From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 09:06:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FDDECC for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 200079B2 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B87254013F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:06:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id HVMakwdvxuD8 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:05:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4E82540144 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:05:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tngtech.com Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xZWs9D2Uy81S for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:05:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DB8254013F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:05:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:05:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Wendler To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> In-Reply-To: <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> References: <1798925878.2574430.1412152944042.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <687290417.2576023.1412153505489.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.7_GA_6021 (ZimbraWebClient - GC37 (Mac)/8.0.7_GA_6021) Thread-Topic: Thinkpad T440p and T540p Thread-Index: D58esls1+BFW3bFlxS53OKK/HNJG6Q== X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 09:06:12 -0000 Hi, thx for the reply. Unfortunately I had to decide on the notebook shortly af= ter writing my initial mail. It looks like I don't have an Optimus or Haswe= l Intel Grafics Card. But I have a 7260 Wireless card ... dang. I well see what I can do. Thank You. Cheers, Stefan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandr Krivulya" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:33:09 AM Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p As far as I know modern Thinkpads have Intel Wireless 7260 NIC, which is also unsupported by FreeBSD. 02.10.2014 03:18, Lundberg, Johannes =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > Just make sure it doesn't have Optimus graphics or Intel Haswell graphics= . > My understand is that in the newer machines you can NOT choose discrete > graphic card in BIOS, you can only choose between switchable or integrate= d > and Haswell graphics is not supported. > > According to discussion forums I seem to be correct but I am not 100% sur= e. > > No Optimus support and no support for newer Intel graphic chips is one of > the reason I have to switch to Linux until we have working graphics on > FreeBSD :( > > > -- > Johannes Lundberg > BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Stefan Wendler > wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> unfortunately my BSD workhorse (the T530) died in a horrible case of the >> gravities and I need a new one really quick. I was thinking about a full= y >> fledged T440p or a T540p with Nvidia and so on. I know the current Think= pad >> series had problems when they first came out. >> >> Does anybody have any experience with either of these notebooks? If and >> how they work with FreeBSD 10.x? >> >> Cheers, >> Stefan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " >> _______________________________________________ freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 09:10:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20190198 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE08B9F6 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id x19so2835846ier.25 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 02:10:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=FIuu5Cz/piso0ifSpo0tOci0qouBzba16zeDCuBI5lI=; b=jhlaqHvcvJ20lJz8OJAmVCfXTm2g3DzdZBoOLVRedNaZFKYoU5HLwr2Yy+Ja/LC/eB ZbCDgllTQHBAMZYrwdzltZnSK503DoddSP9mfUTtQ1chAdtutmgaw3SdXoVovhXppt8q 3C3goVMjR4P1Daf4ldG1PeglHhx+kk4TpI04QmIo9jITtPqvUAK72SERQuP+dk/HFA7s Q2snjPOys6iSzDtdv8FqYT/6BYZRPFcxUVJofpd93cgdsS1DZ5R2xIJ/2a0WrDg+Yiw8 iQdvmXkSJ5ZiX6xNlfUpqj7mY1b1Wlzl5sF5Z5jRLBhtlkhXpj9imt7PCrBCrsjLbXM+ XD2w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQljRKE7e8deTg9MSXAhsHeeXMxzpq9FOjDcQNTqRbyGZWib1PBF46eygTNKgqxV55ZL9KLG5EHOE5tao04hiAoy7mM4qdzufM1cCJX5zVxUTPmUDY7YlBd11ha23K1KROMjYsQO X-Received: by 10.43.155.13 with SMTP id lg13mr31395726icc.15.1412586616345; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 02:10:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.156.83 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 02:10:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> References: <1798925878.2574430.1412152944042.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <687290417.2576023.1412153505489.