut and paste selected snippets of content from different posts I made, which when inserted into the above post is taken totally out of context. To make matters worse you use a subject which will slander my efforts in creating a re-write of the handbook jail chapter. SHAME ON YOU. YOU KNOW BETTER THAN TO DO THAT. I had parents who both went through the confusion, forgetfulness, short term memory lose and paranoia you are exhibiting now. I understand what you are going through and forgive you for your actions. I pray you are under medical care for this condition. There are drugs which reduce these effects and prolong the periods of normalness. After your first email informing me (which is inserted below) you had qjail marked RESTRICTED, I replied in a very respectfully manner asking you to inform me what you wanted stated in qjail to make you happy. After a week of no reply from you, it become apparent your intention was to never have the RESTRICTED status removed no matter what. Or more likely you forgot all about it. At that point I installed the ezjail port to read for myself what the ezjail license was all about and I find NO license verbiage at all. Which is an indicator of short term memory lose. The posting of this email where you say I threatened you is a indicator of paranoia. One does not have to be a lawyer to know the lack of any license verbiage embedded in computer programs released to the public becomes property of public domain forever. Putting license verbiage on your next port version is unenforceable because it's already property of public domain. Only due to the respected position you have in the FreeBSD community did the ports administrator accept your word as sufficient cause to mark qjail's port as RESTRICTED. They should have at least reviewed the ezjail port to verify your claim first. Over the last week I have corresponded with the other members of the qjail project team. With hind sight we realize we un-intentional omitted stating any where that qjail was a fork of ezjail. This was not our intention. We plan to correct that over sight by adding the following to the "Authors" section of qjail's man page in the next release of qjail. qjail is a fork of ezjail written by Dirk Engling. I am sending this post to the ports mailing list. I am here by formally requesting the RESTRICTED status be rescinded for lack of creditable evidence to back Dirk Engling claim of qjail's failure to fulfill ezjail's license requirements because there is no ezjail license at all. Respectfully Yours Joe Barbish for the qjail project team. ******************************************************* what follows it the private email to Dirk Engling sent Mon 3/25/2013 7:59 PM ******************************************************* Dirk Engling, I am at a loss to understand your claims in this matter. I just downloaded the current port system ezjail-3.2.3 port and installed it and fail to see any mention of your so called "Beerware" license in the ezjail-admin script or the man page. I respectfully suggest you have the suspension rescinded in the same quick manner in which you got it activated. With out some creditable evidence to back your claim I will be forced to publicly request someone from the ports mailing list to inspect the ezjail-3.2.3 port now in the ports system and let them judge for themselves the validity of your current claim. Just like you emailed me about the suspension being activated I expect you to also notify me of its removal in the next 2 days. I will just consider this whole thing a friendly mis-understanding. Respectfully Yours Joe Barbish for the qjail project team. ************** first contact from Dirk Engling -----Original Message----- From: Dirk Engling [mailto:erdgeist@erdgeist.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 5:42 PM To: Joe Barbish Subject: qjail fork attribution Hi Joe, I noticed your unofficial ezjail fork after your attempts to promote our little project in the FreeBSD handbook. You might possibly have missed the Beerware license attached to the ezjail project that asks anyone using the code to not claim it is theirs. However it appears that you did exactly that and even claim a copyright # Copyright 2010, Qjail project. All rights reserved. that I definitely did not grant you. For that reason I asked the port managers to suspend the qjail port until we have talked things through and I find the Beerware license respected and the project's original authors properly mentioned. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail/Makefile?r1=311478&r2=31 4731 While in principle I don't have anything against nor can I prevent a fork, I find your approach a little disturbing. Please fix your license attribution in the sense Beerware was intended, so I can withdraw my concerns and ask the ports managers to unset the port's RESTRICTED flag. After that I wish you the best with your project. erdgeist _______________________________________________ freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 11:18:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76183590 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 11:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BA078B for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 11:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip68-104-24-10.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.24.10] helo=Mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1UMckX-0008kV-Ag; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 04:18:05 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: "'Michael Sierchio'" References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 04:17:45 -0700 Message-ID: <050001ce2eca$894d0240$9be706c0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4ulkK9kLErpGtKQjeQGbxMtMftzQANAmMA Content-Language: en-us Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:18:30 -0000 Well.... I tried changing them to various numbers up to 180 from 1 and 5 respectively and that didn't help. Anyone else get around all this DNS mess with timeouts? It's causing my mail server to throw errors; host lookup did not complete and not deliver mail. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sierchio Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:04 PM To: Don O'Neil Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime ? net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_udp_lifetime ? You might want to increase these, given the current state of things... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 13:20:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD57D61D for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from smtp174.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp174.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC5B35A for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BD9771F8233 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:20:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: from smtp148.ord.emailsrvr.com (smtp148.ord.emailsrvr.com [173.203.6.148]) by smtp17.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTPS id A1FAB1F8225 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp15.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F0B74270097; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:20:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp15.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: gpeel-AT-thenetnow.com) with ESMTPA id 957C92700E5; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:20:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Grant Peel" To: "'Erich Dollansky'" References: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> <20130401085447.5f7bef64@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130401085447.5f7bef64@X220.ovitrap.com> Subject: RE: gpart Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: <006801ce2edb$a9e3fed0$fdabfc70$@thenetnow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGZylbtiDTwuI+ZG+tA6xiyXOuQQwKfMl30mRUoPsA= Content-Language: en-ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:20:32 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com]=20 Sent: March-31-13 9:55 PM To: Grant Peel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart Hi, On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:28:40 -0400 "Grant Peel" wrote: > I am in the midst of setting up the framework for new servers using=20 > FreeBSD 9.1. I used the bsdinstall and Manual`` option when setting up = > the disk geometry using GPT - graphical setup. >=20 > The idea will be to eventually dump the 4 file systems, (/, /usr /var=20 > and /home) and restore them on other servers when the time comes. >=20 using a separated home is a very good idea. > =20 > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html I have had only one problem with this description. I could not boot from = a GPT setup on my machine done as described there. But I have a disk done = with PCBSD based on 9.0 which booted well. I cannot tell you if this is a = problem caused by a later chance on the side of FreeBSD. > Which worked well. But as yet I do not have dumps to test with. If all worked well for you, I do not see any problems coming for you = then. >=20 > I was wondering in anyone sees any issues creating the drive geometry=20 > using this method, with the intent of restoring dumped filesystems to=20 > to, including the root filesystem. I have some drives which partitioning I did according to this. The only problem I have is booting. The rest is all working perfectly. >=20 > I am yet to use 9.1 to do so, so any tips would be appreciated. >=20 If you want this for serious servers, you might even consider 8.3, if = your hardware is supported. Nothing beats the robustness of the older FreeBSD versions. Erich Interesting. Up to this point I have always upgraded to the latest release version of FreeBSD. I am currently running 8.0 and am in need of many of the ports to be upgraded, and have never had much luck doing the upgrade thing with the = base system and ports, preferring instead to completely rebuild in restore = user data. Can I assume that the versions of the ports shown on the = freebsd.org=E9ports site will be available in 8.3 and 9.1=E9 -G From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 13:26:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D266A796 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8363C7 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:26:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=v0+3HOoDclbyOXtGWZg8t06t8x0poWSTSi6iiyCXsRQ=; b=hOpdD6dkD5scpO/iA5kPypdvPBHobe4rF8L1SqLUTVlhuB+4u3Lg0dRrECAaOUPQdIc5yeCODP3eUQM1qMYJvsNmsdPU5wFx+bqC/pcSFZ2V1tmbM6sqDd/+k7LaR3gnCaK0DxMKDu6J8ucVbxE2AW8n97VIadW0nR04QZwidIE=; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=37837 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UMekz-002BhS-Hi; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:26:42 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:26:37 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Grant Peel" Subject: Re: gpart Message-ID: <20130401202637.0e954bf1@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <006801ce2edb$a9e3fed0$fdabfc70$@thenetnow.com> References: <004301ce2e78$3e274fc0$ba75ef40$@thenetnow.com> <20130401085447.5f7bef64@X220.ovitrap.com> <006801ce2edb$a9e3fed0$fdabfc70$@thenetnow.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:26:42 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:20:21 -0400 "Grant Peel" wrote: > I am currently running 8.0 and am in need of many of the ports to be > upgraded, and have never had much luck doing the upgrade thing with > the base system and ports, preferring instead to completely rebuild > in restore user data. >=20 I do upgrades via portupgrade since 6.x days. > Can I assume that the versions of the ports shown on the > freebsd.org=C3=A9ports site will be available in 8.3 and 9.1=C3=A9 Ports do not use a version. So, what ever FreeBSD version you have does not matter. If you updated your ports tree, you will always get the current port version. erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 14:00:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D566E4 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.ballantine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com (mail-pd0-f170.google.com [209.85.192.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CFF7D1 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 10so818746pdi.1 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:00:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hIH7Ozabq3px1WYoX/5xj9RxfKZmPrs/+zliaEgMzqY=; b=Ugse9vmHlGxknuSAU7BAsts/5+GIV/A7vDdKfYGqSMGy+3hpqiDR1W+HL17/Gd4hDI XfZPAhM4DzjJ3JYvi6vBUVQXWmVHf6hPxPcm/kdkqat3jyI01JtQ2/Q3JCCFlJhX3sG7 +k98kOlh3JAl+YFwUKwoC/o2PMEBQ/l6NP1T4Ua2d2gZ87e1V5KrvytGDnOiiOfKz+zq 5vOAjkvi8Ke0dmu3JbAVF6A9bsmZABboFzjY5kR+NhPqvTOPRQETLLWuNi2mgGHhWULv W0t9RaC1Fk55/S5dcX61E0KHT3p6fCgU4dFPFamdCQZn5V0AJr7iVhbvgzcQffGTvLEF DGDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.183.10 with SMTP id ei10mr18855956pac.39.1364824852574; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.3.131 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username From: Jim Ballantine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 14:00:53 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to re-build enlightenment and it fails with /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to `SSL_CTX_set_srp_password' /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to `SSL_CTX_set_srp_username' I tried rebuilding ftp/curl to rebuild libcurl, but the build still fails with the same error. The installed packages are curl-7.24.0_2 and openssl-1.0.1.8 What needs to be done to fix this problem? Thanks Jim Ballantine The full end of the build is: CCLD enlightenment_fm_op CC e_init_main.o CC e_xinerama.o CCLD enlightenment_init /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to `SSL_CTX_set_srp_password' /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to `SSL_CTX_set_srp_username' gmake[4]: *** [enlightenment_init] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-wm/enlightenment/work/enlightenment-0.17.1/src/bin' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-wm/enlightenment/work/enlightenment- 0.17.1/src/bin' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-wm/enlightenment/work/enlightenment-0.17.1/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-wm/enlightenment/work/enlightenment-0.17.1' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/enlightenment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 14:23:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0C5F76 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2C3915 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id j1so2007312oag.35 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:23:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fJlxuNpVIdrNLpp1yFDvNFujKnOdlPXoWl3mooPvtBw=; b=ptxEG16JvctH0dxx4njU0Hdg5myGqAmbv2pg+5zHibHypauSwcCAnYjb6PqJZPeM8Y mjZAXOJXbzALc39saQ0swOCc7sbMCUoTFCdW1eX+TKYxb97gxItWQz/4nfk2JO9V9/GR VM8Q27rd/jyyTV2pUZ9wOSVk9iB9eV0cv/1g8LMI3fa5gv/XlRFvvXEcb9Q0EAQxBWN9 xFndXm0QUP4NJ14bxFfiH4tHF0ZUrWpGmpjLmYbADu+WDbbWNCrOdD8+9dvewIDWTli3 a2OL/nx3+I9F1u/RCwQwFRrlPUTHVKPa4EhaaHpci0LxA2798X6GjxUzfDdjLL8rLkxh IyLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.17.35 with SMTP id l3mr1972663oed.135.1364826193927; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 07:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.92.37 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:23:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <050001ce2eca$894d0240$9be706c0$@com> References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> <050001ce2eca$894d0240$9be706c0$@com> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:23:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions From: Michael Sierchio To: "Don O'Neil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnz8pVpWSSU3cyRzdPOEbvJ/Fd1Aa1r4r7eS4M3aGTSg3fRyGuOoBfQgP82h4+TI53ZrpxH Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 14:23:20 -0000 Okay, what's your DNS setup? Are you running a recursive cache that contacts the root servers directly? Using your ISP's servers? Etc. As a mitigation step, I tried pointing my caches to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. - but it turns out that Google is intentionally blocking (returning NX responses to) many netblocks right now because they contain hosts known to be part of the botnet in the DDOS DNS amplification attack. I'm mirroring the root zone everywhere I have a cache, and it's helping. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 14:26:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C11D7 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D8793E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 1 Apr 2013 07:26:15 -0700 Message-ID: <51599907.3010802@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:26:15 -0400 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130331170902.bbcd8179.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130331170902.bbcd8179.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2013 14:26:15.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE57A4B0:01CE2EE4] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: Michael Ross , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 14:26:20 -0000 snip.... How do you explain all the forks of UNIX each claiming their own copyright. They all provide the same concept, use the same names for their commands, use the same programming language, have a filesystem as their base. Just where is the line drawn between a fork and a rewrite? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 14:33:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2B621C for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F00992 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:33:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=RMkv4hD+UPn57l8a4zD/p59OaCuR3s+RoUD1N1KxL3k=; b=TTOsN4PPcPYxwGvhfFLAWZThDVUih92IUp8lmdrhkbwMGgchvTw1NijYH27warJRsHZMXrty4tlIPM621p8AdVUsLEGvEA07nXxQWYQ45WPUHxWi41zX1Uyu6esOBWZnLfO3Go+CuNifIohaJ441Bxd27k5Dv8DxOmi1yeq4J2w=; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=46903 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UMfn7-002epb-QC; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:32:58 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:32:53 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Joe Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing Message-ID: <20130401213253.36230873@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <51599907.3010802@a1poweruser.com> References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130331170902.bbcd8179.freebsd@edvax.de> <51599907.3010802@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Michael Ross , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 14:33:00 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:26:15 -0400 Joe wrote: > snip.... > > How do you explain all the forks of UNIX each claiming their own > copyright. They all provide the same concept, use the same names for > their commands, use the same programming language, have a filesystem > as their base. Just where is the line drawn between a fork and a > rewrite? just go back in history and find out why the AT&T code in BSD was rewritten. 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Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id js7sm3049198bkb.9.2013.04.01.08.21.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:21:58 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Ballantine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:22:07 -0000 2013-04-01 17:00, Jim Ballantine wrote: > I'm trying to re-build enlightenment and it fails with > /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to > `SSL_CTX_set_srp_password' > /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to > `SSL_CTX_set_srp_username' You can further debug the issue by installing sysutils/bsdadminscripts and providing output of pkg_libchk. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 16:40:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F088C4E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BA21EF for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMhme-0001f1-Dz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:40:36 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UMhmc-0002cH-Fy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:40:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:40:33 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing Message-Id: <20130401174033.9952b528818668fa12b46e39@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <51599907.3010802@a1poweruser.com> References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130331170902.bbcd8179.freebsd@edvax.de> <51599907.3010802@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:40:44 -0000 On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:26:15 -0400 Joe wrote: > snip.... > > How do you explain all the forks of UNIX each claiming their own > copyright. Look very carefully at the copyrights involved, you will see copyright attributions retained very carefully (see for example the file /usr/src/COPYRIGHT in FreeBSD). > They all provide the same concept, use the same names for > their commands, use the same programming language, have a filesystem as > their base. These features are defined in open standards (POSIX and SUS) for anyone who cares to implement them. > Just where is the line drawn between a fork and a rewrite? That's simple in essence, if it's written by taking a copy of the code and modifying it then it's a fork (until and unless you can prove that not one single line of the original code remains), if it's written from scratch with no reference to the original code then it's a rewrite. I suppose there are edge cases where a rewrite may include a portion taken from the original (assuming compatible licensing), or where a fork has been so heavily modified that little of the original remains. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 16:47:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1028F332 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.ballantine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com (mail-pa0-f49.google.com [209.85.220.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CDA24A for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id kp14so1390971pab.22 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rles3/LRRh89/AyIo1yrmlwH/zfZd69+4+pX50FGdoc=; b=hhk8Q9PnWViZWcJeBILC7Kc8NRdiD1AeYsJWaE4bcMiIhBdeJ+7dZ3Sw3s+gX+mHnn UXHdFVaygMCwu9ZiTR/OV2aNuYh+yCLaEHpNqolP1jvSpmUYhLz1koEchFRY+4nypUGo v0de/LP9tXXI9ZELUXX1CFXk/MmDxWmiPenDQ860ZNSfvuUcZaQn6Yme/m/JJEIc269D OrXuyxdr9bBZlUKxoj9CuIRV4MZh4+m1NSlfSIQMa+j1he+xVQa/24lnr1fWg8L7noYC lv/i24BB8xoAz+98w8QaGPS3PUArqf6cEJsmvqIHg/Yke/PVrpvGkkiRjyy4UBuIEDID 5hbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.102.98 with SMTP id fn2mr19505609pab.192.1364834839633; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.3.131 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> References: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:47:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username From: Jim Ballantine To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:47:26 -0000 I believe I'm running it correctly, when I enter pkg_libchk -vr enlightenment it prints nothing. Jim On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > 2013-04-01 17:00, Jim Ballantine wrote: > >> I'm trying to re-build enlightenment and it fails with >> /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to >> `SSL_CTX_set_srp_password' >> /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.6: undefined reference to >> `SSL_CTX_set_srp_username' >> > > You can further debug the issue by installing sysutils/bsdadminscripts and > providing output of pkg_libchk. > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 16:49:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32461527 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-x22e.google.com (mail-bk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA98326F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id je9so1003253bkc.33 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=S8euMsnUh4Fkilvnl1g6k6p4WRpn3yVozSAD2VmWuZ0=; b=YwyktI+SduJ3hK274v227gdmSWlC3wlvCfAZUYFWHWcg/Z97FuHVUazh8n5VQc0k5t 9dyldiz1fmc808dC6ZmOpRX3th9uj4Um9UY2t2JiKsDudcFNnQVU2/9G41irg9rrNF4a Nd+j0YuR2uaozR/ccLpe0M0Nl0srMLUW8gWi3IAEx81ihQPq45iiehLWuYeyhrOCAHx0 Ev1uqscavWmf5Z7IP1Ua/L1khuXZoCjWXe+wzzHQtcq3aAmfAdpmDpPkA5zTZ1XpE2KA /0tG6ZyyjwmGR6moPFseyXnzQMW2C7N44VdHfnin7O3Ren/CUjLtbQxNh7/rLnstiXjI +vxA== X-Received: by 10.205.42.68 with SMTP id tx4mr5331624bkb.1.1364834941689; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x18sm3124684bkw.4.2013.04.01.09.49.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5159BA7B.5000805@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:48:59 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Ballantine Subject: Re: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username References: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:49:03 -0000 01.04.2013 19:47, Jim Ballantine пишет: > I believe I'm running it correctly, when I enter > pkg_libchk -vr enlightenment Nope, just run pkg_libchk without any arguments. I don't think problem is in enlightenment or curl, by rather some library that depends on curl and is required by enlightenment. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 18:04:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED655F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5F7714 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip68-104-24-10.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.24.10] helo=Mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1UMj5i-000MW7-NL; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:04:22 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: "'Michael Sierchio'" References: <049d01ce2e89$c428ab80$4c7a0280$@com> <04ae01ce2e92$1283bf10$378b3d30$@com> <050001ce2eca$894d0240$9be706c0$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 11:04:02 -0700 Message-ID: <058e01ce2f03$4aa46c20$dfed4460$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4u5GRFuOrk0FLvQESo9a7dqa4x6AAHdY7g Content-Language: en-us Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:04:48 -0000 My DNS config is pretty generic. I did try putting in the options to stop recursive lookups, but all that did was cause even more failures (permission denied lookups, etc...), so I removed that. Here's my basic config; options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; }; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; I'm not sure the problem is specific to named, but something more systemic with IPFW.... like I said, FTP sessions are timing out as well, and when I turn off IPFW that fixes that problem too. Is there any way to monitor what IPFW is dropping, by some sort of counters rather than logging everything, and see what's going on internally to IPFW? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sierchio [mailto:kudzu@tenebras.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:23 AM To: Don O'Neil Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with IPFW causing failed DNS and FTP sessions Okay, what's your DNS setup? Are you running a recursive cache that contacts the root servers directly? Using your ISP's servers? Etc. As a mitigation step, I tried pointing my caches to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. - but it turns out that Google is intentionally blocking (returning NX responses to) many netblocks right now because they contain hosts known to be part of the botnet in the DDOS DNS amplification attack. I'm mirroring the root zone everywhere I have a cache, and it's helping. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 18:39:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7C33D9 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.ballantine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-x230.google.com (mail-da0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD8D8D1 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f48.google.com with SMTP id p8so1155600dan.7 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:39:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T32X8KAFV4i/UaXH6JNRW7/hW3r+KRrqhmPdDof3G/o=; b=ZwlWUVYR9LConLcDkrSwhbVJj2fvgD3LcVq19NJud+kuxqad/0ovbof+jyrejsAWDG fSnDeGi4GcxAN8x03HcasceZiZumQhekmvax4jUl55q5h76dJQ/2J3sE3KhlUDwbzJWw m4tRaYrvUtKJ45O1wgiIlyUiTmW3A2YyZYRWyR5yAS0nvF8jwCLOEddqzapu8bJqfL6Q 1kpHmDsjZzgZzObgeP08saFm5f5LbGM0dIJvIm/1qT5Yxitg7q28ZVGIDHusJsnIAht4 PKGPiKwWsuqPTUoqZjKGVujSint6GmsjH/Tn4cJ73gv+MMlm6HlTBHhXJ7cGVSipyiVX +BwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.183.10 with SMTP id ei10mr20166700pac.39.1364841564946; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.3.131 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 11:39:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5159BA7B.5000805@gmail.com> References: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> <5159BA7B.5000805@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:39:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username From: Jim Ballantine To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:39:26 -0000 OK, I ran just pkg_libchk and the output is: # pkg_libchk xfce4-tumbler-0.1.27_1: /usr/local/lib/tumbler-1/plugins/tumbler-poppler-thumbnailer.so misses libpoppler.so.18 I'll install it and try again, but it doesn't seem like the cause. Jim On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrot= e: > 01.04.2013 19:47, Jim Ballantine =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > I believe I'm running it correctly, when I enter >> pkg_libchk -vr enlightenment >> > > Nope, just run pkg_libchk without any arguments. I don't think problem is > in enlightenment or curl, by rather some library that depends on curl and > is required by enlightenment. > > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 1 20:06:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B121B7E for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1244DBC for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c12so2679474ieb.6 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:05:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bpOJey3plvOpCJ4BT3PDLQwXYMsSAiTdy+m96aMlcSE=; b=iYLodoN+Faf8WBPJOsO50A/7lKRLJX6b3d0M1ARuhTJdlKsVxXy1jcefGLWMHcc+J0 Vzaab8ChJEzvTzQL5WuFyDv7ecWhzg8bUT5R5Z0/YgFZ3tMq7qjnD5VeK1qE4mK8NDVE Obx4AsqcQwCXN0lWFA4HURmNtMzXg6ZuKTl+TL38Ycnk8Kuq8gQ7BDMGPp1LUB+MIyi9 JgvnjF9Kt7nZ3sU4vEXpzHWQjDWIAIu9PjD+1NfxtQHRlJKscudwmh+Rb0IuiXXjoVa9 XU5hqw70eoTDxFZR7yLvLmqJXHgMjEzTHMgXRZHw8iQAZXfJVvm1CxvidnUzpOiSES2l wLFg== X-Received: by 10.42.42.69 with SMTP id s5mr5610485ice.2.1364846758972; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c14sm5832827ign.2.2013.04.01.13.05.57 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5159E89F.9020909@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:05:51 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130331170902.bbcd8179.freebsd@edvax.de> <51599907.3010802@a1poweruser.com> <20130401213253.36230873@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130401164144.GA56768@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20130401164144.GA56768@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:06:00 -0000 On 4/1/2013 11:41 AM, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > Copyright covers expressions of ideas. It does not cover the ideas themselves. > You can't copyright a concept, you can't copyright filesystems, and I > believe in the past few years a high court in the EU ruled that you can't > copyright a programming language. None of the things mentioned above are > covered by copyright. > > Copyright would cover the implementations of these things. That's why it > was necessary to reimplement much of BSD. > Here's where it gets annoying, copyrights cover implementations, and patents can cover the ideas. A lot of patents use an "on a computer" line to get it called an invention instead of an math equation. 