From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 25 08:52:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08FBB8D9 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-x232.google.com (mail-pb0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C60DD1D7E for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id rq2so7782501pbb.23 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:52:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type; bh=9SFFJqDlmthfdCoCWjEteC3bo/yFCOh39ZVa/3pEVfU=; b=NkApFhl2QxKrsAIzpG4po6g6dwI8Bqc5Mt/lUoxSmf/796vZlt2nFM6remAqsV4pEG xmZlDtyrBnMBTRLkhkh5NWGNYx/raOXAywHHffxvmW+ZnIr00sNcwGoIup7xBVEJg6rW Ep/uvKEdmM+EJxHM2sq2KYHyBXCxiwAvEEx1I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type; bh=9SFFJqDlmthfdCoCWjEteC3bo/yFCOh39ZVa/3pEVfU=; b=l3d3VQGBCmZXaVic9FuXYahiMjzpynuy9JVKiAAxNAcg5IcMFVo14BshLnkcOcWS5e pmrEudESJgMQYhfBTjx9QbOqH7djpzRcwg1NYz8ZwVmP8wAsjCOpmb6wNEp44V0LBflg 4dwAWILyTdJSfDno8ghYduZBarjlIVfePhzB5lhnLQu1/HBexTtOHIlzb1T83YysWLIy 8xAfrSCiivOE6cKGgCBaV9UGK6ZWDcYzckaZ3L+NUrn6Re9tiL4jRP2gl12ztbaDt978 /C3XzvrjJDt98KOZzYICsR9IV1JwbNU38GH98UoZnc0niDGI3AvFGUGcnzGXYpXH6cm1 WmPg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnDVvZFhluJZolV4+QNukLWNAsWmtQh6KBS4i2ewXMb2+nTusRfXxhcDIVtLBKOmlyUNO7y X-Received: by 10.67.14.231 with SMTP id fj7mr244085pad.115.1393318368057; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hackintosh.wemm.org ([2601:9:e80:770:fc67:2b3f:6356:f0d8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ou9sm8091830pbc.30.2014.02.25.00.52.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:52:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 00:52:39 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Organization: World Domination in progress. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3HE5dgHTfNKl1nkhGUci5nipd9qdCufUQ" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:52:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --3HE5dgHTfNKl1nkhGUci5nipd9qdCufUQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We (with clusteradm@ hat on) have been looking at another round of broken= mirrors, delegated DNS servers that have gone lame/missing, subzones that= have gone missing. wwwN.freebsd.org / wwwN.cc.freebsd.org that now point = to Ubuntu or Microsoft IIS pages, stale/missing ftp mirrors etc. (by "cc" I mean country codes - "us", "eu", "au", "ru", etc.. I am not picking on anyone in particular) One of the problems we've been hitting is that *.cc.freebsd.org was originally set outside of the core project infrastructure. When they go stale and the volunteers who originally set it up go missing, the data simply disappears and is lost. In retrospect, this was a mistake. As things stand today, more than half of the original *.cc.freebsd.org subzones have been lost. An uncomfortable number of the remaining record= s are tragically stale. There's also the DNSSEC and ipv6 reachability question. Many of our cc.freebsd.org zones are ipv4-only and only one has DNSSEC signatures. The question of what to do about it have come up many times inside clusteradm@/dnsadm@ and ideas have bounced around ranging from extremes l= ike simply abandoning the whole *.cc.freebsd.org idea, through just taking th= em back, or simply letting them die and quietly deleting them when they go = stale. I'm leaning towards a middle ground. My preferred option at this point i= s to take the zones back so that we have a copy of the data within the core= infrastructure, and switch to a regional coordinator model. We kind of already have this, except when current regional coordinators move on, we tend to lose the data. What I'm talking about is something like this.. As they stand now, in the parent dns zone: ; zone cc email for MIA april 2008, data lost ; zone cc email for email bouncing may 2012 ; zone cc current contact is cc.freebsd.org. IN NS someserver1.cc. cc.freebsd.org. IN NS someserver2.cc. And after such a change, it'd be email alias: coordinator-cc@freebsd.org: somebody@somedomain.cc =2E. and we host the records inside the freebsd.org zone. This coordinat= or will directly arrange with dnsadm@ to update the records in their area. They would receive commit messages when records in their area were update= d, and be reachable via coordinator-cc@freebsd.org. We (freebsd.org) use ISC's global anycasted ISC-SNS dns servers. In our experience they have excellent coverage around the world so we'd prefer t= o fold the *.cc.freebsd.org zone into the main freebsd.org zone (like wwwN.us.freebsd.org and ftpN.us.freebsd.org are right now). Actual sub-zones could be done if there's a regional reachability problem but I would rather not unless we absolutely had to. Advantages: * We get better continuity and handovers if/when people want to move on.= * In theory, we should never lose zone data, contact addresses again. * We still get local regional knowledge and coordination. * 100% DNSSEC coverage and IPV6 connectivity. Disadvantages: * There has been resistance and hurt feelings when ideas like this have come up in the past. * Loss of independence. * There are residual bad memories from when working with dnsadm@ was rea= lly painful and slow. (I assure you, this is no longer a problem!) Ideally this would be done zone by zone, by contacting the current coordinator for obtaining the current zone source, setting up email alias= es, and adopting it into ns0.freebsd.org/ISC-SNS. If we can do it this way then we get to preserve notes, comments, history= etc. On the other hand, doing a blind zone transfer or scraping/iteratin= g through likely records and documented mirrors is far less satisfactory an= d practically begging for hurt feelings. We even have a number of zones where we have *no working contact address*= for the current operator. I'm sure we can track them down eventually but= it doesn't look good if we have to resort to asking on public mailing lists questions like "Does anyone know who runs yy.freebsd.org?" Thoughts? How can we make this work without provoking (too many) ruffled= feathers? --=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6F= JV UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do. --3HE5dgHTfNKl1nkhGUci5nipd9qdCufUQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMMWdwACgkQFRKuUnJ3cX+ZegCeNWPIQAXjxW0lGFX01nWPLN2f CCwAnRegXhjoaswlqIO+LWQVTKl7Wz0K =KBJF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3HE5dgHTfNKl1nkhGUci5nipd9qdCufUQ-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 25 20:52:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97655C54 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp2.macomnet.net (ipv6.irc.int.ru [IPv6:2a02:28:1:2::1b:2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 073C91803 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp2.macomnet.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1PKqIjq051167; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 00:52:19 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from maxim.konovalov@gmail.com) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 00:52:18 +0400 (MSK) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. In-Reply-To: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> Message-ID: References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:52:22 -0000 On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, 00:52-0800, Peter Wemm wrote: [...] > I'm leaning towards a middle ground. My preferred option at this point is > to take the zones back so that we have a copy of the data within the core > infrastructure, and switch to a regional coordinator model. We kind of > already have this, except when current regional coordinators move on, we > tend to lose the data. > [...] > Thoughts? Go ahead. -- Maxim Konovalov From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 26 15:36:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A64793F for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (kazi6.fit.vutbr.cz [IPv6:2001:67c:1220:808::93e5:80c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A12671687 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s1QFaMdb048900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:36:22 +0100 (CET) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (8.14.7/8.14.5/Submit) id s1QFaKs2048892; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:36:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: kazi.fit.vutbr.cz: cejkar set sender to cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz using -f Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:36:20 +0100 From: Cejka Rudolf To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Message-ID: <20140226153620.GA42373@fit.vutbr.cz> References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 147.229.8.12 Cc: hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:36:26 -0000 Maxim Konovalov wrote (2014/02/26): > On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, 00:52-0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > [...] > > I'm leaning towards a middle ground. My preferred option at this point is > > to take the zones back so that we have a copy of the data within the core > > infrastructure, and switch to a regional coordinator model. We kind of > > already have this, except when current regional coordinators move on, we > > tend to lose the data. > > > [...] > > Thoughts? > > Go ahead. Yes. I always wondered (and did not uderstand) why You, responsible for freebsd.org domain, delegate *.freebsd.org subdomains to Others, responsible for almost nothing(?). -- Rudolf Cejka http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 26 15:37:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 316F199A for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from batman.home4u.ch (batman.home4u.ch [IPv6:2001:8a8:1005:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DF0B169E for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:37:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at home4u.ch Received: from flashback.wenks.ch (fabian@flashback.wenks.ch [IPv6:2001:8a8:1005:1::4]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.home4u.ch (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1QFbaw1012714 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:37:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fabian@wenks.ch) Message-ID: <530E0A40.3030103@wenks.ch> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:37:36 +0100 From: Fabian Wenk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:37:40 -0000 Hello Peter On 25.02.14 09:52, Peter Wemm wrote: > We (freebsd.org) use ISC's global anycasted ISC-SNS dns servers. In our > experience they have excellent coverage around the world so we'd prefer to > fold the *.cc.freebsd.org zone into the main freebsd.org zone (like > wwwN.us.freebsd.org and ftpN.us.freebsd.org are right now). Actual > sub-zones could be done if there's a regional reachability problem but I > would rather not unless we absolutely had to. In the end this is the right thing to do. Even if there are two different points of view, even from myself. One is from me as the ch.freebsd.org DNS zone operator, which I am proud of doing it for the FreeBSD project. But as it can be seen in [1], I also have some unresolved challenges. I even did forward this to cvsup-master@ in December without any answer yet. As I put workarounds in place, it is not critical, but also not a nice and permanent solution. [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hubs/2013-October/002699.html And the other one is from me as a FreeBSD user depending and trusting into the project infrastructure (which also includes the cc.freebsd.org DNS zones and severs) and the people who operate it. In retrospect to how easy it was to become the operator of the ch.freebsd.org DNS zone (it was handed over to me from a friend who run it before), this also worries me. If I would e.g. point DNS entries to rogue servers, I could probably cause some damage to users using it. This is something which I will never do, as in the end this would hurt my own reputation. So I support the decision that the FreeBSD project itself should operate the cc DNS zones on their own infrastructure. I think the argument about regional reachability can probably be ignored, because if a regional resolving DNS server does not already know on which DNS server e.g. the ch.freebsd.org DNS zone is, it still needs to resolve this through the root and then the freebsd.org DNS servers. bye Fabian From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 26 21:22:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38E5F10C for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0420D1D67 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id at1so1242633iec.20 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:22:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FsnnuF/DtezC1XWdrbnUu7H/nFx4E90++Oadt3TnhWQ=; b=ELVnrMGvEK+birbdPDGurzzFJojJuG4DJGoc3pZ3xjWYRjkHZ0r8RvPLSu9EpTbYAM t/m9U16EcBh58S+IyuTIJ7GT9Z1iq6NIQ5dP6rjMlWlTcZxuvi5a2na6tULf2p5j55IO d3huWDFXwadlOMXmZAOiQNHqSSbYrSaJX5uJdE+BBobpMMCGK3ZySCl7CSDkO78vQ+s0 MN/nshEewXrRbnhB4rx0L2GhMiswcQYVGjtAh8gU4V0ZlEPGdunZyI/AMyCd+pvbswaz Y1qp+JHvfFmCOw74/+k6dUbrC/g3rG5W6yAN7PlP6eDZKpVhQlq9Ep+Llseu/r5UVxDs /DPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.61.4 with SMTP id s4mr1679130ich.58.1393449771459; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.227.133 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:22:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:22:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. From: Will Mitayai Rowe To: Peter Wemm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:22:52 -0000 I've been honoured to have the responsibility of maintaining a CC domain for many years, but i can see the value in central management and have no arguments against Peter's proposal -Mit On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: > We (with clusteradm@ hat on) have been looking at another round of broken > mirrors, delegated DNS servers that have gone lame/missing, subzones that > have gone missing. wwwN.freebsd.org / wwwN.cc.freebsd.org that now point > to > Ubuntu or Microsoft IIS pages, stale/missing ftp mirrors etc. > > (by "cc" I mean country codes - "us", "eu", "au", "ru", etc.. I am not > picking on anyone in particular) > > One of the problems we've been hitting is that *.cc.freebsd.org was > originally set outside of the core project infrastructure. When they go > stale and the volunteers who originally set it up go missing, the data > simply disappears and is lost. In retrospect, this was a mistake. > > As things stand today, more than half of the original *.cc.freebsd.org > subzones have been lost. An uncomfortable number of the remaining records > are tragically stale. > > There's also the DNSSEC and ipv6 reachability question. Many of our > cc.freebsd.org zones are ipv4-only and only one has DNSSEC signatures. > > The question of what to do about it have come up many times inside > clusteradm@/dnsadm@ and ideas have bounced around ranging from extremes > like > simply abandoning the whole *.cc.freebsd.org idea, through just taking > them > back, or simply letting them die and quietly deleting them when they