From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 00:54:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06B9B41D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 00:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (mail-ie0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD432A52 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 00:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ierf6 with SMTP id f6so1558580ier.2 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:54:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+kwyiwhg0nDF5mJTanvnPKKKABNO76YaHIFHWC2l16Y=; b=TjajUV9EZNpVCH+l2h1hh/f6XrTzwkDSuNnH7N2fP3jKvou7ClbFKnKPIaBfm9ryCM o8TCZCVB1iGStnPR2H4ObGHPSarU8n//07HDvY4GJdWCvP48/lUsR5TLDC18u0rboTcO XYJLS8C4doe9mDb4P92cJKmjFH6GY416aydr1KV7T3Q4HVXedVVlnkA0Ifm7cdzsrFSy XI+dqRV9xP5E+jZgNtbw2WNezzSLr87dQ8CSyjIhl7ZxhT1c24rCYDpsgaKLLKBIC6+Z jtDeeaetPQeBJO7aF5lUT0kRF4JA1jDbFF6+jqh/nB9gYzDpDR4+36WcMNrYkMDIku2O OjLg== X-Received: by 10.107.132.223 with SMTP id o92mr13034309ioi.49.1428195272119; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t1sm437614igs.0.2015.04.04.17.54.30 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <552087C1.4090109@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 18:54:25 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chop and replace method?? References: <55202099.9090908@radel.com> <552021C5.3010309@gmail.com> <55203049.4010003@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <55203049.4010003@radel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 00:54:33 -0000 On 04/04/2015 12:41 PM, Jon Radel wrote: > >>> >>> sed -i .bak 's/href=\"..\/..\/..\/archival\/archive13\//href=\"/' >>> *.html >>> >> should not the args include >> >> -s, --separate >> >> consider files as separate rather than as a single >> continuous long stream. >> > > ?? There is no -s option for sed in either 8.4 or 10.1 base > version. Which sed is that? FSF running on a Linux box, per chance? > I am using Fedora Linux, with sed-4.2.2-9.fc21.x86_64 Sorry, I did not mean to cause any confusion. As old as sed is, I was not expecting the args to be so different. Did not know that the freebsd sed does not have this arg. My FBSD machine died :( > in any case > > --- > -i extension > Edit files in-place similarly to -I, but treat each file > indepen- > dently from other files. In particular, line numbers in > each > file start at 1, the ``$'' address matches the last line > of the > current file, and address ranges are limited to the > current file. > (See Sed Addresses.) The net result is as though each > file were > edited by a separate sed instance. > --- > > covers what you need in FreeBSD sed. > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 11:36:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5384CE4C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 11:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11EF6FE5 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 11:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D25D25386; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:36:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t35Ba2q3002031; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:36:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:36:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jd1008 Subject: Re: Chop and replace method?? Message-Id: <20150405133602.34ecdee8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <552087C1.4090109@gmail.com> References: <55202099.9090908@radel.com> <552021C5.3010309@gmail.com> <55203049.4010003@radel.com> <552087C1.4090109@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:36:13 -0000 On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 18:54:25 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > I am using Fedora Linux, with sed-4.2.2-9.fc21.x86_64 > Sorry, I did not mean to cause any confusion. As old as sed is, > I was not expecting the args to be so different. > Did not know that the freebsd sed does not have this arg. It's always helpful to check "man awk" for available options. In case you need the "Linux awk" on FreeBSD, just install gawk (GNU awk) from ports. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 13:27:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9DAB1DB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 934B3C7C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 13:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.183] (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A1F47620E7 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 23:18:11 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <55213612.8060600@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:18:10 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User questions Subject: lxde menu disappeared! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 13:27:22 -0000 I have an odd problem which eluding my ability to resolve. The menu on the lxde panel has gone and I cannot find any way to restore it. I have had to do some updates to resolve some other application issues, and had an issue with the fs and SU+J with system panics. That is resolved now (touch wood) and while there are some updates still to be completed, things should be right as lxde updates are completed. A search reveals there should be an update-menus command, but is non existent in the freebsd system. I tried update-desktop-databases but that did nothing. I have rebooted several times in resolving the issue, to no avail as well. Anyone know a fix for this? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 14:19:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9082F964 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D12CA for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 14:19:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru ([212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 38613257 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 20:19:52 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t35EJnsQ052376 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:19:52 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7/Submit) id t35EJnWR052375 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:19:49 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 20:19:49 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Poudriere error: Unable to execute id(1) in jail. Emulation or ABI wrong Message-ID: <20150405141949.GA52341@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: OAO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 14:19:56 -0000 Dear Colleagues, Something suddenly happened to poudriere. Maybe after upgrading to poudriere-devel-3.1.99.20150331. Could you please comment the following error. I begin with /var/poudriere and /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d being empty, cannot even create a jail from scratch: [root@svn64 ~] find /var/poudriere /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d -type f [root@svn64 ~] [root@svn64 ~] !425 poudriere jail -l JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH [root@svn64 ~] !432 poudriere jails -c -j 93amd64 -a amd64 -v 9.3-RELEASE /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/MANIFEST 100% of 782 B 5649 kBps 00m00s [00:00:01] ====>> Fetching base.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/base.txz 100% of 67 MB 3000 kBps 00m23s [00:00:25] ====>> Extracting base.txz... done [00:00:34] ====>> Fetching src.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/src.txz 100% of 98 MB 3591 kBps 00m28s [00:01:03] ====>> Extracting src.txz... done [00:01:31] ====>> Fetching games.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/games.txz100% of 865 kB 42 MBps 00m00s [00:01:32] ====>> Extracting games.txz... done [00:01:32] ====>> Fetching lib32.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/lib32.txz100% of 11 MB 2461 kBps 00m04s [00:01:37] ====>> Extracting lib32.txz... done [00:01:39] ====>> Cleaning up... done [00:01:39] ====>> Recording filesystem state for clean... done [00:01:39] ====>> Upgrading using ftp /etc/resolv.conf -> /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/etc/resolv.conf jail: "93amd64-default" already exists jail: "93amd64-default-n" already exists [00:01:39] 0;31m====>>0;0m 0;31mError: Unable to execute id(1) in jail. Emulation or ABI wrong.0;0m [00:01:39] ====>> Error while creating jail, cleaning up. 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It's a method you plan to use to meet your requirement, but we can only guess at what useful functionality you are making these changes to achieve." Yes that's true. I am working on mrsas(4) driver on FreeBSD. My requirement is to power off the drives (to save power consumption) attached to LSI controller if the system is shutting down. If the system is rebooting then we need not do anything with the drives' power supply. So to make the above things possible the mrsas(4) driver needs to know if the system is really shutting down or it is rebooting. In fact I need the int opt; variable of the structure: struct reboot_args { char opt_l_[PADL_(int)]; int opt; char opt_r_[PADR_(int)]; }; Is there any way to know if the system is shutting down or rebooting from a driver's perspective??? And last but not the least, I really appreciate your reply to my query. Thanks, Sibananda Sahu -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Gilbert [mailto:freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:29 AM To: Sibananda Sahu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to know the system state if the system is going for halt or poweroff or reboot in FreeBSD Sibananda Sahu writes: > Linux has an enum system_state the denotes about the current system state. > > These values are set in the system_state global variable according to > the current system state of either restart, booting or power off etc. > > > > See the below link for the header: > > http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/kernel.h#L450 > > > > I want the similar implementation in FreeBSD. > > For the same I searched the source code and following are my observations: > > - For shutdown -h now, shutdown -p now, poweroff, init 0, init 6 > and reboot sys_reboot() is called. > > - Sys_reboot() will call kern_reboot() which inturn endup calling > EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE(shutdown_final, howto); > > - Based on the howto variable passed to the kern_reboot() call, > corresponding event handlers will be invoked. > > - For a reboot request shutdown_reset(), or for a halt request > shutdown_halt() and so on. > > > > Initially I thought the "rebooting" global variable used inside > kern_reboot() function is set only while rebooting the system but > after some exercises I realized that the global variable "rebooting" > is set to 1 for halt, poweroff and reboot. I mean if the system is > powering off then also the rebooting value is set to 1, which was really confusing for me. > > > > My requirement is to know the exact reason of shutdown, whether is it > a power-off or a reboot call. That's not really a requirement. It's a method you plan to use to meet your requirement, but we can only guess at what useful functionality you are making these changes to achieve. > And I can get the information from the "howto" variable that is passed > to the kern_reboot() function call, but this variable is local to > kern_reboot() only. I suspect that you're looking at this much later in the process than I would recommend. You probably should be doing something with this information (logging it?) when the reboot_args struct is being set up. > SO IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO GET THE SYSTEM STATE IN FREEBSD??? Please don't shout. 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[76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i80sm2510865iod.6.2015.04.06.03.20.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Apr 2015 03:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55225E09.8080505@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 06:20:57 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: set securelevel without a reboot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:20:54 -0000 Is there a way to enable kern_securelevel beside putting the statements in rc.conf and rebooting the system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 10:51:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B00A7B5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hercules.mthelicon.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:49f0:2043::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Hercules Email Client", Issuer "Mt. Helicon Master CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17F2C654 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feathers.peganest.com (host86-128-213-192.range86-128.btcentralplus.com [86.128.213.192]) (authenticated bits=0) by hercules.mthelicon.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t36ApH8U098296 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Apr 2015 05:51:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Message-ID: <55226520.3050607@mthelicon.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:51:12 +0000 From: Pegasus Mc Cleaft User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ernie Luzar , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: set securelevel without a reboot References: <55225E09.8080505@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55225E09.8080505@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on hercules.mthelicon.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:51:21 -0000 On 04/06/15 10:20, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Is there a way to enable kern_securelevel beside putting the statements > in rc.conf and rebooting the system? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Set the sysctl variable: sysctl kern.securelevel=1 (or whatever level you wish) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 10:58:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5415A8A0 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE4F3772 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t36AvaLw056317; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 11:57:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <552266A0.6050301@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:57:36 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ernie Luzar , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: set securelevel without a reboot References: <55225E09.8080505@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55225E09.8080505@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:58:22 -0000 On 06/04/2015 11:20, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Is there a way to enable kern_securelevel beside putting the statements > in rc.conf and rebooting the system? man 7 security "The security level can be set with a sysctl(8) on the kern.securelevel variable." That's all that the rc script does. 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I have several jails and some of the use real ips, some are just internal for the server like 10.0.0.x However, i assigned all ips to the external em0 interface. This causes problems, because of server in the same lan have 10.0.0.x address of their interfaces too. So, there is a conflict. This is just a colocation, so, i cannot control the ip assignment. What is the correct way to assign ip address which are seen only withing a host? (some kind of virtual NIC) Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 14:46:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE460A3C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 14:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (mail-ie0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 900F5169 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 14:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iebmp1 with SMTP id mp1so22592827ieb.0 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2a/AUr2y8RI8UJu/82Rl8IC5t87Pd9LnsPVW1E1oHqI=; b=I1gkzRKu4GFYqEgxAR2kRZ7qiFCEiv8fiLwgnhJZsqAwaIkGFW+Bk7ldJv3nKHe9AC yKuShnR40DxAko9GkHWVAVj/CMXpNcKA44tc0WUmWJYK4qivXxFLl1uFz8sTLmAErVD+ wnrcSKtF4cj/JRCVciXT2KHsrIRV2UP/NWZmRMzAg+jts5AjTQ5jIUIML0mEzpf1sLKs p6XinYfQxBvbKuu8Yix6AETm/iOrU5kNuOJLyDSFZCsetHn1rL+nPNS79QlKcEG+YbqD 5nUANp5BeGGFPysKI7WY90hjeo9fQh17BNLbDMpHVbc6zalzR2Uc9WfIFQzQFzUF5qqk CfGg== X-Received: by 10.42.249.77 with SMTP id mj13mr20042412icb.80.1428331583933; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.5] (cpe-76-190-244-6.neo.res.rr.com. [76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h15sm2820646ioh.27.2015.04.06.07.46.22 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Apr 2015 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55229C4E.5050504@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:46:38 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: how to do interval jail ips References: <552297B5.1030203@artem.ru> In-Reply-To: <552297B5.1030203@artem.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:46:24 -0000 Artem Kuchin wrote: > Hello! > > I have several jails and some of the use real ips, some are just > internal for the server like 10.0.0.x > However, i assigned all ips to the external em0 interface. > This causes problems, because of server in the same lan have 10.0.0.x > address of their interfaces too. > So, there is a conflict. > This is just a colocation, so, i cannot control the ip assignment. > > What is the correct way to assign ip address which are seen only withing > a host? > (some kind of virtual NIC) > > Artem > xl0,10.0.10.2 for lan on device xl0 em0,x.x.x.x for rl0 device facing pubic internet use the correct device names for you network configuration From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 14:53:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40DCEF6C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 14:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp38.i.mail.ru (smtp38.i.mail.ru [94.100.177.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AACC127C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 14:53:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail2; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=+uEzwS+UOgtiLoH+xOPoh8op7HBopndEOBACsChv9r4=; b=GuEG21hbrCA59I0GTvcJTxWSoscZVoMuA7Tq9xYTR77Xf9bBTEOPZNjRKDMLj9npIZXce8oQtnKSMYvm9lDFw1vWGI6hq1fwGyS+gfzvHH24gj1sbVNHSWcsE9APO6aoU3dclTQYOEu7S4zQR+hnEwbHSw7YouNAcC2ucmRm4sI=; Received: from [109.188.125.8] (port=18233 helo=[192.168.0.12]) by smtp38.i.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1Yf8Ob-00086S-Tz; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:53:02 +0300 Message-ID: <55229DE1.5050700@artem.ru> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:53:21 +0300 From: Artem Kuchin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ernie Luzar Subject: Re: how to do interval jail ips References: <552297B5.1030203@artem.ru> <55229C4E.5050504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55229C4E.5050504@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 14:53:11 -0000 06.04.2015 17:46, Ernie Luzar пишет: > Artem Kuchin wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I have several jails and some of the use real ips, some are just >> internal for the server like 10.0.0.x >> However, i assigned all ips to the external em0 interface. >> This causes problems, because of server in the same lan have 10.0.0.x >> address of their interfaces too. >> So, there is a conflict. >> This is just a colocation, so, i cannot control the ip assignment. >> >> What is the correct way to assign ip address which are seen only >> withing a host? >> (some kind of virtual NIC) >> >> Artem >> > > xl0,10.0.10.2 for lan on device xl0 > > em0,x.x.x.x for rl0 device facing pubic internet > > use the correct device names for you network configuration > i don't get it. I do not have xl0 device I only have em0 Or i can specify whatever device i like even if it is not installed in the server? Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 15:25:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81699962 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A8257C3 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.local ([192.168.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t36FPMpl094181 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 16:25:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t36FPMpl094181 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1428333923; bh=DKdziLkYfvw2XorshI5SXncvJsT/Tv39WyT46PVzGGA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Mon,=2006=20Apr=202015=2016:25:13=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20how=20to=20do=20interval=20jail=2 0ips|References:=20<552297B5.1030203@artem.ru>=20<55229C4E.5050504 @gmail.com>=20<55229DE1.5050700@artem.ru>|In-Reply-To:=20<55229DE1 .5050700@artem.ru>; b=d4Ju9Cnz6A71Nt/tIc+Oq+LU45k6Jx7QjghpGnPVk/gwoSzW3Lg3vjM0fz0BBpHbe UulUO72GNKNia+boZ586wjXYpNqJBYnln/99T9fnhdSPGRlLtq3oKJ3LxzgV2rwK5K RizAlkxkN1BASMxnaIoxCuGY2e/61TYpa9ON78BU= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [192.168.100.2] claimed to be seedling.local Message-ID: <5522A559.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:25:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to do interval jail ips References: <552297B5.1030203@artem.ru> <55229C4E.5050504@gmail.com> <55229DE1.5050700@artem.ru> In-Reply-To: <55229DE1.5050700@artem.ru> OpenPGP: id=C07BF5E310AE64BF6120B0F636A7C05FE1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eQKprpiKVlLkIDrGTHfVG40lC1JHeQaPc" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:25:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --eQKprpiKVlLkIDrGTHfVG40lC1JHeQaPc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/04/2015 15:53, Artem Kuchin wrote: > 06.04.2015 17:46, Ernie Luzar =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> Artem Kuchin wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> I have several jails and some of the use real ips, some are just >>> internal for the server like 10.0.0.x >>> However, i assigned all ips to the external em0 interface. >>> This causes problems, because of server in the same lan have 10.0.0.x= >>> address of their interfaces too. >>> So, there is a conflict. >>> This is just a colocation, so, i cannot control the ip assignment. >>> >>> What is the correct way to assign ip address which are seen only >>> withing a host? >>> (some kind of virtual NIC) >>> >>> Artem >>> >> >> xl0,10.0.10.2 for lan on device xl0 >> >> em0,x.x.x.x for rl0 device facing pubic internet >> >> use the correct device names for you network configuration >> >=20 > i don't get it. I do not have xl0 device > I only have em0 > Or i can specify whatever device i like even if it is not installed in > the server? You can create jail IPs bound to the loopback interface lo0 exactly as you would for a standard NIC. Be aware though that if you assign your internal IPs from, say, 10.11.0.0/24 that will mean you would have trouble reaching anything on that particular subnet via your network interface. However as this will be entirely internal to your machine, you could choose whatever IPs you liked -- but preferably use ones from the RFC1918[*] defined ranges. Cheers, Matthew [*] Technically RFC6761 nowadays, but that covers a lot more than just the reserved private address ranges. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --eQKprpiKVlLkIDrGTHfVG40lC1JHeQaPc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVIqViXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT08YP/2Cn3UiYyLUo7MVmey4GEXB2 M+1g4UbUCnhlbJv0AZvLtoHblmosejYFiSNzDCNoP88vGAREoQIxVOA67JEplvB3 DYvEpo3mScTlXOnLf9ueNHGgsxi1q6nl2w5KObcGo0OF5Defjpak2BQZd3gmkYls G4FmQwMieSiRhDQCWAquYOJCt8qPZcoOg+dOUwncb/W+4bUVlCIOhl/+WnecRD2h U5e0h54byyEjnJriIApxGjzxdv3RFCwqjwEX2yksWc+eJnJa0+Pc+H+0cI+f2lA0 w3hIHC2bMauRkgSeK37lnTz2ZAkou/OJyTiqGrObP+x9X/76jTkHRihLmsfK68ll P0mQGXQm0H4kOCt6P7KFvuuybPOUdrNFWn79gDSb6ti2ohRDPMNH7elTfDg0a0qK ZS2P9aCzvUkWn2AQGeZOtgJPN3hBsHB76VMvY+5iugqgG/C+aKRFCzIZFvPaLF0O pUxgCdCQKNufWEzieEE+eroSVPR6Bw+p4P2alA+B1DLNyvmdA8gptGi6leQiHPTz pQ0bF3vOxG6nHcAicbUHZyJIg/BQDzS3xEmB1AtG6gltWF2TvA4of0liPUUGYm2q 00PQvyRGJwSJoofQW6pDR8y1ldGUR7uiG1UVLLEIABtgEVFuDounvFG7Bn8gKtbr DasFd/60QgA4gU6BwRYB =8NOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eQKprpiKVlLkIDrGTHfVG40lC1JHeQaPc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 15:38:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B305194 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.mail.ru (smtp1.mail.ru [94.100.179.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEA91925 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:38:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail2; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=XKXpaLA/nMGdVbt6S8YaKun2dXrN13EYsa5YYn42ZFQ=; b=URPHBS5sr4b9RK8coeqb4R4Aq8oQDicOxdsmy+3uOfJVJ7bRHXaweWfCykDEUSsJb67msUMSyO0C0z8XtcBpX9sGxX0wLrJ5WMgOUtPnatMYfiGvrJvPYM3pwGHiDAGk63/w1v4pcy4Rd8uoaw/cAkV8PEAOpTQVea6XWn3Ynrc=; Received: from [109.188.125.8] (port=44051 helo=[192.168.0.12]) by smtp1.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1Yf96h-0005JY-Re for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 18:38:41 +0300 Message-ID: <5522A88F.4020500@artem.ru> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 18:38:55 +0300 From: Artem Kuchin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to do interval jail ips References: <552297B5.1030203@artem.ru> <55229C4E.5050504@gmail.com> <55229DE1.5050700@artem.ru> <5522A559.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5522A559.8050407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:38:50 -0000 06.04.2015 18:25, Matthew Seaman пишет: > On 06/04/2015 15:53, Artem Kuchin wrote: >> 06.04.2015 17:46, Ernie Luzar пишет: >>> Artem Kuchin wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> I have several jails and some of the use real ips, some are just >>>> internal for the server like 10.0.0.x >>>> However, i assigned all ips to the external em0 interface. >>>> This causes problems, because of server in the same lan have 10.0.0.x >>>> address of their interfaces too. >>>> So, there is a conflict. >>>> This is just a colocation, so, i cannot control the ip assignment. >>>> >>>> What is the correct way to assign ip address which are seen only >>>> withing a host? >>>> (some kind of virtual NIC) >>>> >>>> Artem >>>> >>> xl0,10.0.10.2 for lan on device xl0 >>> >>> em0,x.x.x.x for rl0 device facing pubic internet >>> >>> use the correct device names for you network configuration >>> >> i don't get it. I do not have xl0 device >> I only have em0 >> Or i can specify whatever device i like even if it is not installed in >> the server? > You can create jail IPs bound to the loopback interface lo0 exactly as > you would for a standard NIC. Need a little clarification. Do you mean i need to specify ip aliases on lo0 interfaces in rc.conf and then specify that ip in jail conf?? > Be aware though that if you assign your internal IPs from, say, > 10.11.0.0/24 that will mean you would have trouble reaching anything on > that particular subnet via your network interface. This is understood. It is a colocation server. No need to access anything localy. VPN is also not up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 17:49:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F5A513B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 17:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 477B9A69 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 17:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AC939DC38 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38977-06 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp130.eng.networktest.com (ns.networktest.com [12.20.174.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDE7E39DC2E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 10:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 10:43:58 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: creating a virtual clone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:49:10 -0000 To test some new software, I'd like to replicate a 9.3-RELEASE machine and run it as a virtual machine (in this case inside VMware vSphere, but I'm open to using other hypervisors if this isn't possible with VMware). The 9.3 host is itself virtual, running as a VPS instance in a colo. What's the best way to do this? Thanks! dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 19:00:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B852373 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 19:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 393E6378 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 19:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t36J0YHZ028203; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:00:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <5522D7DA.7070304@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 15:00:42 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Newman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a virtual clone References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 19:00:37 -0000 On 4/6/2015 1:43 PM, David Newman wrote: > To test some new software, I'd like to replicate a 9.3-RELEASE machine > and run it as a virtual machine (in this case inside VMware vSphere, but > I'm open to using other hypervisors if this isn't possible with VMware). > > The 9.3 host is itself virtual, running as a VPS instance in a colo. > > What's the best way to do this? Not sure the best way to convert directly to VMWare, but if you have a spare machine with VirtualBox on it, you can use its tools to create a .ovf file which you can then import. (there might be a similar tool on VMWare). I just did one from dump files not too long ago. You could use dd, but the nice thing about dump is, you can size the disk to what you want. truncate -s10G importfile.dd mdconfig -t vnode -f importfile.dd gpart create -s mbr md0 gpart add -t freebsd md0 gpart set -a active -i 1 md0 gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr md0 gpart create -s bsd md0s1 gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot md0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 1G md0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 1G md0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 2G md0s1 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs md0s1 newfs -U -O1 /dev/md0s1a #O2 for RELENG7 and above newfs -U -O2 /dev/md0s1d newfs -U -O2 /dev/md0s1e mkdir /mnt/root mkdir /mnt/usr mkdir /mnt/var mount /dev/md0s1a /mnt/root/ mount /dev/md0s1d /mnt/var mount /dev/md0s1e /mnt/usr cd /mnt/root gzcat /backups/dump-root0.gz | restore -rf - cd /mnt/usr gzcat /backups/dump-usr0.gz | restore -rf - cd /mnt/var gzcat /backups/dump-var0.gz | restore -rf - # You might need to adjust /mnt/root/etc/fstab to reflect the new locations umount /mnt/root umount /mnt/var umount /mnt/usr mdconfig -d -u -0 Then lets convert the file VBoxManage convertfromraw importfile.dd target.vdi --format VDI Now we create the VM and attach the disk. Easiest is through the web/gui interface new VM BSD 32bit BSD (or 64 if its a 64bit image) Use existing HD, and point it to target.vdi You can then export, or try importing the .vdi directly into vmware as a disk ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 6 21:34:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72A7FDA7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465AE9BE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1502333C18; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 17:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1CF5C3983C; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 17:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Sibananda Sahu Subject: Re: How to know the system state if the system is going for halt or poweroff or reboot in FreeBSD References: <0a2b68c0f411b50a276ce00a8d8b15ee@mail.gmail.com> <444mp2avfy.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <78386e1c45b998c5ae63a63301d1ac23@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:34:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <78386e1c45b998c5ae63a63301d1ac23@mail.gmail.com> (Sibananda Sahu's message of "Mon, 6 Apr 2015 15:07:48 +0530") Message-ID: <44wq1posa6.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:34:20 -0000 Sibananda Sahu writes: > Hi Lowell Gilbert, > > As you said: > "That's not really a requirement. It's a method you plan to use to meet > your requirement, but we can only guess at what useful functionality you > are making these changes to achieve." > > Yes that's true. > > I am working on mrsas(4) driver on FreeBSD. > My requirement is to power off the drives (to save power consumption) > attached to LSI controller if the system is shutting down. > If the system is rebooting then we need not do anything with the drives' > power supply. > > So to make the above things possible the mrsas(4) driver needs to know if > the system is really shutting down or it is rebooting. Okay, that sounds reasonable. I don't know that particular hardware, but I can find a few things in general. You are powering down the drives as a way of putting them in a safe state before control disappears. If the device were capable of shutting itself down independently of the host computer (and had the power supply to do so reliably), I assume you would be doing that instead of worrying about the order in which host components shut down. If the driver already loads an ACPI table, you may want to go through ACPI to trigger your power down command. [I don't have any experience writing code for ACPI either, so I may well be wrong on that point.] Aside from that, you can register a kernel event handler. I am not sure which event you would want to hook, but shutdown_final and shutdown_post_sync would be good candidates. Sibananda Sahu had previously asked: >> - Sys_reboot() will call kern_reboot() which in turn end up calling >> EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE(shutdown_final, howto); >> >> - Based on the howto variable passed to the kern_reboot() call, >> corresponding event handlers will be invoked. You probably understand this already, but in case you don't: shutdown_final is an event for which your driver can register. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 04:28:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC10FA0A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 04:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com (mail-ie0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1AC39E6 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 04:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iebmp1 with SMTP id mp1so37384207ieb.0 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:28:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Rw82I69/1zzkhDC26LlOgAJoWarKZIFoPVe6hWfHjc0=; b=AgYFV5i7egHxAy4EvMCfvEoXgCfaiQxVw9jL7f8dIKlhAlAb8XPFs0Y6hB2SupL/e1 L2XfXqkpfpRYXdMkW5QWTNNN8/RJy3Gr1DJ26a3y9WMYf+Wq3jhgGsftDy1NcfaKbH8S 29GltPdXR5P26XvQvHIABIFErUMlewJP8Pp9Atouqt0n38a72bgsFcxKwlAVX+VpqShL +6NDRijXw0ZG1JVnMZuANWHrNKBFoPfRkcVubNDJeWsnEqYE+xLZutINRycQtcz/z4KF vneVKkrzAFHrEPWgBQX073xlf/wnUCnOCzIO9SACLr8uNfFYeUEkIhl2875hKqCdygoE lJkg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.111.10 with SMTP id ie10mr765078igb.15.1428380886068; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.155.135 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 21:28:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 11:28:05 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bvV3x-LwNKU4lbxWqS3f6yP5LvE Message-ID: Subject: Re: creating a virtual clone From: Olivier Nicole To: David Newman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 04:28:07 -0000 David, My solution is http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/technotes/archives/2015/01/30/how-to_clone_a_freebsd_virtual_machine_on_vmware/index.html certainly not the best/fastest, but it works. Best regards, Olivier On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:43 AM, David Newman wrote: > To test some new software, I'd like to replicate a 9.3-RELEASE machine > and run it as a virtual machine (in this case inside VMware vSphere, but > I'm open to using other hypervisors if this isn't possible with VMware). > > The 9.3 host is itself virtual, running as a VPS instance in a colo. > > What's the best way to do this? > > Thanks! > > dn > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 05:07:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD797E72 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 05:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95562DA3 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 05:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.183] (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A79D061F85 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 15:07:32 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <55236612.4000901@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:07:30 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User questions Subject: Apache, svn, dav, mp42 corruption Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 05:07:38 -0000 Just trying to work with a couple of video files on my webdav system that aren't working properly for some unknown reason. I have an apache24 server with a working webdav/svn setup. Most other video files are working, but I have a few which are simply not working. All is over https (). If I download the file it works from the local system, but if I read it over http mplayer, vlc, ffplay, html5 etc I get a corrupt file. In the logs I get 500 errors - "unable to deliver content". As I mentioned, other mp4 files seem to be fine - they even appear to be mp42 files as well. So I can't work out what is so different with these files that aren't. I've also tried with mod_h264_streaming on (not that it appears to be working as I would have expected). Any ideas on how to debug this one? I've tried my whole toolbox I think... TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 13:24:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E521EB6B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com [195.245.230.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 International Server CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35BC2107 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.245.230.51] by server-17.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id B7/CE-14975-F5AD3255; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:23:43 +0000 X-Env-Sender: james.thain@bdcmagazine.co.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-33.messagelabs.com!1428412809!12020464!52 X-Originating-IP: [78.141.33.27] X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.13.6; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29465 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2015 13:23:38 -0000 Received: from 78-141-33-27.xdsl.murphx.net (HELO mail.bdcmagazine.co.uk) (78.141.33.27) by server-11.tower-33.messagelabs.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2015 13:23:38 -0000 Received: from 78-141-33-27.xdsl.murphx.net (192.168.1.59) by SERVER.cpl.local (192.168.1.201) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.436.0; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:22:01 +0100 From: James Thain Subject: BDC Building Products - BDC Magazine May / June 2015 To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Building Design & Construction Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:22:01 +0100 Message-ID: <4f951aba-e21f-4f92-aaab-b931fcdc0bc7@SERVER.cpl.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:24:02 -0000 Good Afternoon =20 I write with details of a free editorial and photographic piece we are= keen to put together for your company within a forthcoming issue of B= uilding Design & Construction Magazine (BDC). 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If you have received this e-mail in error, please= notify us immediately by return e-mail and delete this e-mail and all attachments from your system. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 14:23:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A15E9A9E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FB94A88 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t37EHUej099962 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:17:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 09:17:30 -0500 From: dweimer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: NTPD in jail Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: <8ee743046ce9a8e9e7e6359150fbfa1e@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 14:23:22 -0000 I understand that a jail can't update the servers time, but I recently migrated a physical FreeBSD machine into a FreeBSD jail. That machine was one of the 3 machines that I ran NTPD on to sync to internet time servers, and pointed my internal machines at. I have configured the host to sync to the internet time servers. And setup the jail to only have the fake fudge 127.127.1.0 server, figuring that the host ntpd process would keep the server synced and this would allow the internal clients to sync to it without having to change them all to point at the hosts IP address instead. I have both processes limited to the correct external IPs to avoid port conflicts, however the jails NTPD service periodically fails, the only log entries I see are the "Apr 7 09:01:27 proxy1 ntpd[48446]: local_clock: ntp_loopfilter.c line 709: ntp_adjtime: Operation not permitted" but at some point it's no longer running to answer query's. I plan to add DNS CNAMEs for NTP1, NTP2, NTP3 to reference the NTP servers from the clients and update the CNAMEs if hosts change in the future. In the short term to make sure clients don't lose their time sync does anyone have a work around that will allow NTPD to run on the jail? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 14:28:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80693D41 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mxout01.bytecamp.net (mxout01.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 386ACB38 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mxout01.bytecamp.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E4B213150AA; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 16:28:04 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=bytecamp.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=20140709; bh=4ykeUyZ1JAPt55xRh7WBzGD+EEY=; b=SjuLXOh4pcL9XRfaXS4Rs0WVX+5CckoAzdg3ACmhpqt2a9FM1GC4HAL2pMHalf1y+md5sqp3oSFroZpBPdcDa0BeOVLR7Yz5DoCQSfC3Wf1VAVc/yn+mV50zxZyP0XjQDsevox1aVdbQHZcXwIRhClvtv/zfBHnF44zJlHS98S4= Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mailstore.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.20]) by mxout01.bytecamp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C163150A9 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 16:28:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 81670 invoked by uid 89); 7 Apr 2015 16:28:04 +0200 Received: from stella.bytecamp.net (HELO ?212.204.60.37?) (rs%bytecamp.net@212.204.60.37) by mail.bytecamp.net with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Apr 2015 16:28:04 +0200 Message-ID: <5523E974.2060601@bytecamp.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 16:28:04 +0200 From: Robert Schulze Organization: bytecamp GmbH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NTPD in jail References: <8ee743046ce9a8e9e7e6359150fbfa1e@dweimer.net> In-Reply-To: <8ee743046ce9a8e9e7e6359150fbfa1e@dweimer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 14:28:14 -0000 Hi, > > In the short term to make sure clients don't lose their time sync does > anyone have a work around that will allow NTPD to run on the jail? > just run it on the host and you'll be fine. No need to run another instance in a jail. regards, Robert Schulze From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 14:44:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19F6B399; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAB29D86; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t37EikEj001118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:44:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 09:44:46 -0500 From: dweimer To: Robert Schulze Subject: Re: NTPD in jail Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <5523E974.2060601@bytecamp.net> References: <8ee743046ce9a8e9e7e6359150fbfa1e@dweimer.net> <5523E974.2060601@bytecamp.net> Message-ID: <85d94af6e6d16f72a168c546246f9c8b@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 14:44:52 -0000 On 04/07/2015 9:28 am, Robert Schulze wrote: > Hi, > >> >> In the short term to make sure clients don't lose their time sync does >> anyone have a work around that will allow NTPD to run on the jail? >> > > just run it on the host and you'll be fine. > No need to run another instance in a jail. Yes I understand that NTPD on the host keeps the server time in sync, including the jail's time its the clients that sync against the jail's IP address that I am trying to take care of. If I take out the IP address restriction on the host's NTPD service and restart it after the jail, yes its now listening on the Jails IP address as well. But that leaves a bunch of questions about when server/service/jails are restarted, what needs to be restarted when to make sure those ports are bound to on the jail's IP as well as the hosts. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 14:58:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12FF1A50 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33A8F08 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 14:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id C9509CB8CA0; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <47304.128.135.70.2.1428418692.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <4f951aba-e21f-4f92-aaab-b931fcdc0bc7@SERVER.cpl.local> References: <4f951aba-e21f-4f92-aaab-b931fcdc0bc7@SERVER.cpl.local> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: BDC Building Products - BDC Magazine May / June 2015 From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "freebsd-questions" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 14:58:20 -0000 I'm not the one who can advise the admins of this list... but I would block everything coming from the domain ...messagelabs.com That domain is created for sending spam. Here is what I have on my servers. Some ignorant folks use messagelabs.com for their legitimate mail, so I can't reject mail from it on my mail servers. Howevever, I do reject mail from it on my mail list servers. Just my $0.02 Valeri On Tue, April 7, 2015 8:22 am, James Thain wrote: > Good Afternoon > > I write with details of a free editorial and photographic piece we are > keen to put together for your company within a forthcoming issue of > Building Design & Construction Magazine (BDC). This would be to appear in > our May / June 2015 issue as part of our focus into Building Products. The > article will be totally free of charge and pain free. We simply require > just 20-30 minutes of your time to spend on the phone with our editor. > Suggested discussion points to be included: > > · Details of you Products / Services / Equiptment > · Recent case studies – New Products > · Company background i.e. history, aims and capabilities > · New technology that is being implemented > · The types of specialist contractors you use > · The effect that sustainability has had on your company > · Ultimately how you plan to stay at the forefront of your > industry > > You are also welcome to highlight any specific products or projects that > you would like to showcase to our readers. > > In order to put the article together a short telephone interview would > need to be done with yourself (or a suitably qualified representative) and > our editor Mr. Dan Stephens. The interview will last no more than 20 - 30 > minutes. The article would be written and sent to you for full approval > before anything goes to print. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify us immediately by return e-mail > and delete this e-mail and all attachments from your system. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 7 17:10:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0B1B855 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 17:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in5.apple.com (mail-out5.apple.com [17.151.62.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45E32302 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 17:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4.apple.com (relay4.apple.com [17.128.113.87]) by mail-in5.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 01.91.12430.28F04255; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:10:26 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e13-f79d56d00000308e-fb-55240f82986b Received: from [17.149.235.34] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.235.34]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay4.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id E4.96.10358.3DF04255; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: Apache, svn, dav, mp42 corruption From: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <55236612.4000901@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:10:25 -0700 Message-Id: <3CDC26DA-1413-4CBE-8C45-3F968413E5A9@mac.com> References: <55236612.4000901@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: Da Rock X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYrtvErxJq8KaD3eLl100sFlfuXWZz YPKY8Wk+i8frjQvZA5iiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDJ651xhLOjUrjh6+zBzA+MU1S5GTg4JAROJ ZYvOsELYYhIX7q1n62Lk4hAS2Mso8blpJiNM0d4Du9lAbCGBqUwSl44IgNjMAgkSfYsesIDY vAIGEnNPfWECsYUF9CQWvngO1MvBwSagJjFhIg9ImFPAUmLOgo9gu1gEVCQe7/3NDjFGV6Lp xltGiDFWEre+PmaBWGUhcXTGK7B6EaDehVPaWEFGSgjIS/RsSgc5U0KgkU3i1p/HrBMYBWch uWgWkosg4toSyxa+Zp4F1M4soCMxeSEjqjCE/fH8EaYFjGyrGIVyEzNzdDPzTPUSCwpyUvWS 83M3MYKCfbqd8A7G06usDjEKcDAq8fAyyCmHCrEmlhVX5h5ilOZgURLnVTusFCokkJ5Ykpqd mlqQWhRfVJqTWnyIkYmDU6qB0bchUkzDb+kF3c3ca4+k6qhnNhR91xSY8fte0pyfaUVJSuIc AvMith1i6jjU9q33cEnajiN2rGs2Bh12uTR1p5pCQ3368a0qs5fecHd9OV/k19fm2Mkb9ri1 +e6w71sn1dtUe3O3zq6TjP/v3NvSzjNTONTnD/+jBMsF28LWZ3R9nb7BIlQuQomlOCPRUIu5 qDgRAEr5rj1XAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrOLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPW1ku5lfpVQg483ZSxeft3EYnHl3mU2 ByaPGZ/ms3i83riQPYApissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSujd84VxoJO7Yqjtw8zNzBOUe1i5OSQEDCR 2HtgNxuELSZx4d56MFtIYCqTxKUjAiA2s0CCRN+iBywgNq+AgcTcU1+YQGxhAT2JhS+eM3Yx cnCwCahJTJjIAxLmFLCUmLPgIyuIzSKgIvF47292iDG6Ek033jJCjLGSuPX1MQvEKguJozNe gdWLAPUunNLGCjJSQkBeomdT+gRGvllIjpiF5AiIuLbEsoWvmWcBdTAL6EhMXsiIKgxhfzx/ hGkBI9sqRoGi1JzEShO9xIKCnFS95PzcTYyg4GwoDN/B+G+Z1SFGAQ5GJR5eBjnlUCHWxLLi ytxDjBIczEoivDdYVUKFeFMSK6tSi/Lji0pzUosPMUpzsCiJ824RVgoVEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2C yTJxcEo1MO7etWpbpUMP18PJ0RrVQYXstsvnPnzamXsgzvo5y2+j9gU5j5Se8rH+/PmtY9ey 0IUmWT6lLRVdLEFaVj3GMwQdjuvk+Go9Sq5lZ2/49pzxaMQi954LVZI/T8R9122zefxuLz9j uHVIwK/Qrj6vOxb3dOxaS1c59Ms+XWHMdLejK+7+vu1xSizFGYmGWsxFxYkANlCapkoCAAA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:10:27 -0000 On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Da Rock = wrote: > In the logs I get 500 errors - "unable to deliver content". > As I mentioned, other mp4 files seem to be fine - they even appear to = be mp42 files as well. So I can't work out what is so different with = these files that aren't. > I've also tried with mod_h264_streaming on (not that it appears to be = working as I would have expected). > Any ideas on how to debug this one? I've tried my whole toolbox I = think... Make sure you've got cache-control and expires headers setup to a = reasonable value for these media files. Make sure that you're vending a valid Content-length, even for queries = using the HEAD method. (Streaming the files correctly in many of the current generation of = browsers requires the content to be locally cacheable, at least for = files bigger than ~1 MB in size.) 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Regards, *Dan Logsdon* HOD-Web Analysis (213) 270-1977 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 06:18:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 821BE555 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 06:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from v-isb-bmail2.ufonegsm.net (mx1.ufonegsm.net [42.83.84.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764FCEE3 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 06:18:12 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: ac100d8a-f79a76d000003085-af-5524c415a5e3 Received: from v-isb-excashub3.ptml.pk (Unknown_Domain [172.16.12.11]) by v-isb-bmail2.ufonegsm.net (Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id A0.0F.12421.514C4255; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:00:53 +0500 (PKT) Received: from P-ISB-EXMBX2.ptml.pk ([172.16.12.4]) by v-isb-excashub3.ptml.pk ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:03:01 +0500 From: Saad Bin Naeem/Information Technology/Islamabad To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: FreeBSD support required Thread-Topic: FreeBSD support required Thread-Index: AdBxvc1VDgn8xUqzQq+iqykcQcdunAAAW6DAAABHCDAAAE7YMA== Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 06:03:00 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.20.11.207] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA11Ua0xTZxjmawsU5IPDAdqXCgpnZDFOEJg/lgwXx9Bo5IeLdmaLizsdR2jo hfS0XMyMiLhBScDgFURuQ2BQxyYMO7nNwg9hLrItKjMyLzi3MdCMuqhUyc6Fwqn/3jzPe573 ed/vaZVy8ukKjVJvsjIWE22gAoIVDiJ2fWLUSII2uelc5FsVoxXyTWjr6bkGxQ70UXBaFmPQ 5zOW9e98Epxz86dqWd5AUuGRQ8X+xWh2jR0FKYHYALO/dAeKtQrGf+8KsKNgJUm4EHjqm+U8 QRLHEQwfX8vXAUQmXBvrFD6IJN6E+mPOAL6OIOLhVudzuYi/DhXTPTKxTocnd0qEHgWRAI9+ vYf4GhPb4dTz6wKOuMFPxxxCv5xQw60HDTLREAEt/dfkYh0Ff08t+It1PDQNXwoU+83QdW8y UNQMh9GaBwqxJxout08ojqKIWolsreSTWsknIr4OGvvmAsT6DWht+kfura/+MCWT4o0osANF 5yfqWV2izkjrDalJtn1mE5PNGpNMjPUCEl4G253oZGOGCxFKRIXgjM4ELelP57NFRhf6Aill lAazu4K1ZITOnFWUQ7M5e1mbzqhnWb3ZREXhlwNcf+gSZ7EZGJaKxC9dHIyXYJ3NkMsJzfPo spCJKWANjJXLCbUKa/6M05JqyRA2T/+p3mxj99osBu6hlXJOdvc5XjaLLtrPWMziMBdaqVRQ apxCk1qSyKatTC7D5DEWL3sSKZVULEZ+fn6kysJkM4X79AZupHQNwP7DnHC4lBY3UeP+yxxD SBlhmVg88g1H+ChK9onHGfw+Gt+BvivJlEEuVIKUIVS0aI9k82gjq8+WWovE+cIpvZRoKwI3 82iIFxUsRePTPLikIrETixcecnZUywOkVsZQFdLE4MKK17RkFN+SYzP5XkijxuO8NiFhBSca Fe7nFw2TELwZTq6Xx6Vyy340cdhh54ZF+wyTWppG52VcHkHMXjj3Z/LKXSKwW7jAIiOehcTf 8uCKRVC4CuBWHvNKSI4Sg4MEi0viUgOp5xH3m3fK4UbdYQRXHlUicFe1IugvcyIoufg4BOZr ToSB88k4CW730Sio6yhTg6fcsQqe9X4VB6VdJzZC2f0jm6G+cXorDM3O7IALP/d+CGcaBj6G oaHybPjLc9YI7tJ2K9Q7J4ugtNNzAJ7N2A/C7RbPQXC1V9cguF0224yg78oLB4KJwdGvOSv/ jnQhqP7SwfmYOVw1gKBr8IYLTfNJki0nyUq/erFIHPaQ4pO0SHmTlMg/e4gXXUzSGh5cUvFJ UipPqZYHSK+mKUbJv20q/q/gg9XlbdSxAveeqKFTaT3zlfeb+wrDNw7rPGx358X09LvbF3a9 3SbbsKe7bbe9ZNKRfP2AXnUmdduWzbb3MxNjLk3Vfd/R1rJOvWVmpfuPiun9n7/3WXNoaGyu 646BCptLv7n6cU+m9ceJlCHyRdrO3quH7n63jd45+O54fKWJUrA5dMpauYWl/wd/qzVNigYA AA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 06:18:15 -0000 Hey We are planning to deploy FreeBSD in our environment and we want support f= or this OS. Our company is one of the top telecom company of Pakistan. We a= lready have the support of different OS like RHEL, Suse Linux, OEL etc. I w= ould appreciate if you can answer the following questions: 1. Do you have any support for FreeBSD in Pakistan? 2. If yes what is the cost? Waiting for your quick response. Regards Saad bin Naeem Ufone Pakistan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 07:14:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C2A1D36 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 07:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4B98771 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 07:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zero-gravitas.local ([192.168.100.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t387E8E8046984 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:14:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t387E8E8046984 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t387E8E8046984; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [192.168.100.4] claimed to be zero-gravitas.local Message-ID: <5524D536.6000709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:13:58 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, naeem.saad@ufone.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD support required References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QSGT90PIqKfmLJWGLM6iahpgRu3hrIdQ1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 07:14:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QSGT90PIqKfmLJWGLM6iahpgRu3hrIdQ1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015/04/08 07:03, Saad Bin Naeem/Information Technology/Islamabad wrot= e: > We are planning to deploy FreeBSD in our environment and we want suppo= rt for this OS. Our company is one of the top telecom company of Pakistan= =2E We already have the support of different OS like RHEL, Suse Linux, OE= L etc. I would appreciate if you can answer the following questions: >=20 > 1. Do you have any support for FreeBSD in Pakistan? >=20 > 2. If yes what is the cost? >=20 > Waiting for your quick response. I'm afraid you're not going to get much joy on this subject from the freebsd-questions@ list. It's a self-help list for a bunch of FreeBSD users, and while there may be people here that run businesses based on FreeBSD most of the readership is in Europe or America. Who knows though? Someone may pop up able to fulfil your requirements. I'd suggest contacting the BSD Pakistan user group via http://bsdpakistan.org/ but that site appears to be in Japanese now... There are lists of vendors and consultants available on the FreeBSD.org site: https://www.freebsd.org/commercial/commercial.html and it may be worth your while enquiring at the FreeBSD Foundation https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ FreeBSD doesn't have an associated commercial support company in the same way that eg. RedHat does for RedHat Linux. There's been some talk about creating such a company, but nothing concrete as yet. You can effectively get support from various independent contractors, or by hiring FreeBSD-savvy administrators, but that may not be of suitable for your purposes. On the other hand, FreeBSD has a very good track record of community support. The chances are that you can get solutions to your problems simply by asking online (and for free), but there are no constraints on how quickly support will be offered, nor is there anyone to sue for compensation in the event of losses due to FreeBSD failures. This is a problem for some corporates, but hasn't stopped some very well known names building their businesses on top of FreeBSD. Cheers, Matthew --QSGT90PIqKfmLJWGLM6iahpgRu3hrIdQ1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVJNU+AAoJEABRPxDgqeTn+4UP/0MzDmfHT2KZAJ1rn6bEXMP4 eZFoSr99xHG5QajvrcxoDOoboliyFZMss4tSmiZTyjCXbmfQ6G/eABNYgH4P2xAp jsnBW4UfjMvf4JESx/1Tmut9+lwo4M+3uuK6I65oSzIV82zUyTMCdB4ZUQfHp+09 7ebkBdClclulFwRiSVtLy76+A6QQFWFyHPp/93Ldj/zqud+CMKFMyWVfEHzzOvwW 6V/KP//a9W3OIl7sCkyccWyvrs3NSjxH//5VKWkqBmgJ/t5bsu/BTpotlad8PRir vX92WmlpmCXmwPKOQgcMRhRelTYgwpGW7VzFnEiyscMi0x/I5nLpm8NE4kjk0Mgy uaRxz0qf6sxkO4xS9iO7dXuFLHl/mSpaui1yT5VcCfdaXeYArZjJukKnjLWPSjaj +5s2kAQ6sGtqDQV1ejvq1JT0Wi3nleXwN5i8tIGEr4B7wZ7oqHvrA4wUJVML4GYd vrqyDi82rVclgcknmVVZ5HAZbZ88GJwXyomqDT3QNntP5PHHez4fCmQ9AxZNmick lTf3NfxxMCCBAKBLya+hq1t3rAOK/MDZg8k4S1FsyGhys6lFCROoM1pq4dJV9fJm jxwfvGtXAo9aU3pnOiLdDDrSDKMFlTAX2xA7Ijqa8qVsB9QAGkv/5PtIkJ4inbZX 0d9mlk7Pm/O0afS6iLEw =eZA4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QSGT90PIqKfmLJWGLM6iahpgRu3hrIdQ1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 08:09:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A0DB674; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEE70CE2; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oblw8 with SMTP id w8so75937796obl.0; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 01:09:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PgnFNYpaRJH+2oh8LDIYoNPnEX6+JLl9EwYz7BbxVlc=; b=l4PT8NvmlaO5EelZF4Sv5MFYRmLBHvGjbcLKIIeirEiO1XIbkwGRrfmM94BtwNV1nT R/BCJ+W/BAIw31tRni1yrEBVqmR/17XizWN3/hiFjwv8p9Z+UwNv+6rcYK0zUuOwVTNz VizcuUqqkqEm0CoDarSO8g6bPSQlohPLON8ecPm5HndeLknivqUSWrB1B30/qJVSUH6P pi/cbJpjqBIG2tyK0GpMB22rARYEG8I9NFRboX8nxa1uraU8yfH39rmvjDbzI7rgSSU8 qIpOFYnHc+zRBtGAO3azMSCiMd2/C2EBIgUhAWQdniDbnbGW0E2gZKhs4j3lT/Lo99FL NGrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.245.70 with SMTP id xm6mr30020822oec.17.1428480549197; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 01:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.76.129 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 01:09:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5524D536.6000709@FreeBSD.org> References: <5524D536.6000709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 13:39:09 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD support required From: Amitabh Kant To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "naeem.saad@ufone.com" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:09:10 -0000 On Wednesday 8 April 2015, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2015/04/08 07:03, Saad Bin Naeem/Information Technology/Islamabad wrote: > > We are planning to deploy FreeBSD in our environment and we want > support for this OS. Our company is one of the top telecom company of > Pakistan. We already have the support of different OS like RHEL, Suse > Linux, OEL etc. I would appreciate if you can answer the following > questions: > > > > 1. Do you have any support for FreeBSD in Pakistan? > > > > 2. If yes what is the cost? > > > > Waiting for your quick response. > > I'm afraid you're not going to get much joy on this subject from the > freebsd-questions@ list. It's a self-help list for a bunch of FreeBSD > users, and while there may be people here that run businesses based on > FreeBSD most of the readership is in Europe or America. Who knows > though? Someone may pop up able to fulfil your requirements. > > I'd suggest contacting the BSD Pakistan user group via > http://bsdpakistan.org/ but that site appears to be in Japanese now... > > There are lists of vendors and consultants available on the FreeBSD.org > site: https://www.freebsd.org/commercial/commercial.html and it may be > worth your while enquiring at the FreeBSD Foundation > https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ > > FreeBSD doesn't have an associated commercial support company in the > same way that eg. RedHat does for RedHat Linux. There's been some talk > about creating such a company, but nothing concrete as yet. > > You can effectively get support from various independent contractors, or > by hiring FreeBSD-savvy administrators, but that may not be of suitable > for your purposes. > > On the other hand, FreeBSD has a very good track record of community > support. The chances are that you can get solutions to your problems > simply by asking online (and for free), but there are no constraints on > how quickly support will be offered, nor is there anyone to sue for > compensation in the event of losses due to FreeBSD failures. This is a > problem for some corporates, but hasn't stopped some very well known > names building their businesses on top of FreeBSD. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > Echoing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 08:12:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA40A762; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22d.google.com (mail-ob0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69519DBC; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbgh1 with SMTP id gh1so120498209obb.1; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 01:12:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cGxntM3UHeHTYqp6/8vOhC7w/wZMfnd4cojCqllo14g=; b=wINoZoH+SFL8YynQs0aYOpzW+A0c1FcuQI9wbIFDhjRmEl0ypoD9Op+1PKJS90azgn aeJ7xC31sWhc3RI64xMyDGqj/E9/i4pvaJ7FH/ME8blZscKjxazDX5/L+x4A4JwndRB0 Uc7RbeIWzjnxec7rO6m/7y02TB8AMREOlC3PyelkduLTcqB3y2t3tSW7Ce90I2TrU7IU 5lv8ejx3KqnuGEDyf5kjaHsDHgFVgzfycamW0UTwFrTfzkBW1YMcI2qwYTX3rYyxURms X8+DjnaZLS8wKi14p5ZqtK3jDnu17z2LlrT9wKMoRuS1bSyp8uRHBw7ETKRrFCR5Q0on vaSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.130.166 with SMTP id of6mr30651456obb.53.1428480764884; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 01:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.76.129 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 01:12:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5524D536.6000709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 13:42:44 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD support required From: Amitabh Kant To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "naeem.saad@ufone.com" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:12:45 -0000 On Wednesday 8 April 2015, Amitabh Kant wrote: > > > On Wednesday 8 April 2015, Matthew Seaman > wrote: > >> On 2015/04/08 07:03, Saad Bin Naeem/Information Technology/Islamabad >> wrote: >> > We are planning to deploy FreeBSD in our environment and we want >> support for this OS. Our company is one of the top telecom company of >> Pakistan. We already have the support of different OS like RHEL, Suse >> Linux, OEL etc. I would appreciate if you can answer the following >> questions: >> > >> > 1. Do you have any support for FreeBSD in Pakistan? >> > >> > 2. If yes what is the cost? >> > >> > Waiting for your quick response. >> >> I'm afraid you're not going to get much joy on this subject from the >> freebsd-questions@ list. It's a self-help list for a bunch of FreeBSD >> users, and while there may be people here that run businesses based on >> FreeBSD most of the readership is in Europe or America. Who knows >> though? Someone may pop up able to fulfil your requirements. >> >> I'd suggest contacting the BSD Pakistan user group via >> http://bsdpakistan.org/ but that site appears to be in Japanese now... >> >> There are lists of vendors and consultants available on the FreeBSD.org >> site: https://www.freebsd.org/commercial/commercial.html and it may be >> worth your while enquiring at the FreeBSD Foundation >> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ >> >> FreeBSD doesn't have an associated commercial support company in the >> same way that eg. RedHat does for RedHat Linux. There's been some talk >> about creating such a company, but nothing concrete as yet. >> >> You can effectively get support from various independent contractors, or >> by hiring FreeBSD-savvy administrators, but that may not be of suitable >> for your purposes. >> >> On the other hand, FreeBSD has a very good track record of community >> support. The chances are that you can get solutions to your problems >> simply by asking online (and for free), but there are no constraints on >> how quickly support will be offered, nor is there anyone to sue for >> compensation in the event of losses due to FreeBSD failures. This is a >> problem for some corporates, but hasn't stopped some very well known >> names building their businesses on top of FreeBSD. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> > > Apologies for the last email. Accidentally hit the sent button .... As for South Asia, it would be difficult to get a company support for FreeBSD. You might get individual consultants though. Amitabh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 09:05:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1329492D; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7AE967C; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so33134467igb.1; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 02:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Zm1kV0DhaUlTZxUMA2XZVgAdLtKbdrzSp/kSULOZ3YQ=; b=Qr8X5xTDhVmDFvCZUvNGzgOrTdNN3Q9E0r5rjUEnj+7xh1B6tIuCXcYlsMitozdYgv SfoPK9txaAY/L6zeaupdUyS/pOCkybUeO1xsZNStnZpgbxjB/rWq4uEUoMiRdUv2EaZt xmS996GJfMKus59CRQtPoaFzOctWaMg95ZP5PNdVGmGO/qKXD847Mrfwo4tH6cfb2gcW C4A8qh1S+0Y/TJinBTsY0Gjl2cT3gDFZ1ykdMdZuBowCSSdgHJNU4fW016vm/6/walv4 5snaCcmVLhdRPoN0xfhY+OY9hTtz1yJyRInq3UB3ZMN+/2u04/tHdY8jPiB4nSGvJuuM mrLQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.56.82 with SMTP id y18mr10342512igp.25.1428483928298; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 02:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.24.141 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 02:05:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5524D536.6000709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 02:05:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD support required From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Amitabh Kant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Matthew Seaman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "naeem.saad@ufone.com" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:05:29 -0000 On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Amitabh Kant wrote: > On Wednesday 8 April 2015, Amitabh Kant wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday 8 April 2015, Matthew Seaman > > wrote: > > > >> On 2015/04/08 07:03, Saad Bin Naeem/Information Technology/Islamabad > >> wrote: > >> > We are planning to deploy FreeBSD in our environment and we want > >> support for this OS. Our company is one of the top telecom company of > >> Pakistan. We already have the support of different OS like RHEL, Suse > >> Linux, OEL etc. I would appreciate if you can answer the following > >> questions: > >> > > >> > 1. Do you have any support for FreeBSD in Pakistan? > >> > > >> > 2. If yes what is the cost? > >> > > >> > Waiting for your quick response. > >> > >> I'm afraid you're not going to get much joy on this subject from the > >> freebsd-questions@ list. It's a self-help list for a bunch of FreeBSD > >> users, and while there may be people here that run businesses based on > >> FreeBSD most of the readership is in Europe or America. Who knows > >> though? Someone may pop up able to fulfil your requirements. > >> > >> I'd suggest contacting the BSD Pakistan user group via > >> http://bsdpakistan.org/ but that site appears to be in Japanese now... > >> > >> There are lists of vendors and consultants available on the FreeBSD.org > >> site: https://www.freebsd.org/commercial/commercial.html and it may be > >> worth your while enquiring at the FreeBSD Foundation > >> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ > >> > >> FreeBSD doesn't have an associated commercial support company in the > >> same way that eg. RedHat does for RedHat Linux. There's been some talk > >> about creating such a company, but nothing concrete as yet. > >> > >> You can effectively get support from various independent contractors, or > >> by hiring FreeBSD-savvy administrators, but that may not be of suitable > >> for your purposes. > >> > >> On the other hand, FreeBSD has a very good track record of community > >> support. The chances are that you can get solutions to your problems > >> simply by asking online (and for free), but there are no constraints on > >> how quickly support will be offered, nor is there anyone to sue for > >> compensation in the event of losses due to FreeBSD failures. This is a > >> problem for some corporates, but hasn't stopped some very well known > >> names building their businesses on top of FreeBSD. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Matthew > >> > >> > > > > > Apologies for the last email. Accidentally hit the sent button .... > > As for South Asia, it would be difficult to get a company support for > FreeBSD. You might get individual consultants though. > > Amitabh > _______________________________________________ > > > In Pakistan , you may ask help from Computer Engineering Departments in Universities . I think , you can find persons there who will be able to help you about FreeBSD usage and it is likely that they can offer to you services based on agreement contracts which satisfies your needs . >From e-mails I know that there are persons working on FreeBSD in Pakistan . Another source may be Unix related associations in your country . Thank you very much . 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[174.109.23.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d70sm3853099yhd.40.2015.04.08.05.04.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Apr 2015 05:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpe-174-109-23-221.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.23.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3lMPR81hxtz3DlWn for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:04:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:04:10 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Path settings Message-ID: <20150408080410.437e58a9@seibercom.net> Reply-To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/ObCr1sVjWR/XPEWizHsQZ2V"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 12:04:23 -0000 --Sig_/ObCr1sVjWR/XPEWizHsQZ2V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have never understood which comes first in the path setting; "/usr/bin" or "/usr/local/bin". The same can be said for "/usr/sbin" and /usr/local/sbin". The reason I am asking is because I have "openssl" installed from ports. If= I have the former path setting and run "which openssl", the system openssl is reported. However, if I switch the path setting to the latter, and rerun the command, the port version of openssl is revealed. I have "WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=3Dyes" in the "/etc/make.conf" file if that makes= any difference. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/ObCr1sVjWR/XPEWizHsQZ2V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVJRk6AAoJEElTsHIJnX8ed6sH/3zeWkY5od8Tl3qdnqLzqH4M Wyoump6VLT6RE4kS+QRgr7h77cFePRys25bZk47QaBislffpqjFrgkWHoRhaVyFn 9Oi52MB7HO+ARU7Ni342+RzkQ6KkTlDNQw3xh+Hkh67Zs5EYMY1zZSB64lTcv9Bt 3fKYy9AkT8Y+ikT+fPUbp+A7y9oAkNquRxlT7zZiPVdB8lIHKwwrX7ZbzNcpmx0T E0gzJvXpJpmKprv6gQten4M5aMruwNVFNZes9TJetzD9V0Wr/k5lKVWurRxwaxAm Fd7SkfY7cOCbLhBhIY5eehYmsdYNfaMJPI0AvXpjCmQCqP4Qzx/8yaktyyltduk= =85vY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ObCr1sVjWR/XPEWizHsQZ2V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 12:14:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32050296 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 12:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECD71D7C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 12:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so36254587igb.1 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 05:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xwCnbi8wXUP2viBaNGxZlpXpgAZgyylKM6iUQdw/y2k=; b=kckYHkshH9OZG4V5aF2e6zgL5UD5Sabphk/2NG3/aN+Lh+E8m06ASYaZjHWuJEdiFv vFlKrfF1MZgFXIer2OCwZ18eEtMyvrMVkfiPDLw8JaGYBAaOBx3z6M79eEZ1tJNYl04O lPEPg1M6kVM9Zc3xV2DAPm7iryY4/vX0r9Prrp8pkVA+YRJJ/rFrifYZgXmoyygttn56 3R/enKcR/+LtsfmLsqPgtAsohvvVjUviSb8oilWC1q9Z5ai1aRh+DT6oLL3d/WAgOyQE z7RiuQN+QVw9GNUS+k2rtl5WEFSMryp7sRefTeHcr+UwwozJSFPUwzNGF7pWPUE98A3G 6WOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.6.84 with SMTP id 81mr16341691iog.52.1428495286385; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 05:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.155.135 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:14:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150408080410.437e58a9@seibercom.net> References: <20150408080410.437e58a9@seibercom.net> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 19:14:46 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wb9zn29LQ2khKsHNO8bvb3IaDqE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Path settings From: Olivier Nicole To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 12:14:47 -0000 Jerry, > I have never understood which comes first in the path setting; "/usr/bin" > or "/usr/local/bin". The same can be said for "/usr/sbin" > and /usr/local/sbin". > > The reason I am asking is because I have "openssl" installed from ports. If I > have the former path setting and run "which openssl", the system openssl is > reported. However, if I switch the path setting to the latter, and rerun the > command, the port version of openssl is revealed. which will try the various path and report the first occurence it finds. So /usr/bin:/usr/local/bin will find openssl in /usr/bin first and /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin will find openssl in /usr/local/bin first. It all depends on what you intend to do. Best regards, Olivier > > I have "WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes" in the "/etc/make.conf" file if that makes any > difference. > > -- > Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 15:43:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E365FFB for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 15:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22f.google.com (mail-qc0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A036BC6 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 15:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qcbii10 with SMTP id ii10so31247818qcb.2 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:43:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eC6QspNreqOu8lJfglxupc2QSQ32Ccsj56fSY+SSMcU=; b=WVt+mVn+QDPjvAL947aNJP/nSDGVETZ1SpmkoNR5Z0VCqAmCMzTufvFTHJW7vvTDxU qCNPbRmlvHRk6dnp/TN5TJTJmbqFgSQc8jtJOmKh7aFjNMg2NBRIzcnUFoKFx7Y4iBPG JwwhTSxl61CoxhI9ztctrFND0+LfuKezj3vL2TW/MDatuYruD9arotYCG9k0EppHTLvG 7JqcTbd5ORdQQoSGeXU9GMj8si2hM1o09yZRHVwnizkz/NMZPsPer9tmox6WE+BtZ14S RQUSHRZysVvGszxBeLux/+mbK9TJmsGMRQBiNXPkK7PZYwEE22HhEnh4J0hCyZBKJ1ke 60aw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.131.79 with SMTP id 76mr32285247qhd.57.1428507836432; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.28.74 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:43:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: question. From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82?= To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:54:24 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:43:57 -0000 Hello What means "root@teleng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC" i was listen, when adding system to my new pc; is this PXE boot? Command "uname -a" FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 16:04:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACC206EF for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 16:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B611E31 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 16:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t38G4WUb097655 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 17:04:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t38G4WUb097655 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t38G4WUb097655; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <55255190.6020303@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 17:04:32 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jFaW3HIlbfDFEvuXqWEPXX5lv8VtPlH7d" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 16:04:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --jFaW3HIlbfDFEvuXqWEPXX5lv8VtPlH7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/08/15 16:43, Micha=C5=82 wrote: > What means >=20 > "root@teleng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC" >=20 > i was listen, when adding system to my new pc; is this PXE boot? >=20 > Command "uname -a" >=20 > FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE amd64 No, this shows who built the kernel, on what machine and where the final kernel config was located. releng1.nyi.freebsd.org is one of the release engineering teams' build servers, so this will appear in the boot messages for the default kernels you get by installing from the official media or by using freebsd-update(8) While you can PXE boot a FreeBSD machine, it takes some effort to set up. The system as installed from the standard install media doesn't have PXE boot capability enabled by default. Cheers, Matthew --jFaW3HIlbfDFEvuXqWEPXX5lv8VtPlH7d Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJVJVGQXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnPaoP/3WPHAILqcbhdcHxDug98hAf Unmz531D1oYGiO+qGwN/iuue1VshrS6KFq3kEecnPrcKiQNP5TjwShbuH0YrB3Ph 6RPw9yiMiTDQRishbGVDmaNdMeveV3TNOZUN5VCGFMbxU7uGzjJDa/X4O+ifP13H 5nh3+Ixo6qlyWOTGBtOY66SQ6BRs69NBwYJvIiwS0vjDumZIQV7v+w1GO6icAZ5m aYq392FQ1aWcseormATE4WHabFvX6Hwfv4UF22QVE5GFaiAicytJOwj7RZ5scmCj E8Y0GSri3+Hnlfcl0cAMA7eFnicuWsSovQngV8syJLomAGEx/guzpsFYvP+Tg7RO uNPtDeGTLz3y6MuhEBrPI35dHAKXUU797dYQ5mU56l5vT+CWL677iHaka4Z4sL6b 0CPxEGBmyNqUlBhD0+zr5W6XeAoc23HV1lM0ZiLgTKwqgDWfi9ZQZqRqN8yY1MMg zZPpPv0cN6FU9j/FrntcpXV/b1Sihiit5CSqVH5/Pd+YXAa6gme/mdObrl2yDkcc YFDhyL90fIng1jYNyFXQTlJ+FgJ6XSNEGgn8Pp1IrQTb8wmGqxIrCfMgcsmpeK9c jl/0s4K1koRket8HC5du5Sp6EoftGzvxGVWiwReYR6MJKxY/54EAN9Q9oyIE4qQK bIZJUgrtYDJzydRMjfS8 =G6YL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jFaW3HIlbfDFEvuXqWEPXX5lv8VtPlH7d-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 16:35:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B0334BB for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 16:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1967C324 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 16:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BCDF3CD71 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:34:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t38GYvpa002083 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:34:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:34:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: Path settings Message-Id: <20150408183457.0f928632.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150408080410.437e58a9@seibercom.net> References: <20150408080410.437e58a9@seibercom.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 16:35:07 -0000 On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:04:10 -0400, Jerry wrote: > I have never understood which comes first in the path setting; "/usr/bin" > or "/usr/local/bin". The same can be said for "/usr/sbin" > and /usr/local/sbin". System-level tools usually have higher priority, and additionally installed software (which resides in /usr/local subtrees per default). Per-user installed software, as well as software not managed by ports or pgk, can be put into ~/bin or /opt/bin, but this typically requires additions to the configuration. > The reason I am asking is because I have "openssl" installed from ports. If I > have the former path setting and run "which openssl", the system openssl is > reported. However, if I switch the path setting to the latter, and rerun the > command, the port version of openssl is revealed. This behaviour is logical and intended. Just imagine someone would install a "ls 'replica'" which would do stupid or nasty things... ;-) The _first_ matching command found by looking at the $PATH entries will be executed. However, it's probably easier to get rid of the system's OpenSSL tools if you're not intending to use them. Keep in mind that certain scripts may redifine $PATH, so what you expect in a user's CLI session might not apply when you run scripts (or when the system runs them). > I have "WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes" in the "/etc/make.conf" file if that makes any > difference. You can define WITHOUT_OPENSSL and maybe WITHOUT_OPENSSH in /etc/src.conf to _not_ have them in the system, and you will have to supply them as ports. ALso check the ports options, it's possible that there's a configuration switch (in "make config") that allows the port to install files to the system-level directories (such as CUPS can do, to replace the system's lp* tools). See "man src.conf" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 18:15:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EC90E75 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x236.google.com (mail-ob0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EEF31E3 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbeb7 with SMTP id eb7so75696658obb.3 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dH9qdVZHLAMiYubpuUYhvbnwfpKVU5B/x/3VfFkDN0o=; b=GbXmMeeQ7K0E32cKCFzumXevmzb+otDKff/5FrGHqomMHd1F7UJLwNpcH5aWne6SG4 62l3vHAopEkI8lNIO0JZYwUN5aucbKItwpzuXsDGwxQEaCZkXKstb1ggdFhtVVvkH8VW FF12fvhY8Segzh/J22X55fKj56x/xSa5M/5gm1l3/i4Be8rrjvflJ88LEygcXlMHuM2H aneEwiC/09ALQV937tggYDzjmIPOQMspIFJqi34du3G5gwO/huq51l2pJn+Q5UtzOr0D 2Ul/V/kvOTKwbb9DwtBcSJ6iqJaYb76sEN4P4RqX0ilds5oKQE0LhUwI3HIRS8/JC/nE /aSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.58.165 with SMTP id s5mr24507068oeq.2.1428516916085; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.93.198 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.93.198 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 23:45:16 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Need a help From: arnab bhowmick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:15:17 -0000 Hello guys i am new to Free BSD. recently I have installed free BSD 10.1 release on my system. I am facing some problems. When I am starting my system and logging in it showing a black screen with some freebsd well come note and a sigil($) sign at the left of the screen and nothing else. No graphical interface. When I am using pkg install command to install something like mate-desktop/ GNOME desktop or some other program it fails to install the package. It is replying that ( pkg: failed to extract pkg-static : can't create '/user/local/sbin/pkg-static' ). What to do next? Please help me. I am very eager to use freebsd as I am like this system very much. Please give me some solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 18:25:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E138C31F for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.modernbiztonsag.org (mail.modernbiztonsag.org [5.9.77.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.modernbiztonsag.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9697F349 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amavis (amavis.jails [10.0.0.30]) by mail.modernbiztonsag.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC730628F1 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 20:19:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= modernbiztonsag.org; h=user-agent:message-id:subject:subject :from:from:date:date:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:mime-version:received:received; s=modernbiztonsag; t=1428517197; bh=D2O6YipPzUePf/SLluclM4QynSpWHAvTOkd3f0BM/ro=; b= dpWYcC8ODQPMuo/riekRPEbvIbDdhuWRm7+T/1+f3P6OWyWcIZKelmaML6H4K3TH 0bAILjN92D8R/90jmXGDzUFDCJHeedD+PRloDtpK/WqEogcpb3I4rkUAsXQuHWXe Abfi/O1vgkJzJ7tjC+N7cF0u8oWXc78hQhJ8a4MJmLQ= Received: from mail.modernbiztonsag.org ([10.0.0.5]) by amavis (amavis.jails [10.0.0.30]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AreM0Je5hk-d for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 20:19:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.duosol.hu (www.jails [10.0.0.4]) by mail.modernbiztonsag.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FF6628EE for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 20:19:57 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:19:57 +0200 From: mailinglist@modernbiztonsag.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-update fetch metadata failed Message-ID: <38de70d19125e6834e691ffea1d4fab2@modernbiztonsag.org> X-Sender: mailinglist@modernbiztonsag.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:25:48 -0000 Hi, I've upgraded my 8.4-RELEASE system to 9.3-RELEASE-p12 a few days ago from source. Now I'm trying to use freebsd-update to fetch the latest 9.3 patches, but it failes: freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. Fetching metadata signature for 9.3-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 2 metadata files... failed. I've used freebsd-update for 8.3 too without any problem. I've cleared the /var/db/freebsd-update directory, but got the same result. Does anyone have any idea what's happening here? Best regards, Mate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 18:36:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D15C578; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail2.jnielsen.net (webmail2.jnielsen.net [50.114.224.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "webmail2.jnielsen.net", Issuer "freebsdsolutions.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 390A8648; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 18:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.1.196] (office.betterlinux.com [199.58.199.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by webmail2.jnielsen.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t38Ia8IG087732 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Apr 2015 12:36:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail2.jnielsen.net: Host office.betterlinux.com [199.58.199.60] claimed to be [10.10.1.196] Subject: Re: I need some solution Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 12:36:08 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5D19A12F-F64D-47E6-85DD-EF8FF472FB98@jnielsen.net> References: To: arnab bhowmick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:36:18 -0000 Redirecting to -questions. Additional comments below. > On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:15 PM, arnab bhowmick = wrote: >=20 > Hello guys i am new to Free BSD. recently I have installed free BSD = 10.1 > release on my system. I am facing some problems. When I am starting my > system and logging in it showing a black screen with some freebsd well = come > note and a sigil($) sign at the left of the screen and nothing else. That is expected. Without a GUI, you get a shell (command line) prompt = after you log in. > No > graphical interface. When I am using pkg install command to install > something like mate-desktop/ GNOME desktop or some other program it = fails > to install the package. It is replying that ( pkg: failed to extract > pkg-static : can't create '/user/local/sbin/pkg-static' ). What to do = next? Are you logged in as the root user or a different user? You typically = need to be root to do package management commands. Please post the exact command you are trying to run and the messages you = get in response. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 20:35:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D00AAEF6 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 20:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 650C066B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 20:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from puffyzz.attlocal.net ([172.15.184.248]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LoaCE-1ZM9G32vmc-00gU7C for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 22:35:12 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 16:34:56 -0400 From: Dutch Ingraham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need a help Message-ID: <20150408203455.GA22853@puffyzz.attlocal.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:i3MZhpjrll5JrMS9XuEHq5Y47xUNmF2qV5mjlqzfRg1ocOEUrU4 CRK8X5axbNJg4QSsbQaLYu4+1yxE4cbcd4JtKfSvz2k3hK5DX5KE9tfu9VrNilar0ZGwk7Y 0IU/2gKmx1M+An0Ri7Zi/ofILptSpsy9EUEVZQ56VBpaUyb+iR7I8lPYanDJxXuStTRq7c2 szaXaVSOmuw4XiP9iDn7A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:35:20 -0000 On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 11:45:16PM +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > Hello guys i am new to Free BSD. recently I have installed free BSD 10.1 > release on my system. I am facing some problems. When I am starting my > system and logging in it showing a black screen with some freebsd well come > note and a sigil($) sign at the left of the screen and nothing else. No > graphical interface. When I am using pkg install command to install > something like mate-desktop/ GNOME desktop or some other program it fails > to install the package. It is replying that ( pkg: failed to extract > pkg-static : can't create '/user/local/sbin/pkg-static' ). What to do next? > Please help me. I am very eager to use freebsd as I am like this system > very much. Please give me some solution. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Have you reviewed Chapter 5 of the Handbook? 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I've been following the guide on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html I have a custom kernel and I don't seem to have anything at /boot/GENERIC # ls /boot/GENERIC ls: /boot/GENERIC: No such file or directory so I followed the instructions when running 9.x and above and ran: # cd /usr/src # make kernel __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null SRCCONF=/dev/null This seem to create and install the GENERIC kernel as advertised, but there still isn't anything in /boot/GENERIC # ls /boot/GENERIC ls: /boot/GENERIC: No such file or directory I then ran: # freebsd-update -r 10.1-RELEASE upgrade # freebsd-update install # nextboot -k GENERIC Error: /boot/GENERIC doesn't exist. Use -f to override. The handbook indicates that it's pretty important to have GENERIC there before I reboot and finish the update. Is there something I missed? Can somebody help with this? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 03:34:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24F63752 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 03:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C350E981 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 03:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65DCD2763C; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 05:33:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t393XwYm004877; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 05:33:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 05:33:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ross Penner Subject: Re: freebsd-update process clarification Message-Id: <20150409053358.0626912e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1428547905.1739013.251060645.6425F6E8@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1428547905.1739013.251060645.6425F6E8@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 03:34:08 -0000 On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 19:51:45 -0700, Ross Penner wrote: > I'm currently running 10.0 and I wanted to update to 10.1 using > freebsd-update. I've been following the guide on > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > > I have a custom kernel and I don't seem to have anything at > /boot/GENERIC > # ls /boot/GENERIC > ls: /boot/GENERIC: No such file or directory This is to be expected: A custom kernel will be installed as /boot/kernel/kernel by default. > so I followed the instructions when running 9.x and above and ran: > # cd /usr/src > # make kernel __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null SRCCONF=/dev/null > > This seem to create and install the GENERIC kernel as advertised, but > there still isn't anything in /boot/GENERIC > # ls /boot/GENERIC > ls: /boot/GENERIC: No such file or directory Correct. The GENERIC kernel will also be installed as /boot/kernel/kernel. > I then ran: > # freebsd-update -r 10.1-RELEASE upgrade > # freebsd-update install > # nextboot -k GENERIC > Error: /boot/GENERIC doesn't exist. Use -f to override. > > The handbook indicates that it's pretty important to have GENERIC there > before I reboot and finish the update. > > Is there something I missed? Can somebody help with this? Allow me to quote from the handbook page you mentioned, from 24.2.2.: Only the GENERIC kernel can be automatically updated by freebsd-update. If a custom kernel is installed, it will have to be rebuilt and reinstalled after freebsd-update finishes installing the updates. However, freebsd-update will detect and update the GENERIC kernel if /boot/GENERIC exists, even if it is not the current running kernel of the system. Note: Always keep a copy of the GENERIC kernel in /boot/GENERIC. It will be helpful in diagnosing a variety of problems and in performing version upgrades. Refer to either Section 24.2.3.1, "Custom Kernels with FreeBSD 9.X and Later" or Section 24.2.3.2, "Custom Kernels with FreeBSD 8.X" for instructions on how to get a copy of the GENERIC kernel. * end quote * So you have to copy /boot/kernel/kernel (the GENERIC kernel) to /boot/GENERIC. Also have a look at the options for _which_ kernel to boot, to be set in /boot/loader.conf: kernel="kernel" # /boot sub-directory containing kernel and modules bootfile="kernel" # Kernel name (possibly absolute path) This allows you to have more than one kernel installed on your system (e. g., the stock GENERIC kernel, and your own custom kernel) at the same time, and letting the boot loader decide which one to boot. As you have read from the handbook, freebsd-update will not be able to update your custom kernel. So after the freebsd-update run (which will give you the GENERIC kernel or leave the old custom kernel in place), you will have to run your kernel building and installation process ("make kernel") manually, _then_ reboot. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 04:11:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5C18DF5 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 04:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (smtp3.hushmail.com [65.39.178.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BE55DA7 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 04:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AC564E01E3 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 03:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w6.hushmail.com [65.39.178.92]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 03:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 7D7C720395; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 03:41:21 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 03:41:21 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity From: opendaddy@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 04:11:31 -0000 Hi! I'm running this Rails app on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD droplet. Lately I've been experiencing extremely slow initial requests after longer periods of inactivity. Subsequent requests are fine. At first I thought it was my PostgreSQL database or the Rails app itself, but now I doubt that's the case as I just realized SSH connections made simultaneously with those initial requests are equally slow. Has anybody ever encountered anything similar? Thanks! O.D. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 05:21:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D413986 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 05:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x236.google.com (mail-pa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A4C43C5 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 05:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pacyx8 with SMTP id yx8so137739618pac.1 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 22:21:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=PE52AxQxYOB9l+Yj9V4To0LygFllY4yoVw6c63lnWOU=; b=I0XYAARhU4/dYztpjo0gPsuZymVS+nPBZeZqAA8Bjv/hm6GzDywTE3QpYdSVZCBPLq 66Z+CNJX+Akn5Onz0UsbzsRu7SFv79Nv8G1qT+UpUCPtEr+rUASMk1R7l23WF6n+RJub IW8czYaSItayGzzgvThoC7s6N0Y5wmCWmKCAiSFNXG6EAyD5hzD9p5CW62xXEAShzfQM 3qncmSSNqbbsbof9ux86Witv8QV2ILHTOmFCqQvZf7CwNEFpQMYkkKXmHQwkJN7r3tr0 UV+3w09nCVFytNkmfVOO/R6wLwS25gQM1B1aFXONzaEKzGaKiai1/aylGXTvlOmGaHrC I/7g== X-Received: by 10.66.118.136 with SMTP id km8mr52436250pab.43.1428556902770; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 22:21:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.82.33 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 22:21:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> From: Michael Schuster Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 07:21:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity To: opendaddy@hushmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 05:21:43 -0000 Hi, at first glance, this sounds a bit like a paging/swapping issue - are other things active on that machine? regards Michael On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:41 AM, wrote: > Hi! > > I'm running this Rails app on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD droplet. Lately I've > been experiencing extremely slow initial requests after longer periods of > inactivity. Subsequent requests are fine. > > At first I thought it was my PostgreSQL database or the Rails app itself, > but now I doubt that's the case as I just realized SSH connections made > simultaneously with those initial requests are equally slow. > > Has anybody ever encountered anything similar? > > Thanks! > > O.D. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 06:24:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E339746 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 06:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF061CAB for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 06:24:29 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.5 (ClamAV engine v0.98.5) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:551c:565:7b67:a519] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 640240 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 06:24:21 +0000 Message-ID: <55261B15.7040102@radel.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 02:24:21 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070601050902030409050001" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 06:24:30 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070601050902030409050001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/8/15 11:41 PM, opendaddy@hushmail.com wrote: > Hi! > > I'm running this Rails app on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD droplet. 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It seems that the FreeBSD kernel is the perfect candidate for that. According to the architecture handbook(*), "FreeBSD could theoretically handle memory configurations up to 8TB on a 32 bit platform." For the last two days, I was looking for documentation, articles, thesis, or e-mails on that topic, but I can't find relevant informations. Is anybody have informations on that topic ? Where should I start to read the source code to find my answers ? Thank you in advance. (*) https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/arch-handbook/vm-kvm.html - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre-Yves Péneau (#3361856) | SoC - LIP6 - UPMC | | Couloir 24-25 Bureau 417 | first.last@lip6.fr | | 4 place Jussieu 75252 Paris Cedex 05 | +33 1 44 27 54 15 | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVJkCOAAoJEPy7VC2L9m/AkHEQAKEf+oqFMhZtDzh9OFf+maUg BrDpEklOpBpFqvx6yBoxAfJz34tsPbXcNSqWaKbkHgerVTSLX366PYWzMp/GfcLw 0Vr6+gUoQGeL1EY4kUt+sOJxBKo/AYD5Dmi6N6hn23Kxf3+zPgl0XgfNCs5iDxUf nyxOkPR5LZKk2o+k/tswdZ4CApdUPFYpsHJjflHPx9Q3hGr2jseihm4VO0HGgziF WobH4uPpdZ1VUVhJXHEew9RGst2OtstXJVBAf6xaT6SPOp2I2G0J7YJjLlx2Nbv6 z8BoT2rGT247XH/cDMQNnlLbNkE+/TbpI2MBUgcRFHcKFEy2CvP2vWPJY+u7vNzH fek5d5Ph+zm3lhV/hHAnirans2tjOhcXy8ZGxCyj0Dyz4Tq8Y8P/F7PY7hlDICrO E8hEWo6l9ocOEekQL97PgUrDfmEnAeJw3ADFHjyJm/r/sEpFYu0zHys+0jgT/C+q ysn4V4NQVX6ozeAgLavFzVJ9srUIVjv42u84Rz2K91fmeDFhRpSE2duAkK+ctCV3 R0OgBaoIlG4uMr50esW6NcwUcillVI1sBn5o1/8KF8f2tje49clY8LwzIPbXGrpG goQ65tC8AnaiQEtdU1bN3vDtT0zpkgg1OGR0uqonv7qic1e9I5I7Xco2k2iyOIEb 60s22yJUkdY1lAxi51SB =W/ka -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 09:40:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8DC7531 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm28-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A009C82A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:40:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1428572455; bh=aObGoKpSUsH1ae/ck0Xc5OBLg4hT4/PYXt+t3LTeSII=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=O/eIcbQPly1L+srM6oZT1/HwcbLpXkjzYX/PuQ1lJAH7E/25qwJboJVSxhyQlG7QiiGrpsoQkrmqcl7bU5wyr1GplXZJjgXIewTASA77sj2V8ZA2fmyatNwC/fcmRnyF3galxvq69YZ0ErdosssPhfVqTQ0e2107kjFB8C+1d6xgL+2vv/gQvH3715gedT+RHG+oYEfym2IwbKhsJ53xQH3qG/AXLdVw7dS3SNOUDMXZDkBOFP9iFCbn5SwpkPQZuRUfocKNLT/iq/oo1dy8rUADFqq09c5YWrur5kHKtGpGx4+6VQzaIJDh22WYKOT6GGWTW/FL9ZF38bjXfkBOzg== Received: from [98.137.12.57] by nm28.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2015 09:40:55 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.77] by tm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2015 09:40:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2015 09:40:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 65426.99920.bm@smtp114.