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Kindly send your name & location for more info. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 03:02:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0DBBFC for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 03:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C32AC5 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 03:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17FA3AF41 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Recipie for CPU souffle' Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:02:02 -0700 Message-ID: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 03:02:14 -0000 [[ Mostly, this posting is just a story. But it does include one question, towards the end. See below. ]] Well, I accidentally found what I believe is most likely the reason for the system halts I have been having recently, so I just thought that I would share that. It _is_ a bit humorous. (The mystery system shutdowns have _not_ been due to a power issue, it would appear.) I just now experienced another episode in which the machine powered itself off, as I was working on it, for no apparently good reason. Since it was down anyway, I decided that this would be a good time to pull out that *&^%$#@ bleedin' new USB 3.0 PCIe card I had recently installed... just in case that was causing the problem. As I reached in to begin extracting the PCIe card, the tip of one of my fingers accidentally brushed up against my CPU heatsink. I in- stinctively yanked it away immediately. If I had not done so, I would probably have gotten a third degree burn. I left the system off for a couple of minutes after that... to let it cool down a bit before doing anything else... and then I powered it back on, checked that the CPU fan was indeed turning (it was) and then I went immediately to the BIOS and the PC Heath Status. The CPU temperature was listed as being 63c == 145f !!! And this was _after_ I had allowed the system to be powered down for a couple of minutes to cool down!!! So anyway, the fan turned and I watched the CPU temp slowly inch down to something more normal... like in the vicinity of 24c. I don't know what to make of this, except to suspect that some loose wires inside my case got in the way of the CPU fan turning. (I am not neat like some folks. The inside of myu case _is_ really rather sloppy, so this could easly have happened.) I've now installed mbmon and xmbmon and will be watching the CPU temp closely for awhile. I really wish that one or the other of those tools allowed setting a threshold CPU temp, beyond which the tool would emit an ear piercing alarm via the motherboard speaker... you know.. in case the regular external stereo speakers are turned off. What *is* the best way to achieve the above effect, i.e. to arrange for the machine to scream for help in case it is getting too hot? I don't want it to just die, like it is doing now. I want it to scream so that I can rush over and at least try to do an orderly shutdown. Regards, rfg P.S. I am loading the system pretty heavily now, and have been for the last 20+ minutes, and xmbmon is showing me a nice constant 31c for the CPU temp. So for the moment at least, all is well. P.P.S. I have a (relatively) monster sized heatsink in this system, and it sits atop a quite modest 2.7GHz single-core Athlon, so it is not at all surprising that the ``stable'' CPU temp is around 30c (86f). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 04:44:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93855265 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 04:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7E7B0 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 04:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMt5F-0006zi-A0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:44:33 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:44:33 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:44:33 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 00:43:56 -0400 Lines: 94 Message-ID: References: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 04:44:22 -0000 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > [[ Mostly, this posting is just a story. But it does include one > question, towards the end. See below. ]] > > Well, I accidentally found what I believe is most likely the reason > for the system halts I have been having recently, so I just thought > that I would share that. It _is_ a bit humorous. (The mystery system > shutdowns have _not_ been due to a power issue, it would appear.) > > I just now experienced another episode in which the machine powered > itself off, as I was working on it, for no apparently good reason. > > Since it was down anyway, I decided that this would be a good time to > pull out that *&^%$#@ bleedin' new USB 3.0 PCIe card I had recently > installed... just in case that was causing the problem. > > As I reached in to begin extracting the PCIe card, the tip of one of > my fingers accidentally brushed up against my CPU heatsink. I in- > stinctively yanked it away immediately. If I had not done so, I > would probably have gotten a third degree burn. > > I left the system off for a couple of minutes after that... to let it > cool down a bit before doing anything else... and then I powered it > back on, checked that the CPU fan was indeed turning (it was) and then > I went immediately to the BIOS and the PC Heath Status. > > The CPU temperature was listed as being 63c == 145f !!! And this was > _after_ I had allowed the system to be powered down for a couple of > minutes to cool down!!! > > So anyway, the fan turned and I watched the CPU temp slowly inch down > to something more normal... like in the vicinity of 24c. > > I don't know what to make of this, except to suspect that some loose > wires inside my case got in the way of the CPU fan turning. (I am > not neat like some folks. The inside of myu case _is_ really rather > sloppy, so this could easly have happened.) > > I've now installed mbmon and xmbmon and will be watching the CPU temp > closely for awhile. > > I really wish that one or the other of those tools allowed setting a > threshold CPU temp, beyond which the tool would emit an ear piercing > alarm via the motherboard speaker... you know.. in case the regular > external stereo speakers are turned off. > > > What *is* the best way to achieve the above effect, i.e. to arrange > for the machine to scream for help in case it is getting too hot? > > I don't want it to just die, like it is doing now. I want it to scream > so that I can rush over and at least try to do an orderly shutdown. > > > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I am loading the system pretty heavily now, and have been for the > last 20+ minutes, and xmbmon is showing me a nice constant 31c for the > CPU temp. So for the moment at least, all is well. > > P.P.S. I have a (relatively) monster sized heatsink in this system, and > it sits atop a quite modest 2.7GHz single-core Athlon, so it is not at > all surprising that the ``stable'' CPU temp is around 30c (86f). Many old Athlons from the older generation used a thermal pad for heat transfer. It was what looked like a little piece of soft plastic almost something like a milimeter thick and an inch or so square that would have come preapplied to the OEM heat sink which accompanied the CPU in a retail box set. With these processors you cannot just simply smear a lot of thermal grease in there as a replacement. Indeed, doing so (not using a thermal pad) voids the warranty. Thermal grease works best when it is applied as a very thin but evenly distributed layer and the heat sink is then clamped down very tightly so it is in very close contact with the processor. Doing this (using just thermal grease in lieu of the pad) leaves a small void or gap through there will be little heat transfer. You might want to confirm that your processor model requires a thermal pad and not grease. Then hunt some down and use it instead of thermal grease. I seem to recall they were somewhat difficult to locate a place from which to purchase. Also the backing paper was darn near impossible to get off without destroying it (why the OEM cooler had it pre-applied). So get a few of them so you can tear up a couple before you succeed. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 05:00:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D563DF for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sclists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E6881D for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id hx10so30484vcb.19 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:00:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GQZgESAUrxaPstgyuVob5r2z8CYY6MhWEP0WGoCP4r4=; b=yHlr3EVoO5Bj1RMa+Tyfqshk0D8uNrnzsbBd9hhCM3tUUXjtvgbzDa/nCfU+V9agnA vsfUL3A0rVq7x2rsUPbpBlPlZI6P0S7B+SRUjQrm6TwJ4E63/pWY/jF9GKvqDmiCbJGG vxudzHQzb8yBoQY1lijligW2vMysrQ/bPQLCK/iEHw7wsyph2wO8HlCjyzOtanTW46dp 4Bbfr+UUDV3IIvr4XKE5CwPRxwGSnrIwZsYJqux3IFT794hKzg+DKlvckjr4KxpzhGKl yKIS3nd/iE+ktCw1B9lgbSMKqx4fRBMo+R7DKTLxTvVSBO6NUjQ4P3AbzljCtidJIRQf XOWQ== X-Received: by 10.220.90.145 with SMTP id i17mr11404405vcm.25.1364878826849; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ool-44c0cdb5.dyn.optonline.net. [68.192.205.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tf2sm63744veb.8.2013.04.01.22.00.25 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515A65FC.5090706@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 01:00:44 -0400 From: Stephen Cook User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: qjail fork attribution was Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique (fwd) References: <20130401200221.T56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20130401200221.T56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dirk Engling , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 05:00:33 -0000 On 4/1/2013 5:23 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > One does not have to be a lawyer to know the lack of any license verbiage > embedded in computer programs released to the public becomes property of public > domain forever. Putting license verbiage on your next port version is > unenforceable because it's already property of public domain. I don't know enough about the original disagreement to comment on it, but this part is completely untrue. IANAL but I can use Google and common sense. Under the Berne Convention, if there is no notice included with a copyrightable work, it defaults to "all rights reserved". Until you receive explicit permission, or a permissive license is included, it is assumed that you *cannot* legally copy or derive from that work. So, if there is no license at all attached to ezjail, as you say, you are infringing copyright. Luckily for you, the ezjail web page declares it to be licensed as Beer Ware after all. Nothing personal, I just tend to correct people when they make up laws, especially after a long enough period where I didn't get to criticize anyone's grammar. :-) -- Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 06:14:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D3B2D8 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F970A2C for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66382 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2013 06:14:40 -0000 Received: from 173.48.104.62 (HELO ?10.2.2.1?) (173.48.104.62) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 2 Apr 2013 06:14:40 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 173.48.104.62 Message-ID: <515A7750.2050003@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:14:40 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' References: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 06:14:48 -0000 > You might want to confirm that your processor model requires a thermal pad > and not grease. Then hunt some down and use it instead of thermal grease. I > seem to recall they were somewhat difficult to locate a place from which to > purchase. It's not that bad these days, search amazon or something for "thermal pad" and you'll get a bunch of results. Just make sure you get an actual flexible pad and not a polished copper shim, which are often sold under the same name. ______________________________________ it has a certain smooth-brained appeal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 07:58:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEA364B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maurizio.vairani@cloverinformatica.it) Received: from smtpdg4.aruba.it (smtpdg2.aruba.it [62.149.158.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D8DE34 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cloverinformatica.it ([151.55.126.48]) by smtpcmd02.ad.aruba.it with bizsmtp id Jvyb1l01112mZvb01vyb0l; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:58:35 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.185] (ASUS-TERMINATOR [192.168.0.185]) by cloverinformatica.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EF310D2B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <515A8FA9.3030408@cloverinformatica.it> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:58:33 +0200 From: Maurizio Vairani User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkgng: ignoring some papckaes in 'pkg upgrade' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 07:58:45 -0000 Hello, is possible to ignore some packages with the 'pkg upgrade' command ? In particular I don't want the upgrade of the 'conky' package, because it is compiled with a non-standard options. 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with ESMTP id 2B8A5F8B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 08:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE96C5E4A4 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:36:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.986 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.986 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id I1J+jfZZOfQR for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:36:28 +0200 (CEST) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.53.111]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D108B5E52E for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:35:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <515A9863.9090406@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:35:47 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130309 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: pkg search k3b returns nothing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 08:36:42 -0000 I've just changed to pkg and thought that I would try out how it works. After copying the pkg.conf.sample to pkg.conf and doing pkg update Updating repository catalogue repo.txz 100% 1836 1.8KB/s 1.8KB/s 00:00 I tried the command pkg search k3b and it returned with nothing. Is it so that not all ports are available as packages and that's why I don't get anything? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 09:00:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BF07ED for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE69711E for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:00:28 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUBAMacWlGkD30E/2dsb2JhbAANNoM7gyC8JIEXgxMBAQEEAQEBIA8BBRYgChEJAhgCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBDwYBCSYOBQIEAQEBARkEh2EDG5NGmhVxgkCGIw1MiQ+BI4s2gR+BORaCF4ETA5QtXoJ/hE+EBYF9hnCBOGyBBQ Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [192.168.0.50]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA; 02 Apr 2013 10:59:19 +0200 Message-ID: <515A9DE7.3030308@ulb.ac.be> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:59:19 +0200 From: Julien Cigar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130322 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username References: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> <5159BA7B.5000805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:00:29 -0000 You probably missed: 20130317: AFFECTS: users of graphics/poppler AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org The graphics/poppler has been updated to 0.22.2. The shared library version has changed from 18 to 34. Please rebuild all ports that depends on it: # portmaster -r poppler-0 or # portupgrade -fr graphics/poppler or # pkg install -fR graphics/poppler On 04/01/2013 20:39, Jim Ballantine wrote: > OK, I ran just pkg_libchk and the output is: > > # pkg_libchk > xfce4-tumbler-0.1.27_1: > /usr/local/lib/tumbler-1/plugins/tumbler-poppler-thumbnailer.so misses > libpoppler.so.18 > > I'll install it and try again, but it doesn't seem like the cause. > > Jim > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > >> 01.04.2013 19:47, Jim Ballantine пишет: >> >> I believe I'm running it correctly, when I enter >>> pkg_libchk -vr enlightenment >>> >> Nope, just run pkg_libchk without any arguments. I don't think problem is >> in enlightenment or curl, by rather some library that depends on curl and >> is required by enlightenment. >> >> >> -- >> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 09:22:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1F0137 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.t@mail.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [74.208.4.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03602DB for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com ([172.19.198.94]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmxus001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MbPLU-1U6X1i3hi8-00IkgI for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:22:02 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Apr 2013 09:22:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO blazon-pc.rw.local) [78.84.100.61] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us011) with SMTP; 02 Apr 2013 05:22:02 -0400 X-Authenticated: #76218138 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Kt/si4SdKb6W956XKPuKga9RSzC1LZ7JoOz2v6S z1nt6lj3ck2STT Message-ID: <515AA33C.2080304@mail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:22:04 +0300 From: Jeff Tipton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121030 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg search k3b returns nothing References: <515A9863.9090406@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <515A9863.9090406@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:22:06 -0000 On 04/02/2013 11:35, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I've just changed to pkg and thought that I would try out how it works. > > After copying the pkg.conf.sample to pkg.conf and doing > > pkg update > Updating repository catalogue > repo.txz 100% 1836 1.8KB/s 1.8KB/s 00:00 > > I tried the command pkg search k3b and it returned with nothing. > > Is it so that not all ports are available as packages and that's why I > don't get anything? > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" What repo are you using? According to the latest release announcement (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/announce.html), no official repos hold pkgng, it's just a test environment with one package or so. The bad news is that pkg2ng conversion is irreversible:) I just googled and found an unofficial repo announced here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-February/072037.html Or you can try to set up one yourself as explained here: http://www.sysadmin-fr.org/fr/node/667 But I haven't tested how this works. 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[98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o64sm1557695yhd.16.2013.04.02.02.19.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515AA28D.5080903@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 04:19:09 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' References: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:25:39 -0000 On 4/1/2013 10:02 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > [[ Mostly, this posting is just a story. But it does include one > question, towards the end. See below. ]] > > Well, I accidentally found what I believe is most likely the reason > for the system halts I have been having recently, so I just thought > that I would share that. It _is_ a bit humorous. (The mystery system > shutdowns have _not_ been due to a power issue, it would appear.) > > I just now experienced another episode in which the machine powered > itself off, as I was working on it, for no apparently good reason. > > Since it was down anyway, I decided that this would be a good time to > pull out that *&^%$#@ bleedin' new USB 3.0 PCIe card I had recently > installed... just in case that was causing the problem. > > As I reached in to begin extracting the PCIe card, the tip of one of > my fingers accidentally brushed up against my CPU heatsink. I in- > stinctively yanked it away immediately. If I had not done so, I > would probably have gotten a third degree burn. > > I left the system off for a couple of minutes after that... to let it > cool down a bit before doing anything else... and then I powered it > back on, checked that the CPU fan was indeed turning (it was) and then > I went immediately to the BIOS and the PC Heath Status. > > The CPU temperature was listed as being 63c == 145f !!! And this was > _after_ I had allowed the system to be powered down for a couple of > minutes to cool down!!! > > So anyway, the fan turned and I watched the CPU temp slowly inch down > to something more normal... like in the vicinity of 24c. > > I don't know what to make of this, except to suspect that some loose > wires inside my case got in the way of the CPU fan turning. (I am > not neat like some folks. The inside of myu case _is_ really rather > sloppy, so this could easly have happened.) > > I've now installed mbmon and xmbmon and will be watching the CPU temp > closely for awhile. > > I really wish that one or the other of those tools allowed setting a > threshold CPU temp, beyond which the tool would emit an ear piercing > alarm via the motherboard speaker... you know.. in case the regular > external stereo speakers are turned off. > > > What *is* the best way to achieve the above effect, i.e. to arrange > for the machine to scream for help in case it is getting too hot? > > I don't want it to just die, like it is doing now. I want it to scream > so that I can rush over and at least try to do an orderly shutdown. > > > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I am loading the system pretty heavily now, and have been for the > last 20+ minutes, and xmbmon is showing me a nice constant 31c for the > CPU temp. So for the moment at least, all is well. > > P.P.S. I have a (relatively) monster sized heatsink in this system, and > it sits atop a quite modest 2.7GHz single-core Athlon, so it is not at > all surprising that the ``stable'' CPU temp is around 30c (86f). Use stress in ports. I recently had to fix two computers at work(and I'm not IT) due to overheating. One had the fan start to go bad. The automatic thermal control would turn the fan on and off for silence. Sometimes it wouldn't kick back on when under load. I changed the bios to always on, and it worked. Another had the thermal paste so dry, it insulated the processor. Both were pentium 4's. We don't get the good computers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 09:30:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D775B9 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from server6.mbg.se (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:de6b::1006]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B0536F for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org ([195.216.53.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by server6.mbg.se (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r329UUQW099084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:30:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Message-ID: <515AA531.6080307@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:30:25 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130309 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Tipton Subject: Re: pkg search k3b returns nothing References: <515A9863.9090406@eskk.nu> <515AA33C.2080304@mail.com> In-Reply-To: <515AA33C.2080304@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.7 required=7.0 tests=RDNS_NONE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on server6.mbg.se Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:30:47 -0000 2013-04-02 11:22, Jeff Tipton skrev: > On 04/02/2013 11:35, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> I've just changed to pkg and thought that I would try out how it works. >> >> After copying the pkg.conf.sample to pkg.conf and doing >> >> pkg update >> Updating repository catalogue >> repo.txz 100% 1836 1.8KB/s 1.8KB/s 00:00 >> >> I tried the command pkg search k3b and it returned with nothing. >> >> Is it so that not all ports are available as packages and that's why I >> don't get anything? >> >> Thanks >> >> /Leslie >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What repo are you using? According to the latest release announcement > (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/announce.html), no official repos > hold pkgng, it's just a test environment with one package or so. The bad > news is that pkg2ng conversion is irreversible:) I just googled and > found an unofficial repo announced here: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-February/072037.html > > Or you can try to set up one yourself as explained here: > http://www.sysadmin-fr.org/fr/node/667 > > But I haven't tested how this works. > > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" My /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf lists PACKAGESITE : http://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest But thank you anyway. I suspected something like this so I'll just carry on installing as I use to. Hopefully there will be packages available eventually. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 10:08:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1E89CB for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6A7756 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r32A8Mxa082401; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:08:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <515AAE16.9030707@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:08:22 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130309 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' References: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:08:31 -0000 On 04/02/13 04:02, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: [Overheating CPU war story snipped.] > I don't know what to make of this, except to suspect that some loose > wires inside my case got in the way of the CPU fan turning. (I am > not neat like some folks. The inside of myu case _is_ really rather > sloppy, so this could easly have happened.) I've had a fan jam that way. Cable ties are your friends. > I've now installed mbmon and xmbmon and will be watching the CPU temp > closely for awhile. > > I really wish that one or the other of those tools allowed setting a > threshold CPU temp, beyond which the tool would emit an ear piercing > alarm via the motherboard speaker... you know.. in case the regular > external stereo speakers are turned off. > > > What *is* the best way to achieve the above effect, i.e. to arrange > for the machine to scream for help in case it is getting too hot? > > I don't want it to just die, like it is doing now. I want it to scream > so that I can rush over and at least try to do an orderly shutdown. > > > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I am loading the system pretty heavily now, and have been for the > last 20+ minutes, and xmbmon is showing me a nice constant 31c for the > CPU temp. So for the moment at least, all is well. > > P.P.S. I have a (relatively) monster sized heatsink in this system, and > it sits atop a quite modest 2.7GHz single-core Athlon, so it is not at > all surprising that the ``stable'' CPU temp is around 30c (86f). I tend to use Intel processors so I'm not familiar with your exact processor, but does the amdtemp kernel module work for it? If so, you could write a shell script that loops doing "sysctl -n dev.cpu..temperature" for suitable values of and do whatever you like when/if the temperature goes above a threshold. "man speaker" and looking at /usr/sbin/spkrtest might be useful, just remember you'll probably have to "kldload speaker" first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 10:32:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381C2259 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9D868 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:32:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFABOyWlFR8YSX/2dsb2JhbABDgzu/Q4ECF3SCHwEBBVYiARALGAkWDwkDAgECASceBg0BBwEBBRGHfgixGJARjyoHg0ADj0WBKZcIgw06 Received: from 151.132-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.241.132.151]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 02 Apr 2013 12:31:14 +0200 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r32AVDA1003252; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:31:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Message-ID: <515AB371.4070607@coosemans.org> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:31:13 +0200 From: Tijl Coosemans User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130315 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: pkg search k3b returns nothing References: <515A9863.9090406@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <515A9863.9090406@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2OHWTPRXSSHMKKWSKEOCM" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:32:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2OHWTPRXSSHMKKWSKEOCM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013-04-02 10:35, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I've just changed to pkg and thought that I would try out how it > works. >=20 > After copying the pkg.conf.sample to pkg.conf and doing >=20 > pkg update > Updating repository catalogue > repo.txz 100% 1836 1.8KB/s 1.8KB/s 00:00= >=20 > I tried the command pkg search k3b and it returned with nothing. >=20 > Is it so that not all ports are available as packages and that's why > I don't get anything? 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Yes. Can you show your config for ftp/curl? Does it have OPENSSL support? Is openssl installed from ports? -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 11:44:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06184F2B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joar.jegleim@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7CFD0B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z12so335332wgg.35 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 04:44:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aUatLMza9e9097n2LcRe22hJRZX0kmJDeZcexzltlXI=; b=iGFHIVhiDPOoWowVe9PqUPF6lrUknSST0K/G88fQwlpyTjGKRExHNeMAfx8BKQXQrL zKeMLtJtDftxmTOu84ztiW26sCEuVyj1+t+IKPpp22VbTXW24BRPDPHGMvfMFktjzbTP QcBHA0YW/FLfChVW8GldVbxu7ultPigJuy0dFIIvVpEbWZlre3WR4mzhA3vdHE70DInv Y2NHSjHWO+BMBK+EW9RdjOZQVNyCF9ENMRgO3+4WyrIwO9HzPk4CLXAflcS0U++865/w HgrYv6QUt8unUvXbBCuEvDi8YL36K7SPk3226DNcc4Yb8VwMCrw1eKScyUZ3E4P1NmvE sozQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.35 with SMTP id hp3mr9122783wjb.15.1364903047330; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 04:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.34.9 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 04:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:44:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Regarding zfs send / receive From: Joar Jegleim To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:44:09 -0000 Hi FreeBSD ! So I've got this setup where we have a storage server delivering about 2 million jpeg's as a backend for a website ( it's ~1TB of data) The storage server is running zfs and every 15 minutes it does a zfs send to a 'slave', and our proxy will fail over to the slave if the main storage server goes down . I've got this script that initially zfs send's a whole zfs volume, and for every send after that only sends the diff . I've had increasing problems on the 'slave', it seem to grind to a halt for anything between 5-20 seconds after every zfs receive . I've had a couple go's on trying to solve / figure out what's happening without luck, and this 3rd time I've invested even more time on the problem . To sum it up: -Server was initially on 8.2-RELEASE -I've set some sysctl variables such as: # 16GB arc_max ( server got 30GB of ram, but had a couple 'freeze' situations, suspect zfs.arc ate too much memory) vfs.zfs.arc_max=17179869184 # 8.2 default to 30 here, setting it to 5 which is default from 8.3 and onwards vfs.zfs.txg.timeout="5" # Set TXG write limit to a lower threshold. This helps "level out" # the throughput rate (see "zpool iostat"). A value of 256MB works well # for systems with 4 GB of RAM, while 1 GB works well for us w/ 8 GB on # disks which have 64 MB cache. <
