From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 04:04:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19EC0E75 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C8A67B for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp118-210-136-81.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.136.81]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2015 14:29:37 +1030 Message-ID: <550503A6.8090907@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:29:34 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jd1008 , Fedora Community Users Support , FreeBSD Users Subject: Re: Could someone explain why thunderbird creates so many processes per folder References: <5504C179.5040202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5504C179.5040202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:04:50 -0000 On 15/03/2015 09:47, jd1008 wrote: > For example: > > $ lsof | grep Sent > thunderbi 3165 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf > Gecko_IOT 3165 3192 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf > Socket 3165 3193 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf > JS 3165 3194 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf > JS 3165 3195 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf > Hang 3165 3196 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf > Cache2 3165 3197 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf > Timer 3165 3198 jd 37u REG 8,19 3107745 > 62260168 /sdb3/home/jd/.thunderbird/jd1008/Mail/pop.googlemail.com/Sent.msf It doesn't - your just interpreting the data wrong. The second column is the PID - a unique number for each process and they are all the same in your list indicating that one copy of thinderbird is running. What you are seeing is all the files that it currently has open. If you try ps aux | grep thunder you will find one entry. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 11:36:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6398F77 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S11.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s11.hotmail.com [65.55.111.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F59E36B for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU436-SMTP97 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S11.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:34:54 -0700 X-TMN: [bEydoryIey8Bq1INrch/n+DqvnrgRWlj1lGVgEGtZa4=] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 17:04:42 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Subject: The mail server situation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150315-0, 15-03-2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2015 11:34:51.0708 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D1307C0:01D05F14] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:36:02 -0000 Hi, I have been trying to set up a mail server on a new FreeBSD 10.1 (amd64) machine. It is turning into quite a challenge, which I am having to persist with simply because I had set up qmail to work nicely 9 years back for another company on 5.3 or (5.4). I suppose every administrator for mail faces the following situation when taking up a mail server migration : 1) email user addresses are existing and have to be served via IMAP/POP + SMTP as in place (except elementary re-configuration on the client). The server has a public, static IP bound to an MX record (or so I believe) 2) access to mail via web 3) spam control via any working plugin like spamassassin 4) optional support for ssl/tls/ipv6 (although I would frankly like all of these locked up in their own jails) There are tons of HowTo's out there on the web, all suffering from similar symptoms : 1) Broken : it turns out that qmail is not even working on FreeBSD 10.1. God knows why the port was shipped in the first place 2) Very poor documentation. FreeBSD's famed handbook is a starting example. It begins the mail section with the presumption that the user does not know what is email and tries to define it in terms of traditional mail. (I wonder why the authors even have to presume that the user is acquainted with the concept of mail). Then it moves to sendmail configuration which begins with the presumption that the user is already aware of terms like CONNECT, RELAY and SKIP. As far as I am concerned, RELAY means giving a letter for my girl-friend to a go-between I trust. SKIP means hopping in the air exactly once when I receive a reply. (Hopping is more difficult to define, but you can try the dictionary) Is there any mail server which : a) just works with basic commandline skills like cd/ls/grep/sed/awk/tar/find/locate (and of course, the famous copy and paste) b) the documentation for which works as it is on 10.1 amd64 without making too many excuses You can try and discourage me with stuff like "Read online documentation". But that only opens up the discussion to many more naive administrators who will pound mailing lists with help questions. -- Regards, Manish Jain --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 11:50:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37211822 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 998A4692 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagg8 with SMTP id g8so19691268lag.1 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=K99FWWE+rvEq7PfjSbrDgXUNWwN7HY1pOY3rMykCZVU=; b=0LtWwgIx/u5SBYqnLdPP9ZK+2AyxwGyCRKiCHDd3LEa57Ayuacj/GBkz32CeEMK4xt Z4UswbLOkk2V/fdu1v6Srlvmv3aotvKdtEBQoHkIfNJ2QupJNrnbu2ZKj4J2wwcZHI4m pPq9Cu71R8gQbzSOBiJ3TuzsfvvqxUSboF+oAn4ilCX7LVtNPEyTPJ5UxwEEdpkPyRC4 fkyR+dyx0d6XZSscZNIpuuMAlnK7vXXMTMN4fWuOxT6Z5o8EKI7NUJ6qbkHdOnQh4W72 tYZKeRr/Y60Fq9zcy9Uwt7GWLSV4etWxjSPGe4oOLd33FTdwGA2qXdjkgaB5uRGz5Zcc Ts6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.41.236 with SMTP id i12mr22305803lbl.14.1426420212702; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.6.170 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:50:12 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The mail server situation From: Outback Dingo To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:50:15 -0000 On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, I have been trying to set up a mail server on a new FreeBSD 10.1 > (amd64) machine. It is turning into quite a challenge, which I am having to > persist with simply because I had set up qmail to work nicely 9 years back > for another company on 5.3 or (5.4). I suppose every administrator for > mail faces the following situation when taking up a mail server migration : > 1) email user addresses are existing and have to be served via IMAP/POP + > SMTP as in place (except elementary re-configuration on the client). The > server has a public, static IP bound to an MX record (or so I believe) 2) > access to mail via web 3) spam control via any working plugin like > spamassassin 4) optional support for ssl/tls/ipv6 (although I would > frankly like all of these locked up in their own jails) There are tons of > HowTo's out there on the web, all suffering from similar symptoms : 1) > Broken : it turns out that qmail is not even working on FreeBSD 10.1. God > knows why the port was shipped in the first place 2) Very poor > documentation. FreeBSD's famed handbook is a starting example. It begins > the mail section with the presumption that the user does not know what is > email and tries to define it in terms of traditional mail. (I wonder why > the authors even have to presume that the user is acquainted with the > concept of mail). Then it moves to sendmail configuration which begins with > the presumption that the user is already aware of terms like CONNECT, RELAY > and SKIP. As far as I am concerned, RELAY means giving a letter for my > girl-friend to a go-between I trust. SKIP means hopping in the air exactly > once when I receive a reply. (Hopping is more difficult to define, but you > can try the dictionary) Is there any mail server which : a) just works > with basic commandline skills like cd/ls/grep/sed/awk/tar/find/ > locate (and of course, the famous copy and paste) > b) the documentation for which works as it is on 10.1 amd64 without making > too many excuses You can try and discourage me with stuff like "Read > online documentation". But that only opens up the discussion to many more > naive administrators who will pound mailing lists with help questions. -- > Regards, Manish Jain --- This email is free from viruses and malware > because avast! Antivirus protection is active.http://www.avast.com > ______________________________ > > > > > You could simply use iredmail, or postfix even. http://www.iredmail.org/ > > > > > > > > > > _________________freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/ > > > mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > @freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 11:54:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D4EFAC9 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22a.google.com (mail-la0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D153B7B2 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lamx15 with SMTP id x15so19751271lam.3 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:54:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=h5BJ8Edm7Sr0DNPsBm8kcWRuPbkt1LnMAvgEM/v3fMk=; b=tOhowleTq8hF5jeVR2PKjsNSKTborF9/rJEeqI+dgbvNVklY2lZWXRZqtc9YnyhoYW Hsuwi0YOAQ1kprRZQ5R+70+zP/qcTZsRGHS4LcqFyqBW/uiSMdOXBbkn1BDv++0QNh22 uCXTwrIpVlgD/yF/SMcUecanRKdiM+VqA1NtCdrudIo6OO1KueFqswhzucZNTuVL1iGp AG9dV4P4y3JgxRY85a50DysKdhwgwfDCnzmJOps27ZnLQ+Jk5X4fIjxeZUmrYARKr+CQ 7nV8COB5K6ZirhMDqfhNvlVqETzpuVYyBLW6zVkhX9tLFb/gMR4qWYXWCTr/eHz2zk+1 bw1w== X-Received: by 10.112.141.168 with SMTP id rp8mr24256268lbb.46.1426420457744; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:54:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.13.37 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:53:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:53:37 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The mail server situation To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:54:20 -0000 On 15 March 2015 at 14:34, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to set up a mail server on a new FreeBSD 10.1 (amd64) > machine. It is turning into quite a challenge, which I am having to persist > with simply because I had set up qmail to work nicely 9 years back for > another company on 5.3 or (5.4). > > I suppose every administrator for mail faces the following situation when > taking up a mail server migration : > > 1) email user addresses are existing and have to be served via IMAP/POP + > SMTP as in place (except elementary re-configuration on the client). The > server has a public, static IP bound to an MX record (or so I believe) > 2) access to mail via web > 3) spam control via any working plugin like spamassassin > 4) optional support for ssl/tls/ipv6 (although I would frankly like all of > these locked up in their own jails) > > There are tons of HowTo's out there on the web, all suffering from similar > symptoms : > > 1) Broken : it turns out that qmail is not even working on FreeBSD 10.1. > God knows why the port was shipped in the first place > 2) Very poor documentation. FreeBSD's famed handbook is a starting > example. It begins the mail section with the presumption that the user does > not know what is email and tries to define it in terms of traditional mail. > (I wonder why the authors even have to presume that the user is acquainted > with the concept of mail). Then it moves to sendmail configuration which > begins with the presumption that the user is already aware of terms like > CONNECT, RELAY and SKIP. As far as I am concerned, RELAY means giving a > letter for my girl-friend to a go-between I trust. SKIP means hopping in > the air exactly once when I receive a reply. (Hopping is more difficult to > define, but you can try the dictionary) > > Is there any mail server which : > > a) just works with basic commandline skills like > cd/ls/grep/sed/awk/tar/find/locate (and of course, the famous copy and > paste) > b) the documentation for which works as it is on 10.1 amd64 without making > too many excuses > > You can try and discourage me with stuff like "Read online documentation". > But that only opens up the discussion to many more naive administrators who > will pound mailing lists with help questions. > > -- > Regards, > > Manish Jain > > Go with Exim. You could use Exim4U - http://www.exim4u.org/html/documentation.html -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 13:35:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 637B1568 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E5AB19F for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t2FDZQR8029073; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 00:35:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 00:35:26 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: The Lost Admin Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.3 is not recognizing USB 2.0 peripherals (or maybe USB2 bus) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20150315233303.D22641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Hans Petter Selasky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:35:38 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 562, Issue 7, Message: 2 On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:24:52 -0400 The Lost Admin wrote: > On Mar 14, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 562, Issue 4, Message: 3 > > On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:43:03 -0400 The Lost Admin wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I?ve got a Zotac Zbox SD-ID12 (Intel Atop D525). According to the > >> vendor specs it?s got 6 USB 2.0 ports. It?s spend the last few years > >> sitting on a shelf running FreeBSD and getting periodic > >> updates/upgrades and little else. > >> > >> Currently at FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p10. > >> > >> Recently I decided to make use of some old USB2 hard drives I had > >> lying around and turn the box into a basic NAS for my home network > >> (nothing fancy just NFS). I got the NFS working without a hitch. > >> > >> I attached the first of the USB 2.0 drives and it seamed really slow. > >> Looking at /var/messages it indicates it?s running at USB 1 speeds: > >> > >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 > >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > >> da0: Serial Number 575851314136305639323030 > >> da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > >> da0: 953842MB (1953468416 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 121597C) > >> da0: quirks=0x2 > >> > >> Further digging into dmesg suggests to me that FreeBSD is somehow > >> either not finding or not using USB2 drivers. > >> > >> For the sake of keeping this message short, the full verbose dmesg > >> can be found here -> http://pastebin.com/sUxvCd0m ; it will expire in > >> one month (April 11, 2015). > > > > Unfortunately your dmesg is missing the top - these days you likely need > > to set kern.msgbufsize=98304 or at least >64K, to capture a full verbose > > boot; I have that in /boot/loader.conf or you can set it from the loader > > prompt - so it's not clear whether you're running a GENERIC kernel, but > > as you say 9.3-RELEASE-p10 I'll assume you probably do. If not, and > > your kernel doesn't include device ehci, that's your problem solved :) > > This is the top of a non-verbose DMESG. It will take some fiddling to > get the verbose one out of the box because it?s headless. NOTE: > currently I have module_load eyries for ehci and ohci in loader.conf. Ordinary dmesg will show ehci detection fine, and your dmesg at pastebin may be enough for someone who knows the details of pci and usb detection - which sure isn't me. Copying this to Hans Petter as this seems like a real failure to detect hardware - or broken hardware. > It is a GENERIC kernel. Ok, so loading ehci is superfluous, and ohci is the other USB 1 driver other than the uhci that yours has. See below, where it seems that the ehci that kldstat -v lists is the module rather than the built-in (hmm!) > Copyright (c) 1992-2014 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p10 #0: Tue Feb 24 21:01:19 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] > module_register: module pci/ehci already exists! > Module pci/ehci failed to register: 17 > module_register: module pci/ohci already exists! > Module pci/ohci failed to register: 17 > CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz (1795.74-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x106ca Family = 0x6 Model = 0x1c Stepping = 10 > Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0x40e31d > AMD Features=0x20100000 Any reason you're not running amd64 on this machine (LM)? Might be worth booting from a 9.3 amd64 memstick to a shell and checking dmesg or /var/run/dmesg.boot to see if it detects/attaches ehci with that kernel? > AMD Features2=0x1 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) > avail memory = 2071896064 (1975 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 > ACPI APIC Table: <122310 APIC1702> > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 3 > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: <122310 RSDT1702> on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7f600000 (3) failed > >> NOTES: > >> I have tried a variety of USB2 devices (CD R/W, usb hard drive, thumb > >> drives). I have confirmed that all are detected and accessed as USB > >> 2.0 devices on Windows 7, Mac OSX. I have also confirmed that Linux > >> (Raspbian on a raspberry Pi) recognized and used the hard drive as a > >> USB2.0 device. Have you tried say some linux boot CD or memstick to see if linux sees the USB ports ok as USB 2 on this box? That could narrow this down to whether the hardware on your board is faulty, or it's a FreeBSD issue? > > Your dmesg shows: > > > > uhci0: port 0xd880-0xd89f irq > > 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 > > ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to lapic 0 vector 55 > > uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00 > > usbus0 on uhci0 > > usbus0: bpf attached > > uhci0: usbpf: Attached > > > > and the same for uhci1, uhci2 and uhci3. If ehci (USB 2) were being > > detected you'd then expect to see something like, as here on 9.3-R: > > > > ehci0: mem 0xf2926c00-0xf2926fff irq > > 23 at device 26.7 on pci0 > > ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to lapic 0 vector 55 > > usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 > > usbus3 on ehci0 > > usbus3: bpf attached > > ehci0: usbpf: Attached > > > > though on a different irq and usbus than the uhci ones. > > > >> I tried a few different cables just in case. > >> > >> Also, I have been using FreeBSD since the 1990s and used to be pretty > >> active at helping people on this list (a long time ago). > > > > That's cool, but you don't need a credit balance to qualify :) > > > > smithi@x200:~ % kldstat -v | grep ehci > > 295 ehci/usbus > > 287 pci/ehci > > smithi@x200:~ % devinfo -v | grep ehci > > ehci0 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x293c subvendor=0x17aa > > subdevice=0x20f1 class=0x0c0320 at slot=26 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.EHC1 > > ehci1 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x293a subvendor=0x17aa > > subdevice=0x20f1 class=0x0c0320 at slot=29 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.EHC0 > $ kldstat -v | grep ehci > 317 ehci/usbus > 3 1 0xc1697000 e7b4 ehci.ko (/boot/kernel/ehci.ko) > 2 pci/ehci I find that odd, I'd have thought the failure to load ehci above would have left you with the pci/ehci from kernel, like mine. Had you loaded ehci from /boot/loader.conf the first time you reported this problem also, or just this last time? Trying not to assume too much .. > $ devinfo -v | grep ehci > # produced nothing so.. Yes that only appears after hardware is detected, and yours isn't. > $ devinfo -v | grep hci > uhci0 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27c8 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27c8 class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB0 > uhci1 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27c9 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27c9 class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB1 > uhci2 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27ca subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27ca class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB2 > uhci3 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27cb subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27cb class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=3 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB3 These look ok, and they're working ok at USB 1 speeds, right? > > If you've got ehci loaded then it's not being detected, which is weird > > indeed. Report back with the output of those two commands? > > > > cheers, Ian (please cc me, I take questions as a digest) If you can confirm USB 2 works booting linux or $omethingelse then you maybe should try freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, likely needing subscription. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 13:51:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D944A3A for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.turbocat.net (heidi.turbocat.net [88.198.202.214]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 111D82BF for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop015.home.selasky.org (cm-176.74.213.204.customer.telag.net [176.74.213.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.turbocat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE5D01FE023; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:50:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <55058E68.7070806@selasky.org> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:51:36 +0100 From: Hans Petter Selasky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith , The Lost Admin Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.3 is not recognizing USB 2.0 peripherals (or maybe USB2 bus) References: <20150315233303.D22641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20150315233303.D22641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:51:00 -0000 On 03/15/15 14:35, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 562, Issue 7, Message: 2 > On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:24:52 -0400 The Lost Admin wrote: > > On Mar 14, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 562, Issue 4, Message: 3 > > > On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:43:03 -0400 The Lost Admin wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I?ve got a Zotac Zbox SD-ID12 (Intel Atop D525). According to the > > >> vendor specs it?s got 6 USB 2.0 ports. It?s spend the last few years > > >> sitting on a shelf running FreeBSD and getting periodic > > >> updates/upgrades and little else. > > >> > > >> Currently at FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p10. > > >> > > >> Recently I decided to make use of some old USB2 hard drives I had > > >> lying around and turn the box into a basic NAS for my home network > > >> (nothing fancy just NFS). I got the NFS working without a hitch. > > >> > > >> I attached the first of the USB 2.0 drives and it seamed really slow. > > >> Looking at /var/messages it indicates it?s running at USB 1 speeds: > > >> > > >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 > > >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > > >> da0: Serial Number 575851314136305639323030 > > >> da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > > >> da0: 953842MB (1953468416 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 121597C) > > >> da0: quirks=0x2 > > >> > > >> Further digging into dmesg suggests to me that FreeBSD is somehow > > >> either not finding or not using USB2 drivers. > > >> > > >> For the sake of keeping this message short, the full verbose dmesg > > >> can be found here -> http://pastebin.com/sUxvCd0m ; it will expire in > > >> one month (April 11, 2015). > > > > > > Unfortunately your dmesg is missing the top - these days you likely need > > > to set kern.msgbufsize=98304 or at least >64K, to capture a full verbose > > > boot; I have that in /boot/loader.conf or you can set it from the loader > > > prompt - so it's not clear whether you're running a GENERIC kernel, but > > > as you say 9.3-RELEASE-p10 I'll assume you probably do. If not, and > > > your kernel doesn't include device ehci, that's your problem solved :) > > > > This is the top of a non-verbose DMESG. It will take some fiddling to > > get the verbose one out of the box because it?s headless. NOTE: > > currently I have module_load eyries for ehci and ohci in loader.conf. > > Ordinary dmesg will show ehci detection fine, and your dmesg at pastebin > may be enough for someone who knows the details of pci and usb detection > - which sure isn't me. Copying this to Hans Petter as > this seems like a real failure to detect hardware - or broken hardware. > > > It is a GENERIC kernel. > > Ok, so loading ehci is superfluous, and ohci is the other USB 1 driver > other than the uhci that yours has. See below, where it seems that the > ehci that kldstat -v lists is the module rather than the built-in (hmm!) > > > Copyright (c) 1992-2014 The FreeBSD Project. > > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > > FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p10 #0: Tue Feb 24 21:01:19 UTC 2015 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] > > > module_register: module pci/ehci already exists! > > Module pci/ehci failed to register: 17 > > module_register: module pci/ohci already exists! > > Module pci/ohci failed to register: 17 > > > CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz (1795.74-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x106ca Family = 0x6 Model = 0x1c Stepping = 10 > > Features=0xbfebfbff > > Features2=0x40e31d > > AMD Features=0x20100000 > > Any reason you're not running amd64 on this machine (LM)? Might be > worth booting from a 9.3 amd64 memstick to a shell and checking dmesg or > /var/run/dmesg.boot to see if it detects/attaches ehci with that kernel? > > > AMD Features2=0x1 > > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > > real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) > > avail memory = 2071896064 (1975 MB) > > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 > > ACPI APIC Table: <122310 APIC1702> > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads > > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > > cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 > > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > > cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 3 > > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 > > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > > acpi0: <122310 RSDT1702> on motherboard > > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > > acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed > > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > > acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7f600000 (3) failed > > > >> NOTES: > > >> I have tried a variety of USB2 devices (CD R/W, usb hard drive, thumb > > >> drives). I have confirmed that all are detected and accessed as USB > > >> 2.0 devices on Windows 7, Mac OSX. I have also confirmed that Linux > > >> (Raspbian on a raspberry Pi) recognized and used the hard drive as a > > >> USB2.0 device. > > Have you tried say some linux boot CD or memstick to see if linux sees > the USB ports ok as USB 2 on this box? That could narrow this down to > whether the hardware on your board is faulty, or it's a FreeBSD issue? > > > > Your dmesg shows: > > > > > > uhci0: port 0xd880-0xd89f irq > > > 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 > > > ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to lapic 0 vector 55 > > > uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00 > > > usbus0 on uhci0 > > > usbus0: bpf attached > > > uhci0: usbpf: Attached > > > > > > and the same for uhci1, uhci2 and uhci3. If ehci (USB 2) were being > > > detected you'd then expect to see something like, as here on 9.3-R: > > > > > > ehci0: mem 0xf2926c00-0xf2926fff irq > > > 23 at device 26.7 on pci0 > > > ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to lapic 0 vector 55 > > > usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 > > > usbus3 on ehci0 > > > usbus3: bpf attached > > > ehci0: usbpf: Attached > > > > > > though on a different irq and usbus than the uhci ones. > > > > > >> I tried a few different cables just in case. > > >> > > >> Also, I have been using FreeBSD since the 1990s and used to be pretty > > >> active at helping people on this list (a long time ago). > > > > > > That's cool, but you don't need a credit balance to qualify :) > > > > > > smithi@x200:~ % kldstat -v | grep ehci > > > 295 ehci/usbus > > > 287 pci/ehci > > > smithi@x200:~ % devinfo -v | grep ehci > > > ehci0 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x293c subvendor=0x17aa > > > subdevice=0x20f1 class=0x0c0320 at slot=26 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.EHC1 > > > ehci1 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x293a subvendor=0x17aa > > > subdevice=0x20f1 class=0x0c0320 at slot=29 function=7 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.EHC0 > > > $ kldstat -v | grep ehci > > 317 ehci/usbus > > 3 1 0xc1697000 e7b4 ehci.ko (/boot/kernel/ehci.ko) > > 2 pci/ehci > > I find that odd, I'd have thought the failure to load ehci above would > have left you with the pci/ehci from kernel, like mine. Had you loaded > ehci from /boot/loader.conf the first time you reported this problem > also, or just this last time? Trying not to assume too much .. > > > $ devinfo -v | grep ehci > > # produced nothing so.. > > Yes that only appears after hardware is detected, and yours isn't. > > > $ devinfo -v | grep hci > > uhci0 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27c8 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27c8 class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=0 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB0 > > uhci1 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27c9 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27c9 class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB1 > > uhci2 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27ca subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27ca class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=2 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB2 > > uhci3 pnpinfo vendor=0x8086 device=0x27cb subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x27cb class=0x0c0300 at slot=29 function=3 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.USB3 > > These look ok, and they're working ok at USB 1 speeds, right? > > > > If you've got ehci loaded then it's not being detected, which is weird > > > indeed. Report back with the output of those two commands? > > > > > > cheers, Ian (please cc me, I take questions as a digest) > > If you can confirm USB 2 works booting linux or $omethingelse then you > maybe should try freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, likely needing subscription. > > cheers, Ian > Hi, With regular PC's there should be an EHCI or XHCI host controllers in dmesg. Else only FULL speed will be supported. What is "pciconf -lv" outputting. Might be an ACPI issue ... --HPS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 