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> From: "Lundberg, Johannes" Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:10:01 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p To: Stefan Wendler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 09:10:23 -0000 Hi The graphics part sounds good. So you mean you got a new (2014) Thinkpad where you can choose between discrete and integrated graphics or does it only have discrete graphics? Please tell me the model number and how well the graphics works for you :) -- Johannes Lundberg BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Stefan Wendler wrote: > Hi, > > thx for the reply. Unfortunately I had to decide on the notebook shortly > after writing my initial mail. It looks like I don't have an Optimus or > Haswel Intel Grafics Card. But I have a 7260 Wireless card ... dang. > I well see what I can do. Thank You. > > Cheers, > Stefan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alexandr Krivulya" > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:33:09 AM > Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p > > As far as I know modern Thinkpads have Intel Wireless 7260 NIC, which is > also unsupported by FreeBSD. > > 02.10.2014 03:18, Lundberg, Johannes =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > Just make sure it doesn't have Optimus graphics or Intel Haswell > graphics. > > My understand is that in the newer machines you can NOT choose discrete > > graphic card in BIOS, you can only choose between switchable or > integrated > > and Haswell graphics is not supported. > > > > According to discussion forums I seem to be correct but I am not 100% > sure. > > > > No Optimus support and no support for newer Intel graphic chips is one = of > > the reason I have to switch to Linux until we have working graphics on > > FreeBSD :( > > > > > > -- > > Johannes Lundberg > > BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Stefan Wendler < > stefan.wendler@tngtech.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> unfortunately my BSD workhorse (the T530) died in a horrible case of t= he > >> gravities and I need a new one really quick. I was thinking about a > fully > >> fledged T440p or a T540p with Nvidia and so on. I know the current > Thinkpad > >> series had problems when they first came out. > >> > >> Does anybody have any experience with either of these notebooks? 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From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 09:20:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9C6C568 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6936CAD9 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF182540124 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id A9xkCk6thH0N for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFF82540144 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:20:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tngtech.com Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Uv21eFan9tlE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3F3254013F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 11:20:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Wendler To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <154160930.3053054.1412587222296.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1798925878.2574430.1412152944042.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <687290417.2576023.1412153505489.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.7_GA_6021 (ZimbraWebClient - GC37 (Mac)/8.0.7_GA_6021) Thread-Topic: Thinkpad T440p and T540p Thread-Index: Ur/+5Eyjamu0g0cB/lw7tV9+AKcC3w== X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 09:20:38 -0000 I chose the Nvidia GeForce and I hope it works. At least they did not menti= on anything about Optimus. For the wireless I still have the old Ultimate-N= 6300 wireless adapter from my broken T530 and attempt to put it in the T54= 0. I hope it fits. At least until the T530 I was able to change parts. Oh I= hope for the best. Otherwise I might have to switch to Gentoo for a while. Which I wouldn't li= ke that much. Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johannes Lundberg" To: "Stefan Wendler" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 11:10:01 AM Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p Hi The graphics part sounds good. So you mean you got a new (2014) Thinkpad where you can choose between discrete and integrated graphics or does it only have discrete graphics? Please tell me the model number and how well the graphics works for you :) -- Johannes Lundberg BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Stefan Wendler wrote: > Hi, > > thx for the reply. Unfortunately I had to decide on the notebook shortly > after writing my initial mail. It looks like I don't have an Optimus or > Haswel Intel Grafics Card. But I have a 7260 Wireless card ... dang. > I well see what I can do. Thank You. > > Cheers, > Stefan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alexandr Krivulya" > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:33:09 AM > Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p > > As far as I know modern Thinkpads have Intel Wireless 7260 NIC, which is > also unsupported by FreeBSD. > > 02.10.2014 03:18, Lundberg, Johannes =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > Just make sure it doesn't have Optimus graphics or Intel Haswell > graphics. > > My understand is that in the newer machines you can NOT choose discrete > > graphic card in BIOS, you can only choose between switchable or > integrated > > and Haswell graphics is not supported. > > > > According to discussion forums I seem to be correct but I am not 100% > sure. > > > > No Optimus support and no support for newer Intel graphic chips is one = of > > the reason I have to switch to Linux until we have working graphics on > > FreeBSD :( > > > > > > -- > > Johannes Lundberg > > BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Stefan Wendler < > stefan.wendler@tngtech.