> # NOTE: in Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA70CD1 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-x232.google.com (mail-bk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE14F12 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id jg1so180563bkc.9 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 05:25:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JWxW2Oi6Vy3ZELfzMudAGFi7CNtY+2me5nvclXa7BLg=; b=JM9vCm/HyJgoDE4ubKUmU2/Q2rDcx+Sn+EThNpf7ugpZtBcHd/lG4Wp5RvfNX89B/G F4fcqc02CQHco+ObWaJYHqfvoe8P9tpDTrCfBk6rQo/l+eQR3uZv09oAUW/iEg43b4iA rpGlznr54gpijBoRGvedXC32Ca9cjMslY2owtr2dTNxDzVIlEtG78dr2IFpCkaWfcxlQ 80COVkTD/9KlXSKnuwOM3mTy+h+ffFXYL6L1O4hQj2dqzQSXhbwl5sQoUBjXSqA+KsCu IMVvEKSrAnEcneslcH6dvZo84Ply5Krp2n2hW+JC10O1aHXuTwlCWGR1pCxMvx4P76dQ dhTA== X-Received: by 10.205.71.72 with SMTP id yj8mr6694314bkb.103.1364905549426; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 05:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm581658bkt.10.2013.04.02.05.25.48 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Apr 2013 05:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515ACE4B.30802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 15:25:47 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Ballantine Subject: Re: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username References: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> <5159BA7B.5000805@gmail.com> <515AB709.1020204@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:25:50 -0000 2013-04-02 15:12, Jim Ballantine wrote: > the config is the default > lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq curl-7.24.0_2 > qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk > x > lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk > x > x x [ ] CARES Asynchronous DNS resolution > via c-ares x x > x x [x] CA_BUNDLE Install CA bundle for > OpenSSL x x > x x [ ] CURL_DEBUG curl diagnostic > output x x > x x [x] DOCS Build and/or install > documentation x x > x x [x] EXAMPLES Build and/or install > examples x x > x x [x] IPV6 IPv6 protocol > support x x > x x [ ] KERBEROS4 Kerberos 4 > support x x > x x [ ] LDAP LDAP > support x x > x x [ ] LDAPS LDAPS > support x x > x x [ ] LIBIDN Internationalized Domain > Names via libidn x x > x x [x] LIBSSH2 SCP/SFTP support via > libssh2 x x > x x [ ] NTLM NTLM > authentication x x > x x [x] PROXY Proxy > support x x > x x [ ] RTMP RTMP protocol support via > librtmp x x > x x [ ] TRACKMEMORY curl memory diagnostic > output x x > x xqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq SSL protocol > support qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqx x > x x (*) OPENSSL SSL/TLS support via > OpenSSL x x > x x ( ) GNUTLS SSL/TLS support via > GnuTLS x x > x > mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj > x > > tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqu > x < OK > > x > > mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj > > Yes, openssl is installed from ports. Please, don't top post. And remember to add list to the recepients. What does curl-config --libs give you? -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. 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Tue, 02 Apr 2013 05:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.3.131 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:36:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <515ACE4B.30802@gmail.com> References: <5159A616.30701@gmail.com> <5159BA7B.5000805@gmail.com> <515AB709.1020204@gmail.com> <515ACE4B.30802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 08:36:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Enlightenment, libcurl undefined references to SLL_CTX_set_srp_password/username From: Jim Ballantine To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:36:58 -0000 # curl-config --libs -L/usr/local/lib -lcurl -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lssh2 -lssl -lcrypto -lssl -lcrypto -lz -lssh2 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > 2013-04-02 15:12, Jim Ballantine wrote: > >> the config is the default >> lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq**q curl-7.24.0_2 >> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq**qqqk >> x >> lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq**qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq** >> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk >> x >> x x [ ] CARES Asynchronous DNS resolution >> via c-ares x x >> x x [x] CA_BUNDLE Install CA bundle for >> OpenSSL x x >> x x [ ] CURL_DEBUG curl diagnostic >> output x x >> x x [x] DOCS Build and/or install >> documentation x x >> x x [x] EXAMPLES Build and/or install >> examples x x >> x x [x] IPV6 IPv6 protocol >> support x x >> x x [ ] KERBEROS4 Kerberos 4 >> support x x >> x x [ ] LDAP LDAP >> support x x >> x x [ ] LDAPS LDAPS >> support x x >> x x [ ] LIBIDN Internationalized Domain >> Names via libidn x x >> x x [x] LIBSSH2 SCP/SFTP support via >> libssh2 x x >> x x [ ] NTLM NTLM >> authentication x x >> x x [x] PROXY Proxy >> support x x >> x x [ ] RTMP RTMP protocol support via >> librtmp x x >> x x [ ] TRACKMEMORY curl memory diagnostic >> output x x >> x xqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq SSL protocol >> support qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqx x >> x x (*) OPENSSL SSL/TLS support via >> OpenSSL x x >> x x ( ) GNUTLS SSL/TLS support via >> GnuTLS x x >> x >> mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq**qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq** >> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj >> x >> >> tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq**qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq** >> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqu >> x < OK > >> x >> >> mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq**qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq** >> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj >> >> Yes, openssl is installed from ports. >> > > Please, don't top post. And remember to add list to the recepients. > > What does curl-config --libs give you? > > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 12:40:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F5D1F3 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:84c1::deaf:babe]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A947DFAD for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.130.10.194] (cm-84.210.76.250.getinternet.no [84.210.76.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 274582E421; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:40:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Regarding zfs send / receive Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Terje Elde In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:40:09 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Joar Jegleim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:40:19 -0000 On 2. apr. 2013, at 13.44, Joar Jegleim wrote: > So my question(s) to the list would be: > In my setup have I taken the use case for zfs send / receive too far > (?) as in, it's not meant for this kind of syncing and this often, so > there's actually nothing 'wrong'. I'm not sure if you've taken it too far, but I'm not entirely sure if = you're getting any advantage over using rsync or similar for this kind = of thing. First two things that spring to mind: Do you have any legacy stuff on the receiving machine? Things like = physically removed old zpools, that are still in zpool.cache, seems to = slow down various operations, including creation of new stuffs (such as = the snapshots you receive). Also, you don't mention if you're deleting old snapshots on the = receiving end? If you're doing an incremental run every 15 minutes, = that's something like 3000 snapshots pr. month, pr. filesystem. Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 13:18:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF911B1B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3E31EA for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045F7276F0; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r32DIq4m001904; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:18:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:18:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' Message-Id: <20130402151852.1e44a1d7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:18:53 -0000 On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:02:02 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I've now installed mbmon and xmbmon and will be watching the CPU temp > closely for awhile. I have xmbmon running on the lower left of my screen, together with xcpufreq and xload. Just for my information. :-) > I really wish that one or the other of those tools allowed setting a > threshold CPU temp, beyond which the tool would emit an ear piercing > alarm via the motherboard speaker... you know.. in case the regular > external stereo speakers are turned off. > > > What *is* the best way to achieve the above effect, i.e. to arrange > for the machine to scream for help in case it is getting too hot? If I remember correctly, that should be healthd? Additionally, you can probably enable CPUFREQ (if that's the name of the feature I'm refering to) support in the kernel configuration, even though it's mostly directed at mobile use (laptops and such). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 15:22:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E85EF8 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D44A18 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r32FMWvi062542; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:22:32 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:22:32 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Stephen Cook Subject: Re: qjail fork attribution was Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique (fwd) In-Reply-To: <515A65FC.5090706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20130403010816.Q56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20130401200221.T56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <515A65FC.5090706@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Dirk Engling , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 15:22:46 -0000 On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 01:00:44 -0400, Stephen Cook wrote: > On 4/1/2013 5:23 AM, Ian Smith wrote: Actually, I forwarded a message that Joe posted to -jail and -ports. Proper attribution is what this issue's all about. It's been pointed out to me privately that cross-posting is frowned upon in FreeBSD lists and I would usually concur, but this matter started in -questions and I believe that it's an issue of some public importance. So, it was Joe who wrote: > > One does not have to be a lawyer to know the lack of any license verbiage > > embedded in computer programs released to the public becomes property of > > public > > domain forever. Putting license verbiage on your next port version is > > unenforceable because it's already property of public domain. > I don't know enough about the original disagreement to comment on it, but > this part is completely untrue. IANAL but I can use Google and common sense. > > Under the Berne Convention, if there is no notice included with a > copyrightable work, it defaults to "all rights reserved". Until you receive > explicit permission, or a permissive license is included, it is assumed that > you *cannot* legally copy or derive from that work. This certainly appears to be the concensus view. > So, if there is no license at all attached to ezjail, as you say, you are > infringing copyright. Luckily for you, the ezjail web page declares it to be > licensed as Beer Ware after all. Hm, let's look at a Beerware licence. There are 106 of them in /usr/src at 8.2-RELEASE; here's an apropos one from /usr/src/usr.sbin/jail/jail.8 .\" .\" Copyright (c) 2000, 2003 Robert N. M. Watson .\" Copyright (c) 2008 James Gritton .\" All rights reserved. .\" [.. standard two-clause BSD licence and disclaimer, followed by ..] .\" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- .\" "THE BEER-WARE LICENSE" (Revision 42): .\" wrote this file. As long as you retain this notice you .\" can do whatever you want with this stuff. If we meet some day, and you think .\" this stuff is worth it, you can buy me a beer in return. Poul-Henning Kamp .\" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "As long as you retain this notice" is the issue, at least in spirit; that is, as long as qjail's original authorship is properly attributed. As far as I can tell, Dirk is (rightfully) insisting only upon that. > Nothing personal, I just tend to correct people when they make up laws, > especially after a long enough period where I didn't get to criticize > anyone's grammar. :-) Indeed. 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Guilmette" wrote: > I really wish that one or the other of those tools allowed setting a > threshold CPU temp, beyond which the tool would emit an ear piercing > alarm via the motherboard speaker... you know.. in case the regular > external stereo speakers are turned off. > > > What *is* the best way to achieve the above effect, i.e. to arrange > for the machine to scream for help in case it is getting too hot? > > I don't want it to just die, like it is doing now. 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Guilmette" To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' In-Reply-To: <515AAE16.9030707@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:55:20 -0700 Message-ID: <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:55:24 -0000 In message <515AAE16.9030707@qeng-ho.org>, you wrote: >On 04/02/13 04:02, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >[Overheating CPU war story snipped.] >... >I've had a fan jam that way. Cable ties are your friends. Yes. >> P.P.S. I have a (relatively) monster sized heatsink in this system, and >> it sits atop a quite modest 2.7GHz single-core Athlon, so it is not at >> all surprising that the ``stable'' CPU temp is around 30c (86f). > >I tend to use Intel processors so I'm not familiar with your exact >processor, but does the amdtemp kernel module work for it? I dunno. This is the first I have ever heard of that. Is there any specific advantage to using that, relative to using mbmon? >If so, you could write a shell script that loops doing > > "sysctl -n dev.cpu..temperature" Right, but I can do something similar also with mbmon. >..."man speaker"... Humm... I'm looking at that now and it raises more questions that it answers. First order question: Why is it that in FreeBSD there are so many man pages like this one, _purporting_ to describe some low level interface to some sort of hardware, and the man page _doesn't_ include a clear and explicit description of the relevant ioctls ? At least in this case the man page does sort of describe, in just prose, what the relevant ioctls are, but it doesn't actually show the calls explicitly. But look at the man pages for usb(4) or uart(4) or tty(4) or essentially anything you find in /usr/share/man/man4. Maybe I'm just spoiled or something, but I do seem to remember, back in the old old OLD days, that device file man pages always explicitly listed the relevant ioctls. (But then I suppose that that was SystemV I'm thinking of.) Second order question: Why can't I just pipe a .wav file to the /dev/speaker device file and have it play? Wouldn't that make quite a lot of sense? >/usr/sbin/spkrtest might be useful Humm... well... it is at least mildly entertaining. I wonder if whoever write and distributed this realized that he/she could be sued for copyright infringement for about 5 of the simple tunes that are embedded in that thing. Sad but true. :-( Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 20:07:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F65E8B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounceback+www+59981+questions=freebsd.org@app.etouches.com) Received: from mail.app.etouches.com (mail.app.etouches.com [23.23.239.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F596F7 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.app.etouches.com (ip-10-110-249-196.ec2.internal [10.110.249.196]) by mail.app.etouches.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E1BF684D7 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 19:56:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=app.etouches.com; s=default; t=1364932566; bh=r/ude6YNlB6eg3EzWLp2fnmc08ADIjHSTd6hDdW7Wvc=; h=Date:Subject:From:To; b=UaPibt1uwfHgDAoeMyI10bLaDrC8t/UJGd7mXgxSysOPSjsWd0HdH92zHm1VEWJHX Lq0cSNqKdFPXpkdiDU0bEjQu+Pwla9LKCWru4uoAngCqKhulykmd0eZaziyNal8QDv PHGZObm9oPy6q9H3371rRfoVPFQPeqpYmxT0ic+o= Message-ID: <1364932566.515b37d6e1045@etouches.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 15:56:06 -0400 Subject: WCO Knowledge Academy for Customs and Trade 2013 From: WCO - Demos Training Team To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:07:51 -0000 -------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please click here https://www.eiseverywhere.com/emarketing/profile.php?id=g6A1sSfe6NlzONIgZysa63P3x%2BYq3g40y39ymNTyrFs%3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 22:56:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FEFC0 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 22:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A88B1C1 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 22:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38A03DA41; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 23:15:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r32LFMw2002447; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 23:15:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 23:15:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' Message-Id: <20130402231522.71cb7352.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <515AAE16.9030707@qeng-ho.org> <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:56:05 -0000 On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:55:20 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Is there any specific advantage to using that, relative to using mbmon? As far as I understand, it's utilizing a different infrastructure to obtain data. You can see "man amdtemp" in comparison to the reporting mechanisms mbmon uses. > >..."man speaker"... > > Humm... I'm looking at that now and it raises more questions that it answers. It's just an interface to the PC speaker, what question? :-) > First order question: Why is it that in FreeBSD there are so many man > pages like this one, _purporting_ to describe some low level interface > to some sort of hardware, and the man page _doesn't_ include a clear > and explicit description of the relevant ioctls ? Discovering those usually involved using the driver sources. The driver description provided in the manpage doesn't cover everything, but it says: "definitions for the ioctl(2) interface are in ". > Second order question: Why can't I just pipe a .wav file to the > /dev/speaker device file and have it play? Wouldn't that make quite > a lot of sense? No, that does not work. Read the manpage to recognize clearly _what_ kind of input the /dev/speaker device accepts. It does not understand WAV files. However, try this example (cw.sh): #!/bin/sh read -p "CW ===> " TEXT echo ${TEXT} | morse | awk '{ if(length($0) == 0) printf("P4\n"); else { gsub(" dit", "P32L32E", $0); gsub(" di", "P32L32E", $0); gsub(" dah", "P32L8E", $0); printf("%sP16\n", $0); } }' | dd bs=256 of=/dev/speaker > /dev/null 2>&1 This script doesn't require any non-OS components. You can use it as a basis to build a program that will send you system messages in an audible way in morse code... :-) > >/usr/sbin/spkrtest might be useful > > Humm... well... it is at least mildly entertaining. But probably not required, because the simplest test you could construct is something like % echo "c" > /dev/speaker Can you hear a sound? Yes? Good. Speaker works. Don't hear anything? Either your system doesn't have a speaker, or the driver isn't loaded. :-) Hint: Make sure permissions are set properly. own speaker root:operator perm speaker 0660 You can add those to /etc/devfs.conf if you're a member of the "operator" group. > I wonder if whoever write and distributed this realized that he/she could > be sued for copyright infringement for about 5 of the simple tunes that are > embedded in that thing. Sad but true. > :-( Is it really that bad already? "Patent of swinging on a swing or exercising a cat" time? ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 02:11:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58894EF for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838B9CD9 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F73E3AD8F; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 19:10:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' In-Reply-To: <20130402231522.71cb7352.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:10:59 -0700 Message-ID: <25419.1364955059@server1.tristatelogic.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:11:03 -0000 In message <20130402231522.71cb7352.freebsd@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: >> First order question: Why is it that in FreeBSD there are so many man >> pages like this one, _purporting_ to describe some low level interface >> to some sort of hardware, and the man page _doesn't_ include a clear >> and explicit description of the relevant ioctls ? > >Discovering those usually involved using the driver sources. Like I said, that was *not* true back in the old days. Somewhere along the line, somebody decided to get lazy when it came to writing man pages for device files. Here is a good example that is not even that old: http://linux.die.net/man/4/tty_ioctl (Of course, all of this information _should_ be in the tty(4) man page itself... NOT in a separate man page.) Here are two even better examples: http://www.s-gms.ms.edus.si/cgi-bin/man-cgi?uscsi+7I http://www.manpages.info/sunos/fdio.7.html See how the entire ioctl() interface for these device types is completely documented IN THE MAN PAGE? That's the way it should be... None of this rooting around in the sources for something that should have been documented properly, external to the kernel sources. >The driver description provided in the manpage doesn't cover >everything, It doesn't have to cover "everything". But it _should_ completely describe the programatic interface. I mean seriously, imagine if the man page for (for example) sem_init(3) failed to clearly specific the programatic interfece (aka the "C language binding"). You would think that is was ridiculous if everybody who just wanted to write some code to use sem_init was forced to go grunging around in the kernel sources, just to find out the proper way to call this premitice function. >but it says: "definitions for the ioctl(2) >interface are in ". See above. One should not have to look beyond the (properly written) man page just in order to write some client code. But like I said, somewher along the line, a lot of man page writers apparently got lazy... VERY lazy. >> Second order question: Why can't I just pipe a .wav file to the >> /dev/speaker device file and have it play? Wouldn't that make quite >> a lot of sense? > >No, that does not work. Apparently not. Why it doesn't work (or couldn't work) is less clear. >However, try this example (cw.sh): > >#!/bin/sh > >read -p "CW ===> " TEXT >echo ${TEXT} | morse | awk '{ > if(length($0) == 0) > printf("P4\n"); > else { > gsub(" dit", "P32L32E", $0); > gsub(" di", "P32L32E", $0); > gsub(" dah", "P32L8E", $0); > printf("%sP16\n", $0); > } >}' | dd bs=256 of=/dev/speaker > /dev/null 2>&1 Ummm.... % /tmp/beeps.sh CW ===> xxxxx /tmp/beeps.sh: morse: not found >But probably not required, because the simplest test you could >construct is something like > > % echo "c" > /dev/speaker Humm... now _that_ is both interesting and enlightening. Thank you. >Can you hear a sound? Yes. >> I wonder if whoever write and distributed this realized that he/she could >> be sued for copyright infringement for about 5 of the simple tunes that are >> embedded in that thing. Sad but true. >> :-( > >Is it really that bad already? Haven't you noticed? Jeezzze. Go to Google News and search for the word "copyright" and look at how many stories there are in the news JUST TODAY about various copyright lawsuits. There is one about an attorney named "John Steele, Who Has Sued More Than 20,000 People". There is another one about (the artist formerly known as) Prince. There is another one about Angelina Jolie. There is another one about St. Louis University... which is apparently threatening its own faculty with copyright suits. Oh yea, and another one about an ongoing battle between Viacom and YouTube. And another story about textbook rentals in the Sydney Morning Herald. In the future, there will be no more engineers... only lawyers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 03:36:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FE9F9B for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 03:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D519100 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 03:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2013 14:06:43 +1030 Message-ID: <515BA3C9.30203@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:06:41 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' References: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <8363.1364871722@server1.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:36:45 -0000 On 02/04/2013 13:32, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I've now installed mbmon and xmbmon and will be watching the CPU temp > closely for awhile. > > I really wish that one or the other of those tools allowed setting a > threshold CPU temp, beyond which the tool would emit an ear piercing > alarm via the motherboard speaker... you know.. in case the regular > external stereo speakers are turned off. > It's been a while since I used it but conky is pretty customisable. Worst case you have it run your own scripts that returns monitored values and performs whatever steps you want at the thresholds. 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J5LaUQZBwCwrd4FjYogG5HpmH6fyBUVCjEHIUfOI- Received: from [112.134.128.143] by web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:32:57 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SGkgYWxsCgpJJ20gb24gMTkyLjE2OC4xLjYyLCB0aGUgc2VydmVyIHJ1bm5pbmcgb24gMTkyLjE2OC4xLjMgYW5kIGxpc3RlbiB0byBwb3J0IDEyMzQuIEkgd2FudCBhbnkgY29ubmVjdGlvbiBnb2luZyBvdXQgb2YgbXkgbWFjaGluZSB0byBwb3J0IDEyMzQgdG8gcG9ydCBmb3J3YXJkIHRvIDE5Mi4xNjguMS4zOjEyMzQuCgpCdXQgd2hlbiBJIGF0dGVtcHQgdG8gY29ubmVjdCB0byAxOTIuMTY4LjEuMToxMjM0ICwgbmF0ZCBzaG93cyBmb2xsb3dpbmcgdmVyYm9zZSBtZXNzYWdlOgpuYXRkWzIwNTFdOiBBbGkBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.140.532 Message-ID: <1364988777.50574.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 04:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga Subject: ipfw+natd port forward does not work as intended To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Unga List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:32:58 -0000 Hi all=0A=0AI'm on 192.168.1.62, the server running on 192.168.1.3 and list= en to port 1234. I want any connection going out of my machine to port 1234= to port forward to 192.168.1.3:1234.=0A=0ABut when I attempt to connect to= 192.168.1.1:1234 , natd shows following verbose message:=0Anatd[2051]: Ali= asing to 192.168.1.62, mtu 1500 bytes=0AOut {default}[TCP]=A0 [TCP] 192.168= .1.62:45642 -> 192.168.1.1:1234 aliased to=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= [TCP] 192.168.1.62:45642 -> 192.168.1.1:1234=0A=0A=0AThis is FreeBSD 8.1-R= ELEASE and the kernel is built with following options:=0Aoptions=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 IPFIREWALL=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # Enable = ipfw=0Aoptions=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 IPFIREWALL_FORWARD=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 # = Enable ipfw forward=0Aoptions=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 IPDIVERT=0A=0A=0A/etc= /rc.conf=0A--------------=0A=0A# Enable ipfw firewall=0Afirewall_enable=3D"= YES"=0Afirewall_script=3D"/etc/rc.firewall.test"=0A=0A# Natd=0Agateway_enab= le=3D"YES"=0Anatd_enable=3D"YES"=0Anatd_interface=3D"msk0"=0Anatd_flags=3D"= -f /etc/natd.conf"=0Asysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1=0A=0A/etc/rc.firewal= l.test=0A-----------------------=0A=0A#!/bin/sh=0A=0A=0AIFACE=3Dmsk0=0A=0AI= PFW=3D/sbin/ipfw=0A=0A${IPFW} -f flush=0A${IPFW} add 100 divert natd ip fro= m any to any 1234 via ${IFACE} =0A${IPFW} add 60000 permit ip from any to a= ny=0A=0A=0A/etc/natd.conf=0A-----------------=0A=0Aport 8668=0Alog=0Averbos= e=0Ainterface msk0 =0Aredirect_port tcp 192.168.1.3:1234 1234=0A=0A=0AIs th= ere any configuration error above?