13:58:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9B8ED72 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F2E73E0 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oiaz123 with SMTP id z123so18883214oia.3 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 06:58:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ltbxMg7rPKge/7SYJW97ggp6FsTLBHsmexIa9ZfIAzY=; b=GM879eAUACn8J4hgp2/lEKD4hqPkydyhBM0DBjSZlgbDPcPNLk3ho5X3lRS31VgN/Q iKILIUoag5nTg/rwtw+qRTdp22s+0PXEPoZgOOdgI65wnVU9gUxbhJ0GD/fs3/2yTbbh WopcHXbLUl/hQRykaZRT+i65P/OMAfM1VU8cd0YJFHgPCetx1bk0rF2JEE+B/++CBy8l Vi8x6gkwuyZOeZF4oCJ4S3Fphl5Yvl35jonvftINnyUzmgIRUAesTm/ISSDbnKX3f784 770GwkCcpJA1xHe0eNcgOHpnN/WRNqubtBY/5DpxC+GUoTk7Y+AxcoQVrCIMA++yomeh F/Gw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.28.69 with SMTP id z5mr9236749obg.58.1426427927936; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 06:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.100.47 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 06:58:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:28:47 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The mail server situation From: Amitabh Kant To: Manish Jain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:58:49 -0000 On Sunday 15 March 2015, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to set up a mail server on a new FreeBSD 10.1 (amd64) > machine. It is turning into quite a challenge, which I am having to persist > with simply because I had set up qmail to work nicely 9 years back for > another company on 5.3 or (5.4). > > I suppose every administrator for mail faces the following situation when > taking up a mail server migration : > > 1) email user addresses are existing and have to be served via IMAP/POP + > SMTP as in place (except elementary re-configuration on the client). The > server has a public, static IP bound to an MX record (or so I believe) > 2) access to mail via web > 3) spam control via any working plugin like spamassassin > 4) optional support for ssl/tls/ipv6 (although I would frankly like all of > these locked up in their own jails) > > There are tons of HowTo's out there on the web, all suffering from similar > symptoms : > > 1) Broken : it turns out that qmail is not even working on FreeBSD 10.1. > God knows why the port was shipped in the first place > 2) Very poor documentation. FreeBSD's famed handbook is a starting > example. It begins the mail section with the presumption that the user does > not know what is email and tries to define it in terms of traditional mail. > (I wonder why the authors even have to presume that the user is acquainted > with the concept of mail). Then it moves to sendmail configuration which > begins with the presumption that the user is already aware of terms like > CONNECT, RELAY and SKIP. As far as I am concerned, RELAY means giving a > letter for my girl-friend to a go-between I trust. SKIP means hopping in > the air exactly once when I receive a reply. (Hopping is more difficult to > define, but you can try the dictionary) > > Is there any mail server which : > > a) just works with basic commandline skills like > cd/ls/grep/sed/awk/tar/find/locate (and of course, the famous copy and > paste) > b) the documentation for which works as it is on 10.1 amd64 without making > too many excuses > > You can try and discourage me with stuff like "Read online documentation". > But that only opens up the discussion to many more naive administrators who > will pound mailing lists with help questions. > > -- > Regards, > > Manish Jain > > > > _________________________ > FWIW, I had much better experience using Postfix on FreeBSD till 9.x . Haven't used it in a while, but should not be much of a problem even with 10.x . Stopped using qmail after FreeBSD 6, so not much of an idea anymore with it. Amitabh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 15:22:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63AE12E8 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF16CE2C for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t2FFMtt0032713; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:22:55 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:22:55 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Subject: Re: Any pascal-source programs in the ports tree? [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20150316015230.X22641@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dirk E , Eduardo Morras X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:22:59 -0000 Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 562, Issue 6, Message: 2 On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:06:43 +1100 (EST) Ian Smith wrote: > On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 09:17:04 -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Does anyone know of any ports written IN freepascal (fpc)? I've spent > > > some time trolling through ports (other than fpc itself) that mention > > > 'pascal' anywhere, but so far have found nothing with pascal sources. [..] > > The ports tree is full of fpc-* ( fpc parts and units are separately > > prepared as packages ) and Lazarus and its some parts . > > > > Therefore , you may imitate these ports by using them as samples . > > > > In > > > > http://www.freshports.org/ > > > > search > > > > fpc > > lazarus > > > > and see found parts for how they can be build from the sources . > > Thankyou Mehmet, but that's not what I'm looking for. All the fpc-* > ports (and Lazarus) are part of the freepascal infrastructure itself, > but what I'm after is something using fpc (or gpc, I suppose) to build > programs outside of that infrastructure. I did browse freshports, but > didn't find any fpc* standalone programs, just add-on units, libraries > and such. [..] > Might anyone know a way to search the ports tree for anything with a > build dependency of fpc (or gpc, I guess) that is not called fpc-* ? Thanks again Mehmet, you pointed me in the right direction and with help from Dirk E off-list and Eduardo Morras here, I finally found the clue I needed, namely what USE_FPC in these Makefiles was about. From notes: For USE_FPC see: /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.fpc.mk smithi@x200:/usr/ports % find . -name Makefile -exec grep -l USE_FPC {} + \ | egrep -v 'fpc-|lazarus' ./comms/cqrlog/Makefile ./games/hedgewars/Makefile ./lang/nbc/Makefile ./net-p2p/transmission-remote-gui/Makefile ./russian/emkatic/Makefile ./science/checkmol/Makefile ./science/mol2ps/Makefile ./x11-fm/doublecmd/Makefile Eduardo pointed out hedgewars, Dirk transmission-remote-gui, but from that list I started with science/checkmol and mol2ps which are just the sort of thing I was after; single standalone programs built with fpc. Even this monkey, having seen this Makefile, can do something similar :) smithi@x200:/usr/ports % cat ./science/checkmol/Makefile # Created by: Fernan Aguero # $FreeBSD: head/science/checkmol/Makefile 357307 2014-06-10 12:52:48Z vanilla $ PORTNAME= checkmol PORTVERSION= 0.5 PORTREVISION= 1 CATEGORIES= science MASTER_SITES= http://merian.pch.univie.ac.at/pch/download/chemistry/checkmol/ EXTRACT_SUFX= .pas MAINTAINER= ports@FreeBSD.org COMMENT= Analyze molecules for the presence of functional groups LICENSE= GPLv2 # (or later) NO_WRKSUBDIR= yes EXTRACT_CMD= ${CP} EXTRACT_BEFORE_ARGS= # EXTRACT_AFTER_ARGS= ${WRKDIR} USE_FPC= yes PLIST_FILES= bin/checkmol bin/matchmol do-build: (cd ${WRKSRC} && ${LOCALBASE}/bin/fpc ${EXTRACT_ONLY} -S2 -O3) do-install: (cd ${WRKSRC} && ${INSTALL_PROGRAM} ${DISTNAME} ${STAGEDIR}${PREFIX}/bin/${PORTNAME}) (cd ${STAGEDIR}${PREFIX}/bin && ${LN} ${PORTNAME} matchmol) .include === Thanks, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 16:09:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CB379E8 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (e.febed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60B4B2F1 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t2FG8ZLJ085060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:08:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:09:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Install amd64 over existing i386 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:09:50 -0000 Hi list, I bought a new machine the other day, and accidentally installed the i386 version of FreeBSD on it even though it has a 64-bit processor. It works fine, but I think I'd rather have the "right" version. So, two questions: 1. Is it even worth worrying about at this point? 2. Can I just install amd64 without destroying existing filesystems and files? I realize I'll have to reinstall my ports, but that's OK. Thanks. More info below. Yes, the CMOS clock was set incorrectly when I did the install. $ uname -a FreeBSD tripel.monochrome.org 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 22:51:51 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Relevant part of dmesg: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (3158.81-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x1067a Family = 0x6 Model = 0x17 Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x408e3fd AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 16:29:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5497CD38 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out-04.shaw.ca (smtp-out-04.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDC268F for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb7f8hsrpno-svcs.dcs.int.inet (HELO pd6mr1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2015 10:29:52 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=lLInIC/DOn5n3D6orsHucpvSdvghcbAX3G2gHjt9VEo= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=7JtcQIc2AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=uyGsFsFAn9MzGMfRfL0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=t0oMh1E__vqWpPXf:21 a=0frCz5RTIjBQFVZZ:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds082.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd6mr1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2015 10:29:51 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Client-ID: 20279 X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.3.1.2267) X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.7_GA_2942 (MobileSync - RIM-Q10-SQN100-1/10.3.1.2267) Message-ID: <20150315162950.37888091.42076.20279@shaw.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:29:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Install amd64 over existing i386 From: Dale Scott In-Reply-To: References: To: Chris Hill , FreeBSD Questions List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:29:53 -0000 it probably won't be a big deal running i386 instead of amd64. Of course, y= ou loose the larger address space, potential optimizations may not be taken= advantage of, and there may be amd64-specific ports you will want, but on = the whole, if you don't think it's a big deal it's probably not. =A0 The "correct" software is the one that does what *you* need it to. ;-) You can certainly save the file system and upgrade, but exactly how will de= pend on your drive partitioning/configuration. I'd practice on a vm first.= =A0 Dale =A0 Original Message =A0 From: Chris Hill Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:09 AM To: FreeBSD Questions List Reply To: Chris Hill Subject: Install amd64 over existing i386 Hi list, I bought a new machine the other day, and accidentally installed the=20 i386 version of FreeBSD on it even though it has a 64-bit processor. It=20 works fine, but I think I'd rather have the "right" version. So, two=20 questions: 1. Is it even worth worrying about at this point? 2. Can I just install amd64 without destroying existing filesystems and=20 files? I realize I'll have to reinstall my ports, but that's OK. Thanks. More info below. Yes, the CMOS clock was set incorrectly when I did the=20 install. $ uname -a FreeBSD tripel.monochrome.org 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0=20 r274401: Tue Nov 11 22:51:51 UTC 2014=20 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Relevant part of dmesg: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (3158.81-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x1067a Family =3D 0x6 Model =3D 0x17 Step= ping =3D 10 Features=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x408e3fd AMD Features=3D0x20100000 AMD Features2=3D0x1 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics --=20 Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 18:51:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98469E97 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm20-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62BCD367 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:51:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s2048; t=1426445260; bh=yiOfMtOj1FSGQZOLYzZ5KI9i74w65BOZVZb915uVJps=; h=Date:From:To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=raZoZqjLKMqH51J3FcMmqkVpm859coBOJv9gS9iorxOsNstX54+UyGNjZHCzBw7batzq9e4pjoRDwdfTK4iriFDWCrZSr2fKYpVJLT4J0Bz3Fcd0qYVQgsAB+631DEdJDKyM3wd63iIRfYPwtvjLgpr5Hzog5ACRFUM24KUk83XCSEg6W4t9Xq7iEPq4B1P0flKylp+9WTWDZ0vsljtcKkUvILHMXa8DhL9iTw43uEUHD8xry/r5q4TDm8QW5eLuZVc/+9Hzev4FPE9S/4rRPCgHsgniHm3Y73x5PwoftU3RuO29ANJ7AYpS2slGJ6+RGLxYwpAKz7Bm0JwIvKCleg== Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2015 18:47:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2015 18:47:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2015 18:47:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 535177.38634.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <535177.38634.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:47:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: MnCOLq8VM1mxK0FI5KD_AGg6PbAlsxN_UcF3znuQ1HmbG2a ZTmUdERc3oK_MRxVc2rSwcPwQt3QHl5QsLd2GllIxWP24R10jCn7nJ03L0YI 5imsGjOZs7vpoMnjRfbwqPt7OmlUMZ_00lfjTTaU6TbYIwcZVsXxX6HyT2Sc XUSfNz9XTvXyunt9pG9sl6cuov197xRyvUHCpzaXczBRlipyWaHxE0aC7lxf HUETXNb8YeEBA7KucJqOkdSR1eGt3et6ODSFJ8ONPJaWILDzr.CUr7_yWycg ShI6yzW0sfAdys0HfBItTkXm_Yzy4YVYmMCzWRR61SI0QZfpnBoMSgjMB5x1 HNHa_Cqqq.gBz6EGq0jchYNdMVd3UWLPwcjLyIpf4IQv9JKe3vCyb0IkH4qm AvQdCiEe6GBX_jCEVXKXj_lmifcjYvgfIyBdw90jQLV8qlm6qQ09gM_bEjOi wN5_5eeuatUbsFUuH0NnTXbIp80t0mCU0zJyWk0sKTvTSPtIQaFhY7W3_kLy M_Ye2boPrG76vWPPq2IgRNTHasGCoCt0PDb8E9wFgIj2pu6UZPZr5KJMAOYc - X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Subject: Re: Install amd64 over existing i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:51:15 -0000 from Chris Hill: > I bought a new machine the other day, and accidentally installed the i386 > version of FreeBSD on it even though it has a 64-bit processor. It works fine, > but I think I'd rather have the "right" version. So, two questions: > 1. Is it even worth worrying about at this point? > 2. Can I just install amd64 without destroying existing filesystems and files? > I realize I'll have to reinstall my ports, but that's OK. You don't say how your disk is partitioned, but if you have space, you could keep or copy your i386 installation and install for amd64 in a separate partition. Having installations for both amd64 and i386 helps if you want to run i386-wine or other i386-specific software from amd64, mounting i386 partition on /compat/i386. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 18:56:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D94A7F57 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22c.google.com (mail-lb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58880610 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbcgn8 with SMTP id gn8so7780043lbc.2 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:56:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=weCRli+g4ubA/ABluLgNjaOmBwhCxDqGp4zyfZh0Iak=; b=FSCdj5drQ/6sP8RKs/Wi2am5ctkhrjOg0U4netUijyIiKlD6QuwfrQS9eNkdJ5ko08 WOAvbr+KindgK754aHWLx3OQbMTenUrrTWzcpGbXwSDVSpNmoXr1VDYige/lY3xLPU/F ortpHiTMBp08NyPy9+H8WyrPiUWPCdokRmETR27mfzU+xr1NP3BnFiZYcUtqVWM8D+Aj fGCMBKvCINkeOxkFn1tnfbWvUTUDdNlQ4nEshl5gNgYyHE/L55rzC0IUrUbnuGFAs4th Y08ma4rEMZkaPCaw/WclQlEK8X0tEBb9UEUD7M/4ubHUf44mPiH3JoUOT8w56pWie7/E i1Rw== X-Received: by 10.112.167.231 with SMTP id zr7mr52265435lbb.123.1426445762252; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:56:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.13.37 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:55:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:55:21 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Install amd64 over existing i386 To: Chris Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:56:04 -0000 On 15 March 2015 at 19:09, Chris Hill wrote: > Hi list, > > I bought a new machine the other day, and accidentally installed the i386 > version of FreeBSD on it even though it has a 64-bit processor. It works > fine, but I think I'd rather have the "right" version. So, two questions: > > 1. Is it even worth worrying about at this point? > > 2. Can I just install amd64 without destroying existing filesystems and > files? I realize I'll have to reinstall my ports, but that's OK. > > Thanks. > > More info below. Yes, the CMOS clock was set incorrectly when I did the > install. > $ uname -a > FreeBSD tripel.monochrome.org 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 > r274401: Tue Nov 11 22:51:51 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 > > Relevant part of dmesg: > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (3158.81-MHz > 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x1067a Family = 0x6 Model = 0x17 > Stepping = 10 > Features=0xbfebfbff APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI, > MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> > Features2=0x408e3fd TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE> > AMD Features=0x20100000 > AMD Features2=0x1 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > Why don't you just backup /etc and /usr/local/etc and reinstall? Usually, there is nothing architecture-specific in those directories, I think. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 18:57:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B695FE5 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036AA623 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:57:31 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Received: from gatekeeper.tellme3times.com ([69.70.25.74]) by VL-VM-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTP id <0NL9000TZNYO5YD0@VL-VM-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.7.61] (unknown [192.168.7.61]) by gatekeeper.tellme3times.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5253A2028A for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:42:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Kiakas Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Broken expat-2.1.0_2 ? Message-id: <4CC3AA89-3020-407F-B68F-45D5C3997139@tellme3times.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:42:24 -0400 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:57:32 -0000 While maintaining one of my systems I came onto an issue with = expat-2.1.0_2. It didn=E2=80=99t install libexpat.la. After rebuilding = and installing the port a couple of times I had to cp over the file = manually for cairo to build.=20 portsnap fetch update was run just prior with no errors. 9.1-RELEASE-p22 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p22 #7: Thu Nov 13 08:14:57 EST 2014= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 21:00:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27490977 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailrelay115.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay115.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA110347 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:00:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=wcGNbXEvJ1+lRvjKRe8ww5ZIB0ZoB9oB8wjQofnwvDA= c=1 sm=2 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=DWc1R-zAAAAA:8 a=0KAAciHjCHfwHZjoNY4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=T_JrKqPt6GMA:10 a=uF36m4m_2hgA:10 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2DrCADN8QVV/y+M8VFbgwZSWoMMwQaFdgQCAoEVTQEBAQEBAX2EEAEFIzMjEAsYAgIFIQICDyoeBhOIMwGrJZoxAQEBAQYBAQEBHoEhiXaEPjMHgmiBRQWUJYV6gVWJUIhwI4NvPTGCQwEBAQ Received: from 47.140-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.241.140.47]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 15 Mar 2015 21:58:51 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t2FKwnOR004412; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:58:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:58:49 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Chris Kiakas Subject: Re: Broken expat-2.1.0_2 ? Message-ID: <20150315215849.73aa2f74@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <4CC3AA89-3020-407F-B68F-45D5C3997139@tellme3times.com> References: <4CC3AA89-3020-407F-B68F-45D5C3997139@tellme3times.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 21:00:02 -0000 On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:42:24 -0400 Chris Kiakas wr= ote: > While maintaining one of my systems I came onto an issue with > expat-2.1.0_2. It didn=E2=80=99t install libexpat.la. After rebuilding and > installing the port a couple of times I had to cp over the file > manually for cairo to build. See /usr/ports/UPDATING entry 20140909. 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Sir pls help me by providing some appropriate solution From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 01:27:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80423FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 01:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 353B234C for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 01:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.196.81.173] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2015 01:25:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.205] by tm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2015 01:25:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2015 01:25:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 773347.19470.bm@omp1014.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 30987 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2015 01:25:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1426469143; bh=UdL13PtpOp4/OnlL1+93Ha5FQbXQqMZsGJp7GNKnZPM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nFhfrTloNmHaa1CzTKjPDciWCdPQW7BvN53p2FWUyee2xjDW4n1atvsLeHjUY0vZgMupq81jxtekdXoefOWF+YKzVrZPYEhEbPEnM1TrCs2zmfP9VSuNFLZKLjl/vArjiKEAb+P3k+79cYio2+M6uEFdK6gWbp4uT9rkgV7d/QM= X-YMail-OSG: KbBPSl8VM1k2PWXCFrnEs8EZV8miDocEMZtZEyDH.5.2e8x m7RWJYcDBzt7ps1t1wDRJlp1i.Zg_ISV5FQlPuke1YwjPZAFmOl5XF4bNJeA c4lwIQk_3fpk_AIgfMYjFzN028k_G9C9bGohuayibT1KXSgp8GyWjX2D01Ye 3eYD2gfGLi7BVNMogyt0hfx0KapXhqGPbKLOehNQPtrllZWaZ6amg1yJsEkF 1.sX1VUMdHONd_vWZvcNbNzexOmhUXCvO6FO4CTRi7GoESgeshPAWcC71LNo s6v8Ps3mSfEAHHTSEDnzM.qAMoFKBd1Jv5BDwfZlqN2AvThvqIwSqieHjGMK 5o8UFKSn0me2PLdM.f8D2fNARYUIJWgfOlzMtawK2wcFxbmkOUiKoEs5XflM OhYxp7yAzbqSuKA7ggviIv_IzgiXVyFbEuLL2sP6SH.GFGbOdmvRjOPNJkPQ 7cXPAV6EcjwTSCtHXNQ4G0R3ecjh8Muzo9y1AThDRasuExUyygYPxhXBNVHk EekkbqKg9RFBNKwwHhcJkGJDhwr8wHPuprHlkIW0TuIPokA4ADQD1XGuOqxu V1pzwmI1KS2wgJtF2RTyjkkpAxJgQ_nJ1bGhUvYnFdXt3os_pQveb3CkTv5G WANCIh9NRqpIqLdqaWz0ksJAcl5FN.eaUhZu4 Received: from [66.92.43.99] by web140905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:25:43 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, TG9uZyBzdG9yeSwgbW9yZSB0aGFuIEkgY291bGQgcG9zdCBoZXJlLiAgRmlyc3QgamFpbCB1c2FnZS4gVGhyZWFkIGZpbmFsaXplZCBtYXliZSBhdA0KZGFlbW9uZm9ydW1zLm9yZyAib3BlcmEgcHJvYmxlbSIgLi4uDQoNCm9sZGVyIHN5c3RlbSBbYmFja3VwXSBXT1JLSU5HIG9wZXJhIE1FTlUgZm9udHMgPj4gZnJlZSBkaXNrIHNwYWNlID4.IG5ldyBwYXJ0aXRpb24gPj4gDQpjcmVhdGUgamFpbCA.PiANCmluc3RhbGwgJiBjb25maWcgbmV3IFNUQUJMRSA.PiB3cml0ZSBvbGRlciBTVEFCTEUgd29ya2luZy0BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/406 YahooMailWebService/0.8.203.740 Message-ID: <1426469143.96209.YahooMailBasic@web140905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:25:43 -0700 From: Jeffrey Bouquet Subject: [SOLVED] jailed X application running from ordinary Xorg desktop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 01:27:48 -0000 Long story, more than I could post here. First jail usage. Thread finalized maybe at daemonforums.org "opera problem" ... older system [backup] WORKING opera MENU fonts >> free disk space >> new partition >> create jail >> install & config new STABLE >> write older STABLE working-MENU-font-opera libraries to it >> and programs for Xorg etc... >> [although to non-standard locations] The mini-howto on the forum thread... summarized in this three line paragraph: On the desktop start Xephyr ( :1) , a second X server On the jail start Xterm in Xephyr ( :1) On the jail start Opera in Xterm (:1), the working-menu-fonts opera. Works on CRT, maybe not on LCD *, yet. Myriad problems, but suddenly worked. So this was to be a post of all the things I've tried, but it suddenly worked ** , so they howto exists there on the web at least.... * xterm for some reason would not attach to :1 ... ** opera for some reason, once on the CRT and not the LCD again, suddenly not off-center... Although it should properly be a fully configured jail, a BHYVE, another virtualization, or fixed by some other not-known-method if not tediously reinstall... system is up past multiple disk failures since v5.x with the same newbie 2004 files here and there... though now GPT not MBR, SVN not CVSUP, etc. For the freebsd-questions archives anyway. J. Bouquet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 02:34:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8F437C6 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B04D669ED2 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:34:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=zrIQYeUiTIeH2zJhWmVEjELQdfGe2q5P+Mfer10r36A=; b=l++V8LNwydPMKa+SpiiaHXU1FkTXeNA1TGollQA4hKSFEdOdw2/5Tdr/U/Ezr01vpFR1mDLwLonqEd2dZoy79SnswDvdmwEWryPU0bwAqkTXeRJrBMlqSdgj9i40vVjytPGV0aqx8yfti3yKkMXHfZqO+ZbTX1iPcm5X+J/hQ5k=; Received: from [114.124.7.112] (port=60914 helo=B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YXKCJ-000YS4-QB; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:52:05 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:51:54 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Chris Hill Subject: Re: Install amd64 over existing i386 Message-ID: <20150316095154.7737928f@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Questions List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:34:21 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Chris Hill wrote: > I bought a new machine the other day, and accidentally installed the > i386 version of FreeBSD on it even though it has a 64-bit processor. > It works fine, but I think I'd rather have the "right" version. So, > two questions: > > 1. Is it even worth worrying about at this point? > depends on the RAM the machine has and the software you are running on it. > 2. Can I just install amd64 without destroying existing filesystems > and files? I realize I'll have to reinstall my ports, but that's OK. > Do you have some kind of writable USB media? Can you take a drive from a running amd64 installation and put it into this machine? Run a make installkernel and make installworld from there and set DESTDIR to the drive of the new machine. This method does not touch anything important except of the operating system. mergemaster should not be needed as the machine is new and should have nothing on it which was not put onto it by the installation routine. Erich > Thanks. > > More info below. Yes, the CMOS clock was set incorrectly when I did > the install. > $ uname -a > FreeBSD tripel.monochrome.org 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 > r274401: Tue Nov 11 22:51:51 UTC 2014 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Relevant part of dmesg: > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (3158.81-MHz > 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x1067a Family = 0x6 > Model = 0x17 Stepping = 10 > Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0x408e3fd > AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 16:48:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DDFCBB9 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02CF9F14 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 170CC3CD54; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:48:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t2GGmHMP002032; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:48:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:48:17 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chris Hill Subject: Re: Install amd64 over existing i386 Message-Id: <20150316174817.965dc5c0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:48:28 -0000 On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:09:19 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill wrote: > Hi list, > > I bought a new machine the other day, and accidentally installed the > i386 version of FreeBSD on it even though it has a 64-bit processor. There is no problem running i386 on an 64 bit processor. I'm doing this myself here because I need software which works best with i386 (wine, nvidia-driver), and I don't need support for larger address spaces because this PC has 2 GB RAM (which is fully sufficient for what I do). Do you have actual requirements for using amd64? If not, just keep using the installation you have. > It > works fine, but I think I'd rather have the "right" version. As I've said, "right" depends on your requirements: (a) Need i386-specific software that doesn't run easily on amd64? Then i386 is right. (b) Need amd64-specific software and need to support 4+ GB RAM? Then amd64 is right. (c) Neither (a) or (b) applies? Use what you have, stop worrying! :-) Keep in mind that just because the CPU is 64 bit, this does not limit you in choices. You can run i386 _or_ amd64 on a 64 bit CPU. Only amd64 _requires_ a 64 bit CPU (and this _is_ an actual requirement, by the software, not by the hardware). > So, two > questions: > > 1. Is it even worth worrying about at this point? This depends on what software you want to use and what hardware you need to support. Answer those questions first, and you'll know if you have to worry. :-) > 2. Can I just install amd64 without destroying existing filesystems and > files? I realize I'll have to reinstall my ports, but that's OK. If you have already configured stuff on the machine you want to keep using, copy /etc and /usr/local/etc. You can probably use that with the new version. However, as you plan a new install, you should clean the file systems first. The easiest way to do this is newfs. It's fast and sufficient. Destroying remaining files is a good idea before you start installing a new OS; "copying it over" just doesn't sound clean and correct. :-) As you said, you'll have to reinstall your ports afterwards, so not having any "garbage" around (from the old OS installation) is an advantage. > More info below. Yes, the CMOS clock was set incorrectly when I did the > install. > $ uname -a > FreeBSD tripel.monochrome.org 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 > r274401: Tue Nov 11 22:51:51 UTC 2014 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Relevant part of dmesg: > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz (3158.81-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x1067a Family = 0x6 Model = 0x17 Stepping = 10 > Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0x408e3fd > AMD Features=0x20100000 > AMD Features2=0x1 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics This hardware will run i386 just fine. I have this: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 4300 @ 1.80GHz (1799.82-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f2 Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 2 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe39d AMD Features=0x20000000 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) avail memory = 2081521664 (1985 MB) How much RAM do you have? Allowing the access to more RAM could be somthing you'll need amd64 for. For comparison, I'm running this: % uname -m i386 There's nothing in amd64 that _I_ need. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 17:02:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D16B1FB0 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A978517F for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F6C39DC2E for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76615-02 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tejay-2.local (cpe-75-82-83-187.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.83.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30B4239DC2D for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55070A5B.80201@networktest.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:52:43 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg delete --no-recursive References: <5502A4A0.8090704@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <5502A4A0.8090704@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:02:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 3/13/15 1:49 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 03/13/15 08:27, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> How to tell pkg delete to remove only *this* package and not all >> the ones that depends on it. > > pkg delete -f pkgname > >> There is a --recursive option, but it is applied by default and I >> don't see how to disable it. >> >> My goal is to remove perl5.14 in order to install perl5.20. All >> other packages that depend on perl5.14 will be rebuild afterward, >> so the dependecy will be updated accordingly. >> >> But in no case I want to delete all packages depending on perl, I >> *do* need them. > > The best way to do a perl5.14 to perl5.20 upgrade is by simply > upgrading from a package repo with all the perl stuff built against > perl5.20. Works like a charm, and only reinstalls the necessary > stuff. What command(s), specifically, to use? I also have the same problem upgrading php5 and php55 to php56. Thanks dn > > Trying to work out all this dependency stuff by hand tends to be > error-prone, tedious and leave your system in a bit of a mess. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVBwpbAAoJEDoYs7vtFALaNyMQAJtLwAp2PChzENYX6d3KObPk VKHeSDH3fnKHDCjN1m4/JAJD3HqifbI/B4oi8JHpq58l9Nj77IeE/aumV24qZ+zx 3gM7FC7CsEr0ZKSwAg3Wlv5Xwn73Fabnqgp+nnv4hQwiHlnq51PV/mElUxB8V+Pd IXTvMjDMvKL3GccvlgLzvLYC9Wg4Yyab0SN1tM8IQha/E4Mvv88jNXYqYIaQgCuh OYYDS/Mo6ShherqoYeYvFbzM/0rJ+Gzc1xD22YroZJFMvMj26DX7KQihKIv3Cjct 2HUxde49edV5AFJk+IxzQDmgFvD0BXwwvYTpSKbMaaBKmJyFeDI/VmbAy1j/KB/v i6eu/3GdR/E75F56IfJgA6Moq9Vz9JTPM61rpIHdA0Em1iAgUGab5XZHuaUhmiij S3oQZULLEAIP0Pd1DwXtrlU2k+YCbPMsTYl5oaaQLcbi4xVlgMAEcdWTFHXFatdL 5eAVUeM2Zi90WHPsf4TRu62Gq4ZMrx5rXpvxpS/ExiiJasfN8HEvJh320B2FLvkd V58E+n0aj2lGDrSkL4sjsY2+PDoPJrzdoyUewep27ASmDw6Z+ZSbU68h28b8J1Zx KC+5n31yfkwTaaIWccsZ7QW4290C1yFQLAcLK09ovm04CTGOYrskfIIpkHXzsp+h iHfhZIWtp1lq2AS5mpYs =JUiq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 17:30:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E235758A for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A12676BD for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 404B8252C9; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:23:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t2GHNkYM002328; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:23:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:23:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Sukhveer Yadav Subject: Re: USB mounting Message-Id: <20150316182346.68c59492.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:30:35 -0000 On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:44:54 -0700, Sukhveer Yadav wrote: > I have Micromax A177 . I rooted it to connect to USB drive . I followed all > directions provided but I failed . Which instructions exactly? https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/usb-disks.html Can you provide the commands you've been using, and maybe configuration file changes you made (if any)? Please provide the output of the commands "usbconfig" where the USB device should appear, and "camcontrol devlist" where the corresponding USB mass storage device should be listed. Check the smartphone settings regarding "USB media", "USB mass storage" or how it is called. It should enable the device to present a USB direct access device to the OS. The Micromax A177 is a smartphone running Android 4.2, for those mailing list readers who didn't google for it. :-) > Sir after connecting USB when I press > mount in stick mount app it shows > None in place of > sdcard/USB/.... What "stick mount app" are you using? Pleas provide the output of "mount -v" command and maybe the last lines of the "dmesg" command where the USB stick should show up. You can find examples on how to do this in the handbook page mentioned above. > Sir pls help me by providing some appropriate solution Please provide more information for identifying the actual problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Works like a charm, and only reinstalls the necessary >> > stuff. > What command(s), specifically, to use? pkg upgrade So long as the repo(s) you're using are all consistent in being built against the versions of perl or php or whatever that you want to use, that should do what you want. Generally it "just works"(tm). If it doesn't and it isn't obvious as to how to fix the problem (usually something along the lines of 'delete pkg X, upgrade everything else, reinstall pkg X') then ask again here. pkg(8) will tell you what it is going to do before it does anything, so you have plenty of chances to stop before you trash anything important. 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To: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:49:58 -0000 Migration of some sort is clearly going to happen. I have been dealing with this intermittently and it seems the debian folks are also. I didnt know that uw-imap was so totally ignored.. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D557103 Brian On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Trond Endrest=C3=B8l < Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no> wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2014 13:55-0700, Brian W. wrote: > > > Does anyone know what causes the alpine error inbox not in valid format= ? > A > > few times a year my wife gets this problem while I never do on my freeb= sd > > with postfix server. > > I've seen mailbox corruption with imap-uw on i386 when the mailboxes > reach a certain size. I'm not sure if the limit is higher on amd64. > > The corruption occurs at the beginning of the mailbox, with the > remaining messages being largely intact. You might need to perform > some surgery with dd or some other tool to skip the corrupted section > and extract the good messages to a new file. > > This corruption might be due to a buffer/integer overflow somewhere in > c-client. > > The above is probably a good enough reason to migrate to the maildir > format or at least trim your mailboxes regularly to avoid corruption. > > -- > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | > | Trond Endrest=C3=B8l, | Trond Endrest=C3=B8l, = | > | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | > | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gj=C3=B8vik Technical College, Norway, = | > | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | > | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | > +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 20:56:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69FD8521 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9BF85E6 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t2GKufq5013737 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:56:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:56:41 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Mailing List Subject: What does this error mean. Python and GCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:56:53 -0000 Hello list! Trying to get flatcam to run on FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 Python-2.7 When running; python FlatCAM.py it errors out with this. python FlatCAM.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "FlatCAM.py", line 3, in from FlatCAMApp import App File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAMApp.py", line 18, in from ObjectCollection import * File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/ObjectCollection.py", line 2, in from FlatCAMObj import * File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAMObj.py", line 5, in from camlib import * File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/camlib.py", line 12, in from numpy import arctan2, Inf, array, sqrt, pi, ceil, sin, cos, dot, float32, \ File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line 170, in from . import add_newdocs File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/add_newdocs.py", line 13, in from numpy.lib import add_newdoc File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/__init__.py", line 18, in from .polynomial import * File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/polynomial.py", line 19, in from numpy.linalg import eigvals, lstsq, inv File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/__init__.py", line 51, in from .linalg import * File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/linalg.py", line 29, in from numpy.linalg import lapack_lite, _umath_linalg ImportError: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found What does it mean, is it meaningful for any of you? Flatcam is here http://www.flatcam.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 21:29:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C13AB178 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com (mail-ie0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83D249EF for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iegc3 with SMTP id c3so186200301ieg.3 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:29:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=88GO+w8EioW4U/8yV2uC/JiQdQ+4T9KyH9dEHT8zSSo=; b=x9toOhuHdSHB/HLgMehNSkQJSlgktKG9ULT7F6rCAP+QiPcpeOHJGrShuH+wIg844D 8OWc+ZaGQmM0nqpnYxPK7FAMbg3ZgBz5b5pxLmjW8ykvUyaY3gA1UztK15baadWpjkcL oT8wVKupZ4oMVTSnYdii9xVtj5Uj5vBG1x7vt0Wz4YeZt8j3WQtJpdHal1KpuzY95Q4Z 8P2UOWUabExTHpF+vDUDrXpYe4QgXPxJW2tWXYx6Cxq6Ks5imvZFr1O1p7XvhiK0odSB pj0CwbjTPbtsDnp8yk894wN9bg9lTfiScndUqOgQwKPZyQQFX71Xk3MyB0eKV9agxf3Q FUWg== X-Received: by 10.50.79.230 with SMTP id m6mr112087427igx.33.1426541374863; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.115] ([66.11.161.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v13sm2916621igd.14.2015.03.16.14.29.33 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55074B37.6050800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:29:27 -0400 From: Manas Bhatnagar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What does this error mean. Python and GCC References: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:29:35 -0000 I think you don't have the gcc 4.6.0 library. It's looking in /lib/ so perhaps this was supposed to have been installed with the base? not really sure but those are my ideas. On 16-Mar-15 4:56 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > Trying to get flatcam to run on > FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 > > Python-2.7 > > When running; python FlatCAM.py it errors out with this. > > python FlatCAM.py > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "FlatCAM.py", line 3, in > from FlatCAMApp import App > File > "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAMApp.py", > line 18, in > from ObjectCollection import * > File > "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/ObjectCollection.py", > line 2, in > from FlatCAMObj import * > File > "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAMObj.py", > line 5, in > from camlib import * > File > "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/camlib.py", > line 12, in > from numpy import arctan2, Inf, array, sqrt, pi, ceil, sin, cos, > dot, float32, \ > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line > 170, in > from . import add_newdocs > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/add_newdocs.py", > line 13, in > from numpy.lib import add_newdoc > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/__init__.py", > line 18, in > from .polynomial import * > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/polynomial.py", > line 19, in > from numpy.linalg import eigvals, lstsq, inv > File > "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/__init__.py", line > 51, in > from .linalg import * > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/linalg.py", > line 29, in > from numpy.linalg import lapack_lite, _umath_linalg > ImportError: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by > /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found > > What does it mean, is it meaningful for any of you? > > Flatcam is here http://www.flatcam.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 21:30:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64BCF22F for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40AF5A07 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6CEED5B3BD24; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:30:18 -0700 From: David Benfell To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff801efdd1000: Listen queue overflow: 31 already in queue awaiting acceptance Message-ID: <20150316213018.GA97580@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:30:25 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I think I'm not doing this right. I'm seeing these messages in my nightly security log output. Googling around, I find I should increase kern.ipc.somaxconn. I have. Now to 4096. This in turn seems to mean I need to increase apc.shm_size in /usr/local/etc/php.ini and I have, now, to 1024M. But doing so brings back the first message, "sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff801efdd1000: Listen queue overflow: 31 already in queue awaiting acceptance." So after a couple iterations of this, I infer that there is some relationship between the two variables. But 1) I have no idea how to set them properly, and 2) I don't understand the relationship. What should I be doing? Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVB0tqAAoJEBV64x4SNmArWdoP/2MxyDISMINIZckcxZS4B4dt 2tRTTmELvPoBHHKDOc28yKv6zvqiirIAbhhiTM4RhWICQGkvmfgBJ3vsVRljFdVz mut7ACHXHTWKTxXdlsEqGkMTqCWDXQKIf7/fqaQU8oQoW2a7k4ZPLh9fmi5+oT+I AGQtRwxGxdyReUJfyVA1kxs+DONRzeFgVj3mj3ZWhA0dWg32IcjBKvLQ1ax2y4Fy 9y/91j0CZlGg2j+NN/JfWQSpLLcljePD+QpVPlAxW6prF7zLffJ1PPUCe1j2kY4Y kmarTKAa4R59bSKQ50ZZwKrgN7Ts1axMo+oEwEWqswN6rDIRvi7Z38vJg1W1n5SE q+oTWIxXQzvJ+Os1buthZU38fZ4YzVgbIqm5n963AQ7fbkLs2TX0WpGmyj2J66CO 5tsPPJD40tiQwi8kJXVvHQCx0ya+q58pinB52OwuESETa2agkPoxB3cONMhiAHQR U/RORia9UaM5TpXtmZKVFp+pJhAmn/4UlJbU6/VaCVbfm2WfUcBkk1T0y3YH1bSK D6KTdKvQBsVYQoP+M1uqjeeg9Dwttm1XWtCkqSd1LdqXMY3/yWAM688ATzrevUgC 1FJJT2uW5goCaoLVdTyD2xORvRkfpf80kZFgJeBXS36pdRUoMkrerzbpMZ+r5NDd Z2hkSJvnxmY7XDPwoguq =Zeac -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 21:49:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C901729 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F2A2C6D for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A2A39DC2E for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78846-03 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp130.eng.networktest.com (ns.networktest.com [12.20.174.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 22B4639DC2D for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55074FD8.6010508@networktest.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:49:12 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg delete --no-recursive References: <5502A4A0.8090704@freebsd.org> <55070A5B.80201@networktest.com> <55071554.5050904@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <55071554.5050904@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:49:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 3/16/15 10:39 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2015/03/16 16:52, David Newman wrote: >>> The best way to do a perl5.14 to perl5.20 upgrade is by simply >>>> upgrading from a package repo with all the perl stuff built >>>> against perl5.20. Works like a charm, and only reinstalls the >>>> necessary stuff. > >> What command(s), specifically, to use? > > pkg upgrade > > So long as the repo(s) you're using are all consistent in being > built against the versions of perl or php or whatever that you want > to use, that should do what you want. Generally it "just > works"(tm). If it doesn't and it isn't obvious as to how to fix > the problem (usually something along the lines of 'delete pkg X, > upgrade everything else, reinstall pkg X') then ask again here. OK, I'll take you up on that. :-) I've got a FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE box with 25 php55 packages installed. There's nothing about php in /etc/make.conf, and according to /usr/ports/UPDATING, the current default version of php is 5.6. However, 'pkg update && pkg upgrade' doesn't touch the php packages. I don't particularly _need_ php56* on this box, but I'd like to understand what the expected behavior is. Thanks! dn pkg(8) will tell you what it is > going to do before it does anything, so you have plenty of chances > to stop before you trash anything important. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVB0/XAAoJEDoYs7vtFALa/MYP/3oravGWIj5BHMqXrJXK5tYR tZp+SoJCnNLJcez7BfKg6WxTkMXDZJ2uGyL0lW5/h9yC4gEREmF2AG6OK+FGp+CT UaCe8cHDjj7BhkMdS/DbB26Aml2QC8MAwC7ga/75iW8wPWtmJgthn8/GAWE5RUiz FrQZ2DAKlsYyrdhL9UdVToWl1/yqY1IisdreYy6nrgTddSBhmlzNcALReBfrO0Kr K0ZjRxfsERmS5EMJUrMsy5SeqDSsUlhUVHtlVQWJSO9bI4uF1t1ah1HJq2mAFD8t 6oxLOCAgDCgmIMJkRS+pzhmXFdK9nJlxrq/Z8ndhquyHz5ODJVsJLDm5o4Nx1rDu sgZlULuHqEN6fn11kNZu/4I5NRNj5+3MHgNDiX5qB/V4CPsC3GB5KwUV4d1WO62d 02HwBOoO+FGcA3F6uH7kxUsIAfUBhNRqRNRVtKtiMao0hybQd2AHekQcisODSSa3 mTNztztK953v2dPu+UjTyGQLkK4vwR3q198qMwClXN1m0PTZtv7y8T+10z213x5S BOT7snDpKpA6G2unDFNTaHe8d+K4HJ+25QCA5cSuc4u8yzSSlllVQFO31NmFSosz SaXWB89qefczHipBSvBozg+OeSQy5zjA19TlWop+4RCXGxhk3FbObNZ1b3n9UF/2 xRxJux9fsXSleNocTPip =4SsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 22:06:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58396A21 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09973E43 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t2GLnh3T069151 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:49:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:49:43 -0500 From: dweimer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Problems getting result from DNSMASQ service Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:57 -0000 I am trying to setup DNSMASQ to use as a resolver for NGINX so that I can return a a result form the local hosts file for a reverse proxy resolution. I installed DNSMASQ from ports and configured it, it appears to be running correctly, but the client just times out. If I run it in foreground and watch it, DNSMASQ receives the query, forwards it to upstream server and sends reply. # dnsmasq -d -q dnsmasq: started, version 2.72 cachesize 150 dnsmasq: compile time options: IPv6 GNU-getopt no-DBus i18n IDN DHCP DHCPv6 no-Lua TFTP no-conntrack ipset auth DNSSEC loop-detect dnsmasq: reading /etc/resolv.conf dnsmasq: ignoring nameserver 10.50.20.6 - local interface dnsmasq: using nameserver 10.50.20.5#53 dnsmasq: using nameserver 10.50.20.4#53 dnsmasq: read /etc/hosts - 3 addresses dnsmasq: query[A] www.yahoo.com from 10.50.20.4 dnsmasq: forwarded www.yahoo.com to 10.50.20.5 dnsmasq: forwarded www.yahoo.com to 10.50.20.4 dnsmasq: reply www.yahoo.com is dnsmasq: reply fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com is 98.139.180.149 dnsmasq: reply fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com is 98.139.183.24 dnsmasq: query[A] www.yahoo.com from 10.50.20.4 dnsmasq: cached www.yahoo.com is dnsmasq: cached fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com is 98.139.183.24 dnsmasq: cached fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com is 98.139.180.149 dnsmasq: query[A] www.yahoo.com from 10.50.20.4 dnsmasq: cached www.yahoo.com is dnsmasq: cached fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com is 98.139.180.149 dnsmasq: cached fd-fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com is 98.139.183.24 The client doesn't get it though. # nslookup > server 10.50.20.6 Default server: 10.50.20.6 Address: 10.50.20.6#53 > www.yahoo.com ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Does anyone have any Ideas what I am missing, I tried searching online but I can't seem to find anyone else that has had this problem. I don't have any firewall between the devices, I get the same result running the query from the same machine as DNSMASQ service. I am running the service in a jail though, maybe that is having some sort of impact on the results? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 22:38:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5859A478 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in6.apple.com (mail-out6.apple.com [17.151.62.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A57719D for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.apple.com (relay2.apple.com [17.128.113.67]) by mail-in6.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id D5.92.04468.C7B57055; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e15-f79996d000001174-d1-55075b7c22b1 Received: from [17.149.230.73] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.230.73]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay2.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 65.8B.26186.E6B57055; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff801efdd1000: Listen queue overflow: 31 already in queue awaiting acceptance From: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <20150316213018.GA97580@home.parts-unknown.org> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:38:51 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <22987F08-3543-43BE-A06A-78E76437ADD2@mac.com> References: <20150316213018.GA97580@home.parts-unknown.org> To: David Benfell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FDorFsTzR5qcGulsEXrrL8sFt0nu5kd mDxmfJrP4nG9awpTAFMUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV8bVNeEFk3gqem8sYWxgfMDZxcjJISFgInHw VDcbhC0mceHeeiCbi0NIYC+jxKwZE5i7GDnAiq7vcICIT2WSmPHmPTtIA7OAlsSNfy+ZQGxe AQOJuae+gNnCAnkSx273MoL0sgmoSUyYyAMS5hSwkbh38ykriM0ioCrx9mkXC8QYSYmF79dB 2doSyxa+ZoYYaSXx4v5fsLiQgLVE+8RZYHeKCOhKbFl1iB3iNHmJnk3pIKdJCHxklWjf/5V9 AqPQLCTXzUJy3SwkKxYwMq9iFMpNzMzRzcwz00ssKMhJ1UvOz93ECAre6XaiOxjPrLI6xCjA wajEwxsgwRYqxJpYVlyZe4hRmoNFSZy3se9/iJBAemJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5q8SFGJg5OqQZG nr0e7uLTLLsSUrYHqW1e+S1Y+LL3q7sHotTeB0uw6Cpv+rFaa0X9vA1VqrvvlCl6+mQ/nJoT +8c60/jcXH23FwsCk27OlT29f+UGrkdvDp26fm/HD06Lt/lnZXO/3H3/z57lziSVzkUqC7b/ +TLjZ8/Ww5+22i6UVSuRXyV8PnGaZkPwiaLbv5RYijMSDbWYi4oTAaC5JE8/AgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPWZp25eNHuowbqNYhats/6yWHSf7GZ2 YPKY8Wk+i8f1rilMAUxRXDYpqTmZZalF+nYJXBlX14QXTOKp6L2xhLGB8QFnFyMHh4SAicT1 HQ5djJxAppjEhXvr2boYuTiEBKYyScx4854dJMEsoCVx499LJhCbV8BAYu6pL2C2sECexLHb vYwgc9gE1CQmTOQBCXMK2Ejcu/mUFcRmEVCVePu0iwVijKTEwvfroGxtiWULXzNDjLSSeHH/ L1hcSMBaon3iLDYQW0RAV2LLqkPsEGfKS/RsSp/AyD8LyUGzkBw0C8nUBYzMqxgFilJzEiuN 9BILCnJS9ZLzczcxgoKtodB5B+OxZVaHGAU4GJV4eAMk2EKFWBPLiitzDzFKcDArifB+U2IP FeJNSaysSi3Kjy8qzUktPsQozcGiJM7LwwmUEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2CyTJxcEo1MO41qJrx3bxX 6MtaobCjC7g97rH6Hfz/W173zu+LXmd94+PKf29cWsF3U+XaN6OV6wuZOFYZVV420N39Ld03 o6P97JsKqy9/L/11V3432SCKp8/xtKbHjWnG++vSmMqmr+YNuxP+aYtUcG5k5eH/a+t8L+y9 9nB7eapQjP+fazq5E6981zTOeqTEUpyRaKjFXFScCAA/FAF5MgIAAA== Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:38:59 -0000 On Mar 16, 2015, at 2:30 PM, David Benfell = wrote: > I'm seeing these messages in my nightly security log output. Googling > around, I find I should increase kern.ipc.somaxconn. I have. Now to > 4096. This in turn seems to mean I need to increase apc.shm_size in > /usr/local/etc/php.ini and I have, now, to 1024M. [ ... ] > But 1) I have no idea how to set them properly, and 2) I don't > understand the relationship. >=20 > What should I be doing? They aren't directly related. You generally need to increase = apc.shm_size suitable for however many PHP processes you're running-- generally via = mod_php in Apache or fastcgi for nginx and the like. The listen queue overflow means that your system is failing to process incoming requests fast enough to keep up. The bottleneck could be on a resource like CPU or memory, or serialization against a database table, or something else. (You'll want to identify the bottleneck.) Having a bigger listen queue can be helpful if you see transient bursts of high activity. However, if the load is not a brief spike, then you've only got 90 seconds or so with typical web clients before they decide to time out and drop the connection. Don't try growing the listen queue longer than that, because it won't = help-- in fact, it's counterproductive to system resources on an already-busy = system. (Thus notions like "surge queue tuning", "surge protection", etc on load-balancers commonly used for large sites.) Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 16 23:48:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9FFB208 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F055AEE for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7606D5B3BD24; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:48:57 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Charles Swiger Subject: Re: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff801efdd1000: Listen queue overflow: 31 already in queue awaiting acceptance Message-ID: <20150316234857.GA3587@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150316213018.GA97580@home.parts-unknown.org> <22987F08-3543-43BE-A06A-78E76437ADD2@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22987F08-3543-43BE-A06A-78E76437ADD2@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:48:58 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:38:51PM -0700, Charles Swiger wrote: >=20 > They aren't directly related. You generally need to increase apc.shm_size > suitable for however many PHP processes you're running-- generally via mo= d_php > in Apache or fastcgi for nginx and the like. I *am* running a bunch of php-fpm processes. Is there a formula for calculating this? >=20 > The listen queue overflow means that your system is failing to process > incoming requests fast enough to keep up. The bottleneck could be > on a resource like CPU or memory, or serialization against a database > table, or something else. (You'll want to identify the bottleneck.) Interesting. htop says I've got plenty of memory and CPU--it's a new server and I went big. That would seem to suggest mysql may not be performing well, which is a very strong possibility. Until relatively recently, I was trying to run on a VPS and then a rather small hosted server; I don't think I've revisited the mysql configuration since. Thank you very much. All this helps. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVB2vpAAoJEBV64x4SNmArr6oQAJKLhcDelboiWaayMjqoGinL ih2H0MURAqsfSRRVoCBmlUn4agqZrOwDJwOtf8lhcbwQr6JRViyc46HcCpQSXNza Xozf9Yy8Y0lXK7Q/yuLAeMYf59+HHaRBZRMiZOwsV1X41k1I70xEDV0AMEZcyIx2 H8BlWwNy8Ef6g+lO0YJWZMMnV4PG9iLLx7XUHJjSrQpT3Qy4eLowQH+DZZPZqMbn kJxJJOzwdyXp/v11HxDbwmh9KPRe3u8PCc9JSRDAP2WTOlTrhXGAwxBvnsR5xIwd niQg/EX49qfw2pwlWegjDv0iKlPTPWaClyptyRha+8DqERYOzf3QxlG+7OC62tbF E3H/zs8V+G7goH4oaXO8hwRGvqzO+jb5tFbE1UVxQ8ZCTTFUcxX8T87FxS4ffybt oPt4C1cxufApo2FH/CWYnFAIf3Evxkt0JpJOTsdB9rNXEXVDDlrWyTG4RAkzr+1m 9pHlrRdyBmBm6ezwTEDfjfC6X0lW3+tz7Q4WW69UhLguugLo3hkNYN/tY8D3p6Bd aUYKfTUOhbAWGRHEQisHjBDMYGvjT/k7QXmFRKfmsAkZrKi1nBYl0rkRLE/ryKYq OsZFwmhJ4AShhTXfE6GgImXBOflPCEphhxpSsiJXuo3Ng/+YoYm7gdGKN4fc/Twy h2rGYGBztd066kpSBRD2 =jc+1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 00:01:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ADB0493 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.151.62.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0A25CE8 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay8.apple.com (relay8.apple.com [17.128.113.102]) by mail-in2.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 19.EA.09031.9EE67055; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e11-f79f86d000002347-f9-55076ee9ad44 Received: from [17.149.230.73] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.230.73]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id A0.90.06911.EEE67055; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff801efdd1000: Listen queue overflow: 31 already in queue awaiting acceptance From: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <20150316234857.GA3587@home.parts-unknown.org> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:01:45 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <457B9A78-1A87-4CE9-BBD0-5813BDA352CE@mac.com> References: <20150316213018.GA97580@home.parts-unknown.org> <22987F08-3543-43BE-A06A-78E76437ADD2@mac.com> <20150316234857.GA3587@home.parts-unknown.org> To: David Benfell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCYpvsyjz3UoGOevkXrrL8sFt0nu5kd mDxmfJrP4nG9awpTAFMUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV8aESx1sBVd4Kv5/2szewDiVq4uRk0NCwETi /ZNeRghbTOLCvfVsXYxcHEIC+xgl5p/Zxw5T1L13OVRiKpPEhEdfmUASzAJaEjf+vQSzeQUM JOae+gJmCwvkSRy7DTKVg4NNQE1iwkQekDCngLXErnNHWEBsFgFViW3vH7NBjJGUWPh+HQuE rS2xbOFrZoiRVhIPrsxngdg7k1Hiz6fdYAkRAV2JLasOsYPMlxCQl+jZlA5SIyHwkVXi3Lo/ bBMYhWYhOW8WkvNmIdmxgJF5FaNQbmJmjm5mnpFeYkFBTqpecn7uJkZQCE+3E9zBeHyV1SFG AQ5GJR7eAAm2UCHWxLLiytxDjNIcLErivI19/0OEBNITS1KzU1MLUovii0pzUosPMTJxcEo1 MG62Mdr3YmeNEJdJx/vsN7z59q8f/ntquiNOJfyIH3e64bLVxipVT4ITImPvxX/5tlhnjdp/ OVPjkzsrZq1RZllhbnrpRo/+oRb+Kf3HdyvOKa3tEXfY/LTdbHWolFLm8i95D9c+nmqkJia/ 2/zz18RXuQa/2fe/4A6TfMA2M2HBM4MQV5X9vUosxRmJhlrMRcWJAKlDZdJCAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrELMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPWZp+67PPZQgw9PjCxaZ/1lseg+2c3s wOQx49N8Fo/rXVOYApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDImXOpgK7jCU/H/02b2BsapXF2MnBwSAiYS 3XuXs0HYYhIX7q0Hsrk4hASmMklMePSVCSTBLKAlcePfSzCbV8BAYu6pL2C2sECexLHbvYxd jBwcbAJqEhMm8oCEOQWsJXadO8ICYrMIqEpse/+YDWKMpMTC9+tYIGxtiWULXzNDjLSSeHBl PgvE3pmMEn8+7QZLiAjoSmxZdYgdZL6EgLxEz6b0CYz8s5BcNAvJRbOQjF3AyLyKUaAoNSex 0kIvsaAgJ1UvOT93EyMo5BoK03YwNi23OsQowMGoxMMbIMEWKsSaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmE95sS e6gQb0piZVVqUX58UWlOavEhRmkOFiVxXnlOoJRAemJJanZqakFqEUyWiYNTqoHRdPqTrnlh K7jDL+6/yV5qlrbYMdo/Juy+vtrVPz+VfuZOfd6fGv0vvlYiVK161f3KVwUtBdrvn2UeXjI1 meHDpnDRX/nXo7fvdVphc896QmyBwq/ns5QNYtMOBJnOCL08OfnaHL6NFXpf3I9fDklhvGo+ c4ekgQzPm1Mh+xpNl9S8jN6W2delxFKckWioxVxUnAgA9GKQJjUCAAA= Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:01:52 -0000 On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:48 PM, David Benfell = wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:38:51PM -0700, Charles Swiger wrote: >>=20 >> They aren't directly related. You generally need to increase = apc.shm_size >> suitable for however many PHP processes you're running-- generally = via mod_php >> in Apache or fastcgi for nginx and the like. >=20 > I *am* running a bunch of php-fpm processes. Is there a formula for > calculating this? There's an apc.php script which will look at your APC stats. >> The listen queue overflow means that your system is failing to = process >> incoming requests fast enough to keep up. The bottleneck could be >> on a resource like CPU or memory, or serialization against a database >> table, or something else. (You'll want to identify the bottleneck.) >=20 > Interesting. htop says I've got plenty of memory and CPU--it's a new > server and I went big. That would seem to suggest mysql may not be > performing well, which is a very strong possibility. Until relatively > recently, I was trying to run on a VPS and then a rather small hosted > server; I don't think I've revisited the mysql configuration since. >=20 > Thank you very much. All this helps. mysql is a likely candidate, particularly if it was an old setup and has not been tuned for the workload. For example, MyISAM is adequate for read-mostly stuff, but table-level locking tends to become a real = problem if you have more than a single admin instance doing writes. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/table-locking.html Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 04:45:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A20C8425 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B5C5C76 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0A66A5B3BD22; Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:45:17 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Charles Swiger Subject: Re: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff801efdd1000: Listen queue overflow: 31 already in queue awaiting acceptance Message-ID: <20150317044517.GA6069@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150316213018.GA97580@home.parts-unknown.org> <22987F08-3543-43BE-A06A-78E76437ADD2@mac.com> <20150316234857.GA3587@home.parts-unknown.org> <457B9A78-1A87-4CE9-BBD0-5813BDA352CE@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <457B9A78-1A87-4CE9-BBD0-5813BDA352CE@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:45:18 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 05:01:45PM -0700, Charles Swiger wrote: >=20 > There's an apc.php script which will look at your APC stats. >=20 It appears not to be compatible with php 5.5, which I guess raises the question of why I'm needing to adjust this value at all. In any event, I raised it to 2048M and *this* time didn't see a recurrance. We shall see. > >> The listen queue overflow means that your system is failing to process > >> incoming requests fast enough to keep up. The bottleneck could be > >> on a resource like CPU or memory, or serialization against a database > >> table, or something else. (You'll want to identify the bottleneck.) I found this article: http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/programming/t-optimizing-nginx-an= d-php-fpm-for-high-traffic-sites-2081.html It suggests a number of changes to sysctl oids (including a couple of, I guess, obsolete ones). I've imported these. I don't think my sites are really high traffic (I should be rich and famous if they were, right?) but the box seems able to handle it. > >=20 > > Interesting. htop says I've got plenty of memory and CPU--it's a new > > server and I went big. That would seem to suggest mysql may not be > > performing well, which is a very strong possibility. Until relatively > > recently, I was trying to run on a VPS and then a rather small hosted > > server; I don't think I've revisited the mysql configuration since. > >=20 > > Thank you very much. All this helps. >=20 > mysql is a likely candidate, particularly if it was an old setup and has > not been tuned for the workload. For example, MyISAM is adequate for > read-mostly stuff, but table-level locking tends to become a real problem > if you have more than a single admin instance doing writes. >=20 > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/table-locking.html Looking at that, I'm not sure I dare mess with it. None of this is code I'm writing myself and the one thing left on that page that I could do would change the order of updates, which, intuitively more than anything else, sounds unwise. But I've installed mysqltuner and so I guess I'll be increasing some variables until (assuming it ever can be) it is happy. Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVB7FcAAoJEBV64x4SNmArdvQP/1i73by0vFE9OdVgyaccftop l32zgtzmRNJEmBWKHj5ebdVTFhbFZIvBdS60FLbXiZFQ5x61AtOwgmuGRn9FCKSo vaQ1LHMrqLqEOMK6sMH6UdBjeQK/BuxMIwBMKup6bHtuDzhefbQdhww28Vcla2s6 CSm2zmNfITQveM8jbTTtKJJnfxWJzPD5QSpYIF8aBuqxeWmK59huE85H8quNHlKt HMJtcUo3t8ic62it3B1juFZPaTwYCcVRTJq4uviHYbUD1plfyhT2QuiS1TUbe4Nb ePZ8TRRzwVElqTNik5FYDeHZsEzUv8hcs13br1+Iypv5wbkJxWMviVOahaV7SjR7 FBQzAsAPgldJ4EZY6GAyzE69T6RyeHuuGIMBhu6B2/Amj328DI4+Y0aKpM+6Kfkd LjP4DalWQnNvwmmJpWRuY456D0FAGgyIdB2+GY9wteBjQTHJxUQlsdVsd9GAn7xy fKRtEzsugES0bEWcA0SIi6/u674vJTBUJ87xGHaH/dcfieLuCNYBxeZXXLJhFFqS 1XjUlogBUxddnEQV9g9/tFCLRcyeV2nJNSI9YTMZWMYry25k/VhNt05YhgUxQ8z8 RAVYTYzWPDCRzhwKeE9pDHMPxYpyqLJTouM4kigJDbYM7h2za7sVobC0OV9bQPUA kj1ACvR1gr7rAbLL1mCp =Y0Sj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 12:16:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7409F9B9 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3806965A for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (unknown [82.246.30.233]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37ADD48042 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:15:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net (Postfix, from userid 2000) id E73BE2841B; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:16:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:16:29 +0100 From: Harald Weis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getmail problem Message-ID: <20150317121629.GA1077@pollux.local.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150313160659.GA4425@pollux.local.net> <20150313140227.63f60ec1@lapsdeb> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150313140227.63f60ec1@lapsdeb> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:16:34 -0000 On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:02:27PM -0400, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:06:59 +0100 > Harald Weis wrote: > > What could be the cause for the following error message: > > > > SimpleIMAPSSLRetriever:hawei@imap.free.fr:993: > > getmail-hawei-rc: operation error (command: LOGIN => socket error: > > EOF) > > > It would be my first instinct to blame the remote server, but I don't > want to jump to conclusions too quickly. You could run tcpdump (or > wireshark if you want a GUI) to get more of an idea of what's causing > it. I have used getmail with Gmail in the past through a cronjob and > it's worked quite well. I assume you're using the latest version of > getmail? getmail version 4.46.0 seems alright. Many thanks for your quick response. It took me some minutes to read the manpage... tcpdump -r tcpdump.20150315 yields: reading from file tcpdump.20150315, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet) 10:12:25.310195 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [S], seq 2335683307, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 6305545 ecr 0], length 0 10:12:25.334585 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [S.], seq 260976228, ack 2335683308, win 42340, options [mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 11], length 0 10:12:25.334663 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [.], ack 1, win 1026, length 0 10:12:25.400969 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [P.], seq 1:518, ack 1, win 1026, length 517 10:12:25.428336 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [.], ack 518, win 22, length 0 10:12:25.437395 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [.], seq 1:1461, ack 518, win 22, length 1460 10:12:25.439555 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [P.], seq 1461:2918, ack 518, win 22, length 1457 10:12:25.439619 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [.], ack 2918, win 1003, length 0 10:12:25.473963 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [P.], seq 518:716, ack 2918, win 1026, length 198 10:12:25.500582 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [P.], seq 2918:3152, ack 716, win 22, length 234 10:12:25.606792 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [.], ack 3152, win 1026, length 0 10:12:25.629911 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [P.], seq 3152:3205, ack 716, win 22, length 53 10:12:25.630558 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [P.], seq 716:806, ack 3205, win 1026, length 90 10:12:25.654806 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [P.], seq 3205:3322, ack 806, win 22, length 117 10:12:25.657039 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [P.], seq 806:912, ack 3322, win 1026, length 106 10:12:25.721075 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [.], ack 912, win 22, length 0 10:13:25.683249 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [P.], seq 3322:3391, ack 912, win 22, length 69 10:13:25.683435 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [FP.], seq 3391:3428, ack 912, win 22, length 37 10:13:25.683641 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [.], ack 3429, win 1024, length 0 10:13:25.689197 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [P.], seq 912:1002, ack 3429, win 1026, length 90 10:13:25.691142 IP pollux0.15365 > imap.free.fr.imaps: Flags [F.], seq 1002, ack 3429, win 1026, length 0 10:13:25.713538 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [R], seq 260979657, win 0, length 0 10:13:25.713960 IP imap.free.fr.imaps > pollux0.15365: Flags [R], seq 260979657, win 0, length 0 tcpdump -X -r tcpdump.20150315 is a bit longer (6148 bytes). But I'm afraid you need to see the data as well. Also, I don't know whether it is safe to send the file on-list. So whether you like it or not :-) I'll send you the file. Thanks again, Harald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 19:44:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D74EC93 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x22a.google.com (mail-qg0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27413FF2 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qgfa8 with SMTP id a8so18479157qgf.0 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:44:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pFsV6MCx0tJmkAqEOb5JUNW5H2OphMJKd8V9Q5bZo5o=; b=rkLbC6tAXpM8TcAfPyPIE0TXhULqNn8z0m4I9MC6LexV+BTElVfgSVSpcIDGc7GGKK ETChYdE9GrqILt3inTp2TDTWCuc5XUrcaoFriE9a4irnFHn30IPxLewBAdNbU6fTHE3d Bwd9zBQ0XFiNh3KN1tBrcT1ebKrEo1wHW6VKX48+gMIKHMjvziaNcphCAY1abBkGnOX8 SjB+nKWoY3ePD8sQuFYS8C4EASVUVlEOAV+oedupuLLWDrUNsoNtx0sPH8KDEhZ4NFa1 LcLoKArW0koESFRsZcV7ffc0xjBgktiQHXVzTQYqwe9eB+pUIcoSFhRu/sJusL1CQJYm 8gLw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.19.159 with SMTP id 31mr90106899qkt.24.1426621471238; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.249.198 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:44:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Configuration Management Options From: Alex Thomas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:44:32 -0000 Looking for some information on using various configuration management tools on freebsd. I have see reports of using puppet and have also heard that the freebsd cluster is using saltstack. Can anyone point me in the direction of getting more information on how well each of these run on freebsd? Thank you, Alex Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 23:25:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8D316FA for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A689F2C for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagg8 with SMTP id g8so22224951lag.1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yHxFp2abcQF3RbebjL2gahyKK/eU+AQDkSWGyhsY5fA=; b=DiUQR4FisFz1UW+fzblIeIIXPOCVAfKk7SgGF1yxQTllNBHmKtGiTU8yNoMJewVvvg yD28M95shtqLkOEiGzZv87YimMkAoDoEfTYpqf3L8JGAB2fekPvKacPlsw7z3zNb+E/l QN08BUhSj7VCDqr9ZNYtc4Lxunv7LGjIPmfhGo7CPmlQx2fzXJ9QABCYJ5w6ZlBS+sP+ 7VNtnAA49yynmOt5z+4YYnfBm56WWZQJPtGHS1KPs08bPTp89wxx7iNa+7O0//8T1q5j rAwrY+b5dYrkQS9qOMhtnbn902qjUtpgH3lu0bBs70ig1yrV/sgckogYIaPadE/CtybZ IQwg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.22.1 with SMTP id z1mr50244237lae.114.1426634709171; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.212.1 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:25:12 -0000 Hello, I use the base system sendmail instead of ports procmail because: - documented in manual - security problems are described in FreeBSD announcements - easy updates with freebsd-update - infrequent updates For the same reasons, I'd like to run the base system's unbound to authoritatively host my DNS... but FreeBSD is discouraging me in section 29.7.2 of the manual. Why the discouragement? === https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-dns.html Section 29.7.2 While the base system package can be configured to provide resolution services beyond the local machine, it is recommended that such requirements be addressed by installing Unbound from the FreeBSD Ports Collection. === Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 23:28:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E4CB7E0 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x232.google.com (mail-qg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2221F58 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qgh62 with SMTP id 62so23476493qgh.1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=Hwm4uJAd4HVboTY6CByjfgiu5WXjmCrckOPNrmMuurg=; b=wt31KTeOVFXgH4vvkalDy5/vcamUVP/nPZ+IjtCp8PN2bc5Nj6cO7YX8+YvB9peWJh sja/nIDeYwumIjxaMU7ae8qxp2ug7dSol4oFZt9lTM4oLgpvH6CIU27nshhthjP/YT4n aMA7IpsKz/giwFaY/apHesPAmQBINi3HOcG5XzAi7M+g1LeY52fMO7mS9aTPBKX2wMaL 7zINqoTDnHrVWQzWyPNkOG+3aEJ9TMPf7B7RZ5Koe1ILOAEwy3UsWAgAewKVDCwUlxCj cYGNhHg85COVZHErPXgcryJo2gU/3YvScndA4b5iIyK+nEbEYi0nQqfg2qhqQYP10V9K WMkg== X-Received: by 10.140.100.181 with SMTP id s50mr6601862qge.1.1426634936131; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lapsdeb (207-172-207-96.c3-0.upd-ubr1.trpr-upd.pa.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.207.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z143sm10643428qhd.40.2015.03.17.16.28.55 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:28:47 -0400 From: Stephen R Guglielmo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server Message-ID: <20150317192847.5b39d1c8@lapsdeb> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/roZqb2L4AvujN/jt+fzWjRY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:28:57 -0000 --Sig_/roZqb2L4AvujN/jt+fzWjRY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > For the same reasons, I'd like to run the base system's unbound to > authoritatively host my DNS... but FreeBSD is discouraging me in > section 29.7.2 of the manual. Why the discouragement? Unbound is only a validating caching resolver. It *can't* be authoritative. --Sig_/roZqb2L4AvujN/jt+fzWjRY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVCLi2AAoJEA8nk/BQet6Lwi8P/jUNMEcKc7LViap07mQOBKvO LuD+URZ0hl2mYX/BbfXBUxfrAf2sRMdukzQVD50fmp2h2bTSPORrr5NoZ4vMjr6L R3YcUYTKtWoRS4iYp2MIODZv5/Eekt4sAHMvSbfLRfiQ6yIEwrdxNogzlM34rHn2 q2+iri+jPPked9cWtg0LJGOB50mf5Iq5bednwrqzEX3/ZKsFWbLCqSgFISCHiwxU 2a56NbS68JS6FhDw4o88bjf4AAD7YUw/FZoBpL562MdRlsGkVozQO/6S4g5s/gIh +6NQNwq2/uPzGI1N3tXF/naQUGF+WF5htYJe3k6jW7yFS8PWB5dV/ADMk0M/S6pC ef890aXKsnPZ2NCILivq0AlhZSp7XxJ4SQ1oizx/xqJnpPHMJglx9IMGUi7bJphl kJOedRcaY9QhM8MhqYtid7zKgBJQWxHl1P6jFUu/djeV6aQCIcF8xfco8rHz9zrW 0wY3c0EUZde286Cv7uRq0SgIpS9+noBZiSRWOA5/IoehGAZIZnyv0ulHO9iSpNhN ltxFCzySQScVDgeh+CO2CHRTPCYCOk1bJr/VaKbGw1bKHMEhX6otjZWH/0u9XhXK b8GK/62GRjoEniLyNERVhWvghM17DU05m3Vew98PfVUtWVkxR7wK/Jzr+afWImOK HSe3A5dzFuwakyBJSqlm =vLDE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/roZqb2L4AvujN/jt+fzWjRY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 23:31:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A029B8A0 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x231.google.com (mail-pd0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71D9C6C for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdbop1 with SMTP id op1so23697593pdb.2 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:31:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vRiu+IrT2k8i4f4utqKrkEwyLQP1QUcvafwTk96uSH8=; b=Sl7vua4DKAsLGTLqh1fHyXDFmkE5PD56CTAHQD+F1DTYoVBD28BV+tU8DehojCzxOo 37XLftNlBbbh5ZGY1Yx9xjImRHUc/yDOCV5vDxDPuMh7C2zAE3Ar1ap6cNdEWoviDrT0 E5+HHrr9JJm/oO/cTyxiwVzmoa7KtUS7b3X1123LVFwdcqK6+XtQmXJvDIJYZdaiPmHq FhzbZ3UgPl1p07YFhVRg/ad35KMyrWo46fdnHkexInyAKPBIIyk32KcnpRY9OTdhLnLB jiM0m4l0K7aeUe0d3Uq18PtmIMy2swYzWVEYz5dSv27qmji0Yl+sgl6/YArr/q80aU4P 7fOA== X-Received: by 10.70.88.172 with SMTP id bh12mr136552864pdb.52.1426635110064; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([209.12.167.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y1sm24186945pdb.74.2015.03.17.16.31.49 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:29:47 -0700 From: Jungle Boogie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:31:50 -0000 Dear Chris, -------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stankevitz Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server > Hello, > > I use the base system sendmail instead of ports procmail because: > - documented in manual > - security problems are described in FreeBSD announcements > - easy updates with freebsd-update > - infrequent updates > > For the same reasons, I'd like to run the base system's unbound to > authoritatively host my DNS... but FreeBSD is discouraging me in > section 29.7.2 of the manual. Why the discouragement? > I use unbound from base _only_ at home for recursive DNS stuff. If I were to make it authoritative for a domain, I'd use ports or packages because they are updated more frequently over what's it base. If you're going to actually to authoritatively resolve for your domain, I think you want NSD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSD > Thank you, > > Chris -- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 23:39:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3522C9EF for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:39:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x244.google.com (mail-we0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4D34BD for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wesu56 with SMTP id u56so1947277wes.1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:39:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uVfSISyzYuHIjgdkp/Y5ZogcfmNkPtgrFCYOXStfzQE=; b=t1W+yWcNSFEZP5OPXfi9o/2fTAj/BHmg9Di4RzeB9T8qSXLIUR6o0ZujQyf42J22rr vBYjfZwHZyQC9BYKuL4n7UBxMspqfg5t4UyAF9nNxzuHhtVt8sZdR9sJrQ6vy+kGIlQ0 zxmJyHtnMo20gqR4Kk+lcEEAecDpNDepjPyNxUwaCEbZXOWGDN5FkUZS9sxlB+idvSgm d4ras7kuiRCOXX+iQkUT6JMYbuIxhe7HiIgpzWclYudXtD+SBVRsJr9UP5QAaOolEdSH gdsI3VwB3twq7YRYNoe17gz9wvmixt0ohUvec2uxIOpk3QZ6+lO5HJuEQQP8Qhs67oNI Vkjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.95.4 with SMTP id dg4mr96461991wjb.81.1426635597372; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.119.66 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.119.66 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:39:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: USB mounting From: Sukhveer Yadav To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:39:59 -0000 Pls tell me that sir if rooted Micromax A177 supports USB mounting or not .if yes then tell me instructions for that as those given in site do not seem to be work . I have es file manager .stickmount .pls help me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 17 23:43:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3783BAA1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x235.google.com (mail-qc0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB943174 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcbkw5 with SMTP id kw5so24515837qcb.2 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:43:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=FJZDnsWA5Q2jUFjuoQjvEEaUKlhIkCrRyUYlGHopk4g=; b=v2qaghvZ3ADwz8TDNZfcDrIyQsWRmHTb37blyzV72aYOdVmd4QXAO844JAhG1/GRMT F6xd8elsbCHVwfkw19+R8n/5Ee6HIpHP5ZzebUbUJwcDkuiNteOhc7CgC95q8+fSHfdu 9zUgEEcWCxmV1cIEKljpbNRCIDHoKVfTjyi4Pv0hg4+RV03s58bqJlgcAeCX+D2T1jz0 oiOGz2gHLZjXGB8A7nO1GNe3tbuPVr8t96fm7OBsHFfursuKKe6UbmBJL4LmsWPwTDhJ A2pDk0JkmfUDeIKOr+L8uGSonCEh/k3nWuLdrI98C3l2rcghY+FRbSLPWClaTBfMfPKq JJ/g== X-Received: by 10.140.135.200 with SMTP id 191mr89021694qhh.25.1426635788909; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lapsdeb (207-172-207-96.c3-0.upd-ubr1.trpr-upd.pa.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.207.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w186sm10680199qkw.27.2015.03.17.16.43.08 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:43:02 -0400 From: Stephen R Guglielmo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getmail problem Message-ID: <20150317194302.53b8dea5@lapsdeb> In-Reply-To: <20150317121629.GA1077@pollux.local.net> References: <20150313160659.GA4425@pollux.local.net> <20150313140227.63f60ec1@lapsdeb> <20150317121629.GA1077@pollux.local.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/_PDg1DSoWBuQQNLjaUJ3VwW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:43:10 -0000 --Sig_/_PDg1DSoWBuQQNLjaUJ3VwW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:16:29 +0100 Harald Weis wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 02:02:27PM -0400, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:06:59 +0100 > > Harald Weis wrote: > > > What could be the cause for the following error message: > > >=20 > > > SimpleIMAPSSLRetriever:hawei@imap.free.fr:993: > > > getmail-hawei-rc: operation error (command: LOGIN =3D> socket > > > error: EOF) > >=20 > >=20 > > It would be my first instinct to blame the remote server, but I > > don't want to jump to conclusions too quickly. You could run > > tcpdump (or wireshark if you want a GUI) to get more of an idea of > > what's causing it. I have used getmail with Gmail in the past > > through a cronjob and it's worked quite well. I assume you're > > using the latest version of getmail? >=20 > getmail version 4.46.0 seems alright. >=20 > Many thanks for your quick response. > It took me some minutes to read the manpage... >=20 > tcpdump -X -r tcpdump.20150315 is a bit longer (6148 bytes). > But I'm afraid you need to see the data as well. > Also, I don't know whether it is safe to send the file on-list. > So whether you like it or not :-) I'll send you the file. >=20 > Thanks again, > Harald I looked at the tcpdump file you sent me off-list. If you want to read it yourself, you can install Wireshark and open the file. I'm not an expert, but it looks to me like your client (the 192.168 IP) is sending a FIN packet (third line from the bottom). This is a request to close the connection[1]. The remote system then sends a RST to reset the connection. So it seems to be your end terminating the connection. It's quite possible that it's something other than getmail itself (your local router?) that is doing this for some reason. I'm not really sure where to go from here; maybe somebody else can chime in to help. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol#Connection_term= ination --Sig_/_PDg1DSoWBuQQNLjaUJ3VwW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVCLwLAAoJEA8nk/BQet6LlkkP/jomCNW08h34ZUV1ni0kXFZ4 GEEwv1MP0s6/jqMe3BFydrUaLMwmc/0eUIn7B38taFRRTgxW4DuMS5SsfAxcPrA9 rjKZEsW3FpIr8GqI7Uk3C/s/MsKaRDDd2TIRerE4PUSTJ3hVN1ZduA6d7lrtFQzD uvTd7ROuOin9CWuxUlHgg+3mKHEfen2Y2DEyT82QVxd5JYaYpHWJOv2VdY58j1Cd yyX7d6ispQoA3ndxSMCZvP2BEkohnFj5llbkQGCceqA3j+zY+64P/AUwwqg1+nTk SArXMGTp0bNeUmruLl9mczYGRgMrPxNDxGMHKdTL1rXiwt/hX1lpEw91Wt1t8WuY sZ9Vr+hq+pXgy1RZ1iWeinvHKsdHwCeNjByuXhre/VApYxfYiOCSVwRZRUnxvoV5 T5v5o6HTfZKzBcGfEj9WOKFAeJj5jClC2Ss/jz3eSUksoct2a4+99my/vmBsh/jV Wy3zTtQ757TxlhpNdkvd/WyUZ3Uyue3tjtHAr4C+fWkztyVQIvk+dI/RFpyVZ4AH 0SsA5eoQlWWNoGoT0cXjgkhFezh4rl6ZZ1yZ8UwYy38LBkXXaCv6YTFxmaiJQtnI hbf9OKDheZKGRATv+CSzVZ9457OcTR2EVmuknyaF8+qYXXNTTy1ZhCJt/ObeGOUw +QQTMmcdqgatm0nc1FNF =BBej -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/_PDg1DSoWBuQQNLjaUJ3VwW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 00:29:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96CA7F68 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C2827E6 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE66F276AB; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:29:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t2I0Tmss002156; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:29:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:29:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Sukhveer Yadav Subject: Re: USB mounting Message-Id: <20150318012947.bd900a37.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:29:58 -0000 On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:39:57 -0700, Sukhveer Yadav wrote: > Pls tell me that sir if rooted Micromax A177 supports USB mounting or not I have no idea. You should ask this question to the maintainers of the rooting tools. But you can already do many diagnostic steps on your FreeBSD system in order to see if all the involved parts are there: USB connection, mass storage access, direct access driver, file system support. If you follow the examples, you'll quickly find out if it supports USB mounting or not. Not all devices do... I'll provide an example, but I will use a normal USB (storage) stick for explanation purposes. When your smartphone has been configured to expose a comparable interface, the steps should be similar. I will trim the output a little, in order to emphasize the important lines. After plugging the device in and giving it few seconds to "settle", you check what the system has been recognizing. See the last lines of the "dmesg" output: # dmesg [...] ugen4.3: at usbus4 umass1: on usbus4 da3 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 da3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers da3: 3826MB (7835648 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 487C) First, "ugen" (generic USB device) must be recognized. This indicates that the USB connection is there. Then "umass" is shown: a mass storage device. This device is then "connected" to the direct access driver: "da" is shown. You know that "ugen4.3" corresponds to your device. You can now request more information about its capabilities: # usbconfig -d 4.3 dump_device_desc ugen4.3: at usbus4, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON bLength = 0x0012 bDescriptorType = 0x0001 bcdUSB = 0x0200 bDeviceClass = 0x0000 bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000 bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000 bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040 idVendor = 0x054c idProduct = 0x0243 bcdDevice = 0x0200 iManufacturer = 0x0001 iProduct = 0x0002 iSerialNumber = 0x0003 bNumConfigurations = 0x0001 Good so far. You can verify now that the system has properly picked up a direct access media to mount: # camcontrol devlist at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (da3,pass4) Now check if there are partitions to mount. You now use da3 (or with which number it hopefully appears on your system) as the device name. # gpart show da3 or # fdisk da3 will display the partitioning. You will have to mount /dev/da3 or /dev/da3s1, depending on partitioning scheme "applied". Maybe you can also configure that on the smartphone itself. To test, you do this: # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da3 /mnt or # mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da3s1 /mnt and verify the output of # mount -a to list the device properly mounted: /dev/da3 will be mounted at /mnt. You may add more mount options for convenience, as well as set an entry in /etc/fstab. Here is an example on how to do this: /dev/da3 /media/micromax msdosfs rw,noauto,noatime,-m=644,-M=755 0 0 Now that you're done, unmount it again. # umount /mnt Now you can then simply use # mount /media/micromax Just make sure the mountpoint does exist and you have the proper permissions. To avoid permission-related issues, you can do the testing as root. If everything works, just set up the permissions for your regular user account. You can read more about how to do this in the handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/usb-disks.html This chapter covers the neccessary parts of mounting USB media. > .if yes then tell me instructions for that as those given in site do not > seem to be work . Which site? Please be specific so list members can look it up. > I have es file manager .stickmount .pls help me I don't know about "es file manager". But for diagnostic purposes, which are the _first step_ you should take, no file manager is needed, just basic OS tools as shown above. For better help, please provide more detailed information on _what_ documentation you did follow, which steps you've taken (commands used), what the result was (output) and which additional troubleshooting you did (verifications and prequisites). For now, it's nothing more than wild guessing. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:57:18 -0000 Hi, I have a fresh install of 10.1-STABLE.Everything is fine but when I try to = update this is what I get: root@owncloud:/usr/home/beastie # freebsd-update fetchLooking up update.Fre= eBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.Fetching public key from update5.freebs= d.org... failed.Fetching public key from update4.freebsd.org... failed.Fetc= hing public key from update6.freebsd.org... failed.Fetching public key from= update2.freebsd.org... failed.Fetching public key from update3.freebsd.org= ... failed.No mirrors remaining, giving up. Or with debug:root@owncloud:/usr/home/beastie # freebsd-update -v debug -s = update5.freebsd.org fetchLooking up update5.freebsd.org mirrors... none fou= nd.Fetching public key from update5.freebsd.org... fetch: http://update5.fr= eebsd.org/10.1-STABLE/amd64/pub.ssl: Not Foundfailed.No mirrors remaining, = giving up. No matter which server I use it keeps giving me the public key error. I can= 't understand what is happening, the network is fine. root@owncloud:/usr/home/beastie # uname -aFreeBSD owncloud 10.1-STABLE Free= BSD 10.1-STABLE #0 r279796: Mon Mar =C2=A09 16:15:17 UTC 2015 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =C2=A0amd64 What am I missing?Thanks!Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 01:01:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4D8E3AD for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75971BA4 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:60096] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 95/E8-05031-0EAC8055; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 00:46:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=GangGreene.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YY27s-0003UF-Ie for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Mar 2015 20:46:24 -0400 Message-ID: <5508CAE2.4060300@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 20:46:26 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server References: <20150317192847.5b39d1c8@lapsdeb> In-Reply-To: <20150317192847.5b39d1c8@lapsdeb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:01:50 -0000 On 03/17/15 19:28, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 > Chris Stankevitz wrote: >> For the same reasons, I'd like to run the base system's unbound to >> authoritatively host my DNS... but FreeBSD is discouraging me in >> section 29.7.2 of the manual. Why the discouragement? > Unbound is only a validating caching resolver. It *can't* be > authoritative. I am using unbound as an authoritative DNS resolver for my home network, it also is the caching resolver. It runs on a raspberry pi under FreeBSD 11. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 01:45:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA464A64 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D947FC7 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4418691 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:45:39 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wqNBMzQpzN7G for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:45:38 +0800 (WST) Received: from egeria.internal (egeria.au.calorieking.net [192.168.2.111]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC5158D for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:45:38 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <5508D8C2.7090303@calorieking.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:45:38 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuration Management Options References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:45:56 -0000 On 18/03/15 03:44, Alex Thomas wrote: > Looking for some information on using various configuration management > tools on freebsd. I have see reports of using puppet and have also heard > that the freebsd cluster is using saltstack. Can anyone point me in the > direction of getting more information on how well each of these run on > freebsd? We happily use Puppet to manage entire machines, including things like freebsd-update, package installation, services, configuration files, and even a few user accounts. Support for packages has improved with the move to pkgng, so we no longer use our custom built portupgrade package provider. We use this module instead: https://forge.puppetlabs.com/zleslie/pkgng If we were now starting from scratch, I'm not sure whether we would use Puppet, Salt, Ansible, Chef or something else, and if Puppet then I'm not sure if we would start out by managing entire machines as we do, or just start with smaller components and then build up as required. But we're not, so I don't have to make those decisions right now! HTH, Greg. 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See DESCRIPTION in https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dfreebsd-updat= e&sektion=3D8 --------------------------------------- Raven Iqqe Mail: raviqqe@gmail.com ---------------------------------------= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 07:48:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AC8CC67 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BABB2ADC for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.local ([192.168.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t2I7mfOc065876 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:48:42 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t2I7mfOc065876 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t2I7mfOc065876; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [192.168.100.2] claimed to be seedling.local Message-ID: <55092DC9.5030900@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:48:25 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fetching public key from update.freebsd.org... failed. References: <2113109231.280296.1426639945063.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <2113109231.280296.1426639945063.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OV0bdr3nKCRoHi2kCPcg1cp7R4krt2EuX" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:48:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --OV0bdr3nKCRoHi2kCPcg1cp7R4krt2EuX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/03/2015 00:52, Laszlo Danielisz via freebsd-questions wrote: > No matter which server I use it keeps giving me the public key error. > I can't understand what is happening, the network is fine.=20 > root@owncloud:/usr/home/beastie # uname -aFreeBSD owncloud > 10.1-STABLE FreeBSD 10.1-STABLE #0 r279796: Mon Mar 9 16:15:17 UTC > 2015 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 What am I missing?Thanks!Laszlo You can't use freebsd-update with 10-STABLE. It only works with *release* versions. If you want to switch to 10.1-RELEASE you should be able to d something like: # freebsd-update -r 10.1-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install (... and then follow the instructions freebsd-update gives you. You will end up running 'freebsd-update install' three times.) Otherwise, if you stick with 10-STABLE then you will need to compile your own world to update. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --OV0bdr3nKCRoHi2kCPcg1cp7R4krt2EuX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVCS3ZXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATYMkQAItYv0v+DUgwiomS9Fsbmibm M6+mRAvUH1SissXoNYmBjlnEEdsZsjMRdYSzqDcsAU6EvFSNU9nUCLLTb/1Zr9DJ skwKd3ViebDXNhS8UHiG1I3ew7fB3iLFP9mqscAsSELPsN3iurjKl9YhvqfSUDA4 0JA+yFxrf4IzOI7oONPV5FSEzfzSxv57YK1lyF4SNop3zmK/aw+xGFQ70XxC5Tga WiRRPmtrnuy/v5YMr8McVVzi0nCB9yhsni+I6NZ7Wlp4d6zibSFKxfL61oH2wv8z tiv+2HBoCNgPfmSJV3OVUKUr4jKifWSyfFA8LZM/UwV6pjg02AUZ+OAQapOfy50N pUooDqYAvNi4NeVVCbQ/LGqx2lvYMSCh93bSsUYKEcImiq0kuu41hDdpcQH2hsZR DXYjKgV9BZlGiHCcauLGvcxq2cueKX7ekRmWqiUHbQCZBURvaLxbQ0SrlGM+gx1F 6Fcut5r5ddCwsBzR1+ETMZwdjMyIpq8buxJFxNRHDWDB+I11iW9PrYeazpJUWqI8 9roJ+CFXtonkwdyBvVfiU+Yh8BU/btkmAWNHiFCF0Yy9juKdZ7qM+UV4rCugAX0n nL/TcQWx4Q5u7kh+/B/ZF8ml2yxq9BCYHRfUboFr8kl598mUdJ5upfRRWLH5U4Sf 3glxWus2K4JZwCwQr/Uj =V2+r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OV0bdr3nKCRoHi2kCPcg1cp7R4krt2EuX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 08:01:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9387DED9 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FB4AC6A for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.188]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LnOzQ-1ZBKOw2Bpe-00hcNg for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:56:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:56:25 -0800 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: thrashing + lost files Reply-To: "CK" X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 Message-ID: <0MegOs-1Ys1A80zUW-00OIFG@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:POCbI4tg6HmqHrr87UzkWPRZNyY64bJrnLI0496zjQ6KJVXjDfh 44c33yCOlyEw/WqMc6XNqs7XUESKaKyuBfpPcAFFayzIRnuOS0EoOZbdbOOZ0Pray/E2wCW bbWs3hxN/PMAKUq4y74bh/NPtTPGz0yKUA+7WR37ofgoNSQIabuYpbIf2qqy4+rZo5bsqyS c6z2q7si9p34bA5MqeI1g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:01:11 -0000 I would like any thoughts or ideas on how to prevent the following problem, because it is making my computer completely unusable, wasting many efforts. I am using this mail-list because freebsd.forums.org has become completely unusable to those with dial-up connections, requiring 10 seconds for each character typed ... no exaggeration. PROBLEM: ------- This is a very bad problem I have experienced several times of late, and come to think of it, has only happened since using GELI encruption (recently upgraded from 4.11 to 9.2). The easy answer may be "turn off encryption", but this is not an easy problem to test and verify: The result is the loss of many critical files from a hard drive, as if a "rm *" was done in the home directory. This occurs after the thrashing when Xwindow is accidently shutdown with Opera open with many javascript page tabs, eg, being a memory pig - consuming 1/2 of RAM (256M), which after dumping core, writes a large amount of data (crashlog) even after Xwindow is down: pid 1118 (opera), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) ASSOCIATED PROBLEM: ------------------ One bad problem under these conditions, where one has to umount a partition, is that umount-ing is not possible if the partition is in use, and it seems there is no easy way to find every process using a partition ... is there? I was forced to use "umount -f", which resulted in error messages filling the screen from complaining processes, making it difficult to kill them. FSCK RESULTS: ------------ Of interest, is that each time fsck was run, more files were lost! # fsck -t ufs -p /dev/ada0p6.eli /dev/ada0p6.eli: NO WRITE ACCESS /dev/ada0p6.eli: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. # fsck -t ufs /dev/ada0p6.eli ** /dev/ada0p6.eli (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /home ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=2327435 (8 should be 0) CORRECT? no ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts UNREF FILE I=2327428 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 SIZE=16847 MTIME=Mar 17 05:07 2015 CLEAR? no UNREF FILE I=2327439 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 SIZE=16944 MTIME=Mar 17 14:30 2015 CLEAR? no ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK SALVAGE? no SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD SALVAGE? no BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS SALVAGE? no 14850 files, 822188 used, 5777153 free (569 frags, 722073 blocks, 0.0% fragmenta tion) # fsck -t ufs /dev/ada0p6.eli ** /dev/ada0p6.eli (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /home ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=2327435 (8 should be 0) CORRECT? no ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts UNREF FILE I=2327428 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 SIZE=16847 MTIME=Mar 17 05:07 2015 CLEAR? no UNREF FILE I=2327439 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 SIZE=16944 MTIME=Mar 17 14:30 2015 CLEAR? no ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK SALVAGE? no SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD SALVAGE? no BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS SALVAGE? no 14854 files, 822239 used, 5777102 free (558 frags, 722068 blocks, 0.0% fragmenta tion) UMOUNT -F: --------- After running umount -f, the disk appears ok ... ? # fsck -t ufs /dev/ada0p6.eli ** /dev/ada0p6.eli (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /home ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 14843 files, 822175 used, 5777167 free (559 frags, 722076 blocks, 0.0% fragmenta tion) LOST FILES: ---------- A lost+found directory is never created, which ignorantly, I think should be created and filled with the "unreferenced inodes" (if that is the correct term). Regardless, I have lost weeks of work in the last few months from this problem, and I'm losing faith. HARDWARE: -------- Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE #3: Wed Mar 26 03:00:41 AKDT 2014 root@ai1.alaska.net:/usr/obj/umass/src/sys/MYKERN i386 gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] CPU: VIA Nehemiah (666.56-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Family = 0x6 Model = 0x9 Stepping = 8 Features=0x381b83f VIA Padlock Features=0xdd real memory = 536870912 (512 MB) avail memory = 482779136 (460 MB) cryptosoft0: on motherboard padlock0: on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 1def0000 (3) failed cpu0: on acpi0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on acpi0 Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: on hostb0 agp0: aperture size is 64M pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: mem 0xe4000000-0xe7ffffff,0xe8000000-0xe8ffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe0000000 64MB info: [drm] Initialized via 2.11.1 20070202 uhci0: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0 usbus0 on uhci0 uhci1: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 3 at device 16.1 on pci0 usbus1 on uhci1 uhci2: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 10 at device 16.2 on pci0 usbus2 on uhci2 ehci0: mem 0xea000000-0xea0000ff irq 5 at device 16.3 on pci0 usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 usbus3 on ehci0 isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xdc00-0xdc0f at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: at channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: at channel 1 on atapci0 pcm0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff irq 10 at device 17.5 on pci0 pcm0: pcm0: uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd7fff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-5 device ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 38166MB (78165360 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad0 ada1 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 1 lun 0 ada1: ATA-4 device ada1: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: 4112MB (8421840 512 byte sectors: 15H 63S/T 8912C) ada1: Previously was known as ad1 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 666563644 Hz quality 800 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ugen3.2: at usbus3 umass0: on usbus3 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 30436MB (62333952 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 3880C) da0: quirks=0x2 cd0 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) cd0: cd present [297324 x 2048 byte records] Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 [rw]... GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p3.eli created. GEOM_ELI: Encryption: 3DES-CBC 192 GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p6.eli created. GEOM_ELI: Encryption: AES-XTS 128 GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 09:22:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21E4114B for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB5738B2 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 717E127847; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:22:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t2I9MEeK002029; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:22:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:22:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: CK Subject: Re: thrashing + lost files Message-Id: <20150318102214.7d8ae471.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <0MegOs-1Ys1A80zUW-00OIFG@mail.gmx.com> References: <0MegOs-1Ys1A80zUW-00OIFG@mail.gmx.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:22:20 -0000 On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:56:25 -0800, CK wrote: > I would like any thoughts or ideas on how to prevent the following problem, > because it is making my computer completely unusable, wasting many efforts. > I am using this mail-list because freebsd.forums.org has become completely > unusable to those with dial-up connections, requiring 10 seconds for each > character typed ... no exaggeration. A common reply would be: "Who still uses dial-up anyway?" ;-) > The result is the loss of many critical files from a hard drive, as if a "rm > *" was done in the home directory. This occurs after the thrashing when > Xwindow is accidently shutdown with Opera open with many javascript page tabs, > eg, being a memory pig - consuming 1/2 of RAM (256M), which after dumping > core, writes a large amount of data (crashlog) even after Xwindow is down: > > pid 1118 (opera), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) I thought Opera would simply write a core dump, well, still several 100s of MB though... > FSCK RESULTS: > ------------ > Of interest, is that each time fsck was run, more files were lost! > > # fsck -t ufs -p /dev/ada0p6.eli > /dev/ada0p6.eli: NO WRITE ACCESS > /dev/ada0p6.eli: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. This message should alert you. Don't just preen the disk. In this mode, only a subset of errors will be detected, and not all of them can be corrected. You should actually perform # fsck -t ufs -f /dev/ada0p6.eli with the disk (here: the "decrypted device") unmounted. Performing checks on live file system usually is something that's not encouraged. There are several errors shown: > INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=2327435 (8 should be 0) > [...] > UNREF FILE I=2327428 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > [...] > UNREF FILE I=2327439 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > [...] > FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK > [...] > SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD > [...] > BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS Unmount the partition, let fsck do its job. :-) Keep in mind: You _can_ use -y as an additional parameter, but you should know what you're doing. Sometimes, -y does not result in what you think it does... > A lost+found directory is never created, which ignorantly, I think should be > created and filled with the "unreferenced inodes" (if that is the correct > term). This directory is created only in case it is needed, by fsck. It won't be there by default. > Regardless, I have lost weeks of work in the last few months from this > problem, and I'm losing faith. Copy files to a different disk (or maybe even external storage, such as USB sticks) temporarily, just to be sure. By the way, I actually _know_ how this feels. Due to a faulty GPU, I lost data from time to time, and sometimes, fsck makes it worse (files disappearing, or zero'd out). A defective file system can be the cause of data loss. I had to learn this, and a major accident (on my old system) has brought me to this list, so there was "something good" in it. ;-) > HARDWARE: > -------- > [...] > ada0: ATA-5 device > ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: 38166MB (78165360 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada0: Previously was known as ad0 > ada1 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 1 lun 0 > ada1: ATA-4 device > ada1: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: 4112MB (8421840 512 byte sectors: 15H 63S/T 8912C) > ada1: Previously was known as ad1 > [...] > GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p3.eli created. > GEOM_ELI: Encryption: 3DES-CBC 192 > GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software > GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p6.eli created. > GEOM_ELI: Encryption: AES-XTS 128 > GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software Make sure the file systems are clean. No, really: Test it as recommended (from unmounted devices, with -f). If you got _that_ possible cause off the table, take the next steps, but check this "obvious" cause first. Sometimes, it is that easy. File systems with defects can lead to the "funniest" observations... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 11:05:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1803FAF5 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E84D46A0 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.231]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Maquy-1Yo3fd0mMs-00KPA8 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:05:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:05:28 -0800 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: Re: thrashing + lost files Reply-To: "CK" X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 Message-ID: <0M8Nme-1ZTz3v3hkQ-00vvpg@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2sgKWV7YedcqH5vzcW/sqoFP0ob9Os1nUvY/+/r6RFQEDLKrsvq o14m4SULQGoI2deMSuz+1HU5Pji8w1qbtd7kK2dSFFsgmoar7WK8HglxEP3chnO68TAyuBE LeT/xwJ6LGDglu4MPgHzc6bnWAUvtY+9MCMiJGjsX9VkBGLE2GYAe7Lo0r5knb7k74yH3f5 pKDEAndeUnoMJpvLQ/0WQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:05:04 -0000 > On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:56:25 -0800, CK wrote: > > I would like any thoughts or ideas on how to prevent the following problem, > > because it is making my computer completely unusable, wasting many efforts. > > I am using this mail-list because freebsd.forums.org has become completely > > unusable to those with dial-up connections, requiring 10 seconds for each > > character typed ... no exaggeration. > > A common reply would be: "Who still uses dial-up anyway?" ;-) 10s of millions in the USA. High-speed internet is way too expensive, over $100/mo where I live. Over $1200/yr. Easily 5-10% of take-home salary for many minimal wage workers. > > The result is the loss of many critical files from a hard drive, as if a "rm > > *" was done in the home directory. This occurs after the thrashing when > > Xwindow is accidently shutdown with Opera open with many javascript page tabs, > > eg, being a memory pig - consuming 1/2 of RAM (256M), which after dumping > > core, writes a large amount of data (crashlog) even after Xwindow is down: > > > > pid 1118 (opera), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > I thought Opera would simply write a core dump, well, still > several 100s of MB though... Interestingly, the core dump was deleted out of the home directory. I caught a quick glimpse of it doing "ls" before it was deleted. As I said, it was exactly like "rm *". Dot files were left intact. At first, I thought it was a bug with journaling/soft-updates, so I disabled those things with tunefs (to the best of my memory). But now it has happened again. The drive was being written to for about 1 minute by the Opera crashlog/coredump. About 45 seconds after Xwindow was already down. > > FSCK RESULTS: > > ------------ > > Of interest, is that each time fsck was run, more files were lost! > > > > # fsck -t ufs -p /dev/ada0p6.eli > > /dev/ada0p6.eli: NO WRITE ACCESS > > /dev/ada0p6.eli: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > > This message should alert you. Don't just preen the disk. > In this mode, only a subset of errors will be detected, > and not all of them can be corrected. You should actually > perform > > # fsck -t ufs -f /dev/ada0p6.eli Thanks, I didn't think of using the -f option. After reading a paper by Marshall McKusick on fsck, it was my understanding that "preen mode" only fixed errors that could be fixed with 100% accuracy. > There are several errors shown: > > > INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=2327435 (8 should be 0) > > [...] > > UNREF FILE I=2327428 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > > [...] > > UNREF FILE I=2327439 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > > [...] > > FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK > > [...] > > SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD > > [...] > > BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS I lost about 8 files, a lot of legal research/work, in case that is what the (8 should be 0) is citing. > Unmount the partition, let fsck do its job. :-) fsck -t ufs -f /dev/ada0p6.eli only reported that everything was clean. > Copy files to a different disk (or maybe even external storage, > such as USB sticks) temporarily, just to be sure. Yes, I do this of course, with a USB SDRAM device. But I still lose days of work, because I can't back up every minute. This should not happen at all. I have used FreeBSD for 20 years, since 1995, and I never had problems like this before - and I have the same hardware since 2003, which I ran FreeBSD 4.11 on until recently. But only now does this problem occur. Certainly, there is a bug somewhere. My gut feeling is that something is allowing Opera to do things it should not do, or something in the filesystem layers is breaking under the stress of Opera's crash dumps. > > HARDWARE: > > -------- > > [...] > > ada0: ATA-5 device > > ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > > ada0: 38166MB (78165360 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > > ada0: Previously was known as ad0 > > ada1 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 1 lun 0 > > ada1: ATA-4 device > > ada1: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 8192bytes) > > ada1: 4112MB (8421840 512 byte sectors: 15H 63S/T 8912C) > > ada1: Previously was known as ad1 > > [...] > > GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p3.eli created. > > GEOM_ELI: Encryption: 3DES-CBC 192 > > GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software > > GEOM_ELI: Device ada0p6.eli created. > > GEOM_ELI: Encryption: AES-XTS 128 > > GEOM_ELI: Crypto: software From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 11:26:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 701CB2DB for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C47F926 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [78.35.132.116] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YYBxD-00073o-68 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:16:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:16:03 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dumping on GELI consumers (was: FreeBSD 10.1 crashing under load) Message-ID: <15982c3e.3980e72b@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <4e9beab4.5e4e3963@fabiankeil.de> References: <4e9beab4.5e4e3963@fabiankeil.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/85_36R+cZ719Jfm_pxqloI8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:26:28 -0000 --Sig_/85_36R+cZ719Jfm_pxqloI8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fabian Keil wrote: > Christian Kujau wrote: > > Right now the system just reboots but leaves nothing in the system log = as=20 > > to _why_ it crashed. I've configured a crash dump device as per [0] but= no=20 > > crash dump is ever taken. I'm running with encrypted swap (via GELI),=20 > > maybe crashdumping doesn't work with encrypted swap? >=20 > IIRC it's not officially supported but you can dump on the device > below the geli layer: >=20 > fk@r500 ~ $swapinfo=20 > Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity > /dev/ada0s1b.eli 2097152 0 2097152 0% > fk@r500 ~ $dumpon -l > ada0s1b >=20 > Saving the dump automatically after boot doesn't work (for me), > but "service savecore start" works after "swapoff -a". For the archives: It works as expected when enabling the swap device with rc.d/swaplate. Currently this requires a small swapon patch: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D198598 Fabian --Sig_/85_36R+cZ719Jfm_pxqloI8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEUEARECAAYFAlUJXnMACgkQBYqIVf93VJ0wqACVFcdbe51AQug0HEf+tcxEu9tY igCgvC3qawuqr1AHmQ3zjU/pp4YdvAI= =9qey -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/85_36R+cZ719Jfm_pxqloI8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 11:29:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC2A14AB for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B993958 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF76024BD5; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:29:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t2IBT3iF002868; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:29:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:29:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: CK Subject: Re: thrashing + lost files Message-Id: <20150318122903.05e189f8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <0M8Nme-1ZTz3v3hkQ-00vvpg@mail.gmx.com> References: <0M8Nme-1ZTz3v3hkQ-00vvpg@mail.gmx.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:29:06 -0000 On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:05:28 -0800, CK wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:56:25 -0800, CK wrote: > > > I would like any thoughts or ideas on how to prevent the following problem, > > > because it is making my computer completely unusable, wasting many efforts. > > > I am using this mail-list because freebsd.forums.org has become completely > > > unusable to those with dial-up connections, requiring 10 seconds for each > > > character typed ... no exaggeration. > > > > A common reply would be: "Who still uses dial-up anyway?" ;-) > > 10s of millions in the USA. High-speed internet is way too expensive, > over $100/mo where I live. Over $1200/yr. Easily 5-10% of take-home > salary for many minimal wage workers. Here in Germany, many people believe that the USA is a "technology utopia", a "magical wonderland" where people earn high wages and have the fastest Internet of the world... :-) > > > The result is the loss of many critical files from a hard drive, as if a "rm > > > *" was done in the home directory. This occurs after the thrashing when > > > Xwindow is accidently shutdown with Opera open with many javascript page tabs, > > > eg, being a memory pig - consuming 1/2 of RAM (256M), which after dumping > > > core, writes a large amount of data (crashlog) even after Xwindow is down: > > > > > > pid 1118 (opera), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > > > I thought Opera would simply write a core dump, well, still > > several 100s of MB though... > > Interestingly, the core dump was deleted out of the home directory. I caught a > quick glimpse of it doing "ls" before it was deleted. As I said, it was > exactly like "rm *". Dot files were left intact. Oh, that's surprising! I also had that experience once - home directory empty (!) _except_ dot files (and other directories), just like "rm *" had been issued... very strange... > At first, I thought it was a bug with journaling/soft-updates, so I disabled > those things with tunefs (to the best of my memory). But now it has happened > again. I can't imagine it has to do with that. Massive file loss can appear when a directory inode has been damaged. Then fsck will remove the directory altogether. But it's possible to rescue the files _content_, as those are written with their (orphan) inode number to lost+found/. So their names are lost, but their content will be kept. > The drive was being written to for about 1 minute by the Opera > crashlog/coredump. About 45 seconds after Xwindow was already down. Such kind of crash indicates a significant problem. Are you sure the drives are fully intact? Check with "smartctl -a" just to be sure. And even if it sounds stupid: check the cables. > > > FSCK RESULTS: > > > ------------ > > > Of interest, is that each time fsck was run, more files were lost! > > > > > > # fsck -t ufs -p /dev/ada0p6.eli > > > /dev/ada0p6.eli: NO WRITE ACCESS > > > /dev/ada0p6.eli: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > > > > This message should alert you. Don't just preen the disk. > > In this mode, only a subset of errors will be detected, > > and not all of them can be corrected. You should actually > > perform > > > > # fsck -t ufs -f /dev/ada0p6.eli > > Thanks, I didn't think of using the -f option. The -f options *f*orces a *f*ull check. You can even run the command two times. The 2nd run should then reveal "no errors", the file system is kept marked clean. > After reading a paper by > Marshall McKusick on fsck, it was my understanding that "preen mode" only > fixed errors that could be fixed with 100% accuracy. I also read that famous paper to gain a better understanding of how UFS works and what fsck does. Data loss teaches you a lot of fundamental knowledge. :-) > > There are several errors shown: > > > > > INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=2327435 (8 should be 0) > > > [...] > > > UNREF FILE I=2327428 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > > > [...] > > > UNREF FILE I=2327439 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > > > [...] > > > FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK > > > [...] > > > SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD > > > [...] > > > BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS > > I lost about 8 files, a lot of legal research/work, in case that is what the > (8 should be 0) is citing. The question is: Is the data still there? Just because the file is gone - the inode entry -, this does not have to imply that the data isn't still on the disk. Everything is on the disk as long as it hasn't been overwritten. When I found out that one of my files (which I worked a whole day on) was gone (0 bytes) after a freeze + reboot + fsck, I immediately forced a r/o mount on the /home partition and grepped for some text fragment I could remember. I found the block where it was in, dumped that block, and trimmed it to become the original file again. The data wasn't lost, it was fully intact. But not referenced (!) anymore. > > Unmount the partition, let fsck do its job. :-) > > fsck -t ufs -f /dev/ada0p6.eli only reported that > everything was clean. So at _this_ point in time the file system was consistent. Do you maybe have background_fsck="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Set it to ="NO". Always perform file system checks _prior_ to accessing a file system r/o or even r/w. This may take some time, but you have to find a relation of time vs. data that reflects your priorities. :-) > > Copy files to a different disk (or maybe even external storage, > > such as USB sticks) temporarily, just to be sure. > > Yes, I do this of course, with a USB SDRAM device. But I still lose days of > work, because I can't back up every minute. You could automate this - but on the other hand, when a crash appears, this might also affect the backup process and its results. > This should not happen at all. Yes, it sounds too unusual. > I > have used FreeBSD for 20 years, since 1995, and I never had problems like this > before - and I have the same hardware since 2003, which I ran FreeBSD 4.11 on > until recently. But only now does this problem occur. Certainly, there is a > bug somewhere. My gut feeling is that something is allowing Opera to do > things it should not do, or something in the filesystem layers is breaking > under the stress of Opera's crash dumps. I'd think it's somewhere filesystem-related. I have tortured Opera with approx. 