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         Hi,

         I have used freeb up to 9 release by now. I now installed 
FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE and I am very disappointed with the new jail setup.
         One of the reasons is that using devfs_ruleset  has no effect 
in jail.conf.
example:

DDNS {
host.hostname  = "DDNS";
ip4.addr = "192.168.5.10";
ip4 = "inherit";
path = "/usr/local/JAIL/DDCLIENT/";
exec.start = "/bin/ddstart.sh &";
exec.consolelog = "/var/log/jail.DDNS.console.log";
devfs_ruleset = "5";
mount.devfs;
}


and devfs.rules:
[devfsrules_jailddns=5]
add hide
add path random unhide
add path urandom unhide


The result is mounting the hole jail tree in the jail... So much for 
security in this release.

Even using the old jail setup in rc.conf , the /etc/rc.d/jail fails to 
hide dev and mounts dev tree untouched under the jail:

jail_DDNS_rootdir="/usr/local/JAIL/DDCLIENT/"
jail_DDNS_hostname="DDNS"
jail_DDNS_ip="192.168.5.10"
jail_DDNS_exec_start="/bin/ddstart.sh &"
jail_DDNS_devfs_enable="YES"
jail_DDNS_devfs_ruleset="5"




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On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 09:11:43 +0200
Folder wrote:

>         Hi,
> 
>         I have used freeb up to 9 release by now. I now installed
> FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE and I am very disappointed with the new jail
> setup.
>         One of the reasons is that using devfs_ruleset  has no effect
> in jail.conf.

You obviously have to add 

devfs_load_rulesets="YES"

to /etc/rc.conf and restart devfs.

-- 
Herbert

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S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

19 problems total.


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S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

19 problems total.


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o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

20 problems total.


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S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

20 problems total.


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Hiya,

I am trying to allow a jail to do X forwarding ala ssh -Y, but seem to be
missing something.  I have narrowed it down to something with the jail, having
successfully done this with non-jails.  IOW, sshd_config has "X11Forwarding
yes" etc.  The system is fbsd 9.2-STABLE.  The jail is set up using ezjail.  I
have tweaked various jail sysctl settings in case there was something there I
was missing.  I disabled the firewall rules to removed potential interference
from that angle.  All to no avail.  I keep getting ye olde

    xclock
    X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
    Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0

What am I missing?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Schultz [mailto:schulra@earlham.edu]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:17 PM
> To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
> Subject: jails and X forwarding
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> I am trying to allow a jail to do X forwarding ala ssh -Y, but seem to be
missing
> something.  I have narrowed it down to something with the jail, having
> successfully done this with non-jails.  IOW, sshd_config has
"X11Forwarding
> yes" etc.  The system is fbsd 9.2-STABLE.  The jail is set up using
ezjail.  I have
> tweaked various jail sysctl settings in case there was something there I
was
> missing.  I disabled the firewall rules to removed potential interference
from
> that angle.  All to no avail.  I keep getting ye olde
> 
>     xclock
>     X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
>     Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
[Devin Teske] 

Try installing xauth.
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote:

-}
-}> I am trying to allow a jail to do X forwarding ala ssh -Y, but seem to be
-}missing
-}> something.  I have narrowed it down to something with the jail, having
-}> successfully done this with non-jails.  IOW, sshd_config has
-}"X11Forwarding
-}> yes" etc.  The system is fbsd 9.2-STABLE.  The jail is set up using
-}ezjail.  I have
-}> tweaked various jail sysctl settings in case there was something there I
-}was
-}> missing.  I disabled the firewall rules to removed potential interference
-}from
-}> that angle.  All to no avail.  I keep getting ye olde
-}> 
-}>     xclock
-}>     X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
-}>     Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
-}> 
-}> What am I missing?
-}> 
-}[Devin Teske] 
-}
-}Try installing xauth.

Ah, I had already done that:

Dude ? pkg_info|egrep xauth
xauth-1.0.8         X authority file utility


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> -}
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jail,
> having -}> successfully done this with non-jails.  IOW, sshd_config has -
> }"X11Forwarding -}> yes" etc.  The system is fbsd 9.2-STABLE.  The jail is
set
> up using -}ezjail.  I have -}> tweaked various jail sysctl settings in
case there
> was something there I -}was -}> missing.  I disabled the firewall rules to
> removed potential interference -}from -}> that angle.  All to no avail.  I
keep
> getting ye olde -}>
> -}>     xclock
> -}>     X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
> -}>     Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
> -}>
> -}> What am I missing?
> -}>
> -}[Devin Teske]
> -}
> -}Try installing xauth.
> 
> Ah, I had already done that:
> 
> Dude ? pkg_info|egrep xauth
> xauth-1.0.8         X authority file utility
> 

Dunno what to say. Sounds like a regression because I'm X11
forwarding off of jails every day.

Admittedly, the jails I'm using are FreeBSD-8. Some of these
FreeBSD-8 jails are running under a FreeBSD-9 host. I'm using
both Xming on Windows and Xserver on Mac OS X.
-- 
Devin

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o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

20 problems total.


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Hi!

Im running a few jails on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE (amd64) but I cant get=20
bsnmpd to work inside
a jail. It has worked in the past but that was FreeBSD 9.

its a standard bsnmpd config without any large changes to the config.=20
The exact same configs works fine when run outside a jail.

# /usr/sbin/bsnmpd -d -p /var/run/snmpd.pid
snmpd[38890]: disk_OS_get_disks: adding device 'cd0' to device list
snmpd[38890]: disk_OS_get_disks: adding device 'da2' to device list
snmpd[38890]: disk_OS_get_disks: adding device 'da1' to device list
snmpd[38890]: disk_OS_get_disks: adding device 'da0' to device list
snmpd[38890]: Failed to connect socket for /var/run/devd.pipe: No such=20
file or directory

snmpd[38890]: sendmsg: Invalid argument         # I get these when i try =

to snmpwalk.
snmpd[38890]: sendmsg: Invalid argument
snmpd[38890]: sendmsg: Invalid argument

truss says:
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.999936 })           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507232.011776 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507232.011836 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.999940 })           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507233.012739 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507233.012801 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.999938 })           =3D 1 (0x1)
recvmsg(0xc,0x7fffffffac40,0x0,0x7fffffffaca0,0x801c23010,0x2) =3D 43 (0x=
2b)
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x0,0x0)                   =3D 0 (0x0)
open("/etc/hosts.allow",O_RDONLY,0666)           =3D 14 (0xe)
fstat(14,{ mode=3D-rw-r--r-- ,inode=3D3849888,size=3D18,blksize=3D4096 })=
 =3D 0 (0x0)
read(14,"ALL : ALL : allow\n",4096)              =3D 18 (0x12)
close(14)                                        =3D 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0)                 =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507233.562291 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
sendmsg(0xc,0x7ffffffe1120,0x0,0x5cea9fbe35c62e6e,0x3,0x2) ERR#22=20
'Invalid argument'
clock_gettime(13,{1395507233.000000000 })        =3D 0 (0x0)
getpid()                                         =3D 38997 (0x9855)
snmpd[38997]: sendmsg: Invalid argument
writev(0x2,0x7ffffffe0320,0x2,0xffffffffffffffec,0x14,0x800f98370) =3D 40=
=20
(0x28)
sendto(8,"<11>Mar 22 17:53:53 snmpd[38997]"...,59,0x0,NULL,0x0) =3D 59 (0=
x3b)
gettimeofday({1395507233.562815 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507233.562869 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.449870 })           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507234.041473 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507234.041535 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.948960 })           =3D 1 (0x1)
recvmsg(0xc,0x7fffffffac40,0x0,0x7fffffffaca0,0x64,0x0) =3D 43 (0x2b)
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,0x0,0x0)                   =3D 0 (0x0)
open("/etc/hosts.allow",O_RDONLY,0666)           =3D 14 (0xe)
fstat(14,{ mode=3D-rw-r--r-- ,inode=3D3849888,size=3D18,blksize=3D4096 })=
 =3D 0 (0x0)
read(14,"ALL : ALL : allow\n",4096)              =3D 18 (0x12)
close(14)                                        =3D 0 (0x0)
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0)                 =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507234.567052 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
sendmsg(0xc,0x7ffffffe1120,0x0,0x5cea9fbe35c62e6e,0x3,0x2) ERR#22=20
'Invalid argument'
clock_gettime(13,{1395507234.000000000 })        =3D 0 (0x0)
getpid()
snmpd[38997]: sendmsg: Invalid argument
writev(0x2,0x7ffffffe0320,0x2,0xffffffffffffffec,0x14,0x800f98370) =3D 40=
=20
(0x28)
sendto(8,"<11>Mar 22 17:53:54 snmpd[38997]"...,59,0x0,NULL,0x0) =3D 59 (0=
x3b)
gettimeofday({1395507234.567457 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507234.567512 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.422983 })           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.010734 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffafc0,0x2,0x7fffffffb000,0x7fffffffaff8,0x8030855ea,0x1=
7)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffb000,0x4,0x7fffffffb0d8,0x7fffffffb0a8,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 =
(0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffafc0,0x2,0x7fffffffb000,0x7fffffffaff8,0x803085602,0x1=
8)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffb000,0x4,0x7fffffffb0d8,0x7fffffffb0a8,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 =
(0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffafc0,0x2,0x7fffffffb000,0x7fffffffaff8,0x80308561b,0x1=
3)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffb000,0x4,0x7fffffffb0d8,0x7fffffffb0a8,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 =
(0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffafc0,0x2,0x7fffffffb000,0x7fffffffaff8,0x80308562f,0x1=
4)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffb000,0x4,0x7fffffffb0d8,0x7fffffffb0a8,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 =
(0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffafe0,0x2,0x7fffffffb020,0x7fffffffb018,0x803085644,0xc=
)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffb020,0x2,0x803294a00,0x7fffffffb0e0,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 (0x=
0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.011369 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
clock_gettime(4,{335225.177478505 })             =3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffac20,0x2,0x7fffffffac60,0x7fffffffac58,0x803c03cf3,0x1=
4)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffac60,0x3,0x7fffffffad04,0x7fffffffad08,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 =
(0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffac80,0x2,0x7fffffffacc0,0x7fffffffacb8,0x803c03efb,0x1=
0)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffacc0,0x3,0x801c99600,0x7fffffffad98,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 (0x=
0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffac20,0x2,0x7fffffffac60,0x7fffffffac58,0x803c03cf3,0x1=
4)=20
=3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffac60,0x3,0x7fffffffad04,0x7fffffffad08,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 =
(0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.011811 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.011868 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.011915 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.011959 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
open("/dev/null",O_CLOEXEC,00)                   =3D 14 (0xe)
fstat(14,{ mode=3Dcrw-rw-rw- ,inode=3D20,size=3D0,blksize=3D4096 }) =3D 0=
 (0x0)
open("/dev/null",O_CLOEXEC,00)                   =3D 15 (0xf)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffa880,0x3,0x0,0x7fffffffa870,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 (0x0)
__sysctl(0x7fffffffa880,0x3,0x801d92000,0x7fffffffa870,0x0,0x0) =3D 0 (0x=
0)
close(14)                                        =3D 0 (0x0)
close(15)                                        =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.015009 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.015057 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.015106 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.026367 })           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.043455 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507235.043505 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.999950 })           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507236.062471 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507236.062525 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
select(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.999946 })           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507237.065759 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
gettimeofday({1395507237.065819 },0x0)           =3D 0 (0x0)
^Cselect(14,{4 12 13},{},{},{0.999940 })                 ERR#4=20
'Interrupted system call'
SIGNAL 2 (SIGINT)
unlink("/var/run/snmpd.pid")                     =3D 0 (0x0)
lstat("/var/run/snmpd.sock",{ mode=3Dsrw-rw-rw-=20
,inode=3D4965221,size=3D0,blksize=3D131072 }) =3D 0 (0x0)
unlink("/var/run/snmpd.sock")                    =3D 0 (0x0)





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o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

20 problems total.


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o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

20 problems total.


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o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

20 problems total.


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 Hi,
 
 you can add the following line to your /etc/rc.conf
 
 devfs_load_rulesets="YES"
 
 and run '/etc/rc.d/devfs restart'.
 
 Or check /etc/defaults/rc.conf:
 
 devfs_rulesets="/etc/defaults/devfs.rules /etc/devfs.rules" # Files containing
                                                             # devfs(8) rules.
 devfs_system_ruleset="" # The name (NOT number) of a ruleset to apply to /dev
 devfs_set_rulesets=""   # A list of /mount/dev=ruleset_name settings to
                         # apply (must be mounted already, i.e. fstab(5))
 devfs_load_rulesets="NO"        # Enable to always load the default rulesets
 
 -- 
 Herbert

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o kern/188753  jail       [jail] mount devfs ruleset ignored
o kern/188018  jail       [jail] [vimage] Running pfctl -sr -v in Jail with VIMA
o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/186360  jail       [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn't mount dev
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

23 problems total.


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o kern/188753  jail       [jail] mount devfs ruleset ignored
o kern/188018  jail       [jail] [vimage] Running pfctl -sr -v in Jail with VIMA
o kern/187079  jail       [jail] devfs_load_rulesets has to be enabled for mount
o kern/186360  jail       [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn't mount dev
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

23 problems total.


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Try QJail.
http://qjail.sourceforge.net/

There is a good "howto" section listed here.
http://qjail.sourceforge.net/Qjail-howto.html

If I can manage it, anyone can..
(I'm running on F'BSD 9.2)

Yes, like ezJail, the base jail takes up a bit of space, but others built on that take 
up a lot less, unless you load them up with stuff of course.

Updating is not that dificult either.

Regards.

Dave B.

> W dniu 2014-01-12 10:09, wishmaster pisze:
> 
> >> I would also recommend ezjails. Using fat jails is often completely
> >> unnecessary.
> >  
> >  Do you think using ezjail you will obtain "thin" jails? You are
> >  wrong. Setup 5...10 jails for applications: one jail for
> >  web-applications on php, one for java and so on. And you will see
> >  how your jails will be FAT! And now imagine update system and
> >  software procedure. So, if you need a lot of "light" isolation
> >  containers, ezjail is not your way. I use self written scripts
> >  which creates one base system with all needed packages and a lot of
> >  "containers" with vnet supports and with "security in mind".
> >  Upgrading is very easy, just one jail.
> 
> Sounds nice, maybe write some blog post or even a more detailed mail
> to this list with some how-to? I'm sure many people would find this
> very interesting.
> 
> -- 
> best regards,
> Lukasz Wasikowski
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W dniu 2014-05-01 11:39, Dave B pisze:

> Try QJail.
> http://qjail.sourceforge.net/
> 
> There is a good "howto" section listed here.
> http://qjail.sourceforge.net/Qjail-howto.html
> 
> If I can manage it, anyone can..
> (I'm running on F'BSD 9.2)
> 
> Yes, like ezJail, the base jail takes up a bit of space, but others built on that take 
> up a lot less, unless you load them up with stuff of course.
> 
> Updating is not that dificult either.

I don't want to use qjail, especially after reading all this thread:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail//2013-March/002147.html

BTW: Please, don't top post.

-- 
best regards,
Lukasz Wasikowski

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Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o bin/189139   jail       [patch] fix bug in jail(8) variable substitution
o kern/188753  jail       [jail] mount devfs ruleset ignored
o kern/188495  jail       [jail] /etc/rc.d/jail, ezjail and Linux jails don't wo
o kern/188018  jail       [jail] [vimage] Running pfctl -sr -v in Jail with VIMA
o kern/186360  jail       [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn't mount dev
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o bin/181794   jail       jexec(8) runs commands in Jails without taking into ac
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

25 problems total.


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Hi,

I do some experimenting with jails at the moment on a FreeBSD 10.0
machine. The jails are all setup manually according to the handbook and
man jail. Each jail gets a name and an IP address. Individual ports are
then installed via the ports tree.

X is running on the host system. Telnet is used to connect to the jails.

When I install now firefox in a jail and also in the host system, I get
the following behaviour.

Scene A

Firefox runs already on the host system. I start then firefox inside
the jail firefox. It all seems fine as long as I do not use the history
or want to save the visited page. The jailed firefox sees then the
history of the firefox running on the host.

Scene B

Firefox is first started inside the jail firefox. When then the host
system also starts a firefox, this firefox sees now the history and the
filesystem of the jailed firefox.

Is it X that allows the jailed firefox to communicate directly with
firefox running directly on the host?

Is there then a way to secure the system?

I have tried then programs like gedit or kate and saw only the
behaviour I expected. Both programs either saw only resources from
inside the jail or from outside but never resources from the other side
of the fence.

Erich

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Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I do some experimenting with jails at the moment on a FreeBSD 10.0
> machine. The jails are all setup manually according to the handbook and
> man jail. Each jail gets a name and an IP address. Individual ports are
> then installed via the ports tree.
> 
> X is running on the host system. Telnet is used to connect to the jails.
> 
> When I install now firefox in a jail and also in the host system, I get
> the following behaviour.
> 
> Scene A
> 
> Firefox runs already on the host system. I start then firefox inside
> the jail firefox. It all seems fine as long as I do not use the history
> or want to save the visited page. The jailed firefox sees then the
> history of the firefox running on the host.
> 
> Scene B
> 
> Firefox is first started inside the jail firefox. When then the host
> system also starts a firefox, this firefox sees now the history and the
> filesystem of the jailed firefox.
> 
> Is it X that allows the jailed firefox to communicate directly with
> firefox running directly on the host?
> 
> Is there then a way to secure the system?
> 
> I have tried then programs like gedit or kate and saw only the
> behaviour I expected. Both programs either saw only resources from
> inside the jail or from outside but never resources from the other side
> of the fence.
> 

firefox has to be installed where you have xorg and your desktop 
installed. Installing firefox in a jail be it self does nothing.
What you think you are seeing is wrong. ssh into jail having firefox is 
not running firefox. ssh into the host where xorg and desktop and 
firefox is the only to have firefox work to the best of my knowledge.