=0A=0ABest regards=0AUnga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 11:35:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE24187C for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98244833 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r33BZnrN061252; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 12:35:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <515C1415.4030405@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:35:49 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130309 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' References: <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:35:59 -0000 On 04/02/13 20:55, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <515AAE16.9030707@qeng-ho.org>, you wrote: > >> On 04/02/13 04:02, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> [Overheating CPU war story snipped.] >> ... >> I've had a fan jam that way. Cable ties are your friends. > > Yes. > >>> P.P.S. I have a (relatively) monster sized heatsink in this system, and >>> it sits atop a quite modest 2.7GHz single-core Athlon, so it is not at >>> all surprising that the ``stable'' CPU temp is around 30c (86f). >> >> I tend to use Intel processors so I'm not familiar with your exact >> processor, but does the amdtemp kernel module work for it? > > I dunno. This is the first I have ever heard of that. > > Is there any specific advantage to using that, relative to using mbmon? Only that it's in the base system without needing any ports. >> If so, you could write a shell script that loops doing >> >> "sysctl -n dev.cpu..temperature" > > Right, but I can do something similar also with mbmon. > >> ..."man speaker"... > > Humm... I'm looking at that now and it raises more questions that it answers. > > First order question: Why is it that in FreeBSD there are so many man > pages like this one, _purporting_ to describe some low level interface > to some sort of hardware, and the man page _doesn't_ include a clear > and explicit description of the relevant ioctls ? > > At least in this case the man page does sort of describe, in just prose, > what the relevant ioctls are, but it doesn't actually show the calls > explicitly. But look at the man pages for usb(4) or uart(4) or tty(4) > or essentially anything you find in /usr/share/man/man4. Maybe I'm just > spoiled or something, but I do seem to remember, back in the old old OLD > days, that device file man pages always explicitly listed the relevant > ioctls. (But then I suppose that that was SystemV I'm thinking of.) It's worth remembering that in the old**3 days the people programming Unix were doing it as part of their paid employment. These days I suspect many people hacking on FBSD have jobs, families and real lives contending with their open source work. "The job's not done until the documentation is written" is a great principle, but difficult in practice for anyone whose FBSD coding is done in snatched time. > Second order question: Why can't I just pipe a .wav file to the > /dev/speaker device file and have it play? Wouldn't that make quite > a lot of sense? You're thinking of /dev/audio, which is a Sparc sound system workalike that plays IIRC mu-law sound (not .wav, that's got headers mixed up with the data). However, you specifically asked for something that would use the motherboard speaker, whereas /dev/audio sits over the /dev/dsp* stuff, which drives the normal external speaker audio. (man snd for that.) Historically the "type the notes" interface to /dev/speaker goes back a long way. Back in the mid 80s I worked on a Symbolics Lisp Machine that had the same interface. >> /usr/sbin/spkrtest might be useful > > Humm... well... it is at least mildly entertaining. I meant useful to look at for ideas, not use. :-) > I wonder if whoever write and distributed this realized that he/she could > be sued for copyright infringement for about 5 of the simple tunes that are > embedded in that thing. Sad but true. Have you actually tried it? I'm not sure even the music industry's paranoid lawyers would worry about something that sounds that bad, and any half way sane judge would throw it out as "de minimis". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 13:12:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DE25FC for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 13:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7015BF1C for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 13:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E775F3CC3D; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:12:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r33DCHGI001918; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:12:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:12:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' Message-Id: <20130403151217.2144109d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <25419.1364955059@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <20130402231522.71cb7352.freebsd@edvax.de> <25419.1364955059@server1.tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:12:19 -0000 On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:10:59 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > See how the entire ioctl() interface for these device types is completely > documented IN THE MAN PAGE? That's the way it should be... None of this > rooting around in the sources for something that should have been documented > properly, external to the kernel sources. I agree that especially to developers, that sounds logical and very helpful. Seems that manpages do not aim for that goal anymore... > It doesn't have to cover "everything". But it _should_ completely describe > the programatic interface. At least is leaves questions, like stating "use the syscalls in order to...", and the reader is left with the most obvious question: _which_ syscalls? > But like I said, somewher along the line, a lot of man page writers > apparently got lazy... VERY lazy. But keep in mind they're still alive! Judging from the manpages of... *cough* can I say this? YOu know, more prominent open source operating systems for desktops... they're usually much worse _if_ there is a manpage. In most cases, there's none. > >> Second order question: Why can't I just pipe a .wav file to the > >> /dev/speaker device file and have it play? Wouldn't that make quite > >> a lot of sense? > > > >No, that does not work. > > Apparently not. > > Why it doesn't work (or couldn't work) is less clear. The speaker interface to the _PC speaker_ is not a DSP. It's programming is much simpler. The "note language" that it uses on FreeBSD is much more than other interfaces offer. Better ones have stuff like pitch, duration, turn off. Worse ones only can emit ^G (BEL character) and have some terminal driver make a "beep" and nothing more. > >However, try this example (cw.sh): > > > >#!/bin/sh > > > >read -p "CW ===> " TEXT > >echo ${TEXT} | morse | awk '{ > > if(length($0) == 0) > > printf("P4\n"); > > else { > > gsub(" dit", "P32L32E", $0); > > gsub(" di", "P32L32E", $0); > > gsub(" dah", "P32L8E", $0); > > printf("%sP16\n", $0); > > } > >}' | dd bs=256 of=/dev/speaker > /dev/null 2>&1 > > Ummm.... > > % /tmp/beeps.sh > CW ===> xxxxx > /tmp/beeps.sh: morse: not found Seems your OS is installed incompletely? % which morse /usr/games/morse This is on my home 8.2 system. The "morse" program is part of the "games" distribution. Maybe you've decided to leave it out when installing your system? Just in case, you can easily install it from the source tree, cd /usr/src/games/morse/ and make install. > >But probably not required, because the simplest test you could > >construct is something like > > > > % echo "c" > /dev/speaker > > Humm... now _that_ is both interesting and enlightening. I actually remember having used something comparable on BASIC, when my brain wasn't fully developed yet. :-) echo "cdefgab>c" > /dev/speaker It's still a nice interface to "generate attention sounds" in case you want to make an audible alarm or signal for some specific action, like a program which has aborted, an unverified backup or the successful completition of a task. > >Can you hear a sound? > > Yes. This means two things: Your speaker is present and works, and the /dev/speaker mechanism also works. > >> I wonder if whoever write and distributed this realized that he/she could > >> be sued for copyright infringement for about 5 of the simple tunes that are > >> embedded in that thing. Sad but true. > >> :-( > > > >Is it really that bad already? > > Haven't you noticed? I _try_ not to notice it, because in some cases, it's totally insane what's happenning on that front... > In the future, there will be no more engineers... only lawyers. Two lawyers, three opinions. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 13:17:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501F26F3 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 13:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C62F59 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 13:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6137E3CC99; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:17:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r33DHlfX001924; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:17:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:17:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' Message-Id: <20130403151747.729b92b0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <515C1415.4030405@qeng-ho.org> References: <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> <515C1415.4030405@qeng-ho.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:17:41 -0000 On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:35:49 +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: > I'm not sure even the music industry's > paranoid lawyers would worry about something that sounds that bad, and > any half way sane judge would throw it out as "de minimis". They care about the crappy glaring sound of 8 bit, 11 kHz, mono, with low bitrate and ugly "quality" which comes out of almost any smartphone these days. And you don't even need a judge to bully people or scare them into paying money (at least in Germany a lawyer can work "for your" and have you pay money even if you've never met him), de impera et virtutibus loquitur, as the lawman would say. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 15:18:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B658F5A4 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9928B1 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNPRk-00019Q-3I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:17:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:18:02 -0000 If anyone has ideas, zdb -C is now giving me detailed output. zpool status is: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM bsdr UNAVAIL 0 0 0 12606749387939346898 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/ada0p2 zdb -C gives: bsdr: version: 5000 name: 'bsdr' state: 0 txg: 41845 pool_guid: 17852168552651762162 hostid: 2739729201 hostname: '' vdev_children: 1 vdev_tree: type: 'root' id: 0 guid: 17852168552651762162 create_txg: 4 vdev_stats[0]: 348476133 vdev_stats[1]: 4 vdev_stats[2]: 3 vdev_stats[3]: 0 vdev_stats[4]: 0 vdev_stats[5]: 0 vdev_stats[6]: 0 vdev_stats[7]: 0 vdev_stats[8]: 0 vdev_stats[9]: 0 vdev_stats[10]: 0 vdev_stats[11]: 0 vdev_stats[12]: 0 vdev_stats[13]: 0 vdev_stats[14]: 0 vdev_stats[15]: 0 vdev_stats[16]: 0 vdev_stats[17]: 0 vdev_stats[18]: 0 vdev_stats[19]: 0 vdev_stats[20]: 0 vdev_stats[21]: 0 vdev_stats[22]: 0 vdev_stats[23]: 0 vdev_stats[24]: 0 vdev_stats[25]: 0 children[0]: type: 'disk' id: 0 guid: 12606749387939346898 path: '/dev/ada0p2' phys_path: '/dev/ada0p2' whole_disk: 1 metaslab_array: 30 metaslab_shift: 31 ashift: 9 asize: 287855869952 is_log: 0 create_txg: 4 vdev_stats[0]: 348476133 vdev_stats[1]: 4 vdev_stats[2]: 1 vdev_stats[3]: 0 vdev_stats[4]: 0 vdev_stats[5]: 0 vdev_stats[6]: 287767527424 vdev_stats[7]: 18446743785853681664 vdev_stats[8]: 0 vdev_stats[9]: 0 vdev_stats[10]: 0 vdev_stats[11]: 0 vdev_stats[12]: 0 vdev_stats[13]: 0 vdev_stats[14]: 0 vdev_stats[15]: 0 vdev_stats[16]: 0 vdev_stats[17]: 0 vdev_stats[18]: 0 vdev_stats[19]: 0 vdev_stats[20]: 0 vdev_stats[21]: 0 vdev_stats[22]: 0 vdev_stats[23]: 0 vdev_stats[24]: 0 vdev_stats[25]: 0 features_for_read: -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801335.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 15:30:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2B2DAD for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x232.google.com (mail-ea0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14E09D3 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f178.google.com with SMTP id o10so719800eaj.23 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gIblPKLvirLdKj+W2hwNtArAiGsfJCQsquQZMJ4MWdo=; b=jMJhiP3Buj2LgGYzvRSllAJlZbqS2K4APZcB0dhcOaXLAxrSSaSHI1y6hC7ho6gWBz KCp87xQ95jK/s21bNN5UWyhWhcMPzbn8lWrr5r1/pF7hzAYGKwRhpaeGDD1CSQMVKbCy OeGZcIyJOrPiuNIlIsObMmcu7fmhUzLqtTYl4GKkJFW7r6/20QxxkSpXeZq4USdebT2n aO6N2JZ+nSXsrgI0LNDegxgcDlZVFRNpqMBXD8to+SF4LmcxeKio7Q5aoFXWtE5a3E/u czLF1hP9pgpTG82Vg5qORIODrCFgttp3sWR+Y4XtXb5thOsBNE8qPa3WIphKPbsBbaDf /TOA== X-Received: by 10.14.218.71 with SMTP id j47mr4248265eep.28.1365003030108; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m46sm8186037eeo.16.2013.04.03.08.30.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:30:28 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beeblebrox , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:30:32 -0000 2013-04-03 18:17, Beeblebrox wrote: > If anyone has ideas, zdb -C is now giving me detailed output. zpool status > is: You are mostly out of luck. The worst thing about ZFS is that when something happens ZFS just gives you NO. I posted this before, you can try this too: zpool import -D -f -R /bsdr -N -F -n -Z bsdr -D work on deleted pools -f force import -R custom root folder to not interfer with your mounts -N do not mount filesystems -F recovery mode - tries last transactions to find a good one -n doesn't modify data on disk while in recovery mode -Z (undocumented) verify transactions in recovery mode by doing a partial scrub (?). I hope this will help you... Anyway you can try any other ZFS implementation. For example FreeBSD loader can read files too while booting. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 15:50:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3182A8BF for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D58B34 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNPxW-000632-NI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:50:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:50:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:50:47 -0000 Volodymyr, thank you very much for answering. A strange problem is that ZFS thinks the pool is on-line: # zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT bsdr - - - - - FAULTED - So when I try to import, it objects. I can think of 2 things to do: a- export the pool first, then re-import b- Disconnect the original hdd / create pool bsdr on another hdd@s small gpt partition / re-connect the original hdd / somehow force the import or add the original pool to the newly created bsdr pool, and maybe the original data will come back on line?? What would you suggest? Thanks again. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801356.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 15:51:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EDA961 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from mail-da0-x22c.google.com (mail-da0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F92BB49 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z20so721795dae.31 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:51:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-authentication-warning:from:to:subject:references :mail-followup-to:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=WXZHN7T6nPap2D6HvYzAlJt+tvIE9AQkpGh/idL/btQ=; b=czRmLkKCI2sGPj8MgstJFDVtYYpEf2qaNfOMQsTx+H7vL+Xxtz0wGSbhC6eJHG+bNF CGy8//+3nRpbZnX0hGQk2XB20taw6Eu2KMZNjU/YOWV2FqHLfuj1VfCjqBG5A/R/kJqT ePUu7EyVezlmDvop1jeZ/J/y3VigpDpEXQj/d7S9EHm/YKigRO4jeB6TQTwxfkGlybSI mF2NfkLo/Dp8Zy8WknOQxsLDpE6jQlHgo7n4BVEAhRuoCQL1CVOCX9tQlFLEgfjkZVmF QP+zGyLv8xdKObPm4PGakvbs870R2hhn/Z9vpGY0psAJNdAWyXJLK1dmnMM/Co0GI+MB qDSg== X-Received: by 10.68.178.194 with SMTP id da2mr3302376pbc.136.1365004284113; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bonsai.localnet ([207.55.107.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gf1sm6447825pbb.33.2013.04.03.08.51.22 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [192.168.193.34]) by bonsai.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9483D17C for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683CFBFA8 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r33FpLue000721; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' References: <515AAE16.9030707@qeng-ho.org> <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> <20130402231522.71cb7352.freebsd@edvax.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:51:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20130402231522.71cb7352.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Tue, 2 Apr 2013 23:15:22 +0200") Message-ID: <871uarwr2e.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnx/yeWZwkLls8byYVCMSZQracyCvgKd5mCBqhxnLf/nE2K/V4gDPNx7F15E2CBai5Pyx8j X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:51:25 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:55:20 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > No, that does not work. Read the manpage to recognize clearly > _what_ kind of input the /dev/speaker device accepts. It does > not understand WAV files. > > However, try this example (cw.sh): > > #!/bin/sh > > read -p "CW ===> " TEXT > echo ${TEXT} | morse | awk '{ > if(length($0) == 0) > printf("P4\n"); > else { > gsub(" dit", "P32L32E", $0); > gsub(" di", "P32L32E", $0); > gsub(" dah", "P32L8E", $0); > printf("%sP16\n", $0); > } > }' | dd bs=256 of=/dev/speaker > /dev/null 2>&1 > > This script doesn't require any non-OS components. You can use > it as a basis to build a program that will send you system messages > in an audible way in morse code... :-) Have you looked at the morse man page lately, specifically the -p option? :-) Just try 'morse -p sos' to test it. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 17:37:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A0BF8C for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF585239 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5333CCB0; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 19:37:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r33Hb8ap001886; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 19:37:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 19:37:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Carl Johnson Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' Message-Id: <20130403193708.6319574e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <871uarwr2e.fsf@oak.localnet> References: <515AAE16.9030707@qeng-ho.org> <15043.1364932520@server1.tristatelogic.com> <20130402231522.71cb7352.freebsd@edvax.de> <871uarwr2e.fsf@oak.localnet> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:37:04 -0000 On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:51:21 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > Polytropon writes: > > > On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:55:20 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > > No, that does not work. Read the manpage to recognize clearly > > _what_ kind of input the /dev/speaker device accepts. It does > > not understand WAV files. > > > > However, try this example (cw.sh): > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > read -p "CW ===> " TEXT > > echo ${TEXT} | morse | awk '{ > > if(length($0) == 0) > > printf("P4\n"); > > else { > > gsub(" dit", "P32L32E", $0); > > gsub(" di", "P32L32E", $0); > > gsub(" dah", "P32L8E", $0); > > printf("%sP16\n", $0); > > } > > }' | dd bs=256 of=/dev/speaker > /dev/null 2>&1 > > > > This script doesn't require any non-OS components. You can use > > it as a basis to build a program that will send you system messages > > in an audible way in morse code... :-) > > Have you looked at the morse man page lately, specifically the -p > option? :-) Just try 'morse -p sos' to test it. That's actually quite cool, didn't know about that - but the script shown is already old, so _maybe_ I have written it when -p hasn't been introduced yet. And note -p does have a better "space and pausing melody". A nice means to transmit system messages! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 21:16:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD3E519 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from smtp156.ord.emailsrvr.com (smtp156.ord.emailsrvr.com [173.203.6.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BA0F56 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp24.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C23D7198AC8 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:16:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp24.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: gpeel-AT-thenetnow.com) with ESMTPA id 8BA57198AC4 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:16:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Grant Peel" To: Subject: Restaging from scratch Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:16:35 -0400 Message-ID: <00a301ce30b0$85c91bd0$915b5370$@thenetnow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac4wr4BGYowvq8CKT6ieOsjup6npzQ== Content-Language: en-ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 21:16:42 -0000 Hi all, I have now completed creating a new server from scratch using FreeBSD 9.1 and ports. The new setup uses: /, /usr, /var and /home. These filesystems have been dumped to a memory stick (root.dump, var.dump etc). The plan now is to completely zero out the drives on the other servers and use these file systems to build anew. The way I would have done it with pre 9.1 (i.e. 8.x) would have been to boot using a live cd based filesystem, zero out the drive, create the 4 needed filesystems using the graphical fdisk and disklable, mount the memstick and rebuild the filesystems using the dumps. I am at a bit of a loss as to how to do this using gpart. If anyone is willing to explain step by step, how to boot, create the filesystems, and make the disk bootable using 9.1 & gpart etc I would appreciate it! Fyi the disk would be da0 (SCSI 74G ULTRA 320). -G From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 21:38:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E4AB75 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41454122 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hm14so1994873wib.16 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:38:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vAlKQR/DK92f3Pav4X2D91qls6/MO67xZ1JKKjKEric=; b=Nm4ZrEjZwzRx25Bg8QoUyFM3zOAzeDBYVhlJjlSpO4GAgSkYBqegXQZ+VjxBhUkMo+ Syt65G6pj3jM83WP95BsKIQ8M5KxMxczpkyBh4G0ybZXy/boR6+34YSI23uy2kJLAIoE Gi1D9CQShLouU27W0RG9DN8HPVUzabckzD7stTQ2qIEI9wH/wTZOd+Kyjt5WwJq8XexM FbzHhPm2rrqefpZiDscq7ce5U2L/DmB2eBuRPx0ZV08jRQ1iXIvCqIBgzWjwz5DC4EAs VaZNw5294P3vIZvzTBQKkmGBJRlaloKHwWJOZeqFxejwmHjm1s9VFgjcTsr4cDSyAnyB W6/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.5.4 with SMTP id o4mr5311129wjo.40.1365025132348; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.140.20 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:38:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00a301ce30b0$85c91bd0$915b5370$@thenetnow.com> References: <00a301ce30b0$85c91bd0$915b5370$@thenetnow.com> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:38:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Restaging from scratch From: Adam Vande More To: Grant Peel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 21:38:53 -0000 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Grant Peel wrote: > > If anyone is willing to explain step by step, how to boot, create the > filesystems, and make the disk bootable using 9.1 & gpart etc I would > appreciate it! > The easiest way is to boot off of USB memstick image and use the installer to partition and install the OS. Instructions are in the handbook as always. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 23:52:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8449E60A for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 23:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4C48F9 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 23:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D39024DD3; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 01:51:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r33Nq3QS004005; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 01:52:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 01:52:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Grant Peel" Subject: Re: Restaging from scratch Message-Id: <20130404015203.f509f12d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <00a301ce30b0$85c91bd0$915b5370$@thenetnow.com> References: <00a301ce30b0$85c91bd0$915b5370$@thenetnow.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 23:52:04 -0000 On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:16:35 -0400, Grant Peel wrote: > If anyone is willing to explain step by step, how to boot, create the > filesystems, and make the disk bootable using 9.1 & gpart etc I would > appreciate it! Obtain a CD or DVD image, or a USB stick image, and create the media as explained in The FreeBSD Handbook. Booting should not be harder than inserting the media into the appropriate slot of the machine. :-) For initializing disks with gpart I found Warren Block's article very helpful: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html There are also sections covering the topic both in The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ, but this article is a very good "concentrate". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 3 23:56:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8246F5 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 23:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E17B931 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 23:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r33Nue5G027620; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:56:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r33NueTg027617; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:56:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:56:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Restaging from scratch In-Reply-To: <20130404015203.f509f12d.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <00a301ce30b0$85c91bd0$915b5370$@thenetnow.com> <20130404015203.f509f12d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Grant Peel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 23:56:44 -0000 On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:16:35 -0400, Grant Peel wrote: >> If anyone is willing to explain step by step, how to boot, create the >> filesystems, and make the disk bootable using 9.1 & gpart etc I would >> appreciate it! > > Obtain a CD or DVD image, or a USB stick image, and create > the media as explained in The FreeBSD Handbook. Booting > should not be harder than inserting the media into the > appropriate slot of the machine. :-) > > For initializing disks with gpart I found Warren Block's > article very helpful: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > There are also sections covering the topic both in The > FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ, but this article is a > very good "concentrate". Aw shucks; thanks. For a USB bootable FreeBSD, mfsBSD is more capable than the install CD/USB: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 00:15:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DDFA5A for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 00:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hunci@hunci.sk) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAEBA6B for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 00:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c12so2381156ieb.6 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:15:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=UzlHWAH7yU2BOTxO1sd/Idkh+GiR7THrQagHSYiuJOE=; b=LY7pMNcp3JEoPEXV/F18t+LO9BZzmfDOxHKj87U7CE0WX/1nKLFkm+ikLSpH1UFGAy +dRk8OaJO9sKJvEZsOG80UZqDZv2UDJarbgHapNLjfJIt6QOt2olmtm94E1NVHTsisLb 1Fan+XAkZavHUanB2IxRPakUGbu7/+mACq6Ifk4Su+Nrho89SVU3l/736NYgQGVmwsz1 t1qfGucSnBSnAMEtSJjjeW4aVeb2XmmzdvgWOQIZ0m9s/5VVRKCRvlg14H4psIMKVeDm ZbDy79fnMdKN9NfVWi5v9nt7zH0uuAhRqE0546mQ1fZTeYR+1aLKQeDFjJMgqzxPEZkz nzvA== X-Received: by 10.50.17.131 with SMTP id o3mr8476579igd.63.1365034512883; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 17:15:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.155.135 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:14:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [62.197.196.40] From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0ZXIgSHVuxI3DoXI=?= Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 02:14:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: 9.1-release bridge config at startup not working To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQknTfCXn69diq4T14AVtMLqwGeS5QOvso8ocQ5xfKjUPr7X3gQPfeFDQvkAefxApkLCnPZu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 00:15:14 -0000 Hello list After pretty much of googling I was able to make this bridge setup up and running: cloned_interfaces="bridge0" ifconfig_bridge0="addm igb6 addm igb7" ifconfig_bridge0_alias0="inet x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x" ifconfig_igb6="up" ifconfig_igb7="up" however I'm running xorp pim multicast router on the box as well and it complains about not being able to get the primary IP address of bridge0. And I need xorp running on that subnet. (after manually assigning an IP to bridge0, bridge0 becomes unresponsive) I tried autobridge according to some sparse "documentation" found, but autobridge with setup: cloned_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_bridge0="igb6 igb7" ifconfig_bridge0="inet x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x" ifconfig_igb6="up" ifconfig_igb7="up" does not start at all. I end up with having only igb6 added in bridge0 without an IP address. Well, I would gladly live without a bridge ;) if somebody could give me a hit how to protect a group of servers on the same subnet as the router is. Without a need of NAT or IP changes. I need a DMZ, so I thought I'd simply put the boxes behind a filtered bridge. Seems like it's not that easy as it sound. Thank you very much for any kind of help/advice Peter Huncar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 05:08:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE6CB35 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 05:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AE7687 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 05:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNcPO-0002Wy-CP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 22:08:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 22:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365052102377-5801470.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 05:08:23 -0000 I had a second pool on another partition of the same HDD, which was in the same degraded state as the bsdr pool. The data on that pool had been backed-up previously. I decided to try the export & re-import method on that pool (-Z gives message: invalid option 'Z'). Result: # zpool export oldpool # zpool import -D -f -R /mnt -N -F -n oldpool Now the pool just disappears. # zpool list -> does not show oldpool # zpool import -> no pools available to import So the export & re-import method is NOT the way to do this. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801470.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 07:41:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2124858 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 07:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam.gh1986@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com (mail-lb0-f171.google.com [209.85.217.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D56DB6B for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 07:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id v10so2416410lbd.30 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 00:41:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dBBCC+1B7+pUReRPa/jvx3hRWHXGv9wf30NL/2F+i+c=; b=XaewMGyQHl4BA7k+SPtu24oC8y2yLvVRCFUxPvTR0bs5xg5IU0y0NmkGDdp1AnaAOl ngTAsYCzRko8hxQzNckDoEKAy7NH06N1uE3uYaiWDU90+oQyw0H/th9+pp7wg6Ve6oK2 92oytKIUljW7dXuHqA7Hp3JsQNwD8AuHQHj6YLh4EXxG+mAaVjif3Z5LoCuuTjoDMC+R mMxu2VIi0s1lLotG3sy8aHPCU9BJszl4gwQJr8Ww50pRc/FhaFz8bMIDseOmhLVEkRPD Gn10uDv5YCEdCWlBxQ85aX3kCLmoQQYdX5YoiRl+QEAFIi4WiHHuLKh3mgI46kHCo4kl Ubpw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.136.70 with SMTP id py6mr2701325lbb.99.1365061298047; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 00:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.143.201 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 00:41:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:11:37 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: how access inside from outside when nat is done from inside to outside From: s m To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:41:40 -0000 hello guys i am newbie in nat and have some problem with it. i want to nat inside traffic to outside and when i ping outside from inside, every thing is ok and nat is done perfectly. but when i ping inside from outside, request packets are sent without any nat translation while reply packets are nated and therefore outside system can not recognize reply packets and do not accept them. this is example of packets which are received in a outside system when pings an inside system. request packets: src:192.168.2.1----> dst: 192.168.1.1 reply packets: src: 192.168.2.50----> dst:192.168.2.1 is it a correct behavior or not? and if it is correct, it means that when i configure to nat traffic from inside to outside, i can not access from outside to inside systems? (in cisco router packets are exactly as mention above, but outside system identifies reply packets and therefore accepts them). please let me know if i am misunderstanding. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 08:17:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39C1278 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@clari.net.au) Received: from pigeon.clari.net.au (pigeon.clari.net.au [203.29.224.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB46E1C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.102] (c114-76-1-137.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au [114.76.1.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danny@clari.net.au) by pigeon.clari.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43D1BB40C01 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:17:51 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <515D3715.9080206@clari.net.au> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:17:25 +1100 From: Daniel O'Callaghan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: how access inside from outside when nat is done from inside to outside References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:17:59 -0000 On 4/04/2013 6:41 PM, s m wrote: > request packets: src:192.168.2.1----> dst: 192.168.1.1 > reply packets: src: 192.168.2.50----> dst:192.168.2.1 This sort of thing tends to happen when the the packets are not being sent via divert socket properly. Look carefully, step by step, at your ipfw rules which send packets to natd. Also, run natd -v in a separate window instead of running it as a daemon, and it will show you the packets which go through natd, and what is done with them. regards, Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 08:47:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E09AEF for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f52.google.com (mail-ee0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ACDF37 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f52.google.com with SMTP id d17so877569eek.25 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2WFVCs/8FIic7kwmao/VUxEmzp8aSwkvKrIWOBNVra0=; b=n8aMJa9iR2va1SNK27QBuhV7FYJnw++YC9RvyQJX7G3mR/WzUwG/FzhlHhT28Wgp9l vj+wB1viJnIrQcc3mqdAZZ5Ip6T2LcHDkXwaYnk5r18EDtvF4KgRKqzIhzFiJUrxs/1G 26odItPMtlnbmJZMmHEeeOTF0h19x9BJOuKoCOxVMFabTGALPlV1D2lrE+KABDGsYKxm Sm0EbsWK/HVt1Z/fQo4W/VihPbZYA5jcqWFVQ5cUMNpOfiQCIs6H3UUFUlk77nCrSW/5 63oavSYYYfYK2dOwBsbBqnZh+o5bjVhSLvW4SJQAXObl205VyV/iqQPIODcECAHMM9Y8 eYfw== X-Received: by 10.14.173.67 with SMTP id u43mr9271773eel.22.1365065221121; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n2sm10342562eeo.10.2013.04.04.01.46.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 01:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515D3E02.2090408@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:46:58 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 9.1 panics on a daily basis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:47:02 -0000 Hi all. I have one machine with problems. I changed memory, motherboard, interface card with no luck. Yesterday it panics twice. Apr 3 12:16:50 kohrah kernel: interrupt total Apr 3 12:16:50 kohrah kernel: irq1: atkbd0 534 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq18: ehci0 uhci5+ 324 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq19: uhci2 uhci4 28 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq23: ehci1 uhci3 440 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu0:timer 34856866 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq256: mpt0 43020270 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu1:timer 31869627 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu14:timer 29801107 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu15:timer 30408045 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu4:timer 30991098 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu9:timer 30327632 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu5:timer 31701233 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu13:timer 30256850 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu6:timer 41117749 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu8:timer 29618508 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu7:timer 30929776 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu10:timer 29777448 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu2:timer 31031445 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu3:timer 31696197 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu11:timer 30242224 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: cpu12:timer 29757770 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq257: igb0:que 0 7307099 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq258: igb0:que 1 7062641 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq259: igb0:que 2 7051219 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq260: igb0:que 3 8521491 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq261: igb0:que 4 6945489 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq262: igb0:que 5 7006342 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq263: igb0:que 6 7005444 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq264: igb0:que 7 6983277 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq265: igb0:link 6 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq266: igb1:que 0 79225 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq267: igb1:que 1 79225 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq268: igb1:que 2 79225 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq269: igb1:que 3 79225 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq270: igb1:que 4 79225 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq271: igb1:que 5 79224 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq272: igb1:que 6 79225 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq273: igb1:que 7 79225 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: irq274: igb1:link 1 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: Total 605922398 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #0 0xffffffff803944f0 at kdb_backtrace+0x60 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #1 0xffffffff8031821b at watchdog_fire+0x8b Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #2 0xffffffff80318526 at hardclock_cnt+0x2e6 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #3 0xffffffff80596079 at handleevents+0x129 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #4 0xffffffff80596c00 at timercb+0x2a0 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #5 0xffffffff805c3bac at lapic_handle_timer+0x9c Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #6 0xffffffff8056aaec at Xtimerint+0x8c Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #7 0xffffffff80eb5ef7 at kcs_wait_for_obf+0x87 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #8 0xffffffff80eb6455 at kcs_read_byte+0x45 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #9 0xffffffff80eb5fab at kcs_loop+0x7b Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #10 0xffffffff803355f5 at fork_exit+0x75 Apr 3 12:16:52 kohrah kernel: #11 0xffffffff8056a4ce at fork_trampoline+0xe Apr 3 18:30:54 kohrah kernel: interrupt total Apr 3 18:30:54 kohrah kernel: irq18: ehci0 uhci5+ 324 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq19: uhci2 uhci4 26 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq23: ehci1 uhci3 440 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu0:timer 6820267 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq256: mpt0 4610726 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu1:timer 5915601 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu9:timer 5549735 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu6:timer 6674702 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu15:timer 5569165 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu7:timer 5798112 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu11:timer 5550018 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu3:timer 5800384 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu13:timer 5535097 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu2:timer 5745211 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu4:timer 5713761 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu5:timer 5836413 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu10:timer 5427768 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu8:timer 5400325 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu14:timer 5446672 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: cpu12:timer 5483609 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq257: igb0:que 0 1856897 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq258: igb0:que 1 1745475 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq259: igb0:que 2 2404371 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq260: igb0:que 3 1754115 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq261: igb0:que 4 1742811 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq262: igb0:que 5 1764207 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq263: igb0:que 6 1739760 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq264: igb0:que 7 1758804 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq265: igb0:link 2 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq266: igb1:que 0 22252 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq267: igb1:que 1 22251 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq268: igb1:que 2 22251 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq269: igb1:que 3 22252 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq270: igb1:que 4 22252 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq271: igb1:que 5 22252 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq272: igb1:que 6 22252 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq273: igb1:que 7 22252 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: irq274: igb1:link 1 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: Total 111823181 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #0 0xffffffff803944f0 at kdb_backtrace+0x60 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #1 0xffffffff8031821b at watchdog_fire+0x8b Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #2 0xffffffff80318526 at hardclock_cnt+0x2e6 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #3 0xffffffff80596079 at handleevents+0x129 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #4 0xffffffff80596c00 at timercb+0x2a0 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #5 0xffffffff805c3bac at lapic_handle_timer+0x9c Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #6 0xffffffff8056aaec at Xtimerint+0x8c Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #7 0xffffffff8032bb70 at sys_kevent+0x130 Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #8 0xffffffff8057ff1b at amd64_syscall+0x29b Apr 3 18:30:56 kohrah kernel: #9 0xffffffff8056a27b at Xfast_syscall+0xfb Have anyone faced something similar? It doesn't dump core for me and I'm trying to fix this. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 12:32:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9465A4 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952E1C1A for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79053BC2 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:32:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= content-type:to:subject:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id; s=mesmtp; bh=5RzPlGq SRWHBNmE3YqKSBtc0Wpo=; b=lQtxkutMieGeEWZUxtBDSsb8/7Xx9dmX3L/RKla mbLVMLdkJO0CJe8SYdOiCVugo0g6JOl0FdK97q//qEL8p9H/fYM6p2yHzsPMbhKd BRIcJV5GHwskgIMa8FnKGlOS8WyiEmPQ/R7fWvk2Goms2Q7N7kNRklQ8yQ9hw08i DHPs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:subject:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id; s=smtpout; bh=5RzPlG qSRWHBNmE3YqKSBtc0Wpo=; b=VN+DUpakPwFdvXtv3Lbo/PKAB2cRPa5MBnyAt4 Wp0YhsAbzZ+0S9DyPdMEbaDcfRV6lTGPpHsskzH+iRKmp5X+0IKMjLVTs4nFFVhX /pblLLSNDgkQ0iWMediAlN+W+QvWaLfuPUqzTkxmxLKWALopTxWx2WhJkkhpdcya r6BHg= X-Sasl-enc: dp30k0UMnk/aokCD9WQDWcqotgXnMv+bFz2yBnxgpfZD 1365078751 Received: from tech304.office.supranet.net (unknown [66.170.8.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0E5BFC80008 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: posix sh problem Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:32:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:32:33 -0000 Hi all, Hopefully someone here is much more clever than I am. I've run out of ideas on how to cleanly convert this chunk of ksh to posix sh. This is from a BB/Hobbit/Xymon monitoring script for ZFS. I'd really like to have this working cleanly on FreeBSD without requiring any funky shells or using any temporary files. The following is supposed to be able to loop through the output of multiple zpools reading one line at a time and each line item is set as a variable: /sbin/zpool list -H | while read name size used avail cap dedup health altroot do # do interesting things here done Unfortunately you can't pipe through read in posix sh. You also can't use process substitution: while read var1 var1 < <(/sbin/zpool list -H) Any ideas are greatly appreciated. I know there's a python-based script floating on github but I cant guarantee every server will have python on it... Source of script is here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Other_Docs/HOWTO#Hobbit_Client_and_ZFS_monitoring From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 12:47:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13435D32 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD029E49 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11524 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2013 12:47:09 -0000 Received: from 173.48.104.62 (HELO ?10.2.2.1?) (173.48.104.62) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2013 12:47:09 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 173.48.104.62 Message-ID: <515D764D.1040604@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:47:09 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:47:13 -0000 >I'd really like to > have this working cleanly on FreeBSD without requiring any funky shells Define "funky shell". Does it have to be straight up plain sh? Can it use csh or tcsh syntax? Does bash count as 'funky'? > or using any temporary files. Do you mean "manually created temp files"? because some of the different ways of doing process substitution and redirection will automatically create temp files for you in the background and fail on an unwritable filesystem. ______________________________________ it has a certain smooth-brained appeal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 12:51:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D6EE1D for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC71E7E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE2F52B; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:51:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to; s= mesmtp; bh=RkwTsVouxH+YwcvmhT1k+W67PvY=; b=Mo8+ms7K65ZlpJdwyZ+fY vMkEoQiNTuVHb95xKSWAMWtmvURZRQmBsTPEmkSawOH/rKV3nG8bQTyjGEofcGqy TyGKigKxHJFl4HuQXRoZqb08QzPTszGA6pt+Wmgg0sscSDywYqPk/iIBWZGCncRb bRY7lWX5F64McA0SpaNtUQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:cc:subject:references :date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=RkwTsVouxH+YwcvmhT1k+W67PvY=; b=saDu vJH1D7Tcf+3xuqWInTb7/z1nvLY1brKTdaHmUiYLqk8sA8+DJ2Nyo4wURCUEU2Vb MSN1H91MudNFRuwpa2rkdN9jJprWXfO3vMGWqA/vF74exqFgzqm14oCiFyw43JYw iUpni+o0kwWcpiAnTryXo58PeZNl6/k/oOnACZQ= X-Sasl-enc: 0XbB7vPgwknlZvwxQyUAihnbayxo/KGHyF6u07FA64r9 1365079879 Received: from tech304.office.supranet.net (unknown [66.170.8.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B2A50200048; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Quartz Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem References: <515D764D.1040604@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:51:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <515D764D.1040604@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:51:21 -0000 On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:47:09 -0500, Quartz wrote: >> I'd really like to >> have this working cleanly on FreeBSD without requiring any funky shells > > Define "funky shell". Does it have to be straight up plain sh? Can it > use csh or tcsh syntax? Does bash count as 'funky'? > Any shells not in the FreeBSD base system, basically. I don't want this script to stop working because someone somehow broke bash or zsh and nobody noticed because nobody ever uses it. > >> or using any temporary files. > > Do you mean "manually created temp files"? because some of the different > ways of doing process substitution and redirection will automatically > create temp files for you in the background and fail on an unwritable > filesystem. > Yes, I mean manually created temp files. It looks pretty ugly to > /tmp/foo and read from it a line later :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 12:55:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BB3F12 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 894A4EB8 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32344 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2013 12:55:42 -0000 Received: from 173.48.104.62 (HELO ?10.2.2.1?) (173.48.104.62) by relay03.pair.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2013 12:55:42 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 173.48.104.62 Message-ID: <515D784E.4070401@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:55:42 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem References: <515D764D.1040604@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <515D764D.1040604@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:55:50 -0000 >fail on an unwritable > filesystem. ...By which I mean you can't create new files because your disk is completely full or you're booting from a ramdisk that's messed up, etc. ______________________________________ it has a certain smooth-brained appeal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 13:26:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6279F8AF for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 13:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035EFDB for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 13:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com ([10.1.101.216]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MDSip-1UOVFx0otZ-00Gs6k for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:25:56 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Apr 2013 13:25:56 -0000 Received: from 194.219.141.124.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [194.219.141.124] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu016) with SMTP; 04 Apr 2013 15:25:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Af3xPk6mAC3oWEOvCnBZD4RyYCV2g/43o/QydD1 gZhTlLipD8JHiT Message-ID: <515D7F60.7000109@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:25:52 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130404-0, 04/04/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 13:26:00 -0000 On 4/4/2013 3:32 μμ, Mark Felder wrote: > Hi all, > > Hopefully someone here is much more clever than I am. I've run out of > ideas on how to cleanly convert this chunk of ksh to posix sh. This is > from a BB/Hobbit/Xymon monitoring script for ZFS. I'd really like to > have this working cleanly on FreeBSD without requiring any funky shells > or using any temporary files. > > The following is supposed to be able to loop through the output of > multiple zpools reading one line at a time and each line item is set as > a variable: > > > /sbin/zpool list -H | while read name size used avail cap dedup health > altroot > do > # do interesting things here > done > > Unfortunately you can't pipe through read in posix sh. I am not sure about posix compliance but I haven't seen a bourne-like shell not supporting the "prog | while read a b c ..." syntax. FreeBSD's /bin/sh supports this. Did you mean something else, did I misunderstand your question? Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 13:54:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CBE782 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 13:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065B32D8 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 13:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r34DsWKY011537 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:54:36 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT05.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.16]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:54:32 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Topic: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Index: AQHOMTCBUnKVZwodmkSvNRb8MTRBZJjGaUsA Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 13:54:30 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.121] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-04_06:2013-04-04,2013-04-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 13:54:39 -0000 On Apr 4, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Hopefully someone here is much more clever than I am. I've run out of ide= as on how to cleanly convert this chunk of ksh to posix sh. /me takes the challenge (and shame on some of the current responses; this i= s trivial in sh and there's actually nothing wrong with the OPs code -- it = works) > This is from a BB/Hobbit/Xymon monitoring script for ZFS. I'd really like= to have this working cleanly on FreeBSD without requiring any funky shells= or using any temporary files. >=20 Cool! After I help you fix whatever the issue is, I'd be interested in this= a little more. ZFS monitoring would be nice. > The following is supposed to be able to loop through the output of multip= le zpools reading one line at a time and each line item is set as a variabl= e: >=20 >=20 > /sbin/zpool list -H | while read name size used avail cap dedup health al= troot > do > # do interesting things here > done >=20 > Unfortunately you can't pipe through read in posix sh. Wait, you can't? Then I've been doing something wrong all these years=85 #!/bin/sh printf "line1\nline2\n" | while read line do echo "line=3D[$line]" done =3D=3D=3D dteske@scribe9.vicor.com ~ $ sh bar line=3D[line1] line=3D[line2] =3D=3D=3D Just a side note, on my "zpool list -H" on my 8.1-R system doesn't provide = the "dedup" column, so your mileage may vary (you may have to adjust the sc= ript to account for that on systems like mine). Aside from that, I took your script as-is, copy/paste and it worked fine on= 8.1-RELEASE-p6: dteske@oos0a.lbxrich.vicor.com ~ $ cat bar #!/bin/sh /sbin/zpool list -H | while read name size used avail cap dedup health altr= oot do echo $name done dteske@oos0a.lbxrich.vicor.com ~ $ sh bar NEC1-RAID6-ARRAY1 NEC1-RAID6-ARRAY2 NEC1-RAID6-ARRAY3 > You also can't use process substitution: while read var1 var1 < <(/sbin/z= pool list -H) >=20 I'll admit that one's unsupported. > Any ideas are greatly appreciated. I know there's a python-based script f= loating on github but I cant guarantee every server will have python on it= =85 >=20 Stick to /bin/sh if you can (like you say, portability and potability in us= ing base utilities). > Source of script is here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_= with_Xymon/Other_Docs/HOWTO#Hobbit_Client_and_ZFS_monitoring The only things I saw that needed changing to go from ksh to /bin/sh were: if [ =85 =3D=3D =85 ]; then Needs to be if [ =85 =3D =85 ]; then And optionally, a style nit would be to convert back-tick pairs into nestab= le $(=85) syntax. For example, change: cap=3D`=85` to instead: cap=3D$(=85) Oh and of course, the HTML should go away since you're making a command-lin= e tool and not a BB/Hobbit/Xymon module. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 14:42:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B315ED3; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC56751; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4585718D8; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:42:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to; s= mesmtp; bh=OZ1yLFbwwkpB6nMh0/MCg31hL1g=; b=lMXKnk09bqTwjSK7QuTx2 9zQWTt/6D3gYSOmmOB/N/eDoCohL+XDrU5irNMejx+T/Vj4kIFEdIDnXLp8Na5ZF VDjdTqa8GcbGPAzM+CI8TaGnagnRj0k/jstTfiC/Xk72jhDHubmI8fcOomuBzjTd XcasUMIEZBjb8EgHBdP45A= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:cc:subject:references :date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=OZ1yLFbwwkpB6nMh0/MCg31hL1g=; b=TN++ CxYarNfpvHxIN/zOl6/8BAP0VZNFFVd80KeVWmxgnaeoKqcyIg/SwKSMDuIzj2Dg JCrISLlMLilQO4fXSfdLJdVttSBg5klZ0TYiq9cfhbqSu6vWDECLD6gfGCc/jkbt reGsXNJ15vSOlJLgqfqDPokoYCWOTyazdRh4blQ= X-Sasl-enc: m+ufMBGgclcXgw7BGM6pIeQwcyjalo66gNIvDxY+GseC 1365086575 Received: from tech304.office.supranet.net (unknown [66.170.8.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 86BC920009E; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Teske, Devin" , "Devin Teske" Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:42:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (FreeBSD) Cc: "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:42:57 -0000 On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:54:30 -0500, Teske, Devin = wrote: > Wait, you can't? Then I've been doing something wrong all these years=E2= =80=A6 > #!/bin/sh > printf "line1\nline2\n" | while read line > do > echo "line=3D[$line]" > done You sort-of can, but it's not portable at all. As detailed here: = http://www.etalabs.net/sh_tricks.html >> One common pitfall is trying to read output piped from commands, such= = >> as: >> foo | IFS=3D read var >>POSIX allows any or all commands in a pipeline to be run in subshells,= = >> and which command (if any) runs in the main shell varies greatly betw= een = >> implementations =E2=80=94 in particular Bash and ksh differ here. The= standard = >> idiom for overcoming this problem is to use a here document: >> >> IFS=3D read var << EOF >> $(foo) >> EOF I was having problems with the variables magically becoming empty, = remembered I had Rich's site bookmarked, checked to see if it mentioned = = and it was. I'll admit there's a high chance that due to lack of sleep = user error was the culprit. 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To: Beeblebrox In-Reply-To: <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: help help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:52:54 -0000 ---- Original Message ---- From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, April 3, 2013 10:50:55 AM Subject: Re: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? Volodymyr, thank you very much for answering. A strange problem is that ZFS thinks the pool is on-line: # zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT bsdr - - - - - FAULTED - So when I try to import, it objects. I can think of 2 things to do: a- export the pool first, then re-import b- Disconnect the original hdd / create pool bsdr on another hdd@s small gpt partition / re-connect the original hdd / somehow force the import or add the original pool to the newly created bsdr pool, and maybe the original data will come back on line?? What would you suggest? Thanks again. What does "gpart show" return? Are all the pool members there and working? My guess is that one member is missing or a mbr is bad. I have used the zfs import function with good results. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801356.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 15:04:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AEF6FB; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C8F8BA; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r34F4MII006865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:04:50 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT05.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.16]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:04:42 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Topic: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Index: AQHOMTCBUnKVZwodmkSvNRb8MTRBZJjGaUsAgAANh4CAAAYVgA== Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:04:41 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2627@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.121] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <15621CB228B5A944A5152B30CB5C15F1@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-04_06:2013-04-04,2013-04-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:04:56 -0000 On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:54:30 -0500, Teske, Devin wrote: >=20 >> Wait, you can't? Then I've been doing something wrong all these years=85 >> #!/bin/sh >> printf "line1\nline2\n" | while read line >> do >> echo "line=3D[$line]" >> done >=20 > You sort-of can, but it's not portable at all. As detailed here: http://w= ww.etalabs.net/sh_tricks.html >=20 >>> One common pitfall is trying to read output piped from commands, such a= s: >>> foo | IFS=3D read var >>> POSIX allows any or all commands in a pipeline to be run in subshells, And for most purposes that's fine. Read-on=85 >>> and which command (if any) runs in the main shell varies greatly betwee= nimplementations =85 that is only if you truly need the variables to be read into the main s= hell. This is most always not what you want. The page you linked about doesn't talk about the special case of "while", i= n example: foo | IFS=3D while read var On the back-end nothing changes (the same caveat applies -- variables set o= n the right side of the pipe may not be available to the main shell; as-per= the quoted text). However, the high-level task changes from: I want to read some text from a pipe into some variables to instead: I want to read some text from a pipe and process it word-by-word (in your = case) and act on the words in a loop So in other words=85 the only reason for wanting the variables in the main = shell is if you want to act on the last set of variables for the last line = after the loop has run (and presumably already processed the last line). Th= is is what I am saying anyone will rarely ever want. In other words, once t= he loop (potentially running in a sub-shell) has completed, you likely don'= t care about the variable contents and are willing to throw them away anyho= w. >>> =97 in particular Bash and ksh differ here. The standardidiom for overc= oming this problem is to use a here document: >>>=20 >>> IFS=3D read var << EOF >>> $(foo) >>> EOF >=20 But you're not processing a single line; you're processing the entire input= at-once and performing an action (writing to the screen) that also doesn't= care whether it's in a sub-shell or not. SO=85 I say rock-on with the original syntax. It's portable. You don't need those= vars when the loop ends. >=20 > I was having problems with the variables magically becoming empty, rememb= ered I had Rich's site bookmarked, checked to see if it mentioned and it wa= s. I'll admit there's a high chance that due to lack of sleep user error wa= s the culprit. I'm interested in why you need the variables after the loop has completed. = Put your code in the loop where the variables are defined and have values. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 15:11:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649E4824; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34148901; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r34FAwoR007322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:10:58 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT03.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.31]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:10:58 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Topic: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Index: AQHOMTCBUnKVZwodmkSvNRb8MTRBZJjGaUsAgAANh4CAAAYVgIAAAcGA Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:10:57 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2689@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2627@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2627@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.121] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <7B82C67C5BEE1A469A14C47B1B327185@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-04_06:2013-04-04,2013-04-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:11:01 -0000 Oh, and just to cover all bases=85 If you suspect you have sub-shells in the loop, use "export" to export the = vars so that the sub-shells get the vars in the loop. --=20 Devin On Apr 4, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >=20 > On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Mark Felder wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:54:30 -0500, Teske, Devin wrote: >>=20 >>> Wait, you can't? Then I've been doing something wrong all these years=85 >>> #!/bin/sh >>> printf "line1\nline2\n" | while read line >>> do >>> echo "line=3D[$line]" >>> done >>=20 >> You sort-of can, but it's not portable at all. As detailed here: http://= www.etalabs.net/sh_tricks.html >>=20 >>>> One common pitfall is trying to read output piped from commands, such = as: >>>> foo | IFS=3D read var >>>> POSIX allows any or all commands in a pipeline to be run in subshells, >=20 > And for most purposes that's fine. Read-on=85 >=20 >=20 >>>> and which command (if any) runs in the main shell varies greatly betwe= enimplementations >=20 > =85 that is only if you truly need the variables to be read into the main= shell. This is most always not what you want. >=20 > The page you linked about doesn't talk about the special case of "while",= in example: >=20 > foo | IFS=3D while read var >=20 > On the back-end nothing changes (the same caveat applies -- variables set= on the right side of the pipe may not be available to the main shell; as-p= er the quoted text). However, the high-level task changes from: >=20 > I want to read some text from a pipe into some variables >=20 > to instead: >=20 > I want to read some text from a pipe and process it word-by-word (in you= r case) and act on the words in a loop >=20 > So in other words=85 the only reason for wanting the variables in the mai= n shell is if you want to act on the last set of variables for the last lin= e after the loop has run (and presumably already processed the last line). = This is what I am saying anyone will rarely ever want. In other words, once= the loop (potentially running in a sub-shell) has completed, you likely do= n't care about the variable contents and are willing to throw them away any= how. >=20 >=20 >=20 >>>> =97 in particular Bash and ksh differ here. The standardidiom for over= coming this problem is to use a here document: >>>>=20 >>>> IFS=3D read var << EOF >>>> $(foo) >>>> EOF >>=20 >=20 > But you're not processing a single line; you're processing the entire inp= ut at-once and performing an action (writing to the screen) that also doesn= 't care whether it's in a sub-shell or not. >=20 > SO=85 >=20 > I say rock-on with the original syntax. It's portable. You don't need tho= se vars when the loop ends. >=20 >>=20 >> I was having problems with the variables magically becoming empty, remem= bered I had Rich's site bookmarked, checked to see if it mentioned and it w= as. I'll admit there's a high chance that due to lack of sleep user error w= as the culprit. >=20 > I'm interested in why you need the variables after the loop has completed= . Put your code in the loop where the variables are defined and have values. > --=20 > Devin >=20 > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confident= ial. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message = and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any = manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be awa= re that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and rev= iew by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 15:11:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CD48BF; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F32290F; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3C119EE; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:11:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= content-type:to:subject:references:date:cc:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to; s= mesmtp; bh=N0gpQw2JCYgHA7ZDBvodmUGxGBA=; b=B5X2Q2ju2dN0Aa+YePFX5 IRJ3Pk6x45MTPFXT0R8hkiyGL+2oBANDjFMlDKfDYdJWbRpXecc6l6BZmUg1rXoN vm6GLWy1Nc6phGNHLcUJP1Tq3FYQupbUPBf5WhP7ZZqTQ62rwbF/IU05HNUAfG7D /wznV1pLAu34I2em5BeRoQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:subject:references:date :cc:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=N0gpQw2JCYgHA7ZDBvodmUGxGBA=; b=DuX6 WHl3lvSFKi9Y6Syjt5PDIgc7XHxQZE8oZdjalA/TDh+R/1ujJ86ESoudBq/ODtvF ASHQdr1jNoozlUHDP1pzlfLtPosFJZxRWhkVqIrzxYulTIy+0UCqjlaFl9JKLW7d Qxi8XZVX9DHxdOD8trINAG6dKewkuGAaGy6PoPA= X-Sasl-enc: aP7ALc4/WXeVCUmHWCz9ifI/iH3z76Y6daBFhSsjiCBR 1365088295 Received: from tech304.office.supranet.net (unknown [66.170.8.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C8562200048; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Teske, Devin" , "Devin Teske" Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:11:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (FreeBSD) Cc: "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:11:39 -0000 Sorry, my email client did something weird with collapsing and I didn't = = see you mention that it appeared to be working for you. On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:54:30 -0500, Teske, Devin = wrote: > The only things I saw that needed changing to go from ksh to /bin/sh = > were: > if [ =E2=80=A6 =3D=3D =E2=80=A6 ]; then > Needs to be > if [ =E2=80=A6 =3D =E2=80=A6 ]; then > And optionally, a style nit would be to convert back-tick pairs into = > nestable $(=E2=80=A6) syntax. For example, change: > cap=3D`=E2=80=A6` > to instead: > cap=3D$(=E2=80=A6) > Oh and of course, the HTML should go away since you're making a = > command-line tool and not a BB/Hobbit/Xymon module. I actually will be using this with Xymon at work. I did fix the =3D=3D a= nd = style nit when I went over this script I'm still having a problem. When = I = started debugging this last night $STRING led me to believe the pipe int= o = read wasn't working right. At the bottom of the script I added echo in = front of the "$BB $BBDISP...." line. My output is this: # sh zfs_xymon.sh status .zfs green Thu Apr 4 09:59:36 CDT 2013 zfs - health: okay - = capacity: okay
Zpool= = NameStatusCapacity


all pools= = are healthy Where are the other parts of the table showing each zpool? Those are jus= t = the headers. If you sh -x you'll see it flow like this: + read name size used avail cap depup health altroot + STRING=3D'
Zpool = NameStatusCapacity


' + /sbin/zpool status -xv It's like everything between do ... done never happened? If you put echo= = in front of line 60 you DO get output: # sh zfs_xymon.sh STRING=3D = status .zfs green Thu Apr 4 10:07:30 CDT 2013 zfs - health: okay - = capacity: okay
Zpool = NameStatusCapacity
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Zpool= = NameStatusCapacity


all pools= = are healthy But as you can see, everything in that do ... done is disappearing. = According to Rich's Posix sh tricks site it explains that the things to = = the right of that pipe are completed in a subprocess. The updates it mak= es = to STRING never make it out so it can be used in the rest of the script.= Do you see what I mean now? :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 15:49:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C243D8E3 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (mail-la0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B003B6C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id er20so2645680lab.18 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:49:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ovVQ+rIWDN2nhRDu8uXriHVPAkONm1s1Ot1kUYnldM=; b=oxc0CfylumxRjA3I2YkJyQu2HxlKsXBwTC2hyuX0USJgguqKgd+JNyp+x63dmWyylF 4t5o8DDN3+e/qWmM2tCcO7ODObpaAJPUXakD3g2HdmU9wcynzv3h9pPs6Q9YE4WPzD8D QEnLztWd3vJyJvVeh+vuD3LjpoYLofYfL7GcryWE70t8kPnaWXwKuJ9aZK52AYTI8MWS Dc/3kfOq81BGXUQDZgMbiUEVvF5kmMPL08Pkw0F611OoBf9pa1UonMNciE6Ina/F+OkG Cx2MQP/QXYr3GNU1TLpwYGEz/rZQQ0RE5cM+i5fAvftxovV7B8b9Y+vfOZpIUUas6sCK i/zQ== X-Received: by 10.112.9.10 with SMTP id v10mr3891395lba.47.1365090568049; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7sm173512lbj.13.2013.04.04.08.49.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515DA106.7040101@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:49:26 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beeblebrox , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365052102377-5801470.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365052102377-5801470.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:49:29 -0000 04.04.2013 08:08, Beeblebrox пишет: > I had a second pool on another partition of the same HDD, which was in the > same degraded state as the bsdr pool. The data on that pool had been > backed-up previously. I decided to try the export & re-import method on that > pool (-Z gives message: invalid option 'Z'). Result: Sorry, that was -X aka extreme_rewind. > # zpool export oldpool > # zpool import -D -f -R /mnt -N -F -n oldpool > Now the pool just disappears. > # zpool list -> does not show oldpool > # zpool import -> no pools available to import > > So the export & re-import method is NOT the way to do this. Option -D was intended only for deleted pools, not exported ones. Try `zpool list -D` or `zpool import -D`. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 15:50:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B21C995 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7115EBE1 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmQo-0005IT-V5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:50:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:50:37 -0000 Hi Mark. >>What does "gpart show" return? => 34 625142381 ada0 GPT (298G) 34 62914560 1 freebsd-zfs (30G) 62914594 562227821 2 freebsd-zfs (268G) >>Are all the pool members there and working? Yes - ada0p2 is the ONLY pool member. >>My guess is that one member is missing or a mbr is bad. After 'zpool destroy', I also deleted the partition before realising my mistake, I tried to recover the partition table with testdisk, but this was not successful. Next I created a new GPT table and the 2 partitions at the original size as I recalled them - so ada0p1 and ada0p2 have been re-created. I just realized a problem: gpart show -r => 62914594 562227821 2 516e7cba-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b (268G) The guid (?) that ZFS is looking for is most likely wrong. I need to find the ID that ZFS is looking for and change the ID of ada0p2 to that number - am I correct? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801568.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 16:03:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59364D5 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38EED4F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id x11so2890836lbi.1 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:03:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gqDi1Bdm3umj1Tu8nIw0zOn1Vmzftwse6G6pmTc6Kgc=; b=Db6SN/lOt8Hs0Sf3Uh3+TE0CQlHY5hw5YIHVBSv0AGu2bVCvG1eXsQaHjiCEHDQ8Lv lJU8mgKn2XsGailefuQKM6QJbBKMkUfqG/vdKwMkKhvQSPYrNtXU9OA+6eRfs2pCdefI Z6YOOuSR1KfkRNfvQ3v2EuXPFfHGVbu3VvEXk3Zmif9z1Y6KVpzfa8nCdlrPd+SeQOGC x8rgpNaywFlcpipO3wxno3fCoOaK/JrFelO5/wQ65GKT/SBs+7Kj2rNtaekfPBTQ1ztw 242d4OMwpvfS62Pgy/gkApkAJaRwqbg9N7qW6W3U7NJQloL4S8vM5ndWqXwFBNDj8RQp Jokg== X-Received: by 10.112.129.2 with SMTP id ns2mr3894572lbb.53.1365091416959; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c7sm4170481lbe.6.2013.04.04.09.03.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515DA457.4000409@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:03:35 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beeblebrox , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:03:44 -0000 2013-04-04 18:50, Beeblebrox wrote: > Hi Mark. > >>> What does "gpart show" return? > => 34 625142381 ada0 GPT (298G) > 34 62914560 1 freebsd-zfs (30G) > 62914594 562227821 2 freebsd-zfs (268G) > >>> Are all the pool members there and working? > Yes - ada0p2 is the ONLY pool member. > >>> My guess is that one member is missing or a mbr is bad. > After 'zpool destroy', I also deleted the partition before realising my > mistake, I tried to recover the partition table with testdisk, but this was > not successful. Next I created a new GPT table and the 2 partitions at the > original size as I recalled them - so ada0p1 and ada0p2 have been > re-created. > > I just realized a problem: gpart show -r => > 62914594 562227821 2 516e7cba-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b (268G) > The guid (?) that ZFS is looking for is most likely wrong. I need to find > the ID that ZFS is looking for and change the ID of ada0p2 to that number - > am I correct? ZFS operates on metadata. If ZFS can clearly see one side of the partition it would see it all, you can try reconstruct partitions taking in account data obtained from zdb. And again - when you obtained correct zdb data ZFS was available. Maybe or maybe the slice was too small... Oh hey, you uzed `zdb -C`, testing what local machine knows about the pool. When recreating partitions test them with `zdb -l device`. When the output would be correct - you guessed your slice! -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 16:10:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1F23B4 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67C1DC2 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmk9-0002YY-3m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:10:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 09:10:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:10:30 -0000 Thanks Volodymyr. The pools do not show up as deleted. # zpool list (the pool that had disappeared has returned) NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT asp - - - - - FAULTED - bsdr - - - - - FAULTED - bsds 48.8G 12.9G 35.8G 26% 1.25x ONLINE - # zpool import no pools available to import # zpool import -D pool: bsdr id: 12018916494219117471 state: UNAVAIL (DESTROYED) status: One or more devices are missing from the system. action: The pool cannot be imported. Attach the missing devices and try again. config: bsdr UNAVAIL insufficient replicas *17860002997423999070* UNAVAIL cannot open pool: bsdr id: 16018525702691588432 state: UNAVAIL (DESTROYED) status: One or more devices are missing from the system. action: The pool cannot be imported. Attach the missing devices and try again. config: bsdr UNAVAIL insufficient replicas 5853256800575798014 UNAVAIL cannot open # zpool status -v bsdr pool: bsdr state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices could not be opened. There are insufficient replicas for the pool to continue functioning. action: Attach the missing device and online it using 'zpool online'. config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM bsdr UNAVAIL 0 0 0 *12606749387939346898* UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/ada0p2 Form my post #2 you can check that ZDB record has 2 GUIDs: guid: *17852168552651762162* and guid: *12606749387939346898* Thank You. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801581.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 16:16:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BBF53B; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62F4E19; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r34GGC3A018351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:16:12 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.23]) by LTCFISWMSGHT03.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.31]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:16:12 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Topic: OT: posix sh problem Thread-Index: AQHOMTCBUnKVZwodmkSvNRb8MTRBZJjGaUsAgAAVioCAABIMgA== Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:16:11 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF27F3@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.121] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-04_06:2013-04-04,2013-04-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:16:16 -0000 On Apr 4, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > Sorry, my email client did something weird with collapsing and I didn't s= ee you mention that it appeared to be working for you. >=20 > On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:54:30 -0500, Teske, Devin wrote: >=20 >> The only things I saw that needed changing to go from ksh to /bin/sh wer= e: >> if [ =85 =3D=3D =85 ]; then >> Needs to be >> if [ =85 =3D =85 ]; then >> And optionally, a style nit would be to convert back-tick pairs into nes= table $(=85) syntax. For example, change: >> cap=3D`=85` >> to instead: >> cap=3D$(=85) >> Oh and of course, the HTML should go away since you're making a command-= line tool and not a BB/Hobbit/Xymon module. >=20 > I actually will be using this with Xymon at work. I did fix the =3D=3D an= d style nit when I went over this script I'm still having a problem. No worries=85 > When I started debugging this last night $STRING led me to believe the pi= pe into read wasn't working right. At the bottom of the script I added echo= in front of the "$BB $BBDISP...." line. Ok, going back to the original script, I see the error. Yes=85 you're right, you can't modify a string from the rvalue of a pipe; s= imply put. [snip] > Do you see what I mean now? :( Yes, I do. Here's what I suggest (the following works for me -- lists all my pools and= shows healthy): --- bar.orig 2013-04-04 09:05:27.000000000 -0700 +++ bar 2013-04-04 09:14:37.000000000 -0700 @@ -1,4 +1,5 @@ -#!/bin/ksh +#!/bin/sh +BB=3Decho MACHINE=3D$(hostname) # Revision History:=20 # 1. Mike Rowell , original # 2. Uwe Kirbach @@ -22,19 +23,20 @@ STRING=3D"< # mypool 33.8G 84.5K 33.7G 0% ONLINE - # bash-3.00# =20=20 -/usr/sbin/zpool list -H | while read name size used avail cap health altro= ot +STRING=3D"$STRING$( +/sbin/zpool list -H | while read name size used avail cap health altroot do LINE_COLOR=3D"green" =20=20 - if [ "${health}" =3D=3D "ONLINE" ]; then + if [ "${health}" =3D "ONLINE" ]; then HEALTH_COLOR=3D"green" - elif [ "${health}" =3D=3D "DEGRADED" ]; then + elif [ "${health}" =3D "DEGRADED" ]; then HEALTH_COLOR=3D"yellow" - elif [ "${health}" =3D=3D "FAULTED" ]; then + elif [ "${health}" =3D "FAULTED" ]; then HEALTH_COLOR=3D"red" fi=20 =20=20 - cap=3D`echo ${cap} | cut -d% -f1`=20 + cap=3D$(echo ${cap} | cut -d% -f1)=20 if [ ${cap} -lt $DISKYELL ]; then CAP_COLOR=3D"green"=20 elif [ ${cap} -gt $DISKYELL ]; then=20 @@ -43,7 +45,7 @@ do CAP_COLOR=3D"red" fi =20=20 - if [ "$HEALTH_COLOR" =3D=3D "red" -o "$HEALTH_COLOR" =3D=3D "yellow" -o = "$CAP_COLOR" =3D=3D "red" -o "$CAP_COLOR" =3D=3D "yellow" ]; then + if [ "$HEALTH_COLOR" =3D "red" -o "$HEALTH_COLOR" =3D "yellow" -o "$CAP_= COLOR" =3D "red" -o "$CAP_COLOR" =3D "yellow" ]; then DISPCOLOR=3D$COLOR LINE_COLOR=3D$COLOR fi @@ -58,13 +60,14 @@ do yellow) FIRST_LINE_CAP=3D"nearly full" ;; esac =20=20 - STRING=3D"$STRING " + echo "" done +)" =20=20 # What: accumulate the bb message strings. STRING=3D"$STRING
&${LINE_COLOR}${name}${healt= h}${cap}
&${LINE_COLOR}${name}${health}$= {cap}


" -STRING=3D"$STRING`/usr/sbin/zpool status -xv`" +STRING=3D"$STRING$(/sbin/zpool status -xv)" FIRST_LINE=3D"zfs - health: $FIRST_LINE_HEALTH - capacity: $FIRST_LINE_CAP" =20=20 # What: Sent out the final bb message to hobbit server. -$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.$TEST $DISPCOLOR `date` $FIRST_LINE $STRING" +$BB $BBDISP "status $MACHINE.$TEST $DISPCOLOR $(date) $FIRST_LINE $STRING" --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 16:26:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66657876 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FF6EB8 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UNmzP-0005mG-V3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:26:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 09:26:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:26:16 -0000 >>test them with `zdb -l device`. When the output would be correct - you guessed your slice! LABEL 1 -------------------------------------------- version: 28 name: 'bsdr' state: 2 txg: 10 pool_guid: 12018916494219117471 hostid: 2193536600 hostname: 'mfsbsd' top_guid: 17860002997423999070 guid: 17860002997423999070 vdev_children: 1 vdev_tree: type: 'disk' id: 0 guid: 17860002997423999070 path: '/dev/ad6p2' phys_path: '/dev/ad6p2' whole_disk: 1 metaslab_array: 30 metaslab_shift: 31 ashift: 9 asize: 287855869952 is_log: 0 create_txg: 4 Do you mean that in this case 'asize 287855869952' is what I should look at? But 287855869952 /1024 /1024 /2 => 137.260GB is far smaller than I recall the geom part to be... -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801588.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 16:29:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC88964; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62FCEED; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE841A3B; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:29:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to; s= mesmtp; bh=DnRUti0C/dNuPVDPClnYdheJJvo=; b=M0fhGJobmyGId8OvL2ZRx x8mJLJJ1Y25c80EptottuzqvsxowkrMGJY+muYPoIF2DG5xglIHnq4XUS68KeD/T u3B2YNRqYj3vhp2/hOrinwaRdeRDnZ261pahc1w8+YeLqjcz5K7eEHRCEMvxKQ0Y k/phNxl4ut9uNAP0LwD8AA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:cc:subject:references :date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=DnRUti0C/dNuPVDPClnYdheJJvo=; b=DuDQ 80RMejfXEXVfkFf+lSusjOagZ6U1yxGBn+6JgJPTjL1DubG5vTes8kcEWT9jteWh sdMZp8jGblc/sS3t6T8BCXVbHipwehW0bPXUZqkeZG2iHgcVaMUSAm8trwE2J0DX rmsdZUV8cHlYyTqADYEokM+9w7q3dtu+iFq398A= X-Sasl-enc: rp1nVXQ8uLbqgwby7PYZk5xPz8yXEouAO8H7ZH8MbhPX 1365092958 Received: from tech304.office.supranet.net (unknown [66.170.8.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0E560C80007; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Teske, Devin" , "Devin Teske" Subject: Re: OT: posix sh problem References: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF2411@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF27F3@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:29:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EF27F3@ltcfiswmsgmb21> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (FreeBSD) Cc: "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:29:27 -0000 On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:16:11 -0500, Teske, Devin wrote: > Here's what I suggest (the following works for me -- lists all my pools > and shows healthy): Fantastic! I'd have never considered wrapping the entire thing into STRING="$STRING$()". I can't tell you how much I appreciate your assistance with making this functional. Thank you!!!!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 18:23:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610095F9 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B886A6FE for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r34INVrP070793; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 05:23:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 05:23:31 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20130405032525.P56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:23:50 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 461, Issue 6, Message: 1 (sorry about the threading) On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:12:17 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:10:59 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > See how the entire ioctl() interface for these device types is completely > > documented IN THE MAN PAGE? That's the way it should be... None of this > > rooting around in the sources for something that should have been documented > > properly, external to the kernel sources. > > I agree that especially to developers, that sounds logical > and very helpful. Seems that manpages do not aim for that > goal anymore... Well I can't help but feel this is being taken a tad more seriously than speaker(4) deserves - but it was first committed to FreeBSD 1.0 in '93, 19 years and 9 months ago in what is now SVN revision 4 (!), originally written by Eric Raymond in '90 then modified by ache(@) from "386bsd only clean version, all SYSV stuff removed", suggesting more ancient origins. So I'm not sure this doesn't rather predate 'anymore' :) One's referred to the source in /sys/dev/speaker/speaker.h (a few lines) and it's not a long jump to peek at /sys/dev/speaker/spkr.c http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/dev/speaker/spkr.c?annotate=4 This original one is easier to follow at the bare metal level, with direct inb() and outb() to the PIT (i8254) timer #2, functions later moved into clock.c, making one have to refer to all of 4 source files for the 'machine independent' modern version, though I wonder if anyone not on x86/pc98 is/was actually using spkr(4)? With r177648 5 years ago, phk@ said "If somebody cleaned this code up to proper style(9), it could become a great educational starting point for aspiring kernel hackers." 2 months later: "Move speaker a lot closer to style(9)". It was one of the first devices I could follow, at any rate. > > It doesn't have to cover "everything". But it _should_ completely describe > > the programatic interface. > > At least is leaves questions, like stating "use the syscalls > in order to...", and the reader is left with the most obvious > question: _which_ syscalls? Sometimes examples are the best teachers. spkrtest(8) is just a sh script that writes to the device. For more sophisticated use (!) spkr.c is overcommented, if anything, and it's only ~550 well-spaced lines. > > But like I said, somewher along the line, a lot of man page writers > > apparently got lazy... VERY lazy. Mmm, and a few man page readers too? It's really not rocket science .. > But keep in mind they're still alive! Judging from the manpages > of... *cough* can I say this? YOu know, more prominent open > source operating systems for desktops... they're usually much > worse _if_ there is a manpage. In most cases, there's none. True. And I can usually get little more sense out of info(1) than from windows 'troubleshooter' :) > > >> Second order question: Why can't I just pipe a .wav file to the > > >> /dev/speaker device file and have it play? Wouldn't that make quite > > >> a lot of sense? > > > > > >No, that does not work. > > > > Apparently not. > > > > Why it doesn't work (or couldn't work) is less clear. > > The speaker interface to the _PC speaker_ is not a DSP. It's > programming is much simpler. The "note language" that it > uses on FreeBSD is much more than other interfaces offer. > Better ones have stuff like pitch, duration, turn off. Not to mention staccato, legato, dotted notes - sophisticated stuff! [..] > > > % echo "c" > /dev/speaker > > > > Humm... now _that_ is both interesting and enlightening. > > I actually remember having used something comparable on > BASIC, when my brain wasn't fully developed yet. :-) The note language is _from_ BASIC .. do read the source, Luke(s)! > echo "cdefgab>c" > /dev/speaker > > It's still a nice interface to "generate attention sounds" > in case you want to make an audible alarm or signal for > some specific action, like a program which has aborted, > an unverified backup or the successful completition of > a task. Indeed it is. On an old laptop using APM I used to play little tunes as the battery got down to 30, 20, 10%, noiser just before forced suspend, which saved me not a few times. A nice little chirp when fully charged. [..] > > >> I wonder if whoever write and distributed this realized that he/she could > > >> be sued for copyright infringement for about 5 of the simple tunes that are > > >> embedded in that thing. Sad but true. > > >> :-( I hope noone's losing too much sleep, after ~20 uneventful years :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 18:58:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEF1DE1 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [204.107.128.