From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 13:23:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EB03101 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x241.google.com (mail-wi0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC89D14C8 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f193.google.com with SMTP id ca18so1155441wib.4 for ; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:23:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5q1A4HYWREJlumtmqxjRIqz8i/ls0gyrK8a03PbUlC4=; b=ZfDTcWswqbw/4tu6JMh/VVBUlMOhkdFrB+0CElWMK493u+RUaJhAS8txG8oj0zXOaK UyNlAufYt6k4T36dTeaWTIC9QErywH8rrVDIb3MwOeo7smE/YLz7isb5Sa4GkbA9/qTz NU40He6dW0op3MW/2nCp0pF2M2Bk44P9PxptkJF2H5DFI7qfmAkkcytACUPvaIbLRW5J dir87P2KrbUGyfkbPE23GrgYaquWJ4K5jKrnXEqX4dqqeWV4BW9W+IyxghQLxzk+OzZw wapO5w3R+yQJE30GtGW1KgruzGJiqfPQoZ/Dr7voYDPg4qKUHPezfeHbpr9mXbHVkc+1 ZNkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.20.202 with SMTP id p10mr5432274wje.39.1385904183227; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 05:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.80.3 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 05:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.80.3 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 05:23:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 05:23:03 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Activar memoria USB From: Javier Dominguez To: questions@FreeBSD.org, dominguez.1476.jd@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 13:23:05 -0000 Dominguez.javier340@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 14:23:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3F45EA4 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 14:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8571770 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 14:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([31.185.194.24]) by avasout07 with smtp id wEPJ1m0010Y3Cvz01EPK2c; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 14:23:19 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Z9fVQhhA c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=nD1E1HL59k9I5EBiANpUSQ==:117 a=nD1E1HL59k9I5EBiANpUSQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=2YU7Ix1lbqoA:10 a=SA0AqM4Yr6UA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=DFSPO8yIoDkA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=A95Tc3VSZklpiNgvmDcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-ID: <529B4657.3040201@mansionfamily.plus.com> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 14:23:19 +0000 From: james User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: pkg-ng problem, how do I recover? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@mansionfamily.plus.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 14:23:26 -0000 How can I recover from this? root@nas:~ # pkg update -f Updating repository catalogue digests.txz 100% 1093KB 1.1MB/s 1.1MB/s 00:01 packagesite.txz 100% 5886KB 1.4MB/s 2.0MB/s 00:04 pkg: sqlite: database disk image is malformed (pkgdb_repo.c:545) Incremental update completed, 0 packages processed: 0 packages updated, 372 removed and 13769 added. pkg: No digest falling back on legacy catalog format pkg: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/repo.txz: Not Found root@nas:~ # Earlier, I tried to pkgupgrade, but it seemed to get into a loop with docbook claiming malformed info, so I quit that. This is: root@nas:~ # uname -a FreeBSD nas 9.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #0 r255898: Thu Sep 26 22:50:31 UTC 2013 root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root@nas:~ # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 16:22:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E62FD45 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35BB81C29 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:470:89e9:1:feed::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3dXZTz3SrRz1DPX for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 11:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dXZTx72SRz1Bjc for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 11:21:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 11:21:58 -0500 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 16:22:02 -0000 On 11/30/2013 at 2:17 PM Warren Block wrote: |On Sat, 30 Nov 2013, Mike. wrote: | | [snip] | |> Is there a specific reason why MBR was used in the Handbook |> example for creating a mirror, instead of GPT? | |Yes, there was, see the last paragraph of the Metadata Issues |subsection, |http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-m irror.html#geom-mirror-metadata | |[snip] ============= A question about the wording of that paragraph. The second sentence states: "Because GPT partition schemes also store metadata at the end of the disk, mirroring full GPT disks with gmirror(8) is not recommended." The word "full" is ambiguous. Is it to mean, "full" as in 'full of data', or "full" as in 'the entire disk'? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 17:21:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D099CDF3 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 17:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8196D10CD for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 17:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB1HLZu9006005; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 10:21:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB1HLZBT006002; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 10:21:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 10:21:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Mike." Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook In-Reply-To: <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> Message-ID: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 01 Dec 2013 10:21:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:21:36 -0000 On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, Mike. wrote: > On 11/30/2013 at 2:17 PM Warren Block wrote: > > |On Sat, 30 Nov 2013, Mike. wrote: > | > | [snip] > | > |> Is there a specific reason why MBR was used in the Handbook > |> example for creating a mirror, instead of GPT? > | > |Yes, there was, see the last paragraph of the Metadata Issues > |subsection, > |http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-m > irror.html#geom-mirror-metadata > | > |[snip] > ============= > > > A question about the wording of that paragraph. The second > sentence states: > > "Because GPT partition schemes also store metadata at the end of > the disk, mirroring full GPT disks with gmirror(8) is not > recommended." > > > The word "full" is ambiguous. Is it to mean, "full" as in 'full > of data', or "full" as in 'the entire disk'? It means mirroring an entire disk, including boot blocks and metadata, rather than just parts of it like partitions or filesystems. I'll work on rewriting that paragraph for clarity. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 17:28:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1417AEC4 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 17:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D049310F5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 17:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C72C2FCCA2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 09:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94181-08 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 09:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from tejay.local (cpe-172-249-28-59.socal.res.rr.com [172.249.28.59]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABBC22FCC96 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 09:18:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <529B6F77.4090806@networktest.com> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 09:18:47 -0800 From: David Newman Organization: Network Test Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> <5271D5BA.9060004@networktest.com> <5272D3A5.7010308@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5272D3A5.7010308@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:28:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/13 3:03 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 10/30/2013 11:31 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> Hi, >> >>>> You can now either continue to use ports with >>>> portmaster/portupgrade, as before or switch to using binary >>>> packages only. >> >> I strongly expect that ports will remain a standard feature in >> the later releases of FreeBSD. >> >> Packages may be nice for the home/desktop user, but when it comes >> to production servers, one wants to be able to tweak what he is >> installing. >> >> FreeBSd is certainly my choice of an OS when I need to install a >> server, but if it ends up looking like Microsoft, I will have to >> reconsider. >> >> The cost of recompiling a port is way worth the flexibility it >> offers. >> >> Olivier > > Completely agreed. However, you should not be compiling anything on > your production machines! It is dangerous because of shlib bumping; > you may have a broken system. It is dangerous due to dependencies > being updated before other ports are, possibly breaking those. It > also adversely affects your performance and load. The list goes on. > Building on production is a big risk of downtime. > > I recommend setting up ports-mgmt/poudriere on a good > non-production-facing box and building packages to your own liking > with your own OPTIONS on there. Then you can serve out your own > pkg repository to your production machines. Poudriere is exactly > what the FreeBSD project is using to build packages as well. Do you have a recommendation for migrating from a current setup using portmaster to an all pkg setup? When building systems I always choose the 'developer' option in sysinstall. I'd love to lose that for production machines but don't know if a 'downgrade' to lose the compiler is possible. Thanks! dn > > https://fossil.etoilebsd.net/poudriere/doc/trunk/doc/pkgng_repos.wiki > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSm293AAoJEDoYs7vtFALaTBUP/2PCM9NhCLUhV/i1cgHzhEJY y1LwcSDvQfNq5m+YqN/xzBUqbCQVOCTPijmv+v+/21PiVlaH4afGcg9o5M8DWnYg /F73rePccCKjOD9fDM0L6QrV2IPECUc4EIe3GXHE8Le807D8bqH2Y84BdI77Vlax k6XmbJ1PgHYTWsk4RzKmWehRtvC6tfqNcCEqFryjHD66CDhMEfUUYVxqbe6CWK6+ 9PRFBdnkMt+OGAqGPnzCHHWxe0Cg9uxzQwAf+fPRiAn/qVl3LvI5AIejurrXq40s KgKqXXfuE4ehIqkw876mRM4M6Ohyz35+XdWMexgO1jaxPxu1mhFA85idNqdQXjW3 /OGIzdwrUhAWXjl+V9TY8qnZa1IhNinwdEPHBohhAmR8DzIzeyapvPZgflQjEBbk eVgZGv7B7mtO+tPQgJe+AoHLWst4ASALQy/uY0RIvmr3K2iHhfe7crCV959LmWUK M9o74PE91EDcIvR+PfxJv2xJAdS4gffkL7T6sZtN2KsMGjfmVoQ6UplGBG5KuMoq OeTAer3i22PqvRPkbZ83ZEbAqfWIz/fhZQUonGAby6h716stM98LruYJnXKh8uev ANZSziOYlgnyK4uKaFOCcZnrhsauEYqQYOMF87/prK92dJaeG1aORAoC8wMH8nUU Y1qAREUm4XcMUbJQRnBn =fh6O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 17:31:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 293923D2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 17:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mail.sohu.net (relay.mail.sohu.net [220.181.20.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4535114B for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 17:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from haraka_router_25252 (unknown [192.168.95.125]) by relay.mail.sohu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dXc154BQGz2ZdFw for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 01:30:33 +0800 (CST) Received: via haraka outbound.js at Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:30:33 +0800 X-SOHU-Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from WIN-B383RPTB017 ([192.168.95.125]) by haraka_router_25252 (Haraka/2.0.5) with ESMTP id F5B6FEA4-6EA0-46AF-8D8C-A784490E74E5.1 envelope-from ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:30:33 +0800 Received: from WIN-B383RPTB017 (unknown [124.42.200.95]) by relay68.mail.sohu.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3dXc1626FzzY7yV for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 01:30:34 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <9991275.1385919050676.JavaMail.Administrator@WIN-B383RPTB017> From: gauuid@xzfor.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re:Supply mould Plastics X-SHIP: 124.42.200.95 X-SOHU-ANTISPAM-TMASE: SPAM-11-15.0276-5.0000-N/A X-TMASE-OEM-MatchedID: 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 X-SOHU-Antispam-Ers: 1 X-TMASE-OEM-Version: TmSpamFilter-1.0.1000-7.0.1014-20332.000-3.5.1032 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:30:33 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 17:31:01 -0000 Plastic tooling, Injection tooling,die-casting tooling 10 years Modeling design experience,Good quality, Prompt Delivery and Reasonable price! 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Major Product Scope Electronic products; electrical products; toys; mobile accessory products; etc. Monthly volume More than 30 sets Lead Time 2 weeks QC 3D measurement machine, 2D measurement machine Kia group Limited - ShenZhen XingZeGao Precision Design Limited Website:www.moldcnc.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 18:05:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 137669D5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B04DA12CE for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB1I5dSH066245 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:05:40 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk rB1I5dSH066245 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/rB1I5dSH066245; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <529B7A6B.6020800@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 18:05:31 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james@mansionfamily.plus.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: pkg-ng problem, how do I recover? References: <529B4657.3040201@mansionfamily.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <529B4657.3040201@mansionfamily.plus.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oX5i4bInijmhquC9QKG9J9562RjJW3Bin" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 18:05:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --oX5i4bInijmhquC9QKG9J9562RjJW3Bin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/12/2013 14:23, james wrote: > How can I recover from this? >=20 > root@nas:~ # pkg update -f > Updating repository catalogue > digests.txz 100% 1093KB 1.1MB/s 1.1MB/s 00:01 > packagesite.txz 100% 5886KB 1.4MB/s 2.0MB/s 00:04 > pkg: sqlite: database disk image is malformed (pkgdb_repo.c:545) > Incremental update completed, 0 packages processed: > 0 packages updated, 372 removed and 13769 added. > pkg: No digest falling back on legacy catalog format > pkg: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest/repo.txz: Not Found= > root@nas:~ # >=20 > Earlier, I tried to pkgupgrade, but it seemed to get into a loop with > docbook claiming malformed info, so I quit that. >=20 > This is: >=20 > root@nas:~ # uname -a > FreeBSD nas 9.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #0 r255898: Thu Sep 26 > 22:50:31 UTC 2013 > root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > root@nas:~ # If pkg(8) complains about a corrupted database, the first thing to try is= : # rm /var/db/pkg/repo-*.sqlite The vast majority of the time this will cure the problem, and it's safe enough to do, as everything in those repo-*.sqlite databases is derived from repository catalogues which you can just download again. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --oX5i4bInijmhquC9QKG9J9562RjJW3Bin Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJSm3pzXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATNi4P/RwEvTPME3emmjssPOJhD3Ux xpiZBHA0rYMK+NHbiJMon33X21fsf4evY3xCSWyOW79G1CI6awcfxr6rSq1FRwus jG0RdUeYiOI6xLjPxtqAaOdHUSINuJv7tvmRL1xoXrn/G8H06HNrrPqhoxhvOLdj +3EzypDUQfiU3JSO+7veyvR7K4Ojhy72W150FYc5ZQndrbjIQ0BaaT/oXtGF1TMU yuHGptGSGyZlnGNdv8y5V8C4hFDBA23m0dTXHSVQvSmNSPO3FrJG7GwnFi8VEjd0 /o80jDY602hVjqFDBqSs98a+1YzVQvPOKP/ZWSYWinuOcs9WehZBqATgJRG9lU+1 2qA3eImUgd7m1Fy4oNTV0nwJJiDvmSj+f+XRN5oNyJ4BkzgwfxGuZZSb/qKDlI8a NvZARnb+6hJtIwsykYnrs67K4TC6KT9Xgcn8ukvhBBex3oACXRgOI+AAFlN6t6e5 uR1UWnpoH5UvpHreXQl7TJ3Xa+1nyEL277IHK+KQmBOkyYDR0q79TNdE+eMzOmf7 b0sT82LgLkaQboaGRl+YFbu/a0ZqYr+bEsqAqMnrV3RCaUz5MnAJsOKycpTXNq0d FEubLPFsAiuJ40Lbw8nkUbvIqJnlA7nS57DugEalofIXagfBcMfUR6/uJzroCDXv HQ9LOuep54N/a1zLbIlR =SzUP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oX5i4bInijmhquC9QKG9J9562RjJW3Bin-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 18:53:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7306C58 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (uk1rly2283-a.eechost.net [217.69.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DE1151C for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VnBki-0001Ak-9i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 18:28:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VnBqs-000Cbc-Gf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 18:34:42 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:34:41 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng Message-Id: <20131201183441.67578313df73d48c1469f998@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <529B6F77.4090806@networktest.com> References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> <5271D5BA.9060004@networktest.com> <5272D3A5.7010308@FreeBSD.org> <529B6F77.4090806@networktest.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 18:53:19 -0000 On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 09:18:47 -0800 David Newman wrote: > Do you have a recommendation for migrating from a current setup using > portmaster to an all pkg setup? poudriere and any http server you like on the build machine (needs ZFS). For more details see my post in the "Building ports in jails after staging support" thread on 23 November. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 19:40:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 780F838A for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr005msr.fastwebnet.it (mr005msr.fastwebnet.it [85.18.95.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E86170F for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.fuckaround.org (93.49.16.11) by mr005msr.fastwebnet.it (8.5.140.03) (authenticated as secsec@fastwebnet.it) id 51CC0F2309F6A7FD for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 20:37:03 +0100 Received: by server1.fuckaround.org (Postfix, from userid 133) id 59E8384A9FE; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 20:37:03 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on server1.fuckaround.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from seashell.org (unknown [10.10.10.17]) by server1.fuckaround.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A150C84A9FB for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 20:37:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <529B9014.6060301@fuckaround.org> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 20:37:56 +0100 From: Pol Hallen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131005 Icedove/17.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: rsync client problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 19:40:12 -0000 Hi all... many hours to check this script but nothing of good... I've a linux rsync server and with linux client I use: rsync --password-file=/usr/home/user/.rsync.pass --log-file=/var/log/docs.log --progress --stats -avr --delete user@10.10.10.8::docs /home/user/docs everything ok, the problem is with FreeBSD rsync client: msg checking charset: ASCII rsync: safe_read failed to read 1 bytes [Receiver]: Connection reset by peer (54) [Receiver] _exit_cleanup(code=12, file=io.c, line=251): entered rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(251) [Receiver=3.1.0] [Receiver] _exit_cleanup(code=12, file=io.c, line=251): about to call exit(12) ssh port on linux server is 10321 also using --rsh='ssh -p10321' I've same problem :-( And also change to 22 ssh port, same problem... any idea? thanks! Pol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 1 21:15:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08F02AB5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 21:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D36A1AC9 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 21:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB1LFjXC076633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 21:15:45 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk rB1LFjXC076633 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/rB1LFjXC076633; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <529BA701.5060901@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 21:15:45 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> <5271D5BA.9060004@networktest.com> <5272D3A5.7010308@FreeBSD.org> <529B6F77.4090806@networktest.com> <20131201183441.67578313df73d48c1469f998@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20131201183441.67578313df73d48c1469f998@sohara.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iO9Ur9XPuO8gwI5jQ20HVE8HRNAFw1c85" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 21:15:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --iO9Ur9XPuO8gwI5jQ20HVE8HRNAFw1c85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/12/2013 18:34, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 09:18:47 -0800 > David Newman wrote: >=20 >> Do you have a recommendation for migrating from a current setup using >> portmaster to an all pkg setup? >=20 > poudriere and any http server you like on the build machine (needs > ZFS). Actually poudriere will work just fine with ufs nowadays. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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The system did not reboot when manually running any of the other daily scripts. I'm not seeing anything obvious in log files (although it might help if I knew what tolook for and where) --------------------------------------- %uname -a FreeBSD amd.asgard.uk 9.1-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p7 #0: Mon Sep 9 21:34:37 UTC 2013 root@amd64- builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 --------------------------------------- /etc/periodic/daily %cat 450.status-security #!/bin/sh # # $FreeBSD: release/9.1.0/etc/periodic/daily/450.status-security 221432 2011-05-04 12:48:02Z netchild $ # # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. # if [ -r /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ] then . /etc/defaults/periodic.conf source_periodic_confs fi case "$daily_status_security_enable" in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) echo "" echo "Security check:" case "$daily_status_security_inline" in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) export security_output="";; *) export security_output="${daily_status_security_output}" case "${daily_status_security_output}" in "") rc=3;; /*) echo " (output logged separately)" rc=0;; *) echo " (output mailed separately)" rc=0;; esac;; esac periodic security || rc=3;; *) rc=0;; esac exit $rc --------------------------------------- cat /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ... # 450.status-security daily_status_security_enable="YES" # Security check # See "Security options" below for more options ... # Security options # These options are used by the security periodic(8) scripts spawned in # 450.status-security above. daily_status_security_inline="NO" # Run inline ? daily_status_security_output="root" # user or /file daily_status_security_noamd="NO" # Don't check amd mounts daily_status_security_logdir="/var/log" # Directory for logs daily_status_security_diff_flags="-b -u" # flags for diff output --------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 00:27:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D5D45AF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C632011BB for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd.asgard.uk ([92.238.71.115]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id wQTJ1m00l2VE8Jc01QTLKB; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 00:27:22 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [92.238.71.115] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=Qfbov6rv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:117 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:17 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=g8DGSEr-gRIA:10 a=z6OmtuC8ihAA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U4kjxnpeAAAA:8 a=RIXHdJ6alCwA:10 a=4tpR3mDfRd9YyhtnVWEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:27:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> In-Reply-To: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201312020027.18293.freebsd01@dgmm.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 00:27:30 -0000 On Sunday 01 December 2013 23:52:00 dgmm wrote: > My system reboots at 3am when /etc/periodic/daily/450.status-security I've now narrowed it down to: /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid ...but have no idea why it might a catastophic crash/reboot. #!/bin/sh - ... # $FreeBSD: release/9.1.0/etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid 175906 2008-02-03 00:33:05Z des $ # # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. # if [ -r /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ] then . /etc/defaults/periodic.conf source_periodic_confs fi . /etc/periodic/security/security.functions rc=0 case "$daily_status_security_chksetuid_enable" in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) echo "" echo 'Checking setuid files and devices:' MP=`mount -t ufs,zfs | awk '$0 !~ /no(suid|exec)/ { print $3 }'` find -sx $MP /dev/null -type f \ \( -perm -u+x -or -perm -g+x -or -perm -o+x \) \ \( -perm -u+s -or -perm -g+s \) -exec ls -liTd \{\} \+ | check_diff setuid - "${host} setuid diffs:" rc=$? ;; *) rc=0 ;; esac exit $rc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 05:34:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8D4D6EE for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 05:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out-04.shaw.ca (smtp-out-04.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B25B122D for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 05:34:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=Ur78AkMj4ME0q/xQKDu+fQsLaK/oG8/QJxPJp7yvMIc= c=1 sm=1 a=QrugwKR0C_UA:10 a=wAGQQ9Az6v0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=ICAaq7hcmGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IbtKDeXwb2+SRU442/pi3A==:17 a=BWvPGDcYAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=DdMZvQSIC3vZEwIYBlUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=V7tsTZBp22UA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO spqr.komquats.com) ([96.50.7.119]) by smtp-out-04.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2013 22:34:33 -0700 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF1A80 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 21:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB25YWYe007047 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 21:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <201312020534.rB25YWYe007047@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.5 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Quad-port Gigabit NIC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 21:34:32 -0800 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 05:34:40 -0000 Hi all, I'm looking at upgrading my fiewwall/gateway from a Pentium III machine to an AMD64 machine (I can get a MB for a good price and I have a number of AMD64 chips, including a good X2 4200+ kicking around, I just need memory, a CPU cooler, and a quad port gigabit NIC). The issue is that the old Pentium III, an Asus CUSL2-C, has five PCI slots in which I have five NICs. I'm looking to replace it with an Asus M2A-VM with a quad gigabit NIC. What have people had good results with? What do folks recommend? Why? All of my machines are amd64 capable, except for the firewall/gateway and an old laptop, which is used as a testbed. Replacing the old CUSL2-C MB with a newer MB will allow me to have a homogeneous amd64 shop rather than the current heterogeneous amd64/i386 farm I have downstairs. Oh yes, it needs to be economical too. Any and all pointers would be appreciated. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 06:15:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 269FB371 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 06:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC878146E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 06:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 592393DD31; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 07:15:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB26F2F0001970; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 07:15:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 07:15:02 +0100 From: Polytropon To: dgmm Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Message-Id: <20131202071502.a72c0029.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201312020027.18293.freebsd01@dgmm.net> References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312020027.18293.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:15:26 -0000 On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:27:18 +0000, dgmm wrote: > On Sunday 01 December 2013 23:52:00 dgmm wrote: > > My system reboots at 3am when /etc/periodic/daily/450.status-security > > I've now narrowed it down to: > > /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid > > ...but have no idea why it might a catastophic crash/reboot. A wild guess: File system damage side effect that is being triggered by something "non-obvious". To make sure this is _not_ the case, reboot into SUM or via live media and perform a forced (!) file system check. Note that just in case you might think "but I run background fsck and preen, that should be sufficient" - it's not; there are few things that only a full, _normal_ file system check can detect and repair. I'm mentioning this because similar situations have been discussed on this list, and finally there was some strange file system defect responsible... But also make sure system power is good, and the system does not become unstable when on load. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 08:18:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1B37D0F for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 08:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802291B13 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 08:18:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IPSA+3TG c=1 sm=0 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:17 a=CPwA9CjszQEA:10 a=g8DGSEr-gRIA:10 a=6lBslN5KadwA:10 a=LEup1id8KFYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=oX08kPI8AAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=RIXHdJ6alCwA:10 a=6IlnN0MotG9NJNkdoTsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4wfsiePOASQA:10 a=s99JP9nkuyUZgdwK7wvnJA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 72.132.160.201 Received: from [72.132.160.201] ([72.132.160.201:46082] helo=bsdfull.Belkin) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 67/C2-09582-4124C925; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 08:17:25 +0000 Message-ID: <529C4213.2010307@sdf.org> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 00:17:23 -0800 From: cary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , dgmm Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312020027.18293.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <20131202071502.a72c0029.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131202071502.a72c0029.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 08:18:33 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:27:18 +0000, dgmm wrote: >> On Sunday 01 December 2013 23:52:00 dgmm wrote: >>> My system reboots at 3am when /etc/periodic/daily/450.status-security >> >> I've now narrowed it down to: >> >> /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid >> >> ...but have no idea why it might a catastophic crash/reboot. > > A wild guess: File system damage side effect that is being > triggered by something "non-obvious". To make sure this is > _not_ the case, reboot into SUM or via live media and perform > a forced (!) file system check. Note that just in case you > might think "but I run background fsck and preen, that should > be sufficient" - it's not; there are few things that only a > full, _normal_ file system check can detect and repair. > > I'm mentioning this because similar situations have been > discussed on this list, and finally there was some strange > file system defect responsible... > > But also make sure system power is good, and the system does > not become unstable when on load. > > Had a 3 a.m. reboot last week. /usr was corrupted because of my own errors made while compiling ports. $ fsck -t ufs -fv /dev/{usr-partition} -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org ------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 10:43:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A3C517F for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (uk1rly2283-a.eechost.net [217.69.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6D317A1 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VnQsc-0003s7-AO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 10:37:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VnQyp-0002qj-Md for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 10:43:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:43:55 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Multiple pkg repositories Message-Id: <20131202104355.37e2ca24f4068e1d86000134@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 10:43:59 -0000 Hi, I see with the pkg-1.2 there is support for using multiple repositories. What is not clear is how to control the search order in these repositories. I'd like to arrange that my local repository is searched first with a fallback to the official repository, primarily so that I can avoid compiling some of the monsters like libreoffice, firefox etc. while still having packages with my selected options and custom patches where I want them. Anyone know if it's possible to set this up reliably ? -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 10:49:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA11C30F for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway02.edpnet.net (relaygateway02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67A416DF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:32:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoEIADBhnFJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABZgwc4g020RAJJToEhF3SCJQEBAQQBAQEgKwgYCxALGAICBRMOAgIPBRMBCQgkCAcEAQgUBIdkCa8niRWGXReBKY0OAQFPB4JrgUgDlUWCTgGBMJBjgyo7MYEE X-IPAS-Result: AoEIADBhnFJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABZgwc4g020RAJJToEhF3SCJQEBAQQBAQEgKwgYCxALGAICBRMOAgIPBRMBCQgkCAcEAQgUBIdkCa8niRWGXReBKY0OAQFPB4JrgUgDlUWCTgGBMJBjgyo7MYEE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.93,810,1378850400"; d="scan'208";a="209391349" Received: from 77.109.118.201.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.118.201]) by relaygateway02.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 02 Dec 2013 11:15:49 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 11:31:22 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: "Mike." Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Message-ID: <20131202103122.GN66981@mordor.lan> References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 10:49:22 -0000 If you want to use GPT with gmirror you may want to mirror each partition instead of the whole disk. For example on my box I have the following: https://dpaste.de/Rb3S On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 11:21:58AM -0500, Mike. wrote: > On 11/30/2013 at 2:17 PM Warren Block wrote: > > |On Sat, 30 Nov 2013, Mike. wrote: > | > | [snip] > | > |> Is there a specific reason why MBR was used in the Handbook > |> example for creating a mirror, instead of GPT? > | > |Yes, there was, see the last paragraph of the Metadata Issues > |subsection, > |http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-m > irror.html#geom-mirror-metadata > | > |[snip] > ============= > > > A question about the wording of that paragraph. The second > sentence states: > > "Because GPT partition schemes also store metadata at the end of > the disk, mirroring full GPT disks with gmirror(8) is not > recommended." > > > The word "full" is ambiguous. Is it to mean, "full" as in 'full > of data', or "full" as in 'the entire disk'? > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 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Let me know if you are interested and I'll present you with a proposal that would not only improve your sales and visibility for your products and services ---------------------------- Kind Regards Name: Roshan Designation: Online Marketing Consultant ---------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 13:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C47A5E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 13:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 195DE155E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 13:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB2DthTE098557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 13:55:49 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk rB2DthTE098557 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1385992549; bh=NLZsJFlkAp/s3vr2H4mYuMUiWWGOKU1mT4FcAqGSVx8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Mon,=2002=20Dec=202013=2013:55:32=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Multiple=20pkg=20repositories|Ref erences:=20<20131202104355.37e2ca24f4068e1d86000134@sohara.org>|In -Reply-To:=20<20131202104355.37e2ca24f4068e1d86000134@sohara.org>; b=O6P0x+Y1f0FTXXO8/V2gvfziyt8aez1uUM3QJ37o2rDW/x413nupvxyZflJ5ch6qv cNykCsfmYl5IvZK62A5+o4GfqlxQ6xkVu3RQwlpaAc7GDLbkXSVrOvFS5HcspFgQKm qK9ZhgkDu/lhXeoox4nchgfaEsspqMoT8UfpiVTA= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <529C9154.40606@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:55:32 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple pkg repositories References: <20131202104355.37e2ca24f4068e1d86000134@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20131202104355.37e2ca24f4068e1d86000134@sohara.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nlaUAs3n9WJ1uL11efbVwsWVw0G9N1Rb1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:55:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --nlaUAs3n9WJ1uL11efbVwsWVw0G9N1Rb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/02/13 10:43, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I see with the pkg-1.2 there is support for using multiple > repositories. What is not clear is how to control the search order in t= hese > repositories. I'd like to arrange that my local repository is searched > first with a fallback to the official repository, primarily so that I c= an > avoid compiling some of the monsters like libreoffice, firefox etc. whi= le > still having packages with my selected options and custom patches where= I > want them. >=20 > Anyone know if it's possible to set this up reliably ? Repositories are searched in order of the names of the .conf files in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos -- not sure how adding /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf into that mix affects things though. However you can easily test as it's also the order that repositories are listed in the 'pkg -vv' output.= This was not, as far as I can tell, /intended/ to be the way this sort of functionality should be controlled, but by happy accident it seems to work pretty well. The more sophisticated solvers we're planning on introducing will probably muddy the waters a bit as far as matching what the user thinks the preferred repository should be and what pkg(8) chooses, as it will consider a larger range of factors in order to get a consistent dependency graph. You should also be aware of using 'pkg annotate' to force a package to be installed from a specific repository. See the section 'WORKING WITH MULTIPLE REPOSITORIES' in pkg-repository(5). 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 15:17:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5348F70E for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (uk1rly2283-a.eechost.net [217.69.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199211BD4 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VnV9Z-0006QI-7S; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:11:17 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VnVFm-00049A-LL; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:17:42 +0000 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:17:42 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Multiple pkg repositories Message-Id: <20131202151742.30be3ddf0f3d944e50200817@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <529C9154.40606@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20131202104355.37e2ca24f4068e1d86000134@sohara.org> <529C9154.40606@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:17:45 -0000 On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:55:32 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/02/13 10:43, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I see with the pkg-1.2 there is support for using multiple > > repositories. What is not clear is how to control the search order in > > these repositories. I'd like to arrange that my local repository is > > searched first with a fallback to the official repository, primarily so > > that I can avoid compiling some of the monsters like libreoffice, > > firefox etc. while still having packages with my selected options and > > custom patches where I want them. > > > > Anyone know if it's possible to set this up reliably ? > > Repositories are searched in order of the names of the .conf files in > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos -- not sure how adding /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf > into that mix affects things though. However you can easily test as > it's also the order that repositories are listed in the 'pkg -vv' output. Thank you. > You should also be aware of using 'pkg annotate' to force a package to > be installed from a specific repository. See the section 'WORKING WITH > MULTIPLE REPOSITORIES' in pkg-repository(5). Ah, I'd missed that man page - useful. After reading it I think you're right that pkg annotate is the way to go to get reliable behaviour, that feature of always pulling the latest version no matter which repository it appears in may spoil my game otherwise. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 15:56:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE2652B0 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 734671EFC for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB2FuEK7014353; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 08:56:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB2FuDN7014350; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 08:56:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 08:56:13 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Julien Cigar Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook In-Reply-To: <20131202103122.GN66981@mordor.lan> Message-ID: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202103122.GN66981@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 02 Dec 2013 08:56:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: "Mike." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:56:15 -0000 On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: > If you want to use GPT with gmirror you may want to mirror each > partition instead of the whole disk. > > For example on my box I have the following: https://dpaste.de/Rb3S There are a couple of potential problems with that. The big one is when a disk fails and is replaced. If you're not careful, the rebuild of all those mirrored partitions will start at the same time. Head contention will bring that to a near-standstill. It also puts a heavy load on the drive that still works. Hopefully it is not the same model and age as the one that failed, or its "warranty timer" may also be close to expiring. A less-serious problem is that only the partitions are mirrored. That leaves out metadata like the partition tables and bootcode, but those typically do not change very often and might not be a problem. The admin has to remember to manually install such things on a new replacement disk, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 17:13:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FC0914B for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0554A156B for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:470:89e9:1:feed::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3dYCb23Yprz1DNq for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:13:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dYCb10PN6z1Bjc for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:13:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:13:32 -0500 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:13:37 -0000 On 12/1/2013 at 10:21 AM Warren Block wrote: |On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, Mike. wrote: | |> On 11/30/2013 at 2:17 PM Warren Block wrote: |[snip] |> |> A question about the wording of that paragraph. The second |> sentence states: |> |> "Because GPT partition schemes also store metadata at the end of |> the disk, mirroring full GPT disks with gmirror(8) is not |> recommended." |> |> |> The word "full" is ambiguous. Is it to mean, "full" as in 'full |> of data', or "full" as in 'the entire disk'? | |It means mirroring an entire disk, including boot blocks and metadata, |rather than just parts of it like partitions or filesystems. | |I'll work on rewriting that paragraph for clarity. ============= I noticed a change in the wording this morning. :) My understanding is that MBR can be used with drives only up to and including 2TB in size. So if I use MBR, the maximum drive size I could use would be 2TB. Is that correct? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 17:26:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F867AF8 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FAE41650 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83638278AA; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:26:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB2HQNWf005406; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:26:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:26:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Mike." Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Message-Id: <20131202182623.43331984.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:26:47 -0000 On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:13:32 -0500, Mike. wrote: > My understanding is that MBR can be used with drives only up to > and including 2TB in size. So if I use MBR, the maximum drive > size I could use would be 2TB. Is that correct? Don't confuse partitioning schemes and file systems. Both are different things, happening on different "layers". To make it simpler than it probably is: Partitioning = a) MBR with classic tools (fdisk, bsdlabel) b) MBR with modern tool (gpart) c) GPT (gpart) d) Dedicated (only the "bsdlabel part") RAID concepts = a) mirror b) stripe c) combined and extended forms ... File system = a) UFS option +U: soft updates option +J: journal b) ZFS Of course ZFS can handle things like "RAID concepts" already internally, whereas UFS would use gstripe and gmirror as "little helpers" - it will run on top of them, i. e., you initialize the device that represents the whole mirror instead of individually dealing with the drives that the mirror is constructed of. Regarding UFS's 2 TB limitation: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/ Additionally, MBR can be troublesome on bigger hard disks or stripes. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html Today's consensus seems to be: If you use ZFS, let ZFS deal with everything. If you use UFS, use gpart for preparation work. Use GPT when possible, MBR only in exceptions, and dedicated if and only if you really _really_ know what you're doing. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 17:35:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490E22F2 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CCA3170F for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:470:89e9:1:feed::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3dYD3s5k9vz1DPw for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dYD3r30GCz1Bjc for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:35:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <201312021235030914.007AF1DF@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: <20131202182623.43331984.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202182623.43331984.