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On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com
> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I do some experimenting with jails at the moment on a FreeBSD 10.0
> machine. The jails are all setup manually according to the handbook and
> man jail. Each jail gets a name and an IP address. Individual ports are
> then installed via the ports tree.
>
> X is running on the host system. Telnet is used to connect to the jails.
>
> When I install now firefox in a jail and also in the host system, I get
> the following behaviour.
>
> Scene A
>
> Firefox runs already on the host system. I start then firefox inside
> the jail firefox. It all seems fine as long as I do not use the history
> or want to save the visited page. The jailed firefox sees then the
> history of the firefox running on the host.
>
> Scene B
>
> Firefox is first started inside the jail firefox. When then the host
> system also starts a firefox, this firefox sees now the history and the
> filesystem of the jailed firefox.
>
> Is it X that allows the jailed firefox to communicate directly with
> firefox running directly on the host?
>
> Is there then a way to secure the system?
>
> I have tried then programs like gedit or kate and saw only the
> behaviour I expected. Both programs either saw only resources from
> inside the jail or from outside but never resources from the other side
> of the fence.
>
> Erich
>

Firefox is a strange beast in regarads to running it on a remote host.

It needs to be started as firefox --no-remote to not find "local running"
instance and connect to it. How that happens I don't know...

Best regards
Andreas

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Hi,

On Mon, 05 May 2014 08:22:37 -0400
Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:

> Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I do some experimenting with jails at the moment on a FreeBSD 10.0
> > machine. The jails are all setup manually according to the handbook
> > and man jail. Each jail gets a name and an IP address. Individual
> > ports are then installed via the ports tree.
> > 
> > X is running on the host system. Telnet is used to connect to the
> > jails.
> > 
> > When I install now firefox in a jail and also in the host system, I
> > get the following behaviour.
> > 
> > Scene A
> > 
> > Firefox runs already on the host system. I start then firefox inside
> > the jail firefox. It all seems fine as long as I do not use the
> > history or want to save the visited page. The jailed firefox sees
> > then the history of the firefox running on the host.
> > 
> > Scene B
> > 
> > Firefox is first started inside the jail firefox. When then the host
> > system also starts a firefox, this firefox sees now the history and
> > the filesystem of the jailed firefox.
> > 
> > Is it X that allows the jailed firefox to communicate directly with
> > firefox running directly on the host?
> > 
> > Is there then a way to secure the system?
> > 
> > I have tried then programs like gedit or kate and saw only the
> > behaviour I expected. Both programs either saw only resources from
> > inside the jail or from outside but never resources from the other
> > side of the fence.
> > 
> 
> firefox has to be installed where you have xorg and your desktop 
> installed. Installing firefox in a jail be it self does nothing.
> What you think you are seeing is wrong. ssh into jail having firefox
> is not running firefox. ssh into the host where xorg and desktop and 
> firefox is the only to have firefox work to the best of my knowledge.
> 
as you can see, I have realised my mistake with the mailing list.

Ok, why is this so? How can firefox started inside a jail see the
firefox from outside.

As I am travelling most of my time, I only have my notebook. If I
remember right, I used to have in the office a small FreeBSD server
which was running as an application server. When I started firefox
there via telnet on the other machine, it worked as expected. The
remote firefox saw only the 'remote' machine and the local firefox
saw only the local machine. Shouldn't it be the same with a jailed
firefox?

Erich

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Hi,

On Mon, 5 May 2014 14:27:23 +0200
Andreas Nilsson <andrnils@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Erich Dollansky
> <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com
> > wrote:
> 
> 
> Firefox is a strange beast in regarads to running it on a remote host.
> 
> It needs to be started as firefox --no-remote to not find "local
> running" instance and connect to it. How that happens I don't know...
> 
thanks, that is the solution. It seems that I used this before but
forgot about it.

Erich

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Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o bin/189139   jail       [patch] fix bug in jail(8) variable substitution
o kern/188753  jail       [jail] mount devfs ruleset ignored
o kern/188495  jail       [jail] /etc/rc.d/jail, ezjail and Linux jails don't wo
o kern/188018  jail       [jail] [vimage] Running pfctl -sr -v in Jail with VIMA
o kern/186360  jail       [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn't mount dev
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o bin/181794   jail       jexec(8) runs commands in Jails without taking into ac
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

25 problems total.


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Hi,

I'm currently in process of development of new tool for easy jail 
administration with zfs and vimage/vnet(bridge epair interface) support
The idea is to have a single application (python script) without any 
other confg files and customization
This tool is written on Python, also work only with vnet, zfs and 
FreeBSD 10 (probably will work on FreeBSD 9.1 but i never test it)
JADM work only with native /etc/jail.conf
When is started for first time jadm generate new /etc/jail.conf in 
special format developed by me.
jail.conf file can be used and without JADM.

for more information please contact me or visit: 
https://github.com/NikolayDachev/jadm

JADM is in development status more of functions work normal (with bugs 
but work :)).

Unfortunately i don't have a lot of time for it so i need test users.
At the moment last function for JADM is to support skeleton jail model 
(similar to ezjail with base jail and etc.)
This function is still in progress meanwhile, if someone have a time to 
test all other functions and to report any issue, bug or ideas




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 Date: 13 May 2014, 08:18:21
  


> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently in process of development of new tool for easy jail 
> administration with zfs and vimage/vnet(bridge epair interface) support
> The idea is to have a single application (python script) without any 
> other confg files and customization
> This tool is written on Python, also work only with vnet, zfs and 
> FreeBSD 10 (probably will work on FreeBSD 9.1 but i never test it)
> JADM work only with native /etc/jail.conf
> When is started for first time jadm generate new /etc/jail.conf in 
> special format developed by me.
> jail.conf file can be used and without JADM.
> 
> for more information please contact me or visit: 
> https://github.com/NikolayDachev/jadm
> 
> JADM is in development status more of functions work normal (with bugs 
> but work :)).
> 
> Unfortunately i don't have a lot of time for it so i need test users.
> At the moment last function for JADM is to support skeleton jail model 
> (similar to ezjail with base jail and etc.)
> This function is still in progress meanwhile, if someone have a time to 
> test all other functions and to report any issue, bug or ideas
> 
  This is good idea. But..
  Skeleton mode is fine, but model implemented in ezjail is awful. You must install software in each jail. Therefore if I have 2 or more jails, I must install/upgrade/test software in each jail! Oh my God.
 IMHO, true 'lite' jail model is: have one basejail with installed soft and the rest jails - with own /var, /tmp and so on.
 I use this model.

Cheers,
Vit

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W dniu 2014-05-13 08:13, wishmaster pisze:

>  --- Original message ---
>  From: freebsd_jail@dachev.info
>  Date: 13 May 2014, 08:18:21

>> I'm currently in process of development of new tool for easy jail 
>> administration with zfs and vimage/vnet(bridge epair interface) support
>> The idea is to have a single application (python script) without any 
>> other confg files and customization
>> This tool is written on Python, also work only with vnet, zfs and 
>> FreeBSD 10 (probably will work on FreeBSD 9.1 but i never test it)
>> JADM work only with native /etc/jail.conf
>> When is started for first time jadm generate new /etc/jail.conf in 
>> special format developed by me.
>> jail.conf file can be used and without JADM.
>>
>> for more information please contact me or visit: 
>> https://github.com/NikolayDachev/jadm
>>
>> JADM is in development status more of functions work normal (with bugs 
>> but work :)).
>>
>> Unfortunately i don't have a lot of time for it so i need test users.
>> At the moment last function for JADM is to support skeleton jail model 
>> (similar to ezjail with base jail and etc.)
>> This function is still in progress meanwhile, if someone have a time to 
>> test all other functions and to report any issue, bug or ideas

>   This is good idea. But..
>   Skeleton mode is fine, but model implemented in ezjail is awful. You must install software in each jail. Therefore if I have 2 or more jails, I must install/upgrade/test software in each jail! Oh my God.
>  IMHO, true 'lite' jail model is: have one basejail with installed soft and the rest jails - with own /var, /tmp and so on.
>  I use this model.

It all depends on what you really need. There are a bunch of us who need
"thin" jails - just like you describe it. And there are people who need
customized jails (which ezjail or jadm can provide). With pkg(8)
upgrading bunch of jails is an easy task, just go with:

jls jid | xargs -oI% pkg -j % upgrade

-- 
best regards,
Lukasz Wasikowski

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freebsd_jail@dachev.info wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently in process of development of new tool for easy jail 
> administration with zfs and vimage/vnet(bridge epair interface) support
> The idea is to have a single application (python script) without any 
> other confg files and customization
> This tool is written on Python, also work only with vnet, zfs and 
> FreeBSD 10 (probably will work on FreeBSD 9.1 but i never test it)
> JADM work only with native /etc/jail.conf
> When is started for first time jadm generate new /etc/jail.conf in 
> special format developed by me.
> jail.conf file can be used and without JADM.
> 
> for more information please contact me or visit: 
> https://github.com/NikolayDachev/jadm
> 
> JADM is in development status more of functions work normal (with bugs 
> but work :)).
> 
> Unfortunately i don't have a lot of time for it so i need test users.
> At the moment last function for JADM is to support skeleton jail model 
> (similar to ezjail with base jail and etc.)
> This function is still in progress meanwhile, if someone have a time to 
> test all other functions and to report any issue, bug or ideas
> 
> 
> 

I think you have made some poor basic design choices.

1. Requiring python as a dependent. Thats a lot of overhead just for a 
script. Not a show stopper, but a csh script would have been better.

2. Using the highly experimental "vimage" as the cornerstone of the over 
all design. Vimage has many long standing PRs, does not work with any of 
the firewalls, has NO maintainer, requires a custom kernel to enable.
This is a major show stopper. Can not risk a production jail environment 
on highly experimental software. Even if vimage gets a maintainer, all 
the firewalls need to be updated to play nice in an vimage environment, 
and there are existing PRs to that effect which the firewall maintainers 
are reluctant to address because of vimage's status as highly 
experimental. What your trying to do may never bare fruit due to things 
totally out of your control.

3. Should use the allow_zfs option of jail(8) instead of embedded native 
zfs commands.

With surgery JADM could become a ZFS admin script, there is a need for 
that and one does not exist that I know of.




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On 2014-05-13 07:11, fbsd8@a1poweruser.com wrote:
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> I think you have made some poor basic design choices.
> 

Let him scratch his itch. Maybe it solves a problem you haven't 
encountered yet?

> 1. Requiring python as a dependent. Thats a lot of overhead just for a
> script. Not a show stopper, but a csh script would have been better.
> 

csh is a horrible scripting language. I think you mean POSIX sh. But 
either way, Python is slowly becoming the language of choice for 
utilities...



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On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:

> Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com <mailto:
>> fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     freebsd_jail@dachev.info <mailto:freebsd_jail@dachev.info> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         I'm currently in process of development of new tool for easy
>>         jail administration with zfs and vimage/vnet(bridge epair
>>         interface) support
>>         The idea is to have a single application (python script) without
>>         any other confg files and customization
>>         This tool is written on Python, also work only with vnet, zfs
>>         and FreeBSD 10 (probably will work on FreeBSD 9.1 but i never
>>         test it)
>>         JADM work only with native /etc/jail.conf
>>         When is started for first time jadm generate new /etc/jail.conf
>>         in special format developed by me.
>>         jail.conf file can be used and without JADM.
>>
>>         for more information please contact me or visit:
>>         https://github.com/__NikolayDachev/jadm
>>
>>         <https://github.com/NikolayDachev/jadm>
>>
>>         JADM is in development status more of functions work normal
>>         (with bugs but work :)).
>>
>>         Unfortunately i don't have a lot of time for it so i need test
>>         users.
>>         At the moment last function for JADM is to support skeleton jail
>>         model (similar to ezjail with base jail and etc.)
>>         This function is still in progress meanwhile, if someone have a
>>         time to test all other functions and to report any issue, bug or
>>         ideas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     I think you have made some poor basic design choices.
>>
>>     1. Requiring python as a dependent. Thats a lot of overhead just for
>>     a script. Not a show stopper, but a csh script would have been better.
>>
>> Why is csh better than sh?
>>
>>     2. Using the highly experimental "vimage" as the cornerstone of the
>>     over all design. Vimage has many long standing PRs, does not work
>>     with any of the firewalls, has NO maintainer, requires a custom
>>     kernel to enable.
>>     This is a major show stopper. Can not risk a production jail
>>     environment on highly experimental software. Even if vimage gets a
>>     maintainer, all the firewalls need to be updated to play nice in an
>>     vimage environment, and there are existing PRs to that effect which
>>     the firewall maintainers are reluctant to address because of
>>     vimage's status as highly experimental. What your trying to do may
>>     never bare fruit due to things totally out of your control.
>>
>> What do you mean by "not work with any of the firewalls"?
>>
>
> When enabled with a kernel that has vimage they hang the system on boot,
> page fault, or in the case of ipfw, Nat page faults. Just check the
> outstanding pr list for the gory details.


And that is a gross overstatement. I run vimage-kernel and ipfw on a number
of machines. Not one kernel panic.

>
>
>> And for people who require separate networking, vimage is the answer. I
>> say it is a shame vimage is not in generic yet.
>>
>>
> I agree with you. But its out of our control. If I remember correctly, the
> vimage author completed his dissertation which was based on his writing
> vimage, graduated college and moved on with his life.
>
> That would be very sad. Maybe the foundation could sponsor him and/or
someone else to have another go at it. It's not like pf and ipfilter are
the most well-maintained things either.

I however long for the day when FreeBSD catches up with illumos in terms of
light-weight virtualization with separate networking (seeing as jails were
the model for zones). But maybe netmap+vale-switches with vimage could be
made to play better together. But I guess we each want different things.

Best regards
Andreas

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The following reply was made to PR kern/176112; it has been noted by GNATS.

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Subject: Re: kern/176112: [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
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 ----- Forwarded message from Dustin Wenz <dustinwenz@ebureau.com> -----
 
 Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 10:35:18 -0500
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 I would like to update PR:
 
 	kern/176112: [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
 
 This problem is still present in FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #0 r265159, when
 built for amd64. Is there any way this PR could be bumped up in priority?
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S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o bin/189139   jail       [patch] fix bug in jail(8) variable substitution
o kern/188753  jail       [jail] mount devfs ruleset ignored
o kern/188495  jail       [jail] /etc/rc.d/jail, ezjail and Linux jails don't wo
o kern/188018  jail       [jail] [vimage] Running pfctl -sr -v in Jail with VIMA
o kern/186360  jail       [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn't mount dev
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o bin/181794   jail       jexec(8) runs commands in Jails without taking into ac
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

25 problems total.


From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG  Wed May 21 14:53:27 2014
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Hi

	I've been hitting this snag on installworld on a fresh jail:

...
install: /usr/jails/turkb2/usr/libexec/bsdconfig/050.diskmgmt/diskmgmt:
No such file or directory
*** [_SCRIPTSINS_diskmgmt] Error code 71
install -o root -g wheel  -m 444 INDEX USAGE
/usr/jails/turkb2/usr/libexec/bsdconfig/050.diskmgmt
1 error
...

	Happens on my fast box everytime.

	Seems that it's caused by this race on bsdconfig directories installed,
w/c got fixed by this

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2013-August/051090.html
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist?revision=256129&view=co&pathrev=256129

	Anyways, grabbing the mtree above and doing

# mtree -eU -f BSD.usr.dist.92X -p /path/to/jail's/usr/
	
	and then installing the world on the fresh jail fixes it.

	Sending this on the list, to propagate my notes ;-)


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Note: to view an individual PR, use:
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The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o bin/189139   jail       [patch] fix bug in jail(8) variable substitution
o kern/188753  jail       [jail] mount devfs ruleset ignored
o kern/188495  jail       [jail] /etc/rc.d/jail, ezjail and Linux jails don't wo
o kern/188018  jail       [jail] [vimage] Running pfctl -sr -v in Jail with VIMA
o kern/186360  jail       [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn't mount dev
o kern/184719  jail       [jail] Starting jails: cannot start jail "domain_com":
o bin/181794   jail       jexec(8) runs commands in Jails without taking into ac
o conf/181650  jail       [jail] [patch] /etc/rc.d/jail fails if  a kernel built
o kern/180916  jail       [jail] [regression] jail startup is broken for 8.4 wit
o kern/180067  jail       [jail] [patch] fix multicast support within jails
o bin/178302   jail       jail(8): unknown parameter: ip6.addr when kernel compi
o kern/176112  jail       [jail] [panic] kernel panic when starting jails
o kern/174902  jail       [jail] jail should provide validator for jail names
o bin/173469   jail       [jail] regression: security.jail.sysvipc_allowed=1 no 
o kern/169751  jail       [jail] reading routing information does not work in ja
o bin/167911   jail       new jail(8) problem with removal, ifconfg -alias and k
o kern/159918  jail       [jail] inter-jail communication failure
o kern/156111  jail       [jail] procstat -b not supported in jail
o misc/155765  jail       [patch] `buildworld' does not honors WITHOUT_JAIL
o conf/154246  jail       [jail] [patch] Bad symlink created if devfs mount poin
s conf/142972  jail       [jail] [patch] Support JAILv2 and vnet in rc.d/jail
o conf/141317  jail       [patch] uncorrect jail stop in /etc/rc.d/jail
o kern/133265  jail       [jail] is there a solution how to run nfs client in ja
o kern/119842  jail       [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail
o bin/99566    jail       [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid

25 problems total.


