From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 00:22:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E29F1690 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (e.febed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 986A12B21 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s7A0PV8n092436; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:25:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:19:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Tracy Williams Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:22:14 -0000 I call your attention to the line at the end of this and every message on the list: > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Do so from the address that you would like unsubscribed. HTH. On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Tracy Williams wrote: > Could you please unsubscribe me. I tried to do it online but I don't > have a clue what my password isThank you > Kind reagrds > Tracy > >> From: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org >> Subject: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 531, Issue 10 >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:55:24 +0000 >> >> Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org [ Digest snipped ] > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 03:41:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 081109DD for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 03:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B052E3B for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 03:41:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 36274535 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:41:53 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s7A3fruf075394 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:41:53 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s7A3fqxR075393 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:41:52 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:41:52 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 Message-ID: <20140810034152.GA75345@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <4CA0146F-BD4E-4613-9050-DB0C1FDB7EA4@lafn.org> <53C8B7A2.1060504@my.hennepintech.edu> <494D0D9E-ED60-4187-ABCF-8E18CDEAB911@lafn.org> <53C8E2A7.6000000@my.hennepintech.edu> <20140809150815.GA65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <53E68BD0.5090209@my.hennepintech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E68BD0.5090209@my.hennepintech.edu> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 03:41:57 -0000 Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.08.09 10:08, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Andrew Berg wrote: > >> The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to > >> just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does > >> nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with > >> svn and then build and install it. > > > > Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patches > > after upgrading a system from source? > Since you have your own changes, no. I don't have any own changes other than a custom kernel sometimes. > IIRC, there are instructions in the > announcements for building only what has changed so that you do not need to > rebuild the entire world and kernel. Not all my boxes have enough resources (CPU or disk space or network bandwidth for NFS mounting /usr/{src,obj}) to build world from source. So I find freebsd-update very useful. And the instructions in the announcements mostly end up with "and recomile your operating system :)" -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 04:43:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5F8DF4E for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77E072405 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B01524C5D; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:43:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7A4hHBM002007; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:43:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:43:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: tcsh login question .... Message-Id: <20140810064317.6e1dff78.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> References: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:43:26 -0000 On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:27:12 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop, or login w/ > a console login, everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then > activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way), the /ect/csh.login > file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases, prompt > setting, & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly says > it will be sourced at login, what gives ? I'm using a "cascaded approach" on my system - also using XDM (I prefer it over gdm or kdm), and the C shell as dialog shell. Create the file ~/.xsession with the following content: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc Then create ~/.xinitrc to start your desired window manager or desktop environment (as you know from using the "startx" command), for example like this: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc # ... more initialization if needed, 'n stuff ... exec startxfce4 This also enables you to use "startx" if you should want to dump XDM (even if it's for testing). There is no need anymore to have two initialisation files: .xinitrc is used by startx, but .xsession is required by xdm. This approach makes sure both /etc/csh.cshrc and ~/.cshrc are being read when the shell is started. It's a comfortable way to "inherit" those settings into X. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 04:46:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA821FE7 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EA75241C for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA60324C5D; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:46:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7A4kNw1002025; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:46:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:46:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: BIOS monitoring goodies .... Message-Id: <20140810064623.b4605ba4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> References: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:46:25 -0000 On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:47:29 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... Linux has myriad tools, utilities, apps, etc. (hddtemp, lmsensors, > jwclock, etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info > .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD, could someone point me > to them :-) ? TIA .... I'm just throwing a few words at you. :-) healthd, mbmon, xmbmon, xcpufreq, gkrellm, smartctl, xload, xosview. I have some of them in the lower left corner of my desktop. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 07:02:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BF36495 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E7D52EF5 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CD4598CDCF for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 491C8598CDCC; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:02:39 -0700 From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:02:47 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I've continued to have serious problems with my server crashing, even having identified and removed a bad memory card. Now I see this.... ----- Forwarded message from Cron Daemon = ----- Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:11:00 -0700 (PDT) =46rom: Cron Daemon To: operator@mail.parts-unknown.org Subject: Cron /usr/libexec/save-entropy mv: rename saved-entropy.7 to saved-entropy.8: Operation not permitted ----- End forwarded message ----- and this: Aug 9 23:08:58 home kernel: cat: /var/db/entropy/saved-entropy.7: Input/output error Aug 9 23:08:58 home kernel: Writing entropy file:. Aug 9 23:08:58 home kernel: rm: /var/db/entropy/saved-entropy.7: Operation not permitted Something seems very much to have gone awry: home# ls -al /var/db/entropy=20 total 40 drwx------ 2 operator operator 512 Aug 9 23:55 . drwxr-xr-x 23 root wheel 1024 Aug 9 22:49 .. -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 9 23:55 saved-entropy.1 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 9 23:44 saved-entropy.2 -r-------- 23 operator 4194309 9308160 Aug 9 22:00 saved-entropy.7 home#=20 Notice the group assigned to that saved-entropy.7 file. I assume the ownership should be operator:operator, but I can't change it. I can't remove it. I always get 'operation not permitted'. Looking around on the Internet, I found a suggestion to do: chflags -R noschg So I tacked the filename/path on the end of it, and ... still ... got 'operation not permitted'. I assume this is getting in the way of something. Now what? Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5xkOAAoJEBV64x4SNmArqtwQAIDWIp2TeLr/dS83TKqwH7LW Goc6L9nebNHUd3C41RnVnG6tKyVMeD3wZ5MrqwXUDCSJucE3CDQzx+ip62i9ARht Ay6ZGz9ha2W+E8xqmUk5v44cXUnZxggOWc8kqmPNRmX6FRtLtLqiFljwz1j+c/S9 MKu75CZuIq5xIaetjs7MgIFzIilJKixXpAsq9C0XImVOl6iF564GznH58MxCB1LT 9noxiINrHI2/uC9MCeQxLSuua2HTQFBWgOgRTon3hTWmOonvC21esmxQ6fTLobfW Rwk1VC5mz5ibAUKzHk2MqzSIE9/ainNWwra7k4o1bSBdrhY5IpQ3ozJmTnvHgORG 0F1z4XqD/plisscGyAZX7HmyOP/4hgcmP+G0D4FfE/s+C//B5zyNCfQEEwZoMfv0 qOgEBAMmfchtkmBvOSlFif1ODxeyaDDmde/N8DavcYal9TBGebpL8pNBrwPCBLw2 Vh/FJtoYCL+N2tYLJmcwuqdCWgT5AWzqInNMJk7MYFBB1W22br3x/EuPZZlrUlrY AV8DzZccv+WiQdQ3Ic0s9lUgzMYgq53RfWCWUzcZiDZXthFn3lTi7RlHi30LipG9 kI3mUqwdvuKoRl9wabvVwppMpHsHbP/sju7A+LD+ou4SBlL4zsRNZF8uCq90329j 4IQ67i5WyTCuWaip/MUe =7ZAb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 07:58:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 810B42B3 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27B7D24CF for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7A7wlN8062729 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:58:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s7A7wlN8062729 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s7A7wlN8062729; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53E72634.5050608@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:58:44 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x4NMQJkVgkceh0K5CLjtDk65oaOXgN2fQ" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:58:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --x4NMQJkVgkceh0K5CLjtDk65oaOXgN2fQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/08/2014 08:02, David Benfell wrote: > Something seems very much to have gone awry: >=20 > home# ls -al /var/db/entropy=20 > total 40 > drwx------ 2 operator operator 512 Aug 9 23:55 . > drwxr-xr-x 23 root wheel 1024 Aug 9 22:49 .. > -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 9 23:55 > saved-entropy.1 > -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 9 23:44 > saved-entropy.2 > -r-------- 23 operator 4194309 9308160 Aug 9 22:00 > saved-entropy.7 > home#=20 >=20 > Notice the group assigned to that saved-entropy.7 file. I assume the > ownership should be operator:operator, but I can't change it. I can't > remove it. I always get 'operation not permitted'. >=20 > Looking around on the Internet, I found a suggestion to do: >=20 > chflags -R noschg >=20 > So I tacked the filename/path on the end of it, and ... still ... got > 'operation not permitted'. >=20 > I assume this is getting in the way of something. Now what? >=20 Looks like your bad memory stick has resulted in some corruption being written to your filesystems. What you need to do here is reboot into single user mode (or boot from install media into a shell) and run fsck(8) on your partitions repeatedly until fsck reports a clean filesystem. The commands will be something like: # fsck -f /dev/ada0p1 where you should substitute the correct device name for each of your UFS filesystems. Those can be read from /etc/fstab. Repeat running fsck on each partition until they come up clean, then do the next one. You have to do this with the partition unmounted, or at least mounted read-only (which is what booting into single user gives you: a way to fsck the root partition you just booted from...) fsck will tend to ask you a lot of questions: most of the time you want to say 'yes' to those questions, but be aware that sometimes that can result in deleting files. Have good backups, and ask again here if in any doubt. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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The commands will be > something like: >=20 > # fsck -f /dev/ada0p1 >=20 Thanks! I'm working on the backup now. I still need to get to the bottom of these crashes, though. They're still happening even after removing the bad memory card. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5y6gAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr9o4P/A0UtZfKr4dTerhafEUSpYcH CScw5jEAYIp6WRd09Q5zUhVZDpAO3tUg8nPRY1jBmm9Z+Igo5lFxMjQxTfDeYEnp kJo/fRCutBMnB85rGDei+3b7CYmL6aZvpscLK55PRTa+HiPdLXqVOs1XRY5STMhE ZNVdgH364kmcZsqqiiAxzbP5Yacp/cACfXySU1JMsvh9osPi0xfHva0DnIDIVg3T XYaZahGXNIpCLNxqrvbo66VpIi+zQlPrXiC2hRXbiV7uNydu24yT4ry7V+ed/AZa TpKXdtHTE9FzvB7PNUje4xvdtdnzDiemSywGi48U4dhYn/3xh1Mwd0T/ebcgSJmH Um71ohe+fJdOYpUYHSamt47oVn95o++bAflDmCsr4ejO6fmA0K9Lpv83S7Tdd/z2 N3DG8hBycWc5MWXP3YoFIEE94AkU1R5Vsu2sCdnwmslfl0wrBHTJXAuNg8wHRBH3 ZZjIRvK3/rbXUWgtASf05WHqnUOOVnpTeI07+MZWveBlkr/mSB+k2zA+2G+Rul82 OLh3Jfk/qhyRuzkoZi5hp7WtPJvR+Si10SSBcvRao4AhOYKg44gJetn+lIzh/GQA +cZxpp76Xbfi6Dmm7+MiYtiEfAahVw7tZUVDs8nCUDQG2nr8x7t05mGrXJSrgeUs Jat3RXdTg7A68hihxirA =kYIu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 08:45:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24CBB2DF for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB55228A9 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FAFC27632; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:45:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7A8jNSt003202; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:45:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:45:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140810104523.5ccdaf6f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140810083440.GA59380@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <53E72634.5050608@FreeBSD.org> <20140810083440.GA59380@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:45:29 -0000 On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:34:41 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 08:58:44AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 10/08/2014 08:02, David Benfell wrote: > > > Something seems very much to have gone awry: > > > > > What you need to do here is reboot into single user mode (or boot from > > install media into a shell) and run fsck(8) on your partitions > > repeatedly until fsck reports a clean filesystem. The commands will be > > something like: > > > > # fsck -f /dev/ada0p1 > > > > Thanks! I'm working on the backup now. I still need to get to the > bottom of these crashes, though. They're still happening even after > removing the bad memory card. Those could be side-effects on the file system that were caused by the dfective RAM module. That's why the suggestion to forcedly check the integrity of all file systems is a very good advice. Examination of the hardware is also a thing worth looking into, for example, voltages, temperatures, and CPU "correctness". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 08:57:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6046D67A for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42F3629B1 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409FD598CDCF; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D583598CDCC; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:57:11 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810085710.GB59380@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <53E72634.5050608@FreeBSD.org> <20140810083440.GA59380@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810104523.5ccdaf6f.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810104523.5ccdaf6f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:57:15 -0000 --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:45:23AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > Those could be side-effects on the file system that were caused > by the dfective RAM module. That's why the suggestion to forcedly > check the integrity of all file systems is a very good advice. Fortunately, there's only one. > Examination of the hardware is also a thing worth looking into, > for example, voltages, temperatures, and CPU "correctness". I'm wondering how to do this. The system does have an SMBus, but the smb module doesn't create /dev/smb0 and the tool--I'm forgetting the command name--that will identify the hardware on a system suggests that it's too recent a version to be fully accurate with. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5zPlAAoJEBV64x4SNmArBOIP+wcyBy6AtyPjrEHBshLzEqjf pELKzoDQcch/ToYVOreX1ddYY8HPY5IlvGjE2KBGm9JhSUQBwoHC+29AQL53OrYo NeQuyb9RV5UemRH0k0hEVjGOlIZytXowHVRlu4+V6oTofexA1P6ODO/TjqpWujdu tHA6vOC8PyS4Txh70+7ib+w8Vhq3zmW5OhqkmxLSvMFeqYqrVG+hbAmBn2bKDw5e LoLmfEB0/wgVUtxv51ZORsvBrh+VgEAMbKk6IDGmrGfZwr7AWBmEZa9VeTFaOyre n8pm1Pmpepr+84cwQPlfsZHn0y8+jI2e79FlYBKX8RXC5bCjGKRgvPfhHlP32Nos E4HMtc9b/5tgZ0ckyJD/sxtuzIokaSxhrIxHOst73eFQjZHn7qpuzdeED+gXuCVb ugwOSH7p59vmuFJ6olr72Yz1B3SESuykpfd5e8hywV2fxFpk11U67Zhlo4ajXzSt PwNXltbSRfQ7AUa0XX7sXtDAG3A/jU4TCMak7WwTql+Ltx+p7N0pTXirghigQxid ecXsfzH8J8vizovT9zKnBJLavZ6DQbBw/a47/jfVyYsdvBnU7Dq7PQK+WU0jEB5i uNZtnPJIxKsvmYE3A2jWuiWJeIUOUDihskdBpf8AfG9fofTxLxrAIQcaRwXMoJpu rxd1jadRC4a6SHAlpWwO =ZjTT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 09:01:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE22E831 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EF422A6B for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF1E627692; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:01:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7A91T4C003275; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:01:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:01:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140810110129.14d858ab.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140810085710.GB59380@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <53E72634.5050608@FreeBSD.org> <20140810083440.GA59380@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810104523.5ccdaf6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810085710.GB59380@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:01:31 -0000 On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:57:11 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:45:23AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > Examination of the hardware is also a thing worth looking into, > > for example, voltages, temperatures, and CPU "correctness". > > I'm wondering how to do this. The system does have an SMBus, but the > smb module doesn't create /dev/smb0 and the tool--I'm forgetting the > command name--that will identify the hardware on a system suggests > that it's too recent a version to be fully accurate with. As I'm using a custom kernel, I have set those options: device smbus device iicbus device iicsmb device iicbb device iic It's probably possible to achieve the same goal using loadable modules via /boot/loader.conf. There are some "moving parts" involved to get the whole thing working, and the default installation does not reflect this. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 10:31:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E0B89A4 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3F32415 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7AAVJZR074291; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:31:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ABA3812387; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:31:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:31:19 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: David Benfell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:31:29 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:02:39AM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > Something seems very much to have gone awry: >=20 > home# ls -al /var/db/entropy > total 40 > drwx------ 2 operator operator 512 Aug 9 23:55 . > drwxr-xr-x 23 root wheel 1024 Aug 9 22:49 .. > -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 9 23:55 > saved-entropy.1 > -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 9 23:44 > saved-entropy.2 > -r-------- 23 operator 4194309 9308160 Aug 9 22:00 > saved-entropy.7 > home#=20 >=20 > Notice the group assigned to that saved-entropy.7 file. This looks like a classical example of filesystem corruption. If a filesystem isn't dismounted properly (e.g. because of a crash), you should get a warning during the next boot. And the system would run a filesystem check in "preen" mode (see fsck(8)). If it finds serious errors that cannot be repaired in preen mode, you should get an error message. As others have mentioned, run a full fsck of the filesystem that /var is on =66rom single user mode. Trying to make a backup in this state will probably not work. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT50n3AAoJEED21dyjijPgToYQAJfXA43MnOslYdA1KJLfClIA vrs8lhciRXSYAux3QzQDSUZyTNTHb9BKL59P2IA32DyLbbCWKrsm3WaIHQcrAgB3 9oOLgOWB27kH0TrCm6rGHzozlTMXAuuXKWZZ5fLla86pGbbChd/yK3kaYJB08uuL putwTc1ozk6wnMfndXa+mYOzYTplyazByWBkEvBmQrJFJmXlzBt6/5raBtPLy6ac KkIplCi65JbOZkwzSKbRwTyYsnEc22SmQLIK+BeOLm7HKpSNYLfkEnMCpx7ujSp5 Ba/G5A4rW6SJi3jdPR1IlGJPFFDITds/4B8kdRB6bSjjshC/Ak+apJLsQKlAzqSl j1J3/7AebpSF8WYcj+ghU1/Nu1mJ71Cz/mTsYQFur81eYykt64T2xsGRTJ/N9xzq msldmUJG1tbhwmdp9K3zEe6XljylXL5E+XATUkIuYzlGc1nFri1l9/I701t5KiX8 oE18dAGsHsiOIceDnlsFx5HTgjs1jDGj8hYVx/wMZKknZ1tQV0JtdsuPabVk4pzE bYvjj44r4HdqMwgkPQdTLupAvlS4u4IFqaaicPd3ztuDH+liHFXr8ECHWiUKJnIa jbFnqlotVj8ssQp2ztJmOReFJ1a/miKylJz+5+A6YE7oj+9gM/4AIs8xB4NWmzVW dfNSCrNY0h8WpbRnaUYJ =EA6Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 10:44:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04B82C13 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB31F24F8 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90DA524D21; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:44:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7AAiXik004049; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:44:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:44:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Roland Smith Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Benfell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:44:38 -0000 Allow me a small additional statement: On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:31:19 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > If a filesystem isn't dismounted properly (e.g. because of a crash), you > should get a warning during the next boot. And the system would run a > filesystem check in "preen" mode (see fsck(8)). If it finds serious errors > that cannot be repaired in preen mode, you should get an error message. The problem is: When you do _not_ have background_fsck="NO" in /etc/rc.conf, all this happens in background, and soon you're in XDM and your X session, so you don't get the error message. Still the system continues booting and working "normally" for the price of "silent" file system corruption. In my opinion, this setting should be the default. It's better to have a delay in the boot process, or a _stop_ of the boot process in case a severe file system damage has been detected. I also think it's more important to know about this fact than it is to quickly be guided into a "comfortable environment" that makes you believe everything is okay, while in fact it isn't. This kind of operation also makes sure that you can get aware of the "please re-run fsck" message in case a second pass is required. In the end, you get "file system marked clean", and only _now_ you know that things are okay. > As others have mentioned, run a full fsck of the filesystem that /var is on > from single user mode. Performing this check out of SUM or via live system media is the most convenient strategy. > Trying to make a backup in this state will probably not work. Maybe files cannot be read, or are improperly read (and therefore wrongly represented in the backup). When I do backups, I usually make sure two things: 1st, the file system is _clean_, 2nd, the file system is protected against alteration (r/o mount, or not mounted at all). I know there are "snapshots" (as they exist in relation with fsck, too), but I don't trust them. Many years ago, such a snapshot made it _impossible_ for fsck to do its job. Once it was removed, I got my files back (for the price of a few lost file names, but still better than nothing). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 11:00:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79215D34 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1594D25C5 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7AB0P9k018750; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:00:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4653412521; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:00:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:00:25 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: BIOS monitoring goodies .... Message-ID: <20140810110025.GB26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+pHx0qQiF2pBVqBT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:00:29 -0000 --+pHx0qQiF2pBVqBT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 04:47:29PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 >=20 > .... Linux has myriad tools, utilities, apps, etc. (hddtemp, lmsensors,= =20 > jwclock, etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info=20 > .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD, could someone point me= =20 > to them :-) ? TIA .... For watching the CPU temperature you've got coretemp(4) for Intel CPUs and amdtemp(4) for AMD CPUs. Both report their values through sysctl(8), and bo= th can be loaded as modules. N.B: they're not built into the GENERIC kernel. Just kldload the appropriate module and then do `sysctl -a|grep temperature= `. If you have an ASUSTeK motherboard, the aibs(4) driver gives information ab= out temperatures, voltages and fan speed. You can use smartctl from the sysutils/smartmontools package to monitor the health of harddisks. The disk temperature is given as the attribute name =E2=80=9CTemperature_Celsius=E2=80=9D when you run `smartctl -a /dev/= `. E.g. the sysutils/conky port can be used as a system monitor. 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Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: tcsh login question .... Message-ID: <20140810110733.GC26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WplhKdTI2c8ulnbP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:15:03 -0000 --WplhKdTI2c8ulnbP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 01:27:12PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 >=20 > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop, or login w/= =20 > a console login, everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then=20 > activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way), the /ect/csh.login= =20 > file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases, prompt=20 > setting, & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly says= =20 > it will be sourced at login, what gives ? The /etc/csh.login files is only read by *login* shells. X11 terminal emulators do not always use a login shell. You often need to start the terminal emulator with an option to do that. If you put your customizations in /etc/csh.cshrc instead of /etc/csh.login, that won't be an issue. 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[10.227.41.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.2.12); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:02:40 GMT X-MC-Relay: Forwarding X-MailChannels-SenderId: _forwarded-from|107.201.32.44 X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1407672160667 Received: from [10.0.10.1] (107-201-32-44.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net [107.201.32.44]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:02:30 -0700 Message-ID: <53E75F57.5040907@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:02:31 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Norman Khine Subject: Re: correctly configuring PF with jailed environments References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:02:49 -0000 Norman Khine wrote: > hello, i have a web application running 3 jail environments one for Nginx > Web server, one for MongoDB/Redis and one for my Node.js application > > this is my current pf.conf file > > https://gist.github.com/nkhine/d03ea23a749c47bcc4d0 > > this works, as there is no access to my node app nor any of the dbs from > public interfaces. > > the rules come out as > > # pfctl -s rules > scrub out log on igb0 all random-id min-ttl 15 set-tos 0x1c fragment > reassemble > scrub in log on igb0 all min-ttl 15 fragment reassemble > scrub in all fragment reassemble > > i find that on my webserver i get timeouts and the html application does not > load up quickly! > > also, are there any improvements i can make to this as to ensure a more > secure environment? > > any advice much appreciated > I do not see this as a jail or pf problem. Look at commenting out any mod_* from the httpd.conf file that the html application does not use. Check that the 3 apache jails are not using the same service port (80). Do not use the apache default directory location for holding your html application files. Disable the pf firewall in rc.conf and test if this speeds up apache. 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[94.194.220.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ex2sm31769152wjd.30.2014.08.10.05.30.31 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:30 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810133030.1eb5d617@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:30:35 -0000 On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:44:33 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > Allow me a small additional statement: > > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:31:19 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > If a filesystem isn't dismounted properly (e.g. because of a > > crash), you should get a warning during the next boot. And the > > system would run a filesystem check in "preen" mode (see fsck(8)). > > If it finds serious errors that cannot be repaired in preen mode, > > you should get an error message. > > The problem is: When you do _not_ have > > background_fsck="NO" > > in /etc/rc.conf, all this happens in background, and soon you're > in XDM and your X session, so you don't get the error message. > Still the system continues booting and working "normally" for > the price of "silent" file system corruption. > > In my opinion, this setting should be the default. It's better > to have a delay in the boot process, or a _stop_ of the boot > process in case a severe file system damage has been detected. > I also think it's more important to know about this fact than > it is to quickly be guided into a "comfortable environment" > that makes you believe everything is okay, while in fact it > isn't. > > This kind of operation also makes sure that you can get aware > of the "please re-run fsck" message in case a second pass is > required. In the end, you get "file system marked clean", and > only _now_ you know that things are okay. It's not quite as bad as that. The background fsck is only intended to recover lost space. If it encounters an actual error, it marks the filesystem with a flag that causes a foreground check on the next boot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 12:39:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94306DE3 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x230.google.com (mail-we0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C1532E6D for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q58so7404019wes.21 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:39:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l/SBieuLwz69l3l2LlGGZaf/t8k4PTz0MteD7d7EU9Q=; b=wbnMqAPAdGAYdTMVIJUpkXbp26/BSxKBIGWQJwlbv5J2VY1if6N9kvKTPK4E+Ji+kX lVM4SOQq2P+0Ky/hQF2K+Eg8aUn3nuCBi23ZCSgk9JYYBPZyHLuB3uGxNtmhdLtKq8Ai ngIV+QtBREp0B7dYhb0SRyqVcx09dwPmU+zNRLHzw9U9tc4LzvxSDAwzhXxWxVK9PfoA 9KZD0hngrq59ITo7dfCY5B9dLljGM80U0lwSfWxG0l2dAvT9XifUMhq/UHFcTdI1MK3U ZyEk1DTdc+kwv24IyAPQEWkr7QpTYe5WfNMUj9lPI94G17/T+fJX/Robg0tBcu4IzRFk VUtQ== X-Received: by 10.180.102.130 with SMTP id fo2mr8593059wib.29.1407674393371; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec2dc78.skybroadband.com. [94.194.220.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ej10sm30738921wib.12.2014.08.10.05.39.52 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:39:51 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcsh login question .... Message-ID: <20140810133951.6cec14fd@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140810110733.GC26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> <20140810110733.GC26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:39:55 -0000 On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:07:33 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 01:27:12PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: > > > > > > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop, or > > login w/ a console login, everything under tcsh gets initialized > > AOK. I then activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way), > > the /ect/csh.login file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have > > many aliases, prompt setting, & other goodies which are absent. The > > tcsh manpage clearly says it will be sourced at login, what gives ? > > The /etc/csh.login files is only read by *login* shells. The last time I looked (in KDE 3) KDM did simulate a login, but the more basic managers just provide a fixed environment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 12:42:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 935CAF65 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 557532FDF for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BF2F3CBE6; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:42:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7ACg2hH004653; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:42:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:42:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: RW Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140810144202.2eda9b24.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140810133030.1eb5d617@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810133030.1eb5d617@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:42:12 -0000 On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:30:30 +0100, RW wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:44:33 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > Allow me a small additional statement: > > > > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:31:19 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > > If a filesystem isn't dismounted properly (e.g. because of a > > > crash), you should get a warning during the next boot. And the > > > system would run a filesystem check in "preen" mode (see fsck(8)). > > > If it finds serious errors that cannot be repaired in preen mode, > > > you should get an error message. > > > > The problem is: When you do _not_ have > > > > background_fsck="NO" > > > > in /etc/rc.conf, all this happens in background, and soon you're > > in XDM and your X session, so you don't get the error message. > > Still the system continues booting and working "normally" for > > the price of "silent" file system corruption. > > > > In my opinion, this setting should be the default. It's better > > to have a delay in the boot process, or a _stop_ of the boot > > process in case a severe file system damage has been detected. > > I also think it's more important to know about this fact than > > it is to quickly be guided into a "comfortable environment" > > that makes you believe everything is okay, while in fact it > > isn't. > > > > This kind of operation also makes sure that you can get aware > > of the "please re-run fsck" message in case a second pass is > > required. In the end, you get "file system marked clean", and > > only _now_ you know that things are okay. > > It's not quite as bad as that. The background fsck is only intended to > recover lost space. If it encounters an actual error, it marks the > filesystem with a flag that causes a foreground check on the next boot. Yes - at _next_ boot. And for performing file system checks, it first creates a snapshot. I think I'm the 0.000001% person who got his foot shot because of strange side effects. :-) (And I also lost files due to "too much automatism", but could regain the data; "fsck -yf" isn't always fist choice: "inode corrected" - file present, size 0, data gone.) As much as I like the fast booting process of FreeBSD: In case of something being wrong with the file system, I rather have the time to wait for a full fsck run (can require several minutes on bigger disks) than booting into a "halfway somehow snapshotted partially clean but good-looking" environment. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 12:48:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A20531E5 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22b.google.com (mail-pd0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 789E72027 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z10so9372673pdj.30 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:48:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=COkFPOF5m+/mAwH5yn87cZFUyz+u1hfp17tTBSfOYNA=; b=YWZMaPLCT5ees2FUeAmRR4MV9Qakim8+4K6jooQUAwInFIYzPN8NitCefYilaa5GUl VsrEtPA9rO+Ck1DVUIpdiLjP38orBQSn7IWcZIsWGV1DF/c+Wlil2ZE4yLXcb3RSJgt5 YRUoMP8jKPN/sY3RvRXMSpFE954unAq4EVw47/XW64E7M1FT3MGHxFdmTGoKq1fyKgMu VhJgWUxeHEfC9Ws0MdD5YmrHRgJv30nrUBG7QsFJgxRxg6XNhPJ6z9oGaGc0eflFnQj4 MWQTsIG4XA3iwBp9dhrpU7awM07IBuoNhTEmMm9p9dzIMV1ljOUO5iGCpHFyIG+C2psc Yn5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.196.65 with SMTP id ik1mr765665pac.154.1407674888029; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.118.132 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:48:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140810144202.2eda9b24.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810133030.1eb5d617@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140810144202.2eda9b24.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:48:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file From: Adam Vande More To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: RW , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:48:08 -0000 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Polytropon wrote: > (And I also lost files due to "too much automatism", but could > regain the data; "fsck -yf" isn't always fist choice: "inode > corrected" - file present, size 0, data gone.) Zero length files after fsck are a side effect of SU, not background fsck's. Same thing basically happens on EXT4. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 13:01:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C54FE2DF for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85EB72164 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB4E93CC07; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7AD1I3l004996; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:01:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:01:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140810150118.10951638.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810133030.1eb5d617@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140810144202.2eda9b24.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:01:20 -0000 On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:48:07 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > > (And I also lost files due to "too much automatism", but could > > regain the data; "fsck -yf" isn't always fist choice: "inode > > corrected" - file present, size 0, data gone.) > > > Zero length files after fsck are a side effect of SU, not background > fsck's. Same thing basically happens on EXT4. Yes, I didn't say it had anything to do with background fsck. In fact, it was a "normal" foreground fsck that caused it. But by grep'ing through the disk, 4 hours later I got the data (which I had worked on the whole day) back. :-) The problem that scared me away from background fsck had been the creation of some snapshot, maybe even damaged, that prevented a normal run of foreground fsck, and in the result got me a big data loss. Several years (!) later, I got my data back, like "by accident": removing the snapshot enabled fsck to perform its inteded task normally. It brought back all data and most of the file names and tree structures. See my first posts to this list if you want to read the whole terrible story. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 13:27:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38D0B8DE for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0AC32421 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-94.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.94]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7ADRAaN003193 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:27:10 -0500 Message-ID: <53E774A5.5000505@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:33:25 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: BIOS monitoring goodies .... References: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> <20140810034004.GA35337@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20140810034004.GA35337@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:27:13 -0000 On 08/09/14 22:40, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 04:47:29PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... Linux has myriad tools, utilities, apps, etc. (hddtemp, lmsensors, >> jwclock, etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info >> .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD, could someone point me >> to them :-) ? TIA .... > You'll need to be a little more specific. Then again, ... > > Try ports category "sysutils". > I think we have a winner, thanks ;-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 13:33:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A5E7A3A for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E235B24CB for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-94.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.94]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7ADXaVk006348 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <53E77627.5050602@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:39:51 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: BIOS monitoring goodies .... References: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> <20140810064623.b4605ba4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140810064623.b4605ba4.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:33:38 -0000 On 08/09/14 23:46, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:47:29 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... Linux has myriad tools, utilities, apps, etc. (hddtemp, lmsensors, >> jwclock, etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info >> .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD, could someone point me >> to them :-) ? TIA .... > I'm just throwing a few words at you. :-) > > healthd, mbmon, xmbmon, xcpufreq, gkrellm, smartctl, xload, xosview. > I have some of them in the lower left corner of my desktop. :-) > > > Excellent, & most are in /usr/ports/sysutils .... *yippee* !!!! -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:12:39 -0400 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:17:59 -0000 It is the difference between SysV and BSD behavior...=20 ps -ef is SysV=20 ps -aux(www) is BSD They each return slightly different information. Solaris used to include bot= h, which you got depended on your path :-) Sent from my portable device > On Aug 9, 2014, at 11:18, "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote= : >=20 >> On 08/09/14 10:01, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>=20 >>> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps >>> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... >> What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. >=20 >=20 > Thanks, I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign :-/ .= ... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. 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Message-ID: <20140810103628.69fb12ff@morena.maps.net> In-Reply-To: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> References: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:36:39 -0000 El Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:27:12 -0500 "William A. Mahaffey III" escribi=F3: >=20 >=20 > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop, or login > w/ a console login, everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I > then activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way), > the /ect/csh.login file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many > aliases, prompt setting, & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh > manpage clearly says it will be sourced at login, what gives ? >=20 >=20 In the man page of tcsh says: Non-login shells read only /etc/csh.cshrc and ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc on star= tup. 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Once these account holder credentials are collected = they can then be used to commit wire fraud or other similar activities of a= criminal nature. 39 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 22:26:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D61CB4F for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ADD22710 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D0C5991D24; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB9D25991D22; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:25:25 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810222523.GA24036@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <53E72634.5050608@FreeBSD.org> <20140810083440.GA59380@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810104523.5ccdaf6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810085710.GB59380@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810110129.14d858ab.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810110129.14d858ab.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:26:09 -0000 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:01:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > As I'm using a custom kernel, I have set those options: >=20 > device smbus > device iicbus > device iicsmb > device iicbb > device iic >=20 > It's probably possible to achieve the same goal using > loadable modules via /boot/loader.conf. There are some > "moving parts" involved to get the whole thing working, > and the default installation does not reflect this. :-) >=20 I haven't looked at the rest of this thread yet, but modules indeed exist for all of the above. Alas, on my system corresponding devices still do not. An additional hardware failure has appeared with one of the lower speed USB ports. Everything else on that card is still working. I had unplugged the mouse from that port and now nothing plugged into that port works (I tried both the mouse and an old Seagate FreeAgent 2TB drive. The drive subsequently worked when plugged into another low speed port on the front of the machine. As to the earlier recommended fsck -fy, I ran it, and indeed had to empty out /lost+found to get to where I could get a clean pass. I think I took a lot of these hits in repeatedly reconstructing databases, but looking over what's left, it looks like some source files may have been lost from both /usr/src and /usr/ports, so I am drawing down fresh copies of those trees. The system has now been up for 3:17PM up 5:30, 4 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.29, 0.36 I'm hopeful. The mess in /var/db/entropy seems a lot more reasonable: total 80 drwx------ 2 operator operator 512 Aug 10 15:11 . drwxr-xr-x 24 root wheel 1024 Aug 10 14:48 .. -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 15:11 saved-entropy.1 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 15:00 saved-entropy.2 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 14:55 saved-entropy.3 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 14:44 saved-entropy.4 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 14:33 saved-entropy.5 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 14:22 saved-entropy.6 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 14:11 saved-entropy.7 -r-------- 1 operator operator 2048 Aug 10 14:00 saved-entropy.8 Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5/FSAAoJEBV64x4SNmAryCUQAKuNQGh4rArbJRPSNPrBw1r4 3hjvvhAX8CBPBw+9HCirQLtMQWLdWGstcf1rII/D7lmDsb6G4X85FjlVPxWhyY96 tts1ymW1lj5KijDiisEwBv6L0VdiusOG8lWUzPZL/faiBUP3vlwjKNKtNceWn5CM ZcdRs14GwgaMoFujhyGwpcO78LA1tWxwIZDB3GWpFCNwPWi1m5+6hxZm8HUFsdiS NcWTFrzNDtYWAPBblbZ6XOLPd86HG+xktYMAuOIG3WiGEeDdKlu47ZhEHiI4VD0/ P7x+JOWGoLNu+nL40TFGNnrHDGqbz4nJ8w1kC1IPdf1OQu7d3Zu//fqfxTJXu5p1 XisVjE3NpYctCvNrtC1H11xgTLG3fwBsEj83Un65cIEEwvSR+ezc8eXegzk5WcIA jxfJLP8ap/xjmDdrbRrOAZZ7GF/2ft6G6/rt7mwjbyo/lvuy6gUkk/oPbjEyWnbu 3CRWcMYCWnhcWIp0Chel1v5rmpBnWmOkwh0QUYUDnc6wKKklNu3j8iFjFlqNMD3Q Rcd/R9rRK8M5DrCHCcyvCLUDM8OOH5k5L8RdhrDyC8RAlCEvJ20JagA7cUrH5G5h 6+6mMd0BumY7n4nltFiCS7ULdccOov3Wl/EPN12IHWsPEntaVcpnVVODYYxGvE4c Cmtlyor8JMp0JC+UfGtr =W3w1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 22:30:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0C86D59 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D30E12738 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C388B5991D25; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 58F4C5991D23; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:29:54 -0700 From: David Benfell To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810222953.GB24036@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810205759.GA74195@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810205759.GA74195@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:30:04 -0000 --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 04:57:59PM -0400, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:02:39AM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > Hello all, > >=20 > > I've continued to have serious problems with my server crashing, even > > having identified and removed a bad memory card. > >=20 > > Now I see this.... >=20 > Fix one problem at a time. It is possible that the corruption to the > filesystem triggered a crash. It is also important to fix the right one problem at a time. I had deferred dealing with what turned out to be a memory issue as I dealt with other stuff, hence the mess I have/had found myself in. But yes, fixing the corruption in the filesystem seems to have helped (see the note I sent a few minutes ago). --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5/JfAAoJEBV64x4SNmArMWUP/i8N4BJtLjjqtUyzEFlAcLL6 t99xNIjVESw9f1clJFajsaUdNBvKHUvrgMz+Xn0H9ntMU0+ASNc2aKWloB8MbD8e 8yVZJepsC+thz57zXazW6uCFuDamHa+iVsju73PxnIZhmCU3ZfQCXPB7FH4qxPsY ooTpNU1CDpFyX4r1q2HnQpHrFalZvDd3ANsrNmQi04YkEe+cLo9hZrqJRFgrCdDd NhQM/K9JxNvekH8gZbMM68NUh/ujQbvA36xb78uAmfDixijmxne/Ew7J6oquB9p1 1QeXsE+f4kVwL/Zd7cKNzKekWq1+ujxNLvy8634vnz8wlkfOu23vy5vA1H5cON2c OHFVVwHzgc95wpHIVEWfDeF8UmjUSuX2BW9esRkgtXCIZRQ3yCs/39GZbGazVbLA VL7cWm4WVyiI5NHhgdvh6DxwHsxj9DMoOPqQBwSRQJk7l4RrVDPrjqMDsQZ7ImLH S1FJFOpwSu9Sm7oDVEmFh22YphKY5HepX7EtCt2HywzAAAria45qXcNpe+uB5LIA vmUbw5oWG5LZtQ53Bln/TAUoysgQ45aTZQapsnQvu6meGsc2cobyvR5DutWamNOq AFJZmgiRI3QazpPk3wmLc5196aie+YBQUXPLnIo0vL6ps0l2t6eJnaqcUfXMYpDK 5H1e/3zPJVyex2w18KLM =g5tq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 22:33:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AE62E03 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ECBE27D3 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECCD5991D23 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 135C65991D22; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:33:09 -0700 From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810223309.GC24036@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:33:20 -0000 --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:31:19PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > As others have mentioned, run a full fsck of the filesystem that /var is = on > from single user mode. >=20 > Trying to make a backup in this state will probably not work. >=20 The system did indeed crash while I was running the backup. Fortunately, not that much was lost that I hadn't already lost. What I had lost, however, seems quantitatively substantial: I had to empty out /lost+found to get to a clean fsck -fy. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5/MkAAoJEBV64x4SNmArjcwP/1aTuLjnCCtyNzRH+Z5gVs5P qLtHzDzaXYtJCrOZrDMcHb/Pa/hzq+LqOfGhhxaQwNJ/LHAU25nPpsIVb4bje9ws yu3m4t8ekD242VuIzZJ84S0ZDFVdfrxSeEyjeq7hr34reai0Hwm0MD4aNPNVRkgD nrais62V3d73I5A5ZOZ/h0Zuic5vJ7SNi6ifliHr0sMlU55wCf4NcDtmx1rCnIHm 1qJ0HuR+c+/NTqC4h+hjgJsd+SVexIwafHAzv9GtJoxFH9IuRkoPzLVb6mU2JZ44 Gz1K/tiP+dSkhRgqnkf+ziJ9Vryaqeuvbvj5OGbVhviZY9qEOpDxsg56iYyqteTZ UV9vSOpWzlb/hkhg9JGpuBuxNDNMTLCnb6Bd4N3oR6TXudVdzvQwRJkgbLlJO60T MT4jb0EJx1Ol+D6Os/jdC5HgBeH1Trh4hPOerjoSv4F4pULWqUDoeN5Hm35dgdle RzxeKjhvXhqAX70yZfdZMwdTx5j/UJuwCGGAQlTSQhBVwpO46S3y+gALCIUkqXlO 20CSVekoIZe49lT0eO92EEu0qXR0I2nYqI0I04kK5Bj6tIrAo8hCQ6ZJn5id5icn UPqH5TqnRgSKJdtHmCD7QhnkO7Wh6Ci8rigIHu+lWgm98yxK+20YQ78Sj3a9poRj DxRKirMu3hWmo/bKfqv3 =dR3n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 22:40:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF1A4190 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 938162811 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436EF5991D23; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0EE885991D22; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:40:39 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:40:56 -0000 --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:44:33PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > Allow me a small additional statement: >=20 > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 12:31:19 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > If a filesystem isn't dismounted properly (e.g. because of a crash), you > > should get a warning during the next boot. And the system would run a > > filesystem check in "preen" mode (see fsck(8)). If it finds serious err= ors > > that cannot be repaired in preen mode, you should get an error message. >=20 > The problem is: When you do _not_ have >=20 > background_fsck=3D"NO" >=20 > in /etc/rc.conf, all this happens in background, and soon you're > in XDM and your X session, so you don't get the error message. > Still the system continues booting and working "normally" for > the price of "silent" file system corruption. I was wondering about this. >=20 > In my opinion, this setting should be the default. It's better > to have a delay in the boot process, or a _stop_ of the boot > process in case a severe file system damage has been detected. > I also think it's more important to know about this fact than > it is to quickly be guided into a "comfortable environment" > that makes you believe everything is okay, while in fact it > isn't. Based on this experience, I agree. And I have now implemented the above setting. I don't think crashes should be treated as normal, especially when, as I do, you have a UPS providing backup power. >=20 > > Trying to make a backup in this state will probably not work. >=20 > Maybe files cannot be read, or are improperly read (and therefore > wrongly represented in the backup). When I do backups, I usually > make sure two things: 1st, the file system is _clean_, 2nd, the > file system is protected against alteration (r/o mount, or not > mounted at all). I know there are "snapshots" (as they exist in > relation with fsck, too), but I don't trust them. Many years ago, > such a snapshot made it _impossible_ for fsck to do its job. Once > it was removed, I got my files back (for the price of a few lost > file names, but still better than nothing). >=20 Perhaps I misunderstand. I thought journaling was supposed to *increase* the robustness of a filesystem. It seems to me that what this amounts to is the contrary. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5/TmAAoJEBV64x4SNmArPgYQAIcn8xiWktUOky0iYx6bJAUm YeqesCwMKZCXgY3ZqHg1Z1d+gdB+ZUYBEmREc5XL4Pn7pr0qphjLMzhPNAsObN4r BX/Xy08bzb4zEd50tKtl5q9R2baNTMv3ruSf/lDYHJxCxllL44uXNoBSmAsvCqsF TKqWipHtymYeIZP4MZ9dj3k6Uqw24ZMeFooVcU8lWorCGq4ezrF+HHH3Y+/SpvuC GhOFeJPmZf37x/tE7Aor2AMOwDWjoQppLk3LrobdYkCPc2BfR98fSaQtZGtOxOaT YrJgKyaxRgeiQbTJqzajNdJGXoGMth+h9dCULikK/a4AbfxKFPY5dtwcJoTnUbmZ ZgJDORJWjEwOXjwP1a252HBH/GQinbzbXBtMaJyAUbVSOivFgls0t55IrzIQ3+eS uDwPRr2INR7qm9A2Y3zgCZHP9X9gTJSid+cMB+DLT1F75Q5avevzbgftKmRd3ziC j5XscgYYfFhfJ7ICHN82GU1qUblY5Y9WDyfY1j/NGziYjroME8wUdlQPSnVbo46Z /jHlGts5eNL2fWyGk+tj41tyhp+1BgsJD4rhB+12slD3HJzayNHePvXq+8q81Eaj j32Ez89OVC/I+Cmq8Ec2m7nfrTUqjTZtJIHIwHx6MNcAi/oGEZcUAxfb2ndbx1yC k1IkrwZmLGSxYrhLYctv =F8ks -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 10 22:52:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F3AD499 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9871029AC for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284C05991D23; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D746E5991D22; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:52:33 -0700 From: David Benfell To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: BIOS monitoring goodies .... Message-ID: <20140810225231.GE24036@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> <20140810110025.GB26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810110025.GB26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 22:52:59 -0000 --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 01:00:25PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 04:47:29PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > .... Linux has myriad tools, utilities, apps, etc. (hddtemp, lmsensors,= =20 > > jwclock, etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info= =20 > > .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD, could someone point me= =20 > > to them :-) ? TIA .... >=20 > For watching the CPU temperature you've got coretemp(4) for Intel CPUs and > amdtemp(4) for AMD CPUs. Both report their values through sysctl(8), and = both > can be loaded as modules. N.B: they're not built into the GENERIC kernel. > Just kldload the appropriate module and then do `sysctl -a|grep temperatu= re`. >=20 coretemp *does* seem to be built into the GENERIC kernel, or at least that's what it told me when I attempted a kldload. I had also earlier looked at the temperatures with a similar command. This is stable/10, by the way. For what it's worth, CPU temperatures seem to be entirely reasonable. When I was running memtest86+, it reported temperatures around 40-45 C. The sysctl command now returns: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 27.8C hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 29.8C dev.cpu.0.temperature: 40.0C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 40.0C dev.cpu.2.temperature: 40.0C dev.cpu.3.temperature: 40.0C > If you have an ASUSTeK motherboard, the aibs(4) driver gives information = about > temperatures, voltages and fan speed. Appreciated. I have added this to the loader.conf on my notebook. > You can use smartctl from the sysutils/smartmontools package to monitor t= he > health of harddisks. The disk temperature is given as the attribute name > =E2=80=9CTemperature_Celsius=E2=80=9D when you run `smartctl -a /dev/`. This will be the next step (I'm still restoring the ports tree). Thanks! >=20 > E.g. the sysutils/conky port can be used as a system monitor. >=20 I'm short a mouse at the moment, so I can't use X, but as I sort my way through this, that can happen later. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5/etAAoJEBV64x4SNmArH+oQAIDNK5AmcDPj51zhuCOjiVoy /bmskUKUQ1bAq/vlZ8tWt74BZfe3cN0EHmpuhWYevpb9NUSVqaT+2LFhXuEzCwWY AGte2LguWsNDxOqWg7DMdRKeWFBZUksBFud/zl/dhKhzs8gEWiTTzv62kLPKdfNT 2lLkndsZzhbZliWuiTTXfbn57/zWAqhVZZ1XplpO+Wim1H+59/i2/iKvVxiz6YFV A1aG9nfZJbe6Ocp8Af0XDS7WwBb3GPjBtCs0ZDvhA5Zrp48xesMVcROycU2zmXOq HQp1S7CkfDV5UBcdPep08RgQoLaCEjXrkxeE7uMpcZRLwHIofjDhWFVybvqWMe9s i1KbgDCmmBCoHpi3E/f5dTmrkQMwLw+lj7jDZU6wGwLJEtOafHMBv+cValmwN/Y/ DFp6XUHvx/+6tN+3W0uFthYYaf4cttjQAD8HSNFIGihdWyiRCnzX5LUZ7IutyLC1 nzcgtaq+/BuGSghlhLkHtLCfQD99bgIQomxRcuFgqcaiqV1AxSND7OvwP0ymPOk5 UFjhOaGYDORzmDpNCgU4sypc6A/Ywvi+Ld2IDkE1//T7IGvBR0+wF+3QH3XCpm+w +UFLbO8UpEpN03gTuP43/8mXOVuSKvhTAUZMl7kaDjqTbQThTUJYVlpth3R7R2e5 YFqLQ2TnVa8kw38Q045j =pz3h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 01:15:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDBF47AE for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F1672637 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7B1974p032136; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:09:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 76F7C123BB; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:09:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:09:07 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140811010907.GA1273@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: David Benfell , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:11 -0000 --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 03:40:39PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > > Trying to make a backup in this state will probably not work. > >=20 > > Maybe files cannot be read, or are improperly read (and therefore > > wrongly represented in the backup). When I do backups, I usually > > make sure two things: 1st, the file system is _clean_, 2nd, the > > file system is protected against alteration (r/o mount, or not > > mounted at all). Definitely. > I know there are "snapshots" (as they exist in > > relation with fsck, too), but I don't trust them. Many years ago, > > such a snapshot made it _impossible_ for fsck to do its job. Once > > it was removed, I got my files back (for the price of a few lost > > file names, but still better than nothing). A problem surfaced in the 8.x - 9.x timeframe where dump(8)-ing a live filesystem (which is done via a snapshot) would hang. At that time the advi= ce was to not make live dumps but to make dumps in single user mode. I'm not sure if the problem was found and rectified yet. I've been making dumps in single user mode ever since, just to be safe. > Perhaps I misunderstand. I thought journaling was supposed to > *increase* the robustness of a filesystem. It seems to me that what > this amounts to is the contrary. Well, UFS (a.k.a. ffs(7) ) doesn't have journaling as such. It does have journaling[1] for *soft updates[2]*. The basic purpose of journaling in this case is to reduce the time to run an fsck. And that works very well. When making backups I drop my system to single user mode and every now and then I run a *full* fsck of every filesystem before running dump(8). But I must say that this usually doesn't find serious problems. The only re= al causes of filesystem corruption that I have encountered have basically been; * dying HDDs * repeated crashes (often also hardware related; memory, power supply, overheating) [1]: http://www.mckusick.com/BSDCan/bsdcan2010.pdf [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_updates Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6BezAAoJEED21dyjijPg0UYP/3zFvE2Lr3dpHIsCJU32uq0K jsD9zh20iD/JrZ6oHxa03h7qW4XMRm2qHxRN2pkyorb98hruPEJ0V3Zag/EAbpSi uUyq417kw1GPPPkMjo5ArBOcvooFsi8/Yk6vCM9xL13oWP91QQT/8cnzJ8dBlw0T yiFWqB0/JZ8EEW78beuLuXost0FCmCodP/DXm+m5JHkv2F0e8/FCV3uxyy+n0Epa jqdnW1zOGmSsEYFlw7phxE1xrutd4R+l+JWEP4uDtyblal6g4EIcjrKappsBDaOB LYEBNIwO43mWUZvINensb1d4Qp9dIvcNgoYCq+XI4zzmRKHT6AKp27TUzF2RQ1Ho Txq73efkFKRzTToaReS2nsmOO5RjRmpNl+DGWCdc7SYYn8Xs36NIaKoMEBI13a73 1EHOsFmL6K85qmThXqweulosfhk/HHsRREuFojutBZMWGP2M+sc6sg9KNQPP5xiw Z7wWnKNfhwissryx4VerChZvOUqVxuTKxn2aUUY2BDK0g9nAqf0HlJ/DzM/PLkLr eKjBEgWqk9WVBY0KgKKK58fQn/fJNw7zKi6ewMSQASMlJCmSsZeHJrDERnWtfTRH 4TehSH9ncTs6lUoGeWlzha9rNoytJshd+yEmOlbwTY7zQ+CFY6aPpX6hB2wPd8QS 87Kt+Lkwg8IRogQxOF1j =xeyh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 03:28:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B08723DF for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us.royaserver.com (unknown [162.223.89.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68E40245F for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:28:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pahlevanzadeh.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID; bh=HzkUyzg7bTX2kD0ptd+n/IiBf1dMpaw6P7KAbJdAnz0=; b=JYrPJ8RhLOUy107vqFxX4yZwdHCFp0GLWpslqvil0sM9jtjP52ImuwsZhCzz39D+5qSiUfu64DLV2FHoWCEavGKpGu9Q3o9Ilrru+SvH2nXN79Zqa+1IY1jVqd8xVcatKR6Sxqm58WG9g153VkqWVcWixVc5wgSiSR1l0NZgQ4U=; Received: from [91.98.212.139] (port=46764 helo=debian) by us.royaserver.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XGgHY-003r70-97 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:58:25 +0430 Message-ID: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> Subject: ident name and kernel 10 From: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:58:02 +0430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.2-1+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - us.royaserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pahlevanzadeh.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: us.royaserver.com: authenticated_id: mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:28:27 -0000 Dear all, I have the following system: ################################### root@bsd10:/home/mohsen # uname -a FreeBSD bsd10 10.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Aug 11 00:40:50 UTC 2014 mohsen@bsd10:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 #################################### According to freebsd handbook, i compiled kernel and but generic kernel exists. my instruction: ################################### cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ mkdir /root/kernels cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYK ln -s /root/kernels/MYK ee /root/kernels/MYK #### I changed ident from GENERIC TO MYK ee /root/kernels/MYK ## add the following options for ipfw firewall(at end of file): //////////////////////////////// options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT ///////////////////////////// make LINT cd /usr/src/ make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK init 6 ########################################## after boot, `uname -i` returns GENERIC , My arch is i386: `uname -p` returns i386 , Where's my problem? Yours, Mohsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 03:37:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E76E52F for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us.royaserver.com (unknown [162.223.89.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 069CD2525 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:37:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pahlevanzadeh.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID; bh=zjY21icB3ZN9wVbD/1pi9jon7VZD7wcNE9nx+DC0bZg=; b=qjU4nBDKRzgkgHR/siwZtNgrV0xt1MOJK2aZToNNe1YXS4CUGxS9e6t2NQp8hTB/OcREYA27RGOKtGRARE3Bm86QEhlYbkPPjpmmUw0pC10IbrLNgq7a0oV4ewSxRSf+QdJb8IMTvTtBDt6nen8OU2mPChucHhVAbYn3dk8W4mI=; Received: from [91.98.168.46] (port=36508 helo=debian) by us.royaserver.