go > stale. > > I'm leaning towards a middle ground. My preferred option at this point is > to take the zones back so that we have a copy of the data within the core > infrastructure, and switch to a regional coordinator model. We kind of > already have this, except when current regional coordinators move on, we > tend to lose the data. > > What I'm talking about is something like this.. > > As they stand now, in the parent dns zone: > ; zone cc email for MIA april 2008, data lost > ; zone cc email for email bouncing may 2012 > ; zone cc current contact is > cc.freebsd.org. IN NS someserver1.cc. > cc.freebsd.org. IN NS someserver2.cc. > > And after such a change, it'd be email alias: > coordinator-cc@freebsd.org: somebody@somedomain.cc > > .. and we host the records inside the freebsd.org zone. This coordinator > will directly arrange with dnsadm@ to update the records in their area. > They would receive commit messages when records in their area were updated, > and be reachable via coordinator-cc@freebsd.org. > > We (freebsd.org) use ISC's global anycasted ISC-SNS dns servers. In our > experience they have excellent coverage around the world so we'd prefer to > fold the *.cc.freebsd.org zone into the main freebsd.org zone (like > wwwN.us.freebsd.org and ftpN.us.freebsd.org are right now). Actual > sub-zones could be done if there's a regional reachability problem but I > would rather not unless we absolutely had to. > > Advantages: > * We get better continuity and handovers if/when people want to move on. > * In theory, we should never lose zone data, contact addresses again. > * We still get local regional knowledge and coordination. > * 100% DNSSEC coverage and IPV6 connectivity. > > Disadvantages: > * There has been resistance and hurt feelings when ideas like this have > come up in the past. > * Loss of independence. > * There are residual bad memories from when working with dnsadm@ was > really > painful and slow. (I assure you, this is no longer a problem!) > > Ideally this would be done zone by zone, by contacting the current > coordinator for obtaining the current zone source, setting up email > aliases, > and adopting it into ns0.freebsd.org/ISC-SNS. > > If we can do it this way then we get to preserve notes, comments, history > etc. On the other hand, doing a blind zone transfer or scraping/iterating > through likely records and documented mirrors is far less satisfactory and > practically begging for hurt feelings. > > We even have a number of zones where we have *no working contact address* > for the current operator. I'm sure we can track them down eventually but > it > doesn't look good if we have to resort to asking on public mailing lists > questions like "Does anyone know who runs yy.freebsd.org?" > > Thoughts? How can we make this work without provoking (too many) ruffled > feathers? > > -- > Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; > KI6FJV > UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do. > > -- Mit Rowe Toronto, Canada mitayai@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 04:08:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20AB1F19 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.riverwillow.net.au (mail1.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:1801::36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3A12F3 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au (rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:18e1:20c:76ff:fe0a:2117]) (authenticated bits=56) by mail1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s233bg58058992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:37:45 +1100 (AEDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=riverwillow.com.au; s=m1001; t=1393817866; bh=JhVx1kp8Am5dDww35H/RLxUk+4vZHwj2EiQEEdZ3chk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=cKZQ89+97B95NnO1eMRezgvd0LTQGA8mUUc1QmBrQBqOKXtK3m67EyVVMUxm91B4X l0eqNT8ZgidMnrmHmJuSDQzqdlrifIgGgi7SEjVWBQgT/RKJef9dGBL++6GKcewYhj /hOonhYypcd4yFb0lWyJcwHecJYOhNni6cWNc94w= Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:37:42 +1100 From: John Marshall To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Message-ID: <20140303033742.GC1429@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.com.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 04:08:05 -0000 --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NB: I have not discussed this with hostmaster@au. The opinions below are my own as an active NS/www/cvsup mirror operator of 7 years' standing. On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, 00:52 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > We (with clusteradm@ hat on) have been looking at another round of broken > mirrors, delegated DNS servers that have gone lame/missing, subzones that > have gone missing. wwwN.freebsd.org / wwwN.cc.freebsd.org that now point = to > Ubuntu or Microsoft IIS pages, stale/missing ftp mirrors etc. Thanks for this email Peter. It's helpful. You start by citing broken mirrors as a catalyst for your proposal and then offer a proposal which only touches DNS. Given that the cc zones exist primarily for the purpose of supporting the regional mirror infrastructure I don't think it makes sense to try to deal with the issues separately: it makes the solution more complex (regional co-ordinators) and prolongs the pain. > There's also the DNSSEC and ipv6 reachability question. Many of our > cc.freebsd.org zones are ipv4-only and only one has DNSSEC signatures. I know you're not singling anybody out but, just for the record, au.FreeBSD.org asked 9 months ago if we could sign our zone and send you DS records for DNSSEC delegation. There's no point signing the cc zone if we can't get delegation and, as far as I know, we never got an answer on that. Also, we have NS and www/ftp mirror coverage on IPv6. =2E..but never mind about any of that now. > The question of what to do about it have come up many times inside > clusteradm@/dnsadm@ and ideas have bounced around ranging from extremes l= ike > simply abandoning the whole *.cc.freebsd.org idea, through just taking th= em > back, or simply letting them die and quietly deleting them when they go = stale. >=20 > I'm leaning towards a middle ground. My preferred option at this point is > to take the zones back so that we have a copy of the data within the core > infrastructure, and switch to a regional coordinator model. We kind of > already have this, except when current regional coordinators move on, we > tend to lose the data. I actually think the middle-ground approach is inefficient and simply prolonging the agony/problem. All it does, really, is pull back the cc zones (with history, which is a good thing) but leaves the rest of the problem out there for even longer. > We (freebsd.org) use ISC's global anycasted ISC-SNS dns servers. In our > experience they have excellent coverage around the world so we'd prefer to > fold the *.cc.freebsd.org zone into the main freebsd.org zone (like > wwwN.us.freebsd.org and ftpN.us.freebsd.org are right now). Actual > sub-zones could be done if there's a regional reachability problem but I > would rather not unless we absolutely had to. The ISC-SNS servers are, at best, ~200ms from Australia; but that is better than we could expect from anything else inter-continental. > Thoughts? How can we make this work without provoking (too many) ruffled > feathers? Ruffled feathers and hurt feelings happen when folks are ignored or trampled underfoot after years of devoting their time and resources to help the Project. An announcement (e.g. to freebsd-announce@) outlining the new method of regional dissemination of the former regional mirror content, which starts with an acknowledgement of all that's been done by volunteers up until this point, and thanks them, would probably be a big help. For me, the hurt feelings thing happened back in August 2012 when we realized there were new "plans" and we weren't allowed to go ahead and provide an official regional svn mirror; but I think that was mostly attributable to the fact that there had been no hint of any change in policy until after we deployed that mirror. Since learning about the policy change, the only painful thing has been waiting for it to happen; where "it" is all of the distribution being pulled back onto Project-managed infrastructure. Being the operator of the only CVSup mirror in the region, we have felt obliged to keep going, notwithstanding the greatly diminished use and value of the CVSup service since CVS-SVN migration. I'd really like to be told that the Project is managing all of this now and we don't need to do it anymore. I know that portsnap.FreeBSD.org has, for quite some time now, been resolving to a local AWS EC2 instance in Sydney: I imagine that folks who use portsnap would really appreciate that. I keep looking to see if local svn, ftp or other services have appeared. I think it would be helpful to have the nearest official content distribution servers pointed to by .FreeBSD.org domain names. I'm hoping that might be where things are heading; or will we just be doing geolocation magic with .FreeBSD.org? Thank you clusteradm@, dsnadm@, and all involved in this infrastructure planning and deployment. I really hope that we can get new stuff in place soon and move on. --=20 John Marshall --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlMT+QYACgkQw/tAaKKahKIH5ACfaHcvzYx9Blh4rXGTti70dawd OzoAnRcYo/Usfoes5ox8Yac3P9xRs5zj =DVvL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 04:21:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0335319C for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:500:60::65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B713C3CA for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmx1.isc.org (zmx1.isc.org [149.20.0.20]) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFE72383F8; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plosher@isc.org) Received: from zmx1.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmx1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644A5160058; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.42.14] (nat.sql1.plosh.net [50.78.109.150]) by zmx1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EC79160053; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 04:22:32 +0000 (UTC) From: "Peter Losher" To: "John Marshall" Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 20:20:52 -0800 Message-ID: <6C6F05BA-7BE5-43F6-96D1-FA184ACBF28B@isc.org> In-Reply-To: <20140303033742.GC1429@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> <20140303033742.GC1429@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_MailMate_D4B40F6C-0794-4A03-88E9-5E26938E5BEF_="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailer: MailMate (1.7.2r3905) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, MARKETING_PARTNERS, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mx.ams1.isc.org Cc: hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 04:21:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 3156 and 4880). --=_MailMate_D4B40F6C-0794-4A03-88E9-5E26938E5BEF_= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2 Mar 2014, at 19:37, John Marshall wrote: >> We (freebsd.org) use ISC's global anycasted ISC-SNS dns servers. In o= ur >> experience they have excellent coverage around the world so we'd prefe= r to >> fold the *.cc.freebsd.org zone into the main freebsd.org zone (like >> wwwN.us.freebsd.org and ftpN.us.freebsd.org are right now). Actual >> sub-zones could be done if there's a regional reachability problem but= I >> would rather not unless we absolutely had to. > > The ISC-SNS servers are, at best, ~200ms from Australia; but that is > better than we could expect from anything else inter-continental. FWIW, we (ISC) do have SNS DNS nodes via one of our network partners (ns3= =2Eisc-sns.info) in Hong Kong and Singapore so they are in region, but it= 's dependent on the routing table and your ISP's peering arrangements. F= or example Telstra routes it all back to the US; Optus, Vocus & AAPT amon= g others routes it to the Asian nodes. = YMMV. (I'll save folks the peering politics lecture) Best Wishes - Peter -- = [ plosher@isc.org | Senior Operations Architect | ISC | PGP E8048D08 ] --=_MailMate_D4B40F6C-0794-4A03-88E9-5E26938E5BEF_= Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlMUAyQACgkQPtVx9OgEjQgaVQCg0kafiDQbmNdulJ4us5uSYOh1 aBkAnib5LXeDx9096ze2x0gwW/UymniZ =+LsE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_MailMate_D4B40F6C-0794-4A03-88E9-5E26938E5BEF_=-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 3 05:21:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46EDD778 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 05:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.riverwillow.net.au (mail1.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:1801::36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4196DA05 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 05:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au (rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:18e1:20c:76ff:fe0a:2117]) (authenticated bits=56) by mail1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s235LC3k064407 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 3 Mar 2014 16:21:14 +1100 (AEDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=riverwillow.com.au; s=m1001; t=1393824075; bh=YaVoTj2szcFqZBDGAj5jzGmmcLw0tS9GPSr2p62Lkog=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=yPLwKqlx5xAblN9P0CX/RBLfwvV6BppwANlFpuhMJWjmhboyhIxq60F+HOF2Qzskm njPsyxApclFm4YDOxzRPjvKpEWBjoN15qVDbJqflylhvhMBWsGTj5ugJ7Wyo/dSwwL XWggmjcGGeW3kBZqtcywuXY3sewyYlrmlxzpCbeA= Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 16:21:12 +1100 From: John Marshall To: Peter Losher Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Message-ID: <20140303052112.GD1429@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> <20140303033742.GC1429@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <6C6F05BA-7BE5-43F6-96D1-FA184ACBF28B@isc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="veXX9dWIonWZEC6h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6C6F05BA-7BE5-43F6-96D1-FA184ACBF28B@isc.org> OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.com.