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Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:14:02 -0400

 Just an additional note--the roadrunner page listed will be defunct after
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Subject: Re: kern/186360: [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn&#39;t mount devfs
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 18:56:31 -0400

 jail(8) became available in 9.1-RELEASE and was very buggy.
 Some things got fixed in 9.2 but not the mount devfs function.
 Even in 10.0-RELEASE the mount devfs function was still broken.
 
 It finally got fixed in 10.0-RELEASE-p1
 
 The legacy rc.conf rc.d jail method is deprecated in 10.0 and scheduled for
 removal in 11.0.
 
 Suggest you test your jails using jail(8) method on 10.0-RELEASE-p1 to
 verify your pr problem is still in effect.
 
 The sysutils/qjail utility uses the same jail config as your now building by
 hand.
 
 

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Subject: Re: kern/186360: [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn&#39;t
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:05:18 -0400

 On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 06:56:31PM -0400, joeb1 wrote:
 > jail(8) became available in 9.1-RELEASE and was very buggy.
 > Some things got fixed in 9.2 but not the mount devfs function.
 > Even in 10.0-RELEASE the mount devfs function was still broken.
 > 
 > It finally got fixed in 10.0-RELEASE-p1
 
 I am still having the issue with 10.0-RELEASE-p1
 
 
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On Wed, 28 May 2014 01:10:01 GMT
Scott Robbins wrote:

> The following reply was made to PR kern/186360; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: Scott Robbins <scottro@nyc.rr.com>
> To: joeb1 <joeb1@a1poweruser.com>
> Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: kern/186360: [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn&#39;t
>  mount devfs
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:05:18 -0400
> 
>  On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 06:56:31PM -0400, joeb1 wrote:
>  > jail(8) became available in 9.1-RELEASE and was very buggy.
>  > Some things got fixed in 9.2 but not the mount devfs function.
>  > Even in 10.0-RELEASE the mount devfs function was still broken.
>  > 
>  > It finally got fixed in 10.0-RELEASE-p1
>  
>  I am still having the issue with 10.0-RELEASE-p1

It has been fixed in 10.0-RELEASE-p2.

Make sure that you have

devfs_load_rulesets="YES"       # Enable to always load the default rulesets

instead of

devfs_load_rulesets="NO"       # Enable to always load the default rulesets

in /etc/defaults/rc.conf.

http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=265124
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/10.0/etc/defaults/rc.conf?r1=265124&r2=265123&pathrev=265124

-- 
Herbert

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On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 08:43:12AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2014 01:10:01 GMT
> Scott Robbins wrote:
> 
> > The following reply was made to PR kern/186360; it has been noted by GNATS.
> > 
> > From: Scott Robbins <scottro@nyc.rr.com>
> > To: joeb1 <joeb1@a1poweruser.com>
> > Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
> > Subject: Re: kern/186360: [jail] jail using nullfs and unionfs doesn&#39;t
> >  mount devfs
> > Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 21:05:18 -0400
> > 
> >  On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 06:56:31PM -0400, joeb1 wrote:
> >  > jail(8) became available in 9.1-RELEASE and was very buggy.
> >  > Some things got fixed in 9.2 but not the mount devfs function.
> >  > Even in 10.0-RELEASE the mount devfs function was still broken.
> >  > 
> >  > It finally got fixed in 10.0-RELEASE-p1
> >  
> >  I am still having the issue with 10.0-RELEASE-p1
> 
> It has been fixed in 10.0-RELEASE-p2.
> 
> Make sure that you have
> 
> devfs_load_rulesets="YES"       # Enable to always load the default rulesets
> 
> instead of

I tried this on 10.0-RELEASE-p3.  The problem wasn't that a ruleset wasn't applied, the
problem is that there is nothing mounted on <myjail>/dev.  It's still not
working for me, however, I've only tried it on one machine, and probably
won't have a chance to try on others for a few days.

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Hi,

I am trying to build a jail on FreeBSD 10.0 amd64 and it cannot access
the internet. Here are the steps I followed:

1. install ezjail from ports and enable it in rc.conf

2. My server has 3 public IPv4 addresses. Add one of them as an alias
(for the jail):
# ifconfig em0 alias <ip> netmask 255.255.255.255
# echo 'ifconfig_em0_alias0="inet <ip> netmask 255.255.255.255"' >>
/etc/rc.conf

3. enable ip forwarding
# sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1

4. create the jail with the dedicated IP added as an alias

5. provide a name resolver in jail's /etc/resolv.conf

6. start the jail
# service ezjail start

7. console into the jail
# ezjail-admin console <jailname>

8. cannot access the internet. cannot use ports, cannot do anything.

The public IP address assigned to the jail is PINGable from the
outside (another server) and also PINGable from the host.

What is wrong here? I have searched the forums and everywhere on the
internet and saw no mistake or no steps missed.

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On 01.06.14 02:14, s7r wrote:

> 8. cannot access the internet. cannot use ports, cannot do
> anything.
> 
> The public IP address assigned to the jail is PINGable from the 
> outside (another server) and also PINGable from the host.

If you run ifconfig em0 inside the jail, can you see the ip address
configured?

What exactly is the error message if your try something like
connecting to google.com:

  telnet 173.194.32.243 80

I am currently working on a troubleshooting subcommand to ezjail that
tries to identify all possible causes of head aches. So failing
connections from jails to the outside world should be diagnosed and I
hope I can include your (solved) case to the tests ;)

  erdgeist
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On 01.06.14 02:14, s7r wrote:

> 2. My server has 3 public IPv4 addresses. Add one of them as an
> alias (for the jail): # ifconfig em0 alias <ip> netmask
> 255.255.255.255

Also did you check that the jail's addresses are inside the net
configured netblock and you do not have routing table entries that
might divert or block traffic, i.e. is there a firewalls, if so what
are its rules?

  erdgeist
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From: Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>
Subject: Re: cannot access internet from jail, help needed please
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Also note  . . . does the jail have a default route installed for the public=
 network  . . .=20

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> On May 31, 2014, at 20:33, Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org> wrote:
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>> On 01.06.14 02:14, s7r wrote:
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>> 2. My server has 3 public IPv4 addresses. Add one of them as an
>> alias (for the jail): # ifconfig em0 alias <ip> netmask
>> 255.255.255.255
>=20
> Also did you check that the jail's addresses are inside the net
> configured netblock and you do not have routing table entries that
> might divert or block traffic, i.e. is there a firewalls, if so what
> are its rules?
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 03:14:17 +0300
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> 2. My server has 3 public IPv4 addresses. Add one of them as an alias
> (for the jail):
> # ifconfig em0 alias <ip> netmask 255.255.255.255
> # echo 'ifconfig_em0_alias0="inet <ip> netmask 255.255.255.255"' >>
> /etc/rc.conf
> 
I always prepare the following files before I create a jail:

group
inetd.conf
master.passwd
rc.conf
resolv.conf

Do you have all of them inside the jail with the proper details of the
jail?

Erich

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Hi,

Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit

I have installed ezjail from ports and properly configured a jail with
its own static and dedicated IP address. Everything works good, it's
just that I have an application which requires to talk to another one
via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the jail does not have a
lo0 interface or localhost 127.0.0.1 IP address.

This is bad because the application has no choice but to bind to the
public IP address assigned to the jail, and it's not safe.

How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a jail?

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On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>=20
> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly configured a jail with
> its own static and dedicated IP address. Everything works good, it's
> just that I have an application which requires to talk to another one
> via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the jail does not have a
> lo0 interface or localhost 127.0.0.1 IP address.
>=20
> This is bad because the application has no choice but to bind to the
> public IP address assigned to the jail, and it's not safe.
>=20
> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a jail?
>=20
> Thanks in advance.
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>=20

Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like 127.0.0.2 to the
lo0 interface and use that.

Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the jail.

Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP address to a jail by
comma separating them

You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you with the syntax:=


em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2
etc


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On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>> 
>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly configured a jail
>> with its own static and dedicated IP address. Everything works
>> good, it's just that I have an application which requires to talk
>> to another one via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the
>> jail does not have a lo0 interface or localhost 127.0.0.1 IP
>> address.
>> 
>> This is bad because the application has no choice but to bind to
>> the public IP address assigned to the jail, and it's not safe.
>> 
>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a jail?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list 
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> 
> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like 127.0.0.2
> to the lo0 interface and use that.
> 
> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the jail.
> 
> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP address to a
> jail by comma separating them
> 
> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you with the
> syntax:
> 
> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
> 
> 

Thank you Allan for your fast reply.

I have the jail already created via:
# ezjail-admin create <jailname> <em0|public IP>

How do I modify the already existing jail to have 127.0.0.2, for
example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1 in the jail?

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On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>>>
>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly configured a jail
>>> with its own static and dedicated IP address. Everything works
>>> good, it's just that I have an application which requires to talk
>>> to another one via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the
>>> jail does not have a lo0 interface or localhost 127.0.0.1 IP
>>> address.
>>>
>>> This is bad because the application has no choice but to bind to
>>> the public IP address assigned to the jail, and it's not safe.
>>>
>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a jail?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.=20
>>> _______________________________________________=20
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>=20
>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like 127.0.0.2
>> to the lo0 interface and use that.
>=20
>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the jail.
>=20
>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP address to a
>> jail by comma separating them
>=20
>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you with the
>> syntax:
>=20
>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
>=20
> I have the jail already created via:
> # ezjail-admin create <jailname> <em0|public IP>
>=20
> How do I modify the already existing jail to have 127.0.0.2, for
> example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1 in the jail?
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Stop the jail, and then edit /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name

and change the line that defines the IPs

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On 6/11/2014 3:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
> On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>>>> 
>>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly configured a
>>>> jail with its own static and dedicated IP address. Everything
>>>> works good, it's just that I have an application which
>>>> requires to talk to another one via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and
>>>> I have noticed the jail does not have a lo0 interface or
>>>> localhost 127.0.0.1 IP address.
>>>> 
>>>> This is bad because the application has no choice but to bind
>>>> to the public IP address assigned to the jail, and it's not
>>>> safe.
>>>> 
>>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a jail?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list 
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To 
>>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to 
>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>> 
>> 
>>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like
>>> 127.0.0.2 to the lo0 interface and use that.
>> 
>>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the jail.
>> 
>>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP address to
>>> a jail by comma separating them
>> 
>>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you with
>>> the syntax:
>> 
>>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
>> 
>> I have the jail already created via: # ezjail-admin create
>> <jailname> <em0|public IP>
>> 
>> How do I modify the already existing jail to have 127.0.0.2, for 
>> example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1 in the jail?
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list 
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To
>> unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>> 
> 
> Stop the jail, and then edit /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name
> 
> and change the line that defines the IPs
> 

Thank you it works, with 127.0.0.2

If I try to add 127.0.0.1 will this create any conflicts with the host
or will it work? Because i have something important listening on
hosts's 127.0.0.1 and don't want to mess up. I would need the same
configuration within the jail also, so that's why I need the .1
localhost IP.

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> On Jun 10, 2014, at 21:19, "s7r@sky-ip.org" <s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:
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>> On 6/11/2014 3:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>> On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>>>> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
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>>>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly configured a
>>>>> jail with its own static and dedicated IP address. Everything
>>>>> works good, it's just that I have an application which
>>>>> requires to talk to another one via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and
>>>>> I have noticed the jail does not have a lo0 interface or
>>>>> localhost 127.0.0.1 IP address.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This is bad because the application has no choice but to bind
>>>>> to the public IP address assigned to the jail, and it's not
>>>>> safe.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a jail?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks in advance.=20
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>>>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like
>>>> 127.0.0.2 to the lo0 interface and use that.
>>>=20
>>>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the jail.
>>>=20
>>>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP address to
>>>> a jail by comma separating them
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>>>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you with
>>>> the syntax:
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>>>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
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>>>=20
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>>> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
>>>=20
>>> I have the jail already created via: # ezjail-admin create
>>> <jailname> <em0|public IP>
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>>> How do I modify the already existing jail to have 127.0.0.2, for=20
>>> example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1 in the jail?
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>> Stop the jail, and then edit /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name
>>=20
>> and change the line that defines the IPs
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> Thank you it works, with 127.0.0.2
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> If I try to add 127.0.0.1 will this create any conflicts with the host
> or will it work? Because i have something important listening on
> hosts's 127.0.0.1 and don't want to mess up. I would need the same
> configuration within the jail also, so that's why I need the .1
> localhost IP.
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On 2014-06-10 21:19, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
> On 6/11/2014 3:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>> On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>>> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>>>>>
>>>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly configured a
>>>>> jail with its own static and dedicated IP address. Everything
>>>>> works good, it's just that I have an application which
>>>>> requires to talk to another one via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and
>>>>> I have noticed the jail does not have a lo0 interface or
>>>>> localhost 127.0.0.1 IP address.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is bad because the application has no choice but to bind
>>>>> to the public IP address assigned to the jail, and it's not
>>>>> safe.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a jail?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.=20
>>>>> _______________________________________________=20
>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list=20
>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To=20
>>>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to=20
>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like
>>>> 127.0.0.2 to the lo0 interface and use that.
>>>
>>>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the jail.
>>>
>>>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP address to
>>>> a jail by comma separating them
>>>
>>>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you with
>>>> the syntax:
>>>
>>>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
>>>
>>> I have the jail already created via: # ezjail-admin create
>>> <jailname> <em0|public IP>
>>>
>>> How do I modify the already existing jail to have 127.0.0.2, for=20
>>> example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1 in the jail?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________=20
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>=20
>> Stop the jail, and then edit /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name
>=20
>> and change the line that defines the IPs
>=20
>=20
> Thank you it works, with 127.0.0.2
>=20
> If I try to add 127.0.0.1 will this create any conflicts with the host
> or will it work? Because i have something important listening on
> hosts's 127.0.0.1 and don't want to mess up. I would need the same
> configuration within the jail also, so that's why I need the .1
> localhost IP.
>=20
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>=20

When the host and the jail share an IP, the jail wins. So, if you run
sshd on both, then ssh'ing to the shared IP will goto the jail. However,
if you don't run sshd in the jail and you do on the host, the connection
will 'fall through' to the host.

So, as long as the jail isn't going to use the same port # as your
important app, you can share.

--=20
Allan Jude


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On 6/11/2014 4:46 AM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> You could just go with building the host kernel with VIMAGE  . . .
> Then each jail has its own virtual network stack.
> 
> image.png
> 
> -- Jason Hellenthal Voice: 95.30.17.6/616 JJH48-ARIN
> 
> On Jun 10, 2014, at 21:19, "s7r@sky-ip.org
> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>" <s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>
> wrote:
> 
> On 6/11/2014 3:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org
>>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly
>>>>>>> configured a jail with its own static and dedicated IP
>>>>>>> address. Everything works good, it's just that I have
>>>>>>> an application which requires to talk to another one
>>>>>>> via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the jail
>>>>>>> does not have a lo0 interface or localhost 127.0.0.1 IP
>>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is bad because the application has no choice but
>>>>>>> to bind to the public IP address assigned to the jail,
>>>>>>> and it's not safe.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a
>>>>>>> jail?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org> mailing list 
>>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to 
>>>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org 
>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like 
>>>>>> 127.0.0.2 to the lo0 interface and use that.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the
>>>>>> jail.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP
>>>>>> address to a jail by comma separating them
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you
>>>>>> with the syntax:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have the jail already created via: # ezjail-admin create 
>>>>> <jailname> <em0|public IP>
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do I modify the already existing jail to have
>>>>> 127.0.0.2, for example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1 in
>>>>> the jail?
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>
>>>>> mailing list 
>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To 
>>>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to 
>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org 
>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>"
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Stop the jail, and then edit /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name
>>>> 
>>>> and change the line that defines the IPs
>>>> 
> 
> Thank you it works, with 127.0.0.2
> 
> If I try to add 127.0.0.1 will this create any conflicts with the
> host or will it work? Because i have something important listening
> on hosts's 127.0.0.1 and don't want to mess up. I would need the
> same configuration within the jail also, so that's why I need the
> .1 localhost IP.
> 
>> _______________________________________________ 
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Hey Jason

Thanks for your suggestion. can you please ellaborate a little bit and
tell me how can i do this step by step? I have an already installed
system with ezjail and already created one jail - how can I add VIMAGE
to have virtual network stack in each jail without having to reinstall
the host or the jails? Thank you, looking forward for your reply.

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Simple.

echo 'options VIMAGE' >>/sys/`uname -p`/GENERIC
cd /usr/src && make buildkernel && make installkernel

Make the necessary adjustments to ensure your system is stable as you want
it to be during testing and then lock the settings for the jails into the
perspective configuration files and the host systems /etc/rc.conf for the
interfaces you will use.