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XGbzj-003YzZ-8w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:23:44 +0430 Message-ID: <1407711194.23172.0.camel@debian> Subject: ident name and kernel 10 From: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:23:14 +0430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.2-1+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - us.royaserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pahlevanzadeh.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: us.royaserver.com: authenticated_id: mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:37:10 -0000 Dear all, I have the following system: ################################### root@bsd10:/home/mohsen # uname -a FreeBSD bsd10 10.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Aug 11 00:40:50 UTC 2014 mohsen@bsd10:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 #################################### According to freebsd handbook i compiled kernel and but generic kernel exists. my instruction: ################################### cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ mkdir /root/kernels cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYK ln -s /root/kernels/MYK ee /root/kernels/MYK #### I changed ident from GENERIC TO MYK ee /root/kernels/MYK ## add the following options for ipfw firewall(at end of file): //////////////////////////////// options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT ///////////////////////////// make LINT cd /usr/src/ make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK init 6 ########################################## after boot, `uname -i` returns GENERIC , My arch is i386: `uname -p` returns i386 , Where's my problem? Yours, Mohsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 08:00:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34841873 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECF4C2D30 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9947527678; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:59:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7B7xrPR002194; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:59:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:59:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 Message-Id: <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:00:07 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:58:02 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > my instruction: > ################################### > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ > mkdir /root/kernels > cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYK > ln -s /root/kernels/MYK > ee /root/kernels/MYK #### I changed ident from GENERIC TO MYK > ee /root/kernels/MYK ## add the following options for ipfw firewall(at > end of file): > //////////////////////////////// > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > options IPDIVERT > ///////////////////////////// > make LINT > cd /usr/src/ > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > init 6 > ########################################## Even though this seems to work, it's not how you are supposed to install a kernel today. Have a look at /usr/src/Makefile's comment header: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 2. `make buildworld' # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). # 6. `mergemaster -p' # 7. `make installworld' # 8. `make delete-old' # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). # 10. `reboot' # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) This procedure is a little bit different. Additionally, you can store your own kernel config in /sys/i386/conf (but make a local copy, for example in /root; symlinking is also okay). > after boot, `uname -i` returns GENERIC , > My arch is i386: `uname -p` returns i386 , > Where's my problem? It _may_ be a problem with the procedure you're using, even though you said to have changed the "ident" statement in the kernel configuration file. So maybe you try the recommended procedure first and check the results. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 08:18:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBDC9F56 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9988B204A for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 787F83CEC4; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:18:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7B8IM7P002281; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:18:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:18:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:18:29 -0000 On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:40:39 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:44:33PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > Maybe files cannot be read, or are improperly read (and therefore > > wrongly represented in the backup). When I do backups, I usually > > make sure two things: 1st, the file system is _clean_, 2nd, the > > file system is protected against alteration (r/o mount, or not > > mounted at all). I know there are "snapshots" (as they exist in > > relation with fsck, too), but I don't trust them. Many years ago, > > such a snapshot made it _impossible_ for fsck to do its job. Once > > it was removed, I got my files back (for the price of a few lost > > file names, but still better than nothing). > > > Perhaps I misunderstand. I thought journaling was supposed to > *increase* the robustness of a filesystem. It seems to me that what > this amounts to is the contrary. The Fast File System (FFS, also called UFS), has several iterations and additions: UFS 1 UFS 2 UFS 2 + Soft Updates UFS 2 + Soft Updates + Journaling See "man newfs" and "man gjournal" for details. UFS 1 isn't being used anymore, UFS+SU is the default for everything except the / partition (no SU there), and +J can be added. As it has been mentioned, along with more safety it adds more "moving parts" to the file system implementation. In ultra-worst case, this can lead to (a kind of) data loss. For illustration: In my particular case, I had a file open in the editor, the file was saved and _not_ altered. Then my system froze (due to a defective GPU, known fact here) and I had to force a hard reboot. After fsck had "corrected" file system defects (usually not critical at all, data loss isn't typical, and sometimes you find your stuff in the "lost+found" directory), the file was present, but zero size (empty file). But I could remember some of it's specific content and ran a grep through the whole disk - right after making sure no writes would appear (mount -o ro -f /home). After 4 hours, I found the block where my data had been. I cut the relevant passage from the 10K block and the world was good again. :-) UFS has several features that prevent data loss and corruption. And fsck is to make sure in case of errors, mild errors can be corrected automatically, but severe errors require user attention, which is intended because a wrong (or automatic) decision could make data recovery harder. There are also very few factors that can prevent fsck from doing what it's supposed to do, and the snapshot thing cam be one of them - but again, that's 0.000001% of cases you'll encounter in reality. Keep in mind a system freeze or accidental hard reboot _never_ is something "normal" or acceptable. There's a reason, and there are side effects. Performing a system recovery in a _strictly defined_ environment is the safest way to deal with those cases, both for diagnostics and for repair. But again, that's just my very individual opinion. I like those things to be safe and under monitoring instead of relying on automatisms and magical decisions... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 10:37:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75D0630A for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 426A921A0 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id tr6so9640101ieb.35 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:37:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QC+zx4EY9spyL9J4LyphZk+8UyKErFHrdJcQgz4+XZQ=; b=eAjNZRsAYrGRJWj2nqz+DZrwJ+YYbQGCuTWATxqGblDq9xPBw+5FWbUiqrMiWOw05R xw37enaR5gKHPm7eQULhPjmy/f/0HQK/kiau0n239VANDjSmCKT2rNYttFI/0NT047yp THK/kedTji/Hbp8VLMX+lJt6dGH4GFtwl6eMzRRLCarWOFG8K+h8C+EdfzQI8Stc4pbW vsWTTIZInZN0dtvh5XKhZUbiScLJGnfOMmiOAs4PYhqqwxiKE+Y9IzNy9wmvDytm1xSO pACdN9pmUo443BFOOKM/eef47Fatywt2XdkTFb2abLbddBrD6nMujEztsVQXiHXK+63+ yU3w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl2k1xJw+WCKLNf6+/qOZ+vrg3QP9S8MpTRK7zISuRXXXE17eN5msIE8uHbFB17ogtvlFLQ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.230.212 with SMTP id jn20mr30751775icb.59.1407753436436; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.159.70 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 03:37:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [60.242.115.240] In-Reply-To: <2186C930-ED6A-49F8-984C-7A2CACB20B1A@vindaloo.com> References: <2186C930-ED6A-49F8-984C-7A2CACB20B1A@vindaloo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:37:16 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd64 + VirtualBox on Mac boot issues From: Anders Jensen-Waud To: Christopher Hilton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:37:23 -0000 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Christopher Hilton wrote: > I think this is a VirtualBox problem but I'd like to see if anyone else i= n > the FreeBSD community has seen this problem. Maybe they even have a fix = or > workaround. > > Is anyone using VirtualBox 4.3.14 to host FreeBSD amd64 guests? I'm doing > this with VirtualBox on Mac OS X and I get one of three behaviors when > start the FreeBSD guest: > > o The FreeBSD Guest hangs as Booting=E2=80=A6 > > o The guest loads the kernel but panics before launching init and > userland. > > o The guest boots fine. > > I cannot correlate anything that I'm doing to the guest that makes > VirtualBox behave this way and If I reboot the guest enough times > eventually it starts. My machine is a Core 2 Duo Mac Mini with 8G of RAM. > The guest has 1G of RAM. It runs FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE. > Are the VirtualBox services loaded upon boot in rc.conf? See https://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox -- vboxguest_enable=3D"YES" vboxservice_enable=3D"YES" > > If you need more information please feel free to hit me off-list. 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Best Regards, *Ryan Steans* Sales Advisor Skype: webmarketing.sales From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 14:27:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B486602 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 639082FFD for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AED598D673; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CFF6F598D5F6; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:27:07 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:27:15 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:18:22AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:40:39 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:44:33PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > The Fast File System (FFS, also called UFS), has several > iterations and additions: >=20 > UFS 1 > UFS 2 > UFS 2 + Soft Updates > UFS 2 + Soft Updates + Journaling >=20 > See "man newfs" and "man gjournal" for details. >=20 > UFS 1 isn't being used anymore, UFS+SU is the default for > everything except the / partition (no SU there), and +J can > be added. As it has been mentioned, along with more safety > it adds more "moving parts" to the file system implementation. > In ultra-worst case, this can lead to (a kind of) data loss. I pretty much followed the default installation. But when fsck was doing its thing, I saw a lot of unexpected SU+J inconsistencies. So I'm a little puzzled here: Someone posted that fsck uses journaling (which seems very adventurous for something that shouldn't be needed often) even when the filesystem doesn't normally. And if I don't have soft updates by default, then why are they being reported by fsck? And for reference, I notice that journaling decisions need to be made *prior* to creating the filesystem. This isn't like ext2->ext3->ext4. >=20 > Keep in mind a system freeze or accidental hard reboot _never_ is > something "normal" or acceptable. There's a reason, and there are > side effects. Performing a system recovery in a _strictly defined_ > environment is the safest way to deal with those cases, both for > diagnostics and for repair. But again, that's just my very individual > opinion. I like those things to be safe and under monitoring instead > of relying on automatisms and magical decisions... ;-) >=20 7:24AM up 21:36, 5 users, load averages: 0.20, 0.29, 0.32 By my recent standards on this server, this is stellar. I'll wait for three more hours to report to the vendor, but the fsck advice seems to have solved the problem. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6NK7AAoJEBV64x4SNmArI0IP/jn0cxndgM6UmQWxM30IssAR peutXVHXHKaPWTvE7A8KslUqHqB5mMkmUlC8yqxt0C2Q9btgnhHKYnamJykgIJeb vQxGsxPT9Uj+GDnFo4aOVAypwgcuJAdsjsOI6zRBWnbktUssakD2E+tmfJuKBoc+ eO26uFiBI1cePUDNz+daQ7Nb06mMmdCYmnIhBJqRa8EzHP4/2fYWCDZIaAG6Kttq kXPZFUMpFBMRj7EQylH2OBCH90oZTHFKBYHT7GmnmDugiGkI4d+RHLM7+U6V4JAi VRY72K+lmL39yVRFXj6FHbHIfZNoKxEl+y6HbdWpizUegXTZxvnmYrXyWa8dCCSZ w1/UDjs/Y2kBQ7cF9oVoNz5ExFI226s4vWyulETOOTmVW8HzElHH+j0dDngcuc6i xuDcu4LTdR+fyPGLMKobKQEgBrtG451ugEEqAn3fvx/lYe02l7dCb3+4JrNy6WVu qI7NHAlbbbYQnHQ0p36u1DETH4Hdb+IsnrptDLp+MlURZRaQJ2jQyV0lpGnDTHU+ dISCI7XrYs0AHLXTMECbfexpKkW694yHAHpVYU1SaFlfqFkr9bFibafyDHZvPsoT 9liWqOMd1dmEqn6xfNQsvugQZPUO176O57mHH95NmUXQPpsEIxaj71craL/RrjFW m6TC94BDfrQAs3ARIlWH =i8JR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 14:52:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56E877AF for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x234.google.com (mail-pd0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C26A243E for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v10so9146634pde.39 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UqpptwlMQrporvh7kQbM7vsIJ6nZuKWl3ALZ6Q2zyHs=; b=H65Nss3B0b7Ag0ms4+a/nM938lhTjEpfBjxuJwJpWo5H71kcQz6EJH/TIT7j/bdgCa EUZSYABLUUhr48bKGeSbeQAp9QMEfcZ2EWl7Yv44xjW64i8xw1TYOiLGxJS+8hoZvlXS sUTHN5BgIGuAxY5PmitV5NufRGxxW1HECfNcx2FtJchZ7bUZsxn3DmlwQFSVezFfqjIv fz+lQ7RJ4BTrNjO7I/EKNH7bZ4iG6ZbungAGjuDALJMPQzrh8ShRos7agKegTbFdz1g+ XsuiCaXfsm4qVPVGXpiAKU2KlTx/VFBbemyYd7YZ8iXm57e0DKGHmPg7/Pd4xITuf3SY ehJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.34.16 with SMTP id v16mr1869041pdi.153.1407768720688; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.118.132 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:52:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:52:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file From: Adam Vande More To: David Benfell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:52:01 -0000 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM, David Benfell wrote: > > I pretty much followed the default installation. But when fsck was > doing its thing, I saw a lot of unexpected SU+J inconsistencies. So > I'm a little puzzled here: Someone posted that fsck uses journaling > Of course fsck only uses it when journaling is enabled. > (which seems very adventurous for something that shouldn't be needed > often) even when the filesystem doesn't normally. Try fsck'ing a nearly full TB FS on a production box that has had a dirty unmount and you will begin to appreciate the adventure a bit more. > And if I don't have > soft updates by default, then why are they being reported by fsck? > This statement doesn't make sense. Can you post the output you're seeing along with the mount options in play? > > And for reference, I notice that journaling decisions need to be made > *prior* to creating the filesystem. > Journaling decisions can be made basically at anytime the FS isn't mounted or mounted ro using tunefs(1). -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 15:16:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A892AE20 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67A5B26B7 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 015FA2519E; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:16:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7BFGr36003901; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:16:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:16:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , David Benfell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:16:58 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > Try fsck'ing a nearly full TB FS on a production box that has had a dirty > unmount and you will begin to appreciate the adventure a bit more. I prefer appreciating my precious data. :-) No, honestly: On production systems, this might be an issue (which should be resolved by appropriate countermeasures, as we're probably talking about mission-critical systems), but for home systems, it surely isn't that bad. I'm saying this from my very individual experience of having fsck work on a nearly full 1 TB disk several times a week, in worst cases, few times a day. And I don't even care that it takes more than 10 minutes, as it makes sure my data is safe. > > And if I don't have > > soft updates by default, then why are they being reported by fsck? > > > > This statement doesn't make sense. Can you post the output you're seeing > along with the mount options in play? Having _no_ soft updates is probably only true for / when the traditional partitioned layout has been chosen in the installer (that is, for sysinstall; I don't know bsdinstall's defaults from my memory). All other partitions are usually initialized with soft updates enabled. Here's an example (restricted to disks): % mount /dev/ad4s1a on / (ufs, local) /dev/ad4s1d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s1g on /opt (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad6 on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates) As you can see, only / doesn't have soft updates enabled. This is the choice I made in sysinstall (FreeBSD 8 here) when the disk was new. > > And for reference, I notice that journaling decisions need to be made > > *prior* to creating the filesystem. > > > > Journaling decisions can be made basically at anytime the FS isn't mounted > or mounted ro using tunefs(1). The safest way to change those settings is to enter single user mode and use tunefs on the unmounted partitions. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 15:35:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79F9B621 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5331E28F7 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEE6598D55B; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B4D1598D4B4; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:35:35 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:35:37 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:16:53PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > Try fsck'ing a nearly full TB FS on a production box that has had a dir= ty > > unmount and you will begin to appreciate the adventure a bit more. >=20 > I prefer appreciating my precious data. :-) >=20 On my system, it's a 2TB disk. > > > And if I don't have > > > soft updates by default, then why are they being reported by fsck? > >=20 > > This statement doesn't make sense. Can you post the output you're seei= ng > > along with the mount options in play? Ummm, how could I post this output? In single user, read-only mode, I don't think it got logged anywhere. I didn't take a picture. But I saw lots of messages referring to "unexpected SU+J inconsistencies." I remember the abbreviation sequence because I didn't know what it stood for (and still don't understand 'soft updates'). >=20 > Having _no_ soft updates is probably only true for / when the > traditional partitioned layout has been chosen in the installer > (that is, for sysinstall; I don't know bsdinstall's defaults > from my memory). All other partitions are usually initialized > with soft updates enabled. Okay, this part I'm not remembering. It was FreeBSD 10/stable I was installing (I made a disk with my notebook). I don't know if it was sysinstall or bsdinstall. >=20 > Here's an example (restricted to disks): >=20 > % mount > /dev/ad4s1a on / (ufs, local) > /dev/ad4s1d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s1g on /opt (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad6 on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates) >=20 Mine: home# mount /dev/ada0p3 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) I had understood you to say that neither journaling nor soft-updates were the default for the / partition. I'm not remembering if they were presented as options in the install or if I selected those options. (This isn't stuff I ordinarily think much about.) > As you can see, only / doesn't have soft updates enabled. This > is the choice I made in sysinstall (FreeBSD 8 here) when the > disk was new. If the the installation program presents the options, there's a possibility I ticked the selection. I don't remember. > > > And for reference, I notice that journaling decisions need to be made > > > *prior* to creating the filesystem. > >=20 > > Journaling decisions can be made basically at anytime the FS isn't moun= ted > > or mounted ro using tunefs(1). Ah. Okay. I was only looking at the gjournal man page. > The safest way to change those settings is to enter single user > mode and use tunefs on the unmounted partitions. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6OLHAAoJEBV64x4SNmArL28P/1+LY1irfPm74aZVGVygvWsD QbUCdf31R6YVGZWa1Nib3l8P5QAdWFGd9R4YkSe0m2CVL+N5UfYmqkVtX1yMYnAA NmZLavOfJyXbsL+yG3i1jSa1mJ3pXTIUD3VCqY50vfrm98dfHqG4Alq4sWFtwxO6 dXOyIkJ19cwa4F9qRljXdxXstAmohMQXxOpdY8xsHuv8yLfSLa6rFrtXp7Qt4beN BiJYUM6ZSBeifAjK9DoCc033rjs0XN99Vp13cYscKTyMDyrWLAbJst4EXJfPFJza nZsO5IpETlqRUf1s2WcYcrZEc8f6xhMum3NukGiH9oDnlFOGLMHK2++0KjKAdE2V fHOI9MpuwoYqjgUxDnq4Vy5QPZ4NiWrxf6jfHFUDXgYwgA+q3076TURcyqP233/3 PtXvZC7lz8EZFWcpMC+5BPMmfOwUotZM5A/7y/Xhd9d3jkP6/b0HvtgelXQlU9Vc hMb7rzArRdwo3F8qvlYTvwlNEEbMST903nVrjS/mgd2j2uxbHkSihDU2CBZ/a98X ZOaUZQj12vR/56JgMr41UWdwx7XW+qUudeGh/9fcVpvl1tF8OKS9SZf79qLJVx02 +h6GRd4NgFpLdlU8CaRf+WnJFbdX5rHtI36hGatpMTk1/Qxl/1Y4V7PjdIX8CZZG S8i0Xs6Rh+zt+LlRXPBU =T5mN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 16:26:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2DBB8EE for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (smtprelay-h31.telenor.se [213.150.131.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DE0F2085 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6D5C121 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:03:46 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak4IAMjo6FNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABagw0BUVeyH5pbD4hiFwUBAQEBODaEMRMcXzQFGQwKDh+IRgEInVOkYYl/hWqDGYEdAQSHRo14hnABgVeXAjsv X-IPAS-Result: Ak4IAMjo6FNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABagw0BUVeyH5pbD4hiFwUBAQEBODaEMRMcXzQFGQwKDh+IRgEInVOkYYl/hWqDGYEdAQSHRo14hnABgVeXAjsv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,842,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="56117039" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2014 18:03:46 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7BG3eLj002000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:03:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from hasse@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7BG3ewM001999 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:03:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:03:40 +0200 From: Hasse Hansson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems with pkg install kde Message-ID: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:26:13 -0000 root@ymer:/home/hasse # uname -a FreeBSD ymer.thorshammare.org 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #2 r269515: Mon Aug 4 18:01:47 CEST 2014 root@ymer.thorshammare.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/YMER i386 root@ymer:/home/hasse # cat /etc/make.conf CC=clang CXX=clang++ CPP=clang-cpp NO_WERROR= WERROR= KERNCONF=YMER WITH_PKGNG=yes NO_PROFILE=true WITH_NEW_XORG=yes WITH_GALLIUM=yes Hello. This is what happening when I try to install kde via pkg, following this guide : http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde I'm using portmaster to keep my ports updated the old fashion way. Had to build xorg and nvidia-driver the usual way "make install clean" from the portstree. virtuoso worked with pkg install root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg install kde Updating repository catalogue FreeBSD repository is up-to-date FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date All repositories are up-to-date Updating database digests format: 100% Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, file pkg_solve.c, line 508. Child process pid=1759 terminated abnormally: Abort trap Prior to the above, I've tried to run : root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg clean -a Nothing to do. root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg update -f Updating repository catalogue Fetching meta.txz: 100% of 944 B Fetching digests.txz: 100% of 1 MB Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% of 5 MB Adding new entries: 100% Incremental update completed, 23396 packages processed: 0 packages updated, 0 removed and 23396 added. Fetching meta.txz: 100% of 944 B Fetching digests.txz: 100% of 37 KB Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% of 182 KB Adding new entries: 100% Incremental update completed, 758 packages processed: 0 packages updated, 0 removed and 758 added. /All the Best / Hasse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 16:39:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5346FF67 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE9DF219C for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED7B43CC62; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:39:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7BGdCdi004328; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:39:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:39:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:39:22 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:35:35 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:16:53PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > Try fsck'ing a nearly full TB FS on a production box that has had a dirty > > > unmount and you will begin to appreciate the adventure a bit more. > > > > I prefer appreciating my precious data. :-) > > > On my system, it's a 2TB disk. That will probably take up to 30 minutes for a full fsck run. As if this would matter in comparison to the importance of your data... :-) > > > > And if I don't have > > > > soft updates by default, then why are they being reported by fsck? > > > > > > This statement doesn't make sense. Can you post the output you're seeing > > > along with the mount options in play? > > Ummm, how could I post this output? In single user, read-only mode, I > don't think it got logged anywhere. I didn't take a picture. But I saw > lots of messages referring to "unexpected SU+J inconsistencies." I > remember the abbreviation sequence because I didn't know what it stood > for (and still don't understand 'soft updates'). After being done in single user mode, type "exit" to continue booting to multi user mode. Then press Ctrl+Alt+PF2 and login with your user name and password - in text mode. Use the editor of choice to create a capture file, for example % ee /tmp/fsck.txt Then press Alt+F1 to see the virtual console where the output of the booting process has been written to. Press Scroll Lock, then use the arrow keys to scroll up to where fsck wrote its messages. Select the first 25 lines with the left mouse button, switch over to Alt+PF2 (editor) and paste the text with the middle mouse button. Then return to Alt+PF1, scroll down, and capture the next portion of the text, back to Alt+PF2, paste - until you have reached the "exit" command. Now save the file and send the text to the mailing list. Yes, I know, this looks complicated, but it's not that you're doing this 50 times every day, so it should work. > > Having _no_ soft updates is probably only true for / when the > > traditional partitioned layout has been chosen in the installer > > (that is, for sysinstall; I don't know bsdinstall's defaults > > from my memory). All other partitions are usually initialized > > with soft updates enabled. > > Okay, this part I'm not remembering. It was FreeBSD 10/stable I was > installing (I made a disk with my notebook). I don't know if it was > sysinstall or bsdinstall. It was bsdinstall. Only older releases use sysinstall. > Mine: > > home# mount > /dev/ada0p3 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) So you have a single partition approach, with soft updates, and journaling enabled. Mystery solved. :-) > I had understood you to say that neither journaling nor soft-updates > were the default for the / partition. This probably only applies to the "old fashioned" partitioned approach, where you have different partitions for "functionally different" purposes, like /, /tmp, /var, /usr, /home, /opt, /scratch and whatnot. This is mostly found on MBR-styled systems, but also possible when you use the GPT approach. > I'm not remembering if they were > presented as options in the install or if I selected those options. > (This isn't stuff I ordinarily think much about.) Probably you chose the "use the whole disk" setting. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[94.194.220.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q2sm2888605wjo.13.2014.08.11.09.50.20 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:50:19 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140811175019.7109d5d2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:50:23 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:16:53 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > Try fsck'ing a nearly full TB FS on a production box that has had a > > dirty unmount and you will begin to appreciate the adventure a bit > > more. > > I prefer appreciating my precious data. :-) > > No, honestly: On production systems, this might be an issue > (which should be resolved by appropriate countermeasures, as > we're probably talking about mission-critical systems), but > for home systems, it surely isn't that bad. I'm saying this > from my very individual experience of having fsck work on > a nearly full 1 TB disk several times a week, in worst cases, > few times a day. And I don't even care that it takes more > than 10 minutes, as it makes sure my data is safe. It depends on your hardware, it used to take several hours on my last PC. Admittedly it was testing sequentially with a full fsck (run from a script that mounts my geli partitions) and it was cpu limited in geli. I later switched to gjournal but that was very slow because it doubles the cpu cycles in geli on writes. So I tried SU+J, but that seemed to be more unreliable than anything, so I turned-off the "journalling" and went back to foreground fsck. Even with faster hardware that was a pain, it was over half an hour for my 3TB, and to speed things up I usually did the 2TB drives in separate terminals. I'm now back on geli+gjournal, the speed isn't so much of a problem with AES support in the CPU. I wouldn't go back. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 16:55:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DFDA4BA for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0E26246A for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2F023CE24; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:55:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7BGtD2a004388; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:55:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:55:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: RW Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140811185513.8977b5a9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140811175019.7109d5d2@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811175019.7109d5d2@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:55:16 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:50:19 +0100, RW wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:16:53 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > Try fsck'ing a nearly full TB FS on a production box that has had a > > > dirty unmount and you will begin to appreciate the adventure a bit > > > more. > > > > I prefer appreciating my precious data. :-) > > > > No, honestly: On production systems, this might be an issue > > (which should be resolved by appropriate countermeasures, as > > we're probably talking about mission-critical systems), but > > for home systems, it surely isn't that bad. I'm saying this > > from my very individual experience of having fsck work on > > a nearly full 1 TB disk several times a week, in worst cases, > > few times a day. And I don't even care that it takes more > > than 10 minutes, as it makes sure my data is safe. > > It depends on your hardware, it used to take several hours on my last > PC. Admittedly it was testing sequentially with a full fsck (run from a > script that mounts my geli partitions) and it was cpu limited in > geli. With parallel processing enabled in the CPU (multicore and HT), things can go faster. Having SATA also helps. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[86.176.56.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fs3sm46248506wic.20.2014.08.11.10.42.11 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E90072.5090004@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:42:10 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with pkg install kde References: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> In-Reply-To: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:42:15 -0000 On 11/08/2014 17:03, Hasse Hansson wrote: > root@ymer:/home/hasse # uname -a > FreeBSD ymer.thorshammare.org 10.0-STABLE FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE #2 r269515: Mon Aug 4 18:01:47 CEST 2014 root@ymer.thorshammare.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/YMER i386 > > root@ymer:/home/hasse # cat /etc/make.conf > CC=clang > CXX=clang++ > CPP=clang-cpp > > NO_WERROR= > WERROR= > > KERNCONF=YMER > WITH_PKGNG=yes > > NO_PROFILE=true > > WITH_NEW_XORG=yes > WITH_GALLIUM=yes > > Hello. > This is what happening when I try to install kde via pkg, following this guide : > http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde > > I'm using portmaster to keep my ports updated the old fashion way. > Had to build xorg and nvidia-driver the usual way "make install clean" from the portstree. > virtuoso worked with pkg install > > root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg install kde > Updating repository catalogue > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > Updating database digests format: 100% > Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, file pkg_solve.c, line 508. > Child process pid=1759 terminated abnormally: Abort trap > > Prior to the above, I've tried to run : > > root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg clean -a > Nothing to do. > root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg update -f > Updating repository catalogue > Fetching meta.txz: 100% of 944 B > Fetching digests.txz: 100% of 1 MB > Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% of 5 MB > > Adding new entries: 100% > Incremental update completed, 23396 packages processed: > 0 packages updated, 0 removed and 23396 added. > Fetching meta.txz: 100% of 944 B > Fetching digests.txz: 100% of 37 KB > Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% of 182 KB > > Adding new entries: 100% > Incremental update completed, 758 packages processed: > 0 packages updated, 0 removed and 758 added. > > /All the Best > / Hasse. This is exactly what has happened to me. I've had to remove all my packages, rebuild new xorg and revert back to fvwm2 for now. I can't get pkg to work without displaying that message or something similar. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 18:51:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 579A9CE6 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22d.google.com (mail-pd0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28757241C for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f173.google.com with SMTP id w10so11165022pde.4 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:51:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fCE2419k46w7Iegalc4vxlUvP9K+BglYhK2xl1LETnQ=; b=joiyHs2QTBN8Os3+MaFCBB0upy6M+DkxcklkzSdCebYBD/imV2eLZd6QrMqIqeXxQg WWd6hJ1XEnpK9ZR+5/Jd8H5Qgw+fFN1TVP1p3KQpWGsQlBX+h0RlT6346Lyn3qzi57PT 7FHaQztWUf0G3s93woyd3ILgDVwDO6H0893HK7gymqwFnTH+f07FBAbLo97D5eYVVcJ9 05Q3PEE/5GsOiXF6+K7WY/5/XfoVFTeZ9j81kWTSlPsYYKUMABinMLRNmbs7V/vohH5X kLf9S27b3cWJ+dBhQw4XwE12zqPo51GzCUdCseebveS4J8d4mL5XAHriSOOJKmK4sIAQ 8tGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.196.65 with SMTP id ik1mr2598702pac.154.1407783076660; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.118.132 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:51:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:51:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file From: Adam Vande More To: David Benfell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:51:17 -0000 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:35 AM, David Benfell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:16:53PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:52:00 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > Try fsck'ing a nearly full TB FS on a production box that has had a > dirty > > > unmount and you will begin to appreciate the adventure a bit more. > > > > I prefer appreciating my precious data. :-) > > > On my system, it's a 2TB disk. > It isn't just the size, it's the percentage of it used. > > > > And if I don't have > > > > soft updates by default, then why are they being reported by fsck? > > > > > > This statement doesn't make sense. Can you post the output you're > seeing > > > along with the mount options in play? > > Ummm, how could I post this output? In single user, read-only mode, I > don't think it got logged anywhere. I didn't take a picture. But I saw > lots of messages referring to "unexpected SU+J inconsistencies." I > remember the abbreviation sequence because I didn't know what it stood > for (and still don't understand 'soft updates'). > Well there are 1000 different ways but script(1) and mdconfig(1) might be the easiest. > > > > Having _no_ soft updates is probably only true for / when the > > traditional partitioned layout has been chosen in the installer > > (that is, for sysinstall; I don't know bsdinstall's defaults > > from my memory). All other partitions are usually initialized > > with soft updates enabled. > > Okay, this part I'm not remembering. It was FreeBSD 10/stable I was > installing (I made a disk with my notebook). I don't know if it was > sysinstall or bsdinstall. > 10/stable would mandate bsdinstall. > > > > Here's an example (restricted to disks): > > > > % mount > > /dev/ad4s1a on / (ufs, local) > > /dev/ad4s1d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > /dev/ad4s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > /dev/ad4s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > /dev/ad4s1g on /opt (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > /dev/ad6 on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > > Mine: > > home# mount > /dev/ada0p3 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) > linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) > > I had understood you to say that neither journaling nor soft-updates > were the default for the / partition. I'm not remembering if they were > presented as options in the install or if I selected those options. > (This isn't stuff I ordinarily think much about.) > SU+J is the default for modern FreeBSD install. > > > As you can see, only / doesn't have soft updates enabled. This > > is the choice I made in sysinstall (FreeBSD 8 here) when the > > disk was new. > > If the the installation program presents the options, there's a > possibility I ticked the selection. I don't remember. > It does present an option dialog, but requires user to click into it. Otherwise SU+J will be created. > > > > And for reference, I notice that journaling decisions need to be made > > > > *prior* to creating the filesystem. > > > > > > Journaling decisions can be made basically at anytime the FS isn't > mounted > > > or mounted ro using tunefs(1). > > Ah. Okay. I was only looking at the gjournal man page. > gjournal has nothing to do with SU+J. > > > The safest way to change those settings is to enter single user > > mode and use tunefs on the unmounted partitions. > > -- > David Benfell > See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the > attachment. > -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 20:03:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F1406AB for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.apsz.com.pl (mail.apsz.com.pl [95.48.209.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ACDF2BDA for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chroot.pl (89-67-169-110.dynamic.chello.pl [89.67.169.110]) by mail.apsz.com.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB30745656 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:57:07 +0200 From: Lukasz User-Agent: WebMail MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: zpool from 32bit os to 64bit os Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.apsz.com.pl X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mail.apsz.com.pl X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:03:13 -0000 Hello! I'm looking for a way to connect (convert) disks with zpool created in FreeBSD 32 bit to FBSD 64bit. Is it possible at all? Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 21:21:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7192FDB for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFDE26A6 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4001B33C59; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id ECF9139814; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Hasse Hansson Subject: Re: problems with pkg install kde References: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:15:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> (Hasse Hansson's message of "Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:03:40 +0200") Message-ID: <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Jamie Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:21:33 -0000 Hasse Hansson writes: > root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg install kde > Updating repository catalogue > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > Updating database digests format: 100% > Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, file pkg_solve.c, line 508. > Child process pid=1759 terminated abnormally: Abort trap Known bug. pkg-devel has the fix, which will come to the non-devel port in the upcoming release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 21:49:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF05F475 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (smtprelay-h22.telenor.se [195.54.99.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73845291C for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B86C5A4 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:48:58 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8KAOM56VNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABagw2IWM0rAYERFwUBAQEBODaEBAEFJxMcIxALGAklDwUZDAotiEYBw04Xj0wHFoMZgR0BBIdGlGgBmFk7Lw X-IPAS-Result: An8KAOM56VNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABagw2IWM0rAYERFwUBAQEBODaEBAEFJxMcIxALGAklDwUZDAotiEYBw04Xj0wHFoMZgR0BBIdGlGgBmFk7Lw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,844,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="56206301" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2014 23:48:57 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7BLmq5k087536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:48:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from hasse@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7BLmqpW087532; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:48:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:48:52 +0200 From: Hasse Hansson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with pkg install kde Message-ID: <20140811214852.GA2492@ymer.thorshammare.org> References: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Jamie Griffin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:49:33 -0000 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:15:15PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Hasse Hansson writes: > > > root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg install kde > > Updating repository catalogue > > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > > FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date > > All repositories are up-to-date > > Updating database digests format: 100% > > Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, file pkg_solve.c, line 508. > > Child process pid=1759 terminated abnormally: Abort trap > > Known bug. pkg-devel has the fix, which will come to the non-devel port > in the upcoming release. ok. Thanks /Hasse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 23:14:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B624175 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8569227F for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hXCfk6dgsz4P for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:14:05 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: zpool from 32bit os to 64bit os Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> References: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:14:14 -0000 --As of August 11, 2014 9:57:07 PM +0200, Lukasz is alleged to have said: > I'm looking for a way to connect (convert) disks with zpool created in > FreeBSD 32 bit to FBSD 64bit. Is it possible at all? --As for the rest, it is mine. As far as I know, it should be `zpool export` from the 32-bit machine, and then `zpool import` on the 64bit machine. No special steps needed. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 02:27:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 970F5C97 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76EF825A1 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8AD598CDE2; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CFE7C598CDC8; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:27:09 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140812022709.GA84770@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:27:12 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:39:12PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > > I'm not remembering if they were > > presented as options in the install or if I selected those options. > > (This isn't stuff I ordinarily think much about.) >=20 > Probably you chose the "use the whole disk" setting. >=20 This part I'm sure of. Yes, I chose the "use the whole disk" setting. It's a server meant to be continuously accessible, so a multiple boot choice would be ... weird. ;-) And it had been too long since I'd last run FreeBSD as a server to be sure of how I would allocate partitions anyway. (In my experience, the sizes people tell you are never right *for* *you* and I'm not sure it's really an advantage to partition up a disk this way, anyway.) Having gone through the fsck -fy already, I don't think I can recover /tmp/fsck.txt--I just looked, and I had just enabled /tmp cleanup, so, no, it isn't still there. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6Xt9AAoJEBV64x4SNmAreoAP/iF4flTO2Ic5+rwxDbbddXfr oLZWQo9miLzPOi0dXz36wfJ0jjlI1sgBxAsC3FZyoy10uELe5ecLFbWQ41GuFEik QfMjD4ufKgGvfLylwE3nJROG3iraNZQV1saNAJmAHVMx9w2fe/JyhIm524MLW0tN XnuKGgzf26NaZR10YMF5beO1vI2lMzDfwjkhBHOsbK/xQeNzzPB+B9MEIIjIzLLn YC1sJzy9EYWSAq1xVOJtHxnkqMES+zJ77GDVVRwLQy0ela10UKQT1Xtaqmot+I2f kKWXwO2G/7W3hAI+DPRwwp/+7oKbxUJlpuw3NM90esmUoGCraR8L4KqYPXRTrWSd YAdO3g1zvCZ3gsLiqFKCdtrTUauk5HxbUwew+BqACjmx2pWiK/V40q1L7GsyjZyX IFLAi30jQfvi9UT5FgpjwAxXllup1XcYizdLlgCKxGXeQZqVaPC2rj/rMW4BUX8Z hn8jHq/l8jCbN5lY2G+M7OjfdV7DaeFxKmiqFkhvOBHtu38qfwrdjYMfYr+kpqZ4 N2IHn6ejU7JcwTYP7T82wLn1EM11RJly1etTLRFGVP+OrrWKGBQ3lfG429gPtA46 V6iNDUfeKHdc6XOq11m9AKNi/cqUr7A62G0Mnja+v5VPlvBOlzfmAcD0YWOlcbxb gO6GcSSa1R0byclDTzNO =KkqA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 02:32:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF8EFD62 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD5CD2641 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE073598D4B4; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D3543598CDC8; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:32:29 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:32:31 -0000 --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:39:12PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > After being done in single user mode, type "exit" to > continue booting to multi user mode. Then press Ctrl+Alt+PF2 > and login with your user name and password - in text mode. > Use the editor of choice to create a capture file, for > example >=20 > % ee /tmp/fsck.txt >=20 > Then press Alt+F1 to see the virtual console where the > output of the booting process has been written to. Press > Scroll Lock, then use the arrow keys to scroll up to where > fsck wrote its messages. Select the first 25 lines with > the left mouse button, switch over to Alt+PF2 (editor) > and paste the text with the middle mouse button. Then > return to Alt+PF1, scroll down, and capture the next > portion of the text, back to Alt+PF2, paste - until you > have reached the "exit" command. Now save the file and > send the text to the mailing list. Oh, so scroll lock is the secret to making this work? I had no idea. Wouldn't the copy and paste operation require moused? I have an issue here because I haven't figured out how to get moused to recognize my USB mouse (which is strange: it does this just fine on my notebook). --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6Xy9AAoJEBV64x4SNmArDIcP/048tbXiHkrZuMAi8jXa8H4S ohZPFuP+oSn88J+f6IknrAej4Rm4ZVrO4QVdlQ+LpcmjiMBt3MeVvu2aHIJ7bvkx zXmjFwCXNRn2v4UzX9PuTF4ErLATYITbj5RiY77rcCIc9DuSxJjJt4CZoOxju41N Ihf89d/Sp1nH5bxX8R7X37W8kc7+UZonX4CLbAvSFIdxwy8mxArxvqB7XWKeQBOj GTQqPVPVn66WGAmvvrVr3UTsL9tFKnyPKPxOY6VCZfTxmEjGCreBqQOtD2d94czC QUmjUG/QR7oiu7BMJcdBmDzrgV7fZ9z1b2v6niRB8OHMRF/3uvvVZN7rMR7ufw2J tmodIjwfcRRfz0+mHVq9OYJbgePSwn3BZrwNCZo5HF6Z1OqBbVFuL82NKGVWDn5Z AhKaN6uh+QxnGKbAjNc2AlU/ULHeF7fhJ8gyau8EV447deBVrbT4U88t3KFa8+mq czTqHH3lh/pIWWFhiJJA3cgUQqeOS297myNlJ4xre43VHnU7jXLyYZiKMqO+t2GO 5dESX0AuuAcMxH3y1yYqgSX7uMEp+0QmDfpvYX7m93UEO0aNDoLYAMibsXdInlqr xXm9373Fy6pRAiFJG+PfA7N3CmQTVURmSmCejabq795FbIjJQF9DIn6asV5UwdBL HjYJ6wBvGVl1wwDADzfc =Gw8S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 04:33:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A7E41C2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us.royaserver.com (unknown [162.223.89.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9431E2223 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:33:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pahlevanzadeh.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID; bh=JEZrCkWdCrbsTvAOydtvVjR2T4ilDBue1bAp9o39h7U=; b=kXbYR+epKRLL2fkfSaEgch2ofm6vZrpSI4tZ2BjvIrCrbLc6Fc32IxUCVj+oA2HFedkGNmvciEWq4jGJjpNXhK4Z3LI9ssPyJ4JA7bLXxKXIAi6v2HSBtS+B0ZZTF74T5goJmo20Lr1jiAvaM9FH3FnCF0URv0n9s2EDRx6F5ks=; Received: from [91.98.170.60] (port=56624 helo=debian) by us.royaserver.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XH3lw-001YHA-Vr; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:03:21 +0430 Message-ID: <1407817979.14647.6.camel@debian> Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 From: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh To: Polytropon Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:02:59 +0430 In-Reply-To: <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.2-1+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - us.royaserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pahlevanzadeh.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: us.royaserver.com: authenticated_id: mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:33:30 -0000 On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 09:59 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:58:02 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > > my instruction: > > ################################### > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ > > mkdir /root/kernels > > cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYK > > ln -s /root/kernels/MYK > > ee /root/kernels/MYK #### I changed ident from GENERIC TO MYK > > ee /root/kernels/MYK ## add the following options for ipfw firewall(at > > end of file): > > //////////////////////////////// > > options IPFIREWALL > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT > > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > > options IPDIVERT > > ///////////////////////////// > > make LINT > > cd /usr/src/ > > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > init 6 > > ########################################## > > Even though this seems to work, it's not how you are supposed to > install a kernel today. Have a look at /usr/src/Makefile's comment > header: > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). > # 2. `make buildworld' > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > # 7. `make installworld' > # 8. `make delete-old' > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). > # 10. `reboot' > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) > > This procedure is a little bit different. > > Additionally, you can store your own kernel config in /sys/i386/conf > (but make a local copy, for example in /root; symlinking is also okay). > > > > > after boot, `uname -i` returns GENERIC , > > My arch is i386: `uname -p` returns i386 , > > Where's my problem? > > It _may_ be a problem with the procedure you're using, even though > you said to have changed the "ident" statement in the kernel > configuration file. 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Get in touch Facebook Twitter g+ DOWNLOAD FREE FOODPANDA APP Google Play App Store To unsubscribe, send an email to: unsubscribe-118440@icubemails5.em.marketinghq.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 05:28:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 990A5927 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3052426E1 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A32993CC52; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:28:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7C5SWlk001922; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:28:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:28:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140812072832.da0166dc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140812022709.GA84770@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812022709.GA84770@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:28:36 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:27:09 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:39:12PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > I'm not remembering if they were > > > presented as options in the install or if I selected those options. > > > (This isn't stuff I ordinarily think much about.) > > > > Probably you chose the "use the whole disk" setting. > > > This part I'm sure of. Yes, I chose the "use the whole disk" setting. > It's a server meant to be continuously accessible, so a multiple boot > choice would be ... weird. ;-) In that case, putting everything on one / partition also looks a little bit strange, but I assume the disk is more than sufficiently big enough. :-) Sidenote: Many server admins seem to prefer creating different partitions just for the case some program runs amok. What if /home gets filled? Or /tmp? Or /var? In this case, the _whole_ system would be affected... > And it had been too long since I'd last run FreeBSD as a server to be > sure of how I would allocate partitions anyway. (In my experience, the > sizes people tell you are never right *for* *you* and I'm not sure > it's really an advantage to partition up a disk this way, anyway.) There actually are advantages, but the case is: You hope that you never need them. Still size "calculation" is probably nothing more than a WAG, and if everything runs fine during the life span of the server, you'll be happy. It's actually hard to say how big partitions should be when you don't know what services you will run and _how_ they will run (amount of users, of transactions, of data- bases, of logfiles and so on). Even with a big disk, you can say you made all partitions "big enough" and still hit a limit in three years. > Having gone through the fsck -fy already, I don't think I can recover > /tmp/fsck.txt--I just looked, and I had just enabled /tmp cleanup, so, > no, it isn't still there. The text is kept in the console buffer until reboot. Of course saving something to /tmp when you have enabled a cleanup for /tmp isn't optimum. In this case, choices like /root/fsck.txt or even /fsck.txt (for temporary storage) would have been okay. For the next time: You can use mdconfig to temporarily allocate a RAM disk, then use script to record the whole console session (including fsck output), afterwards run "mount -a" and copy the log fron the RAM disk to a more permanent place. Just in case. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 05:31:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15F0BBD8 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6FAA2789 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CBCE3CC52; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:31:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7C5Vfg3001928; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:31:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:31:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:31:44 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:32:29 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:39:12PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > After being done in single user mode, type "exit" to > > continue booting to multi user mode. Then press Ctrl+Alt+PF2 > > and login with your user name and password - in text mode. > > Use the editor of choice to create a capture file, for > > example > > > > % ee /tmp/fsck.txt > > > > Then press Alt+F1 to see the virtual console where the > > output of the booting process has been written to. Press > > Scroll Lock, then use the arrow keys to scroll up to where > > fsck wrote its messages. Select the first 25 lines with > > the left mouse button, switch over to Alt+PF2 (editor) > > and paste the text with the middle mouse button. Then > > return to Alt+PF1, scroll down, and capture the next > > portion of the text, back to Alt+PF2, paste - until you > > have reached the "exit" command. Now save the file and > > send the text to the mailing list. > > Oh, so scroll lock is the secret to making this work? I had no idea. No, Scroll Lock is a fully normal key that does what is printed on the keycap. Why so surprised? ;-) > Wouldn't the copy and paste operation require moused? I have an issue > here because I haven't figured out how to get moused to recognize my > USB mouse (which is strange: it does this just fine on my notebook). Yes, moused would need to be enabled, so the console can provide mouse support. It's quite handy for transfering text from one virtual terminal to another. By the way, left-doubleclick selects words, left-tripleclick selects the whole line, and left-click selects start + right-click selects end of a region. It works with _any_ program. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 05:36:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8DB369 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BD8027C5 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 740423CC52; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:36:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7C5apiX002024; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:36:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:36:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 Message-Id: <20140812073651.e38cdd72.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1407817979.14647.6.camel@debian> References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <1407817979.14647.6.camel@debian> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:36:53 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:02:59 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > Thank you so much, > > Can you explain more about make buildworld This step is only needed if your kernel version doesn't match your installed world version (for example after a source tree update). As explained in the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile, this particular step has to be performed in single-user mode. If the source matches the version of the installed world, you can build your own kernels and install them without installing the world. In this case, only the following steps (from Makefile) apply: # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). The kernel can be installed while in multi-user mode. For more details: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 06:52:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D723595B for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x230.google.com (mail-yk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9ADF02FEC for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 19so6759222ykq.35 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:52:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZR04MXdFN2d1qzCThCu6hzdG0xK2OBGaC7yIRnxTYWM=; b=me3XiD+3Jalsr/wQ62dOhWvMAwJtZ8HaRJQSP+TamU7Oq+2s1wx1PFT//pNV8crbhH B/1Rr1qMBGdWs2opGDXtp7Y5cLWqeCRZ3h0yVnKmScNcsg7kAcZlH2Pgrhd7ipfHzq18 kGFdY7R3gLjCk9EB7ppusGzy5sSpwiooc1/cHbN6zVat0bnjL4JWg6m8LhfXWGlXp8rY o1/u6kHA8HEd4rZC/SZ/rXtxZCEz7dQ2E9tqazxwy4N6gY0RAkcxvnV1r7xq4db0LDtP P8nBxlFUg1YtxGs2bgBdJjuVS6egJT/J991T4z+KyMuEWVE39oZMZdhl35BCriz3xsBb oX3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.227.227 with SMTP id d93mr53250824yhq.100.1407826354504; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.132.80 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 23:52:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:52:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: zpool from 32bit os to 64bit os From: krad To: Daniel Staal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:52:35 -0000 totally agreed, you can even go between architectures. eg i have imported a pool from a sun sparc system into an intel pc On 12 August 2014 00:14, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of August 11, 2014 9:57:07 PM +0200, Lukasz is alleged to have said: > > I'm looking for a way to connect (convert) disks with zpool created in >> FreeBSD 32 bit to FBSD 64bit. Is it possible at all? >> > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > As far as I know, it should be `zpool export` from the 32-bit machine, and > then `zpool import` on the 64bit machine. No special steps needed. > > Daniel T. Staal > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. 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Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.apsz.com.pl (mail.apsz.com.pl [95.48.209.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C99FA226A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chroot.pl (89-67-169-110.dynamic.chello.pl [89.67.169.110]) by mail.apsz.com.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E89334564E for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:22:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53E9C0D0.1080206@chroot.pl> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:22:56 +0200 From: Lukasz User-Agent: WebMail MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: zpool from 32bit os to 64bit os References: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.apsz.com.pl X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mail.apsz.com.pl X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:23:03 -0000 Thank you for answers. I'll try with export/import... I hope my data will be safe during this operation. :) On 08/12/2014 08:52 AM, krad wrote: > totally agreed, you can even go between architectures. eg i have imported a > pool from a sun sparc system into an intel pc > > > On 12 August 2014 00:14, Daniel Staal wrote: > >> --As of August 11, 2014 9:57:07 PM +0200, Lukasz is alleged to have said: >> >> I'm looking for a way to connect (convert) disks with zpool created in >>> FreeBSD 32 bit to FBSD 64bit. Is it possible at all? >>> >> >> --As for the rest, it is mine. >> >> As far as I know, it should be `zpool export` from the 32-bit machine, and >> then `zpool import` on the 64bit machine. No special steps needed. >> >> Daniel T. Staal >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you >> are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use >> the contents for non-commercial purposes. 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[86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fb12sm7357319wjc.43.2014.08.12.00.51.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 00:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E9C789.9000509@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:51:37 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with pkg install kde References: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:51:42 -0000 On 11/08/2014 22:15, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Hasse Hansson writes: > >> root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg install kde >> Updating repository catalogue >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date >> FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date >> All repositories are up-to-date >> Updating database digests format: 100% >> Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, file pkg_solve.c, line 508. >> Child process pid=1759 terminated abnormally: Abort trap > Known bug. pkg-devel has the fix, which will come to the non-devel port > in the upcoming release. I actually tried pkg-devel thinking it would allow me to continue installing but it too had the same error. In fact I tried a number of pkg versions. It's good to know it's a known issue and will be fixed, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 08:09:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDBE3E78 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x22b.google.com (mail-vc0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F59B275A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hq11so12814739vcb.2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:09:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=J2g7yr/OpBK/dFwIpxmBxlvFUOzDF/KgJq+DWbEMBkM=; b=L4lJ1alqAK0pAB2bZWjd3BE69d8R6hc7kVcNZ6Iu1mH7QO83fWDNZHztpjcsEZpFDP Zlq0Iu8TtfQMdFMS6CTuT05JOqS8DIiJ6L/wsC9gRMdTUPGiWpCZSRSggF++TLInSMrh zjoJQZx22E2yhuXbA4NdTVV1tHFMLem9Nf0XfS1WTQpthbVgdgUVraZoGBEBSod91GVD j5gq9qAEm2utNS9gmSOYx35m2oygqVDuCeYDpywrfssp6m8Znb+rMY5GrJ4ConTLxmS9 +L86Qc4urGjgFOCLKn9f4J821ur7Hi7B415iGDH3gz2sWFMWVj+yVFG3wCtLdVb3c0pZ hkqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.53.12.225 with SMTP id et1mr22293112vdd.5.1407830982877; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.19.137 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:09:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:09:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 From: Cristiano Deana To: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:09:44 -0000 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: Hi > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK it's KERNCONF, not KERNELCONF. -- Cris, member of G.U.F.I Italian FreeBSD User Group http://www.gufi.