From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 01:17:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93E73901 for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 01:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vn0-x236.google.com (mail-vn0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50FE715DA for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 01:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vnbf129 with SMTP id f129so3501165vnb.1 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:17:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3ZZcp9RlaH4NWjjh8VpFzrLXwimwINcy8M4YfUTq2Ik=; b=ySXpXYUhYdGz9z4cDlv3vAVeEgrhjPLN33Bf4IkZTWmjpb+kYzyFmquodq3oOugFo2 D2d266RjYUF+MXhW5cNgCgN2/B7wWmhvkO/otg1r9nFj7qPoNvZ1T9C/4A4Cz4KKdYqR XkIERh50DrKQON1qGxsdCdFpLiVHddyU3bkIfwbFo0Onz1peDpwwvoK2vxlHfuuk2a7/ 8n0Ki5vna7vARV4m3+AAWR8N7PChyBblo4hKDcSF9upg2Nl5uGKlzz3aW3P5o8tPeaY3 YuNlXCEloTiNEYctwGeilpEgYbwm21rPiUlivFXeSF+GtnQFMS048bBVRGkMEKRgIA0t a/mQ== X-Received: by 10.52.5.2 with SMTP id o2mr13593162vdo.97.1432430265059; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:17:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.185.134 with HTTP; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:17:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Pratik Singhal Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 06:47:24 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Map virtual address to physical address To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 01:17:46 -0000 Hello, I need to convert a kernel virtual address to a physical address , as I need to program a DMA controller for the FreeBSD kernel. Is there any macro/function to do that in the FreeBSD kernel ? Regards, Pratik Singhal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 01:27:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3D789C5 for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 01:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x22f.google.com (mail-qg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEC3C16AC for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 01:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qgez61 with SMTP id z61so29377361qge.1 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:27:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/h1qoY3qp5IkY6K+hN6U9f3SMDK75gyUaEsSaXKHdg0=; b=nU0+VafwLX59WYwbdxwmavTeZgvtJZSbrmakeWsq8pSIEWhZL6Dl8GhdPo5DN0wRWO uA72ml7cO7Qpcx2RQ9Jib94JMBD0/ArgUR+6nc7XzPOytM2bbURMVg4VwQVXJKUavr7f oB673zgk3+aXPjpCecIqqj2qlk6F4PFL7rYCK/n20RFzho48XqevACg7Abz0ogw/ezLg hTOYvAeOi8zR7VlHYfwty2lpput8r7lGuFGMaYIbsxxAJETmGkgScUfKCveREN7dMdX6 pyw3XugqolA7Yrd2iWs7Cs7ZCIeur9yjQl8DJtYMNAT6G+VKx9LKW+48HnhK6FCflmtG Be6w== X-Received: by 10.140.31.54 with SMTP id e51mr19740497qge.95.1432430852865; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([209.181.150.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w17sm4228641qkw.32.2015.05.23.18.27.31 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 23 May 2015 18:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55612902.8090402@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 19:27:30 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Map virtual address to physical address References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 01:27:34 -0000 On 05/23/2015 07:17 PM, Pratik Singhal wrote: > Hello, I need to convert a kernel virtual address to a physical address , > as I need to program a DMA controller for the FreeBSD kernel. > > Is there any macro/function to do that in the FreeBSD kernel ? > > Regards, > Pratik Singhal > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > See macro vtop From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 01:38:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E823BB9F for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 01:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vn0-x22b.google.com (mail-vn0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A261A179E for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 01:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vnbf62 with SMTP id f62so3496096vnb.7 for ; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=y4P8iGW0wMNYYe3Q4yW8J7pHc6ygY3GRyxEdySnYAXQ=; b=IHISYtHcUyP23alw/FrliBaCFtqoJuKNeetZyjDYwMXZKxY1cEntA/NyrBqlirx43y 7p1iXdBu/zwkohd79esqOcbG8VmcnarAHOz5XJs7QXas+qV6Xe2HeaRctQ83PFEnWEip IobNsJpY03YBbZS+SI3Z/uH6mRbEd2PS3HeO8UCyqkFb4fLYyE6GMfFSMDEbJKkupQS6 w6ou9/cqex46hLZKgJ7IpWmTxeQ/x3GuJ6qparrcPYi3bE3kTX5+phHJOEFelSyq2r4v sIKkvw/DqKuh3yyWJbFG4yqpU0Kx6OFrQcIgY03nHaqrP/J/72QnxKHJjc30gaOq3QvC cvWg== X-Received: by 10.52.77.69 with SMTP id q5mr13898238vdw.29.1432431534376; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.185.134 with HTTP; Sat, 23 May 2015 18:38:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55612902.8090402@gmail.com> References: <55612902.8090402@gmail.com> From: Pratik Singhal Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 07:08:33 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Map virtual address to physical address To: jd1008 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 01:38:56 -0000 Can you please tell in which header file is it declared ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 04:00:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D14F715B for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 04:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20B916DB for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 04:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id t4O40gFm033253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 23 May 2015 21:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id t4O40fio033252; Sat, 23 May 2015 21:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA14273; Sat, 23 May 15 20:36:18 PDT Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 20:36:17 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: ps06756@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jd1008@gmail.com Subject: Re: Map virtual address to physical address Message-Id: <55614731.qluRRaPx6vh/ONPm%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <55612902.8090402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 04:00:48 -0000 Pratik Singhal wrote: > Can you please tell in which header file is it declared ? find(1) and xargs(1) are your friends: find /usr/include /usr/src/sys -type f -name '*.h' -print0 \ | xargs -0 egrep -i vtop | less That will give you the correct answer(s) for whichever version of the source you are working with. (Shell command and continuation-line prompts not shown, since they depend on which shell you are using.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 17:29:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F66C5AF for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 17:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D7BA1BA2 for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 17:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.143] ([95.91.226.162]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDE6y-1YvWSv2vgy-00Gafs; Sun, 24 May 2015 19:29:41 +0200 Message-ID: <55620A84.1090607@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 19:29:40 +0200 From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: CPU frequency doesn't drop below 1200MHz (like it used to) References: <555C71C8.4080007@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <555C71C8.4080007@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:/VTQQqzrb63AXOVTy1rhWGHXin53RdJadwAs73ZQD67DkGfGR4N PWUH//BPjYtPw8/XHXsoQoeCPC/mAFy5ekeldLwqhqANa0CfY241/1fu40yDc7gJ7qenRfy raPtuM2E4myra+YR+LMF61JQhBoSRyv2O/6ZuN16L62LcSIRcLjeZdqomTX0+h3KcCYu7tA Fsk9bou5Qp8Myo/IiP/jg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:29:51 -0000 On 05/20/15 13:36, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hi, > > I just noticed that my CPU's frequency doesn't support dropping > below 1200MHz. It used to be able to go down to 150MHz, if I am > not mistaken. I'd like it to go down to 600MHz via powerd, like > it used to go. This is a month's old 10-STABLE. > >> [nik@moby ~]$ sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels >> dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2400/35000 2300/32872 2200/31127 2100/29417 >> 2000/27740 1900/26096 1800/24490 1700/22588 1600/21045 1500/19534 >> 1400/18055 1300/16611 1200/15194 > > Thanks in advance for any ideas, > Nikos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > That's ok. Your lowest possible speed is: 1200/15194 So 1200MHz is ok. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20150502234245.e1098b2a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.4.185 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 09:20:44 -0000 El día Saturday, May 02, 2015 a las 11:42:45PM +0200, Polytropon escribió: > On Sat, 2 May 2015 16:55:00 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > I have an old VT100 terminal and want this connect to a laptop running > > FreeBSD which has only USB ports (just for fun to participate in some > > Vintage Computer Festival). Anybody knows a good adapter which works > > with our uplcom(4) driver? > > I'd be interested in that topic, too. I have the DEC vt101 > which still works (tested with _real_ serial port), but > as serial ports are vanishing on desktops, and are being > nonexistent on laptops, this would be a nice recipe to > have in order to bring a piece of museum art back to life. I have it connected today via the USB-to-serial adapter and it is mostly working fine; the /etc/ttys line is: cuaU0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt102 on secure what is working: - I can login as 'root' and run for hours something like 'ls -lR /' (just to check the serial output) what is not working: - if I login as any other unpriv user (and I created a new one for this) it hangs after presenting the /etc/motd file; it just hangs login: valentin Password: ..... Last login: .... FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT (GENERIC) #1 r276659M: Tue Apr 28 15:50:23 CEST 2015 Welcome to FreeBSD! (hanging) a ps shows: 2293 U0 Is+ 0:00,05 login [pam] (login) 2294 U0 I+ 0:00,01 -sh (sh) and when I fire up a truss command on the shell proc it gives the output below and the session on the VT102 goes on and all is working fine. What could cause this? Thanks matthias # truss -p 2294 2>> tty.txt # cat tty.txt ioctl(0,TIOCGETA,0xbfbfed00) = 0 (0x0) fcntl(0,0x11,0xa) = 10 (0xa) ioctl(10,TIOCGPGRP,0xbfbfed34) = 0 (0x0) getpgrp() = 2293 (0x8f5) sigaction(SIGTSTP,0x0,{ SIG_IGN SA_RESTART ss_t }) = 0 (0x0) sigaction(SIGTTOU,0x0,{ SIG_IGN 0x0 ss_t }) = 0 (0x0) sigaction(SIGTTIN,0x0,{ SIG_IGN 0x0 ss_t }) = 0 (0x0) sigaction(SIGTTIN,{ SIG_DFL 0x0 ss_t },0x0) = 0 (0x0) setpgid(0x0,0x8f6,0xa,0x0,0xbfbfee00,0xbfbfed70) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(10,TIOCSPGRP,0xbfbfed34) = 0 (0x0) __getcwd("/usr/home/valentin",256) = 0 (0x0) stat("/var/mail/valentin",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=1767799,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) open("/etc/profile",O_CLOEXEC,00) = 3 (0x3) read(3,"# $FreeBSD: head/etc/profile 208"...,1024) = 616 (0x268) read(3,0x28879600,1024) = 0 (0x0) close(3) = 0 (0x0) open("/home/valentin/.profile",O_CLOEXEC,00) = 3 (0x3) read(3,"# $FreeBSD: head/share/skel/dot."...,1024) = 810 (0x32a) stat("/usr/games/fortune",{ mode=-r-xr-xr-x ,inode=1365149,size=18808,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) eaccess(0x28889438,0x1,0x0,0x2,0x4e,0x14d49d) = 0 (0x0) geteuid() = 1002 (0x3ea) fork() = 2300 (0x8fc) setpgid(0x8fc,0x8fc,0x0,0x1,0x0,0x0) ERR#13 'Permission denied' wait4(-1,{ EXITED,val=0 },WUNTRACED|WCONTINUED,0x0) = 2300 (0x8fc) ioctl(10,TIOCSPGRP,0xbfbfeb98) = 0 (0x0) read(3,0x28879600,1024) = 0 (0x0) close(3) = 0 (0x0) open("/home/valentin/.shrc",O_CLOEXEC,00) = 3 (0x3) read(3,"# $FreeBSD: head/share/skel/dot."...,1024) = 971 (0x3cb) issetugid(0x281f7000,0x2814b41e,0x28148eee,0x281491ee,0x28,0x2814785e) = 0 (0x0) open("/home/valentin/.editrc",O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' read(3,0x28879600,1024) = 0 (0x0) close(3) = 0 (0x0) wait4(-1,0xbfbfecc4,WNOHANG|WUNTRACED|WCONTINUED,0x0) ERR#10 'No child processes' stat("/var/mail/valentin",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=1767799,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGWINCH,0x0) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCGWINSZ,0xbfbfeca8) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGWINCH,0x0) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCGWINSZ,0xbfbfec58) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) fstat(2,{ mode=crw------- ,inode=117,size=0,blksize=4096 }) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(2,TIOCGETA,0xbfbfeac0) = 0 (0x0) write(2,"$ ",2) = 2 (0x2) ioctl(0,TIOCGETA,0x2880d4d4) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCSETAW,0x2880d4a8) = 0 (0x0) read(0,"l",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"l",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"s",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"s",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"\n",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"\n",1) = 1 (0x1) ioctl(0,TIOCSETAW,0x2880d47c) = 0 (0x0) stat("/sbin/ls",0xbfbfeb48) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/bin/ls",{ mode=-r-xr-xr-x ,inode=963101,size=27268,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) fork() = 2301 (0x8fd) setpgid(0x8fd,0x8fd,0x200,0x1,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) wait4(-1,{ EXITED,val=0 },WUNTRACED|WCONTINUED,0x0) = 2301 (0x8fd) ioctl(10,TIOCSPGRP,0xbfbfeba8) = 0 (0x0) wait4(-1,0xbfbfecc4,WNOHANG|WUNTRACED|WCONTINUED,0x0) ERR#10 'No child processes' stat("/var/mail/valentin",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=1767799,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGWINCH,0x0) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCGWINSZ,0xbfbfeca8) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGWINCH,0x0) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCGWINSZ,0xbfbfec58) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) write(2,"$ ",2) = 2 (0x2) ioctl(0,TIOCGETA,0x2880d4d4) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCSETAW,0x2880d4a8) = 0 (0x0) read(0,"l",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"l",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"s",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"s",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0," ",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2," ",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"/",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"/",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"t",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"t",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"m",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"m",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"p",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"p",1) = 1 (0x1) read(0,"\n",1) = 1 (0x1) write(2,"\n",1) = 1 (0x1) ioctl(0,TIOCSETAW,0x2880d47c) = 0 (0x0) fork() = 2302 (0x8fe) setpgid(0x8fe,0x8fe,0x200,0x1,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) wait4(-1,{ EXITED,val=0 },WUNTRACED|WCONTINUED,0x0) = 2302 (0x8fe) ioctl(10,TIOCSPGRP,0xbfbfeba8) = 0 (0x0) wait4(-1,0xbfbfecc4,WNOHANG|WUNTRACED|WCONTINUED,0x0) ERR#10 'No child processes' stat("/var/mail/valentin",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=1767799,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGWINCH,0x0) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCGWINSZ,0xbfbfeca8) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK,SIGWINCH,0x0) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCGWINSZ,0xbfbfec58) = 0 (0x0) sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK,0x0,0x0) = 0 (0x0) write(2,"$ ",2) = 2 (0x2) ioctl(0,TIOCGETA,0x2880d4d4) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(0,TIOCSETAW,0x2880d4a8) = 0 (0x0) -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 +49-176-38902045 "Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden." 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[172.27.2.50] ([107.145.15.87]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M7Imm-1ZJA3M0PIM-00x4Ri for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 12:38:30 +0200 Message-ID: <5562FBA4.3040608@wholesum.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 06:38:28 -0400 From: Nikolai Wendorf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg upgrade problem References: <5557D47D.2030301@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <5557D47D.2030301@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:aHs1s3gBh+mXW1DyW1uyAk/sanG+UgzhajKX3LXKx6ZPvbfH9G4 WYqLuo3GjETK/zHRdM9DeLjS6NyHeriDmtkvELb1BuH42Mzm/cabZkaXe57JsdTnn2XvNBR 8EwwOg3r5ryWDVjGWnFDfJcX7rNqS6+Y0R7dQO6PeoKyTcT9AiijDm2u/cZGHmYmpjuq4Ob Q/S+xdz6MtbLo9ZoUR7gQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:43:48 -0000 I'm seeing the same thing on this machine: 1>uname -a FreeBSD kolia.dunhurtin.net 8.4-STABLE FreeBSD 8.4-STABLE #0 r283273: Fri May 22 07:43:52 EDT 2015 root@kolia.dunhurtin.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KOLIA i386 I did a pkg delete on libreoffice but it didn't help - it went on to issue the same message regarding octave which I also deleted (had been meaning to anyway). When I had begun the first round of updating I noticed pkg update itself to the current version. I also ran pkg updating that day to see if there were any upgrade instructions I'd missed - didn't notice any though root@kolia:~ # pkg upgrade Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... Fetching meta.txz: 100% 968 B 1.0kB/s 00:01 Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 5 MiB 5.3MB/s 00:01 Processing entries: 100% FreeBSD repository update completed. 23867 packages processed. Checking for upgrades (713 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (713 candidates): 100% pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: upgrade rule: upgrade local apache-openoffice-4.1.1_8 to remote apache-openoffice-4.1.1_9 cannot install package apache-openoffice, remove it from request? [Y/n]: n pkg: cannot solve job using SAT solver root@kolia:~ # pkg -v 1.5.2 Nick On 5/16/2015 7:35 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I just tried to do a 'pkg upgrade -y' from the console CLI as root. I > redirected all output to a file, which I list below: > > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 6:40:13pm] 333 % cat LIST.pkg-upgrade.May2015.txt > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz... done > Fetching packagesite.txz... done > Processing entries... done > FreeBSD repository update completed. 23971 packages processed. > Checking for upgrades (536 candidates)... done > Processing candidates (536 candidates)... done > pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: > pkg: cannot find libreoffice in the request > pkg: cannot solve job using SAT solver > [root@kabini1, /etc, 6:40:16pm] 334 % > > I had cleaned out the /var/db/pkg/ directory of old repo data & meta > data. How do I work around this ? Is this a problem w/ remote repos, > or something at my end (possibly including pilot error :-/ ) ? TIA & > have a nice weekend .... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 11:04:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D00B8D2 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 11:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x234.google.com (mail-ig0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC1946C0 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 11:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by igbpi8 with SMTP id pi8so35255809igb.0 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 04:04:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xetBQG2grYuF6Q/NN5i1dtyyJO8ywBCgt33TQL4VyOo=; b=z1PX+NnGM95faFAbttEQICY2Dq5okJnRQI0/Mz49Uo1n4NBeTK5WWUt4aypWKTh7SI rs0Owb6DLrhJU8bwYDymdjeM8WKNEYFDT1S3MQvjlwJMnah94fQGbJOpEu5GxSVi8gDT 83leHYDbty9mUnJVwC9DXmBQpRLGUBjTnjcoNbBvAJiYEl3MHxO3GVNRL9eTDYKE/HD5 ywpefMdn0ZcEEM9EwvyGE/J8d9CRnKSGfEkFYw6BLmz0C32W+3C5e14GjvpOe23An4Qv MtPiwzDUGxyRiEroGsS3OUMPdVwyqqqFSRC53uPAkis/e3lEeVyELKMhtS/R8/bJNBYO 3lkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.6.65 with SMTP id oj1mr23069149icb.75.1432551866088; Mon, 25 May 2015 04:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.236.10 with HTTP; Mon, 25 May 2015 04:04:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5562FBA4.3040608@wholesum.net> References: <5557D47D.2030301@hiwaay.net> <5562FBA4.3040608@wholesum.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 19:04:26 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg upgrade problem From: Ben Woods To: Nikolai Wendorf Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:04:27 -0000 On 25 May 2015 at 18:38, Nikolai Wendorf wrote: > I'm seeing the same thing on this machine: > 1>uname -a > FreeBSD kolia.dunhurtin.net 8.4-STABLE FreeBSD 8.4-STABLE #0 r283273: Fri > May 22 07:43:52 EDT 2015 root@kolia.dunhurtin.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KOLIA > i386 > > I did a pkg delete on libreoffice but it didn't help - it went on to issue > the same message regarding octave which I also deleted (had been meaning to > anyway). When I had begun the first round of updating I noticed pkg update > itself to the current version. > > I also ran pkg updating that day to see if there were any upgrade > instructions I'd missed - didn't notice any though > > root@kolia:~ # pkg upgrade > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz: 100% 968 B 1.0kB/s 00:01 > Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 5 MiB 5.3MB/s 00:01 > Processing entries: 100% > FreeBSD repository update completed. 23867 packages processed. > Checking for upgrades (713 candidates): 100% > Processing candidates (713 candidates): 100% > pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: > upgrade rule: upgrade local apache-openoffice-4.1.1_8 to remote > apache-openoffice-4.1.1_9 > cannot install package apache-openoffice, remove it from request? [Y/n]: n > pkg: cannot solve job using SAT solver > > root@kolia:~ # pkg -v > 1.5.2 > > Nick > You should be able to resolve it by using the following commands: # pkg check -Ba # pkg upgrade -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 11:45:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F4D77D5 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 11:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick@wholesum.net) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.perfora.net", Issuer "Thawte SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46A68DA for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 11:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick@wholesum.net) Received: from [172.27.2.50] ([107.145.15.87]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lwpo6-1ZCV2I3TVQ-016Oaz for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 13:45:06 +0200 Message-ID: <55630B41.7010403@wholesum.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 07:45:05 -0400 From: Nikolai Wendorf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg upgrade problem References: <5557D47D.2030301@hiwaay.net> <5562FBA4.3040608@wholesum.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hhTUG7EkGstNaqSujuHzvH7NjjzZMXa835sUJPgZv1U5UHTz8FK mjJ3L3hxVT2vKCeoLgum8OThLhkxORgTUW50baJ4dQBY2C+KyCYjyoqrkIo0yN4OvQEO23c Ns+XiAu49+453gDZiGJSLYdM027nnKbeQuUjjB5lu6drgWiCK8Vj/IVWENbupUgZkVF55LN xQygQtmXR3fVT4p64LFHA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:45:08 -0000 Thank you sir! That did the trick. Nick On 5/25/2015 7:04 AM, Ben Woods wrote: > On 25 May 2015 at 18:38, Nikolai Wendorf wrote: >> I'm seeing the same thing on this machine: >> 1>uname -a >> FreeBSD kolia.dunhurtin.net 8.4-STABLE FreeBSD 8.4-STABLE #0 r283273: Fri >> May 22 07:43:52 EDT 2015 root@kolia.dunhurtin.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KOLIA >> i386 >> >> I did a pkg delete on libreoffice but it didn't help - it went on to issue >> the same message regarding octave which I also deleted (had been meaning to >> anyway). When I had begun the first round of updating I noticed pkg update >> itself to the current version. >> >> I also ran pkg updating that day to see if there were any upgrade >> instructions I'd missed - didn't notice any though >> >> root@kolia:~ # pkg upgrade >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> Fetching meta.txz: 100% 968 B 1.0kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 5 MiB 5.3MB/s 00:01 >> Processing entries: 100% >> FreeBSD repository update completed. 23867 packages processed. >> Checking for upgrades (713 candidates): 100% >> Processing candidates (713 candidates): 100% >> pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver: >> upgrade rule: upgrade local apache-openoffice-4.1.1_8 to remote >> apache-openoffice-4.1.1_9 >> cannot install package apache-openoffice, remove it from request? [Y/n]: n >> pkg: cannot solve job using SAT solver >> >> root@kolia:~ # pkg -v >> 1.5.2 >> >> Nick >> > You should be able to resolve it by using the following commands: > # pkg check -Ba > # pkg upgrade > > -- > From: Benjamin Woods > woodsb02@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 14:05:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC81F1FF for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 14:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A83A08E4 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 14:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [93.104.4.185] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ywt0I-000230-Bp; Mon, 25 May 2015 16:05:18 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4PE5GXM001873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 May 2015 16:05:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t4PE5FAu001872; Mon, 25 May 2015 16:05:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 16:05:15 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Subject: Re: USB to serial adapter Message-ID: <20150525140515.GA1860@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon References: <20150502145500.GA2402@c720-r276659> <20150502234245.e1098b2a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150525092026.GA2429@c720-r276659> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20150525092026.GA2429@c720-r276659> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.4.185 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 14:05:23 -0000 El día Monday, May 25, 2015 a las 11:20:26AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > I have it connected today via the USB-to-serial adapter and it is mostly > working fine; > > the /etc/ttys line is: > cuaU0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt102 on secure > > what is working: > > - I can login as 'root' and run for hours something like 'ls -lR /' > (just to check the serial output) > > what is not working: > > - if I login as any other unpriv user (and I created a new one for this) > it hangs after presenting the /etc/motd file; it just hangs > > login: valentin > Password: ..... > > Last login: .... > FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT (GENERIC) #1 r276659M: Tue Apr 28 15:50:23 CEST 2015 > > Welcome to FreeBSD! > > (hanging) I figured out what is causing it: the type of the login shell; it works with /bin/csh, it does not work with /bin/sh. Any ideas? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 +49-176-38902045 "Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden." "Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias", Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 18:10:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62A3E896 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 18:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E76B9B7 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 18:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.138.32] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ywwpc-0004eX-Uc; Mon, 25 May 2015 20:10:33 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4PIAUDB002094 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 May 2015 20:10:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t4PIATb7002093; Mon, 25 May 2015 20:10:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 20:10:29 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Subject: Re: USB to serial adapter Message-ID: <20150525181029.GA2032@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon References: <20150502145500.GA2402@c720-r276659> <20150502234245.e1098b2a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150525092026.GA2429@c720-r276659> <20150525140515.GA1860@c720-r276659> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20150525140515.GA1860@c720-r276659> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 18:10:37 -0000 El día Monday, May 25, 2015 a las 04:05:15PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > what is not working: > > > > - if I login as any other unpriv user (and I created a new one for this) > > it hangs after presenting the /etc/motd file; it just hangs > > > > login: valentin > > Password: ..... > > > > Last login: .... > > FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT (GENERIC) #1 r276659M: Tue Apr 28 15:50:23 CEST 2015 > > > > Welcome to FreeBSD! > > > > (hanging) > > I figured out what is causing it: the type of the login shell; it works > with /bin/csh, it does not work with /bin/sh. I have two more observations on this: - when it hangs in the login shell /bin/sh, a Ctrl-C on the terminal cancels the hang and a new login: appears; - regardless of the shell, if one starts the MUA 'mutt' (an alpha-mode MUA) and below this a 'vim' to write the mail, on return from 'vim' to 'mutt' (the vim is already terminated as process) the 'mutt' hangs too and on Ctrl-C it resumes normal operation; I will file a bug issue, even if I don't know exactly for which component. The system is 11-CURRENT from January of this year, compiled from SVN source. The ports are anyway, because it is reproducible with the base system on login with /bin/sh as login shell. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 +49-176-38902045 "Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden." "Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias", Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 21:28:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A29DEBA8 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 21:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673C1F65 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 21:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:39265] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CE/78-10080-1A393655; Mon, 25 May 2015 21:26:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Ywztg-0001Gw-RH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 May 2015 17:26:56 -0400 Message-ID: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 17:26:55 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 21:28:10 -0000 I am looking for a way to install release-10.1 onto ZFS. Are there any Howtos available? I have found wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot. I think it is out of date as it is using fixit. I am looking for something that I can use that drops to manually partitioning during the install. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 22:43:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D53FBFD0 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from out-004.ord.mailroute.net (004.ord.mailroute.net [199.89.2.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0A023CF for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by out-004.ord.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lwYJz5SDJz3tZr0; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:40:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from out-004.ord.mailroute.net ([199.89.2.7]) by localhost (004.ord.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id grG3L_tL1Tj2; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by out-004.ord.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lwYJk24KFz3tZq7; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2BDCC2CCD; Mon, 25 May 2015 15:39:47 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Baho Utot Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.2.8.5; tzolkin = 5 Chicchan; haab = 13 Zip Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 15:39:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> (Baho Utot's message of "Mon, 25 May 2015 17:26:55 -0400") Message-ID: <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 22:43:42 -0000 >>>>> "Baho" == Baho Utot writes: Baho> I think it is out of date as it is using fixit. Wait... when did fixit go away? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 22:49:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF43F115 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2977401 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:39300] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id FF/B4-19937-0E6A3655; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:49:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yx1BA-0001Ih-Hi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 May 2015 18:49:04 -0400 Message-ID: <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 18:49:04 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 22:49:07 -0000 On 05/25/15 18:39, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Baho" == Baho Utot writes: > Baho> I think it is out of date as it is using fixit. > > Wait... when did fixit go away? > Since sysinstall became bsdinstall????? Or maybe I am confused? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 22:49:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6E4F1A9 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0F2A5E5 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 22:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by igbhj9 with SMTP id hj9so46163009igb.1 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 15:49:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3Fi/WofZc1zJj/eGx2Q3XbJ2nSrE6hIXNWQeAXV+xGY=; b=KIyQFOIdDxiKjqIYXjQmI3r0MDYj5RcH9L7jQgCVqwjuLx3AS++UW02+zFyT7cYN/I QUDYkyxv7aOOW+ZqRJmsECM2AOudOSRxc69oaYo/oVqv0nvrDID/mbrSVSFFbMUq30c8 /ZizAPhUt3dJ+HS2ISCoQeE9LnIHOOaSdCz3L5A6h94k126M4xoO0Zmq5sxvFgaFRPyp FoMgH6CJSAz+kPOyn5DEF1rxv0dvz4kzCDm01kdO9/ikxnAkcmdlonqjhRetxuxeWTwy uPzr7tM6YU6gq1FBQ9hlG4IxqRV88AtYqU5FMtMJXIZSv2po2pcYj+wXI354JwIfafTX sB+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.171.202 with SMTP id nv10mr26537641icc.30.1432594174160; Mon, 25 May 2015 15:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.236.10 with HTTP; Mon, 25 May 2015 15:49:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 06:49:34 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS From: Ben Woods To: Baho Utot Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 22:49:35 -0000 On Tuesday, May 26, 2015, Baho Utot wrote: > I am looking for a way to install release-10.1 onto ZFS. > Are there any Howtos available? > > I have found wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot. > > I think it is out of date as it is using fixit. > > I am looking for something that I can use that drops to manually > partitioning during the install. > If you would also like it encrypted, then you can follow this guide: http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/from-trenches-tips-tricks-edition.html Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 00:43:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 628975FA for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 00:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from out-002.ord.mailroute.net (002.ord.mailroute.net [199.89.2.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DD301FE for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 00:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by out-002.ord.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lwbzm65Xwz5vw7; Tue, 26 May 2015 00:40:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from out-002.ord.mailroute.net ([199.89.2.5]) by localhost (002.ord.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id zljyPWRPNj4S; Tue, 26 May 2015 00:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by out-002.ord.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lwbzk0CvQz5vgy; Tue, 26 May 2015 00:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2FEF72D42; Mon, 25 May 2015 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Baho Utot Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.2.8.5; tzolkin = 5 Chicchan; haab = 13 Zip Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 17:40:15 -0700 In-Reply-To: <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> (Baho Utot's message of "Mon, 25 May 2015 18:49:04 -0400") Message-ID: <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 00:43:54 -0000 >>>>> "Baho" == Baho Utot writes: >> Wait... when did fixit go away? >> Baho> Since sysinstall became bsdinstall????? Baho> Or maybe I am confused? Or maybe I'm also confused. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 01:08:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0A2D9D2 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 01:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2CD18BB for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 01:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-181-19.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.181.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B90DF3CCCD; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:08:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t4Q18C78002313; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:08:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 03:08:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Cc: Baho Utot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS Message-Id: <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 01:08:23 -0000 On Mon, 25 May 2015 17:40:15 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Baho" == Baho Utot writes: > > >> Wait... when did fixit go away? > >> > > Baho> Since sysinstall became bsdinstall????? > > Baho> Or maybe I am confused? > > Or maybe I'm also confused. The bsdinstall "Welcome Menu" offers the choice "Shell" which should offer a functionality similar to the choice "Fixit" in sysinstall. The documentation also suggests that the single user mode, as well as the "Live CD" choice, could be used - at least that's why I understand from the description provided in the handbook. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html#bsdinstall-choose-mode https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html#sysinstall-main3 -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 01:08:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6D03A23 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 01:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 912788BC for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 01:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 80) id BC01B592AD82; Mon, 25 May 2015 18:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [2001:470:67:119::4]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 25 May 2015 18:08:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 18:08:25 -0700 Message-ID: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? 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Thanks! --=20 David=20Benfell --=_0_4RYJcVOoPaCyB0VdiX3Ui Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJVY8eJAAoJEBV64x4SNmArv+oQAKcAXIDkEjpn1m6y9Vv2Bpfq xE/M6JLHd1IdKr4JhhJU3MUl+rRcOi7wcCtTzSHXUlPqlZPeHNy7vghS+pZq4vA0 rE1/9+NuBRK4wfG94BPMmlcYOi2HFkU4Kinsc02tUoUmrKbwmu6DqrlGrGcJY5YK 1zIriodwlh29V/h0qXxkeQFhrrUj4e71vjbylQk+D5OGroJvvvL/Mxw6K9iYTO3z 1mqVeMdTlEDn6Z1G66o44KW6uhPg8d0CQpfmczoXtNhcQkM4NSX2mEh66rx7wh4e EMMu5VnWnXwjAQ8TgVxuAHVI0qB9yCQw9Ij0gOpAqYfwpU+ocfyg9PTPvlduUq6w t89ijbrzvdwqCKMQuQEbnyZdS+8HtvHQ/i8dw7cIEvuaCcUbfhR4gM76hgvLjlOX Oo50DZj24u9ZCLUctwyaNlSzTMdYMMfDDKbl/V634bVsmIkHcPvHHoaqyQVY1dt7 G55Xnk9PevgXareIxQ35T6jx6uCuDer6rlksjfJsWx7gsK44+yEYd8W2kg40rPLj cyiSLn8redhcghraLfvSaoAMT/9zUSkfcav6VE3ogLnebf7jxgpbnupsE/4iX0D3 NZyqgfvO2HHfsHjGSlpY/xRdz8zFEBVW1qMu46Vhfu17md7s2B5NDVjcQ4lXmyep t7tCSVdZQcH7V6RcRrnA =dfgl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_0_4RYJcVOoPaCyB0VdiX3Ui-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 03:48:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1469080D for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.157]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1FCE1BB for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=JF/DHocUDzhWGw/+sk5DiX/M1h9cYDcDndsz2wNuIXp4zmByGzq6wRL0mw6Kpyk/G+Yny44NQPry N4fC3gPl+d17YbvJGpuMetZnZVBFsXnuXXkR82L7h2afxZfJP4Ki Received: from WorkBox.Home (184-100-70-168.mpls.qwest.net [184.100.70.168]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1432612071544267.5426818457237; Mon, 25 May 2015 20:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 22:47:48 -0500 From: Brandon Wandersee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS Message-ID: <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 03:48:00 -0000 On 05/26, Polytropon wrote: > > The bsdinstall "Welcome Menu" offers the choice "Shell" > which should offer a functionality similar to the choice > "Fixit" in sysinstall. The documentation also suggests > that the single user mode, as well as the "Live CD" > choice, could be used - at least that's why I understand > from the description provided in the handbook. > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html#bsdinstall-choose-mode > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html#sysinstall-main3 It's my understanding that "Live CD" is the equivalent of Fixit: a clean, single-user environment that can be used for system maintenance. "Shell" on the other hand is tied to the installation environment, so that actions taken there are recognized by the installer. In any case, if the OP has some patience and a spare disk, it's less risky (though more time-consuming) to install a new system, configure it, then set up a new disk with ZFS and transfer the system via rsync. That's what I did anyway, since it grants the convenience of a) having a working system in the meantime, and b) leaves a spare copy of the system at hand at all times (in adition to the requisite backup, that is). -- =========================================== :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@zoho.com :: =========================================== "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 03:57:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2F7AA5A for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A016B5F4 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4594440E789; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:57:25 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1432612644; x=1434427045; bh=Xt8bhB80r ANg+fkiEF1j28MTzgDugJibTLhq5wwXOsk=; b=EC+qB//2/wwBGSLVjyP0FOxFy yyDAWf+AFMlLXSs3gylamjsovMcIGnv0Uc/KpubutEGD/eGhqT+mUORqAv7j4h+X fj6MJkzOBWv4LEZeTYwrRZwH+pu3PBPXQHIKEHErSg6XWp+y7ZkJ5cEjeTKet4XF kDZQuNURanEXvaLD64= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id NfPMoZpBH10d; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:57:24 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BDA140E784; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:57:24 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id t4Q3vQ4Q091843; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:57:26 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: Brandon Wandersee Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS In-Reply-To: <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> (message from Brandon Wandersee on Mon, 25 May 2015 22:47:48 -0500) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:57:26 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 03:57:53 -0000 >> The bsdinstall "Welcome Menu" offers the choice "Shell" >> which should offer a functionality similar to the choice >> "Fixit" in sysinstall. The documentation also suggests >> that the single user mode, as well as the "Live CD" >> choice, could be used - at least that's why I understand >> from the description provided in the handbook. >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html#bsdinstall-choose-mode >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html#sysinstall-main3 > > It's my understanding that "Live CD" is the equivalent of Fixit: a clean, > single-user environment that can be used for system maintenance. "Shell" on the > other hand is tied to the installation environment, so that actions taken there > are recognized by the installer. > > In any case, if the OP has some patience and a spare disk, it's less risky > (though more time-consuming) to install a new system, configure it, then set up > a new disk with ZFS and transfer the system via rsync. That's what I did anyway, > since it grants the convenience of a) having a working system in the meantime, > and b) leaves a spare copy of the system at hand at all times (in adition to the > requisite backup, that is). Plus, if you have your data on a disk (disk or partition) different from your system, you don't even need to rsync; just reboot with the new system disk and the old data disk. Olivier -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 06:29:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24B14412 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 06:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0713CF5 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 06:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local ([192.168.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t4Q6TNjk058644 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 07:29:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t4Q6TNjk058644 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t4Q6TNjk058644; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [192.168.100.2] claimed to be liminal.local Message-ID: <556412B9.7000508@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 07:29:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? References: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tIEPVvloFgeHQKPjL6R467aHbpQim442W" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 06:29:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --tIEPVvloFgeHQKPjL6R467aHbpQim442W Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/05/2015 02:08, David Benfell wrote: > My websites are down. It has taken me forever to figure out that php is= > seg-faulting because I never know where to find the core dumps. I tried= > accessing the dump with gdb but it just hangs after telling me that it > seg-faulted. >=20 > Is anyone else running into this? Have you gotten through it? What do I= > need to fix and how? There are two reasons why php may continually segfault: * Load order of extensions in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini * Having a mixture of PHP modules with and without Zend thread safety enabled. In the first case -- which I can't recall seeing any reports of in the last few years, so it might actually have been fixed somehow -- it's a matter of taking out some modules from extensions.ini until you can isolate the one that triggers the crash, and then re-inserting it sufficiently early in the order. In the second case, you need consistent ZTS settings in all your PHP packages, including the base language and such things as www/mod_php55. Check the contents of /usr/local/lib/php. There will be a directory for loadable modules called eg. either '20121212' or '20121212-zts.' You certainly shouldn't have both. To cure this problem, you will need to reinstall as many of the php packages as necessary to ensure consistent settings: it may be easier just to reinstall everything PHP related. 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Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 11:32:46 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 08:33:33 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: David Benfell Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:08 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? > My websites are down. It has taken me forever to figure out that php > is seg-faulting because I never know where to find the core dumps. I > tried accessing the dump with gdb but it just hangs after telling me > that it seg-faulted. > Is anyone else running into this? Have you gotten through it? What do > I need to fix and how? It's pretty often the recode extension that needs to be on top of the extensions list (php reinstall/rebuild rearranges the extensions to the install order.) I've seen this less once I decoupled php and apache and started running php in fcgi mode, but the problem still can rear it's ugly head. This might help for starters; below is my extensions.ini. I also keep a copy in /usr/local/etc/php and just copy it over once rebuild is done. Of course our used extensions differ a bit, but this might help as a starting point. extension=recode.so extension=session.so extension=memcached.so extension=suhosin.so extension=bcmath.so extension=bz2.so extension=calendar.so extension=ctype.so extension=dba.so extension=exif.so extension=fileinfo.so extension=filter.so extension=ftp.so extension=gettext.so extension=hash.so extension=iconv.so extension=imap.so extension=json.so extension=mbstring.so extension=mcrypt.so extension=openssl.so extension=pcntl.so extension=sysvshm.so extension=tidy.so extension=sysvsem.so extension=tokenizer.so extension=sysvmsg.so extension=phar.so extension=posix.so extension=sockets.so extension=zip.so extension=zlib.so extension=shmop.so extension=pdo.so extension=imagick.so extension=readline.so extension=gd.so extension=pdf.so extension=pspell.so extension=intl.so extension=uploadprogress.so extension=sqlite3.so extension=pgsql.so extension=pdo_sqlite.so extension=pdo_pgsql.so extension=curl.so extension=dom.so extension=xml.so extension=xsl.so extension=simplexml.so extension=soap.so extension=xmlwriter.so extension=wddx.so extension=xmlrpc.so extension=xmlreader.so extension=magickwand.so -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 09:07:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 875A361A; Tue, 26 May 2015 09:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@mail.parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71291BBE; Tue, 26 May 2015 09:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@mail.parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4213E592AB90; Tue, 26 May 2015 02:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 02:07:47 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Probably Solved, was Re: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? Message-ID: <20150526090747.GA23653@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> <556412B9.7000508@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <556412B9.7000508@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:07:48 -0000 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 07:29:13AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > In the second case, you need consistent ZTS settings in all your PHP > packages, including the base language and such things as www/mod_php55. > Check the contents of /usr/local/lib/php. There will be a directory > for loadable modules called eg. either '20121212' or '20121212-zts.' > You certainly shouldn't have both. To cure this problem, you will need > to reinstall as many of the php packages as necessary to ensure > consistent settings: it may be easier just to reinstall everything PHP > related. >=20 I took the opportunity to upgrade to php56 and indeed, things seem to be working again. *But* it looks like I screwed this up on my other server (oh, oh, my....). Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVZDfiAAoJEBV64x4SNmAruAkP/jd2mSQTMRcpH82gRNtN19sY RuECoXQA6rQ3/0IeeVqSCJD+3MMmibsvXuhV8Zsduh3DGPeeTACJ10hTijvdYuag mrGLaMjHVt/91xGmxWw5rIDJ2UeIxXHH8d5aWMC64GSO4LMAgFfElVXR9EnntVvB DqOMbYFItco1V/5XDoyGIdtrxVnZpkodLL39DU5JlAAp5dacRUeVeoU2DBje6qbd /zyd0qUy4G6Vc1+A3MBako7liEcgbgY7f/z6f/+bPFWsDXyq63aFAMOq90f6mgGe 6tRlm9HfCoLNktcYLVX51e57/S/dk2tCn9Rc2mNIJeEKY9q8/4f2GnL39Hsepge0 MwykmGbWtFNselIDcZ7KFggtBFl+9cDlkxDwFIhrtrGmU7q/rAmuDdyNpG64b1Zh 0Ig4T6x2xAb6wWZiExTA3vRqTO1kJ/swmKjK6peprgWXgSJINg+DpQ5DnMro/G9Q 0IKoLBQ2dqey9qcC+ne91dhyWSVUD7HQKvMYRzPjN3ak2+y9UmjvCaAGAitVOM4F o9B+oYIugb6bHL0mV97BMLILDLZT1aPujHAoVtmyqd84BE2ZIfNYn3MIy5f6FNx6 b+rcEZCmgOYeCOD4GztfZv2zLvMVPx9ndEf7YhItVK48tWnFlCf0x8RQ3BGeE0W0 UiqyX2YlBRKamqJ2RUBb =GyYK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 09:23:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52AF6B09; Tue, 26 May 2015 09:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF25D9A; Tue, 26 May 2015 09:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4Q9Nfkt045186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 May 2015 11:23:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t4Q9Nepa045183; Tue, 26 May 2015 11:23:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 11:23:40 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: David Benfell cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Probably Solved, was Re: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? In-Reply-To: <20150526090747.GA23653@home.