Just an example of my base jail that I use for setting up other jails on
the fly...
exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown";
exec.poststop = "umount /export/cnt/$name/dev";
exec.clean;

mount.devfs;

path = "/export/cnt/$name";

allow.raw_sockets;
allow.socket_af;
vnet = new;

base {
        host.hostname = base;
        vnet.interface = vnet0;
        securelevel = 3;
        exec.start = "ifconfig vnet0 inet 172.X.X.22/22 broadcast
172.X.X.255";
        exec.start += "route add default 172.X.X.1";
        exec.start += "/bin/sh /etc/rc";
}

And in my systems rc.conf...
ifconfig_interface0_name="vnet0"

I actually give my base template jail a full actual interface to work with
so I can segment it off on the network at the switch level and drop it into
another management vlan. But the configuration is simple and similar to
other interfaces virtual or not like if_epair(4).

The rest of the jail configuration as in rc.conf and such within the jail
is the same as if it was not a VIMAGE so you should already be aware of
those details so I won't rattle on with those. But if you have any specific
questions about this as you move through setting up VIMAGE jails feel free
to give me a hollar directly or back to this list and Ill be happy to give
you a hand.




On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:53 PM, s7r@sky-ip.org <s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:

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> On 6/11/2014 4:46 AM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> > You could just go with building the host kernel with VIMAGE  . . .
> > Then each jail has its own virtual network stack.
> >
> > image.png
> >
> > -- Jason Hellenthal Voice: 95.30.17.6/616 JJH48-ARIN
> >
> > On Jun 10, 2014, at 21:19, "s7r@sky-ip.org
> > <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>" <s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 6/11/2014 3:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
> >>>> On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org
> >>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly
> >>>>>>> configured a jail with its own static and dedicated IP
> >>>>>>> address. Everything works good, it's just that I have
> >>>>>>> an application which requires to talk to another one
> >>>>>>> via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the jail
> >>>>>>> does not have a lo0 interface or localhost 127.0.0.1 IP
> >>>>>>> address.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is bad because the application has no choice but
> >>>>>>> to bind to the public IP address assigned to the jail,
> >>>>>>> and it's not safe.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a
> >>>>>>> jail?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
> >>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org> mailing list
> >>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> >>>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> >>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias like
> >>>>>> 127.0.0.2 to the lo0 interface and use that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the
> >>>>>> jail.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP
> >>>>>> address to a jail by comma separating them
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for you
> >>>>>> with the syntax:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have the jail already created via: # ezjail-admin create
> >>>>> <jailname> <em0|public IP>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How do I modify the already existing jail to have
> >>>>> 127.0.0.2, for example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1 in
> >>>>> the jail?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>
> >>>>> mailing list
> >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To
> >>>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to
> >>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> >>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>"
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop the jail, and then edit /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name
> >>>>
> >>>> and change the line that defines the IPs
> >>>>
> >
> > Thank you it works, with 127.0.0.2
> >
> > If I try to add 127.0.0.1 will this create any conflicts with the
> > host or will it work? Because i have something important listening
> > on hosts's 127.0.0.1 and don't want to mess up. I would need the
> > same configuration within the jail also, so that's why I need the
> > .1 localhost IP.
> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>
> >> mailing list
> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To
> >> unsubscribe, send any mail to
> >> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> >> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>"
>
>
> Hey Jason
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. can you please ellaborate a little bit and
> tell me how can i do this step by step? I have an already installed
> system with ezjail and already created one jail - how can I add VIMAGE
> to have virtual network stack in each jail without having to reinstall
> the host or the jails? Thank you, looking forward for your reply.
>
> - --
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On 6/11/2014 11:56 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> Simple.
> 
> echo 'options VIMAGE' >>/sys/`uname -p`/GENERIC cd /usr/src && make
> buildkernel && make installkernel
> 
This is perfectly, clear - hope it does not affect the current
functionality and installed ports on the running machine?

> Make the necessary adjustments to ensure your system is stable as
> you want it to be during testing and then lock the settings for the
> jails into the perspective configuration files and the host
> systems /etc/rc.conf for the interfaces you will use.
> 
> Just an example of my base jail that I use for setting up other
> jails on the fly... exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; 
> exec.poststop = "umount /export/cnt/$name/dev"; exec.clean;
> 
> mount.devfs;
> 
> path = "/export/cnt/$name";
> 
> allow.raw_sockets; allow.socket_af; vnet = new;
> 
> base { host.hostname = base; vnet.interface = vnet0; securelevel =
> 3; exec.start = "ifconfig vnet0 inet 172.X.X.22/22 broadcast 
> 172.X.X.255"; exec.start += "route add default 172.X.X.1"; 
> exec.start += "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; }
> 
Q1: All This is tot be pasted into jails's /etc/rc.conf file?

Q2: 172.X.X.22/22 -> I want to assign a public IP address to the jail,
and a local loopback address.

Q3: route add default - this is the default router? this should be the
host's public IP address or the IP address of the gateway assigned by
my ISP?

> And in my systems rc.conf... ifconfig_interface0_name="vnet0"
> 
No IP address here or alias for vnet0? In host's /etc/rc.conf? Just
interface0_name="vnet0"? Shouldn't interface0 be em0, the default
interface of the host? Shouldn't that come first?

> I actually give my base template jail a full actual interface to
> work with so I can segment it off on the network at the switch
> level and drop it into another management vlan. But the
> configuration is simple and similar to other interfaces virtual or
> not like if_epair(4).
> 
> The rest of the jail configuration as in rc.conf and such within
> the jail is the same as if it was not a VIMAGE so you should
> already be aware of those details so I won't rattle on with those.
> But if you have any specific questions about this as you move
> through setting up VIMAGE jails feel free to give me a hollar
> directly or back to this list and Ill be happy to give you a hand.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:53 PM, s7r@sky-ip.org
> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>
> wrote:
> 
> On 6/11/2014 4:46 AM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>> You could just go with building the host kernel with VIMAGE  . .
>> . Then each jail has its own virtual network stack.
> 
>> image.png
> 
>> -- Jason Hellenthal Voice: 95.30.17.6/616
>> <http://95.30.17.6/616>
> JJH48-ARIN
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 21:19, "s7r@sky-ip.org
>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org
>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>" <s7r@sky-ip.org
> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org
> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>>
>> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/11/2014 3:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org
>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>
> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly 
>>>>>>>> configured a jail with its own static and dedicated
>>>>>>>> IP address. Everything works good, it's just that I
>>>>>>>> have an application which requires to talk to another
>>>>>>>> one via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the
>>>>>>>> jail does not have a lo0 interface or localhost
>>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1 IP address.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is bad because the application has no choice
>>>>>>>> but to bind to the public IP address assigned to the
>>>>>>>> jail, and it's not safe.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a 
>>>>>>>> jail?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org> 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>> mailing list
>>>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>>"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias
>>>>>>> like 127.0.0.2 to the lo0 interface and use that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the 
>>>>>>> jail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP 
>>>>>>> address to a jail by comma separating them
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for
>>>>>>> you with the syntax:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have the jail already created via: # ezjail-admin
>>>>>> create <jailname> <em0|public IP>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do I modify the already existing jail to have 
>>>>>> 127.0.0.2, for example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1
>>>>>> in the jail?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>
> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>>
>>>>>> mailing list 
>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to 
>>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>>"
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stop the jail, and then edit
>>>>> /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name
>>>>> 
>>>>> and change the line that defines the IPs
>>>>> 
> 
>> Thank you it works, with 127.0.0.2
> 
>> If I try to add 127.0.0.1 will this create any conflicts with
>> the host or will it work? Because i have something important
>> listening on hosts's 127.0.0.1 and don't want to mess up. I would
>> need the same configuration within the jail also, so that's why I
>> need the .1 localhost IP.
> 
>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>
> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>>
>>> mailing list 
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To 
>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to 
>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>
>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>>"
> 
> 
> Hey Jason
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion. can you please ellaborate a little bit
> and tell me how can i do this step by step? I have an already
> installed system with ezjail and already created one jail - how can
> I add VIMAGE to have virtual network stack in each jail without
> having to reinstall the host or the jails? Thank you, looking
> forward for your reply.
> 
> 
> 
Thank you.
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From: Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net>
Subject: Re: Assign Lookback address 127.0.0.1 to jail
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:31:25 -0400
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 Jason Hellenthal
 Voice: 95.30.17.6/616
 JJH48-ARIN

> On Jun 11, 2014, at 17:11, "s7r@sky-ip.org" <s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:
>=20
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>=20
>> On 6/11/2014 11:56 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>> Simple.
>>=20
>> echo 'options VIMAGE' >>/sys/`uname -p`/GENERIC cd /usr/src && make
>> buildkernel && make installkernel
> This is perfectly, clear - hope it does not affect the current
> functionality and installed ports on the running machine?
>=20
>> Make the necessary adjustments to ensure your system is stable as
>> you want it to be during testing and then lock the settings for the
>> jails into the perspective configuration files and the host
>> systems /etc/rc.conf for the interfaces you will use.
>>=20
>> Just an example of my base jail that I use for setting up other
>> jails on the fly... exec.stop =3D "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown";=20
>> exec.poststop =3D "umount /export/cnt/$name/dev"; exec.clean;
>>=20
>> mount.devfs;
>>=20
>> path =3D "/export/cnt/$name";
>>=20
>> allow.raw_sockets; allow.socket_af; vnet =3D new;
>>=20
>> base { host.hostname =3D base; vnet.interface =3D vnet0; securelevel =3D
>> 3; exec.start =3D "ifconfig vnet0 inet 172.X.X.22/22 broadcast=20
>> 172.X.X.255"; exec.start +=3D "route add default 172.X.X.1";=20
>> exec.start +=3D "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; }
> Q1: All This is tot be pasted into jails's /etc/rc.conf file?

That portion is for the jail.conf(5) syntax. /etc/jail.conf

Possibly easyjail ? In /usr/local as well but I'm unfamiliar with easyjail b=
ut the above settings in place should effect globally.


>=20
> Q2: 172.X.X.22/22 -> I want to assign a public IP address to the jail,
> and a local loopback address.

You wont have to worry about the loop back as that will be automatically con=
figured since it will now have its own virtual network stack. And it's very o=
wn lo0 interface.

The public IP space you can just change that 172 class B to whatever you nee=
d in the jail.conf to set that for every time the jail starts.

>=20
> Q3: route add default - this is the default router? this should be the
> host's public IP address or the IP address of the gateway assigned by
> my ISP?

If I'm understanding that correctly yes. Think of this now as its own entity=
 with its own network stack. Your just configuring it just like you would if=
 you were setting up an actual additional machine on your network.

>=20
>> And in my systems rc.conf... ifconfig_interface0_name=3D"vnet0"
> No IP address here or alias for vnet0? In host's /etc/rc.conf? Just
> interface0_name=3D"vnet0"? Shouldn't interface0 be em0, the default
> interface of the host? Shouldn't that come first?
>=20
>> I actually give my base template jail a full actual interface to
>> work with so I can segment it off on the network at the switch
>> level and drop it into another management vlan. But the
>> configuration is simple and similar to other interfaces virtual or
>> not like if_epair(4).
>>=20
>> The rest of the jail configuration as in rc.conf and such within
>> the jail is the same as if it was not a VIMAGE so you should
>> already be aware of those details so I won't rattle on with those.
>> But if you have any specific questions about this as you move
>> through setting up VIMAGE jails feel free to give me a hollar
>> directly or back to this list and Ill be happy to give you a hand.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:53 PM, s7r@sky-ip.org
>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 6/11/2014 4:46 AM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>>> You could just go with building the host kernel with VIMAGE  . .
>>> . Then each jail has its own virtual network stack.
>>=20
>>> image.png
>>=20
>>> -- Jason Hellenthal Voice: 95.30.17.6/616
>>> <http://95.30.17.6/616>
>> JJH48-ARIN
>>=20
>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 21:19, "s7r@sky-ip.org
>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org
>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>" <s7r@sky-ip.org
>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org
>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>>
>>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 6/11/2014 3:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:23, s7r@sky-ip.org
>>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>
>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/11/2014 3:20 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2014-06-10 20:07, s7r@sky-ip.org
>>>>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org
>>>>>>>> <mailto:s7r@sky-ip.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0 64 Bit
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> I have installed ezjail from ports and properly=20
>>>>>>>>> configured a jail with its own static and dedicated
>>>>>>>>> IP address. Everything works good, it's just that I
>>>>>>>>> have an application which requires to talk to another
>>>>>>>>> one via RPC on IP 127.0.0.1, and I have noticed the
>>>>>>>>> jail does not have a lo0 interface or localhost
>>>>>>>>> 127.0.0.1 IP address.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> This is bad because the application has no choice
>>>>>>>>> but to bind to the public IP address assigned to the
>>>>>>>>> jail, and it's not safe.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> How can I add a lo0 interface with IP 127.0.0.1 to a=20
>>>>>>>>> jail?
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.=20
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________=20
>>>>>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>=20
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>> mailing list
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> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>>>>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>>"
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Does it have to be 127.0.0.1? You can add an alias
>>>>>>>> like 127.0.0.2 to the lo0 interface and use that.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Inside the jail, 127.0.0.1 is mapped to the IP of the=20
>>>>>>>> jail.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Using ezjail, you can also allocate more than 1 IP=20
>>>>>>>> address to a jail by comma separating them
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> You can also make it automatically alias the IPs for
>>>>>>>> you with the syntax:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> em0|192.168.0.10,lo0|127.0.0.2 etc
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Thank you Allan for your fast reply.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I have the jail already created via: # ezjail-admin
>>>>>>> create <jailname> <em0|public IP>
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> How do I modify the already existing jail to have=20
>>>>>>> 127.0.0.2, for example, or can't  I just have 127.0.0.1
>>>>>>> in the jail?
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________=20
>>>>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>>
>>>>>>> mailing list=20
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>>>>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>
>>>>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>>"
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Stop the jail, and then edit
>>>>>> /usr/local/etc/ezjail/jail_name
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> and change the line that defines the IPs
>>=20
>>> Thank you it works, with 127.0.0.2
>>=20
>>> If I try to add 127.0.0.1 will this create any conflicts with
>>> the host or will it work? Because i have something important
>>> listening on hosts's 127.0.0.1 and don't want to mess up. I would
>>> need the same configuration within the jail also, so that's why I
>>> need the .1 localhost IP.
>>=20
>>>> _______________________________________________=20
>>>> freebsd-jail@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org>>
>>>> mailing list=20
>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To=20
>>>> unsubscribe, send any mail to=20
>>>> "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>
>>>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org
>> <mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>>"
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hey Jason
>>=20
>> Thanks for your suggestion. can you please ellaborate a little bit
>> and tell me how can i do this step by step? I have an already
>> installed system with ezjail and already created one jail - how can
>> I add VIMAGE to have virtual network stack in each jail without
>> having to reinstall the host or the jails? Thank you, looking
>> forward for your reply.
> Thank you.
> - --=20
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https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190944

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           Assignee|freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org    |freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org
            Summary|su -m <username> not        |[jail] su -m <username> not
                   |working in jail             |working in jail
           Severity|Affects Only Me             |Affects Many People

--- Comment #2 from Mark Linimon <linimon@FreeBSD.org> ---
Over to maintainers.

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--- Comment #3 from joeb1@a1poweruser.com ---
I cannot duplicate this "su -m xxxx command" problem on my 10.0-RELEASE-p3
system. 
I would say this problem is more about the way you have created your jail and
user accounts than a problem with the su command.

Please provide details about how you created your jail and the user accounts in
that jail that you are trying to use the su command on.

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Peter Toth wrote:
> For anyone interested in managing jails with VNET, ZFS and resource
> limits I have created a jail manager script
> https://github.com/pannon/iocage . Basically rewritten most of
> "zjails" in pure sh with simplicity in mind.
> 
> 90% is done final commits will be happening in the next 2 weeks. Feel
> free to give it a test drive.
> 

Will this script work on i386 systems?

Will this script work on a generic system with no zfs disk area enabled?

Does vnet jail still have "lost memory bug" when stopping vnet jail?

Do any of the host firewalls (ie; ipfw, ipf, pf) work on host and in 
multiple vnet jail at same time? Does NAT function work in vnet jail?

Can non-vnet jails be created?



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You can find the answer to all of your questions in the man page=
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Cheers
P

On Wednesday, 18-06-2014 on 3:37 =
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Peter Toth wrote:
> For anyone interested i=
n managing jails with VNET, ZFS and resource
> limits I have created=
 a jail manager script
> https://github.com/pannon/iocage . Basicall=
y rewritten most of
> "zjails" in pure sh with simplicity in mind=
..
>=20
> 90% is done final commits will be happening in the next 2=
 weeks.
Feel
> free to give it a test drive.
>=20

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ill this script work on i386 systems?

Will this script work on =
a generic system with no zfs disk area
enabled?

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D=
o any of the host firewalls (ie; ipfw, ipf, pf) work on host and in =

multiple vnet jail at same time? Does NAT function work in vnet jai=
l?

Can non-vnet jails be created?



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Hello,

I have a jail with a public IP address assigned to it on 10.0/amd64,
however both inbound and outbound connections randomly fail.

I'm using ipfilter as a packet filter but the issue persists when I
reboot without ipfilter enabled. Usually inbound connections work a
couple of times (around 4) and the 5th-ish attempt at establishing a TCP
connection fails with a connection timeout. From that point on it's
hit-and-miss. Nothing else on the system is listening on the port.

The timeouting connection does not show up in the host system, neither
in tcpdump or -- if enabled -- ipmon, the ipfilter monitoring utility.

When trying to telnet out of the box, the connection hangs before
"Trying <address>...", except sometimes when it works. Even then, the
connection is established excruciatingly slow, while outside the jail,
connections are established instantaneously.