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 08:12:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 018A9F7D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ADE42803 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id d1so5428438wiv.7 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:12:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ByZHY7Cv3Vy0Q6bQWPH2pT5cZ/Pm5HC+NOKIuZfTDTE=; b=cxXjaziLnBfguwpU/R7/fAiyXawDsNn6HQS6WKyR6dvqrwzg2znyuomHdwu8K6GN5a qktnN7GyUlhj6JB3T5k453uHM0gJWXCPV5q4Fsk49Vgqpdgs+LePJLWYLKdF1A98HW+A qOUeFBQsAGGwLsrzyCFrrHGOh23BNqKxFFmqQn0VEeIepKaKMV37/TuXH6KhwgfFSCmH ELA9z3k8eNaAF96IV3gsDZcn/rndmDkn6NH3c6KoDI/5RkXWy26Le0hanOYOspi0nIRC RoaSORMWy90uzVsaF+5JCoXN4TqrqJXWKfE5m3HkODQEvJJ13gkey9vMegqE3emxIZ6V pyxg== X-Received: by 10.180.106.6 with SMTP id gq6mr27336668wib.5.1407831169770; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y10sm53454259wie.18.2014.08.12.01.12.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E9CC7F.60704@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:12:47 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <1407817979.14647.6.camel@debian> <20140812073651.e38cdd72.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140812073651.e38cdd72.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:12:52 -0000 On 12/08/2014 06:36, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:02:59 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: >> Thank you so much, >> >> Can you explain more about make buildworld > This step is only needed if your kernel version doesn't match > your installed world version (for example after a source tree > update). As explained in the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile, > this particular step has to be performed in single-user mode. > > If the source matches the version of the installed world, you > can build your own kernels and install them without installing > the world. In this case, only the following steps (from Makefile) > apply: > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). > > The kernel can be installed while in multi-user mode. > > For more details: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > > If you haven't updated your sources and at the same revision from previous buildworld, you can just compile and install a new kernel if you want to make changes, can't you? e.g. you don't have to buildworld everytime, unless you've updated the source tree? 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[86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ho7sm7703399wjb.2.2014.08.12.01.35.44 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:35:42 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: vt console driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:35:50 -0000 I'm trying out the vt console driver and i'm wondering about the font display when the system first boots up. Ideally, I'd like to have it in graphical mode from the start so I can benefit from a nice sized font; however, when I do that, by unsetting hw.vga.textmode in /boot/loader.conf, the font is fuzzy and unwieldy. the text doesn't fit the screen properly and is very big compared to what it should be. If I do have hw.vga.textmode set then of course it boots into a display with the regular console 8x16 font but when vt switching, I get a lovely display with small, neat text and lots of info on the screen. My questions is, how can I get that from the start; i.e. i'd like it to be like that on first boot and on all my console screens. Does anyone know how I do that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 08:53:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6382B7C for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 884D92C8F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0B023CD7B; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7C8r2Ix002727; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:53:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:53:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 Message-Id: <20140812105302.1c0f4afa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E9CC7F.60704@gmail.com> References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <1407817979.14647.6.camel@debian> <20140812073651.e38cdd72.freebsd@edvax.de> <53E9CC7F.60704@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:53:06 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:12:47 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > If you haven't updated your sources and at the same revision from > previous buildworld, you can just compile and install a new kernel if > you want to make changes, can't you? e.g. you don't have to buildworld > everytime, unless you've updated the source tree? Correct. As long as world and kernel are in sync, you can build and install as many kernels as you like. This is also reflected in the "uname -v" output, for example "FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #1" indicates that this is the 2nd kernel built for that particular version (#0 would have been the first). It's possible to just re-do "make kernel KERNCONF=FOO" several times after changing something in the kernel configuration. No need for buildworld here. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 09:30:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FA91BE6 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 619E8215D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B9363CD9F; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:30:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7C9UiGx003008; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:30:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:30:44 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Cristiano Deana Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 Message-Id: <20140812113044.63ebfae7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh , FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:30:47 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:09:42 +0200, Cristiano Deana wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh > wrote: > > Hi > > > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > it's KERNCONF, not KERNELCONF. Excellent finding! This setting doesn't have any effect, which means that GENERIC is being built and installed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 10:33:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7815BD6C for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us.royaserver.com (unknown [162.223.89.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D33D2887 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:33:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pahlevanzadeh.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID; bh=6mi98ZXaJm2J0TfxM45pg2C59l39MMLMzG5iG+JLYZ0=; b=J6UwucfyGAt5V2zMyQurTiIMTxOB9HxESTPbeq6CzGJ5nKMH0O6aUORRaM2l/Rmy3oaIj2DybPxWroeHDkN6xSlL1OCIPi4rp8KHzz7GhHcKQW9oFcIz4Tq+r2E3utY3iSSXlu4m/vckdC4J883xO8f+cxkgoOU11J0x2Ef4ptA=; Received: from [91.98.170.60] (port=57139 helo=debian) by us.royaserver.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XH9OI-002N4y-3r; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:03:18 +0430 Message-ID: <1407839576.14647.12.camel@debian> Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 From: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh To: Polytropon Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:02:56 +0430 In-Reply-To: <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.2-1+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - us.royaserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pahlevanzadeh.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: us.royaserver.com: authenticated_id: mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:33:21 -0000 On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 09:59 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:58:02 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > > my instruction: > > ################################### > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ > > mkdir /root/kernels > > cp GENERIC /root/kernels/MYK > > ln -s /root/kernels/MYK > > ee /root/kernels/MYK #### I changed ident from GENERIC TO MYK > > ee /root/kernels/MYK ## add the following options for ipfw firewall(at > > end of file): > > //////////////////////////////// > > options IPFIREWALL > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT > > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > > options IPDIVERT > > ///////////////////////////// > > make LINT > > cd /usr/src/ > > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > init 6 > > ########################################## > > Even though this seems to work, it's not how you are supposed to > install a kernel today. Have a look at /usr/src/Makefile's comment > header: > > # 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). > # 2. `make buildworld' > # 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). > # [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > # 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). > # 6. `mergemaster -p' > # 7. `make installworld' > # 8. `make delete-old' > # 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). > # 10. `reboot' > # 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) > > This procedure is a little bit different. > > Additionally, you can store your own kernel config in /sys/i386/conf > (but make a local copy, for example in /root; symlinking is also okay). > > > > > after boot, `uname -i` returns GENERIC , > > My arch is i386: `uname -p` returns i386 , > > Where's my problem? > > It _may_ be a problem with the procedure you're using, even though > you said to have changed the "ident" statement in the kernel > configuration file. So maybe you try the recommended procedure > first and check the results. > > > you said true but i added some command: cd /usr/src make buildworld make kernel KERNCONF=MYK shutdown now boot with single user#### mount -u / mount -a -t ufs swapon -a adjkerntz -i mergemaster -p cd /usr/src make installworld mergemaster -iF make delete-old reboot Normal boot### make delete-old-libs uname -r returns MYK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 10:58:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A6A8574 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us.royaserver.com (unknown [162.223.89.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DCD62B3D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:58:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pahlevanzadeh.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID; bh=Jla82CwbHHZ92DzoA4rm43PWCtrB1iuJ+Mq+zbpD+wI=; b=fm6wejSi50l1me57AjTtirtn/5t7k28a+BxXdmZMtdoI3UYLl6mXjgTuD3fr/Xmx4GgJKjsCKer/5Lp+qhLpRmjuTYZ+4++qLJmOjVSkp/EjwIuMenibnsSYKazoIPh3OXn1RN73+Ep9QlnFyPTF0SHL0kAx9plavrhvKqmhLxI=; Received: from [91.98.170.60] (port=57165 helo=debian) by us.royaserver.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XH9mM-002RBf-1A; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:28:10 +0430 Message-ID: <1407841063.14647.13.camel@debian> Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 From: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh To: Polytropon Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:27:43 +0430 In-Reply-To: <20140812113044.63ebfae7.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> <20140812113044.63ebfae7.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.2-1+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - us.royaserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pahlevanzadeh.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: us.royaserver.com: authenticated_id: mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org Cc: Cristiano Deana , FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:58:12 -0000 On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 11:30 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:09:42 +0200, Cristiano Deana wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh > > wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > > make installkernel KERNELCONF=MYK > > > > it's KERNCONF, not KERNELCONF. > > Excellent finding! This setting doesn't have any effect, > which means that GENERIC is being built and installed. > > > > It's type mistake. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 11:33:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F4C9D41 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB7B22090 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id wn1so7004310obc.3 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:33:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JqYXEFnLn+ZnMUOvbrFbtPF52bvfLzJkSxCgTMk+9BE=; b=LDsNKSZgEib5qBdm7JbqdpzEyalg8HvchFllihs4tTP0rbkwQtJkb/tN8nSstbk73K aC1OUpCBp/9BnbDam5Tkeh9vts4OsiWkAsVcV8VrlSZP0XYr9Gc0/2SfH7d/fgDWk9ph eTyc8Z+Ppdg2nnlBRtFrvyl1WNZkzzTjOH0KsGP/gA9kFq/2CFNZhGLWYQK7iUe9fLwY P9TAtqFPDjSscxJzqPK+Fz/1LmWyYn8mfw+NNMG1WXxBrHY0PshWYXhfJyma8XMvzIP1 BwmEqfpqOgB3OY4HBGdXUq2VOWLIxUARCqav4WzxdcCWdp+gK1eWNBm9HALKKZtfZGW1 WKvA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmVVB1qwUvvkXLdLpxEeDtisKMB5i24yqWyCGRSoobucLVAnfFN7P96qtejuifQRYRlkuQb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.57.193 with SMTP id k1mr3653424oeq.66.1407839458578; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 03:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.68.230 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 03:30:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53E75F57.5040907@a1poweruser.com> References: <53E75F57.5040907@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:30:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: correctly configuring PF with jailed environments From: Norman Khine To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:33:36 -0000 i am using nginx and here is the nginx.conf file https://gist.github.com/nkhine/f620f8bdc0fb613b7b59 i am sharing the node application static files using nullfs as: # cat etc/fstab.www /usr/jails/basejail /usr/jails/www/basejail nullfs ro 0 0 /usr/jails/app/home/app/node-blade-boiler-template/public /usr/jails/www/var/www nullfs ro 0 0 and then in my nginx.conf i have https://gist.github.com/nkhine/f620f8bdc0fb613b7b59#file-gistfile1-txt-L122 i have set /var/www as the root for static files. this works the strange thing is that if you click twice on a link it loads quickly, but if you click only one time, it just takes time for the page to load. so i think the issue is with nginx and the proxy On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Norman Khine wrote: > >> hello, i have a web application running 3 jail environments one for Nginx >> Web server, one for MongoDB/Redis and one for my Node.js application >> >> this is my current pf.conf file >> >> https://gist.github.com/nkhine/d03ea23a749c47bcc4d0 >> >> this works, as there is no access to my node app nor any of the dbs from >> public interfaces. >> >> the rules come out as >> >> # pfctl -s rules >> scrub out log on igb0 all random-id min-ttl 15 set-tos 0x1c fragment >> reassemble >> scrub in log on igb0 all min-ttl 15 fragment reassemble >> scrub in all fragment reassemble >> >> i find that on my webserver i get timeouts and the html application does >> not >> >> load up quickly! >> >> also, are there any improvements i can make to this as to ensure a more >> secure environment? >> >> any advice much appreciated >> >> > I do not see this as a jail or pf problem. > Look at commenting out any mod_* from the httpd.conf file that the html > application does not use. Check that the 3 apache jails are not using the > same service port (80). Do not use the apache default directory location > for holding your html application files. Disable the pf firewall in rc.conf > and test if this speeds up apache. > > > > > -- %>>> "".join( [ {'*':'@','^':'.'}.get(c,None) or chr(97+(ord(c)-83)%26) for c in ",adym,*)&uzq^zqf" ] ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 11:40:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CE21E5C for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC92320DB for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b8so7695542lan.5 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:40:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=LBPiIcJMi6RfPgrVJ2M/hIGspNk6m0vBAXV3h0O/KeM=; b=G0Wg3z2xaEhkaIgsbP7x/DNsRVUXeISy/CRTXflMq+zGouJf6Kks8sas+9PzNnPDkZ 4z99CnQ6OWKPhgMT63xxBLElPk4vYJItcjIVVnhbj9pE7x9+ePGcbHxcTCkt/w1kilZd WVXl63Hkn7fwCMAOieN7+EuKzxsuIk1k7A7Woc433+h7uIvP4oCq45JRD4tksXnWYnTK eRjdmfmZGzRpNPeoubxVPGch741WTx0QblDTWpM4QOsZaeBzYCRw5BxtunXtPA+bZ8Q0 8fJO4E0Tsq9BL4A1TIq+I334TRL/laLojONZWdqBYzeqmXlrtEMJDqRsnxPkjTM5CJR9 1Pxg== X-Received: by 10.152.87.229 with SMTP id bb5mr2032599lab.75.1407843631600; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:40:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.43.72 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:40:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vt console driver To: Jamie Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:40:34 -0000 > My questions is, how can I get that from the start; i.e. i'd like it to be > like that on first boot and on all my console screens. Does anyone know how > I do that? > I had it working by loading the radeon modules for my card (Barts) at loader.conf but I switched back because it took forever to boot because there was some lag when a lot of rows where added. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 11:41:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BA95F16 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AAD82177 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b17so6589173lan.25 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:41:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=kXQg1jXQrHGAFvrGF+L04RJUYEMUVwThbtd7AF6iZvQ=; b=lSAz+EpEP9Gz6+AmAlD4ijNKU5TruJwlOtFimHnmlzqWM8UT+oXgFC+1N44rJdx9rq 8jxRocLjNE3ODKth4GxW7PQ4VULnVwNyGgRhndxyPzv5gzAIJSGnQN2eUNGGoMCmBpAL XXjrCKJJPIWIirltdwKXG0HeAIwCAEp4ueh33m2AN6uNRi6Ie3uKosVay3m5nGaB8/Zh bRsd8iWUpnOdtML/C2VZVfyyfRm8Vtd9DqtCBbpOj8hTvWE3NybEaJYbqWheITl0LY45 KbHqsx4pfa8yhkLgdlZl8nFI+UdoL2u0t0DEaj95n9jD6xV5wfUW6lvOLNlit3E48qB1 CzQg== X-Received: by 10.152.229.133 with SMTP id sq5mr2436891lac.67.1407843703485; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:41:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.43.72 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:41:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:41:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vt console driver To: Jamie Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:41:46 -0000 from the wiki: Video driver loaded at boot time Radeon The Radeon driver loads one or more firmwares when initializing the card. If you want to load radeonkms from loader, you must include the firmwares too, because automatic loading won't work (the filesystem isn't mounted at the time of the card initialization). To list the firmwares required by your card, "kldload" radeonkms and look at the loaded modules. Here's an example: $ kldstat | grep radeonkmsfw 19 1 0xffffffff81fc0000 189d radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_pfp.ko 20 1 0xffffffff81fc2000 1ca6 radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_me.ko 21 1 0xffffffff81fc4000 1325 radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_rlc.ko In this case, one would need to build into/load: radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_pfp radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_me radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_rlc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 11:55:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8490C37B for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:55:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AE7822D6 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id u57so9885854wes.10 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:55:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IHO6+xpQrMJYZZuwB2QmI/uNzdBPDKt07hZON3WaXHQ=; b=E2vXOkbDcmqQLYqyQAzij3AmGTDIzU3g05JbGvJwu4Jw800dxAkMRNJFyHewG2sbp3 01jtFtdzZg6GG85LF0tsHuLn5ZYLZBfW3tHh2d3Ys2lCVOYs+pYA/C7smkfpGNnOx6mg 9JN8OzcCUnX0oHBHcb+Vf2Ig0kWywHMGg2bsoIdBTwmbkOwypqK23hnXj3qZS2lONpS/ P1y2mOTWaGmLBf8hKCKmT124aijI1p1cRnYOaeE1xInjB21R8sYFYzmY825mHxitdWn9 1AM6NdUj2pZOS/ri8YrAAIDJGe62p1zfJouMJ1IUOBJ+h3qzrEDItPxQv6sF7eW+nI+2 S+EQ== X-Received: by 10.180.24.35 with SMTP id r3mr31748575wif.71.1407844538160; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gc8sm55486719wic.3.2014.08.12.04.55.36 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:55:35 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Gamsjager Subject: Re: vt console driver References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:55:40 -0000 On 12/08/2014 12:41, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > from the wiki: > > Video driver loaded at boot time > > Radeon > > The Radeon driver loads one or more firmwares when initializing the > card. If you want to load radeonkms from loader, you must include the > firmwares too, because automatic loading won't work (the filesystem > isn't mounted at the time of the card initialization). > > To list the firmwares required by your card, "kldload" radeonkms and > look at the loaded modules. Here's an example: > > $ kldstat | grep radeonkmsfw > 19 1 0xffffffff81fc0000 189d radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_pfp.ko > 20 1 0xffffffff81fc2000 1ca6 radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_me.ko > 21 1 0xffffffff81fc4000 1325 radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_rlc.ko > > In this case, one would need to build into/load: > > radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_pfp > radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_me > radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_rlc I am using Intel graphics hardware though? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 12:00:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 062376B2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (smtprelay-h31.telenor.se [213.150.131.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82AE1241B for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8375724047 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:00:08 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkIAKAA6lNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABagw2BKYcwzU8BgRQXBQEBAQE4NoQEAQUnExwjEAsYCSUPBRkMChoTiEYBxQAXj0wHgy+BHQEEhhCBN5RxAZhcOy8 X-IPAS-Result: AvkIAKAA6lNT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABagw2BKYcwzU8BgRQXBQEBAQE4NoQEAQUnExwjEAsYCSUPBRkMChoTiEYBxQAXj0wHgy+BHQEEhhCBN5RxAZhcOy8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,848,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="707591090" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 12 Aug 2014 14:00:08 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7CC04Zs006150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:00:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from hasse@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7CC04bL006148; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:00:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:00:04 +0200 From: Hasse Hansson To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: problems with pkg install kde Message-ID: <20140812120004.GA6036@ymer.thorshammare.org> References: <20140811160340.GA1783@ymer.thorshammare.org> <44oavqvicc.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <53E9C789.9000509@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E9C789.9000509@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:00:39 -0000 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 08:51:37AM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > > On 11/08/2014 22:15, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Hasse Hansson writes: > > > >> root@ymer:/home/hasse # pkg install kde > >> Updating repository catalogue > >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > >> FreeBSD_new_xorg repository is up-to-date > >> All repositories are up-to-date > >> Updating database digests format: 100% > >> Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, file pkg_solve.c, line 508. > >> Child process pid=1759 terminated abnormally: Abort trap > > Known bug. pkg-devel has the fix, which will come to the non-devel port > > in the upcoming release. > > I actually tried pkg-devel thinking it would allow me to continue > installing but it too had the same error. In fact I tried a number of > pkg versions. > > It's good to know it's a known issue and will be fixed, though. > ------------------------- Hello. Switching to pkg-devel solved my problem. Thanks a lot. /Hasse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 12:11:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04C10EBA for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91D7925CC for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id z12so9839923wgg.12 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:11:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eowEopP4lsHt+QSj0Yh/1ZwwvAVxMTkY70hlHdYC3m8=; b=UTrxUH5UWXiXBu7cP/04MfWK6Liey9jCNwrzkgmAthqbp8SVwJZvmJK0vrCEQffIrm SIsfRCyqNcaKdXuIMYRnpvz+jSDApPxLGkglcE3gFmR/U/sejtsNfwkGKml8wz/2BoGo eglXIx+ZXiAvM+UCfkKyUpaqnw/x+kQCeQen5TrUssHGkcBgBV5RC2nulotUzpe+bdH0 wKKSPRj2PXLp54WkDgLRoJEqa18FolkcGCQGGkfXednNn1Lox+M9kxeHAfQfopC35ScH GaENW8dl3UGZ2x3D+5qSLLWyO+8jr3ncgKFRfn/5292DL/9S2FDGuwha7QIgk9FMviF6 oA5Q== X-Received: by 10.180.100.230 with SMTP id fb6mr24498086wib.0.1407845485663; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec2dc78.skybroadband.com. [94.194.220.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ej10sm55589962wib.12.2014.08.12.05.11.24 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:11:23 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: gpt label missing after adding gjournal Message-ID: <20140812131123.5a0f79fb@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:11:28 -0000 I followed Warren Block's howto: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html to partition a new drive like this: $ gpart show -l ada1 => 34 5860533101 ada1 GPT (2.7T) 34 6 - free - (3.0K) 40 1024 1 gp0boot (512K) 1064 984 - free - (492K) 2048 8388608 2 gp0root (4.0G) 8390656 33554432 3 gp0swap (16G) 41945088 4194304 4 gp0var (2.0G) 46139392 100663296 5 gp0usr (48G) 146802688 1468006400 6 gp0home (700G) 1614809088 4245723136 7 gp0rest (2.0T) 5860532224 911 - free - (456K) and then I created gp0home.journal and gp0rest.eli.journal when I rebooted gp0home was missing from /dev/gpt $ ls /dev/gpt gp0boot gp0rest gp0root gp0swap gp0usr gp0var The gjournal partition is recognized as /dev/ada1p6.journal and can be mounted, but I can't mount it with the gpt label. Anyone know what's going on? I could glabel it, but I'm wary of committing any data to it without knowing what's going on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 13:29:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B016244 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B939C2EBF for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b8so7877784lan.19 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:29:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=90ojoQHw0Cq6cbTis8LfwmypCeEZA63W1vwCHsMgQU0=; b=ToMyoLAhJVKThmPtG9EtJ82w0hlX8DJEqUk7C03qRC9CGArMpSP3Lw7gZsTZgbELfC aTlBFqOFDpTmaLH0XS7T2VxLQTSnKGk71CnsYFkuxyi+EBmtGdITeTcvmb2KN1CdXSTr rXoIKbGnH2fOpRylY2gNl0pt8wAEwMy2hKc3kd0R5jRCrn+Md+HUuKcKJ6Ha6CxwID2Z qNBEx1gEuodmuBCEBxsX6WiR7AkvZ/rrHPZ/ohbJ2+k4XCIEMnQJQnCm9bgVe1+wAu1R tWgESaTpn/kfHti1dRYZC/NZ3NLOEOp9PP2/AmIsOtE3NSsdF7PJJRBfD86j8Jhw8IyE 62jw== X-Received: by 10.152.9.3 with SMTP id v3mr1560755laa.90.1407850178766; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.43.72 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:29:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:29:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vt console driver To: Jamie Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:29:42 -0000 After X is running what does kldstatus show? You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 13:42:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8A0A50A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from erelay3.ox.registrar-servers.com (erelay3.ox.registrar-servers.com [192.64.117.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51752152 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by erelay1.ox.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A152204A25; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from erelay1.ox.registrar-servers.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (erelay.ox.registrar-servers.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id J3v4Wh0dqnS0; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap1.ox.privateemail.com (imap1.ox.privateemail.com [198.187.29.233]) by erelay1.ox.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE7A2204977; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA134B0008A; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:42:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap1.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap1.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 62v3UVXzidhE; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (186.Red-81-35-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [81.35.74.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DFC7B0008B; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:41:11 +0200 From: Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina To: mgamsjager@gmail.com Subject: Re: vt console driver Message-Id: <20140812154111.bd1c9272133b965fc2f49c5f@fbsd.es> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd11.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:42:14 -0000 On 12/08/2014 12:41, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > from the wiki: > > Video driver loaded at boot time > > Radeon > > The Radeon driver loads one or more firmwares when initializing the > card. If you want to load radeonkms from loader, you must include the > firmwares too, because automatic loading won't work (the filesystem > isn't mounted at the time of the card initialization). > > To list the firmwares required by your card, "kldload" radeonkms and > look at the loaded modules. Here's an example: > > $ kldstat | grep radeonkmsfw > 19 1 0xffffffff81fc0000 189d radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_pfp.ko > 20 1 0xffffffff81fc2000 1ca6 radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_me.ko > 21 1 0xffffffff81fc4000 1325 radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_rlc.ko > > In this case, one would need to build into/load: > > radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_pfp > radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_me > radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_rlc You should add the following in /boot/loader.conf # Video driver loaded at boot time radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_pfp_load="YES" radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_me_load="YES" radeonkmsfw_JUNIPER_rlc_load="YES" radeonkms_load="YES" Regards, -- Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 13:43:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 655356DA for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com (mail-qg0-f42.google.com [209.85.192.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22BF6217D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j5so9546636qga.15 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=/x4UBt8X2cuEYq859t3NGZvzK0no3zILbLECaKyjgz4=; b=CK2mg99PuZ23tMGcImMg3yIfPBEMYsfj74cKYdDetOk1shbEV6sKxMpx9T0VVTTQFw sSIAyncbK2izLNPc4g9U9mAW75R3gmCAklO4pKHxKv1/pEHsIehq/bQBHH3pcb8gflU5 wQW+hqvBE/EZcXmJCK5nJWqAjj1zoAmf4n44FesYXc0oa1sD1p0+oosYg6AKY0gGpF81 hE5/wAa6clbdfa9bKODsAbtq1iRDGWjGck3UT0vJrV/f40KfJlACpIpVLPmunNw9tiRt dkwBPomv1EyRz3UCPA+stur3s8kUQPgYlsy2fxWgCkcJw34c6ztZoyMPu65GM5Z14R9A NnJg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlGIKIUqFLlEEAnr1OgRtLhCyPvasClrjdmeTZRR7tIxe98Jo30d/jNag35B9SlYjyVOx0e X-Received: by 10.224.129.6 with SMTP id m6mr6799796qas.84.1407850994522; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.65] ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j65sm17631149qgf.22.2014.08.12.06.43.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: zpool from 32bit os to 64bit os From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <53E9C0D0.1080206@chroot.pl> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:43:12 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> <53E9C0D0.1080206@chroot.pl> To: Lukasz , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:43:23 -0000 On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:22, Lukasz wrote: > Thank you for answers. I'll try with export/import... I hope my data > will be safe during this operation. :) If you want your data to be really, really safe, then: 1. Make sure to export from the original server. While you *can* force = the import on the new server, I really, really hate using the force = option as the check you are overriding is there for a reason. Sometimes = you don=92t have a choice, but this is not a Disaster Recovery situation = (and you do not want it to become one). 2. When you run the initial `zpool import` on the new system it will = list the zpools it finds *and* their state. If the zpool is not complete = or is any way not clean, then DO NOT IMPORT it and put the drives back = in the old system and figure out what is wrong there. 3. When you run the `zpool import ` also set the = readonly property using the -o option. This way if there is some kind of = incompatibility (and ZFS does check for this and should want you, but it = never really hurts to be paranoid) the new system will not write = anything to the zpool. 4. If the readonly import goes well and all the data is there and looks = good, then export the zpool and import it again without the readonly = property and you should be all set. The above may be overkill (depending on what your data is worth :-), but = I have seen bugs in ZFS (although not very many in the past few years, = I=92ve been using ZFS since about 2007) and the additional time can save = you lots of time in recovery later on. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 14:00:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 888A89A3 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3837C2480 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7CE0Ytw002244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7CE0YwZ002241; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: RW Subject: Re: gpt label missing after adding gjournal In-Reply-To: <20140812131123.5a0f79fb@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: References: <20140812131123.5a0f79fb@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:00:36 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, RW wrote: > > > I followed Warren Block's howto: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > to partition a new drive like this: > > $ gpart show -l ada1 > => 34 5860533101 ada1 GPT (2.7T) > 34 6 - free - (3.0K) > 40 1024 1 gp0boot (512K) > 1064 984 - free - (492K) > 2048 8388608 2 gp0root (4.0G) > 8390656 33554432 3 gp0swap (16G) > 41945088 4194304 4 gp0var (2.0G) > 46139392 100663296 5 gp0usr (48G) > 146802688 1468006400 6 gp0home (700G) > 1614809088 4245723136 7 gp0rest (2.0T) > 5860532224 911 - free - (456K) > > and then I created gp0home.journal and gp0rest.eli.journal > > when I rebooted gp0home was missing from /dev/gpt > > $ ls /dev/gpt > gp0boot gp0rest gp0root gp0swap gp0usr gp0var > > The gjournal partition is recognized as > /dev/ada1p6.journal and can be mounted, but I can't mount it with the > gpt label. > > Anyone know what's going on? Mounting a device, or that device being used by another device, can cause the labels to be hidden. The gp0home.journal device is using /dev/gpt/gp0home, so that device label "withers" and disappears. If you unmount /dev/ada1p6.journal, does /dev/gpt/gp0home become visible again? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 14:23:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 113C94E1 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97E3926FD for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k48so10124552wev.27 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:23:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NCg9u/OgKtpSmOli40dV7qa3x6QAyQfpnljH/Du2QCA=; b=yDnaF+PfI1HvAXKyQYwweKqiDOmdlBcXPEN6MYrjanOJoCcnqt5l02mH/YkRONyWsQ RAUqeuyZVJIY9cTlaRwzH/R4UK3ekED+GMN7xT+lEpX3h4cTzohnS/IK2cJZRz2Yr6UW Fo+/xcUD/5S1eefIxaRFLSASoylR/Y0X7TpTc5KzzvY/T1dBTrFSRMWDaV2CDckxkIPs WYv0/e0DHjXd1l9Lg4+JLuR2jOoAhwLQ1mF/h61BrykzELcV1HCsAchMZq4TTJvVQC+O lCD0DfPNpqJDqG376agu4Ur85i5kMVttXi5m4sy98uGkEmcyheFD8rM4rLeyteUbV4an j0Ng== X-Received: by 10.194.118.201 with SMTP id ko9mr5368476wjb.26.1407853427374; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec2dc78.skybroadband.com. [94.194.220.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft7sm56777450wib.9.2014.08.12.07.23.46 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:23:45 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpt label missing after adding gjournal Message-ID: <20140812152345.2000766b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140812131123.5a0f79fb@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:23:50 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, RW wrote: > > > > > > > and then I created gp0home.journal and gp0rest.eli.journal > > > > when I rebooted gp0home was missing from /dev/gpt > > > > $ ls /dev/gpt > > gp0boot gp0rest gp0root gp0swap gp0usr gp0var > > > > The gjournal partition is recognized as > > /dev/ada1p6.journal and can be mounted, but I can't mount it with > > the gpt label. > > > > Anyone know what's going on? > > Mounting a device, or that device being used by another device, can > cause the labels to be hidden. The label is missing at boot time. I only mounted /dev/ada1p6.journal once just to check it worked - nothing changed when I unmounted it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 15:19:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74248919 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 096C02DFA for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w61so10041174wes.25 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:19:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NYB+lf5VGKjj9V5V3DUZkyYXeDxkDIZnCnHnAy/KvBw=; b=BcPVW73U70jTlTHlvabMg3Sjq0bm1tM2tckaeA8dg9PgfBCrol1VUor878NGzeKBDu FSpt5rf4OtEONsyjkxxRwqGL9D4zINRvO8Q89ElXzapBX7j83XEkwW0Nfq5V8JcjER+P z31gV3eFK8TiFQssqFLnhkl0/HKq0tOvI/42k8pnsE5XV37xXkRUI9ZTNC9vLYmiLr/9 DCSyzxGATT1PMY7hTeGmJGrA5qB0QfYrR2+VF56MzszyzssC+HyGqBu9BHuuklX3r80M RVZqXi2a1yovFN+N53gtf5kwqKMkNC5NbE92jyELBrOkKkBM2yDEfHgK+A7QvpbQwAWS Btqg== X-Received: by 10.194.142.200 with SMTP id ry8mr5918327wjb.37.1407856765941; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft7sm57261811wib.9.2014.08.12.08.19.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:19:14 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Gamsjager Subject: Re: vt console driver References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:19:29 -0000 On 12/08/2014 14:29, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > After X is running what does kldstatus show? > You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf kontrol% kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 75 0xffffffff80200000 1713048 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff81914000 263c00 zfs.ko 3 2 0xffffffff81b78000 6778 opensolaris.ko 4 1 0xffffffff81b7f000 1cb70 snd_uaudio.ko 5 1 0xffffffff81b9c000 4a00 coretemp.ko 6 1 0xffffffff81ba1000 8718 acpi_video.ko 7 3 0xffffffff81baa000 9cf8 libiconv.ko 8 1 0xffffffff81bb4000 2b58 libmchain.ko 9 1 0xffffffff81bb7000 17b0 cd9660_iconv.ko 10 1 0xffffffff81bb9000 17c8 msdosfs_iconv.ko 11 1 0xffffffff81bbb000 abc8 sem.ko 12 1 0xffffffff81bc6000 11d08 tmpfs.ko 13 1 0xffffffff81e11000 52a9 fdescfs.ko 14 1 0xffffffff81e17000 9d2e linprocfs.ko 15 1 0xffffffff81e21000 442df linux.ko 16 1 0xffffffff81e66000 357b ums.ko 17 1 0xffffffff81e6a000 113d6 ipfw.ko 18 1 0xffffffff81e7c000 6a9b6 i915kms.ko 19 1 0xffffffff81ee7000 47aee drm2.ko 20 4 0xffffffff81f2f000 1feb iicbus.ko 21 1 0xffffffff81f31000 1a47 iic.ko 22 1 0xffffffff81f33000 1e4a iicbb.ko the i915kms.ko driver is the right one for the Intel cards, which is built into my kernel already. Is that the one you were thinking of? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 15:23:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BC70A2F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mcmli.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EC1E2EAC for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:558:6017:a2:a860:3073:4c46:6ac9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3hXd903YZdz1DN4 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hXd8z3M6Bz1BrL for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <201408121123120262.00AFDB15@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: References: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> <53E9C0D0.1080206@chroot.pl> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:23:12 -0400 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: zpool from 32bit os to 64bit os Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:23:19 -0000 On 8/12/2014 at 9:43 AM Paul Kraus wrote: |On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:22, Lukasz wrote: | |> Thank you for answers. I'll try with export/import... I hope my data |> will be safe during this operation. :) | |If you want your data to be really, really safe, then: 0. Make at least one backup of the data before doing anything else, and make sure the backup worked. | |1. Make sure to export from the original server. While you *can* force the |import on the new server, I really, really hate using the force option as |the check you are overriding is there for a reason. Sometimes you don=92t |have a choice, but this is not a Disaster Recovery situation (and you do |not want it to become one). | |2. When you run the initial `zpool import` on the new system it will list |the zpools it finds *and* their state. If the zpool is not complete or is |any way not clean, then DO NOT IMPORT it and put the drives back in the |old system and figure out what is wrong there. | |3. When you run the `zpool import ` also set the |readonly property using the -o option. This way if there is some kind of |incompatibility (and ZFS does check for this and should want you, but it |never really hurts to be paranoid) the new system will not write anything |to the zpool. | |4. If the readonly import goes well and all the data is there and looks |good, then export the zpool and import it again without the readonly |property and you should be all set. | |The above may be overkill (depending on what your data is worth :-), but I |have seen bugs in ZFS (although not very many in the past few years, I=92ve |been using ZFS since about 2007) and the additional time can save you lots |of time in recovery later on. | |-- |Paul Kraus |paul@kraus-haus.org | |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to |"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 15:26:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFE3ECA5 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EB922EEF for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7CFQHa2023733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:26:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7CFQGrw023730; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:26:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:26:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: RW Subject: Re: gpt label missing after adding gjournal In-Reply-To: <20140812152345.2000766b@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: References: <20140812131123.5a0f79fb@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140812152345.2000766b@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:26:18 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, RW wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, RW wrote: >> >>> >>> > >>> and then I created gp0home.journal and gp0rest.eli.journal >>> >>> when I rebooted gp0home was missing from /dev/gpt >>> >>> $ ls /dev/gpt >>> gp0boot gp0rest gp0root gp0swap gp0usr gp0var >>> >>> The gjournal partition is recognized as >>> /dev/ada1p6.journal and can be mounted, but I can't mount it with >>> the gpt label. >>> >>> Anyone know what's going on? >> >> Mounting a device, or that device being used by another device, can >> cause the labels to be hidden. > > The label is missing at boot time. I only mounted /dev/ada1p6.journal > once just to check it worked - nothing changed when I unmounted it. Well, the gjournal metadata is still present on that partition. If the gjournal kernel module is loaded, it will automount. (I think, I have not used gjournal.) So maybe 'gjournal stop ada1p6.journal'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 15:50:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C8C14B2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 400912201 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-133.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.133]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7CFnxke004913; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:49:59 -0500 Message-ID: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:56:14 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:50:07 -0000 .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing this one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several years ago). Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get the Mail directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I just copied the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked T-bird on the FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method worked AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box into service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last time I needed to do that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supposed to do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB :-/ .... thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, thunderbird 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 15:58:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CABFC99E for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f49.google.com (mail-qg0-f49.google.com [209.85.192.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 893282415 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id j107so9730799qga.36 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:58:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Z/lMWm/RbviY5l7lS3s35SoArwS5chRYcRF450VH2ww=; b=SRXtFNesFcNhKYFxdZKm0j32MsCZMNe6phkWHUlJbWWB/9Kv57fAREWQ1XJTXxe1m4 NxasutsoixT25tCyp9mrPPVxpE4ohaf2yWjRCMYLe7zaB2SmNz4aUDtJHzgaNxxJ06b/ fjAA75Bwsn2HSEGtGqpVi9tj2oW/DYA6VHgHxZFhf4PtByYDoWsln7lFPLYOfYTIVnn4 DPQTUtSa9wdgq1MS3GCwSHoPaKplxjoMkXUrckAI8Fku+kdA1B90pyuC1CvJng7ukx0s N8X9Sf7oR8lMnqseQQwLG9bddtjP9adiKdQtYVp6PXQwQ5595Z5fsojly4WdCITC/GZk axfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkuDFiZM0HohLNw3kQNnloyXG/o/nmTIn5pEI+ulon4GvApncU849PVFMydmUkSAu0Zv5bA X-Received: by 10.140.47.129 with SMTP id m1mr7592276qga.95.1407859127181; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.65] ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f7sm12194552qas.49.2014.08.12.08.58.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:58:46 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:58:54 -0000 On Aug 12, 2014, at 11:56, William A. Mahaffey III = wrote: > .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to = complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing = this one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several = years ago). Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get = the Mail directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I = just copied the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked = T-bird on the FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. = That method worked AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put = the old box into service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last = time I needed to do that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, = how am I supposed to do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going = back into the '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is = ~20 GiB :-/ .... thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora = box, thunderbird 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers = =85. How is your client accessing the email? IMAP? Did you remember to install and setup your IMAP server? I use dovecot. = Remember to use the same format on the new box (either MailDir or = Mailbox, whichever you used on the old). Or just setup the IMAP server on the new box, configure your email = client to see both, and use it to move the email over. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 16:01:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CD00B8B for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCF4D24C1 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-133.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.133]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7CG1POQ018460 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:01:25 -0500 Message-ID: <53EA3BCC.9010403@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:07:40 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> In-Reply-To: <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:01:27 -0000 On 08/12/14 10:58, Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 12, 2014, at 11:56, William A. Mahaffey III wro= te: > >> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to com= plete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing this = one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several years ago)= =2E Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get the Mail= directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I just cop= ied the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked T-bird on = the FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method= worked AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box= into service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last time I neede= d to do that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supp= osed to do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the= '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB :-/ .= =2E.. thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, thunderbir= d 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers =85. > How is your client accessing the email? IMAP? > > Did you remember to install and setup your IMAP server? I use dovecot. = Remember to use the same format on the new box (either MailDir or Mailbox= , whichever you used on the old). > > Or just setup the IMAP server on the new box, configure your email clie= nt to see both, and use it to move the email over. > > -- > Paul Kraus > paul@kraus-haus.org > > I am retreiving mail from my ISP using their POP3 server, as per the=20 last 20-ish years. T-bird stashes it iv the Mail directory under my user = =2E... No IMAP involved that I know off :-/ ???? --=20 William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 16:22:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02C2A30E for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD0892706 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qemg.mta.ca ([138.73.29.51]:49159 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XHEWX-0001TY-EZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:02:09 -0300 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:07:06 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Hamilton-Wright To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with dump and restore Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:22:40 -0000 I was attempting to restore my /usr partition today, and have encountered some rather terrifying issues using restore. Some background ... I have used dump/restore for several years, very happily, to maintain backups on my machine. I have a level 0 dump of each file system, and then a cron-based script that does higher level dumps on a regular basis. I therefore have dumps at the following levels for this filesystem at the moment: 0, 2, 3, 5 These were created using snapshots, so the level 0 was created via dump 0uLCf 32 - /usr and higher level dumps were created similarly. My uname info is: FreeBSD qemg.org 10.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Tue Jul 8 06:37:44 UTC 2014 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I wanted to restore the /usr partition to the state it was in at the last (level 5) backup. My expected steps to achieve this are: o go to single user (I did this through a full reboot) o create a replacement filesystem on the drive: newfs -O 2 -U -a 4 -b 32768 -d 32768 -e 4096 -f 4096 \ -g 16384 -h 64 -i 8192 -k 0 -m 8 -o time \ -s 415236096 /dev/ada0e o mount the drive as /usr, and change directory to the mount point o restore the level 0 dump restore ruf /backup/dumps/current/usr.dump * this is the first sign of trouble, as restore output the warning expected next file 19266003, got 19100935 o restore the level 2 dump restore ruf /backup/dumps/current/l1d0/l2d0/usr.dump * this failed, indicating that the restore was corrupt (unfortunately I do not have the full text of the errors received, but a complaint that an entry was "not a leaf" was in the first message) Frankly, this terrifies me. If dump and restore cannot be trusted as a robust backup solution, I don't know where to turn to. Some questions then: - is anyone else using dump/restore as their main backup method? Are you using snapshots? If so, have you seen anything like this when running restore? - is there any means of validating the dump file, other than the -N option (which returns no warnings on any of these files)? - does anyone have any advice that may help determine what may have gone wrong? Thanks, Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 16:33:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEE3E860 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com (mail-ig0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BA922847 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hn18so7257613igb.16 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:33:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=56GYEkfZ/NFWmW5JnR1TCdFdOwZYhUlNfe5ilRcx614=; b=scxe9gbwGLPKuKOZOpIWBsqxqKHtysJQTNaMl31ha5/xgWekYbbFJ5RsQTHPIV9uul CcF9ehe2rPAa8z4o18DZO+Er6jozrRJqgkObleU1mN9UEmPczKkAba02iRGy2kM+3NXp kHvqcT1MaFv4qmCUOdZftaIZnRQVtPNb2guaNSiuCcpx0PIz0OaWMvvEBQokNyY8uiva /S4qG9WRKBOwlNPWQaeXXUL+hSP7SYBAhS8IIlGs4wSNNxbq+FBdKIqDesBIcQ8JW7/0 ZtfXuDRdMB/6RmSqJesq9dy/WVxHVIXp4xS1/omNBnn/ymzljHlRwwB6dEODUqR5++9d 2aCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.58.210 with SMTP id j18mr42721046ich.2.1407861203960; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.156.143 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:33:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EA3BCC.9010403@hiwaay.net> References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> <53EA3BCC.9010403@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:33:23 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xfizP7SwAuIfU_Fho2e0kYH3BjE Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... From: Olivier Nicole To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:33:24 -0000 William, >>> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to >>> complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing = this >>> one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several years ag= o). >>> Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get the Mail >>> directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I just co= pied >>> the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked T-bird on th= e >>> FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method w= orked >>> AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box into >>> service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last time I needed to= do >>> that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supposed t= o do >>> this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the '90's, w= hich >>> I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB :-/ .... >>> thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, thunderbird 31= on >>> the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers =E2=80=A6. >> >> How is your client accessing the email? IMAP? >> >> Did you remember to install and setup your IMAP server? I use dovecot. >> Remember to use the same format on the new box (either MailDir or Mailbo= x, >> whichever you used on the old). >> >> Or just setup the IMAP server on the new box, configure your email clien= t >> to see both, and use it to move the email over. >> >> -- >> Paul Kraus >> paul@kraus-haus.org >> >> > > > I am retreiving mail from my ISP using their POP3 server, as per the last > 20-ish years. T-bird stashes it iv the Mail directory under my user .... = No > IMAP involved that I know off :-/ ???? Your first message was really unclear, so Paul assumed you were trying to set-up an email server, while all you are doing is an email client. First of all, with your new machine, can you access the POP3 server of your ISP, can you read mail from there? Can you send mail too? Once that is working, create a new test mail folder, find out where Tbird did create that mail folder and copy your mail from the old machine to the new machine with the same scheme as the new test folder. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 16:39:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92C66AA4 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f52.google.com (mail-qg0-f52.google.com [209.85.192.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FE0A289F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f51so9593228qge.39 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:39:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ZumZoEaWeRpK/f6QjknIF8K3v5NmrGA7HsUmmtywOeY=; b=BDMwKSt7sU1t2/6pcWLFCwcAqWvxA8moZF5cbY3xeP1EVq6LIQN/bkQ4v02xXdkc4W 7aNif1qjrpXAs90Nv9w1p2kqlNhoVZ4rt3hUGTRR2UzznGwLCkxXxTj8YHPVcvycTpnw 2WIdJFVg+9iUdfK3GQxsYUo1jtLcVXtZCydCskP3Orq7oWPznKrhoBKBcropbkTkg9uB 7Xfzx8QdP8D2k/aiFuBZTvRA81IgrEShc3BEizEm8MixXgVz26ZsczUoEzlG+QZrukUU aDTuEjecfd+I86xdwJ374cUaEFu0pRalWNnc3Q/rWdTy+joQLPndtetQ3WlaGaqScEsG gP1g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQluuPFu0DDLY5XNJJbGjIca+acfL3w2iGqrPET7+HrGGvZR7xQAyA5OafN8UUuJ4LbYoZoU X-Received: by 10.140.88.41 with SMTP id s38mr7954908qgd.73.1407861149581; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.65] ([96.236.21.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h31sm18057562qge.33.2014.08.12.09.32.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <53EA3BCC.9010403@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:32:28 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> <53EA3BCC.9010403@hiwaay.net> To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:39:26 -0000 On Aug 12, 2014, at 12:07, William A. Mahaffey III = wrote: > I am retreiving mail from my ISP using their POP3 server, as per the = last 20-ish years. T-bird stashes it iv the Mail directory under my user = .... No IMAP involved that I know off :-/ ???? Ahh, so T-bird is just manipulating the email files directly. I have not = worked with email that way in over 15 years, so I have little useful = advice to give, other than to check and make sure that T-bird is looking = for the files in the right place and format. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 16:53:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10FF1F61 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C711B2A82 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D5183CF80; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:53:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7CGr5JE004143; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:53:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:53:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Kraus Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... Message-Id: <20140812185305.c8089768.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:53:15 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:58:46 -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: > Did you remember to install and setup your IMAP server? > I use dovecot. Remember to use the same format on the > new box (either MailDir or Mailbox, whichever you used > on the old). > > Or just setup the IMAP server on the new box, configure > your email client to see both, and use it to move the > email over. For locally stored or cached messages, use Thunderbird's import and export feature. It's often easier than to copy the whole subtree vs. dealing with those strange account "hashes". Does Thunderbird use mbox or MailDir storage format? I'm not sure. Maybe only the import step is needed if it's mbox and you've copied the mailboxes... And make sure you also configure your account(s) as on the old system. Maybe it's not possible to transfer those settings (huge version difference). Keep the old system going for reference as long as you don't have the new one up and running. If you're using IMAP, it should be quick and easy, maybe re-caching the messages is needed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 18:10:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CA7E54B for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B4C23200 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id bs8so6166659wib.2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N8l2/3h+xBDUbFZty9MIggxtWQ9+kCpmerD4SaKARpQ=; b=qlkg4ivxQ04HvhrGUZj/RTBChbNGavAaa5/eqAxmV4tnpIhgC4nPSzgA5ap+pRnsJA CyMLYAjpXwWxtqBphh2t2YEvPnj2wMmV0EaoHtwNbrHPSsdjdhQBLSb7gEUBSr3ZZp78 LGC8Fv2LsP1ShePL8MsvGXexvDgXLm52yAmavCNpt89eZzcFn/T/q9KQKFnxKWb893x6 KFw/nqHGSRry6Hvxg1C6q6Ok1NXwXTpvVvi5gQwy182HxzzW7KwS4M11HzGY19+T1RwF MHgHQt5tKHopEhiaKrM5Ugy9Yn3GKN0EVyuGG3noIu+RvJxGtWaAnJ7gLNpc5jEW5PFQ mGkw== X-Received: by 10.181.13.112 with SMTP id ex16mr28303132wid.58.1407864783005; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec2dc78.skybroadband.com. [94.194.220.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fs3sm58391799wic.20.2014.08.12.10.33.02 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:33:01 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpt label missing after adding gjournal Message-ID: <20140812183301.18a46b43@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140812131123.5a0f79fb@gumby.homeunix.com> <20140812152345.2000766b@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:10:30 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:26:16 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, RW wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) > > Warren Block wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, RW wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > > > >>> and then I created gp0home.journal and gp0rest.eli.journal > >>> > >>> when I rebooted gp0home was missing from /dev/gpt > Well, the gjournal metadata is still present on that partition. If > the gjournal kernel module is loaded, it will automount. (I think, I > have not used gjournal.) > > So maybe 'gjournal stop ada1p6.journal'. That made ada1p6.journal go way, and gp0home and gp0home.journal reappear. That doesn't directly fix the problem at boot time, but I suspect it means that I should have created gp0home.journal with the option -h Hardcode provider names in metadata. It's in several geom man pages, but I've never understood the point of it until now, I've always run gjournal on geli where there's no ambiguity. Unfortunately gjournal stop makes it switch to the other device name, so it not possible to clear. I'm going to start again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 18:12:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE209BCC for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AAA2D6E for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19A8946B0C; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s7CHEWjI041984; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:14:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s7CHEWiB041977; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:14:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:14:32 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... In-Reply-To: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:12:04 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to complete > before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing this one > (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several years ago). > Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get the Mail > directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I just copied > the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked T-bird on the > FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method worked > AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box into > service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last time I needed to do > that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supposed to do > this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the '90's, which I > want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB :-/ .... > thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, thunderbird 31 on > the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers .... > imapsync From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 18:56:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BE87D9A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2EDF207F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7CIuMf3041337; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:56:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D9AF512547; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:56:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:56:21 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... Message-ID: <20140812185621.GA7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:56:26 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:56:14AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 >=20 > .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to=20 > complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing=20 > this one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several=20 > years ago). Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get= =20 > the Mail directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I= =20 > just copied the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked=20 > T-bird on the FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/.