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>Using \xff as the record separator makes sense for binary files. Any idea
>why there is such a condition in the sort program?

Probably because its authors implemented the POSIX spec for the sort utility,
which sorts text files.

If you want to sort binary stuff using the standard sort program, turn it into text,
sort it, and turn it back.  Or write your own specialized binary sort.

R's,
John



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*** re-including the list, hope that's okay ***

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:25:25 -0800, M V wrote:
> well thanks for clearing things up for me i did not know i was
> downloading a server ISO

You are wrong. FreeBSD is not a "server OS" with the meaning
that it is for _server only_. As I said, it's a multi-purpose
OS, and this is reflected by how the installation media works.
They can be used to install on a server, but the same (!) media,
for example the CD #1, will install a graphical workstation.
For example, the laptops and PCs I'm running at home have
been installed using that particular CD #1. By looking at
my desktop (on screen) the initial text mode operations to
install the OS can't be seen anymore. :-)



> what is confusing to me is that it asked if i
> wanted to run from live cd i assumed it would boot into graphics ??

No, the live system CD does not include X. It's primarily
intended for performing system repair, recovery preparation
or other kind of maintenance operations.

But there are FreeBSD-derived systems that do. A famous example
is FreeSBIE, but I think it isn't being maintained actively
anymore. It is a live CD that boots into a GUI desktop environ-
ment.

http://www.freesbie.org/

The latest version is based on FreeBSD 6, which isn't actively
supported anymore. Still it will boot fine on your Dell laptop.
Even FreeSBIE 1.1 (using FreeBSD 5) will. I have tried it. :-)



> any
> way i am downloading the pcbsd now i hope that i will be able to create
> a dial up connection using this distro

That should work without problems. I've been using dial-up
Internet via PPP many years ago.



> for the life of me i have never
> been able to get clear commands on how to enable the modem and configure
> connection i have gotten better with linux commands but for some reason
> i can never get clear command info on how to create a dial up connection

You should have a look at the ppp utility. PC-BSD includes
a "dialing manager" that lets you control the modem and
manage connections.

Also see the relevant chapter in The FreeBSD Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip.html

You can choose to automatically have the system dial, or
dial manually if you prefer to have more control over your
connection time and manner.

PPPoE is also supported and works very nicely. Connections
can be started right with the system startup. I've also been
using that way to get online some years ago.




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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Many systems have removed nslookup from the base system so FreeBSD
removing it is nothing new. At first, I was pretty annoyed but it
makes sense that bind should not be part of the base system unless
it's purpose is to serve as a DNS server. For all other users,
installing bind-utils is fine.

On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Matthew Pherigo <hybrid120@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> To my understanding, almost half of all the security vulnerabilities in t=
he entire lifetime of the FreeBSD project have been from BIND. Personally, =
I'd say that's "pretty spectacular."
>
> --Matt
>
>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Frank Leonhardt <frank2@fjl.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that
>>>> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to
>>>> go.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was
>>>> made?
>>> If you read:
>>>
>>>    http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html
>>>
>>> Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice:
>>>
>>>    "BIND has been removed from the base system.
>>>     unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has
>>>     been imported to support local DNS resolution
>>>     functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a
>>>     replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND
>>>     is still available in the Ports Collection. With
>>>     this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part
>>>     of the base system. Users should instead use
>>>     host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and
>>>     dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools
>>>     port. [r255949]"
>>>
>>> So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy.
>>>
>>> As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait
>>> accompli.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>> As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I =
said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and th=
at's still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND. I agr=
ee there's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind what appear=
s an arbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply an oversight or=
 is there a thought-out reason for it that one can take issue with?
>>
>> IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed bef=
ore that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The reason f=
or dropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular.
>>
>> FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate.
>>
>> Regards, Frank.
>>
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Just noticed SuPHP is dead. Has any one found any thing non-hackish
to get suexec like functions with PHP now? The closest I've come is a
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Does anyone have any ideas on why startx would cause Xorg to consume
100% cpu and stuck in RUN state. kill -9 does nothing to it and forced
to reboot to kill it.

If I ssh localhost and startx, it works normally.

I'm running FreeBSD 10.0 and it's a Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 with
USE_XORG_NEW undefined.

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Hi,

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:41:54 -0800
"Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas on why startx would cause Xorg to consume
> 100% cpu and stuck in RUN state. kill -9 does nothing to it and forced
> to reboot to kill it.
> 
> If I ssh localhost and startx, it works normally.
> 
> I'm running FreeBSD 10.0 and it's a Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 with
> USE_XORG_NEW undefined.
> 
try to add WITH_GALLIUM and compile X again.

X will work via ssh as it does not have anything to display on that
machine then. It is the graphic card driver which is your problem.

Erich
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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Erich Dollansky
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> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:41:54 -0800
> "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on why startx would cause Xorg to consume
>> 100% cpu and stuck in RUN state. kill -9 does nothing to it and forced
>> to reboot to kill it.
>>
>> If I ssh localhost and startx, it works normally.
>>
>> I'm running FreeBSD 10.0 and it's a Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 with
>> USE_XORG_NEW undefined.
>>
> try to add WITH_GALLIUM and compile X again.
>
> X will work via ssh as it does not have anything to display on that
> machine then. It is the graphic card driver which is your problem.
>
> Erich

grep -ir "WITH_GALLIUM" /usr/ports/x11*

didn't show anything, what does that do? The ati driver worked fine in
FreeBSD 9.2. This card doesn't support KMS as it's an older laptop
video card.

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Hi,

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:17:42 -0800
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> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Erich Dollansky
> <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:41:54 -0800
> > "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have any ideas on why startx would cause Xorg to
> >> consume 100% cpu and stuck in RUN state. kill -9 does nothing to
> >> it and forced to reboot to kill it.
> >>
> >> If I ssh localhost and startx, it works normally.
> >>
> >> I'm running FreeBSD 10.0 and it's a Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 with
> >> USE_XORG_NEW undefined.
> >>
> > try to add WITH_GALLIUM and compile X again.
> >
> > X will work via ssh as it does not have anything to display on that
> > machine then. It is the graphic card driver which is your problem.
> >
> > Erich
> 
> grep -ir "WITH_GALLIUM" /usr/ports/x11*
> 
> didn't show anything, what does that do? The ati driver worked fine in
> FreeBSD 9.2. This card doesn't support KMS as it's an older laptop
> video card.

if KMS is not supported, then take the VESA driver and see what happens.

Erich

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> There must be a discussion about how the decision was taken somewhere, 
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On 25/01/2014 20:52, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
> On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that
>>> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to
>>> go.
>>>
>>> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was
>>> made?
>> If you read:
>>
>>     http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html
>>
>> Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice:
>>
>>     "BIND has been removed from the base system.
>>      unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has
>>      been imported to support local DNS resolution
>>      functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a
>>      replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND
>>      is still available in the Ports Collection. With
>>      this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part
>>      of the base system. Users should instead use
>>      host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and
>>      dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools
>>      port. [r255949]"
>>
>> So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy.
>>
>> As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait
>> accompli.
>>
>> Mark.
> As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I
> said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and
> that's still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND.
> I agree there's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind
> what appears an arbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply
> an oversight or is there a thought-out reason for it that one can take
> issue with?
> 
> IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed
> before that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The
> reason for dropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular.
> 
> FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate.
> 
> Regards, Frank.
> 

Please don't piss off, there was thousands of reasons for removing BIND
from base. It generates at least 5 security advisories by year. FreeBSD
has a great feature called "ports" / "packages". Of course it's always
great to have a fully functional system just after an installation. But
can you seriously use a FreeBSD fresh install? I think you need to
install a bunch of packages before :-).

So just a pkg install bind-tools is not so hard, isn't it?

Regards,

David.


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I'm trying to debug a duplex printing issue with my printer.
I've got cups installed.
The following file, when printed with 
  lpr filename.ps
goes through the duplexing motions, but never prints anything.
Not being much of a ps geek... hints?

%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%cupsJobTicket: media=Letter sides=two-sided-long-edge
%%BoundingBox: 36 36 576 756
%%Pages: 2
%%LanguageLevel: 2
% This file has two pages, with the second supposed to be printed back to back in proper orientation;
% i.e. not upside down.
%%Requirements: duplex
%%DocumentNeededResources: font Times-Roman
%%EndComments

%%BeginDefaults
%%PageOrientation: Portrait
1.0 setgray
/Times-Roman findfont
60 scalefont
setfont
%%EndDefaults

%%BeginSetup
%%BeginFeature: *Duplex DuplexNoTumble
<< /Duplex true /Tumble false >> setpagedevice
%%EndFeature
%%EndSetup

%%Page: (Front Page (1)) 1
% Page 1 text
1.0 setgray
/Times-Roman findfont
60 scalefont
setfont
newpath
100 200 moveto
(This is page (1).)

%%Page: (Back Page (2)) 2
% Page 2 text
/Times-Roman findfont
1.0 setgray
60 scalefont
setfont
newpath
100 200 moveto
(This is page (2).)

showpage

%%EOF
%


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I was running the last BETA release of FreeBSD until this morning. Having
nothing better to do, I used "FreeBSD-update" to install the latest
version. Everything appeared to go fine. However, I now find that the mouse
will no longer work in KDE. This is a portion of the Xorg.0.log file:

(II) config/hal: Adding input device Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
 compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.9.0
 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/ums0"
(==) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Protocol: "Auto"
(**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/ums0"
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/ums0
 Device busy.
(EE) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: cannot open input device
(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
(EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0"
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)

This is what it looked like when things were working:

(II) config/hal: Adding input device Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
 compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.9.0
 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
(==) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Protocol: "Auto"
(**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
(==) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Buttons: 5
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver
v7.0" (type: MOUSE)
(**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme
1
(**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: (accel) acceleration profile 0
(II) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model
is 0
(II) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse

Absolutely nothing else was updated except for FreeBSD itself. I have tried
rebooting twice with negative results. I can see the mouse pointer in KDE,
but I cannot move it. However, in the CLI environment, the mouse works
normally. I don't even know where to look to correct this problem.

-- 
Jerry

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, Gary Aitken wrote:

> I'm trying to debug a duplex printing issue with my printer.
> I've got cups installed.

Gah.  That might introduce other problems, I don't know.

> 1.0 setgray

1.0 is white, 0 is black.

> /Times-Roman findfont
> 60 scalefont
> setfont
> newpath
> 100 200 moveto
> (This is page (1).)

The paren operator defines a string.  Also, escaping parens inside the 
string with a backslash is a good idea. But after defining a string, it 
just sits on the stack unless you draw it to the page with show:

   (This is page \(1\).) show

After drawing everything on a page, the showpage operator prints the 
page, and then you can begin on the second page, which should also be 
followed by a showpage.

ps2pdf from ghostscript is handy for debugging without burning through 
paper.

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On 26/01/2014 18:22, David Demelier wrote:
> On 25/01/2014 20:52, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
>> On 25/01/2014 19:37, Mark Tinka wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 25, 2014 09:13:08 PM Frank Leonhardt
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that
>>>> removing nslookup from the base system was the way to
>>>> go.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was
>>>> made?
>>> If you read:
>>>
>>>      http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html
>>>
>>> Under the "2.3. Userland Changes" section, you will notice:
>>>
>>>      "BIND has been removed from the base system.
>>>       unbound(8), which is maintained by NLnet Labs, has
>>>       been imported to support local DNS resolution
>>>       functionality with DNSSEC. Note that it is not a
>>>       replacement of BIND and the latest versions of BIND
>>>       is still available in the Ports Collection. With
>>>       this change, nslookup and dig are no longer a part
>>>       of the base system. Users should instead use
>>>       host(1) and drill(1) Alternatively, nslookup and
>>>       dig can be obtained by installing dns/bind-tools
>>>       port. [r255949]"
>>>
>>> So install /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools and you're a happy guy.
>>>
>>> As to the philosophy of it all, no point arguing. Fait
>>> accompli.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>> As you and Waitman both pointed out, nslookup IS part of BIND, yet as I
>> said in the diatribe following the question in my post, so is "host" and
>> that's still there. Also Windoze has nslookup but doesn't include BIND.
>> I agree there's no point arguing unless you know the rational behind
>> what appears an arbitrary decision; hence my question. Was this simply
>> an oversight or is there a thought-out reason for it that one can take
>> issue with?
>>
>> IIRC, nslookup was present in 4.3BSD, and I'm pretty sure it existed
>> before that. (That's BSD, not FreeBSD). Its relied on in scripts. The
>> reason for dropping it from the base system must be pretty spectacular.
>>
>> FreeBSD 10.0 might be better known as FreeBSD Vista, at this rate.
>>
>> Regards, Frank.
>>
> Please don't piss off, there was thousands of reasons for removing BIND
> from base. It generates at least 5 security advisories by year. FreeBSD
> has a great feature called "ports" / "packages". Of course it's always
> great to have a fully functional system just after an installation. But
> can you seriously use a FreeBSD fresh install? I think you need to
> install a bunch of packages before :-).
>
> So just a pkg install bind-tools is not so hard, isn't it?
>
> Regards,
>
> David.

All this is may be true, but I was asking about nslookup, specifically 
not BIND (as I pointed out in the original question). If you read most 
of this thread, people just want to talk about BIND and as a result I 
can see why you'd think this was the agenda when it wasn't. I'm having a 
few interesting off-list discussions about the merits or otherwise of 
BIND and where BIND10 is going, but that's not a question (feel free to 
join in by email).

So, to get back to the question, the problem is that nslookup is missing 
from base. Why?

Yes, it was part of BIND, but it needn't be as it uses its own resolver 
(which is one of its long-running criticisms, but in this case it's a 
strength).

Dig and host were also part of BIND. BIND's dig has been replaced in 
ldns by the semi-compatible "drill". BIND's host has been replaced on 
FreeBSD 10.0 by an ldns re-write. BIND's nslookup, the oldest utility of 
them all,  the one that people use for scripting because it's been there 
since the beginning of time (nearly), the one that's available 
(out-of-the-box) on every platform including Microsoft - is suddenly GONE!

If someone's not involved in server-type stuff and don't use shell 
scripts the significance of this may be less hard to see, but the reason 
for having a base system, unlike the disparate Linux distributions where 
nothing can be taken for granted, is that you can take a script written 
in 1986 that has limited itself to base-system utilities and it will 
STILL RUN in 2014.

So did this happen because someone decided that there was no need to 
have a DNS server in base when all that was needed was a caching 
resolver, and the nslookup utility was simply overlooked. Or did someone 
decide that nslookup was a problem and dropped it. Or is it on someone's 
To Do list and got missed off that way?



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Hi!

I have still problem with

Google Earth
6.0.3.2197
Build Date
5/13/2011
Build Time
5:16:07 pm
Renderer
OpenGL
Operating System
Linux (2.6.16.0)
Video Driver
Mesa Project
Max Texture Size
2048x2048
Server
kh.google.com

on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE  (amd64).
When I search for the city I got:
Invalid HTTP request

Is it possible to save this problem, please?


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On 26/01/2014 14:20, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>> There must be a discussion about how the decision was taken somewhere,
>> mustn't there? If there isn't, its looking like an accident.
>>
>> Regards, Frank.
> Hi Frank & questions@,
> There were discussions.  Nslookup was treated as a corollary of
> removing bind from src/ to ports/. To find discussions search archives
> with word bind in subject headers, (better than keyword nslookup or named).
> I recall archives to search as current@ or stable@ freebsd.org.
>
> The rationale for bind removal from src/ I thought ill advised; it won't
> suprise me if FreeBSD gets roasted for no longer being net server ready.
>
> Complaints or calls for review should go to <arch@freebsd.org>.
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
Thanks - I'm following this up. Incidentally, I've tested it and 
nslookup /runs/ just fine without any other part of BIND being present.

Regards, Frank.


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On 01/26/14 13:41, Warren Block wrote:

>> 1.0 setgray
> 
> 1.0 is white, 0 is black.

that might have something to do with it, :-)
except rgb failed also.

>> /Times-Roman findfont 60 scalefont setfont newpath 100 200 moveto 
>> (This is page (1).)
> 
> The paren operator defines a string.  

Got that part already, thanks.

>  But after defining a
> string, it just sits on the stack unless you draw it to the page with
> show:
> 
> (This is page \(1\).) show

Ah... that was the magic, thanks.

> After drawing everything on a page, the showpage operator prints the
> page, and then you can begin on the second page, which should also be
> followed by a showpage.
> 
> ps2pdf from ghostscript is handy for debugging without burning
> through paper.

thanks, *much* more convenient.


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On Sunday 26 January 2014 16:36:58 Ajtim wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have still problem with
> 
> Google Earth
> 6.0.3.2197
> Build Date
> 5/13/2011
> Build Time
> 5:16:07 pm
> Renderer
> OpenGL
> Operating System
> Linux (2.6.16.0)
> Video Driver
> Mesa Project
> Max Texture Size
> 2048x2048
> Server
> kh.google.com
> 
> on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE  (amd64).
> When I search for the city I got:
> Invalid HTTP request
> 
> Is it possible to save this problem, please?
> 
> 
> 

The problem is solved. I deleted libcurl.so.4 from google-earth directory and it works :).

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:37:02 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:
> On 01/26/14 13:41, Warren Block wrote:
> > ps2pdf from ghostscript is handy for debugging without burning
> > through paper.
> 
> thanks, *much* more convenient.

Even though considered old-fashioned, gv is an excellent
viewer for "not too complicated" PS and even PDF; ghostscript
also contains a viewer called gs (when compiled with X11
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I have got a new Thinkpad T440p with dual Intel / Nvidia graphics. As
Intel Haswell is of now unspupported I had high hopes for the nvidia
GPU. However, with x11/nvidia-driver I get a black screen and
following error message on dmesg:

nvidia0: <GeForce GT 730M> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI
Error: Field [TBF3] at 270336 exceeds Buffer [NULL] size 262144 (bits)
(20130823/dsopcode-249) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
[\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_.GETB] (Node 0xfffff80005341e00),
AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20130823/psparse-553) ACPI Error: Method
parse/execution failed [\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._ROM] (Node
0xfffff80005341e40), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20130823/psparse-553) ACPI
Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) em0:
link state changed to UP ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
(20130823/nsarguments-97)

I updated BIOS with
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS037576 to
have the newsest version.


I have seen such an error message reported to the letter in Sep '13 by
Hiren. Can anybody help me understand what's happening here, I have
absolutely no idea what that should mean.

Thanks and cheers, 
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I've just installed FreeBSD 10.0 and I'm getting the following line in
the /var/log/maillog file:
sm-mta[759]: STARTTLS=server: file /etc/mail/certs/dh.param unsafe: No
such file or directory

How do I fix this? What is the missing file?

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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Erich Dollansky
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> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:17:42 -0800
> "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Erich Dollansky
>> <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:41:54 -0800
>> > "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does anyone have any ideas on why startx would cause Xorg to
>> >> consume 100% cpu and stuck in RUN state. kill -9 does nothing to
>> >> it and forced to reboot to kill it.
>> >>
>> >> If I ssh localhost and startx, it works normally.
>> >>
>> >> I'm running FreeBSD 10.0 and it's a Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 with
>> >> USE_XORG_NEW undefined.
>> >>
>> > try to add WITH_GALLIUM and compile X again.
>> >
>> > X will work via ssh as it does not have anything to display on that
>> > machine then. It is the graphic card driver which is your problem.
>> >
>> > Erich
>>
>> grep -ir "WITH_GALLIUM" /usr/ports/x11*
>>
>> didn't show anything, what does that do? The ati driver worked fine in
>> FreeBSD 9.2. This card doesn't support KMS as it's an older laptop
>> video card.
>
> if KMS is not supported, then take the VESA driver and see what happens.
>
vesa works fine but wanted it to work with the ati driver which has acceleration

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On 27/01/2014 1:39 PM, Robert Simmons wrote:
> I've just installed FreeBSD 10.0 and I'm getting the following line in
> the /var/log/maillog file:
> sm-mta[759]: STARTTLS=server: file /etc/mail/certs/dh.param unsafe: No
> such file or directory
>
> How do I fix this? What is the missing file?
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cd /etc/mail/certs
openssl dhparam -out dh.param 4096

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Try reinstalling hal and the xf86-input-mouse driver and see if that solves it.

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote:
> I was running the last BETA release of FreeBSD until this morning. Having
> nothing better to do, I used "FreeBSD-update" to install the latest
> version. Everything appeared to go fine. However, I now find that the mouse
> will no longer work in KDE. This is a portion of the Xorg.0.log file:
>
> (II) config/hal: Adding input device Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0
> (II) LoadModule: "mouse"
> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
> (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>  compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.9.0
>  Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
>  ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0
> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/ums0"
> (==) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Protocol: "Auto"
> (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: always reports core events
> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/ums0"
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/ums0
>  Device busy.
> (EE) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: cannot open input device
> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0"
> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
>
> This is what it looked like when things were working:
>
> (II) config/hal: Adding input device Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0
> (II) LoadModule: "mouse"
> (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
> (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>  compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.9.0
>  Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
>  ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0
> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
> (==) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Protocol: "Auto"
> (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: always reports core events
> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
> (==) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
> (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
> (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: Buttons: 5
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver
> v7.0" (type: MOUSE)
> (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme
> 1
> (**) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: (accel) acceleration profile 0
> (II) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model
> is 0
> (II) Microsoft 2.4GHz Transceiver v7.0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse
>
> Absolutely nothing else was updated except for FreeBSD itself. I have tried
> rebooting twice with negative results. I can see the mouse pointer in KDE,
> but I cannot move it. However, in the CLI environment, the mouse works
> normally. I don't even know where to look to correct this problem.
>
> --
> Jerry
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Hi,

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:40:46 -0800
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> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Erich Dollansky
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> >
> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:17:42 -0800
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> >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Erich Dollansky
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> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:41:54 -0800
> >> > "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Does anyone have any ideas on why startx would cause Xorg to
> >> >> consume 100% cpu and stuck in RUN state. kill -9 does nothing to
> >> >> it and forced to reboot to kill it.

did you try the kill as root?
> >>
> >> didn't show anything, what does that do? The ati driver worked
> >> fine in FreeBSD 9.2. This card doesn't support KMS as it's an
> >> older laptop video card.
> >
> > if KMS is not supported, then take the VESA driver and see what
> > happens.
> >
> vesa works fine but wanted it to work with the ati driver which has
> acceleration

Ok, did you upgrade FreeBSD?

The recompile at least hal and the video driver.

Erich

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Why is this not part of the install?

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:43 PM, nano <nanotek@bsdbox.co> wrote:
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>> I've just installed FreeBSD 10.0 and I'm getting the following line in
>> the /var/log/maillog file:
>> sm-mta[759]: STARTTLS=server: file /etc/mail/certs/dh.param unsafe: No
>> such file or directory
>>
>> How do I fix this? What is the missing file?
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> cd /etc/mail/certs
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On 1/26/2014 6:20 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> The rationale for bind removal from src/ I thought ill advised; it won't
> suprise me if FreeBSD gets roasted for no longer being net server ready.

The irony being that if you were at all serious about running mail, DNS, 
NTP, etc., you used a port because the in-base versions were old and 
could not be easily upgraded in the event of security problems.  This is 
one of many points made during the discussion on removing BIND from the 
base.


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I need a sanity check, please, someone with cups and openoffice installed.
In my case I'm using an HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 tied to the 
HP Photosmart P1100 ppd file, which seems to be the recommendation.

the fbsd implementation of cups installs an lpr command in 
  /usr/local/bin
the system supplies one in 
  /usr/bin

The normal path puts /usr/bin ahead of /usr/local/bin

1. If I print the file below using
     /usr/bin/lpr duplex.ps
   it comes out duplexed properly.

2. If I print it using
     /usr/local/bin/lpr duplex.ps
   it comes out with the duplexed page upside down.

I'd appreciate it if someone could verify whether or not they see
similar behavior.

If I create a simple 2 page document in openoffice,
when printing from openoffice, I see the following:

3. If printed duplexed direct from OO, duplexed pages are upside down.
4. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/bin/lpr is used on the pdf, 
   no duplexing occurs -- I get two separate sheets.
5. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/local/bin/lpr is used on the pdf,
   duplexed pages are upside down.

================  duplex.ps  ===============
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%cupsJobTicket: media=Letter sides=two-sided-long-edge
%%BoundingBox: 36 36 576 756
%%Pages: 2
%%LanguageLevel: 2
%%Requirements: duplex
%%DocumentNeededResources: font Times-Roman
%%EndComments

%%BeginDefaults
%%PageOrientation: Portrait
0.0 setgray
/Times-Roman findfont 60 scalefont setfont
%%EndDefaults

%%BeginSetup
%%BeginFeature: *Duplex DuplexNoTumble
<< /Duplex true /Tumble false >> setpagedevice
%%EndFeature
%%EndSetup

%%Page: (Front Page (1)) 1
% Page 1 text
newpath 100 200 moveto (Page 1 Duplex.ps) show
showpage

%%Page: (Back Page (2)) 2
% Page 2 text
newpath 100 200 moveto (Page 2 Duplex.ps) show
showpage

%%EOF
%

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:51:54 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:
> I need a sanity check, please, someone with cups and openoffice installed.
> In my case I'm using an HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 tied to the 
> HP Photosmart P1100 ppd file, which seems to be the recommendation.
> 
> the fbsd implementation of cups installs an lpr command in 
>   /usr/local/bin
> the system supplies one in 
>   /usr/bin

That's the default beviour. CUPS can be instructed to
overwrite the OS tools, or the system can be installed
with omitting the lpr tools (see src.conf option).



> The normal path puts /usr/bin ahead of /usr/local/bin

Unless you change this - yes.



> 1. If I print the file below using
>      /usr/bin/lpr duplex.ps
>    it comes out duplexed properly.

I assume this will simply override CUPS. As your printer
speaks PS, the file will simply be transferred into the
printer and will be processed "as is".



> 2. If I print it using
>      /usr/local/bin/lpr duplex.ps
>    it comes out with the duplexed page upside down.

This will use CUPS's settings which may add a "preample"
of PS to the printer to reflect those settings, for example
which "duplexing manner" (long or short edge "wrap") will
be used.

