From owner-freebsd-python@freebsd.org Sun Jun 28 08:07:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-python@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A6098EC4C; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koobs.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com (mail-pa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8BF51A1A; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koobs.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by padev16 with SMTP id ev16so89665658pad.0; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:07:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=noYMRAVRL+/aVA5tSKcCQLgG8NtnQuz080jzkSBtyqE=; b=xwqz1zCDDoNjsEUnSEt/3mJDouJ0StdTSBb3yXNFrdmTqCNdm7pXNDa7dz9vtAuOTo jlQdpel3Ukn/b4DdrUdYQp4mHT0deB8B4Ebh2/Fd0mFDBsZAkfoH9SjJjWIHU+3j00/W XxreUmMN+ykbOfZQ73rkXntUuSZBKGIWqRY19NuAkm0ImfJMOnb5GU3P75bot/bWerhO s8eOiG1+44PngdI4HG3nxWtlA/tzS7/4twhba9E59s1675qS4PcjVrK+BFn6qR7nzuEx eOLmP2NP4XfykplxWVAuGXMu7RZl8yXM7mQ2wkAeIsKVZZoGv2rQ5/7EFD53aMi7ts4C 35PQ== X-Received: by 10.66.249.101 with SMTP id yt5mr20094688pac.116.1435478838177; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:44b8:31ae:7b01::2? (2001-44b8-31ae-7b01-0000-0000-0000-0002.static.ipv6.internode.on.net. [2001:44b8:31ae:7b01::2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pa1sm38468141pdb.73.2015.06.28.01.07.16 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Kubilay Kocak Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Simplifying lang/pypy(3) References: <1778458.ppUHDKsiRe@dragon.local> To: David Naylor , freebsd-python@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Kubilay Kocak Message-ID: <558FAB30.30802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:07:12 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1778458.ppUHDKsiRe@dragon.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:07:21 -0000 On 27/06/2015 9:16 PM, David Naylor wrote: > Hi, > > lang/pypy was originally set up to achieve: > > * building of multiple pypy instances based on different setting (i.e. with > or without jit, sandboxing, etc). The port user could define any permutation > she desires. > > * Install in a directory layout more similar to lang/python (i.e. libraries > in lib/, include files in include/). > > I plan to simplify the port by removing the multi-instance support and using > the default directory layout of the port. This will fix issues with > virtualenv and reduce the learning curve of using/maintaining the port. > > To this end does anyone: > > a) use the multi-instance support? > > b) depend on the current directory layout? > > Based on feedback I will adapt my plans to simplify. > > Regards > Thanks for opening up the question to the list David My vote (without my python hat on) would be for lang/pypy being as close to the upstream experience (freebsd improvements not withstanding) as the possibly by default as that would be my expectation as a user knowing nothing else. >From there work on additions or extensions, possibly as extra (slave) ports or something similar ./koobs