= =20 > That method worked AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put= =20 > the old box into service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last= =20 > time I needed to do that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not,= =20 > how am I supposed to do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going= =20 > back into the '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is= =20 > ~20 GiB :-/ .... thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora=20 > box, thunderbird 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers .= =2E.. Check the permissions and ownership on the folders and files. Even if your username and group name are the same, the *numerical* UID and GID might be different. Is thunderbird configured the same on both machines. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6mNVAAoJEED21dyjijPgOFQQAKumEp7tCwNDw6tIA75FWuEr TkUtTYBo+EP+FPASTG99zt+p+H7jF+uyEwKkbhX4pLboP68mHXw9PLA8C492IkXI 4JBMXSL2lBPOvhV8zbheV6QpBRg8+kj4qnD+DAzGDykiFw1w/28dpn6Y11ZqyOT4 TJugW7e1Cw03VvkZm1m4ZtwB/3sCKCChNKkKqfn+W5yrZWE1/s6iDmU+mZrxs93p HPfjwU/YT1va8N6bJ/mseX+XN7+KopdbsxeCkGN1W8YNZGbxC1dknsLOMD4TvSXk NFb48wvu1MpeSkEGB8sCpoA4v9804XsrMpHcNmty4LIo01jL5iHScn1H3Yery4BR GzMOfH1w7fqEVPcebMyKxp2jc1x89vAUGD0n0AGDEfvRctO2aKkVuSXV87RxYTGF 6dxy49ZvHk2R2DHLD+Y4XlIQbiy+med5XHiPi767Rqg/X49EVJlPg6rPGcq8QXv4 ZL3zhsZinmQvCLScZFxRZDYGIrIIuD8BACYUckl6U0Sj3x8U7bQlodDrcteb++UM sJuY+RZvksJ5j6hk4xWTN5RdfHwr3EbGw7dc9WjGqd6ghCBIvQfnhr99UKv/6los i2r8QwUtpU/4f6A7aBc9WiZdPwPzfhDhtwy7rjapWhdNJ8+WBWheo2ifqENEmAcd sw2yrFDK1odb7L33iZfZ =BVm+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:16:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04BF1500 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C542922BC for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-133.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.133]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7CJGgiL014615 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: <53EA6991.4070101@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:22:57 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <20140812185621.GA7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140812185621.GA7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:16:45 -0000 On 08/12/14 13:56, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:56:14AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to >> complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing >> this one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several >> years ago). Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get >> the Mail directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I >> just copied the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked >> T-bird on the FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. >> That method worked AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put >> the old box into service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last >> time I needed to do that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, >> how am I supposed to do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going >> back into the '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is >> ~20 GiB :-/ .... thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora >> box, thunderbird 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers .... > Check the permissions and ownership on the folders and files. Even if your > username and group name are the same, the *numerical* UID and GID might be > different. > > Is thunderbird configured the same on both machines. > > > Roland numerical UIDs & GIDs are identical. Both T-birds identical as near as I can tell, a bit touch going back & forth w/ 2 machines :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:30:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1497E9F6 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC4FF24D5 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qemg.mta.ca ([138.73.29.51]:49201 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XHHh4-0005YN-5a; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:25:14 -0300 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:30:11 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Hamilton-Wright To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore In-Reply-To: <20140812184330.GA20285@amd118.area52.afnoapps.usaf.mil> Message-ID: References: <20140812184330.GA20285@amd118.area52.afnoapps.usaf.mil> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:30:16 -0000 Hi Karl -- thanks for your thoughts and response. On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Karl Vogel wrote: >> I have used dump/restore for several years, very happily, to maintain >> backups on my machine. > > Just to be clear: you've *restored* from dumps before and had no problems? Yes, on several occasions, usually when changing disk layout or structure. The most recent occasion was at least six months ago (possibly a bit more), likely using FreeBSD 9.2. Being used for structural changes, I therefore normally do a zero level dump, and then need only a zero level restore. I have had a couple of disks go south on me in the last years, however, and on those occasions did several restore levels to recover the data on multiple partitions that were on the dead disk -- with absolute success. >> I wanted to restore the /usr partition to the state it was in at the last >> (level 5) backup. My expected steps to achieve this are: >> o create a replacement filesystem on the drive: > > Did you use the same newfs options to create the original /usr partition? > I don't have a FreeBSD box in front of me right now, so I'm grasping at > any available straw here. Yes; even verified the options using dumpfs -m to ensure that the setup was exactly the same as what I had in my logbook. >> o restore the level 0 dump >> restore ruf /backup/dumps/current/usr.dump >> * this is the first sign of trouble, as restore output the warning >> expected next file 19266003, got 19100935 > > Can restore show a table of contents for that dump, so you know what files > correspond to those inodes and where it might be crapping out? Sure -- from the table of contents, inodes 19266003 refers to ./local/share/licenses/patch-2.7.1/catalog.mk while inode 19100935 is not listed in the dump at all. > Can you restore any of that level-0 dump at all? If so, can you restore > single files or some parts of the tree, like /usr/local? If it's expecting > a file and finds a directory in the dump instead, maybe that's something > you could fix by hand before restoring in a piecemeal fashion. The "expected next file" error is the only error from the level 0 restore. As far as I can tell, everything except for that single file has come back fine, from the level 0 dump. In the time since I sent the first message, I have booted the machine back to multiuser (the zero level is from July 11, so close enough that I can stagger along for a little bit), and re-run the restore on a scratch volume that I have available. Progressing to the level 2 restore (there having been no level 1 dump performed), the complete set of error messages from both restores are: + restore ruf /backup/dumps/current/usr.dump expected next file 19266003, got 19100935 + restore ruf /backup/dumps/current/l1d0/l2d0/usr.dump ./src: (inode 10032000) not found on tape ./ports: (inode 14205312) not found on tape bad entry: removeleaf: not a leaf name: ./local/share/licenses/openldap-client-2.4.39 parent name ./local/share/licenses sibling name: ./local/share/licenses/RSTTMP03130448 next entry name: ./local/share/licenses/openldap-client-2.4.39/OPENLDAP entry type: NODE inode number: 3613621 flags: NIL abort? [yn] y dump core? [yn] n None of the inodes listed in the error messages are in the output from the table of contents. After attempting the level 2 restore, the top-level directory of the recovered filesystem looks like this: .snap games lib32 obj swap RSTTMP010032000 home libdata restoresymtable tests RSTTMP014205312 include libexec sbin bin lib local share The RSTTMP* directories contain additional RSTTMP* entries for unnamed found cruft, but some recognizable files: # ls RSTTMP01* RSTTMP010032000: COPYRIGHT RSTTMP010192614 RSTTMP010834806 LOCKS RSTTMP010272816 RSTTMP010915023 MAINTAINERS RSTTMP010272822 RSTTMP011075378 Makefile RSTTMP010272857 RSTTMP011075564 Makefile.inc1 RSTTMP010272860 RSTTMP011235981 ObsoleteFiles.inc RSTTMP010353048 RSTTMP011236023 README RSTTMP010353178 RSTTMP011236050 RSTTMP010032001 RSTTMP010353195 RSTTMP011236093 RSTTMP010112261 RSTTMP010513687 UPDATING RSTTMP010192569 RSTTMP010834762 RSTTMP014205312: .arcconfig RSTTMP014205917 RSTTMP014207366 RSTTMP014447559 RSTTMP015170651 .gitignore RSTTMP014206111 RSTTMP014207415 RSTTMP014606720 RSTTMP015248825 CHANGES RSTTMP014206140 RSTTMP014207416 RSTTMP014687196 RSTTMP015249051 CONTRIBUTING.md RSTTMP014206371 RSTTMP014207431 RSTTMP014687230 RSTTMP015250173 COPYRIGHT RSTTMP014206656 RSTTMP014207509 RSTTMP014688864 RSTTMP019341927 GIDs RSTTMP014207111 RSTTMP014207550 RSTTMP014689162 RSTTMP03290912 INDEX-10.db RSTTMP014207165 RSTTMP014207557 RSTTMP014768653 RSTTMP03531831 INDEX-7 RSTTMP014207172 RSTTMP014207580 RSTTMP014768663 RSTTMP03531837 INDEX-8 RSTTMP014207196 RSTTMP014207597 RSTTMP014848208 RSTTMP03532331 INDEX-9 RSTTMP014207212 RSTTMP014207598 RSTTMP014848898 RSTTMP03532533 INDEX-9.db RSTTMP014207266 RSTTMP014207602 RSTTMP014849014 RSTTMP03534719 MOVED RSTTMP014207267 RSTTMP014366176 RSTTMP014928591 RSTTMP03692298 Makefile RSTTMP014207277 RSTTMP014367788 RSTTMP015088613 RSTTMP03932616 README RSTTMP014207318 RSTTMP014368109 RSTTMP015088615 RSTTMP05538024 RSTTMP014205313 RSTTMP014207329 RSTTMP014446601 RSTTMP015088621 RSTTMP07865164 RSTTMP014205612 RSTTMP014207338 RSTTMP014446815 RSTTMP015089051 UIDs RSTTMP014205756 RSTTMP014207341 RSTTMP014447545 RSTTMP015169454 UPDATING The first entry appears to be data for /usr/src, while the second is /usr/ports, which makes sense given the error messages and the recent security updates that have touched both of these directories (so the fact that they are changed since July 11 makes sense). >> Is there any means of validating the dump file, other than the -N >> option (which returns no warnings on any of these files)? > > That's one reason I got away from the Solaris version, which had no > problem lying to me about success or failure. All I can think of is to > try restoring the entire dump under /tmp (or someplace trashable that won't > mess up your system) and look for errors before you trust the dumpfile. I suppose I am in agreement -- but also in shocked amazement that dump and restore can be broken without the sky falling. > I remember using dump to quickly get me a list of files that have changed > since the corresponding /etc/dumpdates entry, and then making a backup > using pax or cpio. Maybe that would work for you. I'm not sure that I understand your suggestion here -- are you suggesting this as a future backup strategy as a replacement for dump levels higher than zero? Perhaps I am missing something here. > Feel free to repost if you think it's worth the bandwidth. Good luck. Doing so, in case anyone else can weigh in with any further ideas. Thanks for the suggestions and ideas. I suppose I will now open a bugreport, too, as it does seem that there is something not right. Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:34:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FFE9BF9 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37103258B for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7CJYJqw052238; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:34:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ABD9C12611; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:34:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:34:19 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore Message-ID: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:34:24 -0000 --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:07:06PM -0300, Andrew Hamilton-Wright wrote: >=20 > I was attempting to restore my /usr partition today, and have encountered > some rather terrifying issues using restore. >=20 >=20 > Some background ... >=20 > I have used dump/restore for several years, very happily, to maintain > backups on my machine. >=20 > I have a level 0 dump of each file system, and then a cron-based script > that does higher level dumps on a regular basis. I therefore have dumps > at the following levels for this filesystem at the moment: 0, 2, 3, 5 >=20 > These were created using snapshots, so the level 0 was created via > dump 0uLCf 32 - /usr > and higher level dumps were created similarly. In 2011, a problem was found with snapshots in combination with soft updates *and* journaling (SU+J) hanging the machine. At that time the recommendation was to switch off journaling. According to https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates journal for that filesystem. This bug was fixed toward the end of 2011; https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D160662 Personally I make dumps *only* from filesystems that are unmounted or mount= ed read-only, so never from a =E2=80=9Clive=E2=80=9D filesystem, just to be on= the safe side. > My uname info is: > FreeBSD qemg.org 10.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Tue Jul 8= 06:37:44 UTC 2014 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/= sys/GENERIC amd64 > I wanted to restore the /usr partition to the state it was in at the last > (level 5) backup. My expected steps to achieve this are: > o go to single user (I did this through a full reboot) > o create a replacement filesystem on the drive: > newfs -O 2 -U -a 4 -b 32768 -d 32768 -e 4096 -f 4096 \ > -g 16384 -h 64 -i 8192 -k 0 -m 8 -o time \ > -s 415236096 /dev/ada0e > o mount the drive as /usr, and change directory to the mount point > o restore the level 0 dump > restore ruf /backup/dumps/current/usr.dump > * this is the first sign of trouble, as restore output the warning > expected next file 19266003, got 19100935 This is mentioned in the restore's manpage; expected next file , got A file that was not listed in the directory showed up. This c= an occur when using a dump created on an active file system. > o restore the level 2 dump > restore ruf /backup/dumps/current/l1d0/l2d0/usr.dump > * this failed, indicating that the restore was corrupt (unfortunately > I do not have the full text of the errors received, but a complaint > that an entry was "not a leaf" was in the first message) >=20 > Frankly, this terrifies me. If dump and restore cannot be trusted > as a robust backup solution, I don't know where to turn to. >=20 > Some questions then: > - is anyone else using dump/restore as their main backup method? Yes, operating system filesystems like /, /usr and /var, which can contain flags and hard links and such. These filesystem's aren't all that big, so dumps are relatively quick. For my large /home filesystem I rather use rsync, because it copies less and so is much faster. > Are you using snapshots? No, because of the aforementioned bug that surfaced in 2011. > If so, have you seen anything like this when running restore? I've had hangs and corrupted dumps when dumping live filesystems. > - is there any means of validating the dump file, other than the -N > option (which returns no warnings on any of these files)? Not that I know of. I generally make and verify checksums when copying dumps to other machines or external harddrives. > - does anyone have any advice that may help determine what may have > gone wrong? Try using restore's =E2=80=9Cdegraded=E2=80=9D mode (using the =E2=80=98-D= =E2=80=99 option) and use the =E2=80=98-y=E2=80=99 option. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6mw7AAoJEED21dyjijPgeZcP/jF3rLJRzZANnUMJqn28pg7K YR7vJXjfAOUf3ISLziZwMr+bFrgnzx5WtmMQmXmg9kRjGNnv8OaD3tXrjWSz71Hs VJRX4Y4Jt1YNTjSiwSrIB4/XwaGZiX3G7CjhVLGstzSJWXF9cMn/JYRXig8j8kNS gKD894Lx4ghP9EJKfWshkSOTSX714a4bg7eRRlBKhRgXPfFpwJ7oCQn3aeb4Fhyk csYFoG2Ez8Puk6wc/ZygmBLIv+86G26TvGYYk+V4ei3M6UjAznqOzmXGE3vK5o6P +DHgB+QaMA4olqChMZy+7/q2TyfEFDmEZvaOvQX9wFzn2oft/WYVhTm87bhSB5Ug m08wvYoS2/Z4QkD6AdSQjkqmAk2SJPAu8/tJ+m0wrW2iSkmjnBY8KjAYiGFDkKgh A7/G2LKJ19SYMhg8lbMkRG0IlbLlSOzSvrAQbkJyFKb9opE6V0z9N32D9qCIpp3a PW6XkmpiNC9x3BiaYKJXkky1t7kETLe6UuSaEtjn87w7jto7riyQqJ7Dz0XJ9jhy 0ncyCerE2OpPk2V0KZ2D17hi/jh6pi3/zLSbOWy/9WUcEn3Al6iNkwhfDq0nbH0l 2n8oV4idFkxwNbIXySU5QtJBF7PS+dXbQYP4va7Q9BgqqDSxZKGMvgkZCBPWt04w LQM0g3QhZn7eFUt0dyQL =vw+R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:48:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F11DB7F7 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C459726F2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qemg.mta.ca ([138.73.29.51]:49163 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XHHya-0005tU-6M; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:43:20 -0300 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:48:17 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Hamilton-Wright To: Roland Smith Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore In-Reply-To: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Message-ID: References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:48:21 -0000 Hi Roland -- thanks for the suggestions. On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:07:06PM -0300, Andrew Hamilton-Wright wrote: > [ ... condensed ... ] >> These were created using snapshots, so the level 0 was created via >> dump 0uLCf 32 - /usr >> and higher level dumps were created similarly. > > In 2011, a problem was found with snapshots in combination with soft > updates *and* journaling (SU+J) hanging the machine. At that time the > recommendation was to switch off journaling. > According to https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: > > If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates > journal for that filesystem. > > This bug was fixed toward the end of 2011; > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=160662 > > Personally I make dumps *only* from filesystems that are unmounted or mounted > read-only, so never from a “live” filesystem, just to be on the safe side. I had forgotten about the soft update issue. I am not sure that that is related, as the machine is running 10.0 and the level 0 dump was created in July, but it is definitely worth lowering the complexity of the problem. I will ensure that soft updates are off before dumping in the future. > This is mentioned in the restore's manpage; > > expected next file , got > A file that was not listed in the directory showed up. This can > occur when using a dump created on an active file system. True, but my understanding of snapshots is that it is supposed to eliminate exactly this problem, no? >> Some questions then: >> - is anyone else using dump/restore as their main backup method? > > Yes, operating system filesystems like /, /usr and /var, which can contain > flags and hard links and such. These filesystem's aren't all that big, so > dumps are relatively quick. What options are you using? Are you using dumplevels? >> Are you using snapshots? > > No, because of the aforementioned bug that surfaced in 2011. > >> If so, have you seen anything like this when running restore? > > I've had hangs and corrupted dumps when dumping live filesystems. Good to know. >> - is there any means of validating the dump file, other than the -N >> option (which returns no warnings on any of these files)? > > Not that I know of. I generally make and verify checksums when copying dumps > to other machines or external harddrives. Yes -- I suppose I have gotten lazy in that regard. >> - does anyone have any advice that may help determine what may have >> gone wrong? > > Try using restore's “degraded” mode (using the ‘-D’ option) and use the ‘-y’ > option. I have started that running on a scratch device, and will report back with results. Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:48:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19C768BB for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "webmail2.dweimer.local", Issuer "webmail2.dweimer.local" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D95C82707 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s7CJRCHd040117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:27:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:27:11 -0500 From: dweimer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?mod=5Fdav=5Fsvn-=31=2E=38=2E=31=30?= Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:48:50 -0000 Anyone else unable to get mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 to install after the update? Running on a 10.0-RELEASE-p7 system, it built without errors, but failed during install: ===> Installing for mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: libapr-1.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so.0.5.1) ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: libsqlite3.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6) ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: libexpat.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6.0.0) ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: libsvn_client-1.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libsvn_client-1.so.0.0.0) ===> Checking if mod_dav_svn already installed ===> Registering installation for mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 pkg-static: lstat(/var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.so): No such file or directory *** Error code 74 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:51:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 370539BB for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C296B27CB for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7CJpkgH060725; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:51:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B3D6612503; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:51:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:51:46 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... Message-ID: <20140812195146.GC7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <20140812185621.GA7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53EA6991.4070101@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QRj9sO5tAVLaXnSD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53EA6991.4070101@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:51:50 -0000 --QRj9sO5tAVLaXnSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:22:57PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/12/14 13:56, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:56:14AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to > >> complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing > >> this one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several > >> years ago). Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to g= et > >> the Mail directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with,= I > >> just copied the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked > >> T-bird on the FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. > >> That method worked AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I p= ut > >> the old box into service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last > >> time I needed to do that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, > >> how am I supposed to do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives goi= ng > >> back into the '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory = is > >> ~20 GiB :-/ .... thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora > >> box, thunderbird 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointer= s .... > > Check the permissions and ownership on the folders and files. Even if y= our > > username and group name are the same, the *numerical* UID and GID might= be > > different. > > > > Is thunderbird configured the same on both machines. > > > > > > Roland >=20 > numerical UIDs & GIDs are identical. Both T-birds identical as near as I= =20 > can tell, a bit touch going back & forth w/ 2 machines :-/ .... Mozilla has detailed instructions for moving your profile folder to another machine[1] or making a backup[2]. I suggest you try one of those. [1]: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder [2]: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup Or try =E2=80=9Cexporting=E2=80=9D it from the old Thunderbird and =E2=80= =9Cimporting=E2=80=9D it into the new ones. It has been my observation that the way Mozilla apps handle data is not exactly KISS, with copied profiles not working for unclear reasons. Maybe t= hat's inevitable, but this is one of the reasons I still prefer old fashioned mbox files. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --QRj9sO5tAVLaXnSD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6nBSAAoJEED21dyjijPgdjcP/RIJCkt+h9m9s8pAXsunwa6D yKzdiNKyooZq6NDnPWanWDkOox+YL1pGH8ZwbVNAqWJ80eLHZZNwIjWxlK2sU28J BCJVuXzH3bseNbuicZMp/Wbw6X6Y/t6vf15Cuiii9cEEhM3Jj+9DrvivrHBA/IaR VPQL8bMkpHBp4wSxlvJkoOK1IujTmk5L3cyE3jHlbcI38tyHOtoYZKsg7LqMoaxa 5dPycUvuss+y3herapm32C/hYMe4WVazIJWvE6LnVdf8IDXZlrsRjFyijNeOgY1j 1vxdIKkK4xAOcfGa+AoYFEUF/8ssnCMGheWE/vSPHL5ySKP3fH65iLct+JuQvvSW aA1TsiTzRHBUYdCTK1NiDMF9ePd4lmAW6KivVCGNjFTJcVzbJXAi8Ku8ApGufkP1 dPs0ijusXYweEPkCnLN6gIwnBatOIhI0rZADH0NqEk0YjH9pr1Qk6NkO1VDisTOE SMQY4Ho/Dt55B798JoEyirVmnNYDa+lAaEAqanETQeIYHHi25nnyWDmoT9ur98+E qUNVNRAAV4TBU8PVcvbCzsYd/ug4svxbVlCOqP152XkGwokLkumNv3sGiTY5muMc JYNuMUMiuUP0dJxFx1Piaq1WWv95ON3cN7gGwiK5fZ2nzsR88DxackQXaY9u/n6X LQzRs2NX5q93uYHFRokL =R7UT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QRj9sO5tAVLaXnSD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:56:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBD40C1C for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43042825 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C04333C46; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3344539814; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:56:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh Subject: Re: ident name and kernel 10 References: <1407727682.14647.4.camel@debian> <20140811095953.2b1519f0.freebsd@edvax.de> <1407839576.14647.12.camel@debian> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:56:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1407839576.14647.12.camel@debian> (Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh's message of "Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:02:56 +0430") Message-ID: <44tx5h8ote.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:56:22 -0000 Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh writes: > you said true but i added some command: > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > make kernel KERNCONF=MYK > shutdown now > boot with single user#### This should be "shutdown -r now". The point is to boot the new kernel before doing the installworld. > mount -u / > mount -a -t ufs > swapon -a > adjkerntz -i > mergemaster -p > cd /usr/src > make installworld > mergemaster -iF > make delete-old > reboot > Normal boot### > make delete-old-libs > uname -r returns MYK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:57:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F73EFF4 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com (mail-lb0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC515284C for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id v6so7389561lbi.38 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:57:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=e2RKp9JeDm1Vjiaxvn9nCnz1FKD332ciultd1D1hlOo=; b=icaBQRNY2UxkPMmiSlAFYohF8+/E7j/FD78AP0OK8Xx7CF7ESDn51mUCOoGfSVxyOt aLTEEn34xz76JbkqctFqdz0uLGDoLMgEfyExMZVaYaFqiJsZl9SbtOMSdjzDGaNrwhhp uoQtAHnLTgEor9s6NdIGwfToeIwtjM8x0xgcquChWuXDV8T3DRQ/AoOtmLxx4TDyTaLZ sffKH84B6Ko5p7XIh3h0/Fzi4SBob2Y3bZlvCupsuAAhWyAmDn2Q6su6uXkSlpSLzeFv cFKN67nyKBq6GbJaBMaTptvjvfei6WM39HX1tpJ2AqmTC7H6Ft0Db7aW50csmCXibJR1 e0hA== X-Received: by 10.112.87.41 with SMTP id u9mr4215545lbz.97.1407873443145; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:57:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.43.72 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:56:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:56:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vt console driver To: Jamie Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:57:26 -0000 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Jamie Griffin wrote: > > On 12/08/2014 14:29, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: >> >> After X is running what does kldstatus show? >> You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf > > kontrol% kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 75 0xffffffff80200000 1713048 kernel > 2 1 0xffffffff81914000 263c00 zfs.ko > 3 2 0xffffffff81b78000 6778 opensolaris.ko > 4 1 0xffffffff81b7f000 1cb70 snd_uaudio.ko > 5 1 0xffffffff81b9c000 4a00 coretemp.ko > 6 1 0xffffffff81ba1000 8718 acpi_video.ko > 7 3 0xffffffff81baa000 9cf8 libiconv.ko > 8 1 0xffffffff81bb4000 2b58 libmchain.ko > 9 1 0xffffffff81bb7000 17b0 cd9660_iconv.ko > 10 1 0xffffffff81bb9000 17c8 msdosfs_iconv.ko > 11 1 0xffffffff81bbb000 abc8 sem.ko > 12 1 0xffffffff81bc6000 11d08 tmpfs.ko > 13 1 0xffffffff81e11000 52a9 fdescfs.ko > 14 1 0xffffffff81e17000 9d2e linprocfs.ko > 15 1 0xffffffff81e21000 442df linux.ko > 16 1 0xffffffff81e66000 357b ums.ko > 17 1 0xffffffff81e6a000 113d6 ipfw.ko > 18 1 0xffffffff81e7c000 6a9b6 i915kms.ko > 19 1 0xffffffff81ee7000 47aee drm2.ko > 20 4 0xffffffff81f2f000 1feb iicbus.ko > 21 1 0xffffffff81f31000 1a47 iic.ko > 22 1 0xffffffff81f33000 1e4a iicbb.ko > > > the i915kms.ko driver is the right one for the Intel cards, which is built > into my kernel already. Is that the one you were thinking of? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 19:58:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA4B315A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72613286D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b8so8441400lan.33 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=cpkRjdNaGDblFQBvjr5DploD2BymyP71P+0nMQHeCgw=; b=R+VHdBl/BhUqY9J2w9kDzWNWzUEDL9Cv7gkqcU+yOJaYZVulo5EzGHB/3pYdBDYKBF UtnKv5EscwY1zVm6JTG+Al8vCx9TQDN8yBw4y6br3Qu/cS1yTD6vUw40v/35iA0To8eJ m8zhtDxg93aGHfqKKHdGtCZqGYCzNIbZ/J2n4VtJHBPhEvUxrXxrI/z3K50GiEf4lrFx KZ3eiMUf3/leiZuhluVlSti4brCmot2Z09voGLkOJtJBT0QDHV7WLrwPydwEkZSUCUjd 84YecnWRV4zdqk9RLLKNS71VdaugVrpOOWoNBEjypFAiijbp5pHK5Muz17n3VmoefZR6 0nZw== X-Received: by 10.152.29.135 with SMTP id k7mr45752lah.14.1407873526436; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:58:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.43.72 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:58:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:58:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vt console driver To: Jamie Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:58:49 -0000 Hmm if it's already in the kernel you don't need to load it AFAIK. Maybe someone else has an idea? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:04:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C92C484 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22b.google.com (mail-we0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A33F32980 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id p10so10390104wes.30 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:04:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fv16Z8nfLPjwl97kxDckpwIePYEBIGgvi8lZ/UPOa7g=; b=Mok2z6+09JjuquMqezeUA9XC1264PJ3jUYYSWXQ7/+unjz+4lPedWjk6hESNYwVUgn 1WRpuu94K8q0oxEfkgxSO9gFsAP2fhXeO2c/nlUgrvLxyftfm/IzCdvBD2TGo9vQJX/r 1a6dBJsL3YEKzT8ksOh99mgT0G393RaansV2mXrbDSgtcfqgJ2xt+plb1+fEpGvLLdj7 iFdoYRpzG49PV5w2hPujNzJ5V47txQdZikQcwDO+WFQObwrvr/Vyof993DsHiT+70It5 +hRKo49UlNy2NeO6eP80DazdkBpWta2miG/97RlsjNwABq0qXRPRSjC+x+9hYC+M5cJx h15A== X-Received: by 10.194.89.168 with SMTP id bp8mr3139648wjb.53.1407873880875; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d2sm155200wiy.13.2014.08.12.13.04.39 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EA7356.4060904@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:04:38 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: vt console driver References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthias Gamsjager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:04:43 -0000 On 12/08/2014 20:58, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > Hmm if it's already in the kernel you don't need to load it AFAIK. > Maybe someone else has an idea? I definitely don't load the module if it's in the kernel, but are there any other tunables I need to use to get it to display properly, it does work as i've got the proper display when I switch to another console using ctrl-alt-Fn. Perhaps I need to use a vidcontrol video mode? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:05:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0DB9534 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7D472993 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-68.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.68]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7CK5kUD019123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:05:46 -0500 Message-ID: <53EA7510.6020109@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:12:00 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> <53EA3BCC.9010403@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:05:48 -0000 On 08/12/14 11:33, Olivier Nicole wrote: > William, > >>>> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to >>>> complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing this >>>> one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several years ago). >>>> Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get the Mail >>>> directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I just copied >>>> the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked T-bird on the >>>> FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method worked >>>> AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box into >>>> service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last time I needed to do >>>> that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supposed to do >>>> this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the '90's, which >>>> I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB :-/ .... >>>> thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, thunderbird 31 on >>>> the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers …. >>> How is your client accessing the email? IMAP? >>> >>> Did you remember to install and setup your IMAP server? I use dovecot. >>> Remember to use the same format on the new box (either MailDir or Mailbox, >>> whichever you used on the old). >>> >>> Or just setup the IMAP server on the new box, configure your email client >>> to see both, and use it to move the email over. >>> >>> -- >>> Paul Kraus >>> paul@kraus-haus.org >>> >>> >> >> I am retreiving mail from my ISP using their POP3 server, as per the last >> 20-ish years. T-bird stashes it iv the Mail directory under my user .... No >> IMAP involved that I know off :-/ ???? > > Your first message was really unclear, so Paul assumed you were trying > to set-up an email server, while all you are doing is an email client. > > First of all, with your new machine, can you access the POP3 server of > your ISP, can you read mail from there? Can you send mail too? > > Once that is working, create a new test mail folder, find out where > Tbird did create that mail folder and copy your mail from the old > machine to the new machine with the same scheme as the new test > folder. > > Bests, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Good call, old box used .../Mail/mail.hiwaay.net, new one uses .../Mail/pop3.hiwaay.net .... I just got everything copied & it looks good .... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:07:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 420356AF for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF09429C6 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7CK7dc5001407; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:07:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BCD4D12503; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:07:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:07:38 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore Message-ID: <20140812200738.GD7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wULyF7TL5taEdwHz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:07:49 -0000 --wULyF7TL5taEdwHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:48:17PM -0300, Andrew Hamilton-Wright wrote: >=20 > > This is mentioned in the restore's manpage; > > > > expected next file , got > > A file that was not listed in the directory showed up. Thi= s can > > occur when using a dump created on an active file system. >=20 > True, but my understanding of snapshots is that it is supposed to > eliminate exactly this problem, no? Yes, it should. But while UFS is old and mature and one would expect most b= ugs to be fixed by now, relatively new additions like SU+J will probably have m= ore bugs. (No slight to the maintainers intended, BTW! FreeBSD is generally rock-solid in my experience) > >> Some questions then: > >> - is anyone else using dump/restore as their main backup method? > > > > Yes, operating system filesystems like /, /usr and /var, which can cont= ain > > flags and hard links and such. These filesystem's aren't all that big, = so > > dumps are relatively quick. >=20 > What options are you using? Are you using dumplevels? Generally I only use level 0 dumps for ease of restore. I use the following script to make dumps from single user mode. To save on disk space I don't d= ump those parts of /usr that can be easily downloaded, like src and ports. This= is accomplished by setting =E2=80=98nodump=E2=80=99 flags and using dump's =E2= =80=98-h 0=E2=80=99 option. Note that I've put /tmp on a separate filesystem; I need someplace to store the dumps on. :-) #!/bin/sh # Shell script to perform dumps on all important filesystems. # This script is designed to run under single-user mode from /root. # # Author: R.F. Smith # $Date: 2014-04-13 20:05:32 +0200 $ # # To the extent possible under law, Roland Smith has waived all copyrig= ht and # related or neighboring rights to dodumps. This work is published from= the # Netherlands. See http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ export PATH=3D/sbin:/bin:/rescue export DDATE=3D$(date "+%Y%m%d") export DLVL=3D0 export DDIR=3D/tmp # Enumerate the mount points to dump. MNTS=3D"/ /usr /var" echo -n "Setting nodump flags..." chflags nodump /usr/obj /usr/ports /usr/src /usr/local/texlive/2013 echo "done." echo -n "Unmounting filesystems before dumping..." cd /root mount -u -r / umount -f /usr umount -f /var echo "done." echo "Performing level "$DLVL" dump for mount points "$MNTS"." for p in $MNTS; do case $p in '/') export FSNAME=3D/root;; *) export FSNAME=3D${p};; esac OUTF=3D${DDIR}${FSNAME}-${DLVL}-${DDATE}.dump # Set the dump command options. echo "Dumping $p to $OUTF" DCMD=3D"dump -${DLVL} -a -b 64 -C 32 -R -h 0 -f ${OUTF} " $DCMD $p done echo "Done making dumps." echo -n "Re-mounting filesystems after dumping..." mount -u -w / mount /usr mount /var echo "done." > >> - does anyone have any advice that may help determine what may have > >> gone wrong? > > > > Try using restore's =E2=80=9Cdegraded=E2=80=9D mode (using the =E2=80= =98-D=E2=80=99 option) and use the =E2=80=98-y=E2=80=99 > > option. >=20 > I have started that running on a scratch device, and will report back with > results. Good luck! Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --wULyF7TL5taEdwHz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6nQKAAoJEED21dyjijPgP7wQAJfXlqm3RW20up6sXBvpcFxT pOkwQhlFTNkFqKn8H9gMeBe+nptUBdlQ1ATDylH420VRuDxgvCRpncPDtWxpoNfi Fm0gVhGmbqRvdMmCTHUBpFRn+bfR2bUTPA7pWwSMLsYZuN4lxnPo8/RkckyIgydB /HU+4HO1RIuvPiGNBo+kMszxlYaYHyRpzhvarvg6pGj2+BFcpu8QMQihqytOrw2q hvDGVBI3Q+zFkjq/pLQPOVy4kwqVk0F7d3PsZ/GORQsmIKcFOyLdo5yEvfkaVWsi ORjvcLOBpYv0SWnefyy9Xavm+zefX7Ng6yryBHpTI38PBBZq6pXIOW4qlcc/4Xpq e9zgI1swEDhGcZr7C2Gthu0Vo3Hs9dpJibAImpjefygFEqURXiv1A1GKGgvg+jMP 1OjSelM+HbzQT1BJriI27jqc51CUtmhJGIELkXHrqxEoO7HXxkkDloCvGTTdMWh5 6Uwa128qY1hAcY33DAbHtIt+9ZtZGZKeDq3rVp/MqX5HpQgGIu6y/FeedUN7FvyH MGtvAXRTV87XfcjMDBE0+fyIksY/QI0bOwlAnkbMgXRnEMDtGxsgLwQe8VhG/7Df BIeAvQEFHU02bkHAu0JCCU7yRet3V54eroMkxDVm7cwSHl8+7AyVW4Oj286s7+Im 0n/MvaYQDCjkDBmHxODO =b4kF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wULyF7TL5taEdwHz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:13:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D098DAEF for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 825702AB4 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7CKDEN0027025; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:13:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7750012503; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:13:14 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: vt console driver Message-ID: <20140812201314.GE7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Jamie Griffin , Matthias Gamsjager , FreeBSD Questions References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ffoCPvUAPMgSXi6H" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Matthias Gamsjager , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:13:23 -0000 --ffoCPvUAPMgSXi6H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: >=20 > On 12/08/2014 14:29, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > > After X is running what does kldstatus show? > > You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf > kontrol% kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 75 0xffffffff80200000 1713048 kernel > 2 1 0xffffffff81914000 263c00 zfs.ko > 3 2 0xffffffff81b78000 6778 opensolaris.ko > 4 1 0xffffffff81b7f000 1cb70 snd_uaudio.ko > 5 1 0xffffffff81b9c000 4a00 coretemp.ko > 6 1 0xffffffff81ba1000 8718 acpi_video.ko > 7 3 0xffffffff81baa000 9cf8 libiconv.ko > 8 1 0xffffffff81bb4000 2b58 libmchain.ko > 9 1 0xffffffff81bb7000 17b0 cd9660_iconv.ko > 10 1 0xffffffff81bb9000 17c8 msdosfs_iconv.ko > 11 1 0xffffffff81bbb000 abc8 sem.ko > 12 1 0xffffffff81bc6000 11d08 tmpfs.ko > 13 1 0xffffffff81e11000 52a9 fdescfs.ko > 14 1 0xffffffff81e17000 9d2e linprocfs.ko > 15 1 0xffffffff81e21000 442df linux.ko > 16 1 0xffffffff81e66000 357b ums.ko > 17 1 0xffffffff81e6a000 113d6 ipfw.ko You will need to load *all* the modules below (or compile them in). > 18 1 0xffffffff81e7c000 6a9b6 i915kms.ko > 19 1 0xffffffff81ee7000 47aee drm2.ko > 20 4 0xffffffff81f2f000 1feb iicbus.ko > 21 1 0xffffffff81f31000 1a47 iic.ko > 22 1 0xffffffff81f33000 1e4a iicbb.ko Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --ffoCPvUAPMgSXi6H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6nVaAAoJEED21dyjijPgsjQQAKJVNkDMZm5P031geeBF+dpD adEayRACpM8mfXliUA7typBiuuA9iWLQ4vPUVHyGI0YeM9AY8WX/SnCYrKYpN/JS 9b/mcNb7JjHH1IuM6UQ6cbjdeGsj2uNdVRplkIMLk3SKGgCQSXRcPVY0nSQ0+Cne em6vp46e6LnYbVw6LvwNpYw6e3N7j098rD8XCp2u+IslWfY9Joh6q78nkDOcMH2Z pOclpgFLDHpKqkyZmUbEekMcWnJ1k9wEaSsE4jtVAmW+IzkUnvVlNnyf4kNAa6LN d62mbnuIkcVQTI8thcxR7fSmePct8TODGatbQEXpuvP1CEOstj+5kv6zD8oADZi2 Jn5I1fkvznjKVTgi2pu4qunm/uS9efatJwic+dMKB4QgH0OS67EUX0Ay3189Ca6c TqXvU6BlE8MccE5eC1wdpoxYUoTAAbv0Dr7YqLnr5FWo7iyLVMh/hrfMaZAs/C3d 9y+1ZuazBQhq8n7p8/Q1hCLN1bKPu+IT+vRuTePQ3SrtGTtjw/xFFMmGSt4Y6oG7 cHCG5FZEDUx9299H47pG8vsb5Y3GqG/T7naADh4uZZ606sotZ8zFVrDgeBL24QJi XIBMC2vFc9M3umsQm+XDN0bsZLYQWo06y7MWYzLf5eRApQWrw+sWRWxSh7+Ohij9 uz3EkWRxiczIOXzE9gFw =I3uT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ffoCPvUAPMgSXi6H-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:14:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A77C7BB9 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B1782ACB for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qemg.mta.ca ([138.73.29.51]:49174 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XHIOM-0006HQ-NI; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:09:58 -0300 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:14:56 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Hamilton-Wright To: Roland Smith Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:14:59 -0000 Sorry, a bit of a follow up after some reading, as the soft-update bit was itching in my memory... On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Roland Smith wrote: > In 2011, a problem was found with snapshots in combination with soft > updates *and* journaling (SU+J) hanging the machine. At that time the > recommendation was to switch off journaling. > According to https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: > > If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates > journal for that filesystem. I have just realize that the soft update journal (newfs option -j enable) is actually not in play here, however "soft updates" (option -U) is. My understanding of the referenced bug: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=160662 is that it is specifically referred to _journaled_ soft updates as being a danger, but soft updates using -U are not referred to by this bug. Is that your understanding as well? I believe that when I set up the filesystems for this machine in the first place, I specifically ensured that "-j disable" was chosen, for exactly this reason -- however my logbook does not contain enough detail for me to be sure. To be clear then, do I understand that your filesystem options include neither "-j enable" nor "-U"? Thanks, Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:20:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74675F72 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1AD32B3A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id mc6so8468433lab.34 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=XNa4KrncZFIYF/nsR5WTFf43u84oDgXZ+VBzCVsn+jo=; b=FVw4M4pBotNhlhKaIaoxWWTIeJW6ERRAkMaWpx0TS7KetR1vUNCJFMBRcY5RVUBJpY IoReNPnzPccZ7CjP7VUDtTm0VIhX4TNGNZPeo5B1KquxU9NnXHqCbq82uCqDUQ59Ei9N oJcz6EO1WnmMv+APLBp8QXgj4cW6hctT1eIRVJ24QlX884Zgd+IxLmHNrnXD6t92QRGt Od8cvNP1psmCOk1ZMpI6ZTT05i8ImVNkMvlfaO6XD+A1s7WJFZTCiah51A7JUPWoo7wv XSTNehYXViZzqfxz/+e8Iw/VJyl9U246UcRO9KENaQqE7NQXYvFPHFBGuUnBqEWCJJoR puOw== X-Received: by 10.152.9.3 with SMTP id v3mr34671laa.90.1407874810886; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:20:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.43.72 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:19:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EA7356.4060904@gmail.com> References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> <53EA7356.4060904@gmail.com> From: Matthias Gamsjager Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:19:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vt console driver To: Jamie Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:20:13 -0000 > I definitely don't load the module if it's in the kernel, but are there any > other tunables I need to use to get it to display properly, it does work as > i've got the proper display when I switch to another console using > ctrl-alt-Fn. Perhaps I need to use a vidcontrol video mode? No should work after loading the modules. Kernel boots till the videocard section and then switches to highres mode (at least it did with my radeon). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:31:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 457B1C64 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE1EE2E33 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id b13so10482169wgh.22 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:31:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NekrK8EmlboyNCRuSWf3RXxemCMm13L/mMLna+kzqW8=; b=wh6vhA6K9T2g8HAWvDxfvP0/2hj1FbJEEdAqSS1b9R1992ttcbCN7RMcWPfyT8m4R/ eaPDztUwJmm7xPJN+M0T1g5fQWAQW3dt/21gTHCkJzHu+7Ewnk5VmdwwbtNRuFijy20o 6c3pw9DNrT9OpRlnyX7aJg+LFWkGwe5Tsq/v1PDghhkgjr1PgFB0mwOe72ESSutsUFMo eGaMe9f2i+AW9j8VYjhkKS6qcNWyXKLFB0L/2CC33ZKVE4tuKUdFJq+7OYDIfviP0zrK jVhKBsoT2mh20dRlo5cgPd/SSjNxVDphrOva26U6nyHtiFdJlH5sX/TASl1T4QyyUUiJ JKgg== X-Received: by 10.194.71.52 with SMTP id r20mr7075458wju.113.1407875505093; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hp6sm342299wib.23.2014.08.12.13.31.43 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EA79AE.5060405@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:31:42 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: vt console driver References: <53E9D1DE.2010401@gmail.com> <53EA00B7.6070505@gmail.com> <53EA3072.4000907@gmail.com> <20140812201314.GE7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140812201314.GE7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:31:47 -0000 On 12/08/2014 21:13, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: >> On 12/08/2014 14:29, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: >>> After X is running what does kldstatus show? >>> You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf >> kontrol% kldstat >> Id Refs Address Size Name >> 1 75 0xffffffff80200000 1713048 kernel >> 2 1 0xffffffff81914000 263c00 zfs.ko >> 3 2 0xffffffff81b78000 6778 opensolaris.ko >> 4 1 0xffffffff81b7f000 1cb70 snd_uaudio.ko >> 5 1 0xffffffff81b9c000 4a00 coretemp.ko >> 6 1 0xffffffff81ba1000 8718 acpi_video.ko >> 7 3 0xffffffff81baa000 9cf8 libiconv.ko >> 8 1 0xffffffff81bb4000 2b58 libmchain.ko >> 9 1 0xffffffff81bb7000 17b0 cd9660_iconv.ko >> 10 1 0xffffffff81bb9000 17c8 msdosfs_iconv.ko >> 11 1 0xffffffff81bbb000 abc8 sem.ko >> 12 1 0xffffffff81bc6000 11d08 tmpfs.ko >> 13 1 0xffffffff81e11000 52a9 fdescfs.ko >> 14 1 0xffffffff81e17000 9d2e linprocfs.ko >> 15 1 0xffffffff81e21000 442df linux.ko >> 16 1 0xffffffff81e66000 357b ums.ko >> 17 1 0xffffffff81e6a000 113d6 ipfw.ko > You will need to load *all* the modules below (or compile them in). > >> 18 1 0xffffffff81e7c000 6a9b6 i915kms.ko >> 19 1 0xffffffff81ee7000 47aee drm2.ko >> 20 4 0xffffffff81f2f000 1feb iicbus.ko >> 21 1 0xffffffff81f31000 1a47 iic.ko >> 22 1 0xffffffff81f33000 1e4a iicbb.ko > Roland These were loaded, it's the output of kldstat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:32:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3F50D1A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com (mail-pa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 898B62E47 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id lf10so13644023pab.2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3PUJ30c5as7zKDF2tJwDBIZHgA0z9RrEEVpvWW9QbrU=; b=vyWt3NbfWqNv0v7qdiAGR3+zBhogO8E0G+ibEFIUNVXW35z48qoBWJ9oTk4iyMdKON 3ecHoeO4LQ4mofDA7/+zJli7fZJzXVq0EsHp8Q6qDjZ3UI/aRRVrUS5bsfYFT7Gpn4RX C6qo65v0cFrv6i3iCdyrBxvoUrNzOE0VKxK4jgOta7EEd2QZtYW9Tj7VTmKPAqpaVfKo zjAxXX7JzBA1VLZw9qkwB+atZj7d7s0gSA+3bZbyvXdOziko/c1XuXIi5d5b88NUc8SJ y6zPiSBzldLemMXcIwMlq8D17VGTSg2oi3jD+OF9gGsIPwAEsHe5djbndtD/X0Zvd9Am 5svA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.191.34 with SMTP id gv2mr59220pbc.13.1407875554243; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.118.132 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:32:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore From: Adam Vande More To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:32:34 -0000 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Andrew Hamilton-Wright < AHamiltonWright@mta.ca> wrote: > > Sorry, a bit of a follow up after some reading, as the soft-update > bit was itching in my memory... > > > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Roland Smith wrote: > > In 2011, a problem was found with snapshots in combination with soft >> updates *and* journaling (SU+J) hanging the machine. At that time the >> recommendation was to switch off journaling. >> According to https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: >> >> If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates >> journal for that filesystem. >> > > I have just realize that the soft update journal (newfs option -j enable) > is actually not in play here, however "soft updates" (option -U) is. My > understanding of the referenced bug: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=160662 > is that it is specifically referred to _journaled_ soft updates as being > a danger, but soft updates using -U are not referred to by this bug. > > Is that your understanding as well? > > I believe that when I set up the filesystems for this machine in the first > place, I specifically ensured that "-j disable" was chosen, for exactly > this reason -- however my logbook does not contain enough detail for > me to be sure. > > > To be clear then, do I understand that your filesystem options include > neither "-j enable" nor "-U"? As stated in the bug, only SU+J needs disabling for live dumps. However, since the bug doesn't even apply to your situation, this is a red herring. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 20:41:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E8E52E8 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3E0F2033 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7CKeuLE041484; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:40:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AF48112503; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:40:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:40:56 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore Message-ID: <20140812204056.GA7591@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Hamilton-Wright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:41:00 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:14:56PM -0300, Andrew Hamilton-Wright wrote: >=20 > Sorry, a bit of a follow up after some reading, as the soft-update > bit was itching in my memory... >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > In 2011, a problem was found with snapshots in combination with soft > > updates *and* journaling (SU+J) hanging the machine. At that time the > > recommendation was to switch off journaling. > > According to https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: > > > > If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates > > journal for that filesystem. >=20 > I have just realize that the soft update journal (newfs option -j enable) > is actually not in play here, however "soft updates" (option -U) is. My > understanding of the referenced bug: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D160662 > is that it is specifically referred to _journaled_ soft updates as being > a danger, but soft updates using -U are not referred to by this bug. >=20 > Is that your understanding as well? Yes. If you look at the mailing lists traffic around that time you'll see t= hat it was the *combination* of SU+J that had problems. > I believe that when I set up the filesystems for this machine in the first > place, I specifically ensured that "-j disable" was chosen, for exactly > this reason -- however my logbook does not contain enough detail for > me to be sure. Run `mount` and you'll see which options are set on your mounted filesystem= s; /dev/ada0p2 on / (ufs, local, noatime, journaled soft-updates) > To be clear then, do I understand that your filesystem options include > neither "-j enable" nor "-U"? No, I use SU+J. But I do dumps from single user mode on unmounted or read-o= nly filesystems so snapshots aren't used. And every month or so I run a *full* fsck before making the dumps. These measures might be considered an overabundance of caution on my part. But I've actually lost a couple harddisks due to hardware failure over the years. And since it's little effort I'd rather be safe than sorry. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6nvYAAoJEED21dyjijPgKPUQALxDd7OccT6ZvWT2wOqTCxWS GCIZLDpln10Ga75XTewSOlIvH5/elnXhI7EJdBdDxh9Q4e7PIDbuTlG5oG5Xvldx FumhO1Gj5s7QCdO/Oe5Yq0uYDj4MnkV8XGrIsoJHVF+z61htybpQUbh96DYeglPC 7w1js9tGRprWpfVATHs+oU4YJtkEpAl4lUbDseQ8f4qm6dJLjJUvkZCY1Kwd6TxL lTeh4ByHtM3hxiOfmHy9fHpxPyXFHupC7k4r1eeaaF+3T4J1PrxKZ3NcMWuRavgt lqLO1d1md/fSr4U5mGvos1BWGQt2xhROR4oG6gEQ7mucbTs3nW4ZxOdINnKRmQP/ YRJF8FluruWEeluFxiizgYoSXetK/EFf00N6cw7aonCwhZrr3cPgt3WwglUAYELN P/DApSA0Pe0mR1bB3QzIc5IJYuWM4eKbi/9rE+GcHUpz7zYZ1NrT90MsGvWT8UPj ZpfLkJJiOcuR1QPx5K0L0NC0PDXryge/eyaIgnI1ozRPlqLA1YfRlMG1gRC4LcgE hO2ozwgE6QQywmxfi1ChtdciC+oS+jQ2xwXy+0diTMy0I9ooV9ZbgjNyTwi2cGtV KyrLDjTb+bOLAt09wadxM6+uj7IvIVGZjaW88GPyvWpgBiUECCPwcCf/JTrtKcxj jsxQVn8Dz05OvI30r3xY =rrdr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 21:04:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC2358C1 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DD872240 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7CL4pGd013610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:04:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7CL4pjV013572; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:04:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:04:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Roland Smith Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore In-Reply-To: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> Message-ID: References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andrew Hamilton-Wright X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:04:53 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Roland Smith wrote: > In 2011, a problem was found with snapshots in combination with soft > updates *and* journaling (SU+J) hanging the machine. At that time the > recommendation was to switch off journaling. > According to https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: > > If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates > journal for that filesystem. > > This bug was fixed toward the end of 2011; > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=160662 The snapshot code still does not support snapshots of mounted SUJ filesystems: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_snapshot.c?revision=262678&view=markup#l234 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 21:11:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3070D9BE for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from erelay3.ox.registrar-servers.com (erelay3.ox.registrar-servers.com [192.64.117.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A583228D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by erelay1.ox.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F89D2204987 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from erelay1.ox.registrar-servers.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (erelay.ox.registrar-servers.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jUrEHdzHvK8W for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap2.ox.privateemail.com (imap2.ox.privateemail.com [198.187.29.234]) by erelay1.ox.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A112204680 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5938C0080 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:11:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap2.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PTbb0Svrnb-5 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (186.Red-81-35-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [81.35.74.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8D5C8C007D for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:10:00 +0200 From: Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vt console driver Message-Id: <20140812231000.533454a264fb5cb2ad8cadf1@fbsd.es> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd11.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:11:03 -0000 On 12/08/2014 21:13, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: >> On 12/08/2014 14:29, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: >>> After X is running what does kldstatus show? >>> You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf >> kontrol% kldstat >> Id Refs Address Size Name >> 1 75 0xffffffff80200000 1713048 kernel >> 2 1 0xffffffff81914000 263c00 zfs.ko >> 3 2 0xffffffff81b78000 6778 opensolaris.ko >> 4 1 0xffffffff81b7f000 1cb70 snd_uaudio.ko >> 5 1 0xffffffff81b9c000 4a00 coretemp.ko >> 6 1 0xffffffff81ba1000 8718 acpi_video.ko >> 7 3 0xffffffff81baa000 9cf8 libiconv.ko >> 8 1 0xffffffff81bb4000 2b58 libmchain.ko >> 9 1 0xffffffff81bb7000 17b0 cd9660_iconv.ko >> 10 1 0xffffffff81bb9000 17c8 msdosfs_iconv.ko >> 11 1 0xffffffff81bbb000 abc8 sem.ko >> 12 1 0xffffffff81bc6000 11d08 tmpfs.ko >> 13 1 0xffffffff81e11000 52a9 fdescfs.ko >> 14 1 0xffffffff81e17000 9d2e linprocfs.ko >> 15 1 0xffffffff81e21000 442df linux.ko >> 16 1 0xffffffff81e66000 357b ums.ko >> 17 1 0xffffffff81e6a000 113d6 ipfw.ko > You will need to load *all* the modules below (or compile them in). > >> 18 1 0xffffffff81e7c000 6a9b6 i915kms.ko >> 19 1 0xffffffff81ee7000 47aee drm2.ko >> 20 4 0xffffffff81f2f000 1feb iicbus.ko >> 21 1 0xffffffff81f31000 1a47 iic.ko >> 22 1 0xffffffff81f33000 1e4a iicbb.ko > Roland > These were loaded, it's the output of kldstat Load i915kms.ko driver in /etc/rc.conf via kld_list as following: kld_list='i915kms' -- Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 21:26:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 206B4CC8 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x231.google.com (mail-we0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD3042538 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id w62so10305105wes.8 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:25:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j/h1hQckm+DAf79ASHoZOFrgNkgnUiHgvGVxaA2bAus=; b=iB2wtCOZ2jcg3hIm9iNXsa2OWvj0A5SxkZ9KhptnjnULO8MVgRkMWk//BZSHGIVbuL dzGt630Mrm8LcFk231caFxcR374JeL6gto+8j6R4dRJ3iNwVvFlrg4FDUxCeKrD8duMt GkEZZQwqktuZDcaQ2+MFXA5NqJeE4wtwQublegzsixiym06p8wLYGyINTyklDvMip+rD 1GrlK119pYoW4nAY1jPpuK22LPxDuZamFYezkEsiAwn0qmtmgaxSaDoKA16UXgiHw8cQ +wA+KPS8dmKVEh6WsuowqXI65QuJrEQNcv6BFST8sorZeG4q4Thpvhuy8HIdtAqPk9sP bmrw== X-Received: by 10.194.123.129 with SMTP id ma1mr349760wjb.80.1407878759027; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fe5sm11899422wjc.12.2014.08.12.14.25.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EA8664.6000701@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:25:56 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vt console driver References: <20140812231000.533454a264fb5cb2ad8cadf1@fbsd.es> In-Reply-To: <20140812231000.533454a264fb5cb2ad8cadf1@fbsd.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:26:01 -0000 On 12/08/2014 22:10, Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina wrote: > On 12/08/2014 21:13, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: >>> On 12/08/2014 14:29, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: >>>> After X is running what does kldstatus show? >>>> You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf >>> kontrol% kldstat >>> Id Refs Address Size Name >>> 1 75 0xffffffff80200000 1713048 kernel >>> 2 1 0xffffffff81914000 263c00 zfs.ko >>> 3 2 0xffffffff81b78000 6778 opensolaris.ko >>> 4 1 0xffffffff81b7f000 1cb70 snd_uaudio.ko >>> 5 1 0xffffffff81b9c000 4a00 coretemp.ko >>> 6 1 0xffffffff81ba1000 8718 acpi_video.ko >>> 7 3 0xffffffff81baa000 9cf8 libiconv.ko >>> 8 1 0xffffffff81bb4000 2b58 libmchain.ko >>> 9 1 0xffffffff81bb7000 17b0 cd9660_iconv.ko >>> 10 1 0xffffffff81bb9000 17c8 msdosfs_iconv.ko >>> 11 1 0xffffffff81bbb000 abc8 sem.ko >>> 12 1 0xffffffff81bc6000 11d08 tmpfs.ko >>> 13 1 0xffffffff81e11000 52a9 fdescfs.ko >>> 14 1 0xffffffff81e17000 9d2e linprocfs.ko >>> 15 1 0xffffffff81e21000 442df linux.ko >>> 16 1 0xffffffff81e66000 357b ums.ko >>> 17 1 0xffffffff81e6a000 113d6 ipfw.ko >> You will need to load *all* the modules below (or compile them in). >> >>> 18 1 0xffffffff81e7c000 6a9b6 i915kms.ko >>> 19 1 0xffffffff81ee7000 47aee drm2.ko >>> 20 4 0xffffffff81f2f000 1feb iicbus.ko >>> 21 1 0xffffffff81f31000 1a47 iic.ko >>> 22 1 0xffffffff81f33000 1e4a iicbb.ko >> Roland >> These were loaded, it's the output of kldstat > Load i915kms.ko driver in /etc/rc.conf via kld_list as following: > > kld_list='i915kms' > Just that one or the others Roland recommended as well (in rc.conf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 22:15:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57C4C3F8 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22c.google.com (mail-we0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E01E32B2F for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x48so10632487wes.31 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jLrUfSQs7nccALRHxaIowmYfGL5ZnPg02QE1Msr9Lyo=; b=UgRTGHMNAE3p/KuP+UpLwgVzecx0TPIi00K3W0SwQ6U7phbo1qQPQM0AUbSH1EiCmo ZoKzT1dcZvh8B+EU9lSVtiw9T9m6TfANbaj5CrL+nrDQRwPatmV1iD/K0Ul5vYqPyz7G H6zXOHMy24cwPJtjf+utTlvlHQPODAo4ur7BZ+lg5Eb2JuyaPJTfMEgY99e4Hihph7Fy VDTYXZmYqSoybztqSXIsfJVzRzeAYtlSab/062xmKUzDae1MLxObTmQa364DLokP9LXj 1TSU6CmmTBgLcPikGljSBOC4GMty47/6KQYxb9TwY06CpBjFfq76B7ocerHyqKvZhbxi XnvA== X-Received: by 10.180.84.66 with SMTP id w2mr34584962wiy.27.1407881730106; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u3sm1228502wif.12.2014.08.12.15.15.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EA91FF.6040908@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:15:27 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vt console driver References: <20140812231000.533454a264fb5cb2ad8cadf1@fbsd.es> In-Reply-To: <20140812231000.533454a264fb5cb2ad8cadf1@fbsd.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:15:32 -0000 On 12/08/2014 22:10, Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina wrote: > On 12/08/2014 21:13, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: >>> On 12/08/2014 14:29, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: >>>> After X is running what does kldstatus show? >>>> You need to add the same video related modules to the loader.conf >>> kontrol% kldstat >>> Id Refs Address Size Name >>> 1 75 0xffffffff80200000 1713048 kernel >>> 2 1 0xffffffff81914000 263c00 zfs.ko >>> 3 2 0xffffffff81b78000 6778 opensolaris.ko >>> 4 1 0xffffffff81b7f000 1cb70 snd_uaudio.ko >>> 5 1 0xffffffff81b9c000 4a00 coretemp.ko >>> 6 1 0xffffffff81ba1000 8718 acpi_video.ko >>> 7 3 0xffffffff81baa000 9cf8 libiconv.ko >>> 8 1 0xffffffff81bb4000 2b58 libmchain.ko >>> 9 1 0xffffffff81bb7000 17b0 cd9660_iconv.ko >>> 10 1 0xffffffff81bb9000 17c8 msdosfs_iconv.ko >>> 11 1 0xffffffff81bbb000 abc8 sem.ko >>> 12 1 0xffffffff81bc6000 11d08 tmpfs.ko >>> 13 1 0xffffffff81e11000 52a9 fdescfs.ko >>> 14 1 0xffffffff81e17000 9d2e linprocfs.ko >>> 15 1 0xffffffff81e21000 442df linux.ko >>> 16 1 0xffffffff81e66000 357b ums.ko >>> 17 1 0xffffffff81e6a000 113d6 ipfw.ko >> You will need to load *all* the modules below (or compile them in). >> >>> 18 1 0xffffffff81e7c000 6a9b6 i915kms.ko >>> 19 1 0xffffffff81ee7000 47aee drm2.ko >>> 20 4 0xffffffff81f2f000 1feb iicbus.ko >>> 21 1 0xffffffff81f31000 1a47 iic.ko >>> 22 1 0xffffffff81f33000 1e4a iicbb.ko >> Roland >> These were loaded, it's the output of kldstat > Load i915kms.ko driver in /etc/rc.conf via kld_list as following: > > kld_list='i915kms' > I just tried this and it worked. I set kern.vty=vt and hw.vga.textmode=1 in loader.conf; then kld_list='i915kms' in rc.conf and it that did it. Incidentally, with keymap="uk.iso.kbd" an error is shown stating it can't load it as no such file or directory; I tried it from the commandline and got the same error, so i tried using the full path name and that was ok. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 23:34:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B46F7C3 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 028CD26A2 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB6F598DE21; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F11A598DABF; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:34:26 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140812233426.GA25757@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812022709.GA84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812072832.da0166dc.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140812072832.da0166dc.