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:35:03 -0500 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:35:07 -0000 On 12/2/2013 at 6:26 PM Polytropon wrote: |On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:13:32 -0500, Mike. wrote: |> My understanding is that MBR can be used with drives only up to |> and including 2TB in size. So if I use MBR, the maximum drive |> size I could use would be 2TB. Is that correct? | |Don't confuse partitioning schemes and file systems. Both are |different things, happening on different "layers". To make it |simpler than it probably is: | |Partitioning = | a) MBR with classic tools (fdisk, bsdlabel) | b) MBR with modern tool (gpart) | c) GPT (gpart) | d) Dedicated (only the "bsdlabel part") | |RAID concepts = | a) mirror | b) stripe | c) combined and extended forms ... | |File system = | a) UFS | option +U: soft updates | option +J: journal | b) ZFS | |Of course ZFS can handle things like "RAID concepts" already |internally, whereas UFS would use gstripe and gmirror as |"little helpers" - it will run on top of them, i. e., you |initialize the device that represents the whole mirror |instead of individually dealing with the drives that the |mirror is constructed of. | |Regarding UFS's 2 TB limitation: | |http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/ | |Additionally, MBR can be troublesome on bigger hard disks |or stripes. | |http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html | |Today's consensus seems to be: | |If you use ZFS, let ZFS deal with everything. | |If you use UFS, use gpart for preparation work. Use GPT when |possible, MBR only in exceptions, and dedicated if and only |if you really _really_ know what you're doing. :-) ============= Following the bsdinstall-partitioning link you cited, and then following a link on that page, I wind up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record which states: "...The organization of the partition table in the MBR limits the maximum addressable storage space of a disk to 2 TB ...." That (and other places) is where I got the 2TB limit of MBR into my head. Am I misunderstanding that statement? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 17:46:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDAC692C for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C67F17CF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F223E27793; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:46:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB2Hkgqm005466; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:46:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:46:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Mike." Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Message-Id: <20131202184642.d35c4548.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201312021235030914.007AF1DF@smtp.24cl.home> References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202182623.43331984.freebsd@edvax.de> <201312021235030914.007AF1DF@smtp.24cl.home> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:46:58 -0000 On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:35:03 -0500, Mike. wrote: > On 12/2/2013 at 6:26 PM Polytropon wrote: > > |On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:13:32 -0500, Mike. wrote: > |> My understanding is that MBR can be used with drives only up > to > |> and including 2TB in size. So if I use MBR, the maximum > drive > |> size I could use would be 2TB. Is that correct? > |[...] > |Regarding UFS's 2 TB limitation: > | > |http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/ > | > |Additionally, MBR can be troublesome on bigger hard disks > |or stripes. > | > |http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html > > | > |Today's consensus seems to be: > | > |If you use ZFS, let ZFS deal with everything. > | > |If you use UFS, use gpart for preparation work. Use GPT when > |possible, MBR only in exceptions, and dedicated if and only > |if you really _really_ know what you're doing. :-) > ============= > > > Following the bsdinstall-partitioning link you cited, and then > following a link on that page, I wind up here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record > > which states: > > "...The organization of the partition table in the MBR limits > the maximum addressable storage space of a disk to 2 TB ...." > > > That (and other places) is where I got the 2TB limit of MBR into > my head. Am I misunderstanding that statement? I think you're correct regarding this finding: The data type 2^32 (because of 32 bit) defines the 2 TB limit. It applies both on MBR (which stores 32 bit values) and UFS (which also stores 32 bit values). However, I've never dealt with disks > 2 TB _and_ UFS before, so I can't add specific individual findings. :-) Again, consensus seems to be: If you have big disks, use ZFS. You use ZFS because the big disks are built into or attached to big computers with sufficient RAM, so it won't be a problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:10:10 -0000 On 12/2/2013 at 6:46 PM Polytropon wrote: | [snip] | |Again, consensus seems to be: If you have big disks, use ZFS. |You use ZFS because the big disks are built into or attached |to big computers with sufficient RAM, so it won't be a problem. ============= I do plan to migrate to ZFS once I acquire the new hardware to support it. This mirror expedition is an temporary and interim solution. Thanks. 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Kind Regards Rose Online Marketing Executive From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 20:40:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84251AE5 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB40813D4 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd.asgard.uk ([92.238.71.115]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id wkgC1m01f2VE8Jc01kgDKB; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 20:40:13 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [92.238.71.115] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=Qfbov6rv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:117 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:17 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=g8DGSEr-gRIA:10 a=z6OmtuC8ihAA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U4kjxnpeAAAA:8 a=RIXHdJ6alCwA:10 a=sJkTq2K36ST8_bpfWQ0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:40:11 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <20131202071502.a72c0029.freebsd@edvax.de> <529C4213.2010307@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <529C4213.2010307@sdf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201312022040.11070.freebsd01@dgmm.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 20:40:15 -0000 On Monday 02 December 2013 08:17:23 cary wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 00:27:18 +0000, dgmm wrote: > >> On Sunday 01 December 2013 23:52:00 dgmm wrote: > >>> My system reboots at 3am when /etc/periodic/daily/450.status-security > >> > >> I've now narrowed it down to: > >> > >> /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid > >> > >> ...but have no idea why it might a catastophic crash/reboot. > > > > A wild guess: File system damage side effect that is being > > triggered by something "non-obvious". To make sure this is > > _not_ the case, reboot into SUM or via live media and perform > > a forced (!) file system check. Note that just in case you > > might think "but I run background fsck and preen, that should > > be sufficient" - it's not; there are few things that only a > > full, _normal_ file system check can detect and repair. > > > > I'm mentioning this because similar situations have been > > discussed on this list, and finally there was some strange > > file system defect responsible... > > > > But also make sure system power is good, and the system does > > not become unstable when on load. > > Had a 3 a.m. reboot last week. > /usr was corrupted because of my own > errors made while compiling ports. > > $ fsck -t ufs -fv /dev/{usr-partition} Thanks both of you. I now know why the phrase "blindingly obvious" was coined. fsck found an error on / and another on /home. (Yes,I followed the advice in the handbook to not go with seperate /usr and /var. I think if I ever rebuild from scratch I'll go back to the old way.) I've manually run /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid twice without incident. This does bring to mind something I'd not previously thought of. Except for the rare times I leave a job running overnight, periodic never runs. I'll have a to make a decision on what to do about that. I have a coupleof options in mind, all of which have ups and downs. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 2 21:21:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A151757 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C39391857 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB2LLnNw016910; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 14:21:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB2LLnVU016907; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 14:21:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 14:21:49 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Mike." Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook In-Reply-To: <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> Message-ID: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:21:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:21:51 -0000 On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Mike. wrote: > My understanding is that MBR can be used with drives only up to > and including 2TB in size. So if I use MBR, the maximum drive > size I could use would be 2TB. Is that correct? As far as I recall, MBR expects 512-byte blocks and uses 32-bit values. The total number works out to 2TB (2^32*512). Just recently, someone in the forums had an external drive, MBR format, but 4K blocks. There were problems, although I don't know if FreeBSD was at fault. I have not tried MBR on a drive larger than 2TB. I suspect it would be safe to use the first 2TB and ignore the rest, but that really ought to be verified. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 00:17:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5993BF7D for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 00:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FFA16B5 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 00:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP371 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:15:55 -0800 X-TMN: [WOwjAnDw5N3kaAHmBMHocfnlFE4eaAZ1] X-Originating-Email: [drew@mykitchentable.net] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([69.62.230.77]) by BLU0-SMTP371.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:15:51 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:15:47 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 9 On ESXi 5.5? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 131202-2, 12/02/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2013 00:15:52.0091 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3758EB0:01CEEFBC] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 00:17:01 -0000 I recently purchased an HP Proliant ML310 to replace an old server that happily ran FBSD for 13 years before it died last month. Now because the hardware will support it, I'd like to learn about vSphere or ESXi or whatever they are calling it these days as we are beginning to migrate that way at work. Thus I would like to rebuild my FBSD box as a guest. My new server has 4, 1TB drives. The onboard RAID controller will only do mirroring or striping without parity. It will not do what I know of as RAID5 where parity info is spread across the disks. I had hoped to use the 4 drives as one logical 3 TB drive with parity. But since I can't, I have set it up as 4 single drives and therefore have 4 different drives in which I could create virtual drives for my FBSD guest. It was my thought that then I could use these 4 virtual drives and build my FBSD on ZFS, just as I would if it were bare metal. I used to use ZFS and like the redundancy it provides. However I've googled and there seems to be a lot of posts about ZFS not working well in a virtual machine. Does anyone have any insight on this? Good idea? Bad idea that will bite me later? It is most important to me to have a machine that is reliable and just runs like my old one did than to do anything fancy. I like a raid1z pool because I could lose a disk and not lose data. However I do not want to cause problems by using it in a vm since they are so easy to restore from backups. Thanks, Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 00:59:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8113B49A for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 00:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F94188D for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 00:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP278 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:59:33 -0800 X-TMN: [uYH6+nY6jRnbuCSRDB4gw1KgwSDLBwrW] X-Originating-Email: [drew@mykitchentable.net] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([69.62.230.77]) by BLU0-SMTP278.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:59:31 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:59:26 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 On ESXi 5.5? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 131202-2, 12/02/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2013 00:59:31.0238 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC97AC60:01CEEFC2] Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 00:59:34 -0000 On 12/2/2013 4:31 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> I recently purchased an HP Proliant ML310 to replace an old server that >> happily ran FBSD for 13 years before it died last month. >> >> Now because the hardware will support it, I'd like to learn about vSphere or >> ESXi or whatever they are calling it these days as we are beginning to >> migrate that way at work. Thus I would like to rebuild my FBSD box as a >> guest. >> >> My new server has 4, 1TB drives. The onboard RAID controller will only do >> mirroring or striping without parity. It will not do what I know of as >> RAID5 where parity info is spread across the disks. > Are you sure? I.e., are you sure it isn't just a driver issue? Do > you have the HP-specific distro for ESXi? The one you get from VMware > won't have the right driver for that RAID controller, for sure. Yes, I am sure. I do have the HP distro for ESXi. It seems I have to buy a Flash Back Write Cache (FWBC) module to get RAID5. >> I used to use ZFS and like the redundancy it provides. However I've googled >> and there seems to be a lot of posts about ZFS not working well in a virtual >> machine. >> >> Does anyone have any insight on this? Good idea? Bad idea that will bite >> me later? It is most important to me to have a machine that is reliable and >> just runs like my old one did than to do anything fancy. I like a raid1z >> pool because I could lose a disk and not lose data. However I do not want >> to cause problems by using it in a vm since they are so easy to restore from >> backups. > The only way to use ZFS pools in any reasonable fashion with ESXi is > to present iSCSI targets to the ESXi server from the host that has the > pools. Just my $0.02 ($0.11 adjusted for inflation). Thank for your thoughts. However I don't have a server with pools. It was my (probably bad) idea to create 4 virtual drives (one on each physical drive) in the ESXi software for the FBSD guest. Then create the ZFS pool in that FBSD guest. Cheers, Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 01:38:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C3FF897 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com (mail-pa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FF641A3C for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id fb1so2195056pad.18 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aaNmL75eEG2640XzE5dCDZtuQ7Nf9eI/s2xqGrKWesI=; b=KupbLs50oTfyh1VWsTh7lk1q8EoLQT/Iaevn4HwV6VqZpQzkQ+EmcHkfwP+kG4zy7M PFmTRcHx6IgaDktuiQbAtIXO52i1zO52Q7TXHvzTwE7b87aP/R/yUJAWjw0xNq3nF2MM PUjMr8lB/gyQtG4WtfZUZZ2yXHecrmuE+8nXTU8IO9s8BEHYINVVClc9YV1fe+y4YYYT DEzmc63WzV4XufTjIJF6+bys4mz3rCox/MdP92It116rPRRLPAldKPdMD/xPZ3+F6a1O tR62tgJT6Ustlz0GRqb5h09KawRrErotPzFQvcgoLVNcpqx6iitfetH6mC2AMGQcPxNF yNNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.66.33 with SMTP id c1mr35317479pbt.73.1386034727798; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.129.229 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.129.229 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 17:38:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:38:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Qemu / freeBsd on Android. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michel_Camir=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 01:38:48 -0000 I'm completely new to freeBsd wich I intend to use via Qemu on my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 , Gt N5110 . Some say freeBsd is dead and that it would be better to consider Gnu/Linux as a successor. I don't know. I have some experience with Dos so, a command line doesn't look lethal to me. I would like to install a Gui in freeBsd 1st, and after install music applications from open sources like RoseGarden. Or maybe installing a different Os instead of freeBsd in Qemu. What do you think/ recommend. Many thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 01:39:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05E55929 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C33471A45 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id o6so14246690oag.33 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:38:56 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c3gwpqR9GyeCk+XaLHasoKv+Z8xpWU96nNw7HsZIjA4=; b=RmcJbyBx8rOoDMG/r5EQk4qSw9dPdUFiOh9fPM7KGkH9rxwiMhrQU0RubG2nhdmbmI ww8GJFHxQitM4axeZNTs1WAo1/6pW6jx8YigFm2OOSDEKVXnwBkYToFfKDWGfe69dZbC f+5EFN9vRbpAN3rsP5pvOGUvCiWasEwR/zcYgNDabMRzYHjwG7c9dVagKEM1bgWDPZsk r1oFVh0sEKte7ydlRd+JxowoGT5LwoHpKLGP3LF0+/fbbuJCIXCC1DbvU4gJ3oVfLfiK 19YdiXaTAGvyJKkeNk+vuRJZmoNnJuFYL3p83JaaMjbpSlT1pp+OjUheTBF/EVGJgO6x B5Rg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKE3e/4901kAvyVDUnK4nxW9/mo6GiQr/r2co4Q+A0yrkuKUQtTg2wJylU1/Uw0sxY/mMZ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.22.135 with SMTP id d7mr6248524obf.1.1386030661047; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:31:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.21.69 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:31:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:31:00 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 On ESXi 5.5? From: Michael Sierchio To: Drew Tomlinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 01:39:03 -0000 On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I recently purchased an HP Proliant ML310 to replace an old server that > happily ran FBSD for 13 years before it died last month. > > Now because the hardware will support it, I'd like to learn about vSphere or > ESXi or whatever they are calling it these days as we are beginning to > migrate that way at work. Thus I would like to rebuild my FBSD box as a > guest. > > My new server has 4, 1TB drives. The onboard RAID controller will only do > mirroring or striping without parity. It will not do what I know of as > RAID5 where parity info is spread across the disks. Are you sure? I.e., are you sure it isn't just a driver issue? Do you have the HP-specific distro for ESXi? The one you get from VMware won't have the right driver for that RAID controller, for sure. > I used to use ZFS and like the redundancy it provides. However I've googled > and there seems to be a lot of posts about ZFS not working well in a virtual > machine. > > Does anyone have any insight on this? Good idea? Bad idea that will bite > me later? It is most important to me to have a machine that is reliable and > just runs like my old one did than to do anything fancy. I like a raid1z > pool because I could lose a disk and not lose data. However I do not want > to cause problems by using it in a vm since they are so easy to restore from > backups. The only way to use ZFS pools in any reasonable fashion with ESXi is to present iSCSI targets to the ESXi server from the host that has the pools. Just my $0.02 ($0.11 adjusted for inflation). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 02:07:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62F9DBBD for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 02:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 276371C99 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 02:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:470:89e9:1:feed::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3dYRQf1gv6z1DN5 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dYRQc5MKYz1Bjc for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:07:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <201312022107040820.024FB565@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:07:04 -0500 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 02:07:08 -0000 On 12/2/2013 at 2:21 PM Warren Block wrote: |On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Mike. wrote: | |> My understanding is that MBR can be used with drives only up to |> and including 2TB in size. So if I use MBR, the maximum drive |> size I could use would be 2TB. Is that correct? | |As far as I recall, MBR expects 512-byte blocks and uses 32-bit values. |The total number works out to 2TB (2^32*512). | |Just recently, someone in the forums had an external drive, MBR format, |but 4K blocks. There were problems, although I don't know if FreeBSD |was at fault. | |I have not tried MBR on a drive larger than 2TB. I suspect it would be |safe to use the first 2TB and ignore the rest, but that really ought to |be verified. ============= At this point, the drives are 2TB, no more. So I should be OK. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 03:23:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 236DF906 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 03:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B0710BD for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 03:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.163] ([24.237.133.115]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MX7007WKLAXDJ40@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 02:23:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.72,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-12-02_04:2013-12-02,2013-12-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1312020224 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook From: Peter Giessel In-reply-to: <20131202184642.d35c4548.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:23:20 -0900 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202182623.43331984.freebsd@edvax.de> <201312021235030914.007AF1DF@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202184642.d35c4548.freebsd@edvax.de> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 03:23:41 -0000 On 2013, Dec 2, at 8:46, Polytropon wrote: > I think you're correct regarding this finding: The data type 2^32 > (because of 32 bit) defines the 2 TB limit. It applies both on > MBR (which stores 32 bit values) and UFS (which also stores 32 > bit values). However, I've never dealt with disks > 2 TB _and_ > UFS before, so I can't add specific individual findings. :-) UFS works on drives bigger than 3 TB (ref /dev/da1p1 and = /dev/mirror/gm0.journal): [17:20][media: ~]> df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 247M 216M 11M 95% / devfs 1.0k 1.0k 0B 100% /dev /dev/da1p1 4T 3.6T 82G 98% /media /dev/da0s1e 3.9G 5.1M 3.6G 0% /tmp /dev/da0s1f 7.5G 5.8G 1.1G 84% /usr /dev/da0s1d 3.9G 733M 2.9G 20% /var /dev/mirror/gm0.journal 2.7T 1.8T 645G 74% /media/mythtv [17:20][media: ~]> more /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump = Pass# /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 = 0 /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 = 1 /dev/da1p1 /media ufs rw 2 = 2 /dev/da0s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 = 2 /dev/da0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 = 2 /dev/da0s1d /var ufs rw 2 = 2 /dev/mirror/gm0.journal /media/mythtv ufs rw,async 2 = 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 = 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 05:46:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA7EA932; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 05:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4119E16C3; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 05:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB35I8er030095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Dec 2013 23:18:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 23:18:08 -0600 From: dweimer To: Drew Tomlinson Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 On ESXi =?UTF-8?Q?=35=2E=35=3F?= Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0-beta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 05:46:05 -0000 On 12/02/2013 6:15 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I recently purchased an HP Proliant ML310 to replace an old server > that happily ran FBSD for 13 years before it died last month. > > Now because the hardware will support it, I'd like to learn about > vSphere or ESXi or whatever they are calling it these days as we are > beginning to migrate that way at work. Thus I would like to rebuild > my FBSD box as a guest. > > My new server has 4, 1TB drives. The onboard RAID controller will > only do mirroring or striping without parity. It will not do what I > know of as RAID5 where parity info is spread across the disks. I had > hoped to use the 4 drives as one logical 3 TB drive with parity. But > since I can't, I have set it up as 4 single drives and therefore have > 4 different drives in which I could create virtual drives for my FBSD > guest. It was my thought that then I could use these 4 virtual drives > and build my FBSD on ZFS, just as I would if it were bare metal. > > I used to use ZFS and like the redundancy it provides. However I've > googled and there seems to be a lot of posts about ZFS not working > well in a virtual machine. > > Does anyone have any insight on this? Good idea? Bad idea that will > bite me later? It is most important to me to have a machine that is > reliable and just runs like my old one did than to do anything fancy. > I like a raid1z pool because I could lose a disk and not lose data. > However I do not want to cause problems by using it in a vm since they > are so easy to restore from backups. > > Thanks, > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I have multiple FreeBSD 9.0, 9.1, and 9.2 machines running on ESX 5.1, a single 9.2, and a 10 beta build on esx 5.5. All running ZFS, but not raidz, or even mirrors, just single disk (disk storage is in redundant iSCSI san or direct attach raid), my systems are booting from zfs for the benefit of boot environments. Its stable, but I haven't done any benchmarks for performance as the ones I am running are not heavy I/O. If the system supports Direct path I/O it should work without a whole lot of overhead, and give you near native speed to the disks, but the hardware that is supported is fairly limited and on the costly side. If you have the hardware already, and have the time to test it, give it a shot, and see if the performance is where you need it. Its all going to depend on your usage case if its going to work. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 06:38:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEDD6D3C for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 06:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC25B18DD for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 06:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E4223D164; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:38:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB36cUTp007459; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:38:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:38:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Peter Giessel Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Message-Id: <20131203073830.bdc50afd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202182623.43331984.freebsd@edvax.de> <201312021235030914.007AF1DF@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202184642.d35c4548.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 06:38:53 -0000 On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:23:20 -0900, Peter Giessel wrote: > UFS works on drives bigger than 3 TB (ref /dev/da1p1 and /dev/mirror/gm0.journal): That's impressive! Did you apply any special tuning for newfs, or did you require something "non-standard" when creating the partitions? I'm just asking because sooner or later I will probably get disks > 2 TB and intend to use them with UFS. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 07:09:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE02B220 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70E671A5B for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.196.81.160] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2013 07:07:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.159] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2013 07:07:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2013 07:07:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1386054438; bh=Gj5kjeqqZSGr+WLNCNfFVvVGs2btJt1hM4VPnQmhQSc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:References; b=sbC9CY8UJikGvXXqsh6UdHkfyCze+9o9jfglyvrg0VZ2zJ/t4bA2j+ZiHxOLJIBYaagP1ydNru1ekM4wM3nKaHSqHFum/qpFGIxW5fjYd7EMHMDP4wMVLJ3IzBCKHalqjBBju1dT4skp5rP13QB1Qu1M9XbBqUy0bBP/ngpbsoI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 251695.62121.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <251695.62121.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:07:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: iOf0MNoVM1kAmi0Zq79ye_ME7n5.SD9EHOHzAgkz_iHZE_w cCeeD8vMlNhghjLqbo0MfKfq4WBBLwmbQ3L8AxziYzDgeUoOHOwdviRZuF.X idIYNfWgOTO98Jhe2jSqicP21i9yeg90HAqnEE370ZkI5HrfZrtNkIkN2Apx PhbmslJ3v7FKC3BYh0v.r9vuixJ_aN4LUgdiJd_ZHpbEhz54OdCduU5YOJxP HCPUKZ.23vpiG.q9D6vkZR69VAAGNbD1XxEF1H1H54ZTyn_cGi17TI9OO.Im T8Q0RuC9Au.cuuvQIkN3ddnaT4x.9LrJcCflmenFlhf6o_AUZZhwmxUWtEca M_UFxpQ8QWot0LrZ9.sUqnHIg6rb4SD0GB_SOaKtHx_BleqE9j1xC1cAJ1lU yq9Kw2xCOU0cyP3FuyWKIvAWSKAB1za2vuepbSaccbX3ixWJ.F9FY3xvmGWy CVPMc3ghLEt2n7v4cA88QkRxBsAzK8oB9AqWzN_cHWjS03FUnS0hYrl8sAQE zQiZQ27HbYe8jxAw9CzSK9bxxnzvp73rB6gOnBNEp2Dl.wkCWGGj06suZv3O 1R.HZyUhVTavdNnH19v_6sTt2ntXKlJYhoKyh...9Cwn1BN1ln80cFHaXSMt G9nt44C28W1k7pDEz0vgqqPBm_NxI8aYRwiPpL3iBfd2P.IA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with ) by smtp119.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Dec 2013 07:07:18 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:09:20 -0000 from Warren Block: > As far as I recall, MBR expects 512-byte blocks and uses 32-bit > values. The total number works out to 2TB (2^32*512). > Just recently, someone in the forums had an external drive, MBR > format, but 4K blocks. There were problems, although I don't know if > FreeBSD was at fault. > I have not tried MBR on a drive larger than 2TB. I suspect it would > be safe to use the first 2TB and ignore the rest, but that really > ought to be verified. There are ways (kludges) to get MBR on a drive > 2TB. Western Digital My Book 3TB USB 3.0 hard drive was formatted with a single huge NTFS partition with some software. In order to copy the stuff, which I've never used, I had to use the System Rescue CD. Subsequently I migrated to GPT, deleted the huge partition, and made my own GPT partitions. OpenBSD has a kludge with fdisk + disklabel whereby everything over 2TB goes into one (or more) disklabel partitions, but boot partition must be entirely within first 2TB. I never tried that and don't plan to. fdisk can't see the slice that goes past 2TB, but OpenBSD can, according to what I read on OpenBSD online documentation. I never tried that. OpenBSD can't access my hard drive at all for lack of support for USB 3.0 and GPT. DragonFlyBSD latest release, 3.6.0, downloaded, bzip2 -d and dd'ed to USB sticks recognizes my hard drive partitions but can't mount any. So all I can do with OpenBSD is download the Live USB from liveusb-openbsd.sourceforge.net, run 7z e on the download, which is 7-zipped. 7-zip (archivers/p7zip) is in FreeBSD ports, which is how I built it. NetBSD supports GPT, but the dk wedges are not as elegant as what FreeBSD and Linux do. NetBSD seems to be just starting with USB 3.0 support in -current. NetBSD and OpenBSD still use preassigned device nodes with MAKEDEV such as Linux and FreeBSD had some years back. This is actually sort of a combined response to two threads, other one being Re: kernel "mismatch" on r256420. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 07:40:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1945273F for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBD31CF8 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.163] ([24.237.133.115]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MX7001ADZZBP440@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:40:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.72,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-12-03_03:2013-12-03,2013-12-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1312020301 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook From: Peter Giessel In-reply-to: <20131203073830.bdc50afd.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:40:22 -0900 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <61E74CD0-887D-4824-9752-3142D7ABAABB@mac.com> References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <201312021213320528.00673D5F@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202182623.43331984.freebsd@edvax.de> <201312021235030914.007AF1DF@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202184642.d35c4548.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131203073830.bdc50afd.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:40:35 -0000 On 2013, Dec 2, at 21:38, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:23:20 -0900, Peter Giessel wrote: >> UFS works on drives bigger than 3 TB (ref /dev/da1p1 and = /dev/mirror/gm0.journal): >=20 > That's impressive! Did you apply any special tuning for newfs, > or did you require something "non-standard" when creating the > partitions? I'm just asking because sooner or later I will > probably get disks > 2 TB and intend to use them with UFS. :-) As I recall, with the gmirrored 3TB drives (/dev/mirror/gm0.journal), I = pretty much followed this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-gjournal.html But of course, I substituted: gjournal label /dev/mirror/gm0 and newfs -O 2 -J /dev/mirror/gm0.journal for: gjournal label /dev/da4 and newfs -O 2 -J /dev/da4.journal respectively. Also a big *THANK YOU* to Warren Block as I found the Handbook section = 19.4.3. extremely useful in setting up gmirror. There are no tweaks or special tuning. Its an old repurposed Pentium 4 = running: # uname -a FreeBSD media.REDACTED 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0: Sun Nov 10 = 08:09:31 AKST 2013 root@media.REDACTED:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MEDIA = i386 The kernel is nothing special, just a GENERIC kernel with a bunch of = stuff that I wasn=92t using commented out to save resources. /dev/daX is a 3ware raid5 divided into 2 volumes (so I could use = traditional MBR, etc with the smaller volume): #tw_cli /c0 show all /c0 Driver Version =3D 3.80.06.003 /c0 Model =3D 9550SXU-4LP /c0 Available Memory =3D 112MB /c0 Firmware Version =3D FE9X 3.08.00.029 /c0 Bios Version =3D BE9X 3.10.00.003 /c0 Boot Loader Version =3D BL9X 3.02.00.001 /c0 Serial Number =3D L320912A9410199 /c0 PCB Version =3D Rev 032 /c0 PCHIP Version =3D 1.60 /c0 ACHIP Version =3D 1.90 /c0 Number of Ports =3D 4 /c0 Number of Drives =3D 4 /c0 Number of Units =3D 1 /c0 Total Optimal Units =3D 1 /c0 Not Optimal Units =3D 0=20 /c0 JBOD Export Policy =3D off /c0 Disk Spinup Policy =3D 1 /c0 Spinup Stagger Time Policy (sec) =3D 1 /c0 Auto-Carving Policy =3D off /c0 Auto-Carving Size =3D 2048 GB /c0 Auto-Rebuild Policy =3D on /c0 Rebuild Rate =3D 1 /c0 Verify Rate =3D 1 /c0 Controller Bus Type =3D PCIX /c0 Controller Bus Width =3D 64 bits /c0 Controller Bus Speed =3D 66 Mhz Unit UnitType Status %RCmpl %V/I/M Stripe Size(GB) Cache = AVrfy = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- u0 RAID-5 OK - - 64K 4190.92 ON = OFF =20 Port Status Unit Size Blocks Serial --------------------------------------------------------------- p0 OK u0 1.82 TB 3907029168 Z1F3MCT3 = <- replacement drive=20 p1 OK u0 1.82 TB 3907029168 S1F0CN97 = <- replacement drive=20 p2 OK u0 1.82 TB 3907029168 W1E430FV = <- replacement drive p3 OK u0 1.36 TB 2930277168 9VS2X5P6 = <- original drive 3 of the 4 drives have died in the 5 years since I set this up (hence = the size disparity)... #tw_cli /c0/u0 show all /c0/u0 status =3D OK /c0/u0 is not rebuilding, its current state is OK /c0/u0 is not verifying, its current state is OK /c0/u0 is initialized. /c0/u0 Write Cache =3D on /c0/u0 volume(s) =3D 2 /c0/u0 name =3D =20 /c0/u0 serial number =3D 9VS2Y6AV80EE4B00AB32=20 /c0/u0 Ignore ECC policy =3D off =20 /c0/u0 Auto Verify Policy =3D off =20 /c0/u0 Storsave Policy =3D protection =20 /c0/u0 Command Queuing Policy =3D on =20 Unit UnitType Status %RCmpl %V/I/M Port Stripe Size(GB) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ u0 RAID-5 OK - - - 64K 4190.92 = =20 u0-0 DISK OK - - p3 - 1396.97 = =20 u0-1 DISK OK - - p2 - 1396.97 = =20 u0-2 DISK OK - - p1 - 1396.97 = =20 u0-3 DISK OK - - p0 - 1396.97 = =20 u0/v0 Volume - - - - - 20 = =20 u0/v1 Volume - - - - - 4170.92= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 09:24:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11A2DBDF for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7023B126A for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id wxQC1m00E516WCc01xQE5a; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:24:14 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Z9fVQhhA c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=g8DGSEr-gRIA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=RIXHdJ6alCwA:10 a=q0n7p7B2q6PqFC4qvXAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VnmDE-00016I-Ad for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:24:12 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <529C4213.2010307@sdf.org> <201312022040.11070.freebsd01@dgmm.net> In-Reply-To: <201312022040.11070.freebsd01@dgmm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201312030924.10969.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:24:23 -0000 On Monday 02 Dec 2013 20:40:11 dgmm wrote: > This does bring to mind something I'd not previously thought of. Except > for the rare times I leave a job running overnight, periodic never > runs. I'll have a to make a decision on what to do about that. Consider sysutils/anacron Anacron can be used to execute commands periodically, with a frequency specified in days. Unlike cron(8), it does not assume that the machine is running continuously. Hence, it can be used on machines that aren't running 24 hours a day, to control daily, weekly, and monthly jobs that are usually controlled by cron. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 09:26:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3784D9E for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway02.edpnet.net (relaygateway02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3701294 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:26:10 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmIHAIminVJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABagwc4g020VAKBF4EYF3SCJQEBBAEjMyMQCw4KAgIFEw4CAg8FJSSIDgqwVolbhmQTBIEpjGprB4JrNYETA5gTAZITgyo7 X-IPAS-Result: AmIHAIminVJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABagwc4g020VAKBF4EYF3SCJQEBBAEjMyMQCw4KAgIFEw4CAg8FJSSIDgqwVolbhmQTBIEpjGprB4JrNYETA5gTAZITgyo7 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.93,816,1378850400"; d="scan'208";a="209607091" Received: from 77.109.118.201.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.118.201]) by relaygateway02.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 03 Dec 2013 10:10:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 10:26:04 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Warren Block Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Message-ID: <20131203092604.GA86280@mordor.lan> References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202103122.GN66981@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: "Mike." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:26:11 -0000 On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 08:56:13AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: > > > If you want to use GPT with gmirror you may want to mirror each > > partition instead of the whole disk. > > > > For example on my box I have the following: https://dpaste.de/Rb3S > > There are a couple of potential problems with that. The big one is when > a disk fails and is replaced. If you're not careful, the rebuild of all > those mirrored partitions will start at the same time. Head contention > will bring that to a near-standstill. It also puts a heavy load on the > drive that still works. Hopefully it is not the same model and age as > the one that failed, or its "warranty timer" may also be close to > expiring. That's true, I turned off autosynchronization of stale components to avoid this kind of bad scenario .. > > A less-serious problem is that only the partitions are mirrored. That > leaves out metadata like the partition tables and bootcode, but those > typically do not change very often and might not be a problem. The > admin has to remember to manually install such things on a new > replacement disk, though. It's just a matter of gpart backup / gpart restore, right ? -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 09:48:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D91B150F for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x236.google.com (mail-qa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9606113D1 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id f11so5428797qae.20 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 01:48:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UAuBaFdh6Bg5GVdiIiQiw5LQqi2XOJOvtoogjDGLUAw=; b=mAAr2+XGvNHnyLBuO1vS2oYfYiBhBzKMtOBtSk9EIlpH8bE9sSHKY6P1I7U+GR1ThN 59VfpDmGX4UUqhHvZY1FBCuORJ95Xr+fcO5fvlEE9izoLcRl+lSO3CUhmdUTh38VHEqB 7X5UgnuKzyE0WqcqecmtpFbPKXkoewaU8fKj0+9e6WN9vAF2KkuBOXqvccnnabELEv6e OpwVF8HQNJGgPNtrAPeOjaXffY9s+6y2k7BI/CiPNtfhoJL11YokV8yUETyM+ldYxXuq gNFdRzdBgGBRtYLlldOYgzcB4lal0/EJQnIDfWm0VkQN9EJfGIMt6ycY0iVdZOSjnN7h mFsA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.137.135 with SMTP id w7mr122911779qct.14.1386064084399; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 01:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.36.137 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 01:48:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201312030924.10969.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <529C4213.2010307@sdf.org> <201312022040.11070.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312030924.10969.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:48:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run From: krad To: Mike Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:48:05 -0000 or you could use the @reboot option, that would mean it always runs at crons start, which may not be what you want, Alternatively you could cron your script every x period and get it to touch a file in /tmp, if its younger than x, the script terminates, if not you retouch and carry on. More messy but no extra software. With regards to partition layouts, I think sticking everything on / is crazy, and is geared up more for novice users who want flexibility. However if you want flexibility you should really use zfs in my opinion if at all possible. On a production ufs system I always keep the / fs purely read only apart from system updates. If I want to save mountpoints, i will drop /usr and /usr/local, but never /var /tmp, and /home On 3 December 2013 09:24, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Monday 02 Dec 2013 20:40:11 dgmm wrote: > > > This does bring to mind something I'd not previously thought of. Except > > for the rare times I leave a job running overnight, periodic never > > runs. I'll have a to make a decision on what to do about that. > > Consider sysutils/anacron > > Anacron can be used to execute commands periodically, with a frequency > specified in days. Unlike cron(8), it does not assume that the machine is > running continuously. Hence, it can be used on machines that aren't > running > 24 hours a day, to control daily, weekly, and monthly jobs that are usually > controlled by cron. > > -- > Mike Clarke > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 11:45:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FD2E7F7 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.70.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125521D07 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97E65558B for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:44:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cpc7-jarr12-2-0-cust882.16-2.cable.virginm.net (HELO amd.asgard.uk) (92.238.71.115) (smtp-auth username fbsd%pop3.dgmm.net, mechanism plain) by outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:44:49 +0000 From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:44:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312030924.10969.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201312031144.40570.freebsd01@dgmm.net> X-Gradwell-MongoId: 529dc431.859b-7525-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: fbsd@pop3.dgmm.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:45:59 -0000 On Tuesday 03 December 2013 09:48:04 krad wrote: > or you could use the @reboot option, that would mean it always runs at > crons start, which may not be what you want, Yes, that was my first thought but the overheads at boot time might be inconvenient although I'll try it to find out. > Alternatively you could cron > your script every x period and get it to touch a file in /tmp, if its > younger than x, the script terminates, if not you retouch and carry on. > More messy but no extra software. That's a good thought. > With regards to partition layouts, I think sticking everything on / is > crazy, and is geared up more for novice users who want flexibility. However > if you want flexibility you should really use zfs in my opinion if at all > possible. On a production ufs system I always keep the / fs purely read > only apart from system updates. If I want to save mountpoints, i will drop > /usr and /usr/local, but never /var /tmp, and /home zfs as boot drive was still reletively complex to set up, in my mind at least, when I built this box and yes, I also thought "everything on root" possibly wasn't the right way to go, but I thought I'd give it a try since the handbook recommended it. /home is seperate, but next build will have seperate mount points, whether zfs or ufs :-) > On 3 December 2013 09:24, Mike Clarke wrote: > > On Monday 02 Dec 2013 20:40:11 dgmm wrote: > > > This does bring to mind something I'd not previously thought of. > > > Except for the rare times I leave a job running overnight, periodic > > > never runs. I'll have a to make a decision on what to do about that. > > > > Consider sysutils/anacron > > > > Anacron can be used to execute commands periodically, with a frequency > > specified in days. Unlike cron(8), it does not assume that the machine > > is running continuously. Hence, it can be used on machines that aren't > > running > > 24 hours a day, to control daily, weekly, and monthly jobs that are > > usually controlled by cron. > > > > -- > > Mike Clarke > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 13:31:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEBDFF1D for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8208A12A8 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-161-161-3.range86-161.btcentralplus.com [86.161.161.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB3DF5rm066703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:15:05 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <529DD95A.50103@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 13:15:06 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: dhcpd static binding problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 13:31:15 -0000 Below I've got a dhcpd.conf file, with only symbolic names changed and comments removed. It generally works just fine, until today when I added the static binding for WINDOWSVISTA-PC. Previously it was on the dynamically allocated .160. Whenever its lease expires it requests and receives an ACK for .160. I've got the user to run "ipconfig /release" on the interface - they say they did it (and they're supposed to be a computer "engineer"). The lease has expired many times. I can run dhcpd in debug mode and watch it happening live. Is it me or is it Windoze? And why doesn't dhcpd refuse the renewal? If its the order in the file, why does it work on WINDOWSXP-PC? Thanks, Frank. option domain-name "test.junk.foo"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.205, 192.168.1.206; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; ddns-update-style none; log-facility local7; subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.1.145 192.168.1.192; option routers 192.168.1.210; authoritative; } host WINDOWSXP-PC { hardware ethernet 00:19:21:10:83:13; fixed-address 192.169.1.194; } host WINDOWSVISTA-PC { hardware ethernet 00:21:97:02:b2:3e; fixed-address 192.169.1.229; } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 14:25:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B209A79 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC65B16A5 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4EA1DC; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:15:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4Cg4nIJg5IDT; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:15:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.6.80] (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2FA6AF; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:15:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <529DE822.7060204@dat.pl> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:18:10 +0100 From: Maciej Milewski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Leonhardt , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: dhcpd static binding problem References: <529DD95A.50103@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <529DD95A.50103@fjl.