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: qVBbT9YVM1mot8UFrRWOHFUS2a1I6WyfGuKtz43mforUsIF oxVxwL5eIg59qKxhX3NSG.vSBRrknhKjTKoPl8qRw8bWE6ACXwRxe.dEmf2K _Ow7XQav.4n8GrbMcd_sbJva4AmKFr0cHOsR1IALJly5WljKu4n.FJ5JMFTx vkNqpt0aS43bnRoTUNY3Erc7VF6tc4zR22Qnw1XL0mVYCC54UgDrXMlyuyjt yhZAdBk4uASg4eu03SFfxB3sQ89rWlviSmFcZGGUIPnGseDtsBBmM7cKFm7W RORDv5rqScEY793eqx9lHgtSgw..adiPmerkd2Oq7O95helJePCWNbdWfRah DAfn8FzP73l6J20EusLvH2b4o7a4WkFDIJxy_VxazgKnwgxJM4bj.2ioE9Q1 7myzmBu3iFjcpRGdBgR7TC1lzJg1.JokzH4GJpdexXuBFAWc1EFC6uikgrC9 YAwCTLfzJ06DSm4M8QTx1blLRgAHYipyArZtfJBEyBCL5WitcMJtWpuLhnw- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:49:41 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture Message-Id: <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Pierre-Yves.Peneau@lip6.fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:40:56 -0000 On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:04:15 +0200 Pierre-Yves P=E9neau wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > For my internship, I have to find a way to manage more than 4GB of > memory with 32 bits processors. It seems that the FreeBSD kernel is > the perfect candidate for that. According to the architecture handbook > (*), "FreeBSD could theoretically handle memory configurations up to > 8TB on a 32 bit platform." >=20 > For the last two days, I was looking for documentation, articles, > thesis, or e-mails on that topic, but I can't find relevant > informations. Is anybody have informations on that topic ? Where > should I start to read the source code to find my answers ? You are looking for PAE. Check https://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/hardware.html#idp56343376 as starting= point. > Thank you in advance. >=20 >=20 > (*) https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/arch-handbook/vm-kvm.html --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 09:52:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 905A8916 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm15-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DEBF9F4 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:52:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1428572950; bh=khhrjwuxshMfbfTiLGkysVWUESLzrQfL2a/Kof/dfww=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=tzcAAth1ZrVv4ylHdTbNBGi+XTyDKNaswVkNEEJX4+HCa8XhC1vSyGHMfbLzdYFT/3jpPJDaz8vbLlrw8gt9uiAKbLEzkQf8+3pDxw/1ji0EzTmEGlZLwcNGi0Qznj3HmPGY5Szai8dl/4y6Xd7X6okh1+MYfCGitH6fxfQDNzYjOjQWRl824PYPdlCZwfM9KwXtXALns87kDlEqjC8i8/q96/W2sxUnBXAD0+fitNVHzxXk/8UtUnfT9cSIOQ7waUEwIJ8/DQ/jC2mV2PVrLyRcnGQNUbNQfpnR3e74pwM7+Vr8EHBaAc/DgWbr5IvXWRk+nOlL6Fnad7UPgBO/qg== Received: from [98.138.100.112] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2015 09:49:10 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.111] by tm103.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2015 09:49:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp148.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2015 09:49:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 952097.65413.bm@smtp148.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 9rIQ9PgVM1kZdYd1_jp.0bNQGmFM_7UQX1jdENlAv5L53aH SjsR0JPWVkpvMu.Hh1NPX3ah12fPsjbEnh6Np7ED4pIoP.1SiCpC140Fh4Dk OgDGHQ59VRXfAaHnqlBt8XCEWfTljtpkMUX72KyY5p2r6Z3WgoQimyYCW1fx RwJDW003q0rpC48QIgIU8cZU0zWLWtFQJk51DUbErCEHd3YZwJ146bmJQlnT jbkTzTJscpjkR24QYk.xzWg.Q5eQh9WPT3txc_YPdx0PooS7d9RdI2ZfuILE SNmfD3V4zyxbEYSaYdW4qVE1eoW5ATodLoEKR_UKu7iBOtFLtZNJT.8GGLJy 3eCArYa2o.0dV32EzMj4Kk8oXTSk01EX9E9VJJJaLngENjX34KF9V5BeN6lG 47GqKzEtHdTht7m16Uk9GZWnV4Z_kLsCxf4yApmJJEplEv3tsA.4eH_0h5Cg ruSIDQLN8XCljeB0mcKIeiMpjdiRqfToNBWuTXvKk5QTlC7fhX80PeFj3ldp STjx0Jdug8V9Ybye4Tvd7_d0ABkk1Gxm8n.QvTzRsmRu9D.sV.bEGQAuLDI_ ynjm23p1BXBSptA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:49:06 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture Message-ID: <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1-79-gde6f188 (GTK+ 2.24.27; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:52:23 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:49:41 +0200, Eduardo Morras wrote: >You are looking for PAE. Hi, PAE does not support up to 8TB as the OP mentions. PAE is limited to 64 GiB. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 10:00:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DB4CE5B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 10:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.lip6.fr (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDE6B3A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 10:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asim.lip6.fr (asim.lip6.fr [132.227.86.2]) by isis.lip6.fr (8.15.1/lip6) with ESMTP id t39A0YhH024044 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 12:00:35 +0200 (CEST) X-pt: isis.lip6.fr Received: from [0.0.0.0] (tor27.anonymizer.ccc.de [77.244.254.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by asim.lip6.fr (8.15.1/8.14.4) with ESMTPSA id t39A0Thr024131 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 12:00:33 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:00:37 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=E9neau?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]); Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:00:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 on 132.227.60.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:00:37 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 04/09/2015 11:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:49:41 +0200, Eduardo Morras wrote: >> You are looking for PAE. > > Hi, > > PAE does not support up to 8TB as the OP mentions. PAE is limited > to 64 GiB. > > Regards, Ralf _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Sorry, I forgot something important. My physical memory is 1TB, and as Ralf said, PAE is limited to 64GB (36 bits). 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[174.109.23.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 62sm11407847yhq.22.2015.04.09.04.21.41 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Apr 2015 04:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpe-174-109-23-221.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.23.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3lN0RS6YFwz3Dljg for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 07:21:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 07:21:34 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Freebsd-update Message-ID: <20150409072134.046b96c1@seibercom.net> Reply-To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/aCFan2Sts+89KJBVLz1ENUR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:21:43 -0000 --Sig_/aCFan2Sts+89KJBVLz1ENUR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, i just ran "freebsd-update" and the system is now freebsd 10.1 P9. The problem is that KDE, when I started it, it lost its initial window with all the icons, etcetera that I had created. I have no idea why. I also cannot figure out how to get that screen back again. Nothing else was lost and I c= an recreate the screen; however, I really don't want to. I had several custom shortcuts and now I cannot remember what they all were. Is there anyway to get the screen I created back or is it gone for good? --=20 Jerry --Sig_/aCFan2Sts+89KJBVLz1ENUR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVJmC+AAoJEElTsHIJnX8e/VAIAJbz9gnTkA9jsL1clSRudwAN Rvk340sKjHESmZ+ZTdspRuV2MS4zqf4VEImCcDRavRC/GySCGrZh2ljIkwOzYDWs VyUalC2HfKtPrJ7NifKbdbjiLXNqmJcbjemr4Rd1qXzjQmkvmvgNX1Z3RIeR4uqS BrwmTLzwGDbQr0hZXrGPQDGXB4lkk1RMX6d1jScv7USv/0m9bBM3Eapij5VbFVZf QjzoNK4TE35Ym0SO12K9cjfpPthp5AiSxpGEZgShdG2kuaL1BW0UUqX1obaS1CCM VtKB1F6Yp4Qu593jeqDgvPHAS0ua8IOA4yFWQ6ZQtZlMTEv6SSc5VEQEArFThzc= =rpWo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/aCFan2Sts+89KJBVLz1ENUR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 11:50:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 131E6941 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (smtp1.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA95EA5F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CD99401DC for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w7.hushmail.com [65.39.178.32]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 450C7401E3; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:50:33 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:50:33 +0000 To: "Jon Radel" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, terje@elde.net Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity From: opendaddy@hushmail.com In-Reply-To: <55261B15.7040102@radel.com> References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> <55261B15.7040102@radel.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150409115033.450C7401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:50:36 -0000 On 9. april 2015 at 6:23 AM, "Jon Radel" wrote: > >Something has gone semi-wrong with DNS and it works quickly when >in a local cache and takes a long time to fetch when expired from the >cache? >Assuming you're using names for the connections..... Yep, using names. I recently fixed my reverse DNS but to no avail. I'm using NSD: # cat nsd.conf server: ip4-only: yes hide-version: yes logfile: "/var/log/nsd.log" zone: name: "mydomain.com" zonefile: "/usr/local/etc/nsd/mydomain.com" notify: $FRIENDS_IP NOKEY provide-xfr: $FRIENDS_IP NOKEY # cat mydomain.com $ORIGIN mydomain.com. $TTL 3m @ IN SOA ns.mydomain.com. od.mydomain.com. ( 2013070501 1h 15m 1w 3m ) @ NS ns.mydomain.com. @ NS ns.friendsdomain.com. @ MX 10 mail.mydomain.com. @ A $MY_IP ns IN A $MY_IP mail IN A $MY_IP somename IN A $MY_IP www IN CNAME mydomain.com. Thanks! O.D. cc Terje Elde > >--Jon Radel >jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 12:17:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB08268F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 12:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (smtp1.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD348DF1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 12:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ED22540160 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w7.hushmail.com [65.39.178.32]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id B714D401E3; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:39:55 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:39:55 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity From: opendaddy@hushmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150409113955.B714D401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:17:17 -0000 Hello! On 9. april 2015 at 5:20 AM, "Michael Schuster" wrote: > >Hi, > >at first glance, this sounds a bit like a paging/swapping issue - >are other things active on that machine? Not really, no. I have 2GB memory (350MB in use) and 3GB swap (600MB in use). Thanks! O.D. >regards >Michael > >On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:41 AM, wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I'm running this Rails app on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD droplet. >Lately I've >> been experiencing extremely slow initial requests after longer >periods of >> inactivity. Subsequent requests are fine. >> >> At first I thought it was my PostgreSQL database or the Rails >app itself, >> but now I doubt that's the case as I just realized SSH >connections made >> simultaneously with those initial requests are equally slow. >> >> Has anybody ever encountered anything similar? >> >> Thanks! >> >> O.D. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > >-- >Michael Schuster >http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 13:11:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DF09A16 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA6C691 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t39DAxPA004764; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 14:10:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:10:59 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?UGllcnJlLVl2ZXMgUMOpbmVhdQ==?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> In-Reply-To: <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:11:08 -0000 On 09/04/2015 11:00, Pierre-Yves Péneau wrote: > > On 04/09/2015 11:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:49:41 +0200, Eduardo Morras wrote: >>> You are looking for PAE. >> >> Hi, >> >> PAE does not support up to 8TB as the OP mentions. PAE is limited >> to 64 GiB. >> >> > > Sorry, I forgot something important. My physical memory is 1TB, and as > Ralf said, PAE is limited to 64GB (36 bits). I'm looking for a 40 bits > support (at least). I've just realised the original post said > According to the architecture handbook(*), "FreeBSD could > theoretically handle memory configurations up to 8TB on a 32 bit > platform." Having followed the link, I find that's a partial quote, and the full one was "In fact, if the mmu were capable of it, FreeBSD could theoretically handle memory configurations up to 8TB on a 32 bit platform. However, since most 32 bit platforms are only capable of mapping 4GB of ram, this is a moot point." I.e. it was talking about the software architecture of the kernel virtual memory manager on 32 bit processors, not the hardware. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 13:17:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D4DBBAE for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355877CF for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9DD7C33C24; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Pierre-Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9neau?= Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:16:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> ("Pierre-Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9neau=22's?= message of "Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:04:15 +0200") Message-ID: <44k2xlcugl.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:17:06 -0000 Pierre-Yves P=E9neau writes: > For my internship, I have to find a way to manage more than 4GB of > memory with 32 bits processors. It seems that the FreeBSD kernel is the > perfect candidate for that. According to the architecture handbook(*), > "FreeBSD could theoretically handle memory configurations up to 8TB on a > 32 bit platform." This is quoting the Architecture Handbook's KVM memory mapping section. The following sentence reads "However, since most 32 bit platforms are only capable of mapping 4GB of ram, this is a moot point." > For the last two days, I was looking for documentation, articles, > thesis, or e-mails on that topic, but I can't find relevant > informations. Is anybody have informations on that topic ? Where should > I start to read the source code to find my answers ? I'm going to guess that the idea behind that comment is that FreeBSD's page tables can hold 2G (2^31) entries. At a 4k page size, that would give you 8TB of memory. But that only helps you if the hardware is physically capable of reading from more than 4G different locations. Therefore, the question becomes: what kind of hardware are you going to use that can keep track of those locations? As a side note, I would also recommend the book "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System," now out in a new edition. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 15:04:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7739DFB5 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.lip6.fr (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AE5690 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asim.lip6.fr (asim.lip6.fr [132.227.86.2]) by isis.lip6.fr (8.15.1/lip6) with ESMTP id t39F4drj007641 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:04:39 +0200 (CEST) X-pt: isis.lip6.fr Received: from [0.0.0.0] (chomsky.torservers.net [77.247.181.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by asim.lip6.fr (8.15.1/8.14.4) with ESMTPSA id t39F4ZI6026956 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:04:38 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:04:41 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGllcnJlLVl2ZXMgUMOpbmVhdQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080208030909080407060603" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]); Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:04:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 on 132.227.60.2 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:04:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080208030909080407060603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 04/09/2015 03:10 PM, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 09/04/2015 11:00, Pierre-Yves Péneau wrote: >> >> On 04/09/2015 11:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:49:41 +0200, Eduardo Morras wrote: >>>> You are looking for PAE. >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> PAE does not support up to 8TB as the OP mentions. PAE is >>> limited to 64 GiB. >>> >>> >> >> Sorry, I forgot something important. My physical memory is 1TB, >> and as Ralf said, PAE is limited to 64GB (36 bits). I'm looking >> for a 40 bits support (at least). > > I've just realised the original post said > >> According to the architecture handbook(*), "FreeBSD could >> theoretically handle memory configurations up to 8TB on a 32 bit >> platform." > > Having followed the link, I find that's a partial quote, and the > full one was > > "In fact, if the mmu were capable of it, FreeBSD could > theoretically handle memory configurations up to 8TB on a 32 bit > platform. However, since most 32 bit platforms are only capable of > mapping 4GB of ram, this is a moot point." > > I.e. it was talking about the software architecture of the kernel > virtual memory manager on 32 bit processors, not the hardware. > > I think everybody has been assuming an Intel architecture, but a 32 > bit Intel processor can't address 1TB as PAE is specifically > defined as having a 36 bit (64GB) address bus. If your CPU is 32 > bits with 1TB of memory addressable, what on earth is it? I did not want give too much details in my first email to avoid confusion, but this is exactly what I bring.. So let's be more clear :-) I'm working on an European project called TSAR(*). This project aims to create a TeraScale ARchitecture with low consumption. That's why 32 bits processors were chosen. Our architecture is cc-NUMA. We have 256 clusters (maximum). Each cluster contains 4 processors and have 4GB of RAM. MMUs can translate 32 bits virtual addresses into 40 bits physical addresses using two coordinates, which are used to identify each cluster. These coordinates are on 4 bits, each. So, a physical address is build like this: | X coord(4 bits) | Y coord (4 bits) | Vaddr (32 bits) | That's how we obtain 40 bits of addressable space, and why we have 1TB of physical memory. So, I've the required hardware I think. My problem is to find out how FreeBSD can use this mechanisms. But I'm realizing that it may be not a kernel issue, because it's an hardware functionality which should works with Linux too. Right ? (*) Maybe it's more clear than my explanations: https://www-asim.lip6.fr/trac/tsar/wiki - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre-Yves Péneau (#3361856) | SoC - LIP6 - UPMC | | Couloir 24-25 Bureau 417 | first.last@lip6.fr | | 4 place Jussieu 75252 Paris Cedex 05 | +33 1 44 27 54 15 | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVJpTzAAoJEPy7VC2L9m/AYecQALUYUNEx5UlF2b7LleDqbgn6 Nyr7O70u0DUMnjBZqIucbT2r57B0qQgQ5wcpUHD4Knu+dikbtgBk1/r7bD0hJA4X Wa57C8jyrFAxFIlTNXRXbXAnsxD2pPQl1i8rwT2L3mbGEQWm95fUkUddfh4eovE4 tSshg1FAdHHwx7IwJtJCH71OeLzLIadgwb7cIygsTzIMN+eVY0BVYn7Jcbu5Uv2f GV+btokwOjjCfwG9aCEFkAHkiGc3+Q8xV22Fb7r/VM3Qfv2XhG7qoLFNvnaJ+UYG PwYoeWsxHIQ7ZcHyuZ9K0cyXLNnyHoSHLDdv1we1j7V/7I0722lUO3SxioRcw7ZY PMYtnwK8lIkP94kOzFkU/IeCn1b1ywcO2gsGTnmaR0sPtW1JdwBzKT5wggl+Yo84 U/rvOsx1S1/jE35SRQyKGLe2RvzYpgaBxfxfgjZrqZrr6Lt6gY1FpWPNKeJ67P2g lArtHMnEeTTcN47LAbxNzk8464cdH6/Kq6uMfbCILY+CPvco3HQ+o0wWujEBfLVH zF9VZTEAu08BEGaq4D7w53V62oiRbGPrI5NOdSsJjaewSW2+CXF+txG0B2r+nkzd N0JHYWNgQTpME8o9ec/z+q27GTruyKqPHa2uXyjzembchBUeZd6zr25o9ThqIKHb wieu4TyWvOtNR2wMWG/r =hz/g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------080208030909080407060603 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="0x8BF66FC0.asc.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0x8BF66FC0.asc.sig" iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVJpTzAAoJEPy7VC2L9m/AKwkP/2LUAsbjluvpGtFt25VDePYSuhz4jEB3 emBV83k9bUK5xurpvRHJhhNzWccMZlpRRnd3OnfGuKCMzu/HvwVXh4m82ESn/lmebr5LfyYp H7fJJ0hzc+r7fdM494Psf+ZJE/XPZczXkXlbBIipAR3eLja8/J05VQ9FBAlwoNmGFIUHeVCm iXBttFqODFE3WMD9qdJxaN+fDgTBtiFDSBJDkWRgTfmhi7ZCU7KiFaYBRRqpY5g6yKmyPcSs fGGVzRIZ8cXUn2WalMvDRIBwU4pD0+XLn8YeH2um3vOPNj7g1ugdbyfGH6OfZWo6XJWWIFit 8Yhh8C0chsxW4TiPs1WDQvQdBwEPXMCZ7IicbYGac5a/yazdz3bAYprl7Iv+HHjOJ2GTc/ZF bNjBBv4CyAGRhaymtgMYeyQ3mm39m3mq+0T+Q+JTa+aJ5Uz2XDvwBhm1wWnDUa1MDF2YUTaI 7Q8b2BtUJk2MaGLs4xX+436HUDhzbqLZ27W3WR9UkDr/KYXqs+yvdS7Fgsy59g6m0Q8c3NUx 1VHEuOpDMNHFb5FCYVAXNbZ4zVtMGBc22LMJpUz18wvy2SdAT/xV2OQjPrnTzlvkU0Syenog ksrVOWlcGCZfTgnZI20uHzwmd+HsD7F+sQ+L4dr5IdYOM2VPcIDPmWkCj02PqfmdjYhZ2TyD ubHm --------------080208030909080407060603-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:04:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA791F93 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 341E2E69 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t39G41ju005118 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:04:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5526A2F1.5030609@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:04:01 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: NTP peering broken since recent security update? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:04:05 -0000 I have three NTP servers on my internal networks. Each of them uses various external machines as servers but they also peer with the other two internal ones to give some resilience in case the outside world goes away. Since the update and restart associated with FreeBSD-SA-15:07.ntp the ntpd processes appear to be unable to see peers (reach = 0) although they're locking onto the servers quite happily. Anyone else seeing this? -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:19:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13D2B739 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1D4CFE8 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igblo3 with SMTP id lo3so69040819igb.0 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=O/8TbZ4w5kSeKvoTD4jligOxVnShXwy6tBOHc4CaenY=; b=xLOdU4Z1+bRpqgsKF10QhVi0qpDHIQz43GmkONSDXDI0+Vvssuu16YxuMyKx6UnVM4 JnKlaVaQ1fijQ0TOHTnAbF38cpQwDOqFuBHT9Ysf0cKn2GnAAUsW2c1FxjS+nQ2wyUKL uLiKuqPB0gHz79MHj2zbBnzq0Oi/brUEzt15Ca42SuyNJumaqBhyQLLhDWqiqEGR7Nwd CKPfBCjZejTWlCxlJVq4JSc50gT4S3zuu6g304y1zewUYicvcL8gGbVC5ynrCOlylYSr l6j87GPiGxJCLHwLn/o6l2A2tCvLmqyIW1twTc0sKCkMMUi4bh7p0S2UhyCQq9nZrcRu QFfQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.39.72 with SMTP id n69mr47374624ion.8.1428596385146; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.17.194 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 09:19:43 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: huEJm2RvlvIDsuTD8ZuG0nBwJV0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture From: Adrian Chadd To: =?UTF-8?Q?Pierre=2DYves_P=C3=A9neau?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:19:46 -0000 Hi! This sounds... very exciting. I'd start by taking a look at how PAE works - you may be able to reuse all those pieces and just implement more than the 4 bits of physical address space. The interesting bits of PAE aren't just the extension of the physical addresses, but all the management of mapping things into virtual address space as required. I haven't looked at the MIPS side of things though. IIRC, on MIPS32 we only implement up to what the direct map KSEG supports, so a little PAE ish work would be required there to make things work right. So, I'd start by looking at how PAE on i386 works. I think there's a little bit of KVA exhaustion going on in -HEAD with i386 PAE that can be fixed with a little bit of attention. The rest of the basic PAE stuff should still work fine. Then if you need it for MIPS, you'll need to sketch out how you expect PAE to work on MIPS, and then make up a project for that. :) -adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 16:58:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CADD7A5; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60F4768; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 16:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 4C476CB8C8E; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <55353.128.135.70.2.1428598688.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:58:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Adrian Chadd" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Pierre-Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=C3=A9neau?= , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:58:15 -0000 On Thu, April 9, 2015 11:19 am, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi! > > This sounds... very exciting. I'd start by taking a look at how PAE > works - you may be able to reuse all those pieces and just implement > more than the 4 bits of physical address space. The interesting bits > of PAE aren't just the extension of the physical addresses, but all > the management of mapping things into virtual address space as > required. The only problem with all these exercises is: on 32 bit CPU box a single process still can only have 4GB of address space (according to my definitely not deep enough knowledge of kernel)... Just my $0.02. Valeri > > I haven't looked at the MIPS side of things though. IIRC, on MIPS32 we > only implement up to what the direct map KSEG supports, so a little > PAE ish work would be required there to make things work right. > > So, I'd start by looking at how PAE on i386 works. I think there's a > little bit of KVA exhaustion going on in -HEAD with i386 PAE that can > be fixed with a little bit of attention. The rest of the basic PAE > stuff should still work fine. Then if you need it for MIPS, you'll > need to sketch out how you expect PAE to work on MIPS, and then make > up a project for that. :) > > > > -adrian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 17:24:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 272B0E5 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA174A91 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igblo3 with SMTP id lo3so72684919igb.1 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:24:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bOvTIzpCD1HZJrPaYBatWiG0tIvQzj6Pq5g9vRHDijs=; b=GPFwPNxZ5LDwRRv6Wzh2U6nNbSOxFfJljh6GPLnwGNndri8Z0Y/B4xalgyaDIu51hv L6ypiBp3blzj9Y74vJSxuceak93Rc8gZYqbU8MBRxPuoP/6ijL8KDWvUJKeaMYqZAuoZ 3dyJjZaZd3pTqdUGNiuwr0MTy7zCgD2bbZFlh7nPqaihcr98ilnLROgrmIHdj+SA+OFF sappFdpyC4XD5/olPkTH7Y66RHo/PuSrMlQGenW+lJV3XV9B7I03507mDB4qfdbEP5+Q jf3fy1JrfpnVX7yq5Ba4Hi4pvNRcQ6u1u3mtYmMR/tTjaf+Ssb3pHpSXflD2nJHESxMV K8zw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.97.105 with SMTP id dz9mr6337655igb.49.1428600289375; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.17.194 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 10:24:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55353.128.135.70.2.1428598688.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> <55353.128.135.70.2.1428598688.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 10:24:49 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NFz6w1sUEumpmdMHqOcf5m7xGGA Message-ID: Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture From: Adrian Chadd To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: =?UTF-8?B?UGllcnJlLVl2ZXMgUMODwqluZWF1?= , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:24:50 -0000 On 9 April 2015 at 09:58, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, April 9, 2015 11:19 am, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> Hi! >> >> This sounds... very exciting. I'd start by taking a look at how PAE >> works - you may be able to reuse all those pieces and just implement >> more than the 4 bits of physical address space. The interesting bits >> of PAE aren't just the extension of the physical addresses, but all >> the management of mapping things into virtual address space as >> required. > > The only problem with all these exercises is: on 32 bit CPU box a single > process still can only have 4GB of address space (according to my > definitely not deep enough knowledge of kernel)... Well, whatever the kernel/user split is, sure. For some workloads that's fine; you just can't mmap a TB of memory. But there's nothing stopping you mmap'ing windows into a larger physical address space. I've done that before to get around limitations. -adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:14:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CA88E79 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AC0462 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iebrs15 with SMTP id rs15so107863393ieb.3 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fgROPuCTk/bmj735VwQgPIPDqzRLZrTCp7RIWCjnAOA=; b=ZOHR/RUGjOakZjQcP2SIpwqowS/FmxY0xkNHr6WmU7lBjkjoF/C+k9WE2UcbRMhR+L 51g01hXAhh4wufeOHRq4AF4xHOqQw9xOaQU0foKxpCQuA0KWqUKtZEUFaux/S7PcUfrR Ei35BXpfVYXBgioBsmyuMppHisAWEm6PmzXIq4Ppmj0pfbNdcDWvDi6ixBKXiKKIjjRU ZQXysYgio96PiBCWK0Uc0GJDQ2tr73Z5ZbiDl47GK20AJX/s5FPH/Vkw0KqBwFlDtKxd K9nOHjI8X6IFld/bp+PryyHHzWKbhyvNpd/bP3tvZOLn2V4q/jGb8qSjfrDBUAuGKsKg lGPw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.170.77 with SMTP id t74mr40790959ioe.85.1428603294319; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.29.207 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5526A2F1.5030609@qeng-ho.org> References: <5526A2F1.5030609@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 08:14:54 -1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NTP peering broken since recent security update? From: Kent Kuriyama To: Arthur Chance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:14:55 -0000 Are you doing any NTP authentication between peers? On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: > I have three NTP servers on my internal networks. Each of them uses > various external machines as servers but they also peer with the other two > internal ones to give some resilience in case the outside world goes away. > Since the update and restart associated with FreeBSD-SA-15:07.ntp the ntpd > processes appear to be unable to see peers (reach = 0) although they're > locking onto the servers quite happily. > > Anyone else seeing this? > > -- > Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to > GOTO 1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:33:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51F5139F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12E1A288 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t39IXAHs073083; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 btw.pki2.com t39IXAHs073083 Authentication-Results: btw.pki2.com; dmarc=none header.from=pki2.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pki2.com; s=pki2; t=1428604390; bh=oBJjKyXaiYuQu1z1O/c1DFZYnaWUEPjIzpWYlrfzo9s=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; z=Subject:=20Re:=20NTP=20peering=20broken=20since=20recent=20securi ty=20update?|From:=20Dennis=20Glatting=20|To:=20 Kent=20Kuriyama=20|Cc:=20Arthur=20Chance= 20,=20FreeBSD-Questions=0D=0A=09=20|Date:=20Thu,=2009=20Apr=202015=2011:33:10=20 -0700|In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20<5526A2F1.5030609@qeng-ho. org>=0D=0A=09=20; b=YfQCQp19gYmBQ6ZHNFr3cqxWwqUTaHCLx0XQC/xjU3YLn7gQ0+XClSvlvo/2ADNyn hc4bIJO86gtBMGKiFV0HeMK54TQGsXOcv1hXPYSlOkmyjOw57OavjP5Sdqdc+Ta5pa J71PPawdbWgZaH2LOY8RULXURUl/vsgeMCfAE/5UKbZ2wq8mz+0x+VpzJ5boFcBpFz uSMtV+AEMhHYbiayJL3vPnziRc94zgLIWzZudL04m0XxATOPxAaaTAVDAHmYL2chsY lHZAFE4wZtVnHi3xYRVMDLGB/oTw1bi1Z3m+SFSfMw2owDLW8EXbJUETEhQYDONZ2h xCq0Ulx3hwofw== Message-ID: <1428604390.72987.0.camel@pki2.com> Subject: Re: NTP peering broken since recent security update? From: Dennis Glatting To: Kent Kuriyama Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:33:10 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <5526A2F1.5030609@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: t39IXAHs073083 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com Cc: Arthur Chance , FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:33:23 -0000 On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 08:14 -1000, Kent Kuriyama wrote: > Are you doing any NTP authentication between peers? > I am. And yes, NTP stopped working between peers after the last patch (I'm at r281238). NTP 4.3.14 (net/ntp-devel) seems to work, though. FreeBSD-SA-15:07.ntp is not terribly useful. It says there is no work around and you should upgrade. Yet, now that I upgraded and without configuration changes, my five Statum2 core is now broken and it isn't (yet) clear how to fix it. That's a serious problem. By default NTP isn't compiled with debug. Patching/recompiling is a limited process on core systems, so I was hoping ntp-devel would help debug. Nada > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: > > > I have three NTP servers on my internal networks. Each of them uses > > various external machines as servers but they also peer with the other two > > internal ones to give some resilience in case the outside world goes away. > > Since the update and restart associated with FreeBSD-SA-15:07.ntp the ntpd > > processes appear to be unable to see peers (reach = 0) although they're > > locking onto the servers quite happily. > > > > Anyone else seeing this? > > > > -- > > Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to > > GOTO 1 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 18:58:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 493F5D1E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (smtp1.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 292FB75B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D4EEC40220 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w7.hushmail.com [65.39.178.32]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1B1E9401E3; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:58:01 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:58:00 +0000 To: "Michael Schuster" , terje@elde.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity From: opendaddy@hushmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409113928.EE31F401E4@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150409185801.1B1E9401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:58:03 -0000 It's probably not my DNS. From the NSD mailinglist: > On 9. april 2015 at 6:49 PM, "OndÅ™ej Surý" wrote: > > if you run the daemon in any environment that is resource starved and > the process(es) gets swapped than anything will be slow on first request > after period of inactivity. Not just NSD and not just any DNS server, > but anything... I read somewhere that some people use a cron script to send a request to the webserver every so often. Is this something that everybody does but that I've somehow missed? Does it have a name? Thanks! O.D. On 9. april 2015 at 11:41 AM, "Michael Schuster" wrote: > >ok ... > >regards >Michael > >On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:39 PM, wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> On 9. april 2015 at 5:20 AM, "Michael Schuster" > >> wrote: >> > >> >Hi, >> > >> >at first glance, this sounds a bit like a paging/swapping issue >- >> >are other things active on that machine? >> >> Not really, no. >> >> I have 2GB memory (350MB in use) and 3GB swap (600MB in use). >> >> Thanks! >> >> O.D. >> >> > >> >regards >> >Michael >> > >> >On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:41 AM, wrote: >> > >> >> Hi! >> >> >> >> I'm running this Rails app on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD droplet. >> >Lately I've >> >> been experiencing extremely slow initial requests after longer >> >periods of >> >> inactivity. Subsequent requests are fine. >> >> >> >> At first I thought it was my PostgreSQL database or the Rails >> >app itself, >> >> but now I doubt that's the case as I just realized SSH >> >connections made >> >> simultaneously with those initial requests are equally slow. >> >> >> >> Has anybody ever encountered anything similar? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> O.D. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Michael Schuster >> >http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ >> >> > > >-- >Michael Schuster >http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:07:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E63FC275 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9000A88F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45926 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2015 19:07:44 -0000 Received: from miucha.iecc.com (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 9 Apr 2015 19:07:44 -0000 Date: 9 Apr 2015 19:07:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20150409190722.1260.qmail@ary.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture In-Reply-To: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: Pierre-Yves.Peneau@lip6.fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:07:46 -0000 >So, I've the required hardware I think. My problem is to find out how >FreeBSD can use this mechanisms. But I'm realizing that it may be not a >kernel issue, because it's an hardware functionality which should works >with Linux too. Right ? Right. I don't think I've ever seen a machine with a 32 bit architecture that could address more than 36 bits of real memory. If you need more than that, you use a 64 bit architecture. As far as I know, 32 and 64 bit versions of FreeBSD use the same virtual memory manager, and there's no inherent reason you couldn't manage large physical memories with 32 bit code. But I can tell you that you will be sorry if you try. If the physical memory is much bigger than a program's logical address space, you have to do some sort of tricks for programs to access all of the memory. If the memory is only a few times larger than the address space, say 36 bits, it's OK to limit programs to 32 bits and hope you have enough of them to keep the memory busy. Or you use tricks like large shared files that are mapped in and out of the program's address space, typically with a blizzard of TLB misses every time. But if you have 40 bits, you really want something that can address 40 bits which in today's world means a 64 bit architecture. Take a look at ARMv8 which handles 48 bit physical addresses and is supposed to have low power implementations for smartphones and other power-constrained environments. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:23:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CB1B5F0 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.bway.net (smtp1.v6.bway.net [IPv6:2607:d300:1::27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34062A86 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gecko4 (host-216-220-115-15.dsl.bway.net [216.220.115.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m1316v@bway.net) by smtp1.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C352B95851 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:23:21 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bway.net; s=mail; t=1428607401; bh=ME/ZY4HvS7eZuI4Jsbh6RYDXNj3nLFfutKdUh75hGKQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Reply-To; b=GqScbMOhfse6woMneogo6XMYfaOGlvKkHi3iCpOCHAlMb4P+KFaI+Fov1+j8WJxZz h6GDmWbubd4vFMFHmInslmksU9gP/C2491Dc9WpY7yf+EVm6pksvI8fZpwBiA6hM04 dpgjA8uo9YIRK1hoN82ULqjVJAiGzdvjzcynCZ90= Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:23:21 -0400 From: mfv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Setting Trim _AFTER_ a New Install Message-ID: <20150409152321.65de5fd0@gecko4> Reply-To: mfv@bway.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:23:31 -0000 Hello, I've recently installed FreeBSD r10.1 using bsdinstall and then loaded a large number of programs and data. After spending considerable time on the installation I discovered that my SSD has TRIM which appears to be quite useful. After some investigation I understand that it is a simple flag that can be set after booting into single user mode. I hope my questions are simple: If TRIM is enabled will it mess up the disk so that everything has to be reinstalled? If not, is there anything else I should be aware of? With thanks ... __o _ \<,_ Marek (+)/ (+) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 19:38:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64BF42B7 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vn0-x234.google.com (mail-vn0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BA9CCBA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vnbg1 with SMTP id g1so21728560vnb.2 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=A3EB3rokvC2vmFrHMKIcQRiN8bwWSV4L+cJxpqv7b/A=; b=yiGPzLwQOvJZk3dWNkKS/ogPJqO0tgzH78n0aFxux3O13YkHDl+qRXX5O/qVLy7ImU w27e56mejq8YVnFQ5jhdgnv+RJlzF9b/tlwNX1czTdAUj3RD2FcyEWpzxyLlTLcRioL8 L3LovwGt+fVgnQaMh3wNAiC6rw3dHFdMxRYUS2wm/3pkF2/w1gNxLOOvK0KdNPiHZ0ZL xbIMd+3cn675NaQfldgAS248hFuqR+9FDu26af7s4g2ipu+IiR/cY5GiDN7IZP5VSQJR YIhkq08f4Hf0z4q14KhBr2+Ox7lSjvj3U563Tfz8l6UJrJuhNnlK0Ac26cRJy/jtVzYf 6zxQ== X-Received: by 10.52.254.2 with SMTP id ae2mr24983194vdd.33.1428608326148; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.61.100 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Pratik Singhal Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:08:25 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Compilation taking too long time To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:38:47 -0000 Hello, I am new to freeBSD and trying to contribute to freeBSD. I have a small question. Whenever I make a small change in the kernel, say apply a patch which only affects 1 or 2 files and compile the kernel using the command :- make KERNCONF=config_file buildkernel It takes a lot of time (around 1 hour) and starts rebuilding the whole kernel instead of just building the relevant files. I have checked the freeBSD handbook and checked the targets in Makefile , but none of them provide information about this situation. How, can I make sure that only the relevant files are built and not the whole kernel again and again ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 21:27:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8667AFC for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 21:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88FE1DCA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 21:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t39LRQO2032630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:27:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t39LRQaF032627; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:27:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:27:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: mfv Subject: Re: Setting Trim _AFTER_ a New Install In-Reply-To: <20150409152321.65de5fd0@gecko4> Message-ID: References: <20150409152321.65de5fd0@gecko4> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:27:27 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 21:27:35 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2015, mfv wrote: > Hello, > > I've recently installed FreeBSD r10.1 using bsdinstall and then loaded > a large number of programs and data. After spending considerable time > on the installation I discovered that my SSD has TRIM which appears > to be quite useful. After some investigation I understand that it is a > simple flag that can be set after booting into single user mode. > > I hope my questions are simple: > > If TRIM is enabled will it mess up the disk so that everything has to be > reinstalled? No, it will not harm the data. That said, before running tunefs to enable it, make a backup. Always make a backup. > If not, is there anything else I should be aware of? If you used ZFS-on-root, tunefs(8) and TRIM do not apply. ZFS uses TRIM natively now, but I'm not sure if that was in 10.1 or only now in 10-STABLE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 23:04:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 922EC93F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64906B72 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129E533C1E; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 357FA39822; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:04:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Pierre-Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9neau?= Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:04:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> ("Pierre-Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9neau=22's?= message of "Thu, 09 Apr 2015 17:04:41 +0200") Message-ID: <447ftkoqe6.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 23:04:09 -0000 Pierre-Yves P=E9neau writes: > I did not want give too much details in my first email to avoid > confusion, but this is exactly what I bring.. So let's be more clear :-) > > I'm working on an European project called TSAR(*). This project aims to > create a TeraScale ARchitecture with low consumption. That's why 32 bits > processors were chosen. > Our architecture is cc-NUMA. We have 256 clusters (maximum). Each > cluster contains 4 processors and have 4GB of RAM. MMUs can translate 32 > bits virtual addresses into 40 bits physical addresses using two > coordinates, which are used to identify each cluster. These coordinates > are on 4 bits, each. So, a physical address is build like this: > > | X coord(4 bits) | Y coord (4 bits) | Vaddr (32 bits) | > > That's how we obtain 40 bits of addressable space, and why we have 1TB > of physical memory. > > So, I've the required hardware I think. My problem is to find out how > FreeBSD can use this mechanisms. But I'm realizing that it may be not a > kernel issue, because it's an hardware functionality which should works > with Linux too. Right ? That is a bit of an oversimplification. The quote that led you to make your original post indicates a problem with the Linux mapping model which would not apply to using FreeBSD on your architecture. That's relatively minor, though. Your architecture has its own page table design, which makes sense to me on its own, but I don't have a sense of how much space the page table itself will take up. Obviously a page table for 1TB of 4KB pages is already too big for a 32-bit address space, even before you try mapping in the actual pages. So the page sizes will clearly average out much larger. My guess would be that the key design issue for you will be how your project's page table model fits into the interface of each OS's VM system. I can't give much advice in that area, though -- I tend to deal with embedded systems, which have entirely separate sets of challenges. Best wishes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 23:13:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD48CB7 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040CEC5A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B68033C1D; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 62FC339822; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Pratik Singhal Subject: Re: Compilation taking too long time References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:13:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Pratik Singhal's message of "Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:08:25 +0530") Message-ID: <443848opyk.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 23:13:31 -0000 Pratik Singhal writes: > Hello, I am new to freeBSD and trying to contribute to freeBSD. I have a > small question. > > Whenever I make a small change in the kernel, say apply a patch which only > affects 1 or 2 files and compile the kernel using the command :- > > > make KERNCONF=config_file buildkernel > > It takes a lot of time (around 1 hour) and starts rebuilding the whole > kernel instead of just building the relevant files. > > > I have checked the freeBSD handbook and checked the targets in Makefile , > but none of them provide information about this situation. Makefile targets specify *what* to build, not *how*. > How, can I make sure that only the relevant files are built and not the > whole kernel again and again ? Try the comments at the top of Makefile.inc1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 00:50:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 972B7E05 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 00:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F21A824 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 00:50:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1428627022; bh=Y3xaY0QCqba2ga38cDPZYmx2nKENYwpgaVGpnrlimBk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=aFk84DH4oiItW+Qki6AyaXjUunDeJ3SOkAQJ3h3s2DgM1qvSaoOa8crQus1l88kJna985SG6atXL1oskDVMjxH1HUJQxBbh384BtPn05egdarPlbI4EK3yqOcEXB0aNtkB+56is5Y1HAeZB1OZ5k0W9n/w79ofOk8sfCh9q2G+2U1M7fDPn/PS2O2kDnIP10dJiDkgIC1ONwG54Kjktxm3n9t8Zw+Rtx9SKFIaYkw0tu8eM7tmeablZIgrBjK/UhsgbWzV7VW/hZ0PICnbgsLiOQJe4k8wT3qt1eFZpTHd8Jc8w5HP/cHMHrMyfZC7rKDSxGc+a7htb1mJmSEsPS3Q== Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2015 00:50:22 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.197] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2015 00:50:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2015 00:50:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 28101.45108.bm@smtp206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TzDxoboVM1mpJeQXtp30nU_WPoqoRjqAlGh4hQYZaUh5IK7 YZfBJOyw6z80C5QDd44FJSMRIPH6VaKLv4LDxAVW5oMo6tY8SJTxewB.xPjO 36CpSoXAt8o27g81kmlZUWwVkDGAftCUeQAyAFVxXbOtwJKLkQSnzosZQnb4 hjL1navcHSk0vXg.QPFMp9O5elqhF.sK5zePTCanKZvaQ.Z26cCUmiNMEZqK L3oZbNec4jUllTjeJIFY7sZB_cwj75bPQh.PHPrOcgoXO4LSelA6ugKtqEYx asWl3SdTZqS5a9DOo7dfO9lx7_JQj9LE1DEjRSlApaW4lvmtwJQRo.KbBHZ0 JojAM8CRO0CmQDFbFcBlZU2HwctxIEXckQ8PDIzn6pcrt7H5MQnLr2obafop sHFfivr_9701yqmyexG2NJ4sS0gODTkIjGLb4GHhoZEJ83VewEfJ23II2yHz ZbWSty1kcbTCtz6vwo5OuoBfwsuDo1wgnQjK8T22hFf45ZGxFlsJZsemJ5BG h5Axx0yYPW5wXFDVfvWxlXwX3a1ErgBQGt7bx X-Yahoo-SMTP: h3Xqg6.swBC0yI913RMMwp94grO_cg-- Message-ID: <55271E4D.1090407@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 20:50:21 -0400 From: "pathiaki2@yahoo.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409113955.B714D401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150409113955.B714D401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 00:50:29 -0000 Could this be a simple name resolution timeout issue? Check your /etc/resolv.conf file and comment out the first server and see if using the second server gets faster response. A simpler check would be to put the host that is connecting to the machine IPs address in the /etc/hosts and turn off DNS resolution in /etc/nsswitch.conf. P. On 04/09/2015 07:39, opendaddy@hushmail.com wrote: > Hello! > > On 9. april 2015 at 5:20 AM, "Michael Schuster" wrote: >> Hi, >> >> at first glance, this sounds a bit like a paging/swapping issue - >> are other things active on that machine? > Not really, no. > > I have 2GB memory (350MB in use) and 3GB swap (600MB in use). > > Thanks! > > O.D. > >> regards >> Michael >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:41 AM, wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I'm running this Rails app on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD droplet. >> Lately I've >>> been experiencing extremely slow initial requests after longer >> periods of >>> inactivity. Subsequent requests are fine. >>> >>> At first I thought it was my PostgreSQL database or the Rails >> app itself, >>> but now I doubt that's the case as I just realized SSH >> connections made >>> simultaneously with those initial requests are equally slow. >>> >>> Has anybody ever encountered anything similar? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> O.D. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Schuster >> http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 00:51:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2373E90 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 00:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2-188.sinamail.sina.com.cn (mail2-188.sinamail.sina.com.cn [60.28.2.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191E282F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 00:51:07 +0000 (UTC) X-SGroup: ow Received: from mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com ([172.16.113.64]) by irtj11-91.sinamail.sina.com.cn with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2015 08:50:59 +0800 Received: by mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 5775E2C0019; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:50:59 +0800 (CST) Auther: VipMail_1.0 (REM) Sender: taogediyi+==ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc===@sina.com From: To: Subject: =?utf-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaUmU6IEluaXRpYWwgcmVxdWVzdCB0byBzZXJ2ZXIgZXh0cmVtZWx5IHNsb3cgYWZ0ZXIgbG9uZ2VyIHBlcmlvZHMgb2YgaW5hY3Rpdml0eQ==?= MIME_version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Message-Id: <20150410005059.5775E2C0019@mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:50:59 +0800 (CST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 00:51:08 -0000 5oKo5aW977yM5oKo55qE5p2l5L+h5bey6KKr6Z+s5ZOl5Zui6Zif5pS25Yiw77yM6K+36ZqP5pe2 5YWz5rOoUVHnvqTjgIHnvZHmoKHmlrDpspzkuovnrYnnmoTlpZblirHkv6Hmga/lj5HluIPvvIzo sKLosKLlj4LkuI7vvIE= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 02:49:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09D61739 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD1DF3A4 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F69B277D5; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:49:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t3A2naPS004092; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:49:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:49:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Pratik Singhal Subject: Re: Compilation taking too long time Message-Id: <20150410044935.5041ae3a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:49:41 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:08:25 +0530, Pratik Singhal wrote: > Whenever I make a small change in the kernel, say apply a patch which only > affects 1 or 2 files and compile the kernel using the command :- > > > make KERNCONF=config_file buildkernel > > It takes a lot of time (around 1 hour) and starts rebuilding the whole > kernel instead of just building the relevant files. > > > I have checked the freeBSD handbook and checked the targets in Makefile , > but none of them provide information about this situation. Check the comment headers of /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1, as well as "man src.conf". > How, can I make sure that only the relevant files are built and not the > whole kernel again and again ? Building an operating system kernel is a complex task. It's usually not as easy as "just compile this one file into machine code, then magically splice it into the whole process that creates the kernel". ;-) In fact, running a _clean_ building process (when a source file has changed) is something quite typical and intended. The make utility, aided by several Makefiles across the source tree, decides what to do. Interfering with this logic can lead to a nonfunctional kernel, even if you say that just "1 or 2 files" are affecte by a change. The make utility is meant to deal with the decisions that those changes imply. Doing things like "resume an interrupted build process" or "cope with a small change" are therefore hard to achieve. However, it's possible to build parts of the kernel (and especially kernel modules) by running "make" in their respective subdirectories. Of course this does not lead to a fully-functional kernel, but in case you just want to rebuild a module, this approach might work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 04:09:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 345571A0 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C726E35 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:09:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru ([212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 38623427 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:09:22 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t3A49Kx7092805 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:09:22 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7/Submit) id t3A49JqX092804 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:09:19 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:09:19 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Poudriere error: Unable to execute id(1) in jail. Emulation or ABI wrong Message-ID: <20150410040919.GA92715@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20150405141949.GA52341@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150405141949.GA52341@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Organization: OAO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:09:26 -0000 Does/can poudriere keep its state somewhere else other than in /var/poudriere and /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d ? Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Something suddenly happened to poudriere. Maybe after upgrading to > poudriere-devel-3.1.99.20150331. > > Could you please comment the following error. I begin with > /var/poudriere and /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d being empty, cannot even > create a jail from scratch: > > > [root@svn64 ~] find /var/poudriere /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d -type f > [root@svn64 ~] > [root@svn64 ~] !425 > poudriere jail -l > JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH > [root@svn64 ~] !432 > poudriere jails -c -j 93amd64 -a amd64 -v 9.3-RELEASE > /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/MANIFEST 100% of 782 B 5649 kBps 00m00s > [00:00:01] ====>> Fetching base.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 > /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/base.txz 100% of 67 MB 3000 kBps 00m23s > [00:00:25] ====>> Extracting base.txz... done > [00:00:34] ====>> Fetching src.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 > /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/src.txz 100% of 98 MB 3591 kBps 00m28s > [00:01:03] ====>> Extracting src.txz... done > [00:01:31] ====>> Fetching games.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 > /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/games.txz100% of 865 kB 42 MBps 00m00s > [00:01:32] ====>> Extracting games.txz... done > [00:01:32] ====>> Fetching lib32.txz for FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE amd64 > /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/fromftp/lib32.txz100% of 11 MB 2461 kBps 00m04s > [00:01:37] ====>> Extracting lib32.txz... done > [00:01:39] ====>> Cleaning up... done > [00:01:39] ====>> Recording filesystem state for clean... done > [00:01:39] ====>> Upgrading using ftp > /etc/resolv.conf -> /var/poudriere/jails/93amd64/etc/resolv.conf > jail: "93amd64-default" already exists > jail: "93amd64-default-n" already exists > [00:01:39] 0;31m====>>0;0m 0;31mError: Unable to execute id(1) in jail. Emulation or ABI wrong.0;0m > [00:01:39] ====>> Error while creating jail, cleaning up. > [00:01:39] ====>> Removing 93amd64 jail... done > [root@svn64 ~] uname -a > FreeBSD svn64.sibptus.ru 9.3-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p10 #0: Tue Feb 24 21:28:03 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [root@svn64 ~] !448 > find /var/poudriere /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d -type f > [root@svn64 ~] > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 04:20:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7260517 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96202F43 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-131-196.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.131.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC5EF3CCCD; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 06:20:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t3A4KdgP005052; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 06:20:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 06:20:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Subject: Re: Poudriere error: Unable to execute id(1) in jail. Emulation or ABI wrong Message-Id: <20150410062039.f3816e87.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150410040919.GA92715@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20150405141949.GA52341@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20150410040919.GA92715@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:20:48 -0000 On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:09:19 +0600, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Does/can poudriere keep its state somewhere else other than in > /var/poudriere and /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d ? You can set POUDRIERE_ETC to change the default from /usr/local/etc; and for everything else, there are symlinks. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 04:50:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F275783F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F4A269 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:50:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru ([212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 38623592; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:50:09 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t3A4o5aZ093956; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:50:08 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7/Submit) id t3A4o5dB093955; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:50:05 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.TOMSK.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:50:05 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Poudriere error: Unable to execute id(1) in jail. Emulation or ABI wrong Message-ID: <20150410045005.GA93584@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20150405141949.GA52341@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20150410040919.GA92715@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20150410062039.f3816e87.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150410062039.f3816e87.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: OAO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 04:50:12 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:09:19 +0600, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Does/can poudriere keep its state somewhere else other than in > > /var/poudriere and /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d ? > > You can set POUDRIERE_ETC to change the default from > /usr/local/etc; and for everything else, there are > symlinks. ;-) I'm afraid you did not read my original question which was like "If I scrapped /var/poudriere and /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d, why is poudriere still complaning about an ABI error when trying to create a jail from scratch"? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 07:35:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B26D8FB7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 07:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52D737B9 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 07:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t3A7Zf5D007315; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:35:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <55277D4D.4010802@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:35:41 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block , mfv Subject: Re: Setting Trim _AFTER_ a New Install References: <20150409152321.65de5fd0@gecko4> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 07:35:54 -0000 On 09/04/2015 22:27, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 2015, mfv wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've recently installed FreeBSD r10.1 using bsdinstall and then loaded >> a large number of programs and data. After spending considerable time >> on the installation I discovered that my SSD has TRIM which appears >> to be quite useful. After some investigation I understand that it is a >> simple flag that can be set after booting into single user mode. >> >> I hope my questions are simple: >> >> If TRIM is enabled will it mess up the disk so that everything has to be >> reinstalled? > > No, it will not harm the data. That said, before running tunefs to > enable it, make a backup. Always make a backup. > >> If not, is there anything else I should be aware of? > > If you used ZFS-on-root, tunefs(8) and TRIM do not apply. ZFS uses TRIM > natively now, but I'm not sure if that was in 10.1 or only now in > 10-STABLE. I'm on 10.1-REL, it's got TRIM in zfs root@arthur# sysctl vfs.zfs | grep trim vfs.zfs.vdev.trim_on_init: 1 vfs.zfs.vdev.trim_min_active: 1 vfs.zfs.vdev.trim_max_active: 64 vfs.zfs.vdev.trim_max_bytes: 2147483648 vfs.zfs.vdev.trim_max_pending: 64 vfs.zfs.trim.enabled: 1 vfs.zfs.trim.txg_delay: 32 vfs.zfs.trim.timeout: 30 vfs.zfs.trim.max_interval: 1 -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 08:12:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDDEECF2 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net (pina.toolfactory.net [213.97.158.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBACC3E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE73177AC9 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (formentor.toolfactory.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id pFNQyjcx3Fr8 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AB4177B6F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:06:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at logpmzimmta01v.toolfactory.net Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (formentor.toolfactory.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id rkzdvD-Db_-1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xorrigo.toolfactory.net (unknown [192.168.2.210]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5068D177AD9 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:06:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Raimund Sacherer Reply-To: Raimund Sacherer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1238051630.123373558.1428653212213.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> In-Reply-To: <1473793416.123358510.1428652630801.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> Subject: Network Interface name correction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.2.213] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.8_GA_6184 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF7 (Mac)/8.0.8_GA_6184) Thread-Topic: Network Interface name correction Thread-Index: UdzGSI/IDNmARVSiQXerqmEpvqczHA== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:12:26 -0000 Hello, not sure if this is the right list to ask about it but here it goes. We have one firewall (out of a cluster) in a very remote area and it displays erratic behaviour. On reboot, sometimes it initialises network port 0 correctly and sometimes it does not. I firmly believe it has to do with the KVM port being activate on port 0 and I had lot's of troubles with it (working/not working) so it's a gamble if port 0 can be initialised on reboot or not. And more often then not it doesn't come up correctly. When it does not work I get this in the boot log: em0: port 0xf060-0xf07f mem 0xf7c00000-0xf7c1ffff,0xf7c34000-0xf7c34fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 em0: Using an MSI interrupt em0: Setup of Shared code failed device_attach: em0 attach returned 6 My real problem is that once this happens that the port which should be em1 will now be em0 and then all my port assignments don't work anymore. In anticipation of this possible error I configured the VLANs on the switches accordingly so at least I can get access to the firewall and can work on it, but I do not know how I can force e.g. that MAC XX always is em1 (or em2, em3) regardless of what the BIOS or the boot process think it should be. Thank you, Best Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 09:01:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A82663C3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net (pina.toolfactory.net [213.97.158.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C60238 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B330177B8D; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:01:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (formentor.toolfactory.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id ckZ8J1NputvM; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:01:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1769D177BA6; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:01:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at logpmzimmta01v.toolfactory.net Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (formentor.toolfactory.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id LkeAfofQ6v4t; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:01:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xorrigo.toolfactory.net (unknown [192.168.2.210]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010B4177BA2; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:01:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:01:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Raimund Sacherer Reply-To: Raimund Sacherer To: opendaddy@hushmail.com Message-ID: <369199529.123430074.1428656504549.