100 tabs open with "Flash" content and JS stuff in it. No crash, it just started swapping heavily. Sometimes I can get Opera to crash, but it successfully "resumes". However, when my system freezes (due to a faulty GPU) and Opera has been running. sometimes the bookmarks are lost. That's why I tend to copy them to ~/ from time to time, just to be sure. In few cases, the Opera settings also are reset. A copy of ~/.opera is helpful. Maybe it's just program design that got worse, like first reading a file into memory, then keeping that file open, maybe modify it, or not, and upon program exit, write memory content back to the file. When the normal program termination is not reached, a damaged or empty file is left behind. I have no idea what makes people write software that way, but it seems to be "modern" now... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 11:51:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDA9CB30 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99D2BC9A for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from puffyzz.attlocal.net ([172.15.184.248]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6RVl-1ZRZ5R3v8V-00yNqC for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:51:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 07:51:32 -0400 From: Dutch Ingraham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: thrashing + lost files Message-ID: <20150318115132.GA22966@puffyzz.attlocal.net> References: <0M8Nme-1ZTz3v3hkQ-00vvpg@mail.gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0M8Nme-1ZTz3v3hkQ-00vvpg@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:tiaPU45JKPuaUnT51rjl6vYHkxT9OdZsllli2/AWiMQdpJ9kPcd +CoWJgyclC5dMBl0OVRnII/eZRKpqrwRiAr4BFja8GP0uSOsvTea50xRQtMW/MYXMTp2H+e YC3YtgiW2CFgIQsc0a2nSmsYwjxOLAiH2Cw8z/5LoNNvLzOjMmmWVtLGojteyc0p+A6L4Dq OnkUgf67IBuC5MpJUoLpw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:51:44 -0000 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 03:05:28AM -0800, CK wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:56:25 -0800, CK wrote: > > > unusable to those with dial-up connections, requiring 10 seconds for each > > > character typed ... no exaggeration. > > > > A common reply would be: "Who still uses dial-up anyway?" ;-) > > 10s of millions in the USA. High-speed internet is way too expensive, > over $100/mo where I live. Over $1200/yr. Easily 5-10% of take-home > salary for many minimal wage workers. Not only that, but many rural areas simply have not been wired. In those cases, the only options are dial-up or satellite. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 15:32:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 753B479B for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22b.google.com (mail-lb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB95BC41 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbblx11 with SMTP id lx11so10267159lbb.3 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:32:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=K3iQKOABtUuj6k4sF2w1l3mr+h5vihIQTqkcBQVslXE=; b=oNY+UBiIjuQOABem9eUDPJ/gCbph4kK3BJ3MbmZwBUtn/5s2eE5PRZJBUuJrYTAYpt 6czrubIdXINyVKdVi4ZZikbjIHXb50l+TBGKakkrqD/iRuz4x4TMHU3z/g8EchzVAUw7 oHgxge0+MTTncXMr/XiFupRJ0QyPctOVCJ7wMYmEgFEu362QtPyg7o0PLUmQO3jANA/M JMHNE/4hfag5T9JolcugNoHvjE9CMDQEeaEXm4kEGJKDybZXLGJKRgXN95Rghfy0XYRn NX/ShzZKoTuodRe7zT9BWUSNllXli4SHxIePp/Hk6RZfEjuN2dyM21LctVH8qcwDGmjf 3ZyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.23.3 with SMTP id i3mr63243880laf.97.1426692738046; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.212.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:32:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 08:32:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: Chris Stankevitz To: Jungle Boogie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:32:20 -0000 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jungle Boogie wrote: > I use unbound from base _only_ at home for recursive DNS stuff. If I were to > make it authoritative for a domain, I'd use ports or packages because they > are updated more frequently over what's it base. Mr. Boogie, Thank you for your reply. Are you referring to security? Is this the is a correct interpretation of what you are saying: "In general, the FreeBSD base software is untrustworthy because it is infrequently updated. Someone who is interested in security should avoid the FreeBSD base packages and use ports wherever possible." Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 15:44:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB5FDAEE for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76CFDD84 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-63.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t2IFijAC027885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:44:45 -0500 Message-ID: <55099EE3.9030308@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:50:59 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:44:53 -0000 On 03/18/15 10:32, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jungle Boogie wrote: >> I use unbound from base _only_ at home for recursive DNS stuff. If I were to >> make it authoritative for a domain, I'd use ports or packages because they >> are updated more frequently over what's it base. > Mr. Boogie, > > Thank you for your reply. Are you referring to security? Is this the > is a correct interpretation of what you are saying: > > "In general, the FreeBSD base software is untrustworthy because it is > infrequently updated. Someone who is interested in security should > avoid the FreeBSD base packages and use ports wherever possible." > > Thank you, > > Chris Is that a quote from some (online ?) source ? If so, where ? If not, have a nice day :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 16:11:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1424B3BB for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0146.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6F2BE4 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.21] (73.5.142.244) by CY1PR03MB1504.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.163.17.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.112.19; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:57:13 +0000 Message-ID: <5509A055.6010701@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:57:09 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [73.5.142.244] X-ClientProxiedBy: CY1PR0601CA0023.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (25.160.162.33) To CY1PR03MB1504.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.163.17.22) Authentication-Results: freebsd.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR03MB1504; X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: BMV:1; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(6049001)(377454003)(51704005)(24454002)(122386002)(19580395003)(42186005)(92566002)(75432002)(2950100001)(19580405001)(77156002)(62966003)(23676002)(110136001)(80316001)(83506001)(89122001)(87976001)(65806001)(50466002)(50986999)(88552001)(33656002)(64126003)(65816999)(2351001)(107886001)(46102003)(40100003)(86362001)(76176999)(54356999)(47776003)(450100001)(66066001)(59896002)(65956001)(77096005); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR03MB1504; H:[10.0.0.21]; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5002010)(5005006); SRVR:CY1PR03MB1504; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1PR03MB1504; X-Forefront-PRVS: 051900244E X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2015 15:57:13.7673 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR03MB1504 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:11:49 -0000 On 2015.03.18 10:32, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jungle Boogie wrote: >> I use unbound from base _only_ at home for recursive DNS stuff. If I were to >> make it authoritative for a domain, I'd use ports or packages because they >> are updated more frequently over what's it base. > > Mr. Boogie, > > Thank you for your reply. Are you referring to security? Is this the > is a correct interpretation of what you are saying: > > "In general, the FreeBSD base software is untrustworthy because it is > infrequently updated. Someone who is interested in security should > avoid the FreeBSD base packages and use ports wherever possible." FreeBSD base gets security fixes. Using something from ports will get you a different version that is updated on a different schedule. That quote sounds like it came from a certain well-known troll blog. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 16:59:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 863E3C2 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09D578AF for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wixw10 with SMTP id w10so67165045wix.0 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=F38w+Wqs/I7V1IyYgKwhDJuUUGxWD6/dFDjToAOuL8c=; b=LhANttDnI7ZyAXys8bKJH+MhKf6LlmzBiWYjpc+Hto9q+T1vQHViu+uS48cm91g2dx Dt5uPx3jgq96IPuW4cvCr8pdaqu+m+ZuLyGHiCOyrO0l5kb1CU9l+BOtXPdUTlVlTRE9 cUyZuDk5/LFqbBAP0p49a1hNdCFxv7iFytDVByfhgWNtcl7I8pCYLpbrrQ9QQMrwuxod 6zFb0rcbsE0QpuQ6mLmnmK7c3YAomK/0H3XjxTWPdkq/ZcUawYZeNwW3l9VPR+vmVVpP Nn4u/umaKIVWsnwNUadX1LHFjXPcOmcdDSfO66485ifxHa1m6RTc/F7mRhmWCQc8DdN2 +C+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.198.162 with SMTP id jd2mr8337842wic.21.1426697987494; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.65.100 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> References: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:59:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What does this error mean. Python and GCC From: bob carr To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:59:49 -0000 Are you building math/py-numpy from Ports? If so, you might resolve the error by modifying the Makefile - adding to the LDFLAGS+=3D entry the string '-Wl,-rpath=3D/usr/local/lib/gcc48'. *Before edit:* LDFLAGS+=3D -shared =E2=80=8B*After edit:* =E2=80=8BLDFLAGS+=3D -shared -Wl,-rpath=3D/usr= /local/lib/gcc48 --- Bob Carr Houghton, Michigan carr.bob@gmail.com On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > Trying to get flatcam to run on > FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 > > Python-2.7 > > When running; python FlatCAM.py it errors out with this. > > python FlatCAM.py > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "FlatCAM.py", line 3, in > from FlatCAMApp import App > File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM= App.py", > line 18, in > from ObjectCollection import * > File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/ > FlatCAM-8.3/ObjectCollection.py", line 2, in > from FlatCAMObj import * > File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM= Obj.py", > line 5, in > from camlib import * > File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/camlib.= py", > line 12, in > from numpy import arctan2, Inf, array, sqrt, pi, ceil, sin, cos, dot, > float32, \ > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line > 170, in > from . import add_newdocs > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/add_newdocs.py", > line 13, in > from numpy.lib import add_newdoc > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/__init__.py", > line 18, in > from .polynomial import * > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/polynomial.py", > line 19, in > from numpy.linalg import eigvals, lstsq, inv > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/__init__.py", > line 51, in > from .linalg import * > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/linalg.py", > line 29, in > from numpy.linalg import lapack_lite, _umath_linalg > ImportError: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by > /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found > > What does it mean, is it meaningful for any of you? > > Flatcam is here http://www.flatcam.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 17:14:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23588469 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x229.google.com (mail-lb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97039AEB for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbblx11 with SMTP id lx11so12535566lbb.3 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:14:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wBh7Q9TqpAaM3Aa2AaRUqyo5/MtBHcuKXBN4QKj54Hw=; b=IxRIQ5fZg34mHm28gptttNnKG6MJYcJOdnIP7PSPpH00qyb1jcbYgJwOIjY8jkKAYm BdKXW1h6eVZFrjWEf3rkFBg5ZuB/z7045s6IFE3GX4imZeUh/rquHNwIr8lsTQdH4wJi s6QTkwGicCigmiLdsZ5mNqC2j+BQ33kckmhEMJlRQfHsKYSD0sNapEaHbpED7wMDWPIh epFEyZ2F83ZeT622xV5xwgebyMBAK+LHk0bfyDV35hwzhcNwc4qsXfhYKvimdtRFXI5Z g9p12Mk4HXL4zQxVfgxCzls+MvHdNrxmQ9t0aW6DkfNXQfEqpApwKz5xzhfnK4qZNgGl gR9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.5.6 with SMTP id o6mr66335069lao.59.1426698881409; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.212.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:14:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55099EE3.9030308@hiwaay.net> References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> <55099EE3.9030308@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:14:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: Chris Stankevitz To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:14:44 -0000 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:50 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Thank you for your reply. Are you referring to security? Is this the >> is a correct interpretation of what you are saying: >> >> "In general, the FreeBSD base software is untrustworthy because it is >> infrequently updated. Someone who is interested in security should >> avoid the FreeBSD base packages and use ports wherever possible." >> >> Thank you, >> >> Chris > > > > Is that a quote from some (online ?) source ? If so, where ? If not, have a > nice day :-) .... William I made up the quote in an attempt to figure out what "Jungle Boogie" was trying to say. I am not a troll or blogger. I assure you my only goal is to understand why the FreeBSD manual is telling me not to run the base-provided unbound daemon for outside users. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 17:16:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59CF6535 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22e.google.com (mail-lb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC25AB64 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbsy1 with SMTP id sy1so34769352lbb.1 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hBEdgsaxHC+Czbb7oCTswaId+Aiv6vkQFth+ZC2vpFQ=; b=MA/Vfiai+FJF9CNKOLi+OhU0fVfdbJaH5cYngpSNhW7lFHJlvsIFVy2sTH9/y4dYkb Lw5lswUobiMa+77hZTBjOtNmERcXLIpg2DlLeqSgV3aR5ZH6wiZS3YjWiOx8Hi8Kic5i U+W5Hg3JyWJpi3TENbFlDy+gH1Y9gEofRlSWHuAorRtuj8ZRVGGYdHn2MfbBwVXRZBh2 v0PNUAQVScbaXuk4TcK6g4FZ/SronWVuGLXH5RI/y63qLvPmz46aM7km4dGKQsDGiyCo WtUbBQLo+xiVtSPq7eA0m2p3Ax7Va6nC+SvF5l24dw1cJ9yXQDZWhQhzWZTWRwKk49uS npZg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.1.194 with SMTP id 2mr41121178lao.38.1426698980801; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.212.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5509A055.6010701@my.hennepintech.edu> References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> <5509A055.6010701@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:16:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: Chris Stankevitz To: Andrew Berg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:16:23 -0000 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: > That quote sounds like it came from a certain well-known troll blog. Andrew, I apologize for the confusion. The quote was my attempt at translating what "Jungle Boogie" was trying to explain in this thread. I created this entire thread in an attempt understand why the FreeBSD manual is telling me not to run the base-provided unbound daemon for outside users. I don't know if it is a security concern or other concern. Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 19:00:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51A70B87 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F8BD93F for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbgg8 with SMTP id gg8so39250235obb.1 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IyTS7+0bssn68i6S+tCLXS4aeNmX6qNqyr7udlPh2yc=; b=voJuUb3AR9ob0kjl9lzspxh8buMe5vznzEBBjz1ejJkGzLaSjdCHAIbSp8B9jcysK6 3zD+NJAZbM3vfGNWtRhuhSb3k5oWHRCwtsNHLzFFYNs1Yd16VR0gRVdvwJ1W+x9qnMO6 gXXkjRu8p4A0FepIsmfTaLFcMTFGUOWTA9nLcuxR2cGW3ENS38V6gW2LQIRFKQbiJsUy 7UMpij8fz4FUg04kjuavELTk4gwASNHdgH3ZC66dYuo4t5t8Og8DhTubE2C+4cDW3W4R cN4w3ARw0weLro+3i4Od9LshjvM55rELhaSxwslmRnIUYopnl5gmTr1vd7WvO/IERchm 4GIA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.181.72 with SMTP id du8mr22091627obc.71.1426705203326; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:00:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: jungle Boogie To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:00:04 -0000 Hi Chris, On 18 March 2015 at 08:32, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jungle Boogie wrote: >> I use unbound from base _only_ at home for recursive DNS stuff. If I were to >> make it authoritative for a domain, I'd use ports or packages because they >> are updated more frequently over what's it base. > > Mr. Boogie, > > Thank you for your reply. Are you referring to security? Is this the > is a correct interpretation of what you are saying: > > "In general, the FreeBSD base software is untrustworthy because it is > infrequently updated. Someone who is interested in security should > avoid the FreeBSD base packages and use ports wherever possible." > No, I wouldn't say untrustworthy nor am I referring to trust at all. If you install unbound from ports/pkg, you'll have unbound (or anything else) updated more frequently over what's in freeBSD base. >From here, we can see how frequently is updated: https://www.freshports.org/dns/unbound/ You may not care about frequent updates, so that's something you'll need to consider. > Thank you, > > Chris -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 19:05:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDD30E22 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x231.google.com (mail-oi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CEBCA3D for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oigv203 with SMTP id v203so44783423oig.3 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZJxp3+Ddtu5WD8xwcwYPjnYbwY47hMEc93ngMUUYCCQ=; b=MS+UXb/P93PFbngqh3gU93XvNXaIMbY4Wfk6gimqTBCT6mxSRjzmnbzSA2KDAT3GFh OFULoIB8kMe7mwmarTLtg6xw7RegbvS7TDBQknLJeMqdR3WXAn1lyfN8CNVNZGcGWJiy +YPsuf73g5/CjzF2XLRvjRZp+5BFtDSDl0kQhj9KvmsZPStkUO1tfh6/bnQMudFIQuTO Jmyyr7rTXQevBxk416jVMisfiQdy8UBphPXJsZyLb3zRAkKMpCSzx5EzT7PI1XW1f0f/ rYMgfXj7+iAGCf/hI+nHa1nldxYefDcdSmjkZQkKCFsvxhteVLmXdUxNa2TBdTIoZQ4P tmzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.60.197 with SMTP id j5mr58542538obr.85.1426705522758; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5508CAE2.4060300@columbus.rr.com> References: <20150317192847.5b39d1c8@lapsdeb> <5508CAE2.4060300@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:05:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: jungle Boogie To: Baho Utot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:05:23 -0000 Hi Bato, On 17 March 2015 at 17:46, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 03/17/15 19:28, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: >> >> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 >> Chris Stankevitz wrote: >>> >>> For the same reasons, I'd like to run the base system's unbound to >>> authoritatively host my DNS... but FreeBSD is discouraging me in >>> section 29.7.2 of the manual. Why the discouragement? >> >> Unbound is only a validating caching resolver. It *can't* be >> authoritative. > > > I am using unbound as an authoritative DNS resolver for my home network, it > also is the caching resolver. > It runs on a raspberry pi under FreeBSD 11. Does that mean you're using it to resolve hostnames on your local network, or is your raspberry pi actually resolving example.com for requests? If it's the former, that means you're adding A records in unbound.conf and then setting your clients to raspberry pi IP in /etc/resolv.conf If it's the latter, hopefully you have a backup NS and it's something a) outside of your home where the raspberry pi is and b) something more substantial than the raspberry pi. See: https://unbound.net/pipermail/unbound-users/2008-May/000063.html > > > > -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 19:49:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1529B29 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22d.google.com (mail-lb0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DDF5FA7 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbblx11 with SMTP id lx11so15582787lbb.3 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:49:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NfhltukSR8tXBvCbVfIy0E6eHlcIrq+bDv5oRw8nouc=; b=jySPYZ9zHGLQJGj+ETk0gFX0b+FtexxUFfQdTP5x1Dx3+9jcCPYp91B3HY/GhnU/1d k/GyOkO6IvKxw4aKPPiJdOhnAICd8Abd1xZrGpWnMOqRB/h2hw6kBMeRpuke7S09G9se x4SQOMQP0sS7Dk54XjGOW7roxTUywoUaYvnqOQARz7nz0Y3pYapsIlNMhWzR1HBHBhAl drWUN1B7KEAQfnDpH+zcRT2v54QtJ1fFgUtjoTYjwXWKK5HLAHFtaKzqmkCLR6SVkub8 hYyrl//2pbu19UU3I/A/Hh7QaHa5iWfBtiB5NF487G0luRPVXAS1gyd1hZW16LiMirpL olKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.162.232 with SMTP id yd8mr64797743lbb.41.1426708175016; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.212.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:49:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:49:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: Chris Stankevitz To: jungle Boogie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:49:37 -0000 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:00 PM, jungle Boogie wrote: > No, I wouldn't say untrustworthy nor am I referring to trust at all. Thank you for the clarification. > If you install unbound from ports/pkg, you'll have unbound (or > anything else) updated more frequently over what's in freeBSD base. > > From here, we can see how frequently is updated: > https://www.freshports.org/dns/unbound/ > > You may not care about frequent updates, so that's something you'll > need to consider. Got it, thank you. In my original post I described my excitement about using the FreeBSD base packages for a number of reasons: - documented in handbook - security problems are described in FreeBSD announcements - easy updates with freebsd-update - infrequent updates >From the responses here, it seems as if those are valid reasons to prefer using the FreeBSD base packages. I'm still left wondering why the FreeBSD handbook recommends favoring ports over base when running an externally visible unbound server. However, from the response I got here it seems clear that the reason is not "security" or "trust". It's just some other [yet unspecified] reason. Thank you again, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 19:58:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD562F35 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com (mail-lb0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A157125 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbnq5 with SMTP id q5so9775643lbn.0 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+p6BcDAulgJkikpdVZmp1EFW73Hz73vLaJtSRW3/hn0=; b=s/DQeGnwF7rvz3uXpUCRrDW0nyEl0maBxURolF0pwhqVRDj+GPwa78KTEfriixR9Lg nTd7BQODqVpThYxIEpcETZ8O/e1JZtzL7TVOfwtgz9chZj+Ut/cRHvAyf1kwnQ3ZxUlY c2DMpZWi6YU75B7f/yaxVmsLIK0ovOoDWs0O4oU7AdCQ9HYTwp4nMkgWBjzDvba1Q7Yw SeN2TzXsg1HBVRPLc5iAbaxBrUtNvmKX5ckdDsqMFSaQ+cXG1H5O+ae9T6vYuPASxiIs TPffErHkWRyAOstQ3VBO/CjVNelpjFo3tuJV90itxXgJknbXBdSkR2s2YICezaRK0CdA JxQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.93.167 with SMTP id cv7mr33966848lbb.77.1426708701486; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.212.1 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:58:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: Chris Stankevitz To: jungle Boogie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:58:24 -0000 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > I'm still left wondering why the FreeBSD handbook recommends favoring > ports over base when running an externally visible unbound server. Turns out, just as Stephen had explained, unbound claims it cannot be used as an authoritative server. So I will be using bind or nsd. The issue is moot and I no longer feel the need to have the question answered. Thank you all for your help, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 18 20:18:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9367589 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 20:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BED38A for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 20:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:60528] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id D0/69-23556-39DD9055; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 20:18:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=GangGreene.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YYKQ6-0003lf-Np for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:18:26 -0400 Message-ID: <5509DD95.2020604@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:18:29 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server References: <20150317192847.5b39d1c8@lapsdeb> <5508CAE2.4060300@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 20:18:28 -0000 On 03/18/15 15:05, jungle Boogie wrote: > Hi Bato, > On 17 March 2015 at 17:46, Baho Utot wrote: >> >> On 03/17/15 19:28, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote: >>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:25:09 -0700 >>> Chris Stankevitz wrote: >>>> For the same reasons, I'd like to run the base system's unbound to >>>> authoritatively host my DNS... but FreeBSD is discouraging me in >>>> section 29.7.2 of the manual. Why the discouragement? >>> Unbound is only a validating caching resolver. It *can't* be >>> authoritative. >> >> I am using unbound as an authoritative DNS resolver for my home network, it >> also is the caching resolver. >> It runs on a raspberry pi under FreeBSD 11. > Does that mean you're using it to resolve hostnames on your local > network, or is your raspberry pi actually resolving example.com for > requests? Yes it resolves hostnames within the network using an A record. > If it's the former, that means you're adding A records in unbound.conf > and then setting your clients to raspberry pi IP in /etc/resolv.conf Yes > If it's the latter, hopefully you have a backup NS and it's something > a) outside of your home where the raspberry pi is and b) something > more substantial than the raspberry pi. > > See: > https://unbound.net/pipermail/unbound-users/2008-May/000063.html No it is the only NS for the internal lan and it queries the root servers directly to resolve host names that don't have an A record. IE every day normal browsing and email. I also have A records pointing to localhost for all the ad servers so no one gets all the popup ads, no need for adblock. If you have news groups check the mailing lists there and you will see that it is running leafnode and does the nntp for the Lan as well, also it is the email server for the Lan. The raspberry pi is fine, it has been running 24x7 since the B+ model came out and hasn't missed failed ever. May upgrade it to the raspberry pi 2 when freebsd runs on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 00:02:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0D5FCEF for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 00:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 525F218A for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 00:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 626E82766E; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 01:02:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t2J02j6e002096; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 01:02:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 01:02:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chris Stankevitz Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server Message-Id: <20150319010245.17075fe5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: reebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 00:02:50 -0000 On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:49:34 -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Got it, thank you. In my original post I described my excitement > about using the FreeBSD base packages for a number of reasons: Intermission: Note that the base system does not exactly consist of individual packages, as it does in various Linux distributions (where there is no real "base system" at all, just an arbitrary combination of packages, and even the kernel can be considered a package). The OS is being distributed as a "whole unit", and special quality control is being applied before -RELEASE-pX patches are made available. Things are tested much more before you can run freebsd-update and get the update. There is a difference to -STABLE and -HEAD which might get security updates faster, but with the risk (especially on -HEAD, or -CURRENT) of not even working. You listed some advantages that apply to the OS more than to ports: > - documented in handbook Exactly. :-) > - security problems are described in FreeBSD announcements Also correct. But you can use auditing tools (and "pkg audit") to get informed quickly when an installed port has security issues. > - easy updates with freebsd-update Also correct. > - infrequent updates What does "infrequent" mean? There is no "5 year plan" which defines when and how updates are being performed. It's true that the FreeBSD OS may need one day or two to test and supply a security patch for software which also exists in ports or is being ported from another OS, and it might be that such an update is available more quickly through ports, but those who release the original (!) patch, maybe for a Linux program, do not test anything in relation to FreeBSD. However, when you're updating your ports collection with "portsnap" or "svn update", the update is usually faster than it would be for an OS-related software. That is the reason why ports are encouraged when you need to fix security issues quickly. > I'm still left wondering why the FreeBSD handbook recommends favoring > ports over base when running an externally visible unbound server. THe port maintainer is quicker than the OS team because he has to deal with less things. :-) > However, from the response I got here it seems clear that the reason > is not "security" or "trust". It's just some other [yet unspecified] > reason. It's probably not trust (no more or less than the OS), but it is security, under the name of speed. It's also the point _where_ you apply a change: at the OS level or in the "additionally installed software" (which is the ports collection). Updating the OS usually involves a reboot, but updating a port often does not. So that might also be a reason when downtime is a major concern. Summary: There is no "the one real way". It depends on your priorities and choices. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 01:37:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42DBF30F for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 01:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF682D3E for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 01:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3775620B2 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:29:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <550A2673.7070704@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:29:23 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Baikal caldav and documentroot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 01:37:18 -0000 Just a quick one: is anyone using Baikal for caldav? Is there a reason it _must_ be documentroot? I haven't been successful in finding out the why - no docs either. Bit of a pain in the butt with my current setup, but if I _must_ then I guess I'll have to figure out how to adjust. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 03:05:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DFAB25A for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 03:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AD5E92E for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 03:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gmx.com ([72.251.118.65]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MVMk4-1Z1aKv1SP8-00YmdX for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 04:05:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:05:38 -0800 From: "CK" To: Cc: Subject: Re: thrashing + lost files Reply-To: "CK" X-Mailer: UMail v1.0 Message-ID: <0MTkBS-1YyrZe40hM-00QVB7@mail.gmx.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:j56DeAI0Yhhfb5OHRRlmNM6niI+EWc7+2jbnq8WIyTXqcoNmuXu FbaRHZdaCvNvmCXeX7WWaa97T39FVOXU8q6XeGn3Gbjshd1mBQn/TgTIw/IhYuQQ9XEMYy1 NZWNTqXT0qZKq4S+kJNxqF5jl6p+Ks9FJtnmkYfwbhGOFlmiJ8/7HfxyJdnZrpIunw/gjXF cwPYixPSlbgsUl3Up0P6A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 03:05:28 -0000 > > > > The result is the loss of many critical files from a hard drive, as if > > > > a "rm *" was done in the home directory. This occurs after the > > > > thrashing when Xwindow is accidently shutdown with Opera open with > > > > many javascript page tabs, eg, being a memory pig - consuming 1/2 of > > > > RAM (256M), which after dumping core, writes a large amount of data > > > > (crashlog) even after Xwindow is down: > > > > > > > > pid 1118 (opera), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > > > > > I thought Opera would simply write a core dump, well, still several 100s > > > of MB though... > > > > Interestingly, the core dump was deleted out of the home directory. I > > caught a quick glimpse of it doing "ls" before it was deleted. As I said, > > it was exactly like "rm *". Dot files were left intact. > > Oh, that's surprising! I also had that experience once - home directory > empty (!) _except_ dot files (and other directories), just like "rm *" had > been issued... very strange... Yes, that is interesting. Does not see like "coincidence". > > At first, I thought it was a bug with journaling/soft-updates, so I > > disabled those things with tunefs (to the best of my memory). But now it > > has happened again. > > I can't imagine it has to do with that. Massive file loss can appear when a > directory inode has been damaged. Then fsck will remove the directory > altogether. But it's possible to rescue the files _content_, as those are > written with their (orphan) inode number to lost+found/. So their names are > lost, but their content will be kept. I turned off journaling and soft-updates because the first time this problem occurred, it deleted the files in my home directory, as well as user-owned files in /home/tmp and /home/user/subdir's that were recently created, so I thought maybe they weren't being flushed out to the disk; eg, getting stuck in some journaling/soft-updates buffer. > > The drive was being written to for about 1 minute by the Opera > > crashlog/coredump. About 45 seconds after Xwindow was already down. > > Such kind of crash indicates a significant problem. Are you > sure the drives are fully intact? Check with "smartctl -a" just > to be sure. And even if it sounds stupid: check the cables. smartctl 6.2 2014-02-18 r3874 [FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE i386] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Caviar WDxxxAB Device Model: WDC WD400AB-22CDB0 Serial Number: WD-WMA9T1222658 Firmware Version: 22.04A22 User Capacity: 40,020,664,320 bytes [40.0 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ATA/ATAPI-5 (minor revision not indicated) Local Time is: Wed Mar 18 17:40:59 2015 AKDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status:(0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (2376) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x3b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. No General Purpose Logging support. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 42) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALU WORSTHRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_ FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 102 099 021 Pre-fail Always - 3975 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 040 Old_age Always - 58 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 199 199 140 Pre-fail Always - 1 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 084 084 000 Old_age Always - 12324 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 57 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age Always - 1 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 200 200 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported smartctl 6.2 2014-02-18 r3874 [FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE i386] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Caviar AC Device Model: WDC AC24300L Serial Number: WD-WT4111658721 Firmware Version: 14.10R11 User Capacity: 4,311,982,080 bytes [4.31 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ATA/ATAPI-4 (minor revision not indicated) Local Time is: Wed Mar 18 17:41:00 2015 AKDT SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled. Checking to be sure by trying SMART RETURN STATUS command. SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status:(0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (1280) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x03) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. No Offline surface scan supported. No Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0002) Does not save SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x00) Error logging NOT supported. No General Purpose Logging support. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALU WORSTHRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_ FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 099 099 040 Old_age Always - 1545 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 200 200 001 Pre-fail Always - 0 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 51375 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0009 100 253 051 Pre-fail Offline - 0 SMART Error Log not supported SMART Self-test Log not supported Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported > > > > FSCK RESULTS: > > > > ------------ > > > > Of interest, is that each time fsck was run, more files were lost! > > > > > > > > # fsck -t ufs -p /dev/ada0p6.eli > > > > /dev/ada0p6.eli: NO WRITE ACCESS > > > > /dev/ada0p6.eli: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > > > > > > This message should alert you. Don't just preen the disk. > > > In this mode, only a subset of errors will be detected, > > > and not all of them can be corrected. You should actually > > > perform > > > > > > # fsck -t ufs -f /dev/ada0p6.eli > > > > Thanks, I didn't think of using the -f option. > > The -f options *f*orces a *f*ull check. You can even run the command two > times. The 2nd run should then reveal "no errors", the file system is kept > marked clean. > > > After reading a paper by Marshall McKusick on fsck, it was my > > understanding that "preen mode" only fixed errors that could be fixed with > > 100% accuracy. > > I also read that famous paper to gain a better understanding of how UFS > works and what fsck does. Data loss teaches you a lot of fundamental > knowledge. :-) > > > > There are several errors shown: > > > > > > > INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=2327435 (8 should be 0) > > > > [...] > > > > UNREF FILE I=2327428 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > > > > [...] > > > > UNREF FILE I=2327439 OWNER=abc MODE=100600 > > > > [...] > > > > FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK > > > > [...] > > > > SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD > > > > [...] > > > > BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS > > > > I lost about 8 files, a lot of legal research/work, in case that is what > > the (8 should be 0) is citing. > > The question is: Is the data still there? Just because the file is gone - > the inode entry -, this does not have to imply that the data isn't still on > the disk. Everything is on the disk as long as it hasn't been overwritten. > > When I found out that one of my files (which I worked a whole day on) was > gone (0 bytes) after a freeze + reboot + fsck, I immediately forced a r/o > mount on the /home partition and grepped for some text fragment I could > remember. I found the block where it was in, dumped that block, and trimmed > it to become the original file again. The data wasn't lost, it was fully > intact. But not referenced (!) anymore. > > > > Unmount the partition, let fsck do its job. :-) > > > > fsck -t ufs -f /dev/ada0p6.eli only reported that everything was clean. > > So at _this_ point in time the file system was consistent. Do you maybe have > background_fsck="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Set it to ="NO". Always perform file > system checks _prior_ to accessing a file system r/o or even r/w. This may > take some time, but you have to find a relation of time vs. data that > reflects your priorities. :-) No, I do not have background fsck's - and I never rebooted. I always run fsck before mounting a file-system. I have my own /etc/rc that is self-contained with a few lines to bring the system up, and nothing more, very much a minimialist, essentially: /sbin/geli onetime -d -e 3des -s 4096 /dev/ada0p3 /sbin/swapon /dev/ada0p3.eli /sbin/fsck -y /sbin/mount -a /bin/rm -rf /var/run/* /var/spool/lock/* umask 0077 # rw- --- --- /bin/hostname localhost... /sbin/ldconfig /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/X11/lib /sbin/ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 > > > Copy files to a different disk (or maybe even external storage, such as > > > USB sticks) temporarily, just to be sure. > > > > Yes, I do this of course, with a USB SDRAM device. But I still lose days > > of work, because I can't back up every minute. > > You could automate this - but on the other hand, when a crash appears, this > might also affect the backup process and its results. > > > This should not happen at all. > > Yes, it sounds too unusual. > > > I have used FreeBSD for 20 years, since 1995, and I never had problems > > like this before - and I have the same hardware since 2003, which I ran > > FreeBSD 4.11 on until recently. But only now does this problem occur. > > Certainly, there is a bug somewhere. My gut feeling is that something is > > allowing Opera to do things it should not do, or something in the > > filesystem layers is breaking under the stress of Opera's crash dumps. > > I'd think it's somewhere filesystem-related. I have tortured Opera with > approx. 100 tabs open with "Flash" content and JS stuff in it. No crash, it > just started swapping heavily. Sometimes I can get Opera to crash, but it > successfully "resumes". However, when my system freezes (due to a faulty > GPU) and Opera has been running. sometimes the bookmarks are lost. That's > why I tend to copy them to ~/ from time to time, just to be sure. In few > cases, the Opera settings also are reset. A copy of ~/.opera is helpful. > Maybe it's just program design that got worse, like first reading a file > into memory, then keeping that file open, maybe modify it, or not, and upon > program exit, write memory content back to the file. When the normal program > termination is not reached, a damaged or empty file is left behind. I have > no idea what makes people write software that way, but it seems to be > "modern" now... We're in the 2nd half of the "peak usury-based-civilization" bell curve :) I was 30 when I started using FreeBSD, now 50. Of all things in life, FreeBSD was likely the greatest pleasure and best experience. I could easily enjoy doing much more with it for 100s of years, and it's been one of the few social circles where I've met people that I admire and respect for the development of their faculties and all-around good+honest+intelligent nature. > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 05:32:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31295F0 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88697842 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t2J5W7jK074675; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:32:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <550A5F57.5010402@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:32:07 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bob carr Subject: Re: What does this error mean. Python and GCC References: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:32:20 -0000 On 2015-03-18 17:59, bob carr wrote: > Are you building math/py-numpy from Ports? If so, you might resolve the > error by modifying the Makefile - adding to the LDFLAGS+= entry the > string '-Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc48'. > > *Before edit:* LDFLAGS+= -shared > > ​*After edit:* ​LDFLAGS+= -shared -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc48 Thank you. I'll try that. Yes. Building from ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 05:56:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85BB231C for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC9189F6 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t2J5u3kp075030; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:56:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <550A64F3.7000300@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:56:03 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bob carr Subject: Re: What does this error mean. Python and GCC References: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:56:07 -0000 On 2015-03-18 17:59, bob carr wrote: > Are you building math/py-numpy from Ports? If so, you might resolve the > error by modifying the Makefile - adding to the LDFLAGS+= entry the > string '-Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc48'. > > *Before edit:* LDFLAGS+= -shared > > ​*After edit:* ​LDFLAGS+= -shared -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc48 Same error as before. ImportError: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 06:10:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27122454 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A556AD2 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t2J6AUJx075442; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:10:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <550A6856.5040500@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:10:30 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bob carr Subject: Re: What does this error mean. Python and GCC References: <55074389.8040300@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:10:34 -0000 There is a PR for this error http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2014-March/275149.html On 2015-03-18 17:59, bob carr wrote: > Are you building math/py-numpy from Ports? If so, you might resolve the > error by modifying the Makefile - adding to the LDFLAGS+= entry the > string '-Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc48'. > > *Before edit:* LDFLAGS+= -shared > > ​*After edit:* ​LDFLAGS+= -shared -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc48 > > > --- > Bob Carr > Houghton, Michigan > carr.bob@gmail.com > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Hello list! >> >> Trying to get flatcam to run on >> FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE #0 r278921 >> >> Python-2.7 >> >> When running; python FlatCAM.py it errors out with this. >> >> python FlatCAM.py >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "FlatCAM.py", line 3, in >> from FlatCAMApp import App >> File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAMApp.py", >> line 18, in >> from ObjectCollection import * >> File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/ >> FlatCAM-8.3/ObjectCollection.py", line 2, in >> from FlatCAMObj import * >> File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAMObj.py", >> line 5, in >> from camlib import * >> File "/usr/home/bernt/vebbnerladdningar/FlatCAM-8.3/FlatCAM-8.3/camlib.py", >> line 12, in >> from numpy import arctan2, Inf, array, sqrt, pi, ceil, sin, cos, dot, >> float32, \ >> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line >> 170, in >> from . import add_newdocs >> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/add_newdocs.py", >> line 13, in >> from numpy.lib import add_newdoc >> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/__init__.py", >> line 18, in >> from .polynomial import * >> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/lib/polynomial.py", >> line 19, in >> from numpy.linalg import eigvals, lstsq, inv >> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/__init__.py", >> line 51, in >> from .linalg import * >> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/linalg/linalg.py", >> line 29, in >> from numpy.linalg import lapack_lite, _umath_linalg >> ImportError: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version GCC_4.6.0 required by >> /usr/local/lib/gcc48/libgfortran.so.3 not found >> >> What does it mean, is it meaningful for any of you? >> >> Flatcam is here http://www.flatcam.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 11:01:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AF3AA08 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpauth.rollernet.us (smtpauth.rollernet.us [IPv6:2607:fe70:0:3::d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F5BAE64 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpauth.rollernet.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpauth.rollernet.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0875940A6 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 04:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w500-wifi.ramos.link (w500-wifi.ramos.link [IPv6:2a01:240:fe00:82e4:216:eaff:fec1:77da]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.rollernet.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 04:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1426762872.4641.29.camel@miguel.ramos.name> Subject: FreeBSD alternatives to Linux's switch_root and vm.block_dump From: Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:01:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rollernet-Abuse: Processed by Roller Network Mail Services. Contact abuse@rollernet.us to report violations. Abuse policy: http://www.rollernet.us/policy X-Rollernet-Submit: Submit ID 27c3.550aac80.804d0.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:01:29 -0000 Hi, My home server is FreeBSD since the 1990s. Motherboards change, processors, disks, something is always kept to maintain a thread of continuity. However, I've been running Linux on the laptop, so I have to make these two questions as an outsider. The context is this: up to now I survived with a part-time server, 8h/24h to save electricity, and now I want it up 24h/24h. Moved it to a low power Intel j1900 mb and now I need to keep the 4 disks from spinning. I have been trying several options: - All normal, except /var/{at,cache,log,run} and maybe spool all tmpfs. - /var is tmpfs, with separate UFS /var/{backups,db,heimdal}. - / is mdmfs with rootfs_name="image" in loader.conf, but this system is so slow reading the image file! - An init_script creates a tmpfs, dump|restore from the real root in an init_script and then init_chroot to the tmpfs. Very fast, but chroot isn't working. There is also the USB pen option, however, that is far from the reliability of running the system from RAM. Two resources have been most helpful: - http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/compiling-root-filesystem-into-kernel-preferably-tmpfs-root-filesystem-td4051224.html - https://wiki.freebsd.org/AvgLiveCD In this context, I have two questions: 1) In Linux, there is a sysctl vm.block_dump which allows us to see on dmesg what process caused disk activity. Is there a way to achieve the same on FreeBSD? 2) I don't get the effect I wanted setting the init_chroot variable to init. The init_script mounted tmpfs on /rootfs and setting init_chroot="/rootfs" does chroot, but when I run: # mount /dev/gpt/rootfs on / (ufs, local, read-only) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) tmpfs on /rootfs (tmpfs, local) devfs on /rootfs/dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/gpt/usr on /rootfs/usr (ufs, local, noatime, journaled soft-updates) ... This, even though all processes appear to have their root relative to /rootfs. Also, when the rc scripts try to mount the root read-only, they actually try to mount /dev/gpt/rootfs mixing with the mount options for the tmpfs (size=1g). Everything appears mixed. In Linux, there is a utility called switch_root which not only chroots, but it also gets the old root unmounted and the old world really does go away. Is this possible to achieve in FreeBSD? Oh, and a third question: 3) Why is the loader so slow to read an mfs root image (even compressed)? Can I speed it up? Thank you all, comments are welcome too, -- Miguel Ramos pgp:A006A14C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 14:02:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9039AF3 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com (mail-wi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59EE9627 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibg7 with SMTP id g7so10179662wib.1 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:02:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:date:mime-version:subject:message-id:priority:in-reply-to :references:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-description; bh=4Dif3CHfGH/9P+9QfBBl/8Mzx+6yQNQ0T1C62SDRGP8=; b=c3fEtwwy1r/oT8ZWSxq7UOzEWQ+CXEVvufhWBxwPOrrqYFbB91hyS6E8kY3YpThQOP QazChQrJCb+PR9SjGFHVOSabh70RPhPP4wCf2qjJuLj5sVZFpT8E2699djYxt7TUX/pf MgElK85jz0kwJqFduZ9ZtezhssbQYv0Ln+qvrUswCsZd2gQuIfyIZbJzrH30WN3n2wXH xs+cWBZ+qslaKoSZ8EGg2TjrcYjCYctu1oqMO3Fue9PPEWQvs7ifJCxbNstlC9g5fEnt /V6prDO5TUDE6DHN4ybkht+SdWDsQWTT5hOcJG9hoxmmYA9H090EuW9CKNfG8pAkhEae 1xHw== X-Received: by 10.194.61.12 with SMTP id l12mr151838998wjr.139.1426773756800; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.16.86] ([217.41.35.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hd10sm7664294wib.7.2015.03.19.07.02.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:02:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave B" To: Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:02:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OT dialup] Re: thrashing + lost files Message-ID: <550AD6FA.25868.132A25C@g8kbvdave.googlemail.com> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <0M8Nme-1ZTz3v3hkQ-00vvpg@mail.gmx.com> References: <0M8Nme-1ZTz3v3hkQ-00vvpg@mail.gmx.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:02:38 -0000 > > A common reply would be: "Who still uses dial-up anyway?" ;-) > > 10s of millions in the USA. High-speed internet is way too expensive, > over $100/mo where I live. Over $1200/yr. Easily 5-10% of take-home > salary for many minimal wage workers. And a lot of people with a mobile connection, stuck with GPRS in remote(ish) areas, though when it works, it's often more than quick enough for text mode BBS's and the like, but not for anything that uses layer upon layer of javascript! Dave B. 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[76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c8sm1485412igx.9.2015.03.19.07.52.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550AE2A7.3010903@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:52:23 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: public network traffic to my ip address port 53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:52:21 -0000 In my firewall log I see thousands of udp packets from ip addresses all over the word trying to access my freebsd gateway server on port 53. Right now I am blocking them and see no negative effects. Is there any valid reason to allow these unsolicited inbound packets access to my system on port 53? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 14:55:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70AD2AE6 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpauth.rollernet.us (smtpauth.rollernet.us [IPv6:2607:fe70:0:3::d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 554C8C89 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpauth.rollernet.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpauth.rollernet.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF0A5940AA; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w500-wifi.ramos.link (w500-wifi.ramos.link [IPv6:2a01:240:fe00:82e4:216:eaff:fec1:77da]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.rollernet.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1426776935.9502.2.camel@miguel.ramos.name> Subject: Re: public network traffic to my ip address port 53 From: Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos To: Ernie Luzar Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:55:35 +0000 In-Reply-To: <550AE2A7.3010903@gmail.com> References: <550AE2A7.3010903@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rollernet-Abuse: Processed by Roller Network Mail Services. Contact abuse@rollernet.us to report violations. Abuse policy: http://www.rollernet.us/policy X-Rollernet-Submit: Submit ID 5dbf.550ae36b.878d7.0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:55:44 -0000 A Qui, 19-03-2015 às 10:52 -0400, Ernie Luzar escreveu: > In my firewall log I see thousands of udp packets from ip addresses all > over the word trying to access my freebsd gateway server on port 53. > Right now I am blocking them and see no negative effects. > Is there any valid reason to allow these unsolicited inbound packets > access to my system on port 53? UDP port 53 is for DNS name resolution. You can block them, since you don't run a name server (otherwise, you would know what port 53 is for). However, if no one is listening on port 53, there isn't much reason to block it at the firewall. -- Miguel Ramos pgp:A006A14C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 14:55:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A58F9AE7 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F6FFC8A for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CDB160B0A; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:55:29 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1426776928; x=1428591329; bh=VOE6DLPUo 3dIDZoG0rxPwsLz7FpynA02FN6EBgtYQTg=; b=DSHr10sMPIp/VvzqACsI72uXa bGJz0lJBaW+ZOM+9YPcOunuBd4K2X7bJp4ASRfzhPrKLJEBaZEQAPCfyDZd5fPN6 ntkzTj+5HfarDZNSp2mTiHu9zqraTAM0CNjnNa1UuJZqm+syTP2eMiWRcL/CXlcT Uw0GuEq4t5SLCwezgg= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id sh3oocoW1JNQ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:55:28 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51BC4160B09; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:55:28 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id t2JEta6x081938; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:55:36 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: Ernie Luzar Subject: Re: public network traffic to my ip address port 53 In-Reply-To: <550AE2A7.3010903@gmail.com> (message from Ernie Luzar on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:52:23 -0400) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 21:55:36 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 14:55:45 -0000 Ernie, > In my firewall log I see thousands of udp packets from ip addresses all > over the word trying to access my freebsd gateway server on port 53. > Right now I am blocking them and see no negative effects. > Is there any valid reason to allow these unsolicited inbound packets > access to my system on port 53? You know port 53 is DNS? Maybe your IP was previously used by a DNS server. If you bloc port 53, you may consider leaving it open enough to be able to solve your own DNS requests. Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 15:10:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15B7FFA for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2798E02 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t2JFAGuL018409 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:10:23 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t2JFAGuL018409 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t2JFAGuL018409; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <550AE6D5.3000109@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:10:13 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: public network traffic to my ip address port 53 References: <550AE2A7.3010903@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <550AE2A7.3010903@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Ug0JedUG6bIoAOpTp2Wkxw04ooETMNNxR" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:10:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Ug0JedUG6bIoAOpTp2Wkxw04ooETMNNxR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/19/15 14:52, Ernie Luzar wrote: > In my firewall log I see thousands of udp packets from ip addresses all= > over the word trying to access my freebsd gateway server on port 53. > Right now I am blocking them and see no negative effects. > Is there any valid reason to allow these unsolicited inbound packets > access to my system on port 53? This is DNS traffic. There's no need to allow people from outside to connect into your systems unless you're running an authoritative DNS server, but you should be aware that most of the DNS traffic you see will probably have originated from your own systems, and you are seeing the responses to queries your users have made. This will frequently involve servers not obviously related to the addresses you're looking up, as your systems try and find the right authoritative servers. Note that while DNS is (mostly) a UDP protocol. and UDP is stateless, so all you can see are packets going in various directions and no established connections, any stateful firewall such as pf or ipfw will allow you to permit outgoing queries only, by using stateful firewall rul= es. 