To find out if those settings exist, open a web browser (bah)
and go to http://localhost:631 where you can find the CUPS
administration web pages. Check your printer's settings
carefully. (I know there's also a lpadmin tool, but haven't
bothered learning it because I tend to avoid CUPS whenever
possible, because when you have a PS-capable printer, it's
probably just useless overhead.)



> I'd appreciate it if someone could verify whether or not they see
> similar behavior.
> 


> If I create a simple 2 page document in openoffice,
> when printing from openoffice, I see the following:
> 
> 3. If printed duplexed direct from OO, duplexed pages are upside down.

As expected.



> 4. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/bin/lpr is used on the pdf, 
>    no duplexing occurs -- I get two separate sheets.

This could be explained by the way OO generates PDF and how
the printer filters turn that into PS. Or if your printer is
also capable of speaking PDF (directly), no mentioning that
it should use duplex is in the PDF input. If the printer has
an operator panel which allows setting duplex precedence,
check if duplex is off or on there.



> 5. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/local/bin/lpr is used on the pdf,
>    duplexed pages are upside down.

Matches number 3.



>From your PS source:

> %cupsJobTicket: media=Letter sides=two-sided-long-edge

There's also two-sided-short-edge (corresponding to the setting
accessible via localhost:631).





-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, Gary Aitken wrote:

> I need a sanity check, please, someone with cups and openoffice installed.
> In my case I'm using an HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 tied to the
> HP Photosmart P1100 ppd file, which seems to be the recommendation.
>
> the fbsd implementation of cups installs an lpr command in
>  /usr/local/bin
> the system supplies one in
>  /usr/bin
>
> The normal path puts /usr/bin ahead of /usr/local/bin
>
> 1. If I print the file below using
>     /usr/bin/lpr duplex.ps
>   it comes out duplexed properly.

The base system lpr and lpd do not mess with the incoming files unless 
you set up a filter.

> 2. If I print it using
>     /usr/local/bin/lpr duplex.ps
>   it comes out with the duplexed page upside down.

I would suspect this is because CUPS has modified the file based on the 
PPD.  Redirecting the final output to a file might be possible, but I 
don't use CUPS and can't help with that.

> I'd appreciate it if someone could verify whether or not they see
> similar behavior.
>
> If I create a simple 2 page document in openoffice,
> when printing from openoffice, I see the following:
>
> 3. If printed duplexed direct from OO, duplexed pages are upside down.
> 4. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/bin/lpr is used on the pdf,
>   no duplexing occurs -- I get two separate sheets.

Again mostly guessing, but the duplexing information, being 
device-specific, is probably removed when the PDF is created.

> 5. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/local/bin/lpr is used on the pdf,
>   duplexed pages are upside down.

And that duplexing works here would be due to CUPS adding the 
device-specific information when a job is printed.

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hello guys

i wanna have ipsec with dynamic ip address. i searched a lot and just
little unclear answers found. one post mentions to use
"dhclient-exit-hooks" script to update ipsec configuration file when an ip
address is assigned. another old post says to use certificate.  are these
solution correct and useable???
can't ipsec-tool manage it yourself (by some command in config files)???

linux has a "hacking_vpn_tools" in net-firewall. it has a variable
"set_racoon_ip" to handle dynamic ip addresses. is there such thing in
freebsd or not?

thanks in advance
SAM

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On 01/26/14 22:05, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:51:54 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:

>> 2. If I print it using
>>      /usr/local/bin/lpr duplex.ps
>>    it comes out with the duplexed page upside down.
> 
> This will use CUPS's settings which may add a "preample"
> of PS to the printer to reflect those settings, for example
> which "duplexing manner" (long or short edge "wrap") will
> be used.

Except that in this case the %cupsJobsTicket: comment should
instruct it to use long-edge duplexing, which should override
any cups default.  The default for this printer is no-duplex,
so if it overrides it shouldn't duplex at all.

> To find out if those settings exist, open a web browser (bah)
> and go to http://localhost:631 where you can find the CUPS
> administration web pages. Check your printer's settings
> carefully. (I know there's also a lpadmin tool, but haven't
> bothered learning it because I tend to avoid CUPS whenever
> possible, because when you have a PS-capable printer, it's
> probably just useless overhead.)

Checked that already, and it is set by default to not duplex.
So presumably its preamble would not change the duplexing.
But the document itself has embedded duplexing along the long
edge.  Why would that result in the short-edge behavior?

>> If I create a simple 2 page document in openoffice,
>> when printing from openoffice, I see the following:
>>
>> 3. If printed duplexed direct from OO, duplexed pages are upside down.
> 
> As expected.

Why?  Default is no duplex, but I turned long edge duplex on
in the print dialog.

>> 4. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/bin/lpr is used on the pdf, 
>>    no duplexing occurs -- I get two separate sheets.
> 
> This could be explained by the way OO generates PDF and how
> the printer filters turn that into PS. Or if your printer is
> also capable of speaking PDF (directly), no mentioning that
> it should use duplex is in the PDF input. 

ok, at least that part makes sense.  /usr/bin/lpr will ignore the 
$cupsJobTicket: statement.

> If the printer has
> an operator panel which allows setting duplex precedence,
> check if duplex is off or on there.

No duplexing option there.

>> 5. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/local/bin/lpr is used on the pdf,
>>    duplexed pages are upside down.
> 
> Matches number 3.

>>From your PS source:
> 
>> %cupsJobTicket: media=Letter sides=two-sided-long-edge
> 
> There's also two-sided-short-edge (corresponding to the setting
> accessible via localhost:631).

That's what I don't understand.
It says two-sided-long-edge.  Why would it be performing as if
it said two-sided-short-edge?


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> Why is this not part of the install?

Sendmail in base doesn't come configured to use TLS by default, although
the appropriate capabilities are compiled in to the binaries.

I've no idea why enabling TLS isn't the default -- seems like a
no-brainer in this day and age.  It would require generating a key and
(self-signed) cert on first startup after installation, much like the
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 27/01/2014 03:19, Robert Simmons wrote:
>> Why is this not part of the install?
>
> Sendmail in base doesn't come configured to use TLS by default, although
> the appropriate capabilities are compiled in to the binaries.
>
> I've no idea why enabling TLS isn't the default -- seems like a
> no-brainer in this day and age.  It would require generating a key and
> (self-signed) cert on first startup after installation, much like the
> way SSH keys are generated, but so long as the problems with startup
> entropy availability have been satisfactorily sorted out (which I
> believe they have) I can't see any huge problem with that.

Thanks for the explanation. I agree with the no-brainer. Last week the
keynote at ShmooCon was Ian Golberg, and one of the main points of his
talk was that nothing should ever be sent over a network in plaintext
from now on. And there should not be a choice of two protocol
versions, one encrypted and one plaintext, because a non-zero number
of users will choose plaintext.

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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:12-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm really confused about something so I hope someone can help me clear the
> fog up....
> 
> basically I'm about to setup a ZFS RAIDZ3 pool and having discovered this
> site:
> 
> https://calomel.org/zfs_raid_speed_capacity.html
> 
> as a reference for disk quantity got totally confused.

Dead link as far as I can tell.

> Though in addition have checked out these sites too:
> 
> https://blogs.oracle.com/ahl/entry/triple_parity_raid_z
> 
> http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/06/03/howto-create-raidz2-pool/
> 
> http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/
> 
> http://www.linux.org/threads/zettabyte-file-system-zfs.4619/
> 
> 
> Implementing a test ZFS pool on my old FreeBSD 8.3 box using dd derived vdevs
> coupled with reading the man page for zpool found that raidz3 needs a minimum
> of 4 disks to work.
> 

> However, according to the above mentioned site for triple parity one should
> use 5 disks in 2+3 format.
> 
> My confusion is this: does the 2+3 mean 2 disks in the pool with 3 hot spares
> or does it mean 5 disks in the pool?

No one's answered this, so I'll just give you my 2 cents.

Triple parity means you're using storage capacity equivalent of three 
drives for parity alone. If you use five drives in total, this gives 
you 2 drives worth of real data and 3 drives worth of parity. In other 
words, you should really consider using a lot more drives when using 
triple parity, say nine drives.

> As in:
> 
> zpool create <pool_name> raidz3 disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4 disk5

No spares are configured. You should consider something like this:

zpool create <pool_name> raidz3 disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4 disk5 spare disk6 disk7 disk8

> In addition to my testing I was looking at ease of expansion... ie. growing
> the pool, so is doing something like this:
> 
> zpool create <pool_name> raidz3 disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4
> 
> Then when I needed to expand just do:
> 
> zpool add <pool_name> raidz3 disk5 disk6 disk7 disk8

You should do some further experimentation and consider the effects of 
the zpool attach command.

> which gets:
> 
>   pool: testpool
>  state: ONLINE
> status: The pool is formatted using a legacy on-disk format.  The pool can
>     still be used, but some features are unavailable.
> action: Upgrade the pool using 'zpool upgrade'.  Once this is done, the
>     pool will no longer be accessible on software that does not support
> feature
>     flags.
>   scan: none requested
> config:
> 
>     NAME            STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>     testpool        ONLINE       0     0     0
>       raidz3-0      ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk1  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk2  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk3  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk4  ONLINE       0     0     0
>       raidz3-1      ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk5  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk6  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk7  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk8  ONLINE       0     0     0

This is an unclever setup. Of the eight drives configured, you'll only 
are allowed to use real storage capacity equivalent of two of the 
drives. Maybe you're aiming for redundancy rather than storage 
capacity.

> ----------
> 
> The same as this:
> 
> ----------
> 
>   pool: testpool
>  state: ONLINE
> status: The pool is formatted using a legacy on-disk format.  The pool can
>     still be used, but some features are unavailable.
> action: Upgrade the pool using 'zpool upgrade'.  Once this is done, the
>     pool will no longer be accessible on software that does not support
> feature
>     flags.
>   scan: none requested
> config:
> 
>     NAME            STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>     testpool        ONLINE       0     0     0
>       raidz3-0      ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk1  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk2  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk3  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk4  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk5  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk6  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk7  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk8  ONLINE       0     0     0

This setup is a bit more clever, as you'll get the storage capacity 
equivalent of fives drives for real data and the storage capacity 
equivalent of three drives for parity.

> ?? Of course using the 1st method there is extra meta data involved but not
> too much especially with TB drives.
> 
> Having created a zfs filesystem on top of both setups, the fs will grow over
> the 1st scenario to utilize disks 5 through 8 added later; while of course
> with the second setup the filesystem is already created over all 8 disks.
> 
> 
> In a real situation however, the above would certainly be 5 disks at a time to
> gain the triple parity, with ZIL and L2ARC on SSD's and hot swap spares.
> 
> 
> The reason am asking the above is that I've got a new enclosure with up to 26
> disk capacity and need to create a stable environment and make best use of the
> space. So another words, maximum redundancy with max capacity allowed per
> method: which would be raidz1..3 and of course raidz3 offers the best
> redundancy but yet has much more capacity then a raid1+0 setup.

I'm a bit unsure as to whether it's better to simply attach new disks 
to the existing raidz3 vdev rather than adding entire new raidz3 vdevs 
to the pool. Once you do either, there's no going back unless you are 
prepared to recreate the entire pool. Maybe someone else can chime in 
on this.

> My intention was to grab 5 disks to start with then expand as necessary plus 2
> SSD's for ZIL+L2ARC using (raid0 mirroring and raid1 mirroring consecutively)
> and then 3x hot swap spares and use lz4 compression on the filesystem. With
> FreeBSD 10.0 as base OS... my current 8.3 must be EOL now though on a
> different box so no matter :-)

Spare drives can be added anytime (zpool add spare diskN) and removed 
(zpool remove) unless the spare drive is currently engaged by some 
pool.

> Hopefully someone can help me understanding the above.
> 
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Kaya

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Many thanks Trond for the response....

I was getting worried for a sec there :-)

On 01/27/2014 09:08 AM, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:12-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
>
> [...]
> No one's answered this, so I'll just give you my 2 cents.
>
> Triple parity means you're using storage capacity equivalent of three
> drives for parity alone. If you use five drives in total, this gives
> you 2 drives worth of real data and 3 drives worth of parity. In other
> words, you should really consider using a lot more drives when using
> triple parity, say nine drives.

So, basically if I have (just as silly example); 5x drives of 100MB 
capacity, this would equal 500MB in total.

Meaning that only 200MB would be usable.....


Having just done a quick experiment:

zpool create test_pool raidz3 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 
/tmp/disk4 /tmp/disk5

I get:

test_pool    476M   304K   476M     0%  1.00x  ONLINE  -

then writing a 300M file to pool:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=300M count=1
dd: /test_pool/file: No space left on device

test_pool    476M   396M  79.8M    83%  1.00x  ONLINE  -

du -sch /test_pool/file
157M    /test_pool/file
157M    total

>
>

So I guess, now I have to ask; when building a disk pool, what's the 
best option to go for between capacity and redundancy?

In my case I gradually want to expand my storage when I need it, so to 
maximize capacity RAID0 would be the easiest. This doesn't give me any 
redundancy however, unless I use RAID1+0 but then I loose physical 
capacity due to the mirrors.


Would it be better to create a raidz1 pool then just add raidz1 pools to 
the master as time goes by?

As in:

zpool create test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 
/tmp/disk4 /tmp/disk5


zpool add test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk6 /tmp/disk7 /tmp/disk8 /tmp/disk9 
/tmp/disk10


dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=600M count=1                    
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
629145600 bytes transferred in 190.069986 secs (3310073 bytes/sec)


Then running a 'zpool list' gets:

test_pool    952M   751M   201M    78%  1.00x  ONLINE  -


So virtually out of:


     NAME             STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
     test_pool        ONLINE       0     0     0
       raidz1-0       ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk1   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk2   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk3   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk4   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk5   ONLINE       0     0     0
       raidz1-1       ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk6   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk7   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk8   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk9   ONLINE       0     0     0
         /tmp/disk10  ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors



I have 8 disks usable with 2x disks for parity.... if my understanding 
is correct.


Regards,


Kaya

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I have a process that is occasionally giving me a situation that I don't =
understand.  It listens to a well-known port and processes requests =
received on that report.  It does return data to the calling system.  =
When a request is received, a child process is created that actually =
does most of the work.  The child process uses another process via a =
pipe during the processing to obtain some data it uses.

Occasionally, the main process exits with nothing logged.  I suspect its =
doing an exit, but thats just a guess at this time.  Some of the time =
(fairly infrequently), the main process cannot be restarted.  The =
process at the end of the pipe is now shown as having the port open.  =
lsof shows that.  If I restart that process, then the main process can =
be restarted properly.

Why would the process at the end of the pipe end up being attached to =
the port?  Unfortunately, the system always seems to be quiet (no =
requests in process) when this happens so nothing is logged by any =
process.  Normally I have a monitoring process that detects the main =
process being gone and restarts it.  But that doesn't work when the port =
is held by the final process.=

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:59:27 +0000
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> Would it be better to create a raidz1 pool then just add raidz1 pools to 
> the master as time goes by?

	I would advise against using any scheme that only allows a single
disc failure. When (not if) a disc fails and needs to go RMA you're stuck
with no redundancy at all until the replacement comes back and gets
resilvered. That can be an uncomfortably long time, especially if all your
drives came from the same batch (if at all possible don't let that happen,
I've seen a big RAID array lose several drives in one day because they all
came from the same batch and all wore out together).

-- 
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On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 10:20 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:59:27 +0000
> Kaya Saman <kayasaman@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Would it be better to create a raidz1 pool then just add raidz1 pools to 
> > the master as time goes by?
> 
> 	I would advise against using any scheme that only allows a single
> disc failure. When (not if) a disc fails and needs to go RMA you're stuck
> with no redundancy at all until the replacement comes back and gets
> resilvered. That can be an uncomfortably long time, especially if all your
> drives came from the same batch (if at all possible don't let that happen,
> I've seen a big RAID array lose several drives in one day because they all
> came from the same batch and all wore out together).
> 

+1

I've been burned by multiple drive failures more times than I care to
admit. Most of my RAID arrays are now RAID6 or RAIDz2. I mirror when I
have small space requirements (storage and physical) and I'm satisfied
with the risk. 




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Hello!

This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
everything ok.

I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything was
just fine.

Until I did a

$ sudo portsnap fetch update

today and afterwards a

$ sudo portmaster -aD

which told me that it wanted to update lang/ruby19. I confirmed its
wish and it started making this port. After a couple of seconds it
failed with the following error message:

ruby library version = 1.9
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating ruby-1.9.pc
===>  Building for ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1
make[2]: don't know how to make OPENSSL_CFLAGS. Stop

make[2]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ruby19/work/ruby-1.9.3-p484
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ruby19
*** Error code 1

I did some research but could not find anything. I tried to rebuild
security/openssl, which failed with the following error message:

generating dummy tests (if needed)...

Since you've disabled or enabled at least one algorithm, you need to do
the following before building:

	make depend

Configured for BSD-x86_64.
/usr/bin/sed -i.bak  -e 's|^MANDIR=.*$|MANDIR=$(MANPREFIX)/man|'  -e  
's|$(LIBDIR)/pkgconfig|libdata/pkgconfig|g'  -e 's|LIBVERSION=[^ ]*  
|LIBVERSION=8 |'   
/usr/ports/security/openssl/work/openssl-1.0.1f/Makefile
===>  Building for openssl-1.0.1_9
make[2]: don't know how to make WHOLE_ARCHIVE_FLAG. Stop

make[2]: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl/work/openssl-1.0.1f
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl

I tried some other ports, too, like mail/mutt, which fails during the  
build of www/lynx ("don't know how to make helpdir") ... One port did  
work, though, lang/go.

What is going on here? Has my make environment some sort of amnesia?

Thanks for help in advance!

I'm happy to provide more information if needed.





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Hi,

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:

> This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
> everything ok.

do not worry to much about this.
> 
> I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything was
> just fine.
> 
I do the same.

> Until I did a
> 
> $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> 
> today and afterwards a
> 
> $ sudo portmaster -aD
> 
I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning but I used
svn and portupgrade without any problems.

How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?

I do not see what basic thing is wrong here.

Erich

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:59-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:

> Many thanks Trond for the response....
> 
> I was getting worried for a sec there :-)
> 
> On 01/27/2014 09:08 AM, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:12-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > No one's answered this, so I'll just give you my 2 cents.
> > 
> > Triple parity means you're using storage capacity equivalent of three
> > drives for parity alone. If you use five drives in total, this gives
> > you 2 drives worth of real data and 3 drives worth of parity. In other
> > words, you should really consider using a lot more drives when using
> > triple parity, say nine drives.
> 
> So, basically if I have (just as silly example); 5x drives of 100MB capacity,
> this would equal 500MB in total.
> 
> Meaning that only 200MB would be usable.....

Also remember a couple of things:

ZFS uses dynamically stripe widths, not fixed ones as HW RAID. A 37K 
file will occupy 37K, rounded up to the nearest integer of disk 
blocks, plus the space needed for parity and metadata.

Without a dedicated ZIL, ZFS will also use some of the available space 
for housekeeping, e.g. ZIL.

You shouldn't fill a pool in production completely with data, leaving 
no room for any COW operations.

> Having just done a quick experiment:
> 
> zpool create test_pool raidz3 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 /tmp/disk4
> /tmp/disk5
> 
> I get:
> 
> test_pool    476M   304K   476M     0%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
> 
> then writing a 300M file to pool:
> 
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=300M count=1
> dd: /test_pool/file: No space left on device
> 
> test_pool    476M   396M  79.8M    83%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
> 
> du -sch /test_pool/file
> 157M    /test_pool/file
> 157M    total
> 
> So I guess, now I have to ask; when building a disk pool, what's the best
> option to go for between capacity and redundancy?

If you value your data and your data grows, as it usually does, go for 
both. I hope you're adding some form of backup to the mix, as ZFS is 
no substitute for doing proper backups to independent media.

> In my case I gradually want to expand my storage when I need it, so to
> maximize capacity RAID0 would be the easiest. This doesn't give me any
> redundancy however, unless I use RAID1+0 but then I loose physical capacity
> due to the mirrors.
> 
> 
> Would it be better to create a raidz1 pool then just add raidz1 pools to the
> master as time goes by?
> 
> As in:
> 
> zpool create test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 /tmp/disk4
> /tmp/disk5
> 
> 
> zpool add test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk6 /tmp/disk7 /tmp/disk8 /tmp/disk9
> /tmp/disk10
> 
> 
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=600M count=1                    1+0
> records in
> 1+0 records out
> 629145600 bytes transferred in 190.069986 secs (3310073 bytes/sec)
> 
> 
> Then running a 'zpool list' gets:
> 
> test_pool    952M   751M   201M    78%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
> 
> 
> So virtually out of:
> 
> 
>     NAME             STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>     test_pool        ONLINE       0     0     0
>       raidz1-0       ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk1   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk2   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk3   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk4   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk5   ONLINE       0     0     0
>       raidz1-1       ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk6   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk7   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk8   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk9   ONLINE       0     0     0
>         /tmp/disk10  ONLINE       0     0     0
> 
> errors: No known data errors
> 
> 
> I have 8 disks usable with 2x disks for parity.... if my understanding is
> correct.

Correct. One "parity drive" evenly (or close to evenly) spread over 
the members in each raidz1 vdev.

I just realized having multiple zraidN vdevs reduces the time needed 
for resilvering. Just don't make each vdev too small, i.e. with too 
few drives.

As other's have told you, consider raidz2 or raidz3, as drives from 
the same batch and with equal wear and tear, might fail more or less 
simultaneously.

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:43:38 -0800, Jack L. stated:

> Try reinstalling hal and the xf86-input-mouse driver and see if that
> solves it.

I re-installed both and then rebooted the system and now all is well. I
am not sure if re-installing either one by itself would have alleviated
the problem; however, since doing both only consumed a few minutes, it
is not worth investigating any further.

I would be interested in knowing if anyone else had this problem. If
so, perhaps creating a note for it somewhere might be a good idea.

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I am getting the same error with ruby19 on my poudriere build server:

===>  Building for ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1
make[1]: don't know how to make OPENSSL_CFLAGS. Stop

make[1]: stopped in /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/ruby19/work/ruby-1.9.3-p484
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ruby19

Charlie

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:

> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
> From: lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: weird error messages with various ports
> 
> Hello!
>
> This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
> everything ok.
>
> I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything was
> just fine.
>
> Until I did a
>
> $ sudo portsnap fetch update
>
> today and afterwards a
>
> $ sudo portmaster -aD
>
> which told me that it wanted to update lang/ruby19. I confirmed its
> wish and it started making this port. After a couple of seconds it
> failed with the following error message:
>
> ruby library version = 1.9
> configure: creating ./config.status
> config.status: creating Makefile
> config.status: creating ruby-1.9.pc
> ===>  Building for ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1
> make[2]: don't know how to make OPENSSL_CFLAGS. Stop
>
> make[2]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ruby19/work/ruby-1.9.3-p484
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ruby19
> *** Error code 1
>
> I did some research but could not find anything. I tried to rebuild
> security/openssl, which failed with the following error message:
>
> generating dummy tests (if needed)...
>
> Since you've disabled or enabled at least one algorithm, you need to do
> the following before building:
>
> 	make depend
>
> Configured for BSD-x86_64.
> /usr/bin/sed -i.bak  -e 's|^MANDIR=.*$|MANDIR=$(MANPREFIX)/man|'  -e 
> 's|$(LIBDIR)/pkgconfig|libdata/pkgconfig|g'  -e 's|LIBVERSION=[^ ]* 
> |LIBVERSION=8 |'  /usr/ports/security/openssl/work/openssl-1.0.1f/Makefile
> ===>  Building for openssl-1.0.1_9
> make[2]: don't know how to make WHOLE_ARCHIVE_FLAG. Stop
>
> make[2]: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl/work/openssl-1.0.1f
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop.
> make: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl
>
> I tried some other ports, too, like mail/mutt, which fails during the build 
> of www/lynx ("don't know how to make helpdir") ... One port did work, though, 
> lang/go.
>
> What is going on here? Has my make environment some sort of amnesia?
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> Thanks for help in advance!
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> I'm happy to provide more information if needed.
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Many thanks everyone (Trond, Dennis, Steve)!!

So RAIDz2 or 3 is going to be preferred per the advice given.

Now I just need to figure out how to make that work best with my current 
5 block of disks....  perhaps wait for a while then add some more disks 
in the mix then create the raidz(x) platform??

It would be really good if raidz could be expandable, ie by adding extra 
'new' disks into the same vdev.