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E1A84C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r34Ivvlb009850 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: State of Packages Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:58:05 -0000 Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored. Index of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/ Name Size Last Modified File:MANIFEST 1 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:base.txz 58452 KB 12/04/12 10:09:00 File:doc.txz 1410 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:games.txz 1092 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:kernel.txz 56686 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:lib32.txz 9516 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:ports.txz 85867 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:src.txz 94190 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 This pretty much invalidates 5.4 of the handbook. My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time on my hands during the download :) _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 20:04:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B272BFD for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA81A99 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41578253FC; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:04:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r34K4Lp5002140; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:04:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:04:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: Recipie for CPU souffle' Message-Id: <20130404220421.2442e9bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130405032525.P56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20130405032525.P56386@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:04:20 -0000 On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 05:23:31 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 461, Issue 6, Message: 1 > (sorry about the threading) > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:12:17 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:10:59 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > It doesn't have to cover "everything". But it _should_ completely describe > > > the programatic interface. > > > > At least is leaves questions, like stating "use the syscalls > > in order to...", and the reader is left with the most obvious > > question: _which_ syscalls? > > Sometimes examples are the best teachers. Somethimes even manpages contain EXAMPLES. :-) > > > But like I said, somewher along the line, a lot of man page writers > > > apparently got lazy... VERY lazy. > > Mmm, and a few man page readers too? It's really not rocket science .. No, it's just reading the letters which form words and sentences, expressing things. But that can already be considered hard work if you're not used to that "intellectual" stuff. :-) > > But keep in mind they're still alive! Judging from the manpages > > of... *cough* can I say this? YOu know, more prominent open > > source operating systems for desktops... they're usually much > > worse _if_ there is a manpage. In most cases, there's none. > > True. And I can usually get little more sense out of info(1) than from > windows 'troubleshooter' :) You can shoot trouble as much as you like. It doesn't work. It always comes back. To eliminate the source, you need to understand the initial problem, then kill it with fire. :-) > > > >> Second order question: Why can't I just pipe a .wav file to the > > > >> /dev/speaker device file and have it play? Wouldn't that make quite > > > >> a lot of sense? > > > > > > > >No, that does not work. > > > > > > Apparently not. > > > > > > Why it doesn't work (or couldn't work) is less clear. > > > > The speaker interface to the _PC speaker_ is not a DSP. It's > > programming is much simpler. The "note language" that it > > uses on FreeBSD is much more than other interfaces offer. > > Better ones have stuff like pitch, duration, turn off. > > Not to mention staccato, legato, dotted notes - sophisticated stuff! Plus interpretation of UTF-8 strings that contain note language, I assume those "characters" are in there... :-) > > > > % echo "c" > /dev/speaker > > > > > > Humm... now _that_ is both interesting and enlightening. > > > > I actually remember having used something comparable on > > BASIC, when my brain wasn't fully developed yet. :-) > > The note language is _from_ BASIC .. do read the source, Luke(s)! That's why I could remember it. I think it was QBasic (on a PC platform, no idea if other platforms also supported it, but I assume more "sophisticated" BASICs could have contained that functionality). > > echo "cdefgab>c" > /dev/speaker > > > > It's still a nice interface to "generate attention sounds" > > in case you want to make an audible alarm or signal for > > some specific action, like a program which has aborted, > > an unverified backup or the successful completition of > > a task. > > Indeed it is. On an old laptop using APM I used to play little tunes as > the battery got down to 30, 20, 10%, noiser just before forced suspend, > which saved me not a few times. A nice little chirp when fully charged. You can still find it in /etc/apmd.conf: echo T250L16B+BA+AG+GF+FED+DC+CC >/dev/speaker echo T250L8CE-GE-C >/dev/speaker Sadly, when APM was working properly, it has been abolished. :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 20:21:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65583DDF for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48119B20 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r34KL8Yh065068 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:21:08 GMT (envelope-from bdrewery@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from bdrewery@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r34KL8vG065067 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:21:08 GMT (envelope-from bdrewery) Received: (qmail 13677 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2013 15:21:06 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.74?) (freebsd@shatow.net@74.94.87.209) by sweb.xzibition.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2013 15:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <515DE0B0.5020905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:21:04 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@safeport.com Subject: Re: State of Packages References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2IPKDIWFDCIXUCBMQJRLM" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:21:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2IPKDIWFDCIXUCBMQJRLM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, doug@safeport.com wrote: > Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored. Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again. They will come back. >=20 > Index of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/ >=20 > Name Size Last Modified > File:MANIFEST 1 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 > File:base.txz 58452 KB 12/04/12 10:09:00 > File:doc.txz 1410 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 > File:games.txz 1092 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 > File:kernel.txz 56686 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 > File:lib32.txz 9516 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 > File:ports.txz 85867 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 > File:src.txz 94190 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 >=20 > This pretty much invalidates 5.4 of the handbook. >=20 > My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images?= > I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time > on my hands during the download :) >=20 > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 > Fax: 301-217-9277 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery bdrewery@freenode/EFNet ------enig2IPKDIWFDCIXUCBMQJRLM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRXeC0AAoJEG54KsA8mwz5WkEP/RbkrJvO3M8j76yCMpQ+4jUb krHXwuQBo1caxVUON4/IRUbZRuOucr36JqpWT+QKLp5OGAsDOFM/1O+BvCpcW5wN 15G+yvfjnuX6mt6YGNoHiM7jmaYYhDZ3E7oiKMb0gOVPdbzaA4OYxZM7qyn5gw9D LQigoLM33GLfuamjelolv1D5E+tZzjTniHaNqGERIVFlOdbKj6ncCC1O3xdqcDab Yjtz2zPsR0nhAWQhQHVemcrqtYYO/O2lC7vgYkHs7+JZOfa4fOuS9mSDUs15+Y54 ke5qDeH/aesG2HppVpM3+KoqDea6oPgWl0Ny9V3RHlRQg4oi0Hd6d8UobcHFlWkW JfMbd2GyrGXV+QrKuX7+VX1QKJzbX7CD3TaNlzCQEfy2lCBokfak7edUhUD8uyFr rJJzrIjZ6q5y2+ppAAfE7rIwtpGt+oRGKBk1qsaUWrylX1sF3Q8Tle9/dSLq7QNZ N5OgfGq6/hCRgi3VDbeJEMhYJtUOZtCOoakvQhsyFHWcc5oHIi93EJV7c9KcszSZ elz6zd5jOXfpCoUIWU3eZDE+4qGVzYkoo5YeCRBb+xTiPAsqvwX9wF6nPxXpzuPg Cq3EV6MTkYUwp1eEvRuLnhLn0Rri4Ud5r+MzqtlsUtfL4d4oMJGpijz1STf6BFBa 6gkUaVkrjNrBAJS1vPfB =xx1U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2IPKDIWFDCIXUCBMQJRLM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 20:42:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96381C0 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [178.250.72.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C7EC23 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.208] (186.211.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.211.186]) by relay.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ACDC72C59B; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:34:26 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: State of Packages From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: <515DE0B0.5020905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:34:28 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8F446809-CBE1-4AD6-8497-66B415890B0C@exonetric.com> References: <515DE0B0.5020905@FreeBSD.org> To: doug@safeport.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:42:32 -0000 On 4 Apr 2013, at 21:21, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored. > > Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again. > They will come back. For those who might be interested in an interim solution, we've set up an unofficial but public pkgng format repository at http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so, PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest These have FreeBSD 8, 9 and 10, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages for the whole ports tree, build failures notwithstanding. You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official ones are available. - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 21:06:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C8E735 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joar.jegleim@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x229.google.com (mail-we0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B49DD7D for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id x43so2412934wey.0 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YB/FUMkEMSPwlE1cCI/k+tX2+fMpjeFMvjuXJNT6UA4=; b=q/WwdLf5abcMrXdHbWkyQHBqzg/l7ujpS7W07JwgZbGYLf+zbYIkZ9rGc60KqXMisI GVDRDV31RMk223ATXiJu4fCuFBUu+NU5PMOC4EfiIeWzM1xmWgkwEFgGuwjGBuwhd2ZK st0V4UkTcsWhB4k7kx4yiue6ZXkPKYROlpXQI9HBeaxDw44Z0KuhF9TCLMDrRNMJEb9n gTNC3Pdmv8PlWm9hgTUtFnp+72dyMPW9zAiKr0PZe5aUC/g00wcbXfaSRg/sJpBj7mrw UUqbv6WHIUGUUY5yO8tPH08dHVJIA+Q43VTtfexziTF8ahiYqhWMW3NMVPYWP3TmiNmR KEtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.35 with SMTP id hp3mr12126211wjb.15.1365109610176; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.34.9 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 23:06:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Regarding zfs send / receive From: Joar Jegleim To: Terje Elde , freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:06:51 -0000 Hi Terje ! sorry for late reply, I've been checking my mail, forgetting that all my mailing list mail are sorted into their own folders skipping inbox :p the zfs sync setup is a huge advantage over rsync simply because incremental rsync of the volume takes ~12 hours, while the zfs differential snapshot's usually take less than a minute . Though it's only ~1TB of data, it's more than 2 million jpegs which rsync have to stat ... I'm guessing my predecessor who chose this setup, over for instance HAST, didn't feel confident enough regarding HAST in production ( I'm looking into that for a future solution) . There's no legacy stuff on the receiving end, old pools are deleted for every sync. I haven't got my script here but google pointed me too https://github.com/hoopty/zfs-sync/blob/master/zfs-sync which look like a script very similar to the one I'm using . In fact, I'm gonna take a closer look at that script and see what differs from my script (apart from it being much prettier :p ) I didn't know about zpool.cache, gonna check that tomorrow, thanks. -- ---------------------- Joar Jegleim Homepage: http://cosmicb.no Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/joarjegleim fb: http://www.facebook.com/joar.jegleim AKA: CosmicB @Freenode ---------------------- On 2 April 2013 14:40, Terje Elde wrote: > On 2. apr. 2013, at 13.44, Joar Jegleim wrote: > > So my question(s) to the list would be: > > In my setup have I taken the use case for zfs send / receive too far > > (?) as in, it's not meant for this kind of syncing and this often, so > > there's actually nothing 'wrong'. > > I'm not sure if you've taken it too far, but I'm not entirely sure if > you're getting any advantage over using rsync or similar for this kind of > thing. > > First two things that spring to mind: > > Do you have any legacy stuff on the receiving machine? Things like > physically removed old zpools, that are still in zpool.cache, seems to slow > down various operations, including creation of new stuffs (such as the > snapshots you receive). > > Also, you don't mention if you're deleting old snapshots on the receiving > end? If you're doing an incremental run every 15 minutes, that's something > like 3000 snapshots pr. month, pr. filesystem. > > Terje > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 4 21:48:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE25630 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bw.mail.lists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-f178.google.com (mail-pd0-f178.google.com [209.85.192.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E6AF1F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id w11so1654242pde.9 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:48:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xAg5mb6HsixQlgvkksAvrsce1tYkZf2YGvJsXxr1tJo=; b=S9yJxYedWi1miwlbQFw2Irs8wk1ssOlpaRZbsPq3EPWCoB7+VklefmcKrT/MPtVhfx nuaokluUXTW0bw3poXG40HRJ+nzVh6M4XU4kBg+HxA1BZQQ2rHIRDcEcFv6UOLTOrC4X xJDG8kYPWqzOlKjNMvDLBma+/wFuMSAyN9QqwIwQZqEo0n34nmtGG8qAkgW+z+brvoCJ sKpBOA2V0L0cldkWxGSxh/L40+clELNjlVzi8PaQ4ojAjIKYbUzvRQwWLdSSpqb5ZF9m 2kJPg239p6i+PycbTM17EZc+dv2dUsCi+IZMiUAvsAc6l7nAdB/r2cnYhD4nilwKfxnb G2uA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.198.5 with SMTP id iy5mr10780468pbc.162.1365112100008; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.75.202 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 23:48:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: NFSv4 questions and possible bugs From: b w To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:48:20 -0000 I set up NFSv4, did some performance tests, setup looks like this: Server rc.conf: nfs_server_enable="YES" nfsv4_server_enable="YES" nfsuserd_enable="YES" exports: /share -mapall=nobody 10.10.14.2 10.10.14.3 V4: / -sec=sys Client(s) fstab mount: srv:/share /mnt nfs nfsv4,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,rw 0 0 Server is in a different vlan than the clients, there's a Juniper SRX between them. As far as I understand this means a NFSv4 only setup. 1. I had to use rsize and wsize mount options, without them performance is horrible, 1 MBps from the same vlan, when in different vlans it would start fast than drop to a standstill, compared to around 100MBps with sizes. Not sure why. 32K is the best I found, 16K and 64K were slightly worse, but I assume this is due to our network setup. 2. Only port 2049 is open in the firewall, as it should be enough for NFSv4, but umount tries to send 3 UDP packets to port 111. This causes it to hang for some time while waiting for the packets to time out and exit with an error. The unmount is executed correctly, but the exit status could cause problems in scripts, see 4. 3. bonnie++ exits uncleanly, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-September/019820.html I guess this is a known bug, but I just wanted to point out that it's still there in up to date 9.1-RELEASE. Since it's been around for a long time, I suppose it's not likely to cause problems in production, is it? 4. After bonnie++'s failure I tried iozone, but iozone wants to unmount before each test and hits #2. Performance is excellent as far as I can see, after setting raise and wsize, transfers hit the network cap, so I guess my main question is if #2 is likely to cause issues down the road. It will have mostly perl scripts reading and moving files around and syslog, "rm -rf" seemed to do the job without problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 00:50:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2353099 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 00:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x230.google.com (mail-ia0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC8C7AA for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 00:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f176.google.com with SMTP id i1so2727459iaa.21 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Exv4MPYB5XyuVyUt1G58nGNWnbDS+IfkrDAJchsdPHA=; b=ZgsjQnln2M2c0uakDMrAT88rihag+abe8d8BOIOovRMOH0SQ5GiLDJP1YkDA8V8LEA kVEEgJQNiri3Hfy3E8mbTIzS/71h4G+La2YWivReOPCYRDiB9hnaQMrYHUAtRJkscajN g5PxGY/Xg5tclP1Mf3v5y8uhDS84QJhqN8ntgMp65p7AHhQsexV1VTVwLWEdkRUeeCkG C2r9mFSOTjlIMF+NgTSCSZbyK4DuAsuooKy0/JPkrkiMJWIHnPJaPe3WD2eHHbypiZhb tiy1+mx8cuBB7dDU+V3wpcFfoKP10jcKpZ1WnULDa72+tFaE7CiLaExUXv31JkZvJSgr cYyA== X-Received: by 10.50.57.5 with SMTP id e5mr267769igq.57.1365123044563; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a3sm435151igq.5.2013.04.04.17.50.41 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515E1FE0.70207@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:50:40 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Debian/kFreeBSD vs linux jail? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:50:45 -0000 Considering Debian's ported the "standard Linux userland" to the FreeBSD kernel, I'm wondering if it's possible/practical to use Debian inside of a jail instead of a Linux CentOS jail, which has been documented. I know some applications are linux specific, but are they really linux specific or gnu specific? I'm going to retry getting a printer driver working with cups that had issues with FreeBSD in the past, but I don't know if it's FreeBSD userland or FreeBSD kernel that caused the quirks. Has anyone tried using Debian's kFreeBSD userland inside a jail? Is it just pointless on a FreeBSD system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 00:52:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BBA15E for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 00:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-x22d.google.com (mail-bk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A127C4 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 00:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id j10so1843429bkw.18 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:52:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nqIKBPq0HngygWLznW+zmq2jQNA+/B6iHk9EklLG6yE=; b=yQHulop3iGOymQj5zZMhjX6itYDOorlK8WxADNylsOsKSmAVqkaQ7wxAK3SOPqBe8M BgTIsTBKxIemQu6Bac3b53QyQVGS8CY8V7xvxEQnXNylziCWbaxEpSA6YcjsK/7mn9VO HJinmKze3q/6PJlX4X6EQ8D/nVeckdNJ1cT2BPTzzdKFUMDMoEIZJGQDKql5C/NhAZTq RCYvvsIZPBGIiLocro4Yy9sD0c3dj9+oHYtEUjOAek8hb0OmsyRhXajdoGkB0f7DgeMe mwlzSL4qNAKXOhJaKKmMm4Aflg+wxTz8NPsiUvchKu0Oebu2AoRq3t/slingERYvrk8M Fsdg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.40.72 with SMTP id tp8mr5930836bkb.31.1365123137011; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.25.207 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.25.207 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:52:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Regarding zfs send / receive From: Waitman Gobble To: Joar Jegleim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Terje Elde , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:52:18 -0000 Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA On Apr 4, 2013 2:07 PM, "Joar Jegleim" wrote: > > Hi Terje ! > sorry for late reply, I've been checking my mail, forgetting that all my > mailing list mail are sorted into their own folders skipping inbox :p > > the zfs sync setup is a huge advantage over rsync simply because > incremental rsync of the volume takes ~12 hours, while the zfs differential > snapshot's usually take less than a minute . Though it's only ~1TB of data, > it's more than 2 million jpegs which rsync have to stat ... > I'm guessing my predecessor who chose this setup, over for instance HAST, > didn't feel confident enough regarding HAST in production ( I'm looking > into that for a future solution) . > > There's no legacy stuff on the receiving end, old pools are deleted for > every sync. I haven't got my script here but google pointed me too > https://github.com/hoopty/zfs-sync/blob/master/zfs-sync which look like a > script very similar to the one I'm using . > In fact, I'm gonna take a closer look at that script and see what differs > from my script (apart from it being much prettier :p ) > I didn't know about zpool.cache, gonna check that tomorrow, thanks. > > > > -- > ---------------------- > Joar > Jegleim > Homepage: http://cosmicb.no > Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/joarjegleim > fb: http://www.facebook.com/joar.jegleim > AKA: CosmicB @Freenode > > ---------------------- > > On 2 April 2013 14:40, Terje Elde wrote: > > > On 2. apr. 2013, at 13.44, Joar Jegleim wrote: > > > So my question(s) to the list would be: > > > In my setup have I taken the use case for zfs send / receive too far > > > (?) as in, it's not meant for this kind of syncing and this often, so > > > there's actually nothing 'wrong'. > > > > I'm not sure if you've taken it too far, but I'm not entirely sure if > > you're getting any advantage over using rsync or similar for this kind of > > thing. > > > > First two things that spring to mind: > > > > Do you have any legacy stuff on the receiving machine? Things like > > physically removed old zpools, that are still in zpool.cache, seems to slow > > down various operations, including creation of new stuffs (such as the > > snapshots you receive). > > > > Also, you don't mention if you're deleting old snapshots on the receiving > > end? If you're doing an incremental run every 15 minutes, that's something > > like 3000 snapshots pr. month, pr. filesystem. > > > > Terje > > > > > hi, i have a similar situation. its better to only rsync new stuff in this case, because you should know when somebody ads something new. for example, a user uploads 200 new images, these are marked 'to sync' and are transferred to the other servers. letting rsync figure out what's new just isnt practical. an idea, works for me. hope it helps. Waitman Gobble San Jose California _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 01:00:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B006748B for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [204.107.128.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BEE81B for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r35108OS023234 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:00:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:00:08 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: State of Packages In-Reply-To: <8F446809-CBE1-4AD6-8497-66B415890B0C@exonetric.com> Message-ID: References: <515DE0B0.5020905@FreeBSD.org> <8F446809-CBE1-4AD6-8497-66B415890B0C@exonetric.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:00:09 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:00:10 -0000 On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Mark Blackman wrote: > On 4 Apr 2013, at 21:21, Bryan Drewery wrote: > >> On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, doug@safeport.com wrote: >>> Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored. >> >> Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again. >> They will come back. > > > For those who might be interested in an interim solution, we've set up > an unofficial but public pkgng format repository at > > http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng > > To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in > /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so, > > PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest > > These have FreeBSD 8, 9 and 10, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages > for the whole ports tree, build failures notwithstanding. > > You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these > builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official > ones are available. Thank you _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 01:07:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37793592 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B358E864 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:07:49 -0700 Message-ID: <515E23E2.1090906@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:07:46 -0400 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: using pax command for archive & restore Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2013 01:07:49.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDC75720:01CE3199] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:07:56 -0000 I archive using the pax command like this pax -wzXt -x cpio -f ${archive_path_file} ${ip_path_file} ${ip_path_dir} and restore pax -rz -pe -f ${archive_path_file} and it restores the contents back to the same location it came from which is what I want. Now I would like to restore that archive file to a different directory. Tried different combinations of flags on the pax command and can't figure out the correct combination. pax -rz -pe -f ${archive_path_file} ${temp_dir} just gives me a syntax error. This has to be simple, but I can't see the trees because the forest is in the way. What am I missing here? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 08:02:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE20B65 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christoph@christoph-egger.org) Received: from vidar.hosts.sieglitzhof.net (vidar.hosts.sieglitzhof.net [IPv6:2a00:f48:1026:0:f1f7:0:fd0b:9023]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2077C for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cl-39.muc-02.de.sixxs.net ([2001:a60:f000:26::2] helo=hel.asgard) by vidar.hosts.sieglitzhof.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UO1bO-0000UV-B8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:02:26 +0000 Received: from [2001:a60:f01c:0:70:1:6:3] (port=22499 helo=localhost) by hel.hosts.sieglitzhof.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UO1bL-000Jzw-Mg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:02:26 +0200 From: Christoph Egger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Privat References: <515E1FE0.70207@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:02:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <515E1FE0.70207@gmail.com> (sfid-20130405_025059_723754_C7980CE8) (Joshua Isom's message of "Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:50:40 -0500") Message-ID: <8738v5jtgw.fsf@mitoraj.siccegge.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/kfreebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:a60:f01c:0:70:1:6:3 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: christoph@christoph-egger.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hel.hosts.sieglitzhof.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Debian/kFreeBSD vs linux jail? X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:59:44 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hel.hosts.sieglitzhof.net) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:02:29 -0000 Hi! Joshua Isom writes: > Considering Debian's ported the "standard Linux userland" to the > FreeBSD kernel, I'm wondering if it's possible/practical to use Debian > inside of a jail instead of a Linux CentOS jail, which has been > documented. I know some applications are linux specific, but are they > really linux specific or gnu specific? I'm going to retry getting a > printer driver working with cups that had issues with FreeBSD in the > past, but I don't know if it's FreeBSD userland or FreeBSD kernel that > caused the quirks. Has anyone tried using Debian's kFreeBSD userland > inside a jail? Is it just pointless on a FreeBSD system? If it is a free software CUPS driver, chances are it is a GNU thing and Debian GNU/kFreeBSD might work for you. For all the proprietary stuff (say flash, acrobat, ..) Debian GNU/kFreeBSD usually is worse of than either GNU/Linux or pure FreeBSD systems (because no comercial vendor ever builds for this platform). Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 08:07:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB914C20 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3013579E for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.246] by nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2013 08:07:06 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.83] by tm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2013 08:07:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2013 08:07:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1365149226; bh=/mhLOsYO98zcC6arygje8KVGMbS4VV9Md/9odd5e8NM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tDWREFeHB61WSSHOTHhK7kkSWM4rC3IOZO4L9Yp+ejU1IB2f4MEoQRhWMw4AMaFcKiqk+DHo7tEZDopoUSXYf6shFRkbbMgo3JFOx29XGqs3/lEVJyH6KC55+h7mW3A9k7tawKGkdu48JTVI/rtVlbvqz7musNGJ/vFe1UARKpM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 214387.3998.bm@smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Jl30UhQVM1l1225swfRz2SYD7W9aPRDVNUROzZGnMvzpPC1 RLi9Ea0DoDs_dMcQ3hMcnG1jNrfwpxKQkkuLaii37Mqtig_5WxLwOweTwrge at30RgHaQ6_iw70UXqIfM4t4CyQrsw0pf2CQPjwXYDxQiDq5ZcfeWMGhyAmx _nkK8sAjP5DoiDCEqMUWc46Lxa4rBOaeaxFXPVhQiAlt_cAhkmDfkASR5AOO GNpc_4MiC1yLoW4izLJO0JSzpbXmjsWy1Vd1v6kO0H8KkCwZzx3aMfwnYp.k keXMWRVsWFgsttEN6sDpgJW4Po76.sFwQaLMrtVuNki8hPbhOQs2Rw2XoXv6 UHa73MhWlQmY0YfLM8CxSW6.f_qiiFwPhVAYTJToX7a4odXaBTeXzJhyHdnp s1Y1yjSTDSPiTyZx8s68hXIR1fm_p69N8ITVM.UOueEHq5k5p9lakd._1S.H YU2EyoK122hU.LWVfIR3E2vs_T75peHXWVOVAUi2F36QWpk6N0kibXgkzvNL UiVfLNzX2CbqWOTCiUGMfZjIwVaMZ41JR X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR X-Rocket-Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@85.219.45.252 with plain) by smtp120.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Apr 2013 08:07:06 +0000 UTC Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:07:06 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Debian/kFreeBSD vs linux jail? Message-Id: <20130405100706.d0c73434a7f8370c33ff9abc@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <515E1FE0.70207@gmail.com> References: <515E1FE0.70207@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:07:09 -0000 On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:50:40 -0500 Joshua Isom wrote: > Considering Debian's ported the "standard Linux userland" to the FreeBSD > kernel, I'm wondering if it's possible/practical to use Debian inside of > a jail instead of a Linux CentOS jail, which has been documented. I > know some applications are linux specific, but are they really linux > specific or gnu specific? I'm going to retry getting a printer driver > working with cups that had issues with FreeBSD in the past, but I don't > know if it's FreeBSD userland or FreeBSD kernel that caused the quirks. > Has anyone tried using Debian's kFreeBSD userland inside a jail? Is > it just pointless on a FreeBSD system? A bit old tutorial (2011) about this topic http://blog.vx.sk/archives/22-Updated-Tutorial-Debian-GNUkFreeBSD-in-a-FreeBSD-jail.html --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 08:31:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498BE373 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45DE886 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:31:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id gw10so3262418lab.27 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:31:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wkOGl8p3+o9FBaoF1ciaUulAuVPUFbDewECWPSOVLsw=; b=rRfX1Uu/XMh9g4QeY6CTiFTJsagpJa2VHBAGExXlOPhIExGkKCfS34r+q8f387Jc1p mqQ3mwdKu4/QDIP1i8LlWNr9kb7lHYG7QIC/xsoabXFDhhcKf/LWYRbqWeE9c5wCGuK5 7hRjxoAKGGRDfPA0Jcf+1qt/LfcYBl6lGdHdxLEWHeZIiCsE4Dvy9QrdmX2oWEvoXvRE VfTxMOHJaHVQyCeKnLHEubCuyX7Mn8y5gV2M/lyYR887ZwSO6oEokXjvxWnF8yOpDppr AYC0SndKA0/vIDuBQuGidTr+RGcENZZIjr1nzz+WhXFJ6J/OUitWAMXOV42Psgq/N4XH KrZg== X-Received: by 10.112.42.37 with SMTP id k5mr4193198lbl.49.1365150689546; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oy10sm5278846lab.8.2013.04.05.01.31.