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> unfortunately my BSD workhorse (the T530) died in a horrible case of t= he > >> gravities and I need a new one really quick. I was thinking about a > fully > >> fledged T440p or a T540p with Nvidia and so on. I know the current > Thinkpad > >> series had problems when they first came out. > >> > >> Does anybody have any experience with either of these notebooks? If an= d > >> how they work with FreeBSD 10.x? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Stefan > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- =E7=A7=98=E5=AF=86=E4=BF=9D=E6=8C=81=E3=81=AB=E3=81=A4=E3=81=84=E3=81=A6=EF= =BC=9A=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E9=9B=BB=E5=AD=90=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81= =AF=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E3=81=AB=E9=80=81=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=97= =E3=81=9F=E3=82=82=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=81=82=E3=82=8A=E3=80=81=E7=A7=98=E5= =8C=BF=E7=89=B9=E6=A8=A9=E3=81=AE=E5=AF=BE=E8=B1=A1=E3=81=A8=E3=81=AA=E3=82= =8B=E6=83=85=E5=A0=B1=E3=82=92=E5=90=AB=E3=82=93=E3=81=A7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE= =E3=81=99=E3=80=82 =E3=82=82=E3=81=97=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E4=BB=A5=E5=A4=96=E3= =81=AE=E6=96=B9=E3=81=8C=E5=8F=97=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E5=A0= =B4=E5=90=88=E3=80=81=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AE= =E7=A0=B4=E6=A3=84=E3=80=81=E3=81=8A=E3=82=88=E3=81=B3=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3= =83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AB=E9=96=A2=E3=81=99=E3=82=8B=E4=B8=80=E5=88= =87=E3=81=AE=E9=96=8B=E7=A4=BA=E3=80=81 =E8=A4=87=E5=86=99=E3=80=81=E9=85=8D=E5=B8=83=E3=80=81=E3=81=9D=E3=81=AE=E4= =BB=96=E3=81=AE=E5=88=A9=E7=94=A8=E3=80=81=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9F=E3=81=AF=E8=A8= =98=E8=BC=89=E5=86=85=E5=AE=B9=E3=81=AB=E5=9F=BA=E3=81=A5=E3=81=8F=E3=81=84= =E3=81=8B=E3=81=AA=E3=82=8B=E8=A1=8C=E5=8B=95=E3=82=82=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3= =81=AA=E3=81=84=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=8A=E9=A1=98=E3=81=84=E7=94=B3=E3=81= =97=E4=B8=8A=E3=81=92=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and intended solely for the addressee. 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From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 20:17:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA83C8CE for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 614DC27A for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id s18so5190800lam.9 for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:17:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LjxZR70/PG+jhKRQ20Uk+JqoNX+XZVdctTKUqf2H4sI=; b=jeL212JwRwQpqRwhgCW1dagZZ6hF2tbCFD1tBTHIow4J8Yu5nXNkf9OHV0E7xd/PyS /NwY34L6/LrpikFt5bgAmXoum+KDBjUdTUG6PauzoJZpqnjDp1e/422pr5f0aaTMTu3a B7d3RKKEySliusKNvU9p8R7BIxtXQHoF4bVHS2T417GS/KdrB/+RLOKpMBb4Ux+ngsOM rVxu5P6kIbUJeqdtCi1qJXenVFaZ20+FQ6wLbn8C+8up5RtuGVoI3dalh4aBCWrd4fqM xEHgAi3QFWYZp+ZWhMRDO88X/r6b6M32+FmpbWNVMcy2p4qENP1KAJ5+7fmbHj+1JgI0 B4HA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.137.232 with SMTP id ql8mr5201180lbb.71.1412626639307; Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.202.70 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:17:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <154160930.3053054.1412587222296.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> References: <1798925878.2574430.1412152944042.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <687290417.2576023.1412153505489.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <154160930.3053054.1412587222296.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:17:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p From: isdtor To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 20:17:21 -0000 There's nothing wrong with Gentoo ;-) In fact, it works better on my T530 than FreeBSD. And I don't think my next laptop after that will be a Lenovo, their current line products are badly designed and make it particularily hard to run non-Windows systems since so many functions that were buttons or LEDs are now in software. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 7 07:36:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59AD6D8E for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 07:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F50238F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 07:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101502540095; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:36:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id I1Zvdlyuydjc; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:36:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABABB25400A2; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:36:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tngtech.com Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bI29t24pzbv0; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:36:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868382540095; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:36:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:36:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Wendler To: isdtor Message-ID: <1573218930.3155123.1412667396790.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1798925878.2574430.1412152944042.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <687290417.2576023.1412153505489.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <154160930.3053054.1412587222296.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.7_GA_6021 (ZimbraWebClient - GC37 (Mac)/8.0.7_GA_6021) Thread-Topic: Thinkpad T440p and T540p Thread-Index: LNqgVtqI28Xu1G68WdKorKQ23QvoDQ== Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 07:36:52 -0000 I adopted and loved gentoo from the very beginning. And it still would be my goto distro, if I would have to switch. But Linux in general feels very messy to me (This is not a rant, just my personal feeling). On my T530 FreeBSD was running stellar. UMTS, WLAN, sound, docking, multiple monitors, eve online in wine, you name it. Everything worked. And out of the box, too. So I kind of liked my T530 very much and wanted to keep it some more years :( The only thing I really dislike about the T540 is the trackpad. It feels really strange. But I didn't like the T530 mouse either so there is no change ;) But I have no problem with the current keyboard etc like many others do. Most of the time it is docked and I use my Kinesis Advantage and an external mouse anyway ;) I heard in the latest BSDNow Podcast, that they are pushing Haswell stuff with FreeBSD 10.1. So I might go to a 10.1(-rc) right away when the notebook arrives. Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: "isdtor" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:17:19 PM Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p There's nothing wrong with Gentoo ;-) In fact, it works better on my T530 than FreeBSD. And I don't think my next laptop after that will be a Lenovo, their current line products are badly designed and make it particularily hard to run non-Windows systems since so many functions that were buttons or LEDs are now in software. _______________________________________________ freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 7 17:18:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC73184A for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 17:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F201BF for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 17:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id fb4so8599033wid.6 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C2/ZXGfO/skNypGyUxdDw2kYVIwFnpPXLdp3TqX73ck=; b=ahPvPhi4AmSfm3HsfPIM6ZNxUHoyrVocGOkclyfTHOPb30+/0DtY1/DW1+kS31CgLu HfjKpGXZh/I0+ftFQs7CXFXmTc4r4F1aGRh6O4310hvl+cPXF+ejsEXtxXuw4ewRjqDL bTWZDmnQ1Bh0jLCh/+yzxpADYc7xbyhE4GW2SRBZZOIQ8eqSMKQHm+sSL1VYDeO4OKoC 5H5KT63dMuGtPw9C9QX2LAqWizwBj8+rM1F14yHSWhMycjhN3Qy7ypNcauAizP4vZL1U AJTxU8jSZYa1vA8yYXF+5ZEfYrc/gUX50miBi0tCzb/YvtTXihRKsGuMvtAAXcSjbJY8 uXNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.202.138 with SMTP id ki10mr6432062wjc.68.1412702303571; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.136 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1573218930.3155123.1412667396790.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> References: <1798925878.2574430.1412152944042.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <687290417.2576023.1412153505489.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <154160930.3053054.1412587222296.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <1573218930.3155123.1412667396790.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:18:23 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: m1l9BuA4YvyOle4CfsXL95mM6Hc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p From: Adrian Chadd To: Stefan Wendler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: isdtor , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:18:26 -0000 Haswell won't be in freebsd-10.1. The moment it's done and dusted, you'll know. (Same as the 7260 driver.) -a On 7 October 2014 00:36, Stefan Wendler wrote: > I adopted and loved gentoo from the very beginning. And it still would be= my goto distro, if I would have to switch. But Linux in general feels very= messy to me (This is not a rant, just my personal feeling). > On my T530 FreeBSD was running stellar. UMTS, WLAN, sound, docking, multi= ple monitors, eve online in wine, you name it. Everything worked. And out o= f the box, too. So I kind