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:34:34 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 07:28:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > The text is kept in the console buffer until reboot. Of > course saving something to /tmp when you have enabled > a cleanup for /tmp isn't optimum. In this case, choices > like /root/fsck.txt or even /fsck.txt (for temporary > storage) would have been okay. >=20 I'm learning more about this. Most of my experience is with Linux so this is where my assumptions come from. First, I didn't know that scroll lock was the secret to being able to scroll back in these text mode terminals; second, I didn't know that the arrow keys were then the appropriate means for doing so; and third, I assumed you had to reboot after playing in single-user mode. > For the next time: You can use mdconfig to temporarily > allocate a RAM disk, then use script to record the whole > console session (including fsck output), afterwards run > "mount -a" and copy the log fron the RAM disk to a more > permanent place. Just in case. This may well be coming. I had roughly 48 good hours. Now, it's crashing again. I suppose I can't be surprised if the remaining memory card has now gone bad (the vendor is sending me replacements for both, despite my saying only one had gone bad). I realized I had a 32GB partition available for use as a swap partition. I had deviated from the default installation by allocating an EFI partition. It's manifestly clear that this is not needed. And it's more than large enough (actually about twice the needed size) for a complete memory dump (I'm presently running on 8GB, but the specification is for 16GB). I've gone in with gdisk and changed that partition's type, so hopefully the next time, I'll actually get a dump. Not that I've figured out what to do with one once I have it. Having changed that file sytem type, it wanted me to reboot. So I did, and while doing so, went into single user mode to do fsck -fy. The first pass was not clean; but all the messages were about stuff at the end. I don't remember it all, but there are something like four things here, including some sort of bit map. It seems to be about at least part of how the file system keeps track of allocated and unallocated blocks. I've already turned off background_fsck, but it seems to do a fast fsck anyway. Right now, at least, that seems undesirable. Is there a way to force it to be more thorough? Thanks! >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6qSCAAoJEBV64x4SNmArmGcP/R9UlkrNhMBRXy+/i5gkH+JV mdI0uIY5EQLNiVjbrsDu5hXvrE+dv5rJ6lSQUseiOxOUR2LYWZZp+Q0R3/cDF3WN DtEJR2yH6vR4b/odQCQJH0sAELOnx0/N0OJwy1Oj/cuuQWVhi39SZkA334J+W4fm /zqHwc037vm/acaaozxFBzOx1c8TqavB2+XOwLwNYfh+2cnXy1uWoulrvAU6Ue4O pdYFG2NEy61B+pb2HlShBabsFINwygziK+5nIUCzERpu0Vh+gfjjLpfTsxfjRyYe 4YRXkRPlrpfEzPE/E808S2oUfBVS4Zy2QNoIO8Uotmv/gHW6ZhJushhS5K8BZJ3V QE83u1qIdbiIpTl27PZFm0Fm7/SZCPEZyvnpDq2UdfUcfidLPiW061k+DCQwXuCr w93Q4pFOiNXtTGfBOGy/w1fmSmf2L7+TYtY1iCB6ynPKn3SaNhc39j4VbMV1J+nX a+IFgBvFctDIEnFVeB7/S3wbxM3lqfm52dcHoFrY94QmhVxr370f1Hs3JgVZQWhg B+dRrhe7lZpUM1y1bYKG3LhfxKbcPQ3TMf3mz/IfomJ+dhGGUgVEsCiee9HNbMHW l+tAhn8qS9i1fOQ31w1oxhjosqPw77dieRm2V4sntMWJuHmkzIwulQkEJOXWzYHF 5ldSiSJM/QSj8UDuaWt5 =pTuV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 12 23:43:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0D3F991 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A895A278A for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4F3598DE21; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 22C37598DABF; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:43:21 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:43:22 -0000 --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 07:31:41AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > No, Scroll Lock is a fully normal key that does what is > printed on the keycap. Why so surprised? ;-) >=20 Because when I hit the up arrow key in my shell, it understands this as recalling (successively) previous command(s) in my shell history. I guess the difference here must be that I normally use zsh rather than sh? >=20 > > Wouldn't the copy and paste operation require moused? I have an issue > > here because I haven't figured out how to get moused to recognize my > > USB mouse (which is strange: it does this just fine on my notebook). >=20 > Yes, moused would need to be enabled, so the console can > provide mouse support. It's quite handy for transfering > text from one virtual terminal to another. By the way, > left-doubleclick selects words, left-tripleclick selects > the whole line, and left-click selects start + right-click > selects end of a region. It works with _any_ program. >=20 Cool, but for some reason it was refusing to recognize /dev/ums0, even though the device was present on the system. I looked around for configuration bits, but didn't find any. Unless somebody sends me an old serial mouse, the only type of mouse that will ever be plugged into this system will be USB. This system doesn't even have connectors for the mouse and keyboard connectors that were common 15 years ago (and I don't have any of those mice laying around either). For what it's worth, the hald/ubus conglomeration *does* recognize the mouse. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6qaYAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr3q8QALRY2LdEbr3exQ6lQZ45q4/9 h2hoyy455/uRj4cu+TAwpV8OojerUN+bAXtyAngY2zYn5/xdxJuLP3l+hGPs7Zl5 GeNfuzMNMBlkghVe+RLh7JdQ8i/eTGkeqiDekUgpLrkWx3XctjdywdBv9gqUi3oY u1NKTJHxLrrSTb0kA72gS4ZT6rPGOFcjr87j2mGsT3vQtsapG+Bd+9i8ed9uoMHz Cg6UToP2ZXaHriIIDyXEqemotNSSwmb99rRjd3HkypRzPdn38c4yW36YA/8bjoUd anrVrf8T+3h5LLpBKp9vtcxPyDg/y/viAdYMMwdoHzQyH9mxj6voQ37LDi3dTd2c R3yhOF02mhOtBuMZ96q088J1fbS3veADXlL1Ax0MU1cBslPMqpOCJ1boL8khyAIi j9F++BbjoKkKy8h9g9QpxZAXhW2hVptyrIjY/LTCOu3pnHqaLW5E+50VdTvZ1J9q PXbhlSkVSAXS3jbCKilE9crEkmVRr9lbC7s1xPLinOWxlEDf0y4KUnC8c/C9mpn1 R0/Kd11QUdIx+01gqTJhwb3suKABIuQjhwp19xri8qb3PtNvdEzr3SwMdPubq6yc qz3Awp+vfroHGAZQRWf4vDb/gkfiVSoxop5L/aLxfxBWqLUcm7oInfSVnI4qF2mH hQgAcfRtfEv8W+nn1mZk =2tvN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 00:16:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FB23282 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMAIL5.netenterprise.net (imail5.netenterprise.net [64.29.90.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6342A74 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ponolei.intra.net [72.235.61.32] by IMAIL5.netenterprise.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id 350400065857e900; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:16:11 -1000 Message-ID: <53EAAE45.7000005@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:16:05 -1000 From: al plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:16:20 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 07:31:41AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >> No, Scroll Lock is a fully normal key that does what is >> printed on the keycap. Why so surprised? ;-) >> >> > Because when I hit the up arrow key in my shell, it understands this > as recalling (successively) previous command(s) in my shell history. > > I guess the difference here must be that I normally use zsh rather > than sh? > >>> Wouldn't the copy and paste operation require moused? I have an issue >>> here because I haven't figured out how to get moused to recognize my >>> USB mouse (which is strange: it does this just fine on my notebook). >>> >> Yes, moused would need to be enabled, so the console can >> provide mouse support. It's quite handy for transfering >> text from one virtual terminal to another. By the way, >> left-doubleclick selects words, left-tripleclick selects >> the whole line, and left-click selects start + right-click >> selects end of a region. It works with _any_ program. >> >> > Cool, but for some reason it was refusing to recognize /dev/ums0, even > though the device was present on the system. I looked around for > configuration bits, but didn't find any. Unless somebody sends me an > old serial mouse, the only type of mouse that will ever be plugged > into this system will be USB. This system doesn't even have connectors > for the mouse and keyboard connectors that were common 15 years ago > (and I don't have any of those mice laying around either). > > For what it's worth, the hald/ubus conglomeration *does* recognize the > mouse. > > Thanks! Aloha , > Check with Logitech on line for strange mice. I got a bunch of adapters from them that I use if I get an old box that needs serial or whatever mice. I think some other new mice with work with the adapters as well. Wireless may work for you too. > ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email: noc@hdk5.net email: alplant.att.net ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 00:44:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A14469AD for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CD922DC8 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7D0iKj7068230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:44:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7D0iK1K068227; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:44:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:44:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file In-Reply-To: <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: References: <20140810070239.GA80734@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140810103119.GA26958@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:44:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:44:26 -0000 On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, David Benfell wrote: > > Wouldn't the copy and paste operation require moused? I have an issue > here because I haven't figured out how to get moused to recognize my > USB mouse (which is strange: it does this just fine on my notebook). If you are using vt(4), the mouse pointer does not appear if hw.vga.textmode=1 is set in /boot/loader.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 01:18:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30A8F3A3 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E30421C7 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C7E598DE21; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A4349598DABF; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:18:49 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Warren Block Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:18:52 -0000 --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 06:44:20PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, David Benfell wrote: > > > > Wouldn't the copy and paste operation require moused? I have an issue > > here because I haven't figured out how to get moused to recognize my > > USB mouse (which is strange: it does this just fine on my notebook). >=20 > If you are using vt(4), the mouse pointer does not appear if > hw.vga.textmode=3D1 is set in /boot/loader.conf. I am. And I do indeed have this option set. vt was my reason for installing STABLE rather than RELEASE. But actually, this may be simpler than that. It *finally* occurred to me to look in the rc.conf man page for moused options. I now have: moused_enable=3D"YES" moused_nondefault_enable=3D"YES" moused_type=3D"AUTO" But I don't currently have a mouse plugged into the system to test it with. It looks like the moused_type option requires the mouse to be plugged in, whereas supposedly the moused_nondefault_enable option allows moused to recognize the mouse when it is plugged in. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6rz5AAoJEBV64x4SNmAr7F0P/32OFfSoalPRTTwbwtg2/xEN 1MUDSYEuYoskirARiFDa3IHiHSjfB01DevOXt/KaUqik+c2/XWgFdpcTcpiMKZi9 dyCnQJ1m/8F+GJouDmegUaP50Og6kdjfpLHi6kFrjy0IwIs8cS2zJFzm1SY2VeN0 A5NKj0OAK1nrxk5X9C7qPYalj5z+uaP8svGTns/VuYToU9NejqgfvwazvFT04vH1 /u41dNcyWphKgUd+GSqFBbXMZ1lkmj/HxRJWNdoYDNNVmNV9D3U6UeLtNvHzPvEj pIu1YSEY6Xcgh7Zqy06pfWmuFSt40rYPj5C7rNKp3MaxXRyv/1sk2hXoEWfsROvT s+w1RA6FHxArtDBrigrvgdyqi7G8Aregc9+S1CDaUZPTP6ivgtlgtkN7r02RjEi7 hz/Bj1mpHwOSRa2kZtJqUUNMFUvZt8eRugPXRt4SA4zfE9Hkky1DnSY5Saas65sk XFQdbv2KVgPjGxiji4EOZI4Bju6Wi0z8hTJ0BxND8o8WVTZWCaW9tX18fDY40sIW qWJa6e3qne1VX2uK9Tm9EgcC+hqHpHBd6sWsWOARkzXIL0Gi4MFCp6ShXcO5jsEl 9mXR33SBQkgrbq4UhU2ZdieZ44EDKFiKDQm0Ase5PzFvFT1Y1xhpHIbcXCSm6ygI 4Wvh46P5eQKiIgg/J0zq =pZoL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 04:51:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47CB07FA for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 04:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFDAD2862 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 04:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7D4pO26029315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:51:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7D4pNbc029312; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:51:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:51:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file In-Reply-To: <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:51:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 04:51:36 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, David Benfell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 06:44:20PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, David Benfell wrote: >>> >>> Wouldn't the copy and paste operation require moused? I have an issue >>> here because I haven't figured out how to get moused to recognize my >>> USB mouse (which is strange: it does this just fine on my notebook). >> >> If you are using vt(4), the mouse pointer does not appear if >> hw.vga.textmode=1 is set in /boot/loader.conf. > > I am. And I do indeed have this option set. vt was my reason for > installing STABLE rather than RELEASE. > > But actually, this may be simpler than that. It *finally* occurred to > me to look in the rc.conf man page for moused options. I now have: > > moused_enable="YES" > moused_nondefault_enable="YES" > moused_type="AUTO" > > But I don't currently have a mouse plugged into the system to test it > with. It looks like the moused_type option requires the mouse to be > plugged in, whereas supposedly the moused_nondefault_enable option > allows moused to recognize the mouse when it is plugged in. For USB mice, it is not necessary to set any options. moused_nondefault_enable="YES" is the default. I'd noticed some strange behavior on a system with that textmode option set, and just tracked it down today. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 07:24:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566BA9E2 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zcsg-mailou13.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (dish-sg.nttdocomo.co.jp [202.19.227.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2046A2C8F for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zcsg-mailmd14.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (zcsg-mailmd10.is.nttdocomo.co.jp [10.160.124.159]) by zcsg-mailou13.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57F5148006 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:21:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from zcsg-mailmf11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (zcsg-mailmf10.is.nttdocomo.co.jp [10.160.124.165]) by zcsg-mailmd14.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (NTT DoCoMo Mail System) with ESMTP id <0NA800HREHRUM180@NTTDoCoMo.co.jp>; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:21:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from zcsg-mailua12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (zcsg-mailua10.is.nttdocomo.co.jp [10.160.124.163]) by zcsg-mailmf11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6280118007; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:21:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from ATRDCENTER0069 (atrdcenter-0069.docomo.docomogr.net [10.18.28.51]) by zcsg-mailua12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (NTT DoCoMo Mail System) with ESMTPA id <0NA8005ERHRSK8J0@NTTDoCoMo.co.jp>; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:21:28 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:21:28 +0900 From: "WAKABAYASHI, Nobutaka" Subject: pkg repo ignores tgz? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <013101cfb6c7$32eaf5c0$98c0e140$@nttdocomo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: ja Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thread-index: Ac+2xewrnpwf7QJrSHO/dK8Pl2sq8g== X-TM-AS-MML: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:24:42 -0000 After upgrading pkg from 1.2.x to 1.3.x, pkg repo ignores tgz-ipped packages. Is this what pkg meant to do? $ sudo pkg create -f tgz sl-5.01 Creating package for sl-5.01 $ ls sl-5.01.tgz $ $ pkg repo . pkg: No package files have been found Cannot create repository catalogue $ sudo pkg create -f txz sl-5.01 Creating package for sl-5.01 $ pkg repo . Creating repository in .: 100% Packing files for repository: 100% $ $ pkg -v 1.3.6 $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 07:59:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D0B131D for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E7BF205A for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDE782774A; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:59:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7D7xnwE001952; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:59:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:59:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... Message-Id: <20140813095949.da89c889.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EA7510.6020109@hiwaay.net> References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> <7A2FA757-C28D-4441-9E00-F745468EBF96@kraus-haus.org> <53EA3BCC.9010403@hiwaay.net> <53EA7510.6020109@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:59:59 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:12:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Good call, old box used .../Mail/mail.hiwaay.net, new one uses > .../Mail/pop3.hiwaay.net .... I just got everything copied & it looks > good .... This may be a change on the side of hiwaay.net (mailer DNS entry). Thunderbird usually tries to determine what names are associated to the mail services' servers, and many providers did things like obsolete "pop" or "pop3" in favour of "mail", whereas "imap" usually has been kept. Sometimes, "smtp"'s functionality also has moved to "mail", so both for sending (SMTP) and receiving (POP3) the same "prefix" can be used. That should not be a problem (except it is reflected in the mailbox subtree naming). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 08:17:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EEA5727 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 054CE221D for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A294A24AEC; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7D8HDmn002005; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:17:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:17:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140813101713.9fd24296.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140812233426.GA25757@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812022709.GA84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812072832.da0166dc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812233426.GA25757@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:17:16 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:34:26 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 07:28:32AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > The text is kept in the console buffer until reboot. Of > > course saving something to /tmp when you have enabled > > a cleanup for /tmp isn't optimum. In this case, choices > > like /root/fsck.txt or even /fsck.txt (for temporary > > storage) would have been okay. > > > I'm learning more about this. Most of my experience is with Linux so > this is where my assumptions come from. First, I didn't know that > scroll lock was the secret to being able to scroll back in these text > mode terminals; Read. The. Key. Captions. :-) > second, I didn't know that the arrow keys were then > the appropriate means for doing so; And the page scroll keys (Page Up, Page Down) also work. Even Home (go to last line recorded) and End (go to first line recorded - note "reverse" orientation) can be used. > and third, I assumed you had to > reboot after playing in single-user mode. This usually is not needed, but of course it deletes the content of the console buffer. After being one in single user mode, typically do this: # mount -a # exit This will mount all file systems according to /etc/fstab and then leave the emergency shell, continuing (!) the normal boot process into multi user mode. > > For the next time: You can use mdconfig to temporarily > > allocate a RAM disk, then use script to record the whole > > console session (including fsck output), afterwards run > > "mount -a" and copy the log fron the RAM disk to a more > > permanent place. Just in case. > > This may well be coming. I had roughly 48 good hours. Now, it's > crashing again. I suppose I can't be surprised if the remaining memory > card has now gone bad (the vendor is sending me replacements for both, > despite my saying only one had gone bad). Check the replacements upon arrival, just to be sure. Sidenote: I also had problems with a chunk of RAM many years ago, bought at the local shop. During compiling, at some point I got a "file not found" error for /uss/src/usr.bin/bla/something. See? /uss, not /usr! After examining the RAM with a memtest CD, I found two "defective bits", and 'r' and 's' only differ by that bit. I made a hardcopy of the memtest screen and took this to the shop. They immediately replaced the RAM, and the computer would never complain again. :-) > I realized I had a 32GB partition available for use as a swap > partition. I had deviated from the default installation by allocating > an EFI partition. It's manifestly clear that this is not needed. And > it's more than large enough (actually about twice the needed size) for > a complete memory dump (I'm presently running on 8GB, but the > specification is for 16GB). I've gone in with gdisk and changed that > partition's type, so hopefully the next time, I'll actually get a > dump. > > Not that I've figured out what to do with one once I have it. Just keep in mind you have it. You never know. And having swap is better than _not_ having swap, no matter how much RAM you have. Just open a web browser, open some tabs with "Flash" crap in it, and you'll see how far you get with lousy 8 GB RAM. :-) > Having changed that file sytem type, it wanted me to reboot. So I did, > and while doing so, went into single user mode to do fsck -fy. The > first pass was not clean; but all the messages were about stuff at the > end. I don't remember it all, but there are something like four things > here, including some sort of bit map. It seems to be about at least > part of how the file system keeps track of allocated and unallocated > blocks. In most cases, different kinds of errors appear during one fsck run (related to different aspects of the file system internals). > I've already turned off background_fsck, but it seems to do a fast > fsck anyway. That is correct and intended. A short file system check is _always_ performed, it's a "preen", where minor defects can be repaired without interaction. A full fsck run can eliminate all problems, but in hard cases, it requires user interaction for human decisions, because -y isn't _always_ what you want. See /etc/rc.d/fsck for what happens at boot related to fsck. See "man fsck" for more descriptions about the mentioned "modes". > Right now, at least, that seems undesirable. Is there a > way to force it to be more thorough? Not needed. If there _really_ is something wrong with the file system, first a "preen" run will be done anyway. If that fails, which implies there are some significant inconsistencies, a normal fsck will be performed in the foreground as intended. If it succeeds, booting will continue. If major defects appear, the user will be prompted to re-run fsck until the file systems can be marked "clean". Only if _this_ requirement is met, the normal boot process can continue! Again, this is intended. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 08:25:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1C3FC16 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FFDE2407 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C556F2763F; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:25:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7D8PEGL002041; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:25:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:25:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140813102514.d4026945.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:25:16 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:43:21 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 07:31:41AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > No, Scroll Lock is a fully normal key that does what is > > printed on the keycap. Why so surprised? ;-) > > > Because when I hit the up arrow key in my shell, it understands this > as recalling (successively) previous command(s) in my shell history. Correct, that is what the C shell does in normal (scrolling) mode. In Scroll Lock mode, inputs can be made, but they will not appear on screen immediately, because it is _locked_. The arrow keys will move that buffer. > I guess the difference here must be that I normally use zsh rather > than sh? No, zsh behaves the same, as bash also does. Inside X terminals, you use Shift + Page Up/Down for the scroll buffer, but in the "lower levels" of the text mode console, Scroll Lock is used for that feature. This is independent from the shell you are using. > Cool, but for some reason it was refusing to recognize /dev/ums0, even > though the device was present on the system. I looked around for > configuration bits, but didn't find any. Have a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf, where moused configuration templates can be found: moused_nondefault_enable="YES" # Treat non-default mice as enabled unless # specifically overriden in rc.conf(5). moused_enable="NO" # Run the mouse daemon. moused_type="auto" # See man page for rc.conf(5) for available settings. moused_port="/dev/psm0" # Set to your mouse port. moused_flags="" # Any additional flags to moused. mousechar_start="NO" # if 0xd0-0xd3 default range is occupied in your # language code table, specify alternative range # start like mousechar_start=3, see vidcontrol(1) allscreens_flags="" # Set this vidcontrol mode for all virtual screens allscreens_kbdflags="" # Set this kbdcontrol mode for all virtual screens However, for a USB mouse it shouldn't be neccessary to start moused, because that's what devfs / devd does when encountering a USB mouse device (ums). > Unless somebody sends me an > old serial mouse, the only type of mouse that will ever be plugged > into this system will be USB. Your system seems to be new. Where do you want to plug the serial mouse into? I assume you don't have a 9 pin serial connector anymore. Sometimes, there's still a pair of PS/2 connectors, and a PS/2 mouse can be used. However, if you should accidentally find a 25 pin serial connector on your PC, I have a Genius mouse here (working!) which will fit. With branded "mouse holder"! ;-) > This system doesn't even have connectors > for the mouse and keyboard connectors that were common 15 years ago > (and I don't have any of those mice laying around either). No PS/2 anymore? How time flies... :-) > For what it's worth, the hald/ubus conglomeration *does* recognize the > mouse. Yes, but that's restricted to X. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 08:31:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 234C3D62 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D514B24C4 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C3962763F; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7D8VdOJ002058; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:31:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:31:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140813103139.ec75155d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:31:41 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:18:49 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > But actually, this may be simpler than that. It *finally* occurred to > me to look in the rc.conf man page for moused options. I now have: > > moused_enable="YES" > moused_nondefault_enable="YES" > moused_type="AUTO" As I said, for USB mice this shouldn't be needed. > But I don't currently have a mouse plugged into the system to test it > with. It looks like the moused_type option requires the mouse to be > plugged in, whereas supposedly the moused_nondefault_enable option > allows moused to recognize the mouse when it is plugged in. You can use "moused -d -f " for testing. Basically, you need to specify _type for non-"normal" mice, and maybe even _flags to make them work as intended. Here's an example: moused_enable="YES" moused_port="/dev/cuaa0" moused_type="mousesystems" moused_flags="-r 300 -a 2.0 -z 4" Is is for a "MouseSystems" serial mouse with the additional feature of emulating the wheel with the middle mouse button. Nothing of this "strange stuff" should be needed for USB mice, as they are typically detected and configured automatically by devd or devfs, which invokes moused with the required options (if any). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 09:42:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8856FB74 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F2742B87 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A270B598CDE2; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84675598CDC8; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:42:10 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140813094210.GA5311@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813102514.d4026945.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140813102514.d4026945.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:42:12 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:25:14AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:43:21 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 07:31:41AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: (Thanks for all of the above, snipped) >=20 > Your system seems to be new. Where do you want to plug the serial > mouse into? I assume you don't have a 9 pin serial connector > anymore. Sometimes, there's still a pair of PS/2 connectors, > and a PS/2 mouse can be used. Actually, much to my surprise, there's a serial connection on the back of the thing. But no, no PS/2 connectors. Ane yes, it is very new. (I just don't remember ever having a shakedown like this.) >=20 > However, if you should accidentally find a 25 pin serial connector > on your PC, I have a Genius mouse here (working!) which will fit. > With branded "mouse holder"! ;-) No, it's a nine-pin. I remember the 25-pin connectors from my DEC PDP-11 days when there weren't any mice and there was no graphical display. And as I recall, they were labeled RS232C then, even if DEC only used three of the pins. But having been in and out of technology a couple times since then, I never saw a 25-pin mouse connector. Wow! >=20 > > This system doesn't even have connectors > > for the mouse and keyboard connectors that were common 15 years ago > > (and I don't have any of those mice laying around either). >=20 > No PS/2 anymore? How time flies... :-) >=20 Actually haven't seen a PS/2 connector for a while. Given the latest hullabaloo about USB security issues, I wonder if they'll make a comeback. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6zLyAAoJEBV64x4SNmArLK4P/3kv15GpOlWhOEbBP7dQn05o AyrysYWHuppJau648qV5L+cwlMiqSXtcFNRc2tH6//hRn46mwwGk39yKZFLsPAOe xBU2CPT3lqXXp3+Eg9NfPz2UBMsQ4p6/NZSG7BM49daG0CzbLjjCo3qgPDTmRJ+y IvXopiwRGW21WGdLP/PNOso8MxBKQJW84NLDCHuLqeGQqm3TLX2zvjAhoPPHIbSb 7EBPGJkkzQhgFytuePyUQS7hxqn9deENcjC5qJWP5CxzZE8y6o8kkaNalF0ifmRH x+/5qghvJBdndt8jPm8agMEwEpPcbJtXZifBwnK8RO8WRD11TEUre3UQjZuW3v8r 6twOE2BBdaCVuECEqRi90inTAR0eZSq2U8oZjsroT+c33FdQ/e4bRLfgmvYmu0i1 Ok2rvONYI2XJsDexqNF9Wu/ktP1MAijagSAlYkqWLqnRnr7mtKVU/TSMu7MBJ+zO ULJB3fsRLXsYxiD48MXc9Avq5Vtibh3l8l6K+VwWnc5KIr/1n/Tnr3SP8IGlrEZi JKTH9ivxtTZn2J7Jv9G+95zSjsY9OfiFrD38mlS2W+jh9DDktNu77Q1hBq/vbM+9 XqlfYkjkAyjsbAwad5BDC3E3b+3yH9EUMcBT1BMY1yjfOV7mtL9nqP/JMjppXaeB iyCgZj4ONk10uzdoWU/n =+nGQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 10:01:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6EAA35A for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B56E82E28 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C453598CDE2; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 21AA4598CDC8; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:01:39 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Kensington Mouse, was Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140813100139.GB5311@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813103139.ec75155d.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140813103139.ec75155d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:01:40 -0000 --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:31:39AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > Nothing of this "strange stuff" should be needed for USB mice, > as they are typically detected and configured automatically > by devd or devfs, which invokes moused with the required options > (if any). >=20 Okay, so this gets weirder. I unplugged the mouse--a Kensington trackball--from my notebook and plugged it into the server. It still took a couple tries to get moused to run. For one thing 'auto' for moused_type really does need to be in lower case; it won't recognize 'AUTO'. The other thing is I had to specify moused_port. But by the time I got into X, the mouse was unresponsive. I unplugged it and plugged it back into my notebook. Now my notebook won't recognize it. Even with a restart of moused (which has helped with touchpad glitches). I plugged it into my Windows laptop (I'm working on a dissertation proposal at the moment and they require MS-Word formatting that can't be replicated with LibreOffice), and it recognized it fine. Could it be that my favorite trackball doesn't get along with FreeBSD so well? --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6zeDAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr3dMP+wU1KtiXLmp+IFP1NE8p4vCZ MPufQtqlKHgFzbSx+09tLDfkReqRBK5kvHqXHhP1CFRn9mY06BL9bM7Qm2CXZ7tc Iyz4waOXFLAalgdRhNs2QGyJpGP/7DIRNBO4w13ApfaiO53Ku5iOGxsSYRVwJISD 5YBPUyRCSPVdM1cVWSP/EwYXmfOQnRzwFA3vjHMwNDdxbhcL7lQYsJhONFbcKtNv QhtQwqImFAffLvQ4UA8JAMFIL67UzCWOyzh95ReFLPefgU97u5QXJAvAaU1Zm3nk mDpTQoafCUBGA345bwMJ5lndUKarS7GvcvP315ZHB6cK82RnjR79WI4GMxP67LpP UFx4Q0s0aTfy5fHWtmmnjActLrj0nXP1bixfqV3kE8IJW0ECp30D6ArKR7ALn1fP umw1t24ClWWRsUPnSCIZxN9YGVREK+8pGwIlo3CE64yKu7zVI530+761+T9zpXj4 D2sD7NeJLvMNBlXFhtt88M7tzJr9XGv5o63W+FDAVDwMA7eV2o32wqcpVGAoPeHb 1HrXVKQXWXTxx+EDJfEJGpSx6vxDMmwrQ+2F9IyfW1a19zm+jgnXcOyW+0Sm5qw0 a/DkyMXs9tSnlzfjGnYup7h0UqLQHJWLllxdLFnWt10EY5Icgq7Rw5i8tSPOWGnO B4gZEJksLtkODXif6ekm =/KgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 10:05:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E639744C for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3FD12E53 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D66BB27759; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7DA5I47002523; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:05:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:05:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140813120518.73207066.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140813094210.GA5311@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813102514.d4026945.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140813094210.GA5311@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:05:23 -0000 On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:42:10 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > Actually haven't seen a PS/2 connector for a while. Given the latest > hullabaloo about USB security issues, I wonder if they'll make a > comeback. Probably not, because the worst, most insecure and mechanically problematic technology usually prevails. Regarding USB security, you're probably talking about this? http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/this-thumbdrive-hacks-computers-badusb-exploit-makes-devices-turn-evil/ https://srlabs.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/SRLabs-BadUSB-BlackHat-v1.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuruzFqMgIw I've even seen it being demonstrated on TV. On TV! On _german_ TV! I had already been reading about this interesting attack vector, but I didn't assume it was that "easy"... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 10:14:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71EF363D for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F1B2201A for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54B192775A; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:14:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7DAEKZV002564; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:14:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:14:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: Kensington Mouse, was Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-Id: <20140813121420.2769b8ad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140813100139.GB5311@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813103139.ec75155d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140813100139.GB5311@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:14:22 -0000 On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:01:39 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > I unplugged the mouse--a Kensington trackball--from my notebook and > plugged it into the server. It still took a couple tries to get moused > to run. For one thing 'auto' for moused_type really does need to be in > lower case; it won't recognize 'AUTO'. This is correct; "man moused" states: -t type Specify the protocol type of the mouse attached to the port. You may explicitly specify a type listed below, or use auto to let the moused utility automatically select an appropriate protocol for the given mouse. If you entirely omit this option in the command line, -t auto is assumed. So it can be omitted. > The other thing is I had to > specify moused_port. That would probably be /dev/ums0. > But by the time I got into X, the mouse was unresponsive. This is to be expected, because it now interferes with HAL. The autodetection magic doesn't work anymore. > Could it be that my favorite trackball doesn't get along with FreeBSD > so well? That is possible. Some _few_ mice and trackballs don't play nice with the protocol standards. On "Windows", the manufacturer usually provides a proprietary driver that gets you around the issues and therefore "just works" - implementing all the non-standard things. On FreeBSD, the system assumes that _if_ the device identifies itself as a mouse, _then_ it has to understand the corresponding protocol. If it doesn't... well... no soup for you. ;-) In case you want to check with moused, use it in non-daemon mode and have it output diagnostic messages: # moused -f -d -t auto -p /dev/ums0 You can also try to get information with # moused -p /dev/ums0 -i all while moused is _not_ running. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 10:33:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8294B80 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7710224F for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA31D598CDE2; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7CC52598CDC8; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:33:57 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140813103357.GA20454@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813102514.d4026945.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140813094210.GA5311@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813120518.73207066.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140813120518.73207066.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:33:58 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:05:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:42:10 -0700, David Benfell wrote: >=20 > I've even seen it being demonstrated on TV. On TV! On _german_ TV! >=20 > I had already been reading about this interesting attack vector, > but I didn't assume it was that "easy"... >=20 Given the NSA revelations, it's even scarier than that. You now have to even question your supply chain for equipment. Conceivably, you could receive a device you just purchased brand new, already infected. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6z8UAAoJEBV64x4SNmArAPIP/Ri/RxV53ZSqnJ+wFNd8/NMQ 72vyqbHQpPzhBmXd1pw+6ScLpu+X7LXmIShKGJMyeRWXXLA2qNvr/yFGvxQpVV+U H4owBRx1PD4jjWyFAn4l6Qu5XV2wlFZwg5CfjiT2pTW2ipFG6b6PcjhQGah8m5Ut RcM/4fUUuaApSZF+KEpDBEY07f/9/uAb3ixqxQjsIcYhfFY483+FZSBGAo9kKq+i 89y5xL1UInrmut0/xiKn+6TonTRL+dGJlWIYYm85EDGiJw6f/hgrDZxZYFW/IdT9 Bn3ZqtBeMsmg8CwhCGdmYQug7gLjzp9NtRe9CWxttsRz44A6MRRirfe86VFbsyfb QLIwBRpoh/ljDFjrBpgXS2k68OJZNRpWNgj6eYqoxYBJdzeF5Mv/WCr0VaYlAKmg cY2oCFSPNMSbIrYUUGisuPFNp27Njk5iE/8R58QGpFPHL+fIsOkoU3m5O+KWbbsn DrLzcD3HnTQNPTCM+ljJXbTTDrDGQTInTXVQ3T5IXSVZng4llw+Ey4quIhm/ABpX kcxBbP+yJkug431unV+gghLVmZSETaK0vMW+Z/yMHJODHBTMGm9Sab4cpOxCdvGE pCtL6x7XqG4HWreFWLkyPj/seCWP1ISUgYOaJoE1/SM/Tryvpgq2BVDxDU0/yAb+ X4YNa9mdZwUsS8m9EJgV =sr2W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 10:45:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F01D31E7 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE0C02462 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F59F598CDE2; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3127C598CDC8; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:45:13 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Kensington Mouse, was Re: operation not permitted on entropy file Message-ID: <20140813104513.GB20454@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813011849.GC25757@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813103139.ec75155d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140813100139.GB5311@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813121420.2769b8ad.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140813121420.2769b8ad.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:45:16 -0000 --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:14:20PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 03:01:39 -0700, David Benfell wrote: >=20 It's working again on the notebook. I wound up rebooting the notebook anyway, but it worked on a second plugin before the reboot. > In case you want to check with moused, use it in non-daemon mode > and have it output diagnostic messages: >=20 > # moused -f -d -t auto -p /dev/ums0 Not that I *really* know how to interpret what I'm seeing, but it looked sorta kinda reasonable. Mouse clicks were obviously interpreted correctly. When I moved the mouse, something that looked like it might be coordinates changed. >=20 > You can also try to get information with >=20 > # moused -p /dev/ums0 -i all This yielded '/dev/ums0 usb sysmouse generic' >=20 > while moused is _not_ running. >=20 Something is different between the notebook and the server. One thing is that I adopted the hald/dbus-free Xorg configuration suggested for my hypersensitive touchpad problems. So I suppose it could be that hald doesn't handle the mouse properly. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT60G5AAoJEBV64x4SNmArE7QQAJmsAidQQgtQbfHDAalGU4Me BBqpY+EJIY3PdLhUuNuTpTYQ66qOOwk68SbqanvlKedLJWpZq3a02dMve6QbktVH yO+1S1LqZ6+h8OWqhBMC8qmzNbgj5C8SZVaLYxzisPvWL6+CujfKZBLmTPdbt1KJ EUOHSd8Xzd403CQpz3f9RU1P7ROcriik/Wb8uLKAANOk2uohMT5CwMDwTb7a1TJ9 kl7KalYx7CMPNwfMoe+/Xy7aVRyJqK+TAPC83xE6gSFNRLL8c2XCw1QCrwwdYdfd 6Vsz6izKlXB4PdLPHA6RlEPGC8TkG0xEm+WjGlDAxDxZOEl4ozivYtqQ6XnTDoQU M8aKmYb4uthMTOdG+Sj17Wg2sdw5mMqBrc4UzsnJqD8i44Bg0U0ntkUVhPNHwHt1 Y5m7XRjcdczAtEMsbFpCfsxsaG0RINNWjcnbqqnTM5gV6WYBkHMbEH7wk4Dff7e3 poDvQjz94rh/e+TFAdS4NBQoLEYQJCUO3xtN3Fm7S85OxcYT/oYtcib3g57zY2DV X+cVq8Tc9Kqorbwee4f63hTaYwH7tI9cSED3WrhsHzEOed0kRQMF/G3rUHHNgyeg FZGxTHCeF4Ck8ztKnZockSZr1wCMdYUrIFUyP6jp+VlFgFGH2gxrmAQskjQxSfNj 0QrMiUiPgF3hwAJQabnc =wtIP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 11:58:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C74A8EA8 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x250.google.com (mail-oi0-x250.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94D8F2C80 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f80.google.com with SMTP id a141so277070oig.7 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 04:58:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wCtancongCl8GeETxIaeGOqrCf9wLMU2MXaRLxKSzx8=; b=tt68soDK3/b5PfQG7JGBKOZviBkIpnH3qIdL9lqyAsIBLAuDlmVpUbWaBJHTuUgHCN OoM1/wyrYslzlmSkqxgJ1ZYfqRPolH9iGELNknaqjZgHAECGJ1AdUV3YcZxZD3S1Ob+i 0xjXkkyDKtR9XB67lFBIJMHxDO9lJKUCDaoofbiqnkj4WBobhohLgGzVwLUOQhxmlO66 NZ44R201ZMcDsgOUg5Y6Qare1gphfS7Qi/qOwDj7BXIlSD6815Wxm0eTchHW0E0r4PMz hDfY+QKEBCL2H5C0nbvbPpKlVJlBL3pWWCQTIvXlfqBmfw/cqi/UalB5KSbjiSVC4p0S NArA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.130.168 with SMTP id of8mr2215485obb.27.1407931113877; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 04:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <089e0122f6c8e93a820500818169@google.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:58:33 +0000 Subject: Increase Online Business: Hk4U.Com From: george forbes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:58:35 -0000 Hi Hk4U.Com Team, I am sure you would love to get enough search engine and social media traffic for your website *Hk4U.Com* We are here to help you out by adopting certain steps to rank well in Search Engines and increase your social media presence: 1. 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Once you reply us back, the next communication will be done from our corporate email ID.* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 12:12:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 094846BF; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "webmail2.dweimer.local", Issuer "webmail2.dweimer.local" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C15612E98; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s7DCChgO091671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:12:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:12:43 -0500 From: dweimer To: FreeBSD Questions Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?mod=5Fdav=5Fsvn-=31=2E=38=2E=31=30?= Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:12:47 -0000 On 08/12/2014 2:27 pm, dweimer wrote: > Anyone else unable to get mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 to install after the > update? > > Running on a 10.0-RELEASE-p7 system, it built without errors, but > failed during install: > > ===> Installing for mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 > ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found > ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: libapr-1.so - > found (/usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so.0.5.1) > ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: libsqlite3.so - > found (/usr/local/lib/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6) > ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: libexpat.so - > found (/usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6.0.0) > ===> mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 depends on shared library: > libsvn_client-1.so - found (/usr/local/lib/libsvn_client-1.so.0.0.0) > ===> Checking if mod_dav_svn already installed > ===> Registering installation for mod_dav_svn-1.8.10 > pkg-static: > lstat(/var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.so): > No such file or directory > *** Error code 74 > > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn hmm, apparently I had to stop the running apache24 service in order to build this, it died missing the mad_dav_svn during the HUP after the log rotate overnight. Even though there weren't any port updates to the apache or subversion ports, it built and installed fine this morning. Must have been holding something in memroy that was causing the build to not compile the mod_dontdothat part. This part wasn't in the dump of the build process I made yesterday, but was built today just prior to the compressing manual pages: if true ; then cd tools/server-side/mod_dontdothat ; /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel -d "/var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24" ; /usr/local/sbin/apxs -i -S LIBEXECDIR="/var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24" -n dontdothat mod_dontdothat.la ; fi /usr/local/share/apache24/build/instdso.sh SH_LIBTOOL='/usr/local/share/apr/build-1/libtool' mod_dontdothat.la /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24 /usr/local/share/apr/build-1/libtool --mode=install install mod_dontdothat.la /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/ libtool: install: install .libs/mod_dontdothat.so /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.so libtool: install: install .libs/mod_dontdothat.lai /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.la libtool: install: install .libs/mod_dontdothat.a /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.a libtool: install: chmod 644 /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.a libtool: install: ranlib /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.a libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish /usr/local/libexec/apache24' chmod 755 /var/ports/usr/ports/www/mod_dav_svn/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/apache24/mod_dontdothat.so -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 13:16:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A8335B0 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90A0A2677 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7DDGYNf001745; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:16:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53EB6532.7050707@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:16:34 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , David Benfell Subject: PS/2 connectors (Was: Re: operation not permitted on entropy file) References: <20140810124433.da498898.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140810224038.GD24036@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811101822.41851cc7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811142707.GA10186@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811171653.b7c60e58.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140811153535.GA30506@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140811183912.ef0f20a6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812023229.GB84770@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140812073141.217954e3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140812234321.GB25757@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140813102514.d4026945.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140813102514.d4026945.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:16:46 -0000 On 13/08/2014 09:25, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:43:21 -0700, David Benfell wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 07:31:41AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: [huge snip] >> This system doesn't even have connectors >> for the mouse and keyboard connectors that were common 15 years ago >> (and I don't have any of those mice laying around either). > > No PS/2 anymore? How time flies... :-) My latest box has an Asus Z97-A motherboard, i.e. a relatively new (Intel Z97 chipset, LGA 1150 socket) consumer one. It has exactly one PS/2 connector, which can be used for either keyboard or mouse. (To save anyone asking, no, it's not designed to work with a splitter cable.) This actually suits the way I work - I use PS/2 for the keyboard, to get unlimited rollover, and USB for the mouse, because the vast majority of mice are USB these days and I'm very picky about the ergonomics so won't/can't use just any old mouse. 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I am looking for some pointers on how to get it up and running. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/hv4J5OnTKDqr=VKn2g1Mu+6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT65AHAAoJEElTsHIJnX8eSI0H/RnXYnrBlJw6QTTXZBha+FgQ BdQKpi/69w3Rf+UAT5TcQPNNcwkgnGIzoPKZPQNoNe5n10i1KyM6ZemzkdZVHbJi 9gNf2rEl6F1fvy9m2gdYC7LgINjaH4OZBl5ph1oBjgoOSHkXmivJWh0nesXlzeeH DmTbOQaMIYqbfmf4QPZefK6XEOCeeiMOaXpBzRvePdXtVLngy0hfkXv/WpoAnSqN Aq5VBzDp/38hsFwDXRb9nCqmjA3U6wYmLKmGrk2b9amyj166hZZN00amJlSdQvSt udtWcNSHYO8OdYQn3WBQPuY5+FLFb8p+z6+ThkrIpcSuHjZIBT4OI04HAZBLB8I= =NjTs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/hv4J5OnTKDqr=VKn2g1Mu+6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 16:48:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8396C91 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co [190.109.177.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CFC2005 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3A64482A5 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:22:56 -0500 (COT) Received: from correo.edatel.com.co (unknown [10.4.1.75]) by edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF0D4482A4 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:22:56 -0500 (COT) Received: from [10.4.4.116] (10.4.4.116) by edatel-hbt-01 (10.4.1.77) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.348.2; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:23:54 -0500 Message-ID: <53EB913A.8020300@edatel.com.co> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:24:26 -0500 From: Marco Muskus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slapd-mdb - Memory-Mapped DB backend to slapd References: <20140813121912.60ff6c1f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20140813121912.60ff6c1f@scorpio> X-TM-AS-MML: disable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:48:10 -0000 El 13/08/14 a las #4, Jerry escribi=C3=B3: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:17:46 -0400 I was just wondering if anyone had tried or has openldap running with MDB o= n a FreeBSD machine. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 16:57:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60CC4347 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A828214D for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hYH0x6DHyzCy1l for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:48:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mcs.it Received: from baobab.bilink.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (baobab.mcs.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 11027) with ESMTP id Y78R7JiieHYt for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:48:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.mcs.it (hermes.mcs.it [192.168.132.21]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hYH0x3vTtzCy1h for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:48:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.44.6]) by hermes.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5C01B7443 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:48:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:48:33 +0200 From: Luciano Mannucci To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: NAT question X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3hYH0x3vTtzCy1h@baobab.bilink.it> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:57:27 -0000 Hello, I'm still migrating machines from linux to FreeBSD. I'm wondering if my translation from this iptables linux rule iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.7.234/32 -d 172.16.1.0/24 -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE (which means moreless if Mr 192.168.7.234 wherever he comes fom passes through our eth1 interface to go to 172.16.1 network should get our eth1 address instead of his) is moreless correctly translated in FreeBSD ipnat rules as map em0 192.168.7.234/32 -> 0/32 or I'm missing something? Cheers, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. 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I'm wondering if > my translation from this iptables linux rule > > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.7.234/32 -d 172.16.1.0/24 -o > eth1 -j > MASQUERADE > > (which means moreless if Mr 192.168.7.234 wherever he comes fom passes > through our eth1 interface to go to 172.16.1 network should get our > eth1 address instead of his) > > is moreless correctly translated in FreeBSD ipnat rules as > > map em0 192.168.7.234/32 -> 0/32 > > or I'm missing something? You might want to use a more integrated and supported FW such as IPFW or PF to do NAT. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 18:49:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AA23E5E for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x22c.google.com (mail-qg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED3F42E16 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e89so148122qgf.17 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:49:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=F9YIaG8MHo4bnvPZTD98voTfmpfsCalusyv80Ub7J2U=; b=F0DcNLwWk3Fzer6CgU1n8UMy5CQiWNkHWVxDq2j2s7XDCGxjdttYXT4YCFrSoL/dVZ Rw2+F016b2kjpJG5sq2ouMBs/Gn4bMYkM2HV5RZymWfjO1DDv+JDzVFR2YWkH/pdC0eY a7kxNmDejA6YFaFlWWMYkPvYaQQVVP2kTStQY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=F9YIaG8MHo4bnvPZTD98voTfmpfsCalusyv80Ub7J2U=; b=irhaxqkIEp8UCG+B6mPdiNQdISclpYwP/1UnCcZFbHDo5Hg5fE/APMa8+hQQRMzHFa H4+fa42Q2OH8lbcpp0ndA8yPJRHQ9EgirMSFv+zDRQqSQ05PDomvca6ArvvlcM7FMihK vRM2qsl383Y1k39XMgsaiiQaPl47xO+T63x4RlpfM7WvHqMBrVTEVdm0jPQf2MEk57Fi czus9jW6dFb6A94hhLu7EdJekNNuekpHDehTnsMWgeqi6TCE0wq4wamHUQoSuNX9c3Fz YAqDAADTFTvqzcrXRu3y1msyIAUOYEzq1MJpOsCm3GWgPE0B4qVgaGs+8nPglHgI7b9o Yyxg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkHwowztlGNPKm9NAf6Lwqy4Eiaq6/uuWINmRbK7GuHhEcViMgQT9CDWmySin8Mg/Wr0/R1 X-Received: by 10.224.28.133 with SMTP id m5mr9833041qac.16.1407955755834; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g1sm4611382qas.7.2014.08.13.11.49.14 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3hYKh96PtMz3DlTL for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:49:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:49:06 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slapd-mdb - Memory-Mapped DB backend to slapd Message-ID: <20140813144906.1424a08e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <53EB913A.8020300@edatel.com.co> References: <20140813121912.60ff6c1f@scorpio> <53EB913A.8020300@edatel.com.co> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/.IMFDCy+BjoJ7_5OqC/X2Yl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:49:17 -0000 --Sig_/.IMFDCy+BjoJ7_5OqC/X2Yl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:24:26 -0500, Marco Muskus stated: >El 13/08/14 a las #4, Jerry escribi=C3=B3: >> >>Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:17:46 -0400 >> >>I was just wondering if anyone had tried or has openldap running with MDB= on >>a FreeBSD machine. I am looking for some pointers on how to get it up and >>running. > >Hi, > >I'm running OpenLDAP with MDB backend with success. Try installing it from >the ports and select the MDB backend in the build options (configure). Apparently, the default config file has both BDB & MDB checked. I would therefore assume I have MDB compiled in. Do I now have to run "slapd-mdb" after the system starts to get it up and running? I already have the following in the rc.conf file: ## OPENLDAP slapd_enable=3D"YES" slapd_flags=3D'-h "ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fldapi/ ldap://0.0.0.0/= "' slapd_sockets=3D"/var/run/openldap/ldapi" Also, I am assuming that you replaced: "database bdb" with "database mdb" in the slapd.conf file. Did you need to make any other modifications? Thanks --=20 Jerry --Sig_/.IMFDCy+BjoJ7_5OqC/X2Yl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT67MpAAoJEElTsHIJnX8euWAIALfT3LCd5XKMzWP/QJdcuXYB Zz5NlElOCwBOG7ncf2NwiV57pHSjl/dmpLm9tvWyTfPmWkugLSM/UD+zX3olR34A xcp9JSGNF4i09dvpkJTa+LEShIHWmUY0RwdU0S8CI663fXUMeSVxq5KlGT1c0Elt NVV2jAFFVpsfio2/LX7aPmwJnx0eREe3qxmkP5G1HUhL/nvR5iKMzTBtL77KfgX2 vhvn9VO0UenjH/kFMgUtZSQNUzBIhtZZSs7s6Z4DpMYDj0luchIU5EadjL+S6y+i MYj7ZM+le7TkQK8Ry77eVE7E7s9tnel4gwyN0jIkI4qhs5Q7/M0v3GxVRB5H26I= =Kp5a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/.IMFDCy+BjoJ7_5OqC/X2Yl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 19:32:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC454DB2 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (tkt-001-i389.relay.mailchannels.net [72.249.144.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272C424AE for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:32:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.32.44 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (ip-10-204-4-183.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.204.4.183]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 62D8E6016D; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:14:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.32.44 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (mail-24.name-services.com [10.245.145.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.2.12); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:14:16 GMT X-MC-Relay: Forwarding X-MailChannels-SenderId: _forwarded-from|107.201.32.44 X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1407957256381 Received: from [10.0.10.1] (107-201-32-44.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net [107.201.32.44]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:14:10 -0700 Message-ID: <53EBB8FF.6040504@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:14:07 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: NAT question References: <3hYH0x3vTtzCy1h@baobab.bilink.it> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Luciano Mannucci X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:32:19 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Luciano Mannucci > wrote: > >> Hello, I'm still migrating machines from linux to FreeBSD. I'm wondering if >> my translation from this iptables linux rule >> >> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.7.234/32 -d 172.16.1.0/24 -o >> eth1 -j >> MASQUERADE >> >> (which means moreless if Mr 192.168.7.234 wherever he comes fom passes >> through our eth1 interface to go to 172.16.1 network should get our >> eth1 address instead of his) >> >> is moreless correctly translated in FreeBSD ipnat rules as >> >> map em0 192.168.7.234/32 -> 0/32 >> >> or I'm missing something? > > > You might want to use a more integrated and supported FW such as IPFW or PF > to do NAT. > > > Disregard that last post. ipfilter was updated to the current version 5 in RELEASE 10.0 and I think also for 9.3. Been using ipfilter since RELEASE 4.0 without any problems. Its rock hard and easy to use. map = The keyword map starts the rule. em0 = The interface name of the interface facing the public Internet. 192.168.7.234/32 = The IP address range of the private LAN. -> = Mandatory arrow symbol. 0.32 = The IP address/netmask assigned by your ISP. The special alias keyword 0.32 tells ipnat to get the current public IP address of the interface specified on this statement and substitute it for the 0.32 keyword. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 19:44:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A58237C for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x235.google.com (mail-pd0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5182025BF for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id g10so232685pdj.26 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=laF+mkIbKyPVFz0+ZoIFv2/urqgtVTLY/qb90Uqh8xw=; b=ZM5XCmGw5xMBtuOMxSGZmujWivAVYkYtNbPncL6jp23KhTk4YmD+aX7sGRhHO8ikhz Idj6A00IdaJQnNHiy4CBBz8XQtZox9UZKxOmvKDg6aSJrgtI1MHxbX/0aQC9cedbBlTu i0StrNu/s7KGaWXm967QguCEChUtE606hHCFK1nw+IOD3Vo9vtYia3ftqpyNmqYvbd3Z Ajpf+EQmt/4Lxesk76AatfY8t5JbatlU8PcQh1Q2h3J8qpHg+4woKKhJcTzYM48Jteov UUe8ays70uPay5QU1xfIzrLKwaaosC3HrByQf5YrkfQVYOupVC0AqchcAc7FBNN6ZRed HhnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.191.34 with SMTP id gv2mr5926236pbc.13.1407959088830; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.118.132 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EBB8FF.6040504@a1poweruser.com> References: <3hYH0x3vTtzCy1h@baobab.bilink.it> <53EBB8FF.6040504@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:44:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAT question From: Adam Vande More To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Luciano Mannucci X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:44:49 -0000 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Adam Vande More wrote: > >> >> You might want to use a more integrated and supported FW such as IPFW or >> PF >> to do NAT. >> >> >> >> Disregard that last post. > Yes, disregard the several times ipfilter has nearly gone extinct(at least in FreeBSD base), and hope very strongly it's maintainer doesn't lose interest, have a couple of kids, or get a more demanding job. Forget the the firewalls that are equally or even more capable and have a bigger dev team with long term interests in keeping them going. Keep your fingers crossed. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 19:45:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D16F40A for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co [190.109.177.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA57825CD for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6FB4482B9 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:43:44 -0500 (COT) Received: from correo.edatel.com.co (unknown [10.4.1.75]) by edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0E84482B7 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:43:44 -0500 (COT) Received: from [10.4.4.116] (10.4.4.116) by edatel-hbt-01 (10.4.1.77) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.348.2; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:44:42 -0500 Message-ID: <53EBC04A.4060504@edatel.com.co> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:45:14 -0500 From: Marco Muskus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slapd-mdb - Memory-Mapped DB backend to slapd References: <20140813121912.60ff6c1f@scorpio> <53EB913A.8020300@edatel.com.co> <20140813144906.1424a08e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20140813144906.1424a08e@scorpio> X-TM-AS-MML: disable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:45:17 -0000 El 13/08/14 a las #4, Jerry escribi=C3=B3: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:24:26 -0500, Marco Muskus stated: El 13/08/14 a las #4, Jerry escribi=C3=B3: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:17:46 -0400 I was just wondering if anyone had tried or has openldap running with MDB o= n a FreeBSD machine. I am looking for some pointers on how to get it up and running. Hi, I'm running OpenLDAP with MDB backend with success. Try installing it from the ports and select the MDB backend in the build options (configure). Apparently, the default config file has both BDB & MDB checked. I would therefore assume I have MDB compiled in. Do I now have to run "slapd-mdb" after the system starts to get it up and running? I already have the following in the rc.conf file: ## OPENLDAP slapd_enable=3D"YES" slapd_flags=3D'-h "ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fldapi/ ldap://0.0.0.0/= "' slapd_sockets=3D"/var/run/openldap/ldapi" Also, I am assuming that you replaced: "database bdb" with "database mdb" i= n the slapd.conf file. Did you need to make any other modifications? Thanks Hi Jerry, No, yo dont have to run "slapd-mdb" to start the service, just a "/usr/loca= l/etc/rc.d/slapd start". And in /etc/rc.conf i only have: slapd_enable=3D"YES" Thats all i need to get openldap running. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f97sm6631521yhq.29.2014.08.13.15.07.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 15:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3hYQ4r5hzRz3DlTL for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:07:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:07:15 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slapd-mdb - Memory-Mapped DB backend to slapd Message-ID: <20140813180715.73429bea@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <53EBC04A.4060504@edatel.com.co> References: <20140813121912.60ff6c1f@scorpio> <53EB913A.8020300@edatel.com.co> <20140813144906.1424a08e@scorpio> <53EBC04A.4060504@edatel.com.co> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/fl_lXO4LVgZ_nCgHcPXJZej"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:07:28 -0000 --Sig_/fl_lXO4LVgZ_nCgHcPXJZej Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:45:14 -0500, Marco Muskus stated: >No, yo dont have to run "slapd-mdb" to start the service, just a >"/usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd start". > >And in /etc/rc.conf i only have: > >slapd_enable=3D"YES" > >Thats all i need to get openldap running. I am doing that now; however, I do not think it activates the MDB feature. I'll have t research it further. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/fl_lXO4LVgZ_nCgHcPXJZej Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT6+GcAAoJEElTsHIJnX8exlwIALfMjd2YptwGKZQJ9Mu0hV+l 1YLc/AiOp+rKFeHjfi6FtdAkaIPFO0rNXTBmYWpJG8dFu0j/n4LvxUTbCbrBYnoG HAYXFrdySgDutLZjH3RNc8fh8Oagjn+DlCCQGg9XYOKzMbLMnREOqXbecTv9bUFC Z22bKzjqKQhwbIOUIpw3gezLFTZNIAEzzc5ZQJBmpljDNo5nnc1tMdhMEhTAkcgF cryFtEZZ4bQYU7sBCmaoIoCzRg/C0HSy4nDYirOggDnwW2E+/l4I6m6joFFmsVds axXhLpK7gDnKrskRr1zAyV3t9/HPZgYqx8VIUNOZml/0i1my9LqMD1/Jv6+XV4A= =ybPh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/fl_lXO4LVgZ_nCgHcPXJZej-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 22:23:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E8F599A; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC9352834; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-107.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.107]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7DMNQNC032126; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:23:27 -0500 Message-ID: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" , FreeBSD X11 mailing list Subject: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:23:29 -0000 .... & I bumped into a bit of a snag .... I physically swapped the old & new boxen this A.M. (limited space) & carried the old back into the shop room. I hooked everything up & booted the new one. Boot went fine, xdm login screen came up, & I logged in. It went black for about 5 sec., then returned to the login screen :-( .... I did this several times before deciding to shell in & look around. I observe the following: [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:34:34pm] 314 % ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 11 400.0 0.0 0 64 ?? RL 8:14AM 1793:07.23 [idle] root 0 0.0 0.0 0 144 ?? DLs 8:14AM 0:00.05 [kernel] root 1 0.0 0.0 6276 676 ?? ILs 8:14AM 0:00.02 /sbin/init -- root 2 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.00 [sctp_iterator] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.00 [xpt_thrd] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.06 [pagedaemon] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.00 [vmdaemon] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.00 [pagezero] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.29 [bufdaemon] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.30 [vnlru] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.91 [syncer] root 10 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.00 [audit] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 352 ?? WL 8:14AM 1:02.21 [intr] root 13 0.0 0.0 0 48 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.34 [geom] root 14 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:02.38 [yarrow] root 15 0.0 0.0 0 416 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:01.10 [usb] root 16 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL 8:14AM 0:00.63 [softdepflush] root 154 0.0 0.0 9956 1512 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i root 443 0.0 0.0 14268 1696 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused. root 464 0.0 0.0 14268 1696 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.67 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums1 -t auto -I /var/run/moused. root 485 0.0 0.0 10376 4788 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.02 /sbin/devd root 619 0.0 0.0 12080 1744 ?? Ss 8:14AM 0:00.08 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s root 666 0.0 0.0 14168 1900 ?? Ss 8:14AM 0:00.05 /usr/sbin/rpcbind root 668 0.0 0.1 16144 12136 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.03 /usr/sbin/amd -p -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.ma root 716 0.0 0.0 16180 3736 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/mountd -r root 718 0.0 0.0 14044 3604 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.06 nfsd: master (nfsd) root 719 0.0 0.0 9948 1780 ?? I 8:14AM 0:00.07 nfsd: server (nfsd) messagebus 736 0.0 0.0 14348 2616 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.06 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --system root 802 0.0 0.0 22264 3400 ?? Ss 8:14AM 0:01.73 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f / daemon 811 0.0 0.0 9948 1760 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.06 /usr/sbin/rwhod root 833 0.0 0.0 49272 5772 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 836 0.0 0.0 20344 4780 ?? Ss 8:14AM 0:00.64 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) smmsp 839 0.0 0.0 20344 4796 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.01 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmque root 843 0.0 0.0 14184 1960 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:00.09 /usr/sbin/cron -s root 892 0.0 0.0 41056 3228 ?? I 8:14AM 0:00.03 /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon ttyv8 haldaemon 897 0.0 0.0 57544 6832 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:16.99 /usr/local/sbin/hald root 899 0.0 0.0 75728 6848 ?? I 8:14AM 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon root 901 0.0 0.3 129984 49328 ?? Is 8:14AM 0:15.46 /usr/local/bin/X :0 -auth /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/ root 903 0.0 0.0 62840 6536 ?? I 8:14AM 0:00.04 /usr/local/libexec/polkitd --no-debug root 904 0.0 0.0 39596 5388 ?? I 8:14AM 0:00.29 hald-runner root 932 0.0 0.0 29468 3736 ?? I 8:14AM 0:00.22 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy root 936 0.0 0.0 29468 3740 ?? I 8:14AM 0:00.22 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums1 (hald-addon-mouse-sy root 1094 0.0 0.0 74532 6244 ?? Is 8:17AM 0:00.15 sshd: root@pts/1 (sshd) root 1271 0.0 0.0 72492 5212 ?? Is 8:40AM 0:00.04 xdm: :0 (xdm) root 1279 0.0 0.0 51716 4688 ?? I 8:40AM 0:00.01 xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose - root 1940 0.0 0.0 74532 6256 ?? Ss 3:29PM 0:00.10 sshd: root@pts/2 (sshd) root 884 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v0 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0 root 885 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v1 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 root 886 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v2 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 root 887 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v3 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3 root 888 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v4 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4 root 889 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v5 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5 root 890 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v6 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6 root 891 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v7 Is+ 8:14AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 root 1097 0.0 0.0 17568 3912 1 Is+ 8:18AM 0:00.10 -csh (csh) root 1943 0.0 0.0 17568 3964 2 Ss 3:29PM 0:00.09 -csh (csh) root 1976 0.0 0.0 16296 1980 2 R+ 3:42PM 0:00.00 ps -aux [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:42:48pm] 315 % ll -tr /var/log/ total 696 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 30 19:42 samba/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 79327 Aug 2 00:38 bsdinstall_log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Aug 2 05:39 xferlog -rw-r----- 1 root network 0 Aug 2 05:39 ppp.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Aug 2 05:39 lpd-errs -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Aug 2 05:39 debug.log -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 0 Aug 2 07:00 sendmail.st.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9519 Aug 2 07:00 messages.0.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Aug 3 03:02 pf.today drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 5 08:47 ConsoleKit/ -rw------- 1 root wheel 1089 Aug 5 08:47 userlog -rw------- 1 root wheel 5073 Aug 6 03:02 setuid.yesterday -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 680 Aug 7 00:00 maillog.6.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 4997 Aug 7 17:00 cron.2.bz2 -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 802 Aug 8 00:00 maillog.5.bz2 -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 685 Aug 9 00:00 maillog.4.bz2 -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 1448 Aug 9 07:00 sendmail.st.0 -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 1031 Aug 10 00:00 maillog.3.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 5219 Aug 10 03:04 setuid.today -rw------- 1 root wheel 29761 Aug 10 03:05 dmesg.yesterday -rw------- 1 root wheel 5173 Aug 10 09:00 cron.1.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 60750 Aug 10 09:17 security -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 811 Aug 11 00:00 maillog.2.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 413 Aug 11 03:02 mount.yesterday -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 834 Aug 12 00:00 maillog.1.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 660 Aug 12 03:02 ipfw.yesterday -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 817 Aug 13 00:00 maillog.0.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 5195 Aug 13 02:00 cron.0.bz2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 415 Aug 13 03:05 mount.today -rw------- 1 root wheel 704 Aug 13 03:05 ipfw.today -rw------- 1 root wheel 29814 Aug 13 03:05 dmesg.today -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 1448 Aug 13 07:23 sendmail.st -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 54348 Aug 13 07:55 Xorg.0.log.old -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 176400 Aug 13 08:14 messages -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 2599 Aug 13 08:14 maillog -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5717 Aug 13 08:41 xdm.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 82761 Aug 13 15:22 Xorg.0.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4215 Aug 13 15:29 utx.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 394 Aug 13 15:29 utx.lastlogin -rw------- 1 root wheel 8443 Aug 13 15:29 auth.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 21097 Aug 13 15:40 cron [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal No manual entry for hal [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:27pm] 320 % grep 'kabini1 syslogd: kernel boot file is' /var/log/messages Aug 2 09:48:21 kabini1 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Aug 2 10:07:51 kabini1 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Aug 2 17:59:02 kabini1 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Aug 9 09:57:20 kabini1 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Aug 13 08:14:11 kabini1 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:32pm] 321 % The X server isn't running. although xdm is, which I find peculiar. I notice that when hal was installed, is was misconfigured, which I didn't fix. However, I have rebooted 3 times since, & only had problems the last time (this A.M.). I am puzzled :-/ .... any clues appreciated .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 05:24:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D3CC6DE; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 05:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3078F221B; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 05:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 118BB3CBBC; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:24:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7E5OUrY002009; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:24:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:24:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 05:24:40 -0000 On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* > /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, > (??) unknown. > /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: > unknown error (null) > /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not > implemented, (??) unknown. > /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) > [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages > Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed > Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable > is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). This is what you should have a look at. You sould have hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf file. > [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start > hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup > directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) > [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal > No manual entry for hal See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in the "SEE ALSO" section. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 06:53:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 183CDF0C for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C6C2A83 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:53:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 36318460 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:53:30 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s7E6rTsM065675 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:53:30 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s7E6rTwC065674 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:53:29 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:53:29 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore Message-ID: <20140814065329.GB64974@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:53:34 -0000 Andrew Hamilton-Wright wrote: > > True, but my understanding of snapshots is that it is supposed to > eliminate exactly this problem, no? There is something fishy about 'dump -L'. When I dump a busy mail server and then restore the dumps, I often get the message lile ./CommuniGate/Domains/mail.tomsk.ru/mptdkfe.macnt/account.info: (inode 7206930) not found on tape However, restoring this filesystems has always worked in general, with a few file lost like shown above. If you have SU+J, you cannot use -L at all, 'dump -L' (or mksnap_ffs) will complain. -- Victor Sudakov Tomsk, Russia Russian Barefoot FAQ at http://www.barefooters.ru/barefoot.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 07:07:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 698E61CD for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ECA2B87 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:07:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 36318522; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:07:05 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s7E774pS065956; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:07:04 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s7E774Hn065955; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:07:04 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:07:04 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with dump and restore Message-ID: <20140814070704.GC64974@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20140812193419.GB7166@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140812204056.GA7591@slackbox.erewhon.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140812204056.GA7591@slackbox.erewhon.home> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Andrew Hamilton-Wright X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:07:07 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > > No, I use SU+J. But I do dumps from single user mode on unmounted or read-only > filesystems so snapshots aren't used. And every month or so I run a *full* > fsck before making the dumps. Not everyone can afford the luxury of a regular downtime to perform the backups. BTW I already raised this question years ago without any useful result: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-August/155014.html -- Victor Sudakov Tomsk, Russia Russian Barefoot FAQ at http://www.barefooters.ru/barefoot.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 07:14:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B62CF4D1 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229C22CE7 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:14:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 36318563 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:39 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s7E7EdJR066135 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:39 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s7E7EdYc066134 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:39 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:14:39 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT question Message-ID: <20140814071439.GD64974@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <3hYH0x3vTtzCy1h@baobab.bilink.it> <53EBB8FF.6040504@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53EBB8FF.6040504@a1poweruser.com> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:14:41 -0000 Fbsd8 wrote: > Disregard that last post. ipfilter was updated to the current version 5 > in RELEASE 10.0 and I think also for 9.3. Been using ipfilter since > RELEASE 4.0 without any problems. Its rock hard and easy to use. I liked its syntax and would still use it if it could nat PPTP (GRE) correctly. Unfortunately this missing feature was a show-stopper for me. Natting more than one PPTP session requires special support which was missing in ipnat. It is even missing in some commercial hardware NASes, so I am not complaining. -- Victor Sudakov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 09:42:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 807E05DE for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AE42CBF for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id eZig1o005516WCc01ZihfV; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:42:41 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=TaoYtHgh c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=_gelNhxkGRwA:10 a=YzutBWqxEC4A:10 a=Fs6xeF1l_uQA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=aR16PxjQAAAA:8 a=s9oXJcMGAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=c2eam3QielFkv3jRRxUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=TRaWWqdqQ4oA:10 a=uLUL6ODoYCkA:10 a=CiSHi91Bn78A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.83) (envelope-from ) id 1XHrYM-0000wn-On for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:42:40 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:42:37 +0100 Message-ID: <2185120.2ReaZYee1X@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p17; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: New xorg fails with "module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (12)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:42:51 -0000 After upgrading from 9.1-RELEASE to 10.0-RELEASE I deleted all packages, created /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD_new_xorg.conf and ran "pkg install xorg". Attempts to run startx failed with an ABI mismatch message so I then tried "Xorg configure" which failed in the same way. ################################## curlew:/root# Xorg -configure X.Org X Server 1.12.4 Release Date: 2012-08-27 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p3 amd64 Current Operating System: FreeBSD curlew.lan 10.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Tue Jul 8 06:37:44 UTC 2014 root@amd64- builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Build Date: 13 August 2014 02:11:33AM Current version of pixman: 0.32.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug 13 21:48:42 2014 List of video drivers: openchrome r128 ati radeon mach64 nv intel vesa (EE) module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (12) No devices to configure. Configuration failed. Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file. ################################## The FreeBSD_new_xorg repository was used for some packages but I wonder if more of them should have been from there? ################################## curlew:/root# pkg query -a "%n %R" | grep FreeBSD_new_xorg dri FreeBSD_new_xorg libGL FreeBSD_new_xorg libdrm FreeBSD_new_xorg libglapi FreeBSD_new_xorg pciids FreeBSD_new_xorg python27 FreeBSD_new_xorg xf86-video-ati FreeBSD_new_xorg xf86-video-intel FreeBSD_new_xorg xorg-server FreeBSD_new_xorg curlew:/root# pkg info xorg xorg-7.7 Name : xorg Version : 7.7 Installed on : Wed Aug 13 20:57:12 BST 2014 Origin : x11/xorg Architecture : freebsd:10:x86:64 Prefix : /usr/local Categories : x11 Maintainer : x11@FreeBSD.org WWW : http://www.x.org/ Comment : X.Org complete distribution metaport Options : DOCS : on Annotations : repo_type : binary repository : FreeBSD Flat size : 0.00B Description : This is a metaport for all the X.Org packages available in the ports tree. WWW: http://www.x.org/ ################################## -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 09:54:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A83D38B2 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F9B32E3F for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id x12so833118wgg.4 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 02:54:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lhFRuK6jujM3rieB8JrVQg2FhA6eYHVF46iiCAckxNY=; b=pWyCBI4eHWzq/1o0clBR43LQreizQ3RxJdCMVHUNCYm+5ASxDxJcjz8QBljtHIEB02 Zg4sKaMjUdo+1RJf2LBjO5wRYdPY+noOWQcqwFb1avt3Edly9JKEenMdAJCyBXowfqQs zvaHAv9UWFSIj0nkxDyx70ancrDsQwCULv3ZdarQYpF+yrkwzF+NKwq4AlKREnMKZeeQ 1Mxnm2QrKLZ10uBHI8SRBkXlIAqTLr/gaH8O/Ow7bjvCSyzxj8s3hlAzFieuuS9bjTh9 1DeXPFQJbZlZG6Mi4CtjURVTGbA/JytQJJ2EL8EWVF4i8Kc1CHPQ6n0CzR775kZz88nM FRtQ== X-Received: by 10.194.237.194 with SMTP id ve2mr10475058wjc.89.1408010086209; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 02:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-168-30-173.range86-168.btcentralplus.com. [86.168.30.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m5sm18254364wiz.19.2014.08.14.02.54.44 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 02:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EC8763.7060708@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:54:43 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New xorg fails with "module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (12)" References: <2185120.2ReaZYee1X@curlew.lan> In-Reply-To: <2185120.2ReaZYee1X@curlew.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:54:48 -0000 On 14/08/2014 10:42, Mike Clarke wrote: > After upgrading from 9.1-RELEASE to 10.0-RELEASE I deleted all > packages, created /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD_new_xorg.conf and > ran "pkg install xorg". > > Attempts to run startx failed with an ABI mismatch message so I then > tried "Xorg configure" which failed in the same way. > > ################################## > curlew:/root# Xorg -configure > > X.Org X Server 1.12.4 > Release Date: 2012-08-27 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p3 amd64 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD curlew.lan 10.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD > 10.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Tue Jul 8 06:37:44 UTC 2014 root@amd64- > builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > Build Date: 13 August 2014 02:11:33AM > > Current version of pixman: 0.32.4 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug 13 21:48:42 2014 > List of video drivers: > openchrome > r128 > ati > radeon > mach64 > nv > intel > vesa > (EE) module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version > (12) > No devices to configure. Configuration failed. > Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file. > ################################## > > The FreeBSD_new_xorg repository was used for some packages but I > wonder if more of them should have been from there? > > ################################## > curlew:/root# pkg query -a "%n %R" | grep FreeBSD_new_xorg > > dri FreeBSD_new_xorg > libGL FreeBSD_new_xorg > libdrm FreeBSD_new_xorg > libglapi FreeBSD_new_xorg > pciids FreeBSD_new_xorg > python27 FreeBSD_new_xorg > xf86-video-ati FreeBSD_new_xorg > xf86-video-intel FreeBSD_new_xorg > xorg-server FreeBSD_new_xorg > > curlew:/root# pkg info xorg > > xorg-7.7 > Name : xorg > Version : 7.7 > Installed on : Wed Aug 13 20:57:12 BST 2014 > Origin : x11/xorg > Architecture : freebsd:10:x86:64 > Prefix : /usr/local > Categories : x11 > Maintainer : x11@FreeBSD.org > WWW : http://www.x.org/ > Comment : X.Org complete distribution metaport > Options : > DOCS : on > Annotations : > repo_type : binary > repository : FreeBSD > Flat size : 0.00B > Description : > This is a metaport for all the X.Org packages available in the ports > tree. > > WWW: http://www.x.org/ > ################################## > This is simple to fix - run 'portmaster xf86-' and it will rebuild the drivers beginning with xf86- and will then match the servers version. For some reason when building the ports for new xorg the drivers built and installed are for an older version of xorg server as you've seen when checking pkg info. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 10:25:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7A4FD63 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway02.edpnet.net (relaygateway02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806632192 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:25:32 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYGAKiN7FNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABagw1SQRaCespziGEXd4QtM18TDgIRBSWIfaEyjyuQUYUIj2mCY4FTBY8KjS4BlH6DXjsv X-IPAS-Result: AuYGAKiN7FNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABagw1SQRaCespziGEXd4QtM18TDgIRBSWIfaEyjyuQUYUIj2mCY4FTBY8KjS4BlH6DXjsv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,862,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="259871721" Received: from 77.109.112.125.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.112.125]) by relaygateway02.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 14 Aug 2014 11:52:29 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:24:16 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: soekris + buildworld/kernel/... Message-ID: <20140814102416.GI69063@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xGGVyNQdqA79rdfn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:25:34 -0000 --xGGVyNQdqA79rdfn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have a Soekris box for which I would like to upgrade through the "classical" way (buildworld, kernel, etc). As the box is pretty slow and requires a custom kernel, I would like to buildworld/buildkernel on another (fast) machine. How can I do that? Is scp -r or NFS mount /usr/obj enough ..? Thanks! 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However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --xGGVyNQdqA79rdfn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJT7I5QAAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pBncP/2+M4qn56q95ujqQcNMQd0vz QdcpZtzpnjxitvQMiLGDjWO2UjOmq+tSBaT+XVyGi0p+OzD8U9UAQfr4Qgr2Ij0C qKAgiWfn25p1G49vc0RdH1bpPkPqXxCKvLXjMuL9TgX9SsZZT4hlhht52LyUx0JE GedEudSWjzbslpEubGtwP1YCLVXHUZ0pjYmrl7WCSGMlLtOarXZY8W4Punsmfhvc IFvFqgp7Z9K12Fc3kHmLGywpS6AqRFS4jHqwq1Kf8nvtw/5XSWx6cQjRNlCcmOfU +dTRy1FMXdELYs/pVjYpT8Sy1+x4K5Dz13tonqsK+rR79X3Pd8YK8kAojg3EOckD D4WtTi6TRndkufJzHBzpK8fiZKsHSr9Tykee/LY9nJg4rL3iJ+8qh9Ax80TvrA5r NNaanhWqQN+Fb707QaancGpLm9If4kVNv7wj4L5i5uvBssaRz7HSd7jAvPPTtCtg sJwlAW9oemjgXU12f1w7ElcezFD15XWy1gQ0JU3gyZ5ewUxIJ3lGMD9k9tyaDL+J tXoa857Wmhiz1NjIaZouiFwWShbecy6dikMzm6RTngGT1BmvWqbfq6/3IlnWsohg rzFTSRk4Ef6jYgn3GHYzE8fhb40tAjsM10w0nvKlV0V2+YKP5eaJAiW1+KFL21s1 tXNs6KZxzIk9UpzVfc6F =rlvL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xGGVyNQdqA79rdfn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 10:55:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DF502BF for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "PositiveSSL CA 2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C3222537 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (ceto.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.30]) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ADA47F2206; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:55:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.200] (unknown [46.44.159.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02D0147F2205; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:55:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53EC95A6.70400@webrz.net> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:55:34 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: sftp bug? References: <53E20808.709@webrz.net> <20140806125140.f6cf5163.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140806125140.f6cf5163.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ceto.cloudzeeland.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:55:43 -0000 Problem solved - made a stupid assumption regarding shell commands. Instead of using .login, I put commands in .csh which caused output. And this cannot be the case with openssh/sftp: [1]http://marc.info/?l=openssh-bugs&m=106564883001263&w=1 BR, Jos Chrispijn Polytropon: Can I bypass this in a configuration file? The (unsafe) FTP program (ftp) accesses a file called ~/.netrc (see "man ftp" for details), surely sftp can do the same. In this file, passwords can be stored. But keep in mind: Those passwords are in _clear text_ inside this file, so make sure permissions are tight! By completely avoiding passwords and instead relying on keys the problem could probably be cured. So no password has to be stored as plain text in a regular file. References 1. http://marc.info/?l=openssh-bugs&m=106564883001263&w=1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 11:02:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD81A4CA for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x22a.google.com (mail-yk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EDDB2621 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 9so818869ykp.1 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 04:02:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7Q47/mPJYq4DxCSaAbugzKnoDyF9CzZYw7UF95AG7SI=; b=eZTrvBKaJ/ehJZWeLW8KASvrefEonalYhagWfayruRlwWwbV+hVS+omcBcGzluPRnE /OnI2qN4L8SXDqUNjKMakiBHugU1b1SU99yQW7vb+O09096en4VOvp+Z88MNn2Ebda/l H4/dvIgkPgci8kvxAb+cPGQlu+Yup2mWOgdJ0g35Np42ChQgeayTba/J+ScVW4PPRWFM CM4uQ1SOjAj11pqD/G2NS6+RW53dstDRmgKm73yjc1j8k0+ST9iNsuFyP9StC6vyu6WS SFSSgIHXS70RXg/eYFR3C/tD+8iJzupT6I9Wx1ohKGsUVmAqn4v5npd4G7Ujch/XQvSk rcqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.88.13 with SMTP id z13mr16649381yhe.34.1408014174680; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 04:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.132.80 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 04:02:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201408121123120262.00AFDB15@smtp.24cl.home> References: <53E92013.2020206@chroot.pl> <53E9C0D0.1080206@chroot.pl> <201408121123120262.00AFDB15@smtp.24cl.home> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:02:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: zpool from 32bit os to 64bit os From: krad To: "Mike." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:02:55 -0000 if the pool is a mirror, you can just split it, move one or one set of the drives across and try to import it. One all is good move the other disks across then attach them after cleaning them On 12 August 2014 16:23, Mike. wrote: > On 8/12/2014 at 9:43 AM Paul Kraus wrote: > > |On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:22, Lukasz wrote: > | > |> Thank you for answers. I'll try with export/import... I hope my > data > |> will be safe during this operation. :) > | > |If you want your data to be really, really safe, then: > > > 0. Make at least one backup of the data before doing anything else, > and make sure the backup worked. > > > > | > |1. Make sure to export from the original server. While you *can* > force the > |import on the new server, I really, really hate using the force > option as > |the check you are overriding is there for a reason. Sometimes you > don=E2=80=99t > |have a choice, but this is not a Disaster Recovery situation (and > you do > |not want it to become one). > | > |2. When you run the initial `zpool import` on the new system it will > list > |the zpools it finds *and* their state. If the zpool is not complete > or is > |any way not clean, then DO NOT IMPORT it and put the drives back in > the > |old system and figure out what is wrong there. > | > |3. When you run the `zpool import ` also set the > |readonly property using the -o option. This way if there is some > kind of > |incompatibility (and ZFS does check for this and should want you, > but it > |never really hurts to be paranoid) the new system will not write > anything > |to the zpool. > | > |4. If the readonly import goes well and all the data is there and > looks > |good, then export the zpool and import it again without the readonly > |property and you should be all set. > | > |The above may be overkill (depending on what your data is worth :-), > but I > |have seen bugs in ZFS (although not very many in the past few years, > I=E2=80=99ve > |been using ZFS since about 2007) and the additional time can save > you lots > |of time in recovery later on. > | > |-- > |Paul Kraus > |paul@kraus-haus.org > | > |_______________________________________________ > |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > |To unsubscribe, send any mail to > |"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 12:45:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64F79FDF for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co [190.109.177.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E055217E for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072AA44829B for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:44:00 -0500 (COT) Received: from correo.edatel.com.co (unknown [10.4.1.75]) by edatel-imsva-01.edatel.com.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D43448289 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:43:59 -0500 (COT) Received: from [10.4.4.116] (10.4.4.116) by edatel-hbt-01 (10.4.1.77) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.348.2; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: <53ECAF6C.1060605@edatel.com.co> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:45:32 -0500 From: Marco Muskus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User questions Subject: Re: slapd-mdb - Memory-Mapped DB backend to slapd References: <20140813121912.60ff6c1f@scorpio> <53EB913A.8020300@edatel.com.co> <20140813144906.1424a08e@scorpio> <53EBC04A.4060504@edatel.com.co> <20140813180715.73429bea@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20140813180715.73429bea@scorpio> X-TM-AS-MML: disable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:45:36 -0000 El 13/08/14 a las #4, Jerry escribi=C3=B3: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:45:14 -0500, Marco Muskus stated: No, yo dont have to run "slapd-mdb" to start the service, just a "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd start". And in /etc/rc.conf i only have: slapd_enable=3D"YES" Thats all i need to get openldap running. I am doing that now; however, I do not think it activates the MDB feature. I'll have t research it further. Actually what it gets MDB backend activated in OpenLDAP are the config line= s: --- moduleload back_mdb.la database mdb --- Regards, -- [cid:part2.01010800.03070508@edatel.com.co] Marco Antonio Muskus Muskus Ingeniero Operaci=C3=B3n Plataformas mamuskus@edatel.com.co Tel=C3=A9fono: +57 (4) 3846507 Medell=C3=ADn, Colombia www.edatel.com.co ________________________________ Este mensaje y/o sus anexos son para uso exclusivo de su destinatario inten= cional y puede contener informaci=C3=B3n legalmente protegida por ser confi= dencial. Si usted no es el destinatario intencional del mensaje por favor i= nf=C3=B3rmenos de inmediato y elim=C3=ADnelo, as=C3=AD como sus anexos. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 14:13:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C4AEFC6 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0CA52B5E for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id c1so13668252igq.7 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:13:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oYyhvfLbqesAosVuBHKmxssxTF6oEtpRXd2nHWIFidg=; b=SIm6h/eBHZOIAi9yOXnYyZhY1oyhHGy4uXQWTOHDJRoPhw5cNsDns+ZWViSTizFr/V 4Yt4HY0TeaaD3W2sa4kdM18meCQfNrXBwsQuZPrO2XFbWdOWCuPggmaVDXnJy7KAuDJC HZpYaRZ5PYQaGHx5cfYxxWZBCfWsE1tuy8EzTF6PyngfVZ6oi8u/4gUSdbBt9/oWOFY9 VhIBMJpwbgsPc6cIpOjNHa4I7g9nOuTYVPDEjQqPAY87VyFU6LRaBe22D//Yg394K6FW /1o5wAgMi2XJpx40lcJuG9/g8j4cSwdzRc+v+yD1M266xDdsYFGLxFP31RgHlwqt34gA HRUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.212.146 with SMTP id gs18mr3237502icb.96.1408025634381; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.165.73 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:13:54 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YzsxzcG21TjRjmujJCL1NRwwC48 Message-ID: Subject: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:13:55 -0000 Hi all, I have shell code whose purpose is to determine the first disk in the system where FreeBSD is to be installed. The code is not behaving as expected and I=E2=80=99m hoping that fresh pairs of eyes might help me iden= tify the problem. Here is the script along with an explanation of the implementation and description of the problem: #! /bin/sh disks=3D"da2 da1 da0"; for d in ${disks}; do if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then : ${disk:=3D${d}}; fi done echo $disk; # Given the input(s), $disks, the expected behavior of the above code is to # set $disk to "da0" which ends up being the chosen disk to install FreeBSD= . # # The for() loop iterates over $disks. The if() statement tests the status of # $disk; If $disk is unset/null, $disk is set to $d. If $disk is set, it # compares the binary value of $disk to $d and should select the element with # the lower binary value. In this particular case, it is expected to selec= t # da0 as the ultimate value for $disk, but in practice, it appears to set # $disk to da2 instead. # # NOTE: This is on FreeBSD 10. The code has been tested in bash as well, which # returns the same results. TIA --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 14:26:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6536E6BB for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0E9F2D08 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7EEQUW7004818; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:26:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53ECC716.2020106@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:26:30 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Miller , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:26:40 -0000 On 14/08/2014 15:13, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi all, > > I have shell code whose purpose is to determine the first disk in the > system where FreeBSD is to be installed. The code is not behaving as > expected and I’m hoping that fresh pairs of eyes might help me identify the > problem. > > Here is the script along with an explanation of the implementation and > description of the problem: > > #! /bin/sh > > disks="da2 da1 da0"; > > for d in ${disks}; do > if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then > : ${disk:=${d}}; > fi > done > > > echo $disk; > > > # Given the input(s), $disks, the expected behavior of the above code is to > # set $disk to "da0" which ends up being the chosen disk to install FreeBSD. > # > # The for() loop iterates over $disks. The if() statement tests the status > of > # $disk; If $disk is unset/null, $disk is set to $d. If $disk is set, it > # compares the binary value of $disk to $d and should select the element > with > # the lower binary value. In this particular case, it is expected to select > # da0 as the ultimate value for $disk, but in practice, it appears to set > # $disk to da2 instead. > # > # NOTE: This is on FreeBSD 10. The code has been tested in bash as well, > which > # returns the same results. > > TIA > Your problem is in : ${disk:=${d}}; From man sh ${parameter:=word} Assign Default Values. If parameter is unset or null, the expan‐ sion of word is assigned to parameter. In all cases, the final value of parameter is substituted. Quoting inside word does not prevent field splitting or pathname expansion. Only variables, not positional parameters or special parameters, can be assigned in this way. Once $disk has been set this form won't reset it. You should have disk="$d" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 14:36:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA0179BF for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22d.google.com (mail-ig0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A79E72E36 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f173.google.com with SMTP id h18so13734013igc.6 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:36:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tzzscxT6zRaoEzv0VKrPMVwPMUdCxgWRVU9EdhRmiM4=; b=p31yROlJsl2KKaIs0bRbJgK/rGQyP1owBgk6abo7bgC5i8aObK31r2TN2kP3CgEuUD eiRNRmC/Y6kUM/jfZNCFJIWuYt7XGxqs0GcDom/4PcPd3Fo6c8rTy8DfRjelco4AuIEE q0s7VOPo7QIUXLgU7OzLbpiWofQI4gQJpbVaCe/ch7i2CDGOWcoWx+qpDHThPjDT9W08 cahPHEddBcnKvt3UJqdCZbPQAV+izaBajM4igiKpUSD38+eFa1cnySGCHLMJRInNZE66 hveWzWe2OiKabf2E/vS/J5Zzn6+kSIS3LbbDFtnRYFAtUJcRS53sY9bEGIlEkeWcbCnf u9BQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.122.99 with SMTP id lr3mr58398030igb.10.1408027011084; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.165.73 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:36:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53ECC716.2020106@qeng-ho.org> References: <53ECC716.2020106@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:36:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zavW5McOBgFhsOnYZY47ljIAB-M Message-ID: Subject: Re: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected From: Rick Miller To: Arthur Chance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:36:51 -0000 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Arthur Chance wrote= : > On 14/08/2014 15:13, Rick Miller wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have shell code whose purpose is to determine the first disk in the >> system where FreeBSD is to be installed. The code is not behaving as >> expected and I=E2=80=99m hoping that fresh pairs of eyes might help me i= dentify >> the >> problem. >> >> Here is the script along with an explanation of the implementation and >> description of the problem: >> >> #! /bin/sh >> >> disks=3D"da2 da1 da0"; >> >> for d in ${disks}; do >> if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then >> : ${disk:=3D${d}}; >> fi >> done >> >> >> echo $disk; >> >> >> [ snip ] >> >> > Your problem is in > > : ${disk:=3D${d}}; > > From man sh > > ${parameter:=3Dword} > Assign Default Values. If parameter is unset or null, the expan= =E2=80=90 > sion of word is assigned to parameter. In all cases, the final > value of parameter is substituted. Quoting inside word does not > prevent field splitting or pathname expansion. Only variables, > not positional parameters or special parameters, can be assigned > in this way. > > Once $disk has been set this form won't reset it. > > You should have > > disk=3D"$d" > Excellent, thanks! My understanding of parameter expansion was flawed. I appreciate the info. --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 14:49:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 091D5C97 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1A27202E for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qemg.mta.ca ([138.73.29.51]:49186 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XHwG9-0002KM-Ba; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:44:09 -0300 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:49:12 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Hamilton-Wright To: Rick Miller Subject: Re: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:49:22 -0000 On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Rick Miller wrote: [ ... condensed ... ] > for d in ${disks}; do > if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then > : ${disk:=${d}}; > fi > done [ ... condensed ... ] > # $disk; If $disk is unset/null, $disk is set to $d. If $disk is set, it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I believe that this is your problem -- you want to update the value of disk whenever your if statement is true, whereas the above will do so only when the if statement is true _and_ your variable is unset. Is there a reason you are not simply using: disk=${d} as the assignment in your if statement? Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 16:08:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 824748E4 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from remote.thehowies.com (50-197-91-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.197.91.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "remote.thehowies.com", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B1F429E8 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::967:7eb6:ee49:3820]) by PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::967:7eb6:ee49:3820%11]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:07:02 -0700 From: John Howie To: Julien Cigar , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: soekris + buildworld/kernel/... Thread-Topic: soekris + buildworld/kernel/... Thread-Index: AQHPt6oZMFhvkEm/DUy56YCk6o8HrJvQRDgA Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:07:00 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20140814102416.GI69063@mordor.lan> In-Reply-To: <20140814102416.GI69063@mordor.lan> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616 x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.25] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <630A2088305999459FB024ACC6C3486B@thehowies.local> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:08:10 -0000 Hi Julien, There are a number of ways to do it. My preferred way is to build an image of a live filesystem with my custom kernel, use dd to write it to a disk partition on the target machine and then boot from it. I would not bother with NFS mounting filesystems, etc. Regards, John On 8/14/14, 3:24 AM, "Julien Cigar" wrote: >Hello, > >I have a Soekris box for which I would like to upgrade through the >"classical" way (buildworld, kernel, etc). As the box is pretty slow and >requires a custom kernel, I would like to buildworld/buildkernel on >another (fast) machine. How can I do that? Is scp -r or NFS mount >/usr/obj enough ..? > >Thanks! > >Julien > >--=20 >Julien Cigar >Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) >PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 >No trees were killed in the creation of this message. >However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 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Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:40:32 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:40:38 -0000 On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, doug wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to complete >> before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, replacing this one >> (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched up several years ago). >> Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a doozy. I need to get the Mail >> directory from the old machine to the new one. To start with, I just copied >> the whole thing. 35 min. later when it was done, I invoked T-bird on the >> FreeBSD box & none of the Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method >> worked AOK the last time I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box >> into service :-). That was also the last time I tried, last time I needed >> to do that. Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supposed >> to do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the '90's, >> which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB :-/ .... >> thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, thunderbird 31 on >> the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers .... >> > imapsync Did you get this done? If not I can give some help using the above utility. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 17:51:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A01EF74 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 514C327A8 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7EHprRk058947 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:51:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7EHproP058944; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:51:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:51:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Rick Miller Subject: Re: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 11:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:51:55 -0000 On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Rick Miller wrote: > Hi all, > > I have shell code whose purpose is to determine the first disk in the > system where FreeBSD is to be installed. The code is not behaving as > expected and I?m hoping that fresh pairs of eyes might help me identify the > problem. > > Here is the script along with an explanation of the implementation and > description of the problem: > > #! /bin/sh > > disks="da2 da1 da0"; > > for d in ${disks}; do > if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then > : ${disk:=${d}}; > fi > done The algorithm is not clear to me, but I would do something simpler like disk=`cd /dev; ls da? | head -n1` or, more correctly, disk=`sysctl -n kern.disks | tr " " "\n" | sort | head -n1` From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 19:43:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF54A283 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7282526B9 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7EJgsI9077936 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:42:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:42:54 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: vmware and jails Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:42:54 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 19:43:02 -0000 I am using vmware 6.0.4 on lion 10.7.5 to test stuff. Configuring the virtual machine to bridge::ethernet works fine for the host. The jail can ping the Mac, the host and itself via IP but nothing else. I can provide more details but solutions I found do not work, I have not tried NAT as that (apparently) needs to be done when building the VM machine. I have tried all the options available including sharing the network with the mac and add the FreeBSD host and jail IPs via ifconfig. Thanks for any thoughts. BTW as long as there is no resolv.conf I can ssh in fine. With a resolv.conf both starting the jail and ssh have to wait for DNS timeout (no routes). _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 22:01:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 843EBA0D; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B30B3382; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 20:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-109.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.109]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7EKkAvR028583; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:46:10 -0500 Message-ID: <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:52:25 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:01:24 -0000 On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, >> (??) unknown. >> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >> unknown error (null) >> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >> implemented, (??) unknown. >> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: > unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) > > > >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). > This is what you should have a look at. You sould have > > hald_enable="YES" > dbus_enable="YES" > > in your /etc/rc.conf file. > >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) > Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" > for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", > a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), > deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) > > > >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >> No manual entry for hal > See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in > the "SEE ALSO" section. > > > > hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 23:18:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C6FAD4C for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 23:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from joe.nabble.com (216-139-250-139.aus.us.siteprotect.com [216.139.250.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E66B4F57 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 23:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sam.nabble.com ([192.168.236.26]) by joe.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XI4H9-00026a-I9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:17:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:17:28 -0700 (PDT) From: M Taylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1408058248503-5938429.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: Change resolution earlier than...? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 23:18:00 -0000 Hello, So I learned from elsewhere in this mail listing how to use the sc flags in device.hints to set my console resolution. I guess the resolution change occurs at the point the sc driver is initialized about halfway through the boot device scan. Is this really the earliest point at which the console resolution can be set? Is there any way at all to have the entire device scan or even the initial boot menu display in a resolution higher than the ugly default? I can't seem to find any further info on this and since I'm quite new to FreeBSD, I'm hoping experienced users have some suggestions. I nevertheless tried using GRUB to pass on higher resolution settings but it doesn't work as advertised, so any help from that end might be useful as well. Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Change-resolution-earlier-than-tp5938429.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 01:56:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC9708FE for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF52E2E8A for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:cary@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7F1txjR001785 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:55:59 GMT Received: (from cary@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s7F1txvP002965; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:55:59 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:55:59 +0000 From: Cary To: Warren Block Subject: Re: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected Message-ID: <20140815015559.GA21249@SDF.ORG> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , Rick Miller , FreeBSD Questions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: Rick Miller , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 01:56:20 -0000 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:51:53AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Rick Miller wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >I have shell code whose purpose is to determine the first disk in the > >system where FreeBSD is to be installed. The code is not behaving as > >expected and I?m hoping that fresh pairs of eyes might help me identify the > >problem. > > > >Here is the script along with an explanation of the implementation and > >description of the problem: > > > >#! /bin/sh > > > >disks="da2 da1 da0"; > > > >for d in ${disks}; do > > if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then > > : ${disk:=${d}}; > > fi > >done > > The algorithm is not clear to me, Nor me. Rick, I don't understand the test. Would just if [ -z "${disk}" ]; then suffice ? Single-quoting the > operator looks like an error that would have prevented the shell from executing the script. > but I would do something simpler like > > disk=`cd /dev; ls da? | head -n1` > > or, more correctly, > > disk=`sysctl -n kern.disks | tr " " "\n" | sort | head -n1` > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 03:05:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0CD0DF6 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 03:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73719273F for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 03:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:cary@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7F35ftv027464 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 03:05:42 GMT Received: (from cary@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s7F35fk4000760; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 03:05:41 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 03:05:41 +0000 From: Cary To: Warren Block , Rick Miller , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected Message-ID: <20140815030541.GA20578@SDF.ORG> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , Rick Miller , FreeBSD Questions References: <20140815015559.GA21249@SDF.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140815015559.GA21249@SDF.ORG> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 03:05:56 -0000 On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 01:55:59AM +0000, Cary wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Rick Miller wrote: > > > > >Hi all, > > > > > >#! /bin/sh > > > > > >disks="da2 da1 da0"; > > > > > >for d in ${disks}; do > > > if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then > > > : ${disk:=${d}}; > > > fi > > >done > > > > The algorithm is not clear to me, > > Nor me. > Rick, I don't understand the test. Would just > > if [ -z "${disk}" ]; then > > suffice ? Single-quoting the > operator looks like an error that would have > prevented the shell from executing the script. Ok, it is possible. You can see that with or without quotes around the comparison operator the test is the same. $ if [ foo != bas ] ; then echo bar;fi bar $ if [ foo '!=' bas ] ; then echo bar;fi bar > > or, more correctly, > > > > disk=`sysctl -n kern.disks | tr " " "\n" | sort | head -n1` > > _______________________________________________ -- cary@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 07:32:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B509BB3 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5DCD2407 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7F7Was1006926; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:32:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53EDB794.3040702@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:32:36 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block , Rick Miller Subject: Re: /bin/sh script not behaving as expected References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:32:40 -0000 On 14/08/2014 18:51, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Rick Miller wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have shell code whose purpose is to determine the first disk in the >> system where FreeBSD is to be installed. The code is not behaving as >> expected and I?m hoping that fresh pairs of eyes might help me >> identify the >> problem. >> >> Here is the script along with an explanation of the implementation and >> description of the problem: >> >> #! /bin/sh >> >> disks="da2 da1 da0"; >> >> for d in ${disks}; do >> if [ -z "${disk}" -o "${disk}" '>' "${d}" ]; then >> : ${disk:=${d}}; >> fi >> done > > The algorithm is not clear to me, but I would do something simpler like > > disk=`cd /dev; ls da? | head -n1` > > or, more correctly, > > disk=`sysctl -n kern.disks | tr " " "\n" | sort | head -n1` Not sure that will work on all machines. "sysctl kern.disks" on my machine shows cd0 as well as other disks, and that will sort ahead of da? disks. Anyway, whatever this is for, why not simply tell the shell script which disk to use? It's not like it's going to change very often, and it's going to be da0 or ada0 in 99% of cases. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 08:04:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 427F54C2 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.xenet.de (server1out.xenet.de [213.221.94.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD7B2701 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.32] (intern.xenet.de [213.221.94.50]) (authenticated bits=0) by server1.xenet.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id s7F84iYZ044167 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:04:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from meyser@xenet.de) Message-ID: <53EDBF16.8050106@xenet.de> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:04:38 +0200 From: Matthias Meyser Organization: XeNET GmbH, Clausthal-Zellerfeld User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: soekris + buildworld/kernel/... References: <20140814102416.GI69063@mordor.lan> In-Reply-To: <20140814102416.GI69063@mordor.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:04:56 -0000 Hi Am 14.08.2014 um 12:24 schrieb Julien Cigar: > I have a Soekris box for which I would like to upgrade through the > "classical" way (buildworld, kernel, etc). As the box is pretty slow and > requires a custom kernel, I would like to buildworld/buildkernel on > another (fast) machine. How can I do that? Is scp -r or NFS mount > /usr/obj enough ..? You need "/usr/src", "/usr/doc" and "/usr/obj" on the target machine. Then you can do a normal installkernel/installworld/mergemaster usw... Cavecats: The Buildmachine must be the same ARCH as the targetmachine. amd&4->i386 Solution: on an am64 do buildkernel/buildworld in am i386 jail. Both machine clocks must be in sync. Works fine here for years. CU Matthias P.S. Complete Build on net4801 takes only 36hours. ;) -- Matthias Meyser | XeNET GmbH Tel.: +49-5323-9489050 | 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Marktstrasse 40 Fax: +49-5323-9489059 | Registergericht: Amtsgericht Braunschweig HRB 110823 Email: Meyser@xenet.de | Geschaeftsfuehrer: Matthias Meyser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 13:45:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F75AE6F; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 467042025; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-71.