From owner-svn-doc-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 01:11:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-doc-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF949C5; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 01:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (mail-wg0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AC7D48; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 01:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id dq12so1522264wgb.12 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:11:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=sh3WAgK8z/TFfQ815YlGVtfYXd8hrezBWZgtstem12c=; b=CENc4C8MPshjtZZb4nSXRDngFjBWKUT/MVzxiNCPAgR8oahjq9l3J+xSvgMd9n2vYS 0vedhQ0xSwh9A7c5cPWbv6ySzuwpaU53eHyrLtJRoFpQd9zeGgA62ioU5Bm38jNN4+iM mYIxAp2iX0IE5fGovCqadcF4RVny8FLlNHB6lNekOZHJp7sFYBVryX6b51JwBJfdX8Br pj1QuiHnOQxPxxnFhFmSOc3DqeW7sB88+2mLFG2fRBXqeMqh6MO++UFzYBDfdUvT6sy5 WNKJd8qBP3wqEu+UF8P5R2tHNsaj4mEDP78PIuwsJ7lcP1mHyD37xlYHsXDE/aj54oNO 7FfQ== X-Received: by 10.194.58.202 with SMTP id t10mr11378267wjq.4.1361668274705; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id du2sm6556163wib.0.2013.02.23.17.11.12 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:11:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:11:09 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: svn commit: r40985 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/projects Message-ID: <20130224011108.GB10994@saturn> References: <201302161636.r1GGaMOI055230@svn.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201302161636.r1GGaMOI055230@svn.freebsd.org> Cc: svn-doc-head@freebsd.org, svn-doc-all@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-doc-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire doc trees \(except for " user" , " projects" , and " translations" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 01:11:16 -0000 On 2013-02-16 16:36, Eitan Adler wrote: > Author: eadler > Date: Sat Feb 16 16:36:22 2013 > New Revision: 40985 > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/doc/40985 > > Log: > Remove ancient things. Slightly belated comments. I just caught up with doc-commit email though, so please bear with me. > Modified: head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/projects/newbies.xml > ============================================================================== > --- head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/projects/newbies.xml Sat Feb 16 16:36:19 2013 (r40984) > +++ head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/projects/newbies.xml Sat Feb 16 16:36:22 2013 (r40985) > @@ -78,13 +78,6 @@ > ppp page > for links to the other valuable information and the latest updates.

> > -

  • The > - Complete &os; by Greg Lehey, published by O'Reilly. > - This book assumes minimal UNIX experience and takes the > - beginner step by step through each stage from installation to > - everything you need to know to set up and run a &os; system. You > - also get to understand what you are doing and why.

    • This is still a book that is available online and may serve a useful purpose for people who are entirely new to BSD. Maybe we should have a section for 'historical documentation' and move this book there? > -

  • The main newsgroup for &os; is - href="news:comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc">comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc. > - You might want to keep an eye on - href="news:comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce">comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce > - as well.

    • I still use comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and it is moderately active. It doesn't have the traffic that it used to have a decade ago, but I think removing it altogether is a bit bad. For example here's what I saw this morning when I opened the group: ,----------------------------------------------------------------------- | . 2013-02-22 Andrew Falanga ( 0) Re: Trouble making an EFI System Partition on my USB thumb drive | . 2013-02-23 Torfinn Ingolfsen ( 11) ╰─▶ Re: Trouble making an EFI System Partition on my USB thumb drive | . 2013-02-22 Tim Daneliuk ( 50) [ANN]: ’tsshbatch’, Batch ssh Tool, Version 1.137 Released `------------------------------------------------------------------------ So there are still a few people who find the newsgroups useful. On the other hand maybe new users are now completely disconnected from Usenet and newsgroups and this is just me being an old-fart. I'm not entirely sure if I want to keep *all* references to Usenet groups. But seeing 'comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc' go made me a bit sad.