From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 00:05:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46217F61 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 00:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3E7228F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 00:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7405FCP041261 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 01:05:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FD9ABC.1010408@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 01:05:16 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Archiving a log file References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <20130803232018.GA59293@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20130803232018.GA59293@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 00:05:18 -0000 On 04/08/2013 00:20, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:11:21AM +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog >> >> As a one-off, I need to archive an old log file - say httpd-access.log - >> while its still open. I don't want this to happen automatically and I >> don't want to set up newsyslog or anything like that. And I really don't >> want to mess about with signals to whatever is writing to the file, even >> assuming the writer could respond to them. I can't just rename the file >> as it's open for writing, and there would also be a good chance that >> something will be added to the file while it's being compressed. >> >> What I actually do is: >> >> cp httpd-access.log httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 && :> httpd-access.log && >> bzip2 httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 >> >> Data might be lost here as something may be added between the cp being >> completed and the file being truncated. It's not the end of the world if >> this happens, but is there a better way? I could always shut down Apache >> for the duration, but I don't want to do that either, so in this case >> I'm happy to take the risk (it's not like I'm likely to miss anything >> that important). >> >> I don't know if this can be relied on as a POSIX thing, but the cp >> command simply(!) issues read() and write() calls until read() fails to >> get any more bytes, so if data is being appended to the file after cp is >> started it'll still be copied. Therefore the window where stuff could be >> written after the copy but before the truncation is shortened, but extant. >> >> So what's the magic utility I don't know about? > How about cronolog? I use it with Apache where Apache logs to cronolog > and cronolog handles the rotating of the logs. No signals. No races. > It even makes a symlink pointing at the newest log file. > > It doesn't seem to have a way to compress logs, but you could probably > script up something that wakes up every so often and compresses files > if a newer file exists. Thanks for the suggestion - I wasn't aware of cronolog. Unfortunately it doesn't work on existing log files, only stuff piped to it from the start, so it won't help here. I can see it being very handy in other situations though. httpd-access.log was just an example of such a file, but I'm looking for a general solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 01:13:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9315DA2F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 01:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x231.google.com (mail-qe0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53BCC24FF for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 01:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 1so1077190qec.36 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=qSWiRWUeBEMCt3qZXNt6jU3w1t5BYD9oMlu8UmOeEJU=; b=SoSUOuuo6/dnLKhTe2qOrqQ4vlDDpzNy9/f65uE2sLe8G6Q2Os0IDNjdOA4OaKejMI BT34nTw6asFM4+BT4LdxH09XEC6bPiVjTQJAjgvldXj/1gfq5IinCUlykwM3Kx+ESgXA GERD+kkJn7UNbnV4HvyAcOe95S7z6GKy50TDt3wNssww+7NYP5aubxviusvflJELtRRi ML6wVr85xc54F82lgzCnCClHbUWhm9C3qyKOS31wU0DB+LjBlOrZOZR0M7g9yM/Ttl0o F3uIh78E+uL7zcw8UTz+Ga/kY2RgelTiDPffLCKC/xGB2yttrUkBGAYvSPsNiFMheQj5 gA1g== X-Received: by 10.224.64.202 with SMTP id f10mr20297698qai.6.1375578789403; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.1.218] (mail.olivent.com. [75.99.82.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nh4sm230023qeb.6.2013.08.03.18.13.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:13:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <76073A9A-CE2D-4ACF-89B5-AAE7E580A8E6@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B350) From: mikel king Subject: Re: Archiving a log file Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 21:13:06 -0400 To: Frank Leonhardt Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 01:13:10 -0000 Do you have logger installed? You coupled pipe your CustomLog into logger wh= ich will facilitate Apache writing to syslog, in lieu of directly writing th= e file. After some tweaking this should let you use the systems standard log= rotation schema.=20 Something like: CustomLog "| logger -t httpd -p local.info" Cheers, m On Aug 3, 2013, at 19:11, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog >=20 > As a one-off, I need to archive an old log file - say httpd-access.log - w= hile its still open. I don't want this to happen automatically and I don't w= ant to set up newsyslog or anything like that. And I really don't want to me= ss about with signals to whatever is writing to the file, even assuming the w= riter could respond to them. I can't just rename the file as it's open for w= riting, and there would also be a good chance that something will be added t= o the file while it's being compressed. >=20 > What I actually do is: >=20 > cp httpd-access.log httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 && :> httpd-access.log && b= zip2 httpd-access.log-03-Aug-13 >=20 > Data might be lost here as something may be added between the cp being com= pleted and the file being truncated. It's not the end of the world if this h= appens, but is there a better way? I could always shut down Apache for the d= uration, but I don't want to do that either, so in this case I'm happy to ta= ke the risk (it's not like I'm likely to miss anything that important). >=20 > I don't know if this can be relied on as a POSIX thing, but the cp command= simply(!) issues read() and write() calls until read() fails to get any mor= e bytes, so if data is being appended to the file after cp is started it'll s= till be copied. Therefore the window where stuff could be written after the c= opy but before the truncation is shortened, but extant. >=20 > So what's the magic utility I don't know about? >=20 > Thanks, Frank. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 03:03:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4186B830 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x230.google.com (mail-qe0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00F2828A2 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 03:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 9so1092368qea.21 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:03:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=+ZMO2XGhK//YhJ7uPOgym5WTtOhEuxf3nnXtTRhv5cA=; b=v1o8JYGgHXEAnpsE30koOo37sfVHBkWMCMcEUK2UK1ewpadOrTZwRmfFPV3ZjEi+Um OZadlwA9xJwMUXaYY69inTR1Un1nbbxE44cufKqL/tKYqhW03LQ3o8iaxAo9Wwhg8TWW 6cpJtuptXB1WK/K+WHCL4p4Lr6FEwwFEE/NimkzxJLBaWzz1mBVG/xNHD3xjXp10zWrN CHthFdAPirhnTlTm1iPJ3wV8pIaScoGH7YkjYZCK9jDrPD9exCgrssYEuCGioWt6DQED +i8KeeEvB1uzHXyflkiuXBBY64rLgAeAyV9TeRs5nbiodaDlturwzIyauHy2x7doOUys +CxQ== X-Received: by 10.229.128.148 with SMTP id k20mr3165516qcs.30.1375585394570; Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.1.223] (mail.olivent.com. [75.99.82.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j11sm432648qaa.7.2013.08.03.20.03.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 03 Aug 2013 20:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Mikel King Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: Archiving a log file From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 23:04:53 -0400 Message-Id: <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> To: Frank Leonhardt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 03:03:16 -0000 On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Frank Leonhardt = wrote: > The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsy slog >=20 I did some more digging on the whole log piping thing and apache = includes a nifty little application called rotatelogs which lives in = /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs on my system that I built form the ports. = =46rom the man page: NAME=20 rotatelogs - Piped logging program to rotate Apache logs=20 SYNOPSIS rotatelogs [ -l ] [ -f ] logfile rotationtime|filesizeM [ offset = ]=20 SUMMARY=20 rotatelogs is a simple program for use in conjunction with = Apache's piped logfile feature. It supports rotation based on a time = interval or maximum size of the log. It looks pretty simple to use just create your log format directive = like: LogFormat "%t \"%r\" %>s \"%{Referer}i\" %b" SpecialFormat CustomLog "| /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs = /var/log/httpd-access.log 86400" SpecialFormat I hope that helps. I know I shall be experimenting with this one = tomorrow.=20 Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 08:29:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF14575 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6006B2262 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:29:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E4C3C3FB; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:29:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r748Tj3L002845; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:29:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:29:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jb Subject: Re: Assign program call to a key Message-Id: <20130804102945.fc534f55.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130803070846.8cabc010.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 08:29:55 -0000 On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:43:14 +0000 (UTC), jb wrote: > Polytropon edvax.de> writes: > > > > > Is there a way to assign a predefined program call to a key > > in X, _independently_ from the window manager or desktop > > environment in use? > > ... > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Xorg > It may give you some hints. The last entries on the page look interesting, but "keytouch" and "actkbd" are not available, only "xbindkeys" is in the ports collection. >From the description Allows you to launch shell commands under X with your keyboard it seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks for the *pointer! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 10:54:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90109F3E for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1742524FC for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r74AsAiN049002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 11:54:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:54:11 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Archiving a log file References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> In-Reply-To: <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:54:15 -0000 On 04/08/2013 04:04, mikel king wrote: > On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > >> The answer isn't (AFAIK) newsyslog >> > I did some more digging on the whole log piping thing and apache includes a nifty little application called rotatelogs which lives in /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs on my system that I built form the ports. From the man page: > > NAME > rotatelogs - Piped logging program to rotate Apache logs > SYNOPSIS > rotatelogs [ -l ] [ -f ] logfile rotationtime|filesizeM [ offset ] > SUMMARY > rotatelogs is a simple program for use in conjunction with Apache's piped logfile feature. It supports rotation based on a time interval or maximum size of the log. > > It looks pretty simple to use just create your log format directive like: > > LogFormat "%t \"%r\" %>s \"%{Referer}i\" %b" SpecialFormat > > CustomLog "| /usr/local/sbin/rotatelogs /var/log/httpd-access.log 86400" SpecialFormat > > I hope that helps. I know I shall be experimenting with this one tomorrow. > Thanks for looking at it, but I probably shouldn't have picked Apache as an example. I thought it would be something people were familiar with. The program writing the log is actually called flubnutz and it doesn't play nice with newsyslog, reopen handles on a signal or anything else. FWIW I've been using newsyslog since 1998 from most regular system services and I don't have any problem with it. (I lied about it being called "flubnutz", before anyone Googles it - but it's not an Apache-specific issue, as Apache logs are handled well enough with newsyslog except where you're running virtual hosts with their own log files, in which case it's a PITA.). Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 13:38:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63F5C34 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 13:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:84c1::deaf:babe]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 957112928 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 13:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.155.20.1] (2.150.50.128.tmi.telenormobil.no [2.150.50.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 671FF2E3FB; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:38:34 +0200 (CEST) References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <5DF8D376-34BF-4748-8371-C616E7FEC2A1@elde.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) From: Terje Elde Subject: Re: Archiving a log file Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:38:31 +0200 To: Frank Leonhardt Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 13:38:36 -0000 On 4. aug. 2013, at 12:54, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > The program writing the log is actually called flubnutz and it doesn't pla= y nice with newsyslog, reopen handles on a signal or anything else Then you're out of luck for normal rotation. No matter if you rename the fil= e, or even delete it, it'll keep writing to the same file (the moved file, n= ot the same filename).=20 I suppose your options are to either restart it to have it reopen the file, o= r if that's not desirable for whatever reason, look see if it'll play nice i= f you put a named pipe where the logfile is supposed to be. Then you can han= dle data as you'd like from the pipe.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 18:24:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E549503 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DECF322E2 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74IOk0G012658 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: how to make mkinstalldirs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:24:57 -0000 Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create mkinstalldirs for a port? ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or directory It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.9, but automake in the ports tree is 1.4. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 19:25:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B705543F for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 118F12560 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.239] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:48 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.81] by tm20.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1375644346; bh=0em7GSg/G1LKXy9oVkVvRCUy9a0Q/FfYeG69UcAzp6c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=icDIE+DFa4b2e3StYwvHhxPR44krGiR1tI120ghiGVsfHT8GxAUsFkQI7tu6m6u3BRd/nkXPweJRwkR5yRbBA62DY6Nxs0dslXeAvtSNOLbZBCrr5hzAkbhatHNh4E8vW6EFMzS7Sdl1FNpJu3ERCfOQYTFo+TGSO8gTZwjFVzo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 820428.13830.bm@smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: k9duTCIVM1nxHct26IUET2B1KM9HnI.Y0Cf_rjYRYoX.mhw QbQmflOkMAU1czQRTLi96TUGZOVyFAl.y3I_QYZAPQjFTMi0EuQfELsuQbNM vElBs1vO0h3EuX9SKcqohKrwO9lGWOqD.BOghKXzWOogMds_mJjEpdZavZJD hwuobfzeCMqscB3BgszG8z3m4bmeRlAlvUjKeb7uBT9Vv.veHnehyip4pUsC 2cB7tfjxsXXhC4sGhLZ5EeppTRKo11KRsj7UtHjhKUvx4NwFArgVar2F_LcR cZ9LjAjKRK0tiSX1QTy5dlV3O1bj8qbmcHjWI2ocWPplHMqJNIVQXEI2XTCK auD_klNSEKsSbWRnVgxKx9.IhsMRB5HSNXY2nLyKqVeB.YtrEA3gCzVwOx7A _Kuah93cuodXlS6YXA8TgAC4xa9El0hAQL_BC6tXmj.9CnJoahhYe8pKptEt oc9D2NZL5yUp5bU_waoyLoxy9Hjo.6shq_Ofvx9a0bTz3F6LSe6v.yOs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR X-Rocket-Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@89.7.216.154 with ) by smtp118.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2013 19:25:46 +0000 UTC Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:25:38 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to make mkinstalldirs Message-Id: <20130804212538.e080d5989aa6b24675c6a01e@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> References: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 19:25:57 -0000 On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 Gary Aitken wrote: > Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create > mkinstalldirs for a port? > > ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to > > install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or directory > > It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.9, but automake in the ports > tree is 1.4. Today I updated my system (9.1) and automake updated from 1.12.6 to 1.14 Perhaps you forget to update the ports tree first > > Gary --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 19:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6478695 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@growveg.net) Received: from smtp1.servage.net (smtp1.servage.net [IPv6:2a01:3b0:1:fb:1::2001]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B04C2737 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from potato.growveg.org (growveg-1-pt.tunnel.tserv11.ams1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f14:3d2::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.servage.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25CA5320D9 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51FEB131.2030505@growveg.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:53:21 +0100 From: John User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130627 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose fails to build on FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698 References: <51FBD63F.7050403@growveg.net> In-Reply-To: <51FBD63F.7050403@growveg.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 19:53:32 -0000 On 02/08/2013 16:54, John wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm trying to install virtualbox on a new machine running > FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698. The ports version is 324162. Is it a > problem with the port or my machine? This was fixed by: commenting everything out of /etc/make.conf svn to 9-stable, make world (etc) reboot then deleting all installed ports then removing everything from /usr/local then rm -rf /usr/ports portsnap install svn then checkout ports install virtualbox-ose sorry for the noise -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 20:44:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118FB7BB for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4A742948 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74KiA7k012995 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 14:44:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEBD1A.20001@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:44:10 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to make mkinstalldirs References: <51FE9C6E.4000304@blackfoot.net> <20130804212538.e080d5989aa6b24675c6a01e@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20130804212538.e080d5989aa6b24675c6a01e@yahoo.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:44:11 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:44:19 -0000 On 08/04/13 13:25, Eduardo Morras wrote: > On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:24:46 -0600 > Gary Aitken wrote: > >> Can anyone give me some hints on how to manually (or automagically) create >> mkinstalldirs for a port? >> >> ports/graphics/ufraw fails to build due to >> >> install: /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/gettext/mkinstalldirs: No such file or directory >> >> It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.9, but automake in the ports >> tree is 1.4. > > Today I updated my system (9.1) and automake updated from 1.12.6 to 1.14 > > Perhaps you forget to update the ports tree first typo on my part. should read: It's not supposed to be needed if automake is >= 1.19, but automake in the ports tree is 1.14 I'm up to date with automake as far as I know, and ufraw still requires mkinstalldirs to build. Thanks for the reply, though, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 20:48:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520938C1 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7BBA296C for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74KmuwA013002 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: hardware monitor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:48:58 -0000 Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, but I can't see it to tell... Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 21:15:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9837E29 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B035E2A15 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115B82460C; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r74LFmie005730; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:15:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:15:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: hardware monitor Message-Id: <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 21:15:59 -0000 On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? > I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, > but I can't see it to tell... If it's primarily about temperature... amdtemp (kernel module), healthd (system service), mbmon and xmbmon (in the ports collection). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:18:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F126F3 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90A8F2E0A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r74NHuOT071243 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:17:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FEE125.4000200@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:17:57 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardware monitor References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:18:06 -0000 On 04/08/2013 21:48, Gary Aitken wrote: > Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? > I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, > but I can't see it to tell... > > Try "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal" For more information see "man acpi" and man "acpi_thermal". If you're lucky it gives you information on the ACPI thermal control system, if you have one. If you want an alarm based on this, a shell script is easy enough. If that doesn't do it for you, try some of the others. I've known these to work (sometimes) /usr/ports/sysutils/lmmon /usr/ports/sysutils/consolehm /usr/ports/sysutils/mbmon And there are some fun modules you can add to loader.conf (stuff I've done in the past, but could be on an early version of FreeBSD) coretemp_load="YES" smbus_load="YES" smb_load="YES" intpm_load="YES" ichsmb_load="YES" Then give "sysctl dev.cpu | grep temperature" a try. If you're worried about your Winchesters getting over-cooked you can use smartctl, available in /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools. Something like "smartctl -a /dev/ad?? | grep -i temp" should do the trick. It lets you mess with the drive SMART (self-diagnositc) system and it can tell you all sorts of stuff about you drive performance to make you really paranoid. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:22:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16440886 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0F5E2E1E for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74NMbMl013432 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 17:22:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:22:37 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:22:37 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:22:56 -0000 Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a build is going on. I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related experience on? Thanks, Gary On 08/04/13 15:15, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:48:56 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Can anyone suggest a hardware monitor app in the ports tree? >> I've got an amd64 which may have a temperature issue, >> but I can't see it to tell... > > If it's primarily about temperature... amdtemp (kernel > module), healthd (system service), mbmon and xmbmon (in > the ports collection). > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:28:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EB3D4A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A40682E66 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r74NSW3A072840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:28:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FEE3A1.4080301@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:28:33 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Archiving a log file References: <51FD8E19.90403@fjl.co.uk> <37485629-94BD-48EF-B7A7-9ED4C5B9A6E5@olivent.com> <51FE32D3.3000707@fjl.co.uk> <5DF8D376-34BF-4748-8371-C616E7FEC2A1@elde.net> In-Reply-To: <5DF8D376-34BF-4748-8371-C616E7FEC2A1@elde.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:28:36 -0000 On 04/08/2013 14:38, Terje Elde wrote: > On 4. aug. 2013, at 12:54, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> The program writing the log is actually called flubnutz and it doesn't play nice with newsyslog, reopen handles on a signal or anything else > Then you're out of luck for normal rotation. No matter if you rename the file, or even delete it, it'll keep writing to the same file (the moved file, not the same filename). > > I suppose your options are to either restart it to have it reopen the file, or if that's not desirable for whatever reason, look see if it'll play nice if you put a named pipe where the logfile is supposed to be. Then you can handle data as you'd like from the pipe. > > Terje > Thanks. The consensus seems to be that there is no way to do this other than "start from a different place". It'd be difficult for the kernel to trim a file from the start unless it was on a block boundary, so it's not implemented and explains the numerous work arounds for dealing with logs (fifo to log manager, signalling an application to reopen logs because file has changed and so on). So I will carry on using my original bodge, happy in the knowledge that it may not be perfect, but there's no better method known to exist unless I want to implement a better truncate() in the kernel. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:29:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D91CDE3 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1592E72 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r74NTawL013444 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 17:29:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:29:36 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:29:37 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:29:39 -0000 On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: > Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a > build is going on. > > I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an > ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. > > The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. > If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. > I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. > > When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the > CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. > > I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process > to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. > > Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... > > Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related > experience on? BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 4 23:49:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB8E75 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-x22e.google.com (mail-vb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB0232EC8 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id p13so2211535vbe.5 for ; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N8T30z7B6ybdxlux4HhciQ4Czxhv7FxicmLHi2XVNn4=; b=z8b7veuS7JRH1lXOAtazkxuYZln6iau3woVoY9naiMsdXpjJOBzdxT8I099VNVIj+H B0LdFg8+8YRQ2QcOro4a0c8yJgQdKilyHeA171SgKHmv6nq7u7Nu7ixMZK8EAHhnfdo4 PFuDKaMteDWvbaubrR1feEv+wQuAwLwmjzCRN6zmg+4EvDfqy2G77zN6igYZqPeHf8jx kcFRNonneSsfvtCZlZhCNDKgDyyFftDNuNoBKdVtB3qq3nwtsKk5KH1ugrmnJ8mHHgIO nCXnEawKeWyFwuzIyhwHDO+fBTjni6c7W5xKvRBljzY5lph7KLycAqr1yP5TCyyANjTE 7bKg== X-Received: by 10.220.44.195 with SMTP id b3mr5006007vcf.62.1375660198870; Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kk6sm3778231vdb.5.2013.08.04.16.49.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51FEE89F.3040306@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:49:51 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:50:00 -0000 On 8/4/2013 6:29 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a >> build is going on. >> >> I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an >> ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. >> >> The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. >> If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. >> I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. >> >> When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the >> CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. >> >> I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process >> to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. >> >> Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... >> >> Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related >> experience on? > > BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. You need a better heatsink and fan for your CPU. If you're idle temp is 45, that's too high. By using powerd, so it's 800MHz, and being idle I'm at around 26C, presumably. It peaks at 45C on parallel builds. In the meantime, you can set the maximum cpu speed, which I recommend powerd for. Here's a tip when shopping, get a big beefy heatsink with a standard fan size, and replace the fan with something beefier. Either that or water cooling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 00:30:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE14708 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 618FE2FD9 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r750U13D082778 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:30:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:30:03 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:30:06 -0000 On 05/08/2013 00:29, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a >> build is going on. >> >> I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an >> ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. >> >> The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. >> If I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down abruptly. >> I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu temperatures. >> >> When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature of the >> CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. >> >> I pretty much have to manually suspend and resume the build process >> to keep it down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. >> >> Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a non-starter... >> >> Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some related >> experience on? > BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. > Did you get that from the ACPI? Obvious answers are a bigger fan, but a lot of home-build machines don't match the airflow through the case properly - if the CPU fan is blowing pre-warmed air on to the CPU it's not as good as blowing outside air. 50C isn't crazy. Some would say that was barely warm, in fact. Cooler is always better, but you possibly don't need to worry about this. Some CPUs use what they call passive temperature management, and power management, which means they increase or reduce the clock rate depending on the workload and whether it's getting too hot. Faster switching means more heat. So getting hotter when doing a lot of work makes sense and could be expected. (Winchesters really heat up like you wouldn't believe when you move the heads a lot). Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion (you emailed me privately, whether you meant to or not, but didn't mention the outcome). There's a lot there in the ACPI you might want to look in to, including fan control. If I understand it correctly, "passive cooling" will be engaged by acpi_thermal if the cpufreq drivers are in use, which may not be what you want. Try hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on (tz0 or as appropriate). Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload shutdown? it will say so on the console, or in the message log. You didn't say, you just said it "shut down". If it's deciding to shut down through over-temperature it does not necesarily mean it's overheating; it could be that it has incorrectly set the shutdown temperatue for your CPU to be far too low - possibly because it doesn't recognise it and is being over-cautious. it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal", but in the mean time look at: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT (replace tz0 with whatever tz you're worried about). The first is the temperature when the system is supposed to stop what it's doing and suspend to disk (if it can). When it reaches the value on _CRT it'll write a message to the log file and shut down immediately to prevent damage. You can set these to whatever you want, but you have to set hw.acpi.thermal.user_override to 1 first before it will let you. Final trick - make sure you specify the temperatures like sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=80C Don't specify it as 80.0C (as it will display) and don't forget the C or it will assume degrees Kelvin! Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 02:01:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98412996 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 02:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48DC2222E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 02:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r7521aJL013837; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 20:01:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:01:36 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Leonhardt Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:01:51 -0000 On 08/04/13 18:30, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 05/08/2013 00:29, Gary Aitken wrote: >> On 08/04/13 17:22, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang >>> fast when a build is going on. >>> >>> I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 with the AMD-supplied fan in an >>> ASUS M4A89TD PRO / USB3 motherboard. >>> >>> The system "works fine" unless I start a cpu-intensive build. If >>> I leave it unattended, after some time the system shuts down >>> abruptly. I'm guessing it's because of excessive cpu >>> temperatures. >>> >>> When doing port builds, or any cpu-intensive job, the temperature >>> of the CPU goes from 45 to 50 in about 30 seconds. I pretty much >>> have to manually suspend and resume the build process to keep it >>> down. If I do that, I avoid the abrupt shutdown. >>> >>> Needless to say, this makes unattended operation a >>> non-starter... >>> >>> Does anyone else have a similar setup they can provide me some >>> related experience on? >> BTW, the mobo temp stays down around 32. >> > > Did you get that from the ACPI? I think so; via amdtemp and xmbmon > Obvious answers are a bigger fan, but a lot of home-build machines > don't match the airflow through the case properly - if the CPU fan is > blowing pre-warmed air on to the CPU it's not as good as blowing > outside air. > > 50C isn't crazy. Some would say that was barely warm, in fact. Cooler > is always better, but you possibly don't need to worry about this. > Some CPUs use what they call passive temperature management, and > power management, which means they increase or reduce the clock rate > depending on the workload and whether it's getting too hot. Faster > switching means more heat. So getting hotter when doing a lot of work > makes sense and could be expected. (Winchesters really heat up like > you wouldn't believe when you move the heads a lot). Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters. Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around 59 and still climbing steeply. > Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion (you emailed me > privately, whether you meant to or not, but didn't mention the > outcome). There's a lot there in the ACPI you might want to look in > to, including fan control. If I understand it correctly, "passive > cooling" will be engaged by acpi_thermal if the cpufreq drivers are > in use, which may not be what you want. Try > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on (tz0 > or as appropriate). The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment... > Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload > shutdown? it will say so on the console, or in the message log. You > didn't say, you just said it "shut down". If it's deciding to shut > down through over-temperature it does not necesarily mean it's > overheating; it could be that it has incorrectly set the shutdown > temperatue for your CPU to be far too low - possibly because it > doesn't recognise it and is being over-cautious. There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut down the last time was some su's and root logins. > it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal", > but in the mean time look at: > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT > > (replace tz0 with whatever tz you're worried about). I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a : hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5 hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 > The first is the temperature when the system is supposed to stop what > it's doing and suspend to disk (if it can). When it reaches the value > on _CRT it'll write a message to the log file and shut down > immediately to prevent damage. You can set these to whatever you > want, but you have to set hw.acpi.thermal.user_override to 1 first > before it will let you. Final trick - make sure you specify the > temperatures like > > sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT=80C # sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.user_override sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal.user_override' obviously, something missing... I tried loading coretemp, but no additional hw.acpi variables; and the man page says it is for intel, not amd. > Don't specify it as 80.0C (as it will display) and don't forget the C > or it will assume degrees Kelvin! > > Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 03:39:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9211ACD for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63B0125E3 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r753dKM4013788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:39:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 04:39:21 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 03:39:34 -0000 On 05/08/2013 03:01, Gary Aitken wrote: > > 50C isn't crazy. > Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters. > Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around 59 > and still climbing steeply. The manufactures specs I found when I looked that range of CPUs up was 71C http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx But there could be two figures - one for maximum desirable working and one for maximum "or else". >> Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion Try >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on (tz0 >> or as appropriate). > The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment... It it full speed all the time? >> Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload >> shutdown? > There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut down > the last time was some su's and root logins. This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but something on the motherboard. >> it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal", >> but in the mean time look at: >> >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT >> > I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a : > > hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5 > hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 > hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 > hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE > hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 > hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 > hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 > hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 > hw.acpi.verbose: 0 > hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 > hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 > hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 > hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 Yep - definitely suggests that the thermal control isn't being done by FreeBSD! Go no further on this route, but check the motherboard/BIOS. I had one machine shut itself down due to a faulty thermistor (raise the threshold/ignore) but it normally happens when the parameters are wrong or the fan has failed. As your fan hasn't failed and the reported temperature is believable my best guesses are that the BIOS is either picking the wrong shutdown temperature for the CPU or your air ducting isn't good enough and it really is getting too hot. Is there a chance that the BIOS pre-dates the CPU and just doesn't know its working parameters, and is therefore playing safe? Incidentally, ACPI is an Intel specification but applies AMD64 CPUs too. The thermal module only works on some chip-sets. FWIW I've found it works on more AMD platforms than it does Intel ones. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 05:05:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D46570C for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27B12839 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r75552OV014320; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:05:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:05:02 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Sun, 04 Aug 2013 23:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:05:19 -0000 On 08/04/13 21:39, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > On 05/08/2013 03:01, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> 50C isn't crazy. >> Actually, the 50C figure is just where it shoots to for starters. >> Mfg specs say 62C max, so I stall the process when it gets around >> 59 and still climbing steeply. > > The manufactures specs I found when I looked that range of CPUs up > was 71C > > http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-model-number-comparison.aspx > > But there could be two figures - one for maximum desirable working > and one for maximum "or else". Maybe; although the number I quoted wasn't from AMD, and the two I just found at amd both said 71. >>> Did you get anywhere with the ACPI suggestion Try >>> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 to make the fan come on and stay on >>> (tz0 or as appropriate). >> The fan is on and stays on all the time at the moment... > > It it full speed all the time? I really don't know what full speed on the fan is / feels like / sounds like. It's pretty quiet and there's a noisy old system nearby... xmbmon doesn't show fan speeds, nor does amdtemp provide access to them. Is there some other kernel module for fan speeds? >>> Here's the fun part. Is your system doing a thermal overload >>> shutdown? >> There is no indication in messages; the last thing before it shut >> down the last time was some su's and root logins. > > This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but > something on the motherboard. That was my guess as well. >>> it might help if you posted the results of "sysctl >>> hw.acpi.thermal", but in the mean time look at: >>> >>> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT >>> >> I don't see any of those; here's what shows up in sysctl -a : >> >> hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5 >> hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1 >> hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE hw.acpi.standby_state: S1 >> hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3 hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1 hw.acpi.s4bios: 0 >> hw.acpi.verbose: 0 hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0 >> hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0 hw.acpi.reset_video: 0 >> hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 > > Yep - definitely suggests that the thermal control isn't being done > by FreeBSD! ok, but how do I get it in there if I want it? > Go no further on this route, but check the > motherboard/BIOS. I had one machine shut itself down due to a faulty > thermistor (raise the threshold/ignore) but it normally happens when > the parameters are wrong or the fan has failed. As your fan hasn't > failed and the reported temperature is believable my best guesses are > that the BIOS is either picking the wrong shutdown temperature for > the CPU or your air ducting isn't good enough and it really is > getting too hot. Is there a chance that the BIOS pre-dates the CPU > and just doesn't know its working parameters, and is therefore > playing safe? I'll check the BIOS next time I reboot. Air ducting shouldn't be a problem; I've got the side of the case off... > Incidentally, ACPI is an Intel specification but applies AMD64 CPUs > too. The thermal module only works on some chip-sets. FWIW I've found > it works on more AMD platforms than it does Intel ones. > > Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 05:09:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B149851; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from nschwqsrv01p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwqsrv01p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A8A287E; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nschwcmgw08p ([61.9.190.168]) by nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20130805040319.GCJE2030.nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw08p>; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 04:03:19 +0000 Received: from hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au ([58.172.113.247]) by nschwcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id 8s3K1m00Y5LKYmq01s3KKC; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 04:03:19 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LvIQOwhc c=1 sm=1 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:17 a=2Rs81elfNtwA:10 a=twTT4oUKOlYA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=GHIR_BbyAAAA:8 a=p-_465MgMcUA:10 a=iYS7i3GgzJWJw2lDjngA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=YibVxx38Z+cwdCKSMcELyg==:117 Received: from white (white.hs [10.0.5.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au (8.14.5/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r7541Urf090879; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:01:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au) From: "Dewayne Geraghty" To: "'Devin Teske'" References: <9121C290928D49ECB462DE369BE694DD@white> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D72020020B1@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <7C1FEE8CDBC34182B221C8CBCDFF759A@white> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202004630@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Subject: RE: Geli and crunchgen (/rescue) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:01:28 +1000 Message-ID: <03EC079CDDEA4FB09CB414AC5530A561@white> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac6QHAgE252R/l1WQF2gE3XKQ+4dCQAW3E6AAAmZPtAARaUNAAAKJKsw In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202004630@ltcfiswmsgmb21> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:09:59 -0000 Hi Devin, Thankyou. I'll look further into the openssl reference (off-list) in a few minutes. The geom stuff is a little bit tricky to get going, because only glabel and gpart have the necessary parts in them. Pawel left enough clues to enable the other geom classes (good engineering) The flags RELEASE_CRUNCH or RESCUE is tested in the geom/Makefile and defines STATIC_GEOM_CLASSES which is tested in the source; so: I've added this and similar to geom eli (mirror, shsec raid...) =================================================================== --- class/eli/geom_eli.c (revision 253832) +++ class/eli/geom_eli.c (working copy) @@ -54,9 +54,14 @@ #include "core/geom.h" #include "misc/subr.h" +#ifdef STATIC_GEOM_CLASSES +#define PUBSYM(x) geli_##x +#else +#define PUBSYM(x) x +#endif -uint32_t lib_version = G_LIB_VERSION; -uint32_t version = G_ELI_VERSION; +uint32_t PUBSYM(lib_version) = G_LIB_VERSION; +uint32_t PUBSYM(version) = G_ELI_VERSION; #define GELI_BACKUP_DIR "/var/backups/" #define GELI_ENC_ALGO "aes" @@ -99,7 +104,8 @@ * clear [-v] prov ... * dump [-v] prov ... */ -struct g_command class_commands[] = { + +struct g_command PUBSYM(class_commands)[] = { { "init", G_FLAG_VERBOSE, eli_main, { { 'a', "aalgo", "", G_TYPE_STRING }, Then I needed to add relevant parts (I'm really only interested in eli, mirror, shsec) in the /usr/src/sbin/geom/Makefile, but I tested clean compilation of the other common classes. --- Makefile (revision 253832) +++ Makefile (working copy) @@ -4,18 +4,40 @@ .PATH: ${.CURDIR}/class/part \ ${.CURDIR}/class/label \ + ${.CURDIR}/class/eli \ + ${.CURDIR}/class/mirror \ + ${.CURDIR}/class/shsec \ ${.CURDIR}/core \ - ${.CURDIR}/misc + ${.CURDIR}/../../sys/geom/eli ${.CURDIR}/../../sys/crypto/sha2 \ + ${.CURDIR}/misc +# For geom friends, move these up +# ${.CURDIR}/class/raid \ +# ${.CURDIR}/class/sched \ +# ${.CURDIR}/class/stripe \ +# ${.CURDIR}/class/journal \ PROG= geom SRCS= geom.c geom_label.c geom_part.c subr.c +SRCS+= geom_eli.c +SRCS+= g_eli_crypto.c +SRCS+= g_eli_key.c +SRCS+= pkcs5v2.c +SRCS+= sha2.c +SRCS+= geom_mirror.c geom_shsec.c +#SRCS+= geom_raid.c geom_sched.c geom_stripe.c +#SRCS+= geom_journal.c geom_journal_ufs.c NO_MAN= WARNS?= 2 CFLAGS+=-I${.CURDIR} -I${.CURDIR}/core -DSTATIC_GEOM_CLASSES +# For eli & friends +CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../sys -DPADD= ${LIBGEOM} ${LIBSBUF} ${LIBBSDXML} ${LIBUTIL} -LDADD= -lgeom -lsbuf -lbsdxml -lutil +DPADD= ${LIBGEOM} ${LIBSBUF} ${LIBBSDXML} ${LIBUTIL} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPTO} +LDADD= -lgeom -lsbuf -lbsdxml -lutil -lmd -lcrypto Then adding to boot_crunch.conf: progs geom special geom objs geom.o geom_label.o geom_part.o geom_mirror.o geom_shsec.o geom_eli.o sha2.o pkcs5v2.o g_eli_key.o g_eli_crypto.o subr.o ln geom geli ln geom gmirror ln geom gshsec And libs -lgeom -lkiconv -lm -lwrap libs -lssl -lcrypto -lmd # Note: I added a few other things so kiconv and wrap may not be needed for geom Resulted in release/i386/boot_crunch and /rescue performing satisfactorily :) Thanks for your help, and clues. Kind regards, Dewayne. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 05:23:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACD9A11 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F1628DC for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.162] (115-133-237-24.static.gci.net [24.237.133.115]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MR100A65IUO2EA0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 04:23:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_02:2013-08-04,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1308040380 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) From: Peter Giessel In-reply-to: <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:23:11 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> To: Gary Aitken X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:23:23 -0000 You can also try shutting down (obviously), then removing the heat sink, = put some thermal paste on the processor and reinstall the heat sink. = Sometimes there isn't much (any) thermal paste there and the processor = can't get the heat into the heat sink. On 2013, Aug 4, at 15:22, Gary Aitken wrote: > Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast = when a > build is going on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 07:05:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD816CE for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from genie@geniechka.ru) Received: from s1.loshmanov.ru (s1.loshmanov.ru [188.40.115.203]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD94E2BFA for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geniepc2011 (0894461339.static.corbina.ru [95.31.5.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by s1.loshmanov.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AEC4DF2DD3; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:55:16 +0400 (MSK) Message-ID: <456BD576767548F79AC485F631037119@geniepc2011> From: "Eugene" To: "Gary Aitken" References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:33:55 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 07:05:19 -0000 Hello Gary, Also make sure there is no packed dirt on the heatsink -- I don't know about AMDs, but older Intel heatsinks often tend to accumulate a paper-like layer of dirt on the 'top' of heatsink grid, blocking the airflow. I once had several thermal shutdowns on my home PC before I found that. This does not seem to happen with newer heatsinks so they must have changed the design somehow =) Best wishes Eugene -----Original Message----- From: Peter Giessel Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 8:23 AM To: Gary Aitken Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) You can also try shutting down (obviously), then removing the heat sink, put some thermal paste on the processor and reinstall the heat sink. Sometimes there isn't much (any) thermal paste there and the processor can't get the heat into the heat sink. On 2013, Aug 4, at 15:22, Gary Aitken wrote: > Ok, so now I see that my cpu temperature shoots up pretty dang fast when a > build is going on. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:00:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FC1F7D for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com (mail-wg0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F2472D79 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j13so1122931wgh.1 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K5bKdG1esFbkuQDt34Nb2sZvDHyyOdTI6Gph70V7tKc=; b=nC7OG4s5Jx6mz4RVrRnryLcN0iX5BD9smzXFJvmyxS0bJAwmzojeFTNBPLD6BnXLLX d91lRQziGGuJo2/C2Q88rUieAULEavfzT4nVyp0dye+DM8G9h0J53p205GcK1gnz/jAu XU8cvXyMIQZOV+zEuIfTt6d3B38c0y2hlSokqfKeq7SNde2pgg1qiAi05SPK7RKuB0dQ nslsQ7DrzDdG3P49P9A5iffmSlHjqWupn+5ztbBgWHcdX/9KK9ZsIEgMOj3BhYsMBon6 RHmE0jJ9la8kOro8DgcId1dJoV98pUfUDS1mpn7BBUhziA/zETV7ZmwLiUpmsfreb8UA in1Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.79.161 with SMTP id k1mr5756422wix.36.1375689616829; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:00:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:00:18 -0000 Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with subversion and got a message along the lines of "Error: /usr/src/ contains files from a different URL". -David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:02:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65B5B3 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CFFE2D96 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7582PFV057371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:02:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <51FF5C12.8010909@fjl.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:02:26 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:02:30 -0000 On 05/08/2013 06:05, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 08/04/13 21:39, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > This suggests it's not the ACPI in FreeBSD shutting you down, but > something on the motherboard. > That was my guess as well. As it's probably not FreeBSD you're now asking on the wrong list, and other than cooling advice you're not going to get much (unless there are any closet over-clockers hereabouts). Personally I favour filling the whole case with a pumped fluorocarbon like FC-77 and using a heat exchanger to take the heat away in water to use in a fountain in my hallway ;-) The one sensible suggestion no one has made is to check if a BIOS upgrade doesn't fix it. As to getting FreeBSD to manage it instead of the BIOS: Unfortunately not all chipsets and motherboards are supported. If you want to add support yourself see: /usr/src/sys/dev/acpica If you want to get some idea of what you're up against see: /usr/src/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_quirks I've thought about it a few times but real work always got in the way. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:11:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55E61EF for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A764C2DEA for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id r758AnrQ034865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id r758Anml034864; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03801; Mon, 5 Aug 13 00:16:09 PDT Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:15:57 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: vagabond@blackfoot.net Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) Message-Id: <51ff512d.TnLk3KpP9BCUqqA7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <51FEE3E0.5080709@blackfoot.net> <51FEF20B.2090503@fjl.co.uk> <51FF0780.1010908@blackfoot.net> <51FF1E69.4050401@fjl.co.uk> <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> In-Reply-To: <51FF327E.6000002@blackfoot.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:11:03 -0000 Gary Aitken wrote: > Air ducting shouldn't be a problem; I've got the side of the case off... This just might be part of the problem. Air plumbing is not as forgiving as it was in the old days. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:17:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338FA30A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C13E12E37 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r758GnBZ019422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:17:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r758GnBZ019422 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r758GnBZ019422; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:16:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130715 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:17:15 -0000 On 05/08/2013 09:00, David Noel wrote: > Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every > time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with > subversion and got a message along the lines of "Error: /usr/src/ > contains files from a different URL". -David You need 'svn switch' -- so, if you've got some other branch checked out, and you want to have 8.4-RELEASE instead, then it's something like: # svn switch ^/base/releng/8.4 This will speedily change your checked out tree with minimal network IO. You can also use 'svn switch --relocate' to change which svn servers you have the tree checked out from or the protocol (svn://, https:// etc) used. See the output of 'svn help switch' for details. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 08:25:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1A95ED; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B7DF2EAC; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id l18so1065355wgh.0 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=y6rWRfBPh6sR4ehfn0l7vU8JZPdz8hiY+MFSsxh3avc=; b=qgZEHmcxrZp4tdE44qMhm9Ep71eXMRnBZSL/4tOKKq95cYWizihRrD/CiC7B2rbMK0 9IUGudUm5F6oNuwPjAsiH8gEj3MXWGS8eRxa13K3Yg7acXP3ozgd+7rbsEdWtq1Zz9sd GW7aZaUkzfioueXAm0poMMdrkToQgvNPu3l+05P9NBaCCka0ypObdWSmmKTYW11qYRPI Vd6aXtk07W9YHPCjfvptrcgpZuSsEmyz/iNAu/5Bq6+cFNxNPqZknETV4P+9q+KlqVL3 sOoPjwhq7E5+RBzB+qyrrtumnqx0teyLZIdMpLsEbNZPVvjRfSO7e7WR2i/DnGkCzxQr WlTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.77.164 with SMTP id t4mr5749780wiw.58.1375691139747; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:25:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:25:42 -0000 Ok great, thanks Matthew. I tried a different search query and actually found a similar question on the forums: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=35014 Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". I'll check out the man for svn switch. Thanks again, -David On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/08/2013 09:00, David Noel wrote: >> Does anyone know how a workaround for having to rm -rf /usr/src every >> time the source URL changes? I'm updating from 8.3 to 8.4 with >> subversion and got a message along the lines of "Error: /usr/src/ >> contains files from a different URL". -David > > You need 'svn switch' -- so, if you've got some other branch checked > out, and you want to have 8.4-RELEASE instead, then it's something like: > > # svn switch ^/base/releng/8.4 > > This will speedily change your checked out tree with minimal network IO. > > You can also use 'svn switch --relocate' to change which svn servers you > have the tree checked out from or the protocol (svn://, https:// etc) > used. See the output of 'svn help switch' for details. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 09:34:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E450A37 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A54C021C2 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id m15so2249626wgh.5 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:34:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8OcX6isJaHeJOASO2nd/y8R2vBQRN01ISNbteR1HJqA=; b=MWeW+DYyzgWwtHntUQyhGCa57Rmfm4ATOQNUBom7U5yG0boD/84xRLXVkVndfyBT6h PqLzBaWNzIVOpCU/FVHVRUKlmqeb6oppgzUWoNuRLhfwaQlA5xQ3naYrMg/WJqTJV5qz 1a602b2OSrFQHohU/or0DT/5V1fh8HppRngl/0WTwCB3lWzrscxcCtUOYKlktKUAMplp qiIKKsw+k2se7OL9asmqR09hui0Af3vP4CZ5Jo1jdqa+MGiFrIgN1DFeNgrdO1jKIr0f knJECBV/X1DJb0lb2Vuv5F00T1tmw49yoEoFoHTJnHS1ckGSQaW4yz7UyX6zBLAB5VMT ZLIw== X-Received: by 10.180.198.146 with SMTP id jc18mr6086288wic.61.1375695244885; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jf9sm20149683wic.5.2013.08.05.02.34.03 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 02:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:34:02 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Phenom II X4 temperature issues (was Re: hardware monitor) Message-ID: <20130805103402.48efec84@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <456BD576767548F79AC485F631037119@geniepc2011> References: <51FEBE38.2000202@blackfoot.net> <20130804231548.dbb1fd2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <51FEE23D.3020402@blackfoot.net> <9CA2343F-172A-4B5C-A8BC-CC6F24B30617@mac.com> <456BD576767548F79AC485F631037119@geniepc2011> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:34:07 -0000 On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:33:55 +0400 Eugene wrote: > Hello Gary, > > Also make sure there is no packed dirt on the heatsink -- I don't > know about AMDs, but older Intel heatsinks often tend to accumulate a > paper-like layer of dirt on the 'top' of heatsink grid, blocking the > airflow. I once had several thermal shutdowns on my home PC before I > found that. This does not seem to happen with newer heatsinks so they > must have changed the design somehow =) I had a AMD Phenom II X4 and it had exactly that problem. Every few months I had to remove the fan to get a brush into the fins. An idle temperature of 45 C sounds about right for one that's been neglected. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 12:18:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59F9314 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707AE2A7C for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:18:39 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ANp1G3FL c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 a=VRFYND3hwskA:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=R2wlin_8hV4A:10 a=NWrPtjw8sDt-NFz5ozEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=AnxB3rlEjkAA:10 a=dKhSAolqj0AA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:36762] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 4E/3A-14489-8189FF15; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:18:33 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:18:31 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: deleting managed content using svn X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:18:39 -0000 I have a system that uses svn to track src+ports+doc. For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean copy. Neither on-system documentation nor the deeper documentation listed therein show how to do this. Or at least not in a way my brain is currently processing. :-) Is there a better way than "rm -rf"? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 12:27:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAEE608 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 866DD2AD4 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r75CQtvK023232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:26:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r75CQtvK023232 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r75CQtvK023232; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <51FF9A0E.9080702@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:26:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130715 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: deleting managed content using svn References: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:27:01 -0000 On 05/08/2013 13:18, Robert Huff wrote: > > I have a system that uses svn to track src+ports+doc. > For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed > material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean > copy. In principle SVN will be able to tell you if your checked out copy differs at all from what is in the repo. However, given you've said you don't want to do that.... > Neither on-system documentation nor the deeper documentation > listed therein show how to do this. Or at least not in a way my > brain is currently processing. :-) > Is there a better way than "rm -rf"? Nope. rm -rf of the checked out filesystem is going to blow away everything you had and let you start again from scratch. The only things that could remain are entries under ~/.subversion (or /root/.subversion) which will contain such things as records of SSL keys to trust or login details if you needed a password for access. You probably don't need to worry about doing anything to those. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 12:38:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D48F7CE for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92E52B61 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:38:43 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=IO07VGfG c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=j4OFTB23DU8A:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=EefO3FaoTwgA:10 a=oTl96NVse2J_UvhPDJsA:9 a=Hp_7gAwspGYHCQ4e:21 a=DMIPmwXmDEMQI8jv:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:31812] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id D3/DF-04066-1DC9FF15; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:38:43 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20991.40144.184680.529901@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:38:40 -0400 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: deleting managed content using svn In-Reply-To: <51FF9A0E.9080702@freebsd.org> References: <20991.38935.826157.903508@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <51FF9A0E.9080702@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:38:44 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > > For reasons I won't get into, I want to scrub all svn-managed > > material under src in preparation for grabbing a completely clean > > copy. > > > Is there a better way than "rm -rf"? > > Nope. rm -rf of the checked out filesystem is going to blow away > everything you had and let you start again from scratch. The only > things that could remain are entries under ~/.subversion (or > /root/.subversion) which will contain such things as records of SSL keys > to trust or login details if you needed a password for access. You > probably don't need to worry about doing anything to those. Thanks. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 13:22:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFF9163; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0772CF5; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r75DM2xs025515; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r75DM2SV025512; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Noel Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:22:09 -0000 On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, David Noel wrote: > Ok great, thanks Matthew. I tried a different search query and > actually found a similar question on the forums: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=35014 That is an outdated thread. Ignore it. > Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r > /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". > > I'll check out the man for svn switch. The new form is just 'svn relocate': http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 13:50:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9806491A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F4AF2E57 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r75DoiOH024510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:50:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r75DoiOH024510 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r75DoiOH024510; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:50:44 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130715 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Noel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:50:51 -0000 On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote: >> Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r >> /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". >> >> I'll check out the man for svn switch. > > The new form is just 'svn relocate': > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 Just to be clear: 'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the repository. 'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is used to switch between branches within the repo. It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 13:55:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75871A6D for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22a.google.com (mail-oa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40B6E2E8E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so6368895oag.29 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=e124f0BiPf78RR/Ix7ZDzDqZHEuR4kc2PMcDXz0oE30=; b=IeHF1pCtia1D78fxAji/0kVoVXOfGE7Bgi/UZEx6vjJ2UI45Nxp4bCumkNPPramhjh E/7yRn9yRKSRP5mQG2yIkDxy65ZxR2BOFoP+IHVSQD7OWd8r+DnryYzCN5s4+IPcLU0w 7mMb9ajsjKynBeejD0fzDLlZICGD45X8lCJMmehLf/NfLg3ZxSOtY3HcrqfrntrpK5wX fKmIY8u4Ccs942/ClsPykWYaC6K8NwWIHcJYsQX/+7YPWH7KAlOfLnZEz++y5/5h+f0v f8hINT9MBjVuY+czc0JN3P8TCV5vGH37/bywHr2Uq6SGuN6puSow1fkLw+1QRGFiqxrk 1CCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.145.69 with SMTP id jt5mr1596399icc.65.1375710901385; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.71.104 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:55:01 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MlDLy3NSMMFvjLm-SPPcx6D8Wuk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Make Release From: Rick Miller To: Amitabh Kant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , freebsd general questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:55:02 -0000 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Amitabh Kant wrote: > Devin Teske & Rick Miller have a fairly extensive explanation on their > blogs on how to create your own modified iso's. Search the archives for > links. Hopefully they can chime in with their respective links. Sorry to show up late for the discussion... Devin Teske definitely has more experience and knowledge than I. However, several of my blog posts may have relevant and helpful information on customizing images. There's not really one single answer as it depends largely on what you're looking to do. My customized images use a scripted sysinstall install.cfg that fetches a dynamically generated answer file from Cobbler. The answer file is based on a text template which includes Cheetah calls to Cobbler snippets for various things, including modifying the rc.conf. All lines modifying the rc.conf are placed in the answer file following the installCommit resword. Also understand that we replaced the http media type module with our own permitting direct http installs. In 8.4 or newer, there is a new media type called httpDirect (or similar) that accomplishes this as well. Here are some posts you may find helpful: http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2013/04/11/installing-freebsd-via-cobbler/ http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/08/building-freebsd-media-with-custom-packages/ http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/05/08/using-sysinstall-for-automated-freebsd-8-x-installs/ Bear in mind this applies specifically to FreeBSD 8.x. I will begin attacking 9.x in the coming months and anticipate more blog posts on accomplishing similar tasks within 9.x. -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:12:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C00EB78 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x244.google.com (mail-oa0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BB5C222D for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f68.google.com with SMTP id j6so2804062oag.7 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LpDVxSQ0SZ6NgdTF0p1PNm7oZRHDcFj48HydeRVikSM=; b=fECiokdcs7ORjscp33P9oGPLai8gvApmuFueOkrbdPpW/mrrbHJoptqMPkW8Euik1e zXJAYuRJcLf4KNQvrTLCA2a7klta+Uu8/udYGF76aehUMBlymxOXLfFIrSC0W87unBDP H+Ao5hkOJhrxZ+jsT3FWvh5+xoEzNnHJ3DIIImPRXISvEIrWQv2Ndu6VD5mfzcbqkf2G lyyXWS5mYlZeKxMwDFrTLVOjq6OEeFfCLGOHWbAYTiIaszHrneM/T8B9JM+K7JXYht3O 3P2M+o4DoG9FK9OlscWu2EGAylvY1TBDSaddwrNl/a3/a9GwiQ744RaNd5pXpe8NQYg4 LW5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.129.68 with SMTP id nu4mr1136198igb.9.1375715521602; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.246.134 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:12:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: disk is AWOL From: Dieter BSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:12:02 -0000 >> 8.2 amd64 >> ad8 is a 3TB Seagate on nforce4-ultra controller >> >> At boot: >> ad8: 2861588MB > at ata4-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s >> DEBUG g_part_gpt.c gpt_read_hdr() ad8 succeeded with pp->>sectorsize=512 >> >> An hour later: >> # dd if=/dev/ad8 bs=4k count=1 of=/dev/null >> dd: /dev/ad8: No such file or directory >> >> BUT: there was no "ad8: FAILURE - device detached" or similar message >> on the console, in dmesg, or in /var/log/*. The disk just disappeared >> without a peep from the kernel. What's going on? Frank writes: > Is this repeatable? Does it appear when you reboot and then vanish > after a period of time? The disk reappeared after a reboot, and is still there working fine (both read and write) after over 21 hours. > At boot, what does "atacontrol list" say, Before reboot: ATA channel 4: Master: no device present Slave: no device present After reboot: ATA channel 4: Master: ad8 Serial ATA II Slave: no device present (It shouldn't even report a slave for the SATA ports, since SATA doesn't *have* slaves.) > and what about before and after you've tried to read from the drive? No change, even after being up over 21 hours. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:14:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402D7C46; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3B392255; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id j17so1651888wiw.17 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UlxdS2V3gUVtn4qloofdE1oFkqVi6koT0W/T8COxXC0=; b=CQ+BgFm4wp90OPT7MMWzSZpnV2ON8P6u74IypUx4UoFF35xp0yVL5nCr+88QfCMW/T ddNl1xc+foEyMySxF4tPwdmPjmzbQ4tuqhtMp3CkyuT8oF0TSEICMCaV3Yc3TnCyXqSn CH74J2iHupJe/T9ChBgXi0kmkZaCq264aTBaVnZQE6E02wZyae5z3AHTy6PvC5712VAh Ru4qOGxa0z0AIVG/9YqqakFCiPYtgq2l+kEc7lnHNXLajeA8RZOP3yuS1PBNLrawD/Y1 QEbQdTlStrHjp1K/wSYIkcLNp4Ea4rVWzgxiVUG86WYc38z3eYnOqX/RMcJvcXUuaSyP 52lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.206.164 with SMTP id lp4mr7186433wic.1.1375715684896; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:14:47 -0000 Thanks, guys! On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote: >>> Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r >>> /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". >>> >>> I'll check out the man for svn switch. >> >> The new form is just 'svn relocate': >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 > > Just to be clear: > > 'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to > change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the > repository. > > 'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is > used to switch between branches within the repo. > > It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:16:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99CFD19; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57FA7227D; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hi8so1671920wib.5 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ijzBysfMbH6kBx5Xxcl4wnUEgXDRXCu4WRwG7WJYIOE=; b=Mi6wIu37UP2vrxl8Ogwe9kPJk/lsNbPesKscOL2cZi8Vm+eos6bi3TyXLMPjRSraDv +MPiYaDnYjAx+Xgc3NUR1N7djTamwq3KCy83LTwzkBRT+7rcilLKyNgheISHQtN2YfK8 MLW6Gg0115zI9e8STb2QYQsM27n8F+BZLkHmwOcR5GgSv9DNfXfbnlIsjvhrlHJpljRl 4aUqWnqFVMWujmG7dkXDpKTdIc428/ToS2RSFHAmT+1dXHgFu7V6rABvFqKnPNmSs/9D ndafiZzQoMA3ja4Ih8gQRltE7OKm7fLN59UqZOoxOE4fimPOZ7DkLg4KRp2mRNcLgIaB m+rA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.182.67 with SMTP id ec3mr7140683wic.1.1375715803629; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.2.141 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:16:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion From: David Noel To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:16:46 -0000 On 8/5/13, David Noel wrote: > Thanks, guys! > > On 8/5/13, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 05/08/2013 14:22, Warren Block wrote: >>>> Your solution looks a bit cleaner than the one proposed there: "rm -r >>>> /usr/src/.svn, and then check out the new branch". >>>> >>>> I'll check out the man for svn switch. >>> >>> The new form is just 'svn relocate': >>> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=224243&postcount=5 >> >> Just to be clear: >> >> 'svn relocate' is the new form for 'svn switch --relocate', used to >> change the servers or the protocol (or both) used to access the >> repository. >> >> 'svn switch' (without the --relocate argument) is still valid and is >> used to switch between branches within the repo. >> >> It's just 'svn switch --relocate' which is deprecated. Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the default "reply" behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do it was with a greasemonkey script... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 15:24:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678ABFAC for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A57822DB for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D5A210CD for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:24:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=Got0A6aThrrllf5wua7jXdVHFjg=; b=Evz 5kuH9SqNjUzHaWR3JZPGjAE6SPRhgQgz+7boIF9d9Hj4oj5Mxl3RjoFSCwFavPjP 3edcszLhL85CffCHIVu0AUwrO36i4W4/ed6e6zDLyElRcOs3nevF41qn2wOIIheW gHMFZLQ3sjJ4VOCng3N9Y4a9VH8Vjd6Gzf69kUpU= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9ED62B02158; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1375716245.17838.6045575.3C7621DF@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: PLuywN5kSDD2Kb+GqdbJtLPXsG2TongFX5p+uiCqBIQx 1375716245 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2d520484 In-Reply-To: References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:05 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:24:12 -0000 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013, at 10:16, David Noel wrote: > > Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the > default "reply" behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do > it was with a greasemonkey script... > Google still hasn't figure out how to bottom post. Can you imagine how awful their internal emails are? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 18:15:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430F8F0F for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@staticsafe.ca) Received: from uriel.asininetech.com (uriel.asininetech.com [IPv6:2607:5300:60:e3a::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 059C52DCE for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uriel.asininetech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B25E0A83 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:31 -0400 (EDT) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 uriel.asininetech.com E1B25E0A83 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=staticsafe.ca; s=2013; t=1375726531; bh=AUqTo1ZMkqPiDxSmo8IzrqL4owjqanri6hwqW+JTyCQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=uomItTDAEALN5Sp6y46vfML6Q/BTH6aBX5ebK9PfRCzhsvXtA8JmVx2UnT7CQYTA/ Wh35grtuUASgUdxReKzlc+D75dk8XzKMvtMAkKFwJ3DbM49TzZxmAd/fvMFbT8gofp MLcsaRYjqfb66ex52zmbIgPV7xcYUy2fMrkSTft4= Received: from uriel.asininetech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uriel.asininetech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6n7hm7-zQizH for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uriel.asininetech.com (uriel.asininetech.com [IPv6:2607:5300:60:e3a::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uriel.asininetech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28D35E054B for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:31 -0400 (EDT) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 uriel.asininetech.com 28D35E054B DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=staticsafe.ca; s=2013; t=1375726531; bh=AUqTo1ZMkqPiDxSmo8IzrqL4owjqanri6hwqW+JTyCQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=uomItTDAEALN5Sp6y46vfML6Q/BTH6aBX5ebK9PfRCzhsvXtA8JmVx2UnT7CQYTA/ Wh35grtuUASgUdxReKzlc+D75dk8XzKMvtMAkKFwJ3DbM49TzZxmAd/fvMFbT8gofp MLcsaRYjqfb66ex52zmbIgPV7xcYUy2fMrkSTft4= Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:15:29 -0400 From: staticsafe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update /usr/src with subversion Message-ID: <20130805181529.GB7548@uriel.asininetech.com> References: <51FF5F70.7020205@freebsd.org> <51FFADB4.2040103@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:15:41 -0000 On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:16:43AM -0500, David Noel wrote: > Ooops. Top-posted. I always forget. Does anyone know how to change the > default "reply" behavior of gmail? Last I searched the only way to do > it was with a greasemonkey script... You can try using Gmail with a MUA, like mutt or Thunderbird. Gmail supports IMAP and SMTP access. -- staticsafe O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. Please don't CC! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 18:34:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEA24F9 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix0930@me.com) Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.232.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE52F04 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (unknown [119.129.151.154]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MR200EQIJFQIWC0@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 17:33:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_05:2013-08-05,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1308050157 References: <51FBD63F.7050403@growveg.net> <51FEB131.2030505@growveg.net> MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) In-reply-to: <51FEB131.2030505@growveg.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <760327CB-384B-42DC-BC69-BBB1297DDF15@me.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: felix zhao Subject: Re: virtualbox-ose fails to build on FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 01:33:26 +0800 To: John Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:34:01 -0000 How to svn to 9-stable, make world (etc)? How to delete all installed ports?= And then rm -rf /usr/local/*? Nice hints! Felix =B7=A2=D7=D4=CE=D2=B5=C4 iPad =D4=DA 2013-8-5=A3=AC3:53=A3=ACJohn =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA= > On 02/08/2013 16:54, John wrote: >> Hello list, >>=20 >> I'm trying to install virtualbox on a new machine running >> FreeBSD 9.2-BETA2 #0 r253698. The ports version is 324162. Is it a >> problem with the port or my machine? >=20 > This was fixed by: >=20 > commenting everything out of /etc/make.conf > svn to 9-stable, make world (etc) reboot > then deleting all installed ports > then removing everything from /usr/local > then rm -rf /usr/ports > portsnap > install svn then checkout ports > install virtualbox-ose >=20 > sorry for the noise > --=20 > John >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 18:45:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B24D718 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com (mail-bk0-f49.google.com [209.85.214.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF8782FB0 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id r7so1096295bkg.36 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=7fG53cbDLTuq7QRu8R/dH/kmqHW2AsJRHq1sMPdOn/U=; b=j4+nbSRBL3kROu7I8XGSbViBIozNoBobUTvFag+RspW1aqyNswY08nbwQsemJWOgE8 iZGy2ITwt+8e3YsoXGe9QbSVEdpQ+AfPIs/u0hjJikd3xBkxM7ZfGkF9e5i+I37FlNw4 G3JID15HfXF9ZiLvJGlAMfNB/5/OapnZPx1iozLX7FsB9I39kcJaUoPl6T0zGy8Twvar MiQhUEsdCb5pMme0jA/y+HxgHQqyA/mfg2mJ2Q02hCjeCTDRsV2LkfvvstCC3PhJZSDP K9WaRtCph8YAHbIyHARWP1P0/SUBYLwaTet0ZBR4oqZUtz/TmdiSGK23PToLSgSnfzOS CW4g== X-Received: by 10.204.162.12 with SMTP id t12mr3104879bkx.67.1375728302079; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (p5DDDB093.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. 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(I'm not talking about Xorg etc, just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great) I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not just Android), and it would be nice if that model was also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the foreseeable future. Any suggestions w.r.t. models? 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From: Adam Vande More To: cpghost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:05:58 -0000 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, cpghost wrote: > Hello list, > > what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs? > Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at > least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc, > just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would > suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great) > > I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not > just Android), and it would be nice if that model was > also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the > foreseeable future. > > Any suggestions w.r.t. models? > All I can recall was this thread(read whole thing): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246404.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 5 21:07:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162E3B45 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 21:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E402C286A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 21:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id kp13so3725477pab.7 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wgJZqcJrYYWnPz2PnJMWsrZXzecDqmgRhBq3weS6mkg=; b=diBDNy3mvaBTuddRP9KHIbYyIj44E/OnIUMtvNyyWh9c06i4ymH+iVGyMi/ATrKP36 tRZm0vpEhmrwp1CGiNslrVgDoTnCV5bbCy4jQ+2oB/+zZDVz1gaxS9ddWpCMEGd2C+9A zVjr8hu+k+8ptBqAXr/biteM/aHH1Wv9QuUzNxNpiomjpSe/CwluKD2uqiLjo3b1PaOY fowDHQy1JL4lHU/S7M7B3g2dRSrrPMfbMb1HBrE9zo4QYERMsGn6vPXwuOVjBWG5Zixd uIVkE0p2deqJmoQtmiYuk9KHmCAgVhE8GJxMMDLozXk3eRRPERYHKFHgT5g6voykanZR C3Ug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.136.168 with SMTP id qb8mr20200407pbb.83.1375736827647; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.88.74 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:07:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51FFF2A8.5050201@cordula.ws> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 16:07:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tablet PCs and FreeBSD? From: Adam Vande More To: cpghost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:07:08 -0000 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, cpghost wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs? >> Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at >> least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc, >> just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would >> suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great) >> >> I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not >> just Android), and it would be nice if that model was >> also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the >> foreseeable future. >> >> Any suggestions w.r.t. models? >> > > All I can recall was this thread(read whole thing): > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246404.html > Also asking on freebsd-arm might get you farther. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 01:03:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D1C123 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 01:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthonyce@stpeter.com.ph) Received: from pmx.stpeter.com.ph (stpeter.com.ph [124.106.103.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDC720A1 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 01:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pmx.stpeter.com.ph (pmx.stpeter.com.ph [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E66E3987E5 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:39:25 +0800 (PHT) Received: from Anthonyitd (unknown [192.168.5.25]) by pmx.stpeter.com.ph (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AEF3987DC for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:39:24 +0800 (PHT) From: "John Anthony C. 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[IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF3EA45 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 03:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0C362555 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 03:33:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: Received: from [192.168.2.21] (99-170-102-4.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [99.170.102.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r763X9OL069371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:33:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 23:33:08 -0400 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: php problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=99.170.102.4; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=99.170.102.4; helo=[192.168.2.21] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 99.170.102.4; Sender-helo: [192.168.2.21]; ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 03:33:17 -0000 A few years ago (2011) I set up an email system for a small internet based company. I used postfix with a mysql backend for virtual accounts. I also set up apache to test a php based webmail front-end. I set up several php scripts that would run from cron that would query a database and look for new email account requests and then do a variety of tasks to get everything set up properly. After I left, someone else made modifications to the system and things stopped working properly. A few months ago I was asked to try and get things working again. I discovered that all php scripts now generate a seg fault. I tried a simple "hello world" type program the actual code is : and the output was; testsegmentation fault The system is FreeBSD 8.2 and php 5.3 If anyone has any idea of what changes might have been made that could cause this, please let me know. My other thought was to try reinstalling / upgrading php. Thanks in advance Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 08:26:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A49A97B for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: from emailserver2.asdf456.com (emailserver2.asdf456.com [72.18.207.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E11D2F18 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 08:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10952 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2013 08:20:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO noos.larseighner.com) (71.20.75.102) by emailserver2.asdf456.com with SMTP; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 01:20:02 -0700 Received: by noos.larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@noos.larseighner.com; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 09:22:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 09:21:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: Mark Moellering Subject: Re: php problems In-Reply-To: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> Message-ID: References: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:26:46 -0000 On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Mark Moellering wrote: > I tried a simple "hello world" type program > the actual code is : > echo "test" > ?> > and the output was; > > testsegmentation fault First, try it with clean code: put the ; after the command and stop closing the > The system is FreeBSD 8.2 and php 5.3 > > If anyone has any idea of what changes might have been made that could cause > this, please let me know. My other thought was to try reinstalling / > upgrading php. > > Thanks in advance > > Mark Moellering > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 10:35:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCD87E8 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barbaraann1986@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x242.google.com (mail-wi0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46B4125E4 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f194.google.com with SMTP id en1so64334wid.1 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 03:35:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9j0HwgAzVEdZjT3Cu2O2rYJmfQv3id2d7naN8BMNF8g=; b=zzSFhX71O20Yr11uMCpMeLdVHHYveVcEw4BynFqItMM17/HhuRCy//glcDN+t0Qw9M t79CL/fUFcPCm9m5QVuyp8CbfH9loHhBUmr/giT9D50pXkhaPAk29FuNVmsC1ymoEsKX s6CFA9TU5FeS4+FJPRj1lPad8arJqr5s6g1yQZ9uo1NYZFa+Fmr+n0P9AkE6N2dAxRq6 DT9ShQ70KViq9p4EWp9Zi5xMJab++9qEug1ubIxmHIOdKgcsZpXbuaGMwkNXhb4rtwrZ qksCgEwCVdoYXHALVl4torKW60OB/mMGwLJny/y+AOLOZp4G3/xZFgVbBXQypsdthxjF bEWg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.184.107 with SMTP id et11mr1444435wic.60.1375785319526; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 03:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.94.67 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 03:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.94.67 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 03:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 03:35:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Doc From: Barbaraann Coleman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:35:21 -0000 Doc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 12:12:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABB645C for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AAD62B10 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r76CCQ4k032409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:12:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <5200E82C.80306@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:12:28 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php problems References: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:12:31 -0000 On 06/08/2013 15:21, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Mark Moellering wrote: > >> I tried a simple "hello world" type program >> the actual code is : >> > echo "test" >> ?> >> and the output was; >> >> testsegmentation fault > > First, try it with clean code: put the ; after the command and stop > closing > the Actually that should work and does work. I'm in the happy position of being able to recreate (but without the fault): %php test.php test %php --version PHP 5.3.6 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jul 27 2011 20:41:21) Copyright (c) 1997-2011 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2011 Zend Technologies %uname -v FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC %cat test.php %php test.php test % So what you're should doing should work. I should try recompiling and reinstalling PHP as a first step, unless you have reasons you don't want to do that. Email me directly if you want to cross-check config files and so on on what may be a very similar environment. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 12:17:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B9155E for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 932132B49 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r76C0cEK030479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:00:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <5200E568.8030307@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:00:40 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php problems References: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:17:26 -0000 On 06/08/2013 15:21, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Mark Moellering wrote: > >> I tried a simple "hello world" type program >> the actual code is : >> > echo "test" >> ?> >> and the output was; >> >> testsegmentation fault > > First, try it with clean code: put the ; after the command and stop > closing > the Actually that should work and does work. I'm in the happy position of being able to recreate (but without the fault): %php test.php test %php --version PHP 5.3.6 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jul 27 2011 20:41:21) Copyright (c) 1997-2011 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2011 Zend Technologies %uname -v FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC %cat test.php %php test.php test % So what you're should doing should work. I should try recompiling and reinstalling PHP as a first step, unless you have reasons you don't want to do that. Email me directly if you want to cross-check config files and so on on what may be a very similar environment. Regards, Frank. 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My other thought was to try > reinstalling / upgrading php. That could be a problem with the extensions order in php.ini (search google "php + crash + freebsd) There is a script to fix the order, I have not tried it. http://people.freebsd.org/~ohauer/scripts/fixphpextorder.sh Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 14:54:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BDD81B for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-x22f.google.com (mail-qa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC64522BA for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id o19so1689707qap.6 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:54:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=V0cr84oFcUO66p4FIvvZys9ejeuNlVyEMaXMCOoKLHc=; b=VVWw8sSTcfWZj9dGALBSJx4N/qQMsZ00WHTQGrpPJZIUcfMkQl9QfobEG790krYKUO SoL0neMz3OKai4p6gJYYkEgRQnomAD+hNDVo6ZSzCx5zpHCsC5/R4oypSQ3mhwFtGAP4 M4wfT3Rtaf9VMklnCKBH3Vkz1hqYGC5lFYK07Ve7Bhk6BqWBjab2UWEKksL5I+3n9Xh2 4T21ZTE0LSWzAAY97qwSCY5vEBx8f5U55ZCXIpPc6N+b8npD1ywYA80Ej3/j9N/wDDE8 ru8UcsNrdFMTe3DXgyE8QDLncnbVE/ZWptDJJmSUNCexv8CHbU4AYThot//dWLJRT9YO c9Cg== X-Received: by 10.49.127.196 with SMTP id ni4mr2363109qeb.5.1375800882172; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.1.223] (mail.olivent.com. [75.99.82.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g9sm4861044qaz.4.2013.08.06.07.54.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: php problems From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:56:21 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> To: Mark Moellering X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:54:44 -0000 On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Mark Moellering wrote: > A few years ago (2011) I set up an email system for a small internet = based company. I used postfix with a mysql backend for virtual = accounts. I also set up apache to test a php based webmail front-end. > I set up several php scripts that would run from cron that would query = a database and look for new email account requests and then do a variety = of tasks to get everything set up properly. > After I left, someone else made modifications to the system and things = stopped working properly. A few months ago I was asked to try and get = things working again. >=20 > I discovered that all php scripts now generate a seg fault. >=20 > I tried a simple "hello world" type program > the actual code is : > echo "test" > ?> > and the output was; >=20 > testsegmentation fault >=20 > The system is FreeBSD 8.2 and php 5.3 >=20 > If anyone has any idea of what changes might have been made that could = cause this, please let me know. My other thought was to try = reinstalling / upgrading php. >=20 > Thanks in advance >=20 > Mark Moellering > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hey Mark, Do you have a backup/alternative system you can test the code on? In = lieu of that I would seriously consider rebuilding php. After you get it = working it would be worth also considering upgrading to 55. Also make a complete revision backup of the code and config files once = you get it working, this will save a lot of hair if the company in = question hires someone else to tweak things in the future=85=20 Cheers, Mikel= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 16:34:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4BB62E; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham_breitbach@ssimicro.com) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1268D2799; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.4/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76GK5Ff033650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:20:05 -0600 From: markham breitbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:34:06 -0000 On 13-08-03 8:04 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: > Actually, there's /usr/share/bsdconfig/media/tcpip.subr > > I don't seem to have that (FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE). Where would I get that from? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 16:41:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F4EA4D for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E558281E for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76GP4Cr096741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:25:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:25:03 -0500 From: dweimer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: How to Fix Port Audit showing ports not installed on a system Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: <58b0a130601de49508aa7f7b8c1c9833@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:41:09 -0000 I have a system that I just recently setup port audit, after realizing I forgot to install it on the machine. The problem is that it is finding vulnerabilities in several ports that are not installed on the system. These may have been installed at one point and removed. Firefox is one of the ones listed, I know that it was on the system previously, but was removed a few months back. portmaster -l and pkg info don't list it as installed, but port audit shows: firefox-20.0,1. Where would portaudit be picking up these ports from? Is there anyway to reset its database? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 16:43:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF24B17; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE842850; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8E43C6EB; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r76GhWAt002912; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:43:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:43:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: markham breitbach Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Message-Id: <20130806184332.ff7f0c4d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Devin Teske , questions , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:43:43 -0000 On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:20:05 -0600, markham breitbach wrote: > On 13-08-03 8:04 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: > > Actually, there's /usr/share/bsdconfig/media/tcpip.subr > > > > > I don't seem to have that (FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE). > Where would I get that from? Maybe from sysutils/bsdconfig in the ports collection? I have not checked if this specific subroutine file is part of the port... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 16:48:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395F9F59; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0332B28B7; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76GmiLW011385 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:48:44 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.135]) by LTCFISWMSGHT04.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.15]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:48:43 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: markham breitbach Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Topic: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Index: AQHOkDzj3H/8RokAXEKdt073gODRzpmDtomAgAAhnICABNzRgIAAB/8A Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:48:42 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202006F16@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> In-Reply-To: <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25DDB5A166CEAA4B91D59A6F358C185A@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_07:2013-08-05,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:48:51 -0000 On Aug 6, 2013, at 9:20 AM, markham breitbach wrote: > On 13-08-03 8:04 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >> Actually, there's /usr/share/bsdconfig/media/tcpip.subr >>=20 >>=20 > I don't seem to have that (FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE). Where would I get that = from?=20 >=20 >=20 It's in up-coming 9.2-R (and present 9.2-* snapshots leading up to 9.2-R). You can snatch a copy of the code by installing sysutils/bsdconfig from the= ports tree. However, the port is marked (correctly-so) as requiring FreeBSD 9.0 or high= er. But don't let that stop you... the only reason it's marked as requiring 9.0= is because 9.0 brings in a new dialog(1) implementation. However, if you're interested in the TCP validation code... that will work = on any release. It's only the dialog(1) stuff that won't work on 8.x or old= er. Luckily, it'll be pretty easy to avoid the land-mines. All functions starti= ng with f_dialog_* should be avoided on 8.x or older. So here's the latest package to download (in case you're unsuccessful in ge= tting the port to behave -- afterall, it may just balk at you for not runni= ng 9.x): fetch http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/bsdconfig/bsdconfig-0.9.0.t= bz That's a FreeBSD package. You can download it and say (as root): pkg_add bsdconfig-0.9.0.tbz Just be forewarned (again), on 8.x or older, executing "bsdconfig" will hav= e widely unexpected results (it won't eat your homework, but it may or may = not actually *run*). However, doing the above 2-step (fetch & pkg_add) will bring in the files y= ou're looking for and give you the functionality you're wanting on 8.x. --=20 Devin P.S. I really *can't* make the dialog(1) stuff backward compatible with 8.x= 's (or any older's) version of dialog(1). The new `cdialog' variant that wa= s brought into 9.x to replace the aging dialog(1)/libdialog pair is has a *= lot* of functionality that I depend on. It could potentially take months to= make bsdconfig *fully* backward compatible with 8.x. For now, it's safe if= you just use the libraries and avoid any/all functions beginning with "f_d= ialog_". _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 16:50:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6411F9; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7320128DE; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76Gocf8028143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:50:38 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.135]) by LTCFISWMSGHT06.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:50:37 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Polytropon Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Topic: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Index: AQHOkDzj3H/8RokAXEKdt073gODRzpmDtomAgAAhnICABNzRgIAABo0AgAAB+4A= Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:50:37 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202006F51@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> <20130806184332.ff7f0c4d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130806184332.ff7f0c4d.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4275A066A854F84C96BF2588BA04FBAC@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_07:2013-08-05,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: markham breitbach , Devin Teske , questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:50:42 -0000 On Aug 6, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:20:05 -0600, markham breitbach wrote: >> On 13-08-03 8:04 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: >>> Actually, there's /usr/share/bsdconfig/media/tcpip.subr >>>=20 >>>=20 >> I don't seem to have that (FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE).=20 >> Where would I get that from?=20 >=20 > Maybe from sysutils/bsdconfig in the ports collection? > I have not checked if this specific subroutine file is > part of the port... >=20 Ah, Polytropon beat me ;D And yes... to clarify... the port is a mirror of what's in 9.x base. (howev= er, see my recent notes in a separate reply; TL;DR: port is 9.x only; proce= ed only if you know you don't care about the dialog(1) aspects of the libra= ry code). --=20 Devin >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 17:11:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B18497B for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound1.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E4D129E3 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.68] (cpc2-sgyl30-2-0-cust423.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [80.192.35.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76GwmhV088521 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:58:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) X-Authentication-Warning: outbound.ifdnrg.com: Host cpc2-sgyl30-2-0-cust423.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [80.192.35.168] claimed to be [192.168.100.68] Message-ID: <52012B43.5000000@ifdnrg.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:58:43 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to Fix Port Audit showing ports not installed on a system References: <58b0a130601de49508aa7f7b8c1c9833@dweimer.net> In-Reply-To: <58b0a130601de49508aa7f7b8c1c9833@dweimer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:11:43 -0000 On 06/08/2013 17:25, dweimer wrote: > I have a system that I just recently setup port audit, after realizing > I forgot to install it on the machine. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 17:39:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750BDFBA; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374982B35; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BB13C708; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:39:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r76Hd87a003256; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:39:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:39:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Devin Teske Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Message-Id: <20130806193908.bb4ff02a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202006F51@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> <20130806184332.ff7f0c4d.freebsd@edvax.de> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202006F51@ltcfiswmsgmb21> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: markham breitbach , questions , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:39:13 -0000 On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:50:37 +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: > And yes... to clarify... the port is a mirror of what's in 9.x base. > (however, see my recent notes in a separate reply; TL;DR: port is > 9.x only; proceed only if you know you don't care about the dialog(1) > aspects of the library code). I think it should be relatively unproblematic to fetch the port and only use the subroutines "as is", even if it's just for educational purposes. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 17:46:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A301DC; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F24232BA6; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa02.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76HjsCa015752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:45:54 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.135]) by LTCFISWMSGHT06.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:45:53 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Polytropon Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Topic: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 Thread-Index: AQHOkDzj3H/8RokAXEKdt073gODRzpmDtomAgAAhnICABNzRgIAABo0AgAAB+4CAAA2OAIAAAeIA Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:45:52 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D72020071EE@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> <20130806184332.ff7f0c4d.freebsd@edvax.de> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202006F51@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <20130806193908.bb4ff02a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130806193908.bb4ff02a.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-05_07:2013-08-05,2013-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: markham breitbach , Devin Teske , questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:46:02 -0000 On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:50:37 +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: >> And yes... to clarify... the port is a mirror of what's in 9.x base. >> (however, see my recent notes in a separate reply; TL;DR: port is >> 9.x only; proceed only if you know you don't care about the dialog(1) >> aspects of the library code). >=20 > I think it should be relatively unproblematic to fetch the > port and only use the subroutines "as is", even if it's just > for educational purposes. :-) >=20 Right. Just a warning though, what is "fetched" in ports is actually in the format= of what's in HEAD (read: not in the format of what gets installed). For example, there are things that end up in /usr/share/bsdconfig that aren= 't in the "bsdconfig/share/" source directory (e.g., all the stuff under /u= sr/share/bsdconfig/networking is under the source directory "bsdconfig/netw= orking/share"). This may be counter-intuitive from an "exploratory" view if= looking at the source directory (what's fetched by ports). And since the port Makefile will prevent you from turning that fetch'ed sou= rce directory into an installed software (putting things where they end up)= , it might be easier to grab this pre-built package that I stashed... http://druidbsd.sf.net/download/bsdconfig/bsdconfig-0.9.0.tbz Because then you can say "pkg_add" and everything will be in the right plac= e (/usr/share/bsdconfig/ will be flush with everything and you won't have t= o hunt-and-peck through the source with a "maintainers" view). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 17:55:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C48837C; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markham_breitbach@ssimicro.com) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 072AB2C35; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 17:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.4/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76HstDr062161 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:54:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5201386F.6010205@ssimicro.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:54:55 -0600 From: markham breitbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske Subject: Re: .sh script code to determine IPv4 or IPv6 References: <51FCE9C7.7020407@a1poweruser.com> <20988.61897.78070.312049@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200229A@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <52012235.3050006@ssimicro.com> <20130806184332.ff7f0c4d.freebsd@edvax.de> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7202006F51@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <20130806193908.bb4ff02a.freebsd@edvax.de> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D72020071EE@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D72020071EE@ltcfiswmsgmb21> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:55:03 -0000 I have some scripts that do fairly crude IPv4/6 validation testing. It is generally assumed that the input is coming from someone who knows what they are doing, but even the best of us have fat fingers sometimes :) Having standardized routines for something like this is great! Thanks, -Markham On 13-08-06 11:45 AM, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:50:37 +0000, Teske, Devin wrote: >>> And yes... to clarify... the port is a mirror of what's in 9.x base. >>> (however, see my recent notes in a separate reply; TL;DR: port is >>> 9.x only; proceed only if you know you don't care about the dialog(1) >>> aspects of the library code). >> I think it should be relatively unproblematic to fetch the >> port and only use the subroutines "as is", even if it's just >> for educational purposes. :-) >> > Right. > > Just a warning though, what is "fetched" in ports is actually in the format of what's in HEAD (read: not in the format of what gets installed). > > For example, there are things that end up in /usr/share/bsdconfig that aren't in the "bsdconfig/share/" source directory (e.g., all the stuff under /usr/share/bsdconfig/networking is under the source directory "bsdconfig/networking/share"). This may be counter-intuitive from an "exploratory" view if looking at the source directory (what's fetched by ports). > > And since the port Makefile will prevent you from turning that fetch'ed source directory into an installed software (putting things where they end up), it might be easier to grab this pre-built package that I stashed... > > http://druidbsd.sf.net/download/bsdconfig/bsdconfig-0.9.0.tbz > > Because then you can say "pkg_add" and everything will be in the right place (/usr/share/bsdconfig/ will be flush with everything and you won't have to hunt-and-peck through the source with a "maintainers" view). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 18:23:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED30DA7 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DA022E45 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r76INF1R002151 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:23:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:23:15 -0500 From: dweimer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to Fix Port Audit showing ports not installed on a system Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <52012B43.5000000@ifdnrg.com> References: <58b0a130601de49508aa7f7b8c1c9833@dweimer.net> <52012B43.5000000@ifdnrg.com> Message-ID: <8826af281224e2db334d446a51c11342@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:23:17 -0000 On 08/06/2013 11:58 am, Paul Macdonald wrote: > On 06/08/2013 17:25, dweimer wrote: >> I have a system that I just recently setup port audit, after realizing >> I forgot to install it on the machine. The problem is that it is >> finding vulnerabilities in several ports that are not installed on the >> system. These may have been installed at one point and removed. >> Firefox is one of the ones listed, I know that it was on the system >> previously, but was removed a few months back. portmaster -l and pkg >> info don't list it as installed, but port audit shows: >> firefox-20.0,1. Where would portaudit be picking up these ports from? >> Is there anyway to reset its database? >> > rm -R /var/db/portaudit/ > > then run portaudit -Fda > > > -- Already tried that, but that data only contains the list of known vulnerabilities, not the installed ports/packages. Perhaps, its not using pkgng I discovered if I do a pkg info command I get the correct list of installed ports and packages. If I do a pkg_info I get a much larger list showing everything as corrupted. ... pkg_info: the package info for package 'fftw3-3.3.3_1' is corrupt pkg_info: the package info for package 'filelight-4.10.1' is corrupt pkg_info: the package info for package 'firefox-20.0,1' is corrupt pkg_info: the package info for package 'fixesproto-5.0' is corrupt pkg_info: the package info for package 'flac-1.2.1_3' is corrupt pkg_info: the package info for package 'flex-2.5.37_1' is corrupt ... Of course I have WITH_PKGNG="YES" in the make.conf, and I believe that has been there ever since the server was built. Is my best option to get the correct list from pkg info use rm -r /var/db/pkg/* to clear everything out and then reinstall all of the ports? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 19:55:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0394F296 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 731452284 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r76JtR9r035683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:55:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r76JtR9r035683 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r76JtR9r035683; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <520154A4.4040709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:55:16 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to Fix Port Audit showing ports not installed on a system References: <58b0a130601de49508aa7f7b8c1c9833@dweimer.net> <52012B43.5000000@ifdnrg.com> <8826af281224e2db334d446a51c11342@dweimer.net> In-Reply-To: <8826af281224e2db334d446a51c11342@dweimer.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FOb8PdlJhd0lXMunOlv47SppjjLQ0kEm5" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:55:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FOb8PdlJhd0lXMunOlv47SppjjLQ0kEm5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/08/2013 19:23, dweimer wrote: > Of course I have WITH_PKGNG=3D"YES" in the make.conf, and I believe tha= t > has been there ever since the server was built. Is my best option to > get the correct list from pkg info use rm -r /var/db/pkg/* to clear > everything out and then reinstall all of the ports? If you've had WITH_PKGNG=3D"YES" ever since the server was built then you= shouldn't have any of the old-style pkg_tools entries in /var/db/pkg. Unless, that is, you've been using pkg_add(1) directly. Don't do that. You just end up with a complete mess. Remember folks -- pkgng is like getting married. Once you go with pkgng, you're not meant to dally with other package tools, but to stay faithful to pkgng from henceforth. I hope you've got the old-style pkg_tools per-package subdirectories in /var/db/pkg because either (i) you used to use pkg_tools and you ran pkg2ng to convert or (ii) you've been using portmaster, in which case those sub-directories only /look/ like the result of what pkg_tools generates, but are really just a place for portmaster to stash a few thin= gs. If those sub-directories contain files called thing like +CONTENTS or +COMMENT or other names beginning with '+' then you do have a messed up mixture of old pkg_tools and pkgng. First: remove all the subdirectories but *not* local.sqlite or repo.sqlite -- those are rather important bits of pkgng. Then you can force a reinstall of all packages by pkg upgrade -f Obviusly, you'll need pkg(8) configured to use a repo with all the appropriate packages available. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Installed in /usr/local/libexec/hp-network # exec /usr/libexec/lpr/lpf "$@" | /usr/local/libexec/netprint 192.168.1.105 9100 ----------------------- my /usr/local/libexec/netprint entry: ----------------------- !/usr/bin/perl -w # # netprint - Text filter for printer attached to network # Installed in /usr/local/libexec/netprint # $#ARGV eq 1 || die "Usage: $0 "; $printer_host = $ARGV[0]; $printer_port = $ARGV[1]; use Socket; $protocol = getprotobyname('tcp'); $address = inet_aton("192.168.1.105"); $sockaddr = sockaddr_in($printer_port, $address); socket(PRINTER, PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, $protocol) || die "Can't create TCP/IP stream socket: $!"; connect(PRINTER, $sockaddr) || die "Can't contact $printer_host: $!"; while () { print PRINTER; } exit 0; ----------------------- Now my /var/log/lpd-errs is empty and in spool directory I have following after running command lptest 20 5 | lpr -P HP : content of /var/spool/hp total 16 -rw-r--r-- 1 root juris 4 Aug 6 21:55 .seq -rw-rw---- 1 daemon juris 70 Aug 6 21:55 cfA014laptops -rw-rw---- 1 root juris 605 Aug 6 21:55 dfA014laptops -rw-rw-r-- 1 root juris 0 Aug 6 21:55 errs.ukc0YLC -rw-rw-r-- 1 root juris 5 Aug 6 21:55 lock My printer is not responding in any way, it keeps on flashing Ready. it is on the internal network having ip 192.168.1.105 thanks Juris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 20:08:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63956621 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from campaign_28566862+zco.171fe0c086186b5_1186b84d4414b5a@zcsend.net) Received: from sender54.zcsend.net (sender54.zcsend.net [74.201.84.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489DD233C for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=zcp768; d=zcsend.net; h=Date:From:Sender:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; i=campaign_28566862@zcsend.net; bh=dBzeqZTzSUFeS3Km/Qv/xdw2s5k=; b=HeP2lRC/m+HUwBJS9m7Q/cbTDNtjnYBObprTF8g64A/ftAV+2Z1jS+kyVfGOV2zZ3OAWBbOfVU70 2rjKzVM3zRXdlvyMvdxSIzgQIG+xU6GEhxRfjFE6ObkO+kXHRrpE DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=zcp768; d=zcsend.net; b=udLcQ2XkwCj2xlgIC2lUqprsjydAbLjBdftAtLKM5mweqNIX8Z02aV3XELfgD/xtcl+pBawOlwxn /6cUO7knsVpU16j32oKKh/85f5iDM0GP7AjQfwKTXKrBGxO4jo/x; Received: from [172.29.252.248] (172.29.252.248) by sender54.zcsend.net id h05bqi1etbom for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:08:01 -0700 (envelope-from ) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "ImporterDeals.com " Sender: campaign_28566862@zcsend.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Update your profile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2254_1936691664.1375819681377" X-Zoho-SID: zohocampaigns.11287eca43f037.zco.171fe0c086186b5.1186b84d4414b5a X-Mailer: Zoho Campaigns X-Report-Abuse: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: noreply@zohocampaigns.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:08:09 -0000 ------=_Part_2254_1936691664.1375819681377 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Update Contact Details Hello! 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Is my best option to >> get the correct list from pkg info use rm -r /var/db/pkg/* to clear >> everything out and then reinstall all of the ports? > > If you've had WITH_PKGNG="YES" ever since the server was built then you > shouldn't have any of the old-style pkg_tools entries in /var/db/pkg. > > Unless, that is, you've been using pkg_add(1) directly. Don't do that. > You just end up with a complete mess. Remember folks -- pkgng is like > getting married. Once you go with pkgng, you're not meant to dally > with > other package tools, but to stay faithful to pkgng from henceforth. > > I hope you've got the old-style pkg_tools per-package subdirectories in > /var/db/pkg because either (i) you used to use pkg_tools and you ran > pkg2ng to convert or (ii) you've been using portmaster, in which case > those sub-directories only /look/ like the result of what pkg_tools > generates, but are really just a place for portmaster to stash a few > things. > > If those sub-directories contain files called thing like +CONTENTS or > +COMMENT or other names beginning with '+' then you do have a messed up > mixture of old pkg_tools and pkgng. > > First: remove all the subdirectories but *not* local.sqlite or > repo.sqlite -- those are rather important bits of pkgng. > Then you can force a reinstall of all packages by > > pkg upgrade -f > > Obviusly, you'll need pkg(8) configured to use a repo with all the > appropriate packages available. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Thanks for the info, I have never used pkg_add, everything has been installed via ports and portmaster, but it is possible that some ports were installed prior to having the with pkgng added in make.conf, and that something happened in the pk2ng conversion. I thought I had built this machine after I had been running with pkgng, but perhaps this one was built right as I was switching over to it. I had originally built this machine with Xorg and KDE to use virtual box GUI, and once I became comfortable with the commands, switched to vboxheadless and removed all the GUI components. Which is where all the extra ports that were removed came from. I have removed the sub directories, now portaudit doesn't show any vulnerabilities in non existent ports, pkg info displays the correct installed packages, and portmaster -l matches the installed ports that pkg info displays. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 6 20:41:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69ACD20 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F8042492 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 20:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r76KHJ8f040717; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:17:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r76KHJfS040714; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:17:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:17:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Juris Kaminskis Subject: Re: Setup HP Laserjet 1120m over network with LPD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:17:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:41:36 -0000 On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, Juris Kaminskis wrote: > after several trials and errors and reading through FreeBSD handbook I am > at dead end on how to proceed further, hope someone can guide me. Are you sure about that model number? I can't find specs for a Laserjet 1120M. There is a Laserjet M1120. It's a Winprinter. The file entries are confusing and use some non-base programs. You may be mixing the base system's lpr/lpd with the CUPS versions of the same names from ports. For plain lpr/lpd, I have this article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 02:48:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF624CA5 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 02:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdavidlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E27A2062 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 02:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id xn12so2609244obc.6 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:48:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2KiSXYejwUg+pZwqPqgBnB1CKFzcJBDxkBYxtWSpbaY=; b=XL/wmm8xo8p0x/ZwEN2POsehYFovM75vOa26qYjlma672PfpoE/qA8pUxD3/6kO2T0 Jg9H1jBEeU0sqtTmLk76yR107aa+HI+aCYp+7oDw0xIUkMlz6T/u7vH7erus88l8VKiX eQhiOfB96tZ7cMiBi8zieiLf2fYzgte2or8Ea+OHP0QBlvzVWff1mN22lK/1Nm5DQ89f aWVwfYJwnhsET3FnQfRND4N8WyTa3XdpylPIqn2xUcBX0Al3BcL5rpRPfd7ny86FcX4r fv2iKAXtEwdVNY1baxwACa/GE5SeoSOFIC7wC3R/jBNl4W0WYgo2eLHTgjDfvW4M3giq F1ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.199.5 with SMTP id eq5mr87318icb.1.1375843698862; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: jdavidlists@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.150.196 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:48:18 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: C2ZEVivH-OvOK3f2o484eQaZ_wo Message-ID: Subject: Terrible disk performance with LSI / FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 From: J David To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 02:48:20 -0000 We have a machine running 9.2-RC1 that's getting terrible disk I/O performance. Its performance has always been pretty bad, but it didn't really become clear how bad until we did a zpool replace on one of the drives and realized it was going to take 3 weeks to rebuild a <1TB drive. The hardware specs are: - 2 x Xeon L5420 - 32 GiB RAM - LSI Logic SAS 1068E - 2 x 32GB SSD's - 6 x 1TB Western Digital RE3 7200RPM SATA The LSI controller has the most recent firmware I'm aware of (6.36.00.00 / 1.33.00.00 dated 2011.08.24), is in IT mode, and appears to be working fine: mpt0 Adapter: Board Name: USASLP-L8i Board Assembly: USASLP-L8i Chip Name: C1068E Chip Revision: B3 RAID Levels: none mpt0 Configuration: 0 volumes, 8 drives drive da0 (30G) ONLINE SATA drive da1 (29G) ONLINE SATA drive da2 (931G) ONLINE SATA drive da3 (931G) ONLINE SATA drive da4 (931G) ONLINE SATA drive da5 (931G) ONLINE SATA drive da6 (931G) ONLINE SATA drive da7 (931G) ONLINE SATA The eight drives are configured as ZIL, L2ARC on SSD and a six drive raidz2 on the spinning disks. We did a ZFS replace on the last drive in the line, and the resilver is proceeding at less than 800k/sec. extended device statistics device r/s w/s kr/s kw/s qlen svc_t %b da0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0 0.9 0 da1 0.0 8.2 0.0 19.9 0 0.1 0 da2 125.6 23.0 768.2 40.5 4 33.0 88 da3 126.6 23.1 769.0 41.3 4 32.3 89 da4 126.0 24.0 768.5 42.7 4 32.1 88 da5 125.9 22.0 768.2 40.1 4 31.6 87 da6 124.0 22.0 766.6 39.9 5 31.4 84 da7 0.0 136.9 0.0 801.3 0 0.6 4 The system has plenty of free RAM, is 99.7% idle, has nothing else going on, and runs like a one-legged dog. There are no error messages or any sign of a problem anywhere, other than the really terrible performance. (When not rebuilding, it does light NFS duty. That performance is similarly bad, but has never really mattered.) Similar systems running Solaris put out 10x these numbers claiming 30% busy instead of 90% busy. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I could troubleshoot this further? At this point, I'm kind of at a loss as to where to go from here. My goal is to try to phase out the Solaris machines, but this is kind of a roadblock. Thanks for any advice! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 04:45:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF26148 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 04:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juris.kaminskis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4BA125BC for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 04:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l18so1079628wgh.35 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=onyY9nBj73R+Thk3+vBlrE0YObflgWZ28NMQETJAN/8=; b=jRs+F0j3SZlSjgU46fvyD3ULOEJWRfNBxw1gVn9uL7akmwlOX9npgVcm8uO9DBWs3o KwKo6oHh2NjytDabIPYVBpnynMrABbzPuYXJ7xL1UlqmdbwymW8dr4sxlsqeTgAPljeL 1jG5VGPT7c3CKSSC4MFdSmuF5/6XOi1y7Ik1+X1ESaUjEeKsO66fnY49o/YxCq2fZJH5 9osGv6QNoJGHFZUJ5bxIzEaTk4cpSglGoMrevJful8MMVWhGYe7vBXmN4QXhi7kgdE52 g4VO6ojOOUi/w7IE1e4zQ30ivKpmgHdab/+sEMbXZbBGAYPC/wmEPigG4HmhZGv0Pj9H 1UxQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.183.180 with SMTP id en20mr939504wic.18.1375850715320; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.83.225 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.83.225 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 07:45:15 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Setup HP Laserjet 1120m over network with LPD From: Juris Kaminskis To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 04:45:18 -0000 Model number: HP LaserJet M1120n MFP I try your how-to in few days as it seems I need to redo whole config. I will post my results, thanks 2013. gada 6. aug. 23:17 "Warren Block" rakst=EEja: > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, Juris Kaminskis wrote: > > after several trials and errors and reading through FreeBSD handbook I a= m >> at dead end on how to proceed further, hope someone can guide me. >> > > Are you sure about that model number? I can't find specs for a Laserjet > 1120M. There is a Laserjet M1120. It's a Winprinter. > > The file entries are confusing and use some non-base programs. You may b= e > mixing the base system's lpr/lpd with the CUPS versions of the same names > from ports. > > For plain lpr/lpd, I have this article: > http://www.wonkity.com/~**wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.**html > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 04:57:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53319246 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 04:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07E372628 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 04:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r774vR2B043250; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:57:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r774vRJl043247; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:57:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:57:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Juris Kaminskis Subject: Re: Setup HP Laserjet 1120m over network with LPD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3512871622-824443985-1375851447=:43216" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:57:27 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 04:57:29 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3512871622-824443985-1375851447=:43216 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-13; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 7 Aug 2013, Juris Kaminskis wrote: > 2013. gada 6. aug. 23:17 "Warren Block" rakst?ja: > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, Juris Kaminskis wrote: > > after several trials and errors and reading through FreeBSD handbook I am > at dead end on how to proceed further, hope someone can guide me. > > > Are you sure about that model number?  I can't find specs for a Laserjet 1120M.  There is a Laserjet M1120.  It's a Winprinter. > > The file entries are confusing and use some non-base programs.  You may be mixing the base system's lpr/lpd with the CUPS versions of the same names from ports. > > For plain lpr/lpd, I have this article: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html > Model number: HP LaserJet M1120n MFP > > I try your how-to in few days as it seems I need to redo whole config. I will post my results, thanks The Laserjet M1120 is a winprinter, which means it does not understand plain text or common PDLs like PCL or PostScript. There is print/foo2zjs in ports, but it's meant to be used with CUPS. I have not tested it. --3512871622-824443985-1375851447=:43216-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 05:12:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4AB376 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 05:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA9126BE for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 05:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A4C3C74E; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 07:12:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r775CqZo001993; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 07:12:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 07:12:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Setup HP Laserjet 1120m over network with LPD Message-Id: <20130807071252.af7e26f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Juris Kaminskis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 05:12:59 -0000 On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:57:27 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 7 Aug 2013, Juris Kaminskis wrote: >=20 > > 2013. gada 6. aug. 23:17 "Warren Block" rakst?ja: > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, Juris Kaminskis wrote: > > > > after several trials and errors and reading through FreeBSD= handbook I am > > at dead end on how to proceed further, hope someone can gui= de me. > >=20 > > > > Are you sure about that model number? =A0I can't find specs for a= Laserjet 1120M. =A0There is a Laserjet M1120. =A0It's a Winprinter. > > > > The file entries are confusing and use some non-base programs. = =A0You may be mixing the base system's lpr/lpd with the CUPS versions of th= e same names from ports. > > > > For plain lpr/lpd, I have this article: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html >=20 > > Model number: HP LaserJet M1120n MFP > >=20 > > I try your how-to in few days as it seems I need to redo whole config. = I will post my results, thanks >=20 > The Laserjet M1120 is a winprinter, which means it does not understand=20 > plain text or common PDLs like PCL or PostScript. There is=20 > print/foo2zjs in ports, but it's meant to be used with CUPS. I have not= =20 > tested it. It seems that a HPLIP interface is available for this printer, so it should probably work with CUPS and _maybe_ with the normal means of printing (FreeBSD printer spooler plus a printer filter that turns PS, the _default_ output language for printing, into the specific non-standard language that printer wants to be spoken to in). http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_m1120_mfp.= html http://foo2xqx.rkkda.com/ I'm using a similar approach for a terrible Samsung color laserprinter (foo2qpdl-wrapper in my specific case) which I could easily integrate with the already mentioned CUPS, as well as the normal system's printer subsystem. However, I also have not tested if it works for the M1120, because I prefer to use printers that work, that's why I don't own such a thing. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Oh no. :( Cheers,Aurelien From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 08:28:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D520D34C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 08:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpielorz_lst@tdx.co.uk) Received: from mail.tdx.com (mail.tdx.com [62.13.128.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFD02450 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 08:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk (storm.tdx.co.uk [62.13.130.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.tdx.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/) with ESMTP id r778SPER072768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 09:28:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 09:28:27 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Static Jail ID's (JID's) for use with IPFW? Message-ID: <6AEEAD32A5BF3013464C98A1@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 08:28:35 -0000 Hi, I have a number of jailed systems running - and I've been setting up ipfw rules for them. This is on FBSD 9.1. 'ipfw' lets you match on traffic to/from a Jail ID (JID) - however every time jails get started / stopped their JID changes [thus breaking the firewall rules]. I can't see anywhere to 'statically' configure a JID to a Jail (i.e. in /etc/rc.conf). Is this possible? / How? Thanks, -Karl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 11:43:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446A3237 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D26DE24F7 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r77BNi7u043086; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:23:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <52022E40.8050007@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:23:44 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130710 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Pielorz Subject: Re: Static Jail ID's (JID's) for use with IPFW? References: <6AEEAD32A5BF3013464C98A1@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6AEEAD32A5BF3013464C98A1@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:43:43 -0000 On 07/08/2013 09:28, Karl Pielorz wrote: > I have a number of jailed systems running - and I've been setting up > ipfw rules for them. > > This is on FBSD 9.1. > > 'ipfw' lets you match on traffic to/from a Jail ID (JID) - however every > time jails get started / stopped their JID changes [thus breaking the > firewall rules]. > > I can't see anywhere to 'statically' configure a JID to a Jail (i.e. in > /etc/rc.conf). I don't think the old /etc/rc.conf way of handling jails lets you do it, but the latest version of jail(8) introduced /etc/jail.conf and you should be able to add "jid = ;" parameters in there. I've no idea what will happen if your choice conflicts with an automatically generated jid, so you'll either have to make sure all jails have fixed jids, or choose a suitably high range for fixed ones and hope you never generate too many unfixed jids. -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 11:50:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC714A7 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mailch-2.name-services.com (mailch-2.name-services.com [98.124.252.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855D9255B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailch.name-services.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailch.name-services.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A28C64BD7E; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender-Id: 173.88.196.224 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (sjl0vwsmail09.prod.dm.local [10.7.17.59]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.23); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:50:12 GMT X-Pool-Id: 3 Received: from [10.0.10.1] (cpe-173-88-196-224.neo.res.rr.com [173.88.196.224]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 04:50:00 -0700 Message-ID: <52023467.4030609@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 07:49:59 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Pielorz Subject: Re: Static Jail ID's (JID's) for use with IPFW? References: <6AEEAD32A5BF3013464C98A1@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6AEEAD32A5BF3013464C98A1@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:50:17 -0000 Karl Pielorz wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a number of jailed systems running - and I've been setting up > ipfw rules for them. > > This is on FBSD 9.1. > > 'ipfw' lets you match on traffic to/from a Jail ID (JID) - however every > time jails get started / stopped their JID changes [thus breaking the > firewall rules]. > > I can't see anywhere to 'statically' configure a JID to a Jail (i.e. in > /etc/rc.conf). > > Is this possible? / How? > > Thanks, > > -Karl Use the jails IP address in the hosts IPFW rules. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 14:45:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC83FBC for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpielorz_lst@tdx.co.uk) Received: from mail.tdx.com (mail.tdx.com [62.13.128.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642DC2094 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk (storm.tdx.co.uk [62.13.130.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.tdx.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/) with ESMTP id r77EjA0O003171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:45:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:45:12 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Static Jail ID's (JID's) for use with IPFW? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <52022E40.8050007@qeng-ho.org> References: <6AEEAD32A5BF3013464C98A1@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> <52022E40.8050007@qeng-ho.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:45:12 -0000 --On 07 August 2013 12:23 +0100 Arthur Chance wrote: > I don't think the old /etc/rc.conf way of handling jails lets you do it, > but the latest version of jail(8) introduced /etc/jail.conf and you > should be able to add "jid = ;" parameters in there. Thanks - I'll check that out... > I've no idea what will happen if your choice conflicts with an > automatically generated jid, so you'll either have to make sure all jails > have fixed jids, or choose a suitably high range for fixed ones and hope > you never generate too many unfixed jids. I'll be making them all static - just to avoid that problem ;) Cheers, -Karl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 16:22:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885DA28C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixuser2000-fbsd@yahoo.com) Received: from nm35-vm2.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (nm35-vm2.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.151.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB1E62698 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [106.10.166.112] by nm35.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2013 16:21:58 -0000 Received: from [106.10.151.155] by tm1.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2013 16:21:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2013 16:21:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 810891.71790.bm@omp1009.mail.sg3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24113 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2013 16:21:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1375892517; bh=1jftmOQVNFU7FbgyifPrd64iMb/WtDJa8DdePoVhEjs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DG9qVvWLthRuEmiWcV6Cbyj66MvuVYVeXCKxK4ncBInSJq6vQPvthFiaIpyNHx0PTPDoB7atXk7qSMNjHgPOu3GvbCldOl7mb0QyVYjlv5tQL0y8Jyclq2dhexrcRdbK9sgj/SLV01Y5B958hDlv9qKYbEYz7Ts0wkTHGKpgkV4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=w6dUxbv8nZZiXZ3oG3mil91T+1gW+uUrQe6LRc8oVhmoqB1AqTY0LAQi4FoeUxCRb2RRnvh9b95O8kvTTE0ex4TczSqrwj3MTerq5Xi/ORQTAMQDsRZfj645fDidDA/llzywDW8dt5wiqlSggiEu+1xDuHwuCMpWhQnNvrC8A/0=; X-YMail-OSG: FzVtiMwVM1kVxvoOV0r32nOYR1vVd_CLthbeJ3pvVgT8Xp. js4ydjDcCwLRBIlY8IOXdsNa4.bKq66zNLIEt37xEHXNu4fM2TPBhQZSRAlP e5FDTaWia3N99VopEsU9.DsUm7Hv5x9gh3hYKZUGNsM2PLyCN6Z78Tj.1gmE RO.N8g8kbkx.PHFDES.4Hzy758GVzB3IVBp9zRbeM8Q6Z6JVunz.fb.lauvL 9gdRQECB3HogogADPp9yVghGF6tnGn47NRexRm8x2q9Rjs3dn_4x7A0omQua cgQL7IMcbC8qufX7v9qKsVu.4tkSO.f7xMcX.7PnXQDVZnQqqhqqWWST2i.T cHcwkJiuf9E2obJSw7AvRR9w0wBbmooc50aWGX3R79IFAAz.vcXnxF7_DgVs ikUX2DKrL.FYvHiUw60Bt749Q99R704IqsOQbGB71xdAS4SQuSHnxKg_Xqw9 J_B13D2T3Opu7Ah46VQELZ5NDE2VzRehhi_Ny0vdcz6uDifecpVUqSy1hc_g FpuT1hYiFk1O3Z_Jc6B7dvrPzjG8Lr7LWruXHI.cXtB.T57c36RNqgUDLiVM RSVBKzYtJEZVN.dKX_9TUqZrUBHEDt9MTZav3yUWDEdCYH9Shn1mrUQm8Edo a59Jq..kp.Q.KBk_VBOKaHM1XQXbKlelcnruXfaGH Received: from [103.245.47.20] by web190704.mail.sg3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 00:21:57 SGT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, CgoKCgo.X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPiBGcm9tOiBhdXJmYWxpZW4gPGF1cmZhbGllbkBnbWFpbC5jb20.Cj5UbzogTWlrZSBKZWF5cyA8bWlrZS5qZWF5c0Byb2dlcnMuY29tPiAKPkNjOiBtZXhhc0BicmlzLmFjLnVrOyBmcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZyAKPlNlbnQ6IFRodXJzZGF5LCAxIEF1Z3VzdCAyMDEzIDk6MjUgUE0KPlN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBsZWFybgo.IAo.Cj4KPk9uIEF1ZyAxLCAyMDEzLCBhdCA4OjMxIEFNLCBNaWtlIEplYXlzIHdyb3RlOgo.Cj4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.152.567 References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> <8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1375892517.24063.YahooMailNeo@web190704.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:21:57 +0800 (SGT) From: Quark Subject: Re: learn To: aurfalien , Mike Jeays In-Reply-To: <8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "mexas@bris.ac.uk" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Quark List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:22:06 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: aurfalien =0A>To: Mike Jeays =0A>Cc: mexas@bri= s.ac.uk; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =0A>Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013 9:= 25 PM=0A>Subject: Re: learn=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Mik= e Jeays wrote:=0A>=0A>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST)=0A>> Anton = Shterenlikht wrote:=0A>> =0A>>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 1= 4:29:25 +0200=0A>>>> From: herbert langhans =0A>>>> To:= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A>>>> Subject: Re: learn=0A>>> =0A>>>> The = handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost=0A>>>> t= here. You know that, corebug.=0A>>> =0A>>> I completely disagree.=0A>>> =0A= >>> The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project.=0A>>> In = particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation=0A>>> effort I've se= en. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me=0A>>> start using FreeBSD in t= he first place. In about 2003 I tried=0A>>> several linux distros, and got = completely lost. The available=0A>>> documentation for linux, at least at t= hat time, was not designed=0A>>> for a novice, certainly not at my level. I= n contrast, the=0A>>> FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to ins= tall=0A>>> and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9= .=0A>>> =0A>>> Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot.=0A>>>= The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource=0A>>> I would recomme= nd to a FreeBSD novice.=0A>>> =0A>>> Anton=0A>>> __________________________= _____________________=0A>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A>>= > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A>>> To unsu= bscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>> = =0A>> Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started using= FreeBSD in 1997,=0A>> at version 2.2.something.=0A>> =0A>> Greg Lehey's bo= ok "The Complete FreeBSD" is also excellent, and available as a free=0A>> d= ownload - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or purchases= .=0A>> =0A>> http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/=0A>=0A>I sugges= t downloading the USB image, combine that with Googling and bayam, off you = go.=0A>=0A>Of course, supplement with RTFMing which should always be at you= r side and all will be well.=0A>=0A>And lastly, having membership on this f= ine list is key.=A0 The FreeBSD community is indeed grand.=0A>=0A>Hell, I m= ay even get a hoody from the store :)=0A=0Ahey, where are the hoodies??? I = found for mozilla & openSUSE on their respective sites very good looking ho= odies, but nor FreeBSD=0AI won't hesitate to order one for reasonable price= of 20-30 USD=0A=0A=0A>=0A>- aurf=0A>______________________________________= _________=0A>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A>http://lists.fre= ebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A>To unsubscribe, send any mai= l to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A>=0A> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 17:43:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C5BEF6 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EBC72BE8 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r77HhhqI028021 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:43:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52028751.3070608@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:43:45 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Magazine References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:43:52 -0000 On 07/08/2013 13:19, Kamil Sobieraj wrote: > Hello, > > I am from BSD Magazine (BSDMag.org), devoted to BSD operating systems. > I would like to ask if you are interested in contributing an article? > Current theme is: *Day-to-day BSD administration*. > I believe that your experience will enrich our magazine and bring valuable > knowledge to our readers. > In return I would like to offer an advertisement of your company and its > products (if any). > Would you be interested in that? Please let me know. > > Regards, > Kamil Sobieraj > No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money. - Samuel Johnson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 17:52:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF922BC for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2B962C87 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00262110A for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:52:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=6tYUNXCTKASjmUaWO0H9uqtekCo=; b=rCyv4 bjkbs5U3llhrF0UsoSvbw4bWC1nbNGiuzFiW8yu4QluXQHB8KA7m14ZHs0aoh6jg clRIsAfg+KgDUTpLmGEsGghr7dpzkftmQbPOBXt28sJFrPa9HoCnaEvcrs1/wPL5 zvHNNS7P0aHZz/bjsCnpws/uZyCXjwACBV3kOo= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 937CBB02231; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1375897956.8269.7199647.3BC8AB7E@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: hcxe1tpVYRwp2JT4VCIb2oYUSCPKdCbU96yr/Nz6A/R4 1375897956 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-d9f253bf Subject: Re: BSD Magazine Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:52:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:52:38 -0000 Isn't BSDMag now owned by iXSystems (purchased as part of BSDMall?)? And this seems odd / unprofessional to just blindly post on the -questions mailing list From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 18:02:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D2B55D for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22f.google.com (mail-pa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 370772D35 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 18:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kl13so2405302pab.20 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:02:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=XqbdI9sSjuOpMemK0UKGRzMSWXhLNw/xAS//8wh8NUE=; b=cgcnTyCDablv81zzt+jkS+uubJggdy4aQ3PtVTqUfni4sBv1sJGD+tzwPbBnauMnWx +beoGFULeGtBkGpJaNA1yPDEN2Sr05czMzEWBdB/rfitfMZD9YwmAJR4YbjPGFwBB2iE B+GR5xOyFf+7lvTwRgISgswAYNHmxp2IedylsBSca1kmfi8vypm/P0PjJnkHTK1YwRwq 47NHOsAMPU456nsM7rKbcVZJTQ8Oo8R6SBw5a6ILVBi88bRdcHWCK61s5OyMGRUkTNKA nVmuR0+9eBTndegcnpuGHtKsByERnXiMkgKOUp606Bf+z+FOwqHAGhKAgLAMd3um7dni /0yQ== X-Received: by 10.66.142.42 with SMTP id rt10mr1978787pab.1.1375898527843; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from briankrusicw.logan.tv ([64.17.255.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 7sm11697902paf.22.2013.08.07.11.02.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: learn Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: <1375892517.24063.YahooMailNeo@web190704.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:02:03 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> <8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> <1375892517.24063.YahooMailNeo@web190704.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> To: Quark X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: Mike Jeays , "mexas@bris.ac.uk" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:02:08 -0000 You've the zip and pull over hoodies; = https://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/scan/fi=3Dprod_bsd/tf=3Dlist_order/= sf=3Dcategory/se=3Dshirts?id=3DdInoZShj&mv_pc=3D12 Then you have this site which looks to have a slightly better shopping = cart; http://www.cafepress.com/+freebsd+sweatshirts-hoodies Unsure if any purchases go to supporting FreeBSD as it looks like they = may not :( However one can, at worst case show there love of the OS to the world :) At best case FreeBSD.org gets some monayz from this. - aurf On Aug 7, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Quark wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> ________________________________ >> From: aurfalien >> To: Mike Jeays =20 >> Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 >> Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013 9:25 PM >> Subject: Re: learn >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Mike Jeays wrote: >>=20 >>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) >>> Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>>=20 >>>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 >>>>> From: herbert langhans >>>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> Subject: Re: learn >>>>=20 >>>>> The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get = lost >>>>> there. You know that, corebug. >>>>=20 >>>> I completely disagree. >>>>=20 >>>> The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project. >>>> In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation >>>> effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me >>>> start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried >>>> several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available >>>> documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed >>>> for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the >>>> FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install >>>> and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9. >>>>=20 >>>> Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot. >>>> The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource >>>> I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice. >>>>=20 >>>> Anton >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>=20 >>> Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started = using FreeBSD in 1997, >>> at version 2.2.something. >>>=20 >>> Greg Lehey's book "The Complete FreeBSD" is also excellent, and = available as a free >>> download - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or = purchases. >>>=20 >>> http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ >>=20 >> I suggest downloading the USB image, combine that with Googling and = bayam, off you go. >>=20 >> Of course, supplement with RTFMing which should always be at your = side and all will be well. >>=20 >> And lastly, having membership on this fine list is key. The FreeBSD = community is indeed grand. >>=20 >> Hell, I may even get a hoody from the store :) >=20 > hey, where are the hoodies??? I found for mozilla & openSUSE on their = respective sites very good looking hoodies, but nor FreeBSD > I won't hesitate to order one for reasonable price of 20-30 USD >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> - aurf >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 19:07:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318C415 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ea0-f182.google.com (mail-ea0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87D592180 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id o10so1020117eaj.27 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:07:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1SfKkSlMK6yc+c9brNmSbqJgBtKr6rmr6EFctElkeCQ=; b=JSOUB4lMSyjhxmDpbzjsFi48UceJcU9fQ1iWnPQdRi0y5IwxSB1dZpINS5swwXBmSH TFzUcoWWCLfmHZ+Zv1MSc+YzIVbWJf9EHMv33BeeVDdLmzsDtE7RfkVBTvSV4Cm+yKC2 ZemnOKWiJsY7lj71Qc+pbd0guIeMc+JT+7Kl7iXuHePowEAqgZAnoOhE8EWjtPKwrG1y N/xB/8U2CclAkmaPbaeBNtAkqe622Z+VS6oTwX61tP81crgWZkGIvXeWg+Bi83mVM2CE e0cP/c4nDSecTUKAqCYNXkO3+xZKMV9iWqmwdF1M7p3VJi+yXYAmvELFgG/GVm6nvHja yVaw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlvYHWClFMdej2rO+tZygxYiXSPeLddOkrloia3tFwBMOi5hOvCrSAugKsMpdgsdNT9g7Fj X-Received: by 10.15.51.202 with SMTP id n50mr4468340eew.39.1375902425773; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (p5DDDAFEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [93.221.175.