From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 21 00:01:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 622B0272 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 00:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdedjub@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 049D3E15 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 00:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stdedjub@googlemail.com) Received: by wguu7 with SMTP id u7so42582437wgu.3 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=aZbhoIo99jacsSQ6BSCW85ObCqzMdYOdjZW8F0G/CH0=; b=ti2FVE9fCLGj5ylx6HwTR5czwfiJD+177LKiNtHmbZ1iuE45O4XLV4QwX5953L4bUY 6Gfaq2DDa9MSawFESOupThWj4GmrAPZRYdWuKg2XCIbOyfx2SPoAnUchDJnIoHDZNNl+ CleqOn0LTyGTrLcVgm4XuYlkmvXQ0J9X2d3bFEvr5xBMCJkLqOyGtrbKxkXoAyxoQDUZ agIc4N3mKHrrcoV6v7XE50VbfP4V19urUaW71tOd8qgdxoI0ng3CGuFfSUnxOhPzHHs+ QFjAScmzyiqerBGTELnsNqTgVQdpuFt8Iqvd+cHJ6sriNwughW5aAItCv4DW0G4acQhr fW8Q== X-Received: by 10.180.198.10 with SMTP id iy10mr18902176wic.46.1434844906451; Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.36] (p5496673A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [84.150.103.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r9sm23437563wjo.26.2015.06.20.17.01.44 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5585FED3.8070608@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 02:01:23 +0200 From: Denis D User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: No Sound with Realtek ALC269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 00:01:49 -0000 Thanks for the Reply, but it doesn't help, also the following setting is wrong hw.snd.default_unit=4 I don't have a pcm4 On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 00:48:27 +0200, Denis D via freebsd-questions stated: /> > /> >See if this makes any difference. > >/etc/sysctl.conf > > hw.snd.default_unit=4 > hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 > dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 > >-- >Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 21 10:43:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AA95F55 for ; 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Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E4B87ED for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-24-166-126-146.neo.res.rr.com [24.166.126.146]); by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id aa2b24ef; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 9e5896fe; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1434891376.1433.15.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: security patch vs. binary upgrade From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: Lev , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:56:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> References: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-512"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-0EKMr0lVY89AU6yvPGGN" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:55:52 -0000 --=-0EKMr0lVY89AU6yvPGGN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2015-06-21 at 12:43 +0200, Lev wrote: > Hello List, >=20 >=20 > I installed FreeBSD 10.1 on my home server, and it runs as expected. >=20 > I don't really understand one thing: >=20 > What is the difference between >=20 > pkg update/upgrade pkg is the binary update system (binaries here are often refered to as packages) for the ports tree. It contains all of the ports that can be distributed as binaries with default options. It is not recommended at this time to mix binary packages with source installed ports. If you want to use packages but want non-default options you can use poudriere and host your own repository pretty easily. >=20 > freebsd-update fetch > freebsd-update install freebsd-update is the binary update system for the parts of the system maintained by the FreeBSD developers. This provides updates for the kernel and base system (the default install). FreeBSD can also be updated from source, in fact if you move to -STABLE or -CURRENT source updates are the only option. >=20 > If I patch my sustem with security patches, and then upgrade the binary > packages will the patches lost? Binary upgrades contain all FreeBSD provided security patches. >=20 > Btw... freebsd-update install writes this: >=20 > Installing > updates...install: ///usr/src/contrib/file/magic/Magdir/kerberos: No=20 > such file or directory > install: ///usr/src/contrib/file/magic/Magdir/meteorological: No such=20 > file or directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/file/magic/Magdir/qt: No > such file or directory > install: ///usr/src/crypto/openssl/util/mkbuildinf.pl: No such file or= =20 > directory IIRC this is the result of a glitch in the 10-RELEASE installer or media. It didn't install the source code for the base system in /usr/src. If you want the source code download it from svn and put it in /usr/src. If you dont need it you can tell freebsd-update not to update the source code by removing src from the components list in /etc/freebsd-update.conf. >=20 > Is this okay? >=20 > Thanks, > Lev >=20 > --=20 > 73 de HA5OGL > Op.: Levente --=-0EKMr0lVY89AU6yvPGGN Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCEqAw ggYwMIIFGKADAgECAgMOXcYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQK Ew1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSswKQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTaWdu aW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJtZWRpYXRlIENsaWVu dCBDQTAeFw0xNTA2MTMyMDI0NDZaFw0xNjA2MTQwMDM1NTBaMEgxHzAdBgNVBAMMFmlrZUBtaWNo YWVsZWljaG9ybi5jb20xJTAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWFmlrZUBtaWNoYWVsZWljaG9ybi5jb20wggEi MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDJVdWALPz5h2s5zUQGIJYl6Vp8FPtZNko8q/3s 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(rbn1-216-180-76-210.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5LDFrAs010525 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:15:54 -0500 Message-ID: <5586B909.2000700@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:22:08 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk question References: <558581A9.7010309@hiwaay.net> <55858B2C.4080004@gmail.com> <5585D1F8.6050006@hiwaay.net> <5585D37B.2000303@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5585D37B.2000303@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:15:56 -0000 On 06/20/15 16:02, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 06/20/2015 02:49 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 06/20/15 10:54, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 06/20/2015 09:06 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> .... I just dd'ed the FreeBSD 9.3 RELEASE memstick image onto a 4 >>>> GB USB drive. When I mount it, it shows 101% full, w/ about 717 MB >>>> of stuff. The NetBSD folks often (for Raspberry Pi, for example) >>>> recommend & provide examples of how to mess with the partition >>>> table after dd'ing to restore 'full' USB drive capacity as noted by >>>> df w/o messing up any of the other data in the stick. Is this >>>> feasible under FreeBSD ? If so, has anyone tried/done it ? How did >>>> it go :-) ? Care to post your commands that worked :-) ? TIA & have >>>> a good one .... >>>> >>>> >>> Hi Bill, >>> what is the size of the memstick image? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> A touch over 700 MB .... >> > I have experienced this problem before myself. > Basically, I had to manually take a look at the partition sizes > of source and partition the destination the same way. > The caveat was also that the source partition table area was not > the same as the destination's :( > So that wreaked havoc with what the firmware of the destination > thought was the partitioning scheme AFTER the dd from src to dest. > Someone showed me how to use the binary editor to fix the destination's > partition information. Unfortunately, I lost much email after drive crash > and replacement. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > No problema, it is easy enough to just dd a new install image if I want it, I was thinking of keeping this USB drive as a FreeBSD installer exclusively, & just updating the files on it when required, but it's not necessary. The disk booted & did what I wanted, so all is well. Thanks :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 21 14:35:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74053B18 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08383C1 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([80.229.31.82]) by avasout08 with smtp id j2Y11q0061mJoLY012Y210; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:32:04 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=EKD7qAtC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:117 a=cd0K7rcWwnZFf6xQxRobyA==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=91gnqV4pFL194OjlhKMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=kflFZab98kEA:10 a=NtC6tKizNQgA:10 a=0n7_gKR59DYA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6gHx-0001PC-0q; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:32:01 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:32:00 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: Lev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20150621153200.559aa68f@curlew.lan> In-Reply-To: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> References: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: security patch vs. binary upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:35:17 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:43:45 +0200 Lev wrote: > If I patch my sustem with security patches, and then upgrade the binary > packages will the patches lost? No problem, freebsd-update only makes changes to the base system. Packages are not part of the base system and will not be affected by freebsd-update, they are upgraded by using pkg upgrade or by building from source using ports. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 21 14:41:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FAE5FAD for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from the-host.seacom.mu (ge-3.ln-01-mrs.fr.seacomnet.com [105.16.180.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22ACF1C3 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.tinka@seacom.mu) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=Mark-Tinkas-MacBook.local) by the-host.seacom.mu with esmtp (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id NQAU0E-0001D2-CT; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:38:38 +0200 Subject: Re: security patch vs. binary upgrade To: Mike Clarke , Lev References: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> <20150621153200.559aa68f@curlew.lan> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mark Tinka Message-ID: <5586CC6D.9080901@seacom.mu> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:38:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150621153200.559aa68f@curlew.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:41:18 -0000 On 21/Jun/15 16:32, Mike Clarke wrote: > No problem, freebsd-update only makes changes to the base system. > > Packages are not part of the base system and will not be affected by > freebsd-update, they are upgraded by using pkg upgrade or by building > from source using ports. Except, of course, if you're using freebsd-update to move the system between major versions, e.g., 10.x to 11.x. Then there is some work to be done with the userland ports. Otherwise, a simple freebsd-update fetch|install should be fine, as Mike has said. Mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 21 14:48:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61F853FC for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leventelist@gmail.com) Received: from papyrus.altaweb.hu (papyrus.altaweb.hu [195.228.155.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BE71354 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leventelist@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papyrus.altaweb.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6114BA02F2 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:37:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at papyrus.altaweb.hu Received: from papyrus.altaweb.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (papyrus.altaweb.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16ixdg+gaKJv for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:37:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from chacha.levafreebsd.org (5E1BDF64.mobile.pool.telekom.hu [94.27.223.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: levente@altanet.hu) by papyrus.altaweb.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4A3DA02F1 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:37:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jive (jive.levalinux.org [192.168.1.1]) by chacha.levafreebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DE2AE9E9E0 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:40:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:40:12 +0200 From: Lev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security patch vs. binary upgrade Message-ID: <20150621164012.180cb8f5@jive> In-Reply-To: <20150621153200.559aa68f@curlew.lan> References: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> <20150621153200.559aa68f@curlew.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:48:53 -0000 T2theS4gVGhhbmtzIGZvciB0aGUgYW5zd2VyLg0KDQpMZXYNCg0KLS0gDQo3MyBkZSBIQTVPR0wN Ck9wLjogTGV2ZW50ZQ0K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 00:52:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C16F653 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F58AB8C for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD95F3CECC; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:24:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5LMONWt002026; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:24:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:24:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security patch vs. binary upgrade Message-Id: <20150622002423.99c5b318.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> References: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:52:53 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:43:45 +0200, Lev wrote: > Hello List, > > > I installed FreeBSD 10.1 on my home server, and it runs as expected. > > I don't really understand one thing: > > What is the difference between > > pkg update/upgrade > > and > > freebsd-update fetch > freebsd-update install > > If I patch my sustem with security patches, and then upgrade the binary > packages will the patches lost? FreeBSD has an important differentiation between the operating system (FreeBSD itself) and the applications which are installed. Those packages, "everything else", are managed by the ports tree, or in your case, more precisely, the pkg interface to the precompiled binary packages. So what you're seeing here is that: 1. freebsd-update updates your OS, and 2. pkg updates your installed applications. Both are not (directly) connected to each other. For example, you could remove all your installed packages, and then _still_ have a fully functional OS. This is, by the way, a common idea when moving from one major OS version to another, which usually involves the re-installation of all application software. You're probably coming from Linux land where the OS itself is an arbitrary compilation of packages, and even the OS kernel is considered a package. Linux distributions does not have a concept of "just the OS" directly implemented, and the distribution maintainers decide what their "OS" consists of. Different compilations, and even different package management tools are therefore common. On FreeBSD, you can update the OS and keep the versions of the installed applications, or keep the OS version but update the installed applications only. It's your choice. In order to achieve this goal, two different tools are provided for the two different subjects. > Btw... freebsd-update install writes this: > > Installing > updates...install: ///usr/src/contrib/file/magic/Magdir/kerberos: No such file or directory > install: ///usr/src/contrib/file/magic/Magdir/meteorological: No such file or directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/file/magic/Magdir/qt: No > such file or directory > install: ///usr/src/crypto/openssl/util/mkbuildinf.pl: No such file or directory > > Is this okay? Not _that_ okay. :-) The installer expects the /usr/src subtree to be present. The easiest way to deal with that is to install it from the installation media or via Internet. The source distribution src.txz for the version you're running needs to be extracted to /usr/src, so the installer will find the files it's refering to. Once /usr/src is there, freebsd-update will keep the sources up to date if the "src" component is enabled in its setup file, /etc/freebsd-update.conf; see "Components" entry. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 00:56:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FA506F7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmgr@antennex.com) Received: from BAY004-OMC2S5.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s5.hotmail.com [65.54.190.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 785CD2DA for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmgr@antennex.com) Received: from BAY404-EAS352 ([65.54.190.123]) by BAY004-OMC2S5.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:08 -0700 X-TMN: [LdHs5fVwu6MGn90M6rVhWWiZf4BVKyRpCmswc5/78DM=] X-Originating-Email: [listmgr@antennex.com] Message-ID: From: "Lt. Commander" To: "'Patrick Hess'" , References: <20150615015516.b3ea7633.freebsd@edvax.de> <2609852.Pc7nSdcYla@desk8.phess.net> In-Reply-To: <2609852.Pc7nSdcYla@desk8.phess.net> Subject: RE: Script question Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:32:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQABAgME0X1Dm5rl1ITbGRHvuqm5ZwDmqqb4AImG+awAOb+0/QChWiN0ACr4FWoAANHiZwBu370yAH5eu84A9Ixn/aE0ACJA Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2015 21:32:08.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9CBD030:01D0AC69] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:56:28 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script question Polytropon wrote: > Or if you want to omit the grep call: > > awk '/spam=YES/ {print $11}' /var/log/maillog | sort | uniq | sed -e > 's/^.*=//' > /tmp/spam-ip.txt > > And then continue: > > cat /tmp/spam-ip.txt >> /usr/samba/mail/envelope cat /tmp/spam-ip.txt > | mail -s "SPAM IPs...." us.navy@outlook.com > > Finally, you can easily remove /tmp/spam-ip.txt. You could even take this one step further and eliminate the need for a temporary file altogether by making use of tee(1): awk '/spam=YES/ {print $11}' /var/log/maillog | sort | uniq | sed -e 's/^.*=//' | tee -a /usr/samba/mail/envelope | mail -s "SPAM IPs...." us.navy@outlook.com Patrick _______________________________________________ Hi list! The script guys were very helpful in smoothing out my sh shell script and it with other script calls are doing the job I needed. BUT! I took the snippet below to use as an "yes/no" intro to one of the calls. It must have aged as is because it complains about badly placed "()s" right near the top of the intro and I suspect it won't agree with another line further down either. Perhaps a hint from the experts as to how to change the problem? Thank you! Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 00:57:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 494A3809 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmgr@antennex.com) Received: from BAY004-OMC2S16.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s16.hotmail.com [65.54.190.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31F6C784 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmgr@antennex.com) Received: from BAY404-EAS428 ([65.54.190.123]) by BAY004-OMC2S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:36:40 -0700 X-TMN: [QAGb9LttYosAVlsluFqKwql5UxbUL60KOX958lrqwQE=] X-Originating-Email: [listmgr@antennex.com] Message-ID: From: "Lt. Commander" To: "'Lt. Commander'" , "'Patrick Hess'" , References: <20150615015516.b3ea7633.freebsd@edvax.de> <2609852.Pc7nSdcYla@desk8.phess.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Script question Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:36:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQABAgME0X1Dm5rl1ITbGRHvuqm5ZwDmqqb4AImG+awAOb+0/QChWiN0ACr4FWoAANHiZwBu370yAH5eu84A9Ixn/QACGnsroTP4aEA= Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2015 21:36:40.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C521B20:01D0AC6A] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:57:30 -0000 Sheesh! Here's the script: #get_yes_no() { while true do echo -n "$1 (Y/N) ? " read -t 30 a if [ $? != 0 ]; then a="No"; return; fi case $a in [Yy]) a="Yes"; return;; [Nn]) a="No"; return;; *);; esac done #} get_yes_no "Do you want to continue......" [ $a = 'No' ] && exit 1 ______________________________________________ Hi list! The script guys were very helpful in smoothing out my sh shell script and it with other script calls are doing the job I needed. BUT! I took the snippet below to use as an "yes/no" intro to one of the calls. It must have aged as is because it complains about badly placed "()s" right near the top of the intro and I suspect it won't agree with another line further down either. Perhaps a hint from the experts as to how to change the problem? Thank you! Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 01:10:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D32F3D24 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94120CBF for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DA0727820; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:10:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5M1Abgh002621; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:10:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:10:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Lt. Commander" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script question Message-Id: <20150622031037.420a1db0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20150615015516.b3ea7633.freebsd@edvax.de> <2609852.Pc7nSdcYla@desk8.phess.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:10:48 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:32:04 -0500, Lt. Commander wrote: > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Script question > > Polytropon wrote: > > Or if you want to omit the grep call: > > > > awk '/spam=YES/ {print $11}' /var/log/maillog | sort | uniq | sed -e > > 's/^.*=//' > /tmp/spam-ip.txt > > > > And then continue: > > > > cat /tmp/spam-ip.txt >> /usr/samba/mail/envelope cat /tmp/spam-ip.txt > > | mail -s "SPAM IPs...." us.navy@outlook.com > > > > Finally, you can easily remove /tmp/spam-ip.txt. > > You could even take this one step further and eliminate the need for a > temporary file altogether by making use of tee(1): > > awk '/spam=YES/ {print $11}' /var/log/maillog | > sort | > uniq | > sed -e 's/^.*=//' | > tee -a /usr/samba/mail/envelope | > mail -s "SPAM IPs...." us.navy@outlook.com > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > > Hi list! > > The script guys were very helpful in smoothing out my sh shell script and it > with other script calls are doing the job I needed. > > BUT! I took the snippet below to use as an "yes/no" intro to one of the > calls. It must have aged as is because it complains about badly placed "()s" > right near the top of the intro and I suspect it won't agree with another > line further down either. > > Perhaps a hint from the experts as to how to change the problem? To be honest, I don't see any ( or ) in the whole script. Can you post your _current_ version, just to be sure we're looking at the same code? Every other attempt probably is just guesswork... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 01:30:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20A45F66 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D596A1C1D for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D180B24C70; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:30:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5M1UbU7002892; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:30:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:30:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Lt. Commander" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script question Message-Id: <20150622033037.6cfd270d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20150615015516.b3ea7633.freebsd@edvax.de> <2609852.Pc7nSdcYla@desk8.phess.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:30:40 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:36:36 -0500, Lt. Commander wrote: > Sheesh! Here's the script: > #get_yes_no() { > while true > do > echo -n "$1 (Y/N) ? " > read -t 30 a > if [ $? != 0 ]; then > a="No"; > return; > fi > case $a in > [Yy]) a="Yes"; > return;; > [Nn]) a="No"; > return;; > *);; > esac > done > #} > > get_yes_no "Do you want to continue......" > > [ $a = 'No' ] && exit 1 I did a little re-formatting for readability, so you can spot the mistake easier. The following code works as intended. For the test cases: [ (or "test") uses -eq and ! -eq (or -ne) for numerical values, but = and != for strings. See "man test" for details. Also note the removal of the ; after commands. Shell != C. :-) You will see the following cases now (as expected): Do you want to continue (Y/N) ? y Continuing! and Do you want to continue (Y/N) ? n and the program exits with exit code 1. It accepts y, Y, n and N as valid inputs, defaulting to the result "No" after 30 seconds. Every other input causes the input loop to repeat. Here's the code now: #!/bin/sh get_yes_no() { while true; do echo -n "$1 (Y/N) ? " read -t 30 REPLY if [ ! $? -eq 0 ]; then ANSWER="No" return fi case "$REPLY" in [Yy]) ANSWER="Yes" return ;; [Nn]) ANSWER="No" return ;; *) ;; esac done } get_yes_no "Do you want to continue" [ $ANSWER = "No" ] && exit 1 echo "Continuing!" -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 02:01:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 328833A4 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmgr@antennex.com) Received: from BAY004-OMC4S8.hotmail.com (bay004-omc4s8.hotmail.com [65.54.190.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17799189 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listmgr@antennex.com) Received: from BAY404-EAS84 ([65.54.190.201]) by BAY004-OMC4S8.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:00:42 -0700 X-TMN: [TqTrN+GEEdxp491BDY26G3dbAzzDu8mgwDPKqqxS9bQ=] X-Originating-Email: [listmgr@antennex.com] Message-ID: From: "Lt. Commander" To: "'Polytropon'" , "'Lt. Commander'" CC: References: <20150615015516.b3ea7633.freebsd@edvax.de> <2609852.Pc7nSdcYla@desk8.phess.net> <20150622033037.6cfd270d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150622033037.6cfd270d.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: RE: Script question Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:00:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQABAgME0X1Dm5rl1ITbGRHvuqm5ZwDmqqb4AImG+awAOb+0/QChWiN0ACr4FWoAANHiZwBu370yAH5eu84A9Ixn/QDMN8yNAImCkRIA0TZFMaEjGtiA Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2015 02:00:42.0764 (UTC) FILETIME=[3ECC94C0:01D0AC8F] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:01:48 -0000 From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 8:31 PM To: Lt. Commander Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script question On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:36:36 -0500, Lt. Commander wrote: > Sheesh! Here's the script: > #get_yes_no() { > while true > do > echo -n "$1 (Y/N) ? " > read -t 30 a > if [ $? != 0 ]; then > a="No"; > return; > fi > case $a in > [Yy]) a="Yes"; > return;; > [Nn]) a="No"; > return;; > *);; > esac > done > #} > > get_yes_no "Do you want to continue......" > > [ $a = 'No' ] && exit 1 I did a little re-formatting for readability, so you can spot the mistake easier. The following code works as intended. For the test cases: [ (or "test") uses -eq and ! -eq (or -ne) for numerical values, but = and != for strings. See "man test" for details. Also note the removal of the ; after commands. Shell != C. :-) You will see the following cases now (as expected): Do you want to continue (Y/N) ? y Continuing! and Do you want to continue (Y/N) ? n and the program exits with exit code 1. It accepts y, Y, n and N as valid inputs, defaulting to the result "No" after 30 seconds. Every other input causes the input loop to repeat. Here's the code now: #!/bin/sh get_yes_no() { while true; do echo -n "$1 (Y/N) ? " read -t 30 REPLY if [ ! $? -eq 0 ]; then ANSWER="No" return fi case "$REPLY" in [Yy]) ANSWER="Yes" return ;; [Nn]) ANSWER="No" return ;; *) ;; esac done } get_yes_no "Do you want to continue" [ $ANSWER = "No" ] && exit 1 echo "Continuing!" ------------------------------------------------------- Bingo! You got it. Works fine. Funny tho, I have used that little sh shell intro for years to lead into various scripts. This is the first time it didn't work as I had it. Oh, well... now it's fixed and that's all that counts. Once again many thanks for the help!! --Jason -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 02:41:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1700F58B for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA49061F for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ECF03F719 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558775F0.4040405@sneakertech.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:41:52 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Current state of firewire support? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:41:54 -0000 From what I understand, FreeBSD "dropped support" for firewire at some point in the past couple years, but I'm having trouble finding detailed information on what exactly changed. Assuming 10.1-release, is there any easy way to get an old firewire drive mounted? Is there a config file that will load something at boot? A package I can install? Do I have to patch the kernel? Or is firewire just totally gone for good? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 02:55:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B9A16C9 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE4F4B36 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B2A03F765 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55877916.9070100@sneakertech.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:55:18 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current state of firewire support? References: <558775F0.4040405@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558775F0.4040405@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:55:20 -0000 >Assuming 10.1-release, More specifically: FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 05:24:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D895DD2 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talayeh.asadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qg0-x236.google.com (mail-qg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24A2A3A0 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talayeh.asadi@gmail.com) Received: by qged89 with SMTP id d89so49528991qge.0 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:23:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=eaXu+GNZTttTPEZrs8yLKlqYP14/V4pLh7p7wwKIwbw=; b=p2MVXQwBNwbt7yWy7Mmg8dOBWx+3YsbPN9IQXJncK2H24R/jnMTFxvbXTuwH3nttzu Y0z/ZI+mP6WBG5pibZghYpxsYypvZ9ldGyYsSE5jdT34/tCP0me9E6ot6Sqf5LakcA0w 1OrtIvUoMlcTOewKHaZDXPn00KQ7H4wYyybW4gLdvId9/JnhlcBLsb5QRPe+2IgzMMJI oVVK7BSMBdzBG99gwTTLFqnmcvDaNPmg4DlZkVHiiSXp7DCMslVQhIW7M4lbQxl/9wZw t5CrLhbxGrQnoTQuvuass7MroD/zcFM4ZR80ceRT1wiYJxkDrxsSHS2NZBD14K4h1jvy pzrQ== X-Received: by 10.140.233.140 with SMTP id e134mr37461397qhc.63.1434950639130; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:23:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: tak.official@gmail.com Sender: talayeh.asadi@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.93.134 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:23:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150615170657.8106edd0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20150614182418.56857acc.freebsd@edvax.de> <44wpz56pxr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20150615170657.8106edd0.freebsd@edvax.de> From: takCoder Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:53:39 +0430 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lEeKfZ8zYI5nO7SYaWTcQy3Yfcg Message-ID: Subject: Re: reload kernel without reboot? To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Lowell Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:24:00 -0000 Hi all, Thank you all for the hints and notes there. Actually I decided to use MODULES_OVERRIDE in make.conf and -DKERNFAST for fast kernel compile to save time during my task and let the reboot happen as not doing so seems to be that tricky. Thank you takcoder On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:50:40 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > A standard kernel comes with many hundreds of kernel modules. We don't > > know what you're working on specifically, but the building and loading > > and unloading of modules is not tricky. > > If I remember correctly, there's even some example code of > how to create a kernel module somewhere in the source tree. > It should be a good starting point for moving the "moving > parts" into a kernel module that can be dealt with using > kldload and kldunload. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 05:42:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CA1EFAD for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from rand.keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [144.76.43.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "keepquiet.net", Issuer "PositiveSSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF98B236 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from [10.130.10.105] (cm-84.210.76.250.getinternet.no [84.210.76.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by rand.keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F2C4C1F; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:34:13 +0000 (UTC) References: <20150614182418.56857acc.freebsd@edvax.de> <44wpz56pxr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20150615170657.8106edd0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <7DF6F3BF-C833-4CF6-875C-242147FAA9C7@elde.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B500) From: Terje Elde Subject: Re: reload kernel without reboot? Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:34:09 +0200 To: "tak.official@gmail.com" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:42:54 -0000 On 22. juni 2015, at 07:23, takCoder wrote: > Actually I decided to use > MODULES_OVERRIDE in make.conf and -DKERNFAST for fast kernel compile to > save time during my task and let the reboot happen as not doing so seems t= o > be that tricky. Not sure if it's obvious, so just mentioning that KERNFAST could give you so= me issues, depending on what you change between builds. Just keep it in mind= if you run into any kind of trouble, and try a fresh normal build.=20 Also, if it's module development you're looking at, you could recompile and u= n/load just the module you're poking and prodding, sidestepping the kernel b= uild entirely.=20 Terje (pre-coffee, please forgive if I'm just stating the obvious, or missed anyth= ing already covered in the thread)= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 07:53:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 437FA643 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leventelist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com (mail-ig0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E5498B6 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leventelist@gmail.com) Received: by igbqq3 with SMTP id qq3so57054952igb.0 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:53:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=c2awo/6zQgv1FoIXVQp6i1uCDYS0/WRa25w+iKCmsNM=; b=mFav7fnKkvn/lqgJhzu9f7Q9E6UyiZCHrVVblYv7k47M5+VU6l/0T3xAOenrF1HL1y gEo1Rj3Fd2YRNlmUk4gtv4DW+gJ4BnnXjIevW6uqLqQlSU+PYH8XYKVqI3BwrVcY1qBR VLuaSUQ+ySqu5zCcKgBKwVEBXehiTDIbSFR+bt51fjuq+o1wCUP+MWXOg9MoJFPsBv79 jgXaNhroU4n0S3Hn+rOX1aPcR6NeHpIzd0iYggkPwMkXtbINGsDL6V00lR0+vtPvwO2Q k2MBk43t4tCEjZjJqCgRYuhRhKpzQgjmkrQ0nl/RHRbc9rO8yEA3kHyOIaBglwMxE2hQ tFEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.8.3 with SMTP id n3mr19335221iga.37.1434959634433; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.4.71 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:53:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150622002423.99c5b318.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20150621124345.1a09b8f6@jive> <20150622002423.99c5b318.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:53:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: security patch vs. binary upgrade From: Levente To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:53:55 -0000 Indeed, I am coming from the Linux world... sorry for my ignorance. Thanks from leading me out from darkness to the light. :-) Lev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 08:10:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C136786; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuchalia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x230.google.com (mail-la0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5289E17; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuchalia@gmail.com) Received: by lacny3 with SMTP id ny3so104739827lac.3; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:10:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=qNLFWYMuY2rZSMuMHk0gv70rFxxj41gTBYh5GX3zh/A=; b=CeBGPM6Fp+Xm8P0BZyDXPot5TWWVMA9q0CTmF+I8h8ToaAMFtUDGYbOOo70GvBTcWB i1Rtf5fuNHsqq0aEAab5iTPCa8GlbxV0942wah4OPE29jghKnBNyZrgGACvGjCA652/L ptHqf10WUVblk/slwW5oUZXZTv+uZQ0UG1u/Jb6FfbKZYgNP3zvIwMFWVu4yOkZBk8zs NJzPeZ7Yet15KDzcvzXHdJuyOeTOIlUaoAgumk4sfgRhgWcJwBlSkyxhh+y2Azi+pNyy x/JwB5trWvcZbMGsdmjBYBtQLc9JiMAUw+b2sRGw4fRsDEmcjll/y31xpEPn3GYKERRE yFgw== X-Received: by 10.152.239.131 with SMTP id vs3mr29503081lac.102.1434960620777; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:10:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Peyrolon Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:10:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to test for memory corruption ? To: Pratik Singhal , freebsd-hackers , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:10:23 -0000 Hi, I have absolutely no idea, but maybe you can use DTrace for this? You could also print the location for each memory write. El s=C3=A1b., 20 de junio de 2015 9:20, Pratik Singhal escribi=C3=B3: > Hello, I have written code for adding support for DMA transfers for > Allwinner A10 SoC (Cubieboard 1) in MMC driver/ > > I have tried transferring files to/from mmc card and verified that files > are copied fine. > Although, many times the kernel panics suddenly, after I transfer files. > This does not happen If I use PIO to transfer data (PIO's code is tested > and already committed to ~HEAD). Panics don't occur in the statements > written for DMA transfer. > > I am suspecting that the problem is that the DMA transfer apart from > writing where it is required, is overwriting other parts of the memory > also. > > Is there any way, I can verify that this is/this is not the case ? > > Thank you, > Pratik Singhal > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > --=20 Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 10:21:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72DDBD0D for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de (mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.5.186]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de", Issuer "RWTH Aachen CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B34C4D18 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,658,1427752800"; d="scan'208";a="458043401" Received: from hub2.rwth-ad.de (HELO mail.rwth-aachen.de) ([134.130.26.143]) by mx-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; 22 Jun 2015 12:20:09 +0200 Received: from [172.27.4.215] (87.79.34.228) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (134.130.26.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:20:08 +0200 Message-ID: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:20:08 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Organization: I. Physikalisches Institut Ib RWTH-Aachen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMWin-Version: 3.1.3.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:21:28 -0000 I'm running a somewhat come into age server under FreeBSD 5.1 at the moment and I'm in need to update to php5. Trying to install php-5.0.0 in ports results in an error message fetch: http://www.t.ring.gr.jp/archives/net/www/php/distributions/php-5.0.0.tar.bz2: Not Found >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/php-5.0.0.tar.bz2: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. I then tried an SVN checkout which ended up in: >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/kuriyama/. fetch: ftp://ftp.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/kuriyama/apr-APR_0_9_BRANCH_20040113112838.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.tw.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/kuriyama/. fetch: ftp://ftp.tw.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/kuriyama/apr-APR_0_9_BRANCH_20040113112838.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/apr-APR_0_9_BRANCH_20040113112838.tar.gz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/apr-svn. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/subversion. forum# Any clues? -- Christoph Kukulies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 11:43:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB3CFB7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FA9FD90 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by wicgi11 with SMTP id gi11so72496179wic.0 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 04:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pWWybJVZQNxqqlzM4N4KI16W0dnXkUEPKZNL+BvQD+4=; b=DOfC2m5Xmo17nwzHt4zO2Yvl+d5OKMHlK165NLih95AZrcrbY0eVrrJEaH1Rv0d+q4 MB9NaMRHjVfPb/U0XjkCRRzGIoFq9pfdwGbTuyBd2b2G58DLb02aUhh3etTJ7GGVWw5Z qP2VcWdi+BC3isN+jJGsTH2QiZcY6Jx7Kwr+kN7N/c2+k0EDj65oUVl26fXsuMrb3xDd EiriX1cuMgtHRIU28OcD2tYVAwChRlHD6TSIIUmx3QZXu6zTlF9YL8hOJeXwBR1aKq1E 4CCPlnQjyAsjyFc+V3OmNlQblLdCUbicLVvyd+PL0E0H4r+QHlT2baEAsF52jLLWcru1 PuCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.97.7 with SMTP id dw7mr31286435wib.74.1434973380685; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 04:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.73.5 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 04:43:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55877916.9070100@sneakertech.com> References: <558775F0.4040405@sneakertech.com> <55877916.9070100@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:43:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Current state of firewire support? From: krad To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:43:02 -0000 crack it out of the case and wire it directly into a sata/ide port, or mount it in a usb caddy? On 22 June 2015 at 03:55, Quartz wrote: > Assuming 10.1-release, >> > > More specifically: FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-amd64 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 13:28:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D3298B3 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [78.47.239.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D807B26 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF994DA403 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:21:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6nU95PeFTHmD for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:21:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.27.4.215] (unknown [87.79.34.228]) by kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F1A84DA402 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:21:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <55880BF7.3040106@kukulies.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:21:59 +0200 From: "Christoph P.U. Kukulies" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: how to use FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-i386.vmdk under vmware Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:28:12 -0000 I downloaded a FreeBSD 10.1 vmware image FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-i386.vmdk and would like to run it using VMWARE Workstation 9.x. When starting the vmdk it says that it canot be run, I should use the .vmx configuration file instead. Anyone knowing how to proceed from here? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 15:37:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82842F51 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-x22a.google.com (mail-qc0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E11DB70 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: by qcet6 with SMTP id t6so26558853qce.3 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:subject:to :message-id:mime-version; bh=TaZ82Nm4llHYizabia+uM1sCADVCrA24Iz49yonX8zw=; b=x1sOWJeSZSRVQhxV8GCLsLRmVzzY9aZPDw0hSGJiNFbruKf6jLGiQ+F55skF7iUZZh SHXsWsa236m4vG+Ayr7ppKyLOSHmxeQ1FsXdO5/uFEuoSy/DMVIpIwqo+48YzNHvuc+5 RDS3EsBLuN4ZZpfEagUez/w2uwAuJkwDA8F4NxiPgBFnL06k6z6aJzAApbB1rh95rfAZ SCedL3U3/+WL0WaCpocAdPScoacG8LHMhOuqjYv8rbP+6QKahT2fRO5HzoGgvGl079AX C2gzcZ56Hk01hgQgoWeTz+9w/BuEon/zNKnXEpgBtZRYdMVRfGOzUWtlKpgBf/rkT2M3 CJnQ== X-Received: by 10.55.25.217 with SMTP id 86mr30232815qkz.4.1434987419343; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bandersnatch.cse.lehigh.edu (bandersnatch.cse.lehigh.edu. [128.180.122.