From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 17:49:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4F3C75A; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22b.google.com (mail-oa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 883482A82; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i7so6234671oag.2 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:49:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ptlbTxhVcJl4CjSOrkYHPELsmQY+2ROLuRIZzk6cyTE=; b=mrgPZvVef9ykhFmS/cJlUq1hgdLJWiwoKuior+IW0MCJ5JB0YZj4O3gX4/PO3WBb2c GLL0BaqhBR73cJW0lQrXnC40R6JAE80NQ8LpO70UJ4sugcsJu0LVPq4D22ZGV8Bg/Rmn sUohppA00Nhr94TJ61aLOUMArAUHgHPl1ka2bBrOc/cNAYN/p3CwjAhEyGSGSuje107o m+vtcNmxXx+nLK3MV4bEQTbVGQz9Uh0sd3aho2hM66+wsVgTiv5UJUiwKT+2ieS/RolK uV1/CCtnwfYe8qbhpG62XL6N1feN6tskDI9zvW/hP8g23PnpMkQiiG1Wltza3CzkwP8i 6Mcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.123.103 with SMTP id lz7mr30152761oeb.18.1405878574657; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.216.197 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:49:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96C72773-3239-427E-A90B-D05FF0F5B782@freebsd.org> References: <96C72773-3239-427E-A90B-D05FF0F5B782@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:49:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] ASLR Whitepaper and Candidate Final Patch From: Oliver Pinter To: Pedro Giffuni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: PaX Team , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Shawn Webb , Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:49:35 -0000 On 7/20/14, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > (Assuming @FreeBSD addresses are subscribed to arch, or check the archives) > > FWIW, > > The issues I pointed out are still standing: > > - It is yet undetermined what the performance effect will be, and it is not > clear (but seems likely from past measurements) if there will be a > performance hit even when ASLR is off. > -Apparently there are applications that will segfault (?). > > I wouldn't object to see it in the tree though: it has obviously been the > result of a lot of work and it is configurable and well integrated. It will > certainly have to be some time in the tree and undergo extensive testing > before turning it on by default though so it sounds reasonable to bring it > in but leave it initially inactive. > > Pedro. Probably pho@ has free time, to test ASLR changes?