Anyhow, luckily I have multiple backups of everything in any case; just 
flying around on loose disks though :-(


Regards,

Kaya

On 01/27/2014 11:20 AM, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:59-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
>
>> Many thanks Trond for the response....
>>
>> I was getting worried for a sec there :-)
>>
>> On 01/27/2014 09:08 AM, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:12-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> No one's answered this, so I'll just give you my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> Triple parity means you're using storage capacity equivalent of three
>>> drives for parity alone. If you use five drives in total, this gives
>>> you 2 drives worth of real data and 3 drives worth of parity. In other
>>> words, you should really consider using a lot more drives when using
>>> triple parity, say nine drives.
>> So, basically if I have (just as silly example); 5x drives of 100MB capacity,
>> this would equal 500MB in total.
>>
>> Meaning that only 200MB would be usable.....
> Also remember a couple of things:
>
> ZFS uses dynamically stripe widths, not fixed ones as HW RAID. A 37K
> file will occupy 37K, rounded up to the nearest integer of disk
> blocks, plus the space needed for parity and metadata.
>
> Without a dedicated ZIL, ZFS will also use some of the available space
> for housekeeping, e.g. ZIL.
>
> You shouldn't fill a pool in production completely with data, leaving
> no room for any COW operations.
>
>> Having just done a quick experiment:
>>
>> zpool create test_pool raidz3 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 /tmp/disk4
>> /tmp/disk5
>>
>> I get:
>>
>> test_pool    476M   304K   476M     0%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
>>
>> then writing a 300M file to pool:
>>
>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=300M count=1
>> dd: /test_pool/file: No space left on device
>>
>> test_pool    476M   396M  79.8M    83%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
>>
>> du -sch /test_pool/file
>> 157M    /test_pool/file
>> 157M    total
>>
>> So I guess, now I have to ask; when building a disk pool, what's the best
>> option to go for between capacity and redundancy?
> If you value your data and your data grows, as it usually does, go for
> both. I hope you're adding some form of backup to the mix, as ZFS is
> no substitute for doing proper backups to independent media.
>
>> In my case I gradually want to expand my storage when I need it, so to
>> maximize capacity RAID0 would be the easiest. This doesn't give me any
>> redundancy however, unless I use RAID1+0 but then I loose physical capacity
>> due to the mirrors.
>>
>>
>> Would it be better to create a raidz1 pool then just add raidz1 pools to the
>> master as time goes by?
>>
>> As in:
>>
>> zpool create test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 /tmp/disk4
>> /tmp/disk5
>>
>>
>> zpool add test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk6 /tmp/disk7 /tmp/disk8 /tmp/disk9
>> /tmp/disk10
>>
>>
>> dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=600M count=1                    1+0
>> records in
>> 1+0 records out
>> 629145600 bytes transferred in 190.069986 secs (3310073 bytes/sec)
>>
>>
>> Then running a 'zpool list' gets:
>>
>> test_pool    952M   751M   201M    78%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
>>
>>
>> So virtually out of:
>>
>>
>>      NAME             STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>>      test_pool        ONLINE       0     0     0
>>        raidz1-0       ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk1   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk2   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk3   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk4   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk5   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>        raidz1-1       ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk6   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk7   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk8   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk9   ONLINE       0     0     0
>>          /tmp/disk10  ONLINE       0     0     0
>>
>> errors: No known data errors
>>
>>
>> I have 8 disks usable with 2x disks for parity.... if my understanding is
>> correct.
> Correct. One "parity drive" evenly (or close to evenly) spread over
> the members in each raidz1 vdev.
>
> I just realized having multiple zraidN vdevs reduces the time needed
> for resilvering. Just don't make each vdev too small, i.e. with too
> few drives.
>
> As other's have told you, consider raidz2 or raidz3, as drives from
> the same batch and with equal wear and tear, might fail more or less
> simultaneously.
>


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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
> lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
>=20
> > This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
> > everything ok.
>=20
> do not worry to much about this.
> >=20
> > I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything was
> > just fine.
> >=20
> I do the same.
>=20
> > Until I did a
> >=20
> > $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> >=20
> > today and afterwards a
> >=20
> > $ sudo portmaster -aD
> >=20
> I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning but I used
> svn and portupgrade without any problems.
>=20
> How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?

Three days old.=20

> I do not see what basic thing is wrong here.

Too bad ;)


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Hi,

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:49:19 +0100
_1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
> > lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
> > 
> > > This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
> > > everything ok.
> > 
> > do not worry to much about this.
> > > 
> > > I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything
> > > was just fine.
> > > 
> > I do the same.
> > 
> > > Until I did a
> > > 
> > > $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> > > 
> > > today and afterwards a
> > > 
> > > $ sudo portmaster -aD
> > > 
> > I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning but I
> > used svn and portupgrade without any problems.
> > 
> > How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?
> 
> Three days old. 
> 
ok, get the latest one and try again. If it still does not work, I
could give you the revision number of my working ports tree.

Erich

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:03:26PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:49:19 +0100
> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
> > > lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
> > > > everything ok.
> > > 
> > > do not worry to much about this.
> > > > 
> > > > I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything
> > > > was just fine.
> > > > 
> > > I do the same.
> > > 
> > > > Until I did a
> > > > 
> > > > $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> > > > 
> > > > today and afterwards a
> > > > 
> > > > $ sudo portmaster -aD
> > > > 
> > > I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning but I
> > > used svn and portupgrade without any problems.
> > > 
> > > How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?
> > 
> > Three days old. 
> > 
> ok, get the latest one and try again. If it still does not work, I
> could give you the revision number of my working ports tree.

It still does not work. However, I do not have a revision number,
IIUC, because I'm updating my ports with portsnap and not with svn,
right? I might try to checkout ports anew and see whether that works
then.

Christian.


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On 27/01/2014 07:40, Robert Simmons wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> On 27/01/2014 03:19, Robert Simmons wrote:
>>> Why is this not part of the install?
>> Sendmail in base doesn't come configured to use TLS by default, although
>> the appropriate capabilities are compiled in to the binaries.
>>
>> I've no idea why enabling TLS isn't the default -- seems like a
>> no-brainer in this day and age.  It would require generating a key and
>> (self-signed) cert on first startup after installation, much like the
>> way SSH keys are generated, but so long as the problems with startup
>> entropy availability have been satisfactorily sorted out (which I
>> believe they have) I can't see any huge problem with that.
> Thanks for the explanation. I agree with the no-brainer. Last week the
> keynote at ShmooCon was Ian Golberg, and one of the main points of his
> talk was that nothing should ever be sent over a network in plaintext
> from now on. And there should not be a choice of two protocol
> versions, one encrypted and one plaintext, because a non-zero number
> of users will choose plaintext.
>
It's not as simple as that as quite a lot of application software uses 
the unencrypted ports and it has no way of knowing whether it's talking 
on a secure unencrypted line (i.e. local copper or VPN).

I haven't played with the latest release sendmail, but if SSL and SASL 
are easier to turn on, that's a great start.

I don't think anyone with a brain has been sending unencrypted email 
across the Internet, except possibly iPhone users, for whom installing a 
self-signed certificate seems to be impossible (if anyone knows a method 
that's simple enough for a fanboi to understand, please tell me!)



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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:42-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:

> Many thanks everyone (Trond, Dennis, Steve)!!
> 
> So RAIDz2 or 3 is going to be preferred per the advice given.
> 
> Now I just need to figure out how to make that work best with my current 5
> block of disks....  perhaps wait for a while then add some more disks in the
> mix then create the raidz(x) platform??
> 
> It would be really good if raidz could be expandable, ie by adding extra 'new'
> disks into the same vdev.

It's there!

Try: zpool attach <pool_name> <existing_member> <new_member1> [new_member2 ...]

> Anyhow, luckily I have multiple backups of everything in any case; just flying
> around on loose disks though :-(
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kaya
> 
> On 01/27/2014 11:20 AM, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:59-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
> > 
> > > Many thanks Trond for the response....
> > > 
> > > I was getting worried for a sec there :-)
> > > 
> > > On 01/27/2014 09:08 AM, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:12-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > No one's answered this, so I'll just give you my 2 cents.
> > > > 
> > > > Triple parity means you're using storage capacity equivalent of three
> > > > drives for parity alone. If you use five drives in total, this gives
> > > > you 2 drives worth of real data and 3 drives worth of parity. In other
> > > > words, you should really consider using a lot more drives when using
> > > > triple parity, say nine drives.
> > > So, basically if I have (just as silly example); 5x drives of 100MB
> > > capacity,
> > > this would equal 500MB in total.
> > > 
> > > Meaning that only 200MB would be usable.....
> > Also remember a couple of things:
> > 
> > ZFS uses dynamically stripe widths, not fixed ones as HW RAID. A 37K
> > file will occupy 37K, rounded up to the nearest integer of disk
> > blocks, plus the space needed for parity and metadata.
> > 
> > Without a dedicated ZIL, ZFS will also use some of the available space
> > for housekeeping, e.g. ZIL.
> > 
> > You shouldn't fill a pool in production completely with data, leaving
> > no room for any COW operations.
> > 
> > > Having just done a quick experiment:
> > > 
> > > zpool create test_pool raidz3 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 /tmp/disk4
> > > /tmp/disk5
> > > 
> > > I get:
> > > 
> > > test_pool    476M   304K   476M     0%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
> > > 
> > > then writing a 300M file to pool:
> > > 
> > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=300M count=1
> > > dd: /test_pool/file: No space left on device
> > > 
> > > test_pool    476M   396M  79.8M    83%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
> > > 
> > > du -sch /test_pool/file
> > > 157M    /test_pool/file
> > > 157M    total
> > > 
> > > So I guess, now I have to ask; when building a disk pool, what's the best
> > > option to go for between capacity and redundancy?
> > If you value your data and your data grows, as it usually does, go for
> > both. I hope you're adding some form of backup to the mix, as ZFS is
> > no substitute for doing proper backups to independent media.
> > 
> > > In my case I gradually want to expand my storage when I need it, so to
> > > maximize capacity RAID0 would be the easiest. This doesn't give me any
> > > redundancy however, unless I use RAID1+0 but then I loose physical
> > > capacity
> > > due to the mirrors.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Would it be better to create a raidz1 pool then just add raidz1 pools to
> > > the
> > > master as time goes by?
> > > 
> > > As in:
> > > 
> > > zpool create test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk2 /tmp/disk3 /tmp/disk4
> > > /tmp/disk5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > zpool add test_pool raidz1 /tmp/disk6 /tmp/disk7 /tmp/disk8 /tmp/disk9
> > > /tmp/disk10
> > > 
> > > 
> > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/test_pool/file bs=600M count=1                    1+0
> > > records in
> > > 1+0 records out
> > > 629145600 bytes transferred in 190.069986 secs (3310073 bytes/sec)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Then running a 'zpool list' gets:
> > > 
> > > test_pool    952M   751M   201M    78%  1.00x  ONLINE  -
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So virtually out of:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >      NAME             STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
> > >      test_pool        ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >        raidz1-0       ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk1   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk2   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk3   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk4   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk5   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >        raidz1-1       ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk6   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk7   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk8   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk9   ONLINE       0     0     0
> > >          /tmp/disk10  ONLINE       0     0     0
> > > 
> > > errors: No known data errors
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have 8 disks usable with 2x disks for parity.... if my understanding is
> > > correct.
> > Correct. One "parity drive" evenly (or close to evenly) spread over
> > the members in each raidz1 vdev.
> > 
> > I just realized having multiple zraidN vdevs reduces the time needed
> > for resilvering. Just don't make each vdev too small, i.e. with too
> > few drives.
> > 
> > As other's have told you, consider raidz2 or raidz3, as drives from
> > the same batch and with equal wear and tear, might fail more or less
> > simultaneously.

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My failure occured on a ports tree that was updated about 30 minutes ago 
via portsnap.

Charlie

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Erich Dollansky wrote:

> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:03:26 +0800
> From: Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>
> To: _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de>
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> Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: weird error messages with various ports
> 
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:49:19 +0100
> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
>>> lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
>>>> everything ok.
>>>
>>> do not worry to much about this.
>>>>
>>>> I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything
>>>> was just fine.
>>>>
>>> I do the same.
>>>
>>>> Until I did a
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo portsnap fetch update
>>>>
>>>> today and afterwards a
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo portmaster -aD
>>>>
>>> I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning but I
>>> used svn and portupgrade without any problems.
>>>
>>> How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?
>>
>> Three days old.
>>
> ok, get the latest one and try again. If it still does not work, I
> could give you the revision number of my working ports tree.
>
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Hi,

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:14:33 +0000 (UTC)
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> My failure occured on a ports tree that was updated about 30 minutes
> ago via portsnap.

can you try revision 341159?

It works for me.

Erich

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Hi,

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:10:12 +0100
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> > 
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:49:19 +0100
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> > 
> > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
> > > > lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am
> > > > > doing everything ok.
> > > > 
> > > > do not worry to much about this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and
> > > > > everything was just fine.
> > > > > 
> > > > I do the same.
> > > > 
> > > > > Until I did a
> > > > > 
> > > > > $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> > > > > 
> > > > > today and afterwards a
> > > > > 
> > > > > $ sudo portmaster -aD
> > > > > 
> > > > I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning
> > > > but I used svn and portupgrade without any problems.
> > > > 
> > > > How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?
> > > 
> > > Three days old. 
> > > 
> > ok, get the latest one and try again. If it still does not work, I
> > could give you the revision number of my working ports tree.
> 
> It still does not work. However, I do not have a revision number,
> IIUC, because I'm updating my ports with portsnap and not with svn,
> right? I might try to checkout ports anew and see whether that works
> then.

of course.

You might should consider to switch to svn and portupgrade. There is
one advantage of this pair. Portupgrade does not leave you with a
machine that cannot be used anymore. The worst case is that no port
gets upgraded but your machine still works. Svn has the advantage that
you can chose your port 'version' if the current revision does not work
for you.

Anyway, some other reported the same problem with a current ports tree.
I have the revision number 341159 in case of you want to try.

Erich


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Hi,

I just upgraded a server from 9.1-RELEASE -> 9.2-RELEASE
I noticed I get these about once every minute in /var/log/messages, as
well as to the console:

Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0: pass25,ses0: SAS Device Slot
Element: 1 Phys at Slot 23, Not All Phys
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 0: SAS device type 0 id 0
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 0: protocols: Initiator(
None ) Target( None )
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 0: parent 5001438017e2f4ff addr 0
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0: pass25,ses0: SAS Device Slot
Element: 1 Phys at Slot 24, Not All Phys
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 0: SAS device type 0 id 0
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 0: protocols: Initiator(
None ) Target( None )
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 0: parent 5001438017e2f4ff addr 0
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0: pass25,ses0: Element descriptor:
'900080050002'
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0: pass25,ses0: SAS Expander: 36
Physses0:  phy 0: connector 26 other 1
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 1: connector 27 other 2
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 2: connector 28 other 3
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 3: connector 29 other 4
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 4: connector 30 other 5
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 5: connector 31 other 6
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 6: connector 32 other 7
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 7: connector 33 other 8
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 8: connector 34 other 9
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 9: connector 35 other 10
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 10: connector 36 other 11
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 11: connector 37 other 12
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 12: connector 38 other 13
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 13: connector 39 other 14
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 14: connector 40 other 15
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 15: connector 41 other 16
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 16: connector 42 other 17
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 17: connector 43 other 18
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 18: connector 44 other 19
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 19: connector 45 other 20
Jan 27 13:26:11 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 20: connector 46 other 21
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 21: connector 47 other 22
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 22: connector 48 other 23
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 23: connector 49 other 24
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 24: connector 50 other 25
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 25: connector 59 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 26: connector 60 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 27: connector 61 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 28: connector 62 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 29: connector 63 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 30: connector 64 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 31: connector 65 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 32: connector 66 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 33: connector 255 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 34: connector 255 other 255
Jan 27 13:26:12 store01 kernel: ses0:  phy 35: connector 255 other 255

I suspect it has something to to with an LSI HBA I've installed on that box,

LSI SAS 9207-4i4e SGL

The card was installed and ran on the 9.1-RELEASE install, and ses
didn't post those messages then ...

Does anyone know if these messages are to worry about ? and how I may
stop them ?

The LSI card is connected via external sas to an MSA storage shelf
with 20 midline disks + 2 ssd disks + one sas disk.




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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:12:02 +0100 (CET)
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> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:42-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
> 
> > It would be really good if raidz could be expandable, ie by adding
> > extra 'new' disks into the same vdev.
> 
> It's there!
> 
> Try: zpool attach <pool_name> <existing_member> <new_member1>
> [new_member2 ...]

	No it is not - from man zpool:

=========================
      zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device

         Attaches new_device to an existing zpool device. The existing
device cannot be part of a raidz configuration.
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On 01/27/2014 12:12 PM, Trond Endrestøl wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:42-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
>
>> Many thanks everyone (Trond, Dennis, Steve)!!
>>
>> So RAIDz2 or 3 is going to be preferred per the advice given.
>>
>> Now I just need to figure out how to make that work best with my current 5
>> block of disks....  perhaps wait for a while then add some more disks in the
>> mix then create the raidz(x) platform??
>>
>> It would be really good if raidz could be expandable, ie by adding extra 'new'
>> disks into the same vdev.
> It's there!
>
> Try: zpool attach <pool_name> <existing_member> <new_member1> [new_member2 ...]
>
>

Yep, though of course as I'm just testing with temp files currently I 
was unable to make it work:

zpool attach test_pool /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk6
cannot attach /tmp/disk6 to /tmp/disk1: can only attach to mirrors and 
top-level disks

This is ok though as my block of 5 disks arrive tomorrow with the 
chassis arriving either tomorrow or day after that.


Does 'attaching' create a hybrid raidz2/3 + 1 array or am I confusing again?

Being familiar with raid 1 and 0, I know that the attach command will 
simply mirror a disk:

zpool attach <pool> disk1 disk2

would create a raid1 mirror between the disks... is this the same 
principle or does the command function differently in raidz?


Just checking out the man page gives this:

      zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device

          Attaches new_device to an existing zpool device. The existing 
device
          cannot be part of a raidz configuration. If device is not 
currently
          part of a mirrored configuration, device automatically transforms
          into a two-way mirror of device and new_device.  If device is 
part of
          a two-way mirror, attaching new_device creates a three-way mirror,
          and so on. In either case, new_device begins to resilver 
immediately.

-- unless things have been updated since my FBSD version?


Regards,


Kaya

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On 27/01/2014 04:22, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
> On 1/26/2014 6:20 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>> The rationale for bind removal from src/ I thought ill advised; it won't
>> suprise me if FreeBSD gets roasted for no longer being net server ready.
>
> The irony being that if you were at all serious about running mail, 
> DNS, NTP, etc., you used a port because the in-base versions were old 
> and could not be easily upgraded in the event of security problems.  
> This is one of many points made during the discussion on removing BIND 
> from the base.

Ah, but American's don't do irony.

I'm never going to steer this away from BIND and back to nslookup, and 
if you can't beat'em...

I think you're quite correct in pointing this out. The argument for 
keeping BIND as part of the base system is similar to the argument for 
including Apache or Samba. If you're running a server you're probably 
going to need one or other, or both; probably more than BIND. And while 
we're at it, how about replacing imapd and qpopper (anyone for a REAL 
security problem???) with Dovecot, and ftpd with PureFTP and....

So I'm actually okay with installing BIND from ports, as long as it works.

But these are all services. nslookup is a utility, normally found in 
/usr/bin (not /usr/local...). It's the only utility to have been removed 
from the system binary directories. I don't know if this is written 
somewhere in blood, but I've spent the last 30 years assuming anything 
in /bin and /usr/bin is going to be safe to use in scripts because it 
will always be there. I reckon history is on my side here!

Sendmail could be considered a bit dated too. Will that be next? If so, 
with "... | mail root" still work?

Regards, Frank.


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Hello,

We're busy to upgrade some machines from 8.2-RELEASE to 10-RELEASE.
I take this opportunity to migrate from NFSV3 to NFSV4.

Let's say I would like to allow NFSV4 _only_, in /etc/exports:
- is a single V4: line enough ?
- can I have multiple V4: lines ?
- are lines that don't begin with V4: also taken into account for NFSV4?

For the moment I have the following: https://dpaste.de/gLeZ but it
doesn't seems to work with that single V4: line ... (the mount works,
but ls returns nothing)

So basically I would like to export /usr/home with a V4: /exports and
/usr/home nullfs mounted under /exports/home

Any idea ? :) 

Thanks,
Julien

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:39-0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:

> =========================
>       zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device
> 
>          Attaches new_device to an existing zpool device. The existing
> device cannot be part of a raidz configuration.
> ==========================

My bad.

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Neither of these setups is ideal, The best practice for your vdev is to use
2^n + your parity drives
This means in your case with raidz3 you would do something

2 + 3
4 + 3
8 + 3

the 1st two are far from ideal as the ratios are low 8 + 3, so 11 drives
per raidz3 vdev would be optimal. This would fit nicely with your 26 drive
enclosure as you would use 2x11 drive raidz3 vdevs, 2 hot spares, and two
devices left for l2arc/zil. Probably best chop up the ssds, mirror the zil
and stripe the l2arc, assuming you dont want to do down the route using
generic SSD's rather than write/read optimized ones

the reason you want 2^n for data drives is that each block/record stands a
chance of being broken up into equal chunks and striped nice and neatly
across the drives.

9 drives would give bad numbers with raidz3, as any data would be / 6 so
128 / 6 =3D 21.33333.. not ideal. However for raidz 9 is fine as it gives y=
ou
8 data drives






On 27 January 2014 12:39, Kaya Saman <kayasaman@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 01/27/2014 12:12 PM, Trond Endrest=F8l wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:42-0000, Kaya Saman wrote:
>>
>>  Many thanks everyone (Trond, Dennis, Steve)!!
>>>
>>> So RAIDz2 or 3 is going to be preferred per the advice given.
>>>
>>> Now I just need to figure out how to make that work best with my curren=
t
>>> 5
>>> block of disks....  perhaps wait for a while then add some more disks i=
n
>>> the
>>> mix then create the raidz(x) platform??
>>>
>>> It would be really good if raidz could be expandable, ie by adding extr=
a
>>> 'new'
>>> disks into the same vdev.
>>>
>> It's there!
>>
>> Try: zpool attach <pool_name> <existing_member> <new_member1>
>> [new_member2 ...]
>>
>>
>>
> Yep, though of course as I'm just testing with temp files currently I was
> unable to make it work:
>
> zpool attach test_pool /tmp/disk1 /tmp/disk6
> cannot attach /tmp/disk6 to /tmp/disk1: can only attach to mirrors and
> top-level disks
>
> This is ok though as my block of 5 disks arrive tomorrow with the chassis
> arriving either tomorrow or day after that.
>
>
> Does 'attaching' create a hybrid raidz2/3 + 1 array or am I confusing
> again?
>
> Being familiar with raid 1 and 0, I know that the attach command will
> simply mirror a disk:
>
> zpool attach <pool> disk1 disk2
>
> would create a raid1 mirror between the disks... is this the same
> principle or does the command function differently in raidz?
>
>
> Just checking out the man page gives this:
>
>
>      zpool attach [-f] pool device new_device
>
>          Attaches new_device to an existing zpool device. The existing
> device
>          cannot be part of a raidz configuration. If device is not
> currently
>          part of a mirrored configuration, device automatically transform=
s
>          into a two-way mirror of device and new_device.  If device is
> part of
>          a two-way mirror, attaching new_device creates a three-way mirro=
r,
>          and so on. In either case, new_device begins to resilver
> immediately.
>
> -- unless things have been updated since my FBSD version?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Kaya
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> Sendmail could be considered a bit dated too. Will that be next?

There has been some talk about replacing it with something more
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>  If
> so, with "... | mail root" still work?

yes

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> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:10:12 +0100
> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
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> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:03:26PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:49:19 +0100
> > > _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
> > > > > lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am
> > > > > > doing everything ok.
> > > > > 
> > > > > do not worry to much about this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and
> > > > > > everything was just fine.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I do the same.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Until I did a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > today and afterwards a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > $ sudo portmaster -aD
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning
> > > > > but I used svn and portupgrade without any problems.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?
> > > > 
> > > > Three days old. 
> > > > 
> > > ok, get the latest one and try again. If it still does not work, I
> > > could give you the revision number of my working ports tree.
> > 
> > It still does not work. However, I do not have a revision number,
> > IIUC, because I'm updating my ports with portsnap and not with svn,
> > right? I might try to checkout ports anew and see whether that works
> > then.
> 
> of course.
> 
> You might should consider to switch to svn and portupgrade. There is
> one advantage of this pair. Portupgrade does not leave you with a
> machine that cannot be used anymore. The worst case is that no port
> gets upgraded but your machine still works. Svn has the advantage that
> you can chose your port 'version' if the current revision does not work
> for you.

Thanks for this advice. :)

That leads me to another question: Is there a way to do this while
preserving the configurations I made to the ports?

> Anyway, some other reported the same problem with a current ports tree.
> I have the revision number 341159 in case of you want to try.

I am giving it a try right away.

Christian.

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On 27/01/2014 13:29, RW wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:50:50 +0000
> Frank Leonhardt wrote:
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>
>> Sendmail could be considered a bit dated too. Will that be next?
> There has been some talk about replacing it with something more
> lightweight that would handle local mail (and possibly remote
> submission).
>
>
>>   If
>> so, with "... | mail root" still work?
> yes
>
I don't imagine anyone planned to break scripts when BIND was replaced 
either ;-) The law of unintended consequences applies.

Regards, Frank.


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Hi,

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:35:08 +0100
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> That leads me to another question: Is there a way to do this while
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if you have a normal installation, just move /use/ports
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You can then checkout the ports tree with svn.

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OK it seems to work with:

vfs.nfsd.server_min_nfsvers=4
vfs.nfsd.server_max_nfsvers=4

and:

V4: /exports -sec=sys -network 192.168.0.0/24
/exports/home -maproot=root: -network=192.168.0.0/24

I hope it's the way to go.. :)

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 02:00:59PM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We're busy to upgrade some machines from 8.2-RELEASE to 10-RELEASE.
> I take this opportunity to migrate from NFSV3 to NFSV4.
> 
> Let's say I would like to allow NFSV4 _only_, in /etc/exports:
> - is a single V4: line enough ?
> - can I have multiple V4: lines ?
> - are lines that don't begin with V4: also taken into account for NFSV4?
> 
> For the moment I have the following: https://dpaste.de/gLeZ but it
> doesn't seems to work with that single V4: line ... (the mount works,
> but ls returns nothing)
> 
> So basically I would like to export /usr/home with a V4: /exports and
> /usr/home nullfs mounted under /exports/home
> 
> Any idea ? :) 
> 
> Thanks,
> Julien
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> From:		Darren Pilgrim <list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com>
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> On 1/26/2014 6:20 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > The rationale for bind removal from src/ I thought ill advised; it won't
> > suprise me if FreeBSD gets roasted for no longer being net server ready.
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> The irony being that if you were at all serious about running mail, DNS, 
> NTP, etc., you used a port because the in-base versions were old and 
> could not be easily upgraded in the event of security problems.  This is 
> one of many points made during the discussion on removing BIND from the 
> base.

bind was in src/ from 4.4BSD_Lite to 9.2-RELEASE. No warning of pending
removal in a prior release.  Alternatives existed, but removal was forced
& botched, too late before release, (inconsistencies were still being
reported between src & ports very recently).  Lack of management & planning.