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:25:51 -0000 On 03.12.2013 14:15, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > option domain-name "test.junk.foo"; > option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.205, 192.168.1.206; > default-lease-time 600; > max-lease-time 7200; > ddns-update-style none; > log-facility local7; > > subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > range 192.168.1.145 192.168.1.192; > option routers 192.168.1.210; > authoritative; > } > > host WINDOWSXP-PC { > hardware ethernet 00:19:21:10:83:13; > fixed-address 192.169.1.194; > } > > host WINDOWSVISTA-PC { > hardware ethernet 00:21:97:02:b2:3e; > fixed-address 192.169.1.229; > } > Why are you binding Class C, non private IP to your Windows PC? There is 192.16_9_ and it should be 192.168 And that's the reason for not setting correct IP for your host. -- Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 14:32:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D190C19 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88447175F for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-161-161-3.range86-161.btcentralplus.com [86.161.161.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB3EWAJ6088917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:32:11 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <529DEB6B.5000000@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:32:11 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: dhcpd static binding problem References: <529DD95A.50103@fjl.co.uk> <529DE822.7060204@dat.pl> In-Reply-To: <529DE822.7060204@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:32:14 -0000 On 03/12/2013 14:18, Maciej Milewski wrote: > On 03.12.2013 14:15, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> option domain-name "test.junk.foo"; >> option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.205, 192.168.1.206; >> default-lease-time 600; >> max-lease-time 7200; >> ddns-update-style none; >> log-facility local7; >> >> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { >> range 192.168.1.145 192.168.1.192; >> option routers 192.168.1.210; >> authoritative; >> } >> >> host WINDOWSXP-PC { >> hardware ethernet 00:19:21:10:83:13; >> fixed-address 192.169.1.194; >> } >> >> host WINDOWSVISTA-PC { >> hardware ethernet 00:21:97:02:b2:3e; >> fixed-address 192.169.1.229; >> } >> > Why are you binding Class C, non private IP to your Windows PC? There is > 192.16_9_ and it should be 192.168 > And that's the reason for not setting correct IP for your host. I wasn't! It was a typo and it was cut/pasted so subsequent entries, so thanks for spotting it as it's been driving me crazy. Next questions (assuming it now works): How come WINDOWXP-PC did get the address 192.168.1.194? Very weird. How come dhcpd didn't complain; even when I ran it with the -t option to check the config file, and the -d option to explain exactly what it was doing. Of course I didn't want to assign 192.16*9*.1.229, but I can't see why it didn't just do what I asked OR complain it was illegal? Just silently ignoring it wasn't very helpful. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 15:02:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3649E2F7 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77E41945 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D540A1DC; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 16:02:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Zox6ANei4ovo; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 16:02:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.6.80] (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2348F47; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 16:02:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <529DF302.5040200@dat.pl> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 16:04:34 +0100 From: Maciej Milewski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Leonhardt , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: dhcpd static binding problem References: <529DD95A.50103@fjl.co.uk> <529DE822.7060204@dat.pl> <529DEB6B.5000000@fjl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <529DEB6B.5000000@fjl.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:02:09 -0000 On 03.12.2013 15:32, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > I wasn't! It was a typo and it was cut/pasted so subsequent entries, > so thanks for spotting it as it's been driving me crazy. > > Next questions (assuming it now works): > > How come WINDOWXP-PC did get the address 192.168.1.194? Very weird. Maybe that's windows fallback address, if you had earlier range up to 199 and windows got 194? Maybe after reconfiguration dhcpd wasn't restared? I have no more ideas. > > How come dhcpd didn't complain; even when I ran it with the -t option > to check the config file, and the -d option to explain exactly what it > was doing. Of course I didn't want to assign 192.16*9*.1.229, but I > can't see why it didn't just do what I asked OR complain it was > illegal? Just silently ignoring it wasn't very helpful. > > Regards, Frank. I admit that's silence isn't helpful but have no idea if there is other option. That's one of the services set-and-forget :) -- Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 15:20:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAB3AA3B for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E1D71AAF for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (host86-161-161-3.range86-161.btcentralplus.com [86.161.161.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB3FKeZx000325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:20:41 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <529DF6C9.9080008@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:20:41 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dhcpd static binding problem References: <529DD95A.50103@fjl.co.uk> <529DE822.7060204@dat.pl> <529DEB6B.5000000@fjl.co.uk> <529DF302.5040200@dat.pl> In-Reply-To: <529DF302.5040200@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:20:43 -0000 On 03/12/2013 15:04, Maciej Milewski wrote: > On 03.12.2013 15:32, Frank Leonhardt wrote: >> I wasn't! It was a typo and it was cut/pasted so subsequent entries, >> so thanks for spotting it as it's been driving me crazy. >> >> Next questions (assuming it now works): >> >> How come WINDOWXP-PC did get the address 192.168.1.194? Very weird. > Maybe that's windows fallback address, if you had earlier range up to > 199 and windows got 194? Maybe after reconfiguration dhcpd wasn't > restared? I have no more ideas. >> How come dhcpd didn't complain; even when I ran it with the -t option >> to check the config file, and the -d option to explain exactly what it >> was doing. Of course I didn't want to assign 192.16*9*.1.229, but I >> can't see why it didn't just do what I asked OR complain it was >> illegal? Just silently ignoring it wasn't very helpful. >> >> Regards, Frank. > I admit that's silence isn't helpful but have no idea if there is other > option. That's one of the services set-and-forget :) > You were quite correct - it was ignoring the out-of-range static address for some reason. I fixed the one for the Windows XP and picks up any address I give it. I guess it just kept asking for its dynamic address when it renewed, which it must have stored on disk over several weeks of being turned off, and was just lucky to get it back whenever it asked. Of course, once I'd cut/pasted the MAC from the arp cache to make really sure I didn't have any typos in there(!) I started looking through logs for a complicated reason - so thanks again for spotting the typo. I guess httpd isn't as smart as I though it was. (Unless anyone has a reason why this "ignore mistake" behaviour is desirable). Thanks, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 15:46:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0F7F1BD for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22b.google.com (mail-oa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEAEF1D69 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 15:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i7so15087869oag.2 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:46:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E6umrgHV7dBI9sWOwB+sO+BJYoXcS2YSQlX/meZGe20=; b=GfsIFZNNkJ68oNnVMOjBKI7gFqq4OdPFaJtBzi1nVkgh5U8QSzeYjvBjpRslK2Q/Yk pq1Q+XfOzd2JjyCjv3s2awYBGGkXM0x3i0bNDmuxbRMKDglMPJ53RRHhFhMEqIiA6J6v sy8XZzaY4XYsQpmYOHOpbbhA8OQu0XoV4V2ztVfe/ke4YkMprSs57HaTpQnSUtiwVn3m a/m7B76Qv+JVHopXP7RMVNJdA/5beb47cy1uLIUsXcRfv3BqssqMv2aozEKZ/ZwYAzBk 5HVug5IALhAgRPX79oc8h577r7Et5m9U6mCC0JXBnI1gcc8P9n6zuTxcCVOV3UA1C9te GxnA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.67.105 with SMTP id m9mr2421414oet.58.1386085562101; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.139.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 07:46:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:46:01 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: local ports collection From: till plewe To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:46:03 -0000 I would like to use the ports tree to install and manage packages inside my home directory. I tried setting: PKG_DBDIR,PREFIX,PORTSDIR,LOCALBASE,PORT_DBDIR,DESTDIR to directories within my home directory but then I get error messages like $ make build ===> Creating some important subdirectories mount_nullfs: Operation not permitted when trying to build/install ports. Any suggestions on how to use ports completely avoiding root? (I rented space on a server and have permission to install binaries but do not have root access) Thanks. - Till PS I used portsnap to get the ports tree and the server is running FreeBSD 9.1) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 16:27:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB378F08 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 16:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 633351FDD for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 16:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB3GRDvX023979; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:27:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB3GRCQi023976; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:27:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:27:12 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Julien Cigar Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook In-Reply-To: <20131203092604.GA86280@mordor.lan> Message-ID: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202103122.GN66981@mordor.lan> <20131203092604.GA86280@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:27:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: "Mike." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 16:27:15 -0000 On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 08:56:13AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: >> >>> If you want to use GPT with gmirror you may want to mirror each >>> partition instead of the whole disk. >>> >>> For example on my box I have the following: https://dpaste.de/Rb3S >> >> There are a couple of potential problems with that. The big one is when >> a disk fails and is replaced. If you're not careful, the rebuild of all >> those mirrored partitions will start at the same time. Head contention >> will bring that to a near-standstill. It also puts a heavy load on the >> drive that still works. Hopefully it is not the same model and age as >> the one that failed, or its "warranty timer" may also be close to >> expiring. > > That's true, I turned off autosynchronization of stale components to > avoid this kind of bad scenario .. > >> >> A less-serious problem is that only the partitions are mirrored. That >> leaves out metadata like the partition tables and bootcode, but those >> typically do not change very often and might not be a problem. The >> admin has to remember to manually install such things on a new >> replacement disk, though. > > It's just a matter of gpart backup / gpart restore, right ? That will get the partition tables but not the bootcode or PMBR. A failed disk could then leave a mirror which has all the data but is unbootable. At some point, we'll have to address the conflict between gmirror and GPT. ZFS mirrors can replace gmirror in some situations, but not all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 17:18:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E44AAED for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440FB12BD for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB6433C1D; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id AC83239830; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:08:56 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: till plewe Subject: Re: local ports collection References: Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 12:08:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: (till plewe's message of "Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:46:01 +0900") Message-ID: <44r49tg8uv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:18:35 -0000 till plewe writes: > I would like to use the ports tree to install and manage packages inside my > home directory. I tried setting: > > PKG_DBDIR,PREFIX,PORTSDIR,LOCALBASE,PORT_DBDIR,DESTDIR Don't use DESTDIR; it doesn't do what you think it does. [What did you think it did anyway, and why?] > to directories within my home directory but then I get error messages like > > $ make build > ===> Creating some important subdirectories > mount_nullfs: Operation not permitted > > when trying to build/install ports. > > Any suggestions on how to use ports completely avoiding root? > (I rented space on a server and have permission to install binaries > but do not have root access) You'll probably have to change SU_CMD as well. Something like "su $USER -c" should do it. And you may need to bootstrap the pkg(8) command somehow. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 17:29:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38E9AD74 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B80D1351 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749B633C24; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 35AD339830; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:29:44 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Camir=E9?= Subject: Re: Qemu / freeBsd on Android. References: Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 12:29:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: ("Michel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Camir=E9=22's?= message of "Mon, 2 Dec 2013 20:38:47 -0500") Message-ID: <44mwkhg7w8.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:29:51 -0000 Michel Camir=E9 writes: > I'm completely new to freeBsd wich I intend to use via Qemu on my Samsung > Galaxy Note 8 , Gt N5110 . Some say freeBsd is dead and that it would be > better to consider Gnu/Linux as a successor. I don't know. I have some > experience with Dos so, a command line doesn't look lethal to me. > I would like to install a Gui in freeBsd 1st, and after install music > applications from open sources like RoseGarden. Or maybe installing a > different Os instead of freeBsd in Qemu. > What do you think/ recommend. I think the emulated machine you'll be presented with will be *very* slow and limited for running complicated software, or even a bit-mapped GUI. Maybe try FreeDOS first, and realize that you'll be wanting to tune QEMU quite a bit for the emulation capabilities. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 17:37:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B8A511A for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway02.edpnet.net (relaygateway02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3749A141A for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:37:11 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AooHANoVnlJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABagwc4g020VAEBSU6BGhd0giUBAQEDAQEBASArCBgLEAsOCgICBRMOAgIPBRMBCQgkCAcEARwEh1oKCbEfiUyGUBeBKYxqGgEBTweCazWBEwOVRYJOAYEwkGODKjsxgQQ X-IPAS-Result: AooHANoVnlJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABagwc4g020VAEBSU6BGhd0giUBAQEDAQEBASArCBgLEAsOCgICBRMOAgIPBRMBCQgkCAcEARwEh1oKCbEfiUyGUBeBKYxqGgEBTweCazWBEwOVRYJOAYEwkGODKjsxgQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.93,819,1378850400"; d="scan'208";a="209735710" Received: from 77.109.118.201.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.118.201]) by relaygateway02.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 03 Dec 2013 18:21:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 18:37:00 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Warren Block Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Message-ID: <20131203173700.GD86280@mordor.lan> References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202103122.GN66981@mordor.lan> <20131203092604.GA86280@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: "Mike." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:37:12 -0000 On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:27:12AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 08:56:13AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: > >> > >>> If you want to use GPT with gmirror you may want to mirror each > >>> partition instead of the whole disk. > >>> > >>> For example on my box I have the following: https://dpaste.de/Rb3S > >> > >> There are a couple of potential problems with that. The big one is when > >> a disk fails and is replaced. If you're not careful, the rebuild of all > >> those mirrored partitions will start at the same time. Head contention > >> will bring that to a near-standstill. It also puts a heavy load on the > >> drive that still works. Hopefully it is not the same model and age as > >> the one that failed, or its "warranty timer" may also be close to > >> expiring. > > > > That's true, I turned off autosynchronization of stale components to > > avoid this kind of bad scenario .. > > > >> > >> A less-serious problem is that only the partitions are mirrored. That > >> leaves out metadata like the partition tables and bootcode, but those > >> typically do not change very often and might not be a problem. The > >> admin has to remember to manually install such things on a new > >> replacement disk, though. > > > > It's just a matter of gpart backup / gpart restore, right ? > > That will get the partition tables but not the bootcode or PMBR. A > failed disk could then leave a mirror which has all the data but is > unbootable. ok, so I've to be sure that: $> gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p gptboot -i 1 adaX is executed for each disk involved in the mirror, right ..? > > At some point, we'll have to address the conflict between gmirror and > GPT. ZFS mirrors can replace gmirror in some situations, but not all. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 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J. Bernstein says "Having every daemon put itself into the background is bad software design." in http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/faq/create.html . That is, is it possible to write a daemon to run in foreground and automatically started at system boot up (via /etc/rc.conf)? Can someone provide a sample in C? Does he means after fork(2), the parent continue to run? Can such a program started via the /etc/rc.conf without a terminal attached? Any idea? Btw, I got in to this problem by trying to use DJB's daemontools to supervise my server running on FreeBSD. But it creates zombie processes and spawn quite fast. In my daemons, after fork(2), parent returns. Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 17:46:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56B11729 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22e.google.com (mail-oa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 209CE1511 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id o6so15189948oag.5 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:46:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WFIkhmARo2Mh/vw7pxXapoNxJhYSBR+XV/zBMbPrQ3U=; b=s8CXV2fl7nIbXKM4OKCIcSOZFr4MKfWjNQrBEJKxnftr/vKgouccFqY441t/HEhlfo 5s7XihQtsFgL/VbXyA5uSZe/pLXPikwzr5SZ3FcBDwyUrLfFqvgb+n08nhuJi2V3qfH/ 9IMV7VaPqYwLeAIYzpLLx+HvIRP9q/ubBkJvXX60LINCTqOecQ/hGCK0V/T09DbmezCK 4jDVrgSfSVG8y9CFK4XKI70+Bye22Ge9V5NHVWvQFcJmV++vPh3tp4YRT7kG31sANDqg i7BjvLjUzAHtWKhS3RNFNwesYDc/pcxQNjYbcEZ25GGAuEZ1wV/kkxhr19PFF75nxXFt 6RFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.134.14 with SMTP id pg14mr1920419oeb.66.1386092800196; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.139.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:46:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <44r49tg8uv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <44r49tg8uv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 02:46:40 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: local ports collection From: till plewe To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:46:41 -0000 Thanks for the answer. DESTDIR was supposed to be DISTDIR (typo). Setting SU_CMD was the hint I needed. Now it seems adjusting ldconfig is the only thing left to do. pkg installed without problems. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > till plewe writes: > >> I would like to use the ports tree to install and manage packages inside my >> home directory. I tried setting: >> >> PKG_DBDIR,PREFIX,PORTSDIR,LOCALBASE,PORT_DBDIR,DESTDIR > > Don't use DESTDIR; it doesn't do what you think it does. > [What did you think it did anyway, and why?] > >> to directories within my home directory but then I get error messages like >> >> $ make build >> ===> Creating some important subdirectories >> mount_nullfs: Operation not permitted >> >> when trying to build/install ports. >> >> Any suggestions on how to use ports completely avoiding root? >> (I rented space on a server and have permission to install binaries >> but do not have root access) > > You'll probably have to change SU_CMD as well. > Something like "su $USER -c" should do it. > And you may need to bootstrap the pkg(8) command somehow. > > Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 17:53:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E422932 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.euro-comm.net (mail.euro-comm.net [194.190.78.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D04A1595 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (unknown [195.91.216.248]) by mail.euro-comm.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 936A86BD5E3 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 21:53:37 +0400 (MSK) From: Victor Gamov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: netgraph questions Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 21:53:37 +0400 Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:53:44 -0000 Hi All Can any body help me with following question: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2013-November/037128.html Where I'm wrong at my idea and/or implementation? Thanks in advance! -- CU, Victor Gamov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 20:35:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17546181 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 20:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A41CE108E for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 20:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB3KZ1rE025933; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:35:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB3KZ0QG025930; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:35:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 13:35:00 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Julien Cigar Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook In-Reply-To: <20131203173700.GD86280@mordor.lan> Message-ID: References: <201311301303210813.05DE187E@smtp.24cl.home> <201312011121580096.005D00FB@smtp.24cl.home> <20131202103122.GN66981@mordor.lan> <20131203092604.GA86280@mordor.lan> <20131203173700.GD86280@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 03 Dec 2013 13:35:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: "Mike." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 20:35:03 -0000 On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:27:12AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 08:56:13AM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Julien Cigar wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you want to use GPT with gmirror you may want to mirror each >>>>> partition instead of the whole disk. >>>>> >>>>> For example on my box I have the following: https://dpaste.de/Rb3S >>>> >>>> There are a couple of potential problems with that. The big one is when >>>> a disk fails and is replaced. If you're not careful, the rebuild of all >>>> those mirrored partitions will start at the same time. Head contention >>>> will bring that to a near-standstill. It also puts a heavy load on the >>>> drive that still works. Hopefully it is not the same model and age as >>>> the one that failed, or its "warranty timer" may also be close to >>>> expiring. >>> >>> That's true, I turned off autosynchronization of stale components to >>> avoid this kind of bad scenario .. >>> >>>> >>>> A less-serious problem is that only the partitions are mirrored. That >>>> leaves out metadata like the partition tables and bootcode, but those >>>> typically do not change very often and might not be a problem. The >>>> admin has to remember to manually install such things on a new >>>> replacement disk, though. >>> >>> It's just a matter of gpart backup / gpart restore, right ? >> >> That will get the partition tables but not the bootcode or PMBR. A >> failed disk could then leave a mirror which has all the data but is >> unbootable. > > ok, so I've to be sure that: > > $> gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p gptboot -i 1 adaX > > is executed for each disk involved in the mirror, right ..? That's correct. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 22:51:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD8D4956; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 22:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from olgeni.olgeni.com (host-156-246-171-31.cloudsigma.com [31.171.246.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738BB1918; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 22:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (unknown [82.84.68.101]) by olgeni.olgeni.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B573174483; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 23:51:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 23:51:41 +0100 (CET) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: olgeni@olgeni.olgeni To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ipsec packets apparently not getting to destination Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-KeyID: 0x90B7A98E6450AE47 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 7133 AB4D DFC8 0A0D F891 B0D2 90B7 A98E 6450 AE47 X-OpenPGP-URL: http://olgeni.olgeni.com/~olgeni/pgp/olgeni@olgeni.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:51:44 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to setup a VPN server using L2TP/IPSEC, racoon (from ipsec-tools) and mpd5, with certificates (to avoid patching racoon for handling wildcard PSKs). PF disabled for testing, no other firewall is active, no NAT on the server, NAT on the client using server port 4500. Server is running 9.2-RELEASE r256712, with this config appended to GENERIC: device crypto # core crypto support device cryptodev # /dev/crypto for access to h/w device enc # IPsec interface. options IPSEC # IP security (requires device crypto) options IPSEC_NAT_T # NAT-T support, UDP encap of ESP options IPSEC_FILTERTUNNEL # filter ipsec packets from a tunnel (plus other unrelated things, ALTQ, SW_WATCHDOG, DDB, TEKEN_UTF8). After tens of tests I got to this point... If I disable ipsec on the Windows 8 client, the L2TP tunnel comes up perfectly. A sample PPTP tunnel (unrelated) also works fine. I take it as proof that mpd5 is configured in a more or less sensible manner. My /etc/ipsec.conf looks like this: flush; spdflush; spdadd 0.0.0.0/0[0] 0.0.0.0/0[1701] udp -P in ipsec esp/transport//require; spdadd 0.0.0.0/0[1701] 0.0.0.0/0[0] udp -P out ipsec esp/transport//require; Which translates to this at runtime: 0.0.0.0/0[1701] 0.0.0.0/0[any] udp in ipsec esp/transport//require spid=58 seq=1 pid=43822 refcnt=1 0.0.0.0/0[any] 0.0.0.0/0[1701] udp out ipsec esp/transport//require spid=57 seq=0 pid=43822 refcnt=1 When connecting with L2TP/IPSEC from the Windows client, racoon shows this output: (C.C.C.C -> NAT address before Windows client, S.S.S.S -> public address of L2TP server) 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: respond new phase 1 negotiation: S.S.S.S[500]<=>C.C.C.C[49216] 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: begin Identity Protection mode. 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: received broken Microsoft ID: MS NT5 ISAKMPOAKLEY 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: received Vendor ID: RFC 3947 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: received Vendor ID: draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-t-ike-02 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: received Vendor ID: FRAGMENTATION 2013-12-03 23:10:03: [C.C.C.C] INFO: Selected NAT-T version: RFC 3947 2013-12-03 23:10:03: ERROR: invalid DH group 20. 2013-12-03 23:10:03: ERROR: invalid DH group 19. 2013-12-03 23:10:03: [S.S.S.S] INFO: Hashing S.S.S.S[500] with algo #2 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: NAT-D payload #0 verified 2013-12-03 23:10:03: [C.C.C.C] INFO: Hashing C.C.C.C[49216] with algo #2 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: NAT-D payload #1 doesn't match 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: NAT detected: PEER 2013-12-03 23:10:03: [C.C.C.C] INFO: Hashing C.C.C.C[49216] with algo #2 2013-12-03 23:10:03: [S.S.S.S] INFO: Hashing S.S.S.S[500] with algo #2 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: Adding remote and local NAT-D payloads. 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: NAT-T: ports changed to: C.C.C.C[4500]<->S.S.S.S[4500] 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: KA found: S.S.S.S[4500]->C.C.C.C[4500] (in_use=2) 2013-12-03 23:10:03: WARNING: unable to get certificate CRL(3) at depth:0 SubjectName:/C=IT/ST=Lombardia/L=Milano/O=MovieReading/CN=LiveSub Client 2013-12-03 23:10:03: WARNING: unable to get certificate CRL(3) at depth:1 SubjectName:/C=IT/ST=Lombardia/O=MovieReading/CN=ROOT CA 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: ISAKMP-SA established S.S.S.S[4500]-C.C.C.C[4500] spi:077c160ee905cf2e:062d1918ab2b788f 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: respond new phase 2 negotiation: S.S.S.S[4500]<=>C.C.C.C[4500] 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: Adjusting my encmode UDP-Transport->Transport 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: Adjusting peer's encmode UDP-Transport(4)->Transport(2) 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: IPsec-SA established: ESP/Transport S.S.S.S[500]->C.C.C.C[500] spi=225553014(0xd71aa76) 2013-12-03 23:10:03: INFO: IPsec-SA established: ESP/Transport S.S.S.S[500]->C.C.C.C[500] spi=2749046390(0xa3db1e76) CRL aside, which is not configured right now, certificate handling looks ok. Client side NAT also looks good. Also, tcpdump on enc0 shows the relevant packets coming through IPSEC: tcpdump: WARNING: enc0: no IPv4 address assigned tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on enc0, link-type ENC (OpenBSD encapsulated IP), capture size 65535 bytes 23:10:03.521573 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x0d71aa76: IP client.dialup.tiscali.it.l2f > olgeni.olgeni.com.l2f: l2tp:[TLS](0/0)Ns=0,Nr=0 *MSGTYPE(SCCRQ) *PROTO_VER(1.0) *FRAMING_CAP(S) *BEARER_CAP() FIRM_VER(1539) *HOST_NAME(moviereading) VENDOR_NAME(Microsoft) *ASSND_TUN_ID(16) *RECV_WIN_SIZE(8) 23:10:04.513077 (authentic,confidential): SPI 0x0d71aa76: IP client.dialup.tiscali.it.l2f > olgeni.olgeni.com.l2f: l2tp:[TLS](0/0)Ns=0,Nr=0 *MSGTYPE(SCCRQ) *PROTO_VER(1.0) *FRAMING_CAP(S) *BEARER_CAP() FIRM_VER(1539) *HOST_NAME(moviereading) VENDOR_NAME(Microsoft) *ASSND_TUN_ID(16) *RECV_WIN_SIZE(8) Now, the really weird part is that mpd5 does not even see the packets addressed to the l2f (1701) port. I tried to bind mpd5 both to S.S.S.S and to 0.0.0.0, but nothing changed. Also, if I run "socat UDP-LISTEN:1701 STDOUT" in place of mpd5, *nothing* comes through, even if the dump on enc0 shows that something is coming in. Running "setkey -D" shows this: S.S.S.S C.C.C.C esp mode=transport spi=3417968112(0xcbba0df0) reqid=0(0x00000000) E: rijndael-cbc 65260e8e fd0d9dbf 8aa363d8 7cc81f41 2eb89aff d6984fb9 b7bdfc56 50774e0a A: hmac-sha1 fd5e6716 fe7e2c57 fc1f42b9 ec5307ab dae3ea6f seq=0x00000000 replay=4 flags=0x00000000 state=mature created: Dec 3 23:24:16 2013 current: Dec 3 23:24:29 2013 diff: 13(s) hard: 3600(s) soft: 2880(s) last: hard: 0(s) soft: 0(s) current: 0(bytes) hard: 0(bytes) soft: 0(bytes) allocated: 0 hard: 0 soft: 0 sadb_seq=1 pid=43884 refcnt=1 C.C.C.C S.S.S.S esp mode=transport spi=253016163(0x0f14b863) reqid=0(0x00000000) E: rijndael-cbc 1463f10b 87e52b9b 9d32ee04 350198ae 6779d06d 3f57389b 71bffd18 72211b36 A: hmac-sha1 1037b02e 7ec2cf51 50351bb6 cf8ab693 25d87e0a seq=0x00000004 replay=4 flags=0x00000000 state=mature created: Dec 3 23:24:16 2013 current: Dec 3 23:24:29 2013 diff: 13(s) hard: 3600(s) soft: 2880(s) last: Dec 3 23:24:23 2013 hard: 0(s) soft: 0(s) current: 532(bytes) hard: 0(bytes) soft: 0(bytes) allocated: 4 hard: 0 soft: 0 sadb_seq=0 pid=43884 refcnt=1 I cannot imagine any obvious reason for packets getting "lost" after enc0, so any hint would be much appreciated :) -- jimmy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 3 23:55:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED95C864 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 23:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:2:7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E881E0C for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 23:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp121-45-108-103.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.108.103]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Dec 2013 10:25:50 +1030 Message-ID: <529E6F80.7050705@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:25:44 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dgmm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312030924.10969.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <201312031144.40570.freebsd01@dgmm.net> In-Reply-To: <201312031144.40570.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:55:54 -0000 On 03/12/2013 22:14, dgmm wrote: > On Tuesday 03 December 2013 09:48:04 krad wrote: >> or you could use the @reboot option, that would mean it always runs at >> crons start, which may not be what you want, > > Yes, that was my first thought but the overheads at boot time might be > inconvenient although I'll try it to find out. > Or write a rc script to run it at shutdown? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 01:10:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA0E8727 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 01:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.physics.umn.edu (smtp.spa.umn.edu [128.101.220.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFA8F1208 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 01:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peevish.spa.umn.edu ([128.101.220.230]) by mail.physics.umn.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Vo0jW-000Lqk-Li; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 18:54:30 -0600 Received: by peevish.spa.umn.edu (Postfix, from userid 5000) id 995EBA4B; Tue, 3 Dec 2013 18:54:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 18:54:30 -0600 From: Graham Allan To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 On ESXi 5.5? Message-ID: <20131204005430.GB8508@physics.umn.edu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) Cc: Drew Tomlinson , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 01:10:30 -0000 On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 04:31:00PM -0800, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > > I used to use ZFS and like the redundancy it provides. However I've googled > > and there seems to be a lot of posts about ZFS not working well in a virtual > > machine. > > > > Does anyone have any insight on this? Good idea? Bad idea that will bite > > me later? It is most important to me to have a machine that is reliable and > > just runs like my old one did than to do anything fancy. I like a raid1z > > pool because I could lose a disk and not lose data. However I do not want > > to cause problems by using it in a vm since they are so easy to restore from > > backups. > > The only way to use ZFS pools in any reasonable fashion with ESXi is > to present iSCSI targets to the ESXi server from the host that has the > pools. Just my $0.02 ($0.11 adjusted for inflation). I ran FreeBSD with ZFS for a while on a whitebox ESXi (5.1) server at home using raw device mappings to local SATA drives. ESX doesn't support RDM directly for non-SAN type storage but it can be done. Here's the page I used to get it working: http://blog.davidwarburton.net/2010/10/25/rdm-mapping-of-local-sata-storage-for-esxi/ Obviously this does need some degree of caution - it worked just fine for me at home but I don't think I'd stake my job on this setup :-). Also although ZFS seemed perfectly happy with the pass-through RDM devices, you aren't getting 100% raw access to the drives (eg SMART monitoring didn't work). Graham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 07:59:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57B20167 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 07:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lena.kiev.ua (lena.kiev.ua [82.146.52.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59C191A8E for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 07:59:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lena.kiev.ua; s=3; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=p8jXNKxxRppaJrx/nCLA+kjJB1pDKp8lLFLetm15fYc=; b=V+OVFGQ0MnkK9d7rL46QcTmlW4izYHpmMQg+a+9baJoew2fXRaVopNxf1MptjldWxWaS4k6n5+Z2BecRdZiQJdqogF9WUsgagd9/dlrWINCv8RImJLWEvTBq9xw8yxoaLHwiAeHNit2q9pCjC08aa3SLfpmgXyazccg354f033Y=; Received: from ip-384c.rusanovka-net.kiev.ua ([94.244.56.76] helo=bedside.lena.kiev.ua) by lena.kiev.ua with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Vo7Mg-000HXo-Og for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:59:23 +0200 Received: from bedside.lena.kiev.ua (localhost.lena.kiev.ua [127.0.0.1]) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB47xCc3001049 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:59:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: (from lena@localhost) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id rB47xBkL001048 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:59:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:59:11 +0200 From: Lena@lena.kiev.ua To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: No daily digests from lists.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20131204075911.GC785@lena.kiev> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 07:59:27 -0000 Hi, During last few weeks, only overflow digests are sent by lists @freebsd.org. For example, a digest for freebsd-gecko@freebsd.org contained messages Nov 16 - Nov 20. Perhaps mailman's daily digest process died? I wrote to mailman@freebsd.org and postmaster@freebsd.org - no response. > Subject: freebsd-gecko Digest, Vol 192, Issue 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:49:13 +0000 > Today's Topics: > > 1. [SVN-Commit] r1386 - in trunk/www: linux-firefox > linux-seamonkey (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 2. [SVN-Commit] r1387 - trunk (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 3. [SVN-Commit] r1388 - trunk/www/linux-seamonkey > (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 4. [SVN-Commit] r1389 - in trunk: mail/linux-thunderbird > www/linux-firefox www/linux-seamonkey > (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 5. [SVN-Commit] r1390 - trunk/www/linux-seamonkey > (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 6. [SVN-Commit] r1391 - in trunk: devel/nspr > security/ca_root_nss security/nss www/firefox www/firefox-esr > www/firefox-esr-i18n www/firefox-i18n www/firefox-nightly > www/firefox-nightly/files www/libxul www/linux-firefox > www/linux-seamonkey www/seamonkey (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 7. [SVN-Commit] r1392 - trunk/Mk (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 8. [SVN-Commit] r1393 - trunk (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 9. [SVN-Commit] r1394 - in trunk: security/nss www/firefox > www/firefox-esr www/firefox-nightly www/libxul www/seamonkey > (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 10. Current problem reports assigned to gecko@FreeBSD.org > (FreeBSD bugmaster) > 11. [SVN-Commit] r1395 - in trunk: mail/linux-thunderbird > www/linux-firefox www/linux-seamonkey > (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 12. [SVN-Commit] r1396 - in trunk/www: linux-firefox/files > linux-seamonkey (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > 13. [SVN-Commit] r1397 - in trunk: mail/linux-thunderbird/files > mail/thunderbird/files www/firefox-esr/files > www/firefox-nightly/files www/firefox/files > www/linux-seamonkey/files www/seamonkey/files > (svn-freebsd-gecko@chruetertee.ch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:06:44 GMT > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:49:00 GMT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 08:20:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08D22840 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x233.google.com (mail-oa0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6DA71D1F for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id i7so16395829oag.10 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:20:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KNYr3kKM/wcooqdbd5uhPF0LiS8hzW63msI1H5pjmT0=; b=cztDcv3BsohD+NIJKsniVPla79nYlTp0Fb6xJ44B2Zd1WJfQumr/PPD/NHcibp2TJi /X/kHtQp1o4F8mI0ziRA1WFr/ANIYl7wBYqTL1Hk7bskXz5GOI0F6IIAn0KP9FC4eNvZ aeclX/Do9jszfwGrWUU9fXtBK6jBaePVTifESyHy9un8hQetjGGsVlv+wn7Mwg/KgCHM gXhcWVH3f4HTmPvxTa0DEhmX4QMP2DAZIFPs9X7HMFlW8KWcpcnW8q7Qgp797cz2AJ29 721OyfYCBSZyRpqC8XpYCgCxUn8w+E74XdGgkekhqPAEsSNkvvy5wHVFfib1gtZ96yj0 zISw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.65.101 with SMTP id w5mr20480240oes.0.1386145247555; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.139.9 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:20:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <44r49tg8uv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:20:47 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: local ports collection From: till plewe To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 08:20:49 -0000 Setting LDFCONFIG as well got a bit further but now I am stuck at ranlib complaining that it cannot open a ".a" file (when trying to install python2.7.6). The problem seems to be that files are installed using permissions 0444 rather than 0644 when used by a non-root user. Is there a simple method to work around this or rather to set this properly? On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:46 AM, till plewe wrote: > Thanks for the answer. DESTDIR was supposed to be DISTDIR (typo). > Setting SU_CMD was the hint I needed. Now it seems adjusting ldconfig > is the only thing left to do. pkg installed without problems. > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Lowell Gilbert > wrote: >> till plewe writes: >> >>> I would like to use the ports tree to install and manage packages inside my >>> home directory. I tried setting: >>> >>> PKG_DBDIR,PREFIX,PORTSDIR,LOCALBASE,PORT_DBDIR,DESTDIR >> >> Don't use DESTDIR; it doesn't do what you think it does. >> [What did you think it did anyway, and why?] >> >>> to directories within my home directory but then I get error messages like >>> >>> $ make build >>> ===> Creating some important subdirectories >>> mount_nullfs: Operation not permitted >>> >>> when trying to build/install ports. >>> >>> Any suggestions on how to use ports completely avoiding root? >>> (I rented space on a server and have permission to install binaries >>> but do not have root access) >> >> You'll probably have to change SU_CMD as well. >> Something like "su $USER -c" should do it. >> And you may need to bootstrap the pkg(8) command somehow. >> >> Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 08:43:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F040E04 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B4021EA7 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:43:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=WL+LdNIos2DXLytyRN2//z4moey4wmZ3gh8u3Q9qPNU=; b=EJFSxRUs3YBWoeVUePfXfB6/lcsBrcpPiu+yEmWbc+j6Dw1i1ktXH8JKteWQO4pCb15dKBZz+wSnwsHEu2npJWV7IY/2wBmK9gmMB4pc6vttRH1e/oLUpAcVoBmNnglyfzUSdECKkhkdAvIrbr7rgiqs3yi+8MZhIs/rGQKMRmw=; Received: from [182.5.194.195] (port=60246 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Vo7Ml-001SEQ-Jw for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:59:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:59:07 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Minimum size of a UFS partition Message-ID: <20131204155907.38ab9f72@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 08:43:10 -0000 Hi, does anybody know how small a partition for UFS can get? I would need a very small partition of even below 1.44 MB. Thanks! Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 10:16:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 028D7655 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 10:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B84D913E1 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 10:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 397AC3DEAC; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:15:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB4AFfp4002204; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:15:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:15:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Minimum size of a UFS partition Message-Id: <20131204111541.97550134.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131204155907.38ab9f72@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20131204155907.38ab9f72@X220.ovitrap.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:16:06 -0000 On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:59:07 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody know how small a partition for UFS can get? > > I would need a very small partition of even below 1.44 MB. That should be possible by applying specific options to newfs for fine-tuning. The size of the "administrative structures" can be controlled by tuning -S, -b and -f. Also -o, -r and -m will have an effect here. Note that -s is given in sectors. Creating a UFS volume directly on a device should leave all the control to you, using newfs. If you need to create a partition for it (GPT via gpart, MBR via gpart, MBR via fdisk and bsdlabel) things will probably get more complicated because more "overhead" will be involved. In a "normal" case, newfs will automatically detect the size of what the file system is going to be created on (e. g. da0p1, da0s1, or da0) and will span across the usable space automatically, so maybe a combination of "create a small partition somehow" and "make UFS use the partition optimally" would be a possible way to go. See "man newfs" and "man tunefs" for details, as well as the documentation of possibly involved partitioning tools. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 10:54:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACBAD381 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 10:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81399169E for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 10:54:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=ozzFgEXiWSEKjARQA79ntfiuLpGCDzypbGU1MJ7+U40=; b=C3uMiQk1swnoPKPngEkKINAzvIErWklbbLdqKGw90ou6A28+CzFvCZ+zeA1bjRJbTebQlo6RPgdYUgYDSqfghT+ZxKJaYKATMKB+f96hJocceQ1Xk8lGwrI8OrV0O5ddAWbfSuVbKTX+oIsJneN5oVWPbzC2sIw3tb7nr2EBlc8=; Received: from [182.5.194.195] (port=38012 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1VoA5y-002MGz-MF; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 03:54:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:53:43 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Minimum size of a UFS partition Message-ID: <20131204185343.232cb68e@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20131204111541.97550134.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20131204155907.38ab9f72@X220.ovitrap.com> <20131204111541.97550134.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:54:23 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:15:41 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:59:07 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > does anybody know how small a partition for UFS can get? > > > > I would need a very small partition of even below 1.44 MB. > > That should be possible by applying specific options to newfs with the other tip, I came to a size of 1MB for the given application. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 13:14:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE3F2F5D for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B68A1FDF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:14:55 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; b=rKBe+MNn2jJmfc9DASwRH/UVigufgxZTK+g17MEXfcSPW4iO90EhlyHgtawmf2OnsdAQpdPPJnFD 5x3hKwzyt9bZyphRNzFFTsg5d6br32OaN+jufhzl7GbyTqmlaYFK Received: from [192.168.11.5] (213.111.120.236 [213.111.120.236]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1386162887376374.72863747780275; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 05:14:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: paypal id From: clutton To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 15:14:43 +0200 Message-ID: <1386162883.2876.2.camel@eva02.mbsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMail: Ss SS_10 UW UB ZMHF-701_1 ZCHF-700_1 UW UB SGR3_1_26113_17 X-ZohoMail-Owner: <1386162883.2876.2.camel@eva02.mbsd>+zmo_0_ X-ZohoMail-Sender: 213.111.120.236 X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:14:55 -0000 Could somebody provide me the paypal id of the FreeBSD foundation? I couldn't find it by myself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 13:31:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21864393 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8AFB10E1 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C19C827AA7; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:31:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB4DVKl8003662; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:31:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:31:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: clutton Subject: Re: paypal id Message-Id: <20131204143120.d0fe6bbd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1386162883.2876.2.camel@eva02.mbsd> References: <1386162883.2876.2.camel@eva02.mbsd> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:31:44 -0000 On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 15:14:43 +0200, clutton wrote: > Could somebody provide me the paypal id of the FreeBSD foundation? > I couldn't find it by myself. I found this (by a quick web search) on /.: The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that it is now accepting credit card donations via PayPal. Donations can be made via the Foundation's home page or direct from PayPal. The Foundation's account with PayPal is donations@freebsdfoundation.org. Source: http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/01/12/26/1942205/freebsd-foundation-accepting-donations-via-pay-pal Please verify the correctness of the information yourself, as I'm not an official spokesperson or representative, and I can't make sure this information is up to date and valid. :-) Also see: https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 13:53:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F78A904 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EDC1223 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:53:24 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; b=IAkeJsx0bOiYVek5wtxMsIiSIglAQ8Co6t+LOAFV0wM6tQati7XCIoUEeJp2LcqgMGf9+Fm7/AQY u/W5rY+lB/AAu8C8dvh0SAv1WSCTIlaklr3/W4IWqGuLgwVtBJUF Received: from [192.168.11.5] (213.111.120.236 [213.111.120.236]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1386165204136154.69378231146447; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 05:53:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: paypal id From: clutton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20131204143120.d0fe6bbd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1386162883.2876.2.camel@eva02.mbsd> <20131204143120.d0fe6bbd.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 15:46:07 +0200 Message-ID: <1386164767.2876.9.camel@eva02.mbsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMail: Ss SS_10 UW UB ZMHF-701_2 ZCF-710TPL ZCHF-700_1 UW UB SGR3_1_26113_90 X-ZohoMail-Owner: <1386164767.2876.9.camel@eva02.mbsd>+zmo_0_ X-ZohoMail-Sender: 213.111.120.236 X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 2 X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:53:25 -0000 On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 14:31 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 15:14:43 +0200, clutton wrote: > > Could somebody provide me the paypal id of the FreeBSD foundation? > > I couldn't find it by myself. >=20 > I found this (by a quick web search) on /.: >=20 > The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that > it is now accepting credit card donations via PayPal. > Donations can be made via the Foundation's home page > or direct from PayPal. The Foundation's account with > PayPal is donations@freebsdfoundation.org. >=20 > Source: >=20 > http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/01/12/26/1942205/freebsd-foundation-accepti= ng-donations-via-pay-pal >=20 > Please verify the correctness of the information yourself, as I'm > not an official spokesperson or representative, and I can't make > sure this information is up to date and valid. :-) >=20 > Also see: >=20 > https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ >=20 >=20 That's not for me. I'd like to put this ID into my Firefox addon page. The =C2=ABAMO=C2=BB, Addons Mozilla Org needs that id in such cases. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 17:08:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F2DE4DD for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A87AB1FF5 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z2so6944657wiv.0 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:08:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=iRndl1mQK+yaw95srzbjqAv3LffW6hesE3kg4jwT2VA=; b=CbvEt/Kt1QqNyUDg65v2dsRlB7O11hgHisrZ1/jDXDrfE30OGyzbp0kjv2QiT+Oe06 E1rVquDhO0PYffUFmW9ObV/4DEyWqIYnHOfUlE5BTASywWgnOM591iqVJQOhuWhaY1eI gL+8kNNlngpqEWcjTMaIEOO5Qy/D6kAqwQsYIDxnGkVWIPrHIBzjE7oYr/fjK7/F9Qoz 2ikTgkypykPAcr5rm+EcSBMCu+HrjtwEin/G9wJVHEOTfGU2XP8nBDTPTP9Bdm+1J0U0 s7f8SpZdlYlAFKOAAZlKgbhsD6Tm7ITcCuQR3Rh/ovpsnRzP6EZKOt79TTbgT5wyC7bY PndA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlDzUGKR55TiwoIRd0zhzL8pqD2UFfEg1FSabbDma81EzjVPaUZ7TYgBygrza+NIud6gLG4 X-Received: by 10.180.206.41 with SMTP id ll9mr8061462wic.7.1386176880142; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot.paris.hi-media-techno.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f11sm8683600wic.4.2013.12.04.09.07.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:07:59 -0800 (PST) From: Fleuriot Damien Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: pkg repo not creating repo.txz on 8.4-STABLE Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:07:58 +0100 To: "FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:08:08 -0000 Hello list, I've got this tiny problem where issuing `pkg repo /tmp/repo/All` won't = yield a repo.txz file, anywhere at all. /tmp/repo/All contains a single, very small python package (this is a = real, valid port), on purpose to minimize the size of ktrace dumps. # pkg version root@bsd8:/ # pkg -v 1.2.1 # Contents of /tmp/repo/All/ root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz # Command used to create the repo root@bsd8:/ # pkg repo /tmp/repo/All/ Generating repository catalog in /tmp/repo/All/: done! # Resulting files , note that digests and packagesite were generated = successfully root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ total 12 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 256 Dec 4 16:46 digests.txz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 712 Dec 4 16:46 packagesite.txz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz I've tried gleaning info from both truss and ktrace, with the following = results from kdump: # Actual ktrace ktrace pkg repo -q /tmp/repo/All/ # grep repo.txz during kdump root@bsd8:/ # kdump | grep -C 8 repo.txz 2254 initial thread CALL munmap(0x802400000,0xe00000) 2254 initial thread RET munmap 0 2254 initial thread CALL close(0x3) 2254 initial thread RET close 0 2254 initial thread CALL unlink(0x7fffffffe580) 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//digests" 2254 initial thread RET unlink 0 2254 initial thread CALL stat(0x7fffffffe170,0x7fffffffe0c0) 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//repo.txz" 2254 initial thread RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 2254 initial thread CALL = sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe990,0x802004298) 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 2254 initial thread CALL = sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe950,0x802004298) 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) Meh, what gives, no such file ? Out of curiosity and to prove I'm not trying to get anyone else to do my = homework, I've taken the liberty of grabbing an earlier version of `pkg` = at: = ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bapt/pkg-1.0-rc6.t= ar.xz Building and using pkg-static from these sources does yield the correct = repo file : root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ./pkg-static repo /tmp/repo/ Generating repo.sqlite in /tmp/repo/: done! root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ls -l /tmp/repo/ total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2316 Dec 4 16:52 python-2.7_1,2.txz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1636 Dec 4 16:59 repo.txz I'm going to look up other versions of pkg and try to narrow down the = one that borks things up for me. -- Dam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 17:40:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2D7AB29 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B6CD11B5 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB4He10X064667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:40:01 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk rB4He10X064667 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/rB4He10X064667; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <529F68EA.90809@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:39:54 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg repo not creating repo.txz on 8.4-STABLE References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i4tRHc4hCNXIM7n6hBnqBc4fgh39lxSQv" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:40:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --i4tRHc4hCNXIM7n6hBnqBc4fgh39lxSQv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/13 17:07, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > Hello list, >=20 >=20 >=20 > I've got this tiny problem where issuing `pkg repo /tmp/repo/All` won't= yield a repo.txz file, anywhere at all. >=20 > /tmp/repo/All contains a single, very small python package (this is a r= eal, valid port), on purpose to minimize the size of ktrace dumps. >=20 >=20 > # pkg version > root@bsd8:/ # pkg -v > 1.2.1 >=20 > # Contents of /tmp/repo/All/ > root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ > total 4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz >=20 > # Command used to create the repo > root@bsd8:/ # pkg repo /tmp/repo/All/ > Generating repository catalog in /tmp/repo/All/: done! >=20 > # Resulting files , note that digests and packagesite were generated su= ccessfully > root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ > total 12 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 256 Dec 4 16:46 digests.txz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 712 Dec 4 16:46 packagesite.txz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz >=20 >=20 >=20 > I've tried gleaning info from both truss and ktrace, with the following= results from kdump: >=20 > # Actual ktrace > ktrace pkg repo -q /tmp/repo/All/ >=20 > # grep repo.txz during kdump > root@bsd8:/ # kdump | grep -C 8 repo.txz > 2254 initial thread CALL munmap(0x802400000,0xe00000) > 2254 initial thread RET munmap 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL close(0x3) > 2254 initial thread RET close 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL unlink(0x7fffffffe580) > 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//digests" > 2254 initial thread RET unlink 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL stat(0x7fffffffe170,0x7fffffffe0c0) > 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//repo.txz" > 2254 initial thread RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory > 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe990,0x8020= 04298) > 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) > 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe950,0x8020= 04298) > 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) >=20 >=20 > Meh, what gives, no such file ? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Out of curiosity and to prove I'm not trying to get anyone else to do m= y homework, I've taken the liberty of grabbing an earlier version of `pkg= ` at: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bapt/pkg-1.0-rc= 6.tar.xz >=20 > Building and using pkg-static from these sources does yield the correct= repo file : >=20 > root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ./pkg-static repo /tmp/repo= / > Generating repo.sqlite in /tmp/repo/: done! > root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ls -l /tmp/repo/ > total 8 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2316 Dec 4 16:52 python-2.7_1,2.txz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1636 Dec 4 16:59 repo.txz >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I'm going to look up other versions of pkg and try to narrow down the o= ne that borks things up for me. Hi, Fleuriot, Not sure what's going on there in your ktrace, but not generating a repo.txz is normal for pkg-1.2.x. Instead, all the data is in the digests.txz file -- which if you look at it is a tarfile containing a single YAML document, plus possibly some crypto signature stuff if you've enabled that. Make sure your pkg clients are all running pkg-1.2 and it should just work for you. 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micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LuXFhRUvBTKDv3ru20JbjPMXRRvweobFX" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:45:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --LuXFhRUvBTKDv3ru20JbjPMXRRvweobFX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/13 17:39, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 12/04/13 17:07, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> >> >> I've got this tiny problem where issuing `pkg repo /tmp/repo/All` won'= t yield a repo.txz file, anywhere at all. >> >> /tmp/repo/All contains a single, very small python package (this is a = real, valid port), on purpose to minimize the size of ktrace dumps. >> >> >> # pkg version >> root@bsd8:/ # pkg -v >> 1.2.1 >> >> # Contents of /tmp/repo/All/ >> root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ >> total 4 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz >> >> # Command used to create the repo >> root@bsd8:/ # pkg repo /tmp/repo/All/ >> Generating repository catalog in /tmp/repo/All/: done! >> >> # Resulting files , note that digests and packagesite were generated s= uccessfully >> root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ >> total 12 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 256 Dec 4 16:46 digests.txz >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 712 Dec 4 16:46 packagesite.txz >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz >> >> >> >> I've tried gleaning info from both truss and ktrace, with the followin= g results from kdump: >> >> # Actual ktrace >> ktrace pkg repo -q /tmp/repo/All/ >> >> # grep repo.txz during kdump >> root@bsd8:/ # kdump | grep -C 8 repo.txz >> 2254 initial thread CALL munmap(0x802400000,0xe00000) >> 2254 initial thread RET munmap 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL close(0x3) >> 2254 initial thread RET close 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL unlink(0x7fffffffe580) >> 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//digests" >> 2254 initial thread RET unlink 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL stat(0x7fffffffe170,0x7fffffffe0c0) >> 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//repo.txz" >> 2254 initial thread RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory >> 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe990,0x802= 004298) >> 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) >> 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe950,0x802= 004298) >> 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) >> >> >> Meh, what gives, no such file ? >> >> >> >> >> Out of curiosity and to prove I'm not trying to get anyone else to do = my homework, I've taken the liberty of grabbing an earlier version of `pk= g` at: >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bapt/pkg-1.0-r= c6.tar.xz >> >> Building and using pkg-static from these sources does yield the correc= t repo file : >> >> root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ./pkg-static repo /tmp/rep= o/ >> Generating repo.sqlite in /tmp/repo/: done! >> root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ls -l /tmp/repo/ >> total 8 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2316 Dec 4 16:52 python-2.7_1,2.txz >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1636 Dec 4 16:59 repo.txz >> >> >> >> >> I'm going to look up other versions of pkg and try to narrow down the = one that borks things up for me. >=20 > Hi, Fleuriot, >=20 > Not sure what's going on there in your ktrace, but not generating a > repo.txz is normal for pkg-1.2.x. Instead, all the data is in the > digests.txz file -- which if you look at it is a tarfile containing a > single YAML document, plus possibly some crypto signature stuff if > you've enabled that. Make sure your pkg clients are all running pkg-1.= 2 > and it should just work for you. Errr... actually all the package meta-data should all be in packagesite.txz -- digests.txz is a cutdown list. If you read pkg-repository(5) it explains it much better. 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>>=20 >> # Resulting files , note that digests and packagesite were generated = successfully >> root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ >> total 12 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 256 Dec 4 16:46 digests.txz >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 712 Dec 4 16:46 packagesite.txz >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I've tried gleaning info from both truss and ktrace, with the = following results from kdump: >>=20 >> # Actual ktrace >> ktrace pkg repo -q /tmp/repo/All/ >>=20 >> # grep repo.txz during kdump >> root@bsd8:/ # kdump | grep -C 8 repo.txz >> 2254 initial thread CALL munmap(0x802400000,0xe00000) >> 2254 initial thread RET munmap 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL close(0x3) >> 2254 initial thread RET close 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL unlink(0x7fffffffe580) >> 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//digests" >> 2254 initial thread RET unlink 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL stat(0x7fffffffe170,0x7fffffffe0c0) >> 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//repo.txz" >> 2254 initial thread RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory >> 2254 initial thread CALL = sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe990,0x802004298) >> 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) >> 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL = sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe950,0x802004298) >> 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 >> 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) >>=20 >>=20 >> Meh, what gives, no such file ? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Out of curiosity and to prove I'm not trying to get anyone else to do = my homework, I've taken the liberty of grabbing an earlier version of = `pkg` at: >> = ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bapt/pkg-1.0-rc6.t= ar.xz >>=20 >> Building and using pkg-static from these sources does yield the = correct repo file : >>=20 >> root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ./pkg-static repo = /tmp/repo/ >> Generating repo.sqlite in /tmp/repo/: done! >> root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ls -l /tmp/repo/ >> total 8 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2316 Dec 4 16:52 python-2.7_1,2.txz >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1636 Dec 4 16:59 repo.txz >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I'm going to look up other versions of pkg and try to narrow down the = one that borks things up for me. >=20 > Hi, Fleuriot, >=20 > Not sure what's going on there in your ktrace, but not generating a > repo.txz is normal for pkg-1.2.x. Instead, all the data is in the > digests.txz file -- which if you look at it is a tarfile containing a > single YAML document, plus possibly some crypto signature stuff if > you've enabled that. Make sure your pkg clients are all running = pkg-1.2 > and it should just work for you. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 >=20 I suspected repo.txz might not be needed anymore but wanted to make sure = first, since ktrace mentionned a file not found error for it. I guess I was trusting overmuch in "pkg help repo" which still = references repo.txz. I suppose man 8 pkg-repo will want an update though, at the very least = to tell people it's deprecated as of 1.2.x and to look at pkg-repository = instead. Thanks for the insight Matthew ! (pssst, first name's Damien ;) ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 17:57:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16B9F394 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C770412F3 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VoGhY-0007IM-8f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:57:32 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:57:32 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:57:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: pkg repo not creating repo.txz on 8.4-STABLE Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:57:41 -0000 On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:07:58 +0100, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > Hello list, > > > > I've got this tiny problem where issuing `pkg repo /tmp/repo/All` won't > yield a repo.txz file, anywhere at all. > It seems that since 1.2.1, 'pkg repo' no longer creates a repo.txz file; but digests.txz and packagesite.txz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 18:04:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76E1E8B1 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B5ED13A1 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id hn9so4294886wib.6 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:04:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=HNpQkTmxe57BU49qzZY/DfSZx1J5A4ntLPKga+isADE=; b=Bo0mMLzt1pvVuL/dYUi9MrA3NOTgkBn0R1zcOPN8PAPxLgiiL1VYzEg3SAv0ysL20G XGvTZYr74RZn1SJK4n0afcqeB9HwNiY51XEy96Zbx+g8xlj2r/4TWbPpu2FymPUWXU2T XTB1wx+ot5LuAhEe28cv9xIXitr9ny2SZKu1Sh9XPwbza7+uXml8fw7NvVetFMFmE0ie tNh6ik6YMJ7R1PARrw+M+QXPIUnBv2MFqly3UQa7Xsm/XhEybSY2ZgtJRHDwNHnG/mik paJx/Yp0sswclaOsjSAE4REl/Z9mGw3262kkwTM+MZdrYar5TdagLiSMPkAlh2ka0WK2 7ZMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlSVLRGJWQL6eXw1pI3F/mIeIYt/+N4Q1uc3DjNOibPYLxuWRf3AjrDDy2IDWyYbDZRxI6L X-Received: by 10.181.11.201 with SMTP id ek9mr8224807wid.54.1386178505168; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot.paris.hi-media-techno.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w20sm8867319wia.5.2013.12.04.09.35.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Dec 2013 09:35:04 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: pkg repo not creating repo.txz on 8.4-STABLE From: Fleuriot Damien In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:35:03 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:04:02 -0000 On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > Hello list, >=20 >=20 >=20 > I've got this tiny problem where issuing `pkg repo /tmp/repo/All` = won't yield a repo.txz file, anywhere at all. >=20 > /tmp/repo/All contains a single, very small python package (this is a = real, valid port), on purpose to minimize the size of ktrace dumps. >=20 >=20 > # pkg version > root@bsd8:/ # pkg -v > 1.2.1 >=20 > # Contents of /tmp/repo/All/ > root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ > total 4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz >=20 > # Command used to create the repo > root@bsd8:/ # pkg repo /tmp/repo/All/ > Generating repository catalog in /tmp/repo/All/: done! >=20 > # Resulting files , note that digests and packagesite were generated = successfully > root@bsd8:/ # ls -l /tmp/repo/All/ > total 12 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 256 Dec 4 16:46 digests.txz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 712 Dec 4 16:46 packagesite.txz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2312 Dec 4 15:57 python2-2_1.txz >=20 >=20 >=20 > I've tried gleaning info from both truss and ktrace, with the = following results from kdump: >=20 > # Actual ktrace > ktrace pkg repo -q /tmp/repo/All/ >=20 > # grep repo.txz during kdump > root@bsd8:/ # kdump | grep -C 8 repo.txz > 2254 initial thread CALL munmap(0x802400000,0xe00000) > 2254 initial thread RET munmap 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL close(0x3) > 2254 initial thread RET close 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL unlink(0x7fffffffe580) > 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//digests" > 2254 initial thread RET unlink 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL stat(0x7fffffffe170,0x7fffffffe0c0) > 2254 initial thread NAMI "/tmp/repo/All//repo.txz" > 2254 initial thread RET stat -1 errno 2 No such file or directory > 2254 initial thread CALL = sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe990,0x802004298) > 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) > 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL = sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x7fffffffe950,0x802004298) > 2254 initial thread RET sigprocmask 0 > 2254 initial thread CALL sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x802004298,0) >=20 >=20 > Meh, what gives, no such file ? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Out of curiosity and to prove I'm not trying to get anyone else to do = my homework, I've taken the liberty of grabbing an earlier version of = `pkg` at: > = ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bapt/pkg-1.0-rc6.t= ar.xz >=20 > Building and using pkg-static from these sources does yield the = correct repo file : >=20 > root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ./pkg-static repo = /tmp/repo/ > Generating repo.sqlite in /tmp/repo/: done! > root@bsd8:/tmp/pkg/pkg-1.0-rc6/pkg-static # ls -l /tmp/repo/ > total 8 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2316 Dec 4 16:52 python-2.7_1,2.txz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1636 Dec 4 16:59 repo.txz >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I'm going to look up other versions of pkg and try to narrow down the = one that borks things up for me. >=20 >=20 > -- > Dam >=20 OK got some more input. I've tried older `pkg` versions from the mastersite listed in = /usr/ports/ports-mgt/pkg/Makefile : http://files.etoilebsd.net/pkg/pkg-1.1.4.tar.xz http://files.etoilebsd.net/pkg/pkg-1.2.0.b1.tar.xz http://files.etoilebsd.net/pkg/pkg-1.2.0.b2.tar.xz http://files.etoilebsd.net/pkg/pkg-1.2.0.rc1.tar.xz http://files.etoilebsd.net/pkg/pkg-1.2.tar.xz http://files.etoilebsd.net/pkg/pkg-1.2.1.tar.xz Test results are as follows, every `pkg` was compiled from source: 1.0rc6: OK, creates repo.txz 1.1.4: OK, creates repo.txz + packagesite.txz + digests.txz 1.2.0b1: NOK, doesn't create repo.txz 1.2.0b2: NOK, doesn't create repo.txz 1.2.0rc1: NOK, doesn't create repo.txz 1.2.0: NOK, doesn't create repo.txz 1.2.1: NOK, doesn't create repo.txz Since there are many 1.1.4 bugfix releases of `pkg`, I'll try getting my = hands on each and test them in turn. Obviously, something broke for me (and possibly others ?) somewhere = between 1.1.4 and 1.2.0b1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 18:19:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC63AC41 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F46414F9 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cc10so8628945wib.10 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:19:33 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=AOAcOkyMeUI596cgloPLKTRydMJ2Pkl1LQAYobHQAcU=; b=ByIyukYW0VIRk02P+Lc2xvpVCZmG3HQNlO6diH3wiuHPCj0mBdgjheT3+3pCAg90ym QEBb1SJFQ+xg32t2hCtBuTXhkYUbN0cLQKNOfIw/PQmNmj5jRqJmY5DJ5TGzZrZKB5a2 yXGqcqq+BcH/1aXr5S2NXvPKKZyAsPnHiaF1rX91HT7wAzeasfWs/1OYSGjE1+Lr8+2i Kd+RjxCRucazQLFfSh8aZHNyIkHgtrnzQThP5vODUD28kVZvVDiIIr9YcNIYnwDQBXOe 6kJuyCcM1lbPh3zrrTRc1s7jYHwqBHcQDhS+JzR/ZZyN7U0/Zp4L2MRY7WRO9uEi9X8A g1Kw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkxhG0AtTDqkFFTFSn/b9jAin1bfj2d7e2VWokpPEqVX3v/zFY9ZgZYDHnWJerzEXLDu5Us X-Received: by 10.181.12.20 with SMTP id em20mr8645816wid.0.1386181173754; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:19:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot.paris.hi-media-techno.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id je17sm9219137wic.4.2013.12.04.10.19.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:19:32 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: pkg repo not creating repo.txz on 8.4-STABLE From: Fleuriot Damien In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:19:31 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9E4899FB-1668-4D07-A31D-D49EA5835CC6@my.gd> References: To: Walter Hurry X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:19:42 -0000 On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:07:58 +0100, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> >> >> I've got this tiny problem where issuing `pkg repo /tmp/repo/All` won't >> yield a repo.txz file, anywhere at all. >> > It seems that since 1.2.1, 'pkg repo' no longer creates a repo.txz file; > but digests.txz and packagesite.txz > Aye Walter, so it seems, and Matthew confirmed. Methinks it still warrants an entry in man 8 pkg-repo ;) Thanks for your input ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 18:31:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8B3319B for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22e.google.com (mail-pd0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A108F15F0 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f174.google.com with SMTP id y13so22902525pdi.19 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:31:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7zXfnh/H0/liytnnl8O5amvkHQ0zawhj3ONvRFqHuio=; b=axsTc2Un+kCcl7zSqnFtShlWnF/KgXA3/0JzOpgklsgBI6Mzne8Wv0Gswz5hHvATJ3 351ulyqT9+x07jwuwIjFat4Xy48VO176BJ2c7SfoSXgtQVOcDFHIHjG/CZxGa+8T18p7 QpliGcecpgGd/ljUl7NxIMgmBP0d2OLNVYCAUilaSIVk5iy6uVhnlp7iDYBpHrvEyAU6 avQuSQnIDbLIW99L3xW6Idvt38Z+bbDZm9+5PogtRIqy059tqBPyoJ4yYTqoJfAjOG0a 0tiL/4/PhwOBBeDTDvlmuNtZJ/H2GYY3KfOjGdYO1cSr2CG9/UklCbzZUydsEqVAlCGj tOZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.192.198 with SMTP id hi6mr84337655pac.87.1386181865299; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.239.201 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 10:31:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131204185343.232cb68e@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20131204155907.38ab9f72@X220.ovitrap.com> <20131204111541.97550134.freebsd@edvax.de> <20131204185343.232cb68e@X220.ovitrap.com> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 13:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Minimum size of a UFS partition From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:31:05 -0000 On 4 December 2013 05:53, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:15:41 +0100 > Polytropon wrote: > >> On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 15:59:07 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > does anybody know how small a partition for UFS can get? >> > >> > I would need a very small partition of even below 1.44 MB. >> >> That should be possible by applying specific options to newfs > > with the other tip, I came to a size of 1MB for the given application. > > Erich A bit of experimentation: # mdconfig -s 2048 md0 # newfs -O 1 -b 4096 -f 4096 -i 16384 -s 4 /dev/md0 Filesystem size 0 < minimum size of 8 # newfs -O 1 -b 4096 -f 4096 -i 16384 -s 40 /dev/md0 Filesystem size 5 < minimum size of 8 # newfs -O 1 -b 4096 -f 4096 -i 16384 -s 64 /dev/md0 /dev/md0: 0.0MB (64 sectors) block size 4096, fragment size 4096 using 1 cylinder groups of 0.03MB, 8 blks, 32 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at: 32 first cylinder group ran out of space # newfs -O 1 -b 4096 -f 4096 -i 16384 -s 80 /dev/md0 /dev/md0: 0.0MB (80 sectors) block size 4096, fragment size 4096 using 1 cylinder groups of 0.04MB, 10 blks, 32 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at: 32 first cylinder group ran out of space # newfs -O 1 -b 4096 -f 4096 -i 16384 -s 96 /dev/md0 /dev/md0: 0.0MB (96 sectors) block size 4096, fragment size 4096 using 1 cylinder groups of 0.05MB, 12 blks, 32 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at: 32 So, the answer is: pretty small! Cheers. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 21:44:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 826C6F44 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 21:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 222AB138D for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 21:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB4LiX2c008108 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:44:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <529FA253.2000900@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:44:51 -0500 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: PPPoE help X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 64.7.153.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 21:44:35 -0000 Googling around this problem occasionally comes up, but I have yet to find a definitive answer. An ISP is changing out their LACs and when they are doing a hot cut, this sometimes messes up the pppoe ppp process so it gets stuck in a loop and never recovers. Killing off the ppp process and restarts it works and all is fixed. But this still on rare occasion will come up. Does anyone know the cause or work around ? I did manage to catch one and up the debug logs. None debug looks like Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(10) state = Initial Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(11) state = Initial Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. Nov 26 15:30:04 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: LCP: deflink: RecvEchoRequest(174) state = Opened Nov 26 15:30:04 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(174) state = Opened Nov 26 15:30:05 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(12) state = Initial Config is simple pppoe: add 10.6.153.2 HISADDR add default HISADDR set device PPPoE:vr0 set server /var/run/spdsl-internet "" 0177 set speed sync enable echo disable ipv6cp disable vjcomp set cd 15 set dial set login set timeout 0 set lqrperiod 10 set authname s0332@realm set authkey xxxxxxxx set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 With debugging Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns 1 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: read Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: 80 21 01 97 00 0a 03 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 12/2048 from 1 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: Read Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: 80 21 01 97 00 0a 03 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: proto_LayerPull: unknown -> 0x8021 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: link_PullPacket: Despatch proto 0x8021 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(151) state = Initial Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns -1 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- Begin of Timer Service List--- Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: physical throughput timer[0x28411068]: freq = 1.00s, next = 0.00s, state = running Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: lqm timer[0x28413df4]: freq = 10.00s, next = 2.40s, state = running Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: hdlc timer[0x28413db0]: freq = 60.00s, next = 52.40s, state = running Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- End of Timer Service List --- Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: timer_Start: Inserting physical throughput timer[0x28411068] before lqm timer[0x28413df4], delta = 10 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns -1 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- Begin of Timer Service List--- Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: physical throughput timer[0x28411068]: freq = 1.00s, next = 0.00s, state = running Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: lqm timer[0x28413df4]: freq = 10.00s, next = 1.40s, state = running Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: hdlc timer[0x28413db0]: freq = 60.00s, next = 51.40s, state = running Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- End of Timer Service List --- Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: timer_Start: Inserting physical throughput timer[0x28411068] before lqm timer[0x28413df4], delta = 10 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns 1 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: read Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: 80 21 01 98 00 0a 03 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 12/2048 from 1 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: Read Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: 80 21 01 98 00 0a 03 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: proto_LayerPull: unknown -> 0x8021 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: link_PullPacket: Despatch proto 0x8021 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(152) state = Initial Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 23:01:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 965A9255 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B50C1838 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B308733C1D; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7676139830; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Unga Subject: Re: Having every daemon put itself into the background is bad software design References: <1386092314.98211.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:01:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1386092314.98211.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> (Unga's message of "Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:38:34 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <444n6ofcfw.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:01:31 -0000 Unga writes: > Dr. D. J. Bernstein says "Having every daemon put itself into the background > is bad software design." in http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/faq/create.html . You have to realize that in saying that, DJB is using his own definitions of multiple terms, subtly different from the usual senses of those words. You have to be aware that you're dealing with someone who goes his own way in order to make progress with his approaches to things. > That is, is it possible to write a daemon to run in foreground and automatically started at system boot up (via /etc/rc.conf)? Note that rc.conf doesn't actually do anything by itself. It contains only settings that other scripts will use for configuring various settings. I will assume that when you say "rc.conf" you mean the whole system, with scripts in rc.d and so forth. In which case, the answer is still "not directly"; if you want to, you would install daemontools and use that to start the program in question. > Does he means after fork(2), the parent continue to run? Can such a program started via the /etc/rc.conf without a terminal attached? No. As I understand it, the idea is that there's no fork needed at all, because the program invocation blocks and remains the process leader. > Btw, I got in to this problem by trying to use DJB's daemontools to > supervise my server running on FreeBSD. But it creates zombie > processes and spawn quite fast. In my daemons, after fork(2), parent > returns. To be honest, I suspect you don't really have the background to understand what daemontools is supposed to do for you. Most daemons *only* fork in order to background themselves. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 23:23:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 704D46E0 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F04196D for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 23:23:10 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from elsewhere.tellme3times ([24.37.212.120]) by VL-VM-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MXB001IB2AME600@VL-VM-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.7.61] (unknown [192.168.7.61]) by elsewhere.tellme3times (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025DB3981A; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:23:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: PPPoE help From: Chris In-reply-to: <529FA253.2000900@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:23:09 -0500 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <529FA253.2000900@sentex.net> To: Mike Tancsa X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:23:11 -0000 I have a workaround that I've been using for a long time which works = great for me and some clients who can only connect with PPPoE It can be found here; http://logicsquad.net/freebsd/pingmonitor-how-to.html You don't have to reinvent your own solution. It would be great if ppp = would reset when the connection gets "jammed" Chris chris@lrckinfo.com --------------------------------------------------------------- 514.884.8185 320, rue de la Fenaison Varennes, Qu=E9bec, J3X 2H2 --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.lrckinfo.com On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Googling around this problem occasionally comes up, but I have yet to > find a definitive answer. An ISP is changing out their LACs and when > they are doing a hot cut, this sometimes messes up the pppoe ppp = process > so it gets stuck in a loop and never recovers. Killing off the ppp > process and restarts it works and all is fixed. >=20 > But this still on rare occasion will come up. Does anyone know the > cause or work around ? I did manage to catch one and up the debug = logs. >=20 > None debug looks like >=20 > Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: = RecvConfigReq(10) > state =3D Initial > Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 > Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in = Initial. > Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: = RecvConfigReq(11) > state =3D Initial > Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 > Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in = Initial. > Nov 26 15:30:04 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: LCP: deflink: > RecvEchoRequest(174) state =3D Opened > Nov 26 15:30:04 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: LCP: deflink: = SendEchoReply(174) > state =3D Opened > Nov 26 15:30:05 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: = RecvConfigReq(12) > state =3D Initial >=20 >=20 > Config is simple >=20 >=20 > pppoe: > add 10.6.153.2 HISADDR > add default HISADDR > set device PPPoE:vr0 > set server /var/run/spdsl-internet "" 0177 > set speed sync > enable echo > disable ipv6cp > disable vjcomp > set cd 15 > set dial > set login > set timeout 0 > set lqrperiod 10 > set authname s0332@realm > set authkey xxxxxxxx > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 >=20 > With debugging >=20 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns 1 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: read > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: 80 21 01 97 00 0a 03 > 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: > read 12/2048 from 1 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: Read > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: 80 21 01 97 00 0a 03 06 = 43 > 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: proto_LayerPull: unknown > -> 0x8021 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: link_PullPacket: = Despatch > proto 0x8021 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: = RecvConfigReq(151) > state =3D Initial > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in = Initial. > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) = 0 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 > Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt > /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns -1 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- Begin of Timer > Service List--- > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: physical throughput > timer[0x28411068]: freq =3D 1.00s, next =3D 0.00s, state =3D running > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: lqm timer[0x28413df4]: > freq =3D 10.00s, next =3D 2.40s, state =3D running > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: hdlc timer[0x28413db0]: > freq =3D 60.00s, next =3D 52.40s, state =3D running > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- End of Timer = Service > List --- > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: timer_Start: Inserting > physical throughput timer[0x28411068] before lqm timer[0x28413df4], > delta =3D 10 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) = 0 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 > Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt > /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns -1 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- Begin of Timer > Service List--- > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: physical throughput > timer[0x28411068]: freq =3D 1.00s, next =3D 0.00s, state =3D running > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: lqm timer[0x28413df4]: > freq =3D 10.00s, next =3D 1.40s, state =3D running > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: hdlc timer[0x28413db0]: > freq =3D 60.00s, next =3D 51.40s, state =3D running > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- End of Timer = Service > List --- > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: timer_Start: Inserting > physical throughput timer[0x28411068] before lqm timer[0x28413df4], > delta =3D 10 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) = 0 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt > /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns 1 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: read > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: 80 21 01 98 00 0a 03 > 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: > read 12/2048 from 1 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: Read > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: 80 21 01 98 00 0a 03 06 = 43 > 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: proto_LayerPull: unknown > -> 0x8021 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: link_PullPacket: = Despatch > proto 0x8021 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: = RecvConfigReq(152) > state =3D Initial > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in = Initial. > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 > Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) = 0 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 00:09:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11A79E32 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABB81CE9 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd.asgard.uk ([92.238.71.115]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id xc8x1m00K2VE8Jc01c8zu8; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:09:01 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [92.238.71.115] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=Qfbov6rv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:117 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:17 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=g8DGSEr-gRIA:10 a=z6OmtuC8ihAA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U4kjxnpeAAAA:8 a=RIXHdJ6alCwA:10 a=XZIQ03Hw2ihuBsw9AdEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:08:54 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312031144.40570.