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 80sm10321808qhr.26.2015.06.22.08.36.52 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:36:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Oscar Hodgson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:36:46 -0400 Subject: yum on freebsd 9: No module named sqlite To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <60AFD209-581B-41B6-80D5-0119389BC447@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:37:00 -0000 Hi folks, Is anyone running yum successfully on release 9? I am trying to get a yum repository running on FreeBSD 9-RELEASE-p17 in = order to replace a Linux machine. /usr/ports is current. sysutils/yum = (3.4.3_2) builds cleanly, =E2=80=98yum=E2=80=99 fails to start with the = above error. Yum is essentially 100% python. /usr/ports/databases/py-sqlite3 is installed. There is no = =E2=80=98py-sqlite=E2=80=99 package in ports. This error extends to = various yum components (i.e. import sqlitesack, import sqlutils, and so = forth). I am stymied. Going through the ports code has not been enlightening. = Any suggestions? Oscar= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 15:45:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA4EB0 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ADCF9E for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EBC480AE; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=/Qg3uizxbZRHI9Bb6meVgOZ69V4=; b= 48XPSrtZWb/dWXIoIxhqZGdwilb89W8YHRH6fFp8pcIJIzshqGFe5vP6pVA4SRuR Tqf0Ihj/liEZ7xtHfkrsz85yIQqSuzc7VH3EKYBibcFy+FY2qDBsjnilkxZN1X8f /Ehd5FzN9NUxaK+COqMX9lkint4lsPOsJQ/RZLFej54= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a45.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25C3A480A6; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 78893E50; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:45:45 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:45:45 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: GCC question Message-ID: <20150622154545.GA92373@ozzmosis.com> References: <558585CB.4070607@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <558585CB.4070607@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:45:55 -0000 On Sat 2015-06-20 10:31:14 UTC-0453, William A. Mahaffey III (wam@hiwaay.net) wrote: > I have gcc 4.8 installed on this system. I notice a slight newer version > available, specifically referencing AMD64, which this box is: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:15:12am] 630 % uname -a > FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p13 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p13 #0: Tue > Apr 7 03:01:12 UTC 2015 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:15:15am] 631 % grep -i gcc LIST.installed.txt > gcc-4.8.4_3 GNU Compiler Collection 4.8 > gcc-ecj-4.5 Eclipse Java Compiler used to build GCC Java > [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:19:39am] 632 % grep -i gcc LIST.available.txt > amd64-gcc-4.9.2_1 > amd64-xtoolchain-gcc-0.1 I suspect these are for cross-compiling to amd64 from non-amd64 hosts. > I only use ports for the flash library, however I am wondering if there > might be any performance improvement in recompiling some stuff locally, > possibly with a compiler tuned/optimized for AMD64. The regular gcc in base is already tuned to amd64. You could use clang instead of gcc. It is the default C/C++ compiler in FreeBSD 10. Performance benefits are likely to be marginal, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 15:48:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B67A9152 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA1C1F7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC334E4E; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=T10nsS74FHq++WZGlQJhAfX+8w0=; b= Rw6Gfi+sZu3kmhcvyVfmFWuuXX7KjVfWSeslRlT9GLndSo86xoMECoK24+8ondFD ElkkSflRSYgbBdecZvVDj7eguR2dAEEGlCzhWIzOOPjT9ymoigMrNrE9DTK3qys3 tDuYVwKP7MGb99uR7PqetCfan9iGjKP7+bGuMU0cOCo= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a115.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D86984E40; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05D16E56; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:48:34 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:48:34 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: "Christoph P.U. Kukulies" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: how to use FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-i386.vmdk under vmware Message-ID: <20150622154834.GB92373@ozzmosis.com> References: <55880BF7.3040106@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55880BF7.3040106@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:48:38 -0000 On Mon 2015-06-22 15:21:59 UTC+0200, Christoph P.U. Kukulies (kuku@kukulies.org) wrote: > I downloaded a FreeBSD 10.1 vmware image FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-i386.vmdk > and would like to run it using > VMWARE Workstation 9.x. When starting the vmdk it says that it canot be > run, I should use the .vmx configuration file instead. > > Anyone knowing how to proceed from here? The vmdk file is a disk image. You need to create a VM first in VMware, then attach the vmdk as a hard drive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 16:01:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 968E7252 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 615ACC41 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-189.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5MG1cKO005965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:01:38 -0500 Message-ID: <55883162.8050501@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:07:53 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: GCC question References: <558585CB.4070607@hiwaay.net> <20150622154545.GA92373@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20150622154545.GA92373@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:01:46 -0000 On 06/22/15 10:52, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sat 2015-06-20 10:31:14 UTC-0453, William A. Mahaffey III (wam@hiwaay.net) wrote: > >> I have gcc 4.8 installed on this system. I notice a slight newer version >> available, specifically referencing AMD64, which this box is: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:15:12am] 630 % uname -a >> FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p13 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p13 #0: Tue >> Apr 7 03:01:12 UTC 2015 >> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:15:15am] 631 % grep -i gcc LIST.installed.txt >> gcc-4.8.4_3 GNU Compiler Collection 4.8 >> gcc-ecj-4.5 Eclipse Java Compiler used to build GCC Java >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 10:19:39am] 632 % grep -i gcc LIST.available.txt >> amd64-gcc-4.9.2_1 >> amd64-xtoolchain-gcc-0.1 > I suspect these are for cross-compiling to amd64 from non-amd64 hosts. > >> I only use ports for the flash library, however I am wondering if there >> might be any performance improvement in recompiling some stuff locally, >> possibly with a compiler tuned/optimized for AMD64. > The regular gcc in base is already tuned to amd64. > > You could use clang instead of gcc. It is the default C/C++ compiler > in FreeBSD 10. Performance benefits are likely to be marginal, > though. I found some sources online last summer when I built this box that said clang produced worse code than gcc, that's most of the reason I went w/ 9.3R rather than 10.n, which are clang based, as I understand things. I guess I am good to go now, then, thanks :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 16:09:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9B7E355 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a94.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D694EFF for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a94.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a94.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D1238A06F; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=42ZvJWvaddcUvDj7rFsn4rhj0gg=; b= RdbUoE4sR41Rgm3m1OnhgmmAEcUAAsxFhyk3N+QRq56eUke2DN9uBAzl/t1F4fzq XeZgiatHJOnSI/0uxYLRqvz4MVNRQcMZEhCUfvHcjbqBUxCNQXJdweqjZWZS4JDM Ou7icru23nVLKL3/fU2grExTJNNGX+r9xI1Thib5b/Q= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a94.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3022638A058; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9BC0DE65; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:09:29 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:09:29 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) Message-ID: <20150622160929.GC92373@ozzmosis.com> References: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:09:33 -0000 On Mon 2015-06-22 12:20:08 UTC+0200, Christoph Kukulies (kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) wrote: > I'm running a somewhat come into age server under FreeBSD 5.1 at the > moment and I'm in need to update to php5. Trying to install php-5.0.0 > in ports results in an error message > > fetch: > http://www.t.ring.gr.jp/archives/net/www/php/distributions/php-5.0.0.tar.bz2: > Not Found You'll probably need to download php-5.0.0.tar.bz2 manually and move it to /usr/ports/distfiles/. I imagine you're using the ports tree supplied with FreeBSD 5.1, which would be very old, so you'll encounter missing distfiles like the above. You could update your ports tree, however the ports tree in 2015 is no longer compatible with FreeBSD 5.1. I suspect PHP 5.0.0 is EOL upstream and has security issues and other bugs. I wouldn't recommend using it. Upgrading your server to a modern version of FreeBSD would allow you to install current supported versions of PHP, etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 16:17:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9A6142A for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (mail-la0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 728857AA for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by lacny3 with SMTP id ny3so113012155lac.3 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YA3hMHUHYTuPIc/VS9Xq0eP2pMqLxS8rtRiBFfBZaEI=; b=EUhazTyKBPJKXLLPi8yN1tU3ybEdy48J4m1D1xB65IquZwyhXtSMbtErB03IJzLyHH eI0d27+j+wgQzpbqBVhSNmRZSeOJj7E20dsilBGvzdj6fD5iu2EkftHA2kV3CelbutWv wbteVHp5yw5f0061SMlH3OEhMYbs2rXnIRei5wR3JdaHqu1LY/FtGElXBtp7XCnNqOTC yV4xAqIXkr56C0n/ucNvMzVZf9FzsIMF65R+0Jbv5WE30+WX2aLDftzn9GUMNOqbcQc2 lObqB7clWif5lVYn98MtJlzNvN+vxfigJinQr3zM1tPPKpnQj942Aa42NgmcEcAySIiT SS7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.153.8.171 with SMTP id dl11mr4576294lad.77.1434989843525; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.42.146 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:17:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: 10.1-RELEASE-p12 broke sendmail. 10.1-RELEASE-p13 didn't fix sendmail. From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:17:26 -0000 I updated to 10.1-RELEASE-p12 and my outgoing emails stopped working due to FreeBSD-EN-15:08.sendmail. I've never installed any ports and I have as default a setup as one can imagine. This leads me to believe that the documentation is wrong or that cosmic rays have corrupted my system. I have never touched a sendmail conf file. "mail root" fails with "dh key too small" in /var/log/maillog, both after -p12 and -p13. I tried following the errata to solve my problem, but got stuck at just about every step: - freebsd-update freebsd-update succeeded. I am now at 10.1-RELEASE-p13. But I still have the same problem (sendmail reports DH key too small). I did not reboot my machine (and it will be a pain for me to do so). Perhaps I should try the workaround? Perhaps I must reboot. - workaround Should I try the workaround? My preference is to find "root cause" for why freebsd-update failed to solve my problem. The workaround reports many steps, but already at step 1 I am stumped: 1. Edit /etc/mail/`hostname`.mc That file doesn't exist. I have a freebsd.mc though. I'll use that. 2. If a setting for confDH_PARAMETERS does not exist or exists and is set to a string beginning with '5', replace it with '1' for 1024-bit or '2' for 2048-bit. I have confDH_PARAMETERS defined to CERT_DIR/dh.param. /etc/mail/certs/dh.param doesn't exist. 3. If a setting for confDH_PARAMETERS exists and is set to a file path, create a new file with: openssl dhparam -out /path/to/file 2048 for 2048-bit or: openssl dhparam -out /path/to/file 1024 for 1024-bit. I could try this. But I would have expected freebsd-upate to 10.1-RELEASE-p13 to handle this. 4. If you have modified your MSP submission configuration file to enable STARTTLS (not enabled by default), repeat the above steps for /etc/mail/`hostname`.submit.mc. Definitely have not done that (or anything else for that matter). 5. Rebuild the .cf file(s): cd /etc/mail/; make; make install I could do that... 6. Restart sendmail: cd /etc/mail/; make restart I could do that... Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 16:23:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63A22503 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com (mail-la0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF2D6B85 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by lagi2 with SMTP id i2so23679260lag.2 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iGv6Ll8pITMI4Zp4GkxqezIVaLJKpPuTHRRfsLnU8gU=; b=Vcuhba+k09zozRaqkNqaFVS5oD94gkOD3ikVM+Ak9dHemXuyOrdzfVo8xDxq2QZI6p 8YtpY0313mmguQVp7XLaF5328S+kuLaVH6JqU2ePjg/lXQXeR8tugGYmPn4UsDbD/Bcd 3sTsSietaEfNR1mAn2DR6UKTfGmxPGAkOZwnwzfv6sVCpHe5JaYDFF0wIpKH/3Q4btB5 dazJZ4eqYJYW8O7MULbrm4LP7bv2z4mTlM5lTe/abOGQDoneUBvNMfhpjBJAQwFZ/FMx 8C/kyS8o+mDdS1vpGhRjvbKKfCXru7A2gXDDVl6oBmwQH2ULjwTmwYD43Z00y2zCie35 Xbtg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.206.75 with SMTP id lm11mr30224473lac.41.1434990198552; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.42.146 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52126574-1F3E-4B55-A187-8C39023FFF1B@citywest.ca> References: <52126574-1F3E-4B55-A187-8C39023FFF1B@citywest.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:23:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hot swap: removing hard drives From: Chris Stankevitz To: Keith Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:23:21 -0000 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Keith wrote: > We have some old dell 1950 and 2950s with fbsd 6.x 9..x and a 10 machine. Thanks Keith. What I'm trying to understand is what camcontrol command (if any) I must issue before hot-swap removing a healthy drive with no mounted filesystems. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 16:36:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1D525C2 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6357CA for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075623E405C; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=drw4aUmNSIwDMx6FLZdGwJ+FC58=; b= zGAOytijZS1EQAKvle7bM0GiddoECdWrW9h3AYLQ9FcnCdKipjE5VBwj/GpLomKz CJv2sUuCHb2ZcgymbVSdYGCXvQf4nu+Z6u34C+K64zCwc3S4qpb2N6nGwZOoUhp9 /UcudLzj/G50mf9oJHaWMzeRPrMFNqyMRL8LTA8vTJo= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6F923E4057; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B04BEFB; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:36:00 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:36:00 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! Subject: Re: GCC question Message-ID: <20150622163600.GD92373@ozzmosis.com> References: <558585CB.4070607@hiwaay.net> <20150622154545.GA92373@ozzmosis.com> <55883162.8050501@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55883162.8050501@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:36:04 -0000 On Mon 2015-06-22 11:07:53 UTC-0453, William A. Mahaffey III (wam@hiwaay.net) wrote: > I found some sources online last summer when I built this box that said > clang produced worse code than gcc, that's most of the reason I went w/ > 9.3R rather than 10.n, which are clang based, as I understand things. I > guess I am good to go now, then, thanks :-) .... I think you'll find 10.x is no slower than 9.x. Otherwise nobody would use 10.x. Whatever you read probably applied to a much older version of clang. "Last summer" is ambiguous btw. Earth has two hemispheres. Where I live it's winter. Incidentally your email program's time zone is very odd. UTC-0453? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 17:43:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63364964 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwoody@citywest.ca) Received: from backend.citywest.ca (backend.citywest.ca [69.176.191.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09A9B9A1 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwoody@citywest.ca) Received: (qmail 4730 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2015 17:43:19 -0000 Received: from 9conn42.rupert.net (HELO [192.168.1.141]) (kwoody@citywest.ca@209.145.96.42) by backend.citywest.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP (2b651216-1906-11e5-9e43-00215edca3d4); Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:43:19 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: hot swap: removing hard drives From: Keith X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:43:19 -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9AE88DDC-2005-4A42-9C8F-16E154201510@citywest.ca> References: <52126574-1F3E-4B55-A187-8C39023FFF1B@citywest.ca> To: Chris Stankevitz X-MagicMail-OS: Unknown X-MagicMail-UUID: 2b651216-1906-11e5-9e43-00215edca3d4 X-MagicMail-Authenticated: kwoody@citywest.ca X-MagicMail-SourceIP: 209.145.96.42 X-MagicMail-EnvelopeFrom: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:43:27 -0000 I dont use camcontrol, i use the mfiutil for the perc 5 controller.=20 When i pulled a healthy drive from one of our old dells i would use mfiutil t= o fail the good drive before removing it. But that was just in the lab for t= esting as i have no need to remove a healthy drive from a system.=20 Have not used camcontrol for a while now. Sorry dont know the answer to that= .=20 Keith > On Jun 22, 2015, at 09:23, Chris Stankevitz wr= ote: >=20 >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Keith wrote: >> We have some old dell 1950 and 2950s with fbsd 6.x 9..x and a 10 machine.= >=20 > Thanks Keith. What I'm trying to understand is what camcontrol > command (if any) I must issue before hot-swap removing a healthy drive > with no mounted filesystems. >=20 > Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 17:43:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C18E9D5 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuck@mantis.biz) Received: from zip.c7hosting.com (zip.c7hosting.com [96.47.41.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81E2DA3C for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuck@mantis.biz) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mantis.biz; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=VFIw18e7PM6InR5BWM/E6OTO1yEcXY0r+EHsXGDxdYg=; b=Tni0X9glsCxYS86JxJS298pKrgfspaLU7MyzrJPD5ykzjysfkQstVy5B8pRo4gwiF8fpdR4Bbjmg5Gh/wF9Yxk7ZCyjv9WzFw5s4HvpbcJszmluCvWjgltCyXvNd4qv8; Received: from toroon4213w-lp130-04-1176445566.dsl.bell.ca ([70.31.34.126]:56524 helo=[192.168.2.13]) by zip.c7hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z75l3-0003h3-3C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:43:45 -0400 Message-ID: <55884952.8060005@mantis.biz> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:43:46 -0400 From: "Chuck @ Mantis" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10.1-RELEASE-p12 broke sendmail. 10.1-RELEASE-p13 didn't fix sendmail. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zip.c7hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mantis.biz X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: zip.c7hosting.com: authenticated_id: chuck@mantis.biz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:43:53 -0000 On 6/22/2015 12:17 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > I updated to 10.1-RELEASE-p12 and my outgoing emails stopped working > due to FreeBSD-EN-15:08.sendmail. I've never installed any ports and > I have as default a setup as one can imagine. This leads me to > believe that the documentation is wrong or that cosmic rays have > corrupted my system. I have never touched a sendmail conf file. > > "mail root" fails with "dh key too small" in /var/log/maillog, both > after -p12 and -p13. > > I tried following the errata to solve my problem, but got stuck at > just about every step: > > - freebsd-update > > freebsd-update succeeded. I am now at 10.1-RELEASE-p13. But I still > have the same problem (sendmail reports DH key too small). I did not > reboot my machine (and it will be a pain for me to do so). Perhaps I > should try the workaround? Perhaps I must reboot. > > - workaround > > Should I try the workaround? My preference is to find "root cause" > for why freebsd-update failed to solve my problem. The workaround > reports many steps, but already at step 1 I am stumped: > > 1. Edit /etc/mail/`hostname`.mc > > That file doesn't exist. I have a freebsd.mc though. I'll use that. > > 2. If a setting for confDH_PARAMETERS does not exist or > exists and is set to a string beginning with '5', > replace it with '1' for 1024-bit or '2' for 2048-bit. > > I have confDH_PARAMETERS defined to CERT_DIR/dh.param. > /etc/mail/certs/dh.param doesn't exist. > > 3. If a setting for confDH_PARAMETERS exists and is set to > a file path, create a new file with: > openssl dhparam -out /path/to/file 2048 > for 2048-bit or: > openssl dhparam -out /path/to/file 1024 > for 1024-bit. > > I could try this. But I would have expected freebsd-upate to > 10.1-RELEASE-p13 to handle this. > > 4. If you have modified your MSP submission configuration > file to enable STARTTLS (not enabled by default), repeat > the above steps for /etc/mail/`hostname`.submit.mc. > > Definitely have not done that (or anything else for that matter). > > 5. Rebuild the .cf file(s): > cd /etc/mail/; make; make install > > I could do that... > > 6. Restart sendmail: > cd /etc/mail/; make restart > > I could do that... > > Thank you, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I've been dealing with this issue as well. cd /etc/mail/certs openssl dhparam -out dh.param 2048 service sendmail restart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 17:51:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 316FCAA3 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com (mail-ie0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED145E80 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iebrt9 with SMTP id rt9so9465820ieb.2 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:51:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cFvS0+BWXJedZfICTSVPsGjiJrYRxeHgo56F0zl5XXQ=; b=HVXKqJRI98k0638795AZIC2a36L5Lv276LMzO6SYLtcCim4QL+iaHcuJSNbsoZEKwE 6IFkkuaOeJjIrSu0IrJK0EHk5RPhbNCbi1QJonEo45cjjNgAztZ7Ow/c8fcNuKwgC/R/ bzKvTgraolVHUu85/3e2DiyK7yQcfcaERN1xoZcIRawx6UATA4KwC86OxaK3a+wNo/kO chSWdZSBWXGS3xKZvLgoGdR+8OadcJkKimG6CAH/UOg2JnAkakfgMDWup85f0VyLc9Ln LdEMbwd/uZcd9DGESUvqFYtw603O7koPdZY/VpIp2huNCjXJP03HCz1TVAVd7Tz1z+Af olzw== X-Received: by 10.107.25.199 with SMTP id 190mr41162530ioz.11.1434995512372; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w4sm7950597igl.22.2015.06.22.10.51.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55884B36.8000007@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:51:50 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to test for memory corruption ? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:51:53 -0000 On 06/22/2015 02:10 AM, Daniel Peyrolon wrote: > Hi, > > I have absolutely no idea, but maybe you can use DTrace for this? > > You could also print the location for each memory write. > > El sáb., 20 de junio de 2015 9:20, Pratik Singhal > escribió: > >> Hello, I have written code for adding support for DMA transfers for >> Allwinner A10 SoC (Cubieboard 1) in MMC driver/ >> >> I have tried transferring files to/from mmc card and verified that files >> are copied fine. >> Although, many times the kernel panics suddenly, after I transfer files. >> This does not happen If I use PIO to transfer data (PIO's code is tested >> and already committed to ~HEAD). Panics don't occur in the statements >> written for DMA transfer. >> >> I am suspecting that the problem is that the DMA transfer apart from >> writing where it is required, is overwriting other parts of the memory >> also. >> >> Is there any way, I can verify that this is/this is not the case ? >> >> Thank you, >> Pratik Singhal It would be helpful to the devs if you post a link to the source code of your dma support code and all the mods you made in support thereof. 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From: Chris Stankevitz To: "Chuck @ Mantis" Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:28:21 -0000 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Chuck @ Mantis wrote: > On 6/22/2015 12:17 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: >> freebsd-update succeeded. I am now at 10.1-RELEASE-p13. But I still >> have the same problem (sendmail reports DH key too small). I did not >> reboot my machine (and it will be a pain for me to do so). Perhaps I >> should try the workaround? Perhaps I must reboot. > > I've been dealing with this issue as well. > > cd /etc/mail/certs > > openssl dhparam -out dh.param 2048 > > service sendmail restart That worked, thank you. If anyone can give me a hint as to why the upgrading to 10.1-RELEASE-p13 apparently did not do this, please let me know. 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I have a work station with two Xeon processors. (2) I have installed FreeBSD 10.1 (3). I have no internet connection. (4) When I tried to use pkg to make my system fully functional, the system= declared pkg was not in the base system, I would need to fetch it over the I= nternet. That is impossible since I do not have internet capability. (5) Is there some other way for me to get pkg? (6) Why was something as basic as pkg not included in the base system? After all, the system is supposed to be self-contained? (7) I tried to install my old version 5.3, but the hardware would not accept= it. (8) Do I have any alternative to discarding the new hardware and FreeBSD? Sent from my iPhone= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 20:14:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D619C588 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85533F57 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-217.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5MKE4ed001484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:14:04 -0500 Message-ID: <55886C8C.4040306@hiwaay.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:20:19 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: GCC question References: <558585CB.4070607@hiwaay.net> <20150622154545.GA92373@ozzmosis.com> <55883162.8050501@hiwaay.net> <20150622163600.GD92373@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20150622163600.GD92373@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:14:06 -0000 On 06/22/15 11:42, andrew clarke wrote: > On Mon 2015-06-22 11:07:53 UTC-0453, William A. Mahaffey III (wam@hiwaay.net) wrote: > >> I found some sources online last summer when I built this box that said >> clang produced worse code than gcc, that's most of the reason I went w/ >> 9.3R rather than 10.n, which are clang based, as I understand things. I >> guess I am good to go now, then, thanks :-) .... > I think you'll find 10.x is no slower than 9.x. Otherwise nobody would > use 10.x. > > Whatever you read probably applied to a much older version of clang. Nope, it specifically referred to FreeBSD 10.n .... > "Last summer" is ambiguous btw. Earth has two hemispheres. Where I > live it's winter. Northern Hemisphere, (late) last summer was Aug/Sep 2014 :-) .... > Incidentally your email program's time zone is very odd. UTC-0453? > Yeah, I like my computers to report the same time I set my clocks to, which is about 6 min. fast, so I made up an oddball TZ to reflect that. It was discussed on the NetBSD-arm list, in case you want all the gory details ;-) .... -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 20:48:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE6A57EB for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [8.8.178.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hub.freebsd.org", Issuer "hub.freebsd.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2B9D35F for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A84F77EA; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D8D17E9 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-in7.apple.com (mail-out7.apple.com [17.151.62.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68F7F35E for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay8.apple.com (relay8.apple.com [17.128.113.102]) by mail-in7.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id AD.29.09370.D9478855; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:48:29 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e16-f79856d00000249a-e5-5588749da2f2 Received: from [17.149.233.88] (Unknown_Domain [17.149.233.88]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 6F.A3.00725.D9478855; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: pkg From: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:48:28 -0700 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: john.haraden@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCYpju3pCPU4Nx1Hov5v96xWHSf7GZ2 YPKY8Wk+i8esWYeZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDJWT1Iv6OGv+HB6InsD4wvuLkZODgkBE4n7 Sy8xQthiEhfurWfrYuTiEBLYxyhxvnsaG0zR3x3XGCESU5kkThzeBJZgFtCSuPHvJROIzSug J/Ho6WN2EFtYQEBixvZfzF2MHBxsAmoSEybygIQ5BWwllm/qBCthEVCV+LdhISvEGGOJuVMb WSBsbYllC18zQ4y0kjix/QBYXEjARuL+hVYwW0RASmLj2g2sIOMlBGQlvm6VAzlNQuArq8Sc bxOYJjAKzUJy3Swk181CsmIBI/MqRqHcxMwc3cw8c73EgoKcVL3k/NxNjKDwnW4ntoPx4Sqr Q4wCHIxKPLwz7NtDhVgTy4orcw8xSnOwKInz5iZ0hAoJpCeWpGanphakFsUXleakFh9iZOLg lGpg3F7Ds5Gf6aD2moicBQ47V/a4inIZSh2KsvY+/GIFY1ep3m3LJR33XR0fHhT5u/W03N12 c9dvQkrfj5x4Pkn4TUD9jS9bsgyOdhrvdp1wbb+84NLP5s0lbx/O3b6q/t3klV9q/TxT4zYo TFsSNPfl3zqLT/59jNXajKHPDze8jJ98ZVGK9bX9bUosxRmJhlrMRcWJAKky7n5AAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrALMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOPVlhO7cko5QgwmzuCzm/3rHYtF9spvZ gcljxqf5LB6zZh1mCmCK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4MpYPUm9oIe/4sPpiewNjC+4uxg5OSQETCT+ 7rjGCGGLSVy4t56ti5GLQ0hgKpPEicOb2EASzAJaEjf+vWQCsXkF9CQePX3MDmILCwhIzNj+ i7mLkYODTUBNYsJEHpAwp4CtxPJNnWAlLAKqEv82LGSFGGMsMXdqIwuErS2xbOFrZoiRVhIn th8AiwsJ2Ejcv9AKZosISElsXLuBFWS8hICsxNetchMY+WchOWgWkoNmIZm6gJF5FaNAUWpO YqWFXmJBQU6qXnJ+7iZGULg1FKbtYGxabnWIUYCDUYmHd4Z9e6gQa2JZcWXuIUYJDmYlEV6+ lI5QId6UxMqq1KL8+KLSnNTiQ4zSHCxK4rwLlreECgmkJ5akZqemFqQWwWSZODilGhgPqx8T 0Eqbd+33a9bTdzZoLHfWm5TQ5Fj5763ymrkTnpopcG3V6Vd/8PnFrZLZWhaX8qtYfNtcfvLp L/8k8VnG5GXHm6AdDheVuK/nHv7L9sz1hEzt9PlXZVdt+bOWe5nx/aI/UwS1ArPtThYvY531 X8SR8+cC3xcLly592GTqXvpGLSpp5eJwJZbijERDLeai4kQALvG8JDMCAAA= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:48:31 -0000 On Jun 22, 2015, at 1:12 PM, john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions = wrote: > (1). I have a work station with two Xeon processors. > (2) I have installed FreeBSD 10.1 > (3). I have no internet connection. > (4) When I tried to use pkg to make my system fully functional, the = system declared pkg was not in the base system, I would need to fetch it = over the Internet. That is impossible since I do not have internet = capability. You get a fully functioning FreeBSD system from the .iso images. If you = want to install external / third-party software, then using ports or pkg = via the Internet is a good solution, but it is not the only option. > (5) Is there some other way for me to get pkg? Sure. You can download pkg and the packages you want to have it install = onto a USB drive, burn them to a CD/DVD, etc. Note that the FreeBSD project provides a larger image with some common packages included as a DVD = image, ie: FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso > (6) Why was something as basic as pkg not included in the base = system? Packages and ports are not part of the base system by definition. I've got production firewalls based upon FreeBSD still running at = clients which never needed or had any additional third-party software installed on = them, for example.... > After all, the system is supposed to be self-contained? It is. FreeBSD is self-hosting and can be bootstrapped from source via the included compiler toolchain. > (7) I tried to install my old version 5.3, but the hardware would not = accept it. Good. You'd be missing a decade worth of security fixes, if nothing = else. > (8) Do I have any alternative to discarding the new hardware and = FreeBSD? You have many alternatives, but feel free to select the most = melodramatic option if doing so pleases you. Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 21:28:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56D6CBA7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3413CD58 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C5A23F746 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55887DE4.3070207@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:28:04 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Current state of firewire support? References: <201506221439.t5MEddYe026712@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <201506221439.t5MEddYe026712@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:28:06 -0000 >> crack it out of the case and wire it directly into a sata/ide port, or >> mount it in a usb caddy? If it was my personal drive, sure... other people don't tend to like it when you hack apart their stuff though :/ > Oh, nonsense. Quartz just read it wrong. That is perfectly possible. I haven't messed with firewire for a while and wasn't familiar with what freebsd used to offer, so I'm confused about what was changed. >Firewire support works > fine. Support for firewire was only removed from the GENERIC kernel > configuration file, so all he needs to do is put those lines into his > kernel configuration file and rebuild his kernel. > Also nonsense all he needs to do is > > kldload /boot/kernel/firewire.ko > or > echo 'firewire_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > and reboot Ok awesome, so I can add a line to loader.conf or if for some weird reason that fails just recompile the kernel? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 22:09:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7758FFC0; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5469AB9A; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DED9C3F758; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55888783.7080202@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:09:07 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john.haraden@yahoo.com CC: "john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions" , "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: pkg References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:09:09 -0000 > (4) When I tried to use pkg to make my system fully functional, the > system declared pkg was not in the base system, I would need to fetch > it over the Internet. >Why was something as basic as pkg not included in the base > system? After all, the system is supposed to be self-contained? Are you saying that the packages you wanted to install were not included, or the pkg command line utilities themselves were not included? Which image did you install from? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 22:24:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76A861B9 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hub.freebsd.org", Issuer "hub.freebsd.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 546DE1A8E for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4A39C1B8; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4989F1B7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E62F1A8D for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E8540119C04; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=N0Nqm1LrNjF0DApZfKHcQrFgFDM=; b= ywzRRicYigEIC7wvNbkf+bsoGV/GJlbsDQwrdx1eJrfKJ2xi4v9i7XQF1ifc6cvw sVAGDLrjP92vQmHxrpe9V7+Vv0EWBv/vmx/1sG7/WeBdT2EGsR1+IIidFVARfSoV xn4xb/dXl2gLIDapFhR5tlVCB6S3nx9tzWMjHTTTBbA= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a69.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE4B040119C02; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D6A4FC2; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:24:36 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:24:36 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: john.haraden@yahoo.com Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: pkg Message-ID: <20150622222436.GA11918@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:24:40 -0000 On Mon 2015-06-22 13:12:58 UTC-0700, john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions (freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) wrote: > (1). I have a work station with two Xeon processors. > (2) I have installed FreeBSD 10.1 > (3). I have no internet connection. > (4) When I tried to use pkg to make my system fully functional, the > system declared pkg was not in the base system, I would need to fetch > it over the Internet. That is impossible since I do not have internet > capability. > (5) Is there some other way for me to get pkg? pkg should be in the "packages" directory on your FreeBSD install DVD. You can install it with something along the lines of: mount /cdrom cd /cdrom/packages/*/All/ pkg add pkg-*.txz > (6) Why was something as basic as pkg not included in the base system? > After all, the system is supposed to be self-contained? pkg needs to be "bootstrapped" to be able to install other packages. See https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/pkgng-intro.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 22:42:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27C7D309 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D94285EB for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7APg-0004a6-7i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:42:10 +0200 Received: from pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([72.66.1.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:42:00 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:42:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: pkg Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:41:47 -0400 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-66-1-32.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:42:21 -0000 john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions wrote: > (1). I have a work station with two Xeon processors. > (2) I have installed FreeBSD 10.1 > (3). I have no internet connection. > (4) When I tried to use pkg to make my system fully functional, the > system declared pkg was not in the base system, I would need to fetch it > over the Internet. That is impossible since I do not have internet > capability. [snip] > > Sent from my iPhone Not trying to sound rude here, but can you utilize your iPhone to read the appropriate sections of the Handbook that deal with network configuration? If not, possibly we may be able to help - depending upon circumstantial variables. pkg is not needed to configure networking within the base system, with the possible exceptions being some ndis wrapper stuff and other firmwares. iirc there is even a place during the installation which allows for most basic networking configuration. Whether or not there is support in the base system will depend upon what hardware you are trying to use. If your hardware is not supported by FreeBSD at all installing pkg will not fix that. Bottom line is you more than likely *can* have Internet connectivity with what you have currently installed; it just needs to be configured. Then you can move on to whatever. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 22:54:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C80A4405 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89B37B3A for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99F97276AF; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:54:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5MMsXmu002084; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:54:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:54:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Current state of firewire support? Message-Id: <20150623005433.a999ebee.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55887DE4.3070207@sneakertech.com> References: <201506221439.t5MEddYe026712@sdf.org> <55887DE4.3070207@sneakertech.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:54:37 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:28:04 -0400, Quartz wrote: > > Also nonsense all he needs to do is > > > > kldload /boot/kernel/firewire.ko > > or > > echo 'firewire_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > > and reboot > > Ok awesome, so I can add a line to loader.conf or if for some weird > reason that fails just recompile the kernel? Kernel options: # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code #device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) device fwip # IP over FireWire (RFC 2734,3146) device dcons # Dumb console driver device dcons_crom # Configuration ROM for dcons The kernel has several FireWire settings you could apply. However, using kernel modules is easier and works in most cases out of the box. That's often a better approach than dealing with a custom (!) kernel. Just re-compiling GENERIC usually won't change anything. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 22:54:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 042A1473 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5C91BCB for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 358433F74E for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5588923B.8050409@sneakertech.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:54:51 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Current state of firewire support? References: <201506221439.t5MEddYe026712@sdf.org> <55887DE4.3070207@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <55887DE4.3070207@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:54:54 -0000 >> Firewire support works >> fine. Support for firewire was only removed from the GENERIC kernel >> configuration file, so all he needs to do is put those lines into his >> kernel configuration file and rebuild his kernel. > >> Also nonsense all he needs to do is >> >> kldload /boot/kernel/firewire.ko >> or >> echo 'firewire_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf >> and reboot Also: is fw800 support included here as well, or do I have to do something special for that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 22 22:58:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFBFA511 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hub.freebsd.org", Issuer "hub.freebsd.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AED4ECEB for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A4CB3510; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3FE850F for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a114.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888D9CEA for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a114.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a114.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E279600DA52B; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:58:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=MYt7DbDjUFlTRhERoH3qcmcM7vs=; b= grR+lH0C17h15OqEB05P3GeymZVU2xeW1QFV5Q9eVO407qC+L1VqM6svvGtLhOJL W5Jty5+5UFD6btD9RHL7pBz8cHE81+r7L5wxqFg3XD73UlZOlqUEpe/bXPXMQ+O0 hxjEe6XVb9RYWXGBSeDViRbYLFMXTJGMxhRuKLOVYlo= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a114.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61DBB600DA52A; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8B4DFCF; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:58:25 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:58:25 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: john.haraden@yahoo.com Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: pkg Message-ID: <20150622225825.GA12323@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:58:29 -0000 On Mon 2015-06-22 13:12:58 UTC-0700, john.haraden--- via freebsd-questions (freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) wrote: > (1). I have a work station with two Xeon processors. > (2) I have installed FreeBSD 10.1 > (3). I have no internet connection. > (4) When I tried to use pkg to make my system fully functional, the > system declared pkg was not in the base system, I would need to fetch > it over the Internet. That is impossible since I do not have internet > capability. I forgot to mention in my last reply: You aren't clear whether you deliberately have no internet connection, or whether your aim is to connect to the internet by way of installing pkg. Because pkg won't actually help you connect to the Internet. Also, for all intents and purposes, once the base system is properly installed from CD, it is "fully functional". Installing software using pkg means you are installing software that is not part of FreeBSD. By the way, it's been some time since I did it, so my memory is foggy, but the FreeBSD installer itself should've given you the opportunity to install packages from the installation DVD, which would've installed pkg. 