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 05:21:55 -0000 --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 02 Mar 2014, 20:20 -0800, Peter Losher wrote: > On 2 Mar 2014, at 19:37, John Marshall wrote: >=20 > >> We (freebsd.org) use ISC's global anycasted ISC-SNS dns servers. In o= ur > >> experience they have excellent coverage around the world so we'd prefe= r to > >> fold the *.cc.freebsd.org zone into the main freebsd.org zone (like > >> wwwN.us.freebsd.org and ftpN.us.freebsd.org are right now). Actual > >> sub-zones could be done if there's a regional reachability problem but= I > >> would rather not unless we absolutely had to. > > > > The ISC-SNS servers are, at best, ~200ms from Australia; but that is > > better than we could expect from anything else inter-continental. >=20 > FWIW, we (ISC) do have SNS DNS nodes via one of our network partners (ns3= =2Eisc-sns.info) in Hong Kong and Singapore so they are in region, but it's= dependent on the routing table and your ISP's peering arrangements. For e= xample Telstra routes it all back to the US; Optus, Vocus & AAPT among othe= rs routes it to the Asian nodes. =20 >=20 > YMMV. (I'll save folks the peering politics lecture) Thank you, Peter, for that helpful additional information. While it is true that the Mileage May Vary, it doesn't make much of a difference to the network latency. I did some objective digging based upon your information and here are some real numbers showing the final two hops of traceroutes to each of the three isc-sns nodes. =46rom a Telstra-connected host in NSW AU --------------------------------------- IPv4 ---- 11 10ge1-4.core1.sjc1.he.net (72.52.92.117) 181.823 ms 187.290 ms 181.8= 16 ms 12 ns1.isc-sns.net (72.52.71.1) 182.271 ms * 182.590 ms 12 vl3512.na11.b002695-3.lax07.atlas.cogentco.com (38.20.46.42) 213.522 ms 13 ns2.isc-sns.com (38.103.2.1) 212.224 ms 210.093 ms 210.344 ms 10 if-4-28.tcore2.LVW-Los-Angeles.as6453.net (216.6.84.53) 210.467 ms * * 11 ns3.isc-sns.info (63.243.194.1) 202.985 ms 204.370 ms 201.820 ms IPv6 ---- 11 10ge1-4.core1.sjc1.he.net 216.824 ms 226.081 ms 221.686 ms 12 ns1.isc-sns.net 217.777 ms 218.074 ms 219.732 ms 8 if-xe-8-2-2.0.tcore1.TV2-Tokyo.ipv6.as6453.net 151.741 ms 151.809 ms = 169.409 ms 9 2405:2000:400::5 177.701 ms 180.904 ms 177.386 ms 10 ns3.isc-sns.info 179.070 ms 177.514 ms 177.479 ms =46rom a VOCUS-connected host in QLD AU ------------------------------------- IPv4 ---- 13 10ge1-4.core1.sjc1.he.net (72.52.92.117) 168.504 ms 168.319 ms 170.7= 62 ms 14 ns1.isc-sns.net (72.52.71.1) 169.328 ms 168.419 ms 168.905 ms 14 vl3812.na11.b002695-3.lax07.atlas.cogentco.com (38.20.46.50) 182.269 ms 15 ns2.isc-sns.com (38.103.2.1) 180.041 ms 180.140 ms 180.148 ms 14 if-3-2.tcore1.HK2-Hong-Kong.as6453.net (180.87.112.5) 150.309 ms 150.= 212 ms 149.295 ms 15 ns3.isc-sns.info (63.243.194.1) 150.134 ms 151.653 ms 162.848 ms IPv6 ---- 10 10ge1-4.core1.sjc1.he.net 176.160 ms 187.304 ms 176.597 ms 11 ns1.isc-sns.net 176.439 ms 176.228 ms 176.412 ms 9 globeinternet-as6453.gigabitethernet3-19.core1.lax1.he.net 176.537 ms = 176.178 ms 176.355 ms 10 ns3.isc-sns.info 176.813 ms 176.450 ms 176.454 ms There seems to be a common global misconception that Asian countries are somehow "in region" for Australia, New Zealand and the South Pacific. That is certainly not the case with respect to the Internet. Given a choice between using a mirror in Singapore and a mirror in San Francisco, I would pick the San Francisco option. The plumbing between here and the USA yields better results. --=20 John Marshall --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlMUEUgACgkQw/tAaKKahKLEYACdELmmprZPbnTbZd/cwxD3/zds BE4AoI0s3jySFN0N0hJ4WAKuytdS/hEH =+9vF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 07:54:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 451B4207 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 07:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vodnik.dkm.cz (vodnik.dkm.cz [IPv6:2a02:8301:0:1::dead:face]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 011C1753 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 07:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vodnik.dkm.cz (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 942CF1961E36; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:54:39 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on vodnik.dkm.cz Received: from neptune.request.cz (unknown [188.175.113.226]) by vodnik.dkm.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92B8E19604A8 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:54:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.5.114] (unknown [212.79.111.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: fox@murder.cz) by neptune.request.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72D9A20A6C48 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:54:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <532012C4.6020809@zvala.cz> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:54:44 +0100 From: Tomas Zvala User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UNS: distfiles stale? References: <52F12A4C.5000403@zvala.cz> <21233.48499.310809.81557@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <21233.48499.310809.81557@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 07:54:54 -0000 Hello, I do not mean to be PITA, but is anyone looking into this? Tomas btw. kind of curious - are distfiles from 1989 still of any use? :) On 5.2.2014 5:26, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> I've just noticed, that distfiles directory (which I quite liked) got >> stale on 16-Sep-2013 20:15 on master and all mirrors. Is that >> intentional, or something worth fixing? Can't seem to find any >> information on this feature being discontinued. > It *has* to be fixed for GPL compliance. > > -GAWollman > > From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 13:56:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C503CE49 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx11.hns.net.in (123-108-224-38.bb.hns.net.in [123.108.224.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DD37AB8 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from RBMAC01.local (ldap01.hnsdc.com [111.91.91.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ripunjay@hns.net.in) by mx11.hns.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C63BA34075C for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 19:26:34 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <5321B912.10208@hns.net.in> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 19:26:34 +0530 From: Ripunjay Bararia Organization: Honesty Net Solutions (I) Pvt Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Mirror in India. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HNSIPL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-HNSIPL-MailScanner-ID: C63BA34075C.AD3B6 X-HNSIPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HNSIPL-MailScanner-From: ripunjay@hns.net.in X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:56:57 -0000 Hi All, Are official mirrors being accepted for India? -- regards, Ripunjay Bararia Director - Technical Honesty Net Solutions (I) Pvt Ltd M: +91-9820336421 E: ripunjay@hns.net.in From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 18 23:53:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62064296 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from offratel.net (ct-mc-01.lagoon.nc [202.22.156.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F13C97 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw-tech.lagoon.nc ([202.22.158.100] helo=Exchange-CAS.lagoon.intranet) by offratel.net stage1 with esmtps (Exim MailCleaner) id 1WQ3od-0003zz-Dd for from ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:53:03 +1100 Received: from EXCHANGE-CAS.lagoon.intranet ([fe80::c1dc:9a64:deca:7f11]) by Exchange-CAS.lagoon.intranet ([fe80::c1dc:9a64:deca:7f11%10]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:53:03 +1100 X-MailCleaner-SPF: fail From: Service L3 To: "freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org" Subject: New Mirror Thread-Topic: New Mirror Thread-Index: Ac9DBSDgh2RM+GEeTg6A80fjgVEcVg== Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:53:02 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.60] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 23:53:13 -0000 Hi, I know it says you don't want to add new mirror on the FAQ page but we don'= t have any mirror in our country, so I'm trying. We are located in new Caledonia, Oceania, and have 1 Gbits Link. Mirror can be reached via : (http|ftp|rsync)://mirror.lagoon.nc/pub/freebsd= / Contact address : tech@offratel.net We sync every 6 hours from ftp3.au.freebsd.org I hope you would consider adding us to the list of mirrors. 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Hi All, Are official mirrors being accepted for India? --=20 regards, Ripunjay Bararia Director - Technical Honesty Net Solutions (I) Pvt Ltd M: +91-9820336421 E: ripunjay@hns.net.in _______________________________________________ freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hubs To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hubs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 24 18:01:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28E54F28 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from babel.karthauser.co.uk (212-13-197-151.karthauser.co.uk [212.13.197.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABF8660 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.20.10.2] (dab-ntm1-h-72-10.dab.02.net [82.132.231.237]) (Authenticated sender: joemail@tao.org.uk) by babel.karthauser.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 031DBD2A; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Dr Josef Karthauser In-Reply-To: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:51:16 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> To: Peter Wemm X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:01:07 -0000 On 25 Feb 2014, at 08:52, Peter Wemm wrote: > We (with clusteradm@ hat on) have been looking at another round of = broken > mirrors, delegated DNS servers that have gone lame/missing, subzones = that > have gone missing. wwwN.freebsd.org / wwwN.cc.freebsd.org that now = point to > Ubuntu or Microsoft IIS pages, stale/missing ftp mirrors etc. >=20 > [cut] >=20 > We (freebsd.org) use ISC's global anycasted ISC-SNS dns servers. In = our > experience they have excellent coverage around the world so we'd = prefer to > fold the *.cc.freebsd.org zone into the main freebsd.org zone (like > wwwN.us.freebsd.org and ftpN.us.freebsd.org are right now). Actual > sub-zones could be done if there's a regional reachability problem but = I > would rather not unless we absolutely had to. >=20 > [cut] >=20 > Disadvantages: > * There has been resistance and hurt feelings when ideas like this = have > come up in the past. > * Loss of independence. > * There are residual bad memories from when working with dnsadm@ was = really > painful and slow. (I assure you, this is no longer a problem!) >=20 > [cut] >=20 > Thoughts? How can we make this work without provoking (too many) = ruffled > feathers? Hey Peter, Sorry for taking a while to respond. This seems like an eminently sensible idea. Although there's some pride = here in owning part of the FreeBSD infrastructure, we were the first = source mirror outside of the USA in uk. and have been in service for = donkeys years, the simple truth is that mirror support has crumbled and = I always find myself reaching for a top level FreeBSD.org server when I = want an update. I think that the Internet has changed since those early = days of next to no or expensive bandwidth, and the need for local = infrastructure has pretty much gone (with perhaps the exception of some = remote localities). I'm in favour of passing uk.freeBSD.org back to central administration - = I think that we boil down to just a single FTP mirror these days anyway; = cvsup support has already been dropped in the uk. Cheers, Joe From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 25 12:44:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6657CD35 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from babel.karthauser.co.uk (212-13-197-151.karthauser.co.uk [212.13.197.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D147780 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dspam (212-13-197-151.karthauser.co.uk [212.13.197.151]) by babel.karthauser.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 07F9DAC4 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.178] (unknown [86.188.177.234]) (Authenticated sender: joemail@tao.org.uk) by babel.karthauser.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FD6FAC1; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Dr Josef Karthauser In-Reply-To: <20140325122639.GD13387@carrick-users.bishnet.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:44:06 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> <20140325122639.GD13387@carrick-users.bishnet.net> To: Tim Bishop X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Mar 25 12:44:09 2014 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 53317a1926488729239781 Cc: "hubs@freebsd.org Hubs" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:44:19 -0000 On 25 Mar 2014, at 12:26, Tim Bishop wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 05:51:16PM +0000, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote: >> I'm in favour of passing uk.freeBSD.org back to central = administration >> - I think that we boil down to just a single FTP mirror these days >> anyway; cvsup support has already been dropped in the uk. >=20 > Two mirrors; >=20 > ftp.uk.freebsd.org is an alias for ftp3.uk.freebsd.org. > ftp3.uk.freebsd.org is an alias for mirror.exonetric.net. > mirror.exonetric.net has address 178.250.72.50 > mirror.exonetric.net has IPv6 address 2a02:1658:0:8020::4 >=20 > ftp2.uk.freebsd.org is an alias for ftp.mirrorservice.org. > ftp.mirrorservice.org has address 212.219.56.184 >=20 > Just wanted to point that out as the (new) admin of mirrorservice.org = :-) >=20 > Tim. Ah! Hello! :) Mirrorservice have been a support for years and years and = years - I erroneously supposed that we'd lost primary support. Glad to = be corrected! Actually, what Peter's proposing is pulling the delegation back, not = dropping local mirrors! :) You've still got a job, it's only me that's = sacked under the new scheme! :) Joe From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 15:10:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 278DE771; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0.glenbarber.us (mail0.glenbarber.us [208.86.227.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.glenbarber.us", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1306B1C; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (70.15.88.86.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net [70.15.88.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by mail0.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE97B58E1; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:10:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 mail0.glenbarber.us BE97B58E1 Authentication-Results: mail0.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:10:02 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Stale mirrors and rsync Message-ID: <20140331151002.GB1736@glenbarber.