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.71]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FDj9N9030146; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:45:10 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE105D.1090809@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:51:25 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:45:12 -0000 On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, >>> (??) unknown. >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>> unknown error (null) >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>> implemented, (??) unknown. >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >> As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >> unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) >> >> >> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >>> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >>> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >>> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). >> This is what you should have a look at. You sould have >> >> hald_enable="YES" >> dbus_enable="YES" >> >> in your /etc/rc.conf file. >> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >>> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) >> Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" >> for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", >> a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), >> deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) >> >> >> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >>> No manual entry for hal >> See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in >> the "SEE ALSO" section. >> >> >> >> > > hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... > More info on my ongoing problems, output from my most recent xdm login attempts: [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:46:09am] 377 % ( tail -19 /var/log/xdm.log ) xdm info (pid 1176): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 162 requests (131 known processed) with 0 events remaining. xdm info (pid 892): Starting X server on :0 xdm info (pid 1210): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 xdm info (pid 1210): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole xdm info (pid 1256): executing session /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession xdm info (pid 1210): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 214 requests (214 known processed) with 0 events remaining. xdm info (pid 892): Starting X server on :0 xdm info (pid 1271): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 xdm info (pid 1271): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole xdm info (pid 2007): executing session /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession xdm info (pid 1271): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 162 requests (131 known processed) with 0 events remaining. xdm info (pid 892): Starting X server on :0 xdm info (pid 2022): sourcing /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:48:04am] 378 % ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 11 399.5 0.0 0 64 ?? RL Wed08AM 11639:27.50 [idle] root 9 0.1 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 4:36.19 [syncer] root 0 0.0 0.0 0 144 ?? DLs Wed08AM 0:00.31 [kernel] root 1 0.0 0.0 6276 676 ?? ILs Wed08AM 0:00.02 /sbin/init -- root 2 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:00.00 [sctp_iterator] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:00.00 [xpt_thrd] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:00.37 [pagedaemon] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:00.00 [vmdaemon] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:00.01 [pagezero] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:01.92 [bufdaemon] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:01.95 [vnlru] root 10 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:00.00 [audit] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 352 ?? WL Wed08AM 6:32.36 [intr] root 13 0.0 0.0 0 48 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:06.12 [geom] root 14 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:16.03 [yarrow] root 15 0.0 0.0 0 416 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:05.94 [usb] root 16 0.0 0.0 0 16 ?? DL Wed08AM 0:03.32 [softdepflush] root 154 0.0 0.0 9956 1512 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.00 adjkerntz -i root 443 0.0 0.0 14268 1696 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused root 464 0.0 0.0 14268 1696 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.74 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums1 -t auto -I /var/run/moused root 485 0.0 0.0 10376 4788 ?? Ss Wed08AM 0:00.12 /sbin/devd root 619 0.0 0.0 12080 1744 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.45 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s root 666 0.0 0.0 14168 1900 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.25 /usr/sbin/rpcbind root 668 0.0 0.1 16144 12136 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.06 /usr/sbin/amd -p -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.m root 716 0.0 0.0 16180 3736 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/mountd -r root 718 0.0 0.0 14044 3604 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.06 nfsd: master (nfsd) root 719 0.0 0.0 9948 1780 ?? I Wed08AM 0:00.45 nfsd: server (nfsd) messagebus 736 0.0 0.0 14348 2616 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.06 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --system root 802 0.0 0.0 22264 3416 ?? Ss Wed08AM 0:11.54 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f daemon 811 0.0 0.0 9948 1760 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.37 /usr/sbin/rwhod root 833 0.0 0.0 49272 5772 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd root 836 0.0 0.0 20344 4912 ?? Ss Wed08AM 0:04.12 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) smmsp 839 0.0 0.0 20344 4796 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:00.06 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqu root 843 0.0 0.0 14184 1960 ?? Ss Wed08AM 0:00.56 /usr/sbin/cron -s root 892 0.0 0.0 41056 3228 ?? I Wed08AM 0:00.03 /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon ttyv8 haldaemon 897 0.0 0.0 57544 6832 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:47.98 /usr/local/sbin/hald root 899 0.0 0.0 75728 6848 ?? I Wed08AM 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon root 901 0.0 0.3 130112 49960 ?? Is Wed08AM 0:17.12 /usr/local/bin/X :0 -auth /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles root 903 0.0 0.0 62840 6536 ?? I Wed08AM 0:00.04 /usr/local/libexec/polkitd --no-debug root 904 0.0 0.0 39596 5388 ?? I Wed08AM 0:00.29 hald-runner root 932 0.0 0.0 29468 3736 ?? I Wed08AM 0:00.22 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-s root 936 0.0 0.0 29468 3740 ?? I Wed08AM 0:00.22 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums1 (hald-addon-mouse-s root 1940 0.0 0.0 74532 6268 ?? Ss Wed03PM 0:00.39 sshd: root@pts/2 (sshd) root 2022 0.0 0.0 72492 5172 ?? Is Wed03PM 0:00.03 xdm: :0 (xdm) root 2030 0.0 0.0 51716 4688 ?? I Wed03PM 0:00.01 xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose root 884 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v0 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0 root 885 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v1 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 root 886 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v2 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 root 887 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v3 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3 root 888 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v4 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4 root 889 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v5 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5 root 890 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v6 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6 root 891 0.0 0.0 12088 1768 v7 Is+ Wed08AM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 root 1943 0.0 0.0 17568 3964 2 Ss Wed03PM 0:00.19 -csh (csh) root 6830 0.0 0.0 16296 1976 2 R+ 8:48AM 0:00.00 ps -aux [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:48:12am] 379 % notably, the X server isn't running. I'm stumped for now & I can't put this box into service unless I get this fixed :-( !!!! -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 14:04:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA5876EF; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B44382251; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-71.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.71]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FE4pDW014602; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:04:51 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:04:53 -0000 On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, >>> (??) unknown. >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>> unknown error (null) >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>> implemented, (??) unknown. >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >> As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >> unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) >> >> >> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >>> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >>> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >>> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). >> This is what you should have a look at. You sould have >> >> hald_enable="YES" >> dbus_enable="YES" >> >> in your /etc/rc.conf file. >> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >>> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) >> Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" >> for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", >> a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), >> deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) >> >> >> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >>> No manual entry for hal >> See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in >> the "SEE ALSO" section. >> >> >> >> > > hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... > A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot open display: . Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help Usage: xfce4-session [OPTION...] Help Options: -h, --help Show help options --help-all Show all help options --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options Application Options: --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports -V, --version Print version information and exit --display=DISPLAY X display to use [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % Any clues appreciated :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 14:26:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89B704DA; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44C6E2634; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id h136so1725100oig.11 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:26:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vSRAf8CJc1GfVVoYYZMty9zU8Hc8/T0a+O5qtdudZA8=; b=B0ezopUfQvUS4YI6u8849IuXL25qtRpfd5700m+7T3da/1m0QIceyX7vpgaIwT4mDm Xz9KcGqCYwXzBQYMJvxt/QfFuWVvAOUntP7/rf8tAmN2k/DxTzrTBI/IQUwWdLm5Wjyy Xt3plIWQBCK1hJfcYD+xbJtHA2BmENCwnXKtNgFyyC7S5EEpEeveYac3xs5JMfOi/cGY 5KF19YYVhKPUNzuEoG0nbSAxrL4UvTCXYGHqz2FQK9kH+CSWnSw8unVLrv7RbcjjBhVw KYuW4KuA4FAdWR7X58fRpHK9Bs0WRNKM7vfxnPE/SmNI2gHCfiIo8uRbUYX8GBUOXIkP lJgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.94.230 with SMTP id df6mr20838127obb.36.1408112776366; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.87.165 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:26:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:26:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... From: Andreas Nilsson To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:26:17 -0000 On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, >>>> (??) unknown. >>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>> unknown error (null) >>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>>> implemented, (??) unknown. >>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>> >>> As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>> unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >>>> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >>>> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >>>> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). >>>> >>> This is what you should have a look at. You sould have >>> >>> hald_enable="YES" >>> dbus_enable="YES" >>> >>> in your /etc/rc.conf file. >>> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >>>> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >>>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) >>>> >>> Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" >>> for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", >>> a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), >>> deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >>>> No manual entry for hal >>>> >>> See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in >>> the "SEE ALSO" section. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... >> >> > > A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: > > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* > -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors > [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors > /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 > xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 > > (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. > Using the fallback 'C' locale. > XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot > open display: . > Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. > [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date > Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help > Usage: > xfce4-session [OPTION...] > > Help Options: > -h, --help Show help options > --help-all Show all help options > --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options > > Application Options: > --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports > -V, --version Print version information and exit > --display=DISPLAY X display to use > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % > > > Any clues appreciated :-/ .... > > > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > > Could you post the whole Xorg.0.log? Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your .xinitrc I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? Best regards Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 15:34:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9D6920E for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCB82EE8 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id f3Wy1o005516WCc013Wzyy; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:30:59 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ANQ+opto c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=_gelNhxkGRwA:10 a=KCMKeSVDv8UA:10 a=C5BsU1_K3_kA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=RDwDGcU7sK2cpLBwVSIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.83) (envelope-from ) id 1XIJT0-0000gT-6Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:30:58 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:30:57 +0100 Message-ID: <1884719.AVqlqasO54@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p17; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <53EC8763.7060708@gmail.com> References: <2185120.2ReaZYee1X@curlew.lan> <53EC8763.7060708@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: New xorg fails with "module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (12)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:34:12 -0000 On Thursday 14 August 2014 10:54:43 Jamie Griffin wrote: > This is simple to fix - run 'portmaster xf86-' and it will rebuild > the drivers beginning with xf86- and will then match the servers > version. > > For some reason when building the ports for new xorg the drivers > built and installed are for an older version of xorg server as > you've seen when checking pkg info. Thanks, that fixed it. The odd thing is that neither pkg version nor portmaster gave any indication that the drivers were out of date. All the packages for xorg were installed in a single run of pkg install so I wouldd have expected the new repository to have supplied all the relevant drivers. Portmaster just re-installed the drivers rather than upgrading them. ################################## curlew:/root# portmaster xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa xf86-video- nv xf86-input-keyboard ===>>> Working on: xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 [snip] ===>>> The following actions were performed: Installation of devel/pkgconf (pkgconf-0.9.6_1) Installation of devel/xorg-macros (xorg-macros-1.19.0) Installation of x11/glproto (glproto-1.4.17) Installation of x11/resourceproto (resourceproto-1.2.0) Installation of x11/xf86driproto (xf86driproto-2.1.1) Re-installation of xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 Re-installation of xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 Re-installation of xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 Re-installation of xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 ################################## But I still don't understand why pkg install failed to get the drivers from the FreeBSD_new_xorg repository which does appear to have them. ################################## curlew:/root# pkg rquery -r FreeBSD_new_xorg "%n %v" xf86-input-mouse\ ? xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-nv xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse 1.9.0_3 xf86-video-vesa 2.3.3_3 xf86-video-nv 2.1.20_4 xf86-input-keyboard 1.8.0_2 ################################## In fact if I use "pkg install -r FreeBSD_new_xorg xf86-video-vesa" I do get it from FreeBSD_new_xorg and X works fine with it. But without the -r option it defaults to giving me the version from the FreeBSD repository. And Sod's law appears to apply here - pkg install did get the ati and intel video drivers from FreeBSD_new_xorg. Wrong versions of these Would not have affected me. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 15:47:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A7409ED; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 012A22115; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FFl7w1030630; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:47:07 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE2CF3.8030700@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:53:23 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080203030203020202050602" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:47:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080203030203020202050602 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 08/15/14 09:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM, William A. Mahaffey III <[1]wam@hiwaay.net> wrote: On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). This is what you should have a look at. You sould have hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf file. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal No manual entry for hal See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in the "SEE ALSO" section. hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot open display: . Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help Usage: xfce4-session [OPTION...] Help Options: -h, --help Show help options --help-all Show all help options --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options Application Options: --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports -V, --version Print version information and exit --display=DISPLAY X display to use [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % Any clues appreciated :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III Could you post the whole Xorg.0.log? Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your .xinitrc I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? Best regards Andreas OK, here goes, see attached. Whenever I startx from the command line after a console login, XFCE starts up & operates AOK, so I would guess the install is OK. Gfx hw is a jaguar kabini CPU, w/ GPU on die w/ CPU. gfx is too new for X.org support, so I am using the vesa driver. .xinitrc: exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:25:01 -0000 On 08/14/14 11:40, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, doug wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to >>> complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, >>> replacing this one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched >>> up several years ago). Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a >>> doozy. I need to get the Mail directory from the old machine to the >>> new one. To start with, I just copied the whole thing. 35 min. later >>> when it was done, I invoked T-bird on the FreeBSD box & none of the >>> Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method worked AOK the last time >>> I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box into service :-). >>> That was also the last time I tried, last time I needed to do that. >>> Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supposed to >>> do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the >>> '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB >>> :-/ .... thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, >>> thunderbird 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers .... >>> >> imapsync > > Did you get this done? If not I can give some help using the above > utility. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Not yet, but I am going to look into it. I change machines *so* infrequently it seems like extra wheel-spin .... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 16:28:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDEDB137 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5CB426B2 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FGS7f7031997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:28:07 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE368E.3080901@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:34:22 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: How to transfer Mail from old machine to new FreeBSD box .... References: <53EA391E.9050609@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:28:09 -0000 On 08/14/14 11:40, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, doug wrote: > >> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> .... Well, I am down to the snorting post, the last task I need to >>> complete before putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 box into service, >>> replacing this one (AMD64X2 3800+, FC14 64-bit, terminally patched >>> up several years ago). Unfortunately, it looks like a bit of a >>> doozy. I need to get the Mail directory from the old machine to the >>> new one. To start with, I just copied the whole thing. 35 min. later >>> when it was done, I invoked T-bird on the FreeBSD box & none of the >>> Mail-directory was visible :-/. That method worked AOK the last time >>> I used it, 10+ years ago when I put the old box into service :-). >>> That was also the last time I tried, last time I needed to do that. >>> Is what I am doing supposed to work ? If not, how am I supposed to >>> do this ? Mind you, there are yearly archives going back into the >>> '90's, which I want preserved. The whole Mail directory is ~20 GiB >>> :-/ .... thunderbird.x86_64 17.0.7-1.fc14.remi on the Fedora box, >>> thunderbird 31 on the FreeBSD (box std,) .... TIA for any pointers .... >>> >> imapsync > > Did you get this done? If not I can give some help using the above > utility. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Not yet, but I am going to look into it. I change machines *so* infrequently it seems like extra wheel-spin .... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 16:44:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14882A42 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBD9B28D1 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FGiSZG014252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:44:28 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE3A63.8060309@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:50:43 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: how to import firefox history from old machine .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:44:30 -0000 I have 1 more vexing task: I want to import my history data for firefox from my old desktop. Whenever I open the history dialog to do that & select import from HTML, it threatens to overwrite bookmarks, not history data .... FF bug ? Any workarounds ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 16:51:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEB51D1C; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 549052944; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FGp8X0018605 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:51:09 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE3BF4.3070605@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:57:24 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030005050608090608050404" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:51:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030005050608090608050404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08/15/14 09:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM, William A. Mahaffey III <[1]wam@hiwaay.net> wrote: On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). This is what you should have a look at. You sould have hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf file. [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal No manual entry for hal See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in the "SEE ALSO" section. hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot open display: . Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help Usage: xfce4-session [OPTION...] Help Options: -h, --help Show help options --help-all Show all help options --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options Application Options: --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports -V, --version Print version information and exit --display=DISPLAY X display to use [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % Any clues appreciated :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III Could you post the whole Xorg.0.log? Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your .xinitrc I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? Best regards Andreas OK, here goes, see attached. Whenever I startx from the command line after a console login, XFCE starts up & operates AOK, so I would guess the install is OK. Gfx hw is a jaguar kabini CPU, w/ GPU on die w/ CPU. gfx is too new for X.org support, so I am using the vesa driver. .xinitrc: exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. References 1. mailto:wam@hiwaay.net --------------030005050608090608050404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="xorg.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xorg.conf" # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" ModelName "LCD Panel 1280x960" HorizSync 31.5 - 64.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 65.0 Option "dpms" EndSection # Section "Device" # Identifier "Videocard0" # Driver "nv" # EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nvidia" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection --------------030005050608090608050404-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 16:53:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EC15E24; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56AB129ED; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FGrgY6023587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:53:43 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:59:57 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Nilsson Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:53:47 -0000 On 08/15/14 09:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: > >> On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, >>>>> (??) unknown. >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>>> unknown error (null) >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>>>> implemented, (??) unknown. >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>> >>>> As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>> unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >>>>> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >>>>> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >>>>> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). >>>>> >>>> This is what you should have a look at. You sould have >>>> >>>> hald_enable="YES" >>>> dbus_enable="YES" >>>> >>>> in your /etc/rc.conf file. >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >>>>> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >>>>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) >>>>> >>>> Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" >>>> for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", >>>> a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), >>>> deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >>>>> No manual entry for hal >>>>> >>>> See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in >>>> the "SEE ALSO" section. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... >>> >>> >> A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: >> >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* >> -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors >> /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 >> xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 >> >> (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. >> Using the fallback 'C' locale. >> XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot >> open display: . >> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date >> Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help >> Usage: >> xfce4-session [OPTION...] >> >> Help Options: >> -h, --help Show help options >> --help-all Show all help options >> --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options >> >> Application Options: >> --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports >> -V, --version Print version information and exit >> --display=DISPLAY X display to use >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % >> >> >> Any clues appreciated :-/ .... >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> >> > Could you post the whole Xorg.0.log? > > Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your .xinitrc > > I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required > packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? > > What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? > > Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? > > Best regards > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I tried to attach 2 files & only 1 came through ..... Here is the Xorg.0.log .... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:11:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B8494FE; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7DDD2C69; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FHBDjB003132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:11:13 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE40A8.70808@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:17:28 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:11:15 -0000 On 08/15/14 09:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: > >> On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, >>>>> (??) unknown. >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>>> unknown error (null) >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>>>> implemented, (??) unknown. >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>> >>>> As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>> unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >>>>> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >>>>> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >>>>> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). >>>>> >>>> This is what you should have a look at. You sould have >>>> >>>> hald_enable="YES" >>>> dbus_enable="YES" >>>> >>>> in your /etc/rc.conf file. >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >>>>> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >>>>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) >>>>> >>>> Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" >>>> for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", >>>> a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), >>>> deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >>>>> No manual entry for hal >>>>> >>>> See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in >>>> the "SEE ALSO" section. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... >>> >>> >> A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: >> >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* >> -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors >> /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 >> xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 >> >> (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. >> Using the fallback 'C' locale. >> XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot >> open display: . >> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date >> Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help >> Usage: >> xfce4-session [OPTION...] >> >> Help Options: >> -h, --help Show help options >> --help-all Show all help options >> --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options >> >> Application Options: >> --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports >> -V, --version Print version information and exit >> --display=DISPLAY X display to use >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % >> >> >> Any clues appreciated :-/ .... >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> >> > Could you post the whole Xorg.0.log? > > Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your .xinitrc > > I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required > packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? > > What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? > > Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? > > Best regards > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > For some reason, I can't get the Xorg.0.log to attach, sorry .... Here are the last 40-ish lines: ( tail -49 /var/log/Xorg.0.log ) (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" (==) USB Keyboard: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) USB Keyboard: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) USB Keyboard: Buttons: 5 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "USB Keyboard" (type: MOUSE) (**) USB Keyboard: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) USB Keyboard: (accel) acceleration profile 0 (II) USB Keyboard: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) USB Keyboard: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (II) config/hal: Adding input device USB Keyboard (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.8.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 7.0 (**) USB Keyboard: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Option "XkbRules" "base" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Option "XkbRules" "base" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x1D4 (1680x1050) (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "StopBits" "2" (**) Option "DataBits" "8" (**) Option "Parity" "None" (**) Option "Vmin" "1" (**) Option "Vtime" "0" (**) Option "FlowControl" "None" [root@kabini1, /etc, 12:16:26pm] 353 % May not help much, since I rebooted once since your post, sorry :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:21:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAABEB37; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 638D02DF6; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id uz6so244491obc.0 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:21:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=O81EMXpOihSRyrA4CdfVuWeA35IjlYyaBZMehMBWk+w=; b=Fs9JBeF/+4wU6/2mjUeEoNzwQMTat0kBU2NJDDBAHk+MKbYviinvIaq7R424gASL/F /UCggjKIderDivbifhMkVoihqWm3VBF9nlSI7DhKHlDfJLjcJpzCV0bw+U6sF2HQtg4h usMczH8mgmvN/6/AuZwb1pmQ1TUSxIVA6U+/l4oVTy+LWKzDr/HugeS8zcygkzmapIGx pjvIOeyaRy2+D4ssP+oTUwdG6eHwEVhuXyJFjjQ+/5kOVaXuT+6yEinw3dHAnUNUhb6S SnDAmliRqvvdZR3FOokglgVC5gHNtfR3YoFz5SXtaQZDK8qhz4aSLpc1uDsQcBCcoLU6 7TbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.149.235 with SMTP id ud11mr21521815obb.50.1408123304702; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.87.165 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:21:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:21:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... From: Andreas Nilsson To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:21:45 -0000 On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:59 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/15/14 09:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM, William A. Mahaffey III >> wrote: >> >> On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>> On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>>>>> implemented, >>>>>> (??) unknown. >>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>>>> unknown error (null) >>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>>>>> implemented, (??) unknown. >>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>>> >>>>>> As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>>> unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >>>>> >>>>>> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >>>>>> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >>>>>> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what you should have a look at. You sould have >>>>> >>>>> hald_enable="YES" >>>>> dbus_enable="YES" >>>>> >>>>> in your /etc/rc.conf file. >>>>> >>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >>>>> >>>>>> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >>>>>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" >>>>> for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", >>>>> a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), >>>>> deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >>>>> >>>>>> No manual entry for hal >>>>>> >>>>>> See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in >>>>> the "SEE ALSO" section. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... >>>> >>>> >>>> A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: >>> >>> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* >>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* >>> -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors >>> /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 >>> xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 >>> >>> (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. >>> Using the fallback 'C' locale. >>> XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot >>> open display: . >>> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date >>> Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help >>> Usage: >>> xfce4-session [OPTION...] >>> >>> Help Options: >>> -h, --help Show help options >>> --help-all Show all help options >>> --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options >>> >>> Application Options: >>> --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports >>> -V, --version Print version information and exit >>> --display=DISPLAY X display to use >>> >>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % >>> >>> >>> Any clues appreciated :-/ .... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> William A. Mahaffey III >>> >>> >>> >>> Could you post the whole Xorg.0.log? >> >> Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your .xinitrc >> >> I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required >> packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? >> >> What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? >> >> Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? >> >> Best regards >> Andreas >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > I tried to attach 2 files & only 1 came through ..... Here is the > Xorg.0.log .... > Thanks. It did attach. Well since it works with plain startx it seems unlikely that xorg is to blame. Perhaps you could add something like ulimit -c 512 to xinitrc to see if there is a segfault or something. I don't use xfce, but maybe there is a switch which can enable more logging? The xorg.conf puzzels me, it specifies nvidia as driver? Why? But I'm out of ideas. Everything seems to start ok, and then something goes wrong. Best regards Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:24:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10985C41 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C62ED2E20 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E6A03CC96; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:24:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7FHODvb001991; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:24:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:24:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:24:23 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > open display: . Huh? > Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession file (last line)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:25:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41708D0A; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 088422E4B; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FHPppj012491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:25:51 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE4416.5090807@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:32:06 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:25:53 -0000 On 08/15/14 12:21, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:59 PM, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: > >> On 08/15/14 09:26, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM, William A. Mahaffey III >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 08/14/14 15:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> On 08/14/14 00:24, Polytropon wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:29:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:08pm] 316 % grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log* >>>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>>>>>> implemented, >>>>>>> (??) unknown. >>>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>>>>> unknown error (null) >>>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not >>>>>>> implemented, (??) unknown. >>>>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old:(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As you can see, "config/hal: couldn't initialise context: >>>>>> unknown error (null)" is a very helpful message. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:15pm] 317 % grep hal /var/log/messages >>>>>> >>>>>>> Aug 5 08:47:54 kabini1 pkg: hal-0.5.14_26 installed >>>>>>> Aug 5 09:16:51 kabini1 root: /usr/sbin/service: WARNING: $hald_enable >>>>>>> is not set properly - see rc.conf(5). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is what you should have a look at. You sould have >>>>>> hald_enable="YES" >>>>>> dbus_enable="YES" >>>>>> >>>>>> in your /etc/rc.conf file. >>>>>> >>>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:19pm] 318 % service hal start >>>>>> >>>>>>> hal does not exist in /etc/rc.d or the local startup >>>>>>> directories (/usr/local/etc/rc.d) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, it's "service hald start". The service's name is "hald" >>>>>> for "HAL daemon", and HAL means "hardware abstraction layer", >>>>>> a technology "mandatory" to X (unless you "uncomple" it), >>>>>> deprecated in Linux long time ago. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 3:43:23pm] 319 % man hal >>>>>> >>>>>>> No manual entry for hal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See "man hald". There are many more manpages referenced in >>>>>> the "SEE ALSO" section. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> hald is in fact running, & both entries are in my rc.conf file .... >>>>> >>>>> A little more input, from login attempt about 5 min. ago: >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:32am] 411 % ll -tr ~wam/.xsession* >>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 wam users 34 Aug 8 18:22 /home/wam/.xsession* >>>> -rw------- 1 wam users 355 Aug 15 09:05 /home/wam/.xsession-errors >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:37am] 412 % more ~wam/.xsession-errors >>>> /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 >>>> xrdb: "XTerm*saveLines" on line 76 overrides entry on line 61 >>>> >>>> (process:6932): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. >>>> Using the fallback 'C' locale. >>>> XDM authorization key matches an existing client!xfce4-session: Cannot >>>> open display: . >>>> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:39am] 413 % date >>>> Fri Aug 15 09:06:43 CDT 2014 >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:06:43am] 414 % xfce4-session --help >>>> Usage: >>>> xfce4-session [OPTION...] >>>> >>>> Help Options: >>>> -h, --help Show help options >>>> --help-all Show all help options >>>> --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options >>>> >>>> Application Options: >>>> --disable-tcp Disable binding to TCP ports >>>> -V, --version Print version information and exit >>>> --display=DISPLAY X display to use >>>> >>>> [root@kabini1, /etc, 9:07:02am] 415 % >>>> >>>> >>>> Any clues appreciated :-/ .... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> William A. Mahaffey III >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Could you post the whole Xorg.0.log? >>> Xdm uses .xinitrc to start a "something" right? Please show your .xinitrc >>> >>> I guess you're trying to use xfce, have you verified that all required >>> packages are installed ( xfce, xorg-server, xf86-video*, xf86-input*? >>> >>> What graphics hw are you using? Which xorg-stack ( new /old)? >>> >>> Are you using a xorg.conf or using default on-the-fly-config? >>> >>> Best regards >>> Andreas >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> I tried to attach 2 files & only 1 came through ..... Here is the >> Xorg.0.log .... >> > Thanks. It did attach. > > Well since it works with plain startx it seems unlikely that xorg is to > blame. > > Perhaps you could add something like ulimit -c 512 to xinitrc to see if > there is a segfault or something. I don't use xfce, but maybe there is a > switch which can enable more logging? > > The xorg.conf puzzels me, it specifies nvidia as driver? Why? > > But I'm out of ideas. Everything seems to start ok, and then something goes > wrong. > > Best regards > Andreas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hmmmm .... I don't know what got attached, my xorg.conf specifies vesa gfx driver .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:27:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C614AED2 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 752832E7B for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FHRbrh013617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:27:38 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:33:52 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:27:41 -0000 On 08/15/14 12:24, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> open display: . > Huh? > > > >> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. > Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's ~/.xinitrc or > ~/.xsession file (last line)? > > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:26:31pm] 364 % cat .xinitrc exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:39pm] 365 % cat .xsession #! exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:45pm] 366 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:28:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2D31CE for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 759BE2E91 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E19EF3CCCD; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:28:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7FHS3Zr002000; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:28:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:28:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: how to import firefox history from old machine .... Message-Id: <20140815192803.4cef2056.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EE3A63.8060309@hiwaay.net> References: <53EE3A63.8060309@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:28:05 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:50:43 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > I have 1 more vexing task: I want to import my history data for firefox > from my old desktop. Whenever I open the history dialog to do that & > select import from HTML, it threatens to overwrite bookmarks, not > history data .... FF bug ? Any workarounds ? You have the ~/.mozilla/firefox/ subtree to examine. Also have a look for import / export functions inside Firefox: You probably have been using the function to import the history _as bookmarks_, which isn't what you want. So maybe it's easier to identify the history file within the source subtree and copy it to the destination subtree, while Firefox is not running. But sadly I can't tell you which file that would exactly be... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:37:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05B64390 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B94A32072 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45680276DB; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7FHavh5002137; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:36:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:36:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140815193657.b7a67359.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EE4416.5090807@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> <53EE4416.5090807@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:37:06 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:32:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Hmmmm .... I don't know what got attached, my xorg.conf specifies vesa > gfx driver .... That also sounds wrong. What kind of graphics card are you actually using? Typical answers: ATI, nVidia, Intel... Follow-up question: Did you install the -driver package (in case of nVidia: nvidia-driver)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:39:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A33175FB for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 524A520A4 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FHdUeT024304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:39:30 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE4749.5090000@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:45:45 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> <53EE4416.5090807@hiwaay.net> <20140815193657.b7a67359.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140815193657.b7a67359.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:39:35 -0000 On 08/15/14 12:36, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:32:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Hmmmm .... I don't know what got attached, my xorg.conf specifies vesa >> gfx driver .... > That also sounds wrong. What kind of graphics card are > you actually using? Typical answers: ATI, nVidia, Intel... > Follow-up question: Did you install the -driver > package (in case of nVidia: nvidia-driver)? > > AMD jaguar kabini CPU, GPU on die w/ CPU, not yet supported by X.org ..... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:42:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27BD36DB for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCAE92151 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D08E2276DB; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:42:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7FHgO9S002143; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:42:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:42:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140815194224.5e9fe5fd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:42:27 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:33:52 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/15/14 12:24, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> open display: . > > Huh? > > > > > > > >> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. > > Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's ~/.xinitrc or > > ~/.xsession file (last line)? > > > > > > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:26:31pm] 364 % cat .xinitrc > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:39pm] 365 % cat .xsession > #! > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:45pm] 366 % Okay, both look correct. But... the error message reads: Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. ^ So it's "xfce4-session" (with a hyphen)? Check if the specified binary does actually exist. If I remember correctly, the Xfce 4 session manager is _really_ xfce4-session, not startxfce4, and in case of using HAL, or... erm... was it exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch xfce4-session I'm not sure anymore, those "modern" desktop environments can be very complicated during their continuous evolution. On HAL-infected systems, I usually relapse to use Gnome 2 instead of Xfce because the newer versions include too many things that don't work anymore. And it's not that Gnome works flawlessly out of the box either... :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:44:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE1AC7A9 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ED982184 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5217276E4; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:44:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7FHicsE002174; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:44:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:44:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:44:40 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:33:52 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/15/14 12:24, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> open display: . > > Huh? > > > > > > > >> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. > > Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's ~/.xinitrc or > > ~/.xsession file (last line)? > > > > > > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:26:31pm] 364 % cat .xinitrc > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:39pm] 365 % cat .xsession > #! > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:45pm] 366 % Oh, and note that the first line "#!" is nonsense. Use "#!/bin/sh". Can probably be omitted. And you could try this: exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4 This looks familiar to me. I prefer something simpler though. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:46:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3789A964 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9AAA21B5 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 459F12770C; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:46:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7FHk1JT002180; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:46:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:46:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140815194601.d0108283.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EE4749.5090000@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> <53EE4416.5090807@hiwaay.net> <20140815193657.b7a67359.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4749.5090000@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:46:03 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:45:45 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/15/14 12:36, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:32:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> Hmmmm .... I don't know what got attached, my xorg.conf specifies vesa > >> gfx driver .... > > That also sounds wrong. What kind of graphics card are > > you actually using? Typical answers: ATI, nVidia, Intel... > > Follow-up question: Did you install the -driver > > package (in case of nVidia: nvidia-driver)? > > > > > > AMD jaguar kabini CPU, GPU on die w/ CPU, not yet supported by X.org ..... No support with the ATI driver? That would have been my first guess. Anyway, "nvidia" as a driver is wrong in that case, and "vesa" should at least work, even if it doesn't provide sufficient 3D power. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 17:46:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80CE39F3 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4940121C6 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FHkIJT031013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:46:18 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE48E1.2000107@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:52:33 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194224.5e9fe5fd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140815194224.5e9fe5fd.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:46:22 -0000 On 08/15/14 12:42, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:33:52 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/15/14 12:24, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> open display: . >>> Huh? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. >>> Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's ~/.xinitrc or >>> ~/.xsession file (last line)? >>> >>> >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:26:31pm] 364 % cat .xinitrc >> exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:39pm] 365 % cat .xsession >> #! >> exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:45pm] 366 % > Okay, both look correct. But... the error message reads: > > Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. > ^ > > So it's "xfce4-session" (with a hyphen)? Check if the > specified binary does actually exist. If I remember > correctly, the Xfce 4 session manager is _really_ > xfce4-session, not startxfce4, and in case of using > HAL, or... erm... was it > > exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch xfce4-session > > I'm not sure anymore, those "modern" desktop environments > can be very complicated during their continuous evolution. > On HAL-infected systems, I usually relapse to use Gnome 2 > instead of Xfce because the newer versions include too > many things that don't work anymore. And it's not that > Gnome works flawlessly out of the box either... :-( > > > XFCE runs AOK from the startx command after a console login, so I think everything is AOK w/ startxfce4 & the rest of the install .... the recommendations for these 2 files came straight from Freebsd.org/docs, i.e. I found them online on freebsd.org. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 18:10:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64ECB42A for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24503255C for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26AE124A6F; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:10:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7FIAMOj002343; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:10:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:10:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140815201022.fe9dc564.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EE48E1.2000107@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194224.5e9fe5fd.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE48E1.2000107@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:10:24 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:52:33 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > XFCE runs AOK from the startx command after a console login, so I think > everything is AOK w/ startxfce4 & the rest of the install .... the > recommendations for these 2 files came straight from Freebsd.org/docs, > i.e. I found them online on freebsd.org. By using startx, ~/.xinitrc is being used. But if you use a display manager (usually xdm), this file is ignored and ~/.xsession is used instead. To avoid the "two files problem" and additionally make sure your C shell settings survive in X, use the following "cascading approach": Content of ~/.xsession: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc Make sure ~/.cshrc exists; if it's ~/.tcshrc, adjust the file name accordingly. Maybe specify #!/bin/tcsh. But I think this is not needed, even on newer FreeBSD versions, as it's tcsh anyway, and it has kept naming compatibility to the "old" csh. Content of ~/.xinitrc: #!/bin/sh # ... your other startup initializers here ... exec startxfce4 The first line of .xinitrc here is optional. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Invasion of Privacy issue. From: Freezone Herald To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:43:44 -0000 dear sir, My emails from this account are showing up l on the internet, apparently to anyone who types in my email name. After looking at this, I noticed several different pages, ask with links to more pages. LIKE THIS ONE, and the previous page that this page came with. That's when I noticed you link about "weird email" . I'm already mag at google for several reasons, including the photo app that accompanies the "google post" app, and automatically sent my photos to some place without telling telling me. Google had apparently been in trouble I several other countries for invasion of privacy issues, so when I saw you're link, I thought if write to you, and see if you might be able to help me with some suggestions, or referrals, or other possible avenues of approach to this growing problem, and maybe even send me the names of some expert specialists, who have experience with these types of crimes? Thank you very much for the time you take to read this, & for whatever help you might be able to send me !!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 20:51:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0B0EB95 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in7.apple.com (mail-out7.apple.com [17.151.62.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8813C28BF for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) (using TLS with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail-in7.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 15.9A.13396.CE27EE35; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:51:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay3.apple.com ([17.128.113.83]) by local.mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0NAD0049K8MAIEF1@local.mail-out.apple.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:51:56 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e16-f79bb6d000003454-83-53ee72ec2014 Received: from [17.149.230.8] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.230.8]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay3.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id C7.10.08757.FE27EE35; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: HELP ?? 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From: Charles Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:51:55 -0700 Message-id: <2165AC66-88E8-4322-B310-3CC576302086@mac.com> References: To: Freezone Herald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrHLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3OUPdN0btgg/2NEhYvv25icWD0mPFp PksAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXRuvtgoLznBXLlr1haWB8wt7FyMkhIWAisfHhLUYIW0ziwr31 bF2MXBxCArOYJFb1fAdL8AoISvyYfI+li5GDg1lAXuLgeVmQMLOAlsT3R60sEPVLmCR6dk5n hRn6Y9ciRohEN5NE3/NvTCAJYQF9iRsv2phBBrEJqElMmMgDEuYUCJb4/fcEC4jNIqAq8XbN TnaIBYoSO9rWgO3lFbCS+LxAHSQsJBAgsaB5GthpIgJGEg82zWWBWCsrcfrcc7B7JAQ+s0pM vPaWfQKj8CwkL8xCeGEWkhcWMDKvYhTKTczM0c3MM9dLLCjISdVLzs/dxAgJYLEdjA9XWR1i FOBgVOLhFRB/FyzEmlhWXJl7iFGag0VJnFfB8W2wkEB6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmrxIUYmDk6p BkbzeluT7OOiwXqdvtOuBsW5dXwvyqvdmVlZMeHCh+v+/7aZOv58wORa/bxryvlFfXJ3jmvd reWr32h8jVviMuvqne3nuV5fW1jyJfmA3vyIzNienoRIl6xQVcEZz6zVF8jkvtmYf2qd46vu eoFMUbNmaamiYM8/i22jsvdu/TJz7xvO7Xf1BZVYijMSDbWYi4oTAccAB0dBAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPUZh+77onfBBo2zxSxeft3EYnF3RboD k8eMT/NZPHbOussewBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlfHgnGfBJ86Kn48yGhg/sXcxcnJICJhI/Ni1 iBHCFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQQDeTRPf1BWAJZgEtiRv/XjJ1MXJw8AroSWz/JQcSFhbQl7jxoo0Z JMwmoCYxYSIPSJhTIFDi1of3rCA2i4CqxNs1O9khpihK7GhbwwJha0ssW/iaGcTmFbCS2HH0 DViNkECAxILmaWBbRQSMJB5smssCcZqsxOlzz1kmMPLPQnLQLISDZiGZuoCReRWjQFFqTmKl sV5iQUFOql5yfu4mRlCgNRQG72D8s8zqEKMAB6MSD6+A+LtgIdbEsuLK3EOMEhzMSiK8q9yA QrwpiZVVqUX58UWlOanFhxilOViUxHljPYBSAumJJanZqakFqUUwWSYOTqkGRtfo2tCb0Vev Tt0XfvHBjAJRu+++zmHZN26LLbdW2dr7cNmjF1d6UhbxRx3+wJp4/Ic9R+O9dWU1e1Kb61hT 3tQURy39wTdpJVfas04t8+/hAvd8Ag59MHp96E/QdH3jh9/2880s2LOyent80vvN3PL+3Bcn atTlemi9N/u3jvPbpdkv2S5+7FNiKc5INNRiLipOBADsEYEFMAIAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:51:57 -0000 On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Freezone Herald wrote: > My emails from this account are showing up l on the internet, apparently > to anyone who types in my email name. Yes. This is a public mailing list. > After looking at this, I noticed several different pages, ask with links to > more pages. LIKE THIS ONE, and the previous page that this page came > with. You're probably talking about the mailing list archives, such as: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2014-August/thread.html ...which are linked from the Mailman list page mentioned in the footer of list traffic, ie: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > I'm already mag at google for several reasons, including the photo app that > accompanies the "google post" app, and automatically sent my photos to > some place without telling telling me. That issue doesn't seem related to the FreeBSD lists. Basically, emailing this list is the equivalent of writing a letter to a newspaper. Once published, copies of that letter get delivered everywhere, including archives kept in local public libraries that anyone can lookup. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 20:56:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12014F7 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B17B7290E for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7FKu683086090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:56:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7FKu53K086087; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:56:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:56:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... In-Reply-To: <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:56:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:56:11 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Polytropon wrote: > And you could try this: > > exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4 > > This looks familiar to me. I prefer something simpler though. :-) The simpler version is exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 23:23:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E61D574A for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACCAE2A8F for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-19-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7FNNbAU013991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:23:37 -0500 Message-ID: <53EE97F0.3000304@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:29:52 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> <53EE4416.5090807@hiwaay.net> <20140815193657.b7a67359.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4749.5090000@hiwaay.net> <20140815194601.d0108283.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140815194601.d0108283.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:23:48 -0000 On 08/15/14 12:46, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:45:45 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/15/14 12:36, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:32:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> Hmmmm .... I don't know what got attached, my xorg.conf specifies vesa >>>> gfx driver .... >>> That also sounds wrong. What kind of graphics card are >>> you actually using? Typical answers: ATI, nVidia, Intel... >>> Follow-up question: Did you install the -driver >>> package (in case of nVidia: nvidia-driver)? >>> >>> >> AMD jaguar kabini CPU, GPU on die w/ CPU, not yet supported by X.org ..... > No support with the ATI driver? That would have been my first > guess. Anyway, "nvidia" as a driver is wrong in that case, > and "vesa" should at least work, even if it doesn't provide > sufficient 3D power. > > > xconfig didn't pick it out .... just because it's ATI doesn't mean it supports this new gfx set. I looked on X.org, & this GPU (Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]) isn't even mentioned, & the next 2 under it are listed as unsupported or partially supported .... No biggie, I expected that, & would guess they'll get on that soon .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 00:20:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 941DCDCD for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEC72002 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAD1946B0D for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s7G0KJtL037862 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:20:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s7G0KJ2w037859 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:20:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:20:19 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... In-Reply-To: <53EE97F0.3000304@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <53EE3C8D.3040008@hiwaay.net> <53EE4416.5090807@hiwaay.net> <20140815193657.b7a67359.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4749.5090000@hiwaay.net> <20140815194601.d0108283.