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[76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w17sm1093442iod.44.2015.03.19.08.26.53 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550AEAC2.8040000@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:26:58 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: public network traffic to my ip address port 53 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:26:55 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Ernie, > > >> In my firewall log I see thousands of udp packets from ip addresses all >> over the word trying to access my freebsd gateway server on port 53. >> Right now I am blocking them and see no negative effects. >> Is there any valid reason to allow these unsolicited inbound packets >> access to my system on port 53? >> > > You know port 53 is DNS? > > Maybe your IP was previously used by a DNS server. > > If you bloc port 53, you may consider leaving it open enough to be able > to solve your own DNS requests. > > Olivier > > I have been running this home server for 15 years and have never had a dsn server. Last time I scrutinized my firewall log was 2 plus years ago and I did not have all this unsolicited inbound dns traffic. To me it looks like a search for dos targets. To my knowledge dsn servers DON'T roll through pubic IP address ranges looking for other dsn servers. So I ask the question again "Is there any valid reason to allow these unsolicited inbound packets access to my system on port 53?". 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[76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b1sm4283619igl.7.2015.03.19.08.31.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Mar 2015 08:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550AEBDD.8010405@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:31:41 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: public network traffic to my ip address port 53 References: <550AE2A7.3010903@gmail.com> <550AE6D5.3000109@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <550AE6D5.3000109@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:31:37 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 03/19/15 14:52, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> In my firewall log I see thousands of udp packets from ip addresses all >> over the word trying to access my freebsd gateway server on port 53. >> Right now I am blocking them and see no negative effects. >> Is there any valid reason to allow these unsolicited inbound packets >> access to my system on port 53? >> > > This is DNS traffic. There's no need to allow people from outside to > connect into your systems unless you're running an authoritative DNS > server, but you should be aware that most of the DNS traffic you see > will probably have originated from your own systems, and you are seeing > the responses to queries your users have made. This will frequently > involve servers not obviously related to the addresses you're looking > up, as your systems try and find the right authoritative servers. > > Note that while DNS is (mostly) a UDP protocol. and UDP is stateless, so > all you can see are packets going in various directions and no > established connections, any stateful firewall such as pf or ipfw will > allow you to permit outgoing queries only, by using stateful firewall rules. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > I am running ipfilter and it also has stateful UDP rules. That is how I know this inbound dsn traffic is unsolicited. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 15:43:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5EC8A98 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4727427D for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t2JFgt3N019093 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:42:55 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t2JFgt3N019093 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1426779775; bh=LN/K41T9OtH1UtNXWwGPg8O/bm5l8xZy7wd8wcUhCO4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Thu,=2019=20Mar=202015=2015:42:54=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20public=20network=20traffic=20to=2 0my=20ip=20address=20port=2053|References:=20=20<550AEAC2.8040000@gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<55 0AEAC2.8040000@gmail.com>; b=FGpIYa0zrwUn8eP87NnyzYJw702GQ8yHbUsx5iavn5pxtLctXff3MfOonBOBb+nSG 4pGUiQO0DVxSGkW8RAAHvKauXTrDVyNcguoBNGo5ipJ6PS/FzGYOOeIkv8umj+5tNY P/laoJbt6h77tUdr49aGT78i2WH3ihP7ClRgVduc= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <550AEE7E.2000707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:42:54 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: public network traffic to my ip address port 53 References: <550AEAC2.8040000@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <550AEAC2.8040000@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GOG8wslfBwd4EUiF4aJhI2PsWUdHUxt8F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:43:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GOG8wslfBwd4EUiF4aJhI2PsWUdHUxt8F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/19/15 15:26, Ernie Luzar wrote: > I have been running this home server for 15 years and have never had a > dsn server. > Last time I scrutinized my firewall log was 2 plus years ago and I did= > not have all this unsolicited inbound dns traffic. > To me it looks like a search for dos targets. To my knowledge dsn > servers DON'T roll through pubic IP address ranges looking for other > dsn servers. This is indeed the result of people, or rather, bots, trying to exploit poorly configured recursive DNSes. If they can find a server that responds, they will use it as a traffic amplifier for DoS attacks. Consequently there are a lot of DNS queries hitting random addresses trying to find those poorly configured DNS servers. > So I ask the question again "Is there any valid reason to allow these > unsolicited inbound packets access to my system on port 53?". No. They are bogus. Block them at your firewall. Cheers, Matthew --GOG8wslfBwd4EUiF4aJhI2PsWUdHUxt8F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVCu5/XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTn/1sQAJQEpdhhyHRZ61EM0B6hevQ0 yja1vegs/kSHmhhudeZ5XvOgN5/DWGsWEIvR9Ap8UVSLh/uRY6zg7Fd3dpBrmQdT HfnahSzBxa/wZfM1XtdMmRdoKto3GeYiODgcjgQjG8B4sw5ZZ8Vw7q4X0/KCzdPW EYLGQh+cj0gkapIVgl6qC0mZs48GPkdzQsr9woIvJu/rvSLjkY229ajKDjViCfd1 9vVO+PyCzwSZs4oEfRY00lSpN/CMz9aGlaejGY8J83IamF98+srDis5GpToVP5f+ CvSCtIKezJVSIzAFVPRUhpCLhsQug+KULxOx+pqsVVxi1Rm833KSfavmvpsyPpC/ zuMXhl7ur4lkNmE/qugObM2O6i5PuomRmu49bTKKiA3rAGrDpp6Zwo60VaDsFBlL hsryb9WmF2g/1VzavwD2Apt/CyRxP03xiXDpW6qMSgbuk4NLa/7CEI2eiw2DRcuZ u0wQsDwuouIN/bkfX9o9nazTf3ZkaITYjTFnfkMf8ryrd74jaqp62V0/4JCQy52o WaRS9l2AIKqu+HrQOxzzkU9N69McPIs5gf2y9zkL4kYVz4nzEudeSmCesk/o3W18 geqWtKpdsM+sYJSdJ2gyVR8MU8vbQclam9YMY59d/oYEKerEhoZYdPgkx2HSX1ew M3/VpEW2QlmHhsPo1CGU =VeQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GOG8wslfBwd4EUiF4aJhI2PsWUdHUxt8F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 19 16:25:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44BCCAB5 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com (mail-lb0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3A26A36 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbsy1 with SMTP id sy1so56770511lbb.1 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BmXqkLv38WwTBxRqVrTEMLfQ51lStqpZf3aBWvTR0oQ=; b=zhQxWOr9i6dGsVKWWB9/lQgviz8hU6J7rtJAiOj47WUKkNW88fNK+PdJBdHUdjwW2i 1IiaHHYdBcX4zrrwBSiEtm7bYed1QzB7vgoRJeIQ6qakSNf9IJdtP494RhwlnO8O2yRj XAPSjV8sww+yH0TgwTN2bYeM2t8WtQc84s4qWTFisuyNqObZUEYZ73x/w+xlDi0rmRbb cb7xxC0u9Te5OayNgqAIz/u6/npFypOp1qr5FmZsgBrkKRZW23h14Lu6WqCS0tfh2yGE sP9hv2SgjBu/0ji8pfwqsMqoTo+wbxnpHw3rKYJ0bCe5rRBI1e1dpmTXrRLSoo7F0T1V EvpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.131.66 with SMTP id ok2mr66203581lbb.51.1426782337255; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.212.1 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:25:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150319010245.17075fe5.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <5508B8EB.3050907@gmail.com> <20150319010245.17075fe5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:25:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD recommends not using base unbound for an authoritative server From: Chris Stankevitz To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: reebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:25:40 -0000 Poly, Thank you for your thorough response. On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Polytropon wrote: >> - infrequent updates > > What does "infrequent" mean? What I was referring to here was: I subscribe to freebsd-announce, which as I'm sure you know, sends out an email whenever the OS changes. It explains why it changed, who is affected, etc. These emails (and their associated software releases) are "infrequent" in that I get them less than once per month. I imagine they are infrequent because of the quality of the software in the base OS and not because the OS team is slow an lazy. (although you point out that RELEASE updates are delayed and could leave my system vulnerable... this is scary...) Compare this to the ports tree. I do not get emails whenever there is a change to the ports tree, but I imagine if I did the emails would arrive more frequently than ~1/month and I imagine they would not be chock full of info about the changes, why they were made, who is affected, etc. That being said... I am eager to learn more about the tool you mentioned: pkg audit. Sounds like it provides an approximation to the freebsd-announce messages.... but for the ports vs the base os. 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It explains why it changed, who is > affected, etc. These emails (and their associated software releases) > are "infrequent" in that I get them less than once per month. I > imagine they are infrequent because of the quality of the software in > the base OS and not because the OS team is slow an lazy. (although you > point out that RELEASE updates are delayed and could leave my system > vulnerable... this is scary...) FreeBSD-RELEASE---the version of the OS that gets installed when you download an installation image from freebsd.org---only gets updated any time a serious security hole or system-breaking bug is discovered, or when a new RELEASE is made. That's it. "Minor" bugs get fixed up in the development tree, but aren't actually incorporated into the system until a) the next -RELEASE is made, or b) you rebuild the system from source (if following -CURRENT). Exactly what constitutes a "minor" bug can be subjective, however. 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[73.3.70.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z3sm267063igl.11.2015.03.20.13.51.39 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550C885A.6050307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:51:38 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Users Subject: hdparm: Unable to change master passsword Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 20:51:41 -0000 hdparm -I /dev/sdc . . . . Security: Master password revision code = 65534 supported enabled locked not frozen not expired: security count supported: enhanced erase Security level high # hdparm --user-master m --security-unlock thepassword /dev/sdc security_password="thepassword" /dev/sdc: Issuing SECURITY_UNLOCK command, password="hdparm", user=master SECURITY_UNLOCK: Input/output error From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 15:15:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1B27877 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 15:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A577C137 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 15:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igcau2 with SMTP id au2so8251529igc.1 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 08:15:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=heaUfP/9C9zKjyXIbZmXG/3HM5XzR8mkMiYDD8r5N4U=; b=LnCID8qRLdxwtK2JotVqDc4lOxTcZXHnLjmyQm44706h3Gp3MMTWPyWsHVDAZl+Wil C8Lgg4jyQ77bDFcmup2RuVN0RI1Ew5ofT9Y49PgiN2hySRsG8TMrww18+uaRo30DmtiV 0w/DiVMhqbdhesl5wCGO1TWLA2bPMMF6M/yOz70bds8br5dX3i2EjFBv2YA7cPS1dCXj PeJEK2eL9MG9OjhMet8dtv37Iss+jQnHTDvNSiia0YUYXy32ZgNV4Wzmi1/L5mNFyhma 9e2fryoTesl6DzjqRmUlzPMjjbNhh85b+FbDWn+IWLh8nj6N5km+MKjhWQ9dFFYn7biP Vi9w== X-Received: by 10.107.13.144 with SMTP id 138mr154225262ion.24.1426950925993; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 08:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.1] (cpe-76-190-244-6.neo.res.rr.com. [76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qd2sm1428284igc.22.2015.03.21.08.15.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 08:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550D8B0E.2020406@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:15:26 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: 10.0 system issuing outbound packets to port 25 smtp to 66.96.214.197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 15:15:27 -0000 My ipfilter firewall logs 2 outbound packets on port 25 every 70 minuets. There is no LAN behind this box is it must be coming from the freebsd 10.0 system or from one of the official installed ports I have. Sendmail is disabled and postfix is running in it's place. 66.96.214.197,25 tcp is the target public ip address. How should I go about finding the running task that is doing this??? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 16:52:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 375B8502 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 223CBC9C for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WorkBox.Home (67-4-199-120.mpls.qwest.net [67.4.199.120]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1426956720468527.4105532189797; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:51:57 -0500 From: Bigby James To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exist more advantage in doing design using open source or operating system of closed source? Message-ID: <20150321165157.GA2740@WorkBox.Home> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:52:08 -0000 On 03/13, clark designer wrote: > Exist more advantage in doing design using open source or operating system > of closed source? > > For example, using Linux? > > BSD? > > If yes, what are the advantages? The real answer to this question is another question: Are Windows or OS X "good for design?" The answer to that question is "No," because you're not using the operating system to do the design work. You're using software installed on top of the operating system to do the work. There are a number of free and open-source tools (which the other two respondents here have mentioned) that can be used for design, and those tools serve a lot of people very well. Inkscape, GIMP and Blender are notably widespread and well-maintianed, though not as popular as their Adobe/AutoDesk equivalents. All of them are available on multiple platforms (operating systems) as well. It's really a matter of choice: You can save money by using the FOSS tools, but you'll still need to spend time and energy learning how to use them to accomplish your goals, and if you're taking courses to train you as a designer you'll almost certainly be using Adobe or Corel tools in those courses. Trying to learn the fundamentals of design themselves, the software used in your course, and the FOSS alternatives available all at once would almost certainly be a fool's errand. Better to learn what to do and how to do it with one piece of software---say, Photoshop---then learn how to do the same thing in its FOSS equivalent (in the case of Photoshop, that would be GIMP). These tools are all capable of the same things, but do those things in different ways. Before you can learn what those different ways are you'll need to learn what it is you're actually doing, and using the tools provided in your courses would probably be the sane way to start. What I would definitely encourage, regardless of the software used, is to adhere as much as possible to open standards and file formats. Prefer PDF to .docx, SVG to .ai, OGG to MP4 and the like. If you're doing any design for the web, adhere to the web's open standards and write any and all code from scratch using a good text editor like Vim, EMACS or Sublime rather than using some "smart" garbage like Dreamweaver. This all ensures that your design work can be opened (and edited) from any computer that any potential client, collaborator or critic might use. There are several tools that you as a designer can use to maximize your potential, and some of them do happen to be free and open-source, and being free and open-source can give those tools some advantages (like being available everywhere and being frequently updated), but I would not say that those tools' being free and open-source will give you any objective advantage as a designer. It's a matter of you finding the tools that you're comfortable with and making them work for you. There are several insanely popular open-source projects out there that lots of people use because they're arguably better than the alternatives, but not many people would claim that they are better *because* they follow the FOSS model. As for me, I ran Linux as my main operating system for the better part of seven years and have been running FreeBSD for several months, but I confess that since I was trained to use Adobe tools *and* was made to pay about $320 USD for them myself, I've just kept using them out of habit and to make good on that cash investment. I have a Windows 7 Pro license that I used to install Windows 7 in a VirtualBox instance, and start that up inside FreeBSD when I need to do some graphics work. I can do all of the writing, coding and file manipulation I need to in an operating system I love, and use the one I don't really like just for the graphics work without the need to reboot or maintain another operating system. Not ideal, but it works very well. -- "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 16:57:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0F6E977 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com (mail-ig0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0838CF1 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so10662945igb.1 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=8CGDhRsQDo6v6cFok6UzozyEFKNVFntBqIKR7js/pA4=; b=v8ZBM19tj2CMqzJM9h259Ujgp51lDHoCxUWGX3TYWERY2PNZa4CuIASatlIUCW0ndo icrgjax6J0k0Wkn0IKhBSF5OjoFUX5OZ/Y6gzBGO/yGYJPbi/ZVyPdprweaHPI60c4UV bDrXgm1DqtzEUMN5aZzOIM0wkOmEX/Mt9rqH6LQT3sYkC1WJLGeYH+lPP1P8iDi71Q+k HCXNlYUn+nioePwI2ygqC4Y5DAMucYMqPE7qqlVWgqTPq7DZ9k45nNch6qBdg1CZRHHi SmU2nfLok7AkszYQALZqAT6v8TG/zgeQtv5zcPXgMk1OVBAb+oRxOiAb9IkRTOgp3pcg 1Nxg== X-Received: by 10.50.118.97 with SMTP id kl1mr4141981igb.23.1426957044887; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.89.100] (192-171-49-199.cpe.pppoe.ca. [192.171.49.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w5sm1634982igk.7.2015.03.21.09.57.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: 10.0 system issuing outbound packets to port 25 smtp to 66.96.214.197 From: The Lost Admin In-Reply-To: <550D8B0E.2020406@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 12:57:21 -0400 Message-Id: <1B9D189E-4FD6-495D-8381-E0E3CFF5A2A2@gmail.com> References: <550D8B0E.2020406@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:57:26 -0000 Ernie, Did you do an nslookup on the address in question? I did and it is = listed as part of the hostnoc.net domain. Googling that domain gets some = pretty fishy results in the top 10. The Lost Admin thelostadmin@gmail.com On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > My ipfilter firewall logs 2 outbound packets on port 25 every 70 = minuets. There is no LAN behind this box is it must be coming from the > freebsd 10.0 system or from one of the official installed ports I = have. > Sendmail is disabled and postfix is running in it's place. >=20 > 66.96.214.197,25 tcp is the target public ip address. >=20 > How should I go about finding the running task that is doing this??? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 17:03:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50696ACC for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.vin-dit.org (mail.vin-dit.org [81.209.165.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA6DBA for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.61.214] (pool-71-163-186-18.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.186.18]) by mail.vin-dit.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B484482AD; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 12:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Exist more advantage in doing design using open source or operating system of closed source? From: John Holland In-Reply-To: <20150321165157.GA2740@WorkBox.Home> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 12:56:14 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9C384F2A-DE7A-4AEC-AFA5-81FA0901F984@vin-dit.org> References: <20150321165157.GA2740@WorkBox.Home> To: Bigby James X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:03:55 -0000 why the switch to freebsd and what virtualization solution are you = using? On Mar 21, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Bigby James = wrote: > On 03/13, clark designer wrote: >> Exist more advantage in doing design using open source or operating = system >> of=85. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 17:27:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8367DBBE for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x22e.google.com (mail-qg0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3629DB for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qgez102 with SMTP id z102so28085593qge.3 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kEDwyVRooLWXkgmtcmnB0GXzFcIz1+0t72E5v4fedVk=; b=kLVUC86a0YOJI/86NYouttXSclJ59qjbz1Md3obOrLAxAXijRTMgbzt9/Dgic3f0es o4JBBdkwS6nTgDMbR/itiY4PTBV5o2ESKapYgbw5+3Lef3XHHj05ewOynpwItr5VMsst Pc9APOTKnHr36Df3SzW4X2GVilesYd6US5EXCquGbppDtpew04xAUuJvIAuJYqt9GuV/ ciHAnqUgGIBU8CMX+s1rxDrqlcalWUOc3E9mWpuxBFkkpjH1RtIPuCr85dO0VrpNo7kY Q2Dn0yUHkdzgKqYdaCCkSHjxT2oR7y4vjgJphS8JefBx2UrOVqHBnF3Logwy67ehZIdg JL8A== X-Received: by 10.229.28.9 with SMTP id k9mr98453800qcc.11.1426958868408; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.1] (cpe-76-190-244-6.neo.res.rr.com. [76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e69sm5476482qka.40.2015.03.21.10.27.47 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550DAA1A.50002@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:27:54 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Lost Admin Subject: Re: 10.0 system issuing outbound packets to port 25 smtp to 66.96.214.197 References: <550D8B0E.2020406@gmail.com> <1B9D189E-4FD6-495D-8381-E0E3CFF5A2A2@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1B9D189E-4FD6-495D-8381-E0E3CFF5A2A2@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:27:49 -0000 > > On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Ernie Luzar > wrote: > >> My ipfilter firewall logs 2 outbound packets on port 25 every 70 >> minuets. There is no LAN behind this box so it must be coming from the >> freebsd 10.0 system or from one of the official installed ports I have. >> Sendmail is disabled and postfix is running in it's place. >> >> 66.96.214.197,25 tcp is the target public ip address. >> >> How should I go about finding the running task that is doing this??? > > The Lost Admin wrote: > Ernie, > > Did you do an nslookup on the address in question? I did and it is > listed as part of the hostnoc.net domain. > Googling that domain gets some pretty fishy results in the top 10. > > The Lost Admin > thelostadmin@gmail.com > > The nslookup command has been removed from the base as its obsolete. SO how did you issue that command? whois command says it belongs to Arabsgate My orginal question deals with "why is 10.1 issuing these port 25 packets"? IS my 10.1 system compromised?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 17:30:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9944CC8A for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5766072 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igcau2 with SMTP id au2so12260892igc.0 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:30:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=0g4J5VryhZ4iQLNozL7fW68ck4KGQKUUpnPnbfeFZO8=; b=RpUByH9115YM607ZC2o0GxffWxk58ZYI5yLC65bNww2193U1dCCGVlwiH7OR16/t8g 4jTIOWqhmQGjwMcpS4y7cZiBvP6QwJygODWSXVgKsjFG+Acxlsg67HHdY+BVX1Yn/vfC 4VsQ4tf4uYCqkA6XaKOrqvQl7D50xHG+xEKrp8QPt43FxVEIILd6YArxyCt7L3MGGuAz +txdnjiCVuFrxeYPcuCbUNVwJfwv1iUlstGsc6BJpC3u6Ck3U4VAt9F1kAC8jS5JsblX LRfNxOW4jm9sGdTZk/AK87wow6QGTrx4Biz/12M/ZUOZVkoWHjquQxW6aCg76zekeBXc ctbw== X-Received: by 10.50.122.5 with SMTP id lo5mr4279119igb.37.1426959006789; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.89.100] (192-171-49-199.cpe.pppoe.ca. [192.171.49.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w9sm1701716igl.0.2015.03.21.10.30.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: 10.0 system issuing outbound packets to port 25 smtp to 66.96.214.197 From: The Lost Admin In-Reply-To: <550DAA1A.50002@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:30:03 -0400 Message-Id: <07DB6EB0-0E43-4E21-BBEC-101AA034C8EA@gmail.com> References: <550D8B0E.2020406@gmail.com> <1B9D189E-4FD6-495D-8381-E0E3CFF5A2A2@gmail.com> <550DAA1A.50002@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:30:07 -0000 The Lost Admin thelostadmin@gmail.com On Mar 21, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >=20 >> On Mar 21, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Ernie Luzar > wrote: >>> My ipfilter firewall logs 2 outbound packets on port 25 every 70 = minuets. There is no LAN behind this box so it must be coming from the >>> freebsd 10.0 system or from one of the official installed ports I = have. >>> Sendmail is disabled and postfix is running in it's place. >>>=20 >>> 66.96.214.197,25 tcp is the target public ip address. >>>=20 >>> How should I go about finding the running task that is doing this??? >>=20 > > The Lost Admin wrote: > > Ernie, > > > > Did you do an nslookup on the address in question? I did and it is > > listed as part of the hostnoc.net domain. > > Googling that domain gets some pretty fishy results in the top 10. > > > > The Lost Admin > > thelostadmin@gmail.com > > > > >=20 > The nslookup command has been removed from the base as its obsolete. > SO how did you issue that command? I=92m still on 9.3 BUT you=92ve also got the host and dig commands = instead of nslookup. > whois command says it belongs to Arabsgate >=20 > My orginal question deals with "why is 10.1 issuing these port 25 = packets"? IS my 10.1 system compromised?? >=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 17:57:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 230272D5 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 106CA323 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WorkBox.Home (67-4-199-120.mpls.qwest.net [67.4.199.120]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 142696063587954.50592836229259; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 12:57:13 -0500 From: Bigby James To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of release 10.2 Message-ID: <20150321175713.GA5526@WorkBox.Home> References: <550D9AB2.6060109@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <550D9AB2.6060109@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:57:18 -0000 On 03/21, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Schedule says 10.2 was scheduled for distribution 11/2015. > What is the status? To quote the page that schedule is on: > General discussions about the pending release and known issues should be sent > to the public freebsd-stable mailing list.[1] However, no offense, but I wouldn't bother re-sending this message to the freebsd-stable list. The release schedule for 10.2 was only announced three weeks ago, with a release slated for eight months from now. So the status is "It will probably be done in eight months." Either your question above is not your real question, or there's no real point to asking. [1]: http://www.si.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/schedule.html -- "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 18:34:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E33EC4A for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x233.google.com (mail-oi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E3BA92F for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oigv203 with SMTP id v203so114089049oig.3 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:34:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zKg9WN2G5spQqYFfafLEHBq2a2wkjDUWOvnEX6CtATs=; b=kXDFxu2PEWWKjf1v/itYMAEeVchKyYL3SvBoO4kBI2OPp3NL1tvIYP0hm10anOvbJN Y018VB+dwAwL/JXlcNgafWvJ42WhxVRd9ddkXvp6+cfRaom2CydmUUi8tvLfvE4G7IKp O8rrzwTDme6O2+N4G8wU36H8UlwHyPNQIe+2QLVnfuX9u1rnCj7lyILiVYaojJXbOrSL 4hLJXtvQ8f62Z/rC4vIMcu87nVW2GgsAZy1HJ9aD/cC7QxTWGtnPXmecqznLXyzydQN9 WOuWXBqW9eIug+O9xrgor8AJE8pC/zvd2WspBWVK4Jun5Q6dATMznlGT+n2Kn1H4JJlj XbTQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.197.139 with SMTP id v133mr30937367oif.1.1426962875555; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.61.85 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.61.85 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 11:34:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <550D9AB2.6060109@gmail.com> References: <550D9AB2.6060109@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 19:34:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qfJSAGblK3YtNKl-0eGDSqBe-Z0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Status of release 10.2 From: CeDeROM To: Ernie Luzar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:34:36 -0000 "What day is it? What year?" /The Terminator :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 19:48:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0E3383F for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 19:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DB77B2 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 19:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-72.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.72]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t2LJlthP019338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:47:57 -0500 Message-ID: <550DCC62.7090207@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:54:10 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Status of release 10.2 References: <550D9AB2.6060109@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 19:48:05 -0000 On 03/21/15 13:34, CeDeROM wrote: > "What day is it? What year?" /The Terminator :-) > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Very good, I thought I was the only one watching that show :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.