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a6sm138427eei.10.2013.08.07.12.07.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52029AD5.7080808@cordula.ws> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 21:07:01 +0200 From: cpghost User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130711 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: Tablet PCs and FreeBSD? References: <51FFF2A8.5050201@cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:07:14 -0000 On 08/05/13 23:07, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Adam Vande More > wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM, cpghost > wrote: > > Hello list, > > what's the status of FreeBSD/arm w.r.t. Tablet PCs? > Is there ANY tablet out there that managed to at > least boot FreeBSD? (I'm not talking about Xorg etc, > just a simple console with FreeBSD base system would > suffice for now -- even NetBSD would be great) > > I'm looking for a Tablet PC that runs Linux/arm (not > just Android), and it would be nice if that model was > also able to run FreeBSD; and if not now, so in the > foreseeable future. > > Any suggestions w.r.t. models? > > > All I can recall was this thread(read whole thing): > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-November/246404.html > > > Also asking on freebsd-arm might get you farther. Ah, thanks for the hint! -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 19:15:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3452698 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesgosnell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x22c.google.com (mail-ea0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22E5C221B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 19:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so1017182ead.17 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:15:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iza1jNlM62LrrDp53FakvHoew6Y2pM4/KopalNq881o=; b=vCAJQ+CH0NvW4Jd/701VqgzhXt+rqC5+XemHiE8FKPs0EtoW9+F3gf/me+0iLkC+8k K4Vfhyrvt7kYo4AJB3uwuqwRwyaLnarbpDId/lBD/hrMILEyoK0my4iNbYZ+/DrVgPwe I5wUybtZEsd6It6BHvRUZb1hzXWO3tErM6O5Flu62mqBY5K9/Xbda4m3AGa/aPRlWXku kxogvvB+x42EFl3ION6vELqZTtg1e9nLVPuMe97Wyd46ks++lf+U6pdT+e4G93rhO8KW 1CJFGfvuelVUmSKZuOrWsZotljYpTvyAfMPcdpktsyJOeDNNUpZGzjnq/bnP+LZR+zxS w7qw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.9.129 with SMTP id 1mr4568198eet.59.1375902947297; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.195.196 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:15:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:15:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Terrible disk performance with LSI / FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 From: James Gosnell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:15:50 -0000 Maybe one of your drives is bad, so it's constantly doing error correction? On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:48 PM, J David wrote: > We have a machine running 9.2-RC1 that's getting terrible disk I/O > performance. Its performance has always been pretty bad, but it > didn't really become clear how bad until we did a zpool replace on one > of the drives and realized it was going to take 3 weeks to rebuild a > <1TB drive. > > The hardware specs are: > - 2 x Xeon L5420 > - 32 GiB RAM > - LSI Logic SAS 1068E > - 2 x 32GB SSD's > - 6 x 1TB Western Digital RE3 7200RPM SATA > > The LSI controller has the most recent firmware I'm aware of > (6.36.00.00 / 1.33.00.00 dated 2011.08.24), is in IT mode, and appears > to be working fine: > > mpt0 Adapter: > Board Name: USASLP-L8i > Board Assembly: USASLP-L8i > Chip Name: C1068E > Chip Revision: B3 > RAID Levels: none > > mpt0 Configuration: 0 volumes, 8 drives > drive da0 (30G) ONLINE SATA > drive da1 (29G) ONLINE SATA > drive da2 (931G) ONLINE SATA > drive da3 (931G) ONLINE SATA > drive da4 (931G) ONLINE SATA > drive da5 (931G) ONLINE SATA > drive da6 (931G) ONLINE SATA > drive da7 (931G) ONLINE SATA > > The eight drives are configured as ZIL, L2ARC on SSD and a six drive > raidz2 on the spinning disks. > > We did a ZFS replace on the last drive in the line, and the resilver > is proceeding at less than 800k/sec. > > extended device statistics > device r/s w/s kr/s kw/s qlen svc_t %b > da0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0 0.9 0 > da1 0.0 8.2 0.0 19.9 0 0.1 0 > da2 125.6 23.0 768.2 40.5 4 33.0 88 > da3 126.6 23.1 769.0 41.3 4 32.3 89 > da4 126.0 24.0 768.5 42.7 4 32.1 88 > da5 125.9 22.0 768.2 40.1 4 31.6 87 > da6 124.0 22.0 766.6 39.9 5 31.4 84 > da7 0.0 136.9 0.0 801.3 0 0.6 4 > > The system has plenty of free RAM, is 99.7% idle, has nothing else > going on, and runs like a one-legged dog. > > There are no error messages or any sign of a problem anywhere, other > than the really terrible performance. (When not rebuilding, it does > light NFS duty. That performance is similarly bad, but has never > really mattered.) > > Similar systems running Solaris put out 10x these numbers claiming 30% > busy instead of 90% busy. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for how I could troubleshoot this > further? At this point, I'm kind of at a loss as to where to go from > here. My goal is to try to phase out the Solaris machines, but this > is kind of a roadblock. > > Thanks for any advice! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- James Gosnell, ACP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 20:28:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFF91E2 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christias@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-x229.google.com (mail-vb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8988E2724 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id g17so2396063vbg.0 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ViHOYyTLDcA2VQxSUcNnnGPU951AoX0zguikGQtBVtc=; b=S3WVKaC1FjYruhPy+2uAw0v5ZYL2hGTe2Sii1BoWajWdudCVU8H3Gai5kmZ64X5dRE m82a2xrNAcAL4hDWbTvLg4U3PlLmPFJaARs3S2XXXqa5XtlaCgBC2/VnVcG3gNpBZm1o 8mXaY3aegLJNEETUmLiK2Etgkj54Im98fbUi1bfSX3pHgc1zFB8xPzJtbxbKCGSAr08p p0KF/zrlIqRYmlNuvJ4z0dStqsYf/snWM7naa1Vqqt95JzUOgUE9mYRlnu4VHje8Ry/j +l2v0X19UFkahI+/A114eVXJ6xKIz+h1rM3LbqPT+6wpRaG3wVI6R6aS3ORDOzBjXcGs VWUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.237.130 with SMTP id ko2mr2288962vcb.88.1375907338565; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.210.231 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <52006E74.9080905@msen.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 23:28:58 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: php problems From: Panagiotis Christias To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Mark Moellering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:28:59 -0000 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM, mikel king wrote: > > On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Mark Moellering wrote: > > > A few years ago (2011) I set up an email system for a small internet > based company. I used postfix with a mysql backend for virtual accounts. > I also set up apache to test a php based webmail front-end. > > I set up several php scripts that would run from cron that would query = a > database and look for new email account requests and then do a variety of > tasks to get everything set up properly. > > After I left, someone else made modifications to the system and things > stopped working properly. A few months ago I was asked to try and get > things working again. > > > > I discovered that all php scripts now generate a seg fault. > > > > I tried a simple "hello world" type program > > the actual code is : > > > echo "test" > > ?> > > and the output was; > > > > testsegmentation fault > > > > The system is FreeBSD 8.2 and php 5.3 > > > > If anyone has any idea of what changes might have been made that could > cause this, please let me know. My other thought was to try reinstalling= / > upgrading php. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Mark Moellering > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Hey Mark, > > Do you have a backup/alternative system you can test the code on? In lieu > of that I would seriously consider rebuilding php. After you get it worki= ng > it would be worth also considering upgrading to 55. > > Also make a complete revision backup of the code and config files once yo= u > get it working, this will save a lot of hair if the company in question > hires someone else to tweak things in the future=85 > > Cheers, > Mikel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello, If a simple command like "php -v" (no script) results a seg fault then you should follow Patrick's advice. Or try editing by hand /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini and comment out one by one the extensions mentioned in there. If you are lucky you will find one or more offending extensions that you don't need and leave them commented out on uninstall them. If not, you would have to recompile/reinstall the offending extensions or portupgrade php and all extensions. Latest php versions in ports tree (all branches: 5.4.x, 5.3.x, even 5.2.x) seem to have resolve this issue. Regards, Panagiotis --=20 Panagiotis Christias christias@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 20:36:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A727E4B6 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdavidlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com (mail-ie0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78F5127AB for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 17so346093iea.31 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:36:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FWmV1lZpV0wfCDxxuAYL5+FRbbt/Ve+4Qp6KTfr8oy4=; b=dH+5Upt/Jv9ivVDcvHn1blUCpOXQrNszaoMh2HMtQZSTPK5fDGi9I0rnue6sL9oKAM TGPbq37gjocJbh6n/lwa/WKEJl6+onOCgxuyI6CPXo10HowbEP3MEpgKWQn/Re3fjZbz ZqrAoX+b8MflIIrkr0SbW47obIfjSS6e7/fLz1A9aU+NiVqBxMt2cuqp95uO6VvOM+xv bMoUzLDaXDDzp9y7JjIVxjsu6keacKOnyLkBEl6ZgF2z/j+iYa1v7HZStDoBaaOYFgj5 dANFR0rwNEcrDJT4EOI6gwetez+MWITMG9WMecRSTQOMFnTkWGSVm6or01iPqkAkQQi4 CFow== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.137.9 with SMTP id im9mr456979icc.39.1375907786465; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: jdavidlists@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.150.196 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:36:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:36:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TWNBsZ2kkLZaK8L0XG5ha7qJxc4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Terrible disk performance with LSI / FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 From: J David To: James Gosnell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:36:27 -0000 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:15 PM, James Gosnell wrote: > Maybe one of your drives is bad, so it's constantly doing error correction? Not according to SMART; all the drives report no problems. Also, all the drives seem to perform in lock-step for both reading and writing. E.g. when one drive in an array is failing, all the drives may be pulling the same # of reads, but the failing drive will often report 100% busy and/or multi-second svc_t's and the others will sit at 4% with 20msec svc_t's or similar. In this case, it's acting like the disks are all hugely overloaded. Except without even the high svc_t's I typically associate with overworking an array. The speeds do fluctuate. Last night it was down to 64k/sec reads per drive (about 15 reads/sec) and still reporting 90% busy on all drives. It feels like some sort of issue with the bus/controller/kernel/driver/ZFS that is affecting all the drives equally. Also, even ls takes forever (10-30 seconds for "ls -lh /") but when it eventually does finish, "time ls -lh /" reports: 0.02 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys Really not sure what to make of that. An attempt to do "ps axlww | fgrep ls" while the ls was running failed, because the ps hangs just as long as the ls. So it's like the system is just repeatedly putting anything that touches the disks on hold, even if all the data being requested is clearly in cache. (Even apparently loading the binary for /bin/ls or doing "ls -lh /" twice in a row.) Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 22:08:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68D96B4 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 22:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CC202DA0 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 22:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r77M8Mr8073441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 23:08:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <5202C558.3010305@fjl.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 23:08:24 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terrible disk performance with LSI / FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 22:08:26 -0000 On 07/08/2013 21:36, J David wrote: > It feels like some sort of issue with the > bus/controller/kernel/driver/ZFS that is affecting all the drives > equally. > > Also, even ls takes forever (10-30 seconds for "ls -lh /") but when it > eventually does finish, "time ls -lh /" reports: > > 0.02 real 0.00 user 0.00 sys > > Really not sure what to make of that. An attempt to do "ps axlww | > fgrep ls" while the ls was running failed, because the ps hangs just > as long as the ls. So it's like the system is just repeatedly putting > anything that touches the disks on hold, even if all the data being > requested is clearly in cache. (Even apparently loading the binary > for /bin/ls or doing "ls -lh /" twice in a row.) As a suggestion, what happens if you read from the drives directly? Boot in single user and try reading a Gb or two using /bin/dd. It might eliminate or confirm a problem with ZFS. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 03:25:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD66637 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 03:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soliosg@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x243.google.com (mail-wi0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1A0D2F95 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 03:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f195.google.com with SMTP id hi8so64575wib.10 for ; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:25:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XAjRokvhLPuR9mvqDRzZFHjakMLVcJwglQGwOnue7LI=; b=j2kyKXp9OhMeBKGvBppdh/04xYh4x9Vcf8nvBZu8tM/RMQSWg15RqiIH/TKBgauJZL uXcejUXM8jPK5TRPpIwWndjxrAQiW3wfOFa035fKEYKmyKpOJnldCNU2D7vTNqeuyobB FmO9pSynFnGKaxM2aVASJ6aoQQigMlSmWzFyScV4PdWut6RM588zOSb6UV8pVxRoH5nB gJsexatlY1kGeeZ93MYzOWYt1+QYq2/UkmQ3ZqFndh7gKhkYvINbglKimUzSMXNSnZJ+ OE5dyPSKOFlxYe25ZaE+txkni/8dFPHOrC6EANQuoQKOI/FSNU2Tfeic/uSicIWHq9/a ofSg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.187.41 with SMTP id fp9mr3814475wic.33.1375932348051; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.87.134 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 22:25:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Can't install FreeBSD 9.1 on a Toshiba A20-S207, CAM Status: Command timeout From: Solio Sarabia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001a11c3844cd7385304e36736cb X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 03:25:50 -0000 --001a11c3844cd7385304e36736cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm having problems installing PC-BSD 9.1 Isotope Edition or FreeBSD 9.1 on a relic Toshiba Satellite A20-S207, http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=638246&isFromTOCLink=false . However, on the same machine, PC-BSD 8.2 Hubble Edition or FreeBSD 8.2 can be installed without a problem. So, I'm guessing something changed in the boot configuration detection process. Some forums report it could be related to the hard disk detection speed DMA. Have tried every possible combination in the BIOS settings and still without success. Please find attached the /var/log/messages in PC-BSD 8.2 (the version that works fine.) I can install PC-BSD 9.1 booting in secure mode, and complete the installation process, but when I finish off installation, remove the disc and reboot, it halts in the following lines: uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered cd0 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) cd0: cd present [1828192 x 2048 byte records] ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun0 ada0: ATA-8 device ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada: Previously was known as ad0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2656886392 Hz quality 800 (ada0:ata0:0:0:0) READ_DMA48. ACB: 25 00 af 9e a1 40 12 00 00 00 01 00 (ada0:ata0:0:0:0) CAM status: Command timeout (ada0:ata0:0:0:0) Retrying command Thank you for reading. 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<8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> <1375892517.24063.YahooMailNeo@web190704.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Mike Jeays , "mexas@bris.ac.uk" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , aurfalien X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 04:48:51 -0000 On Thu, 8 Aug 2013, Quark wrote: >> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Mike Jeays wrote: >> [ big snip ] >> Hell, I may even get a hoody from the store :) > > hey, where are the hoodies??? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 06:25:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39812EC for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 06:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91F2228D9 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 06:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r786PfBQ026775 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:25:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <520339E5.8010709@blackfoot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 00:25:41 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: firefox audio / youtube crashes? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 08 Aug 2013 00:25:42 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 06:25:58 -0000 I think I should know this but I don't, and a search didn't turn up anything recent. It's my understanding firefox 22 with html5 should allow playing youtube videos without the flash plugin. But when I try to watch a youtube video, firefox crashes. I had this working on firefox 17 under 9.0 but don't know how it was configured... My firefox is installed with the following options: /usr/ports/www/firefox$ make showconfig ===> The following configuration options are available for firefox-22.0,1: DBUS=on: D-Bus IPC system support DEBUG=off: Install debug symbols GCONF=off: GConf configuration backend support GIO=on: GIO for file I/O GNOMEUI=off: libgnomeui support module GNOMEVFS2=off: GnomeVFS2 (virtual file system) support GSTREAMER=off: Multimedia support via GStreamer LIBPROXY=off: Proxy support via libproxy LOGGING=on: Additional log messages OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=off: Use extra compiler optimizations PGO=off: Use Profile-Guided Optimization WEBRTC=on: Web Real-Time Communication ====> Options available for the single AUDIO: you have to select exactly one of them ALSA=on: ALSA audio architecture support PULSEAUDIO=off: PulseAudio sound server support I installed the following as freshports indicated they were needed to run, but it made no difference: www/nspluginwrapper audio/alsa-lib multimedia/libv4l hints? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 11:42:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC91B207 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:84c1::deaf:babe]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B7E32AE2 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.100.97.42] (2.150.22.121.tmi.telenormobil.no [2.150.22.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3E0E2E408; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:42:42 +0200 (CEST) References: <5202C558.3010305@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5202C558.3010305@fjl.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <02C07E9F-ABB3-4A38-9638-21F913A08EC1@elde.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) From: Terje Elde Subject: Re: Terrible disk performance with LSI / FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:42:38 +0200 To: Frank Leonhardt Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:42:56 -0000 On 8. aug. 2013, at 00:08, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > As a suggestion, what happens if you read from the drives directly? Boot i= n single user and try reading a Gb or two using /bin/dd. It might eliminate o= r confirm a problem with ZFS. If not too inconvenient, it'd be very interesting to see what'd happen if yo= u were to physically disconnect (data and power) 5 of the 6 drives, then boo= t and dd from the remaining disk to /dev/null. Then repeat with another driv= e.=20 You could boot from USB to leave the system itself otherwise untouched.=20 The reason I'm suggesting is that I'm wondering if this can be down to a pow= er or cable-issue, locking things up or causing retransmits, etc.=20 Not sure if this would always be logged, others might be able to enlighten t= hat issue.=20 Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 12:23:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D86768 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:23:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix0930@me.com) Received: from st11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (st11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.172.81.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26232E2C for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from felix.gddsn.org.cn (unknown [183.62.24.10]) by st11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MR700CBUMA65I20@st11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 11:22:56 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-08_04:2013-08-08,2013-08-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1308080061 Message-id: <52037F85.3060106@me.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:22:45 +0800 From: felix User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: can't build virtualbox-ose Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:23:04 -0000 hi,all when i build the port, it shows the following messages. ===> Installing for gnutls-2.12.23_1 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if security/gnutls already installed ===> gnutls-2.12.23_1 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of security/gnutls without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** [check-already-installed] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnutls. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/gnutls. *** [lib-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gsoap. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gsoap. *** [build-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose. I had run "portupgrade -fr security/gnutls", even though i run "portupgrade -a", the problem is still. any hints? thanks felix -- FreeBSD FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p5 #0: Sat Jul 27 01:14:23 UTC 2013 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 13:43:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7D4312 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.44.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1304A23A8 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.73]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r78Dh8Xs028162; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:43:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from vagabond@blackfoot.net) Message-ID: <5203A06C.9040501@blackfoot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 07:43:08 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130730 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: felix Subject: Re: can't build virtualbox-ose References: <52037F85.3060106@me.com> In-Reply-To: <52037F85.3060106@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]); Thu, 08 Aug 2013 07:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:43:18 -0000 On 08/08/13 05:22, felix wrote: > hi,all when i build the port, it shows the following messages. > ===> Installing for gnutls-2.12.23_1 > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if security/gnutls already installed > ===> gnutls-2.12.23_1 is already installed > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to > upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of > security/gnutls without deleting it first, set the variable > "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" > command line. *** [check-already-installed] Error code 1 ... > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose. > > I had run "portupgrade -fr security/gnutls", even though i run > "portupgrade -a", the problem is still. any hints? thanks I had this problem with a different port. I think I got around it by cd'ing to the port directory and doing a make install. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 14:34:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A17525B for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webenton@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CB82737 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU178-W51 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:34:50 -0700 X-TMN: [OCWDxi0qLnlw5+xkzPWF7fTy993gMUU7] X-Originating-Email: [webenton@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_6f3dddf6-011b-43b0-b6b9-e13eeb82e5ae_" From: william benton To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: memory stick Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:34:49 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2013 14:34:50.0403 (UTC) FILETIME=[705B1F30:01CE9444] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:34:57 -0000 --_6f3dddf6-011b-43b0-b6b9-e13eeb82e5ae_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to mount a memory stick at the command line. I seem to be able = to mount and unmount it but i can't copy files into the stick. please see t= he attached image for the commands I used and the results. If you have any = suggestions on what the problem might be I would sure like to know what you= think. 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(PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gEFZOfJK/rlngctlHJ1D2/ZirLoO0TuGqpb5tYoYZD8=; b=Whhy67B1ahuvrXNq6s5XtXNSYP+gK0rDyDw9viKyomm7/GRPZAibuburpClaYUBvoA Las43DuwnUvd56kD9cQ9311egVAqzaEl2uN6IIzdfEpEXy3FUdimedEuqE5Rw/zSW7PR mspwfnH730nWjIDZJsiR0w8HRTQiPuOKz4gYKzwqnLtlXjuN6zCnctLGflDaHQ+5Dm0s MgrJq2zh/wxs+dGY/X8nGW/PrYlDb49YYx+faVxKk9IqGQH0FZ8BVrnqRrYUs7CAEyAf hZlHY2tpn2zCerg2E3cUjXaH06ryDWPIS55ags0Mda2k9ZGOXVn8h1V/VLJcph+jlVlH LmZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.121.68 with SMTP id li4mr6477432pab.33.1375972938761; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 07:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.92.79 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:42:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:42:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: memory stick From: Adam Vande More To: william benton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:42:19 -0000 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM, william benton wrote: > I am trying to mount a memory stick at the command line. I seem to be able > to mount and unmount it but i can't copy files into the stick. please see > the attached image for the commands I used and the results. If you have any > suggestions on what the problem might be I would sure like to know what you > think. I logged in as root on free BSD version 7.0 release 0.0. > > You have a special character in your path. You will need to escape it, eg cp /usr/home/w\!/foo /mnt/ufs/ -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 15:00:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61741E18 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D9E42911 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r78F0Bms021028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:00:13 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.135]) by LTCFISWMSGHT05.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.16]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:00:12 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: william benton Subject: Re: memory stick Thread-Topic: memory stick Thread-Index: AQHOlER6Kqf4yzqqqkyUl0XdHIB2QpmLuz6A Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:00:11 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720200AED4@ltcfiswmsgmb21> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <72F8654FA924104CAE590045D3BC45BB@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-08_05:2013-08-08,2013-08-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 15:00:17 -0000 (sorry for top post) Heh, looks like the Alton Brown style of debugging ;D (for anyone that foll= ows his twitter feed) --=20 Devin On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:34 AM, william benton wrote: > I am trying to mount a memory stick at the command line. 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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:10:24 -0000 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 05:58:18PM -0400, kpn wrote: > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 05:56:09PM -0400, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 07:30:17PM +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > > > I'd like to try out 9.2-BETA1 on a test box. > > > > > > >From where do I check out the sources please (using svn)? > > > > I believe you want: > > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 > > > > After 9.2 is released you'll be able to use: > > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.2 > > > > But if I'm not mistaken until then you'll want "stable/9". > > I should have also mentioned that you can get already compiled images from: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.2/ BTW, I just saw that 9.2 has a new branch in svn. So if you want to track 9.2 you'll need: svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.2 Meaning, my Jul 26th email is now out of date. If you want the 9.x stuff that will probably not be in the 9.2 release then you can continue to track "stable/9". Thanks again. I'm trying releng/9.2 as we speak. 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Message-ID: <20130808164655.GA12326@SeanLaptop.mygateway.net> References: <520339E5.8010709@blackfoot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <520339E5.8010709@blackfoot.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "siobud.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hey Gary, Try launching FireFox in a terminal emulator, do you get an error message related to cubeb_refill_stream? To fix the error try either setting media.use_cubeb -> false in about:config or rebuild audio/alsa-plugins with ARIFF_OSS disabled. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP TVD_RCVD_IP Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:49:12 -0000 Hey Gary, Try launching FireFox in a terminal emulator, do you get an error message related to cubeb_refill_stream? To fix the error try either setting media.use_cubeb -> false in about:config or rebuild audio/alsa-plugins with ARIFF_OSS disabled. On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 12:25:41AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > I think I should know this but I don't, and a search didn't turn up anything > recent. > > It's my understanding firefox 22 with html5 should allow playing youtube videos > without the flash plugin. But when I try to watch a youtube video, firefox > crashes. I had this working on firefox 17 under 9.0 but don't know how it was > configured... My firefox is installed with the following options: > > /usr/ports/www/firefox$ make showconfig > ===> The following configuration options are available for firefox-22.0,1: > DBUS=on: D-Bus IPC system support > DEBUG=off: Install debug symbols > GCONF=off: GConf configuration backend support > GIO=on: GIO for file I/O > GNOMEUI=off: libgnomeui support module > GNOMEVFS2=off: GnomeVFS2 (virtual file system) support > GSTREAMER=off: Multimedia support via GStreamer > LIBPROXY=off: Proxy support via libproxy > LOGGING=on: Additional log messages > OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=off: Use extra compiler optimizations > PGO=off: Use Profile-Guided Optimization > WEBRTC=on: Web Real-Time Communication > ====> Options available for the single AUDIO: you have to select exactly one of them > ALSA=on: ALSA audio architecture support > PULSEAUDIO=off: PulseAudio sound server support > > I installed the following as freshports indicated they were needed to run, > but it made no difference: > www/nspluginwrapper > audio/alsa-lib > multimedia/libv4l > > hints? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 17:49:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C282120E for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80E8D27C4 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1V7UKp-003v31-NC>; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:49:15 +0200 Received: from e179190106.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.179.190.106] helo=munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1V7UKp-002cai-Jy>; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:49:15 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:53:04 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: cursor keys not working on console Message-ID: <20130808195304.34c34319@munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de> Organization: FU Berlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/Z+MBxwGtGDtdoK.KEvJR8OR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-IP: 85.179.190.106 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 17:49:24 -0000 --Sig_/Z+MBxwGtGDtdoK.KEvJR8OR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The cursor keys on the consoles in freebsd CURRENT (no X11 virtual consoles, the FreeBSD consoles!) do not work for me. I use tcsh as the main shell. As set by default in /etc/ttys, the console's terminal type is xterm. Switching to=20 setenv TERM cons25 solves the problem, but the menus in ports via make config look ugly and more ugly, but they are unusable with the setting "TERM=3Dxterm". What is wrong here? Why are the cursor keys not working in the console/ports menu as expected when using tcsh/csh as default shell? Plese CC me. Regards, Oliver --Sig_/Z+MBxwGtGDtdoK.KEvJR8OR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSA9sIAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8/AsH/RAvLvlg/5LgwXtYqTFvOTs2 4Og7hsmDDzlcBGDyPhpo0OQnEuExmZdRSxfjxjdh5KP3BiFlM0pf8PXOmKpTA33z 3baDLOViUBVJJm0RsuCXPiCs8n4YYYeVSqUS8Lry0CgDQ5yoy3scfB9u51RugfaW V5kPH2dlw9/ncgzsDmwHZ77w5yhSE+IzLrREPhLo/0tril6DHHU79L0j9ISCrIxt ImGCwjkT6DhMjw8ajfXLUzkXxbSi6YmEs9bvKRZivXDSs/P35Eqp6GuXIyegr+w1 nlXYaRhewqKtmmgAQ+0fbhBVB0hAF8nda7q2J1kVs+5sJyZMEdQO7jyhjW+fZpU= =liQ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Z+MBxwGtGDtdoK.KEvJR8OR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 21:04:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F024EEC for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 863B822F5 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r78L45OF010436 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 22:04:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <520407C7.9080603@fjl.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 22:04:07 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terrible disk performance with LSI / FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 References: <5202C558.3010305@fjl.co.uk> <02C07E9F-ABB3-4A38-9638-21F913A08EC1@elde.net> In-Reply-To: <02C07E9F-ABB3-4A38-9638-21F913A08EC1@elde.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:04:17 -0000 On 08/08/2013 12:42, Terje Elde wrote: > On 8. aug. 2013, at 00:08, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> As a suggestion, what happens if you read from the drives directly? Boot in single user and try reading a Gb or two using /bin/dd. It might eliminate or confirm a problem with ZFS. > If not too inconvenient, it'd be very interesting to see what'd happen if you were to physically disconnect (data and power) 5 of the 6 drives, then boot and dd from the remaining disk to /dev/null. Then repeat with another drive. > > You could boot from USB to leave the system itself otherwise untouched. > > The reason I'm suggesting is that I'm wondering if this can be down to a power or cable-issue, locking things up or causing retransmits, etc. > > Not sure if this would always be logged, others might be able to enlighten that issue. > > Terje > > And while you're at it, could you post the output of diskinfo -v /dev/[slices] - check the cylinder alignment and so on if you haven't already. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 8 21:15:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3856338 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lsantagostini@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22f.google.com (mail-pa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80ACC2398 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 21:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kl13so4022922pab.20 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:15:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tHHi9SYlOXM0a4Ajur663Aw2kNCFdSvljjFbqkDEgQk=; b=xFqHCGY+5KPGG4YGhMqdtEDKtZmJ0cQ0AjN4PvJffYG14kDbACwJOz9+peBhzj2MZb DRaKR88inMBPkJHsbURi0XpTF+/TNGFW0exz5NPKasUfKJT//im0YCczil3dXrJSBXhy bmlv/YhG944cIMxhrKti6ZHBPsqNZ2I/PR3FfhqhfKKZGOmuGzDbfNeeNKFYux42eBxx Ow74wW/DYIYqhJ7kfoFOPaU5//jqF/DPptqAraVmr3b7RxrZ8dYr4NwQJAvdXhVefDyR Z/cwYlsnyycY99xp56BYCukEWeWPw/HsmUWPNU/3U841HVAPH2PlKT5R4pmYXvDiHu02 EJMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.178.197 with SMTP id da5mr4469587pbc.79.1375996546086; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.170 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 18:15:45 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Control-M question From: Leonardo Santagostini To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:15:46 -0000 Hello list, Im trying to install control-m agent on FreeBSD doing some searching i didnt find anything that point to me to a sucessfull installation. I would really appreciate if someone can give to me a clue or some recipe or some howto !! Arquitecture is: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue Dec 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 and CTM agent is: PIM PLATFORM PACKAGE DATE INSTALL DATE VERSION INSTALL TYPE COMME NTS ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ DRKAI.6.3.01 Linux-x86_64 Dec-04-2006 Nov-04-2009 6.3.01.000 INSTALLATION Regard / Saludos.- Leonardo Santagostini From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 02:19:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A646A60A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 02:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@invisible-island.net) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B30252F for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 02:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([unknown] [71.178.218.130]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MR800JGDOYFRYE3@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:18:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (aerie [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r791IFHq003395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:18:15 -0400 Received: (from tom@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id r791IF51003393; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:18:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:18:15 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: "O. Hartmann" Subject: Re: cursor keys not working on console Message-id: <20130809011815.GA3360@aerie.jexium-island.net> References: <20130808195304.34c34319@munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-disposition: inline In-reply-to: <20130808195304.34c34319@munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dickey@his.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 02:19:32 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 07:53:04PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > The cursor keys on the consoles in freebsd CURRENT (no X11 virtual > consoles, the FreeBSD consoles!) do not work for me. >=20 > I use tcsh as the main shell. > As set by default in /etc/ttys, the console's terminal type is xterm. > Switching to=20 >=20 > setenv TERM cons25 >=20 > solves the problem, but the menus in ports via make config look ugly > and more ugly, but they are unusable with the setting "TERM=3Dxterm". >=20 > What is wrong here? Why are the cursor keys not working in the > console/ports menu as expected when using tcsh/csh as default shell? =66rom infocmp (cons25 vs xterm): kcub1: '\E[D', '\EOD'. kcud1: '\E[B', '\EOB'. kcuf1: '\E[C', '\EOC'. kcuu1: '\E[A', '\EOA'. It's probably=20 http://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html#cursor_appmode You would probably find TERM=3Dxterm-noapp and improvement. --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIEQ1cACgkQcCNT4PfkjtvhdQCeLaLES8L4UmH/Z78CzX7zU1Cb SoQAn2M91T1kh+R5a6fOTX9pjb3cfgkF =+30a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 02:36:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715247CC for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 02:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-x22f.google.com (mail-pd0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DB2325ED for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 02:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q10so7966pdj.34 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:36:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ISj9PXoHFHc+ZJmgCjZ4aW8NhGWu3MUu+qrYekhmxDU=; b=RZDaN8YbqWzFLOVUDtmG9jjy3dGKR2kkdeZJUagqnUhWmx5fDAScQzrp30PmMvbMtM ddKECGYVycuw66poxbeZfv0DanAEUS5lQyfF6AWqGNUPoiff1X3pEXRznrcPIyqV+o0y o5EnuDmC2LsGIRZ1IQvxaEe9F6xQ8p6m7VVhwZ0C+D00cHNQUXA9o5AYDGZVKMSy4+gn n7qZIMrEW0jrHqCHDYInZb+mKvqjye2NVrbC6bXtZJ3IFy7TCyBtPhbsAJL2tw0Cpmau hXvVmkI/pFK+M9oF7iglg8DSsE5OS4tROjc6yfvR+keVGGD8UBKtxzKlsISXdpcch31I Ieig== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.235.39 with SMTP id uj7mr9093375pac.122.1376015793880; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.129.99 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 19:36:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 22:36:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Control-M question From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Leonardo Santagostini Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 02:36:34 -0000 On 8 August 2013 17:15, Leonardo Santagostini wrote: > Hello list, > > Im trying to install control-m agent on FreeBSD doing some searching i > didnt find anything that point to me to a sucessfull installation. > > I would really appreciate if someone can give to me a clue or some recipe > or some howto !! > > Arquitecture is: > > FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue Dec 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 > root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > and CTM agent is: > > PIM PLATFORM PACKAGE DATE INSTALL DATE > VERSION INSTALL TYPE COMME > NTS > ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > DRKAI.6.3.01 Linux-x86_64 Dec-04-2006 Nov-04-2009 > 6.3.01.000 INSTALLATION > Well, assuming you're talking about the BMC software, they don't list FreeBSD as a supported platform. http://www.bmc.com/modules/module-html/Control-M-by-applications.html?&height=488&width=940 Given that it's not open source, if the doesn't run successfully under Linux emulation, I strongly doubt you can do anything outside of con- tacting the company. Also, AFIK Linux emulation is i386 only, not amd64/x86_64 (or what- ever obnoxious neologism they're using to-day) so you'll probably have to run something other than Linux-x86_64. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 03:15:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639E1A3 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 03:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lsantagostini@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com (mail-pa0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CA292856 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 03:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id lf1so1615617pab.38 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:15:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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They cost a li= ttle more than =0A> that, though.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Chris Hill=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 chris@monochrome.org=0A> **=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 [ Busy Expunging ]=0A> _______________________________________= ________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.fr= eebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any m= ail to =0A> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0Athanks all,= =A0this looks good,=0Ahttps://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdpullover.bk= ?id=3DwQnRGQDn&mv_pc=3D31 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 09:04:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A5CDD3 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com (mail-lb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D564291E for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 09:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id w10so3107940lbi.35 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 02:04:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0saDO8wa1jZJRgmMNhRnpBV1eyU5Bk6bzjvkXoRkzNI=; b=rz91j8byUhhyHmLyDw4IY+Fy86aHatqlghzwhh00pghzFMa/J4exeSI8DGBmh0tHO2 oOBJEba0J2RCeH5L7Gzd8f6oG7nXnEBfhGllhknsoyAc+0ycGqohuho4wDYb8sPO8Sjx EsKDRBWsDeYFfOALB1lpBaA4su0LlwxEmzE4cnnMkcYTmoeUELMwjGAnGiDpFp5LNbAM GhUJ9gZvgd1bzv4tpTeCMUAITnfocTYEZOTMJUF/gdwps1HIebBB8C9B7dh6WfXSOjfK 74BJFIU75jKSRgHFMJwMm8NtbUJ2m77P7MukLieITLTqTvp4Bi3kIwMUEpnDY18X2TxV Ph8w== X-Received: by 10.152.120.228 with SMTP id lf4mr5536412lab.44.1376039083811; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 02:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] (mau.donbass.com. [92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w5sm6108600lbw.3.2013.08.09.02.04.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 02:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5204B0A9.8020508@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:04:41 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130802 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: if_bridge and ng_netflow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:04:52 -0000 Hi all. I have one machine with bridge configured. Recently I thinked about capturing all traffic on the bridge with ng_netflow. 1. ng_ether doesn't attach to bridge0 interface: # ngctl list | grep ether Name: rl0 Type: ether ID: 00000034 Num hooks: 2 Name: ste0 Type: ether ID: 00000035 Num hooks: 2 Name: wlan0 Type: ether ID: 00000036 Num hooks: 2 2. If I attach all physical interfaces to netflow I get no statistics for data originating from server. I.e. I see all inbound traffic but I see no outbound traffic. Maybe I'm just doing everything wrong? I'm adding interfaces to netflow this way: connect wlan0: netflow0: upper iface2 connect wlan0: netflow0: lower iface3 connect netflow0: netflow0: out2 out3 3. Ok, I can do this other way (sorry, I'm bad at netflow scripting): mkpeer eiface ether ether rmhook ngeth0: ether ifconfig ngeth0 up ifconfig bridge0 span ngeth0 And again I see only inbound packets. I see no packets coming from me. Is there any other working way to get stats from bridge interface? -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 10:17:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B222D13 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com (mail-wg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 167C52C7B for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so3491000wgh.9 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HIYnhiBopPOVhrCkPBXot7GlFNyM4V0SIIX5qUwzmnA=; b=GUrvKtJdagdbTWY9vDlFjERH6uSB6jMCnK7boH1vIxjEYxOPyELus040i1ya6/3asR zW0bcfWcpD0dQG83r7KXhv5TZq/gdJ7Es3ZUPVzVlZW1HZV6+pdiIakS+PYkAh4C/zux vu0f8vQoEm2L5I/2aLkb0hsqdj77NYEQMLfAtA1XEoGryel62NFNahzIS0QdiDd0CL+p 6vZ+75nr/ZWisVg8KsDeFj3w0ugI1/KPRWkmPG/kuAEJQxfSORWGktsOIrBkYE6lZVZh DtrHqdlQ9n5+NTpjubXqTDzQR8VkSCY7IrpInL3RIb3wtBz51dPNhEj6OAa7/GO4Uzcx 0leQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.176.74 with SMTP id cg10mr5693231wjc.75.1376043429458; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.239.164 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:17:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Question about usbhid.h and dev/usb/usbhid.h From: David Demelier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:17:11 -0000 Hi, I'm currently writing a USB driver for the SFML framework. I'm reading the code of SDL and seen the usage of usbhid. However, /usr/include/usbhid.h and /usr/include/dev/usb/usbhid.h are different. But they have both some common functions and the same data definition. For instance, enum and structures are identical, but the second one has much more #define about hid usages. Why are these files so much different and still having some identical definitions? Isn't better to add full definitions and data to the second one and just add a #include in /usr/include/usbhid.h? 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h4sm23422073qai.6.2013.08.09.09.36.45 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3cBXCc1146z2CG5k; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:36:43 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: texlive and package updating Message-ID: <20130809123643.1b6f7fb6@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, hrs@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 16:36:47 -0000 Port: texlive-full-20120701 Path: /usr/ports/print/texlive-full Info: TeX Live, Full Version Maint: hrs@FreeBSD.org With: TEX_DEFAULT=texlive placed in the /etc/make.conf file. My question is how do I update the packages since the package updater has apparently been deliberately disabled? I install/update dozens of packages each week on my Windows machine, so I know that they are available. Also. all of the "*-freebsd-doc-*" ports are bonked due to the use of "texlive". Is there any headway being made on that front? -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 16:46:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC85EB5; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 16:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A39322373; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 16:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r79GeEiJ028590 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:40:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <52051B6A.30209@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 11:40:10 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: texlive and package updating References: <20130809123643.1b6f7fb6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130809123643.1b6f7fb6@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 11:40:14 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: r79GeEiJ028590 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, Jerry , hrs@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 16:46:35 -0000 On 08/09/2013 11:36 AM, Jerry wrote: > Port: texlive-full-20120701 > Path: /usr/ports/print/texlive-full > Info: TeX Live, Full Version > Maint: hrs@FreeBSD.org > > With: TEX_DEFAULT=texlive placed in the /etc/make.conf file. > > My question is how do I update the packages since the package updater > has apparently been deliberately disabled? I install/update dozens of > packages each week on my Windows machine, so I know that they are > available. > > Also. all of the "*-freebsd-doc-*" ports are bonked due to the > use of "texlive". Is there any headway being made on that front? I've given up on all OS distribution-based TexLive drops. I install texlive manually from their installer and then run tlmgr under cron control nightly to keep it up-to-date. I do this on FreeBSD (my primary dev and server platform) as well as all linux instances in my environment. It makes things a lot simpler. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 20:52:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA18841 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D516C21E5 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646391703E; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:45:58 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <52055505.6040901@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:45:57 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Setup HP Laserjet 1120m over network with LPD References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Juris Kaminskis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 20:52:30 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 6 Aug 2013, Juris Kaminskis wrote: > >> after several trials and errors and reading through FreeBSD handbook I am >> at dead end on how to proceed further, hope someone can guide me. > > Are you sure about that model number? I can't find specs for a Laserjet > 1120M. There is a Laserjet M1120. It's a Winprinter. > > The file entries are confusing and use some non-base programs. You may > be mixing the base system's lpr/lpd with the CUPS versions of the same > names from ports. > > For plain lpr/lpd, I have this article: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ######## Aloha, I, like Warren , think your entry is too comlpicated and I have a very old HP 1100 LaserJet that works on lpr using apsfilter from ports. I have only 5 lines in my printcap file. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 9 21:06:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7112BF for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CA1422EA for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b13so3923715wgh.19 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=OAFDHeojDCO4FYKz8xKqozJEw9RLolcQPkM20YqqjLg=; b=sygKTrH6cFP4BUBIhhZkRFQt+zJVK+QvELYiKLu2Bc5LMDsBI8w33NhOVPWzx03jKu 9Khkm16jwaYLWd48IqsS8X4KNbplWIB8T7L0asyRxeXeGhS9Z8PTtaT8EghJdtmEzD0c 90BXeEnojUFbOY7QqVhHqgLC4qu+Aw0C1MBibgPkGNNvQNH5dDczoZN7Ufty+p9ZW2+A 87JmzA2mFEwi81eUrzfJts4/dQBKV2HFTxD/XDCHR614YML83ZGyEQ4e0ChqMC7rxEdb 2mDOMbuilH7TDcCIdHTFeXYhf0QkRUIAEsa7YCIHSdmc3gX4i/uCbYH4YWlgwylS3z3B 8HbQ== X-Received: by 10.194.248.130 with SMTP id ym2mr7201495wjc.61.1376082392463; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from melon.localnet (58.33.91.91.rev.sfr.net. [91.91.33.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e7sm4721150wiy.4.2013.08.09.14.06.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:06:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David Demelier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: VirtualBox: reproductible panic Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 23:06:01 +0200 Message-ID: <1382064.HZhnGOCLBZ@melon> User-Agent: KMail/4.10.5 (FreeBSD/9.2-BETA2; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:06:34 -0000 Hello, I can reproduce a panic by just starting a virtual machine with VirtualBox 4.2.16_2. Unfortunately, as the kmod driver is not built with debug symbols I could not provide much information. Is this problem already reported? Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 instruction pointer = 0x20:0xffffffff806f8e8f stack pointer = 0x28:0xffffff80e7ce0a10 frame pointer = 0x28:0x817364000 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1854 (VirtualBox) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault cpuid = 1 KDB: stack backtrace: Uptime: 3m9s Dumping 302 out of 3054 MB:..6%..11%..22%..32%..43%..53%..64%..74%..85%..96% Reading symbols from /boot/modules/vboxdrv.ko...done. Loaded symbols for /boot/modules/vboxdrv.ko Reading symbols from /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko #0 doadump (textdump=) at pcpu.h:234 234 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. in pcpu.h (kgdb) bt #0 doadump (textdump=) at pcpu.h:234 #1 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () Regards. -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 01:41:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00195745 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ssan@indesyne.com) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66632FAC for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from MacPro ([142.161.41.231]) by p3plsmtpa09-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Apgy1m00B4zEvtq01pgz5r; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:41:00 -0700 From: "Someth San" To: Subject: Commercial Licensing Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:41:04 -0500 Organization: Indesyne Inc. Message-ID: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: Ac6VajhbXhqXDQ9WSfewE751cUqXxA== Content-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:41:07 -0000 Hello, I'm interested in installing FreeBSD into a small form factor PC for commercial use and was wondering whether there is a EULA in place for that purpose. I would like to avoid the open source requirement of disclosing my codes to a public community. If you can provide some information/direction in this regard, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Regards, Someth San Indesyne Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 01:58:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5425F983 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesgosnell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com (mail-ie0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 277AD2044 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 17so5397458iea.31 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7JjZyTUuorSEEFh26cy6qiOZ4tOVpvE95VOfpFdZBOM=; b=ZbgbxDg0g/bzHQaT6QmIwqEiHCsigB1qPzVAk+y2z4bS3yzgviDcKLIQgDdeW6dD0y ygStglS2/Li00y2b6V2WbBB4RBTy/arjuhdBuxzvWMOTFWWwj5qVfcQ7X17A/9bMptJY XLt08jya+7w+YeqGEqddKoKef+tAAE433nCzvtLcNPC2q0PSJ1l7W/0z2QugI/Irx+iT 41qVpnJh/J36SqnmO8YzVCHJy4C+nZX0o1SgclZeaW9EVnP3Bo2aHSluC+Nz0udvPT1E WT9fSGKkneIpjoS+Z2m6w1jGU090+fp2eYDMUTyTwB3pXamGfwTDz6Qyuj3JMEKS1paq TbyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.56.103 with SMTP id z7mr5999443igp.0.1376099880579; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.192.166 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> References: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:58:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Commercial Licensing From: James Gosnell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:58:01 -0000 I'm not a lawyer, but you need to read the BSD license. You can pretty much do anything you want with something that is licensed by it. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Someth San wrote: > Hello, > > I'm interested in installing FreeBSD into a small form factor PC for > commercial use and was wondering whether there is a EULA in place for that > purpose. I would like to avoid the open source requirement of disclosing my > codes to a public community. > > If you can provide some information/direction in this regard, I would > greatly appreciate it. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > > Someth San > Indesyne Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- James Gosnell, ACP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 02:06:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FFDA69 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ve0-x236.google.com (mail-ve0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CC08209B for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id m1so4437472ves.27 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:06:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Eoq2AyKzVtHrzdJwIBasyR8XfOgNMygkBE+ECX8nSpo=; b=cc3YzBImr6PiR3Kf0fKN820wE6GM/VAnE2XDTvN5bC8HgNvvvotVvSi5RZMNyn738P Hly1zVHOgV8bZG9QAhG1h6RwKbSdAz0rRLehtVtTB5FO3ZwFTI5e042WRas7G9sr7Y7i X8Yir7TJbd5TZ3wkSL2qkL3ZObGJ45qlwFKntf28/051V4lwsekihmV7yrl6xWWS2xbP BrJzLNB8YdggSbFW3C+IlvWQeZ65Z4JCeWopFltTw7Q62hR8DQeYHmIdSWxt8ZRlrzNp Whjf28gGUXBQsxqt74mkl2S+lO+CneTV6D6A7YmXDx1qIjJ/p8+ymTQUhhNp5ppxHS/c rQZA== X-Received: by 10.220.92.68 with SMTP id q4mr1967368vcm.93.1376100385640; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.1.223] (mail.olivent.com. [75.99.82.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ir5sm13053176veb.6.2013.08.09.19.06.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: Commercial Licensing From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:08:11 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> To: "Someth San" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:06:27 -0000 Greetings Someth, With FreeBSD you are free use as you see fit. Think of the BSD license = in terms of 'Free' beer and not the freedom to look under the hood like = some other mock free licenses. If this were not the case then Apple = would not have been able to derive Mac OS X from FreeBSD and close the = source of their product.=20 The nature of the various FreeBSD licenses allow for you to do this with = the exception of some newer versions of the license the include an anti = relicensing clause which essentially prohibits you from taking a BSD = licensed code based and relicensing it under one of the GPL versions. At = this point those sorts of addendum's are rare but definitely becoming = more popular.=20 Ultimately there is not requirement that you give back to the BSD = community in the form of your code additions however you are strongly = encourage to do so, the choice is yours. Finally I would recommend consulting an IP attorney for a review of the = current license just to ensure that everything is still as it was = explained to me a long time ago by mine. Regards, Mikel On Aug 9, 2013, at 9:41 PM, "Someth San" wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm interested in installing FreeBSD into a small form factor PC for > commercial use and was wondering whether there is a EULA in place for = that > purpose. I would like to avoid the open source requirement of = disclosing my > codes to a public community. >=20 > If you can provide some information/direction in this regard, I would > greatly appreciate it. >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Someth San > Indesyne Inc. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 03:13:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD38461 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesgosnell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1A3023DC for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k5so3342454iea.32 for ; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 20:13:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=H5zTm5G/6pbD1wNyJqZRLwPMjnKue0GVAeXB1z4Fkpg=; b=MzkyhKPqu6YI//lEbSChLQEEOIqdFtExkD8wtMzfb8HoN1/7M2k5YavCtHC4oh5YFC AWSyFlmvN5EZ7mOCoLFAfuJ8ePkmkjF3uKQ1hdEGSA9qVOZrOhtsj4RsrWZodON4spNH 8TZO0g8IX0WPgpZXN6KKSevx0IFteE4X59b3mvBotmB8lMqbPsi/fRYtorX/+fPjg18H fBFJCg68LVpan04KzETQneFSC3GaM+meYCQXpVi90HSfarRtlBatAkVjHwC+IpM9Cn3c /FQBCprxVqBvVc3CCk24qzgJUW0YHzEs4nMjRv0GtACyTgmo1kg0qgvs0hjEqz2dAs5G HRqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.246.67 with SMTP id lx3mr5837079icb.69.1376104385328; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 20:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.192.166 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:13:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130810025805.GB24269@neutralgood.org> References: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> <20130810025805.GB24269@neutralgood.org> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:13:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Commercial Licensing From: James Gosnell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:13:06 -0000 GPL'ed software in the base system: https://wiki.freebsd.org/GPLinBase On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:58 PM, wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 08:41:04PM -0500, Someth San wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm interested in installing FreeBSD into a small form factor PC for > > commercial use and was wondering whether there is a EULA in place for > that > > purpose. I would like to avoid the open source requirement of disclosing > my > > codes to a public community. > > This requirement of disclosure isn't so much an "open source" thing, it's > required by some popular licenses (like the "GPL"). The rather large group > of people in software has groups that prefer restrictive licenses like the > GPL, and other groups who prefer licenses with fewer restrictions. > > Be aware that FreeBSD isn't covered by a single license. Rather, it is > made up of a large number of pieces of software that came from various > sources over a lot of years. > > In general FreeBSD tries to avoid using those kinds of license that you > are saying you want to avoid. But in the set of all software that make up > FreeBSD there is still code left covered by it. With a little care you can > avoid getting bitten by this. Which leads to my next point... > > > If you can provide some information/direction in this regard, I would > > greatly appreciate it. > > I want to second the advice of talking to a lawyer who specializes in > copyright. The lawyer should be working for you and paid by you (or your > business, etc). Any time real money is involved you should hire a lawyer. > > Any time real money is involved you should hire a lawyer. Any time the > outcome matters you should hire a lawyer. > > Seriously, your use of the term "EULA" shows you need to talk to a lawyer. > > Give your lawyer the FreeBSD source code and your lawyer can look at it > and advise you. > > But don't let this scare you. With a little care you will probably be just > fine. > > -- > "A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of > invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor ... > in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser ... in an irregular way > fascinating to cats,..." -- US patent 5443036, "Method of exercising a cat" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- James Gosnell, ACP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 08:51:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A509D90E for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ED2A2FBE for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1V84tR-001LRi-C5>; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:51:25 +0200 Received: from g225187188.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.225.187.188] helo=munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1V84tR-000Yf3-8j>; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:51:25 +0200 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:55:17 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" To: dickey@his.com Subject: Re: cursor keys not working on console Message-ID: <20130810105517.35399e00@munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20130809011815.GA3360@aerie.jexium-island.net> References: <20130808195304.34c34319@munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de> <20130809011815.GA3360@aerie.jexium-island.net> Organization: FU Berlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/x8k+Q3cTx1f_lO8yuklvJx="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-IP: 92.225.187.188 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:51:34 -0000 --Sig_/x8k+Q3cTx1f_lO8yuklvJx= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:18:15 -0400 Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 07:53:04PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > > The cursor keys on the consoles in freebsd CURRENT (no X11 virtual > > consoles, the FreeBSD consoles!) do not work for me. > >=20 > > I use tcsh as the main shell. > > As set by default in /etc/ttys, the console's terminal type is > > xterm. Switching to=20 > >=20 > > setenv TERM cons25 > >=20 > > solves the problem, but the menus in ports via make config look ugly > > and more ugly, but they are unusable with the setting "TERM=3Dxterm". > >=20 > > What is wrong here? Why are the cursor keys not working in the > > console/ports menu as expected when using tcsh/csh as default shell? >=20 > from infocmp (cons25 vs xterm): >=20 > kcub1: '\E[D', '\EOD'. > kcud1: '\E[B', '\EOB'. > kcuf1: '\E[C', '\EOC'. > kcuu1: '\E[A', '\EOA'. >=20 > It's probably=20 >=20 > http://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html#cursor_appmode >=20 > You would probably find > TERM=3Dxterm-noapp >=20 > and improvement. >=20 Hello. Thanks, this works for me. I was wondering if others did not have the same problem, since I use only standard settings for the console (except that I use csh/tcsh instead of sh). Regards, Oliver --Sig_/x8k+Q3cTx1f_lO8yuklvJx= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSBf/6AAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8CZIH/2b4D+0DJgQV1r9dEVnTz9vp zr3sAyO7MAbsDepBJAKJ2hlxDNeCE9dZF95fPQwCwpbO8GqsxQbnWqCRKGrX6fu/ YS5Qe+bOJ+b/2/DtZNpL2P/lUg518LNjNx74bE1EB/ot2qgAaGmuwGo/EJV8IQHF YEKgVnKx3kdCgxi2T7dq1v8BUOy3fIfW4+OQwzGypPXUevnt1qo1LGxYlo8CRVED qmC7lvqlKt/JRoBt24cNDat/eAbJn8EJFHiaH13joV6+Y6RE2EG7orfR5BwxQi00 TWG3SLAj2AMQRDqCHuRqNW/fYqmr2Ion8TThV6Zrf6/ye5ELans1WCZ/EIZP4d0= =lSCI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/x8k+Q3cTx1f_lO8yuklvJx=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 10:07:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23996704 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r_olivarez@juno.com) Received: from outbound-mail03.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail03.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2F022315 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:07:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1376129225; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=f2twsnLUceA1TEHMFdT6VWkppRDV95TLUWGNYjsx8U4bUvZK8rnO4BtcHjxUOB8rS k09bzgoBgrWKNZbLCxQcreySQ8C6vPpX7jU2CbDoktRliHnPgwvzPtAyw58ERbMOGC jzzzJfUtnCMteQd2bIlKOJjw3J9dONtzZBeg3kYc= X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail10.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.150]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKAND2JA44SUCJ for (sender ); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.80.58.116] by webmail10.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:58:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [108.80.58.116] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "r_olivarez@juno.com" Full-Name: "r_olivarez@juno.com" Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:58:07 GMT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: New to Free-BSD with questions. X-Mailer: Webmail Version 6.1_P2 Message-Id: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-UNTD-BodySize: 536 X-ContentStamp: 3:4:4138860018 X-MAIL-INFO: 0a55c5290d590c2d6945f04d6995cd81b445f5d42535ed X-UNTD-OriginStamp: QntFfurxjFfBz+McfhIRIswnACrMlNVYvvb8q1nXFt3DQs5jVGP7zA== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.150|webmail10.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|r_olivarez@juno.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:07:07 -0000 New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. = System boots from DVD to command line mode. Questions are: = A.) Is Xwindows, (X11) included on the DVD copy? = B.) If included, what command is used to start it? = C.) What shell is installed as the standard shell in command line mode? D.) Is there a site that I can download a complete copy of the documenta= tion for Free-BSD, as one file and not a series/set of separate files? Thank you for your assistance. Ms. R. Olivarez (E-mail: r_olivarez@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ One Weird Trick Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you QualifyR= 30 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/52060f091e983f0837bbst04vuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 10:38:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFC9CCE for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D572477 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8DD3C677; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:38:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r7AAc438001902; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:38:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:38:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "r_olivarez@juno.com" Subject: Re: New to Free-BSD with questions. Message-Id: <20130810123804.e52ccf3b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:38:17 -0000 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:58:07 GMT, r_olivarez@juno.com wrote: > New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. > System boots from DVD to command line mode. It should boot into a text mode installer. After installation, FreeBSD usually boots into a text mode (depending on what has been installed and configured already). > Questions are: > A.) Is Xwindows, (X11) included on the DVD copy? If I remember correctly, the required packages are part of the DVD #1. If you are already connected to the Internet, you can use that "medium" as installation source. Just a side note: PC-BSD, a system derived from FreeBSD, offers a graphical installer and a more tight integration with GUI-centric concepts (installs X automatically and even brings a desktop environment preinstalled). > B.) If included, what command is used to start it? It depends. If you want to start X from a regular login shell, "startx" is used. But a display manager which maintains a GUI login (like xdm) can also be used. See the handbook for more details: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html And don't miss the excellent FAQ: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ > C.) What shell is installed as the standard shell in command line mode? FreeBSD's default dialog shell is the C Shell (more precisely, the tcsh). The command shell in single user mode (maintenance mode) is a plain Bourne-alike shell (sh), which is also the systems default scripting shell. You can install shells like ksh, zsh and bash if you like. > D.) Is there a site that I can download a complete copy of > the documentation for Free-BSD, as one file and not a > series/set of separate files? Not that I know of, because the documentation on the web is primarily for use with a web browser, that's why it's hierarchically designed and separated. However, the documentation is part of the FreeBSD installation, and you can generate PS and PDF "book", as _one_ (voluminous) file, from them (even though I've never tried that). You can use a tool like wget to download a copy of the web documentation for offline use (keeping the mentioned separation). The web pages contain a "Split HTML" and "Single HTML" option, so you could maybe simply save this web page http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.html for the FAQ, and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.html for The FreeBSD Handbook, but it might be unhandy for printing. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 10:38:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738B0D60 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC822247F for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7AAcMdD048288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:38:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52061820.6030809@fjl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:38:24 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New to Free-BSD with questions. References: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> In-Reply-To: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "r_olivarez@juno.com" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:38:32 -0000 On 10/08/2013 10:58, r_olivarez@juno.com wrote: > New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. System boots from DVD to command line mode. > Questions are: > A.) Is Xwindows, (X11) included on the DVD copy? That's X, X11, Xorg or the X-Window System. Yeah, kind-of but you've probably downloaded the base version that expects you to be using it from the command line unless you compile or add X later. > B.) If included, what command is used to start it? startx > C.) What shell is installed as the standard shell in command line mode? tcsh - basically the standard Bourne shell unless you specified a different one when you created the user. You can switch to csh easily enough (type csh) or you can can add any other shell you like from the ports collection. > D.) Is there a site that I can download a complete copy of the documentation for Free-BSD, as one file and not a series/set of separate files? You probably want to read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Or if you want the whole thing at once try this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.html However, you'll get a lot of specific information for the man pages that come with it. There's an install option (new at 9.0?) to include documentation but I've never made use of it myself. However, if you're wanting a quick-start version of a FreeBSD with a graphical shell and looking more like a Windoze desktop try this one: http://www.pcbsd.org/ Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 10:46:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1206EE8 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B164924EE for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber2.nber.org (nber2.nber.org [66.251.72.72]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7AAkQsf076055 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:46:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: Commercial Licensing In-Reply-To: <20130810025805.GB24269@neutralgood.org> Message-ID: References: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> <20130810025805.GB24269@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.03 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20130810 #10920879, check: 20130810 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Someth San X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:46:54 -0000 On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 08:41:04PM -0500, Someth San wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm interested in installing FreeBSD into a small form factor PC for >> commercial use and was wondering whether there is a EULA in place for that >> purpose. I would like to avoid the open source requirement of disclosing my >> codes to a public community. > You haven't said if "commercial use" includes the distribution of executables. Note that the GPL requirement to disclose source applies only if binaries are distributed outside your establishment. You can make commercial use of the device inside your firm of GPL code without violating the GPL. This is often forgotten in discussion, and leads to unnecessary worry. Daniel Feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 11:07:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A8B457 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 849B825C4 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.236] by nm24.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2013 11:07:36 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.97] by tm17.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2013 11:07:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp134.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2013 11:07:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1376132856; bh=ZaDXigevgPLENPqcNA7uafJLQomGzFekQBeui9R9f78=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ElLRAz0TCvTgf5tRRL8IwjsF49iAdCoMe5/y5lLj9/0L+X9BsExj6Yy2C0+VdstmbUX7gyPM2Sl20RRbROfMb4n+wkyw0ecmckYrV6ekmlYBLVW7GPevITJRJ30gGAHSybAMnzJpGV2rnyfeVBZL/+1ELiLN4Abke1BZ7Q9j0Sg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 42845.23321.bm@smtp134.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: r.pkujwVM1lG07A4GCMecNOd074zSxmZtBZ619XEpDoXK7H _rhNZ8VcedTMZ2xE.AKRIz6pRQD9ACbke2y3D6QjbB2sEK.GdrzYT.F9.LpC y9AmjPo3C2hxU4hyUToJ4eCYx8ks_L6965oOJwfFdSGpz9tZJUIVk5lLs4pB 5PX50xpEql4vP5wY_Sp8AQZKKnPZVmkyc0P5MMBVeDNU6KDm9AygcfLUUUdJ DfLZBFAVk9pDIgkAzsjTtefKx_Yyr7nbuDJZ_oZTfo.3gQWPB140m4vPPjUI 3W5Vd3teXpPFRje28s1flQorVYSOX9_e7sYUwBAAsAG1Q7qvl8bfrH6ciuei mtc_wwcymROjoTwP5f0rRrC6H5G_Wpq6odsX1uk3E.k3JCqQdIjJRkO7Twzs pTdqdweLGTx8JvfwF6zCWBeIs1pF53dYmpKcecBQUvWO5vJwowHxf.LpLMXF Ck92b2PUayUgiZIN4NF9vB07ou87hlFoIqfsvMz5LUCJTsEW79C5p6sM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR X-Rocket-Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@89.7.216.154 with ) by smtp134.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2013 11:07:35 +0000 UTC Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:07:38 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New to Free-BSD with questions. Message-Id: <20130810130738.e7eefc6c478d86c85ce3b7bd@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:07:45 -0000 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:58:07 GMT "r_olivarez@juno.com" wrote: > New to Free-BSD. Downloaded a current ISO image and burned it to a DVD. System boots from DVD to command line mode. > Questions are: > A.) Is Xwindows, (X11) included on the DVD copy? Yes, included. > B.) If included, what command is used to start it? It's included, but not installed. After boot under command line mode, login as root and type '#pkg_add -r xorg' (without quotes). When install ends, you can use startx or xinit to enter X mode. The default wm is a bit rude, install the one you want, f.ex. '#pkg_add -r kde4', '#pkg_add -r gnome2', '#pkg_add -r xfce4'. After install use '#rehash ' and/or '#hash -r'. Start each wm using proper command, startkde4, startxfluxbox, check docs or sail the web for that. > C.) What shell is installed as the standard shell in command line mode? Plain sh. Minimal, standard, works, rocks. > D.) Is there a site that I can download a complete copy of the documentation for Free-BSD, as one file and not a series/set of separate files? The handbook has single html mode. > Thank you for your assistance. > Ms. R. Olivarez > (E-mail: r_olivarez@juno.com HTH --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 13:41:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BD74DF for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFF642CA8 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r7ADfV7V004554; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:41:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r7ADfU3V004551; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:41:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:41:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "r_olivarez@juno.com" Subject: Re: New to Free-BSD with questions. In-Reply-To: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: References: <20130810.025807.24553.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:41:33 -0000 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, r_olivarez@juno.com wrote: > D.) Is there a site that I can download a complete copy of the documentation for Free-BSD, as one file and not a series/set of separate files? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ has the Handbook in compressed files for download. Several formats are available, including single and split HTML, PDF, and others. Many people just read the online version at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Translated versions are also available. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 13:51:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9F16FD for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mailch-2.name-services.com (mailch-2.name-services.com [98.124.252.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B582D37 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailch.name-services.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailch.name-services.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CA88E630BB8; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:51:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender-Id: 173.88.196.224 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (sjl0vwsmail09.prod.dm.local [10.7.17.59]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.23); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:51:24 GMT X-Pool-Id: 3 Received: from [10.0.10.1] (cpe-173-88-196-224.neo.res.rr.com [173.88.196.224]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:51:16 -0700 Message-ID: <522F23D5.60909@a1poweruser.com> From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Subject: Re: if_bridge and ng_netflow References: <5204B0A9.8020508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5204B0A9.8020508@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:51:28 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:51:17 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:51:28 -0000 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > Hi all. > > I have one machine with bridge configured. Recently I thinked about > capturing all traffic on the bridge with ng_netflow. > > 1. ng_ether doesn't attach to bridge0 interface: > > # ngctl list | grep ether > Name: rl0 Type: ether ID: 00000034 Num hooks: 2 > Name: ste0 Type: ether ID: 00000035 Num hooks: 2 > Name: wlan0 Type: ether ID: 00000036 Num hooks: 2 > > 2. If I attach all physical interfaces to netflow I get no statistics > for data originating from server. I.e. I see all inbound traffic but I > see no outbound traffic. > > Maybe I'm just doing everything wrong? I'm adding interfaces to netflow > this way: > > connect wlan0: netflow0: upper iface2 > connect wlan0: netflow0: lower iface3 > connect netflow0: netflow0: out2 out3 > > 3. Ok, I can do this other way (sorry, I'm bad at netflow scripting): > > mkpeer eiface ether ether > rmhook ngeth0: ether > > ifconfig ngeth0 up > ifconfig bridge0 span ngeth0 > > And again I see only inbound packets. I see no packets coming from me. > > Is there any other working way to get stats from bridge interface? > if_bridge is relatively new in FreeBSD. Netgraph precedes if_bridge and is un-aware of if_bridge. Change your if_bridge definition to a ng bridge definition and everything your trying to do should fall into place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 14:41:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E16940 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qe0-x233.google.com (mail-qe0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5234A2FEF for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f51.google.com with SMTP id nd7so2905342qeb.10 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:41:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BQk8Em2hSScdiAXfhsSOoBlD930CF+0rvWDQGIqZukk=; b=rPF6ZQVIW/JHkDHnDnsJaXSbFywX+iSNYZw1CBUG7ANijuM00a3OGP5mhbYluPLumG CyFDs6UezCJcO1cQ1bxBk5HHdLimQ499s1v1I5PDqDaLsmhRD8WwJo8zv9h4OMrA36WG 1QUPRUf1NQ/nSHMeEIBesMLxPUQFY6VUIwqQw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BQk8Em2hSScdiAXfhsSOoBlD930CF+0rvWDQGIqZukk=; b=cePSKcOHyKUjVWz+pQfehM+/9HqDtJW2WgEdJxrTAXPCQuxbqaCEU8JxT+/9B9bgUK J7iZRVoVNc3ILBTm5yR6/ldLh6owgEZwVKwsu2xdNX1I2OLVncPTzbvxgSULekAMkumG r2FePMpDX+O9vC6W+DC4/3DVL1qTYaeyCPDrzkg3vDV2XkUWW6oXhNYWtBU2mzs/DOX1 QygonsXFbHnE6Nr79jJO6knl1fxkY8iYd1DvR7IKcX3i6RxvYLtM8GdPPgcMPEbZEHAG u+RE7Gxzb0cD45Doba1T+o6jBWilVaY2+BqezTuC8bEFcRRO+3t96P+Wx2qQbWGNxNs3 8l7g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQky+h/MT+AJaeCK++Hq+Dxrp5sVcpn/dIkrudBwq8cTLziQNw2s2MKc8lEUs6GUnJyuVTE/ X-Received: by 10.224.65.3 with SMTP id g3mr15945684qai.42.1376145681869; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j11sm27983418qaa.7.2013.08.10.07.41.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3cC5by6nqwz2CG5l; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:41:18 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: texlive and package updating Message-ID: <20130810104118.7b1c6618@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <52051B6A.30209@tundraware.com> References: <20130809123643.1b6f7fb6@scorpio> <52051B6A.30209@tundraware.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, Tim Daneliuk , hrs@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:41:23 -0000 On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 11:40:10 -0500 Tim Daneliuk articulated: > On 08/09/2013 11:36 AM, Jerry wrote: > > Port: texlive-full-20120701 > > Path: /usr/ports/print/texlive-full > > Info: TeX Live, Full Version > > Maint: hrs@FreeBSD.org > > > > With: TEX_DEFAULT=texlive placed in the /etc/make.conf file. > > > > My question is how do I update the packages since the package > > updater has apparently been deliberately disabled? I install/update > > dozens of packages each week on my Windows machine, so I know that > > they are available. > > > > Also. all of the "*-freebsd-doc-*" ports are bonked due to the > > use of "texlive". Is there any headway being made on that front? > > I've given up on all OS distribution-based TexLive drops. I install > texlive manually from their installer and then run tlmgr under > cron control nightly to keep it up-to-date. I do this on > FreeBSD (my primary dev and server platform) as well as all > linux instances in my environment. It makes things a lot simpler. I have to admit that I am somewhat confused myself. Why the port was released sans any viable method of updating the packages seems counter productive. I know for a fact that this problem does not exist on an MS Windows machine, nor from what I have been able to ascertain, most other *.nix operating systems. Hopefully these two glaring problems will be rectified soon. I am wondering if I simply make "tlmgr" operational, if it will work. Did you have to do anything special to accomplish getting "tlmgr" working and updating correctly? -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 16:03:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70FC92 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B4FA2370 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fruiteater.riseup.net (fruiteater-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D85F047EFD for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@fruiteater.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id 2F575C27 Message-ID: <5206644C.6060803@riseup.net> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 18:03:24 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?Tmlrb2xhIFBhdmxvdmnEhw==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: texlive and package updating References: <20130809123643.1b6f7fb6@scorpio> <52051B6A.30209@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <52051B6A.30209@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:03:35 -0000 On 09/08/13 18:40, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I've given up on all OS distribution-based TexLive drops. I install > texlive manually from their installer and then run tlmgr under > cron control nightly to keep it up-to-date. I do this on > FreeBSD (my primary dev and server platform) as well as all > linux instances in my environment. It makes things a lot simpler. > How do you manage dependency tracking errors? The last time I've installed it the way you do was on Slackware and since it doesn't do any dependency tracking there were no problems (as long as the binaries were in PATH). I can imagine ports and pkg tools on FreeBSD complaining about missing TeX packages, and AFAIK Debian based Linux distributions will certainly complain (I think there is a workaround, but it involves messing with dpkg). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 16:27:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C288B4DA for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A55E52462 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fulvetta.riseup.net (fulvetta-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D269D4EAC0; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@fulvetta.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id F04915A Message-ID: <52066A0B.3080508@riseup.net> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 18:27:55 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?Tmlrb2xhIFBhdmxvdmnEhw==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Someth San Subject: Re: Commercial Licensing References: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> In-Reply-To: <002601ce956a$adfcf030$09f6d090$@indesyne.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Mail-Followup-To: Someth San , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:27:59 -0000 On 10/08/13 03:41, Someth San wrote: > Hello, > > I'm interested in installing FreeBSD into a small form factor PC for > commercial use and was wondering whether there is a EULA in place for that > purpose. I would like to avoid the open source requirement of disclosing my > codes to a public community. > > If you can provide some information/direction in this regard, I would > greatly appreciate it. > As others have said, you can do what you want to do with FreeBSD licenced code. The third party components in the base system that are under different licences are in /usr/src/contrib and /usr/src/gnu, so look there for potential problems. And as Daniel has said, if you're not going to distribute the binaries even the GPL code isn't a problem. In any case, you should consult a lawyer specializing in *software* copyright, not just any copyright lawyer because depending on what you want to do, GPL can be very complicated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 19:04:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5944D8FE for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 199A32AF9 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V8ET1-00053E-Bz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:04:47 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:04:47 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:04:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: 9.2-RC1: Problem with Kernel Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 11 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:04:55 -0000 This is 9.2-RC1 on amd64 (upgraded from 9.2-BETA1 by refetching the source from releng/9.2 and rebuilding kernel and world). The kernel compiles and runs fine using the supplied GENERIC, but when I try to use my custom kenel config file, on reboot I get this: Mounting from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 failed with error 19 What module(s) have I missed? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 19:29:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4D31A5 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32882C60 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-172-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.172.70]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2702762E; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:29:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r7AJTArK003551; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:29:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 21:29:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: 9.2-RC1: Problem with Kernel Message-Id: <20130810212910.60f36e17.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:29:21 -0000 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Walter Hurry wrote: > This is 9.2-RC1 on amd64 (upgraded from 9.2-BETA1 by refetching the > source from releng/9.2 and rebuilding kernel and world). > > The kernel compiles and runs fine using the supplied GENERIC, but when I > try to use my custom kenel config file, on reboot I get this: > > Mounting from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 failed with error 19 > > What module(s) have I missed? Diff against the GENERIC kernel. Maybe "device xhci"? What bootable media is listed when you type "?" at the mountroot prompt? If GENERIC boots and your kernel doesn't, there should be a significant difference regarding the config file's content. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 10 20:02:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D40E624 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01F9B2DBF for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r7AK2QXR006681; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:02:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r7AK2QwG006678; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:02:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:02:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: 9.2-RC1: Problem with Kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:02:26 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:02:34 -0000 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, Walter Hurry wrote: > This is 9.2-RC1 on amd64 (upgraded from 9.2-BETA1 by refetching the > source from releng/9.2 and rebuilding kernel and world). > > The kernel compiles and runs fine using the supplied GENERIC, but when I > try to use my custom kenel config file, on reboot I get this: > > Mounting from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 failed with error 19 > > What module(s) have I missed? options GEOM_PART_GPT But without information on what you removed, it's only a guess.