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Many thanks for the explanation :-)

On 01/27/2014 01:13 PM, krad wrote:
> Neither of these setups is ideal, The best practice for your vdev is 
> to use 2^n + your parity drives
> This means in your case with raidz3 you would do something
>
> 2 + 3
> 4 + 3
> 8 + 3
>
> the 1st two are far from ideal as the ratios are low 8 + 3, so 11 
> drives per raidz3 vdev would be optimal. This would fit nicely with 
> your 26 drive enclosure as you would use 2x11 drive raidz3 vdevs, 2 
> hot spares, and two devices left for l2arc/zil. Probably best chop up 
> the ssds, mirror the zil and stripe the l2arc, assuming you dont want 
> to do down the route using generic SSD's rather than write/read 
> optimized ones

Yep was going to use your suggestion for l2arc/zil on 2x 128GB Corsair 
Force Series GS, 2.5" which have quite good w/r speeds - also I use 
these on other servers which tend to be quite good and reliable.

I think the way to create a mirrored zil and stiped l2arc would be to 
use GPT to partition the drives, then use the zfs features across the 
partitions.


Hmm.... so it also looks like I'm gona have to wait a while for some 
more drives then in order to create an 11 disk raidz3 pool.


But at least things will be done properly and in a good manner rather 
then going down a patch with "no return".


>
>
Regards,


Kaya

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I know this a bit cheesy/arse-licky but, having installed the kde4
desktop -- and expecting to encounter many problems -- i'd just like to
say how impressed I am with it.

Everything works brilliantly and for the first time in ages I can use
all of my hardware without issues; webcam, printers, it's great.

So thanks to the people working on this. A really fantastic job I think.

Cheers, Jamie


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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM, James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com>wrote:

> I know this a bit cheesy/arse-licky but, having installed the kde4
> desktop -- and expecting to encounter many problems -- i'd just like to
> say how impressed I am with it.
>
> Everything works brilliantly and for the first time in ages I can use
> all of my hardware without issues; webcam, printers, it's great.
>
> So thanks to the people working on this. A really fantastic job I think.
>
> Cheers, Jamie
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Nice to hear that. Never been a KDE user myself though. I am curious about
your hardware, could you elaborate more about that? Is it a laptop or a
desktop? What kind of webcam? How is network management in KDE+FreeBSD
without NetworkManager? (not that I like NetworkManager particularly, but
are there specific KDE tools for network management on FreeBSD?)

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 09:44:40PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > That leads me to another question: Is there a way to do this while
> > preserving the configurations I made to the ports?
> > 
> if you have a normal installation, just move /use/ports
> to /usr/ports.whatever and create an empty /usr/ports.
> 
> You can then checkout the ports tree with svn.

I did just that. 

But it seems to me that I have now lost (aka 'it is in a different
copy of the ports tree) all the configuration changes I did to various
ports, like enabling patches in mail/mutt or which video drivers
x11/xorg should install... Is there a way to copy those from one copy
of a ports tree to another?

Or am I just overlooking something here? ;)

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:23:42PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:14:33 +0000 (UTC)
> Charlie <cwr@SDF.ORG> wrote:
> 
> > My failure occured on a ports tree that was updated about 30 minutes
> > ago via portsnap.
> 
> can you try revision 341159?

It works here, too. 

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Hi,

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:17:42 +0100
_1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 09:44:40PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > That leads me to another question: Is there a way to do this while
> > > preserving the configurations I made to the ports?
> > > 
> > if you have a normal installation, just move /use/ports
> > to /usr/ports.whatever and create an empty /usr/ports.
> > 
> > You can then checkout the ports tree with svn.
> 
> I did just that. 
> 
> But it seems to me that I have now lost (aka 'it is in a different
> copy of the ports tree) all the configuration changes I did to various
> ports, like enabling patches in mail/mutt or which video drivers
> x11/xorg should install... Is there a way to copy those from one copy
> of a ports tree to another?
> 
> Or am I just overlooking something here? ;)

you should have them in the other ports tree named /usr/ports.whatever

Erich

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use clang and gcc48(set CC and CXX in make.conf) get the same error.

===>  License GPLv2 accepted by the user
===>  Found saved configuration for tripwire-2.4.2.2_2
===>   tripwire-2.4.2.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
===> Fetching all distfiles required by tripwire-2.4.2.2_2 for building
===>  Extracting for tripwire-2.4.2.2_2
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for tripwire-2.4.2.2-src.tar.bz2.
===>  Patching for tripwire-2.4.2.2_2
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for tripwire-2.4.2.2_2
===>   tripwire-2.4.2.2_2 depends on executable: gmake - found
===>  Configuring for tripwire-2.4.2.2_2
===>   FreeBSD 10 autotools fix applied to
/data/port/ports/security/tripwire/work/tripwire-2.4.2.2-src/aclocal.m4
===>   FreeBSD 10 autotools fix applied to
/data/port/ports/security/tripwire/work/tripwire-2.4.2.2-src/configure
configure: loading site script /data/port/ports/Templates/config.site
checking build system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0
checking host system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0
checking target system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g
wheel
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... (cached) /usr/bin/awk
checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for gcc... cc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether cc accepts -g... yes
checking for cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking for style of include used by gmake... GNU
checking dependency style of cc... none
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
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checking dependency style of c++... none
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for bison... no
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checking for vi... /usr/bin/vi
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checking how to run the C preprocessor... cpp
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checking for memory.h... (cached) yes
checking for strings.h... (cached) yes
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configure: creating ./config.status
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config.status: creating src/tripwire/Makefile
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: executing depfiles commands
===>  Building for tripwire-2.4.2.2_2
gmake[2]: Entering directory
`/data/port/ports/security/tripwire/work/tripwire-2.4.2.2-src'
gmake[2]: *** No rule to make target `SYSPRE'.  Stop.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/data/port/ports/security/tripwire/work/tripwire-2.4.2.2-src'
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[1]: stopped in /data/port/ports/security/tripwire
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /data/port/ports/security/tripwire

Jov
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Is there some special sauce to get /var/run/dmesg.boot to be
populated with the boot time system messages?   Mine is empty
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:45:41PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:17:42 +0100
> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 09:44:40PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > That leads me to another question: Is there a way to do this while
> > > > preserving the configurations I made to the ports?
> > > > 
> > > if you have a normal installation, just move /use/ports
> > > to /usr/ports.whatever and create an empty /usr/ports.
> > > 
> > > You can then checkout the ports tree with svn.
> > 
> > I did just that. 
> > 
> > But it seems to me that I have now lost (aka 'it is in a different
> > copy of the ports tree) all the configuration changes I did to various
> > ports, like enabling patches in mail/mutt or which video drivers
> > x11/xorg should install... Is there a way to copy those from one copy
> > of a ports tree to another?
> > 
> > Or am I just overlooking something here? ;)
> 
> you should have them in the other ports tree named /usr/ports.whatever

Yes, I do. 

But imagine, I want to switch to the svn-style update of my ports tree
and ditch portsnap because of situations like today. Can I copy my configurations?

I hope you don't mind me asking.

Christian.

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On 2014-01-27, Fred Morcos <fred.morcos@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM, James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I know this a bit cheesy/arse-licky but, having installed the kde4
>> desktop -- and expecting to encounter many problems -- i'd just like to
>> say how impressed I am with it.
>>
>> Everything works brilliantly and for the first time in ages I can use
>> all of my hardware without issues; webcam, printers, it's great.
>>
>> So thanks to the people working on this. A really fantastic job I think.
>>
>> Cheers, Jamie

> Nice to hear that. Never been a KDE user myself though. I am curious about
> your hardware, could you elaborate more about that? Is it a laptop or a
> desktop? What kind of webcam? How is network management in KDE+FreeBSD
> without NetworkManager? (not that I like NetworkManager particularly, but
> are there specific KDE tools for network management on FreeBSD?)

I use a desktop. It's a Lenovo Think Centre, bought it about 3 years
ago. Very standard machine: Dual-Core Pentium processor, Intel Chipset,
Logitech webcam, canon iP4700 printer (cups+gutenprint driver).

I haven't needed to do anything with the network configuration. It was
configured automatically and has been fine. A brief look at what's
installed shows no particular network management tools to speak off,
although there may well be other pkg's one can install for that. 

As you would expect I had to set up devd but that is simple and fast to
do. 


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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:31 PM, James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2014-01-27, Fred Morcos <fred.morcos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM, James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I know this a bit cheesy/arse-licky but, having installed the kde4
> >> desktop -- and expecting to encounter many problems -- i'd just like to
> >> say how impressed I am with it.
> >>
> >> Everything works brilliantly and for the first time in ages I can use
> >> all of my hardware without issues; webcam, printers, it's great.
> >>
> >> So thanks to the people working on this. A really fantastic job I think.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Jamie
>
> > Nice to hear that. Never been a KDE user myself though. I am curious
> about
> > your hardware, could you elaborate more about that? Is it a laptop or a
> > desktop? What kind of webcam? How is network management in KDE+FreeBSD
> > without NetworkManager? (not that I like NetworkManager particularly, but
> > are there specific KDE tools for network management on FreeBSD?)
>
> I use a desktop. It's a Lenovo Think Centre, bought it about 3 years
> ago. Very standard machine: Dual-Core Pentium processor, Intel Chipset,
> Logitech webcam, canon iP4700 printer (cups+gutenprint driver).
>
> I haven't needed to do anything with the network configuration. It was
> configured automatically and has been fine. A brief look at what's
> installed shows no particular network management tools to speak off,
> although there may well be other pkg's one can install for that.
>
> As you would expect I had to set up devd but that is simple and fast to
> do.
>

Thanks for your response. May I ask what devd setup you had to do?

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Hi,

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 16:25:58 +0100
_1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:

> > > Or am I just overlooking something here? ;)
> > 
> > you should have them in the other ports tree
> > named /usr/ports.whatever
> 
> Yes, I do. 
> 
> But imagine, I want to switch to the svn-style update of my ports tree
> and ditch portsnap because of situations like today. Can I copy my
> configurations?

svn has a feature for this I never use. Just check the manual.
> 
> I hope you don't mind me asking.

Isn't this the idea behind this list?

Erich

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Look into under provisioning the SSD drives as well, this can preserve
write performance in the long term and decrease write wear. Looking at the
number of drives, and general spec of what you are putting together, I
would try to stretch to 256 GB ssd but only provision them to use say
128-160 GB of the capacity.

I'm not 100% sure this is still all necessary now as TRIM support is much
better now under zfs but here is how i did my ssd drives under linux. You
may well be able to do it under freebsd but I havent figured out how.

root@ubuntu-10-10:~# hdparm -N /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:
 max sectors   = 312581808/312581808, HPA is disabled

root@ubuntu-10-10:~# hdparm -Np281323627 /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:
 setting max visible sectors to 281323627 (permanent)
Use of -Nnnnnn is VERY DANGEROUS.
You have requested reducing the apparent size of the drive.
This is a BAD idea, and can easily destroy all of the drive's contents.
Please supply the --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing flag if you really want this.
Program aborted.

root@ubuntu-10-10:~# hdparm -Np281323627 --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing /dev/sdb

/dev/sdb:
 setting max visible sectors to 281323627 (permanent)
 max sectors   = 281323627/312581808, HPA is enabled

root@ubuntu-10-10:~#



On 27 January 2014 13:56, Kaya Saman <kayasaman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Many thanks for the explanation :-)
>
>
> On 01/27/2014 01:13 PM, krad wrote:
>
>> Neither of these setups is ideal, The best practice for your vdev is to
>> use 2^n + your parity drives
>> This means in your case with raidz3 you would do something
>>
>> 2 + 3
>> 4 + 3
>> 8 + 3
>>
>> the 1st two are far from ideal as the ratios are low 8 + 3, so 11 drives
>> per raidz3 vdev would be optimal. This would fit nicely with your 26 drive
>> enclosure as you would use 2x11 drive raidz3 vdevs, 2 hot spares, and two
>> devices left for l2arc/zil. Probably best chop up the ssds, mirror the zil
>> and stripe the l2arc, assuming you dont want to do down the route using
>> generic SSD's rather than write/read optimized ones
>>
>
> Yep was going to use your suggestion for l2arc/zil on 2x 128GB Corsair
> Force Series GS, 2.5" which have quite good w/r speeds - also I use these
> on other servers which tend to be quite good and reliable.
>
> I think the way to create a mirrored zil and stiped l2arc would be to use
> GPT to partition the drives, then use the zfs features across the
> partitions.
>
>
> Hmm.... so it also looks like I'm gona have to wait a while for some more
> drives then in order to create an 11 disk raidz3 pool.
>
>
> But at least things will be done properly and in a good manner rather then
> going down a patch with "no return".
>
>
>
>>
>>  Regards,
>
>
> Kaya
>

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Many thanks I really appreciate the advice :-)


Best Regards,


Kaya



On 01/27/2014 04:52 PM, krad wrote:
> Look into under provisioning the SSD drives as well, this can preserve 
> write performance in the long term and decrease write wear. Looking at 
> the number of drives, and general spec of what you are putting 
> together, I would try to stretch to 256 GB ssd but only provision them 
> to use say 128-160 GB of the capacity.
>
> I'm not 100% sure this is still all necessary now as TRIM support is 
> much better now under zfs but here is how i did my ssd drives under 
> linux. You may well be able to do it under freebsd but I havent 
> figured out how.
>
> root@ubuntu-10-10:~# hdparm -N /dev/sdb
>
> /dev/sdb:
>   max sectors   = 312581808/312581808, HPA is disabled
>
> root@ubuntu-10-10:~# hdparm -Np281323627 /dev/sdb
>
> /dev/sdb:
>   setting max visible sectors to 281323627 (permanent)
> Use of -Nnnnnn is VERY DANGEROUS.
> You have requested reducing the apparent size of the drive.
> This is a BAD idea, and can easily destroy all of the drive's contents.
> Please supply the --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing flag if you really want this.
> Program aborted.
>
> root@ubuntu-10-10:~# hdparm -Np281323627 --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing /dev/sdb
>
> /dev/sdb:
>   setting max visible sectors to 281323627 (permanent)
>   max sectors   = 281323627/312581808, HPA is enabled
>
> root@ubuntu-10-10:~#
>
>
> On 27 January 2014 13:56, Kaya Saman <kayasaman@gmail.com 
> <mailto:kayasaman@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Many thanks for the explanation :-)
>
>
>     On 01/27/2014 01:13 PM, krad wrote:
>
>         Neither of these setups is ideal, The best practice for your
>         vdev is to use 2^n + your parity drives
>         This means in your case with raidz3 you would do something
>
>         2 + 3
>         4 + 3
>         8 + 3
>
>         the 1st two are far from ideal as the ratios are low 8 + 3, so
>         11 drives per raidz3 vdev would be optimal. This would fit
>         nicely with your 26 drive enclosure as you would use 2x11
>         drive raidz3 vdevs, 2 hot spares, and two devices left for
>         l2arc/zil. Probably best chop up the ssds, mirror the zil and
>         stripe the l2arc, assuming you dont want to do down the route
>         using generic SSD's rather than write/read optimized ones
>
>
>     Yep was going to use your suggestion for l2arc/zil on 2x 128GB
>     Corsair Force Series GS, 2.5" which have quite good w/r speeds -
>     also I use these on other servers which tend to be quite good and
>     reliable.
>
>     I think the way to create a mirrored zil and stiped l2arc would be
>     to use GPT to partition the drives, then use the zfs features
>     across the partitions.
>
>
>     Hmm.... so it also looks like I'm gona have to wait a while for
>     some more drives then in order to create an 11 disk raidz3 pool.
>
>
>     But at least things will be done properly and in a good manner
>     rather then going down a patch with "no return".
>
>
>
>
>     Regards,
>
>
>     Kaya
>
>


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I just replaced mobo/CPU on FBSD server (Gigabyte Z-87-D3HP with
an Intel i3-4130).  I am not overclocking an have set vcore up to
1.4V but I continue to see this sort of thing:

MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error

Dmesg shows:

MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 0
MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error
MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005
MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c07, Status 0x0000000000000000


Is this benign?  Is there a way to correct it?

The machine does seem to be running OK but this worries me...

TIA.
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>wrote:

> I just replaced mobo/CPU on FBSD server (Gigabyte Z-87-D3HP with
> an Intel i3-4130).  I am not overclocking an have set vcore up to
> 1.4V but I continue to see this sort of thing:
>
> MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error
>
> Dmesg shows:
>
> MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 0
> MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error
> MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005
> MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c07, Status 0x0000000000000000
>
>
> Is this benign?  Is there a way to correct it?
>
> The machine does seem to be running OK but this worries me...
>

I think sysutils/mcelog can tell you more about it.  The MCE issues I have
seen aren't benign

-- 
Adam

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Good morning!

Since a few days my Macmini 6.1 is running on FreeBSD 10.0 (yeah, and 
FreeBSD alone)! Unfortunately, it does not (yet) produce any sound, and I 
really need help on this. I followed the handbook and it looks like, 
driver snd_hda is used. [CMD=" "]dmesg | grep hda[/CMD] gives the output 
shown below. Soundcard seems to be Cirrus Logic CS4206.
    I tried the following steps:
- Find a specific driver for this sound card: Nothing.
- Turn volume up with [CMD=" "]mixer pcm 100 vol 100[/CMD]. Still nothing 
to hear.
- Change the value of hw.snd.default_unit to 0,1,2. No effect.
    Has anybody a good idea how to proceed?
    Don't know, whether the following is relevant: [CMD=" "]kldload 
snd_driver[/CMD] gives 6 times "ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range". When 
booting, I get this message once.

Best regards,
Volker


dmseg | grep hda gives:

hdac0: <Intel Panther Point HDA Controller> mem 0xa0710000-0xa0713fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdacc0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
hdaa0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
pcm0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog)> at nid 11 and 12 on hdaa0
pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa0
pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog Headphones)> at nid 10 on hdaa0
hdacc1: <Intel Panther Point HDA CODEC> at cad 3 on hdac0
hdaa1: <Intel Panther Point Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (6) in association 1! Disabling association.
hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (7) in association 1! Disabling association.
hdac0: <Intel Panther Point HDA Controller> mem 0xa0710000-0xa0713fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdacc0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
hdaa0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
pcm0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog)> at nid 11 and 12 on hdaa0
pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa0
pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog Headphones)> at nid 10 on hdaa0
hdacc1: <Intel Panther Point HDA CODEC> at cad 3 on hdac0
hdaa1: <Intel Panther Point Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (6) in association 1! Disabling association.
hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (7) in association 1! Disabling association.

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:56:34 +0100 (CET), Volker Nebel stated:

> Since a few days my Macmini 6.1 is running on FreeBSD 10.0 (yeah, and 
> FreeBSD alone)! Unfortunately, it does not (yet) produce any sound,
> and I really need help on this. I followed the handbook and it looks
> like, driver snd_hda is used. [CMD=" "]dmesg | grep hda[/CMD] gives
> the output shown below. Soundcard seems to be Cirrus Logic CS4206.
>     I tried the following steps:
> - Find a specific driver for this sound card: Nothing.
> - Turn volume up with [CMD=" "]mixer pcm 100 vol 100[/CMD]. Still
> nothing to hear.
> - Change the value of hw.snd.default_unit to 0,1,2. No effect.
>     Has anybody a good idea how to proceed?
>     Don't know, whether the following is relevant: [CMD=" "]kldload 
> snd_driver[/CMD] gives 6 times "ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range".
> When booting, I get this message once.

Dumb question perhaps, but did you ever have sound working on the unit?
I had a similar situation on a PC running MS Windows. One day there was
just no sound. It turned out the sound card had burnt out.

-- 
Jerry

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I am trying to upgrade ruby-1.9.3.484,1 to ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1 (using portupgrade) but am getting the following compiler error on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE:

===>  Building for ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1
make[2]: don't know how to make OPENSSL_CFLAGS. Stop

Is there a workaround, or have I missed something?


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On Monday 27 January 2014 21:56:34 Volker Nebel wrote:
> Good morning!
> 
> Since a few days my Macmini 6.1 is running on FreeBSD 10.0 (yeah, and 
> FreeBSD alone)! Unfortunately, it does not (yet) produce any sound, and I 
> really need help on this. I followed the handbook and it looks like, 
> driver snd_hda is used. [CMD=" "]dmesg | grep hda[/CMD] gives the output 
> shown below. Soundcard seems to be Cirrus Logic CS4206.
>     I tried the following steps:
> - Find a specific driver for this sound card: Nothing.
> - Turn volume up with [CMD=" "]mixer pcm 100 vol 100[/CMD]. Still nothing 
> to hear.
> - Change the value of hw.snd.default_unit to 0,1,2. No effect.
>     Has anybody a good idea how to proceed?
>     Don't know, whether the following is relevant: [CMD=" "]kldload 
> snd_driver[/CMD] gives 6 times "ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range". When 
> booting, I get this message once.
> 
> Best regards,
> Volker
> 
> 
> dmseg | grep hda gives:
> 
> hdac0: <Intel Panther Point HDA Controller> mem 0xa0710000-0xa0713fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
> hdacc0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
> hdaa0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
> pcm0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog)> at nid 11 and 12 on hdaa0
> pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa0
> pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog Headphones)> at nid 10 on hdaa0
> hdacc1: <Intel Panther Point HDA CODEC> at cad 3 on hdac0
> hdaa1: <Intel Panther Point Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
> hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (6) in association 1! Disabling association.
> hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (7) in association 1! Disabling association.
> hdac0: <Intel Panther Point HDA Controller> mem 0xa0710000-0xa0713fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
> hdacc0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
> hdaa0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
> pcm0: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog)> at nid 11 and 12 on hdaa0
> pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa0
> pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog Headphones)> at nid 10 on hdaa0
> hdacc1: <Intel Panther Point HDA CODEC> at cad 3 on hdac0
> hdaa1: <Intel Panther Point Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
> hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (6) in association 1! Disabling association.
> hdaa1: hdaa_audio_as_parse: Duplicate pin 0 (7) in association 1! Disabling association.
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I don't know if will help you but anyway
I have iMac 11,1 and:
cat /dev/sndstat
Installed devices:
pcm0: <ATI R6xx (HDMI)> (play)
pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog 4.0+HP/2.0)> (play/rec) default
pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog Line-in)> (rec)
pcm3: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital)> (play/rec

I did play with hint and on my computer works:
/boot/loader,conf:
hint.hdaa.1.gpio_config="3=set"
hint.hdaa.1.nid9.config="as=4 seq=15"

After the first one I got sound through internal speakers but not headphones. Than I add the second one and I got sound through headphones but at the same time as through speakers.

I hope that will help you too.

And mine dmesg |grep hda:
dmesg |grep hda
hdac0: <ATI RV770 HDA Controller> mem 0xd0630000-0xd0633fff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1
hdac1: <Intel 5 Series/3400 Series HDA Controller> mem 0xd0700000-0xd0703fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdacc0: <ATI R6xx HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
hdaa0: <ATI R6xx Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
pcm0: <ATI R6xx (HDMI)> at nid 3 on hdaa0
hdacc1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac1
hdaa1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog 4.0+HP/2.0)> at nid 10,11,9 and 13 on hdaa1
pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog Line-in)> at nid 12 on hdaa1
pcm3: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa1
hdac0: <ATI RV770 HDA Controller> mem 0xd0630000-0xd0633fff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1
hdac1: <Intel 5 Series/3400 Series HDA Controller> mem 0xd0700000-0xd0703fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdacc0: <ATI R6xx HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
hdaa0: <ATI R6xx Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
pcm0: <ATI R6xx (HDMI)> at nid 3 on hdaa0
hdacc1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac1
hdaa1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog 4.0+HP/2.0)> at nid 10,11,9 and 13 on hdaa1
pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog Line-in)> at nid 12 on hdaa1
pcm3: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa1
hdac0: <ATI RV770 HDA Controller> mem 0xd0630000-0xd0633fff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1
hdac1: <Intel 5 Series/3400 Series HDA Controller> mem 0xd0700000-0xd0703fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdacc0: <ATI R6xx HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
hdaa0: <ATI R6xx Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
pcm0: <ATI R6xx (HDMI)> at nid 3 on hdaa0
hdacc1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac1
hdaa1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog 4.0+HP/2.0)> at nid 10,11,9 and 13 on hdaa1
pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog Line-in)> at nid 12 on hdaa1
pcm3: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa1
hdac0: <ATI RV770 HDA Controller> mem 0xd0630000-0xd0633fff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1
hdac1: <Intel 5 Series/3400 Series HDA Controller> mem 0xd0700000-0xd0703fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdacc0: <ATI R6xx HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac0
hdaa0: <ATI R6xx Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc0
pcm0: <ATI R6xx (HDMI)> at nid 3 on hdaa0
hdacc1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 HDA CODEC> at cad 0 on hdac1
hdaa1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 Audio Function Group> at nid 1 on hdacc1
pcm1: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Analog 4.0+HP/2.0)> at nid 10,11,9 and 13 on hdaa1
pcm2: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Analog Line-in)> at nid 12 on hdaa1
pcm3: <Cirrus Logic CS4206 (Rear Digital)> at nid 16 and 15 on hdaa1


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> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Kata Goto wrote:
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>  Hello all,
>>
>> I recently (this week), recieved a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 and I want to
>> install FreeBSD, so I have disabled the secure boot and force the legacy
>> boot mode only.
>> Then I have downloaded an USB image and write it via
>>    $ dd if=FreeBSD-9.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=64k
>>
>> (I also tried with 10.0-RELEASE)
>> And my laptop refuses to boot on it, even if I force to boot on it (via
>> <F12>).
>> My USB key works well on other computers (they boot on it) and my laptop
>> boots well on an Ubuntu USB key.
>> I have also tried to boot on an external CD Drive, but nothing change :/
>>
>> I am running out of ideas.
>> If you have the same issue or new ideas, please, let me know.
>>
>
> The USB image uses a bare BSDlabel, aka "dangerously dedicated", meaning
> there is no MBR at all.  Some versions of Thinkpad firmware had strange
> misconceptions about disk formats.  A CD could boot fine, being a more
> common format.  Make certain the Thinkpad firmware is the latest version,
> and the USB image might work.
>
> Some work with gpart and dd might be able to convert the USB image to an
> MBR/BSDlabel format which would boot.
>
> Or the problem might not be related to the bare BSDlabel, but that it
> works on everything but the Thinkpad make it a good guess.
>


Thanks,

In fact I have to enable the UEFI USB Boot setting :/

Thanks for all.