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu" Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:10:12 -0000 --TRYliJ5NKNqkz5bu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We (admins) have changed the way we monitor the mirror states to keep track of staleness. We still continue to use the TIMESTAMP files, but since not all mirrors have a copy of all FTP data, it became tricky to determine which TIMESTAMP file makes sense to keep track of. Since all mirrors have the releases/ directory, please make sure the releases/TIMESTAMP file is readable. We are using fetch(1) to grab the file and compare the update time against the current time to determine how many days a mirror is out of sync, but some mirrors do not have a readable releases/TIMESTAMP file, so otherwise makes it impossible to keep track of things. Related, at present, there are 15 mirrors that are out of sync by a significant number of days. The list is below, for those that are unaware that their respective mirror is out of sync. Several weeks ago, it was pointed out that one of the mirrors was not updating, and upon investigation it was determined that the mirror had run out of space. When syncing with ftp-master, please be sure to use the '-H' flag with rsync. This ensures that symlinks are copied as symlinks, and avoids fetching multiple copies of the same file. This appears to be happening quite often, and not only is inefficient use of bandwidth for all involved, but also significantly increases the overall sync time. Currently, the total size of the entire pub/FreeBSD/ directory is: % du -hs . 1.1T . Thank you, as always, for your continued support of FreeBSD. 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(ezm3 build error, modula3 is only for amd64) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 04:03:48 -0000 It seems cvsup is steel needed for FreeBSD www and mail-archive mirroring, but can't be build on stable-10 i386 due to ezm3 build error (and lang/modula3 is only for amd64): ---------- building m3bundle in language/modula3/m3tools ---------- /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../boot-FreeBSD4/m3build/FreeBSD4/m3build -T /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../m3config/src -F /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../FreeBSD4/config.tmpl -DUSE_M3DOC= mkdir FreeBSD4 --- building in FreeBSD4 --- new source -> compiling ../src/m3bundle.m3 -> linking m3bundle cc: error: unknown argument: '-R/usr/local/lib/m3/FreeBSD4' /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../boot-FreeBSD4/m3ship/FreeBSD4/m3ship -T /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../m3config/src install: m3bundle: No such file or directory --- shipping from FreeBSD4 --- /usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/m3bundle/FreeBSD4 .M3EXPORTS .M3IMPTAB .M3WEB /usr/local/bin m3bundle m3ship: quake error: quake error: runtime error: install failed with error code: 71 --procedure-- -line- -file--- error -- install_file 501 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/m3config/src/COMMON 6 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/language/modula3/m3tools/m3bundle/FreeBSD4/.M3SHIP m3build: quake error: quake error: runtime error: m3ship failed with error code: 1 --procedure-- -line- -file--- error -- BuildChunk 170 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/m3makefile PkgInfo 240 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/m3makefile 44 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/PACKAGES gmake[1]: *** [packages] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2' *** Error code 2 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ezm3 -- http://ache.vniz.net/ From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 1 17:29:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D706FEF0; Thu, 1 May 2014 17:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:39d::78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1A06161B; Thu, 1 May 2014 17:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D067E87; Thu, 1 May 2014 10:28:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1398965339; bh=MalhpjwikaIGcbtCbvWgBKk1tYyLGsGVviGuiz99E28=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=T8xLD6RgmwlLWEvvnQzpyY34vY7xAbZP1V5YS7CFh7yoJzR7AOAaUj53NN8jFfBSG A2jmO8wxBsenJGWvs02aS19ZsPAusvlA5xklmcxc4+8Quee6KlnQ7tV4yLwgFi7gm5 AygeJdoZtRSm2kzAQjihaBtqMwNOpWzMZvqZ1jyg= From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No cvsup for i386 now? (ezm3 build error, modula3 is only for amd64) Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 10:28:53 -0700 Message-ID: <2217055.dioPZldl7u@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.4 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.4; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <5361B1E1.1000302@freebsd.org> References: <5361B1E1.1000302@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3102564.GJbYp75CHl"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 17:29:02 -0000 --nextPart3102564.GJbYp75CHl Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thursday 01 May 2014 06:30:57 Andrey Chernov wrote: > It seems cvsup is steel needed for FreeBSD www and mail-archive > mirroring, but can't be build on stable-10 i386 due to ezm3 build err= or > (and lang/modula3 is only for amd64): >=20 With my clusteradm hat on, we would prefer that you NOT use cvsup for t= his=20 mirroring. Please look at the module list on rsync://bit0.ysv.freebsd.org/ The cvsup system fetches directly from here. If you are using cvsup, y= ou are=20 getting second hand information. To be sure of clarity, this is the data flow: [source data] ---rsync---> [bit0.ysv] ---rsync---> [cvsup-builder] ---c= vsup--- > [cvsup-master] --> you You can skip a whole bunch of indirection by bypassing cvsup. > ---------- building m3bundle in language/modula3/m3tools ---------- >=20 > /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../boot-FreeBSD4/m3build/FreeB= SD4/m3b > uild -T /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../m3config/src -F > /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../FreeBSD4/config.tmpl -DUSE_= M3DOC=3D > mkdir FreeBSD4 > --- building in FreeBSD4 --- > new source -> compiling ../src/m3bundle.m3 > -> linking m3bundle > cc: error: unknown argument: '-R/usr/local/lib/m3/FreeBSD4' > /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../boot-FreeBSD4/m3ship/FreeBS= D4/m3sh > ip -T /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/../m3config/src > install: m3bundle: No such file or directory > --- shipping from FreeBSD4 --- > /usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/m3bundle/FreeBSD4 > .M3EXPORTS > .M3IMPTAB > .M3WEB > /usr/local/bin > m3bundle >=20 > m3ship: quake error: quake error: runtime error: install failed with > error code: 71 >=20 > --procedure-- -line- -file--- > error -- > install_file 501 > /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/m3config/src/COMMON > 6 > /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/language/modula3/m3tools/m3bundle/= FreeBSD > 4/.M3SHIP >=20 >=20 > m3build: quake error: quake error: runtime error: m3ship failed with > error code: 1 >=20 > --procedure-- -line- -file--- > error -- > BuildChunk 170 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/m3makef= ile > PkgInfo 240 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/m3makef= ile > 44 /usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2/src/PACKAGE= S >=20 > gmake[1]: *** [packages] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.2' > *** Error code 2 >=20 > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ezm3 =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do. --nextPart3102564.GJbYp75CHl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlNihFoACgkQFRKuUnJ3cX9YzACeKok5C7qCCJElmXS1EbpyhQp8 LM4An0Lh+0FHg17OtZx2OXZEq3el4X7m =EgGe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3102564.GJbYp75CHl-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 2 09:52:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9155AC11 for ; Fri, 2 May 2014 09:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (mail-lb0-f173.google.com [209.85.217.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1339312A7 for ; Fri, 2 May 2014 09:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u14so407164lbd.32 for ; Fri, 02 May 2014 02:52:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=ZgVckMj6Vbi2S315JgL3SxwdYLpp845jjG+HsZwuE1U=; b=SLdPq0B1L3iuimG9FqCQZhlbdo4dVpAwEAhAYWUL1eNmOIkEyhL/lhxgdrA0eJud74 HezNi0mfT5tXddRu98ZjgIkk4DDrrzCYQ9lZWZdanLM7ULH8s8kSl/uSbNfWmkaUWprH kHk/CGweGkyPRqFbiaFQSfH8LHTuyIAxCecHFAYiJCUp62js6+Y4VQ3r8nAtZkKt9Btf x8e/0NEJ2iWDSXjL3+6VFlWTPX7OPVRLqrBGJF4vx6OP+Axsq/AW7Z3H5r/ZPfDoffML NCThNjyVirmTmi69j4hwhkSoxjnzDSwJZc4hpkMJ1hR0j4V3XtNOeizHS7FQTJT82bqN LsyA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmMMKeLwVSUiM3qAz7s8RQKGfn9Fl3LSmbQmtyd8tgqzXKJZwHsi6uug86Lyted1QCCEjnB X-Received: by 10.152.203.236 with SMTP id kt12mr11490894lac.8.1399024347200; Fri, 02 May 2014 02:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([89.169.173.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wm1sm22387884lac.14.2014.05.02.02.52.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 02 May 2014 02:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53636AD1.8030307@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 13:52:17 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No cvsup for i386 now? (ezm3 build error, modula3 is only for amd64) References: <5361B1E1.1000302@freebsd.org> <2217055.dioPZldl7u@overcee.wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <2217055.dioPZldl7u@overcee.wemm.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="14IxW2tn0toibSSxXjRH0lxicp7NU9dc9" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 09:52:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --14IxW2tn0toibSSxXjRH0lxicp7NU9dc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01.05.2014 21:28, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Thursday 01 May 2014 06:30:57 Andrey Chernov wrote: >> It seems cvsup is steel needed for FreeBSD www and mail-archive >> mirroring, but can't be build on stable-10 i386 due to ezm3 build erro= r >> (and lang/modula3 is only for amd64): >> >=20 > With my clusteradm hat on, we would prefer that you NOT use cvsup for t= his=20 > mirroring. >=20 > Please look at the module list on rsync://bit0.ysv.freebsd.org/ >=20 > The cvsup system fetches directly from here. If you are using cvsup, y= ou are=20 > getting second hand information. >=20 > To be sure of clarity, this is the data flow: >=20 > [source data] ---rsync---> [bit0.ysv] ---rsync---> [cvsup-builder] ---c= vsup--- >> [cvsup-master] --> you >=20 > You can skip a whole bunch of indirection by bypassing cvsup. Thanx for directions, I switch to rsync now. I fix ezm3 i386 port yesterday as side effect of investigation. --=20 http://ache.vniz.net/ --14IxW2tn0toibSSxXjRH0lxicp7NU9dc9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlNjatkACgkQVg5YK5ZEdN2D/wCgjKceHBsUKc7JLi0ngZfmo5/r yRYAn1YNI9ckBEqHZkAAvnHB1NR+XYbL =TvdO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --14IxW2tn0toibSSxXjRH0lxicp7NU9dc9-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 18:49:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D1175C4 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22d.google.com (mail-we0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A8EC23F6 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u57so825183wes.4 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:49:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=astkifMn0e6SZ49YNei3tlpf3y6pU+rblQLNNe/e/y8=; b=GpH3rAn3k/rJhU2JQzhvSRPpadk8+OeUC/wErLlD2HBISZOZX+mmMOl2knQFyqH+yc tNOMcBhp5j6lhE0BrMrX/5mnl19Skcagb/orFqcSfe09MqbqlWy19QnLYiikhKS9gnmD 9SVFvYN4IW3nTgpyZ257tQMkavKfUrRHYtn8nD1tfQvy84VFVd566i7BkRSTChZoBNpJ 0iIelo8TXPO3RZKGcZjZRozYqAXirVkY00WyxZ2upPrRblP6l5WB8U6dsPim6MH3Y52q u9zm67DVt0Xpelgggka9hnypkOlefUjGggGClwn+1nGHc5l7EG3YT9VKCO/Lp359kWcg 4Z3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.206.2 with SMTP id lk2mr28252763wjc.33.1400006979138; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.122.142 with HTTP; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:49:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: ftp.kr.freebsd.org mirror From: Junho CHOI To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:49:41 -0000 Hi, I am using FTP to ftp-master.freebsd.org for updating ftp.kr.freebsd.orgmirror but since May 6 access is denied. Spegla started at Tue May 6 00:00:00 2014 Logging in to ftp-master.freebsd.org ftp: ftp_relogin: unexpected greeting from server: 421 ftp-master.freebsd.org This is not a public server. Access denied to daemon.kr.freebsd.org. Why access is denied? Please let me know you switched to other method (rsync etc). Also I need to re-subscribe to freebsd-hubs@ - I sent subscription request. I am maintaining of kr.freebsd.org domains and its mirrors. You can contact me by cjh@kr.freebsd.org or admin@kr.freebsd.org but kr.freebsd.org e-mail is now broken so need some to time fix. Thanks, -- Junho CHOI From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 13 18:56:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E4C8776 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com (mail-wg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C29224AA for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id m15so822104wgh.8 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:55:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pP7A2HMge6S2oWT3LEh356BHnDQpl9Pt/0rVRVkc/Aw=; b=kBfPUNQB3ImCjjFJifXtoIjOfHushSw/rWv8Qd4tBWwjbGxwjmw/9N0D2HV2vbg0J7 Tw5Qs517QPJOAVzR3txhHAj3y0mrv2KVtMTxpmkr2i+06/AQ/ihLv+UwR9NmRQVAnOrL 87//D99JREFFogJIUnQtMmiNxNBf8QB2toOUQ7o/2KeGHlFxfTaKwWSoAhyvOjMorTc0 TNmXp/F6xnAEj0LuZHAFgPq93coCOZ7cMcxRApZHdP80xkU8GEAsvJXuOOko6h0wt/vm 1+Jtepg+tSX5vnP5j8XiXvSp/J9Ky+KKNekeNdlu0E57anp3zIvWE9aXjafKUu3YUEnm 1MxQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.185.100 with SMTP id fb4mr22614817wic.11.1400007351790; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.122.142 with HTTP; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:55:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:55:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ftp.kr.freebsd.org mirror From: Junho CHOI To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:56:01 -0000 Also I got access denied from rsync master. # rsync -vaHz --delete rsync://ftp-master.