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> In-Reply-To: <20150409185801.1B1E9401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409113928.EE31F401E4@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409185801.1B1E9401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [192.168.2.213] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.8_GA_6184 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF7 (Mac)/8.0.8_GA_6184) Thread-Topic: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity Thread-Index: Rzd3iVMuOBxE0pj7TrV8jTrU3Be15g== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:01:49 -0000 ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: opendaddy@hushmail.com > To: "Michael Schuster" , terje@elde.net, > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 8:58:00 PM > Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer period= s of > inactivity > It's probably not my DNS. From the NSD mailinglist: > > On 9. april 2015 at 6:49 PM, "Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD" = wrote: > > > > if you run the daemon in any environment that is resource starved and > > the process(es) gets swapped than anything will be slow on first reques= t > > after period of inactivity. Not just NSD and not just any DNS server, > > but anything... > I read somewhere that some people use a cron script to send a request to = the > webserver every so often. Is this something that everybody does but that > I've somehow missed? Does it have a name? > Thanks! > O.D. Hi,=20 we have quite a few unix servers around and I am unfamiliar with a cron-set= up just to keep some sort of connectivity going.=20 First I would check the /etc/resolv.conf, if you want post it.=20 Then what I would do in your case is open a few ssh sessions, run top with = cpu focus in one, top with IO focus in another and in a third i would take = a tcpdump written to a file. Maybe another session with vmstat to check on = pagin/pageout, etc.=20 Then I'd wait the appropriate amount of time and try a web connection, if i= t takes long, I'l check the top's if there is something going on (lot's of = CPU, lot's of IO, pages etc.) and check the tcpdump in wireshark to see if = there are problematic DNS queries which maybe are timing out, etc.=20 That should cover the bases ... Maybe you are on some sort of cheap VPS ser= vice which has resources severely over-commited and maybe your whole system= has to "wake up" ... but this is a very far-fetched scenario.=20 Best=20 Ray=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 09:16:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEA32B28 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.lip6.fr (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DF03E1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asim.lip6.fr (asim.lip6.fr [132.227.86.2]) by isis.lip6.fr (8.15.1/lip6) with ESMTP id t3A9GYjh018568 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:16:34 +0200 (CEST) X-pt: isis.lip6.fr Received: from [0.0.0.0] (chomsky.torservers.net [77.247.181.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by asim.lip6.fr (8.15.1/8.14.4) with ESMTPSA id t3A9GVkB011578 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:16:33 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <552794F7.60306@asim.lip6.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:16:39 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=E9neau?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture References: <20150409190722.1260.qmail@ary.lan> In-Reply-To: <20150409190722.1260.qmail@ary.lan> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020707070200000309030807" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]); Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:16:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 on 132.227.60.2 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:16:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020707070200000309030807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 04/09/2015 09:07 PM, John Levine wrote: >> So, I've the required hardware I think. My problem is to find out >> how FreeBSD can use this mechanisms. But I'm realizing that it >> may be not a kernel issue, because it's an hardware functionality >> which should works with Linux too. Right ? > > Right. I don't think I've ever seen a machine with a 32 bit > architecture that could address more than 36 bits of real memory. > If you need more than that, you use a 64 bit architecture. But it exists :-) We have a simulate environment, and a real prototype which have 24 clusters (i.e. 96 CPUs) and 96GB of physical memory. All of this with 32 RISC processors. > As far as I know, 32 and 64 bit versions of FreeBSD use the same > virtual memory manager, and there's no inherent reason you > couldn't manage large physical memories with 32 bit code. But I > can tell you that you will be sorry if you try. If the physical > memory is much bigger than a program's logical address space, you > have to do some sort of tricks for programs to access all of the > memory. If the memory is only a few times larger than the address > space, say 36 bits, it's OK to limit programs to 32 bits and hope > you have enough of them to keep the memory busy. Or you use tricks > like large shared files that are mapped in and out of the program's > address space, typically with a blizzard of TLB misses every time. > > But if you have 40 bits, you really want something that can address > 40 bits which in today's world means a 64 bit architecture. Take a > look at ARMv8 which handles 48 bit physical addresses and is > supposed to have low power implementations for smartphones and > other power-constrained environments. > > R's, John > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thank you for your advices. I agree with you, but it's an internship, I can't say "Please, would you like to change all your CPUs for me ?" :-) Moreover, the main challenge is to deal with huge memory with 32 bits processors (only RISC), I think it's really interesting. - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre-Yves Péneau (#3361856) | SoC - LIP6 - UPMC | | Couloir 24-25 Bureau 417 | first.last@lip6.fr | | 4 place Jussieu 75252 Paris Cedex 05 | +33 1 44 27 54 15 | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVJ5T2AAoJEPy7VC2L9m/AO1oP/3fNrX7QZgZgT1QdT5P/niNH vtLCXED7tay0qylBVqXqLM4CVIPZGYnsU81G3prpD+tZK3zLWGvQ13HdEVZXHrm2 oYZUtpaUQ7AN7dgkD2Hq5eo2rgzuilnm9GkjMPFMKhEq0m4vhlzaVj2FH0oxshCT 3t8o2upIW/acEaQtwuUtS0tL5e7guEv75+r+mD5Ip3l13CPZUizvwv4LzCU5LbxF 07DA68iIjJleCRihoLJGMjXMc6O3FiQjsZIqtyWXV3SkCrTDRMh0Ae+08D2SHLeT eVJhzdFZ7DFP6C/6xv1QEmTEyJwNwmJFc1PO+UhgISusvErmRDyevDRwfEsuUaC1 +XSSulKm27q6d2Rbp1nmr+mSZZ6L3faKYjgN9rpUJy1N03cW0wKceIzeIIy99kXA 3B1LAx0c8sm+RJP9KiSMCus1qKvdfTRn8eglEcR030+lHZp6eHGEPFm0DMaROdjy D17l8V4czul0Zn+NbwzYRP3TP4rTMDsFKj+s16oQQw+4+vWLrAif1mOJbgxa25vg pXpXH7zF4j7cLWc+d8Lz91Ql0mqYnG1ZC0BkasiNRPyQue0jxXDR7wDhHT9azfSw W2ZEWGicTY9oJE4N7NEvq4eWD+2iLM8Xvv1OgGW0Kc+xrS08YjzOxkbiH0boQLXp NnA9RAJsDoahZj+1YoMs =hhyy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------020707070200000309030807 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="0x8BF66FC0.asc.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0x8BF66FC0.asc.sig" iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVJ5T2AAoJEPy7VC2L9m/AYtcQAIAULKMGCQIC2K7KutjM024PLIoJhh0F fPLxIgcpLydCCmYOljoOPE06vCWtJgO/rPvjCfXettPIjaZm46ju7DFPFtgs1E6NWisuxWED Dkf273il5AnFLNyiGZFWlHPJgi7NbSdKSaVQpDjVsicfzpkGthpwkjSmtYRzUk4R/va+sUX+ ZqSeFa9abA3BIll1VIUS1PPPzVlw0Urby2sEtYOQsBz2t2VXu6l7H4r/wJlrprqDwmq3U2PP Pn7NjOqo3An4jw5zzgwy+hp63NWkastagJLouWplF/IrENR6rrV4nKpHXhdetJiz4GdXeFlO gDbeW1u+px0uxDI5F7FiACfZNashrOka3mfneqpU4KmVv0P8xnR9rrs0PJFomL5yhtPEJMRl WuoyzwuT0VFAAa8eNUPK/rIhzbOxrn7plHEekm2/gEdPaCZghzPbLK2NP+3ePaWLrZqGAqzm GMODbcbFCotutcXU+vKkFtToFFV97mS7P8Z9CX4avxDrkI5DshXjOH99UOM9n/lIghetbluq eb5J0Egx75TyKq3dpAqc0mGULwURQ3+ynqfCIwHaoAv4hNQsfGO6by34U/MiG3zn6+qLkl2J OvXX0tcjfyY9u7gXxw+0vxareIZTljlNXjsi9a97Grg8IkSg+aVSc68qyxGJBDjVfpy8qZnh X3vh --------------020707070200000309030807-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 09:17:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA605BF8 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.lip6.fr (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A073F0 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asim.lip6.fr (asim.lip6.fr [132.227.86.2]) by isis.lip6.fr (8.15.1/lip6) with ESMTP id t3A9HIOp001958 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:17:18 +0200 (CEST) X-pt: isis.lip6.fr Received: from [0.0.0.0] (chomsky.torservers.net [77.247.181.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by asim.lip6.fr (8.15.1/8.14.4) with ESMTPSA id t3A9HFFM007637 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:17:17 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <55279523.3070207@asim.lip6.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:17:23 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Pierre-Yves_P=E9neau?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture References: <5526408F.1090005@asim.lip6.fr> <20150409114941.692910293a8120de4dafd400@yahoo.es> <20150409114906.6dd4379c@archlinux> <55264DC5.9070606@asim.lip6.fr> <55267A63.4040503@qeng-ho.org> <55269509.1080103@asim.lip6.fr> <447ftkoqe6.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <447ftkoqe6.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060206050104000205060601" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (isis.lip6.fr [132.227.60.2]); Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:17:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 on 132.227.60.2 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:17:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060206050104000205060601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 04/10/2015 01:04 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Pierre-Yves Péneau writes: > >> I did not want give too much details in my first email to avoid >> confusion, but this is exactly what I bring.. So let's be more >> clear :-) >> >> I'm working on an European project called TSAR(*). This project >> aims to create a TeraScale ARchitecture with low consumption. >> That's why 32 bits processors were chosen. Our architecture is >> cc-NUMA. We have 256 clusters (maximum). Each cluster contains 4 >> processors and have 4GB of RAM. MMUs can translate 32 bits >> virtual addresses into 40 bits physical addresses using two >> coordinates, which are used to identify each cluster. These >> coordinates are on 4 bits, each. So, a physical address is build >> like this: >> >> | X coord(4 bits) | Y coord (4 bits) | Vaddr (32 bits) | >> >> That's how we obtain 40 bits of addressable space, and why we >> have 1TB of physical memory. >> >> So, I've the required hardware I think. My problem is to find >> out how FreeBSD can use this mechanisms. But I'm realizing that >> it may be not a kernel issue, because it's an hardware >> functionality which should works with Linux too. Right ? > > That is a bit of an oversimplification. The quote that led you to > make your original post indicates a problem with the Linux mapping > model which would not apply to using FreeBSD on your architecture. That's exactly what I thought, but that's your documentation which led me to this conclusion. The "Unlike Linux" part confused me. I thought that FreeBSD had a better physical memory management than Linux (maybe, but not for what I'm looking for). I think you should add something concerning the page table size, like you said in your previous email. That's the answer I was looking for, and it may be useful for those who have the same question (even if nobody in the world except me is trying to deal with 1TB and 32 RISC processors). > That's relatively minor, though. Your architecture has its own page > table design, which makes sense to me on its own, but I don't have > a sense of how much space the page table itself will take up. > Obviously a page table for 1TB of 4KB pages is already too big for > a 32-bit address space, even before you try mapping in the actual > pages. So the page sizes will clearly average out much larger. > > My guess would be that the key design issue for you will be how > your project's page table model fits into the interface of each > OS's VM system. I can't give much advice in that area, though -- I > tend to deal with embedded systems, which have entirely separate > sets of challenges. > > Best wishes. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thank you. - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pierre-Yves Péneau (#3361856) | SoC - LIP6 - UPMC | | Couloir 24-25 Bureau 417 | first.last@lip6.fr | | 4 place Jussieu 75252 Paris Cedex 05 | +33 1 44 27 54 15 | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVJ5UNAAoJEPy7VC2L9m/AsdMQAKgXFWNLPYVBfxpRMw/ycsfP qJkYpozND5daSd/1ha/XYX5G3asZDKidYc3m+IK3TD4YIatB6UAgXU8lXNR7OEa5 8hExg+/qv9mD0D2dEtwiB65WMuAPsBINGXAPtSgU/IGLv4FeG/jBtOha7Y4IDsPv epIZsUiSAOanxPKJROa0pVatBnxEWYt4auP/GRJ/j3jCKb1lHsakhr4NaZ91iy7E 9CruDQ1kr6iN82HCKugCBn2GWrQnV5AKcmBfTdFwi6ibnJWpt7Wof5ASM/VYHSBn v1ym/PfZapxThiPtXEfsKsDdSYk4XAP2AfFRewVXbW3EV82h40UK0PF7xt2zsKm4 L+Q+8ZxoINi3PwCHaU/rb53QXQoRLM5QYfg5nwYCZtC962A8O+D4BN67NzVFJwGk tHqyAstXaFFEgjuUQubDw57oT5x/RWNcISsnS+uH1kvdNrElQFcmX24V07Vg7nar Dxcvdw14FcsQu3pXdZoDHRlaD3M0MwaoE8e/fN42dTU9OfFqITp51gVDls48I0AV MOVgMgi1lT05AQbARwsaB70eB5qa8Y2zavNZ+GRx+TLnFAfBPCN1HLprqbZHzHuB yITzMxgjQeGdGJIRfiH1BR9eE38ZKiPBVcta69UPH3KeuuFHKdQiXRP3oXVoKS/B OJ52Ye1urDl27TnjuMoZ =+0iS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------060206050104000205060601 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Fri, 10 Apr 2015 03:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Sibananda Sahu References: <0a2b68c0f411b50a276ce00a8d8b15ee@mail.gmail.com> <444mp2avfy.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <78386e1c45b998c5ae63a63301d1ac23@mail.gmail.com> <44wq1posa6.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44wq1posa6.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIBBheFu/GSn/ikPV4vQevJE0vKPQKjEDVRAgPoozsAyWfE7Zy5XwhA Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:46:02 +0530 Message-ID: <58e98b85960a28cbedc9c3108ecc3673@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: How to know the system state if the system is going for halt or poweroff or reboot in FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 10:16:11 -0000 Thanks Lowell Gilbert and John Baldwin for your help. I have registered an event handler and my job is done easily. Thanks for your time. - Sibananda Sahu -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Gilbert [mailto:freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3:04 AM To: Sibananda Sahu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to know the system state if the system is going for halt or poweroff or reboot in FreeBSD Sibananda Sahu writes: > Hi Lowell Gilbert, > > As you said: > "That's not really a requirement. It's a method you plan to use to > meet your requirement, but we can only guess at what useful > functionality you are making these changes to achieve." > > Yes that's true. > > I am working on mrsas(4) driver on FreeBSD. > My requirement is to power off the drives (to save power consumption) > attached to LSI controller if the system is shutting down. > If the system is rebooting then we need not do anything with the drives' > power supply. > > So to make the above things possible the mrsas(4) driver needs to know > if the system is really shutting down or it is rebooting. Okay, that sounds reasonable. I don't know that particular hardware, but I can find a few things in general. You are powering down the drives as a way of putting them in a safe state before control disappears. If the device were capable of shutting itself down independently of the host computer (and had the power supply to do so reliably), I assume you would be doing that instead of worrying about the order in which host components shut down. If the driver already loads an ACPI table, you may want to go through ACPI to trigger your power down command. [I don't have any experience writing code for ACPI either, so I may well be wrong on that point.] Aside from that, you can register a kernel event handler. I am not sure which event you would want to hook, but shutdown_final and shutdown_post_sync would be good candidates. Sibananda Sahu had previously asked: >> - Sys_reboot() will call kern_reboot() which in turn end up calling >> EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE(shutdown_final, howto); >> >> - Based on the howto variable passed to the kern_reboot() call, >> corresponding event handlers will be invoked. You probably understand this already, but in case you don't: shutdown_final is an event for which your driver can register. Good luck. 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From: J David To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:03:22 -0000 With a setup containing two carp/pf firewall/load-balancers in front of six web servers, some packets are popping up on the backup carp node. All eight machines are connected to a (fault tolerant) 10Gbit switch over dual ix connections in an LACP lagg. The carp/pf nodes use VLANs to split incoming and outgoing traffic. With some careful tcpdumping, we have identified that the problem is that every now and then (about 1 in 1000 connections), the first SYN-ACK packet from a web server is returned to the backup carp node instead of the primary. There, it gets dropped and there's a 3-second delay until the client host retransmits the SYN packet. Actually quite a bit more traffic than that winds up on the backup node, maybe as much as a few % of total traffic, but it seems like the initial SYN packet is the only one that gets dropped. This may be because pfsync hasn't created the state on the backup node yet? Here's what the tcpdump looks like from each machine, showing all the packets on the web server, all but one of the packets on the primary carp node, and the "missing" SYN-ACK packet on the backup carp node. Web server: 07:02:05.257968 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [S], seq 1377231734, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 371382342 ecr 0], length 0 07:02:05.258016 IP 192.168.80.2.80 > 192.168.0.17.30892: Flags [S.], seq 1053809273, ack 1377231735, win 0, options [mss 1460], length 0 07:02:08.254929 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [S], seq 1377231734, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 371385342 ecr 0], length 0 07:02:08.254943 IP 192.168.80.2.80 > 192.168.0.17.30892: Flags [S.], seq 1053809273, ack 1377231735, win 0, options [mss 1460], length 0 07:02:08.255332 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [.], ack 1, win 65535, length 0 07:02:08.255383 IP 192.168.80.2.80 > 192.168.0.17.30892: Flags [.], ack 1, win 65535, length 0 07:02:08.256155 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [P.], seq 1:28, ack 1, win 65535, length 27 Primary carp node: (client is identical) 07:02:05.258324 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [S], seq 1377231734, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 371382342 ecr 0], length 0 07:02:08.255287 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [S], seq 1377231734, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 371385342 ecr 0], length 0 07:02:08.255331 IP 192.168.80.2.80 > 192.168.0.17.30892: Flags [S.], seq 1053809273, ack 1377231735, win 0, options [mss 1460], length 0 07:02:08.255691 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [.], ack 1, win 65535, length 0 07:02:08.255766 IP 192.168.80.2.80 > 192.168.0.17.30892: Flags [.], ack 1, win 65535, length 0 07:02:08.256519 IP 192.168.0.17.30892 > 192.168.80.2.80: Flags [P.], seq 1:28, ack 1, win 65535, length 27 Backup carp node: 07:02:05.263024 IP 192.168.80.2.80 > 192.168.0.17.30892: Flags [S.], seq 1053809273, ack 1377231735, win 0, options [mss 1460], length 0 There are no carp failovers, interface write errors are <1/million and the error counters don't increase while the problem is happening. Switch says no errors, no LACP drops, nothing. The total traffic levels are low. This problem happens in waves, weirdly usually at low-usage times like the middle of the night. The primary carp node is ~98% idle. All the hardware checks out, and they are all physical machines, no virtualization or jails or anything going on. The logs are silent while this is happening. Six of the eight systems, including both carp nodes, are running 9.3. Two of the web servers are running 10.1. The problem does happen with all six web servers. The problem is definitely related to carp. If the default route is changed from the carp address to the master node's address on that same interface on some or all of the web servers, the problem will go away for only those servers. As soon as it's switched back, the problem returns. Similarly, running a flood ping against the carp address from a web server: $ sudo ping -c 100000 -f 192.168.80.254 PING 192.168.80.254 (192.168.80.254): 56 data bytes ......................................................... --- 192.168.80.254 ping statistics --- 100000 packets transmitted, 99944 packets received, 0.1% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.017/0.024/0.535/0.013 ms Produced exactly 56 stray ICMP echo request (100000 - 99944 = 56) on the backup server: $ sudo tcpdump -n -i vlan2 host 192.168.80.254 and icmp tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on vlan2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes 10:36:34.432811 IP 192.168.80.6 > 192.168.80.254: ICMP echo request, id 22737, seq 16720, length 64 10:36:34.443833 IP 192.168.80.6 > 192.168.80.254: ICMP echo request, id 22737, seq 16721, length 64 10:36:34.454830 IP 192.168.80.6 > 192.168.80.254: ICMP echo request, id 22737, seq 16722, length 64 10:36:34.465831 IP 192.168.80.6 > 192.168.80.254: ICMP echo request, id 22737, seq 16723, length 64 [ ... etc ... ] ^C 56 packets captured 1219 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel One thing of note is that the stray packets all appear to be about 11ms apart. That pattern is consistent across all 56 packets and is repeatable. Finally, here is the ifconfig on the carp nodes, from the carp interface all the way down to the wire. Master: carp2: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.80.254 netmask 0xfffffff0 inet6 fd00:0:0:80::254 prefixlen 64 nd6 options=21 carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 0 vlan2: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=303 ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:98 inet 192.168.80.251 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.168.80.255 inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a98%vlan2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa inet6 fd00:0:0:80::251 prefixlen 64 nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active vlan: 2 parent interface: lagg0 lagg0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=407bb ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:98 inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a98%lagg0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto lacp lagghash l2,l3,l4 laggport: ix1 flags=1c laggport: ix0 flags=1c ix0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=407bb ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:98 inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a98%ix0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-Twinax ) status: active ix1: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=407bb ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:98 inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a99%ix1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-Twinax ) status: active Backup: carp2: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.80.254 netmask 0xfffffff0 inet6 fd00:0:0:80::254 prefixlen 64 nd6 options=21 carp: BACKUP vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 150 vlan2: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=303 ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:7d inet 192.168.80.252 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.168.80.255 inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a7d%vlan2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa inet6 fd00:0:0:80::252 prefixlen 64 nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active vlan: 2 parent interface: lagg0 lagg0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=407bb ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:7d inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a7d%lagg0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto lacp lagghash l2,l3,l4 laggport: ix0 flags=1c laggport: ix1 flags=1c ix0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=407bb ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:7d inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a7c%ix0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-Twinax ) status: active ix1: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=407bb ether 90:e2:ba:0d:0a:7d inet6 fe80::92e2:baff:fe0d:a7d%ix1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-Twinax ) status: active Why are packets showing up at the backup node? Why is it intermittent? Can anything be done to eliminate this issue? Thanks for any advice! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 13:09:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87B36232 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DBE2352 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.143] ([95.91.226.107]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lz3nU-1ZSnhP3OAy-014D2S; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:09:27 +0200 Message-ID: <5527CB85.7060709@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:09:25 +0200 From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Newman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating a virtual clone References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:PlvMvb/zo2QlgXuQp8oZSPlkHskqapl1XIdTzMHvXSwMk9jVL8i HloFeHUmE8S+S5bI1ke3wP0uWRMHJohZtZdouQ6JOujRY7CWYrepFUV4sYvd2rezkImI0AH EeJ+sMzQlYGWZUaYVmj4fVHvCn/BW2336Jk6l5ntln17lPzYbt9hBKS7Pag9oIDy0sZsrRV njGcok+ApXbO9Q5/X2ZFA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:09:34 -0000 On 04/06/15 19:43, David Newman wrote: > To test some new software, I'd like to replicate a 9.3-RELEASE machine > and run it as a virtual machine (in this case inside VMware vSphere, but > I'm open to using other hypervisors if this isn't possible with VMware). > > The 9.3 host is itself virtual, running as a VPS instance in a colo. > > What's the best way to do this? > > Thanks! > > dn > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Have you access to the ESXi/ VMWare Host? https://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_clone.html Else you can make an image with dd or truimage and make a new vm with this image. 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[76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gz4sm10682518igb.19.2015.04.10.06.31.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Apr 2015 06:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:31:41 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: email address being harvested from ports website Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:31:31 -0000 Hello list; I maintain 4 ports and within the last 6 months I have started receiving large amounts of spam on the ports maintainer email address. Last week I went through the process of changing the maintainers email addresses and within 3 days I started receiving spam on the new email addresses. The http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ website is being harvested for email addresses. We all have personally experienced spam email. Now the volunteers who create and maintain the ports in the Freebsd ports collection are being targeted with spam. In todays world of spam emails containing payloads of bots, viruses and mullware, I think its past time for www.freebsd.org/ports/ to stop displaying any email address at all. I release this is only a simple solution targeted at the script kiddies. Any seriously harvester could always download the complete ports tree source and harvest the maintainer email address from the ports Makefile. To address this problem in a way to make it totally go away, a new way of handling the ports maintainers email address in the ports system is fast becoming a priority. Separation of the maintainers email address from the ports Makefile is the ultimate solution. People on the ports team who know the behind scenes workings of the port system are far better suited to develop a new method of accomplishing this. Lets look at this in a different way. I believe that email address are consitered as private personal information and covered under the privacy information U.S. law which says they can not be exposed to the public. This post is intended to generate discussion and shine light on what may be a legal oversight by the ports team. Thank you in advance for you interest and comments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 13:44:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AB54327; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ma.sdf.org", Issuer "ma.sdf.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04BEAA1D; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ma.sdf.org (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX1+8D/7ArmsjfQeyEjRpdTKz1OxgvCGbwJw@ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) by sdf.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t3ADhvGM022768; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:43:57 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:43:57 -0500 From: cpet To: Ernie Luzar Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website In-Reply-To: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> Message-ID: X-Sender: cpet@sdf.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:44:06 -0000 On 2015-04-10 08:31, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Hello list; > > I maintain 4 ports and within the last 6 months I have started > receiving large amounts of spam on the ports maintainer email address. > Last week I went through the process of changing the maintainers email > addresses and within 3 days I started receiving spam on the new email > addresses. > > The http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ website is being harvested for email > addresses. > > We all have personally experienced spam email. Now the volunteers who > create and maintain the ports in the Freebsd ports collection are > being targeted with spam. > > In todays world of spam emails containing payloads of bots, viruses > and mullware, I think its past time for www.freebsd.org/ports/ to stop > displaying any email address at all. > > I release this is only a simple solution targeted at the script > kiddies. > Any seriously harvester could always download the complete ports tree > source and harvest the maintainer email address from the ports > Makefile. > > To address this problem in a way to make it totally go away, a new way > of handling the ports maintainers email address in the ports system is > fast becoming a priority. > > Separation of the maintainers email address from the ports Makefile is > the ultimate solution. People on the ports team who know the behind > scenes workings of the port system are far better suited to develop a > new method of accomplishing this. > > Lets look at this in a different way. I believe that email address are > consitered as private personal information and covered under the > privacy information U.S. law which says they can not be exposed to the > public. > > This post is intended to generate discussion and shine light on what > may be a legal oversight by the ports team. > > > Thank you in advance for you interest and comments. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Seriously ? People like you are the reason why I am nagged with a message about cookies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:48:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4DA4650; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com (mail-ig0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F8B9B55; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so1152250igb.1; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=mIO7gwiJhU+0RVpOw2abRRNRPcY7zj3wUV/I7pfZU8w=; b=E1QG6mFQm9qTNwp1JJEuJsVCB65DdFhJ1mb2Dqnoatbqa13Flx2dJHN6qs7Cf1alyb wR2SPiKucbNa/aFm50DbKTth8ENn2/rivkRdwLmjLWeA3C0/Z/5ViMJlihYxgZbKvOuW 04tpazsJs4su+yphRrP7Fx4w6J7C4Pjt9H2RvtMcqrphhn7y77LLEnZH/BHpNaEaaR4z Yax5wuj2bsdtN3r/sFQvFddfvzu0MKDZrX7q7ZZBGfzh/IfMvPYEuKywTTNGogyiPgyC 20UywolBRZ/fZr9cLCtPq0XUNhXx7RVKwn0OcXU6iGV1BNqxJdWkN1PHpwrZc6jgeXsY Zzyw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.119.142 with SMTP id b14mr4502945icr.29.1428680885753; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: jdavidlists@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.67.139 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:48:05 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sKZiDtAYXeQ_Mo_dLNJ_wBeLCRY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why is backup carp node seeing traffic? From: J David To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:48:06 -0000 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:03 AM, J David wrote: > Why are packets showing up at the backup node? Why is it > intermittent? Can anything be done to eliminate this issue? To follow up on this, I think I have identified the problem behavior. Here is a tcpdump of carp traffic seen by the web test client (on vlan4): $ sudo tcpdump -e -i net0 -n carp and ether src 00:00:5e:00:01:04 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on net0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes 15:20:36.659743 00:00:5e:00:01:04 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.0.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 4, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:20:37.660173 00:00:5e:00:01:04 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.0.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 4, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:20:38.660787 00:00:5e:00:01:04 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.0.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 4, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:20:39.661177 00:00:5e:00:01:04 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.0.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 4, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:20:40.661614 00:00:5e:00:01:04 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.0.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 4, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:20:41.662149 00:00:5e:00:01:04 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.0.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 4, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:20:42.662593 00:00:5e:00:01:04 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.0.