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Hello,

I have the same problem on all HP dc7800 / dc7900 desktops of my university.

2014-01-25 Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>:
> Some work with gpart and dd might be able to convert the USB image to an
> MBR/BSDlabel format which would boot.

As Warren suggested, some work with gpart / dd can resolve the problem :
# dd if=/dev/da0a of=bsd-install.dd bs=4M
# gpart destroy -F da0
# gpart create -s mbr da0
# gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr da0
# gpart add -t freebsd da0
# gpart set -a active -i 1 da0
# gpart create -s bsd da0s1
# gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot da0s1
# gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k da0s1
# dd if=bsd-install.dd of=/dev/da0s1a bs=4M
# mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt
# echo "/dev/da0s1a / ufs ro,noatime 1 1" > /mnt/etc/fstab
# umount /mnt

It worked for me. I hope it will work for you too.

-- 
Nicolas

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 23:27:55 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:
> On 01/26/14 22:05, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:51:54 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:
> 
> >> 2. If I print it using
> >>      /usr/local/bin/lpr duplex.ps
> >>    it comes out with the duplexed page upside down.
> > 
> > This will use CUPS's settings which may add a "preample"
> > of PS to the printer to reflect those settings, for example
> > which "duplexing manner" (long or short edge "wrap") will
> > be used.
> 
> Except that in this case the %cupsJobsTicket: comment should
> instruct it to use long-edge duplexing, which should override
> any cups default.  The default for this printer is no-duplex,
> so if it overrides it shouldn't duplex at all.

Yes, "should", but the reality of complex software teaches that
in many cases, things don't work as they should. :-)

It would be required to capture the "postprocessed" PS that
CUPS sends to the printer to be sure about what _exactly_ will
be sent to the printer. Sometimes printers themselves can
change things (duplex on/off, short/long edge etc.).



> > To find out if those settings exist, open a web browser (bah)
> > and go to http://localhost:631 where you can find the CUPS
> > administration web pages. Check your printer's settings
> > carefully. (I know there's also a lpadmin tool, but haven't
> > bothered learning it because I tend to avoid CUPS whenever
> > possible, because when you have a PS-capable printer, it's
> > probably just useless overhead.)
> 
> Checked that already, and it is set by default to not duplex.
> So presumably its preamble would not change the duplexing.
> But the document itself has embedded duplexing along the long
> edge.  Why would that result in the short-edge behavior?

The wonder of modern software. :-)

No, honestly: If you already have a good printer that can
understand PS, and you don't require a _specific_ CUPS-only
feature, I'd suggest to get rid of CUPS and use the system's
printer spooler. You'll probably don't need any printer filter
here.



> >> If I create a simple 2 page document in openoffice,
> >> when printing from openoffice, I see the following:
> >>
> >> 3. If printed duplexed direct from OO, duplexed pages are upside down.
> > 
> > As expected.
> 
> Why?  Default is no duplex, but I turned long edge duplex on
> in the print dialog.

Strange case of conflicting pre- and postprocessing maybe?
PS content changes and precedence?



> >> 4. If printed to a pdf file and /usr/bin/lpr is used on the pdf, 
> >>    no duplexing occurs -- I get two separate sheets.
> > 
> > This could be explained by the way OO generates PDF and how
> > the printer filters turn that into PS. Or if your printer is
> > also capable of speaking PDF (directly), no mentioning that
> > it should use duplex is in the PDF input. 
> 
> ok, at least that part makes sense.  /usr/bin/lpr will ignore the 
> $cupsJobTicket: statement.

Correct. It will send the PS _as is_ to the printer and let it
deal with the PS content, which is defined by the PS interpreter's
implementation "inside the printer".



> >>From your PS source:
> > 
> >> %cupsJobTicket: media=Letter sides=two-sided-long-edge
> > 
> > There's also two-sided-short-edge (corresponding to the setting
> > accessible via localhost:631).
> 
> That's what I don't understand.
> It says two-sided-long-edge.  Why would it be performing as if
> it said two-sided-short-edge?

I'd imagine that there's a conflicting setting somewhere in the
CUPS configuration. Instead of manually searching through the
web interface, you could also search for options related to
"duplex", "edge", or "tumble" in /usr/local/etc/cups in the
configuration files and maybe the PPDs employed. For example,
the string "*DefaultDuplex: DuplexNoTumble" looks promising.
There are other entries related to that concept.


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I am running 9.2 stable i386 r261207.  As noted earlier:

>I just replaced mobo/CPU on FBSD server (Gigabyte Z-87-D3HP with
>an Intel i3-4130).  I am not overclocking ...  but I continue to see this sort of thing:

>MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error

Dmesg shows:

>MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 0
>MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error
>MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005
>MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c07, Status 0x0000000000000000_

I've swapped CPUs (i5). I've fiddled with an endless supply of
mobo settings. I've switched power supplies.  I've moved mem
sticks around ....   No joy.

So, I dug through the sources and found this:



mca_log(const struct mca_record *rec)
{
         uint16_t mca_error;

         printf("MCA: Bank %d, Status 0x%016llx\n", rec->mr_bank,
             (long long)rec->mr_status);
         printf("MCA: Global Cap 0x%016llx, Status 0x%016llx\n",
             (long long)rec->mr_mcg_cap, (long long)rec->mr_mcg_status);
         printf("MCA: Vendor \"%s\", ID 0x%x, APIC ID %d\n", cpu_vendor,
             rec->mr_cpu_id, rec->mr_apic_id);
         printf("MCA: CPU %d ", rec->mr_cpu);
         if (rec->mr_status & MC_STATUS_UC)
                 printf("UNCOR ");
         else {
                 printf("COR ");
                 if (rec->mr_mcg_cap & MCG_CAP_CMCI_P)
                         printf("(%lld) ", ((long long)rec->mr_status &
                             MC_STATUS_COR_COUNT) >> 38);
         }


It looks like the trailing else clause is kicking out the error but I am
unclear what the error means, beyond the fact that it appears to be a parity
error somewhere within the CPU's internal memory (cache?).  Is this error
getting corrected?  Is this benign, Should I get a different mobo?

Um .... Haaaaalp :)


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On 27 January 2014, at 16:59, kpneal@pobox.com wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:41:32AM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote:
>> I have a process that is occasionally giving me a situation that I =
don't understand.  It listens to a well-known port and processes =
requests received on that report.  It does return data to the calling =
system.  When a request is received, a child process is created that =
actually does most of the work.  The child process uses another process =
via a pipe during the processing to obtain some data it uses.
>>=20
>> Occasionally, the main process exits with nothing logged.  I suspect =
its doing an exit, but thats just a guess at this time.  Some of the =
time (fairly infrequently), the main process cannot be restarted.  The =
process at the end of the pipe is now shown as having the port open.  =
lsof shows that.  If I restart that process, then the main process can =
be restarted properly.
>>=20
>> Why would the process at the end of the pipe end up being attached to =
the port?  Unfortunately, the system always seems to be quiet (no =
requests in process) when this happens so nothing is logged by any =
process.  Normally I have a monitoring process that detects the main =
process being gone and restarts it.  But that doesn't work when the port =
is held by the final process.
>=20
> It sounds like the process at the end of the pipe has inherited the =
network
> ports that are open in the parent at the time the process is created.
>=20
> When using fork() the child process has all the same open files =
(including
> network connections and ports) as the parent. And after using one of =
the
> exec family of functions the child process _still_ has all the open =
files
> it had before the exec.
>=20
> Good housekeeping is in order when creating child processes. Before =
doing
> the exec of the program at the end of the pipe that process should =
close
> all files that are not needed by the pipe-writing-program.

That appears to be a reasonable explanation.  I don't know if I have =
access to all the source, but I will see if I  can trace that out.  =
Thanks.


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During my upgrade from 9.2-RELEASE to 10.0-RELEASE the ports tree was 
broken [0]. This upset the standard freebsd-update major release upgrade 
process [1]: at the portmaster -f point, most builds failed due to the 
STAGEDIR debacle. By the time the ports tree was fixed and I was able to 
successfully reinstall all ports, the final freebsd-update install 
command returned the message that there was nothing to do. I rebooted 
and thought nothing of it. A couple days later, I've tried to update 
lang/php55 and all lang/php55-extensions to 5.5.8 (from 5.5.7); PHP 
successfully updated but all extensions are failing due to missing
libraries:


/usr/ports/lang/php55-extensions # make install clean
===>  Found saved configuration for php55-extensions-1.8
===>   php55-extensions-1.8 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
===> Fetching all distfiles required by php55-extensions-1.8 for building
===>  Extracting for php55-extensions-1.8
===>  Patching for php55-extensions-1.8
===>   php55-extensions-1.8 depends on file:
/usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found
!---------------------------------[ highlight 
]---------------------------------!
===>   php55-extensions-1.8 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/php/20121212/bz2.so - not found
!--------------------------------------[/]--------------------------------------!
===>    Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20121212/bz2.so in
/usr/ports/archivers/php55-bz2
===>  Staging for php55-bz2-5.5.8
===>   php55-bz2-5.5.8 depends on file:
/usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found
===>   Generating temporary packing list
!---------------------------------[ highlight 
]---------------------------------!
install:
/var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/archivers/php55-bz2/work/php-5.5.8/ext/bz2/modules/bz2.so: 

No such file or directory
*** [do-install] Error code 71
!--------------------------------------[/]--------------------------------------!


I am running into the same problem on both systems that I upgraded from 
9.2-RELEASE [2].

How do I fix this?

Thanks.



[0] r340369
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=340369

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/installation.html
freebsd-update fetch
freebsd-update install
freebsd-update -r 10.0-RELEASE upgrade
freebsd-update install
reboot
freebsd-update install
portmaster -f
freebsd-update install
reboot

[2] uname -a
FreeBSD idhs 10.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE #0 r260789: Thu Jan 16 
22:34:59 UTC 2014 root@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD scif 10.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE #0 r260789: Fri Jan 17 
01:46:25 UTC 2014 root@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386


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Hi Walter!

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:44:44PM +0000, Walter Hurry wrote:
> I am trying to upgrade ruby-1.9.3.484,1 to ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1 (using port=
upgrade) but am getting the following compiler error on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEAS=
E:
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D>  Building for ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1
> make[2]: don't know how to make OPENSSL_CFLAGS. Stop
>=20
> Is there a workaround, or have I missed something?

Apparently, it's not only lang/ruby19. See thread "weird error
messages with various ports" from yesterday. The ports/some ports
seems to be messed up. I don't know what happened.

If you happen to use ports with svn, you could use revision
341159. This one worked for me. I did not check whether any updates to
the ports tree resolved the issue, but I assume you used the latest
one, so I guess it ain't resolved yet.

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Hello.

I updated FreeBSD from 9.2 to 10 and reinstalled all the ports (using
portupgrade, no pkg).

Now I have a problem with pecl-APC. With about 50% probability I get error
500 from apache instead of the page.

Disabling APC extension seems to solve the problem, but I need it. Does
anyone know a solution?

I have this in /var/log/httpd-error.log:
(pid 20018) terminated due to uncaught signal '10' (Bus error)

And this in virtual host's log:
FastCGI: incomplete headers (0 bytes) received from server

APC-related settings in php.ini:
apc.shm_size = 128M
apc.mmap_file_mask=/dev/zero

And sysctl.conf:
kern.ipc.shmmax=1073741824
kern.ipc.shmall=262144

Versions:
apache22-worker-mpm-2.2.26
php5-5.4.24
pecl-APC-3.1.14_1 (which is 3.1.13 actually according to SVN log)

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:44:44PM +0000, Walter Hurry wrote:
> I am trying to upgrade ruby-1.9.3.484,1 to ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1 (using portupgrade) but am getting the following compiler error on FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE:
> 
> ===>  Building for ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1
> make[2]: don't know how to make OPENSSL_CFLAGS. Stop
> 
> Is there a workaround, or have I missed something?

I just tried the latest svn revision (341124) and lang/ruby19 compiles
just fine. Maybe you only need to update your ports tree to the very
latest.

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:05:19PM +0100, lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am doing
> everything ok.
> 
> I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and everything was
> just fine.
> 
> Until I did a
> 
> $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> 
> today and afterwards a
> 
> $ sudo portmaster -aD
> 
> which told me that it wanted to update lang/ruby19. I confirmed its
> wish and it started making this port. After a couple of seconds it
> failed with the following error message:
> 
> ruby library version = 1.9
> configure: creating ./config.status
> config.status: creating Makefile
> config.status: creating ruby-1.9.pc
> ===>  Building for ruby-1.9.3.484_1,1
> make[2]: don't know how to make OPENSSL_CFLAGS. Stop
> 
> make[2]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ruby19/work/ruby-1.9.3-p484
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/ruby19
> *** Error code 1
> 
> I did some research but could not find anything. I tried to rebuild
> security/openssl, which failed with the following error message:
> 
> generating dummy tests (if needed)...
> 
> Since you've disabled or enabled at least one algorithm, you need to do
> the following before building:
> 
> 	make depend
> 
> Configured for BSD-x86_64.
> /usr/bin/sed -i.bak  -e 's|^MANDIR=.*$|MANDIR=$(MANPREFIX)/man|'  -e  
> 's|$(LIBDIR)/pkgconfig|libdata/pkgconfig|g'  -e 's|LIBVERSION=[^ ]*  
> |LIBVERSION=8 |'   
> /usr/ports/security/openssl/work/openssl-1.0.1f/Makefile
> ===>  Building for openssl-1.0.1_9
> make[2]: don't know how to make WHOLE_ARCHIVE_FLAG. Stop
> 
> make[2]: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl/work/openssl-1.0.1f
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> make: stopped in /usr/ports/security/openssl
> 
> I tried some other ports, too, like mail/mutt, which fails during the  
> build of www/lynx ("don't know how to make helpdir") ... One port did  
> work, though, lang/go.
> 
> What is going on here? Has my make environment some sort of amnesia?
> 
> Thanks for help in advance!
> 
> I'm happy to provide more information if needed.


For the record: with the latest svn revision (341124), at least
lang/ruby19 compiles just fine again.

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> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:10:12 +0100
> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:03:26PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:49:19 +0100
> > > _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
> > > > > lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am
> > > > > > doing everything ok.
> > > > > 
> > > > > do not worry to much about this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and
> > > > > > everything was just fine.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I do the same.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Until I did a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > $ sudo portsnap fetch update
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > today and afterwards a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > $ sudo portmaster -aD
> > > > > > 
> > > > > I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning
> > > > > but I used svn and portupgrade without any problems.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?
> > > > 
> > > > Three days old. 
> > > > 
> > > ok, get the latest one and try again. If it still does not work, I
> > > could give you the revision number of my working ports tree.
> > 
> > It still does not work. However, I do not have a revision number,
> > IIUC, because I'm updating my ports with portsnap and not with svn,
> > right? I might try to checkout ports anew and see whether that works
> > then.
> 
> of course.
> 
> You might should consider to switch to svn and portupgrade. There is
> one advantage of this pair. Portupgrade does not leave you with a
> machine that cannot be used anymore. The worst case is that no port
> gets upgraded but your machine still works. Svn has the advantage that
> you can chose your port 'version' if the current revision does not work
> for you.

I can see why a ports tree that is being checked out with svn instead
of being updated with portsnap might be a wise choice, but I'm not
quite sure if I understand correctly what the abilities of portupgrade
are that portmaster lacks? Do you want to elaborate on that? ;)

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> If you happen to use ports with svn, you could use revision
> 341159. This one worked for me. I did not check whether any updates to
> the ports tree resolved the issue, but I assume you used the latest
> one, so I guess it ain't resolved yet.
>=20

It is fixed. Update your ports tree and start upgrading.

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Hi,

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:49:35 +0100
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> 
> I can see why a ports tree that is being checked out with svn instead
> of being updated with portsnap might be a wise choice, but I'm not
> quite sure if I understand correctly what the abilities of portupgrade
> are that portmaster lacks? Do you want to elaborate on that? ;)

portupgrade never left an un-usable machine after an upgrade for me. As
such, I have no reason to look for any other tool.

Erich

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On 28/01/2014 8:24 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:49:35 +0100
> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
>
>>
>> I can see why a ports tree that is being checked out with svn instead
>> of being updated with portsnap might be a wise choice, but I'm not
>> quite sure if I understand correctly what the abilities of portupgrade
>> are that portmaster lacks? Do you want to elaborate on that? ;)
>
> portupgrade never left an un-usable machine after an upgrade for me. As
> such, I have no reason to look for any other tool.
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It's left my machine unserviceable a couple times too.

Portmaster bails out mid-upgrade if it can't build one port, sometimes 
leaving apps broken if only so many dependencies are upgraded or if 
Portmaster deletes a package before realizing it can't build the upgrade.

At least portupgrade carries on building what can be built and has a 
couple extra functions that Portmaster lacks, which adds to its appeal.

I used to prefer Portmaster for the --packages-build option, which is 
incompatible with pkgng, so I think I'll move to portupgrade.

-- 
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I have installed the Skype package really just to test my webcam and the
in-built microphone. Sadly the microphone doesn't appear to work. 

I've followed the instructions found on the various FreeBSD-specific
info sites but am now stuck. The webcam is a Logitech C310, using
FreeBSD 10 stable. 

I don't care about skype, like I said I just wanted to test things out.
But I would like to see if I can get the microphone working. 

Below, is the dmesg output for this particular device, should it help:


uaudio0: <vendor 0x046d product 0x081b, class 239/2, rev 2.00/0.10, addr
3> on usbus3
uaudio0: No playback.
uaudio0: Record: 48000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
uaudio0: Record: 32000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
uaudio0: Record: 24000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
uaudio0: Record: 16000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
uaudio0: No MIDI sequencer.
pcm2: <USB audio> on uaudio0
uaudio0: No HID volume keys found.

Is there anything I can try, any ideas? 

Cheers, Jamie. 


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El día Tuesday, January 28, 2014 a las 11:01:00AM +0000, James Griffin escribió:

> I have installed the Skype package really just to test my webcam and the
> in-built microphone. Sadly the microphone doesn't appear to work. 
> 
> I've followed the instructions found on the various FreeBSD-specific
> info sites but am now stuck. The webcam is a Logitech C310, using
> FreeBSD 10 stable. 
> 
> I don't care about skype, like I said I just wanted to test things out.
> But I would like to see if I can get the microphone working. 
> 
> Below, is the dmesg output for this particular device, should it help:
> 
> 
> uaudio0: <vendor 0x046d product 0x081b, class 239/2, rev 2.00/0.10, addr
> 3> on usbus3
> uaudio0: No playback.
> uaudio0: Record: 48000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
> uaudio0: Record: 32000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
> uaudio0: Record: 24000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
> uaudio0: Record: 16000 Hz, 1 ch, 16-bit S-LE PCM format, 2x8ms buffer.
> uaudio0: No MIDI sequencer.
> pcm2: <USB audio> on uaudio0
> uaudio0: No HID volume keys found.
> 
> Is there anything I can try, any ideas? 

What does show 'mixer' about?

Btw: you can test recording with for example:

# dd if=/dev/dsp of=/tmp/mastersVoice

and play it back the same way switching if= and of=

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Hi,

The new netbook from Asus, the T100, looks very nice. One can remove the
keyboard and it works like a small tablett PC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7NgPvQZr7A&cc_load_policy=1

See also
http://liliputing.com/2013/10/booting-ubuntu-asus-transformer-book-t100.html
about a test with Ubuntu. Any tests with FreeBSD done already?

Thx

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On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:

> What does show 'mixer' about?
>
> Btw: you can test recording with for example:
>
> # dd if=/dev/dsp of=/tmp/mastersVoice
>
> and play it back the same way switching if= and of=
>
> 	matthias

Hi matthias, mixer command shows this:

Mixer vol      is currently set to  75:75
Mixer pcm      is currently set to  75:75
Mixer speaker  is currently set to 100:100
Mixer line     is currently set to   1:1
Mixer mic      is currently set to  67:67
Mixer cd       is currently set to  74:74
Mixer mix      is currently set to 100:100
Mixer rec      is currently set to  72:72
Mixer igain    is currently set to   0:0
Mixer ogain    is currently set to 100:100
Mixer monitor  is currently set to  67:67
Recording source: cd

I looked at someones website, they described modifying a file
/compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf - i haven't tried it yet, maybe
some settings in this will help?


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Hi,

I upgraded my server from 9.2-RELEASE to 10.0-RELEASE using freebsd-update
tool, but I received these message from 'periodic weekly' cron task :

--------------------------

Rebuilding locate database:

Rebuilding whatis database:
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_base_set.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_disable.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_enable.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_free.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_new.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_read.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_settimeout.3.gz: No such file
or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_write.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/bufferevent_write_buffer.3.gz: No such file
or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_add.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_add_buffer.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_add_printf.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_add_vprintf.3.gz: No such file or
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directory
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directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_free.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_new.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_read.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_readline.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evbuffer_write.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_clear_nameservers_and_suspend.3.gz:
No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_config_windows_nameservers.3.gz: No
such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_count_nameservers.3.gz: No such file
or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_err_to_string.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_nameserver_add.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_nameserver_ip_add.3.gz: No such file
or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_resolv_conf_parse.3.gz: No such file
or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_resolve_ipv4.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_resolve_reverse.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_resume.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_search_add.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_search_clear.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_search_ndots_set.3.gz: No such file
or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_set_log_fn.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evdns_shutdown.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_add.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_base_dispatch.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_base_loop.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_base_loopexit.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_base_set.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_del.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_dispatch.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_initialized.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_loop.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_loopexit.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_once.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_pending.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_priority_init.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_priority_set.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/event_set.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evhttp_free.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evhttp_start.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evtimer_add.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evtimer_del.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evtimer_initialized.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evtimer_pending.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/evtimer_set.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/signal_add.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/signal_del.3.gz: No such file or directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/signal_initialized.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/signal_pending.3.gz: No such file or
directory
makewhatis: /usr/local/man/man3/signal_set.3.gz: No such file or directory

--------------------------
Content of the directory /usr/local/man/man3
--------------------------
root@DL365G2-1:/usr/local/man/man3 # ls -al
total 76
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  5632 Jan 22 09:24 .
drwxr-xr-x  28 root  wheel   512 Jan 28 13:18 ..
-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  1273 Dec 12 18:17 bind_textdomain_codeset.3.gz
-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  1282 Dec 12 18:17 bindtextdomain.3.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_base_set.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_disable.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_enable.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_free.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_new.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_read.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_settimeout.3.gz
-> ../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_write.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 bufferevent_write_buffer.3.gz
-> ../man/-.gz
-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel    39 Dec 12 18:17 dcgettext.3.gz
-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel    40 Dec 12 18:17 dcngettext.3.gz
-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel    39 Dec 12 18:17 dgettext.3.gz
-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel    40 Dec 12 18:17 dngettext.3.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_add.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_add_buffer.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_add_printf.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_add_vprintf.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_drain.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_find.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_free.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_new.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_read.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_readline.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14 evbuffer_write.3.gz ->
../man/-.gz
-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  4659 Dec 12 18:14 evdns.3.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14
evdns_clear_nameservers_and_suspend.3.gz -> ../man/-.gz
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    11 Dec 12 18:14
evdns_config_windows_nameservers.3.gz -> ../man/-.gz
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-r--r--r--   1 root  wheel  1058 Dec 12 18:17 textdomain.3.gz

--------------------------

Can I remove these links or another solution is available to solve this
problem?

Thank for your help.

Kind regards,
Alexandre

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El día Tuesday, January 28, 2014 a las 12:16:18PM +0000, James Griffin escribió:

> On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
> 
> > What does show 'mixer' about?
> >
> > Btw: you can test recording with for example:
> >
> > # dd if=/dev/dsp of=/tmp/mastersVoice
> >
> > and play it back the same way switching if= and of=
> >
> > 	matthias
> 
> Hi matthias, mixer command shows this:
> 
> Mixer vol      is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer pcm      is currently set to  75:75
> Mixer speaker  is currently set to 100:100
> Mixer line     is currently set to   1:1
> Mixer mic      is currently set to  67:67
> Mixer cd       is currently set to  74:74
> Mixer mix      is currently set to 100:100
> Mixer rec      is currently set to  72:72
> Mixer igain    is currently set to   0:0
> Mixer ogain    is currently set to 100:100
> Mixer monitor  is currently set to  67:67
> Recording source: cd

What does 

# cat /dev/sndstat show?

You should play around with the mixer settings and use the above dd cmd for
tests;

> I looked at someones website, they described modifying a file
> /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf - i haven't tried it yet, maybe
> some settings in this will help?

This is only for Skype and if you have more then one sound device.

	matthias

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> It is fixed. Update your ports tree and start upgrading.
>
Indeed it is. Thanks, and thanks to _1126.


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On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:

> What does 
>
> # cat /dev/sndstat show?

Installed devices:
pcm0: <Analog Devices AD1882 (Analog)> (play/rec) default
pcm1: <Analog Devices AD1882 (Front Analog Headphones)> (play)
pcm2: <USB audio> (rec)

> You should play around with the mixer settings and use the above dd cmd for
> tests;

Yeah, I will do that next. 

>> I looked at someones website, they described modifying a file
>> /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf - i haven't tried it yet, maybe
>> some settings in this will help?
>
> This is only for Skype and if you have more then one sound device.
>
> 	matthias

I only have one sound device, although I would use Skype a little if
this would work. Will modifying this file resolve that issue with Skype
do you think? 

Thanks for your help. I will report back with the result of the 'dd'
command you suggested. 

Jamie.