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: References: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> <556412B9.7000508@FreeBSD.org> <20150526090747.GA23653@home.parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:23:50 -0000 On Tue, 26 May 2015 02:07-0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 07:29:13AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > In the second case, you need consistent ZTS settings in all your PHP > > packages, including the base language and such things as www/mod_php55. > > Check the contents of /usr/local/lib/php. There will be a directory > > for loadable modules called eg. either '20121212' or '20121212-zts.' > > You certainly shouldn't have both. To cure this problem, you will need > > to reinstall as many of the php packages as necessary to ensure > > consistent settings: it may be easier just to reinstall everything PHP > > related. > > > I took the opportunity to upgrade to php56 and indeed, things seem to > be working again. *But* it looks like I screwed this up on my other > server (oh, oh, my....). Going from lang/php5 to lang/php56 was an interesting lesson a few weeks ago. I whipped up this script to ease the pain: http://ximalas.info/~trond/create-zfs/canmount/upgrade-to-lang-php56.sh -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestl, | Trond Endrestl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 10:09:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 514BE903 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2ADFD45 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from moby.local ([85.181.131.240]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M4Wwq-1ZKNXS2JZc-00yjcN; Tue, 26 May 2015 12:08:58 +0200 Message-ID: <55644607.90400@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 12:08:07 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lokadamus@gmx.de" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: CPU frequency doesn't drop below 1200MHz (like it used to) References: <555C71C8.4080007@gmx.com> <55620A84.1090607@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <55620A84.1090607@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:fMNQXKhtQ64+lKreoDkqqDsvVuCAI9VcG5dfDqkYYOlKXztLafx +mK9mGESwZ1u8Bwq0E569/Fd0z0CX2/AlD6drsUpN7kNz4fHtNABjcL+8Ka2rBXkGquHG0n 2lWpHKu/XPRv//lBzJa2jzgtv1IQZlOHin24nP9KcBkrjJz7Z18yYq9zblAegBm+1WNTQon HJ1NBpcSKwZMdR9NQbXlA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:09:07 -0000 On 05/24/15 19:29, lokadamus@gmx.de wrote: > That's ok. > Your lowest possible speed is: > 1200/15194 > > So 1200MHz is ok. > Greetings > Yes, I asked stable@ and got to know about it. If anybody's interesteed: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2015-May/082397.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 10:18:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E298B62 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@mail.parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [IPv6:2001:470:67:119::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77BA0F76 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@mail.parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 00224592ABC1; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 03:18:48 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Reko Turja Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Apparently solved, Re: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? Message-ID: <20150526101848.GB23653@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> <4D55439AB01E4FE8B55704855762C356@Rivendell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D55439AB01E4FE8B55704855762C356@Rivendell> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:18:55 -0000 --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:32:46AM +0300, Reko Turja wrote: >=20 > It's pretty often the recode extension that needs to be on top of the=20 > extensions list (php reinstall/rebuild rearranges the extensions to the= =20 > install order.) >=20 > I've seen this less once I decoupled php and apache and started running p= hp=20 > in fcgi mode, but the problem still can rear it's ugly head. This might h= elp=20 > for starters; below is my extensions.ini. I also keep a copy in=20 > /usr/local/etc/php and just copy it over once rebuild is done. Of course = our=20 > used extensions differ a bit, but this might help as a starting point. >=20 Thanks! I've made a copy of this just in case, but so far, Matthew Seaman seems to be right and the magic order doesn't seem to be biting me. I do have to say, however, that it would have helped if `portmaster -r php56-whatever` had actually rebuilt everything that needed to be rebuilt. It only rebuilt php56 itself and mod_php56 (which I continue to use because I haven't succeeded in getting some applications to run with fastcgi). --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVZEiIAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr21wP/0wkEFo6mPtoyJUqLuxk8zKA liKck2xZjSOXlEk8PBCKFT+RxW7/GtwdOwlxYBjIfEK0U+eAjWa4bziYFGD5ktQ/ CQYdo0plZCGGeDzomcWncq3BQt6X3Xp8XpyQ17UihOFM4TqwVPexrLZ+t4A+l3nI fhfe+dSAPQNIsfrF7GZbtjx0HuK5h+NMQUDWBeozR6CYyh4/uhi5oQ3Ull/mMne3 WVltDnjgRyzRdfhT21REI/tfc0kj7JCUnNyoKpy/Rkn3YW7fCC8xHfvRTYZmvTvT tdaKBEfymsuow/a1a6kBGs7sF8z95ol9LLwvri1FHyEa+rre0BpFfLa++joT3cTi uZKqoewxoYctcWHpIrI4R+RE5kiB5aL8tAA3B1QYOmoCEoILcWnn/Yxegw3KbBPd sC0IndUe/vhvBK1xYiiOSpOfLfQJ396GDqxUHYa+GAhJ/+90HwEDyhxxbklOsECK Hd9an9O665Nic6KNd2Nw5Imkaxp9K0T/Gt4mvXsP8L0A/r3SStTr15RtN0+++BtJ 1BSMHRh9Y3RHYQowMQy21WYpW2FhYUFu8s6nCzcUd7gHrEBk+7j5E6pYMsvzxBQb /fvpK8S/wnZAm4N8RBEMbWfbkq1HQxNU+WxZVCdHgxw9mSV5ZKrTh8eblelX7Iy8 Rpi3JUrHOvfLFsKZCNsX =syco -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 10:27:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 620A4CED; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@mail.parts-unknown.org) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (mail.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 492E4215; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benfell@mail.parts-unknown.org) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A39BA592ABC1; Tue, 26 May 2015 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 03:27:27 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Trond =?iso-8859-1?Q?Endrest=F8l?= Cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Probably Solved, was Re: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? Message-ID: <20150526102727.GC23653@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> <556412B9.7000508@FreeBSD.org> <20150526090747.GA23653@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:27:28 -0000 --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:23:40AM +0200, Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: >=20 > Going from lang/php5 to lang/php56 was an interesting lesson a few=20 > weeks ago. I whipped up this script to ease the pain: >=20 > http://ximalas.info/~trond/create-zfs/canmount/upgrade-to-lang-php56.sh >=20 There was definitely some strange behavior, which I hope was due to inconsistency with the zend thread safety option, where libraries literally seemed to disappear after I had reinstalled them. But I also discovered I needed to reinstall pecl- and pear- packages, especially the latter. I think there's more to portupgrade than appears in the man page and there's lots more to portupgrade than I know, but I hope your script catches that. I'm saving it. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVZEqPAAoJEBV64x4SNmArJsAP/1FPm64E1VM5Z6Gl2XvoCJQX zi+48JkF8zTK3FaPq6B3n33LRF3Ol0bQB7h0OlzmXguR1+PTxCtRSTrk45EKPcIj EJSSGBsxlv1mU0kNnuJrf4klhxorSY1ERKcvNT5Uxepm7BYKGieKcUQ3533YSTqR aws3Vq68DZLaz02H1ST1zyjKZVKmLi/zZ+euGodstr2VynCvyUj40IptW0yCjdOl n4rgKqwQlp1fqlagJAgGkOYJWzn2UI+AuXpQ/XYLwbMpS9ZFhETDJuRogicFfUEt SbuKDRByi18Cq43RTRr4S1RduigfFvS7/D48YP0+WrSIlaapdToTnPm1xPKfOB7E ihgHqLZAibBXVWCTmdUf6FfwdU0eT2NtMH+A3gxe8hVxCZb44i/iU1iDgjND1ljR SP9wuztnQj+bbUDPMbSI5H3u0NSsDLJ9VQxTOikErrFouUK7N65MDX4qhOk8xW6m 6OLiRFkfAYDs1mKBBzQtpPMf7acXD6mzaSozj+nKvWqvJDWJOP4Mxlqf6APvadiJ gC+FZh+vJWLNP8ezPB29c3Mj3U/CJQbjoXdqRrEDL5hPWT6lDD21EEZ03C1HQiNh RdCBgzlPx6VKIJXwumEMWExwYp+lzaf/wBpTqlCkr/92jpxvcmWD7x8KsI5Z5plo LLUl52uUFUStRFcfr2Bh =FSoC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 10:56:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A63E4E0; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E951DB26; Tue, 26 May 2015 10:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4QAufjQ045591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 May 2015 12:56:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t4QAueHF045588; Tue, 26 May 2015 12:56:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 12:56:40 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: David Benfell cc: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Probably Solved, was Re: What's the gotcha with latest lang/php55? In-Reply-To: <20150526102727.GC23653@home.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: References: <20150525180825.Horde.iLgBeoFSnW0rHEfqq6T9Wky@mail.parts-unknown.org> <556412B9.7000508@FreeBSD.org> <20150526090747.GA23653@home.parts-unknown.org> <20150526102727.GC23653@home.parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:56:47 -0000 On Tue, 26 May 2015 03:27-0700, David Benfell wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:23:40AM +0200, Trond Endrestl wrote: > > > > Going from lang/php5 to lang/php56 was an interesting lesson a few > > weeks ago. I whipped up this script to ease the pain: > > > > http://ximalas.info/~trond/create-zfs/canmount/upgrade-to-lang-php56.sh > > There was definitely some strange behavior, which I hope was due to > inconsistency with the zend thread safety option, where libraries > literally seemed to disappear after I had reinstalled them. In my first case, I was switching from stable/8 to stable/10, and had to recompile all ports. I ran something like portupgrade -acn, and literally ran my upgrade script manually. Actually, my steps then formed the basis for my script. It also helps to pay attention to what happens to /var/db/ports, comparing the old options files with the new ones, and further keep that hierarchy under some form of SCM. I use CVS (devel/cvs) since it's pretty lightweight, but YMMV. I had a change to try the script last weekend on a stable/10 system, switching from lang/php5 to lang/php56, and all went well. > But I also discovered I needed to reinstall pecl- and pear- packages, > especially the latter. I think there's more to portupgrade than > appears in the man page and there's lots more to portupgrade than I > know, but I hope your script catches that. I'm saving it. On my systems, databases/pear-DB depends on devel/pear, which in turn depends on textproc/php56-xml and lang/php56, so yes, my script should handle such cases. -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestl, | Trond Endrestl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 14:26:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74FC7F43 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k.anastasakis@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail1.protonmail.ch (mail1.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "SwissSign Server Gold CA 2008 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33D58793 for ; 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Tue, 26 May 2015 20:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23E67C59 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 20:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-181-19.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.181.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7729827663; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:17:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t4QKHgwW002065; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:17:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 22:17:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?B?zprPjs+Dz4TOsc+CIM6RLg==?= Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: About the FreeBSD license Message-Id: <20150526221742.c0e3676f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <57c055d5fe4a3efe6b046c012ffca038@protonmail.ch> References: <57c055d5fe4a3efe6b046c012ffca038@protonmail.ch> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 20:17:52 -0000 On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:17:51 -0400, Κώστας Α. wrote: > One of the restrictions of the FreeBSD license is that one > cannot claim foreign code as his own. This is a common property of copyrighted code. Note that the (quite liberal) FreeBSD license does _not_ give up copyright on the licensed code. There may be (custom) licenses that allow you to take someone else's code, add your own copyright header, and (without getting into trouble) claim that it's _your_ code. The FreeBSD source code contains copyright information and license terms that do not state so. > However, couldn't one misuse the license by making just enough > changes to a previously open source project so as to make it > indistinguishable from the original, then publishing it as > proprietary and not crediting the original authors? Doesn't > that break said restriction? The license explicitely allows (!) you to make changes to the code. This is not a violation of license terms. And of course you are the copyright holder of the changes. You may license your changes in any way you want - use the FreeBSD license, use a different license (CDDL, GPL etc.) or write your own. However, this does _not_ affect the initial copyrighted code. Distribution in _binary_ form is a very special case. The license allows you to distribute modified source, and you don't even have to disclose the fact that the "bowels" of your project contain FreeBSD code. In fact, it's quite possible that many manufacturers are using BSD-licensed code in their software or appliances without telling the customer so, and of course without offering the source code of their (now proprietary) products. As you will see, additions (which means changes) to the FreeBSD code does not change the license of said code. You are not allowed to remove the copyright information and the license text from the source files, run a few identifier substitutions, then add your own copyright header and claim it is your code. Fun fact: You _can_ copyright empty files and "Hello World!". You need to be a big corporation to do so, but... ;-) http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/humor/ATT_Copyright_true.html https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/getStarted/application/examples/HelloWorldApp.java -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 21:12:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4179559F for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AB9C11 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:39788] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id A3/B2-04014-FC1E4655; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:12:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YxM9W-0001bh-Mo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 May 2015 17:12:46 -0400 Message-ID: <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 17:12:46 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> In-Reply-To: <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:12:49 -0000 On 05/25/15 23:47, Brandon Wandersee wrote: > On 05/26, Polytropon wrote: >> The bsdinstall "Welcome Menu" offers the choice "Shell" >> which should offer a functionality similar to the choice >> "Fixit" in sysinstall. The documentation also suggests >> that the single user mode, as well as the "Live CD" >> choice, could be used - at least that's why I understand >> from the description provided in the handbook. >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html#bsdinstall-choose-mode >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html#sysinstall-main3 > It's my understanding that "Live CD" is the equivalent of Fixit: a clean, > single-user environment that can be used for system maintenance. "Shell" on the > other hand is tied to the installation environment, so that actions taken there > are recognized by the installer. > > In any case, if the OP has some patience and a spare disk, it's less risky > (though more time-consuming) to install a new system, configure it, then set up > a new disk with ZFS and transfer the system via rsync. That's what I did anyway, > since it grants the convenience of a) having a working system in the meantime, > and b) leaves a spare copy of the system at hand at all times (in adition to the > requisite backup, that is). > Installing and then copying it over to the ZFS file system is not the correct answer. There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 21:26:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11692944 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0EEAE7E for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@ucsc.edu) Received: by wgez8 with SMTP id z8so108615576wge.0 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:26:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ucsc.edu; s=ucsc-google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wYKvrhRqR5R23caJbAV2NJOlx0DA9qqO6e0AWz9TXcs=; b=GHPDkv265zQug6kvvUXjZvRPNuVspkJVvB3Yj8YKUjGkBI2MfvH0C6vCWOpXlLYAw4 E88PRZd2br3jd0fK4PCDVqs1jOVBaTNBZIHEF/GDmA3oi7g7RiWiihMk2IyYkaluZ2Fg +LboJaiTwYFcZR0FTEYbnktSsNWLpj7cCCsRQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wYKvrhRqR5R23caJbAV2NJOlx0DA9qqO6e0AWz9TXcs=; b=h+Th+QGxto8Wy9jvx78VMW0+ueZjgM9uHEa+H0EfnZDDzzU7B1AXnv5Ee0AoH3fXd0 Jj20LMRO1WATSdGqrxFtbriO3LpFbbwfgCRcge8p+XJGLKx71uWUu5kF4iPLlGAb6rsi cWxieF/QQSFK8xW0BiocyDmEJLukWBg/v4WBOn7bnRCj1c7U10bH5dkHGt6uiMffzBsk zneEyuQWbPQl9qYGQ7ABufV9U8PNMu7it99+o4shZbidn/WmlTTzD8n1ed+7ZyVDnMMU 2F7MJy5ZZq7TkFD3PKqlu/s6FC9+E9TfG/uqB8JkCJ6X5zZhpZWtfes5/qrpcZwrKHQ4 XFhw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlomI8v7ERMAsUOGYUyqxvL6RZLhM8Ji3VsSFf+3kmWZclIUM4yxxiRaMkS/KM9gqO4QSki MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.229 with SMTP id hv5mr54021875wjb.119.1432675593985; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.76.42 with HTTP; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:26:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:26:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS From: Tim Gustafson To: Baho Utot Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:26:36 -0000 > I am looking for a way to install release-10.1 onto ZFS. > Are there any Howtos available? I'm pretty sure there's an install-to-ZFS option in the installer since 10.0. In fact, I have a few systems that were installed that way. Did you run the installer and look for that option? -- Tim Gustafson tjg@ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 Baskin Engineering, Room 313A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 21:27:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBC619DC for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.manas.88@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F66CE8D for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.manas.88@gmail.com) Received: by iebgx4 with SMTP id gx4so102422877ieb.0 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kfFVd59UlYF9Q7QQN7MmZuDJdSsdZuBtLoRw9inGgMI=; b=osTCTx8l4UyWD/fZ9nbCnlS7C3N7LQbEu6DS5jsApDaADxW2YMxUoH5WUS9/6+/5rn GezRSA6sua2KI47fMdCvSQx2ddEu26WLhyot9blMIjA02MIGsEYlDRXhXGem5d+WAKeC s6x5ZCUavOIqLnUEW08EfiyJHxtry+UUF3bkOjcxr5QDnfRy/DojVzEOSvojAcOIMhtf dKo6EmbFJqV0UmwXMl31IsCvGiQa4Yhd90ZOGqI6Qv82HwAAK7SpUx7A/84zaNO7sLae h1ST0/wg4wPQ3OIx0/fyDrS8uI2+W1b1r4bEh2B3ugsduJB/RdATIEyCaz/4aIfGy5lg w6Sw== X-Received: by 10.50.137.100 with SMTP id qh4mr32113432igb.1.1432675666979; Tue, 26 May 2015 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.110] ([209.195.113.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm233065igl.19.2015.05.26.14.27.46 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 26 May 2015 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5564E54E.5020209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 17:27:42 -0400 From: Manas Bhatnagar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:27:47 -0000 On 26-May-15 5:26 PM, Tim Gustafson wrote: >> I am looking for a way to install release-10.1 onto ZFS. >> Are there any Howtos available? > > I'm pretty sure there's an install-to-ZFS option in the installer > since 10.0. In fact, I have a few systems that were installed that > way. > > Did you run the installer and look for that option? > This is what I was thinking while reading this thread. There is a guided encrypted ZFS on boot option in the FreeBSD 10 installer. Or perhaps he meant something different with his question. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 22:09:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67E61ABB for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262F5A77 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:39813] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id BE/20-07931-70FE4655; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:09:12 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YxN27-0001d4-Ci; Tue, 26 May 2015 18:09:11 -0400 Message-ID: <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 18:09:11 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Radel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 22:09:19 -0000 On 05/26/15 17:34, Jon Radel wrote: > On 5/26/15 5:12 PM, Baho Utot wrote: >> >> >> Installing and then copying it over to the ZFS file system is not the >> correct answer. >> >> There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that >> hard? >> > > Well, installing to ZFS is trivial in 10.1 if you let the installer do > the installing. However, if you dislike its notions of what to do, > overriding what the installer does ranges from trivial to painful > depending on which of its defaults you object to. > > Perhaps if you shared with us why you wish to manually partition your > disks and/or what you mean by "install directly to ZFS" we could offer > suggestions more to your liking. Or to put it another way, what does > Auto-ZFS do that you dislike? > > And if you really want to do the whole thing without the installer, > what's the problem with > > http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/from-trenches-tips-tricks-edition.html > > > which Ben Woods already called to your attention? > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > From the handbook..... 2.6.4. Root-on-ZFS Automatic Partitioning Support for automatic creation of root-on-ZFS installations was added in FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE. This partitioning mode only works with whole disks and will erase the contents of the entire disk. The installer will automatically create partitions aligned to 4k boundaries and force ZFS to use 4k sectors. This is safe even with 512 byte sector disks, and has the added benefit of ensuring that pools created on 512 byte disks will be able to have 4k sector disks added in the future, either as additional storage space or as replacements for failed disks. The installer can also optionally employ GELI disk encryption as described in Section 18.12.2, Disk Encryption with |geli| . If encryption is enabled, a 2 GB unencrypted boot pool containing the |/boot| directory is created. It holds the kernel and other files necessary to boot the system. A swap partition of a user selectable size is also created, and all remaining space is used for the ZFS pool. The main ZFS configuration menu offers a number of options to control the creation of the pool. Erasing the entire contents is NOT an option. There are going to be two other operations systems installed on the boxen. And only works on whole disks. I want an ZFS Raid-Z2 setup. wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot is what I am trying to follow, but it doesn't do RAID-Z. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 22:17:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9921CC96 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C00EC9C for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@ucsc.edu) Received: by wizo1 with SMTP id o1so421243wiz.1 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 15:17:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ucsc.edu; s=ucsc-google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QkX5QNY17dHxWwMU5UEvYL3ayn4+jRd4yBunHDitbSE=; b=jQ2PVKEXTKbRYQwX5htgnXU7s31VyZl+Yv2/AmBazIoE9TAvkOV5kj4BLX7zuhnpWH KrX/vkccUtL2GZ2uWnNVe+yAsMh8yhM7b0TrmG/IkEjpDE07yroTJeartymQ9Ypx3XZj WigMvmH+eHrxY5+2eIyvioFAXUEiw+/vRxB8M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QkX5QNY17dHxWwMU5UEvYL3ayn4+jRd4yBunHDitbSE=; b=mWwADrvsf/YwsQOe40y4GfejMP2/JvopfFlzYRY4/vup0+xQrB0taUiiBtyNNesM+o xCFe+HAvJIOwimeU+f7AVSgDmb60M0V4ItRRF0A3t1cYmMDiHBQMcCxqn3fnr0jDXPZ6 tc7kaY2qyhAH+KVEhPem7cbutS/wcUdDPTCYwblNUX2ME72a8SXjCgiWkuW//3A+txzK d+wt8DCoTF3j9RyOP5AArgDr2NF7OJnN0f3/WIbQ6L4Av/vH0kkpVyXCR1XatX2HlfXu DVMhaUTHHKgVGVaHtYE0b6QYtqPAMjgZL05fseTeRcMzqGNFQVbxO/lPTjyyLRh8FJ/X JFWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnQmPvIRtI7CK52xSbLGRdZW+95GVbCHe5kH7Pi4x/aU2xzDQYl7jVRoRjiftGjNcRVK3Mj MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.229 with SMTP id hv5mr54339294wjb.119.1432678652599; Tue, 26 May 2015 15:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.76.42 with HTTP; Tue, 26 May 2015 15:17:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:17:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS From: Tim Gustafson To: Baho Utot Cc: Jon Radel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 22:17:34 -0000 > Erasing the entire contents is NOT an option. There are going to be two > other operations systems installed on the boxen. > And only works on whole disks. > > I want an ZFS Raid-Z2 setup. This is what I used before there was an installer option: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ It has served me well in the past, and gives you full flexibility. -- Tim Gustafson tjg@ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 Baskin Engineering, Room 313A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 22:18:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB925D34 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com (mail-wi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D17FCAF for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@ucsc.edu) Received: by wicmx19 with SMTP id mx19so77470118wic.0 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 15:18:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ucsc.edu; s=ucsc-google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VCFn1NhG3R9GLxNz65+s7b8OwW3l1b8PDSnhH8OEMhU=; b=Qqkxv2RAvfbFpIOAfVrAaluaWdbb/xxcv/F4ZEZAtlNcgY+Cs9CgX4hqgjU+OWT+4o zZWf9kpv8M4vtOyfhAM3ItpN/wEviZezqZyaV7IlaIGaM2PLEtv7VtmMZ1k0IZ8W0v6W jA5RikViapd2yKfg8LPN51vyHgKBHcKLOc9DE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VCFn1NhG3R9GLxNz65+s7b8OwW3l1b8PDSnhH8OEMhU=; b=mzZoyLavtJb4jaXjPu+DcIpl47VLXxs0fD/JBpoY6RzQ/qRFmRInpy4l226B4eY9+c E7wBevfTLDbrT2aj3EfpSPzP5PgSSh7ZprvY4vKN/A8FhhNqtyNNt+UDkAUQmpFIrWYu PmiXYffSCTw8dK5aOTGNDKhWJpyb2EMB7UJuD2D5z6YGYgO6Um3CJMFb2KYOZKN6Qg1O GK8hZRmwnqDq/EqizAQcjbLVijFbC2cYw2ll9Xdvr+HImmQQcfU6p6PVlSBR3kJIn+gD tAxwbrVCsPaQKPWRkAiFB5Y5khPMxsjQiM97LJ6jcnE53n9khP8VF42cK16VbzM5anfT ouMg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnATK1MsYSGVaTq39PBq6NM+tl8KM328pmA5hFujy4+DAvY8LQQOWxPWFUVv7wOUqpkOOg8 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.205.37 with SMTP id ld5mr54129422wjc.14.1432678722721; Tue, 26 May 2015 15:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.76.42 with HTTP; Tue, 26 May 2015 15:18:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:18:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS From: Tim Gustafson To: Baho Utot Cc: Jon Radel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 22:18:44 -0000 > This is what I used before there was an installer option: > > http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ > > It has served me well in the past, and gives you full flexibility. Sorry, I hit "Send" too fast. On that page, I believe you want the "Sepcial" edition, which includes support for ZFS boot, if I recall correctly. -- Tim Gustafson tjg@ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 Baskin Engineering, Room 313A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 22:34:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EDC31A9 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from fly.radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F76B14C for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.5 (ClamAV engine v0.98.5) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:15c5:7805:6ec3:ecf7] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 665785; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:34:48 +0000 Message-ID: <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 17:34:45 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Baho Utot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070404000909040405020609" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 22:34:58 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070404000909040405020609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/26/15 5:12 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > > > Installing and then copying it over to the ZFS file system is not the=20 > correct answer. > > There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that har= d? > Well, installing to ZFS is trivial in 10.1 if you let the installer do=20 the installing. However, if you dislike its notions of what to do,=20 overriding what the installer does ranges from trivial to painful=20 depending on which of its defaults you object to. Perhaps if you shared with us why you wish to manually partition your=20 disks and/or what you mean by "install directly to ZFS" we could offer=20 suggestions more to your liking. Or to put it another way, what does=20 Auto-ZFS do that you dislike? And if you really want to do the whole thing without the installer,=20 what's the problem with http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/from-trenches-tips-trick= s-edition.html which Ben Woods already called to your attention? --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms070404000909040405020609 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKrzCC BK8wggOXoAMCAQICEQDgI8sVEoNTia1hbnpUZ2shMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMG8xCzAJBgNV BAYTAlNFMRQwEgYDVQQKEwtBZGRUcnVzdCBBQjEmMCQGA1UECxMdQWRkVHJ1c3QgRXh0ZXJu YWwgVFRQIE5ldHdvcmsxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUFkZFRydXN0IEV4dGVybmFsIENBIFJvb3QwHhcN MTQxMjIyMDAwMDAwWhcNMjAwNTMwMTA0ODM4WjCBmzELMAkGA1UEBhMCR0IxGzAZBgNVBAgT EkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBxMHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgGA1UEChMRQ09NT0RP 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--------------ms070404000909040405020609-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 00:07:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28811667 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 00:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.153]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11616A42 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 00:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Nmqzr8zQsx+5CmsL1gkm6ryReVfVk1yfOPNoOtbJ5HE+B+EmbrUN95FAn44shvaD1vGibFcZhbSf RgSR3x4vxrToI+AX1rQAF07NFRfz6mBMiXiVwuI4wJjxQhr7384a Received: from WorkBox.Home (184-100-70-168.mpls.qwest.net [184.100.70.168]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1432685236507696.6441205599879; Tue, 26 May 2015 17:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 19:07:13 -0500 From: Brandon Wandersee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS Message-ID: <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 00:07:24 -0000 On 05/26, Baho Utot wrote: > Installing and then copying it over to the ZFS file system is not the correct > answer. > > ... > > There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? > > ... > > Erasing the entire contents is NOT an option. There are going to be two > other operations systems installed on the boxen. > And only works on whole disks. > > I want an ZFS Raid-Z2 setup. > > ... > > There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-freebsd-10-1-amd64-uefi-boot-with-encrypted-zfs-root-using-geli.51393/ -- =========================================== :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@zoho.com :: =========================================== "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 05:10:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A191F52 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 05:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-x22b.google.com (mail-pd0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2748898F for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 05:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: by pdbki1 with SMTP id ki1so68037496pdb.1 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:10:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=29MZx0hqFuDymawYgigcCix3c5+a1f4hhQ+gqVQkuYc=; b=BNgvI6Lrbgb+ynxRcBGag4qR841KrLCapRhfw6/Zm+IEE6WYkct6Hg8hSr+CEy0SgF jIbRdO21qGQ/QXxny6OHgCWG8Dsjhs/HdG2o0xErpESZobt2WhnBDLrShsFa0+kU3+Z3 bRTa4SnTjZAe1WiR9uvBi9y7iKQxEugnmpvoGotCO1gT8JQrmDYS0YsHPuWd6cLefflK b6GE04b/7qI4pSonkQMopQ0U65SvWd0JpRBxEeMa+AXutgl6LlF9RRoLVqgVmT5/PLkC rbUBZOFVD/teBl9BmF1zbN/Zb6tg47bR3NV/7d74+eu5otX4EjjnnXUa9ZEiCWihy1i5 4ZSQ== X-Received: by 10.68.132.103 with SMTP id ot7mr54448116pbb.81.1432703418595; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:10:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.96.36 with HTTP; Tue, 26 May 2015 22:09:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home> From: Michael Schuster Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 07:09:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS To: Brandon Wandersee Cc: freeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 05:10:19 -0000 Perhaps not quite what OP was looking for: I used PC-BSD to get ZFS onto the (single) disk of an old Lenovo T60p - it worked like a charm. AFAIR, you need a 64-bit capable machine though. HTH Michael On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Brandon Wandersee < brandon.wandersee@zoho.com> wrote: > On 05/26, Baho Utot wrote: > > Installing and then copying it over to the ZFS file system is not the > correct > > answer. > > > > ... > > > > There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? > > > > ... > > > > Erasing the entire contents is NOT an option. There are going to be two > > other operations systems installed on the boxen. > > And only works on whole disks. > > > > I want an ZFS Raid-Z2 setup. > > > > ... > > > > There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? > > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-freebsd-10-1-amd64-uefi-boot-with-encrypted-zfs-root-using-geli.51393/ > > -- > =========================================== > :: Brandon Wandersee :: > :: brandon.wandersee@zoho.com :: > =========================================== > "A common mistake that people make when > trying to design something completely > foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity > of complete fools." > - Douglas Adams > =========================================== > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 12:26:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13286291 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky1252@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT004-OMC2S49.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s49.hotmail.com [65.54.61.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E018DFA6 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky1252@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT146-W32 ([65.55.90.73]) by SNT004-OMC2S49.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 27 May 2015 05:26:23 -0700 X-TMN: [L0J16v4IU6NLKbsxJLM9COrm6ZKDifCj] X-Originating-Email: [ricky1252@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Ricky G To: Michael Schuster CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 08:26:22 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>,<5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2015 12:26:23.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[580403E0:01D09878] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 12:26:30 -0000 > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-freebsd-10-1-amd64-uefi-boot-w= ith-encrypted-zfs-root-using-geli.51393/ This guide is good and will get you most of the way there. There are a few = things missing however=2C zpool set bootfs needs to be set. Also if you dec= ide on encryption you may need to set vfs.root.mountfrom in loader.conf and= add zpool import zboot to your rc.local because it wont automatically impo= rt the boot pool. > Erasing the entire contents is NOT an option. There are going to be two> = other operations systems installed on the boxen.> And only works on whole d= isks.> > I want an ZFS Raid-Z2 setup.> > ...>> There must be a way to insta= ll directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? To me=2C it sounds like you dont understand how ZFS works and you should do= some research. If you plan on doing a raid-z2 I assume you plan to use at = least 3 disks. You want to keep your old partitions so using zfs on that di= sk doesn't seem ideal. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 14:26:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35F1925F for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 14:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vn0-x231.google.com (mail-vn0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5BE3328 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 14:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: by vnbf129 with SMTP id f129so1150968vnb.1 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 07:26:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=rNSe3ee9zas15YcKQI+AXu8dSZUjoubVlFuK1oJadZk=; b=YlyhQfgHf+F6LrZR8+BgpRtXm79JXu0WOtN+cl9Z0W5uxNSRp1Gs0U0gzScGe1AEwN 6oFYwlyT1+kdhXZjyu4/rBh5qLUtl+mRE5Clak1AmAHoqvuVM3j0iWyw9s9jxlReS2Zj 2s5K8s2vgqlepWfCbyoy4jfndGmuR1aksBzq95bDIiN60ORC0Be3lpGcx3ol0meCCF+T +qFQ1hSIyrrtcbwFUPD7rPeaIXtPpOBYJEgZ2LZkIwLu6M1VUTpVTuvnmH/6OwNJ0Mwd 52OEsSl6c0nC3fozw9kM1LX8sPptFOmUACVRtgf/w8AMq8s41lFWJLTOt5oE0WkqPQ6c GgRQ== X-Received: by 10.53.1.234 with SMTP id bj10mr27114439vdd.60.1432736775803; Wed, 27 May 2015 07:26:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.185.134 with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2015 07:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Pratik Singhal Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:55:55 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: How do we use the bus_dma interface ? To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:26:17 -0000 Hello, I have to program the Cubieboard's DMA controller. So far, after the initialization of the driver, to perform DMA transfer I was trying to pass the actual physical address to the DMA controller which I came to know that, is not the correct way to program the DMA controller. Instead, I should try using the bus_dma(9) interface. I have read the relevant parts of the DMA from the book FreeBSD Device Driver, but I am unable to understand the bus_dma interface. (How to use it ? ) . Can someone please give a overview of the whole process (tags and maps) so that I can at least get started on the programming part. for ex, How should I use the interface to start the DMA transfer ? Regards, Pratik Singhal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 17:27:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 980AB3EF for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14FC1861 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta010.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C222401185 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:20:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C76AC40F4 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:20:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FB4AC40EF for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:20:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.254.7] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta004.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:20:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <5565FCE8.9080700@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:20:40 +0100 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, In-Reply-To: X-MDF-HostID: 17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:27:27 -0000 On 27/05/2015 13:26, Ricky G wrote: > >>> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-freebsd-10-1-amd64-uefi-boot-with-encrypted-zfs-root-using-geli.51393/ > This guide is good and will get you most of the way there. There are a few things missing however, zpool set bootfs needs to be set. Also if you decide on encryption you may need to set vfs.root.mountfrom in loader.conf and add zpool import zboot to your rc.local because it wont automatically import the boot pool. >> Erasing the entire contents is NOT an option. There are going to be two> other operations systems installed on the boxen.> And only works on whole disks.> > I want an ZFS Raid-Z2 setup.> > ...>> There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? > To me, it sounds like you dont understand how ZFS works and you should do some research. If you plan on doing a raid-z2 I assume you plan to use at least 3 disks. You want to keep your old partitions so using zfs on that disk doesn't seem ideal. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > This is a good point, I don't understand ZFS. Is there a good book (O'Reilly?) on it? Up to FreeBSD being released I'd considered ZFS as 'under development" and suddenly, with V10.0, there is was! I really need to know more that is both general and FreeBSD specific on this subject. Recommendations, anyone? (I have the Handbook, of course) Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 17:31:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B9F8577 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10FEF9FF for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: by iepj10 with SMTP id j10so19041237iep.3 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 10:31:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=x6YOymzcqHNkQg/Q7UldScOeAjwW6A8iF6zMK1E3+g4=; b=Gqiq+tkfWGN0M3AKJEH3XRIz1vwgNB1+ViA/cjREfdkjpnxuq6pI/rmfHw+FhAuW7t sdoQ5XISWcS/Yvsl6k1aw+WnVldMTF1YG4GjlHMuTpmcVlePEplEaJGvqSNTsx9z9kaz 7wCoIxUpxO2xT8Sh1SsAcDt1LzsxPjgG70H/un1BFIK9Hsq59dLpQK9yO2Fa/rtyg/7J RtU7ueQXViCaVAQCU1aaSkS54hik4f3IlhB1RV8IRi7YTJh32ajEkiZ3QCcbSyThZAv+ D5eK0tkAk9DtB+ct8BQGv6HXmfZ5Fz8Su5XtTrAywoZPMj8bmDpN1oe+Kr3NSHh51plG HFvw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkmw8f3YIe1N5/rM/3JOF6tEzNlKvlWvmOULDuFF+LifGhkujZLORdar+9jA+TBSdbKdjo5ZAT4iEs+b1vXjEi1ILpuGs3Boni5eU/YwLFD8Jki8x5xVGW/ZDMLNkH/8QG6kGv/ X-Received: by 10.107.10.89 with SMTP id u86mr32644031ioi.79.1432747886032; Wed, 27 May 2015 10:31:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.59.148 with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2015 10:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaime Kikpole Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 13:31:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: ZFS in a VM? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 17:39:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BD78957 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15A0FAD6 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4RHdOfr064023; Wed, 27 May 2015 10:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 btw.pki2.com t4RHdOfr064023 Authentication-Results: btw.pki2.com; dmarc=none header.from=pki2.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pki2.com; s=pki2; t=1432748364; bh=zn6tptdKkNmnJNDifcEFONuvIXwSLJoHTmy+pVK0G44=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; z=Subject:=20Re:=20ZFS=20in=20a=20VM?|From:=20Dennis=20Glatting=20< freebsd@pki2.com>|To:=20Jaime=20Kikpole=20|Cc:=20"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=20|Date:=20Wed,=2027=20May=202015=2010:39:24=20-0700|In-Repl y-To:=20|References:=20=0D=0A=09; b=jLhn4DnNJ+vXOiErks9emRP2aUiJDmQzhn5cawtRvaJbMBnqGlp3E1QjRY2RCfba7 V/XgIknUnVLIST1JpeRTzQrFwsFmUyFt6QgCFPzTHHuwo6suzowGiA1MHdDV1Bo5Q8 Bcr7BPUueKQOF6DbMzuIBqqVne5ItXW16SQ/SVmWod5ngk/Lp6cUYvROMnn/EyKmvi Fi6ZAINJyLNi1uAqxCuQdOcy5cxg5R5p2eDkg7KnNMWE3mxChc2qPaK74jOeeKlEBZ Yprv2qL+BQgMBQQjKPjRmYGFz9nxwB2A6kHbCKtXQqO5KV97ij+wAOI5qLZxuTi/TQ A0XmS9PB4EQww== Message-ID: <1432748364.72563.20.camel@pki2.com> Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? From: Dennis Glatting To: Jaime Kikpole Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:39:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: t4RHdOfr064023 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:39:38 -0000 On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 13:31 -0400, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > Can I run a FreeBSD system in a virtual machine and use ZFS? The VM > environment is a commercial system based on Linux's KVM, if that > matters. > I know a guy who did this but it was kind of sleazy. He wasn't talking to the disks themselves rather to a file/block device created under VMWare then attached to the VM. To VMWare it was a file on the disk. To the VM is was a disk. Not a lot of value there. > -- > Jaime Kikpole > Network Administrator > Cairo-Durham Central School District > > Technical Support: > help@cairodurham.org > go.cairodurham.org/techtips > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 18:24:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 523E0B45 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from fly.radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4BE0A2F for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.5 (ClamAV engine v0.98.5) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:58ff:2215:f3fd:80e1] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 666357; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:24:02 +0000 Message-ID: <55660BC1.7010201@radel.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:24:01 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Burton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, <5565FCE8.9080700@sliderule.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5565FCE8.9080700@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020305020106070505000904" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:24:07 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020305020106070505000904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/27/15 1:20 PM, Steve Burton wrote: > This is a good point, I don't understand ZFS. Is there a good book=20 > (O'Reilly?) on it? Up to FreeBSD being released I'd considered ZFS as=20 > 'under development" and suddenly, with V10.0, there is was! > I really need to know more that is both general and FreeBSD specific=20 > on this subject. > > Recommendations, anyone? (I have the Handbook, of course) > > I've not read it, but will be purchasing it myself soon, but based on=20 the author's track record, I'd imagine that Michael Lucas, FreeBSD Mastery ZFS is a coherent and practical place to start. It just came out so should=20 be up to date. https://www.tiltedwindmillpress.com/?product=3Dfmzfs is the author's own sales venue. Should also be available from Amazon=20 for Kindle and, when the presses finish, on paper. My only issue with Mr. Lucas's self-published works are that I find a=20 number of typos and the like that a good editor would have reduced in=20 number. 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ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A81FB9B9; Wed, 27 May 2015 11:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55661296.3040501@bluerosetech.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:53:10 -0700 From: Mel Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaime Kikpole CC: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: AD with FreeBSD DNS & DHCP server References: <0F2E94D2-344C-414C-B2BE-569257CD57DF@cairodurham.org> In-Reply-To: <0F2E94D2-344C-414C-B2BE-569257CD57DF@cairodurham.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:53:17 -0000 On 2015-05-08 19:52, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > I'm going to be setting up an Active Directory system soon(ish) in a mixed environment. I've got a lot of non-Windows workstations and servers running FreeBSD and MacOS. So I was wondering what I needed to do to have internal DNS resolution and DHCP leases running from a FreeBSD virtual server while running Active Directory from another virtual server. > > Any advice or places to start reading? If it's at all possible, use your DCs as your network's DNS servers. Windows domains need bidirectional DNS: - ADS uses DNS to provide locators for directory services and the DCs. - Replication services require working A/AAAA for the DCs so they can find each other without DS. - Windows Domain computers send authenticated DNS updates to update the A/AAAA records for the machine names. You can work around the first two by having unbound use stub-zones pointed at the Windows DNS servers, but unbound will not forward zone updates. You can go a bit further and mostly get the third point as well using BIND configured to receive the zone updates, but your Windows event logs will have errors about DNS authentication because BIND can't do AD-authenticated DNS updates. Worse, those updates won't make it back to Windows DNS, so your AD DNS zones will get stale. This will be a problem. On my networks, the Windows DNS servers are resolvers for the whole network, including extra-domain hosts. The isc-dhcpd, rtadvd, and wide-dhcp6s instances running on my FreeBSD routers hand out the DCs' IP addresses as the DNS servers. The Windows DNS servers have the public domain above the AD FQDN added as a primary zone so that the few extra-domain hostnames work for everyone as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 19:06:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 717678C6 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22f.google.com (mail-qk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A01D634 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by qkdn188 with SMTP id n188so11506188qkd.2 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:06:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4FkTERKY4dhxlUOwLW5KAFVD7vzc4DyNjIku2+i6FgQ=; b=SfHoxGPk41Xu7Wv558DV3rmk7LeKzc0ub2css2LtALY/Tv4Jyo8Si2US0m1O//mHy7 sdRhB3F34iVTktGNd6p5tlhQdGA/qrHY7VvpN0dbBUIesb6pOsZ4oxd0vzZjjSQqaXAf uX2832LSvJoQkrtlIwo60HKlxwe8OjJ5SgdEL1RRKMA5izIU6oh5k92i1RsQJGBwGZ3G OZujzCifWc1Lbs5B9RaOpIUw5d9ZSXHtYifuZWzXQJ78tNndopeG6r6SyyQC6cK3YUTJ QB86LdPyZcYyBdvxcecwTAZao42Gg9oScURYrNbmgoWTx8q/4wQV4neB4AUEKl58bFXf rHhg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.22.74 with SMTP id g71mr16099279qkh.28.1432753575454; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.198.65 with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:06:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55661296.3040501@bluerosetech.com> References: <0F2E94D2-344C-414C-B2BE-569257CD57DF@cairodurham.org> <55661296.3040501@bluerosetech.