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515E8BDF.9070403@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:31:27 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beeblebrox , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:31:32 -0000 04.04.2013 19:26, Beeblebrox: >>> test them with `zdb -l device`. When the output would be correct - you > guessed your slice! > > LABEL 1 > -------------------------------------------- > version: 28 > name: 'bsdr' > state: 2 > txg: 10 > pool_guid: 12018916494219117471 > hostid: 2193536600 > hostname: 'mfsbsd' > top_guid: 17860002997423999070 > guid: 17860002997423999070 > vdev_children: 1 > vdev_tree: > type: 'disk' > id: 0 > guid: 17860002997423999070 > path: '/dev/ad6p2' > phys_path: '/dev/ad6p2' > whole_disk: 1 > metaslab_array: 30 > metaslab_shift: 31 > ashift: 9 > asize: 287855869952 > is_log: 0 > create_txg: 4 > > Do you mean that in this case 'asize 287855869952' is what I should look at? > But 287855869952 /1024 /1024 /2 => 137.260GB is far smaller than I recall > the geom part to be... I can't has the math. But looking at ashift I can guess your disk should be 287855869952/2**9 == 562218496. Is this one right? Actually if you see all 4 labels correctly you can try to proceed as ZFS would guess the correct disk size anyway. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 08:54:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C019F8 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892BA947 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UO2PR-00015V-3o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:54:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365152049024-5801716.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <515E8BDF.9070403@gmail.com> References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> <515E8BDF.9070403@gmail.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:54:10 -0000 >>Actually if you see all 4 labels correctly you can try to proceed as ZFS would guess the correct disk size anyway. I should clarify: # zdb -l /dev/ada0p2 => all 4 LABELS visible and correct (zpool name: bsdr) # zdb -l /dev/ada0p1 => all 4 LABELS visible and correct (zpool name: asp) # zdb -l /dev/ada0 => only LABEL #2 visible (this is an OLDER zpool with GUID 5853256800575798014, also named bsdr, the pool was whole-disk-as-raw) This is the gpt table + partitions as I re-created them immediately after the gpt delete. It looks like I have re-created the gpt partitions correctly... I don't understand what you mean by "you can try to proceed"? # zpool import -D -f -R /bsdr -N -F -n -X bsdr cannot import 'bsdr': a pool with that name already exists. use the form 'zpool import ' to give it a new name -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801716.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 10:11:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20A3306 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joar.jegleim@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (mail-wg0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1C9CEB for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id x12so3675815wgg.12 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q4UWu0xBWrE1EmgDeQDKI83WkOs+N8zNPkMj5omfQpk=; b=HDZ5Y7shcsT7reOHFzfxJ1fb1FX09Po/CY1xafA3XQlyFa69ursKOa3Vt1qhnJH5DZ NTPaxoQZ0q2YgoUssdY9U2u5zMxLBLdW67ldknDC7rvK3d3xKBp6m14ZRmR9e2S2CphL R4sDA7LYKNfvHar/nwYu9isd7ofKa4awVTe0hKP8+yJHQJrUP5R2AX0yAxiMpzxT/X3L A1UYD8YNlJMwxM3CS81bql6KvJNzI8FQZyULj8Imq7wyDfEL+lB/HoepZ1QsGToNp8ss mrCx/0leu4khLPkBuXUBpQrRubg7OmQ+3g9CgwYsnSFkMGHZjku6hfMtVYrEXfIJnCFs nLvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.97.233 with SMTP id ed9mr2956147wib.32.1365156696926; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.34.9 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 03:11:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:11:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Regarding zfs send / receive From: Joar Jegleim To: Waitman Gobble Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Terje Elde , freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:11:38 -0000 sounds like a good idea, I might look into that, thnx. Terje: zpool.cache is only 860 bytes, I don't think that should cause any problems (?) -- ---------------------- Joar Jegleim Homepage: http://cosmicb.no Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/joarjegleim fb: http://www.facebook.com/joar.jegleim AKA: CosmicB @Freenode ---------------------- On 5 April 2013 02:52, Waitman Gobble wrote: > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > > On Apr 4, 2013 2:07 PM, "Joar Jegleim" wrote: > > > > Hi Terje ! > > sorry for late reply, I've been checking my mail, forgetting that all my > > mailing list mail are sorted into their own folders skipping inbox :p > > > > the zfs sync setup is a huge advantage over rsync simply because > > incremental rsync of the volume takes ~12 hours, while the zfs > differential > > snapshot's usually take less than a minute . Though it's only ~1TB of > data, > > it's more than 2 million jpegs which rsync have to stat ... > > I'm guessing my predecessor who chose this setup, over for instance HAST, > > didn't feel confident enough regarding HAST in production ( I'm looking > > into that for a future solution) . > > > > There's no legacy stuff on the receiving end, old pools are deleted for > > every sync. I haven't got my script here but google pointed me too > > https://github.com/hoopty/zfs-sync/blob/master/zfs-sync which look like > a > > script very similar to the one I'm using . > > In fact, I'm gonna take a closer look at that script and see what differs > > from my script (apart from it being much prettier :p ) > > I didn't know about zpool.cache, gonna check that tomorrow, thanks. > > > > > > > > -- > > ---------------------- > > Joar > > Jegleim > > Homepage: http://cosmicb.no > > Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/joarjegleim > > fb: http://www.facebook.com/joar.jegleim > > AKA: CosmicB @Freenode > > > > ---------------------- > > > > On 2 April 2013 14:40, Terje Elde wrote: > > > > > On 2. apr. 2013, at 13.44, Joar Jegleim wrote: > > > > So my question(s) to the list would be: > > > > In my setup have I taken the use case for zfs send / receive too far > > > > (?) as in, it's not meant for this kind of syncing and this often, so > > > > there's actually nothing 'wrong'. > > > > > > I'm not sure if you've taken it too far, but I'm not entirely sure if > > > you're getting any advantage over using rsync or similar for this kind > of > > > thing. > > > > > > First two things that spring to mind: > > > > > > Do you have any legacy stuff on the receiving machine? Things like > > > physically removed old zpools, that are still in zpool.cache, seems to > slow > > > down various operations, including creation of new stuffs (such as the > > > snapshots you receive). > > > > > > Also, you don't mention if you're deleting old snapshots on the > receiving > > > end? If you're doing an incremental run every 15 minutes, that's > something > > > like 3000 snapshots pr. month, pr. filesystem. > > > > > > Terje > > > > > > > > > > hi, > i have a similar situation. its better to only rsync new stuff in this > case, because you should know when somebody ads something new. > > for example, a user uploads 200 new images, these are marked 'to sync' and > are transferred to the other servers. letting rsync figure out what's new > just isnt practical. > > an idea, works for me. hope it helps. > > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 10:43:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5696C121 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEB9E6B for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id gw10so3276583lab.41 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:43:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LPF4K3AbyMxYcRZeVU4USlGesxYc3SfnUBzSTBlMJgI=; b=S2yizRgXr2P0gRgsXTirLRXftjkARQvEfpMdp73UeaHCUnMbMQaDQF5JOjOhU5GkTq UsXvyUYm3CIvkJbBitSzQNV+w37qWOlFOcY0fpiB1pF4XNV1BTXAmR0k1c9x94epL5Xq jVF9lkkXGtnHLf448TJ+2Mx1ndYla4iJgkczMZxWp/xElZ44oa+w2fyk7Q8YTE2w1Znx 5p/xv56s0+2h7EfXB1imSlkU6r4Okduug+gmqMwgkKLgyWifwu2tqsny8wKLvrZMvhPZ uUKBHhLmDoM5hfDRFi4m+MDcBffmTG9+jyv5Azr8f570bSF73INiZ/Gkpl3QW03joho9 cpFQ== X-Received: by 10.112.137.135 with SMTP id qi7mr5672833lbb.117.1365158593720; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm5274219lbk.2.2013.04.05.03.43.12 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515EAABF.6020300@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:43:11 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beeblebrox , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? References: <1364711810171-5800299.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> <515E8BDF.9070403@gmail.com> <1365152049024-5801716.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365152049024-5801716.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:43:15 -0000 05.04.2013 11:54, Beeblebrox: >>> Actually if you see all 4 labels correctly you can try to proceed as ZFS > would guess the correct disk size anyway. > > I should clarify: # zdb -l /dev/ada0p2 => all 4 LABELS visible and correct > (zpool name: bsdr) > # zdb -l /dev/ada0p1 => all 4 LABELS visible and correct (zpool name: asp) > # zdb -l /dev/ada0 => only LABEL #2 visible (this is an OLDER zpool with > GUID 5853256800575798014, also named bsdr, the pool was whole-disk-as-raw) > This is the gpt table + partitions as I re-created them immediately after > the gpt delete. It looks like I have re-created the gpt partitions > correctly... > > I don't understand what you mean by "you can try to proceed"? > # zpool import -D -f -R /bsdr -N -F -n -X bsdr > cannot import 'bsdr': a pool with that name already exists. use the form > 'zpool import ' to give it a new name Ok, let's check a few things: zpool import zpool import -D From your previous mails I saw that pool bsdr is FAULTED but not deleted. If the system would list bsdr on `zpool import` you should remove -D from the command. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 11:13:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143947B6 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB275F5E for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UO4aE-000724-0Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 04:13:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 04:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365160406005-5801734.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <515EAABF.6020300@gmail.com> References: <1365002276096-5801335.post@n5.nabble.com> <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> <515E8BDF.9070403@gmail.com> <1365152049024-5801716.post@n5.nabble.com> <515EAABF.6020300@gmail.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:13:30 -0000 Thank you for your help Volodymyr, 1. ZPOOL LIST shows that the pool is listed NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT bsdr - - - - - FAULTED - tank0 49.8G 13.3G 36.5G 26% 1.00x ONLINE - 2. ZPOOL IMPORT => no pools available to import 3. zpool import -D -f -R /bsdr -N -F -n -X bsdr => Gives error because of condition (#1) 4. ZPOOL IMPORT -D shows 2 BSDR pools: A) config: bsdr UNAVAIL insufficient replicas 5853256800575798014 UNAVAIL cannot open (THIS IS NOT THE POOL I WANT - THIS ONE IS OLDER POOL, WHOLE-DISK-RAW) B) config: bsdr UNAVAIL insufficient replicas 17860002997423999070 UNAVAIL cannot open (THIS SHOULD BE THE POOL I NEED, BUT LOOK AT PROBLEM IN #5) 5. ZPOOL STATUS -V BSDR shows different guid!! config: bsdr UNAVAIL 0 0 0 12606749387939346898 UNAVAIL 0 0 0 was /dev/ada0p2 (THIS GUID DOES NOT MATCH THE GUID OF 4-B) It is normal in my opinion that the guid should not match, but that is why I cannot import pool 4-B. I must either delete the BSDR POOL that is shown as "on-line", or import 4-B with another name I think. Thanks and Regards. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801734.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 5 22:13:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE52F6C for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 22:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90025FD2 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 22:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOEsY-00080S-Aw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 15:13:02 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 15:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365199982331-5801834.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365160406005-5801734.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <515C4B14.80300@gmail.com> <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> <515E8BDF.9070403@gmail.com> <1365152049024-5801716.post@n5.nabble.com> <515EAABF.6020300@gmail.com> <1365160406005-5801734.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 22:13:03 -0000 I think I might have a better understanding of the situation. 'zpool status' and 'zdb -C' commands both show bsdr properties as: pool_guid: 17852168552651762162 children[0]: \ type: 'disk' \ guid: 12606749387939346898 Whereas 'zpool import -D' and 'zdb -l' commands give the bsdr properties as: pool_guid: 12018916494219117471 vdev_tree: \ type: 'disk \ top_guid: 17860002997423999070 Since the LABEL info on the HDD is the more relevant data, I should be using the output of zdb -l, and disregard the pool that shows itself as "already imported - albeit faulted". I therefore plan to import the bsdr pool with a newname and should run the import command as: zpool import -D -f -R /bsdr -N -F -n -X 12018916494219117471 newname Any objections? We must also keep in mind that '-D' flag is showing TWO deleted bsdr pools, so I must use the unique ID. Please let me know if I should go ahead and run above command. Thanks and Regards. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801834.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 04:42:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093D4A09 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 04:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zaphod@berentweb.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC49A48 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 04:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOKxA-0000eE-Fv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 21:42:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 21:42:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1365223332487-5801851.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1365199982331-5801834.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1365004246715-5801356.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365087055.99393.YahooMailRC@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1365090630957-5801568.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365091829108-5801581.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365092775955-5801588.post@n5.nabble.com> <515E8BDF.9070403@gmail.com> <1365152049024-5801716.post@n5.nabble.com> <515EAABF.6020300@gmail.com> <1365160406005-5801734.post@n5.nabble.com> <1365199982331-5801834.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: [ZFS] recover destroyed zpool - what are the available options? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 04:42:14 -0000 Sadly, the command I ran did nothing - no error message, no output, no result: # zpool import -D -f -R /bsdr -N -F -n -X 12018916494219117471 newname -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ZFS-recover-destroyed-zpool-what-are-the-available-options-tp5800299p5801851.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 19:24:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB682FEE for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3D8D22 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UOYIO-0005yi-Ax for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:57:00 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:57:00 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:57:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: State of Packages Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 19:24:11 -0000 On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400, doug wrote: > My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? > I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time > on my hands during the download :) Prebuilt packages are on the way apparently, but I have made my own repository anyway for the 600-odd packages which I and my users need - thus I compile from ports once only (all are 9.1-RELEASE x86_64). It works well, and is not difficult. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 20:25:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E10A68 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x22b.google.com (mail-ia0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E121EF8 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z13so4123498iaz.2 for ; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A9mFpJVPtQBzWTiaDjm+cbLdJFvyCOYkVgtZy8G+zvY=; b=Qbn194uHrZwTeeI/GEdY54BlfGwHAX0pIGJrDnGbciLeJOwK4Qpq3BpkiAtXbL6JpH k/7HMiprI+kHV7iOihtzVOKOMPneIfswBIXuTPum/p0wDw45mD6oAJ3cSpFt645FYfCK uGyYTj/oyNCvqcjFjJIINeOywoRm/iC86iDuzFrvjA3g+Oy//1nTs0SCiEUqc29QWQYo 0jEWlXpiVfcMB5caRTQQvViDzakER4Lveh8soUDOjFjOrV8GMfTlxpxTW/wVjuhDz/RD IRqXpyxcBPj8JLuRSGKaJkpYgoVPsRxzfHvEPa8TtYyqHWj63vYxZMINIk9CDzTV7nwZ AhyQ== X-Received: by 10.50.135.105 with SMTP id pr9mr2886033igb.6.1365279947866; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xd4sm8990911igb.3.2013.04.06.13.25.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <516084C6.5070504@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:25:42 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: State of Packages References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:25:48 -0000 On 4/5/2013 7:51 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400, doug wrote: > >> My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? >> I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time >> on my hands during the download :) > > Prebuilt packages are on the way apparently, but I have made my own > repository anyway for the 600-odd packages which I and my users need - > thus I compile from ports once only (all are 9.1-RELEASE x86_64). > > It works well, and is not difficult. > I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the first cd-r I used. The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it hasn't been done yet. It's been almost five months. I used the repository, but I'm working on my own now that I have plenty of ram to do it. In the time since then, every FreeBSD machine could have updated from source the base and all packages. The ports tree is still updated, the source tree is still updated, so both should be presumed to be safe. Recently the FreeBSD website had some downtime from using -CURRENT, and apache hasn't been taken offline for five months, and aren't those two things all you really need to distribute ports? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 21:02:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806941C2 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCE0103 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOaFz-0000Q5-0k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:02:39 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UOaFy-000F54-Ie for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:02:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:02:38 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: State of Packages Message-Id: <20130406220238.3a2d8e18c1832d6d53d71125@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <516084C6.5070504@gmail.com> References: <516084C6.5070504@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:02:49 -0000 On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:25:42 -0500 Joshua Isom wrote: > I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the first > cd-r I used. The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it hasn't > been done yet. It's been almost five months. It's easy to build a repository, it's hard to build a secure public repository. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 21:39:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404846EB for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CB020B for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 404835803E; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:39:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r36LdB46086675 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:39:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r36LdB6J086674 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:39:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:39:11 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? Message-ID: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:39:23 -0000 hello, world\n I have trouble playing Youtube videos in flash format in Firefox. This has worked in the past, but for a few weeks now, the flash videos display as a b/w noise background picture with a message centered "To render this video you need the Adobe Flash Player. Install latest Flash Player". Has Youtube conspired against me, you, FreeBSD, the world? :-) I'm wondering if I have screwed up something. I'm running 9.1-STABLE as of a few days ago, with up-to-date ports of emulators/linux_base-f10, www/linux-f10-flashplugin11 and www/nspluginwrapper ports on FF20.0. about:plugins says this: Shockwave Flash File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 MIME Type Description Suffixes application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Since I haven't heard the FreeBSD community screaming "Gimme back my Youtube!!!1!", I'll bite. What could the problem be? Is anyone else but me able to play flash, like for example "The true science of multiple universes" in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg ? Other types play just fine, like "Pt1gard's 10-Question Apollo Test" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 21:54:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4848A4C for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2F7280 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.62]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:53:33 +0200 Received: from [78.50.20.0] ([78.50.20.0]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:53:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1365285205.709.7.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:53:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2013 21:53:26.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[2ADA6720:01CE3311] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:54:46 -0000 On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the video can be watched? Wicked! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 22:00:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFA3CAC for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5EA2BD for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.59]) by smtp-out03.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:58:07 +0200 Received: from [78.50.20.0] ([78.50.20.0]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:57:48 +0200 Message-ID: <1365285467.709.10.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:57:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1365285205.709.7.camel@archlinux> References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> <1365285205.709.7.camel@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2013 21:57:48.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6D19E50:01CE3311] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:00:14 -0000 On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 23:39 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg > > Firefox 20.0 Arch Linux x86_64 can't play this video too. Neither flash, > nor gnash installed. Perhaps it's a video with a commercial, before the > video can be watched? Wicked! > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ > > Video and audio are ok for this video, still without flash or gnash. Perhaps we should switch to Windows :D. SICR From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 22:01:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06ECD51 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com (mail-ie0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785442D4 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c11so5622903ieb.15 for ; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:01:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=jvRHj5Lkir74cMdPJU8T2J4Q9WDIHGFqdkcVOetDRUo=; b=QZ4v/OrWbcLO6KJU9tYGtQGQxO4RWVbXiwKZgQO1h1I171NCcxd7TxuGmDPJ1/luLo sPmTR4+3hm8JV4XvImlKjk3u7ZMQg/q1IcqYM82rtt0F3z07bLrbKt7DHJO4MuN7MKZ5 5L/+0hJJVBCg+VkfR3qIwDMauCE77jHSMKSrIO4CBjdH4nmriWuQnRFooxVkgQXDjg6A oULCreZLZe8Xgw6dKvjgMkfcKnXqSKCeF4vRz6lTFNah2WjzaYX+mfwN8fgWMVQV8ar6 FYsQ9kXKQhz6ZS7Zn2GV8fubE20HUiBoZeT1+B8B9J1fDk9p3OLqNfiAUeVb96lHEPcl lLLA== X-Received: by 10.42.247.8 with SMTP id ma8mr8440719icb.1.1365285677192; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.wi.rr.com (CPE-65-30-199-101.wi.res.rr.com. [65.30.199.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ip2sm8270332igc.5.2013.04.06.15.01.15 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: portsnap Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:01:05 -0500 Message-ID: <6288660.6EKqeZXHZc@luna.wi.rr.com> User-Agent: KMail/4.10.1 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.10.1; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:01:17 -0000 Hi! Are there problems with portsnap servers, please? I saw on fresports.org Opera update long eight or more hours ago but my portsnap fetch update shows: portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. Thanks in advance... Mitja ---------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 22:09:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C069E5C for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A7931F for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03393E264; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 00:09:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r36M9WUg003157; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 00:09:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 00:09:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jens Schweikhardt Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? Message-Id: <20130407000932.678efc0d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:09:32 -0000 On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:39:11 +0200, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > Since I haven't heard the FreeBSD community screaming "Gimme back > my Youtube!!!1!", I'll bite. What could the problem be? Is anyone > else but me able to play flash, like for example "The true science > of multiple universes" in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg ? The video has a "ad overlay" (can skip after a few seconds), video itself plays fine here. Note that I'm providing you this reference from the past: I'm using Opera with the Linux Flash plugin (installed as described in the handbook), and the versions are opera-11.50, opera-linuxplugins-11.50, and linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5, installed in summer 2011. So I haven't changed things, and it still works, because the rule is: Never touch a running system. ;-) > Other types play just fine, like "Pt1gard's 10-Question Apollo Test" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUPtiYiMCbQ Yes, plays fine. > I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching > with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. If it's just about YouTube video, why not use youtube-dl and mplayer? I haven't tested it for those particular two videos, but it tends to work for everything. :-) I cannot provide a reference regarding Firefox (with "Flash" installed as described in the Handbook) because it freezes mny system (faulty GPU). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 23:08:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038048B5 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D57F6AD for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 57764 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2013 23:08:41 -0000 Received: from 173.48.104.62 (HELO ?10.2.2.1?) (173.48.104.62) by relay01.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2013 23:08:41 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 173.48.104.62 Message-ID: <5160AAF9.2020907@sneakertech.com> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 19:08:41 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jens Schweikhardt Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> In-Reply-To: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:08:49 -0000 > I can work around this by downloading the files with clive and watching > with mplayer, but I'd like to make this work again. To be honest, this is really the best solution for all platforms, win/mac/bsd/etc. I don't have flash installed on any of my machines: I use a plugin that downloads the mp4 and auto opens it in a local video player. This always works, you can jump/rewind without constant buffering, you don't have to deal with ads, and you don't have to deal with flash maxing out your cpu for no reason. ______________________________________ it has a certain smooth-brained appeal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 6 23:53:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C299F192 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E8881E for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r36NrHEO091588; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:53:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r36NrHnk091585; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:53:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:53:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jens Schweikhardt Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? In-Reply-To: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> Message-ID: References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 06 Apr 2013 17:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:53:18 -0000 On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > I have trouble playing Youtube videos in flash format in Firefox. This > has worked in the past, but for a few weeks now, the flash videos > display as a b/w noise background picture with a message centered "To > render this video you need the Adobe Flash Player. Install latest Flash > Player". Has Youtube conspired against me, you, FreeBSD, the world? :-) We've had a thread about it in the forums, with a couple of workarounds: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=38627