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <529E6F80.7050705@ShaneWare.Biz> In-Reply-To: <529E6F80.7050705@ShaneWare.Biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201312050008.54995.freebsd01@dgmm.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:09:13 -0000 On Tuesday 03 December 2013 23:55:44 Shane Ambler wrote: > On 03/12/2013 22:14, dgmm wrote: > > On Tuesday 03 December 2013 09:48:04 krad wrote: > >> or you could use the @reboot option, that would mean it always runs at > >> crons start, which may not be what you want, > > > > Yes, that was my first thought but the overheads at boot time might be > > inconvenient although I'll try it to find out. > > Or write a rc script to run it at shutdown? Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for. There's no downside. It doesn't matter if it take longer to shut down and in general it gets shut fown every day. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 00:36:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CA8C602 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B721E71 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id xcbD1m00N4XeM0101cbEo0; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:35:14 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:35:14 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: how to save a web video? Message-ID: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:36:51 -0000 Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. hi guys, anybody how howto save a video stream from the web? they come/go too quickly for my taste! tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 00:46:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 194398D2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (e.febed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B86141EF9 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB50hmnY065732; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:43:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:40:55 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: how to save a web video? In-Reply-To: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> Message-ID: References: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:46:17 -0000 On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Gary Kline wrote: > Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. > Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. > > > hi guys, > > anybody how howto save a video stream from the web? > they come/go too quickly for my taste! There is www/youtube_dl in ports. For other than youtube, it will vary, and sometimes not be possible to me with my limited knowledge. Sometimes I have been able to 'view page source' (control-U in Firefox) and find a direct URL to the media file in there. Hope this helps. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 00:57:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35BE722F for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 017101FA1 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa05.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rB50v4Rc012982 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:57:04 -0600 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.242.182.122) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:57:03 -0600 Message-ID: <529FCF5D.6050305@fisglobal.com> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:57:01 -0800 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: how to save a web video? References: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.242.182.122] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.72, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-12-04_08:2013-12-05,2013-12-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:57:06 -0000 On 12/04/2013 16:40, Chris Hill wrote: > On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Gary Kline wrote: > >> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. >> Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. >> >> >> hi guys, >> >> anybody how howto save a video stream from the web? >> they come/go too quickly for my taste! > > There is www/youtube_dl in ports. For other than youtube, it will vary, and sometimes not be possible to me with my limited knowledge. Sometimes I have been able to 'view page source' (control-U in Firefox) and find a direct URL to the media file in there. > > Hope this helps. > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ Works rather well. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 03:36:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C138DC8F for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 03:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF861880 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 03:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id xfbG1m00J4XeM0101fbGJL; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:35:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:35:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Hill Subject: Re: how to save a web video? Message-ID: <20131205033517.GA10906@ethic.thought.org> References: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:36:53 -0000 Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 07:40:55PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Gary Kline wrote: > > >Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. > >Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. > > > > > > hi guys, > > > > anybody how howto save a video stream from the web? > > they come/go too quickly for my taste! > > There is www/youtube_dl in ports. For other than youtube, it will > vary, and sometimes not be possible to me with my limited knowledge. > Sometimes I have been able to 'view page source' (control-U in > Firefox) and find a direct URL to the media file in there. > > Hope this helps. > No joy, but thanks for replying/. I will make a "fetchaudio" program my last project for FBSD. I'm wearing out, but the one thing I want to contribute before I hang up my spurs--er, keyboard--is a non-GUI port that, after the user inputs, will go out and get webcasts in mp3, and store somewhere. so the ' user will have several audio file to listen to << whenever >>. I was hoping to use videos like NOVA too, but that may not work. gary > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging ] -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community. http://www.thought.org/HOPE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 05:33:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BA92AA7 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 05:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22a.google.com (mail-pd0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436021E56 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 05:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id g10so23928652pdj.15 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 21:33:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=46ntBz3/a+M8rOQJB5VWRUOoXS9XEZgf0MJ5dy6WQ3M=; b=zVUuD4Db98rY08MMg9Rg2MXWoIlF/h3oVhXpHRq6/4u/586IDFBL3RrzetOd1+xF7/ WGtPZKnBJfwZfIvJ9Qcsf3bY7+lxapWtimy7KuVP0mlXSU0ygIzz593DuFMOFNZ+yst2 8V8BnIzofOOMvp8Fb3MXLtT4dsp27iBG6cgpjj/Z7Hte9FSor9ggtcOWn7v/ifkFRcJD lHQzT/QWwGsNMQxsjS5nh6o/LslfpdXaDp+ASP3WCd+XCzKGdckXprVUJANiUpAVL6lX no+VFOwiyKHZsmpvaRnJTrUmwRQ6eO7uj/Dy1RMDCcxwkXRrH/0T9RX2wI3rAAWN6OJd A+Pw== X-Received: by 10.68.110.132 with SMTP id ia4mr43007727pbb.99.1386221602376; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 21:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [223.250.73.53] ([223.250.73.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jn12sm100330042pbd.37.2013.12.04.21.33.20 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Dec 2013 21:33:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> Subject: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: iijima yoshino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:33:12 +0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 05:33:23 -0000 Firstly, I know gnome3 needs systemd and systemd needs Linux. So ... whatever. I thought it's impossible to make gnome3 run on BSD systems, but the OpenBSD shocked me! Wow, Gnome 3.8! You know, they're kind of freaks. And now the PCBSD announced a next image which includes Gnome3/Cinnamon desktops. Therefore it's not impossible. So why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gonme3 port? PS:the kde-meta port is too huge, and breaks often that makes a bad experience for desktop purpose. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 06:41:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 263E26D9 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 06:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f54.google.com (mail-qa0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D593A1142 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 06:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id f11so7415822qae.20 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:41:13 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Qsv1BS8HKmdjgqksfT2UiyWFL9HCbuO/mZQ7MrX7984=; b=XHzwXHLCDzOVhMr991kEP9KhP3ePEC36p1hFZAy5rI1/ZRNQtfznbGn34BAT9qt1Gd O8SgXs4boEJLemjxm5g0T1QOp9cShNYv9YNJTJFQMTMdzDG/cgxfWjR79MglNMXyvLq9 WwJSIrr1EEa+LNFG5TyxMwLledABIAJPIxItboACjbtc4cmPCfc1EB9ykE95eXdkHS08 A6O6uEKrUup+ZLNMkAJ7eFCDFVuwVM0Sz7a2R2adscC54zyLBJzHDDmIVPoN7+C2yQor 5zOBveFzS/5/oUO0r2VJUgoaRp5WEoIE7tO8aSPjE1vFKrKAT3izj/guToHTJeYJ/dRJ Wmjg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkJrrJw8wdHuE7o5z7XaW8g3NhRE+S2+n3oFUsIPf94vwssCwJU8uAPOdP7fgvUk/etyjZh X-Received: by 10.224.120.10 with SMTP id b10mr143535944qar.64.1386215385168; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:49:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.40.163 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:49:25 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [174.89.245.130] In-Reply-To: <20131205033517.GA10906@ethic.thought.org> References: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> <20131205033517.GA10906@ethic.thought.org> From: Iqbal Aroussi Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 22:49:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to save a web video? To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:41:20 -0000 I use cclive, works great for me. /usr/ports/multimedia/cclive Best Regards Iqbal Aroussi On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. > Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 07:40:55PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > >Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. > > >Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. > > > > > > > > > hi guys, > > > > > > anybody how howto save a video stream from the web? > > > they come/go too quickly for my taste! > > > > There is www/youtube_dl in ports. For other than youtube, it will > > vary, and sometimes not be possible to me with my limited knowledge. > > Sometimes I have been able to 'view page source' (control-U in > > Firefox) and find a direct URL to the media file in there. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > No joy, but thanks for replying/. I will make a "fetchaudio" > program my last project for FBSD. I'm wearing out, but the > one thing I want to contribute before I hang up my spurs--er, > keyboard--is a non-GUI port that, after the user inputs, will > go out and get webcasts in mp3, and store somewhere. so the ' > user will have several audio file to listen to << whenever >>. > > I was hoping to use videos like NOVA too, but that may not work. > > gary > > > > -- > > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > > ** [ Busy Expunging ] > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community. > http://www.thought.org/HOPE > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 11:08:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67351FD7 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x243.google.com (mail-qa0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B95D1272 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f67.google.com with SMTP id w5so2512747qac.2 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:08:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A2iHhmdHl3AfuI/h7u6KkembzqoNBNBnxSkQD5pS9S4=; b=BV8O6rGoCo2RR8hOJ26fK3fOpIqD6wC4ayNK2cXnfVsI0//Fp/LZ5QMRZmh59+9FuJ y2vSKOGrtOoJzhazvLUsYi0U72O0rd84Kq+xAzjLhs0P6DrgBoyuetB1nt78B5nshIDR m1mUXx5U6QUf6xHQVsLts7A1moAZb6cWC+B/E= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A2iHhmdHl3AfuI/h7u6KkembzqoNBNBnxSkQD5pS9S4=; b=HMQ+kftZqqp5mzHGGQZ8UtzAnCPvflkCj4me6ZLfMAGf8gJai4AvCA0mhyuGH5B53M 2mvXBXv1ZPIyompSbzxJU644jkEBNkr5p+yqkoFKwLVDRmwPc9NjLC0/3Kj7vBIHDG1n JEsa4V6M3V9WbRSZnT4xLh+/9arDm1J09PIcprbVvIsIn4kB91h2ZGcRfQapqIzJQURu S8XwSpZpWGRonX1T87561pdxoxIM+stqND+saFiOCFQw+Q7J5ZFL5ueF4dpK6MwQ2gF5 qZ4ZqlTcmqk436qx0pVYGdMjirB6YhYi4Tys5O2sYU5SL6jQsA3SrhdMB8prkS/rfZHv xQJw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn+ouvB/sqKVipjgxsIa54C27YKGEvvOTJtovDKxj1eCw5m+UAvmk1Bx6yuSmxt6gd1XSOw X-Received: by 10.224.11.68 with SMTP id s4mr148356066qas.88.1386241725880; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r5sm244213242qaj.13.2013.12.05.03.08.45 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:08:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 06:08:44 -0500 From: Jerry To: User questions , hrs@FreeBSD.org Subject: acroread9 crashed immediately after starting Message-ID: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: User questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:08:47 -0000 System: FreeBSD 10.0-BETA3 #0 r257580 amd64 I have "acroread9" installed because I write and frequently need to fill in online interactive PDF forms. I have Adobe Pro XI installed on a Windows 8.1 machine to create and modify interactive PDFs. It is the only program that I am aware of that can accomplish this. I was trying to to insure that the forms work correctly under different OSs. Using Firefox and its built in PDF program fails miserably. It cannot utilize the interactive properties of the PDF. I installed acroread9, but it simply crashes a few seconds after it starts. $ acroread9 Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf",= line 70: non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf",= line 70: non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf= ", line 78: saw unknown, expected number Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf",= line 70: non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf",= line 70: non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf= ", line 78: saw unknown, expected number terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RSException' This is line 70: This is line 78: =46rom the /var/message log: Dec 5 05:45:33 scorpio kernel: linux: pid 31377 (acroread): syscall inotif= y_init not implemented Is this a known issue? If so, then why is the application in the ports system if it will not run? If not, what do I have to do to get it to run successfully? --=20 Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 13:41:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84D6BE25 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com (mail-wg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A3881D8B for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n12so15787399wgh.9 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 05:41:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x9HNrjf/fq1pZXjEa6JwagZ2XM1EjBPN5jprc6CYIX0=; b=wJnmlXA3Kt9MEvr5Y5MGXl0XBddl3lSFbODbhHIfGeHC4iCRN4ja5kvCilfxHsdsBm NUrOtRJEfVLH0h4QElN5TvqkipBNXtjrv4ZfyzMXXHwfkecLfTOXkB8QLx9EWuoK9z05 +QDERAXFk0Qq9COBlruum9yZ/fX5UfHql+vHOJuHT3gL8RxD+Ifhp/3naI+akljm5DJB Yn0sybelSgeAeORVPeMe5sR8Q8J1OKugMcasSLp8b0TpBn8s8JIYPchgi8DU1JX1bukd 4Ynv3vsZ8MkGg5P6z4kiFy89YMSmh7mmAS/0vtrYE/TcdpQ0JFNOFyNN6UjeyUrTd7vy 8Vgg== X-Received: by 10.180.85.42 with SMTP id e10mr12136752wiz.1.1386250906375; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 05:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n6sm6429001wix.3.2013.12.05.05.41.44 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Dec 2013 05:41:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:41:42 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Message-ID: <20131205134142.3d6ad8d5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201312050008.54995.freebsd01@dgmm.net> References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312031144.40570.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <529E6F80.7050705@ShaneWare.Biz> <201312050008.54995.freebsd01@dgmm.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:41:48 -0000 On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:08:54 +0000 dgmm wrote: > On Tuesday 03 December 2013 23:55:44 Shane Ambler wrote: > > On 03/12/2013 22:14, dgmm wrote: > > > On Tuesday 03 December 2013 09:48:04 krad wrote: > > >> or you could use the @reboot option, that would mean it always > > >> runs at crons start, which may not be what you want, > > > > > > Yes, that was my first thought but the overheads at boot time > > > might be inconvenient although I'll try it to find out. > > > > Or write a rc script to run it at shutdown? > > Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for. There's no downside. Be aware that shutdown runs under a timeout. IIWY I'd install anacron, it a tiny binary, and it's designed for the problem you have. I'll run any number of tasks with arbitrary periodicity (in days), so it'll handle weekly and monthly scripts as well. It uses locking so you can run it from rc.d, cron or manually without having to worry about races. It can run it's tasks with staggered delays or serialize them. 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From: Luca Ferrari To: iijima yoshino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:13:16 -0000 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:33 AM, iijima yoshino wrote: > Firstly, I know gnome3 needs systemd and systemd needs Linux. So ... > whatever. > I thought it's impossible to make gnome3 run on BSD systems, but the > OpenBSD shocked me! Wow, Gnome 3.8! You know, they're kind of freaks. > And now the PCBSD announced a next image which includes Gnome3/Cinnamon > desktops. Therefore it's not impossible. > So why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gonme3 port? > There is at least one port, but I'm not sure it is actively maintained: http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/gnome3/ Besides, I believe that having or not having Gnome3 on *BSD is more a political issue (being Gnome tied to Linux) and to have developers to test and maintain the port. Luca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 14:30:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04BC99B2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x22f.google.com (mail-pb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD8F41059 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id um1so25989266pbc.34 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:30:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kFo/M/eS6MVQumPCbIKs902u0bCzLZLSBsPtjbzzFuk=; b=KeO+9ApaWNLSe3PV4r7NmYY72q9mRbaOG2OKTDzkRzfQqc7JR/1q46JhQgIaf5dt1X 9kSN9KhOySzdQfEG/boqGolMcjq8FMsEk4iuFZKOIUFZ5+60Z0YxaAkqLWwRhgN2jeEF 0Qkg2FzxmUX7hsCmQOIJS2pIOoKPNh0amiJA91CuPS6jivth80rZcBCN9tqNjbfvvLuP Y0xE8qmUew88bXo0m4VRZnxlS4EkMdQpFRjPpYyYrVwhZ2B12OTcFPOkmmuqgLacq3C2 kHMfN0+meWXXOKIOvUzzvBUfthgwWdGXPD2I1jMZ50o1pVKK0Gl4RcrwSMbJWVVjW1Ph TgsA== X-Received: by 10.68.138.226 with SMTP id qt2mr52755884pbb.65.1386253820447; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [223.250.73.53] ([223.250.73.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vk17sm12889171pab.5.2013.12.05.06.30.17 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:30:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: iijima yoshino To: Luca Ferrari Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 22:30:08 +0800 In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:30:21 -0000 在 2013-12-05四的 15:13 +0100，Luca Ferrari写道： > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:33 AM, iijima yoshino wrote: > > Firstly, I know gnome3 needs systemd and systemd needs Linux. So ... > > whatever. > > I thought it's impossible to make gnome3 run on BSD systems, but the > > OpenBSD shocked me! Wow, Gnome 3.8! You know, they're kind of freaks. > > And now the PCBSD announced a next image which includes Gnome3/Cinnamon > > desktops. Therefore it's not impossible. > > So why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gonme3 port? > > > > There is at least one port, but I'm not sure it is actively > maintained: http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/gnome3/ > Besides, I believe that having or not having Gnome3 on *BSD is more a > political issue (being Gnome tied to Linux) and to have developers to > test and maintain the port. > > Luca 2 years ago, what a shame. Even the OpenBSD team accepts the Gnome3 ... It seems the FreeBSD towards to a server-oriented way. 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From: "firmdog@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:35:59 -0000 I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the GENERIC kernel. I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T options. Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I have to compile a totally new kernel? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 14:41:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 747B1CD1 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com (mail-wg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 084701109 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id z12so16616383wgg.15 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:41:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=minrZFUwtHX74QK+ewlvHL/L7NSv6z5QhTAqNNpiiEA=; b=R7+wZ61yD4OvHwVNEvP4jwUWx16pWesmuwn3nBOxAXCpP7i87pNTlvtuATMd3//eQp jBmUKod8QV90OZzQPIieMH7AJoZgFr4vmJFXdmwm4utQAIUv1Ru7RV2N/0fflWQhxUDY RxbJd3DAIqam6+eBSFeFCge2UN5IuA3xpUmkYl6C7fX/isj/iEwPqTbV1KSTjgxzhyTb PZJLmFQbaRBZRyNWKfpny31pdXNlrFimtwdZvyKeF1/N77ATRVgfPQ55Tii/UzRrJEJa G/5FUfkrzKbXRJ6TWFTgPxXvYvP+9hqKjwqI7VVRMKG9QypWwrMIwQfNBzGOy/csPrbA YtAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.9.74 with SMTP id x10mr12309068wia.56.1386254465398; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.126.100 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 06:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.126.100 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 06:41:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:41:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: iijima yoshino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: User Questions , Luca Ferrari X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:41:07 -0000 El 05/12/2013 15:30, "iijima yoshino" escribi=C3= =B3: > > =E5=9C=A8 2013-12-05=E5=9B=9B=E7=9A=84 15:13 +0100=EF=BC=8CLuca Ferrari= =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:33 AM, iijima yoshino wrote: > > > Firstly, I know gnome3 needs systemd and systemd needs Linux. So ... > > > whatever. > > > I thought it's impossible to make gnome3 run on BSD systems, but the > > > OpenBSD shocked me! Wow, Gnome 3.8! You know, they're kind of freaks. > > > And now the PCBSD announced a next image which includes Gnome3/Cinnamon > > > desktops. Therefore it's not impossible. > > > So why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gonme3 port? > > > > > > > There is at least one port, but I'm not sure it is actively > > maintained: http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/gnome3/ > > Besides, I believe that having or not having Gnome3 on *BSD is more a > > political issue (being Gnome tied to Linux) and to have developers to > > test and maintain the port. > > > > Luca > > 2 years ago, what a shame. > Even the OpenBSD team accepts the Gnome3 ... > It seems the FreeBSD towards to a server-oriented way. Not really. But porting something that shows no interest in supporting anything but Linux is both difficult and tiring. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 14:42:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D457FD97 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68E691126 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z2so8343267wiv.12 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:42:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=bbNlJjAV8ne3Xz2o+SloPu2k14Nlrf7CVU0JhOher2E=; b=i6HyEOtG2a3ufM0lo/uqUSmw0GKHfhHj4AJJJA3eQqByr/B03MJd61zuZzlAthMIPG Gu7Tu40cSD6jBP0zJPw8E/omhZUrIxGDO5k9lTCNkNR3KZCK8RLGQPki3PJMChZevkJ7 A/KM3Mygz671KTzr5X8gOat7kjoCnVWAyF6eOIpRqJuGoVO9R5EGTBSQoggTox5xq7cL 8NaQetzFH7vekBQ9wQAv+nw0FQgrjLrmWr9sBipUoVuGn2ysYKSYCM2+USK468RHOftX CWAijC4C0H5l3X9DOwKwp+y87FFAcOCXwI6grxAN22ZoKfE6QPZ5YAaWn310NuRphRUj h+Iw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkkUOJ9Zdys0Gfk3TeaTc3HPAS1Y3zjb+GbJ8hsokvp6rosmRwP8xpe7pIWVCXLn78Umupx X-Received: by 10.180.76.204 with SMTP id m12mr12414001wiw.9.1386254539933; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot.paris.hi-media-techno.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e10sm6868234wiy.7.2013.12.05.06.42.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Dec 2013 06:42:19 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: do I have to compile a new kernel? or just add options somehow? From: Fleuriot Damien In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:42:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> References: To: "firmdog@gmail.com" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:42:22 -0000 On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the GENERIC > kernel. >=20 > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T options. >=20 > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I have = to > compile a totally new kernel? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: device crypto options IPSEC options IPSEC_NAT_T to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release that = is). Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and = reboot. It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , even if = you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the = included options and devices at: /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC or /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was = built with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 15:10:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC4A2708 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A3461315 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.118] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1VoaZb-0007NA-0i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:10:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:10:39 +0100 From: Markus Hoenicka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 =?UTF-8?Q?port=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> Message-ID: <57cd35243ed489e9f5870195edfe97e7@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:10:47 -0000 On 2013-12-05 15:41, Fernando Apesteguía was heard to say: > El 05/12/2013 15:30, "iijima yoshino" > escribió: >> >> 在 2013-12-05四的 15:13 +0100，Luca Ferrari写道： >> > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:33 AM, iijima yoshino > wrote: >> > > Firstly, I know gnome3 needs systemd and systemd needs Linux. So ... >> > > whatever. >> > > I thought it's impossible to make gnome3 run on BSD systems, but the >> > > OpenBSD shocked me! Wow, Gnome 3.8! You know, they're kind of freaks. >> > > And now the PCBSD announced a next image which includes > Gnome3/Cinnamon >> > > desktops. Therefore it's not impossible. >> > > So why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gonme3 port? >> > > >> > >> > There is at least one port, but I'm not sure it is actively >> > maintained: > http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/gnome3/ >> > Besides, I believe that having or not having Gnome3 on *BSD is more a >> > political issue (being Gnome tied to Linux) and to have developers to >> > test and maintain the port. >> > >> > Luca >> >> 2 years ago, what a shame. >> Even the OpenBSD team accepts the Gnome3 ... >> It seems the FreeBSD towards to a server-oriented way. > > Not really. But porting something that shows no interest in supporting > anything but Linux is both difficult and tiring. And it may not be worth the effort unless there is sufficient pressure from FreeBSD users who request Gnome 3. I've tested Gnome 3 briefly on a Linux box, and since then I understand very well why there is no such pressure. I was back to Xfce in no time. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 15:13:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D44237EC for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CF6B1337 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hq4so1009763wib.5 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:13:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zWN8LMLRAnr77Q3eAT5yXhZdVfAhJOhgoG/0sMl6C6k=; b=h+/f0dMNBYsrHFohJI3sARZ43ljmnm2Otd6yuEmPd312n50fiWB8pfIPLhV6Ece9O7 ZFkO9CPMCYzE7VgY26a+O49LyrqDejCmXETI6BMN4b5IvcDkS02bCX7uUspJFD/k+i97 ngFkrZVs/YcwCv/8pbKXe+OhNNdY4IgSwDN5DYSWZuVik6rqJNGVh5OHqizDXFClRVpp Jinb4ZF/Uoyp4+daKMB8c6aMJ/jnSN5ifzhIRf2AiXS8S7aE58aI+32toGn2VhrwLOf6 RYFg62RtSJYaUx/SsQnY122KqTq7Bv79UyRUL5/L6Crzi51cgpPi9JO/oRMxJ77wtRrv TpBA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.183.72 with SMTP id ek8mr12457685wic.49.1386256381809; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:13:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: fluca1978@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.44.6 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 07:13:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1386092314.98211.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1386092314.98211.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:13:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ETbMoqu8Ie-qMd7IWhwM15sBg0o Message-ID: Subject: Re: Having every daemon put itself into the background is bad software design From: Luca Ferrari To: Unga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:13:03 -0000 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Unga wrote: > Dr. D. J. Bernstein says "Having every daemon put itself into the background > is bad software design." in http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/faq/create.html . > Even having to configure or send to background every daemon by your own is a bad design. I suspect the key point here is that every daemon, before going to the background, should allow the admin to keep it on the foregorund for very specific debugging purposes. > Can someone provide a sample in C? > Yes: int main( int argc, char** argv ){ for ( ;; ) printf( "\nI'm still here!" ); } > Does he means after fork(2), the parent continue to run? Can such a program started via the /etc/rc.conf without a terminal attached? After fork(2) the parent continues to run, effectively the parent and the child run. What normally happens in a shell is that when you use "&" to put a command in background the shell do not waits and continue running on its own life. > Btw, I got in to this problem by trying to use DJB's daemontools to supervise my server running on FreeBSD. But it creates zombie processes and spawn quite fast. In my daemons, after fork(2), parent returns. I don't have any idea what you are doing, since it is not clear what your daemons are doing.... Luca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 15:30:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E893F197 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ea0-x22d.google.com (mail-ea0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 801D314C4 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id o10so386020eaj.4 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:30:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=B7oPG7pVQWsr/HipTIaFeiGhGY5aHlZtm/N5aW79Bds=; b=PByTr7eAi/2sylputUMemvWDtWk+I5xr5NfjxjQSZy0Ig39mqM4fZ40SC02+B85RWN 3/M9Hjmo1vC5+8ajMPcFsL+5s635HJw76esRWP6NRBluLMPQeKHGoEMzwb/GJIVYQaE+ 2eE+v7tDNU5iPekDOketkxDBE10J3wxOU9NSUdwQUbclwdvmOK91iHGxYANQYSu6u0sz lAHHH93N77mS92v9anBStiZksF/JRfrAwbWkWUI5LIswjbUKZia1zCL6F3XWYNgM/r7r 3SMT0y4t45AujWw4WWU5hCE6IqWJD8WIwCHr/U4c5dJdwfYJMrEIQEtoFnoCe2Dn6HSE 7Vog== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.15.83.8 with SMTP id b8mr77403421eez.6.1386257426857; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.199 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 07:30:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:30:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: do I have to compile a new kernel? or just add options somehow? From: "firmdog@gmail.com" To: Fleuriot Damien Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:30:29 -0000 So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot time for GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? Thanks! On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" wrote: > > > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the GENERIC > > kernel. > > > > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T options. > > > > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I have to > > compile a totally new kernel? > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: > device crypto > options IPSEC > options IPSEC_NAT_T > > to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release that > is). > > > Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel > > Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and reboot. > > It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , even if > you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) > > > > > Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the > included options and devices at: > /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC > or > /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > > You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was built > with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 15:36:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 322D53E9 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from m.mdvmx.mailserve.net (m.mdvmx.mailserve.net [208.96.12.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB011514 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from e.one.gosocius.in (e.one.gosocius.in [69.59.168.68]) by m.mdvmx.mailserve.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C8760C4A for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:10:39 +0530 (IST) Received: from g.one.gosocius.in (g.one.gosocius.in [69.59.168.70]) by e.one.gosocius.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E015962F for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:36:07 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (mdreg-mst.qlc.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by g.one.gosocius.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8914EB2050 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:36:07 +0530 (IST) From: "Bhumika" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Imapct Person of The Year 2013: LIVE on 6th December, 2013; 6:00 PM (IST) onwards. 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From: Fleuriot Damien In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:57:25 +0100 Message-Id: References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> To: "firmdog@gmail.com" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:57:29 -0000 Oh but you can load modules at boot time for GENERIC just fine. While there is a "crypto" module nested under = /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ , I'm not familiar enough with it to say = whether it incorporates both the device and the IPSEC options you're = interested in. You're better off rebuilding GENERIC, or your own kernel, IMHO. If you're curious, you can always run : kldload crypto If kldload says the module doesn't exist (I think it should, for = GENERIC), you'll need to build it: cd /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ && make && make install Here's little me trying to load it under a brand new 8.4 box: # kldload /boot/kernel/crypto.ko kldload: can't load /boot/kernel/crypto.ko: Exec format error If you run into this error like me, "dmesg" will provide you with a = clue, as it does in my case: KLD crypto.ko: depends on zlib - not available or version mismatch linker_load_file: Unsupported file type I really encourage you to rebuild your own kernel, stripped of all the = stuff you don't want/need (ISA NICs, wifi, firewire, floppy = controller... ) Warren Block has written pretty cool articles, here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html I hope that helps, On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:30 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 > So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot time = for GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >=20 > On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 > > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the = GENERIC > > kernel. > > > > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T options. > > > > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I = have to > > compile a totally new kernel? > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 > While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: > device crypto > options IPSEC > options IPSEC_NAT_T >=20 > to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release = that is). >=20 >=20 > Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel >=20 > Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and = reboot. >=20 > It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , even = if you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the = included options and devices at: > /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC > or > /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >=20 > You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was = built with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 16:42:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C9E54DB for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 459E819C9 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Voc0T-0006mH-0E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:42:29 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:42:28 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:42:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> < CAKoxK+61HZPLR_xM7BC12dHc3y4eHPDCEvsRC8oQ_Jm1wUovnQ@mail.gmail.com> < 1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> < CAGwOe2ZPwAV2oxRs3CdKNnxoNPLhOD_2uJcf_RzgiEM7kenzwg@mail.gmail.com> < 57cd35243ed489e9f5870195edfe97e7@mhoenicka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:42:32 -0000 On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:10:39 +0100, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > On 2013-12-05 15:41, Fernando Apesteguía was heard to say: >> But porting something that shows no interest in supporting >> anything but Linux is both difficult and tiring. > > And it may not be worth the effort unless there is sufficient pressure > from FreeBSD users who request Gnome 3. I've tested Gnome 3 briefly on a > Linux box, and since then I understand very well why there is no such > pressure. I was back to Xfce in no time. > Ditto - except LXDE here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 16:48:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D952469F for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-x230.google.com (mail-ee0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c00::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64E4F19FB for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f48.google.com with SMTP id e49so3426885eek.21 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:48:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ah6E9j10tS7wYLhmlTS1Gt5SnRRZup7yl6CpjJpEDK4=; b=e02dT05zK7BvtPqyfeGT1Hg+ZeWNsVYTzj9apdJ9R4Ao4B269VXH23NUVi6MccMg17 Jo6ZHsLP7NefA5SsBFGgB1QEIamSaqLgvZpKZQOy7N6saHGyetycF1i2ivQbORnFh0Dg fgRCmygzcwLLOmlQFj3FHRv/vt8qUf2gZ1/Y6aZ3HNG5rYpxsOJLny6iTGReG6q3XHSs TArw7pu2QnfZvLErwWXiDqdXdi2qTqZPd+Lf14MBsDf/Jyz76xg5c/DCw9Q8qTNE1uHY bFPVgcdCios87HRZ0C7WsZQfNKzesXouSHt+A9veJfzPCYS+L6Ec2auC9HD/zXMbwake SRbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.15.34.197 with SMTP id e45mr13749466eev.61.1386262086654; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.210.199 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:48:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:48:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: do I have to compile a new kernel? or just add options somehow? From: "firmdog@gmail.com" To: Fleuriot Damien Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:48:09 -0000 Looks like it "might have" worked for me. First I added a couple of options to the GENERIC config: root@:~ # grep IPSEC /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC options IPSEC # IP security (requires device crypto) options IPSEC_NAT_T # NAT-T support, UDP encap of ESP Then rebooted: root@:~ # uname -a FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE #0 r251259: Mon Jun 3 01:14:28 UTC 2013 root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 root@:~ # kldload crypto root@:~ # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 5 0xc0400000 d5c4ec kernel 2 1 0xc58eb000 23000 crypto.ko 3 1 0xc58da000 a000 zlib.ko The reason I am doing this is because a new Cisco VPN router will not work with my IPF Freebsd firewall. The IPF firewall blocks the UDP ipsec packets on port 4500. So now I need to see if doing the above exercise helps with IPF blocking IPsec traversal across NAT On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > Oh but you can load modules at boot time for GENERIC just fine. > > While there is a "crypto" module nested under /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ > , I'm not familiar enough with it to say whether it incorporates both the > device and the IPSEC options you're interested in. > > You're better off rebuilding GENERIC, or your own kernel, IMHO. > > > > If you're curious, you can always run : > kldload crypto > > If kldload says the module doesn't exist (I think it should, for GENERIC), > you'll need to build it: > cd /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ && make && make install > > > > Here's little me trying to load it under a brand new 8.4 box: > > # kldload /boot/kernel/crypto.ko > kldload: can't load /boot/kernel/crypto.ko: Exec format error > > > If you run into this error like me, "dmesg" will provide you with a clue, > as it does in my case: > KLD crypto.ko: depends on zlib - not available or version mismatch > linker_load_file: Unsupported file type > > > > I really encourage you to rebuild your own kernel, stripped of all the > stuff you don't want/need (ISA NICs, wifi, firewire, floppy controller... ) > > > Warren Block has written pretty cool articles, here: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html > > > > > I hope that helps, > > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:30 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" wrote: > > > So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot time for > GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? > > Thanks! > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > >> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" >> wrote: >> >> > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the GENERIC >> > kernel. >> > >> > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T options. >> > >> > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I have >> to >> > compile a totally new kernel? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: >> device crypto >> options IPSEC >> options IPSEC_NAT_T >> >> to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release that >> is). >> >> >> Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel >> >> Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and >> reboot. >> >> It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , even if >> you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) >> >> >> >> >> Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the >> included options and devices at: >> /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC >> or >> /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >> >> You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was built >> with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. >> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 16:49:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36E9C74C for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C92251A15 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB5GnThf095819; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:49:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <52A0AEAA.8030503@sentex.net> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 11:49:46 -0500 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Subject: Re: PPPoE help References: <529FA253.2000900@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:49:32 -0000 Thanks Chris, I setup a little script to monitor it out of syslog. But one thing I noticed which is odd, is that I cant start it up from a script that is called from syslog ?! *.* | /usr/local/bin/logwatch.sh read LINE BROKENPPPOE=`echo "$LINE" |grep "IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial."` if [ "$BROKENPPPOE" ] then pkill -9 -f pppoe sleep 3 pkill -9 -f pppoe sleep 6 id | /usr/bin/logger /usr/sbin/ppp -ddial pppoe & ppp starts up, but its never actually able to connect when it starts from here for some reason ?! ---Mike On 12/4/2013 6:23 PM, Chris wrote: > I have a workaround that I've been using for a long time which works great for me and some clients who can only connect with PPPoE > > It can be found here; > > http://logicsquad.net/freebsd/pingmonitor-how-to.html > > You don't have to reinvent your own solution. It would be great if ppp would reset when the connection gets "jammed" > > > Chris > chris@lrckinfo.