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 4, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 This is exactly what one would expect to see: carp advertisements only from the master node, every 1 second, like clockwork. Now, here is a tcpdump of carp traffic seen by the web server (on vlan2, where the problem is seen): $ sudo tcpdump -e -n -i vlan2 carp and ether src 00:00:5e:00:01:02 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on vlan2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes 15:22:24.946405 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:22:25.946910 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:22:26.947406 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:22:27.299658 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 240, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:22:27.947905 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:22:28.948407 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:22:29.948906 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:22:30.692661 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 240, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 As before, the master is advertising once per second, like clockwork. Yet every few seconds, the backup advertises itself anyway, using the carp interface MAC to do it. It seems certain that this causes the switch to decide that MAC has now moved to the backup's switch port, so it sends traffic there until the next packet arrives with this source address from the master, switching it back. tcpdump run on the backup shows that it is receiving the advertisements from the master just fine, then acting like it didn't: $ sudo tcpdump -e -n -i vlan2 carp and ether src 00:00:5e:00:01:02 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on vlan2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes 15:27:22.099936 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:27:22.099938 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.251 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 0, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:27:22.495786 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 240, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 The web server shows that the "leaking" advertisements from the backup happen every 3.2 seconds: $ sudo tcpdump -c 4 -e -n -i vlan2 carp and ether src 00:00:5e:00:01:02 and host 192.168.80.252 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on vlan2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes 15:34:33.547068 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 240, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:34:36.745077 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 240, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:34:39.943078 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 240, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:34:43.141084 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 240, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 4 packets captured 13788 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel That is with advskew=0 on the master and advskew=50 on the backup. Setting advskew=250 on the backup increases the interval to 3.98 seconds: $ sudo tcpdump -c 4 -e -n -i vlan2 carp and ether src 00:00:5e:00:01:02 and host 192.168.80.252 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on vlan2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes 15:36:05.363113 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 250, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:36:09.342124 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 250, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:36:13.321122 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 250, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 15:36:17.300134 00:00:5e:00:01:02 > 01:00:5e:00:00:12, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 70: 192.168.80.252 > 224.0.0.18: VRRPv2, Advertisement, vrid 2, prio 250, authtype none, intvl 1s, length 36 4 packets captured 19658 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel So, the carp backup leaks packets at the rate of exactly 3 seconds + the advskew interval (1s * advskew/255). And in fact the logs on the carp backup do indicate that it thinks it's doing the world a favor. It's full of: Apr 10 15:44:53 fw2 kernel: carp2: link state changed to UP Apr 10 15:44:53 fw2 kernel: carp2: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Apr 10 15:44:53 fw2 kernel: carp2: link state changed to DOWN Apr 10 15:44:57 fw2 kernel: carp2: link state changed to UP Apr 10 15:44:57 fw2 kernel: carp2: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Apr 10 15:44:57 fw2 kernel: carp2: link state changed to DOWN Apr 10 15:45:00 fw2 kernel: carp2: link state changed to UP Apr 10 15:45:00 fw2 kernel: carp2: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Apr 10 15:45:00 fw2 kernel: carp2: link state changed to DOWN (Unfortunately I was only looking at the master's logs before. :( ) Does this shed any light on why this might be happening? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 15:56:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A705A10 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5.hushmail.com (smtp5.hushmail.com [65.39.178.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19BCEC73 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C9E2B601E0 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.52]) by smtp5.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4BAD7E0549; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:34 +0000 To: "Raimund Sacherer" Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity From: opendaddy@hushmail.com In-Reply-To: <369199529.123430074.1428656504549.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409113928.EE31F401E4@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409185801.1B1E9401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> <369199529.123430074.1428656504549.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150410155634.4BAD7E0549@smtp.hushmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:36 -0000 Hello! On 10. april 2015 at 9:01 AM, "Raimund Sacherer" wrote: > >Hi, > >we have quite a few unix servers around and I am unfamiliar with a >cron-setup just to keep some sort of connectivity going. > >First I would check the /etc/resolv.conf, if you want post it. Turns out my resolv.conf is actually autogenerated by DigitalOcean so if anything it's their fault. I've contacted customer support and will keep you all posted on the outcome. >Then what I would do in your case is open a few ssh sessions, run >top with cpu focus in one, top with IO focus in another and in a >third i would take a tcpdump written to a file. Maybe another >session with vmstat to check on pagin/pageout, etc. > >Then I'd wait the appropriate amount of time and try a web >connection, if it takes long, I'l check the top's if there is >something going on (lot's of CPU, lot's of IO, pages etc.) and >check the tcpdump in wireshark to see if there are problematic DNS >queries which maybe are timing out, etc. That's a really good idea! >That should cover the bases ... Maybe you are on some sort of >cheap VPS service which has resources severely over-commited and >maybe your whole system has to "wake up" ... but this is a very >far-fetched scenario. Just confirmed that DigitalOcean does not have any sort of power saving mode in place. O.D. > >Best >Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 16:26:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F91758E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp10.hushmail.com (smtp10.hushmail.com [65.39.178.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 710CBFED for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp10.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E01EC0224 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.52]) by smtp10.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 32DCCE0251; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:27 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 15:56:26 +0000 To: "pathiaki2@yahoo.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity From: opendaddy@hushmail.com In-Reply-To: <55271E4D.1090407@yahoo.com> References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409113955.B714D401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> <55271E4D.1090407@yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150410155627.32DCCE0251@smtp.hushmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:26:40 -0000 On 10. april 2015 at 12:49 AM, "pathiaki2--- via freebsd-questions" wrote: > >Could this be a simple name resolution timeout issue? > >Check your /etc/resolv.conf file and comment out the first server >and >see if using the second server gets faster response. > >A simpler check would be to put the host that is connecting to the >machine IPs address in the /etc/hosts and turn off DNS resolution >in >/etc/nsswitch.conf. Thanks man, I'll give that a go and report back. O.D. > >P. >On 04/09/2015 07:39, opendaddy@hushmail.com wrote: >> Hello! >> >> On 9. april 2015 at 5:20 AM, "Michael Schuster" > wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> at first glance, this sounds a bit like a paging/swapping issue >- >>> are other things active on that machine? >> Not really, no. >> >> I have 2GB memory (350MB in use) and 3GB swap (600MB in use). >> >> Thanks! >> >> O.D. >> >>> regards >>> Michael >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:41 AM, wrote: >>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I'm running this Rails app on a DigitalOcean FreeBSD droplet. >>> Lately I've >>>> been experiencing extremely slow initial requests after longer >>> periods of >>>> inactivity. Subsequent requests are fine. >>>> >>>> At first I thought it was my PostgreSQL database or the Rails >>> app itself, >>>> but now I doubt that's the case as I just realized SSH >>> connections made >>>> simultaneously with those initial requests are equally slow. >>>> >>>> Has anybody ever encountered anything similar? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> O.D. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Schuster >>> http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 17:13:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15B26C1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C33D7BA for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53723 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2015 17:13:02 -0000 Received: from miucha.iecc.com (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2015 17:13:02 -0000 Date: 10 Apr 2015 17:12:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20150410171240.770.qmail@ary.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture In-Reply-To: <552794F7.60306@asim.lip6.fr> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: Pierre-Yves.Peneau@lip6.fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:13:05 -0000 >> If you need more than that, you use a 64 bit architecture. > >But it exists :-) We have a simulate environment, and a real >prototype which have 24 clusters (i.e. 96 CPUs) and 96GB of physical >memory. All of this with 32 RISC processors. I believe they can build it. But I think you will find it very difficult to program. Every system that requires programs to be decomposed into cooperating loosely coupled parts to get full performance has hit this wall. >Thank you for your advices. I agree with you, but it's an internship, >I can't say "Please, would you like to change all your CPUs for me ?" >:-) Moreover, the main challenge is to deal with huge memory with 32 >bits processors (only RISC), I think it's really interesting. It'll certainly be a learning experience, even if what you learn is "don't do that again." Good luck. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 18:29:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B10B61BD for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from taos.firemountain.net (taos.firemountain.net [207.114.3.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "taos.firemountain.net", Issuer "taos.firemountain.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73B3A2F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gsp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taos.firemountain.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with SMTP id t3AICtgo004946 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:12:55 -0400 From: Rich Kulawiec To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website Message-ID: <20150410181255.GA2891@gsp.org> References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:29:26 -0000 This may be well-intentioned, but it demonstrates a nearly-complete lack of understanding of how spammers' address-harvesters work. The techniques in use in the field are very sophisticated and unlikely to be defeated by anyone who hasn't spent at least a decade studying them in detail. (And even then: probably not. The existence of hundreds of millions of 'bots changed the game markedly and there is no undoing that.) The ONLY reasonable course of action, at this point, is to presume that all email addresses are either (a) in the hands of spammers or (b) will be in their hands soon, and plan defenses accordingly. Any other approach is doomed to fail and should be instantly dismissed with prejudice: the only people it will impede in the slightest are non-spammers. ---rsk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 18:44:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFB23403 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880A723D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm-relay8.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06882175 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 21:44:21 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at vm-relay8.estpak.ee Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vm-relay8.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5aKxafbLUS2Q for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 21:44:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from BACKUP-MX-Relayhost1.estpak.ee (backup-mx-relayhost1.estpak.ee [88.196.174.249]) by vm-relay8.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049CD222F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 21:43:46 +0300 (EEST) Received-SPF: None (no SPF record) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=62.65.33.35; helo=server; envelope-from=account@regs.com; receiver=freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businessmail: no Received: from SERVER (35.33.65.62.sta.estpak.ee [62.65.33.35]) by BACKUP-MX-Relayhost1.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAAD499 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 21:43:45 +0300 (EEST) From: "westernunionresponse" Subject: Western Union: money transfer confirmed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:43:46 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:44:23 -0000 - This mail is in HTML. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 18:51:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C74AD95F; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ma.sdf.org", Issuer "ma.sdf.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0985371; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ma.sdf.org (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX18wxxLFIK0qyk+i4PV4+JDGSO4mNvMNxOk@ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) by sdf.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t3AIp5Sd017058; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:51:05 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:51:05 -0500 From: cpet To: Rich Kulawiec Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website In-Reply-To: <20150410181255.GA2891@gsp.org> References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> <20150410181255.GA2891@gsp.org> Message-ID: <7395751a3c754c5ed35bf8e0d8ab601d@sdf.org> X-Sender: cpet@sdf.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:51:09 -0000 On 2015-04-10 13:12, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > This may be well-intentioned, but it demonstrates a nearly-complete > lack of understanding of how spammers' address-harvesters work. > > The techniques in use in the field are very sophisticated and unlikely > to > be defeated by anyone who hasn't spent at least a decade studying them > in detail. (And even then: probably not. The existence of hundreds of > millions of 'bots changed the game markedly and there is no undoing > that.) > > The ONLY reasonable course of action, at this point, is to presume that > all email addresses are either (a) in the hands of spammers or (b) will > be in their hands soon, and plan defenses accordingly. Any other > approach > is doomed to fail and should be instantly dismissed with prejudice: the > only people it will impede in the slightest are non-spammers. > > ---rsk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I don't know the sudden thought that I won 237 Million makes me happy :P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 19:16:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CBE37F2 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com (mail-ig0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 411A48AB for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so5764782igb.1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6eKzfvXnNzrCQVoamXIqc7R+ejwJA1We9ECiG7XvRkM=; b=uN/+brs8JtFxhdPi6OHYArZ40eFuFcEip4wTFrd8JeXEJhMB00BoomCPN0QdlhcGhY iAM8NLOs6HtABtWn3ue+7pn4Xhvl4j+QDA2lk2yXKPDdLEfHQbvWjUlrhWpEkNcQjPel 9bgfEWrzmH3yMBkRyMh2KQr5F8Rz5++63BjdqIGEIvRFB3LzWNGruBlsnNerPHdxJ8Fy NDzwABr/xOFzWc0m+mSSUuEZEM+B3O10AGBwcA/RiZhCvv9VIzsZ/THFXt/aouV0UDhO 0zM2RKlcj5Vff4pzSFAfC7sLGQ+7VOf+Y3+6wEMIYpwEWDERHPwlLt7/Y0Q/vqJddvH+ 012g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.137.202 with SMTP id z10mr5717301ict.37.1428693410660; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.17.194 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150410171240.770.qmail@ary.lan> References: <552794F7.60306@asim.lip6.fr> <20150410171240.770.qmail@ary.lan> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:16:50 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hQqN5idV3fuWueA5RZLN95pWKV8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How FreeBSD manage more than 4GB on 32 bits architecture From: Adrian Chadd To: John Levine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Pierre-Yves.Peneau@lip6.fr, FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:16:51 -0000 Hi! Everyone - this is a research project. If they want to hack around with FreeBSD on a PAE style 32 bit system but massively parallel, please let them. If they hit the same walls as others have hit, hey, great. But they may come up with something novel. Pierre - thanks for looking into it. Yes, there's PAE support in FreeBSD. Yes, there's some NUMA domain awareness in FreeBSD. You're definitely not starting from scratch. I don't know of any PAE style awareness in the MIPS32 code; that would be a good place to start investigating. So please take a look at what PAE / i386 is doing and see if you can map that to vm and pmap management for MIPS32. It'd likely overlap a lot with how we would support > 256MB of RAM on MIPS32 - right now we just use the direct map setup for everything, and that's limited to the KSEG sizes of 256MB. -adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 20:39:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21CF3289 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mario.brtsvcs.net (mario.brtsvcs.net [199.48.128.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB2F8160 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:2580:181:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mario.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67C892C160E; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:2580:181:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:2580:181:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B7AADAA; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <552834F4.6030409@bluerosetech.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:39:16 -0700 From: Mel Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ernie Luzar , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 20:39:23 -0000 On 2015-04-10 06:31, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Lets look at this in a different way. I believe that email address are > consitered as private personal information and covered under the privacy > information U.S. law which says they can not be exposed to the public. While there are precedents for email addresses treated as private information, the contexts for those precedents do not apply. The email address stored in the port's maintainer information is a published point of contact. It is, by definition, public information and necessarily so. Public is public--you don't get to control who uses that information. If you want to curtail spam to your maintainer address, use a gmail account. Google's spam filters are very good at filtering out the black- and grey-hat spam that gets sent to maintainer addresses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 23:12:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D27254D8 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9FE698 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.106.150.188]) by know-smtprelay-7-imp with bizsmtp id EPAx1q02q4481jl01PAxnn; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:10:57 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [81.106.150.188] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=cpwVkjIi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=DGj713NdaxKrsjjgQne7PA==:117 a=DGj713NdaxKrsjjgQne7PA==:17 a=J0QyKEt1u0cA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=wkn_RV5lTJQZDsGN76QA:9 a=487epQyqd6tRXTTb:21 a=3TclkYJRBcLYEWxp:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 500) id A511688877; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:10:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:10:57 +0100 From: Ken Moffat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website Message-ID: <20150410231057.GB765@milliways> References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> <552834F4.6030409@bluerosetech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <552834F4.6030409@bluerosetech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:12:09 -0000 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:39:16PM -0700, Mel Pilgrim wrote: > > If you want to curtail spam to your maintainer address, use a gmail account. > Google's spam filters are very good at filtering out the black- and grey-hat > spam that gets sent to maintainer addresses. > LOL -> 110% effective in my opinion, with very little opportunity to send false positives back to them (about 1 time in 10). So if you use gmail, check your spam "folder" frequently. So far, the most egregious example I've seen was a -rc release announcement from a certain Mr Torvalds : on this list that would certainly be regarded as O/T, but google made that identification on the linux kernel list ;-) Unfortunately, the address I'm using here comes via virginmedia who outsourced email to google - lots of supposedly adult messages get trapped there, but regrettably not the spam from this list. Oh well, at least there are usually only a few spams per day at the moment. ĸen -- Nanny Ogg usually went to bed early. After all, she was an old lady. Sometimes she went to bed as early as 6 a.m. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 23:28:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE8536B4; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ma.sdf.org", Issuer "ma.sdf.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F3C17F5; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ma.sdf.org (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX19AgRWSVxkMJmVBC+X+Nc8MaEWtwbekzPg@ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) by sdf.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t3ANSXRY032565; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:28:33 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:28:33 -0500 From: cpet To: Ken Moffat Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website In-Reply-To: <20150410231057.GB765@milliways> References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> <552834F4.6030409@bluerosetech.com> <20150410231057.GB765@milliways> Message-ID: <968338db58190efa9072a933497dff20@sdf.org> X-Sender: cpet@sdf.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:28:37 -0000 On 2015-04-10 18:10, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:39:16PM -0700, Mel Pilgrim wrote: >> >> If you want to curtail spam to your maintainer address, use a gmail >> account. >> Google's spam filters are very good at filtering out the black- and >> grey-hat >> spam that gets sent to maintainer addresses. >> > LOL -> 110% effective in my opinion, with very little opportunity to > send false positives back to them (about 1 time in 10). So if you > use gmail, check your spam "folder" frequently. So far, the most > egregious example I've seen was a -rc release announcement from a > certain Mr Torvalds : on this list that would certainly be regarded > as O/T, but google made that identification on the linux kernel list > ;-) > > Unfortunately, the address I'm using here comes via virginmedia who > outsourced email to google - lots of supposedly adult messages get > trapped there, but regrettably not the spam from this list. Oh well, > at least there are usually only a few spams per day at the moment. > > ĸen Stop using google, and use something that's not free, ISP email counts as "free" email. Then your email works. you have services such as hushmail, it just takes one user to flag a email as spam from a ML to make it a pain for the rest. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 23:49:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1539A46 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 773EF9A8 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by widdi4 with SMTP id di4so12969042wid.0 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=anvMQZvZ1QSZqT68P05UOpCGD/yvaHmII+K++Wq7hTQ=; b=z82HqRQwxYf1uZSMdyyDEcg724vHsSCMjD0kpoh8aIcW4S2W2pipODQV1K1ve1BdC7 T0Cye3V3m2IX9A4KfsIdSG55YKsq+S/LP4LfU+9WOQ56kyQ3xVc8UHuij6byChy1VadL HdVS5ccwp1GY6ecRX9S1M/jjxFK94mBKPea4T8bBYCHSIbXSHRNdhBnTNjwWlKFkKzox pBBIKscAZqhyVZruQA8JYU89Nzi9RxQIbixcAtbXlhv1eT2tqPxr1cPpaDyOETCS3eVV vWjX/DLp/QoaU4DAB8JRgdCDNQmAtilx2T5ZjmAlz0k+Lt5chLXMkSKNHObEjjoqR+pr JLFw== X-Received: by 10.180.90.82 with SMTP id bu18mr1881235wib.88.1428709766900; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (5ec3c570.skybroadband.com. [94.195.197.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e2sm406838wij.5.2015.04.10.16.49.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:49:23 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website Message-ID: <20150411004923.5ff2e87e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20150410231057.GB765@milliways> References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> <552834F4.6030409@bluerosetech.com> <20150410231057.GB765@milliways> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:49:30 -0000 On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:10:57 +0100 Ken Moffat wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:39:16PM -0700, Mel Pilgrim wrote: > > > > If you want to curtail spam to your maintainer address, use a gmail > > account. Google's spam filters are very good at filtering out the > > black- and grey-hat spam that gets sent to maintainer addresses. > > > LOL -> 110% effective in my opinion, with very little opportunity to > send false positives back to them (about 1 time in 10). I use gmail for mailing lists and get practically no FPs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 00:46:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB605F93 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C572BEC4 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:46:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=9Arl+/c81wo/G7wXt1wnX+E9WAyGeGcciY7rATvZ40M=; b=iRx2ZKFV/LEXVw4sqM7JBgcp+oVvchDfT9ZtxlrPwJ+e3SLGD+siMK0JQJ9f+QgVy3LYvhiXCPg8CWZ5qKGzJJGUUQuDi5JNAvJgqHuAcmFJ85Hey/CYjsAd9P/qutzm65+NCX+4IKRgM8jGTcaW2DQErgQs0NSYCBshxi4inVI=; Received: from [114.121.164.77] (port=43063 helo=B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YgjZJ-001BRe-MI; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 18:46:42 -0600 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:46:30 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Ernie Luzar Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website Message-ID: <20150411084630.7727dbd2@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:46:50 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:31:41 -0400 Ernie Luzar wrote: > I maintain 4 ports and within the last 6 months I have started > receiving large amounts of spam on the ports maintainer email this is an old subject. Some harvester got registered here and collect the address of every e-mail posted to this list. They started a long time ago by directly answering every e-mail sent out by the list and went now to typical spamming. There is no real way against this. Registration makes it more difficult but not impossible. But they are very easy to filter. > The http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ website is being harvested for > email addresses. > It is not the web-site, it is the lists from where they get the e-mail addresses. > We all have personally experienced spam email. Now the volunteers who > create and maintain the ports in the Freebsd ports collection are > being targeted with spam. > They are very easy to filter. So, why bother. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 09:01:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E355730E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A85A6E9 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1YgrI9-003Zwb-GP>; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:01:29 +0200 Received: from f052130223.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.52.130.223] helo=thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1YgrI9-003Ksq-DT>; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:01:29 +0200 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:01:24 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: SAMBA 4.1: simple fileserver for win7 with LDAP authetication? Message-ID: <20150411110124.5e4e2046.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Organization: FU Berlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/DCBwaVDysT=ubXKRQZO9dQa"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-IP: 78.52.130.223 X-ZEDAT-Hint: A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:01:38 -0000 --Sig_/DCBwaVDysT=ubXKRQZO9dQa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having used for years SAMBA3 as a simple fileserver for Win7 boxes, we migr= ated to SAMBA 4.1. Our UNIX/SAMBA users backend was OpenLDAP, the domain name of the windows domain/workgroup had been stored in LDAP as cn=3Ddomains,dc=3Dfoo,....=20 Well, I have now already setup a samba 4.1 server, which is running so far.= The only thing what isn't working is getting access from a windows 7 box, the log of= samba 4.1 always reports something like [...] [2015/04/11 10:58:29.353733, 0] ../source3/param/loadparm.c:2377(service_= ok) WARNING: No path in service print$ - making it unavailable! [2015/04/11 10:58:29.380217, 0] ../source3/passdb/pdb_ldap.c:6529(pdb_ldapsam_init_common) pdb_init_ldap= sam: WARNING: Could not get domain info, nor add one to the domain. We cannot work reliab= ly without it. [2015/04/11 10:58:29.380265, 0] ../source3/passdb/pdb_interface.c:178(make_pdb_method_name) pdb backend ldapsam:"ldap://192.168.0.1/" did not correctly init (error was NT_STATUS_CANT_ACCESS_DOMAIN_INFO) [...] For me, it seems that smbd can not retrieve the domain name of the SAMBA do= main correctly. But at this point, I do not find suitable informations how to se= tup objects in OpenLDAP (schemata syntax?) to provide samba 4.1 compliance. Can somebody h= elp or give suitable hints where to find those informations? Thanks in advance, Oliver IMPORTANT: please CC me!=20 --Sig_/DCBwaVDysT=ubXKRQZO9dQa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVKOLkAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8HgkH/11VNf0g/wSZKaU2vJBeIrfl +443z+QEB+5kxH+Qhcnst4w/NxZTY8NrJGf6KeWUbFTaoLKMcFolUgOe3aziYwvu nXvz1QgZFfUFAZL+OpNOughRj+Fa/GL70Yf6SJFW9DGuxCY3706MF+jCrFSEGu8N NuGwBzpUW61FHIZY4py3Ngata3jRIG/ra7UlB+Dzuauicn4Wnpd4ALHDDDWTPSvG nMn18OK9JXTeB/7Q29FNm5E6eZvOTXhQJFMQiVb8sS5kSSyV+VqlNcN2NDFM1ZeE 2RPnLQlnEgKLga1ijnAUCvBE52gpC9aWAw33VtD5EBFk9lvtaOYVcDv1EEytu8Y= =7Uol -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/DCBwaVDysT=ubXKRQZO9dQa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 11:46:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BC97ECB for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp208.alice.it (smtp208.alice.it [82.57.200.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CC88BB for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (87.18.56.84) by smtp208.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 54D9EA3309EB3BD0 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:40:39 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t3BBec1p007648 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:40:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <55290836.9030306@netfence.it> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:40:38 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Automounter (amd) troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:46:45 -0000 Hello. I've got a problem with amd on a 9.3/amd64 box. In this net there are two NAS (Zyxel-310, sliglty different due to being of different years), identically configured with an NFS share. I'd like to mount those two exports and need them to persist after a reboot; however I don't want the server to hang at boot in case either NAS us not available. So I thought using AMD might be a good idea. showmount lists both: > # showmount -e backup.xxxxxx > Exports list on backup.xxxxxx: > /i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup 192.168.109.1 > # showmount -e backup.yyyyyyy > Exports list on backup.yyyyyyy: > /i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup 192.168.110.1 I can mount them both manually, but while amd will mount the first, it won't work with the latter: > # ls /net/192.168.109.4/i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup > Gest0787 Gest0790 Gest0794 Gest0798 Gest0802 GestI0822 IT0789 IT0793 IT0797 IT0801 ITF0815 > Gest0788 Gest0792 Gest0796 Gest0800 GestI0813 IT0785 IT0791 IT0795 IT0799 IT0803 ITF0821 > # ls /net/192.168.110.3/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup > ls: /net/192.168.110.3/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup: Input/output error Or: > # ls /host/backup.xxxxxx/i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup > Gest0787 Gest0790 Gest0794 Gest0798 Gest0802 GestI0822 IT0789 IT0793 IT0797 IT0801 ITF0815 > Gest0788 Gest0792 Gest0796 Gest0800 GestI0813 IT0785 IT0791 IT0795 IT0799 IT0803 ITF0821 > # ls /host/backup.yyyyyyy/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup > ls: /host/backup.yyyyyyy/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup: Input/output error In the logs I get: > amd[18902]: get_nfs_version NFS(3,tcp) failed for backup.yyyyyyyRPC: Program/version mismatch > amd[18902]: NFS service not running on backup.yyyyyyy > amd[18902]: initializing backup.yyyyyyy's pinger to 30 sec As I said, I can mount them both manually with the following lines: > backup.xxxxxx:/i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup /mnt/xxxxxxbackup nfs rw,noauto 0 0 > backup.yyyyyyy:/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup /mnt/yyyyyyybackup nfs rw,noauto 0 0 Any help or pointer on this? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 12:24:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C6B9C0D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62447C87 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so16048982igb.1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:24:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QYc063wuNaXQfy/t/nU0PI0JunINznPOPyZQDicG42U=; b=B95BvLwwJ8I3apKskmyhpN55pm4HI9aJ8jBkl5TS1u0R66h5ZDMuUVNtd/VYDxduzQ ZDOUp82togfeVOXx5KrBRek8+kKtjPwyTnwLpNpEktLdQC05eE3j5B1CPd5jF+JAX58N k16cFymLN+s7qs1gUau0oxdQyAWynYvtwpBBh4DwhrgBwFB9gjxl36g/JABJkUM81NZs G+20ul9ZgI3GwOiEfOYtt+H1OqaBOnbCcI5stAUMg17FijAJUfcoMaCGb3bV15IFp9jm 12GmZnkAnskoMGtkBBsMt/7A7VUg8RaAntdiBjUFF0z2Yy636OBAXPHXtbEzNbqp/lBG 65BQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.15.82 with SMTP id x79mr9134358ioi.75.1428755089580; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.24.141 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:24:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55290836.9030306@netfence.it> References: <55290836.9030306@netfence.it> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 05:24:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Automounter (amd) troubles From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Andrea Venturoli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:24:50 -0000 On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 4:40 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I've got a problem with amd on a 9.3/amd64 box. > > In this net there are two NAS (Zyxel-310, sliglty different due to being > of different years), identically configured with an NFS share. > > I'd like to mount those two exports and need them to persist after a > reboot; however I don't want the server to hang at boot in case either NAS > us not available. > > So I thought using AMD might be a good idea. > > > > showmount lists both: > >> # showmount -e backup.xxxxxx >> Exports list on backup.xxxxxx: >> /i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup 192.168.109.1 >> # showmount -e backup.yyyyyyy >> Exports list on backup.yyyyyyy: >> /i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup 192.168.110.1 >> > > I can mount them both manually, but while amd will mount the first, it > won't work with the latter: > > # ls /net/192.168.109.4/i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup >> Gest0787 Gest0790 Gest0794 Gest0798 Gest0802 >> GestI0822 IT0789 IT0793 IT0797 >> IT0801 ITF0815 >> Gest0788 Gest0792 Gest0796 Gest0800 >> GestI0813 IT0785 IT0791 IT0795 IT0799 >> IT0803 ITF0821 >> # ls /net/192.168.110.3/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup >> ls: /net/192.168.110.3/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup: Input/output error >> > > Or: > >> # ls /host/backup.xxxxxx/i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup >> Gest0787 Gest0790 Gest0794 Gest0798 Gest0802 >> GestI0822 IT0789 IT0793 IT0797 >> IT0801 ITF0815 >> Gest0788 Gest0792 Gest0796 Gest0800 >> GestI0813 IT0785 IT0791 IT0795 IT0799 >> IT0803 ITF0821 >> # ls /host/backup.yyyyyyy/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup >> ls: /host/backup.yyyyyyy/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup: Input/output error >> > > In the logs I get: > >> amd[18902]: get_nfs_version NFS(3,tcp) failed for backup.yyyyyyyRPC: >> Program/version mismatch >> amd[18902]: NFS service not running on backup.yyyyyyy >> amd[18902]: initializing backup.yyyyyyy's pinger to 30 sec >> > > > As I said, I can mount them both manually with the following lines: > > backup.xxxxxx:/i-data/fe7de436/nfs/Backup /mnt/xxxxxxbackup nfs >> rw,noauto 0 0 >> backup.yyyyyyy:/i-data/f92a6a2d/nfs/backup /mnt/yyyyyyybackup nfs >> rw,noauto 0 0 >> > > > > Any help or pointer on this? > > bye & Thanks > av. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount_nfs&sektion=8&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+10.1-RELEASE See "intr" option . It can be specified in client fstab mount line , to skip unresponsive NFS server(s) . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 13:02:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85853365 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47187FF5 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iget9 with SMTP id t9so29594675ige.1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:02:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ad/9DZXGUlsXpLf2OBlFey2Cn0+VdJ7PSF2nF1FI3TE=; b=IciJyi9+8lUytJQoPjE26fNRVz3k3of3KlmJehhjLVnKUmdmeAiJuRafp9b2ZDahaF ffiNSzK/fmGoyCBXCvpRO0Dk8gGYgBXFFONumqD6KJeclGEacSeubLIb4KbOS0pxhz5p OI5HbNMQPppEXZudyDWTokQyqCGb19Oqvn2dq+SAnL2phWz178hNa1wq3VuUgIIhzIjT nGB6ta37urhKczjzoF65zKKPft/4hV0eAK55d9NTZke5xTGQc5Ik4JzdrsNuekz+Ya1J bCLZVIJlO11l9tPxoB3ZWoWFQw49kWwf0cITQuFaKd7FlpixxKJ1vFGO2I9uABWk7RgV cqbw== X-Received: by 10.42.198.143 with SMTP id eo15mr9469232icb.8.1428757345712; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.5] (cpe-76-190-244-6.neo.res.rr.com. [76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ck8sm1225007igc.21.2015.04.11.06.02.24 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55291B68.4060509@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:02:32 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> <20150411084630.7727dbd2@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150411084630.7727dbd2@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:02:26 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:31:41 -0400 > Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> I maintain 4 ports and within the last 6 months I have started >> receiving large amounts of spam on the ports maintainer email > > this is an old subject. Some harvester got registered here and collect > the address of every e-mail posted to this list. They started a long > time ago by directly answering every e-mail sent out by the list and > went now to typical spamming. > > There is no real way against this. Registration makes it more difficult > but not impossible. > > But they are very easy to filter. > >> The http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ website is being harvested for >> email addresses. >> > It is not the web-site, it is the lists from where they get the e-mail > addresses. > >> We all have personally experienced spam email. Now the volunteers who >> create and maintain the ports in the Freebsd ports collection are >> being targeted with spam. >> > They are very easy to filter. So, why bother. > > Erich > As the O.P. the maintainer email addresses are not used for every day use. There are special email addresses created just for the individual port. After updating the ports with new email addresses that have never had email traffic using them I still got spam within a few days of the the port update. This has nothing to do with the email address I use for this list. The http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ website is being harvested for email addresses. The maintainer email should not be shown to the public. 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[76.190.244.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f11sm1215571iod.7.2015.04.11.06.28.13 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55292175.3000308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 09:28:21 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Kulawiec Subject: Re: email address being harvested from ports website References: <5527D0BD.8060401@gmail.com> <20150410181255.GA2891@gsp.org> In-Reply-To: <20150410181255.GA2891@gsp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:28:15 -0000 Rich Kulawiec wrote: > This may be well-intentioned, but it demonstrates a nearly-complete > lack of understanding of how spammers' address-harvesters work. > > The techniques in use in the field are very sophisticated and unlikely to > be defeated by anyone who hasn't spent at least a decade studying them > in detail. (And even then: probably not. The existence of hundreds of > millions of 'bots changed the game markedly and there is no undoing that.) > > The ONLY reasonable course of action, at this point, is to presume that > all email addresses are either (a) in the hands of spammers or (b) will > be in their hands soon, and plan defenses accordingly. Any other approach > is doomed to fail and should be instantly dismissed with prejudice: the > only people it will impede in the slightest are non-spammers. > > ---rsk Doesn't take 10 years of study to know that any email address visible on a public website is a target for harvesting. http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ shows the ports maintainers email address. The ports maintainers email address should not be part of the Makefile, but should should stay in the ports manual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 14:45:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B842DBDC for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x233.google.com (mail-qk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A932C5F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qkhg7 with SMTP id g7so82285281qkh.2 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 07:45:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:disposition-notification-to:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=YTDdDbQxq/RZZO2LrQrQ7DvpwvmWlp0Ck/bg3fGulFU=; b=QPWXsxMxZtj0xkbas0onx5I4WWVgDdaykzZ7S9cI8AvTak9AGbDb//ZyzpCC/vTqjA A6JlPL7QfGgb3Y92XDf1sD05Io3+yb70HPPD5Pt6ZU5Vj9qSiOEQkn8fWZFH+Bv6obvx cadBGmMKgltL6vQmwZkZErLtKzlxwcugsmcSszBEjUTHXFGILV08Y04ujP1e6oySlH1h tu4fB8Q+ETpRbYZvUKsE2nBrOv9vkHV185y3jGzjCYGgCUmHX0RviGfs1JGhPZW2tSbQ yKZMyzs3P97SbvdK79NmLjLd6P/TtyopH69x+VmrDISS04RAMVNMJZugQmSHZA4yYPYn 37NA== X-Received: by 10.140.233.146 with SMTP id e140mr8216090qhc.26.1428763540901; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.123] ([179.184.51.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h52sm1516384qgf.46.2015.04.11.07.45.39 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2015 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: help with caja From: sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:45:37 -0300 Message-ID: <1428763537.59024.1.camel@lenzinote.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:45:42 -0000 Hello, I use Mate on FreeBSD, everything works, except that CAJA (fork of nautilus) shows several scsi devices that are not suposed to show, take a look at the caja picture.... Here it show 2 SCSI disks (one is a swap dataset, other a zfs cache)... If I start mate without HAL, only rightmost appears... In Hal, both devices are set to ignore... Is there a way to tell caja to ignore those SCSI disks??? Thanks in advance Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 15:54:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B907194 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2.hushmail.com [65.39.178.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hushmail.com", Issuer "smtp.hushmail.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A27E382 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C4BAA0239 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w5.hushmail.com [65.39.178.80]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id B265FA01DE; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:19:45 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:19:45 +0000 To: "Raimund Sacherer" Subject: Re: Initial request to server extremely slow after longer periods of inactivity From: opendaddy@hushmail.com In-Reply-To: <369199529.123430074.1428656504549.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> References: <20150409034121.7D7C720395@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409113928.EE31F401E4@smtp.hushmail.com> <20150409185801.1B1E9401E3@smtp.hushmail.com> <369199529.123430074.1428656504549.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20150411151945.B265FA01DE@smtp.hushmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:54:49 -0000 Hello, On 10. april 2015 at 9:01 AM, "Raimund Sacherer" wrote: > >Then what I would do in your case is open a few ssh sessions, run >top with cpu focus in one, top with IO focus in another and in a >third i would take a tcpdump written to a file. Maybe another >session with vmstat to check on pagin/pageout, etc. > >Then I'd wait the appropriate amount of time and try a web >connection, if it takes long, I'l check the top's if there is >something going on (lot's of CPU, lot's of IO, pages etc.) and >check the tcpdump in wireshark to see if there are problematic DNS >queries which maybe are timing out, etc. Wouldn't SSH sessions act as "continuous feedback loops" preventing the server from going unresponsive in the first place? Also, how can I do stuff like `traceroute` or `mtr` knowing beforehand that the server is indeed unresponsive? Since it's only unresponsive on first requests, if I send a request to check, things will have returned to normal by the time I get to run those commands. Thanks! O.D. 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Do you want that trash and/or other devices show up? If not, simply get rid of gvfs. Getting rid of gvfs also will protect your external green drives from endless repeated spin downs and spin ups. On Linux were I use lots of gvfs dependent software, I build an empty dummy package for gvfs. Upstream of some software makes gvfs an optional dependency, it e.g. is optional for Xfce4's file manager Thunar, upstream of the GNOME forks isn't that smart, for e.g. Caja and Nemo gvfs without a good reason is a hard dependency, but it's absolutely not needed, if you mount manually by command line or scripts or e.g. use Rodent to mount by mouse click and if you don't use trash, but instead delete directly. You don't need to recompile Caja without gvfs, just removing gvfs is all you need to do. 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Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 17:54:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53017D34 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EF7B106 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-6-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.6.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08F7824F87; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:54:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t3BHs0X3007344; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:54:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:54:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: arnab bhowmick Subject: Re: Need a solution for rooting issue Message-Id: <20150411195400.8b22334a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:54:10 -0000 On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:16:04 +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > hi, friends i have installed freebsd 10.1 release with kde. i am able to > access my access my account as a normal user. but when i am trying to login > as a root it saying me that "root login are not allowed". This is intended. You don't run X as root. > how can i resolve > this problem? Use "kdesu" in KDE. Also read about "su", "sudo", and "super". Those are tools to perform tasks that require root permission. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 18:05:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C0D170; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ma.sdf.org", Issuer "ma.sdf.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5576A226; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ma.sdf.org (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX1+ksxjF6/oTp3ifEPC7tJ1fFuszrhU0FMQ@ma.sdf.org [192.94.73.31]) by sdf.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t3BI5NS8024721; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:05:23 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:05:23 -0500 From: cpet To: arnab bhowmick Subject: Re: Need a solution for rooting issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: cpet@sdf.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:05:32 -0000 On 2015-04-11 12:46, arnab bhowmick wrote: > hi, friends i have installed freebsd 10.1 release with kde. i am able > to > access my access my account as a normal user. but when i am trying to > login > as a root it saying me that "root login are not allowed". how can i > resolve > this problem? > Thanks in advance > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" In practice the root user shouldn't be able to login directly and users should use sudo for that. But FreeBSD doesn't do this setup yet. I have my system setup that root is disabled and sudo only works with that. This way you can limit users to certain cmds such as user Lisa can shutdown but user bob can't, su well any user in wheel can shutdown etc.. You are of course entitled to do as you wish with your box and it's a pita how programs force this but it's for your own good. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 18:55:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D884AB0 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C5B6938 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-6-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.6.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4830324CC6; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:55:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t3BItXhU002353; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:55:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:55:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: arnab bhowmick Subject: Re: Use "kdesu" in KDE Message-Id: <20150411205533.6b65d4b3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:55:37 -0000 Re-including the mailing list, hope that's okay. On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:26:21 +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > can you explain the topic to me, friend? I currently don't have a KDE environment to check, but if I remember correctly, you simply run kdesu from the KDE "Run..." dialog or (much more comfortable) from a terminal emulator, such as Konsole or the classic xterm. This is a KDE program which will prompt for the root password and then execute the given program (and optional parameters). The "kdesu" program is part of the KDE installation. Example of how to use it from a terminal ('%' means: issued from your regular user account, '#' means: you are root): % kdesu wireshark You'll find more information here: http://www.linfo.org/kdesu.html Similarly, you can use "sudo " and "su". Examples: % cat /etc/master.passwd cat: /etc/master.passwd: Permission denied (to be expected) % sudo cat /etc/master.passwd (output appears) If you want your user to be able to use sudo as a "prefix" without entering the root password, or limit the ability to execute as root to specific programs, it's easy to achieve as explained in "man sudo" and "man sudoers". For example: If all members of the "wheel" group should be able to use "sudo" in "prefix mode" (no password needed), enable the line %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL in /usr/local/etc/sudoers. Have a look as "man visudo" as well, it's a handy utility to configure sudo. The "sudo" program needs to be installed via pkg as explained in the FreeBSD handbook's section about installing software. A similar program is "super", also worth having a look at. In case you need a longer session (the equivalent of "being logged in as root"), you can also use "su": % su - Password: # ... (you are "root" now until you type "exit" or Ctrl-D) # exit % _ (your regular user again) If you wish to preserve your user's settings, use "su -m". See "man su" for details. Note that "su" is part of the OS and is therefore available immediately. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 19:03:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF35EB97 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 858B0A00 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.154.240] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Yh0gT-0008HV-Ng; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:03:14 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t3BJ3C9Z002413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t3BJ3CF3002412; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:03:12 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Use "kdesu" in KDE Message-ID: <20150411190312.GA2366@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Polytropon , arnab bhowmick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150411205533.6b65d4b3.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20150411205533.6b65d4b3.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.154.240 Cc: arnab bhowmick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:03:23 -0000 El día Saturday, April 11, 2015 a las 08:55:33PM +0200, Polytropon escribió: > Re-including the mailing list, hope that's okay. > > On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:26:21 +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > > can you explain the topic to me, friend? > > I currently don't have a KDE environment to check, but if > I remember correctly, you simply run > > kdesu > > from the KDE "Run..." dialog or (much more comfortable) > from a terminal emulator, such as Konsole or the classic > xterm. This is a KDE program which will prompt for the > root password and then execute the given program (and > optional parameters). The "kdesu" program is part of the > KDE installation. Hmmm: $ kdesu date sh: kdesu: not found $ su Password: root@c720-r276659:/usr/home/guru # pkg-static -R /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/ install kdesu Updating repository catalogue FreeBSD repository is up-to-date All repositories are up-to-date pkg-static: No packages available to install matching 'kdesu' have been found in the repositories root@c720-r276659:/usr/home/guru # ls -l /usr/PKGDIR-20141018/kdesu* ls: No existe correspondencia. This is with 11-CUR and KDE-4.14.2 But, who needs 'kdesu' is you have a terminal, xterm, ... and 'su' matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 +49-176-38902045 "Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden." "Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias", Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 19:14:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CD97E99 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A1EFB4F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-6-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.6.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3CA327644; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:14:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t3BJEC7q002647; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:14:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:14:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Use "kdesu" in KDE Message-Id: <20150411211412.c8e802ba.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150411190312.GA2366@c720-r276659> References: <20150411205533.6b65d4b3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150411190312.GA2366@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arnab bhowmick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:14:15 -0000 On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:03:12 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hmmm: > > $ kdesu date > sh: kdesu: not found Thanks for verifying! Interesting that it's not part of KDE anymore... On the other hand, I remember that KDE had some built-in means to "switch to root" (at least on Linux), but I cannot remember where this option was located or how it was called. Interesting... > But, who needs 'kdesu' is you have a terminal, xterm, ... and 'su' Right; "su" should work for almost everything. On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 00:31:29 +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > thanks friend. But kdesu or su- is not working As we know now, "kdesu" doesn't seem to be available anymore... no idea... But you should be able to use "su" without problems. Open a terminal (KDE's "Konsole" or simply run "xterm") and enter: su root What happens? (You can copy/paste from the terminal session.) Please note: You have to add your user to the "wheel" group if you want to su to root (just entering "su" will default to root, if no other username is provided; "su -" and "su -l" means the same; see "man su" for details). In order to make this change, switch to a virtual terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+PF1 and login as root. Then enter: pw usermod -G wheel where is your own user name. You can also manually add the name to the "wheel" line in /etc/group. Then logout again ("exit"). Switch back to your X session by pressing Ctrl+Alt+PF9. The change is in effect immediately. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 19:23:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46E6EFEB for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03932C2F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-6-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.6.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02E8E24C56; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:23:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t3BJNpdW002869; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:23:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:23:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: arnab bhowmick Subject: Re: not working at all Message-Id: <20150411212351.b0a97d3d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:23:54 -0000 On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 00:47:41 +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > $ su root > su: Sorry As explained, you need to be in the "wheel" group to become root. This is an intended security barrier. Allow me to repeat from my previous message: Please note: You have to add your user to the "wheel" group if you want to su to root (just entering "su" will default to root, if no other username is provided; "su -" and "su -l" means the same; see "man su" for details). In order to make this change, switch to a virtual terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+PF1 and login as root. Then enter at the root prompt: # pw usermod -G wheel where is your own user name. You can also manually add the name to the "wheel" line in /etc/group by using your favourite editor. When done, logout again (command "exit" or Ctrl+D). Switch back to your X session by pressing Ctrl+Alt+PF9. The change is in effect immediately. * end repeat * You can check if your use is in the right group by executing $ grep /etc/group and it should appear in all required groups. Once you have successfully configured permissions for your user, using "su" will be easy and comfortable. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 19:43:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEAB3342 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79F41DE2 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-6-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.6.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3746727644; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:43:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t3BJhUpk003039; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:43:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:43:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: arnab bhowmick Subject: Re: wheel group Message-Id: <20150411214330.5ec05cbc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:43:33 -0000 On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 01:04:10 +0530, arnab bhowmick wrote: > ok.... as you explained now if i add my user to the "wheel" group then i > have to re install the whole system as their is no other way to add my user > account to the wheel group. am i wright? No. Why should that be right? It sounds totally wrong. :-) I have explained how to add your username to the "wheel" group. It's actually very easy and a one-time task. > if yes, then now i have to put the > dvd again and have to start the process from the begaining.... > [?][?] what a > boring Definitely not. Just follow the instructions provided, while carefully watching what you're doing. You don't need the installation DVD for this administration task. Please refer to the explanation provided earlier. Logging in as root at a virtual terminal and entering # pw usermod -G wheel should be sufficient. Check with % groups for your account after switching back to KDE. Again: There is NO NEED to re-install the whole system just because you add your user to an additional group. Here are a few pointers to relevant documentation: "man su" http://www.freebsddiary.org/su.php https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#idp59613648 As you can see, it's neither hard or complicated. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 20:55:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48FD1180 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1AC6E7 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([80.229.31.82]) by avasout07 with smtp id EkvJ1q0011mJoLY01kvKHU; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:55:20 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=fZwjyigF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:117 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=19pAxiUZ1PoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=Qy_mulVG7L0s4XZtw5wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13] helo=milibyte.co.uk) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Yh2Qv-0002AN-EI; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:55:17 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:55:16 +0100 Message-ID: <4358779.WdKTPnpt2K@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p9; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150411211412.c8e802ba.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20150411190312.GA2366@c720-r276659> <20150411211412.c8e802ba.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: Use "kdesu" in KDE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: arnab bhowmick , Matthias Apitz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:55:31 -0000 On Saturday 11 Apr 2015 21:14:12 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:03:12 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hmmm: > > > > > > $ kdesu date > > sh: kdesu: not found > > Thanks for verifying! Interesting that it's not part of > KDE anymore... It's still there - /usr/local/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu curlew:/home/mike% pkg which /usr/local/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu /usr/local/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu was installed by package kde-runtime-4.14.3 I think it's in libexec because it's not normally expected to be invoked from the command line but is utilised by the menu editor and ALT+F2 when you tick the box to run a program as a different user. > On the other hand, I remember that KDE had some built-in > means to "switch to root" (at least on Linux), but I > cannot remember where this option was located or how it > was called. That's kdesu > > But, who needs 'kdesu' is you have a terminal, xterm, ... and 'su' Kdesu enables you to open new windows as root without needing to mess with xhost or .Xauthority. Useful for running things like wireshark. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 21:40:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EB3D662 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x22d.google.com (mail-qk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5499CAAE for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qkhg7 with SMTP id g7so96690646qkh.2 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:40:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=650+klzzXB/u2pcx5+r5lQj+28o2HZVsUv2f/j3Elvk=; b=lc3FvVfRyXyTJKznqcnkb8aLD12wkr3NRrGaJqwvJpEq/LWIaN5dXubP/U8UNCXtx2 1N0nYnqlDCPfr7mryECqnH7w8VDwnMQSUjurfLA0PZgP5wsy/gdEd1D+b6Mvg2q0+dCS Xv4/fz1TsDow2U8dAlIs9Df9qz6jyHXjPt9w9jygHixI/sXyK3yhi2f1gRu37ktlSCMl m4khG2m7jGd13wAsyxZJurawcHHMjk/oHG+a0eu0p5q839Z6hBfaDmDZNQ0RBn39sun1 eixCdKO6aEZyAa+0dXkB0Hb5NC9rHigSVyLV0GbZNbi5BUVfz5DvERO0J8OY84Ltzu3m zlSA== X-Received: by 10.182.92.165 with SMTP id cn5mr7333135obb.10.1428788429374; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (ip174-74-97-203.om.om.cox.net. [174.74.97.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d10sm1712590obf.17.2015.04.11.14.40.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 402-578-4489 From: Lakeisha Bryant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:40:26 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:40:30 -0000 402-208-5190 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 23:01:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE929F9D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x22a.google.com (mail-qk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CA6F21B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qkx62 with SMTP id 62so99547654qkx.0 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:01:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:disposition-notification-to:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=B4TLi5u8AYco+cZr8PqdJ1JWOVjRBMRxPhjHnXlpWOs=; b=Xus1imTX/cPrqqvnUKtRNFngcJSd/dm8yWaaVFCZv7YmbNr7HJkjC1RdFa1/0uaEsy biRziAVVxd7iclYjUj5BU3Vrkfb12CsY0W3lhE6krlR5wlmmtIk1yj/Qv6ajKoD1JR6G /JB96ffQvGMBcbu5GObXG3q5nfHU1yQa76Tbs1njEXgyAy1tUrPiImRvSvmNv5aMcGRO wxi/8i7c6BEzlGytT4pro3VAfeqFcrM05/LtY16tGQQmWAOG3rEstyMYEDUInqVY+jHn QGpkNsGJVVFecSqFbzL/YNEsbbtB6xRxJU9G0gSHU0hyEVBQEY4jOIwXlvS8DG3omxi5 9H3w== X-Received: by 10.140.202.20 with SMTP id x20mr10031911qha.101.1428793292634; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.123] ([179.184.51.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 8sm2340749qkq.35.2015.04.11.16.01.31 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: help with caja, SOLVED From: sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:01:29 -0300 Message-ID: <1428793289.59024.6.camel@lenzinote.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:01:34 -0000 After searching all around I found that the problem was in the hal daemon an custom FDI file fixes the problem create a file /usr/local/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/20thirdparty/ignore_scsi.fdi with contents: ============================================================= true ============================================================= and restart hal: service hald restart after log out and log in, the bogus scsi drives are gone..