From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Wed Aug 19 02:27:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF4D9BD3EA for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=PBUVfUba=I2=goldstein.sandia.gov=tvrusso@sandia.gov) Received: from smtp01asnl.sandia.gov (smtp01asnl.sandia.gov [198.102.153.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp01asnl.sandia.gov", Issuer "COMODO High-Assurance Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64532F97 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=PBUVfUba=I2=goldstein.sandia.gov=tvrusso@sandia.gov) X-IronPort-MID: 99463225 X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5700,7163,7897"; a="99463225" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,706,1432620000"; d="scan'208";a="99463225" Received: from interceptor2.sandia.gov ([198.102.152.61]) by smtp01asnl.sandia.gov with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 18 Aug 2015 20:21:51 -0600 Received: from mailgate.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by interceptor2.sandia.gov (RSA Interceptor) for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:21:35 -0600 Received: from goldstein.sandia.gov (goldstein.sandia.gov [134.253.237.23]) by mailgate.sandia.gov (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t7J2LX3u008778; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:21:33 -0600 Received: from goldstein.sandia.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by goldstein.sandia.gov (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t7J2LU8Y000655; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:21:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tvrusso@goldstein.sandia.gov) Received: (from tvrusso@localhost) by goldstein.sandia.gov (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t7J2LUab000654; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:21:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from tvrusso) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:21:30 -0600 From: Tom Russo To: "ctm-users@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Do you still need CTM? Message-ID: <20150819022130.GT30047@goldstein.sandia.gov> Reply-To: tvrusso@sandia.gov References: <55D3E582.2030908@missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55D3E582.2030908@missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2015.8.19.20916 X-PMX-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report=' HTML_00_01 0.05, HTML_00_10 0.05, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, DATE_TZ_NA 0, REFERENCES 0, SINGLE_URI_IN_BODY 0, __ANY_URI 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __C230066_P5 0, __CANPHARM_UNSUB_LINK 0, __CD 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FORWARDED_MSG 0, __FRAUD_CONTACT_NUM 0, __HAS_FROM 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_REPLYTO 0, __HTTPS_URI 0, __IN_REP_TO 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __REFERENCES 0, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC 0, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY 0, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __SINGLE_URI_TEXT 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __TO_NO_NAME 0, __URI_IN_BODY 0, __URI_NO_PATH 0, __URI_NO_WWW 0, __URI_NS , __USER_AGENT 0' X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-RSA-Action: allow X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:27:00 -0000 I stopped using CTM quite some time ago and moved over to svn, which works fine through our firewall (the only reason I used CTM is that cvsup didn't work through the firewall). I had quite forgotten I was even subscribed to this announce group, which I'll fix shortly. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 02:10:11AM +0000, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I just received an email from one of the FreeBSD people telling me > that they are worried about the security threat posed by CTM. They > would like to disconnect it from the base FreeBSD system. > > Personally I have become extremely happy with using subversion, and if > CTM were to disappear, I could live without it very easily. > > But maybe some of you feel differently. One thing we could do is > 1. Create a CTM port; > 2. Put the deltas on a server other than official FreeBSD servers; > 3. Host our own mailing lists. > > Honestly, I think the best thing to do is to close CTM. But if anyone > else really wants CTM, and is willing to do (2) and (3), I can easily > do (1). > > Opinions? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV0+WBAAoJEC3xK9GaktgHVsIH/3tRdn2fOZOc0ePHPmuXGRmz > 6IA+pwjsu6NyCm48Qw/mGqtovYLdqhaO7xQdIR995RnRs88+nF7UHJnWGSC6d6Gq > kDp2bKeKrV4VSWr1Hf7nTFRjQt2uF2dl5SJnEScR+7Mbllc5AlLJWeHg9f0Zd+84 > bQ2vUnfpVdI/IRH64p4sXVRpYMjHS9OPQgmwl3VE0jYAfen8zJnIKR+obopfQJ9x > dqx4orV7YCFCSqrXPBeeI39lpWrxuETXCBD1h5Z+7jn3QUW9NZoQB4yNrQ6gnZDO > heiGqq29C8xi7FIrU973X0MY+UmzfLqfM1CdSEuwI5tZi0IUmEtaoArr/tiNz/s= > =dsIp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > ctm-announce@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-announce > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "ctm-announce-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Thomas Russo * tvrusso@sandia.gov * Tel: (505) 844-8644 Dept 1355, Electrical Models & Simulation * FAX: (505) 284-2518 Mail Stop 1177, Sandia National Laboratories *PAGER: (505) 283-2623 Albuquerque, NM 87185-1177 * CELL: (505) 469-0161 Give a man a program and you frustrate him for a day. 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