On the host system, specifying the jail's IP as telnet's source IP via
-s works, so I doubt it's my ISP's fault.

To make sure the configuration in the jail tree isn't what's causing the
issues I created another jail with "/" as root directory and the jail's
IP assigned and /bin/sh as command. Same issue. This leads me to believe
that the jail subsystem is responsible somehow.

Any ideas what I might be missing?


Best,

Moritz

-- 
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I'm trying to update my jail system.

"ezjail-admin update -u" gives me this problem:


Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Inspecting system... done.
Preparing to download files... done.

The following files will be added as part of updating to 9.2-RELEASE-p8:
/etc/pkg
/etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf
/usr/share/keys
/usr/share/keys/pkg
/usr/share/keys/pkg/revoked
/usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted
/usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301
/usr/src/etc/pkg
/usr/src/etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf
/usr/src/etc/pkg/Makefile
/usr/src/share/keys
/usr/src/share/keys/Makefile
/usr/src/share/keys/pkg
/usr/src/share/keys/pkg/Makefile
/usr/src/share/keys/pkg/trusted
/usr/src/share/keys/pkg/trusted/Makefile
/usr/src/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301

The following files will be updated as part of updating to 9.2-RELEASE-p8:
/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist
/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist
/var/db/mergemaster.mtree
Installing updates...install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/share: File exists
install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/share: File exists
install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/share: File exists
install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/share: File exists
install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src: File exists
install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src: File exists
install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src: File exists
install: mkdir /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src: File exists
install: /usr/jails/newjail//usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301: No such file or directory
install: /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src/etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf: No such file or directory
install: /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src/etc/pkg/Makefile: No such file or directory
install: /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src/share/keys/Makefile: No such file or directory
install: /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src/share/keys/pkg/Makefile: No such file or directory
install: /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src/share/keys/pkg/trusted/Makefile: No such file or directory
install: /usr/jails/newjail//usr/src/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301: No such file or directory
 done.


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After more research it seems that my ISP is at fault after all.

Best regards and thank you,

Moritz

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https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=191279

Mark Linimon <linimon@FreeBSD.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Assignee|freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org    |freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org
            Summary|jail allow.sysvipc -        |[jail] jail allow.sysvipc -
                   |doesn't work until jail is  |doesn't work until jail is
                   |started TWICE after reboot  |started TWICE after reboot

--- Comment #1 from Mark Linimon <linimon@FreeBSD.org> ---
Over to maintainers.

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            Summary|Jailnames cannot contain a  |[jail] Jailnames cannot
                   |dash                        |contain a dash

--- Comment #2 from Mark Linimon <linimon@FreeBSD.org> ---
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--- Comment #3 from Allan Jude <allanjude@FreeBSD.org> ---
Can you provide more detail, like your jail.conf etc

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--- Comment #2 from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au ---
Dreamcat, Testing on two stables built within last 24 hours

# uname -oprUK
FreeBSD 9.3-PRERELEASE i386 903500 903500
and
FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE amd64 1000710 1000710

Looks like this issue is no reproducible in later versions (there have been a
lot of changes in Stable since 9.2R):
# sysctl -a|grep sysvi
security.jail.param.allow.sysvipc: 0
security.jail.sysvipc_allowed: 1

My jail.conf contains
test1 { ip4.addr = "10.0.5.241"; devfs_ruleset = "4"; allow.sysvipc;
allow.chflags; }

which is the jail that I tested for sysvipc.

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--- Comment #4 from rs@bytecamp.net ---
The message occurs even without an existing /etc/jail.conf.
The system is 10.0-RELEASE-p2 #1 r265140.

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--- Comment #3 from dreamcat4@gmail.com ---
Thanks man! It's good news to hear. Hopefully the bug will go away once I'm
moved to 10.0.(In reply to dewayne from comment #2)
> Dreamcat, Testing on two stables built within last 24 hours
> # sysctl -a|grep sysvi
> security.jail.param.allow.sysvipc: 0
> security.jail.sysvipc_allowed: 1
> 
> My jail.conf contains
> test1 { ip4.addr = "10.0.5.241"; devfs_ruleset = "4"; allow.sysvipc;
> allow.chflags; }
> 
> which is the jail that I tested for sysvipc.

Thanks for testing this. You individual jail setting looks good. My global
sysvipc setting is different than yours however:

freenas ~/ root^> sysctl -a|grep Sylvia
security.jail.param.allow.sysvipc: 0
security.jail.sysvipc_allowed: 0

Reason: Don't want to enable it for all the other jails. It is only needed on 1
specific jail.

FYI: Another PR relevant to isolating ipc to single-jail:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48471

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Pushed up a new version to github (1.3.1)
http://pannon.github.io/io=
cage/ . Man page is finished and created
WIKI too (will be back-fill=
ing pages). The new version supports
non-VNET jails too (shared IP b=
ased jails). There is a differential
jail packaging function as well=
 as import/export.

Many thanks for the feedback from the few who=
 emailed me.

P

On Wednesday, 18-06-2014 on 3:37 Fbsd=
8 wrote:

Peter Toth wrote:
> For anyone interested in ma=
naging jails with VNET, ZFS and resource
> limits I have created a j=
ail manager script
> https://github.com/pannon/iocage . Basically re=
written most of
> "zjails" in pure sh with simplicity in mind.
> =

> 90% is done final commits will be happening in the next 2 wee=
ks.
Feel
> free to give it a test drive.
>=20

Will =
this script work on i386 systems?

Will this script work on a ge=
neric system with no zfs disk area
enabled?

Does vnet jai=
l still have "lost memory bug" when stopping vnet jail?

Do an=
y of the host firewalls (ie; ipfw, ipf, pf) work on host and in=20
mul=
tiple vnet jail at same time? Does NAT function work in vnet jai=
l?

Can non-vnet jails be created?



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--- Comment #2 from Alexey Markov <redrat@mail.ru> ---
This patch was tested almost for an year and works like a charm. Any chance to
see it committed to 8-STABLE?

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--- Comment #3 from Kurt Jaeger <pi@FreeBSD.org> ---
Can you apply this patch to 8/8.4-STABLE as well ?

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--- Comment #3 from Gavin Atkinson <gavin@FreeBSD.org> ---
It sounds like your system has not been patched, and is missing at least the
FreeBSD-SA-14:07.devfs security advisory patch.

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--- Comment #4 from zilly <freebsdbugs@zilly.org> ---
I have the identical issue using Freebsd 10.0, qjail 3.4, and the allow.sysvipc
flag. It does not matter whether security.jail.sysvipc_allowed is set to 0 or 1
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# uname -oprUK                            
FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p6 amd64 1000510 1000510

Relevant section of qjail log file on first jail start:
FATAL:  could not create shared memory segment: Function not implemented
DETAIL:  Failed system call was shmget(key=5432001, size=40, 03600).

Like dreamcat4, sysvipc works once the jail has been started a second time
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--- Comment #4 from joeb1@a1poweruser.com ---
security advisory -p1 changes 
/etc/defaults/rc.conf parameter
devfs_load_rulesets="NO"  to  devfs_load_rulesets="YES"

That fixed this problem for me.

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--- Comment #5 from joeb1@a1poweruser.com ---
When you say the allow.sysvipc parameter has no effect on a jails first start
after system boot. Just how are you determining this? 
Do you see the "allow.sysvipc" listed by the "jls -name -j jailname" command.

I installed 10.0 from disc1.iso to a empty hard drive and running qjail-3.4 and
after starting the jail "jls -name -j jailname" shows "allow.sysvipc" which
means its enabled, and no error messages in the jails console log. 

Seeing jls showing the "allow.sysvipc" instead of "allow.nosysvipc" is the only
indicator I have available to verify its being set correctly. This indicator
does not really prove the sysvipc function for the jail is functional. As far
as I know you need to run some application in the jail that requires sysvipc
access as the only true test. This application may have to be started one time
to set some application internal default setting before it knows sysvipc is
enabled on its second start. Look for a application configure file to set
sysvipc as the default instead of the tcp default setting. What application are
you running in the jail and how does that application get started?

Almost 99% sure your problem is caused by your jailed application and not qjail
or jail(8).

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--- Comment #6 from dreamcat4@gmail.com ---
(In reply to joeb1 from comment #5)
> When you say the allow.sysvipc parameter has no effect on a jails first
> start after system boot. Just how are you determining this? 

I was previously checking the log file of the program 'zabbix2-server'. Which
is unable to start, and logfile gives the reason:

zabbix_server [4414]: cannot create Semaphore: [78] Function not implemented
zabbix_server [4414]: unable to create mutex for log file

However now that someone else has reproduced it too, I will try more things!

> Do you see the "allow.sysvipc" listed by the "jls -name -j jailname" command.
> I installed 10.0 from disc1.iso to a empty hard drive and running qjail-3.4
> and after starting the jail "jls -name -j jailname" shows "allow.sysvipc"
> which means its enabled, and no error messages in the jails console log. 

This is on my host, after a fresh reboot:

freenas // root^> qjail list
STA JID  NIC IP              Jailname
--- ---- --- --------------- --------------------------------------------------
DR  1    re0 192.168.1.205   nas4free
DR  2    re0 192.168.1.81    nginx-webdav
DR  3    re0 192.168.1.206   openvpn
             lo0|127.0.0.1
DR  4    re0 192.168.1.38    ps3netsrv
DR  5    re0 192.168.1.207   tvheadend
             lo0|127.0.0.207
DR  6    re0 192.168.1.223   ums4
             lo0|127.0.0.223
DR  7    re0 192.168.1.41    virtualbox
             lo0|127.0.0.2
DR  8    re0 192.168.1.214   webcamd
             lo0|127.0.0.214
DR  9    re0 192.168.1.212   zabbix
             lo0|127.0.0.212

freenas // root^> jls -h -j zabbix allow.sysvipc
allow.sysvipc
0
freenas // root^> qjail restart zabbix
Jail successfully stopped  zabbix
Jail successfully started  zabbix
freenas // root^> jls -h -j zabbix allow.sysvipc
allow.sysvipc
1

Above we can see that jls will indeed report the problem if it occurs. Since I
can still reproduce the error, I am investigating more today. Please bear with
me...

> Seeing jls showing the "allow.sysvipc" instead of "allow.nosysvipc" is the
> only indicator I have available to verify its being set correctly. This

There is also the command 'ipcs', which can be run inside the jail. Here again
is my output after a another system reboot:

freenas // root^> qjail console zabbix
Last login: Sun Jul  6 08:05:03 on pts/0
FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p3 (FREENAS.amd64) #0 r262572+7b72365: Fri Mar 14 15:50:04
PDT 2014

Welcome to your FreeBSD jail.
zabbix ~/ root~# ipcs
Message Queues:
T           ID          KEY MODE        OWNER    GROUP   

Shared Memory:
T           ID          KEY MODE        OWNER    GROUP   

Semaphores:
T           ID          KEY MODE        OWNER    GROUP   

zabbix ~/ root~# exit
logout
freenas // root^> qjail restart zabbix
Jail successfully stopped  zabbix
Jail successfully started  zabbix
freenas // root^> qjail console zabbix
Last login: Sun Jul  6 08:53:45 on pts/0
FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p3 (FREENAS.amd64) #0 r262572+7b72365: Fri Mar 14 15:50:04
PDT 2014

Welcome to your FreeBSD jail.
zabbix ~/ root~# ipcs
Message Queues:
T           ID          KEY MODE        OWNER    GROUP   

Shared Memory:
T           ID          KEY MODE        OWNER    GROUP   
m        65536   1745323649 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
m        65537   2013759105 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
m        65538   1946650241 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
m        65539   1728546433 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
m        65540   1929873025 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
m        65541   1393002113 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
m        65542   1980204673 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
m        65543   1812431314 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  

Semaphores:
T           ID          KEY MODE        OWNER    GROUP   
s        65536   2047313537 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  
s        65537   2047312338 --rw------- zabbix   zabbix  

zabbix ~/ root~# 


> indicator does not really prove the sysvipc function for the jail is
> functional. As far as I know you need to run some application in the jail
> that requires sysvipc access as the only true test. This application may
> have to be started one time to set some application internal default setting
> before it knows sysvipc is enabled on its second start. Look for a

That would suggest be could just be restarting the zabbix_server application
(rather than the jail). However that is not the case here. 2nd, 3rd, 4th,
restart etc of zabbix_server rc.d script makes no difference. Wheras restarting
the jail once, zabbix did not repeat error message, and all was OK.

> application configure file to set sysvipc as the default instead of the tcp
> default setting. What application are you running in the jail and how does
> that application get started?

Unfortunately sysvipc / unix semaphores is always required for this particular
program (zabbix). It has no option to switch them off, or use some alternative
mechanism instead (such as TCP). Otherwise I would have disabled sysvipc usage
in the zabbix application a long time ago.

> Almost 99% sure your problem is caused by your jailed application and not
> qjail or jail(8).

Nah. I would be very surprised, given today's output from jls and ipcs
commands, that the problem is anything to do with the zabbix application
itself. It just seems some of us could reproduce this issue, and some of us
can't. We seem to have 2 reports of success. And equally 2 of fail.

What seems to be missing is better instructions to reproduce this (my fault).
There must be some other circumstances specific to my host, which is triggering
this to occur... I will find out today.

For one thing, we know that on startup, qjail is changing the same jail.conf
file. Then re-calling jail(8) program again on the next jail in the list. So
maybe that's got something to do with it. Please bear with me. I will look into
it further.

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Hey,

I have a problem, have been sitting since a few days and can't resolve the
problem.

I want to redirect oidentd port 113 from jail, becuse i use to irssi and
want to connect with irc servers without "~" before ident example
~ident@host .

I don't know what else can i do. Nothing helps.

My etc/pf.conf

...
nat on em0 from $ip_oksymoron to any -> $ip_pub
rdr on em0 inet proto tcp from any to $ip_pub port 113 -> $ip_oksymoron
port 113
...
black in all
pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to $ip_oksymoron port 113
...

I checked from host without pf, works well. Checked from host with pf and
works well but from jail it still doesn't work. Someone can help with this
issue ?

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--- Comment #7 from dreamcat4@gmail.com ---
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More comprehensive test cases & results

OK. This occur on qjail 3.4. I have tested more thoroughly now. For full
details of those testing (to know too what else is eliminated), is documented
in the attached .TXT file "testing-details.txt".


My new findings:

* The problem only appears when jail is started by the 'qjail.bootime' rc.d
script.

* The problem does not occur if the jail is started from the command line (by
typing "qjail start $jailname").

* The 'qjail.bootime' rc.script can be restarted once, twice, tree times. After
bootup (of which not matter if occur with rest of system boot). And the
reported problem (sysvipc not working) will still occur. Does not 'go away' 2nd
time.

Recommend: future investigations should focus more on what is happening inside
the 'qjail.bootime' rc.d scipt.


I will continue to look further. Many thanks.

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--- Comment #8 from dreamcat4@gmail.com ---
Found it. The problem occurs in qjail program (not rc.d script). When saving
the definition records (the qjail config file_.

I think when enable with 'config -y', it save 'allow.sysvipc' correctly into
'qjail.local/$jailname'. But not get saved into 'qjail.global/$jailname'. So
hence the rc.d start not work, whereas the command line does work.

Not just sysvipc line. But devfs_ruleset line is also missing:

ruleset=""
sysvipc=""

Do not appear in the qjail.global copy of the definition record. It is likely
that the variable is set correct inside qjail program, but those extra line
were not inserted of both templates (only local), so is missed when writing the
'qjail.global' to disk.

See here:

freenas // root^> cat /usr/local/etc/qjail.global/webcamd 
name="webcamd"
ip4="192.168.1.214,lo0|127.0.0.214"
ip6=""
path="/usr/jails/webcamd"
interface="re0"
fstab="/usr/local/etc/qjail.fstab/webcamd"
securelevel=""
cpuset=""
fib=""
vnet=""
vinterface=""
rsockets="allow.raw_sockets"
quotas=""
nullfs=""
zfs=""
poststartssh=""
deffile="/usr/local/etc/qjail.local/webcamd"
image=""
imagetype=""
imageblockcount=""
imagedevice=""

freenas // root^> cat /usr/local/etc/qjail.local/webcamd 
name="webcamd"
ip4="192.168.1.214,lo0|127.0.0.214"
ip6=""
path="/usr/jails/webcamd"
interface="re0"
fstab="/usr/local/etc/qjail.fstab/webcamd"
securelevel=""
cpuset=""
fib=""
vnet=""
vinterface=""
rsockets="allow.raw_sockets"
ruleset=""
sysvipc="allow.sysvipc"
quotas=""
nullfs=""
zfs=""
poststartssh=""
deffile="/usr/local/etc/qjail.local/webcamd"
image=""
imagetype=""
imageblockcount=""
imagedevice=""
freenas // root^>

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--- Comment #9 from dreamcat4@gmail.com ---
No. Scratch that. This IS the qjial.bootime rc.d script. Who knew that was a
place to overwrite jails settings files ??!! Clearly not I. Otherwise would
have known to be including such fixes / ammendments in with the original patch.

Don't even want to ask why. Or wish to hear any explanations for reasons behind
what is going on in there. Let's just make a patch for it (the qjail rc.d
script). To be included whenever the next qjail release. (from my point) This
is not considered to be terribly urgent (for me / Finch users). Since we have
an auto-patching function for qjail.

I make a patch soon.

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Patch file, in 'diff -ruN' format

This patch aught to solve the issue.