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 12:06:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AD with FreeBSD DNS & DHCP server From: Kurt Buff To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:06:17 -0000 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: > On 2015-05-08 19:52, Jaime Kikpole wrote: >> >> I'm going to be setting up an Active Directory system soon(ish) in a mixed >> environment. I've got a lot of non-Windows workstations and servers running >> FreeBSD and MacOS. So I was wondering what I needed to do to have internal >> DNS resolution and DHCP leases running from a FreeBSD virtual server while >> running Active Directory from another virtual server. >> >> Any advice or places to start reading? > > > If it's at all possible, use your DCs as your network's DNS servers. Windows > domains need bidirectional DNS: > > - ADS uses DNS to provide locators for directory services and the DCs. > - Replication services require working A/AAAA for the DCs so they can find > each other without DS. > - Windows Domain computers send authenticated DNS updates to update the > A/AAAA records for the machine names. > > You can work around the first two by having unbound use stub-zones pointed > at the Windows DNS servers, but unbound will not forward zone updates. You > can go a bit further and mostly get the third point as well using BIND > configured to receive the zone updates, but your Windows event logs will > have errors about DNS authentication because BIND can't do AD-authenticated > DNS updates. Worse, those updates won't make it back to Windows DNS, so > your AD DNS zones will get stale. This will be a problem. > > On my networks, the Windows DNS servers are resolvers for the whole network, > including extra-domain hosts. The isc-dhcpd, rtadvd, and wide-dhcp6s > instances running on my FreeBSD routers hand out the DCs' IP addresses as > the DNS servers. The Windows DNS servers have the public domain above the > AD FQDN added as a primary zone so that the few extra-domain hostnames work > for everyone as well. What he said, x100. AD is intimately bound up in DNS, with lots of dynamic updates of service records, etc. Let your Windows AD DCs do both DNS and DHCP. Just make sure that the DHCP service is running as an unprivileged AD user. See, among many others, this article: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732584.aspx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 19:30:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DA418CB for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0C3D7A for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:40270] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C4/F3-05878-6AA16655; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:27:34 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YxgzF-0001uh-LC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 15:27:33 -0400 Message-ID: <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:27:33 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:30:53 -0000 On 05/27/15 08:26, Ricky G wrote: > >>> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-freebsd-10-1-amd64-uefi-boot-with-encrypted-zfs-root-using-geli.51393/ > This guide is good and will get you most of the way there. There are a few things missing however, zpool set bootfs needs to be set. Also if you decide on encryption you may need to set vfs.root.mountfrom in loader.conf and add zpool import zboot to your rc.local because it wont automatically import the boot pool. >> Erasing the entire contents is NOT an option. There are going to be two> other operations systems installed on the boxen.> And only works on whole disks.> > I want an ZFS Raid-Z2 setup.> > ...>> There must be a way to install directly to ZFS....Is it really that hard? > To me, it sounds like you dont understand how ZFS works and you should do some research. If you plan on doing a raid-z2 I assume you plan to use at least 3 disks. You want to keep your old partitions so using zfs on that disk doesn't seem ideal. I do understand how ZFS works I am using it (ZFS RAID-Z1) on three boxen but not as the root file system. I did do the research.... if you RTFH you would see that the installer uses the auto option for ZFS which wipes out and uses the entire drive. You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two parity drives From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 19:41:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0E4CF4 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DAE1A6 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jkikpole@cairodurham.org) Received: by iebgx4 with SMTP id gx4so21969846ieb.0 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:41:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Dj7B6OwZk7uTPRa524LwaUqzFRfas3uU8QpnAtDTo4U=; b=ThVSZXFsJSqwX5t91S2BhMRGYPWK+vyC64/Hh6biz2O57PgDnCuo0xGs9TDjCvVc5r d3d+pmkTN12Rnr3J54rc+cZlVeszks3VHgLas2KcszviVz0Q8TPlpaRDGPRoozVHfy/O QdytXTOXSHHNuDYQWZUMoxLugStknl8hKXDMpRtqr204jQp+id/pv1iYstc1EZcijElN SjrkI9nU3AoYdZs7OTk6s2ccx4SxM3SqV7jHU4SnCRpdOCTA17HUZsjZnCaeEQdUrXC+ yMdDlT8phMqyKwjNow9aCQt1/dreFTvHQg1Di1C+9l9hdR0eRz5DZm/57ZvpWA1IJ7Tc pwxg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkHQgErQfYwMLnBHjJI42bB3/A1+KvbFOGf458CcbhWDr0yXleQptJPgyAS3MTWznYzWftZ3i7Fn78yxKAlDhfrVGyrBRjLB5OEGxPZLYygwmnFmyi6o7kKx714j5MrAG+ker/N X-Received: by 10.107.130.33 with SMTP id e33mr43688509iod.80.1432755707773; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:41:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.59.148 with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:41:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> References: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> From: Jaime Kikpole Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:41:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:41:55 -0000 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > I do. I do it not so much for any performance benefits, if any, ZFS offers, but more for data integrity. Exactly what I was looking for, too. > You need to tune it since the VM based disks are not the same as physical disks. I'm afraid that I don't understand. Can you explain what you mean by "tune it?" -- Jaime Kikpole Network Administrator Cairo-Durham Central School District Technical Support: help@cairodurham.org go.cairodurham.org/techtips -- This electronic message and any attachment(s) may contain confidential or legally privileged information protected by law from further disclosure and is intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. If you are not the addressee (or the employee or agency responsible to deliver it to the addressee), or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are hereby notified that you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of this message or any attachment(s). Please notify the sender immediately by return email or telephone and permanently delete this message and attachment(s) from your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 19:55:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66D90FA6 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mail.shire.net (mail.shire.net [199.102.78.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A19B32D for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 19:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from 50-73-39-30-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([50.73.39.30] helo=[172.16.1.74]) by mail.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1YxhAS-000CAC-Cd; Wed, 27 May 2015 13:39:08 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? From: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 13:39:10 -0600 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> References: To: Jaime Kikpole X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 50.73.39.30 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:55:03 -0000 > On May 27, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Jaime Kikpole = wrote: >=20 > Can I run a FreeBSD system in a virtual machine and use ZFS? The VM > environment is a commercial system based on Linux's KVM, if that > matters. I do. I do it not so much for any performance benefits, if any, ZFS = offers, but more for data integrity. You need to tune it since the VM = based disks are not the same as physical disks. I run into performance = issues when the =E2=80=9Cdisk=E2=80=9D gets to a certain usage level (in = terms of used capacity). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 20:37:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B63B5F1 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mail.shire.net (mail.shire.net [199.102.78.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6E5E44 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from 50-73-39-30-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([50.73.39.30] helo=[172.16.1.74]) by mail.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Yxi4R-000DmI-G6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 14:36:59 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? From: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:36:58 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 50.73.39.30 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 20:37:00 -0000 > On May 27, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Jaime Kikpole = wrote: >=20 > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC > wrote: >> I do. I do it not so much for any performance benefits, if any, ZFS = offers, but more for data integrity. >=20 > Exactly what I was looking for, too. >=20 >=20 >> You need to tune it since the VM based disks are not the same as = physical disks. >=20 > I'm afraid that I don't understand. Can you explain what you mean by = "tune it?" There are various kernel =E2=80=9Ctunables=E2=80=9D (aka =E2=80=9Ckernel = state=E2=80=9D, settable =E2=80=9Cvariables=E2=80=9D in the kernel, see = =E2=80=9Cman sysctl=E2=80=9D) that affect ZFS. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 20:42:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14D4086C for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from fly.radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D78CA3 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.5 (ClamAV engine v0.98.5) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:58ff:2215:f3fd:80e1] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 666454; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:30 +0000 Message-ID: <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 16:42:29 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Baho Utot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040500000207090308070309" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:33 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040500000207090308070309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/27/15 3:27 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > > I do understand how ZFS works I am using it (ZFS RAID-Z1) on three=20 > boxen but not as the root file system. > > > > You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two parity = > drives You either contradict yourself or you have a shaky understanding of the=20 word "cannot". Not recommended, quite possibly not the best way to use=20 3 disks, sure.... Cannot, well, not so much. Personally, I think this discussion might have gotten off to a much=20 better start if you'd started out by telling us that you couldn't use=20 the installer because you weren't in a position to use your entire=20 disks; all of which is entirely absent in your initial mail. Several people have now given you links to various cookbooks for doing=20 what I understand you want to do, or more precisely, as close as=20 anything published is likely to be to meeting your exact needs. Pick one = and see how it goes. 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[8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72CB1FCE for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 21:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) Received: from sender163-mail.zoho.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BC2288A for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=niI64KKTh+4xFh8pYX8GJSIVjUwJr8FI9xtAWdjk3ell0KcFrfg38NRKL+RXNViTfoOERLvyDVa6 j3rhw5f8TbqfcmkzuPQwVvn4v6upyXMt7a0E0eir9wVVrUbV7Aco Received: from WorkBox.Home (184-100-70-168.mpls.qwest.net [184.100.70.168]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1432761052768877.9075440698607; Wed, 27 May 2015 14:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 16:10:50 -0500 From: Brandon Wandersee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? Message-ID: <20150527211050.GA11054@WorkBox.Home> References: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:11:02 -0000 On 05/27, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > On May 27, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Jaime Kikpole wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC > > wrote: > >> I do. I do it not so much for any performance benefits, if any, ZFS offers, but more for data integrity. > > > > Exactly what I was looking for, too. > > > > > >> You need to tune it since the VM based disks are not the same as physical disks. > > > > I'm afraid that I don't understand. Can you explain what you mean by "tune it?" > > There are various kernel “tunables” (aka “kernel state”, settable “variables” in the kernel, see “man sysctl”) that affect ZFS. A lot of tuning "knobs" are described here: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS%5FEvil%5FTuning%5FGuide As others have implied/stated, any results you get from a VM (especially after fiddling with tuning) won't accurately reflect anything you'd get from using ZFS on bare metal, and some operations are just out of the question. -- =========================================== :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@zoho.com :: =========================================== "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 21:15:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1122101 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 21:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73C9DB for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 21:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:40311] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 55/C0-26188-A3336655; Wed, 27 May 2015 21:12:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yxick-0001x6-6U; Wed, 27 May 2015 17:12:26 -0400 Message-ID: <55663337.4050806@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:12:23 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Radel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 21:15:41 -0000 On 05/27/15 16:42, Jon Radel wrote: > On 5/27/15 3:27 PM, Baho Utot wrote: >> >> I do understand how ZFS works I am using it (ZFS RAID-Z1) on three >> boxen but not as the root file system. >> >> > >> >> You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two >> parity drives > You either contradict yourself or you have a shaky understanding of > the word "cannot". Not recommended, quite possibly not the best way > to use 3 disks, sure.... Cannot, well, not so much. Ok tell me how you have two parity drives with using only three drives. It can not be done. > > Personally, I think this discussion might have gotten off to a much > better start if you'd started out by telling us that you couldn't use > the installer because you weren't in a position to use your entire > disks; all of which is entirely absent in your initial mail. > I was very clear what I wanted to do. From my first post: I have found wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot. I think it is out of date as it is using fixit. I am looking for something that I can use that drops to manually partitioning during the install. end post How to install FreeBSD 10.1 to a zfs filesystem dropping to manual partitioning, whether to a single drive with or with out using the entire drive is not material. > Several people have now given you links to various cookbooks for doing > what I understand you want to do, or more precisely, as close as > anything published is likely to be to meeting your exact needs. Pick > one and see how it goes. I'd suggest really good backups first. > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > The links supplied (two) 1. was a link to the handbook using auto partitioning, doesn't answer the question in any way 2. a hack not using the installer, doesn't answer the question in any way Looks like I am on my own From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 22:06:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54360C7D for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky1252@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT004-OMC4S33.hotmail.com (snt004-omc4s33.hotmail.com [65.55.90.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C2ED853 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky1252@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT146-W31 ([65.55.90.199]) by SNT004-OMC4S33.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 27 May 2015 15:05:35 -0700 X-TMN: [H4RxpVjJ/g39rKfwqznTyhD7NUwTE821] X-Originating-Email: [ricky1252@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Ricky G To: Baho Utot CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:05:35 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, , <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, , <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, , <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, , <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, , <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>,,<5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, , , , <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2015 22:05:35.0647 (UTC) FILETIME=[41F99AF0:01D098C9] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:06:42 -0000 > I do understand how ZFS works I am using it (ZFS RAID-Z1) on three boxen= =20 > but not as the root file system. >=20 > I did do the research.... if you RTFH you would see that the installer=20 > uses the auto option for ZFS which wipes out and uses the entire drive. >=20 Apologies if it seemed like I was offending you=2C it was not my intent. > You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two parity=20 > drives This is incorrect however. I didn't say it would be ideal but it is possibl= e to do a raidz2 with 3 drives. Just to verify myself I pulled out a handy = usb stick to test. > The links supplied (two) > 1. was a link to the handbook using auto partitioning=2C doesn't=20 > answer the question in any way > 2. a hack not using the installer=2C doesn't answer the question=20 > in any way bsdinstall is a really well done piece of work for something that was alrea= dy made to be simple. The guide that was posted may not be to your exact ne= ed=2C but It is faily close and quite current. Its not a hacky way of insta= lling FreeBSD=2C It is how you do it manually to fit ones needs like you ha= ve now. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 22:36:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BD697AD for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE91F0C for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:40345] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id E6/C0-26188-8E646655; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:36:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yxjw0-0001yk-1Z; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:36:24 -0400 Message-ID: <556646E7.2050204@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:36:23 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ricky G CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, , <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, , <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, , <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, , <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, , <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, , <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, , , , <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:36:27 -0000 On 05/27/15 18:05, Ricky G wrote: > > > You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two parity > > drives > > This is incorrect however. I didn't say it would be ideal but it is > possible to do a raidz2 with 3 drives. Just to verify myself I pulled > out a handy usb stick to test. So the data is only one one drive and you have parity stored on two drives? And no using several partitions on the three drives doesn't count. That serves no purpose Yes I see all the system admins busting down the door to get that running. That's absurd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 23:31:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDC6B66A for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from fly.radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40136E0C for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.5 (ClamAV engine v0.98.5) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:58ff:2215:f3fd:80e1] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 666538; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:30:55 +0000 Message-ID: <556653AE.7080608@radel.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:30:54 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Baho Utot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> <55663337.4050806@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <55663337.4050806@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020503020805020607080906" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:31:05 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020503020805020607080906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/27/15 5:12 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 05/27/15 16:42, Jon Radel wrote: >> On 5/27/15 3:27 PM, Baho Utot wrote: >>> >>> I do understand how ZFS works I am using it (ZFS RAID-Z1) on three=20 >>> boxen but not as the root file system. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two=20 >>> parity drives >> You either contradict yourself or you have a shaky understanding of=20 >> the word "cannot". Not recommended, quite possibly not the best way=20 >> to use 3 disks, sure.... Cannot, well, not so much. > > Ok tell me how you have two parity drives with using only three=20 > drives. It can not be done. > Like this, more or less: root@pumpkin:/etc # gpart add -t freebsd -s 10G ada0 ada0s2 added root@pumpkin:/etc # gpart add -t freebsd -s 10G ada0 ada0s3 added root@pumpkin:/etc # gpart add -t freebsd -s 10G ada0 ada0s4 added, but partition is not aligned on 4096 bytes root@pumpkin:/etc # zpool create tada raidz2 /dev/ada0s2 /dev/ada0s3=20 /dev/ada0s4 root@pumpkin:/etc # zpool status tada pool: tada state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tada ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s2 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s3 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0s4 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors root@pumpkin:/etc # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ada0s1a 253911544 902528 232696096 0% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev tada 10033936 96 10033840 0% /tada root@pumpkin:/etc # Of course, if one wanted a 3-device raidz2 vdev in production in the=20 first place, you'd do well to have the partitions on 3 different drives, much better=20 performance and resilience that way. But the logical structure of the ZFS vdev is the same. 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[8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D71D9995 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A6E3A4 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.7/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4RNnrfv080718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 16:49:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Swap exhaustion Message-Id: <1CD13C1C-5344-4909-A061-F25FBB86AFF9@lafn.org> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 16:49:52 -0700 To: FreeBSD - Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:59:26 -0000 I have a process that is eating up 6 GB of swap space. At that point, = FreeBSD 9.3 terminates a process. However, occasionally its not the one = eating up the space. When I manually quit the process then the swap = space returns to a few KB used. The system runs fine after that. I have very little knowledge of what this process is doing internally = but would like to know what might be causing this issue. There are 5 of = these processes running (parent plus 4 children). Normally each uses = about 90 MB RES/SIZE. However when the problem occurs they are about = 2GB RES/SIZE each. The system has 4 GB memory. I thought that a malloc = would not be able to grab that much memory, even with swapping as it has = to be in memory. Could a malloc cause this growth in process size or = need I look elsewhere? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 05:09:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46D227B for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 05:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22208796 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 05:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.7/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4S59AtU088019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 May 2015 22:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: Swap exhaustion From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20150528000655.GA15385@neutralgood.org> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:09:10 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD - Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6F843A4D-8D2D-4DE2-B90E-A8033BEC1500@lafn.org> References: <1CD13C1C-5344-4909-A061-F25FBB86AFF9@lafn.org> <20150528000655.GA15385@neutralgood.org> To: kpneal@pobox.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 05:09:15 -0000 > On 27 May 2015, at 17:06, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >=20 > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 04:49:52PM -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I have a process that is eating up 6 GB of swap space. At that = point, FreeBSD 9.3 terminates a process. However, occasionally its not = the one eating up the space. When I manually quit the process then the = swap space returns to a few KB used. The system runs fine after that. >>=20 >> I have very little knowledge of what this process is doing internally = but would like to know what might be causing this issue. There are 5 of = these processes running (parent plus 4 children). Normally each uses = about 90 MB RES/SIZE. However when the problem occurs they are about = 2GB RES/SIZE each. The system has 4 GB memory. I thought that a malloc = would not be able to grab that much memory, even with swapping as it has = to be in memory. Could a malloc cause this growth in process size or = need I look elsewhere? >=20 > There's a difference between "real" memory and "virtual" memory. The > malloc() call allocates _virtual_ memory. So the maximum amount that = can be > malloc'd and used would be the size of your real memory plus the size = of > your swap space. If I am understanding correctly, then it appears that a process can = actually allocate enough memory to eat up the swap space. Then I need = to find out why that process is allocating so much memory. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 05:26:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1AB4208 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 05:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-x232.google.com (mail-pd0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7313FBC5 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 05:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelsprivate@gmail.com) Received: by pdbki1 with SMTP id ki1so33605754pdb.1 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:26:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GatJaUmi1jDxAbt5kXc3buZsM0D8kHeqbr8PI+ISmVw=; b=azJIxI/jbLbYs7HSIv9Ck/zwA66uKPtkUQoSYcDgTAI8yEzkADPEf/wAKIzhdoFkaZ rNdfKzroiQA8mw72iUzGIqR5vEN4gTHgdOkHm6wnzmFI9Czb+Sf8Z0TcR/mzy4pZvmp3 JxniV2tx0E8WwEQBacDCtVYF4yYPZM9E9nAn4qdGE9uDKlA4bAKvJN+oZvDy0cvYbSyh F9Vql6wNxoH6x2wIN358qa8htFRAqug0AD7ko7Pbz2F7QWQwbB2dZ7yfT6iHh0bFcsnk vZSccQvhvJXBmju8wVJEizhnQGPIm2xJZ1UVEkbZsHu9IhzEdiAadewbmAKg3Yhr59aJ 9XRQ== X-Received: by 10.66.156.198 with SMTP id wg6mr2132381pab.126.1432790767926; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:26:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.96.36 with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:25:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6F843A4D-8D2D-4DE2-B90E-A8033BEC1500@lafn.org> References: <1CD13C1C-5344-4909-A061-F25FBB86AFF9@lafn.org> <20150528000655.GA15385@neutralgood.org> <6F843A4D-8D2D-4DE2-B90E-A8033BEC1500@lafn.org> From: Michael Schuster Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 07:25:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Swap exhaustion To: Doug Hardie Cc: kpneal@pobox.com, FreeBSD - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 05:26:08 -0000 Hi, On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Doug Hardie wrote: > If I am understanding correctly, then it appears that a process can > actually allocate enough memory to eat up the swap space. Then I need to > find out why that process is allocating so much memory. Thanks. one scenario that comes to mind is memory leak - I'd guess at a code path where a previously allocated chunk or memory isn't properly free()d. I'd start debugging using the information in malloc(3). regards Michael -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 08:06:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C86283E9 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 08:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0E278B for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 08:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.7/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4S86O76095935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 May 2015 01:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: Swap exhaustion From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 01:06:23 -0700 Cc: kpneal@pobox.com, FreeBSD - Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1CD13C1C-5344-4909-A061-F25FBB86AFF9@lafn.org> <20150528000655.GA15385@neutralgood.org> <6F843A4D-8D2D-4DE2-B90E-A8033BEC1500@lafn.org> To: Michael Schuster X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 08:06:27 -0000 > On 27 May 2015, at 22:25, Michael Schuster = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Doug Hardie wrote: > If I am understanding correctly, then it appears that a process can = actually allocate enough memory to eat up the swap space. Then I need = to find out why that process is allocating so much memory. Thanks. >=20 > one scenario that comes to mind is memory leak - I'd guess at a code = path where a previously allocated chunk or memory isn't properly = free()d. I'd start debugging using the information in malloc(3). The developer says that valgrind has been run on it extensively and no = leaks have been found. I suspect this is a =E2=80=9Cfeature=E2=80=9D = that is being used in a way that was not expected and is using way more = memory than one would expect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 09:16:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F19C0B6 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84B3EA5A for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by wgme6 with SMTP id e6so30698833wgm.2 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 02:16:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kW9ip6Q1R9Dj/36IG7zKi7apjlzCwQV44S51Vbqqr7A=; b=EHxgV7Bq7pnNKeQj0m6bfdePmTi6Af8u+b1Qr6cUfw5tgk+WuV/DVX8GzoOA/QnVrd 33mtSXwwrVYKGpYa067J9ZXBZ9ufMxC1ofGBmXBrGbmNI9RQLOl0zy9pu94be/tPmq4z l9LusSF5uRUVrMT8Sd72FrYVnCFyDnMrxRGTckyFioJDXivX6H5yko9h1l3zjY4qAAVS uk7Egw+eL9kETeTwR2nH+hssNMOHGLd5p/vurWaCZEIT33vdqyORjG0iPv1XFvkLM0ft ukkjs+dX6dHwXOXbs7kfN5HmT6r3+SWm8Mz5oZq+u/Oc8cTts7i0uuD42aupkqOPXkGV Bdrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.19.100 with SMTP id d4mr57047149wie.95.1432804580953; Thu, 28 May 2015 02:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.210.149 with HTTP; Thu, 28 May 2015 02:16:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home> <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 10:16:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS From: krad To: Jon Radel Cc: Baho Utot , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 09:16:23 -0000 Yep it should work but is rather pointless, as a 3 way mirror would be far simpler and probably better performing On 27 May 2015 at 21:42, Jon Radel wrote: > On 5/27/15 3:27 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > >> >> I do understand how ZFS works I am using it (ZFS RAID-Z1) on three boxen >> but not as the root file system. >> >> >> > >> >> You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two parity >> drives >> > You either contradict yourself or you have a shaky understanding of the > word "cannot". Not recommended, quite possibly not the best way to use 3 > disks, sure.... Cannot, well, not so much. > > Personally, I think this discussion might have gotten off to a much better > start if you'd started out by telling us that you couldn't use the > installer because you weren't in a position to use your entire disks; all > of which is entirely absent in your initial mail. > > Several people have now given you links to various cookbooks for doing > what I understand you want to do, or more precisely, as close as anything > published is likely to be to meeting your exact needs. Pick one and see how > it goes. I'd suggest really good backups first. > > --Jon Radel > jon@radel.com > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 09:57:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80B28ABD for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r100500b@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AE1263E for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r100500b@gmail.com) Received: by wicmc15 with SMTP id mc15so118331577wic.1 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 02:57:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u4GlMCrqlXrj8OqfH4lyq5j0hMz3FA/EdvAy/H3hW7A=; b=ms4DuWWFV/+iDiR5XzrwDwV/cYKyL8EI0DypR0VkGCKvG0ejsul3EtP28+J0qyjN2i YwGZaeD+OxY9muJwOzZtzBAeisPg0H96rtmBrW7FWyak1xtQg55EgcFS/WwbXHGkCMHG eCzGL4lVlikrsgWChJfpb++fxPW4t5BovF/8uGR7iaEd2EkLwvVIdAPSo97MSM0e+H2J dWFceELqbL1mfMczGW8zdaGZczh/XOBHjstU/C93TlliVAq8D3yRQKj/tsf2ODHzSwUd uL51aG7LGjmHusqphbc2Fczi9sEsov0DAv4v3Sixg9lxP2tgmTszH6OM0BdcQhwHEO0P mzFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.110.67 with SMTP id hy3mr3794273wjb.87.1432807056654; Thu, 28 May 2015 02:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.88.167 with HTTP; Thu, 28 May 2015 02:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 12:57:36 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD php (cli) in host system with application jail From: =?UTF-8?B?0KDRg9GB0LvQsNC9INCR0YPRgNGF0LDQvdC+0LI=?= To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 09:57:38 -0000 Case: platform with FreeBSD (10.1) on the host system and multiple application jails. One of the important goals for multiple jail - multiple php versions. Users have access only in host system. Now I try to figure out next question, how to provide privileges none users php-cli on the host system? In most cases, it is used for users crontabs. I do not like the way to install one more php in host system. I think in this way, with some system aliases like: #!/usr/local/bin/bash C=" for i in "$@"; do C="$C \"${i//\"/\\\"}\"" done sudo jexec-U `whoami` 18 sh-c "$C" convert users command. But i do not sure in this issue. Have somebody faced with this question? What are the bottlenecks can be expected in the proposed solution? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 16:16:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE70F348 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from out-004.lax.mailroute.net (004.lax.mailroute.net [199.89.1.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE7751DC for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by out-004.lax.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lyDbY5rjhz15JtD; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:13:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from out-004.lax.mailroute.net ([199.89.1.7]) by localhost (004.lax.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id ogviNUQjoZzp; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by out-004.lax.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lyDbX67Lyz15Jmg; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8A03C16FF; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: krad , Baho Utot , FreeBSD Questions , Jon Radel Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home> <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home> <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> <20150528141312.GA54499@neutralgood.org> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.2.8.8; tzolkin = 8 Lamat; haab = 16 Zip Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 09:13:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20150528141312.GA54499@neutralgood.org> (kpneal@pobox.com's message of "Thu, 28 May 2015 10:13:12 -0400") Message-ID: <86y4k8adeo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:16:58 -0000 >>>>> "kpneal" == kpneal writes: kpneal> So, yes, a three-way mirror will perform better than a 3-drive kpneal> RAIDz2. But doesn't that create a write-hole? Or are the mirrors atomically updated, and the system on a restart after a crash can determine by chronology which one or two drives contains the latest data? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 16:21:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2B73543 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B37536C for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 16:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: by wicmx19 with SMTP id mx19so152584411wic.0 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=34U08yW0zyqWIB0Rlt8Rx6E+Qq4We6mZBiQL15IvfwY=; b=KZrohBxuFShx6ixgeV+0KeuZkZddxQECUctXrr275mdycmuN7ciS1ZbS31x5nsB/E0 ZSkc21DOLD8jjrQcyVK5qPL0TpChhsZKs2PtlGRU0G4ODZRSRogfi0bMcWWb3Q2HaoWw UM9PLmy76zPQzWbU8nYLLenTLYsxgaotv9+vTKOhMj0ABIfAQVTX3w2O/XU6HZOReW5n wt6DMSQOryPpb55WCyoynh6uXq42HU2wWy9tJKszctcT03DcRWO7MDTTa2Ztg8yGmeoT ahRO1iEJXI8Rf39HHL2jQqXqYM33aQ/rnhbtomYKNMltxcoN8+rhkpfTu5JzgQF4kxZl xliA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.74.68 with SMTP id r4mr17670767wiv.69.1432830063868; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: fluca1978@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.80.163 with HTTP; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> References: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:21:03 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: E7LYbq53lzVsgWik925e6e_APsA Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? From: Luca Ferrari To: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" Cc: Jaime Kikpole , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:21:05 -0000 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC wrote: > I do. I do it not so much for any performance benefits, if any, ZFS offe= rs, but more for data integrity. You need to tune it since the VM based di= sks are not the same as physical disks. I run into performance issues when= the =E2=80=9Cdisk=E2=80=9D gets to a certain usage level (in terms of used= capacity). I'm not sure ZFS on a virtual disk will help a lot on a disk based corruption, but I'm not a guru in this subject. I personally tend to use ufs on my virtual machines, relying more on the host file system for no data corruption. This allows me to have smaller machines and use the ram for other stuff. But this is my personal point of view. As pointed out in this thread: tuning ZFS on virtual machine is not the same as tuning it on real disks (and this is pretty much valid for every tuning operation in virtual machines). Luca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 21:35:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E3BB895 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 21:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from out-006.ord.mailroute.net (006.ord.mailroute.net [199.89.2.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 740D9CC6 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 21:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by out-006.ord.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lyMhC4t9yzgYG3; Thu, 28 May 2015 21:32:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from out-006.ord.mailroute.net ([199.89.2.9]) by localhost (006.ord.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id MUX09ZoFBRGA; Thu, 28 May 2015 21:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by out-006.ord.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lyMh14WdkzgYbX; Thu, 28 May 2015 21:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AA97E1948; Thu, 28 May 2015 14:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: krad , Baho Utot , FreeBSD Questions , Jon Radel Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com> <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home> <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> <20150528141312.GA54499@neutralgood.org> <86y4k8adeo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20150528163016.GA80674@neutralgood.org> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.2.8.8; tzolkin = 8 Lamat; haab = 16 Zip Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:32:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20150528163016.GA80674@neutralgood.org> (kpneal@pobox.com's message of "Thu, 28 May 2015 12:30:16 -0400") Message-ID: <86siag9ym8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 21:35:23 -0000 >>>>> "kpneal" == kpneal writes: kpneal> The practical upshot of all of this is that there is no "write kpneal> hole", for mirrors or for RAID. Thanks for the clear explanation! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 04:50:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 322458C9 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 04:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5271143F for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 04:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YyCFA-0000uj-Re for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:50:05 +0200 Received: from 171.5.87.171 ([171.5.87.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:50:04 +0200 Received: from myawaddy by 171.5.87.171 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:50:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: AnthonyL Subject: Re: is the forum down? Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 04:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <555F3C13.7010306@jrscorp.com> <555F4060.1020007@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.5.87.171 User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 04:50:09 -0000 On Fri, 22 May 2015 15:42:40 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/22/15 15:24, J2R2 P wrote: >> I have not been able to see any pages in the forum since yesterday >> whether I click a link from a search engine of navigating directly to >> the forum from within freebsd.org website. > > Seems fine to me. The did recently update the TLS configuration of the > web server so it now scores 'A+' on the Qualys test site -- which > however means that some older browsers or mobile platforms may have > problems. Try again with a recent version of FireFox or Chrome. > > Cheers I was also having some trouble lat week. It seems to be working fine now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 07:37:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 936D64A6 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 07:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 279C71A07 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 07:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by wicmx19 with SMTP id mx19so8974300wic.0 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 00:37:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZSFSZBQbhC1Q2ZUxb4VT3u+eYkL8xd7S1oUTNAc/VRM=; b=ll47kLoajyBYevZ4NUfwqCY6mi2MwDTZkeMM++2eYkbflNJUvxHzsgWzQAV7XPdGCk Jff4LIu5AJvAkoU+D3/d4zr25HoGVMU//Zt7ap595e8BSWW2ib/V1LSOYJ50N5QFkNCl VyFCabDIZu/TtBWdYYu1Xlc3KpUxvUQNGe3yJg8N3Kyf/5TZ/vMj5HgkCfJX6xAKzgpV TioR1ShdKJaqm4H/UIsEBsx3oVsWZ4A+YOBomFD5iBF2KNXKV00/+do6Cz8EHQ+4quQE NLVGIhhjxZJhPCGT1u72Kkp8SHt1Kg7QT5WIB6U729xzkea2YQujBD3XMHCF2SAeCdFl kxpw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.218.195 with SMTP id pi3mr3725141wic.71.1432885051618; Fri, 29 May 2015 00:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.210.149 with HTTP; Fri, 29 May 2015 00:37:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9C96EB4B-A230-4A26-BDC3-067367A61E34@shire.net> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? From: krad To: Luca Ferrari Cc: "Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Jaime Kikpole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 07:37:33 -0000 in a vm i think its more a manageability thing for me. Its not about performance as if i wanted that I would be bare metal. Boot environments, being able to roll back specific areas of the system are tools not to be sniffed at. On 28 May 2015 at 17:21, Luca Ferrari wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Chad Leigh Shire.Net LLC > wrote: > > I do. I do it not so much for any performance benefits, if any, ZFS > offers, but more for data integrity. You need to tune it since the VM > based disks are not the same as physical disks. I run into performance > issues when the =E2=80=9Cdisk=E2=80=9D gets to a certain usage level (in = terms of used > capacity). > > I'm not sure ZFS on a virtual disk will help a lot on a disk based > corruption, but I'm not a guru in this subject. > I personally tend to use ufs on my virtual machines, relying more on > the host file system for no data corruption. This allows me to have > smaller machines and use the ram for other stuff. > But this is my personal point of view. > > As pointed out in this thread: tuning ZFS on virtual machine is not > the same as tuning it on real disks (and this is pretty much valid for > every tuning operation in virtual machines). > > Luca > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 09:05:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45E1F3FD for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 022F81EA5 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.139.2] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YyGEL-0002vr-Im for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:05:29 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4T95SZF002928 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:05:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t4T95SkF002927 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:05:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 11:05:28 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: easy to use WYSIWIG editor for VT102 Message-ID: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.139.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 09:05:42 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for an easy to use WYSIWIG editor which could be used on VT102 terminals by my 9 years old son (to let him write mails and text files). 'ee' is an option, but maybe there is something more fancy supporting this type of terminals. Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 +49-176-38902045 "Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden." "Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias", Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 09:26:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 648FBB7B for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469ED132D for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DEA9E374 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 02:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4744FA806C; Fri, 29 May 2015 02:26:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=LcDCyMBrGi6g7bzXYT+AP7IZeLU=; b= tTrZfm3LLKcxWQdvVsLurC8oPtWsSsv+zNs15CbduplzkmxPmAtbCPG8ciaiUkpR 44AR5d4M/p7RFUhQgkWlNiy0dwLdLWjMuTKcP6p/QUZ93kFwGGp7qMp5t55sDJPu bGiBinmo7BgZULtA2Smox9I9Dh2dzsPhH89kl9YLzLA= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (114-198-63-194.dyn.iinet.net.au [114.198.63.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA600A8061; Fri, 29 May 2015 02:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0CECDB93; Fri, 29 May 2015 19:26:01 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 19:26:01 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Jaime Kikpole Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? Message-ID: <20150529092600.GA32731@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 09:26:17 -0000 On Wed 2015-05-27 13:31:05 UTC-0400, Jaime Kikpole (jkikpole@cairodurham.org) wrote: > Can I run a FreeBSD system in a virtual machine and use ZFS? The VM > environment is a commercial system based on Linux's KVM, if that > matters. ZFS works better if it has "raw" access to the hard drive, in terms of performance and error detection, but will still work fine without it. Either way you'll still get all the usual features ZFS provides, such as snapshots, dedup, compression, etc. Some virtual machine hosts can provide raw disk access. Keep in mind that large capacity ZFS datasets can require several GBs of memory to work well, particularly if you're using dedup, so you'll need to adjust your VM guest's memory appropriately. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 11:27:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75613E16 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laa@kamstrup.com) Received: from mail.kamstrup.com (mail.kamstrup.com [93.167.225.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.kamstrup.com", Issuer "Entrust Certification Authority - L1C" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E6BA1082 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laa@kamstrup.com) Received: from EXCHANGE2010.kamstrup.dk ([::1]) by Exchange2010.kamstrup.dk ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0169.001; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:26:19 +0200 From: Lars Alex Pedersen To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: ESP TFC supported in freebsd? Thread-Topic: ESP TFC supported in freebsd? Thread-Index: AdCaAkiByKwYvBXiRv61mBbMcD3Fsw== Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 11:26:18 +0000 Message-ID: <943EEADB13F8624DA5F1F646AD8B111DF62BAF02@Exchange2010.kamstrup.dk> Accept-Language: da-DK, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.20.13.32] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 11:27:32 -0000 Hi guys. I'm trying to enable of Traffic Flow Confidentiality (TFC) in stro= ngswan, which should be supported by looking in man: http://www.manualpages.de/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-ports-9.0-RELEASE/man5/ipsec.conf= .5.html Section 2.7 in the following URL describes the implementation of Traffic Fl= ow Confidentiality (TFC) Padding. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4303#page-17 Can one of you guys tell me if this is supported in freebsd, because when I= try to use it for strongswan I get following message: ESP_TFC_PADDING_NOT_SUPPORTED, not using ESPv3 TFC padding Best regards Lars Pedersen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 11:37:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12015FBD for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raimund.sacherer@logitravel.com) Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net (pina.toolfactory.net [213.97.158.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7BA12C8 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raimund.sacherer@logitravel.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DCA177BFE; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:30:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (formentor.toolfactory.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id EmCakBVCKxpf; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:30:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1716E177D21; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:30:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at logpmzimmta01v.toolfactory.net Received: from formentor.toolfactory.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (formentor.toolfactory.