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Sent from my iPhone= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 05:54:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 735A9845 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50B0CA96 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD53A3F6D6; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5588F4A4.2020500@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:54:44 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Haraden CC: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: pkg References: <55888783.7080202@sneakertech.com> <9D082AF4-E80A-4674-92A5-9D4828944357@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <9D082AF4-E80A-4674-92A5-9D4828944357@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:54:47 -0000 > I installed from an installation disk. Err, define "installation disk". You purchased a cd/dvd? Or you burned dvd1.iso? Imaged memstick.img to a usb drive? Something else? >The packages are on the disk > but not the package utilities. Ok, so the only image that contains any packages would be the dvd1.iso, (which only contains a handful of super common stuff). Have you gone though the pkg pages in the docs? https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pkgng-intro.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 07:59:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2709F3 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de (mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.5.186]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de", Issuer "RWTH Aachen CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E697EF7A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,664,1427752800"; d="scan'208";a="458190480" Received: from hub2.rwth-ad.de (HELO mail.rwth-aachen.de) ([134.130.26.143]) by mx-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2015 09:59:19 +0200 Received: from [172.27.4.215] (87.79.34.228) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (134.130.26.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:59:18 +0200 Message-ID: <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:59:15 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Organization: I. Physikalisches Institut Ib RWTH-Aachen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew clarke CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) References: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20150622160929.GC92373@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20150622160929.GC92373@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMWin-Version: 3.1.3.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:59:30 -0000 Am 22.06.2015 um 18:09 schrieb andrew clarke: > On Mon 2015-06-22 12:20:08 UTC+0200, Christoph Kukulies (kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) wrote: > >> I'm running a somewhat come into age server under FreeBSD 5.1 at the >> moment and I'm in need to update to php5. Trying to install php-5.0.0 >> in ports results in an error message >> >> fetch: >> http://www.t.ring.gr.jp/archives/net/www/php/distributions/php-5.0.0.tar.bz2: >> Not Found > You'll probably need to download php-5.0.0.tar.bz2 manually and move > it to /usr/ports/distfiles/. Although you may be right with regard to obsoleteness of 5.0.0 and my 5.1 version in general, I'm wondering whether it would be possible to run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). At the moment I'm urgently in need to update an intranet forum (pbpBB3) to a 3.1.5 version and this requires a newer (>= 5.3.3) version of php. -- Christoph > > I imagine you're using the ports tree supplied with FreeBSD 5.1, which > would be very old, so you'll encounter missing distfiles like the > above. > > You could update your ports tree, however the ports tree in 2015 is no > longer compatible with FreeBSD 5.1. > > I suspect PHP 5.0.0 is EOL upstream and has security issues and other > bugs. I wouldn't recommend using it. > > Upgrading your server to a modern version of FreeBSD would allow you > to install current supported versions of PHP, etc. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 08:06:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AECD1D7 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de (mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.5.186]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de", Issuer "RWTH Aachen CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC4DD612 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,664,1427752800"; d="scan'208";a="458192616" Received: from hub2.rwth-ad.de (HELO mail.rwth-aachen.de) ([134.130.26.143]) by mx-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2015 10:06:00 +0200 Received: from [172.27.4.215] (87.79.34.228) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (134.130.26.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:05:59 +0200 Message-ID: <55891364.10205@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:05:56 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Organization: I. Physikalisches Institut Ib RWTH-Aachen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: chinese back posts to the list resp. to me when posting Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMWin-Version: 3.1.3.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:06:02 -0000 I'm always getting replies from some chines email adresses: ljj_...@sina.com and jz..@vip.sina.com when posting sth. to freebsd-questions. I assume these aren't just "vacation"-replies? Can these be filtered out? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 08:14:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DC8A2D5 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20671A35 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51DE03CE1E; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:13:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5N8DrHv002507; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:13:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:13:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: chinese back posts to the list resp. to me when posting Message-Id: <20150623101353.f731368b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55891364.10205@physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <55891364.10205@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:14:03 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:05:56 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I'm always getting replies from some chines email adresses: > ljj_...@sina.com and jz..@vip.sina.com when posting sth. to > freebsd-questions. > I assume these aren't just "vacation"-replies? As far as it has been explained (and partially translated) in several discussion threads already: yes, they are. :-) > Can these be filtered out? Not by the list maintainers, but _you_ can do it. Either define a filter rule in your MUA / MDA, or just press on the (relatively few) messages when they appear - at least that's what I do, because I'm far too lazy to write a simple filter when a simpler keypress is simplerer. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 08:24:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8C97396 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C0C8DB3 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t5N8OdQV006478 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:24:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t5N8OdQV006478 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t5N8OdQV006478; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <558917BC.30804@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:24:28 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) References: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20150622160929.GC92373@ozzmosis.com> <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> In-Reply-To: <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pvuVvKdT87LE7jXeaRe1RT06tTTohWRDk" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:25:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --pvuVvKdT87LE7jXeaRe1RT06tTTohWRDk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/23/15 08:59, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Although you may be right with regard to obsoleteness of 5.0.0 and my > 5.1 version in general, > I'm wondering whether it would be possible to > run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). 5.1 Release happened during a particularly difficult period for FreeBSD development. As I recall, it was quite quickly superseded by 5.2 release due to technical inadequacies, and it wasn't until the 6.x series that FreeBSD really got back on track. > At the moment I'm urgently in need to update an intranet forum (pbpBB3)= to > a 3.1.5 version and this requires a newer (>=3D 5.3.3) version of php. Your quickest and most reliable way forward is to upgrade your FreeBSD box to something supported. Given you're starting from such an old base, the way I'd approach this is to buy a new hard drive, install it in parallel with your old drive (if possible) and then create a new install of FreeBSD 10.1, install all the software you need and migrate over the configurations, passwd file etc. from the old system. Although 5.1 release is so old now, you much have trouble getting hold of disks compatible with your hardware -- I think that pre-dates the common availability of both SAS and SATA... Matthew --pvuVvKdT87LE7jXeaRe1RT06tTTohWRDk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIbBAEBCgAGBQJViRfGAAoJEABRPxDgqeTnhLkP+I5eQyyb/eNytkPDHKhV4E7z E7mHLOcEImnHFh2z5AOqs1g+Yhjk0EwShGrpq33vk+2zP9fee2PDnJz+FXfGUbQK AzrdJdvnXB0/Lc2dqulS9jBaoSkVaofJ+KQK6e+VqPw+tqYMQZh3PHHUGsfSEEti zjl0347YiEgblmo8wJMdiAKkW5yrHjgXJdUVvAKd2L+NogOK7QuvZ5T/4A7NMTly cljX+obDJyCbUIQ2DqTXRbAyKI0KwVf0khl1oXKQ7Bmu2cEu/n7TleZ6KG/06ZXS pwymJdDMIJctdo/nOh5ircfpo7frJXktEa9Potte5IxzYpOuVU32DEBQBNFmBvr3 nsPrWJRK1sfbFSWzwF9tWSzJN5RSVPu7vgG6z39E4c+vDAlAPl1MGtOfUJShQRla VuIf42ScSXqW+hAoL8faOyoTJHtR1We363DfY45uYO1Emqg/ccU1HC797XRiSOLa tpzNQyuTXQrkQwreFIjMvcilswtC84h0cnrzOxykUyaPoUHl6EBtsIhbXo1aoeI6 nthntd36hGsRG5bfOl4zdE3mL2BpX05eBhjj7ZHpf+ZIVsXEbOWR21MVkBGhZglF pEX0RCZsWXSDRusfZ6B2RF67yOkw8CEGLCtceBZ6UaO5YGk4lITu2kQ7j94lKVCf BsfAQZsCf9+g4OM9Ye4= =qwke -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pvuVvKdT87LE7jXeaRe1RT06tTTohWRDk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 09:16:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8C6D78D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B3FBA89 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC66D3CF57; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:16:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5N9GBX6002701; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:16:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:16:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) Message-Id: <20150623111611.9f567f0d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:16:15 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:20:08 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I'm running a somewhat come into age server under FreeBSD 5.1 at the > moment and I'm in need to > update to php5. You'll face too many problems that it's probably easier to install a supported version of FreeBSD (typically 10.1) and then build all the software you need, followed by "migration of data" (configuration, user accounts, user data, forum data and so on). You could try to build a current PHP on a current OS version and then try to install it on the old system, but that won't work because so many things have changed. The default package format and compression is different, and the old pkg_* tools are deprecated. Building from source would be the only option, but again, the toolchain has changed and the current sources probably won't compile. Running FreeBSD 5 in a trusted (!) intranet typically is not a problem. I have a file server running FreeBSD 4.4, and I do not plan to replace it (because it works too well). Of course I also do not plan to update any software it's running, because that would be impossible. :-) In your case, you will have more success with a new install, for sure. Do it in parallel (new machine, or at least new disk during scheduled downtime) so you can quickly switch over to the new system after you have verified everything works as you expect. Good luck! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 09:29:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0D7B89B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89038F2D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp118-210-151-206.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.151.206]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2015 18:59:06 +0930 Message-ID: <558926E0.1030808@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:59:04 +0930 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de, andrew clarke CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) References: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20150622160929.GC92373@ozzmosis.com> <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> In-Reply-To: <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:29:14 -0000 On 23/06/2015 17:29, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Am 22.06.2015 um 18:09 schrieb andrew clarke: >> On Mon 2015-06-22 12:20:08 UTC+0200, Christoph Kukulies >> (kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) wrote: >> >>> I'm running a somewhat come into age server under FreeBSD 5.1 at the >>> moment and I'm in need to update to php5. Trying to install php-5.0.0 >>> in ports results in an error message >>> >>> fetch: >>> http://www.t.ring.gr.jp/archives/net/www/php/distributions/php-5.0.0.tar.bz2: >>> >>> Not Found >> You'll probably need to download php-5.0.0.tar.bz2 manually and move >> it to /usr/ports/distfiles/. > > Although you may be right with regard to obsoleteness of 5.0.0 and my > 5.1 version in general, > I'm wondering whether it would be possible to > run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). No. The other way works, newer systems have compatibility layers to support old binaries but an old system won't run a new binary. > At the moment I'm urgently in need to update an intranet forum (pbpBB3) to > a 3.1.5 version and this requires a newer (>= 5.3.3) version of php. Well FBSD 5.1 was released in June 2003 and 5.5 in May 2006 so ports support for the 5.x branch could have stopped as early as the middle of 2008 If you go to http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports and set the sticky revision you can look through what was available at that time. A couple of quick svn searches shows that rev 21000 was in march 2008 but I'm not sure of the versions, both www/mod_php4 and mod_php5 use distfiles of php-4.0b2 Pick a revision around that time that has a versions you want, checkout a copy and try building, as url's change you may need to manually download the files you need, you should find the main sites have older versions that mirrors no longer keep. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 09:43:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F6A96B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de (mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.5.186]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de", Issuer "RWTH Aachen CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7800C9D6 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,665,1427752800"; d="scan'208";a="458214940" Received: from hub1.rwth-ad.de (HELO mail.rwth-aachen.de) ([134.130.26.142]) by mx-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2015 11:42:57 +0200 Received: from [172.27.4.215] (87.79.34.228) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (134.130.26.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:42:57 +0200 Message-ID: <55892A1E.2090005@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:42:54 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Organization: I. Physikalisches Institut Ib RWTH-Aachen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: pkg conflict (perl5-5.20.2_4 with perl5.20-5.20.0_3) install subversion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMWin-Version: 3.1.3.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:43:01 -0000 I'm trying to install vmwaretools for FreeBSD 10.1 and in the course of that I'll have to build a patched kernel. I'm advised to do pkg install subversion to get the kernel sources. Doing this I'm getting a conflict: [9/15] Installing perl5-5.20.2_4... pkg: perl5-5.20.2_4 conflicts with perl5.20-5.20.0_3 (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/a2p and bails out, what to do? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 09:54:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EB97A91 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AD43EA9 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 589C63F6DD; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55892CE0.1000200@sneakertech.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:54:40 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kuku@physik.rwth-aachen.de CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: chinese back posts to the list resp. to me when posting References: <55891364.10205@physik.rwth-aachen.de> In-Reply-To: <55891364.10205@physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:54:43 -0000 > ljj_...@sina.com and jz..@vip.sina.com when posting sth. to > freebsd-questions. I assume these aren't just "vacation"-replies? According to google translate: "We have received your letter! THX!" Looks like someone set a global autoreply without thinking. > Can these be filtered out? It looks like an innocent mistake and it's probably temporary, so pulling them off the list is likely bad form. Just set up a quick kill filter in your client or something. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 10:25:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E6C5BFD for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick-shaw@hotmail.com) Received: from DUB004-OMC4S18.hotmail.com (dub004-omc4s18.hotmail.com [157.55.2.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2803C9A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick-shaw@hotmail.com) Received: from DUB121-W7 ([157.55.2.72]) by DUB004-OMC4S18.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:24:25 -0700 X-TMN: [+ctnc3EgTP0ppTVZLBfBryosUVralnPM] X-Originating-Email: [nick-shaw@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Nick Shaw To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: FreeBSD community member engaging in online harassment Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:24:25 +0100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2015 10:24:25.0963 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7A483B0:01D0AD9E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:25:36 -0000 Hi there=2C=20 I was browsing reddit today and saw an example on the front page of online = bullying. In this instance=2C a girl who identifies herself as "freebsdgirl= " is on twitter harassing and being extremely abusive towards another freeb= sd community member. She referred to him as a rape apologist=2C creepy abus= er and creepy uncle. From what I could see he simply retweeted something by= someone she didn't like.=20 The victim's name is Johannes Meixner and the harasser's name is Randi Harp= er. I was then led via reddit to a facebook post wherein he expresses his f= eelings=2C discusses his mental illnesses etc. She again hounds him.=20 https://www.facebook.com/johannes.jost.meixner/posts/839246119483473 She is announcing via twitter that your group will soon be taking decisive = action against the guy=2C despite the fact he hasn't actually done anything= except seemingly piss off an internet troll/harasser. It's worrying that s= he's using her relative twitter popularity to engage in witchhunts like the= se.=20 Here is their private chat log (which they're both spreading over reddit) -= https://archive.is/9KGyX - as you can see her behaviour is simply appallin= g and she's an ill mannered troll. I work in tech myself and had been thinking about getting involved in open = source=2C but I have zero time for people like her who wish to defame innoc= ent people (especially with the extreme things she's coming off with) and I= hope she is informed that this kind of bullying=2C vicious=2C nasty behavi= our is unacceptable and deeply not in the spirit of togetherness.=20 This isn't the first time I've seen this character harassing people who dis= agree with her=2C calling them disgusting names and setting twitter mobs on= them.=20 Just thought I'd bring it to your attention. She's still inciting her mob o= n twitter towards the guy and spreading lies about him right this minute. I= 'm sorry I couldn't come to you with better news=2C but I hate this kind of= online bullying. The guy does not deserve to have his name dragged through= the mud by this troll. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 13:49:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FABAA65 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D33DDA6 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-208.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.208]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5NDnH5L018292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:49:18 -0500 Message-ID: <558963DD.8030002@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:55:32 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Oddball text output Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:49:20 -0000 .... I am getting sporadic (about once daily occurences of the following text output to terminal shells logged in as root: 1434986460323 addons.update-checker WARN Update manifest for {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property This box is a desktop running 9.3R-p13, w/ no explicit console (I suspect this is intended to be console output, but that is definitely speculation). I seems to be harmless, but is noticable & persistent. Any ideas what is causing it ? TIA & have a good one. [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:51:31am] 647 % uname -a FreeBSD kabini1.local 9.3-RELEASE-p13 FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p13 #0: Tue Apr 7 03:01:12 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:54:47am] 648 % grep pkg LIST.installed.txt pkg-1.5.4 Package manager pkgconf-0.9.10 Utility to help to configure compiler and linker flags [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:54:55am] 649 % -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 14:58:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A899BD92 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59EA2FDE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-208.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.208]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5NEwcLm031393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:58:39 -0500 Message-ID: <5589741E.30108@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:04:53 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: [OT] hopefully easy question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:58:42 -0000 I am looking on Ebay for a battery for an older laptop I have. I used the following search, assembled in their search bar: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=compaq+presario+v5000+battery&_ipg=200&rt=nc This turned up a bunch of chargers 1st, which I don't want. Is there a way to add a 'negate' to the search string ? I tried adding '+(!charger)' to the URL text-string & got *only* chargers. FWIW, I am doing this under FBSD 9.3R, XFCE desktop, firefox, all FreeBSD, just to make it peripherially on topic :-) .... TIA for any (quick, don't bang any heads on walls over this) clues. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 15:08:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0D17EBC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D7727A7 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by lbbwc1 with SMTP id wc1so8684570lbb.2 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TADxStQdsM0L/xK0aF2HKdXMcGbZemGM4dOLA2ncuvA=; b=aCUEiIsNYx/eRmEV2CgOrYBhUf/9PYTtfdlxur9pODTZKWUPKoDve0RxOIjDVgQgwW 2mN8pSyd2xJgstoC8ATMbtmy7cxRzrgB4whGyZ5siGLbV4wuECEWsNUnoTBiUoZUh6en Fpb+lHjsNU4WTOH0qdQ9g81qgMHWJ6Acnv7KPYPn6sI7ceRmHrPkbRnwVzlDyFO4GNjJ tyEmovfeDpYDkhdmmoH/+NyFdCssS+v22gFEcC+CXSuetAg4sGvFhPBz6kS7aWk68INa zBXnIJZFEUUYKGOKhaaM2cOonwu1+eEILX077J/jzsx9gdE2yt72yKr1B022HhCCobDq P73Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkwn9NVT0w8nizfEnlD79+Vo1UH0DjLrI/6Zvr8XYuKkX0/rSVWe/T5+eyQKXwUc2SYgkEw MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.30.133 with SMTP id s5mr36118230lbh.31.1435071763104; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.4.194 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [199.164.160.13] Received: by 10.152.4.194 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5589741E.30108@hiwaay.net> References: <5589741E.30108@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:02:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [OT] hopefully easy question From: "Brian W." To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:08:52 -0000 Doesn't the Google tactic of -negatestring work? On Jun 23, 2015 7:58 AM, "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > > > I am looking on Ebay for a battery for an older laptop I have. I used the > following search, assembled in their search bar: > > > > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=compaq+presario+v5000+battery&_ipg=200&rt=nc > > > This turned up a bunch of chargers 1st, which I don't want. Is there a way > to add a 'negate' to the search string ? I tried adding '+(!charger)' to > the URL text-string & got *only* chargers. FWIW, I am doing this under FBSD > 9.3R, XFCE desktop, firefox, all FreeBSD, just to make it peripherially on > topic :-) .... TIA for any (quick, don't bang any heads on walls over this) > clues. > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 15:09:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E7A5F4B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 074AA93B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-208.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.208]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5NF9QQO008973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:09:26 -0500 Message-ID: <558976A6.50400@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:15:41 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] hopefully easy question References: <5589741E.30108@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:09:28 -0000 On 06/23/15 10:08, Brian W. wrote: > > Doesn't the Google tactic of -negatestring work? > > On Jun 23, 2015 7:58 AM, "William A. Mahaffey III" > wrote: > > > > I am looking on Ebay for a battery for an older laptop I have. I > used the following search, assembled in their search bar: > > > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=compaq+presario+v5000+battery&_ipg=200&rt=nc > > > This turned up a bunch of chargers 1st, which I don't want. Is > there a way to add a 'negate' to the search string ? I tried > adding '+(!charger)' to the URL text-string & got *only* chargers. > FWIW, I am doing this under FBSD 9.3R, XFCE desktop, firefox, all > FreeBSD, just to make it peripherially on topic :-) .... TIA for > any (quick, don't bang any heads on walls over this) clues. > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > I never heard of that Google tactic, sorry :-/ .... Is that in the search bar or the URL string ? TIA & thanks :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 15:12:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 505C6FD8 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9A39C4D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by laka10 with SMTP id a10so8672939lak.0 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:12:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PJQearlKOScu4VgGxxsO3ulAAqPQPLK3SaUywAkZ3dM=; b=RkFvGJX0Io8AAF+dXomq6je+uCu3f2qCAq8aJ27B2ltkn41PGp2A8bI8xAtoZ5U2p4 i9nyAiRtSMT+StqwaJF4UaWTBnframk/Xldx7S6Ei61YO0Cq/0YVHWWmMc6krQIMPnd7 j4E39kH0cmSYbjlYiWFBHDs0gG1Kzz9MRwuH922u+IdxY8W5wTa8k9NU2peYmqOtEtaX Wb7mEY80ItPl0/6VXCyRkF+M+uNcaKs9N1VoCgCiMzOG/KzeGdMr7UNgjR+2DJqK5uoj 2tiwChDY58DnGl4Kkob2ysvxzFVCfpu4X1djQDdMC43ZrGsLRuXWzs3m6BfUryWOuOC4 z7vQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.164.193 with SMTP id ys1mr35686969lab.65.1435072334847; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.24.79 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:12:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5589741E.30108@hiwaay.net> References: <5589741E.30108@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:12:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [OT] hopefully easy question From: Andrew Gould To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:12:17 -0000 The url below has 2 battery options (Compaq Presario v5000): http://www.batteriesplus.com/products/548-0/6673-Notebook-Laptop-Batteries/133203-Compaq/Presario-V5000/2735-2969-Presario-V5000-Series/1.aspx I'm not promoting Batteries Plus (nor am I speaking against them). If you find what you want, you could try searching eBay using the specific battery model number. Good luck, Andrew On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > I am looking on Ebay for a battery for an older laptop I have. I used the > following search, assembled in their search bar: > > > > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=compaq+presario+v5000+battery&_ipg=200&rt=nc > > > This turned up a bunch of chargers 1st, which I don't want. Is there a way > to add a 'negate' to the search string ? I tried adding '+(!charger)' to > the URL text-string & got *only* chargers. FWIW, I am doing this under FBSD > 9.3R, XFCE desktop, firefox, all FreeBSD, just to make it peripherially on > topic :-) .... TIA for any (quick, don't bang any heads on walls over this) > clues. > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 15:49:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BC6E2B8 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1879CE8; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5NFmwVq070685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:48:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5NFmwwc070682; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:48:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:48:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Matthew Seaman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) In-Reply-To: <558917BC.30804@freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20150622160929.GC92373@ozzmosis.com> <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> <558917BC.30804@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:48:58 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:49:01 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 06/23/15 08:59, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> Although you may be right with regard to obsoleteness of 5.0.0 and my >> 5.1 version in general, >> I'm wondering whether it would be possible to >> run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). > > 5.1 Release happened during a particularly difficult period for FreeBSD > development. As I recall, it was quite quickly superseded by 5.2 release > due to technical inadequacies, and it wasn't until the 6.x series that > FreeBSD really got back on track. > >> At the moment I'm urgently in need to update an intranet forum (pbpBB3) to >> a 3.1.5 version and this requires a newer (>= 5.3.3) version of php. > > Your quickest and most reliable way forward is to upgrade your FreeBSD > box to something supported. Given you're starting from such an old > base, the way I'd approach this is to buy a new hard drive, install it > in parallel with your old drive (if possible) and then create a new > install of FreeBSD 10.1, install all the software you need and migrate > over the configurations, passwd file etc. from the old system. Agreed, except I would suggest a completely separate computer for the new install. Old stuff that has been running for years can be fragile. Moving a cable that has been motionless for years can make it fail, and it's somehow a given that these systems are never backed up. Given the age of the 5.1 system, replacement hardware is probably easily available (free), or a VM can be used. The old system can be imaged onto a second drive or partition on the new system for convenience of copying configurations, or just copy them from the live old system with rsync or scp. 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Soci=E9t=E9 en Commandite par Actions Registered Office: 5th Floor 22-24 Boulevard Royal L-2449, Luxembourg RCS Luxembourg B 118 349 PayPal Email ID PP152-7832trcxcy09832 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 17:40:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB55F8DA for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter03.peakinternet.com (filter03.peakinternet.com [207.55.16.94]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91A25CDE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by filter03.peakinternet.com ({a3d4bcbc-467e-4baf-8e5e-c89ccb4fcca2}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20150623173714619_0000 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:37:14 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 010844E0BC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FEA4DDBE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta02.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ChOCKyE78SIX for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-05.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-05.peak.org [207.55.17.95]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D8A4E0AE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7S8G-0005vp-KT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:37:12 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chinese back posts to the list resp. to me when posting References: <55891364.10205@physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20150623101353.f731368b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:37:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20150623101353.f731368b.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:13:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87zj3ql41j.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:40:49 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:05:56 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> I'm always getting replies from some chines email adresses: >> ljj_...@sina.com and jz..@vip.sina.com when posting sth. to >> freebsd-questions. >> I assume these aren't just "vacation"-replies? > > As far as it has been explained (and partially translated) > in several discussion threads already: yes, they are. :-) I did a grep for sina.com and found several spams with a Reply-To for .sina.com, so I now consider them a spam site. I now filter out anything from them or with a Reply-To for them. >> Can these be filtered out? > > Not by the list maintainers, but _you_ can do it. Either > define a filter rule in your MUA / MDA, or just press > on the (relatively few) messages when they appear - at least > that's what I do, because I'm far too lazy to write a simple > filter when a simpler keypress is simplerer. :-) -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 18:43:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70708B3E for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com (mail-lb0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEB8B751 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by lbbwc1 with SMTP id wc1so12402392lbb.2 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kpYYGlZGCblnNKy5Eh+4YBv2R+zWGF8p9jWGvbXOAks=; b=w9A+fXNVHB8jCVc/wovNjaB3jbgoDIA+u5lUXpzIBRlSwOywi4PXFW5IYw14vb4s12 vAlnkEhM+VMs8fh2cyZCyzZund0Ls76HNhLKQoEQMTizhrQVeymheezikSO9F3Jzu7Pw Waln7PyYAOl1yYqoldcnCB5OdpjN+oaaRDHfe3+IF5s2y3J8WWW6kk15D5zXzBfF5BV2 /dxCjmqcKRkhPoihtGnzfaFxff8MjxxydPjhkDa+uiIfMymgTlbt11QqKjMYe4jJVJu+ xJalkX+5C8qGhHT1Bp79OOXzpRaZffaPfJ9yrwXOOUxq2KdhvhlIkLq0fL/eoZjiV5aS 2n5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.151.178 with SMTP id ur18mr36936965lbb.59.1435084992185; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.42.146 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:43:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: chown silently fails to respect NSS From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:43:14 -0000 Hi, Why is chown is silently failing to chown a file to a winbind user that is listed in 'getent passwd'? I can chown to other users on the system. I can also chown to arbitrary numbers as long as they do not match those from winbind. My guess: "uid == (uid_t)-1" which causes chown to silently fail. Perhaps getpwnam doesn't work with NSS? Thank you, Chris === root@zinc:~/temp # ls -l total 0 root@zinc:~/temp # pwd /root/temp root@zinc:~/temp # getent passwd MYDOMAIN\\cstankevitz MYDOMAIN\cstankevitz:*:4294967295:4294967295:Chris Stankevitz:/home/MYDOMAIN/cstankevitz:/bin/false root@zinc:~/temp # touch file.txt root@zinc:~/temp # ls -l total 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 23 11:34 file.txt root@zinc:~/temp # chown -v -v MYDOMAIN\\cstankevitz file.txt root@zinc:~/temp # ls -l total 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 23 11:34 file.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 18:44:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94250BAA for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D414805 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from [67.49.10.59] ([67.49.10.59:57367] helo=bsdstb) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id D2/6D-04230-938A9855; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:40:57 +0000 From: Cary To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) In-Reply-To: (message from Warren Block on Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:48:58 -0600 (MDT)) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:38:46 -0700 Message-ID: <86oak6p8w9.fsf@bsdstb.Belkin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:44:17 -0000 Warren Block writes: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 06/23/15 08:59, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>> Although you may be right with regard to obsoleteness of 5.0.0 and my >>> 5.1 version in general, >>> I'm wondering whether it would be possible to >>> run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). >> >> 5.1 Release happened during a particularly difficult period for FreeBSD >> development. As I recall, it was quite quickly superseded by 5.2 release >> >> Your quickest and most reliable way forward is to upgrade your FreeBSD >> box to something supported. Given you're starting from such an old > Agreed, except I would suggest a completely separate computer for the > new install. Old stuff that has been running for years can be fragile. > Moving a cable that has been motionless for years can make it fail, and > it's somehow a given that these systems are never backed up. > Were that the case, could there be any risk running a 10.1 executable on such a system? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 20:23:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DAEEFCB for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net [194.109.24.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A62578A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net with ESMTP id jwN71q00Q07iGuj01wN8Ng; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:22:09 +0200 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BDEAE12445; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:22:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:22:07 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: andrew clarke , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) Message-ID: <20150623202207.GA41880@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Kukulies , andrew clarke , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <5587E158.2020702@physik.rwth-aachen.de> <20150622160929.GC92373@ozzmosis.com> <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <558911D3.4030109@physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:23:22 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 09:59:15AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Am 22.06.2015 um 18:09 schrieb andrew clarke: > > On Mon 2015-06-22 12:20:08 UTC+0200, Christoph Kukulies (kuku@physik.rw= th-aachen.de) wrote: > > > >> I'm running a somewhat come into age server under FreeBSD 5.1 at the > >> moment and I'm in need to update to php5. Trying to install php-5.0.0 > >> in ports results in an error message > >> > >> fetch: > >> http://www.t.ring.gr.jp/archives/net/www/php/distributions/php-5.0.0.t= ar.bz2: > >> Not Found > > You'll probably need to download php-5.0.0.tar.bz2 manually and move > > it to /usr/ports/distfiles/. >=20 > Although you may be right with regard to obsoleteness of 5.0.0 and my=20 > 5.1 version in general, > I'm wondering whether it would be possible to > run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). A dynamically linked version from 10.1 will not run; the major version of l= ibc and other system libraries has changed from 5.x. (Interestingly, a binary from 7.2 will still run on 10.1; the shared library versions haven't changed) A statically linked version might run, unless it relies on system calls that were added after 5.1. > At the moment I'm urgently in need to update an intranet forum (pbpBB3) to > a 3.1.5 version and this requires a newer (>=3D 5.3.3) version of php. Whatever you do, make a backup first. :-) FreeBSD 5.1 was released in 2003. So the hardware you're running it on can = be up to 12 years old. It's time to replace it before it dies on you at an inopportune moment. Get a new server and put 10.1 on it. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAABCAAGBQJVib/oAAoJEED21dyjijPgzMcP/0FOQumwZZ84jHTOgeLwie0k w+MYzYRPX187gdkOpCOa4mbJabK4UgujHXbFhtjvMvI1vYMAyANsMaWjN/8aVJzt uWZGbPoWZXGLy0+6KhaY8NB5zCFrKqy2BPLBnQ1y7GfuL/zgO6c+kgEo0rxzjcVO UU3d2ieD/Bdwf6jgxj9wou9Hw0Ugp1bEoLJA/W663cRETv8E7PohA6zsJbfgtwFx Iqm79HerqcLF36c35sIiuOUINiG0xikIlmNLGMZ6z3lBj2l9ZWOT5JB8mbupohL7 6DANShv/zVY1tuhHEAP9BYaUBVuQcSxFEg/kvkINPPhfMEB2IqgoYZN0hYuvZVz0 ROt4BFUVR5ZgdO0xdQApOyHQ5ZZgeD52RMM36b3kE08jiR0wJ0oMuXSvNvxntnbS eW3BQNoDj6CCXOc26+VXKTReTG4KSR+3fF1UhI6QfZqtznQi4X25FBIHwdFSnIwm 71Hwg2oXCvYWCOxn16/p/GESJa6ZG/Dl4cEtRLZLOYbp3lH8AQChoGNyazvFzJPV vh2V51krzdGOgaf2/qCfQPW6adOT/NTsYESnLah4SB9z8vtNg+76Kim1RwCrkX8b W89+80s1msBt+i7vUYovtJpvuQKB3M83orJ5+Y7pbmG+FLI25MrKYjybT4u8qAAA T43+tqTTNMKRkLW2/YD9 =//dq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 22:04:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B69077C5 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "neonpark.inter-sonic.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BB6EC7F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Intersonic AB Message-ID: <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:56:36 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation dvd References: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:04:47 -0000 On 2015-06-23 05:38, John Drake via freebsd-questions wrote: > For version 10.1, how do I install packages directly from the installation DVD? > > Sent from my iPhone If I'm not mistaken you need to learn pkg(8). I do not use packages myself but my guess is that you need to mount the DVD and then use "pkg add" from the proper directory on the mounted filesystem. The Handbook has a chapter on this, and assuming you've got an Internet connection it may be better to install from the online repository. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Cheers, //per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 22:09:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A76F184D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 395A4D52 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5NM9Cbw064155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:09:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5NM9Cu1064152; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:09:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:09:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Cary cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) In-Reply-To: <86oak6p8w9.fsf@bsdstb.Belkin> Message-ID: References: <86oak6p8w9.fsf@bsdstb.Belkin> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:09:12 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:09:15 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Cary wrote: > Warren Block writes: > >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >>> On 06/23/15 08:59, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>> Although you may be right with regard to obsoleteness of 5.0.0 and my >>>> 5.1 version in general, >>>> I'm wondering whether it would be possible to >>>> run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). >>> >>> 5.1 Release happened during a particularly difficult period for FreeBSD >>> development. As I recall, it was quite quickly superseded by 5.2 release >>> >>> Your quickest and most reliable way forward is to upgrade your FreeBSD >>> box to something supported. Given you're starting from such an old > > >> Agreed, except I would suggest a completely separate computer for the >> new install. Old stuff that has been running for years can be fragile. >> Moving a cable that has been motionless for years can make it fail, and >> it's somehow a given that these systems are never backed up. >> > > Were that the case, could there be any risk running a 10.1 executable > on such a system? I would be surprised if a 10.1 executable would run on a 5.1 system. But that misses the point. Do not try to run modern binaries on an ancient system. Set up a new 10.1 system, install new versions of the same software, and copy configuration and data files from the old one. Trying to update a 5.1 system in-place or run newer binaries on it is unlikely to work. If it does work, it's probably going to be shaky. If it doesn't work, trying to get it to work will almost certainly take more time than setting up a new 10.1 system and configuring it with modern versions of the same applications, then copying data and configuration. Look at it this way: trying to do anything with a FreeBSD 5.1 system is pretty much file recovery. Many, many things have changed since then. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 22:51:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4927A1B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com (mail-ig0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E254BCF for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igboe5 with SMTP id oe5so100984781igb.1 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:51:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b37Bent7pI997W2ahJTB+R6oKw4RIGG8NzP7PXn4PRc=; b=QCb1ANpOlhxVsEiB6FUAS3v96nJQshV8AjNLwLmR35yyU9EjjLRsDl9krDNQYoT3b4 AM1pN2zYxrsrdFYHp0tnJT74HLMKAJ/TJfEc0wjR2k2PEfnrYkxtiqaVDQ6Yv4DWswci bbwZYVRgF1qxPFCyKWhw0/yD/EOaunM6sCEyii0ZpohcUpQzH2UaqQT9IORkt86mfkoD X0tadLFRnyO8pbDn+QlHH3Vgk6DIXgHLwtgsoImN8mOSPcnDO9GrxDXBGNePoU7D049Y IV4X4QJNmm5q37C+/joimYz0QdVboPX/kNFE7ZtAg7Zptbm5NNJBD9jQs+JV2wrHxN0x TJbA== X-Received: by 10.107.128.72 with SMTP id b69mr31784073iod.84.1435099899926; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ij4sm729033igb.7.2015.06.23.15.51.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:51:37 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Users Subject: hard drive problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:51:40 -0000 does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 23 23:38:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27DEDBAA for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40BEE0C for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cary@sdf.org) Received: from [67.49.10.59] ([67.49.10.59:31762] helo=bsdstb) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 18/98-03253-DEDE9855; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:38:22 +0000 From: Cary To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) In-Reply-To: (message from Warren Block on Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:09:12 -0600 (MDT)) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:38:21 -0700 Message-ID: <86k2uuov0y.fsf@bsdstb.Belkin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:38:24 -0000 Warren Block writes: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Cary wrote: > >> Warren Block writes: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>>> On 06/23/15 08:59, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>>> I'm wondering whether it would be possible to >>>>> run a 10.1 executable under 5.1 (possible link it statically?). >>>> >>>> Your quickest and most reliable way forward is to upgrade your FreeBSD >>>> box to something supported. Given you're starting from such an old >> >> >>> Agreed, except I would suggest a completely separate computer for the >>> new install. Old stuff that has been running for years can be fragile. >>> Moving a cable that has been motionless for years can make it fail, and >>> it's somehow a given that these systems are never backed up. >>> >> >> Were that the case, could there be any risk running a 10.1 executable >> on such a system? > > I would be surprised if a 10.1 executable would run on a 5.1 system. > But that misses the point. Do not try to run modern binaries on an > ancient system. Set up a new 10.1 system, install new versions of the > same software, and copy configuration and data files from the old one. > Trying to update a 5.1 system in-place or run newer binaries on it is > unlikely to work. If it does work, it's probably going to be shaky. > If it doesn't work, trying to get it to work will almost certainly take > more time than setting up a new 10.1 system and configuring it with > modern versions of the same applications, then copying data and > configuration. > > Look at it this way: trying to do anything with a FreeBSD 5.1 system is > pretty much file recovery. Many, many things have changed since then. Yes, what you recommend is also what I would do. Upgrading is the OP's best option. Changes since 5.1 could be why he has not installed a recent version of FreeBSD. Copying over the old configuration he has been using may appear difficult also. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 24 02:18:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F099E128 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@gooch.io) Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca [64.68.201.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6CF9790 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@gooch.io) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A072E292 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:18:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout.easymail.ca X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.707 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL=0.692] Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (easymail-mailout.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t33COSAtjuLK for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.42.150] (d207-6-81-250.bchsia.telus.net [207.6.81.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC52EE239 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558A1354.7080006@gooch.io> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:17:56 -0700 From: Jesse Gooch Reply-To: jesse@gooch.io User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation dvd References: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:18:12 -0000 If I'm not mistaken I don't think the installation DVD actually contains any software other than base. It does include the ports tree, but I don't think it contains any distfiles. I would recommend just using portsnap or svn if you want to use ports rather than packages as the ports tree on the DVD can be rather old. The handbook page you linked is very good information. 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[75.168.190.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o9sm16418126ioe.35.2015.06.23.19.43.43 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Nick Shaw Cc: "freebsd-questions\@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD community member engaging in online harassment In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:43:42 -0500 Message-ID: <864mlx9675.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:43:46 -0000 Nick Shaw writes: > I have zero time for people like her who wish to defame innocent people Neither do I. Nor does any decent human being with better things to do with this short, precious life. This doesn't belong here, and some lone jackass on the Internet being a jackass on the Internet is inconsequential. Bringing this here does nothing but risk spreading this garbage from the dregs of Twitter to our nice, civil little haven. Keep petty squabbles unrelated to this community out of here, please. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 24 02:52:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3980E2E9 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jesse@gooch.io) Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca [64.68.201.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1EDB643 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jesse@gooch.io) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AEDE290 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:52:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout.easymail.ca X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.707 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL=0.692] Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (easymail-mailout.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hqu+Y3Gsbzh7 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.42.150] (d207-6-81-250.bchsia.telus.net [207.6.81.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F00FE28F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558A1B66.9050100@gooch.io> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:52:22 -0700 From: Jesse Gooch Reply-To: jesse@gooch.io User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation dvd References: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> <558A1354.7080006@gooch.io> In-Reply-To: <558A1354.7080006@gooch.io> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:52:32 -0000 Jesse Gooch Actually I think the DVD may contain some software. It's the CD that only contains base. Sorry for the bad info. On 6/23/2015 7:17 PM, Jesse Gooch wrote: > If I'm not mistaken I don't think the installation DVD actually contains > any software other than base. It does include the ports tree, but I > don't think it contains any distfiles. > > I would recommend just using portsnap or svn if you want to use ports > rather than packages as the ports tree on the DVD can be rather old. The > handbook page you linked is very good information. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 24 02:55:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E1F0361 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA60D752 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from puffyzz.attlocal.net ([24.116.197.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MS5QA-1ZVL3c1I4o-00T9yb for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:55:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:55:24 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD community member engaging in online harassment Message-ID: <20150624025523.GA11319@puffyzz.attlocal.net> References: <864mlx9675.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <864mlx9675.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5oZpquZoUgJPyrHb4t7i9FgTl+iXCx4ZqN/5bVRdC3KtCRQKTTK Y6IHZZaOT8BshOE4rEtX7M2mjrpYS3lfmrUl9P+NVtzE0AGkXuNbZRvT7XaTsRtUYgj/9ub pPMlSIQQcgd8GscQ+70E4/Cso+cD8BlYdCPs6xxcqnQjgoKpbU8Kn9169U2FnaoCWGDf4Mw hrPXJN+4Ai7qZDLtnTk/Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:B/k43ZKfR30=:sDMiqDf0keaV0L9nMJ5LUS r5q8NfVNlUGVoaWtMSMc86LzZuEUH7zexsJjjPzbxo2kgaZ674hdaRcxIHPvilOJM91bXTwer iWB9UWFNGyA6VrolB7330CP1kqqtZCFb1kx5ufAZN8ZFV4gWG43QLGAkHeUFiOsjyUGUcMLee hREtv43B4cUVj1yZYdUlEsB3uqMskKPoWMQA4Se0Hu3IUTm3K2kyXNMTXlVKpvEzdmjfjxkWp z3HcAiIDdqv5Va2vCwRt31JQ63sodWe/6G74nlcqAp4s5WQH9DAOYM0qHgSdJCxZ1ELH5tF6O C2xWbrqZtQMzdagtX8Zc4KPl2/aqkSTQARCxcAFMpvVLZIJlcEX3xbmu6WeA37i522bQrjtlJ 4xkvalAbFZYYansdkVjfd1IZWR1UpibSILkX2Y8Wd/pr1gE+AzsT0qKEvOc6EfCqFglhBUWDK b2xsoaj5V/HoqpjHa4NNohz4YEv+fuwxfDnB9NPzJ7vAjU5pL72QyCwD3fRYTuQzYojPNUkZS 8UbaNIIt/KznfW3W490BD6ZFY3x+thF2bTLQdrINI6eDv714JOw3Bcm5gyytG3Fxp3HJhwnZ+ lkan48cDa7aQH/i1WIOKfi6/Uy/gVr5FnkQd8w8hBW5IjHEo1fIcg5kiupxP9uW0yxNqWBx2r FOCTiM0dJBTfcQhu3H6X91SO6ePvbqKZwT86aOzfIk12APQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:55:44 -0000 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 09:43:42PM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > Nick Shaw writes: > > > I have zero time for people like her who wish to defame innocent people > > Neither do I. Nor does any decent human being with better things to do > with this short, precious life. This doesn't belong here, and some lone > jackass on the Internet being a jackass on the Internet is > inconsequential. > > Bringing this here does nothing but risk spreading this garbage from the > dregs of Twitter to our nice, civil little haven. Keep petty squabbles > unrelated to this community out of here, please. What might be relevant on this list is her claim to be a current FreeBSD committer.[1] A check of the developer's page, though, does not appear to list her as a dev.[2] [1]https://www.linkedin.com/in/freebsdgirl [2]https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/ staff-committers.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 24 03:04:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C50EE402 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@gooch.io) Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca [64.68.201.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89652FC0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@gooch.io) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2C6E25F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:04:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout.easymail.ca X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.707 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.707 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL=0.692] Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (easymail-mailout.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fa6Sv7jYiPRZ for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.42.150] (d207-6-81-250.bchsia.telus.net [207.6.81.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A72EE23D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558A1E40.8080406@gooch.io> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:04:32 -0700 From: Jesse Gooch Reply-To: jesse@gooch.io User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10.1-RELEASE-p12 broke sendmail. 10.1-RELEASE-p13 didn't fix sendmail. References: <55884952.8060005@mantis.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:04:41 -0000 I recommend reading /usr/src/UPDATING and any relevant Errata Notices and/or Security Advisories BEFORE updating your system so you don't get bit like this again. https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-15:08.sendmail.asc On 6/22/2015 11:28 AM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Chuck @ Mantis wrote: >> On 6/22/2015 12:17 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: >>> freebsd-update succeeded. I am now at 10.1-RELEASE-p13. But I still >>> have the same problem (sendmail reports DH key too small). I did not >>> reboot my machine (and it will be a pain for me to do so). Perhaps I >>> should try the workaround? Perhaps I must reboot. >> >> I've been dealing with this issue as well. >> >> cd /etc/mail/certs >> >> openssl dhparam -out dh.param 2048 >> >> service sendmail restart > > That worked, thank you. If anyone can give me a hint as to why the > upgrading to 10.1-RELEASE-p13 apparently did not do this, please let > me know. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 24 03:57:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68CCD6D8 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rbyrnes@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C8FF639 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rbyrnes@gmail.com) Received: by qkbp125 with SMTP id p125so15815466qkb.2 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:57:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Oy0aZnmV6bqbnXxpTEO57uASed6ANjN/1bFHEfHfVm4=; b=nJkbmAAnsdYQITNR7KEN9wCVyC3pWzUxJD/ZOPsm2qXMA80S02cgSW3g09T8CUJgYG uqZ18ICm1sipRN4RIvi6s5DLntqcK32fXfQ50jdiQfWBGhOrlWhsNhZ85SXycpFIiHoN rhs2/xKM4GkXsTVyGM8+cjzyf//0wh6qf0U2D9Vh5tiPoYwMi8TL1ULZc8f4e/Ub0d+4 +84OJyBW30WjSXUnqNjOefiSVSuhSXj0QNK0YyBEpX3FXJJ1sSGWetpWjWoAwghXSE3Z LZUpe0YPySiyqn5ZNEsmJ/BumDDxjUlqouczFPKUrshELoj4U2zQBRLgvuMPJjbh8x87 KAFw== X-Received: by 10.140.108.6 with SMTP id i6mr48413983qgf.73.1435118250274; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:57:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.86.80 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:57:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150624025523.GA11319@puffyzz.attlocal.net> References: <864mlx9675.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624025523.GA11319@puffyzz.attlocal.net> From: Rob Byrnes Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:57:10 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD community member engaging in online harassment To: Dutch Ingraham Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:57:32 -0000 Whether she is or isn't, that's a matter for core@, not the questions mailing list. On 24 June 2015 at 12:55, Dutch Ingraham wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 09:43:42PM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > > > Nick Shaw writes: > > > > > I have zero time for people like her who wish to defame innocent people > > > > Neither do I. Nor does any decent human being with better things to do > > with this short, precious life. This doesn't belong here, and some lone > > jackass on the Internet being a jackass on the Internet is > > inconsequential. > > > > Bringing this here does nothing but risk spreading this garbage from the > > dregs of Twitter to our nice, civil little haven. Keep petty squabbles > > unrelated to this community out of here, please. > > What might be relevant on this list is her claim to be a current FreeBSD > committer.[1] A check of the developer's page, though, does not appear > to list her as a dev.[2] > > [1]https://www.linkedin.com/in/freebsdgirl > [2]https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/ > staff-committers.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Idiot : A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. (Ambrose Bierce - The Devils Dictionary) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 24 04:03:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E467577D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A71259C2 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01ACE3CED1; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:03:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5O43H5h004010; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:03:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:03:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jesse@gooch.io Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation dvd Message-Id: <20150624060317.52a5ea96.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <558A1B66.9050100@gooch.io> References: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> <558A1354.7080006@gooch.io> <558A1B66.9050100@gooch.io> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:03:22 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:52:22 -0700, Jesse Gooch wrote: > Actually I think the DVD may contain some software. It's the CD that > only contains base. Sorry for the bad info. The installation CD just contains a very narrow set of additional applications. It's basically the OS parts and assorted software. The main purpose of this media is to get the OS running, setup network connection, and start installing via Internet. The DVD contains more software as precompiled packages, to be installed with pkg. Of course that software has the versions that have been "freezed" prior to RELEASE. If you need something more recent, having Internet directly available for updates (or at least a machine to fetch binary packages for further transfer and installation) is recommended. The distfiles (sources for the ports collection) are usually fetched from Internet as well, so if you're going to build from source, Internet is what you need. If that is _not_ an option, just mount the installation DVD and use pkg to install the software you need by pointing at the correct package location. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 24 04:10:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5314A868 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EEDECE1 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-100.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5O4AjhN002880 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:10:46 -0500 Message-ID: <558A2DC5.8040401@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:17:00 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation dvd References: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> <558A1354.7080006@gooch.io> <558A1B66.9050100@gooch.io> <20150624060317.52a5ea96.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150624060317.52a5ea96.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:10:54 -0000 On 06/23/15 23:09, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:52:22 -0700, Jesse Gooch wrote: >> Actually I think the DVD may contain some software. It's the CD that >> only contains base. Sorry for the bad info. > The installation CD just contains a very narrow set of additional > applications. It's basically the OS parts and assorted software. > The main purpose of this media is to get the OS running, setup > network connection, and start installing via Internet. > > The DVD contains more software as precompiled packages, to be > installed with pkg. Of course that software has the versions > that have been "freezed" prior to RELEASE. If you need something "frozen" (sorry, couldn't resist :-) ) > more recent, having Internet directly available for updates (or > at least a machine to fetch binary packages for further transfer > and installation) is recommended. The distfiles (sources for the > ports collection) are usually fetched from Internet as well, so > if you're going to build from source, Internet is what you need. > > If that is _not_ an option, just mount the installation DVD and > use pkg to install the software you need by pointing at the correct > package location. > > > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 06:37:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AAE141E999 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@smtp1.creatunewsletter.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6C613E2 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@smtp1.creatunewsletter.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7BAE9141E998; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614B4141E997 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@smtp1.creatunewsletter.com) Received: from smtp1.creatunewsletter.com (smtp1.creatunewsletter.com [69.61.11.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE4513E0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce@smtp1.creatunewsletter.com) Received: from localhost (smtp1 [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.creatunewsletter.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C9913C0A0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:37:58 -0300 (ART) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 03:37:58 -0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Envios de News Reply-to: Envios de News Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Queres_vender_m=E1s!!!_Tenemos_la_Soluci=F3n?= Message-ID: <03dbc89e434898bdab26d5b93850d761@localhost> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer 5.1 (phpmailer.sourceforge.net) Msg-KP: MTIyMjM4MDU2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:37:59 -0000 NO RESPONDA ESTE MAIL Captar Nuevos Clientes??? 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From: Chris Stankevitz To: jesse@gooch.io Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:32:07 -0000 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Jesse Gooch wrote: > I recommend reading /usr/src/UPDATING and any relevant Errata Notices > and/or Security Advisories BEFORE updating your system so you don't get > bit like this again. > > https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-15:08.sendmail.asc Hi Jesse, The whole point of my OP was to say that I read the errata. I was surprised that the update did not fix the problem. I tried the "workaround" (why I need to "work around" it if there was an update is not clear) but as I followed the steps I got stumped. Then I gave specific examples of where I got stumped following the errata. Why is it that I don't get it, but everyone else does? I'm certain the documentation is good. I have a good command of the english language. Nevertheless I don't get it... Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 05:32:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188A2141E5D2 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 715D91212 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-100.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5O4P2Rd006277 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:25:03 -0500 Message-ID: <558A311E.5080401@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:31:17 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation dvd References: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> <558A1354.7080006@gooch.io> <558A1B66.9050100@gooch.io> <20150624060317.52a5ea96.freebsd@edvax.de> <558A2DC5.8040401@hiwaay.net> <20150624062258.333244de.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150624062258.333244de.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:32:07 -0000 On 06/23/15 23:29, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:17:00 -0453, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 06/23/15 23:09, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:52:22 -0700, Jesse Gooch wrote: >>>> Actually I think the DVD may contain some software. It's the CD that >>>> only contains base. Sorry for the bad info. >>> The installation CD just contains a very narrow set of additional >>> applications. It's basically the OS parts and assorted software. >>> The main purpose of this media is to get the OS running, setup >>> network connection, and start installing via Internet. >>> >>> The DVD contains more software as precompiled packages, to be >>> installed with pkg. Of course that software has the versions >>> that have been "freezed" prior to RELEASE. If you need something >> "frozen" (sorry, couldn't resist :-) ) > Hey, that's artistic newspeak freedom! :-) > > being freezed: from "freeze" (as in "code freeze"): code in > the state of being closed to any further alteration; usually > used with quotation marks > > consult ns dict 10 ed p 404 > :-) I stand duly spanked :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 05:32:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@nevdull.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AEE141E5B0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A359111CF for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 383293CE90; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:22:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5O4MwDr004720; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:22:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:22:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation dvd Message-Id: <20150624062258.333244de.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <558A2DC5.8040401@hiwaay.net> References: <6213A983-300C-4175-A324-ACF91D210BA0@yahoo.com> <5589D614.8060702@intersonic.se> <558A1354.7080006@gooch.io> <558A1B66.9050100@gooch.io> <20150624060317.52a5ea96.freebsd@edvax.de> <558A2DC5.8040401@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:32:07 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 23:17:00 -0453, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 06/23/15 23:09, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:52:22 -0700, Jesse Gooch wrote: > >> Actually I think the DVD may contain some software. It's the CD that > >> only contains base. Sorry for the bad info. > > The installation CD just contains a very narrow set of additional > > applications. It's basically the OS parts and assorted software. > > The main purpose of this media is to get the OS running, setup > > network connection, and start installing via Internet. > > > > The DVD contains more software as precompiled packages, to be > > installed with pkg. Of course that software has the versions > > that have been "freezed" prior to RELEASE. If you need something > > "frozen" (sorry, couldn't resist :-) ) Hey, that's artistic newspeak freedom! :-) being freezed: from "freeze" (as in "code freeze"): code in the state of being closed to any further alteration; usually used with quotation marks consult ns dict 10 ed p 404 :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 09:10:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5E9915449 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 890201628 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t5O9AOZu036772 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:10:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t5O9AOZu036772 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t5O9AOZu036772; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <558A73F7.6020809@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:10:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10.1-RELEASE-p12 broke sendmail. 10.1-RELEASE-p13 didn't fix sendmail. References: <55884952.8060005@mantis.biz> <558A1E40.8080406@gooch.io> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0orSUGqXKEhCIIQ2lx33JH8CG5KfqBT04" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:10:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --0orSUGqXKEhCIIQ2lx33JH8CG5KfqBT04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/24/15 06:00, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Jesse Gooch wrote: >> I recommend reading /usr/src/UPDATING and any relevant Errata Notices >> and/or Security Advisories BEFORE updating your system so you don't ge= t >> bit like this again. >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-15:08.sendmail.= asc >=20 > Hi Jesse, >=20 > The whole point of my OP was to say that I read the errata. I was > surprised that the update did not fix the problem. I tried the > "workaround" (why I need to "work around" it if there was an update is > not clear) but as I followed the steps I got stumped. Then I gave > specific examples of where I got stumped following the errata. >=20 > Why is it that I don't get it, but everyone else does? I'm certain > the documentation is good. I have a good command of the english > language. Nevertheless I don't get it... Hi, Chris, You are correct -- the OS update didn't fix the problem. FreeBSD Security Advisories and Errata Notices are usually very reliable in terms of accurately describing how to solve the problems they address, but they aren't infallible. This was a rare case where things went pear-shaped. However, the work-around given in the errata notice was in fact the missing piece that did solve the problem. Or at least, the core of the given instructions was. Now, the EN was written by Greg Shapiro, who is the maintainer for sendmail in the FreeBSD base system. He explains here how things went wrong: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2015-June/082547.html but essentially he was confused by an update to the sendmail standard config and startup scripts that had added autogeneration of TLS certificates but not all the other parameters that could be used with TLS. I think this led to the work-around instructions being overly complicated. As you saw, it could be condensed down to: openssl dhparam -out /etc/mail/certs/dh.param 2048 service sendmail restart I could work that out for myself from what was written in the errata notice, but that's because I've been dealing with sendmail config in FreeBSD for years. I think that summary, or commands pretty much like them, got posted to various mailing lists fairly soon after the EN came o= ut. There will probably be a revision to the EN fairly soon. It will likely be released as a bundle with other SA's or EN's when those are ready to go, to prevent excessive churn for people tracking release branches. 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That means a new computer. There are adapters, IDE <-> SATA and USB -> IDE, to transfer data from old IDE hard drives to a newer computer that has SATA and no IDE on motherboard. Also possibly NFS. Other changes are MBR -> GPT and old static device nodes with MAKEDEV (such as NetBSD and OpenBSD still have) to devfs. I was thinking about the possibility of building/upgrading the base FreeBSD from source by steps, such as 5.1 -> final 6-stable -> final 8-stable -> 10.1 or possibly FreeBSD-current. Or maybe shorter steps? Might be possible, but would likely be easier to download 10.1 or a snapshot of 10.1-STABLE or 11-current and install that. Use bsdinstall? In any case the ports would need to be rebuilt on new system. 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[75.168.190.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p196sm17335310iop.15.2015.06.24.06.57.21 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:57:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: FreeBSD Users Subject: Re: hard drive problem In-reply-to: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:57:20 -0500 Message-ID: <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:57:25 -0000 jd1008 writes: > does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in > a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the password, the drive's a brick. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 15:41:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017A9915882 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D409D11C1 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 04B42CB8C94; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <46363.128.135.70.2.1435160477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: hard drive problem From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: kpneal@pobox.com Cc: "Brandon J. Wandersee" , "FreeBSD Users" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:41:25 -0000 On Wed, June 24, 2015 10:36 am, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:57:20AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> >> jd1008 writes: >> >> > does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >> > a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? >> >> "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A >> "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the >> first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the >> password, the drive's a brick. > > My guess is that you can tell the drive to use a new password, but the > contents of the drive are lost. That's assuming a firmware-level > encryption. > > BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? It may be an enclosure with two 1TB 2.5" drives either concatenated, or RAID0 thus presenting itself as 2 TB. Just a wild guess. Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 15:52:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B399160D7 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EABC27B6 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-124.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5OFqYrX013471 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:52:35 -0500 Message-ID: <558AD242.8070009@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:58:49 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Users Subject: Re: hard drive problem References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:52:38 -0000 On 06/24/15 10:42, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:57:20AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> jd1008 writes: >> >>> does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >>> a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? >> "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A >> "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the >> first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the >> password, the drive's a brick. > My guess is that you can tell the drive to use a new password, but the > contents of the drive are lost. That's assuming a firmware-level > encryption. > > BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? Yup, see: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=380&N=100007605%20600358494&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&OEMMark=0,N,1 -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 16:07:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46022916791 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1281B117A for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [88.151.27.41] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7n1V-000475-Ps for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:55:37 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7n1W-0001HF-Qi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:55:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:55:37 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem Message-Id: <20150624165537.f3e7cdc7e18ce42107c56ec3@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 24227@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:07:26 -0000 On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:36:43 -0400 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? Seagate STDA4000200 is a 4TB 2.5" external drive (possibly containing two drives), there are at least three 2TB 2.5" internal drives on the market Samsung M9T and Toshiba MQ01ABB200, Western Digital WD20NPVX. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 16:09:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158D49167C4 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua@joshualokken.com) Received: from fusor.joshualokken.com (fusor.joshualokken.com [192.223.25.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F40531222 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua@joshualokken.com) Received: from 0019cb2ce9ff.click-network.com ([131.191.18.172] helo=localhost) by fusor.joshualokken.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7nF6-0006uX-52 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:09:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:10:14 -0700 From: Joshua Lokken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem Message-ID: <20150624161014.GC29635@satellite.workgroup.local> References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:09:41 -0000 --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jun/23 04:51PM, jd1008 wrote: > does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in > a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? Unfortunately, I know of only Windoze tools to do this: hddunlock.com Or you can try WD's tool, WD Security. --=20 Joshua --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCgAGBQJVitZmAAoJEJuCE7pKYjPNjfEH/RU1mU9BUbNnmfI+t+iVPTpK D8C6eTvC+DmTH1qAFDA8oYzGfmHDALI1RBrsTk4l8aWYk+fxcOcWQ8Ct8oNQ3Yuu oUzHImw0qR3S+6h+dg7Y0GGwjxDQ3iybNRvuXnlcLKc6KZUyeubUyMa9gH5NfPIw M3S7TLH/rOcvEdLKJ5tittdjnGsaNSonyXLuPpye+G+44qOhp88twYFTzQHhWqFb Ggmxjz0SDNdWuweoXSvklQu91YL44UXlOEWkbbxu+2hbUmhpp5TWxWFpK5rNxqmL IH4e+GZwhFHfpNWsfHlhpBhhNfa6uXPgd7gBIuebsvj8P1zxM7OS+gEvKTyDyEU= =v6iD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fig2xvG2VGoz8o/s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 16:56:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4757A9151CE for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from newhank6@ymail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247E514CC for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from newhank6@ymail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 241449151CD; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236F19151CC for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from newhank6@ymail.com) Received: from nm50-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm50-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.221]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D11A714CB for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from newhank6@ymail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1435164813; bh=SN+CpsROd6ZWKGcuWk+J8xaupKEIVQnEZkmhMMVHRFQ=; h=From:To:Reply-To:Date:Subject:From:Subject; b=Ncuh1Bh1ZFZmkrtjNGISqW/lyhLp8iRug9PyyO9kYYt2QKD8gwcyG7fDwzlGd3TWllqUMs6+5yx/yrDE+p+PH7N1IJDybnF7KBDfLKKKwRMAgJNobYADp9ZNRXxbwrKndV4JGkHl7vwgGNbeXqbuFxkVSgmbWxhuOuAbVSuFU6JZsH6NnfoTKCVF40T2Z5pUF6QXEp4z7YgEpObn2xRmZQfBFD3jwk94FbKW3G09pupjbj2Juan4+MZhf838+g5julnLjtQvnPIiJ+oUw9+ZMlY4IcODVQ8yikRSlC+lTZFkXhz7lVLisJ+voNgF+JE+dZaJJPddosrTL64f8f4AOg== Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm50.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2015 16:53:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.198] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2015 16:53:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp207.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2015 16:53:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 554381.26582.bm@smtp207.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: D4tRWOsVM1n6FkY58S9kt34Nxx9Rm_Th_69mJpwa4UVf8AI FT6_u3UhZuNSw_cckgxGg24wWlgT7Sty.RnU6XBycCouwylFXhfz5SgsygaM K5UnPg0seLzvYrevESu4B2J7ouBHf3lywvSFjL4r55MKMxzyh5HSxF0xPp0K mSds6CLcxk9nVh6rZuIbOseUBioitL_F6CfKaLL4PSqcT90JKKCyxrZ4nnst TlSNnppTp.IfzF6NCsQSd8Sr3U8xQ.gsLtacZdZbgNnczNIMXVlB_HTLXG.M 1RXTQvvt2bjLnS6BVKl5qHgegSyasq.gv5TR5JSjpxH2nyTwKSDWjTD_vo41 Y8Q5JVxJ5vd_UTALEacu5X6Y2UiSNAq_HdM_LplUOLLpDid_NB0ZtzLqqheK AjmCy8_1giryanEnROgh5GxSn4_bvmfVAhmRwIRjPUrVE_.42KxWi.JsBux. 9AEfWqynpPlRhYmz1WCy_fOeGZ8sVzd7gQVJPmQntd2q_1zXhE06_6Tm5GCL 1g8DkqExnz2slk9Ow6pU7m.7UTdxidtHHjnsiqt2J.JJtf88zC0j2TQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 1d4F1GuswBApPsEMkdC2gzbYmfDLKWBSSitm9DhynQ-- From: "Henri" To: "questions@freebsd.org" Reply-To: hgachon@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:52:20 -0400 Subject: Hi! i am online now - for all your graphic needs. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:56:00 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 17:15:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57009915800 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E844C152A; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@gmail.com) Received: by laka10 with SMTP id a10so30151920lak.0; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Qs41f7fsMEGsBkH2M6H7yTZ80O0OAmLVToqHqLThniU=; b=YT6ekrdMAUD9dRGmHlK7i98WAHrJPFyEDZIC0kaqsvcXMqdOG7PnTvTK1oltufpAf5 Dw4XQMfAuKgnvduH3C8YyhaVfTdDPDokbcvA9mbfFQSVxr3LeqdYA/EHXVc9z/vr4mJb EIuphFbmYTf9SP6Gv02SEu9KoZVAYihfrWz2q0/sKKRZA08uIKoIAlBTzYx+xItX9acH NdlT8Y+fEIyBfxsqx7rX23K4e74ed4tfCwtSWeAhn1zYWAhv6WUQSsqdfBZ1vOB3AC9l 1rQm3oJx5cqRhwyhkbdkxXgeBCo3i7UwYQYbbWPaLwwZhLFLqIF89i9b+m2hzU+jd9u4 sj2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.219.70 with SMTP id pm6mr40139956lbc.41.1435166103148; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.42.146 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <558A73F7.6020809@freebsd.org> References: <55884952.8060005@mantis.biz> <558A1E40.8080406@gooch.io> <558A73F7.6020809@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:15:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 10.1-RELEASE-p12 broke sendmail. 10.1-RELEASE-p13 didn't fix sendmail. From: Chris Stankevitz To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:15:05 -0000 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > He explains here how things went > wrong: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2015-June/082547.html Matthew, Thank you. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the "root cause" understanding. I can't stand "while(broken) try_random_fix_from_internet()". It sounds like I should be reading freebsd-stable. Thanks again, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 17:52:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5768B9160A9 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com (mail-ie0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 225311168 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iecvh10 with SMTP id vh10so38415543iec.3 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iBoQ4pVbcUAGPJaLv8efpR39rgwoND5ZeTlmbKbtzF8=; b=NoimsoHf4OYeAb5wIkoe8AR0Rr+nK2k3dC24VPJFWE31LXp5MlPKIK0B5kcJIddCUK SNuFRNg/0kyT62QJYQ6nCKevJNifqCFYwGmAl88j7zJW3Br6OfXZvLtp7Ds+1FuBb9/L mJqD3G8ugTNPHB2uDHZcr8iAkVJGWpWwj/wGj3HwcCxB7qNOMKTg5zsMfjZl7a1VKK+0 VoJUsgiurdYSsVjinxcheZvNMassQSergCkQmwrChPl/EqXu0C5FGNSTdpvR7HVJPPji JkQn4JL4/WDSuasISuRDaB6PF0UIm09XU51Gcj2c6eTq+PLjCyoCoTkzs4btZDw4Gwul KhIw== X-Received: by 10.42.90.138 with SMTP id k10mr16107403icm.86.1435168352456; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k16sm1480589igf.19.2015.06.24.10.52.31 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558AEE5E.2040906@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:52:30 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> In-Reply-To: <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:52:33 -0000 On 06/24/2015 07:57 AM, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > jd1008 writes: > >> does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >> a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? > "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A > "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the > first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the > password, the drive's a brick. > It is not for encryption. It is used only to allow running the built-in secure erase function. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 17:57:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AD791611B for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3F171244 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igblr2 with SMTP id lr2so39142513igb.0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F+24Kcu383GIDyqZksp3FToX3DwIbZqGv1Y5llCcD68=; b=xQ3WgxRzF+odQDadHokrtKXuho74Rpi0a74U2xcvPezW62x2Euzc03HxHcRZ8xi3v5 brIlZ1Vn2TkC3DN9OChIEIrTtooxC5j0dgdOIr6vqHvSHJ9fmfre0CY1xSbu3smF2s3a LJBxPfmQCVmFRsYE5u5fEKKesu1HZqO5+idTkfP26Io971i93HJ5zTGcsWQY4Gw6iBwq Fx7rSycnfD3YRDyy7he7DMA5T9vxSl7rxJ2OgoZrEzBZPocCrA2dMR0rduuRrlNzHT70 hRWKAbfnA+J0YBdh4rJ3QooJRQimWlUEI+8eCNxiI7ObkPW0h1lpN4VCZMRWTFz8FrYo 26lQ== X-Received: by 10.107.163.146 with SMTP id m140mr55001771ioe.85.1435168626313; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qs10sm1494122igb.14.2015.06.24.10.57.05 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558AEF70.50501@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:57:04 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:57:07 -0000 On 06/24/2015 09:36 AM, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:57:20AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> jd1008 writes: >> >>> does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >>> a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? >> "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A >> "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the >> first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the >> password, the drive's a brick. > My guess is that you can tell the drive to use a new password, but the > contents of the drive are lost. That's assuming a firmware-level > encryption. > > BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? Of course there are. In fact, Seagate has a 4TB 2.5" external drive, selling anywhere from 200 to 600 bucks. They are available on Ebay. The password is not for encryption, and the drive is not Self Encrypting Drive. The pAssWord is only for permitting the secure erase function and for changing other drive parameters. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 18:00:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE3791617E for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 334D915F4 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igblr2 with SMTP id lr2so80876429igb.0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XNLfUNTHZNKq/LYvKth8Z9yiZyiP0TJiFyStDhuY1/s=; b=ZD8ltQC2nmN19pK1g1egUmEJtVGENN0Kjqt7MCV8X5If8z981c9+uoC97YnkWbBKn/ tS3CKwAx0wp/y9vhQle99RgBv7zl33ig9aH+v9ZUucQ5+OpjiJPo3CMmmo9/TPoxb+Am GdpaC1DDv01tb0FwwYGhpw/OZX+nt1XM2U+vW01m/PbY0AqgJAck8dQ+KOCahgmwuyrJ oOgCKV2Wq0964XVgPELSgjNWnN4F718sGAdm4PsyfKgzYmLQl1f7FgCk90397cyUzeNp DlqDROoJdOCQOwJFEl8wo9pRkIejj05dfNwNHb1RrNTxhNoCKH0BLCEQMAYXekhBl/Yz G0cw== X-Received: by 10.42.119.76 with SMTP id a12mr19422636icr.83.1435168843588; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a82sm17772635ioe.22.2015.06.24.11.00.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558AF04A.8090206@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:00:42 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> <46363.128.135.70.2.1435160477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <46363.128.135.70.2.1435160477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:00:44 -0000 On 06/24/2015 09:41 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Wed, June 24, 2015 10:36 am, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:57:20AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>> jd1008 writes: >>> >>>> does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >>>> a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? >>> "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A >>> "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the >>> first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the >>> password, the drive's a brick. >> My guess is that you can tell the drive to use a new password, but the >> contents of the drive are lost. That's assuming a firmware-level >> encryption. >> >> BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? > It may be an enclosure with two 1TB 2.5" drives either concatenated, or > RAID0 thus presenting itself as 2 TB. Just a wild guess. > > Valeri This one is actually a 4 platter drive, thus rather thick (15mm). Goodby to 7.5mm 2.5" drives. Areal density has not reached the quantum level yet :) But from the technologists I know who are and have worked at HD companies, I hear that mechanical drives are totally on the way out as the the RAM and FLASH electronics get every tinier and faster, and much more reliable and long lasting. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 18:04:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57348916296 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x233.google.com (mail-ie0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 221331AF3 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iecvh10 with SMTP id vh10so38639761iec.3 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:04:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HulfvzYAPPB6+IRUUuXWMbFTEL4k/ClsvHRJj/yp0aU=; b=XoHKsQ0mBPr5virose94NDvOG4DNRO11eddmjs3i2scqkfIutC/9KTSB/qUrsxrPeD DHxjwZWs4JUdV52PwPThPrWwcvuIKfLfgeZuRlUNNGLkqGwdCB+YoG0z7deIk+zzm4kI 2HcDVXSYU5MiOK6ZkHcLtDkZm8O12jO/4yohjsxq8qPsmOjlnTKQF8rPU/W6aNe1SHYI mI4HqPLjn//v+a6fHSDoYgonNkIvl+57xP8GZhrIf9ZnnJ/UdSXoa54tDJ5ti1fYNuJT fhhPG5KT+luHIZCHZpn5qIp+pWY6jGfGhZ1/bWczsqULQ6GI75eYTNnZ9y/eNEPX2AWV jY9w== X-Received: by 10.42.30.208 with SMTP id w16mr39090692icc.88.1435169074520; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b74sm17774320ioe.6.2015.06.24.11.04.33 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558AF130.3060705@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:04:32 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <20150624161014.GC29635@satellite.workgroup.local> In-Reply-To: <20150624161014.GC29635@satellite.workgroup.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:04:35 -0000 On 06/24/2015 10:10 AM, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Jun/23 04:51PM, jd1008 wrote: >> does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >> a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? > Unfortunately, I know of only Windoze tools to do this: > > hddunlock.com > > Or you can try WD's tool, WD Security. > > hddunlock unfortunately does not supprt the drive model at hand and is expensive - not worth buying :) As I said in another reply, drives are getting cheaper and cheaper per terabyte. Actually it is the smaller legacy drives that are now rising in price because they are no longer manufactured, and many laptop owners' computers cannot host the new larger capacity drives. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 18:12:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F36491642F for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D96A1ED2 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 3FC65CB8C9D; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <34851.128.135.70.2.1435169522.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <558AF04A.8090206@gmail.com> References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> <46363.128.135.70.2.1435160477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <558AF04A.8090206@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: hard drive problem From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:12:03 -0000 On Wed, June 24, 2015 1:00 pm, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 06/24/2015 09:41 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Wed, June 24, 2015 10:36 am, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:57:20AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>>> jd1008 writes: >>>> >>>>> does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >>>>> a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? >>>> "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A >>>> "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the >>>> first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the >>>> password, the drive's a brick. >>> My guess is that you can tell the drive to use a new password, but the >>> contents of the drive are lost. That's assuming a firmware-level >>> encryption. >>> >>> BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? >> It may be an enclosure with two 1TB 2.5" drives either concatenated, or >> RAID0 thus presenting itself as 2 TB. Just a wild guess. >> >> Valeri > This one is actually a 4 platter drive, thus rather thick (15mm). > Goodby to 7.5mm 2.5" drives. Areal density has not reached the > quantum level yet :) Cool note! With magnetic domains in will not be quantum level though: it will be at least about a hundred of individual atoms involved into each individual magnetic domain. Bu I really like your comment! Oh, boy, I seemed to overestimate macroscopicity of physics here (IBM managed it on 12 atoms...): http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/smarter_computing/article/atomic_scale_memory.html > But from the technologists I know who are > and have worked at HD companies, I hear that mechanical drives > are totally on the way out as the the RAM and FLASH electronics > get every tinier and faster, and much more reliable and long lasting. > Holography, one might think, could be most dense way of packing information (of what we know today). Thanks for your brilliant comment! It made my day! Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 18:19:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198979164FB for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22b.google.com (mail-ig0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D638F107D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igblr2 with SMTP id lr2so39569745igb.0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qrB4Spq/a+X4n3Hx7Pt0IjuHzYhSV+326IgHz4ZrSvY=; b=FFzOHO5h0erIO0sLX/jrzCR7BVhVN8e5li5TAGuLaEToQNh8U/spCzJ/FbuR4Oo5L9 pLsNnnZdhSXPdA+jIAAXvg1EfuIpi1ppDj+Rm4OwFkL3/+MgG3yn9yHQjW+yK7lWIDHT uGFBLf5Rn53iiflIDhGpPyIYOyN3+vJ9+71BLDCv1IciBW16dtVsFHcttsAN9B+0QyKn 0ZFXiYv+csHl1fEMUBL3Zw/zDxyKKJUaeRUnnzG7Nxsq94fiT/f2tJNBbiLi3BvDx9BO 48JIgQEeF5g/38JSN2u5alnVHb2gi1Pxo7n6mXNi1ZFVWlYKsTeNfTzrXOyOoR7AfPkk K5CQ== X-Received: by 10.42.170.74 with SMTP id e10mr37954415icz.71.1435169970248; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o200sm17831444ioo.43.2015.06.24.11.19.29 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558AF4B0.6030209@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:19:28 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> <46363.128.135.70.2.1435160477.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <558AF04A.8090206@gmail.com> <34851.128.135.70.2.1435169522.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <34851.128.135.70.2.1435169522.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:19:31 -0000 On 06/24/2015 12:12 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Wed, June 24, 2015 1:00 pm, jd1008 wrote: >> >> On 06/24/2015 09:41 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> On Wed, June 24, 2015 10:36 am, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:57:20AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >>>>> jd1008 writes: >>>>> >>>>>> does anyone have a way to unlock the master pword in >>>>>> a recent WD 2TB 2.5" drive? >>>>> "Master pword?" Is this a firmware-level encrypted drive? If so, no. A >>>>> "reset" feature would defeat the purpose of having encryption in the >>>>> first place. If the drive is self-encrypting you don't know the >>>>> password, the drive's a brick. >>>> My guess is that you can tell the drive to use a new password, but the >>>> contents of the drive are lost. That's assuming a firmware-level >>>> encryption. >>>> >>>> BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? >>> It may be an enclosure with two 1TB 2.5" drives either concatenated, or >>> RAID0 thus presenting itself as 2 TB. Just a wild guess. >>> >>> Valeri >> This one is actually a 4 platter drive, thus rather thick (15mm). >> Goodby to 7.5mm 2.5" drives. Areal density has not reached the >> quantum level yet :) > Cool note! With magnetic domains in will not be quantum level though: it > will be at least about a hundred of individual atoms involved into each > individual magnetic domain. Bu I really like your comment! > > Oh, boy, I seemed to overestimate macroscopicity of physics here (IBM > managed it on 12 atoms...): > > http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/smarter_computing/article/atomic_scale_memory.html > >> But from the technologists I know who are >> and have worked at HD companies, I hear that mechanical drives >> are totally on the way out as the the RAM and FLASH electronics >> get every tinier and faster, and much more reliable and long lasting. >> > Holography, one might think, could be most dense way of packing > information (of what we know today). > > Thanks for your brilliant comment! It made my day! > > Valeri > Back in the 80's, scientists at the Univerwsity of California, Irvine created a cube made of a polymer that could be encoded 3 dimmentionally by lasers, with promise of holding tens of exabytes of data. A japanese company (do not recall the name), bought the rights and patents for it. I have not heard about that invention again since that time. Re: speed of electronics: The absolute speed limit of electronics is the speed at which an electron will jump from one shell to the next. We are so so far from that, I do not think that it is achievable. The circuits themselves are not at the level of one atom size, even if you consider the largest, non-radioactive atom. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 20:56:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2605691602F for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFB9A148D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-224.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5OKunuR023512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:03:04 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:56:52 -0000 xfce-4.12_1, FreeBSD 9.3R-p13 ? WHen I right click on the tool bar, I get only a (very) limited list of things to activate. TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 21:04:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C139161E9 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuck@mantis.biz) Received: from zip.c7hosting.com (zip.c7hosting.com [96.47.41.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71DF319C9 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuck@mantis.biz) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mantis.biz; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=eZdIWXiWqcnpIM8+nb/D4x0z9Oe5tXu2OXj3VxV8Luo=; b=PDRwYF6Sbhk+vDLicEr2078ljvSJi+r/IBWSeCxrl2FTrfpNh/Q9k0/DCmX3wZl8N//Ht8uKcOKEjXhBqK3q/ZUu+5HEg+LxVGBPsjrpuKuZjpAlitpRcTx/SWYZFgpy; Received: from [69.158.105.20] (port=50330 helo=[192.168.2.13]) by zip.c7hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7rqd-00069Z-4N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:04:43 -0400 Message-ID: <558B1B6D.4000303@mantis.biz> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:04:45 -0400 From: "Chuck @ Mantis" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: binary upgrades and /usr/src/UPDATING Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zip.c7hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mantis.biz X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: zip.c7hosting.com: authenticated_id: chuck@mantis.biz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:04:49 -0000 In past versions of BSD I've complied my own updates from source but now that I've started using the binary upgrade 'freebsd-update' where can I read /usr/src/UPDATING before updating things? I used to do it after a cvs/svn update From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 22:03:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4659891698B for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B11C918FF for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local ([192.168.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t5OM3Nhq051266 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:03:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t5OM3Nhq051266 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t5OM3Nhq051266; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host [192.168.100.2] claimed to be liminal.local Message-ID: <558B2925.2060408@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:03:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrades and /usr/src/UPDATING References: <558B1B6D.4000303@mantis.biz> In-Reply-To: <558B1B6D.4000303@mantis.biz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wj3KMH9pJKdcIXxr2rN8mjvTV9W0CE52l" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:03:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --wj3KMH9pJKdcIXxr2rN8mjvTV9W0CE52l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/06/2015 22:04, Chuck @ Mantis wrote: > In past versions of BSD I've complied my own updates from source but no= w > that I've started using the binary upgrade 'freebsd-update' where can I= > read /usr/src/UPDATING before updating things? I used to do it after a > cvs/svn update Here: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/10.1/UPDATING?view=3Dlog Obviusly, adjust the path if you're tracking a release branch other than 10.1-RELEASE. Cheers, Matthew --wj3KMH9pJKdcIXxr2rN8mjvTV9W0CE52l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJViykrXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATelMP/2cQFNXhpIBtgV7lLZ4VlwLL 9jNQ57Ev54/pZS7eqvGGd4F+Yx3mktj4eG6o8yksh6WpB9YHeZHUnH5uPawe7fIZ IppjgFFvfxcDcFUjO26G2aymOKnPBw8T57kC4WyOqVrQ0cJOKyHi5X85BgFvGpiU ynQzopmXqsT4IAyO8z9xs/Grw7O4QDitIUJsHjgM6y0vMXN7ZBMBHIJsLRCMzESO hB0Gjdi9X8n5evKB+FXBx2QvGF3baAkexGYcwKOvr3xzsnVcHIugqawc51gPjRbE /QzWH1vi41Tw5fAXFckdTmp4arKzRotj/0hLLbFm8AT0d5cA9UXkikbBQQ2U0oRJ ClCzZcX4xZNx2L3BhYhYg0k9nFp1TdWnrFre/QG4BzgcQMf4EYdMk6GikZdCQwWZ GZVyWraUjgukNmJuAwjANLfOLAUBmchnqMBI7qnAKPmtRXBDWJNNkpx31I/491Vc AAPP/bUCY2w+xfkaHOsOEDtFRjeeywE+77kdZfYpKOICHu8/u+oZh9PYB8GOXiKb lyMybJaLgPi0tDdQOF+tZCgYrKkDPzc2VR1XRDgVGAus40HyiBfUM8qUKPwhCP/l UKK8lepyf3cqgR1IiYv5fpimWfjPukyrBXa+DXR8E+gdyHFTywl+BPMLYE/q4b+2 H1BN8tB4nPH3BQa4PlTa =glCy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wj3KMH9pJKdcIXxr2rN8mjvTV9W0CE52l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 22:44:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC59916F02 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E79252D75 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29B51276C3; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:44:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5OMifui002026; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:44:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:44:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Chuck @ Mantis" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrades and /usr/src/UPDATING Message-Id: <20150625004441.5d292dbb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <558B1B6D.4000303@mantis.biz> References: <558B1B6D.4000303@mantis.biz> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:44:52 -0000 On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:04:45 -0400, Chuck @ Mantis wrote: > In past versions of BSD I've complied my own updates from source but now > that I've started using the binary upgrade 'freebsd-update' where can I > read /usr/src/UPDATING before updating things? I used to do it after a > cvs/svn update If your /etc/freebsd-update.conf contains the "src" component, the /usr/src subtree will be subject to updates. You can at first run "freebsd-update fetch" to obtain the compressed update and look for the file that would become /usr/src/UPDATING (and can be found in /var/db/freebsd-update) when you apply the update with "freebsd-update install". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 22:46:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE84916F42 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE722E12 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.106.150.188]) by know-smtprelay-7-imp with bizsmtp id kNm71q0044481jl01Nm7FC; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:46:07 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [81.106.150.188] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=JuUM15MC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=DGj713NdaxKrsjjgQne7PA==:117 a=DGj713NdaxKrsjjgQne7PA==:17 a=J0QyKEt1u0cA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=O24Aq5uEAAAA:8 a=2nllOklAhqAsVHNeUDsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 500) id D88678887B; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:46:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:46:06 +0100 From: Ken Moffat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? Message-ID: <20150624224606.GA28606@milliways> References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:46:16 -0000 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 04:03:04PM -0453, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > xfce-4.12_1, FreeBSD 9.3R-p13 ? WHen I right click on the tool bar, I get > only a (very) limited list of things to activate. TIA & have a good one. > I know nothing about that version of FreeBSD, much less which binary packages are available, but ISTR you said you were compiling things yourself ? If that is so, you can probably find whichever plugins you require at http://archive.xfce.org/src/panel-plugins/ ĸen, currently on a netbook running an old (approx 9 months, xfce-4.10.something) linux install where I have about 15 options available (not all are plugins, that includes things like the separator) - and I ignored most of the plugins at that URL after doing some initial exploration on a desktop. -- Nanny Ogg usually went to bed early. After all, she was an old lady. 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[75.168.190.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eg3sm167307igb.0.2015.06.24.16.26.08 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:26:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> <558AD242.8070009@hiwaay.net> From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem In-reply-to: <558AD242.8070009@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:26:07 -0500 Message-ID: <86ioacpu28.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:26:17 -0000 William A. Mahaffey III writes: > On 06/24/15 10:42, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >> BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? > > Yup, see: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=380&N=100007605%20600358494&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&OEMMark=0,N,1 I have one of those Samsung disks myself. Not much in the way of performance, but I just use it for backups anyway. -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 23:38:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DD49165F8 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92C5618ED for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF81C3F840 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:38:08 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:38:16 -0000 Traditionally I have always run fileservers headless, with any administration being done through ssh. However, I'm currently working with a system that's somewhat overpowered for its job and I'm considering throwing a window manager on there just to have access to more stuff. Are there any utilities out there that require or really benefit from a window manager that are worth installing one for? The system's main function is a sort of NAS that can have usb drives plugged directly into it, so I'm only really interested in stuff that would relate to that: for example disk partitioning/repair programs or fancy shells for messing with samba/nfs/zfs, etc. (Also: forgive me in advance if this is a stupid question. I'm not familiar with using freebsd in anything resembling a workstation role, so I'm not sure to what extent the GUI software selection differs from linux). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 24 23:47:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E0E916762 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22d.google.com (mail-ig0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D7731D6C for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igboe5 with SMTP id oe5so2612852igb.1 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wdxnq7YjNJMuCEuF7Xopsi+ypChTuQBoE+ttp56SChA=; b=yN+d5ZJD2ISNKXH3qGbwTBc0ct7pOacDdNmD60oOYX1UHJD7IRrVq6y4N13IAp1EAS 6VsCmsyKdwCH/+GC+TyEqaxeWtz++ohSk4NziGDCB4H/Pp1f68XxE5KgzvF/TaeE6Ae3 VodT4WgGkibQA8uo8/QKJTPpUsD6Qh61nmHNNpmbNh/qldrZzycCeacl+V3CBU409Uef 6ibcOJPgrtqlSaHngKHU1aVOrsfDKXjEQDnKy/QuyRqMzd3j5kNMRnYwgvkFngJycaxX xsXsyjbFbN7xldgf4I2kY7hbaFNS1ij4MAFQsDUTYrVexYWJUc2c6ctO/2aIXYFLt1D/ 5nkg== X-Received: by 10.43.140.5 with SMTP id iy5mr41222180icc.77.1435189668772; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v3sm2130934igk.1.2015.06.24.16.47.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:47:47 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:47:49 -0000 On 06/24/2015 05:38 PM, Quartz wrote: > Traditionally I have always run fileservers headless, with any > administration being done through ssh. However, I'm currently working > with a system that's somewhat overpowered for its job and I'm > considering throwing a window manager on there just to have access to > more stuff. Are there any utilities out there that require or really > benefit from a window manager that are worth installing one for? The > system's main function is a sort of NAS that can have usb drives > plugged directly into it, so I'm only really interested in stuff that > would relate to that: for example disk partitioning/repair programs or > fancy shells for messing with samba/nfs/zfs, etc. > > (Also: forgive me in advance if this is a stupid question. I'm not > familiar with using freebsd in anything resembling a workstation role, > so I'm not sure to what extent the GUI software selection differs from > linux). > _______ Yes. If the storage on the server, then a gui tool to manage the storage (drive replacement, raid reconfiguration, drive additions .... etc. It could make such tasks a lot easier. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 00:05:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74E0916BA9 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88C63169B for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 370763F839 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:05:21 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:05:23 -0000 > Yes. > If the storage on the server, then a gui tool > to manage the storage (drive replacement, > raid reconfiguration, drive additions .... etc. > It could make such tasks a lot easier. Well, is there such a thing for zfs? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 00:09:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AE0916C29 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x229.google.com (mail-ie0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32850194C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by iebmu5 with SMTP id mu5so43997128ieb.1 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:09:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oc+pudKtZq3HPguWR1o2OW/HvtLy0RPzYYwWNbxKOVo=; b=xFYbWlQScsjHS5qiV4qeVcZfOuQxw5lliQXHFBbsOMVgH+p/UcRl1IagmaSogAf1oX uy2iiHJhymx7ypknotqeYt2qly0U4kv4/yvLgFeAxg8WbM5RBBVcjgmZkHzGctDQdoTh xJs9Uoco1WZRzz5c9GshwqcJmVaqV80AMOHMftE9smxmwDKUUlJs9tNm6pgCG+QDUIWK i3bHDWxYbHdbhQzfwGBvGX11y0K+GxIfN4PaBmeah8Vi6GivbVQyZGYPaJ5xsZYy/sAt 3CXFZZoThziKHUz2VmQzluWl8uLSOyJ6BGTv7r1Ze7qHUmgXrM3+5cPtvqoDz2ttj2tg e3yg== X-Received: by 10.107.154.70 with SMTP id c67mr55428444ioe.22.1435190997582; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z195sm18444377iod.33.2015.06.24.17.09.56 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:09:56 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:09:58 -0000 On 06/24/2015 06:05 PM, Quartz wrote: >> Yes. >> If the storage on the server, then a gui tool >> to manage the storage (drive replacement, >> raid reconfiguration, drive additions .... etc. >> It could make such tasks a lot easier. > > Well, is there such a thing for zfs? > :) You said for server. A raid has nothing to do with the FS type, be it ext[N], NTFS, fat32, UFS, HFS+, ...etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 00:53:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479A69152D8 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF4D1E58 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CF933C1D; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3F1F539819; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:53:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:53:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> (William A. Mahaffey, III's message of "Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:03:04 -0453") Message-ID: <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:53:15 -0000 "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > xfce-4.12_1, FreeBSD 9.3R-p13 ? WHen I right click on the tool bar, I > get only a (very) limited list of things to activate. TIA & have a > good one. One of that "limited" list is "launcher", which lets you add anything that can be invoked from a command line. 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In-reply-to: <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:11:16 -0500 Message-ID: <86h9pwpp6z.fsf@WorkBox.Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:11:22 -0000 Have you given any thought to FreeNAS? http://www.freenas.org/ -- ================================================================= :: Brandon Wandersee :: :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: ================================================================== 'A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.' - Douglas Adams ================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 01:54:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B0D915CC5 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cp086638@cpanel10.logol.ru) Received: from cpanel10.logol.ru (cpanel10.logol.ru [188.93.212.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6526C1F5D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cp086638@cpanel10.logol.ru) Received: from cp086638 by cpanel10.logol.ru with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7sOr-0003CB-Uu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:40:05 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Account Notification X-PHP-Script: i-elearning.ru/wordpress/M.B.php for 197.1.114.81, 197.1.114.81 From: PayPal Message-Id: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:40:05 +0300 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel10.logol.ru X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [758 32008] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - cpanel10.logol.ru X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cpanel10.logol.ru: none X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:54:09 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 02:00:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0481B915ED7 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asherhiggs@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmfepi105.cox.net (fed1rmfepi105.cox.net [68.230.241.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C184B15C9 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asherhiggs@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150625015953.FPUT13434.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:59:53 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml108 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id kRzt1q0084h0NJL01RztKy; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:59:53 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.558B6099.0032,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=PZchcFdd c=1 sm=1 a=HoGr0WYPaRBOdFf8NOXYlg==:17 a=SCOcEVry034A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=54ngvRO5A7LnFNpu6GcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pweFCED3ngkA:10 a=kyUo39rD7rMA:10 a=HoGr0WYPaRBOdFf8NOXYlg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 98.166.97.31 by webmail.east.cox.net; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:59:53 -0400 Message-ID: <20150624215953.XUCYD.24297.imail@eastrmwml108> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:59:53 -0700 From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [iscsictl] Return discovered targets without login MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:00:15 -0000 With the old iscsi initiator, it was possible to do a SendTargets discovery session only and have discovered targets displayed: "iscontrol -dt ". AFAICT the new initiator lacks similar functionality and can only do a discovery followed by a login to all discovered targets. Am I missing something? If not, is there any plan to implement such functionality? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 03:18:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE49B98BDEE for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 693B82838 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:18:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5P3IRT7003885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:18:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5P3IQMe003880; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:18:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:18:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: kpneal@pobox.com cc: Quartz , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? In-Reply-To: <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> Message-ID: References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:18:27 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:18:30 -0000 On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:38:08PM -0400, Quartz wrote: >> Traditionally I have always run fileservers headless, with any >> administration being done through ssh. However, I'm currently working >> with a system that's somewhat overpowered for its job and I'm >> considering throwing a window manager on there just to have access to >> more stuff. Are there any utilities out there that require or really >> benefit from a window manager that are worth installing one for? The >> system's main function is a sort of NAS that can have usb drives plugged >> directly into it, so I'm only really interested in stuff that would >> relate to that: for example disk partitioning/repair programs or fancy >> shells for messing with samba/nfs/zfs, etc. > > Would you benefit from having multiple xterms open? You know, a couple > of command lines for your use, a couple for showing the status of the > machine, etc. All on screen at the same time. tmux can do that without X. :) No, I don't use it that way, but it can split the screen into multiple consoles. > If you run just an X server plus twm plus xterms then I guarantee that > no user will ever notice. True, but there are some pretty big security implications with X. If the utilities and X can be kept on a client machine, it makes things easier. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 03:49:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707F298C1B6 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5142514D0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09F9A3F6CD for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558B7A5C.80504@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:49:48 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <86h9pwpp6z.fsf@WorkBox.Home> In-Reply-To: <86h9pwpp6z.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:49:51 -0000 > Have you given any thought to FreeNAS? I need to do more than what freenas can offer in this case. > Would you benefit from having multiple xterms open? You know, a couple > of command lines for your use, a couple for showing the status of the > machine, etc. All on screen at the same time. Needing multiple windows isn't my issue. I frequently have multiple ssh sessions/terms open to a given machine when I'm messing with it, and if for some reason that's not an option I'll just use screen or tmux. There's no way I'd install an entire window manager just for that. I'm mainly looking for anything cool or useful that either can't be run through a terminal or otherwise benefits from having some sort of GUI. Stuff like GParted or gnome-disk-utility or something (although I don't think either of those are awesome enough in themselves to justify installing a whole WM). It doesn't have to be gnome/kde/xfce or even X based really, I have no restrictions, I'm just curious what's out there. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 03:53:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5653598C279 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33539189B for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 360813F6D2 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558B7B20.1010705@sneakertech.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:53:04 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:53:06 -0000 > If you run just an X server plus twm plus xterms then I guarantee that > no user will ever notice. I could probably run a protein folder on this thing and nobody would notice. It's a side project that's not going to be used anywhere near full capability, which is why I can afford to mess around a little. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 05:48:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5F798CA32 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20A281184 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-100.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5P5m5pJ031831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:48:06 -0500 Message-ID: <558B9615.7080001@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:54:20 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard drive problem References: <5589E2F9.3070604@gmail.com> <861th1tdj3.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150624153643.GB43640@neutralgood.org> <558AD242.8070009@hiwaay.net> <86ioacpu28.fsf@WorkBox.Home> In-Reply-To: <86ioacpu28.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:48:13 -0000 On 06/24/15 18:32, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > William A. Mahaffey III writes: > >> On 06/24/15 10:42, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >>> BTW, are there really 2TB _2.5"_ drives on the market? >> Yup, see: >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=380&N=100007605%20600358494&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&OEMMark=0,N,1 > I have one of those Samsung disks myself. Not much in the way of > performance, but I just use it for backups anyway. Yeah, but put a few of them in a RAID, nice performance, *and* nice storage density .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 05:52:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C2498CB46 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E8971506 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-100.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5P5qUSY000759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:52:31 -0500 Message-ID: <558B971E.9000009@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:58:45 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:52:32 -0000 On 06/24/15 19:59, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > >> xfce-4.12_1, FreeBSD 9.3R-p13 ? WHen I right click on the tool bar, I >> get only a (very) limited list of things to activate. TIA & have a >> good one. > One of that "limited" list is "launcher", which lets you add anything > that can be invoked from a command line. True, but it requires typing, i.e. leaving the mouse to type, a no-no for smooth GUI performance .... No biggie, I'm surviving now, but having to resort to the kbd in a gfx environment is just .... *wrong* .... That's why I ask .... TIA (again) & have a good one .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 05:57:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC0D98C0D1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8758D15E2 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [88.151.27.41] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Z80AC-0005jJ-LG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 06:57:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Z80AB-0004T6-GJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:57:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 06:57:27 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Message-Id: <20150625065727.e728118a09a939f408ec8526@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 24227@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:57:33 -0000 On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:09:56 -0600 jd1008 wrote: > > > On 06/24/2015 06:05 PM, Quartz wrote: > >> Yes. > >> If the storage on the server, then a gui tool > >> to manage the storage (drive replacement, > >> raid reconfiguration, drive additions .... etc. > >> It could make such tasks a lot easier. > > > > Well, is there such a thing for zfs? > > > :) > You said for server. > A raid has nothing to do with the FS type, > be it ext[N], NTFS, fat32, UFS, HFS+, ...etc. ZFS combines filesystem and storage management and is best used directly on drives or partitions and not on top of a RAID controller or other software RAID, so in this case the FS type does have a lot to do with the storage management. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 07:44:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F6B98DAD5 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moritz@schmi.tt) Received: from serving.schmi.tt (serving.schmi.tt [217.197.83.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B411FAD for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moritz@schmi.tt) Received: by serving.schmi.tt (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8FAD93C57E; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:43:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=schmi.tt; s=serving; t=1435218237; r=y; bh=qcMDMKIDiHZJmyiCL7WEL2Oz5tYlx2C2DQIBL2bmvCM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x9VNo2P2wMQZ84bB5DeTQcltPAMt1voL9muCvXuETx77vPFfyMuNw6uOQTcAXR8+8 xmQtup5g7TUtnPWFFWydhaWW5DyzhHgZbqFsI2dwn45YsveP2QJAZL1R2Tan0B68M7 7aB/qUOq3mZXczGSX06DzVckRp4rjnTUirq4R/HEayk4rVgLzLg/qXZFfb7rb/v/qJ gVwngDUokjbxIaJuCa8d64IsIP5lxD3QlDS1yTyy80V+lDPht/6kN9sXxSNhklVddd OWkkBimfXOijBpCiwRwuNF1b3sR4DzF8ZeBR0kb3tLmmp0LZMYjtvyjl2TTKbZUTdO idIiZWLHPNg7Q== Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:43:57 +0200 From: Moritz Schmitt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Remove installed port without /usr/ports directory Message-ID: <20150625074357.GA25606@serving.schmi.tt> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:44:06 -0000 Dear all, Some time ago I installed the port security/py-backports.ssl_match_hostname. Today I updated the ports tree by running portsnap fetch update and then executed portmaster to update all ports. This didn't work, however, and portmaster stopped with the following error: ===>>> The security/py-backports.ssl_match_hostname port has been deleted: This functionality was backported to python 2.7.9 ===>>> Aborting update Now I would like to delete security/py-backports.ssl_match_hostname but there is no such port in the ports tree anymore. Is there any other way to delete this port apart from checking out an old version of the port tree that still has this port in it, then delete it, and only then update? Moritz From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 07:48:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AC598DB0F for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vn0-x22f.google.com (mail-vn0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A30EB1025 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by vnbf62 with SMTP id f62so9783952vnb.10 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:48:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9yQHQUCtJT935Sh3a5v4wW6cYrNthcLs3GuznCbGn7Q=; b=v7zVbpOxcIMFKVdZ5bQ7ozqYEO6Szmly9lBh4pZpxHWFg9fxTIsvDtI403c+QhXsl2 /MM9w7JCjEI2/A87lpDSbl3s7kOCSf2big8ICT8sk3V6yEGUjIWTKGykJY7zBsJWhUCC +6l2SVd/+AZx5ES4bIF1hq0rsVj5kjlCpq64Ahrp1Rw5v/RMW5BnGsZcLhFN8sA1PqmI a5q7qF35PzlwEW//+iOkTNtxX9H2AM99oQzY6trchlkssafK+cOfHRItsHiYG8v2johT dnAItLk+Ez4dVKBWM+3Q7ISQoEYp4fXJomfAebuqvxLaiLbvCjn1OBiyAChO0wIbfCax rt5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.7.168 with SMTP id k8mr41164155vda.14.1435218534322; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.74.195 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:48:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:48:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? From: krad To: Warren Block Cc: kpneal@pobox.com, Quartz , FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:48:56 -0000 Do you do most of the admin via the local console? If not dont run an xserver on the box itself. Sure have what ever X gui admin apps you want need on the server, but just ssh in and tunnel the X server from your local workstation. If you are windows based, something like mobaterm makes things very easy. Remember the X server runs on the box that you sit at that has the monitor connected to it, not the remote server. I common misconception On 25 June 2015 at 04:18, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:38:08PM -0400, Quartz wrote: >> >>> Traditionally I have always run fileservers headless, with any >>> administration being done through ssh. However, I'm currently working >>> with a system that's somewhat overpowered for its job and I'm >>> considering throwing a window manager on there just to have access to >>> more stuff. Are there any utilities out there that require or really >>> benefit from a window manager that are worth installing one for? The >>> system's main function is a sort of NAS that can have usb drives plugged >>> directly into it, so I'm only really interested in stuff that would >>> relate to that: for example disk partitioning/repair programs or fancy >>> shells for messing with samba/nfs/zfs, etc. >>> >> >> Would you benefit from having multiple xterms open? You know, a couple >> of command lines for your use, a couple for showing the status of the >> machine, etc. All on screen at the same time. >> > > tmux can do that without X. :) No, I don't use it that way, but it can > split the screen into multiple consoles. > > If you run just an X server plus twm plus xterms then I guarantee that >> no user will ever notice. >> > > True, but there are some pretty big security implications with X. If the > utilities and X can be kept on a client machine, it makes things easier. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 07:59:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7AC98C09C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A0C816A6 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t5P7YR5r059592; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:34:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <558BAF03.7030402@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:34:27 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrades and /usr/src/UPDATING References: <558B1B6D.4000303@mantis.biz> <20150625004441.5d292dbb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150625004441.5d292dbb.