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On 2014-01-27, Ajtim <lumiwa@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday 27 January 2014 21:56:34 Volker Nebel wrote:
>> Good morning!
>> 
>> Since a few days my Macmini 6.1 is running on FreeBSD 10.0 (yeah, and 
>> FreeBSD alone)! Unfortunately, it does not (yet) produce any sound, and I 
>> really need help on this. I followed the handbook and it looks like, 
>> driver snd_hda is used. [CMD=" "]dmesg | grep hda[/CMD] gives the output 
>> shown below. Soundcard seems to be Cirrus Logic CS4206.
>>     I tried the following steps:
>> - Find a specific driver for this sound card: Nothing.
>> - Turn volume up with [CMD=" "]mixer pcm 100 vol 100[/CMD]. Still nothing 
>> to hear.
>> - Change the value of hw.snd.default_unit to 0,1,2. No effect.
>>     Has anybody a good idea how to proceed?
>>     Don't know, whether the following is relevant: [CMD=" "]kldload 
>> snd_driver[/CMD] gives 6 times "ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range". When 
>> booting, I get this message once.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Volker

Did you try using the default sound driver first? I use speakers plugged
into the headphones port on my macmini as the default speaker is really
quiet. Have you tried speakers and/or headphones?


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On 28.01.2014 14:48, James Griffin wrote:
> On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
>
>> What does 
>>
>> # cat /dev/sndstat show?
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <Analog Devices AD1882 (Analog)> (play/rec) default
> pcm1: <Analog Devices AD1882 (Front Analog Headphones)> (play)
> pcm2: <USB audio> (rec)
And do you have more than one mixer device?
ls /dev/mixer*

And check which device is recording input. Currently you have CD set as
recording device(I think that's default) and you probably should have
rec(or mic).

Maciej

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El día Tuesday, January 28, 2014 a las 01:48:34PM +0000, James Griffin escribió:

> I only have one sound device, although I would use Skype a little if
> this would work. Will modifying this file resolve that issue with Skype
> do you think? 

If you have /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer the default file
/compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf will work;

	matthias

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On 28/01/2014 13:24, Vagner wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> I've created geom stripe raid for my SSD drives. But when I gave load to
> this raid, I've got error:
>> <kern.crit> server kernel:
>> g_vfs_done():stripe/st0a[WRITE(offset=214821666816, length=32768)]error = 11
> and mine server was gone...
>
> In src tree I've found that this happend because we've called function
> g_io_transient_map_bio(struct bio *bp); We try to allocate
> memory for transient_arena and get error in g_io_deliver(bp, EDEADLK);
> g_io_transient_map_bio was called by function g_down_procbody(void
> *arg) there. So, could you tell me, why we try to execute function
> g_io_transient_map_bio(struct bio *bp), and where kthread
> g_down_procbody(void *arg) was runs for execution? I think this error mean that
> I haven't kernel memory space for allocate transient_arena object. But I
> think what attempt for allocate memory is effect of some error... May be
> somebody had error like this. Could you help me?
>
> My OS version: 9.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 9.2-PRERELEASE #0 r255421M
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
Before digging in to this (or pointing out the obvious about using a 
-RELEASE build), how big exactly are these SSDs?

Regards, Frank.


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On 2014-01-28, Maciej Milewski <milu@dat.pl> wrote:
> On 28.01.2014 14:48, James Griffin wrote:
>> On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
>>
>>> What does 
>>>
>>> # cat /dev/sndstat show?
>> Installed devices:
>> pcm0: <Analog Devices AD1882 (Analog)> (play/rec) default
>> pcm1: <Analog Devices AD1882 (Front Analog Headphones)> (play)
>> pcm2: <USB audio> (rec)
> And do you have more than one mixer device?
> ls /dev/mixer*
>
> And check which device is recording input. Currently you have CD set as
> recording device(I think that's default) and you probably should have
> rec(or mic).
>
> Maciej

Hi Maciej, 

There are 3 mixer devices:

/usr/home/jmz % ls /dev/mixer*
/dev/mixer0 /dev/mixer1 /dev/mixer2

I have set the rec device; $mixer =rec mic

Looking again at the output for `cat /dev/sndstat` perhaps this should
be set to rec (pcm2: <USB audio> (rec)) as the webcam is usb peripheral?
I will try both to see. Does this sound correct to you?


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On 28.01.2014 17:12, James Griffin wrote:
> Hi Maciej, 
>
> There are 3 mixer devices:
>
> /usr/home/jmz % ls /dev/mixer*
> /dev/mixer0 /dev/mixer1 /dev/mixer2
>
> I have set the rec device; $mixer =rec mic
>
> Looking again at the output for `cat /dev/sndstat` perhaps this should
> be set to rec (pcm2: <USB audio> (rec)) as the webcam is usb peripheral?
> I will try both to see. Does this sound correct to you?
Your webcam looks as pcm2 so i suspect one of the other mixers(I bet
mixer2) is connected with it.
Check volume on this mixer to be sure it's not muted and then try
testing some records.


Maciej


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Hi, I am currently running the following i386 9.0 on my firewall system.


FreeBSD jessie.mcd.on.ca 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:15:25 UTC 2012     root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

I need to upgrade to 9.1 or 9.2 or higher but I'd also like to switch over to amd64 as 
my install of i386 was a stupid mistake 2 years ago :-).

tips on how to install /upgrade please?   Will the installer of amd64/9.2 notice my existing system?

thanks,
doug

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>> 
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>
> portupgrade never left an un-usable machine after an upgrade for me. As
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Erich,

Your replies in this thread have been illuminating. In the light of them, I have decided to stick with portupgrade, but to move ports updating from portsnap to svn, for the extra flexibility.

Thanks!


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On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:

> If you have /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer the default file
> /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf will work;
>
> 	matthias
>

Ok, got Skype with microphone working. 

Had to edit the file /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf

pcm.oss2 {
	...
	device /dev/dsp2
	...
		Description " ... Webcam"
}

ctl.oss2 {
	...
	device /dev/mixer2
	...
		Description " ... Webcam"
}

... added to the file. So essentially adding a second copy of the text
in there with a second device number; in my case, I chose 2 because
that's what dmesg | grep uaudio showed the camera had been attached to. 

Hope that makes sense???


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> Hi, I am currently running the following i386 9.0 on my firewall system=
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> I need to upgrade to 9.1 or 9.2 or higher but I'd also like to switch o=
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> my install of i386 was a stupid mistake 2 years ago :-).
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> tips on how to install /upgrade please?   Will the installer of amd64/9=
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Re-install your system using the amd64 installation media.  Simple as tha=
t.

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different machine and plan on completely wiping out your current setup.
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On 01/27/2014 10:50 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I am running 9.2 stable i386 r261207.  As noted earlier:
>
>> I just replaced mobo/CPU on FBSD server (Gigabyte Z-87-D3HP with
>> an Intel i3-4130).  I am not overclocking ...  but I continue to see this sort of thing:
>
>> MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error
>
> Dmesg shows:
>
>> MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x306c3, APIC ID 0
>> MCA: CPU 0 COR (1) internal parity error
>> MCA: Bank 0, Status 0x90000040000f0005
>> MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000c07, Status 0x0000000000000000_
>
> I've swapped CPUs (i5). I've fiddled with an endless supply of
> mobo settings. I've switched power supplies.  I've moved mem
> sticks around ....   No joy.
>
> So, I dug through the sources and found this:
>
>
>
> mca_log(const struct mca_record *rec)
> {
>          uint16_t mca_error;
>
>          printf("MCA: Bank %d, Status 0x%016llx\n", rec->mr_bank,
>              (long long)rec->mr_status);
>          printf("MCA: Global Cap 0x%016llx, Status 0x%016llx\n",
>              (long long)rec->mr_mcg_cap, (long long)rec->mr_mcg_status);
>          printf("MCA: Vendor \"%s\", ID 0x%x, APIC ID %d\n", cpu_vendor,
>              rec->mr_cpu_id, rec->mr_apic_id);
>          printf("MCA: CPU %d ", rec->mr_cpu);
>          if (rec->mr_status & MC_STATUS_UC)
>                  printf("UNCOR ");
>          else {
>                  printf("COR ");
>                  if (rec->mr_mcg_cap & MCG_CAP_CMCI_P)
>                          printf("(%lld) ", ((long long)rec->mr_status &
>                              MC_STATUS_COR_COUNT) >> 38);
>          }
>
>
> It looks like the trailing else clause is kicking out the error but I am
> unclear what the error means, beyond the fact that it appears to be a parity
> error somewhere within the CPU's internal memory (cache?).  Is this error
> getting corrected?  Is this benign, Should I get a different mobo?
>
> Um .... Haaaaalp :)


I have now tried different motherboards, CPUs, memory, and power supplies and
this error is still showing up now and then.

This points strongly to either FreeBSD bogus reporting, or these errors being
benign.  It's hard to believe that the exact same error might occur with
completely different hardware ... unless it's being caused by the case.



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I am trying to get X to jump into 1920x1080 on an i5-based system
with Intel HD 4600 video.  The intel driver seems to know nothing
about this chipset and vesa doesn't want to go that high in res.

Ideas? Workarounds?
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Hi,

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:10:01 -0600
Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:

> I am trying to get X to jump into 1920x1080 on an i5-based system
> with Intel HD 4600 video.  The intel driver seems to know nothing
> about this chipset and vesa doesn't want to go that high in res.
> 
> Ideas? Workarounds?

I do not know about newer CPU versions as I have a second generation
i7. I also have had to give X an hint via xorg.conf. But this was more
than a year ago and should not be needed anymore.

If your is a fourth generation i5, it could be that it is not fully
supported yet. Just check the FreeBSD wiki regarding KMS, Intel etc.

Erich

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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Erich Dollansky
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> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:40:46 -0800
> "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Erich Dollansky
>> <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:17:42 -0800
>> > "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Erich Dollansky
>> >> <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:41:54 -0800
>> >> > "Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Does anyone have any ideas on why startx would cause Xorg to
>> >> >> consume 100% cpu and stuck in RUN state. kill -9 does nothing to
>> >> >> it and forced to reboot to kill it.
>
> did you try the kill as root?
>> >>
yes, nothing

>> >> didn't show anything, what does that do? The ati driver worked
>> >> fine in FreeBSD 9.2. This card doesn't support KMS as it's an
>> >> older laptop video card.
>> >
>> > if KMS is not supported, then take the VESA driver and see what
>> > happens.
>> >
>> vesa works fine but wanted it to work with the ati driver which has
>> acceleration
>
> Ok, did you upgrade FreeBSD?
>
> The recompile at least hal and the video driver.
it was a fresh install. Now I am able to reproduce it only half the
time after recompiling the kernel with the latest 10 stable.

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Hi,

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 22:21:45 -0800
"Jack L." <xxjack12xx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Erich Dollansky
> <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> wrote:
> >
> > did you try the kill as root?
> >> >>
> yes, nothing

with kill -9?
> 
> >> >> didn't show anything, what does that do? The ati driver worked
> >> >> fine in FreeBSD 9.2. This card doesn't support KMS as it's an
> >> >> older laptop video card.
> >> >
> >> > if KMS is not supported, then take the VESA driver and see what
> >> > happens.
> >> >
> >> vesa works fine but wanted it to work with the ati driver which has
> >> acceleration
> >
> > Ok, did you upgrade FreeBSD?
> >
> > The recompile at least hal and the video driver.
> it was a fresh install. Now I am able to reproduce it only half the
> time after recompiling the kernel with the latest 10 stable.

It is getting more weird.

Fresh installs with binaries can cause some problems.

I have no idea what it could be now. What are the logs for X saying?

Erich

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Hello there,

I have a question about snapshots and clones. I created a template
dataset and snapshot for creating new jails. I call it
tank/jails/template and tank/jails/template@1.

So we have:

tank/jails/template@1
tank/jails/A (origin template@1)
tank/jails/B (origin template@1)

Now, I wanted to upgrade the template and create a new snapshot @2. Then
I would like to destroy the @1 because it will not be used to create new
jails. Because it's the parent of A and B I needed to promote them and
there is the thing that I didn't understand. I thought that promote was
a way to `detach' the children of a parent so that jails lives on their
own but it's not actually what I expected.

zfs promote on tank/jails/A and tank/jails/B gave me unexpected results.
I got my tank/jails/template@1 renamed to something like tank/jails/B@1
and the origin of tank/jails/A has been set to the latest IIRC.

So, I'm guessing that promote is not actually what I wanted, how should
I release the jails origin so they are completely free and I can destroy
the oldest template snapshot?

Regards,

--
David Demelier

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On 28/01/2014 20:42, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 28/01/2014 16:02, Doug Eastick wrote:
>> Hi, I am currently running the following i386 9.0 on my firewall system.
>>
>>
>> FreeBSD jessie.mcd.on.ca 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan  3 07:15:25 UTC 2012     root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
>>
>> I need to upgrade to 9.1 or 9.2 or higher but I'd also like to switch over to amd64 as
>> my install of i386 was a stupid mistake 2 years ago :-).
>>
>> tips on how to install /upgrade please?   Will the installer of amd64/9.2 notice my existing system?
>
>
> Re-install your system using the amd64 installation media.  Simple as that.
>
> You should back up anything you want to keep onto removable media or a
> different machine and plan on completely wiping out your current setup.
>    Even if you ultimately manage to preserve some parts of the current
> system, better to be prepared in case anihilation is the (desired or
> not) outcome.
>

Matthew's advice is the sensible answer and really should be the way you 
go as it's your firewall.

However, I'm in a similar position myself but the machine in question is 
an unimportant spare I'm using for playing around on, and I specifically 
want to get familiar with FreeBSD's cross building capabilities because 
I want to do some custom builds for Raspberry Pi soon (yes, I know about 
crochet). Therefore, I'm intending to do things the hard way for the 
practice, and if I screw up, it won't really matter. As part of my 
research on the topic I came across this page on the wiki:

https://wiki.freebsd.org/amd64/i386Migration

If that doesn't convince you to follow Matthew's advice, good luck. :-)

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 04:35:17PM +0000, Walter Hurry wrote:
> Erich Dollansky wrote:
>=20
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:49:35 +0100
> > _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
> >
> >>=20
> >> I can see why a ports tree that is being checked out with svn instead
> >> of being updated with portsnap might be a wise choice, but I'm not
> >> quite sure if I understand correctly what the abilities of portupgrade
> >> are that portmaster lacks? Do you want to elaborate on that? ;)
> >
> > portupgrade never left an un-usable machine after an upgrade for me. As
> > such, I have no reason to look for any other tool.
> >
> Erich,
>=20
> Your replies in this thread have been illuminating. In the light of
> them, I have decided to stick with portupgrade, but to move ports
> updating from portsnap to svn, for the extra flexibility.

I think I'll do the same. At least the svn part. Have to figure out
how to deal with custom configured ports, though. In the worst case,
I'll reconfigure and rebuild all ports.=20


=20
> Thanks!

Thanks indeed.

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Hi=0ARecently I've changed some source codes in /usr/src/. How can I apply =
the changes to FreeBSD?
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:52:00 +0000 (GMT), Ted Reynard wrote:
> Hi
> Recently I've changed some source codes in /usr/src/.
> How can I apply the changes to FreeBSD?

As explained in The FreeBSD Handbook. :-)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

Also see the commend header in /usr/src/Makefile which
contains a summary of the procedure.


-- 
Polytropon
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On 28.01.2014 18:13, James Griffin wrote:
> On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
>
>> If you have /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer the default file
>> /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf will work;
>>
>> 	matthias
>>
> Ok, got Skype with microphone working. 
>
> Had to edit the file /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf
>
> pcm.oss2 {
> 	...
> 	device /dev/dsp2
> 	...
> 		Description " ... Webcam"
> }
>
> ctl.oss2 {
> 	...
> 	device /dev/mixer2
> 	...
> 		Description " ... Webcam"
> }
>
> ... added to the file. So essentially adding a second copy of the text
> in there with a second device number; in my case, I chose 2 because
> that's what dmesg | grep uaudio showed the camera had been attached to. 
>
> Hope that makes sense???

As long as that works fine - that makes sense :)

Maciej


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Necessary to implement static NAT 1:1

10.1.2.3 -> 100.1.2.3
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...
IP addresses such an over 20k
prompt you implement?



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On 2014-01-29, Maciej Milewski <milu@dat.pl> wrote:
> On 28.01.2014 18:13, James Griffin wrote:
>> On 2014-01-28, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer the default file
>>> /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf will work;
>>>
>>> 	matthias
>>>
>> Ok, got Skype with microphone working. 
>>
>> Had to edit the file /compat/linux/etc/alsa/pcm/pcm-oss.conf
>>
>> pcm.oss2 {
>> 	...
>> 	device /dev/dsp2
>> 	...
>> 		Description " ... Webcam"
>> }
>>
>> ctl.oss2 {
>> 	...
>> 	device /dev/mixer2
>> 	...
>> 		Description " ... Webcam"
>> }
>>
>> ... added to the file. So essentially adding a second copy of the text
>> in there with a second device number; in my case, I chose 2 because
>> that's what dmesg | grep uaudio showed the camera had been attached to. 
>>
>> Hope that makes sense???
>
> As long as that works fine - that makes sense :)
>
> Maciej

Yep, it works well. Thanks for your help Maciej. And to Matthias too.


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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Erich Dollansky wrote:

> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:30:02 +0800
> From: Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>
> To: _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de>
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: weird error
>     messages with various ports
> 
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:10:12 +0100
> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 08:03:26PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:49:19 +0100
>>> _1126 <lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 07:18:58PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:05:19 +0100
>>>>> lists@elfsechsundzwanzig.de wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my first posting on this mailinglist, so I hope I am
>>>>>> doing everything ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> do not worry to much about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am running a 10.0-RELEASE on a Thinkpad X220 - and
>>>>>> everything was just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I do the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Until I did a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ sudo portsnap fetch update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> today and afterwards a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ sudo portmaster -aD
>>>>>>
>>>>> I did nearly the same either yesterday night or this morning
>>>>> but I used svn and portupgrade without any problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> How old was your ports tree before the upgrade?
>>>>
>>>> Three days old.
>>>>
>>> ok, get the latest one and try again. If it still does not work, I
>>> could give you the revision number of my working ports tree.
>>
>> It still does not work. However, I do not have a revision number,
>> IIUC, because I'm updating my ports with portsnap and not with svn,
>> right? I might try to checkout ports anew and see whether that works
>> then.
>
> of course.
>
> You might should consider to switch to svn and portupgrade. There is
> one advantage of this pair. Portupgrade does not leave you with a
> machine that cannot be used anymore. The worst case is that no port
> gets upgraded but your machine still works. Svn has the advantage that
> you can chose your port 'version' if the current revision does not work
> for you.
>
> Anyway, some other reported the same problem with a current ports tree.
> I have the revision number 341159 in case of you want to try.
>
> Erich
>
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I might suggest you look into poudriere if you are concerned about not 
breaking a system by doing port upgrades. Poudriere is an awesome tool 
that allows you to build packages and essentially maintain your own local 
package repo.

So, on your desktop (or whatever) machine that you want to keep running 
smoothly, you would simply use 'pkg' to install and upgrade everything. 
You would use poudriere to build the packages from ports. The advantages 
being: if a port breaks during build, your system will remain untouched. 
You just wait for the problem to be fixed, then rebuild your packages. 
Once the packages are built successfully, you can upgrade your system. The 
second advantage being that if you have several machines to maintain, you 
no longer have to wait for each one to build ports. Just build once using 
poudriere, fire up a web server to host the package repo, and point all 
the machines at that repo. Build once, install many!

Charlie

cwr@sdf.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org

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On 30/01/2014 1:06 AM, Charlie wrote:
>
> The second advantage being that if you have several machines to
> maintain, you no longer have to wait for each one to build ports. Just
> build once using poudriere, fire up a web server to host the package
> repo, and point all the machines at that repo. Build once, install many!
>
> Charlie
>

Assuming all systems are the same architecture and require the same 
build options. Sure, Poudriere on amd64 can build for i386 too, but 
that's not necessarily any more efficient in some scenarios.

Would be much nicer if port trees were broken less often.

-- 
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Hello,

With poudriere, can we build packages for FreeBSD 10/stable on a 9.2/stable host
(same arch)?

I have many build failures so I'm asking if this is supported.

For example libaudiofile fails on #include <string> :

/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --tag=CXX    --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -
I. -I../.. -I./..    -DNDEBUG  -Wall  -Wno-multichar        -fvisibility=hidden 
-fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-alia
sing -MT ALAC.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ALAC.Tpo -c -o ALAC.lo ALAC.cpp
libtool: compile:  c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I./.. -DNDEBUG -Wall -Wno-mu
ltichar -fvisibility=hidden -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fvisibility-inlines-hidde
n -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -MT ALAC.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ALAC.Tpo -c ALAC.
cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ALAC.o
In file included from ALAC.cpp:22:
In file included from ./ALAC.h:24:
In file included from ./Module.h:25:
./../AudioFormat.h:27:10: fatal error: 'string' file not found
#include <string>

Thanks, regards

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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 02:06:33PM +0000, Charlie wrote:
> I might suggest you look into poudriere if you are concerned about not=20
> breaking a system by doing port upgrades. Poudriere is an awesome tool=20
> that allows you to build packages and essentially maintain your own local=
=20
> package repo.
>=20
> So, on your desktop (or whatever) machine that you want to keep running=
=20
> smoothly, you would simply use 'pkg' to install and upgrade everything.=
=20
> You would use poudriere to build the packages from ports. The advantages=
=20
> being: if a port breaks during build, your system will remain untouched.=
=20
> You just wait for the problem to be fixed, then rebuild your packages.=20
> Once the packages are built successfully, you can upgrade your system. Th=
e=20
> second advantage being that if you have several machines to maintain, you=
=20
> no longer have to wait for each one to build ports. Just build once using=
=20
> poudriere, fire up a web server to host the package repo, and point all=
=20
> the machines at that repo. Build once, install many!

I wanted to check this out sometime in the near future. As a first
time using FreeBSD as main OS, I got enough to tinker with anyway. But
thanks for reminding me :)

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On 29/01/2014 15:47, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
> Hello,
>
> With poudriere, can we build packages for FreeBSD 10/stable on a 9.2/stable host
> (same arch)?
>
> I have many build failures so I'm asking if this is supported.
>
> For example libaudiofile fails on #include <string> :
>
> /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --tag=CXX    --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -
> I. -I../.. -I./..    -DNDEBUG  -Wall  -Wno-multichar        -fvisibility=hidden 
> -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-alia
> sing -MT ALAC.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ALAC.Tpo -c -o ALAC.lo ALAC.cpp
> libtool: compile:  c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I./.. -DNDEBUG -Wall -Wno-mu
> ltichar -fvisibility=hidden -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fvisibility-inlines-hidde
> n -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -MT ALAC.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ALAC.Tpo -c ALAC.
> cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ALAC.o
> In file included from ALAC.cpp:22:
> In file included from ./ALAC.h:24:
> In file included from ./Module.h:25:
> ./../AudioFormat.h:27:10: fatal error: 'string' file not found
> #include <string>
>
> Thanks, regards
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No, bapt@ told me that you can't bulk build for superior versions.
However, earlier versions are supported as well.

Regards,

David.

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On 29/01/2014 12:45, Vladislav Prodan wrote:
> Necessary to implement static NAT 1:1
>
> 10.1.2.3 -> 100.1.2.3
> 10.1.2.4 -> 100.1.2.4
> 10.1.2.5 -> 100.1.2.5
> 10.1.2.6 -> 100.1.2.6
> ...
> IP addresses such an over 20k
> prompt you implement?
>
I don't understand the question exactly (I expect I will not be the only 
one). natd will allow 1:1 mappings like this very easily. Are you saying 
you have a lot of these and you do not want to write the config file by 
hand?




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My system always have had problems getting my HP cp1515n to work. But 
installing HPLIP from ports, then installing HPIJS with pkg_add -rf will 
get the correct PPDs to show up in CUPS.

  After swithcing to pkgng it does not seem to exist a force option so  
I have to do all my prints on another machine, which is slightly 
annoying. I have read man pages and googled but can not seem to find a 
force funtion. Does anybody know about one or have a better way of 
making the right PPDs install to get my printer going ? Having only 
HPLIP, or HPIJS installed does not make this possible.

Thanks in advance, Kenneth Hatteland

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 01:03:51 +0100
"Christopher J. Ruwe" <cjr@cruwe.de> wrote:

> I have got a new Thinkpad T440p with dual Intel / Nvidia graphics. As
> Intel Haswell is of now unspupported I had high hopes for the nvidia
> GPU. However, with x11/nvidia-driver I get a black screen and
> following error message on dmesg:
> 
> nvidia0: <GeForce GT 730M> on vgapci0
> vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
> vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> ACPI Error: Field [TBF3] at 270336 exceeds Buffer [NULL] size 262144
> (bits) (20130823/dsopcode-249) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution
> failed [\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_.GETB] (Node 0xfffff80005341e00),
> AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20130823/psparse-553) ACPI Error: Method
> parse/execution failed [\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._ROM] (Node
> 0xfffff80005341e40), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20130823/psparse-553) ACPI
> Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
> Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) em0:
> link state changed to UP ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> 
> I updated BIOS with
> http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS037576
> to have the newsest version.
> 
> 
> I have seen such an error message reported to the letter in Sep '13 by
> Hiren. Can anybody help me understand what's happening here, I have
> absolutely no idea what that should mean.
> 
> Thanks and cheers, 

cc'ing MAINTAINER of x11/nvidia-driver and freebsd-x11

After some investigation, it appears that due to "errors" in the acpi
implementation, the driver issues non-conforming acpi calls. Similiar
problems have been reported on Archlinux.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170074
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/37465
https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch/issues/65


I have opened a topic on devtalk.nvidia.com

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/680155/freebsd/x11-nvidia-driver-331-20-malfunction/


I have can be of any assistance debugging, please say so.

Thanks for any attention,
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> 
> On 29/01/2014 12:45, Vladislav Prodan wrote:
> > Necessary to implement static NAT 1:1
> >
> > 10.1.2.3 -> 100.1.2.3
> > 10.1.2.4 -> 100.1.2.4
> > 10.1.2.5 -> 100.1.2.5
> > 10.1.2.6 -> 100.1.2.6
> > ...
> > IP addresses such an over 20k
> > prompt you implement?
> >
> I don't understand the question exactly (I expect I will not be the only 
> one). natd will allow 1:1 mappings like this very easily. Are you saying 
> you have a lot of these and you do not want to write the config file by 
> hand?
> 
> 

I'm not sure that FreeBSD withstand an over 20k rules of the form:

ipfw nat 3 config ip 100.1.2.3
ipfw nat 4 config ip 100.1.2.4
ipfw nat 5 config ip 100.1.2.5
ipfw nat 6 config ip 100.1.2.6
...