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Cok1QHboki7C; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:30:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xorrigo.toolfactory.net (xorrigo.toolfactory.net [192.168.2.210]) by formentor.toolfactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EAA177BFE; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:30:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:30:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Raimund Sacherer Reply-To: Raimund Sacherer To: Baho Utot Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1728302872.441659.1432899049216.JavaMail.zimbra@logitravel.com> In-Reply-To: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.2.213] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.0.8_GA_6184 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF7 (Mac)/8.0.8_GA_6184) Thread-Topic: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS Thread-Index: 9IaQu7f8qAPQtALwgU+jRlBkTpdsNg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 11:37:45 -0000 Hello, Not sure if someone has mentioned it, but here: https://calomel.org/zfs_freebsd_root_install.html you have a very nifty install script for a USB memstick installation process. It basically does what the installer would do, but yo modify the ZFS setup the way you want it. best Ray ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Baho Utot" > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:26:55 PM > Subject: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS > I am looking for a way to install release-10.1 onto ZFS. > Are there any Howtos available? > I have found wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/UFSBoot. > I think it is out of date as it is using fixit. > I am looking for something that I can use that drops to manually > partitioning during the install. > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 12:07:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D9261F0 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 12:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633461A6E for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 12:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CCE68C065; Fri, 29 May 2015 05:07:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=fH5JAV+aqlk7l9UqLNguC7WGHHQ=; b= pSMoXOzLPzzKMnjH5LOkpDFDxtI5UCrERbLcAyRxwFdttxP9TAyuRKH0r22+6UJ+ Ai+lyq5+rZ4DXz0dvkpxAt1pboy2lP2jkFZIaTf5uK/V7RUO1PSb8o3bU7NWemnC sNTjIa2fjWNz4ILCLSH3ukgza3HxnkSYPfgYVC8txJs= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (114-198-63-194.dyn.iinet.net.au [114.198.63.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0E0A68C05D; Fri, 29 May 2015 05:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08793BB5; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:07:20 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 22:07:19 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: easy to use WYSIWIG editor for VT102 Message-ID: <20150529120719.GA33714@ozzmosis.com> References: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:07:24 -0000 On Fri 2015-05-29 11:05:28 UTC+0200, Matthias Apitz (guru@unixarea.de) wrote: > I'm looking for an easy to use WYSIWIG editor which could be used on > VT102 terminals by my 9 years old son (to let him write mails and text files). > 'ee' is an option, but maybe there is something more fancy supporting > this type of terminals. Since the late '80s the term "WYSIWYG" has implied a graphical bitmapped display, proportional fonts, accurate scaling and so on, none of which is provided by a VT102 terminal. There are alternatives to ee, for example emacs, nano & jed, but none of them are WYSIWYG (and neither is ee). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 12:12:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A219A52D for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 12:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simplerezo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A9501CA7 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 12:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simplerezo@gmail.com) Received: by obbea2 with SMTP id ea2so55615688obb.3 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 05:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rOGT9DOgvwsATBQ/tkVDAKLtL6cRJySTGusa3t1e53Y=; b=QzsNGMlIniHxQtsz3eabUHBKwXGFZtiAlrw8V4OWJyhrSplDIhbIKDCiWkGVAd0qnU gxgA4Hk/9sj4B5h0q3azjamVjGnTv1x5hCWRwPIEQ/0GLJYAoKrPKTPBsxhtOcjLU0wn nxwSk4MTSRyuiGHyYFXuwGqm3X6q8bycjxcC276t0e/byKxZkhUI5QyjMKS78iPW1CAI XRDL2JnGoSGXhiXtGVWTrcOGwm14lPOkRQa580tbXC0fNfC8b+z6DiZ+kDIzLkC2HyIo 43eSCVW5a7uB0AzDsyc0oGbiqUWIoCbIS6eeQ15zLyKQKD/H0qWbdJYNvodJSy/N2dAA 21Xw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.20.195 with SMTP id p3mr6802426obe.6.1432901575725; Fri, 29 May 2015 05:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.77.66 with HTTP; Fri, 29 May 2015 05:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 14:12:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: High "flows" value in vmstat -z From: SimpleRezo Backup To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:12:56 -0000 Hello, We are monitoring a lot of variables on all servers we are managing under FreeBSD. One of them is reporting a high "flows" (USED closed to LIMIT and FAIL high) value in "vmstat -z": $ vmstat -z | \grep -e ITEM -e flows ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQ FAIL SLEEP flows: 56, 348192, 328398, 19794, 601404,578976, 0 I can't find any details about this item... I think it's a replacement for ip4flow and ip6flow in previous FreeBSD versions (server is using FBSD 10.1 with custom kernel), but cannot find information about those items neither. Could someone explain me what it is and that could be wrong? Here some more informations: $ grep -i ether /var/run/dmesg.boot bge0: mem 0xd90a0000-0xd90affff,0xd90b0000-0xd90bffff,0xd90c0000-0xd90cffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 bge0: Ethernet address: 74:86:7a:d0:0a:5c bge1: mem 0xd90d0000-0xd90dffff,0xd90e0000-0xd90effff,0xd90f0000-0xd90fffff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1 bge1: Ethernet address: 74:86:7a:d0:0a:5e $ netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Opkts Oerrs Coll eth0 1500 74:86:7a:d0:0a:5c 168954708 0 0 143226889 0 0 eth0 - 192.168.14.0 cosedia 96887104 - - 120785904 - - eth1 1500 74:86:7a:d0:0a:5e 103193946 0 0 77942787 0 0 eth1 - 82.231.225.0 bne75-5-82-231-22 8459404 - - 12833636 - - <...> $ netstat -m 1026/3294/4320 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 1024/1772/2796/1017080 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 1024/1759 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/70/70/508539 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/150678 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/84756 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 2304K/4647K/6952K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 5153 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile Another think: it could be related or not, but because of some Apple hardware on network, this host is handling a lot of "arp moves". Regards -- Clement Moulin SimpleRezo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 12:13:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A39B702 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 12:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@jimkeener.com) Received: from mail-qk0-f179.google.com (mail-qk0-f179.google.com [209.85.220.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A2FE1CC2 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 12:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@jimkeener.com) Received: by qkx62 with SMTP id 62so43578757qkx.3 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 05:13:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:from:date:to :message-id; bh=1v12J8WUNJRGryMZhFadkfH51eaIepVPotJvzq+jtV4=; b=cMUVB5TWBoXPtoKQbarY+rH797rYyU2U9cM4ArzOrUfLJ4WZN+smI9ArtzSYUwn8mJ Hh/OPGYSkbU2Xnmp2ElHAbYRDiBdYUSwqkwIVYNLyWFA7GzIeKcHp1MLs5/gnSIxAwhJ BOk5fw3H5Ao3ETqCk8ymvN941JhbJiS9w5Q+N3IHbzi3+8qYqGnciHDx9I6yd4Dtntf6 aGez98k7LuxoHEpS4UqEHwOZ0ng8qbZla7INCsK62pN4WktzWKUffewbs0nAfNThmBMt +KwG8yEA1GjkFZ39hkyDpEUCuXtNPcx0eqiiNhbhHFhTyxSdBDqlFqFSakrxY4b9v4vo YZPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk/+kjEjFp7YwjKE5IbI2DgF/2KQc2pB4/xhKg5AQjpPZmXj2moNsamkJxtsBZVbMtTxgtV X-Received: by 10.140.34.162 with SMTP id l31mr9280659qgl.14.1432901624041; Fri, 29 May 2015 05:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wendy.mesh.local (pool-74-98-33-226.pitbpa.east.verizon.net. [74.98.33.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 195sm2566013qhr.13.2015.05.29.05.13.42 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 29 May 2015 05:13:43 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <20150529120719.GA33714@ozzmosis.com> References: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> <20150529120719.GA33714@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: easy to use WYSIWIG editor for VT102 From: James Keener Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 08:13:39 -0400 To: andrew clarke , Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <33FB9D03-B021-477C-BDF8-F224FF04D6FF@jimkeener.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:13:51 -0000 Some editors (eg vim and emacs) will bold, italicize, or color markdown, textile, and restructured text. Jim On May 29, 2015 8:07:19 AM EDT, andrew clarke wrote: >On Fri 2015-05-29 11:05:28 UTC+0200, Matthias Apitz (guru@unixarea.de) >wrote: > >> I'm looking for an easy to use WYSIWIG editor which could be used on >> VT102 terminals by my 9 years old son (to let him write mails and >text files). >> 'ee' is an option, but maybe there is something more fancy supporting >> this type of terminals. > >Since the late '80s the term "WYSIWYG" has implied a graphical >bitmapped display, proportional fonts, accurate scaling and so on, >none of which is provided by a VT102 terminal. > >There are alternatives to ee, for example emacs, nano & jed, but none >of them are WYSIWYG (and neither is ee). >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 14:18:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E55A3EED for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E8651AEA for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from [192.168.0.143] ([95.91.226.171]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MgKoE-1YmhcG0bBO-00NkJJ; Fri, 29 May 2015 16:18:14 +0200 Message-ID: <55687524.70001@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 16:18:12 +0200 From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jd1008 , FreeBSD Users Subject: Re: Replacing cpu References: <5560B408.4000601@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5560B408.4000601@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:G6iZOnLirj7/pLjPiOLNc1fOVqoegYqLDlSxzhu6L66zlUeKCME KSnryFFehMkzNxxULWYwQVa2ved5yO2pFl3UNZ+LxmRqXH7j0EPgolaZbYmWO16WLqJC/fM bkIO94TPz0mVEP6C8X/jqXVkrTsowvBfsikHnqOvZ/jo/vxQGe4pK+eR705kEK2/hCYKPRl mZHkLdQq9A4cqotmMZlsg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:vJJBvypsOWE=:v7BO1PivyS2pXCazWxD0aq kTSl1BD+teyYH1DSIw7e8NOSysQKyCPPOXgeQFLIgFFKlYvKrOlk8BpE3jOGv7uJKLS1QMeYP UNoIltSOV7CLYDgu0Wof99yxHShFYN1gDD4nEJgN780bwEeDXZQBVdnZAUVJ20he626dRjuzM duD0SrOqlTsJsVBGNOev1CpMIGoKHjJ/iO1Mgm1cXu9kQS9b4XlG5jR5L4igxLc1X9ZbJdstm GDMPSAjfndL8hlNUv91ujSZRU1r4gq5hrOpvAKBBDG5JmcS8OyGKkNOJA6FB3Qcwi0sWfAgrS FKYza9qiqyqSKQrf0t3UJa2l+JGsy8d15TfHz42pikDRDvgDCC0RRVhxl8O01M65rTxy/+dzY B2EUeoo5LWxeZJNfx/WEu0bE10adnz7/U4HBuYgNoSp4ii64l1dcXfrnhcf48yHv9EWvWU83M 5iGfZjkpmanydEy+6ItTFSv7crzJWZ2VgihgKecxQv7hr8WcXWdAi+JxIvmEWd7elYI0txo7y h8XvDxXovdBw6prXyruuFbfElyffuN6NfgjJ1dNNFcpTy8VvP6BB4G/v0SfpV5htUCDLO3gIw D94MY+d0xUHJth/MlKmFQfj8FaAZ3Z739hINGEczMhiwzJ3XacQWKkjJzDAVFySnv4Kw0PYM7 nzQMELudj+8+jFw+Cvde+AAFpCU6ugqUmjLp6ZEkIFMgKv38/sG1uQk7xaQNE+K496H1mCAAc Oi2Ws8MF2syHCEx/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 14:18:19 -0000 On 05/23/15 19:08, jd1008 wrote: > I have an HP laptop with > AMD Turion II X2 mobile processor RM-72 / 2.1 GHz CPU, Socket S1. > It is now causing blue screens in windows, and freezes > fbsd, pclinuxos, knoppix, fedora live. > > I have run the x86 mem test for more than a day, and > found no problems with the 4GB ram (2GB X 2). > > I am wondering why the memtest does not freeze???? > could it be that only one core is causing the problem? > > At any rate I wanted to replace it with > AMD Turion II Ultra M660 TMM660DBO23GQ 2.7GHz Dual-Core Mobile CPU > Processor, Socket S1 > > Will I be running into any problems? > Would the heat be an issue? > > These are the full technical data on it: > > General information I'm think, i'm too late, but make a test with http://www.superpi.net/ (not testet, but super pi was in the past a good program) or http://www.cpuburnin.com/ (same problem, not testet in the last time) Start for every core one instance to bring up your CPU to 100% working. Greetings From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 14:20:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3495103 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 730FA1B8D for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from [192.168.0.143] ([95.91.226.171]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lh7PL-1ZV93D04m7-00oXzN; Fri, 29 May 2015 16:20:36 +0200 Message-ID: <556875B1.2000203@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 16:20:33 +0200 From: "lokadamus@gmx.de" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie , FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Swap exhaustion References: <1CD13C1C-5344-4909-A061-F25FBB86AFF9@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <1CD13C1C-5344-4909-A061-F25FBB86AFF9@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:qxTVz4QbmQ8I21JwuOgrkvT6V7sVmmFHP5xRT1w3BTgpnWmRW/P B9hkC0tw+5aVUzA3i/vHKkhH6JDByo+sVLxQ6lZfyeDWh4pYi7Fffp2B9eZkYaUmXx6r4wA AP8HTMMlQOY3cNJ131bnlC7aj4iUZmb6zkIoA08MSSMYkoqo1iKsPsJIvnVlfuCOBmEUq6Z eh0j2j4N96M1X/ElkfNrg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:SvY6zDEKxWA=:N8YYTQRhW0uOGSph38HIVk XkNIgTR1kGjeVpu4gJ7o1PWiM92ihiSPQcJcox8o1MAcHKG3SPj65u94TxmvLlgr7R8qEGGVp broI66+Sr3WLJ3uWrDHOW8xRt82SZHhIT15pzkrYNNzDlDGmuaQs1jGsDKShZqVi89NKcm9NP 6NLZXLhUzB/q0vAMkuAPDt1rFBghzzuhR6ukGzx9FmRw2yz39Y9DRwZ2CF2zZeat3kJoPE0J2 vNJAth9xz0yow2KQ5Qnjg1YfewkF0irFWcmljueRoxx2G9E3eYrHSMZCKhHhV1u6eUaRE8TAh CCb22XiiZvAeaOueSq2DF3FlPjHYVirDaHo487CP6cD0NsL2kxxJD/FQKgqvzoWHjVHDRcfqN sqT3IE4Fzrh3z8WDzskq4LD7Z2De1nZav4GB5A1KzaL0YVFpBFa8xJFzh8c3W3xgj3GDC2s/Z Czs75Q8msocZRvX8aTKhYIaiFcoDenT7kllOQOU1XNb7JqHVjrVnLTAUliA604DrqF0xh75YN oxdl3RikTT48kS0L1xL6hF9mETpTZXvQYSXJ3Of8RgL9E6FlyM6skObFy4AImKOpvM/oLLtib quaYGqYDubHY+rpc0c8hetGbdp5du4+drvTYoScpK7yl4Z/cpFO9HahQliRmGjYDA6cqGBP/W Mhj0ipauOQHAYXdSHwMj/vYr27A5XlDYMdmoXKXZ9xFO4KMInJwoSilU1g8QSZZM5A4ZYlCsr 15BlYLWmVdDWMs8F X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 14:20:40 -0000 On 05/28/15 01:49, Doug Hardie wrote: > I have a process that is eating up 6 GB of swap space. At that point, FreeBSD 9.3 terminates a process. However, occasionally its not the one eating up the space. When I manually quit the process then the swap space returns to a few KB used. The system runs fine after that. > > I have very little knowledge of what this process is doing internally but would like to know what might be causing this issue. There are 5 of these processes running (parent plus 4 children). Normally each uses about 90 MB RES/SIZE. However when the problem occurs they are about 2GB RES/SIZE each. The system has 4 GB memory. I thought that a malloc would not be able to grab that much memory, even with swapping as it has to be in memory. Could a malloc cause this growth in process size or need I look elsewhere? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Look with ps ax or ps aux to understand, how much memory a program takes. Or with top it is possible to see memory usage. Greetings From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 14:53:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC6A8231 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8A431433 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B9239DC33 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 07:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15686-08 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tejay-2.local (cpe-75-82-83-187.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.83.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A831839DC25 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55687BE9.40803@networktest.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 07:47:05 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Missing boot loader (was: Re: creating a virtual clone) References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 14:53:55 -0000 On 4/6/15 9:28 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > My solution is http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/technotes/archives/2015/01/30/how-to_clone_a_freebsd_virtual_machine_on_vmware/index.html > certainly not the best/fastest, but it works. Thanks for this. After following the clone instructions, restore appears to work, but the system comes up with a "Missing boot loader" error. This is perhaps because the next-to-last step from the live CD is: cd / mount -o rw /dev/da0p1 /mnt gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/pmbr -p /mnt/boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 And that returns "/dev/da0p1: Operation not permitted" even though da0p1 is the target system's root/boot partition. I've pasted below the complete procedure. What's missing? Thanks in advance for troubleshooting clues. dn 1. Create the virtual machine with vSphere client 2. Boot VM using FreeBSD live CD 3. Partition disk (one ufs in da0p1, one swap in da0p2, do newfs on da0p1) 4. enable and start network interface on target VM: ifconfig em0 inet 1.1.1.2/24 5. mount root system on VM with 'mount /dev/da0p1 /mnt' 6. copy dump source filesystem using restore: cd /mnt ssh user@1.1.1.1 "cat /home/user/srcmachine.dump" | restore -r -f - cd / umount /mnt 7. enable and start network interface on target VM: ifconfig em0 inet 1.1.1.2/24 8. configure the bootloader: mount /dev/da0p1 /mnt gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/pmbr -p /mnt/boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 ((NOTE: Per the notes above, this step does not work.)) 9. Configure /mnt/etc/fstab to use /dev/da0p1 as root and /dev/da0p2 as swap > > Best regards, > > Olivier > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:43 AM, David Newman wrote: >> To test some new software, I'd like to replicate a 9.3-RELEASE machine >> and run it as a virtual machine (in this case inside VMware vSphere, but >> I'm open to using other hypervisors if this isn't possible with VMware). >> >> The 9.3 host is itself virtual, running as a VPS instance in a colo. >> >> What's the best way to do this? >> >> Thanks! >> >> dn >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 15:16:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13B17919 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E396B19FE for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=+qwaC0xgP636LQFbrZt2tI97rt/+xMCGRj95hu/f4Ck=; b=LI/NFu6KFTkrctIUwuVj4tl4xakpdMnbvqMUTQaRWfDSQtMLZLnibyozFAkHeVR6qsd7bYCDt8u8ceBDqfCmo2FhQ0unXLfjFJuKBZ4MIVrb92eW9cGgEJjsct6kKaAgMSgPalQ1fxgn2t3Hb0W4mCXNdkfh30I8C/DrQB3rWPo=; Received: from [114.121.165.8] (port=42539 helo=B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YyJOL-003iLS-6H; Fri, 29 May 2015 06:28:02 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 20:27:53 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: easy to use WYSIWIG editor for VT102 Message-ID: <20150529202753.1d08d38c@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> References: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 15:16:58 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:05:28 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: > I'm looking for an easy to use WYSIWIG editor which could be used on > VT102 terminals by my 9 years old son (to let him write mails and > text files). 'ee' is an option, but maybe there is something more > fancy supporting this type of terminals. > joe should also work. joe supports different command sets. One of them is compatible with WordStar. I liked WorfStar those days on this kind of terminals because of its command set. Of course, I am still using it but not on a terminal any more. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 15:46:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A23782EB for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 554111113 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 15:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4TFkIct004158 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 May 2015 09:46:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t4TFkIto004151; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:46:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 09:46:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Newman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing boot loader (was: Re: creating a virtual clone) In-Reply-To: <55687BE9.40803@networktest.com> Message-ID: References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> <55687BE9.40803@networktest.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 May 2015 09:46:19 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 15:46:27 -0000 On Fri, 29 May 2015, David Newman wrote: > On 4/6/15 9:28 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > >> My solution is http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/technotes/archives/2015/01/30/how-to_clone_a_freebsd_virtual_machine_on_vmware/index.html >> certainly not the best/fastest, but it works. > > Thanks for this. After following the clone instructions, restore appears > to work, but the system comes up with a "Missing boot loader" error. > > This is perhaps because the next-to-last step from the live CD is: > > cd / > mount -o rw /dev/da0p1 /mnt > gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/pmbr -p /mnt/boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 > > And that returns "/dev/da0p1: Operation not permitted" even though da0p1 > is the target system's root/boot partition. In this code, da0 is the source disk, where the bootcode files are read. It is mounted on /mnt. So there are two reasons that gpart cannot write bootcode to da0p1. First, it is mounted, and second, it is filesystem partition, not a freebsd-boot partition. The target disk cannot be da0p1. Maybe it is a simple typo, and either the second or third line was meant to be ada0 rather than da0. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 16:51:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A31819C for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 16:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 775C411AD for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 16:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B1E39DC33 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16519-09 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tejay-2.local (cpe-75-82-83-187.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.83.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B048B39DC25 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 09:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <556898FB.1080704@networktest.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 09:51:07 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing boot loader References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> <55687BE9.40803@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 16:51:10 -0000 On 5/29/15 8:46 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2015, David Newman wrote: > >> On 4/6/15 9:28 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> >>> My solution is >>> http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/technotes/archives/2015/01/30/how-to_clone_a_freebsd_virtual_machine_on_vmware/index.html >>> >>> certainly not the best/fastest, but it works. >> >> Thanks for this. After following the clone instructions, restore appears >> to work, but the system comes up with a "Missing boot loader" error. >> >> This is perhaps because the next-to-last step from the live CD is: >> >> cd / >> mount -o rw /dev/da0p1 /mnt >> gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/pmbr -p /mnt/boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 >> >> And that returns "/dev/da0p1: Operation not permitted" even though da0p1 >> is the target system's root/boot partition. > > In this code, da0 is the source disk, where the bootcode files are read. > It is mounted on /mnt. So there are two reasons that gpart cannot write > bootcode to da0p1. First, it is mounted, and second, it is filesystem > partition, not a freebsd-boot partition. > > The target disk cannot be da0p1. Maybe it is a simple typo, and either > the second or third line was meant to be ada0 rather than da0. Thanks for your email. Backstory: This VM is a dump/restore clone of another machine that has no separate boot partition. Here's /etc/fstab from the source machine: /dev/ada0p2 / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ada0p3 none swap sw 0 0 And on the new target VM: /dev/da0p1 / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/da0p2 none swap sw 0 0 I don't understand the bit about 'ada0', since 'gpart list' shows only da0 and two providers under it. The source machine has boot files in its root partition, under /boot. How can I get that working here? Thanks! dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 17:15:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84DFA638 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) Received: from sender163-mail.zoho.