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- > 514.884.8185 > 320, rue de la Fenaison > Varennes, Qubec, J3X 2H2 > --------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.lrckinfo.com > > > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> Googling around this problem occasionally comes up, but I have yet to >> find a definitive answer. An ISP is changing out their LACs and when >> they are doing a hot cut, this sometimes messes up the pppoe ppp process >> so it gets stuck in a loop and never recovers. Killing off the ppp >> process and restarts it works and all is fixed. >> >> But this still on rare occasion will come up. Does anyone know the >> cause or work around ? I did manage to catch one and up the debug logs. >> >> None debug looks like >> >> Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(10) >> state = Initial >> Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 >> Nov 26 15:30:01 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. >> Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(11) >> state = Initial >> Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 >> Nov 26 15:30:03 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. >> Nov 26 15:30:04 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: LCP: deflink: >> RecvEchoRequest(174) state = Opened >> Nov 26 15:30:04 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: LCP: deflink: SendEchoReply(174) >> state = Opened >> Nov 26 15:30:05 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(12) >> state = Initial >> >> >> Config is simple >> >> >> pppoe: >> add 10.6.153.2 HISADDR >> add default HISADDR >> set device PPPoE:vr0 >> set server /var/run/spdsl-internet "" 0177 >> set speed sync >> enable echo >> disable ipv6cp >> disable vjcomp >> set cd 15 >> set dial >> set login >> set timeout 0 >> set lqrperiod 10 >> set authname s0332@realm >> set authkey xxxxxxxx >> set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 >> >> With debugging >> >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: read >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: 80 21 01 97 00 0a 03 >> 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: >> read 12/2048 from 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: Read >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: 80 21 01 97 00 0a 03 06 43 >> 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: proto_LayerPull: unknown >> -> 0x8021 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: link_PullPacket: Despatch >> proto 0x8021 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(151) >> state = Initial >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 >> Nov 26 16:53:20 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt >> /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns -1 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- Begin of Timer >> Service List--- >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: physical throughput >> timer[0x28411068]: freq = 1.00s, next = 0.00s, state = running >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: lqm timer[0x28413df4]: >> freq = 10.00s, next = 2.40s, state = running >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: hdlc timer[0x28413db0]: >> freq = 60.00s, next = 52.40s, state = running >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- End of Timer Service >> List --- >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: timer_Start: Inserting >> physical throughput timer[0x28411068] before lqm timer[0x28413df4], >> delta = 10 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 >> Nov 26 16:53:21 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt >> /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns -1 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- Begin of Timer >> Service List--- >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: physical throughput >> timer[0x28411068]: freq = 1.00s, next = 0.00s, state = running >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: lqm timer[0x28413df4]: >> freq = 10.00s, next = 1.40s, state = running >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: hdlc timer[0x28413db0]: >> freq = 60.00s, next = 51.40s, state = running >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: ---- End of Timer Service >> List --- >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: timer_Start: Inserting >> physical throughput timer[0x28411068] before lqm timer[0x28413df4], >> delta = 10 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(r) 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink: fdset(e) 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: server: fdset(r) 9 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: prompt >> /var/run/spdsl-internet: fdset(r) 2 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: Select returns 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: read >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Physical: 80 21 01 98 00 0a 03 >> 06 43 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: >> read 12/2048 from 1 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: Read >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Sync: 80 21 01 98 00 0a 03 06 43 >> 2b 80 0e .!......C+.. >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: proto_LayerPull: unknown >> -> 0x8021 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Debug: link_PullPacket: Despatch >> proto 0x8021 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(152) >> state = Initial >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: IPADDR[6] xx.yy.128.14 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: tun: fdset(r) 6 >> Nov 26 16:53:22 s0332 ppp[1620]: tun1: Timer: deflink(ctrl): fdset(r) 0 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------- >> Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 >> Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net >> Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net >> Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net 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From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:11:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> < CAKoxK+61HZPLR_xM7BC12dHc3y4eHPDCEvsRC8oQ_Jm1wUovnQ@mail.gmail.com> < 1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> < CAGwOe2ZPwAV2oxRs3CdKNnxoNPLhOD_2uJcf_RzgiEM7kenzwg@mail.gmail.com> < 57cd35243ed489e9f5870195edfe97e7@mhoenicka.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:11:15 -0000 On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:42 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:10:39 +0100, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >=20 > > On 2013-12-05 15:41, Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa was heard to say: > >> But porting something that shows no interest in supporting > >> anything but Linux is both difficult and tiring. > >=20 > > And it may not be worth the effort unless there is sufficient pressure > > from FreeBSD users who request Gnome 3. I've tested Gnome 3 briefly on = a > > Linux box, and since then I understand very well why there is no such > > pressure. I was back to Xfce in no time. > >=20 > Ditto - except LXDE here. On Linux there are tendencies to get rid of GTK. You might have heard that Razor-Qt and LXDE folks are working on LXDE-Qt. I still stay with Xfce, but even try to get rid of it, to switch away from as much GTK dependent software as possible. As a Linux user I don't have the impression that GNOME upstream is interested in anything, just a subjective impression. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 18:18:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5887248F for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D45091146 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id en1so77307wid.3 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:18:43 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=BiLBOHlnjgZ4PFhV2OKQDYX/h0+dkYJOP71nWEI7Lkc=; b=Sh9wYmFNBTCOc3e4fsICz3v4ZMlOLy7iD4PQZxBaSBoPYiVim6aReaugRJOUZCkNtQ f908RAxerBAIrUN+oo3KQ6dzx9izWddO+UdgSCLDJACRW9Dy+zjP2+AyCZJ3hyqGvY5r v2K6TLh0fEF7inqzfdDXWM9r4HuIGab/hVtzxrxGvW3amQOZVKLfPjCmiSDdoPN3kA1i nnXC7W2tiGrgwz/c2r1YKJOOZ+XRVw/CnUY84D5RMq+tJAGZ5IC1qu9ES4ZV41NnSTZy 72vh8WpheiDDZdz5tOb+F5lqZ3o7UzCZmiMpCDk9I0e3XR13bHC8LLzvYkE/Bp5YN/FV 19yA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnThIk4nIYNqzXwTUOszfp48Um1wt6WFMID22nOujn14fMw/w2ZXu0VgVtdCWx3qZVKnxW7 X-Received: by 10.180.108.42 with SMTP id hh10mr13075876wib.15.1386263640692; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot.paris.hi-media-techno.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w20sm8059078wia.5.2013.12.05.09.13.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:13:59 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: do I have to compile a new kernel? or just add options somehow? From: Fleuriot Damien In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:13:58 +0100 Message-Id: References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> To: "firmdog@gmail.com" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:18:51 -0000 Merely adding the options and rebooting is not sufficient to get the = options from your kernel as opposed to a module. You need to actually recompile the kernel, I hope you did that. On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 > Looks like it "might have" worked for me. First I added a couple of = options to the GENERIC config: >=20 > root@:~ # grep IPSEC /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > options IPSEC # IP security (requires device crypto) > options IPSEC_NAT_T # NAT-T support, UDP encap of ESP >=20 > Then rebooted: >=20 > root@:~ # uname -a > FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE #0 r251259: Mon Jun 3 = 01:14:28 UTC 2013 = root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >=20 > root@:~ # kldload crypto > root@:~ # kldstat=20 > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 5 0xc0400000 d5c4ec kernel > 2 1 0xc58eb000 23000 crypto.ko > 3 1 0xc58da000 a000 zlib.ko >=20 >=20 > The reason I am doing this is because a new Cisco VPN router will not = work with my IPF Freebsd firewall. The IPF firewall blocks the UDP ipsec = packets on port 4500. So now I need to see if doing the above exercise = helps with IPF blocking IPsec traversal across NAT >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > Oh but you can load modules at boot time for GENERIC just fine. >=20 > While there is a "crypto" module nested under = /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ , I'm not familiar enough with it to say = whether it incorporates both the device and the IPSEC options you're = interested in. >=20 > You're better off rebuilding GENERIC, or your own kernel, IMHO. >=20 >=20 >=20 > If you're curious, you can always run : > kldload crypto >=20 > If kldload says the module doesn't exist (I think it should, for = GENERIC), you'll need to build it: > cd /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ && make && make install >=20 >=20 >=20 > Here's little me trying to load it under a brand new 8.4 box: >=20 > # kldload /boot/kernel/crypto.ko > kldload: can't load /boot/kernel/crypto.ko: Exec format error >=20 >=20 > If you run into this error like me, "dmesg" will provide you with a = clue, as it does in my case: > KLD crypto.ko: depends on zlib - not available or version mismatch > linker_load_file: Unsupported file type >=20 >=20 >=20 > I really encourage you to rebuild your own kernel, stripped of all the = stuff you don't want/need (ISA NICs, wifi, firewire, floppy = controller... ) >=20 >=20 > Warren Block has written pretty cool articles, here: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I hope that helps, >=20 >=20 > On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:30 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot time = for GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? >>=20 >> Thanks! >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >>=20 >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >>=20 >> > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the = GENERIC >> > kernel. >> > >> > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T = options. >> > >> > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I = have to >> > compile a totally new kernel? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >>=20 >> While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: >> device crypto >> options IPSEC >> options IPSEC_NAT_T >>=20 >> to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release = that is). >>=20 >>=20 >> Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel >>=20 >> Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and = reboot. >>=20 >> It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , even = if you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the = included options and devices at: >> /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC >> or >> /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >>=20 >> You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was = built with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 18:37:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6E48AD4 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forward11.mail.yandex.net (forward11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83D2F1251 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (smtp12.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.191]) by forward11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 0FD7AE820CF for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:37:01 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp12.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id E41C416A0796 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:37:01 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 46.38.32.182.tel.ru (46.38.32.182.tel.ru [46.38.32.182]) by smtp12.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id esrhbnBKu6-b17WRZ4R; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:37:01 +0400 (using TLSv1 with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client certificate not present) Message-ID: <52A0C7CD.80902@passap.ru> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 22:37:01 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov Organization: =?UTF-8?B?0JfQkNCeICLQktCQ0KDQoiI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130806 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: do I have to compile a new kernel? or just add options somehow? References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:37:10 -0000 05.12.2013 20:48, firmdog@gmail.com пишет: > First I added a couple of options to the GENERIC config: Please read The FreeBSD Handbook, particularly Chapter 9: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Hints: 1. Are you sure you _need_ to build a new kernel? (/boot/loader.conf may load needed modules) 2. If the answer is "yes" for the first question do _not_ edit GENERIC configuretion file. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 19:30:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 449FCBAD for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0793C15A3 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEC2F3CF95; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:30:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB5JTpTl002027; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:29:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:29:51 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: how to save a web video? Message-Id: <20131205202951.0c29be76.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> References: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:30:15 -0000 On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:35:14 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > anybody how howto save a video stream from the web? > they come/go too quickly for my taste! You can use the port "youtube-dl" can be used, primarily for YouTube, but also works for others. For those that don't work with it, use "get_flash_videos", a very versatile perl script. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 19:34:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85729EC2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 481E41614 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFF3A3CF77; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:34:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB5JYGTK002053; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:34:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:34:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: how to save a web video? Message-Id: <20131205203416.179eefc7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131205033517.GA10906@ethic.thought.org> References: <20131205003514.GA8176@ethic.thought.org> <20131205033517.GA10906@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:34:33 -0000 On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:35:17 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > I'm wearing out, but the > one thing I want to contribute before I hang up my spurs--er, > keyboard--is a non-GUI port that, after the user inputs, will > go out and get webcasts in mp3, and store somewhere. so the ' > user will have several audio file to listen to << whenever >>. This is something youtube-dl can do when the webcast is available in a compatible format. After the download, ffmpeg or mencoder can be used for the format conversion (if the original format isn't already something like MP3). If the source is already "only audio", you can use mplayer to "watch" (i. e. download) it. Use the -dumpstream option to store it on disk. Similarly, mencoder can be used, even converting the media, if not MP3, to MP3 or OGG/Vorbis, or which format is prefered. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From: "firmdog@gmail.com" To: Fleuriot Damien Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 20:41:28 -0000 I ran #kldload crypto. Did you see that? Then I ran kldstat and it shows the module loaded. Why do I have to recompile the kernel if I can run kldload or use loader.conf to load the module at boot time? On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > Merely adding the options and rebooting is not sufficient to get the > options from your kernel as opposed to a module. > > You need to actually recompile the kernel, I hope you did that. > > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" wrote: > > > Looks like it "might have" worked for me. First I added a couple of > options to the GENERIC config: > > root@:~ # grep IPSEC /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > options IPSEC # IP security (requires device crypto) > options IPSEC_NAT_T # NAT-T support, UDP encap of ESP > > Then rebooted: > > root@:~ # uname -a > FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE #0 r251259: Mon Jun 3 01:14:28 > UTC 2013 root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > root@:~ # kldload crypto > root@:~ # kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 5 0xc0400000 d5c4ec kernel > 2 1 0xc58eb000 23000 crypto.ko > 3 1 0xc58da000 a000 zlib.ko > > > The reason I am doing this is because a new Cisco VPN router will not work > with my IPF Freebsd firewall. The IPF firewall blocks the UDP ipsec packets > on port 4500. So now I need to see if doing the above exercise helps with > IPF blocking IPsec traversal across NAT > > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > >> Oh but you can load modules at boot time for GENERIC just fine. >> >> While there is a "crypto" module nested under >> /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ , I'm not familiar enough with it to say >> whether it incorporates both the device and the IPSEC options you're >> interested in. >> >> You're better off rebuilding GENERIC, or your own kernel, IMHO. >> >> >> >> If you're curious, you can always run : >> kldload crypto >> >> If kldload says the module doesn't exist (I think it should, for >> GENERIC), you'll need to build it: >> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ && make && make install >> >> >> >> Here's little me trying to load it under a brand new 8.4 box: >> >> # kldload /boot/kernel/crypto.ko >> kldload: can't load /boot/kernel/crypto.ko: Exec format error >> >> >> If you run into this error like me, "dmesg" will provide you with a clue, >> as it does in my case: >> KLD crypto.ko: depends on zlib - not available or version mismatch >> linker_load_file: Unsupported file type >> >> >> >> I really encourage you to rebuild your own kernel, stripped of all the >> stuff you don't want/need (ISA NICs, wifi, firewire, floppy controller... ) >> >> >> Warren Block has written pretty cool articles, here: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html >> >> >> >> >> I hope that helps, >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:30 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" >> wrote: >> >> >> So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot time for >> GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >> >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" >>> wrote: >>> >>> > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the GENERIC >>> > kernel. >>> > >>> > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T options. >>> > >>> > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I have >>> to >>> > compile a totally new kernel? >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: >>> device crypto >>> options IPSEC >>> options IPSEC_NAT_T >>> >>> to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release that >>> is). >>> >>> >>> Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel >>> >>> Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and >>> reboot. >>> >>> It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , even if >>> you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the >>> included options and devices at: >>> /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC >>> or >>> /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >>> >>> You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was >>> built with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. >>> >>> >> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 5 20:57:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45642EBE for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from langhans.com.pl (host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl [194.126.238.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BEB1AFE for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by langhans.com.pl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3AE6557B0FD0; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 21:50:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 21:50:10 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: re. how to save a web video? Message-ID: <20131205205010.GA11418@manul.langhans.com.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 20:57:44 -0000 hi guys, anybody how howto save a video stream from the web? they come/go too quickly for my taste! For the case you use Firefox - there are plugins you can save the stream of a video. -- herb langhans From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 02:14:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63CD2A77 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 02:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x248.google.com (mail-ob0-x248.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F1361F74 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 02:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f200.google.com with SMTP id wm4so259379obc.11 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:14:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror, gpart and MBR vs GPT in the Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 07:36:50 -0000 On 12/2/2013 at 2:21 PM Warren Block wrote: |On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Mike. wrote: | |> My understanding is that MBR can be used with drives only up to |> and including 2TB in size. So if I use MBR, the maximum drive |> size I could use would be 2TB. Is that correct? | |As far as I recall, MBR expects 512-byte blocks and uses 32-bit values. |The total number works out to 2TB (2^32*512). | |Just recently, someone in the forums had an external drive, MBR format, |but 4K blocks. There were problems, although I don't know if FreeBSD |was at fault. | |I have not tried MBR on a drive larger than 2TB. I suspect it would be |safe to use the first 2TB and ignore the rest, but that really ought to |be verified. ============= Bringing some closure to this thread.... *** gmirror is working fine for me *** As I type this, all my data has been transitioned, and I am listening to tunes originating from the gmirror raid array. Music is flowing. Life is good here. :) Many thanks for the help and assistance provided by all those who responded and jumped in to help. Mike. 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From: Luca Ferrari To: iijima yoshino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:13:29 -0000 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > Even the OpenBSD team accepts the Gnome3 ... > It seems the FreeBSD towards to a server-oriented way. > Why server oriented, just because gnome3 is not supported? Gnome3 is only _a_ desktop among the others. So who is making FreeBSD more "towards a server", FreeBSD itself or Gnome 3 that refuses to adopt other non-linux facilities? If other unixes have gnome3 it simply means they have manpower and interest to port it. Not being a gnome3 user (actually, a gnome user at all), I don't care about porting a desktop that is not interested in being portable. Luca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 08:44:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1BD57ED for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fallback1.mail.ru (fallback1.mail.ru [94.100.176.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556D518BA for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp41.i.mail.ru (smtp41.i.mail.ru [94.100.177.101]) by fallback1.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id E71E0304FC04 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:43:24 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail2; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:Date; bh=cvi8MeRQxphuZCxcGjEac3xD+59Ssld62GmpVZmuNMk=; b=t2T0KjKY6s9Dum1jWCvcJsdFqg0P1mrvN1k/wNpYi7FW1Xj52y0hYQDJY8V7RLrg4osTbBd6aeoUij78+AXaeCetcE4vQyKfM5RuA2ByWmloaFTlkJHZWNZ7bgJcp9zIjBXHzYsFVFg+75kwvnVHP8k5Zd6BauwwXh+Fn1FRfac=; Received: from [85.172.13.154] (port=1057 helo=OIID-2) by smtp41.i.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1Vor0D-0007E3-QS for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:43:17 +0400 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:41:01 +0400 From: =?windows-1251?B?z+Xw5eTl8OjpINHl8OPl6Q==?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1332992557.20131206124101@mail.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Iv got a problem that i cannot resolve (FreeBSD 9.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?z+Xw5eTl8OjpINHl8OPl6Q==?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:44:57 -0000 Hello. The problem happens when i install ant port (for example cd /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp42-server/ make install clean) also problem appear when i do portsnap fetch update And problem is FreeBSD rebots during installation. Please help me resolve this problem. Yhank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 09:49:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74F1A980 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F56E1E3F for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670AC5E4A4 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:37:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.964 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.964 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.034, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id N+RTl+6ttzsz for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:37:42 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c224-156-70-80.bjare.net [80.70.156.224]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C625E265 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:37:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52A19ADB.90704@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:37:31 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PySolitaire crashes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:49:56 -0000 Since the update of devel/py-distribute I've got a problem. I did follow the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING but the program does this pysolfc Segmentation fault (core dumped) I'm considering rebuilding pysolfc and all of it's dependencies with portmaster but I'm in doubt on which switch to use. The -r switch as I read it works the other way round. So how do I get the rebuild I want? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 10:02:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C7ED269 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B1411F43 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A208E27727; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:56:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB69tqk1001956; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:55:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:55:52 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Luca Ferrari Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? Message-Id: <20131206105552.c5dcbf28.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions , iijima yoshino X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:02:06 -0000 On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:13:26 +0100, Luca Ferrari wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > > > Even the OpenBSD team accepts the Gnome3 ... > > It seems the FreeBSD towards to a server-oriented way. > > > > Why server oriented, just because gnome3 is not supported? I agree with your statement. FreeBSD has been and still is a multi-purpose operating system, unlike some Linux distrubutions that _could_ be used on a server, but are heavily tailored, preinstalled and preconfigured for desktop use, and maybe even a specific desktop use case (like multimedia, pentest, office). Personally, I'm quite happy that I can use the same OS on my home desktop and on my gaming PC as I use it on my servers. :-) > Gnome3 is > only _a_ desktop among the others. So who is making FreeBSD more > "towards a server", FreeBSD itself or Gnome 3 that refuses to adopt > other non-linux facilities? This can be considered a problem, but I think it's simply a decision (that has been made) followed by its consequences. FreeBSD is not Linux. If the developers of a specific piece of software, like the Gnome 3 environment, decide to rely on what currently _only_ Linux can provide, it's fine. When they continue to extend this approach, say, only support a specific set of Linux distributions, for example "Debian-derived ones", it's also fine. It will have its implications, but that's nothing bad or wrong per se. > If other unixes have gnome3 it simply means they have manpower and > interest to port it. Not being a gnome3 user (actually, a gnome user > at all), I don't care about porting a desktop that is not interested > in being portable. As you said, it's _possible_ to make Gnome 3 run on FreeBSD, but it will probably a hard task. The Linux world is in continuous movement and development, new features ride - and decline - nearly every month. Take HAL as an example, and see it in this context: FreeBSD's desktop environments like KDE and Gnome have been able to perform auto-mounting of removable media for decades, relying on portable system services. Then HAL came along and finally became mandatory. As far as I know, it's already deprecated in Linux, but FreeBSD still has it in its ports collection, making things work that didn't need it before. Whenever something finally works, it will be replaced by something nonportable and experimental. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 10:54:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BCE21E3 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (mail-wg0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A20D11D9 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 10:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id y10so468488wgg.24 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:53:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=fTA4uQFoAwRVhrF6JGa1Pnn/YYrhJXOgt+h3ncT/wTs=; b=j9NjK3UGUbyZkWYAml9owvw02n71K/Tl4A2xzU8wtrRyq3b9cv/QCprphU2yj72H7W xhDw5o/+wPaNlrs0lsr7ZJuo/rJBurpa/q8GFyb4+gll/dvlrgbX+ruiBMeS73vd9gLq AETN8bGr7rKEfQUQPut90G63BW6O/xYRTuj81V2footIPO6ej6ww0kspGfX4WgUHobZE uGoDSOdvpa4RK1+F0yfuqAeyppURzh8OcKseoZ1WPEbFnY+68xjNy2/o5UUk+Pqm42I1 CsZTiiHcdalf7ai+H6XfJP58zqCCg8cQsEF1CTxNoFgbkq7mvdPrbU2sbo548SqQi88W /+iA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQljIU+zOSWdePfxPUcI20VAhwJ/yTqdjJ8eA+DfgbBQswcvHwrVi5WpXj4XycPI1TvTjXOK X-Received: by 10.180.206.41 with SMTP id ll9mr1802237wic.7.1386326813816; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot.paris.hi-media-techno.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s20sm5067577wib.1.2013.12.06.02.46.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:46:53 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: do I have to compile a new kernel? or just add options somehow? From: Fleuriot Damien In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:46:51 +0100 Message-Id: <9909F4F0-623F-46F1-BD21-B3D2D9E4653A@my.gd> References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> To: "firmdog@gmail.com" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:54:03 -0000 As I said earlier, you might not need to rebuild it, but I can't say if = IPsec Nat Traversal is enabled in the module. On Dec 5, 2013, at 9:41 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 > I ran #kldload crypto. Did you see that? Then I ran kldstat and it = shows the module loaded. >=20 > Why do I have to recompile the kernel if I can run kldload or use = loader.conf to load the module at boot time? >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > Merely adding the options and rebooting is not sufficient to get the = options from your kernel as opposed to a module. >=20 > You need to actually recompile the kernel, I hope you did that. >=20 >=20 > On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Looks like it "might have" worked for me. First I added a couple of = options to the GENERIC config: >>=20 >> root@:~ # grep IPSEC /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >> options IPSEC # IP security (requires device = crypto) >> options IPSEC_NAT_T # NAT-T support, UDP encap of ESP >>=20 >> Then rebooted: >>=20 >> root@:~ # uname -a >> FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE #0 r251259: Mon Jun 3 = 01:14:28 UTC 2013 = root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>=20 >> root@:~ # kldload crypto >> root@:~ # kldstat=20 >> Id Refs Address Size Name >> 1 5 0xc0400000 d5c4ec kernel >> 2 1 0xc58eb000 23000 crypto.ko >> 3 1 0xc58da000 a000 zlib.ko >>=20 >>=20 >> The reason I am doing this is because a new Cisco VPN router will not = work with my IPF Freebsd firewall. The IPF firewall blocks the UDP ipsec = packets on port 4500. So now I need to see if doing the above exercise = helps with IPF blocking IPsec traversal across NAT >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >> Oh but you can load modules at boot time for GENERIC just fine. >>=20 >> While there is a "crypto" module nested under = /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ , I'm not familiar enough with it to say = whether it incorporates both the device and the IPSEC options you're = interested in. >>=20 >> You're better off rebuilding GENERIC, or your own kernel, IMHO. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> If you're curious, you can always run : >> kldload crypto >>=20 >> If kldload says the module doesn't exist (I think it should, for = GENERIC), you'll need to build it: >> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ && make && make install >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Here's little me trying to load it under a brand new 8.4 box: >>=20 >> # kldload /boot/kernel/crypto.ko >> kldload: can't load /boot/kernel/crypto.ko: Exec format error >>=20 >>=20 >> If you run into this error like me, "dmesg" will provide you with a = clue, as it does in my case: >> KLD crypto.ko: depends on zlib - not available or version mismatch >> linker_load_file: Unsupported file type >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I really encourage you to rebuild your own kernel, stripped of all = the stuff you don't want/need (ISA NICs, wifi, firewire, floppy = controller... ) >>=20 >>=20 >> Warren Block has written pretty cool articles, here: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I hope that helps, >>=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:30 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot time = for GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >>>=20 >>> > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the = GENERIC >>> > kernel. >>> > >>> > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T = options. >>> > >>> > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I = have to >>> > compile a totally new kernel? >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: >>> device crypto >>> options IPSEC >>> options IPSEC_NAT_T >>>=20 >>> to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release = that is). >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel >>>=20 >>> Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and = reboot. >>>=20 >>> It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , = even if you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the = included options and devices at: >>> /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC >>> or >>> /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >>>=20 >>> You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was = built with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 11:21:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 366A14DC for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x229.google.com (mail-pb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09160132F for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jt11so898266pbb.14 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:21:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IUmNVTEwrIp/dxYM7OD2AdqLf1oHUtBJNkXeZSfdAWk=; b=HSUkQvDQdIrOecPrTC2TTVLaQEd/x0rmXDfoUB5F+o4g3vgFDnXjelrTAUVcmAq1GN 9Q4yjzyWXdDBddhQ4Gk5hfsiUk4YTYHsXqPnV/TScppJR1JTH6nhTi+pQtdAfqkL5yot Tr8QBDHZosdubLCupEh/Kbl6kzkGlcrM6s3kgzFTHr4BXfN0ADn35KVcBzVM5dSbLmUB nKTQMQ6AB3QVDDrcFjCaq/ElPnIgrXyn+ihUMpdxHyrFw0feG8y7PAzaMfcCTy3htatG wYr5ZKJl8PbNvsgim5eB4rM+WZ/EGcYOBRdWoMRCGa2XUqwOmcDpC4Sy9y3nyMN+eDb4 ofIQ== X-Received: by 10.68.194.9 with SMTP id hs9mr3517577pbc.95.1386328865678; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [223.250.72.165] ([223.250.72.165]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oj6sm175786434pab.9.2013.12.06.03.21.03 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:21:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: iijima yoshino To: Luca Ferrari Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 19:20:55 +0800 In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:21:06 -0000 在 2013-12-06五的 09:13 +0100，Luca Ferrari写道： > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > > > Even the OpenBSD team accepts the Gnome3 ... > > It seems the FreeBSD towards to a server-oriented way. > > > > Why server oriented, just because gnome3 is not supported? Gnome3 is > only _a_ desktop among the others. So who is making FreeBSD more > "towards a server", FreeBSD itself or Gnome 3 that refuses to adopt > other non-linux facilities? > If other unixes have gnome3 it simply means they have manpower and > interest to port it. Not being a gnome3 user (actually, a gnome user > at all), I don't care about porting a desktop that is not interested > in being portable. > > Luca Oh, no , no. Just the FreeBSD team do less work on desktops than servers, would you agree? The users can decide their machines run like desktops or servers. By default, most distributions have a default DE after installation or on their live images. I think they should be regarded as desktop-oriented. On the other hand, it's O.K. to call FreeBSD server-oriented, right? Everything we talk about here is open source. About portability, it more means interest. I'm not a developer, but I just know if one have interest in doing something. And we could not request every developer to put the portability No.1 when they try to write something. If I consider about Linux/BSD, why don't Win/Mac/Solaries/Minix/Haiku/MenutOS... We do everything for ourselves, then the others. The coder writes the code. When another coder faces to the code, what could he/she do if not satisfied? Change and make it better, or just no interest. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 11:35:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D07AAA7C for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x232.google.com (mail-pd0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A612A13D5 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id y10so872965pdj.37 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:35:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QvkkUw2OaPf7Xo5MTnbaeLyxjVk5raJ1OLksNwn5/wQ=; b=j/WZgPwhVMfHkB+feTzYkpcxJQ1lrwgYoLWtKBsO1B/uo/OjfEDqzHSXyIFfczDzHv xB5cqjACQwErXdeLF+APmjkX6t47GacH9ltZZ8n7BBhmdVfSTeqDF8GkF7aUebGisUq1 5sqn3DyHvBe39WVu2kd23EdiCaDb02a94MXQYYup9ZuYTV2UDDUTz8CzCX3m6Cmuy7xc 5icZheIWWvvkLZqW3pMXnMTAiKUUrvALDgKXCFo15JRYePmBZJ7Cwhdxr/XoIPxZdunZ 8ri50wFlg8SjLRXHqnbdehnX5tlY562Cu6wx9VkG1XvrUmgUDiOmQbc0dP4inFZKnItn S1UA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.178.143 with SMTP id cy15mr3580584pac.105.1386329700134; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:35:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.191.6 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 03:35:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:35:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ILdogoSb_XaCDam46hNGdCap2mk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: CeDeROM To: iijima yoshino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions , Luca Ferrari X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:35:00 -0000 On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > agree? The users can decide their machines run like desktops or servers. > By default, most distributions have a default DE after installation or > on their live images. I think they should be regarded as > desktop-oriented. On the other hand, it's O.K. to call FreeBSD > server-oriented, right? I use FreeBSD on my desktops and servers with no problem for maaany years :-) Get the Xfce4 or KDE and it will be fine :-) FreeBSD does not force you to any configuration and/or setup, also it does not gets affected by strange politics as it can be seen in case of Gnome/Linux and this is the main reason why I use FreeBSD not other OS :-) Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 12:28:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C535D7E for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm21-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm21-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 629D01781 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.234] by nm21.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2013 12:28:30 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.67] by tm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2013 12:28:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2013 12:28:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1386332910; bh=Ty21oq0ThbTSxFPj6OSSVFVkaUbJ0obk14C1QvJJUms=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bOJbgLW+KOkvlN++SyoNwyoNcrlgkGuJ489+i4JwT4l8kyicy5ws9ZWI+JoiYoeNqFzGWd5YlKeSlOz6KHCOS1wYXvEi0pVHGRElJZJGBB6e0bYSa+VGJDdhC4w6zxuc9OyuVzPjoRpD9/9mpk0A9fZOjnBKhK8he6keFe6o5AI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 824146.83751.bm@smtp104.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: .UDTJs8VM1nE9O3a0rGYf1U3AeyOpWg0Wu6481gRAz4ii3L LL4Gl9nuH_F21ZLghGnN0QCCxnTF1uwW7AZL5lsjgCmKv6fmT0yYBcf1q1v3 c35vJZFZKb.UgiCEdu0VlIE8RIwGTzTa9_ER2wdmiTTmy7ySIuk8hA0Q2U7P qU1TBbmtbq64UEeoOSQawNGvLFzw3xLzm6kM3MBOSQT5hJtBluaeugY48_tj 4s2R5HLOPMSyO6fG_wYxcY_t7Jl4da5w0qcNf7IAxtUi4YlDdPIrNpBSnx2N hDqfbAKHcOT2.HPjBzdFQUCzXL_Gt7sGNNygZQhEAOr.at83gjCoQk0j9m6X KG8JNvaEPn28YEDqqI4ONDQt7_a4NzYOyrxZp2HvXnwVomE9Td8jVHrZ1Tf7 m7h6Q_uETvED9rfmV0SX9g1y39hVlFIkefuYjLZk.CHE2ZKQe0qgL4o4xpW7 K04IVt_2FPwunZwOE74_q4oIqTezIra4Jr.kT8wEQpSfrc6V3tBvHOg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR X-Rocket-Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@89.7.216.154 with ) by smtp104.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Dec 2013 12:28:30 +0000 UTC Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:28:33 +0100 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Iv got a problem that i cannot resolve (FreeBSD 9.2) Message-Id: <20131206132833.7c5f06a94f6aa1e131d1b95e@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <1332992557.20131206124101@mail.ru> References: <1332992557.20131206124101@mail.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:28:33 -0000 On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:41:01 +0400 Передерий Сергей wrote: > Hello. > The problem happens when i install ant port > (for example cd /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp42-server/ > make install clean) > also problem appear when i do > portsnap fetch update > > And problem is FreeBSD rebots during installation. Is it a laptop? An old pc? Does the fan work? Has it "dust inside"(tm)? It looks like you have a temperature problem. > Please help me resolve this problem. > Yhank you. 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You should suuply more information: What kind of hardware are you using? What _exact commands_ did you run and what was the _reply_ to those commands? Those error messages are important to avoid guessing. You can use the "script" command to create a good log and trim it to the relevant parts which you should send to the list. Surprising reboots can be hardware issues (unstable power, insufficient cooling, defective RAM and so on), but can also relate to file system defects (boot into single user mode and force a fsck on all involved partitions). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 12:34:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E213360 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFAAD1839 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3F13CD30; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:28:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB6CSe6V002478; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:28:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:28:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: CeDeROM Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? Message-Id: <20131206132840.ab266f16.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Luca Ferrari , freebsd-questions , iijima yoshino X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:34:34 -0000 On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:35:00 +0100, CeDeROM wrote: > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > > agree? The users can decide their machines run like desktops or servers. > > By default, most distributions have a default DE after installation or > > on their live images. I think they should be regarded as > > desktop-oriented. On the other hand, it's O.K. to call FreeBSD > > server-oriented, right? > > I use FreeBSD on my desktops and servers with no problem for maaany > years :-) I'm also using FreeBSD exclusively (!) on my desktop since version 4.0 without any problems. I could do what the "cool kids" could do before them, and even after they weren't able to do it anymore. If "FreeBSD is server-oriented", that would not have been possible. :-) I agree that FreeBSD is an _excellent_ operating system for servers, but it's not "for servers only". However, there are desktop environments and applications that can be a trouble to use, which primarily is because they aren't being developed for FreeBSD, and they are not portable enough to allow porting them as a "simple act". Still many software have arrived in FreeBSD from Linux, and even from Solaris, because their design did allow this. If a developer makes a decision of relying on a different design, something that is not available outside of a specific scope (in recent Gnome's case: Linux), and if this is the _intended_ move of the developers - it's _their_ choice. > Get the Xfce4 or KDE and it will be fine :-) PC-BSD is a good illustration for that concept: Preinstalled and preconfigured desktop environment on top, FreeBSD at the heart, still versatile and changeable. There are many ways to create a FreeBSD desktop. Maybe it's valid to say "There is no Gnome 3 desktop on FreeBSD" in the future, but that does not make FreeBSD more "server-oriented" or less "desktop-oriented". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 12:36:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 044C044B for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 904C3185E for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id q59so576887wes.38 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 04:36:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TEWEA5VQ1RDIXuF4g/olxDz03ePbNBEONDF+m6tajpA=; b=S7oAlYq8zHowikkWrgJ5YvQMHDCabJ4PLGegQUeqmMLy2TEp7QvkGdMSsAs3cdwnav +hjE0LaKgVK7DsLGhuOhH9l5PKVAmjvWxCYYGxZmNJCyBe2kq8FbripFVt0/mzy57EkK n9EC1B1cOGY29SEZuHvmhtXNkskJIBRc4brrdh5NIH1uY1ylt+zK1PBLNVyAkWonXJjj 4IGbd922eT3dSmn/QeTpc3Dmc3zos1G4Il2EMJkl/A44axQYq4RMZQ2ETtfTYPcBsKy/ eyM8J8uaR+LHQZsqSxPq1qvHCVmIJUj7IP4nNEWMiTbKn8t8CzvXYYjvOFmiuqOT8aFD lr2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.11.38 with SMTP id n6mr2830635wjb.25.1386333409943; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 04:36:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: fluca1978@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.44.6 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 04:36:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:36:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3V_SCbTqGMsJ1Cv-Av9lWbumhH0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: Luca Ferrari To: iijima yoshino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:36:52 -0000 On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > And we could not request every developer to > put the portability No.1 when they try to write something. If I consider > about Linux/BSD, why don't Win/Mac/Solaries/Minix/Haiku/MenutOS... We do > everything for ourselves, then the others. With regard to the specific question, gnome3, I believe we are not asking developers to keep portability as their number one issue. They simply have broken portability by themselves. Gnome was used as the main desktop on OpenSolaris, that is not Linux. But deciding to got for a Linux-tied subsystem they have deliberately chosen not to be portable. Is this right or wrong? I don't care, but we cannot ask FreeBSD (or any other OS) developers to port gnome3 when the gnome community itself has decided to break. Of course, is there is interest, someone will port. Luca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 12:55:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54E8794E for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x22e.google.com (mail-pb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25E5C1968 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id md12so1018073pbc.19 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 04:55:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0lNE4Ux2DKJfkap4h64Ff3zYjloAQ2dPHYgugCLziRQ=; b=B/xCW/sZaIqLxGfuRqC8VFGZ++g2NiNTqq7OU4L7dVrG8imChyDClrrw68W3EuoO+z hAL8KVTGaOJUo24em7PiYlAmCEFhfxDBW4FmuVpo8O4KAVQOzzH210yGdC7gBIHRL6Kp uvH1XikFtgz1KyMDVU5C85ofyu4tTicTMSkFrppAIVtw1wq2ZymktBWCO4+ifkiY36FQ JfD3YT93Ps22D9+zu+vwjn/KeBtSMKItPoSxIO6r0Nv7En06zw0jUwJ0HpXEHVXdTyWQ xxr1710t8FQofKav9dqFKQJiFRg1pIZGK21jVLl3olcKxskAgPN7a8yx5R2E2xhHVix3 Ql2Q== X-Received: by 10.66.190.198 with SMTP id gs6mr4035951pac.49.1386334509773; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 04:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [223.250.72.165] ([223.250.72.165]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qf7sm176499523pac.14.2013.12.06.04.55.06 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 04:55:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1386334496.4592.4.camel@debian> Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD doesn't have a Gnome3 port? From: iijima yoshino To: Polytropon Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 20:54:56 +0800 In-Reply-To: <20131206132840.ab266f16.