+ Two rules to handle each nat N

Probably need to somehow use nat tablearg, but I do not understand logic.


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Hi

I'm going to start using poudriere. I just wanted to check the step(s)
required to create the zfs/zpool in order to use it.

I'm using FreeBSD 10, default zfs layout/setup from installation. 

I've read on a site that `zpool create ... ada0` to start? I just want
to ask before I go ahead so I don't screw it up. I'm not familiar yet
with zfs filesystem. There doesn't appear to be any clear guides
available on setting up the zfs environment needed for poudriere; not
that I could find anyway.

Thanks for any info received. 

Jamie.


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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:51:49 +0000 (UTC)
James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I'm going to start using poudriere. I just wanted to check the step(s)
> required to create the zfs/zpool in order to use it.
> 
> I'm using FreeBSD 10, default zfs layout/setup from installation. 
> 
> I've read on a site that `zpool create ... ada0` to start? I just want
> to ask before I go ahead so I don't screw it up. I'm not familiar yet
> with zfs filesystem. There doesn't appear to be any clear guides
> available on setting up the zfs environment needed for poudriere; not
> that I could find anyway.
> 
> Thanks for any info received. 
> 
> Jamie.
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Assuming you are running 10.0-RELEASE on zfs and further assuming you
do not run multiple zpools, you already have your zpool set up.

You configure the $ZPOOL poudriere uses in
/usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf, which is extensively commented.

Then, poudriere jail -c <...> will create your zfs dataset for you. I
recommend to create datasets for packages like
zroot/poudriere/packages/10amd64, but this is not required.

Cheers,
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On 2014-01-29, Christopher J. Ruwe <cjr@cruwe.de> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:51:49 +0000 (UTC)
> James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> 
>> I'm going to start using poudriere. I just wanted to check the step(s)
>> required to create the zfs/zpool in order to use it.
>> 
>> I'm using FreeBSD 10, default zfs layout/setup from installation. 
>> 
>> I've read on a site that `zpool create ... ada0` to start? I just want
>> to ask before I go ahead so I don't screw it up. I'm not familiar yet
>> with zfs filesystem. There doesn't appear to be any clear guides
>> available on setting up the zfs environment needed for poudriere; not
>> that I could find anyway.
>> 
>> Thanks for any info received. 
>> 
>> Jamie.
>
> Assuming you are running 10.0-RELEASE on zfs and further assuming you
> do not run multiple zpools, you already have your zpool set up.
>
> You configure the $ZPOOL poudriere uses in
> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf, which is extensively commented.
>
> Then, poudriere jail -c <...> will create your zfs dataset for you. I
> recommend to create datasets for packages like
> zroot/poudriere/packages/10amd64, but this is not required.
>
> Cheers,

Hi, thanks for the info. I think I was overcomplicating the process.
I've got it all up and running now (I think - so far so good).

Jamie.


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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:23:31 EST Tim Daneliuk wrote:
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> Is there some special sauce to get /var/run/dmesg.boot to be
> populated with the boot time system messages?   Mine is empty
> and I'm not quite sure why...
> 
> Thanks,

It should happen automatically in the default system config.
There should be a 'dmesg_enable="YES"' line in your
/etc/defaults/rc.conf file, so you should get that behavior
unless that variable is set to "NO" in /etc/rc.conf.

Which version of FreeBSD are you running?  (I doubt it makes
a difference, but it would be good to say what it is).

One thing that might be happening is that /etc/rc.d/dmesg is
run at startup, but then something mounts a new filesystem
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You could always run /etc/rc.d/dmesg shortly after a system
reboot, and see what that does to /var/run/dmesg.boot.

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On 29/01/2014 15:52, Vladislav Prodan wrote:
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>
>
>> On 29/01/2014 12:45, Vladislav Prodan wrote:
>>> Necessary to implement static NAT 1:1
>>>
>>> 10.1.2.3 -> 100.1.2.3
>>> 10.1.2.4 -> 100.1.2.4
>>> 10.1.2.5 -> 100.1.2.5
>>> 10.1.2.6 -> 100.1.2.6
>>> ...
>>> IP addresses such an over 20k
>>> prompt you implement?
>>>
>> I don't understand the question exactly (I expect I will not be the only
>> one). natd will allow 1:1 mappings like this very easily. Are you saying
>> you have a lot of these and you do not want to write the config file by
>> hand?
>>
>>
> I'm not sure that FreeBSD withstand an over 20k rules of the form:
>
> ipfw nat 3 config ip 100.1.2.3
> ipfw nat 4 config ip 100.1.2.4
> ipfw nat 5 config ip 100.1.2.5
> ipfw nat 6 config ip 100.1.2.6
> ...
>
> + Two rules to handle each nat N
>
> Probably need to somehow use nat tablearg, but I do not understand logic.
>
>

I do not think there would be a problem with natd. It uses libalias and 
this calls malloc() to add each redirect to a simple linked list. A 
quick looks suggests it's only 50-ish bytes/entry (depending on 
processor) so a table of 20K of them would be ~1Mb (+malloc overhead). 
There was a time when 1Mb was a lot of core, but not any more. It may 
slow down a bit, as it links through he list.

There might be something in the newer libalias that does it more 
efficiently, but if you give it a go I think it will probably work.

Regards, Frank.






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Just curious why one would use natd instead of the in kernel nat available a=
s either part of ipfw or pf.=20


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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Joshua Smith <juicewvu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious why one would use natd instead of the in kernel nat available as either part of ipfw or pf.

Kernel nat for ipfirewall requires a custom kernel (GENERIC does not
have LIBALIAS).

- M

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On 29/01/2014 22:13, Michael Sierchio wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Joshua Smith <juicewvu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just curious why one would use natd instead of the in kernel nat available as either part of ipfw or pf.
> Kernel nat for ipfirewall requires a custom kernel (GENERIC does not
> have LIBALIAS).
>
>
Although it's moot as I believe the kernel ends up with the same code 
(could be wrong), so it makes no difference to any limits. The kernel 
NAT is probably better as it handles hairpins whereas natd does not (or 
I've never been able to make it!)



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> On 29/01/2014 15:52, Vladislav Prodan wrote:
> > 
> >
> >
> >> On 29/01/2014 12:45, Vladislav Prodan wrote:
> >>> Necessary to implement static NAT 1:1
> >>>
> >>> 10.1.2.3 -> 100.1.2.3
> >>> 10.1.2.4 -> 100.1.2.4
> >>> 10.1.2.5 -> 100.1.2.5
> >>> 10.1.2.6 -> 100.1.2.6
> >>> ...
> >>> IP addresses such an over 20k
> >>> prompt you implement?
> >>>
> >> I don't understand the question exactly (I expect I will not be the only
> >> one). natd will allow 1:1 mappings like this very easily. Are you saying
> >> you have a lot of these and you do not want to write the config file by
> >> hand?
> >>
> >>
> > I'm not sure that FreeBSD withstand an over 20k rules of the form:
> >
> > ipfw nat 3 config ip 100.1.2.3
> > ipfw nat 4 config ip 100.1.2.4
> > ipfw nat 5 config ip 100.1.2.5
> > ipfw nat 6 config ip 100.1.2.6
> > ...
> >
> > + Two rules to handle each nat N
> >
> > Probably need to somehow use nat tablearg, but I do not understand logic.
> >
> >
> 
> I do not think there would be a problem with natd. It uses libalias and 
> this calls malloc() to add each redirect to a simple linked list. A 
> quick looks suggests it's only 50-ish bytes/entry (depending on 
> processor) so a table of 20K of them would be ~1Mb (+malloc overhead). 
> There was a time when 1Mb was a lot of core, but not any more. It may 
> slow down a bit, as it links through he list.
> 
> There might be something in the newer libalias that does it more 
> efficiently, but if you give it a go I think it will probably work.
> 
> Regards, Frank.
> 
>

Thank you for your feedback. 
I will try to assemble the stand and test scripts to simulate the behavior of users.

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> Just curious why one would use natd instead of the in kernel nat available as either part of ipfw or pf. 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> --
> Josh Smith
> KD8HRX
> 

I just do not know other ways to natd and tablearg for 20k IP.
Can offer a how-to which direction to go?


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Frank Leonhardt wrote:
> Unbelievable, but true - someone somewhere thought that removing 
> nslookup from the base system was the way to go.
> 
> Why? Can anyone shed any light on how this decision was made?
> 
> That's the question. The remainder are a few observations to save an 
> obvious response...
> 
> nslookup has been deprecated in some quarters for while now, with that 
> annoying message asking people to use dig instead, although ISC changed 
> its mind on this point after BIND 9.8. That's not a reason, and anyway, 
> dig is missing too.
> 
> Was it dropped because it's part on BIND, and that's been dropped from 
> the base system (bad idea if you ask me, but no one did)? Well, as far 
> as I can tell, this move has left us having to use "host" instead, and 
> that's part of the BIND package too.
> 
> What's next? Will someone get the bright idea that "ls" is a bit dated 
> and/or unfamiliar to Microsofties and replace it with "dir"? (And EVEN 
> WINDOWS has nslookup).
> 
> If I wanted an OS that lacked features such as DNS out of the box, I'd 
> have chosen Linux.
> 
> Regards, Frank.
> 
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Aloha Frank,

FWIW:
I just had to use nslookup and dig.
I am working on moving a DNS for a mail server from an ATM setup to 
inside of a lan with a public IP from my ISP.

Both tools are what Zone Edit uses on their servers. So I am going to 
add the /usr/ports/dns/bind-tools when I replace my current Desktop BSD 
boxes to FreeBSD10.

AL :)

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>wrote:
>
>
> I've swapped CPUs (i5). I've fiddled with an endless supply of
> mobo settings. I've switched power supplies.  I've moved mem
> sticks around ....   No joy.
>

Looks like the only thing left is rpl to start pulling out dimms.

So, I dug through the sources and found this:
>
>
>
> mca_log(const struct mca_record *rec)
> {
>         uint16_t mca_error;
>
>         printf("MCA: Bank %d, Status 0x%016llx\n", rec->mr_bank,
>             (long long)rec->mr_status);
>         printf("MCA: Global Cap 0x%016llx, Status 0x%016llx\n",
>             (long long)rec->mr_mcg_cap, (long long)rec->mr_mcg_status);
>         printf("MCA: Vendor \"%s\", ID 0x%x, APIC ID %d\n", cpu_vendor,
>             rec->mr_cpu_id, rec->mr_apic_id);
>         printf("MCA: CPU %d ", rec->mr_cpu);
>         if (rec->mr_status & MC_STATUS_UC)
>                 printf("UNCOR ");
>         else {
>                 printf("COR ");
>                 if (rec->mr_mcg_cap & MCG_CAP_CMCI_P)
>                         printf("(%lld) ", ((long long)rec->mr_status &
>                             MC_STATUS_COR_COUNT) >> 38);
>         }
>
>
> It looks like the trailing else clause is kicking out the error but I am
> unclear what the error means, beyond the fact that it appears to be a
> parity
> error somewhere within the CPU's internal memory (cache?).  Is this error
> getting corrected?  Is this benign, Should I get a different mobo?
>
> Um .... Haaaaalp :)


A pity you didn't follow my earlier suggestion.



-- 
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On 01/29/2014 08:06 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com <mailto:tundra@tundraware.com>> wrote:
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>     I've swapped CPUs (i5). I've fiddled with an endless supply of
>     mobo settings. I've switched power supplies.  I've moved mem
>     sticks around ....   No joy.
>
>
> Looks like the only thing left is rpl to start pulling out dimms.


I did that too.


<SNIP>


>
> A pity you didn't follow my earlier suggestion.

Um, mcelog does not grok the output from 4th Gen (Haswell)
parts.

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Hello all.
Just for note.
Some time ago I upgraded T430 from Stable-9 to Stable-10. And after upgrade I 
notice the same ACPI warnings:
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - 
Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)

But in my case Nvidia adapter working fine. T430 has NVS 5400 adapter 

vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x5000-0x507f mem 
0xf2000000-0xf2ffffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff,0xf0000000-0xf1ffffff irq 16 at device 
0.0 on pci1
nvidia0: <NVS 5400M> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
vgapci0: Boot video device

Im using Nvidia driver version 331.20. 

On Wednesday 29 January 2014 16:50:58 Christopher J. Ruwe wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 01:03:51 +0100
> 
> "Christopher J. Ruwe" <cjr@cruwe.de> wrote:
> > I have got a new Thinkpad T440p with dual Intel / Nvidia graphics. As
> > Intel Haswell is of now unspupported I had high hopes for the nvidia
> > GPU. However, with x11/nvidia-driver I get a black screen and
> > following error message on dmesg:
> > 
> > nvidia0: <GeForce GT 730M> on vgapci0
> > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
> > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch
> > - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > ACPI Error: Field [TBF3] at 270336 exceeds Buffer [NULL] size 262144
> > (bits) (20130823/dsopcode-249) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution
> > failed [\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_.GETB] (Node 0xfffff80005341e00),
> > AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20130823/psparse-553) ACPI Error: Method
> > parse/execution failed [\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._ROM] (Node
> > 0xfffff80005341e40), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT (20130823/psparse-553) ACPI
> > Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch -
> > Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20130823/nsarguments-97) em0:
> > link state changed to UP ACPI Warning: \134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97) ACPI Warning: 
\134_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM:
> > Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package]
> > (20130823/nsarguments-97)
> > 
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I just was wondering why the following did not work:

root@isdn:/dev # mount /dev/ad6s1a /mnt/ad6s1a
mount: /dev/ad6s1a: R/W mount of / denied. Filesystem is not clean - run 
fsck.: Operation not permitted
root@isdn:/dev # fsck /dev/ad6s1a
fsck: Could not determine filesystem type <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
root@isdn:/dev # fsck -t ufs /dev/ad6s1a
** /dev/ad6s1a
** Last Mounted on /
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
1867 files, 82726 used, 423761 free (3385 frags, 52547 blocks, 0.7% 
fragmentation)

***** FILE SYSTEM MARKED CLEAN *****


I had thought that FreeBSD could recognize its own filesystems (though 
this one is from an earlier version of FreeBSD)

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:22:46 +0100, Christoph P.U. Kukulies wrote:
> I just was wondering why the following did not work:
> 
> root@isdn:/dev # mount /dev/ad6s1a /mnt/ad6s1a
> mount: /dev/ad6s1a: R/W mount of / denied. Filesystem is not clean - run 
> fsck.: Operation not permitted
> root@isdn:/dev # fsck /dev/ad6s1a
> fsck: Could not determine filesystem type <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> root@isdn:/dev # fsck -t ufs /dev/ad6s1a
> ** /dev/ad6s1a
> ** Last Mounted on /
> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
> 1867 files, 82726 used, 423761 free (3385 frags, 52547 blocks, 0.7% 
> fragmentation)
> 
> ***** FILE SYSTEM MARKED CLEAN *****
> 
> 
> I had thought that FreeBSD could recognize its own filesystems (though 
> this one is from an earlier version of FreeBSD)

What you're experiencing is fully normal and intended. The detection
mechanism is not based upon actual file system types, but instead
relies on what /etc/fstab defines (either by reference of the mount
point or the device file or associated label).

See "man fsck":

     The fsck utility invokes file system-specific programs to check the spe-
     cial devices listed in the fstab(5) file or in the command line for con-
     sistency.

If your /etc/fstab has an entry for /dev/ad6s1a or /mnt/ad6s1a with
the ufs file system specifier, both

	# fsck /dev/ad6s1a

and
	# fsck /mnt/ad6s1a

should work as you intend.



-- 
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On 2014-01-29, Kenneth Hatteland <kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no> wrote:
> My system always have had problems getting my HP cp1515n to work. But 
> installing HPLIP from ports, then installing HPIJS with pkg_add -rf will 
> get the correct PPDs to show up in CUPS.
>
>   After swithcing to pkgng it does not seem to exist a force option so  
> I have to do all my prints on another machine, which is slightly 
> annoying. I have read man pages and googled but can not seem to find a 
> force funtion. Does anybody know about one or have a better way of 
> making the right PPDs install to get my printer going ? Having only 
> HPLIP, or HPIJS installed does not make this possible.
>
> Thanks in advance, Kenneth Hatteland

Have a look at the pkg-add(8) man page. Specifically, the -f option.
This provides the force function you need I believe. Or you might be
able to build it as a port to get it installed. 


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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:25:37 +0800
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> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:10:01 -0600
> Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to get X to jump into 1920x1080 on an i5-based system
> > with Intel HD 4600 video.  The intel driver seems to know nothing
> > about this chipset and vesa doesn't want to go that high in res.
> > 
> > Ideas? Workarounds?
> 
> I do not know about newer CPU versions as I have a second generation
> i7. I also have had to give X an hint via xorg.conf. But this was more
> than a year ago and should not be needed anymore.
> 
> If your is a fourth generation i5, it could be that it is not fully
> supported yet. Just check the FreeBSD wiki regarding KMS, Intel etc.
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I do not know about your setup. I have a Thinkpad T440p with HD4600
internal GPU and Nvidia GeForce 730M dedicated. Currently, I can only
run VESA and can _only_ use 1920x1080.

Ports are compiled from revision=341507.

Hope that helps, cheers,
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On 2014-01-29, James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-29, Christopher J. Ruwe <cjr@cruwe.de> wrote:

>> Assuming you are running 10.0-RELEASE on zfs and further assuming you
>> do not run multiple zpools, you already have your zpool set up.
>>
>> You configure the $ZPOOL poudriere uses in
>> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf, which is extensively commented.
>>
>> Then, poudriere jail -c <...> will create your zfs dataset for you. I
>> recommend to create datasets for packages like
>> zroot/poudriere/packages/10amd64, but this is not required.
>>
>> Cheers,
>
> Hi, thanks for the info. I think I was overcomplicating the process.
> I've got it all up and running now (I think - so far so good).
>
> Jamie.

The command i'm using to create the jail isn't working. I've checked the
man page, the command is correct so i'm stuck. The command is:

# poudriere jail -c -j 10amd64

df command shows the dataset/filesystem is mounted:


Filesystem                       Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
zroot/ROOT/default               220G    9.4G    210G     4%    /
devfs                            1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
fdescfs                          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev/fd
procfs                           4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /proc
linprocfs                        4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /compat/linux/proc
zroot/tmp                        210G    824K    210G     0%    /tmp
zroot/usr/home                   211G    625M    210G     0%    /usr/home
zroot/usr/ports                  212G    1.6G    210G     1%    /usr/ports
zroot/usr/src                    211G    1.1G    210G     0%    /usr/src
zroot/var                        213G    2.2G    210G     1%    /var
zroot/var/crash                  210G    148K    210G     0%    /var/crash
zroot/var/log                    210G    556K    210G     0%    /var/log
zroot/var/mail                   210G    156K    210G     0%    /var/mail
zroot/var/tmp                    210G     24M    210G     0%    /var/tmp
zroot/poudriere/ports/default    211G    1.2G    210G     1%    /usr/local/poudriere/ports/default

Can anyone advise?


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On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, James Griffin wrote:

> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:38:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com>
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: poudriere zfs/zpool create question
> 
> On 2014-01-29, James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-01-29, Christopher J. Ruwe <cjr@cruwe.de> wrote:
>
>>> Assuming you are running 10.0-RELEASE on zfs and further assuming you
>>> do not run multiple zpools, you already have your zpool set up.
>>>
>>> You configure the $ZPOOL poudriere uses in
>>> /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf, which is extensively commented.
>>>
>>> Then, poudriere jail -c <...> will create your zfs dataset for you. I
>>> recommend to create datasets for packages like
>>> zroot/poudriere/packages/10amd64, but this is not required.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hi, thanks for the info. I think I was overcomplicating the process.
>> I've got it all up and running now (I think - so far so good).
>>
>> Jamie.
>
> The command i'm using to create the jail isn't working. I've checked the
> man page, the command is correct so i'm stuck. The command is:
>
> # poudriere jail -c -j 10amd64
>
> df command shows the dataset/filesystem is mounted:
>
>
> Filesystem                       Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> zroot/ROOT/default               220G    9.4G    210G     4%    /
> devfs                            1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
> fdescfs                          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev/fd
> procfs                           4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /proc
> linprocfs                        4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /compat/linux/proc
> zroot/tmp                        210G    824K    210G     0%    /tmp
> zroot/usr/home                   211G    625M    210G     0%    /usr/home
> zroot/usr/ports                  212G    1.6G    210G     1%    /usr/ports
> zroot/usr/src                    211G    1.1G    210G     0%    /usr/src
> zroot/var                        213G    2.2G    210G     1%    /var
> zroot/var/crash                  210G    148K    210G     0%    /var/crash
> zroot/var/log                    210G    556K    210G     0%    /var/log
> zroot/var/mail                   210G    156K    210G     0%    /var/mail
> zroot/var/tmp                    210G     24M    210G     0%    /var/tmp
> zroot/poudriere/ports/default    211G    1.2G    210G     1%    /usr/local/poudriere/ports/default
>
> Can anyone advise?
>
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What do you have in /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf for

ZPOOL=

and

ZROOTFS=

It should be ZPOOL=zroot and ZROOTFS=/poudriere

Charlie

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Hello,

i hope you guys can give a hand debugging ipfw logging issues on my 
firewall machine.
Currently i get scrambled syslog messages generated by ipfw log and ran 
out of clues fixing it.
According 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ipfw/2007-September/003160.html 
this has
been an issue with 6.2 and was fixed with a mutex patch vor kernel 
logging device.
Currently i run 7.4p10 (i know it's EOL) and the problem seems to rearise.

System is:
FreeBSD tom 7.4-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p10 #0: Wed Oct 31 
07:22:00 UTC 2012
root@build64-7.XXX.XXXX.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DL380DNS  amd64

syslogd is used to write the ipfw log messages to /var/log/kern and 
/var/log/security showing
the follwing behavior:

syslogd is running with opts: -s -vv

/var/log/kern:

Jan 30 11:24:21 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 98
Jan 30 11:24:21 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 4
Jan 30 11:24:21 <kern.crit> tom kernel: v
Jan 30 11:24:22 <kern.crit> tom kernel: v
Jan 30 11:24:23 <kern.crit> tom kernel: c
Jan 30 11:24:24 <kern.crit> tom kernel: .
Jan 30 11:24:24 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 0
Jan 30 11:24:25 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 5
Jan 30 11:24:25 <kern.crit> tom kernel: f
Jan 30 11:24:26 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 1
Jan 30 11:24:27 <kern.crit> tom kernel: f
Jan 30 11:24:27 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 7
Jan 30 11:24:28 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 4
Jan 30 11:24:28 <kern.crit> tom kernel: 5
Jan 30 11:24:29 <kern.crit> tom kernel: e
Jan 30 11:24:30 <kern.crit> tom kernel: :
Jan 30 11:24:30 <kern.crit> tom kernel: D

/var/log/security ( X is used to anonymize the info a bit):

Jan 30 11:24:21 <security.info> tom kernel: Accept UDP XX.XX.XX.XX:58904 
XX.XX.XX.XX:694 out via vl349
Jan 30 11:24:21 <security.info> tom kernel: ipfw: 7998 Accept UiDpPf 
w1:0 .06.9497.87 4Ac:6c0e08p7t 1 0.U0D.P47 .1750:6.904. 4o7u.t 19v4i:a5 
b8c90e0
Jan 30 11:24:21 <security.info> tom kernel: XX.XX.XX.XX:694 out via vl349
Jan 30 11:24:21 <security.info> tom kernel: ipfwip:f w:7 969989 8A 
cAccecepptt  UUDDPP  1100..00..4477..7159:55:15620781 81 
01.00..04.74.77.41:9649:46 9i4n  ivina  vbciea0
Jan 30 11:24:21 <security.info> tom kernel: l349

Hope someone had this before and can give me hint.

Regards,

Thomas



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On 2014-01-30, Charlie <cwr@SDF.ORG> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, James Griffin wrote:

>> The command i'm using to create the jail isn't working. I've checked the
>> man page, the command is correct so i'm stuck. The command is:
>>
>> # poudriere jail -c -j 10amd64
>>
>> df command shows the dataset/filesystem is mounted:
>>
>>
>> [ ... ]
>> Can anyone advise?
>>

>
> What do you have in /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf for
>
> ZPOOL=

Yep, got that.

> and
>
> ZROOTFS=

Yep, got that too.

> It should be ZPOOL=zroot and ZROOTFS=/poudriere
>
> Charlie

File contents are:

ZPOOL=zroot
ZROOTFS=/poudriere
FREEBSD_HOST=ftp://ftp.freebsd.org
RESOLV_CONF=/etc/resolv.conf
BASEFS=/usr/local/poudriere
POUDRIERE_DATA=${BASEFS}/data
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DISTFILES_CACHE=/usr/ports/distfiles
SVN_HOST=svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org
CHECK_CHANGED_OPTIONS=verbose
CHECK_CHANGED_DEPS=yes
CCACHE_DIR=/var/cache/ccache
SAVE_WRKDIR=yes
WRKDIR_ARCHIVE_FORMAT=txz

I changed only the necessary fields in the file (sample).


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On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:38:21 +0000 (UTC)
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> The command i'm using to create the jail isn't working. I've checked
> the man page, the command is correct so i'm stuck. The command is:
> 
> # poudriere jail -c -j 10amd64

This is not sufficient, you just "named" your jail, but did not specifiy
which version you like there. Correct is

# poudriere jail -c -j 10amd64 -v 10.0-RELEASE

Cheers,
-- 
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> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:38:21 +0000 (UTC)
> James Griffin <jmzgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The command i'm using to create the jail isn't working. I've checked
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>> 
>> # poudriere jail -c -j 10amd64
>
> This is not sufficient, you just "named" your jail, but did not specifiy
> which version you like there. Correct is
>
> # poudriere jail -c -j 10amd64 -v 10.0-RELEASE
>
> Cheers,

Thanks Cristopher. I had manage to work it out in the end, about 30 mins
ago. Initially, I didn't realise the -v switch is mandatory. 