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/~ftp/pub/FreeBSD/ ... @ERROR: access denied to FreeBSD from daemon.kr.freebsd.org(118.107.163.178) rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1635) [Receiver=3.1.0] Please allow the following IP for ftp.kr.freebsd.org master mirror: 118.107.163.178 118.107.163.179 Thanks, On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Junho CHOI wrote: > Hi, > > I am using FTP to ftp-master.freebsd.org for updating ftp.kr.freebsd.orgmirror but since May 6 access is denied. > > Spegla started at Tue May 6 00:00:00 2014 > Logging in to ftp-master.freebsd.org > ftp: ftp_relogin: unexpected greeting from server: 421 > ftp-master.freebsd.org > This is not a public server. Access denied to daemon.kr.freebsd.org. > > Why access is denied? > > Please let me know you switched to other method (rsync etc). > > Also I need to re-subscribe to freebsd-hubs@ - I sent subscription > request. I am maintaining of kr.freebsd.org domains and its mirrors. > > You can contact me by cjh@kr.freebsd.org or admin@kr.freebsd.org but > kr.freebsd.org e-mail is now broken so need some to time fix. > > Thanks, > > -- > Junho CHOI > -- Junho CHOI From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 11:47:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B80515F for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 11:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22d.google.com (mail-oa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2556275F for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 11:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l6so2010942oag.32 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 04:47:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxnitro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XSJznIMB7hZCkQLmwD+rF7V2LFSVDfn2UoKKtROXUaw=; b=ODS7iDaaOAg/tMO68S22oTEhf/K0bf+4sdK292KU0XUE9sxxd37OkuieocUWm5YfiQ PCLJ5lAXNF4j+ZRILJEbq3YSmYLT+U/pbSKQsfZGUiPxf6yKeFYEHJ0n9Y0PcX6NXgW3 eqXpr9bExMfJnz+oOKH6+06QJEcVU3c5wwn6E= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XSJznIMB7hZCkQLmwD+rF7V2LFSVDfn2UoKKtROXUaw=; b=Tw7+5h+kNYdTRtY18ZmYtLLX4v3A0TWF5KGIzcblUa9TcPXonkNDE8kR7peg+hx7DE VHBsjNFFhNMw7IDuc3n2UoyyK0hE4B0fH9bdoIUguKMqtzMYD2pNr5H/939c9+ECowXh a+hMiCMKI9fLBNpBvAstdtvUYM4c1BvdUAS73KyUZB3TRNoFhKZQBDEGfcYdRkCL9+/B 7CN7vDL+jXpkcHCM5GQ0hqJaQ9eI4q3u1JgJsQzdeoP4lHxeKJtOmxgbbdpQL3xBGl6f oaC90dxG7qMrqBjHb4fGwIyXLS/h4FgC7f+pmNZpF1+Jhdd1ifSAkA27aGCPsjMPxtl7 9gfA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk+putqx2dvegCsU740safQFZ1Oyt7UWaH97z5XMKRbN5NwhhyYy0ngtvc/oVHwGVz/Hknp MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.144.161 with SMTP id sn1mr1738619obb.82.1400068041598; Wed, 14 May 2014 04:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.76.40 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2014 04:47:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 12:47:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ftp.kr.freebsd.org mirror From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" To: Junho CHOI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-hubs , Peter Wemm X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 11:47:23 -0000 Hi, Peter Wemm fixed this yesterday - please let us know if you still see the problem. On 13 May 2014 19:55, Junho CHOI wrote: > Also I got access denied from rsync master. > > # rsync -vaHz --delete > rsync://ftp-master.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/~ftp/pub/FreeBSD/ > ... > > @ERROR: access denied to FreeBSD from daemon.kr.freebsd.org(118.107.163.178) > rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at > main.c(1635) [Receiver=3.1.0] > > Please allow the following IP for ftp.kr.freebsd.org master mirror: > > 118.107.163.178 > 118.107.163.179 > > Thanks, > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Junho CHOI wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am using FTP to ftp-master.freebsd.org for updating ftp.kr.freebsd.orgmirror but since May 6 access is denied. >> >> Spegla started at Tue May 6 00:00:00 2014 >> Logging in to ftp-master.freebsd.org >> ftp: ftp_relogin: unexpected greeting from server: 421 >> ftp-master.freebsd.org >> This is not a public server. Access denied to daemon.kr.freebsd.org. >> >> Why access is denied? >> >> Please let me know you switched to other method (rsync etc). >> >> Also I need to re-subscribe to freebsd-hubs@ - I sent subscription >> request. I am maintaining of kr.freebsd.org domains and its mirrors. >> >> You can contact me by cjh@kr.freebsd.org or admin@kr.freebsd.org but >> kr.freebsd.org e-mail is now broken so need some to time fix. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Junho CHOI >> > > > > -- > Junho CHOI > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hubs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hubs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Simon L. B. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 22:30:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D421E35; Wed, 14 May 2014 22:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABEFE2152; Wed, 14 May 2014 22:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id bs8so3209761wib.12 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:30:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+/barX05gMNLZaKbS+8fHKLLbqpRQUSYjvmJAea7p+M=; b=zwgfzGnXO04s6gyz0Cd9hZM1GJUsb/4Mncrrip4KYCb/Cev7TswTxRkp7YstOAPv2c GN7Tv2bK5BD8X09KdqV2MqjyR2NPJtqfarSmC8safISXt5FGYplhP/V/Cgg6b1crdeX7 YO9S5CrsUCdLZGJ/6Czd0HM7k+tPtEud7LlEtMWihOiKidUTx6nPxBZU8zbD/I9DFyZx NH4HIewtBiXN/hhg7M+FKrGDM9Y70UQgAvxY1NDXK+E+88MuFH5NkguCliSVPdX+Um7c ZUlWCMRrp6KkvQfNMlHw/rahd3K9hDaXRS/kevGlNW0/BfGBPb5GlE4eUD+TlBOnWaVQ jPtQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.206.205 with SMTP id lq13mr28144051wic.11.1400106611990; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.122.142 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2014 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 15:30:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ftp.kr.freebsd.org mirror From: Junho CHOI To: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: freebsd-hubs , Peter Wemm X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 22:30:14 -0000 Yes I am re-syncing ftp mirror (ftp.kr.freebsd.org) using rsync. Connection is slow but I believe it will catch up in a few days. Thanks, On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote: > Hi, > > Peter Wemm fixed this yesterday - please let us know if you still see > the problem. > > On 13 May 2014 19:55, Junho CHOI wrote: > > Also I got access denied from rsync master. > > > > # rsync -vaHz --delete > > rsync://ftp-master.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/~ftp/pub/FreeBSD/ > > ... > > > > @ERROR: access denied to FreeBSD from daemon.kr.freebsd.org > (118.107.163.178) > > rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at > > main.c(1635) [Receiver=3.1.0] > > > > Please allow the following IP for ftp.kr.freebsd.org master mirror: > > > > 118.107.163.178 > > 118.107.163.179 > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Junho CHOI > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am using FTP to ftp-master.freebsd.org for updating > ftp.kr.freebsd.orgmirror but since May 6 access is denied. > >> > >> Spegla started at Tue May 6 00:00:00 2014 > >> Logging in to ftp-master.freebsd.org > >> ftp: ftp_relogin: unexpected greeting from server: 421 > >> ftp-master.freebsd.org > >> This is not a public server. Access denied to daemon.kr.freebsd.org. > >> > >> Why access is denied? > >> > >> Please let me know you switched to other method (rsync etc). > >> > >> Also I need to re-subscribe to freebsd-hubs@ - I sent subscription > >> request. I am maintaining of kr.freebsd.org domains and its mirrors. > >> > >> You can contact me by cjh@kr.freebsd.org or admin@kr.freebsd.org but > >> kr.freebsd.org e-mail is now broken so need some to time fix. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -- > >> Junho CHOI > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Junho CHOI > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hubs > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hubs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Simon L. B. Nielsen > -- Junho CHOI From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 23:54:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14E24BED for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 23:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:39d::78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6DD428EE for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 23:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.26.29] (50-204-120-225-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.204.120.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: peter) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D817649 for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 16:54:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1400975667; bh=m76E73XQT7nH+7wiyyqD636MVjbpyEUxObEmBlMUmQw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=fF3R2lzJY+Dmc8+xVg/Uy5IoZ6VCg0uTphFXewmPYQbvlh8RxCL6HH7ibvjo3Z/sc JWt53/lGfHiFfn+e+0C9w+1yt11BHRfZAxO3pUXqMO+cSz6lzqOMQ5AzufoFHbt7hr IrNN47rC+bjDhANc57SSHd6my/gNFTH8oUNtZ1Mw= Message-ID: <53813134.7090901@wemm.org> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 16:54:28 -0700 From: Peter Wemm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: people running www.freebsd.org mirrors! Switch from cvsup to rsync please. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 23:54:29 -0000 If you are running a www mirror that is being updated via cvsup, *please stop* and switch to rsync. Right now, the data flow is like this: build-web --rsync--> bit0.us-west.freebsd.org -+-rsync--> cvsup-master --cvsup--> mirrors +-rsync--> www.freebsd.org You can skip a whole lot of detouring of data by elinimating cvsup from your mirror feeds and fetching it directly from bit0.us-west.freebsd.org # rsync rsync://bit0.us-west.freebsd.org/FreeBSD-www-data/ This is bit0.us-west.FreeBSD.org. drwxrwxr-x 1,536 2014/05/24 23:21:03 . -rw-rw-r-- 10,290 2014/05/24 23:20:31 4xx.html -rw-rw-r-- 10,317 2014/05/24 23:20:31 5xx.html -rw-rw-r-- 14,015 2014/05/24 23:20:31 about.html .... To switch, please use something like this: $ rsync -aHz --delete rsync://bit0.us-west.freebsd.org/FreeBSD-www-data/ /home/mirror/www-data/ of note, -H for tracking hard links, and --delete to clean up old files. Don't run rsync as root, etc etc. However I would like to make a plea here. Please take a peek at your server's traffic logs to check that it makes sense to keep the mirror going and that it's not just bots. I'm aware that people run them for a variety of reasons (anything from language variants to local content to improving latency to participating in the community etc), but please don't feel obligated to keep running one if there is no longer a reason. A neglected mirror is far worse than no mirror. Even worse, we risk being penalized in search engines for duplicated content because it looks like spam to certain algorithms. If it's time to stop, contact the hostmaster for your zone and have the dns and mirror lists updated. Please don't let them go to dead air. -Peter From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 23:56:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72741C3A for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 23:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:39d::78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EE7A2909 for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 23:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.26.29] (50-204-120-225-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.204.120.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: peter) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AEEAC64D for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 16:56:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1400975800; bh=AnzQ5SEnWEVyry2UVcESQyXvLJb3oQq9Dzfk74LJyW4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=OslwhZC3dFBCu30m7G3JtoHPluBT2/5HHQGmKBVttxYm9oFPXUpCoTcF8w3b2M9kY wDSsCGQc9MzsHBz0J/hL/77e+xTK4XmQcA0XRpD1LxB1uiHdcRnEsXsb7tmLIyaRom reVJgZVuw+rza1mLojxMEHWhr/yJ4ldqtlQnSa5Y= Message-ID: <538131BA.9070808@wemm.org> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 16:56:42 -0700 From: Peter Wemm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: people running www.freebsd.org mirrors! Switch from cvsup to rsync please. References: <53813134.7090901@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <53813134.7090901@wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 23:56:41 -0000 On 5/24/14, 4:54 PM, Peter Wemm wrote: > If you are running a www mirror that is being updated via cvsup, > *please stop* and switch to rsync. > > Right now, the data flow is like this: > > build-web --rsync--> bit0.us-west.freebsd.org -+-rsync--> cvsup-master > --cvsup--> mirrors > +-rsync--> www.freebsd.org I was punished for trying to be smart. here's a better version: build-web --rsync--> bit0.us-west.freebsd.org --rsync--> cvsup-master --cvsup--> mirrors build-web --rsync--> bit0.us-west.freebsd.org --rsync--> www.freebsd.org ie: anything you can see on cvsup is already *second-hand* from bit0.us-west.freebsd.org. -Peter From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 22:31:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2662A957 for ; Mon, 26 May 2014 22:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:39d::78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0356321F4 for ; Mon, 26 May 2014 22:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F770BCD for ; Mon, 26 May 2014 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1401143516; bh=jgta/4gge5QR4XPsD7lt53DS+v/UXdJMNrQKZP46ZzE=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=sSaGo3dhNFgrQqGvMPj1pyZLZsjWyoEcwDDFyiuwt49ecTAUjBguXLlonQmXTzjFW iC5qXdG96LyAyYgkeetlLnfVPtc82DojsjbmmSpjTj6u0F/3lmOpfevwt4oH9DD3/1 UouDlQDzQuzMaVShl/mQ7l7402KGW29Pz+dL8mJU= From: Peter Wemm To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: The cvsup exporter is dead, Long live cvsup! Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:31:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1697228.6Ttx5e9l03@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.4 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2381874.YdjIWpNdGt"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 22:31:58 -0000 --nextPart2381874.YdjIWpNdGt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Folks.. On May 21st, while trying to tidy up loose ends over the expiration of=20= RELENG_8_3, I discovered that the exporter was corrupted again. I glanced back at the previously published milestones for the EOL of th= e cvsup=20 export process and they're *all* behind us. We said it would continue on a "best effort basis until 9.0-RELEASE, 8.= 3- RELEASE, 7.4-RELEASE are no longer supported". These are all expired. When I discovered that the exporter staging areas were damaged, I added= the=20 usual markers to the cvs files and let them be distributed. Nobody sai= d=20 anything that I'm aware of. Therefore, I am intending to not fix it. While it could be fixed (agai= n), I=20 feel it is time to put it to rest. The temporary transition aid lasted= 5=20 years longer than I imagined. I'll post a -announce message shortly. I archived the last changes to = the=20 exporter on ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVS-archive (they'= ll be=20 visible soon), and will be disconnecting the machinery by May 31st. We provide daily updates for source and ports tarballs for every branch= on=20 ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/development/tarballs/ so there's a way in = from=20 the cold for even ancient branches. On a related note: reminder: if you are mirroring www.freebsd.org via = cvsup,=20 please stop. See the instructions in the mail I sent a few days ago ab= out how=20 to obtain it via rsync. =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do. --nextPart2381874.YdjIWpNdGt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJTg8DcAAoJEDXWlwnsgJ4EAsUIALJdzgsY36Msgws8CM6qhuk7 OVrwVeCuBjSLKi0Lu8eMSfo/1fCVRvPkZIpOg0Y0ezdY9v8l1ZgUwaey5J5qvW7u quLfmM3j6lVbpWFBGBqDIa7QodNhNq7UW1MIecTQdmBjkFN7AM8yR57uJ79NR4UJ 1/K6BKHBbSxri+RM5q/znvNU/5cNFfMqyCiXLiUpfIIAPCbO6CGCWVLIdKlJMXQh 2NrfJIpVQWtmVVnmqqAoaCxDdCzK0zOeIi+01Ni/2bLR7Bv4eZs7IViW3CPu7JlJ Hg5IpdkQEBNj+lPoy3857CCnIICQi9jdPaHqFE+dnpeR7ufh632MdiWghn8VBDA= =uVrr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2381874.YdjIWpNdGt-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 23:51:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4843AE2 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 23:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nsc0.cwu.edu (nsc0.cwu.edu [72.233.196.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 932612391 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 23:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sherpani.cts.cwu.edu (sherpani.cts.cwu.edu [192.168.15.16]) by nsc0.cwu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s4RNdYW0057088 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 16:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwt@cwu.edu) Received: from sherpani.cts.cwu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sherpani.cts.cwu.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4RNdY6k058745 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 16:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwt@cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (cwt@localhost) by sherpani.cts.cwu.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id s4RNdYAh058742 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 16:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwt@cwu.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: sherpani.cts.cwu.edu: cwt owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:39:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons X-X-Sender: cwt@sherpani.cts.cwu.edu To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The cvsup exporter is dead, Long live cvsup! In-Reply-To: <1697228.6Ttx5e9l03@overcee.wemm.org> Message-ID: References: <1697228.6Ttx5e9l03@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (nsc0.cwu.edu [72.233.196.16]); Tue, 27 May 2014 16:39:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 23:51:13 -0000 I've taken down cvsup.freebsd.org. Could a DNS admin remove the CNAME pointing into our network? cvsup.freebsd.org is an alias for bsn0-0.edmz.cwu.edu. Regards, -c On Mon, 26 May 2014, Peter Wemm wrote: > Folks.. > > On May 21st, while trying to tidy up loose ends over the expiration of > RELENG_8_3, I discovered that the exporter was corrupted again. > > I glanced back at the previously published milestones for the EOL of the cvsup > export process and they're *all* behind us. > > We said it would continue on a "best effort basis until 9.0-RELEASE, 8.3- > RELEASE, 7.4-RELEASE are no longer supported". These are all expired. > > When I discovered that the exporter staging areas were damaged, I added the > usual markers to the cvs files and let them be distributed. Nobody said > anything that I'm aware of. > > Therefore, I am intending to not fix it. While it could be fixed (again), I > feel it is time to put it to rest. The temporary transition aid lasted 5 > years longer than I imagined. > > I'll post a -announce message shortly. I archived the last changes to the > exporter on ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVS-archive (they'll be > visible soon), and will be disconnecting the machinery by May 31st. > > We provide daily updates for source and ports tarballs for every branch on > ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/development/tarballs/ so there's a way in from > the cold for even ancient branches. > > > > On a related note: reminder: if you are mirroring www.freebsd.org via cvsup, > please stop. See the instructions in the mail I sent a few days ago about how > to obtain it via rsync. > > -- > Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV > UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do. From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 23:52:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 661ACBAF; Tue, 27 May 2014 23:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:39d::78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F69E23B3; Tue, 27 May 2014 23:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E7A78; Tue, 27 May 2014 16:52:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1401234766; bh=bxrgvLYt1FbnXQRubi8Fo8++D9BTZXHK6sMDOajxwq4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=D/ba8hnPK3Xbn2wQE1N3fTN4KMRn7JgBrIKCliudUwi7en2Z7K5DutpyO1T9LJj6E 0abjYmzLNkDHvVemOHOc1xcxUVttJnJCiJoTVvXQ47+Ax6LP9+d5nTI2mc1RNTL1wD FCA5MAj8mTf+yfWlHIHUx7PQ9h5rXEP0O8A0RmKU= From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The cvsup exporter is dead, Long live cvsup! Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:52:46 -0700 Message-ID: <10859874.slnSAth7lI@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.4 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.4; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1697228.6Ttx5e9l03@overcee.wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart28105841.OdR3kD90z1"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Chris Timmons , hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 23:52:47 -0000 --nextPart28105841.OdR3kD90z1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tuesday 27 May 2014 16:39:34 Chris Timmons wrote: > I've taken down cvsup.freebsd.org. Could a DNS admin remove the CNAM= E > pointing into our network? >=20 > =09cvsup.freebsd.org is an alias for bsn0-0.edmz.cwu.edu. I'll take care of this right now, thanks for the heads-up! > Regards, > -c >=20 > On Mon, 26 May 2014, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Folks.. > >=20 > > On May 21st, while trying to tidy up loose ends over the expiration= of > > RELENG_8_3, I discovered that the exporter was corrupted again. > >=20 > > I glanced back at the previously published milestones for the EOL o= f the > > cvsup export process and they're *all* behind us. > >=20 > > We said it would continue on a "best effort basis until 9.0-RELEASE= , 8.3- > > RELEASE, 7.4-RELEASE are no longer supported". These are all expir= ed. > >=20 > > When I discovered that the exporter staging areas were damaged, I a= dded > > the > > usual markers to the cvs files and let them be distributed. Nobody= said > > anything that I'm aware of. > >=20 > > Therefore, I am intending to not fix it. While it could be fixed (= again), > > I feel it is time to put it to rest. The temporary transition aid = lasted > > 5 years longer than I imagined. > >=20 > > I'll post a -announce message shortly. I archived the last changes= to the > > exporter on ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVS-archive (t= hey'll > > be visible soon), and will be disconnecting the machinery by May 31= st. > >=20 > > We provide daily updates for source and ports tarballs for every br= anch on > > ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/development/tarballs/ so there's a way= in > > from > > the cold for even ancient branches. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On a related note: reminder: if you are mirroring www.freebsd.org = via > > cvsup, please stop. See the instructions in the mail I sent a few = days > > ago about how to obtain it via rsync. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hubs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hubs-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do. --nextPart28105841.OdR3kD90z1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJThSVOAAoJEDXWlwnsgJ4EBKkH/AxbAAuaUtVMos8IObxxWiyp vi/sIKAUBC6gGiOb3+F/FeDKFzAHd/zyUrUFTiT3qypAJUsw3FCDQgQ4k02gX227 XG3h7FoDsa/f6YC99TLTODhywMb/HshtvD6C/f7P4UDgyPSDDFhGBGwsTlDDJuZO r8bAXyvaAmejRw7T7Fj+wp6cFUeSEGMOaktIJ4RwUba65Fh8cq9Mp8+hxtIt3+c5 p0MiKXyFFeDV9zyTueZXYxrgfLw2+XTrklsVDBcNyW2t619FPcZtguArsbJ0sOyn lbcmtZtmntL8pq/cp1B1nrZpNt//UbXuYgvgkoYZZgWTKkvT+dfj10V1d7eELHI= =0Bs6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart28105841.OdR3kD90z1-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 01:59:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2D19320 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [192.203.228.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A79062D06 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C510AF1 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1401242382; bh=f8MvOZWzw4/JYx0zmN94cYCsxC4jfZTMzyacV2y+6/Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=o5Bt3RFSoiYVekXJNvO3eYRCOI4yqhd5qiUq6xyf3hwLAcEvStAR9+yJ8BoPNMbDI shbyBrmc7R4bDS1AtEGaXm5MG1D7HcauCdxwAT2ZhhfAX/SUxLjWCq5JedGn2E7CwQ nDBJ+qLs8EWJ1RNgB/G/YrSfw6j7idyslxtZVvME= From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The cvsup exporter is dead, Long live cvsup! Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 18:59:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1610886.IxOp7qNpbc@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.4 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.4; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1697228.6Ttx5e9l03@overcee.wemm.org> References: <1697228.6Ttx5e9l03@overcee.wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2043670.39OFW8oCAW"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 01:59:43 -0000 --nextPart2043670.39OFW8oCAW Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday 26 May 2014 15:31:51 Peter Wemm wrote: > Folks.. >=20 > On May 21st, while trying to tidy up loose ends over the expiration o= f > RELENG_8_3, I discovered that the exporter was corrupted again. So.. it was even worse. No updates had published since Feb 4th. ... It's conclusive that it's time.. =2DPeter =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do. --nextPart2043670.39OFW8oCAW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJThUMOAAoJEDXWlwnsgJ4EuocH/j22kX+VO0JtRHhjLuR8KfW8 aOPeEBjoioSBvgM0yAOUs2MJY3znGdWvt51b9QZGBzOBo905BLuhuFr9gEZs9f2d +EHeYLYWvSmP0vf0oPGZr79mh641GhL1+5DYFrJxPUPYsYwYt0Dy2oNEdI82p+05 E7xn7L392yuNeQv7DILmGm92qCeWAjG1Klv/cRtgmhnYaTGjRz1YadvW3VV+U+8Y wrcp71PtGBhtJkCgKFOz9S1S9fJMgAaAEQuqV+bFe0qRfcygblMqmXPevRPLfPg8 AN/xX8gXCSh+YnzYu1kDdFxelXz+IZEvlluDTAfsC1slq+d2L26BsW7HEPwgqRw= =cQpY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2043670.39OFW8oCAW-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 18:55:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFFCE790 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 18:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [192.203.228.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C458622BA for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 18:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E01DBC for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1402080915; bh=F4zVA1k+OUAk0tyMsOSPMYaL/N+XOA6EloMb+1Wgg9I=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=qcWVTTgy32yu35YKFOq2nDBp8m8wfGtnrDd/7BFm/HfrarzO/sHmA83cUEggziRAr Ugt0l0vbtJWKKSmAbLp7fTiiTd0SN0TSDhiWiZ9y4RiGP2IWbT4sf7652POTTDKztW LlYaEk96rNpQC4Up/KvR9yFCC3AQ8vKcCF9DVo2g= From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: people running www.freebsd.org mirrors! Switch from cvsup to rsync please. Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 11:55:09 -0700 Message-ID: <2425762.UjGoRx1lV6@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.4 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.4; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <53813134.7090901@wemm.org> References: <53813134.7090901@wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2033904.HdhyrUyoDL"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:55:21 -0000 --nextPart2033904.HdhyrUyoDL Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Saturday 24 May 2014 16:54:28 Peter Wemm wrote: > If you are running a www mirror that is being updated via cvsup, *ple= ase > stop* and switch to rsync. [..] > To switch, please use something like this: >=20 > $ rsync -aHz --delete rsync://bit0.us-west.freebsd.org/FreeBSD-www-da= ta/ > /home/mirror/www-data/ >=20 > of note, -H for tracking hard links, and --delete to clean up old > files. Don't run rsync as root, etc etc. >=20 >=20 > However I would like to make a plea here. Please take a peek at your > server's traffic logs to check that it makes sense to keep the mirror= > going and that it's not just bots. I'm aware that people run them fo= r a > variety of reasons (anything from language variants to local content = to > improving latency to participating in the community etc), but please > don't feel obligated to keep running one if there is no longer a > reason. A neglected mirror is far worse than no mirror. >=20 > Even worse, we risk being penalized in search engines for duplicated > content because it looks like spam to certain algorithms. >=20 > If it's time to stop, contact the hostmaster for your zone and have t= he > dns and mirror lists updated. Please don't let them go to dead air. *bump* =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' just won\342\200\231t do\342\200\246 --nextPart2033904.HdhyrUyoDL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJTkg6TAAoJEDXWlwnsgJ4EPmoIANht5eAo7Eq94XP+IMqMhv5g uuxDBLqFiC2Bsmnv4MfGGQoSSKej0+iQaCdMB1Akc6oCbM+78SCEFo/v6T8YuV1b wY1+eUpMedyBbjqq7U7RFgR4gY+NvQqP3+6aMKP6LAMM28WZcGuTGyZjFq6CZEPy n5aTjgkqoIvgGePDh6YwUt7u20yB1FLTRYlieF9nmdz03MWCpEK3iuCWqXXAwKXB A24o9AipygzlPWCWvRprSRkZz0AVTG5R3LmxmhQ+MjjuFGRMa+DYTkVbo6YoElgb uv6+nIQdMoOYGAqtJULyPkUPQx3VIAo3FTLO1VAfzDoSij8jSwJxQY23W2b8sJ0= =zn4l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2033904.HdhyrUyoDL-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 20:27:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EC4CB88 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 20:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za [IPv6:2001:4200:7000:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58432B1C for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 20:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix, from userid 3973) id 9D202B817; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 22:27:05 +0200 (SAST) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 22:27:05 +0200 From: John Hay To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: HEADS UP: people running www.freebsd.org mirrors! Switch from cvsup to rsync please. Message-ID: <20140606202705.GA42146@zibbi.meraka.csir.co.za> References: <53813134.7090901@wemm.org> <2425762.UjGoRx1lV6@overcee.wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2425762.UjGoRx1lV6@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 20:27:17 -0000 Hi Peter, On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 11:55:09AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Saturday 24 May 2014 16:54:28 Peter Wemm wrote: > > If you are running a www mirror that is being updated via cvsup, *please > > stop* and switch to rsync. > [..] > > To switch, please use something like this: > > > > $ rsync -aHz --delete rsync://bit0.us-west.freebsd.org/FreeBSD-www-data/ > > /home/mirror/www-data/ > > > > of note, -H for tracking hard links, and --delete to clean up old > > files. Don't run rsync as root, etc etc. > > > > > > However I would like to make a plea here. Please take a peek at your > > server's traffic logs to check that it makes sense to keep the mirror > > going and that it's not just bots. I'm aware that people run them for a > > variety of reasons (anything from language variants to local content to > > improving latency to participating in the community etc), but please > > don't feel obligated to keep running one if there is no longer a > > reason. A neglected mirror is far worse than no mirror. > > > > Even worse, we risk being penalized in search engines for duplicated > > content because it looks like spam to certain algorithms. > > > > If it's time to stop, contact the hostmaster for your zone and have the > > dns and mirror lists updated. Please don't let them go to dead air. I'm running the last www server for the za and internat sub domains. But these days South Africa has pretty good internet connectivity, so I guess I can stop the web servers. Should I just delete www.za.freebsd.org and www.internat.freebsd.org from the zone files, or should I point them somewhere else? John -- John Hay -- jhay@meraka.csir.co.za / jhay@meraka.org.