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> <20131206132840.ab266f16.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions , Luca Ferrari , CeDeROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:55:10 -0000 在 2013-12-06五的 13:28 +0100，Polytropon写道： > There are many ways to create a FreeBSD desktop. Maybe it's > valid to say "There is no Gnome 3 desktop on FreeBSD" in the > future, but that does not make FreeBSD more "server-oriented" > or less "desktop-oriented". Yes, none of systems will be labeled as "server-oriented" because of gnome3 or something support less, but the status and attitude to the "desktop software" will. 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From: iijima yoshino To: Luca Ferrari Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 21:23:39 +0800 In-Reply-To: References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <1386328855.3871.38.camel@debian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:23:46 -0000 在 2013-12-06五的 13:36 +0100，Luca Ferrari写道： > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:20 PM, iijima yoshino wrote: > > And we could not request every developer to > > put the portability No.1 when they try to write something. If I consider > > about Linux/BSD, why don't Win/Mac/Solaries/Minix/Haiku/MenutOS... We do > > everything for ourselves, then the others. > > With regard to the specific question, gnome3, I believe we are not > asking developers to keep portability as their number one issue. They > simply have broken portability by themselves. Gnome was used as the > main desktop on OpenSolaris, that is not Linux. But deciding to got > for a Linux-tied subsystem they have deliberately chosen not to be > portable. Is this right or wrong? I don't care, but we cannot ask > FreeBSD (or any other OS) developers to port gnome3 when the gnome > community itself has decided to break. Of course, is there is > interest, someone will port. > > Luca Yeah,it's not a "right or wrong" problem, as "to be or not to be". OpenBSD 5.4 supports Gnome 3.8 and PCBSD 10 will take Gnome3/Cinnamon replacing Gnome2. In fact, the FreeBSD can do but not do, Why? Different philosophy? Bad compatibility? Dependencies conflict? No interest? Something else? Whatever the reason is, having an "evil" gnome3 port would never boom the machine. 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From: "firmdog@gmail.com" To: Fleuriot Damien Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:55:13 -0000 Is there a way to pass options to a module at boot time? That is the part that I can't understand. "crypto" is easy to load as a module or simply load at boot time with loader.conf .... But how to enable the options? (like IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T ) On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > As I said earlier, you might not need to rebuild it, but I can't say if > IPsec Nat Traversal is enabled in the module. > > > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 9:41 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" wrote: > > > I ran #kldload crypto. Did you see that? Then I ran kldstat and it > shows the module loaded. > > Why do I have to recompile the kernel if I can run kldload or use loader.conf > to load the module at boot time? > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > >> Merely adding the options and rebooting is not sufficient to get the >> options from your kernel as opposed to a module. >> >> You need to actually recompile the kernel, I hope you did that. >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" >> wrote: >> >> >> Looks like it "might have" worked for me. First I added a couple of >> options to the GENERIC config: >> >> root@:~ # grep IPSEC /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >> options IPSEC # IP security (requires device crypto) >> options IPSEC_NAT_T # NAT-T support, UDP encap of ESP >> >> Then rebooted: >> >> root@:~ # uname -a >> FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE #0 r251259: Mon Jun 3 01:14:28 >> UTC 2013 root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >> root@:~ # kldload crypto >> root@:~ # kldstat >> Id Refs Address Size Name >> 1 5 0xc0400000 d5c4ec kernel >> 2 1 0xc58eb000 23000 crypto.ko >> 3 1 0xc58da000 a000 zlib.ko >> >> >> The reason I am doing this is because a new Cisco VPN router will not >> work with my IPF Freebsd firewall. The IPF firewall blocks the UDP ipsec >> packets on port 4500. So now I need to see if doing the above exercise >> helps with IPF blocking IPsec traversal across NAT >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >> >>> Oh but you can load modules at boot time for GENERIC just fine. >>> >>> While there is a "crypto" module nested under >>> /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ , I'm not familiar enough with it to say >>> whether it incorporates both the device and the IPSEC options you're >>> interested in. >>> >>> You're better off rebuilding GENERIC, or your own kernel, IMHO. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you're curious, you can always run : >>> kldload crypto >>> >>> If kldload says the module doesn't exist (I think it should, for >>> GENERIC), you'll need to build it: >>> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ && make && make install >>> >>> >>> >>> Here's little me trying to load it under a brand new 8.4 box: >>> >>> # kldload /boot/kernel/crypto.ko >>> kldload: can't load /boot/kernel/crypto.ko: Exec format error >>> >>> >>> If you run into this error like me, "dmesg" will provide you with a >>> clue, as it does in my case: >>> KLD crypto.ko: depends on zlib - not available or version mismatch >>> linker_load_file: Unsupported file type >>> >>> >>> >>> I really encourage you to rebuild your own kernel, stripped of all the >>> stuff you don't want/need (ISA NICs, wifi, firewire, floppy controller... ) >>> >>> >>> Warren Block has written pretty cool articles, here: >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope that helps, >>> >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:30 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot time for >>> GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the GENERIC >>>> > kernel. >>>> > >>>> > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T options. >>>> > >>>> > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I >>>> have to >>>> > compile a totally new kernel? >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: >>>> device crypto >>>> options IPSEC >>>> options IPSEC_NAT_T >>>> >>>> to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release >>>> that is). >>>> >>>> >>>> Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel >>>> >>>> Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and >>>> reboot. >>>> >>>> It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , even >>>> if you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the >>>> included options and devices at: >>>> /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC >>>> or >>>> /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >>>> >>>> You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was >>>> built with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 14:15:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32CB41D1 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAFE71041 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8CC82731C for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 00:09:41 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <52A1DAA5.7020304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 00:09:41 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130530 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread9 crashed immediately after starting References: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 14:15:23 -0000 On 12/05/13 21:08, Jerry wrote: > System: FreeBSD 10.0-BETA3 #0 r257580 amd64 > > I have "acroread9" installed because I write and frequently need to fill > in online interactive PDF forms. > > I have Adobe Pro XI installed on a Windows 8.1 machine to create and > modify interactive PDFs. It is the only program that I am aware of that > can accomplish this. I was trying to to insure that the forms work > correctly under different OSs. Using Firefox and its built in PDF > program fails miserably. It cannot utilize the interactive properties of > the PDF. I installed acroread9, but it simply crashes a few seconds > after it starts. > > $ acroread9 > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig warning: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: saw unknown, expected number > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig warning: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: saw unknown, expected number > terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RSException' > > This is line 70: > This is line 78: > > From the /var/message log: > > Dec 5 05:45:33 scorpio kernel: linux: pid 31377 (acroread): syscall inotify_init not implemented > > Is this a known issue? If so, then why is the application in the ports > system if it will not run? If not, what do I have to do to get it to > run successfully? > Try ports@, or emulators@; but I did run this down about year or so ago (same symptoms) - although I don't remember the RSException - so check you're up to date. Also try ldd and see if it might be missing something else that wasn't missing last time. The inotify won't be an issue. That comes up with several applications, but is essentially harmless. 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But it creates zombie processes > and spawn quite fast. In my daemons, after fork(2), parent returns. > Our own /usr/sbin/daemon utility has the ability to supervise processes as well, but doesn't respawn processes at an insane rate like daemontools does. I've seen a coredumping process supervised by daemontools actually take a server down because of the CPU load.... our own daemon utility respawns it after waiting 1 second. 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From: Fleuriot Damien In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 17:02:03 +0100 Message-Id: <6442241B-5DA7-4F04-A382-F691EF2B120E@my.gd> References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> <9909F4F0-623F-46F1-BD21-B3D2D9E4653A@my.gd> To: "firmdog@gmail.com" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 16:02:08 -0000 I don't think you'll be able to pass options to the module at load time. man 4 crypto yields a tiny bit of info, but doesn't answer your = question. On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:55 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 > Is there a way to pass options to a module at boot time? That is the = part that I can't understand. >=20 > "crypto" is easy to load as a module or simply load at boot time with = loader.conf .... But how to enable the options? (like IPSEC and = IPSEC_NAT_T ) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: > As I said earlier, you might not need to rebuild it, but I can't say = if IPsec Nat Traversal is enabled in the module. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Dec 5, 2013, at 9:41 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> I ran #kldload crypto. Did you see that? Then I ran kldstat and it = shows the module loaded. >>=20 >> Why do I have to recompile the kernel if I can run kldload or use = loader.conf to load the module at boot time? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >> Merely adding the options and rebooting is not sufficient to get the = options from your kernel as opposed to a module. >>=20 >> You need to actually recompile the kernel, I hope you did that. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:48 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Looks like it "might have" worked for me. First I added a couple of = options to the GENERIC config: >>>=20 >>> root@:~ # grep IPSEC /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >>> options IPSEC # IP security (requires device = crypto) >>> options IPSEC_NAT_T # NAT-T support, UDP encap of ESP >>>=20 >>> Then rebooted: >>>=20 >>> root@:~ # uname -a >>> FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE #0 r251259: Mon Jun 3 = 01:14:28 UTC 2013 = root@bake.isc.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>>=20 >>> root@:~ # kldload crypto >>> root@:~ # kldstat=20 >>> Id Refs Address Size Name >>> 1 5 0xc0400000 d5c4ec kernel >>> 2 1 0xc58eb000 23000 crypto.ko >>> 3 1 0xc58da000 a000 zlib.ko >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The reason I am doing this is because a new Cisco VPN router will = not work with my IPF Freebsd firewall. The IPF firewall blocks the UDP = ipsec packets on port 4500. So now I need to see if doing the above = exercise helps with IPF blocking IPsec traversal across NAT >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >>> Oh but you can load modules at boot time for GENERIC just fine. >>>=20 >>> While there is a "crypto" module nested under = /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ , I'm not familiar enough with it to say = whether it incorporates both the device and the IPSEC options you're = interested in. >>>=20 >>> You're better off rebuilding GENERIC, or your own kernel, IMHO. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> If you're curious, you can always run : >>> kldload crypto >>>=20 >>> If kldload says the module doesn't exist (I think it should, for = GENERIC), you'll need to build it: >>> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/crypto/ && make && make install >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Here's little me trying to load it under a brand new 8.4 box: >>>=20 >>> # kldload /boot/kernel/crypto.ko >>> kldload: can't load /boot/kernel/crypto.ko: Exec format error >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> If you run into this error like me, "dmesg" will provide you with a = clue, as it does in my case: >>> KLD crypto.ko: depends on zlib - not available or version mismatch >>> linker_load_file: Unsupported file type >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I really encourage you to rebuild your own kernel, stripped of all = the stuff you don't want/need (ISA NICs, wifi, firewire, floppy = controller... ) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Warren Block has written pretty cool articles, here: >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html >>> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I hope that helps, >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:30 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> So the answer is that it's NOT possible to load modules at boot = time for GENERIC? I have to actually build a new kernel? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks! >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fleuriot Damien wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "firmdog@gmail.com" = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> > I am having difficulty understanding what is compiled into the = GENERIC >>>> > kernel. >>>> > >>>> > I need to enable "device crypto" with IPSEC and IPSEC_NAT_T = options. >>>> > >>>> > Can I just configure the GENERIC kernel in a config file? Or do I = have to >>>> > compile a totally new kernel? >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> While it's far from being a good practice, you can simply add your: >>>> device crypto >>>> options IPSEC >>>> options IPSEC_NAT_T >>>>=20 >>>> to /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (assuming you're running a 64bit release = that is). >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Then: cd /usr/src && make kernel-toolchain && make buildkernel >>>>=20 >>>> Once the kernel is built, you only need to "make installkernel" and = reboot. >>>>=20 >>>> It is good practice, before rebooting, to run "mergemaster -p" , = even if you've only done a minor upgrade, let good habits sink in ;) >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Regarding what is compiled in the GENERIC kernel, you can find the = included options and devices at: >>>> /sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC >>>> or >>>> /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >>>>=20 >>>> You may also run config -x /boot/kernel/kernel , if your kernel was = built with INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE , which GENERIC does. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 16:16:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AC1B2B2 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qe0-x241.google.com (mail-qe0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C319D1A97 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f65.google.com with SMTP id 5so190699qeb.8 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:16:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/yUNw5nekuOewokQS1+2v1NJabPvbcW/5bgeWJxLY7Y=; b=Ak8kTZ0wWB75nt04UlgmypwcqU+e5XlSf80EM54XqXuJjCIb5ec0lIK+EdU6m/NrRa 6GZBysL0NVvuoJym8O+nohhRXzFN1o4f7XdMK1amebGCbRPKE3vIZZdcdWc0NzXRXFWV yQ+SfvRAW3gFTiIlj30nb30yxcnidKOvN6EcM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/yUNw5nekuOewokQS1+2v1NJabPvbcW/5bgeWJxLY7Y=; b=WP1cvKkTWepNKqnfgFcjVwuQ56K0AEmppT0HKdSWxbWd0s7mIONgu2Bj6vuRTz2M9I whk33GIitGF3XV/XGnQrUDo9z3pBBz4MnrojYAbLVOHeYMhuV5yEP3VjTnOS6zn2dMM4 /uqkaANDNnDPWRByYiYqLW0L4WIbJSK/imnPZBqlfK7/9Py04uOO6ZJjSxCwi9Wpp9ss G/2S78i/8Db3I5OaVH2IqCI6V234sVvoiF+oOhe6ng68s/9bTCBHl9OnCpHzTGncTgr7 rZ+TNyN5jmS9B2iKZpDJYxf317kigF8FFzlTtzDGKljuN1DqIsz0QX8pkqWPrTyxdyaO HWTw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn3sieQ+VFjkPnPeyzbJLoCS1PrInXQsuhBIdh7sv9MAV8TccmgzVqOKbJlXECpqLYHimEc X-Received: by 10.229.97.134 with SMTP id l6mr7626739qcn.11.1386346602904; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o10sm45445901qaa.6.2013.12.06.08.16.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:16:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:16:40 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread9 crashed immediately after starting Message-ID: <20131206111640.71ab570c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <52A1DAA5.7020304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> <52A1DAA5.7020304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: User questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 16:16:44 -0000 On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 00:09:41 +1000, Da Rock stated: >On 12/05/13 21:08, Jerry wrote: >> System: FreeBSD 10.0-BETA3 #0 r257580 amd64 >> >> I have "acroread9" installed because I write and frequently need to >> fill in online interactive PDF forms. >> >> I have Adobe Pro XI installed on a Windows 8.1 machine to create and >> modify interactive PDFs. It is the only program that I am aware of >> that can accomplish this. I was trying to to insure that the forms >> work correctly under different OSs. Using Firefox and its built in >> PDF program fails miserably. It cannot utilize the interactive >> properties of the PDF. I installed acroread9, but it simply crashes >> a few seconds after it starts. >> >> $ acroread9 >> Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: >> saw unknown, expected number Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: >> saw unknown, expected number terminate called after throwing an >> instance of 'RSException' >> >> This is line 70: >> This is line 78: >> >> From the /var/message log: >> >> Dec 5 05:45:33 scorpio kernel: linux: pid 31377 (acroread): syscall >> inotify_init not implemented >> >> Is this a known issue? If so, then why is the application in the >> ports system if it will not run? If not, what do I have to do to get >> it to run successfully? >> >Try ports@, or emulators@; but I did run this down about year or so >ago (same symptoms) - although I don't remember the RSException - so >check you're up to date. The system is as up-to-date as it can get pretty much. I have the latest FreeBSD-10 BETA installed. The ports are always kept up-to-date. >Also try ldd and see if it might be missing something else that wasn't >missing last time. How would you recommend I run "ldd" on this? >The inotify won't be an issue. That comes up with several >applications, but is essentially harmless. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 16:25:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D849B716 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C5211B48 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id ep20so372792lab.17 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:25:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nkEN3bEp+aH4KvnHoeRIXYtjmiXslDxvLKpfoOFNo44=; b=xnDKqrOuRf6tZDCrQVvle6+19+9qM3QNCMRvymoARzqQeAdb2gEdTBjaD/78DCNXjv qwgbu5qOUXUdlgMm3FIyqMi1PI/P89Wy7LB5MimTeSX/rBFAwrJWQ1s4HC6sl7BR/R/B gWj2g04NTM3CzBzJgdxNV0oBoUdfgWohYJdA5ZQgSPc+jEBSA0cMW3pXAOsd32ZrnVI3 PCmcJqVoSc0IEmpgCujgg4XnLXUSV9hFMrhwDnTzgMs3NH7hFIKT+NQpR2ysPwPZzKLV hXpp2WOt5X3qqJK/aySILnGT+SKxLmpWPciazFVv2TOiMtWGdf6dGi6+f9+VV2rk8NPR hhSQ== X-Received: by 10.152.28.230 with SMTP id e6mr1159038lah.3.1386347148051; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lazlar.no-ip.biz (c-6380e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se. [85.227.128.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e10sm111881587laa.6.2013.12.06.08.25.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:25:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52A1FA89.9050106@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 17:25:45 +0100 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User questions Subject: Re: acroread9 crashed immediately after starting References: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 16:25:51 -0000 On 2013-12-05 12:08, Jerry wrote: > System: FreeBSD 10.0-BETA3 #0 r257580 amd64 > > I have "acroread9" installed because I write and frequently need to fill > in online interactive PDF forms. > > I have Adobe Pro XI installed on a Windows 8.1 machine to create and > modify interactive PDFs. It is the only program that I am aware of that > can accomplish this. I was trying to to insure that the forms work > correctly under different OSs. Using Firefox and its built in PDF > program fails miserably. It cannot utilize the interactive properties of > the PDF. I installed acroread9, but it simply crashes a few seconds > after it starts. > > $ acroread9 > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig warning: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: saw unknown, expected number > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig error: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element > Fontconfig warning: "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: saw unknown, expected number > terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RSException' > > This is line 70: > This is line 78: > > From the /var/message log: > > Dec 5 05:45:33 scorpio kernel: linux: pid 31377 (acroread): syscall inotify_init not implemented > > Is this a known issue? If so, then why is the application in the ports > system if it will not run? If not, what do I have to do to get it to > run successfully? > Have you loaded the linux_adobe kernel module? 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[71.164.130.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dh4sm21119660obb.3.2013.12.06.09.19.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Jails fail to start under ezjail From: Matthew Pherigo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) Message-Id: <6AAEFB10-7580-4B87-B654-0DFFAD6516A7@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:19:15 -0600 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 17:19:16 -0000 Hi, When starting a jail under ezjail, the program gives this message and then q= uits: [root@Chiyochan-FreeBSD /home/matt]# ezjail-admin start smokeping Configuring jails:. Starting jails: cannot start jail "smokeping":=20 . Error: Could not start smokeping. You need to start it by hand. It fails in the same way with onestart as well. I assumed "start by hand" me= ans using jail(8), but there isn't an /etc/jail.conf file for it to read, so= it doesn't start. I haven't heard anything about ezjail needing this file t= hough, I assume that ezjail handles configuration separately. I'm running 9.2-RELEASE. I installed ezjail from PkgNG. This problem is occu= rring even after reinstalling FreeBSD. My drive is formatted UFS. Here's the verbose output, although it doesn't seem to hold any clues: [root@Chiyochan-FreeBSD /home/matt]# /bin/sh -x /usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin s= tart smokeping [123/396]+ ezjail_pr= efix=3D/usr/local + basename -- /usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin + ezjail_admin=3Dezjail-admin + ezjail_etc=3D/usr/local/etc + ezjail_share=3D/usr/local/share/ezjail + ezjail_examples=3D/usr/local/share/examples/ezjail + ezjail_jailcfgs=3D/usr/local/etc/ezjail + [ -f /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf ] + . /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf + : /usr/jails + : /usr/jails/newjail + : /usr/jails/basejail + : /usr/jails/fulljail + : /usr/jails/ezjailtemp + : /usr/jails/flavours + : /usr/jails/ezjail_archives + : /usr/src + : YES + : /usr/bin/login -f root + : YES + : YES + : devfsrules_jail + : YES + : YES + : /bin/sh /etc/rc + : NO = [97/396]+ : + : + ezjail_dirlist=3D'bin boot lib libexec rescue sbin usr/bin usr/include usr= /lib usr/libdata usr/libexec usr/sbin usr/src usr/share' + ezjail_basesystem=3Dbase + uname -p + ezjail_usage_ezjailadmin=3D'ezjail-admin v3.3\nUsage: ezjail-admin [archiv= e|config|console|create|delete|install|list|restore|update] {params}' + ezjail_usage_install=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin install [-mMpPsS] [-h host] [-= r release]' + ezjail_usage_create=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin create [-xbi] [-f flavour] [-r j= ailroot] [-s size] [-c bde|eli|zfs] [-C args] [-a archive] [-z parentzfs] ja= ilname jailip' + ezjail_usage_delete=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin delete [-wf] jailname' + ezjail_usage_update=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin update [-s sourcetree|sourceosv= ersion] [-p] (-b|-i|-u|-U|-P)' + ezjail_usage_config=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin config [-r run|norun] [-n newna= me] [-c cpuset] [-z zfs-datasets] [-f fib] [-i attach|detach|fsck] jailname'= + ezjail_usage_console=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin console [-f] [-e command] jail= name' + ezjail_usage_archive=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin archive [-Af] [-a archive] [-d= archivedir] jailname [jailname...]' + ezjail_usage_restore=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin restore [-f] [-d archivedir] (= archive|jailname)...' + ezjail_usage_list=3D'Usage: ezjail-admin list' + [ 2 -gt 0 ] + start_stop_jail_by_script start smokeping + ezjail_action=3Dstart + ezjail_success_check=3D-n + [ -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail ] + /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail start smokeping Configuring jails:. Starting jails: cannot start jail "smokeping": = [71/396]. + shift + fetchjailinfo smokeping + ezjail_name=3Dsmokeping + unset ezjail_config ezjail_running ezjail_hostname ezjail_rootdir ezjail_i= mage ezjail_imagetype ezjail_imagedevice ezjail_devicelink ezjail_ips ezjail= _id ezjail_attached ezjail_device ezjail_device_geom ezjail_exec_start ezjai= l_exec_stop ezjail_mount_enable ezjail_devfs_enable ezjail_devfs_ruleset ezj= ail_procfs_enable ezjail_fdescfs_enable + echo -n smokeping + tr -c '[:alnum:]' _ + ezjail_safename=3Dsmokeping + [ -z '' ] + [ -e /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ] + ezjail_config=3D/usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping + [ -e /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping.norun ] + [ /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ] + . /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping + export jail_smokeping_hostname=3Dsmokeping + export jail_smokeping_ip=3Dre0@192.168.2.2 + export jail_smokeping_rootdir=3D/usr/jails/smokeping + export 'jail_smokeping_exec_start=3D/bin/sh /etc/rc' + export jail_smokeping_exec_stop=3D + export jail_smokeping_mount_enable=3DYES + export jail_smokeping_devfs_enable=3DYES + export jail_smokeping_devfs_ruleset=3Ddevfsrules_jail + export jail_smokeping_procfs_enable=3DYES + export jail_smokeping_fdescfs_enable=3DYES = [45/396]+ export= jail_smokeping_image=3D + export jail_smokeping_imagetype=3D + export jail_smokeping_attachparams=3D + export jail_smokeping_attachblocking=3D + export jail_smokeping_forceblocking=3D + export jail_smokeping_zfs_datasets=3D + export jail_smokeping_cpuset=3D + export jail_smokeping_fib=3D + export jail_smokeping_parentzfs=3D + export jail_smokeping_parameters=3D + export jail_smokeping_post_start_script=3D + eval 'ezjail_hostname=3D"$jail_smokeping_hostname"' + ezjail_hostname=3Dsmokeping + eval 'ezjail_ips=3D"$jail_smokeping_ip"' + ezjail_ips=3Dre0@192.168.2.2 + eval 'ezjail_rootdir=3D"$jail_smokeping_rootdir"' + ezjail_rootdir=3D/usr/jails/smokeping + eval 'ezjail_exec_start=3D"$jail_smokeping_exec_start"' + ezjail_exec_start=3D'/bin/sh /etc/rc' + eval 'ezjail_exec_stop=3D"$jail_smokeping_exec_stop"' + ezjail_exec_stop=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_exec=3D"$jail_smokeping_exec"' + ezjail_exec=3D'' + [ '' -a -z '/bin/sh /etc/rc' ] + eval 'ezjail_mount_enable=3D"$jail_smokeping_mount_enable"' + ezjail_mount_enable=3DYES = [19/396]+ eval '= ezjail_devfs_enable=3D"$jail_smokeping_devfs_enable"' + ezjail_devfs_enable=3DYES + eval 'ezjail_devfs_ruleset=3D"$jail_smokeping_devfs_ruleset"' + ezjail_devfs_ruleset=3Ddevfsrules_jail + eval 'ezjail_procfs_enable=3D"$jail_smokeping_procfs_enable"' + ezjail_procfs_enable=3DYES + eval 'ezjail_fdescfs_enable=3D"$jail_smokeping_fdescfs_enable"' + ezjail_fdescfs_enable=3DYES + eval 'ezjail_image=3D"$jail_smokeping_image"' + ezjail_image=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_imagetype=3D"$jail_smokeping_imagetype"' + ezjail_imagetype=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_attachparams=3D"$jail_smokeping_attachparams"' + ezjail_attachparams=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_attachblocking=3D"$jail_smokeping_attachblocking"' + ezjail_attachblocking=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_forceblocking=3D"$jail_smokeping_forceblocking"' + ezjail_forceblocking=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_zfs_datasets=3D"$jail_smokeping_zfs_datasets"' + ezjail_zfs_datasets=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_cpuset=3D"$jail_smokeping_cpuset"' + ezjail_cpuset=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_fib=3D"$jail_smokeping_fib"' + ezjail_fib=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_parentzfs=3D"$jail_smokeping_parentzfs"' + ezjail_parentzfs=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_parameters=3D"$jail_smokeping_parameters"' + ezjail_parameters=3D'' + eval 'ezjail_post_start_script=3D"$jail_smokeping_post_start_script"' + ezjail_post_start_script=3D'' + : + basename -- /usr/jails/smokeping + ezjail_softlink=3D/usr/jails/smokeping + ezjail_devicelink=3D/usr/jails/smokeping.device + [ '' -a -L /usr/jails/smokeping.device ] + [ -f /var/run/jail_smokeping.id ] + return + [ -n '' ] + exerr 'Error: Could not start smokeping.\n You need to start it by hand.'= + echo -e 'Error: Could not start smokeping.\n You need to start it by hand= .' Error: Could not start smokeping. You need to start it by hand. + exit 1 If anyone can tell me what's going on, I'd really appreciate it. I'm a newbi= e to FreeBSD and I'm loving it so far. Thanks! --Matt= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 17:30:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF0B71E5 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 17:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [74.208.4.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1A8B10D5 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 17:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.111] ([80.187.106.167]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLOQm-1VoQn70RRC-000a4x for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:17:06 +0100 Message-ID: <52A20652.4010809@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:16:02 +0100 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131103 Icedove/17.0.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ifconfig_x0="DHCP" and ifconfig_x0_alias0="a.b.c.d" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:++K3Xi6y6caoj3SJOA+qWfAl4ycvbjQauk1YVMY476x8XMHLbUb VMsB+gRHAdmDVIgbHvVjFkIBHXBWlehVHnr14fHgcf5hp20NParkTTY4uygsg5MpQ7qllXo b7hlFO5CLHmXMv77O17z7y6sOhFLGihJj4M5AWAyldJxFgttQ2pjaEox02WFcMy+81bE6U4 j1HJPtDLIzVMLxQWBL2FA== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 17:30:02 -0000 Hi, I am looking for a rc friendly way to set up an IP alias and DHCP on an interface. I am after this: ifconfig_net0="DHCP" ifconfig_net0_alias0="inet 1.2.3.4/24" I ve tried some combinations found in the manual but nothing worked so far... 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[83.50.1.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f11sm8754605wic.4.2013.12.06.10.56.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:56:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 19:56:18 +0100 From: Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pat=F3n?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Equivalence to cp -Ru Message-Id: <20131206195618.899fe8b4e89177f1bd331344@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:56:23 -0000 Dear list: In Linux I used the following command in bash on an external USB disk: cp -Ru * /media/BACKUP Now in FreeBSD with csh the command cp is a little different.=20 Is there any equivalence to cp -Ru that only copy the newest files of my la= ptop to external disk? cp -a ? Many thanks --=20 ******************************************************** Daniel Pat=F3n Dom=EDnguez Numerical Ecology. Ecology Unit Department of Plant Biology, Ecology and Earth Sciences Faculty of Sciences. University of Extremadura Avda. Elvas s/n 06071 Badajoz (Spain) http://unex.academia.edu/DanielPatonDominguez https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Daniel_Paton/ http://sites.google.com/site/numericalecologyuex/home ******************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 20:36:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CB7531F for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 20:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B45E1EA4 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 20:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [92.76.75.238] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp1qn-0003Z7-1R; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 21:18:13 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "Matthew Pherigo" Subject: Re: Jails fail to start under ezjail References: <6AAEFB10-7580-4B87-B654-0DFFAD6516A7@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 21:18:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6AAEFB10-7580-4B87-B654-0DFFAD6516A7@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.8/18208/Fri Dec 6 18:42:56 2013) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 20:36:44 -0000 On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:19:15 +0100, Matthew Pherigo wrote: > Hi, > > When starting a jail under ezjail, the program gives this message and > then quits: > > [root@Chiyochan-FreeBSD /home/matt]# ezjail-admin start smokeping > Configuring jails:. > Starting jails: cannot start jail "smokeping": > . > Error: Could not start smokeping. > You need to start it by hand. > Hi, a guess: An IP address assigned to the jail is not configured anywhere on the machine. See /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ( "export jail_smokeping_ip=..." ) Michael > It fails in the same way with onestart as well. I assumed "start by > hand" means using jail(8), but there isn't an /etc/jail.conf file for it > to read, so it doesn't start. I haven't heard anything about ezjail > needing this file though, I assume that ezjail handles configuration > separately. > > I'm running 9.2-RELEASE. I installed ezjail from PkgNG. This problem is > occurring even after reinstalling FreeBSD. My drive is formatted UFS. > > Here's the verbose output, although it doesn't seem to hold any clues: > > [root@Chiyochan-FreeBSD /home/matt]# /bin/sh -x > /usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin start > smokeping [123/396]+ > ezjail_prefix=/usr/local > + basename -- /usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin > + ezjail_admin=ezjail-admin > + ezjail_etc=/usr/local/etc > + ezjail_share=/usr/local/share/ezjail > + ezjail_examples=/usr/local/share/examples/ezjail > + ezjail_jailcfgs=/usr/local/etc/ezjail > + [ -f /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf ] > + . /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf > + : /usr/jails > + : /usr/jails/newjail > + : /usr/jails/basejail > + : /usr/jails/fulljail > + : /usr/jails/ezjailtemp > + : /usr/jails/flavours > + : /usr/jails/ezjail_archives > + : /usr/src > + : YES > + : /usr/bin/login -f root > + : YES > + : YES > + : devfsrules_jail > + : YES > + : YES > + : /bin/sh /etc/rc > + : > NO > [97/396]+ : > + : > + ezjail_dirlist='bin boot lib libexec rescue sbin usr/bin usr/include > usr/lib usr/libdata usr/libexec usr/sbin usr/src usr/share' > + ezjail_basesystem=base > + uname -p > + ezjail_usage_ezjailadmin='ezjail-admin v3.3\nUsage: ezjail-admin > [archive|config|console|create|delete|install|list|restore|update] > {params}' > + ezjail_usage_install='Usage: ezjail-admin install [-mMpPsS] [-h host] > [-r release]' > + ezjail_usage_create='Usage: ezjail-admin create [-xbi] [-f flavour] > [-r jailroot] [-s size] [-c bde|eli|zfs] [-C args] [-a archive] [-z > parentzfs] jailname jailip' > + ezjail_usage_delete='Usage: ezjail-admin delete [-wf] jailname' > + ezjail_usage_update='Usage: ezjail-admin update [-s > sourcetree|sourceosversion] [-p] (-b|-i|-u|-U|-P)' > + ezjail_usage_config='Usage: ezjail-admin config [-r run|norun] [-n > newname] [-c cpuset] [-z zfs-datasets] [-f fib] [-i attach|detach|fsck] > jailname' > + ezjail_usage_console='Usage: ezjail-admin console [-f] [-e command] > jailname' > + ezjail_usage_archive='Usage: ezjail-admin archive [-Af] [-a archive] > [-d archivedir] jailname [jailname...]' > + ezjail_usage_restore='Usage: ezjail-admin restore [-f] [-d archivedir] > (archive|jailname)...' > + ezjail_usage_list='Usage: ezjail-admin list' > + [ 2 -gt 0 ] > + start_stop_jail_by_script start smokeping > + ezjail_action=start > + ezjail_success_check=-n > + [ -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail ] > + /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail start smokeping > Configuring jails:. > Starting jails: cannot start jail > "smokeping": > [71/396]. > + shift > + fetchjailinfo smokeping > + ezjail_name=smokeping > + unset ezjail_config ezjail_running ezjail_hostname ezjail_rootdir > ezjail_image ezjail_imagetype ezjail_imagedevice ezjail_devicelink > ezjail_ips ezjail_id ezjail_attached ezjail_device ezjail_device_geom > ezjail_exec_start ezjail_exec_stop ezjail_mount_enable > ezjail_devfs_enable ezjail_devfs_ruleset ezjail_procfs_enable > ezjail_fdescfs_enable > + echo -n smokeping > + tr -c '[:alnum:]' _ > + ezjail_safename=smokeping > + [ -z '' ] > + [ -e /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ] > + ezjail_config=/usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping > + [ -e /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping.norun ] > + [ /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ] > + . /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping > + export jail_smokeping_hostname=smokeping > + export jail_smokeping_ip=re0@192.168.2.2 > + export jail_smokeping_rootdir=/usr/jails/smokeping > + export 'jail_smokeping_exec_start=/bin/sh /etc/rc' > + export jail_smokeping_exec_stop= > + export jail_smokeping_mount_enable=YES > + export jail_smokeping_devfs_enable=YES > + export jail_smokeping_devfs_ruleset=devfsrules_jail > + export jail_smokeping_procfs_enable=YES > + export > jail_smokeping_fdescfs_enable=YES > [45/396]+ export jail_smokeping_image= > + export jail_smokeping_imagetype= > + export jail_smokeping_attachparams= > + export jail_smokeping_attachblocking= > + export jail_smokeping_forceblocking= > + export jail_smokeping_zfs_datasets= > + export jail_smokeping_cpuset= > + export jail_smokeping_fib= > + export jail_smokeping_parentzfs= > + export jail_smokeping_parameters= > + export jail_smokeping_post_start_script= > + eval 'ezjail_hostname="$jail_smokeping_hostname"' > + ezjail_hostname=smokeping > + eval 'ezjail_ips="$jail_smokeping_ip"' > + ezjail_ips=re0@192.168.2.2 > + eval 'ezjail_rootdir="$jail_smokeping_rootdir"' > + ezjail_rootdir=/usr/jails/smokeping > + eval 'ezjail_exec_start="$jail_smokeping_exec_start"' > + ezjail_exec_start='/bin/sh /etc/rc' > + eval 'ezjail_exec_stop="$jail_smokeping_exec_stop"' > + ezjail_exec_stop='' > + eval 'ezjail_exec="$jail_smokeping_exec"' > + ezjail_exec='' > + [ '' -a -z '/bin/sh /etc/rc' ] > + eval 'ezjail_mount_enable="$jail_smokeping_mount_enable"' > + > ezjail_mount_enable=YES > [19/396]+ eval 'ezjail_devfs_enable="$jail_smokeping_devfs_enable"' > + ezjail_devfs_enable=YES > + eval 'ezjail_devfs_ruleset="$jail_smokeping_devfs_ruleset"' > + ezjail_devfs_ruleset=devfsrules_jail > + eval 'ezjail_procfs_enable="$jail_smokeping_procfs_enable"' > + ezjail_procfs_enable=YES > + eval 'ezjail_fdescfs_enable="$jail_smokeping_fdescfs_enable"' > + ezjail_fdescfs_enable=YES > + eval 'ezjail_image="$jail_smokeping_image"' > + ezjail_image='' > + eval 'ezjail_imagetype="$jail_smokeping_imagetype"' > + ezjail_imagetype='' > + eval 'ezjail_attachparams="$jail_smokeping_attachparams"' > + ezjail_attachparams='' > + eval 'ezjail_attachblocking="$jail_smokeping_attachblocking"' > + ezjail_attachblocking='' > + eval 'ezjail_forceblocking="$jail_smokeping_forceblocking"' > + ezjail_forceblocking='' > + eval 'ezjail_zfs_datasets="$jail_smokeping_zfs_datasets"' > + ezjail_zfs_datasets='' > + eval 'ezjail_cpuset="$jail_smokeping_cpuset"' > + ezjail_cpuset='' > + eval 'ezjail_fib="$jail_smokeping_fib"' > + ezjail_fib='' > + eval 'ezjail_parentzfs="$jail_smokeping_parentzfs"' > + ezjail_parentzfs='' > + eval 'ezjail_parameters="$jail_smokeping_parameters"' > + ezjail_parameters='' > + eval 'ezjail_post_start_script="$jail_smokeping_post_start_script"' > + ezjail_post_start_script='' > + : > + basename -- /usr/jails/smokeping > + ezjail_softlink=/usr/jails/smokeping > + ezjail_devicelink=/usr/jails/smokeping.device > + [ '' -a -L /usr/jails/smokeping.device ] > + [ -f /var/run/jail_smokeping.id ] > + return > + [ -n '' ] > + exerr 'Error: Could not start smokeping.\n You need to start it by > hand.' > + echo -e 'Error: Could not start smokeping.\n You need to start it by > hand.' > Error: Could not start smokeping. > You need to start it by hand. > + exit 1 > > > If anyone can tell me what's going on, I'd really appreciate it. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j4sm38559809qan.4.2013.12.06.12.56.27 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:56:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 15:56:25 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread9 crashed immediately after starting Message-ID: <20131206155625.5054919c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <52A1FA89.9050106@gmail.com> References: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> <52A1FA89.9050106@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: User questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 20:56:28 -0000 On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 17:25:45 +0100, Rolf G Nielsen stated: > > >On 2013-12-05 12:08, Jerry wrote: >> System: FreeBSD 10.0-BETA3 #0 r257580 amd64 >>=20 >> I have "acroread9" installed because I write and frequently need to >> fill in online interactive PDF forms. >>=20 >> I have Adobe Pro XI installed on a Windows 8.1 machine to create and >> modify interactive PDFs. It is the only program that I am aware of >> that can accomplish this. I was trying to to insure that the forms >> work correctly under different OSs. Using Firefox and its built in >> PDF program fails miserably. It cannot utilize the interactive >> properties of the PDF. I installed acroread9, but it simply crashes >> a few seconds after it starts. >>=20 >> $ acroread9 >> Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: >> saw unknown, expected number Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >> non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: >> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: >> saw unknown, expected number terminate called after throwing an >> instance of 'RSException' >>=20 >> This is line 70: >> This is line 78: >>=20 >> From the /var/message log: >>=20 >> Dec 5 05:45:33 scorpio kernel: linux: pid 31377 (acroread): syscall >> inotify_init not implemented >>=20 >> Is this a known issue? If so, then why is the application in the >> ports system if it will not run? If not, what do I have to do to get >> it to run successfully? >>=20 > >Have you loaded the linux_adobe kernel module? =46rom /etc/rc.conf: linux_enable=3D"YES" kldstat doesn't list it either. I cannot find it on my system either. --=20 Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 21:24:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E6CD75C for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 21:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D77211CF for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 21:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A46C276E3; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:24:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB6LO7dK003532; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:24:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:24:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pat=F3n?= Subject: Re: Equivalence to cp -Ru Message-Id: <20131206222407.8468245b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131206195618.899fe8b4e89177f1bd331344@gmail.com> References: <20131206195618.899fe8b4e89177f1bd331344@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 21:24:25 -0000 On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 19:56:18 +0100, Daniel Pat=F3n wrote: > In Linux I used the following command in bash on an external USB disk: >=20 > cp -Ru * /media/BACKUP >=20 > Now in FreeBSD with csh the command cp is a little different.=20 This has nothing to do with the C shell, as /bin/cp is an external command (binary). :-) > Is there any equivalence to cp -Ru that only copy the newest > files of my laptop to external disk? I'd suggest using cpdup from the ports collection. It can handle the described scenario very well (and flexible, if required). > cp -a ? This is equivelant to cp -RpP: recursive, preserve certain attributes, do not follow symlinks. See "man cp" for details. Linux cp's -u (--update) does not have a direct equivalent. Try cpdup. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[85.227.128.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bl6sm14754495lbb.5.2013.12.06.14.32.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Dec 2013 14:32:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52A2506C.1070504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 23:32:12 +0100 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User questions Subject: Re: acroread9 crashed immediately after starting References: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> <52A1FA89.9050106@gmail.com> <20131206155625.5054919c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20131206155625.5054919c@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:32:17 -0000 On 2013-12-06 21:56, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 17:25:45 +0100, Rolf G Nielsen stated: > >> >> >> On 2013-12-05 12:08, Jerry wrote: >>> System: FreeBSD 10.0-BETA3 #0 r257580 amd64 >>> >>> I have "acroread9" installed because I write and frequently need to >>> fill in online interactive PDF forms. >>> >>> I have Adobe Pro XI installed on a Windows 8.1 machine to create and >>> modify interactive PDFs. It is the only program that I am aware of >>> that can accomplish this. I was trying to to insure that the forms >>> work correctly under different OSs. Using Firefox and its built in >>> PDF program fails miserably. It cannot utilize the interactive >>> properties of the PDF. I installed acroread9, but it simply crashes >>> a few seconds after it starts. >>> >>> $ acroread9 >>> Fontconfig error: >>> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >>> non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: >>> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >>> non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: >>> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: >>> saw unknown, expected number Fontconfig error: >>> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >>> non-double matrix element Fontconfig error: >>> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: >>> non-double matrix element Fontconfig warning: >>> "/usr/local/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: >>> saw unknown, expected number terminate called after throwing an >>> instance of 'RSException' >>> >>> This is line 70: >>> This is line 78: >>> >>> From the /var/message log: >>> >>> Dec 5 05:45:33 scorpio kernel: linux: pid 31377 (acroread): syscall >>> inotify_init not implemented >>> >>> Is this a known issue? If so, then why is the application in the >>> ports system if it will not run? If not, what do I have to do to get >>> it to run successfully? >>> >> >> Have you loaded the linux_adobe kernel module? > > From /etc/rc.conf: linux_enable="YES" > > kldstat doesn't list it either. I cannot find it on my system either. > There is a linux_adobe.ko kernel module that needs to be loaded as well, the linux.ko is not sufficient. Don't ask me why, I'm not a kernel hacker. The module isn't installed in the /boot/kernel nor /boot/modules directories. I'm not sure exactly where it's installed, but there's a rc.d script that loads it. Try this /usr/local/etc/rc.d/linux_adobe start And put linux_adobe_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf to have it load automagically when the system boots. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 6 22:34:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD6AA376; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A595217B4; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rB6MYIw9012697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:34:18 -0600 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.7]) by LTCFISWMSGHT03.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.31]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:34:17 -0600 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: ifconfig_x0="DHCP" and ifconfig_x0_alias0="a.b.c.d" Thread-Topic: ifconfig_x0="DHCP" and ifconfig_x0_alias0="a.b.c.d" Thread-Index: AQHO8tNLEfJhwngxlU+FnB3v1nRbwA== Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:34:16 +0000 Message-ID: References: <52A20652.4010809@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <52A20652.4010809@gmx.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.120] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.72, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-12-06_06:2013-12-06,2013-12-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , "Teske, Devin" , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:34:19 -0000 On Dec 6, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am looking for a rc friendly way to set up an IP alias and DHCP > on an interface. I am after this: > ifconfig_net0=3D"DHCP" > ifconfig_net0_alias0=3D"inet 1.2.3.4/24" >=20 > I ve tried some combinations found in the manual but nothing worked > so far... >=20 What release are you on? If you're on 9.2-R or higher... there are multiple ways... First way... Use sysrc(8)... sysrc ifconfig_net0=3D"DHCP" sysrc ifconfig_net0_alias0=3D"inet 1.2.3.4/24" NOTE: See "man sysrc" for more info Need more control? Use a shell API library... # At the top of your rc... . /usr/share/bsdconfig/sysrc.subr # Then wherever you want... f_sysrc_set ifconfig_net0 DHCP f_sysrc_set ifconfig_net0_alias0 "inet 1.2.3.4/24" NOTE: Works on 9.2-R+ NOTE: If you're on 11.0-C or higher, there's an API reference... see "bsdconfig includes -d sysrc" for sysrc API references However, you'll need to be aware, that if you intend to change these values *during* the boot process... the newly modified values may not take effect for the current boot, as the values are aggressively cached (for which there is a patch by Sir Percival to address -- see SVN r258894 for additional information on that). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 02:54:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC549EB6 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 02:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x22c.google.com (mail-pb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81DA719FC for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 02:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rq2so2142772pbb.3 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:54:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tNok5wnsZLXZu2rdxhL6lf21QQgqA2i5UD26aso2TI8=; b=t8wlfql6L6Tfa+D0KESOdT9H2uqI7rPUK6co+/21pR9DKagtqNiH1NK4LbpS3iMqbL K9dQ/qZyFnL78WAG8JgDIsfB2RX2NZNj1KDTfBbv/ykYQMpC0p0fsego4WaL6cZNBddA hzHZVOPDI+5ob/JEC7TQDwWTQAyjC+OImGoqaI33V8k7MW0DeKiCQMBX54DyGpXPwTJ9 NgfeKSIcgeRdA6BFL0YywLj6RPnuUomcEI6Ele9lqbE2A9lmBZU+uRoACqjwQkQXr5oD 3z8qV+dUNrmpOxV0rcGOmXsBBnYtNN1EiaxN72G2jc7a81waBt14Vr4tMBL73jqJZ4su Hhaw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.236.133 with SMTP id uu5mr7753768pbc.153.1386384850102; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.92.79 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 18:54:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6AAEFB10-7580-4B87-B654-0DFFAD6516A7@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 20:54:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Jails fail to start under ezjail From: Adam Vande More To: Michael Ross Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Matthew Pherigo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 02:54:10 -0000 On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Michael Ross wrote: > On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 18:19:15 +0100, Matthew Pherigo > wrote: > > Hi, >> >> When starting a jail under ezjail, the program gives this message and >> then quits: >> >> [root@Chiyochan-FreeBSD /home/matt]# ezjail-admin start smokeping >> Configuring jails:. >> Starting jails: cannot start jail "smokeping": >> . >> Error: Could not start smokeping. >> You need to start it by hand. >> >> > Hi, > > a guess: > An IP address assigned to the jail is not configured anywhere on the > machine. > > See /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ( "export jail_smokeping_ip=..." ) > > > Michael > > > > > It fails in the same way with onestart as well. I assumed "start by hand" >> means using jail(8), but there isn't an /etc/jail.conf file for it to read, >> so it doesn't start. I haven't heard anything about ezjail needing this >> file though, I assume that ezjail handles configuration separately. >> >> I'm running 9.2-RELEASE. I installed ezjail from PkgNG. This problem is >> occurring even after reinstalling FreeBSD. My drive is formatted UFS. >> >> Here's the verbose output, although it doesn't seem to hold any clues: >> >> [root@Chiyochan-FreeBSD /home/matt]# /bin/sh -x >> /usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin start smokeping >> [123/396]+ ezjail_prefix=/usr/local >> + basename -- /usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin >> + ezjail_admin=ezjail-admin >> + ezjail_etc=/usr/local/etc >> + ezjail_share=/usr/local/share/ezjail >> + ezjail_examples=/usr/local/share/examples/ezjail >> + ezjail_jailcfgs=/usr/local/etc/ezjail >> + [ -f /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf ] >> + . /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf >> + : /usr/jails >> + : /usr/jails/newjail >> + : /usr/jails/basejail >> + : /usr/jails/fulljail >> + : /usr/jails/ezjailtemp >> + : /usr/jails/flavours >> + : /usr/jails/ezjail_archives >> + : /usr/src >> + : YES >> + : /usr/bin/login -f root >> + : YES >> + : YES >> + : devfsrules_jail >> + : YES >> + : YES >> + : /bin/sh /etc/rc >> + : NO >> [97/396]+ : >> + : >> + ezjail_dirlist='bin boot lib libexec rescue sbin usr/bin usr/include >> usr/lib usr/libdata usr/libexec usr/sbin usr/src usr/share' >> + ezjail_basesystem=base >> + uname -p >> + ezjail_usage_ezjailadmin='ezjail-admin v3.3\nUsage: ezjail-admin >> [archive|config|console|create|delete|install|list|restore|update] >> {params}' >> + ezjail_usage_install='Usage: ezjail-admin install [-mMpPsS] [-h host] >> [-r release]' >> + ezjail_usage_create='Usage: ezjail-admin create [-xbi] [-f flavour] [-r >> jailroot] [-s size] [-c bde|eli|zfs] [-C args] [-a archive] [-z parentzfs] >> jailname jailip' >> + ezjail_usage_delete='Usage: ezjail-admin delete [-wf] jailname' >> + ezjail_usage_update='Usage: ezjail-admin update [-s >> sourcetree|sourceosversion] [-p] (-b|-i|-u|-U|-P)' >> + ezjail_usage_config='Usage: ezjail-admin config [-r run|norun] [-n >> newname] [-c cpuset] [-z zfs-datasets] [-f fib] [-i attach|detach|fsck] >> jailname' >> + ezjail_usage_console='Usage: ezjail-admin console [-f] [-e command] >> jailname' >> + ezjail_usage_archive='Usage: ezjail-admin archive [-Af] [-a archive] >> [-d archivedir] jailname [jailname...]' >> + ezjail_usage_restore='Usage: ezjail-admin restore [-f] [-d archivedir] >> (archive|jailname)...' >> + ezjail_usage_list='Usage: ezjail-admin list' >> + [ 2 -gt 0 ] >> + start_stop_jail_by_script start smokeping >> + ezjail_action=start >> + ezjail_success_check=-n >> + [ -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail ] >> + /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail start smokeping >> Configuring jails:. >> Starting jails: cannot start jail "smokeping": >> [71/396]. >> + shift >> + fetchjailinfo smokeping >> + ezjail_name=smokeping >> + unset ezjail_config ezjail_running ezjail_hostname ezjail_rootdir >> ezjail_image ezjail_imagetype ezjail_imagedevice ezjail_devicelink >> ezjail_ips ezjail_id ezjail_attached ezjail_device ezjail_device_geom >> ezjail_exec_start ezjail_exec_stop ezjail_mount_enable ezjail_devfs_enable >> ezjail_devfs_ruleset ezjail_procfs_enable ezjail_fdescfs_enable >> + echo -n smokeping >> + tr -c '[:alnum:]' _ >> + ezjail_safename=smokeping >> + [ -z '' ] >> + [ -e /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ] >> + ezjail_config=/usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping >> + [ -e /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping.norun ] >> + [ /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping ] >> + . /usr/local/etc/ezjail/smokeping >> + export jail_smokeping_hostname=smokeping >> + export jail_smokeping_ip=re0@192.168.2.2 > > Not that familiar with ezjail, but this looks wrong. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 05:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86E46AC0 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 05:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:2:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B03114FF for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 05:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp121-45-108-103.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.108.103]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2013 16:25:53 +1030 Message-ID: <52A2B867.50102@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:25:51 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "firmdog@gmail.com" , Fleuriot Damien Subject: Re: do I have to compile a new kernel? or just add options somehow? References: <1A249B2C-B341-4270-B343-627901FD9562@my.gd> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 05:55:55 -0000 On 06/12/2013 07:11, firmdog@gmail.com wrote: > I ran #kldload crypto. Did you see that? Then I ran kldstat and it > shows the module loaded. > > Why do I have to recompile the kernel if I can run kldload or use > loader.conf to load the module at boot time? > The various kernel modules can either be compiled into the kernel or loaded dynamically. There may be one or two exceptions that only work compiled in and some devices are obviously needed to boot the system. The modules that aren't compiled into the kernel will be available as loadable modules. An option compiled into the kernel is permanently available, consuming ram etc. A loadable module can be unloaded if not in use. The main reason for configuring and building your own kernel has been to remove things you don't want, therefore reducing minimum ram usage - less important for current systems with plenty of ram. You can configure the crypto module to be automatically loaded during startup by adding crypto_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 06:18:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F2C3FED for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 06:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C32116A7 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 06:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hq4so1855472wib.1 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:18:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=48qeZThddEYF4urudeeoYlu5VdBwZuiiG3xRra3RW20=; b=ySHKPUdxfZPYKUUd5G4Cf7OvJQAX3wSnkWcnX+ayQOL/gt5LlduQ0uYVPkYbdLSTI4 vbuQ55BqS82Waf9rWU8uyQ+V7PKYjRKx5QnqY+AhSA2hq1LbCnC8V04++AJH3itwvmvO tCHNekfuYDdiKCFUDybookKnvmgIGAsuBpCAvZws6j0iS7fSzrF9TvZ7XJYvsM6ZJIZG R3Co8L0RYmHsD8xeRLs2bYW8FzdI/dfIO1V2S4hdV974WmO4D0/j31o0gGk9i6LgQpI4 ob+Drnx+GMWHLCIiyDMSbTLA6VezaKLX1AQ5DLfiOAOzXHRFi+j1VhQqZsUhaZBxICfB tYiQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.5.7 with SMTP id o7mr6496877wjo.17.1386397135738; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.30.8 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:18:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 23:18:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Filesystem label problem From: "William D. Colburn (Schlake)" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 06:18:57 -0000 Only two of my three filesystems are showing up in /dev/ufs/. root@backeeep# uname -a FreeBSD backeeep 9.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p2 #1 r256367M: Sat Oct 12 19:37:30 MDT 2013 schlake@eeep:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root@backeeep# dumpfs -m /dev/ada0 # newfs command for /dev/ada0 (/dev/ada0) newfs -L 4t1 -O 2 -a 4 -b 32768 -d 32768 -e 4096 -f 4096 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 0 -o time -s 7814037168 /dev/ada0 root@backeeep# dumpfs -m /dev/ada1 # newfs command for /dev/ada1 (/dev/ada1) newfs -L 3t2 -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o time -s 5860533168 /dev/ada1 root@backeeep# dumpfs -m /dev/ada3 # newfs command for /dev/ada3 (/dev/ada3) newfs -L 3t1 -O 2 -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 0 -o space -s 5860533164 /dev/ada3 root@backeeep# ls /dev/ufs/ 3t2 4t1 root@backeeep# mount /dev/ad0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) root@backeeep# Why is one of them missing? void *(*(*schlake(void *))[])(void *); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 06:53:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A72ED913 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 06:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm18-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32F2B1884 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 06:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.196.81.161] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2013 06:50:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.96] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2013 06:50:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2013 06:50:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1386399031; bh=69JK42bHvURDO7sO2Podi+pew7yk2aSPDLfnAgfQrpc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:References; b=z90W7QFn244GSJYJPb1N8DeUsV3pHa9FnYhW/NIVSGjQsIV4i826/kFs7WcQVUxl3w+FLRMhJ8BKjyxvLV1x+e9lJ1zHlZJMFLSAz5PNAnI5XzAF35wIuYbaiLSDJaeR/ijtSPC9J6p9kzymcX5/h0Ge+7fnJ5ZG/iVVWW8kKeQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 823132.45568.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <823132.45568.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 06:50:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: avA1nuIVM1lERUGgYKO83BEqN5Fy4pq5ytdi0K2WpqHf493 i9V6wnjEauehy4BXHIrA5.IMeeuGbZchCFZixNI.eJWsQBEx0Mmh2Zifb3No m_ElMXNG7H.kI4pk9_zM6urfFF7SKsBHnGUpqCj0o_EiPdG_xDTzo5GiPpN3 O7Av5izp6v.ed0aFnba0fUIfmsrFURS228r12yVX2HGYOfbRzH35bH59X0zg xVDYLcQzPGiPszjFxFQnpoVjUO8c3DexyLHA4ahy0RLV7ZuHoUBbkJNP_tmu SSGBklxSd.m97uBQZux_.m7HC7B359iX57X1hqeGWKw6LS8lsfMsP00reERd wb_0Gsr67MxjzFhQFUKCLxIHou51YXH0Fb.abXrD9KZJn87pY737PkhJdEl_ X7ej8MVXhw36ii71pvyanX.AJPq1_4R1g8DhLqrI2PG0i6yHhThZnHVrq4Jl G1n3esWsl3s6qBfgdUw7diG56no3NMqw28lS.jlagagPfW74Vb25qoz2QEmD rrOyXgQsE3NvCbRF9bo4EK1vKXSE83w5w72KK6AJrEA4QJfG1SoKRRD1D_iW 0eoa_dnGJIIvLx1WUeYi0_.N. X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with ) by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Dec 2013 06:50:31 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Equivalence to cp -Ru References: <20131206195618.899fe8b4e89177f1bd331344@gmail.com> <20131206222407.8468245b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 06:53:02 -0000 On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 19:56:18 +0100, Daniel Patón wrote: > In Linux I used the following command in bash on an external USB disk: > cp -Ru * /media/BACKUP > Now in FreeBSD with csh the command cp is a little different. I asked about the same question some months ago, having used cp -Rpu in Linux (p preserves permissions). Best answer I got then was rsync. I see Polytropon's suggestion, cpdup, is much smaller. I find cpdup in FreeBSD ports but not NetBSD pkgsrc. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 11:32:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A89B9B46 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x243.google.com (mail-qc0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C82715CE for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f195.google.com with SMTP id e16so402162qcx.2 for ; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 03:32:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/zNwGkNgttIs3gbJIrI9872+8BMogT80SP/r10UXWcE=; b=llJZo1xHSIk946qdl125mR8+u9C4n2yKOAfcMNdk6VceNKJmGfs5th5MZ56pbvw1Oo hgty9kn11I2OMlLvo81MV8DjyqD7o35ByWwHcsmSAHmnTUgZPswPR4RXZ5DVN91ETWWJ CymygB7dKmAiB/OkzggWtsgyKFIEbs5So7KQ0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/zNwGkNgttIs3gbJIrI9872+8BMogT80SP/r10UXWcE=; b=TUP1JUXSMVQmogQWbgVsOBiuHhkGb1pGCQIA6dW825RHWo2d3u4INYg6SxIGEflkZy B9uCI9ACji4LK4mbUf3UuXhrkG6SS1hne2XznUytZRg/v6/nPDJe8LUQlz4toS8HUcmH Au72hXG1tSHj0UzOpuEO8W4x1sN/F5A15gVUG+yV94reyhnxc0MBbR1BbGrPv9ZcBG5j Wh6DH3fYMXiPH+0kV0Mz9BGOhyiPIm4Am5IJcyotTLylv+/8Kr3Nv6FHaaq78M4gbp7s nV9fS5LQoG8IdlapSvgMPmcJztALgAw3ygV527EkxU+VVNULyuh05nkveCxMNikjqYAZ LW3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkaJbyTR2+Yg3uWv2mh4WY3X7SEOEkdOnD1Y3rrjvUauDG5UT/LGf5itDRVjmzBxZtpDy7g X-Received: by 10.49.86.199 with SMTP id r7mr15330897qez.23.1386415921425; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 03:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ki4sm6158585qeb.0.2013.12.07.03.32.01 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 03:32:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 06:31:59 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acroread9 crashed immediately after starting Message-ID: <20131207063159.635ae626@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <52A2506C.1070504@gmail.com> References: <20131205060844.75e94b4b@scorpio> <52A1FA89.9050106@gmail.com> <20131206155625.5054919c@scorpio> <52A2506C.1070504@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: User questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 11:32:02 -0000 On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 23:32:12 +0100, Rolf G Nielsen stated: >There is a linux_adobe.ko kernel module that needs to be loaded as >well, the linux.ko is not sufficient. Don't ask me why, I'm not a >kernel hacker. The module isn't installed in the /boot/kernel >nor /boot/modules directories. I'm not sure exactly where it's >installed, but there's a rc.d script that loads it. Try this > >/usr/local/etc/rc.d/linux_adobe start > >And put > >linux_adobe_enable="YES" > >in your /etc/rc.conf to have it load automagically when the system >boots. Thanks, that was it. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 12:12:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A5FEFD4 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm1-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 303901741 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2013 12:10:27 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.144] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2013 12:10:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2013 12:10:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1386418227; bh=xTSKYCFzd9E3XWgqNq1W8aorS11HdqCkeBTaoyFbDfY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:References; b=fTK1LdeoMlYA3P848aKq1nAWNdVrmAM+pPh3eP3hgql5FypaTItRBVJvUnF00/mq/1RGNKxWTblS7VF7VsMMILNNVnk5jjwsq1i1hoTRlScf0O+M83WGE85Ec6KoPf/Zl9W28qXfCV/Q0wyjfdTBnjHOJGKNYq1BbPTcd2kvW/s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 67426.70063.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <67426.70063.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:10:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: L0r38N8VM1nXERQpZSjenQZVk8Uf0I6gTDAmlHwbemdfFWV nblc645Qz4kwi27CgPEdnZmdb7EpPfg_6mHxyQI6EiBEVVdr0gpVL50b0pPh UFnsIHEkANuMA4acDET5MIRzCT_s3rgGFYIo9Dbjk.LhIqKmp7EKTMKrQBp1 H2KYA6.I7XYZ3WdDqo6Sae4.qPBnkp1_zEuDMKHnxxTuxxkEv.rN82DDm0ha EaRqGPaFmh4853LmwUCTwnbDAhOQpqgy0S0Lb_F7G3qs0HIeih4ELkR6rVTF So98bFx9zcxvPSycLuJ.CI3QIFUECa02bqRs2iiSb7n4V2VYVF8Si1UukbgA dm9ptxkIJ__5QzT.cq_N0ut7hQ.niqbwREIT_zjRGmbLJbd1JbgmlMcRFBPz nWepiP5eTs4m5KuY0cVdqU2WxK.JVaW5jfn4N4jTcHm.6saFNqoak42vwlj3 1974Vz9F7oYHHivK1kuM8gPtPRuk1rvOhU126wPfIIRZKQ8zWcV4RTPeVU_T M9JzXccaCb_xV4Zenm49pl4p4ddTdYcKL83M.fJJR1M5OHa_m4PEolwnszpu B8ExXiUFF_JWj4w-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with ) by smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Dec 2013 12:10:27 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Equivalence to cp -Ru : update References: <20131206195618.899fe8b4e89177f1bd331344@gmail.com> <20131206222407.8468245b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:12:58 -0000 On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 19:56:18 +0100, Daniel Patón wrote: > In Linux I used the following command in bash on an external USB disk: > cp -Ru * /media/BACKUP > Now in FreeBSD with csh the command cp is a little different. I asked about the same question some months ago, having used cp -Rpu in Linux (p preserves permissions). Best answer I got then was rsync. I see Polytropon's suggestion, cpdup, is much smaller. I find cpdup in FreeBSD ports but not NetBSD pkgsrc. I just found a reason why rsync might be preferable, just in the past few hours, from Bruce Hill on one Gentoo Linux emailing list (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org): There are reasons why rsync is better than cp. The best one IMO is that rysnc will not copy a corrupt file, while cp will. And rsync will tell you about the corrupt file. You have so many questions about rsync, and different opinions thrown at you. Why do you not read "man rsync" and learn about it? This man page is thorough, easy to read, and explains it's usage by examples. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 14:03:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5747A519 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17B661FCF for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-106-241.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.106.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6154E3D29C; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:03:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rB7E2tkx006877; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:02:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:02:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Subject: Re: Equivalence to cp -Ru : update Message-Id: <20131207150255.0faaa4d5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <67426.70063.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <20131206195618.899fe8b4e89177f1bd331344@gmail.com> <20131206222407.8468245b.freebsd@edvax.de> <67426.70063.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 14:03:18 -0000 On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:10:27 +0000 (UTC), Thomas Mueller wrote: > I find cpdup in FreeBSD ports but not NetBSD pkgsrc. > > I just found a reason why rsync might be preferable, just in the > past few hours, [...] It's no problem to prefer rsync over cpdup; rsync is much more portable (present on _many_ systems), so if you're searching for a method to achieve the same result by applying the same command on different systems, go with rsync. If you're just searching for a --update equivalent for Linux's cp, you can use cpdup _on FreeBSD_, as it is a very good program and can be used to construct many kinds of backup solutions. But as I said, rsync also can do this. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 14:03:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE49951D for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 855611FD4 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VpITP-0002V7-Se for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 06:03:11 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 06:03:11 -0800 (PST) From: Beeblebrox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1386424991855-5866649.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: Unbound in jail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 14:03:19 -0000 I'd like to try running unbound in a jail. Since chrooting will be irrelevant, I have set in unbound.conf (chroot: ""). Config file passes sanity test with unbound-checkconf. But I have several questions: 1. As testing, from host-proper: unbound -c /etc/unbound/unbound.conf gives below error if these are set in unbound.conf: (# so-rcvbuf: 4m, # so-sndbuf: 4m). Not necessary? unbound[9069:0] error: setsockopt(..., SO_RCVBUF, ...) failed: No buffer space available unbound[9069:0] fatal error: could not open ports 2. Since unbound does NOT get started/stopped as a service - as stated in man page (unbound -c/kill unbound.pid), unbound_enable=yes in /etc/rc.conf will most likely not work. How is that managed in jails? 3. unbound will be tasked to cache and serve the DNS requests from clients, but needs to use forward-addr parameter to forward the DNS query to a Tor-Socks jail. Failing a response from Tor, it needs to fall-back to dns/dnscrypt-proxy (which will run either in the DNS or TOR jail). MyQ: Does a simple forward-addr to the TOR jail IP work for the DNS query, or is a more complicated setup necessary? For the fall-back method using dnscrypt-proxy, I assume placing this in unbound.conf will work, if dnscrypt-proxy is placed in the same jail as unbound? forward-addr: forward-addr: 127.0.0.1@40 Thanks. ----- FreeBSD-11-current_amd64_root-on-zfs_RadeonKMS -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Unbound-in-jail-tp5866649.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 15:19:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECA54667 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 1und1.siccegge.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:198:200:500::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A885F13AF for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hepworth.siccegge.de ([2001:4dd0:ff00:8384::4] helo=hepworth) by 1und1.siccegge.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VpJfC-00063j-0X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:19:28 +0100 From: Christoph Egger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Privat User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:22:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87wqjgfzz1.fsf@anonymous.siccegge.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4dd0:ff00:8384::4 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: christoph@christoph-egger.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on 1und1.siccegge.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_05 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: pf blocking too much X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on 1und1.siccegge.de) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:19:40 -0000 Hi! I have a (unfortunately) somewhat complex PF setup dropping too much in the End. Baiscally there are 3 DSL links (tun{0..3}) and the FreeBSD routes traffic from the internal network through these links doing some load-balancing. Not very elegant setup, but it works. Now I'm trying to set up a 6in4 tunnel (HE.net). Creating the gif interface, routing usw and starting ping on the local network to some system outside I can see the outgoing traffic pass gif0, then the DSL/tun link and on the ping'ed system. However the returning traffic comes in through the DSL/tun and disappears before reaching the gif. (All according to tcpdump on the interfaces) Can someone help me figure out what goes wrong here? Thanks Christoph ################################################## ext_if_1=tun0 ext_if_2=tun1 ext_if_3=tun2 int_if=bce0 int_net="10.0.0.0/8" ext_gw_1="192.168.0.1" ext_gw_2="192.168.0.2" ext_gw_3="192.168.0.3" set limit states 20000 set ruleset-optimization basic set timeout src.track 3600 set block-policy return ############################################# # Activate NAT nat on $ext_if_1 from $int_net to any -> $ext_if_1 source-hash nat on $ext_if_2 from $int_net to any -> $ext_if_2 source-hash nat on $ext_if_3 from $int_net to any -> $ext_if_3 source-hash ######################################################## # IPv6 Tunnel # #pass in quick from 216.66.80.30 #pass out quick to 216.66.80.30 #pass quick on gif0 keep state #pass in quick from 2001:470:1f0a:102b::1 # #pass out quick on gif0 #pass quick on gif0 proto ipv6-icmp all keep state #pass quick on gif0 inet6 #pass quick on gif0 inet all #pass quick on gif0 inet6 proto ipv6-icmp all #pass out quick on gif0 inet6 all ########################################################## # Handle local stuff pass out quick on $int_if to $int_net pass in quick on $int_if from $int_net to $int_if ####################################################### # Load balancing to the DSL lanes pass in on $int_if route-to { ($ext_if_1 $ext_gw_1) ($ext_if_2 $ext_gw_2) ($ext_if_3 $ext_gw_3) } round-robin sticky-address ######################################################### # Handle stuff coming in on DSL pass in on $ext_if_1 reply-to ($ext_if_1 $ext_gw_1) keep state pass in on $ext_if_2 reply-to ($ext_if_2 $ext_gw_2) keep state pass in on $ext_if_3 reply-to ($ext_if_3 $ext_gw_3) keep state ##################################### # Deal with misdirected packages pass out on $ext_if_1 route-to ($ext_if_2 $ext_gw_2) from $ext_if_2 pass out on $ext_if_3 route-to ($ext_if_2 $ext_gw_2) from $ext_if_2 pass out on $ext_if_1 route-to ($ext_if_3 $ext_gw_3) from $ext_if_3 pass out on $ext_if_2 route-to ($ext_if_3 $ext_gw_3) from $ext_if_3 pass out on $ext_if_2 route-to ($ext_if_1 $ext_gw_1) from $ext_if_1 pass out on $ext_if_3 route-to ($ext_if_1 $ext_gw_1) from $ext_if_1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 15:29:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 047FF959 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a0i55.smtpcorp.com (a0i55.smtpcorp.com [64.131.95.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFA6B1479 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:29:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smtpcorp.com; s=a0_1; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=gXDEhIGDhX+6gkfwMXjmj4BrFZda6Qu+FykJarUAWuM=; b=YcVuySPSLLLF7xM5N2/mYN2f1ukUvnOKjHn4qFQfotvA3JUbUPpxBMwQw9hDqN+cc2zC+qfbqNObLtq3HNmGhy2oYWin3wWH9BVXh4AWxoTCHYq6VZ6vyfzpdvJS95CGsJn129W7HNbKz19RY8VSTcEiZh/I+I8ZyamoLU23RWQ=; From: Daniel Corbe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PAM Application Programming and Password prompts Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 18:29:07 +0300 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Smtpcorp-Track: 366785172.1.14829951 X-debug-m-data: member_id=10661 trim_headers=Received X-debug-m-user: D: 3807463 N:366785172 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:29:18 -0000 Hi, I hope this is the right place to ask programming related questions. I'm looking at the sample PAM application in the handbook and it appears straight-froward enough. But pam_authenticate() seems to emit its own password prompt and there seems to be no obvious way to simply feed it a plain text password. I'm manually collecting a password from the user. Can someone point me in the right direction? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 15:39:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD7CBBB3 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-x22b.google.com (mail-bk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 603BF1505 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id mz12so739657bkb.30 for ; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 07:39:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2G31fGerHkAsDU9pDuQMtZoDKL6+vMua/raX5WVxBNU=; b=g5ddRvLFbwdFfK7xjZ8XmUSC/jr7d0//AJClrfZHNtoqIKZzh6zfKUfMtwHKygs02d v2xNwZbJ+kp3GeIt3aEkFvWmr9zQrU21aQnmhd6kZKAFgc4OExda5p3XIXXBjhmO/rSP 6GHlXtLqYXENd3rpwxdTa5goE8TGscog8Pp4nfourZeUU8fJALxTvOksdJ1b+AXaI499 bjtiQZEgquVe1IVQ9TdGYm2akftbmlAue8AY1Wcb/O/Z2szupdsXj+QX1Un+9dWeD+8u qmAnYOwAeAuEHInjMVBG4lGyOdpV8iFnZ+Im9GB6QEvOc5bUdUMvkb0VnWleZSIryTTd m7Ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.122.1 with SMTP id j1mr3088171bkr.57.1386430796334; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 07:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.123.193 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 07:39:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 07:39:56 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PAM Application Programming and Password prompts From: Waitman Gobble To: Daniel Corbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:39:59 -0000 On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > Hi, > > I hope this is the right place to ask programming related questions. > > I'm looking at the sample PAM application in the handbook and it appears > straight-froward enough. > > But pam_authenticate() seems to emit its own password prompt and there > seems to be no obvious way to simply feed it a plain text password. > > I'm manually collecting a password from the user. > > Can someone point me in the right direction? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Take a look at the src for su in src/usr.bin/su/su.c ie, https://dx.burplex.com/src/usr.bin/su/su.c Also, here is a simple example of Qt authenticating with pam. https://github.com/creamy/qt-pam-example/blob/master/mainwindow.cpp -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 17:08:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C958AB4 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 17:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a0i55.smtpcorp.com (a0i55.smtpcorp.com [64.131.95.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B0B21A1A for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 17:08:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smtpcorp.com; s=a0_1; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=HTFOer5h9hJto3r0jbI3DfnZnr/SHwpR4fVJnEExNtk=; b=nlE8sM80Ng3rZyIBEfZ/PCjvhmkqTg15bEXmJA5HNQBJGoQyK1qF/wnYDazmNd7xhfBZeQIKaWs52FdSDBxN+ysjCdNF9oHW7ZkKx2FikltScXxqjQYrNsK1vW0xs00Ewf1DOivisEAcFRVTBx/78dE/swcV0ztRu2nQ7OwRdvg=; From: Daniel Corbe To: Waitman Gobble Subject: Re: PAM Application Programming and Password prompts References: Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:07:42 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Waitman Gobble's message of "Sat, 7 Dec 2013 07:39:56 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Smtpcorp-Track: 366817034.1.36917638 X-debug-m-data: member_id=10661 trim_headers=Received X-debug-m-user: D: 3807463 N:366817034 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:08:01 -0000 Waitman Gobble writes: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > Hi, > > I hope this is the right place to ask programming related questions. > > I'm looking at the sample PAM application in the handbook and it appears > straight-froward enough. > > But pam_authenticate() seems to emit its own password prompt and there > seems to be no obvious way to simply feed it a plain text password. > > I'm manually collecting a password from the user. > > Can someone point me in the right direction? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Take a look at the src for su in src/usr.bin/su/su.c > ie, > https://dx.burplex.com/src/usr.bin/su/su.c > > Also, here is a simple example of Qt authenticating with pam. > > https://github.com/creamy/qt-pam-example/blob/master/mainwindow.cpp > > -- > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > 510-830-7975 I think you answered my question with the second link. I need to look at pam_conv a little more closely. 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Socit en Commandite par Actions Registered office: 22-24 Boulevard Royal, L-2449 Luxemburg RCS Luxemburg B 118 349 PayPal Email ID PP059 References 1. http://www.rgacomponentes.com.br/images/update/subscribe.paypal.com-us.cgi-bin.webscr.cmd-login-submitdispatch.58858/ 2. http://www.rgacomponentes.com.br/images/update/subscribe.paypal.com-us.cgi-bin.webscr.cmd-login-submitdispatch.58858/ 3. https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/helpscr?cmd=_help&t=escalateTab 4. https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/helpweb?cmd=_help 5. https://www.paypal.com/uk/security From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 19:54:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C56FFC5F for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 19:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FBB1569 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 19:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50F5146B2E for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB7Jsao4057773 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB7JsZ4t057770 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120524201132.e11d5a0a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120524211218.65830131.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 14:54:36 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 19:54:36 -0000 I have two laptops (Dell and HP) and two work stations (Compaq and Gateway) none of which would allow switching ttys with FreeBSD 9.1 and Xorg 7.5.1. So I updated the Gateway to 9.2 and xorg 7.7. It works fine. Encouraged, I updated the HP laptop. Switching ttys on this machine results in a locked state where the system responds to nothing and the video degrades to noise similar to what you get running the wrong driver. Clearly there is more to getting this to work than is apparent at a surface level. I guess I have two questions. Is this something that is likely to ever be solved? And where is the problem: BIOS, O/S, Xorg?? With the systems I have now it is more important (to me) to go ahead and run with the latest versions, so my solution will be, "if it hurts, don't do it". Functionally I am no worse off than now, and I use these systems to preview updating production stuff. I am more than happy to test patches, supply information, or whatever, to advance a solution to this but what I am looking for here is just to understand what's going on. Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 20:15:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5691E378 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 20:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B73916D9 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 20:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAB1246B3C for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB7KF92a063559 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB7KF9lV063555 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to find an Xorg that will do tty switch Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:15:10 -0000 I have two laptops (Dell and HP) and two work stations (Compaq and Gateway) none of which would allow switching ttys with FreeBSD 9.1 and Xorg 7.5.1. So I updated the Gateway to 9.2 and xorg 7.7. It works fine. Encouraged, I updated the HP laptop. Switching ttys on this machine results in a locked state where the system responds to nothing and the video degrades to noise similar to what you get running the wrong driver. Clearly there is more to getting this to work than is apparent at a surface level. I guess I have two questions. Is this something that is likely to ever be solved? And where is the problem: BIOS, O/S, Xorg?? With the systems I have now it is more important (to me) to go ahead and run with the latest versions, so my solution will be, "if it hurts, don't do it". Functionally I am no worse off than now, and I use these systems to preview updating production stuff. I am more than happy to test patches, supply information, or whatever, to advance a solution to this but what I am looking for here is just to understand what's going on. Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 20:58:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6114DE7A for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 20:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qe0-x234.google.com (mail-qe0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FBFB18E2 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 20:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ne12so1664136qeb.11 for ; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:58:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=jWUQ9V1hti/7xf+RUUSkZoOOPetUJ3GPa0LBHmKJY9E=; b=oq9MZLUwCGeSa4gZTazgGfs/rrVMY20DyZqwe3ICTDngQ5KkxYKzY0MyMFJ4qGpRVE ifxUwzww/FL1moYfRYslMZhhNeSypPLxqdXeu9XsubPWW6I/vq0dcFlxIPZpIYA/0/Nj 5ZeNyXyV1Q4VIjlHUSoDDZgtZ38XjXto/2rld3HMaGStbwAi3AYZyuwgrNqzlZ59p99L rvgUEBBm7EsCkQz+gR9RdXz/LgD7KMFYz7KJNOcqxrhMD1coXZs84Z40pHtEMeiscHt2 BVG0ahPEYIMCnlMOPgBCUvA7OPH60zBQQHXFj+NC/8zoxUeMsSQVh6tA8yeu8VvqLvTj Cm9A== X-Received: by 10.49.86.199 with SMTP id r7mr19457129qez.23.1386449928318; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lumiwa.farms.net (pool-70-105-224-147.port.east.myfairpoint.net. [70.105.224.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g10sm11848526qaf.9.2013.12.07.12.58.46 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:58:47 -0800 (PST) From: Ajtim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: history -c Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:58:43 -0500 Message-ID: <2854541.JHmCkvYC4N@lumiwa.farms.net> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.3 (FreeBSD/10.0-BETA4; KDE/4.11.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:58:49 -0000 Hi! I am running FreeBSD 10.0-BETA4 (amd64). Shell for root is default csh and for user I have tcsh. If I use history -c it doesn't delete history. I think that before I didn't have this problem. Thanks in advance. -- Mitja ------- http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 21:23:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79E534BB for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 21:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x235.google.com (mail-we0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 127291A76 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 21:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x55so1976046wes.26 for ; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:23:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=V4hXf6mi1J7YCCQjLZSasFarmfms6ETHgk1ixKuGeqE=; b=W7ksyOeLFT48Vcl3Nl1pKzXesdN5JnMPi7EqexbdvUsASk0TLcyqp+23PAEgladi5v UUcgMwuUpXweL0L95AROljh+Gg85JEoP+xHaglXOWBr7b8lL+D9eQo/bnynmudXtBqWK GpUKR8AXm4eBFgS6RzN096s/XhMLgC3aV1tjTJLU1iMqWyWVPUbRb61pg9pog+IpRqyD hp8h/yO6j+o0G+XjtngQQLUmfYdXhXASXUiZ9ybuN6UG5LcPNZS0A9rhkZpkWYElYsPe roFcaQXkWOlE9PHlCRe9jiLYC3g/rcpwklsYBii1ZbeQDelyx5jC/W3z234YmBzYAt69 u/Pw== X-Received: by 10.194.1.139 with SMTP id 11mr9002781wjm.33.1386451437490; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x19sm8906850wia.5.2013.12.07.13.23.56 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:23:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 21:23:54 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find an Xorg that will do tty switch Message-ID: <20131207212354.5f8fa3cc@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 21:23:59 -0000 On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) doug wrote: > I have two laptops (Dell and HP) and two work stations (Compaq and > Gateway) none of which would allow switching ttys with FreeBSD 9.1 > and Xorg 7.5.1. So I updated the Gateway to 9.2 and xorg 7.7. It > works fine. > > Encouraged, I updated the HP laptop. Switching ttys on this machine > results in a locked state where the system responds to nothing and > the video degrades to noise similar to what you get running the wrong > driver. If you using Intel KMS it's a known problem that you can't switch to a virtual terminal once xorg is running - it hasn't been implemented yet AFAIK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 22:07:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E741BB0 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 22:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504FB1D79 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 22:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3312D46B2E; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB7LxJlV092717; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:59:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB7LxJ1m092714; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:59:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: doug To: RW Subject: Re: How to find an Xorg that will do tty switch In-Reply-To: <20131207212354.5f8fa3cc@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: References: <20131207212354.5f8fa3cc@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:59:20 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 22:07:55 -0000 On Sat, 7 Dec 2013, RW wrote: > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) > doug wrote: > >> I have two laptops (Dell and HP) and two work stations (Compaq and >> Gateway) none of which would allow switching ttys with FreeBSD 9.1 >> and Xorg 7.5.1. So I updated the Gateway to 9.2 and xorg 7.7. It >> works fine. >> >> Encouraged, I updated the HP laptop. Switching ttys on this machine >> results in a locked state where the system responds to nothing and >> the video degrades to noise similar to what you get running the wrong >> driver. > > If you using Intel KMS it's a known problem that you can't switch to a > virtual terminal once xorg is running - it hasn't been implemented yet > AFAIK. Ah - thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 23:06:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C40B3F3C for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 23:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-3.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-3.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B791065 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 23:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd.asgard.uk ([92.238.71.115]) by know-smtprelay-3-imp with bizsmtp id yn6L1m00a2VE8Jc01n6L1N; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:06:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [92.238.71.115] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=HNhNF+dv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:117 a=kgu37eZCuzjHC/BLjkfnNA==:17 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=g8DGSEr-gRIA:10 a=z6OmtuC8ihAA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U4kjxnpeAAAA:8 a=RIXHdJ6alCwA:10 a=vOxnJDo9JYcGHPkSP2MA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System reboots ~3am during daily periodic 450.status-security run Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 23:06:17 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201312012352.01075.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <201312050008.54995.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <20131205134142.3d6ad8d5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20131205134142.3d6ad8d5@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201312072306.18148.freebsd01@dgmm.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:06:28 -0000 On Thursday 05 December 2013 13:41:42 RW wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:08:54 +0000 > > dgmm wrote: > > On Tuesday 03 December 2013 23:55:44 Shane Ambler wrote: > > > On 03/12/2013 22:14, dgmm wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 03 December 2013 09:48:04 krad wrote: > > > >> or you could use the @reboot option, that would mean it always > > > >> runs at crons start, which may not be what you want, > > > > > > > > Yes, that was my first thought but the overheads at boot time > > > > might be inconvenient although I'll try it to find out. > > > > > > Or write a rc script to run it at shutdown? > > > > Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for. There's no downside. > > Be aware that shutdown runs under a timeout. Ah, I didn't know that. Although on reflection it's obvious really. > IIWY I'd install anacron, it a tiny binary, and it's designed for the > problem you have. I'll run any number of tasks with arbitrary > periodicity (in days), so it'll handle weekly and monthly scripts as > well. It uses locking so you can run it from rc.d, cron or manually > without having to worry about races. It can run it's tasks with > staggered delays or serialize them. Thanks.