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:59:28 -0000 On 24/06/2015 23:44, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:04:45 -0400, Chuck @ Mantis wrote: >> In past versions of BSD I've complied my own updates from source but now >> that I've started using the binary upgrade 'freebsd-update' where can I >> read /usr/src/UPDATING before updating things? I used to do it after a >> cvs/svn update > > If your /etc/freebsd-update.conf contains the "src" component, > the /usr/src subtree will be subject to updates. You can at first > run "freebsd-update fetch" to obtain the compressed update and > look for the file that would become /usr/src/UPDATING (and can > be found in /var/db/freebsd-update) when you apply the update > with "freebsd-update install". I know that's the theory, but I've just noticed it doesn't seem to work in practice. On the one machine I have that has /usr/src I switched to using freebsd-update in late 2014. In freebsd-update.conf I have > grep ^Components /etc/freebsd-update.conf Components src world/base kernel > freebsd-version -ku 10.1-RELEASE-p10 10.1-RELEASE-p13 > ls -lt /usr/src | head -10 total 771 drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 19 27 Nov 2014 release drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 94 27 Nov 2014 etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 287030 24 Oct 2014 ObsoleteFiles.inc drwxr-xr-x 215 root wheel 224 5 Oct 2014 usr.sbin drwxr-xr-x 257 root wheel 265 5 Oct 2014 usr.bin drwxr-xr-x 13 root wheel 17 5 Oct 2014 tools drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 7 5 Oct 2014 tests drwxr-xr-x 57 root wheel 58 5 Oct 2014 sys drwxr-xr-x 29 root wheel 31 5 Oct 2014 share I.e. my source hasn't updated in well over a year, although the various bin and lib directories show updates from this month. Could this be due to this message # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 10.1-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files are affected by updates, but no changes have been downloaded because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/mergemaster.mtree No updates needed to update system to 10.1-RELEASE-p13. and is there any way to fix it? Yes, I know I can get the source from svn but as I'm using freebsd-update it shouldn't be necessary. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 08:02:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184C98C4EA for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31F101A56 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.135.67] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z826l-0003WU-9l; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:02:04 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5P821LM002468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:02:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t5P8209W002467; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:02:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:02:00 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Frans Schreuder Subject: libosmscout Message-ID: <20150625080200.GA2397@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Frans Schreuder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.135.67 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:02:17 -0000 Hello, While we have some OSM tools in our ports: $ ls -dC1 ports/*/*osm*/pkg-descr ports/astro/josm/pkg-descr ports/astro/libosmpbf/pkg-descr ports/astro/osmium/pkg-descr ports/astro/osmosis/pkg-descr ports/comms/gr-osmosdr/pkg-descr ports/converters/osm2mp/pkg-descr ports/converters/osm2pgsql/pkg-descr ports/deskutils/osmo/pkg-descr ports/devel/libosmo-abis/pkg-descr ports/devel/libosmo-sccp/pkg-descr ports/devel/libosmocore/pkg-descr ports/games/cosmo/pkg-descr ports/games/cosmosmash/pkg-descr ports/games/xosmulti/pkg-descr ports/graphics/cosmoplayer/pkg-descr ports/graphics/glosm/pkg-descr ports/graphics/libosmesa/pkg-descr There seems to be no implementation of the tools described here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Libosmscout for rendering of OSM data for offline usage, or am I wrong? Has anybody tried to port this to FreeBSD? I have an Ubuntu based phone and there is an app which needs the files for offline map routing, details see here: https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 askubuntu.com says to me: You've earned the "Tumbleweed" badge (Asked a question with zero score, no answers, no comments, and low views for a week) for "BQ E4.5 r22: setup an alarm from a script run by user phablet or its cron job". From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 08:10:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48CD98CBCE for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fransschreuder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B5A31BF2 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fransschreuder@gmail.com) Received: by wgbhy7 with SMTP id hy7so55479457wgb.2 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=tKAbjZYqc8Yu6mVH1BrNaO/Chf418haDAUyIPTtsdvA=; b=FwP5skZG5mqLI3rJHa7O+xGT3LnBCbdfuNL2kgo2ILHVRNMzzfw6ZTUPBkxw2Fi/XU mxZELnaFp5vj7LRYYcodav37+8RV4AzMSpyjYMMl5++q/pXeOdVRiK1lmPRgZ+A++Xof rgY2NSOtYinEuBuL+/kw5X9iRSTg/z7/N8zWxdj2EGXOgNUuyHNnb1omOs8BpGP3X8Yq p8C42Xt2kVKf8oruXN9AUBhJjnro6AN9B7qd4Y1LaNqYf0FeZkF3+1TD18mbtb5YX5BC KvxaldUI6has6Dmx1XeeFqMhvgqGviVyz+t3HPJp9P7ZpKK1shsF+6jssYFAd6jixcmj kSbg== X-Received: by 10.194.192.33 with SMTP id hd1mr26765427wjc.96.1435219824791; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:610:120:3001:cd36:88c8:616e:f23e? ([2001:610:120:3001:cd36:88c8:616e:f23e]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pl1sm6344402wic.6.2015.06.25.01.10.23 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558BB76F.90602@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:10:23 +0200 From: Frans Schreuder User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libosmscout References: <20150625080200.GA2397@c720-r276659> In-Reply-To: <20150625080200.GA2397@c720-r276659> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XRB5bkwrQhdg3FB2nQDAwgOxd33ChNUji" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:10:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XRB5bkwrQhdg3FB2nQDAwgOxd33ChNUji Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthias, If you download the tools from https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu, you can compile the following tools: git clone https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu.git cd OSMScout-ubuntu/OSMScout/libosmscout/ =2E/autogen.sh =2E/configure --prefix=3D/usr make sudo make install sudo ldconfig cd OSMScout-ubuntu/OSMScout/libosmscout-import/ =2E/autogen.sh =2E/configure --prefix=3D/usr make sudo make install sudo ldconfig cd OSMScout-ubuntu/OSMScout/Import/ =2E/autogen.sh =2E/configure --prefix=3D/usr make sudo make install osmscout-import Don't use the upstream map converter tools from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Libosmscout, as the map format changes very often and is already ahead of OSMScout for Ubuntu phone. Frans On 06/25/2015 10:02 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > While we have some OSM tools in our ports: > > $ ls -dC1 ports/*/*osm*/pkg-descr > ports/astro/josm/pkg-descr > ports/astro/libosmpbf/pkg-descr > ports/astro/osmium/pkg-descr > ports/astro/osmosis/pkg-descr > ports/comms/gr-osmosdr/pkg-descr > ports/converters/osm2mp/pkg-descr > ports/converters/osm2pgsql/pkg-descr > ports/deskutils/osmo/pkg-descr > ports/devel/libosmo-abis/pkg-descr > ports/devel/libosmo-sccp/pkg-descr > ports/devel/libosmocore/pkg-descr > ports/games/cosmo/pkg-descr > ports/games/cosmosmash/pkg-descr > ports/games/xosmulti/pkg-descr > ports/graphics/cosmoplayer/pkg-descr > ports/graphics/glosm/pkg-descr > ports/graphics/libosmesa/pkg-descr > > There seems to be no implementation of the tools described here: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Libosmscout > > for rendering of OSM data for offline usage, or am I wrong? > Has anybody tried to port this to FreeBSD? > > I have an Ubuntu based phone and there is an app which needs the files > for offline map routing, details see here: > > https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu > > Thanks > > matthias --XRB5bkwrQhdg3FB2nQDAwgOxd33ChNUji Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWLt28ACgkQcY8HGIrVkF7GIgCfROqPJ8tNBMzHgbLjfbdUZQWo zO0An0nU1DbtV+I4Cw/iNGfqkUtd/CXS =1N5z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XRB5bkwrQhdg3FB2nQDAwgOxd33ChNUji-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 09:13:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6CC98D6C8 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 026051ED8 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC3313F709 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:13:19 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:13:22 -0000 >Remember the X server runs on the box that you > sit at that has the monitor connected to it, not the remote server. Oh that's right, I always forget X can do that. Good tip. Either way though, I'm still curious what's out there for programs. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 09:23:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A6C98D889 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D861E1288 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.135.67] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z83Nq-0007kB-GP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:23:46 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r276659 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5P9NgZ7027973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:23:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t5P9NfcB027972; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:23:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:23:41 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Frans Schreuder Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libosmscout Message-ID: <20150625092341.GA16994@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Frans Schreuder , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150625080200.GA2397@c720-r276659> <558BB76F.90602@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <558BB76F.90602@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.135.67 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:23:51 -0000 Hello Frans, Thanks for the recipie; I have had to make the following small changes: the normal --prefix is in FreeBSD /usr/local El día Thursday, June 25, 2015 a las 10:10:23AM +0200, Frans Schreuder escribió: > Hello Matthias, > > If you download the tools from > https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu, you can compile the > following tools: > > git clone https://github.com/fransschreuder/OSMScout-ubuntu.git > > cd OSMScout-ubuntu/OSMScout/libosmscout/ > ./autogen.sh > ./configure --prefix=/usr > make > sudo make install > sudo ldconfig > in FreeBSD one must set PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/ as env; > cd OSMScout-ubuntu/OSMScout/libosmscout-import/ > ./autogen.sh > ./configure --prefix=/usr > make > sudo make install > sudo ldconfig > > cd OSMScout-ubuntu/OSMScout/Import/ > ./autogen.sh > ./configure --prefix=/usr > make > sudo make install > > osmscout-import the tool 'osmscout-import' uses /bin/sh (which is in Linux a bash), I have had to modify the shebang to /usr/local/bin/bash will test how it works, later. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 askubuntu.com says to me: You've earned the "Tumbleweed" badge (Asked a question with zero score, no answers, no comments, and low views for a week) for "BQ E4.5 r22: setup an alarm from a script run by user phablet or its cron job". 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To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: Recadastramento do cartao chave de seguranca Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:23:07 -0300 X-Bounce-Tracking-Info: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:23:21 -0000 Bradesco Prezado Cliente É com grande satisfação que a equipe da central de segurança, envia este e-mail=2E O motivo pelo qual enviamos este e-mail para você é para informar que seu cartão chave de segurança encontra-se expirado em nosso sistema, e por motivos de segurança e integridade que temos com o nossos clientes pedimos com urgência a atualização cadastral, pois se a mesma não for realizada teremos que fazer o bloqueio imediato de seu nome no sistema bancário por razões de segurança e integridade moral=2E Para que a atualização de seus dados seja efetivada, o Banco do Bradesco disponibilizou um portal totalmente seguro e íntegro, para que seu nome seja preservado com a máxima segurança e eficiência=2E O contato por e-mail por nossa equipe não é comum, vez que só contatamos nossos clientes por e-mail quando não conseguimos contato, por telefone=2E A atualização de seus dados nas próximas horas é fundamental, Caso o mesmo não for efetuado nossa equipe tomará as seguintes precauções=2E - Usuário suspenso do acesso ao Internet Banking=2E - Impossivel realizar saques, pagamentos e transfêrencias - Bloqueio imediato do cartão (Débito e Crédito) O desbloqueio só poderá ser efetuado com a atualização de seus dados, caso deseje realizar a atualização de outra forma, sugerimos para que compareça a sua agência onde é cadastrado=2E O Banco trabalha continuamente para manter o mais alto nível de segurança=2E  Clique aqui para atualizar seus dados cadastrais=2E From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:06:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF5F98DE13 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196A81253 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by wicnd19 with SMTP id nd19so25233756wic.1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:06:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R3Jzm/PxxjEcmblpIYrQlxoZabc43XP3bUwD4En0jG8=; b=twP1u70GB/Sj+YcGoqX+gXbldHjZMrQzP6eX7zRrXHPsgdNUnIpa3LLE9dGVyE5Zuw Xm28y2sKCkic29QUFRWgBLPQYsUz9bzmnYOxdYsql37kxBnnAo99JP14u+1Z5pyM7ibE LrVB0nJ++vGybw9dRcBfLvJr4UvlXXYyiz1gkrApoZYX4yC6W+VOM+8X1IWtw2fUt7W0 KcOuFcsLRZcw3alOZPdJ/MPRiSOkLReOZBuyNh081J6G/TFjjPvcJLGXAhp8jE/dQP8Q 6ppxdQ02Xe8WkcYu7RSC4ng9rwbhoRSKVf9B/5o+y0uZ3cGFgRPk+8wVACXF1qieiMIi UXfw== X-Received: by 10.180.89.66 with SMTP id bm2mr8270076wib.6.1435255575456; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (4e5670d0.skybroadband.com. [78.86.112.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id di7sm8712682wib.23.2015.06.25.11.06.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:06:07 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Message-ID: <20150625190607.37f501e0@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:06:17 -0000 On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:09:56 -0600 jd1008 wrote: > > > On 06/24/2015 06:05 PM, Quartz wrote: > >> Yes. > >> If the storage on the server, then a gui tool > >> to manage the storage (drive replacement, > >> raid reconfiguration, drive additions .... etc. > >> It could make such tasks a lot easier. > > > > Well, is there such a thing for zfs? > > > :) > You said for server. > A raid has nothing to do with the FS type, > be it ext[N], NTFS, fat32, UFS, HFS+, ...etc. zfs has its own raidz implementation. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:11:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1154698CE6C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mbob.nabble.com (mbob.nabble.com [162.253.133.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F861901 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from msam.nabble.com (unknown [162.253.133.85]) by mbob.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52531FC306C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:11:02 -0700 (MST) From: wfdudley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1435255862253-6020737.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: freebsd-update from 8.4 to 9.3 causes gmirror to disappear -- HELP! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:11:03 -0000 I've been running 8.4 STABLE for a while, but decided to try to use freebsd-update to move to 9.3 I have a pair of 2TB drives in a gmirror. Works fine. I used svn to pull the 8.4 RELEASE source, and built myself an 8.4 RELEASE system. Then, I followed the instructions here: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/installation.html And after the first reboot in to the 9.3 kernel, my gmirror is GONE. This is ALL MY DATA, and the freebsd-update database (/var/db/freebsd-update). After discovering that the mirror was GONE, I did this: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=17 gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad14 Which is how I configured the mirror initially (from this http://www.iprobot.net/linux-tutorial/how-to-setup-sofware-raid-in-freebsd/ post). I'm afraid to do anything more. I'm rebuilding 8.4 RELEASE and am going to try to boot into that to see if that works, but then I guess I can't use freebsd-update because it causes my mirror to disappear. What's wrong? How can i get my mirror back? Thanks, Bill Dudley wfdudley@gmail.com P.S. the "subscribe to the mailing list" feature of this web forum appears broken, in that it doesn't cause an email to be sent to me inviting me to confirm my subscription. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/freebsd-update-from-8-4-to-9-3-causes-gmirror-to-disappear-HELP-tp6020737.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:21:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF1698C6FE for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taogediyi+==ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc===@sina.com) Received: from mail2-188.sinamail.sina.com.cn (mail2-188.sinamail.sina.com.cn [60.28.2.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35681D65 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taogediyi+==ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc===@sina.com) X-SGroup: ow Received: from mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com ([172.16.113.64]) by irtj11-91.sinamail.sina.com.cn with ESMTP; 26 Jun 2015 02:21:09 +0800 Received: by mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 0EF802C0051; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:21:09 +0800 (CST) Auther: VipMail_1.0 (REM) Sender: taogediyi+==ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc===@sina.com From: To: Subject: =?utf-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaUmU6IEFueSB1dGlscyB3b3J0aCBpbnN0YWxsaW5nIGEgR1VJIG9uIGEgc2VydmVyIGZvcj8=?= MIME_version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Message-Id: <20150625182109.0EF802C0051@mda04.fmail.tg.sinanode.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:21:09 +0800 (CST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:21:17 -0000 5oKo5aW977yM5oKo55qE5p2l5L+h5bey6KKr6Z+s5ZOl5Zui6Zif5pS25Yiw77yM6K+36ZqP5pe2 5YWz5rOoUVHnvqTjgIHnvZHmoKHmlrDpspzkuovnrYnnmoTlpZblirHkv6Hmga/lj5HluIPvvIzo sKLosKLlj4LkuI7vvIE= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:20:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FF898C67F for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E68A1D1E for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by wiga1 with SMTP id a1so172083988wig.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:20:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WoQiXDxU2RmEwK2IuPpOXAGwo50O2VrYCrWUmPIqeo4=; b=AEPOh9JZLscvU2c4yzxw/B7OOGR8PGXlvVsMOSmGsfS6ORJuYnGUYbS+gMdKv6HUK0 s89tXm5UGjpIqo6lmgM31i6j2GGtsofbdAyWxgsOuPOhMhu+MgGcOf/WAiAL1PcU3nZg TFULUT6KlaGiISg6qpUM9YtuOXxck8UlhSD7+Sm1mnXOLYhXtS5NfT73UqQUzuSQHJnu n7V0UV05ankkn/7svc4ku9k2g/wvUpnyJb7Wv84cheYIBN6gLEXVZ/1BhSJPZJil4GX+ g3xdBhmGElUH5R2P9eNqQRGzlFu4+8gxAq/v/fFd6QbH3kuV6oTxeDQDex9N3mhaZUsM TEcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.174.194 with SMTP id bu2mr84059880wjc.76.1435256454016; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.73.5 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.73.5 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:20:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:20:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? From: krad To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:20:56 -0000 I wouldn't just free as either as its an appliance so basically a weird version of freebsd. Fine for some but restricting if you like to play. You could look at zfsguru though as that's a dropin gui for zfs so should sit on top of vanilla freebsd fine On 25 Jun 2015 19:12, "Quartz" wrote: > > Remember the X server runs on the box that you >> sit at that has the monitor connected to it, not the remote server. >> > > Oh that's right, I always forget X can do that. Good tip. > > Either way though, I'm still curious what's out there for programs. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:24:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEE298CE16 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x234.google.com (mail-ig0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17A671192 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igbiq7 with SMTP id iq7so124846365igb.1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uATzhRd24WMbYp8ZV8FSW1hVqH/LJG02HezsMD1kh1o=; b=UswVeXVR18rFGBpyT5tpN4ydAM4eYhW4e2JcWr/3SHbuoyFTJKWO7b3b2QXIAUeVqv FTbCWnmQGButICY+Mqg9ACbODe1/kr6xEN/Fn8hTygt9AsA09SSWnNcyUrpHGSgtCg9I e0ipMnvhSWLi8gg/rnHYOQ9wpaUwc12SxHjlMwX5fdaWmcBF6HD/aw4QDAKXaGZzJAKR NCI4dEkEQn7xyHRidZbcw0oJ0sqfAMu5G2zALdcawXx2I/pr4j3t0RzdYMlkwJkhgs2S Yoq+6lXpEpg224jGK8uaGy7TBXtJyO7eyIuGLob74gQUSA0KunJxEIy2NPlZhk9qO0XU q4GQ== X-Received: by 10.42.72.132 with SMTP id o4mr46199871icj.20.1435256687400; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c12sm18329726ioj.39.2015.06.25.11.24.46 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558C4756.1030805@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:24:22 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> <20150625065727.e728118a09a939f408ec8526@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20150625065727.e728118a09a939f408ec8526@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:24:48 -0000 On 06/24/2015 11:57 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:09:56 -0600 > jd1008 wrote: > >> >> On 06/24/2015 06:05 PM, Quartz wrote: >>>> Yes. >>>> If the storage on the server, then a gui tool >>>> to manage the storage (drive replacement, >>>> raid reconfiguration, drive additions .... etc. >>>> It could make such tasks a lot easier. >>> Well, is there such a thing for zfs? >>> >> :) >> You said for server. >> A raid has nothing to do with the FS type, >> be it ext[N], NTFS, fat32, UFS, HFS+, ...etc. > ZFS combines filesystem and storage management and is best used > directly on drives or partitions and not on top of a RAID controller or > other software RAID, so in this case the FS type does have a lot to do with > the storage management. > I have not used Sun's ZFS, so was not familiar with it. Found an interesting evaluation of it at http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:20:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BAC98C67D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuck@mantis.biz) Received: from zip.c7hosting.com (zip.c7hosting.com [96.47.41.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35AC41D1C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuck@mantis.biz) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mantis.biz; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=t9+47CLGZp0BiGq4FGa2sGtKPYOrtcK0Biv6Oi+tfEo=; b=NEQRM/5zIpFM8r3IcqeqRlyMu6TARjeK8TcLwTiaUExJ3RH2w0NT8dRAHRz9leRwmIkSUTMe7otgY3hroZRr6ku1IrzTlbDMIL0RAU6SjDN7RJGhbteq7qbMzRuKeUly; Received: from [69.158.105.20] (port=52121 helo=[192.168.2.13]) by zip.c7hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8Bld-0003Uc-W1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:20:54 -0400 Message-ID: <558C4684.1010906@mantis.biz> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:20:52 -0400 From: "Chuck @ Mantis" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrades and /usr/src/UPDATING References: <558B1B6D.4000303@mantis.biz> <20150625004441.5d292dbb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150625004441.5d292dbb.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zip.c7hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mantis.biz X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: zip.c7hosting.com: authenticated_id: chuck@mantis.biz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:20:55 -0000 On 6/24/2015 6:44 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:04:45 -0400, Chuck @ Mantis wrote: >> In past versions of BSD I've complied my own updates from source but now >> that I've started using the binary upgrade 'freebsd-update' where can I >> read /usr/src/UPDATING before updating things? I used to do it after a >> cvs/svn update > If your /etc/freebsd-update.conf contains the "src" component, > the /usr/src subtree will be subject to updates. You can at first > run "freebsd-update fetch" to obtain the compressed update and > look for the file that would become /usr/src/UPDATING (and can > be found in /var/db/freebsd-update) when you apply the update > with "freebsd-update install". > > > hmmm, I didn't find that file... /etc/freebsd-update.conf : Components src world kernel freebsd-update fetch # ls -l /var/db/freebsd-update/ total 216 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Jun 25 14:17 f465c3739385890c221dff1a05e578c6cae0d0430e46996d319db7439f884336-install -> install.aeuhCT lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Jun 16 15:13 f465c3739385890c221dff1a05e578c6cae0d0430e46996d319db7439f884336-rollback -> install.HaNqXj drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 174592 Jun 25 14:17 files drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Jun 10 11:58 install.CzxtRv drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Jun 12 13:29 install.DgHyxo drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Jun 16 15:19 install.HaNqXj drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Jun 25 14:17 install.aeuhCT drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Jun 11 15:29 install.m4Vech -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 800 Jun 9 18:12 pub.ssl -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 124 Jun 25 14:16 serverlist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 124 Jun 25 14:16 serverlist_full -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 25 Jun 25 14:16 serverlist_tried -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 150 Jun 25 14:16 tINDEX.present -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 113 Jun 25 14:16 tag From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:21:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21A698C709 for ; 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Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.42.146 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:25:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:25:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: chown silently fails to respect NSS From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:25:19 -0000 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Why is chown is silently failing to chown a file to a winbind user > that is listed in 'getent passwd'? > root@zinc:~/temp # getent passwd MYDOMAIN\\cstankevitz > MYDOMAIN\cstankevitz:*:4294967295:4294967295:Chris > Stankevitz:/home/MYDOMAIN/cstankevitz:/bin/false > > root@zinc:~/temp # chown -v -v MYDOMAIN\\cstankevitz file.txt > > root@zinc:~/temp # ls -l > total 1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 23 11:34 file.txt - chown silently fails when you pass the ridiculous UID 4294967295 (2^32-1) - winbind was populating UID 4294967295 because I failed to supply an idmap backend/range for the default domain. This is apparently needed to capture a special pseudo-domain called BUILTIN. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:22:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C6D98C974 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 278A31ED6 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by lbnk3 with SMTP id k3so50738692lbn.1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:22:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yuhb6btOMMS4rcqynBrjR+KXyi4RtzFoazXEvLARSms=; b=bi8pCsBFvZ2xJ47rZienujI3WwaB0/XYUb2eiTmWXKcm3DDByabP6NrPDYt9Boo86a 6ESyU+zSTmP9hbMouz0pW4Z4Rbqp3BGUKpWskXgIxyQERX53sUxT723N0ye2MMt//adH isvzW+yK6XwB5N+5O1IaJyI+/jGjrNc6Ok8dsFUjJWATS0bnvPeA9Hm+cfcgyCAnjHaj EyIl5+FPsZQ0uGJwnQ+siMDJ6mM7V+qN+XEppfKFlCHwXdn2SRIW5NwAKbBDB5stZIiF pZyYuCrBAuW6Z1e+7SO+DDyKswz7Z1EfVQ6k+G/4eUw9OsLDCohwTdfmsH2eWcPdbScH AR5w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm1XxNIEChr7BroMmUTE4sbSEZkotiDN53yo8olCwl124AT0DSKDXJL4Yi4tdZXzHT96gzb MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.72.104 with SMTP id c8mr46966025lbv.77.1435256176100; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.4.194 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [140.239.2.163] Received: by 10.152.4.194 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150625074357.GA25606@serving.schmi.tt> References: <20150625074357.GA25606@serving.schmi.tt> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:16:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Remove installed port without /usr/ports directory From: "Brian W." To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:22:08 -0000 A package should've been created as part of that. Perhaps try listing installed packages and then deleting the displayed match. On Jun 25, 2015 11:11 AM, "Moritz Schmitt" wrote: > Dear all, > > Some time ago I installed the port > > security/py-backports.ssl_match_hostname. > > Today I updated the ports tree by running > > portsnap fetch update > > and then executed portmaster to update all ports. This didn't work, > however, > and portmaster stopped with the following error: > > ===>>> The security/py-backports.ssl_match_hostname port has been > deleted: This functionality was backported to python 2.7.9 > ===>>> Aborting update > > Now I would like to delete security/py-backports.ssl_match_hostname but > there > is no such port in the ports tree anymore. > > Is there any other way to delete this port apart from checking out an old > version of the port tree that still has this port in it, then delete it, > and > only then update? > > Moritz > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:31:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B83498C937 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com (mail-ie0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9DC8191A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by iebmu5 with SMTP id mu5so60297508ieb.1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=jU85xL+zpAI4ii10JnN60W8z9HCqSOVoDX5Gh7YJ4fs=; b=qCsqqXGA26uf1BgWc1z9TBz9ARTmRTbJ7B8ujdR3Ul7gUxOb53tKmL8RCwjkPndz3r 3MSL5MT0a9Dx7Tj+pM8itYEYyqveAZBz4PF5FzY9JFH7cCtlwtYllIVccPSXzyzPPJYB yKI+7AxZRUtldU3gsayd74ThjCarNkPItpWYUzWWtNEyrJRGUJodhPHbuFop0HZkGqKm XFR6xr7UvK6zFjdN1UNyRgSyJNAORscBpCE+Dg2woJAQF2YjN088lyUC4mqfTKNC2rh8 WhlhWIHluOQG4wkKXpr9PsCg15Xn5r7E5u5QU1KPKgukN6R1y9UydtwiOHZgzOhcx7WY cixQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.43.199 with SMTP id y7mr7865022ice.12.1435257113294; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.15.33 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:31:54 -0000 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Quartz wrote: > > Remember the X server runs on the box that you >> sit at that has the monitor connected to it, not the remote server. >> > > Oh that's right, I always forget X can do that. Good tip. > > Either way though, I'm still curious what's out there for programs. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mc ( Midnight Commander ) may be useful in a server with its two panes . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:31:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD6598C93A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAAE51921 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by wgck11 with SMTP id k11so69885433wgc.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+b90Tykj1CRtWrloidfVuJO8JGr6uM8/3OQj9AgFBlw=; b=UGwX2VGVuP3J0OqR/uJ5jXDDvfILuzPRbrvNm9/+dsWxWdTuT0e1YVTquzIomSLDs2 /RlUpC/fRRCUNkJoMh77W8EqEBvMwxRCM7DJc9mXkYI9p6QwG7B8aj7aQKYuucK9Lfdp l1wKU2GnmYaUkFd0iXHShTyd0ePWOxVHz6nK1mFv7VIY2koo9hLQkfH2r++AQcUf2aXj NoqstRUFoc38EwR8UzdLTx+VuVH9eMIX6eUfk2rczFsxSofu8qqVxtCxUw3/oaINU/Gt Pj+gGlJAzgX75cTWfz3a3Jp0mhuft3A31xjEtOWlAv7OcimU4wm9G5iIo5OpMw9BUWrd 7JZA== X-Received: by 10.194.248.227 with SMTP id yp3mr72039808wjc.32.1435257114195; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (4e5670d0.skybroadband.com. [78.86.112.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q9sm8816841wiz.23.2015.06.25.11.31.50 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:31:41 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? Message-ID: <20150625193141.250db9f0@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <558B971E.9000009@hiwaay.net> References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <558B971E.9000009@hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:31:56 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:58:45 -0453 William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 06/24/15 19:59, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > > > >> xfce-4.12_1, FreeBSD 9.3R-p13 ? WHen I right click on the tool > >> bar, I get only a (very) limited list of things to activate. TIA & > >> have a good one. > > One of that "limited" list is "launcher", which lets you add > > anything that can be invoked from a command line. > > > True, but it requires typing, i.e. leaving the mouse to type, a no-no > for smooth GUI performance .... No biggie, I'm surviving now, It must be hell. > but > having to resort to the kbd in a gfx environment is just .... > *wrong* .... That's why I ask .... TIA (again) & have a good one .... You can select the application from a menu after you've added the launcher. IIRC you can also create a launcher automatically on a panel by dragging a menu item from the main menu, or an icon from the desktop. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 18:51:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C850498D6C6 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B055D2DC9 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6995E06A; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:51:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=3fzguLKkcf0b/9YsF6XssPX2Rpo=; b= E0zHovqLsZ3kJk1Qj+aFAUOGBz93aVJFBS+n+/NezM7VVWx90PHc2ZP/fo2MqkR/ vlb2GIwffiMY1AqJ2RykAcfz+zCWMiBhcg9S+WXrYJiGPzntypXqrqzfmT5f7SVr cX/tV2My+in75JZmgB5wdktyEQxYO0Gndm4sBtSe88g= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2ABAD5E063; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8AD465AD; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 04:50:58 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 04:50:58 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Message-ID: <20150625185058.GA73500@ozzmosis.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:51:07 -0000 On Wed 2015-06-24 19:38:08 UTC-0400, Quartz (quartz@sneakertech.com) wrote: > Traditionally I have always run fileservers headless, with any > administration being done through ssh. However, I'm currently working > with a system that's somewhat overpowered for its job and I'm > considering throwing a window manager on there just to have access to > more stuff. Are there any utilities out there that require or really > benefit from a window manager that are worth installing one for? The > system's main function is a sort of NAS that can have usb drives plugged > directly into it, so I'm only really interested in stuff that would > relate to that: for example disk partitioning/repair programs or fancy > shells for messing with samba/nfs/zfs, etc. You can still run GUI apps headless using SSH X11 forwarding. There's SWAT for Samba which has been around for years, but IIRC it's web based. You could connect a browser to localhost and use it that way I suppose, but it seems overkill when you can just edit smbd.conf directly though. Likewise NFS and ZFS are simple enough to use as to not need a GUI, and I honestly don't think you'd gain much from one. Replacing a ZFS drive is only about half a dozen commands, and half of those involve partitioning with gpart. GPartEd is nice but I'm not sure if it can be used in place of gpart for setting up ZFS drives. I think you still need to use gpart to install the ZFS bootcode. A GUI app for monitoring the health & usage of ZFS pools wouldn't be a bad idea but I don't know of anything. A web app would probably be better, for remote access. Overpowered servers can make good virtual machine hosts, if you feel like tinkering with other OSes on top of VirtualBox or QEMU etc. Those can be remote controlled too, though... > (Also: forgive me in advance if this is a stupid question. I'm not > familiar with using freebsd in anything resembling a workstation role, > so I'm not sure to what extent the GUI software selection differs from > linux). I think it's a good question! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 19:00:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B208B98D82D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a82.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96847143B for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a82.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a82.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DBB282061; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:00:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=HbtIqT1MpphVgLLOQcLdpKGyDuc=; b= ZnLKeytvKb1QAYxI5ItOnjteUrzhpczD3R1d+q91Scu8L1byhRnYSqyJO1uQjn79 BPAOtIpK+PcmJPZlrOqsoHNgOSWPuiGevTKjbZupfHopSQeE6qRfgyuM/jsBLhJ/ uBz2vWPhr5LthGWs+84bad+g/JPeoLRR9u3PC1R1K8g= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a82.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8402028205F; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 006745B3; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 05:00:36 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 05:00:36 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Cc: Quartz , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Message-ID: <20150625190036.GB73500@ozzmosis.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:00:41 -0000 On Thu 2015-06-25 11:31:53 UTC-0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk (m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) wrote: > mc ( Midnight Commander ) may be useful in a server with its two panes . I'm not sure how much that relates to the OP's question. In any case, Midnight Commander is a text app though, not GUI. Look at GNOME Commander if you want a two pane GUI file manager. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 19:01:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620DF98D92A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A6101600 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by igcsj18 with SMTP id sj18so15754423igc.1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NGeyCwd3+G8eZkPHw/4FoLpX7z20dDOwEh4FM2Tqgvo=; b=gxC8w1cY3Q2RJnVyHzVcXw3s5M/wsii3fFUDsBcSU0v6bPIoc0XxlzjMIp+ISkua3U lTVqT2tVERC+mGCTFwQfEUvaHaRMvdxJeRwn3DqhxLrCrrxVl9qOtMplvBxoGcCU7zgP qem0P3reoYTofn1W3QQb5/eqD7h3t2Ldy47k3sCBMkhPFo0VZLtEwGc7cyd6ZwwfEugr 2iQcoVEVAQoieBmnOdF80BAKZQdf5CefO8AWdFwgn+l4Lt2Gs0X+qCRXG16YCgu6JGEw T9eO0XVwwiTVD59pvV7o0HCXQ3oPd17Fv1NTT6bQpX/rI3qnqHQ84Rq8jfqGACN5SHiz AN2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.249.147 with SMTP id mk19mr44558653icb.26.1435258917422; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.15.33 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:01:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150625190036.GB73500@ozzmosis.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> <20150625190036.GB73500@ozzmosis.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:01:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: andrew clarke Cc: Quartz , FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:58 -0000 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:00 PM, andrew clarke wrote: > On Thu 2015-06-25 11:31:53 UTC-0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ( > m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) wrote: > > > mc ( Midnight Commander ) may be useful in a server with its two panes . > > I'm not sure how much that relates to the OP's question. > > In any case, Midnight Commander is a text app though, not GUI. > > Look at GNOME Commander if you want a two pane GUI file manager. > If GUI is not found useful , mc is a good replacement . 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[78.86.112.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ym2sm47256970wjc.44.2015.06.25.12.28.39 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:28:35 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Message-ID: <20150625202835.62d37aed@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <558C4756.1030805@gmail.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> <20150625065727.e728118a09a939f408ec8526@sohara.org> <558C4756.1030805@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:28:42 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:24:22 -0600 jd1008 wrote: > I have not used Sun's ZFS, so was not familiar with it. > Found an interesting evaluation of it at > http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ FWIW ZFS has been a mainstream FreeBSD feature for some time now. It's licence allowed the SUN code to run in the FreeBSD kernel whereas Linux had to recreate it, or adapt the original version to run in userland. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 19:47:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ECD98CFCB for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F9B8117C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-233.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5PJlGx1009005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:47:17 -0500 Message-ID: <558C5AC4.1080800@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:53:31 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <558B971E.9000009@hiwaay.net> <20150625193141.250db9f0@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20150625193141.250db9f0@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:47:20 -0000 On 06/25/15 13:37, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:58:45 -0453 > William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> On 06/24/15 19:59, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: >>> >>>> xfce-4.12_1, FreeBSD 9.3R-p13 ? WHen I right click on the tool >>>> bar, I get only a (very) limited list of things to activate. TIA & >>>> have a good one. >>> One of that "limited" list is "launcher", which lets you add >>> anything that can be invoked from a command line. >> >> True, but it requires typing, i.e. leaving the mouse to type, a no-no >> for smooth GUI performance .... No biggie, I'm surviving now, > It must be hell. 1 day at a time ;-) .... > >> but >> having to resort to the kbd in a gfx environment is just .... >> *wrong* .... That's why I ask .... TIA (again) & have a good one .... > You can select the application from a menu after you've added > the launcher. IIRC you can also create a launcher automatically on a > panel by dragging a menu item from the main menu, or an icon from the > desktop. Problem is, the app I want (xcalc) isn't on the main menu ('Applications' button on my bottom tool bar/panel/whatever they call it) .... I'll try the 'add an empty launcher & then pick the app' & see how that goes. Thanks. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 19:56:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D219F98D859 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD56A1969 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E8C33C1D; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id F208739819; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <558B971E.9000009@hiwaay.net> <20150625193141.250db9f0@gumby.homeunix.com> <558C5AC4.1080800@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <558C5AC4.1080800@hiwaay.net> (William A. Mahaffey, III's message of "Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:53:31 -0453") Message-ID: <44k2urimv0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:56:00 -0000 "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > Problem is, the app I want (xcalc) isn't on the main menu > ('Applications' button on my bottom tool bar/panel/whatever they call > it) .... I'll try the 'add an empty launcher & then pick the app' & > see how that goes. Thanks. I'm sure you can handle it. [3001] (lowell@hog) ~> cat Desktop/xcalc.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=XCalc GenericName=Scientific Calculator Comment=Scientific Calculator X11 Client Exec=xcalc -rpn Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Utility; Icon=/usr/share/icons/mate/48x48/apps/kcalc.png [3002] (lowell@hog) ~> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 19:56:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACBD98D8DD for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CD9A1A0D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-233.