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE97F0.3000304@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:20:19 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:20:21 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/15/14 12:46, Polytropon wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:45:45 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> On 08/15/14 12:36, Polytropon wrote: >>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:32:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>>> Hmmmm .... I don't know what got attached, my xorg.conf specifies vesa >>>>> gfx driver .... >>>> That also sounds wrong. What kind of graphics card are >>>> you actually using? Typical answers: ATI, nVidia, Intel... >>>> Follow-up question: Did you install the -driver >>>> package (in case of nVidia: nvidia-driver)? >>>> >>>> >>> AMD jaguar kabini CPU, GPU on die w/ CPU, not yet supported by X.org ..... >> No support with the ATI driver? That would have been my first >> guess. Anyway, "nvidia" as a driver is wrong in that case, >> and "vesa" should at least work, even if it doesn't provide >> sufficient 3D power. >> > > xconfig didn't pick it out .... just because it's ATI doesn't mean it > supports this new gfx set. I looked on X.org, & this GPU (Kabini [Radeon HD > 8280 / R3 Series]) isn't even mentioned, & the next 2 under it are listed as > unsupported or partially supported .... No biggie, I expected that, & would > guess they'll get on that soon .... > > -- This may be off point, I did not read the entire thread. If you want to use xdm with xfce you need to comment out the line in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config. The xfce (and Gnome folks also I guess) changed something in session management. I could not (easily) find the link but the change is by design. I use xdm with .session = #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 and its all good. I do not use hal, all you need do is to comment out Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" This is on 10.0 but I did similiar stuff on a 9.2. The xdm change came with xfce 4.8 (I think) but for sure with 4.10. As I recall from the writeup it is code they share with Gnome (again I think). Hope this helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 03:28:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E1F494B for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com (mail-lb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC1452213 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z11so2552272lbi.13 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:28:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=dNq97evf37rYKJYsx/yens3bFPio2xHrmfFb1LXbpK8=; b=DO392b1QfIrE8e7ESgKdE9/tAoJ4uJcUI4DuyOCiKFosai4ReS+CmzsM05xgGism95 rMQhOyshyq1A93DwJqsK11Jbv3cqq1bwyswXEaeDY5Gz2sJ8luw7h7oYnZGiSXjqbiyF dSYbYHMySSFR2u88MwdLeLdX2Dwr4XvyXIG+ejVPX1MPbQSKXefg9W4jUhzLCXx2jYJs fWT0O1j0qaX045OHMEtxUXavse0Db2ymIvCMLM6c7qijn4EO1sgPGQ7RKNXBw+wFBgrU 7Akbz2Ud/EU69gXMmvYdTBtqqU1904kaLj13sRoYatvFgpxoZU0ZZqXzE7EW2E30ZFmm pkPA== X-Received: by 10.152.9.100 with SMTP id y4mr15598876laa.26.1408159728468; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:28:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: argiopeweb@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.169.102 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Elliot Robinson Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:28:28 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: u-cd4iuqgafAjnX0GPn3YSjtGYo Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 10 w/ fresh root-on-ZFS fails to boot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:28:51 -0000 Good evening all, I'm attempting to install FreeBSD 10 from the memstick image. Installing with guided partitioning works and boots with no modifications, but I'd prefer to run ZFS. I've spent the last 6 hours pursuing that goal to no avail. Any assistance the group could offer would be greatly appreciated. So far I have attempted to install with root-on-ZFS with GPT and MBR, swap on and off, and 4k alignment on and off. I've also done some half-hearted playing with the loader.conf & etc after the install, but, since all the references I can find are focused on FreeBSD 9, I've come to the conclusion that the root-on-ZFS utility knows better than I what needs to be done. The only variable change which seems to have an effect is the GPT/MBR change. GPT gives: gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 1 gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 49 gptzfsboot: No ZFS pools located, can't boot after POST. MBR POSTs, then freezes with no output. As best I can tell with gpart, the partition table is effectively equivalent between guided and root-on-ZFS w/ GPT installs (with the obvious exception of the filesystem on ada0p2). Hardware platform is a 2009-era Dell Studio XPS with a Core2 Duo and 8GB RAM. Installation media is a 40GB OCZ Vertex II SSD. Best regards, --- Elliot Robinson PGP Key: 9FEDE59A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 06:49:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68E30DCB for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com (mail-wi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00F51250E for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id bs8so1630487wib.15 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:49:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o6t5Vf1nBwXcjDEiKXpIdPOSMDZFdp5JmVTyuY9bu4I=; b=Fvzc+0GKEKnu5S1+Mb3gHEf3JMa6Jcm3rPQNSgkbdGahKpnAZ9U9CnC5+XvDDNOJOr xelfhv6Q+FzHd44/3fccLk3kBvoSHQUwqScw8UKUHD5pXwJb4MeME39y3gCxxYnrpWY/ VNphOXTKAjb6mszihNS/d/glWf1IOsVW2k9zvkZ4njoR/r39wSoH1WITFbPZJZdIYixX VY8u5tJqmmKKOla5Vg+clXzw0cxEs4FruEzcaRbI4ygag7sm8idqWny+ckwH60Yp3rD3 GXrMXXV+SGxGb8C3orKEDj63QrM0xYyfEovVzn4lvp9sed4F3BW05kQBjkMakrak4poN L+VA== X-Received: by 10.180.92.38 with SMTP id cj6mr26515675wib.64.1408171792433; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-139-236-106.range86-139.btcentralplus.com. [86.139.236.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gl4sm14091928wib.19.2014.08.15.23.49.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EEFF0E.4060504@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:49:50 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 w/ fresh root-on-ZFS fails to boot References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:49:55 -0000 On 16/08/2014 04:28, Elliot Robinson wrote: > Good evening all, > I'm attempting to install FreeBSD 10 from the memstick image. Installing > with guided partitioning works and boots with no modifications, but I'd > prefer to run ZFS. I've spent the last 6 hours pursuing that goal to no > avail. Any assistance the group could offer would be greatly appreciated. > > So far I have attempted to install with root-on-ZFS with GPT and MBR, swap > on and off, and 4k alignment on and off. I've also done some half-hearted > playing with the loader.conf & etc after the install, but, since all the > references I can find are focused on FreeBSD 9, I've come to the conclusion > that the root-on-ZFS utility knows better than I what needs to be done. > > The only variable change which seems to have an effect is the GPT/MBR > change. GPT gives: > > gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 1 > gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 49 > gptzfsboot: No ZFS pools located, can't boot > > after POST. MBR POSTs, then freezes with no output. As best I can tell with > gpart, the partition table is effectively equivalent between guided and > root-on-ZFS w/ GPT installs (with the obvious exception of the filesystem > on ada0p2). > > Hardware platform is a 2009-era Dell Studio XPS with a Core2 Duo and 8GB > RAM. Installation media is a 40GB OCZ Vertex II SSD. > > Best regards, > > --- > Elliot Robinson > PGP Key: 9FEDE59A > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There are some good guides out there. I installed my FreeBSD 10, with zfs, using the installer and that was a year ago (I think) and still using it. 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[86.139.236.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fp6sm14174514wic.11.2014.08.15.23.56.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53EF00B2.3050908@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:56:50 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New xorg fails with "module ABI major version (6) doesn't match the server's version (12)" References: <2185120.2ReaZYee1X@curlew.lan> <53EC8763.7060708@gmail.com> <1884719.AVqlqasO54@curlew.lan> In-Reply-To: <1884719.AVqlqasO54@curlew.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:56:55 -0000 On 15/08/2014 16:30, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Thursday 14 August 2014 10:54:43 Jamie Griffin wrote: > >> This is simple to fix - run 'portmaster xf86-' and it will rebuild >> the drivers beginning with xf86- and will then match the servers >> version. >> >> For some reason when building the ports for new xorg the drivers >> built and installed are for an older version of xorg server as >> you've seen when checking pkg info. > Thanks, that fixed it. > > The odd thing is that neither pkg version nor portmaster gave any > indication that the drivers were out of date. All the packages for > xorg were installed in a single run of pkg install so I wouldd have > expected the new repository to have supplied all the relevant drivers. > > Portmaster just re-installed the drivers rather than upgrading them. > > ################################## > curlew:/root# portmaster xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa xf86-video- > nv xf86-input-keyboard > > ===>>> Working on: > xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 > xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 > xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 > xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 > > [snip] > > ===>>> The following actions were performed: > Installation of devel/pkgconf (pkgconf-0.9.6_1) > Installation of devel/xorg-macros (xorg-macros-1.19.0) > Installation of x11/glproto (glproto-1.4.17) > Installation of x11/resourceproto (resourceproto-1.2.0) > Installation of x11/xf86driproto (xf86driproto-2.1.1) > Re-installation of xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0_3 > Re-installation of xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_3 > Re-installation of xf86-video-nv-2.1.20_4 > Re-installation of xf86-input-keyboard-1.8.0_2 > ################################## > > But I still don't understand why pkg install failed to get the drivers > from the FreeBSD_new_xorg repository which does appear to have them. > > ################################## > curlew:/root# pkg rquery -r FreeBSD_new_xorg "%n %v" xf86-input-mouse\ > ? xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-nv xf86-input-keyboard > xf86-input-mouse 1.9.0_3 > xf86-video-vesa 2.3.3_3 > xf86-video-nv 2.1.20_4 > xf86-input-keyboard 1.8.0_2 > > ################################## > > In fact if I use "pkg install -r FreeBSD_new_xorg xf86-video-vesa" I > do get it from FreeBSD_new_xorg and X works fine with it. But without > the -r option it defaults to giving me the version from the FreeBSD > repository. > > And Sod's law appears to apply here - pkg install did get the ati and > intel video drivers from FreeBSD_new_xorg. Wrong versions of these > Would not have affected me. > Yeah I had exactly the same thing and was confused by that as well. I've stopped using pkg altogether for a while as its got issues. I had to remove all my packages and start over because it screwed everything up and it still won't install the KDE distribution; so i'm using my old friend fvwm2 for now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 07:06:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B98083B3 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from us.royaserver.com (unknown [162.223.89.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7163F26A7 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:06:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pahlevanzadeh.org; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID; bh=cr1gdy/fXKsD+AqSE5AcxTzQDlhxUZ6Alw1iRVBoF28=; b=h0EQBGUBbT9FGLLyyurQW4oNHPPaQUqV2aM5oUi8QiweaZTJU86PUm8yO34hVNL3iKvQ1if5zdJh5RgSJMN/Ww/WLqVJFR81sEJclNZ1hgOiArk6M8a54pfjhEDz0KaPsf/SSz8G8RcXX42xTklPUr9dMnm0HCO7AT5V76uk6qI=; Received: from [91.98.199.64] (port=35113 helo=debian) by us.royaserver.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XIY3n-002LKn-Jv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:35:56 +0430 Message-ID: <1408172733.5441.9.camel@debian> Subject: buildworld and next kernel compilation From: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:35:33 +0430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.2-1+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - us.royaserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pahlevanzadeh.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: us.royaserver.com: authenticated_id: mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:06:04 -0000 Dear BSD man, Suppose i compile my kernel via: /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/10 /usr/src svn up /usr/src cd /usr/src make buildworld ### edit my MYKERNELCONF make kernel KERNELCONF=MYKERNELCONF shutdown -r now ### boot via single user and use the following commands: mount -u / mount -a -t ufs #my fs is ufs swapon -a adjkerntz -i mergemaster -p cd /usr/src make installworld mergemaster -iF make delete-old reboot make delete-old-libs /////////////////////////////////// My question: suppose i need to again compile my kernel and add fooobar, What do you suggesst procedure for compilation according to i compile once? Yours, Mohsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 07:49:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B12F1DED for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41ACB2A16 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XIYjN-0006wj-3C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:48:53 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.127]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:48:53 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:48:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: buildworld and next kernel compilation Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:48:31 -0400 Lines: 72 Message-ID: References: <1408172733.5441.9.camel@debian> Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 07:49:14 -0000 Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > Dear BSD man, > > Suppose i compile my kernel via: > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/10 /usr/src > svn up /usr/src > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > ### edit my MYKERNELCONF > make kernel KERNELCONF=MYKERNELCONF > shutdown -r now > ### boot via single user and use the following commands: > mount -u / > mount -a -t ufs #my fs is ufs > swapon -a > adjkerntz -i > mergemaster -p > cd /usr/src > make installworld > mergemaster -iF > make delete-old > reboot > make delete-old-libs > /////////////////////////////////// > > My question: suppose i need to again compile my kernel and add fooobar, > What do you suggesst procedure for compilation according to i compile > once? > > First, I cd to /usr/obj and rm -rf usr and rm -rf lib32 so there is no cruft left over from any previous build. In other words, blow away everything under /usr/obj. I believe there is a target for doing this but haven't tried that approach in a very long time. I think it's something like doing a make clean in /usr/src which accomplishes the same thing. IIRC doing make kernel combines both make buildkernel and make installkernel into one operation; I just prefer to do one at a time as a purely personal quirk. The choice depends on whether any source code has changed, e.g. if you have done another svn up /usr/src then you will want to do the whole make buildworld/installword thing again or your kernel and userland will become out of sync with each other. If there has been no update, the source tree is the same as before with no change (other than an edit to a kernelconf file) then you can simply just do a make buildkernel, make installkernel, and reboot (or combine with make kernel). What you don't want to have happen is a kernel that has been built from sources that differ from what world was built from. As long as the source is the same you can just build new kernel(s) and install without having to do anything else. Couple of hints here too: each time you build a new kernel the current running kernel will be moved to kernel.old. This allows for to boot to kernel.old should you somehow install a defective kernel. Note that if you were to somehow get into the situation where you somehow built two kernels in a row that were bad you will have lost the first kernel.old that was a working kernel. It's kind of an odd situation to get into and isn't really very likely, but the possibility is there. The make delete-old-libs (last line above) is something you need to be careful with. It isn't really needed in a minor revision update such as upgrading from 9.2 to 9.3 because the ABI has not changed and all your installed ports are still linked against the same library versions. However, this situation is different when a major update takes place, e.g. an upgrade from 9.x to 10.x will require you to rebuild all the ports so they link against the new library version bumps. Do NOT run the make delete-old-libs until AFTER successfully rebuilding all installed applications. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 09:06:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78D20DCE for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BC2621F2 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7G96gXo067163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:06:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7G96fKf067160; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:06:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:06:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Elliot Robinson Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 w/ fresh root-on-ZFS fails to boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:06:47 -0000 On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Elliot Robinson wrote: > Good evening all, > I'm attempting to install FreeBSD 10 from the memstick image. Installing > with guided partitioning works and boots with no modifications, but I'd > prefer to run ZFS. I've spent the last 6 hours pursuing that goal to no > avail. Any assistance the group could offer would be greatly appreciated. > > So far I have attempted to install with root-on-ZFS with GPT and MBR, swap > on and off, and 4k alignment on and off. I've also done some half-hearted > playing with the loader.conf & etc after the install, but, since all the > references I can find are focused on FreeBSD 9, I've come to the conclusion > that the root-on-ZFS utility knows better than I what needs to be done. > > The only variable change which seems to have an effect is the GPT/MBR > change. GPT gives: > > gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 1 > gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 49 > gptzfsboot: No ZFS pools located, can't boot > > after POST. MBR POSTs, then freezes with no output. As best I can tell with > gpart, the partition table is effectively equivalent between guided and > root-on-ZFS w/ GPT installs (with the obvious exception of the filesystem > on ada0p2). > > Hardware platform is a 2009-era Dell Studio XPS with a Core2 Duo and 8GB > RAM. Installation media is a 40GB OCZ Vertex II SSD. The error suggests a hardware failure, bad blocks on the SSD. If the SSD supports SMART, can it pass a short or extended test? Otherwise, there might be vendor testing software. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 11:00:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B595854E for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 788182D11 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3DE625386; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:00:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7GB06Ha001926; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:00:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:00:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh Subject: Re: buildworld and next kernel compilation Message-Id: <20140816130006.ed1b678d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1408172733.5441.9.camel@debian> References: <1408172733.5441.9.camel@debian> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:11 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:35:33 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > Dear BSD man, > > Suppose i compile my kernel via: > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/10 /usr/src > svn up /usr/src > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > ### edit my MYKERNELCONF > make kernel KERNELCONF=MYKERNELCONF ^^ I assume you have correctly used KERNCONF=MYKERNELCONF. The variable KERN*EL*KONF will be ignored and GENERIC will be used. The rest of your procedure looks correct. > My question: suppose i need to again compile my kernel and add fooobar, > What do you suggesst procedure for compilation according to i compile > once? I'd suggest to use the following approach in multi-user mode: # cd /usr/src # make clean ... edit configuration file ... # make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNELCONF # reboot Note that "make kernel" is short for "make buildkernel" followed by "make installkernel", but that's what you need, so it's less typing. :-) As you didn't change version numbers (new checkout of sources), kernel and world version are still in sync. This is a requirement. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 11:21:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2780C85E for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (smtprelay-h22.telenor.se [195.54.99.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A07542E70 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3BFC221 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:20:58 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4LAPY971NT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYFoJ3U1fNUQIdCocFUwGBChcFAQEBATg2hAQBAQEDAQEBSwgYCxALGAklDwUTAQUECAoaCAcEARwEiCUBCMM2F457AQFPB4MvgR0FjxKGOYN1gwEBgVeXBjsvAQaBCIFAAQEB X-IPAS-Result: Aq4LAPY971NT4+F5PGdsb2JhbABYFoJ3U1fNUQIdCocFUwGBChcFAQEBATg2hAQBAQEDAQEBSwgYCxALGAklDwUTAQUECAoaCAcEARwEiCUBCMM2F457AQFPB4MvgR0FjxKGOYN1gwEBgVeXBjsvAQaBCIFAAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,876,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="58695121" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 16 Aug 2014 13:20:41 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7GBKgIk048859 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:20:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from hasse@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s7GBKgpR048858; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:20:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hasse) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:20:42 +0200 From: Hasse Hansson To: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh Subject: Re: buildworld and next kernel compilation Message-ID: <20140816112042.GA42322@ymer.thorshammare.org> References: <1408172733.5441.9.camel@debian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1408172733.5441.9.camel@debian> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:21:34 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:35:33AM +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > Dear BSD man, >=20 > Suppose i compile my kernel via: >=20 > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/10 /usr/src > svn up /usr/src > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > ### edit my MYKERNELCONF > make kernel KERNELCONF=3DMYKERNELCONF > shutdown -r now > ### boot via single user and use the following commands: > mount -u / > mount -a -t ufs #my fs is ufs > swapon -a > adjkerntz -i > mergemaster -p > cd /usr/src > make installworld > mergemaster -iF > make delete-old > reboot > make delete-old-libs > /////////////////////////////////// >=20 > My question: suppose i need to again compile my kernel and add fooobar, > What do you suggesst procedure for compilation according to i compile > once? >=20 >=20 > Yours, > Mohsen >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Hello. Two excellent guides that will answer your questions : http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/kernelconfig.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/buildworld.html All the Best Hasse --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT7z6KAAoJEOmXrgbZ1M7s0IUIAID0YUv+ZdHLasPeAuZog6Rj a41mxalrSZDmUtoEBSz4wjqiRESwvO2GGiauLaGeG4GNyLdvjFq/myP1NiEvVUEy W8afGYGmr4/ZrPe9EqkdPqKAkI55cEgXVWAyr6r0atTQlw0aL3CDyV2Bz6GSXzsB Byeyz2zr3AteuTfCGrEREpZlQwN+VP2ZRylsctMcN0gsvXoX4pJSksUx1J1UUSw3 LtRZXeagjk+HYXDX+gxyv7KqIudkNmTBofTxUITW8ZgSxzvz8NdeuKR17QF/OMI7 X4UhgL+m2e4jGrnfdyTEYNf6lvni7XPe3AiaYWZqTVn/bEa5tGw7TrgWLe46ojs= =Z33d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 11:44:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91EECEB0 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A6DE21A9 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-149.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7GBiQt8017960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:44:27 -0500 Message-ID: <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:50:42 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:44:31 -0000 On 08/15/14 12:44, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:33:52 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/15/14 12:24, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> open display: . >>> Huh? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. >>> Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's ~/.xinitrc or >>> ~/.xsession file (last line)? >>> >>> >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:26:31pm] 364 % cat .xinitrc >> exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:39pm] 365 % cat .xsession >> #! >> exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 >> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:45pm] 366 % > Oh, and note that the first line "#!" is nonsense. Use "#!/bin/sh". > Can probably be omitted. > > And you could try this: > > exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4 > > This looks familiar to me. I prefer something simpler though. :-) > Good catch on the bad '#!' line, I fixed that & still nogo .... someone later suggested some alterations to some of the xdm config files .... at this point, I've pretty much given up on it, I just do a console login, then type startx & all is well. I normally stay logged in for long periods (weeks/months), so this doesn't come up often .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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From: Matt Bettinger To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:02:57 -0000 25 emails to use a FreeBSD desktop... Just use windows or linux On Aug 16, 2014 6:44 AM, "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > > On 08/15/14 12:44, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:33:52 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> On 08/15/14 12:24, Polytropon wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>>> open display: . >>>>> >>>> Huh? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. >>>>> >>>> Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's ~/.xinitrc or >>>> ~/.xsession file (last line)? >>>> >>>> >>>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:26:31pm] 364 % cat .xinitrc >>> exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 >>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:39pm] 365 % cat .xsession >>> #! >>> exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 >>> [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:45pm] 366 % >>> >> Oh, and note that the first line "#!" is nonsense. Use "#!/bin/sh". >> Can probably be omitted. >> >> And you could try this: >> >> exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4 >> >> This looks familiar to me. I prefer something simpler though. :-) >> >> > Good catch on the bad '#!' line, I fixed that & still nogo .... someone > later suggested some alterations to some of the xdm config files .... at > this point, I've pretty much given up on it, I just do a console login, > then type startx & all is well. I normally stay logged in for long periods > (weeks/months), so this doesn't come up often .... > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 12:21:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69BF196A for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29963264A for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EB5B3CC95; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:21:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7GCLK1w002017; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:21:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:21:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140816142119.c08d7b44.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:21:24 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:50:42 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > [...] I just do a console login, > then type startx & all is well. I normally stay logged in for long > periods (weeks/months), so this doesn't come up often .... You _could_ add the following to your ~/.login file: [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx The test against the lock file will make sure that further console logins won't try to start a second instance of X. But I think I would not advice to do this, I'd just like to mention that it's possible (and part of my "auto-login with X" setup). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 14:34:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40C9A276 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "pukruppa.de", Issuer "pukruppa.de" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD8E02252 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7GENr1t053219 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:23:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Message-ID: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:23:53 +0200 From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sh stdout/stderr redirection problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:34:23 -0000 Hi, I have got a python3.4 script which I can start from an rc.d script as a daemon this way: daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py produces interesting messages on stdout and stderr, so I would like to collect them in /var/log/my.log . I have tried all kinds of combinations of >>'s and 2>&1's but either I catch daemon's output which is nothing or the script won't start anymore. Any ideas? - Thanks for your help Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 14:54:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB3525E2 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E13C24EF for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB0A02761F; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:54:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7GEskhX002672; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:54:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:54:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa Subject: Re: sh stdout/stderr redirection problem Message-Id: <20140816165446.db6aefc6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> References: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:54:51 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:23:53 +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > Hi, > > I have got a python3.4 script which I can start from an rc.d script as a > daemon this way: > > daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py > > > /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py produces interesting messages on > stdout and stderr, so I would like to collect them in /var/log/my.log . > I have tried all kinds of combinations of >>'s and 2>&1's but either I > catch daemon's output which is nothing or the script won't start anymore. > > Any ideas? - Thanks for your help Idea: # ( daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py ) > /tmp/myscript.log 2>&1 You can use ( ... ) to "summarize" subshell outputs, but in your case using _script_ is probably the easiest method. It will capture all output written to the terminal (stdout and stderr). See "man script" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 15:58:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04F7C9BA for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDB5129C2 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-149.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7GFw3bW020333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:58:03 -0500 Message-ID: <53EF8102.3010406@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:04:18 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:58:07 -0000 On 08/16/14 07:02, Matt Bettinger wrote: Touche :-/ .... Actually, 20-ish of Linux is part of the problem, lotta stuff to unlearn or relearn .... > 25 emails to use a FreeBSD desktop... Just use windows or linux > > On Aug 16, 2014 6:44 AM, "William A. Mahaffey III" > wrote: > > > On 08/15/14 12:44, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:33:52 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/15/14 12:24, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:11:06 -0500, William A. > Mahaffey III wrote: > > open display: . > > Huh? > > > > Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. > > Do you have "exec xfce4-session" in your user's > ~/.xinitrc or > ~/.xsession file (last line)? > > > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:26:31pm] 364 % cat .xinitrc > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:39pm] 365 % cat .xsession > #! > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 > [wam@kabini1, ~, 12:32:45pm] 366 % > > Oh, and note that the first line "#!" is nonsense. Use > "#!/bin/sh". > Can probably be omitted. > > And you could try this: > > exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4 > > This looks familiar to me. I prefer something simpler though. :-) > > > Good catch on the bad '#!' line, I fixed that & still nogo .... > someone later suggested some alterations to some of the xdm config > files .... at this point, I've pretty much given up on it, I just > do a console login, then type startx & all is well. I normally > stay logged in for long periods (weeks/months), so this doesn't > come up often .... > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 16:02:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3073B4A for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com (mail-pa0-f45.google.com [209.85.220.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71F832A79 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id eu11so5129976pac.4 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:02:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:mail-followup-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=VsShX5IU3aJYM001DC1Arn17mSovSDnvbijIfwbIWhc=; b=J+63LI0vxxdFXERIRn1dNFg2Q/ue/mFLINlmyLF2bW/VDsB0oqfOXM3jzluIWSHmUE EANx6BQ/k7ge89fct7eKYkuuJImA7yL1EOX1caHIv2CXzHB3Ia1nGfPaODD8I721gA8T SUth3aXDnlIONgP4/hFCtTywUP1cDChEqylxp0/BgdkUoYKlF0d9GSoi7EAik62zxO22 xR24xbJc5nXp6VuopAb4t3z8H7PgkAywyzhuCrr9G6dtHwPuB0F8nBXYgniuvL1NLxu2 P6r3zdF76UPH7TD3whVf8i/H3Apr9CXa3fND3z/v/n0ZquhsJX2in+QDvqv0yyIBUdtc gnQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnqhynXMdLJ5MbneRkmnxwN2d3Mm7P6m3kUyPrlKuKzC9Dqbo3FsYYy76EZ4C+22d85vfkF X-Received: by 10.66.232.166 with SMTP id tp6mr21038011pac.127.1408204928239; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elk.localnet ([2604:8800:100:82aa:6ef0:49ff:fe05:658b]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l3sm11210303pbq.8.2014.08.16.09.02.07 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XIgQc-00026s-UL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:02:02 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:02:02 -0700 In-Reply-To: <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> (William A. Mahaffey, III's message of "Sat, 16 Aug 2014 06:50:42 -0500") Message-ID: <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:02:15 -0000 "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > .... someone later suggested some alterations to some of the xdm > config files .... at this point, I've pretty much given up on it, I > just do a console login, then type startx & all is well. I normally > stay logged in for long periods (weeks/months), so this doesn't come > up often .... I had also given up on running xdm with xfce on 10.0. I copied a running configuration from 9.1 but it refused to work with 10.0. I tried just a bare xterm and jwm and both work with xdm, so it appears to be xfce. Similar to others, I just have my .bash_profile run startx automatically, but in my case only when `tty` = /dev/ttyv3. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 16:31:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FDBC117 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CFB12D55 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B82F3CCDD; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:31:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7GGVB0A003104; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:31:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:31:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Carl Johnson Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "William A. Mahaffey III" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:31:15 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:02:02 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > > > .... someone later suggested some alterations to some of the xdm > > config files .... at this point, I've pretty much given up on it, I > > just do a console login, then type startx & all is well. I normally > > stay logged in for long periods (weeks/months), so this doesn't come > > up often .... > > I had also given up on running xdm with xfce on 10.0. I copied a > running configuration from 9.1 but it refused to work with 10.0. I > tried just a bare xterm and jwm and both work with xdm, so it appears to > be xfce. Similar to others, I just have my .bash_profile run startx > automatically, but in my case only when `tty` = /dev/ttyv3. I don't know ehy, but this sounds totally wrong. :-/ I've been using xdm for a long time because it's simple to set up, fast, and secure. I have also used Xfce because it was easy to set up, sufficiently fast, and had useful features. This combination doesn't seem to work anymore. For one point, I switched to gdm + Gnome 2 (but gdm doesn't start anything that's _not_ Gnome, so a "Gnome only party" there), for the other, kept using xdm, but with WindowMaker for my home desktop. An alternative to xdm with a similar look and feel is wdm, the WindowMaker display manager, which almost looks like the Solaris/CDE login manager. Maybe it's worth trying this one? It even supports easily switching desktops or window managers for an account (e. g., login user "foo" and start Xfce session, or start Fluxbox session instead). Regarding xdm configuration: Fiddling with files in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm sounds terrible. I have to admit that I'm using custom settings for xdm, but the correct places for such changes probably are /etc/X11/xdm or at least /usr/local/etc/xdm (because those are places where configuration files are located that are subject to the usual versioning and backup processes). I have decided to keep the stuff in /etc/X11/xdm (because xorg.conf also is in /etc/X11) and create symlinks from the original location to where I put _my_ configuration files (which are backed up and under version control). But I don't use Xfce anymore, nor do I recommend it. Yes, I know, this is sad, because I actually liked Xfce (and even XFCE, version 3, the nice CDE-lookalike that still runs on on one of my backup machines). Why did I abandon Xfce? Because it's not "portable enough" anymore. It's a "mostly Linux" desktop environment where the attempt of running it on FreeBSD leads to despair - it's not trivial to set up anymore, and functionality is lacking. If you want something lightweight, maybe consider LXDE, or get rid of a desktop at all (and use a window manager instead). If you want "all the features", go with Gnome. Or if you're a KDE person (I'm not), use KDE. It's not that it works out of the box in every aspect (as it used to be in the good old days), primarily because this is ported software coming from Linux, which is a different operating system, but chances are good that you get the most things working. If you're _really_ good, you even can get automounting to run halfway as intended. It's not that _I_ would want to use the abomination I've created to make this possible, but my users (who wanted a Gnome desktop in a single-user manner) seem to be happy with it. I can't even tell you how I did it, but definitely not like the Handbook and FAQ told me to, because it didn't work. Somehow, I god an automounter port involved as well as replacing the umount program with a stupid script, but... Things got slower, more bloated, crashed more often and were unmaintainable in essential or simple parts (like changing the mouse cursor to a normal black color, or changing keyboard bindings). I admit that this is normal, and the logical reason of the software evolution process (at least I have been told that this is the truth). But I don't like it. When I have newer hardware and newer software, I want things to be faster and easier, not slower and more complicated. I even want that on the _same_ hardware - and for _many_ FreeBSD applications and especially for the FreeBSD operating system, THIS IS TRUE! The more complex modern software becomes, the more complicated it seems to get easy things working. Or maybe I'm just too stupid. But personally, I learned to prefer simple things for simple tasks, and get rid of the "one size fits all" desktop metaphor. Not because it's bad per se, but because it just doesn't work. Summary: Replace xdm with wdm. Replace Xfce with LXDE. Or replace the whole stuff with gdm + Gnome 2. Or with KDE, if you feel you like KDE. So much for today's session of "blame-the-program seizure", thanks for your time and attention. I will now receive the proper medication and become silent, calm, and ignorant, just as the society prefers me to be. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 16:44:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 965BC529 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C17A2E6F for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-149.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7GGiDrc021172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:44:13 -0500 Message-ID: <53EF8BD4.3060609@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:50:28 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:44:14 -0000 On 08/16/14 11:31, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:02:02 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: >> "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: >> >>> .... someone later suggested some alterations to some of the xdm >>> config files .... at this point, I've pretty much given up on it, I >>> just do a console login, then type startx & all is well. I normally >>> stay logged in for long periods (weeks/months), so this doesn't come >>> up often .... >> I had also given up on running xdm with xfce on 10.0. I copied a >> running configuration from 9.1 but it refused to work with 10.0. I >> tried just a bare xterm and jwm and both work with xdm, so it appears to >> be xfce. Similar to others, I just have my .bash_profile run startx >> automatically, but in my case only when `tty` = /dev/ttyv3. > I don't know ehy, but this sounds totally wrong. :-/ > > I've been using xdm for a long time because it's simple to > set up, fast, and secure. I have also used Xfce because it > was easy to set up, sufficiently fast, and had useful features. > This combination doesn't seem to work anymore. For one point, > I switched to gdm + Gnome 2 (but gdm doesn't start anything > that's _not_ Gnome, so a "Gnome only party" there), for the > other, kept using xdm, but with WindowMaker for my home > desktop. > > An alternative to xdm with a similar look and feel is wdm, > the WindowMaker display manager, which almost looks like the > Solaris/CDE login manager. Maybe it's worth trying this one? > It even supports easily switching desktops or window managers > for an account (e. g., login user "foo" and start Xfce session, > or start Fluxbox session instead). > > Regarding xdm configuration: > > Fiddling with files in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm sounds terrible. > I have to admit that I'm using custom settings for xdm, but > the correct places for such changes probably are /etc/X11/xdm > or at least /usr/local/etc/xdm (because those are places where > configuration files are located that are subject to the usual > versioning and backup processes). I have decided to keep the > stuff in /etc/X11/xdm (because xorg.conf also is in /etc/X11) > and create symlinks from the original location to where I > put _my_ configuration files (which are backed up and under > version control). > > But I don't use Xfce anymore, nor do I recommend it. Yes, I > know, this is sad, because I actually liked Xfce (and even > XFCE, version 3, the nice CDE-lookalike that still runs on > on one of my backup machines). > > Why did I abandon Xfce? Because it's not "portable enough" > anymore. It's a "mostly Linux" desktop environment where the > attempt of running it on FreeBSD leads to despair - it's not > trivial to set up anymore, and functionality is lacking. If > you want something lightweight, maybe consider LXDE, or get > rid of a desktop at all (and use a window manager instead). > If you want "all the features", go with Gnome. Or if you're > a KDE person (I'm not), use KDE. It's not that it works > out of the box in every aspect (as it used to be in the > good old days), primarily because this is ported software > coming from Linux, which is a different operating system, > but chances are good that you get the most things working. > If you're _really_ good, you even can get automounting to > run halfway as intended. It's not that _I_ would want to > use the abomination I've created to make this possible, but > my users (who wanted a Gnome desktop in a single-user manner) > seem to be happy with it. I can't even tell you how I did > it, but definitely not like the Handbook and FAQ told me to, > because it didn't work. Somehow, I god an automounter port > involved as well as replacing the umount program with a > stupid script, but... > > Things got slower, more bloated, crashed more often and > were unmaintainable in essential or simple parts (like > changing the mouse cursor to a normal black color, or > changing keyboard bindings). I admit that this is normal, > and the logical reason of the software evolution process > (at least I have been told that this is the truth). But > I don't like it. When I have newer hardware and newer > software, I want things to be faster and easier, not > slower and more complicated. I even want that on the _same_ > hardware - and for _many_ FreeBSD applications and especially > for the FreeBSD operating system, THIS IS TRUE! > > The more complex modern software becomes, the more complicated > it seems to get easy things working. Or maybe I'm just too > stupid. But personally, I learned to prefer simple things > for simple tasks, and get rid of the "one size fits all" > desktop metaphor. Not because it's bad per se, but because > it just doesn't work. > > Summary: Replace xdm with wdm. Replace Xfce with LXDE. Or > replace the whole stuff with gdm + Gnome 2. Or with KDE, > if you feel you like KDE. > > So much for today's session of "blame-the-program seizure", > thanks for your time and attention. I will now receive the > proper medication and become silent, calm, and ignorant, > just as the society prefers me to be. :-) > > *Hear, hear, hear !!!!* -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 16:52:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E466489F for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93B492007 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (rbn1-216-180-76-149.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s7GGq229025933 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:52:02 -0500 Message-ID: <53EF8DA9.7030309@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:58:17 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: how to import firefox history from old machine .... References: <53EE3A63.8060309@hiwaay.net> <20140815192803.4cef2056.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140815192803.4cef2056.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:52:07 -0000 On 08/15/14 12:28, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:50:43 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> I have 1 more vexing task: I want to import my history data for firefox >> from my old desktop. Whenever I open the history dialog to do that & >> select import from HTML, it threatens to overwrite bookmarks, not >> history data .... FF bug ? Any workarounds ? > You have the ~/.mozilla/firefox/ subtree to examine. Also > have a look for import / export functions inside Firefox: > You probably have been using the function to import the > history _as bookmarks_, which isn't what you want. So > maybe it's easier to identify the history file within > the source subtree and copy it to the destination subtree, > while Firefox is not running. But sadly I can't tell you > which file that would exactly be... > > > > It *always* tries to overwrite bookmarks, even when invoked from history dialog .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 16:53:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9766931 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x235.google.com (mail-lb0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E10A2016 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 10so2817298lbg.26 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:53:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=7SHEoxDjvVq+kmsh3M/dcsI7z+znafp8KUllXxUYJpc=; b=UOPfSwBHiZ8R/9v0AhifHmhwrvzK+6zhYav2qjI5Qa1wkIVyjaIpL1hFzgQ7GNnOGd H/358F0f9ZA3q3XvDYEGUezwIsNxlMeaLBy+G4GJmzTiGM56C0il266hFO8tUhParj0E jxE/72s23Xq9g6FFYmB5q/MI2wRuzXhgSoJHwMRaKHxQagqRGG9AjOnUg6Jlz7a9rKqC sZ1mHDtlZve6EMcX83NoRI70qSE5BcJo8/CXry+rvYWA+2uZ5m0Oc6mCv5EMIMVhB+Nt EBLowD3mXDTzcg4Qhh775zcACy3pky2te0RAcgLcSBEMDMPPi7yj5nPHA9t9ZLd7cVYC Nh2g== X-Received: by 10.112.204.164 with SMTP id kz4mr17730820lbc.15.1408207982965; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: argiopeweb@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.169.102 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Elliot Robinson Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:52:42 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PDaOQ8BZSwfqukiInuRQXDJzSOQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 w/ fresh root-on-ZFS fails to boot To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:53:06 -0000 Passes short, testing long. I doubt it's the disk, as the Guided install (UFS) consistently works with a partition table on the same sectors. I reinstalled it after the ZFS trials and before writing the email, just to be sure). I booted into whatever was on there before (9.1 maybe?) prior to putting 10 from the guided install on, so that also worked. --- Elliot Robinson PGP Key: 9FEDE59A On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Elliot Robinson wrote: > > Good evening all, >> I'm attempting to install FreeBSD 10 from the memstick image. Installing >> with guided partitioning works and boots with no modifications, but I'd >> prefer to run ZFS. I've spent the last 6 hours pursuing that goal to no >> avail. Any assistance the group could offer would be greatly appreciated. >> >> So far I have attempted to install with root-on-ZFS with GPT and MBR, swap >> on and off, and 4k alignment on and off. I've also done some half-hearted >> playing with the loader.conf & etc after the install, but, since all the >> references I can find are focused on FreeBSD 9, I've come to the >> conclusion >> that the root-on-ZFS utility knows better than I what needs to be done. >> >> The only variable change which seems to have an effect is the GPT/MBR >> change. GPT gives: >> >> gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 1 >> gptzfsboot: error 1 lba 49 >> gptzfsboot: No ZFS pools located, can't boot >> >> after POST. MBR POSTs, then freezes with no output. As best I can tell >> with >> gpart, the partition table is effectively equivalent between guided and >> root-on-ZFS w/ GPT installs (with the obvious exception of the filesystem >> on ada0p2). >> >> Hardware platform is a 2009-era Dell Studio XPS with a Core2 Duo and 8GB >> RAM. Installation media is a 40GB OCZ Vertex II SSD. >> > > The error suggests a hardware failure, bad blocks on the SSD. If the SSD > supports SMART, can it pass a short or extended test? Otherwise, there > might be vendor testing software. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 17:32:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D1D2590 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0B7F2425 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.96.38.167] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XIhb1-0004Dn-U3; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:16:52 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" Subject: Re: sh stdout/stderr redirection problem References: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:16:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <53EF6979.2080708@pukruppa.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.4/19286/Sat Aug 16 06:42:47 2014) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:32:03 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:23:53 +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > Hi, > > I have got a python3.4 script which I can start from an rc.d script as a > daemon this way: > > daemon -p /var/run/my.pid /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py > > > /path/to/python3.4 /path/to/myscript.py produces interesting messages on > stdout and stderr, so I would like to collect them in /var/log/my.log . > I have tried all kinds of combinations of >>'s and 2>&1's but either I > catch daemon's output which is nothing or the script won't start anymore. > > Any ideas? - Thanks for your help > > Peter You could do the redirection in your python script: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4675728/redirect-stdout-to-a-file-in-python Basically, import sys f=open('logfile','w') def redirect(msg): f.write(msg) sys.stdout=redirect sys.stderr=redirect Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 18:29:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C9BA57D for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE3F2886 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF13946B0C; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s7GITkTv063602; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s7GITk12063597; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:46 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... In-Reply-To: <53EF8BD4.3060609@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF8BD4.3060609@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:29:54 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/16/14 11:31, Polytropon wrote: [cut] >> An alternative to xdm with a similar look and feel is wdm, >> the WindowMaker display manager, which almost looks like the >> Solaris/CDE login manager. Maybe it's worth trying this one? >> It even supports easily switching desktops or window managers >> for an account (e. g., login user "foo" and start Xfce session, >> or start Fluxbox session instead). >> >> Regarding xdm configuration: >> >> Fiddling with files in /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm sounds terrible. >> I have to admit that I'm using custom settings for xdm, but >> the correct places for such changes probably are /etc/X11/xdm >> or at least /usr/local/etc/xdm (because those are places where >> configuration files are located that are subject to the usual >> versioning and backup processes). I have decided to keep the >> stuff in /etc/X11/xdm (because xorg.conf also is in /etc/X11) >> and create symlinks from the original location to where I >> put _my_ configuration files (which are backed up and under >> version control). Note that the Xorg folks recommend this is the way to do it: tail -11 xdm-config DisplayManager*session: /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession DisplayManager*reset: /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xreset DisplayManager*authComplain: true ! The following three resources set up display :0 as the console. DisplayManager._0.setup: /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 DisplayManager._0.startup: /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/GiveConsole DisplayManager._0.reset: /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/TakeConsole DisplayManager*loginmoveInterval: 10 ! SECURITY: do not listen for XDMCP or Chooser requests ! Comment out this line if you want to manage X terminals with xdm DisplayManager.requestPort: 0 But this is one of the great things about open source. If you do not like something you can almost always find something that suits you better. I like kde3.5 and did not like kde4. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 19:03:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A39B9A54 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D4462BC3 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7GJ39GX014925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s7GJ372J014922; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... In-Reply-To: <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:09 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Carl Johnson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "William A. Mahaffey III" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:03:20 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Polytropon wrote: > Why did I abandon Xfce? Because it's not "portable enough" > anymore. It's a "mostly Linux" desktop environment where the > attempt of running it on FreeBSD leads to despair - it's not > trivial to set up anymore, and functionality is lacking. I don't understand this. xfce works quite well for me. There is no automounter, and a few years back, I wrote one. But doing that well is non-trivial, so I just manually mount things now. Otherwise, I can't think of much that xfce does not do. It does not have preferences settings for positioning multiple monitors, which I think is nothing to do with FreeBSD. LXDE might be fine, it's been a while since I tried it. Back then, it did not seem to have an integrated way of handling desktop icons. For me, that's not a big deal, but I tend to look at minimal desktops as something to give to ex-Windows users. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 19:35:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5343D329 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF1882ED0 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC56525386; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7GJZ6h6001901; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:35:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:35:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140816213506.cc867917.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <53EBE6D6.8090501@hiwaay.net> <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:35:17 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:07 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Polytropon wrote: > > > Why did I abandon Xfce? Because it's not "portable enough" > > anymore. It's a "mostly Linux" desktop environment where the > > attempt of running it on FreeBSD leads to despair - it's not > > trivial to set up anymore, and functionality is lacking. > > I don't understand this. xfce works quite well for me. I've been using Xfce on Linux and in my (very individual and non-comparable) experience it works much better there. > There is no > automounter, and a few years back, I wrote one. But doing that well is > non-trivial, so I just manually mount things now. I started with the HAL/DBnus/whahtever automount approach that is suggested in many howtos (and among the justifications on why HAL is needed), but it didn't work. Then I switched to Gnome and it also didn't work. After that, I did install some automounter from the ports, that somehow started working, but didn't unmount (and eject) media, so I "rewrote" umount - with a script. Now it works. But don't ask me how and why. :-) The old XFCE 3 desktop had "mount wrappers" - xfmount and xfumount, which mounted media when accessed, opened a file browser, and after closing that window, unmounted the media. It didn't do that automatically of course. Real automount functionality had been working both in KDE and Gnome in ye olden days (when XFCE wasn't mature yet). Personally, I don't need and explicitely don't _want_ any automounting. Obviously I'm not running a "traditional" desktop. ;-) > Otherwise, I can't > think of much that xfce does not do. There is some customization that didn't work as expected, selection of default applications, and other things I forgot. With Gnome 2, it's much better now. Especially the inter- nationalization features (!) for the german language seem to be better there. This is a _must_ for some of my users, so whenever something doesn't work and a "stupid" english text comes up, they go crazy. Now that I got it working I don't question it anymore. > It does not have preferences > settings for positioning multiple monitors, which I think is nothing to > do with FreeBSD. That is what I use xorg.conf for anyway. :-) > LXDE might be fine, it's been a while since I tried it. Back then, it > did not seem to have an integrated way of handling desktop icons. Now it seems to have, but there are other things that drove me away of it. Again, I can't tell which those where. I've been using LXDE on different Linux distributions and hoped it would work the same on FreeBSD. No... :-( > For > me, that's not a big deal, but I tend to look at minimal desktops as > something to give to ex-Windows users. Exactly that was my intention. But their complexity and complicatedness (!) has grown in the same way that makes "Windows" unusable and ununderstandable for non-technical persons. I know there are excellent customization guides that make Xfce look and feel like Mac OS X - which I like, and several of my users too, so I installed wbar, had a long customization session with Gnome, and now they are happy about their "iMac". :-) But creating a nice and usable desktop is possible with other means, too. The older versions of VirtualBSD as well as FreeSBIE show how to do it. But I've given up already. The only solution would be to create my own "conglomerate" of tools and settings, but I don't have enough "target group pressure" so I'll leave that for a future time. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 20:13:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E6D6F87 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A996E256E for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s7GKDEFY009221; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:13:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6958912426; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:13:14 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Carl Johnson , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "William A. Mahaffey III" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:13:26 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 01:03:07PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > > Why did I abandon Xfce? Because it's not "portable enough" > > anymore. It's a "mostly Linux" desktop environment where the > > attempt of running it on FreeBSD leads to despair - it's not > > trivial to set up anymore, and functionality is lacking. >=20 > I don't understand this. xfce works quite well for me. There is no > automounter, and a few years back, I wrote one. But doing that well is > non-trivial, so I just manually mount things now. sysutils/automount works reasonably well. Although I patched it to use notify-send so I can see that a filesystem has been mounted. Another change that I've made to it is to use the `sync` opti= on on FAT filesystems. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT77taAAoJEED21dyjijPgE3AP/0Dqk0eyeZaz0Q9jPYr42sj/ qErW0/wGAaSpaklExQosNRwCpOmtVjsVQlrvzYOCCvifJxbsSwe0bZml6lyz6BNz KKE6RoZTpPKuPEpYHyh56z6ZJ0ZPVf5JamZ1K2+t3WpoTcFewws+IrtjJm7He+2x S6HjYqccr+ioEjyHwudeUiisDrNuc7Y8xCgImnxF9+KsLFYqsPQktCPDHiAD06eY zdyao9eXH9bUarJqnFzPgjRyEeSz7/3tSwM5vxQWZLLEJ6adwidYkyFFl0wmzA0A IImoiGKgty08xjVnFXeYTPZCK+JEAnX1dHVNimlR4ptSEsVWUI6oPaO6s6x7bINk n4WMVL/9qngPLGqCRqCZPxiGB5EpAXR4n9JgVdU2hgZ+sS875+JMK/hpSlrceYGs 9WJQ4YlJ3b0hKiIG1XLGMvPYMAtiqh4GgYqwXylV49PSh5w6/ZmNaD9qqeaNetQz yUePZnWvBdb4xgLgLgDMk7oBqhr1T10df2yQ0nOGjdEEEm2Qo7elNDjYuoS+hanI HtC1H4r4+sLKbRjAotzM5ZRrXBfaFU8SHjkNJrEsCetBQbgg99wDRqtciaVn6NIP w67UPxsp/Jybe9jGO9arEuQugyAdsZAjyWZD2grKpHnPbuZfWcNfXDKJ2ioJe0hg Drq4hlC8KhQ47gssGTYS =ursl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 16 20:31:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F00D537 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F16CC2713 for ; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3DFA3CBB2; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:31:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7GKV7cg001875; Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:31:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:31:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Roland Smith Subject: Re: Putting my new FreeBSD 9.3 desktop online .... Message-Id: <20140816223107.a5d28296.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140816201314.GA73102@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20140814072430.5e39c3bc.freebsd@edvax.de> <53ED2189.6020408@hiwaay.net> <53EE14FA.8060601@hiwaay.net> <20140815192413.78634baa.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EE4480.1080803@hiwaay.net> <20140815194438.2a468e5f.freebsd@edvax.de> <53EF4592.9030406@hiwaay.net> <87iolsift1.fsf@elk.localnet> <20140816183110.5878829a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140816201314.GA73102@slackbox.erewhon.home> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:31:17 -0000 On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:13:14 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 01:03:07PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > Why did I abandon Xfce? Because it's not "portable enough" > > > anymore. It's a "mostly Linux" desktop environment where the > > > attempt of running it on FreeBSD leads to despair - it's not > > > trivial to set up anymore, and functionality is lacking. > > > > I don't understand this. xfce works quite well for me. There is no > > automounter, and a few years back, I wrote one. But doing that well is > > non-trivial, so I just manually mount things now. > > sysutils/automount works reasonably well. Yes, I think this is what I ended up using. > Although I patched it to use notify-send so I can see that a filesystem has > been mounted. I don't know which part of Gnome is responsible, but an icon is created when a new file system has been mounted. This also works. Only the unmounting part didn't work, that's why that system's umount program is actually a script calling the real umount binary with the -f option (or it would _not_ unmount because the resource is claimed as being busy), and in case of optical media, use camcontrol to eject the drive. > Another change that I've made to it is to use the `sync` option on > FAT filesystems. It would be nice to have that set in /etc/fstab, but that again disturbs HAL... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...