Not considered urgent. (Finch will auto patch in meantime, until next official
qjail release).


Also included:
-ge 92 compatibility fix for Finch users on FreeNAS and NAS4Free. Who are still
on FreeBSD 9.2. (they still can't upgrade yet). Without that will causes some
Finch users problems / qjail installation error.

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Superseeded by Joe's patch.

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Joe, thanks for the patch correction. And fast response.
Have re-tested with patch applied (it works).

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On 06-07-2014 11:53, bryn1u85 . wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I have a problem, have been sitting since a few days and can't
> resolve the problem.
> 
> I want to redirect oidentd port 113 from jail, becuse i use to
> irssi and want to connect with irc servers without "~" before ident
> example ~ident@host .
> 
> I don't know what else can i do. Nothing helps.
> 
> My etc/pf.conf
> 
> ... nat on em0 from $ip_oksymoron to any -> $ip_pub rdr on em0 inet
> proto tcp from any to $ip_pub port 113 -> $ip_oksymoron port 113 
> ... black in all pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to
> $ip_oksymoron port 113 ...
> 
> I checked from host without pf, works well. Checked from host with
> pf and works well but from jail it still doesn't work. Someone can
> help with this issue ?

Hello,

Try adding the "static-port" keyword to your nat rule.

Your TCP connections to IRC are coming from another port than you
think, static-port fixes that.

Best regards,

Thomas Steen Rasmussen
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Hi all,

I am setting up a host with vnet jails without a public IP.

E.g. a vnet jail with a DNS server (bind) running inside.

The setup:

Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->epair1a
->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)

Inside the jail I have a simple open ipfw firewall
(ipfw allow ip4 from any to any)

Here the rules relevant to let UDP port 53 connect from the outside world 
(with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53 external.ip:53")

00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state

This does not allow DNS requests from the outside, they only get returned 
by adding

03300 allow udp from me 53 to any

I am pretty confident that the rules above work with "real interfaces". I 
have similar routers with ipfw/natd, there things are even more limited by 
interface rules (recv/xmit).

Does this mean, "keep-state" are not working properly in the mentioned 
vnet setup?

Regards
Peter

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P.S. I also have the following rules near the top:

01000 check-state
01100 allow tcp from any to any established
01200 allow ip from any to any frag

Peter

On Wed, 9 Jul 2014, Peter Ross wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am setting up a host with vnet jails without a public IP.
>
> E.g. a vnet jail with a DNS server (bind) running inside.
>
> The setup:
>
> Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
> ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->epair1a
> ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
>
> Inside the jail I have a simple open ipfw firewall
> (ipfw allow ip4 from any to any)
>
> Here the rules relevant to let UDP port 53 connect from the outside world 
> (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53 external.ip:53")
>
> 00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
> 03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
> 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>
> This does not allow DNS requests from the outside, they only get returned by 
> adding
>
> 03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
>
> I am pretty confident that the rules above work with "real interfaces". I 
> have similar routers with ipfw/natd, there things are even more limited by 
> interface rules (recv/xmit).
>
> Does this mean, "keep-state" are not working properly in the mentioned vnet 
> setup?
>
> Regards
> Peter
>

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Hi Peter,

Try to make these changes:

net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP forwarding between interfaces
net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP packets when pfil is enabled
net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter on the bridge interface
net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter on the member interface

You can find some info here
http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html

I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by default these will be
filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.

Cheers,
Peter

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On a jail created with ezjail on 10-STABLE, mergemaster is not actually 
ignoring files set with IGNORE_FILES in the jail's /etc/mergemaster.rc.

For example:

   /usr/jails/whatsit/etc/mergemaster.rc
     IGNORE_FILES="/boot/device.hints"

>From the host:
   # cd /usr/src ; mergemaster -U -D /usr/jails/whatsit
   ...
     *** There is no installed version of ./boot/device.hints

     Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./boot/device.hints
     Use 'i' to install the temporary ./boot/device.hints

     Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand

   How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later]

Using IGNORE_FILES="/usr/jails/whatsit/boot/device.hints" in the jail 
does not work either.  Nor does setting that value in the host's 
/etc/mergemaster.rc.

Is this a problem with mergemaster or the jail setup?  From a user 
standpoint, I would hope that mergemaster would read /etc/mergemaster.rc 
from the -D directory and use those values rather than the host's 
/etc/mergemaster.rc.  Maybe it does that, but I'm doing it wrong.

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What is the expected network performance of a VNET jail for network
communication between the jail and the host, or between multiple jails? I
expected it to approach the 10Gbps of the epair device, but I'm not seeing
that.

I see between 800 - 1200 Mbps in standard iperf tests both between the host
bridge interface and the vnet jail inteface. I see the same poor speeds if
I make 2 vnet jails and put one side of the epair in each and test between
them.

Is the overhead of vnet causing this? Is there anything I can do to improve
this performance.

I've tested and seen similar performance on 10.0-RELEASE and 11.0-CURRENT.

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On 10 Jul 2014, at 20:45 , Clint Armstrong <clint@clintarmstrong.net> =
wrote:

> What is the expected network performance of a VNET jail for network
> communication between the jail and the host, or between multiple =
jails? I
> expected it to approach the 10Gbps of the epair device, but I'm not =
seeing
> that.
>=20
> I see between 800 - 1200 Mbps in standard iperf tests both between the =
host
> bridge interface and the vnet jail inteface. I see the same poor =
speeds if
> I make 2 vnet jails and put one side of the epair in each and test =
between
> them.
>=20
> Is the overhead of vnet causing this? Is there anything I can do to =
improve
> this performance.
>=20
> I=92ve tested and seen similar performance on 10.0-RELEASE and =
11.0-CURRENT.

epair has a netisr queuing in between as you cannot call the input =
routines directly from the output routines.  I was able to get a bit =
more traffic through by doing pinning games.

I wonder what a vale switch for vnets could achieve.

=97=20
Bjoern A. Zeeb             "Come on. Learn, goddamn it.", WarGames, 1983


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On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:

> Hi Peter,
> Try to make these changes:
> 
> net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP forwarding between interfaces
> net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP packets when pfil is enabled
> net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter on the bridge interface
> net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter on the member interface
> 
> You can find some info
> here http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html
> 
> I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by default these will be
> filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.

Thanks. It did not change anything.

Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any to any".

This on the host system:

01000 check-state
01100 allow tcp from any to any established
01200 allow ip from any to any frag
00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state

(with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53 external.ip:53")

If I add

03300 allow udp from me 53 to any

it works..

So it makes me think check-state isn't usable - because

03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state

should cover the returning packets.

I played with your parameters but it did not help. But thanks for the 
idea.

Here again the setup:

Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->epair1a
->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)

I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet.. it does not seem to 
work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues with pf inside the 
jail let me think of it too)

Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've got it wrong?

Regards
Peter
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Have not used natd with IPFW much as always preferred PF to do everything
on the host.

I have only a wild guess - the "me" keyword in IPFW is substituted only to
the host's IPs known to itself.
The host's IPFW firewall most likely doesn't know anything about IPs
assigned to vnet interfaces inside the jail.

Vnet jails behave more like separate physical hosts.

Internet ---> [host] ------- (10.0.10.0 LAN) ------> [vnet jail]

The PF issue inside a jail is a separate problem, PF is not fully
VIMAGE/VNET aware as far as I know.

Can someone comment on these or correct me?

P



On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Ross <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de>
wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:
>
>  Hi Peter,
>> Try to make these changes:
>>
>> net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP forwarding between interfaces
>> net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP packets when pfil is enabled
>> net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter on the bridge interface
>> net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter on the member interface
>>
>> You can find some info
>> here http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html
>>
>> I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by default these will be
>> filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.
>>
>
> Thanks. It did not change anything.
>
> Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any to any".
>
> This on the host system:
>
> 01000 check-state
> 01100 allow tcp from any to any established
> 01200 allow ip from any to any frag
> 00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
> 03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
> 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>
> (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53 external.ip:53")
>
> If I add
>
> 03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
>
> it works..
>
> So it makes me think check-state isn't usable - because
>
> 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>
> should cover the returning packets.
>
> I played with your parameters but it did not help. But thanks for the idea.
>
> Here again the setup:
>
> Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
> ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->epair1a
> ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
>
> I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet.. it does not seem to
> work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues with pf inside the
> jail let me think of it too)
>
> Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've got it wrong?
>
> Regards
> Peter

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Hello,

 

I want to ask what are advantages and disadvantages using VNET?

I know that it allows each jail to have a private networking stack, but what
else?

 

Regards

Marthin


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Peter Toth wrote:
> Have not used natd with IPFW much as always preferred PF to do everything
> on the host.
> 
> I have only a wild guess - the "me" keyword in IPFW is substituted only to
> the host's IPs known to itself.
> The host's IPFW firewall most likely doesn't know anything about IPs
> assigned to vnet interfaces inside the jail.
> 
> Vnet jails behave more like separate physical hosts.
> 
> Internet ---> [host] ------- (10.0.10.0 LAN) ------> [vnet jail]
> 
> The PF issue inside a jail is a separate problem, PF is not fully
> VIMAGE/VNET aware as far as I know.
> 
> Can someone comment on these or correct me?
> 
> P
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Ross <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Peter,
>>> Try to make these changes:
>>>
>>> net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP forwarding between interfaces
>>> net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP packets when pfil is enabled
>>> net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter on the bridge interface
>>> net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter on the member interface
>>>
>>> You can find some info
>>> here http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html
>>>
>>> I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by default these will be
>>> filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.
>>>
>> Thanks. It did not change anything.
>>
>> Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any to any".
>>
>> This on the host system:
>>
>> 01000 check-state
>> 01100 allow tcp from any to any established
>> 01200 allow ip from any to any frag
>> 00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
>> 03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
>> 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>
>> (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53 external.ip:53")
>>
>> If I add
>>
>> 03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
>>
>> it works..
>>
>> So it makes me think check-state isn't usable - because
>>
>> 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>
>> should cover the returning packets.
>>
>> I played with your parameters but it did not help. But thanks for the idea.
>>
>> Here again the setup:
>>
>> Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
>> ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->epair1a
>> ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
>>
>> I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet.. it does not seem to
>> work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues with pf inside the
>> jail let me think of it too)
>>
>> Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've got it wrong?
>>
>> Regards
>> Peter

Any firewall function that runs in the kernel will not function inside 
of a vnet/vimage jail.




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Marcin Michta wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> I want to ask what are advantages and disadvantages using VNET?
> 
> I know that it allows each jail to have a private networking stack, but what
> else?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Marthin
> 

Its experimental, it has many bugs posted in PR system, loses memory 
every time a vnet jail is stopped, firewalls in vnet jail don't work,
other that these show stoppers, use at your own risk.


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> Marcin Michta wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I want to ask what are advantages and disadvantages using VNET?
> > 
> > I know that it allows each jail to have a private networking stack, but what
> > else?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Marthin
> > 
> 
> Its experimental, it has many bugs posted in PR system, loses memory 
> every time a vnet jail is stopped, firewalls in vnet jail don't work,
> other that these show stoppers, use at your own risk.

Hey, man. Stop panic!

Firewall works very well. Memory leak on shutdown it is not very big problem.
Main advantage for me is: I am able to filtering and prioritization traffic coming thought base system. My vnete'ed jails is like a regular LAN clients and they share INET pipe with appropriate weight. I use ipfw.





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This sounds a bit vague, can you please explain in more detail what you
meant by this?

IPFW works inside a vnet jail - You can manage per jail firewall instances
without any issues.

The only firewall which cannot function inside a jail (yet) is PF.

P


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:

> Peter Toth wrote:
>
>> Have not used natd with IPFW much as always preferred PF to do everything
>> on the host.
>>
>> I have only a wild guess - the "me" keyword in IPFW is substituted only to
>> the host's IPs known to itself.
>> The host's IPFW firewall most likely doesn't know anything about IPs
>> assigned to vnet interfaces inside the jail.
>>
>> Vnet jails behave more like separate physical hosts.
>>
>> Internet ---> [host] ------- (10.0.10.0 LAN) ------> [vnet jail]
>>
>> The PF issue inside a jail is a separate problem, PF is not fully
>> VIMAGE/VNET aware as far as I know.
>>
>> Can someone comment on these or correct me?
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Ross <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.
>> de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Peter,
>>>
>>>> Try to make these changes:
>>>>
>>>> net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP forwarding between interfaces
>>>> net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP packets when pfil is
>>>> enabled
>>>> net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter on the bridge interface
>>>> net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter on the member interface
>>>>
>>>> You can find some info
>>>> here http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html
>>>>
>>>> I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by default these will be
>>>> filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks. It did not change anything.
>>>
>>> Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any to any".
>>>
>>> This on the host system:
>>>
>>> 01000 check-state
>>> 01100 allow tcp from any to any established
>>> 01200 allow ip from any to any frag
>>> 00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
>>> 03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
>>> 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>>
>>> (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53 external.ip:53")
>>>
>>> If I add
>>>
>>> 03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
>>>
>>> it works..
>>>
>>> So it makes me think check-state isn't usable - because
>>>
>>> 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>>
>>> should cover the returning packets.
>>>
>>> I played with your parameters but it did not help. But thanks for the
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> Here again the setup:
>>>
>>> Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
>>> ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->epair1a
>>> ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
>>>
>>> I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet.. it does not seem to
>>> work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues with pf inside the
>>> jail let me think of it too)
>>>
>>> Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've got it wrong?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Peter
>>>
>>
> Any firewall function that runs in the kernel will not function inside of
> a vnet/vimage jail.
>
>
>
>

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wishmaster wrote:
> 
>  
>  --- Original message ---
>  From: "Fbsd8" <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>
>  Date: 11 July 2014, 16:49:08
>   
> 
> 
>> Marcin Michta wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to ask what are advantages and disadvantages using VNET?
>>>
>>> I know that it allows each jail to have a private networking stack, but what
>>> else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Marthin
>>>
>> Its experimental, it has many bugs posted in PR system, loses memory 
>> every time a vnet jail is stopped, firewalls in vnet jail don't work,
>> other that these show stoppers, use at your own risk.
> 
> Hey, man. Stop panic!
> 
> Firewall works very well. Memory leak on shutdown it is not very big problem.
> Main advantage for me is: I am able to filtering and prioritization traffic coming thought base system. My vnete'ed jails is like a regular LAN clients and they share INET pipe with appropriate weight. I use ipfw.
> 


Oh ya, host panic on boot is another common happing with vimage and 
firewall ipf and pf trying to run inside of a vnet jail and on the host 
at the same time.

Many people DO consider any kind of memory leak in kernel software such 
as vimage is a really big show stopper for not using it in a production 
system.

If you read a little bit closer the previous post you will see it's 
talking about firewall running inside of a vnet/vimage jail. It doesn't 
  say anything about running a host firewall directing traffic to a ip 
number assigned to a vnet jail.

Here is a list of some of the vnet outstanding PR's

143808, 147950, 148155, 152148, 160496, 160541, 161094, 164763, 165252, 
176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092, 188010, 191468

vnet/vimage is experimental and should never be used in a production 
system and be exposed to the public network. It is not a secure software 
configuration. Sure you can disregard all warnings and common sense and 
risk your host system, thats your choice.







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Peter Toth wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com 
> <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Peter Toth wrote:
> 
>         Have not used natd with IPFW much as always preferred PF to do
>         everything
>         on the host.
> 
>         I have only a wild guess - the "me" keyword in IPFW is
>         substituted only to
>         the host's IPs known to itself.
>         The host's IPFW firewall most likely doesn't know anything about IPs
>         assigned to vnet interfaces inside the jail.
> 
>         Vnet jails behave more like separate physical hosts.
> 
>         Internet ---> [host] ------- (10.0.10.0 LAN) ------> [vnet jail]
> 
>         The PF issue inside a jail is a separate problem, PF is not fully
>         VIMAGE/VNET aware as far as I know.
> 
>         Can someone comment on these or correct me?
> 
>         P
> 
> 
> 
>         On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Ross
>         <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.__de
>         <mailto:Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de>>
>         wrote:
> 
>             On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:
> 
>              Hi Peter,
> 
>                 Try to make these changes:
> 
>                 net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP forwarding
>                 between interfaces
>                 net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP packets
>                 when pfil is enabled
>                 net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter on the
>                 bridge interface
>                 net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter on the
>                 member interface
> 
>                 You can find some info
>                 here
>                 http://iocage.readthedocs.org/__en/latest/help-no-internet.__html
>                 <http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html>
> 
>                 I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by
>                 default these will be
>                 filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.
> 
>             Thanks. It did not change anything.
> 
>             Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any to any".
> 
>             This on the host system:
> 
>             01000 check-state
>             01100 allow tcp from any to any established
>             01200 allow ip from any to any frag
>             00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
>             03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
>             03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
> 
>             (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53
>             <http://10.0.10.1:53> external.ip:53")
> 
>             If I add
> 
>             03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
> 
>             it works..
> 
>             So it makes me think check-state isn't usable - because
> 
>             03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
> 
>             should cover the returning packets.
> 
>             I played with your parameters but it did not help. But
>             thanks for the idea.
> 
>             Here again the setup:
> 
>             Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
>             ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->__epair1a
>             ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
> 
>             I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet.. it does
>             not seem to
>             work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues with pf
>             inside the
>             jail let me think of it too)
> 
>             Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've got it
>             wrong?
> 
>             Regards
>             Peter
> 
> 
>     Any firewall function that runs in the kernel will not function
>     inside of a vnet/vimage jail.
> 
> 
> 
> This sounds a bit vague, can you please explain in more detail what you 
> meant by this?
> 
> IPFW works inside a vnet jail - You can manage per jail firewall 
> instances without any issues.
> 
> The only firewall which cannot function inside a jail (yet) is PF.
> 
> P
> 
> 

You are incorrect.
Here is a list of some of the vnet/vimage outstanding PR's

143808, 147950, 148155, 152148, 160496, 160541, 161094, 164763, 165252, 
176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092, 188010, 191468







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--- Comment #10 from joeb1@a1poweruser.com ---
This pr should be closed. This PR is against the /etc/rc.d/jail script which in
10.0 is depreciated and was replaced in 9.1 and newer with jail(8) program. 
This is dead. lets move on to jail(8) method of jails and vnet jails.

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Dear Joe Barbish (alias  fbsd8@a1poweruser.com),

When you going to stop trolling the FreeBSD mailing list and spread
disinformation? For anyone interested please check this mail thread on who
fbsd8 really is:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail//2013-March/002147.html

Very telling isn't it!

People come to this place to learn, share information, help out other folks
and most importantly to have a constructive debate! (obviously some would
rather divert this effort)

The PR number's mentioned are mostly outdated from the 8.x and 9.x series -
some of them are completely irrelevant (like ACPI) or for a i386 system.
Beyond this I am categorically refusing to waste any energy and time on
answering any trolling/diversion attempts by Joe Barbish.
Most importantly I encourage anyone avoiding his dubious Qjail project by
far - for details please check the link above.

I am not going to burn time on dissecting each PR one-by-one but rather
share my experience with VNET.

Over the last year and a half have deployed numerous production systems
based on amd64 10-RELEASE with VNET enabled and PF running on the host.
Encountered 0 instability issues! Details on how to do this are here:
http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/real-world.html

As I mentioned before IPFW works in a jail and PF only works on the host.

Back to the original issue though, Peter could you please share your IPFW
config with me (maybe just send it directly to me), would be very
interested to get it going in my lab setup and add a howto page to share
this with others.

Cheers,
Peter









On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:

> Peter Toth wrote:
>
>  On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com <mailto:
>> fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Peter Toth wrote:
>>
>>         Have not used natd with IPFW much as always preferred PF to do
>>         everything
>>         on the host.
>>
>>         I have only a wild guess - the "me" keyword in IPFW is
>>         substituted only to
>>         the host's IPs known to itself.
>>         The host's IPFW firewall most likely doesn't know anything about
>> IPs
>>         assigned to vnet interfaces inside the jail.
>>
>>         Vnet jails behave more like separate physical hosts.
>>
>>         Internet ---> [host] ------- (10.0.10.0 LAN) ------> [vnet jail]
>>
>>         The PF issue inside a jail is a separate problem, PF is not fully
>>         VIMAGE/VNET aware as far as I know.
>>
>>         Can someone comment on these or correct me?
>>
>>         P
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Ross
>>         <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.__de
>>         <mailto:Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de>>
>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>             On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:
>>
>>              Hi Peter,
>>
>>                 Try to make these changes:
>>
>>                 net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP forwarding
>>                 between interfaces
>>                 net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP packets
>>                 when pfil is enabled
>>                 net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter on the
>>                 bridge interface
>>                 net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter on the
>>                 member interface
>>
>>                 You can find some info
>>                 here
>>                 http://iocage.readthedocs.org/
>> __en/latest/help-no-internet.__html
>>
>>                 <http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-
>> internet.html>
>>
>>                 I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by
>>                 default these will be
>>                 filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.
>>
>>             Thanks. It did not change anything.
>>
>>             Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any to any".
>>
>>             This on the host system:
>>
>>             01000 check-state
>>             01100 allow tcp from any to any established
>>             01200 allow ip from any to any frag
>>             00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
>>             03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
>>             03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>
>>             (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53
>>             <http://10.0.10.1:53> external.ip:53")
>>
>>
>>             If I add
>>
>>             03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
>>
>>             it works..
>>
>>             So it makes me think check-state isn't usable - because
>>
>>             03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>
>>             should cover the returning packets.
>>
>>             I played with your parameters but it did not help. But
>>             thanks for the idea.
>>
>>             Here again the setup:
>>
>>             Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
>>             ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->__epair1a
>>
>>             ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
>>
>>             I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet.. it does
>>             not seem to
>>             work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues with pf
>>             inside the
>>             jail let me think of it too)
>>
>>             Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've got it
>>             wrong?
>>
>>             Regards
>>             Peter
>>
>>
>>     Any firewall function that runs in the kernel will not function
>>     inside of a vnet/vimage jail.
>>
>>
>>
>> This sounds a bit vague, can you please explain in more detail what you
>> meant by this?
>>
>> IPFW works inside a vnet jail - You can manage per jail firewall
>> instances without any issues.
>>
>> The only firewall which cannot function inside a jail (yet) is PF.
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>>
> You are incorrect.
> Here is a list of some of the vnet/vimage outstanding PR's
>
> 143808, 147950, 148155, 152148, 160496, 160541, 161094, 164763, 165252,
> 176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092, 188010, 191468
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi!

> > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com 
> > <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>> wrote:
[...]
> Here is a list of some of the vnet/vimage outstanding PR's
>
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> 176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092, 188010, 191468

188010 was committed 2014-03-27 -- why is it still outstanding ?

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 08:24:36 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
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 > > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com 
 > > > <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>> wrote:
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 > > Here is a list of some of the vnet/vimage outstanding PR's
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 > > 176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092, 188010, 191468
 > 
 > 188010 was committed 2014-03-27 -- why is it still outstanding ?

185092 was also fixed and merged back to stable/10 and stable/9 in May.

I'm not about to check all of them .. we're used to these sour grapes.

cheers, Ian

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--- Comment #5 from joeb1@a1poweruser.com ---
Close this pr.
In kernel ntfs has been removed from 10.0 base see
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sbin/Makefile?view=log&pathrev=247665

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--- Comment #6 from Lukasz Wasikowski <lukasz@wasikowski.net> ---
ntfs is something completely different than nfs, this PR stands valid.

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Sham on you Peter Toth.
Slander and calling names about someone who does not agree with you is 
childish and something I would expect from a 10 year old.

This foolish post only shows how unprofessional your behavior is.
Sham on you.

Every thing stated by me is the truth and verified by the outstanding 
pr's. If you can't trust the PR system as credible, then what can you trust.

I don't disagree that you may have a working vnet/vimage configuration 
running on your hobby host system or that your foolishly exposing your 
hobby host system to public network attack and host system takeover. 
There is a very big difference between software that does not crash when 
started and software that performs within its design parameters. I think 
just because your configuration does not crash means to you its working 
as expected. This is foolish in light of all the negative warnings about 
vimage.

vimage is experimental and nothing you say can change that fact. Readers 
don't believe me or Peter Toth and review the listed pr numbers and do 
your own search of bugzilla on keyword vnet or vimage and make up your 
own mind.


Peter Toth wrote:
> Dear Joe Barbish (alias  fbsd8@a1poweruser.com 
> <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>),
> 
> When you going to stop trolling the FreeBSD mailing list and spread 
> disinformation? 
> 
> People come to this place to learn, share information, help out other 
> folks and most importantly to have a constructive debate! (obviously 
> some would rather divert this effort)
> 
> The PR number's mentioned are mostly outdated from the 8.x and 9.x 
> series - some of them are completely irrelevant (like ACPI) or for a 
> i386 system.
> Beyond this I am categorically refusing to waste any energy and time on 
> answering any trolling/diversion attempts by Joe Barbish.
> 
> I am not going to burn time on dissecting each PR one-by-one but rather 
> share my experience with VNET.
> 
> Over the last year and a half have deployed numerous production systems 
> based on amd64 10-RELEASE with VNET enabled and PF running on the host.
> Encountered 0 instability issues! Details on how to do this are 
> here: http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/real-world.html
> 
> As I mentioned before IPFW works in a jail and PF only works on the host.
> 
> Back to the original issue though, Peter could you please share your 
> IPFW config with me (maybe just send it directly to me), would be very 
> interested to get it going in my lab setup and add a howto page to share 
> this with others.
> 
> Cheers,
> Peter
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com 
> <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Peter Toth wrote:
> 
>         On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com
>         <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com
>         <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>>__> wrote:
> 
>             Peter Toth wrote:
> 
>                 Have not used natd with IPFW much as always preferred PF
>         to do
>                 everything
>                 on the host.
> 
>                 I have only a wild guess - the "me" keyword in IPFW is
>                 substituted only to
>                 the host's IPs known to itself.
>                 The host's IPFW firewall most likely doesn't know
>         anything about IPs
>                 assigned to vnet interfaces inside the jail.
> 
>                 Vnet jails behave more like separate physical hosts.
> 
>                 Internet ---> [host] ------- (10.0.10.0 LAN) ------>
>         [vnet jail]
> 
>                 The PF issue inside a jail is a separate problem, PF is
>         not fully
>                 VIMAGE/VNET aware as far as I know.
> 
>                 Can someone comment on these or correct me?
> 
>                 P
> 
> 
> 
>                 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Ross
>                 <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.____de
>                 <mailto:Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-__berlin.de
>         <mailto:Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de>>>
> 
>                 wrote:
> 
>                     On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:
> 
>                      Hi Peter,
> 
>                         Try to make these changes:
> 
>                         net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP
>         forwarding
>                         between interfaces
>                         net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP
>         packets
>                         when pfil is enabled
>                         net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter
>         on the
>                         bridge interface
>                         net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter
>         on the
>                         member interface
> 
>                         You can find some info
>                         here
>                        
>         http://iocage.readthedocs.org/____en/latest/help-no-internet.____html
>         <http://iocage.readthedocs.org/__en/latest/help-no-internet.__html>
> 
>                        
>         <http://iocage.readthedocs.__org/en/latest/help-no-__internet.html
>         <http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html>>
> 
>                         I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by
>                         default these will be
>                         filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.
> 
>                     Thanks. It did not change anything.
> 
>                     Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any
>         to any".
> 
>                     This on the host system:
> 
>                     01000 check-state
>                     01100 allow tcp from any to any established
>                     01200 allow ip from any to any frag
>                     00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
>                     03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53
>         keep-state
>                     03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
> 
>                     (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp
>         10.0.10.1:53 <http://10.0.10.1:53>
>                     <http://10.0.10.1:53> external.ip:53")
> 
> 
>                     If I add
> 
>                     03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
> 
>                     it works..
> 
>                     So it makes me think check-state isn't usable - because
> 
>                     03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
> 
>                     should cover the returning packets.
> 
>                     I played with your parameters but it did not help. But
>                     thanks for the idea.
> 
>                     Here again the setup:
> 
>                     Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
>                     ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->____epair1a
> 
>                     ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
> 
>                     I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet..
>         it does
>                     not seem to
>                     work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues
>         with pf
>                     inside the
>                     jail let me think of it too)
> 
>                     Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've
>         got it
>                     wrong?
> 
>                     Regards
>                     Peter
> 
> 
>             Any firewall function that runs in the kernel will not function
>             inside of a vnet/vimage jail.
> 
> 
> 
>         This sounds a bit vague, can you please explain in more detail
>         what you meant by this?
> 
>         IPFW works inside a vnet jail - You can manage per jail firewall
>         instances without any issues.
> 
>         The only firewall which cannot function inside a jail (yet) is PF.
> 
>         P
> 
> 
> 
>     You are incorrect.
>     Here is a list of some of the vnet/vimage outstanding PR's
> 
>     143808, 147950, 148155, 152148, 160496, 160541, 161094, 164763,
>     165252, 176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092,
>     188010, 191468
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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W dniu 2014-07-12 16:52, Fbsd8 pisze:

> Sham on you Peter Toth.
> Slander and calling names about someone who does not agree with you is
> childish and something I would expect from a 10 year old.
> 
> This foolish post only shows how unprofessional your behavior is.
> Sham on you.

And this came from person who stole someone else work [1] and then call
original author paranoid, mentally ill and demential [2]

Shame on you Joe Barbish. We remember what you did.

Anyway, it's not your business to decide for others what they should run
on production. It's their choice and their risk.

[1] Claiming copyright on others work is stealing for me:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail//2013-March/002147.html

[2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail//2013-March/002149.html

-- 
best regards,
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Unfortunately you don't even grasp what the meaning of the words like:
shame, truth, childish or professional is - and that's the bottom line
mate.




On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:

> Sham on you Peter Toth.
> Slander and calling names about someone who does not agree with you is
> childish and something I would expect from a 10 year old.
>
> This foolish post only shows how unprofessional your behavior is.
> Sham on you.
>
> Every thing stated by me is the truth and verified by the outstanding
> pr's. If you can't trust the PR system as credible, then what can you trust.
>
> I don't disagree that you may have a working vnet/vimage configuration
> running on your hobby host system or that your foolishly exposing your
> hobby host system to public network attack and host system takeover. There
> is a very big difference between software that does not crash when started
> and software that performs within its design parameters. I think just
> because your configuration does not crash means to you its working as
> expected. This is foolish in light of all the negative warnings about
> vimage.
>
> vimage is experimental and nothing you say can change that fact. Readers
> don't believe me or Peter Toth and review the listed pr numbers and do your
> own search of bugzilla on keyword vnet or vimage and make up your own mind.
>
>
> Peter Toth wrote:
>
>> Dear Joe Barbish (alias  fbsd8@a1poweruser.com <mailto:
>> fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>),
>>
>>
>> When you going to stop trolling the FreeBSD mailing list and spread
>> disinformation?
>> People come to this place to learn, share information, help out other
>> folks and most importantly to have a constructive debate! (obviously some
>> would rather divert this effort)
>>
>> The PR number's mentioned are mostly outdated from the 8.x and 9.x series
>> - some of them are completely irrelevant (like ACPI) or for a i386 system.
>> Beyond this I am categorically refusing to waste any energy and time on
>> answering any trolling/diversion attempts by Joe Barbish.
>>
>> I am not going to burn time on dissecting each PR one-by-one but rather
>> share my experience with VNET.
>>
>> Over the last year and a half have deployed numerous production systems
>> based on amd64 10-RELEASE with VNET enabled and PF running on the host.
>> Encountered 0 instability issues! Details on how to do this are here:
>> http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/real-world.html
>>
>> As I mentioned before IPFW works in a jail and PF only works on the host.
>>
>> Back to the original issue though, Peter could you please share your IPFW
>> config with me (maybe just send it directly to me), would be very
>> interested to get it going in my lab setup and add a howto page to share
>> this with others.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com <mailto:
>> fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Peter Toth wrote:
>>
>>         On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com
>>         <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com
>>
>>         <mailto:fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>>__> wrote:
>>
>>             Peter Toth wrote:
>>
>>                 Have not used natd with IPFW much as always preferred PF
>>         to do
>>                 everything
>>                 on the host.
>>
>>                 I have only a wild guess - the "me" keyword in IPFW is
>>                 substituted only to
>>                 the host's IPs known to itself.
>>                 The host's IPFW firewall most likely doesn't know
>>         anything about IPs
>>                 assigned to vnet interfaces inside the jail.
>>
>>                 Vnet jails behave more like separate physical hosts.
>>
>>                 Internet ---> [host] ------- (10.0.10.0 LAN) ------>
>>         [vnet jail]
>>
>>                 The PF issue inside a jail is a separate problem, PF is
>>         not fully
>>                 VIMAGE/VNET aware as far as I know.
>>
>>                 Can someone comment on these or correct me?
>>
>>                 P
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Ross
>>                 <Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.____de
>>                 <mailto:Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-__berlin.de
>>
>>         <mailto:Peter.Ross@alumni.tu-berlin.de>>>
>>
>>                 wrote:
>>
>>                     On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Peter Toth wrote:
>>
>>                      Hi Peter,
>>
>>                         Try to make these changes:
>>
>>                         net.inet.ip.forwarding=1       # Enable IP
>>         forwarding
>>                         between interfaces
>>                         net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip=0  # Only pass IP
>>         packets
>>                         when pfil is enabled
>>                         net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge=0  # Packet filter
>>         on the
>>                         bridge interface
>>                         net.link.bridge.pfil_member=0  # Packet filter
>>         on the
>>                         member interface
>>
>>                         You can find some info
>>                         here
>>                                http://iocage.readthedocs.org/
>> ____en/latest/help-no-internet.____html
>>         <http://iocage.readthedocs.org/__en/latest/help-no-
>> internet.__html>
>>
>>                                <http://iocage.readthedocs.__
>> org/en/latest/help-no-__internet.html
>>
>>         <http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/help-no-internet.html>>
>>
>>                         I've had these issues before with PF and IPFW, by
>>                         default these will be
>>                         filtering on your bridge and member interfaces.
>>
>>                     Thanks. It did not change anything.
>>
>>                     Now, inside_ the jail I run "ipfw allow ip from any
>>         to any".
>>
>>                     This on the host system:
>>
>>                     01000 check-state
>>                     01100 allow tcp from any to any established
>>                     01200 allow ip from any to any frag
>>                     00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
>>                     03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53
>>         keep-state
>>                     03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>
>>                     (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp
>>         10.0.10.1:53 <http://10.0.10.1:53>
>>                     <http://10.0.10.1:53> external.ip:53")
>>
>>
>>                     If I add
>>
>>                     03300 allow udp from me 53 to any
>>
>>                     it works..
>>
>>                     So it makes me think check-state isn't usable -
>> because
>>
>>                     03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
>>
>>                     should cover the returning packets.
>>
>>                     I played with your parameters but it did not help. But
>>                     thanks for the idea.
>>
>>                     Here again the setup:
>>
>>                     Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external
>> IP)
>>                     ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->____epair1a
>>
>>
>>                     ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
>>
>>                     I wonder what kind of restrictions exist with vnet..
>>         it does
>>                     not seem to
>>                     work _exactly_ as a "real" network stack (the issues
>>         with pf
>>                     inside the
>>                     jail let me think of it too)
>>
>>                     Did I find a restriction, a bug - or just that I've
>>         got it
>>                     wrong?
>>
>>                     Regards
>>                     Peter
>>
>>
>>             Any firewall function that runs in the kernel will not
>> function
>>             inside of a vnet/vimage jail.
>>
>>
>>
>>         This sounds a bit vague, can you please explain in more detail
>>         what you meant by this?
>>
>>         IPFW works inside a vnet jail - You can manage per jail firewall
>>         instances without any issues.
>>
>>         The only firewall which cannot function inside a jail (yet) is PF.
>>
>>         P
>>
>>
>>
>>     You are incorrect.
>>     Here is a list of some of the vnet/vimage outstanding PR's
>>
>>     143808, 147950, 148155, 152148, 160496, 160541, 161094, 164763,
>>     165252, 176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092,
>>     188010, 191468
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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A couple of patches to make mergemaster work better with ezjails.