of liked my T530 very much and wanted to keep it = some more years :( > The only thing I really dislike about the T540 is the trackpad. It feels = really strange. But I didn't like the T530 mouse either so there is no chan= ge ;) But I have no problem with the current keyboard etc like many others = do. Most of the time it is docked and I use my Kinesis Advantage and an ext= ernal mouse anyway ;) > > I heard in the latest BSDNow Podcast, that they are pushing Haswell stuff= with FreeBSD 10.1. So I might go to a 10.1(-rc) right away when the notebo= ok arrives. > > Cheers > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "isdtor" > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:17:19 PM > Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p > > There's nothing wrong with Gentoo ;-) In fact, it works better on my > T530 than FreeBSD. And I don't think my next laptop after that will be > a Lenovo, their current line products are badly designed and make it > particularily hard to run non-Windows systems since so many functions > that were buttons or LEDs are now in software. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 9 15:55:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95C0363E; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 268031A2; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09C02540195; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id SeUoHXnPadA9; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:55:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3482540196; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:55:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tngtech.com Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.tngtech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Wx_kRxid4uqI; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:55:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.tngtech.com (zimbra.tngtech.com [212.204.93.107]) by zimbra.tngtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF222540195; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:55:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:55:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Wendler To: Adrian Chadd Message-ID: <66612234.3557373.1412870114558.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1798925878.2574430.1412152944042.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <542CF1A5.5040708@shurik.kiev.ua> <844967008.3051285.1412586357997.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <154160930.3053054.1412587222296.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> <1573218930.3155123.1412667396790.JavaMail.zimbra@tngtech.com> Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.7_GA_6021 (ZimbraWebClient - GC38 (Mac)/8.0.7_GA_6021) Thread-Topic: Thinkpad T440p and T540p Thread-Index: 9bn6QMidQTVNyDmw2oQnDh7WdCyVsQ== Cc: isdtor , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 15:55:29 -0000 Today the notebook arrived. Unfortunately the onboard ports for the expansion cards have a different layout. That means that I cannot replace the wifi card with my old one. Therefore I'm currently switching to Gentoo in the hope that it won't take too long until the 7260 drivers are ported over to FreeBSD. Kind of sad greeting, Stefan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Chadd" To: "Stefan Wendler" Cc: "isdtor" , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:18:23 PM Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p Haswell won't be in freebsd-10.1. The moment it's done and dusted, you'll know. (Same as the 7260 driver.) -a On 7 October 2014 00:36, Stefan Wendler wrote: > I adopted and loved gentoo from the very beginning. And it still would be my goto distro, if I would have to switch. But Linux in general feels very messy to me (This is not a rant, just my personal feeling). > On my T530 FreeBSD was running stellar. UMTS, WLAN, sound, docking, multiple monitors, eve online in wine, you name it. Everything worked. And out of the box, too. So I kind of liked my T530 very much and wanted to keep it some more years :( > The only thing I really dislike about the T540 is the trackpad. It feels really strange. But I didn't like the T530 mouse either so there is no change ;) But I have no problem with the current keyboard etc like many others do. Most of the time it is docked and I use my Kinesis Advantage and an external mouse anyway ;) > > I heard in the latest BSDNow Podcast, that they are pushing Haswell stuff with FreeBSD 10.1. So I might go to a 10.1(-rc) right away when the notebook arrives. > > Cheers > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "isdtor" > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:17:19 PM > Subject: Re: Thinkpad T440p and T540p > > There's nothing wrong with Gentoo ;-) In fact, it works better on my > T530 than FreeBSD. And I don't think my next laptop after that will be > a Lenovo, their current line products are badly designed and make it > particularily hard to run non-Windows systems since so many functions > that were buttons or LEDs are now in software. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"