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 20:44:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F07B578 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 20:44:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.nexicomgroup.net (mail.nexicomgroup.net [216.168.111.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nexicomgroup.net", Issuer "GeoTrust DV SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F2942CDB for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 20:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from MAIL.nexicomgroup.net ([::1]) by mail.nexicomgroup.net ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 16:43:23 -0400 From: Paul Stewart To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: HEADS UP: people running www.freebsd.org mirrors! Switch from cvsup to rsync please. Thread-Topic: HEADS UP: people running www.freebsd.org mirrors! Switch from cvsup to rsync please. 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Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from keltia.net (aran.keltia.net [88.191.250.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11F7B290E for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lonrach.local (foret.keltia.net [78.232.116.160]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: roberto) by keltia.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE57152AE for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 16:20:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 16:19:31 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Message-ID: <20140608141930.GB63655@lonrach.local> References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> X-Operating-System: MacOS X / MBP 4,1 - FreeBSD 8.0 / T3500-E5520 Nehalem User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:20:25 -0000 According to Peter Wemm: > As things stand today, more than half of the original *.cc.freebsd.org > subzones have been lost. An uncomfortable number of the remaining records > are tragically stale. > > There's also the DNSSEC and ipv6 reachability question. Many of our > cc.freebsd.org zones are ipv4-only and only one has DNSSEC signatures. \o/ for fr :) > Thoughts? How can we make this work without provoking (too many) ruffled > feathers? Although I'm the one responsible for fr.freebsd.org (for a loong time now, I have "hg log" dating back to 2007, 1998 seems to be the earliest comment in there), and it is one of the cleanest zones (DNSSEC, IPv6), it does make sense to fold it back into the main zone. So no, I don't mind, it has been fun over the years :) -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr In memoriam to Ondine : http://ondine.keltia.net/ From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 06:50:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49949A09 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mta1.riverwillow.net.au (mta1.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:1801::36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mta1.riverwillow.net.au", Issuer "Riverwillow Root Certificate 2010-04-12" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C3912AC2 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.riverwillow.net.au (mail1.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:1801::46]) by mta1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s5H6ofLw036270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:50:41 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=riverwillow.com.au; s=mta1002; t=1402987841; bh=wRmUJxVP18aXJLd7MDCNnWS0Ro0QayqecLcjYxXSEeY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=nWEaGnxnWCCFr5PVJBDDWWf2Uh64NM0od381XJQ3fLux1RBarc18K1yaIhIKTaThH oFkhjP4HIEVQ6Vjm97bXLfTu/NOr9WVQweqtyuJlqJHJqrkdLuoj+4LOYY9AbpbsDX UhFRoyjIUULbqW6HQAQ4zK4tlTUYjRlq7XVaPzQs= Received: from rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au (rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:18e1:20c:76ff:fe0a:2117]) (authenticated bits=56) by mail1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s5H6oZW4036268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:50:36 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:50:35 +1000 From: John Marshall To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Australian CVSup mirrors wave Goodbye Message-ID: <20140617065034.GF5288@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz" Content-Disposition: inline OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.com.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:50:47 -0000 --0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Australia is doing its bit to help dismantle the (sadly) now-redundant CVSup distribution infrastructure. The cvsup*.au.FreeBSD.org domain names no longer exist and contact with cvsup-master has ceased. Now that cvsup-master is no longer updated at all, and all of the repositories and collections formerly distributed via CVSup are now available exclusively via the Project's centralized subversion and rsync servers; there is no point keeping the Australian CVSup service running any longer. It was a privilege to be able to be part of the Project's distribution infrastructure for as long as it was worthwhile. Thank you for allowing us the opportunity to help. --=20 John Marshall Systems and Networks Specialist Riverwillow Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 6642 8684 Fax: +61 2 6642 8692 --0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlOf5ToACgkQw/tAaKKahKK9YQCgwxP2L3ADJsHd6zsGceBKWGtO SeUAoKlgyCPqB9+UFEHbI58D7Qo/Cidy =95dm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 11:58:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2EB037F for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw11.york.ac.uk (mail-gw11.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.150]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A2EE2C63 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:58:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ury.york.ac.uk ([144.32.64.162]:52208) by mail-gw11.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X2JBR-0002dr-3F; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:58:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:58:40 +0100 (BST) From: Gavin Atkinson X-X-Sender: gavin@ury.york.ac.uk To: Ollivier Robert Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. In-Reply-To: <20140608141930.GB63655@lonrach.local> Message-ID: References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> <20140608141930.GB63655@lonrach.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:58:49 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2014, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Peter Wemm: > > As things stand today, more than half of the original *.cc.freebsd.org > > subzones have been lost. An uncomfortable number of the remaining records > > are tragically stale. > > > > There's also the DNSSEC and ipv6 reachability question. Many of our > > cc.freebsd.org zones are ipv4-only and only one has DNSSEC signatures. > > \o/ for fr :) > > > Thoughts? How can we make this work without provoking (too many) ruffled > > feathers? > > Although I'm the one responsible for fr.freebsd.org (for a loong time now, I have "hg log" dating back to 2007, 1998 seems to be the earliest comment in there), and it is one of the cleanest zones (DNSSEC, IPv6), it does make sense to fold it back into the main zone. Sorry for the delay in replying - it would be good if we can pull this (and any other) zones back. Please send me a copy of the zone file and I'll handle the rest. > So no, I don't mind, it has been fun over the years :) Thank you for your work over the years! Gavin From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 12:37:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E31851A3; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from keltia.net (cl-90.mrs-01.fr.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:240:fe00:59::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A40012FE6; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roberto-aw.eurocontrol.fr (unknown [88.190.16.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: roberto) by keltia.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C05852A9; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:30:51 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: Gavin Atkinson Subject: Re: Future of DNS, DNSSEC, country code delegations, etc. Message-ID: <20140702123051.GC93373@roberto-aw.eurocontrol.fr> References: <530C59D7.30204@wemm.org> <20140608141930.GB63655@lonrach.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: MacOS X / Macbook Pro - FreeBSD 7.2 / Dell D820 SMP User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:37:12 -0000 According to Gavin Atkinson on Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 12:58:40PM +0100: > Sorry for the delay in replying - it would be good if we can pull this > (and any other) zones back. Please send me a copy of the zone file and > I'll handle the rest. Thanks, sent in another mail with dnsadm. > Thank you for your work over the years! Cheers, -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.net In memoriam to Ondine, our 2nd child: http://ondine.keltia.net/ From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 22:13:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4EAC892 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 22:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.indianbrokersassociation.org (mail.indianbrokersassociation.org [192.99.42.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2DC27C7 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 22:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Comment: DomainKeys? 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micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.com.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 01:47:54 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is bit0.us-west.FreeBSD.org. receiving incremental file list rsync: send_files failed to open "/www-data/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-= handbook/.book.html.TjzsXQ" (in FreeBSD-bit): Permission denied (13) sent 1,555 bytes received 294,869 bytes 23,713.92 bytes/sec total size is 915,959,879 speedup is 3,090.03 rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (c= ode 23) at main.c(1637) [generator=3D3.1.0] --=20 John Marshall --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlO7TbsACgkQw/tAaKKahKIGlQCfdXnAWz1zKfqZeh9DUfyKtRCB 9FwAnRZBwAKnBipnYkngXwRQPzQsDcD/ =RIsd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 01:49:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from hub.FreeBSD.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA14963; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 01:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:49:31 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: John Marshall Subject: Re: WWW Mirror rsync feed choking on temporary file Message-ID: <20140708014931.GB1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> References: <20140708014739.GA2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XoSOsMJQ8mz74oyx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140708014739.GA2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 01:49:35 -0000 --XoSOsMJQ8mz74oyx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John, On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:47:40AM +1000, John Marshall wrote: > This is bit0.us-west.FreeBSD.org. >=20 > receiving incremental file list > rsync: send_files failed to open "/www-data/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arc= h-handbook/.book.html.TjzsXQ" (in FreeBSD-bit): Permission denied (13) >=20 > sent 1,555 bytes received 294,869 bytes 23,713.92 bytes/sec > total size is 915,959,879 speedup is 3,090.03 > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) = (code 23) at main.c(1637) [generator=3D3.1.0] >=20 I think I saw a cronmail about this yesterday, but did not get a chance yet to fix it. I wrongly assumed it was only affecting one machine (generating the cronmail), I'll look now and remove the file. Thank you for the report. Glen --XoSOsMJQ8mz74oyx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTu04rAAoJELls3eqvi17QmVUP/38ckPGLSwOC0TT+pbL4kUSZ u8hlbMGlkYizf0ZtYQWIdcUa+1VSKHDcfs+WWCPlyjfI8/zUTYioHw42tUe4ZqUv p3HiuQiP9f72T4OUP3xX1EhTLIkhljm3jm07UQBou9Mo6B2/RHfNEA659TC6kNR3 O8SSQCgigLSeQFpnfVxoKZZcWLqUKeICHVwPqgpRukEJYw5IklJbSyD2XvhpKbG2 LvRI/hEsdFmIN672QTMTFFF7OiOeDTEZ/uMGU4pS9bgP9v/pusuP2KT/rXXeiubH 2oru+4Kxr7b2xC+ACr7CxioJ0EniaLITx8qeISnVf18zWmIpy1G6NQlNjVNAZ2kB aINVRhpuvoj2PwLzkzCOhuT4CANSOzPCIy7zwq5wuSADgPu6RGLcjvRDmMmCferI /qbp0lKGl/t1mTlpqVVwFVP9Bu88cDyVM+LTlHfjf3SMQMYBtZyViCD8ZpW9Hjuw 62ANXuKT/wfmhr2dUctOK67WblqIdu9VImECTgYeYaSk7bm9I0jCh7Y8e8pdZsEa y8Snp8GtgIhSrX0NYMSurygdRvAp+TN4scroQT0Ct0pz+h5feae+ooCkBDGGjO9R nt9htoKsYV87sIoyxgq/QXBFWLh93A6iyERadOmoHUKqjghmIH2RVyAQN20zjLNb jepKvLuVEJsmVwsld+YN =eKlK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XoSOsMJQ8mz74oyx-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 01:56:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from hub.FreeBSD.