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5PJuO7o014084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:56:24 -0500 Message-ID: <558C5CE8.1010809@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:02:39 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <558B971E.9000009@hiwaay.net> <20150625193141.250db9f0@gumby.homeunix.com> <558C5AC4.1080800@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <558C5AC4.1080800@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:56:26 -0000 On 06/25/15 14:52, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> You can select the application from a menu after you've added >> the launcher. IIRC you can also create a launcher automatically on a >> panel by dragging a menu item from the main menu, or an icon from the >> desktop. > > > Problem is, the app I want (xcalc) isn't on the main menu > ('Applications' button on my bottom tool bar/panel/whatever they call > it) .... I'll try the 'add an empty launcher & then pick the app' & > see how that goes. Thanks. .... & that worked. A bit tedious, but doesn't happen often, & I presume it will survive reboots/logouts .... *Hoooooray* !!!! -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 20:04:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74C298C0F2 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59054159D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-233.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5PK4eKW019641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:04:41 -0500 Message-ID: <558C5ED8.2020800@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:10:55 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I add arbitrary stuff to XFCE tool bar ? References: <558B1991.6070607@hiwaay.net> <44oak4vcb2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <558B971E.9000009@hiwaay.net> <20150625193141.250db9f0@gumby.homeunix.com> <558C5AC4.1080800@hiwaay.net> <44k2urimv0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44k2urimv0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:04:42 -0000 On 06/25/15 15:02, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "William A. Mahaffey III" writes: > >> Problem is, the app I want (xcalc) isn't on the main menu >> ('Applications' button on my bottom tool bar/panel/whatever they call >> it) .... I'll try the 'add an empty launcher & then pick the app' & >> see how that goes. Thanks. > I'm sure you can handle it. > > > [3001] (lowell@hog) ~> cat Desktop/xcalc.desktop > [Desktop Entry] > Name=XCalc > GenericName=Scientific Calculator > Comment=Scientific Calculator X11 Client > Exec=xcalc -rpn > Terminal=false > Type=Application > Categories=Utility; > Icon=/usr/share/icons/mate/48x48/apps/kcalc.png > [3002] (lowell@hog) ~> > > Your confidence is gratifying ;-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 20:05:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7EA98C21E for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 645CA18C2 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igblr2 with SMTP id lr2so104889659igb.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:05:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FX6mM3uj+uwFxXQ8PXxoLWG0k8LtjnpbIsmfRnMgKl4=; b=mtj2VCz6ObCLweuroDwTxI1qY+7Nwe9X4eY/7mOpqxhDc09vIbVXesCnuImE5QxACs TqdfKELgJnFffymaiIbJnXen5O1iUif2lX8tEzm0Nyr7J7N98nJRDKp2qgwHWCy1UwQ9 EqiLPhjorfTx3UYxCx+Pw+jEBZsHwhe4L6GNqSI4vxWMzD/4hsegImrd8hCgt69u35fQ DyFR9LDiYUojOXu/iFS8z9Rdxy71Tp4M+s+pZ3wfCZspupQtNnIeoeKQtbWvHM5wIZyT brnq8axaLnwDamCSpvE9PZYozDR0QdF+DUlCYNqeCW03Ea1uvEJUvxUj1tE/EPgnqmQo HfEg== X-Received: by 10.107.131.25 with SMTP id f25mr36909488iod.53.1435262756883; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u38sm20231351ioi.0.2015.06.25.13.05.55 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558C5F23.2070001@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:05:55 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> <20150625065727.e728118a09a939f408ec8526@sohara.org> <558C4756.1030805@gmail.com> <20150625202835.62d37aed@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20150625202835.62d37aed@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:05:57 -0000 On 06/25/2015 01:28 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:24:22 -0600 > jd1008 wrote: > >> I have not used Sun's ZFS, so was not familiar with it. >> Found an interesting evaluation of it at >> http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ > FWIW ZFS has been a mainstream FreeBSD feature for some time now. It's > licence allowed the SUN code to run in the FreeBSD kernel whereas > Linux had to recreate it, or adapt the original version to run in > userland. Yes - the 'fuse' land. I would love to see io performance differences between the FreeBSD implementation vs the linux implementation. I gamble that running zfs in the kernel might provide faster i/o but not sure how much faster. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 20:37:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7CD98D9C3 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48CB1042 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395A911805C; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:37:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ozzmosis.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type: in-reply-to; s=ozzmosis.com; bh=3g5NpD4qYdEWj4sIq9mxu5XlPDE=; b= MAMdePX1IlrL0renqQiuH1ZMQ0Q6pwEzP+8LH7YL8cyTrzAY6QgN3QQsjuN8sgz2 3M5j5UyBfngqu9mLt/O3Bn0h6twVasST+dTqWXgqkOg+KotZa7Y2dZKMRStSyTwK QG1wmAShhUqA2Nu970PmXBgsCQENJCjrrgEvrPkKpVU= Received: from blizzard.ozzmosis.com (unknown [203.217.88.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay@ozzmosis.com) by homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F06F7118057; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blizzard.ozzmosis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2DEA75CF; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:37:38 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:37:38 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: jd1008 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Message-ID: <20150625203738.GA75991@ozzmosis.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> <20150625065727.e728118a09a939f408ec8526@sohara.org> <558C4756.1030805@gmail.com> <20150625202835.62d37aed@gumby.homeunix.com> <558C5F23.2070001@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <558C5F23.2070001@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:37:42 -0000 On Thu 2015-06-25 14:05:55 UTC-0600, jd1008 (jd1008@gmail.com) wrote: > > FWIW ZFS has been a mainstream FreeBSD feature for some time now. It's > > licence allowed the SUN code to run in the FreeBSD kernel whereas > > Linux had to recreate it, or adapt the original version to run in > > userland. > > Yes - the 'fuse' land. > I would love to see io performance differences between the > FreeBSD implementation vs the linux implementation. > I gamble that running zfs in the kernel might provide faster i/o > but not sure how much faster. There's also a kernel version of ZFS for Linux, in addition to ZFS on FUSE. http://zfsonlinux.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 20:49:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE6998C53B for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:1f00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCEB61C07 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:1c2:d02:2605:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "chombo.houseloki.net", Issuer "brtsvcs.net CA" (verified OK)) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28AAC2D4F8E; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:1c2:d02:2605:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29] (unknown [IPv6:2601:1c2:d02:2605:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3FDA7B11; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86oak6p8w9.fsf@bsdstb.Belkin> <833145.91368.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Mel Pilgrim Message-ID: <558C6939.3070700@bluerosetech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:48:57 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <833145.91368.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:49:19 -0000 On 2015-06-24 03:10, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I was thinking about the possibility of building/upgrading the base > FreeBSD from source by steps, such as 5.1 -> final 6-stable -> final > 8-stable -> 10.1 or possibly FreeBSD-current. The introduction of KSE happened in 5.x and IIRC a related ABI break starting with 5.4 means the only upgrade path from prior versions is a full reinstall because you can't cross-run kernel and userland. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 20:53:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D509A98C91D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-x231.google.com (mail-qc0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91B2E1EF3 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscar.hodgson@gmail.com) Received: by qcet6 with SMTP id t6so24798432qce.3 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=KBUGNyA/hV3UkOYopKDwH/Ulzlw4xBWdg/D9pHywIqg=; b=QoTk7qlA9FJDbPgsP4KmsHCiYIuVeXuwMmoiYb8ff1yG2GJXwa9PUgXUJodKJtbfNS PAk6ip759d/Oc/k9imm3cME60WjrA4OTjgM81Lhf6jzCSAxN/+cPmnG+wYNtYZuDPY25 +tMMHaSGFwug8NeEZzTaMBeMb0gbGAcZ7TLGKXmp2hj2Hh0EVzXcjpRk3ZhdMnU1aGfx J775oHRygGUAqJ/13GfQQM4hXRMZUL6LK427NR9fL986go70cVz00rsL0OyFHLnNhUZr van0FJD1tXmJIjjOCOx6DW4uZrt6AVAAvAKwccEgeT/x8U7ioNgMtJbmPdbLbnPVhJN4 q6LA== X-Received: by 10.140.235.19 with SMTP id g19mr65398046qhc.52.1435265628699; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bandersnatch.cse.lehigh.edu (bandersnatch.cse.lehigh.edu. [128.180.122.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h3sm5679556qgh.22.2015.06.25.13.53.47 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: yum on freebsd 9: No module named sqlite From: Oscar Hodgson In-Reply-To: <60AFD209-581B-41B6-80D5-0119389BC447@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:53:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <78268FF8-212C-4259-879E-F9864F06CE1E@gmail.com> References: <60AFD209-581B-41B6-80D5-0119389BC447@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:53:49 -0000 Update: yum & createrepo builds / works on 10.1 (with current portsnap). = This added 85 new packages (it=E2=80=99s a pretty clean machine). Is there anyway to instruct port builds to =E2=80=98just build all = dependencies with the default options and let me know if it doesn=E2=80=99= t work out?=E2=80=99 Oscar On Jun 22, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Oscar Hodgson = wrote: Hi folks, Is anyone running yum successfully on release 9? I am trying to get a yum repository running on FreeBSD 9-RELEASE-p17 in = order to replace a Linux machine. /usr/ports is current. sysutils/yum = (3.4.3_2) builds cleanly, =E2=80=98yum=E2=80=99 fails to start with the = above error. Yum is essentially 100% python. /usr/ports/databases/py-sqlite3 is installed. There is no = =E2=80=98py-sqlite=E2=80=99 package in ports. This error extends to = various yum components (i.e. import sqlitesack, import sqlutils, and so = forth). I am stymied. Going through the ports code has not been enlightening. = Any suggestions? Oscar From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 20:55:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD3A98CA49 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24AC41FB5 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [82.113.98.225] (helo=10.56.115.225) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8EB0-0001lW-E9; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:55:14 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Frans Schreuder Cc: Subject: Re: libosmscout Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:55:05 +0200 User-Agent: Dekko/0.5.4; Qt/5.4.1; ubuntumirclient; Linux; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <558BB76F.90602@gmail.com> References: <20150625080200.GA2397@c720-r276659> <558BB76F.90602@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.98.225 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:55:19 -0000 El jueves, 25 de junio de 2015 10:10:23 (CEST), Frans Schreuder escribi=C3=B3= : > .... >=20 > osmscout-import >=20 I read in the OSM wiki, that I should grab some files of my area and=20 convert them with this command; to which dir I should SCP the files (all?)=20= into the phone? Thanks matthias --=20 Sent from my Ubuntu phone http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 20:59:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC7C98CD17 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fransschreuder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8F6410C1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fransschreuder@gmail.com) Received: by wgck11 with SMTP id k11so72716854wgc.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:59:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=8JMGSD/plutz3yNGNKraxW+p83Fx1GjBTXUeCRIwn3s=; b=f8fq6W0l3vxFIkXhQcwn544eT3FZVIinH+njC1jbO45jpw+YFHWUQPqzXwzNCF1gE0 YPbXuWoxsp2ar4Y2Q6RmWcMVu9ophAHW72SpKGhfEmR7NZ7TqiLmuCHfykUOV+fDQSWm J0hnnZmq1FkAL41WnsNMSI4KwbrCNUBA47y1RVm57QzKY2DzX4U2ibm8sP9MWXwyCAPB 383lKpWJUzQqNUds4BjDUDiHgucexwbMTRRgrUkCap+Z7GxaPEZ51NYJu1sk0Ws1nZRr GnNGnB9X81Y74LXBAeOyylbuf/qLKkiomnr93bOm/SvyaPQn6EAJlZeNjlAv5igNUC01 8qGA== X-Received: by 10.180.95.101 with SMTP id dj5mr9138430wib.16.1435265942362; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([185.23.141.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ee1sm9316588wic.8.2015.06.25.13.59.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558C6B93.9080403@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:58:59 +0200 From: Frans Schreuder User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libosmscout References: <20150625080200.GA2397@c720-r276659> <558BB76F.90602@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w6t2gMt3Gq1V8vge7hIDJfjljKqJnINTx" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:59:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --w6t2gMt3Gq1V8vge7hIDJfjljKqJnINTx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Depends, if you are using the app from the official store, you have to use the directory /home/phablet/.local/share/osmscout.fransschreuder/Maps//* If you take the map from the "open store" (open.uappexplorer.com) you can also put them in your sd card under Maps//* You can also download a map from within the app and see where they end up... the path is shown in the download dialog. Frans On 06/25/2015 10:55 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El jueves, 25 de junio de 2015 10:10:23 (CEST), Frans Schreuder escribi= =C3=B3: >> .... >> >> osmscout-import >> > > I read in the OSM wiki, that I should grab some files of my area and > convert them with this command; to which dir I should SCP the files > (all?) into the phone? > > Thanks > > matthias > > > --w6t2gMt3Gq1V8vge7hIDJfjljKqJnINTx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlWMa5QACgkQcY8HGIrVkF6iqwCfQFcpr94wVbUuhIAOiTdksLB5 /+kAn0dhAXbip4MoyKr0MgOKJqSX7v1I =R3qw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --w6t2gMt3Gq1V8vge7hIDJfjljKqJnINTx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 21:16:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5B898C87A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 647D41B5A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by ieqy10 with SMTP id y10so63462042ieq.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=08WNp4oU9s6+a5LoByZFMizvPj4+1Y2tUZ5K+4WE44Q=; b=D7RdyhPnd0wTXycoA9V/VUhEQsIYpXK3LkxeUiCH23ZeXxSkDVF9WyUEyYhM/0n0CB GffCjjVnJ9NQJQj+aJaTV5/2RBJGG2Q+hPUyVcic/qb00FY+EU8NZXYIkEB32JmcRkPU aV2Jr1ilwqcHLCb8k5u/6gtUArK8CRfeS0yVkQL22CfV8I4geHCU0r+pA58zksQK4qw4 a3zq16hDO6vhLi3o/Vc7/QTSJFv+jdD+kJrGBVPmTEnbeckk1DjXuESN6JbaN+SiNx6G luZcpYEYqNrV3yk9YrVGalZwsAytAA9QaqBevUPqHiquC/kFN9XCYSRtAHdVkB9YQfLc sAfw== X-Received: by 10.50.8.3 with SMTP id n3mr6746655iga.37.1435266979808; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([50.243.6.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pg5sm4107221igb.4.2015.06.25.14.16.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558C6FA2.7070509@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:16:18 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yum on freebsd 9: No module named sqlite References: <60AFD209-581B-41B6-80D5-0119389BC447@gmail.com> <78268FF8-212C-4259-879E-F9864F06CE1E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <78268FF8-212C-4259-879E-F9864F06CE1E@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:16:20 -0000 On 06/25/2015 02:53 PM, Oscar Hodgson wrote: > Update: yum & createrepo builds / works on 10.1 (with current portsnap). This added 85 new packages (it’s a pretty clean machine). > > Is there anyway to instruct port builds to ‘just build all dependencies with the default options and let me know if it doesn’t work out?’ > > Oscar > > On Jun 22, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Oscar Hodgson wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Is anyone running yum successfully on release 9? > > I am trying to get a yum repository running on FreeBSD 9-RELEASE-p17 in order to replace a Linux machine. /usr/ports is current. sysutils/yum (3.4.3_2) builds cleanly, ‘yum’ fails to start with the above error. Yum is essentially 100% python. > > /usr/ports/databases/py-sqlite3 is installed. There is no ‘py-sqlite’ package in ports. This error extends to various yum components (i.e. import sqlitesack, import sqlutils, and so forth). > > I am stymied. Going through the ports code has not been enlightening. Any suggestions? > > Oscar > As much as I like yum, the thing about dependencies could really frustrate some or a lot of users when they try to install some favorite package/s of theirs, and the dependencies will clash with the existing installations. Perhaps it is a bullet every will have to bite ? :) :) This will be especially true of older, no longer supported packages, or packages from other BSD clones. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 21:17:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19FB98C92D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mbob.nabble.com (mbob.nabble.com [162.253.133.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9A01C09 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from msam.nabble.com (unknown [162.253.133.85]) by mbob.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3326FC6441 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:17:13 -0700 (MST) From: wfdudley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1435255862253-6020737.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1435255862253-6020737.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-update from 8.4 to 9.3 causes gmirror to disappear -- HELP! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:17:14 -0000 Update: I reverted to 8.4 RELEASE and my mirror is back. So, how the heck do I use freebsd-update to get to 9.3 ? Do I have to un-mirror my disks? Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:11 PM, wfdudley [via FreeBSD] < ml-node+s1045724n6020737h71@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > I've been running 8.4 STABLE for a while, but decided to try to use > freebsd-update to move to 9.3 > I have a pair of 2TB drives in a gmirror. Works fine. > > I used svn to pull the 8.4 RELEASE source, and built myself an 8.4 RELEASE > system. > > Then, I followed the instructions here: > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/installation.html > > And after the first reboot in to the 9.3 kernel, my gmirror is GONE. > This is ALL MY DATA, and the freebsd-update database > (/var/db/freebsd-update). > > After discovering that the mirror was GONE, I did this: > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=17 > gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad14 > > Which is how I configured the mirror initially (from this > http://www.iprobot.net/linux-tutorial/how-to-setup-sofware-raid-in-freebsd/ post). > > > I'm afraid to do anything more. I'm rebuilding 8.4 RELEASE and am going > to try to boot > into that to see if that works, but then I guess I can't use > freebsd-update because it > causes my mirror to disappear. > > What's wrong? > > How can i get my mirror back? > > Thanks, > Bill Dudley > wfdudley@gmail.com > > P.S. the "subscribe to the mailing list" feature of this web forum appears > broken, in > that it doesn't cause an email to be sent to me inviting me to confirm my > subscription. > > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/freebsd-update-from-8-4-to-9-3-causes-gmirror-to-disappear-HELP-tp6020737.html > This email was sent by wfdudley > > (via Nabble) > To receive all replies by email, subscribe to this discussion > > -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/freebsd-update-from-8-4-to-9-3-causes-gmirror-to-disappear-HELP-tp6020737p6020922.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:20:14 -0000 A friend asks if the latest fbsd installation DVD will also install multiple Destops (like Gnome, Mate, lxde, ...etc) for him to try out, along with the gui apps like thunderbird, firefox, smplayer , .... etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:02:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338D598C324 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0914F156A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from dalet402 ([96.51.17.203]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id 8FDfZwrMRyeFy8FDgZ5Os4; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHOxYBHGCtVoBj2zseNNyEuJNqxuZ3BmEZA Content-Language: en-ca X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfFfmJKg4pV7uzJoyuJadq7pzCMRzPncxrnNL/hp40imUb549erUI8EQ42FVDYqkkx6/hdwMu3+2n/B/tnpaKLnaz7UgFDihq+1OplCDdQn+n3zqkEXq5F12VI5966pnav153yz91pHsu2vRtfvRDL4vwSzlKEwAzawxVDiw8jo27YFR7VXLaB9Aa0LKpRFKGUVmzoI+ccND/zOWrIOTqxiE= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:02:12 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of jd1008 > Sent: June 25, 2015 3:20 PM > To: FreeBSD Users > Subject: latest install DVD > > A friend asks if the latest fbsd installation DVD will also install multiple > Destops (like Gnome, Mate, lxde, ...etc) for him to try out, along with the gui > apps like thunderbird, firefox, smplayer , .... etc. Your friend might want to consider the PC-BSD "distribution" of FreeBSD. The PC-BSD gang concentrate on a solid desktop experience, and the apps in their app store generally just work (but make sure your system hardware is supported by FreeBSD though, especially laptops). An potential chicken&egg issue is that you may have to install PC-BSD first in order to browse the available apps (in the PC-BSD "AppCafe(R)"). Good luck! Dale From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:10:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75B698C414 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA82D19FB for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A66E43F796 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:09:59 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:10:05 -0000 I have not been able to connect to it for some time. Doesn't matter where I try to connect from, what computer I'm using, or what software (even curl fails). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:22:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A342B98C753 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7234F11B1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by igbqq3 with SMTP id qq3so25562265igb.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:22:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NYuyxQTS5F4I++5U/0c9g2ZocNeEXnTflYkjRIZZmQ4=; b=JI4w6NG2eb6Kw+wmYVFR9hvVJkpNZnZvimPZlDUqX9KBHz5gIBh6p2rcv7hiV8uQhp 5HipLOrJQFIJ8NIauLpfi4UeKcIXQSgJj17CbqGhwZN5/wJcOgemLSJomprfolpeqkli fd4ix3kfK3R49KAHXwOKHRAKyJgeie7+0m31IbFpwYzUIwNjr5y5cI8dEFiv8bEQad/g DvO+OtEmlkVtmqM76MbeFfDZZOJGFvnxlPopcIZLi11Gg9U5qsg1Env6mAbszM7N/qnq ZDjWtEPiAPufCoOl7SqgDe2YxqljUD/nVDg/8h1XLlFEnzCoReK2Zz6vm4MIYeKw5Q3l BSlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.140.5 with SMTP id iy5mr47094825icc.77.1435270942896; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.74.130 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:22:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:22:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? From: jungle Boogie To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:22:23 -0000 On 25 June 2015 at 15:09, Quartz wrote: > I have not been able to connect to it for some time. Doesn't matter where I > try to connect from, what computer I'm using, or what software (even curl > fails). check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. % opensopenssl s_client -connect forums.freebsd.org:443 -CAfile /etc/ssl/cert.pem CONNECTED(00000003) depth=3 C = SE, O = AddTrust AB, OU = AddTrust External TTP Network, CN = AddTrust External CA Root verify return:1 depth=2 C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority verify return:1 depth=1 C = FR, ST = Paris, L = Paris, O = Gandi, CN = Gandi Standard SSL CA 2 verify return:1 depth=0 OU = Domain Control Validated, OU = Gandi Standard SSL, CN = forums.freebsd.org verify return:1 --- Certificate chain 0 s:/OU=Domain Control Validated/OU=Gandi Standard SSL/CN=forums.freebsd.org i:/C=FR/ST=Paris/L=Paris/O=Gandi/CN=Gandi Standard SSL CA 2 1 s:/C=FR/ST=Paris/L=Paris/O=Gandi/CN=Gandi Standard SSL CA 2 i:/C=US/ST=New Jersey/L=Jersey City/O=The USERTRUST Network/CN=USERTrust RSA Certification Authority 2 s:/C=US/ST=New Jersey/L=Jersey City/O=The USERTRUST Network/CN=USERTrust RSA Certification Authority i:/C=SE/O=AddTrust AB/OU=AddTrust External TTP Network/CN=AddTrust External CA Root --- Server certificate -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIGBjCCBO6gAwIBAgIRAIb7wfIGcH2c3bY0pjwwBTYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAw XzELMAkGA1UEBhMCRlIxDjAMBgNVBAgTBVBhcmlzMQ4wDAYDVQQHEwVQYXJpczEO MAwGA1UEChMFR2FuZGkxIDAeBgNVBAMTF0dhbmRpIFN0YW5kYXJkIFNTTCBDQSAy MB4XDTE1MDUxMjAwMDAwMFoXDTE2MDUxNzIzNTk1OVowXTEhMB8GA1UECxMYRG9t YWluIENvbnRyb2wgVmFsaWRhdGVkMRswGQYDVQQLExJHYW5kaSBTdGFuZGFyZCBT U0wxGzAZBgNVBAMTEmZvcnVtcy5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZzCCAiIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEB BQADggIPADCCAgoCggIBANSWjCMt337JJApXg9M8KnErAMAjh3EQ1AqVaAAesAUV BfOYzC2C1wMEVVaoxp+8Qb4Tha0hrrmk1A25ue8PrxByq/b7IQLIxLu6V1GO7L0o VUqZ/ct7eNEQQ791m/1Z30bGRoaI4Y5DtMIcr0QE0eX7ASITuByEFFuZmY8k/XJn i5a2bKflMASeeZhLEZfayRBKEOkQvULb68oRSlO9gRcHagpTVjzpUeT3m/4K+sus dOV97UlovrKAxHpfbjfDBCoTSqcGGYGMRcRtq2EBtA0SDcqTeMJAmYl8pGoY5kBy b2fL9fgYLCiBex9ruf+agQ9K5GkzDK2D0BpOdr8TQZb8SO8V9DdJI1FcSCwCo/Ha 4AgZKio6PY+rswJBMmQUBhc2Vtv8DDLizDWVMNjy6uul5D17dOAPveTVtosQ8Hy3 9tmf7HcKC+BA+4mESbe/56XP1HzQwQ29hP+TyvSx+XO3Lx8RDIUqOAeOv/ws96bV 7uRSlGLPTYLlk0kBzsb+exKNPLWadifxrZwUUY2vwzKY48GeWgxv9zOI/ztCl/US IBlc4eiSnMvglv4LUmQJO2AqTd1qc6yOKNvYBu3fFLmpLFanEf2+dwxJP/OrCQJW E0pEnBEzC7/hApwCwJQW2SZAZ83R0w6zGTW+2XktAwO4eeqJdewbX8g8IUgldEL1 AgMBAAGjggG9MIIBuTAfBgNVHSMEGDAWgBSzkKfYya9OzWE8n3ytXX9B/Wkw6jAd BgNVHQ4EFgQUpfM5Sh3UVmbXUg8GSk8x6QSOqcQwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQDAgWgMAwG A1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwHQYDVR0lBBYwFAYIKwYBBQUHAwEGCCsGAQUFBwMCMEsGA1Ud IAREMEIwNgYLKwYBBAGyMQECAhowJzAlBggrBgEFBQcCARYZaHR0cHM6Ly9jcHMu dXNlcnRydXN0LmNvbTAIBgZngQwBAgEwQQYDVR0fBDowODA2oDSgMoYwaHR0cDov L2NybC51c2VydHJ1c3QuY29tL0dhbmRpU3RhbmRhcmRTU0xDQTIuY3JsMHMGCCsG AQUFBwEBBGcwZTA8BggrBgEFBQcwAoYwaHR0cDovL2NydC51c2VydHJ1c3QuY29t L0dhbmRpU3RhbmRhcmRTU0xDQTIuY3J0MCUGCCsGAQUFBzABhhlodHRwOi8vb2Nz cC51c2VydHJ1c3QuY29tMDUGA1UdEQQuMCyCEmZvcnVtcy5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZ4IW d3d3LmZvcnVtcy5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFAAOCAQEARB7/lCRL 6SXj6FKMoYIGYyT5RCnLMgcgND2DXNIMvW0rfP4ACt7aQ516+5D3S+hqQAkTdJWE HLIW0yCqxHqXYUR1CaIV6uzVPGCK5faK6eSzyOj9RwpQ5KO47mWcjnoS7pOuzqCE EHm3GPXWLf8TsFSBlwx1Rwsm6El6yJfTm8dTREZfo77XRYg7C3ZuE7BafH2B3e+b TUC447FG+rR/vOdlkVe9ucbSkd10+5tD57SG1LJsZ5KNuuCjPUqWLZCzBI2fNEae xodFtE+PAx6AUHqwTO/GB/Pk26w3fePkB83rAII1YDP78mcxCHhwHMLFiwgcvMaL U1vRqK6quxBljQ== -----END CERTIFICATE----- subject=/OU=Domain Control Validated/OU=Gandi Standard SSL/CN=forums.freebsd.org issuer=/C=FR/ST=Paris/L=Paris/O=Gandi/CN=Gandi Standard SSL CA 2 --- No client certificate CA names sent --- SSL handshake has read 5414 bytes and written 446 bytes --- New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 Server public key is 4096 bit Secure Renegotiation IS supported Compression: NONE Expansion: NONE No ALPN negotiated SSL-Session: Protocol : TLSv1.2 Cipher : ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 Session-ID: 920A76CE1009594F05A3FA25865AB4BC2B7D11AF2ABA771F55545BEB17CBE4D7 Session-ID-ctx: Master-Key: E6E0C529EE8204A422F33E359D62D83F85D7B9BC1F90B97EC9797B0CFBE4255BC5BEF667A3857509B0075CB61D78087B TLS session ticket lifetime hint: 300 (seconds) TLS session ticket: 0000 - 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Start Time: 1435270897 Timeout : 300 (sec) Verify return code: 0 (ok) -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:33:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D2898C951 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 402BD1B12 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5PMX23B084264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:33:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5PMX2Lh084261; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:33:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:33:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: wfdudley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update from 8.4 to 9.3 causes gmirror to disappear -- HELP! In-Reply-To: <1435255862253-6020737.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: References: <1435255862253-6020737.post@n5.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:33:02 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:33:05 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, wfdudley wrote: > I've been running 8.4 STABLE for a while, but decided to try to use > freebsd-update to move to 9.3 > I have a pair of 2TB drives in a gmirror. Works fine. > > I used svn to pull the 8.4 RELEASE source, and built myself an 8.4 RELEASE > system. > > Then, I followed the instructions here: > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/installation.html > > And after the first reboot in to the 9.3 kernel, my gmirror is GONE. > This is ALL MY DATA, and the freebsd-update database > (/var/db/freebsd-update). > > After discovering that the mirror was GONE, I did this: > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=17 > gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad14 That turns off the safety and creates (writes) a new mirror on one drive. Please stop writing to those drives and check your backups. If you are lucky, the data is still present on the second drive. > Which is how I configured the mirror initially (from this > http://www.iprobot.net/linux-tutorial/how-to-setup-sofware-raid-in-freebsd/ > post). The Handbook has a full section on creating mirrors, but that is not what is needed. Instead, the existing mirror just needs to be mounted. The problem might be this: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes-detailed.html#AEN1277 You do not mention what you mean by the mirror being "gone". Was there an error message? It might be as simple as editing /etc/fstab. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:34:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C5D98C980 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00C2C1BCB for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5PMYhwn084642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:34:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5PMYh84084639; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:34:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:34:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: wfdudley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update from 8.4 to 9.3 causes gmirror to disappear -- HELP! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1435255862253-6020737.post@n5.nabble.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:34:43 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:34:45 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, wfdudley wrote: > Update: I reverted to 8.4 RELEASE and my mirror is back. > > So, how the heck do I use freebsd-update to get to 9.3 ? Do I have to > un-mirror my disks? Step 1. Make a full backup somewhere else, not on the mirror. Step 2. Verify the data on that full backup. Only after steps 1 and 2, see https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes-detailed.html#AEN1277 Then watch for error messages and proceed from there. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:37:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604B498CA01 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 410C21D66 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1F1B3F762 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:37:53 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:37:55 -0000 > check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every machine and even curl. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:46:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A96698CBAF for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CF3410AD for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F5AD3F79F; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558C84DE.7000107@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:46:54 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jd1008 CC: FreeBSD Users Subject: Re: latest install DVD References: <558C708B.4020405@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <558C708B.4020405@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:46:59 -0000 > A friend asks if the latest fbsd installation DVD will > also install multiple Destops (like Gnome, Mate, lxde, ...etc) > for him to try out, along with the gui apps like > thunderbird, firefox, smplayer , .... etc. Not really. Assuming I'm reading the package manifests correctly, dvd1.iso appears to have gnome (and its children, like evolution), kde (and its children), firefox, and webkit. The dvd is only 2.5gb and mainly comes with a whole bunch of libraries/languages/utilities, rather than full programs. I'd suggest he look at PC-BSD instead; it's a distribution of freebsd meant for desktops and workstations and includes a lot more of that stuff by default. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 22:59:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7855A98CD89 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58B261588 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31A003F7A4 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558C87D2.5030104@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:59:30 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:59:32 -0000 >> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. > > It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every > machine and even curl. I should point out that I can ping them fine, and if I use curl to connect to port 80 I get the standard: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:52:49 GMT Server: Apache/2.4.12 (FreeBSD) OpenSSL/1.0.1l-freebsd PHP/5.4.40 Location: https://forums.freebsd.org/ Content-Length: 235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 But connecting via 443 just gives me protocol and/or handshake errors. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 23:08:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD5E98CED3 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com (mail-ie0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E7A41A55 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by iebmu5 with SMTP id mu5so64652464ieb.1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DOTxyP3EyWam3lSbQC2TVKu/yehbZlOV8flQB1cMbeQ=; b=LCshm96ZhgVyF2n8P34j4KcDYUgHJqv+gpkhQL2tKf9YZGhaRuPQK/rXBiMcAzDddP mPk7X9Yp21DDBv2TmkFacdFLBqU8HV4PhJBQKu+E0wrhbGhSlYq0Q77xLpnOTzHwOi8h UD341klzzw04DleZ+mpBuHaNjA7vncThrR6WE/SLDFEn8sVMAGD7n3MYlQ9aTsadXSMY qso/Wfl7HFrQgQOOuv+5vfRsliE3fqw5zvs0WAn8ngRSFIiruYl00wYWQYdkUHM22hYj AkRjYNP5gdIY1LWkkzMob1qi6TJbueDkIKzd7jVsy/03QIEQwBlpTkLsg+HQGtcrxmcH wx9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.109.138 with SMTP id hs10mr69814igb.48.1435273681571; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.30.202 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:08:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1435255862253-6020737.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:08:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-update from 8.4 to 9.3 causes gmirror to disappear -- HELP! From: William Dudley To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:08:02 -0000 Warren, Thanks for your reply. I think the problem was that the partition failed the "check the integrity of partition metadata". The symptom was that /dev/mirrors/gm0 existed, but none of the partitions I had defined on there. I reverted to 8.4 RELEASE and for now I have my data back. I will have to back it up to a non-mirrored disk and then go through the freebsd-upgrade process again to get to 9.3. I have temporarily put kern.geom.part.check_integrity="0" in my /boot/loader.conf so that I should have my mirror when i boot into 9.3. Then I need to figure out how to "fix" the partition table (I didn't know there was anything wrong with it) so I can turn the integrity check back on. Man, I hate when my computer scares the crap out of me. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, wfdudley wrote: > > I've been running 8.4 STABLE for a while, but decided to try to use >> freebsd-update to move to 9.3 >> I have a pair of 2TB drives in a gmirror. Works fine. >> >> I used svn to pull the 8.4 RELEASE source, and built myself an 8.4 RELEASE >> system. >> >> Then, I followed the instructions here: >> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/installation.html >> >> And after the first reboot in to the 9.3 kernel, my gmirror is GONE. >> This is ALL MY DATA, and the freebsd-update database >> (/var/db/freebsd-update). >> >> After discovering that the mirror was GONE, I did this: >> >> sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=17 >> gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad14 >> > > That turns off the safety and creates (writes) a new mirror on one drive. > Please stop writing to those drives and check your backups. If you are > lucky, the data is still present on the second drive. > > Which is how I configured the mirror initially (from this >> >> http://www.iprobot.net/linux-tutorial/how-to-setup-sofware-raid-in-freebsd/ >> post). >> > > The Handbook has a full section on creating mirrors, but that is not what > is needed. Instead, the existing mirror just needs to be mounted. > > The problem might be this: > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes-detailed.html#AEN1277 > > You do not mention what you mean by the mirror being "gone". Was there an > error message? It might be as simple as editing /etc/fstab. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 23:17:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F8F98C168 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAE1D1EFE for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77C113F730 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:17:04 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:17:07 -0000 >> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. > > It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every > machine and even curl. Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a windows 8 system or something? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 23:19:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA49398C1AA for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E9B11FB4 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5PNJg0r095770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:19:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5PNJgPI095767; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:19:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:19:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Quartz cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? In-Reply-To: <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> Message-ID: References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:19:42 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:19:45 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Quartz wrote: >>> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. >> >> It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every >> machine and even curl. > > Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new that it > only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a windows 8 system or > something? No. Firefox 38 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE here, works fine. It may be a problem with a router or proxy between you and the forum machine. 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[78.86.112.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lk5sm9681136wic.24.2015.06.25.16.21.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:21:23 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? Message-ID: <20150626002123.17f6b6da@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <558C87D2.5030104@sneakertech.com> References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C87D2.5030104@sneakertech.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:21:29 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:59:30 -0400 Quartz wrote: > >> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. > > > > It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on > > every machine and even curl. > > I should point out that I can ping them fine, and if I use curl to > connect to port 80 I get the standard: > > HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:52:49 GMT > Server: Apache/2.4.12 (FreeBSD) OpenSSL/1.0.1l-freebsd PHP/5.4.40 > Location: https://forums.freebsd.org/ > Content-Length: 235 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > But connecting via 443 just gives me protocol and/or handshake errors. I couldn't connect with Opera, but could with Firefox and Chromium. 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References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:22:19 -0000 On 06/25/2015 05:17 PM, Quartz wrote: >>> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. >> >> It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every >> machine and even curl. > > Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new > that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a > windows 8 system or something? My browser connects to it like ... immediately!!! Your browser should support https. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 23:30:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B2398C44A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F8218C0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6684B3F793 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558C8EF9.4080008@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:30:01 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:30:03 -0000 >> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new >> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a >> windows 8 system or something? > > No. Firefox 38 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE here, works fine. Well, given that 10.0 came out only a year and a half ago, that doesn't really give me any more info. I'm wondering where the cutoff is for "too old" in this case, assuming that's even the issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 23:39:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E6198C630 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x232.google.com (mail-ie0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85F051EE4 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by iebrt9 with SMTP id rt9so65172103ieb.2 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:39:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SzgMDUoon5gGrTvU0T3gz3sWC6cqtyZaMAxT/mawg10=; b=pk1CAPpTht0DvYw+Kgmy3vir4MjMSGx9iXENBNMwLXaaGh/y0tGFTyY4f+GNHLG+z7 Lc/ktluXrHugCbrdrMAuVK6bwftHGoG1SBOXnOQQeqHNZfEZ4o/NhFxJzUDxKFKEzIjv sAodARkuEv3TbLANv8PEgZ6RmzJi4qPjQqqTt9Fq/J2aMNsdX5tjy4DZI4C3fgLKP2SA z80WyfFkTUeOjKKUw1f1ExbEUOn6E39xfkhHqmAnULZB25iDbF9SOD34xT5jDOL1pEHD 6A555AqobOlXLmZ4Myk1dSI8OwTSBCxlM/ZpOUZvf99wmlrg12WBUVYjXygEgX5lurHS oZcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.215.11 with SMTP id hc11mr155418icb.78.1435275591928; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.30.202 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:39:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: how to fix "CORRUPT" partition table in mirrored drive From: William Dudley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:39:52 -0000 I have a mirrored drive: gpart show -l => 63 78156225 ad0 MBR (37G) 63 78156162 1 (null) [active] (37G) 78156225 63 - free - (31k) => 0 78156162 ad0s1 BSD (37G) 0 41943040 1 (null) (20G) 41943040 2097152 2 (null) (1.0G) 44040192 34115970 4 (null) (16G) => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) [CORRUPT] 63 3907029105 1 (null) [active] (1.8T) => 0 3907029105 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) 0 335544320 4 (null) (160G) 335544320 209715200 5 (null) (100G) 545259520 209715200 6 (null) (100G) 754974720 3152054385 7 (null) (1.5T) I tried to fix the corrupt partition table like this: gpart recover mirror/gm0 gpart: recovering 'mirror/gm0' failed: Function not implemented So how do I fix the corrupt partition table? Can I un-mirror the two drives and then do the gpart recover and then re-mirror them? A google search of the above error message turns up nothing at all relevant. Thanks, Bill Dudley From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 23:47:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2683D98C7AB for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE97F11CD for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5PNlmYw002950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:47:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5PNlmgE002947; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:47:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:47:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Quartz cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? In-Reply-To: <558C8EF9.4080008@sneakertech.com> Message-ID: References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> <558C8EF9.4080008@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:47:48 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:47:51 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Quartz wrote: >>> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new >>> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a >>> windows 8 system or something? >> >> No. Firefox 38 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE here, works fine. > > Well, given that 10.0 came out only a year and a half ago, that doesn't > really give me any more info. I'm wondering where the cutoff is for "too old" > in this case, assuming that's even the issue. It is the browser, not the operating system. Unless you have an unpatched openSSL, maybe. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 25 23:57:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B999F98CB2C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9E911D96 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5PNvIfw005639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5PNvIC2005636; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: William Dudley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to fix "CORRUPT" partition table in mirrored drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:18 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:57:21 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, William Dudley wrote: > I have a mirrored drive: > > gpart show -l > => 63 78156225 ad0 MBR (37G) > 63 78156162 1 (null) [active] (37G) > 78156225 63 - free - (31k) > > => 0 78156162 ad0s1 BSD (37G) > 0 41943040 1 (null) (20G) > 41943040 2097152 2 (null) (1.0G) > 44040192 34115970 4 (null) (16G) > > => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) [CORRUPT] > 63 3907029105 1 (null) [active] (1.8T) > > => 0 3907029105 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) > 0 335544320 4 (null) (160G) > 335544320 209715200 5 (null) (100G) > 545259520 209715200 6 (null) (100G) > 754974720 3152054385 7 (null) (1.5T) > > I tried to fix the corrupt partition table like this: > > gpart recover mirror/gm0 > gpart: recovering 'mirror/gm0' failed: Function not implemented > > So how do I fix the corrupt partition table? Can I un-mirror the two drives > and then do the gpart recover and then re-mirror them? gpart recover only works with some partitioning schemes. GPT has a backup copy of the partition table that can be used to recover the primary one. MBR and BSD partitioning schemes do not have redundant metadata for recover to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 00:04:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FCA98CCEE for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x235.google.com (mail-ig0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CD8610E8 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by igblr2 with SMTP id lr2so3238504igb.0 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:04:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=k7TR6NWQBZN/1TGmttXa54qKSGVtqvZPw+YYhCHyShg=; b=W9Tv3VoDwiOHs6LZZr14bGii+I15oh8eZC8LZItgF9sKMTsFLONEB0P7b9Hm7ZX/L9 8d39vFYMvFWtF7OjczuYJIBpKYh/oXmtFhN3990c+geKqq6T0WsiqIFSqBuGMw1VQUUW xjoOs6cgN1Nsg6vAWynRmsFsLIFaWY9K2w8S+Myz4eKnXLZroNoHlIEZozwz4AwjQnBK egTiOb1d1Unqbmd9p1GU4yUFEvp0/kddCl+NElj2+S6rLCojyqbDrlZGSXoWTDBCvvcG A9pa3VgPYePIUcB9+pHxyOn+QEJVRiUmviHWwoA8InV04UhampPNB/apJi8x0lHN6lEg KXqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.109.138 with SMTP id hs10mr299762igb.48.1435277080437; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.30.202 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:04:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:04:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to fix "CORRUPT" partition table in mirrored drive From: William Dudley To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:04:41 -0000 Warren, Again, thanks for the reply. Does the fact that gpart show -l reports this: => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) [CORRUPT] Mean that I'm screwed and must copy all the data to a new drive and create the mirror anew? Can I remove the second drive from the mirror and still have the data on it accessible? the gmirror man page doesn't say what the disks that are removed from the mirror "look like", i.e. are they in some wierd format or can they be read like a normal disk. Thanks, Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, William Dudley wrote: > > I have a mirrored drive: >> >> gpart show -l >> => 63 78156225 ad0 MBR (37G) >> 63 78156162 1 (null) [active] (37G) >> 78156225 63 - free - (31k) >> >> => 0 78156162 ad0s1 BSD (37G) >> 0 41943040 1 (null) (20G) >> 41943040 2097152 2 (null) (1.0G) >> 44040192 34115970 4 (null) (16G) >> >> => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) [CORRUPT] >> 63 3907029105 1 (null) [active] (1.8T) >> >> => 0 3907029105 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) >> 0 335544320 4 (null) (160G) >> 335544320 209715200 5 (null) (100G) >> 545259520 209715200 6 (null) (100G) >> 754974720 3152054385 7 (null) (1.5T) >> >> I tried to fix the corrupt partition table like this: >> >> gpart recover mirror/gm0 >> gpart: recovering 'mirror/gm0' failed: Function not implemented >> >> So how do I fix the corrupt partition table? Can I un-mirror the two >> drives >> and then do the gpart recover and then re-mirror them? >> > > gpart recover only works with some partitioning schemes. GPT has a backup > copy of the partition table that can be used to recover the primary one. > MBR and BSD partitioning schemes do not have redundant metadata for recover > to use. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 00:09:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156AA98CD71 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7E39122B for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 304963F770 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558C981E.4090107@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:09:02 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> <558C8EF9.4080008@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:09:10 -0000 >>>> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new >>>> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a >>>> windows 8 system or something? >>> >>> No. Firefox 38 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE here, works fine. >> >> Well, given that 10.0 came out only a year and a half ago, that >> doesn't really give me any more info. I'm wondering where the cutoff >> is for "too old" in this case, assuming that's even the issue. > > It is the browser, not the operating system. Unless you have an > unpatched openSSL, maybe. OK, where does curl fit into that then? Presumably all the versions I have access to are too old I guess. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 00:16:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13F098CEE0 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B3541976 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wam@hiwaay.net) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-233.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t5Q0Gehs005296 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:16:41 -0500 Message-ID: <558C99E8.9000807@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:22:55 -0453 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:16:43 -0000 On 06/25/15 18:23, Quartz wrote: >>> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. >> >> It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every >> machine and even curl. > > Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new > that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a > windows 8 system or something? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Why would freebsd.org mangle its website so it only worked w/ Windoze ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 00:30:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE60898D07F for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77F301DF5 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jungleboogie0@gmail.com) Received: by iecvh10 with SMTP id vh10so65748925iec.3 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:30:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=bR9If9VwX4r5vdWL1kmhV5d4p+YsSvTFMJOI4Qe89vY=; b=w1HwtdwDBFT7v8rMLoIf2I31IH6tFFqSG+VWusJuUdiebM+2UhzSVw7RCo+cADjUKe 0ERoL6Bb6443l5GHvfj0mljK3rDWT4gqqkltAJTF16eYec+H1bGZaHEtu0xISvRCr2hK /yH8v0+ZqXtSIvKnconD7JkXZJYv0TeHCGJjL9SrEdE67/BBDWcJoM5JYRh4Ezy6hIEM bE3JUs9yNnK6okkv3Ne1IcLVjJ5hulM9RvLxDw77M1FK0s8NgbpC3q27L+snvl0+/ie+ u2oQRVGTMB20rMGOMImWn7UMcmNMXBVF3PFcG9xhpWvEjKDZqunDlC73lSTGFDMGLJt0 PKcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.129.2 with SMTP id hg2mr342600icc.58.1435278634890; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.74.130 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.74.130 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:30:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <558C981E.4090107@sneakertech.com> References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> <558C8EF9.4080008@sneakertech.com> <558C981E.4090107@sneakertech.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:30:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? From: jungle Boogie To: Quartz Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:30:35 -0000 On Jun 25, 2015 5:09 PM, "Quartz" >> >> >> It is the browser, not the operating system. Unless you have an >> unpatched openSSL, maybe. > > > OK, where does curl fit into that then? Presumably all the versions I have access to are too old I guess. > > What's your version of curl? > >Mc > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 00:43:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D0F98D2B7 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E40281558 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5Q0hSVp017019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:43:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5Q0hSMn017016; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:43:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:43:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: William Dudley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to fix "CORRUPT" partition table in mirrored drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:43:31 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, William Dudley wrote: > Warren, > Again, thanks for the reply.  Does the fact that gpart show -l reports this: > > =>        63  3907029104  mirror/gm0  MBR  (1.8T) [CORRUPT] > > Mean that I'm screwed and must copy all the data to a new drive and > create the mirror anew? Possibly. Years back, the Handbook showed the quick but wrong way to create a mirror out of an existing disk with a filesystem on it. The new integrity check does not like that, because the last block of a partition was reused. Here, if you add up the lengths of the partitions on gm0s1, you'll find that it is one block longer than the size of gm0. See the "4" versus "5" in the last digit of the sizes of gm0 and gm0s1? The contents of a partition cannot be larger than the partition itself. > =>        63  3907029104  mirror/gm0  MBR  (1.8T) [CORRUPT] ^^^^^^^^^^ > > =>         0  3907029105  mirror/gm0s1  BSD  (1.8T) ^^^^^^^^^^ That could be fixed by shrinking the last partition by one block, but shrinking it will not resize the UFS filesystem on it, and possibly leave it unusable. If it were me, I'd back everything up, then follow the new procedures in the Handbook to create the mirror correctly. Those procedures were extensively tested. (Ask me how I know.) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 01:01:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597998D4F1 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0AC41CAD for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t5Q11i7j021468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t5Q11i8c021465; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Quartz cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? In-Reply-To: <558C981E.4090107@sneakertech.com> Message-ID: References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> <558C8EF9.4080008@sneakertech.com> <558C981E.4090107@sneakertech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:44 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:01:47 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Quartz wrote: >>>>> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new >>>>> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a >>>>> windows 8 system or something? >>>> >>>> No. Firefox 38 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE here, works fine. >>> >>> Well, given that 10.0 came out only a year and a half ago, that >>> doesn't really give me any more info. I'm wondering where the cutoff >>> is for "too old" in this case, assuming that's even the issue. >> >> It is the browser, not the operating system. Unless you have an >> unpatched openSSL, maybe. > > OK, where does curl fit into that then? Presumably all the versions I have > access to are too old I guess. There was a problem curl linking to both the base and ports version of openssl not too long ago, and consequently breaking other applications. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 01:14:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D23A98D67B for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 988371018 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stoa@gmx.us) Received: from puffyzz.attlocal.net ([24.116.197.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MXZw6-1ZcaNO0lBG-00WZHJ for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:14:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:14:07 -0500 From: Dutch Ingraham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? 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Mahaffey III wrote: > On 06/25/15 18:23, Quartz wrote: > >>>check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. > >> > >>It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every > >>machine and even curl. > > > >Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new that > >it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a windows 8 > >system or something? > > For the record, I'm using the xombrero browser, v. 1.6.4, with no whitelisting for the FreeBSD forums (which means no cookies, no javascript, no plugins), and my latest certificate update was June 7, and I'm not having any trouble accessing the site. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 02:21:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDF098DF0A for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 650701A18 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by igcsj18 with SMTP id sj18so22430675igc.1 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:21:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mdrz5sLUn73CH0o5dmV40Np3iZCm6ksa39EwtUGB99w=; b=ENPNjrVU1huaS06ggHBMbBfJYTGLTt12MStEOxSZqdN9hyo2p/m4m/fO92gHnUocM7 Q80o8S2bpq0xmSxbltP7fjE6tHKmeB73RKgQaKG65hn6eL6sOA6d74kVVKdkW0DJu64H FN/UIOfueSwBnS1Hv1RP5RbRqPRLO6WDhaiRfk+VPmnMVAsRFiMlSJQAjv9U5FX75dmE cHDEAf6pS0yA3uvm+qXeEUo7t0Ssgva9NmAopRe1CdIyD0/EmT3ZueElIkitzE6B2BSY +8UtT0VU0G0G/ww3E2pozNKA9UvuFKFBKAvErgQp8AjGTprxeuwYirZmgfmMk8VKzn6s 6c7w== X-Received: by 10.107.138.201 with SMTP id c70mr64097294ioj.24.1435285309812; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-73-3-70-211.hsd1.ut.comcast.net. [73.3.70.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p196sm20864088iop.15.2015.06.25.19.21.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558CB730.9030205@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:21:36 -0600 From: jd1008 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> <558C99E8.9000807@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <558C99E8.9000807@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:21:50 -0000 On 06/25/2015 06:15 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 06/25/15 18:23, Quartz wrote: >>>> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. >>> >>> It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every >>> machine and even curl. >> >> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new >> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a >> windows 8 system or something? >> > Why would freebsd.org mangle its website so it only worked w/ Windoze ? > They did not! I just used Linux to access it with Firefox. No problems!! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 02:30:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4077D98DF7C for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECBC11C93 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-234.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8827024CFF; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 04:30:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t5Q2Ujx8002272; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 04:30:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 04:30:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Cc: Quartz , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? Message-Id: <20150626043045.7769cafa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:30:55 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:31:53 -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > mc ( Midnight Commander ) may be useful in a server with its two panes . This excellent tool (!) can be used both directly on the server, as well as connected _to_ the server. But it does not require GUI - it simply runs in a terminal (regular text mode, virtual terminal on X, through SSH, and so on). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 03:58:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CC398CDE1 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7BA14B2 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp14-2-7-211.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.7.211]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 26 Jun 2015 13:28:49 +0930 Message-ID: <558CCDF4.2080100@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:28:44 +0930 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Quartz , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <20150625014331.GB51828@neutralgood.org> <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> In-Reply-To: <558BC62F.5090805@sneakertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:58:58 -0000 On 25/06/2015 18:43, Quartz wrote: > >> Remember the X server runs on the box that you >> sit at that has the monitor connected to it, not the remote server. > > Oh that's right, I always forget X can do that. Good tip. > > Either way though, I'm still curious what's out there for programs. PC-BSD has created some gui software that they add to their software install which can also be installed from ports onto any freebsd system. The utilities in sysutils/pcbsd-utils-qt5 include Disk Manager, Warden, Control Panel, Firewall Manager, Life Preserver Also Lumina is a new lightweight desktop, it's filemanager incorporates support for zfs, easy access to snapshots of a file etc. Lumina is available in x11/lumina You can look over the PC-BSD docs to see features and screenshots http://download.pcbsd.org/iso/10.1-RELEASE/amd64/docs/html/pcbsd.html -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 07:40:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0661598CB67 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 07:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92B831165 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 07:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: by wgqq4 with SMTP id q4so81246557wgq.1 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:40:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=N2eaQ0GxqfR2BvdbfYQzPryRxDTOKDdGSPkGvDN3NSM=; b=dO6jsF1sQE1gIR7NVjvrWwctMMAVsvh+l2FfniVJmIqzX9TLFF6KrFyrc11dgQlAac o4wUOCSe/YggOw1gtlZeg3FkYa4uxTnUXl6K0aHMCuFBVMQw6XGTkk4wVM1Rablpm4B5 jHfX3EzNPPgAnDOK2eXAul3e3r79Mna/z0djixAJJvRs7yWdiU+9i4e+ynKSIuMsd0fF 3+lUy8u4gCQS1LDPSz8HFcFBpYgP1xCAVvpoDrFOTHTTAXUxMy4IGaD/f8mdgTpYvvwa NWnxW3hQTgb7vRm03VmB2o7FDKIc6REIzVUo85QpMlZWNfh59jWacb2Oc/O+TVjfxOtJ gIlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.97 with SMTP id hr1mr498596wjb.95.1435304428958; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.73.5 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:40:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <558C5F23.2070001@gmail.com> References: <558B3F60.7060809@sneakertech.com> <558B41A3.1050506@gmail.com> <558B45C1.3040101@sneakertech.com> <558B46D4.90505@gmail.com> <20150625065727.e728118a09a939f408ec8526@sohara.org> <558C4756.1030805@gmail.com> <20150625202835.62d37aed@gumby.homeunix.com> <558C5F23.2070001@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:40:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any utils worth installing a GUI on a server for? From: krad To: jd1008 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 07:40:31 -0000 zfsonlin is a kernel module these days so the speed differences in theory shouldnt be great. However I'm not sure what the reality is these days as the project isnt quite as mature as freebsd's yet On 25 June 2015 at 21:05, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 06/25/2015 01:28 PM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:24:22 -0600 >> jd1008 wrote: >> >> I have not used Sun's ZFS, so was not familiar with it. >>> Found an interesting evaluation of it at >>> http://www.zfsbuild.com/2010/05/26/zfs-raid-levels/ >>> >> FWIW ZFS has been a mainstream FreeBSD feature for some time now. It's >> licence allowed the SUN code to run in the FreeBSD kernel whereas >> Linux had to recreate it, or adapt the original version to run in >> userland. >> > Yes - the 'fuse' land. > I would love to see io performance differences between the > FreeBSD implementation vs the linux implementation. > I gamble that running zfs in the kernel might provide faster i/o > but not sure how much faster. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 09:01:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4978798C7E5 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) Received: from nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.94]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F04861D27 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6724@bellsouth.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s2048; t=1435309176; bh=6bzHDEORO6+4DakJngYihcyP8P3UkoG5aCaaSzZvARU=; h=Date:From:To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=TrxPHC0RgBl/uUcqPNLGYltKu2Ua+F88DdJOucaE0Y6YJonRlunDqR/zK9NKTepF/WdD43XKg/eTISxQVmgQCYcCMdEFVRCWEzCgvqTqPE8rTwcq3ETOOWI5pcrP2RWop1YRj35jUi0Fibxfa0njI7pXBczjMFDQdKUmNx3uqNTmWDnI2BLymdAVZgVWEQw/xbOs/3rYP6W1egE6wPUA4nrCdifVVNywuIooYKZpFFN4Um60hn2SR/3fY6CIS4iJsTU2sqqWfKfNJPYREgrqggJUIGvtKRq5wXzlPKjkwX7bZbXYerKCmAXDDZ3aGDX4BouRcGMuYWPAcFvIVs+RcA== Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2015 08:59:36 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.100] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2015 08:59:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2015 08:59:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 733165.387.bm@smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <733165.387.bm@smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: BtMVlHkVM1ng0nrCTmhxW8.LUgjoT.x44fKg.II9uEHF655 gUoJyHii5qFEp_NxzaZacwyF9jD.4dzcXV3KqFuxApCcSYmg8P945UiVdhpN O_SmAZyacyl6w0X7c9nDNxT7FrRUIdj5bAklIEt0t_f0FPn0QgU84juDiSCq W5ZBTPCk71AXz8nNBPKdmsXosRqH8hFTrZ_NwBOhiG0zojUfd00XQ6FfcSgA Q5MCJUawgG3YQVZPOY5Nqig.a3XSgAVMFeceM0YamVWpu9wlUe.Hbw22zfx7 zLBriiyPm3mPhWx72F7Jgg4si7BFSn81.c46Pzj3NAvQIGso7qVNWoYcvVod 1FxVT9X70x4ADZg4aJ8eooWuXkjOt2S4_qqkDNpb_ecRrpVsWmIAuQgL1Dal S2B6oFb9dlETl4ND6YYs6caLS0Juf6gTLnZxzPl67Hko8ern3awozTB647yF oQ69rNJ5JNFccC3eeOUQ7JVlUYsM_rOW9LpmNkFgoHr2iE7dkmOQ5quz9fy7 Z6fsrfhWfqR4p_hRHAUOXszPD0aVYKxGNm7sm2lOEYYwCot_WvKBoVRBCeDM - X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:58:44 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86oak6p8w9.fsf@bsdstb.Belkin> <833145.91368.bm@smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <558C6939.3070700@bluerosetech.com> Subject: Re: getting ports updated on an older FreeBSD (5.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:01:45 -0000 On 2015-06-24 03:10, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I was thinking about the possibility of building/upgrading the base > FreeBSD from source by steps, such as 5.1 -> final 6-stable -> final > 8-stable -> 10.1 or possibly FreeBSD-current. Mel Pilgrim responded: > The introduction of KSE happened in 5.x and IIRC a related ABI break starting > with 5.4 means the only upgrade path from prior versions is a full reinstall > because you can't cross-run kernel and userland. I guess then, upgrading FreeBSD from source would require building and installing on a new partition, in this case a new, bigger, hard drive. There would be the logistic matter of how and where to switch from MBR to GPT. I don't recognize the acronym KSE, didn't know about that particular ABI break in 5.4. Back then, with FreeBSD <= 5.x, or maybe it was <= 4.x, the boot floppy always hung probing for devices, was never able to boot. I believe my first installation of FreeBSD was 7.x, probably 7.0. I could run Linux (Slackware), but FreeBSD could only run in safe mode, possibly because of a bug in the hard drive hardware. That hard drive subsequently went all the way bad. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 13:35:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8133E98CA67 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04A191985 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id t5QDCSqZ093281; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:12:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:12:27 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warren Block cc: Quartz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20150626224716.J14881@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:35:39 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 577, Issue 5, Message: 20 On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Quartz wrote: > > >>>>> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new > >>>>> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a > >>>>> windows 8 system or something? > >>>> > >>>> No. Firefox 38 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE here, works fine. > >>> > >>> Well, given that 10.0 came out only a year and a half ago, that > >>> doesn't really give me any more info. I'm wondering where the cutoff > >>> is for "too old" in this case, assuming that's even the issue. > >> > >> It is the browser, not the operating system. Unless you have an > >> unpatched openSSL, maybe. > > > > OK, where does curl fit into that then? Presumably all the versions I have > > access to are too old I guess. > > There was a problem curl linking to both the base and ports version of > openssl not too long ago, and consequently breaking other applications. Sorry, been away, just catching up a bit .. This seems likely because Quartz' curl (or the way it's setup) doesn't support TLS 1.1 or 1.2 for https connections, which forums.freebsd.org now requires, to gain higher security rankings and favour from google. There was a long and probably considered off-topic thread during May on freebsd-security@ about it, in which I was silly enough to participate because my (ok, ancient) SeaMonkey can no longer connect to the forums. Skim thread 'Forums.FreeBSD.org - SSL Issue?' for the gory details: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2015-May/008350.html cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 14:50:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BBE98C6E1 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50F71213 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 14F6DCB8C9A; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:49:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:49:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35572.128.135.70.2.1435330195.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <558CB730.9030205@gmail.com> References: <558C7C37.6060505@sneakertech.com> <558C82C1.103@sneakertech.com> <558C8BF0.4050905@sneakertech.com> <558C99E8.9000807@hiwaay.net> <558CB730.9030205@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:49:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "jd1008" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:50:02 -0000 On Thu, June 25, 2015 9:21 pm, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 06/25/2015 06:15 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 06/25/15 18:23, Quartz wrote: >>>>> check your OS and browser version, they recently updated SSL. >>>> >>>> It doesn't matter what OS or browser I'm using, this happens on every >>>> machine and even curl. >>> >>> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new >>> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a >>> windows 8 system or something? >>> >> Why would freebsd.org mangle its website so it only worked w/ Windoze ? >> > They did not! > I just used Linux to access it with Firefox. > No problems!! > Indeed. I can see it from FreeBSD (Firefox and midori) from macintosh (vivaldi browser). It is interesting how some people mind works: they never assume wrong on their own side... Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 14:58:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2F998C83A for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304D818A8 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8A63CCB8C99; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:58:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:58:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <20908.128.135.70.2.1435330728.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:58:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: how to fix "CORRUPT" partition table in mirrored drive From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "William Dudley" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:58:49 -0000 On Thu, June 25, 2015 7:04 pm, William Dudley wrote: > Warren, > > Again, thanks for the reply. Does the fact that gpart show -l reports > this: > > => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) [CORRUPT] > > Mean that I'm screwed and must copy all the data to a new drive and > create the mirror anew? > > Can I remove the second drive from the mirror and still have the data on > it > accessible? > the gmirror man page doesn't say what the disks that are removed from the > mirror "look like", > i.e. are they in some wierd format or can they be read like a normal disk. > > Thanks, > Bill Dudley > > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. I wouldn't say that this statement is strictly speaking correct. Valeri > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, William Dudley wrote: >> >> I have a mirrored drive: >>> >>> gpart show -l >>> => 63 78156225 ad0 MBR (37G) >>> 63 78156162 1 (null) [active] (37G) >>> 78156225 63 - free - (31k) >>> >>> => 0 78156162 ad0s1 BSD (37G) >>> 0 41943040 1 (null) (20G) >>> 41943040 2097152 2 (null) (1.0G) >>> 44040192 34115970 4 (null) (16G) >>> >>> => 63 3907029104 mirror/gm0 MBR (1.8T) [CORRUPT] >>> 63 3907029105 1 (null) [active] (1.8T) >>> >>> => 0 3907029105 mirror/gm0s1 BSD (1.8T) >>> 0 335544320 4 (null) (160G) >>> 335544320 209715200 5 (null) (100G) >>> 545259520 209715200 6 (null) (100G) >>> 754974720 3152054385 7 (null) (1.5T) >>> >>> I tried to fix the corrupt partition table like this: >>> >>> gpart recover mirror/gm0 >>> gpart: recovering 'mirror/gm0' failed: Function not implemented >>> >>> So how do I fix the corrupt partition table? Can I un-mirror the two >>> drives >>> and then do the gpart recover and then re-mirror them? >>> >> >> gpart recover only works with some partitioning schemes. GPT has a >> backup >> copy of the partition table that can be used to recover the primary one. >> MBR and BSD partitioning schemes do not have redundant metadata for >> recover >> to use. >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 26 22:59:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA0598C7D9 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from douhisi.pair.com (douhisi.pair.com [209.68.5.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E97761609 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from [10.2.2.1] (pool-173-48-121-235.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.121.235]) by douhisi.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F37CF3F6ED; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <558DD93B.4030800@sneakertech.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:59:07 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there something wrong with forums.freebsd.org? References: <20150626224716.J14881@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20150626224716.J14881@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:59:10 -0000 > This seems likely because Quartz' curl (or the way it's setup) doesn't > support TLS 1.1 or 1.2 for https connections, which forums.freebsd.org > now requires, Thank you! This is the info I was looking for. I think this explains it. Both curls and the Safari I was testing with are a couple years old and look to be versions just before the ones that support the newer TLSs. It never occurred to me that they wouldn't have support given that even 1.2 came out back in '08, but whatever. All the versions of IE I tried and the older FirefoxESR all technically support 1.1/1.2, but it's turned it off by default so you have to manually enable it (wtf?). Thanks again for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 27 03:56:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4253198E6C9; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 03:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 524AC151C; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 03:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t5R3sYsw048415; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 05:54:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <558E1E7A.5000105@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 05:54:34 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vermaden , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Working and Supported SCSI Controller References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 03:56:09 -0000 On 2012-05-24 01:02, vermaden wrote: > Hi, > > as HARDWARE NOTES are next to useless: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241164.html > > What *working* PCI/PCI-X SCSI controller do You guys suggest? > > Requirements: PCI/PCI-X Ultra160 or Ultra320 with one or more 68-pin internal connector > > Thanks in advance for Your suggestions, > vermaden Adaptech 2940 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 27 04:05:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE5198E828 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 04:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41EB51A6D for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 04:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6121C213D4 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:05:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=zDm980qeD9DmxKI 6+T4HkJX99Us=; b=sQ5J+P/aiFXHUm5LeQl/AioNu9gE4G4q/zNaTkQtme/yuip l4UlEHs6VJphvbLpvXxo6JRjsd5y6lrNQRQcasQ7llAU5lbMDcTnSpXWNL55vY/I 9IMC4LAQ2MCWJDVmNYxlDVuye8mVPUUsBqkJiwukWoWdp6VBJKKYk2HNtPQk= X-Sasl-enc: AbJiRct6BFsUzYtmfRQcFk0X2B4Ev+cEXm75C9pMeATh 1435377946 Received: from [10.79.22.142] (unknown [166.175.186.137]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C275B680197; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Working and Supported SCSI Controller From: Josh Paetzel X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) In-Reply-To: <558E1E7A.5000105@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:05:42 -0500 Cc: vermaden , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <558E1E7A.5000105@bananmonarki.se> To: Bernt Hansson X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 04:05:49 -0000 An adaptec 2940 isn't a U160 controller. The adaptec 19160/29160/39160 are, but I haven't used them since FreeBSD 4.x= . No idea if they still work. Thanks, Josh Paetzel > On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >=20 >> On 2012-05-24 01:02, vermaden wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> as HARDWARE NOTES are next to useless: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241164.html= >>=20 >> What *working* PCI/PCI-X SCSI controller do You guys suggest? >>=20 >> Requirements: PCI/PCI-X Ultra160 or Ultra320 with one or more 68-pin inte= rnal connector >>=20 >> Thanks in advance for Your suggestions, >> vermaden > Adaptech 2940 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 27 06:22:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453C598CA85 for ; 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Sat, 27 Jun 2015 04:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.local ([197.86.185.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ma15sm2555343wic.20.2015.06.27.04.16.55 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Jun 2015 04:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: David Naylor From: David Naylor To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Simplifying lang/pypy(3) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:16:53 +0200 Message-ID: <1778458.ppUHDKsiRe@dragon.local> Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE-p10; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart7680121.kNJ7OFmOiK"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 11:17:02 -0000 --nextPart7680121.kNJ7OFmOiK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, lang/pypy was originally set up to achieve: * building of multiple pypy instances based on different setting (i.e. with or without jit, sandboxing, etc). The port user could define any permutation she desires. * Install in a directory layout more similar to lang/python (i.e. libraries in lib/, include files in include/). I plan to simplify the port by removing the multi-instance support and using the default directory layout of the port. This will fix issues with virtualenv and reduce the learning curve of using/maintaining the port. To this end does anyone: a) use the multi-instance support? b) depend on the current directory layout? Based on feedback I will adapt my plans to simplify. Regards --nextPart7680121.kNJ7OFmOiK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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No idea if they still work. > > Thanks, > > We have 19160 and 2940UW on freebsd 8.X On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> On 2012-05-24 01:02, vermaden wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> as HARDWARE NOTES are next to useless: >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241164.html >>> >>> What *working* PCI/PCI-X SCSI controller do You guys suggest? >>> >>> Requirements: PCI/PCI-X Ultra160 or Ultra320 with one or more 68-pin internal connector >>> >>> Thanks in advance for Your suggestions, >>> vermaden >> Adaptech 2940 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 27 14:02:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD78298E75E for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1011636 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from [75.187.32.8] ([75.187.32.8:56336] helo=raspberrypi.bildanet.com) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 1A/BE-25175-FBCAE855; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:01:36 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.53] (helo=baho-utot.bildanet.com) by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8qfn-0003cg-Ga for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:01:35 -0400 Message-ID: <558EACBA.8050908@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:01:30 -0400 From: Baho Utot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: AMD Radeon 290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:02:49 -0000 I am looking to upgrade my graphics card from a Radeon HD6770 to an AMD 290. This work station dual boots FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: Wed May 13 06:54:13 UTC 2015 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 and win7. This will be for email, web browsing etc, no 3D rendering required. I have looked at https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics and it states that the card is not supported. Is any one currently using an AMD R9 series graphics card? If so can you give my some feedback on upgrading to an AMD R9? What works/doesn't work etc Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 27 14:30:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C1C98EB79; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B706D1577; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) X-Interia-R: Interia X-Interia-R-IP: 195.69.80.4 X-Interia-R-Helo: Received: from w530.local (unknown [195.69.80.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <558EB032.1020100@interia.pl> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:16:18 +0200 From: vermaden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson , Josh Paetzel CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Working and Supported SCSI Controller References: <558E1E7A.5000105@bananmonarki.se> <558EA499.7080207@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <558EA499.7080207@bananmonarki.se> X-Interia-Antivirus: OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1435414521; bh=6cx099TgbbEV4NvtRqR9QYHbx6Zowj9J2/yadh1LP60=; h=X-Interia-R:X-Interia-R-IP:X-Interia-R-Helo:Message-ID:Date:From: User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:X-Interia-Antivirus; b=qNNuGt7qL++x48viHqNgG3LXDRjk6pQ0l6USEX7csqD4Q0UNmaPcgvNYCePw8vqvy pYXBdSE+F25XWrUSZeapPZ+4RqzSN/e1ZKeqrF7ksROind92TNYJcJ0PpdX9Gq2JXf MCG6U6Kbc5mDZeXSlYmhzGNexoaWN4BwWZMrqNSI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:30:51 -0000 Hi. More then 3 years for a reply ... better late then never tho ;) I do not own that LTO3 tape drive any more ... and I do not even own that motherboard to which I needed that SCSI conreoller ;) Regards, vermaden On 06/27/2015 15:26, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2015-06-27 06:05, Josh Paetzel wrote: >> An adaptec 2940 isn't a U160 controller. >> >> The adaptec 19160/29160/39160 are, but I haven't used them since >> FreeBSD 4.x. No idea if they still work. >> >> Thanks, >> >> We have 19160 and 2940UW on freebsd 8.X > > On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> On 2012-05-24 01:02, vermaden wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> as HARDWARE NOTES are next to useless: >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241164.html >>>> >>>> >>>> What *working* PCI/PCI-X SCSI controller do You guys suggest? >>>> >>>> Requirements: PCI/PCI-X Ultra160 or Ultra320 with one or more >>>> 68-pin internal connector >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for Your suggestions, >>>> vermaden >>> Adaptech 2940 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 27 19:08:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF87198E2A4; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC7CC1278; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id t5RJ8AA2066773; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:08:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <558EF49A.5070901@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:08:10 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vermaden , Josh Paetzel CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Working and Supported SCSI Controller References: <558E1E7A.5000105@bananmonarki.se> <558EA499.7080207@bananmonarki.se> <558EB032.1020100@interia.pl> In-Reply-To: <558EB032.1020100@interia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:08:27 -0000 On 2015-06-27 16:16, vermaden wrote: > Hi. > > More then 3 years for a reply ... better late then never tho ;) > Do not know what future you live in... but nonte less it is 2015 where i live. > I do not own that LTO3 tape drive any more ... and I do not even own > that motherboard to which I needed that SCSI conreoller ;) > > Regards, > vermaden > > > > On 06/27/2015 15:26, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2015-06-27 06:05, Josh Paetzel wrote: >>> An adaptec 2940 isn't a U160 controller. >>> >>> The adaptec 19160/29160/39160 are, but I haven't used them since >>> FreeBSD 4.x. No idea if they still work. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> We have 19160 and 2940UW on freebsd 8.X >> >> On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>>> On 2012-05-24 01:02, vermaden wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> as HARDWARE NOTES are next to useless: >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/241164.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What *working* PCI/PCI-X SCSI controller do You guys suggest? >>>>> >>>>> Requirements: PCI/PCI-X Ultra160 or Ultra320 with one or more >>>>> 68-pin internal connector >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for Your suggestions, >>>>> vermaden >>>> Adaptech 2940 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> > >