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.157]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7001C171F for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 17:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@zoho.com) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=pE/9H5+Rmbif3yB+jurs9FOG/Of9vIfYlKbEkqIXnpXM7LOQskCJWF0SxT481VyaxlH53DfpXYZw C/copO67Lvy55wBn0Qrz64ncKIN5wq5UFMD9756YGJSDyx2MzwGV Received: from WorkBox.Home (75-168-124-205.mpls.qwest.net [75.168.124.205]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1432919744933321.23205421710145; Fri, 29 May 2015 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:15:42 -0500 From: Brandon Wandersee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: easy to use WYSIWIG editor for VT102 Message-ID: <20150529171542.GA18043@WorkBox.Home> References: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> <20150529120719.GA33714@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150529120719.GA33714@ozzmosis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:15:53 -0000 On 05/29, andrew clarke wrote: > On Fri 2015-05-29 11:05:28 UTC+0200, Matthias Apitz (guru@unixarea.de) wrote: > > > I'm looking for an easy to use WYSIWIG editor which could be used on > > VT102 terminals by my 9 years old son (to let him write mails and text files). > > 'ee' is an option, but maybe there is something more fancy supporting > > this type of terminals. > > Since the late '80s the term "WYSIWYG" has implied a graphical > bitmapped display, proportional fonts, accurate scaling and so on, > none of which is provided by a VT102 terminal. More to the point, "WYSIWYG" inherently means a format *other than plain text,* as it incorporates both content and style. A WYSIWYG interface would not save in a format suitable for e-mail (I'm admittedly presuming this is what the OP meant by "mail"). -- =========================================== :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@zoho.com :: =========================================== "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 18:16:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6FD8BC7 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 18:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwolff@oar.net) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0129.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DBE817C7 for ; 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Thanks, Nick Wolff Backbone Routing Engineer Hostmaster OARnet 1224 Kinnear Road Columbus, OH 43212 Phone: (614) 247-1517 Fax: (614) 292-9390 email: nwolff@oar.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 19:22:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3815CA43 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 19:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA6F41845 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 19:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4TJMkxR057394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 May 2015 13:22:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t4TJMk9t057391; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:22:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:22:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Newman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing boot loader In-Reply-To: <556898FB.1080704@networktest.com> Message-ID: References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> <55687BE9.40803@networktest.com> <556898FB.1080704@networktest.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 May 2015 13:22:46 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 19:22:49 -0000 On Fri, 29 May 2015, David Newman wrote: > On 5/29/15 8:46 AM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Fri, 29 May 2015, David Newman wrote: >> >>> On 4/6/15 9:28 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: >>> >>>> My solution is >>>> http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/technotes/archives/2015/01/30/how-to_clone_a_freebsd_virtual_machine_on_vmware/index.html >>>> >>>> certainly not the best/fastest, but it works. >>> >>> Thanks for this. After following the clone instructions, restore appears >>> to work, but the system comes up with a "Missing boot loader" error. >>> >>> This is perhaps because the next-to-last step from the live CD is: >>> >>> cd / >>> mount -o rw /dev/da0p1 /mnt >>> gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/pmbr -p /mnt/boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 >>> >>> And that returns "/dev/da0p1: Operation not permitted" even though da0p1 >>> is the target system's root/boot partition. >> >> In this code, da0 is the source disk, where the bootcode files are read. >> It is mounted on /mnt. So there are two reasons that gpart cannot write >> bootcode to da0p1. First, it is mounted, and second, it is filesystem >> partition, not a freebsd-boot partition. >> >> The target disk cannot be da0p1. Maybe it is a simple typo, and either >> the second or third line was meant to be ada0 rather than da0. > > Thanks for your email. Backstory: This VM is a dump/restore clone of > another machine that has no separate boot partition. Here's /etc/fstab > from the source machine: > > /dev/ada0p2 / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/ada0p3 none swap sw 0 0 On a GPT disk, FreeBSD uses a freebsd-boot partition to hold the bootcode. This is binary code written to that partition, which does not have a filesystem. It does *not* contain /boot, which is instead part of /. Because the freebsd-boot partition is not needed after boot, it is not mentioned in /etc/fstab. Look at the output of 'gpart show' instead. > And on the new target VM: > > /dev/da0p1 / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/da0p2 none swap sw 0 0 This disk is mountable, but because there is no freebsd-boot partition, it will not be bootable. (Well, it might be possible to add a freebsd-boot partition after the existing partitions, but I'd avoid that because it is unusual and may come back to haunt you at the worst possible time.) > I don't understand the bit about 'ada0', since 'gpart list' shows only > da0 and two providers under it. The original disk was ada0, the new one is da0. If the partitions had been created properly on da0 (with p1 being the freebsd-boot partition), it would be possible to mount da0p2 (/), read the bootcode from a file in the /boot directory there, and write it to da0p1. > The source machine has boot files in its root partition, under /boot. Those are copies of the binary bootcode that must be written to a freebsd-boot partition to make a disk bootable. Disk Setup On FreeBSD: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 20:33:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF390BBE for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 20:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A345E198C for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 20:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683775E080; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:32:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=Ma9/cmMY0LzzwUJfGk1mWClRBNc=; b= wHSE7hXcf3wMk0zUrKIa1jkxcFFOIqoX++cimhjo2N3Ve7NwTuwE6sGq94TR2U5H s/pTP843NzWsRx6iOseoKouvZVD1ANrCmPVtcr5fttLv7DBJf124mpd/4saTJN8C AgDgMoaBEohgDNC1rVHkPUhaRH510MAZJVHCjN7a04I= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (114-198-63-194.dyn.iinet.net.au [114.198.63.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 220AC5E07D; Fri, 29 May 2015 13:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F48EC39; Sat, 30 May 2015 06:32:56 +1000 (AEST) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 06:32:56 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Jaime Kikpole Subject: Re: ZFS in a VM? Message-ID: <20150529203256.GA57654@ozzmosis.com> References: <20150529092600.GA32731@ozzmosis.com> <20150529133653.GA94981@neutralgood.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150529133653.GA94981@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 20:33:01 -0000 On Fri 2015-05-29 09:36:53 UTC-0400, kpneal@pobox.com (kpneal@pobox.com) wrote: > > Keep in mind that large capacity ZFS datasets can require several GBs > > of memory to work well, particularly if you're using dedup, so you'll > > need to adjust your VM guest's memory appropriately. > > Be careful with dedup. The memory requirements are so large that with > large amounts of data is is easy to get into a situation that takes days > to recover from. > > When not using dedup: There are reports that ZFS can be used in as little > as 4GB of memory -- in the i386 FreeBSD at that! I've got a small setup > with 8GB of memory that works well for me, but I'm not using dedup until > I can put a lot more memory in this machine. I've used ZFS-on-root on amd64 with just 1.5 GB memory for a two-way 1 TB mirror without any dramas for over a year. I wasn't using dedup or snapshots, though, and I avoided running any userland software that ate lots of memory. This was also on bare metal, not a VM. It now has 4 GB, which is plenty. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 01:22:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48B496AA for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 01:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail5.networktest.com (mail5.networktest.com [204.109.60.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 153051256 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 01:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473F739DC33 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 18:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.networktest.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail5.networktest.com [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21144-03 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 18:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tejay-2.local (cpe-75-82-83-187.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.83.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail5.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E3E7739DC25 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 18:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <556910C9.7010706@networktest.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 18:22:17 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing boot loader References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> <55687BE9.40803@networktest.com> <556898FB.1080704@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 01:22:20 -0000 On 5/29/15 12:22 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2015, David Newman wrote: > >> On 5/29/15 8:46 AM, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Fri, 29 May 2015, David Newman wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/6/15 9:28 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: >>>> >>>>> My solution is >>>>> http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/technotes/archives/2015/01/30/how-to_clone_a_freebsd_virtual_machine_on_vmware/index.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> certainly not the best/fastest, but it works. >>>> >>>> Thanks for this. After following the clone instructions, restore >>>> appears >>>> to work, but the system comes up with a "Missing boot loader" error. >>>> >>>> This is perhaps because the next-to-last step from the live CD is: >>>> >>>> cd / >>>> mount -o rw /dev/da0p1 /mnt >>>> gpart bootcode -b /mnt/boot/pmbr -p /mnt/boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 >>>> >>>> And that returns "/dev/da0p1: Operation not permitted" even though >>>> da0p1 >>>> is the target system's root/boot partition. >>> >>> In this code, da0 is the source disk, where the bootcode files are read. >>> It is mounted on /mnt. So there are two reasons that gpart cannot write >>> bootcode to da0p1. First, it is mounted, and second, it is filesystem >>> partition, not a freebsd-boot partition. >>> >>> The target disk cannot be da0p1. Maybe it is a simple typo, and either >>> the second or third line was meant to be ada0 rather than da0. >> >> Thanks for your email. Backstory: This VM is a dump/restore clone of >> another machine that has no separate boot partition. Here's /etc/fstab >> from the source machine: >> >> /dev/ada0p2 / ufs rw 1 1 >> /dev/ada0p3 none swap sw 0 0 > > On a GPT disk, FreeBSD uses a freebsd-boot partition to hold the > bootcode. This is binary code written to that partition, which does not > have a filesystem. It does *not* contain /boot, which is instead part > of /. > > Because the freebsd-boot partition is not needed after boot, it is not > mentioned in /etc/fstab. Look at the output of 'gpart show' instead. > >> And on the new target VM: >> >> /dev/da0p1 / ufs rw 1 1 >> /dev/da0p2 none swap sw 0 0 > > This disk is mountable, but because there is no freebsd-boot partition, > it will not be bootable. (Well, it might be possible to add a > freebsd-boot partition after the existing partitions, but I'd avoid that > because it is unusual and may come back to haunt you at the worst > possible time.) > >> I don't understand the bit about 'ada0', since 'gpart list' shows only >> da0 and two providers under it. > > The original disk was ada0, the new one is da0. If the partitions had > been created properly on da0 (with p1 being the freebsd-boot partition), > it would be possible to mount da0p2 (/), read the bootcode from a file > in the /boot directory there, and write it to da0p1. > >> The source machine has boot files in its root partition, under /boot. > > Those are copies of the binary bootcode that must be written to a > freebsd-boot partition to make a disk bootable. > > Disk Setup On FreeBSD: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Bingo. Thanks, Warren! I completely missed the necessity for a boot partition -- the fstab table and 'gpart show' output of the source machine should have been a clue. Remade the partitions, redid the restore, and now the target VM boots as expected. Thanks again! dn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 01:36:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6AC984C for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 01:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86E9E14CE for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 01:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t4U1alor049902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 May 2015 19:36:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t4U1alBE049899; Fri, 29 May 2015 19:36:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 19:36:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Newman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing boot loader In-Reply-To: <556910C9.7010706@networktest.com> Message-ID: References: <5522C5DE.1050005@networktest.com> <55687BE9.40803@networktest.com> <556898FB.1080704@networktest.com> <556910C9.7010706@networktest.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 May 2015 19:36:47 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 01:36:49 -0000 On Fri, 29 May 2015, David Newman wrote: > On 5/29/15 12:22 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> >>> The source machine has boot files in its root partition, under /boot. >> >> Those are copies of the binary bootcode that must be written to a >> freebsd-boot partition to make a disk bootable. To clarify: the binary bootcode files are in /boot, but there are other files in there as well. It's not just bootcode. > Remade the partitions, redid the restore, and now the target VM boots as > expected. Thanks again! Excellent! It's always nice when this stuff works. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 05:59:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 713FF3FE for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 05:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC7111E95 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 05:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ps06756@gmail.com) Received: by laat2 with SMTP id t2so69464934laa.1 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:59:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=pMNe7sIMjxnL6hcscBIb+/nHRnHUUqKpz+MSA19t4YI=; b=H9icAn9QOIPWj0DGIUsciPwc1rhhbflh1cxnAhEOCExHfRTYPFzVxCa/UfKrSDrEMA dvWgGDm+LlvtoFU5/wXh9hImsb35MdKiE7peIxA3W1Psc6C+bOIUMO6sTtNn93H4zsio d8cNbv7t9beWVo/IA3iBRyEooAhAtKgOozihsjkeTs98Dszb4MYlyOD+fRWX5CQNDS+r PZBZDxG+GQ3jRL+2Aq8CzCFn6OzlP9p7x9EH2k+MHR8R4EFPbHfPVuY9WHVwvfd/rmrf QGUc2CtqeWmCsmnbGUQKXS1kTjNr7d9uimOdeZJm/YlM/DOvz4+VyQfU6T+EdBGYeDIo J/dQ== X-Received: by 10.152.21.197 with SMTP id x5mr1131662lae.108.1432965545020; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:59:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.196.150 with HTTP; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:58:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Pratik Singhal Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 11:28:44 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Difference b/w xfer_len and len fields To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 05:59:07 -0000 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Pratik Singhal wrote: > What is the difference b/w the xfer_len and the len fields in the struct > mmc_data in file sys/dev/mmc/mmcreg.h ? > > AFAIK , len is the length of the data present in mmc_data , what is > xfer_len ? > > -- > Regards, > Pratik Singhal > -- Regards, Pratik Singhal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 18:35:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 565845C7 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com (mail-ie0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2209F15D6 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: by iepj10 with SMTP id j10so83896367iep.3 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 11:35:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w35AdQkrLZQGtY3GdLPgbOaWV0ljXbSobcpBKFW/WXo=; b=wq/t3DtRgprG1DchrJexiguRWlf8+RrCbGwAXZXJ5rFzkikKbeLouCvNf/+rhBj8Q6 TdAixblGgFOXFZBKBRDv7loTNfYSQP6a+9TQQAMNOMTIxsZWQH7XWdTQOFn6sRb/0vEq WK1vcIBUBI2n7dg506fmj8zMwig3tRHAtJtbfQjBVZBiedoUzjpWOE9puqG+J76WZBkl XItgfAvJxZleGMOWF/07V3y+zOuVRyXxp5EzYbgbvyAnKiYLFVJJEmpxOyyYTpunJRuR dVvVLTmjbrgL2wDi9wLlsT1eN0TReu7FguiXbZxpxNkIw26dB9lUjaqbGH8FAGVjv3cl 655A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.138.208 with SMTP id c77mr17405387ioj.24.1433010956471; Sat, 30 May 2015 11:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.131.170 with HTTP; Sat, 30 May 2015 11:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 20:35:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: blank screen after hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1..12 from Xorg with syscons driver in any FreeBSD version and video card From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 18:35:57 -0000 Hi , When I hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1..12 from Xorg I get a blank screen. I not see any. I need a syscons because I need VGA text mode ( Newcons don't support VGA text mode ). Any way to debug this issue ? Thanks, see you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 19:58:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B70C390B for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 19:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8125A175F for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 19:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by iepj10 with SMTP id j10so84578595iep.3 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gZrDEZfH3TaUjwrO9lE8lGrZ78Wsp1+AwmXCqt54mb4=; b=ratN+thBL/vqUtSrW5MS6HiK5QzYPOlKRlYJ/76e4rTgnpPPe/TEPODp2GEkuDoAsg qgD9amFNxS/SG8b/vaT9rnMF0PjS66RR9h2TFpgmLzsZwpyk6VGPy7sqcV0Oa4PfL/t+ /+mpekqjFN6KgozPYK2xlJIK517ATFrHgDUaJB0sTtYEnHT99Vb7PyHf9n7GaijzNzWt uX4mrlnwFpttJNDuvLlmuPUxxHDmTHMR+2wkcA0D41JQ9t03hNlG9Qs+TfT2If5T7CaP 5aDpC1eThHBAOxJQih136Lb19VxWBjdD1zilHhqY8FsSQVj2mm0geDSCGzdBuNqiwg9D 7KEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.129.2 with SMTP id hg2mr1305170icc.58.1433015917666; Sat, 30 May 2015 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.4.150 with HTTP; Sat, 30 May 2015 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 12:58:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freetype in ports? From: jungle Boogie To: Warren Block Cc: Jeffry Killen , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 19:58:38 -0000 On 20 May 2015 at 12:29, Warren Block wrote: > If you don't know the exact name used, there are search options like > Polytropon showed, or the freshports.org website can be handy. Just curious... With what Polytropon showed, package is listed in the manual and it says it uses pkg_add: The package is a .tbz file that you can use to install the port on other machines with pkg_add(1). Does is actually still use pkg_add or is this a minor out of date statement? -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 20:03:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FFBF9ED for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 20:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from mail1.g16.pair.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f440::4227:4116]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 617921958 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 20:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from atomizer (c-71-60-227-57.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.227.57]) by mail1.g16.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2FA55CB7 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 16:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 16:04:12 -0400 From: Rod Person To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: nginx and simple python cgi Message-ID: <20150530160412.480305cd@atomizer> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 20:03:00 -0000 Does anyone know how to or can point me to a how to on setting up nginx to use python for cgi? I have setup to use django and php, but simple python scripts such as the one below don't work. uwsgi seems to want full blown application, if not I can't find any guide anywhere that uses it without django or flask, etc. #!/usr/bin/env python print "Content-type: text/html\r\n\r\n"; print "Hi
"; -- Rod http://www.rodperson.com He who knows himself to be one way and pretends it is another way is a thief who robs his own soul. The Mahabharata Sakuntala 25 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 20:38:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 201FBD64; Sat, 30 May 2015 20:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from che@bein.link) Received: from mail.bein.link (bein.link [37.252.124.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DADEA1FC0; Sat, 30 May 2015 20:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from che@bein.link) Received: from thinkpad.localnet (home.bein.link [188.134.8.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bein.link (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 086CE1AF1B4; Sat, 30 May 2015 20:37:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Maxim V Filimonov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: che@bein.link Cc: Rod Person , "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: nginx and simple python cgi Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 23:37:57 +0300 Message-ID: <4925872.2k2hQimyEc@thinkpad> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p10; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150530160412.480305cd@atomizer> References: <20150530160412.480305cd@atomizer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 20:38:03 -0000 On Saturday 30 May 2015 16:04:12 Rod Person wrote: > Does anyone know how to or can point me to a how to on setting up > nginx to use python for cgi? > > I have setup to use django and php, but simple python scripts such as > the one below don't work. uwsgi seems to want full blown application, > if not I can't find any guide anywhere that uses it without django or > flask, etc. > > > #!/usr/bin/env python > > print "Content-type: text/html\r\n\r\n"; > print "Hi
"; Have you tried FastCGI? https://nginx.localdomain.pl/wiki/FcgiWrap -- wbr, Maxim Filimonov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 21:52:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93111294 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 21:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30EDC118D for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 21:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id t4ULkMD5072698 ; Sat, 30 May 2015 23:46:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from tycho.lpthe.jussieu.fr (tycho.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A77BBDF4C2; Sat, 30 May 2015 23:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from talon@localhost) by tycho.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id t4ULkLTI000437; Sat, 30 May 2015 23:46:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 23:46:21 +0200 From: Michel TALON To: "questions@freebsd.org" , Rod Person Subject: Re: nginx and simple python cgi Message-ID: <20150530214621.GA32243@lpthe.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.reseau.jussieu.fr with ID 556A2FAE.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 556A2FAE.003 from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 21:52:10 -0000 This is a simple python script which does wscgi communication with a http server (in my case httpd), you may take it as example. http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~talon/show_index.fcgi The part of interest to you is after def request_handler(environ, start_response) : and especially after try: from flup.server.fcgi import WSGIServer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 22:41:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8C477C5 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 22:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97B451C3E for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 22:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=V9oH9PCk79nQb6tMqxuiQ8m071PNho6hJ4UUwPK1iYo=; b=iQK4o+MuNMSEicaVpIOZ9U8cvi+TOZfWQYNmliBO1tr/R5XDHNNRo2XE1rjnM/ZCYmFUHq8Ybyx4hqgLWvNiQn8X2KUjsKVF9okzh0W95b9GyzLxkEaiYcsmrM8b1eM3UOB78lnwZkOap/o/cdQu8c3/FHMrVlwbZwEbIYU4NuU=; Received: from [114.124.4.211] (port=48822 helo=B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YypRo-000WQK-Uk; Sat, 30 May 2015 16:41:45 -0600 Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 06:41:38 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Xavier Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: blank screen after hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1..12 from Xorg with syscons driver in any FreeBSD version and video card Message-ID: <20150531064138.038dc730@B85M-HD3-0.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 22:41:52 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 30 May 2015 20:35:56 +0200 Xavier wrote: > Hi , > > When I hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1..12 from Xorg I get a blank screen. I not > see any. > of course not. The old SC is not compatible with the 'new' KMS at all. > I need a syscons because I need VGA text mode ( Newcons don't support > VGA text mode ). > > Any way to debug this issue ? > I think that it is more a re-write than just a bit of debugging. Erich