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 824F2C16; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 01:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:56:37 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: John Marshall Subject: Re: WWW Mirror rsync feed choking on temporary file Message-ID: <20140708015637.GC1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> References: <20140708014739.GA2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140708014931.GB1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mZSo2Zk6iB5ZAp9g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140708014931.GB1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 01:56:42 -0000 --mZSo2Zk6iB5ZAp9g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:49:31PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > Hi John, >=20 > On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:47:40AM +1000, John Marshall wrote: > > This is bit0.us-west.FreeBSD.org. > >=20 > > receiving incremental file list > > rsync: send_files failed to open "/www-data/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/a= rch-handbook/.book.html.TjzsXQ" (in FreeBSD-bit): Permission denied (13) > >=20 > > sent 1,555 bytes received 294,869 bytes 23,713.92 bytes/sec > > total size is 915,959,879 speedup is 3,090.03 > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors= ) (code 23) at main.c(1637) [generator=3D3.1.0] > >=20 >=20 > I think I saw a cronmail about this yesterday, but did not get a chance > yet to fix it. I wrongly assumed it was only affecting one machine > (generating the cronmail), I'll look now and remove the file. >=20 > Thank you for the report. >=20 Peter beat me to it. EVERYTHING IS FINE. :-) Glen --mZSo2Zk6iB5ZAp9g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTu0/VAAoJELls3eqvi17QnLUQANU6EwRi3TBZIQh2YMRWPCRB qOfN2yonyPLAuNBS1A5ot8TwXZ01aAOJOC6eUDLJ46P+bY5BqXCooDrCcbP9/2sC YPQEWg3wim9N/kIHQO1E6DBtqhqhg67Xst37RytO/vqZ+E9GnW7h5biVN036V/gE zVYFqRT0ejHuDMZlzhL9BRYL7r+g2WFSYDHYZ1hIcw8y+uuR9Gz6Qt3ec23GKCGT NmiiUOXbIfslXcyQxYN8Vc2whD/THEosz4RuMHTgA5AIb8QvFSMQE3csdIasyt8m J7hTvFX+61nRPxb/VUgUXNkZwnN1hvN02nVjCwSPQa3Mx3LYii2/5Qasx1ygvV5P IcuhAmB/1WfKF7HuCM1C6ARJWLWkw2JFqRkBT3orOPsVTnSTW9OKqYs5c30S/toW dffgHU8x9l3WMKK0uQAgCi90BL4ayMpLnhs5sKoSj0whIJ8ifIHUJj8IrRhZMR2a oi7Kt8lKpcI2wCeHEJPkPmiPf2U/a4uki+QihyayZ5f3CbDvh/KRPF93L9a/WCdi IFQuUcxCjV4TU46p390WMxncdBtQy7r+rg4vY1XdKhUD+oJq91HyGFNnKQ7JxDgO HPhq36O4BrhlcX6ydcrWqrb6YDtcDaUVSc1aYwcG0nKPr4f7zII9ejot0aovlUJw UBCXhOQxnEpJaHFwVqB/ =eqzU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mZSo2Zk6iB5ZAp9g-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 02:09:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C4D1274; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 02:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:39d::78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55BEA2BFA; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 02:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DF9C71; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:09:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1404785349; bh=F+yKvU5u7+qFIJwMpuOMWCu+hZ1kDlJ381IWBuBOyxk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=KxzC+JdhhErD7jSsZPJZfUB1d+FrX3Lmprz6lY8Vzv9C+kokTWSAK9vnVJPpEwIx+ KvnNUKq+QpKuNB0RpXAN3onK2xDoJuLRYic5Z/AqQvJi5te9mzbjyCl7z+miY1fzNG HRlt+TZLhuJZW/9EPvSBs9f6ccFHBOukV8A1SWoE= From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WWW Mirror rsync feed choking on temporary file Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 19:09:04 -0700 Message-ID: <7805754.tcOd2LcfSX@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20140708015637.GC1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> References: <20140708014739.GA2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140708014931.GB1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20140708015637.GC1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4284273.Dr3NtBrCgc"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: John Marshall X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 02:09:11 -0000 --nextPart4284273.Dr3NtBrCgc Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday 07 July 2014 21:56:37 Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:49:31PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > Hi John, > >=20 > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:47:40AM +1000, John Marshall wrote: > > > This is bit0.us-west.FreeBSD.org. > > >=20 > > > receiving incremental file list > > > rsync: send_files failed to open > > > "/www-data/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/.book.html.Tjz= sXQ" > > > (in FreeBSD-bit): Permission denied (13) > > >=20 > > > sent 1,555 bytes received 294,869 bytes 23,713.92 bytes/sec > > > total size is 915,959,879 speedup is 3,090.03 > > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous = errors) > > > (code 23) at main.c(1637) [generator=3D3.1.0]>=20 > > I think I saw a cronmail about this yesterday, but did not get a ch= ance > > yet to fix it. I wrongly assumed it was only affecting one machine= > > (generating the cronmail), I'll look now and remove the file. > >=20 > > Thank you for the report. >=20 > Peter beat me to it. >=20 > EVERYTHING IS FINE. :-) >=20 > Glen In short, the rsync feeding the export jail had hung and wasn't using =2D-time-limit to automatically recover. =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' or ... just won\342\200\231t do\342\200\246 --nextPart4284273.Dr3NtBrCgc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABAgAGBQJTu1LEAAoJEDXWlwnsgJ4E+8AH/iHLHsArJQqUcG9TLX/diZ0R P3kVEsO10hixTL1tdAwPPefU+6DYVpzmD2mL6uLxWpshfuuE7rkjWjFEQ2QjFHl1 H8wq70bxrHI2udJ7T8TBaEpnhJjS9tGX5+L+IYECd4YjjKXC7TkDxRmBlF1OZ6wM 6rc2SZHvw8xCO7x2bP5QQGF2klZA9NbAhdYCUvVhuvWNiRHDHsJSA1KJ4h75/VK7 TEPOFOX8SP4JTgnS42MDvIHSuFzwJZhYgeSR37N8dgIYDD94y0sqfFRgoG9qxbuI oIYe20MlQqAHeAz8qk7lQnDCIgfRLaOoCkrCdlN5sEcHvVlaT+lqhoLS06/M+bw= =prwJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4284273.Dr3NtBrCgc-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 02:12:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3F80452; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 02:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mta1.riverwillow.net.au (mta1.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:1801::36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mta1.riverwillow.net.au", Issuer "Riverwillow Root Certificate 2010-04-12" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2581E2C8A; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 02:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.riverwillow.net.au (mail1.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:1801::46]) by mta1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s682CiuE093260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:12:44 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=riverwillow.com.au; s=mta1002; t=1404785564; bh=6ArpYoHGtcXx65cPJ2Oyce5OJB75S3wlPUvrTQytMew=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=uyrFYTTYahMumX8mokjMMLXjh+XVNo7iKp/FxwMMdjWezoQUDQA5cm7Fe4YDb6lh9 MUgZBQqh9T6G5rtARIng6xN+2wpPIPDWGhs3J5tRtKlUajs5Efeo/CWG0QEeu2+QTI k7BddyDp4x9Vxyzq2twfsiJDBibrh1L2dLd3ur/Q= Received: from rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au (rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au [IPv6:2001:8000:1000:18e1:20c:76ff:fe0a:2117]) (authenticated bits=56) by mail1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s682CeAZ093259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:12:41 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:12:39 +1000 From: John Marshall To: Glen Barber Subject: Re: WWW Mirror rsync feed choking on temporary file Message-ID: <20140708021238.GB2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> Mail-Followup-To: Glen Barber , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org References: <20140708014739.GA2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140708014931.GB1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20140708015637.GC1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MW5yreqqjyrRcusr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140708015637.GC1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.com.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 02:12:49 -0000 --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, 21:56 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > Peter beat me to it. >=20 > EVERYTHING IS FINE. :-) >=20 > Glen Thank you Glen and Peter. Do you plan to upgrade rsync to 3.1.1 on bit0? 3.1.1 clients are pulling the files without compression. --=20 John Marshall --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlO7U5YACgkQw/tAaKKahKKjAQCgqArjLJGqe2FM3uRyBIpoJ9g4 gOoAn1YCKL9NZk2cbU59L3XlrkPZboNa =7nM5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 02:41:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from hub.FreeBSD.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B2F49BF; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 02:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:41:00 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: John Marshall Subject: Re: WWW Mirror rsync feed choking on temporary file Message-ID: <20140708024100.GD1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> References: <20140708014739.GA2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140708014931.GB1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20140708015637.GC1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20140708021238.GB2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nDtE8k2pYjsRXajv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140708021238.GB2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 X-SCUD-Definition: Sudden Completely Unexpected Dataloss X-SULE-Definition: Sudden Unexpected Learning Event User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 02:41:04 -0000 --nDtE8k2pYjsRXajv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:12:39PM +1000, John Marshall wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, 21:56 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > Peter beat me to it. > >=20 > > EVERYTHING IS FINE. :-) > >=20 >=20 > Thank you Glen and Peter. >=20 > Do you plan to upgrade rsync to 3.1.1 on bit0? 3.1.1 clients are > pulling the files without compression. >=20 I think this should happen during the next round of updates. Glen --nDtE8k2pYjsRXajv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTu1o8AAoJELls3eqvi17QJVIP/jPlmMaFRubnVcAWk9yN5l/z C8Y7zIU6oEO9Kgc3tplSXUy9DdukLS8GL57h8d8Qzp6WdtWZo85+RBAeqScBtjgQ 5F4n6sJbSOsnnnr4uZ02FCYXtvZqcPLK4Ax2sQAhwbwVQTy//kiMHKPg7qvhPqWW rYcquKAYNw/xZZ8hbHpyQ2n4NEBd3Ld0TtviX+sXbnmEKbBkcKIr0tcnv5/rg9YQ vOAGnNa4eX90un14ZvhcWlhLBgym6tegwK1bEmLZ2G2bBlKoCqTGg5mAur5w3meT NLLmRopG0sJoTCKNNwc2Vrs42SEIznH2kCoeDssMBAe1v465NMBFhTuBTb7t/ur/ mLPAZLCzv9wbVwMVzJ1yCzF9wFzn/0mTDDrGFJC2dt62FDooYrRsWeBKjF28fyOZ U1N1YLerHb7vCghfdACLJMkuum/gOKO3DIrB9N0UGhrbXf1cnXHZx2lv5wvOM13U i9A72WKIpijYWOsnnpb+U1FygtYBK/GkrcvInOCX0Wqdfe5BUL1v3k9TcTPEIMd/ JZyCpCWi/D3fsEA73dZR/USSYQ83bzULiu5kft/aTuKXPys7791IH0VB8vY7c4Kt D8FuHcldWjRA2cs7CkgDZnozzSXNi1BaIZGi7OGw1ZmN8WCR9a47iIXSRtTIvgZ8 JRbGqlcHFr1mmFgVZcR0 =jdbG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nDtE8k2pYjsRXajv-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 03:29:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2EB97CD; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 03:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:39d::78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBFF422F4; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 03:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5021CCB7; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:29:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1404790173; bh=VWMvzmmasSTKuYZLLDXnCfAHlOxFOuTcQ2Ir6uRxxNs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=Jw8uDKi8jon9YmTrb6fKlzfxlXO5kesJoMLL3wgaUevaFdAkjWJqG0E63npmn4SP5 FeFdUfe2rik1B98aYQHQvcOc2TGbEXusOPNmAAsk37Et7yYDFyiOEXoYXT+hiHxM6q xHTXnvUSRqQhjjk9+mFuDTVSAgQ+YASRWl0h/BAE= From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WWW Mirror rsync feed choking on temporary file Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:29:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3245710.NnJgYxNyQk@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20140708024100.GD1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> References: <20140708014739.GA2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140708021238.GB2755@rwpc15.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20140708024100.GD1216@hub.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2677181.NGGz2z84yt"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: John Marshall X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 03:29:35 -0000 --nextPart2677181.NGGz2z84yt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday 07 July 2014 22:41:00 Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:12:39PM +1000, John Marshall wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, 21:56 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > > Peter beat me to it. > > >=20 > > > EVERYTHING IS FINE. :-) > >=20 > > Thank you Glen and Peter. > >=20 > > Do you plan to upgrade rsync to 3.1.1 on bit0? 3.1.1 clients are > > pulling the files without compression. >=20 > I think this should happen during the next round of updates. >=20 > Glen I did that one manually because of the compression thing. ftp-master t= oo. =20 Being able to handle both compression variants is important now that th= e=20 updated rsync packages are going out. Note: I turned off ZLIB_BASE too or rsync gets very noisy on stdout/std= err=20 since the compression workaround is baked into the built-in version of = zlib. =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' or ... just won\342\200\231t do\342\200\246 --nextPart2677181.NGGz2z84yt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Server is listening on http and ftp on both ipv4 and ipv6, I can add rsync = if required (we do it for Debian and Gentoo already) I'm running rsync -vaHz --delete rsync://ftp3.de.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD/ /path= /to/my/anonftp/and/www/root to update it atm and will stick that in a bash = script to be ran by cron. Is there anything further required to bring this up to standards ? Regards, Maciej Bonin Systems Engineer | M247 Limited 2116 Internal M247.com=A0=A0Connected with our Customers Contact us today to discuss your hosting and connectivity requirements ISO 27001 | ISO 9001 | Deloitte Technology Fast 50 | Deloitte Technology Fa= st 500 EMEA | Sunday Times Tech Track 100 M247 Ltd, registered in England & Wales #4968341. 1 Ball Green, Cobra Court= , Manchester, M32 0QT =A0 ISO 27001 Data Protection Classification: A -=A0Public =A0 From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 14 22:35:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FB39C0B for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x22f.google.com (mail-vc0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0450F2B28 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hu12so3490302vcb.34 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9yboDqNOQvVSJf/QzJLnJ80akRzeG3aqoCpFU4B+04I=; b=cdDGJSo6OONRkcutM0vKkc3wrNdCU0KOnNMgafu8VMMi7b1XNDbuQAAjEOG23ruHtC jp++o8Yp6CLO8P2anQZesUUJxzanbgeSvxRmKGl3Y3lr1FL0SJQiSnZx45ZsNdAWK+UY XLXhtURBSSAfUGqh4xv2dW/c5jA1/6dB+ZfNccoIEMzUG87Nl/tku/qZzqFmoOlc3Qrh XYaUBUAvJdsSrUoAvhE/VeJyK9jBu87ltLrltC2YLfYJz2b0NBhJARFchqYIW0zZwTvt HKGBf69nr4GJM3Cvgp7wicvUGC8zWG5U1hj8Or4xPE9l1C6oUsMmtnXyjwQl6+No8Oyb azwA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.160.67 with SMTP id m3mr2567223vcx.56.1405377306086; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.65.198 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:35:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD Mailarchive rsync From: grarpamp To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:35:07 -0000 The monthly rotation has long been broken for 5 months. So we end up with obnoxious files, even approaching the 2GiB limit. These raw archives are invaluable for local use to search discussion in custom local fashion and should obviously be continued. It is not perhaps strictly required to split these 5 months, but can someone at least reinstate the rotation please? bit0.us-west.freebsd.org/FreeBSD-mailarchive MiB >= 50 1334 freebsd-pkg-fallout 99 svn-ports-all 98 svn-ports-head 56 freebsd-ports-bugs 53 svn-src-all