I appreciate your help.


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Warren,

Sorry not to have replied earlier, I=92ve been very busy with other =
things.

Your xorg.conf totally solved my difficulty! I=92ve got HAL and DBUS =
enabled so I uncommented the AutoAddDevices line.

Thanks very very much! :-)

Ben Paley



>=20
>=20
> If the desktop environment does not require it, build=20
> x11-servers/xorg-server with the HAL option off.  Otherwise, add
>=20
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>=20
> to the ServerLayout section of xorg.conf.  This is the entire =
xorg.conf=20
> from a 9.1-STABLE VM (with HAL off):
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>   Section "ServerLayout"
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>           InputDevice "Mouse1"
>           # Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off"
>   EndSection
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>   Section "InputDevice"
>           Identifier "Mouse1"
>           Driver "vboxmouse"
>   EndSection
>=20
> Autoconfiguration of everything else works.  The AutoAddDevices line =
is=20
> not present on mine, uncomment it to disable HAL.

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I'm getting weird things happening when I use cp -a to copy files from 
an ntfs volume to zfs. On a few files I'm seeing:

cp: /data/<snip>avi: Bad address

(This is the destination file name)

I'm also getting some like:

cp: sourcename<snip>avi: Permission denied

These are, so far, weird files - sometimes in the Windows recycle bin; 
sometimes files originating on a Macintosh and uncompressed to the ntfs 
volume on a Windows box - particularly the "Bad Address" version. I 
don't mind permission denied.

Although it's affected less than 1% of the files, and I don't care about 
them, I still want to know what's going on.  I assume that something is 
passing back an EFAULT (error 14) and decoding it using libc. EFAULT is 
defined as:

Bad address.  The system detected an invalid address in attempting to 
use an argument of a call.


Having trawled through the source the only place an error message in 
this format could come from is seems to be directory searching code in 
cp.c, which doesn't make a lot of sense (around like 285 in 10.0-RELEASE).

I don't even know whether to blame ZFS or ntfs-3g, although EFAULT 
errors have been noted as a problem with the latter in other posts 
questioning its reliability.

Does anyone know what's going on here?

Thanks, Frank.


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On 30/01/2014 19:24, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
> I'm getting weird things happening when I use cp -a to copy files from 
> an ntfs volume to zfs. On a few files I'm seeing:
>
> cp: /data/<snip>avi: Bad address
>
> (This is the destination file name)
>
> I'm also getting some like:
>
> cp: sourcename<snip>avi: Permission denied
>
> These are, so far, weird files - sometimes in the Windows recycle bin; 
> sometimes files originating on a Macintosh and uncompressed to the 
> ntfs volume on a Windows box - particularly the "Bad Address" version. 
> I don't mind permission denied.
>
> Although it's affected less than 1% of the files, and I don't care 
> about them, I still want to know what's going on.  I assume that 
> something is passing back an EFAULT (error 14) and decoding it using 
> libc. EFAULT is defined as:
>
> Bad address.  The system detected an invalid address in attempting to 
> use an argument of a call.
>
>
> Having trawled through the source the only place an error message in 
> this format could come from is seems to be directory searching code in 
> cp.c, which doesn't make a lot of sense (around like 285 in 
> 10.0-RELEASE).
>
> I don't even know whether to blame ZFS or ntfs-3g, although EFAULT 
> errors have been noted as a problem with the latter in other posts 
> questioning its reliability.
>
> Does anyone know what's going on here?
>
> Thanks, Frank.
>

Further to this, looking more closely at various files they were almost 
certainly encrypted to the user. Attempting to open them results in read 
error. For some reason cp displays "Permission denied" and the source 
file name OR "Bad address" and the destination file name, and I can't 
see anything different about the files in question. That the files 
cannot be read is okay - they're supposed to be encrypted. Why some of 
the error messages are misleading remains a question.



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Hello :-)

Some time ago I have definitely moved from EXT2 to UFS2. This greatly
improved my speed and stability on FreeBSD, but I somehow lost access
and portability for other OS in "native" read-write mode. I am looking
for an universal fs driver for other OS mainly Linux and Windows that
would allow me to use UFS(2) natively (such as ext2fsd). I am sure
there is already such solution, as fs standard is open and BSD
licensed, so other OS would surely benefit from that support/driver
:-)

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:41:13 +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
> Hello :-)
> 
> Some time ago I have definitely moved from EXT2 to UFS2. This greatly
> improved my speed and stability on FreeBSD, but I somehow lost access
> and portability for other OS in "native" read-write mode.

The lowest common denominator is msdosfs (DOS FAT) which is
usable in r/w nearly everywhere. If you require long file
names, you need the 16 bit version. This is commonly considered
the "typical solution" for the problem you're describing, even
though it doesn't really look any attractive because, as I
said, it's the _lowest_ common denominator where "lowest" is
determined by the inability of "Windows" products to be
willing to accept anything that isn't made, approved, certified
and sold by MICROS~1. :-)



> I am looking
> for an universal fs driver for other OS mainly Linux and Windows that
> would allow me to use UFS(2) natively (such as ext2fsd).

The _most universal_ file system isn't even a file system.
Instead, it's tar. Yes, really: "tar-formatted" media can
be read almost everywhere (DOS, IRIX, Solaris, BSD, Linux,
AIX etc.). Everything you need is a tar implementation on
the target system. It works with almost all media (floppy
disks, CD, DVD, USB drives, SD cards, even hard disks).
The major downside is that it isn't really a file system.
It's good for transfer from A to B, but not for adding,
changing or removing files...



> I am sure
> there is already such solution, as fs standard is open and BSD
> licensed, so other OS would surely benefit from that support/driver
> :-)

No, something like that doesn't exist because nobody cares
about interoperability of data. :-)




-- 
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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:41:13 +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
>> Hello :-)
>>
>> Some time ago I have definitely moved from EXT2 to UFS2. This greatly
>> improved my speed and stability on FreeBSD, but I somehow lost access
>> and portability for other OS in "native" read-write mode.
>
> The lowest common denominator is msdosfs (DOS FAT) which is
> usable in r/w nearly everywhere. If you require long file
> names, you need the 16 bit version.

Hey Polytropon :-) I need large files over 4GB and some existing
access riight not to be modified so FAT does not apply, also extFAT is
patented so I wont give it even a try...


> The _most universal_ file system isn't even a file system.
> Instead, it's tar. Yes, really: "tar-formatted" media can
> (..)
> It's good for transfer from A to B, but not for adding,
> changing or removing files...

For archives maybe yes, but I need it as live r/w filesystem, just
like I used EXT2 - lets say three small OS partitions and one large
data partition on the workstation :-)

>> I am sure
>> there is already such solution, as fs standard is open and BSD
>> licensed, so other OS would surely benefit from that support/driver
>> :-)
>
> No, something like that doesn't exist because nobody cares
> about interoperability of data. :-)

How about UFS2 driver for other OS? Is UFS2 endianness sensitive? Even
if, on one machine that would not be the problem :-)

Did anyone implement public UFS2 driver for other OS (Windows, Linux)?

Best regards :-)
Tomek

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> On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:41:13 +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
> > Hello :-)
> >
> > Some time ago I have definitely moved from EXT2 to UFS2. This greatly
> > improved my speed and stability on FreeBSD, but I somehow lost access
> > and portability for other OS in "native" read-write mode.
>
> The lowest common denominator is msdosfs (DOS FAT) which is
> usable in r/w nearly everywhere. If you require long file
> names, you need the 16 bit version. This is commonly considered
> the "typical solution" for the problem you're describing, even
> though it doesn't really look any attractive because, as I
> said, it's the _lowest_ common denominator where "lowest" is
> determined by the inability of "Windows" products to be
> willing to accept anything that isn't made, approved, certified
> and sold by MICROS~1. :-)


There's also UDF which doesn't suffer from a lot of the issues the
FAT16/32/32x does on large-ish devices.  FreeBSD, Windows, Linux, MacOSX
all support read/write to UDF, although it may depend on the OS version for
Windows (I think XP needs a 3rd party driver).=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B

I've used UDF successfully on USB drives, although I don't think you can
boot off it.

--=20
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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's also UDF which doesn't suffer from a lot of the issues the
> FAT16/32/32x does on large-ish devices.  FreeBSD, Windows, Linux, MacOSX
> all support read/write to UDF, although it may depend on the OS version for
> Windows (I think XP needs a 3rd party driver).
> I've used UDF successfully on USB drives, although I don't think you can
> boot off it.

Yess, thats what I need! Thank you Freddie, I will try it out!! :-)

No need to boot of data partition anyway.. and I remember some UDF
related issues on mkisofs port some time ago.. but this might be the
best solution also for data storage on a HD and seems non -endian
problematic  :-) :-)

Best regards! :-)
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31.01.2014 19:20, Freddie Cash написав(ла):
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:41:13 +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
>>> Hello :-)
>>>
>>> Some time ago I have definitely moved from EXT2 to UFS2. This greatly
>>> improved my speed and stability on FreeBSD, but I somehow lost access
>>> and portability for other OS in "native" read-write mode.
>>
>> The lowest common denominator is msdosfs (DOS FAT) which is
>> usable in r/w nearly everywhere. If you require long file
>> names, you need the 16 bit version. This is commonly considered
>> the "typical solution" for the problem you're describing, even
>> though it doesn't really look any attractive because, as I
>> said, it's the _lowest_ common denominator where "lowest" is
>> determined by the inability of "Windows" products to be
>> willing to accept anything that isn't made, approved, certified
>> and sold by MICROS~1. :-)
>
>
> There's also UDF which doesn't suffer from a lot of the issues the
> FAT16/32/32x does on large-ish devices.  FreeBSD, Windows, Linux, MacOSX
> all support read/write to UDF, although it may depend on the OS version for
> Windows (I think XP needs a 3rd party driver).​​

Waaaaait. This doesn't mean FreeBSD can mount UDF for read/write, 
doesn't it?

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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrko <c.kworr@gmail.com>wrot=
e:

> 31.01.2014 19:20, Freddie Cash =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=B2=
(=D0=BB=D0=B0):
>
>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
>>
>>  On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:41:13 +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello :-)
>>>>
>>>> Some time ago I have definitely moved from EXT2 to UFS2. This greatly
>>>> improved my speed and stability on FreeBSD, but I somehow lost access
>>>> and portability for other OS in "native" read-write mode.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The lowest common denominator is msdosfs (DOS FAT) which is
>>> usable in r/w nearly everywhere. If you require long file
>>> names, you need the 16 bit version. This is commonly considered
>>> the "typical solution" for the problem you're describing, even
>>> though it doesn't really look any attractive because, as I
>>> said, it's the _lowest_ common denominator where "lowest" is
>>> determined by the inability of "Windows" products to be
>>> willing to accept anything that isn't made, approved, certified
>>> and sold by MICROS~1. :-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> There's also UDF which doesn't suffer from a lot of the issues the
>> FAT16/32/32x does on large-ish devices.  FreeBSD, Windows, Linux, MacOSX
>> all support read/write to UDF, although it may depend on the OS version
>> for
>> Windows (I think XP needs a 3rd party driver).=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
>>
>
> Waaaaait. This doesn't mean FreeBSD can mount UDF for read/write, doesn't
> it?


I'd have to re-test it at home, but I'm pretty sure it worked on FreeBSD 9
as well.


--=20
Freddie Cash
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Hi all,

I am trying out the new iSCSI target of FreeBSD 10.0.

I was looking at the man pages of  ctld and ctlconf,  and the handbook page
for iscsi on FreeBSD 10.0. I cannot find how to set the queuedepth for a
LUN iSCSI target in FreeBSD 10.0; can someone point me to the correct place
to configure this setting.

Thanks in advance.

Sachin

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In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 504, Issue 5, Message: 31
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:13:01 -0800 Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> wrote:
 > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Joshua Smith <juicewvu@gmail.com> wrote:
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Not so, Michael.  From /etc/rc.d/ipfw

ipfw_prestart()
{
	if checkyesno dummynet_enable; then
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	fi
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ipfw_nat.ko is compiled with libalias, and works fine with GENERIC.

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Over the last few months I started noticing that my FreeBSD/amd64
desktop box would often come up with a date of Jan 1, 2008 after
boot.  Presumably the CMOS battery was dying and the motherboard
picked a date from its year of manufacture.

So I replaced the CR2032 battery on the motherboard and reapplied
the BIOS settings that had been lost during the change.  Unfortunately,
I'm still greeted with

atrtc0: WARNING: Battery failure indication
Invalid time in real time clock.
Check and reset the date immediately!

Incongruously, the RTC time is actually correct.  Well, off by a
minute or so.  Clearly the new battery is good.

I guess this is more a PC question, but how do I get the RTC to
indicate a valid time again?  The motherboard manual (Asus) is
rather silent on the whole issue of CMOS battery replacement.

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On 02/01/2014 09:07 AM, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Over the last few months I started noticing that my FreeBSD/amd64
> desktop box would often come up with a date of Jan 1, 2008 after
> boot.  Presumably the CMOS battery was dying and the motherboard
> picked a date from its year of manufacture.
>
> So I replaced the CR2032 battery on the motherboard and reapplied
> the BIOS settings that had been lost during the change.  Unfortunately,
> I'm still greeted with
>
> atrtc0: WARNING: Battery failure indication
> Invalid time in real time clock.
> Check and reset the date immediately!
>
> Incongruously, the RTC time is actually correct.  Well, off by a
> minute or so.  Clearly the new battery is good.
>
> I guess this is more a PC question, but how do I get the RTC to
> indicate a valid time again?  The motherboard manual (Asus) is
> rather silent on the whole issue of CMOS battery replacement.
>

I've seen something similar to this before.  A good solution
is to use ntpdate at boot to initially set the time properly,
and the run ntpd to keep it correct.  Both are enabled
via /etc/rc.conf.

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Seems it is not possible or did someone on the list manage? Ironic as 
they use FBSD for distribution it seems.

//per

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On 2/1/2014 10:23 AM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Seems it is not possible or did someone on the list manage? Ironic as
> they use FBSD for distribution it seems.

The Netflix in-browser player is a Silverlight app, so you're limited to 
Windows and Mac OS X.  It will work within a VM guest if the VM can do 
hardware graphics acceleration.


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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM, CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There's also UDF which doesn't suffer from a lot of the issues the
>> FAT16/32/32x does on large-ish devices.  FreeBSD, Windows, Linux, MacOSX
>> all support read/write to UDF, although it may depend on the OS version for
>> Windows (I think XP needs a 3rd party driver).
>> I've used UDF successfully on USB drives, although I don't think you can
>> boot off it.
>
> Yess, thats what I need! Thank you Freddie, I will try it out!! :-)

UDF disk does not work on FreeBSD :-(

I can create filesystem on a file, but not a memory disk (not
supported on my operating system yet). Then I cannot mount both of
them anyway.

Dead end for UDF disk on FreeBSD?

Is seems possible on Linux and Windows though:
http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article93/usb-udf



root@hexagon:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=udf.bin bs=64k count=128k
131072+0 records in
131072+0 records out
8589934592 bytes transferred in 111.747670 secs (76869026 bytes/sec)
root@hexagon:~ # newfs_udf -L UDFTEST udf.bin
Opening device udf.bin

UDF device udf.bin is a regular file
bufcache thread initialising


Disc info for disc in device udf.bin
MMC profile        : Unknown[0] profile
sequential         :  no
recordable         : yes
erasable           :  no
blankable          :  no
formattable        :  no
rewritable         : yes
mount raineer      :  no
packet writing     :  no
strict overwrite   :  no
blocking number    : 1
disc state         : random writable
last session state : incomplete
sectorsize         : 512
Number of sessions     1
Session 0
start  at         0
ends   at         16777216
length for        16777216
next writable at  16777217
free blocks       0
packet size       64

Creating a filingsystem on a recordable rewritable CD-RW or
DVD+RW/DVD-RW or fixed length file
Free unallocated space on this volume 8587442688
Closing disc
Dismounting disc
syncing disc
syncing  `4dc9e13a`:`00001674`:`UDFTEST`
syncing data
                syncing nodes
                used/freed space tables
Closing logical volume `4dc9e13a`:`00001674`:`UDFTEST`
wait for syncing disc to idle
stopping bufcache thread
bufcache thread joining
signal disc its finished with writing
wait for final disc idling
close device
Disc access statistics
sector reads          1  (0 Kbyte)
sector written     4267  (2133 Kbyte)
switches              3

root@hexagon:~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=udf2.bin bs=64k count=8k
8192+0 records in
8192+0 records out
536870912 bytes transferred in 7.191754 secs (74650899 bytes/sec)
root@hexagon:~ # mdconfig -a -f udf2.bin
md0
root@hexagon:~ # newfs_udf -L UDFTEST2 /dev/md0
Opening device /dev/md0

Got error executing SCSI command, assuming IDE disc
 UDF: no explicit support for disc devices yet for this operating system.
: No such file or directory
Trying readonly access...
: No such file or directory
UDF: warning... reading/writing on 'disc' device
bufcache thread initialising


Disc info for disc in device /dev/md0
MMC profile        : Unknown[0] profile
sequential         :  no
recordable         :  no
erasable           :  no
blankable          :  no
formattable        :  no
rewritable         :  no
mount raineer      :  no
packet writing     :  no
strict overwrite   :  no
blocking number    : 1
disc state         : random writable
last session state : complete/closed disc
sectorsize         : 512
Number of sessions     1
Session 0
start  at         0
ends   at         0
length for        0
next writable at  0
free blocks       0
packet size       0

Can't create filingsystem on a non recordable disc
Closing disc
Dismounting disc
dismounting readonly disc
stopping bufcache thread
bufcache thread joining
Disc access statistics
sector reads          0  (0 Kbyte)
sector written        0  (0 Kbyte)
switches              0

root@hexagon:~ # mount_udf -v /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp
mount_udf: /dev/md0: Invalid argument
root@hexagon:~ # mdconfig -d -u 0

root@hexagon:~ # mount_udf -v udf.bin  /mnt/tmp
mount_udf: udf.bin: Invalid argument
root@hexagon:~ # mdconfig -a -f udf.bin
root@hexagon:~ # mount_udf /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp
mount_udf: /dev/md0: Invalid argument

Did I miss anything? :-(


-- 
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info

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Hi,

Does it make sense to ask wether its possible to have 64 bit Linux =
emulation in a jail?

And if it does make sense, is there a road map for such a thing?

- aurf


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On 2014-01-29, Kenneth Hatteland<kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no>  wrote:

> My system always have had problems getting my HP cp1515n to work. But
> installing HPLIP from ports, then installing HPIJS with pkg_add -rf will
> get the correct PPDs to show up in CUPS.
>
>    After swithcing to pkgng it does not seem to exist a force option so
> I have to do all my prints on another machine, which is slightly
> annoying. I have read man pages and googled but can not seem to find a
> force funtion. Does anybody know about one or have a better way of
> making the right PPDs install to get my printer going ? Having only
> HPLIP, or HPIJS installed does not make this possible.
>
> Thanks in advance, Kenneth Hatteland

/Have a look at the pkg-add(8) man page. Specifically, the -f option.
This provides the force function you need I believe. Or you might be
able to build it as a port to get it installed.
/

/pkg-add is used when you have downloaded a pkg tarball manually.
Virtually always you probably want to use pkg-install -- as this will
handle automatically fetching the package and any dependencies from a
repository.  pkg-install understands '-f' to force installation.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

/
/-- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. I have tried pkg install -f hpijs ( 
after installing hplip via ports) ===> Cleaning for 
foomatic-filters-4.0.17 ===> Cleaning for hplip-3.14.1 
root@Europa:/usr/ports/print/hplip # pkg install -f hpijs Updating 
repository catalogue The following 1 packages will be installed: 
Installing hpijs: 2.1.4_6 The installation will require 3 MB more space 
0 B to be downloaded Proceed with installing packages [y/N]: y Checking 
integrity...pkg: WARNING: locally installed foomatic-filters-4.0.17 
conflicts on /usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip with: - hpijs-2.1.4_6 pkg: 
WARNING: locally installed hplip-3.14.1 conflicts on 
/usr/local/bin/hpijs with: - hpijs-2.1.4_6 
root@Europa:/usr/ports/print/hplip # So it does not seem to have a 
working force function. In the olden days pkg_add -f hpijs here hammered 
the file in with the same complaints, but with a working printer and a 
correct HPcp1515n.ppd available in cups. Any suggestions to work aorund 
this ? Blessed be , Kenneth /


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I set up a 9.2 system following the "RootOnZFS" instructions in the wiki. I
have:

# zpool status
  pool: zroot
 state: ONLINE
  scan: none requested
config:

        NAME         STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        zroot        ONLINE       0     0     0
          gpt/disk0  ONLINE       0     0     0

I have another disk that I'd like to add to expand the size of the volume,
but I'm not sure how to do that.

I've prepped the disk with:

gpart create -s gpt ada1
gpart add -t freebsd-zfs -l disk1 ada1

I tried a few different things, but I'm clearly not getting something:

# zpool add zroot /dev/gpt/disk1

cannot add to 'zroot': root pool can not have multiple vdevs or separate
logs


Any pointers would be greatly appreciated...


Patrick

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$ sudo freebsd-update install
Installing updates...
/: write failed, filesystem is full
install: ///boot/kernel/INS@9Y2g: No space left on device

Kernel updates have been installed.  Please reboot and run
"/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again to finish installing updates.

I was just doing an update from FreeBSD 9.2 to 10, and my root partition
filled up on the first "install" stage (after running freebsd-update -r
10.0-RELEASE upgrade). Is there a way I can redo that first "freebsd-update
install" step? I'm concerned that the files didn't get copied over fully,
and rebooting may leave me with a broken system.

*checks man page*

Okay, so looks like I'll be doing freebsd-update rollback and start over.
Seems like freebsd-update should detect an error like a write failed
though...

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Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:

> atrtc0: WARNING: Battery failure indication
> Invalid time in real time clock.
> Check and reset the date immediately!
> 
> Incongruously, the RTC time is actually correct.  Well, off by a
> minute or so.  Clearly the new battery is good.

Turns out I misunderstood this.  I thought the system time was still
set from the RTC despite the warning.  It isn't.  Instead, it is
set from the time stamp of the root file system.  That's why I lose
about a minute--that's the time it takes the machine to reboot.

-- 
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de


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On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:51:46 -0800, Patrick <gibblertron@gmail.com> wrote:
> $ sudo freebsd-update install
> Installing updates...
> /: write failed, filesystem is full
> install: ///boot/kernel/INS@9Y2g: No space left on device
>=20
> Kernel updates have been installed.  Please reboot and run
> "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again to finish installing updates.
>=20
> I was just doing an update from FreeBSD 9.2 to 10, and my root partition
> filled up on the first "install" stage (after running freebsd-update -r
> 10.0-RELEASE upgrade). Is there a way I can redo that first "freebsd-upda=
te
> install" step? I'm concerned that the files didn't get copied over fully,
> and rebooting may leave me with a broken system.
>=20
> *checks man page*
>=20
> Okay, so looks like I'll be doing freebsd-update rollback and start over.
> Seems like freebsd-update should detect an error like a write failed
> though...

You just need to install and boot into the new kernel before running
'freebsd-update install' again, e.g.:

* make buildkernel installkernel

OR

* download and extract the appropriate release kernel.txz for your arch
  (e.g. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/10.0-RELEASE/)

Once you finish the full upgrade you should delete your data directory
(defaults to /var/db/freebsd-update) to avoid rolling back to an
inconsistent state in the future.


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Subject: Re: No space left on device during freebsd-update install (stage 1)
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On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Benjamin Lee <ben@b1c1l1.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:51:46 -0800, Patrick <gibblertron@gmail.com> wrote:
> > $ sudo freebsd-update install
> > Installing updates...
> > /: write failed, filesystem is full
> > install: ///boot/kernel/INS@9Y2g: No space left on device
> >
> > Kernel updates have been installed.  Please reboot and run
> > "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install" again to finish installing updates.
> >
> > I was just doing an update from FreeBSD 9.2 to 10, and my root partition
> > filled up on the first "install" stage (after running freebsd-update -r
> > 10.0-RELEASE upgrade). Is there a way I can redo that first
> "freebsd-update
> > install" step? I'm concerned that the files didn't get copied over fully,
> > and rebooting may leave me with a broken system.
> >
> > *checks man page*
> >
> > Okay, so looks like I'll be doing freebsd-update rollback and start over.
> > Seems like freebsd-update should detect an error like a write failed
> > though...
>
> You just need to install and boot into the new kernel before running
> 'freebsd-update install' again, e.g.:
>
> * make buildkernel installkernel
>
> OR
>
> * download and extract the appropriate release kernel.txz for your arch
>   (e.g. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/10.0-RELEASE/)
>
> Once you finish the full upgrade you should delete your data directory
> (defaults to /var/db/freebsd-update) to avoid rolling back to an
> inconsistent state in the future.
>
>
> --
> Benjamin Lee
> http://www.b1c1l1.com/
>


Yeah, except that there was an error installing the new kernel, so it
seemed risky to reboot into a potentially incomplete kernel. I opted to use
the rollback command. That part seemed to go okay, but now when I try to
upgrade, I get:

Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.

Fetching public key from update2.freebsd.org... done.

Fetching metadata signature for 9.2-RELEASE from update2.freebsd.org...
done.

Fetching metadata index... done.

Fetching 2 metadata files... done.

Inspecting system... done.


The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed:

kernel/generic world/base world/games


The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed:

src/src world/doc


Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y


Fetching metadata signature for 10.0-RELEASE from update2.freebsd.org...
done.

Fetching metadata index... done.

Fetching 1 metadata patches. done.

Applying metadata patches... done.

Fetching 1 metadata files... done.


The update metadata is correctly signed, but

failed an integrity check.

Cowardly refusing to proceed any further.


And replacing /var/db/freebsd-update with a clean directory doesn't make a
difference.


*sobs*

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Hi,

The old pkg_create command had the option to recursively create a
package and all its dependancies. I can't seem to find the equivalent
in pkgng. Can someone enlighten me as to how this can be done?

Cheers.
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