These are only very superficially tested.  Feedback welcome.

1. If /etc/mergemaster.rc exists in the jail, it is sourced.  This
    allows IGNORE_FILES to be set in the jail.  And other settings, but
    that's the one I wanted.

2. If /etc/localtime in the jail is a plain file, as when tzsetup has
    been run in the jail, tzsetup reinstalls the same file.  It will come
    from the host, but at first glance this does not seem to be a
    problem, seeing that jails should be updated after the host has been
    updated.  Because /usr/share/zoneinfo does not exist in the jail, I
    did not see a clean way to use tzsetup -C.  A link could be created
    to the basejail's /usr/share/zoneinfo, then deleted after
    tzsetup -C has run, or maybe there is a better way.
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On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 08:08:52PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
> A couple of patches to make mergemaster work better with ezjails.
> 
> These are only very superficially tested.  Feedback welcome.
> 
> 1. If /etc/mergemaster.rc exists in the jail, it is sourced.  This
>    allows IGNORE_FILES to be set in the jail.  And other settings, but
>    that's the one I wanted.
> 

How exactly does it work?

Is jailed root allowed to create /etc/mergemaster.rc?

If so, that would be a jail escape vector - an attacker puts commands they
want to execute inside and mergemaster sourcing the file will trigger
executing them.

In fact running mergemaster from "outside" on an untrusted jail seems
like a security weakness even without jailed-root controlled rc file
since they can try to do something fishy with symlinks which now resolve
to stuff on the host.

The following should be safe enough:
- have a dedicated RO jail
- mount to-be-updated jail under /mnt/jail or whatever
- mount sources/whatever RO under /usr/src or whatever
- run update process from inside dedicated RO jail

-- 
Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik gmail.com>

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Mateusz Guzik wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 08:08:52PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
>> A couple of patches to make mergemaster work better with ezjails.
>>
>> These are only very superficially tested.  Feedback welcome.
>>
>> 1. If /etc/mergemaster.rc exists in the jail, it is sourced.  This
>>    allows IGNORE_FILES to be set in the jail.  And other settings, but
>>    that's the one I wanted.
>>
>
> How exactly does it work?
>
> Is jailed root allowed to create /etc/mergemaster.rc?

Yes.  Or at least I don't know of anything preventing that.

> If so, that would be a jail escape vector - an attacker puts commands they
> want to execute inside and mergemaster sourcing the file will trigger
> executing them.

Ouch.  Seems obvious now that you mention it.  Probably mergemaster.rc 
should have a defined format rather than being sourced anyway.

Another way to implement ignored files would be to extend the 
definitions in (the host's) /etc/mergemaster.rc to include ignored files 
by jail name or full path.

Full paths do not work presently because IGNORE_FILES just deletes the 
temporary file so it is not compared.

> In fact running mergemaster from "outside" on an untrusted jail seems
> like a security weakness even without jailed-root controlled rc file
> since they can try to do something fishy with symlinks which now resolve
> to stuff on the host.
>
> The following should be safe enough:
> - have a dedicated RO jail
> - mount to-be-updated jail under /mnt/jail or whatever
> - mount sources/whatever RO under /usr/src or whatever
> - run update process from inside dedicated RO jail

Thank you!

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:08:52 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 > A couple of patches to make mergemaster work better with ezjails.
 > 
 > These are only very superficially tested.  Feedback welcome.
 > 
 > 1. If /etc/mergemaster.rc exists in the jail, it is sourced.  This
 >    allows IGNORE_FILES to be set in the jail.  And other settings, but
 >    that's the one I wanted.

 # Read /etc/mergemaster.rc first so the one in $HOME can override
 #
 if [ -r /etc/mergemaster.rc ]; then
-  . /etc/mergemaster.rc
+  . "${DESTDIR}/etc/mergemaster.rc"
 fi

 # Read .mergemasterrc before command line so CLI can override
 #
 if [ -r "$HOME/.mergemasterrc" ]; then
-  . "$HOME/.mergemasterrc"
+  . "${DESTDIR}/$HOME/.mergemasterrc"
 fi

Maybe a dumb question, but ..

In both cases, don't we need to test the readability of those files with 
${DESTDIR} prepended, rather than the originals, before sourcing them?  
Or can we here safely assume that they will exist? Or doesn't it matter?

cheers, Ian
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 07:42:42 +1200, Peter Toth wrote:
 > Hi Ian,
 > 
 > This is for the jail's securelevel option. If you set it to the highest
 > number 3 it will fail to load IPFW rules in a jail during startup.
 > 
 > Snip from "man securelevel":
 > Network secure mode - same as highly secure mode, plus IP packet
 > filter rules (see ipfw(8), ipfirewall(4) and pfctl(8)) cannot be
 > changed and dummynet(4) or pf(4) configuration cannot be adjusted.
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Peter

I understood why 3 wouldn't work.  What I hadn't realised was that you 
were defaulting iocage jails to securelevel 3, which just shows that I 
hadn't read the manual :)

ezjail has tests for securelevel > 0 re installing or updating, but I 
assumed that to refer to the host's securelevel.

Thanks, Ian

 > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
 > 
 > > Hi Peter,
 > >
 > > from your FAQ at http://iocage.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq.html
 > >
 > > "If you plan on using IPFW inside a jail make sure securelevel is set to 2"
 > >
 > > Unless this is also a FAQ you can point me to, can you explain why this
 > > is needed?  Reading security(7) leaves me unclear on how securelevels
 > > apply in a jail, or what it may be about ipfw(8) particularly that could
 > > compromise jail (or host?) security, that other services could not?
 > >
 > > cheers, Ian

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Hi Peter, going back to your second message ..

On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:24:27 +1000, Peter Ross wrote:

 > P.S. I also have the following rules near the top:
 > 
 > 01000 check-state
 > 01100 allow tcp from any to any established

For one thing, if you are running named as an authoritative nameserver 
in the jail, you'll also need to forward tcp port 53 traffic as well, as 
that's what's needed for zone updates to/from secondary NS.  So you may 
need to separate tcp port 53 traffic from other host traffic too.

And often, if setting state for your tcp rules as well, you rather want 
to _deny_ established traffic, but it does depend on your mix of rules.

 > 01200 allow ip from any to any frag

Indeed.

 > Peter
 > 
 > On Wed, 9 Jul 2014, Peter Ross wrote:
 > 
 > > Hi all,
 > > 
 > > I am setting up a host with vnet jails without a public IP.
 > > 
 > > E.g. a vnet jail with a DNS server (bind) running inside.
 > > 
 > > The setup:
 > > 
 > > Internet->age0(host interface with natd and external IP)
 > > ->bridge10(10.0.10.254)->epair1a
 > > ->epair1b(10.0.10.1 in bind vnet jail)
 > > 
 > > Inside the jail I have a simple open ipfw firewall
 > > (ipfw allow ip4 from any to any)
 > > 
 > > Here the rules relevant to let UDP port 53 connect from the outside world
 > > (with natd redirecting "redirect_port udp 10.0.10.1:53 external.ip:53")
 > > 
 > > 00100 divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via age0
 > > 03100 allow udp from any to 10.0.10.1 dst-port 53 keep-state
 > > 03200 allow udp from any to me dst-port 53 keep-state
 > > 
 > > This does not allow DNS requests from the outside, they only get returned
 > > by adding
 > > 
 > > 03300 allow udp from me 53 to any

It's not quite clear which addresses are where; could you show ifconfig 
for the host interfaces, including bridge and epair, obscuring public 
IP/s as necessary?  'me' on the host refers to any address configured on 
any of the host's interfaces, so might be a bit broad; more explicit 
rule/s might reveal this problem better?

Personally I don't use stateful rules for DNS at all, and I'm pretty 
careful if ever I use 'in keep-state' at all.  Hmm, maybe rule 3100 
should be qualified with 'in', or you may be inflicting a double-state 
situation?  Use 'ipfw -ted show' to examine dynamic rules incl. expired.

 > > I am pretty confident that the rules above work with "real interfaces". I
 > > have similar routers with ipfw/natd, there things are even more limited by
 > > interface rules (recv/xmit).
 > > 
 > > Does this mean, "keep-state" are not working properly in the mentioned vnet
 > > setup?

Not sure, but if it were me I'd add 'log' to all relevant rules and make 
sure net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit is set to something sensible, like the 
default of 100, in order to actually outline your flows.  It might be 
helpful to temporarily log packets to and from the jail also, assuming 
that logging to jail's /etc/security is working properly these days?

(verbose_limit reminds me of another of Joe B's silly recommendations in 
the IPFW Handbook section that I promised Warren I'd help clean up ..)

cheers, Ian

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, Ian Smith wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:08:52 -0600, Warren Block wrote:
>> A couple of patches to make mergemaster work better with ezjails.
>> > These are only very superficially tested.  Feedback welcome.
>> > 1. If /etc/mergemaster.rc exists in the jail, it is sourced.  This
>>    allows IGNORE_FILES to be set in the jail.  And other settings, but
>>    that's the one I wanted.
>
> # Read /etc/mergemaster.rc first so the one in $HOME can override
> #
> if [ -r /etc/mergemaster.rc ]; then
> -  . /etc/mergemaster.rc
> +  . "${DESTDIR}/etc/mergemaster.rc"
> fi
>
> # Read .mergemasterrc before command line so CLI can override
> #
> if [ -r "$HOME/.mergemasterrc" ]; then
> -  . "$HOME/.mergemasterrc"
> +  . "${DESTDIR}/$HOME/.mergemasterrc"
> fi
>
> Maybe a dumb question, but ..
>
> In both cases, don't we need to test the readability of those files with 
> ${DESTDIR} prepended, rather than the originals, before sourcing them?  Or 
> can we here safely assume that they will exist? Or doesn't it matter?

Yes, you are right, but it doesn't matter because as Mateusz Guzik 
points out, it's not safe to source those files from a jail.

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>
>wishmaster wrote:
>>=20
>> =20
>>  --- Original message ---
>>  From: "Fbsd8" <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>
>>  Date: 11 July 2014, 16:49:08
>>  =20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> Marcin Michta wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I want to ask what are advantages and disadvantages using VNET?
>>>>
>>>> I know that it allows each jail to have a private networking stack, =

>>>> but what else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Marthin
>>>>
>>> Its experimental, it has many bugs posted in PR system, loses memory =

>>> every time a vnet jail is stopped, firewalls in vnet jail don't =
work,=20
>>> other that these show stoppers, use at your own risk.
>>=20
>> Hey, man. Stop panic!
>>=20
>> Firewall works very well. Memory leak on shutdown it is not very big =
problem.
>> Main advantage for me is: I am able to filtering and prioritization =
traffic coming thought base system. My vnete'ed jails is like a regular =
LAN clients and they share INET pipe with appropriate weight. I use =
ipfw.
>>=20
>
>
>Oh ya, host panic on boot is another common happing with vimage and =
firewall ipf and pf trying to run inside of a vnet jail and on the host =
at the same time.
>
>Many people DO consider any kind of memory leak in kernel software such =
as vimage is a really big show stopper for not using it in a production =
system.
>
>If you read a little bit closer the previous post you will see it's =
talking about firewall running inside of a vnet/vimage jail. It doesn't
> say anything about running a host firewall directing traffic to a ip =
number assigned to a vnet jail.
>
>Here is a list of some of the vnet outstanding PR's
>
>143808, 147950, 148155, 152148, 160496, 160541, 161094, 164763, 165252, =
176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092, 188010, 191468
>
>vnet/vimage is experimental and should never be used in a production =
system and be exposed to the public network. It is not a secure software =
configuration. Sure you can disregard all warnings and common sense and =
risk >your host system, thats your choice.

I didn't know about these problems
I'll check these PR
Thanks for help for you all :)

Regards
Marthin


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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Marcin Michta <marcin.michta@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> >wishmaster wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>  --- Original message ---
> >>  From: "Fbsd8" <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>
> >>  Date: 11 July 2014, 16:49:08
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Marcin Michta wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to ask what are advantages and disadvantages using VNET?
> >>>>
> >>>> I know that it allows each jail to have a private networking stack,
> >>>> but what else?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> Marthin
> >>>>
> >>> Its experimental, it has many bugs posted in PR system, loses memory
> >>> every time a vnet jail is stopped, firewalls in vnet jail don't work,
> >>> other that these show stoppers, use at your own risk.
> >>
> >> Hey, man. Stop panic!
> >>
> >> Firewall works very well. Memory leak on shutdown it is not very big
> problem.
> >> Main advantage for me is: I am able to filtering and prioritization
> traffic coming thought base system. My vnete'ed jails is like a regular LAN
> clients and they share INET pipe with appropriate weight. I use ipfw.
> >>
> >
> >
> >Oh ya, host panic on boot is another common happing with vimage and
> firewall ipf and pf trying to run inside of a vnet jail and on the host at
> the same time.
> >
> >Many people DO consider any kind of memory leak in kernel software such
> as vimage is a really big show stopper for not using it in a production
> system.
> >
> >If you read a little bit closer the previous post you will see it's
> talking about firewall running inside of a vnet/vimage jail. It doesn't
> > say anything about running a host firewall directing traffic to a ip
> number assigned to a vnet jail.
> >
> >Here is a list of some of the vnet outstanding PR's
> >
> >143808, 147950, 148155, 152148, 160496, 160541, 161094, 164763, 165252,
> 176112, 176929, 178480, 178482, 179264, 182350, 185092, 188010, 191468
> >
> >vnet/vimage is experimental and should never be used in a production
> system and be exposed to the public network. It is not a secure software
> configuration. Sure you can disregard all warnings and common sense and
> risk >your host system, thats your choice.
>
> I didn't know about these problems
> I'll check these PR
> Thanks for help for you all :)
>
> Regards
> Marthin
>
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The majority of those PR's were raised for 8.x and 9.x and on top of that
not even for production releases but RC, BETA and PRERELEASE. Some of those
were resolved already and some are completely irrelevant.

The vast majority refers to PF inside a jail, which is a known issue anyway
(just avoid it). You can run IPFW inside a jail however and PF on the host
itself all at the same time given that you use 10-RELEASE (preferably
amd64).

If you want to test drive VNET here are a few hints to avoid problems:

1. Don't try to enable PF inside the jail
2. Only add a wired and epair interfaces into a bridge - avoid wireless
(might trigger a crash)
3. Don't use ALTQ - as far as I know ALTQ is not supported with VNET anyway
yet
4. Use the GENERIC kernel configuration and just add options "VIMAGE"

And just for amusement, two of those completely irrelevant PR's, not even
VNET related listed previously:
188010 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=188010 (ACPI and
BTW: Status: Issue Resolved FIXED)
176929 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176929
(gnome-speech and Issue Resolved FIXED)

Not going to dissect the other remaining PR's - as I mentioned above mostly
outdated except the ones related to PF inside a jail and a memory leak
which is not a showstopper and can be avoided.

Also on another note, I constantly bump into alarmist and misinformation
emails related to VNET by a certain individual.
Telling folks off and actively deterring them from even trying to test
drive VNET jails.

This is not doing any favor to the community - VNET is one of the exciting
features (like Crossbow in Illumos) people want to see mature.
Actively deterring these efforts is definitely not going to help and has a
very negative impact!

As for the advantages, a VNET enabled jail will provide much better
isolation (own network stack) and control than a shared IP based jail setup
where the local traffic might be exposed across jails. Also VNET allows per
jail IPFW firewall rules independent from the host's IPFW. With VNET you
can build and simulate complex network setups I believe this was one of the
main drives to create VIMAGE/VNET.

Peter

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Subject: [Bug 191279] [qjail] jail allow.sysvipc & devfs.ruleset - doesn't
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https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=191279

dreamcat4@gmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|Needs Triage                |Issue Resolved
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED
            Summary|[jail] jail allow.sysvipc - |[qjail] jail allow.sysvipc
                   |doesn't work until jail is  |& devfs.ruleset - doesn't
                   |started TWICE after reboot  |work from rc.d script

--- Comment #14 from dreamcat4@gmail.com ---
Joe has fixed in qjail 3.5. It's been committed.

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