From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 12 09:15:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C79D519 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from udns.ultimateDNS.NET (ultimatedns.net [209.180.214.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C769A11E8 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from udns.ultimateDNS.NET (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimateDNS.NET (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0C9FZra007608 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 01:15:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by udns.ultimateDNS.NET (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id s0C9FTJm007604; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 01:15:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net ([209.180.214.225]) (UDNSMS authenticated user chrish) by ultimatedns.net with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 01:15:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20140111.180057.78714603.sthaug@nethelp.no> References: <1063008459.20140111160525@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20140111164047.GA97150@edge.bac.lab> <20140111.180057.78714603.sthaug@nethelp.no> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 01:15:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Merge ping+ping6 and traceroue+traceroute6 to single utilities? From: "Chris H" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org User-Agent: UDNSMS/2.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:15:49 -0000 >> >>From an operator's point of view: unlike ordinary network applications like >> remote login tools, we are usually aware of address family when using network >> management tools. We do not just want to know the reachability to the host, >> but want to know the reachability to the host via a particular network protocol >> such as IPv6. Thus, even if we had a unified ping(8) command for both IPv4 and >> IPv6, we would usually type a -6 or -4 option (or something like those) to >> specify the particular address family. This essentially means that we have two >> different commands. > > Disagree. As I showed in my previous message, *only* in the case of a > name with both A and AAAA records is this necessary. > > I use unified ping and traceroute on JunOS daily. It's a blessing not > to have to specify the address family. Disagree. In the current, on FreeBSD, in either case, it's less keystrokes. How is ping -6 || ping -4 better? What's the point? How will modifying all the some thousands of scripts everyone currently uses based on the current commands, make it better? Really. This is a silly argument. Adding switches makes no sense. --Chris > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >